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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,084 --> 00:00:11,960 [♪♪♪♪♪] 2 00:00:22,103 --> 00:00:30,979 [♪♪♪♪♪] 3 00:00:41,122 --> 00:00:49,998 [♪♪♪♪♪] 4 00:01:00,141 --> 00:01:09,017 [♪♪♪♪♪] 5 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:28,036 [♪♪♪♪♪] 6 00:01:38,179 --> 00:01:47,055 [♪♪♪♪♪] 7 00:01:57,198 --> 00:02:06,074 [♪♪♪♪♪] 8 00:02:10,745 --> 00:02:13,915 CALVIN: Everyone came out like, "This is really good." 9 00:02:13,915 --> 00:02:15,984 My name is Calvin Jung. 10 00:02:15,984 --> 00:02:17,719 I played Steve Minh in RoboCop . 11 00:02:20,922 --> 00:02:22,891 JESSE: It just kinda struck me as being kinda funny. 12 00:02:22,891 --> 00:02:24,125 [laughs] 13 00:02:24,125 --> 00:02:26,427 Jesse Goins, I played Joe Cox. 14 00:02:27,662 --> 00:02:28,596 [chuckles] 15 00:02:29,397 --> 00:02:30,231 [cheers] 16 00:02:30,231 --> 00:02:31,633 I like it! 17 00:02:31,633 --> 00:02:32,934 PAUL MCCRANE: We had a lot of laughs. 18 00:02:34,636 --> 00:02:36,004 We joked around a lot. 19 00:02:36,004 --> 00:02:36,938 EMIL: Think you can outsmart a bullet? 20 00:02:38,072 --> 00:02:39,440 I'm Paul McCrane and I played Emil. 21 00:02:41,242 --> 00:02:43,478 Why don't you let us take over from here, Emil? 22 00:02:43,478 --> 00:02:45,180 RAY: I'm Ray Wise. 23 00:02:45,180 --> 00:02:47,782 I play Leon Nash, number two bad guy on RoboCop . 24 00:02:47,782 --> 00:02:49,350 Yeah. 25 00:02:49,350 --> 00:02:51,019 The original RoboCop . 26 00:02:51,019 --> 00:02:52,420 Well, give the man a hand. 27 00:02:53,688 --> 00:02:54,455 KURTWOOD: Kurtwood Smith. 28 00:02:54,455 --> 00:02:55,924 Yeah! 29 00:02:55,924 --> 00:02:57,358 I'm the man in Old Detroit. 30 00:03:00,295 --> 00:03:02,297 And I played Clarence Boddicker. 31 00:03:02,297 --> 00:03:06,334 CLARENCE: Cops don't like me, so I don't like cops. 32 00:03:11,773 --> 00:03:13,474 When I heard the title, 33 00:03:13,474 --> 00:03:15,843 I thought this is gonna be terrible, horrible, ridiculous. 34 00:03:15,843 --> 00:03:17,145 And I read the script, 35 00:03:17,145 --> 00:03:17,879 and I thought it was really cool. 36 00:03:19,047 --> 00:03:21,950 I had played a number of sort of very sensitive 37 00:03:21,950 --> 00:03:23,618 or fragile characters in my young career. 38 00:03:24,018 --> 00:03:25,486 Hey, could-- could you sign my head? 39 00:03:25,486 --> 00:03:26,487 Yeah, sure. 40 00:03:27,121 --> 00:03:30,291 And I, around that time, told my reps 41 00:03:30,291 --> 00:03:32,193 that I wanted to go up for bad guys. 42 00:03:32,193 --> 00:03:33,494 And they thought I was out of my mind. 43 00:03:33,494 --> 00:03:35,363 [laughs] 44 00:03:35,363 --> 00:03:38,666 PAUL MCCRANE: And so, I just sort of started refusing auditions 45 00:03:38,666 --> 00:03:40,735 for the type of parts that I'd been doing, 46 00:03:40,735 --> 00:03:42,203 just '‘cause I wanted to branch out, 47 00:03:42,203 --> 00:03:43,238 do something different. 48 00:03:43,238 --> 00:03:45,640 You're in the wrong business. 49 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:46,474 PAUL MCCRANE: This is one of the things that they were able to get me 50 00:03:46,474 --> 00:03:47,408 in the room on. 51 00:03:49,244 --> 00:03:51,145 JESSE: I'd been in LA for about seven years 52 00:03:51,145 --> 00:03:52,146 and done some work. 53 00:03:52,146 --> 00:03:53,481 [groans] 54 00:03:53,481 --> 00:03:55,216 What was cool about the audition was 55 00:03:55,216 --> 00:03:57,218 Paul was great, and he said, "You know, just-- 56 00:03:57,218 --> 00:03:58,586 Just give me what you got. 57 00:03:58,586 --> 00:04:00,388 Just give me what you got", you know? 58 00:04:00,388 --> 00:04:02,090 And so-- so we did. 59 00:04:02,090 --> 00:04:03,691 CALVIN: I was brought in to audition. 60 00:04:03,691 --> 00:04:05,260 I met Paul Verhoeven, 61 00:04:05,260 --> 00:04:07,695 and then as I got up and I was leaving, 62 00:04:07,695 --> 00:04:10,865 the casting lady ran out, she says, "Calvin, he loved you, 63 00:04:10,865 --> 00:04:14,235 but he thinks you're too pretty." 64 00:04:14,235 --> 00:04:16,437 Ancient Chinese secrets. 65 00:04:16,437 --> 00:04:19,841 I was like, "What the fuck? Too pretty?" 66 00:04:19,841 --> 00:04:22,577 I said, "No one's ever said I was too pretty." 67 00:04:22,577 --> 00:04:24,579 Unless you want your fuckin' head blown off. 68 00:04:24,579 --> 00:04:26,247 She says, "I'm pullin' for you." 69 00:04:26,247 --> 00:04:28,549 And then um, I think a day later I got the call. 70 00:04:28,549 --> 00:04:29,717 My agent, we got-- I got the gig. 71 00:04:32,186 --> 00:04:34,422 How did I get involved? Well, let's see. 72 00:04:34,422 --> 00:04:36,591 Uh, how many years ago has it been? 73 00:04:39,394 --> 00:04:41,729 You try to interfere with another one of my properties, 74 00:04:41,729 --> 00:04:43,398 and they won't be able to put you guys back together 75 00:04:43,398 --> 00:04:44,132 with Krazy Glue. 76 00:04:45,533 --> 00:04:47,769 RAY: I went in and I read, originally for Murphy. 77 00:04:47,769 --> 00:04:49,070 Double wages for the lead men. 78 00:04:50,104 --> 00:04:52,407 I was all set to play Murphy. 79 00:04:52,407 --> 00:04:54,442 I wanted to play Murphy. 80 00:04:54,442 --> 00:04:56,110 Nice shootin', son. What's your name? 81 00:04:56,811 --> 00:04:58,079 Murphy. 82 00:04:58,079 --> 00:04:59,914 RAY: But, I got the dregs. 83 00:04:59,914 --> 00:05:01,883 I got the part of Leon Nash, 84 00:05:01,883 --> 00:05:04,419 which turned out to be not such a dreg after all. 85 00:05:04,419 --> 00:05:05,153 [chuckles] 86 00:05:07,121 --> 00:05:09,757 I was still kickin' around uh, playin' uh, mostly bad guys 87 00:05:09,757 --> 00:05:11,125 on television. 88 00:05:11,125 --> 00:05:13,061 He's calling up information on the A-team. 89 00:05:13,061 --> 00:05:15,763 KURTWOOD: Bad cops, or bad administrators. 90 00:05:15,763 --> 00:05:17,665 I'm Clarence. 91 00:05:17,665 --> 00:05:18,766 KURTWOOD: Had a really nice role finally in a feature 92 00:05:18,766 --> 00:05:20,068 called "Flashpoint". 93 00:05:20,068 --> 00:05:22,070 Think about it, whiz kid. 94 00:05:22,070 --> 00:05:24,605 KURTWOOD: Turned out that one of the producers of RoboCop , 95 00:05:24,605 --> 00:05:28,076 Arne Schmidt, had been the first AD on that film. 96 00:05:28,076 --> 00:05:30,078 Arne uh, was the one who would actually say, 97 00:05:30,078 --> 00:05:31,179 "Yeah, see this guy." 98 00:05:31,179 --> 00:05:33,114 Well, you heard the man, hotshot. 99 00:05:33,114 --> 00:05:34,949 KURTWOOD: They asked me to audition for two roles. 100 00:05:34,949 --> 00:05:37,418 Clarence, and Dick Jones. 101 00:05:37,418 --> 00:05:39,287 Based on things I'd done in the past, 102 00:05:39,287 --> 00:05:41,923 I assumed they were more serious about the Dick Jones role. 103 00:05:41,923 --> 00:05:45,093 I work for Dick Jones! Dick Jones! 104 00:05:45,093 --> 00:05:47,295 KURTWOOD: But Clarence, of course, was the more fun part. 105 00:05:47,295 --> 00:05:49,664 So, I was really excited when I was Clarence. 106 00:05:49,664 --> 00:05:51,833 CALVIN: We're all theater-trained actors. 107 00:05:51,833 --> 00:05:52,967 Theater-trained actors understand 108 00:05:52,967 --> 00:05:54,769 what ensemble work is, 109 00:05:54,769 --> 00:05:56,337 whereas people who wanna be movie stars, 110 00:05:56,337 --> 00:05:57,939 they really don't get that. 111 00:05:57,939 --> 00:05:59,941 So, that was really easy for all of us. 112 00:05:59,941 --> 00:06:01,676 Because Jon Davison wanted to make sure 113 00:06:01,676 --> 00:06:04,178 we were kinda multicultural, the gang became, you know, 114 00:06:04,178 --> 00:06:06,381 every color under the rainbow. 115 00:06:06,381 --> 00:06:09,150 I think the diversity of our cast, 116 00:06:09,150 --> 00:06:11,986 that transcends into the acting, 117 00:06:11,986 --> 00:06:13,788 leaves a memory for people. 118 00:06:16,290 --> 00:06:19,227 Erica Phillips, she was the uh, costume designer, 119 00:06:19,227 --> 00:06:21,329 and she wanted to know what I wanted to do, 120 00:06:21,329 --> 00:06:24,665 and it ended up that she and I just went shopping. 121 00:06:24,665 --> 00:06:26,801 RAY: I think she took into account the way I looked. 122 00:06:26,801 --> 00:06:28,669 I kinda had kinda the widow's peak look, 123 00:06:28,669 --> 00:06:32,907 and the hawk nose, and um, aquiline, I like to say. 124 00:06:32,907 --> 00:06:34,976 And uh, she saw that look, 125 00:06:34,976 --> 00:06:39,180 and she felt that I would look the best in black. 126 00:06:39,180 --> 00:06:41,149 KURTWOOD: I had a very clear idea in my mind about 127 00:06:41,149 --> 00:06:42,683 what they were like. 128 00:06:42,683 --> 00:06:45,386 That they did have a kind of military look to them, 129 00:06:45,386 --> 00:06:47,688 but with a scarf, you know? 130 00:06:47,688 --> 00:06:50,391 JESSE: We added things to it, you know, like the sneakers, 131 00:06:50,391 --> 00:06:51,926 you know, rather than boots. 132 00:06:51,926 --> 00:06:53,561 So, we all had some input. 133 00:06:53,561 --> 00:06:56,764 The sort of weird beard thing that I did was uh-- 134 00:06:56,764 --> 00:06:58,366 I'll take credit for it, that was mine. 135 00:06:58,366 --> 00:07:01,536 I knew I wanted to do something a little odd hairwise. 136 00:07:01,536 --> 00:07:03,237 So, I walked onto the set with it 137 00:07:03,237 --> 00:07:04,906 and showed it to Paul, and he said, "Yeah, I like that, 138 00:07:04,906 --> 00:07:06,941 so keep it", so I did. 139 00:07:06,941 --> 00:07:08,509 CALVIN: My ex-wife, when we were dating, 140 00:07:08,509 --> 00:07:10,378 she says, "You weren't in RoboCop!" 141 00:07:10,378 --> 00:07:11,946 I go, "Yeah, I was the guy with the bandan--" 142 00:07:11,946 --> 00:07:13,714 "No, that was a Mexican guy!" 143 00:07:13,714 --> 00:07:15,249 I go, "No, it's me." 144 00:07:15,249 --> 00:07:17,518 This is the all, the all-seeing eye. 145 00:07:19,954 --> 00:07:22,023 Leon's glass eye. 146 00:07:22,023 --> 00:07:24,959 My medallion that I wore all through the movie. 147 00:07:24,959 --> 00:07:27,595 So, quite a bit of action. A little shrapnel. 148 00:07:29,263 --> 00:07:31,866 But as you can see, still looks pretty good. 149 00:07:33,734 --> 00:07:34,502 Shit! 150 00:07:34,735 --> 00:07:35,603 [Jesse chuckling] 151 00:07:35,603 --> 00:07:37,205 JESSE: I loved it. 152 00:07:37,205 --> 00:07:38,739 We were in the truck and Kurtwood looks at the money, 153 00:07:38,739 --> 00:07:41,442 he says, "You burned the motherfuckin' money!" 154 00:07:41,442 --> 00:07:43,277 You burned the fuckin' money! 155 00:07:43,277 --> 00:07:45,379 I had to blow the door! What do you want? 156 00:07:45,379 --> 00:07:47,114 It's as good as marked, you asshole! 157 00:07:47,114 --> 00:07:48,282 You stupid, stupid... 158 00:07:48,282 --> 00:07:49,750 Now, that's not the way 159 00:07:49,750 --> 00:07:51,919 that a normal military leader might behave 160 00:07:51,919 --> 00:07:53,721 in that kind of a situation. 161 00:07:53,721 --> 00:07:55,256 And that's '‘cause he's k-- kind of loaded all the time, 162 00:07:55,256 --> 00:07:56,123 you know? 163 00:07:56,757 --> 00:08:00,261 Clarence, he's the kind of guy who could run Old Detroit, 164 00:08:00,261 --> 00:08:02,129 but could never run Detroit. 165 00:08:02,129 --> 00:08:03,498 He didn't go that far. 166 00:08:03,498 --> 00:08:06,767 But within his world, he was the man. 167 00:08:07,301 --> 00:08:09,437 Clarence Boddicker, unofficial crime boss 168 00:08:09,437 --> 00:08:11,005 of Old Detroit, 169 00:08:11,005 --> 00:08:12,573 now sought in connection with the deaths 170 00:08:12,573 --> 00:08:14,442 of 31 police officers. 171 00:08:14,442 --> 00:08:15,610 Today, he's at large. 172 00:08:16,444 --> 00:08:19,580 KURTWOOD: So, we were all on location, in downtown Dallas, 173 00:08:19,580 --> 00:08:21,816 and in the van when we were first shooting it-- 174 00:08:21,816 --> 00:08:23,417 We got a cop on our tail! 175 00:08:23,417 --> 00:08:26,120 KURTWOOD: I wanted to play it kinda full go, 176 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,757 including kicking the back of Paul McCrane's seat. 177 00:08:29,757 --> 00:08:31,459 ...and do it! Just do it! 178 00:08:31,459 --> 00:08:32,860 [laughs] 179 00:08:32,860 --> 00:08:34,495 Paul didn't particularly enjoy that part. 180 00:08:34,495 --> 00:08:36,531 Oh, for God's sake. 181 00:08:36,531 --> 00:08:38,766 We were like little kids playin' in the sandbox. 182 00:08:38,766 --> 00:08:39,367 Yeah! 183 00:08:41,302 --> 00:08:44,438 I did some things in RoboCop that now that I think about it 184 00:08:44,438 --> 00:08:46,007 uh, it was crazy. 185 00:08:46,007 --> 00:08:46,774 Why did I ever do them? 186 00:08:48,042 --> 00:08:49,710 [yells] 187 00:08:49,710 --> 00:08:51,112 RAY: Hangin' out of the back of the van, 188 00:08:51,112 --> 00:08:53,314 with no really safety lines on us. 189 00:08:53,314 --> 00:08:55,449 You know, if I had slipped and fallen out of the back, 190 00:08:55,449 --> 00:08:57,785 I would've been run over by the police car. 191 00:08:57,785 --> 00:09:01,522 Ed and I worked on scenes pretty much on the set. 192 00:09:01,522 --> 00:09:04,659 You know, he was always looking for kind of hipper ways 193 00:09:04,659 --> 00:09:06,193 to say things. 194 00:09:06,193 --> 00:09:08,062 When it came time to throw the guy out... 195 00:09:08,062 --> 00:09:10,331 Leon, pick him up. 196 00:09:10,331 --> 00:09:13,034 ...I thought, "I just throw the guy out, you know? 197 00:09:13,034 --> 00:09:15,136 I should say something to him, you know?" 198 00:09:15,136 --> 00:09:16,404 This guy burned the money. 199 00:09:16,404 --> 00:09:20,308 This guy screwed this whole thing up. 200 00:09:20,308 --> 00:09:23,477 And so, I wanna say something nasty. 201 00:09:23,477 --> 00:09:25,046 I thought, "Well, you know, I'm gonna throw him out. 202 00:09:25,046 --> 00:09:25,980 let's see if he flies." 203 00:09:25,980 --> 00:09:27,481 Can you fly, Bobby? 204 00:09:27,481 --> 00:09:28,349 Clarence, no! 205 00:09:28,983 --> 00:09:31,519 Can you fly, Bobby? 206 00:09:31,519 --> 00:09:33,187 [yells] 207 00:09:35,856 --> 00:09:37,658 RUSSELL: The part wherever they throw the guy 208 00:09:37,658 --> 00:09:40,328 out of the back of the truck on to the car, 209 00:09:40,328 --> 00:09:41,729 and the car spins around, 210 00:09:41,729 --> 00:09:43,664 whenever they threw him out of the car, 211 00:09:43,664 --> 00:09:45,366 that was in Dallas. 212 00:09:45,366 --> 00:09:48,903 When he landed on the car, that was me here in LA. 213 00:09:48,903 --> 00:09:50,404 If you look real close, 214 00:09:50,404 --> 00:09:51,505 you can see that it's me on the hood of the car, 215 00:09:51,505 --> 00:09:52,506 spinnin' around. 216 00:10:03,050 --> 00:10:04,785 I certainly know 217 00:10:04,785 --> 00:10:07,088 from my father being a police officer 218 00:10:07,088 --> 00:10:10,725 that your partner is someone that you're as close to 219 00:10:10,725 --> 00:10:11,892 as your wife. 220 00:10:13,227 --> 00:10:14,028 Well, you call it. 221 00:10:15,730 --> 00:10:17,031 Let's do it. 222 00:10:17,031 --> 00:10:18,599 It's a very intimate relationship. 223 00:10:18,599 --> 00:10:19,967 There's a really strong bond, 224 00:10:19,967 --> 00:10:21,636 you rely on one another for your life. 225 00:10:23,537 --> 00:10:26,540 RAY: It was an old steel mill in uh, Monessen, Pennsylvania. 226 00:10:26,540 --> 00:10:29,610 This was out of work already since years. 227 00:10:29,610 --> 00:10:31,946 But you had the feeling, the workers, 228 00:10:31,946 --> 00:10:33,981 they'd just left yesterday night. 229 00:10:35,149 --> 00:10:36,617 JESSE: Pittsburgh's my home town. 230 00:10:36,617 --> 00:10:38,552 So, my parents could see me work. 231 00:10:38,552 --> 00:10:40,421 They came out to the set, and they watched me. 232 00:10:40,421 --> 00:10:41,155 Of course, they-- 233 00:10:41,555 --> 00:10:44,425 JESSE: My mom got to see me do the pissing scene. 234 00:10:44,425 --> 00:10:46,160 So, I'm like, "Oh, this is great." 235 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,930 My mom was right over there. And this is really artistic. 236 00:10:49,930 --> 00:10:51,632 "Yeah, I'm makin' money, mom. 237 00:10:51,632 --> 00:10:53,100 This is what I went to college for." 238 00:10:53,634 --> 00:10:57,772 Mind if I zip this up? 239 00:10:57,772 --> 00:11:00,574 I love the bad boys. I love them! 240 00:11:00,574 --> 00:11:03,911 You know, they were collectively, I'll just say, 241 00:11:03,911 --> 00:11:07,014 the nicest, really sweet, wonderful guys. 242 00:11:07,014 --> 00:11:08,349 Didn't drink, didn't smoke. 243 00:11:08,349 --> 00:11:09,750 No. 244 00:11:09,750 --> 00:11:11,152 You know, those things will kill you. 245 00:11:11,152 --> 00:11:13,154 And to see them be so mean, and rotten, 246 00:11:13,154 --> 00:11:14,689 and horrible on the movie, 247 00:11:14,689 --> 00:11:16,023 it just kinda tells you how good they all are. 248 00:11:16,824 --> 00:11:17,925 [laughs] 249 00:11:19,226 --> 00:11:21,929 KURTWOOD: We would steal the golf carts from the ADs, you know, 250 00:11:21,929 --> 00:11:24,198 because they had to drive around those things all the time, 251 00:11:24,198 --> 00:11:25,499 come and get us. 252 00:11:25,499 --> 00:11:27,101 Then we would have our own little races around 253 00:11:27,101 --> 00:11:28,602 and stuff. 254 00:11:28,602 --> 00:11:30,004 It was-- we had-- we had a lot of fun there. 255 00:11:30,004 --> 00:11:31,305 I liked all the guys that I was working with. 256 00:11:31,305 --> 00:11:33,507 [laugh together] 257 00:11:33,507 --> 00:11:35,509 PAUL MCCRANE: You know, I think Peter attacks things with a gusto 258 00:11:35,509 --> 00:11:37,945 and with an intensity. 259 00:11:37,945 --> 00:11:39,847 And that was impressive to watch. 260 00:11:39,847 --> 00:11:41,882 MURPHY: Go ahead and do it. 261 00:11:41,882 --> 00:11:45,219 PETER WELLER: Murphy thinks, he believes, he's a faith holder. 262 00:11:45,219 --> 00:11:46,887 He's like a positivist, you know? 263 00:11:46,887 --> 00:11:49,623 He's like the guy you want as the cop. 264 00:11:50,858 --> 00:11:52,793 Dead or alive, you're coming with me. 265 00:11:56,130 --> 00:12:00,034 JON: The experience creating it was just, I think, 266 00:12:00,034 --> 00:12:03,804 a really grueling experience for everybody. 267 00:12:03,804 --> 00:12:06,507 I mean, I don't think anybody would tell you 268 00:12:06,507 --> 00:12:08,309 they had a good time on that picture. 269 00:12:08,976 --> 00:12:11,178 And if they did, they weren't there. 270 00:12:14,815 --> 00:12:18,319 Every Sunday, Bill Bernstein from Orion Pictures 271 00:12:18,319 --> 00:12:22,590 would fly down and say, "You've gotta stop the bleeding. 272 00:12:22,590 --> 00:12:24,325 You're spending too much money. 273 00:12:24,325 --> 00:12:27,328 You just gotta stop the bleeding", you know? 274 00:12:27,328 --> 00:12:29,830 So, finally, I just stopped the bleeding. 275 00:12:29,830 --> 00:12:31,832 I shut down the picture, 276 00:12:31,832 --> 00:12:34,735 without shooting the most crucial scene 277 00:12:34,735 --> 00:12:37,404 in the picture, the death of Murphy, 278 00:12:37,404 --> 00:12:39,206 and we all went back to Los Angeles, 279 00:12:39,206 --> 00:12:41,509 '‘cause I knew that eventually they were gonna have to 280 00:12:41,509 --> 00:12:45,012 give me the money to shoot the death of Murphy. 281 00:12:45,012 --> 00:12:46,547 MURPHY: Lewis, I got a situation here, girl. 282 00:12:48,349 --> 00:12:51,919 We shot that scene of uh, the destruction of Murphy 283 00:12:51,919 --> 00:12:54,588 in a warehouse, in Long Beach California. 284 00:12:54,588 --> 00:12:57,057 Put your hands on your head. Lewis? 285 00:12:57,057 --> 00:12:59,426 I remember we were all there with our guns, 286 00:12:59,426 --> 00:13:02,363 and I had my favorite sawed-off shot gun. 287 00:13:03,264 --> 00:13:05,299 Why don't you let us take over from here, Emil? 288 00:13:10,437 --> 00:13:11,872 The torture murder uh, 289 00:13:11,872 --> 00:13:13,941 we spent a long time choreographing that. 290 00:13:15,943 --> 00:13:17,411 Your ass is mine. 291 00:13:17,411 --> 00:13:19,213 CLARENCE: No. 292 00:13:19,213 --> 00:13:20,281 MICHAEL: Paul executed what we had on the page. 293 00:13:20,281 --> 00:13:21,916 Not yet, it ain't. 294 00:13:21,916 --> 00:13:24,251 PAUL VERHOEVEN: Murphy gets killed after 50 minutes 295 00:13:24,251 --> 00:13:25,586 or something like that. 296 00:13:25,586 --> 00:13:28,656 I thought that this-- this execution of Murphy 297 00:13:28,656 --> 00:13:31,759 had to be extremely powerful, 298 00:13:31,759 --> 00:13:34,461 So that people would never forget Murphy, you know? 299 00:13:34,461 --> 00:13:36,897 Because you have seen him only 50 minutes, 300 00:13:36,897 --> 00:13:38,465 and then basically he wears a mask, you know? 301 00:13:38,465 --> 00:13:41,669 So, that's difficult for an audience. 302 00:13:44,839 --> 00:13:46,507 PETER WELLER: So, you've got a guy. 303 00:13:46,507 --> 00:13:49,143 And the guy is a good cop, and Mr. Nice Guy, 304 00:13:49,143 --> 00:13:52,246 and signs into the new precinct. 305 00:13:52,246 --> 00:13:54,415 Murphy, transferring in from Metro South. 306 00:13:54,415 --> 00:13:56,851 And immediately gets wind of the politics 307 00:13:56,851 --> 00:13:58,419 that are coming down, you know, 308 00:13:58,419 --> 00:14:00,921 or the privatization of the police force. 309 00:14:00,921 --> 00:14:03,023 He came from a part of Detroit, you know? 310 00:14:03,023 --> 00:14:04,592 That didn't have a lot of action 311 00:14:04,592 --> 00:14:06,827 and he was thrown into Old Detroit purposely, 312 00:14:06,827 --> 00:14:08,095 you know? 313 00:14:08,095 --> 00:14:10,030 We work for a living down here, Murphy. 314 00:14:10,030 --> 00:14:11,866 Get your armor and suit up. 315 00:14:11,866 --> 00:14:13,334 PETER WELLER: He was set up by OCP to go into a place 316 00:14:13,334 --> 00:14:15,536 that had a lot of action and a lot of violence. 317 00:14:15,536 --> 00:14:17,504 And subsequently, that's why OCP chose him 318 00:14:17,504 --> 00:14:20,207 to be this guinea pig for RoboCop . 319 00:14:20,207 --> 00:14:22,176 BOB: We've restructured the police department 320 00:14:22,176 --> 00:14:24,612 and placed prime candidates according to risk factor. 321 00:14:24,612 --> 00:14:26,180 PETER WELLER: And he's an innocent. 322 00:14:26,180 --> 00:14:28,349 But nope, the bigger plan has got him. 323 00:14:32,386 --> 00:14:35,456 VOICEOVER ON TV: With 12 years on the force, and 21 commendations, 324 00:14:35,456 --> 00:14:37,057 Murphy was a good cop. 325 00:14:37,057 --> 00:14:40,327 And in 1991, a good cop doesn't die. 326 00:14:43,330 --> 00:14:45,332 PETER WELLER: I maintain you have to have the cruelty, 327 00:14:45,332 --> 00:14:48,035 and the brutality of that-- that scene of Murphy, 328 00:14:48,035 --> 00:14:49,904 in order to, later on in the film, 329 00:14:49,904 --> 00:14:54,141 endow Robo with his um, redemption. 330 00:14:54,141 --> 00:14:56,243 You can't have it unless you really, really 331 00:14:56,243 --> 00:14:59,313 have been upset by what's happened to Murphy. 332 00:14:59,313 --> 00:15:00,047 [groans] 333 00:15:00,047 --> 00:15:02,149 [laugh together] 334 00:15:02,149 --> 00:15:03,651 PETER WELLER: And not just violently so, but emotionally so. 335 00:15:03,651 --> 00:15:05,052 Where's your partner? Where's your partner? 336 00:15:05,052 --> 00:15:07,321 Well, guys, the other one was upstairs. 337 00:15:07,321 --> 00:15:09,256 I was really tryin' to-- tryin' to figure out 338 00:15:09,256 --> 00:15:11,325 what I could do that would be different. 339 00:15:11,325 --> 00:15:13,661 Jesse came up with that laugh he uses. 340 00:15:13,661 --> 00:15:17,831 She was sweet. Mm, mm, mm. 341 00:15:17,831 --> 00:15:18,699 I took her out. 342 00:15:18,699 --> 00:15:21,402 [laughs] 343 00:15:21,402 --> 00:15:22,937 JESSE: And the laugh just came. 344 00:15:22,937 --> 00:15:25,673 I said, "This guy is a real sadistic bastard. 345 00:15:25,673 --> 00:15:27,708 He's a real sadistic, but he enjoys it. 346 00:15:27,708 --> 00:15:30,544 [laugh together] 347 00:15:31,712 --> 00:15:33,514 So, why make him all dark and sadistic, 348 00:15:33,514 --> 00:15:34,848 just make him, you know? 349 00:15:34,848 --> 00:15:37,017 [laughs] 350 00:15:37,017 --> 00:15:38,852 In your face kinda sadistic. 351 00:15:38,852 --> 00:15:40,454 They'll laugh at you, like he's a joker. 352 00:15:40,454 --> 00:15:42,456 [laughs] 353 00:15:42,456 --> 00:15:43,457 Wooh! 354 00:15:43,457 --> 00:15:44,892 [chuckles] 355 00:15:44,892 --> 00:15:46,060 You know, I thought that was great, 356 00:15:46,060 --> 00:15:47,561 you know? 357 00:15:47,561 --> 00:15:48,963 And-- and then as actors, ensemble, you're like, 358 00:15:48,963 --> 00:15:50,764 "Shit, man! Wish I'd thought of that." 359 00:15:50,764 --> 00:15:52,232 CAMERA OPERATOR 1: Mark. 360 00:15:52,232 --> 00:15:52,933 PAUL VERHOEVEN: Action. 361 00:15:52,933 --> 00:15:54,969 [laughs] 362 00:15:54,969 --> 00:15:57,237 Boy, I'll bet that really pisses you off. 363 00:15:57,237 --> 00:15:58,639 [laugh together] 364 00:15:58,639 --> 00:15:59,974 KURTWOOD: So, I had breakfast with Paul 365 00:15:59,974 --> 00:16:00,975 and we talked about the movie a lot. 366 00:16:00,975 --> 00:16:02,643 We talked about Clarence um, 367 00:16:02,643 --> 00:16:04,378 and I told him what I wanted to do with it, 368 00:16:04,378 --> 00:16:06,280 and it really seemed that we were on the same page. 369 00:16:07,047 --> 00:16:10,985 You probably don't think I'm a very nice guy, do you? 370 00:16:10,985 --> 00:16:12,319 Buddy, I think you're slime. 371 00:16:12,319 --> 00:16:13,654 [laugh together] 372 00:16:15,089 --> 00:16:17,992 KURTWOOD: Clarence was not as funny in the original script 373 00:16:17,992 --> 00:16:20,494 and that was something that I wanted to add. 374 00:16:20,494 --> 00:16:23,597 If we can give this character a dark sense of humor, 375 00:16:23,597 --> 00:16:25,566 it can work in a variety of ways. 376 00:16:25,566 --> 00:16:30,137 One is funny, and two is that when, you know, 377 00:16:30,137 --> 00:16:35,509 something chilling about really sadistic sort of people 378 00:16:35,509 --> 00:16:38,412 and the kind of sense of humor that they might have. 379 00:16:38,412 --> 00:16:41,015 You see, I got this problem. 380 00:16:41,015 --> 00:16:46,320 Cops don't like me, so I don't much like cops. 381 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,255 I loved Clarence's thing with the little gun. 382 00:16:48,255 --> 00:16:49,089 I don't-- 383 00:16:49,089 --> 00:16:51,859 [mimicking whirring] 384 00:16:51,859 --> 00:16:54,495 [laugh together] 385 00:16:54,495 --> 00:16:57,364 [mimicking whirring] 386 00:16:58,866 --> 00:16:59,767 We're like, dude. 387 00:16:59,767 --> 00:17:01,635 [laughs] 388 00:17:01,635 --> 00:17:02,970 That's great! 389 00:17:02,970 --> 00:17:03,704 [mimics whirring] 390 00:17:03,704 --> 00:17:06,140 [mimics gunshot] 391 00:17:06,140 --> 00:17:09,009 [laugh together] 392 00:17:11,845 --> 00:17:12,679 PAUL VERHOEVEN: Action. 393 00:17:19,153 --> 00:17:20,320 FRANK: A violent film like that. 394 00:17:24,224 --> 00:17:25,959 A guy blows off a guy's hand and he goes... 395 00:17:25,959 --> 00:17:27,628 Well, give the man a hand! 396 00:17:27,628 --> 00:17:28,562 Give him a hand. 397 00:17:28,562 --> 00:17:29,897 [laugh together] 398 00:17:29,897 --> 00:17:31,198 He's all yours. 399 00:17:31,198 --> 00:17:33,734 I think it's vintage Paul Verhoeven. 400 00:17:33,734 --> 00:17:35,002 PAUL VERHOEVEN: Go forward up. 401 00:17:35,002 --> 00:17:35,969 JOE: Alright, alright, look out. 402 00:17:35,969 --> 00:17:37,204 [Joe laughing] 403 00:17:37,204 --> 00:17:38,305 PAUL VERHOEVEN: [indistinct speech] 404 00:17:38,305 --> 00:17:39,206 [grunts] 405 00:17:39,206 --> 00:17:40,641 PAUL VERHOEVEN: Cut. 406 00:17:40,641 --> 00:17:43,744 Paul grew up in World War II, you know, 407 00:17:43,744 --> 00:17:46,246 where he saw real violence every day. 408 00:17:48,682 --> 00:17:51,518 During World War II, when he was living in Hague, 409 00:17:51,518 --> 00:17:54,988 there were bomb runs by British bombers all the time. 410 00:17:54,988 --> 00:17:57,157 This was when the Nazis were occupying Hague. 411 00:17:57,157 --> 00:17:59,026 So, he grew up under a fascist rule. 412 00:17:59,026 --> 00:18:01,528 And he's a young boy, he remembers this quite vividly. 413 00:18:01,528 --> 00:18:04,565 And he told me about one day his dad taking him to school, 414 00:18:04,565 --> 00:18:05,899 and the night before, 415 00:18:05,899 --> 00:18:07,534 a British bomber had been shot down, 416 00:18:07,534 --> 00:18:08,769 and there were body parts 417 00:18:08,769 --> 00:18:10,771 all lying in the street everywhere, 418 00:18:10,771 --> 00:18:14,241 and German soldiers were going around with steel pales, 419 00:18:14,241 --> 00:18:16,110 and just throwing body parts out. 420 00:18:16,110 --> 00:18:18,045 And Paul's father said, "Don't look." 421 00:18:18,045 --> 00:18:22,015 And Paul, being six, seven, had no sense of perspective. 422 00:18:22,015 --> 00:18:23,917 He was taking cues from the adults. 423 00:18:23,917 --> 00:18:25,352 But the people around him were acting 424 00:18:25,352 --> 00:18:27,221 like they were just cleaning the streets up. 425 00:18:27,221 --> 00:18:28,522 And Paul said to me, 426 00:18:28,522 --> 00:18:29,923 "The thought went through my mind, 427 00:18:29,923 --> 00:18:31,258 '‘Oh, that's what people look like! 428 00:18:31,258 --> 00:18:32,693 Oh, look at that. 429 00:18:32,693 --> 00:18:33,894 That's what a severed hand looks like.'" 430 00:18:33,894 --> 00:18:35,629 So, it was this certain detachment, 431 00:18:35,629 --> 00:18:38,265 because there was no emotional connection, right? 432 00:18:38,265 --> 00:18:39,299 '‘Cause you're too young. 433 00:18:40,367 --> 00:18:43,103 I think that it shaped his worldview. 434 00:18:43,103 --> 00:18:45,072 I shot the-- the-- the killing of Murphy 435 00:18:45,072 --> 00:18:47,207 in the mi-- most gruesome way. 436 00:18:47,207 --> 00:18:49,309 JOE: ...man. Pretty boy! Hey, come on here. 437 00:18:49,309 --> 00:18:51,712 [laugh together] 438 00:18:51,712 --> 00:18:53,247 [Joe yells] 439 00:18:53,247 --> 00:18:55,115 And-- and for me, that was really the crucifixion. 440 00:18:55,115 --> 00:18:58,051 [yells] 441 00:19:02,789 --> 00:19:05,125 PAUL MCCRANE: I think Paul was tryin' to make a point with it 442 00:19:05,125 --> 00:19:07,261 about violence becoming entertainment. 443 00:19:07,261 --> 00:19:11,265 It wasn't just meant to be a splasher, slasher movie 444 00:19:11,265 --> 00:19:12,633 in any sense. 445 00:19:12,633 --> 00:19:13,834 I think he exaggerated the violence 446 00:19:13,834 --> 00:19:16,136 in order to make a point about violence, 447 00:19:16,136 --> 00:19:18,438 and our being endured to violence 448 00:19:18,438 --> 00:19:20,240 in popular entertainment. 449 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,342 Bein' part of a gang, and bein' a bad ass, 450 00:19:22,342 --> 00:19:24,144 I mean, you know, h-- h-- how many kids wanna play that? 451 00:19:24,144 --> 00:19:25,479 It's pretty easy. 452 00:19:25,479 --> 00:19:28,148 We were enjoying blowin' at just, 453 00:19:28,148 --> 00:19:30,117 "Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam." 454 00:19:30,117 --> 00:19:30,951 It was great. 455 00:19:30,951 --> 00:19:33,587 [indistinct speech] 456 00:19:33,587 --> 00:19:35,956 [screams] 457 00:19:35,956 --> 00:19:38,025 When I ran out of-- out of ammo, I'm like, "Oh, shit, 458 00:19:38,025 --> 00:19:39,026 I'm out of ammo!" 459 00:19:39,026 --> 00:19:41,161 Oh, shit, I'm out of ammo! 460 00:19:41,161 --> 00:19:42,696 That's not in the script. 461 00:19:42,696 --> 00:19:44,431 Hey, Clarence, he's still alive. 462 00:19:44,431 --> 00:19:46,700 [groans] 463 00:19:46,700 --> 00:19:48,368 You know, we had to keep doing it, 464 00:19:48,368 --> 00:19:50,204 and there was just blood all over the place 465 00:19:50,204 --> 00:19:52,005 all the time. 466 00:19:52,005 --> 00:19:53,440 PAUL VERHOEVEN: Yeah, what's that? [indistinct speech] 467 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:54,508 -CREWMEMBER 1: Yeah. -CREWMEMBER 2: Yeah. 468 00:19:54,508 --> 00:19:55,342 PAUL VERHOEVEN: Okay, fight! 469 00:19:55,342 --> 00:19:56,843 [yells] 470 00:20:01,114 --> 00:20:03,450 After a while, it just was kind of sickening, you know? 471 00:20:03,450 --> 00:20:06,320 [groans] 472 00:20:07,287 --> 00:20:08,322 CAMERA OPERATOR 2: Cut! 473 00:20:08,322 --> 00:20:10,324 That wasn't so hard to shoot. 474 00:20:10,324 --> 00:20:11,525 I have to tell you, 475 00:20:11,525 --> 00:20:13,293 I've been shot with squibs before. 476 00:20:13,293 --> 00:20:14,127 Blood! 477 00:20:14,127 --> 00:20:17,030 [screams] 478 00:20:19,833 --> 00:20:21,835 Now, there's no squibs anymore, thank God, 479 00:20:21,835 --> 00:20:23,570 '‘cause they're just a pain. 480 00:20:23,570 --> 00:20:25,672 They're a pain to put on, they're also really dangerous. 481 00:20:25,672 --> 00:20:28,875 I've had my eye burned, my cheeks burned, back burned, 482 00:20:28,875 --> 00:20:29,843 everything burned, man. 483 00:20:29,843 --> 00:20:31,144 They go sideways. 484 00:20:31,144 --> 00:20:32,846 Real violence, the minute I see it, 485 00:20:32,846 --> 00:20:34,314 I'm horrified. 486 00:20:34,314 --> 00:20:36,984 Screen violence, I really like, and I-- 487 00:20:36,984 --> 00:20:39,019 And it's not real violence. It's beautiful. 488 00:20:39,019 --> 00:20:39,820 ASSISTANT DIRECTOR: And action! 489 00:20:39,820 --> 00:20:41,154 [screams] 490 00:20:41,154 --> 00:20:42,589 ED: And so, one of the things that happened, 491 00:20:42,589 --> 00:20:44,992 that was interesting, was that I met Paul. 492 00:20:44,992 --> 00:20:46,560 And Paul and I we're like, you know, 493 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:47,894 it's like you meet that girl 494 00:20:47,894 --> 00:20:49,029 who likes the same ice cream you do. 495 00:20:49,029 --> 00:20:50,397 [laughs] 496 00:20:50,397 --> 00:20:51,832 That was just like, "Oh!" 497 00:20:51,832 --> 00:20:53,033 And we would say things like that, 498 00:20:53,033 --> 00:20:54,401 "Well, I think violence is beautiful." 499 00:20:54,401 --> 00:20:55,669 And he would go, "Yeah, it is, it is. 500 00:20:55,669 --> 00:20:56,903 Yeah." 501 00:20:56,903 --> 00:20:58,405 The hardest thing was the prosthetic 502 00:20:58,405 --> 00:20:59,706 of the arm going off. 503 00:20:59,706 --> 00:21:00,574 ASSISTANT DIRECTOR: Three! 504 00:21:03,010 --> 00:21:05,679 [screams] 505 00:21:05,679 --> 00:21:09,283 RAY: There was a certain amount of um, uncomfortability. 506 00:21:09,283 --> 00:21:11,518 But then after a while it got to be so ridiculous 507 00:21:11,518 --> 00:21:13,754 with all the-- all the-- all the shooting 508 00:21:13,754 --> 00:21:15,455 that it did become humorous to us. 509 00:21:15,455 --> 00:21:17,591 Oh, shit, I'm out of ammo! 510 00:21:17,591 --> 00:21:18,859 -Nice shot. -[laugh together] 511 00:21:18,859 --> 00:21:19,693 [overlapping speech] 512 00:21:19,693 --> 00:21:20,694 He wouldn't die! 513 00:21:20,694 --> 00:21:22,195 [laugh together] 514 00:21:22,195 --> 00:21:24,865 And so, the laughs were more real, I suppose. 515 00:21:24,865 --> 00:21:27,067 Uh, the dialogue is fantastic, I think. 516 00:21:27,067 --> 00:21:29,403 "Does it hurt? Does it hurt?" 517 00:21:29,403 --> 00:21:30,871 [laughs] 518 00:21:30,871 --> 00:21:32,639 Does it hurt? Does it hurt? 519 00:21:32,639 --> 00:21:34,241 [laugh together] 520 00:21:34,241 --> 00:21:35,442 JESSE: All of that was improvised, you know? 521 00:21:35,442 --> 00:21:37,077 "Good night, sweet prince." 522 00:21:37,077 --> 00:21:38,578 JOE: Good night, sweet prince. 523 00:21:38,578 --> 00:21:40,580 [Joe laughing] 524 00:21:40,580 --> 00:21:41,948 JESSE: That's all improvised. 525 00:21:44,318 --> 00:21:46,420 The puppet, that was a very big deal. 526 00:21:46,420 --> 00:21:47,454 That was another one. 527 00:21:47,454 --> 00:21:49,389 "Oh, by the way, we need a set 528 00:21:49,389 --> 00:21:52,092 that's got about four feet underneath it, 529 00:21:52,092 --> 00:21:54,561 so we can get our puppeteers in there 530 00:21:54,561 --> 00:21:56,897 to operate this puppet of Peter Weller." 531 00:21:56,897 --> 00:21:59,066 Rob Bottin had built this 532 00:21:59,066 --> 00:22:01,735 incredibly lifelike version of Peter Weller. 533 00:22:01,735 --> 00:22:04,304 ARNE: It was shocking how detailed it was. 534 00:22:04,304 --> 00:22:06,940 You could see like every pore in his skin. 535 00:22:06,940 --> 00:22:08,508 Rob was there for that 536 00:22:08,508 --> 00:22:11,511 and Rob was directing the sequence, practically, 537 00:22:11,511 --> 00:22:13,580 because it has to be shot this way 538 00:22:13,580 --> 00:22:16,683 with the gun that's connected to the fake head. 539 00:22:18,318 --> 00:22:20,087 It's got like an eccentric motor, 540 00:22:20,087 --> 00:22:22,322 like a car polisher in it, so the thing is shaking, 541 00:22:22,322 --> 00:22:23,957 and it's-- it's just incredible. 542 00:22:24,658 --> 00:22:26,093 Okay, fun's over. 543 00:22:26,093 --> 00:22:26,960 [groans] 544 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,028 [laugh together] 545 00:22:28,028 --> 00:22:30,997 [yells] 546 00:22:31,965 --> 00:22:33,166 CLARENCE: Okay, let's get out of here. 547 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,869 On one take, I said, "Hey, Jesse, you know what? 548 00:22:35,869 --> 00:22:37,137 You know, fuck it. Let's moonwalk out." 549 00:22:40,273 --> 00:22:41,608 And then you see we did a little moonwalk 550 00:22:41,608 --> 00:22:42,476 as were leaving, right? 551 00:22:42,476 --> 00:22:43,944 [chuckles] 552 00:22:43,944 --> 00:22:46,213 And then there's that pile of coke, right? 553 00:22:46,213 --> 00:22:47,481 So, we moonwalked out, I saw the coke. 554 00:22:47,481 --> 00:22:48,849 Boom! 555 00:22:48,849 --> 00:22:50,183 I popped my head in the coke, came up, 556 00:22:50,183 --> 00:22:51,118 you have all this coke on your face. 557 00:22:51,118 --> 00:22:52,686 Jesse would do that. 558 00:22:52,686 --> 00:22:54,454 And we moonwalked out, and then we came up, we said, 559 00:22:54,454 --> 00:22:56,022 "Paul?" 560 00:22:56,022 --> 00:22:57,190 He was like, "Oh, no, that's okay! That's okay!" 561 00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:58,859 He didn't care what you did. 562 00:23:01,795 --> 00:23:06,032 You know, obviously it was devastating for Anne 563 00:23:06,032 --> 00:23:08,468 to not get there when she knew 564 00:23:08,468 --> 00:23:10,003 and she could hear that something was happening, 565 00:23:10,003 --> 00:23:11,505 she couldn't get through, 566 00:23:11,505 --> 00:23:12,973 and say, "This is very traumatic." 567 00:23:14,174 --> 00:23:15,842 Murphy. 568 00:23:19,713 --> 00:23:20,914 Just thought, "Hey, this is great." 569 00:23:20,914 --> 00:23:22,215 You know, we're kind of goin' over 570 00:23:22,215 --> 00:23:24,084 to type with these guys, these killers. 571 00:23:24,084 --> 00:23:26,353 They shot that guy, what, 500 times? 572 00:23:26,353 --> 00:23:28,255 That there was anything left to put together is-- 573 00:23:28,255 --> 00:23:29,756 is a miracle. 574 00:23:29,756 --> 00:23:32,092 It's so crazy bloody and seeming. 575 00:23:32,092 --> 00:23:33,827 It wasn't violent, but it was real bloody. 576 00:23:33,827 --> 00:23:35,662 And I thought, "Oh, we're really in for it now, 577 00:23:35,662 --> 00:23:36,563 you know, with this." 578 00:23:38,231 --> 00:23:40,167 NURSE: Got a pressure of 60 palp. 579 00:23:40,167 --> 00:23:41,735 EMERGENCY DOCTOR: Alright, we have to intubate this guy. 580 00:23:41,735 --> 00:23:42,836 NURSE: His pressure's dropping. 581 00:23:42,836 --> 00:23:44,738 EMERGENCY DOCTOR: Okay. 582 00:23:44,738 --> 00:23:45,739 PETER WELLER: He's a good guy, he's a happy guy, 583 00:23:45,739 --> 00:23:47,340 he's an upbeat guy, man. 584 00:23:47,340 --> 00:23:48,909 He ain't no downbeat, cynical policeman. 585 00:23:48,909 --> 00:23:50,110 Let's prep him for a central line. 586 00:23:52,078 --> 00:23:53,747 PETER WELLER: He's got a family, he's got a life. 587 00:23:56,416 --> 00:23:57,884 When I look at the movie, 588 00:23:57,884 --> 00:24:00,620 I think that's what gives him his humanity. 589 00:24:00,620 --> 00:24:03,223 Is that he had this wife, and this child, 590 00:24:03,223 --> 00:24:05,525 and a woman who loved him, 591 00:24:05,525 --> 00:24:07,928 and she doesn't know what happens to him. 592 00:24:07,928 --> 00:24:10,030 She thinks he's murdered, 593 00:24:10,030 --> 00:24:12,466 and he's killed in the line of duty. 594 00:24:13,366 --> 00:24:14,768 PETER WELLER: He's a public servant, that's what he is, 595 00:24:14,768 --> 00:24:16,236 that's what he wants to do. 596 00:24:16,236 --> 00:24:18,538 And he likes doing his job. Bang! 597 00:24:18,538 --> 00:24:20,307 He gets thrown into this den of vipers, 598 00:24:20,307 --> 00:24:21,875 and uh, it's over for him. 599 00:24:26,613 --> 00:24:28,381 EMERGENCY DOCTOR: Alright, I think that's all we can do. 600 00:24:28,381 --> 00:24:29,049 Let's call it. 601 00:24:29,816 --> 00:24:31,651 DEL: I think it's one of the most brave 602 00:24:31,651 --> 00:24:35,322 and amazing uses of black screen in the history of movie making. 603 00:24:35,322 --> 00:24:38,291 Most filmmakers will never let the screen go black 604 00:24:38,291 --> 00:24:41,561 for eight seconds, because that's deadly. 605 00:24:41,561 --> 00:24:43,930 But he was makin' the point of he's dead. 606 00:24:47,901 --> 00:24:49,603 He dies, 607 00:24:49,603 --> 00:24:51,838 and then slowly basically he comes back to life again. 608 00:24:51,838 --> 00:24:53,340 It's a certain kind of life. 609 00:24:54,641 --> 00:24:57,844 This different idea of shooting from this point of view, 610 00:24:57,844 --> 00:24:59,913 which is now used in video games, 611 00:24:59,913 --> 00:25:01,982 and every-- you see it all the time now, 612 00:25:01,982 --> 00:25:03,850 but then it was very unusual. 613 00:25:03,850 --> 00:25:05,418 Can he understand what I'm saying? 614 00:25:05,418 --> 00:25:08,154 The executive saying he signed a release form, 615 00:25:08,154 --> 00:25:09,623 we can pretty much do anything we want. 616 00:25:09,623 --> 00:25:11,358 He's legally dead. 617 00:25:11,358 --> 00:25:13,193 We can do pretty much what we want to. 618 00:25:13,193 --> 00:25:14,494 MICHAEL: And then his partner saying... 619 00:25:14,494 --> 00:25:15,996 ROOSEVELT: Doesn't matter. 620 00:25:15,996 --> 00:25:17,597 We're gonna blank his memory anyway. 621 00:25:17,597 --> 00:25:19,132 There's a lot to do with ownership of the self, 622 00:25:19,132 --> 00:25:22,435 obviously, and an audience is justifiably outraged 623 00:25:22,435 --> 00:25:25,205 when they hear someone else say, "Give him the amnesia." 624 00:25:25,205 --> 00:25:26,873 Not only has he been brutally killed, 625 00:25:26,873 --> 00:25:29,009 but now he's a corporate product. 626 00:25:29,009 --> 00:25:30,877 And he's owned by somebody. 627 00:25:30,877 --> 00:25:34,447 MICHAEL: That was a very barbed criticism of capitalism 628 00:25:34,447 --> 00:25:35,849 and what ownership is. 629 00:25:35,849 --> 00:25:37,884 Shut him down. Prep him for surgery. 630 00:25:37,884 --> 00:25:39,519 SAGE: I had all my own wardrobe. 631 00:25:39,519 --> 00:25:43,456 The glasses were mine, and it was my idea 632 00:25:43,456 --> 00:25:45,525 that Paul was not very happy with 633 00:25:45,525 --> 00:25:46,893 in the beginning. 634 00:25:46,893 --> 00:25:49,963 He said something to me about being attractive 635 00:25:49,963 --> 00:25:52,499 and he didn't understand why I wanted to wear them, 636 00:25:52,499 --> 00:25:58,004 and to me, it was her being able to put a barrier to say, 637 00:25:58,004 --> 00:25:59,739 you know, "Take me seriously", 638 00:25:59,739 --> 00:26:02,075 because she was working with all these men. 639 00:26:02,075 --> 00:26:03,677 And the one time 640 00:26:03,677 --> 00:26:05,645 she allowed herself to be vulnerable, you know, 641 00:26:05,645 --> 00:26:07,047 were those moments when she took them off. 642 00:26:07,647 --> 00:26:09,316 Happy New Year. 643 00:26:09,316 --> 00:26:11,017 Somebody asked me once, 644 00:26:11,017 --> 00:26:13,153 "You know, you fell over and they got that on camera", 645 00:26:13,153 --> 00:26:15,155 and it's like, "No, that's called acting." 646 00:26:15,155 --> 00:26:16,222 [cheers] 647 00:26:16,222 --> 00:26:16,923 Oh! 648 00:26:18,425 --> 00:26:22,596 SAGE: Certainly, Miguel was, I'd say, my favorite person on the set. 649 00:26:22,596 --> 00:26:24,030 MIGUEL: Well, I played Bob Morton, 650 00:26:24,030 --> 00:26:26,366 who is a-- a sort of up and coming executive 651 00:26:26,366 --> 00:26:28,168 with this company OCP. 652 00:26:28,168 --> 00:26:29,569 The company itself is kind of scary. 653 00:26:29,569 --> 00:26:31,171 It's like, "We are Beatrice", you know? 654 00:26:31,171 --> 00:26:33,306 We own the police, we own the hospital, it's great. 655 00:26:33,306 --> 00:26:36,576 FELTON: The new mega corporation. 656 00:26:36,576 --> 00:26:40,947 And now, they've figured a way to go into law enforcement. 657 00:26:40,947 --> 00:26:44,217 We'll come up with the best cop they ever saw. 658 00:26:44,918 --> 00:26:47,287 You're gonna be a bad motherfucker. 659 00:26:47,287 --> 00:26:47,921 [chuckles] 660 00:26:52,425 --> 00:26:56,229 Rob Bottin had several specific suggestions for Paul 661 00:26:56,229 --> 00:26:57,030 directorially. 662 00:26:58,264 --> 00:27:00,200 BOB: We get the best of both worlds. 663 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:05,405 You know that if you introduce that thing wrong, 664 00:27:05,405 --> 00:27:06,806 and you get a laugh, 665 00:27:06,806 --> 00:27:08,642 you're dead for the rest of the picture. 666 00:27:08,642 --> 00:27:10,977 BOB: The fastest reflexes modern technology has to offer, 667 00:27:10,977 --> 00:27:13,213 onboard computer-assisted memory, 668 00:27:13,213 --> 00:27:16,416 and a lifetime of on-the-street law enforcement programming. 669 00:27:16,416 --> 00:27:19,919 Rob suggested that Paul, as he introduced RoboCop , 670 00:27:19,919 --> 00:27:21,287 conceal him. 671 00:27:21,287 --> 00:27:23,623 It is my great pleasure 672 00:27:23,623 --> 00:27:27,560 to present to you, RoboCop . 673 00:27:29,095 --> 00:27:31,331 MICHAEL: And it's a beautiful directorial suggestion. 674 00:27:31,331 --> 00:27:33,900 Come on, come on, come on. 675 00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:35,335 That's for you. 676 00:27:35,335 --> 00:27:36,636 MICHAEL: The first time we see RoboCop 677 00:27:36,636 --> 00:27:37,904 is when the plastic is pulled off 678 00:27:37,904 --> 00:27:39,139 and there he is on the video screen. 679 00:27:41,808 --> 00:27:43,576 Then we see him behind frosted glass 680 00:27:43,576 --> 00:27:45,011 as he's walking into the police department. 681 00:27:47,747 --> 00:27:50,083 And we just see a turn as he goes through a door. 682 00:27:50,083 --> 00:27:51,584 It felt like something special was happening. 683 00:27:51,584 --> 00:27:53,153 What is this shit? 684 00:27:55,088 --> 00:27:57,457 Then there is wire mesh in front of him 685 00:27:57,457 --> 00:27:59,459 when we see him in his chair. 686 00:27:59,459 --> 00:28:01,628 When you're at rest, you will sit in the chair. 687 00:28:01,628 --> 00:28:03,329 Yes, I understand. 688 00:28:03,329 --> 00:28:06,332 Rob Bottin, in collaboration with Paul, 689 00:28:06,332 --> 00:28:07,701 choreographed that, 690 00:28:07,701 --> 00:28:10,003 so that we slowly introduce the illusion. 691 00:28:10,003 --> 00:28:11,838 And by the time we actually see him, 692 00:28:11,838 --> 00:28:13,707 he's in the chair surrounded by metal, 693 00:28:13,707 --> 00:28:15,675 And they're really selling this thing really well. 694 00:28:15,675 --> 00:28:17,010 That, to me, was brilliant. 695 00:28:19,379 --> 00:28:21,514 The footstep test for RoboCop , 696 00:28:21,514 --> 00:28:25,652 we did 104 individual footstep tests. 697 00:28:28,288 --> 00:28:30,457 Because Paul wanted Robo to be massive. 698 00:28:32,659 --> 00:28:37,130 This is the sound effects prop for RoboCop 's foot. 699 00:28:37,130 --> 00:28:38,965 It's a truck timing chain. 700 00:28:38,965 --> 00:28:40,734 It's-- it's pulled out of a truck. 701 00:28:40,734 --> 00:28:43,369 It's an old truck timing chain with uh, with handles on it. 702 00:28:51,010 --> 00:28:54,180 STEPHEN HUNTER: We hand cut these sort of cartoony, 703 00:28:54,180 --> 00:28:55,749 low-frequency whoops. 704 00:28:57,851 --> 00:29:00,386 Every time Rob walks, he's got a larger than life, 705 00:29:00,386 --> 00:29:02,021 cartoon element to him. 706 00:29:05,825 --> 00:29:07,060 We could perform it 707 00:29:07,060 --> 00:29:08,561 on all the surfaces Robo walked on. 708 00:29:12,265 --> 00:29:14,400 STEPHEN HUNTER: We could perform it dramatically 709 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,103 if he had to scuffle, if he had to go fast. 710 00:29:17,103 --> 00:29:19,939 And because Robo was a heroic character, 711 00:29:19,939 --> 00:29:23,376 without being spurs or roundels, like a Western, 712 00:29:23,376 --> 00:29:25,078 it had that flavor. 713 00:29:31,518 --> 00:29:33,787 Peter Weller had these jackets made for us. 714 00:29:33,787 --> 00:29:35,889 Um, he also gave us all nifty nicknames. 715 00:29:35,889 --> 00:29:37,390 Mine was "Sci-fi", 716 00:29:37,390 --> 00:29:39,559 which was probably the least derogatory of-- 717 00:29:39,559 --> 00:29:40,560 Of everyone elses. 718 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,594 What were the nicknames? 719 00:29:41,594 --> 00:29:43,429 I made nicknames for them. 720 00:29:43,429 --> 00:29:46,232 Mine was "His Royal Swami Blondness." 721 00:29:46,232 --> 00:29:48,668 It was like "Doc" from like the Seven Dwarves. 722 00:29:48,668 --> 00:29:50,436 Yeah, I remember calling Stephan "Doc". 723 00:29:50,436 --> 00:29:51,871 [laughs] 724 00:29:51,871 --> 00:29:53,439 PETER WELLER: Stephan is a genius. 725 00:29:53,439 --> 00:29:55,008 He's a Dick Smith protégé. 726 00:29:55,008 --> 00:29:57,944 Todd Trotter, my assistant, was a great guy. 727 00:29:57,944 --> 00:30:00,947 Todd and Gregor were like nerds. 728 00:30:00,947 --> 00:30:02,882 Bart is one of the greats. 729 00:30:02,882 --> 00:30:05,819 Dennis was like just working constantly. 730 00:30:05,819 --> 00:30:07,720 And Dennis here is like the chief mechanic, 731 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:09,722 he does all the-- supervises all the repairs, 732 00:30:09,722 --> 00:30:11,424 because there are people working on this suit 733 00:30:11,424 --> 00:30:12,492 round the clock. 734 00:30:12,492 --> 00:30:14,394 Beautiful, beautiful guys, man. 735 00:30:14,394 --> 00:30:16,462 Guys were fantastic. 736 00:30:19,432 --> 00:30:21,267 GREGOR: To say it was a monumental effort 737 00:30:21,267 --> 00:30:23,169 to keep that suit running is an understatement. 738 00:30:23,937 --> 00:30:29,075 It was a 24-hour a day process to keep the few suits we had 739 00:30:29,075 --> 00:30:31,010 screen ready. 740 00:30:31,010 --> 00:30:32,512 PETER WELLER: You got a Formula 1 team around you, 741 00:30:32,512 --> 00:30:34,147 changin' out arms, and all the stuff. 742 00:30:34,147 --> 00:30:37,417 And it took 45 minutes to warm up, stretching. 743 00:30:37,417 --> 00:30:39,519 Then workin' the inner suit, doin' all of the stuff. 744 00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:41,821 Pop! Yeah? So, don't go neatly.#* 745 00:30:41,821 --> 00:30:44,490 Your-- uh, your steps were not completely coordinated here. 746 00:30:44,490 --> 00:30:47,093 He greased the machine, Bottin, 747 00:30:47,093 --> 00:30:50,630 and he got it down to like a 90-minute put-on, 748 00:30:50,630 --> 00:30:52,632 which is the best we could do without really messing it up. 749 00:30:54,300 --> 00:30:56,636 GREGOR: The main under suit was made out of foam latex 750 00:30:56,636 --> 00:30:58,371 and it was molded to his body. 751 00:30:58,371 --> 00:31:00,006 BART: We had a bald cap, 752 00:31:00,006 --> 00:31:01,941 and then there was a black foam neck piece, 753 00:31:01,941 --> 00:31:03,843 and the foam jaw piece. 754 00:31:03,843 --> 00:31:05,445 The helmet was fiber glass. 755 00:31:05,445 --> 00:31:07,480 Everything else was a flexible urethane. 756 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,682 GREGOR: Urethanes just don't take paint very well. 757 00:31:09,682 --> 00:31:11,618 So, it would blister and peel, 758 00:31:11,618 --> 00:31:14,888 and so the suit was repaired almost every day. 759 00:31:14,888 --> 00:31:17,790 And by repaired I mean repainted from scratch. 760 00:31:17,790 --> 00:31:20,627 STEPHAN: The paint job was like different coats 761 00:31:20,627 --> 00:31:24,831 of blues, yellows, purple, silver, and so on. 762 00:31:24,831 --> 00:31:27,634 So, it kind of changed color when he was walking around 763 00:31:27,634 --> 00:31:29,736 in different sort of lighting, which was really cool. 764 00:31:31,671 --> 00:31:33,006 BART: The chest was a front and back piece 765 00:31:33,006 --> 00:31:34,340 that screwed on. 766 00:31:34,340 --> 00:31:35,909 And then there were the little rings 767 00:31:35,909 --> 00:31:38,144 on the shoulders, we just Super Glued those on. 768 00:31:38,144 --> 00:31:40,880 The arms were one piece that slid up 769 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,183 and had Velcro on the shoulders that anchored those to the suit. 770 00:31:45,251 --> 00:31:47,220 The black gloves were foam latex. 771 00:31:47,220 --> 00:31:50,523 RoboCop couldn't be dressed without the power of K-Y jelly. 772 00:31:50,523 --> 00:31:51,991 To get his gloves on, 773 00:31:51,991 --> 00:31:53,860 there was quite a few gallons of K-Y jelly 774 00:31:53,860 --> 00:31:55,094 that were used to do that. 775 00:31:55,094 --> 00:31:56,596 BART: Those little details, 776 00:31:56,596 --> 00:31:58,164 there's like a pivot point on the hip 777 00:31:58,164 --> 00:32:00,199 that's like right at the pivot point. 778 00:32:00,199 --> 00:32:03,436 So, it looks like the leg is swingin' from that point. 779 00:32:03,436 --> 00:32:04,837 MILES: I remember Rob was really frustrated 780 00:32:04,837 --> 00:32:06,105 that Verhoeven said, 781 00:32:06,105 --> 00:32:07,507 "There's something wrong with the butt. 782 00:32:07,507 --> 00:32:09,075 I don't like it. It looks like a butterfly. 783 00:32:09,075 --> 00:32:11,077 It must be changed. We can't have a butterfly." 784 00:32:11,077 --> 00:32:13,713 And the-- the Robo butt was a big point of contention, 785 00:32:13,713 --> 00:32:15,181 for some reason. 786 00:32:15,181 --> 00:32:16,482 And you don't see it very often in the movie. 787 00:32:18,785 --> 00:32:20,520 I can't imagine the film bein' a success 788 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,388 without Robo team's make-up work, 789 00:32:22,388 --> 00:32:25,425 because it really is just a guy in a plastic suit. 790 00:32:27,226 --> 00:32:28,761 PETER WELLER: There's one line I didn't like. 791 00:32:28,761 --> 00:32:30,630 ROBOCOP: What are your prime directives? 792 00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:32,298 PETER WELLER: I didn't like "Serve the public trust." 793 00:32:32,298 --> 00:32:34,267 It just seemed lightweight to me, 794 00:32:34,267 --> 00:32:36,602 and Paul convinced me to say it anyway. 795 00:32:36,602 --> 00:32:38,538 And uh, I like it now. I'm glad I said it. 796 00:32:38,538 --> 00:32:40,473 Serve the public trust. 797 00:32:40,473 --> 00:32:42,241 Because finally, what is a policemen 798 00:32:42,241 --> 00:32:43,576 except serving the public trust. 799 00:32:44,243 --> 00:32:46,312 Once this physique, 800 00:32:46,312 --> 00:32:52,585 and the physicality of the robot became organic to me, 801 00:32:52,585 --> 00:32:54,654 it became apparent 802 00:32:54,654 --> 00:32:59,759 that I had to lower the octave of the voice. 803 00:32:59,759 --> 00:33:01,461 Protect the innocent. 804 00:33:01,461 --> 00:33:02,662 You have to go, "Bravo--" 805 00:33:02,662 --> 00:33:05,732 [vocalizes] 806 00:33:05,732 --> 00:33:07,133 You gotta relax it. 807 00:33:07,133 --> 00:33:09,102 So, you're drinkin' hot tea during the day. 808 00:33:09,102 --> 00:33:12,271 Not talkin' to people helps. Relax the vocal cords. 809 00:33:12,271 --> 00:33:16,476 And the diction has to be human but robotic. 810 00:33:16,909 --> 00:33:18,478 Uphold the law. 811 00:33:18,478 --> 00:33:22,115 When I'm doing this voice, it's down here. 812 00:33:22,115 --> 00:33:23,349 Stay out of trouble. 813 00:33:24,117 --> 00:33:26,252 Stay out of trouble. 814 00:33:26,252 --> 00:33:28,287 And yeah, they tweaked it in post a little bit. 815 00:33:30,356 --> 00:33:32,925 STEVE LEE: They did a little bit of processing on Robo's voice. 816 00:33:32,925 --> 00:33:35,661 Serve the public trust. Protect the innocent. 817 00:33:35,661 --> 00:33:37,096 Uphold the law. 818 00:33:37,096 --> 00:33:38,931 That was actually done on the dub stage, 819 00:33:38,931 --> 00:33:41,167 so that they could control the amount of it 820 00:33:41,167 --> 00:33:43,469 depending on where he was in the film. 821 00:33:43,469 --> 00:33:46,639 ROBOCOP: Come quietly or there will be trouble. 822 00:33:48,508 --> 00:33:52,478 Come quietly or there will be trouble. 823 00:33:52,478 --> 00:33:54,981 STEPHEN HUNTER: And Robo himself had voice processing 824 00:33:54,981 --> 00:33:57,216 that was put through some guitar stomp boxes. 825 00:33:57,216 --> 00:33:58,651 ROBOCOP: You are under arrest. 826 00:33:58,651 --> 00:34:00,286 And by the way, 827 00:34:00,286 --> 00:34:04,057 Peter's voice was just perfect for this character. 828 00:34:04,857 --> 00:34:06,392 ROBOCOP: Keep him talking. 829 00:34:07,393 --> 00:34:10,530 And then, of course, there was Paul Verhoeven, 830 00:34:10,530 --> 00:34:12,331 the crazy Dutchman. 831 00:34:16,135 --> 00:34:17,236 This movie without Paul Verhoeven 832 00:34:17,236 --> 00:34:18,237 is impossible. 833 00:34:18,237 --> 00:34:19,705 The energy and the passion. 834 00:34:19,705 --> 00:34:21,507 Verhoeven was the man. 835 00:34:21,507 --> 00:34:23,076 PAUL VERHOEVEN: Thank you very much. Thank you. 836 00:34:23,076 --> 00:34:24,710 And he was the man we tried to please. 837 00:34:24,710 --> 00:34:27,013 [yells] 838 00:34:27,013 --> 00:34:28,681 Action. 839 00:34:28,681 --> 00:34:29,715 NANCY: The drive of the movie comes from Paul. 840 00:34:29,715 --> 00:34:31,918 Hello. Hi. Hey. Come on, guys. 841 00:34:31,918 --> 00:34:33,886 ED: It's impossible to imagine it without him. 842 00:34:36,689 --> 00:34:37,490 PAUL VERHOEVEN: Pack up! 843 00:34:39,492 --> 00:34:42,361 NANCY: He infused the set every day. 844 00:34:42,361 --> 00:34:43,596 There's nothing there. 845 00:34:43,596 --> 00:34:45,098 Just give me a little more there. 846 00:34:45,098 --> 00:34:46,432 And he'd just walk on the set, and he'd say, 847 00:34:46,432 --> 00:34:48,067 "Why are we not shooting?" you know? 848 00:34:48,067 --> 00:34:49,735 And that's right there, you're ready to go, you know? 849 00:34:49,735 --> 00:34:52,171 And uh, he'd act out all the roles. 850 00:34:52,171 --> 00:34:53,940 Pop, pop. 851 00:34:53,940 --> 00:34:55,074 And everything coming over here,#* 852 00:34:55,074 --> 00:34:56,109 and then he was here #* "Phew!" 853 00:34:56,109 --> 00:34:57,777 You're thrown from the window. 854 00:34:57,777 --> 00:34:59,078 And when you're thrown from the window, #* "Boom!" 855 00:34:59,078 --> 00:34:59,779 you're thrown from the other window. 856 00:34:59,779 --> 00:35:00,813 So many gun. 857 00:35:00,813 --> 00:35:01,614 He's like, "Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam!" 858 00:35:01,614 --> 00:35:03,182 [yells] 859 00:35:03,182 --> 00:35:05,418 "And so, give me that." And we're like, "Okay." 860 00:35:05,418 --> 00:35:06,919 [laughs] 861 00:35:06,919 --> 00:35:09,722 The Verhoeven mantra on RoboCop was blood, 862 00:35:09,722 --> 00:35:11,257 I want more fucking blood. 863 00:35:11,257 --> 00:35:13,192 Bloody, extremely bloody. 864 00:35:13,192 --> 00:35:14,694 And he would scream that every day. 865 00:35:14,694 --> 00:35:16,028 One thing he'd like to say, 866 00:35:16,028 --> 00:35:18,764 I want sprouting blood! Sprouting blood! 867 00:35:18,764 --> 00:35:20,233 Arms blowing off!" 868 00:35:20,233 --> 00:35:21,134 [mimics explosions] 869 00:35:21,134 --> 00:35:22,135 [mimics gunfire] 870 00:35:22,135 --> 00:35:22,869 And we have [mimics gunfire] 871 00:35:22,869 --> 00:35:24,737 [mimics gunfire] 872 00:35:24,737 --> 00:35:26,806 JOST: What he always say, "Yeah, I mean, what is life? 873 00:35:26,806 --> 00:35:29,442 Life is about sex, and about violence, 874 00:35:29,442 --> 00:35:31,410 about fighting, and about blood." 875 00:35:31,410 --> 00:35:32,945 I love this. 876 00:35:32,945 --> 00:35:34,380 He just clearly really loved what he was doin'. 877 00:35:34,380 --> 00:35:35,815 he was wildly enthusiastic. 878 00:35:35,815 --> 00:35:38,084 He's such a highly intelligent guy. 879 00:35:38,084 --> 00:35:39,418 And he loved actors. 880 00:35:39,418 --> 00:35:40,720 PAUL VERHOEVEN: Go! 881 00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:42,588 I think my influence and the style 882 00:35:42,588 --> 00:35:44,924 has much more to do with the way I work with the actors, 883 00:35:44,924 --> 00:35:47,927 which is I spend, I think, much more time with the actors 884 00:35:47,927 --> 00:35:50,229 than you would normally do for an action picture. 885 00:35:50,229 --> 00:35:54,133 Paul made us really care desperately 886 00:35:54,133 --> 00:35:55,134 about those characters. 887 00:35:57,803 --> 00:36:00,606 JON: I mean I never saw a director worked as hard as Paul. 888 00:36:00,606 --> 00:36:03,609 But he was difficult. 889 00:36:03,609 --> 00:36:05,611 Paul was a very volatile guy. 890 00:36:05,611 --> 00:36:07,079 Paul was rather a mad man. 891 00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:08,614 Yeah, he could be a monster. 892 00:36:08,614 --> 00:36:09,916 He had attitude. 893 00:36:09,916 --> 00:36:12,285 You could tell he was a-- a sexual man. 894 00:36:12,285 --> 00:36:14,487 Full of energy, you know? Crazy. 895 00:36:14,487 --> 00:36:16,122 Yeah, he was kinda manic. 896 00:36:16,122 --> 00:36:17,757 Genius, brilliant director. 897 00:36:17,757 --> 00:36:19,025 I thought he was a little maniacal, 898 00:36:19,025 --> 00:36:20,293 but I thought he was a genius. 899 00:36:20,293 --> 00:36:21,794 And he was a challenging director 900 00:36:21,794 --> 00:36:22,862 to work with. 901 00:36:22,862 --> 00:36:23,863 There was no question about it. 902 00:36:24,931 --> 00:36:26,832 JON: Paul Verhoeven could be terrifying. 903 00:36:26,832 --> 00:36:28,534 I mean, he's a brilliant guy 904 00:36:28,534 --> 00:36:30,603 and a great cat to have dinner with, and so forth, 905 00:36:30,603 --> 00:36:32,104 but he's another human bein' on a set. 906 00:36:32,104 --> 00:36:33,539 CREW MEMBER 3: Dan, we're comin' up next. 907 00:36:33,539 --> 00:36:34,840 PAUL VERHOEVEN: Come on, come on! 908 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,176 I don't think he trusted initially 909 00:36:37,176 --> 00:36:38,878 the American crew. 910 00:36:38,878 --> 00:36:41,280 I think there was some friction, because the American crew 911 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,149 had this sense of "We're Hollywood and you're not, 912 00:36:43,149 --> 00:36:44,650 and we're gonna show you how to make a movie", 913 00:36:44,650 --> 00:36:45,985 which was pretty funny, 914 00:36:45,985 --> 00:36:47,186 '‘cause he like kicked their asses. 915 00:36:47,186 --> 00:36:48,321 PAUL VERHOEVEN: Okay, do it again! 916 00:36:48,321 --> 00:36:49,989 Do it again. Do it again! 917 00:36:49,989 --> 00:36:51,691 Shooting with the crew is always the same. 918 00:36:51,691 --> 00:36:54,193 I feel of that-- if that's a Dutch crew 919 00:36:54,193 --> 00:36:56,729 or an American crew, I think, 920 00:36:56,729 --> 00:36:58,998 filming all over the world is the same. 921 00:36:58,998 --> 00:37:01,534 So, there is nothing specific to discuss basically 922 00:37:01,534 --> 00:37:03,169 than normal filmmaking. 923 00:37:03,169 --> 00:37:09,075 He treated people pretty poorly in many instances. 924 00:37:09,075 --> 00:37:10,977 I've seen him go off on crews in ways 925 00:37:10,977 --> 00:37:14,013 that you just would not want to be around 926 00:37:14,013 --> 00:37:15,047 when that's happening. 927 00:37:15,047 --> 00:37:16,549 Paul would get in their faces 928 00:37:16,549 --> 00:37:20,019 and just frickin' scream at them. 929 00:37:20,019 --> 00:37:23,689 "I want more! It's not enough! You're fucking up my movie!" 930 00:37:23,689 --> 00:37:25,191 "What? Why? 931 00:37:25,191 --> 00:37:26,993 You're conspiring to ruin my movie!" 932 00:37:26,993 --> 00:37:29,228 I mean, he was just so crazy about it. 933 00:37:29,228 --> 00:37:31,564 He would blow up and go running off. 934 00:37:31,564 --> 00:37:34,000 Yelling and screaming, "Y'all! Boom, boom!" 935 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:34,867 [indistinct speech] 936 00:37:34,867 --> 00:37:36,269 "This is crap! 937 00:37:36,269 --> 00:37:38,237 You Americans don't know how to do it!" 938 00:37:38,237 --> 00:37:39,705 PAUL VERHOEVEN: Wow! 939 00:37:39,705 --> 00:37:41,574 The tensions were very high at that time, 940 00:37:41,574 --> 00:37:43,743 because everybody had his own problem, 941 00:37:43,743 --> 00:37:45,745 annoying things happened, and this and that. 942 00:37:45,745 --> 00:37:49,348 It was always about things not being ready, 943 00:37:49,348 --> 00:37:51,417 things that he had been promised. 944 00:37:51,417 --> 00:37:53,352 I'll say this, it was always because 945 00:37:53,352 --> 00:37:55,421 he was tryin' to push the envelope 946 00:37:55,421 --> 00:37:57,957 not to get a nicer trailer for himself, 947 00:37:57,957 --> 00:37:59,892 not to have a fancier hotel room, 948 00:37:59,892 --> 00:38:01,761 it was always about the movie. 949 00:38:01,761 --> 00:38:05,698 JON: He just was fighting everybody for the best. 950 00:38:05,698 --> 00:38:06,932 It's only intuition. 951 00:38:06,932 --> 00:38:09,235 I really go on intuition, 952 00:38:09,235 --> 00:38:14,040 and I've learned that in 90% of the cases I'm right. 953 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,474 And in 10% I'm wrong. 954 00:38:15,474 --> 00:38:17,977 And that's basically-- is enough. 955 00:38:19,979 --> 00:38:23,082 The thing with Paul is that Paul's nuts. 956 00:38:23,082 --> 00:38:26,118 But he's inspiring, man! 957 00:38:26,118 --> 00:38:29,622 You know, you feel like you're in the deck 958 00:38:29,622 --> 00:38:31,590 with Neil Armstrong, bro. 959 00:38:31,590 --> 00:38:33,659 That's what you feel like working with Paul. 960 00:38:33,659 --> 00:38:38,898 He's a quick, and inventive, and unsettled guy. 961 00:38:38,898 --> 00:38:42,468 And that took getting used to, but once I got used to that, 962 00:38:42,468 --> 00:38:44,103 which really didn't take a large adjustment, 963 00:38:44,103 --> 00:38:48,407 because I'm sort of unsettled and-- and uh, restless. 964 00:38:48,407 --> 00:38:50,409 One I got used to that, we got used to each other 965 00:38:50,409 --> 00:38:52,311 that that's where we're gonna begin, 966 00:38:52,311 --> 00:38:53,312 then it was phenomenal. 967 00:39:01,153 --> 00:39:02,755 KEVIN KUTCHAVER: The Robo vision stuff. 968 00:39:02,755 --> 00:39:04,824 I had a guy once ask me what computer I was using 969 00:39:04,824 --> 00:39:07,360 back then in '87, 970 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,762 and I said, "I think I had a calculator, 971 00:39:09,762 --> 00:39:11,764 so I could do my invoicing." 972 00:39:11,764 --> 00:39:14,533 Remember that back then, this wasn't done on a computer. 973 00:39:14,533 --> 00:39:17,103 This was all done photographically and-- 974 00:39:17,103 --> 00:39:17,970 And optically. 975 00:39:20,106 --> 00:39:22,808 One of the things that was a little tough 976 00:39:22,808 --> 00:39:24,276 was to try to come up with 977 00:39:24,276 --> 00:39:26,145 what they wanted Robo vision to look like. 978 00:39:27,446 --> 00:39:29,382 Let me see. 979 00:39:29,382 --> 00:39:30,850 PETER KURAN: What I came up with was kind of a video line. 980 00:39:30,850 --> 00:39:32,385 It-- it was an actual video, 981 00:39:32,385 --> 00:39:34,019 it wasn't photographed off a video, 982 00:39:34,019 --> 00:39:39,125 it was actual optical printing with two sets of lines. 983 00:39:39,125 --> 00:39:42,495 One set of lines to lay in the first image 984 00:39:42,495 --> 00:39:43,562 every other line, 985 00:39:43,562 --> 00:39:44,897 and then the next set of lines, 986 00:39:44,897 --> 00:39:46,732 and I kind of shifted it a little bit, 987 00:39:46,732 --> 00:39:50,069 so it looked like it had kind of a jagged uh, appearance. 988 00:39:52,004 --> 00:39:55,207 It was a very technical process in those scenes, 989 00:39:55,207 --> 00:39:58,577 because there was gonna be a grid, you know? 990 00:39:58,577 --> 00:39:59,545 "Give me a grid." 991 00:39:59,545 --> 00:40:00,980 Give me a grid. 992 00:40:00,980 --> 00:40:02,181 -BILL: Got it. -TECHNICIAN 2: It's there. 993 00:40:02,181 --> 00:40:03,182 -Target. -TECHNICIAN 1: Check. 994 00:40:03,182 --> 00:40:04,650 And coordinating everything 995 00:40:04,650 --> 00:40:07,420 with what was gonna be on the screen later, 996 00:40:07,420 --> 00:40:08,921 making sure that we were all looking 997 00:40:08,921 --> 00:40:11,190 in a particular direction at the same time, 998 00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:13,492 and it was a monumental task. 999 00:40:13,492 --> 00:40:14,693 Now, follow. 1000 00:40:14,693 --> 00:40:16,529 It was basically followin' the pen. 1001 00:40:18,831 --> 00:40:20,332 KEVIN KUTCHAVER: It was like all hands on deck, 1002 00:40:20,332 --> 00:40:22,768 because the stuff was really, really tedious. 1003 00:40:22,768 --> 00:40:24,403 Things like the targeting, as an example, 1004 00:40:24,403 --> 00:40:25,771 would be uh, hand-drawn art. 1005 00:40:25,771 --> 00:40:28,007 We would actually, on a clear cell, 1006 00:40:28,007 --> 00:40:32,077 paint the cross and the box on separate layers. 1007 00:40:32,077 --> 00:40:35,114 We would then paint black outside of them, 1008 00:40:35,114 --> 00:40:37,716 cover them with Exeter paper and black tape. 1009 00:40:37,716 --> 00:40:40,119 That-- that's really, at that time, all we had. 1010 00:40:40,119 --> 00:40:41,220 It-- it seems like it was ridiculous 1011 00:40:41,220 --> 00:40:42,087 now to talk about it. 1012 00:40:42,087 --> 00:40:43,255 What, are you kidding? 1013 00:40:43,255 --> 00:40:44,523 This was in the '‘80s, right? 1014 00:40:44,523 --> 00:40:46,025 Yes. 1015 00:40:46,025 --> 00:40:47,793 KEVIN KUTCHAVER: We project the work print down, 1016 00:40:47,793 --> 00:40:50,095 line the art work up, plot it out, 1017 00:40:50,095 --> 00:40:51,397 and then bottom light the art. 1018 00:40:51,397 --> 00:40:53,699 I did a lot of optical printer testing 1019 00:40:53,699 --> 00:40:56,602 of different types of effects to show to Paul 1020 00:40:56,602 --> 00:40:58,537 and get an idea of what it was that he liked. 1021 00:41:00,473 --> 00:41:03,742 You'd have the crosshairs, animating. 1022 00:41:03,742 --> 00:41:06,412 Then you'd have another element of the box, 1023 00:41:06,412 --> 00:41:09,081 and either we could basically do a second exposure 1024 00:41:09,081 --> 00:41:11,717 where we'd have the box animate on and off, 1025 00:41:11,717 --> 00:41:13,452 or Pete could do that in the optical printer. 1026 00:41:13,452 --> 00:41:14,720 It really all depended on what the shot was at the time. 1027 00:41:17,490 --> 00:41:19,458 Pete could then go into the printer, and color, 1028 00:41:19,458 --> 00:41:21,594 and add a diffusion to give it a glow, 1029 00:41:21,594 --> 00:41:23,762 and do these multiple passes and stuff to give it a-- 1030 00:41:23,762 --> 00:41:25,664 a kind of stylized look, so it wasn't just so raw. 1031 00:41:27,299 --> 00:41:28,801 To make it look 1032 00:41:28,801 --> 00:41:30,769 like it was some form of digital technology, 1033 00:41:30,769 --> 00:41:33,806 without actually using any digital material or effects. 1034 00:41:37,276 --> 00:41:41,280 All the visuals on Robo's POV came from sounds 1035 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:42,848 that John Pospisil had made... 1036 00:41:45,584 --> 00:41:48,187 ...From an ARP 2600, 1037 00:41:48,187 --> 00:41:50,422 which were beeps, and dips, and zips. 1038 00:41:50,422 --> 00:41:53,826 You could control these early analog synthesizers 1039 00:41:53,826 --> 00:41:55,094 to make any kinda sound you wanted, 1040 00:41:55,094 --> 00:41:56,629 but it took a very long time to do. 1041 00:41:59,398 --> 00:42:02,434 KEVIN KUTCHAVER: Most of the text came from like Kodalith on high icon, 1042 00:42:02,434 --> 00:42:04,036 high contrast film, 1043 00:42:04,036 --> 00:42:06,839 which gave you a stark contrasty black-and-white image. 1044 00:42:06,839 --> 00:42:09,174 There were pages of font that you could buy, 1045 00:42:09,174 --> 00:42:10,509 that you could basically paste up 1046 00:42:10,509 --> 00:42:12,645 like in the old publishing days. 1047 00:42:12,645 --> 00:42:15,114 Pete was really kind of the master of designing stuff 1048 00:42:15,114 --> 00:42:16,315 on the optical printer. 1049 00:42:16,315 --> 00:42:19,485 Voice stress analyzer 1, 2... 1050 00:42:19,485 --> 00:42:20,519 [vocalizes] 1051 00:42:20,519 --> 00:42:22,354 The voice analyzer, 1052 00:42:22,354 --> 00:42:25,124 that I actually photographed off of like an oscilloscope 1053 00:42:25,124 --> 00:42:27,493 and then composited that into the shot. 1054 00:42:27,493 --> 00:42:28,961 I had to envision 1055 00:42:28,961 --> 00:42:31,497 what the visual effects team was gonna do. 1056 00:42:31,497 --> 00:42:35,834 So, I would get a s-- uh, a sketch that I could see, 1057 00:42:35,834 --> 00:42:39,004 but it was very difficult for me to actually, you know, 1058 00:42:39,004 --> 00:42:40,639 do the timing, 1059 00:42:40,639 --> 00:42:43,642 except from the way the people read it. 1060 00:42:43,642 --> 00:42:46,312 You can sort of imagine it when it's written, 1061 00:42:46,312 --> 00:42:48,314 but how well it was done... 1062 00:42:48,314 --> 00:42:49,748 [vocalizes] 1063 00:42:49,748 --> 00:42:51,350 SAGE: ...that was really incredible. 1064 00:42:51,350 --> 00:42:52,918 Give me a full frame. 1065 00:42:52,918 --> 00:42:54,486 Say there was probably somewhere in the neighborhood 1066 00:42:54,486 --> 00:42:56,822 of 120 shots like that. 1067 00:42:56,822 --> 00:42:57,489 Oh! 1068 00:42:57,489 --> 00:42:58,857 [kisses] 1069 00:42:58,857 --> 00:43:00,159 I fuckin' love that guy! 1070 00:43:06,265 --> 00:43:08,534 Verhoeven came to me one day and he said, 1071 00:43:08,534 --> 00:43:11,337 "I need you to take Nancy Allen and teach her how to shoot, 1072 00:43:11,337 --> 00:43:13,005 '‘cause she doesn't know how to shoot. 1073 00:43:13,005 --> 00:43:15,574 And I want you to reach her to run like a man." 1074 00:43:15,574 --> 00:43:17,376 And she goes, "Oh, Verhoeven ." 1075 00:43:19,511 --> 00:43:21,013 It was very different than anything 1076 00:43:21,013 --> 00:43:22,381 that I had done before. 1077 00:43:23,148 --> 00:43:26,452 For me, what was great about it is that I had so many women, 1078 00:43:26,452 --> 00:43:28,754 young women, sometimes little girls, 1079 00:43:28,754 --> 00:43:31,590 write to me about that character, 1080 00:43:31,590 --> 00:43:33,459 and how it made them feel, 1081 00:43:33,459 --> 00:43:35,060 like they could be really important, 1082 00:43:35,060 --> 00:43:36,762 and do something really important in their life. 1083 00:43:36,762 --> 00:43:38,130 "Wow! 1084 00:43:38,130 --> 00:43:40,199 Yeah, a woman can be that tough, too." 1085 00:43:42,534 --> 00:43:44,370 You know, they put us behind glass, 1086 00:43:44,370 --> 00:43:46,405 so that they could dolly across in front of us 1087 00:43:46,405 --> 00:43:48,374 with all of us firing. 1088 00:43:48,374 --> 00:43:49,441 YOLONDA: They're all comin' down on it like a dolly, like-- 1089 00:43:49,441 --> 00:43:50,909 [mimics dolly moving] 1090 00:43:50,909 --> 00:43:52,711 I mean everybody shootin' over their heads 1091 00:43:52,711 --> 00:43:54,079 and stuff, and I was like "Lord, I don't wanna shoot anybody." 1092 00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:55,047 [laughs] 1093 00:43:55,047 --> 00:43:57,082 They were blanks obviously, 1094 00:43:57,082 --> 00:43:59,385 but I just remember it being very loud and all that. 1095 00:43:59,385 --> 00:44:02,488 The noise and everything in reality was really-- 1096 00:44:02,488 --> 00:44:03,889 It was deafening. 1097 00:44:05,624 --> 00:44:08,227 The Robo gun presented a very interesting challenge, 1098 00:44:08,227 --> 00:44:09,828 because it had to be this huge gun 1099 00:44:09,828 --> 00:44:11,930 that's bigger than all the others. 1100 00:44:11,930 --> 00:44:13,899 The scene in the shooting range, where you see it back there, 1101 00:44:13,899 --> 00:44:15,467 it had to stand out. 1102 00:44:15,467 --> 00:44:17,136 It had to be a reason for all those others guys 1103 00:44:17,136 --> 00:44:18,504 to stop shooting and look. 1104 00:44:26,779 --> 00:44:28,080 The actual firing, 1105 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,448 they sweetened the hell out of that 1106 00:44:29,448 --> 00:44:30,482 with so many other guns. 1107 00:44:33,385 --> 00:44:36,355 STEVE LEE: And John Pospisil, he was our mad genius. 1108 00:44:36,355 --> 00:44:37,990 He made all kinds of synth sweeteners. 1109 00:44:40,959 --> 00:44:41,994 And just made it huge. 1110 00:44:44,997 --> 00:44:46,765 [yells] 1111 00:44:46,765 --> 00:44:49,034 JOHN: To see that-- that freakin' creation and-- 1112 00:44:49,034 --> 00:44:51,670 And those cannons that he pulled out of his thing 1113 00:44:51,670 --> 00:44:54,039 and started blastin' away with, it was uh, it was-- 1114 00:44:54,039 --> 00:44:56,442 It was kind of great. It was kinda-- it was very cool. 1115 00:44:56,442 --> 00:45:00,345 And I remember the entrance of-- of RoboCop into that scene, 1116 00:45:00,345 --> 00:45:02,214 and how-- how exciting it was. 1117 00:45:04,216 --> 00:45:07,653 To see that character in that full regalia, 1118 00:45:07,653 --> 00:45:10,155 with a gun, was just frightening. 1119 00:45:11,523 --> 00:45:13,225 OFFICER RAMIREZ: Hey, hang on, it's Super Cop. 1120 00:45:13,225 --> 00:45:15,360 Hey, Lewis, it's Super Cop. 1121 00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,129 Look at that fuckin' gun. 1122 00:45:17,129 --> 00:45:19,364 [laughs] 1123 00:45:20,065 --> 00:45:21,533 That fuckin' gun. 1124 00:45:21,533 --> 00:45:23,168 TYREES: That was so cool, 1125 00:45:23,168 --> 00:45:24,069 '‘cause I got to say "fuckin'" on film. 1126 00:45:24,069 --> 00:45:24,770 I thought it was great. 1127 00:45:24,770 --> 00:45:25,471 [Tyrees laughs] 1128 00:45:28,707 --> 00:45:30,242 At first, I was very interested 1129 00:45:30,242 --> 00:45:32,511 in the Israeli Desert Eagle as RoboCop's gun, 1130 00:45:32,511 --> 00:45:34,046 '‘cause that was a new gun. 1131 00:45:34,046 --> 00:45:36,148 But when we saw it with the costume, 1132 00:45:36,148 --> 00:45:37,750 it was like a-- a tiny toy. 1133 00:45:41,086 --> 00:45:42,721 RANDY: And they said my big problem is 1134 00:45:42,721 --> 00:45:45,023 the finger doesn't fit in any triggers. 1135 00:45:45,023 --> 00:45:48,193 And I said, "Well, you know, I have a gun in my car." 1136 00:45:48,193 --> 00:45:51,563 My car gun that I show-- being from Texas, you know, 1137 00:45:51,563 --> 00:45:52,431 we all have car guns. 1138 00:45:53,398 --> 00:45:55,868 I had a Beretta 93R in my vehicle, 1139 00:45:55,868 --> 00:45:58,070 and I showed 'em the extended trigger guard. 1140 00:45:58,070 --> 00:46:01,607 It allowed the RoboCop finger to go in with the glove on. 1141 00:46:02,241 --> 00:46:04,743 At that point, we sat down with the 93R, 1142 00:46:04,743 --> 00:46:07,546 and then Paul Verhoeven and I drew 1143 00:46:07,546 --> 00:46:09,548 what he wanted to see. 1144 00:46:09,548 --> 00:46:11,717 ED: And we sat down one afternoon and we designed that gun. 1145 00:46:11,717 --> 00:46:14,286 And it was one of the most creative moments of my life. 1146 00:46:14,286 --> 00:46:15,754 CLARENCE: Gonna need some major firepower. 1147 00:46:22,394 --> 00:46:26,799 RANDY: They wanted sides. I did the vent rib on the top. 1148 00:46:26,799 --> 00:46:29,935 We were adding texture, so that's why it's thin. 1149 00:46:32,371 --> 00:46:34,239 The object is to make it visually interesting 1150 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:35,407 and to make it also function. 1151 00:46:37,709 --> 00:46:39,545 They were gonna do a lot of lower shots, 1152 00:46:39,545 --> 00:46:41,213 lookin' up, under the gun, and everything. 1153 00:46:41,213 --> 00:46:42,648 And I said, "Well, if we do that, 1154 00:46:42,648 --> 00:46:44,650 we need to put the flame out the side." 1155 00:46:46,251 --> 00:46:49,254 The three ports in the front are to give us the bowtie flame. 1156 00:46:52,057 --> 00:46:54,593 PETER WELLER: So, this is the gun. 1157 00:46:54,593 --> 00:46:58,130 And the first time I fired, it was on that firing range. 1158 00:46:58,130 --> 00:47:00,966 And it was loud. It was really, really loud. 1159 00:47:03,569 --> 00:47:05,971 RANDY: The gun is capable of firing three shot, 1160 00:47:05,971 --> 00:47:07,506 seven shot, or full auto, 1161 00:47:07,506 --> 00:47:08,974 depending on the counting mechanism 1162 00:47:08,974 --> 00:47:10,676 in the side that we put in. 1163 00:47:10,676 --> 00:47:13,445 The standard gun fires three-shot bursts only, 1164 00:47:13,445 --> 00:47:14,446 or semi-auto. 1165 00:47:15,914 --> 00:47:19,484 Semi-automatic, you gotta go, pull the trigger every time. 1166 00:47:19,484 --> 00:47:21,720 The bullet expands the shell. 1167 00:47:23,989 --> 00:47:26,124 On the set, you knew that was a cool gun. 1168 00:47:26,124 --> 00:47:27,893 And I think it's one of the coolest guns there is. 1169 00:47:30,462 --> 00:47:33,432 PAUL VERHOEVEN: My directing was more movement directing. 1170 00:47:33,432 --> 00:47:36,168 It was not about character acting, you know? 1171 00:47:36,168 --> 00:47:37,536 I mean, the character was like, "Bang!" 1172 00:47:37,536 --> 00:47:38,337 [chuckles] 1173 00:47:40,539 --> 00:47:42,774 MARK GOLDBLATT: The reason that they needed a second unit director 1174 00:47:42,774 --> 00:47:45,277 was because Paul was on a very tight schedule. 1175 00:47:45,277 --> 00:47:48,313 So, he had to keep moving, and moving, and moving. 1176 00:47:48,313 --> 00:47:49,715 And then in some of the sequences, 1177 00:47:49,715 --> 00:47:51,950 he couldn't get all the coverage that he wanted. 1178 00:47:51,950 --> 00:47:55,487 So, I shot close-ups of the targets getting shot, 1179 00:47:55,487 --> 00:47:58,357 and different characters reacting to RoboCop. 1180 00:47:59,791 --> 00:48:01,460 PETER WELLER: And when you fire blanks, 1181 00:48:01,460 --> 00:48:04,062 the blank will kill you if you're close to it. 1182 00:48:04,062 --> 00:48:07,299 Full loads are the capacity of powder 1183 00:48:07,299 --> 00:48:09,334 in a nine-mil shell 1184 00:48:09,334 --> 00:48:10,836 that's gonna fire a bullet, right? 1185 00:48:10,836 --> 00:48:12,404 A projectile. 1186 00:48:12,404 --> 00:48:14,640 You gotta put something in there for that compression 1187 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:15,307 to shoot out. 1188 00:48:17,409 --> 00:48:19,144 RANDY: Those blanks, as far as I know, 1189 00:48:19,144 --> 00:48:22,080 are the most powerful blanks ever been used in a movie. 1190 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:26,118 And you pull the trigger, and hold it down. 1191 00:48:29,254 --> 00:48:30,889 It's gonna freak you out, man. 1192 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:36,895 PETER WELLER: And I was like fire one-handed, man. 1193 00:48:36,895 --> 00:48:39,231 I never liked doin' the police stuff, man. 1194 00:48:39,231 --> 00:48:40,866 I like holdin' it here. 1195 00:48:43,735 --> 00:48:44,937 This guy's really good. 1196 00:48:44,937 --> 00:48:46,838 He's not a guy, he's a machine. 1197 00:48:46,838 --> 00:48:48,073 OFFICER MANSON: What are they gonna do? Replace us? 1198 00:48:49,675 --> 00:48:51,877 NANCY: When he does the spinning of the gun, 1199 00:48:51,877 --> 00:48:55,847 and she remembers and recognizes that that's probably him. 1200 00:48:55,847 --> 00:48:57,950 That's someone who really pays attention. 1201 00:48:57,950 --> 00:48:59,618 This is what it says a lot about her. 1202 00:48:59,618 --> 00:49:02,220 She really pays attention. She doesn't miss anything. 1203 00:49:02,220 --> 00:49:03,522 '‘Cause that could be something 1204 00:49:03,522 --> 00:49:04,957 that you could forget in a second. 1205 00:49:04,957 --> 00:49:07,359 But she's very sharp in that way. 1206 00:49:09,728 --> 00:49:12,898 RANDY: Robo team made a leg that sits vertically, 1207 00:49:12,898 --> 00:49:15,033 and it's just to the hip. 1208 00:49:15,033 --> 00:49:18,203 One guys opens the doors with cable operation. 1209 00:49:18,203 --> 00:49:20,872 Another guy makes the holster go out. 1210 00:49:20,872 --> 00:49:23,775 Weapon goes in, holster goes in, doors close. 1211 00:49:28,981 --> 00:49:31,450 One of the many surprises about seeing the movie 1212 00:49:31,450 --> 00:49:33,452 was just the-- the-- you had no idea 1213 00:49:33,452 --> 00:49:34,920 what the sound effects were gonna be. 1214 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,990 Well, back in the days before there was paper 1215 00:49:37,990 --> 00:49:40,959 and people used cuneiform on clay tablets, 1216 00:49:40,959 --> 00:49:42,794 there were things called "VCRs". 1217 00:49:46,431 --> 00:49:48,834 So, Robo mostly was a Betamax. 1218 00:49:51,837 --> 00:49:55,007 And a VHS, VCR. Loading movement. 1219 00:49:57,442 --> 00:50:00,178 And we cut them so that they matched action. 1220 00:50:03,582 --> 00:50:06,985 And when sounds match action, they tell the truth. 1221 00:50:09,187 --> 00:50:12,090 STEPHEN HUNTER: The lead editor on Robo was Dave Whitaker. 1222 00:50:12,090 --> 00:50:14,192 And he even wrote this-- this document. 1223 00:50:14,192 --> 00:50:16,361 It was like a 12-page document "How to cut Robo" 1224 00:50:16,361 --> 00:50:18,296 that had all the numbers of the library 1225 00:50:18,296 --> 00:50:20,365 and all the different servos. 1226 00:50:20,365 --> 00:50:21,933 Little diagrams on, you know, 1227 00:50:21,933 --> 00:50:24,603 the sound of this, and the sound of this. 1228 00:50:24,603 --> 00:50:25,303 And all the little-- 1229 00:50:25,303 --> 00:50:26,371 [whizzes] 1230 00:50:26,371 --> 00:50:28,340 Stuff that they put in post. 1231 00:50:29,674 --> 00:50:32,778 For the whole movie, every little detail just 1232 00:50:32,778 --> 00:50:33,879 really helped to bring him alive. 1233 00:50:38,016 --> 00:50:40,218 STEVE LEE: John P is the mystery man. 1234 00:50:40,218 --> 00:50:42,187 You'd ask him to make something and he'd come back 1235 00:50:42,187 --> 00:50:43,488 with something a couple days later 1236 00:50:43,488 --> 00:50:44,856 that was just absolutely perfect. 1237 00:50:44,856 --> 00:50:46,024 You dropped it into picture and-- 1238 00:50:48,460 --> 00:50:50,195 "Oh, yeah, that's-- that's exactly it." 1239 00:50:52,697 --> 00:50:56,568 He made a lot of sort of cheesy, synthy sweeteners and-- 1240 00:50:56,568 --> 00:50:57,536 And things to accent stuff. 1241 00:51:01,673 --> 00:51:03,642 This is before the digital age, 1242 00:51:03,642 --> 00:51:05,377 and it was all cut on magnetic film. 1243 00:51:06,078 --> 00:51:07,712 STEVE LEE: So, you have hundreds of these reels, 1244 00:51:07,712 --> 00:51:10,749 sitting in a hallway, waiting to be dubbed. 1245 00:51:10,749 --> 00:51:13,885 And it was a glorious sight seeing all these dubbers 1246 00:51:13,885 --> 00:51:17,489 with all these reels of sound going back and forth in sync 1247 00:51:17,489 --> 00:51:19,357 while they dubbed the movie in the theater. 1248 00:51:19,357 --> 00:51:21,226 It's really a monumental job. 1249 00:51:21,226 --> 00:51:24,229 Even though the number crunchers were tryin' to you know, 1250 00:51:24,229 --> 00:51:27,432 "No, we're not spending another dime on this thing", 1251 00:51:27,432 --> 00:51:31,536 Sol Lomita got us another $200,000 or $300,000, 1252 00:51:31,536 --> 00:51:33,338 for the sound effects, 1253 00:51:33,338 --> 00:51:36,108 and it won the Academy Award for sound effects. 1254 00:51:37,409 --> 00:51:39,111 STEPHEN HUNTER: Just being there, 1255 00:51:39,111 --> 00:51:43,949 I felt as if I was walking four feet above the ground. 1256 00:51:43,949 --> 00:51:46,751 And then, when I got home from the Oscars, 1257 00:51:46,751 --> 00:51:49,888 Peter Weller had sent me two dozen yellow roses 1258 00:51:49,888 --> 00:51:50,956 to say "Congratulations." 1259 00:51:55,460 --> 00:51:58,130 Peter is not only a wonderful actor, 1260 00:51:58,130 --> 00:52:00,899 but he's probably one of the most disciplined people 1261 00:52:00,899 --> 00:52:02,734 I've ever met in my life. 1262 00:52:02,734 --> 00:52:06,938 I had to get into that animal. 1263 00:52:06,938 --> 00:52:09,374 And that's a method deal, man. 1264 00:52:09,374 --> 00:52:11,243 I just couldn't walk out in that thing and go, 1265 00:52:11,243 --> 00:52:12,744 "Hey, yeah, I'm Peter." 1266 00:52:12,744 --> 00:52:16,281 So, I talked to no one except the Robo team. 1267 00:52:16,281 --> 00:52:18,083 I listened to no one except Paul. 1268 00:52:18,083 --> 00:52:19,618 That's the guy who'd come up. 1269 00:52:19,618 --> 00:52:22,287 But everybody else was out. 1270 00:52:22,287 --> 00:52:25,423 When he stepped on the set, he was that guy. 1271 00:52:26,458 --> 00:52:29,628 The first day on the set, he announced to everyone, 1272 00:52:29,628 --> 00:52:30,896 "Call me '‘Robo'." 1273 00:52:30,896 --> 00:52:32,464 Robo, excuse me! Robo! 1274 00:52:32,931 --> 00:52:35,834 KURTWOOD: When I first got there, I said, "What's this Peter Weller like?" 1275 00:52:35,834 --> 00:52:37,502 And they said, "Well, I don't know. 1276 00:52:37,502 --> 00:52:40,305 YOU KNOW, I guess he only wants to be called '‘Robo' 1277 00:52:40,305 --> 00:52:41,606 or '‘Murphy'." 1278 00:52:42,807 --> 00:52:43,575 I was like, "What?" 1279 00:52:43,575 --> 00:52:44,242 [chuckles] 1280 00:52:44,809 --> 00:52:45,443 ROBOCOP: Clarence! 1281 00:52:46,278 --> 00:52:48,246 Once I was in there, they called me "Robo", 1282 00:52:48,246 --> 00:52:51,082 and you know, I don't give a fuck about-- 1283 00:52:51,082 --> 00:52:52,450 You know, certain people would come up, 1284 00:52:52,450 --> 00:52:53,652 "Do people call-- really call you "Robo"? 1285 00:52:53,652 --> 00:52:56,988 You go do that in 105 degree heat. 1286 00:52:56,988 --> 00:53:01,259 You prep that for six months, and put on that suit. 1287 00:53:01,259 --> 00:53:04,963 Once I get suit on, tough shit. That's who I am. 1288 00:53:04,963 --> 00:53:06,498 Paul Verhoeven called me "Robo". 1289 00:53:06,498 --> 00:53:08,800 One last rehearsal, please, for Robo. 1290 00:53:09,167 --> 00:53:11,269 When Peter told me that 1291 00:53:11,269 --> 00:53:13,505 when he's in the police suit, I'm Murphy, 1292 00:53:13,505 --> 00:53:15,040 and when I'm in the RoboCop suit, 1293 00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,474 I'm RoboCop , 1294 00:53:16,474 --> 00:53:19,444 I just looked at him and, "Sure." 1295 00:53:19,444 --> 00:53:22,781 And that-- and that irritated him to death. 1296 00:53:22,781 --> 00:53:23,648 [chuckles] 1297 00:53:23,648 --> 00:53:25,283 Don't you have a name? 1298 00:53:25,283 --> 00:53:28,653 So, I just decided that I wouldn't talk to him, 1299 00:53:28,653 --> 00:53:31,556 because uh, I wasn't gonna try to befriendly with some guy 1300 00:53:31,556 --> 00:53:34,326 and be calling him "Robo". 1301 00:53:34,326 --> 00:53:38,496 I clashed, at one point, with almost everybody 1302 00:53:38,496 --> 00:53:39,698 on that movie. 1303 00:53:39,698 --> 00:53:41,967 Clash, but it was a quick clash. 1304 00:53:41,967 --> 00:53:45,136 He was always telling jokes and stories, 1305 00:53:45,136 --> 00:53:46,371 and playing his trumpet, 1306 00:53:46,371 --> 00:53:47,472 which sometimes got on people's nerves. 1307 00:53:49,307 --> 00:53:52,077 He uh, plays a man jazz trumpet, studying Kendo. 1308 00:53:52,077 --> 00:53:54,145 Chases female cyborgs, you know, things like that. 1309 00:53:54,145 --> 00:53:55,247 [chuckle together] 1310 00:53:56,314 --> 00:53:57,415 Is he on this floor? 1311 00:53:57,415 --> 00:53:59,251 [chuckle together] 1312 00:53:59,251 --> 00:54:01,319 No. He-- he's great, he's terrific. 1313 00:54:01,319 --> 00:54:03,688 Fun at parties, hell of a guy. Really. 1314 00:54:03,688 --> 00:54:04,489 Wouldn't you say? 1315 00:54:06,591 --> 00:54:08,693 The working relationship was always good, 1316 00:54:08,693 --> 00:54:10,762 because I think, you know, misery loves company. 1317 00:54:10,762 --> 00:54:13,098 We both were in the same situation 1318 00:54:13,098 --> 00:54:14,666 all day long. 1319 00:54:14,666 --> 00:54:16,935 Both of us just, you know, sittin' there and goin', 1320 00:54:16,935 --> 00:54:18,570 "God, is this hot?", and he said, "Yeah." 1321 00:54:18,570 --> 00:54:19,938 "Is this miserable?" "Yeah." 1322 00:54:20,872 --> 00:54:23,675 PETER WELLER: And there were some difficult times, 1323 00:54:23,675 --> 00:54:24,876 really difficult times. 1324 00:54:25,777 --> 00:54:30,515 PETER WELLER: RoboCop was a-- was an obsessive discipline for me. 1325 00:54:30,515 --> 00:54:34,052 I am the future of law enforcement. 1326 00:54:34,052 --> 00:54:35,120 That says it all, doesn't it? 1327 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:37,122 Thank you, Robo. That's good job. 1328 00:54:37,122 --> 00:54:38,556 Thank you. 1329 00:54:39,958 --> 00:54:41,726 What did I tell ya? Be lookin' for him. 1330 00:54:46,898 --> 00:54:49,267 The first day that we were shooting with the suit, 1331 00:54:49,267 --> 00:54:51,736 we scheduled a very late day. 1332 00:54:51,736 --> 00:54:53,104 -BOB: Reed! SGT. -REED: Yeah. 1333 00:54:53,104 --> 00:54:54,072 BOB: He needs a car. 1334 00:54:54,072 --> 00:54:55,540 And the shot was, 1335 00:54:55,540 --> 00:54:57,542 Peter walks through the police station 1336 00:54:57,542 --> 00:54:59,277 and catches the car keys. 1337 00:54:59,277 --> 00:55:01,079 He's wearing his kinda rubber gloves 1338 00:55:01,079 --> 00:55:02,480 and he-- you know, 1339 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:03,815 he wasn't really supposed to look at it. 1340 00:55:03,815 --> 00:55:05,717 He was supposed to just catch it. 1341 00:55:05,717 --> 00:55:07,819 And the car keys would bounce at him. 1342 00:55:08,953 --> 00:55:09,888 No. 1343 00:55:09,888 --> 00:55:10,722 PAUL VERHOEVEN: Cut. 1344 00:55:10,722 --> 00:55:12,557 We must've shot that 1345 00:55:12,557 --> 00:55:16,294 from 9:00 at night to 1:00 in the morning, 1346 00:55:16,294 --> 00:55:17,896 tryin' to catch the car keys. 1347 00:55:18,830 --> 00:55:19,764 Thank you. 1348 00:55:21,066 --> 00:55:23,234 Sure, anytime. 1349 00:55:23,234 --> 00:55:25,270 It was that kinda show. 1350 00:55:25,270 --> 00:55:26,338 Go get '‘em, boy. 1351 00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:35,280 When I'm driving, 1352 00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:36,848 the Robo team would take the legs off, 1353 00:55:36,848 --> 00:55:39,951 so I could like uh, sit in the car and drive it. 1354 00:55:39,951 --> 00:55:42,320 And yeah, it was me driving most of the time, 1355 00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,522 with Jost shooting this wonderful stuff, 1356 00:55:44,522 --> 00:55:46,024 and Paul's in the backseat saying, 1357 00:55:46,024 --> 00:55:47,792 "Let's drive up here, let's drive up there." 1358 00:55:47,792 --> 00:55:50,595 You know that we spent months, and months, and months 1359 00:55:50,595 --> 00:55:53,131 creating a new police car. 1360 00:55:53,131 --> 00:55:55,433 We built the car for RoboCop , 1361 00:55:55,433 --> 00:55:57,469 but they didn't take into consideration 1362 00:55:57,469 --> 00:56:00,939 that when he got in the car, he would have that suit on. 1363 00:56:00,939 --> 00:56:02,374 And he didn't fit. 1364 00:56:02,374 --> 00:56:04,142 PAUL VERHOEVEN: Of course, it was a disaster. 1365 00:56:04,142 --> 00:56:06,444 So, we then bef-- I abandoned 1366 00:56:06,444 --> 00:56:09,814 all kind of wonderful production design ideas. 1367 00:56:09,814 --> 00:56:11,850 I throw it all out of the window. 1368 00:56:11,850 --> 00:56:13,852 Yeah, there is this kind of strange person, 1369 00:56:13,852 --> 00:56:14,853 but rest is all normal. 1370 00:56:16,621 --> 00:56:18,156 Paul came up with the idea, 1371 00:56:18,156 --> 00:56:21,192 "Okay, a completely rundown police department 1372 00:56:21,192 --> 00:56:25,029 doesn't need to have very nice, wonderful, new, shiny cars. 1373 00:56:25,029 --> 00:56:26,731 No." 1374 00:56:26,731 --> 00:56:28,700 That car, we abandoned that and we used a normal car. 1375 00:56:28,700 --> 00:56:30,668 The new Taurus at that time we used. 1376 00:56:30,668 --> 00:56:31,903 ♪ Taurus ♪ 1377 00:56:31,903 --> 00:56:34,005 ♪ Now, there is a personal car ♪ 1378 00:56:34,005 --> 00:56:37,509 ♪ That has exactly what we've been looking for ♪ 1379 00:56:38,109 --> 00:56:39,978 PAUL VERHOEVEN: It was just in production. 1380 00:56:39,978 --> 00:56:42,380 Looked a little bit modern, so we took that. 1381 00:56:46,351 --> 00:56:48,253 CRAIG: Science fiction, it's very easy for it 1382 00:56:48,253 --> 00:56:50,021 to become sort of enmeshed in a world view 1383 00:56:50,021 --> 00:56:52,757 that's hyperdesigned, hyperfocused, and stuff. 1384 00:56:52,757 --> 00:56:54,025 And what I thought was really cool 1385 00:56:54,025 --> 00:56:55,427 about RoboCop was, 1386 00:56:55,427 --> 00:56:57,162 it really put a lot of that stuff aside 1387 00:56:57,162 --> 00:56:58,396 and just was what it was. 1388 00:57:01,166 --> 00:57:03,568 And I thought that just worked in service of the picture. 1389 00:57:03,568 --> 00:57:05,003 It couldn't have been better 1390 00:57:05,003 --> 00:57:06,004 that these things were just Ford Tauruses 1391 00:57:06,004 --> 00:57:07,172 painted flat black. 1392 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,910 PAUL VERHOEVEN: I remember how important it was for the movie 1393 00:57:11,910 --> 00:57:13,611 that we didn't have so much money. 1394 00:57:13,611 --> 00:57:15,847 Because you come up with solutions 1395 00:57:15,847 --> 00:57:19,451 that are extremely simple and-- and effective. 1396 00:57:19,451 --> 00:57:24,055 It was interesting to see a gleaming, shining robot 1397 00:57:24,055 --> 00:57:28,226 against the crumbling infrastructure of Dallas, 1398 00:57:28,226 --> 00:57:29,861 standing in for Detroit. 1399 00:57:29,861 --> 00:57:32,964 I find that a very interesting juxtaposition of images. 1400 00:57:32,964 --> 00:57:35,867 A lot of RoboCop has reflections, 1401 00:57:35,867 --> 00:57:37,869 and I mean that literally. 1402 00:57:37,869 --> 00:57:40,472 Uh, they polished up the suit with oils, 1403 00:57:40,472 --> 00:57:42,907 and everything around him is just shining. 1404 00:57:42,907 --> 00:57:44,108 And that was intentional. 1405 00:57:44,108 --> 00:57:45,910 And it was Paul's way of saying 1406 00:57:45,910 --> 00:57:50,648 that this was a very steely, cold mechanical world. 1407 00:57:53,284 --> 00:57:55,420 GROCERY MOM: Will there be anything else, sir? 1408 00:57:55,420 --> 00:57:57,422 HOPHEAD: Yeah, empty the register and put the money in the bag. 1409 00:57:57,422 --> 00:57:58,756 We went in that liquor store 1410 00:57:58,756 --> 00:58:00,124 and it was a practical liquor store. 1411 00:58:01,593 --> 00:58:03,495 Hophead enters 1412 00:58:03,495 --> 00:58:06,130 and in passing this nefarious robbery, 1413 00:58:06,130 --> 00:58:09,467 he picks up a copy of uh, a Marvel Comic. 1414 00:58:09,467 --> 00:58:11,636 Strangely, they're all Marvel Comics. 1415 00:58:11,636 --> 00:58:13,271 There's a copy of Blade Runner, 1416 00:58:13,271 --> 00:58:15,940 which was also part of the origins of the script, 1417 00:58:15,940 --> 00:58:19,244 because the film inspired the idea of RoboCop. 1418 00:58:20,245 --> 00:58:22,814 And the issue he picks up is this one, 1419 00:58:22,814 --> 00:58:25,283 which is Iron Man 142, 1420 00:58:25,283 --> 00:58:29,654 and it's where Iron Man displays his new high-tech armor, 1421 00:58:30,922 --> 00:58:32,757 which is of course what RoboCop does 1422 00:58:32,757 --> 00:58:33,958 in the very next scene. 1423 00:58:33,958 --> 00:58:35,493 ...two. 1424 00:58:37,595 --> 00:58:38,997 Fuck me. 1425 00:58:40,365 --> 00:58:42,800 RON: Avram Gold was our dialogue supervisor 1426 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,636 I remember him having a problem with a scene one day, 1427 00:58:44,636 --> 00:58:47,705 and he came in to me, and said, "Ron, there's this scene. 1428 00:58:47,705 --> 00:58:51,876 There's this guy, he goes in, and he shoots up a liquor store, 1429 00:58:51,876 --> 00:58:55,046 and he only says two words, and he just repeats them. 1430 00:58:55,046 --> 00:58:57,181 It's "fuck me, fuck me, fuck me, fuck--" 1431 00:58:57,181 --> 00:59:00,118 Fuck me! Fuck me! Fuck me! 1432 00:59:00,118 --> 00:59:02,287 But you can't use that for the TV version 1433 00:59:02,287 --> 00:59:04,322 or everything else that he has to get ready. 1434 00:59:04,322 --> 00:59:05,957 So, he lookin' for-- "Ron, is there anything else?" 1435 00:59:05,957 --> 00:59:08,359 You know, we had to go through da-- No! 1436 00:59:08,359 --> 00:59:09,827 I never thought of any-- you know, 1437 00:59:09,827 --> 00:59:12,530 shooting anything else for TV, 1438 00:59:12,530 --> 00:59:14,632 or just to have other words in there. 1439 00:59:14,632 --> 00:59:15,967 So, yeah, you know, 1440 00:59:15,967 --> 00:59:17,368 they obviously had to re-- rerecord him. 1441 00:59:19,137 --> 00:59:20,638 Why me? 1442 00:59:21,472 --> 00:59:23,541 Drop the gun. You are under arrest. 1443 00:59:26,344 --> 00:59:27,645 Why me? Why me? 1444 00:59:27,645 --> 00:59:29,480 Why me? Why me? Why me? 1445 00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,049 [chuckles] 1446 00:59:31,049 --> 00:59:32,750 [laughs] 1447 00:59:34,252 --> 00:59:35,520 He's walking around there, 1448 00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,088 shooting at him all over the place. 1449 00:59:37,088 --> 00:59:39,223 Like, "Pop, pop, pop!" I mean, so on. 1450 00:59:39,223 --> 00:59:41,225 And I said to myself, "Well, 1451 00:59:41,225 --> 00:59:43,828 if he's getting shot all over the place, 1452 00:59:43,828 --> 00:59:45,897 we should show some damage on the armor." 1453 00:59:45,897 --> 00:59:47,599 Then Rob said, "No! 1454 00:59:47,599 --> 00:59:50,602 This is like an indestructible sort of like new armor, 1455 00:59:50,602 --> 00:59:53,104 so it shouldn't show too much damage. 1456 00:59:53,104 --> 00:59:54,572 I said, "Oh, okay, I get the picture." 1457 00:59:58,109 --> 01:00:00,378 Paul wanted him to pick up the guy 1458 01:00:00,378 --> 01:00:02,714 And throw him into this thing. 1459 01:00:02,714 --> 01:00:06,351 So, we built this big fridge with breakaway glass, 1460 01:00:06,351 --> 01:00:08,519 candy glass, and breakaway balsa wood. 1461 01:00:13,691 --> 01:00:17,195 It was kicks, baby. Kicks! 1462 01:00:17,195 --> 01:00:19,931 The timing of that, "God, that's great." 1463 01:00:19,931 --> 01:00:23,034 Thank you for your cooperation. Good Night. 1464 01:00:28,473 --> 01:00:30,642 ADAM: I was originally cast to be in RoboCop 1. 1465 01:00:30,642 --> 01:00:33,645 Uh, RoboCop 1 was filmed in Dallas, 1466 01:00:33,645 --> 01:00:35,113 and I was born and raised in Dallas, 1467 01:00:35,113 --> 01:00:37,448 that's where I got my acting career started. 1468 01:00:37,448 --> 01:00:40,218 So, I got a small part in that. 1469 01:00:40,218 --> 01:00:43,221 So, my part was that I'm a little tiny kid 1470 01:00:43,221 --> 01:00:45,623 and I have on like this little army jacket kind of thing, 1471 01:00:45,623 --> 01:00:47,091 and I'm walking around, 1472 01:00:47,091 --> 01:00:48,259 and I'm looking at the guy behind the counter 1473 01:00:48,259 --> 01:00:49,961 and looking at candy bars, 1474 01:00:49,961 --> 01:00:52,664 and so I take a candy bar, and slide it into my jacket. 1475 01:00:52,664 --> 01:00:54,265 That's when the guy comes in 1476 01:00:54,265 --> 01:00:56,267 and starts robbing the liquor store. 1477 01:00:56,267 --> 01:00:58,102 Give me your money. All of it! 1478 01:00:58,102 --> 01:01:01,472 And don't fuck around! Where's the safe, old man? 1479 01:01:01,472 --> 01:01:03,408 We-- we don't have a safe. 1480 01:01:03,408 --> 01:01:05,109 Open the safe, pops, 1481 01:01:05,109 --> 01:01:08,312 or I'm gonna blow junior here all over the candy rack. 1482 01:01:08,312 --> 01:01:10,915 GROCERY POP: Oh, don't hurt the boy. I'll open the safe. 1483 01:01:10,915 --> 01:01:12,850 You're stallin', old man! 1484 01:01:12,850 --> 01:01:15,620 You got the count of three to get that safe open. 1485 01:01:15,620 --> 01:01:17,822 One, two-- 1486 01:01:19,157 --> 01:01:21,092 Drop it. You're under arrest. 1487 01:01:21,092 --> 01:01:22,293 Wow! 1488 01:01:22,293 --> 01:01:23,494 HOPHEAD: Fuck you, cop! 1489 01:01:25,296 --> 01:01:26,831 You're in a lot of trouble. 1490 01:01:27,598 --> 01:01:29,467 Oh, fuck me. 1491 01:01:29,467 --> 01:01:30,134 [yells] 1492 01:01:32,804 --> 01:01:34,639 ADAM: I'm like standin' there, you know, 1493 01:01:34,639 --> 01:01:36,507 lookin' in awe as a child at RoboCop, and he says-- 1494 01:01:36,507 --> 01:01:38,843 Prisoner transport will arrive shortly. 1495 01:01:38,843 --> 01:01:40,611 Thank you for your cooperation. 1496 01:01:40,611 --> 01:01:42,647 Good night, and have a pleasant evening. 1497 01:01:42,647 --> 01:01:44,682 ADAM: Now, I stare at him and watch him walk out the door, 1498 01:01:44,682 --> 01:01:46,384 and so the end of the scene is me, 1499 01:01:46,384 --> 01:01:47,952 like taking the candy bar out of my pocket, 1500 01:01:47,952 --> 01:01:48,820 and putting it on the counter, and saying-- 1501 01:01:48,820 --> 01:01:50,455 "How much for this?" 1502 01:01:50,455 --> 01:01:52,390 That obviously didn't appear in the original movie, 1503 01:01:52,390 --> 01:01:55,059 because Texas child labor laws at the time, 1504 01:01:55,059 --> 01:01:57,528 possibly even now uh, would not let a minor 1505 01:01:57,528 --> 01:01:59,464 stay up and work past midnight, 1506 01:01:59,464 --> 01:02:01,032 and it was, you know, a night scene, 1507 01:02:01,032 --> 01:02:02,567 and the shooting was running long 1508 01:02:02,567 --> 01:02:05,136 based on I don't-- things I wasn't aware of, 1509 01:02:05,136 --> 01:02:07,805 so they just cut that part out of the movie. 1510 01:02:07,805 --> 01:02:09,040 I mean I still got paid and everything, 1511 01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:10,308 '‘cause I did show up, 1512 01:02:10,308 --> 01:02:11,876 but, you know, it-- it was crushing. 1513 01:02:11,876 --> 01:02:13,544 It was like, "Aw, I was really excited 1514 01:02:13,544 --> 01:02:14,412 about doin' this thing. 1515 01:02:14,412 --> 01:02:15,480 It was gonna be fun." 1516 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,849 Shit! He's fucked up. 1517 01:02:17,849 --> 01:02:20,752 Bad language makes for bad feelings. 1518 01:02:21,919 --> 01:02:23,321 ADAM: Long story short, 1519 01:02:23,321 --> 01:02:25,490 the casting director remembered me, 1520 01:02:25,490 --> 01:02:28,126 and so when RoboCop 2 came around, I was cast in that. 1521 01:02:28,426 --> 01:02:29,594 It's Robo! 1522 01:02:33,364 --> 01:02:35,867 [crowd cheering] 1523 01:02:35,867 --> 01:02:37,401 [laugh together] 1524 01:02:37,401 --> 01:02:39,504 I'd buy that for a dollar. 1525 01:02:39,504 --> 01:02:40,438 [laughs] 1526 01:02:44,242 --> 01:02:45,777 I think in some ways as a line 1527 01:02:45,777 --> 01:02:47,545 that captures the spirit of RoboCop , 1528 01:02:47,545 --> 01:02:48,946 "I'd buy that for a dollar" 1529 01:02:48,946 --> 01:02:50,782 is just kind of an amazing little pop line. 1530 01:02:51,616 --> 01:02:53,584 The line that almost is meaningless 1531 01:02:53,584 --> 01:02:54,952 and yet sums it all up. 1532 01:02:55,953 --> 01:02:58,089 I'll buy that for a dollar. 1533 01:02:58,089 --> 01:02:59,524 [laughs] 1534 01:02:59,524 --> 01:03:00,958 I'm S.D. Nemeth 1535 01:03:00,958 --> 01:03:03,594 and I play the part of Bixby Snider. 1536 01:03:03,594 --> 01:03:05,229 This was one of the first, 1537 01:03:05,229 --> 01:03:08,733 if not practically the only role I ever auditioned for 1538 01:03:08,733 --> 01:03:10,401 in which I got cast. 1539 01:03:10,401 --> 01:03:12,270 BIXBY: It's not really the right time right now. 1540 01:03:12,270 --> 01:03:14,806 Maybe you can come back a little later on. 1541 01:03:14,806 --> 01:03:16,107 S.D. NEMETH: For me, it was a gas. 1542 01:03:16,107 --> 01:03:18,776 It was just actually playing myself. 1543 01:03:18,776 --> 01:03:22,613 I had done a character on radio, on KROQ, 1544 01:03:22,613 --> 01:03:24,749 called The Young Marquis. 1545 01:03:24,749 --> 01:03:27,385 THE YOUNG MARQUIS: Me your idol, The Young Marquis. 1546 01:03:27,385 --> 01:03:29,387 [young Marquis chuckling] 1547 01:03:29,387 --> 01:03:30,755 THE YOUNG MARQUIS: Special guest tonight. 1548 01:03:30,755 --> 01:03:32,890 Wow, we've got a whole studio full! 1549 01:03:33,291 --> 01:03:35,092 S.D. NEMETH: Actually, this Bixby Snider part... 1550 01:03:35,092 --> 01:03:37,061 Bixby, who is this? 1551 01:03:37,061 --> 01:03:38,496 Oh, uh... 1552 01:03:38,496 --> 01:03:39,897 S.D. NEMETH: ...was just The Young Marquis. 1553 01:03:39,897 --> 01:03:40,765 THE YOUNG MARQUIS: You mean me! 1554 01:03:40,765 --> 01:03:43,234 [young Marquis laughing] 1555 01:03:43,234 --> 01:03:47,238 Except behind a camera and not just a microphone. 1556 01:03:47,238 --> 01:03:49,907 Uh, well, it's a-- it's a birthday present. 1557 01:03:49,907 --> 01:03:51,475 Uh, um, someone sent me something 1558 01:03:51,475 --> 01:03:53,744 uh, '‘cause it is my birthday. 1559 01:03:53,744 --> 01:03:56,314 Well, look at this. I wonder who could have sent it! 1560 01:03:56,314 --> 01:03:59,016 [babbles] 1561 01:03:59,016 --> 01:04:01,786 When I found out that Paul Verhoeven 1562 01:04:01,786 --> 01:04:04,455 was gonna be the director, I was just tickled pink. 1563 01:04:04,455 --> 01:04:06,490 [laughs] 1564 01:04:06,490 --> 01:04:08,759 S.D. NEMETH: I had rehearsed the scene the night before 1565 01:04:08,759 --> 01:04:10,761 with a tall blonde gal. 1566 01:04:10,761 --> 01:04:12,830 Her name was Heather. 1567 01:04:12,830 --> 01:04:15,833 Happy Birthday, babe. She's from me! 1568 01:04:15,833 --> 01:04:16,601 Oh! 1569 01:04:16,601 --> 01:04:17,969 [laugh together] 1570 01:04:17,969 --> 01:04:19,604 S.D. NEMETH: We got out parts down 1571 01:04:19,604 --> 01:04:22,373 and from then on it was like the Three Stooges. 1572 01:04:22,373 --> 01:04:25,543 Well, hey, can I have you both? 1573 01:04:25,543 --> 01:04:27,845 -Sure, why not? -Sure, why not? 1574 01:04:27,845 --> 01:04:29,146 -We've had our shots. -We've had our shots. 1575 01:04:29,146 --> 01:04:31,349 [laugh together] 1576 01:04:31,349 --> 01:04:33,384 I'd buy that for a dollar. 1577 01:04:33,384 --> 01:04:36,520 [laugh together] 1578 01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,956 I don't know that any of us ever got that 1579 01:04:38,956 --> 01:04:42,460 that was gonna beco-- become an iconic line. 1580 01:04:42,460 --> 01:04:43,461 I'd buy that for a dollar. 1581 01:04:43,461 --> 01:04:44,962 [chuckles] 1582 01:04:44,962 --> 01:04:46,364 It was kind of almost a-- a sort of mystery 1583 01:04:46,364 --> 01:04:48,532 why-- why he was saying it. 1584 01:04:48,532 --> 01:04:51,402 I'd buy that for a dollar. 1585 01:04:51,402 --> 01:04:53,237 Corny, silly. 1586 01:04:53,237 --> 01:04:56,540 It was like-- it was like a-- a bad commercial at that time 1587 01:04:56,540 --> 01:05:00,077 that didn't necessarily appeal to your sense of humor. 1588 01:05:00,077 --> 01:05:01,812 Oh. Oh. 1589 01:05:01,812 --> 01:05:02,847 -Bixby! -Bixby! 1590 01:05:02,847 --> 01:05:04,315 [cheer together] 1591 01:05:04,315 --> 01:05:07,184 We had a massive food fight as I recall. 1592 01:05:07,184 --> 01:05:08,986 Showed up on the set, 1593 01:05:08,986 --> 01:05:12,490 and I've never been plastered with cake and frosting so much. 1594 01:05:12,490 --> 01:05:13,925 [laughs] 1595 01:05:13,925 --> 01:05:17,728 Some of it is now a merciful blur. 1596 01:05:17,728 --> 01:05:18,663 Wow! 1597 01:05:18,663 --> 01:05:19,730 [laughs] 1598 01:05:19,730 --> 01:05:21,666 Wow! Did you see that? 1599 01:05:21,666 --> 01:05:23,034 [laughs] 1600 01:05:23,034 --> 01:05:24,735 I gotta go get a piece of this myself! 1601 01:05:24,735 --> 01:05:27,772 It was a pleasure to work with beautiful young girls. 1602 01:05:27,772 --> 01:05:29,340 Ooh, wow! 1603 01:05:29,340 --> 01:05:31,742 [laughs] 1604 01:05:31,742 --> 01:05:33,044 I'd buy that for a dollar. 1605 01:05:33,044 --> 01:05:34,278 [grunts] 1606 01:05:35,379 --> 01:05:38,049 And with a nice crew, loved it. Loved it. 1607 01:05:38,049 --> 01:05:40,084 [laugh together] 1608 01:05:40,084 --> 01:05:42,553 It was a real gas, let me tell ya. 1609 01:05:42,553 --> 01:05:44,722 BIXBY: I'd buy that for a dollar. 1610 01:05:44,722 --> 01:05:46,090 [Bixby and women laughing] 1611 01:05:51,095 --> 01:05:52,430 DONNA: It was an extremely long night 1612 01:05:52,430 --> 01:05:55,733 and everything just unfolded. 1613 01:05:57,268 --> 01:05:58,936 Paul Verhoeven, he said, 1614 01:05:58,936 --> 01:06:02,039 "Understand that you're a really good girl 1615 01:06:02,039 --> 01:06:05,443 and you foolishly made a really bad mistake 1616 01:06:05,443 --> 01:06:07,945 of walking down this ally, you know, coming home from work. 1617 01:06:07,945 --> 01:06:09,747 And I'm like, "Okay." 1618 01:06:09,747 --> 01:06:11,916 He goes, "And then you're gonna be attacked. 1619 01:06:11,916 --> 01:06:15,052 So, go all out like a good girl would, you know?" 1620 01:06:15,052 --> 01:06:17,221 And I went, "Okay, so basically that means '‘Don't be tough', 1621 01:06:17,221 --> 01:06:17,955 you know?" 1622 01:06:19,056 --> 01:06:20,291 [screams] 1623 01:06:22,393 --> 01:06:26,263 In the movie, I played the Creep. 1624 01:06:26,731 --> 01:06:28,466 Don't touch me! Get away! Get away! 1625 01:06:28,466 --> 01:06:30,401 We don't want your bag! 1626 01:06:30,401 --> 01:06:31,802 We want you! 1627 01:06:31,802 --> 01:06:34,138 Well, first, we have to go back to wardrobe, 1628 01:06:34,138 --> 01:06:37,575 because I chose these stomper boots 1629 01:06:37,575 --> 01:06:40,011 and I couldn't really move. 1630 01:06:40,011 --> 01:06:41,912 And if you can see me, I'm kinda like-- 1631 01:06:41,912 --> 01:06:43,247 you know, I'm... 1632 01:06:43,247 --> 01:06:45,449 [yell together] 1633 01:06:45,449 --> 01:06:47,351 Take it easy! 1634 01:06:47,351 --> 01:06:49,286 SCOTT: #*Unknown actors, like we hope to do various roles 1635 01:06:49,286 --> 01:06:52,590 and it was nice to be in the uh, criminal element. 1636 01:06:52,590 --> 01:06:55,359 And I bleached my hair out, 1637 01:06:55,359 --> 01:06:58,763 but the humidity, it lost its kinda cool spike. 1638 01:06:58,763 --> 01:07:00,031 At the time, my hair looked like that. 1639 01:07:00,031 --> 01:07:01,332 [chuckles] 1640 01:07:01,332 --> 01:07:02,700 Take it easy! We don't wanna hurt you! 1641 01:07:02,700 --> 01:07:04,135 CREEP 2: That's too much hair! 1642 01:07:04,135 --> 01:07:07,038 I bought three wigs in case we needed to uh, 1643 01:07:07,038 --> 01:07:08,506 you know, keep cutting, and keep cutting. 1644 01:07:08,506 --> 01:07:09,940 We'll give her a haircut! 1645 01:07:09,940 --> 01:07:10,641 No! 1646 01:07:10,641 --> 01:07:12,043 [laughs] 1647 01:07:12,043 --> 01:07:13,210 SCOTT: William had a knife. 1648 01:07:13,210 --> 01:07:14,812 He said, "I'm gonna cut her, 1649 01:07:14,812 --> 01:07:16,847 I'm gonna cut her, you know? I'm gonna cut her hair!" 1650 01:07:16,847 --> 01:07:19,316 And then Paul said, "Yeah!" He got inspired. 1651 01:07:19,316 --> 01:07:22,186 He says, "Yeah, now you point to her crotch 1652 01:07:22,186 --> 01:07:25,289 and you say, "There's more hair down there." 1653 01:07:25,289 --> 01:07:29,827 And he laughed maniacally, and I went "Oh, my God." 1654 01:07:29,827 --> 01:07:32,963 I ca-- oh, rea-- uh, really? You-- you want me to say that? 1655 01:07:32,963 --> 01:07:33,631 Uh... 1656 01:07:33,631 --> 01:07:34,565 What? 1657 01:07:34,565 --> 01:07:36,300 There's more hair down there. 1658 01:07:36,300 --> 01:07:39,170 [both laugh] 1659 01:07:39,170 --> 01:07:41,739 SCOTT: It was pretty bold at the time, you know? 1660 01:07:41,739 --> 01:07:43,140 I just remember being a little shocked 1661 01:07:43,140 --> 01:07:44,642 as an actor. 1662 01:07:44,642 --> 01:07:45,843 I was like "Whoa! Okay, we're goin' there." 1663 01:07:46,710 --> 01:07:47,645 [laughs] 1664 01:07:47,645 --> 01:07:49,080 No! 1665 01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,082 PETER WELLER: Paul is now an inspiration. 1666 01:07:51,082 --> 01:07:53,984 '‘Cause the second that I come out of that thing, 1667 01:07:53,984 --> 01:07:57,088 Paul is in seventh gear. No waiting, man. 1668 01:07:57,088 --> 01:07:58,756 I'm in a golf cart, a car, or whatever, man, 1669 01:07:58,756 --> 01:08:00,057 I'm in the thing, I got the guns, 1670 01:08:00,057 --> 01:08:01,725 I'm gonna be ready to go. 1671 01:08:01,725 --> 01:08:03,394 I mean, not a second wasted. 1672 01:08:04,195 --> 01:08:06,530 Him and Jost have gone hit the deck. 1673 01:08:06,530 --> 01:08:10,101 RoboCop as a figure should be bigger than life. 1674 01:08:10,101 --> 01:08:11,368 Higher than life. 1675 01:08:11,368 --> 01:08:13,104 Stronger than life. 1676 01:08:13,104 --> 01:08:15,840 That's all what the mystery of RoboCop is about. 1677 01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,608 Jost was a brilliant guy. 1678 01:08:17,608 --> 01:08:20,344 I mean, he was doing stuff so far ahead of his time. 1679 01:08:21,178 --> 01:08:22,880 The moment where RoboCop is walking up 1680 01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:24,915 to confront the rapists, 1681 01:08:24,915 --> 01:08:28,552 you see his shadow looming, and getting bigger and bigger. 1682 01:08:28,552 --> 01:08:30,554 Well, in reality, his shadow would be getting smaller 1683 01:08:30,554 --> 01:08:32,223 and smaller. 1684 01:08:32,223 --> 01:08:34,525 So, what they did was have RoboCop walk backwards 1685 01:08:34,525 --> 01:08:36,093 in that sequence. 1686 01:08:36,093 --> 01:08:38,362 Nobody thinks twice about it. 1687 01:08:38,362 --> 01:08:41,398 I worked with the camera in a low position, 1688 01:08:41,398 --> 01:08:44,635 so he seems to be higher than he actually is. 1689 01:08:44,635 --> 01:08:47,471 So, I enlarge him, I stretch him a little bit. 1690 01:08:48,772 --> 01:08:52,309 I had an idea for Robo himself, 1691 01:08:52,309 --> 01:08:54,278 that Robo had to have attitude, 1692 01:08:54,278 --> 01:08:56,647 because he-- he became less talkative 1693 01:08:56,647 --> 01:08:58,816 as a character when he became Robo. 1694 01:08:58,816 --> 01:09:01,285 So, we decided we need attitude drones. 1695 01:09:07,458 --> 01:09:08,926 They slightly changed that 1696 01:09:08,926 --> 01:09:10,461 depending on whether he was pissed, 1697 01:09:10,461 --> 01:09:12,229 whether he was relaxed. 1698 01:09:12,229 --> 01:09:15,266 So, it's just another subtle way of moving the story forward. 1699 01:09:15,266 --> 01:09:17,601 Everything you're doing in a film is telling the story, 1700 01:09:17,601 --> 01:09:19,069 and sound effects are no exception. 1701 01:09:19,770 --> 01:09:22,306 Let the woman go. You are under arrest. 1702 01:09:22,306 --> 01:09:22,973 Shit! 1703 01:09:25,276 --> 01:09:28,913 PETER WELLER: Robo doesn't ever say anything with intentionality for humor. 1704 01:09:28,913 --> 01:09:31,515 He just says things from a position 1705 01:09:31,515 --> 01:09:33,584 of intentionality for instruction. 1706 01:09:33,584 --> 01:09:34,585 That's it. 1707 01:09:34,585 --> 01:09:36,620 The intensity of being picked up 1708 01:09:36,620 --> 01:09:39,757 and waiting for that squib to go off between my legs, 1709 01:09:39,757 --> 01:09:40,758 you know? 1710 01:09:40,758 --> 01:09:42,193 And I can remember very clearly, 1711 01:09:42,193 --> 01:09:44,428 he's grabbing me as hard as he can, 1712 01:09:44,428 --> 01:09:46,463 and picking me up, and back, and up and down, 1713 01:09:46,463 --> 01:09:48,399 and we had to make sure we hit this certain height, 1714 01:09:48,399 --> 01:09:51,435 you know, so it looked appropriate to the gun height. 1715 01:09:51,435 --> 01:09:52,636 He's gonna kill her! 1716 01:09:54,305 --> 01:09:56,507 The climactic moment 1717 01:09:56,507 --> 01:09:58,676 where he uh, gets shot in the bullocks. 1718 01:10:00,778 --> 01:10:03,948 [screams] 1719 01:10:03,948 --> 01:10:06,050 JESSE: RoboCop shoots him in the crotch. 1720 01:10:06,050 --> 01:10:07,518 People are like, "Yeah, mother fucker, 1721 01:10:07,518 --> 01:10:09,053 you deserved that shit", you know? 1722 01:10:09,053 --> 01:10:10,621 [laughs] 1723 01:10:10,621 --> 01:10:12,156 Oh, my-- Oh, my God. 1724 01:10:12,156 --> 01:10:13,924 Because I can see the blood squirting out of his-- 1725 01:10:15,859 --> 01:10:16,560 [screams] 1726 01:10:17,861 --> 01:10:19,396 By the way, when I saw that with an audience, 1727 01:10:19,396 --> 01:10:21,165 they-- the audience went crazy. 1728 01:10:21,999 --> 01:10:24,134 [laugh together] 1729 01:10:24,134 --> 01:10:26,003 [screams] 1730 01:10:26,003 --> 01:10:27,638 What they did is 1731 01:10:27,638 --> 01:10:28,739 they took one of those very poor sponges, you know, 1732 01:10:28,739 --> 01:10:30,674 the sea sponge type thing, 1733 01:10:30,674 --> 01:10:32,042 and they soaked it in the blood, 1734 01:10:32,042 --> 01:10:33,644 and then they shoved it in his underwear, 1735 01:10:33,644 --> 01:10:35,646 and scored everything. 1736 01:10:35,646 --> 01:10:39,083 And I remember it going off and dropping, and just going, 1737 01:10:39,083 --> 01:10:40,751 "Oh, my God!" And I was so into it. 1738 01:10:40,751 --> 01:10:43,087 What you see is very real of me backing away, 1739 01:10:43,087 --> 01:10:45,489 going like, "Oh, oh, oh", you know? 1740 01:10:47,925 --> 01:10:49,393 PETER WELLER: Beauty about Robo is 1741 01:10:49,393 --> 01:10:51,161 he's a straight man to the world. 1742 01:10:51,161 --> 01:10:53,831 In other words, Robo just says what's so. 1743 01:10:53,831 --> 01:10:55,532 "Your move, creep." 1744 01:10:55,532 --> 01:10:57,101 Your move, creep. 1745 01:10:58,168 --> 01:10:59,937 PETER WELLER: Bang, you know? 1746 01:10:59,937 --> 01:11:01,872 No explanation, no fat on that, no icing on the cake. 1747 01:11:01,872 --> 01:11:03,073 That's the deal. 1748 01:11:06,510 --> 01:11:10,347 PAUL VERHOEVEN: We all know that Jesus doesn't say much anymore 1749 01:11:10,347 --> 01:11:12,216 after His death. 1750 01:11:12,216 --> 01:11:15,452 And basically, if you look at RoboCop his-- his-- his-- 1751 01:11:15,452 --> 01:11:17,421 The monotony his-- of his voice, 1752 01:11:17,421 --> 01:11:19,790 the simplicity of the lines 1753 01:11:19,790 --> 01:11:23,394 correspond really with somebody that is partially, 1754 01:11:23,394 --> 01:11:24,695 you could say, a zombie. 1755 01:11:24,695 --> 01:11:26,230 [screams] 1756 01:11:26,230 --> 01:11:27,765 Thank God. 1757 01:11:27,765 --> 01:11:29,233 Then the woman runs up and throws her arms around, 1758 01:11:29,233 --> 01:11:31,635 and says "thank you", and you get this moment 1759 01:11:31,635 --> 01:11:34,204 where she realizes he's just a machine, 1760 01:11:34,204 --> 01:11:37,708 and he's very cold, and she has this confusion. 1761 01:11:37,708 --> 01:11:39,977 If you watch the film again, you'll see that moment. 1762 01:11:40,377 --> 01:11:42,980 Madam, you have suffered an emotional shock. 1763 01:11:42,980 --> 01:11:45,482 I will notify a rape crisis center. 1764 01:11:45,482 --> 01:11:47,051 PAUL M. SAMMON: And you know, 1765 01:11:47,051 --> 01:11:48,886 there was no reason to stage it like that, 1766 01:11:48,886 --> 01:11:52,423 but it's a really interesting intimate human emotion 1767 01:11:52,423 --> 01:11:54,325 and reaction. 1768 01:11:54,325 --> 01:11:57,494 I knew no matter what happened commercially to RoboCop , 1769 01:11:57,494 --> 01:12:01,131 that man, we were makin' somethin' 1770 01:12:01,131 --> 01:12:02,566 that was speaking! 1771 01:12:03,067 --> 01:12:11,942 [♪♪♪♪♪] 1772 01:12:41,605 --> 01:12:50,481 [♪♪♪♪♪] 1773 01:16:11,481 --> 01:16:20,390 [♪♪♪♪♪] 1774 01:16:41,511 --> 01:16:50,420 [♪♪♪♪♪] 133999

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