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[static crackling]
[melancholic rock music]
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- [Narrator] The space between the dials,
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the speaking valves, the
fields of sonic elation.
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These were your homage.
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The mutant, the dross of our universe,
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you put them together,
this was your offering.
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The unsung, broken but still smiling
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discarded toys of our collective pasts.
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It is a hard world for little things.
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Polish is to be despised.
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In a glaring, shiny world,
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the recesses, the
unloved and the cast off.
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This is your dominion.
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This is Sparklehorse.
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[static crackling]
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["Sad and Beautiful
World" by Sparklehorse]
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["Sad and Beautiful World"
by Sparklehorse continues]
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["Sad and Beautiful World"
by Sparklehorse continues]
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"Sometimes I get so sad"
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["Sad and Beautiful World"
by Sparklehorse continues]
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"Sometimes you just make me mad"
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"It's a sad and beautiful world"
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["Sad and Beautiful World"
by Sparklehorse continues]
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"It's a sad and beautiful world"
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["Sad and Beautiful World"
by Sparklehorse continues]
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[ominous booming]
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[cars whooshing]
[engines revving]
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- I like the tracks
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when you can almost barely hear his voice,
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but a feeling comes through,
["Maxine" by Sparklehorse]
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and the feeling is so tender,
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["Maxine" by Sparklehorse]
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and in a way sad,
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but sad beauty.
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- You know, the reason I
think that his music appeals
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to so many people is 'cause
it's just so genuine.
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It's just really feels like
it's coming from inside of him.
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It's completely honest.
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It's almost confessional.
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- It has that quality to it.
["Maxine" by Sparklehorse]
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Not just that it sounds
sort of scratchy and old,
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but that it's sort of
caught in two worlds,
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and at times it's more in the present
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and at times it's sort of stuck
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in its own sort of temporal vortex.
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- You know, he was a man that lived.
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And he had a darkness to him,
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and I don't mean that in a bad way,
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but he did struggle with his own demons.
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And I can hear that in his music.
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I can hear that in the
awkward, creaky tones
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and the rusty...
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There's like a rusty feel to his music.
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- [Narrator] Mark Linkous,
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singer, songwriter, composer and founder
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of the American alternative
rock band, Sparklehorse,
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was hugely influential
and lauded by his peers.
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["Maxine" by Sparklehorse continues]
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Mark Linkous had a dramatic life.
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[static crackling]
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- [Mark] My parents split up
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and they sent me to my
grandparents to live with,
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'cause me and my brother
lived with my mom,
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and she worked in a factory.
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- We had a good time.
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I mean, we rode a lot of dirt bikes,
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and that's when Mark first
started to get into music.
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I remember the first guitar he ever got.
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My mom bought it for him.
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You know, he had a really good,
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more stable kind of deal
at my grandparents' house.
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And those were my dad's parents,
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and they were wonderful with him.
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They were extremely close.
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- [Mark] And my grandfather was...
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He was a coal miner.
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A couple people told me about him,
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when they still used mules with carts
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to haul the coal out of mines,
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he got this really stubborn
mule that wouldn't move,
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and he punched it in
the middle of the eyes
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and it fell over dead.
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He was very strict, but he
was very generous as well.
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You know, I told him about this,
that I needed a new guitar,
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and the next day he had three $100 bills
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on the kitchen table for me.
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"Or you must toil with
the pick on the drill"
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"And sweat for your bread
in that hole in Oak Hill"
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"That goes down, down, down"
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"When I was a boy said my daddy to me"
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"Stay out of the mines,
take my warnings said he"
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"Or would just you be choked"
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"And apart or you'll be broken down"
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- [Mark] They would come
home from the deep mines
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and just be...
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Everything was black from the coal soot.
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I knew I didn't wanna do that.
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I thought that it would be a great way
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to stay out of the mines if I tried music.
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[projector clicking]
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- [Narrator] Horse stories are
philosophers stones of sorts
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for wayward Southern souls perhaps,
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circle all around the little
things that need protecting.
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The grandfather that cold
cocked a mule in the mines.
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The animal would not move,
knocked it unconscious.
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The same grandfather left you the cash
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for a new guitar on a table.
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Virginia stately, Virginia
cut over rural America,
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full of drugs and religion.
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- Well, I really got into punk.
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You know, I had all the
original punk records,
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all the Pistols records,
the Stranglers, the Damned,
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all the Fall.
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"Hold on"
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"Turn it on, it's all on me"
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"I wanna hold on"
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- Tonight's Grammy Awards,
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the air will be full of household names,
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stars and superstars,
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so why not we pay some
attention to representatives
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of those many, many people
in the same business
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as the Grammy nominees, but
not in the same spotlight.
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Call it a look at some unsung singers.
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A new group called Dancing Hoods
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will be playing Kamikaze this Friday.
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I say a new group called Dancing Hoods.
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- Dancing Hoods, yeah.
[patrons chattering]
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- Yeah.
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Now, you can find the
work of Dancing Hoods
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at the Upper West Side's Tower Records.
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This is their LP, their first,
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and hey, there's only one left.
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However, I know where you
will not find them tonight.
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You will not find them
3,000 miles that way
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amidst the glamour of the Grammy Awards.
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But I know you can find them,
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in less splendid surroundings
about 25 miles that way.
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["Baby's Got Rockets" by Dancing Hoods]
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All four of the Hoods live
together in this house
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in Merrick, Long Island.
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Live together, create together,
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and in a tiny basement chamber
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at most any hour of the day
or night, play together.
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"You're living in a cul-de-sac"
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"Just another bad day by the way"
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- [Dennis] So you live in squalor,
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you never have any money. [laughs]
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What are you doing this for?
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What indeed?
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Well, as you might expect from
young men living together,
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sharing the same ideal
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and not yet overwhelmed by success,
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they're doing it because
it is their dream.
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- There's nothing like playing
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out in front of a bunch of people,
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nothing like walking out onstage
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and hearing people yell for you.
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You know they're really there for you.
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[upbeat rock music]
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"It was for me"
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- [Dennis] Of course, as
you might also expect,
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they're all also doing
it because it's fun.
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- Actually, I'm looking to
turn the heat on next winter.
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[upbeat rock music]
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- Suppose they made it,
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I wonder how they'd sound
five years from now.
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- I know they're very
idealistic at the moment,
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God bless them.
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- [Narrator] Already
musically accomplished
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on so many levels,
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guitar, songwriting, bandsmanship,
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you came home to Virginia from LA,
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following the end of the Dancing Hoods,
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back from all the poodle rock
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and the demons that
climbed your back there.
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With an eight-track
board from David Lowery
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and mostly self-taught,
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you made an artifact
full of happy accidents.
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You made sonic imperfection
a thing of glory.
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You made
"Vivadixiesubmarinetransmissionplot."
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["Someday I Will Treat
You Good" by Sparklehorse]
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["Rainmaker" by Sparklehorse]
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"Rainmaker's coming"
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"Rainmaker's coming"
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[tape rewinding]
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["Weird Sisters" by Sparklehorse]
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"Parasites will love you"
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"When you're dead"
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"La la la, la la"
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["Hammering the Cramps" by Sparklehorse]
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"Hey, little dog"
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"Can you fly"
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[tape rewinding]
- Vivadixieswordfish...
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Oh, I can't even remember how to say it.
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- Vivadixie...
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What is it?
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- "Submarineplot."
- There you go. that one,
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- When I saw the album title,
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"Vivadixiesubmarinetransmissionplot"
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as one word, I thought,
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"This sounds quite interesting." [laughs]
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- So first time I heard it, I was like,
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"Oh, my God, who is this, and what is it
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and where is it coming from?"
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[birds chirping]
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- Okay, so this is the original location
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of Sound of Music where the
first Sparklehorse record
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was recorded with John
Morand and David Lowery.
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- My role in that first "Vivadixie" record
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was to be Mark's friend
and to be his supporter,
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because I think he'd been kicking around,
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like trying to be in bands.
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He'd been to New York,
he'd been to Los Angeles,
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he'd lived in Charlottesville,
which is, you know,
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a college town, has a little music scene,
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and Richmond has a music scene...
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There were people who got him,
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but I just felt like I just
needed to be his friend
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and sit there with him
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while we sort of discovered
what these songs should be.
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["Spirit Ditch" by Sparklehorse]
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"I want my records back"
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"And that motorcycle gas tank"
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"that I spray painted black"
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- Mark and his brother played
in this band before that,
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what were they called?
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Salt Chunk Mary.
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And they were more...
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They were more thrashy and kind of louder
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than what Sparkle...
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Maybe like the more extreme rock stuff
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that Sparklehorse has.
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That's what Salt Chunk
Mary sounded like, right?
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- He needed to get back to the
reason why he got into music
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in the first place, you know?
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You know, what inspired him in
the very beginning, you know?
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And that's what did it, I think,
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coming back here and just
being with, you know, friends,
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you know, being with people
that he could really relate to
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and really be himself.
[birds chirping]
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- [Mark] After living in
New York and Los Angeles,
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I just had to get...
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You know, be away, be isolated,
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you know, have some open spaces.
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I've come to learn that the
holes and the silent parts
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in music are very important.
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It's really important for me to be able
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to just make as much noise as I want
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and not disturb other people,
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especially having a recording studio.
253
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I don't even like for my
wife to hear me singing.
254
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- You know, we recorded this music
255
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and then his wife had to go to bed
256
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and it's kind of this small
house out in the country,
257
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so he was sort of sketching out
258
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what he wanted to sing and the words,
259
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and he's singing really
quietly into this microphone.
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So like, over the next few months,
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like, whenever Mark could, you know,
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record and stuff like that,
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he started recording at night
and singing really soft.
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And it was just sort of this revelation.
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Like, he had these songs inside of him,
266
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and he'd been sort of
singing them hard and loud,
267
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maybe not like traditional rock,
268
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but just harder and louder before.
269
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But when he slowly unwrapped these songs
270
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in a really quiet way and just
sort of gently let them out,
271
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they became something entirely different
272
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and they became their true selves, right?
273
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And became more who he is
274
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and how he spoke and who he was.
275
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["Homecoming Queen" by Sparklehorse]
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["Homecoming Queen" by
Sparklehorse continues]
277
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["Homecoming Queen" by
Sparklehorse continues]
278
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"A horse, a horse"
279
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"My kingdom for a horse"
280
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"Rattling on magnetic fields"
281
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["Homecoming Queen" by
Sparklehorse continues]
282
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"Yes, I did use up"
283
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"The last box of sparklers"
284
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"Before they went bad"
285
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"Got wet or decayed"
286
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"Homecoming queen"
287
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"Homecoming queen"
288
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- I thought it was completely amazing.
289
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It just came right out of the blue for me,
290
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and I totally loved it
and played it a lot.
291
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Yeah, I thought it was remarkable.
292
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I just...
293
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It had so many elements from
so many worlds that I knew.
294
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- I think my brother sort of described it
295
00:15:48,931 --> 00:15:52,068
as like gothic country music in a way.
296
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And it's very haunting and beautiful.
297
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There are a lot of strange
biblical references as well.
298
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- It's very dreamlike
and ethereal in places,
299
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and yet there was random moments
300
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of distorted ugliness
301
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that I appreciate.
302
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I liked the kinda way it
was sort of slightly schizo.
303
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- [Mark] The way country
people, kinda being so isolated,
304
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they have to kinda improvise
305
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with things they have access to.
306
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I always thought that was
a really admirable trait
307
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of country people, you know?
308
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I think that's why a lot of music is...
309
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It seems really boring
and sterile to me now,
310
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'cause a lot of it
311
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just seems like most of
it's either being made in LA
312
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or New York, and you have, you know,
313
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a guy who's the engineer, that's his job,
314
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or a producer, you know,
his job is a lot of times
315
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to stand over the musicians and say...
316
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Like standing over a painting
and saying, like, you know,
317
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"Use green now."
318
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- You know, I think the studio
319
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was really like more
where he was comfortable,
320
00:17:14,931 --> 00:17:15,965
rather than playing...
321
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Playing live wasn't as appealing,
322
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but it was something that he had to do.
323
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With him, it was just like
getting all these elements,
324
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like recording the band was one thing
325
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and getting interesting sounds doing that.
326
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And then it was just adding things,
327
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just finding interesting things
328
00:17:31,172 --> 00:17:34,827
maybe you wouldn't
associate with pop music,
329
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but they're interesting sounds
330
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and they were, to him, I think equal
331
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and just the biggest part of the picture.
332
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- His genius was that he was so good
333
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at taking a mosaic approach
334
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and allowing himself to just have a chorus
335
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for a year [laughs] and
not do anything with it.
336
00:18:00,344 --> 00:18:05,206
And he never strained himself
[laughs] in that respect.
337
00:18:05,344 --> 00:18:06,448
- He used to have this shirt
338
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and it was the slogan
339
00:18:07,758 --> 00:18:09,482
for some sort of...
340
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Like a plumbing company
or a construction company
341
00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,724
or a chimney sweeping company
or something like that.
342
00:18:16,862 --> 00:18:20,310
And the slogan was, "We may not be good,
343
00:18:20,448 --> 00:18:22,413
but we sure are slow."
344
00:18:22,551 --> 00:18:23,655
Right?
345
00:18:23,793 --> 00:18:25,379
In a lot of ways, I always think of Mark,
346
00:18:25,517 --> 00:18:29,551
and I think about that
slogan summing up, in a way,
347
00:18:29,689 --> 00:18:32,620
his musical philosophy, right?
348
00:18:32,758 --> 00:18:35,482
His attitudes towards art and everything.
349
00:18:35,620 --> 00:18:37,896
He always loved all of
these broken things,
350
00:18:38,034 --> 00:18:40,137
these kind of lo-fi things,
351
00:18:40,275 --> 00:18:43,310
these songs that would be, you know,
352
00:18:44,172 --> 00:18:48,482
like a Daniel Johnston
song, or a Skip Spence song
353
00:18:48,620 --> 00:18:50,068
or a Departmentstore Santas songs...
354
00:18:50,206 --> 00:18:53,689
These songs that were kind of like lo-fi,
355
00:18:53,827 --> 00:18:55,517
a little bit broken.
356
00:18:56,413 --> 00:18:59,482
Where everybody else was
playing fast in those days,
357
00:18:59,620 --> 00:19:04,068
he and I started liking all
this slow music, you know?
358
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So yeah, we may not be
good, but we sure are slow.
359
00:19:08,344 --> 00:19:10,206
- [Mark] I was recording
some of my first record,
360
00:19:10,344 --> 00:19:11,862
I was still a chimney sweep.
361
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,172
I had this wrong idea
that being a chimney sweep
362
00:19:14,310 --> 00:19:17,896
was a very respected,
regal occupation to have.
363
00:19:18,034 --> 00:19:21,206
And then I learned the
hard way that it wasn't.
364
00:19:21,344 --> 00:19:25,275
If I wasn't able to articulate my feelings
365
00:19:25,413 --> 00:19:28,931
into some type of art,
I think I would explode.
366
00:19:29,068 --> 00:19:30,689
And yeah, that's the only
thing I know how to do, really.
367
00:19:30,827 --> 00:19:34,586
["Saturday" by Sparklehorse]
368
00:19:34,724 --> 00:19:39,724
"You are a sea of air"
369
00:19:42,379 --> 00:19:46,206
"I play great keyboards"
370
00:19:46,344 --> 00:19:48,517
"Of horses' teeth"
371
00:19:48,655 --> 00:19:53,689
"On Saturday"
372
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"On Saturday"
373
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["Saturday" by Sparklehorse continues]
374
00:20:10,413 --> 00:20:11,793
"I'd like to tell you"
- There were three albums
375
00:20:11,931 --> 00:20:14,448
that were the main inspiration
376
00:20:15,689 --> 00:20:17,344
for me starting as a solo artist,
377
00:20:17,482 --> 00:20:19,413
and one was "Closing Time" by Tom Waits
378
00:20:19,551 --> 00:20:21,344
and the other was...
379
00:20:21,482 --> 00:20:23,137
I think it was "Bryter
Layter" by Nick Drake,
380
00:20:23,275 --> 00:20:26,172
and the other one was
Sparklehorse's first record,
381
00:20:26,310 --> 00:20:27,827
and I just played it to death.
382
00:20:27,965 --> 00:20:29,310
- I think that first album,
383
00:20:29,448 --> 00:20:31,206
it made quite a big wave, really.
384
00:20:31,344 --> 00:20:33,758
I was sitting next to a young lady at work
385
00:20:33,896 --> 00:20:35,655
who's, you know, just turning up 30,
386
00:20:35,793 --> 00:20:39,068
so I've got more than 15 years on her,
387
00:20:40,379 --> 00:20:44,000
and she was given a couple
of tracks from "Vivadixie"
388
00:20:44,137 --> 00:20:45,931
on a lover's tape from her teens!
389
00:20:46,068 --> 00:20:48,275
So you know, it reached far and wide.
390
00:20:48,413 --> 00:20:52,896
["Good Morning Spider" by Sparklehorse]
391
00:20:53,896 --> 00:20:57,137
- [Narrator] Then such an
unhappy accident would occur.
392
00:20:57,275 --> 00:21:00,344
You were found on the floor
of a London hotel room,
393
00:21:00,482 --> 00:21:02,241
following the critical success
394
00:21:02,379 --> 00:21:04,482
you'd received for "Vivadixie,"
395
00:21:04,620 --> 00:21:06,206
in terrible need of sleep.
396
00:21:06,344 --> 00:21:07,586
Too much all at once,
397
00:21:07,724 --> 00:21:11,586
you, a gentle introvert
playing arenas with Radiohead
398
00:21:11,724 --> 00:21:16,275
and then the pills, the
drugs, trying to sleep.
399
00:21:16,413 --> 00:21:19,413
You live to see what Frank
Stanford wrote about dying
400
00:21:19,551 --> 00:21:23,241
in the poem you shared with
us, "The Light the Dead See."
401
00:21:23,379 --> 00:21:27,000
He said, "The light grows, a white flower.
402
00:21:28,310 --> 00:21:31,689
It becomes very intense, like music.
403
00:21:31,827 --> 00:21:33,689
["Good Morning Spider" by
Sparklehorse continues]
404
00:21:33,827 --> 00:21:36,758
[static crackling]
405
00:21:45,448 --> 00:21:49,000
[ominous electronic music]
406
00:21:52,241 --> 00:21:54,000
- [Mark] Well, someone
gave me a big bottle
407
00:21:54,137 --> 00:21:55,655
of Mexican Valium,
408
00:21:58,206 --> 00:22:01,931
and I guess I just had
been taking 'em real heavy
409
00:22:02,068 --> 00:22:03,241
for a while.
410
00:22:03,379 --> 00:22:06,793
That's one of the last things I remember.
411
00:22:08,620 --> 00:22:10,758
I guess I just passed out,
412
00:22:10,896 --> 00:22:13,034
and both my legs up underneath of me,
413
00:22:13,172 --> 00:22:15,931
so they were kinda pinned up under me.
414
00:22:16,068 --> 00:22:17,896
I guess the maid found me that morning
415
00:22:18,034 --> 00:22:21,482
and the paramedics came
[static crackling]
416
00:22:21,620 --> 00:22:24,000
and they pulled my legs out.
417
00:22:25,275 --> 00:22:28,344
It releases from
circulation being cut off,
418
00:22:28,482 --> 00:22:31,344
all this potassium builds up and that...
419
00:22:31,482 --> 00:22:34,137
And the limbs that are cut off,
420
00:22:34,275 --> 00:22:35,862
it goes through your heart
and gives you a heart attack.
421
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,862
[ominous electronic music continues]
422
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,482
But I guess it did kill me for
a few minutes or something.
423
00:22:41,620 --> 00:22:43,103
[monitor beeping]
424
00:22:43,241 --> 00:22:47,137
["Saint Mary" by Sparklehorse]
425
00:22:58,034 --> 00:23:02,034
["Saint Mary" by Sparklehorse continues]
426
00:23:02,172 --> 00:23:07,172
"Blanket me"
427
00:23:08,655 --> 00:23:11,655
"Sweet nurse"
428
00:23:11,793 --> 00:23:15,344
"And keep me from burning"
429
00:23:19,137 --> 00:23:24,103
- And this song I wrote
about the sisters in America,
430
00:23:24,241 --> 00:23:27,586
the sisters are nurses to the Americans,
431
00:23:30,827 --> 00:23:35,137
specifically these two Irish
girls, Fiona and Aimer.
432
00:23:37,620 --> 00:23:40,103
They just took really good
care of me in the hospital.
433
00:23:40,241 --> 00:23:41,620
And to the extent
434
00:23:41,758 --> 00:23:46,689
where they would come in on
their days off to check on me.
435
00:23:47,241 --> 00:23:50,827
And I don't know, I
guess I've just always,
436
00:23:50,965 --> 00:23:53,137
I felt like I needed to...
437
00:23:55,586 --> 00:23:58,310
I mean, they saved my life there.
438
00:23:59,482 --> 00:24:00,793
It wasn't just the sisters,
439
00:24:00,931 --> 00:24:04,793
but the doctors really
were very compassionate
440
00:24:06,103 --> 00:24:07,000
and that...
441
00:24:10,482 --> 00:24:11,206
I don't know,
442
00:24:11,344 --> 00:24:12,551
I just feel like I owe 'em,
443
00:24:12,689 --> 00:24:15,689
'cause they literally saved my life.
444
00:24:16,655 --> 00:24:19,931
- I just went and hung out
with him for a few days.
445
00:24:20,068 --> 00:24:22,586
I mean, it was kind of crazy.
446
00:24:22,724 --> 00:24:24,517
I mean, the first thing he did...
447
00:24:24,655 --> 00:24:26,931
Well, the first moment that we had alone,
448
00:24:27,068 --> 00:24:29,137
he said, "You have to kill me.
449
00:24:29,275 --> 00:24:33,068
I can't live with this pain, you know?
450
00:24:33,206 --> 00:24:35,068
Just unplug something."
451
00:24:35,206 --> 00:24:36,379
You know, it's like,
452
00:24:36,517 --> 00:24:40,000
"I'm [chuckles] not
going to do that, Mark."
453
00:24:40,137 --> 00:24:41,310
It's pretty...
454
00:24:42,241 --> 00:24:44,103
Pretty intense.
455
00:24:44,241 --> 00:24:45,793
- But he had a tough time after that.
456
00:24:45,931 --> 00:24:48,241
I mean, the recovery was extremely slow.
457
00:24:48,379 --> 00:24:50,137
It was very, very painful.
458
00:24:50,275 --> 00:24:53,724
He wanted to get back to what he does,
459
00:24:53,862 --> 00:24:56,482
and he did as soon as he could.
460
00:24:57,517 --> 00:25:00,724
I mean, that's when he was
working on "Good Morning Spider,"
461
00:25:00,862 --> 00:25:03,413
and he did a lot of that
out of a wheelchair.
462
00:25:03,551 --> 00:25:06,172
All of it, really, even toward...
463
00:25:06,310 --> 00:25:08,068
From a wheelchair.
[melancholic classical music]
464
00:25:08,206 --> 00:25:11,034
- [Narrator] But you persisted
after the operations.
465
00:25:11,172 --> 00:25:14,379
It was as if our hero had
been thrown by his own horse.
466
00:25:14,517 --> 00:25:15,482
And here to tell us about it,
467
00:25:15,620 --> 00:25:18,000
from a great stoep of a concert stage
468
00:25:18,137 --> 00:25:20,241
in a crumpled cowboy hat.
469
00:25:21,344 --> 00:25:23,103
Despite your restriction to a wheelchair,
470
00:25:23,241 --> 00:25:26,137
you once told me that as
long as Vic Chesnutt did it,
471
00:25:26,275 --> 00:25:28,241
you knew you could do it.
472
00:25:28,379 --> 00:25:31,206
Following multiple
operations on your legs,
473
00:25:31,344 --> 00:25:32,551
you said you felt pressured
474
00:25:32,689 --> 00:25:35,000
into finishing "Good
Morning Spider" too quickly
475
00:25:35,137 --> 00:25:38,241
and that the collaborations
were too phoned in,
476
00:25:38,379 --> 00:25:41,758
saying it was your least
favorite of all your records.
477
00:25:41,896 --> 00:25:44,551
But it's now undisputed
that despite the adversity,
478
00:25:44,689 --> 00:25:47,620
"Good Morning Spider" is
a document of resurrection
479
00:25:47,758 --> 00:25:51,137
containing timeless pop songs
and every bit is wonderous
480
00:25:51,275 --> 00:25:53,103
to to behold as "Vivadixie."
481
00:25:53,241 --> 00:25:54,689
- [Mark] David Lowery,
482
00:25:54,827 --> 00:25:56,793
he came to see me in
the hospital in London
483
00:25:56,931 --> 00:26:00,793
and played a song for
me that I always loved.
484
00:26:00,931 --> 00:26:03,689
And he left the guitar and
I think he forgot about it.
485
00:26:03,827 --> 00:26:06,517
- I brought over a guitar
486
00:26:06,655 --> 00:26:07,689
and also, at some point,
487
00:26:07,827 --> 00:26:10,586
I went down the street and got him a Coke,
488
00:26:10,724 --> 00:26:12,758
because they wouldn't give him a Coke.
489
00:26:12,896 --> 00:26:15,172
And... [laughs]
490
00:26:15,310 --> 00:26:19,724
"Well, if you won't kill
me, get me a Coke." [laughs]
491
00:26:19,862 --> 00:26:21,689
[somber classical music]
492
00:26:21,827 --> 00:26:22,793
- [Narrator] Following the accident,
493
00:26:22,931 --> 00:26:26,068
Mark had to learn to live with disability.
494
00:26:26,206 --> 00:26:29,103
His friend and fellow
musician, Vic Chesnutt,
495
00:26:29,241 --> 00:26:30,551
served as a compass,
496
00:26:30,689 --> 00:26:32,793
helping Mark navigate
the required adjustments
497
00:26:32,931 --> 00:26:36,034
facing a disabled touring musician.
498
00:26:37,241 --> 00:26:40,379
I think that Vic had weathered so much
499
00:26:42,793 --> 00:26:45,724
and dealt so gracefully with people
500
00:26:48,275 --> 00:26:51,689
and other musicians and situations
501
00:26:51,827 --> 00:26:55,896
that musicians find themselves
in, and in a wheelchair,
502
00:26:56,034 --> 00:26:58,931
and that Mark had Vic in his life,
503
00:26:59,068 --> 00:27:03,758
you know, to sort of be someone
to blaze a trail for him
504
00:27:05,137 --> 00:27:08,448
and not make him feel as odd, you know?
505
00:27:08,586 --> 00:27:13,586
He made it seem doable.
["Painbirds" by Sparklehorse]
506
00:27:14,620 --> 00:27:18,172
"Goddamn, it's so very hot"
507
00:27:25,758 --> 00:27:30,620
"Supposed to come a rain, but it's not"
508
00:27:35,620 --> 00:27:40,206
"Oh, yeah"
509
00:27:40,344 --> 00:27:45,689
"Here come the painbirds"
510
00:27:46,655 --> 00:27:51,758
"Oh, yeah"
511
00:27:52,103 --> 00:27:56,310
"Here come the painbirds"
512
00:27:56,448 --> 00:28:00,586
["Painbirds" by Sparklehorse continues]
513
00:28:00,724 --> 00:28:02,724
- [Narrator] Walking wobbly,
514
00:28:02,862 --> 00:28:05,034
you went to your brother Matt.
515
00:28:05,172 --> 00:28:07,896
"I've gotta ride," you said,
516
00:28:08,034 --> 00:28:10,724
your old Guzzi with the big nickel tank.
517
00:28:10,862 --> 00:28:12,172
You couldn't find first gear,
518
00:28:12,310 --> 00:28:14,413
so he leans down and taps it for you,
519
00:28:14,551 --> 00:28:18,068
always an expert cyclist,
and you were off.
520
00:28:19,344 --> 00:28:20,724
- [Mark] Well, it seems
like I was in a wheelchair
521
00:28:20,862 --> 00:28:22,827
for a long time.
522
00:28:22,965 --> 00:28:27,931
It made me be a little more
perceptive to small things,
523
00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:31,379
you know, babies and animals and sex,
524
00:28:33,344 --> 00:28:34,448
things like that.
525
00:28:34,586 --> 00:28:37,689
"Shining motorcycle"
526
00:28:42,206 --> 00:28:46,448
["All Night Home" by Sparklehorse]
527
00:28:49,310 --> 00:28:53,034
"Through the trees we rifle"
528
00:29:02,551 --> 00:29:06,793
"We're gonna drive all night home"
529
00:29:13,344 --> 00:29:14,241
"We're gonna drive"
- I did a tour
530
00:29:14,379 --> 00:29:16,620
and I played guitar with Joe Henry,
531
00:29:16,758 --> 00:29:18,724
and a lot of the dates,
532
00:29:20,206 --> 00:29:23,068
Sparklehorse opened for Joe Henry.
533
00:29:23,931 --> 00:29:28,000
And that was kind of right
after Mark's accident,
534
00:29:28,965 --> 00:29:30,103
where his legs...
535
00:29:30,241 --> 00:29:32,379
You know, where he fell
asleep on his legs.
536
00:29:32,517 --> 00:29:34,620
And so he was playing...
537
00:29:34,758 --> 00:29:36,206
The first time I saw 'em,
538
00:29:36,344 --> 00:29:38,379
and he was playing in
the wheelchair and stuff,
539
00:29:38,517 --> 00:29:39,620
and it was just, like,
540
00:29:39,758 --> 00:29:43,482
this was really touching
and beautiful music.
541
00:29:46,482 --> 00:29:49,206
- Yeah, I mean, that was
the time period, you know?
542
00:29:49,344 --> 00:29:51,137
It was, you know, Flaming Lips,
543
00:29:51,275 --> 00:29:56,241
although they had more of a
built-in producer studio guy
544
00:29:56,620 --> 00:29:58,241
who was working with them.
545
00:29:58,379 --> 00:30:01,137
There was a lot of us who
are more kind of soloists
546
00:30:01,275 --> 00:30:04,482
who were attempting to
create these little worlds,
547
00:30:04,620 --> 00:30:05,862
these magical worlds,
548
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:09,379
and sort of get out of
the confines of, you know,
549
00:30:09,517 --> 00:30:13,275
scratchy, crappy, cassette recording.
550
00:30:13,413 --> 00:30:15,827
- A common hue between many of the groups
551
00:30:15,965 --> 00:30:20,172
that, you know, might be in
the same sentence together,
552
00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:23,862
or breath, you know, whether it was Rev
553
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,827
or Sparklehorse or Flaming
Lips and Grandaddy,
554
00:30:28,655 --> 00:30:31,965
and I would be hesitant
to just stop there.
555
00:30:32,103 --> 00:30:33,517
I think there was a lot.
556
00:30:33,655 --> 00:30:35,103
I don't know if it was a...
557
00:30:35,241 --> 00:30:38,068
I can't say from my point it
was ever a conscious effort
558
00:30:38,206 --> 00:30:41,103
to say, "This is the street that I live on
559
00:30:41,241 --> 00:30:42,896
amidst these other houses
560
00:30:43,034 --> 00:30:46,655
and these are the only other
kids that I play well with."
561
00:30:46,793 --> 00:30:48,827
And I don't think they would either.
562
00:30:48,965 --> 00:30:51,241
- I think where Mark and I both ended up
563
00:30:51,379 --> 00:30:54,827
was having an appreciation for, you know,
564
00:30:57,655 --> 00:31:00,413
the dirty little nasty
and the gritty stuff,
565
00:31:00,551 --> 00:31:04,379
but just like trying to
achieve this overall balance
566
00:31:04,517 --> 00:31:07,344
with like, you know, the lush cinematic
567
00:31:07,482 --> 00:31:09,241
and the beautiful stuff and combine them,
568
00:31:09,379 --> 00:31:12,413
and I think that we were
treading on that same path.
569
00:31:12,551 --> 00:31:14,551
"He smashed into the cemetery gates"
570
00:31:14,689 --> 00:31:16,724
["Happy Man" by Sparklehorse]
571
00:31:16,862 --> 00:31:21,862
"All I want is to be a happy man"
572
00:31:23,310 --> 00:31:27,241
"All I want is to be a happy man"
573
00:31:29,379 --> 00:31:34,000
["Happy Man" by Sparklehorse continues]
574
00:31:41,517 --> 00:31:46,344
["It's a Wonderful Life" by Sparklehorse]
575
00:31:55,724 --> 00:32:00,689
["It's a Wonderful Life"
by Sparklehorse continues]
576
00:32:01,241 --> 00:32:06,241
"It's a wonderful life"
577
00:32:08,448 --> 00:32:11,793
"It's a wonderful life"
578
00:32:15,068 --> 00:32:17,965
["It's a Wonderful Life"
by Sparklehorse continues]
579
00:32:18,103 --> 00:32:19,379
- [Narrator] Having gained a reputation
580
00:32:19,517 --> 00:32:23,172
for unparalleled DIY
workmanship and invention,
581
00:32:23,310 --> 00:32:26,172
and despite your professed
difficulty with words,
582
00:32:26,310 --> 00:32:28,517
you dealt a now chemical
stroke of timelessness
583
00:32:28,655 --> 00:32:30,137
with your next effort.
584
00:32:30,275 --> 00:32:32,206
This album would be considered by many
585
00:32:32,344 --> 00:32:34,206
the apex of your career.
586
00:32:34,344 --> 00:32:36,965
An assemblage of pure
Mark Linkous aesthetic
587
00:32:37,103 --> 00:32:38,758
was presented to the world
588
00:32:38,896 --> 00:32:41,689
under the shell-shocked and
soot black halo of 9/11.
589
00:32:41,827 --> 00:32:44,758
["It's a Wonderful Life"
by Sparklehorse continues]
590
00:32:44,896 --> 00:32:46,896
- I know my tastes aren't
necessarily mainstream,
591
00:32:47,034 --> 00:32:48,379
I don't care about that.
592
00:32:48,517 --> 00:32:50,689
I just think I can tell good from bad,
593
00:32:50,827 --> 00:32:54,482
and "It's a Wonderful
Life" is a masterpiece
594
00:32:55,931 --> 00:32:57,655
and it stands up there with...
595
00:32:57,793 --> 00:32:59,344
I mean, masterpiece is an overused term,
596
00:32:59,482 --> 00:33:02,034
genius is an overused term as well,
597
00:33:02,172 --> 00:33:03,068
but I think it's a masterpiece.
598
00:33:03,206 --> 00:33:07,103
["Piano Fire" by Sparklehorse]
599
00:33:18,758 --> 00:33:23,758
"I got sunburnt waiting
for the jets to land"
600
00:33:25,689 --> 00:33:26,862
- I remember being in the studio
601
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,275
and my wife, Michelle, called and said,
602
00:33:29,413 --> 00:33:31,137
"Oh, John, you're gonna be
really excited to hear this.
603
00:33:31,275 --> 00:33:33,275
Mark Linkous from Sparklehorse called,
604
00:33:33,413 --> 00:33:35,241
and he wants you to call him back,
605
00:33:35,379 --> 00:33:36,275
and you call him back
606
00:33:36,413 --> 00:33:38,482
when you come out of the studio tonight."
607
00:33:38,620 --> 00:33:39,862
And so I think, "Wow, great!"
608
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,068
I mean, you know, I expect
he's called to ask me
609
00:33:44,206 --> 00:33:45,103
to produce, you know?
610
00:33:45,241 --> 00:33:48,896
Why else would he call me out of the blue?
611
00:33:49,034 --> 00:33:50,379
And you know, we chatted a little while
612
00:33:50,517 --> 00:33:53,827
and I was thinking, "Well,
okay, when's he gonna ask me?"
613
00:33:53,965 --> 00:33:54,793
And then he just said,
614
00:33:54,931 --> 00:33:56,379
"John, I wanted to ask you something."
615
00:33:56,517 --> 00:33:57,793
And I was like, "Okay, great."
616
00:33:57,931 --> 00:33:59,758
And he said, "I wanted to
see if you could recommend
617
00:33:59,896 --> 00:34:04,172
any studios where I might
be able to work." [laughs]
618
00:34:04,310 --> 00:34:06,896
And I was like, "Oh, that's..."
619
00:34:08,103 --> 00:34:12,103
So I kind of recovered, tried
to hide my disappointment
620
00:34:12,241 --> 00:34:13,482
and mentioned a couple.
621
00:34:13,620 --> 00:34:15,344
And I said, "Oh yeah,
by the way, you know,
622
00:34:15,482 --> 00:34:18,862
there's a particular studio in
Amsterdam I'm gonna recommend
623
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,413
'cause I've just finished
making a record there."
624
00:34:22,551 --> 00:34:24,896
And he said, "Oh, so
you were you making...
625
00:34:25,034 --> 00:34:26,413
What, was it one of your records?"
626
00:34:26,551 --> 00:34:29,068
And I said, "No, I was
producing a band over there."
627
00:34:29,206 --> 00:34:32,103
And he said, "Oh, do you produce records?"
628
00:34:32,241 --> 00:34:33,620
[John chuckling]
629
00:34:33,758 --> 00:34:35,655
And so I said, "Yeah."
630
00:34:35,793 --> 00:34:37,862
So he said, a little pause,
631
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,758
"Would you be interested in
producing something for me?"
632
00:34:39,896 --> 00:34:41,689
[John laughing]
633
00:34:41,827 --> 00:34:44,655
And so I said, "Yes." [laughs]
634
00:34:44,793 --> 00:34:46,724
Thinking, "I thought that
was why we were gonna have
635
00:34:46,862 --> 00:34:48,448
this conversation in the beginning."
636
00:34:48,586 --> 00:34:50,586
And you know, I'm never
quite sure with Mark,
637
00:34:50,724 --> 00:34:54,758
having known him now, knowing
his dry sense of humor,
638
00:34:54,896 --> 00:34:58,862
I wonder if that was some
kind of weird joke, or...
639
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,034
I mean, I'll never know.
640
00:35:02,206 --> 00:35:03,482
- [Narrator] Your peers
would heed the call
641
00:35:03,620 --> 00:35:05,137
when you said you didn't
wanna play every instrument
642
00:35:05,275 --> 00:35:06,172
on every song,
643
00:35:06,310 --> 00:35:07,793
and that you wanted other people's brains
644
00:35:07,931 --> 00:35:09,448
and input involved.
645
00:35:09,586 --> 00:35:12,137
Enter John Parish, Alan Weatherhead,
646
00:35:12,275 --> 00:35:16,172
Adrian Utley, Dave Fridmann, Nina Persson,
647
00:35:16,310 --> 00:35:19,000
Tom Waits, PJ Harvey and others.
648
00:35:20,517 --> 00:35:23,172
- Well, all the people
that I've worked with
649
00:35:23,310 --> 00:35:26,310
or collaborated with, I've always...
650
00:35:28,758 --> 00:35:32,793
I was fans of their music
before I ever met 'em, you know?
651
00:35:32,931 --> 00:35:35,931
I was a huge Portishead fan
before I ever met Adrian,
652
00:35:36,068 --> 00:35:39,241
you know, and now we're great friends.
653
00:35:39,379 --> 00:35:42,551
And the same with Tom Waits, you know?
654
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,448
His records, especially his later records,
655
00:35:46,586 --> 00:35:48,275
starting with like the Island ones,
656
00:35:48,413 --> 00:35:52,586
with "Rain Dogs" and
"Swordfish" and "Bone Machine,"
657
00:35:52,724 --> 00:35:53,862
all that.
658
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,206
I just love the sound of
those records so much,
659
00:35:57,344 --> 00:36:00,758
and it's still hard for me to comprehend
660
00:36:02,137 --> 00:36:05,310
the fact that, you know,
we were on record together,
661
00:36:05,448 --> 00:36:09,172
that he sings lead vocals
on a Sparklehorse album.
662
00:36:09,310 --> 00:36:13,275
["Dog Door" by Sparklehorse]
663
00:36:15,620 --> 00:36:18,896
"Well, she's as mean as a needle"
664
00:36:19,034 --> 00:36:22,965
"Don't get too close to the heater"
665
00:36:23,103 --> 00:36:28,068
"Like a mean shopkeeper
who got an extra gun"
666
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,931
"She about six-foot-four,
and she's a wrecking ball"
667
00:36:35,413 --> 00:36:36,724
- I was slightly nervous
668
00:36:36,862 --> 00:36:39,793
about actually what I was
going to be able to contribute.
669
00:36:39,931 --> 00:36:41,862
But of course, you know,
when you get in the studio,
670
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,862
you start working with things, it's not...
671
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,586
The lines are very much
more blurred, you know?
672
00:36:48,724 --> 00:36:50,586
You know, I might have played
some instruments or whatever,
673
00:36:50,724 --> 00:36:51,931
or suggested different things,
674
00:36:52,068 --> 00:36:54,862
and it's not producer sits in the chair,
675
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,758
artist, you know, goes in the studio
676
00:36:56,896 --> 00:36:57,793
and performs or whatever.
677
00:36:57,931 --> 00:37:01,172
It's a much more fluid situation.
678
00:37:01,310 --> 00:37:04,551
- When I was working with him,
John Parish was producing,
679
00:37:04,689 --> 00:37:07,172
but John's not a bombastic man
680
00:37:09,275 --> 00:37:11,620
about, you know, he won't...
681
00:37:11,758 --> 00:37:13,758
He's not like Phil Spector
who tells you what to do,
682
00:37:13,896 --> 00:37:15,793
I imagine, you know?
683
00:37:15,931 --> 00:37:17,344
So it was very much...
684
00:37:17,482 --> 00:37:19,517
From my side of it,
685
00:37:19,655 --> 00:37:22,068
it was seemed a very good collaboration.
686
00:37:22,206 --> 00:37:25,344
And Mark was very clear
often about what he wanted
687
00:37:25,482 --> 00:37:28,034
and his sounds and stuff,
688
00:37:28,172 --> 00:37:30,689
but very, very open to working with
689
00:37:30,827 --> 00:37:33,413
the people that he'd
surrounded himself with.
690
00:37:33,551 --> 00:37:37,310
- I remember the beginning of one day,
691
00:37:37,448 --> 00:37:41,310
he seemed so down when
I arrived at the studio.
692
00:37:41,448 --> 00:37:45,620
And I mean, I'm not one
of those kind of producers
693
00:37:45,758 --> 00:37:48,103
that kind of, you know,
jivvies everybody up
694
00:37:48,241 --> 00:37:49,034
and like, "Come on!"
695
00:37:49,172 --> 00:37:51,931
You know, that's not really my...
696
00:37:53,793 --> 00:37:55,586
I'm not comfortable working in that way.
697
00:37:55,724 --> 00:37:56,827
And I thought,
698
00:37:56,965 --> 00:37:59,758
"Well, how are we gonna
do something today?
699
00:37:59,896 --> 00:38:02,758
It seems like he's so despondent
700
00:38:02,896 --> 00:38:06,551
that he just can't see
that there's any worth
701
00:38:06,689 --> 00:38:07,793
in what he's doing."
702
00:38:07,931 --> 00:38:10,275
But he had, you know, a couple of chords,
703
00:38:10,413 --> 00:38:12,000
and he was kind of messing
around a little bit
704
00:38:12,137 --> 00:38:14,241
with this guitar part.
705
00:38:14,379 --> 00:38:16,172
And I sort of said, "Well,
those chords are really nice.
706
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:17,310
Those chords are great.
707
00:38:17,448 --> 00:38:19,275
Can we do something with them?"
708
00:38:19,413 --> 00:38:21,724
And he sorta almost said,
709
00:38:21,862 --> 00:38:23,551
"Well, you know, see if you
can do something with them,
710
00:38:23,689 --> 00:38:25,724
you know, because I don't know what...
711
00:38:25,862 --> 00:38:26,689
I try, you know..."
712
00:38:26,827 --> 00:38:29,310
And just kind of dismissed it.
713
00:38:31,793 --> 00:38:34,068
And so I sort of messed around
with the chords a little bit,
714
00:38:34,206 --> 00:38:35,551
didn't change 'em at all, you know?
715
00:38:35,689 --> 00:38:36,862
They were absolutely...
["Gold Day" by Sparklehorse]
716
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,413
It was a great chord sequence
717
00:38:38,551 --> 00:38:42,413
and it was the chord sequence
for the song "Gold Day"
718
00:38:42,551 --> 00:38:45,000
from "It's a Wonderful Life."
719
00:38:46,206 --> 00:38:49,068
And I, you know, recorded some bass
720
00:38:49,206 --> 00:38:52,068
and we managed to cut a drum
track and a guitar track.
721
00:38:52,206 --> 00:38:53,620
And by about halfway through the day,
722
00:38:53,758 --> 00:38:58,413
I could see that he was kind
of getting a sense of the song.
723
00:38:58,551 --> 00:39:00,275
And then by sort of halfway
through the afternoon,
724
00:39:00,413 --> 00:39:03,206
he put down that beautiful vocal.
725
00:39:04,137 --> 00:39:06,137
And by the end of the day,
726
00:39:06,275 --> 00:39:09,344
he was so excited and so happy,
727
00:39:09,482 --> 00:39:12,862
and for me, that was the
best day of the session.
728
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,517
'Cause I thought, "Wow, you
know, there is that power
729
00:39:15,655 --> 00:39:19,241
within his music that even
despite himself, you know,
730
00:39:19,379 --> 00:39:23,655
he can pull himself out
from such a dark place
731
00:39:23,793 --> 00:39:26,724
with the beauty of what he's doing.
732
00:39:28,206 --> 00:39:33,206
"In silver piles of smiles"
733
00:39:34,206 --> 00:39:39,241
"May all your days be gold, my child"
734
00:39:39,724 --> 00:39:44,724
"May all your days be gold, my child"
735
00:39:45,482 --> 00:39:47,793
"May all your days be gold"
736
00:39:47,931 --> 00:39:49,103
- I think they'd been working before.
737
00:39:49,241 --> 00:39:53,689
And I got there and there
was John Parish Scott,
738
00:39:53,827 --> 00:39:58,103
who played drums, and
fantastic samples and stuff.
739
00:39:58,241 --> 00:40:02,482
And Polly Harvey was there
for the whole period,
740
00:40:02,620 --> 00:40:07,000
and John and me and Mark, and
we could swap instruments,
741
00:40:07,137 --> 00:40:08,586
and it was really...
742
00:40:08,724 --> 00:40:09,586
It was really nice.
743
00:40:09,724 --> 00:40:13,413
And he was so, you know, self-effacing
744
00:40:13,551 --> 00:40:16,413
and kind of humble when we met, you know?
745
00:40:16,551 --> 00:40:17,413
[engine revving]
746
00:40:17,551 --> 00:40:20,275
["More Yellow Birds" by Sparklehorse]
747
00:40:20,413 --> 00:40:24,551
- He indulged me with the
inspiration behind certain songs.
748
00:40:24,689 --> 00:40:26,034
and I asked him,
749
00:40:27,724 --> 00:40:30,275
where in the world did the idea
750
00:40:31,206 --> 00:40:32,965
for "More Yellow Birds come from?
751
00:40:33,103 --> 00:40:34,275
Is it literal?
752
00:40:35,482 --> 00:40:36,724
How did that come to you?"
753
00:40:36,862 --> 00:40:39,931
'Cause it's one of my
favorite images in his work.
754
00:40:40,068 --> 00:40:43,000
And he said there was, in fact, someone,
755
00:40:43,137 --> 00:40:45,000
I think in England or somewhere in Europe,
756
00:40:45,137 --> 00:40:47,206
that, after his accident,
757
00:40:49,172 --> 00:40:53,068
just kept sending him
these little fake canaries,
758
00:40:53,206 --> 00:40:55,862
these little fake gold trenches.
759
00:40:56,896 --> 00:40:58,413
And they would really just cheer him up.
760
00:40:58,551 --> 00:41:00,000
He'd open up the mail one day
761
00:41:00,137 --> 00:41:04,137
and he'd literally have more yellow birds.
762
00:41:04,275 --> 00:41:09,310
"Please send me more yellow birds"
763
00:41:09,620 --> 00:41:12,896
"For the dim interior"
764
00:41:13,965 --> 00:41:17,517
- We recorded the song
"More Yellow Birds,"
765
00:41:19,275 --> 00:41:20,379
which is kind of different.
766
00:41:20,517 --> 00:41:22,172
It's sort of an anomaly on that record.
767
00:41:22,310 --> 00:41:24,241
It's just kind of
different from everything
768
00:41:24,379 --> 00:41:27,206
and it's a different set of musicians.
769
00:41:27,344 --> 00:41:30,379
We just did that in the
studio here in Richmond,
770
00:41:30,517 --> 00:41:32,965
pretty simply, we recorded it live.
771
00:41:33,103 --> 00:41:34,482
I think what he did for
a lot of that record
772
00:41:34,620 --> 00:41:37,379
is he would record the guitar
and then take the guitar away,
773
00:41:37,517 --> 00:41:39,172
so that's what happened on that song.
774
00:41:39,310 --> 00:41:43,206
Usually things we would
work on take a long time.
775
00:41:43,344 --> 00:41:44,931
It was a lot of tracks
and sifting through 'em.
776
00:41:45,068 --> 00:41:47,586
And this was really like a couple takes,
777
00:41:47,724 --> 00:41:49,034
a couple overdubs,
778
00:41:49,172 --> 00:41:51,068
and then he just sang it once,
779
00:41:51,206 --> 00:41:53,482
like, that's the only
vocal we ever did on it.
780
00:41:53,620 --> 00:41:57,724
["Sea of Teeth" by Sparklehorse]
781
00:42:01,551 --> 00:42:06,655
"For the love we had"
782
00:42:10,827 --> 00:42:14,482
"In some ways, feeling sad"
783
00:42:16,862 --> 00:42:17,689
- The first thing I asked him
784
00:42:17,827 --> 00:42:20,655
is, "How do you write the songs?
785
00:42:20,793 --> 00:42:21,724
How do you actually do it?
786
00:42:21,862 --> 00:42:23,344
Do you sit down with a drum track?"
787
00:42:23,482 --> 00:42:25,448
'Cause I know he's used
drum machines in the past,
788
00:42:25,586 --> 00:42:27,000
or maybe you have a little guitar riff
789
00:42:27,137 --> 00:42:28,206
or something and build it together.
790
00:42:28,344 --> 00:42:30,344
"Or do you have something in your head
791
00:42:30,482 --> 00:42:31,482
that you have to lay down?"
792
00:42:31,620 --> 00:42:32,724
And it was really fast.
793
00:42:32,862 --> 00:42:34,137
"No, it's in my head."
794
00:42:34,275 --> 00:42:35,896
I said, "The whole thing is in your head?"
795
00:42:36,034 --> 00:42:37,965
And he says, "Yeah, the
whole thing, all the time,
796
00:42:38,103 --> 00:42:42,758
is in my head, and then I have
to try and make it happen."
797
00:42:42,896 --> 00:42:44,931
And with varying degrees of success,
798
00:42:45,068 --> 00:42:47,103
I guess it depends on
who he's working with,
799
00:42:47,241 --> 00:42:48,965
where he is working and so on.
800
00:42:49,103 --> 00:42:51,068
He asked me what's my favorite song.
801
00:42:51,206 --> 00:42:53,965
And I said, "Oh, it
changes on a daily basis,
802
00:42:54,103 --> 00:42:58,310
but the most supreme
example of your work for me
803
00:42:58,448 --> 00:43:00,620
is "Sea of Teeth" from
"It's a Wonderful Life."
804
00:43:00,758 --> 00:43:02,137
It's just poetic.
805
00:43:02,275 --> 00:43:06,586
It's not so much about death
for a change, but supreme love.
806
00:43:06,724 --> 00:43:10,655
And he just went, "Great,
that's my favorite song too,"
807
00:43:10,793 --> 00:43:12,448
and he explained that that
808
00:43:12,586 --> 00:43:14,758
is because the song that
he heard in his head,
809
00:43:14,896 --> 00:43:16,689
he nailed down.
810
00:43:16,827 --> 00:43:18,448
That was the closest he got
811
00:43:18,586 --> 00:43:22,586
to nailing down the sounds
he heard in his head.
812
00:43:56,206 --> 00:44:01,206
[projector clicking]
[typewriter clicking]
813
00:44:03,793 --> 00:44:07,379
["Maxine" by Sparklehorse]
814
00:44:16,965 --> 00:44:18,862
- [Narrator] To a limb of gauzy clouds,
815
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,103
breathe ancient dark slopes,
816
00:44:21,241 --> 00:44:23,827
gradually yielding to the day.
817
00:44:23,965 --> 00:44:25,655
You made an escape to
the Southern Highlands
818
00:44:25,793 --> 00:44:27,758
of the Great Smoky Mountains,
819
00:44:27,896 --> 00:44:30,448
a place of communion with salamanders,
820
00:44:30,586 --> 00:44:32,241
but also of hungry ghosts.
821
00:44:32,379 --> 00:44:34,482
["Maxine" by Sparklehorse continues]
822
00:44:34,620 --> 00:44:36,758
For all your previous
inventive propulsions
823
00:44:36,896 --> 00:44:40,379
and gasoline horsies and
the company's anticipation
824
00:44:40,517 --> 00:44:42,586
of your next Sparklehorse album,
825
00:44:42,724 --> 00:44:45,586
you hadn't escaped the mines at all.
826
00:44:45,724 --> 00:44:47,586
- I've lived in New York and Los Angeles,
827
00:44:47,724 --> 00:44:50,344
and when I returned to the South,
828
00:44:52,482 --> 00:44:57,034
I just decided that I wanted
to live in the country, so...
829
00:44:57,172 --> 00:44:58,241
[birds chirping]
830
00:44:58,379 --> 00:45:00,379
And Virginia was fairly isolated,
831
00:45:00,517 --> 00:45:03,310
and where I've moved to now is...
832
00:45:04,517 --> 00:45:07,793
Literally, it's on top of a
mountain in the Smoky Mountains
833
00:45:07,931 --> 00:45:10,586
in North Carolina, and it's...
834
00:45:10,724 --> 00:45:13,827
I mean, it's so high up that the clouds
835
00:45:13,965 --> 00:45:15,689
are sometimes under me.
836
00:45:16,931 --> 00:45:18,448
And there's bears,
837
00:45:19,413 --> 00:45:22,000
and I've actually been trapped
in the house by a bear.
838
00:45:22,137 --> 00:45:23,793
One time I couldn't go to my studio,
839
00:45:23,931 --> 00:45:26,448
'cause there was a bear in my truck.
840
00:45:26,586 --> 00:45:30,344
["Mountains" by Sparklehorse]
841
00:45:36,620 --> 00:45:41,379
"Once I was a big old bear"
842
00:45:41,517 --> 00:45:46,517
"Reigning blows on sparkly snares"
843
00:45:46,655 --> 00:45:50,310
"In the woods after the snow"
844
00:45:50,448 --> 00:45:53,586
"The white noise witch,
her hammer's cold"
845
00:45:53,724 --> 00:45:55,448
- I mean, North Carolina,
it's a big state.
846
00:45:55,586 --> 00:45:58,137
It's the southern, southern
tip in the Smoky Mountains,
847
00:45:58,275 --> 00:45:59,793
right on the border of Georgia,
848
00:45:59,931 --> 00:46:01,931
about two hours from Asheville, which...
849
00:46:02,068 --> 00:46:03,310
Asheville's already in
the middle of nowhere,
850
00:46:03,448 --> 00:46:07,413
but it's the only airport
in western North Carolina.
851
00:46:07,551 --> 00:46:08,586
So you fly into Asheville,
852
00:46:08,724 --> 00:46:10,068
Theresa, his wife came and picked me up,
853
00:46:10,206 --> 00:46:12,793
and you drive through the
most beautiful mountain range
854
00:46:12,931 --> 00:46:14,724
you've ever seen in your life.
855
00:46:14,862 --> 00:46:17,137
And he lived up in these mountains,
856
00:46:17,275 --> 00:46:18,965
I mean, he literally lived
in the middle of nowhere.
857
00:46:19,103 --> 00:46:20,896
I mean, it took...
858
00:46:21,034 --> 00:46:23,068
Yeah, it was a trek to
get there, you know?
859
00:46:23,206 --> 00:46:24,620
You live with bears and rattlesnakes.
860
00:46:24,758 --> 00:46:29,413
- Well, the times that I was
ever in the cabin with Mark
861
00:46:31,724 --> 00:46:35,551
were social times, and
socializing with Mark,
862
00:46:38,758 --> 00:46:42,448
it was just as sublime as
listening to his music,
863
00:46:42,586 --> 00:46:45,862
in other ways.
[birds chirping]
864
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,482
Listening to LPs like
crazy, old random selections
865
00:46:50,620 --> 00:46:53,793
from his album collection was among...
866
00:46:57,137 --> 00:46:59,448
Just really, the more
fun moments of my life.
867
00:46:59,586 --> 00:47:01,551
[birds chirping]
868
00:47:01,689 --> 00:47:03,862
- It seemed like in
Virginia that, you know,
869
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,758
I don't know if it was a
product of the world changing,
870
00:47:06,896 --> 00:47:11,310
but it seemed like the land
was drying up a little bit.
871
00:47:11,448 --> 00:47:14,413
And this spot in North Carolina
872
00:47:14,551 --> 00:47:17,206
was almost this valley that was untouched.
873
00:47:17,344 --> 00:47:19,689
And it almost had its own...
874
00:47:20,551 --> 00:47:23,655
Well, I guess it sort of does
have its own weather system,
875
00:47:23,793 --> 00:47:28,275
where it rains almost every
day, but then it'll stop,
876
00:47:29,172 --> 00:47:30,827
the sun will come out
877
00:47:30,965 --> 00:47:34,068
and you can just sort of smell the soil.
878
00:47:34,206 --> 00:47:35,586
And there's lots of water.
[birds chirping]
879
00:47:35,724 --> 00:47:37,689
There's creeks and rivers everywhere.
880
00:47:37,827 --> 00:47:39,862
And you know, it's nice,
881
00:47:41,586 --> 00:47:43,586
but it can be dangerous too,
882
00:47:43,724 --> 00:47:47,724
'cause sometimes I get
to where I don't come off
883
00:47:48,620 --> 00:47:51,620
the top of the mountain
for too long, you know?
884
00:47:51,758 --> 00:47:55,137
I get to where I just don't want...
885
00:47:55,275 --> 00:47:56,931
I don't wanna leave.
886
00:47:58,172 --> 00:48:01,448
And that's one of the
reasons it took five years
887
00:48:01,586 --> 00:48:04,862
between "It's a Wonderful
Life" and this record.
888
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,241
- [Narrator] From a hidden storefront
889
00:48:06,379 --> 00:48:08,275
in the tiny North Carolina town,
890
00:48:08,413 --> 00:48:11,275
a cavern gleaning veins of lyricism
891
00:48:11,413 --> 00:48:14,172
from water-worn, tired mountains
892
00:48:14,310 --> 00:48:17,620
existing long before words
on the mouths of man.
893
00:48:17,758 --> 00:48:20,689
The outside world was
the blinding overburden
894
00:48:20,827 --> 00:48:24,103
where you'd tipple and haunt
your way with the obvious mark
895
00:48:24,241 --> 00:48:26,896
of one who'd gone as dark
as any had gone before.
896
00:48:27,034 --> 00:48:28,517
["Return to Me" by Sparklehorse]
897
00:48:28,655 --> 00:48:30,586
Your haulage was stunning gems,
898
00:48:30,724 --> 00:48:34,310
whole worlds sourced from unsung rooms,
899
00:48:34,448 --> 00:48:38,551
amalgams of unreachable ore
from beneath the tonnage.
900
00:48:38,689 --> 00:48:41,241
Ionically charged by the Appalachians,
901
00:48:41,379 --> 00:48:44,379
this wide-ranging LP would comprise
902
00:48:44,517 --> 00:48:47,724
your most lyrical and romantic effort yet,
903
00:48:47,862 --> 00:48:50,620
music indeed dreamt for light years
904
00:48:50,758 --> 00:48:52,896
in the belly of a mountain.
905
00:48:53,827 --> 00:48:56,068
"With tears from me"
906
00:48:56,206 --> 00:48:58,482
- You know, like anyone
who gets on a stage
907
00:48:58,620 --> 00:48:59,448
and performs their music,
908
00:48:59,586 --> 00:49:02,724
they have a desire to be acknowledged.
909
00:49:05,103 --> 00:49:07,827
At the same time, he's still
making music for himself.
910
00:49:07,965 --> 00:49:10,103
He wasn't making it for anyone else, so...
911
00:49:10,241 --> 00:49:13,862
I think, you know, he also
was a great producer as well,
912
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,137
and he was also involved
913
00:49:15,275 --> 00:49:18,310
in so many different little projects.
914
00:49:19,758 --> 00:49:24,379
So he kept himself busy, probably
'cause he had to, I think.
915
00:49:24,517 --> 00:49:28,379
- So you're at 2 Locust Street
in Andrews, North Carolina,
916
00:49:28,517 --> 00:49:32,068
where you get the sort
of Bavarian revival,
917
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,241
tourist-geared vernacular architecture.
918
00:49:41,068 --> 00:49:44,517
This door is the door of Static King.
919
00:49:44,655 --> 00:49:45,896
Behind me is
920
00:49:46,034 --> 00:49:49,758
where Mark's sort of
mechanic's tinker shop was.
921
00:49:53,344 --> 00:49:56,931
It was like stepping
into something like LA,
922
00:49:57,068 --> 00:50:01,482
or some fantastic wonderland
to step into his studio.
923
00:50:03,379 --> 00:50:04,724
It was like...
924
00:50:04,862 --> 00:50:08,344
I've often called him sort
of the backwoods Willy Wonka.
925
00:50:08,482 --> 00:50:11,137
[traffic whooshing]
926
00:50:11,275 --> 00:50:13,000
- You know, for a while,
in the last five years,
927
00:50:13,137 --> 00:50:14,172
I wasn't really producing much,
928
00:50:14,310 --> 00:50:16,689
so people, including my manager,
929
00:50:16,827 --> 00:50:20,482
would send me CDs that I think, you know,
930
00:50:20,620 --> 00:50:22,137
they thought might be inspiring,
931
00:50:22,275 --> 00:50:25,896
or someone that I might
want to collaborate with.
932
00:50:26,034 --> 00:50:28,827
And she sent me "The Grey Album,"
933
00:50:30,724 --> 00:50:32,413
and I just loved that, you know?
934
00:50:32,551 --> 00:50:35,448
'Cause I was listening to a
lot of Beatles at the time,
935
00:50:35,586 --> 00:50:40,068
and I was huge Beatles
fan and I liked Jay-Z too,
936
00:50:40,206 --> 00:50:41,896
so it was a great...
937
00:50:42,827 --> 00:50:46,586
You know, I got that at the perfect time.
938
00:50:46,724 --> 00:50:49,103
- [Narrator] While the
mountain range insulated you,
939
00:50:49,241 --> 00:50:51,620
the human world around
you left you wanting,
940
00:50:51,758 --> 00:50:54,379
and you had to import your peers.
941
00:50:54,517 --> 00:50:58,586
With spotty cell phone service
and an often broken laptop,
942
00:50:58,724 --> 00:51:01,482
you were painfully
propagating your fourth album,
943
00:51:01,620 --> 00:51:03,724
while at once managing
to grow your alliance
944
00:51:03,862 --> 00:51:06,862
with Brian Burton, AKA Danger Mouse.
945
00:51:08,448 --> 00:51:10,068
He'd come from LA to support you
946
00:51:10,206 --> 00:51:12,689
and make propitious
contributions to the effort
947
00:51:12,827 --> 00:51:14,379
in your mountain studio,
948
00:51:14,517 --> 00:51:16,655
where you both bought piles of LPs
949
00:51:16,793 --> 00:51:20,241
at one of the most remote
record shops in the nation.
950
00:51:20,379 --> 00:51:23,620
But the birth of these dreams
would be difficult at best.
951
00:51:23,758 --> 00:51:25,586
Sometimes sleeping in the dank studio
952
00:51:25,724 --> 00:51:28,137
on a decaying velvet sofa,
953
00:51:28,275 --> 00:51:30,344
you were indeed dealing in death,
954
00:51:30,482 --> 00:51:34,275
birth and every love and loss in between.
955
00:51:34,413 --> 00:51:37,793
- There was one time I was
signed with Virgin Records,
956
00:51:37,931 --> 00:51:40,206
and I had written this
song when I was very young
957
00:51:40,344 --> 00:51:41,724
and they wanted me to put it on the album,
958
00:51:41,862 --> 00:51:42,965
'cause they thought it was a single,
959
00:51:43,103 --> 00:51:45,310
and I felt really uncomfortable about it.
960
00:51:45,448 --> 00:51:47,275
And I needed somebody to back me up,
961
00:51:47,413 --> 00:51:49,482
because they were giving
me a lot of grief.
962
00:51:49,620 --> 00:51:52,517
And I rang Mark up, and I was just saying,
963
00:51:52,655 --> 00:51:53,724
"You know what, they're trying to get me
964
00:51:53,862 --> 00:51:55,586
to put this song on
the album and you know,
965
00:51:55,724 --> 00:51:57,965
I don't relate to it
anymore and it's whatever."
966
00:51:58,103 --> 00:52:00,275
And he said, "You know, you caught me.
967
00:52:00,413 --> 00:52:03,620
I'm trying to fix the brakes on my car
968
00:52:03,758 --> 00:52:06,724
and I can't afford to fix them.
969
00:52:06,862 --> 00:52:10,482
So you wrote that song
at one point in your life
970
00:52:10,620 --> 00:52:12,137
and it meant something to you.
971
00:52:12,275 --> 00:52:15,862
So put it on the bloody
album, you know, stand by...
972
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:16,758
It's your song.
973
00:52:16,896 --> 00:52:18,241
No one forced you to write it.
974
00:52:18,379 --> 00:52:22,103
You wrote that song, so
have a little bit of respect
975
00:52:22,241 --> 00:52:25,586
for your music, because,"
you know, he goes,
976
00:52:25,724 --> 00:52:28,517
"When I was younger, I said
no to a lot of things."
977
00:52:28,655 --> 00:52:30,413
"And for songs that I
had written," he goes,
978
00:52:30,551 --> 00:52:34,034
"and today I can't afford to
fix the brakes on my car."
979
00:52:34,172 --> 00:52:35,931
- It's still hard to make ends meet,
980
00:52:36,068 --> 00:52:39,000
you know, financially, sometimes.
981
00:52:39,137 --> 00:52:40,931
And that's what I think of,
982
00:52:41,068 --> 00:52:43,965
and I wish that I'd sold
more records in America,
983
00:52:44,103 --> 00:52:47,310
or just sold more records in general,
984
00:52:47,448 --> 00:52:50,103
just to make, you know...
985
00:52:50,241 --> 00:52:52,862
I've had these boots now for three years.
986
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:54,413
I'd like to... [laughs]
987
00:52:54,551 --> 00:52:57,275
It's about time to get
a new pair of Red Wings.
988
00:52:57,413 --> 00:53:01,344
[somber classical music]
989
00:53:01,482 --> 00:53:04,896
- [Angela] I think that he was, in part,
990
00:53:06,448 --> 00:53:08,793
a casualty of the things that are wrong
991
00:53:08,931 --> 00:53:11,068
with the music industry.
992
00:53:11,206 --> 00:53:13,655
I resent the industry.
993
00:53:13,793 --> 00:53:16,965
- I can't imagine how someone would...
994
00:53:18,793 --> 00:53:20,827
And I'm saying this
from a place of sympathy
995
00:53:20,965 --> 00:53:22,068
at a record label,
996
00:53:22,206 --> 00:53:25,896
how to best present a
band like Sparklehorse.
997
00:53:26,034 --> 00:53:27,310
How do you...
998
00:53:27,448 --> 00:53:29,482
I mean, that's always been
a problem for us as well.
999
00:53:29,620 --> 00:53:31,655
It's like, you're doing
something that's...
1000
00:53:31,793 --> 00:53:33,896
It's just you, it's just,
you know, it's Mark and Scott
1001
00:53:34,034 --> 00:53:34,793
and it's...
1002
00:53:34,931 --> 00:53:36,310
[somber classical music continues]
1003
00:53:36,448 --> 00:53:39,931
There isn't a whole lot of
room there to sparkle that up,
1004
00:53:40,068 --> 00:53:43,310
to make it more appealing
and to market it.
1005
00:53:43,448 --> 00:53:45,137
And yet, people really enjoy it.
1006
00:53:45,275 --> 00:53:48,965
- I don't get the sense
that he craved fame.
1007
00:53:51,241 --> 00:53:53,758
I think he deserved a lot more
1008
00:53:54,655 --> 00:53:57,000
than he got in his lifetime,
1009
00:53:58,413 --> 00:54:00,896
you know, perhaps financially
1010
00:54:04,344 --> 00:54:07,310
and just overall recognition.
1011
00:54:07,448 --> 00:54:09,000
- I remember being utterly shocked
1012
00:54:09,137 --> 00:54:11,620
that someone that had
created these four albums
1013
00:54:11,758 --> 00:54:13,931
lived in a four-room cabin
1014
00:54:16,517 --> 00:54:20,689
hanging off the side of
the mountain, you know?
1015
00:54:20,827 --> 00:54:24,172
And I remember being shocked that his cars
1016
00:54:24,310 --> 00:54:26,689
were often in a state of disrepair
1017
00:54:26,827 --> 00:54:29,000
and that he had to do tours
1018
00:54:33,172 --> 00:54:37,172
that he probably wasn't
physically up to doing at times,
1019
00:54:37,310 --> 00:54:39,000
just because it would...
1020
00:54:39,137 --> 00:54:41,862
You know, he would get
some decent pay for it.
1021
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:43,310
[somber classical music continues]
1022
00:54:43,448 --> 00:54:45,724
- He talks a lot about
being filled with things
1023
00:54:45,862 --> 00:54:47,517
that are either dead,
1024
00:54:47,655 --> 00:54:51,724
or things that he can't
get out of him, you know?
1025
00:54:53,517 --> 00:54:55,896
And it's really beautiful
and it's intense.
1026
00:54:56,034 --> 00:54:57,896
And Mark was...
1027
00:54:58,034 --> 00:54:59,758
He was beautiful and he was intense
1028
00:54:59,896 --> 00:55:01,000
and he was...
1029
00:55:01,137 --> 00:55:03,758
A lot of people, I feel,
in life have, you know,
1030
00:55:03,896 --> 00:55:07,482
a wall to protect themselves,
and he never had that.
1031
00:55:07,620 --> 00:55:09,793
And I think sometimes
it's the purest people
1032
00:55:09,931 --> 00:55:10,793
that get led astray.
1033
00:55:10,931 --> 00:55:13,482
- You know, he was so sensitive, God!
1034
00:55:13,620 --> 00:55:15,379
I mean, I've never met anyone...
1035
00:55:15,517 --> 00:55:18,137
Almost never met anyone
as sensitive as him.
1036
00:55:18,275 --> 00:55:20,206
- I got taken to a child psychiatrist,
1037
00:55:20,344 --> 00:55:21,586
'cause I would freak out every time
1038
00:55:21,724 --> 00:55:24,344
I got taken to get my hair cut.
1039
00:55:25,965 --> 00:55:29,137
So at one point, they
locked me in the car,
1040
00:55:29,275 --> 00:55:31,310
and I kicked the windows out of the car,
1041
00:55:31,448 --> 00:55:34,000
and my parents took me
to a child psychiatrist.
1042
00:55:34,137 --> 00:55:36,206
And I was like, "I just
wanna have long hair
1043
00:55:36,344 --> 00:55:38,793
like Alice Cooper, you know?"
1044
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,103
["Revenge feat. The Flaming
Lips" by Sparklehorse]
1045
00:55:46,241 --> 00:55:50,275
"Pain"
1046
00:55:50,413 --> 00:55:55,413
"I guess it's a matter of sensation"
1047
00:55:59,034 --> 00:56:01,724
"But somehow"
1048
00:56:01,862 --> 00:56:06,172
"You have a way of avoiding it all"
1049
00:56:12,586 --> 00:56:15,827
"In my mind"
1050
00:56:15,965 --> 00:56:20,827
"I have shot you and stabbed
you through your heart"
1051
00:56:25,689 --> 00:56:30,689
"I just didn't understand"
1052
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,793
"The ricochet is the second"
1053
00:56:37,344 --> 00:56:39,034
- [Narrator] In 2009,
1054
00:56:39,172 --> 00:56:41,137
Sparklehorse and Danger Mouse embarked
1055
00:56:41,275 --> 00:56:44,344
on an ambitious project
to fuse their talents
1056
00:56:44,482 --> 00:56:46,551
with songs portrayed by a handpicked array
1057
00:56:46,689 --> 00:56:48,137
of lead vocalists.
1058
00:56:49,965 --> 00:56:52,655
It would become, in Mark's time,
1059
00:56:52,793 --> 00:56:56,068
the last Sparklehorse album
to see the light of day,
1060
00:56:56,206 --> 00:56:57,620
"Dark Night of the Soul."
1061
00:56:57,758 --> 00:57:00,137
["Little Girl" by Danger
Mouse and Sparklehorse]
1062
00:57:00,275 --> 00:57:02,793
- We have some tracks
that we're working on,
1063
00:57:02,931 --> 00:57:05,551
and I would like for it to
have different vocalists,
1064
00:57:05,689 --> 00:57:10,241
if I could, almost like R and
B records and hip-hop records
1065
00:57:10,379 --> 00:57:14,724
often have different guest
lead vocalists for songs.
1066
00:57:16,482 --> 00:57:18,827
- I found out that him and Brian,
1067
00:57:18,965 --> 00:57:21,586
Danger Mouse, were
making an album together,
1068
00:57:21,724 --> 00:57:23,758
and I actually hung out with Brian.
1069
00:57:23,896 --> 00:57:25,310
["Jaykub" by Danger
Mouse and Sparklehorse]
1070
00:57:25,448 --> 00:57:28,379
It turns out that he
was a big Grandaddy fan,
1071
00:57:28,517 --> 00:57:30,206
which was really cool.
1072
00:57:30,344 --> 00:57:34,275
The idea was to ask all
these different singers
1073
00:57:35,275 --> 00:57:39,137
and songwriters to help
contribute, and I was asked,
1074
00:57:39,275 --> 00:57:42,172
and by some weird stroke of luck,
1075
00:57:42,310 --> 00:57:43,931
I got two songs on the album.
1076
00:57:44,068 --> 00:57:46,827
["Jaykub" by Danger Mouse
and Sparklehorse continues]
1077
00:57:46,965 --> 00:57:49,724
"Jaykub"
1078
00:57:49,862 --> 00:57:53,379
"It's time for you to wake up"
1079
00:57:53,517 --> 00:57:58,448
"And accept your awards"
1080
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:04,758
"Inside"
1081
00:58:04,896 --> 00:58:05,655
- [Narrator] In this project,
1082
00:58:05,793 --> 00:58:07,000
you found sweet relief
1083
00:58:07,137 --> 00:58:10,344
in avoiding the chore of
lead vocals altogether,
1084
00:58:10,482 --> 00:58:12,827
which would also allow you to
flex your perspective range
1085
00:58:12,965 --> 00:58:14,517
as a songwriter,
1086
00:58:14,655 --> 00:58:17,517
by appointing the singers
as if by casting call.
1087
00:58:17,655 --> 00:58:20,724
And not only would your
mutual hero, David Lynch,
1088
00:58:20,862 --> 00:58:22,482
provide the original photography
1089
00:58:22,620 --> 00:58:25,034
for the limited edition book package,
1090
00:58:25,172 --> 00:58:28,034
he'd also make his vocal
debut on two tracks.
1091
00:58:28,172 --> 00:58:33,103
["Dark Night of the Soul" by
Danger Mouse and Sparklehorse]
1092
00:58:36,275 --> 00:58:38,620
"All alone"
1093
00:58:39,586 --> 00:58:41,931
- We were at the Static King,
1094
00:58:42,068 --> 00:58:46,137
and Mark surprised us
with David Lynch mixes
1095
00:58:46,275 --> 00:58:48,206
coming out of his gear.
1096
00:58:52,965 --> 00:58:56,655
And he said, "Do you know who this is?"
1097
00:58:56,793 --> 00:59:00,448
And Mark said, "Listen, listen to this.
1098
00:59:00,586 --> 00:59:02,482
And it was "Star Eyes"
1099
00:59:04,172 --> 00:59:06,965
and it was just the most beautiful thing,
1100
00:59:07,103 --> 00:59:11,827
and all of us loving David
Lynch to the extent we did,
1101
00:59:11,965 --> 00:59:14,793
and it's just that I could tell
it's a really hopeful thing
1102
00:59:14,931 --> 00:59:18,379
for Mark, because he was seeking
David Lynch's mentorship.
1103
00:59:18,517 --> 00:59:23,551
["Star Eyes feat. David Lynch"
by Danger Mouse/Sparklehorse]
1104
00:59:24,586 --> 00:59:27,689
- He came a couple of
times here to the studio.
1105
00:59:27,827 --> 00:59:29,758
He sat right in that chair right there.
1106
00:59:29,896 --> 00:59:33,103
And I lived in Virginia for four years.
1107
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,965
I went to high school in Virginia.
1108
00:59:38,103 --> 00:59:42,206
Dean, who is the engineer
here, lived in Virginia,
1109
00:59:42,344 --> 00:59:45,758
grew up in Virginia and
Sparklehorse's in Virginia.
1110
00:59:45,896 --> 00:59:49,620
And we would talk, and
I would drink red wine
1111
00:59:51,310 --> 00:59:55,517
and Sparklehorse, I forget
what kinda drink he had,
1112
00:59:55,655 --> 00:59:59,310
but it was more like a
bourbon or a whiskey.
1113
01:00:00,379 --> 01:00:04,482
- In all my years there,
I never saw him...
1114
01:00:04,620 --> 01:00:07,275
Like, he really bonded with Mark
1115
01:00:09,034 --> 01:00:12,068
in his brief, short amount
of time that he knew him.
1116
01:00:12,206 --> 01:00:16,241
Like, just the way he
looked and talked with Mark
1117
01:00:17,172 --> 01:00:19,862
was unlike anyone else I'd seen,
1118
01:00:21,620 --> 01:00:26,413
And I felt like they were
both cut from a similar cloth,
1119
01:00:26,551 --> 01:00:28,068
but there was something about Mark
1120
01:00:28,206 --> 01:00:32,241
that David really instantly
went from zero to 100
1121
01:00:33,862 --> 01:00:38,620
on the friend level, because
he just, either A, got Mark,
1122
01:00:39,482 --> 01:00:43,517
liked him, understood him
and wanted to help him...
1123
01:00:43,655 --> 01:00:45,448
- There's a few people like this,
1124
01:00:45,586 --> 01:00:48,172
where you don't really need to talk.
1125
01:00:48,310 --> 01:00:51,689
You just sit and then something comes up
1126
01:00:51,827 --> 01:00:53,827
and you talk about things.
1127
01:00:53,965 --> 01:00:56,241
And because Dean was here,
1128
01:00:56,379 --> 01:00:59,000
we talked a lot about equipment
1129
01:01:00,482 --> 01:01:04,551
and then we'd talk about
life in general, and...
1130
01:01:05,551 --> 01:01:08,482
But he was just so great to sit with
1131
01:01:08,620 --> 01:01:10,482
and have a drink with.
1132
01:01:12,551 --> 01:01:14,620
And Sparklehorse hadn't
been doing anything,
1133
01:01:14,758 --> 01:01:17,551
so Danger Mouse wanted to go out
1134
01:01:17,689 --> 01:01:20,620
and, you know, kinda
light a fire under him.
1135
01:01:20,758 --> 01:01:24,137
And he wanted me to do still photographs.
1136
01:01:26,275 --> 01:01:28,206
Not a video, but stills.
1137
01:01:28,344 --> 01:01:30,344
And I thought that was a cool concept.
1138
01:01:30,482 --> 01:01:32,793
He got me all these tracks and I said,
1139
01:01:32,931 --> 01:01:36,931
"If I listen to it and I
get ideas for pictures,
1140
01:01:38,655 --> 01:01:40,034
then we'll go."
1141
01:01:40,172 --> 01:01:42,241
- It was like a gallery show
where they were premiering,
1142
01:01:42,379 --> 01:01:46,551
you know, the photos, they
had the music on loop.
1143
01:01:48,448 --> 01:01:51,206
It was at Michael Kohn Gallery in LA.
1144
01:01:51,344 --> 01:01:52,758
It's sort of really indicative
1145
01:01:52,896 --> 01:01:54,724
of the kind of person he was,
1146
01:01:54,862 --> 01:01:58,827
'cause here is this pretty
big, you know, unveiling
1147
01:01:58,965 --> 01:02:02,310
of this, you know, multifaceted work
1148
01:02:02,448 --> 01:02:04,620
with kind of thick imagery
1149
01:02:05,793 --> 01:02:08,103
and amazing, cinematic songs
1150
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,724
from artists all over the map
1151
01:02:12,862 --> 01:02:16,103
in terms of the recording industry.
1152
01:02:16,241 --> 01:02:20,241
And at the party, there
was, like, Hollywood types.
1153
01:02:20,379 --> 01:02:21,896
I mean, I think Rick Rubin was there,
1154
01:02:22,034 --> 01:02:23,862
Flea, Crispin Glover,
1155
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:27,448
like just bizarre tapestry of individuals.
1156
01:02:27,586 --> 01:02:30,827
But this whole party's going
on and I stepped outside,
1157
01:02:30,965 --> 01:02:34,137
and it's Mark sitting
by himself on the curb,
1158
01:02:34,275 --> 01:02:37,172
you know, like completely
fish out of water,
1159
01:02:37,310 --> 01:02:40,310
uncomfortable, like, anxiety-ridden.
1160
01:02:42,068 --> 01:02:44,482
And he's just sitting there by himself.
1161
01:02:44,620 --> 01:02:48,206
- You know, you felt this vulnerability
1162
01:02:48,344 --> 01:02:52,827
and not a lot of self-worth,
you know, feeling, and...
1163
01:02:57,517 --> 01:02:58,931
Which was really sad.
1164
01:02:59,068 --> 01:03:03,965
["Star Eyes feat. David Lynch"
by Danger Mouse/Sparklehorse]
1165
01:03:06,068 --> 01:03:09,310
"Mine"
1166
01:03:09,448 --> 01:03:11,379
"Star"
1167
01:03:12,931 --> 01:03:14,896
- The ringtone is the opening measure
1168
01:03:15,034 --> 01:03:17,137
of Led Zeppelin's "Kashmir."
1169
01:03:17,275 --> 01:03:19,586
It's a call from Brian Burton.
1170
01:03:20,827 --> 01:03:22,758
The collaboration with
Danger Mouse and Lynch
1171
01:03:22,896 --> 01:03:25,379
wasn't going to be released as planned,
1172
01:03:25,517 --> 01:03:27,758
due to a dispute with EMI.
1173
01:03:27,896 --> 01:03:31,000
Burton decided to go ahead
and release it as a CD
1174
01:03:31,137 --> 01:03:34,862
with no content, a statement,
a thumb in the eye,
1175
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:38,965
a defiant mirror held up
to the music industry.
1176
01:03:39,103 --> 01:03:41,551
Your respect for Brian so immense,
1177
01:03:41,689 --> 01:03:44,275
you responded with Pluck.
1178
01:03:44,413 --> 01:03:46,862
- [Brian] You know, there's
a beautiful companion piece,
1179
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:48,724
the book which came out,
1180
01:03:48,862 --> 01:03:50,448
and when that originally came out,
1181
01:03:50,586 --> 01:03:54,310
it was accompanied by two CD-Rs, correct?
1182
01:03:54,448 --> 01:03:56,034
Like, blank discs.
1183
01:03:56,172 --> 01:03:57,344
There was one...
1184
01:03:57,482 --> 01:04:00,517
There was one CD-R that
came in in the back of it.
1185
01:04:00,655 --> 01:04:02,724
You know, I can't get into
too many of the details
1186
01:04:02,862 --> 01:04:05,275
about the legalities of
exactly what happened,
1187
01:04:05,413 --> 01:04:10,034
but you know, since there
were two very strong elements,
1188
01:04:11,103 --> 01:04:13,551
the goal would've been
1189
01:04:13,689 --> 01:04:16,931
to have them both
coincide with each other,
1190
01:04:17,068 --> 01:04:21,000
both through a book and
also through a gallery,
1191
01:04:21,137 --> 01:04:25,137
which is something that
we eventually put together
1192
01:04:25,275 --> 01:04:26,758
and got to show.
1193
01:04:26,896 --> 01:04:30,655
It just happened that
the music being released
1194
01:04:30,793 --> 01:04:33,551
and the book and the gallery thing
1195
01:04:33,689 --> 01:04:36,206
didn't work out in the right time.
1196
01:04:36,344 --> 01:04:38,068
They didn't, you know,
for a lot of reasons.
1197
01:04:38,206 --> 01:04:39,482
I wish they had,
1198
01:04:39,620 --> 01:04:42,620
and through my wishing they had,
1199
01:04:42,758 --> 01:04:47,379
I guess that's why the CD-R
was in there and was blank.
1200
01:04:48,413 --> 01:04:52,137
You know, that's about as
much as I can say, you know?
1201
01:04:52,275 --> 01:04:54,965
We had a goal, we didn't
quite get there...
1202
01:04:55,103 --> 01:04:56,758
- [Narrator] Getting
signed to Anti- records
1203
01:04:56,896 --> 01:04:59,551
to record your own next album,
1204
01:04:59,689 --> 01:05:00,931
occasionally gigging,
1205
01:05:01,068 --> 01:05:04,206
travels beyond the mountains
became more frequent,
1206
01:05:04,344 --> 01:05:07,000
traversing the Great Smokys on your bike,
1207
01:05:07,137 --> 01:05:09,275
or in your old black Benz,
1208
01:05:09,413 --> 01:05:10,862
toward Knoxville.
1209
01:05:12,655 --> 01:05:14,793
Unmooring from your marriage,
1210
01:05:14,931 --> 01:05:16,827
separation growing,
1211
01:05:16,965 --> 01:05:19,965
soon the riveting miles
would begin to fray
1212
01:05:20,103 --> 01:05:21,758
over the jutting and yawning cracks
1213
01:05:21,896 --> 01:05:25,793
between your mountain cabin
and a new life in Knoxville.
1214
01:05:25,931 --> 01:05:29,862
[ominous bell ringing]
[static crackling]
1215
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:34,827
The Christmas-time loss of
Vic Chesnutt was a deep blow,
1216
01:05:34,965 --> 01:05:38,103
your affinity for him, almost religious.
1217
01:05:38,241 --> 01:05:39,448
His songwriting,
1218
01:05:39,586 --> 01:05:43,172
your mutual and
not-too-dissimilar afflictions.
1219
01:05:43,310 --> 01:05:46,172
You said as long as he
could do it, you could.
1220
01:05:46,310 --> 01:05:47,517
But Vic had announced to the world
1221
01:05:47,655 --> 01:05:51,517
that autumn that the
hospitals, the pain, the bills,
1222
01:05:51,655 --> 01:05:53,517
all of it was too much.
1223
01:05:53,655 --> 01:05:55,448
And not a week into that faded winter,
1224
01:05:55,586 --> 01:05:58,241
he would succeed in taking his life.
1225
01:05:58,379 --> 01:06:01,206
- I have a house in Athens, Georgia,
1226
01:06:01,344 --> 01:06:02,517
and he's my...
1227
01:06:04,413 --> 01:06:06,103
You know, his wife still lives behind me.
1228
01:06:06,241 --> 01:06:09,551
He lived behind me when Vic died.
1229
01:06:09,689 --> 01:06:11,034
I saw them take him out to...
1230
01:06:11,172 --> 01:06:12,068
When he was dying,
1231
01:06:12,206 --> 01:06:15,241
I saw them take him out to the ambulance.
1232
01:06:15,379 --> 01:06:18,034
The first thing I knew that I had to do
1233
01:06:18,172 --> 01:06:20,758
was to call Mark and tell him.
1234
01:06:21,724 --> 01:06:24,413
And I knew he wasn't gonna take it well.
1235
01:06:24,551 --> 01:06:27,379
- He was very strong and
didn't really open up to me
1236
01:06:27,517 --> 01:06:31,000
on the phone about Vic
and what had happened,
1237
01:06:31,137 --> 01:06:35,172
but he did say to me that,
"I always felt all right
1238
01:06:35,310 --> 01:06:36,827
as long as Vic was around."
1239
01:06:36,965 --> 01:06:39,206
And he was able to do it...
1240
01:06:41,896 --> 01:06:44,655
He spoke to that effect about it.
1241
01:06:44,793 --> 01:06:46,586
So it was almost sort of,
1242
01:06:46,724 --> 01:06:51,206
wow, someone that really
helped him with his bearings,
1243
01:06:53,413 --> 01:06:57,482
and the fact that Mark
suffered with chronic pain
1244
01:06:59,517 --> 01:07:03,827
and still wore braces to
be able to walk properly,
1245
01:07:07,206 --> 01:07:08,793
Vic was crucial.
1246
01:07:08,931 --> 01:07:11,620
A crucial friend, you know, an ally.
1247
01:07:11,758 --> 01:07:14,586
- Mark was not in a good place.
1248
01:07:14,724 --> 01:07:16,344
He was out in the Smoky Mountains.
1249
01:07:16,482 --> 01:07:18,931
He was kind of living in his studio.
1250
01:07:19,068 --> 01:07:22,000
He might've been in Knoxville,
I wasn't really sure,
1251
01:07:22,137 --> 01:07:25,000
but I thought maybe he was...
1252
01:07:25,137 --> 01:07:27,896
He was definitely drinking again,
1253
01:07:28,758 --> 01:07:31,586
which he did off and on,
but I wasn't really sure.
1254
01:07:31,724 --> 01:07:34,482
But I thought maybe there
was some drug issues again...
1255
01:07:34,620 --> 01:07:35,517
I didn't really know.
1256
01:07:35,655 --> 01:07:37,758
He just seemed like he was in a bad place.
1257
01:07:37,896 --> 01:07:40,620
- The thing about Mark is that
sometimes he would disappear
1258
01:07:40,758 --> 01:07:42,793
off the radar, you know?
1259
01:07:43,827 --> 01:07:46,103
And I might get in touch
with Scott or someone
1260
01:07:46,241 --> 01:07:48,413
and see how he's going and stuff.
1261
01:07:48,551 --> 01:07:50,034
So I was never that worried.
1262
01:07:50,172 --> 01:07:52,137
You know, he'd bob up again.
1263
01:07:52,275 --> 01:07:53,413
- There was such a strong connection
1264
01:07:53,551 --> 01:07:54,758
between the two of them.
1265
01:07:54,896 --> 01:07:58,448
I really worried when
that broke, when Vic died,
1266
01:07:58,586 --> 01:08:01,413
that this was just gonna
affect Mark in a bad way,
1267
01:08:01,551 --> 01:08:02,689
and it...
1268
01:08:02,827 --> 01:08:04,034
I think, unfortunately,
1269
01:08:04,172 --> 01:08:07,517
it turned out that set him
into a spiral downward.
1270
01:08:07,655 --> 01:08:11,827
["Devil's New" by Sparklehorse]
1271
01:08:20,275 --> 01:08:23,620
["Devil's New" by Sparklehorse continues]
1272
01:08:23,758 --> 01:08:25,482
- [Narrator] When we
put ourselves prostrate
1273
01:08:25,620 --> 01:08:29,758
before our muse, other
things can walk over us.
1274
01:08:29,896 --> 01:08:33,931
When pain and the seeking to
end that pain enter the room,
1275
01:08:34,068 --> 01:08:36,965
we can be cornered, compressed,
1276
01:08:37,103 --> 01:08:39,793
and thus a selection of
limited outcomes are sought.
1277
01:08:39,931 --> 01:08:41,758
["Devil's New" by Sparklehorse continues]
1278
01:08:41,896 --> 01:08:43,896
From within this narrow corridor,
1279
01:08:44,034 --> 01:08:46,689
a life of choosing just the right sound,
1280
01:08:46,827 --> 01:08:48,965
the perfect words for this melody,
1281
01:08:49,103 --> 01:08:53,482
the hook, the economy of a
two-and-a-half-minute pop song,
1282
01:08:53,620 --> 01:08:54,724
a gut punch,
1283
01:08:54,862 --> 01:08:56,275
where determinations are made
1284
01:08:56,413 --> 01:08:59,068
to occupy a land finally devoid
1285
01:08:59,206 --> 01:09:01,724
of the witches of white noise.
1286
01:09:01,862 --> 01:09:03,931
["Devil's New" by Sparklehorse continues]
1287
01:09:04,068 --> 01:09:05,896
We know from the study of ballistics
1288
01:09:06,034 --> 01:09:10,620
that the line of sight is
placed according to bullet rise,
1289
01:09:10,758 --> 01:09:12,758
and that there are
particular circumstances
1290
01:09:12,896 --> 01:09:15,137
when point-blank range makes sense,
1291
01:09:15,275 --> 01:09:17,931
given a host of variables:
1292
01:09:18,068 --> 01:09:20,310
Muzzle velocity, gravity...
1293
01:09:21,586 --> 01:09:24,206
The morning was cold, drear.
1294
01:09:24,344 --> 01:09:25,517
March the 6th.
1295
01:09:27,275 --> 01:09:31,172
Glaring at your friend's
hard-from-behind, disdainful eyes,
1296
01:09:31,310 --> 01:09:34,172
and with a gun beneath your black coat,
1297
01:09:34,310 --> 01:09:37,275
in the middle of uprooting your studio,
1298
01:09:37,413 --> 01:09:41,344
your persistent chest
cold, the imminent divorce,
1299
01:09:41,482 --> 01:09:46,241
the unfastening from your
mountains, the loss of Vic,
1300
01:09:46,379 --> 01:09:49,586
the pain and new album to launch,
1301
01:09:49,724 --> 01:09:51,724
you walked to the alley outside the house
1302
01:09:51,862 --> 01:09:54,344
to do what Frank Stanford did,
1303
01:09:54,482 --> 01:09:56,379
what Breece D'J Pancake did.
1304
01:09:56,517 --> 01:09:58,137
["Devil's New" by Sparklehorse continues]
1305
01:09:58,275 --> 01:10:01,344
And Vic now gone, you sought release,
1306
01:10:04,655 --> 01:10:08,482
a lone robin on a limb beyond
the alley of notifiers.
1307
01:10:08,620 --> 01:10:12,655
With feather vestments,
under a Knoxville skyline,
1308
01:10:12,793 --> 01:10:14,862
you took your own leave.
1309
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,586
["Devil's New" by Sparklehorse continues]
1310
01:10:17,724 --> 01:10:19,758
If you could have at
once embraced the howling
1311
01:10:19,896 --> 01:10:23,551
and filtered the human, the
region held great promise,
1312
01:10:23,689 --> 01:10:27,758
but it was the human howl that
haunted you into the deed.
1313
01:10:27,896 --> 01:10:29,482
What is important about your leave
1314
01:10:29,620 --> 01:10:30,931
is that you showed us all
1315
01:10:31,068 --> 01:10:34,206
that no matter how well a
person appears to be doing,
1316
01:10:34,344 --> 01:10:36,620
or how badly they appear to be doing,
1317
01:10:36,758 --> 01:10:39,137
that you never know when a
tear will appear in the fabric
1318
01:10:39,275 --> 01:10:42,310
that keeps us all on this land together.
1319
01:10:42,448 --> 01:10:45,689
However much a person carries
on and gets on with it,
1320
01:10:45,827 --> 01:10:50,448
you never, ever know when
the last day will arrive,
1321
01:10:50,586 --> 01:10:52,103
that either we learn to treat each other
1322
01:10:52,241 --> 01:10:54,517
like it's the last time
we'll hear their voice,
1323
01:10:54,655 --> 01:10:55,689
or we don't.
1324
01:10:59,655 --> 01:11:03,551
[melancholic classical music]
1325
01:11:13,034 --> 01:11:17,068
[melancholic classical music continues]
1326
01:11:17,206 --> 01:11:20,275
- I guess I find it hard to separate,
1327
01:11:22,034 --> 01:11:24,551
knowing Mark, from the sounds.
1328
01:11:26,034 --> 01:11:30,965
Sometimes when you meet artists
and then hear their music,
1329
01:11:31,206 --> 01:11:33,000
or one comes before the other,
1330
01:11:33,137 --> 01:11:37,206
it's quite easy to dissociate
the sounds you hear
1331
01:11:38,413 --> 01:11:40,965
from the person that you meet.
1332
01:11:41,103 --> 01:11:43,448
That wasn't so easy with Mark.
1333
01:11:43,586 --> 01:11:45,862
[melancholic classical music continues]
1334
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:47,931
Well, a strange thing happened
1335
01:11:48,068 --> 01:11:51,689
that I got a text message
from him and he said,
1336
01:11:51,827 --> 01:11:54,827
"I'm gonna miss you," or "Miss you."
1337
01:11:56,931 --> 01:12:00,862
And this was about a day
before, two days before...
1338
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:02,241
"Miss you."
1339
01:12:02,379 --> 01:12:03,103
"I'm gonna miss you."
1340
01:12:03,241 --> 01:12:04,517
It was one of those two things,
1341
01:12:04,655 --> 01:12:06,137
and I thought it was odd,
'cause I thought maybe...
1342
01:12:06,275 --> 01:12:08,172
Well, maybe he had just sent it,
1343
01:12:08,310 --> 01:12:11,310
it was meant to go to somebody else.
1344
01:12:12,758 --> 01:12:14,310
I don't know.
1345
01:12:14,448 --> 01:12:16,896
So I sort of pushed it
off a bit as just like,
1346
01:12:17,034 --> 01:12:19,965
"Okay, he hit the wrong
button or something."
1347
01:12:20,103 --> 01:12:22,103
[melancholic classical music continues]
1348
01:12:22,241 --> 01:12:25,758
And then I got a call early in the morning
1349
01:12:26,862 --> 01:12:30,827
from someone very far away, and it says,
1350
01:12:30,965 --> 01:12:32,551
"I'm very sorry about your friend."
1351
01:12:32,689 --> 01:12:34,896
And it took a nanosecond
1352
01:12:35,034 --> 01:12:38,000
to know who they were talking about.
1353
01:12:39,586 --> 01:12:41,137
It was less than...
1354
01:12:42,931 --> 01:12:44,620
It was even less than that.
1355
01:12:44,758 --> 01:12:48,103
It was just immediately,
it came to me that Mark,
1356
01:12:48,241 --> 01:12:48,965
it was Mark.
1357
01:12:49,103 --> 01:12:51,310
And when Vic Chesnutt died,
1358
01:12:52,724 --> 01:12:56,379
it really muddied the
waters inside of Mark,
1359
01:12:58,620 --> 01:13:00,517
made 'em all turbulent
and really hard to see.
1360
01:13:00,655 --> 01:13:03,482
And he was quite torn up about it
1361
01:13:05,448 --> 01:13:08,551
in the way that he spoke with me.
1362
01:13:08,689 --> 01:13:11,275
And there was a bit of anger...
1363
01:13:13,551 --> 01:13:15,689
There was more than a bit,
1364
01:13:16,965 --> 01:13:20,000
there was anger there at what he perceived
1365
01:13:20,137 --> 01:13:22,724
was a world sort of gone wrong,
1366
01:13:25,275 --> 01:13:26,965
at least around Vic.
1367
01:13:28,172 --> 01:13:31,655
And he felt very akin to what he perceived
1368
01:13:35,172 --> 01:13:37,206
was Vic's own feeling of helplessness,
1369
01:13:37,344 --> 01:13:41,172
that whatever Mark had
gleaned from that situation,
1370
01:13:41,310 --> 01:13:42,655
from that event,
1371
01:13:44,620 --> 01:13:48,689
really began to rip at
the internal parts of him.
1372
01:13:53,137 --> 01:13:55,310
- You know, the thing about Mark
1373
01:13:55,448 --> 01:13:57,965
is he was all heart, you know?
1374
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:01,655
And that even comes back to the whole idea
1375
01:14:01,793 --> 01:14:05,068
of him not having that defense, that wall,
1376
01:14:05,206 --> 01:14:06,206
to be able to say,
1377
01:14:06,344 --> 01:14:08,586
you know, fuck you to the world, you know?
1378
01:14:08,724 --> 01:14:10,172
He just had this openness.
1379
01:14:10,310 --> 01:14:12,586
His heart was open, always,
1380
01:14:14,034 --> 01:14:16,931
and that sometimes served him,
1381
01:14:17,068 --> 01:14:20,379
and sometimes, it meant
that he felt everything.
1382
01:14:20,517 --> 01:14:22,068
You know, there was no filter.
1383
01:14:22,206 --> 01:14:23,620
He felt everything.
1384
01:14:23,758 --> 01:14:26,275
And I could imagine that his pain
1385
01:14:26,413 --> 01:14:29,448
was centered in his heart, you know?
1386
01:14:30,275 --> 01:14:33,103
And the fact that he sings
so much about the heart
1387
01:14:33,241 --> 01:14:36,896
and about being filled
with stuff, you know,
1388
01:14:37,724 --> 01:14:40,103
sometimes dead stuff.
1389
01:14:40,241 --> 01:14:43,241
- He was one of those
peculiar beings that...
1390
01:14:43,379 --> 01:14:47,000
Almost like a radio program from the past,
1391
01:14:50,275 --> 01:14:52,655
Like, "The Shadow knows!"
1392
01:14:52,793 --> 01:14:56,000
That comes in and out to you at points,
1393
01:14:57,310 --> 01:14:58,724
and at times, it sounds real familiar,
1394
01:14:58,862 --> 01:15:00,965
and at times, it disappears and is...
1395
01:15:01,103 --> 01:15:02,827
It's almost like he, at times,
1396
01:15:02,965 --> 01:15:06,344
had trouble fully materializing on Earth,
1397
01:15:08,482 --> 01:15:10,344
and there was always
this other part of him
1398
01:15:10,482 --> 01:15:14,551
that just couldn't quite
make some sort of a jump
1399
01:15:15,413 --> 01:15:16,827
to fully be here.
1400
01:15:19,310 --> 01:15:20,655
There was always this other part of him
1401
01:15:20,793 --> 01:15:23,103
that seemed very ghost-like,
1402
01:15:24,310 --> 01:15:27,413
and I think he wrestled
with it in some ways.
1403
01:15:27,551 --> 01:15:30,241
I think you can hear it,
sometimes, in the songs
1404
01:15:30,379 --> 01:15:32,241
and the music and the voice.
1405
01:15:32,379 --> 01:15:34,482
Comes in and out,
1406
01:15:34,620 --> 01:15:38,068
almost like when you go
into some crazy old house
1407
01:15:38,206 --> 01:15:39,551
and you think you smell perfume
1408
01:15:39,689 --> 01:15:43,275
that hasn't been there in 100 years.
1409
01:15:43,413 --> 01:15:48,034
- I had this weird thing
happen where, the day before...
1410
01:15:52,206 --> 01:15:53,620
I know this does sound very weird,
1411
01:15:53,758 --> 01:15:56,137
but the day before he died,
1412
01:15:56,275 --> 01:15:58,793
I had been in town, in Dublin,
1413
01:15:58,931 --> 01:16:03,482
and I'd passed a venue, and
I looked up at the window,
1414
01:16:05,310 --> 01:16:07,379
the top left-hand corner window,
1415
01:16:07,517 --> 01:16:10,206
where the two of us had sat...
1416
01:16:10,344 --> 01:16:11,896
We weren't allowed to smoke in this room,
1417
01:16:12,034 --> 01:16:14,034
so we had with the window open
1418
01:16:14,172 --> 01:16:16,448
and we were smoking out the window,
1419
01:16:16,586 --> 01:16:19,275
and it was kinda where the
two of us really connected.
1420
01:16:19,413 --> 01:16:21,000
And I was looking up at that window
1421
01:16:21,137 --> 01:16:23,862
and I hadn't thought about
him for quite some time.
1422
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:25,896
And I looked up at that window
1423
01:16:26,034 --> 01:16:29,103
and I just had a really vivid memory,
1424
01:16:30,310 --> 01:16:32,275
to the point where I just could see him
1425
01:16:32,413 --> 01:16:34,413
and smell him and everything.
1426
01:16:34,551 --> 01:16:39,206
It was really strong, really,
really strong, the day before.
1427
01:16:39,344 --> 01:16:42,275
- You know, he was sick, he had a disease,
1428
01:16:42,413 --> 01:16:44,034
he suffered from depression.
1429
01:16:44,172 --> 01:16:45,689
It's a disease.
1430
01:16:45,827 --> 01:16:50,482
I don't know if it would've
gone that way anyway, you know?
1431
01:16:50,620 --> 01:16:55,000
I mean, you know, I actually
really question that,
1432
01:16:55,137 --> 01:16:58,965
you know, a lot of it is just the fact
1433
01:16:59,103 --> 01:17:02,586
that we don't really have the
sort of same healthcare system
1434
01:17:02,724 --> 01:17:05,068
that the rest of the world has,
1435
01:17:05,206 --> 01:17:07,379
and especially with mental health,
1436
01:17:07,517 --> 01:17:11,413
that he was just never
really treated properly.
1437
01:17:12,482 --> 01:17:14,655
When he was in periods
when he didn't have money,
1438
01:17:14,793 --> 01:17:16,620
like, during that period,
1439
01:17:16,758 --> 01:17:20,068
he was completely functioning untreated,
1440
01:17:21,241 --> 01:17:23,724
suffering from severe depression.
1441
01:17:23,862 --> 01:17:25,896
He was reclusive anyway.
1442
01:17:26,931 --> 01:17:28,517
You know, people kinda come to help him,
1443
01:17:28,655 --> 01:17:33,275
moved him down to Knoxville
to live with a friend
1444
01:17:33,413 --> 01:17:35,000
and everybody...
1445
01:17:35,137 --> 01:17:38,103
I know that his brother, at least,
1446
01:17:38,241 --> 01:17:39,689
sort of thought that, you
know, some sense of relief.
1447
01:17:39,827 --> 01:17:42,896
"Okay, all right, we got him
sort of back in civilization.
1448
01:17:43,034 --> 01:17:44,586
He's not out in the middle of nowhere.
1449
01:17:44,724 --> 01:17:48,137
He's around people where he can get help.
1450
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:51,620
He's, you know, living with somebody
1451
01:17:51,758 --> 01:17:55,827
and you know, this should
help maybe get him out
1452
01:17:56,758 --> 01:17:58,862
of his downward spiral."
1453
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,275
So I was actually really
surprised when I found out
1454
01:18:01,413 --> 01:18:02,482
that he had shot himself,
1455
01:18:02,620 --> 01:18:06,586
because I thought he
was on his way up again.
1456
01:18:06,724 --> 01:18:08,413
It seemed like he had got...
1457
01:18:08,551 --> 01:18:11,241
I was sort of relieved, right?
1458
01:18:11,379 --> 01:18:13,551
- But what was so terrible
1459
01:18:15,827 --> 01:18:17,000
about what he was going through
1460
01:18:17,137 --> 01:18:20,620
is he was being hit by not
one, not two, not three,
1461
01:18:20,758 --> 01:18:25,724
but a handful of things,
major life stressors, at once.
1462
01:18:25,862 --> 01:18:28,310
He'd just lost a dear friend,
1463
01:18:30,068 --> 01:18:33,344
you know, less than three months prior,
1464
01:18:33,482 --> 01:18:36,413
he was in the middle of
moving not just his home,
1465
01:18:36,551 --> 01:18:38,241
but his studio,
1466
01:18:38,379 --> 01:18:42,862
to a city, from a extremely
rural, isolated existence,
1467
01:18:46,241 --> 01:18:49,413
into a bustling Southern city, you know?
1468
01:18:49,551 --> 01:18:51,551
He was making new friends.
1469
01:18:51,689 --> 01:18:54,275
He was embarking on a new album
1470
01:18:56,068 --> 01:18:58,965
that he was almost finished with.
1471
01:18:59,103 --> 01:19:01,620
I think that Mark was very...
1472
01:19:04,172 --> 01:19:07,068
With hindsight, I understand more and more
1473
01:19:07,206 --> 01:19:09,551
that Mark was really, really
1474
01:19:11,379 --> 01:19:14,310
under a tremendous amount of stress
1475
01:19:15,172 --> 01:19:17,172
that would buckle the best of us,
1476
01:19:17,310 --> 01:19:19,344
the toughest of the lot.
1477
01:19:19,482 --> 01:19:20,758
Mark was tough.
1478
01:19:21,862 --> 01:19:23,310
- He would be really honest with me.
1479
01:19:23,448 --> 01:19:24,724
I mean, we would talk...
1480
01:19:24,862 --> 01:19:26,241
You know, we talked about suicide,
1481
01:19:26,379 --> 01:19:30,896
we talked about depression,
we talked about these things.
1482
01:19:31,965 --> 01:19:35,517
You know, we talked
about his battles openly,
1483
01:19:35,655 --> 01:19:38,000
him and I, and we talked
about it with Melissa as well,
1484
01:19:38,137 --> 01:19:38,827
very honest.
1485
01:19:38,965 --> 01:19:40,310
We were very close.
1486
01:19:40,448 --> 01:19:41,965
And he told me it was tough
and he told me it was hard,
1487
01:19:42,103 --> 01:19:43,827
but I was just trying to
be supportive, you know,
1488
01:19:43,965 --> 01:19:45,275
in whatever I could do,
1489
01:19:45,413 --> 01:19:49,689
trying to think of anything
that could help, you know?
1490
01:19:49,827 --> 01:19:53,034
And then I got that call on a Saturday.
1491
01:19:58,068 --> 01:20:02,068
["Morning Hollow" by Sparklehorse]
1492
01:20:02,206 --> 01:20:04,827
- [Narrator] There is a consensus
among those who knew him
1493
01:20:04,965 --> 01:20:08,689
that they will never know
another person as rare as Mark.
1494
01:20:08,827 --> 01:20:12,275
His spectral bearing lent a
magic to his diamond-hard focus
1495
01:20:12,413 --> 01:20:14,655
and creative determination.
1496
01:20:16,206 --> 01:20:17,827
It's tempting to lump Mark's fall
1497
01:20:17,965 --> 01:20:21,482
into so many sordid and
tabloid-worthy tales
1498
01:20:21,620 --> 01:20:24,379
on the indulgence of failed relationships,
1499
01:20:24,517 --> 01:20:28,758
addictions, suicide and
the melancholia intrinsic
1500
01:20:28,896 --> 01:20:32,724
to those who are in the
business of feeling things.
1501
01:20:32,862 --> 01:20:36,206
But that would absolve us of
our own duty to ourselves,
1502
01:20:36,344 --> 01:20:39,206
for within each of us is that opening,
1503
01:20:39,344 --> 01:20:42,620
within each of us is a soul
that cobbles together images
1504
01:20:42,758 --> 01:20:44,931
to tell our own unique stories,
1505
01:20:45,068 --> 01:20:47,896
no matter how broken we may be.
1506
01:20:48,034 --> 01:20:50,413
How we take care of that is the trick,
1507
01:20:50,551 --> 01:20:53,586
and the care and grooming
of the creative cause.
1508
01:20:53,724 --> 01:20:56,206
It has to go somewhere.
1509
01:20:56,344 --> 01:20:59,103
By fastening yourself to yours,
1510
01:20:59,241 --> 01:21:02,137
you avoid tearing it away
from those around you.
1511
01:21:02,275 --> 01:21:04,275
What are you tethered to?
1512
01:21:04,413 --> 01:21:06,517
Does it help you with your chains?
1513
01:21:06,655 --> 01:21:11,000
For within each of us is
a bit of Sparklehorse.
1514
01:21:11,137 --> 01:21:15,241
["Morning Hollow" by
Sparklehorse continues]
1515
01:21:15,379 --> 01:21:18,862
- [Gemma] He's left a
huge hole in my heart.
1516
01:21:21,206 --> 01:21:24,103
- [Ed] He left us all
this beautiful music.
1517
01:21:24,241 --> 01:21:26,310
- [John] His music exists
in the world forever
1518
01:21:26,448 --> 01:21:27,620
and his work...
1519
01:21:27,758 --> 01:21:29,379
- [Adrian] Like many
great artists before him,
1520
01:21:29,517 --> 01:21:31,310
people will discover his music.
1521
01:21:31,448 --> 01:21:34,344
- [Matthew] Subsequent
generations of listeners
1522
01:21:34,482 --> 01:21:39,448
will come across these records
and find something amazing.
1523
01:21:39,931 --> 01:21:42,862
- [Matt] Just, yeah, he put some love
1524
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,172
and some beauty into this world.
1525
01:21:45,310 --> 01:21:48,482
- [Narrator] These distillations
of sound between the dials,
1526
01:21:48,620 --> 01:21:50,620
the speaking valves,
1527
01:21:50,758 --> 01:21:54,758
the fields of sonic
elation were your homage.
1528
01:21:54,896 --> 01:21:57,586
The mutant, the dross of our universe,
1529
01:21:57,724 --> 01:22:00,724
you put them together,
this was your offering.
1530
01:22:00,862 --> 01:22:05,655
The unsung, broken but still
smiling, discarded toys
1531
01:22:05,793 --> 01:22:08,517
of our collective pasts.
1532
01:22:08,655 --> 01:22:11,206
It is a hard world for little things.
1533
01:22:11,344 --> 01:22:13,413
Polish is to be despised,
1534
01:22:13,551 --> 01:22:16,000
in a glaring, shiny world,
1535
01:22:16,137 --> 01:22:20,137
the recesses, the unloved, the cast off,
1536
01:22:20,275 --> 01:22:21,965
this is your dominion.
1537
01:22:22,103 --> 01:22:23,896
This is Sparklehorse.
1538
01:22:24,034 --> 01:22:29,000
["Morning Hollow" by
Sparklehorse continues]
1539
01:22:35,310 --> 01:22:36,551
["Chaos of the Galaxy /
Happy Man" by Sparklehorse]
1540
01:22:36,689 --> 01:22:41,655
"More would be laid at your feet"
1541
01:22:42,551 --> 01:22:45,275
"If you give me"
1542
01:22:45,413 --> 01:22:49,689
"Just a little smile"
1543
01:22:49,827 --> 01:22:54,793
"The dogs on my trail
wouldn't drag me back to jail"
1544
01:22:57,172 --> 01:23:02,206
"I woke up in a horse's
stomach upon a foggy morning"
1545
01:23:03,965 --> 01:23:08,965
"His eyes were crazy and he
smashed into the cemetery gates"
1546
01:23:10,689 --> 01:23:15,689
"All I want is to be a happy man"
1547
01:23:17,310 --> 01:23:22,310
"All I want is to be a happy man"
1548
01:23:25,517 --> 01:23:30,517
"I've seen teeth across the horizon"
1549
01:23:32,965 --> 01:23:37,793
"Fangs spanning yellow
against the earth"
1550
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:44,000
["Chaos of the Galaxy/Happy
Man" by Sparklehorse continues]
1551
01:23:52,827 --> 01:23:54,103
"And if"
1552
01:23:54,241 --> 01:23:58,793
"I woke up in a horse's
stomach upon a foggy morning"
1553
01:24:00,241 --> 01:24:05,275
"His eyes were crazy and he
smashed into the cemetery gates"
1554
01:24:07,137 --> 01:24:12,137
"All I want is to be a happy man"
1555
01:24:13,551 --> 01:24:17,724
"All I want is to be a happy man"
1556
01:24:20,172 --> 01:24:25,137
["Chaos of the Galaxy/Happy
Man" by Sparklehorse continues]
1557
01:24:46,482 --> 01:24:51,482
"I woke up in a horse's
stomach upon a foggy morning"
1558
01:24:53,206 --> 01:24:58,172
"His eyes were crazy and he
smashed into the cemetery gates"
1559
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:05,068
"And all I want is to be a happy man"
1560
01:25:06,551 --> 01:25:11,551
"And all I want is to be a happy man"
1561
01:25:13,413 --> 01:25:18,413
"All I want is to be a happy man"
1562
01:25:20,034 --> 01:25:25,034
"All I want is to be a happy man"
1563
01:25:27,931 --> 01:25:32,931
"All I want"
1564
01:25:35,103 --> 01:25:40,103
"All I want"
1565
01:25:41,517 --> 01:25:46,206
"All I want"
1566
01:25:46,344 --> 01:25:48,793
"All I want"
1567
01:25:52,448 --> 01:25:57,413
["Chaos of the Galaxy/Happy
Man" by Sparklehorse continues]
1568
01:26:08,068 --> 01:26:11,413
["Eons" by Jake Hiorns]
1569
01:26:23,517 --> 01:26:27,689
["Eons" by Jake Hiorns continues]
1570
01:26:38,965 --> 01:26:43,137
["Eons" by Jake Hiorns continues]
1571
01:26:56,000 --> 01:27:00,241
["Eons" by Jake Hiorns continues]
1572
01:27:11,862 --> 01:27:16,034
["Eons" by Jake Hiorns continues]
1573
01:27:26,034 --> 01:27:30,206
["Eons" by Jake Hiorns continues]
1574
01:27:45,068 --> 01:27:49,241
["Eons" by Jake Hiorns continues]
1575
01:27:59,931 --> 01:28:04,172
["Eons" by Jake Hiorns continues]
1576
01:28:14,965 --> 01:28:19,103
["Eons" by Jake Hiorns continues]
1577
01:28:30,034 --> 01:28:34,206
["Eons" by Jake Hiorns continues]
1578
01:28:44,896 --> 01:28:49,068
["Eons" by Jake Hiorns continues]
1579
01:28:59,896 --> 01:29:04,103
["Eons" by Jake Hiorns continues]
1580
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:19,172
["Eons" by Jake Hiorns continues]
1581
01:29:30,034 --> 01:29:34,206
["Eons" by Jake Hiorns continues]
1582
01:29:44,827 --> 01:29:49,000
["Eons" by Jake Hiorns continues]
1583
01:29:59,862 --> 01:30:04,000
["Eons" by Jake Hiorns continues]
1584
01:30:15,758 --> 01:30:19,034
["Eons" by Jake Hiorns continues]
1585
01:30:29,793 --> 01:30:33,931
["Eons" by Jake Hiorns continues]
1586
01:30:59,724 --> 01:31:03,965
["Eons" by Jake Hiorns continues]
1587
01:31:29,758 --> 01:31:33,931
["Eons" by Jake Hiorns continues]
1588
01:31:59,517 --> 01:32:03,758
["Eons" by Jake Hiorns continues]
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