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'My name is Dionne Bromfield,
and Amy Winehouse was my
godmother.'
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'We had a special bond and our
relationship was unique.'
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'Amy's support inspired me to
follow my dream of becoming a
singer.'
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'And she signed me to her
label, Lioness,
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when I was just 13 years old.'
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'I performed all over the world
in front of thousands of
people,
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all thanks to my godmother's
love and encouragement.'
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'But one day, everything
changed.'
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The singer, Amy Winehouse, has
been found dead in her north
London flat,
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just 27 years old. The singer
has...
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'I remember the moment I was
told that Amy died.'
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'I was just about to walk on
stage.'
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'My world crumbled, and I shut
down.'
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Obviously, it's always hard
when you lose someone close to
you,
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but when you lose someone and
it's like, it's worldwide
news,
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then that must be, like, even
more difficult. No,
definitely.
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'Since Amy died,
I've hardly spoken about her.'
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'Even to those closest to me.'
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'But now, ten years on,
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I feel like I need to confront
my feelings and open up.'
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'I know it's going to be
difficult and uncomfortable,
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but I hope I'll reconnect
with the Amy I knew and loved,
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as well as deal with some of
the grief I still feel at
losing her.'
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Everyone sees Amy as Amy
Winehouse, and I never see her
as that.
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When I think of Amy, I think of
Amy without the beehive,
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without the eyeliner, at home,
prancing around, just being
Amy.
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My godmother, it's just that,
another piece of the family.
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'I first met Amy
when I was six years old.'
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'She was good friends with my
mum who was also in the music
business.'
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'The more time I spent around
Amy, the closer we became,
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and eventually she asked my mum
if she could be my godmother.'
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She was definitely like
another mother figure to me.
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You know, Amy never had kids
and I know she wanted kids,
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that was, like,
her purpose for life really,
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being like an amazing wife
and an amazing mother.
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And I think with me, I kinda
gave her that sense of
motherhood.
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Even though she wasn't my mum
or my sister,
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it was almost like...
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...a sister and a mother kind
of just compiled in to one,
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and that's why it was just so
unique.
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'I'm close to the same age Amy
was when she died.'
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'I now feel the time is right
to unlock some of those
memories.'
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Guess it's kinda like
my little Amy memory box.
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It's got, like, pictures
and some nice little stuff
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that she's given me
that I really, really cherish.
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I've got, like, really
naturally curly hair, right?
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And she was like,
"Can I straighten your hair?"
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And I was like, "Yeah".
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And she whipped out the ironing
board and the iron and she was
like,
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"When I was younger, my nan
used to put my hair on the
ironing board
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and kinda iron my hair that
way."
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I was like, "Amy,
you are not ironing my hair."
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She used to always, like, sit
me down
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and kind of want to have me
like a little dolly and do me
up.
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And I quite liked it,
it was nice, you know,
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being pampered all the time.
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This one is myself, Amy and
Kelly. This was in Kelly's
dressing room.
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She actually clipped on some of
her extensions onto my hair,
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and she'd given me
the wisped eyeliner,
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but yeah, we just went back
to Amy's house after this.
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But we told her to take
the pink wig off.
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But this was a fun night,
it was a nice night.
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Really, really nice night.
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This picture was in St Lucia,
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so this is 2008,
round about Christmas time,
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and she's got her little Jheri
curl.
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This is like the Amy
that was at home.
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Her hair would always
be naturally curly.
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And St Lucia was a bit of
the, like, rebirth for Amy
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because it was where she had
gotten herself off of drugs,
completely,
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which I think a lot of people
fail to realise.
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'I want to revisit some of the
places that me and Amy used to
go to.'
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'I think this will help me
reconnect with her.'
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'But I'm also nervous
of what it may stir up for me.'
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Soho's been like a massive
music influence on me,
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from such a young age actually.
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I've performed at Ronnie
Scott's, which is literally the
next road.
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Jazz After Dark which was a
huge location for Amy.
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They have a really good house
band and she'd jump up so many
times
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and just have a little
sing-song with them, which was
nice.
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Oh I haven't been here in ages.
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The Specials, they were, like,
such a huge influence on Amy.
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I remember her playing
a lot of that ska music.
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I knew a lot about, like,
reggae because, you know, I
come from...
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I've got Jamaican in me
so that was around,
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but ska, I wasn't that aware
of, so Amy definitely
introduced me to that.
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And she definitely,
her style as well.
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You know, that kind of rude boy
look, she definitely tried to
emulate.
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The Ronettes. They were cool.
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You know, Amy as well, she got
a lot of her hair influence
from them.
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Yeah, she loved the Ronettes.
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I said to her, "Oh, have you
heard this record?"
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And she was like,
"Why d'you like that?"
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And then she was like, "Oh,
then you're gonna like this
stuff."
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She used to kinda give me,
like, assignments.
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"Study this track
and tell me what you think."
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And it was almost her being
like,
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"If you wanna be the best,
you've gotta learn from the
best."
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And when I'm learning literally
from the best,
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and she's telling me to learn
from what she thinks is the
best,
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I'm gonna bloody learn. Like,
of course I'm gonna learn.
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She was giving me
what maybe she didn't have.
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Someone's been through it
already and they know how it
goes,
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it's nice, you've kind of got
that blanket, I guess.
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Someone that actually cares
about you professionally and
personally,
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and willing to help.
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And boy, she did help.
She really did.
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'I spent evenings at Amy's
house all the time,
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and she would always encourage
me to sing with her.'
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'But one day,
something amazing happened.'
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[man]Team up.
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I was 12 at the time, I think.
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She knew I could sing and I
think she was trying to get me
out of my shell.
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She was like, "What's your
favourite song right now?"
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If I Ain't Got You by Alicia
was out at the time.
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And she was like, "OK, let's
sing it, I'll play guitar."
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# Some people live for the
fortune
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# Some people live
Just for the fame... #
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After we'd done it, she was
like, "Let's put it on
YouTube",
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and I was like, "Er, OK, cool."
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And I remember going to sleep
and waking up and then it was a
thing.
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A couple of friends from school
were like,
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"Oh, I saw that video of you
singing on YouTube."
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I looked on YouTube and I was
like,
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"Oh, there's a couple,
like, 25,000 here."
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And then like the next day I
was like, "Oh, like, a hundred
thousand".
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And it became a thing.
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# Nothing at all
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# If it ain't you, baby... #
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And yeah, that was kinda like
the start, I guess,
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of pushing kind of
the musical mentor... route.
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[indistinct singing]
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Dionne, Dionne, Dionne,
Dionne... Dionne, ladies and
gentlemen!
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Sometimes somebody comes into
your life and they are, like,
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there's a reason why they're
there.
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And she's one of those people
in my life.
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'My best friends, Rea and
Emineh,
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have been with me
through everything.'
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'But even with them,
I've struggled to talk about
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how Amy's death affected me.'
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'This is the first time in ten
years that I'll properly talk
about it.'
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Are you excited, like, for
this, to come out and to...
Yeah.
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...to be spoken about?
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I wanted to this, one, for
myself.
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There's only so much
you can hold inside,
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and I've wanted to keep silent
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because I wanted to, like,
respect her
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and kind of let her
kind of be at peace.
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But then I also feel like,
there's a side to her that
people should know.
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I remember you first telling me
about Amy being your godmother.
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We were in a English class
and I said,
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"Oh, yeah,
my godmother's Amy Winehouse."
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She went, "And my godmother's
Britney Spears."
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Oh, didn't believe her?
I didn't really know.
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I thought, I'm not telling
anyone that anymore.
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Yeah, I didn't believe her
for a long time.
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So when did you then believe
me?
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When Amy came to the school.
Right.
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It was chaos.
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It was absolute chaos, and the,
like, paps were all around
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and we could not, like,
back out of the school.
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I haven't been able to grieve
her loss, I don't think.
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I hadn't really experienced
loss like that ever in my life.
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And I still haven't.
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So, for it to be, like,
on a global scale,
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it's, like, super amplified
and you feel really, like...
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...small.
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But you also feel like
a bit of a burden on people
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if you try and say things to
them, so it got to the point
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where it was like, I'm just not
gonna say anything.
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So, why have you started doing
this documentary now? Why now?
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I dunno, it just felt right.
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If you asked me this five years
ago or even, like, two years
ago,
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I would've said no.
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Just because I don't feel like
I was in the right headspace
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to kind of address things
that are really personal.
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There was probably only so much
I could probably take, and...
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I don't know how much I
would've been able to... I
don't wanna cry.
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You can cry.
Let it out.
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I'm gonna cry.
Don't!
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I don't wanna cry, but...
It's OK.
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But you're finally letting
this massive weight off your
shoulders
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and gonna be able to breath
for the first time.Yeah.
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We're very proud of you.
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[sighs]
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It felt like I had to keep it
in, but I didn't wanna...
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I didn't wanna let out
because I was too embarrassed
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to show that I was hurting.
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It's normal, like,
it's really normal.
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Everyone grieves differently,
that's one thing I've learnt.
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Some people scream and cry,
some people don't talk, some
people...
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I don't think there is a right
way, but I'm glad you're doing
this.
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Yeah.
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It was really nice talking to
them.
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They understood
something new about me.
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Just feels nice to kind of
unravel another level of
friendship.
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Never really sat down and,
like,
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allowed them to see
the vulnerable side of me.
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.
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'Sylvia Young's Theatre School
was where Amy went
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and she insisted I went there
too.'
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'It was a place filled with
many happy memories for us
both.'
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'I've come back today
to speak to Sylvia herself
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and see what she remembers
of that time.'
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Hi, it's Dionne.
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So I've literally just clocked
that that is Amy.
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This one right here.
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When she was younger, I'm
assuming she's probably about
14 or 15.
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She's never changed,
she's still got those big eyes.
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Hiya.
Hello, Dionne.
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Oh, it's lovely to see you.
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The last time I was actually
in these doors I think it...
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I was 15, 16, in my last...
16, yeah.Yeah.
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I'd be really interested to
know, like, what Amy was like
as a student.
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I always said that Amy was
brilliant. Brilliantly clever.
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We put her up a year.
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Our English teacher thought
she'd be a novelist or a
journalist/
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Obviously we were hoping that
her career went with the
singing,
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which was the obvious career
for her.
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She always spoke highly
of the singing teacher, Ray.
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Yeah, Ray Lamb, our Head of
Music. Yeah, he loved her.
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And Ray did a number of
recordings with her,
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which we sent off to the
National Youth Jazz Orchestra.
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She got her audition,
and then started with them,
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which was a great start
to her career.
228
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I was very fond of Amy.
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I just thought she was a wild
spirit and Amy was Amy.
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She broke rules
right, left and centre
231
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but she always apologised
beautifully.Oh, yeah.
232
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So, do you remember the
conversation you had with Amy
regarding me?
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Yeah, Amy phoned me and she
said "I've got this gorgeous
girl,
234
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my goddaughter, and she can
sing,
235
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and I think she should be with
you." Oh.
236
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And I said "Well, if you say
she can sing..." Yeah, yeah,
yeah.
237
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"...then she can sing."
And I said, "Love to meet her."
238
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I think Amy saw the vision.
239
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She not only had experienced
this school herself,
240
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so she knew what they were
great at, but she knew what I
was lacking.
241
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It's quite funny now
that I kicked off a big fuss
242
00:14:13,922 --> 00:14:16,510
and was, like, crying
to not come to this school
243
00:14:16,579 --> 00:14:22,275
because, you know, I would do
it over again, I really would,
it's...
244
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It's a great school. It really
is.
245
00:14:28,212 --> 00:14:31,974
Did you feel like there was
a dramatic change in how I was
246
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before Amy had passed and
after?
247
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I did feel there was a change.
I think were far more serious.
248
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Really? You were thinking more
deeply, yeah.
249
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I think it did affect you,
obviously, erm,
250
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because she was so special to
you. Mm.
251
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I didn't realise how much
Amy's passing affected me,
252
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and it showed.
253
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And I feel like the Dionne then
had no idea what was to come,
and...
254
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...that's what's quite sad.
255
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It's just sad.
256
00:15:12,670 --> 00:15:14,914
Ladies and gentlemen, Amy
Winehouse.
257
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[cheering, applause]
258
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# Meet you downstairs
In the bar and heard
259
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# Your rolled up sleeves
In your skull T-shirt... #
260
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'In 2008, Amy had done
261
00:15:32,897 --> 00:15:36,073
what no other British female
artist had done before,
262
00:15:36,142 --> 00:15:39,490
by winning five awards
at the Grammys.'
263
00:15:39,559 --> 00:15:42,044
I do remember the night
Amy won the Grammys.
264
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I really, really wanted to go,
265
00:15:43,873 --> 00:15:46,946
but wasn't allowed to go
because I had school the next
day.
266
00:15:47,877 --> 00:15:50,846
I did see the Grammys. They
weren't actually at her house.
267
00:15:50,950 --> 00:15:53,055
When I saw them
they were at Management,
268
00:15:53,124 --> 00:15:56,265
but that's typical Amy, all her
accolades were never there.
269
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They were either with her mum
or her dad or wherever she left
them.
270
00:16:01,822 --> 00:16:04,929
'With this achievement, she had
a vision to create a label
271
00:16:04,998 --> 00:16:06,689
to help other young artists.'
272
00:16:06,758 --> 00:16:09,761
'And following the viral
success of our clip on YouTube,
273
00:16:09,830 --> 00:16:13,627
I was going to be the first
person she signed to her label,
Lioness.'
274
00:16:13,731 --> 00:16:16,803
[man]Big smile, Dionne. Lovely.
275
00:16:16,872 --> 00:16:22,084
When I met Dionne, she was
singing and I went, "Hey, you
can sing!"
276
00:16:22,188 --> 00:16:24,914
She's so much better than I was
at that age, really.
277
00:16:25,018 --> 00:16:27,331
I mean, just so proud of her,
really.
278
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And it's... it's very
effortless.
279
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You know, Dionne's only 13.
280
00:16:32,681 --> 00:16:36,581
This is the thing I say to
Dionne and her mum all the
time,
281
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I'm like, "Listen, Dionne will
always have offers."
282
00:16:40,275 --> 00:16:43,002
But at the same time I'm like,
I kinda don't want you to
283
00:16:43,105 --> 00:16:44,831
cos I want you to do it all
with me.
284
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I don't want anyone else
to have you.
285
00:16:46,971 --> 00:16:48,973
The signing was really natural.
286
00:16:49,042 --> 00:16:52,977
"Working" with somebody
who's like family,
287
00:16:53,046 --> 00:16:56,394
it didn't feel like a chore or
a job.
288
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It just was like,
I love what I'm doing
289
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and I'm so lucky
to be able to have somebody
290
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who can give me the tools
to do it on a great level.
291
00:17:04,782 --> 00:17:08,579
Dionne knows she'll always
have my whole support, my
whole support.
292
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If she called me up and said,
"Amy, d'you think I should do
this song?"
293
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I'd be like, "Dionne, you know
what song you should do,
294
00:17:15,379 --> 00:17:16,621
you know yourself."
295
00:17:16,725 --> 00:17:19,659
"You know what suits you,
you know what you love more,
296
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so do what you love,
like, do what you love."
297
00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,705
'Someone who worked closely
with Amy on Back to Black
298
00:17:31,809 --> 00:17:33,983
was her Chief Engineer, Jon
Moon.'
299
00:17:34,053 --> 00:17:36,469
'He also helped me
with my first album.'
300
00:17:37,435 --> 00:17:40,611
'As I piece together the
memories of that time in my
life,
301
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I am keen to see him again.'
302
00:17:46,893 --> 00:17:49,378
Hello, hello. How are you?
303
00:17:49,482 --> 00:17:51,484
I haven't been here in so long.
Yeah.
304
00:17:51,553 --> 00:17:52,933
You look well.
Thank you.
305
00:17:53,002 --> 00:17:54,625
Always look well.
So do you.
306
00:17:54,728 --> 00:17:58,111
I don't think I actually know,
like, how did you meet Amy?
307
00:17:58,180 --> 00:18:01,735
Oh, how did I meet Amy?
Right, well, erm...
308
00:18:02,943 --> 00:18:04,704
That was here, that was here.
309
00:18:04,773 --> 00:18:07,603
And d'you remember it, like,
quite vividly?Vividly.
310
00:18:07,672 --> 00:18:08,846
Really?
Vividly.
311
00:18:08,915 --> 00:18:10,710
She came in, red high heels,
312
00:18:10,779 --> 00:18:13,782
and she turned towards me
with those eyes and she's like,
313
00:18:13,885 --> 00:18:16,957
"No, no, no, don't want
anything posh, just give me a
58."
314
00:18:17,026 --> 00:18:20,823
And slapped the microphone out
the way. "OK, I'll give you a
58."
315
00:18:20,927 --> 00:18:23,378
And that's kind of what we used
a lot of the time.
316
00:18:23,447 --> 00:18:26,105
She came in for a lot of
rehearsals and recordings
317
00:18:26,174 --> 00:18:28,383
and these would go on
for days at a time.
318
00:18:28,452 --> 00:18:31,006
This became her home.
And in the booth there,
319
00:18:31,075 --> 00:18:33,940
she'd set it up like a lounge,
like a living room.Yeah.
320
00:18:34,009 --> 00:18:37,668
# Well, sometimes I go out by
myself
321
00:18:37,771 --> 00:18:40,878
# And I look across the
water...
322
00:18:40,947 --> 00:18:44,813
She knew who she was and she
was not gonna be influenced
323
00:18:44,882 --> 00:18:47,678
by whatever was popping at that
time.
324
00:18:47,747 --> 00:18:50,646
And I think that's why everyone
loved her so much,
325
00:18:50,715 --> 00:18:52,924
is she was just authentically
Amy.
326
00:18:53,925 --> 00:18:58,137
She always used to say, "How
can you do things that you
don't really feel
327
00:18:58,206 --> 00:19:00,173
or it's not you?"
328
00:19:00,242 --> 00:19:04,591
She just couldn't really hide
who she was, it was just there.
329
00:19:04,660 --> 00:19:06,248
# Oh, won't you come on over?
330
00:19:06,317 --> 00:19:09,044
# Stop making a fool out of
me... #
331
00:19:09,113 --> 00:19:13,393
Amy was very enthusiastic
about things that she loved,
332
00:19:13,462 --> 00:19:15,913
and she talked a lot about you
before I met you
333
00:19:15,982 --> 00:19:18,191
and saying
what an amazing voice you had,
334
00:19:18,295 --> 00:19:20,987
and, "You've gotta meet Dionne,
she's incredible."
335
00:19:21,090 --> 00:19:22,540
She had a vision for you,
336
00:19:22,609 --> 00:19:26,095
and she was so brilliant
at sharing that vision.
337
00:19:26,165 --> 00:19:29,340
She put people together in a
way that was so insightful,
338
00:19:29,409 --> 00:19:32,240
and I think that came across
not just in her music
339
00:19:32,343 --> 00:19:34,345
but in the way she was.
340
00:19:34,414 --> 00:19:36,865
And the way people perceived
her, you know?
341
00:19:36,968 --> 00:19:40,213
I think that's one of the
things that I found difficult,
342
00:19:40,282 --> 00:19:44,044
the media was.. that was just
a millisecond picture
343
00:19:44,148 --> 00:19:45,977
that they took there, you know?
344
00:19:46,046 --> 00:19:51,224
And it just... it never
justified how much of a being
she was. Yeah.
345
00:19:53,433 --> 00:19:58,335
I was aware of what was
happening, but I chose to not
look at that
346
00:19:58,438 --> 00:20:00,060
because the Amy that I saw
347
00:20:00,129 --> 00:20:03,892
was always a beautiful, caring,
loving person.
348
00:20:03,961 --> 00:20:06,170
Like, I don't care or give a
crap
349
00:20:06,274 --> 00:20:09,035
about what everyone else
is saying outside
350
00:20:09,138 --> 00:20:11,831
because what I see is this
person.
351
00:20:15,524 --> 00:20:17,595
She's just 13 years old
352
00:20:17,664 --> 00:20:20,978
and this is her first
appearance on British
television.
353
00:20:21,047 --> 00:20:25,293
She's here performing with her
godmother, Amy Winehouse.
354
00:20:25,396 --> 00:20:28,848
Ladies and gentlemen,
Miss Dionne Bromfield.
355
00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:33,093
[backing singers]# Ooh, ooh...
356
00:20:33,197 --> 00:20:34,336
# Mama said...
357
00:20:34,612 --> 00:20:37,753
'And the night I felt Amy's
care and support towards me the
most
358
00:20:37,857 --> 00:20:41,309
was when she decided to use the
biggest show on British
television
359
00:20:41,378 --> 00:20:42,517
to launch my career.'
360
00:20:42,586 --> 00:20:45,209
# There'll be days like this
My mama said
361
00:20:45,313 --> 00:20:46,900
# Mama said, mama said #
362
00:20:46,969 --> 00:20:49,109
Her support felt amazing.
363
00:20:49,178 --> 00:20:53,286
I respected her as a person,
but also musically I respected
her.
364
00:20:53,355 --> 00:20:56,841
And having that person
that I idolised, musically,
365
00:20:56,945 --> 00:21:00,638
guiding me, that's the best
training you can get.
366
00:21:01,984 --> 00:21:04,677
Just before we went to do
Strictly Come Dancing,
367
00:21:04,746 --> 00:21:07,058
so, like, literally side of
stage,
368
00:21:07,127 --> 00:21:09,682
and she was sorting out
the ruffles on my dress
369
00:21:09,751 --> 00:21:12,374
to make sure I looked smart.
370
00:21:12,443 --> 00:21:15,584
And she was just like, "Ignore
the noise, I'm right there."
371
00:21:15,653 --> 00:21:19,381
"The band are there, they're my
band, they're gonna smash it
with you."
372
00:21:19,485 --> 00:21:22,660
She was just trying to make me
get, you know, ready,
373
00:21:22,764 --> 00:21:26,664
and take away the kind of...
the vibe that was around,
374
00:21:26,768 --> 00:21:30,772
which obviously was, "Oh, she's
about to do live TV, she's only
13."
375
00:21:30,841 --> 00:21:33,913
"This either could go really
well or really, like, bad."
376
00:21:34,016 --> 00:21:38,607
This is, like, the start of
what was to come for me
musically.
377
00:21:41,092 --> 00:21:44,544
[cheering, applause]
378
00:21:44,648 --> 00:21:48,548
My most memorable moment with
Amy, and it's really funny
379
00:21:48,617 --> 00:21:51,689
cos I think most people are
gonna expect me to say, like,
380
00:21:51,758 --> 00:21:54,071
"Oh, yeah,
when we went on holiday here
381
00:21:54,140 --> 00:21:56,315
and we went to some glitzy
thing,"
382
00:21:56,384 --> 00:22:01,492
actually just, like, having a
walk round London, just the two
of us.
383
00:22:01,596 --> 00:22:05,496
Because that was so unrealistic
at a certain point,
384
00:22:05,565 --> 00:22:09,466
because you just couldn't walk
down the road without her
getting noticed
385
00:22:09,535 --> 00:22:12,469
or someone hassling her,
but if you did get that moment,
386
00:22:12,538 --> 00:22:15,299
it was special because
you could just walk and talk.
387
00:22:15,368 --> 00:22:17,750
That was my...
my most special moment,
388
00:22:17,819 --> 00:22:22,513
just us two walking and talking
in, like, the night time of
London.
389
00:22:33,731 --> 00:22:37,666
So much of my life was based
in and around Camden.
390
00:22:37,770 --> 00:22:40,255
There was a purpose for me
being here
391
00:22:40,324 --> 00:22:43,431
but, you know, in the last ten
years, a lot's changed,
392
00:22:43,500 --> 00:22:47,504
so there's no real reason to...
to come here anymore.
393
00:22:48,953 --> 00:22:52,025
# For you, I was a flame
394
00:22:53,648 --> 00:22:57,928
# Love is a losing game
395
00:22:59,308 --> 00:23:04,037
# Five-storey fire as you came
396
00:23:05,660 --> 00:23:08,456
# Love is a losing game...
397
00:23:08,525 --> 00:23:11,424
She called herself the Queen of
Camden, she loved it.
398
00:23:11,493 --> 00:23:16,912
Camden really rubbed off on her
and it left its stamp on her,
399
00:23:16,981 --> 00:23:19,915
and she left her stamp on
Camden.
400
00:23:20,882 --> 00:23:24,575
So, to have her placed around
Camden only kinda feels right.
401
00:23:26,681 --> 00:23:30,305
# And now the final frame
402
00:23:31,340 --> 00:23:35,414
# Love is a losing game #
403
00:23:35,517 --> 00:23:37,381
'But there is one place in
Camden
404
00:23:37,450 --> 00:23:40,557
that holds the rawest memories
for me.'
405
00:23:40,626 --> 00:23:45,044
I guess this place for me is...
well, really, like, poignant
406
00:23:45,113 --> 00:23:48,150
because this is obviously
the last time I saw Amy,
407
00:23:48,254 --> 00:23:51,602
and this is actually, like,
the first time
408
00:23:51,671 --> 00:23:55,088
I've stood outside it
and looked at it.
409
00:23:55,157 --> 00:24:00,128
Probably...probably since I
performed here.
410
00:24:02,337 --> 00:24:04,960
'That night,
Amy came up on stage with me.'
411
00:24:05,029 --> 00:24:06,928
'It was incredible.'
412
00:24:06,997 --> 00:24:09,655
'But three days later, she
died.'
413
00:24:09,724 --> 00:24:14,073
'This journey is helping me
deal with things I have buried
really deep.'
414
00:24:14,176 --> 00:24:17,179
'But I don't feel ready
to go back in here yet.'
415
00:24:24,014 --> 00:24:24,221
.
416
00:24:24,324 --> 00:24:24,463
.
417
00:24:30,641 --> 00:24:33,782
'On the 23rd of July, 2011,
418
00:24:33,886 --> 00:24:38,373
I lost my godmother, Amy
Winehouse, and the world lost
an icon.'
419
00:24:38,442 --> 00:24:41,928
[newsreader] 'Later, the
singer's goddaughter visited
her home
420
00:24:41,997 --> 00:24:44,655
where a shrine has been
building since Saturday.'
421
00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:47,900
'Dionne Bromfield was the last
person to perform with Amy,
422
00:24:48,003 --> 00:24:49,660
just days before her death.'
423
00:24:49,764 --> 00:24:53,008
'And so, despite a life
played out in the public arena,
424
00:24:53,077 --> 00:24:57,703
it was a very private one that
said goodbye to Amy
Winehouse.'
425
00:24:57,772 --> 00:25:01,258
Obviously, it's always hard
when you lose someone close to
you,
426
00:25:01,361 --> 00:25:04,399
but when you lose someone
and it's, like, worldwide news,
427
00:25:04,503 --> 00:25:07,402
then that must be even more
difficult. No, definitely.
428
00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:10,716
And I was actually in Wales at
the time supporting The Wanted.
429
00:25:10,785 --> 00:25:13,822
Obviously I was in the dressing
room, but my mum and Jevan,
430
00:25:13,926 --> 00:25:15,962
who was Amy's PA, didn't,
erm...
431
00:25:16,031 --> 00:25:18,827
They found out about an hour or
so before I found out,
432
00:25:18,896 --> 00:25:20,553
but they didn't wanna tell me.
433
00:25:23,004 --> 00:25:25,144
I was in Wales performing.
434
00:25:25,247 --> 00:25:27,940
It was, like,
in the middle of this field,
435
00:25:28,043 --> 00:25:30,356
cos I was getting ready for a
gig,
436
00:25:30,459 --> 00:25:32,634
and I knew something had
changed
437
00:25:32,703 --> 00:25:36,189
because everyone's atmosphere
changed.
438
00:25:36,293 --> 00:25:40,849
Everyone just kind of, like,
started becoming extremely
quiet.
439
00:25:40,918 --> 00:25:43,472
And everyone was usually, like,
quite pumped
440
00:25:43,542 --> 00:25:45,371
to go and do the show or
whatever.
441
00:25:45,474 --> 00:25:49,582
And I got the news
that she'd passed...
442
00:25:49,651 --> 00:25:51,998
and it didn't really make
sense.
443
00:25:52,067 --> 00:25:55,036
Maybe I didn't wanna believe
it, maybe I was just like,
444
00:25:55,105 --> 00:25:58,833
"Can't be true. Saw her three
days ago, what you talking
about? No."
445
00:26:00,041 --> 00:26:03,285
'Someone that could help me
make sense of that exact time
446
00:26:03,354 --> 00:26:06,495
was Amy's personal assistant
and good friend, Jevan.'
447
00:26:06,565 --> 00:26:10,327
' When I started touring, Amy
asked him specifically to look
after me.'
448
00:26:10,396 --> 00:26:13,019
It's been ten years
since Amy's passing.
449
00:26:13,123 --> 00:26:15,159
Me and you
were around each other a lot.
450
00:26:15,228 --> 00:26:18,266
We experienced a lot together,
so you're probably one of
451
00:26:18,369 --> 00:26:21,890
a certain amount of people who
can really give a good insight
to it.
452
00:26:21,994 --> 00:26:25,549
Yeah, I remember get...
looking at my phone,
453
00:26:25,618 --> 00:26:29,139
and my first thought was
protect you.
454
00:26:29,242 --> 00:26:31,279
I didn't want you to have any
idea,
455
00:26:31,348 --> 00:26:34,006
especially because
you were about to go on stage,
456
00:26:34,075 --> 00:26:36,560
and it was just you and I
in the room at this point
457
00:26:36,664 --> 00:26:39,632
and I was, like, adamant
that I wouldn't look at you.
458
00:26:39,701 --> 00:26:44,050
It's weird because you didn't
have to say anything, I just
felt something.
459
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,501
It's like almost the room went
cold.
460
00:26:46,570 --> 00:26:49,159
Yeah. And I just remember,
erm...
461
00:26:49,228 --> 00:26:52,990
It wasn't like... I was fine,
like, I could've kept the
facade up
462
00:26:53,094 --> 00:26:55,165
for as long as it needed
to be kept up,
463
00:26:55,234 --> 00:26:58,064
but then I remember feeling
your hand on my shoulder.
464
00:26:58,168 --> 00:27:01,378
It's when you touched me
that I just felt this, like,
465
00:27:01,481 --> 00:27:05,520
overwhelming sense of, like,
guilt, because I just felt
like
466
00:27:05,589 --> 00:27:09,075
I'm trying to hide this, like,
massive thing from you,
467
00:27:09,144 --> 00:27:11,802
and I couldn't help but cry.
468
00:27:11,906 --> 00:27:16,531
And then you were like, "It's
Amy, isn't it?" Or whatever.
469
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,775
I was just like,
"I have to tell you."
470
00:27:18,844 --> 00:27:22,261
Then the tour manager came in,
he was like, "D'you wanna
leave?"
471
00:27:22,364 --> 00:27:26,230
I think we all kind of...
almost reverted to being
children
472
00:27:26,334 --> 00:27:27,853
and you took the adult role
473
00:27:27,956 --> 00:27:30,821
cos you were like,
"Everybody just chill."
474
00:27:30,890 --> 00:27:35,930
"No, we're gonna, you know,
fulfil this commitment'.Mm.
475
00:27:36,033 --> 00:27:39,658
And then, unfortunately,
because someone had an iPad
there
476
00:27:39,727 --> 00:27:43,040
and one of the boys had been
looking at the Daily Mail
website
477
00:27:43,109 --> 00:27:46,319
and they had, like... were
pulling out her body from the
house
478
00:27:46,423 --> 00:27:48,114
and it was, like, the front
page,
479
00:27:48,183 --> 00:27:51,324
and I remember seeing that and
it was just a bit like, "What?'
480
00:27:51,393 --> 00:27:55,604
So it was like almost I was
still waiting for someone to
say, like...
481
00:27:55,708 --> 00:27:58,124
Oh, yeah. "You've just been
punked." Like...
482
00:27:58,193 --> 00:28:02,715
A sick punk it would've been,
but, like, I was expecting
that.
483
00:28:02,819 --> 00:28:05,649
And, like, even going on stage,
I remember, like,
484
00:28:05,718 --> 00:28:08,238
I just couldn't do
any of the, like, routines.
485
00:28:08,307 --> 00:28:09,757
My body was just like...
486
00:28:09,860 --> 00:28:13,519
My mouth was singing and I
kinda was looking at people
487
00:28:13,588 --> 00:28:16,487
and I remember people in the
audience kind of...
488
00:28:16,556 --> 00:28:18,455
They were just becoming aware
of it
489
00:28:18,524 --> 00:28:21,803
and people were looking at
their phones and then kind of
like,
490
00:28:21,907 --> 00:28:23,218
"Oh, my God..."
491
00:28:23,322 --> 00:28:25,980
And then looking at me
and it was just like...
492
00:28:26,083 --> 00:28:27,360
You're just existing.
493
00:28:29,052 --> 00:28:33,401
I always wish I was slightly
older when Amy was alive,
494
00:28:33,470 --> 00:28:37,094
because I feel like the
conversations we potentially
could've had
495
00:28:37,198 --> 00:28:40,028
could've been a little bit more
deeper, erm...
496
00:28:41,098 --> 00:28:44,481
...in regards to addiction
and stuff like that.
497
00:28:45,447 --> 00:28:47,726
I was aware she was struggling
with things,
498
00:28:47,829 --> 00:28:50,729
but I don't think she probably
wanted to have heard it
499
00:28:50,832 --> 00:28:53,421
from a younger person,
much younger as well.
500
00:28:53,490 --> 00:28:56,873
Because I know that's a side of
her that she didn't want me to
see.
501
00:28:56,942 --> 00:28:58,909
That's like with you, I'd
never...
502
00:28:58,978 --> 00:29:02,016
Amy never used in front of me,
I never witnessed that.
503
00:29:02,085 --> 00:29:03,811
Yeah, as mad as it sounds,
504
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,677
she's probably a lot more
responsible than the public
image
505
00:29:08,747 --> 00:29:11,197
that was painted of her gave
off, you know?
506
00:29:11,266 --> 00:29:14,407
I know a lot of people
within the industry, sadly,
507
00:29:14,476 --> 00:29:16,755
who are suffering with
addiction.
508
00:29:16,858 --> 00:29:19,274
However,
they've been able to kind of
509
00:29:19,343 --> 00:29:21,449
fight their demons in private
almost
510
00:29:21,518 --> 00:29:27,489
because there was no limelight
shining on that particular
person.
511
00:29:27,558 --> 00:29:31,700
But in our case, it was
everywhere. Yeah.
512
00:29:31,770 --> 00:29:34,738
Like, you couldn't turn
without seeing something.
513
00:29:36,015 --> 00:29:41,262
I do wish either of us
potentially had a conversation
earlier,
514
00:29:41,365 --> 00:29:44,230
even if it was two years
after she passed...
515
00:29:45,404 --> 00:29:48,407
...but it probably wasn't
the right moment.Yeah.
516
00:29:51,099 --> 00:29:55,552
What was most surprising for me
was the fact that he was
feeling
517
00:29:55,655 --> 00:29:59,107
the same sort of things
that I was feeling.
518
00:29:59,211 --> 00:30:00,660
And that's why it's like,
519
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:04,457
I wish we both had come and
spoken to each other a little
bit more sooner
520
00:30:04,526 --> 00:30:07,322
because we both were feeling
the exact same things
521
00:30:07,391 --> 00:30:09,428
but we both just wouldn't
mention it,
522
00:30:09,531 --> 00:30:12,189
which is, like, wild really to
me because...
523
00:30:13,604 --> 00:30:16,815
...it would've took a lot of
pressure off of the pair of us.
524
00:30:18,609 --> 00:30:22,234
'Meeting Jevan has got me
thinking about the last time I
saw Amy
525
00:30:22,303 --> 00:30:24,788
and the experience
I shared with her.'
526
00:30:24,857 --> 00:30:27,549
This picture is actually
the last picture
527
00:30:27,618 --> 00:30:29,655
that I've got of myself and
Amy,
528
00:30:29,758 --> 00:30:33,038
and this was three days
before she passed.
529
00:30:33,107 --> 00:30:35,419
This is backstage
in my dressing room.
530
00:30:35,488 --> 00:30:38,802
Little did I know that this
would be the last actual
picture
531
00:30:38,871 --> 00:30:41,391
that I would have of myself and
her.
532
00:30:42,323 --> 00:30:45,119
Or that this would be
the last time I saw her.
533
00:30:45,188 --> 00:30:46,914
Amy loved life too much.
534
00:30:46,983 --> 00:30:50,952
She wasn't somebody that was,
like, gonna give it up that
easily.
535
00:30:51,021 --> 00:30:53,748
This is not somebody who...
536
00:30:53,817 --> 00:30:56,578
...got themselves off of drugs
three years prior
537
00:30:56,682 --> 00:30:58,684
and never touched it again.
538
00:30:59,719 --> 00:31:03,585
To me, that's not a woman
that doesn't wanna be alive.
539
00:31:06,209 --> 00:31:08,867
It's still really baffling,
540
00:31:08,936 --> 00:31:12,836
because to me, this was, like,
the healthiest I'd ever seen
her
541
00:31:12,905 --> 00:31:14,734
and she was, like, beaming.
542
00:31:14,803 --> 00:31:17,220
I can't explain it,
but all I can say is
543
00:31:17,323 --> 00:31:21,293
it's like she was shining so
bright
544
00:31:21,362 --> 00:31:23,778
that maybe it just had to
burst.
545
00:31:25,021 --> 00:31:30,716
And it was really hard for me
to comprehend
546
00:31:30,785 --> 00:31:33,615
that she was so well,
547
00:31:33,684 --> 00:31:39,207
but yet three days later,
something so tragic happened.
548
00:31:39,276 --> 00:31:44,695
It was really hard to...
to register that.
549
00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:53,773
'Now at 25,
I realise Amy was shielding me
550
00:31:53,877 --> 00:31:56,500
from a lot of the things
she was struggling with.'
551
00:31:58,157 --> 00:32:02,299
'I wanna hear from other young
people who have lost someone to
addiction
552
00:32:02,403 --> 00:32:03,645
and learn from them.'
553
00:32:03,991 --> 00:32:08,064
'We are all meeting for the
first time, but share similar
experiences.'
554
00:32:08,167 --> 00:32:09,444
Hi, guys.
555
00:32:09,513 --> 00:32:10,790
Hi.Hello.
How are you?
556
00:32:10,963 --> 00:32:15,554
I've been really going on a
journey addressing Amy, my
godmother.
557
00:32:15,657 --> 00:32:20,145
It's been ten years since she's
passed and I'd say in the last
year,
558
00:32:20,248 --> 00:32:25,115
I've only really started to
accept and acknowledge
559
00:32:25,184 --> 00:32:27,117
the fact she's not here.
560
00:32:27,186 --> 00:32:30,638
And also, like, all the
emotions that I'd kind of
bottled up
561
00:32:30,741 --> 00:32:33,641
and just thrown them, you
know, to the back of my head,
562
00:32:33,744 --> 00:32:36,885
I've started to really
bring them to light.
563
00:32:36,989 --> 00:32:40,027
So it'll be really interesting
to see how you guys
564
00:32:40,130 --> 00:32:42,408
coped with grief or addiction.
565
00:32:42,477 --> 00:32:44,169
I think I was about 12
566
00:32:44,238 --> 00:32:47,172
when I realised that my dad
had a drinking problem.
567
00:32:47,241 --> 00:32:49,070
So I was aware of it.
568
00:32:49,139 --> 00:32:53,419
But it's always kind of, you
know, pushed under the carpet,
no one...
569
00:32:53,488 --> 00:32:56,698
...no one likes
to discuss addiction.No.
570
00:32:56,767 --> 00:32:59,770
When you're young, people
don't talk to you about it,
571
00:32:59,874 --> 00:33:01,772
in some way trying to protect
you,
572
00:33:01,841 --> 00:33:04,741
but you see it, like, you know,
573
00:33:04,810 --> 00:33:07,433
and in some way it makes it
even harder to place it
574
00:33:07,537 --> 00:33:11,437
because you're seeing this
thing but you have no context
to understand,
575
00:33:11,506 --> 00:33:14,268
"Is this person an addict?
Do they need to stop?"
576
00:33:14,371 --> 00:33:17,478
"Do I need to be begging them
and screaming at them to stop?"
577
00:33:17,547 --> 00:33:22,172
[sighs] It's... it's hard
because...
578
00:33:22,276 --> 00:33:27,591
...I never really saw her...
drunk, if I'm being completely
honest.
579
00:33:27,695 --> 00:33:29,593
I never actually did see her
drunk.
580
00:33:29,697 --> 00:33:34,495
But then I could pick up a
newspaper and see something,
581
00:33:34,564 --> 00:33:37,256
and to me it was almost like
two different worlds.
582
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:43,159
It took her death for me to
realise that the drink was
really that bad.
583
00:33:43,228 --> 00:33:47,715
I don't want to talk about her
and call her an alcoholic...
584
00:33:48,957 --> 00:33:50,476
...but...
585
00:33:50,580 --> 00:33:52,858
...she was. D'you know what I
mean?
586
00:33:52,961 --> 00:33:54,860
She was more than that,
587
00:33:54,929 --> 00:33:59,485
but at the same time I have to
accept that it was also what it
was.
588
00:33:59,554 --> 00:34:01,694
But it shouldn't be
a shameful label.
589
00:34:01,763 --> 00:34:03,834
You know, just like disability.
Yeah.
590
00:34:03,938 --> 00:34:06,975
That is a part of you, yeah,
but it's not who you are.
591
00:34:07,045 --> 00:34:09,116
You know, there's so much more.
592
00:34:09,185 --> 00:34:11,566
But it's like embracing
that side of her
593
00:34:11,635 --> 00:34:15,329
because at the end of the day,
she is a whole person.
594
00:34:16,399 --> 00:34:21,887
I never really admitted that I
felt a bit embarrassed
sometimes,
595
00:34:21,956 --> 00:34:24,752
because there's such a stigma
around addiction.
596
00:34:24,855 --> 00:34:30,516
So, hearing some of those guys
mention that they've also, you
know,
597
00:34:30,585 --> 00:34:32,967
parents or loved ones
were addicted too,
598
00:34:33,071 --> 00:34:37,075
it goes to show,
"Oh, like, I'm not..."
599
00:34:37,144 --> 00:34:39,974
"I'm not the only one.
You guys felt this too."
600
00:34:40,078 --> 00:34:42,839
And also they shared
similar kinda feelings.
601
00:34:42,942 --> 00:34:47,775
I wish I'd done this earlier,
but my one thing that I've
taken from this,
602
00:34:47,844 --> 00:34:51,296
it's never too late
to actually talk to people.
603
00:34:56,094 --> 00:34:56,301
.
604
00:34:56,404 --> 00:34:56,542
.
605
00:35:04,343 --> 00:35:09,900
[man]Ladies and gentlemen,
Miss Amy Winehouse!
606
00:35:09,969 --> 00:35:11,523
[music playing, cheering]
607
00:35:11,592 --> 00:35:13,904
# You tried to make me go to
rehab
608
00:35:13,973 --> 00:35:17,253
# I said no, no, no
609
00:35:17,356 --> 00:35:20,394
# Yes, I've been black
But when I come back
610
00:35:20,463 --> 00:35:23,569
# You'll know, know, know
611
00:35:23,638 --> 00:35:26,262
# I ain't got the time
612
00:35:26,365 --> 00:35:28,402
# But if my daddy thinks
I'm fine... #
613
00:35:28,471 --> 00:35:31,267
'The last few weeks
have been a roller coaster.'
614
00:35:31,336 --> 00:35:34,546
'I am revisiting my past with
Amy through adults eyes now,
615
00:35:34,649 --> 00:35:36,858
but I need to make sense of it
all
616
00:35:36,927 --> 00:35:39,516
and I still have
unanswered questions.'
617
00:35:39,585 --> 00:35:42,726
'I think meeting an expert
will give me some perspective
618
00:35:42,795 --> 00:35:46,144
and maybe even help me with
some of the challenges I have.'
619
00:35:48,007 --> 00:35:51,735
I'm going to see a grief
specialist, Andy.
620
00:35:51,804 --> 00:35:53,806
This for me, this is the first
time
621
00:35:53,910 --> 00:35:58,225
I've ever really spoken to
anyone one-on-one in ten years
622
00:35:58,328 --> 00:35:59,812
about how I felt.
623
00:35:59,881 --> 00:36:03,540
I'm a little bit nervous, I'm
not gonna lie. But right now,
624
00:36:03,644 --> 00:36:07,095
I feel like this is actually
one of the most important
things to do.
625
00:36:16,208 --> 00:36:18,693
D'you wanna take a seat,
Dionne? Yeah.
626
00:36:18,762 --> 00:36:21,420
[sighs]
Super.
627
00:36:21,524 --> 00:36:25,183
I mean, if I'm being really
honest, I've found it really,
really hard
628
00:36:25,252 --> 00:36:28,841
to kind of address certain
feelings, situations,
629
00:36:28,910 --> 00:36:32,845
or understand why I feel
certain ways.
630
00:36:32,914 --> 00:36:35,917
But my coping mechanism was
kind of,
631
00:36:36,021 --> 00:36:38,541
I have to show everyone
that I'm being strong,
632
00:36:38,644 --> 00:36:41,716
and why would I be upset?
Like, it is what it is.
633
00:36:41,820 --> 00:36:44,581
That's how I...
I kind of dealt with things.
634
00:36:44,685 --> 00:36:48,723
So on one hand, you're sort of
denied the possibility of
grieving
635
00:36:48,792 --> 00:36:50,898
how you've wanted to grieve.
Yeah.
636
00:36:50,967 --> 00:36:52,865
Like, almost not had
permission,
637
00:36:52,934 --> 00:36:57,180
and also at the same time,
there's pressures on you to be
strong
638
00:36:57,284 --> 00:36:59,734
and to be a particular way.
Yeah.
639
00:36:59,803 --> 00:37:04,222
For months, I would not cry. I
didn't cry for a long, long
time
640
00:37:04,291 --> 00:37:06,741
cos I just didn't feel like
it needed to come,
641
00:37:06,845 --> 00:37:09,986
and then I remember, like,
three, four months down the
line
642
00:37:10,089 --> 00:37:14,128
that I just burst into tears
because it just all got to me
643
00:37:14,197 --> 00:37:17,200
and it was... the trigger that
got me was I saw something
644
00:37:17,304 --> 00:37:19,582
and I was like,
"Amy would find that funny."
645
00:37:19,685 --> 00:37:23,068
And I remember, I went to go
and, like, call her,
646
00:37:23,137 --> 00:37:26,002
and it was, "I can't do that."
647
00:37:26,105 --> 00:37:28,556
And from then,
648
00:37:28,625 --> 00:37:32,595
I couldn't listen
to any of her music for years.
649
00:37:32,664 --> 00:37:36,564
I didn't like seeing stuff
online that was written about
her still.
650
00:37:36,633 --> 00:37:37,772
Videos.
651
00:37:38,083 --> 00:37:42,881
And it was all from that moment
of me wanting to pick up the
phone
652
00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:46,298
to call her about something
and realising I actually can't.
653
00:37:46,367 --> 00:37:49,439
I mean, a lot of people say,
"How can I get over this?"
654
00:37:49,508 --> 00:37:52,270
"How can I no longer
feel like this?"Mm.
655
00:37:52,339 --> 00:37:56,101
And actually, it's not so much
about getting over
656
00:37:56,170 --> 00:37:59,000
or closing a relationship
or stopping that.
657
00:37:59,104 --> 00:38:01,865
It's actually about
how do we stay connected
658
00:38:01,969 --> 00:38:04,385
with the memories
of the person who's died.
659
00:38:08,286 --> 00:38:10,184
'I'm glad I met Andy.'
660
00:38:10,253 --> 00:38:12,704
'He's helped me
put things into perspective
661
00:38:12,807 --> 00:38:16,121
and reminded me that it's not
about closing this chapter,
662
00:38:16,190 --> 00:38:18,917
but embracing everything
Amy left me with.'
663
00:38:20,367 --> 00:38:25,889
And I guess this is probably,
like, one of my most prized
possessions
664
00:38:25,958 --> 00:38:30,342
that Amy had given me, and it
was a pinkie ring that was
hers,
665
00:38:30,411 --> 00:38:33,380
with a gold chain.
666
00:38:33,483 --> 00:38:36,175
And I will really, like,
only wear this
667
00:38:36,244 --> 00:38:39,144
when I'm doing things
that are, like, special.
668
00:38:39,213 --> 00:38:41,353
I don't really wear it
every single day.
669
00:38:41,422 --> 00:38:44,460
I feel like this is almost like
a bit of a, like, a blanket.
670
00:38:44,563 --> 00:38:47,221
It instantly reminds me of her.
671
00:38:49,223 --> 00:38:55,125
This guitar she wrote a bit of
Frank on, and she gifted this
to me, so...
672
00:38:55,229 --> 00:38:58,128
This is a baby blue Fender
Strat,
673
00:38:58,232 --> 00:39:00,648
and it's the original strings,
everything.
674
00:39:00,717 --> 00:39:03,720
You can even see the
discolouration where it's so
old.
675
00:39:03,789 --> 00:39:07,379
It means a lot
that she gave this to me.
676
00:39:07,448 --> 00:39:10,417
She probably would be, like,
cussing me right now,
677
00:39:10,486 --> 00:39:13,385
at the fact that I have not
learnt properly how to play.
678
00:39:13,454 --> 00:39:16,492
This is a dress here that she
wore
679
00:39:16,595 --> 00:39:19,357
for a gig that she done
at Somerset House,
680
00:39:19,460 --> 00:39:23,844
and then I was shooting a music
video and I just didn't like
anything,
681
00:39:23,913 --> 00:39:26,191
and I said it to her
and she was like, "Here."
682
00:39:26,294 --> 00:39:29,470
And then she pulled it out of
her wardrobe, like, "Take
this."
683
00:39:29,539 --> 00:39:31,921
If you love someone,
you know their smell.
684
00:39:31,990 --> 00:39:34,958
Amy used to wear this raunchy
perfume that if I smell it,
685
00:39:35,062 --> 00:39:36,995
I'm like, "That reminds me of
Amy."
686
00:39:37,098 --> 00:39:39,687
And it's kind of this, I...
Just by feeling it,
687
00:39:39,756 --> 00:39:42,587
you kind of feel like
you're feeling her a bit.
688
00:39:42,656 --> 00:39:46,936
It's like this piece of fabric
holds so many memories.
689
00:39:54,288 --> 00:39:57,256
'Dealing with Amy's loss
was never going to be easy,
690
00:39:57,325 --> 00:39:59,604
and opening up
to all the people I have met
691
00:39:59,673 --> 00:40:02,089
has given me
a final shot of confidence
692
00:40:02,158 --> 00:40:05,230
to face returning to the
Roundhouse.'
693
00:40:05,299 --> 00:40:08,336
'The last place I saw Amy
alive.'
694
00:40:09,476 --> 00:40:12,893
'And now, it's time for me to
go back inside.'
695
00:40:16,310 --> 00:40:18,830
So, when I was last here,
696
00:40:18,933 --> 00:40:22,247
which was the 23rd of July
which was Roundhouse,
697
00:40:22,350 --> 00:40:25,423
I remember this so well
actually because there was,
like,
698
00:40:25,526 --> 00:40:28,046
some Portakabins there
which were like...
699
00:40:28,149 --> 00:40:29,910
We had our backstage dressing
room
700
00:40:30,013 --> 00:40:32,568
but we had also a dressing room
out here as well,
701
00:40:32,637 --> 00:40:36,054
and this is where me and Amy,
we chatted for ages
702
00:40:36,123 --> 00:40:39,644
and, you know, it was really,
really nice, we just had loads
of fun.
703
00:40:39,713 --> 00:40:43,164
It was actually the last place
that I actually ended up seeing
her.
704
00:40:43,268 --> 00:40:48,480
It feels strange because I
haven't... I haven't set foot
back in here.
705
00:41:01,528 --> 00:41:05,428
It's mixed emotions. Right now
I feel really happy and I...
706
00:41:05,497 --> 00:41:08,500
It brings back such good
memories.
707
00:41:08,604 --> 00:41:10,433
But it's also...
708
00:41:12,677 --> 00:41:17,475
...a little bit tarnished by
obviously what then happened.
709
00:41:19,684 --> 00:41:23,550
Erm, and also a little bit
confusing because the night was
so amazing,
710
00:41:23,619 --> 00:41:27,519
it's just like, how...
how did we go from, you know,
711
00:41:27,588 --> 00:41:29,797
three days earlier before she
passed,
712
00:41:29,866 --> 00:41:33,283
this amazing night where she
was beaming, everything was
good,
713
00:41:33,387 --> 00:41:35,872
she was on stage dancing,
happy, you know.
714
00:41:35,976 --> 00:41:37,702
A proper, like...
715
00:41:39,048 --> 00:41:41,809
...bright moment in life
really.
716
00:41:43,846 --> 00:41:46,918
She just, like, ran up and
hugged me and was just like...
717
00:41:47,021 --> 00:41:50,542
Just really happy. She was
like, "I'm so happy, I'm so
proud'.
718
00:41:50,646 --> 00:41:52,337
And I remember she said to me,
719
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,340
"Who would've thought
you'd be singing in Camden
720
00:41:55,443 --> 00:41:58,377
with me in the Roundhouse?
Crazy, right?"
721
00:41:59,482 --> 00:42:01,277
She did have a vision for me.
722
00:42:01,380 --> 00:42:04,245
I think I definitely knew
what I wanted to do, but she...
723
00:42:04,349 --> 00:42:06,247
...she wanted bigger things.
724
00:42:06,316 --> 00:42:08,940
And that's why I'm so
appreciative and I'm so glad
725
00:42:09,043 --> 00:42:11,598
that I actually, this night,
said to her, like,
726
00:42:11,667 --> 00:42:15,084
"Thank you so much for
everything." And I'm so glad I
said it.
727
00:42:15,187 --> 00:42:18,812
Because I probably would,
like... that would haunt me to
this day
728
00:42:18,881 --> 00:42:21,262
if I never was able to say,
like, thank you.
729
00:42:30,962 --> 00:42:34,586
I came into this not really
knowing where this journey
would take me.
730
00:42:34,690 --> 00:42:37,313
I knew I had to go back
to go forward.
731
00:42:38,625 --> 00:42:40,627
Ultimately,
732
00:42:40,696 --> 00:42:45,252
Amy was a person that wanted to
make sure I was good.
733
00:42:46,391 --> 00:42:49,946
And to be completely honest,
I wasn't good
734
00:42:50,050 --> 00:42:55,227
because I hadn't addressed
certain things that needed to
be addressed.
735
00:42:55,296 --> 00:42:58,886
And by not letting Amy rest
by talking about her still.
736
00:42:58,955 --> 00:43:01,475
That was a big, big worry for
me.
737
00:43:01,544 --> 00:43:05,168
I felt very held back
because of her passing
738
00:43:05,237 --> 00:43:10,001
and I felt like I wasn't really
able to say how I really felt.
739
00:43:10,070 --> 00:43:14,005
I feel more content
speaking about her,
740
00:43:14,074 --> 00:43:17,871
and actually now, when I do
think of her and when I have
spoken about her,
741
00:43:17,974 --> 00:43:20,252
I think of positive things.
742
00:43:20,321 --> 00:43:25,119
Her legacy is so much more
than just her music.
743
00:43:25,223 --> 00:43:28,640
Her image. Her wittiness.
744
00:43:29,848 --> 00:43:31,988
Her rudeness. [laughs]
745
00:43:32,092 --> 00:43:35,716
I think it's... it's a package
thing.
746
00:43:35,785 --> 00:43:39,547
And I think if you were able
to have experienced it...
747
00:43:41,342 --> 00:43:44,483
...then you're lucky.
You're very, very lucky.
748
00:43:44,587 --> 00:43:48,142
And I also think no one
will ever be able to touch it.
749
00:43:48,211 --> 00:43:52,388
There'll only be one Amy.
I know that for sure.
750
00:44:45,924 --> 00:44:46,131
.
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