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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:11,445 --> 00:00:13,479 (soft guitar music) 2 00:00:24,724 --> 00:00:27,526 - See that kid in the red shirt? That's me. 3 00:00:31,598 --> 00:00:35,067 Obviously, back then, I had a thing for dancing. 4 00:00:41,075 --> 00:00:44,043 But then, at some point, I'm not sure why... 5 00:00:44,945 --> 00:00:46,278 ...I just stopped. 6 00:00:48,248 --> 00:00:50,149 (techno music) 7 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,454 And now, as an adult, 8 00:00:55,589 --> 00:00:57,456 It flat-out terrifies me. 9 00:01:02,162 --> 00:01:04,429 Recently I became single again, 10 00:01:04,432 --> 00:01:06,965 Which means dating, which means struggling 11 00:01:07,101 --> 00:01:09,134 With the whole social-dancing thing. 12 00:01:11,371 --> 00:01:13,872 But it turns out... I'm not alone. 13 00:01:14,508 --> 00:01:16,308 Dancing is not right. 14 00:01:16,443 --> 00:01:18,577 I'm 6'1" and 300 pounds. 15 00:01:18,712 --> 00:01:21,013 6'1"-300-pound guys shouldn't dance. 16 00:01:24,451 --> 00:01:26,651 - The harder I try to dance... (laughing) 17 00:01:26,654 --> 00:01:28,987 ...It doesn't... It... It makes it worse. 18 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,192 - I have kind of a wave... 19 00:01:34,195 --> 00:01:35,861 Of... Of anxiety. 20 00:01:37,798 --> 00:01:39,664 - I would love to be able to dance, 21 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,868 But I just... Don't think I can. 22 00:01:44,337 --> 00:01:46,337 (whistling) 23 00:01:46,340 --> 00:01:49,675 - The science even has a name for what these people and I have: 24 00:01:49,809 --> 00:01:52,344 Chorophobia, fear of dancing. 25 00:01:54,481 --> 00:01:57,716 What I'm wondering is, why did I stop? 26 00:01:59,686 --> 00:02:02,754 And what's so big about dancing anyway? 27 00:02:02,890 --> 00:02:05,591 I have chorophobia, fear of dancing. 28 00:02:05,725 --> 00:02:07,759 - Yeah. - You think that's strange? 29 00:02:09,229 --> 00:02:10,895 - I mean, yes. 30 00:02:11,031 --> 00:02:12,598 ♪ everybody dance now ♪ 31 00:02:16,236 --> 00:02:17,970 (disco music) 32 00:02:19,239 --> 00:02:21,373 ♪ everybody dance now ♪ 33 00:02:24,778 --> 00:02:26,378 ♪ give me the music ♪ 34 00:02:28,382 --> 00:02:29,982 ♪ give me the music ♪ 35 00:02:32,252 --> 00:02:33,919 ♪ everybody dance now ♪ 36 00:02:40,727 --> 00:02:42,194 ♪ everybody dance now ♪ 37 00:02:44,198 --> 00:02:45,797 ♪ everybody ♪ 38 00:02:45,933 --> 00:02:47,766 ♪ come on let's sweat ♪ 39 00:02:48,468 --> 00:02:50,168 ♪ baby ♪ 40 00:02:50,304 --> 00:02:52,971 ♪ let the music take control ♪ 41 00:02:52,973 --> 00:02:55,073 ♪ let the rhythm move you ♪♪ 42 00:03:28,708 --> 00:03:30,642 - Can you... Pinpoint, 43 00:03:30,777 --> 00:03:33,712 Uh, that single moment when you realized 44 00:03:33,847 --> 00:03:36,248 That you had a fear of dancing? 45 00:03:37,651 --> 00:03:40,318 - I remember going to house parties... 46 00:03:40,321 --> 00:03:44,055 And thinking, um: It's so bright in here. 47 00:03:44,191 --> 00:03:45,724 (laughing) or... 48 00:03:45,859 --> 00:03:48,860 Uh: This isn't quite the music I like. 49 00:03:48,996 --> 00:03:52,330 Or, y'know: This... This stereo isn't right. 50 00:03:52,333 --> 00:03:55,467 Or: I haven't had enough to drink. 51 00:03:56,303 --> 00:04:00,205 That's where I remember that sensitivity coming in. 52 00:04:00,340 --> 00:04:02,340 And that increased 53 00:04:02,476 --> 00:04:04,676 Through my twenties. 54 00:04:04,812 --> 00:04:07,145 Dance is revealing. 55 00:04:07,147 --> 00:04:09,147 I feel like it reveals 56 00:04:09,283 --> 00:04:11,282 My limits and my quirks. 57 00:04:11,285 --> 00:04:14,186 And, y'know, I've had to... 58 00:04:15,155 --> 00:04:16,621 ...Accept that. 59 00:04:16,624 --> 00:04:18,356 Um... 60 00:04:18,492 --> 00:04:20,091 And I... I guess I have, 61 00:04:20,227 --> 00:04:21,559 But I still have... 62 00:04:22,362 --> 00:04:25,230 Uh, y'know, it still creates that threshold, 63 00:04:25,365 --> 00:04:27,699 As I go from that way of thinking 64 00:04:27,701 --> 00:04:29,501 To just doing. 65 00:04:29,503 --> 00:04:32,771 And, yeah, you can't think while you're on a dance floor. 66 00:04:32,906 --> 00:04:35,173 It doesn't... There's no point. 67 00:04:36,410 --> 00:04:38,309 For whole years, 68 00:04:38,312 --> 00:04:41,446 I think I went without dancing at all. 69 00:04:41,581 --> 00:04:44,249 That, to me, in retrospect, I think: 70 00:04:44,385 --> 00:04:48,720 I love dancing so much and, y'know, but how could I... 71 00:04:48,722 --> 00:04:51,723 How could I distance myself from it? 72 00:04:51,859 --> 00:04:54,059 - Actually, I'm having a hard time seeing you. 73 00:04:59,933 --> 00:05:01,633 (soft music) 74 00:05:07,006 --> 00:05:09,741 - My dance anxiety had me thinking 75 00:05:09,876 --> 00:05:13,278 About seeing the same threshold of anxiety 76 00:05:13,413 --> 00:05:15,747 In other aspects of my life. 77 00:05:15,749 --> 00:05:17,349 Like drawing. 78 00:05:19,687 --> 00:05:21,753 Like, the way I'm... 79 00:05:23,357 --> 00:05:25,624 ...Dri-driving the pen. 80 00:05:25,758 --> 00:05:28,293 When I dance, it's the same thing. 81 00:05:28,428 --> 00:05:30,762 You're seeing my body... 82 00:05:30,898 --> 00:05:32,931 Uh, get driven, y'know, 83 00:05:33,066 --> 00:05:34,333 Trying to... 84 00:05:36,169 --> 00:05:37,436 ...Connect. 85 00:05:38,305 --> 00:05:39,771 Uh, this is it. 86 00:05:39,773 --> 00:05:42,774 - So this is your fear-of-dancing graphic. 87 00:05:42,910 --> 00:05:47,044 - Yeah. Here, there's a frenetic nervous line. 88 00:05:47,281 --> 00:05:51,316 And a... A rhythm is starting to develop here. 89 00:05:51,718 --> 00:05:54,018 Then it sort of goes down a rabbit hole. 90 00:05:54,355 --> 00:05:56,955 And then it becomes very, very smooth. 91 00:05:57,924 --> 00:06:00,191 And this is exactly 92 00:06:00,327 --> 00:06:02,694 How I push through the threshold. 93 00:06:09,803 --> 00:06:11,803 (latin music) 94 00:06:12,472 --> 00:06:14,072 - But for some cultures, 95 00:06:14,208 --> 00:06:17,409 The last thing they need is a graphic to explain 96 00:06:17,544 --> 00:06:20,011 How dancing makes them feel. 97 00:06:24,384 --> 00:06:26,484 (up-tempo latin music) 98 00:06:26,620 --> 00:06:28,520 (indistinct chatter) 99 00:06:32,692 --> 00:06:34,625 I'm here to try to figure out, y'know: 100 00:06:34,628 --> 00:06:37,396 What is it I'm supposed to be getting out of dancing? 101 00:06:38,165 --> 00:06:40,565 - Dancing, to me, is a necessity. 102 00:06:40,701 --> 00:06:42,134 (latin music) 103 00:06:44,104 --> 00:06:47,372 I hear music and I automatically have to move. 104 00:06:47,507 --> 00:06:50,241 Dancing is a very important part of, uh... 105 00:06:50,377 --> 00:06:52,644 Of the human artistic expression. 106 00:06:55,783 --> 00:06:58,583 I always, in my shows, say that... 107 00:06:58,719 --> 00:07:02,253 I love to play music, but music is only the vehicle... For what I'm trying to do. 108 00:07:02,389 --> 00:07:06,057 My thing is to communicate love and joy... 109 00:07:06,059 --> 00:07:09,261 And get people to react and dance. 110 00:07:11,665 --> 00:07:14,633 (up-tempo latin music) 111 00:07:19,807 --> 00:07:22,340 - Why do you think that people dance? 112 00:07:22,342 --> 00:07:23,475 - Why? 113 00:07:24,878 --> 00:07:26,745 It's something that's born with you. 114 00:07:33,887 --> 00:07:36,320 You feel that you are just made for that. 115 00:07:36,323 --> 00:07:38,256 (up-tempo latin music) 116 00:07:39,326 --> 00:07:41,893 - Latin culture really thrives on dancing. 117 00:07:45,198 --> 00:07:48,833 It's the foundation of cultural 118 00:07:48,968 --> 00:07:50,569 And social events. 119 00:07:51,971 --> 00:07:54,239 It's engraved in kind of the way that we live. 120 00:07:57,344 --> 00:07:59,044 - Dance is a kind of... 121 00:07:59,178 --> 00:08:00,412 Language. 122 00:08:03,116 --> 00:08:05,517 When I'm sad, I dance super different 123 00:08:05,652 --> 00:08:08,319 The way that I dance when I'm... 124 00:08:08,455 --> 00:08:10,856 Um, happy and... Or angry. 125 00:08:10,990 --> 00:08:13,425 So it's kind of a way to express myself. 126 00:08:15,194 --> 00:08:17,929 - Have you ever heard of chorophobia? 127 00:08:18,932 --> 00:08:21,199 - Chorophobia, um, I've... 128 00:08:21,334 --> 00:08:23,568 I've never heard... I've never heard of it. 129 00:08:27,507 --> 00:08:29,273 - Why do you think people like me 130 00:08:29,409 --> 00:08:31,076 Might have a fear of dancing? 131 00:08:31,210 --> 00:08:34,212 - Because you don't feel comfortable dancing. 132 00:08:34,347 --> 00:08:36,414 - Why do you think I don't feel comfortable? 133 00:08:36,416 --> 00:08:38,149 - Why? Because you say you have chorophobia. 134 00:08:38,284 --> 00:08:40,618 Phobia means that you are afraid to do it. 135 00:08:40,754 --> 00:08:44,089 - Do you think it's because I think other people are judging me? 136 00:08:44,091 --> 00:08:48,093 - Maybe. I mean, you're the one who have to tell me why you have that kind of phobia. 137 00:08:48,227 --> 00:08:49,760 - I wish I could tell you. 138 00:08:49,896 --> 00:08:51,696 (soft music) 139 00:08:51,831 --> 00:08:55,700 Well, I can't say exactly what's wrong with me, but... 140 00:08:55,835 --> 00:08:57,402 What I can tell you 141 00:08:57,537 --> 00:09:00,305 Is that, for someone that's single, 142 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,907 And wants to meet others, 143 00:09:03,043 --> 00:09:06,144 Not dancing really takes you out of the game. 144 00:09:07,380 --> 00:09:09,614 - I have to confess that if you dance with a girl, 145 00:09:09,749 --> 00:09:13,485 You... You are moving forward a little bit fast. 146 00:09:15,322 --> 00:09:16,855 They're gonna love you more. 147 00:09:18,992 --> 00:09:21,493 - But to me and so many others... 148 00:09:21,627 --> 00:09:23,128 (indistinct chatter) 149 00:09:23,130 --> 00:09:25,697 ...There's something not quite right about dancing. 150 00:09:31,004 --> 00:09:35,040 (stephen fry): I hate the slovenly mixture of sexual exhibitionism, 151 00:09:35,042 --> 00:09:38,009 Strutting contempt and repellent narcissism 152 00:09:38,145 --> 00:09:39,744 That it involves. 153 00:09:40,814 --> 00:09:44,482 I hate it when it is formless, meaningless bopping, 154 00:09:44,617 --> 00:09:46,551 And I hate it - if anything, even more - 155 00:09:46,686 --> 00:09:49,955 When it is formal and choreographed into genres 156 00:09:50,089 --> 00:09:53,024 Like ballroom or schooled disco. 157 00:09:55,295 --> 00:09:58,563 I really, really, really hate... 158 00:09:58,698 --> 00:10:00,398 Dancing, 159 00:10:00,533 --> 00:10:03,467 And have not the slightest milligram of envy 160 00:10:03,470 --> 00:10:05,170 For those who can do it - 161 00:10:05,172 --> 00:10:08,640 If there is such a thing as being able to do it. 162 00:10:10,043 --> 00:10:14,645 Those cavortings are so embarrassing and dreadful 163 00:10:14,648 --> 00:10:16,881 As to force my hand to my mouth. 164 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:24,055 - Now, even I, as a fellow chorophobe, 165 00:10:24,057 --> 00:10:27,592 Who hates and fears dancing, 166 00:10:27,727 --> 00:10:29,694 I'm thinking: Is that a little harsh? 167 00:10:30,463 --> 00:10:32,664 - It's very harsh, but it's... 168 00:10:32,799 --> 00:10:35,666 The eyes and the stretch... And the flick of the head, 169 00:10:35,669 --> 00:10:39,070 I just... I-I... Literally, I feel the tears pricking my eyes. 170 00:10:39,205 --> 00:10:43,541 Either for the... For the fun of bopping and... Shaking - 171 00:10:43,677 --> 00:10:46,144 You're shaking your booty - I mean... 172 00:10:46,279 --> 00:10:48,746 Because we haven't even touched embarrassment. 173 00:10:48,882 --> 00:10:52,550 - You don't have any memory that you ever danced as a baby? - Oh, before teenage, yes. 174 00:10:52,685 --> 00:10:56,420 I can remember leaping around, getting hot and hysterical, 175 00:10:56,423 --> 00:10:59,290 Uh, with pass the parcel and musical chairs. 176 00:10:59,292 --> 00:11:01,559 The things you have at children's parties. 177 00:11:01,695 --> 00:11:04,361 - But now, as adults, it's no longer about musical chairs. 178 00:11:04,497 --> 00:11:07,765 - Yes. And that's where people like you and me have to worry, 179 00:11:07,768 --> 00:11:10,635 Because we go to weddings and we go to events 180 00:11:10,770 --> 00:11:14,239 Where there is a dance floor, and we look at it with horror, 181 00:11:14,241 --> 00:11:16,374 And we just hope that... 182 00:11:16,509 --> 00:11:18,242 When people lose inhibition, 183 00:11:18,378 --> 00:11:20,979 They have a habit of pulling you onto the dance floor. 184 00:11:21,114 --> 00:11:22,647 - I hate that. - Exactly. 185 00:11:22,782 --> 00:11:24,381 - That's the thing that drives me crazy. 186 00:11:24,384 --> 00:11:26,751 - They won't listen to you say, "I don't want to!" 187 00:11:26,753 --> 00:11:28,586 (dance music) - come on! Yes! 188 00:11:28,588 --> 00:11:30,588 No, no, no, fuck fear! Come on! 189 00:11:30,724 --> 00:11:33,658 Let's move! Just move! Breathe. 190 00:11:33,793 --> 00:11:35,660 Be free. Feel it. 191 00:11:35,662 --> 00:11:37,462 Feel freedom inside. 192 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,133 - You look very happy. 193 00:11:43,002 --> 00:11:44,536 - Why aren't you? 194 00:11:48,141 --> 00:11:51,276 - Showing up at single dance events like this 195 00:11:51,410 --> 00:11:53,144 Usually leads to two things. 196 00:11:54,313 --> 00:11:56,948 Me looking totally out of place, 197 00:11:57,083 --> 00:12:00,218 And others wondering: What the hell am I doing here? 198 00:12:00,353 --> 00:12:02,753 - You can go in the middle. - Now, I'm embarrassed. 199 00:12:02,756 --> 00:12:06,424 - No, no, stop, stop. It's 'cause you refuse to move. 200 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:08,759 - I don't want to move. - Why? 201 00:12:08,762 --> 00:12:12,030 - I-I really appreciate what you're doing. - No, no, no, no. No. 202 00:12:12,165 --> 00:12:15,500 Okay, look at me. Look, I'm not doing this to bother you. 203 00:12:15,502 --> 00:12:17,969 If I'm bothering you, tell me to go away. 204 00:12:18,104 --> 00:12:21,172 I'm doing this 'cause I want you to enjoy your life. 205 00:12:21,174 --> 00:12:22,840 - I am enjoying my life. 206 00:12:22,843 --> 00:12:26,444 - Dancing is the best thing about my life ever. 207 00:12:26,446 --> 00:12:27,712 Ever. 208 00:12:27,847 --> 00:12:29,580 - I can't believe I'm saying this, 209 00:12:29,716 --> 00:12:32,383 But I'm gonna have to ask you to go away. 210 00:12:39,859 --> 00:12:42,393 (soft music overlapping dance music) 211 00:12:44,263 --> 00:12:45,997 Can't believe I just did that. 212 00:12:51,671 --> 00:12:55,206 How you see me right here, that's the worst of it for me. 213 00:12:57,710 --> 00:13:01,345 Defiance and resentment that's kind of mixed in with this, I dunno, 214 00:13:01,348 --> 00:13:05,283 Overwhelming sense that I've just missed out on something. 215 00:13:06,552 --> 00:13:09,687 That I'm so outside of it, 216 00:13:09,823 --> 00:13:11,923 Whatever that "it" is. 217 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:15,326 (soft music) 218 00:13:16,563 --> 00:13:18,096 Like this woman on the boat, 219 00:13:18,231 --> 00:13:21,833 People don't see chorophobia as a real thing. 220 00:13:21,835 --> 00:13:24,669 And I get it. It seems kind of ridiculous. 221 00:13:25,238 --> 00:13:26,905 Fear of dancing. 222 00:13:29,042 --> 00:13:30,909 (sombre music) 223 00:13:33,646 --> 00:13:35,180 But it is real. 224 00:13:35,314 --> 00:13:37,348 Just like fear of heights is real. 225 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:42,587 The only difference is, 226 00:13:42,722 --> 00:13:45,790 No one would ever think of helping a person with that fear 227 00:13:45,925 --> 00:13:48,326 By dragging them to the edge of a building. 228 00:13:50,997 --> 00:13:53,398 (up-tempo music) 229 00:13:58,938 --> 00:14:01,138 Online, I found tons of experts 230 00:14:01,141 --> 00:14:03,941 That make a living helping people overcome 231 00:14:03,943 --> 00:14:06,010 Whatever fear they have. 232 00:14:06,145 --> 00:14:09,581 But there's only one that specializes in chorophobia. 233 00:14:23,096 --> 00:14:26,163 What do you make of this woman and I on the boat? 234 00:14:26,299 --> 00:14:30,434 - From what I'm seeing of this, she clearly feels the love of that environment, 235 00:14:30,570 --> 00:14:33,438 And would love you to experience that love of that environment, too. 236 00:14:39,546 --> 00:14:42,680 People I work with are people who come to me and they say, 237 00:14:42,682 --> 00:14:44,249 "I really want to dance, 238 00:14:44,383 --> 00:14:46,450 But I have a terrifying fear of it." 239 00:14:46,586 --> 00:14:48,752 It might be somebody saying, 240 00:14:48,755 --> 00:14:51,789 "my central issue is that I would love to dance with my fiancée, 241 00:14:51,925 --> 00:14:53,925 But whenever I do, she laughs at me." 242 00:14:54,060 --> 00:14:55,993 We explore that kind of issue. 243 00:14:55,996 --> 00:14:57,861 Or another woman I've worked with said 244 00:14:57,864 --> 00:15:00,597 That whenever she went into a nightclub and started dancing, 245 00:15:00,733 --> 00:15:02,267 She would sweat profusely 246 00:15:02,401 --> 00:15:04,535 And she didn't want people to see her sweating. 247 00:15:04,537 --> 00:15:06,203 So her question was about the sweating. 248 00:15:06,339 --> 00:15:08,940 If you had 50 people who all had a fear of dancing, 249 00:15:09,075 --> 00:15:12,243 They'd probably have 50 different reasons for why they have a fear of dancing. 250 00:15:15,382 --> 00:15:17,348 - Well, according to the good doctor, 251 00:15:17,350 --> 00:15:19,784 Fear of dancing, for most of us... 252 00:15:22,221 --> 00:15:23,988 ...Starts here... 253 00:15:24,124 --> 00:15:27,224 In a little nightmare we call... 254 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,227 The high-school dance. 255 00:15:33,967 --> 00:15:38,503 - There was that instant feeling that everybody else... Had had a lesson. 256 00:15:38,505 --> 00:15:40,571 They knew what they were doing. 257 00:15:40,707 --> 00:15:42,640 And when I looked at them and... 258 00:15:42,775 --> 00:15:45,376 So they're twisting their body and are their legs moving on the floor, 259 00:15:45,378 --> 00:15:47,312 Or are they just staying still on the floor? 260 00:15:47,446 --> 00:15:48,913 And then the moment I started doing it, 261 00:15:49,048 --> 00:15:50,581 I could sense people laughing at me, 262 00:15:50,583 --> 00:15:52,850 Even if they weren't, I felt they must be. 263 00:15:52,852 --> 00:15:54,986 Because it was a wrong thing to do, 264 00:15:55,121 --> 00:15:56,654 It was utterly unnatural to me. 265 00:15:56,790 --> 00:15:59,557 It just... It just closed me down. 266 00:16:05,665 --> 00:16:08,132 - All I can remember is that... 267 00:16:08,268 --> 00:16:09,934 There I was in grade 9, 268 00:16:10,069 --> 00:16:14,338 Suddenly unable or unwilling to step on the dance floor, 269 00:16:14,341 --> 00:16:19,077 And finding it impossible to ask any girl that I might've liked to join me there. 270 00:16:21,514 --> 00:16:24,882 - Suddenly, dancing becomes about mate selection, 271 00:16:25,018 --> 00:16:26,951 Or about competency issues, 272 00:16:27,086 --> 00:16:29,987 Moving your body in a way that your social group 273 00:16:30,123 --> 00:16:32,489 Find acceptable or unacceptable. 274 00:16:33,159 --> 00:16:36,627 Or it might be a fear of displaying their body, 275 00:16:36,763 --> 00:16:38,296 Which has changed. 276 00:16:38,298 --> 00:16:40,965 Or it might be a fear of the way their body works. 277 00:16:41,100 --> 00:16:44,202 Or it might be a fear of looking "other" somehow. 278 00:16:52,645 --> 00:16:55,179 - When I was 15 or 16, 279 00:16:55,315 --> 00:16:57,782 I was a lot taller than most kids my age. 280 00:17:00,653 --> 00:17:03,888 And I started, like I guess a lot of girls do, 281 00:17:04,023 --> 00:17:08,459 Becoming more self-conscious of my body and my... 282 00:17:08,594 --> 00:17:10,261 Comfort in my own body. 283 00:17:11,798 --> 00:17:14,398 I think it made me feel like I was easier to pinpoint. 284 00:17:14,401 --> 00:17:17,802 Like: "oh! Do you see that tall girl and how bad she is at dancing?" 285 00:17:23,142 --> 00:17:26,344 At my high school, we used to have this thing called the "dance-a-thon", 286 00:17:26,346 --> 00:17:27,745 Where we would dance all night long - 287 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,448 I think it was from 8 p.M. Until 8 a.M. - 288 00:17:30,583 --> 00:17:33,551 And I would do it, because I really liked hanging out with my friends, 289 00:17:33,686 --> 00:17:35,420 And it was the cool thing to do. 290 00:17:36,089 --> 00:17:38,022 I would drink lots of water, 291 00:17:38,157 --> 00:17:40,624 Take millions of trips to the bathroom, 292 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,827 But I would never... Dance. 293 00:17:45,364 --> 00:17:47,598 Around that time, my parents noticed 294 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,334 That I was becoming more self-conscious, 295 00:17:50,336 --> 00:17:53,838 And they decided to sign me up for a teenage modelling course. 296 00:17:55,908 --> 00:17:58,776 My parents were there, being very supportive and lovely. 297 00:17:58,911 --> 00:18:01,879 They brought their camcorder and videoed it. 298 00:18:03,316 --> 00:18:06,517 I actually knew one of the girls that was doing the modelling class. 299 00:18:06,519 --> 00:18:08,920 Very tall, very thin, very beautiful. 300 00:18:10,389 --> 00:18:12,490 And watching her walk, 301 00:18:12,625 --> 00:18:16,193 And know how to hold her body and her poise and her confidence, I mean, 302 00:18:16,329 --> 00:18:20,198 I feel like I just stuck out like a... Sore thumb. 303 00:18:22,401 --> 00:18:24,635 And I think that's me in the shadow... 304 00:18:26,538 --> 00:18:28,139 ...About to have my turn. 305 00:18:29,008 --> 00:18:30,341 Yeah. Oh. 306 00:18:31,678 --> 00:18:32,877 Oh. 307 00:18:45,091 --> 00:18:47,158 Oh, I feel so sad for me. 308 00:18:54,167 --> 00:18:57,401 - Why? - I just look so uncomfortable. 309 00:18:59,372 --> 00:19:01,272 I'm, like: I don't want to be there. 310 00:19:02,241 --> 00:19:04,375 The way I'm holding my hands. 311 00:19:10,583 --> 00:19:12,583 - What would you tell your younger self? 312 00:19:15,588 --> 00:19:18,156 - I think I'd give her a hug and say, "don't worry." 313 00:19:29,869 --> 00:19:33,404 This is kind of where I just stopped... Dancing. 314 00:19:38,544 --> 00:19:40,311 (music) 315 00:19:43,049 --> 00:19:44,748 - When the dance starts, 316 00:19:44,884 --> 00:19:47,552 You cannot think of what you do. 317 00:19:51,557 --> 00:19:54,158 You get that feel of the goose bumps coming up your body. 318 00:19:56,896 --> 00:20:00,131 It's almost like an out-of-body experience. 319 00:20:05,171 --> 00:20:06,703 I'm originally from ukraine. 320 00:20:07,707 --> 00:20:11,609 I am teaching ballroom dancing and I was in competing ballroom dancing in the past. 321 00:20:16,849 --> 00:20:18,749 - I see a lot of trophies in this room. 322 00:20:18,751 --> 00:20:20,585 Are a lot of those yours? 323 00:20:20,719 --> 00:20:22,653 - Uh, some of them are and, uh, 324 00:20:22,655 --> 00:20:25,323 Yes, quite a few of them mine. Yes. 325 00:20:28,428 --> 00:20:30,928 The floaty feel and being... 326 00:20:31,063 --> 00:20:32,930 In the moment, 327 00:20:32,932 --> 00:20:34,999 It's very meditative in a way. 328 00:20:37,870 --> 00:20:42,173 Not to think about the steps and be able to dance and express. 329 00:20:45,078 --> 00:20:47,278 - Do you know what a chorophobe is? 330 00:20:48,214 --> 00:20:50,080 - I haven't heard that one. 331 00:20:50,216 --> 00:20:53,150 - A chorophobe is somebody that has a fear of dancing. 332 00:20:53,152 --> 00:20:55,286 - Mm. How interesting. 333 00:20:59,758 --> 00:21:02,293 I think that the fact that people are afraid of dance 334 00:21:02,428 --> 00:21:05,630 Is just because they're not capable of doing it. 335 00:21:05,764 --> 00:21:09,834 So if you get the right instructor that introduce it right away, 336 00:21:09,968 --> 00:21:13,037 Gentle form, that can be overcome. 337 00:21:16,509 --> 00:21:19,710 - The problem with going to a dance class... 338 00:21:19,712 --> 00:21:22,313 Is that you're going to a dance class. 339 00:21:23,182 --> 00:21:26,250 - I do agree that when come into the dance studio, 340 00:21:26,385 --> 00:21:28,185 You're being very vulnerable. 341 00:21:28,187 --> 00:21:30,855 Um, you expose yourself. First of all, 342 00:21:30,989 --> 00:21:34,258 Because you are gonna be dancing with a strange person, 343 00:21:34,393 --> 00:21:36,927 Who is an instructor in your case, 344 00:21:37,063 --> 00:21:39,330 Unless you bring someone else with you. 345 00:21:39,465 --> 00:21:42,166 So facilitating that transition... 346 00:21:43,135 --> 00:21:44,869 ...Uh, could be crucial. 347 00:21:44,871 --> 00:21:48,739 We could have more phobias with dance 348 00:21:48,741 --> 00:21:50,674 If we don't, um, 349 00:21:50,677 --> 00:21:52,576 Introduce the dance the right way. 350 00:21:54,681 --> 00:21:56,613 - The reality is, 351 00:21:56,749 --> 00:22:00,150 No matter how talented and sensitive the dance teacher is, 352 00:22:00,286 --> 00:22:02,687 It's still one person too many. 353 00:22:06,759 --> 00:22:10,227 The ideal would be a classroom with... 354 00:22:10,229 --> 00:22:11,562 No one in it. 355 00:22:13,632 --> 00:22:15,365 And these guys here, 356 00:22:15,368 --> 00:22:17,234 They're actually making that happen. 357 00:22:17,370 --> 00:22:19,236 - Now step to the right. 358 00:22:19,238 --> 00:22:21,906 - So if we need to adjust this, I'll go ahead and then tape it. 359 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,407 Go ahead and pull it over. 360 00:22:27,946 --> 00:22:29,579 - Oh, boy. (chuckling) 361 00:22:29,582 --> 00:22:32,449 - So do you see the controllers in front of you? 362 00:22:32,452 --> 00:22:34,251 - Um... (indistinct chatter) 363 00:22:34,387 --> 00:22:36,887 Thank god I stopped doing acid a long time ago. 364 00:22:38,124 --> 00:22:39,523 - Hopefully you get the experience 365 00:22:39,525 --> 00:22:42,326 Of being in a flesh-and-blood dance studio 366 00:22:42,461 --> 00:22:46,062 Without having the anxiety to actually have to walk through the doors. 367 00:22:46,799 --> 00:22:49,099 - You want to use your finger and press down here, 368 00:22:49,235 --> 00:22:51,669 And then swing your hand; keep it pressed while you swing. 369 00:22:53,673 --> 00:22:55,172 So you'll virtually walk. 370 00:22:56,808 --> 00:22:59,643 You'll see a ramp, and I want you to go up the ramp. 371 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,747 That's how you'll get to the studio. 372 00:23:02,881 --> 00:23:05,615 - My favourite part is walking. Can I just... 373 00:23:05,618 --> 00:23:07,885 I don't have a fear of walking. 374 00:23:08,020 --> 00:23:09,920 - Funny enough, dancing becomes 375 00:23:10,055 --> 00:23:13,424 What your body wants to do naturally, like walking, fairly fast. 376 00:23:13,559 --> 00:23:15,759 It's all about relaxing into dance. 377 00:23:16,562 --> 00:23:18,963 - So this is gonna be your classroom. 378 00:23:19,097 --> 00:23:20,564 - Alright. 379 00:23:20,699 --> 00:23:23,167 - Face the teacher. - Is that her? - Yes. 380 00:23:25,138 --> 00:23:26,636 Walk in front of her? 381 00:23:26,639 --> 00:23:28,406 - In front of her. Okay. - Mm-hmm. 382 00:23:31,410 --> 00:23:33,978 - She's trying to pull me on the dance floor. 383 00:23:34,112 --> 00:23:36,046 - I know-- - she's a little close, though. 384 00:23:36,048 --> 00:23:38,716 - She's got your hand. - That's a little close. 385 00:23:38,851 --> 00:23:42,185 - Some people, they have a fear of being this close to somebody and looking them in the face. 386 00:23:42,321 --> 00:23:44,588 So now you have a chance to do that in vr. 387 00:23:44,723 --> 00:23:47,525 - Exactly. Looking in... In the face. But, uh, okay. 388 00:23:47,659 --> 00:23:50,461 - She's kind of tall, right? - Yeah, a little bit. 389 00:23:50,596 --> 00:23:54,064 - Well, she's in heels. - Yeah, she's got, like, four-inch stilettos. 390 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,799 (laughter) 391 00:23:57,035 --> 00:24:00,270 I think she's being very... Yeah, she's getting a little impatient, but... 392 00:24:00,406 --> 00:24:01,805 (laughter) but I-I... 393 00:24:01,941 --> 00:24:03,607 I'm just worried she's just gonna leave, 394 00:24:03,609 --> 00:24:05,675 'cause that's usually what happens. (laughter) 395 00:24:05,678 --> 00:24:08,345 - No, she will not go anywhere, we programmed her not to. - Okay. 396 00:24:09,548 --> 00:24:12,950 - Hi. Welcome to your first salsa lesson. Ready? 397 00:24:13,085 --> 00:24:14,885 Here we go. 398 00:24:15,021 --> 00:24:17,154 One, two, three... 399 00:24:17,289 --> 00:24:19,556 Five, six, seven. 400 00:24:19,692 --> 00:24:23,461 One, two, three, five, six, seven. 401 00:24:24,497 --> 00:24:26,931 Good. (music) 402 00:24:38,578 --> 00:24:40,511 - He's actually now doing salsa. 403 00:24:41,647 --> 00:24:44,047 - Am I really? - Yeah. You really are. 404 00:24:44,183 --> 00:24:46,984 - It's funny, 'cause it just feels like I'm just rocking back and forth. 405 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,453 - That's exactly how it's supposed to feel. 406 00:24:49,588 --> 00:24:52,523 - And, for me, that might be the problem. 407 00:24:52,525 --> 00:24:54,257 I can learn the steps, 408 00:24:54,260 --> 00:24:56,593 But it just... It just feels like... 409 00:24:56,729 --> 00:24:59,129 I'm kind of just going through the motions. 410 00:24:59,265 --> 00:25:01,198 I don't get any joy from it. 411 00:25:01,934 --> 00:25:04,001 Y'know, in that moment, 412 00:25:04,136 --> 00:25:06,437 I might as well be doing my taxes. 413 00:25:12,378 --> 00:25:15,346 But maybe that's because some of us are too focused 414 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,350 On, y'know, the external, physical aspect of dancing. 415 00:25:20,619 --> 00:25:22,419 The performance. 416 00:25:22,554 --> 00:25:25,189 Maybe we just have to go deeper than that. 417 00:25:25,958 --> 00:25:27,758 (percussive music) 418 00:25:32,431 --> 00:25:34,632 (singing in native language) 419 00:25:35,768 --> 00:25:37,501 - Dance, from an indigenous perspective, 420 00:25:37,636 --> 00:25:40,037 It's more an expression of the spirit 421 00:25:40,172 --> 00:25:42,973 That is exercised through the physical body. 422 00:25:44,576 --> 00:25:46,844 There's no... Sexualized... 423 00:25:46,979 --> 00:25:49,179 Behaviours of any kind. 424 00:25:51,250 --> 00:25:53,584 It really is a discovery of yourself. 425 00:25:55,587 --> 00:25:59,189 Some indigenous individuals who are born and raised in urban settings 426 00:25:59,325 --> 00:26:01,592 Have no connection to their first nations. 427 00:26:04,863 --> 00:26:07,664 I teach my students to reconnect 428 00:26:07,666 --> 00:26:09,433 Through pow wow dancing. 429 00:26:11,337 --> 00:26:13,136 Dance is one of those very - 430 00:26:13,272 --> 00:26:15,406 In my opinion - crucial components 431 00:26:15,408 --> 00:26:18,542 That define a person within their culture. 432 00:26:20,212 --> 00:26:22,212 It's a very profound experience. 433 00:26:26,418 --> 00:26:29,486 - I am cree from moose factory. 434 00:26:35,027 --> 00:26:37,695 - When I first came to the city, I was 16. 435 00:26:40,399 --> 00:26:42,232 You can get, you know, 436 00:26:42,234 --> 00:26:45,269 Kind of swallowed up by the city, 437 00:26:45,404 --> 00:26:48,405 Because there's so much temptation and distractions, 438 00:26:50,709 --> 00:26:54,044 For a very long time, I was very disconnected. 439 00:26:55,247 --> 00:26:57,247 I'm just starting to... Y'know, 440 00:26:57,382 --> 00:26:59,416 Look more into my culture. 441 00:27:03,355 --> 00:27:06,823 - How many cones have you put on your dress this time so far? 442 00:27:06,959 --> 00:27:09,660 - Uh, close to 500? - That's a lot. - Yeah. 443 00:27:09,795 --> 00:27:12,395 - What I've done is, I've created a program 444 00:27:12,531 --> 00:27:14,264 That teaches individuals 445 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,067 The various different stages of regalia-making... 446 00:27:17,870 --> 00:27:19,603 ...For powwow dancing. 447 00:27:20,539 --> 00:27:23,273 We're going to put the row cones at the bottom, 448 00:27:23,408 --> 00:27:26,543 Followed by a row of this fringe 449 00:27:26,679 --> 00:27:28,078 On top of the cones. 450 00:27:29,682 --> 00:27:33,416 - I chose this class because when I go to a pow wow, 451 00:27:33,419 --> 00:27:36,687 I am just overcome with, like, emotion, 452 00:27:36,822 --> 00:27:40,090 And I want to get over that. 453 00:27:40,092 --> 00:27:43,359 Like, I want to feel like I'm a part of it, 454 00:27:43,362 --> 00:27:45,663 Instead of just someone that is visiting it. 455 00:27:47,566 --> 00:27:50,968 - Oftentimes, students go to a first nation up north 456 00:27:51,102 --> 00:27:54,538 To dance for the very first time in the circle. 457 00:27:55,774 --> 00:27:58,709 And sometimes they will be hesitant 458 00:27:58,711 --> 00:28:00,244 To complete their outfits, 459 00:28:00,246 --> 00:28:02,112 Because once they've completed the regalia, 460 00:28:02,114 --> 00:28:05,182 Then there's this anxiety, this understanding that: 461 00:28:05,317 --> 00:28:08,051 Oh, my goodness, you're on to the next step. 462 00:28:08,187 --> 00:28:10,654 Now I have to go dance. I don't want to go dance. 463 00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:14,158 Not knowing if - and I've heard this term before - 464 00:28:15,061 --> 00:28:17,528 If I'm... "indian enough." 465 00:28:19,998 --> 00:28:21,732 - If I, like, don't do the steps right, 466 00:28:21,867 --> 00:28:23,600 There's where I feel like I'll be judged. 467 00:28:26,538 --> 00:28:29,273 - So it becomes that cycle of, like... 468 00:28:29,407 --> 00:28:32,009 "what do I do now?" right? So... 469 00:28:32,144 --> 00:28:35,112 - Cycle of fear. - It's the cycle of fear, yeah. 470 00:28:46,091 --> 00:28:48,358 - This fear of dancing... 471 00:28:49,361 --> 00:28:50,827 ...It's real. 472 00:28:50,830 --> 00:28:53,630 But it's also kind of... Irrational. 473 00:28:53,632 --> 00:28:55,832 Who cares what others think? 474 00:28:55,834 --> 00:28:59,369 I mean, what's the worst thing that can happen, 475 00:28:59,505 --> 00:29:02,438 If you just go out there and do your thing? 476 00:29:02,574 --> 00:29:04,308 (classical music) 477 00:29:05,644 --> 00:29:07,177 Well, there's this. 478 00:29:15,821 --> 00:29:17,921 - I decided to tell the story 479 00:29:18,057 --> 00:29:21,391 Of one of the most fascinatingly bizarre events in recorded human history. 480 00:29:25,664 --> 00:29:28,932 It was in one of strasbourg's narrow medieval streets, 481 00:29:29,067 --> 00:29:32,269 Like this one, that it seems to have begun. 482 00:29:33,005 --> 00:29:36,273 It began with one woman, frau troffea. 483 00:29:37,509 --> 00:29:40,844 One day in the middle of July, in 1518, 484 00:29:40,846 --> 00:29:44,681 She steps outside of her house and then she begins dancing. 485 00:29:44,817 --> 00:29:46,850 (classical music) 486 00:29:46,852 --> 00:29:49,786 She dances all the way through that day, 487 00:29:49,922 --> 00:29:52,289 Rests at night; the next morning, 488 00:29:52,424 --> 00:29:55,926 She resumes, and she does this day after day. 489 00:29:57,696 --> 00:30:01,231 Her feet would've been bleeding, they would've been lacerated, 490 00:30:01,233 --> 00:30:03,233 And yet she carries on and on. 491 00:30:05,004 --> 00:30:07,671 It's quite clear that this is an involuntary dance. 492 00:30:09,074 --> 00:30:12,242 Very rapidly, they start arriving at the conclusion 493 00:30:12,244 --> 00:30:14,578 That she's been cursed or possessed. 494 00:30:18,050 --> 00:30:21,451 Within about a week, more people have been consumed 495 00:30:21,586 --> 00:30:24,154 By this same irresistible urge to dance. 496 00:30:26,658 --> 00:30:30,059 This is a really intensive dancing. 497 00:30:30,062 --> 00:30:32,529 They just go on and on, hour after hour. 498 00:30:32,664 --> 00:30:35,265 And you could imagine what a diabolical, 499 00:30:35,267 --> 00:30:37,167 Bizarre spectacle this is creating. 500 00:30:43,275 --> 00:30:46,276 Now, the chronicles disagree on how many people, 501 00:30:46,278 --> 00:30:49,179 But it's likely that as many as 400 people, 502 00:30:49,315 --> 00:30:50,947 By the end of July, 503 00:30:50,950 --> 00:30:54,685 Had been drawn into this irresistible urge to dance. 504 00:30:55,754 --> 00:30:57,988 That is when people started dying. 505 00:31:02,761 --> 00:31:04,428 We don't know how many died. 506 00:31:05,631 --> 00:31:06,997 Speculations vary. 507 00:31:08,300 --> 00:31:10,033 One report we have, written by a merchant, 508 00:31:10,168 --> 00:31:13,303 Who's living outside strasbourg at exactly this time, 509 00:31:13,305 --> 00:31:15,105 Says 15 people a day. 510 00:31:18,110 --> 00:31:21,444 - What's your theory on what lead to this strange event? 511 00:31:22,314 --> 00:31:25,315 - In my belief, there's only one theory that really fits the facts. 512 00:31:25,317 --> 00:31:29,720 This is an extreme example of what we might call mass hysteria... 513 00:31:34,526 --> 00:31:38,662 - When I looked up the definition of mass hysteria, 514 00:31:38,797 --> 00:31:42,131 It said: "a condition in which a large group of people 515 00:31:42,134 --> 00:31:45,002 Exhibit similar feelings and actions." 516 00:31:47,172 --> 00:31:48,906 Including excitement. 517 00:31:51,209 --> 00:31:54,244 Which could explain my childhood dancing. 518 00:31:56,949 --> 00:31:59,750 The environment may have contributed to that, right? 519 00:31:59,884 --> 00:32:02,419 - Yeah. - The environment is really important, no? 520 00:32:02,554 --> 00:32:04,421 - You used to love dancing and engaging with your family 521 00:32:04,556 --> 00:32:06,689 And boogying around when you were a very small child. 522 00:32:06,692 --> 00:32:09,893 - Yeah. - Having said that, I do wonder what would happen... 523 00:32:10,029 --> 00:32:11,494 It's an interesting philosophical question. 524 00:32:11,497 --> 00:32:14,164 If somebody was brought up in complete isolation, 525 00:32:14,299 --> 00:32:17,968 Whether they would then still have that urge to dance. 526 00:32:18,103 --> 00:32:21,505 - You know, the dancing that I was doing at parties at home 527 00:32:21,507 --> 00:32:24,173 Were a lot about showing off, in a way. 528 00:32:24,176 --> 00:32:27,311 - Yeah. - It's like I wanted to be part of the family. 529 00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:31,848 And they would applaud, they would applaud wildly, 530 00:32:31,850 --> 00:32:33,750 And it was very gratifying. 531 00:32:33,752 --> 00:32:35,952 - Yeah, and that's very powerful. 532 00:32:35,954 --> 00:32:39,656 - But when you get to the high-school situation, there's no more applause. 533 00:32:39,792 --> 00:32:41,458 - Yeah. - It's the opposite, right? 534 00:32:41,460 --> 00:32:43,527 - It's the complete opposite, yeah, because suddenly, 535 00:32:43,529 --> 00:32:45,796 People aren't necessarily supportive of you doing it. 536 00:32:45,930 --> 00:32:48,998 It suddenly becomes about being in the cool gang, 537 00:32:49,001 --> 00:32:50,801 Not being in the cool gang. 538 00:32:52,070 --> 00:32:54,271 - By the time I reached grade 11... 539 00:32:54,940 --> 00:32:56,873 ...Something had changed. 540 00:32:57,008 --> 00:32:59,008 (heavy rock music) 541 00:32:59,011 --> 00:33:00,510 My attitude. 542 00:33:01,513 --> 00:33:03,013 My lifestyle. 543 00:33:05,250 --> 00:33:07,884 I started going to class less and less. 544 00:33:08,019 --> 00:33:09,219 It was just too boring. 545 00:33:10,756 --> 00:33:13,090 Eventually, I dropped out altogether 546 00:33:13,092 --> 00:33:16,460 To front a band called barbaric fantasy. 547 00:33:17,763 --> 00:33:19,429 It was all about partying. 548 00:33:20,565 --> 00:33:22,299 I became a stereotype. 549 00:33:23,769 --> 00:33:25,568 The dropout metal-head stoner 550 00:33:25,704 --> 00:33:28,238 That's just too cool to dance. 551 00:33:31,709 --> 00:33:33,176 (rock music stops) 552 00:33:34,179 --> 00:33:38,448 But then again, the world of dance is just full of stereotypes. 553 00:33:41,353 --> 00:33:43,120 (soft music) 554 00:33:56,401 --> 00:33:57,901 - Black girls who can't dance. 555 00:33:58,036 --> 00:33:59,735 Black girls who won't dance. 556 00:33:59,871 --> 00:34:02,339 Black girls who pop lock. 557 00:34:02,474 --> 00:34:04,408 Black girls who clap hands. 558 00:34:04,542 --> 00:34:06,876 ♪ black girls who got groove ♪ 559 00:34:07,012 --> 00:34:09,112 ♪ black girls who got moves ♪ 560 00:34:09,114 --> 00:34:11,114 ♪ black girls who dance hard ♪ 561 00:34:11,250 --> 00:34:13,082 ♪ black girls who cry hard ♪ 562 00:34:13,085 --> 00:34:15,151 ♪ oh ooh she can't dance ♪ 563 00:34:15,154 --> 00:34:17,554 ♪ ooh she just can't dance ♪ 564 00:34:17,689 --> 00:34:19,222 ♪ ooh she can't dance ♪ 565 00:34:19,357 --> 00:34:21,424 ♪ ooh she just cannot dance ♪ 566 00:34:21,427 --> 00:34:23,626 ♪ black girls who read books ♪ 567 00:34:23,762 --> 00:34:26,229 ♪ black girls who write books ♪ 568 00:34:26,364 --> 00:34:29,933 I wrote a song called black girls who can't dance. 569 00:34:31,369 --> 00:34:33,437 The message is that... 570 00:34:33,571 --> 00:34:35,304 Black women... 571 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,273 Are dynamic 572 00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:40,644 And all... Kinds of people and... 573 00:34:40,778 --> 00:34:43,112 Some are gonna love to dance and some aren't. 574 00:34:43,115 --> 00:34:45,848 ♪ look at her funny but she don't see don't care ♪ 575 00:34:45,984 --> 00:34:48,184 ♪ don't stop don't look down till we get there ♪ 576 00:34:48,187 --> 00:34:50,387 ♪ black girls you can't see ♪ 577 00:34:50,522 --> 00:34:52,656 ♪ black girls you can't be ♪ 578 00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:54,657 ♪ black girls who grow up ♪ 579 00:34:54,793 --> 00:34:56,526 ♪ black girls who get free ♪ 580 00:34:56,528 --> 00:34:58,261 ♪ oh ooh she can't dance ♪ 581 00:34:58,396 --> 00:35:02,666 I grew up as the only black girl in the classroom, 582 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,335 One of very few in my school. 583 00:35:05,470 --> 00:35:08,738 I didn't dance as a child. I was really shy. 584 00:35:09,208 --> 00:35:12,409 I don't think there are any good dancers in my family. 585 00:35:12,543 --> 00:35:15,211 The expectation for, uh... 586 00:35:15,214 --> 00:35:17,147 For black folks and black women 587 00:35:17,282 --> 00:35:19,883 Is to be a particular kind of dancer, 588 00:35:20,018 --> 00:35:22,485 And to be good in a certain way. 589 00:35:22,621 --> 00:35:25,154 And I'm just not the person that, you know, 590 00:35:25,157 --> 00:35:28,358 Someone's gonna see in the... In a club and say, "wow. 591 00:35:28,493 --> 00:35:30,093 You're a good dancer." 592 00:35:30,228 --> 00:35:33,029 ♪ oh ooh she can't dance ooh she just can't dance ♪ 593 00:35:33,164 --> 00:35:35,298 ♪ ooh she can't dance ♪ 594 00:35:35,433 --> 00:35:39,102 - Do you feel judged for that at public events? - Yes. 595 00:35:39,237 --> 00:35:40,870 It happened to me recently. 596 00:35:41,006 --> 00:35:43,306 Everyone was, you know, around me and... 597 00:35:43,441 --> 00:35:46,176 And sort of, like: "come on, dance." 598 00:35:46,311 --> 00:35:48,712 And I just didn't. I couldn't, you know, 599 00:35:48,714 --> 00:35:50,147 Because it's just... 600 00:35:51,716 --> 00:35:53,249 It's just not... 601 00:35:53,385 --> 00:35:55,919 There is an expectation in their mind, 602 00:35:56,054 --> 00:35:58,655 And... And it's not me and, um... 603 00:35:58,790 --> 00:36:00,923 And, you know, I... 604 00:36:00,926 --> 00:36:02,926 I just... I can't do it. 605 00:36:03,061 --> 00:36:05,194 ♪ no matter how hard I try ♪ 606 00:36:05,197 --> 00:36:08,798 ♪ I never was what they expected ♪ 607 00:36:10,268 --> 00:36:12,602 ♪ never not at all... ♪ 608 00:36:14,339 --> 00:36:17,607 ♪ I never fit into their boxes ♪ 609 00:36:17,743 --> 00:36:20,243 ♪ they were just too small ♪ 610 00:36:20,378 --> 00:36:22,612 ♪ oh oh oh ♪ 611 00:36:22,614 --> 00:36:25,415 I want to dance even when it's uncomfortable. 612 00:36:27,419 --> 00:36:30,220 And I want to let... Go. 613 00:36:30,355 --> 00:36:32,088 ♪ ooh she can't dance ♪ 614 00:36:32,223 --> 00:36:34,491 ♪ ooh she just can't dance ♪ 615 00:36:34,626 --> 00:36:36,793 ♪ ooh she can't dance ooh... ♪ 616 00:36:36,928 --> 00:36:38,527 And I'll just keep trying. 617 00:36:39,231 --> 00:36:42,165 And maybe it'll become easier to do. 618 00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:45,635 ♪ she just can't dance ooh she can't dance ♪ 619 00:36:45,770 --> 00:36:47,637 ♪ ooh she just cannot dance ♪ 620 00:36:47,773 --> 00:36:49,739 ♪ ooh she can't dance ♪ 621 00:36:49,874 --> 00:36:52,041 ♪ ooh she just can't dance ♪ 622 00:36:52,177 --> 00:36:54,110 ♪ ooh she can't dance ♪ 623 00:36:54,112 --> 00:36:56,846 ♪ ooh she just cannot dance ♪ 624 00:36:56,981 --> 00:36:58,281 ♪ she can't dance ♪ 625 00:36:58,417 --> 00:37:00,684 ♪ oh she just can't dance ♪ 626 00:37:00,818 --> 00:37:02,285 ♪ ooh she can't dance ♪ 627 00:37:02,420 --> 00:37:05,521 ♪ ooh she just cannot dance ♪♪ 628 00:37:06,824 --> 00:37:10,593 - The desire for some to keep trying to connect with dancing 629 00:37:10,596 --> 00:37:13,463 Almost seems like a... A powerful human drive. 630 00:37:13,598 --> 00:37:15,332 (trilling) 631 00:37:17,669 --> 00:37:19,602 Sure, animals dance, 632 00:37:19,738 --> 00:37:23,006 But the idea is that they basically do it to attract a mate. 633 00:37:27,012 --> 00:37:29,812 And we do, too, but as far as we know, 634 00:37:29,948 --> 00:37:31,781 We humans, 635 00:37:31,783 --> 00:37:34,984 We may be the only species in the universe 636 00:37:34,986 --> 00:37:37,020 To actually dance for pure pleasure. 637 00:37:40,292 --> 00:37:42,492 - Dance is a fundamental human activity. 638 00:37:43,895 --> 00:37:46,295 Everything from our heartbeat to the way our brain works, 639 00:37:46,298 --> 00:37:48,164 The way that our limbs work, 640 00:37:48,166 --> 00:37:52,669 That rhythm we have in our life is dance. 641 00:38:00,778 --> 00:38:04,647 - But if dancing is really just a human thing, 642 00:38:04,782 --> 00:38:06,349 How do you explain this? 643 00:38:11,923 --> 00:38:13,790 - If you think about what it means 644 00:38:13,925 --> 00:38:16,059 For something to be living, 645 00:38:16,194 --> 00:38:18,561 It goes back to the idea of it moving. 646 00:38:19,364 --> 00:38:23,132 This is aristotle. He says basically something that self-propels itself 647 00:38:23,135 --> 00:38:25,268 Is what we can call something that's living. 648 00:38:26,338 --> 00:38:28,371 So that doesn't mean it's just biological. 649 00:38:28,373 --> 00:38:30,140 It can also be... Completely artificial. 650 00:38:31,343 --> 00:38:32,876 - What's totem doing now? 651 00:38:33,010 --> 00:38:35,478 - Yeah, so right now, it's running like a... 652 00:38:35,613 --> 00:38:39,415 Neural model, so you actually see these things as like neurons bursting. 653 00:38:39,551 --> 00:38:42,719 It's actually a mathematical model of consciousness in many ways. 654 00:38:46,791 --> 00:38:48,891 Totem is a kind of artificial entity 655 00:38:49,027 --> 00:38:51,895 That has cameras that look at... 656 00:38:51,897 --> 00:38:54,397 The change of movement around it. 657 00:38:57,502 --> 00:38:59,702 And every time you move, it detects changes-- 658 00:38:59,704 --> 00:39:01,170 - So it's interacting with movement. 659 00:39:01,306 --> 00:39:03,239 - It's interacting with movement in that way. 660 00:39:03,975 --> 00:39:06,776 - So it's essentially dancing with those around it. 661 00:39:06,778 --> 00:39:08,645 - Yeah. 662 00:39:08,780 --> 00:39:10,447 - So if you're trying to replicate humans in a machine... 663 00:39:10,449 --> 00:39:12,915 - Of course. - ...It makes sense that you teach it to dance. 664 00:39:13,051 --> 00:39:14,417 - Of course. Absolutely. 665 00:39:15,787 --> 00:39:17,387 - I'm no expert, 666 00:39:17,522 --> 00:39:20,390 But it seems that interacting with the environment 667 00:39:20,525 --> 00:39:22,125 Is exactly what dancing is. 668 00:39:23,795 --> 00:39:25,661 It's just that in totem's case, 669 00:39:25,797 --> 00:39:27,863 He doesn't look human, 670 00:39:27,866 --> 00:39:29,966 And his dancing certainly doesn't. 671 00:39:33,405 --> 00:39:35,138 But this here, 672 00:39:35,140 --> 00:39:36,606 That's a different story. 673 00:39:40,945 --> 00:39:43,113 Who or what is alter? 674 00:39:44,449 --> 00:39:46,149 - He's a new species, 675 00:39:46,284 --> 00:39:47,784 New artificial species. 676 00:39:50,488 --> 00:39:54,424 - What makes alter special is that he's armed 677 00:39:54,426 --> 00:39:56,693 With a battery of motion sensors 678 00:39:56,828 --> 00:39:58,428 And facial-recognition cameras, 679 00:39:58,430 --> 00:40:00,163 Which means he can adapt 680 00:40:00,298 --> 00:40:01,798 To whatever dance partner. 681 00:40:04,403 --> 00:40:06,969 Why teach a robot to improvise dance? 682 00:40:07,105 --> 00:40:10,173 - Well, because we don't want robots to mimic something 683 00:40:10,308 --> 00:40:12,208 Which human beings do. 684 00:40:12,343 --> 00:40:16,112 We need something that's coming from embodiment of himself, right? 685 00:40:18,183 --> 00:40:20,450 This authentic movement from alter 686 00:40:20,452 --> 00:40:22,018 Is his own one. 687 00:40:23,254 --> 00:40:24,920 It's his invention, not us. 688 00:40:24,923 --> 00:40:27,023 That's something that we want to see. 689 00:40:29,194 --> 00:40:32,995 - Do you think you're ever gonna get to a point where you can teach a robot 690 00:40:33,131 --> 00:40:35,498 To want to dance and they like to dance? 691 00:40:36,801 --> 00:40:39,202 - If the robot can have a metacognition, 692 00:40:39,204 --> 00:40:41,504 Or a metafeeling, then that's possible. 693 00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,614 - So, eventually, alter may have legs... 694 00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:53,483 And be able to fully dance. 695 00:40:53,485 --> 00:40:55,818 - Yeah. - And if alter fully dances, 696 00:40:55,820 --> 00:40:57,653 It will be original dancing. 697 00:40:57,656 --> 00:41:00,289 - Right. Right. - As unique as a fingerprint. - Yeah. 698 00:41:00,425 --> 00:41:01,858 This is the ultimate goal. 699 00:41:05,964 --> 00:41:07,564 - It's not lost on me 700 00:41:07,566 --> 00:41:11,300 That if robots suddenly start to love to dance, 701 00:41:11,303 --> 00:41:15,038 That will actually make them more human than me. 702 00:41:21,913 --> 00:41:25,014 But then... Maybe one day, 703 00:41:25,149 --> 00:41:27,317 They too will go to high school. 704 00:41:30,255 --> 00:41:31,921 And wake up asking themselves: 705 00:41:33,258 --> 00:41:34,891 Where did that love go? 706 00:41:45,403 --> 00:41:47,504 And did I ever really have it? 707 00:41:52,744 --> 00:41:54,610 And if I did, 708 00:41:54,746 --> 00:41:56,479 Where did it begin? 709 00:42:02,454 --> 00:42:04,988 Where does dancing begin? 710 00:42:10,829 --> 00:42:13,629 - I observed that one-year-old children 711 00:42:13,632 --> 00:42:16,566 Would very often spontaneously move to music. 712 00:42:16,701 --> 00:42:19,736 And that's really where the idea started. 713 00:42:29,447 --> 00:42:31,947 Infants offer a fantastic opportunity to study 714 00:42:31,950 --> 00:42:34,583 What might be there from the start, 715 00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:39,155 What might perhaps even be... Hardwired or inborn. 716 00:42:40,392 --> 00:42:41,857 Because, you know, 717 00:42:41,859 --> 00:42:43,859 With a two- or three-year-old child, 718 00:42:43,995 --> 00:42:45,928 You don't know anymore. Is it learned? 719 00:42:45,931 --> 00:42:49,265 Did they observe it in their parents or in their environment? 720 00:42:49,267 --> 00:42:51,901 But with four-, five-month-old infants, that's unlikely. 721 00:42:57,876 --> 00:42:59,609 Okay, ready? 722 00:42:59,611 --> 00:43:01,511 One, two, three. 723 00:43:02,414 --> 00:43:04,480 (music to the safety dance playing) 724 00:43:11,956 --> 00:43:13,823 ♪ we can dance if we want to ♪ 725 00:43:13,825 --> 00:43:16,025 ♪ we can leave your friends behind ♪ 726 00:43:16,027 --> 00:43:18,961 ♪ 'cause your friends don't dance and if they don't dance ♪ 727 00:43:19,097 --> 00:43:20,963 ♪ well they're are no friends of mine ♪ 728 00:43:21,099 --> 00:43:23,799 ♪ I say we can go where we want to ♪ 729 00:43:23,935 --> 00:43:25,702 ♪ a place where they will never find ♪ 730 00:43:25,704 --> 00:43:28,705 ♪ and we can act like we come from out of this world ♪ 731 00:43:28,707 --> 00:43:31,240 ♪ leave the real one far behind and we can dance ♪ 732 00:43:31,242 --> 00:43:33,242 Dansez! 733 00:43:33,378 --> 00:43:35,978 Obviously, we didn't want the parents to influence the baby' behaviour, 734 00:43:36,114 --> 00:43:37,780 So the parents could not hear the music. 735 00:43:37,782 --> 00:43:39,849 They were just there to hold the baby. 736 00:43:39,984 --> 00:43:43,819 ♪ ah we can go when we want to the night is young and so am I ♪ 737 00:43:43,955 --> 00:43:46,989 ♪ and we can dress real neat from our hats to our feet ♪ 738 00:43:47,124 --> 00:43:49,058 ♪ and surprise 'em with the victory cry ♪ 739 00:43:49,060 --> 00:43:50,993 We looked at the baby's behaviour 740 00:43:50,995 --> 00:43:54,464 And the coding when they produced rhythmic behaviours. 741 00:43:54,598 --> 00:43:56,732 ♪ you can act real rude and totally removed 742 00:43:56,868 --> 00:43:58,735 ♪ and I can act like an imbecile ♪ 743 00:43:58,737 --> 00:44:01,337 And we had a three-dimensional motion-tracking system 744 00:44:01,473 --> 00:44:04,340 That allows you to match, or map, 745 00:44:04,476 --> 00:44:07,009 The time of the baby's movements 746 00:44:07,145 --> 00:44:10,212 On the musical time with the greatest precision. 747 00:44:10,348 --> 00:44:12,148 And so that's really where we could say: 748 00:44:12,283 --> 00:44:15,418 Are they in time with music? Are they not in time with music? 749 00:44:15,553 --> 00:44:18,488 ♪ everybody's taking a chance a-a-ance ♪ 750 00:44:18,622 --> 00:44:20,256 We had a range. 751 00:44:22,527 --> 00:44:24,226 When you could, in a sense, say: 752 00:44:24,362 --> 00:44:25,962 Some were good and some were bad. 753 00:44:27,899 --> 00:44:31,000 The least successful was a baby that wouldn't do anything. 754 00:44:34,572 --> 00:44:36,972 ♪ oh it's the safety dance ♪♪ (song fading) 755 00:44:37,108 --> 00:44:38,974 In most cases, they actually did react. 756 00:44:38,976 --> 00:44:41,244 And I think that was the first big surprise. 757 00:44:41,378 --> 00:44:44,447 I mean, the babies, they were not told what to do. 758 00:44:44,582 --> 00:44:47,049 They were just played this music and then spontaneously, 759 00:44:47,185 --> 00:44:49,385 They would start to move to the music. 760 00:44:49,521 --> 00:44:51,688 (mid-tempo music) 761 00:45:06,270 --> 00:45:10,106 - Do you remember anything about being in that experiment? - No, I don't. 762 00:45:13,077 --> 00:45:14,577 My eyes just... 763 00:45:15,346 --> 00:45:17,112 And I was reaching for you. 764 00:45:17,115 --> 00:45:19,215 - I just remember the woman asked me 765 00:45:19,350 --> 00:45:22,085 Not to interfere with my face, 766 00:45:22,219 --> 00:45:24,687 So I must stay like this, not to interact. 767 00:45:24,822 --> 00:45:26,456 It was very difficult for me. 768 00:45:30,428 --> 00:45:32,895 (chuckling) (speaking french) 769 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,106 - When we told him that he was involved 770 00:45:44,241 --> 00:45:45,775 In a movie years ago, he asked: 771 00:45:45,777 --> 00:45:47,977 "what? You made money out of me, 772 00:45:47,979 --> 00:45:50,413 And you never told me?" so... (laughter) 773 00:45:53,317 --> 00:45:55,918 - That's... Pretty much in time. It's, uh... 774 00:45:56,054 --> 00:45:59,588 It's amazing, you know, given your very young age. 775 00:45:59,591 --> 00:46:02,525 And... And that is very expressive. 776 00:46:04,062 --> 00:46:06,929 You got if not the highest, one of the highest, 777 00:46:07,065 --> 00:46:09,932 Because it was so original, this hand movement, you know? 778 00:46:10,868 --> 00:46:13,335 - What is your relationship with dancing today? 779 00:46:13,471 --> 00:46:16,472 - Well, when I was in my... Teenage time, 780 00:46:16,608 --> 00:46:20,810 I was not as cool about dancing as I actually am. 781 00:46:21,813 --> 00:46:24,146 - Do you remember what caused you to suddenly think 782 00:46:24,282 --> 00:46:26,015 It was cool to dance? 783 00:46:26,150 --> 00:46:30,553 - Well, I don't care as much as I did about the... 784 00:46:30,555 --> 00:46:32,522 What the others will think about me. 785 00:46:34,425 --> 00:46:38,027 - She was not moving as much as other babies, 786 00:46:38,162 --> 00:46:42,031 But, zélie, you were in between, uh, listening to the music 787 00:46:42,166 --> 00:46:45,901 And being curious about what you were hearing, and at the same time, 788 00:46:46,037 --> 00:46:48,437 Feeling some sort of urge to move with it. 789 00:46:48,573 --> 00:46:49,872 So, like, both. 790 00:46:50,842 --> 00:46:52,508 - Do you dance now? 791 00:46:53,043 --> 00:46:55,244 - I don't really dance in front of people, 792 00:46:55,380 --> 00:46:58,514 Because I feel stupid, I feel like my movements are weird, 793 00:46:58,650 --> 00:47:01,217 And sometimes I can be self-conscious about it. 794 00:47:02,253 --> 00:47:04,253 - These are all different movements. 795 00:47:04,388 --> 00:47:06,255 They don't repeat. 796 00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:09,458 There is no indication there that there is anything... Uh, you know, 797 00:47:09,593 --> 00:47:11,127 Kind of aligning with the music. 798 00:47:28,012 --> 00:47:30,279 - The take-away for me on all that research 799 00:47:30,414 --> 00:47:33,616 Is that if there is such a thing as a dancing gene, 800 00:47:33,751 --> 00:47:36,619 Maybe not all of us get it. 801 00:47:36,621 --> 00:47:39,488 And like these teens and myself, 802 00:47:39,624 --> 00:47:43,292 Whether or not you're wild for dancing when you're really young 803 00:47:43,294 --> 00:47:47,396 Doesn't mean you still will or won't be when you grow up. 804 00:47:48,198 --> 00:47:51,934 Which just shows how complicated this whole thing is. 805 00:48:03,915 --> 00:48:06,715 No one can say for sure 806 00:48:06,851 --> 00:48:09,018 When dancing started on this planet. 807 00:48:09,153 --> 00:48:12,121 Some say as long as 30,000 years ago... 808 00:48:13,558 --> 00:48:17,526 ...In the heart of the world's most ancient civilizations. 809 00:48:25,002 --> 00:48:27,637 When I first decided to come here, 810 00:48:27,771 --> 00:48:31,673 I was told africa's full of cultures steeped in dancing. 811 00:48:31,809 --> 00:48:34,210 (up-tempo music) 812 00:48:34,212 --> 00:48:37,179 It's woven into the very fabric of their traditions. 813 00:48:41,352 --> 00:48:44,420 You're never gonna find a chorophobe there. 814 00:48:46,557 --> 00:48:48,190 And they were right. 815 00:48:49,159 --> 00:48:50,459 I found two. 816 00:49:43,814 --> 00:49:45,748 (up-tempo music) 817 00:51:44,935 --> 00:51:47,269 - What would you do with that kind of a gift? 818 00:51:54,879 --> 00:51:56,612 (singing) 819 00:52:17,701 --> 00:52:19,768 (indistinct chatter) 820 00:52:20,571 --> 00:52:22,538 (laughter) 821 00:52:24,641 --> 00:52:26,408 - Do your kids dance? - Yes. 822 00:52:26,543 --> 00:52:28,244 Are you ready? 823 00:52:28,378 --> 00:52:30,179 - Yes. - What's it called again? 824 00:52:30,181 --> 00:52:32,448 - A million dreams. - A million dreams. 825 00:52:32,583 --> 00:52:34,450 - No, a bizillion dreams. 826 00:52:34,452 --> 00:52:36,619 - A bizillion dreams? Okay. (laughing) 827 00:52:37,788 --> 00:52:39,655 (indistinct chatter) 828 00:52:42,092 --> 00:52:44,593 I definitely do not want 829 00:52:44,728 --> 00:52:48,097 To pass my fear of dancing along to them. 830 00:52:48,232 --> 00:52:50,799 ♪ a million dreams ♪ 831 00:52:50,934 --> 00:52:53,169 And they love to dance... 832 00:52:53,303 --> 00:52:55,638 In a way that I admire. 833 00:52:56,474 --> 00:52:58,941 And wish that I could emulate. 834 00:52:59,877 --> 00:53:01,544 Bravo! Bravo! 835 00:53:01,678 --> 00:53:04,880 - Thank you! (indistinct chatter) 836 00:53:05,016 --> 00:53:07,550 - How about your husband? Does he like to dance? 837 00:53:07,684 --> 00:53:11,086 (laughing) - he maybe hates dancing more than I do. 838 00:53:11,688 --> 00:53:13,689 - What did you guys do for your wedding? 839 00:53:13,691 --> 00:53:16,759 - I couldn't imagine how you could have a wedding without a dance. 840 00:53:16,761 --> 00:53:19,595 - So what did you wind up doing? - We ended up eloping. 841 00:53:23,033 --> 00:53:25,634 - Why do you hate dancing so much? 842 00:53:25,769 --> 00:53:28,571 - Yeah, I think it's something that I just never really felt. 843 00:53:28,705 --> 00:53:31,106 Like, I've never felt compelled to it. 844 00:53:31,241 --> 00:53:34,977 Music doesn't... Uh, cause me to want to dance. 845 00:53:35,112 --> 00:53:36,779 Um... And, y'know, frankly, 846 00:53:36,913 --> 00:53:40,249 Looking at 95% of the people who do dance, I... 847 00:53:40,384 --> 00:53:42,718 Would prefer not to look like that. 848 00:53:43,253 --> 00:53:45,788 - Is that one of the reasons why you guys got together? 849 00:53:45,922 --> 00:53:47,790 - Yeah, that's why. That was the only thing. 850 00:53:47,924 --> 00:53:50,659 That's why I married him, so I wouldn't have to dance. 851 00:53:50,794 --> 00:53:52,661 (indistinct chatter) 852 00:53:55,866 --> 00:54:00,002 - If you have kids, it's easy, because there's no expectation that you're going to be... 853 00:54:00,137 --> 00:54:02,204 Dancing all night because you're chasing children around, 854 00:54:02,340 --> 00:54:06,475 Putting them to bed or you're leaving at 8:00 or whatever it is anyway. 855 00:54:06,477 --> 00:54:08,010 - Please don't drop the pie. 856 00:54:08,145 --> 00:54:10,145 - So the fringe benefit of having kids 857 00:54:10,281 --> 00:54:12,815 Is that it gives you an out for dancing. 858 00:54:12,949 --> 00:54:14,683 - It's the only reason I had them. 859 00:54:15,819 --> 00:54:17,619 (indistinct chatter) 860 00:54:17,621 --> 00:54:19,621 - ..Bring too much stuff? 861 00:54:19,757 --> 00:54:22,223 - So have you given up altogether on the idea 862 00:54:22,359 --> 00:54:25,894 Of dancing at weddings or at clubs with the rest of your friends? 863 00:54:25,896 --> 00:54:27,529 - I think so. 864 00:54:27,664 --> 00:54:29,965 I think even if someone taught me how, 865 00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:33,569 I don't... I don't think now, at this age, I could... I could do it. 866 00:54:33,704 --> 00:54:37,238 - Okay, are we good? - Just a few more bags. - Oh, my god. 867 00:54:37,374 --> 00:54:40,241 - And yet now you're telling me that once a year, 868 00:54:40,377 --> 00:54:41,943 You do, in your own way, 869 00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:43,778 Get your groove on. 870 00:54:43,781 --> 00:54:46,114 - Yes. (chuckling) 871 00:54:46,250 --> 00:54:48,017 Everyone good? Everyone has shoes? 872 00:54:50,654 --> 00:54:54,723 - And we have to drive an hour and a half out of town to get there. 873 00:54:54,725 --> 00:54:56,392 - Yeah. 874 00:55:15,145 --> 00:55:17,579 - Turns out eric's also found a way 875 00:55:17,715 --> 00:55:20,149 To deal with his fear of dancing. 876 00:55:22,820 --> 00:55:26,488 - I remember walking home and just being so excited 877 00:55:26,490 --> 00:55:28,223 That I had discovered this thing. 878 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,495 That comfort zone and that unconscious state, 879 00:55:33,497 --> 00:55:34,963 And that, uh... 880 00:55:36,500 --> 00:55:38,367 ...Y'know, enjoyment. 881 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,841 A couple friends and I have been running this weekly event, 882 00:55:45,976 --> 00:55:48,377 And it's a fairly radical idea. 883 00:55:51,915 --> 00:55:53,782 - For me, it's kind of cathartic, 884 00:55:53,784 --> 00:55:56,185 Almost like a therapy, 885 00:55:56,187 --> 00:55:58,920 'cause you don't care about what other people are doing when you're doing it, 886 00:55:59,056 --> 00:56:01,657 And you don't care about how you look to other people. 887 00:56:04,194 --> 00:56:06,295 - You kind of get into your own head space. 888 00:56:08,331 --> 00:56:10,799 And it's just how your body is responding to the music. 889 00:56:14,004 --> 00:56:15,737 - In this basement, 890 00:56:15,739 --> 00:56:17,940 Eric and other chorophobes have found a way 891 00:56:18,074 --> 00:56:20,476 To get back into dancing. 892 00:56:20,478 --> 00:56:22,211 (rock music) 893 00:56:22,679 --> 00:56:24,279 In total darkness. 894 00:56:26,083 --> 00:56:28,350 (rock music) 895 00:56:34,624 --> 00:56:37,025 - Darkness is such an equalizer. 896 00:56:39,763 --> 00:56:43,232 - With the lights off, it's no longer a visual event. 897 00:56:45,035 --> 00:56:48,237 It takes on, you know, more abstract meaning. 898 00:56:51,174 --> 00:56:52,907 - You're unable to perceive others, 899 00:56:52,910 --> 00:56:54,710 And you're not being perceived. 900 00:56:57,380 --> 00:56:59,581 (rock music) 901 00:56:59,716 --> 00:57:03,018 - The first couple of songs, I was, like: This is very weird. 902 00:57:04,921 --> 00:57:07,922 - When I first walked in, I didn't realize how dark it was gonna be. 903 00:57:08,526 --> 00:57:12,461 I thought I was dancing next to someone, but I wasn't. It was a table. 904 00:57:12,596 --> 00:57:14,263 (rock music) 905 00:57:25,809 --> 00:57:27,609 - I struggle a lot with anxiety, 906 00:57:27,744 --> 00:57:29,611 So I think coming here... 907 00:57:29,746 --> 00:57:33,148 Is a way that I can do something social 908 00:57:33,283 --> 00:57:35,651 That doesn't involve words. 909 00:57:40,290 --> 00:57:42,958 - The dark dance is the first time 910 00:57:43,093 --> 00:57:45,961 I've danced regularly in any capacity. 911 00:57:56,907 --> 00:57:58,740 (music fading) 912 00:58:02,846 --> 00:58:04,580 - With this pow wow you're going to, 913 00:58:04,714 --> 00:58:07,783 How long has it been since you've been back up north? 914 00:58:07,785 --> 00:58:09,318 - At least, like, 20 years. 915 00:58:12,656 --> 00:58:15,324 When I was younger, I was placed in foster care. 916 00:58:15,993 --> 00:58:18,126 I was, like, in... Like, 917 00:58:18,128 --> 00:58:20,496 At least 10 or more foster homes. 918 00:58:21,932 --> 00:58:23,532 Non-indigenous. 919 00:58:23,934 --> 00:58:26,668 I don't think they were trying to make me fit in their culture; 920 00:58:26,804 --> 00:58:28,837 They just didn't know anything about my culture. 921 00:58:32,142 --> 00:58:34,610 - When we were flying to thunder bay today, 922 00:58:34,744 --> 00:58:36,945 Aileen was sharing how... 923 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,915 Her childhood was not so... Rosy. 924 00:58:42,752 --> 00:58:44,219 And I explained to her 925 00:58:44,354 --> 00:58:46,855 How you are the master of your storytelling. 926 00:58:48,158 --> 00:58:51,026 That you... Are able to rewrite... 927 00:58:52,095 --> 00:58:53,762 ...Your new reality 928 00:58:53,897 --> 00:58:56,198 Into something positive. 929 00:58:57,901 --> 00:59:01,570 - I didn't have the opportunity to do this when I was younger. 930 00:59:01,705 --> 00:59:03,705 It was something that hurt me. 931 00:59:04,841 --> 00:59:07,576 And, uh, now that I'm older, 932 00:59:07,711 --> 00:59:11,179 It's... Just, like, I can give it to myself, 933 00:59:11,181 --> 00:59:13,448 So why not? (chuckling) 934 00:59:13,584 --> 00:59:15,584 (indistinct chatter) 935 00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:20,389 Also... I'm happy that I get to share this with my daughters. 936 00:59:22,859 --> 00:59:25,193 And they get to, like, be... 937 00:59:25,329 --> 00:59:28,664 Welcomed into the pow wow family. 938 00:59:39,843 --> 00:59:41,443 (polka music) 939 00:59:46,750 --> 00:59:48,317 (clapping) 940 01:00:09,706 --> 01:00:12,974 - So your solution for dancing is polka. 941 01:00:13,110 --> 01:00:15,310 (lindsay laughing) - yeah. 942 01:00:15,445 --> 01:00:16,878 I really love polka. 943 01:00:20,117 --> 01:00:22,618 It's the only music that I can dance to. 944 01:00:28,525 --> 01:00:30,325 - Why do you think that is? 945 01:00:30,460 --> 01:00:31,926 - Well, the music's really happy, 946 01:00:32,062 --> 01:00:35,230 Um, it feels very festive, it feels really easy to do. 947 01:00:41,771 --> 01:00:44,506 - Do you like polka. - Can't stand it. 948 01:00:48,412 --> 01:00:51,113 - And yet, you dance to it. - Yeah. 949 01:00:52,416 --> 01:00:54,216 I wouldn't do it for anybody else. 950 01:00:57,554 --> 01:01:00,689 - Do you think the costume makes it easier for you to dance? 951 01:01:00,691 --> 01:01:04,092 - Yeah, I think it's almost like a... A bit of armour. 952 01:01:04,227 --> 01:01:06,395 Like, you're protecting yourself a little bit. 953 01:01:08,365 --> 01:01:11,099 And I do feel like I'm oktoberfest lindsay, 954 01:01:11,234 --> 01:01:14,169 As opposed to just regular lindsay who doesn't dance. 955 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,073 (cheering) 956 01:01:19,576 --> 01:01:21,376 (crowd cheering) 957 01:01:26,183 --> 01:01:29,117 - Umpapa music - surprise, surprise - 958 01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:30,752 Isn't really my thing. 959 01:01:37,060 --> 01:01:38,560 But then again, 960 01:01:38,695 --> 01:01:40,429 Neither is dancing in the dark. 961 01:01:44,601 --> 01:01:47,002 I don't get why I would want to do that. 962 01:01:47,004 --> 01:01:49,237 Like, I don't know what I'm supposed to feel. 963 01:01:50,407 --> 01:01:52,807 - Well, don't... Shut your brain off a little bit. 964 01:01:52,810 --> 01:01:54,443 I think you're thinking too much. 965 01:01:58,681 --> 01:02:01,082 - There is a beauty in... 966 01:02:01,218 --> 01:02:02,451 Letting go. 967 01:02:07,024 --> 01:02:08,690 - I kind of resent the fact that society 968 01:02:08,826 --> 01:02:11,159 Expects me to dance. 969 01:02:11,161 --> 01:02:15,029 Like... It's almost like this is an act of rebellion 970 01:02:15,032 --> 01:02:16,765 For me not to dance. 971 01:02:16,900 --> 01:02:19,167 - I think you expect you to dance. - I expect me to dance? 972 01:02:19,302 --> 01:02:22,037 - Yeah. Well, why are you here if you're not expecting yourself to dance? 973 01:02:22,172 --> 01:02:24,940 - Well, clearly I feel like I need to be fixed on some level. 974 01:02:32,249 --> 01:02:34,516 - Perhaps there's a certain type of flow-like state 975 01:02:34,651 --> 01:02:37,185 We might want to get into... 976 01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,988 Where we'd lose that sense of consciousness. 977 01:02:40,123 --> 01:02:42,824 - It sounds like you're saying that someone like me 978 01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,528 Would have to almost, like, lose their mind for a second. 979 01:02:46,530 --> 01:02:47,963 - Yeah. 980 01:02:53,069 --> 01:02:56,738 - As I'm listening to all these people talking about letting go... 981 01:02:57,541 --> 01:02:59,841 ...That's kind of tapped into something for me. 982 01:03:02,212 --> 01:03:04,012 Since I was a kid, 983 01:03:04,147 --> 01:03:07,516 Have I truly allowed myself to fully let go? 984 01:03:10,353 --> 01:03:13,087 Look, I'm happy just trying to understand 985 01:03:13,090 --> 01:03:15,356 Why I don't dance anymore. 986 01:03:15,359 --> 01:03:17,559 I never really set out to fix that. 987 01:03:20,897 --> 01:03:23,031 But if I was to let go, 988 01:03:23,166 --> 01:03:25,333 To lose my mind for a second... 989 01:03:26,570 --> 01:03:28,203 ...I'd have to be alone. 990 01:03:38,916 --> 01:03:41,683 So to tune out, I put on vr goggles. 991 01:03:42,586 --> 01:03:44,786 So I couldn't see the world outside. 992 01:03:45,856 --> 01:03:49,691 And I told my crew to go as far away as possible. 993 01:03:51,862 --> 01:03:54,262 Can you see me from up there? 994 01:03:54,397 --> 01:03:57,465 - Well, you're pretty small in the frame, but I see you clearly. 995 01:03:57,601 --> 01:03:59,067 - Okay. Okay. - Yeah. 996 01:03:59,803 --> 01:04:02,270 Okay, I'm gonna put music on. 997 01:04:02,272 --> 01:04:03,805 - Okay, good luck. - Alright. 998 01:04:05,141 --> 01:04:06,942 (dance music) 999 01:04:07,810 --> 01:04:09,611 ♪ time was drifting ♪ 1000 01:04:09,613 --> 01:04:12,280 ♪ this rock had got to roll ♪ 1001 01:04:12,415 --> 01:04:15,717 ♪ so I hit the road and made my getaway ♪ 1002 01:04:17,354 --> 01:04:20,922 ♪ restless feeling really got a hold ♪ 1003 01:04:22,159 --> 01:04:25,927 ♪ I started searching for a better way ♪ 1004 01:04:28,632 --> 01:04:32,567 ♪ and I kept on looking for a sign in the middle of the night ♪ 1005 01:04:32,569 --> 01:04:34,903 ♪ but I couldn't see the light ♪ 1006 01:04:35,038 --> 01:04:37,038 ♪ no I couldn't see the light ♪ 1007 01:04:38,107 --> 01:04:42,176 ♪ I kept on looking for a way to take me through the night ♪ 1008 01:04:42,179 --> 01:04:44,378 ♪ couldn't get it right ♪ 1009 01:04:44,381 --> 01:04:46,948 ♪ I couldn't get it right ♪♪ 1010 01:04:51,054 --> 01:04:52,854 Ahem. Oh. 1011 01:04:54,791 --> 01:04:56,358 Ah, fuck. 1012 01:04:58,061 --> 01:04:59,461 I fell. 1013 01:05:03,567 --> 01:05:06,067 - So did you let yourself loose with the music? 1014 01:05:06,069 --> 01:05:08,603 - Yeah, I think a little bit too loose. 1015 01:05:08,739 --> 01:05:12,540 I thought I was closer to land and then suddenly I... I hit a chunk of rock, 1016 01:05:12,676 --> 01:05:14,876 And I thought I was gonna fall on the ground, 1017 01:05:15,012 --> 01:05:18,212 But I fell in the water. I'm fuckin' drenched. 1018 01:05:18,215 --> 01:05:21,549 And not only that, but I'm covered in goose shit. 1019 01:05:21,685 --> 01:05:23,952 (cameraman laughing) 1020 01:05:24,487 --> 01:05:28,089 I know you guys are pissing in your pants right now. (laughter) 1021 01:05:32,295 --> 01:05:34,029 I'm having trouble... (inhaling) 1022 01:05:34,031 --> 01:05:35,763 ...When I breathe, it kind of hurts. 1023 01:05:35,899 --> 01:05:37,966 I don't think I cracked a rib, but... 1024 01:05:37,968 --> 01:05:39,567 'cause I landed on a rock. 1025 01:05:39,703 --> 01:05:43,037 - Just before you fell, how did it feel 1026 01:05:43,173 --> 01:05:46,074 To let yourself go... On the music? 1027 01:05:47,243 --> 01:05:49,010 - Fuck, these are covered in shit. 1028 01:05:50,647 --> 01:05:52,013 Um... 1029 01:05:53,917 --> 01:05:57,018 Y'know, I love music, so I was really into the song. 1030 01:06:00,724 --> 01:06:02,223 The sun's on my face. 1031 01:06:03,860 --> 01:06:05,593 It's a beautiful environment. 1032 01:06:06,997 --> 01:06:08,697 I enjoyed it for a second. 1033 01:06:12,869 --> 01:06:14,635 But did I feel... 1034 01:06:14,638 --> 01:06:16,871 Is it enough, what I felt, 1035 01:06:16,873 --> 01:06:20,241 To make me want to jump up every time there's music at a place? 1036 01:06:21,278 --> 01:06:23,845 Um... I don't know. 1037 01:06:39,763 --> 01:06:42,864 So what's your personal view of dancing? 1038 01:06:45,502 --> 01:06:47,902 - In terms of enjoying it, I don't. 1039 01:06:49,172 --> 01:06:52,240 Uh, I've never... Never enjoyed dancing. 1040 01:06:52,375 --> 01:06:55,477 I've always found it, um, really quite uncomfortable. 1041 01:06:57,380 --> 01:07:00,114 - I don't like dancing, so, y'know, like... 1042 01:07:01,184 --> 01:07:04,385 ...I just know dance music that would kind of, uh, 1043 01:07:04,521 --> 01:07:05,820 Compel me to dance. 1044 01:07:07,590 --> 01:07:09,090 - I don't dance. 1045 01:07:09,226 --> 01:07:11,726 - I only start dancing when I get really... Y'know, 1046 01:07:11,862 --> 01:07:13,661 In an altered state of consciousness. 1047 01:07:13,797 --> 01:07:16,297 - When you're drunk. - Yeah, right, when I'm drunk. 1048 01:07:17,066 --> 01:07:19,000 - I-I-I rarely say this, 1049 01:07:19,136 --> 01:07:21,536 But when I was really, really young, 1050 01:07:21,538 --> 01:07:24,338 I was, uh, I was a bit overweight, 1051 01:07:24,341 --> 01:07:27,074 And I was a bit shy. 1052 01:07:27,210 --> 01:07:28,543 When there was music playing at my house, 1053 01:07:28,678 --> 01:07:30,545 There was a big party going on at my house, 1054 01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:32,413 I used to hide in the bathroom and dance. 1055 01:07:32,549 --> 01:07:35,483 - Uh, yeah, personally, over the years, 1056 01:07:35,485 --> 01:07:38,886 Um, I've had, uh, some issues around that. 1057 01:07:39,022 --> 01:07:41,555 Um, I've... I've worked through that. 1058 01:07:41,691 --> 01:07:44,225 - When I first started dancing, it was because, in high school, 1059 01:07:44,361 --> 01:07:45,960 My boyfriend invited me to go, 1060 01:07:45,962 --> 01:07:48,696 And there were two group classes I was supposed to attend, 1061 01:07:48,832 --> 01:07:50,631 But I completely missed the first one, 1062 01:07:50,767 --> 01:07:53,635 'cause I was just sitting in my car, terrified to go inside. 1063 01:07:53,769 --> 01:07:57,372 - I went to college not having danced a single step. 1064 01:07:57,507 --> 01:08:01,709 And most painful memory was, uh, going to high-school prom, 1065 01:08:01,845 --> 01:08:04,912 And I said, "well, I'm going to the prom, but I'm not dancing. 1066 01:08:05,048 --> 01:08:07,248 I always thought that dancing was just not my thing, 1067 01:08:07,383 --> 01:08:09,250 And there's no way I could do it. 1068 01:08:09,385 --> 01:08:12,053 - Have you ever heard of chorophobia? - No. 1069 01:08:12,856 --> 01:08:15,256 - It's the fear of dancing. - Right. Okay. 1070 01:08:15,258 --> 01:08:17,591 - So I'm a chorophobe. - Me, too. 1071 01:08:17,594 --> 01:08:20,195 - Are you a choro-- - yeah, he is. 1072 01:08:21,698 --> 01:08:23,331 - How do you feel if I tell you 1073 01:08:23,466 --> 01:08:26,801 That there are hundreds of thousands of people, 1074 01:08:26,937 --> 01:08:28,736 Actually all over the world, 1075 01:08:28,872 --> 01:08:30,972 That have the same fear of dancing? 1076 01:08:52,963 --> 01:08:54,562 - I'm a little nervous. 1077 01:08:59,902 --> 01:09:02,704 But, like, y'know, I'm actually doing something 1078 01:09:02,706 --> 01:09:05,573 That I've always wanted to do and... 1079 01:09:05,709 --> 01:09:07,408 There's really no going back. 1080 01:09:09,179 --> 01:09:13,715 - At one point today, she felt: Oh, my goodness, it's time, 1081 01:09:13,849 --> 01:09:15,850 And I don't know if I can do this. 1082 01:09:19,656 --> 01:09:22,056 - I know that this is where I belong, 1083 01:09:22,191 --> 01:09:23,591 And... 1084 01:09:23,727 --> 01:09:26,794 I just need to get over the fear of, like... 1085 01:09:26,796 --> 01:09:28,863 Um, basically... 1086 01:09:28,998 --> 01:09:31,232 Just dancing and just, like, 1087 01:09:31,234 --> 01:09:33,868 Giving myself... To it. 1088 01:09:36,806 --> 01:09:38,406 (singing) 1089 01:09:42,879 --> 01:09:44,546 (singing and drumming) 1090 01:09:57,694 --> 01:10:00,161 (feedback) - testing. 1091 01:10:00,297 --> 01:10:02,429 One of my students is here today, 1092 01:10:02,565 --> 01:10:05,165 And we're here to talk about the fear of dancing. 1093 01:10:05,301 --> 01:10:07,702 Some of you may not understand that entirely, 1094 01:10:07,837 --> 01:10:10,037 But as a first-time dancer myself, 1095 01:10:10,173 --> 01:10:12,373 When I was nine years old, 1096 01:10:12,375 --> 01:10:15,443 I was very scared to dance at the pow wow for the fear of making a mistake... 1097 01:10:16,713 --> 01:10:18,313 ...For the fear of being judged. 1098 01:10:19,716 --> 01:10:24,118 And so my dear friend aileen... Can make her way over here 1099 01:10:24,254 --> 01:10:25,653 Into our circle. 1100 01:10:29,325 --> 01:10:31,192 - Whoo! (singing and drumming) 1101 01:10:36,599 --> 01:10:38,066 Oh, my god. 1102 01:10:38,801 --> 01:10:40,068 Yeah. 1103 01:10:45,875 --> 01:10:47,075 Oh. 1104 01:10:59,422 --> 01:11:01,289 (soft music) 1105 01:11:33,323 --> 01:11:37,525 ♪ the speed of love returning ♪ 1106 01:11:40,996 --> 01:11:44,265 ♪ to my depraved heart 1107 01:11:46,068 --> 01:11:48,002 ♪ like a song ♪ 1108 01:11:49,572 --> 01:11:53,841 ♪ carries the memory still ♪ 1109 01:11:55,312 --> 01:11:59,013 ♪ you waited till the river froze ♪ 1110 01:12:02,485 --> 01:12:05,353 ♪ to come and find me ♪ 1111 01:12:08,024 --> 01:12:10,024 ♪ with your voice ♪ 1112 01:12:11,961 --> 01:12:15,163 ♪ speaking the words of my throat ♪ 1113 01:12:16,432 --> 01:12:19,200 ♪ that dream you dream ♪ 1114 01:12:19,335 --> 01:12:21,703 ♪ of falling... ♪ 1115 01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,375 - I'm aware of the feeling that people have when they dance. 1116 01:12:28,845 --> 01:12:30,878 They are taken over by something. 1117 01:12:32,448 --> 01:12:34,982 Which is a tribal connection, and joy. 1118 01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,120 And I know I'm missing out. 1119 01:12:39,255 --> 01:12:42,790 ♪ we were never forced to love ♪ 1120 01:12:43,993 --> 01:12:47,895 ♪ you would have to lose your mind ♪ 1121 01:12:50,065 --> 01:12:53,334 ♪ you would have to lose your mind ♪ 1122 01:12:55,338 --> 01:12:58,172 ♪ you would have to lose your mind ♪ 1123 01:13:10,085 --> 01:13:11,819 (phone ringing) 1124 01:13:12,889 --> 01:13:15,422 - Hello? - Hi. Francine? It's michael. 1125 01:13:15,425 --> 01:13:18,091 - Hey, michael. - So I'll see you at 2:00. 1126 01:13:18,094 --> 01:13:19,994 - Okay, I'll see you then. 1127 01:13:21,631 --> 01:13:25,633 ♪ when icarus was falling... ♪ 1128 01:13:26,770 --> 01:13:29,102 - When I danced on that beach, 1129 01:13:29,105 --> 01:13:32,639 Sure, it didn't turn out exactly as planned, 1130 01:13:32,642 --> 01:13:34,442 But I did feel something. 1131 01:13:35,979 --> 01:13:37,378 But that was me alone. 1132 01:13:38,714 --> 01:13:40,915 Would I get that same feeling 1133 01:13:41,050 --> 01:13:43,985 If I tried to really let go with someone else? 1134 01:13:44,119 --> 01:13:47,655 ♪ woke up in her bed last night ♪ 1135 01:13:50,260 --> 01:13:52,427 ♪ her features were gold ♪ 1136 01:13:54,797 --> 01:13:56,664 So what if I went back... 1137 01:13:57,333 --> 01:13:59,467 ...To where dancing stopped for me? 1138 01:14:02,137 --> 01:14:03,671 It's been a long time. 1139 01:14:04,941 --> 01:14:06,474 I had a locker right here. 1140 01:14:07,877 --> 01:14:09,143 I think... 1141 01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,079 ...2412. 1142 01:14:12,081 --> 01:14:13,681 I think it's 2412. 1143 01:14:16,752 --> 01:14:18,786 And what if I called a woman 1144 01:14:18,922 --> 01:14:22,623 I secretly wanted to ask to dance back in grade 9, 1145 01:14:22,758 --> 01:14:24,225 But just couldn't? 1146 01:14:27,497 --> 01:14:30,298 And what if she agreed to meet me? 1147 01:14:32,168 --> 01:14:34,601 ♪ you would have to lose your mind ♪ 1148 01:14:34,737 --> 01:14:36,804 I'm a little freaked out. (chuckling) 1149 01:14:36,940 --> 01:14:40,107 I'm really, uh, not feeling very comfortable about the whole thing. 1150 01:14:43,513 --> 01:14:46,948 ♪ you would have to lose your mind ♪ 1151 01:15:06,002 --> 01:15:07,869 (music) 1152 01:15:21,550 --> 01:15:23,216 And what if, 1153 01:15:23,352 --> 01:15:25,619 When we finally did dance, 1154 01:15:25,755 --> 01:15:28,456 I didn't get the same feeling I had on that beach? 1155 01:15:32,762 --> 01:15:34,362 Or back when I was a kid? 1156 01:15:39,969 --> 01:15:42,770 Being cured at the end of a film, 1157 01:15:42,905 --> 01:15:44,906 That's a hollywood ending. 1158 01:15:48,577 --> 01:15:51,412 ♪ your mind... ♪ 1159 01:15:51,414 --> 01:15:55,550 But maybe the next time an opportunity to dance does come up... 1160 01:15:56,719 --> 01:15:58,185 ...I will. 1161 01:16:00,589 --> 01:16:02,189 Or maybe I won't. 1162 01:16:04,326 --> 01:16:06,593 ♪ your mind... ♪ 1163 01:16:06,596 --> 01:16:09,797 And what if... That was okay? 1164 01:16:09,932 --> 01:16:12,166 ♪ your mind... ♪ 1165 01:16:14,670 --> 01:16:17,171 ♪ your mind... ♪♪ 1166 01:16:27,349 --> 01:16:29,850 (disco music) 1167 01:16:36,225 --> 01:16:38,626 ♪ pump up the jam pump it up ♪ 1168 01:16:38,628 --> 01:16:42,029 ♪ while you feet are stompin' and the jam is pumpin' ♪ 1169 01:16:42,165 --> 01:16:44,098 ♪ look at here the crowd is jumpin' ♪ 1170 01:16:44,233 --> 01:16:46,199 ♪ pump it up a little more ♪ 1171 01:16:46,335 --> 01:16:48,169 ♪ get the party going on the dance floor ♪ 1172 01:16:48,171 --> 01:16:49,903 ♪ seek us that's where the party's at ♪ 1173 01:16:50,039 --> 01:16:52,206 ♪ and you'll find out if you're too bad ♪ 1174 01:16:53,175 --> 01:16:55,742 ♪ I don't want a place to stay ♪ 1175 01:16:55,878 --> 01:16:58,612 ♪ get your booty on the floor tonight make my day ♪ 1176 01:16:58,748 --> 01:17:00,581 Are you gonna do a little dance for me? 1177 01:17:00,716 --> 01:17:02,583 - Dance? Like, yeah. (laughter) 1178 01:17:04,587 --> 01:17:06,587 Yeah, that's enough. (laughing) 1179 01:17:06,723 --> 01:17:08,923 - Give me your best move. - Oh, my god. 1180 01:17:08,925 --> 01:17:11,324 ♪ make my day make my day ♪ (laughing) 1181 01:17:11,327 --> 01:17:14,528 I really need alcohol now. (laughing) 1182 01:17:14,663 --> 01:17:17,598 - Would you do a little dance for me right now? 1183 01:17:17,733 --> 01:17:20,134 - No chance. - There is no chance? 1184 01:17:20,136 --> 01:17:21,735 - Absolutely none. 1185 01:17:21,871 --> 01:17:24,338 - Stephane's gonna dance. Woo-hoo! Woo! 1186 01:17:24,340 --> 01:17:26,873 You have fear of dancing? (laughing) 1187 01:17:26,876 --> 01:17:28,475 ♪ and the jam is pumpin' ♪ 1188 01:17:28,611 --> 01:17:30,744 ♪ look at here the crowd is jumpin' ♪ 1189 01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:34,949 I'm asking everybody I interview to do a little dance for me. (fry laughing) 1190 01:17:35,084 --> 01:17:37,151 So are you interested in doing that? 1191 01:17:37,153 --> 01:17:39,220 - I'll do a little finger dance. (chuckling) 1192 01:17:40,156 --> 01:17:42,089 - Alright. - There you are. - Okay. 1193 01:17:42,091 --> 01:17:44,692 ♪ get your booty on the floor tonight ♪ 1194 01:17:44,694 --> 01:17:47,161 ♪ make my day ♪ - before we danced, 1195 01:17:47,163 --> 01:17:49,697 You said you were at a 10 on feeling uncomfortable. 1196 01:17:49,699 --> 01:17:51,966 So where would you say you are now? 1197 01:17:52,101 --> 01:17:53,601 - Uh, nine and a half. (laughing) 1198 01:17:54,770 --> 01:17:56,369 ♪ make my day ♪ 1199 01:17:56,372 --> 01:17:59,707 ♪ make my make my make make my day ♪♪ 1200 01:17:59,842 --> 01:18:02,443 ♪ make my day make my day ♪♪ 1201 01:18:02,578 --> 01:18:04,545 Subtitling: Difuze 93285

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