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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,405 --> 00:00:03,187 In the criminal justice system, 2 00:00:03,187 --> 00:00:06,868 sexually-based offenses are considered especially heinous. 3 00:00:06,868 --> 00:00:08,088 In New York City, 4 00:00:08,088 --> 00:00:11,584 the dedicated detectives who investigate these vicious felonies are members 5 00:00:11,584 --> 00:00:14,604 of an elite squad known as The Special Victims Unit. 6 00:00:14,604 --> 00:00:16,838 These are their stories. 7 00:00:18,287 --> 00:00:19,322 What've we got? 8 00:00:19,322 --> 00:00:21,418 A dead victim, head bashed in, 9 00:00:21,418 --> 00:00:22,989 privates exposed. 10 00:00:22,989 --> 00:00:27,670 Tech found seminal fluid on the face, legs and mouth, and we thought of you. 11 00:00:27,670 --> 00:00:29,330 Was she a resident of the building? 12 00:00:29,330 --> 00:00:30,691 He. 13 00:00:35,513 --> 00:00:36,984 We've ID'd him as Seth Langdon. 14 00:00:36,984 --> 00:00:38,774 He lived in the building on the sixth floor. 15 00:00:38,774 --> 00:00:42,264 Nice twobedroom but he lived alone as far as we could tell. 16 00:00:42,264 --> 00:00:44,808 Looks like this is where it went down. 17 00:00:44,958 --> 00:00:47,706 This guy didn't die quietly. 18 00:00:47,822 --> 00:00:49,228 Somebody must've heard something. 19 00:00:49,228 --> 00:00:51,910 They did. There was a loud party in the building in 3B. 20 00:00:51,910 --> 00:00:54,344 Pretty ironic ending, don't you think? 21 00:00:54,344 --> 00:00:55,453 Why's that? 22 00:00:55,453 --> 00:00:57,604 Well, him being Seth Langdon and all. 23 00:00:57,604 --> 00:00:59,783 Son of William H. Langdon? 24 00:00:59,783 --> 00:01:01,283 Head of The Moral Coalition? 25 00:01:01,283 --> 00:01:04,309 Yeah, the guy who's always going around preaching about good clean wholesome living. 26 00:01:04,309 --> 00:01:07,169 Believes homosexuality can be cured. 27 00:01:07,727 --> 00:01:09,573 That's one way to fix 'em. 28 00:01:43,905 --> 00:01:45,708 Subtitles by Korea NSC Subtitle Team (http://club.nate.com/tsm) 29 00:01:46,596 --> 00:01:50,377 Law & Order SVU 1x10 Closure (1) 30 00:01:53,339 --> 00:01:56,233 ORIGINAL AIR DATE ON NBC: 2000/01/07 31 00:02:02,498 --> 00:02:03,776 What's going on? 32 00:02:03,776 --> 00:02:05,338 Here, John. 33 00:02:05,338 --> 00:02:06,252 What's this? 34 00:02:06,252 --> 00:02:08,440 Police union found us better health insurance. 35 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,840 This form is longer than the last book I read. 36 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,331 Don't you see what they're doing? 37 00:02:12,331 --> 00:02:14,115 They're looking out for you, Munch. 38 00:02:14,115 --> 00:02:16,864 Psychiatric coverage increased to 80%/2. 39 00:02:16,864 --> 00:02:18,742 Relax, it's just a medical form. 40 00:02:18,742 --> 00:02:21,490 Right, as soon as they find out that your mother had diabetes 41 00:02:21,490 --> 00:02:23,418 or that your father had male pattern baldness... 42 00:02:23,418 --> 00:02:24,472 sorry, Chief... 43 00:02:24,472 --> 00:02:27,477 they'll have your entire genealogical... not to mention, genetic fingerprint. 44 00:02:27,477 --> 00:02:28,848 They'll know when you're gonna die, 45 00:02:28,848 --> 00:02:31,785 how it's gonna occur and what song you want sung at your funeral. 46 00:02:32,021 --> 00:02:34,504 There's two "r"s in hemorrhoids. 47 00:02:34,853 --> 00:02:36,770 I'm a desk jockey, what do you want from me? 48 00:02:36,770 --> 00:02:37,828 See, she's got the right idea. 49 00:02:37,828 --> 00:02:40,528 Leave the father's side blank, that'll mess 'em up. 50 00:02:40,528 --> 00:02:42,863 Let's keep our eyes on our own paper. 51 00:02:43,182 --> 00:02:46,153 Okay, talk to me about our rooftop homicide, people. 52 00:02:46,153 --> 00:02:47,409 Name's Seth Langdon. 53 00:02:47,409 --> 00:02:49,517 White male, 21. 54 00:02:49,517 --> 00:02:52,190 He was at a party on the third floor of his building, 55 00:02:52,190 --> 00:02:54,574 made his way up to the rooftop around 1:00 am., 56 00:02:54,574 --> 00:02:56,560 there was seminal fluid found on the victim... 57 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,400 we're assuming it's premortem. 58 00:02:58,400 --> 00:02:59,764 Genitals were exposed. 59 00:02:59,764 --> 00:03:04,170 He was beat up pretty good, culminating in his head being bashed up against the AC unit. 60 00:03:04,170 --> 00:03:07,140 - Lover's quarrel. - Sexual predator from the party? 61 00:03:07,140 --> 00:03:09,846 Initial ME report has two types of seminal fluid... 62 00:03:09,846 --> 00:03:12,306 - one the victim's... - The other the doer's? 63 00:03:12,595 --> 00:03:16,021 What do you say we start with the hosts, work our way through the guest list. 64 00:03:16,368 --> 00:03:19,596 Langdon? I just read this piece about William Langdon, 65 00:03:19,596 --> 00:03:23,144 spouting off about how homosexuals can be cured. 66 00:03:23,187 --> 00:03:25,526 - Victim was his son. - Get out of here. 67 00:03:25,597 --> 00:03:27,273 One out of every 10 men is gay. 68 00:03:27,273 --> 00:03:30,920 Let's see how Mr. Langdon felt about that statistic hitting home. 69 00:03:36,571 --> 00:03:38,440 Don't make any more barbs about Benson's father. 70 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,061 Excuse me? 71 00:03:40,884 --> 00:03:42,263 You don't know the history there? 72 00:03:42,263 --> 00:03:44,933 No, what was he, an alcoholic? 73 00:03:45,935 --> 00:03:47,814 Deadbeat dad? Jehovah's Witness? 74 00:03:47,814 --> 00:03:51,558 The only thing she knows about him was he was the man who raped her mother. 75 00:03:54,737 --> 00:03:57,632 Moral Coalition 520 West 69th Street Monday, November 22 76 00:03:57,899 --> 00:03:59,975 Excuse me, who are you? 77 00:03:59,975 --> 00:04:01,204 How did you get by reception? 78 00:04:01,204 --> 00:04:04,636 We're Detectives Benson and Stabler. We need to see William Langdon. 79 00:04:04,636 --> 00:04:06,425 Mr. Langdon's not seeing anyone today. 80 00:04:06,425 --> 00:04:08,849 We're not here selling Amway. 81 00:04:10,622 --> 00:04:12,504 It's all right, Steven, 82 00:04:12,504 --> 00:04:14,070 you can let them in. 83 00:04:17,468 --> 00:04:20,811 Do you have any idea who might want to do this to your son? 84 00:04:20,811 --> 00:04:21,869 No. 85 00:04:21,869 --> 00:04:23,892 Was he involved with anyone? 86 00:04:24,218 --> 00:04:25,620 Did he have a boyfriend? 87 00:04:25,620 --> 00:04:27,580 Or boyfriends? 88 00:04:28,214 --> 00:04:30,808 My son was not a homosexual. 89 00:04:30,808 --> 00:04:34,864 Mr. Langdon, you are aware of the circumstances of your son's death? 90 00:04:35,904 --> 00:04:37,927 Seth was merely... 91 00:04:37,927 --> 00:04:40,656 going through a rebellious phase, all children do. 92 00:04:40,656 --> 00:04:42,945 We had it under control. 93 00:04:42,945 --> 00:04:46,773 Just how do you control a person's natural sexual orientation? 94 00:04:46,773 --> 00:04:48,906 Homosexuality is not natural. 95 00:04:48,906 --> 00:04:50,729 It is a crime against God. 96 00:04:50,729 --> 00:04:52,760 And AIDS is divine retribution. 97 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:54,639 Are you being flippant with me? 98 00:04:54,639 --> 00:04:58,257 We're really just trying to find your son's killer, Mr. Langdon. 99 00:04:58,604 --> 00:05:00,868 That's our only agenda here. 100 00:05:02,089 --> 00:05:05,116 Seth was so confused. 101 00:05:07,906 --> 00:05:10,779 I did everything I could to help him. 102 00:05:11,467 --> 00:05:15,208 I got him into one of those sexual rehabilitation centers. 103 00:05:16,091 --> 00:05:19,392 They have an excellent success rate. 104 00:05:21,913 --> 00:05:24,913 Seth completed the program two months ago. 105 00:05:25,034 --> 00:05:27,552 Meaning he was "cured"? 106 00:05:27,552 --> 00:05:29,495 Yes. 107 00:05:29,956 --> 00:05:31,969 So, the party got a little bit out of hand. 108 00:05:31,969 --> 00:05:33,619 Oh, I see. 109 00:05:33,619 --> 00:05:35,640 You hear "gay" and "party" 110 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:37,840 and naturally you think S & M orgy. 111 00:05:37,840 --> 00:05:41,002 No, but the last party I went to, everyone made it home alive. 112 00:05:41,002 --> 00:05:43,499 The victim's blood alcohol was 0.15. 113 00:05:43,499 --> 00:05:45,877 If you were a bartender you'd be legally responsible. 114 00:05:45,877 --> 00:05:49,536 I haven't tended bar since Studio 54 closed. 115 00:05:50,091 --> 00:05:52,103 Think... did anybody, for any reason, 116 00:05:52,103 --> 00:05:54,112 stand out that night in one way or another? 117 00:05:54,112 --> 00:05:56,233 If they didn't, they wouldn't have gotten in the door. 118 00:05:56,233 --> 00:05:58,539 Our guests were very prominent members of the community. 119 00:05:58,539 --> 00:06:01,712 Prominent or not, we need their names and addresses. 120 00:06:01,712 --> 00:06:03,341 How well did you know Seth? 121 00:06:03,341 --> 00:06:04,735 He just moved in recently. 122 00:06:04,735 --> 00:06:08,424 I guess we saw him a handful of times in the building's gym. 123 00:06:08,424 --> 00:06:10,210 He's a nice kid. 124 00:06:10,210 --> 00:06:12,306 Still finding himself... so much turmoil. 125 00:06:12,306 --> 00:06:14,632 Seth hook up with anybody at this party? 126 00:06:14,632 --> 00:06:17,194 On the contrary, you might say he unhooked... 127 00:06:17,194 --> 00:06:19,713 from the goodlooking blond gentleman he walked in the door with. 128 00:06:19,713 --> 00:06:20,904 This man have a name? 129 00:06:20,904 --> 00:06:22,848 He didn't stay long enough for us to catch it. 130 00:06:22,848 --> 00:06:24,982 After one drink, Seth got a little flirtatious. 131 00:06:24,982 --> 00:06:27,201 His friend got upset and insisted they leave. 132 00:06:27,201 --> 00:06:29,774 The next thing, they're exchanging words in the hallway. 133 00:06:29,774 --> 00:06:30,807 They leave together? 134 00:06:30,807 --> 00:06:31,687 No. 135 00:06:31,687 --> 00:06:33,913 Seth came back in by himself, 136 00:06:33,913 --> 00:06:36,731 grabbed a bottle of beer and headed for the balcony, 137 00:06:36,731 --> 00:06:38,358 we assumed, to cool down. 138 00:06:38,358 --> 00:06:41,007 What happened on the roof was outside of our world. 139 00:06:41,007 --> 00:06:43,738 This was a very civilized gathering. 140 00:06:43,738 --> 00:06:45,087 "Just stay out of my life!" 141 00:06:45,087 --> 00:06:48,222 And then we hear a beer bottle smash outside our window. 142 00:06:48,222 --> 00:06:49,567 Is this your apartment? 143 00:06:49,567 --> 00:06:51,204 Yeah, the ground floor apartment. 144 00:06:51,204 --> 00:06:53,568 It's the only way we can afford this building. 145 00:06:53,568 --> 00:06:58,846 On top of which I do light maintenance and my husband's the weekend super. 146 00:06:58,948 --> 00:07:02,313 These are the detectives investigating that man's murder. 147 00:07:02,675 --> 00:07:04,541 Can't believe it happened. 148 00:07:04,541 --> 00:07:06,565 What do you know about the parties in 3B? 149 00:07:06,565 --> 00:07:08,178 Normally they're quiet. 150 00:07:08,178 --> 00:07:12,341 Except last night, we get three phone calls complaining about the music. 151 00:07:12,341 --> 00:07:14,618 Finally, Jesse had to go up and talk to them. 152 00:07:14,618 --> 00:07:16,374 And what time was that? 153 00:07:16,374 --> 00:07:18,047 Around 1:00. 154 00:07:18,047 --> 00:07:20,403 By any chance, did you happen to see him at that time? 155 00:07:20,403 --> 00:07:24,719 No, I didn't go in. I just asked them to turn down the music and I left. 156 00:07:24,719 --> 00:07:26,897 When you heard the bottle smash, you look out the window? 157 00:07:26,897 --> 00:07:28,080 Yes. 158 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,941 And what'd you see? 159 00:07:30,674 --> 00:07:34,176 A blond guy getting into a Lincoln Town Car, 160 00:07:34,176 --> 00:07:36,570 you know, the chauffeurdriven type. 161 00:07:38,144 --> 00:07:39,524 Anything come up on any of the party guests? 162 00:07:39,524 --> 00:07:41,954 No, I just started inputting them. 163 00:07:45,047 --> 00:07:46,434 What? 164 00:07:46,434 --> 00:07:48,651 Your father comment I made earlier, 165 00:07:48,651 --> 00:07:51,105 I didn't know he was a... you know. 166 00:07:51,105 --> 00:07:53,094 A rapist. 167 00:07:53,223 --> 00:07:54,918 I know. 168 00:07:54,992 --> 00:07:56,201 Listen, 169 00:07:56,201 --> 00:07:58,257 Cragen and Stabler know. Otherwise l... 170 00:07:58,257 --> 00:07:59,331 Got it. 171 00:07:59,331 --> 00:08:01,662 - Thanks. - Ever catch the guy? 172 00:08:01,662 --> 00:08:03,912 - Nope. - Were there any leads at the time? 173 00:08:04,664 --> 00:08:06,170 Nope. 174 00:08:06,909 --> 00:08:08,770 You ever need to talk to anybody, 175 00:08:08,770 --> 00:08:10,776 I'm here. 176 00:08:10,998 --> 00:08:11,974 Okay. 177 00:08:11,974 --> 00:08:14,280 Hey, we got the kid on the car service. 178 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,871 The man picked up in front of the victim's building, 179 00:08:16,871 --> 00:08:19,383 was driven to a brownstone on the Upper East Side. 180 00:08:19,383 --> 00:08:21,351 Name is Steven Hale. 181 00:08:21,604 --> 00:08:22,914 Good. 182 00:08:26,493 --> 00:08:29,983 Home Of Steven Hale 259 East 76th Street Tuesday, November 23 183 00:08:33,609 --> 00:08:35,550 What are you doing here? 184 00:08:35,625 --> 00:08:37,714 You're boss had no idea, did he? 185 00:08:38,091 --> 00:08:39,045 About what? 186 00:08:39,045 --> 00:08:40,712 What you did to his son. 187 00:08:40,820 --> 00:08:42,295 Daddy, 188 00:08:42,510 --> 00:08:44,278 let's go! 189 00:08:55,342 --> 00:08:57,379 Why would a gay man work for Langdon, 190 00:08:57,379 --> 00:08:59,729 one of the most conservative bigots in the country? 191 00:08:59,729 --> 00:09:03,030 Hale's not exactly open about his sexuality. 192 00:09:03,125 --> 00:09:06,949 Don't you think Hale's wife and kid think he has an uncanny ability to accessorize? 193 00:09:06,949 --> 00:09:07,917 Have you seen him? 194 00:09:07,917 --> 00:09:10,564 - He doesn't accessorize all that well. - Maybe Hale's not gay. 195 00:09:10,564 --> 00:09:11,661 Right. 196 00:09:11,661 --> 00:09:12,752 How do you prove it? 197 00:09:12,752 --> 00:09:14,869 One very tried and true way... jealousy. 198 00:09:14,869 --> 00:09:18,151 Witnesses said Hale was jealous when Seth started hitting on other guys. 199 00:09:18,151 --> 00:09:19,795 Ah, the old greeneyed monster. 200 00:09:19,795 --> 00:09:23,043 Maybe Hale thought that by working for Langdon he'd be cured. 201 00:09:23,043 --> 00:09:26,384 Like Langdon thought Camp Wild Bunch cured his own son. 202 00:09:26,384 --> 00:09:27,565 And Daddy knows best. 203 00:09:27,565 --> 00:09:29,379 And makes damn sure everyone else knows it. 204 00:09:29,379 --> 00:09:32,232 I don't know how people, smart people, 205 00:09:32,232 --> 00:09:34,640 educated people, think that way. 206 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,190 I mean actually think you can change the way somebody's wired. 207 00:09:37,190 --> 00:09:40,379 You know anyone who would actually choose to be gay... 208 00:09:40,379 --> 00:09:43,146 risk family rejection... 209 00:09:43,146 --> 00:09:45,606 - discrimination? - I mean, Choose all that heartache? 210 00:09:45,606 --> 00:09:47,447 Heartache is not unique to being gay. 211 00:09:47,447 --> 00:09:49,250 But I know what you mean. 212 00:09:49,250 --> 00:09:52,663 In those camps one of the treatments is electroshock therapy to the groin. 213 00:09:52,663 --> 00:09:55,392 - Sound familiar? - Yeah, Avenal's tried it on sex offenders. 214 00:09:55,392 --> 00:09:57,053 Yeah. With much the same success. 215 00:09:57,053 --> 00:09:58,653 You're saying we're like William H. Langdon? 216 00:09:58,653 --> 00:10:01,671 No, we don't try to rewire people. We try to contain them. 217 00:10:01,770 --> 00:10:04,442 Look at him. Steven Hale is fuming. 218 00:10:04,442 --> 00:10:07,090 He's been living a lie, we happen to catch him at it. 219 00:10:07,090 --> 00:10:08,218 Of course he's mad. 220 00:10:08,218 --> 00:10:10,088 Specifically, he's mad at you. 221 00:10:11,302 --> 00:10:13,135 Which is why we thought you'd have better luck with him. 222 00:10:13,135 --> 00:10:16,092 Yeah, you're smart and God knows you're patient. 223 00:10:24,063 --> 00:10:26,549 I am not a homosexual! 224 00:10:26,664 --> 00:10:28,030 Okay. 225 00:10:28,030 --> 00:10:31,045 Part of my job was to keep an eye on Seth. 226 00:10:31,586 --> 00:10:34,638 Mr. Langdon is seriously eyeing a run for a congressional seat, 227 00:10:34,638 --> 00:10:38,060 but the scandal of an openly homosexual son... 228 00:10:38,549 --> 00:10:42,740 Look at the damage the lesbian sister caused Newt. 229 00:10:42,839 --> 00:10:44,771 Actually, she was a halfsister. 230 00:10:44,771 --> 00:10:49,513 She may have been a halfsister but unfortunately for Newt, she was all lesbian. 231 00:10:52,417 --> 00:10:55,659 You don't think Newt's problems had anything to do with his ethics violations 232 00:10:55,659 --> 00:10:59,854 or him being a pedantic megalomaniac who espouses family values 233 00:10:59,854 --> 00:11:02,609 while serving his cancerstricken wife with divorce papers 234 00:11:02,609 --> 00:11:04,647 while she's on her hospital deathbed? 235 00:11:04,647 --> 00:11:06,953 Did that ever occur to you? 236 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,994 Anybody know where Cassidy is? 237 00:11:10,057 --> 00:11:13,540 Seth didn't show up at his father's fundraiser that night, 238 00:11:13,540 --> 00:11:15,484 Mr. Langdon asked me to check up on him. 239 00:11:15,484 --> 00:11:18,903 But when I got to his floor, Seth brushed right by me. 240 00:11:18,903 --> 00:11:21,451 I followed, giving him a piece of my mind, 241 00:11:21,451 --> 00:11:24,145 and the next thing I knew, 242 00:11:24,145 --> 00:11:26,905 I find myself at that party. 243 00:11:26,905 --> 00:11:28,728 You were upset that he was flirting, right? 244 00:11:28,728 --> 00:11:31,553 Because it was revolting. 245 00:11:31,648 --> 00:11:34,664 Of course, I tried to persuade him to leave. 246 00:11:34,664 --> 00:11:36,085 He wouldn't but... 247 00:11:36,085 --> 00:11:38,764 - And what he said on the balcony? - Was not a breakup. 248 00:11:38,764 --> 00:11:42,856 "Stay out of my life" was a message to his father. 249 00:11:43,842 --> 00:11:45,820 If only I tried harder to get him away from there, 250 00:11:45,820 --> 00:11:47,554 he'd still be alive. 251 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:51,844 Okay, guys, where do we stand? 252 00:11:51,844 --> 00:11:53,996 The wife confirms that he never left the house 253 00:11:53,996 --> 00:11:56,298 after the car service dropped him off around 12:30. 254 00:11:56,298 --> 00:11:58,369 He is mentioned in the victim's journal. 255 00:11:58,369 --> 00:12:01,931 But only in pejorative terms. Believe me, No love affair there. 256 00:12:01,931 --> 00:12:05,160 And Mr. Langdon confirmed that he sent him to check on his son. 257 00:12:05,941 --> 00:12:07,351 We send Steven Hale home. 258 00:12:07,351 --> 00:12:10,313 With our apologies for the inconvenience? 259 00:12:10,313 --> 00:12:11,523 Of course. 260 00:12:11,523 --> 00:12:14,392 Okay, I guess that takes us back to the party guests. 261 00:12:14,392 --> 00:12:18,136 Yeah, I crossreferenced them against the journal, but 262 00:12:18,136 --> 00:12:19,652 no history with any of them. 263 00:12:19,652 --> 00:12:21,635 Wow, this is some shindig. 264 00:12:21,635 --> 00:12:23,697 We've got names from the "Social Register," 265 00:12:23,697 --> 00:12:26,520 an assemblyman, a major AIDS fundraiser. 266 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,307 None of whom are likely to be big fans of the victim's father. 267 00:12:29,307 --> 00:12:32,760 Prominent or not, let's check 'em all. 268 00:12:36,674 --> 00:12:38,872 Andre Lasnik? 269 00:12:39,274 --> 00:12:40,760 I'm in the middle of rehearsal here. 270 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,338 And we're in the middle of a homicide investigation. 271 00:12:46,682 --> 00:12:47,879 Seth Langdon... 272 00:12:47,879 --> 00:12:49,671 did you have any interaction with him? 273 00:12:49,671 --> 00:12:53,510 We were introduced in passing. It's horrible what happened. 274 00:12:53,510 --> 00:12:55,073 What time did you leave the party? 275 00:12:55,073 --> 00:12:56,683 After 1:00... 276 00:12:56,683 --> 00:12:59,120 with my first chair bassoon and... 277 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:00,410 another couple. 278 00:13:00,410 --> 00:13:02,578 Lee Vaughn and Joaquin Morano. 279 00:13:02,578 --> 00:13:04,401 We took a taxi to the Carlyle. 280 00:13:04,401 --> 00:13:06,932 We understand that Seth was very... 281 00:13:06,932 --> 00:13:08,466 friendly at the party. 282 00:13:08,466 --> 00:13:10,722 And that you two seemed particularly chummy. 283 00:13:10,722 --> 00:13:14,882 Look, I'm almost 20 years his senior. 284 00:13:14,882 --> 00:13:17,232 We talked about his childhood. 285 00:13:17,232 --> 00:13:20,465 I gathered, due to the dynamic with the father, 286 00:13:20,465 --> 00:13:25,770 Seth probably sought out the affections of older men or unobtainable men. 287 00:13:25,770 --> 00:13:29,389 So you of course did the noble thing? 288 00:13:30,333 --> 00:13:32,119 I admit I was torn. 289 00:13:32,119 --> 00:13:36,556 I excused myself to the restroom to get perspective. 290 00:13:36,556 --> 00:13:38,091 When I came out he was gone. 291 00:13:38,091 --> 00:13:40,211 Was anyone else gone when you got back? 292 00:13:40,211 --> 00:13:41,944 Not that I noticed. 293 00:13:41,944 --> 00:13:43,530 Maybe you could tell from the tape. 294 00:13:43,530 --> 00:13:45,123 What tape is that? 295 00:13:45,824 --> 00:13:48,721 One of the guests had a camcorder. Had it going the whole time. 296 00:13:48,721 --> 00:13:51,228 Assemblyman Rossi's boyfriend, Joe. 297 00:13:51,228 --> 00:13:53,240 Joe Bandolini. 298 00:13:54,350 --> 00:13:55,629 Officer Bandolini? 299 00:13:55,629 --> 00:13:58,162 Yeah? / Hey, can we have a few minutes of your time? 300 00:13:58,162 --> 00:13:59,729 In private? 301 00:14:12,990 --> 00:14:14,295 The Langdon case? 302 00:14:14,295 --> 00:14:16,293 We understand you have a videotape of the party. 303 00:14:16,293 --> 00:14:17,951 The party, not the murder. 304 00:14:17,951 --> 00:14:20,432 Your tape could show the events leading up to the murder. 305 00:14:20,432 --> 00:14:22,127 It doesn't. 306 00:14:22,841 --> 00:14:24,885 You mind if we judge that for ourselves? 307 00:14:24,885 --> 00:14:26,360 Actually I do. 308 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,969 I've managed to keep my personal life and the job completely separate. 309 00:14:29,969 --> 00:14:32,063 No one in my squad knows, not even my partner. 310 00:14:32,063 --> 00:14:33,449 I'd like to keep it that way. 311 00:14:33,449 --> 00:14:36,981 We are not looking to change that. This'll be handled with discretion. 312 00:14:36,981 --> 00:14:38,109 Right. 313 00:14:38,109 --> 00:14:40,895 Tape goes into evidence and somehow finds itself circulating the precinct, 314 00:14:40,895 --> 00:14:42,384 - I'm finished. - It's not gonna happen. 315 00:14:42,384 --> 00:14:44,838 You're right, it's not. 316 00:14:45,389 --> 00:14:47,283 You gonna make us get a warrant? 317 00:14:50,161 --> 00:14:51,682 Look, I'm a good cop. 318 00:14:51,682 --> 00:14:54,677 If there was anything on that tape to help your investigation, I'd tell you. 319 00:14:54,677 --> 00:14:56,422 Not good enough. 320 00:14:56,535 --> 00:14:58,785 You'll do right by us, I promise you... 321 00:14:59,007 --> 00:15:02,921 I'm promising you we'll do right by you. 322 00:15:05,068 --> 00:15:08,037 I'll come by your squadroom in the morning. 323 00:15:12,605 --> 00:15:14,830 55th Precinct Vice Squad Thusday, November 23 324 00:15:14,830 --> 00:15:16,402 How did we solve cases back then? 325 00:15:16,402 --> 00:15:20,064 No FBI link up, no DNA, no high-tech forensics. 326 00:15:20,064 --> 00:15:22,186 Cood old fashioned shoe leather. 327 00:15:22,186 --> 00:15:23,972 Was Conklin a good detective? 328 00:15:23,972 --> 00:15:26,753 One of the best, may he rest in peace. 329 00:15:26,753 --> 00:15:28,716 I wish I could've talked to him. 330 00:15:28,716 --> 00:15:31,095 Would've gotten you more than reading his notes. 331 00:15:31,536 --> 00:15:33,823 He was a spotty note taker, 332 00:15:33,823 --> 00:15:36,488 but up here, a steel trap. 333 00:15:37,009 --> 00:15:40,795 He remembered every detail of every case he worked. 334 00:15:41,356 --> 00:15:44,018 He didn't have much on the Benson case. 335 00:15:44,892 --> 00:15:47,342 Any idea what "Pull in CK" means? 336 00:15:47,342 --> 00:15:49,819 CK, this is '68. 337 00:15:49,819 --> 00:15:51,838 That's gotta be Carl Kudlak. 338 00:15:51,838 --> 00:15:54,632 We pulled him in on a bunch of rapes back then. 339 00:15:54,632 --> 00:15:56,778 Took us forever to finally pin one on him. 340 00:15:56,778 --> 00:15:59,658 - Why's that? - Had a wife who alibied him every time. 341 00:16:00,677 --> 00:16:02,706 She killed herself in '72... 342 00:16:02,706 --> 00:16:04,391 or we never would've gotten him. 343 00:16:05,059 --> 00:16:06,929 Thanks. 344 00:16:10,441 --> 00:16:11,846 You wanted to see me? 345 00:16:11,846 --> 00:16:13,281 Can you shut the door? 346 00:16:14,892 --> 00:16:17,128 I believe you've met Officer Bandolini. 347 00:16:17,128 --> 00:16:20,749 And this is Mr. Shore, his GOAL representative. 348 00:16:20,749 --> 00:16:21,807 GOAL? 349 00:16:21,807 --> 00:16:25,421 Do we really need the Gay Officers Action League involved in all this? 350 00:16:25,867 --> 00:16:30,011 We understand you and your partner have been harassing Officer Bandolini. 351 00:16:30,011 --> 00:16:31,547 I'm afraid we have to intervene. 352 00:16:31,547 --> 00:16:32,830 Harassed? 353 00:16:32,830 --> 00:16:34,941 We in no way harassed your officer. 354 00:16:34,941 --> 00:16:38,083 We asked for him to turn over a piece of evidence to us. 355 00:16:38,083 --> 00:16:40,433 We don't consider threats of legal action 356 00:16:40,433 --> 00:16:42,550 and public humiliation a courtesy. 357 00:16:42,550 --> 00:16:43,456 - Public humiliation? - Okay, okay. 358 00:16:43,456 --> 00:16:46,756 Obviously, there's a misunderstanding here, alright? 359 00:16:46,756 --> 00:16:48,584 Just don't forget we're all on the same side. 360 00:16:48,584 --> 00:16:50,817 Let's sit down and see if we can work this out amicably. 361 00:16:50,817 --> 00:16:53,574 That's necessary. We've both reviewed the tape 362 00:16:53,574 --> 00:16:56,050 and I assure you it contains no compelling evidence. 363 00:16:56,050 --> 00:16:59,365 With all due respect, sir, that's really our call to make. 364 00:16:59,365 --> 00:17:02,128 All we need to do is to view it. 365 00:17:02,128 --> 00:17:05,155 You have your needs, we have our rights. 366 00:17:05,155 --> 00:17:06,490 Meanwhile, 367 00:17:06,490 --> 00:17:08,817 if Officer Bandolini is outed, 368 00:17:08,817 --> 00:17:10,883 even accidentally on purpose, 369 00:17:10,883 --> 00:17:14,783 you'll be hit with a defamation suit that will make your head spin. 370 00:17:19,699 --> 00:17:21,177 Thank you. 371 00:17:29,225 --> 00:17:31,392 Well, this is just great. 372 00:17:31,392 --> 00:17:33,293 They filed an injunction. 373 00:17:33,293 --> 00:17:35,344 I think you better get Benson in here. / Yep. 374 00:17:38,435 --> 00:17:40,643 I had a little free time last night, 375 00:17:40,643 --> 00:17:43,369 - so I looked up your case. - The Langdon case? 376 00:17:43,444 --> 00:17:45,449 No, your mother's. 377 00:17:46,412 --> 00:17:49,462 The detective who investigated is dead so I spoke to one of his proteges. 378 00:17:49,462 --> 00:17:51,492 Munch, it's not that 379 00:17:51,492 --> 00:17:53,324 I don't appreciate the thought, but 380 00:17:53,324 --> 00:17:54,448 I'm already on it. 381 00:17:54,448 --> 00:17:57,612 I can't tell you how many times I've gone over the report, 382 00:17:57,612 --> 00:17:59,996 listened to his statement, gone through six packs. 383 00:17:59,996 --> 00:18:01,676 Spoke to investigators, visited the crime scene? 384 00:18:01,676 --> 00:18:03,191 Trust me... 385 00:18:04,950 --> 00:18:07,371 I've pulled everything there is to pull. 386 00:18:07,371 --> 00:18:09,853 I don't think this was pullable. 387 00:18:14,033 --> 00:18:17,442 I don't know what it will come to, but from what I've heard, 388 00:18:17,442 --> 00:18:19,013 he's right for it. 389 00:18:19,013 --> 00:18:20,488 You bothering my partner? 390 00:18:20,488 --> 00:18:21,825 No. 391 00:18:23,953 --> 00:18:25,618 No. 392 00:18:29,513 --> 00:18:33,032 Forensics Laboratory One Police Plaza Wednesday, November 24 393 00:18:33,217 --> 00:18:36,533 I have to warn you, The RFLP wasn't back yet. 394 00:18:36,533 --> 00:18:40,853 But I ran a couple of quick test results through the databank, and I got a hit. 395 00:18:40,853 --> 00:18:41,940 What's the name? 396 00:18:41,940 --> 00:18:44,218 This isn't going to hold up in court, mind you, 397 00:18:44,218 --> 00:18:47,023 but I ran the PCR and the mitochondrial. 398 00:18:47,023 --> 00:18:49,120 - They're quick but... - The name? 399 00:18:50,145 --> 00:18:51,763 Ray Gunther. 400 00:18:52,782 --> 00:18:54,642 Why do I know that name? 401 00:18:55,338 --> 00:18:56,683 We studied him at the academy. 402 00:18:56,683 --> 00:18:59,898 He was the guy who terrorized women for an entire summer in the early '80s. 403 00:18:59,898 --> 00:19:02,148 He was known as the Parkway Rapist. 404 00:19:02,314 --> 00:19:04,286 But they put him away. 405 00:19:04,793 --> 00:19:06,622 He's out. 406 00:19:06,748 --> 00:19:09,368 There's no way they would release Ray Gunther. 407 00:19:09,368 --> 00:19:11,022 He brutally raped seven women... 408 00:19:11,022 --> 00:19:13,149 two of which had to have reconstructive surgery. 409 00:19:13,149 --> 00:19:14,908 Maybe he escaped. 410 00:19:15,031 --> 00:19:16,299 Anything from SingSing? 411 00:19:16,299 --> 00:19:18,350 They've had me on hold for 10 minutes. 412 00:19:18,350 --> 00:19:21,196 If he escaped, he took the whole administrative staff with him. 413 00:19:21,196 --> 00:19:24,640 Yes, I need to speak with the DA who handled the Ray Gunther case. 414 00:19:24,690 --> 00:19:26,036 He was paroled. 415 00:19:26,036 --> 00:19:27,312 That was my guess. 416 00:19:27,312 --> 00:19:28,610 When? 417 00:19:28,610 --> 00:19:29,816 A month ago. 418 00:19:29,816 --> 00:19:30,803 Why? 419 00:19:30,803 --> 00:19:33,066 He served 15 of his 25 to life. 420 00:19:33,066 --> 00:19:36,118 Prisons are overcrowded, you know that got to make room somehow. 421 00:19:36,118 --> 00:19:37,941 So by all means let out Ray Gunther, 422 00:19:37,941 --> 00:19:40,470 Yeah. knowing the recidivism rate of sexual predators. 423 00:19:40,470 --> 00:19:42,735 He's gotta file with the Sex Offender's Registry. 424 00:19:42,735 --> 00:19:43,875 We got an address? 425 00:19:43,875 --> 00:19:45,042 We do. 426 00:19:45,042 --> 00:19:47,717 And you shouldn't have too much trouble finding it. 427 00:19:47,717 --> 00:19:50,781 It's in the same building where Seth Langdon was killed. 428 00:20:01,410 --> 00:20:02,568 Uh, hi. 429 00:20:02,568 --> 00:20:04,236 Hey, Jesse Hansen, right? 430 00:20:04,236 --> 00:20:06,204 Detectives, did you catch the guy? 431 00:20:06,204 --> 00:20:08,561 No, but we think we're pretty close. 432 00:20:09,869 --> 00:20:12,554 Do you need anything else? Do you have any more questions? 433 00:20:12,554 --> 00:20:14,068 Just one. 434 00:20:14,068 --> 00:20:16,538 Is there a Ray Gunther staying with you? 435 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:18,822 No, no one staying with us. 436 00:20:18,822 --> 00:20:20,444 That's funny. 437 00:20:20,488 --> 00:20:23,878 This is the address he gave authorities after his parole. 438 00:20:23,987 --> 00:20:26,391 Any idea why he would've done that? 439 00:20:27,754 --> 00:20:29,433 He's my brother. 440 00:20:31,947 --> 00:20:34,275 So why'd you change your last name, Jesse? 441 00:20:35,712 --> 00:20:36,831 Come on, 442 00:20:36,831 --> 00:20:40,563 you legally change your last name. There's got to be a reason for that. 443 00:20:42,518 --> 00:20:45,300 Was "Gunther" not too popular a name in your neighborhood? 444 00:20:45,430 --> 00:20:46,515 No, it wasn't. 445 00:20:46,515 --> 00:20:48,301 Yeah, People give you a hard time about it, I bet. 446 00:20:48,301 --> 00:20:49,569 Yeah, they did. / Yeah. 447 00:20:49,569 --> 00:20:52,418 Don't let Ray cause any more trouble than he already has. 448 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,320 Just tell us where he is. 449 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,357 - I don't know where he is. - But you know what he did. 450 00:21:00,852 --> 00:21:02,628 Don't you? 451 00:21:02,628 --> 00:21:04,247 Why do we have to be separated? 452 00:21:04,247 --> 00:21:05,914 It's just standard procedure. 453 00:21:05,914 --> 00:21:08,872 I know my husband. He's not going to say anything. 454 00:21:08,958 --> 00:21:11,949 But you don't know the psychological hold that Ray has over him. 455 00:21:11,949 --> 00:21:13,258 We're listening. 456 00:21:13,258 --> 00:21:16,547 Jesse was 15 when they locked Ray up. 457 00:21:17,409 --> 00:21:20,394 Reporters snuck into his high school and asked him questions... 458 00:21:20,394 --> 00:21:22,897 in front of his classmates. 459 00:21:23,767 --> 00:21:27,282 Jesse said he thought Ray should be put to death. 460 00:21:27,282 --> 00:21:29,490 They ran that as a headline. 461 00:21:29,490 --> 00:21:31,962 Ray has been working that guilt ever since. 462 00:21:31,962 --> 00:21:34,428 Is that why Jesse let him stay with you when he got out? 463 00:21:34,428 --> 00:21:37,169 Yes, but I couldn't take it after a week. 464 00:21:37,169 --> 00:21:38,756 I had to put my foot down. 465 00:21:38,756 --> 00:21:42,478 He was talking to Jesse about getting him a job in his construction crew. 466 00:21:42,478 --> 00:21:43,803 That would have been bad? 467 00:21:43,803 --> 00:21:45,255 It would've ruined his life. 468 00:21:45,255 --> 00:21:47,851 Because they would've found out he was Ray's brother. 469 00:21:47,985 --> 00:21:50,798 Because they would've found out he was a Gunther. 470 00:21:50,798 --> 00:21:53,083 The whole family's bad. 471 00:21:53,197 --> 00:21:55,880 The father was in and out of jail his whole miserable life, 472 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,941 The mother is a piece of garbage. 473 00:21:57,941 --> 00:22:00,090 And I don't have to tell you about Ray. 474 00:22:01,174 --> 00:22:04,938 There is nothing but bad blood in that whole family. 475 00:22:05,117 --> 00:22:08,785 Did you see Ray in your building the night Seth was killed? 476 00:22:13,269 --> 00:22:15,920 He was in our apartment till 1:00 in the morning. 477 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:16,930 Where is he now? 478 00:22:16,930 --> 00:22:18,616 I don't know. 479 00:22:20,340 --> 00:22:23,226 There's a piece of white trash, 480 00:22:23,226 --> 00:22:25,910 used to visit him in prison... 481 00:22:26,163 --> 00:22:27,954 stripper named Cindy Stocklash... 482 00:22:27,954 --> 00:22:29,447 might be shacked up with her. 483 00:22:29,447 --> 00:22:31,551 Any clue where she could be? 484 00:22:31,551 --> 00:22:33,049 The one time I met her, 485 00:22:33,049 --> 00:22:36,655 she was explaining how she wanted to change motels. 486 00:22:36,655 --> 00:22:38,467 Apparently, hers didn't get porn. 487 00:22:38,467 --> 00:22:40,337 Porn. 488 00:22:40,823 --> 00:22:42,575 That narrows it down. 489 00:22:47,512 --> 00:22:50,037 Please state your name, miss. 490 00:22:50,828 --> 00:22:52,747 Serina Benson. 491 00:22:52,747 --> 00:22:54,649 Address? 492 00:22:54,914 --> 00:22:58,140 1104 West End Avenue, Apartment B. 493 00:22:58,140 --> 00:23:00,034 You were raped? 494 00:23:00,745 --> 00:23:02,091 Yes. 495 00:23:02,091 --> 00:23:04,443 You gotta speak up, honey. 496 00:23:05,779 --> 00:23:07,664 The a... 497 00:23:07,787 --> 00:23:10,716 campus library closed at midnight. 498 00:23:10,716 --> 00:23:14,469 I took the shortcut home I always take. 499 00:23:14,469 --> 00:23:17,523 It was darker than usual. 500 00:23:18,071 --> 00:23:22,852 I was halfway through when something hit me from behind. 501 00:23:22,852 --> 00:23:25,050 You were knocked unconscious? 502 00:23:25,050 --> 00:23:26,527 Yes. 503 00:23:28,166 --> 00:23:33,422 When I came to I was on a landing below street level. 504 00:23:33,733 --> 00:23:39,291 There was a man on top of me. 505 00:23:39,445 --> 00:23:42,415 He was... 506 00:23:42,415 --> 00:23:45,026 he pushed on my dress. 507 00:23:46,647 --> 00:23:49,053 He engaged in sexual intercourse? 508 00:23:53,593 --> 00:23:56,028 Can you describe him? 509 00:23:57,613 --> 00:24:00,829 He had sideburns and... 510 00:24:01,752 --> 00:24:03,330 I don't know. 511 00:24:04,395 --> 00:24:06,978 Everything looked distorted. 512 00:24:14,164 --> 00:24:16,007 What number was that, four? 513 00:24:23,239 --> 00:24:25,072 Come on! Come on! 514 00:24:27,972 --> 00:24:29,884 - Who is it? - Detectives, Ms. Stocklash. 515 00:24:29,884 --> 00:24:31,774 We'd like to ask you a few questions. 516 00:24:32,844 --> 00:24:34,974 Everything okay in there? 517 00:24:37,513 --> 00:24:39,372 What do we have here? Ray Gunther. 518 00:24:39,372 --> 00:24:41,053 You okay? / Nope. 519 00:24:41,053 --> 00:24:42,153 Good. 520 00:24:42,678 --> 00:24:44,932 Ray? Did you hurt him? 521 00:24:44,932 --> 00:24:46,327 Did they hurt you, Ray? 522 00:24:46,327 --> 00:24:47,444 Don't you touch him! 523 00:24:47,444 --> 00:24:48,735 You shut the hell up! 524 00:24:48,735 --> 00:24:49,794 He didn't do nothing. 525 00:24:49,794 --> 00:24:51,636 I said, shut up! 526 00:24:52,884 --> 00:24:55,062 I'm sorry, what is it you think I did? 527 00:24:55,062 --> 00:24:57,436 You're under arrest for the murder of Seth Langdon. 528 00:24:57,436 --> 00:24:58,755 You don't have jack. 529 00:24:58,755 --> 00:25:01,979 Yeah, you're right. All we have are witnesses who put you at the building that night. 530 00:25:01,979 --> 00:25:03,197 Didn't we have something else? 531 00:25:03,197 --> 00:25:04,428 Oh, yeah. 532 00:25:04,428 --> 00:25:06,405 You left a little evidence in the victims mouth. 533 00:25:06,405 --> 00:25:07,504 Ray! 534 00:25:07,504 --> 00:25:09,165 Don't worry, they got the wrong guy. 535 00:25:09,165 --> 00:25:11,309 Wrong guy, but you'll look right to the jury. 536 00:25:11,309 --> 00:25:13,522 Out one month and back to your old tricks. 537 00:25:13,522 --> 00:25:16,471 Think you'd throw them by switching from highways to rooftops? 538 00:25:16,471 --> 00:25:19,298 You used the same excessive force. You beat your victims to a pulp, 539 00:25:19,298 --> 00:25:20,666 just like you did Seth, Ray. 540 00:25:20,666 --> 00:25:23,862 But you had a little trouble adjusting back to civilian sex, didn't you, Ray? 541 00:25:23,862 --> 00:25:25,410 He didn't have no trouble. 542 00:25:25,410 --> 00:25:27,036 Shut up! 543 00:25:27,388 --> 00:25:28,663 You're a little confused. 544 00:25:28,663 --> 00:25:30,467 Okay, why Seth? Why'd you pick him? 545 00:25:30,467 --> 00:25:33,068 - I didn't pick nobody. - Did you even know him? 546 00:25:33,068 --> 00:25:35,057 I used to see him in the gym. 547 00:25:35,158 --> 00:25:38,002 Me and Jesse used to work out everyday. Sometimes he'd be there. 548 00:25:38,002 --> 00:25:39,237 He was pathetic. 549 00:25:39,237 --> 00:25:41,263 Him trying to pump up that puny body of his. 550 00:25:41,263 --> 00:25:42,923 So what happened? What? Did he hit on you? 551 00:25:42,923 --> 00:25:45,298 Or was it you? Did you like them puny like that? 552 00:25:45,298 --> 00:25:48,241 Now that you mention it, he did remind me of a bitch I had in prison. 553 00:25:48,241 --> 00:25:49,224 You're pathetic. 554 00:25:49,224 --> 00:25:52,068 What's wrong, you jealous, sweetheart? 555 00:25:52,068 --> 00:25:53,400 Easy. 556 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,977 Not sweetheart. 557 00:25:54,977 --> 00:25:57,288 That's Detective Benson, all right? 558 00:25:57,288 --> 00:25:59,354 I want an apology from you. 559 00:26:00,157 --> 00:26:03,022 I don't need an apology from this slimebag. 560 00:26:03,712 --> 00:26:08,004 But I am starting to get really sick of the sarcastic little remarks, Ray. 561 00:26:12,930 --> 00:26:15,403 Look, if this is about me getting a little overzealous with Ray... 562 00:26:16,212 --> 00:26:18,284 - What are you talking about? - Nothing. What's up? 563 00:26:19,419 --> 00:26:21,022 We got real problems here. 564 00:26:21,022 --> 00:26:22,995 The lab just got the full DNA report back. 565 00:26:22,995 --> 00:26:23,949 Yeah, and? 566 00:26:23,949 --> 00:26:26,574 And it ain't Ray's. 567 00:26:28,159 --> 00:26:32,417 Now remember, I told you the DNA results I gave you wouldn't stand up in court. 568 00:26:32,417 --> 00:26:35,139 All I remember is you giving us the name Ray Gunther. 569 00:26:35,139 --> 00:26:38,830 Yeah, but when I gave you Ray's name, it was off the quickest tests available. 570 00:26:38,830 --> 00:26:40,458 Of which there are two. 571 00:26:40,458 --> 00:26:43,429 Naturally, I assumed the hit came from the PCR. 572 00:26:43,429 --> 00:26:46,006 As it turns out, the results weren't from PCR 573 00:26:46,006 --> 00:26:48,823 which narrows it down one in thousands 574 00:26:48,823 --> 00:26:52,751 as compared to RFLP which narrows it down one in billions. 575 00:26:52,751 --> 00:26:54,805 This actually came from the mitochonrial. 576 00:26:54,805 --> 00:26:55,835 What's the difference? 577 00:26:55,835 --> 00:26:59,076 Mitochonrial only narrows it down to bloodline. 578 00:26:59,076 --> 00:27:01,573 So while it's definitely not Ray, 579 00:27:01,573 --> 00:27:04,871 you are still looking for somebody from that family. 580 00:27:04,871 --> 00:27:06,845 A father, a son... 581 00:27:06,845 --> 00:27:08,734 Or a brother. 582 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,056 Okay. 583 00:27:14,395 --> 00:27:16,339 Look, here's the problem. 584 00:27:17,158 --> 00:27:20,479 We got this pain in the ass DNA. 585 00:27:22,211 --> 00:27:24,296 This make any sense to you? 586 00:27:24,296 --> 00:27:25,988 No. / Yeah, me either, 587 00:27:25,988 --> 00:27:29,023 but it just let your brother off the hook. 588 00:27:29,132 --> 00:27:30,564 And it puts you in the hotseat. 589 00:27:30,564 --> 00:27:33,198 Which really doesn't make any sense to us. 590 00:27:33,198 --> 00:27:36,282 We know your brother's bad, but you've been clean your whole life. 591 00:27:36,282 --> 00:27:39,007 Can you explain this, Jesse? 592 00:27:39,143 --> 00:27:40,532 No. 593 00:27:40,532 --> 00:27:42,849 A blood sample will. 594 00:27:43,087 --> 00:27:44,543 I have to give one? 595 00:27:44,543 --> 00:27:46,363 We could hold you for 24 hours, 596 00:27:46,363 --> 00:27:49,084 during which time you know we could get a court order for you to take it. 597 00:27:49,084 --> 00:27:50,649 I got to tell you, though, 598 00:27:50,649 --> 00:27:54,136 refusing to take a blood test that'll clear you... 599 00:27:54,624 --> 00:27:56,694 that doesn't look good. 600 00:27:56,780 --> 00:27:58,033 Maybe... 601 00:27:58,033 --> 00:27:59,995 I should 602 00:27:59,995 --> 00:28:02,093 call a lawyer. 603 00:28:03,218 --> 00:28:05,177 You're free to go. 604 00:28:23,029 --> 00:28:25,494 At his trial in '84, they had Ray dead to rights, 605 00:28:25,494 --> 00:28:26,936 so he made a sympathy play. 606 00:28:26,936 --> 00:28:28,475 Sympathy for a serial rapist? Right. 607 00:28:28,475 --> 00:28:30,279 What'd he say, "Women just don't understand me"? 608 00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:35,331 No, claims he and Jesse were raped growing up by their dad. 609 00:28:35,331 --> 00:28:36,927 The old Menendez defense. 610 00:28:36,927 --> 00:28:39,556 Could explain a few things about good old Jesse, huh? 611 00:28:39,556 --> 00:28:41,623 Except the prosecution put Jesse on the stand 612 00:28:41,623 --> 00:28:44,641 and he said that Ray completely fabricated the story. 613 00:28:44,641 --> 00:28:46,403 So how do we know which one is lying? 614 00:28:46,403 --> 00:28:48,811 Don't worry, I'm sure he'll have plenty to say 615 00:28:48,811 --> 00:28:51,044 once we get the goahead to take his blood. 616 00:28:51,044 --> 00:28:53,452 How about you guys? You find anything? 617 00:28:53,452 --> 00:28:55,562 Just a pisspoor gene pool. 618 00:28:55,562 --> 00:28:57,550 You think Jesse was just born bad? 619 00:28:57,550 --> 00:28:59,628 ?? Destiny isn't predetermined. 620 00:28:59,628 --> 00:29:02,208 I don't know, there've been cases of twins separated at birth, 621 00:29:02,208 --> 00:29:04,102 growing up in completely different environments, 622 00:29:04,102 --> 00:29:06,772 who go on to commit crimes with the same MOs. 623 00:29:06,772 --> 00:29:09,536 It's eerie. / Actually, They've proven transplanting genes 624 00:29:09,536 --> 00:29:12,509 from one species to another can alter behavior. 625 00:29:12,509 --> 00:29:14,667 We're not rats, we're humans. 626 00:29:14,667 --> 00:29:17,655 It all comes down to how you were raised. You instill morals, values, 627 00:29:17,655 --> 00:29:20,067 the kid'll turn out all right. If not, then you got trouble. 628 00:29:20,067 --> 00:29:21,789 Nature, nurture, ad nauseum... 629 00:29:21,789 --> 00:29:23,834 you're assuming a level playing field at birth. 630 00:29:23,834 --> 00:29:25,488 I don't know that there is. 631 00:29:30,087 --> 00:29:31,644 Hey, something wrong? 632 00:29:31,644 --> 00:29:33,507 It's just hitting a little close to home. 633 00:29:33,507 --> 00:29:34,865 How's that? 634 00:29:36,140 --> 00:29:38,624 The only way that Jesse makes sense in all this, 635 00:29:39,288 --> 00:29:42,377 is that they're fruit of the same poisoned tree. 636 00:29:42,757 --> 00:29:44,886 You don't really believe that, do you? 637 00:29:51,261 --> 00:29:54,758 I understand your DNA tech pulled a little Arkansas twostep. 638 00:29:54,758 --> 00:29:56,478 Actually took you to the brother first. 639 00:29:56,478 --> 00:29:58,633 Yeah, he's been ruled out. 640 00:29:58,633 --> 00:30:01,636 The only way his name came up at all was because it was the same bloodline. 641 00:30:01,636 --> 00:30:05,010 Jesse's lawyer is already waving the old ACLU banner 642 00:30:05,010 --> 00:30:06,351 asking, "Where does it stop?" 643 00:30:06,351 --> 00:30:08,736 "Are we going to test every relative of Ray Gunther's?" 644 00:30:08,736 --> 00:30:12,091 No, just the one who lives in the victim's building. 645 00:30:12,701 --> 00:30:15,040 I fasttracked the hearing on the blood test for tomorrow. 646 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,146 It would be nice to have a safety net. What have you got besides DNA? 647 00:30:18,146 --> 00:30:21,292 What we've got are lawyers sandbaging us at every turn. 648 00:30:21,292 --> 00:30:23,956 Right, the video. 649 00:30:24,187 --> 00:30:25,182 What video? 650 00:30:25,182 --> 00:30:27,831 Only Seth at a party minutes before his death. 651 00:30:27,831 --> 00:30:30,104 But that is tied up in litigation, too. 652 00:30:30,104 --> 00:30:32,199 Any way of getting it untied? 653 00:30:34,024 --> 00:30:37,269 Let me see if I can make an end run of my own. 654 00:30:43,661 --> 00:30:45,571 Officer Bandolini. 655 00:30:46,156 --> 00:30:49,334 My representative is not going to be happy about this. 656 00:30:49,457 --> 00:30:52,222 I realize I'm bending procedure here. 657 00:30:52,222 --> 00:30:54,484 I appreciate you meeting with me. 658 00:30:56,808 --> 00:30:58,861 You know we need that tape. 659 00:30:58,861 --> 00:31:01,116 And you know what it can do to me. 660 00:31:01,565 --> 00:31:03,624 Oh, yeah. 661 00:31:07,244 --> 00:31:10,193 In 1926, 662 00:31:10,193 --> 00:31:13,086 Bobby Jones was winning the US Open. 663 00:31:13,086 --> 00:31:14,919 He hits his ball into the woods. 664 00:31:14,919 --> 00:31:17,505 He removes a leaf from under the ball and accidentally moves it. 665 00:31:17,505 --> 00:31:19,195 Now, nobody sees this. 666 00:31:19,195 --> 00:31:21,910 He hits it out, saves par. 667 00:31:22,589 --> 00:31:24,905 I assume there's a point to this story. 668 00:31:24,905 --> 00:31:27,208 Mr. Jones did the honorable thing. 669 00:31:27,208 --> 00:31:29,166 He declared the penalty. 670 00:31:29,984 --> 00:31:32,081 And he went on to win the Open? 671 00:31:32,081 --> 00:31:34,775 No, he lost by a stroke. 672 00:31:35,939 --> 00:31:38,864 But he said he never lost any sleep over it 673 00:31:38,864 --> 00:31:42,499 because he did the right thing. 674 00:31:42,598 --> 00:31:44,549 That was just a game. 675 00:31:44,549 --> 00:31:47,125 This is my life we're talking about. 676 00:31:48,283 --> 00:31:50,814 And how are you sleeping? 677 00:31:56,071 --> 00:31:58,614 I don't know why I brought the damn camcorder to the party. 678 00:31:59,446 --> 00:32:02,305 That's what I keep kicking myself over. 679 00:32:02,547 --> 00:32:05,142 There's nothing illegal or criminal on that tape, 680 00:32:05,142 --> 00:32:06,069 but the consequences... 681 00:32:06,069 --> 00:32:09,819 I will do everything in my power to make sure there aren't any. 682 00:32:10,579 --> 00:32:12,897 You have my word on that. 683 00:32:25,021 --> 00:32:28,799 You planned on handing this over all along, didn't you? 684 00:32:28,928 --> 00:32:30,831 Yeah. 685 00:32:31,632 --> 00:32:34,835 But I enjoyed the golf story. 686 00:32:40,683 --> 00:32:42,674 Okay, that's Seth. 687 00:32:44,899 --> 00:32:47,641 Okay, fast forward. Forward. 688 00:32:47,641 --> 00:32:49,466 Forward. / Stop! 689 00:32:50,384 --> 00:32:51,826 Rewind and play. 690 00:32:52,574 --> 00:32:53,795 Stop. 691 00:32:53,795 --> 00:32:56,813 Enhance section A6. 692 00:32:56,899 --> 00:32:58,868 Zoom in on the door. 693 00:33:01,110 --> 00:33:02,960 Yep, there's Jesse. 694 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,295 Let's see if he joins the party. 695 00:33:04,295 --> 00:33:06,527 You know a lot about video analyzing, Munch. 696 00:33:06,527 --> 00:33:08,088 I dabble a little. 697 00:33:09,181 --> 00:33:10,632 Damn it, he didn't even come in. 698 00:33:11,353 --> 00:33:13,187 Forward. 699 00:33:16,992 --> 00:33:18,727 Stop! 700 00:33:18,727 --> 00:33:21,189 Go back to the part about the door again. 701 00:33:23,634 --> 00:33:26,081 Go back to just before the door opened. 702 00:33:32,639 --> 00:33:34,287 Stop! 703 00:33:34,287 --> 00:33:36,787 Zoom in on the mirror. 704 00:33:41,862 --> 00:33:44,361 That ain't Jesse. That's Ray. 705 00:33:45,270 --> 00:33:47,027 Back to Ray. 706 00:33:47,027 --> 00:33:48,533 We need to talk to Lorraine again 707 00:33:48,533 --> 00:33:51,476 find out what time each of them actually came back. 708 00:33:53,248 --> 00:33:55,259 I told you, Jesse came right back down. 709 00:33:55,259 --> 00:33:56,395 And Ray didn't come with him? 710 00:33:56,395 --> 00:33:58,259 No, we went to bed right after that. 711 00:33:58,259 --> 00:34:02,590 Mrs. Hansen, I need to tell you that providing a false alibi is a felony. 712 00:34:02,590 --> 00:34:05,556 It's insane you have my husband accused of his brother's crime. 713 00:34:05,556 --> 00:34:08,949 Ray has been hellbent on destroying Jesse his whole life. 714 00:34:08,949 --> 00:34:10,991 Why? Why would he want to do that to him? 715 00:34:10,991 --> 00:34:12,513 I don't know. 716 00:34:18,128 --> 00:34:21,932 Ray would call from prison every week, 717 00:34:22,291 --> 00:34:25,703 until Jesse would finally cave in and go see him. 718 00:34:25,995 --> 00:34:27,849 And after the visits, 719 00:34:27,849 --> 00:34:31,885 Jesse would come home and go into these deep depressions. 720 00:34:32,630 --> 00:34:34,899 He wouldn't talk to me about it. 721 00:34:35,141 --> 00:34:40,144 He'd just go on these alcohol binges 722 00:34:40,144 --> 00:34:43,624 and disappear, sometimes even for days. 723 00:34:44,902 --> 00:34:47,588 That must have been really hard for you. 724 00:34:47,803 --> 00:34:51,232 When he came back, he'd be his old self again. 725 00:34:51,313 --> 00:34:54,234 I promise you, Jesse's a good man. 726 00:34:54,234 --> 00:34:56,092 It's his brother that's poison. 727 00:34:56,092 --> 00:34:57,608 I can't say we disagree with you. 728 00:34:57,608 --> 00:35:00,206 The problem is, it's not Ray's seminal fluid 729 00:35:00,206 --> 00:35:02,766 we found in Seth's mouth. 730 00:35:03,170 --> 00:35:05,644 But it's definitely the same bloodline. 731 00:35:05,644 --> 00:35:07,104 You're lying. 732 00:35:07,104 --> 00:35:08,593 Mrs. Hansen... 733 00:35:10,308 --> 00:35:13,597 why do you think Jesse won't give us the blood test? 734 00:35:19,619 --> 00:35:22,829 Ray came over at 7:00. 735 00:35:23,586 --> 00:35:26,198 He drank the whole night again. 736 00:35:26,198 --> 00:35:28,784 He went up at 1:00 737 00:35:28,784 --> 00:35:30,421 about the music 738 00:35:30,421 --> 00:35:33,101 and Jesse did come right back down, alone. 739 00:35:33,101 --> 00:35:34,397 Then what happened? 740 00:35:34,397 --> 00:35:37,098 Ray came back a few minutes later, 741 00:35:37,203 --> 00:35:40,255 dragged Jesse out with him... 742 00:35:44,272 --> 00:35:47,804 Jesse didn't come home till after 2:00. 743 00:35:53,653 --> 00:35:55,940 It was a joke. / A joke? 744 00:35:56,191 --> 00:35:57,819 We'd see that little fag in the gym... 745 00:35:57,819 --> 00:35:59,141 That was Seth. 746 00:35:59,141 --> 00:36:01,204 Right, Seth. 747 00:36:01,336 --> 00:36:03,800 When we'd see that little fag, Seth, in the gym, 748 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,749 I'd rib Jesse that it was his girlfriend. 749 00:36:05,749 --> 00:36:08,435 - That's hysterical. - Oh, it gets funnier. 750 00:36:08,435 --> 00:36:10,181 I'd catch his eye, 751 00:36:10,181 --> 00:36:11,657 nod over to Jesse, 752 00:36:11,657 --> 00:36:13,478 and wink. 753 00:36:13,478 --> 00:36:16,524 Seth would blush like a little schoolgirl. 754 00:36:16,524 --> 00:36:18,829 - I'm still waiting for the punchline. - It came that night. 755 00:36:19,073 --> 00:36:23,313 Start with going up to the party because we have you on tape, with Seth. 756 00:36:23,866 --> 00:36:25,809 When they opened the door, 757 00:36:25,809 --> 00:36:27,998 I see him looking out. 758 00:36:28,204 --> 00:36:29,829 I go right in to the old bit. 759 00:36:29,829 --> 00:36:32,055 I nod over to Jesse 760 00:36:32,055 --> 00:36:34,636 and give Seth a big old wink. 761 00:36:36,218 --> 00:36:37,752 When the door closes, 762 00:36:37,752 --> 00:36:40,487 I ask Jesse if he saw his girlfriend. 763 00:36:40,884 --> 00:36:42,641 He throws a punch, 764 00:36:42,641 --> 00:36:44,957 but he's so plastered he misses by a mile. 765 00:36:44,957 --> 00:36:46,804 Then he staggers off down the hall. 766 00:36:46,804 --> 00:36:47,957 And you wait? 767 00:36:47,957 --> 00:36:48,815 Yep... 768 00:36:48,815 --> 00:36:51,259 and out prances Seth. 769 00:36:51,259 --> 00:36:53,784 I put my arm around him and say, 770 00:36:53,784 --> 00:36:56,324 "Go up on the roof, Jesse'll be right up." 771 00:36:56,324 --> 00:36:58,622 Then you went and you got Jesse. 772 00:36:58,622 --> 00:37:00,132 Why? 773 00:37:00,379 --> 00:37:02,975 Sibling rivalry. 774 00:37:10,808 --> 00:37:13,711 Our daddy did everything I said he did. 775 00:37:14,788 --> 00:37:18,084 Jesse should've been a man and stood up for me at my trial. 776 00:37:18,084 --> 00:37:19,735 Jesse was 15 when you were tried. 777 00:37:19,735 --> 00:37:22,043 15 is a lot of years. 778 00:37:23,252 --> 00:37:25,131 Someone had to serve because of him. 779 00:37:25,131 --> 00:37:26,831 I could've been out in five. 780 00:37:27,216 --> 00:37:29,070 You did 15 because of what you did, 781 00:37:29,070 --> 00:37:30,736 not Jesse. 782 00:37:34,697 --> 00:37:36,449 I think it's horrible 783 00:37:36,449 --> 00:37:38,523 that my baby brother killed a man, 784 00:37:38,523 --> 00:37:39,805 but... 785 00:37:39,805 --> 00:37:41,268 he did. 786 00:37:41,268 --> 00:37:44,835 And as much as you'd like to, 787 00:37:45,116 --> 00:37:46,695 you can't pin it on me. 788 00:37:46,695 --> 00:37:48,878 - I had nothing to do with it. - You set it up. 789 00:37:50,819 --> 00:37:54,141 I set up a practical joke. 790 00:37:55,748 --> 00:37:58,055 Is there a law against that? 791 00:38:03,228 --> 00:38:05,694 Ray told us everything, Jesse. 792 00:38:07,158 --> 00:38:09,816 Your brother set you up. 793 00:38:09,934 --> 00:38:13,738 I lied at his trial. 794 00:38:13,997 --> 00:38:17,068 Ray was telling the truth. 795 00:38:17,563 --> 00:38:21,462 Our father really did do those things. 796 00:38:21,462 --> 00:38:23,140 To both of you? 797 00:38:24,008 --> 00:38:26,245 I tried to forget. 798 00:38:26,490 --> 00:38:28,969 Ray wouldn't let me. 799 00:38:30,058 --> 00:38:33,149 Even as kids he would tell me 800 00:38:33,149 --> 00:38:36,030 how awful it was for him, but that I liked it. 801 00:38:36,030 --> 00:38:37,893 Nobody thinks that, Jesse. 802 00:38:37,893 --> 00:38:40,069 You were only seven years old. 803 00:38:41,326 --> 00:38:45,194 Whenever I'd visit Ray at SingSing, 804 00:38:45,194 --> 00:38:48,514 he'd tell me, "You just wait, 805 00:38:48,514 --> 00:38:51,016 you'll end up here sooner or later. 806 00:38:51,016 --> 00:38:53,804 It's your legacy." 807 00:38:54,939 --> 00:38:58,120 Jesse, tell us what happened on the roof. 808 00:38:58,509 --> 00:39:00,325 I was wasted. 809 00:39:00,325 --> 00:39:03,091 I don't even remember how I got there. 810 00:39:03,091 --> 00:39:05,228 All... 811 00:39:05,228 --> 00:39:07,271 all I could hear was 812 00:39:07,271 --> 00:39:11,210 Ray's voice drawing me up there. 813 00:39:11,324 --> 00:39:14,596 It didn't seem real. 814 00:39:15,126 --> 00:39:19,003 Someone was on their knees... 815 00:39:19,613 --> 00:39:21,832 and... 816 00:39:23,152 --> 00:39:27,715 my pants were down... 817 00:39:27,715 --> 00:39:30,334 and... 818 00:39:32,643 --> 00:39:34,988 I don't know. 819 00:39:35,346 --> 00:39:37,908 I killed him. 820 00:39:40,107 --> 00:39:41,893 I killed him. 821 00:39:41,893 --> 00:39:43,913 I'll file charges for Man One. 822 00:39:44,148 --> 00:39:46,078 Jesse, you said that you heard 823 00:39:46,078 --> 00:39:49,051 Ray's voice drawing you up to the rooftop. 824 00:39:49,051 --> 00:39:50,409 Abby, 825 00:39:50,409 --> 00:39:51,948 hold on. 826 00:39:52,067 --> 00:39:55,278 Could you hear his voice once you got up there? 827 00:39:56,611 --> 00:39:59,687 I could hear him laughing at me, yeah. 828 00:40:00,569 --> 00:40:02,605 Jesse, 829 00:40:02,605 --> 00:40:05,926 that's because he was there, wasn't he? 830 00:40:06,366 --> 00:40:10,155 I just remember coming out of a fog, 831 00:40:10,155 --> 00:40:13,360 and then seeing Ray standing in the doorway. 832 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,876 He was laughing. 833 00:40:15,876 --> 00:40:18,283 And I looked down, 834 00:40:18,393 --> 00:40:22,385 and I saw what Seth was doing. 835 00:40:22,385 --> 00:40:23,902 And ... 836 00:40:23,902 --> 00:40:27,385 Ray said, "I told you." 837 00:40:27,385 --> 00:40:29,874 I told you what, that you were gay? 838 00:40:31,091 --> 00:40:33,997 That I wanted to kill him. 839 00:40:33,997 --> 00:40:35,727 Why? 840 00:40:35,865 --> 00:40:37,827 What did he do to you? 841 00:40:37,827 --> 00:40:40,517 Not Seth, Ray. 842 00:40:40,517 --> 00:40:42,217 I wanted to kill Ray. 843 00:40:42,217 --> 00:40:45,294 I just started lashing out at him 844 00:40:45,294 --> 00:40:46,924 'cause in my mind, 845 00:40:46,924 --> 00:40:48,927 I was hitting Ray. 846 00:40:48,927 --> 00:40:54,298 But he just kept laughing and laughing. 847 00:40:59,131 --> 00:41:02,033 I had to shut him up. 848 00:41:04,243 --> 00:41:06,671 I took his head and 849 00:41:06,671 --> 00:41:09,342 I stated bashing 850 00:41:10,043 --> 00:41:15,476 and I just bashed it and bashed it as hard as I could. 851 00:41:21,945 --> 00:41:26,097 It was finally quiet... 852 00:41:26,097 --> 00:41:29,130 but I looked down and it wasn't Ray, 853 00:41:29,130 --> 00:41:31,626 it was Seth. 854 00:41:31,723 --> 00:41:34,357 Where was Ray? 855 00:41:34,512 --> 00:41:36,382 He was... 856 00:41:36,382 --> 00:41:39,793 he was still standing in the doorway. 857 00:41:42,192 --> 00:41:44,133 And he said... 858 00:41:45,099 --> 00:41:48,717 he said, "Welcome to the family." 859 00:41:55,618 --> 00:41:58,468 Tell me we can charge Ray. 860 00:41:59,048 --> 00:42:00,413 Inciting a murder, 861 00:42:00,413 --> 00:42:02,915 depraved indifference, accessory... 862 00:42:02,915 --> 00:42:04,790 That's good for a start. 863 00:42:04,790 --> 00:42:07,281 With Ray's priors, he'll end up doing more time than Jesse. 864 00:42:07,281 --> 00:42:09,012 Make sure he does, Abby. 865 00:42:12,461 --> 00:42:14,263 You heard him. 866 00:42:14,323 --> 00:42:16,841 Ray was screwing with his brother's mind his whole life. 867 00:42:16,841 --> 00:42:18,359 It had nothing to do with blood. 868 00:42:18,359 --> 00:42:22,738 What Jesse did happened because Jesse believed it would. 869 00:42:23,283 --> 00:42:25,128 You know that, right? 870 00:42:26,622 --> 00:42:28,864 There's something I'm going to need to do. 871 00:42:28,864 --> 00:42:31,646 Olivia, what good is it going to do you to know? 872 00:43:13,170 --> 00:43:15,899 He's not my father. 873 00:43:16,012 --> 00:43:18,371 You sure? 874 00:43:20,579 --> 00:43:22,431 Positive. 875 00:43:31,406 --> 00:43:34,445 Subtitles by Korea NSC Subtitle Team (http://club.nate.com/tsm) 9999 00:00:0,500 --> 00:00:2,00 www.tvsubtitles.net 66912

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