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- "1883" is...
- Gritty.
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- Intense.
- Beautiful.
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It's epic.
There's no question about it.
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It's a young woman's
coming of age story.
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- It's massive.
- Mind-boggling.
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It's a journey.
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There's excitement, danger,
unpredictability.
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I don't care if I do
any other show
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for the rest of my life.
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I only do Westerns from now.
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Those are the kind
of stories I like to tell,
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and that's the way
I like to tell them.
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The idea to make "1883"
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actually came from
one of the studio executives
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asking me about the back story
of John Dutton.
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And I explained it to him
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from the origin
of where they came,
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and he thought that that in
and of itself was a TV show.
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I was intrigued by the idea,
and so I wrote some flashbacks
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that people have now seen
on "Yellowstone."
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So Taylor called, he goes,
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"Hey, man,
I want you to be in the show.
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"I want you to be
in 'Yellowstone.'
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Are you're interested in it?"
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And he says, "I got this idea."
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"We're gonna do a flashback,
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"and you're gonna play
the original Dutton
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"who founded
the Yellowstone ranch.
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You're also gonna have
a wife in this."
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He says, "Do you think
Faith would be interested
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in playing your wife
in the flashbacks?"
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If you go in the handbook
of directors,
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you're not supposed to hire
a husband and wife
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to do a movie together.
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It's historically failed
every time,
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but you're also not supposed
to film kids or horses, so.
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We both watch the show,
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so we were excited
to have that invitation
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and didn't know quite
what to expect.
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Then I spoke with Sam Elliott
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about doing something
in the space.
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- I got a call from him.
- "I got something to show you,"
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and he sent me
this series of scripts,
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and there was no saying no,
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because it spoke to me.
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The character spoke to me.
The show speaks to me.
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You know what I'm doing here?
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Looking for a reason.
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You wanna be my reason?
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I had not found
the connective tissue
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between this origin story
of James Dutton
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and this road to redemption
story of Sam Elliott.
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I had not found the bridge.
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And the actress Isabel May
read for me
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for another TV series,
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and it dawned on me
that she was the bridge.
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I called the network,
and I said, I found our lead,
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and I haven't written a word,
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and you're just gonna
have to trust me.
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This is something different
altogether,
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'cause you're seeing it through
the eyes of a young woman.
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And I don't think
that's ever been done before.
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Not in this way.
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We are seeing things through
an 18-year-old girl's eyes.
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And it's a very different
vision of the West
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because you see it,
sort of her innocence
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and her magic that she's able
to show us this world
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that has sex and violence
and despair,
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but also hope.
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To play a character
that narrates her own story
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as well as every
other character story,
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it's extremely humbling.
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Freedom is riding wild
over untamed land
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with no notion any moment exists
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beyond the one you are living.
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It's pretty phenomenal, right?
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If you just sort of look
at a big family tree,
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it takes us back
many generations
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and that survival
and fighting for the land
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and doing what's right
and protecting your family
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are these similar themes
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that were handed down
generation to generation
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until we get the John Dutton.
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- Good shot.
- Yep.
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James is John's great, great,
great grandfather.
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You can see the bloodline.
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You can see the strength
in the bloodline.
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You can see the backbone
that this family has
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and the power that they have,
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and their concern
for each other.
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I believe in you,
and I believe in that boy,
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and I believe in our daughter.
That's all.
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That's why it's so important
to the Dutton family
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present day
to fight for his land.
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And, like, you see
how fierce they are,
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fighting for what's theirs.
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God!
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"1883" is a journey
of an unlikely group of people
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fighting against
the forces of nature,
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the malice of humankind
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in search of change
and a new home.
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It's about freedom.
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It's about the American dream,
which, you know,
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it's become this synonymous
with the idea of freedom,
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about the beauty of it
and the ugliness of it,
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and all the beautiful things
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people will do for their freedom
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and then also all the ugly
things they do for it.
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I can be a good wife.
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Stop. Quit it.
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The thing about "1883,"
it's a tale that's been told.
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It's a tale that
we're all familiar with,
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the Oregon Trail.
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But it's never been done like
Taylor's done it on the page.
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You think we're fools
just because we...
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- You have no horses, no guns.
- You can't ride.
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You are a fucking fool.
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History is doomed
to repeat itself
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because it's never taught
accurately.
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As a storyteller,
my job is to try
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and hold a mirror up to nature
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and reflect back the world
as it was.
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I think that it's truth
through fiction.
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- There's a grittiness to it.
- There's an authenticity to it.
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It feels real.
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The struggles are all real.
The people are all real.
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We're traveling with
a caravan of immigrants.
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It was incredible for me
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because I am
an immigrant myself.
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So I get to tell
a story of someone
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who goes across the world
to follow their dream.
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Most people who went West
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saw ads in newspapers in Poland
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and in Croatia and in Germany
and answered those ads
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and saved up all their money,
sold everything they had,
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and hired a group that would
take them on these wagons.
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In the 1800s,
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there's actually a large flight
of immigrants to America
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because there's overpopulation.
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And there was a high rate
of unemployment.
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It's actually interesting
there has been a Texan...
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A German Texan immigrant
who wrote letters,
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like beautiful letters,
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how beautiful Texas is
and everything,
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and these letters were printed
in a German newspaper.
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And many Germans
at the time read them,
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and that was their decision
to come.
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I think people dreamed of change
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and creating something
and having land
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and being free.
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It's a free country.
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That's a free country.
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That is Comanche land.
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Beyond it is no man's land,
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and that's where we're going.
You ain't free yet.
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And these people
didn't speak English,
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had no notion of
what the Southwest was like
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or the Great Plains were like.
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Had no idea they were
horribly unprepared,
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facing a whole new host
of diseases
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that they've never been
exposed to,
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elements they've never
been exposed to.
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It was an extremely dangerous,
dangerous journey.
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- I'll push her.
- Now get to the back.
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This is what happened.
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This is the journey
that our ancestors took,
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and it was horrifying
and extremely difficult.
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- It's nothing new.
- It's happened back then.
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It's happening now.
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We're all immigrants
in this country,
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and this journey...
it's so compelling,
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and it tells a story that
just... it's gut-wrenching
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but it's truthful.
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And there's a lot of people
in this journey
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that haven't been represented
in other westerns.
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I don't think that there is
a more misrepresented group
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in American cinema
than the Native American.
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And what little I can do
to correct
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that historical perspective
in fiction, I'm gonna do.
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When historians write books
about native people,
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a lot of times
they put us in this box, right?
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And they say, oh,
they were hunter-gatherers,
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or they lived
according to this way.
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It completely removes the idea
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that we were also individuals.
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We had our own
individual tastes,
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our own individual attractions.
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And that's kind of the way
the storytelling has gone
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in Hollywood for a long time.
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One of the most
interesting things
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is the number one cause
of death on these wagon trains
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was people falling off a wagon
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and getting run over.
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The number two cause of death
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was accidental discharge
of firearms.
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Number three, it was drowning
in river crossing.
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Number seven
was Native Americans.
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I think in all the stuff
that we learned growing up
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was the number one fear
was Native Americans.
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And nine times out of ten,
they were trying to help.
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I made the Native American
community a promise
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that I was gonna tell
their story truthfully.
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And so, every opportunity
I get to do it,
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I try to fulfill that promise.
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It's rare to have the kind of
story that we have been handed,
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to be honest with you.
And I think for all of us,
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we feel the responsibility
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to do the best job that we can
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to bring these characters
to life
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the way they were written.
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There's three classic
struggles in these westerns.
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It's man against man,
man against himself,
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man against the environment.
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In those struggles,
we're all in this in spades.
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Let's go.
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"1883" is the origin story
of the Dutton family.
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The Duttons come
from Tennessee originally.
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There's a number of people
who moved West
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out of desperation
from the South.
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And America was unique
in the fact
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that, wherever you were
that you failed,
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you could simply move west
to a new place
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and reinvent yourself
and reinvent your life.
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The main characters
are Tim McGraw,
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who plays obviously
James Dutton.
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We have Faith Hill,
who plays Margaret Dutton.
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We have Isabel May,
who plays Elsa.
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Sam Elliott plays Shea.
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And then La Monica Garrett
plays Thomas.
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Elsa Dutton is a daughter
of the patriarch
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and matriarch
of the Dutton family.
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At this time,
we have two children, Elsa,
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and then we have John.
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I wanted to be John Dutton
'cause he was a boy,
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and he loves the outside.
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I love the outside too.
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Elsa, she's very naive.
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She's experienced
very few things.
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They lived on a little farm.
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She'd seen the same people
her entire life,
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and she was bored.
She was desperate to get out.
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This child is spirited,
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and she's hard-headed
and strong,
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but she's also very smart.
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Elsa is extremely independent
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at a time when a young woman
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is not allowed to be
independent in such a way.
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There are certain things
that we weren't allowed
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to say or voice.
And as the journey continues,
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she sheds that civilized
kind of costume
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and starts to flourish
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because she loves this world
so much
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and what it has to offer.
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There's a fair chance
you're too pretty for me.
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If you are, rather know now
so I don't waste my time.
256
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Maybe you're too pretty
for me.
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Right away, Ennis is just
fully blown away by Elsa...
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Aside from her beauty,
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her wit, her brashness.
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And I think she's the first girl
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that ever makes
Ennis speechless.
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Oh, my gosh, you're forward.
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Part of the storyline is,
you know,
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they were escaping poverty
and looking for a better life.
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And I think there's more to it
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than that in my mind
for James Dutton.
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During the series, you find
out that I was a captain
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in the Civil War
for the Confederacy,
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put in a position
that he didn't want to be in.
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Tim's character was one
of those who was drafted
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and conscripted into the army.
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And then endured, you know,
years in a prison of war camp
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and then came home
to a destroyed homeland
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and had lost faith
in that society.
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He had a lot of pain
and PTSD from that.
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I mean, you see it
in the flashbacks,
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and you see little glimpses
of who James is,
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and you know that he's not
as hard as he comes across.
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He really cares about people,
but you also know that
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his family's the number one
concern that he has.
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He dreamed of a better place.
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He dreamed of a life
where he could dictate
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his own fortune or failure.
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And his family trusted him.
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In my work as I become
more invested in the people
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that we're trying to help
as the journey goes on.
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You know, I'm always
there for my family,
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and I'm always concerned
about my family,
289
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but I think as the show goes on,
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you realize that James cares
more about people
291
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than you think he does.
292
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It's better to double
the latigo with him.
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Girl, I've forgotten more
about horses
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than you'll ever know.
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Margaret, at the age of 17,
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was a nurse in the Civil War.
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That would change your life,
basically.
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It would give you
a perspective of life
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that a 17-year-old in this day
and age could never imagine.
300
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I mean, she is really
this sort of strong-willed,
301
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powerful woman of the West.
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She's raising a young boy
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and a young, you know, daughter
who's becoming a woman.
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And obviously has to manage
all of that while she sort of
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takes this family
on this very treacherous,
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dangerous journey
across America.
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Her heart, she becomes
stronger and stronger
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and stronger
as the journey goes on.
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The moment our first daughter
was born,
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I'm a mom for the rest
of my life, period.
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I mean, that is the first thing.
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That's the last thing.
That's the middle thing.
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That's everything.
My character is most concerned
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about what is this
going to do to my family?
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- Look after your brother.
- I will.
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- "Yes, ma'am."
- I said I will.
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I know what you said.
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What you didn't say
is "Yes, ma'am."
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Women don't say that
to each other.
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- Oh, so you're a woman now?
- Aren't I?
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Elsa has always viewed
her mother
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as restraining her
from, you know,
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being able to fully embrace
all that life has to offer.
324
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And so, therefore, she kinda
has it out for her mom.
325
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Margaret and Elsa have such
a contentious relationship,
326
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as most teenage daughters
and moms do.
327
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Then she sees her mother
in a different light
328
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because there's clearly a past
that she's unaware of.
329
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Her mother can ride
a horse beautifully.
330
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And so she kind of starts
to understand
331
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my mother was something else
in the past,
332
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and she gave that up,
333
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and maybe
she gave that up for me.
334
00:16:14,074 --> 00:16:17,044
That's the biggest part of
James and Elsa's relationship,
335
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that he understands her,
336
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and he understands
the passion that she has.
337
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And not only because
it's a reflection of him,
338
00:16:23,616 --> 00:16:26,419
but it's a reflection
of Margaret as well.
339
00:16:26,486 --> 00:16:28,888
She loves like Margaret.
She fights like me.
340
00:16:35,628 --> 00:16:37,930
Having Sam Elliot come
on board was just incredible
341
00:16:38,065 --> 00:16:40,167
because I think
he embodies everything
342
00:16:40,233 --> 00:16:42,369
that the character of Shea
should be.
343
00:16:42,435 --> 00:16:44,513
When I think of Westerns,
I think him and Clint Eastwood.
344
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Like that's just what it is.
345
00:16:46,073 --> 00:16:47,540
Of course, my wife
gets weak-kneed
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every time she's around him.
I don't know a woman yet
347
00:16:50,177 --> 00:16:52,345
that hasn't been weak-kneed
around Sam Elliott.
348
00:16:52,412 --> 00:16:54,290
And I told my mama that I was
working with Sam Elliott.
349
00:16:54,314 --> 00:16:56,554
She's like, "Oh my God, you're
working with Sam Elliott."
350
00:16:58,785 --> 00:17:01,921
Shea is on a mission
to get back to Oregon.
351
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Then at the same time,
he has something in him
352
00:17:04,357 --> 00:17:08,128
that wants to help these
other people get there as well.
353
00:17:08,195 --> 00:17:11,074
He knows that
it's rife with hardship.
354
00:17:11,098 --> 00:17:12,932
There's no question about that.
355
00:17:12,999 --> 00:17:14,667
And a lot of them
aren't gonna make it,
356
00:17:14,734 --> 00:17:16,303
but he's driven to get those
357
00:17:16,369 --> 00:17:20,507
that are tough enough
to survive to Oregon.
358
00:17:23,510 --> 00:17:26,846
He is a troubled man
for a lot of different reasons.
359
00:17:26,913 --> 00:17:29,116
First off, he was in the war.
360
00:17:29,149 --> 00:17:31,284
You know, he's suffers
from that.
361
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He loses his family,
362
00:17:32,719 --> 00:17:34,787
and I think that's
the biggest burden
363
00:17:34,854 --> 00:17:38,691
that he carries with him
throughout the show.
364
00:17:38,758 --> 00:17:40,727
You know, Taylor talked to me
about Shea rode
365
00:17:40,793 --> 00:17:42,162
with the Buffalo soldiers,
366
00:17:42,229 --> 00:17:45,265
which was an all-Black group
of soldiers.
367
00:17:45,332 --> 00:17:50,337
Shea is very heavy-handed with
everyone other than Thomas.
368
00:17:50,403 --> 00:17:53,640
And... I don't know.
369
00:17:53,706 --> 00:17:55,142
I get very emotional
370
00:17:55,208 --> 00:17:59,412
talking about the relationship
of Shea and Thomas.
371
00:17:59,479 --> 00:18:01,814
They're close.
Theye like brothers.
372
00:18:01,881 --> 00:18:04,217
Thomas's story
is not unfamiliar
373
00:18:04,284 --> 00:18:05,952
to a lot of Black cowboys
back then.
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00:18:06,018 --> 00:18:07,554
He's a former slave.
375
00:18:07,620 --> 00:18:11,258
At 12 years old,
he went inside the house,
376
00:18:11,324 --> 00:18:14,594
and the slave owner was
passed away, natural causes.
377
00:18:14,661 --> 00:18:16,996
So Thomas just gets on a horse
378
00:18:17,063 --> 00:18:21,168
and just goes off
and figures out life.
379
00:18:23,035 --> 00:18:25,338
All that happened in between
then has helped shaped
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00:18:25,405 --> 00:18:27,307
who he was, his integrity.
381
00:18:27,374 --> 00:18:30,377
And he met Shea during the war.
He was a soldier.
382
00:18:30,443 --> 00:18:32,879
There were brothers-in-arms
in the war.
383
00:18:32,945 --> 00:18:35,348
Began fighting together
in the Civil War.
384
00:18:35,415 --> 00:18:38,285
So they've been fighting
together for some 20 years.
385
00:18:38,351 --> 00:18:40,420
And that's how the bond
with them, you know,
386
00:18:40,487 --> 00:18:43,166
became so strong.
It's like an 1800s odd couple.
387
00:18:43,190 --> 00:18:45,492
What in the hell
is a "toilette"?
388
00:18:45,558 --> 00:18:48,695
It's French for shitter.
389
00:18:48,761 --> 00:18:51,174
When did you learn French?
390
00:18:51,198 --> 00:18:53,566
Don't know French. It's just
391
00:18:53,633 --> 00:18:55,101
the French word for shitter.
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00:18:55,202 --> 00:18:58,004
Two men who grow old together
trying to survive
393
00:18:58,070 --> 00:19:00,183
and protect each other.
394
00:19:00,207 --> 00:19:04,611
And so, relationships like
that that have so much history,
395
00:19:04,677 --> 00:19:07,314
they don't have to say too much.
396
00:19:07,380 --> 00:19:11,951
- Thomas, he's a kind person.
- He's an honest person.
397
00:19:12,018 --> 00:19:13,420
And he's a very loyal person.
398
00:19:13,486 --> 00:19:15,955
To me, he's the humanity
of the show.
399
00:19:16,022 --> 00:19:18,057
He's the soul of the show.
400
00:19:18,124 --> 00:19:21,093
And he's the enforcer
of the show.
401
00:19:21,228 --> 00:19:23,896
So it's not a show where it's,
you know, "Yes, sir, no, sir."
402
00:19:23,963 --> 00:19:26,233
Yes... it's, if you look
at him wrong
403
00:19:26,299 --> 00:19:28,435
or if you cross his moral code,
404
00:19:28,501 --> 00:19:29,736
he's gonna kill you.
405
00:19:29,802 --> 00:19:31,238
Get everything that was hers.
406
00:19:31,271 --> 00:19:35,007
- Nothing was hers.
- It was his, and he's a thief.
407
00:19:35,074 --> 00:19:37,043
Get everything that was hers.
408
00:19:37,109 --> 00:19:40,347
It was like it's a different
Black cowboy take.
409
00:19:40,413 --> 00:19:41,681
And I'm so glad Taylor,
410
00:19:41,748 --> 00:19:45,252
you know, he chose me
to bring that to life.
411
00:19:45,318 --> 00:19:49,622
Both Sam and La Monica
are character builders,
412
00:19:49,689 --> 00:19:52,859
and they really want
to understand what's motivated
413
00:19:52,925 --> 00:19:55,562
the actions of the character
in the screenplay.
414
00:19:55,628 --> 00:19:57,464
The show "Lonesome Dove,"
415
00:19:57,530 --> 00:19:59,999
Danny Glover played
the role of Deets.
416
00:20:00,066 --> 00:20:02,735
And Deets, the real-life Deets
417
00:20:02,802 --> 00:20:04,704
on the Goodnight-Loving Trail,
418
00:20:04,771 --> 00:20:06,539
was Bose Ikard.
419
00:20:06,606 --> 00:20:09,542
And I found out he was buried
right there in Weatherford.
420
00:20:09,609 --> 00:20:13,813
So me and a few cast mates,
we went to the cemetery,
421
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,716
and it just... it moved me.
422
00:20:16,783 --> 00:20:20,520
And it's, you know,
423
00:20:20,587 --> 00:20:22,989
it's a story I'm very proud
to be a part,
424
00:20:23,055 --> 00:20:25,157
telling, you know,
a story about Black cowboys.
425
00:20:25,224 --> 00:20:26,993
He goes back to the truth.
426
00:20:27,059 --> 00:20:30,397
The Westerns of post-Civil War
427
00:20:30,463 --> 00:20:34,000
that painted
these matinee idol characters
428
00:20:34,066 --> 00:20:35,868
in these false roles
429
00:20:35,935 --> 00:20:39,238
and painted a really inaccurate
picture of the American West.
430
00:20:39,306 --> 00:20:41,274
To tell the story truthfully
and really show
431
00:20:41,341 --> 00:20:44,644
the American West
or a version of it accurately,
432
00:20:44,711 --> 00:20:47,213
then you have to look
at those relationships,
433
00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,483
and you have to re-examine
a version
434
00:20:50,550 --> 00:20:52,919
that Hollywood portrayed
that was wrong.
435
00:20:59,258 --> 00:21:00,860
You know, I think
my favorite moment
436
00:21:00,927 --> 00:21:04,196
is this incredible scene that
we have Billy Bob Thornton
437
00:21:04,331 --> 00:21:07,467
walking down main street
in the middle of the 1800s.
438
00:21:07,534 --> 00:21:09,545
And I look to the left,
and I see Billy Bob Thornton.
439
00:21:09,569 --> 00:21:12,472
I look a little bit further,
there's Tim McGraw,
440
00:21:12,539 --> 00:21:15,107
Sam Elliott,
and La Monica Garrett,
441
00:21:15,174 --> 00:21:16,752
and I thought this is
a pretty good group
442
00:21:16,776 --> 00:21:18,321
to walk into a bar with.
443
00:21:18,345 --> 00:21:20,513
You know, you saw
"Reservoir Dogs" growing up,
444
00:21:20,580 --> 00:21:22,715
you saw "Tombstone."
They all had that walk
445
00:21:22,782 --> 00:21:25,217
where it was just these bad
dudes going to find trouble.
446
00:21:25,352 --> 00:21:28,355
So I got to play out
those childhood dreams
447
00:21:28,421 --> 00:21:30,690
of walking down that dusty road
448
00:21:30,757 --> 00:21:32,359
to a gunfight in the saloon.
449
00:21:32,392 --> 00:21:34,994
And it just happened to be with
all these icons next to me,
450
00:21:35,061 --> 00:21:37,797
but it was...
yeah, it was amazing.
451
00:21:37,864 --> 00:21:40,800
Billy Bob Thornton,
he's this easy-going guy.
452
00:21:40,867 --> 00:21:41,801
He's kinda unassuming.
453
00:21:41,868 --> 00:21:44,404
We get inside the saloon,
454
00:21:44,471 --> 00:21:48,941
and he just turns it on to this
stone-cold killer and sheriff.
455
00:21:49,008 --> 00:21:50,977
Order this business
on the Trinity.
456
00:21:51,043 --> 00:21:53,446
So I'm supposed to stop
and have a line with Sam
457
00:21:53,513 --> 00:21:55,415
right before the end
of the scene.
458
00:21:55,482 --> 00:21:58,785
And I got so caught up into
watching Billy Bob perform,
459
00:21:58,851 --> 00:22:01,187
I just walked right past Sam,
just blew right by
460
00:22:01,388 --> 00:22:03,390
and didn't say my line,
walked out the door.
461
00:22:03,423 --> 00:22:06,225
And I looked at Sam and goes,
"Sam, I'm sorry.
462
00:22:06,292 --> 00:22:09,261
I know I'm supposed
to give a line, and I forgot."
463
00:22:09,396 --> 00:22:11,063
And he goes, "I noticed."
464
00:22:11,130 --> 00:22:12,565
He's a powerful actor,
Billy Bob,
465
00:22:12,632 --> 00:22:14,401
and when he comes in at work,
466
00:22:14,434 --> 00:22:17,404
it's hard to take your eye
off of him.
467
00:22:17,437 --> 00:22:19,972
Another incredible moment
is this Civil War sequence
468
00:22:20,039 --> 00:22:21,240
that we have.
469
00:22:21,307 --> 00:22:23,009
And out of nowhere,
470
00:22:23,075 --> 00:22:25,011
Tom Hanks just shows up...
471
00:22:25,077 --> 00:22:28,047
Full beard, in character,
and a really powerful scene
472
00:22:28,114 --> 00:22:30,393
between him and Tim McGraw.
473
00:22:30,417 --> 00:22:32,251
It starts with Antietam,
474
00:22:32,318 --> 00:22:34,887
and it starts
with an original picture
475
00:22:34,954 --> 00:22:36,556
from the battleground scene
476
00:22:36,623 --> 00:22:40,026
and morphs out of the original
picture into a live shot.
477
00:22:40,092 --> 00:22:41,594
And everybody's dead.
478
00:22:41,661 --> 00:22:44,096
His whole company
has been wiped out.
479
00:22:45,665 --> 00:22:48,134
Captain.
480
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,571
Tom and I have been friends
for such a long time,
481
00:22:51,638 --> 00:22:54,106
but no matter how good
a friend you are,
482
00:22:54,173 --> 00:22:56,843
when you're sitting there in
a scene that's that emotional,
483
00:22:56,909 --> 00:22:58,545
and then you turn,
484
00:22:58,611 --> 00:23:02,449
and you see Tom Hanks walk up
in a Union uniform,
485
00:23:02,515 --> 00:23:05,051
look at you, and say, "Captain,"
486
00:23:05,117 --> 00:23:06,619
I just fell apart.
487
00:23:06,686 --> 00:23:08,488
And then he sat beside me
as I'm crying,
488
00:23:08,555 --> 00:23:10,022
and he puts his hand
on my shoulder.
489
00:23:10,089 --> 00:23:11,458
Yeah, that's a great scene.
490
00:23:11,524 --> 00:23:14,861
And of course, Tom,
you know, Tom was average.
491
00:23:16,496 --> 00:23:18,731
When actors like this
are willing to come play
492
00:23:18,798 --> 00:23:20,633
for a day or two,
of course now you're working
493
00:23:20,700 --> 00:23:23,470
with some of the greatest
actors who've ever worked.
494
00:23:23,503 --> 00:23:25,037
It's just a privilege.
495
00:23:28,675 --> 00:23:30,342
I've done a lot of shows,
496
00:23:30,477 --> 00:23:31,954
and I've never seen
anything this big.
497
00:23:31,978 --> 00:23:34,914
We did scenes in Fort Worth
with hundreds of extras,
498
00:23:34,981 --> 00:23:37,484
businessmen going to work
in the 1800s,
499
00:23:37,550 --> 00:23:39,085
two bar guys having fight.
500
00:23:39,151 --> 00:23:41,788
We have huge scenes out in
sort of wild open with bandits.
501
00:23:41,854 --> 00:23:43,466
We have everything
that you can imagine.
502
00:23:43,490 --> 00:23:45,391
We have 30-something wagons,
503
00:23:45,492 --> 00:23:47,760
and it takes two to four
horses to pull them.
504
00:23:47,827 --> 00:23:50,730
And I'm running from snow
and rain and schedule
505
00:23:50,797 --> 00:23:52,164
and everything else.
506
00:23:52,231 --> 00:23:53,933
- It's epic.
- There's no question about it.
507
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,902
I'm not gonna compare it
to anything
508
00:23:55,968 --> 00:23:58,037
because I've never done
anything like this.
509
00:24:01,774 --> 00:24:04,176
"Yellowstone,"
at any given time,
510
00:24:04,243 --> 00:24:07,714
we might have 40 horses on set.
On this, at any given time,
511
00:24:07,780 --> 00:24:10,316
we have 180,
and we have a cattle herd.
512
00:24:10,382 --> 00:24:15,822
Ironically, we are having to
actually have a trail drive
513
00:24:15,888 --> 00:24:19,125
in order to film a trail drive.
And it's a challenge.
514
00:24:19,191 --> 00:24:21,561
- We have goats.
- We have chickens.
515
00:24:21,628 --> 00:24:26,332
We have 60 wranglers, cowboys
just working the horses
516
00:24:26,398 --> 00:24:28,034
to make sure everyone is safe.
517
00:24:28,100 --> 00:24:31,804
We have 80 trucks and drivers
to move the whole company.
518
00:24:31,871 --> 00:24:33,740
I mean, this is bigger
than a Beyoncรฉ tour.
519
00:24:33,806 --> 00:24:36,943
This is "Game of Thrones"
on the Prairie.
520
00:24:37,009 --> 00:24:40,580
We began the shooting
in Texas in August.
521
00:24:40,647 --> 00:24:43,950
So it was about 104,
103 degrees.
522
00:24:44,016 --> 00:24:47,887
There was sweat in places
I didn't know sweat can be.
523
00:24:47,954 --> 00:24:49,288
I got wool on,
524
00:24:49,355 --> 00:24:52,324
and wool is not Texas-friendly
in the summertime.
525
00:24:52,391 --> 00:24:55,194
On top of the bandolier,
the belt, the guns,
526
00:24:55,261 --> 00:24:56,896
like, ten-pound leather chaps,
527
00:24:56,963 --> 00:24:59,566
like,
everything is weighed down.
528
00:24:59,599 --> 00:25:02,368
And my horse,
he looks like a utility camp.
529
00:25:02,434 --> 00:25:05,171
First, we were in 98-degree
sweating, hot weather.
530
00:25:05,237 --> 00:25:07,774
And three weeks later, we were
in ten-degree weather.
531
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,009
You know, we were out there
last week in Montana
532
00:25:10,076 --> 00:25:12,311
with snow cap mountains
in the middle of a field.
533
00:25:12,378 --> 00:25:14,847
Me, Sam, and Tim are on top
of our horses on the mountain.
534
00:25:14,914 --> 00:25:17,149
And there was like a blizzard
that came through,
535
00:25:17,216 --> 00:25:18,594
like you couldn't see
your hand in front of you.
536
00:25:18,618 --> 00:25:20,186
The wind was blowing.
537
00:25:20,252 --> 00:25:22,922
There've been times
where I was so cold out here,
538
00:25:22,989 --> 00:25:25,592
I didn't think I could
tough it out too long.
539
00:25:25,625 --> 00:25:27,145
And the thing that
brought me out of it
540
00:25:27,193 --> 00:25:29,896
and continues to bring me out
of it is just looking around
541
00:25:29,962 --> 00:25:32,164
and seeing these mountain
ranges everywhere,
542
00:25:32,231 --> 00:25:33,766
and you think, my God,
543
00:25:33,833 --> 00:25:36,736
how lucky we are to be here
number one, but number two,
544
00:25:36,803 --> 00:25:39,872
how lucky we are
to be here making a film.
545
00:25:39,939 --> 00:25:42,709
You never really know
what you're gonna get
546
00:25:42,775 --> 00:25:44,644
from Mother Earth that day.
547
00:25:44,711 --> 00:25:46,646
And that adds to
the grand scheme
548
00:25:46,713 --> 00:25:48,214
and the look of the show,
549
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,594
but it also adds to the thrill
as an actor
550
00:25:51,618 --> 00:25:55,287
to get to experience
such spontaneity
551
00:25:55,354 --> 00:25:57,356
on set every single day.
552
00:25:57,423 --> 00:26:00,092
The methodology of Taylor
is to make everything
553
00:26:00,159 --> 00:26:04,864
look like a ten-hour movie.
It's so big and so beautiful,
554
00:26:04,931 --> 00:26:07,667
but there's a word
that is so important to him,
555
00:26:07,734 --> 00:26:09,268
and that is "authenticity."
556
00:26:09,335 --> 00:26:11,904
I'm interested in the truth,
even though it's fiction...
557
00:26:11,971 --> 00:26:14,406
As accurately retelling an event
558
00:26:14,473 --> 00:26:16,375
or a world as I possibly can.
559
00:26:16,442 --> 00:26:18,544
Everything is
historically accurate.
560
00:26:18,645 --> 00:26:20,279
Every building, every structure,
561
00:26:20,346 --> 00:26:22,181
every wagon, everything.
562
00:26:22,248 --> 00:26:24,416
We strive to do everything
period correct.
563
00:26:24,483 --> 00:26:27,654
We spent a lot of time
in research together,
564
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:28,921
all the information we can.
565
00:26:28,988 --> 00:26:32,224
So when the camera's tight
on a cast member,
566
00:26:32,291 --> 00:26:34,661
that he has the right equipment
on his horse
567
00:26:34,694 --> 00:26:36,195
for the time period.
568
00:26:36,262 --> 00:26:40,399
I went to school for film
and watched countless movies,
569
00:26:40,466 --> 00:26:42,468
countless westerns
where everything was wrong.
570
00:26:42,534 --> 00:26:45,648
And you know, just me being
an indigenous person,
571
00:26:45,672 --> 00:26:49,241
I would feel kind of ticked off
if I saw,
572
00:26:49,308 --> 00:26:51,510
you know, that we weren't
accurately portrayed.
573
00:26:51,577 --> 00:26:53,780
So when it comes
to finding the props,
574
00:26:53,846 --> 00:26:57,216
I am trying to do my absolute
best on sourcing them from,
575
00:26:57,283 --> 00:27:00,452
you know, the proper places
and making sure that they are,
576
00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:03,022
in fact, you know,
if it's a Lakota bow case
577
00:27:03,089 --> 00:27:05,291
that it's
an actual Lakota bow case.
578
00:27:05,357 --> 00:27:08,427
The language that
the Native Americans speak
579
00:27:08,494 --> 00:27:09,929
has to be authentic.
580
00:27:09,996 --> 00:27:13,165
The beads that they wear
have to be authentic.
581
00:27:13,232 --> 00:27:16,969
The wagons, the horse breeds,
the cattle breeds.
582
00:27:17,036 --> 00:27:21,607
And I think these days
audiences respect it,
583
00:27:21,708 --> 00:27:24,443
actors feel it.
584
00:27:24,510 --> 00:27:28,214
After you've done all your
work on the text and character,
585
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,549
you finally get
to put on the clothes.
586
00:27:30,616 --> 00:27:34,286
And I think that's kind of
your superhero cape in a way.
587
00:27:34,353 --> 00:27:36,823
If you look at the costumes,
we made them all.
588
00:27:36,889 --> 00:27:38,457
We didn't call
some costume house
589
00:27:38,524 --> 00:27:39,935
and get a bunch of "Little
House on the Prairie" stuff.
590
00:27:39,959 --> 00:27:42,995
Every dress, every suit,
every jacket,
591
00:27:43,062 --> 00:27:46,766
everything was custom-made
by Janie and her team.
592
00:27:46,833 --> 00:27:49,335
I am very familiar
with this period
593
00:27:49,401 --> 00:27:52,571
because I designed "Deadwood,"
the series,
594
00:27:52,638 --> 00:27:55,074
which was living in 1876.
595
00:27:55,141 --> 00:27:58,911
And then, I designed the movie,
which was in 1886,
596
00:27:58,978 --> 00:28:01,313
but no two shows are alike.
597
00:28:01,380 --> 00:28:04,350
"1883" is the West.
598
00:28:04,416 --> 00:28:06,218
And during this time, there were
599
00:28:06,285 --> 00:28:08,554
a lot of cowboys in Texas.
600
00:28:08,620 --> 00:28:09,860
And that was one of the aspects
601
00:28:09,889 --> 00:28:12,792
that I love
doing the research for.
602
00:28:12,859 --> 00:28:16,228
When she put this coat on me
the first time, I squealed.
603
00:28:16,295 --> 00:28:18,130
Yeah, I'm in love
with my costume.
604
00:28:18,197 --> 00:28:19,465
I love the costumes,
605
00:28:19,531 --> 00:28:22,168
and the attention to detail
is microscopic.
606
00:28:22,234 --> 00:28:24,370
You see these people,
and then suddenly,
607
00:28:24,436 --> 00:28:28,540
wow, we're really here.
It's like a time machine.
608
00:28:28,607 --> 00:28:31,754
This was a great opportunity
to do a period piece.
609
00:28:31,778 --> 00:28:34,080
And period makeup
is a lot of fun.
610
00:28:34,146 --> 00:28:35,915
You look at a lot
of the old Westerns,
611
00:28:35,982 --> 00:28:37,149
and you see makeup on them.
612
00:28:37,216 --> 00:28:38,851
Taylor definitely
wanted this raw.
613
00:28:38,918 --> 00:28:42,288
He said, "I want dirty sweaty."
614
00:28:42,354 --> 00:28:45,224
There is some makeup
that is being applied to them.
615
00:28:45,291 --> 00:28:46,401
The trick with it
is to make it look
616
00:28:46,425 --> 00:28:48,327
like they're not
wearing any makeup.
617
00:28:48,394 --> 00:28:50,830
So the start of the show,
they're on a train.
618
00:28:50,897 --> 00:28:53,065
And that's the only time
that they're kind of have a,
619
00:28:53,132 --> 00:28:54,801
what I'd call a beauty look
about them.
620
00:28:54,834 --> 00:28:57,837
But once they start getting out
onto the wagon train,
621
00:28:57,904 --> 00:29:00,439
we're gonna try to
keep them dirty looking.
622
00:29:00,506 --> 00:29:02,708
These departments,
from our production designer
623
00:29:02,809 --> 00:29:06,112
to our prop master, everybody,
they had to come together
624
00:29:06,178 --> 00:29:09,081
and build a world
in a very short period of time.
625
00:29:09,148 --> 00:29:11,984
Nothing existed.
We created it all.
626
00:29:12,051 --> 00:29:14,653
We wanted to avoid the clichรฉs
627
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,990
and do things that are
a little bit unusual
628
00:29:18,057 --> 00:29:21,360
that you haven't seen in
so many westerns.
629
00:29:21,427 --> 00:29:22,905
Cary White,
our production designer,
630
00:29:22,929 --> 00:29:24,230
this is his wheelhouse.
631
00:29:24,296 --> 00:29:27,834
And he was able to come up
with some really,
632
00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:30,169
really smart ideas.
633
00:29:30,236 --> 00:29:35,818
The building right next to us
was built in 1939, 1940.
634
00:29:35,842 --> 00:29:39,145
We constructed
a complete faรงade around it
635
00:29:39,211 --> 00:29:43,749
and turned it into
a real building of 1883.
636
00:29:43,850 --> 00:29:47,954
But also put Styrofoam cornices
on a lot of these buildings
637
00:29:48,020 --> 00:29:50,089
up on the top of them
638
00:29:50,156 --> 00:29:52,992
that gives them
a much more Victorian look.
639
00:29:53,059 --> 00:29:54,426
And the whole thing
tied together
640
00:29:54,493 --> 00:29:57,529
when we put the dirt in.
It really just came alive.
641
00:29:57,596 --> 00:29:59,866
They brought in layers
and layers and layers of dirt.
642
00:29:59,899 --> 00:30:03,535
And it's all compacted and then
top dressed appropriately
643
00:30:03,602 --> 00:30:06,138
to make it all safe for
the animals that we have here.
644
00:30:06,205 --> 00:30:09,475
I think we went
a solid two months prep
645
00:30:09,541 --> 00:30:12,444
to shoot for four days
on house half-acre.
646
00:30:12,511 --> 00:30:13,889
I mean, the stuff
that they've done
647
00:30:13,913 --> 00:30:15,781
is just so incredibly epic.
648
00:30:15,848 --> 00:30:19,385
I like to get on set early and
walk around some of these sets
649
00:30:19,451 --> 00:30:21,888
just to put yourself
in that world.
650
00:30:21,954 --> 00:30:25,157
So it makes it easy to find
the emotion in the scene.
651
00:30:25,224 --> 00:30:27,059
This show
would not be possible
652
00:30:27,126 --> 00:30:29,261
without everyone
that you don't see.
653
00:30:29,328 --> 00:30:31,730
It is not a walk in the park.
654
00:30:31,797 --> 00:30:37,136
It is hard work, and it's
655
00:30:37,203 --> 00:30:38,637
fucking awesome.
656
00:30:38,704 --> 00:30:40,239
Can I say that?
657
00:30:40,306 --> 00:30:41,740
- Sure can.
- I just did.
658
00:30:48,114 --> 00:30:50,582
I don't rehearse
with my actors.
659
00:30:50,649 --> 00:30:54,386
There's no way for me to inform
them what this way of life is.
660
00:30:54,453 --> 00:30:55,821
You just have to do it.
661
00:30:55,888 --> 00:30:58,490
I just take them out
and put them to work.
662
00:30:58,557 --> 00:30:59,892
The purpose of cowboy camp
663
00:30:59,959 --> 00:31:02,694
is to get actors comfortable
enough on the horses
664
00:31:02,761 --> 00:31:04,796
that they weren't nervous
when they were riding.
665
00:31:06,332 --> 00:31:08,600
The better I can make them
as a rider,
666
00:31:08,667 --> 00:31:11,203
the more they understand
the thing they're acting out,
667
00:31:11,270 --> 00:31:12,939
the better the performances,
668
00:31:12,972 --> 00:31:15,918
the more authentic the scenes
look, then it looks real.
669
00:31:15,942 --> 00:31:18,544
Cowboy camp is the actors
get here about 8:00,
670
00:31:18,610 --> 00:31:20,012
and then we start
just exposing them
671
00:31:20,079 --> 00:31:23,515
to real-life situations in 1883.
672
00:31:25,351 --> 00:31:27,253
Cowboy camp was probably
673
00:31:27,319 --> 00:31:28,396
the most helpful thing
in the world.
674
00:31:28,420 --> 00:31:30,089
- Good morning, guys.
- Morning.
675
00:31:30,156 --> 00:31:31,590
How's everybody doing?
676
00:31:31,657 --> 00:31:33,657
And we all got to spend
a couple of weeks together,
677
00:31:33,692 --> 00:31:36,762
just riding horses and roping
and herding cattle.
678
00:31:36,828 --> 00:31:38,830
And here comes
Taylor walking up like
679
00:31:38,965 --> 00:31:40,632
he's the first one out there.
680
00:31:40,699 --> 00:31:42,734
And he'll never ask you
to do anything
681
00:31:42,801 --> 00:31:46,338
that he doesn't do
as far as being on a horse.
682
00:31:47,706 --> 00:31:50,042
We take them down
and have them work cattle.
683
00:31:50,109 --> 00:31:52,544
We have them part them out
and sort them.
684
00:31:52,611 --> 00:31:55,814
Roping, horseback riding,
685
00:31:55,881 --> 00:31:58,150
herding cows.
686
00:31:58,217 --> 00:32:00,852
We take them down to the pond
and have them swim horses
687
00:32:00,987 --> 00:32:02,965
so we can prepare them
for the river crossings
688
00:32:02,989 --> 00:32:04,656
that are coming up
in the script.
689
00:32:04,723 --> 00:32:06,625
Most of us learned
how to drive wagons,
690
00:32:06,692 --> 00:32:08,494
which is dangerous, by the way.
691
00:32:09,996 --> 00:32:13,099
Climbing up rocks,
going through lakes and rivers,
692
00:32:13,165 --> 00:32:16,368
and steering cattle.
693
00:32:16,435 --> 00:32:18,270
I'm learning how
to ride a horse,
694
00:32:18,337 --> 00:32:22,008
and I'm swinging
the rope around.
695
00:32:23,609 --> 00:32:27,513
We're shooting guns back
to riding horses, lassoing.
696
00:32:28,347 --> 00:32:31,750
We just played little games
where you put, for example,
697
00:32:31,817 --> 00:32:33,219
an egg on a spoon
698
00:32:33,285 --> 00:32:35,721
and have to ride
straight back and forth.
699
00:32:35,787 --> 00:32:38,357
And whoever does it
the fastest wins.
700
00:32:38,424 --> 00:32:39,925
So it was really fun.
701
00:32:40,026 --> 00:32:41,503
You had to carry the egg
on a spoon,
702
00:32:41,527 --> 00:32:43,795
but I dropped it every time.
703
00:32:43,862 --> 00:32:45,831
So some people were getting
a little crafty,
704
00:32:45,897 --> 00:32:47,599
and when they get
further away from us,
705
00:32:47,666 --> 00:32:50,012
their thumb would ease
over the eggs,
706
00:32:50,036 --> 00:32:53,105
so you really can't see
what's going on and like,
707
00:32:53,172 --> 00:32:55,541
wait a minute, like you got
glue on that or something?
708
00:32:55,607 --> 00:32:57,576
Like, you know, what's going on?
709
00:32:57,643 --> 00:32:59,745
I'd heard Taylor cheated
when he does it.
710
00:32:59,811 --> 00:33:01,813
That he puts his thumb
on the egg.
711
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,050
I'm not saying that that's true.
712
00:33:04,116 --> 00:33:06,585
I'm just saying that I've heard
that Taylor cheated.
713
00:33:06,652 --> 00:33:10,322
There's no proof of cheating,
714
00:33:10,389 --> 00:33:11,857
but it is suspected.
715
00:33:11,923 --> 00:33:13,792
You know, everyone was
very competitive,
716
00:33:13,859 --> 00:33:18,364
but in a supportive way
to somewhat degree.
717
00:33:23,169 --> 00:33:25,604
Everything that we have done,
we've learned how to do it
718
00:33:25,671 --> 00:33:28,207
properly
by the best of the best.
719
00:33:28,274 --> 00:33:30,676
For all the talent,
they're trying to get them
720
00:33:30,742 --> 00:33:33,445
comfortable
with driving and riding.
721
00:33:33,512 --> 00:33:34,913
So then, when they get
on camera,
722
00:33:34,980 --> 00:33:37,116
it becomes
second nature to them.
723
00:33:37,183 --> 00:33:40,286
Everyone will remember
their lines and not panic,
724
00:33:40,352 --> 00:33:42,088
so they look the part.
725
00:33:42,154 --> 00:33:43,622
They feel the part.
726
00:33:43,689 --> 00:33:46,658
They can be the cowboy.
727
00:33:46,725 --> 00:33:48,927
A lot of what we're doing now
is day in and day out,
728
00:33:48,994 --> 00:33:50,862
so this becomes second nature.
729
00:33:50,929 --> 00:33:53,432
So when we're going
through the script,
730
00:33:53,499 --> 00:33:54,833
that's what you could focus on
731
00:33:54,900 --> 00:33:57,269
and not have to worry about
where my hands are,
732
00:33:57,336 --> 00:33:58,604
and where's the gun?
733
00:33:58,670 --> 00:34:00,472
You must know how to do it
the right way.
734
00:34:00,539 --> 00:34:03,509
Otherwise, it's just
kind of watered down,
735
00:34:03,575 --> 00:34:05,544
and it just feels wrong.
736
00:34:07,113 --> 00:34:08,753
Cowboy camp gets you ready
for the show.
737
00:34:08,780 --> 00:34:10,716
You're not showing up
738
00:34:10,782 --> 00:34:11,859
and putting some dirt
and makeup on.
739
00:34:11,883 --> 00:34:13,285
Before you ever do that,
740
00:34:13,352 --> 00:34:16,122
you're falling off of a horse.
Your back is hurting.
741
00:34:17,423 --> 00:34:19,491
As a cowboy in 1883,
742
00:34:19,558 --> 00:34:21,038
you didn't have
nice cushiony saddles.
743
00:34:21,127 --> 00:34:24,296
You know, you didn't have
all the fancy modern equipment
744
00:34:24,363 --> 00:34:25,764
that you have today.
745
00:34:25,831 --> 00:34:28,167
Oh, it's bare-bones.
It's bare knuckles.
746
00:34:28,234 --> 00:34:31,970
This is my first time
on an 1880s saddle.
747
00:34:32,037 --> 00:34:34,306
A hundred years ago,
if you went across country
748
00:34:34,373 --> 00:34:36,342
from New York to California,
749
00:34:36,408 --> 00:34:37,876
this is the way you went.
750
00:34:37,943 --> 00:34:40,146
This is rougher than heck.
751
00:34:40,212 --> 00:34:42,548
I'll tell you it's
a lot harder than it looks.
752
00:34:42,614 --> 00:34:45,351
I mean, you see those wagon
drivers kind of leaning over.
753
00:34:45,417 --> 00:34:48,654
I mean, oh man,
it did a number on your back.
754
00:34:50,156 --> 00:34:52,491
There's an experience of time.
755
00:34:52,558 --> 00:34:53,825
You know, you realize old people
756
00:34:53,892 --> 00:34:56,162
traveled like this 5,000 miles,
757
00:34:56,228 --> 00:34:59,998
and you understand
what a journey like this means.
758
00:35:00,065 --> 00:35:03,068
This training creates
an authentic cowboy
759
00:35:03,169 --> 00:35:05,637
because you're... you know,
the blisters are real.
760
00:35:05,704 --> 00:35:07,206
The cuts are real.
761
00:35:07,273 --> 00:35:10,041
You know, I'm running into
barbed wire fences on my horse.
762
00:35:11,543 --> 00:35:14,813
I've been to like Hell Week
and camps and football,
763
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,682
and this is
a whole different beast.
764
00:35:16,748 --> 00:35:17,983
When they get off at night,
765
00:35:18,049 --> 00:35:19,585
they feel like their legs
are melted.
766
00:35:19,651 --> 00:35:21,220
They got cramps in their thighs.
767
00:35:21,287 --> 00:35:23,222
They got cramps in their calves.
768
00:35:23,289 --> 00:35:25,857
They go, "My butt's sore."
Yeah, probably is.
769
00:35:25,924 --> 00:35:27,993
You ain't never sat
on a saddle that long.
770
00:35:28,059 --> 00:35:29,928
They're grinding us
into the ground.
771
00:35:29,995 --> 00:35:31,795
I mean, by the time
we finished riding horses,
772
00:35:31,830 --> 00:35:33,832
I'm like completely
soaked through.
773
00:35:33,899 --> 00:35:35,501
Like, it's kinda gross.
774
00:35:35,567 --> 00:35:39,070
I feel bad for everyone
that has to smell us.
775
00:35:42,574 --> 00:35:45,477
Cowboy camp was this
incredible bonding experience
776
00:35:45,544 --> 00:35:46,745
between all of the talent.
777
00:35:46,812 --> 00:35:48,092
Everybody gets to
come out there.
778
00:35:48,214 --> 00:35:49,581
They don't know each other.
779
00:35:49,648 --> 00:35:52,318
And they start to sort of work
together and understand
780
00:35:52,384 --> 00:35:53,695
what their characters
are gonna be,
781
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:54,953
where are they going,
782
00:35:55,020 --> 00:35:58,200
and how hard this
is gonna really be.
783
00:35:58,224 --> 00:36:01,427
Cowboy camp is extremely
important for teamwork.
784
00:36:01,493 --> 00:36:03,895
We're all trying
to build chemistry as actors.
785
00:36:03,962 --> 00:36:06,465
And there's nothing
more team-orientated
786
00:36:06,532 --> 00:36:09,468
than getting 28 cattle,
I mean, over hills
787
00:36:09,535 --> 00:36:12,238
and through alleyways
for miles and miles.
788
00:36:12,304 --> 00:36:14,940
So if you're not communicating
to your teammates,
789
00:36:15,006 --> 00:36:17,309
then it's not gonna work.
790
00:36:17,376 --> 00:36:19,478
The only way to survive
at that time
791
00:36:19,545 --> 00:36:21,313
was to be collaborative,
792
00:36:21,380 --> 00:36:23,849
and people would go out of
their way to help one another
793
00:36:23,915 --> 00:36:25,951
without expecting anything.
794
00:36:26,017 --> 00:36:27,595
Well, it's the only way
that you can survive
795
00:36:27,619 --> 00:36:29,054
in an environment like that.
796
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,257
You become a group, you know,
'cause we will be
797
00:36:31,323 --> 00:36:34,426
on this journey for half a year
798
00:36:34,493 --> 00:36:36,262
and go through hell.
799
00:36:41,867 --> 00:36:43,107
We're all doing this together.
800
00:36:43,134 --> 00:36:44,770
So we're all dedicated to it.
801
00:36:44,836 --> 00:36:48,173
And that's been extraordinary
to watch.
802
00:36:48,274 --> 00:36:49,975
It's about to be a family.
803
00:36:50,041 --> 00:36:51,910
It's about to be all of us
against the world.
804
00:36:51,977 --> 00:36:54,112
So against nature, literally.
805
00:36:54,179 --> 00:36:55,547
So we all have
to trust each other.
806
00:36:55,614 --> 00:36:57,916
We have to, you know,
hold each other accountable
807
00:36:57,983 --> 00:36:59,385
and just being out here period,
808
00:36:59,451 --> 00:37:01,287
being on the ranch together
and bonding,
809
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,523
and like... it's great for what
we're about to encounter.
810
00:37:11,930 --> 00:37:13,699
From a production standpoint,
811
00:37:13,765 --> 00:37:17,002
I've never seen
so many different departments
812
00:37:17,068 --> 00:37:20,306
have to coordinate
so many different details.
813
00:37:20,372 --> 00:37:22,450
I have never worked on
a company this big in my life.
814
00:37:22,474 --> 00:37:24,610
Then you got cattle that,
you know,
815
00:37:24,676 --> 00:37:26,177
one day they might be like,
816
00:37:26,312 --> 00:37:27,922
we don't feel like doing
what you tell us to do today.
817
00:37:27,946 --> 00:37:30,316
And they're running
in 50 different directions.
818
00:37:30,349 --> 00:37:32,318
I think
it's borderline miraculous
819
00:37:32,384 --> 00:37:34,586
that the show has come together
820
00:37:34,653 --> 00:37:39,090
because it's taken a lot
of people and a lot of work.
821
00:37:39,157 --> 00:37:41,427
And you know, it's just
impressive what this team
822
00:37:41,493 --> 00:37:42,661
has been able to do.
823
00:37:42,728 --> 00:37:44,763
This is unique
and very special.
824
00:37:44,830 --> 00:37:47,399
And the production
scale is huge.
825
00:37:47,466 --> 00:37:51,236
For me, I don't feel it because
it still feels so personal.
826
00:37:51,337 --> 00:37:53,238
Taylor creates
such an incredible world
827
00:37:53,339 --> 00:37:56,575
with his writing that
it's so easy to get lost in it.
828
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,215
You got it. You got him, son.
829
00:38:04,350 --> 00:38:07,786
My most favorite scene is
830
00:38:07,853 --> 00:38:09,821
a scene with Tim.
831
00:38:09,888 --> 00:38:12,334
I had to hunt with my dad,
832
00:38:12,358 --> 00:38:16,695
and it was blood from the deer.
833
00:38:16,762 --> 00:38:19,898
It's your first kill,
so I got to blood you.
834
00:38:19,965 --> 00:38:22,868
To shoot a deer and do
the whole blooding situation
835
00:38:22,934 --> 00:38:26,348
and explain to him
why we did it and what it means
836
00:38:26,372 --> 00:38:28,173
and how we have to
thank the animal
837
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,676
for giving us
sustenance in life...
838
00:38:30,742 --> 00:38:35,180
To be able to do
that was pretty special for me.
839
00:38:35,246 --> 00:38:39,117
It felt cool.
840
00:38:39,184 --> 00:38:41,363
It felt really cool.
841
00:38:41,387 --> 00:38:43,254
And you can see
the similarities
842
00:38:43,389 --> 00:38:44,523
with "Yellowstone."
843
00:38:44,590 --> 00:38:46,124
There are certainly similarities
844
00:38:46,191 --> 00:38:48,059
to John Dutton and James,
845
00:38:48,126 --> 00:38:50,562
and you can see the tradition
that started it.
846
00:38:50,629 --> 00:38:52,574
I think absolutely fans
will find Easter eggs through
847
00:38:52,598 --> 00:38:54,099
this whole thing,
and I'm excited.
848
00:38:54,165 --> 00:38:55,643
And I think it'll be
a fun journey for people
849
00:38:55,667 --> 00:38:56,902
to pick them out.
850
00:38:56,968 --> 00:38:59,405
Well, I would ask you,
was there ever a time
851
00:38:59,471 --> 00:39:03,274
that you went out on Easter
and found only one Easter egg?
852
00:39:04,910 --> 00:39:06,912
Look, I think the journey
we're about to go on
853
00:39:06,978 --> 00:39:09,214
in the rest of the episodes
is pretty magical, right?
854
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:10,749
We've just gotten started.
855
00:39:10,816 --> 00:39:13,218
I'm thrilled for people
to see Elsa's journey
856
00:39:13,284 --> 00:39:15,921
because it's quite
a dramatic one.
857
00:39:15,987 --> 00:39:19,425
It's not what you would
expect whatsoever.
858
00:39:19,458 --> 00:39:21,560
I think all of us are pushed
859
00:39:21,627 --> 00:39:26,264
to what we think
will be our limit.
860
00:39:26,331 --> 00:39:29,968
We're just on the trail,
861
00:39:30,035 --> 00:39:32,170
and we'll see who survives.
862
00:39:32,237 --> 00:39:37,809
Every episode brings a new
level of excitement and danger,
863
00:39:37,876 --> 00:39:39,445
and unpredictability.
864
00:39:39,511 --> 00:39:42,347
So just find
a huge box of tissues,
865
00:39:42,448 --> 00:39:43,682
nice bucket of popcorn,
866
00:39:43,749 --> 00:39:47,886
the biggest TV you can find,
and enjoy.
867
00:39:47,953 --> 00:39:51,156
I could barely get through it
without just falling apart.
868
00:39:51,222 --> 00:39:54,626
I couldn't do it.
I'm literally snot crying.
869
00:39:54,693 --> 00:39:56,203
I feel that the audience
is going to get
870
00:39:56,227 --> 00:39:57,696
very connected
to these characters,
871
00:39:57,763 --> 00:40:01,132
and heartbreak is coming,
as you would imagine.
872
00:40:01,199 --> 00:40:03,368
And some catharsis is coming,
873
00:40:03,435 --> 00:40:05,471
and some beauty's coming,
874
00:40:05,537 --> 00:40:07,873
and you know, I can't say
much more than that.
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