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In the criminal justice system,
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sexually-based offenses
are considered especially heinous.
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In New York City,
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the dedicated detectives who investigate
these vicious felonies are members
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of an elite squad known
as The Special Victims Unit.
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These are their stories.
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What've we got?
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A dead victim, head bashed in,
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privates exposed.
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Tech found seminal fluid on the face,
legs and mouth, and we thought of you.
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Was she a resident of the building?
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He.
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We've ID'd him as Seth Langdon.
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He lived in the building on the sixth floor.
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Nice twobedroom but he lived
alone as far as we could tell.
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Looks like this is where it went down.
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This guy didn't die quietly.
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Somebody must've heard something.
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They did. There was
a loud party in the building in 3B.
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Pretty ironic ending,
don't you think?
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Why's that?
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Well, him being
Seth Langdon and all.
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Son of William H. Langdon?
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Head of The Moral Coalition?
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Yeah, the guy who's always going around
preaching about good clean wholesome living.
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Believes homosexuality can be cured.
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That's one way to fix 'em.
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Law & Order SVU
1x10 Closure (1)
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ORIGINAL AIR DATE ON NBC: 2000/01/07
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What's going on?
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Here, John.
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What's this?
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Police union found us
better health insurance.
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This form is longer
than the last book I read.
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Don't you see what they're doing?
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They're looking out for you, Munch.
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Psychiatric coverage
increased to 80%/2.
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Relax, it's just a medical form.
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Right, as soon as they find out
that your mother had diabetes
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or that your father had
male pattern baldness...
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sorry, Chief...
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they'll have your entire genealogical...
not to mention, genetic fingerprint.
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They'll know when you're gonna die,
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how it's gonna occur and what
song you want sung at your funeral.
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There's two "r"s in hemorrhoids.
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I'm a desk jockey,
what do you want from me?
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See, she's got the right idea.
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Leave the father's side blank,
that'll mess 'em up.
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Let's keep our eyes on our own paper.
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Okay, talk to me about
our rooftop homicide, people.
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Name's Seth Langdon.
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White male, 21.
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He was at a party on
the third floor of his building,
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made his way up to
the rooftop around 1:00 am.,
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there was seminal
fluid found on the victim...
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we're assuming it's premortem.
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Genitals were exposed.
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He was beat up pretty good, culminating in his
head being bashed up against the AC unit.
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- Lover's quarrel.
- Sexual predator from the party?
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Initial ME report has
two types of seminal fluid...
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- one the victim's...
- The other the doer's?
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What do you say we start with the hosts,
work our way through the guest list.
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Langdon? I just read
this piece about William Langdon,
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spouting off about how
homosexuals can be cured.
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- Victim was his son.
- Get out of here.
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One out of every 10 men is gay.
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Let's see how Mr. Langdon felt
about that statistic hitting home.
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Don't make any more barbs
about Benson's father.
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Excuse me?
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You don't know the history there?
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No, what was he, an alcoholic?
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Deadbeat dad? Jehovah's Witness?
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The only thing she knows about him was
he was the man who raped her mother.
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Moral Coalition
520 West 69th Street
Monday, November 22
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Excuse me, who are you?
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How did you get by reception?
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We're Detectives Benson and Stabler.
We need to see William Langdon.
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Mr. Langdon's not
seeing anyone today.
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We're not here selling Amway.
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It's all right, Steven,
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you can let them in.
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Do you have any idea who might
want to do this to your son?
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No.
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Was he involved with anyone?
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Did he have a boyfriend?
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Or boyfriends?
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My son was not a homosexual.
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Mr. Langdon, you are aware
of the circumstances of your son's death?
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Seth was merely...
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going through a rebellious phase,
all children do.
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We had it under control.
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Just how do you control
a person's natural sexual orientation?
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Homosexuality is not natural.
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It is a crime against God.
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And AIDS is divine retribution.
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Are you being flippant with me?
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We're really just trying to find
your son's killer, Mr. Langdon.
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That's our only agenda here.
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Seth was so confused.
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I did everything I could to help him.
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I got him into one of those
sexual rehabilitation centers.
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They have an excellent success rate.
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Seth completed the
program two months ago.
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Meaning he was "cured"?
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Yes.
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So, the party got
a little bit out of hand.
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Oh, I see.
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You hear "gay" and "party"
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and naturally you think S & M orgy.
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No, but the last party I went to,
everyone made it home alive.
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The victim's blood alcohol was 0.15.
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If you were a bartender
you'd be legally responsible.
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I haven't tended bar
since Studio 54 closed.
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Think... did anybody, for any reason,
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stand out that night
in one way or another?
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If they didn't, they wouldn't
have gotten in the door.
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Our guests were very prominent
members of the community.
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Prominent or not,
we need their names and addresses.
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How well did you know Seth?
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He just moved in recently.
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I guess we saw him a handful
of times in the building's gym.
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He's a nice kid.
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Still finding himself...
so much turmoil.
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Seth hook up with
anybody at this party?
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On the contrary,
you might say he unhooked...
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from the goodlooking blond
gentleman he walked in the door with.
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This man have a name?
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He didn't stay long
enough for us to catch it.
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After one drink,
Seth got a little flirtatious.
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His friend got upset
and insisted they leave.
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The next thing, they're
exchanging words in the hallway.
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They leave together?
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No.
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Seth came back in by himself,
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grabbed a bottle of beer
and headed for the balcony,
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we assumed, to cool down.
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What happened on the
roof was outside of our world.
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This was a very civilized gathering.
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"Just stay out of my life!"
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And then we hear a beer
bottle smash outside our window.
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Is this your apartment?
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Yeah, the ground floor apartment.
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It's the only way
we can afford this building.
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On top of which I do light maintenance
and my husband's the weekend super.
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These are the detectives
investigating that man's murder.
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Can't believe it happened.
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What do you know
about the parties in 3B?
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Normally they're quiet.
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Except last night, we get three phone
calls complaining about the music.
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Finally, Jesse had to
go up and talk to them.
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And what time was that?
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Around 1:00.
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By any chance, did you
happen to see him at that time?
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No, I didn't go in. I just asked them
to turn down the music and I left.
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When you heard the bottle smash,
you look out the window?
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Yes.
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And what'd you see?
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A blond guy getting
into a Lincoln Town Car,
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you know, the chauffeurdriven type.
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Anything come up on
any of the party guests?
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No, I just started inputting them.
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What?
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Your father comment I made earlier,
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I didn't know he was a... you know.
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A rapist.
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I know.
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Listen,
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Cragen and Stabler know.
Otherwise l...
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Got it.
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- Thanks.
- Ever catch the guy?
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- Nope.
- Were there any leads at the time?
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Nope.
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You ever need to talk to anybody,
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I'm here.
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Okay.
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Hey, we got the kid
on the car service.
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The man picked up in
front of the victim's building,
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was driven to a brownstone
on the Upper East Side.
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Name is Steven Hale.
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Good.
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Home Of Steven Hale
259 East 76th Street
Tuesday, November 23
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What are you doing here?
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You're boss had no idea, did he?
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About what?
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What you did to his son.
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Daddy,
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let's go!
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Why would a gay man
work for Langdon,
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one of the most
conservative bigots in the country?
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Hale's not exactly
open about his sexuality.
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Don't you think Hale's wife and kid think
he has an uncanny ability to accessorize?
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Have you seen him?
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- He doesn't accessorize all that well.
- Maybe Hale's not gay.
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Right.
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How do you prove it?
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One very tried and true way...
jealousy.
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Witnesses said Hale was jealous
when Seth started hitting on other guys.
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Ah, the old greeneyed monster.
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Maybe Hale thought that by
working for Langdon he'd be cured.
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Like Langdon thought Camp
Wild Bunch cured his own son.
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And Daddy knows best.
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And makes damn sure
everyone else knows it.
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I don't know how people,
smart people,
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educated people, think that way.
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I mean actually think you can
change the way somebody's wired.
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You know anyone who
would actually choose to be gay...
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risk family rejection...
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- discrimination?
- I mean, Choose all that heartache?
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Heartache is not
unique to being gay.
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But I know what you mean.
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In those camps one of the treatments
is electroshock therapy to the groin.
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- Sound familiar?
- Yeah, Avenal's tried it on sex offenders.
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Yeah. With much the same success.
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You're saying we're
like William H. Langdon?
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No, we don't try to rewire people.
We try to contain them.
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Look at him.
Steven Hale is fuming.
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He's been living a lie,
we happen to catch him at it.
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Of course he's mad.
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Specifically, he's mad at you.
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Which is why we thought
you'd have better luck with him.
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Yeah, you're smart and
God knows you're patient.
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I am not a homosexual!
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Okay.
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Part of my job was
to keep an eye on Seth.
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Mr. Langdon is seriously eyeing
a run for a congressional seat,
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but the scandal of an
openly homosexual son...
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Look at the damage the
lesbian sister caused Newt.
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Actually, she was a halfsister.
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She may have been a halfsister but
unfortunately for Newt, she was all lesbian.
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You don't think Newt's problems had
anything to do with his ethics violations
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or him being a pedantic megalomaniac
who espouses family values
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while serving his cancerstricken
wife with divorce papers
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while she's on her hospital deathbed?
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Did that ever occur to you?
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Anybody know where Cassidy is?
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Seth didn't show up at his
father's fundraiser that night,
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Mr. Langdon asked me
to check up on him.
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But when I got to his floor,
Seth brushed right by me.
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I followed,
giving him a piece of my mind,
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and the next thing I knew,
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I find myself at that party.
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You were upset that
he was flirting, right?
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Because it was revolting.
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Of course, I tried to
persuade him to leave.
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He wouldn't but...
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- And what he said on the balcony?
- Was not a breakup.
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00:11:38,764 --> 00:11:42,856
"Stay out of my life" was
a message to his father.
249
00:11:43,842 --> 00:11:45,820
If only I tried harder to
get him away from there,
250
00:11:45,820 --> 00:11:47,554
he'd still be alive.
251
00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:51,844
Okay, guys, where do we stand?
252
00:11:51,844 --> 00:11:53,996
The wife confirms that
he never left the house
253
00:11:53,996 --> 00:11:56,298
after the car service dropped
him off around 12:30.
254
00:11:56,298 --> 00:11:58,369
He is mentioned
in the victim's journal.
255
00:11:58,369 --> 00:12:01,931
But only in pejorative terms.
Believe me, No love affair there.
256
00:12:01,931 --> 00:12:05,160
And Mr. Langdon confirmed that
he sent him to check on his son.
257
00:12:05,941 --> 00:12:07,351
We send Steven Hale home.
258
00:12:07,351 --> 00:12:10,313
With our apologies
for the inconvenience?
259
00:12:10,313 --> 00:12:11,523
Of course.
260
00:12:11,523 --> 00:12:14,392
Okay, I guess that takes us
back to the party guests.
261
00:12:14,392 --> 00:12:18,136
Yeah, I crossreferenced
them against the journal, but
262
00:12:18,136 --> 00:12:19,652
no history with any of them.
263
00:12:19,652 --> 00:12:21,635
Wow, this is some shindig.
264
00:12:21,635 --> 00:12:23,697
We've got names
from the "Social Register,"
265
00:12:23,697 --> 00:12:26,520
an assemblyman,
a major AIDS fundraiser.
266
00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,307
None of whom are likely to
be big fans of the victim's father.
267
00:12:29,307 --> 00:12:32,760
Prominent or not,
let's check 'em all.
268
00:12:36,674 --> 00:12:38,872
Andre Lasnik?
269
00:12:39,274 --> 00:12:40,760
I'm in the middle of rehearsal here.
270
00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,338
And we're in the middle
of a homicide investigation.
271
00:12:46,682 --> 00:12:47,879
Seth Langdon...
272
00:12:47,879 --> 00:12:49,671
did you have any interaction with him?
273
00:12:49,671 --> 00:12:53,510
We were introduced in passing.
It's horrible what happened.
274
00:12:53,510 --> 00:12:55,073
What time did you leave the party?
275
00:12:55,073 --> 00:12:56,683
After 1:00...
276
00:12:56,683 --> 00:12:59,120
with my first chair bassoon and...
277
00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:00,410
another couple.
278
00:13:00,410 --> 00:13:02,578
Lee Vaughn and Joaquin Morano.
279
00:13:02,578 --> 00:13:04,401
We took a taxi to the Carlyle.
280
00:13:04,401 --> 00:13:06,932
We understand that Seth was very...
281
00:13:06,932 --> 00:13:08,466
friendly at the party.
282
00:13:08,466 --> 00:13:10,722
And that you two
seemed particularly chummy.
283
00:13:10,722 --> 00:13:14,882
Look, I'm almost 20 years his senior.
284
00:13:14,882 --> 00:13:17,232
We talked about his childhood.
285
00:13:17,232 --> 00:13:20,465
I gathered, due to
the dynamic with the father,
286
00:13:20,465 --> 00:13:25,770
Seth probably sought out the affections
of older men or unobtainable men.
287
00:13:25,770 --> 00:13:29,389
So you of course did the noble thing?
288
00:13:30,333 --> 00:13:32,119
I admit I was torn.
289
00:13:32,119 --> 00:13:36,556
I excused myself to the restroom
to get perspective.
290
00:13:36,556 --> 00:13:38,091
When I came out he was gone.
291
00:13:38,091 --> 00:13:40,211
Was anyone else gone
when you got back?
292
00:13:40,211 --> 00:13:41,944
Not that I noticed.
293
00:13:41,944 --> 00:13:43,530
Maybe you could tell from the tape.
294
00:13:43,530 --> 00:13:45,123
What tape is that?
295
00:13:45,824 --> 00:13:48,721
One of the guests had a camcorder.
Had it going the whole time.
296
00:13:48,721 --> 00:13:51,228
Assemblyman Rossi's boyfriend, Joe.
297
00:13:51,228 --> 00:13:53,240
Joe Bandolini.
298
00:13:54,350 --> 00:13:55,629
Officer Bandolini?
299
00:13:55,629 --> 00:13:58,162
Yeah? / Hey, can we have
a few minutes of your time?
300
00:13:58,162 --> 00:13:59,729
In private?
301
00:14:12,990 --> 00:14:14,295
The Langdon case?
302
00:14:14,295 --> 00:14:16,293
We understand you have
a videotape of the party.
303
00:14:16,293 --> 00:14:17,951
The party, not the murder.
304
00:14:17,951 --> 00:14:20,432
Your tape could show the
events leading up to the murder.
305
00:14:20,432 --> 00:14:22,127
It doesn't.
306
00:14:22,841 --> 00:14:24,885
You mind if we judge
that for ourselves?
307
00:14:24,885 --> 00:14:26,360
Actually I do.
308
00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,969
I've managed to keep my personal life
and the job completely separate.
309
00:14:29,969 --> 00:14:32,063
No one in my squad knows,
not even my partner.
310
00:14:32,063 --> 00:14:33,449
I'd like to keep it that way.
311
00:14:33,449 --> 00:14:36,981
We are not looking to change that.
This'll be handled with discretion.
312
00:14:36,981 --> 00:14:38,109
Right.
313
00:14:38,109 --> 00:14:40,895
Tape goes into evidence and somehow
finds itself circulating the precinct,
314
00:14:40,895 --> 00:14:42,384
- I'm finished.
- It's not gonna happen.
315
00:14:42,384 --> 00:14:44,838
You're right, it's not.
316
00:14:45,389 --> 00:14:47,283
You gonna make us get a warrant?
317
00:14:50,161 --> 00:14:51,682
Look, I'm a good cop.
318
00:14:51,682 --> 00:14:54,677
If there was anything on that tape
to help your investigation, I'd tell you.
319
00:14:54,677 --> 00:14:56,422
Not good enough.
320
00:14:56,535 --> 00:14:58,785
You'll do right by us, I promise you...
321
00:14:59,007 --> 00:15:02,921
I'm promising you
we'll do right by you.
322
00:15:05,068 --> 00:15:08,037
I'll come by your squadroom
in the morning.
323
00:15:12,605 --> 00:15:14,830
55th Precinct
Vice Squad
Thusday, November 23
324
00:15:14,830 --> 00:15:16,402
How did we solve cases back then?
325
00:15:16,402 --> 00:15:20,064
No FBI link up, no DNA,
no high-tech forensics.
326
00:15:20,064 --> 00:15:22,186
Cood old fashioned shoe leather.
327
00:15:22,186 --> 00:15:23,972
Was Conklin a good detective?
328
00:15:23,972 --> 00:15:26,753
One of the best,
may he rest in peace.
329
00:15:26,753 --> 00:15:28,716
I wish I could've talked to him.
330
00:15:28,716 --> 00:15:31,095
Would've gotten you
more than reading his notes.
331
00:15:31,536 --> 00:15:33,823
He was a spotty note taker,
332
00:15:33,823 --> 00:15:36,488
but up here, a steel trap.
333
00:15:37,009 --> 00:15:40,795
He remembered every
detail of every case he worked.
334
00:15:41,356 --> 00:15:44,018
He didn't have much
on the Benson case.
335
00:15:44,892 --> 00:15:47,342
Any idea what "Pull in CK" means?
336
00:15:47,342 --> 00:15:49,819
CK, this is '68.
337
00:15:49,819 --> 00:15:51,838
That's gotta be Carl Kudlak.
338
00:15:51,838 --> 00:15:54,632
We pulled him in on
a bunch of rapes back then.
339
00:15:54,632 --> 00:15:56,778
Took us forever
to finally pin one on him.
340
00:15:56,778 --> 00:15:59,658
- Why's that?
- Had a wife who alibied him every time.
341
00:16:00,677 --> 00:16:02,706
She killed herself in '72...
342
00:16:02,706 --> 00:16:04,391
or we never would've gotten him.
343
00:16:05,059 --> 00:16:06,929
Thanks.
344
00:16:10,441 --> 00:16:11,846
You wanted to see me?
345
00:16:11,846 --> 00:16:13,281
Can you shut the door?
346
00:16:14,892 --> 00:16:17,128
I believe you've
met Officer Bandolini.
347
00:16:17,128 --> 00:16:20,749
And this is Mr. Shore,
his GOAL representative.
348
00:16:20,749 --> 00:16:21,807
GOAL?
349
00:16:21,807 --> 00:16:25,421
Do we really need the Gay Officers
Action League involved in all this?
350
00:16:25,867 --> 00:16:30,011
We understand you and your partner
have been harassing Officer Bandolini.
351
00:16:30,011 --> 00:16:31,547
I'm afraid we have to intervene.
352
00:16:31,547 --> 00:16:32,830
Harassed?
353
00:16:32,830 --> 00:16:34,941
We in no way harassed your officer.
354
00:16:34,941 --> 00:16:38,083
We asked for him to turn
over a piece of evidence to us.
355
00:16:38,083 --> 00:16:40,433
We don't consider
threats of legal action
356
00:16:40,433 --> 00:16:42,550
and public humiliation a courtesy.
357
00:16:42,550 --> 00:16:43,456
- Public humiliation?
- Okay, okay.
358
00:16:43,456 --> 00:16:46,756
Obviously, there's
a misunderstanding here, alright?
359
00:16:46,756 --> 00:16:48,584
Just don't forget
we're all on the same side.
360
00:16:48,584 --> 00:16:50,817
Let's sit down and see if
we can work this out amicably.
361
00:16:50,817 --> 00:16:53,574
That's necessary.
We've both reviewed the tape
362
00:16:53,574 --> 00:16:56,050
and I assure you it contains
no compelling evidence.
363
00:16:56,050 --> 00:16:59,365
With all due respect, sir,
that's really our call to make.
364
00:16:59,365 --> 00:17:02,128
All we need to do is to view it.
365
00:17:02,128 --> 00:17:05,155
You have your needs,
we have our rights.
366
00:17:05,155 --> 00:17:06,490
Meanwhile,
367
00:17:06,490 --> 00:17:08,817
if Officer Bandolini is outed,
368
00:17:08,817 --> 00:17:10,883
even accidentally on purpose,
369
00:17:10,883 --> 00:17:14,783
you'll be hit with a defamation suit
that will make your head spin.
370
00:17:19,699 --> 00:17:21,177
Thank you.
371
00:17:29,225 --> 00:17:31,392
Well, this is just great.
372
00:17:31,392 --> 00:17:33,293
They filed an injunction.
373
00:17:33,293 --> 00:17:35,344
I think you better get
Benson in here. / Yep.
374
00:17:38,435 --> 00:17:40,643
I had a little free time last night,
375
00:17:40,643 --> 00:17:43,369
- so I looked up your case.
- The Langdon case?
376
00:17:43,444 --> 00:17:45,449
No, your mother's.
377
00:17:46,412 --> 00:17:49,462
The detective who investigated is dead
so I spoke to one of his proteges.
378
00:17:49,462 --> 00:17:51,492
Munch, it's not that
379
00:17:51,492 --> 00:17:53,324
I don't appreciate the thought, but
380
00:17:53,324 --> 00:17:54,448
I'm already on it.
381
00:17:54,448 --> 00:17:57,612
I can't tell you how many times
I've gone over the report,
382
00:17:57,612 --> 00:17:59,996
listened to his statement,
gone through six packs.
383
00:17:59,996 --> 00:18:01,676
Spoke to investigators,
visited the crime scene?
384
00:18:01,676 --> 00:18:03,191
Trust me...
385
00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:07,371
I've pulled everything there is to pull.
386
00:18:07,371 --> 00:18:09,853
I don't think this was pullable.
387
00:18:14,033 --> 00:18:17,442
I don't know what it will come to,
but from what I've heard,
388
00:18:17,442 --> 00:18:19,013
he's right for it.
389
00:18:19,013 --> 00:18:20,488
You bothering my partner?
390
00:18:20,488 --> 00:18:21,825
No.
391
00:18:23,953 --> 00:18:25,618
No.
392
00:18:29,513 --> 00:18:33,032
Forensics Laboratory
One Police Plaza
Wednesday, November 24
393
00:18:33,217 --> 00:18:36,533
I have to warn you,
The RFLP wasn't back yet.
394
00:18:36,533 --> 00:18:40,853
But I ran a couple of quick test results
through the databank, and I got a hit.
395
00:18:40,853 --> 00:18:41,940
What's the name?
396
00:18:41,940 --> 00:18:44,218
This isn't going to hold
up in court, mind you,
397
00:18:44,218 --> 00:18:47,023
but I ran the PCR
and the mitochondrial.
398
00:18:47,023 --> 00:18:49,120
- They're quick but...
- The name?
399
00:18:50,145 --> 00:18:51,763
Ray Gunther.
400
00:18:52,782 --> 00:18:54,642
Why do I know that name?
401
00:18:55,338 --> 00:18:56,683
We studied him at the academy.
402
00:18:56,683 --> 00:18:59,898
He was the guy who terrorized women
for an entire summer in the early '80s.
403
00:18:59,898 --> 00:19:02,148
He was known
as the Parkway Rapist.
404
00:19:02,314 --> 00:19:04,286
But they put him away.
405
00:19:04,793 --> 00:19:06,622
He's out.
406
00:19:06,748 --> 00:19:09,368
There's no way
they would release Ray Gunther.
407
00:19:09,368 --> 00:19:11,022
He brutally raped seven women...
408
00:19:11,022 --> 00:19:13,149
two of which had to
have reconstructive surgery.
409
00:19:13,149 --> 00:19:14,908
Maybe he escaped.
410
00:19:15,031 --> 00:19:16,299
Anything from SingSing?
411
00:19:16,299 --> 00:19:18,350
They've had me on hold for 10 minutes.
412
00:19:18,350 --> 00:19:21,196
If he escaped, he took
the whole administrative staff with him.
413
00:19:21,196 --> 00:19:24,640
Yes, I need to speak with the
DA who handled the Ray Gunther case.
414
00:19:24,690 --> 00:19:26,036
He was paroled.
415
00:19:26,036 --> 00:19:27,312
That was my guess.
416
00:19:27,312 --> 00:19:28,610
When?
417
00:19:28,610 --> 00:19:29,816
A month ago.
418
00:19:29,816 --> 00:19:30,803
Why?
419
00:19:30,803 --> 00:19:33,066
He served 15 of his 25 to life.
420
00:19:33,066 --> 00:19:36,118
Prisons are overcrowded, you know
that got to make room somehow.
421
00:19:36,118 --> 00:19:37,941
So by all means let out Ray Gunther,
422
00:19:37,941 --> 00:19:40,470
Yeah. knowing the recidivism
rate of sexual predators.
423
00:19:40,470 --> 00:19:42,735
He's gotta file with the
Sex Offender's Registry.
424
00:19:42,735 --> 00:19:43,875
We got an address?
425
00:19:43,875 --> 00:19:45,042
We do.
426
00:19:45,042 --> 00:19:47,717
And you shouldn't have
too much trouble finding it.
427
00:19:47,717 --> 00:19:50,781
It's in the same building
where Seth Langdon was killed.
428
00:20:01,410 --> 00:20:02,568
Uh, hi.
429
00:20:02,568 --> 00:20:04,236
Hey, Jesse Hansen, right?
430
00:20:04,236 --> 00:20:06,204
Detectives, did you catch the guy?
431
00:20:06,204 --> 00:20:08,561
No, but we think we're pretty close.
432
00:20:09,869 --> 00:20:12,554
Do you need anything else?
Do you have any more questions?
433
00:20:12,554 --> 00:20:14,068
Just one.
434
00:20:14,068 --> 00:20:16,538
Is there a Ray Gunther staying with you?
435
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,822
No, no one staying with us.
436
00:20:18,822 --> 00:20:20,444
That's funny.
437
00:20:20,488 --> 00:20:23,878
This is the address he
gave authorities after his parole.
438
00:20:23,987 --> 00:20:26,391
Any idea why he
would've done that?
439
00:20:27,754 --> 00:20:29,433
He's my brother.
440
00:20:31,947 --> 00:20:34,275
So why'd you change
your last name, Jesse?
441
00:20:35,712 --> 00:20:36,831
Come on,
442
00:20:36,831 --> 00:20:40,563
you legally change your last name.
There's got to be a reason for that.
443
00:20:42,518 --> 00:20:45,300
Was "Gunther" not too popular
a name in your neighborhood?
444
00:20:45,430 --> 00:20:46,515
No, it wasn't.
445
00:20:46,515 --> 00:20:48,301
Yeah, People give you
a hard time about it, I bet.
446
00:20:48,301 --> 00:20:49,569
Yeah, they did. / Yeah.
447
00:20:49,569 --> 00:20:52,418
Don't let Ray cause any more
trouble than he already has.
448
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,320
Just tell us where he is.
449
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,357
- I don't know where he is.
- But you know what he did.
450
00:21:00,852 --> 00:21:02,628
Don't you?
451
00:21:02,628 --> 00:21:04,247
Why do we have to be separated?
452
00:21:04,247 --> 00:21:05,914
It's just standard procedure.
453
00:21:05,914 --> 00:21:08,872
I know my husband.
He's not going to say anything.
454
00:21:08,958 --> 00:21:11,949
But you don't know the
psychological hold that Ray has over him.
455
00:21:11,949 --> 00:21:13,258
We're listening.
456
00:21:13,258 --> 00:21:16,547
Jesse was 15 when
they locked Ray up.
457
00:21:17,409 --> 00:21:20,394
Reporters snuck into his high school
and asked him questions...
458
00:21:20,394 --> 00:21:22,897
in front of his classmates.
459
00:21:23,767 --> 00:21:27,282
Jesse said he thought
Ray should be put to death.
460
00:21:27,282 --> 00:21:29,490
They ran that as a headline.
461
00:21:29,490 --> 00:21:31,962
Ray has been working
that guilt ever since.
462
00:21:31,962 --> 00:21:34,428
Is that why Jesse let him stay
with you when he got out?
463
00:21:34,428 --> 00:21:37,169
Yes, but I couldn't take it after a week.
464
00:21:37,169 --> 00:21:38,756
I had to put my foot down.
465
00:21:38,756 --> 00:21:42,478
He was talking to Jesse about getting
him a job in his construction crew.
466
00:21:42,478 --> 00:21:43,803
That would have been bad?
467
00:21:43,803 --> 00:21:45,255
It would've ruined his life.
468
00:21:45,255 --> 00:21:47,851
Because they would've found
out he was Ray's brother.
469
00:21:47,985 --> 00:21:50,798
Because they would've
found out he was a Gunther.
470
00:21:50,798 --> 00:21:53,083
The whole family's bad.
471
00:21:53,197 --> 00:21:55,880
The father was in and out
of jail his whole miserable life,
472
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,941
The mother is a piece of garbage.
473
00:21:57,941 --> 00:22:00,090
And I don't have
to tell you about Ray.
474
00:22:01,174 --> 00:22:04,938
There is nothing but
bad blood in that whole family.
475
00:22:05,117 --> 00:22:08,785
Did you see Ray in your building
the night Seth was killed?
476
00:22:13,269 --> 00:22:15,920
He was in our apartment
till 1:00 in the morning.
477
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:16,930
Where is he now?
478
00:22:16,930 --> 00:22:18,616
I don't know.
479
00:22:20,340 --> 00:22:23,226
There's a piece of white trash,
480
00:22:23,226 --> 00:22:25,910
used to visit him in prison...
481
00:22:26,163 --> 00:22:27,954
stripper named Cindy Stocklash...
482
00:22:27,954 --> 00:22:29,447
might be shacked up with her.
483
00:22:29,447 --> 00:22:31,551
Any clue where she could be?
484
00:22:31,551 --> 00:22:33,049
The one time I met her,
485
00:22:33,049 --> 00:22:36,655
she was explaining how
she wanted to change motels.
486
00:22:36,655 --> 00:22:38,467
Apparently, hers didn't get porn.
487
00:22:38,467 --> 00:22:40,337
Porn.
488
00:22:40,823 --> 00:22:42,575
That narrows it down.
489
00:22:47,512 --> 00:22:50,037
Please state your name, miss.
490
00:22:50,828 --> 00:22:52,747
Serina Benson.
491
00:22:52,747 --> 00:22:54,649
Address?
492
00:22:54,914 --> 00:22:58,140
1104 West End Avenue,
Apartment B.
493
00:22:58,140 --> 00:23:00,034
You were raped?
494
00:23:00,745 --> 00:23:02,091
Yes.
495
00:23:02,091 --> 00:23:04,443
You gotta speak up, honey.
496
00:23:05,779 --> 00:23:07,664
The a...
497
00:23:07,787 --> 00:23:10,716
campus library closed at midnight.
498
00:23:10,716 --> 00:23:14,469
I took the shortcut home I always take.
499
00:23:14,469 --> 00:23:17,523
It was darker than usual.
500
00:23:18,071 --> 00:23:22,852
I was halfway through when
something hit me from behind.
501
00:23:22,852 --> 00:23:25,050
You were knocked unconscious?
502
00:23:25,050 --> 00:23:26,527
Yes.
503
00:23:28,166 --> 00:23:33,422
When I came to I was on a landing
below street level.
504
00:23:33,733 --> 00:23:39,291
There was a man on top of me.
505
00:23:39,445 --> 00:23:42,415
He was...
506
00:23:42,415 --> 00:23:45,026
he pushed on my dress.
507
00:23:46,647 --> 00:23:49,053
He engaged in sexual intercourse?
508
00:23:53,593 --> 00:23:56,028
Can you describe him?
509
00:23:57,613 --> 00:24:00,829
He had sideburns and...
510
00:24:01,752 --> 00:24:03,330
I don't know.
511
00:24:04,395 --> 00:24:06,978
Everything looked distorted.
512
00:24:14,164 --> 00:24:16,007
What number was that, four?
513
00:24:23,239 --> 00:24:25,072
Come on! Come on!
514
00:24:27,972 --> 00:24:29,884
- Who is it?
- Detectives, Ms. Stocklash.
515
00:24:29,884 --> 00:24:31,774
We'd like to ask you a few questions.
516
00:24:32,844 --> 00:24:34,974
Everything okay in there?
517
00:24:37,513 --> 00:24:39,372
What do we have here?
Ray Gunther.
518
00:24:39,372 --> 00:24:41,053
You okay? / Nope.
519
00:24:41,053 --> 00:24:42,153
Good.
520
00:24:42,678 --> 00:24:44,932
Ray? Did you hurt him?
521
00:24:44,932 --> 00:24:46,327
Did they hurt you, Ray?
522
00:24:46,327 --> 00:24:47,444
Don't you touch him!
523
00:24:47,444 --> 00:24:48,735
You shut the hell up!
524
00:24:48,735 --> 00:24:49,794
He didn't do nothing.
525
00:24:49,794 --> 00:24:51,636
I said, shut up!
526
00:24:52,884 --> 00:24:55,062
I'm sorry,
what is it you think I did?
527
00:24:55,062 --> 00:24:57,436
You're under arrest for
the murder of Seth Langdon.
528
00:24:57,436 --> 00:24:58,755
You don't have jack.
529
00:24:58,755 --> 00:25:01,979
Yeah, you're right. All we have are witnesses
who put you at the building that night.
530
00:25:01,979 --> 00:25:03,197
Didn't we have something else?
531
00:25:03,197 --> 00:25:04,428
Oh, yeah.
532
00:25:04,428 --> 00:25:06,405
You left a little evidence
in the victims mouth.
533
00:25:06,405 --> 00:25:07,504
Ray!
534
00:25:07,504 --> 00:25:09,165
Don't worry,
they got the wrong guy.
535
00:25:09,165 --> 00:25:11,309
Wrong guy,
but you'll look right to the jury.
536
00:25:11,309 --> 00:25:13,522
Out one month and
back to your old tricks.
537
00:25:13,522 --> 00:25:16,471
Think you'd throw them by
switching from highways to rooftops?
538
00:25:16,471 --> 00:25:19,298
You used the same excessive force.
You beat your victims to a pulp,
539
00:25:19,298 --> 00:25:20,666
just like you did Seth, Ray.
540
00:25:20,666 --> 00:25:23,862
But you had a little trouble adjusting
back to civilian sex, didn't you, Ray?
541
00:25:23,862 --> 00:25:25,410
He didn't have no trouble.
542
00:25:25,410 --> 00:25:27,036
Shut up!
543
00:25:27,388 --> 00:25:28,663
You're a little confused.
544
00:25:28,663 --> 00:25:30,467
Okay, why Seth?
Why'd you pick him?
545
00:25:30,467 --> 00:25:33,068
- I didn't pick nobody.
- Did you even know him?
546
00:25:33,068 --> 00:25:35,057
I used to see him in the gym.
547
00:25:35,158 --> 00:25:38,002
Me and Jesse used to work out everyday.
Sometimes he'd be there.
548
00:25:38,002 --> 00:25:39,237
He was pathetic.
549
00:25:39,237 --> 00:25:41,263
Him trying to pump
up that puny body of his.
550
00:25:41,263 --> 00:25:42,923
So what happened?
What? Did he hit on you?
551
00:25:42,923 --> 00:25:45,298
Or was it you?
Did you like them puny like that?
552
00:25:45,298 --> 00:25:48,241
Now that you mention it, he did
remind me of a bitch I had in prison.
553
00:25:48,241 --> 00:25:49,224
You're pathetic.
554
00:25:49,224 --> 00:25:52,068
What's wrong,
you jealous, sweetheart?
555
00:25:52,068 --> 00:25:53,400
Easy.
556
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,977
Not sweetheart.
557
00:25:54,977 --> 00:25:57,288
That's Detective Benson, all right?
558
00:25:57,288 --> 00:25:59,354
I want an apology from you.
559
00:26:00,157 --> 00:26:03,022
I don't need an apology
from this slimebag.
560
00:26:03,712 --> 00:26:08,004
But I am starting to get really sick
of the sarcastic little remarks, Ray.
561
00:26:12,930 --> 00:26:15,403
Look, if this is about me getting
a little overzealous with Ray...
562
00:26:16,212 --> 00:26:18,284
- What are you talking about?
- Nothing. What's up?
563
00:26:19,419 --> 00:26:21,022
We got real problems here.
564
00:26:21,022 --> 00:26:22,995
The lab just got the
full DNA report back.
565
00:26:22,995 --> 00:26:23,949
Yeah, and?
566
00:26:23,949 --> 00:26:26,574
And it ain't Ray's.
567
00:26:28,159 --> 00:26:32,417
Now remember, I told you the DNA results
I gave you wouldn't stand up in court.
568
00:26:32,417 --> 00:26:35,139
All I remember is you giving
us the name Ray Gunther.
569
00:26:35,139 --> 00:26:38,830
Yeah, but when I gave you Ray's name,
it was off the quickest tests available.
570
00:26:38,830 --> 00:26:40,458
Of which there are two.
571
00:26:40,458 --> 00:26:43,429
Naturally, I assumed
the hit came from the PCR.
572
00:26:43,429 --> 00:26:46,006
As it turns out,
the results weren't from PCR
573
00:26:46,006 --> 00:26:48,823
which narrows it
down one in thousands
574
00:26:48,823 --> 00:26:52,751
as compared to RFLP which
narrows it down one in billions.
575
00:26:52,751 --> 00:26:54,805
This actually came
from the mitochonrial.
576
00:26:54,805 --> 00:26:55,835
What's the difference?
577
00:26:55,835 --> 00:26:59,076
Mitochonrial only narrows
it down to bloodline.
578
00:26:59,076 --> 00:27:01,573
So while it's definitely not Ray,
579
00:27:01,573 --> 00:27:04,871
you are still looking for
somebody from that family.
580
00:27:04,871 --> 00:27:06,845
A father, a son...
581
00:27:06,845 --> 00:27:08,734
Or a brother.
582
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,056
Okay.
583
00:27:14,395 --> 00:27:16,339
Look, here's the problem.
584
00:27:17,158 --> 00:27:20,479
We got this pain in the ass DNA.
585
00:27:22,211 --> 00:27:24,296
This make any sense to you?
586
00:27:24,296 --> 00:27:25,988
No. / Yeah, me either,
587
00:27:25,988 --> 00:27:29,023
but it just let your
brother off the hook.
588
00:27:29,132 --> 00:27:30,564
And it puts you in the hotseat.
589
00:27:30,564 --> 00:27:33,198
Which really doesn't
make any sense to us.
590
00:27:33,198 --> 00:27:36,282
We know your brother's bad,
but you've been clean your whole life.
591
00:27:36,282 --> 00:27:39,007
Can you explain this, Jesse?
592
00:27:39,143 --> 00:27:40,532
No.
593
00:27:40,532 --> 00:27:42,849
A blood sample will.
594
00:27:43,087 --> 00:27:44,543
I have to give one?
595
00:27:44,543 --> 00:27:46,363
We could hold you for 24 hours,
596
00:27:46,363 --> 00:27:49,084
during which time you know we could
get a court order for you to take it.
597
00:27:49,084 --> 00:27:50,649
I got to tell you, though,
598
00:27:50,649 --> 00:27:54,136
refusing to take
a blood test that'll clear you...
599
00:27:54,624 --> 00:27:56,694
that doesn't look good.
600
00:27:56,780 --> 00:27:58,033
Maybe...
601
00:27:58,033 --> 00:27:59,995
I should
602
00:27:59,995 --> 00:28:02,093
call a lawyer.
603
00:28:03,218 --> 00:28:05,177
You're free to go.
604
00:28:23,029 --> 00:28:25,494
At his trial in '84,
they had Ray dead to rights,
605
00:28:25,494 --> 00:28:26,936
so he made a sympathy play.
606
00:28:26,936 --> 00:28:28,475
Sympathy for a serial rapist? Right.
607
00:28:28,475 --> 00:28:30,279
What'd he say,
"Women just don't understand me"?
608
00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:35,331
No, claims he and Jesse were
raped growing up by their dad.
609
00:28:35,331 --> 00:28:36,927
The old Menendez defense.
610
00:28:36,927 --> 00:28:39,556
Could explain a few things
about good old Jesse, huh?
611
00:28:39,556 --> 00:28:41,623
Except the prosecution
put Jesse on the stand
612
00:28:41,623 --> 00:28:44,641
and he said that Ray
completely fabricated the story.
613
00:28:44,641 --> 00:28:46,403
So how do we know
which one is lying?
614
00:28:46,403 --> 00:28:48,811
Don't worry,
I'm sure he'll have plenty to say
615
00:28:48,811 --> 00:28:51,044
once we get the goahead
to take his blood.
616
00:28:51,044 --> 00:28:53,452
How about you guys?
You find anything?
617
00:28:53,452 --> 00:28:55,562
Just a pisspoor gene pool.
618
00:28:55,562 --> 00:28:57,550
You think Jesse was just born bad?
619
00:28:57,550 --> 00:28:59,628
??
Destiny isn't predetermined.
620
00:28:59,628 --> 00:29:02,208
I don't know, there've been
cases of twins separated at birth,
621
00:29:02,208 --> 00:29:04,102
growing up in completely
different environments,
622
00:29:04,102 --> 00:29:06,772
who go on to commit
crimes with the same MOs.
623
00:29:06,772 --> 00:29:09,536
It's eerie. / Actually, They've
proven transplanting genes
624
00:29:09,536 --> 00:29:12,509
from one species to
another can alter behavior.
625
00:29:12,509 --> 00:29:14,667
We're not rats, we're humans.
626
00:29:14,667 --> 00:29:17,655
It all comes down to how you were raised.
You instill morals, values,
627
00:29:17,655 --> 00:29:20,067
the kid'll turn out all right.
If not, then you got trouble.
628
00:29:20,067 --> 00:29:21,789
Nature, nurture, ad nauseum...
629
00:29:21,789 --> 00:29:23,834
you're assuming
a level playing field at birth.
630
00:29:23,834 --> 00:29:25,488
I don't know that there is.
631
00:29:30,087 --> 00:29:31,644
Hey, something wrong?
632
00:29:31,644 --> 00:29:33,507
It's just hitting a little close to home.
633
00:29:33,507 --> 00:29:34,865
How's that?
634
00:29:36,140 --> 00:29:38,624
The only way that
Jesse makes sense in all this,
635
00:29:39,288 --> 00:29:42,377
is that they're fruit of
the same poisoned tree.
636
00:29:42,757 --> 00:29:44,886
You don't really believe that, do you?
637
00:29:51,261 --> 00:29:54,758
I understand your DNA tech
pulled a little Arkansas twostep.
638
00:29:54,758 --> 00:29:56,478
Actually took you to the brother first.
639
00:29:56,478 --> 00:29:58,633
Yeah, he's been ruled out.
640
00:29:58,633 --> 00:30:01,636
The only way his name came up at all was
because it was the same bloodline.
641
00:30:01,636 --> 00:30:05,010
Jesse's lawyer is already
waving the old ACLU banner
642
00:30:05,010 --> 00:30:06,351
asking, "Where does it stop?"
643
00:30:06,351 --> 00:30:08,736
"Are we going to test
every relative of Ray Gunther's?"
644
00:30:08,736 --> 00:30:12,091
No, just the one who
lives in the victim's building.
645
00:30:12,701 --> 00:30:15,040
I fasttracked the hearing
on the blood test for tomorrow.
646
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,146
It would be nice to have a safety net.
What have you got besides DNA?
647
00:30:18,146 --> 00:30:21,292
What we've got are lawyers
sandbaging us at every turn.
648
00:30:21,292 --> 00:30:23,956
Right, the video.
649
00:30:24,187 --> 00:30:25,182
What video?
650
00:30:25,182 --> 00:30:27,831
Only Seth at a party
minutes before his death.
651
00:30:27,831 --> 00:30:30,104
But that is tied up in litigation, too.
652
00:30:30,104 --> 00:30:32,199
Any way of getting it untied?
653
00:30:34,024 --> 00:30:37,269
Let me see if I can make
an end run of my own.
654
00:30:43,661 --> 00:30:45,571
Officer Bandolini.
655
00:30:46,156 --> 00:30:49,334
My representative is not
going to be happy about this.
656
00:30:49,457 --> 00:30:52,222
I realize I'm bending procedure here.
657
00:30:52,222 --> 00:30:54,484
I appreciate you meeting with me.
658
00:30:56,808 --> 00:30:58,861
You know we need that tape.
659
00:30:58,861 --> 00:31:01,116
And you know what it can do to me.
660
00:31:01,565 --> 00:31:03,624
Oh, yeah.
661
00:31:07,244 --> 00:31:10,193
In 1926,
662
00:31:10,193 --> 00:31:13,086
Bobby Jones was
winning the US Open.
663
00:31:13,086 --> 00:31:14,919
He hits his ball into the woods.
664
00:31:14,919 --> 00:31:17,505
He removes a leaf from under
the ball and accidentally moves it.
665
00:31:17,505 --> 00:31:19,195
Now, nobody sees this.
666
00:31:19,195 --> 00:31:21,910
He hits it out, saves par.
667
00:31:22,589 --> 00:31:24,905
I assume there's a point to this story.
668
00:31:24,905 --> 00:31:27,208
Mr. Jones did the honorable thing.
669
00:31:27,208 --> 00:31:29,166
He declared the penalty.
670
00:31:29,984 --> 00:31:32,081
And he went on to win the Open?
671
00:31:32,081 --> 00:31:34,775
No, he lost by a stroke.
672
00:31:35,939 --> 00:31:38,864
But he said he never
lost any sleep over it
673
00:31:38,864 --> 00:31:42,499
because he did the right thing.
674
00:31:42,598 --> 00:31:44,549
That was just a game.
675
00:31:44,549 --> 00:31:47,125
This is my life we're talking about.
676
00:31:48,283 --> 00:31:50,814
And how are you sleeping?
677
00:31:56,071 --> 00:31:58,614
I don't know why I brought
the damn camcorder to the party.
678
00:31:59,446 --> 00:32:02,305
That's what I keep
kicking myself over.
679
00:32:02,547 --> 00:32:05,142
There's nothing illegal
or criminal on that tape,
680
00:32:05,142 --> 00:32:06,069
but the consequences...
681
00:32:06,069 --> 00:32:09,819
I will do everything in my power
to make sure there aren't any.
682
00:32:10,579 --> 00:32:12,897
You have my word on that.
683
00:32:25,021 --> 00:32:28,799
You planned on handing
this over all along, didn't you?
684
00:32:28,928 --> 00:32:30,831
Yeah.
685
00:32:31,632 --> 00:32:34,835
But I enjoyed the golf story.
686
00:32:40,683 --> 00:32:42,674
Okay, that's Seth.
687
00:32:44,899 --> 00:32:47,641
Okay, fast forward. Forward.
688
00:32:47,641 --> 00:32:49,466
Forward. / Stop!
689
00:32:50,384 --> 00:32:51,826
Rewind and play.
690
00:32:52,574 --> 00:32:53,795
Stop.
691
00:32:53,795 --> 00:32:56,813
Enhance section A6.
692
00:32:56,899 --> 00:32:58,868
Zoom in on the door.
693
00:33:01,110 --> 00:33:02,960
Yep, there's Jesse.
694
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,295
Let's see if he joins the party.
695
00:33:04,295 --> 00:33:06,527
You know a lot about
video analyzing, Munch.
696
00:33:06,527 --> 00:33:08,088
I dabble a little.
697
00:33:09,181 --> 00:33:10,632
Damn it,
he didn't even come in.
698
00:33:11,353 --> 00:33:13,187
Forward.
699
00:33:16,992 --> 00:33:18,727
Stop!
700
00:33:18,727 --> 00:33:21,189
Go back to the part
about the door again.
701
00:33:23,634 --> 00:33:26,081
Go back to just
before the door opened.
702
00:33:32,639 --> 00:33:34,287
Stop!
703
00:33:34,287 --> 00:33:36,787
Zoom in on the mirror.
704
00:33:41,862 --> 00:33:44,361
That ain't Jesse. That's Ray.
705
00:33:45,270 --> 00:33:47,027
Back to Ray.
706
00:33:47,027 --> 00:33:48,533
We need to talk to Lorraine again
707
00:33:48,533 --> 00:33:51,476
find out what time each
of them actually came back.
708
00:33:53,248 --> 00:33:55,259
I told you,
Jesse came right back down.
709
00:33:55,259 --> 00:33:56,395
And Ray didn't come with him?
710
00:33:56,395 --> 00:33:58,259
No, we went
to bed right after that.
711
00:33:58,259 --> 00:34:02,590
Mrs. Hansen, I need to tell you that
providing a false alibi is a felony.
712
00:34:02,590 --> 00:34:05,556
It's insane you have my husband
accused of his brother's crime.
713
00:34:05,556 --> 00:34:08,949
Ray has been hellbent on
destroying Jesse his whole life.
714
00:34:08,949 --> 00:34:10,991
Why? Why would he
want to do that to him?
715
00:34:10,991 --> 00:34:12,513
I don't know.
716
00:34:18,128 --> 00:34:21,932
Ray would call from
prison every week,
717
00:34:22,291 --> 00:34:25,703
until Jesse would finally
cave in and go see him.
718
00:34:25,995 --> 00:34:27,849
And after the visits,
719
00:34:27,849 --> 00:34:31,885
Jesse would come home and
go into these deep depressions.
720
00:34:32,630 --> 00:34:34,899
He wouldn't talk to me about it.
721
00:34:35,141 --> 00:34:40,144
He'd just go on these alcohol binges
722
00:34:40,144 --> 00:34:43,624
and disappear,
sometimes even for days.
723
00:34:44,902 --> 00:34:47,588
That must have been
really hard for you.
724
00:34:47,803 --> 00:34:51,232
When he came back,
he'd be his old self again.
725
00:34:51,313 --> 00:34:54,234
I promise you, Jesse's a good man.
726
00:34:54,234 --> 00:34:56,092
It's his brother that's poison.
727
00:34:56,092 --> 00:34:57,608
I can't say we disagree with you.
728
00:34:57,608 --> 00:35:00,206
The problem is,
it's not Ray's seminal fluid
729
00:35:00,206 --> 00:35:02,766
we found in Seth's mouth.
730
00:35:03,170 --> 00:35:05,644
But it's definitely
the same bloodline.
731
00:35:05,644 --> 00:35:07,104
You're lying.
732
00:35:07,104 --> 00:35:08,593
Mrs. Hansen...
733
00:35:10,308 --> 00:35:13,597
why do you think Jesse
won't give us the blood test?
734
00:35:19,619 --> 00:35:22,829
Ray came over at 7:00.
735
00:35:23,586 --> 00:35:26,198
He drank the whole night again.
736
00:35:26,198 --> 00:35:28,784
He went up at 1:00
737
00:35:28,784 --> 00:35:30,421
about the music
738
00:35:30,421 --> 00:35:33,101
and Jesse did come
right back down, alone.
739
00:35:33,101 --> 00:35:34,397
Then what happened?
740
00:35:34,397 --> 00:35:37,098
Ray came back a few minutes later,
741
00:35:37,203 --> 00:35:40,255
dragged Jesse out with him...
742
00:35:44,272 --> 00:35:47,804
Jesse didn't come home till after 2:00.
743
00:35:53,653 --> 00:35:55,940
It was a joke. / A joke?
744
00:35:56,191 --> 00:35:57,819
We'd see that little fag in the gym...
745
00:35:57,819 --> 00:35:59,141
That was Seth.
746
00:35:59,141 --> 00:36:01,204
Right, Seth.
747
00:36:01,336 --> 00:36:03,800
When we'd see that
little fag, Seth, in the gym,
748
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,749
I'd rib Jesse that
it was his girlfriend.
749
00:36:05,749 --> 00:36:08,435
- That's hysterical.
- Oh, it gets funnier.
750
00:36:08,435 --> 00:36:10,181
I'd catch his eye,
751
00:36:10,181 --> 00:36:11,657
nod over to Jesse,
752
00:36:11,657 --> 00:36:13,478
and wink.
753
00:36:13,478 --> 00:36:16,524
Seth would blush
like a little schoolgirl.
754
00:36:16,524 --> 00:36:18,829
- I'm still waiting for the punchline.
- It came that night.
755
00:36:19,073 --> 00:36:23,313
Start with going up to the party
because we have you on tape, with Seth.
756
00:36:23,866 --> 00:36:25,809
When they opened the door,
757
00:36:25,809 --> 00:36:27,998
I see him looking out.
758
00:36:28,204 --> 00:36:29,829
I go right in to the old bit.
759
00:36:29,829 --> 00:36:32,055
I nod over to Jesse
760
00:36:32,055 --> 00:36:34,636
and give Seth a big old wink.
761
00:36:36,218 --> 00:36:37,752
When the door closes,
762
00:36:37,752 --> 00:36:40,487
I ask Jesse if he saw his girlfriend.
763
00:36:40,884 --> 00:36:42,641
He throws a punch,
764
00:36:42,641 --> 00:36:44,957
but he's so plastered
he misses by a mile.
765
00:36:44,957 --> 00:36:46,804
Then he staggers off down the hall.
766
00:36:46,804 --> 00:36:47,957
And you wait?
767
00:36:47,957 --> 00:36:48,815
Yep...
768
00:36:48,815 --> 00:36:51,259
and out prances Seth.
769
00:36:51,259 --> 00:36:53,784
I put my arm around him and say,
770
00:36:53,784 --> 00:36:56,324
"Go up on the roof,
Jesse'll be right up."
771
00:36:56,324 --> 00:36:58,622
Then you went
and you got Jesse.
772
00:36:58,622 --> 00:37:00,132
Why?
773
00:37:00,379 --> 00:37:02,975
Sibling rivalry.
774
00:37:10,808 --> 00:37:13,711
Our daddy did
everything I said he did.
775
00:37:14,788 --> 00:37:18,084
Jesse should've been a man
and stood up for me at my trial.
776
00:37:18,084 --> 00:37:19,735
Jesse was 15 when you were tried.
777
00:37:19,735 --> 00:37:22,043
15 is a lot of years.
778
00:37:23,252 --> 00:37:25,131
Someone had
to serve because of him.
779
00:37:25,131 --> 00:37:26,831
I could've been out in five.
780
00:37:27,216 --> 00:37:29,070
You did 15 because of what you did,
781
00:37:29,070 --> 00:37:30,736
not Jesse.
782
00:37:34,697 --> 00:37:36,449
I think it's horrible
783
00:37:36,449 --> 00:37:38,523
that my baby brother killed a man,
784
00:37:38,523 --> 00:37:39,805
but...
785
00:37:39,805 --> 00:37:41,268
he did.
786
00:37:41,268 --> 00:37:44,835
And as much as you'd like to,
787
00:37:45,116 --> 00:37:46,695
you can't pin it on me.
788
00:37:46,695 --> 00:37:48,878
- I had nothing to do with it.
- You set it up.
789
00:37:50,819 --> 00:37:54,141
I set up a practical joke.
790
00:37:55,748 --> 00:37:58,055
Is there a law against that?
791
00:38:03,228 --> 00:38:05,694
Ray told us everything, Jesse.
792
00:38:07,158 --> 00:38:09,816
Your brother set you up.
793
00:38:09,934 --> 00:38:13,738
I lied at his trial.
794
00:38:13,997 --> 00:38:17,068
Ray was telling the truth.
795
00:38:17,563 --> 00:38:21,462
Our father really
did do those things.
796
00:38:21,462 --> 00:38:23,140
To both of you?
797
00:38:24,008 --> 00:38:26,245
I tried to forget.
798
00:38:26,490 --> 00:38:28,969
Ray wouldn't let me.
799
00:38:30,058 --> 00:38:33,149
Even as kids he would tell me
800
00:38:33,149 --> 00:38:36,030
how awful it was for him,
but that I liked it.
801
00:38:36,030 --> 00:38:37,893
Nobody thinks that, Jesse.
802
00:38:37,893 --> 00:38:40,069
You were only seven years old.
803
00:38:41,326 --> 00:38:45,194
Whenever I'd visit Ray at SingSing,
804
00:38:45,194 --> 00:38:48,514
he'd tell me, "You just wait,
805
00:38:48,514 --> 00:38:51,016
you'll end up here sooner or later.
806
00:38:51,016 --> 00:38:53,804
It's your legacy."
807
00:38:54,939 --> 00:38:58,120
Jesse, tell us
what happened on the roof.
808
00:38:58,509 --> 00:39:00,325
I was wasted.
809
00:39:00,325 --> 00:39:03,091
I don't even remember
how I got there.
810
00:39:03,091 --> 00:39:05,228
All...
811
00:39:05,228 --> 00:39:07,271
all I could hear was
812
00:39:07,271 --> 00:39:11,210
Ray's voice drawing me up there.
813
00:39:11,324 --> 00:39:14,596
It didn't seem real.
814
00:39:15,126 --> 00:39:19,003
Someone was on their knees...
815
00:39:19,613 --> 00:39:21,832
and...
816
00:39:23,152 --> 00:39:27,715
my pants were down...
817
00:39:27,715 --> 00:39:30,334
and...
818
00:39:32,643 --> 00:39:34,988
I don't know.
819
00:39:35,346 --> 00:39:37,908
I killed him.
820
00:39:40,107 --> 00:39:41,893
I killed him.
821
00:39:41,893 --> 00:39:43,913
I'll file charges for Man One.
822
00:39:44,148 --> 00:39:46,078
Jesse, you said that you heard
823
00:39:46,078 --> 00:39:49,051
Ray's voice drawing
you up to the rooftop.
824
00:39:49,051 --> 00:39:50,409
Abby,
825
00:39:50,409 --> 00:39:51,948
hold on.
826
00:39:52,067 --> 00:39:55,278
Could you hear his voice
once you got up there?
827
00:39:56,611 --> 00:39:59,687
I could hear him
laughing at me, yeah.
828
00:40:00,569 --> 00:40:02,605
Jesse,
829
00:40:02,605 --> 00:40:05,926
that's because
he was there, wasn't he?
830
00:40:06,366 --> 00:40:10,155
I just remember
coming out of a fog,
831
00:40:10,155 --> 00:40:13,360
and then seeing
Ray standing in the doorway.
832
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,876
He was laughing.
833
00:40:15,876 --> 00:40:18,283
And I looked down,
834
00:40:18,393 --> 00:40:22,385
and I saw what Seth was doing.
835
00:40:22,385 --> 00:40:23,902
And ...
836
00:40:23,902 --> 00:40:27,385
Ray said, "I told you."
837
00:40:27,385 --> 00:40:29,874
I told you what,
that you were gay?
838
00:40:31,091 --> 00:40:33,997
That I wanted to kill him.
839
00:40:33,997 --> 00:40:35,727
Why?
840
00:40:35,865 --> 00:40:37,827
What did he do to you?
841
00:40:37,827 --> 00:40:40,517
Not Seth, Ray.
842
00:40:40,517 --> 00:40:42,217
I wanted to kill Ray.
843
00:40:42,217 --> 00:40:45,294
I just started lashing out at him
844
00:40:45,294 --> 00:40:46,924
'cause in my mind,
845
00:40:46,924 --> 00:40:48,927
I was hitting Ray.
846
00:40:48,927 --> 00:40:54,298
But he just kept
laughing and laughing.
847
00:40:59,131 --> 00:41:02,033
I had to shut him up.
848
00:41:04,243 --> 00:41:06,671
I took his head and
849
00:41:06,671 --> 00:41:09,342
I stated bashing
850
00:41:10,043 --> 00:41:15,476
and I just bashed it
and bashed it as hard as I could.
851
00:41:21,945 --> 00:41:26,097
It was finally quiet...
852
00:41:26,097 --> 00:41:29,130
but I looked down
and it wasn't Ray,
853
00:41:29,130 --> 00:41:31,626
it was Seth.
854
00:41:31,723 --> 00:41:34,357
Where was Ray?
855
00:41:34,512 --> 00:41:36,382
He was...
856
00:41:36,382 --> 00:41:39,793
he was still standing in the doorway.
857
00:41:42,192 --> 00:41:44,133
And he said...
858
00:41:45,099 --> 00:41:48,717
he said, "Welcome to the family."
859
00:41:55,618 --> 00:41:58,468
Tell me we can charge Ray.
860
00:41:59,048 --> 00:42:00,413
Inciting a murder,
861
00:42:00,413 --> 00:42:02,915
depraved indifference, accessory...
862
00:42:02,915 --> 00:42:04,790
That's good for a start.
863
00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:07,281
With Ray's priors, he'll end up
doing more time than Jesse.
864
00:42:07,281 --> 00:42:09,012
Make sure he does, Abby.
865
00:42:12,461 --> 00:42:14,263
You heard him.
866
00:42:14,323 --> 00:42:16,841
Ray was screwing with his
brother's mind his whole life.
867
00:42:16,841 --> 00:42:18,359
It had nothing to do with blood.
868
00:42:18,359 --> 00:42:22,738
What Jesse did happened
because Jesse believed it would.
869
00:42:23,283 --> 00:42:25,128
You know that, right?
870
00:42:26,622 --> 00:42:28,864
There's something
I'm going to need to do.
871
00:42:28,864 --> 00:42:31,646
Olivia, what good is it
going to do you to know?
872
00:43:13,170 --> 00:43:15,899
He's not my father.
873
00:43:16,012 --> 00:43:18,371
You sure?
874
00:43:20,579 --> 00:43:22,431
Positive.
875
00:43:31,406 --> 00:43:34,445
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