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Welcome to "Very Scary People."

I'm Donnie Wahlberg.

Robert Durst is a wealthy heir to a billion-dollar fortune.

He's best known for his connection

to three bizarre and highly publicized incidents ...

his wife's sudden disappearance,

his neighbor's violent death,

and his best friend's murder.

Durst has been described as a man

of stunning contradictions,

who left a world of power and privilege

to live life in the shadows.

His story is complicated, mysterious,

and, at times, truly scary.

Here's part 1 of "Robert Durst,"

"The World's Worst Fugitive."

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[Birds peeping]

Putnal: It's an isolated area

of Galveston.

It was the remnants of maybe an old pier or dock.

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Criss: A man and his son

are fishing.

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And the son sees a bag wash up.

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The son said, "Hey, Dad, look at this."

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Criss: The bag had a torso in it.

[Siren wailing]

Putnal: We sent our dive team out.

We recovered additional bags

that contained the legs and the arms.

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But there's no head.

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If the head was in the water, we would've found it,

and it was not in that water.

It takes a special kind of evil to have it within you,

the ability to actually cut a body up.

I've seen a lot of bodies of people who've been murdered.

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This was really chilling.

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And there's a big fear in the community.

It's like, "Is there somebody out here

who has the entire community in danger?"

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In one of the bags that the body parts were in

was a newspaper and the newspaper had an address.

It immediately led police to the house on Avenue K

and they could figure out pretty quickly who the dead man was.

Birkbeck: The guy that lived there

was Morris Black.

They go searching through Black's apartment.

What we found particularly interesting ...

when we processed the scene for blood,

we found a blood trail leading from Morris Black's apartment

to the apartment across the hall.

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So the police quickly contact the landlord

and they find out that the identity of the person

who rents apartment number 2

is Dorothy Ciner,

who the landlord described

as a particularly unattractive female.

And, oh, by the way, she's a deaf-mute.

Dorothy Ciner indicated she may not be around consistently.

Neighbors had seen the resident from apartment 2

loading garbage bags into his vehicle the previous day.

The police went through the garbage

in the back of the house.

Putnal: We found a .22 handgun.

We believed there was a strong possibility that

that .22 handgun was the murder weapon.

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The police had also found an appointment slip

for an eye doctor.

In the name of Robert Durst.

The police figured out Dorothy Ciner

is actually Robert Durst.

The police staked out the doctor's office

and, when Bob came,

they pulled up behind him and arrested him.

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And in the car was the usual bag of pot

and a gun.

Reporter: Police recovered

a 9-millimeter handgun

and a bow saw from Durst's car.

Inside his apartment, a pair of bloody boots and a knife.

Birkbeck: The floor was all cut up.

There had been blood everywhere.

They take him down to the station

and they charge him with murder

and possession of marijuana.

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He definitely has a sick mind, to be able to dismember a body,

you know, cut off the head and arms and legs.

Putnal: He was just another

suspect to us.

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You know, we had no idea what his background was.

And bail is set at $300,000.

The jailer says something to him like, "You got it?"

And he goes, "Well, not in my pocket."

They don't have a clue who they're dealing with, here.

And he asks to make a phone call,

and he does.

The money was wired.

He was out the next morning.

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We did not really anticipate

that he could make that bond so easily,

particularly in light of how he was living,

where he was living, and how he carried himself.

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Then, people from New York began calling the police department,

to find out if this person was the same Robert Durst related

to the Durst Organization from New York City.

I'm at my desk at The New York Times

and we get a tip

that Bob Durst had been arrested for murder in Galveston, Texas.

And I was shocked.

I thought, "Could this be our Bob Durst?!"

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The same Robert Durst whose wife has been missing for 20 years.

Putnal: Now, we're finding out that he

was masquerading as a woman

and he knows how to chop up a body.

And that was the first time

that the people in Galveston started realizing,

"Oh, there's even more to this story."

When he made bond, he's given a date for his arraignment,

where he has to appear back in court.

Reporter: Today, Durst was due in court,

but didn't show.

We understood who Robert Durst was, by then.

Of course, immediately, our concerns became his ability

to escape and flee anywhere in the world

because of financial means.

Immediately, warrants were issued for his arrest.

We realized that we had a fugitive from justice.

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After his arrest for the murder of Morris Black,

Robert Durst goes on the lam.

He's a fugitive from justice.

He jumps bail.

Robert, if you see this

or hear this, please come home.

You're in a very dangerous situation,

as a fugitive in a massive manhunt

in this country.

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This news is of particular interest

to the friends and family

of Kathie Durst,

Robert Durst's former wife,

a woman no one has seen for more than two decades.

Strauss: Once I heard she disappeared,

everything Kathie ever said came back to me.

I think I knew pretty fast that something bad had happened.

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Bob and Kathie, when they met,

they were completely smitten with each other,

right from the beginning.

She was 19 and she was a dental assistant

and she rented an apartment in a Durst-owned building.

Bagli: And her roommate bumped

into an old friend of Bob's

and he said, "Oh, I'm going to a party.

Would you like to come?"

Everyone thought it was love at first sight.

Mayer: Kathie was strikingly pretty.

Bob was always a little...

distant.

They came from very different worlds.

Bob came from a world of privilege,

and Kathie came from a small town

out in Long Island, blue-collar family.

It was a fast-moving romance.

It was really only the second or third date

when Bob asked her to move to Vermont with him

and open this health food store, All Good Things.

Kathie settled into helping run the store.

They were just having a good time.

People have asked me what did I think of Bob

when I first met him?

I've always thought he was shy

and, many times, he would literally walk away

from a dialogue that was going on and just be gone.

He used to burp or light up a joint in social situations,

seemingly amused by people's reactions.

Kathie's knowledge of who and what Bob was

was very limited.

She just met a guy that she was attracted to

and he asked her to come help run this health food store.

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The Durst family was actually one

of New York City's royal real-estate families.

They owned about a dozen skyscrapers in Manhattan.

And Bob, it was assumed for many years,

was the heir apparent to this vast real-estate empire.

McCormack: Kathie was aware

of his lack of interest

in the New York scene, the business scene.

I don't think he felt that he was

cut out to be a real-estate icon.

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But, after a couple of years in Vermont,

Robert and Kathie return to New York.

McCormack: He was called back

to the family business

and he went kind of reluctantly.

Kathie and Bob got married April 12, 1973.

They keep an apartment in the city,

but they also have a country home

about an hour and a half north.

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A breaking point in the relationship came

later in the '70s, when she got pregnant

and Bob didn't want to have children

and he forced her to have an abortion.

And that devastated her.

I think, at that point,

Kathie embarked on a more independent path.

When she finished nursing school,

she immediately was applying to medical school.

Birkbeck: Which infuriated him, now.

He initially wants her to have a career

and, now she's working towards having a career

and that makes him really angry, now.

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So, very soon, Robert and Kathie's marriage

really began to spiral downwards.

We know that she went once to Jacobi hospital

for treatment, for some bruises.

She didn't tell them specifically that

that was her husband.

Their relationship becomes so toxic

that he just completely cuts her off,

to where she's begging for money from her friends.

As the marriage was disintegrating,

Kathie went out and found a divorce lawyer.

She didn't want to just abandon the marriage

and get out with nothing.

She wasn't that interested in money,

but I think she wanted enough to be able

to finish medical school, maybe open a practice.

I think that Bob was afraid

of what a divorce settlement would mean,

in terms of how much money that he would have to hand over.

Strauss: Kathie went

through Bob's papers.

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She thought she had things on him

that she could use in a divorce.

Bagli: Kathie put together

a little dossier.

We don't know exactly what was in this file,

but, it had something to do, possibly,

with Bob's tax records

or about the Durst Organization.

And then, it got really nasty 'cause then she started

to threaten him and the Durst family.

She had information. She said she sent it

to a certain senator in New York.

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She was terrified of what the repercussions would be.

Kathie's friends told the police that,

in the months before her disappearance,

she had been afraid for her life.

And, in fact, her next-door neighbors

at the apartment in New York City

described a very disturbing incident.

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One night, she crawled over the divider

between their two terraces in her pajamas...

[Banging on window]

...and was banging on the window for them to let her in,

saying, "He's got a gun."

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Katherine stated that Bob had beat her

and that he "wants to kill her.

She further stated that he had a gun

and she was afraid of being shot."

By that time, her marriage was sort of in shambles.

She said to more than one person ...

"If anything ever happens to me, look to Bob."

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Reporter: Galveston police are convinced

58-year-old Robert Durst

killed and dismembered

his 71-year-old neighbor

Morris Black.

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Man: Right now, we have

two outstanding warrants

on Mr. Durst.

Now he's a fugitive from the law

and the question is, "Where is he?"

He had the means to evade detection,

much less prosecution.

He's very good at hiding the truth,

from as early as I got to know him.

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The first time I was aware that there was an issue

was February 4th.

Bob's on the phone and he goes, "Jim, this is Bob.

Have you seen Kathie?"

And I go, "No. What do you mean?"

He goes, "I can't find her."

Kathie Durst is months away from graduating

from medical school and she just disappears.

It wasn't until later that week that Bobby goes

into a New York City police station,

with his dog, and reports Kathie missing.

Bob walked into the 20th Precinct

and threw his weight around by throwing down a magazine

with his father's picture on the cover.

It's "The Men Who Own New York."

Donald Trump, Helmsley ...

there's five men, all power brokers

in real estate in New York ... and Seymour Durst.

That was a way to say, "This is who I am."

It was to give him some kind of authority.

He says, "I haven't seen my wife

and she's been missing for five days

and I'm wondering if maybe something happened to her."

Draper: He didn't seem particularly

alarmed or upset.

He said, instead, that she had probably

gone off to score drugs.

Bobby's story was that they had a fight.

He drove her to the train station,

put her on a train around 9:00,

and that was the last he had seen of her.

At one point, he said he talked to her

after she was back at the apartment.

The police believe that she reached New York City

and that she disappeared from there.

Reporter: Police have been

searching the building,

37 Riverside Drive,

where the Dursts occupied a penthouse.

They say, so far, they have found no evidence of foul play.

When the police went to their apartment building

to try and determine what happened to Kathie,

there was a doorman, who told them

that Kathie returned to the building

and that he took her up in the elevator.

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And then, there was a doorman who claimed

that he saw Kathie leave the building the following morning.

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One other thing was that someone,

identifying themselves as Kathie,

called the dean of students the next day

at her medical school and said, "I'm Kathie Durst.

I don't feel well today and I'm not coming in."

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Good evening. She talked on the telephone with her husband

and with a supervisor at a medical center,

then, she vanished.

No one wanted to listen to us,

that anything that happened to Kathie

happened at their house in South Salem.

We think she never got to New York,

never went to the train.

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Bob did some things that aroused the suspicion

of Kathie's friends and Kathie's family,

and they became sort of amateur sleuths,

looking for clues about what happened.

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At some point, we made a midnight run...

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...and we took his garbage

and we went through it, piece by piece.

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He was throwing away her clothes, her books,

her papers, her makeup.

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There was never a thorough search

of the house in South Salem.

It became clear to the authorities

that Robert Durst was certainly not being very expansive

about what could've happened to his own wife,

but he maintained that he had nothing to do

with her disappearance.

Bagli: However, a lot of the things

that he said

were quickly disproven.

He told the police that he dropped her at the station

and came back to my house for drinks.

He did not come to my house for a drink.

He told police that, well, maybe he didn't have the drink.

Maybe he took the dog for a walk,

found a phone booth in the driving rain,

and called Kathie.

He later admitted that none of those things were true.

One person who did seem to know an awful lot

was this old friend, Susan Berman,

who Robert met at UCLA.

Bobby was the friend of whom she was the most proud,

because of his family, family connections,

who his family was.

Birkbeck: She was the closest person

to Bobby back in 1982.

She knew everything that was going on.

Bagli: When Kathie disappeared,

Susan was his shield, in dealing with the press.

We know this because Susan called a friend,

who recorded the phone call.

This was only eight or nine days after Kathie disappeared.

And she seems to be testing out different theories

about what happened to Kathie.

It's sort of Harrowing to listen to the recording today.

Today, the authorities believe

that the call to Kathie's medical school

was made, not by Kathie,

but by Susan Berman.

When I read that someone, thought to be Kathie,

called the dean of the medical school

and described every malady in her body,

I thought, "who does that?

Susan does that."

She had a relationship with members of the press,

of kind of normalizing Robert Durst.

She claims that Bobby is worried, grief-Stricken,

that Kathie hung around with some bad people,

involved in drugs, and that they needed to be looking there.

In the news today, a reward of $100,000

offered by a husband

to help find his missing wife.

This was headlines in the tabloid newspapers

and there was a lot of attention,

but, slowly, it peters out when there were no leads.

The investigation, for the most part, is actually shut down.

There's very little evidence.

There's no body. There's no crime scene, even.

He's not charged.

It disappeared from the headlines.

It was quiet.

The police may have ignored it, but I didn't forget.

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Welcome back to "Very Scary People."

Family and friends were shocked and worried

when Kathie Durst vanished without a trace.

A cloud of suspicion hung over Robert Durst.

No one ever heard from Kathie after she disappeared,

but police said there was not enough evidence

to prove a crime had been committed.

Eventually, the story faded from the headlines.

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Bagli: Bob, he was working

at the family business

at the time that Kathie vanished.

His brother Douglas had also gone into the family business.

There was friction between him and Douglas

from, probably, the moment they were born.

I don't think they ever trusted each other.

Douglas tells a story that Bob would sometimes come

into his office and pee in the wastebasket

and his behavior was increasingly erratic.

A defining moment for Bob, and for the Durst family,

came in 1950.

Their mother died a very tragic death.

Birkbeck: It was a cold night

and it was a steep roof

and someone saw her out there

and they called the fire department,

and a guy was going up the ladder to try to get her down.

[Siren wailing] Bagli: And his mother

either fell or jumped.

Bob always told his friends that he saw his mother fall,

but other family members would contradict him on that.

His brother Douglas stated that all four of the Durst children

were just whisked out of the house that night

and that none of them actually saw their mother fall.

Bagli: Robert was the oldest.

He was about six, seven years old

and the death of his mother was something

that he carried with him for the rest of his life,

sometimes blaming his father for his mother's problems.

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And it led to a lot of the fighting

between him and his brother.

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At a certain point, his grandfather

encouraged them to go see a psychiatrist.

"It was Dr. Schonfeld's opinion that Robert's hostility

toward his father and his younger brother

was of such intensity that it might constitute

a deconstructive, psychodynamic force

sufficient to produce a personality decomposition."

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Birkbeck: It describes his mental state.

This is at 10 years old.

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Going into the 1980s,

most people assumed that Bob, at some point,

would take over the family business.

But, in 1994, his father and his uncle

selected Douglas to become

the next head of the Durst Organization.

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Bob, according to his friends, was just devastated.

This was a crowning humiliation

for Robert Durst

and he began to pull away

from the family.

Robert has resented them ever since.

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After he left the Durst Organization,

he led a very wandering kind of existence.

Up to that point, he was getting about $1 million a year,

after taxes, from the Durst trust

and Kathie's case was nothing but a memory.

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Birkbeck: He lived in San Francisco,

in a house in a small town way up north in California.

He had also taken out, under different names,

PO boxes.

He's traveling the country,

living amongst the homeless,

stealing people's identification.

He alternated between living a lifestyle of extreme poverty

and a lifestyle of extreme wealth, from day to day.

Then, about Halloween of 2000,

Bob learns of this new investigation

into Kathie's disappearance

by Westchester County District Attorney Jeanine Pirro.

Pirro: I have a lot of questions.

It appears that things are not what they seemed to be in 1982.

A New York state police investigator found that

those eyewitness reports that had seen Kathie Durst

at her apartment in New York were very suspect.

Pirro: The whole essence

of this case was

that Kathleen had boarded a train from Westchester

and arrived in New York City.

Now, we have to question whether or not

she even made it to New York City.

Birkbeck: Bob knew, or he was

kind of surmising,

what was happening here.

There's a new investigation,

and he's gonna come under scrutiny, once again,

so, I don't think there's any question

that Bob was in a panic.

Birkbeck: It's 18 years later, now,

and what he does is he runs.

He goes down to Galveston.

Draper: Galveston is, on the surface,

a beach town.

It's also a place where people go to fall between the cracks.

If you've never been to Galveston,

it's kind of a funky place.

Draper: He moved into Avenue K

and it was nobody's idea of a millionaire's dwelling.

It's like $300 a month.

He's gonna pay it in advance.

He claims to be a woman

named Dorothy Ciner.

A name, by the way, which happened to be the name

of a former high school classmate of Durst's,

whom he had not spoken to in decades.

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The spectacle of Dorothy Ciner was that of, obviously, a man

who was not doing the world's best job

of impersonating a woman.

He wasn't fooling anybody.

Birkbeck: He's got to be

the worst cross-dressers

in cross-dressing history.

They look at him and they know. This is awful.

Bagli: Bob always said that he was

a pretty poor woman.

He'd light a cigarette and his hair would go on fire,

so he dressed as a man most of the time.

He was like a cousin to the mute woman,

who sometimes stayed in the apartment.

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So, he's basically on the run

and kind of waiting out things to see what happens.

He doesn't know if he's going to be charged.

He doesn't know what they've got.

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The piece I did for People

came out in early December of 2000.

It was the first national piece.

I had spent maybe three weeks working

on this particular story and everyone said to me,

"Matt, you gotta find Susan Berman.

She's the key."

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Bobby, in the 1960s, went to UCLA

and he meets Susan

and they just hit it off immediately.

Normal life was not of much interest to Susan.

Everything had to be larger-than-life.

Enter Robert Durst,

So wealthy, his family owned Times Square.

And he finds a kindred spirit in Susan Berman.

She's one of the few people that he actually confides in.

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Silverman: Susan was, in her way,

magnetic.

There was this tremendous energy.

She spoke a mile a minute.

Upon introduction to her, she listed every neurosis she had.

Her father, who was Davie Berman in Las Vegas.

Silverman: "Davie the Jew" Berman, he was

friends with Bugsy Siegel.

She relished it ... "I'm a gangster's daughter!"

It was a wonderful pedigree, where Susan was concerned.

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Bagli: They had something in common.

Bob had lost his mother at a young age.

Susan had lost both her parents at a relatively young age,

so that really bound them tightly together.

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Birkbeck: That friendship continues on

through the '60s.

She moves to New York in the 1970s.

She was working on magazine pieces.

They go to all the big clubs.

And so, they became very, very close.

Susan's career was, at that point, soaring.

Her memoir was published ...

discovering that her father was a gangster.

When did it dawn on you that your father was

just not a nice guy running a business?

Well, I was only 12 when he died, Lee,

and I grew up really believing I was sort of

from the aristocratic Las Vegas family.

Bagli: Susan was, like Bob,

a storyteller

and she liked to embellish stories

to make the stories more interesting, more compelling.

Within a year after Kathie went missing,

Susan Berman moved to Los Angeles

to establish herself as a screenwriter.

But as her life continues on,

she's not a very successful writer

and she declares bankruptcy in the 1990s.

Susan was desperate.

She had no money.

By the time that a new investigation, in 2000,

was looking into the disappearance of Kathie,

Susan was reaching out to Bob.

Letting him know that she was having a hard time

and could he help her out?

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At some point, Susan told Bob, as Bob has related,

that the authorities had reached out to her and that she said,

"Well, I think it's best that I talk to them."

What's key to that is that the police

did not reach out to Susan.

They had yet to call her.

So that was a lie.

But Susan may have had her own reasons for lying.

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Susan, by all accounts, was very loyal to Bob,

but she may have been trying to gin Bob up

so that he would definitely send her the money.

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Susan needed the money to live,

and getting that money any way that was necessary.

By November of 2000,

Bob had sent her two checks,

each for $25,000.

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And she was telling friends that she was very excited

'cause Bobby was coming to visit during the Christmas holidays.

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[Barking] Susan Berman's dogs,

they had gotten out of the house

and were running around the neighborhood.

Bagli: Her neighbors knew that

she would never allow that

and they called the police.

The back door was open.

The front was unlocked.

They find a body on the floor,

shot in the back of the head.

I remember there was a slug, not even a headline,

"Screenwriter dead."

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Susan Berman.

I froze.

Bagli: There were no signs

of forced entry.

The police assumed that Susan knew

the person that she let into the house.

Among Susan's 1,001 phobias

was letting a stranger into her house.

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She would only allow in people she knew, period.

Bagli: She was walking

towards the bedroom

when whoever she let into the house

came right up behind her, put the gun next to her head,

and blew her away.

[Barking]

The thought of Susan in a pool of blood,

how she loved her dogs.

But just Susan. Poor Susan.

[Siren wailing]

Bagli: In the very beginning,

the police were looking at different suspects.

There was speculation that this could've been a mob hit.

There had been all this talk about Susan Berman,

how she was working on some mob book,

and friends would say, "Oh,

she said she was gonna blow the lid off of something."

Silverman: And I just thought, "That's

the most ridiculous thing

I've ever read."

The same day that Susan was killed,

someone had addressed an envelope

to "Beverley Hills Police,"

and they spelled "Beverly" incorrectly.

Birkbeck: It says there's a cadaver

and he writes the address

and the address was Susan Berman's home.

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So whoever wrote it didn't want her body to rot there.

Wanted someone to find it.

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But no one really knows what's going on here.

A lot of people suspect Bobby Durst,

and other people don't.

Jeanine Pirro, the Westchester county DA,

was very suspicious about the timing of Susan Berman's murder.

I think Susan Berman's death was very significant,

in terms of this investigation.

She was someone that we had wanted to speak with.

Bagli: I went out to Los Angeles

to find out what had happened.

I did interview some of Susan's friends and family

and all of them told me the same thing ...

"Bobby had nothing to do with this.

Bobby loved Susie.

Susie loved Bobby."

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Two months after Robert Durst finds out

that New York prosecutors are looking

into the disappearance of his wife Kathie,

Susan Berman turns up dead.

The fact that Susan was going

to be interrogated by the district attorney

would pose a threat to someone who felt

she had knowledge that he or she did not wish to get out there,

because Susan just might spill.

She was a loose cannon.

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So, Bobby's kind of laying low in Galveston.

He maintained that he had nothing to do

with the disappearance and presumed death

of his wife Kathie;

or with the murder of his best friend,

Susan Berman; but he certainly knew

that people suspected him of those things.

And didn't want anyone to know that he was in Galveston.

It was 10 months after Susan Berman's murder

that Robert Durst was charged with the murder of Morris Black

and subsequently jumped bail.

The news is out that he's now on the run.

We'd actually reached out to "America's Most Wanted."

We wanted the Durst case profiled on that show.

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Birkbeck: He walks into a supermarket

and it's on video.

He just shoplifts.

Hammer: He was caught by Wegmans

store personnel,

stealing a sandwich.

They also caught him on camera

taking Band-Aids out of a box

and putting them on himself.

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The total theft was $9.18.

Hammer: Standard procedure ...

he was Patted down.

He had almost $500 in cash in his pocket.

Morganelli: The police thought

he was agitated.

When they asked him why he stole this stuff,

he just said, "Well, I'm just an asshole."

The officer didn't immediately know who he had.

He actually gave his real name, Robert Durst,

but he gave a Social Security number

which was not an accurate number

and then later clarified it

and gave a second Social Security number.

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And then, the police officer turns around and says,

"Have you ever been in Texas?"

And Bobby just stopped talking.

He knew he got caught.

A computer check revealed

that Durst was wanted for murder in Galveston, Texas;

is a suspect in Los Angeles;

and Westchester County, New York.

When a search warrant was executed on his car,

we found $37,000 in cash,

a small amount of marijuana,

and two more handguns.

He had rented a vehicle, pretending to be Morris Black.

Putnal: His head was shaved.

His eyebrows were shaved.

He was clearly an interesting- looking character.

I was shocked to learn that he'd been arrested.

The most wealthy man probably to ever be

in the United States criminal justice system

was arrested for stealing a sandwich and Band-Aids.

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It really just belies or reveals

the true psychology of Robert Durst,

that he is above the law,

he doesn't have to pay for anything,

whether it's a murder charge

or whether it's a chicken sandwich.

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Reporter: Robert Durst says Morris Black

was accidentally killed in self-defense.

If Morris Black was here right now, he'd be saying,

"I'm thinking two words,

and one of them's 'bull'!"

They're saying that Durst shot Morris Black

[Gunshot] dead-center in the back

of his head,

but you can't say that

'cause you don't have the head!

Reporter: A new, stunning revelation.

I stood up and gasped.

I do want to say I am not guilty.

There is no forensic evidence, whatsoever, linking Bob

to Mrs. Durst's disappearance

or Ms. Berman's murder.

Anything he does is pretty much calculated.

That's how cold this man is.

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Robert Durst was sent back to Galveston

to stand trial for the murder of Morris Black.

He agreed to testify before the jury.

The details of what happened to Mr. Black

were violent and disturbing.

The verdict, and another shocking twist,

in part 2 of "Robert Durst."

I'm Donnie Wahlberg.

Thanks for watching. Good night.

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