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(soft guitar music)
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- See that kid in the red shirt?
That's me.
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Obviously, back then,
I had a thing for dancing.
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But then, at some point,
I'm not sure why...
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...I just stopped.
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(techno music)
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And now, as an adult,
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It flat-out terrifies me.
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Recently I became single again,
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Which means dating,
which means struggling
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With the whole
social-dancing thing.
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But it turns out...
I'm not alone.
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Dancing is not right.
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I'm 6'1" and 300 pounds.
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6'1"-300-pound guys
shouldn't dance.
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- The harder I try to dance...
(laughing)
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...It doesn't...
It... It makes it worse.
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- I have kind of a wave...
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Of... Of anxiety.
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- I would love
to be able to dance,
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But I just... Don't think I can.
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(whistling)
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- The science even has a name
for what these people
and I have:
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Chorophobia, fear of dancing.
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What I'm wondering is,
why did I stop?
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And what's so big about dancing
anyway?
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I have chorophobia,
fear of dancing.
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- Yeah.
- You think that's strange?
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- I mean, yes.
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♪ everybody dance now ♪
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(disco music)
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♪ everybody dance now ♪
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♪ give me the music ♪
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♪ give me the music ♪
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♪ everybody dance now ♪
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♪ everybody dance now ♪
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♪ everybody ♪
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♪ come on let's sweat ♪
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♪ baby ♪
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♪ let the music take control ♪
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♪ let the rhythm move you ♪♪
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- Can you... Pinpoint,
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Uh, that single moment
when you realized
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That you had a fear of dancing?
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- I remember going
to house parties...
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And thinking, um:
It's so bright in here.
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(laughing)
or...
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Uh: This isn't quite the music
I like.
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Or, y'know: This...
This stereo isn't right.
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Or: I haven't had
enough to drink.
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That's where I remember
that sensitivity coming in.
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And that increased
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Through my twenties.
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Dance is revealing.
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I feel like it reveals
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My limits and my quirks.
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And, y'know, I've had to...
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...Accept that.
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Um...
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And I... I guess I have,
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But I still have...
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Uh, y'know,
it still creates that threshold,
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As I go from that way
of thinking
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To just doing.
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And, yeah, you can't think
while you're on a dance floor.
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It doesn't... There's no point.
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For whole years,
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I think I went without dancing
at all.
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That, to me, in retrospect,
I think:
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I love dancing so much
and, y'know, but how could I...
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How could I distance myself
from it?
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- Actually, I'm having
a hard time seeing you.
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(soft music)
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- My dance anxiety
had me thinking
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About seeing
the same threshold of anxiety
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In other aspects of my life.
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Like drawing.
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Like, the way I'm...
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...Dri-driving the pen.
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When I dance,
it's the same thing.
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You're seeing my body...
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Uh, get driven, y'know,
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Trying to...
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...Connect.
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Uh, this is it.
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- So this is
your fear-of-dancing graphic.
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- Yeah. Here,
there's a frenetic nervous line.
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And a... A rhythm is starting
to develop here.
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Then it sort of goes down
a rabbit hole.
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And then it becomes
very, very smooth.
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And this is exactly
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How I push through
the threshold.
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(latin music)
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- But for some cultures,
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The last thing they need is a
graphic to explain
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How dancing makes them feel.
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(up-tempo latin music)
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(indistinct chatter)
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I'm here to try to figure out,
y'know:
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What is it I'm supposed
to be getting out of dancing?
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- Dancing, to me,
is a necessity.
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(latin music)
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I hear music and I automatically
have to move.
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Dancing is a very important
part of, uh...
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Of the human artistic
expression.
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I always, in my shows,
say that...
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I love to play music,
but music is only the vehicle...
For what I'm trying to do.
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My thing is to communicate love
and joy...
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And get people to react
and dance.
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(up-tempo latin music)
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- Why do you think
that people dance?
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- Why?
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It's something
that's born with you.
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You feel that you are just made
for that.
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(up-tempo latin music)
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- Latin culture really thrives
on dancing.
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It's the foundation of cultural
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And social events.
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It's engraved in kind of the way
that we live.
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- Dance is a kind of...
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Language.
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When I'm sad,
I dance super different
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The way that I dance
when I'm...
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Um, happy and... Or angry.
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So it's kind of a way
to express myself.
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- Have you ever heard
of chorophobia?
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- Chorophobia, um, I've...
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I've never heard...
I've never heard of it.
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- Why do you think
people like me
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Might have a fear of dancing?
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- Because you don't feel
comfortable dancing.
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- Why do you think
I don't feel comfortable?
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- Why? Because you say
you have chorophobia.
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Phobia means
that you are afraid to do it.
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- Do you think
it's because I think
other people are judging me?
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- Maybe. I mean, you're the one
who have to tell me why you have
that kind of phobia.
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- I wish I could tell you.
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(soft music)
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Well, I can't say exactly
what's wrong with me, but...
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What I can tell you
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Is that,
for someone that's single,
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And wants to meet others,
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Not dancing really takes you
out of the game.
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- I have to confess
that if you dance with a girl,
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You... You are moving forward
a little bit fast.
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They're gonna love you more.
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- But to me
and so many others...
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(indistinct chatter)
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...There's something
not quite right about dancing.
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(stephen fry):
I hate the slovenly mixture
of sexual exhibitionism,
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Strutting contempt
and repellent narcissism
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That it involves.
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I hate it when it is formless,
meaningless bopping,
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And I hate it -
if anything, even more -
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When it is formal
and choreographed into genres
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Like ballroom or schooled disco.
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I really, really, really hate...
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Dancing,
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And have not the slightest
milligram of envy
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For those who can do it -
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If there is such a thing
as being able to do it.
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Those cavortings
are so embarrassing and dreadful
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As to force my hand
to my mouth.
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- Now, even I,
as a fellow chorophobe,
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Who hates and fears dancing,
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I'm thinking:
Is that a little harsh?
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- It's very harsh, but it's...
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The eyes and the stretch...
And the flick of the head,
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I just... I-I... Literally,
I feel the tears
pricking my eyes.
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Either for the... For the fun
of bopping and... Shaking -
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You're shaking your booty -
I mean...
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Because we haven't even touched
embarrassment.
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- You don't have any memory
that you ever danced as a baby?
- Oh, before teenage, yes.
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I can remember leaping around,
getting hot and hysterical,
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Uh, with pass the parcel
and musical chairs.
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The things you have
at children's parties.
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- But now, as adults,
it's no longer
about musical chairs.
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- Yes. And that's where people
like you and me have to worry,
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Because we go to weddings
and we go to events
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Where there is a dance floor,
and we look at it with horror,
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And we just hope that...
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When people lose inhibition,
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They have a habit of pulling you
onto the dance floor.
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- I hate that.
- Exactly.
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- That's the thing
that drives me crazy.
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- They won't listen
to you say, "I don't want to!"
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(dance music)
- come on! Yes!
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No, no, no, fuck fear! Come on!
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Let's move! Just move! Breathe.
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Be free. Feel it.
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Feel freedom inside.
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- You look very happy.
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- Why aren't you?
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- Showing up
at single dance events like this
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Usually leads to two things.
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Me looking totally out of place,
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And others wondering:
What the hell am I doing here?
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- You can go in the middle.
- Now, I'm embarrassed.
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- No, no, stop, stop.
It's 'cause you refuse to move.
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- I don't want to move.
- Why?
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- I-I really appreciate
what you're doing.
- No, no, no, no. No.
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Okay, look at me.
Look, I'm not doing this
to bother you.
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If I'm bothering you,
tell me to go away.
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I'm doing this 'cause I want you
to enjoy your life.
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- I am enjoying my life.
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- Dancing is the best thing
about my life ever.
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Ever.
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- I can't believe
I'm saying this,
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But I'm gonna have to ask you
to go away.
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(soft music
overlapping dance music)
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Can't believe I just did that.
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How you see me right here,
that's the worst of it for me.
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Defiance and resentment
that's kind of mixed in
with this, I dunno,
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Overwhelming sense
that I've just missed out
on something.
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That I'm so outside of it,
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Whatever that "it" is.
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(soft music)
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Like this woman on the boat,
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People don't see chorophobia
as a real thing.
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And I get it.
It seems kind of ridiculous.
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Fear of dancing.
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(sombre music)
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But it is real.
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Just like fear of heights
is real.
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The only difference is,
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No one would ever think
of helping a person
with that fear
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By dragging them
to the edge of a building.
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(up-tempo music)
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Online, I found
tons of experts
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That make a living
helping people overcome
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Whatever fear they have.
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But there's only one
that specializes in chorophobia.
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What do you make of this woman
and I on the boat?
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- From what I'm seeing of this,
she clearly feels the love
of that environment,
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And would love you to experience
that love of that environment,
too.
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People I work with are people
who come to me and they say,
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"I really want to dance,
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But I have a terrifying fear
of it."
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It might be somebody saying,
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"my central issue
is that I would love to dance
with my fiancée,
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But whenever I do,
she laughs at me."
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We explore that kind of issue.
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Or another woman
I've worked with said
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That whenever she went
into a nightclub
and started dancing,
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She would sweat profusely
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And she didn't want
people to see her sweating.
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So her question
was about the sweating.
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If you had 50 people
who all had a fear of dancing,
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They'd probably have
50 different reasons for why
they have a fear of dancing.
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00:15:15,382 --> 00:15:17,348
- Well,
according to the good doctor,
251
00:15:17,350 --> 00:15:19,784
Fear of dancing,
for most of us...
252
00:15:22,221 --> 00:15:23,988
...Starts here...
253
00:15:24,124 --> 00:15:27,224
In a little nightmare we call...
254
00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,227
The high-school dance.
255
00:15:33,967 --> 00:15:38,503
- There was that instant feeling
that everybody else...
Had had a lesson.
256
00:15:38,505 --> 00:15:40,571
They knew what they were doing.
257
00:15:40,707 --> 00:15:42,640
And when I looked at them and...
258
00:15:42,775 --> 00:15:45,376
So they're twisting their body
and are their legs moving
on the floor,
259
00:15:45,378 --> 00:15:47,312
Or are they just staying still
on the floor?
260
00:15:47,446 --> 00:15:48,913
And then the moment
I started doing it,
261
00:15:49,048 --> 00:15:50,581
I could sense people laughing
at me,
262
00:15:50,583 --> 00:15:52,850
Even if they weren't,
I felt they must be.
263
00:15:52,852 --> 00:15:54,986
Because it was a wrong thing
to do,
264
00:15:55,121 --> 00:15:56,654
It was utterly unnatural to me.
265
00:15:56,790 --> 00:15:59,557
It just...
It just closed me down.
266
00:16:05,665 --> 00:16:08,132
- All I can remember is that...
267
00:16:08,268 --> 00:16:09,934
There I was in grade 9,
268
00:16:10,069 --> 00:16:14,338
Suddenly unable or unwilling
to step on the dance floor,
269
00:16:14,341 --> 00:16:19,077
And finding it impossible to ask
any girl that I might've liked
to join me there.
270
00:16:21,514 --> 00:16:24,882
- Suddenly, dancing becomes
about mate selection,
271
00:16:25,018 --> 00:16:26,951
Or about competency issues,
272
00:16:27,086 --> 00:16:29,987
Moving your body in a way
that your social group
273
00:16:30,123 --> 00:16:32,489
Find acceptable or unacceptable.
274
00:16:33,159 --> 00:16:36,627
Or it might be a fear
of displaying their body,
275
00:16:36,763 --> 00:16:38,296
Which has changed.
276
00:16:38,298 --> 00:16:40,965
Or it might be a fear
of the way their body works.
277
00:16:41,100 --> 00:16:44,202
Or it might be a fear
of looking "other" somehow.
278
00:16:52,645 --> 00:16:55,179
- When I was 15 or 16,
279
00:16:55,315 --> 00:16:57,782
I was a lot taller
than most kids my age.
280
00:17:00,653 --> 00:17:03,888
And I started,
like I guess a lot of girls do,
281
00:17:04,023 --> 00:17:08,459
Becoming more self-conscious
of my body and my...
282
00:17:08,594 --> 00:17:10,261
Comfort in my own body.
283
00:17:11,798 --> 00:17:14,398
I think it made me feel
like I was easier to pinpoint.
284
00:17:14,401 --> 00:17:17,802
Like: "oh! Do you see
that tall girl and how bad
she is at dancing?"
285
00:17:23,142 --> 00:17:26,344
At my high school,
we used to have this thing
called the "dance-a-thon",
286
00:17:26,346 --> 00:17:27,745
Where we would dance
all night long -
287
00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,448
I think it was from 8 p.M.
Until 8 a.M. -
288
00:17:30,583 --> 00:17:33,551
And I would do it,
because I really liked
hanging out with my friends,
289
00:17:33,686 --> 00:17:35,420
And it was the cool thing to do.
290
00:17:36,089 --> 00:17:38,022
I would drink lots of water,
291
00:17:38,157 --> 00:17:40,624
Take millions of trips
to the bathroom,
292
00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,827
But I would never... Dance.
293
00:17:45,364 --> 00:17:47,598
Around that time,
my parents noticed
294
00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:50,334
That I was becoming
more self-conscious,
295
00:17:50,336 --> 00:17:53,838
And they decided to sign me up
for a teenage modelling course.
296
00:17:55,908 --> 00:17:58,776
My parents were there,
being very supportive
and lovely.
297
00:17:58,911 --> 00:18:01,879
They brought their camcorder
and videoed it.
298
00:18:03,316 --> 00:18:06,517
I actually knew one of the girls
that was doing
the modelling class.
299
00:18:06,519 --> 00:18:08,920
Very tall, very thin,
very beautiful.
300
00:18:10,389 --> 00:18:12,490
And watching her walk,
301
00:18:12,625 --> 00:18:16,193
And know how to hold her body
and her poise
and her confidence, I mean,
302
00:18:16,329 --> 00:18:20,198
I feel like I just stuck out
like a... Sore thumb.
303
00:18:22,401 --> 00:18:24,635
And I think that's me
in the shadow...
304
00:18:26,538 --> 00:18:28,139
...About to have my turn.
305
00:18:29,008 --> 00:18:30,341
Yeah. Oh.
306
00:18:31,678 --> 00:18:32,877
Oh.
307
00:18:45,091 --> 00:18:47,158
Oh, I feel so sad for me.
308
00:18:54,167 --> 00:18:57,401
- Why?
- I just look so uncomfortable.
309
00:18:59,372 --> 00:19:01,272
I'm, like:
I don't want to be there.
310
00:19:02,241 --> 00:19:04,375
The way I'm holding my hands.
311
00:19:10,583 --> 00:19:12,583
- What would you tell
your younger self?
312
00:19:15,588 --> 00:19:18,156
- I think I'd give her a hug
and say, "don't worry."
313
00:19:29,869 --> 00:19:33,404
This is kind of where
I just stopped... Dancing.
314
00:19:38,544 --> 00:19:40,311
(music)
315
00:19:43,049 --> 00:19:44,748
- When the dance starts,
316
00:19:44,884 --> 00:19:47,552
You cannot think of what you do.
317
00:19:51,557 --> 00:19:54,158
You get that feel
of the goose bumps
coming up your body.
318
00:19:56,896 --> 00:20:00,131
It's almost like
an out-of-body experience.
319
00:20:05,171 --> 00:20:06,703
I'm originally from ukraine.
320
00:20:07,707 --> 00:20:11,609
I am teaching ballroom dancing
and I was in competing
ballroom dancing in the past.
321
00:20:16,849 --> 00:20:18,749
- I see a lot of trophies
in this room.
322
00:20:18,751 --> 00:20:20,585
Are a lot of those yours?
323
00:20:20,719 --> 00:20:22,653
- Uh, some of them are and, uh,
324
00:20:22,655 --> 00:20:25,323
Yes, quite a few of them mine.
Yes.
325
00:20:28,428 --> 00:20:30,928
The floaty feel and being...
326
00:20:31,063 --> 00:20:32,930
In the moment,
327
00:20:32,932 --> 00:20:34,999
It's very meditative in a way.
328
00:20:37,870 --> 00:20:42,173
Not to think about the steps
and be able to dance
and express.
329
00:20:45,078 --> 00:20:47,278
- Do you know
what a chorophobe is?
330
00:20:48,214 --> 00:20:50,080
- I haven't heard that one.
331
00:20:50,216 --> 00:20:53,150
- A chorophobe is somebody
that has a fear of dancing.
332
00:20:53,152 --> 00:20:55,286
- Mm. How interesting.
333
00:20:59,758 --> 00:21:02,293
I think that the fact
that people are afraid of dance
334
00:21:02,428 --> 00:21:05,630
Is just because
they're not capable of doing it.
335
00:21:05,764 --> 00:21:09,834
So if you get
the right instructor
that introduce it right away,
336
00:21:09,968 --> 00:21:13,037
Gentle form,
that can be overcome.
337
00:21:16,509 --> 00:21:19,710
- The problem with going
to a dance class...
338
00:21:19,712 --> 00:21:22,313
Is that you're going
to a dance class.
339
00:21:23,182 --> 00:21:26,250
- I do agree that when come
into the dance studio,
340
00:21:26,385 --> 00:21:28,185
You're being very vulnerable.
341
00:21:28,187 --> 00:21:30,855
Um, you expose yourself.
First of all,
342
00:21:30,989 --> 00:21:34,258
Because you are gonna be dancing
with a strange person,
343
00:21:34,393 --> 00:21:36,927
Who is an instructor
in your case,
344
00:21:37,063 --> 00:21:39,330
Unless you bring someone else
with you.
345
00:21:39,465 --> 00:21:42,166
So facilitating
that transition...
346
00:21:43,135 --> 00:21:44,869
...Uh, could be crucial.
347
00:21:44,871 --> 00:21:48,739
We could have more phobias
with dance
348
00:21:48,741 --> 00:21:50,674
If we don't, um,
349
00:21:50,677 --> 00:21:52,576
Introduce the dance
the right way.
350
00:21:54,681 --> 00:21:56,613
- The reality is,
351
00:21:56,749 --> 00:22:00,150
No matter how talented
and sensitive
the dance teacher is,
352
00:22:00,286 --> 00:22:02,687
It's still one person too many.
353
00:22:06,759 --> 00:22:10,227
The ideal would be a classroom
with...
354
00:22:10,229 --> 00:22:11,562
No one in it.
355
00:22:13,632 --> 00:22:15,365
And these guys here,
356
00:22:15,368 --> 00:22:17,234
They're actually
making that happen.
357
00:22:17,370 --> 00:22:19,236
- Now step to the right.
358
00:22:19,238 --> 00:22:21,906
- So if we need to adjust this,
I'll go ahead and then tape it.
359
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,407
Go ahead and pull it over.
360
00:22:27,946 --> 00:22:29,579
- Oh, boy.
(chuckling)
361
00:22:29,582 --> 00:22:32,449
- So do you see the controllers
in front of you?
362
00:22:32,452 --> 00:22:34,251
- Um...
(indistinct chatter)
363
00:22:34,387 --> 00:22:36,887
Thank god I stopped doing acid
a long time ago.
364
00:22:38,124 --> 00:22:39,523
- Hopefully you get
the experience
365
00:22:39,525 --> 00:22:42,326
Of being in a flesh-and-blood
dance studio
366
00:22:42,461 --> 00:22:46,062
Without having the anxiety
to actually have to walk
through the doors.
367
00:22:46,799 --> 00:22:49,099
- You want to use your finger
and press down here,
368
00:22:49,235 --> 00:22:51,669
And then swing your hand;
keep it pressed while you swing.
369
00:22:53,673 --> 00:22:55,172
So you'll virtually walk.
370
00:22:56,808 --> 00:22:59,643
You'll see a ramp,
and I want you
to go up the ramp.
371
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,747
That's how you'll get
to the studio.
372
00:23:02,881 --> 00:23:05,615
- My favourite part is walking.
Can I just...
373
00:23:05,618 --> 00:23:07,885
I don't have a fear of walking.
374
00:23:08,020 --> 00:23:09,920
- Funny enough,
dancing becomes
375
00:23:10,055 --> 00:23:13,424
What your body wants
to do naturally, like walking,
fairly fast.
376
00:23:13,559 --> 00:23:15,759
It's all about relaxing
into dance.
377
00:23:16,562 --> 00:23:18,963
- So this is gonna be
your classroom.
378
00:23:19,097 --> 00:23:20,564
- Alright.
379
00:23:20,699 --> 00:23:23,167
- Face the teacher.
- Is that her?
- Yes.
380
00:23:25,138 --> 00:23:26,636
Walk in front of her?
381
00:23:26,639 --> 00:23:28,406
- In front of her. Okay.
- Mm-hmm.
382
00:23:31,410 --> 00:23:33,978
- She's trying to pull me
on the dance floor.
383
00:23:34,112 --> 00:23:36,046
- I know--
- she's a little close, though.
384
00:23:36,048 --> 00:23:38,716
- She's got your hand.
- That's a little close.
385
00:23:38,851 --> 00:23:42,185
- Some people, they have a fear
of being this close to somebody
and looking them in the face.
386
00:23:42,321 --> 00:23:44,588
So now you have a chance
to do that in vr.
387
00:23:44,723 --> 00:23:47,525
- Exactly. Looking in...
In the face. But, uh, okay.
388
00:23:47,659 --> 00:23:50,461
- She's kind of tall, right?
- Yeah, a little bit.
389
00:23:50,596 --> 00:23:54,064
- Well, she's in heels.
- Yeah, she's got, like,
four-inch stilettos.
390
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,799
(laughter)
391
00:23:57,035 --> 00:24:00,270
I think she's being very...
Yeah, she's getting
a little impatient, but...
392
00:24:00,406 --> 00:24:01,805
(laughter)
but I-I...
393
00:24:01,941 --> 00:24:03,607
I'm just worried
she's just gonna leave,
394
00:24:03,609 --> 00:24:05,675
'cause that's usually
what happens.
(laughter)
395
00:24:05,678 --> 00:24:08,345
- No, she will not go anywhere,
we programmed her not to.
- Okay.
396
00:24:09,548 --> 00:24:12,950
- Hi. Welcome to your first salsa lesson. Ready?
397
00:24:13,085 --> 00:24:14,885
Here we go.
398
00:24:15,021 --> 00:24:17,154
One, two, three...
399
00:24:17,289 --> 00:24:19,556
Five, six, seven.
400
00:24:19,692 --> 00:24:23,461
One, two, three, five, six, seven.
401
00:24:24,497 --> 00:24:26,931
Good.
(music)
402
00:24:38,578 --> 00:24:40,511
- He's actually now doing salsa.
403
00:24:41,647 --> 00:24:44,047
- Am I really?
- Yeah. You really are.
404
00:24:44,183 --> 00:24:46,984
- It's funny,
'cause it just feels like
I'm just rocking back and forth.
405
00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,453
- That's exactly
how it's supposed to feel.
406
00:24:49,588 --> 00:24:52,523
- And, for me,
that might be the problem.
407
00:24:52,525 --> 00:24:54,257
I can learn the steps,
408
00:24:54,260 --> 00:24:56,593
But it just...
It just feels like...
409
00:24:56,729 --> 00:24:59,129
I'm kind of just going
through the motions.
410
00:24:59,265 --> 00:25:01,198
I don't get any joy from it.
411
00:25:01,934 --> 00:25:04,001
Y'know, in that moment,
412
00:25:04,136 --> 00:25:06,437
I might as well be doing
my taxes.
413
00:25:12,378 --> 00:25:15,346
But maybe that's because
some of us are too focused
414
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,350
On, y'know, the external,
physical aspect of dancing.
415
00:25:20,619 --> 00:25:22,419
The performance.
416
00:25:22,554 --> 00:25:25,189
Maybe we just have to go deeper
than that.
417
00:25:25,958 --> 00:25:27,758
(percussive music)
418
00:25:32,431 --> 00:25:34,632
(singing in native language)
419
00:25:35,768 --> 00:25:37,501
- Dance,
from an indigenous perspective,
420
00:25:37,636 --> 00:25:40,037
It's more an expression
of the spirit
421
00:25:40,172 --> 00:25:42,973
That is exercised
through the physical body.
422
00:25:44,576 --> 00:25:46,844
There's no... Sexualized...
423
00:25:46,979 --> 00:25:49,179
Behaviours of any kind.
424
00:25:51,250 --> 00:25:53,584
It really is a discovery
of yourself.
425
00:25:55,587 --> 00:25:59,189
Some indigenous individuals
who are born and raised
in urban settings
426
00:25:59,325 --> 00:26:01,592
Have no connection
to their first nations.
427
00:26:04,863 --> 00:26:07,664
I teach my students
to reconnect
428
00:26:07,666 --> 00:26:09,433
Through pow wow dancing.
429
00:26:11,337 --> 00:26:13,136
Dance is one of those very -
430
00:26:13,272 --> 00:26:15,406
In my opinion -
crucial components
431
00:26:15,408 --> 00:26:18,542
That define a person
within their culture.
432
00:26:20,212 --> 00:26:22,212
It's a very profound experience.
433
00:26:26,418 --> 00:26:29,486
- I am cree from moose factory.
434
00:26:35,027 --> 00:26:37,695
- When I first came to the city,
I was 16.
435
00:26:40,399 --> 00:26:42,232
You can get, you know,
436
00:26:42,234 --> 00:26:45,269
Kind of swallowed up
by the city,
437
00:26:45,404 --> 00:26:48,405
Because there's so much
temptation and distractions,
438
00:26:50,709 --> 00:26:54,044
For a very long time,
I was very disconnected.
439
00:26:55,247 --> 00:26:57,247
I'm just starting to... Y'know,
440
00:26:57,382 --> 00:26:59,416
Look more into my culture.
441
00:27:03,355 --> 00:27:06,823
- How many cones have you put
on your dress this time so far?
442
00:27:06,959 --> 00:27:09,660
- Uh, close to 500?
- That's a lot.
- Yeah.
443
00:27:09,795 --> 00:27:12,395
- What I've done is,
I've created a program
444
00:27:12,531 --> 00:27:14,264
That teaches individuals
445
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,067
The various different stages
of regalia-making...
446
00:27:17,870 --> 00:27:19,603
...For powwow dancing.
447
00:27:20,539 --> 00:27:23,273
We're going to put the row cones
at the bottom,
448
00:27:23,408 --> 00:27:26,543
Followed by a row of this fringe
449
00:27:26,679 --> 00:27:28,078
On top of the cones.
450
00:27:29,682 --> 00:27:33,416
- I chose this class
because when I go to a pow wow,
451
00:27:33,419 --> 00:27:36,687
I am just overcome with, like,
emotion,
452
00:27:36,822 --> 00:27:40,090
And I want to get over that.
453
00:27:40,092 --> 00:27:43,359
Like, I want to feel
like I'm a part of it,
454
00:27:43,362 --> 00:27:45,663
Instead of just someone
that is visiting it.
455
00:27:47,566 --> 00:27:50,968
- Oftentimes, students go
to a first nation up north
456
00:27:51,102 --> 00:27:54,538
To dance for the very first time
in the circle.
457
00:27:55,774 --> 00:27:58,709
And sometimes
they will be hesitant
458
00:27:58,711 --> 00:28:00,244
To complete their outfits,
459
00:28:00,246 --> 00:28:02,112
Because once they've completed
the regalia,
460
00:28:02,114 --> 00:28:05,182
Then there's this anxiety,
this understanding that:
461
00:28:05,317 --> 00:28:08,051
Oh, my goodness,
you're on to the next step.
462
00:28:08,187 --> 00:28:10,654
Now I have to go dance.
I don't want to go dance.
463
00:28:10,789 --> 00:28:14,158
Not knowing if - and I've heard
this term before -
464
00:28:15,061 --> 00:28:17,528
If I'm... "indian enough."
465
00:28:19,998 --> 00:28:21,732
- If I, like,
don't do the steps right,
466
00:28:21,867 --> 00:28:23,600
There's where I feel
like I'll be judged.
467
00:28:26,538 --> 00:28:29,273
- So it becomes that cycle
of, like...
468
00:28:29,407 --> 00:28:32,009
"what do I do now?" right? So...
469
00:28:32,144 --> 00:28:35,112
- Cycle of fear.
- It's the cycle of fear, yeah.
470
00:28:46,091 --> 00:28:48,358
- This fear of dancing...
471
00:28:49,361 --> 00:28:50,827
...It's real.
472
00:28:50,830 --> 00:28:53,630
But it's also kind of...
Irrational.
473
00:28:53,632 --> 00:28:55,832
Who cares what others think?
474
00:28:55,834 --> 00:28:59,369
I mean, what's the worst thing
that can happen,
475
00:28:59,505 --> 00:29:02,438
If you just go out there
and do your thing?
476
00:29:02,574 --> 00:29:04,308
(classical music)
477
00:29:05,644 --> 00:29:07,177
Well, there's this.
478
00:29:15,821 --> 00:29:17,921
- I decided to tell the story
479
00:29:18,057 --> 00:29:21,391
Of one of the most fascinatingly
bizarre events
in recorded human history.
480
00:29:25,664 --> 00:29:28,932
It was in one of strasbourg's
narrow medieval streets,
481
00:29:29,067 --> 00:29:32,269
Like this one,
that it seems to have begun.
482
00:29:33,005 --> 00:29:36,273
It began with one woman,
frau troffea.
483
00:29:37,509 --> 00:29:40,844
One day in the middle of July,
in 1518,
484
00:29:40,846 --> 00:29:44,681
She steps outside of her house
and then she begins dancing.
485
00:29:44,817 --> 00:29:46,850
(classical music)
486
00:29:46,852 --> 00:29:49,786
She dances all the way
through that day,
487
00:29:49,922 --> 00:29:52,289
Rests at night;
the next morning,
488
00:29:52,424 --> 00:29:55,926
She resumes,
and she does this day after day.
489
00:29:57,696 --> 00:30:01,231
Her feet would've been bleeding,
they would've been lacerated,
490
00:30:01,233 --> 00:30:03,233
And yet she carries on and on.
491
00:30:05,004 --> 00:30:07,671
It's quite clear that this
is an involuntary dance.
492
00:30:09,074 --> 00:30:12,242
Very rapidly, they start
arriving at the conclusion
493
00:30:12,244 --> 00:30:14,578
That she's been cursed
or possessed.
494
00:30:18,050 --> 00:30:21,451
Within about a week,
more people have been consumed
495
00:30:21,586 --> 00:30:24,154
By this same irresistible urge
to dance.
496
00:30:26,658 --> 00:30:30,059
This is a really intensive
dancing.
497
00:30:30,062 --> 00:30:32,529
They just go on and on,
hour after hour.
498
00:30:32,664 --> 00:30:35,265
And you could imagine
what a diabolical,
499
00:30:35,267 --> 00:30:37,167
Bizarre spectacle
this is creating.
500
00:30:43,275 --> 00:30:46,276
Now, the chronicles disagree
on how many people,
501
00:30:46,278 --> 00:30:49,179
But it's likely
that as many as 400 people,
502
00:30:49,315 --> 00:30:50,947
By the end of July,
503
00:30:50,950 --> 00:30:54,685
Had been drawn into
this irresistible urge
to dance.
504
00:30:55,754 --> 00:30:57,988
That is when people
started dying.
505
00:31:02,761 --> 00:31:04,428
We don't know how many died.
506
00:31:05,631 --> 00:31:06,997
Speculations vary.
507
00:31:08,300 --> 00:31:10,033
One report we have,
written by a merchant,
508
00:31:10,168 --> 00:31:13,303
Who's living outside strasbourg
at exactly this time,
509
00:31:13,305 --> 00:31:15,105
Says 15 people a day.
510
00:31:18,110 --> 00:31:21,444
- What's your theory on what
lead to this strange event?
511
00:31:22,314 --> 00:31:25,315
- In my belief,
there's only one theory
that really fits the facts.
512
00:31:25,317 --> 00:31:29,720
This is an extreme example
of what we might call
mass hysteria...
513
00:31:34,526 --> 00:31:38,662
- When I looked up
the definition of mass hysteria,
514
00:31:38,797 --> 00:31:42,131
It said: "a condition
in which a large group of people
515
00:31:42,134 --> 00:31:45,002
Exhibit similar feelings
and actions."
516
00:31:47,172 --> 00:31:48,906
Including excitement.
517
00:31:51,209 --> 00:31:54,244
Which could explain
my childhood dancing.
518
00:31:56,949 --> 00:31:59,750
The environment may have
contributed to that, right?
519
00:31:59,884 --> 00:32:02,419
- Yeah.
- The environment
is really important, no?
520
00:32:02,554 --> 00:32:04,421
- You used to love dancing
and engaging with your family
521
00:32:04,556 --> 00:32:06,689
And boogying around
when you were
a very small child.
522
00:32:06,692 --> 00:32:09,893
- Yeah.
- Having said that,
I do wonder what would happen...
523
00:32:10,029 --> 00:32:11,494
It's an interesting
philosophical question.
524
00:32:11,497 --> 00:32:14,164
If somebody was brought up
in complete isolation,
525
00:32:14,299 --> 00:32:17,968
Whether they would then
still have that urge to dance.
526
00:32:18,103 --> 00:32:21,505
- You know, the dancing
that I was doing
at parties at home
527
00:32:21,507 --> 00:32:24,173
Were a lot about showing off,
in a way.
528
00:32:24,176 --> 00:32:27,311
- Yeah.
- It's like I wanted
to be part of the family.
529
00:32:28,380 --> 00:32:31,848
And they would applaud,
they would applaud wildly,
530
00:32:31,850 --> 00:32:33,750
And it was very gratifying.
531
00:32:33,752 --> 00:32:35,952
- Yeah,
and that's very powerful.
532
00:32:35,954 --> 00:32:39,656
- But when you get
to the high-school situation,
there's no more applause.
533
00:32:39,792 --> 00:32:41,458
- Yeah.
- It's the opposite, right?
534
00:32:41,460 --> 00:32:43,527
- It's the complete opposite,
yeah, because suddenly,
535
00:32:43,529 --> 00:32:45,796
People aren't necessarily
supportive of you doing it.
536
00:32:45,930 --> 00:32:48,998
It suddenly becomes
about being in the cool gang,
537
00:32:49,001 --> 00:32:50,801
Not being in the cool gang.
538
00:32:52,070 --> 00:32:54,271
- By the time
I reached grade 11...
539
00:32:54,940 --> 00:32:56,873
...Something had changed.
540
00:32:57,008 --> 00:32:59,008
(heavy rock music)
541
00:32:59,011 --> 00:33:00,510
My attitude.
542
00:33:01,513 --> 00:33:03,013
My lifestyle.
543
00:33:05,250 --> 00:33:07,884
I started going to class
less and less.
544
00:33:08,019 --> 00:33:09,219
It was just too boring.
545
00:33:10,756 --> 00:33:13,090
Eventually,
I dropped out altogether
546
00:33:13,092 --> 00:33:16,460
To front a band
called barbaric fantasy.
547
00:33:17,763 --> 00:33:19,429
It was all about partying.
548
00:33:20,565 --> 00:33:22,299
I became a stereotype.
549
00:33:23,769 --> 00:33:25,568
The dropout metal-head stoner
550
00:33:25,704 --> 00:33:28,238
That's just too cool to dance.
551
00:33:31,709 --> 00:33:33,176
(rock music stops)
552
00:33:34,179 --> 00:33:38,448
But then again,
the world of dance
is just full of stereotypes.
553
00:33:41,353 --> 00:33:43,120
(soft music)
554
00:33:56,401 --> 00:33:57,901
- Black girls who can't dance.
555
00:33:58,036 --> 00:33:59,735
Black girls who won't dance.
556
00:33:59,871 --> 00:34:02,339
Black girls who pop lock.
557
00:34:02,474 --> 00:34:04,408
Black girls who clap hands.
558
00:34:04,542 --> 00:34:06,876
♪ black girls who got groove ♪
559
00:34:07,012 --> 00:34:09,112
♪ black girls who got moves ♪
560
00:34:09,114 --> 00:34:11,114
♪ black girls who dance hard ♪
561
00:34:11,250 --> 00:34:13,082
♪ black girls who cry hard ♪
562
00:34:13,085 --> 00:34:15,151
♪ oh ooh she can't dance ♪
563
00:34:15,154 --> 00:34:17,554
♪ ooh she just can't dance ♪
564
00:34:17,689 --> 00:34:19,222
♪ ooh she can't dance ♪
565
00:34:19,357 --> 00:34:21,424
♪ ooh she just cannot dance ♪
566
00:34:21,427 --> 00:34:23,626
♪ black girls who read books ♪
567
00:34:23,762 --> 00:34:26,229
♪ black girls who write books ♪
568
00:34:26,364 --> 00:34:29,933
I wrote a song called
black girls who can't dance.
569
00:34:31,369 --> 00:34:33,437
The message is that...
570
00:34:33,571 --> 00:34:35,304
Black women...
571
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,273
Are dynamic
572
00:34:37,409 --> 00:34:40,644
And all...
Kinds of people and...
573
00:34:40,778 --> 00:34:43,112
Some are gonna love to dance
and some aren't.
574
00:34:43,115 --> 00:34:45,848
♪ look at her funny
but she don't see don't care ♪
575
00:34:45,984 --> 00:34:48,184
♪ don't stop don't look down
till we get there ♪
576
00:34:48,187 --> 00:34:50,387
♪ black girls you can't see ♪
577
00:34:50,522 --> 00:34:52,656
♪ black girls you can't be ♪
578
00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:54,657
♪ black girls who grow up ♪
579
00:34:54,793 --> 00:34:56,526
♪ black girls who get free ♪
580
00:34:56,528 --> 00:34:58,261
♪ oh ooh she can't dance ♪
581
00:34:58,396 --> 00:35:02,666
I grew up as the only black girl
in the classroom,
582
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,335
One of very few in my school.
583
00:35:05,470 --> 00:35:08,738
I didn't dance as a child.
I was really shy.
584
00:35:09,208 --> 00:35:12,409
I don't think there are any
good dancers in my family.
585
00:35:12,543 --> 00:35:15,211
The expectation for, uh...
586
00:35:15,214 --> 00:35:17,147
For black folks and black women
587
00:35:17,282 --> 00:35:19,883
Is to be a particular kind
of dancer,
588
00:35:20,018 --> 00:35:22,485
And to be good in a certain way.
589
00:35:22,621 --> 00:35:25,154
And I'm just not the person
that, you know,
590
00:35:25,157 --> 00:35:28,358
Someone's gonna see in the...
In a club and say, "wow.
591
00:35:28,493 --> 00:35:30,093
You're a good dancer."
592
00:35:30,228 --> 00:35:33,029
♪ oh ooh she can't dance
ooh she just can't dance ♪
593
00:35:33,164 --> 00:35:35,298
♪ ooh she can't dance ♪
594
00:35:35,433 --> 00:35:39,102
- Do you feel judged for that
at public events?
- Yes.
595
00:35:39,237 --> 00:35:40,870
It happened to me recently.
596
00:35:41,006 --> 00:35:43,306
Everyone was, you know,
around me and...
597
00:35:43,441 --> 00:35:46,176
And sort of, like:
"come on, dance."
598
00:35:46,311 --> 00:35:48,712
And I just didn't. I couldn't,
you know,
599
00:35:48,714 --> 00:35:50,147
Because it's just...
600
00:35:51,716 --> 00:35:53,249
It's just not...
601
00:35:53,385 --> 00:35:55,919
There is an expectation
in their mind,
602
00:35:56,054 --> 00:35:58,655
And... And it's not me and,
um...
603
00:35:58,790 --> 00:36:00,923
And, you know, I...
604
00:36:00,926 --> 00:36:02,926
I just... I can't do it.
605
00:36:03,061 --> 00:36:05,194
♪ no matter how hard I try ♪
606
00:36:05,197 --> 00:36:08,798
♪ I never was
what they expected ♪
607
00:36:10,268 --> 00:36:12,602
♪ never not at all... ♪
608
00:36:14,339 --> 00:36:17,607
♪ I never fit
into their boxes ♪
609
00:36:17,743 --> 00:36:20,243
♪ they were just too small ♪
610
00:36:20,378 --> 00:36:22,612
♪ oh oh oh ♪
611
00:36:22,614 --> 00:36:25,415
I want to dance
even when it's uncomfortable.
612
00:36:27,419 --> 00:36:30,220
And I want to let... Go.
613
00:36:30,355 --> 00:36:32,088
♪ ooh she can't dance ♪
614
00:36:32,223 --> 00:36:34,491
♪ ooh she just can't dance ♪
615
00:36:34,626 --> 00:36:36,793
♪ ooh she can't dance
ooh... ♪
616
00:36:36,928 --> 00:36:38,527
And I'll just keep trying.
617
00:36:39,231 --> 00:36:42,165
And maybe it'll become easier
to do.
618
00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:45,635
♪ she just can't dance
ooh she can't dance ♪
619
00:36:45,770 --> 00:36:47,637
♪ ooh she just cannot dance ♪
620
00:36:47,773 --> 00:36:49,739
♪ ooh she can't dance ♪
621
00:36:49,874 --> 00:36:52,041
♪ ooh she just can't dance ♪
622
00:36:52,177 --> 00:36:54,110
♪ ooh she can't dance ♪
623
00:36:54,112 --> 00:36:56,846
♪ ooh she just cannot dance ♪
624
00:36:56,981 --> 00:36:58,281
♪ she can't dance ♪
625
00:36:58,417 --> 00:37:00,684
♪ oh she just can't dance ♪
626
00:37:00,818 --> 00:37:02,285
♪ ooh she can't dance ♪
627
00:37:02,420 --> 00:37:05,521
♪ ooh she just cannot dance ♪♪
628
00:37:06,824 --> 00:37:10,593
- The desire for some
to keep trying to connect
with dancing
629
00:37:10,596 --> 00:37:13,463
Almost seems like a...
A powerful human drive.
630
00:37:13,598 --> 00:37:15,332
(trilling)
631
00:37:17,669 --> 00:37:19,602
Sure, animals dance,
632
00:37:19,738 --> 00:37:23,006
But the idea
is that they basically do it
to attract a mate.
633
00:37:27,012 --> 00:37:29,812
And we do, too,
but as far as we know,
634
00:37:29,948 --> 00:37:31,781
We humans,
635
00:37:31,783 --> 00:37:34,984
We may be the only species
in the universe
636
00:37:34,986 --> 00:37:37,020
To actually dance
for pure pleasure.
637
00:37:40,292 --> 00:37:42,492
- Dance is a fundamental
human activity.
638
00:37:43,895 --> 00:37:46,295
Everything from our heartbeat
to the way our brain works,
639
00:37:46,298 --> 00:37:48,164
The way that our limbs work,
640
00:37:48,166 --> 00:37:52,669
That rhythm we have in our life
is dance.
641
00:38:00,778 --> 00:38:04,647
- But if dancing is really
just a human thing,
642
00:38:04,782 --> 00:38:06,349
How do you explain this?
643
00:38:11,923 --> 00:38:13,790
- If you think
about what it means
644
00:38:13,925 --> 00:38:16,059
For something to be living,
645
00:38:16,194 --> 00:38:18,561
It goes back to the idea
of it moving.
646
00:38:19,364 --> 00:38:23,132
This is aristotle.
He says basically something
that self-propels itself
647
00:38:23,135 --> 00:38:25,268
Is what we can call
something that's living.
648
00:38:26,338 --> 00:38:28,371
So that doesn't mean
it's just biological.
649
00:38:28,373 --> 00:38:30,140
It can also be...
Completely artificial.
650
00:38:31,343 --> 00:38:32,876
- What's totem doing now?
651
00:38:33,010 --> 00:38:35,478
- Yeah, so right now,
it's running like a...
652
00:38:35,613 --> 00:38:39,415
Neural model,
so you actually see these things
as like neurons bursting.
653
00:38:39,551 --> 00:38:42,719
It's actually a mathematical
model of consciousness
in many ways.
654
00:38:46,791 --> 00:38:48,891
Totem is a kind
of artificial entity
655
00:38:49,027 --> 00:38:51,895
That has cameras that look at...
656
00:38:51,897 --> 00:38:54,397
The change of movement
around it.
657
00:38:57,502 --> 00:38:59,702
And every time you move,
it detects changes--
658
00:38:59,704 --> 00:39:01,170
- So it's interacting
with movement.
659
00:39:01,306 --> 00:39:03,239
- It's interacting
with movement in that way.
660
00:39:03,975 --> 00:39:06,776
- So it's essentially dancing
with those around it.
661
00:39:06,778 --> 00:39:08,645
- Yeah.
662
00:39:08,780 --> 00:39:10,447
- So if you're trying
to replicate humans
in a machine...
663
00:39:10,449 --> 00:39:12,915
- Of course.
- ...It makes sense
that you teach it to dance.
664
00:39:13,051 --> 00:39:14,417
- Of course. Absolutely.
665
00:39:15,787 --> 00:39:17,387
- I'm no expert,
666
00:39:17,522 --> 00:39:20,390
But it seems that interacting
with the environment
667
00:39:20,525 --> 00:39:22,125
Is exactly what dancing is.
668
00:39:23,795 --> 00:39:25,661
It's just that in totem's case,
669
00:39:25,797 --> 00:39:27,863
He doesn't look human,
670
00:39:27,866 --> 00:39:29,966
And his dancing
certainly doesn't.
671
00:39:33,405 --> 00:39:35,138
But this here,
672
00:39:35,140 --> 00:39:36,606
That's a different story.
673
00:39:40,945 --> 00:39:43,113
Who or what is alter?
674
00:39:44,449 --> 00:39:46,149
- He's a new species,
675
00:39:46,284 --> 00:39:47,784
New artificial species.
676
00:39:50,488 --> 00:39:54,424
- What makes alter special
is that he's armed
677
00:39:54,426 --> 00:39:56,693
With a battery of motion sensors
678
00:39:56,828 --> 00:39:58,428
And facial-recognition cameras,
679
00:39:58,430 --> 00:40:00,163
Which means he can adapt
680
00:40:00,298 --> 00:40:01,798
To whatever dance partner.
681
00:40:04,403 --> 00:40:06,969
Why teach a robot
to improvise dance?
682
00:40:07,105 --> 00:40:10,173
- Well, because we don't want
robots to mimic something
683
00:40:10,308 --> 00:40:12,208
Which human beings do.
684
00:40:12,343 --> 00:40:16,112
We need something
that's coming from embodiment
of himself, right?
685
00:40:18,183 --> 00:40:20,450
This authentic movement
from alter
686
00:40:20,452 --> 00:40:22,018
Is his own one.
687
00:40:23,254 --> 00:40:24,920
It's his invention, not us.
688
00:40:24,923 --> 00:40:27,023
That's something
that we want to see.
689
00:40:29,194 --> 00:40:32,995
- Do you think
you're ever gonna get to a point
where you can teach a robot
690
00:40:33,131 --> 00:40:35,498
To want to dance
and they like to dance?
691
00:40:36,801 --> 00:40:39,202
- If the robot can have
a metacognition,
692
00:40:39,204 --> 00:40:41,504
Or a metafeeling,
then that's possible.
693
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:51,614
- So, eventually,
alter may have legs...
694
00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:53,483
And be able to fully dance.
695
00:40:53,485 --> 00:40:55,818
- Yeah.
- And if alter fully dances,
696
00:40:55,820 --> 00:40:57,653
It will be original dancing.
697
00:40:57,656 --> 00:41:00,289
- Right. Right.
- As unique as a fingerprint.
- Yeah.
698
00:41:00,425 --> 00:41:01,858
This is the ultimate goal.
699
00:41:05,964 --> 00:41:07,564
- It's not lost on me
700
00:41:07,566 --> 00:41:11,300
That if robots suddenly start
to love to dance,
701
00:41:11,303 --> 00:41:15,038
That will actually make them
more human than me.
702
00:41:21,913 --> 00:41:25,014
But then... Maybe one day,
703
00:41:25,149 --> 00:41:27,317
They too will go to high school.
704
00:41:30,255 --> 00:41:31,921
And wake up asking themselves:
705
00:41:33,258 --> 00:41:34,891
Where did that love go?
706
00:41:45,403 --> 00:41:47,504
And did I ever really have it?
707
00:41:52,744 --> 00:41:54,610
And if I did,
708
00:41:54,746 --> 00:41:56,479
Where did it begin?
709
00:42:02,454 --> 00:42:04,988
Where does dancing begin?
710
00:42:10,829 --> 00:42:13,629
- I observed
that one-year-old children
711
00:42:13,632 --> 00:42:16,566
Would very often
spontaneously move to music.
712
00:42:16,701 --> 00:42:19,736
And that's really
where the idea started.
713
00:42:29,447 --> 00:42:31,947
Infants offer
a fantastic opportunity to study
714
00:42:31,950 --> 00:42:34,583
What might be there
from the start,
715
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:39,155
What might perhaps even be...
Hardwired or inborn.
716
00:42:40,392 --> 00:42:41,857
Because, you know,
717
00:42:41,859 --> 00:42:43,859
With a two-
or three-year-old child,
718
00:42:43,995 --> 00:42:45,928
You don't know anymore.
Is it learned?
719
00:42:45,931 --> 00:42:49,265
Did they observe it
in their parents
or in their environment?
720
00:42:49,267 --> 00:42:51,901
But with four-,
five-month-old infants,
that's unlikely.
721
00:42:57,876 --> 00:42:59,609
Okay, ready?
722
00:42:59,611 --> 00:43:01,511
One, two, three.
723
00:43:02,414 --> 00:43:04,480
(music to the safety dance
playing)
724
00:43:11,956 --> 00:43:13,823
♪ we can dance if we want to ♪
725
00:43:13,825 --> 00:43:16,025
♪ we can leave your friends
behind ♪
726
00:43:16,027 --> 00:43:18,961
♪ 'cause your friends
don't dance
and if they don't dance ♪
727
00:43:19,097 --> 00:43:20,963
♪ well they're are no friends
of mine ♪
728
00:43:21,099 --> 00:43:23,799
♪ I say we can go
where we want to ♪
729
00:43:23,935 --> 00:43:25,702
♪ a place
where they will never find ♪
730
00:43:25,704 --> 00:43:28,705
♪ and we can act like we come
from out of this world ♪
731
00:43:28,707 --> 00:43:31,240
♪ leave the real one far behind
and we can dance ♪
732
00:43:31,242 --> 00:43:33,242
Dansez!
733
00:43:33,378 --> 00:43:35,978
Obviously, we didn't want
the parents to influence
the baby' behaviour,
734
00:43:36,114 --> 00:43:37,780
So the parents could not hear
the music.
735
00:43:37,782 --> 00:43:39,849
They were just there
to hold the baby.
736
00:43:39,984 --> 00:43:43,819
♪ ah we can go when we want to
the night is young and so am I ♪
737
00:43:43,955 --> 00:43:46,989
♪ and we can dress real neat
from our hats to our feet ♪
738
00:43:47,124 --> 00:43:49,058
♪ and surprise 'em
with the victory cry ♪
739
00:43:49,060 --> 00:43:50,993
We looked
at the baby's behaviour
740
00:43:50,995 --> 00:43:54,464
And the coding
when they produced
rhythmic behaviours.
741
00:43:54,598 --> 00:43:56,732
♪ you can act real rude
and totally removed
742
00:43:56,868 --> 00:43:58,735
♪ and I can act
like an imbecile ♪
743
00:43:58,737 --> 00:44:01,337
And we had a three-dimensional
motion-tracking system
744
00:44:01,473 --> 00:44:04,340
That allows you to match,
or map,
745
00:44:04,476 --> 00:44:07,009
The time of the baby's movements
746
00:44:07,145 --> 00:44:10,212
On the musical time
with the greatest precision.
747
00:44:10,348 --> 00:44:12,148
And so that's really
where we could say:
748
00:44:12,283 --> 00:44:15,418
Are they in time with music?
Are they not in time with music?
749
00:44:15,553 --> 00:44:18,488
♪ everybody's taking a chance
a-a-ance ♪
750
00:44:18,622 --> 00:44:20,256
We had a range.
751
00:44:22,527 --> 00:44:24,226
When you could, in a sense, say:
752
00:44:24,362 --> 00:44:25,962
Some were good
and some were bad.
753
00:44:27,899 --> 00:44:31,000
The least successful was a baby
that wouldn't do anything.
754
00:44:34,572 --> 00:44:36,972
♪ oh it's the safety dance ♪♪
(song fading)
755
00:44:37,108 --> 00:44:38,974
In most cases,
they actually did react.
756
00:44:38,976 --> 00:44:41,244
And I think
that was the first big surprise.
757
00:44:41,378 --> 00:44:44,447
I mean, the babies,
they were not told what to do.
758
00:44:44,582 --> 00:44:47,049
They were just played this music
and then spontaneously,
759
00:44:47,185 --> 00:44:49,385
They would start to move
to the music.
760
00:44:49,521 --> 00:44:51,688
(mid-tempo music)
761
00:45:06,270 --> 00:45:10,106
- Do you remember anything
about being in that experiment?
- No, I don't.
762
00:45:13,077 --> 00:45:14,577
My eyes just...
763
00:45:15,346 --> 00:45:17,112
And I was reaching for you.
764
00:45:17,115 --> 00:45:19,215
- I just remember the woman
asked me
765
00:45:19,350 --> 00:45:22,085
Not to interfere with my face,
766
00:45:22,219 --> 00:45:24,687
So I must stay like this,
not to interact.
767
00:45:24,822 --> 00:45:26,456
It was very difficult for me.
768
00:45:30,428 --> 00:45:32,895
(chuckling)
(speaking french)
769
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,106
- When we told him
that he was involved
770
00:45:44,241 --> 00:45:45,775
In a movie years ago,
he asked:
771
00:45:45,777 --> 00:45:47,977
"what?
You made money out of me,
772
00:45:47,979 --> 00:45:50,413
And you never told me?" so...
(laughter)
773
00:45:53,317 --> 00:45:55,918
- That's... Pretty much in time.
It's, uh...
774
00:45:56,054 --> 00:45:59,588
It's amazing, you know,
given your very young age.
775
00:45:59,591 --> 00:46:02,525
And...
And that is very expressive.
776
00:46:04,062 --> 00:46:06,929
You got if not the highest,
one of the highest,
777
00:46:07,065 --> 00:46:09,932
Because it was so original,
this hand movement, you know?
778
00:46:10,868 --> 00:46:13,335
- What is your relationship
with dancing today?
779
00:46:13,471 --> 00:46:16,472
- Well, when I was in my...
Teenage time,
780
00:46:16,608 --> 00:46:20,810
I was not as cool about dancing
as I actually am.
781
00:46:21,813 --> 00:46:24,146
- Do you remember
what caused you
to suddenly think
782
00:46:24,282 --> 00:46:26,015
It was cool to dance?
783
00:46:26,150 --> 00:46:30,553
- Well, I don't care as much
as I did about the...
784
00:46:30,555 --> 00:46:32,522
What the others will think
about me.
785
00:46:34,425 --> 00:46:38,027
- She was not moving
as much as other babies,
786
00:46:38,162 --> 00:46:42,031
But, zélie, you were in between,
uh, listening to the music
787
00:46:42,166 --> 00:46:45,901
And being curious
about what you were hearing,
and at the same time,
788
00:46:46,037 --> 00:46:48,437
Feeling some sort of urge
to move with it.
789
00:46:48,573 --> 00:46:49,872
So, like, both.
790
00:46:50,842 --> 00:46:52,508
- Do you dance now?
791
00:46:53,043 --> 00:46:55,244
- I don't really dance
in front of people,
792
00:46:55,380 --> 00:46:58,514
Because I feel stupid,
I feel like my movements
are weird,
793
00:46:58,650 --> 00:47:01,217
And sometimes I can be
self-conscious about it.
794
00:47:02,253 --> 00:47:04,253
- These are all
different movements.
795
00:47:04,388 --> 00:47:06,255
They don't repeat.
796
00:47:06,390 --> 00:47:09,458
There is no indication there
that there is anything...
Uh, you know,
797
00:47:09,593 --> 00:47:11,127
Kind of aligning with the music.
798
00:47:28,012 --> 00:47:30,279
- The take-away for me
on all that research
799
00:47:30,414 --> 00:47:33,616
Is that if there is
such a thing
as a dancing gene,
800
00:47:33,751 --> 00:47:36,619
Maybe not all of us get it.
801
00:47:36,621 --> 00:47:39,488
And like these teens
and myself,
802
00:47:39,624 --> 00:47:43,292
Whether or not you're wild
for dancing
when you're really young
803
00:47:43,294 --> 00:47:47,396
Doesn't mean you still will
or won't be when you grow up.
804
00:47:48,198 --> 00:47:51,934
Which just shows how complicated
this whole thing is.
805
00:48:03,915 --> 00:48:06,715
No one can say for sure
806
00:48:06,851 --> 00:48:09,018
When dancing started
on this planet.
807
00:48:09,153 --> 00:48:12,121
Some say as long
as 30,000 years ago...
808
00:48:13,558 --> 00:48:17,526
...In the heart of the world's
most ancient civilizations.
809
00:48:25,002 --> 00:48:27,637
When I first decided
to come here,
810
00:48:27,771 --> 00:48:31,673
I was told africa's full
of cultures steeped in dancing.
811
00:48:31,809 --> 00:48:34,210
(up-tempo music)
812
00:48:34,212 --> 00:48:37,179
It's woven into the very fabric
of their traditions.
813
00:48:41,352 --> 00:48:44,420
You're never gonna find
a chorophobe there.
814
00:48:46,557 --> 00:48:48,190
And they were right.
815
00:48:49,159 --> 00:48:50,459
I found two.
816
00:49:43,814 --> 00:49:45,748
(up-tempo music)
817
00:51:44,935 --> 00:51:47,269
- What would you do
with that kind of a gift?
818
00:51:54,879 --> 00:51:56,612
(singing)
819
00:52:17,701 --> 00:52:19,768
(indistinct chatter)
820
00:52:20,571 --> 00:52:22,538
(laughter)
821
00:52:24,641 --> 00:52:26,408
- Do your kids dance?
- Yes.
822
00:52:26,543 --> 00:52:28,244
Are you ready?
823
00:52:28,378 --> 00:52:30,179
- Yes.
- What's it called again?
824
00:52:30,181 --> 00:52:32,448
- A million dreams.
- A million dreams.
825
00:52:32,583 --> 00:52:34,450
- No, a bizillion dreams.
826
00:52:34,452 --> 00:52:36,619
- A bizillion dreams? Okay.
(laughing)
827
00:52:37,788 --> 00:52:39,655
(indistinct chatter)
828
00:52:42,092 --> 00:52:44,593
I definitely do not want
829
00:52:44,728 --> 00:52:48,097
To pass my fear of dancing
along to them.
830
00:52:48,232 --> 00:52:50,799
♪ a million dreams ♪
831
00:52:50,934 --> 00:52:53,169
And they love to dance...
832
00:52:53,303 --> 00:52:55,638
In a way that I admire.
833
00:52:56,474 --> 00:52:58,941
And wish that I could emulate.
834
00:52:59,877 --> 00:53:01,544
Bravo! Bravo!
835
00:53:01,678 --> 00:53:04,880
- Thank you!
(indistinct chatter)
836
00:53:05,016 --> 00:53:07,550
- How about your husband?
Does he like to dance?
837
00:53:07,684 --> 00:53:11,086
(laughing)
- he maybe hates dancing
more than I do.
838
00:53:11,688 --> 00:53:13,689
- What did you guys do
for your wedding?
839
00:53:13,691 --> 00:53:16,759
- I couldn't imagine
how you could have a wedding
without a dance.
840
00:53:16,761 --> 00:53:19,595
- So what did you wind up doing?
- We ended up eloping.
841
00:53:23,033 --> 00:53:25,634
- Why do you hate dancing
so much?
842
00:53:25,769 --> 00:53:28,571
- Yeah, I think it's something
that I just never really felt.
843
00:53:28,705 --> 00:53:31,106
Like, I've never felt compelled
to it.
844
00:53:31,241 --> 00:53:34,977
Music doesn't... Uh,
cause me to want to dance.
845
00:53:35,112 --> 00:53:36,779
Um... And, y'know, frankly,
846
00:53:36,913 --> 00:53:40,249
Looking at 95% of the people
who do dance, I...
847
00:53:40,384 --> 00:53:42,718
Would prefer
not to look like that.
848
00:53:43,253 --> 00:53:45,788
- Is that one of the reasons
why you guys got together?
849
00:53:45,922 --> 00:53:47,790
- Yeah, that's why.
That was the only thing.
850
00:53:47,924 --> 00:53:50,659
That's why I married him,
so I wouldn't have to dance.
851
00:53:50,794 --> 00:53:52,661
(indistinct chatter)
852
00:53:55,866 --> 00:54:00,002
- If you have kids, it's easy,
because there's no expectation
that you're going to be...
853
00:54:00,137 --> 00:54:02,204
Dancing all night because
you're chasing children around,
854
00:54:02,340 --> 00:54:06,475
Putting them to bed
or you're leaving at 8:00
or whatever it is anyway.
855
00:54:06,477 --> 00:54:08,010
- Please don't drop the pie.
856
00:54:08,145 --> 00:54:10,145
- So the fringe benefit
of having kids
857
00:54:10,281 --> 00:54:12,815
Is that it gives you an out
for dancing.
858
00:54:12,949 --> 00:54:14,683
- It's the only reason
I had them.
859
00:54:15,819 --> 00:54:17,619
(indistinct chatter)
860
00:54:17,621 --> 00:54:19,621
- ..Bring too much stuff?
861
00:54:19,757 --> 00:54:22,223
- So have you given up
altogether on the idea
862
00:54:22,359 --> 00:54:25,894
Of dancing at weddings
or at clubs
with the rest of your friends?
863
00:54:25,896 --> 00:54:27,529
- I think so.
864
00:54:27,664 --> 00:54:29,965
I think even if someone
taught me how,
865
00:54:30,100 --> 00:54:33,569
I don't... I don't think now,
at this age, I could...
I could do it.
866
00:54:33,704 --> 00:54:37,238
- Okay, are we good?
- Just a few more bags.
- Oh, my god.
867
00:54:37,374 --> 00:54:40,241
- And yet now you're telling me
that once a year,
868
00:54:40,377 --> 00:54:41,943
You do, in your own way,
869
00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:43,778
Get your groove on.
870
00:54:43,781 --> 00:54:46,114
- Yes.
(chuckling)
871
00:54:46,250 --> 00:54:48,017
Everyone good?
Everyone has shoes?
872
00:54:50,654 --> 00:54:54,723
- And we have to drive
an hour and a half out of town
to get there.
873
00:54:54,725 --> 00:54:56,392
- Yeah.
874
00:55:15,145 --> 00:55:17,579
- Turns out
eric's also found a way
875
00:55:17,715 --> 00:55:20,149
To deal with his fear
of dancing.
876
00:55:22,820 --> 00:55:26,488
- I remember walking home
and just being so excited
877
00:55:26,490 --> 00:55:28,223
That I had discovered
this thing.
878
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,495
That comfort zone
and that unconscious state,
879
00:55:33,497 --> 00:55:34,963
And that, uh...
880
00:55:36,500 --> 00:55:38,367
...Y'know, enjoyment.
881
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,841
A couple friends and I
have been running
this weekly event,
882
00:55:45,976 --> 00:55:48,377
And it's a fairly radical idea.
883
00:55:51,915 --> 00:55:53,782
- For me,
it's kind of cathartic,
884
00:55:53,784 --> 00:55:56,185
Almost like a therapy,
885
00:55:56,187 --> 00:55:58,920
'cause you don't care about
what other people are doing
when you're doing it,
886
00:55:59,056 --> 00:56:01,657
And you don't care
about how you look
to other people.
887
00:56:04,194 --> 00:56:06,295
- You kind of get
into your own head space.
888
00:56:08,331 --> 00:56:10,799
And it's just how your body
is responding to the music.
889
00:56:14,004 --> 00:56:15,737
- In this basement,
890
00:56:15,739 --> 00:56:17,940
Eric and other chorophobes
have found a way
891
00:56:18,074 --> 00:56:20,476
To get back into dancing.
892
00:56:20,478 --> 00:56:22,211
(rock music)
893
00:56:22,679 --> 00:56:24,279
In total darkness.
894
00:56:26,083 --> 00:56:28,350
(rock music)
895
00:56:34,624 --> 00:56:37,025
- Darkness is such an equalizer.
896
00:56:39,763 --> 00:56:43,232
- With the lights off,
it's no longer a visual event.
897
00:56:45,035 --> 00:56:48,237
It takes on, you know,
more abstract meaning.
898
00:56:51,174 --> 00:56:52,907
- You're unable
to perceive others,
899
00:56:52,910 --> 00:56:54,710
And you're not being perceived.
900
00:56:57,380 --> 00:56:59,581
(rock music)
901
00:56:59,716 --> 00:57:03,018
- The first couple of songs,
I was, like:
This is very weird.
902
00:57:04,921 --> 00:57:07,922
- When I first walked in,
I didn't realize
how dark it was gonna be.
903
00:57:08,526 --> 00:57:12,461
I thought I was dancing
next to someone, but I wasn't.
It was a table.
904
00:57:12,596 --> 00:57:14,263
(rock music)
905
00:57:25,809 --> 00:57:27,609
- I struggle a lot with anxiety,
906
00:57:27,744 --> 00:57:29,611
So I think coming here...
907
00:57:29,746 --> 00:57:33,148
Is a way that I can do
something social
908
00:57:33,283 --> 00:57:35,651
That doesn't involve words.
909
00:57:40,290 --> 00:57:42,958
- The dark dance
is the first time
910
00:57:43,093 --> 00:57:45,961
I've danced regularly
in any capacity.
911
00:57:56,907 --> 00:57:58,740
(music fading)
912
00:58:02,846 --> 00:58:04,580
- With this pow wow
you're going to,
913
00:58:04,714 --> 00:58:07,783
How long has it been
since you've been back up north?
914
00:58:07,785 --> 00:58:09,318
- At least, like, 20 years.
915
00:58:12,656 --> 00:58:15,324
When I was younger,
I was placed in foster care.
916
00:58:15,993 --> 00:58:18,126
I was, like, in... Like,
917
00:58:18,128 --> 00:58:20,496
At least 10 or more
foster homes.
918
00:58:21,932 --> 00:58:23,532
Non-indigenous.
919
00:58:23,934 --> 00:58:26,668
I don't think they were trying
to make me fit in their culture;
920
00:58:26,804 --> 00:58:28,837
They just didn't know anything
about my culture.
921
00:58:32,142 --> 00:58:34,610
- When we were flying
to thunder bay today,
922
00:58:34,744 --> 00:58:36,945
Aileen was sharing how...
923
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,915
Her childhood
was not so... Rosy.
924
00:58:42,752 --> 00:58:44,219
And I explained to her
925
00:58:44,354 --> 00:58:46,855
How you are the master
of your storytelling.
926
00:58:48,158 --> 00:58:51,026
That you...
Are able to rewrite...
927
00:58:52,095 --> 00:58:53,762
...Your new reality
928
00:58:53,897 --> 00:58:56,198
Into something positive.
929
00:58:57,901 --> 00:59:01,570
- I didn't have the opportunity
to do this when I was younger.
930
00:59:01,705 --> 00:59:03,705
It was something that hurt me.
931
00:59:04,841 --> 00:59:07,576
And, uh, now that I'm older,
932
00:59:07,711 --> 00:59:11,179
It's... Just, like,
I can give it to myself,
933
00:59:11,181 --> 00:59:13,448
So why not?
(chuckling)
934
00:59:13,584 --> 00:59:15,584
(indistinct chatter)
935
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:20,389
Also... I'm happy that I get
to share this with my daughters.
936
00:59:22,859 --> 00:59:25,193
And they get to, like, be...
937
00:59:25,329 --> 00:59:28,664
Welcomed into the pow wow
family.
938
00:59:39,843 --> 00:59:41,443
(polka music)
939
00:59:46,750 --> 00:59:48,317
(clapping)
940
01:00:09,706 --> 01:00:12,974
- So your solution for dancing
is polka.
941
01:00:13,110 --> 01:00:15,310
(lindsay laughing)
- yeah.
942
01:00:15,445 --> 01:00:16,878
I really love polka.
943
01:00:20,117 --> 01:00:22,618
It's the only music
that I can dance to.
944
01:00:28,525 --> 01:00:30,325
- Why do you think that is?
945
01:00:30,460 --> 01:00:31,926
- Well,
the music's really happy,
946
01:00:32,062 --> 01:00:35,230
Um, it feels very festive,
it feels really easy to do.
947
01:00:41,771 --> 01:00:44,506
- Do you like polka.
- Can't stand it.
948
01:00:48,412 --> 01:00:51,113
- And yet, you dance to it.
- Yeah.
949
01:00:52,416 --> 01:00:54,216
I wouldn't do it
for anybody else.
950
01:00:57,554 --> 01:01:00,689
- Do you think the costume
makes it easier
for you to dance?
951
01:01:00,691 --> 01:01:04,092
- Yeah, I think it's almost like
a... A bit of armour.
952
01:01:04,227 --> 01:01:06,395
Like, you're protecting yourself
a little bit.
953
01:01:08,365 --> 01:01:11,099
And I do feel
like I'm oktoberfest lindsay,
954
01:01:11,234 --> 01:01:14,169
As opposed
to just regular lindsay
who doesn't dance.
955
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,073
(cheering)
956
01:01:19,576 --> 01:01:21,376
(crowd cheering)
957
01:01:26,183 --> 01:01:29,117
- Umpapa music - surprise,
surprise -
958
01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:30,752
Isn't really my thing.
959
01:01:37,060 --> 01:01:38,560
But then again,
960
01:01:38,695 --> 01:01:40,429
Neither is dancing in the dark.
961
01:01:44,601 --> 01:01:47,002
I don't get why I would want
to do that.
962
01:01:47,004 --> 01:01:49,237
Like, I don't know
what I'm supposed to feel.
963
01:01:50,407 --> 01:01:52,807
- Well, don't...
Shut your brain off
a little bit.
964
01:01:52,810 --> 01:01:54,443
I think you're thinking
too much.
965
01:01:58,681 --> 01:02:01,082
- There is a beauty in...
966
01:02:01,218 --> 01:02:02,451
Letting go.
967
01:02:07,024 --> 01:02:08,690
- I kind of resent the fact
that society
968
01:02:08,826 --> 01:02:11,159
Expects me to dance.
969
01:02:11,161 --> 01:02:15,029
Like... It's almost like
this is an act of rebellion
970
01:02:15,032 --> 01:02:16,765
For me not to dance.
971
01:02:16,900 --> 01:02:19,167
- I think
you expect you to dance.
- I expect me to dance?
972
01:02:19,302 --> 01:02:22,037
- Yeah. Well, why are you here
if you're not expecting yourself
to dance?
973
01:02:22,172 --> 01:02:24,940
- Well, clearly I feel
like I need to be fixed
on some level.
974
01:02:32,249 --> 01:02:34,516
- Perhaps there's a certain type
of flow-like state
975
01:02:34,651 --> 01:02:37,185
We might want to get into...
976
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:39,988
Where we'd lose
that sense of consciousness.
977
01:02:40,123 --> 01:02:42,824
- It sounds like you're saying
that someone like me
978
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:46,528
Would have to almost, like,
lose their mind for a second.
979
01:02:46,530 --> 01:02:47,963
- Yeah.
980
01:02:53,069 --> 01:02:56,738
- As I'm listening
to all these people
talking about letting go...
981
01:02:57,541 --> 01:02:59,841
...That's kind of tapped
into something for me.
982
01:03:02,212 --> 01:03:04,012
Since I was a kid,
983
01:03:04,147 --> 01:03:07,516
Have I truly allowed myself
to fully let go?
984
01:03:10,353 --> 01:03:13,087
Look, I'm happy just trying
to understand
985
01:03:13,090 --> 01:03:15,356
Why I don't dance anymore.
986
01:03:15,359 --> 01:03:17,559
I never really set out
to fix that.
987
01:03:20,897 --> 01:03:23,031
But if I was to let go,
988
01:03:23,166 --> 01:03:25,333
To lose my mind
for a second...
989
01:03:26,570 --> 01:03:28,203
...I'd have to be alone.
990
01:03:38,916 --> 01:03:41,683
So to tune out,
I put on vr goggles.
991
01:03:42,586 --> 01:03:44,786
So I couldn't see
the world outside.
992
01:03:45,856 --> 01:03:49,691
And I told my crew
to go as far away as possible.
993
01:03:51,862 --> 01:03:54,262
Can you see me from up there?
994
01:03:54,397 --> 01:03:57,465
- Well, you're pretty small
in the frame,
but I see you clearly.
995
01:03:57,601 --> 01:03:59,067
- Okay. Okay.
- Yeah.
996
01:03:59,803 --> 01:04:02,270
Okay, I'm gonna put music on.
997
01:04:02,272 --> 01:04:03,805
- Okay, good luck.
- Alright.
998
01:04:05,141 --> 01:04:06,942
(dance music)
999
01:04:07,810 --> 01:04:09,611
♪ time was drifting ♪
1000
01:04:09,613 --> 01:04:12,280
♪ this rock had got to roll ♪
1001
01:04:12,415 --> 01:04:15,717
♪ so I hit the road
and made my getaway ♪
1002
01:04:17,354 --> 01:04:20,922
♪ restless feeling
really got a hold ♪
1003
01:04:22,159 --> 01:04:25,927
♪ I started searching
for a better way ♪
1004
01:04:28,632 --> 01:04:32,567
♪ and I kept on looking
for a sign
in the middle of the night ♪
1005
01:04:32,569 --> 01:04:34,903
♪ but I couldn't see the light ♪
1006
01:04:35,038 --> 01:04:37,038
♪ no I couldn't see the light ♪
1007
01:04:38,107 --> 01:04:42,176
♪ I kept on looking for a way
to take me through the night ♪
1008
01:04:42,179 --> 01:04:44,378
♪ couldn't get it right ♪
1009
01:04:44,381 --> 01:04:46,948
♪ I couldn't get it right ♪♪
1010
01:04:51,054 --> 01:04:52,854
Ahem. Oh.
1011
01:04:54,791 --> 01:04:56,358
Ah, fuck.
1012
01:04:58,061 --> 01:04:59,461
I fell.
1013
01:05:03,567 --> 01:05:06,067
- So did you let yourself loose
with the music?
1014
01:05:06,069 --> 01:05:08,603
- Yeah, I think a little bit too loose.
1015
01:05:08,739 --> 01:05:12,540
I thought I was closer to land and then suddenly I... I hit a chunk of rock,
1016
01:05:12,676 --> 01:05:14,876
And I thought I was gonna fall on the ground,
1017
01:05:15,012 --> 01:05:18,212
But I fell in the water. I'm fuckin' drenched.
1018
01:05:18,215 --> 01:05:21,549
And not only that,but I'm covered in goose shit.
1019
01:05:21,685 --> 01:05:23,952
(cameraman laughing)
1020
01:05:24,487 --> 01:05:28,089
I know you guys are pissing in your pants right now.
(laughter)
1021
01:05:32,295 --> 01:05:34,029
I'm having trouble...
(inhaling)
1022
01:05:34,031 --> 01:05:35,763
...When I breathe,
it kind of hurts.
1023
01:05:35,899 --> 01:05:37,966
I don't think I cracked a rib,
but...
1024
01:05:37,968 --> 01:05:39,567
'cause I landed on a rock.
1025
01:05:39,703 --> 01:05:43,037
- Just before you fell,
how did it feel
1026
01:05:43,173 --> 01:05:46,074
To let yourself go...
On the music?
1027
01:05:47,243 --> 01:05:49,010
- Fuck,
these are covered in shit.
1028
01:05:50,647 --> 01:05:52,013
Um...
1029
01:05:53,917 --> 01:05:57,018
Y'know, I love music,
so I was really into the song.
1030
01:06:00,724 --> 01:06:02,223
The sun's on my face.
1031
01:06:03,860 --> 01:06:05,593
It's a beautiful environment.
1032
01:06:06,997 --> 01:06:08,697
I enjoyed it for a second.
1033
01:06:12,869 --> 01:06:14,635
But did I feel...
1034
01:06:14,638 --> 01:06:16,871
Is it enough, what I felt,
1035
01:06:16,873 --> 01:06:20,241
To make me want to jump up
every time there's music
at a place?
1036
01:06:21,278 --> 01:06:23,845
Um... I don't know.
1037
01:06:39,763 --> 01:06:42,864
So what's your personal view
of dancing?
1038
01:06:45,502 --> 01:06:47,902
- In terms of enjoying it,
I don't.
1039
01:06:49,172 --> 01:06:52,240
Uh, I've never...
Never enjoyed dancing.
1040
01:06:52,375 --> 01:06:55,477
I've always found it, um,
really quite uncomfortable.
1041
01:06:57,380 --> 01:07:00,114
- I don't like dancing,
so, y'know, like...
1042
01:07:01,184 --> 01:07:04,385
...I just know dance music
that would kind of, uh,
1043
01:07:04,521 --> 01:07:05,820
Compel me to dance.
1044
01:07:07,590 --> 01:07:09,090
- I don't dance.
1045
01:07:09,226 --> 01:07:11,726
- I only start dancing
when I get really... Y'know,
1046
01:07:11,862 --> 01:07:13,661
In an altered state
of consciousness.
1047
01:07:13,797 --> 01:07:16,297
- When you're drunk.
- Yeah, right, when I'm drunk.
1048
01:07:17,066 --> 01:07:19,000
- I-I-I rarely say this,
1049
01:07:19,136 --> 01:07:21,536
But when I was really,
really young,
1050
01:07:21,538 --> 01:07:24,338
I was, uh,
I was a bit overweight,
1051
01:07:24,341 --> 01:07:27,074
And I was a bit shy.
1052
01:07:27,210 --> 01:07:28,543
When there was music
playing at my house,
1053
01:07:28,678 --> 01:07:30,545
There was a big party
going on at my house,
1054
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:32,413
I used to hide in the bathroom
and dance.
1055
01:07:32,549 --> 01:07:35,483
- Uh, yeah, personally,
over the years,
1056
01:07:35,485 --> 01:07:38,886
Um, I've had, uh,
some issues around that.
1057
01:07:39,022 --> 01:07:41,555
Um, I've...
I've worked through that.
1058
01:07:41,691 --> 01:07:44,225
- When I first started dancing,
it was because, in high school,
1059
01:07:44,361 --> 01:07:45,960
My boyfriend invited me
to go,
1060
01:07:45,962 --> 01:07:48,696
And there were two group classes
I was supposed to attend,
1061
01:07:48,832 --> 01:07:50,631
But I completely missed
the first one,
1062
01:07:50,767 --> 01:07:53,635
'cause I was just sitting
in my car,
terrified to go inside.
1063
01:07:53,769 --> 01:07:57,372
- I went to college
not having danced a single step.
1064
01:07:57,507 --> 01:08:01,709
And most painful memory was, uh,
going to high-school prom,
1065
01:08:01,845 --> 01:08:04,912
And I said, "well,
I'm going to the prom,
but I'm not dancing.
1066
01:08:05,048 --> 01:08:07,248
I always thought that dancing
was just not my thing,
1067
01:08:07,383 --> 01:08:09,250
And there's no way
I could do it.
1068
01:08:09,385 --> 01:08:12,053
- Have you ever heard
of chorophobia?
- No.
1069
01:08:12,856 --> 01:08:15,256
- It's the fear of dancing.
- Right. Okay.
1070
01:08:15,258 --> 01:08:17,591
- So I'm a chorophobe.
- Me, too.
1071
01:08:17,594 --> 01:08:20,195
- Are you a choro--
- yeah, he is.
1072
01:08:21,698 --> 01:08:23,331
- How do you feel if I tell you
1073
01:08:23,466 --> 01:08:26,801
That there are hundreds
of thousands of people,
1074
01:08:26,937 --> 01:08:28,736
Actually all over the world,
1075
01:08:28,872 --> 01:08:30,972
That have the same fear
of dancing?
1076
01:08:52,963 --> 01:08:54,562
- I'm a little nervous.
1077
01:08:59,902 --> 01:09:02,704
But, like, y'know,
I'm actually doing something
1078
01:09:02,706 --> 01:09:05,573
That I've always wanted to do
and...
1079
01:09:05,709 --> 01:09:07,408
There's really no going back.
1080
01:09:09,179 --> 01:09:13,715
- At one point today, she felt:
Oh, my goodness, it's time,
1081
01:09:13,849 --> 01:09:15,850
And I don't know
if I can do this.
1082
01:09:19,656 --> 01:09:22,056
- I know
that this is where I belong,
1083
01:09:22,191 --> 01:09:23,591
And...
1084
01:09:23,727 --> 01:09:26,794
I just need to get over
the fear of, like...
1085
01:09:26,796 --> 01:09:28,863
Um, basically...
1086
01:09:28,998 --> 01:09:31,232
Just dancing and just, like,
1087
01:09:31,234 --> 01:09:33,868
Giving myself... To it.
1088
01:09:36,806 --> 01:09:38,406
(singing)
1089
01:09:42,879 --> 01:09:44,546
(singing and drumming)
1090
01:09:57,694 --> 01:10:00,161
(feedback)
- testing.
1091
01:10:00,297 --> 01:10:02,429
One of my students is here
today,
1092
01:10:02,565 --> 01:10:05,165
And we're here to talk
about the fear of dancing.
1093
01:10:05,301 --> 01:10:07,702
Some of you may
not understand that entirely,
1094
01:10:07,837 --> 01:10:10,037
But as a first-time dancer
myself,
1095
01:10:10,173 --> 01:10:12,373
When I was nine years old,
1096
01:10:12,375 --> 01:10:15,443
I was very scared to dance
at the pow wow for the fear
of making a mistake...
1097
01:10:16,713 --> 01:10:18,313
...For the fear of being judged.
1098
01:10:19,716 --> 01:10:24,118
And so my dear friend aileen...
Can make her way over here
1099
01:10:24,254 --> 01:10:25,653
Into our circle.
1100
01:10:29,325 --> 01:10:31,192
- Whoo!
(singing and drumming)
1101
01:10:36,599 --> 01:10:38,066
Oh, my god.
1102
01:10:38,801 --> 01:10:40,068
Yeah.
1103
01:10:45,875 --> 01:10:47,075
Oh.
1104
01:10:59,422 --> 01:11:01,289
(soft music)
1105
01:11:33,323 --> 01:11:37,525
♪ the speed of love returning ♪
1106
01:11:40,996 --> 01:11:44,265
♪ to my depraved heart
1107
01:11:46,068 --> 01:11:48,002
♪ like a song ♪
1108
01:11:49,572 --> 01:11:53,841
♪ carries the memory still ♪
1109
01:11:55,312 --> 01:11:59,013
♪ you waited
till the river froze ♪
1110
01:12:02,485 --> 01:12:05,353
♪ to come and find me ♪
1111
01:12:08,024 --> 01:12:10,024
♪ with your voice ♪
1112
01:12:11,961 --> 01:12:15,163
♪ speaking the words
of my throat ♪
1113
01:12:16,432 --> 01:12:19,200
♪ that dream you dream ♪
1114
01:12:19,335 --> 01:12:21,703
♪ of falling... ♪
1115
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:27,375
- I'm aware of the feeling
that people have
when they dance.
1116
01:12:28,845 --> 01:12:30,878
They are taken over
by something.
1117
01:12:32,448 --> 01:12:34,982
Which is a tribal connection,
and joy.
1118
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,120
And I know I'm missing out.
1119
01:12:39,255 --> 01:12:42,790
♪ we were never forced to love ♪
1120
01:12:43,993 --> 01:12:47,895
♪ you would have to lose
your mind ♪
1121
01:12:50,065 --> 01:12:53,334
♪ you would have to lose
your mind ♪
1122
01:12:55,338 --> 01:12:58,172
♪ you would have to lose
your mind ♪
1123
01:13:10,085 --> 01:13:11,819
(phone ringing)
1124
01:13:12,889 --> 01:13:15,422
- Hello?
- Hi. Francine? It's michael.
1125
01:13:15,425 --> 01:13:18,091
- Hey, michael.
- So I'll see you at 2:00.
1126
01:13:18,094 --> 01:13:19,994
- Okay, I'll see you then.
1127
01:13:21,631 --> 01:13:25,633
♪ when icarus was falling... ♪
1128
01:13:26,770 --> 01:13:29,102
- When I danced on that beach,
1129
01:13:29,105 --> 01:13:32,639
Sure, it didn't turn out
exactly as planned,
1130
01:13:32,642 --> 01:13:34,442
But I did feel something.
1131
01:13:35,979 --> 01:13:37,378
But that was me alone.
1132
01:13:38,714 --> 01:13:40,915
Would I get that same feeling
1133
01:13:41,050 --> 01:13:43,985
If I tried to really let go
with someone else?
1134
01:13:44,119 --> 01:13:47,655
♪ woke up in her bed
last night ♪
1135
01:13:50,260 --> 01:13:52,427
♪ her features were gold ♪
1136
01:13:54,797 --> 01:13:56,664
So what if I went back...
1137
01:13:57,333 --> 01:13:59,467
...To where dancing stopped
for me?
1138
01:14:02,137 --> 01:14:03,671
It's been a long time.
1139
01:14:04,941 --> 01:14:06,474
I had a locker right here.
1140
01:14:07,877 --> 01:14:09,143
I think...
1141
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:12,079
...2412.
1142
01:14:12,081 --> 01:14:13,681
I think it's 2412.
1143
01:14:16,752 --> 01:14:18,786
And what if I called a woman
1144
01:14:18,922 --> 01:14:22,623
I secretly wanted to ask
to dance back in grade 9,
1145
01:14:22,758 --> 01:14:24,225
But just couldn't?
1146
01:14:27,497 --> 01:14:30,298
And what if she agreed
to meet me?
1147
01:14:32,168 --> 01:14:34,601
♪ you would have to lose
your mind ♪
1148
01:14:34,737 --> 01:14:36,804
I'm a little freaked out.
(chuckling)
1149
01:14:36,940 --> 01:14:40,107
I'm really, uh, not feeling
very comfortable
about the whole thing.
1150
01:14:43,513 --> 01:14:46,948
♪ you would have to lose
your mind ♪
1151
01:15:06,002 --> 01:15:07,869
(music)
1152
01:15:21,550 --> 01:15:23,216
And what if,
1153
01:15:23,352 --> 01:15:25,619
When we finally did dance,
1154
01:15:25,755 --> 01:15:28,456
I didn't get the same feeling
I had on that beach?
1155
01:15:32,762 --> 01:15:34,362
Or back when I was a kid?
1156
01:15:39,969 --> 01:15:42,770
Being cured
at the end of a film,
1157
01:15:42,905 --> 01:15:44,906
That's a hollywood ending.
1158
01:15:48,577 --> 01:15:51,412
♪ your mind... ♪
1159
01:15:51,414 --> 01:15:55,550
But maybe the next time
an opportunity to dance
does come up...
1160
01:15:56,719 --> 01:15:58,185
...I will.
1161
01:16:00,589 --> 01:16:02,189
Or maybe I won't.
1162
01:16:04,326 --> 01:16:06,593
♪ your mind... ♪
1163
01:16:06,596 --> 01:16:09,797
And what if... That was okay?
1164
01:16:09,932 --> 01:16:12,166
♪ your mind... ♪
1165
01:16:14,670 --> 01:16:17,171
♪ your mind... ♪♪
1166
01:16:27,349 --> 01:16:29,850
(disco music)
1167
01:16:36,225 --> 01:16:38,626
♪ pump up the jam
pump it up ♪
1168
01:16:38,628 --> 01:16:42,029
♪ while you feet are stompin'
and the jam is pumpin' ♪
1169
01:16:42,165 --> 01:16:44,098
♪ look at here
the crowd is jumpin' ♪
1170
01:16:44,233 --> 01:16:46,199
♪ pump it up
a little more ♪
1171
01:16:46,335 --> 01:16:48,169
♪ get the party going
on the dance floor ♪
1172
01:16:48,171 --> 01:16:49,903
♪ seek us
that's where the party's at ♪
1173
01:16:50,039 --> 01:16:52,206
♪ and you'll find out
if you're too bad ♪
1174
01:16:53,175 --> 01:16:55,742
♪ I don't want
a place to stay ♪
1175
01:16:55,878 --> 01:16:58,612
♪ get your booty
on the floor tonight
make my day ♪
1176
01:16:58,748 --> 01:17:00,581
Are you gonna do
a little dance for me?
1177
01:17:00,716 --> 01:17:02,583
- Dance? Like, yeah.
(laughter)
1178
01:17:04,587 --> 01:17:06,587
Yeah, that's enough.
(laughing)
1179
01:17:06,723 --> 01:17:08,923
- Give me your best move.
- Oh, my god.
1180
01:17:08,925 --> 01:17:11,324
♪ make my day make my day ♪
(laughing)
1181
01:17:11,327 --> 01:17:14,528
I really need alcohol now.
(laughing)
1182
01:17:14,663 --> 01:17:17,598
- Would you do a little dance
for me right now?
1183
01:17:17,733 --> 01:17:20,134
- No chance.
- There is no chance?
1184
01:17:20,136 --> 01:17:21,735
- Absolutely none.
1185
01:17:21,871 --> 01:17:24,338
- Stephane's gonna dance.
Woo-hoo! Woo!
1186
01:17:24,340 --> 01:17:26,873
You have fear of dancing?
(laughing)
1187
01:17:26,876 --> 01:17:28,475
♪ and the jam is pumpin' ♪
1188
01:17:28,611 --> 01:17:30,744
♪ look at here
the crowd is jumpin' ♪
1189
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:34,949
I'm asking everybody I interview
to do a little dance for me.
(fry laughing)
1190
01:17:35,084 --> 01:17:37,151
So are you interested
in doing that?
1191
01:17:37,153 --> 01:17:39,220
- I'll do a little finger dance.
(chuckling)
1192
01:17:40,156 --> 01:17:42,089
- Alright.
- There you are.
- Okay.
1193
01:17:42,091 --> 01:17:44,692
♪ get your booty
on the floor tonight ♪
1194
01:17:44,694 --> 01:17:47,161
♪ make my day ♪
- before we danced,
1195
01:17:47,163 --> 01:17:49,697
You said you were at a 10
on feeling uncomfortable.
1196
01:17:49,699 --> 01:17:51,966
So where would you say
you are now?
1197
01:17:52,101 --> 01:17:53,601
- Uh, nine and a half.
(laughing)
1198
01:17:54,770 --> 01:17:56,369
♪ make my day ♪
1199
01:17:56,372 --> 01:17:59,707
♪ make my make my
make make my day ♪♪
1200
01:17:59,842 --> 01:18:02,443
♪ make my day
make my day ♪♪
1201
01:18:02,578 --> 01:18:04,545
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