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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,600 It was here in these woods off Florida's I-75 2 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:06,300 that in the space of one year the police 3 00:01:06,400 --> 00:01:09,000 found the bodies of seven men. 4 00:01:09,100 --> 00:01:13,700 They were killed with this gun, a High Standard double 9.22. 5 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,700 Richard Mallory, Walter Antonio, Dick Humphreys, David Spears, 6 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:22,500 Charles Carskaddon, Peter Siems, and Troy Burress. 7 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,300 Eight men have been shot to death 8 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,600 in cold blood on central Florida highways, 9 00:01:26,700 --> 00:01:30,200 including the busy tourist route of I-75. 10 00:01:30,300 --> 00:01:32,000 But this time, there's an even more 11 00:01:32,100 --> 00:01:33,600 chilling twist to the slayings. 12 00:01:33,700 --> 00:01:36,300 Police say for the first time in criminal history, 13 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,600 these killers may be murdering with a feminine touch. 14 00:01:39,700 --> 00:01:42,100 On January 9, 1991, 15 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:43,900 Aileen Carol Wuornos was arrested 16 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,300 in Daytona Beach, Florida. 17 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,800 She worked as a hitchhiking hooker. 18 00:01:49,900 --> 00:01:51,700 - Oh. 19 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:52,700 - How are you doing? 20 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:57,700 This is the original police 21 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:59,600 video of Aileen Wuornos' confession. 22 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:32,900 The idea of a woman killing men, 23 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,500 a man-hating lesbian prostitute who tarnished the reputation 24 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,900 of all her victims, brought Aileen 25 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,600 Wuornos a special kind of hatred. 26 00:02:41,700 --> 00:02:44,600 Terry Humphreys' father was a retired police chief. 27 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,200 - There wasn't any sex involved in my dad's murder. 28 00:02:47,300 --> 00:02:49,900 They cut him-- they did an autopsy on my dad. 29 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,500 They wouldn't release his body for over a week. 30 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,300 They cut him from stem to stern. 31 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:58,500 There wasn't any semen there anywhere. 32 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,700 - You just cannot imagine the grief, the hurt, 33 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:06,400 the anguish that they have caused this family. 34 00:03:06,500 --> 00:03:09,600 This is a man that I had for-- 35 00:03:09,700 --> 00:03:15,000 - I hope she meets up with quote, "Old Sparky." 36 00:03:15,100 --> 00:03:16,700 You know who Old Sparky is. 37 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,200 Politicians and the Christian right 38 00:03:21,300 --> 00:03:23,600 campaigned for Aileen Wuornos' execution. 39 00:03:23,700 --> 00:03:26,300 - Because I'm tired of this reelection jazz. 40 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,400 They're just trying to get promotional ladder climbing, 41 00:03:29,500 --> 00:03:31,200 political prestige from this. 42 00:03:31,300 --> 00:03:33,100 And I'm sick and tired of this. 43 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,400 I'll probably get three more Death Row sentences. 44 00:03:35,500 --> 00:03:37,400 And then I got to go to Pasco and Dixon 45 00:03:37,500 --> 00:03:38,800 for two more d-- Death Row. 46 00:03:38,900 --> 00:03:40,400 How many times you got to kill me, you know? 47 00:03:40,500 --> 00:03:43,300 I mean, this is-- this is bullshit. 48 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,700 They don't need to be doing this. 49 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,400 Even Ted Bundy was offered life imprisonment. 50 00:03:49,500 --> 00:03:51,700 This was never offered to Aileen Wuornos. 51 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,800 By the time I met Aileen, she already 52 00:03:53,900 --> 00:03:55,600 had four death sentences. 53 00:03:55,700 --> 00:03:57,400 But surprisingly, in an odd way, I 54 00:03:57,500 --> 00:04:00,600 found her to be the most honest person involved in the case. 55 00:04:00,700 --> 00:04:03,600 All the others, her lawyers, her born-again Christian mother, 56 00:04:03,700 --> 00:04:05,300 the police, had all been involved 57 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,300 in trying to sell her story for as much money as possible. 58 00:04:15,300 --> 00:04:16,000 Hi. 59 00:04:16,100 --> 00:04:17,500 How you doing? 60 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,300 This is Aileen when I first interviewed her 61 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,800 in 1992 for my original film, "The Selling 62 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,100 of a Serial Killer." 63 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:26,500 - I say it's this. 64 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,300 The principle is self-defense. 65 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,100 They say it's a number. 66 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,100 I say it's a principle. 67 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:38,600 To heck with what-- it-- it-- it has 68 00:04:38,700 --> 00:04:40,800 nothing to do with the number killed. 69 00:04:40,900 --> 00:04:42,000 It's the principle. 70 00:04:42,100 --> 00:04:44,700 But they're saying, there's a number. 71 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:46,300 No. 72 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,400 Self-defense is self-defense, no matter how many times it is. 73 00:04:48,500 --> 00:04:49,700 I don't care if it's 100 times. 74 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,000 I was very-- I never provoked those guys. 75 00:04:52,100 --> 00:04:53,200 I never provoked them. 76 00:04:53,300 --> 00:04:55,700 I never showed any provocations whatsoever. 77 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:59,700 I was very nice, very decent, very clean, very lady-like. 78 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:01,200 I didn't even swear in front of my clients. 79 00:05:01,300 --> 00:05:02,700 And a lot of my clients and I talked about Jesus 80 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,300 and I talked political both mixed together 81 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,600 and we never argued. 82 00:05:07,700 --> 00:05:10,000 My old film had ended with this announcement 83 00:05:10,100 --> 00:05:12,400 of the resignation of Florida police officers 84 00:05:12,500 --> 00:05:15,700 who had illicitly entered into Hollywood movie deals 85 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,500 to sell the story of America's first female serial 86 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,900 killer, the Aileen Wuornos story. 87 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,200 - Major Dan Henry resigned as Chief of Staff of the Marion 88 00:05:24,300 --> 00:05:26,800 County Sheriff's Office after being notified 89 00:05:26,900 --> 00:05:29,200 of an investigation being conducted by the Florida 90 00:05:29,300 --> 00:05:30,500 Department of Law Enforcement. 91 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:32,700 The investigation being conducted by the Florida 92 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,700 Department of Law Enforcement centers 93 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,400 around taped telephone conversations 94 00:05:37,500 --> 00:05:39,300 made by Deputy Munster between he 95 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:43,800 and Major Henry involving the Aileen Wuornos case. 96 00:05:43,900 --> 00:05:45,500 There was speculation at the time 97 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,600 that if police officers did, in fact, receive money, 98 00:05:48,700 --> 00:05:51,800 all Aileen Wuornos' death sentences could be overturned. 99 00:06:01,300 --> 00:06:04,100 12 years later, Aileen is still on Death Row. 100 00:06:04,100 --> 00:06:05,700 There was no proper investigation 101 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,800 into the police officers and their movie deals. 102 00:06:07,900 --> 00:06:10,100 It all got covered over. 103 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,500 Aileen and I kept in touch over the years. 104 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,300 And then a few weeks ago I opened my front door, 105 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,700 and to my amazement, was served with a subpoena 106 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,600 to attend Aileen's final appeal before execution. 107 00:06:21,700 --> 00:06:24,300 I had no idea how things would turn out 108 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,200 and that I'll be witnessing an execution 109 00:06:26,300 --> 00:06:27,800 in 1 and 1/2 years' time. 110 00:06:31,500 --> 00:06:33,300 This is Ocala, Florida. 111 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:37,400 All us witnesses were housed together in a motel. 112 00:06:37,500 --> 00:06:39,000 - We're going to win this thing. 113 00:06:39,100 --> 00:06:40,800 I'm telling you, we're going to win. 114 00:06:40,900 --> 00:06:44,100 This is Joe Hobson, Aileen's attorney. 115 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,400 Lawyers like Joe are kept very busy. 116 00:06:46,500 --> 00:06:50,200 4,000 people are on Death Row waiting for execution. 117 00:06:50,300 --> 00:06:51,700 OK. 118 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,000 - OK. 119 00:06:53,100 --> 00:06:54,500 What-- 120 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:55,200 You're not very good at wheeling this. 121 00:06:55,300 --> 00:06:55,900 - I'm sorry. 122 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:56,500 I'm sorry, bro. 123 00:07:00,300 --> 00:07:01,900 - And has this particular case been 124 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,000 stressful, the Aileen case? 125 00:07:04,100 --> 00:07:09,000 - Uh, It's so important because this is the legal system in a-- 126 00:07:09,100 --> 00:07:11,200 in a phase where it's doing the most important thing it can 127 00:07:11,300 --> 00:07:13,300 ever do, and that is taking a human life. 128 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:14,600 Mm-hm. 129 00:07:14,700 --> 00:07:16,200 - It's more important than a money judgment 130 00:07:16,300 --> 00:07:19,300 or an adjudication of guilt, or 30 years in prison. 131 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,700 And we've really got to be careful. 132 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:23,200 I mean, the whole system's got to be careful. 133 00:07:23,300 --> 00:07:26,400 And my opinion and the whole gist of our motion 134 00:07:26,500 --> 00:07:28,400 is that she's been failed by the legal system. 135 00:07:28,500 --> 00:07:30,800 Joe Hobson felt that Aileen had been poorly 136 00:07:30,900 --> 00:07:34,200 represented by her previous attorney, Dr. Legal. 137 00:07:34,300 --> 00:07:35,800 - Most of us will probably never worry 138 00:07:35,900 --> 00:07:37,400 about spending time in jail. 139 00:07:37,500 --> 00:07:40,000 But if you're ever involved in the criminal justice system, 140 00:07:40,100 --> 00:07:41,600 you will need a lawyer who can-- 141 00:07:41,700 --> 00:07:43,500 Joe Hobson was hoping to get Aileen a retrial 142 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:48,300 by discrediting Dr. Legal, otherwise known as Steve. 143 00:07:48,300 --> 00:07:50,200 This is the Ocala Courthouse, where 144 00:07:50,300 --> 00:07:51,800 we were going to spend the next week. 145 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,100 Steve the lawyer had made no attempt 146 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,900 to investigate the cops. 147 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,600 He plead guilty to all the murders 148 00:08:00,700 --> 00:08:04,100 and didn't even try and make a deal for lesser sentence. 149 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,700 Aileen had no money to pay him, so Steve 150 00:08:06,800 --> 00:08:10,400 used the money obtained from interview fees. 151 00:08:10,500 --> 00:08:12,700 This man in front of me is the state prosecutor, 152 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,900 who wants to execute Aileen immediately. 153 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,100 This is the first time I've seen Steve for 11 years. 154 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,800 He said my film got him run out of town. 155 00:08:21,900 --> 00:08:23,000 - Fuck you. 156 00:08:23,100 --> 00:08:23,800 - What? 157 00:08:23,900 --> 00:08:24,800 - Fuck you. 158 00:08:24,900 --> 00:08:28,500 Fuck you and the. 159 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:29,600 - I'm like, what are you reading? 160 00:08:29,700 --> 00:08:31,300 - Fuck you and your documentaries. 161 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:32,300 - Well, nice to see you anyway. 162 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:33,400 - Don't talk to me. 163 00:08:33,500 --> 00:08:34,100 - What? 164 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:34,900 - Don't talk to me. 165 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,200 All rise, please. 166 00:08:54,300 --> 00:08:56,600 Circuit Court is back in session. 167 00:08:56,700 --> 00:08:57,200 - OK. 168 00:08:57,300 --> 00:08:59,200 You may be seated. 169 00:08:59,300 --> 00:09:00,100 All right. 170 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,400 Let's continue. 171 00:09:03,500 --> 00:09:13,700 - Now, um, you were contacted by Mr. Broomfield in 1992. 172 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:16,800 Do you recall specifically charging, or attempting 173 00:09:16,900 --> 00:09:20,800 to charge Mr. Broomfield $25,000 for an interview? 174 00:09:20,900 --> 00:09:24,200 - I didn't attempt to charge anybody anything. 175 00:09:24,300 --> 00:09:28,100 If Miss Wuornos asked me, Steve, I-- or told me, 176 00:09:28,100 --> 00:09:31,300 Steve, I want $25,000 for this interview, 177 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:32,900 I would have passed that onto the person 178 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,600 who was interviewing. 179 00:09:34,700 --> 00:09:39,000 But it's-- it's not my position to, um, um, 180 00:09:39,100 --> 00:09:42,100 set fees or we didn't have a fee schedule. 181 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,600 - Will you admit at you're depicted on the movie 182 00:09:44,700 --> 00:09:47,600 "The Selling of a Serial Killer" doing exactly that? 183 00:09:47,700 --> 00:09:52,400 Trying to get $10,000-- or I think $25,000 for an interview? 184 00:09:52,500 --> 00:09:56,000 - There's-- there's-- I don't think there's any evidence that 185 00:09:56,100 --> 00:09:59,300 I tried to get $25,000 or anything. 186 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,300 - So the next stage is really to come up with a counteroffer? 187 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,500 - No, the next stage is to come up with $25,000. 188 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:06,700 - Right. 189 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:07,700 We're just talking to you about-- 190 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:08,200 - But--OK. OK. 191 00:10:08,300 --> 00:10:09,700 Well, then-- 192 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,400 Well then, do a counteroffer. 193 00:10:11,500 --> 00:10:12,900 - If you're not, then the next thing to do is to really get 194 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,500 a counteroffer and let's-- and let's tell her something. 195 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,100 - So we would basically then pay the money to-- well, 196 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:21,500 we pay the money to you, or to, as her legal-- 197 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:26,500 - As her mom, and then Steve gets a percentages as our agent. 198 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:27,600 - Right. 199 00:10:27,700 --> 00:10:28,800 I see. 200 00:10:28,900 --> 00:10:30,500 Very tiny percentage. 201 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,000 This poor man works for nothing. 202 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,100 - Nick, wait a second. 203 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,300 What's Davy Crockett doing on the $100? Bill? 204 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:46,200 Thank you, very much. 205 00:10:46,300 --> 00:10:49,000 - Have you seen the-- Mr. Broomfield's production, 206 00:10:49,100 --> 00:10:50,200 "The Selling of a Serial Killer?" 207 00:10:50,300 --> 00:10:51,000 - Yes. 208 00:10:51,100 --> 00:10:52,400 - OK. 209 00:10:52,500 --> 00:10:54,500 And you've seen yourself depicted in that movie? 210 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:55,500 - Yes, sir. 211 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,500 - Do you recall joking in that movie 212 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,100 that your advice to any client facing the electric chair was, 213 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,000 to quote Woody Allen, don't sit down? 214 00:11:06,900 --> 00:11:11,000 - I remember making a lot of jokes in that movie. 215 00:11:11,100 --> 00:11:14,200 - Judge, we're talking about the depictions of Mr. Glazer 216 00:11:14,300 --> 00:11:16,700 in the movie "The Selling of a Serial Killer," 217 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:21,600 that the defendant submits fairly captures the essence 218 00:11:21,700 --> 00:11:24,500 of his approach to a representation, 219 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:28,800 which clearly impeaches his claim that he had taken 220 00:11:28,900 --> 00:11:31,200 this as an altruistic pro bono national lawyer's 221 00:11:31,300 --> 00:11:32,700 guild. 222 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,700 It helps establish the claim that all along his motive 223 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,200 in taking this case was the publicity 224 00:11:37,300 --> 00:11:38,500 and the money to be made. 225 00:11:41,500 --> 00:11:43,600 I have to say, I always liked Steve. 226 00:11:43,700 --> 00:11:45,300 He was an old hippy from Micanopy 227 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,200 who was just way out of his depth. 228 00:11:47,300 --> 00:11:48,900 - The only thing really to do here 229 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,800 is to have breakfast and then leave. 230 00:11:54,900 --> 00:11:58,800 This is Dawn Botkins, Aileen's best friend. 231 00:11:58,900 --> 00:12:01,800 - What was that little ditty you had about Ocala? 232 00:12:01,900 --> 00:12:03,800 I really don't believe Steve took the case 233 00:12:03,900 --> 00:12:06,200 on for money, but he was so inexperienced he 234 00:12:06,300 --> 00:12:08,400 could only plead guilty for Aileen. 235 00:12:08,500 --> 00:12:10,900 He didn't even have a fax machine or law office. 236 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,800 - When I was living in a tepee in Micanopy, I had-- 237 00:12:15,900 --> 00:12:18,200 I went through the whole thing, cows, chickens, geese, and-- 238 00:12:18,300 --> 00:12:19,700 I got all that. 239 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:20,700 --Pigs. 240 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,100 I had a cow called Sir Angus McBeef, 241 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:24,800 just so you know what he's going to be. 242 00:12:24,900 --> 00:12:28,300 You know, you try to rationalize that you're 243 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,100 going into the refrigerator, you're going-- 244 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:31,500 and that was the last meat I was able to eat. 245 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:32,700 DAWN BOTKINS : I guess 246 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:33,800 you can look at it that way. 247 00:12:33,900 --> 00:12:35,100 - Yeah. 248 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,000 Aileen lived in a total fantasy world. 249 00:12:38,100 --> 00:12:39,500 She thought she'd get off the murders 250 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,900 and then live with this woman, Arlene Pralle, 251 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,800 a born-again Christian who had seen Aileen's picture 252 00:12:44,900 --> 00:12:47,800 in the local newspaper and had adopted her. 253 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:49,800 Together, they planned to run a horse ranch 254 00:12:49,900 --> 00:12:54,100 and raise she-wolves 255 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:56,400 Arlene Pralle, the born-again Christian, 256 00:12:56,500 --> 00:12:59,300 hired Steve and persuaded Aileen to come clean with God 257 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:00,700 and plead guilty. 258 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:03,200 Steve had been advised that Aileen was paranoid 259 00:13:03,300 --> 00:13:06,300 and suffered from borderline personality disorder, 260 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,300 but still went along with this cockeyed scheme. 261 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:12,000 Aileen seemed to think a miracle might happen, 262 00:13:12,100 --> 00:13:15,300 and was outraged to receive three more death sentences. 263 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:16,800 I sentence you 264 00:13:16,900 --> 00:13:19,500 to death for the murder of Charles Humphreys, case number 265 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,600 91-112, Cypress County case number. 266 00:13:22,700 --> 00:13:27,100 I sentence you to death for the murder of David Spears. 267 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,000 - Thank you. 268 00:13:29,100 --> 00:13:31,000 And, I'll probably see you. 269 00:13:31,100 --> 00:13:33,500 I'll be up in Heaven while ya'll are rotting in hell. 270 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,700 I hope they get whipped in the ass one of these days. 271 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,700 Fifth Circuit to handle that. 272 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:38,800 OK. 273 00:13:38,900 --> 00:13:39,800 There will be an automatic appeal. 274 00:13:39,900 --> 00:13:41,100 You have the right to an appeal. 275 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,400 Mr. Glazer is that going to be handled 276 00:13:42,500 --> 00:13:43,500 by you or the public defender? 277 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,000 - May your wife and kids get raped-- 278 00:13:45,100 --> 00:13:46,700 - I would ask that you appoint the public defenders office. 279 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,100 --Right in the ass. 280 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,200 I know I was raped and you ain't nothing but a bunch of scum. 281 00:13:50,300 --> 00:13:51,900 Therefore, these proceedings 282 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,100 are now concluded. 283 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,400 - Putting somebody who was raped to death? 284 00:13:54,500 --> 00:13:55,500 - All rise, please. Court will be adjourned. 285 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:56,600 - You bunch of motherfuckers! 286 00:14:03,700 --> 00:14:06,200 In many Death Row cases, a client in despair 287 00:14:06,300 --> 00:14:07,900 will say they want to die. 288 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:10,400 It was a measure of Steve the lawyer's inexperience 289 00:14:10,500 --> 00:14:15,000 that he took Aileen's wish on face value. 290 00:14:15,100 --> 00:14:17,100 Sir, will you come on up here, please? 291 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,400 I like to flatter myself 292 00:14:18,500 --> 00:14:21,200 that I was being asked for my legal opinion. 293 00:14:21,300 --> 00:14:22,900 But it turned out I was there to talk 294 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,200 about Steve's marijuana smoking. 295 00:14:25,300 --> 00:14:27,700 The big question was whether Steve had consumed seven 296 00:14:27,700 --> 00:14:31,600 very strong joints before giving Aileen legal advice in prison. 297 00:14:31,700 --> 00:14:35,000 - You know, I've got a short video clip I want to show, 298 00:14:35,100 --> 00:14:36,100 if I may. 299 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:40,000 It's an excerpt from the film that 300 00:14:40,100 --> 00:14:43,600 depicts this alleged six, seven joint ride. 301 00:14:43,700 --> 00:14:47,000 And as a preliminary question, isn't it true 302 00:14:47,100 --> 00:14:55,100 that in doing your work, you routinely edit things, correct? 303 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:56,600 - Well, you always edit afterwards, yeah. 304 00:14:56,700 --> 00:14:58,300 And editing 305 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,100 involves cutting and pasting and putting things together. 306 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:01,100 - Mm-hm. 307 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:02,000 Correct? 308 00:15:02,100 --> 00:15:03,100 - Yeah. 309 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:04,100 PROSECUTOR : And that's 310 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:05,300 what you do all the time? 311 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:06,300 - Well, I don't know about the pasting, 312 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:07,400 but you certainly can't. 313 00:15:07,500 --> 00:15:09,000 Pasting in terms 314 00:15:09,100 --> 00:15:14,800 of inserting and connecting and making things fit together. 315 00:15:14,900 --> 00:15:15,900 - Correct. 316 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:16,700 - OK. 317 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,400 It was 6 a.m. 318 00:15:22,500 --> 00:15:24,900 Steve said it was a seven joint ride to the prison 319 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,400 and he brought along a tape of his own music 320 00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:29,900 with him singing and playing all the instruments, 321 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:31,900 especially for the occasion. 322 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,000 - OK. 323 00:16:11,100 --> 00:16:11,800 Let's go back. 324 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:15,700 You recognize that? 325 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:16,600 - Yes. 326 00:16:16,700 --> 00:16:17,800 Apol-- - That's your work, isn't it? 327 00:16:17,900 --> 00:16:18,700 - I apologize for the quality. 328 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:19,700 It's not a very good copy. 329 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:20,900 - But that's still your work? 330 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,400 - Yes. 331 00:16:22,500 --> 00:16:25,000 - You notice that the shirt that Mr. Glazer has on is white? 332 00:16:25,100 --> 00:16:27,200 Uh-huh. 333 00:16:27,300 --> 00:16:28,300 PROSECUTOR : Now, here 334 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,700 he's got a blue shirt on, correct? 335 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,300 Maybe he changed his shirt. 336 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:34,100 I don't know. 337 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:35,400 I mean-- 338 00:16:35,500 --> 00:16:38,400 He had a blue shirt on. 339 00:16:38,500 --> 00:16:39,900 And now he's got a white one on. 340 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,300 Now he's got a white shirt. 341 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,000 - Well, it's possible he changed his shirt. 342 00:16:44,100 --> 00:16:46,000 I've-- I've got-- maybe he put a clean 343 00:16:46,100 --> 00:16:47,600 white shirt on for the prison visit. 344 00:16:47,700 --> 00:16:49,500 But isn't it also possible that you 345 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:54,700 just cut and paste and took footage from one episode 346 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,500 and cut and paste it into another episode to make it look 347 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:02,000 like something that hadn't, in fact, happened? 348 00:17:02,100 --> 00:17:08,200 - Uh, I remember distinctly the-- I mean, the seven joint ride 349 00:17:08,300 --> 00:17:10,500 if that's what you're referring to. 350 00:17:10,600 --> 00:17:12,700 I don't remember him changing his shirt. 351 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:16,100 But we could-- if you want, we can make all the outtakes 352 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,300 available from that particular journey. 353 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:19,300 Well-- 354 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:20,900 - Because they're still available. 355 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,300 - That's not very convenient right now. 356 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:23,700 And you hadn't made those available before. 357 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:25,600 - Well, I didn't know you wanted them before. 358 00:17:25,700 --> 00:17:27,700 And I-- you know, I didn't even know that the film was 359 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,300 going to be submitted as evidence. 360 00:17:36,300 --> 00:17:38,500 If I was making that trip, I would probably 361 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,000 change my shirt at the end of the trip. 362 00:17:41,100 --> 00:17:42,300 I don't know about you. 363 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,300 - But that's not part of my question, is it? 364 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:45,500 I don't know. 365 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,000 But I would-- I would probably bring 366 00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:49,200 a clean shirt along for my visit. 367 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:50,700 Wouldn't you? 368 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:52,100 I would. 369 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,700 - Keep in touch. 370 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:56,700 - Uh-uh, sir. 371 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:57,100 No, sir. 372 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:57,700 - Sorry. 373 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:58,500 Sorry. 374 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:08,900 - I got a message that Aileen wanted 375 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,300 me to come meet her at the local jail. 376 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:12,600 She had something to say. 377 00:18:22,700 --> 00:18:24,200 Thank goodness. 378 00:18:24,300 --> 00:18:26,700 - Oh my, God. 379 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,100 - How are you? 380 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:29,000 - I'm doing good. 381 00:18:29,100 --> 00:18:30,400 Get it out of there, Nick. 382 00:18:30,500 --> 00:18:31,900 - I'm just trying to-- sorry. 383 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:33,700 - Ah, there. 384 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:34,800 Shoo! 385 00:18:34,900 --> 00:18:37,200 - It was the microphone, we're adjusting now. 386 00:18:37,300 --> 00:18:39,700 Sorry about that. 387 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:40,900 - Oh, Lordy. 388 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:41,700 - All right. 389 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:42,900 - OK. 390 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,300 I can't believe this microphone, how small it is, 391 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:45,600 you know, and it actually works. 392 00:18:45,700 --> 00:18:46,400 - It actually works. 393 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,400 - OK, Nick. 394 00:18:49,500 --> 00:18:51,600 Nick, this-- this interview, man. 395 00:18:51,700 --> 00:18:54,600 I got to-- I-- I just-- let me do this thing over one more 396 00:18:54,700 --> 00:18:56,600 time because I know you guys pre-tape 397 00:18:56,700 --> 00:18:58,000 then you clip and stuff. 398 00:18:58,100 --> 00:18:59,500 Right. 399 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,800 - So let me say it one more time, kind of right, OK? 400 00:19:01,900 --> 00:19:03,300 OK. 401 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,400 - Because I'm really concerned about the family members. 402 00:19:05,500 --> 00:19:06,900 Right. 403 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:11,500 - I got to get my hair out of my face while I'm doing this. 404 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,800 Because I'm really concerned about family members, man. 405 00:19:14,900 --> 00:19:18,700 So I want to say this again over. 406 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,100 Nick, the reason I'm-- I'm coming forth with you with this 407 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:30,100 interview is because I'd like to come clean about my cases. 408 00:19:30,100 --> 00:19:32,900 And because there's only about a 1 % chance 409 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,300 that a person can get off Death Row. 410 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:39,500 And I come to realize that that is actually true. 411 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:40,900 Very, very true. 412 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,800 There's only, like, about 82 people that got off Death Row 413 00:19:43,900 --> 00:19:49,000 af-- in-- in like 30 years out of like about 4,000 or 5,000 414 00:19:49,100 --> 00:19:54,500 Death Row inmates, and those are only DNA people, blood samples. 415 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:57,900 So the chances of getting off Death Row are 1 %. 416 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,700 99.9 % you're going to be on it and you're going to die. 417 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,200 OK, I cannot go in the execution chamber and die 418 00:20:05,300 --> 00:20:08,700 in the execution chamber as a liar. 419 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,500 And I cannot go in the execution chamber 420 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,500 and be executed under the devil. 421 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,900 I have to come clean and clean-- cleanse 422 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,400 my spirit in the name of Jesus Christ. 423 00:20:19,500 --> 00:20:22,600 So I have to come clean and tell the world 424 00:20:22,700 --> 00:20:25,200 the lies that went on through my mouth. 425 00:20:25,300 --> 00:20:27,700 I mean, now prosecutors and cops-- 426 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,600 And that you killed seven men. 427 00:20:29,700 --> 00:20:30,900 - Huh? 428 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,100 That you killed those men in cold blood. 429 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:33,300 - Yeah. 430 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,300 I got to come clean that I killed those seven 431 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:39,600 men in first-degree murder and robbery. 432 00:20:39,700 --> 00:20:43,200 As they said, they had it right, a serial killer. 433 00:20:43,300 --> 00:20:45,000 Not so much like thrill kill. 434 00:20:45,100 --> 00:20:47,200 I was into the robbing biz. 435 00:20:47,300 --> 00:20:49,000 I mean, you know, serial killers are 436 00:20:49,100 --> 00:20:50,400 in this thrill killing jazz. 437 00:20:50,500 --> 00:20:53,900 I was into the robbing just-- and eliminate a witness. 438 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,700 But still, again, I got a number so it's serial killer. 439 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:00,900 But I'm coming clean before I go in that execution chamber 440 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,200 and be executed that I killed them. 441 00:21:04,300 --> 00:21:05,500 And so when you met them 442 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,100 from the beginning, did you know that you 443 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,100 were going to kill them? 444 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,600 When they picked you up in their cars? 445 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,300 - I pretty much-- I pretty much had 446 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,500 them selected that they were going to die. 447 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:23,300 But when you're saying that there 448 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,400 was no self-defense, so there was no self-defense? 449 00:21:26,500 --> 00:21:27,200 - No. 450 00:21:27,300 --> 00:21:30,200 There was no self-defense. 451 00:21:30,300 --> 00:21:33,200 Uh, I'm being really straight up about everything. 452 00:21:33,300 --> 00:21:34,600 There's no self-defense. 453 00:21:34,700 --> 00:21:37,100 I'm really sorry what happened about everything. 454 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,300 I was in-- in this-- this-- to me, 455 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,500 this world is nothing but evil and all of us 456 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,100 are full of evil one way or another. 457 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,200 And whatever we do, we have evil in us. 458 00:21:49,300 --> 00:21:50,500 All of us do. 459 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:55,300 And my evil just happened to come out 460 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,500 because of the circumstances of what I was doing. 461 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:03,300 Hitchhiking, hooking, on the road, 462 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,300 I was a homeless person all my life. 463 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:06,600 And then the hitchhiking and hooking I 464 00:22:06,700 --> 00:22:08,800 learned off the homelessness and cruising 465 00:22:08,900 --> 00:22:11,700 all over the United States of America and stuff. 466 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:16,500 And so, learning how to be a hooker as a hitchhiker 467 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,500 eventually got tiring in the end. 468 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:20,800 I carried the gun for protection, 469 00:22:20,900 --> 00:22:24,000 but then I got where I was getting a real problem 470 00:22:24,100 --> 00:22:28,300 and our rent was due, $1,200 behind. 471 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,400 Tyria was doing a lot of beer-drinking and stuff. 472 00:22:30,500 --> 00:22:31,700 She wanted to go out all the time, 473 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,500 so she was burning up the money I was making. 474 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,200 I was making good, about $200 to $300 a day sometimes. 475 00:22:37,300 --> 00:22:38,500 Sometimes $150. 476 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:39,500 But did she-- and did 477 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:40,600 she know what you were doing? 478 00:22:40,700 --> 00:22:41,700 - Oh, yeah. 479 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,100 Tyria always knew everything I was doing. 480 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:44,500 - I met her in a bar. 481 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,400 This is Aileen's great love, Tyria. 482 00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:50,500 One of the reasons I had felt so much sympathy for Aileen 483 00:22:50,500 --> 00:22:52,900 was that she was betrayed by those closest to her 484 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,200 all her life. 485 00:22:54,300 --> 00:22:56,400 - We were sitting on the floor watching TV 486 00:22:56,500 --> 00:23:00,000 and she just come out and said I have something to tell you. 487 00:23:00,100 --> 00:23:02,200 And I asked her what, and she said 488 00:23:02,300 --> 00:23:04,500 that she had shot and killed a man that day. 489 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,600 Tyria know about the murders all along, 490 00:23:06,700 --> 00:23:08,600 but didn't come forward to say anything 491 00:23:08,700 --> 00:23:11,400 until she was questioned by police. 492 00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:13,700 Tyria, who was never charged with anything, 493 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:15,400 was then made a state's witness. 494 00:23:15,500 --> 00:23:18,500 And, it has been asserted, became part of the movie rights 495 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,600 package in the Hollywood police film deal. 496 00:23:21,700 --> 00:23:24,200 It was Tyria who got Aileen to confess 497 00:23:24,300 --> 00:23:27,700 in a series of taped phone calls. 498 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:28,600 Hello. 499 00:23:28,700 --> 00:23:29,800 Miss Ty? 500 00:23:29,900 --> 00:23:31,100 Yes. 501 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,400 Collect call from Aileen. 502 00:23:32,500 --> 00:23:33,800 Do you accept? - Yes. 503 00:23:33,900 --> 00:23:34,900 - Yes. - Hi. 504 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,300 Hey. 505 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:37,800 Hey, I had to call you early 506 00:23:37,900 --> 00:23:38,500 because I didn't know if you were going to leave today, 507 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:39,900 or what. 508 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:40,900 I don't-- what the hell's going on, Lee? 509 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,000 They've called. 510 00:23:42,100 --> 00:23:43,300 They've been up to my parents again. 511 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:44,600 They've got my sister now asking her questions 512 00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:46,100 and I don't know what the hell's going on. 513 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,400 Huh. 514 00:23:48,500 --> 00:23:50,600 What are they asking your sister questions for? 515 00:23:50,700 --> 00:23:53,900 I don't know. 516 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,200 Hmm. 517 00:23:55,300 --> 00:23:56,500 Lee, Lee, listen. 518 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,500 They're coming after me, I know they are. 519 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,500 No, they're not.. 520 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:01,800 They've got to. 521 00:24:01,900 --> 00:24:04,400 Then why are they asking so many questions then? 522 00:24:04,500 --> 00:24:05,900 Honey, listen. 523 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:06,900 Listen. 524 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,200 Listen. 525 00:24:08,300 --> 00:24:09,900 Do what you gotta do, OK? 526 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,900 I'm going to have to because I'm not 527 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,000 going to go to jail for something that you did. 528 00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:15,500 This isn't fair. 529 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,400 My family is a nervous wreck up there. 530 00:24:17,500 --> 00:24:19,200 My mom has been calling me all the time. 531 00:24:19,300 --> 00:24:21,500 She doesn't know what the hell's going on. 532 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:22,400 OK. 533 00:24:22,500 --> 00:24:24,600 Do what you gotta do, OK? 534 00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:26,000 All righty? 535 00:24:26,100 --> 00:24:26,900 Tyria? 536 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:28,100 What? 537 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,100 You-- I'm not 538 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,700 going to let you go to jail. 539 00:24:30,700 --> 00:24:32,500 You hear me? 540 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:33,800 I don't know 541 00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:35,300 whether I should keep on living or if I should-- 542 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:36,300 No, Ty. 543 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,800 Ty, listen to me. 544 00:24:37,900 --> 00:24:39,600 And what if they don't believe me? 545 00:24:39,700 --> 00:24:40,800 Tyria, listen to me. 546 00:24:40,900 --> 00:24:42,000 What? 547 00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:43,100 I'm not going 548 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,300 to let you go to jail or anything. 549 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,700 Listen, if I have to confess, I will. 550 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:47,800 OK. 551 00:24:47,900 --> 00:24:48,900 So you were very close? 552 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,200 - Yeah, we are. 553 00:24:50,300 --> 00:24:52,400 All right. 554 00:24:52,500 --> 00:24:54,700 - And I still miss her and I still love her. 555 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,600 And I really-- and I'm really sorry about everything 556 00:24:58,700 --> 00:24:59,500 I've done. 557 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:00,200 I miss Ty. 558 00:25:00,300 --> 00:25:02,300 I lost Tyria over this. 559 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,200 And then the people that lost their loved 560 00:25:04,300 --> 00:25:05,700 ones and everything. 561 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,900 I really think first about the people that lost their loved 562 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,100 ones and then Ty second, because I 563 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,500 have to put them in first on this whole thing. 564 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,500 I'm really sorry for, you know, them losing their loved ones, 565 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:17,200 man. 566 00:25:17,300 --> 00:25:18,300 I know the feeling. 567 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,600 - And what about with Richard Mallory? 568 00:25:20,700 --> 00:25:23,300 Because you gave that testimony with Richard Mallory. 569 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,500 - Yeah, Richard Mallory is definitely-- was not 570 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:27,800 self-defense. 571 00:25:27,900 --> 00:25:32,800 Richard Mallory I killed in-- for he had-- uh, I needed 572 00:25:32,900 --> 00:25:35,700 his wheels to move the stuff and he had the right amount 573 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,600 of money I needed to move into the apartment, so. 574 00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:40,200 But what about the testimony 575 00:25:40,300 --> 00:25:42,400 that you gave in court about-- 576 00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:45,700 - Oh, that's just-- like I was saying. 577 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:47,200 About the Visine. 578 00:25:47,300 --> 00:25:49,600 - Oh, I just doing a lying biz. 579 00:25:49,700 --> 00:25:53,300 It was just my lying gig to try to beat the system. 580 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:54,600 Really? 581 00:25:54,700 --> 00:25:57,900 So that was really all-- none of it was true? 582 00:26:01,700 --> 00:26:04,800 - And he said, it doesn't matter to me. 583 00:26:04,900 --> 00:26:10,800 Your bod-- your body will still be warm for my huge cock. 584 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:19,200 And he said-- he was choking me and I was holding it like this, 585 00:26:19,300 --> 00:26:22,200 and he said, do you want to die, slut? 586 00:26:22,300 --> 00:26:24,700 And I just nodded no. 587 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,700 And then he said, are you gon-- you going 588 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,600 to listen to everything I've got to say, have you do? 589 00:26:29,700 --> 00:26:31,100 And I'm just nodded yes. 590 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,800 Then what happened? 591 00:26:32,900 --> 00:26:38,600 - Takes the Visine and he lifts up my legs 592 00:26:38,700 --> 00:26:44,800 and he puts what turned out to be rubbing alcohol 593 00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:53,600 in the Visine bottle and he sticks some up my rectum area. 594 00:26:58,100 --> 00:27:00,400 And that really hurt real bad, because he 595 00:27:00,500 --> 00:27:02,900 tore me up for a while. 596 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:09,600 And he put some in my vagina, which really hurt bad. 597 00:27:12,900 --> 00:27:16,200 And then he walked around back to the driver's seat-- side 598 00:27:16,300 --> 00:27:21,400 and he pulled my nose open like this-- pulled them open 599 00:27:21,500 --> 00:27:25,900 and then he squirt rubbing alcohol down my nose. 600 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,000 And he said, I'm saving your eyes for the grand finale. 601 00:27:29,100 --> 00:27:31,300 And he put the Visine back on the dash 602 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,900 and I spit in his face. 603 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,300 And he said, you're dead, bitch, you're dead, 604 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,300 and he was wiping his eyes. 605 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:41,700 And I laid down real quick and I grabbed my bag. 606 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,300 And he was starting to come for-- for me 607 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,900 when I grabbed my bag and turn-- whipped 608 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,500 my pistol out toward him. 609 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,800 And he was coming toward me with his right arm, I believe, 610 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,200 and I shot immediately. 611 00:27:54,300 --> 00:27:57,500 And I think I shot twice as fast as I could. 612 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:58,800 Because in court, 613 00:27:58,900 --> 00:28:00,500 you gave such a graphic description 614 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:05,000 of what had happened with Richard Mallory. 615 00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:06,200 - Yeah, after sitting around thinking 616 00:28:06,300 --> 00:28:07,600 how I could drum up a story. 617 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,900 That was pretty convincing. 618 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,000 - Was it? 619 00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:14,200 That's sad. 620 00:28:14,300 --> 00:28:15,000 Well, I thought so. 621 00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:15,700 - God, that's sad. 622 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,500 Well-- 623 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,500 And it's not-- and it's not that you just 624 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,400 decided that you wanted to die and you wanted to get it over 625 00:28:24,500 --> 00:28:28,000 and done with that you changed your story? 626 00:28:28,100 --> 00:28:29,300 - No. 627 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,900 The reason is, it's serious. 628 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,100 You-- there's no way-- nobody should go in that execution 629 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:42,000 chamber dying on a hope for a lie, and even by the second 630 00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:43,700 make it out of this thing on a lie. 631 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,200 But I hear, you know, 632 00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:47,700 that you just couldn't stand being on Death Row 633 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,700 after 12 years. 634 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:55,100 - Nick, and that-- this is the last time I'm going to say it. 635 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,700 You have to kill Aileen Wuornos because she'll kill again. 636 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,000 I had always believed that Aileen Wuornos 637 00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:08,000 had acted in self-defense, and that Richard Mallory, 638 00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:11,500 her first victim, who had a long history of sex crimes 639 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,300 and who had spent five years in an institution for sex 640 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:18,000 offenders, had tortured and tormented Aileen, pushing her 641 00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:20,000 over the edge into an insanity which 642 00:29:20,100 --> 00:29:22,800 led to the other six murders. 643 00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:25,600 This is what Aileen said to Judge Uriel Blount 644 00:29:25,700 --> 00:29:28,700 before the sentencing on the Richard Mallory murder. 645 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,300 - What I did was what anybody else would do. 646 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,400 I defended myself, which everybody 647 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:38,500 has the right to defend themselves. 648 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,000 And I had no intentions of killing anyone. 649 00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:43,300 I would not do that. 650 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,200 Not-- I'm not that type of person. 651 00:29:46,300 --> 00:29:48,100 But the jury didn't go for it. 652 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,000 This was Aileen's reaction on receiving 653 00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:51,400 her first death sentence. 654 00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:53,100 Count one, the majority 655 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,300 of the jury by a vote of 12-0, advise and recommend 656 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,300 to the court that it impose the death penalty upon Aileen Carol 657 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,300 Wuornos, also known as Susan Lynn Blahovec, 658 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,300 also known as Lori Christine Grody, 659 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,200 also known as Cammie Marsh Greene. 660 00:30:06,300 --> 00:30:08,200 Dated at DeLand, Volusia County Florida, 661 00:30:08,300 --> 00:30:14,200 this 30th day of January 1992. 662 00:30:14,300 --> 00:30:15,300 Hi, Lee. 663 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,100 How do you feel about the verdict? 664 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,300 - Innocent. 665 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,100 And I was raped and I was tortured. 666 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,900 And I-- they had a steering wheel. 667 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,300 They took the steering wheel and it had scratches all over it 668 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,700 and it was broken. 669 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,900 And it proved that I was tied to that steering wheel. 670 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,500 And I cannot believe-- I cannot believe what happened. 671 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,400 Why did this jury find you guilty? 672 00:30:39,500 --> 00:30:42,900 - I think it's the media coverage. 673 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:43,900 It's a conspiracy. 674 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,600 I couldn't believe what happened 675 00:31:06,700 --> 00:31:11,100 the next day in court, Aileen objecting to her own witnesses. 676 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,400 - Um, and-- and I need to get this on record, if I could. 677 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,800 She's taking it down. 678 00:31:15,900 --> 00:31:17,200 - OK. 679 00:31:17,300 --> 00:31:20,200 Uh, the-- there's some witnesses that are coming. 680 00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:21,700 Yes, ma'am. 681 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,100 - And I've already told my attorneys on numerous occasions 682 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,400 these people did not grow up with me at all. 683 00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:29,800 Um, they lived in the neighborhood, 684 00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:33,100 but they didn't really associate with me, my brother, 685 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:34,400 and my sister and everybody else. 686 00:31:34,500 --> 00:31:35,900 - Here's the only thing. 687 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,400 The attorney can call them, but he 688 00:31:38,500 --> 00:31:42,100 can't put on anyone he thinks is, uh, committing perjury. 689 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,100 That's unethical for him to do that. 690 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,800 If he thinks they're lying-- if he knows that they're lying, 691 00:31:46,900 --> 00:31:48,000 he can't put them on. 692 00:31:48,100 --> 00:31:49,000 - OK. 693 00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:49,900 Thank you. 694 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:50,900 - Thank you. 695 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,200 - Judge? 696 00:31:52,300 --> 00:31:54,100 Yes ma'am--uh, yes, sir. 697 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,300 - May the defense request a, uh, 10 minute recess? 698 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:58,600 Yeah, OK. 699 00:31:58,700 --> 00:32:00,600 In view of-- OK, in view of those statements. 700 00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:01,900 - I need to confer with my associates. 701 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:02,900 Of course. 702 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,200 Yeah. 703 00:32:04,300 --> 00:32:05,400 OK, they want to take 10 minutes and confer 704 00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:07,000 on what they want to say, OK? 705 00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:08,000 - Yes, sir. 706 00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:09,100 All right. 707 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,200 We'll be recessed for 10 minutes. 708 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:14,100 Aileen was deliberately 709 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,400 sabotaging her own defense. 710 00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:19,200 But the witnesses were called anyway. 711 00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:26,500 Danny Caldwell, like many 712 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,500 of the boys in the neighborhood, lost his virginity to Aileen. 713 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,900 Aileen was trading blow jobs for cigarettes 714 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,500 from the age of nine. 715 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,100 - I was just heading over there to see who was there and got up 716 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:41,900 to the fort and the door was kind of closed, so I, you know, 717 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,300 opened it up. 718 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:48,000 And Keith had-- Keith and Mark had Aileen in there. 719 00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:49,100 What do you 720 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,300 mean that they had Aileen in there? 721 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,400 - Well, they had her in there and, you know, 722 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:59,700 she was naked and-- 723 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,300 And-- and what was happening? 724 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,600 - Well, um, Keith was having sex with her. 725 00:33:11,700 --> 00:33:13,500 Did you stay during that? 726 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:14,300 - Yes. 727 00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:20,200 Did you ever have sex with Aileen again 728 00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:21,100 afterwards? 729 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,500 - Uh, just that day. 730 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,700 Jerry Moss, who was a lover of Aileen's, 731 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,400 pretended in public he didn't even know her. 732 00:33:28,500 --> 00:33:34,000 - She-- she wanted us to be boyfriend-girlfriend in public, 733 00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:35,500 and I-- 734 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,400 When-- when you were in public 735 00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:40,200 around other kids, when the rest of the kids were around, 736 00:33:40,300 --> 00:33:41,700 how did you treat her? 737 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,700 - Like she was nobody. 738 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,200 Like she was dirt. 739 00:33:45,300 --> 00:33:48,300 Like I had nothing to do with her, you know. 740 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,100 What would you say to her? 741 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,500 - Tell her, get the fuck out of my face 742 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,500 and go some fucking place else. 743 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,300 Would you call her any names? 744 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,500 - Call her ugly, bitch. 745 00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:08,200 If she were following along 746 00:34:08,300 --> 00:34:10,200 behind you, what would you do? 747 00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:13,900 - It would, uh, depend on who was with me or whatever. 748 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,900 But I'd turn around and throw rocks at her 749 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,500 and tell her to get the fuck out of there, go home. 750 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,300 Why--why would you do that? 751 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:21,600 - Because I didn't want to be seen with her. 752 00:34:21,700 --> 00:34:23,900 I didn't want to be associated with her. 753 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,400 Do you know whether she was having 754 00:34:30,500 --> 00:34:34,200 sexual relations with anyone else at this time? 755 00:34:34,300 --> 00:34:36,200 - Yes, I do. 756 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,100 And who was that? 757 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:42,600 - Um, her-- her brother, Keith. 758 00:34:42,700 --> 00:34:46,400 Is that her uncle? 759 00:34:46,500 --> 00:34:48,200 Or is that her actual biological-- 760 00:34:48,300 --> 00:34:51,200 - That's her actual-- actual brother. 761 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,500 I just want to make sure that, you know. 762 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:57,800 - I just wanted to remark that they need 763 00:34:57,900 --> 00:35:00,400 to take a polygraph on what their saying 764 00:35:00,500 --> 00:35:03,400 because there's too much perjury going on. 765 00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:04,600 All right. 766 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,200 Michelle Chauvin 767 00:35:17,300 --> 00:35:19,400 recalled an incident with Aileen's grandfather. 768 00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:21,200 - Raise your right hand. 769 00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:23,600 - I don't know how much you want me to say. 770 00:35:23,700 --> 00:35:25,500 He was a bastard. 771 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,600 Do you recall an incident 772 00:35:27,700 --> 00:35:30,000 when you and Aileen skipped school? 773 00:35:30,100 --> 00:35:31,200 - Yes. 774 00:35:31,300 --> 00:35:32,500 What happened 775 00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,500 when-- did you go to Aileen's house with her? 776 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:39,100 - Um, I walked home with her and we had gotten caught. 777 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,000 And I remember looking through the front-- 778 00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:44,600 they had a screen door view. 779 00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:48,400 And the minute she walked in, he had her over a chair. 780 00:35:48,500 --> 00:35:52,200 And I stood there and watched him. 781 00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:54,900 And he beat the hell out of her with a black belt 782 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,300 that was around his waist. 783 00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,800 He took it off and told her to lean over the chair, 784 00:35:58,900 --> 00:36:01,100 and walloped on her for a good five minutes. 785 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,500 Was this what you would call a spanking? 786 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:04,700 - Oh, no. 787 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:05,800 No. 788 00:36:05,900 --> 00:36:08,400 It was like, I was-- it left me hypnotized. 789 00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:10,200 Did he know you were watching? 790 00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:11,400 - Yeah, he did. 791 00:36:11,500 --> 00:36:12,700 He was aware I was watching. 792 00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:19,100 Is that, uh, just an example as to-- 793 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,900 - That's an example, yes. 794 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,200 It had been a long week, all the witnesses 795 00:36:27,300 --> 00:36:29,200 stuck together in this motel. 796 00:36:29,300 --> 00:36:31,100 - Do you think we'd all go mad if we were 797 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,100 locked up here much longer together? 798 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,700 - Well, I'm getting tired of it. 799 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:36,300 Dawn insisted that gays hadn't been invented 800 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,000 when she and Aileen first became friends. 801 00:36:39,100 --> 00:36:40,700 - They weren't invented or whatever. 802 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:41,900 There was no gay people. 803 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,600 Well, what were they all doing? 804 00:36:43,700 --> 00:36:44,500 - They weren't gay. 805 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:45,900 There was no such thing as gay. 806 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,600 - They were in the closet. 807 00:36:47,700 --> 00:36:49,200 - No they weren't There was no such thing. 808 00:36:49,300 --> 00:36:52,200 I don't remember a person at school gay. 809 00:36:52,300 --> 00:36:56,000 I didn't hear this gay stuff until 10 years ago. 810 00:36:56,100 --> 00:36:57,200 Well, maybe 15. 811 00:36:57,300 --> 00:36:58,600 It's just now starting to be acceptable. 812 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,300 But, no, there was not. 813 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,300 Was there gay people when you went to school? 814 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,600 - I'm sure that there probably were. 815 00:37:07,700 --> 00:37:09,300 I went to a British public school, there were 816 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,000 many-- that's where it was invented, us and the Greeks, 817 00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:12,800 you know? 818 00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:13,700 - No way. 819 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:14,600 Really? 820 00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:16,900 - Yeah, of course. 821 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,100 - I just have to do this. 822 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,100 Sorry. 823 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:21,000 Look! 824 00:37:21,100 --> 00:37:23,200 Come on you guys. 825 00:37:23,300 --> 00:37:24,700 After all that, Aileen 826 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:30,000 decided to volunteer for execution and we all went home. 827 00:37:30,100 --> 00:37:33,600 Now that Aileen was confessing to being a coldblooded killer, 828 00:37:33,700 --> 00:37:37,300 Aileen found she had a lot of new friends. 829 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,000 - Her appeals have been exhausted. 830 00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:44,000 She wants to meet her Creator. 831 00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:45,100 She's on the list. 832 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,300 Absolutely. 833 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:47,600 Governor Jeb Bush 834 00:37:47,700 --> 00:37:49,900 is expected to sign Wuornos' warrant soon. 835 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,500 We had all come to this as witnesses, 836 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,500 hoping to get Aileen off Death Row. 837 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,400 But it now felt like we were taking part in an execution. 838 00:38:08,500 --> 00:38:10,200 There was talk of making an appeal 839 00:38:10,300 --> 00:38:13,100 on the grounds of Aileen's mental competence. 840 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,400 We traveled to Troy, Michigan, where 841 00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:17,300 Aileen grew up to find out more. 842 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,400 This is Dawn's house. 843 00:38:21,900 --> 00:38:22,900 - Hi, Joan. 844 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,800 How are you? 845 00:38:24,900 --> 00:38:26,200 I think about you a lot. 846 00:38:26,300 --> 00:38:28,400 My kids just come over with the grandbabies, 847 00:38:28,500 --> 00:38:29,500 so you get to see them. 848 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,600 - Her granddaughter and her grandson. 849 00:38:32,700 --> 00:38:34,300 - How are you? 850 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,900 Dawn gets up and writes to Aileen at 5 a.m. 851 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:38,400 every morning. 852 00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:40,800 - I got looking for one thing today, 853 00:38:40,900 --> 00:38:44,700 so I figured while I had Aileen's shit out, 854 00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:45,500 you can sit here. 855 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:46,700 - What, all this? 856 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,600 - Yeah, and I got lots of pictures of her brothers 857 00:38:48,700 --> 00:38:51,400 and stuff like that, that you might want to look at. 858 00:38:51,500 --> 00:38:52,100 - Really? 859 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:52,800 - Well, yeah. 860 00:38:52,900 --> 00:38:53,600 - All this? 861 00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:55,100 - All this. 862 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,100 I was looking for her Will. 863 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:58,200 I couldn't find her Will. 864 00:38:58,300 --> 00:38:59,000 - Her Will? 865 00:38:59,100 --> 00:39:00,700 - Yeah. 866 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,900 OK, here you just sit down for a while. 867 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,000 Aileen does the most amazing ink drawings 868 00:39:05,100 --> 00:39:06,700 that you can only see against the light. 869 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,800 - It's because you can't see them by looking down at them, 870 00:39:08,900 --> 00:39:11,600 but it's perfect with the sunlight outside. 871 00:39:11,700 --> 00:39:12,300 See how that does that? 872 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:13,300 Wow. 873 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,100 Have you got any-- any pictures of when she was quite young? 874 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,500 Ah. 875 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:22,900 - Isn't that kind of funny? 876 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,800 - That is funny, isn't it? 877 00:39:25,900 --> 00:39:27,600 - Oh, that's her sister. 878 00:39:27,700 --> 00:39:28,300 - That's-- 879 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,300 - That's her graduation. 880 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,200 - That's Lori? 881 00:39:31,300 --> 00:39:32,200 - Yeah. 882 00:39:32,300 --> 00:39:34,100 That's what she looks like now. 883 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:36,100 There were other photos, too. 884 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,900 Aileen aged four. 885 00:39:37,900 --> 00:39:40,800 Her brother Keith, age six. 886 00:39:40,900 --> 00:39:42,500 Aileen's biological mother, Diane, 887 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,600 who abandoned Aileen when she was six months old. 888 00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:48,400 Aileen's father Leo, who was convicted of kidnapping 889 00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:50,400 and sodomizing an eight-year-old boy. 890 00:39:50,500 --> 00:39:53,400 He committed suicide in prison. 891 00:39:53,500 --> 00:39:57,000 Aileen's grandfather Lowry, who she called dad and is rumored 892 00:39:57,100 --> 00:39:59,400 to be Aileen's biological father. 893 00:39:59,500 --> 00:40:02,400 He abused both Aileen and her mother. 894 00:40:02,500 --> 00:40:04,700 Aileen, aged 13, when she got pregnant 895 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,200 and had a baby boy that was put up for adoption. 896 00:40:14,700 --> 00:40:18,600 After the baby, Aileen became the local untouchable. 897 00:40:18,700 --> 00:40:20,700 She spent two years living in the woods 898 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:21,600 at the end of her street. 899 00:40:35,900 --> 00:40:38,300 Aileen used to have a fort back here, 900 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,400 as a matter of fact. 901 00:40:39,500 --> 00:40:40,400 A fort? 902 00:40:40,500 --> 00:40:41,400 A fort. 903 00:40:41,500 --> 00:40:42,700 With Dennis. 904 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,400 Uh, yeah. 905 00:40:44,500 --> 00:40:46,800 So Aileen would just sleep rough? 906 00:40:46,900 --> 00:40:47,900 Mm-hm. 907 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,000 She would either sleep in the cars 908 00:40:49,100 --> 00:40:50,100 or she would go around prostituting 909 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:51,600 at night to keep warm. 910 00:40:51,700 --> 00:40:52,600 Stuff like that. 911 00:40:52,700 --> 00:40:54,400 And, hopefully, she'd get a hotel. 912 00:40:54,500 --> 00:40:56,500 You know, some of these guys would say we'll go get a hotel 913 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:57,800 and she could get a shower. 914 00:40:57,900 --> 00:40:59,900 That's how she washed and stuff like that. 915 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,800 Or she would go to that gas station 916 00:41:01,900 --> 00:41:04,100 up there, which is still there by the way, 917 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,400 used to be the Clark. 918 00:41:05,500 --> 00:41:07,000 That's-- we used to go in there and pinch 919 00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:09,200 our nose and drink what was it? 920 00:41:09,300 --> 00:41:10,200 Boone's Farm. 921 00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:11,200 - Peppermint schnapps. 922 00:41:11,300 --> 00:41:12,800 It's disgusting. 923 00:41:12,900 --> 00:41:15,300 It's the only way you could drink it to get the quick buzz. 924 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,500 I know it sounds sickening, it was sickening. 925 00:41:17,500 --> 00:41:20,600 But it must've been freezing in the winter. 926 00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:21,800 - Well, it was for her. 927 00:41:21,900 --> 00:41:23,100 I didn't come out here in the winter, I'm sure. 928 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,400 I don't think none of us did. 929 00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:25,000 She was out here in the winter? 930 00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:25,900 - Yeah. 931 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:26,300 That's why she left. 932 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,500 So did the other kids pick on her at all? 933 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:35,400 - Yeah. 934 00:41:35,500 --> 00:41:36,800 Do you remember where we're at? 935 00:41:36,900 --> 00:41:39,900 Yeah, they always picked on her or she picked on them, 936 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:41,000 because they always had something 937 00:41:41,100 --> 00:41:42,400 terrible to say about her. 938 00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:44,500 But that's because she had a baby, 939 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,600 and they naturally assumed that she-- well, she did get-- you 940 00:41:47,700 --> 00:41:49,800 know, she slept with people for money and all that. 941 00:41:49,900 --> 00:41:52,500 So I imagine the girls in our days 942 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,500 probably thought, well, she sleeps with everybody 943 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,400 and they just didn't like that. 944 00:41:57,500 --> 00:41:59,200 They don't think it's funny now, though. 945 00:41:59,300 --> 00:42:00,800 How do you mean? 946 00:42:00,900 --> 00:42:03,100 I think it's terrible how they treated her. 947 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,600 Now-- 948 00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:06,000 - And everybody all of a sudden comes out of the woodwork 949 00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:07,400 and said, oh, I was nice to her. 950 00:42:07,500 --> 00:42:09,000 I gave her clothes and stuff like that. 951 00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:09,800 No they didn't. 952 00:42:33,700 --> 00:42:35,400 We went to visit Dennis Allen, who 953 00:42:35,500 --> 00:42:39,800 lived in the woods with Aileen and now lives in this house. 954 00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:40,600 Hi. 955 00:42:40,700 --> 00:42:41,600 - How are you? 956 00:42:41,700 --> 00:42:42,300 - Hi. 957 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:43,500 How do you do? 958 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:44,200 I'm Nick. 959 00:42:44,300 --> 00:42:45,100 - Nick? 960 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,000 Dennis. - Hi. 961 00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:46,900 How do you do? 962 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:47,600 - Hi. JOAN (OFFSCREEN: Hi. 963 00:42:47,700 --> 00:42:48,100 I'm Joan. 964 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,000 - Hi, Joan. 965 00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:49,500 Hello. 966 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:50,600 - Hi. 967 00:42:50,700 --> 00:42:51,500 - And who-- who are these fine creatures? 968 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:52,500 - Oh, those are my birds. 969 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,500 That's, uh, Freckles and Freda. 970 00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:55,900 Freckles and Freda. 971 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,500 - Mm-hm. 972 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:58,800 This is a picture 973 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,800 of Dennis, who used to be a cross dresser. 974 00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:04,100 Dennis looked out his only picture of his time 975 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,200 in the woods with Aileen. 976 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,700 - Now, it was kind of a mess around there. 977 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,100 In fact, the police took this picture. 978 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:15,100 Oh, did they? 979 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:16,500 - That's how I got it. 980 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:17,900 Yeah, I don't know if you can see-- 981 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,000 What's it of? 982 00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:20,300 - Let me see. 983 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,200 Well, this was when they were subdividing. 984 00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:26,400 They threw all the stumps over in one section 985 00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:28,400 and these were all made with stumps 986 00:43:28,500 --> 00:43:30,800 with straw packed in around. 987 00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:32,300 This is where I slept. 988 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,200 It was just long enough to get in there and sleep. 989 00:43:35,300 --> 00:43:37,400 And so, Aileen would come and visit you. 990 00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:38,700 - Yeah. 991 00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,600 Every now and then, she'd find one of my camps and come. 992 00:43:40,700 --> 00:43:43,600 In fact, the last camp I was at when Aileen found 993 00:43:43,700 --> 00:43:46,100 me was what we called the little round lake. 994 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,500 It was way down at the bottom of a gully and it was round. 995 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,400 And I had a piece of plywood that somebody had left there 996 00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:54,700 and I just made a lean-to with two posts 997 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,100 and put that up on it. 998 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,900 And that was the last place, in fact, 999 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,200 Aileen-- the last camp she come that I had was that one. 1000 00:44:03,300 --> 00:44:04,300 This is a picture 1001 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,700 of Chief, the local pedophile. 1002 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,900 He's thought to be the father of Aileen's child. 1003 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,900 Chief later committed suicide. 1004 00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,600 He was like this bit of a strange old man, 1005 00:44:14,700 --> 00:44:15,600 wasn't he? 1006 00:44:15,700 --> 00:44:16,900 - Kind of, yeah. 1007 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:18,300 A lot of people thought he was. 1008 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,900 But they were a gathering place there for kids 1009 00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,900 because they had kids from everywhere 1010 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,400 that came there all the time. 1011 00:44:26,500 --> 00:44:29,400 And I remember when I was little, see, 1012 00:44:29,500 --> 00:44:31,800 Chief would want to pick kids up and put them on his lap 1013 00:44:31,900 --> 00:44:34,400 and he'd talk and tell them about this and that. 1014 00:44:34,500 --> 00:44:38,000 And I never would allow it because I just-- he 1015 00:44:38,100 --> 00:44:40,000 kind of freaked me a little bit. 1016 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:44,000 I can remember one time he had some chicken eggs because he 1017 00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:46,400 had chickens and all this kind of thing, 1018 00:44:46,500 --> 00:44:50,400 and he'd pick them open when they were ready to hatch. 1019 00:44:50,500 --> 00:44:53,200 And I couldn't stand it, him doing that. 1020 00:44:53,300 --> 00:44:54,400 He'd pick them open? 1021 00:44:54,500 --> 00:44:56,400 - He would pick the shells open as they 1022 00:44:56,500 --> 00:44:58,000 were trying to come through. 1023 00:44:58,100 --> 00:45:00,100 He would pick them open and it would be too early for them 1024 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:01,200 still, you know. 1025 00:45:01,300 --> 00:45:02,200 And they'd die? 1026 00:45:02,300 --> 00:45:03,900 - A lot of times they would. 1027 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,700 They weren't really ready to come out of there yet. 1028 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,400 They wouldn't live. 1029 00:45:08,500 --> 00:45:09,900 - They're still there. 1030 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,500 Michelle drove us to Aileen's old home. 1031 00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,700 They grew up as Vietnam was ending 1032 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,600 and drugs were everywhere. 1033 00:45:16,700 --> 00:45:18,900 - Aileen's house is right over there. 1034 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:19,800 You want to go by it? 1035 00:45:19,900 --> 00:45:20,400 - Yeah. 1036 00:45:20,500 --> 00:45:21,100 - OK. 1037 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:22,400 I'll take you by it. 1038 00:45:22,500 --> 00:45:24,300 This was Mark Farron's house. 1039 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:25,600 We are all connected together. 1040 00:45:25,700 --> 00:45:27,400 We all used to hang in the neighborhood. 1041 00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:30,600 You know, all the kids packed together. 1042 00:45:30,700 --> 00:45:34,400 This was Terry Cox' house right here. 1043 00:45:34,500 --> 00:45:36,900 Um, she used to do a lot of drugs 1044 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,200 with who lived in this little white one. 1045 00:45:39,300 --> 00:45:42,800 This is Aileen's house right here. 1046 00:45:42,900 --> 00:45:43,900 This is it. 1047 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,000 That's it there? 1048 00:45:45,100 --> 00:45:46,100 - That's it. 1049 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,500 This is her house. 1050 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:48,800 And when you saw her being beaten. 1051 00:45:48,900 --> 00:45:49,900 Ah, that door right there. 1052 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,200 I was in front of that door. 1053 00:45:51,300 --> 00:45:52,500 See, they've redid the house since then. 1054 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,500 But that room in the very back is her bedroom. 1055 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:57,000 Not the first one, but the one in the back. 1056 00:45:57,100 --> 00:45:58,700 And that's where she was being-- 1057 00:45:58,800 --> 00:45:59,800 Yeah. This one. 1058 00:45:59,900 --> 00:46:00,900 The second window. 1059 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:02,200 And see how low they are? 1060 00:46:02,300 --> 00:46:03,800 She used-- she used to climb right out of them. 1061 00:46:03,900 --> 00:46:07,100 If somebody sees us in there, they will come out and raise 1062 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:08,500 hell, because I'm-- Corey was with 1063 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,900 me when that happened last time. 1064 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:16,400 And lived right here. 1065 00:46:16,500 --> 00:46:18,500 And they were druggies also. 1066 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,500 We used to hang together and go over there and smoke pot and do 1067 00:46:21,500 --> 00:46:24,800 what not and get in all kinds of shit. 1068 00:46:24,900 --> 00:46:26,600 But lots of different drugs? 1069 00:46:26,700 --> 00:46:27,500 - Yes! 1070 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,900 Lots of, um, pills actually. 1071 00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:31,900 Pills? 1072 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:35,500 - LSD, mescaline, blotter acid. 1073 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:36,900 Um-- 1074 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:47,700 Aileen, age 16, left Michigan and traveled down 1075 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,700 here to Florida looking for sun and friends. 1076 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,400 She was young and pretty, earning good money as a hooker, 1077 00:46:53,500 --> 00:46:56,400 but with a violent temper and soon in trouble. 1078 00:46:56,500 --> 00:46:58,100 She knocked one man out with a beer 1079 00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,400 bottle, another with a billiard ball. 1080 00:47:00,500 --> 00:47:03,500 She particularly liked it here near Daytona Beach. 1081 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,700 This is one of the motels, the Fairview, 1082 00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:06,800 where she frequently stayed. 1083 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,700 It was all so new and exciting. 1084 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,600 Just down the road is the Last Resort biker 1085 00:47:14,700 --> 00:47:17,200 bar, where Aileen liked to hang out. 1086 00:47:17,300 --> 00:47:20,200 She was allegedly great friends with the Human Bomb. 1087 00:47:21,100 --> 00:47:24,000 - 3, 2, 1. 1088 00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:45,000 - How do you feel? 1089 00:47:45,100 --> 00:47:47,000 - Real dizzy right now. 1090 00:47:47,100 --> 00:47:48,200 Real dizzy. 1091 00:47:48,300 --> 00:47:49,400 Did you know Lee well? 1092 00:47:49,500 --> 00:47:50,500 - Yeah. 1093 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,700 Uh, can I talk to ya'll in a few minutes? 1094 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,000 I gotta walk this off. 1095 00:48:01,100 --> 00:48:02,400 After Keith, her brother, 1096 00:48:02,500 --> 00:48:05,900 died of cancer at age 21, Aileen surprised everyone 1097 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:10,300 by marrying this man, Lewis Fell; who was 76 years old 1098 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,100 and President of the Keystone Coal Company. 1099 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:17,100 But after only a month, Lewis filed for restraining charges 1100 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,600 after Aileen beat Lewis with his own walking stick. 1101 00:48:20,700 --> 00:48:23,200 In her late 20s, Aileen gave up on men 1102 00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:25,200 and started dating women. 1103 00:48:25,300 --> 00:48:28,200 Here's Tyria, who became Aileen's family. 1104 00:48:28,300 --> 00:48:30,500 They lived together for over three years. 1105 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,000 This was one of the homes they had. 1106 00:48:33,100 --> 00:48:34,900 Aileen saw herself as a kind of Bonnie 1107 00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:39,000 and Clyde character on the run with her lover, Tyria. 1108 00:48:39,100 --> 00:48:40,800 Aileen and Tyria's favorite pastime 1109 00:48:40,900 --> 00:48:44,400 was drinking beer and firing their pistols in the woods. 1110 00:48:44,500 --> 00:48:47,000 Aileen got books on being a survivalist. 1111 00:48:47,100 --> 00:48:50,100 She wanted Tyria all to herself. 1112 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,100 Tyria described Aileen as a fantasist, 1113 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,200 who became jealous and possessive, 1114 00:48:54,300 --> 00:48:57,300 and who could be violent and frightening. 1115 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,700 In the end, Tyria ran off as the police were closing in. 1116 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,000 In loneliness and desperation, Aileen 1117 00:49:04,100 --> 00:49:06,400 ended up with this man, Dick Mills. 1118 00:49:06,500 --> 00:49:08,000 - This is that paper you're talking about? 1119 00:49:08,100 --> 00:49:09,400 Yeah. 1120 00:49:09,500 --> 00:49:13,500 It's-- it's called "My Sex Romps with Kinky Mankiller." 1121 00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,000 Dick had sold his story 1122 00:49:15,100 --> 00:49:16,700 to the "News of the World." 1123 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,800 - All I want to know is, who's the best lawyer out there, man, 1124 00:49:19,900 --> 00:49:21,600 to sue them for this trash? 1125 00:49:21,700 --> 00:49:22,800 Can I quote-- 1126 00:49:22,900 --> 00:49:24,000 - I never even talked that shit. 1127 00:49:24,100 --> 00:49:25,300 Can I quote you a bit? 1128 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,800 And get-- if you said this, right? 1129 00:49:27,900 --> 00:49:30,000 We were lying in bed one night when she started talking 1130 00:49:30,100 --> 00:49:34,400 about her favorite sexual fantasies. 1131 00:49:34,500 --> 00:49:38,000 She said she often got turned on by imagining 1132 00:49:38,100 --> 00:49:39,600 she had a black hood over her head 1133 00:49:39,700 --> 00:49:41,700 and was tied to a tree in a forest. 1134 00:49:41,700 --> 00:49:45,100 Then a guy would come up, rape her, and shoot her in the head. 1135 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,100 She said the actual killing would make her climax. 1136 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:52,000 I was real sickened by what she said. 1137 00:49:52,100 --> 00:49:53,500 - Wrong. 1138 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:54,400 Wrong. 1139 00:49:54,500 --> 00:49:56,100 There's partial truth to that. 1140 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:57,600 But most of that, I don't know where it came from 1141 00:49:57,700 --> 00:49:59,500 or who got it or nothing about it. 1142 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,100 And you can check any film anywhere 1143 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:02,600 in the country or anybody that's got it. 1144 00:50:02,700 --> 00:50:05,300 I never said that, OK? 1145 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:10,100 It goes along the lines that she told me one time that the idea 1146 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:11,600 was that she'd like to lay in bed out 1147 00:50:11,700 --> 00:50:13,100 in the middle of the forest, the woods 1148 00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,300 or somewhere in the mountains or something. 1149 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:15,500 Have a hood over her head or something, 1150 00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:16,800 and somebody crawl in through the window. 1151 00:50:16,900 --> 00:50:18,400 No-- they had the hood on or something, 1152 00:50:18,500 --> 00:50:20,100 and would rape or this and that kind of shit 1153 00:50:20,300 --> 00:50:21,300 and she'd like that. 1154 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:22,800 I mean, did you-- 1155 00:50:22,900 --> 00:50:24,200 - As far as all these other things go pertaining to it, 1156 00:50:24,300 --> 00:50:25,500 there's no reality to it. 1157 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:26,300 Did you get any feeling 1158 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:27,900 that she hated men, or? 1159 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,500 - No, I just got the feeling she is what she was, a dyke. 1160 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,600 Except I didn't know she was a killer. 1161 00:50:32,700 --> 00:50:34,100 There's no way I could know that. 1162 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,300 I mean, could you 1163 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:38,400 tell that when you made love to her, or? 1164 00:50:38,500 --> 00:50:39,600 - Nah, not particularly. 1165 00:50:39,700 --> 00:50:41,100 She just probably liked it either way, 1166 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:42,700 whatever came along. 1167 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,300 Didn't really seem to matter much. 1168 00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:45,700 It's just another bad experience, 1169 00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:47,500 I'm sure, for both of us. 1170 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,000 This is Aileen when 1171 00:50:52,100 --> 00:50:53,800 first charged with the murders. 1172 00:50:53,900 --> 00:50:55,800 It was just after the phone conversations 1173 00:50:55,900 --> 00:50:57,900 with Tyria that had led her to confess. 1174 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,400 What Aileen didn't know was that Tyria, herself, was involved 1175 00:51:03,500 --> 00:51:06,200 in movie discussions involving Florida State 1176 00:51:06,300 --> 00:51:09,100 Police and production companies in Hollywood. 1177 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,100 They were selling her story, the story 1178 00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,100 of America's first female serial killer. 1179 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,100 You understand 1180 00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:15,100 the nature of the charges? 1181 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,600 - Yes, I do, sir. 1182 00:51:16,700 --> 00:51:17,700 Do you wish to be represented by counsel? 1183 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,000 - Yes, I do. 1184 00:51:19,100 --> 00:51:19,800 Can you afford to hire an attorney? 1185 00:51:19,900 --> 00:51:20,800 - No, sir. 1186 00:51:20,900 --> 00:51:21,400 Do you work? 1187 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:22,200 - No. 1188 00:51:22,300 --> 00:51:23,000 I'm in jail. 1189 00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:24,400 How can I work? 1190 00:51:24,500 --> 00:51:25,900 Well, obviously you're not working 1191 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,100 now, but how long has it been since you've last worked? 1192 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:32,700 - Oh, about, um, '84, possibly. 1193 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,700 You haven't worked in six or seven years? 1194 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,400 How do-- how do you support yourself? 1195 00:51:36,500 --> 00:51:38,900 - I was a special call girl. 1196 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,200 When Sergeant Brian Jarvis, who is now 1197 00:51:41,300 --> 00:51:44,100 police chief in New York State, objected to these movie 1198 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:47,900 discussions, he was taken off the Wuornos case. 1199 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,200 - Right, I was actually transferred 1200 00:51:49,300 --> 00:51:51,700 back into the patrol division. 1201 00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:55,700 It had followed a month of continual harassment 1202 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:57,900 on the job in the current position I was in, 1203 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,700 which ultimately started when Captain Binegar had realized 1204 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:06,900 that I found out about their plan to work with Tyria Moore 1205 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,000 in obtaining a movie rights package. 1206 00:52:09,100 --> 00:52:10,400 The state attorney's report 1207 00:52:10,500 --> 00:52:13,600 found that three of Jarvis' fellow officers, Captain 1208 00:52:13,700 --> 00:52:16,400 Binegar, Sergeant Munster, and Major Dan Henry 1209 00:52:16,500 --> 00:52:19,700 were involved in movie discussions with Tyria Moore 1210 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:20,900 after Aileen's arrest. 1211 00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,600 - Yeah, ultimately when the--when the arrest came, 1212 00:52:24,700 --> 00:52:27,100 Lee Wuornos was charged with the murder and Tyria 1213 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,400 Moore was not charged with anything. 1214 00:52:29,500 --> 00:52:32,400 But she was made a state's witness 1215 00:52:32,500 --> 00:52:36,300 and she was working with these fellow officers 1216 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,700 on obtaining movie rights. 1217 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:40,700 This note was them pinned under Sergeant 1218 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,400 Jarvis's back door and his home burgled. 1219 00:52:44,500 --> 00:52:47,700 - Less than a month later, on November 25, 1220 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,900 my wife had gone out to the post office and the store 1221 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,300 during daylight hours, like 10 o'clock in the morning. 1222 00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,900 When she came home, the house had been broken into. 1223 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,700 The doors were ajar. 1224 00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,700 She went up to my office and all of the files 1225 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,900 on the Wuornos case, on the investigators, 1226 00:53:03,900 --> 00:53:05,800 and all the information I had had been trashed. 1227 00:53:05,900 --> 00:53:07,300 Nothing else had been touched in the house. 1228 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:08,800 How do you feel, Aileen? 1229 00:53:08,900 --> 00:53:11,500 - Bust these crooked cops and their conspiracy, please! 1230 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,100 Are you afraid, Aileen? 1231 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,500 - I'm innocent. 1232 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:16,300 Aileen was right about the cops 1233 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:17,800 and their movie deals. 1234 00:53:17,900 --> 00:53:20,800 But in her paranoia, she also believed that the police had 1235 00:53:20,900 --> 00:53:24,100 known about the first murder but allowed her to become 1236 00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,100 a serial killer, because then they'd 1237 00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,900 get more money for their film deals. 1238 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,300 Aileen's lawyers are challenging the execution 1239 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,800 on the grounds of her mental competence. 1240 00:53:33,900 --> 00:53:37,200 Not that executing insane people seems to be a problem. 1241 00:53:37,300 --> 00:53:40,400 In 1989, the Supreme Court ruled it was not 1242 00:53:40,500 --> 00:53:44,400 unconstitutional to execute the mentally impaired. 1243 00:53:44,500 --> 00:53:48,400 Aileen's paranoid delusions have gotten much worse on Death Row. 1244 00:53:48,500 --> 00:53:50,400 She now believes her mind is being controlled 1245 00:53:50,500 --> 00:53:53,500 by radio waves beamed into her cell. 1246 00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:56,200 - Aileen Wuornos says her food is being tainted 1247 00:53:56,300 --> 00:53:57,800 and she's being threatened with rape. 1248 00:53:57,900 --> 00:54:00,800 - CBS 4's Joan Murray is live in Fort Lauderdale with the story. 1249 00:54:00,900 --> 00:54:02,000 John Joan. 1250 00:54:02,100 --> 00:54:04,400 - Well, now she has written a 25-page letter 1251 00:54:04,500 --> 00:54:08,600 where she names names, names security-- or rather guards 1252 00:54:08,700 --> 00:54:10,500 at the prison where she was being held in Pembroke 1253 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,600 Pines accusing them of harassing her while she awaits execution. 1254 00:54:13,700 --> 00:54:16,700 - And I need some-- an attorney, like a private attorney 1255 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,200 to oversee my well-being until my execution. 1256 00:54:19,300 --> 00:54:21,800 Maybe that would keep things kind of in line 1257 00:54:21,900 --> 00:54:24,200 because there's a lot of illegalness going on. 1258 00:54:28,700 --> 00:54:30,100 It's actually pretty hard 1259 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:32,900 to help Aileen, who by now, not surprisingly, 1260 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:34,600 doesn't trust anyone. 1261 00:54:34,700 --> 00:54:36,500 And she's threatening to fire her lawyer 1262 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,200 if he continues to try to fight the execution. 1263 00:54:40,300 --> 00:54:43,000 Dawn told Aileen about our visit to Troy. 1264 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,600 And Aileen asked for the opportunity 1265 00:54:44,700 --> 00:54:46,700 to put the record straight about her childhood. 1266 00:54:49,900 --> 00:54:50,900 - All right. 1267 00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:51,700 Yep. 1268 00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,300 Will-- will you let me know when she is? 1269 00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:59,500 OK. 1270 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,700 You don't have any secret cameras in your belt, do you? 1271 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:03,800 - Oh, no. 1272 00:55:03,900 --> 00:55:05,600 I just have this rather large one right here. 1273 00:55:32,500 --> 00:55:33,400 Hello. 1274 00:55:33,500 --> 00:55:34,800 - Hello! 1275 00:55:34,900 --> 00:55:37,100 Hey, how you doing? 1276 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,200 Good to see you. 1277 00:55:38,300 --> 00:55:39,000 Hi. 1278 00:55:39,100 --> 00:55:41,800 It's good to see you. 1279 00:55:41,900 --> 00:55:42,900 - Hi, Nick. 1280 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,200 Hi, how are you? 1281 00:55:44,300 --> 00:55:45,000 - I'm doing all right. 1282 00:55:45,100 --> 00:55:45,800 How you doing? 1283 00:55:45,900 --> 00:55:47,000 Good. 1284 00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:49,300 - Check out the orange shirt. 1285 00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:51,100 Wasn't it orange-- wasn't it orange 1286 00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:52,100 before? 1287 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:53,600 - No, they changed it. 1288 00:55:53,700 --> 00:55:55,600 It was-- there-- they got this new thing 1289 00:55:55,700 --> 00:55:57,900 to wear the orange shirt out for Iraq 1290 00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,400 or wherever-- whenever you get out of your cell, 1291 00:56:01,500 --> 00:56:03,600 like-- like Death Row has never escaped. 1292 00:56:03,700 --> 00:56:05,700 Nobody on Death Row has ever escaped, right? 1293 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,600 And they're acting like we're escape risks or something. 1294 00:56:07,700 --> 00:56:11,500 - What-- what it's like being here all the time? 1295 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,200 - What's it like being in here? 1296 00:56:14,300 --> 00:56:16,700 Well, here it's OK. 1297 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,200 It's all right. 1298 00:56:18,300 --> 00:56:21,100 But, you know, you have your problems 1299 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,200 with some staff don't like you-- 1300 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:29,900 Oh, you're a serial killer, you know, biz and stuff. 1301 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:31,600 And so they-- you know, some staff 1302 00:56:31,700 --> 00:56:33,300 won't treat you right because of who you are. 1303 00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:34,700 Have you got any friends? 1304 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,300 - You can't be in control of everybody. 1305 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,800 Have you got any friends here at all? 1306 00:56:38,900 --> 00:56:40,100 - No, I stick to myself. 1307 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,600 I just stick in-- in the cell with myself. 1308 00:56:43,700 --> 00:56:45,100 I don't even care about going outdoors. 1309 00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:46,000 There's nothing out there. 1310 00:56:46,100 --> 00:56:48,100 I don't smoke anymore, so. 1311 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:49,700 So what's you're day like? 1312 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,000 How does it start? 1313 00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:55,600 - I spend 24/7 in the cell watching TV, reading the Bible, 1314 00:56:55,700 --> 00:56:57,500 writing letters to Dawn. 1315 00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:04,200 Um, sitting around doing a lot of thinking, preparing. 1316 00:57:04,300 --> 00:57:08,200 Think-- memory-- going back in time, memory 1317 00:57:08,300 --> 00:57:10,100 of all-- everything I've been through in my life 1318 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,200 and then just preparing for my death. 1319 00:57:12,300 --> 00:57:14,300 Get all the tears out of me and stuff so I won't cry 1320 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:15,500 and that sort of jazz, you know. 1321 00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:17,000 So you won't cry? 1322 00:57:17,100 --> 00:57:18,800 - Because it is going to be a little bit tough when I go. 1323 00:57:18,900 --> 00:57:20,900 Huh? 1324 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,600 Getting all the tears out of you? 1325 00:57:23,700 --> 00:57:25,500 - Yeah. 1326 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,400 Because I just don't want to be in the execution chamber crying 1327 00:57:28,500 --> 00:57:30,500 my eyes out, and I'm not going to. 1328 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:35,800 I'm going to tough it out as tough as I can. 1329 00:57:35,900 --> 00:57:39,500 Just lay on the table, give everybody a little smile, 1330 00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:44,100 and close my eyes and go. 1331 00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:45,400 With Richard Mallory, 1332 00:57:45,500 --> 00:57:47,700 he was the first that you killed? 1333 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,300 - Mm-hm. 1334 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:50,600 Did he abuse you or not? 1335 00:57:50,700 --> 00:57:52,700 Because in the court you said that, you know-- 1336 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:58,800 - Aw, see, I'm not going to go into the-- wait a minute. 1337 00:57:58,900 --> 00:58:00,500 Ow. 1338 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:02,700 No, I won't go in-- I won't go into the murder. 1339 00:58:02,800 --> 00:58:05,400 I won't go into the murders if it was self-defense or not. 1340 00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,300 I'm not going into any of the murders. 1341 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,300 Whether or not they died in self-defense or what, 1342 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:11,100 I'm not going to say. 1343 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:12,600 I'm not saying nothing. 1344 00:58:12,700 --> 00:58:15,500 My concern-- the only reason I'm doing interviews for anybody 1345 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,800 or anything-- my concern is there's-- you've got law 1346 00:58:18,900 --> 00:58:21,200 enforcement out there allowing people to die. 1347 00:58:21,300 --> 00:58:23,800 You got those 50 men in Canada-- I mean, those 50 1348 00:58:23,900 --> 00:58:26,900 women in Canada that died, I'm sure the cops 1349 00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:27,800 knew who the guy was. 1350 00:58:27,900 --> 00:58:30,400 They're letting them kill. 1351 00:58:30,500 --> 00:58:33,200 They want to turn them into high-profile cases 1352 00:58:33,300 --> 00:58:34,700 for books and movies. 1353 00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,200 Well, what was it-- so what was it-- 1354 00:58:36,300 --> 00:58:37,500 I wondered how Aileen, 1355 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:39,100 herself, viewed her childhood in Troy. 1356 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:40,600 - Quite nice living there? 1357 00:58:40,700 --> 00:58:41,300 - Yeah. 1358 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:42,600 Troy's all right. 1359 00:58:42,700 --> 00:58:44,800 Oh, and I want to straighten out something, man. 1360 00:58:44,900 --> 00:58:47,700 See-- hey, Nick, I've got to get this straightened out. 1361 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:51,800 See, the cops lied about my family, Jackie, Drew, and them. 1362 00:58:51,900 --> 00:58:53,400 They all lied about my-- 1363 00:58:53,500 --> 00:58:55,300 Well, how did they lie about your family? 1364 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,500 - Because see-- OK, now I got-- see, 1365 00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,800 I got-- if this documentation, I got 1366 00:58:59,900 --> 00:59:01,200 to square some stuff up here. 1367 00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:02,900 OK, so tell me about your family. 1368 00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:04,000 - OK. 1369 00:59:04,100 --> 00:59:07,700 The truth about my family is this. 1370 00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:13,200 My dad was so straight and so clean he wouldn't even 1371 00:59:13,300 --> 00:59:16,600 wear-- take his shirt off to mow the lawn. 1372 00:59:16,700 --> 00:59:18,800 He did not believe in cussing. 1373 00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:23,500 He did not believe in-- in, uh, long hair 1374 00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,400 and mini skirts and stuff. 1375 00:59:25,500 --> 00:59:29,900 He was really straight, really decent. 1376 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:31,000 And so was my mom. 1377 00:59:31,100 --> 00:59:33,200 My mom hated swearing in the house. 1378 00:59:33,300 --> 00:59:35,100 If you swore-- if you said one swear word, 1379 00:59:35,200 --> 00:59:38,500 you had a whole bar of Lava soap in your mouth. 1380 00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,300 So I came from a real clean and decent family. 1381 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:43,500 But why, then, did 1382 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,500 you get thrown out after the birth? 1383 00:59:46,500 --> 00:59:50,500 - See, after my mom died-- after my mom died, my dad got pissed. 1384 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,500 He's like, OK, this is the last straw, you know? 1385 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,200 I think you are the cause of mom's death 1386 00:59:56,300 --> 00:59:59,900 because she had physical problems that-- because of all 1387 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,300 the stress and the pain and suffering and everything. 1388 01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,600 And what I'm going through as a wild kid is pissing him off. 1389 01:00:06,700 --> 01:00:11,600 I mean, he thinks that that killed her as well, induced 1390 01:00:11,700 --> 01:00:13,300 her death, and so he's pissed off. 1391 01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:15,300 And he doesn't want me home anymore. 1392 01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:16,800 And how-- how did it feel, like, 1393 01:00:16,900 --> 01:00:19,600 having to live in cars and in other people's house? 1394 01:00:19,700 --> 01:00:21,400 - It was living hell. That's why I went to Florida. 1395 01:00:21,500 --> 01:00:23,200 Living hell? 1396 01:00:23,300 --> 01:00:24,400 - Yeah. 1397 01:00:24,500 --> 01:00:25,500 Yeah. 1398 01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,500 I mean, you know, sleeping in the snow. 1399 01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,200 I mean, sleeping in snowy weather in a vehicle 1400 01:00:30,300 --> 01:00:33,500 on cinder blocks at Richie's house. 1401 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:36,900 Sleeping in it with no blank-- I think I had one blanket and one 1402 01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,600 pillow and it's ice cold outside. 1403 01:00:39,700 --> 01:00:41,100 That's when I said, well, I got to go. 1404 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:42,600 I got it down to Florida or something 1405 01:00:42,700 --> 01:00:45,500 now, because I was sleeping in the snow. 1406 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:48,500 Out in the woods sleeping on the ground in the snow. 1407 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,000 You must have been frozen. 1408 01:00:50,100 --> 01:00:51,100 - I was frozen, man. 1409 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:52,600 Yeah. 1410 01:00:52,700 --> 01:00:55,200 I still got marks where my toes are blue to this day, 1411 01:00:55,300 --> 01:00:57,100 and the bottom of my feet are blue. 1412 01:00:57,200 --> 01:01:01,700 And this is probably why I even got my hands like this today. 1413 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,300 I don't know. 1414 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,200 My hands are-- as you can see, they're 1415 01:01:06,300 --> 01:01:07,400 like they're frostbit looking. 1416 01:01:09,900 --> 01:01:12,000 And how were the other kids, though? 1417 01:01:12,100 --> 01:01:13,500 - How-- the other kids? 1418 01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:15,000 They were all living in their houses. 1419 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,900 While I was out on the streets. 1420 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,200 But that's all right, man. 1421 01:01:22,300 --> 01:01:23,700 Because, see, I lived through it. 1422 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:24,300 I survived. 1423 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:25,500 I went down to Florida. 1424 01:01:25,500 --> 01:01:26,900 And then I could-- you know, started 1425 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,300 trekking all over the United States of America and stuff. 1426 01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:31,600 Aileen, let me ask you one question. 1427 01:01:31,700 --> 01:01:34,200 Do you think if you hadn't had to leave your home 1428 01:01:34,300 --> 01:01:37,000 and sleep in the cars and stuff it 1429 01:01:37,100 --> 01:01:39,500 would have worked out differently? 1430 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,400 - Now, if I could do my life all over again 1431 01:01:41,500 --> 01:01:44,300 and I came from a background of a family that was right 1432 01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,000 on, where-- I-- I mean, my family was right on. 1433 01:01:47,100 --> 01:01:50,400 When I was thinking that I meant as far as my mom not dying, 1434 01:01:50,500 --> 01:01:55,400 my dad not freaking out, and us-- if I could do it all over 1435 01:01:55,500 --> 01:01:58,700 again, my family died too young, I had to hit the road. 1436 01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,600 And I came from a family that was supportive, 1437 01:02:02,700 --> 01:02:04,400 we didn't have split sister-- half-sister 1438 01:02:04,500 --> 01:02:06,200 and brother stuff and all that. 1439 01:02:06,300 --> 01:02:08,400 It was all true blood, real blood and everything 1440 01:02:08,500 --> 01:02:13,400 was financially stable and everybody was really tight, 1441 01:02:13,500 --> 01:02:18,700 I would have became more than likely an outstanding citizen 1442 01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:21,900 of America who was-- who would have either 1443 01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:26,300 been an archaeologist, a paramedic, a police officer, 1444 01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:30,300 a fire department gal, or an undercover worker for DEA, 1445 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,200 or arch-- did I say archaeology? 1446 01:02:32,300 --> 01:02:35,700 Or-- oh, or a missionary. 1447 01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,800 Because I believe in God, but I'm not a Christian freak. 1448 01:02:38,900 --> 01:02:40,400 So you think it would've-- 1449 01:02:40,500 --> 01:02:42,700 - And so scrub missionary, because I'm just-- I'm 1450 01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:47,000 just thinking what-- you know, I would've came from a decent, 1451 01:02:47,100 --> 01:02:48,800 I would've done it real decent and stuff. 1452 01:02:48,900 --> 01:02:50,500 Let me ask you something. 1453 01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:54,300 What-- what do you think was the single most happy time 1454 01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:55,600 in your life? 1455 01:02:55,700 --> 01:02:58,700 What-- what do you think you've enjoyed most? 1456 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,900 - Nick, I've been through so much hell I can't even 1457 01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,200 think of something there right now. 1458 01:03:05,300 --> 01:03:07,400 And I'm so burning fucking mad about how I'm 1459 01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,900 being-- I got to wait for my execution! 1460 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:14,300 I want to get in the fucking chamber tomorrow and leave. 1461 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,200 And then they play-- since-- since I waved off, 1462 01:03:17,300 --> 01:03:19,300 I've had nothing but psychological and physical 1463 01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:22,100 fucking problems playing with it because I'm 1464 01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,300 on hold with my execution. 1465 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,800 I'm so fucking mad I can't see straight. 1466 01:03:26,900 --> 01:03:29,200 And they're just daring me to kill again. 1467 01:03:32,300 --> 01:03:33,800 They got me pissed. 1468 01:03:33,900 --> 01:03:36,800 United States Supreme Court, you fucking-- I'm telling you, man! 1469 01:03:36,900 --> 01:03:39,800 You motherfuckers keep fucking with my goddamn execution, 1470 01:03:39,900 --> 01:03:41,600 there's going to be bloodshed. 1471 01:03:41,700 --> 01:03:42,600 I'm sick of this! 1472 01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:47,300 Get that fucking warrant signed. 1473 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,400 Aileen waited until she thought we weren't 1474 01:03:57,500 --> 01:03:59,100 filming to talk about the murders. 1475 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:00,600 I can't do it. 1476 01:04:00,700 --> 01:04:04,000 I would never be able to handle a life sentence or anything. 1477 01:04:04,100 --> 01:04:06,700 And then they've said other things that are really crazy. 1478 01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:09,900 They do crazy things to people while they're incarcerated. 1479 01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,700 I'd never be able to handle it, so I'm going for the death. 1480 01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:16,200 I have to because they're too evil. 1481 01:04:16,300 --> 01:04:18,900 They're too evil to people incarcerated. 1482 01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:21,700 And they're too evil on the cases. 1483 01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:27,200 They're so corrupt it's not funny, so I've got to go down. 1484 01:04:27,300 --> 01:04:28,600 I have to. 1485 01:04:28,700 --> 01:04:29,900 That's why I can't say nothing about self-defense 1486 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,300 on tape or anything. 1487 01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:34,900 - But was it self-defense? 1488 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:35,800 Huh? 1489 01:04:35,900 --> 01:04:37,200 - Was it self-defense? 1490 01:04:37,300 --> 01:04:38,100 What? 1491 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,400 - Was it self-defense? 1492 01:04:40,500 --> 01:04:41,300 What? 1493 01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:42,900 - Was it self-defense. 1494 01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:47,000 Yes, but I can't tell anybody. 1495 01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:48,100 Never. 1496 01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:49,500 I have to go down to the execution. 1497 01:04:52,100 --> 01:04:53,100 They're too corrupt. 1498 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,600 They-- they-- they stick together. 1499 01:04:56,700 --> 01:05:00,700 Hand over fist, hand in glove, man. 1500 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:01,700 - So, it was self-- 1501 01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:02,900 Let's see. 1502 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,200 Hand-- hand over fist, friend in glove. 1503 01:05:05,300 --> 01:05:08,000 - So was-- wasn't there any self-defense? 1504 01:05:08,100 --> 01:05:09,400 Yeah. 1505 01:05:09,500 --> 01:05:11,400 And so was some others. 1506 01:05:11,500 --> 01:05:15,000 But there's nothing I can do about it. 1507 01:05:15,100 --> 01:05:17,500 All they'd do is give me an overturned sentence. 1508 01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:20,100 They would never do me righteous. 1509 01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:21,100 You see what I'm saying? 1510 01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,300 Never do me right. 1511 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:25,400 They'll only fuck me over some more, 1512 01:05:25,500 --> 01:05:27,400 so I can only go to the death. 1513 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,800 - You know, I'm going to always remember you and love you. 1514 01:05:36,900 --> 01:05:39,200 - Yeah, Aileen. 1515 01:05:39,300 --> 01:05:40,300 - I love you so much, man. 1516 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:41,200 Take care of yourself. 1517 01:05:41,300 --> 01:05:42,800 - All right. 1518 01:05:42,900 --> 01:05:43,800 - And nice meeting you. 1519 01:05:43,900 --> 01:05:44,500 Take care. - Nice to meet you. 1520 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:45,200 Take care. 1521 01:05:45,300 --> 01:05:46,600 - Goodbye, Aileen. 1522 01:05:46,700 --> 01:05:47,300 Bye. 1523 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:48,300 - See you later! 1524 01:05:54,100 --> 01:05:55,100 Six months later, 1525 01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,100 this announcement was made. 1526 01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:59,500 Governor Jeb Bush signs 1527 01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,800 death warrants scheduling executions. 1528 01:06:01,900 --> 01:06:04,400 44-year-old Aileen Wuornos is one of the nation's 1529 01:06:04,500 --> 01:06:06,700 first known female serial killers. 1530 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:10,800 She will be executed October 9 for the murders of six men. 1531 01:06:10,900 --> 01:06:13,200 Wuornos has dropped all of her appeals. 1532 01:06:13,300 --> 01:06:15,700 - I did it because, uh, I believe in the death penalty 1533 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:17,500 and I have a duty to implement the law. 1534 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,200 And a great majority of Floridians 1535 01:06:19,300 --> 01:06:20,600 want their governor to do this. 1536 01:06:20,700 --> 01:06:22,500 Jeb Bush is running for reelection 1537 01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:26,000 on a law and order pro death penalty ticket. 1538 01:06:26,100 --> 01:06:28,300 Aileen's execution date for October 9 1539 01:06:28,300 --> 01:06:32,500 fits him perfectly, a month before these elections. 1540 01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:34,800 Brad Thomas, Jeb Bush's political adviser, 1541 01:06:34,900 --> 01:06:38,600 is reported as saying, we want to become more like Texas. 1542 01:06:38,700 --> 01:06:41,000 Bring in the witnesses, put them on a gurney, and let's 1543 01:06:41,100 --> 01:06:41,800 rock and roll. 1544 01:06:54,700 --> 01:06:56,800 We're driving to meet Diane Wuornos, 1545 01:06:56,900 --> 01:06:58,600 Aileen's biological mother. 1546 01:06:58,700 --> 01:07:01,500 They haven't laid eyes on each for 25 years. 1547 01:07:04,100 --> 01:07:06,000 This is Calumet, a copper mining town 1548 01:07:06,100 --> 01:07:08,400 on Michigan's Upper Peninsula. 1549 01:07:08,500 --> 01:07:10,000 The Wuornos family originally came here 1550 01:07:10,100 --> 01:07:13,700 as immigrants from Oulu in Finland to work down the mines. 1551 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:31,400 - OK, let me fix my pillow again. 1552 01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:39,000 OK, I want to tell you, I'm probably going to cry a little. 1553 01:07:41,700 --> 01:07:44,300 I want to tell you something about her birth. 1554 01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:45,700 OK. 1555 01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:50,700 - She was a frank breech birth, that means bottom first. 1556 01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:54,600 And a breech birth is very dangerous. 1557 01:07:54,700 --> 01:08:00,200 And that's feet first, and a frank breech, bottom first, 1558 01:08:00,300 --> 01:08:03,200 is really very bad. 1559 01:08:03,300 --> 01:08:05,600 The doctor even called in other people 1560 01:08:05,700 --> 01:08:09,400 to watch it because it was so unusual. 1561 01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:15,200 But I thought maybe that she got some kind of brain damage 1562 01:08:15,300 --> 01:08:16,400 during that birth. 1563 01:08:16,500 --> 01:08:17,900 Yeah. 1564 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,400 - And that may have cau-- while she's mentally competent, 1565 01:08:21,500 --> 01:08:24,000 it may have caused her problems. 1566 01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,200 What does Aileen think about what 1567 01:08:30,300 --> 01:08:32,300 caused her to act like that? 1568 01:08:37,700 --> 01:08:38,900 Well, originally, 1569 01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,800 she said she did it in self-defense. 1570 01:08:41,900 --> 01:08:45,800 And then she said she just needed the money. 1571 01:08:45,900 --> 01:08:52,200 And she says that if she'd, you know, 1572 01:08:52,300 --> 01:08:58,000 come from a home that wasn't split and-- 1573 01:08:58,100 --> 01:09:02,700 - Oh, because her-- her father and me getting a divorce. 1574 01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:04,600 I-- she didn't say that. 1575 01:09:04,700 --> 01:09:09,400 But I think, um, I think she's confused. 1576 01:09:09,500 --> 01:09:12,300 Because she, on the one hand, says 1577 01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:18,400 she-- says it had nothing to do with her childhood. 1578 01:09:18,500 --> 01:09:22,400 But then on the other hand, she was sleeping out 1579 01:09:22,500 --> 01:09:28,500 in the snow for a while and living in the woods. 1580 01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,900 - She was sleeping in the snow and living in the woods? 1581 01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:32,700 Mm-hm. 1582 01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:36,600 Immediately after she had the baby. 1583 01:09:36,700 --> 01:09:39,400 - I know nothing about that. 1584 01:09:39,500 --> 01:09:42,800 I never heard Barry tell me that. 1585 01:09:42,900 --> 01:09:44,200 After she had the baby, 1586 01:09:44,300 --> 01:09:46,000 she couldn't-- she couldn't move back 1587 01:09:46,100 --> 01:09:47,500 into the house with your father. 1588 01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:48,600 - Yeah. 1589 01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:53,100 - Then she was living in the woods in the snow. 1590 01:09:53,200 --> 01:09:56,900 - Didn't agenc-- agency find her and take-- take care of her? 1591 01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:57,700 No. 1592 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:05,100 And then she ended up, you know, hitchhiking around. 1593 01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:06,700 - Which she liked. 1594 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:24,400 Do you know the exact date of the execution? 1595 01:10:24,500 --> 01:10:25,800 I think it's soon. 1596 01:10:25,900 --> 01:10:27,000 - OK. 1597 01:10:27,100 --> 01:10:29,700 I think it's very soon. 1598 01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:31,500 - I think I'll rest better. 1599 01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:39,000 As we were leaving, 1600 01:10:39,100 --> 01:10:40,800 Diane asked for Aileen's forgiveness. 1601 01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,400 I heard Aileen just fired her lawyer. 1602 01:10:50,500 --> 01:10:53,600 I drove to Stark, Florida, where the execution will happen. 1603 01:10:53,700 --> 01:10:55,800 And to meet Dawn, who's doing the funeral arrangements. 1604 01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:00,300 So what does Aileen 1605 01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:03,300 want to wear, again, for the execution? 1606 01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:06,400 - Um, a black Harley Davidson t-shirt 1607 01:11:06,500 --> 01:11:09,100 with wings, because she believes she's earned her wings, 1608 01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:09,900 which she has. 1609 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:11,700 A pair of jeans. 1610 01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,900 A pair of boots with, um, corner toes. 1611 01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,400 And a military belt. 1612 01:11:18,500 --> 01:11:20,300 I think that's it actually. 1613 01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:22,600 She might have something else on that, I don't know. 1614 01:11:22,700 --> 01:11:26,300 Probably a leather jacket if I know Aileen. 1615 01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:27,900 I know if she can or not, but. 1616 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:31,100 No other wishes that she make? 1617 01:11:31,100 --> 01:11:32,100 - You mean to be-- afterwards? 1618 01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:33,300 Mm-hm. 1619 01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:36,000 - To be cremated and come home to my house, 1620 01:11:36,100 --> 01:11:39,200 be around the people that love her. 1621 01:11:39,300 --> 01:11:41,700 Why would she want to stay in Florida? 1622 01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:42,500 Hmm-mm. 1623 01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:44,900 She's coming home to Michigan. 1624 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:46,200 Aileen's ex-lawyer 1625 01:11:46,300 --> 01:11:49,000 made a last minute plea to stop the execution. 1626 01:11:49,100 --> 01:11:51,200 But Jeb Bush was not going to be stopped. 1627 01:11:51,300 --> 01:11:55,000 - Based on his concerns, uh, we're going to, um, 1628 01:11:55,100 --> 01:11:59,600 ask three psychiatrists to, um, analyze her to make sure 1629 01:11:59,700 --> 01:12:01,300 that she's fit for the execution, 1630 01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,100 which is a duty that I have. 1631 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:04,500 And I intend to do it. 1632 01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,100 Jeb ordered a stay of execution, 1633 01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:07,500 but guess what? 1634 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:10,500 His psychiatrists examined Aileen for just 15 minutes, 1635 01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,800 and then gave the thumbs up to go ahead. 1636 01:12:12,900 --> 01:12:15,500 - Lynn Gordon is in our newsplex now with the latest details. 1637 01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:16,800 Lynn. 1638 01:12:16,900 --> 01:12:18,600 - Laurie, we have just learned that Governor Jeb Bush has 1639 01:12:18,700 --> 01:12:23,400 lifted the stay of execution for serial killer Aileen Wuornos. 1640 01:12:23,500 --> 01:12:26,100 She has been found to be mentally competent. 1641 01:12:26,200 --> 01:12:28,300 That means she will be executed next Wednesday. 1642 01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,100 Aileen's given up the opportunity 1643 01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,300 to do a mass press conference and has 1644 01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,600 asked me to do her last interview. 1645 01:12:45,700 --> 01:12:48,100 I'm sure that's because she wants me to communicate 1646 01:12:48,200 --> 01:12:51,000 her ideas about what she calls the crooked cops. 1647 01:12:56,100 --> 01:12:58,600 The last interview, dumb rules like I've 1648 01:12:58,700 --> 01:13:00,700 got to stand behind this rope. 1649 01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:04,100 There'll be 15 guards, including the warden, in attendance. 1650 01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:06,300 And Aileen, for no good reason, will 1651 01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,700 wear shackles throughout the interview. 1652 01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,800 She-- is he on her way? 1653 01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:11,700 - Pardon? 1654 01:13:11,800 --> 01:13:12,600 Is she on her way, or? 1655 01:13:12,700 --> 01:13:13,800 - Not yet. 1656 01:13:13,900 --> 01:13:15,100 It's been proven that the death 1657 01:13:15,200 --> 01:13:16,400 penalty is absolutely no deterrent. 1658 01:13:16,500 --> 01:13:18,300 States without the death penalty, in fact, 1659 01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:19,800 have lower murder rates. 1660 01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:57,200 Hi, Aileen. 1661 01:14:04,700 --> 01:14:05,600 Hi. 1662 01:14:05,700 --> 01:14:06,400 - Hi. 1663 01:14:10,100 --> 01:14:11,400 You know, I already told you everything, 1664 01:14:11,500 --> 01:14:13,500 so you know, you just go ahead and ask me questions. 1665 01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,200 And if I want to answer them, I'll answer them, OK? 1666 01:14:16,300 --> 01:14:17,800 OK. 1667 01:14:17,900 --> 01:14:22,700 So-- so I-- I guess, you know, I was just wondering how you're 1668 01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:25,700 going to be, you know, at 9:30 tomorrow morning? 1669 01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,100 Are you prepared? 1670 01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,200 - I'm prepared. 1671 01:14:29,300 --> 01:14:30,200 I'm all right. 1672 01:14:30,300 --> 01:14:33,300 I'm all right with it. 1673 01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,400 And how-- 1674 01:14:35,500 --> 01:14:36,600 - I'm all right with it. 1675 01:14:36,700 --> 01:14:39,600 But, like I said, remember and tell-- 1676 01:14:39,700 --> 01:14:43,700 let them know that I know that the cops knew who 1677 01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,700 I was after Richard Mallory died. 1678 01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:50,900 I left prints everywhere and they covered it and let me kill 1679 01:14:50,900 --> 01:14:54,100 the rest of those guys to turn me into a serial killer. 1680 01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:59,500 I know they did because I was no professional serial killer 1681 01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,300 or anything, murderer or whatever you want to call it. 1682 01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:03,500 Wasn't specialize, what I was doing. 1683 01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:04,900 So, Aileen, how--how-- 1684 01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:06,300 - Did some sloppy work, you know, and I left prints. 1685 01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:07,800 - How have you prepared 1686 01:15:07,900 --> 01:15:09,400 yourself for tomorrow morning? 1687 01:15:09,500 --> 01:15:10,100 - How? 1688 01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:11,300 I'm all right with it. 1689 01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:12,900 Hey, I'm ready to go. 1690 01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,200 Hey, I was tortured at BCI. 1691 01:15:16,300 --> 01:15:20,100 They had-- they had the intercom on in the room 1692 01:15:20,300 --> 01:15:22,800 and they kept lying that it wasn't on. 1693 01:15:22,900 --> 01:15:28,100 And they were using sonic pressure on my head since 1997. 1694 01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:29,500 Sonic pressure? 1695 01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:31,400 - And every time I was trying to write something, 1696 01:15:31,500 --> 01:15:34,500 they-- and I think they had some kind of eye in the cell, 1697 01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:35,900 I'm not sure. 1698 01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:39,200 But every time I started writing something, it went up higher. 1699 01:15:39,300 --> 01:15:42,700 So I'm thinking that they probably had the TV rigged. 1700 01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,000 The TV or the mirror or something was rigged. 1701 01:15:45,100 --> 01:15:47,500 They got a huge satellite on the compound. 1702 01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,600 After they put the huge satellite on the compound, 1703 01:15:50,700 --> 01:15:53,300 it could have been either rigged to the TV set or the mirror 1704 01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,100 or something, because the electrician, when he put 1705 01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:56,700 the mirror on the wall, he said, doesn't that 1706 01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:57,800 look like a computer? 1707 01:15:57,900 --> 01:16:01,700 The back of it, and he stuck it to the wall. 1708 01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:04,200 And do you-- did that affect your mind, 1709 01:16:04,300 --> 01:16:05,000 do you think? 1710 01:16:05,100 --> 01:16:06,100 - Huh? 1711 01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:07,200 Did that affect 1712 01:16:07,300 --> 01:16:08,400 your mind in some way, the sonic? 1713 01:16:08,500 --> 01:16:09,700 - It was crushing i my head in. 1714 01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:14,900 They were using sonic pressure continually. 1715 01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:19,000 Then when I had three meetings with Miss Villacorta on it, 1716 01:16:19,100 --> 01:16:21,300 every meeting I had she increased 1717 01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:24,300 the pressure of the volume of the com, 1718 01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,400 increased the harassment on the floor, 1719 01:16:27,500 --> 01:16:31,600 increased the trays being inedible. 1720 01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:33,400 Just increased every bit of my complaints 1721 01:16:33,500 --> 01:16:35,300 and trashed all grievances. 1722 01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,500 They're trying to make it look like I was crazy at all times, 1723 01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:39,800 rig up the room with torture. 1724 01:16:39,900 --> 01:16:41,700 If I said anything about-- their whole-- 1725 01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:44,500 I think their whole plan was to try and make it look like I was 1726 01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,900 totally crazy and so nobody wouldn't believe anything 1727 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:49,500 I had to say about anything. 1728 01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:53,700 And then drive me there, if they could. 1729 01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:54,600 I suffered so bad. 1730 01:16:54,700 --> 01:16:57,200 I was really struggling to survive. 1731 01:16:57,300 --> 01:16:58,700 Had a lot of trays that were attempted 1732 01:16:58,800 --> 01:16:59,500 murder and everything. 1733 01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,100 I had to wash all my food off. 1734 01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:03,600 And then one day, I didn't wash my food off 1735 01:17:03,700 --> 01:17:07,400 and I was sick for three weeks, almost died. 1736 01:17:07,500 --> 01:17:09,600 But you're OK now? 1737 01:17:09,700 --> 01:17:10,400 - I'm OK. 1738 01:17:10,500 --> 01:17:11,200 I'm OK. 1739 01:17:11,300 --> 01:17:12,400 God is going to be there. 1740 01:17:12,500 --> 01:17:13,600 Jesus Christ is going to be there. 1741 01:17:13,700 --> 01:17:16,000 All the angels and everything. 1742 01:17:16,100 --> 01:17:18,300 And, you know, whatever-- whatever's on the beyond. 1743 01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:20,200 I think it's going to be more like "Star Trek," 1744 01:17:20,300 --> 01:17:22,300 beaming me up into a space vehicle, man. 1745 01:17:22,400 --> 01:17:25,000 Then I move on, recolonize to another planet or whatever. 1746 01:17:25,100 --> 01:17:28,300 But it's-- whatever's beyond, I know it's going to be good 1747 01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:31,700 because I didn't do anything as wrong as they said. 1748 01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:33,600 I did the right thing. 1749 01:17:33,700 --> 01:17:35,200 And I saved a lot of people's butts 1750 01:17:35,300 --> 01:17:37,600 from getting hurt and raped and killed, too. 1751 01:17:37,700 --> 01:17:40,500 So are you saying that you killed 1752 01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:42,700 in self-defense or in-- in cold blood? 1753 01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,000 What do-- what do-- because you've changed your story. 1754 01:17:46,100 --> 01:17:47,100 I'm just trying to-- 1755 01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:48,000 - What are you ta-- talking about? 1756 01:17:48,100 --> 01:17:49,200 Changed the story on what? 1757 01:17:49,300 --> 01:17:50,400 No, about whether it 1758 01:17:50,500 --> 01:17:51,500 was self-defense or not. 1759 01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:52,800 - I'm not going to say in-- I'm not 1760 01:17:52,900 --> 01:17:55,400 going to get into depth about my cases, Nick. 1761 01:17:55,500 --> 01:17:56,900 I'm on my way to the chamber. 1762 01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:58,500 Nothing's stopping it. 1763 01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:00,700 You can believe it or you don't have to believe it. 1764 01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:01,600 That's up to you, man. 1765 01:18:01,700 --> 01:18:04,300 Put a big question mark on your film. 1766 01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,100 Just before we came here, 1767 01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:10,100 we met with your-- with your mother, Diane. 1768 01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:11,600 - You met with my brother and Diane? 1769 01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:12,500 I could give a-- 1770 01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:13,000 Your--your mother. 1771 01:18:13,100 --> 01:18:14,300 - Oh. 1772 01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:15,900 My mother, Diane, let me tell you something. 1773 01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:19,200 She plopped me out of her belly, left me with my grandparents, 1774 01:18:19,300 --> 01:18:21,000 and we never knew her. 1775 01:18:21,100 --> 01:18:25,300 So tell that damn whore I could give a fuck if she even had me. 1776 01:18:25,400 --> 01:18:28,600 She had me and left to Texas. 1777 01:18:28,700 --> 01:18:33,200 And my mom, my dad, Barry, Keith, Lori, all of us 1778 01:18:33,300 --> 01:18:35,900 never saw her ever again, accept at funerals. 1779 01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:37,300 My mom's funeral, my dad's funeral, 1780 01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:38,800 and my brother's funeral. 1781 01:18:38,900 --> 01:18:42,700 And if she's at mine, sp-- I'll probably be spitting on her. 1782 01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:43,800 I could care less. 1783 01:18:43,900 --> 01:18:45,300 I don't give a damn about that whore. 1784 01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:46,800 Well, she-- she ask you-- 1785 01:18:46,900 --> 01:18:47,700 - I don't know her! 1786 01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:49,000 I never even knew her. 1787 01:18:49,100 --> 01:18:51,000 She asked you for your forgiveness. 1788 01:18:51,100 --> 01:18:54,300 - She can go to hell. 1789 01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:55,500 She doesn't have any of my forgiveness. 1790 01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:56,900 I don't know-- I don't even know her, 1791 01:18:57,000 --> 01:18:58,400 don't even want to know her. 1792 01:19:04,100 --> 01:19:12,900 My only interview concerns are about cops letting me kill. 1793 01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:14,900 So if you don't ask me about that, 1794 01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,400 I'm going to cut this interview. 1795 01:19:17,500 --> 01:19:19,900 Ask me about the cops. 1796 01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:21,800 What do-- I mean, what more is there 1797 01:19:21,900 --> 01:19:24,800 to-- what more is there to say about the cops? 1798 01:19:24,900 --> 01:19:27,600 What more do you want to say about the cops? 1799 01:19:27,700 --> 01:19:29,000 - A lot of stuff. 1800 01:19:29,100 --> 01:19:31,800 Did you know that they were surveilling me before I killed, 1801 01:19:31,900 --> 01:19:33,400 and that I knew it? 1802 01:19:36,200 --> 01:19:38,200 And that was covered up. 1803 01:19:38,300 --> 01:19:39,900 Did you know there was helicopters dropping down 1804 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:44,200 from the sky, deputy sheriff with decoys picking me up four 1805 01:19:44,300 --> 01:19:46,000 or five months before my arrest? 1806 01:19:46,100 --> 01:19:48,000 It was covered up? 1807 01:19:48,100 --> 01:19:49,200 But nonetheless-- 1808 01:19:49,300 --> 01:19:50,800 - Nobody ever asked me these questions. 1809 01:19:50,900 --> 01:19:52,100 - Whether the cops were following you or not, 1810 01:19:52,100 --> 01:19:53,400 Aileen-- 1811 01:19:53,500 --> 01:19:54,100 - Oh, whether the cops were following me or not, 1812 01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:55,200 Aileen, what? 1813 01:19:55,300 --> 01:19:56,400 OK, let's say-- 1814 01:19:56,500 --> 01:19:57,000 let's say the cops were following you. 1815 01:19:57,100 --> 01:19:58,500 - Yeah. 1816 01:19:58,600 --> 01:19:59,100 Let's say they were following you-- 1817 01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:00,400 - Uh-huh. 1818 01:20:00,500 --> 01:20:01,400 - And they did everything that 1819 01:20:01,500 --> 01:20:02,000 you're-- you're saying they did. 1820 01:20:02,100 --> 01:20:03,400 - Uh-huh. 1821 01:20:03,500 --> 01:20:04,600 Nonetheless, you killed seven men. 1822 01:20:04,700 --> 01:20:05,600 - Yeah, sure did. 1823 01:20:05,700 --> 01:20:06,900 And I'm asking you 1824 01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:08,400 what got you to kill the seven men? 1825 01:20:08,500 --> 01:20:09,800 - And I'm telling you because the cops let me keep killing them, 1826 01:20:09,900 --> 01:20:10,600 Nick. 1827 01:20:10,700 --> 01:20:11,900 Don't you get it? 1828 01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,400 Not everybody is killing seven people, 1829 01:20:14,500 --> 01:20:16,200 so there must have been something in you 1830 01:20:16,300 --> 01:20:17,600 that was getting you to do that. 1831 01:20:17,700 --> 01:20:19,400 - Oh, you are lost, Nick! 1832 01:20:19,500 --> 01:20:20,400 So explain. 1833 01:20:20,500 --> 01:20:21,900 - I was a hitchhiking hooker! 1834 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:23,300 Right. 1835 01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:25,300 - Running into trouble, I shoot-- shoot 1836 01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:29,100 the guy if I ran into trouble. 1837 01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:30,100 Physical trouble. 1838 01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:31,400 The cops knew it. 1839 01:20:31,500 --> 01:20:32,900 When the physical trouble came along, 1840 01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,200 let them-- let her clean the streets 1841 01:20:35,300 --> 01:20:36,500 and then we'll pull her in. 1842 01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:37,500 That's why. 1843 01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:38,700 But how come there 1844 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:39,900 was so much physical trouble and just-- 1845 01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:40,800 because it was all in one year. 1846 01:20:40,900 --> 01:20:41,900 Seven people in one year. 1847 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:43,600 - Oh, well. 1848 01:20:43,700 --> 01:20:44,600 Oh, well. 1849 01:20:44,700 --> 01:20:46,200 But why not say now? 1850 01:20:46,300 --> 01:20:49,600 - Because I'm-- out of retaliation for taking my life 1851 01:20:49,700 --> 01:20:52,900 like this and getting rich off it all these years 1852 01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,700 and-- and total pathological lying. 1853 01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:56,800 Yeah, thanks a lot. 1854 01:20:56,900 --> 01:20:58,900 I lost my fucking life because of it. 1855 01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:00,300 Couldn't even get a fair trial. 1856 01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:03,000 Couldn't even get a fair investigation or nothing. 1857 01:21:03,100 --> 01:21:05,900 Couldn't even have my appeals right. 1858 01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:12,000 You sabotaged my ass, society, and the cops and the system. 1859 01:21:12,100 --> 01:21:15,900 A raped woman got executed and was 1860 01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:17,900 used for books and movies and shit. 1861 01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,500 Ladder climbs, re-election, everything else. 1862 01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,500 I got to flip the finger in all your faces, thanks a lot. 1863 01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:26,800 You're inhuman-- you're an inhumane bunch of fucking 1864 01:21:26,900 --> 01:21:28,400 living bastards and bitches, and you're 1865 01:21:28,500 --> 01:21:30,300 going to get your asses nuked in the end. 1866 01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:32,500 And pretty soon it's coming. 1867 01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,100 2019, Iraq's supposed to hit you anyhow. 1868 01:21:35,100 --> 01:21:37,100 You're all going to get nuked. 1869 01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,300 You don't take fucking human life like this 1870 01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:42,300 and just sabotage it and rip it apart like Jesus on the cross 1871 01:21:42,400 --> 01:21:43,800 and say, thanks a lot for all the fucking 1872 01:21:43,900 --> 01:21:45,700 money I made off of ya. 1873 01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,500 And not care about a human being and the truth being told. 1874 01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,900 Now I know what Jesus was going through. 1875 01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:53,500 I've been trying to tell the truth 1876 01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:57,700 and I keep getting stepped on, concerned about if I was raped, 1877 01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,800 if I-- I'm not giving you m-- book and movie info. 1878 01:22:00,900 --> 01:22:02,800 I'm giving you info for investigations and stuff 1879 01:22:02,900 --> 01:22:04,400 and that's it. 1880 01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,500 We're going to have cut this interview, Nick. 1881 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:15,700 I'm not going to go into anymore detail. 1882 01:22:15,800 --> 01:22:17,100 I'm leaving, I'm glad. 1883 01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:20,600 Thanks a lot society for railroading my ass. 1884 01:22:20,700 --> 01:22:24,400 OK, let's go. 1885 01:22:24,500 --> 01:22:26,000 You dirty son of a bitches. 1886 01:22:26,100 --> 01:22:29,200 Took a raped woman and sent her to-- well, you sent her to God. 1887 01:22:29,300 --> 01:22:31,400 But you're going to get your nuke someday soon. 1888 01:22:36,900 --> 01:22:39,600 Hey, Aileen? 1889 01:22:39,700 --> 01:22:40,700 I'm sorry. 1890 01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:41,300 I'm sorry. 1891 01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:42,200 - Nice try, Nick. 1892 01:22:42,300 --> 01:22:43,300 And thanks a lot. 1893 01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:56,400 It was really pretty incredible 1894 01:22:56,500 --> 01:22:59,300 that Aileen had just sailed through the psychiatric tests 1895 01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:01,400 the day before. 1896 01:23:01,500 --> 01:23:04,300 It makes you wonder what you would have to do to fail. 1897 01:23:08,900 --> 01:23:12,100 Later that night, Dawn met Aileen for her last meal, 1898 01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:14,500 Kentucky Fried Chicken and french fries. 1899 01:23:14,500 --> 01:23:16,300 She was limited to a $20 budget. 1900 01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:24,500 - She's sorry, Nick, that she-- she didn't give you the finger. 1901 01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:26,300 She gave the media the finger, and then 1902 01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:28,000 the attorneys the finger. 1903 01:23:28,100 --> 01:23:30,800 She didn't give you the, uh, finger. 1904 01:23:30,900 --> 01:23:34,300 And she knew if she said much more that it could make 1905 01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,400 a-- make a difference on her execution tomorrow. 1906 01:23:36,500 --> 01:23:39,700 So she just decided not to. 1907 01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:40,900 OK? 1908 01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:42,300 They thought-- she thought they 1909 01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:43,400 might not execute her if she said-- 1910 01:23:43,500 --> 01:23:44,500 - Yeah. 1911 01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,000 She's afraid-- she's afraid of something 1912 01:23:46,100 --> 01:23:49,900 jeopardizing her ex-- you know, execution in the morning. 1913 01:24:12,300 --> 01:24:13,800 Keep going, ma'am! 1914 01:24:13,900 --> 01:24:16,800 Don't stop! 1915 01:24:33,700 --> 01:24:36,400 - At 8 o'clock, time ticking away for serial killer Aileen 1916 01:24:36,500 --> 01:24:37,700 Wuornos. 1917 01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:39,800 - Her date with death set for about 90 minutes from now, 1918 01:24:39,900 --> 01:24:42,200 7's Patrick Fraser is live in Raiford 1919 01:24:42,300 --> 01:24:44,200 as her sentence is about to be carried out. 1920 01:24:44,300 --> 01:24:45,300 Good morning, Patrick. 1921 01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:46,800 - Christina, in an hour and a half 1922 01:24:46,900 --> 01:24:49,500 exactly Aileen Wuornos will be injected with a poison. 1923 01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:52,400 Within about two minutes, she will begin to stop breathing. 1924 01:24:52,500 --> 01:24:55,300 Now, it's tough to say who will be happier that she is dying, 1925 01:24:55,300 --> 01:24:57,100 the families of the victims she brutally murdered 1926 01:24:57,200 --> 01:25:00,800 or Aileen Wuornos. 1927 01:25:00,900 --> 01:25:02,500 - We did wake her up at 5:30. 1928 01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:07,800 She, uh, um, requested a towel and wash cloth 1929 01:25:07,900 --> 01:25:09,600 to wash her face and freshen up. 1930 01:25:09,700 --> 01:25:11,500 And she is very calm this morning. 1931 01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:14,900 Not-- not as talkative as she has been in the past. 1932 01:25:19,300 --> 01:25:21,100 It was hoped Aileen would confess all 1933 01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,900 to a priest before execution, but she remained 1934 01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,200 angry and defiant to the very end. 1935 01:25:26,300 --> 01:25:29,000 Aileen sent the priest packing, and then knelt down 1936 01:25:29,100 --> 01:25:31,100 and prayed for her victims, believing 1937 01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:33,700 they might be too evil to be accepted by God. 1938 01:25:33,800 --> 01:25:35,300 --Talk about dying and-- 1939 01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:37,200 She did talk about dying at all. 1940 01:25:37,300 --> 01:25:38,600 What about remorse? 1941 01:25:38,700 --> 01:25:40,700 And it was ver-- all she wanted to do 1942 01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:42,100 was talk about the police. 1943 01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:44,800 And I--I-- you know, I just formed the impression that here 1944 01:25:44,900 --> 01:25:49,200 was somebody who is-- has obviously lost her mind, 1945 01:25:49,300 --> 01:25:51,500 has totally lost touch with reality, 1946 01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:53,500 and we're executing a person who's mad. 1947 01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:55,600 And I don't really know what kind of message 1948 01:25:55,700 --> 01:25:56,900 that-- that gives. 1949 01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:58,400 I found it very disturbing. 1950 01:26:02,700 --> 01:26:04,000 - We're going to have a briefing. 1951 01:26:04,100 --> 01:26:06,700 We're going to have a briefing then the witnesses. 1952 01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:07,900 - Is everybody ready? 1953 01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:09,400 - Good. 1954 01:26:09,500 --> 01:26:14,800 - At 9:47 this morning, the case of "The State of Florida 1955 01:26:14,900 --> 01:26:17,900 versus Aileen Wuornos" was carried out at Florida State 1956 01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:21,400 Prison in a very professional and humane manner. 1957 01:26:21,500 --> 01:26:25,400 During Aileen Wuornos' brief one-minute final statement, 1958 01:26:25,500 --> 01:26:31,100 she alluded to the fact of-- that she 1959 01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:34,600 would be sailing away with the Rock. 1960 01:26:34,700 --> 01:26:41,400 She'll be back with Jesus Christ like on "Independence Day," 1961 01:26:41,400 --> 01:26:47,500 on June 6, just like the movie, on the big mothership. 1962 01:26:47,600 --> 01:26:48,500 I'll be back. 1963 01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:49,300 I'll be back. 147453

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