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I can know you're going you're going home today
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does not mean I'm forcing you to
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to go home right
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so me
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and me having pre knowledge of an action you would do
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does not necessarily I'm forcing you to do the action
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okay I'll give an example
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let's say the the World Cup is going to to come yeah
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let's say I go to the future
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and I know that the Brazil are gonna
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are gonna win the World Cup okay
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and then I go back to the past
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and I'm watching Brazil winning the World Cup
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am I forcing them to win no okay
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so they
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based on the choices that they made during the year
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and during the match and the preparation
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was the result of them winning the World Cup
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my prior knowledge to it
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did not influence their choices
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in a bit do you agree with me yeah okay
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so the creator knows our choices
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but he knows it because we will choose it
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not because he knows it we will choose it
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you see there's a bit intricate
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let me repeat it again
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so the creator knows the things that we will choose
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it's not that we are choosing them
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because the creator knows them
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you understand the difference between the two
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he knows the present the past and the future right yeah
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already our students wouldn't be the creator otherwise
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yeah exactly
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then in that sense then he would know it
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he would know everything
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it's not I agree that he knows everything
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I'm not disagreeing that he knows
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you know the option with you
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so he knows
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he knows whether you will go to Paris or not yeah
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yeah I agree with you so what's the thing
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yeah
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that's the thing but but do you know where you gonna go
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okay so when you make your choices
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you make your choices completely free right
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so it's irrelevant of whether Allah knows or not
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you do not know and because you do not know
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you make your choices on a day to day basis
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just because Allah knows
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does not mean he's forcing you to do anything
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I don't understand why you complaining to knowledge
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does not necessarily
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me forcing you to do a specific thing
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it's not worth it more like if safe example
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because that's what it means not to have free will
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that you forced to do things no
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no no okay
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what I'm trying to get is more like save
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save people of born in certain circumstances okay
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environment is a sure thing that can shape of course
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of course absolutely agree with you yeah
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say if you do couple of sins
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obviously to be happiest feeling to be happy yeah okay
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okay sure
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sure I understand yeah
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do you know to survive yes
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you gonna go are you gonna get punished now
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that's a different question
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are we done with the first question
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we move to the second
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question the simple questions yeah okay
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the second question and the answer is the following
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right we believe the creator
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is having a more important conversation
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aren't you Muslim me muscle
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I am come on my leave
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the guy had to talk about allow you taking him away
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well kind of just yeah
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give us give us two minutes of them
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give us two minutes
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you Somali
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I'll come here no no
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let me answer your question
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let me answer let me answer your question right
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the creator judges us based on on our surroundings
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so the Creator Allah
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tells us that
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you'll only be held accountable for what your capacity
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can do Allah does not ask you to be a superhero
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so for example
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there is a there is a punishment in Islam
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the punishment to suspended at the time of Amur
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because there was a feminine people were stealing
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because they were stealing to survive
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so there was no punishment for them
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and there is no sin for them for doing that
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so in these situations
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in which you forced to do a specific thing
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there's no longer harm on you
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the Francis illamatory to me
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except that which you have to do by necessity
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then it's it's okay
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so there are things that are permissible
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but it's by necessity you have no choice
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then there is no sin on you right
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but the person goes to fire that
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so hellfire is based on him believing a creator
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or not and him believing in a creator or not
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he's born knowing in his heart
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there has to be something
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that brought this universe into existence
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if he then chooses to reject the creator
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this is how the person ends up in hellfire
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now he might have heard the message
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he has a different test on the day of judgment also
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the Quran says Allah is completely just right
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but Allah will show you the signs like today
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Allah is giving you the message
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answering good questions showing you the sign
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Allah says
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he will show you the sign within the horizon
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and within yourself
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until it's clear that this is the truth
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but then it is your choice to accept the truth
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and reject the truth so right now
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is anyone forcing you not to accept Islam
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are the answers I'm giving you reasonable
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yeah how about so I stopping you
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you see where we come from yeah
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we this is your choice
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we don't force Islam on anyone
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we believe Islam is a valuable thing
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you should want to be a Muslim
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not me trying to force you to be you get the point
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so this is our position it's your
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it's completely your choice at all
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so if I have a choice to choose Christianity
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but you would choose Christian if you have a choice
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but that means you're following your desires
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that means you're following your desires
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does Christianity make logical sense
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okay does it
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make sense that God became a baby
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and that he was breastfeeding from his mother
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and he was going to he was changing his nappies
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but the thing is God can do everything no
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no no
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I'm making I'm making a question now
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God is is always so he just doesn't just do anything
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right he does wise choices
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so would the creator become a baby
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and breastfeed from a woman
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come out of a vagina of a woman and be like
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changing his nap is then go to the toilet
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and I guess but this is how it happened in my
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my changes is the truth right
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if if I ask
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can God not
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it's not about God can and or can't
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it's about it's about what he does
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God does what befit befits his majesty
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I'll give you an example can you beat a child
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you can't be the child you can't physically
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I can I can choose to
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but morality
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but you wouldn't do it because of your characteristics
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the creator has characteristics
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he doesn't do specific things
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because it doesn't fit his majesty
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so but he can or he can
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you can't beat the child why would Jesus say that
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he's a son of course
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son of God in the Bible does not mean divine
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doesn't mean divine yeah
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yeah it's like the Bible says
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blessed be the peacemakers for thee
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they shall be called the sons of God
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any peacemakers the son of God
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it means that God takes care of you you know
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when you meet somebody say my son
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does that mean he's an old man to steal my son
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can you bring this or
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that is a metaphorical understanding of the word
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that's why they say the Holy Trinity is like
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do the Trinity says that his actual son
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the Trinity is a begotten son like we have children
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this is a problem with the Trinity
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the Trinity is not in the Bible
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and does not make logical sense
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let me ask you this question
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if I say father and son and Holy Spirit are one yeah
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okay how many how many do we have
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okay so if the father is not the son how many
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they are
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the father is not the son
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and the son is not the Holy Spirit
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that's what the Trinity says
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the father is distinct from the from the from the son
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there's a different person
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right they're the same person
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not then you don't understand the Trinity
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the Trinity is one being three persons
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and it doesn't seem like you understood the Trinity
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okay let me let me ask so water right
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trust me it's not gonna help you
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that allergy water a finish is trying to give you ice
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okay
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can I tell you why that allergy is not gonna help you
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this is called
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this is a Harrison House called modelism
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but you believe that god has different modes
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sometimes he's in the mode of the father
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sometimes he's in the mode of the son
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but that's not what Christians believe
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Christians believe all the time he is the father
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the son and the Holy Spirit
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there is no point in which water is steam
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ice and liquid in the same time
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but the Trinity the father is the father son
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I was raised the same time
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that's why the and he's not gonna have
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he's different he's a
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he's a different dimension
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so now you're running outside yes
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right because he live in the universe
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let me agree with you no
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no let me agree with you
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let me agree with you no
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no no
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I'm just asking does he live in this universe
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in the universe no
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no no
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no no no
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no so in terms of the laws in this universe
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can't be applied to him right
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not the same way applies to us obviously
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but I'm not that's not the point I'm making
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the point I'm making
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where is the Trinity in the Bible to begin with
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you're making a claim or you cannot understand God
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God has to first tell you his eternity
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and then we discuss whether we can understand
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or we cannot understand God right
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where does he say his identity to begin with
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is a Christian is a concept is not even there
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God says he worship me no
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no no
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no no
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no no
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I'm saying the scripture
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there is two people
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where is the Trinity there in the Bible
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from Genesis revelations
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you read the Bible have you read the Bible
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bits and pieces so
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so there is no Trinity there is no Trinity
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there no Trinity in the Bible
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there is no Trinity anywhere in the Bible
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there's no
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any verse that says that there are three in one
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the father son and husband are one
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there's no verse that differentiate between the big
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and the person there's no such thing
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in fact the Bible shows that Jesus is not god
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I'll tell you why if the Father
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Sarahosm faith are one entity
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then they should all have the same knowledge
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if the fully god right
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cause they're all god so Jesus knows everything
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but the Bible shows that Jesus know everything
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Jesus says in Mark 13:32
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no one knows the day and the hour
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not the angels in heaven not the son
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only the father
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how can one person know and another person not know
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when they are the same entity
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how can Jesus say the father is greater than I
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how can Jesus seek help when he's in the cross
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father why have you forsaken me
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the wrong entity when Jesus prays
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why is he praying to himself
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Jesus Christ
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the Trinity does not make the one that
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when I say Christian doesn't make sense
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it is the question that I'm providing for you now
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the concept of the Trinity
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has nothing to do with the Bible
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Bible opposes it completely
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Jesus said to you there is only one true god
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you know who's the one true god is the Father
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Jesus says in John 17 three
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there's only one true god
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the father so Jesus says there is only one true god
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why are people saying there's
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there's more than one
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are you a priest
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oh excellent
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that we have a nice discussion with this guy
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you know okay
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you have a priest here right
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because I don't want you to think
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I don't want you to think that
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maybe you're talking to us
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things that you don't have information
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knowledge about he should have knowledge about this
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because he's trying to be a priest
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can you
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is it okay if I ask you a question
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because I brought you into a conversation
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I apologize right
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can you show us the Trinity in the Bible
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Father Son
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Holy Spirit but that's not what the Trinity is
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yes it is
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can you define the Trinity
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yes if we look at the prophet Isaiah for an example
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in the in the Torah
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look towards the east what do you find
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a woman a woman
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a woman with a woman with child
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I apologize what's your name
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Carl Carl
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Carl my name is Muhammad
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my question to you
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Carl is what is the concept of the Trinity
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can you define the Trinity in human terms
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define the Trinity and understand for us to understand
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I'll tell you and you tell me if I'm wrong
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the charity is three persons
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distinct persons distinct persons in one entity 1 b
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correct where is that concept
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that the three are persons and they are one entity
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in the Bible
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but as I told you
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if you look at if you look at the prophet Isaiah
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look at the show me where where Isaiah
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I know as I have read the Bible
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so what which part was I you know
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I catch it you know I'm a Muslim
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I know I told you I'm a Muslim
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I'm not arguing for years
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no but you don't know me
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why do you assume what I'm doing
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many Muslims are questioned maybe the argue
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I don't argue I just have a nice discussion
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I'm not saying you're on your back
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it's a smart tricky question yeah
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it is a tricky question so
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oh yeah I'll use the Bible though
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this is the Bible if any place we can use
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please show us where is I am waiting
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go ahead yeah
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sure it's only tricky
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it's not a tricky question
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five minutes yeah
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yeah I'll let you go in five minutes
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what's your question no
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I was telling him I was making a claim
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I was making a claim the Trinity is not in the Bible
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I'm not a proper Christian but
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okay so as we know
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can you show us in the Bible
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I was having a discussion with him
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so I'm trying to make a point
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I know the gospel of Luke yeah
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well as the angel said to Gabriel
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Holy Spirit goes through here okay
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so if something goes through you music goes into you
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correct Holy Spirit
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yes okay so no
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no but if it goes through you
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that means there was a point where it was not into you
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and you no begin with
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it's always been us so
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how is it gonna go in you when he was already in you
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I'm a transfiguration
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exactly a configuration it's had people say to us
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are you a Jesus God no
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but that's not my question my question is different now
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no no
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but I'm asking that right now at the particular points
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Jesus became god of the transigration of the mountain
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to prove he was a god and at the same time
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what did Jesus say his god in the Bible
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the gospel of Matthew what did he say
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as Peter was on the mountain
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he said I am God
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that's a lie no I thought you priest
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you should you should you should you know
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one of the commanders is that that shall not lie right
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to claim he's God no
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no no you no
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no you said Jesus said
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I am God and that that term does not exist
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I understand you believe he's God
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I I understand I understand I'll let him go right now
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I'm sorry I apologize
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I I understand that but I'm making a claim
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he didn't say these
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words you made a claim that he did say which is a lie
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but it's okay it's okay I'll just finish with him
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and we'll have a conversation right
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so point is point of chance to make is this
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you can go as well and do your research on this issue
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the Bible is here
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and I offered it till he's gonna become a priest
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cannot show us a Trinity in the Bible
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you can go home do your own research
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you'd realize the concept is not there
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that's why we're saying the message of Islam simple
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there's one creator
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there's prophets and messengers one of them is Jesus
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Moses Noah Prophet Muhammad right
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so make make your research
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and if you have any questions
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come back I'm gonna have a discussion with him
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because he's saying Jesus God
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you've got the magnificent car
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I will keep you more than that
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I already they hate me already now
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sorry
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I'm more interested in the Bible
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okay let's have a discussion I'll come here
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let's have a discussion
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because we are in the middle of the of the
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of the way configuration
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where what about the Transfiguration Peter
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Peter and James and John went on the on the mountain
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right and Jesus
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