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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,144 --> 00:00:06,316 . 2 00:00:08,215 --> 00:00:13,323 'My name is Dionne Bromfield, and Amy Winehouse was my godmother.' 3 00:00:13,427 --> 00:00:16,878 'We had a special bond and our relationship was unique.' 4 00:00:16,947 --> 00:00:21,159 'Amy's support inspired me to follow my dream of becoming a singer.' 5 00:00:21,262 --> 00:00:23,747 'And she signed me to her label, Lioness, 6 00:00:23,851 --> 00:00:25,715 when I was just 13 years old.' 7 00:00:27,682 --> 00:00:31,376 'I performed all over the world in front of thousands of people, 8 00:00:31,479 --> 00:00:34,586 all thanks to my godmother's love and encouragement.' 9 00:00:34,689 --> 00:00:37,520 'But one day, everything changed.' 10 00:00:37,589 --> 00:00:41,903 The singer, Amy Winehouse, has been found dead in her north London flat, 11 00:00:41,972 --> 00:00:45,666 just 27 years old. The singer has... 12 00:00:45,769 --> 00:00:48,772 'I remember the moment I was told that Amy died.' 13 00:00:48,841 --> 00:00:51,016 'I was just about to walk on stage.' 14 00:00:51,085 --> 00:00:53,467 'My world crumbled, and I shut down.' 15 00:00:53,536 --> 00:00:56,953 Obviously, it's always hard when you lose someone close to you, 16 00:00:57,057 --> 00:01:00,301 but when you lose someone and it's like, it's worldwide news, 17 00:01:00,370 --> 00:01:04,374 then that must be, like, even more difficult. No, definitely. 18 00:01:04,478 --> 00:01:07,136 'Since Amy died, I've hardly spoken about her.' 19 00:01:09,690 --> 00:01:11,381 'Even to those closest to me.' 20 00:01:14,074 --> 00:01:15,834 'But now, ten years on, 21 00:01:15,903 --> 00:01:19,631 I feel like I need to confront my feelings and open up.' 22 00:01:19,700 --> 00:01:22,737 'I know it's going to be difficult and uncomfortable, 23 00:01:22,841 --> 00:01:25,913 but I hope I'll reconnect with the Amy I knew and loved, 24 00:01:26,016 --> 00:01:29,951 as well as deal with some of the grief I still feel at losing her.' 25 00:01:46,313 --> 00:01:52,146 Everyone sees Amy as Amy Winehouse, and I never see her as that. 26 00:01:52,215 --> 00:01:55,184 When I think of Amy, I think of Amy without the beehive, 27 00:01:55,253 --> 00:02:00,913 without the eyeliner, at home, prancing around, just being Amy. 28 00:02:01,949 --> 00:02:05,401 My godmother, it's just that, another piece of the family. 29 00:02:06,781 --> 00:02:09,612 'I first met Amy when I was six years old.' 30 00:02:09,715 --> 00:02:13,995 'She was good friends with my mum who was also in the music business.' 31 00:02:14,064 --> 00:02:17,137 'The more time I spent around Amy, the closer we became, 32 00:02:17,206 --> 00:02:20,657 and eventually she asked my mum if she could be my godmother.' 33 00:02:20,761 --> 00:02:23,764 She was definitely like another mother figure to me. 34 00:02:23,833 --> 00:02:27,008 You know, Amy never had kids and I know she wanted kids, 35 00:02:27,077 --> 00:02:29,528 that was, like, her purpose for life really, 36 00:02:29,632 --> 00:02:32,531 being like an amazing wife and an amazing mother. 37 00:02:32,635 --> 00:02:37,605 And I think with me, I kinda gave her that sense of motherhood. 38 00:02:37,674 --> 00:02:40,746 Even though she wasn't my mum or my sister, 39 00:02:40,850 --> 00:02:42,679 it was almost like... 40 00:02:43,749 --> 00:02:46,959 ...a sister and a mother kind of just compiled in to one, 41 00:02:47,063 --> 00:02:49,169 and that's why it was just so unique. 42 00:02:51,274 --> 00:02:54,035 'I'm close to the same age Amy was when she died.' 43 00:02:54,139 --> 00:02:58,005 'I now feel the time is right to unlock some of those memories.' 44 00:03:02,182 --> 00:03:04,977 Guess it's kinda like my little Amy memory box. 45 00:03:05,081 --> 00:03:09,258 It's got, like, pictures and some nice little stuff 46 00:03:09,327 --> 00:03:12,537 that she's given me that I really, really cherish. 47 00:03:14,090 --> 00:03:17,127 I've got, like, really naturally curly hair, right? 48 00:03:17,197 --> 00:03:20,648 And she was like, "Can I straighten your hair?" 49 00:03:20,752 --> 00:03:22,063 And I was like, "Yeah". 50 00:03:22,202 --> 00:03:25,757 And she whipped out the ironing board and the iron and she was like, 51 00:03:25,826 --> 00:03:29,381 "When I was younger, my nan used to put my hair on the ironing board 52 00:03:29,450 --> 00:03:31,211 and kinda iron my hair that way." 53 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,730 I was like, "Amy, you are not ironing my hair." 54 00:03:33,834 --> 00:03:35,836 She used to always, like, sit me down 55 00:03:35,905 --> 00:03:38,942 and kind of want to have me like a little dolly and do me up. 56 00:03:39,046 --> 00:03:41,290 And I quite liked it, it was nice, you know, 57 00:03:41,393 --> 00:03:43,292 being pampered all the time. 58 00:03:44,327 --> 00:03:48,918 This one is myself, Amy and Kelly. This was in Kelly's dressing room. 59 00:03:49,988 --> 00:03:54,026 She actually clipped on some of her extensions onto my hair, 60 00:03:54,130 --> 00:03:57,202 and she'd given me the wisped eyeliner, 61 00:03:57,306 --> 00:04:00,550 but yeah, we just went back to Amy's house after this. 62 00:04:00,619 --> 00:04:03,588 But we told her to take the pink wig off. 63 00:04:03,657 --> 00:04:06,004 But this was a fun night, it was a nice night. 64 00:04:06,073 --> 00:04:07,833 Really, really nice night. 65 00:04:08,903 --> 00:04:12,079 This picture was in St Lucia, 66 00:04:12,148 --> 00:04:15,082 so this is 2008, round about Christmas time, 67 00:04:15,151 --> 00:04:17,671 and she's got her little Jheri curl. 68 00:04:17,740 --> 00:04:19,638 This is like the Amy that was at home. 69 00:04:19,707 --> 00:04:21,916 Her hair would always be naturally curly. 70 00:04:21,985 --> 00:04:25,334 And St Lucia was a bit of the, like, rebirth for Amy 71 00:04:25,403 --> 00:04:29,407 because it was where she had gotten herself off of drugs, completely, 72 00:04:29,510 --> 00:04:32,306 which I think a lot of people fail to realise. 73 00:04:37,277 --> 00:04:40,901 'I want to revisit some of the places that me and Amy used to go to.' 74 00:04:41,867 --> 00:04:44,387 'I think this will help me reconnect with her.' 75 00:04:44,456 --> 00:04:47,079 'But I'm also nervous of what it may stir up for me.' 76 00:04:48,253 --> 00:04:52,257 Soho's been like a massive music influence on me, 77 00:04:52,326 --> 00:04:54,190 from such a young age actually. 78 00:04:54,294 --> 00:04:57,952 I've performed at Ronnie Scott's, which is literally the next road. 79 00:04:58,056 --> 00:05:00,783 Jazz After Dark which was a huge location for Amy. 80 00:05:00,886 --> 00:05:04,856 They have a really good house band and she'd jump up so many times 81 00:05:04,959 --> 00:05:08,308 and just have a little sing-song with them, which was nice. 82 00:05:10,862 --> 00:05:12,898 Oh I haven't been here in ages. 83 00:05:13,899 --> 00:05:17,075 The Specials, they were, like, such a huge influence on Amy. 84 00:05:17,144 --> 00:05:20,078 I remember her playing a lot of that ska music. 85 00:05:20,147 --> 00:05:24,669 I knew a lot about, like, reggae because, you know, I come from... 86 00:05:24,738 --> 00:05:27,223 I've got Jamaican in me so that was around, 87 00:05:27,327 --> 00:05:31,192 but ska, I wasn't that aware of, so Amy definitely introduced me to that. 88 00:05:31,296 --> 00:05:33,540 And she definitely, her style as well. 89 00:05:33,609 --> 00:05:37,923 You know, that kind of rude boy look, she definitely tried to emulate. 90 00:05:37,992 --> 00:05:40,270 The Ronettes. They were cool. 91 00:05:40,374 --> 00:05:43,826 You know, Amy as well, she got a lot of her hair influence from them. 92 00:05:45,828 --> 00:05:47,933 Yeah, she loved the Ronettes. 93 00:05:50,626 --> 00:05:53,353 I said to her, "Oh, have you heard this record?" 94 00:05:53,422 --> 00:05:55,665 And she was like, "Why d'you like that?" 95 00:05:55,734 --> 00:05:59,117 And then she was like, "Oh, then you're gonna like this stuff." 96 00:05:59,220 --> 00:06:01,637 She used to kinda give me, like, assignments. 97 00:06:01,740 --> 00:06:04,433 "Study this track and tell me what you think." 98 00:06:04,536 --> 00:06:06,262 And it was almost her being like, 99 00:06:06,366 --> 00:06:09,576 "If you wanna be the best, you've gotta learn from the best." 100 00:06:09,645 --> 00:06:12,820 And when I'm learning literally from the best, 101 00:06:12,889 --> 00:06:16,410 and she's telling me to learn from what she thinks is the best, 102 00:06:16,479 --> 00:06:19,482 I'm gonna bloody learn. Like, of course I'm gonna learn. 103 00:06:21,139 --> 00:06:25,074 She was giving me what maybe she didn't have. 104 00:06:25,143 --> 00:06:28,698 Someone's been through it already and they know how it goes, 105 00:06:28,767 --> 00:06:31,563 it's nice, you've kind of got that blanket, I guess. 106 00:06:31,667 --> 00:06:35,774 Someone that actually cares about you professionally and personally, 107 00:06:35,878 --> 00:06:37,673 and willing to help. 108 00:06:37,742 --> 00:06:40,400 And boy, she did help. She really did. 109 00:06:46,129 --> 00:06:48,580 'I spent evenings at Amy's house all the time, 110 00:06:48,649 --> 00:06:51,721 and she would always encourage me to sing with her.' 111 00:06:52,757 --> 00:06:55,794 'But one day, something amazing happened.' 112 00:06:58,797 --> 00:06:59,971 [man]Team up. 113 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,318 I was 12 at the time, I think. 114 00:07:02,387 --> 00:07:06,667 She knew I could sing and I think she was trying to get me out of my shell. 115 00:07:06,736 --> 00:07:09,636 She was like, "What's your favourite song right now?" 116 00:07:09,739 --> 00:07:12,224 If I Ain't Got You by Alicia was out at the time. 117 00:07:12,328 --> 00:07:15,469 And she was like, "OK, let's sing it, I'll play guitar." 118 00:07:15,573 --> 00:07:18,852 # Some people live for the fortune 119 00:07:20,992 --> 00:07:25,686 # Some people live Just for the fame... # 120 00:07:25,790 --> 00:07:28,827 After we'd done it, she was like, "Let's put it on YouTube", 121 00:07:28,896 --> 00:07:31,036 and I was like, "Er, OK, cool." 122 00:07:31,105 --> 00:07:34,902 And I remember going to sleep and waking up and then it was a thing. 123 00:07:34,971 --> 00:07:37,249 A couple of friends from school were like, 124 00:07:37,318 --> 00:07:39,873 "Oh, I saw that video of you singing on YouTube." 125 00:07:39,942 --> 00:07:42,289 I looked on YouTube and I was like, 126 00:07:42,358 --> 00:07:45,534 "Oh, there's a couple, like, 25,000 here." 127 00:07:45,603 --> 00:07:49,227 And then like the next day I was like, "Oh, like, a hundred thousand". 128 00:07:49,330 --> 00:07:50,642 And it became a thing. 129 00:07:50,746 --> 00:07:52,851 # Nothing at all 130 00:07:52,955 --> 00:07:55,613 # If it ain't you, baby... # 131 00:07:55,682 --> 00:07:58,236 And yeah, that was kinda like the start, I guess, 132 00:07:58,339 --> 00:08:03,448 of pushing kind of the musical mentor... route. 133 00:08:03,517 --> 00:08:06,693 [indistinct singing] 134 00:08:08,004 --> 00:08:11,698 Dionne, Dionne, Dionne, Dionne... Dionne, ladies and gentlemen! 135 00:08:11,767 --> 00:08:17,151 Sometimes somebody comes into your life and they are, like, 136 00:08:17,220 --> 00:08:19,222 there's a reason why they're there. 137 00:08:19,326 --> 00:08:21,535 And she's one of those people in my life. 138 00:08:24,262 --> 00:08:26,333 'My best friends, Rea and Emineh, 139 00:08:26,402 --> 00:08:28,646 have been with me through everything.' 140 00:08:30,613 --> 00:08:33,271 'But even with them, I've struggled to talk about 141 00:08:33,374 --> 00:08:35,273 how Amy's death affected me.' 142 00:08:36,239 --> 00:08:40,278 'This is the first time in ten years that I'll properly talk about it.' 143 00:08:42,522 --> 00:08:46,008 Are you excited, like, for this, to come out and to... Yeah. 144 00:08:46,077 --> 00:08:47,457 ...to be spoken about? 145 00:08:47,527 --> 00:08:49,459 I wanted to this, one, for myself. 146 00:08:49,529 --> 00:08:51,979 There's only so much you can hold inside, 147 00:08:52,083 --> 00:08:54,395 and I've wanted to keep silent 148 00:08:54,499 --> 00:08:56,812 because I wanted to, like, respect her 149 00:08:56,915 --> 00:09:00,332 and kind of let her kind of be at peace. 150 00:09:00,401 --> 00:09:04,682 But then I also feel like, there's a side to her that people should know. 151 00:09:04,751 --> 00:09:08,168 I remember you first telling me about Amy being your godmother. 152 00:09:08,271 --> 00:09:10,342 We were in a English class and I said, 153 00:09:10,446 --> 00:09:12,655 "Oh, yeah, my godmother's Amy Winehouse." 154 00:09:12,724 --> 00:09:15,278 She went, "And my godmother's Britney Spears." 155 00:09:15,347 --> 00:09:17,902 Oh, didn't believe her? I didn't really know. 156 00:09:17,971 --> 00:09:20,560 I thought, I'm not telling anyone that anymore. 157 00:09:20,629 --> 00:09:23,355 Yeah, I didn't believe her for a long time. 158 00:09:23,424 --> 00:09:25,254 So when did you then believe me? 159 00:09:25,357 --> 00:09:27,187 When Amy came to the school. Right. 160 00:09:27,256 --> 00:09:28,878 It was chaos. 161 00:09:28,982 --> 00:09:32,468 It was absolute chaos, and the, like, paps were all around 162 00:09:32,572 --> 00:09:35,022 and we could not, like, back out of the school. 163 00:09:36,299 --> 00:09:39,061 I haven't been able to grieve her loss, I don't think. 164 00:09:39,164 --> 00:09:42,202 I hadn't really experienced loss like that ever in my life. 165 00:09:42,271 --> 00:09:43,444 And I still haven't. 166 00:09:43,513 --> 00:09:46,413 So, for it to be, like, on a global scale, 167 00:09:46,482 --> 00:09:50,486 it's, like, super amplified and you feel really, like... 168 00:09:51,901 --> 00:09:53,282 ...small. 169 00:09:54,317 --> 00:09:56,872 But you also feel like a bit of a burden on people 170 00:09:56,941 --> 00:09:59,702 if you try and say things to them, so it got to the point 171 00:09:59,771 --> 00:10:02,429 where it was like, I'm just not gonna say anything. 172 00:10:02,532 --> 00:10:07,158 So, why have you started doing this documentary now? Why now? 173 00:10:07,227 --> 00:10:08,815 I dunno, it just felt right. 174 00:10:08,884 --> 00:10:13,026 If you asked me this five years ago or even, like, two years ago, 175 00:10:13,129 --> 00:10:14,683 I would've said no. 176 00:10:14,786 --> 00:10:18,238 Just because I don't feel like I was in the right headspace 177 00:10:18,307 --> 00:10:22,414 to kind of address things that are really personal. 178 00:10:23,553 --> 00:10:29,042 There was probably only so much I could probably take, and... 179 00:10:31,803 --> 00:10:36,187 I don't know how much I would've been able to... I don't wanna cry. 180 00:10:36,290 --> 00:10:37,913 You can cry. Let it out. 181 00:10:37,982 --> 00:10:39,328 I'm gonna cry. Don't! 182 00:10:39,397 --> 00:10:41,502 I don't wanna cry, but... It's OK. 183 00:10:41,571 --> 00:10:45,368 But you're finally letting this massive weight off your shoulders 184 00:10:45,437 --> 00:10:48,993 and gonna be able to breath for the first time.Yeah. 185 00:10:49,062 --> 00:10:51,098 We're very proud of you. 186 00:10:52,168 --> 00:10:53,618 [sighs] 187 00:10:55,275 --> 00:10:59,589 It felt like I had to keep it in, but I didn't wanna... 188 00:11:00,936 --> 00:11:04,387 I didn't wanna let out because I was too embarrassed 189 00:11:04,491 --> 00:11:08,357 to show that I was hurting. 190 00:11:08,426 --> 00:11:11,153 It's normal, like, it's really normal. 191 00:11:12,706 --> 00:11:15,985 Everyone grieves differently, that's one thing I've learnt. 192 00:11:16,054 --> 00:11:19,644 Some people scream and cry, some people don't talk, some people... 193 00:11:19,748 --> 00:11:24,407 I don't think there is a right way, but I'm glad you're doing this. 194 00:11:24,476 --> 00:11:25,581 Yeah. 195 00:11:27,100 --> 00:11:29,205 It was really nice talking to them. 196 00:11:29,274 --> 00:11:31,898 They understood something new about me. 197 00:11:31,967 --> 00:11:37,351 Just feels nice to kind of unravel another level of friendship. 198 00:11:39,112 --> 00:11:42,184 Never really sat down and, like, 199 00:11:42,287 --> 00:11:46,257 allowed them to see the vulnerable side of me. 200 00:11:51,952 --> 00:11:52,159 . 201 00:11:52,263 --> 00:11:52,401 . 202 00:12:03,515 --> 00:12:06,277 'Sylvia Young's Theatre School was where Amy went 203 00:12:06,346 --> 00:12:08,589 and she insisted I went there too.' 204 00:12:08,693 --> 00:12:12,352 'It was a place filled with many happy memories for us both.' 205 00:12:12,421 --> 00:12:15,182 'I've come back today to speak to Sylvia herself 206 00:12:15,286 --> 00:12:17,737 and see what she remembers of that time.' 207 00:12:19,911 --> 00:12:21,741 Hi, it's Dionne. 208 00:12:27,574 --> 00:12:31,474 So I've literally just clocked that that is Amy. 209 00:12:31,578 --> 00:12:33,683 This one right here. 210 00:12:33,787 --> 00:12:37,826 When she was younger, I'm assuming she's probably about 14 or 15. 211 00:12:37,895 --> 00:12:40,898 She's never changed, she's still got those big eyes. 212 00:12:44,073 --> 00:12:46,524 Hiya. Hello, Dionne. 213 00:12:46,627 --> 00:12:48,457 Oh, it's lovely to see you. 214 00:12:48,526 --> 00:12:51,563 The last time I was actually in these doors I think it... 215 00:12:51,667 --> 00:12:54,843 I was 15, 16, in my last... 16, yeah.Yeah. 216 00:12:54,946 --> 00:12:58,570 I'd be really interested to know, like, what Amy was like as a student. 217 00:12:58,639 --> 00:13:01,919 I always said that Amy was brilliant. Brilliantly clever. 218 00:13:02,022 --> 00:13:03,230 We put her up a year. 219 00:13:03,575 --> 00:13:07,027 Our English teacher thought she'd be a novelist or a journalist/ 220 00:13:07,096 --> 00:13:10,513 Obviously we were hoping that her career went with the singing, 221 00:13:10,582 --> 00:13:12,826 which was the obvious career for her. 222 00:13:12,895 --> 00:13:15,725 She always spoke highly of the singing teacher, Ray. 223 00:13:15,795 --> 00:13:18,832 Yeah, Ray Lamb, our Head of Music. Yeah, he loved her. 224 00:13:18,901 --> 00:13:21,214 And Ray did a number of recordings with her, 225 00:13:21,317 --> 00:13:24,286 which we sent off to the National Youth Jazz Orchestra. 226 00:13:24,355 --> 00:13:27,323 She got her audition, and then started with them, 227 00:13:27,392 --> 00:13:29,843 which was a great start to her career. 228 00:13:29,947 --> 00:13:31,638 I was very fond of Amy. 229 00:13:31,741 --> 00:13:35,642 I just thought she was a wild spirit and Amy was Amy. 230 00:13:35,711 --> 00:13:38,058 She broke rules right, left and centre 231 00:13:38,162 --> 00:13:41,475 but she always apologised beautifully.Oh, yeah. 232 00:13:41,544 --> 00:13:45,514 So, do you remember the conversation you had with Amy regarding me? 233 00:13:45,617 --> 00:13:48,862 Yeah, Amy phoned me and she said "I've got this gorgeous girl, 234 00:13:48,931 --> 00:13:51,209 my goddaughter, and she can sing, 235 00:13:51,278 --> 00:13:53,694 and I think she should be with you." Oh. 236 00:13:53,763 --> 00:13:57,043 And I said "Well, if you say she can sing..." Yeah, yeah, yeah. 237 00:13:57,112 --> 00:14:00,080 "...then she can sing." And I said, "Love to meet her." 238 00:14:01,461 --> 00:14:03,152 I think Amy saw the vision. 239 00:14:03,221 --> 00:14:06,707 She not only had experienced this school herself, 240 00:14:06,811 --> 00:14:11,126 so she knew what they were great at, but she knew what I was lacking. 241 00:14:11,229 --> 00:14:13,853 It's quite funny now that I kicked off a big fuss 242 00:14:13,922 --> 00:14:16,510 and was, like, crying to not come to this school 243 00:14:16,579 --> 00:14:22,275 because, you know, I would do it over again, I really would, it's... 244 00:14:22,344 --> 00:14:24,691 It's a great school. It really is. 245 00:14:28,212 --> 00:14:31,974 Did you feel like there was a dramatic change in how I was 246 00:14:32,078 --> 00:14:34,735 before Amy had passed and after? 247 00:14:34,804 --> 00:14:38,601 I did feel there was a change. I think were far more serious. 248 00:14:38,670 --> 00:14:41,846 Really? You were thinking more deeply, yeah. 249 00:14:41,915 --> 00:14:44,814 I think it did affect you, obviously, erm, 250 00:14:44,884 --> 00:14:47,472 because she was so special to you. Mm. 251 00:14:49,612 --> 00:14:55,446 I didn't realise how much Amy's passing affected me, 252 00:14:55,515 --> 00:14:56,930 and it showed. 253 00:14:57,034 --> 00:15:02,108 And I feel like the Dionne then had no idea what was to come, and... 254 00:15:03,523 --> 00:15:06,698 ...that's what's quite sad. 255 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:10,840 It's just sad. 256 00:15:12,670 --> 00:15:14,914 Ladies and gentlemen, Amy Winehouse. 257 00:15:15,017 --> 00:15:17,192 [cheering, applause] 258 00:15:23,750 --> 00:15:27,650 # Meet you downstairs In the bar and heard 259 00:15:27,719 --> 00:15:30,860 # Your rolled up sleeves In your skull T-shirt... # 260 00:15:30,930 --> 00:15:32,793 'In 2008, Amy had done 261 00:15:32,897 --> 00:15:36,073 what no other British female artist had done before, 262 00:15:36,142 --> 00:15:39,490 by winning five awards at the Grammys.' 263 00:15:39,559 --> 00:15:42,044 I do remember the night Amy won the Grammys. 264 00:15:42,148 --> 00:15:43,804 I really, really wanted to go, 265 00:15:43,873 --> 00:15:46,946 but wasn't allowed to go because I had school the next day. 266 00:15:47,877 --> 00:15:50,846 I did see the Grammys. They weren't actually at her house. 267 00:15:50,950 --> 00:15:53,055 When I saw them they were at Management, 268 00:15:53,124 --> 00:15:56,265 but that's typical Amy, all her accolades were never there. 269 00:15:56,334 --> 00:15:59,682 They were either with her mum or her dad or wherever she left them. 270 00:16:01,822 --> 00:16:04,929 'With this achievement, she had a vision to create a label 271 00:16:04,998 --> 00:16:06,689 to help other young artists.' 272 00:16:06,758 --> 00:16:09,761 'And following the viral success of our clip on YouTube, 273 00:16:09,830 --> 00:16:13,627 I was going to be the first person she signed to her label, Lioness.' 274 00:16:13,731 --> 00:16:16,803 [man]Big smile, Dionne. Lovely. 275 00:16:16,872 --> 00:16:22,084 When I met Dionne, she was singing and I went, "Hey, you can sing!" 276 00:16:22,188 --> 00:16:24,914 She's so much better than I was at that age, really. 277 00:16:25,018 --> 00:16:27,331 I mean, just so proud of her, really. 278 00:16:27,434 --> 00:16:30,886 And it's... it's very effortless. 279 00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:32,612 You know, Dionne's only 13. 280 00:16:32,681 --> 00:16:36,581 This is the thing I say to Dionne and her mum all the time, 281 00:16:36,685 --> 00:16:40,171 I'm like, "Listen, Dionne will always have offers." 282 00:16:40,275 --> 00:16:43,002 But at the same time I'm like, I kinda don't want you to 283 00:16:43,105 --> 00:16:44,831 cos I want you to do it all with me. 284 00:16:44,934 --> 00:16:46,902 I don't want anyone else to have you. 285 00:16:46,971 --> 00:16:48,973 The signing was really natural. 286 00:16:49,042 --> 00:16:52,977 "Working" with somebody who's like family, 287 00:16:53,046 --> 00:16:56,394 it didn't feel like a chore or a job. 288 00:16:56,463 --> 00:16:58,569 It just was like, I love what I'm doing 289 00:16:58,638 --> 00:17:01,020 and I'm so lucky to be able to have somebody 290 00:17:01,123 --> 00:17:04,713 who can give me the tools to do it on a great level. 291 00:17:04,782 --> 00:17:08,579 Dionne knows she'll always have my whole support, my whole support. 292 00:17:08,682 --> 00:17:12,307 If she called me up and said, "Amy, d'you think I should do this song?" 293 00:17:12,376 --> 00:17:15,310 I'd be like, "Dionne, you know what song you should do, 294 00:17:15,379 --> 00:17:16,621 you know yourself." 295 00:17:16,725 --> 00:17:19,659 "You know what suits you, you know what you love more, 296 00:17:19,762 --> 00:17:22,524 so do what you love, like, do what you love." 297 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,705 'Someone who worked closely with Amy on Back to Black 298 00:17:31,809 --> 00:17:33,983 was her Chief Engineer, Jon Moon.' 299 00:17:34,053 --> 00:17:36,469 'He also helped me with my first album.' 300 00:17:37,435 --> 00:17:40,611 'As I piece together the memories of that time in my life, 301 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,337 I am keen to see him again.' 302 00:17:46,893 --> 00:17:49,378 Hello, hello. How are you? 303 00:17:49,482 --> 00:17:51,484 I haven't been here in so long. Yeah. 304 00:17:51,553 --> 00:17:52,933 You look well. Thank you. 305 00:17:53,002 --> 00:17:54,625 Always look well. So do you. 306 00:17:54,728 --> 00:17:58,111 I don't think I actually know, like, how did you meet Amy? 307 00:17:58,180 --> 00:18:01,735 Oh, how did I meet Amy? Right, well, erm... 308 00:18:02,943 --> 00:18:04,704 That was here, that was here. 309 00:18:04,773 --> 00:18:07,603 And d'you remember it, like, quite vividly?Vividly. 310 00:18:07,672 --> 00:18:08,846 Really? Vividly. 311 00:18:08,915 --> 00:18:10,710 She came in, red high heels, 312 00:18:10,779 --> 00:18:13,782 and she turned towards me with those eyes and she's like, 313 00:18:13,885 --> 00:18:16,957 "No, no, no, don't want anything posh, just give me a 58." 314 00:18:17,026 --> 00:18:20,823 And slapped the microphone out the way. "OK, I'll give you a 58." 315 00:18:20,927 --> 00:18:23,378 And that's kind of what we used a lot of the time. 316 00:18:23,447 --> 00:18:26,105 She came in for a lot of rehearsals and recordings 317 00:18:26,174 --> 00:18:28,383 and these would go on for days at a time. 318 00:18:28,452 --> 00:18:31,006 This became her home. And in the booth there, 319 00:18:31,075 --> 00:18:33,940 she'd set it up like a lounge, like a living room.Yeah. 320 00:18:34,009 --> 00:18:37,668 # Well, sometimes I go out by myself 321 00:18:37,771 --> 00:18:40,878 # And I look across the water... 322 00:18:40,947 --> 00:18:44,813 She knew who she was and she was not gonna be influenced 323 00:18:44,882 --> 00:18:47,678 by whatever was popping at that time. 324 00:18:47,747 --> 00:18:50,646 And I think that's why everyone loved her so much, 325 00:18:50,715 --> 00:18:52,924 is she was just authentically Amy. 326 00:18:53,925 --> 00:18:58,137 She always used to say, "How can you do things that you don't really feel 327 00:18:58,206 --> 00:19:00,173 or it's not you?" 328 00:19:00,242 --> 00:19:04,591 She just couldn't really hide who she was, it was just there. 329 00:19:04,660 --> 00:19:06,248 # Oh, won't you come on over? 330 00:19:06,317 --> 00:19:09,044 # Stop making a fool out of me... # 331 00:19:09,113 --> 00:19:13,393 Amy was very enthusiastic about things that she loved, 332 00:19:13,462 --> 00:19:15,913 and she talked a lot about you before I met you 333 00:19:15,982 --> 00:19:18,191 and saying what an amazing voice you had, 334 00:19:18,295 --> 00:19:20,987 and, "You've gotta meet Dionne, she's incredible." 335 00:19:21,090 --> 00:19:22,540 She had a vision for you, 336 00:19:22,609 --> 00:19:26,095 and she was so brilliant at sharing that vision. 337 00:19:26,165 --> 00:19:29,340 She put people together in a way that was so insightful, 338 00:19:29,409 --> 00:19:32,240 and I think that came across not just in her music 339 00:19:32,343 --> 00:19:34,345 but in the way she was. 340 00:19:34,414 --> 00:19:36,865 And the way people perceived her, you know? 341 00:19:36,968 --> 00:19:40,213 I think that's one of the things that I found difficult, 342 00:19:40,282 --> 00:19:44,044 the media was.. that was just a millisecond picture 343 00:19:44,148 --> 00:19:45,977 that they took there, you know? 344 00:19:46,046 --> 00:19:51,224 And it just... it never justified how much of a being she was. Yeah. 345 00:19:53,433 --> 00:19:58,335 I was aware of what was happening, but I chose to not look at that 346 00:19:58,438 --> 00:20:00,060 because the Amy that I saw 347 00:20:00,129 --> 00:20:03,892 was always a beautiful, caring, loving person. 348 00:20:03,961 --> 00:20:06,170 Like, I don't care or give a crap 349 00:20:06,274 --> 00:20:09,035 about what everyone else is saying outside 350 00:20:09,138 --> 00:20:11,831 because what I see is this person. 351 00:20:15,524 --> 00:20:17,595 She's just 13 years old 352 00:20:17,664 --> 00:20:20,978 and this is her first appearance on British television. 353 00:20:21,047 --> 00:20:25,293 She's here performing with her godmother, Amy Winehouse. 354 00:20:25,396 --> 00:20:28,848 Ladies and gentlemen, Miss Dionne Bromfield. 355 00:20:30,470 --> 00:20:33,093 [backing singers]# Ooh, ooh... 356 00:20:33,197 --> 00:20:34,336 # Mama said... 357 00:20:34,612 --> 00:20:37,753 'And the night I felt Amy's care and support towards me the most 358 00:20:37,857 --> 00:20:41,309 was when she decided to use the biggest show on British television 359 00:20:41,378 --> 00:20:42,517 to launch my career.' 360 00:20:42,586 --> 00:20:45,209 # There'll be days like this My mama said 361 00:20:45,313 --> 00:20:46,900 # Mama said, mama said # 362 00:20:46,969 --> 00:20:49,109 Her support felt amazing. 363 00:20:49,178 --> 00:20:53,286 I respected her as a person, but also musically I respected her. 364 00:20:53,355 --> 00:20:56,841 And having that person that I idolised, musically, 365 00:20:56,945 --> 00:21:00,638 guiding me, that's the best training you can get. 366 00:21:01,984 --> 00:21:04,677 Just before we went to do Strictly Come Dancing, 367 00:21:04,746 --> 00:21:07,058 so, like, literally side of stage, 368 00:21:07,127 --> 00:21:09,682 and she was sorting out the ruffles on my dress 369 00:21:09,751 --> 00:21:12,374 to make sure I looked smart. 370 00:21:12,443 --> 00:21:15,584 And she was just like, "Ignore the noise, I'm right there." 371 00:21:15,653 --> 00:21:19,381 "The band are there, they're my band, they're gonna smash it with you." 372 00:21:19,485 --> 00:21:22,660 She was just trying to make me get, you know, ready, 373 00:21:22,764 --> 00:21:26,664 and take away the kind of... the vibe that was around, 374 00:21:26,768 --> 00:21:30,772 which obviously was, "Oh, she's about to do live TV, she's only 13." 375 00:21:30,841 --> 00:21:33,913 "This either could go really well or really, like, bad." 376 00:21:34,016 --> 00:21:38,607 This is, like, the start of what was to come for me musically. 377 00:21:41,092 --> 00:21:44,544 [cheering, applause] 378 00:21:44,648 --> 00:21:48,548 My most memorable moment with Amy, and it's really funny 379 00:21:48,617 --> 00:21:51,689 cos I think most people are gonna expect me to say, like, 380 00:21:51,758 --> 00:21:54,071 "Oh, yeah, when we went on holiday here 381 00:21:54,140 --> 00:21:56,315 and we went to some glitzy thing," 382 00:21:56,384 --> 00:22:01,492 actually just, like, having a walk round London, just the two of us. 383 00:22:01,596 --> 00:22:05,496 Because that was so unrealistic at a certain point, 384 00:22:05,565 --> 00:22:09,466 because you just couldn't walk down the road without her getting noticed 385 00:22:09,535 --> 00:22:12,469 or someone hassling her, but if you did get that moment, 386 00:22:12,538 --> 00:22:15,299 it was special because you could just walk and talk. 387 00:22:15,368 --> 00:22:17,750 That was my... my most special moment, 388 00:22:17,819 --> 00:22:22,513 just us two walking and talking in, like, the night time of London. 389 00:22:33,731 --> 00:22:37,666 So much of my life was based in and around Camden. 390 00:22:37,770 --> 00:22:40,255 There was a purpose for me being here 391 00:22:40,324 --> 00:22:43,431 but, you know, in the last ten years, a lot's changed, 392 00:22:43,500 --> 00:22:47,504 so there's no real reason to... to come here anymore. 393 00:22:48,953 --> 00:22:52,025 # For you, I was a flame 394 00:22:53,648 --> 00:22:57,928 # Love is a losing game 395 00:22:59,308 --> 00:23:04,037 # Five-storey fire as you came 396 00:23:05,660 --> 00:23:08,456 # Love is a losing game... 397 00:23:08,525 --> 00:23:11,424 She called herself the Queen of Camden, she loved it. 398 00:23:11,493 --> 00:23:16,912 Camden really rubbed off on her and it left its stamp on her, 399 00:23:16,981 --> 00:23:19,915 and she left her stamp on Camden. 400 00:23:20,882 --> 00:23:24,575 So, to have her placed around Camden only kinda feels right. 401 00:23:26,681 --> 00:23:30,305 # And now the final frame 402 00:23:31,340 --> 00:23:35,414 # Love is a losing game # 403 00:23:35,517 --> 00:23:37,381 'But there is one place in Camden 404 00:23:37,450 --> 00:23:40,557 that holds the rawest memories for me.' 405 00:23:40,626 --> 00:23:45,044 I guess this place for me is... well, really, like, poignant 406 00:23:45,113 --> 00:23:48,150 because this is obviously the last time I saw Amy, 407 00:23:48,254 --> 00:23:51,602 and this is actually, like, the first time 408 00:23:51,671 --> 00:23:55,088 I've stood outside it and looked at it. 409 00:23:55,157 --> 00:24:00,128 Probably...probably since I performed here. 410 00:24:02,337 --> 00:24:04,960 'That night, Amy came up on stage with me.' 411 00:24:05,029 --> 00:24:06,928 'It was incredible.' 412 00:24:06,997 --> 00:24:09,655 'But three days later, she died.' 413 00:24:09,724 --> 00:24:14,073 'This journey is helping me deal with things I have buried really deep.' 414 00:24:14,176 --> 00:24:17,179 'But I don't feel ready to go back in here yet.' 415 00:24:24,014 --> 00:24:24,221 . 416 00:24:24,324 --> 00:24:24,463 . 417 00:24:30,641 --> 00:24:33,782 'On the 23rd of July, 2011, 418 00:24:33,886 --> 00:24:38,373 I lost my godmother, Amy Winehouse, and the world lost an icon.' 419 00:24:38,442 --> 00:24:41,928 [newsreader] 'Later, the singer's goddaughter visited her home 420 00:24:41,997 --> 00:24:44,655 where a shrine has been building since Saturday.' 421 00:24:44,759 --> 00:24:47,900 'Dionne Bromfield was the last person to perform with Amy, 422 00:24:48,003 --> 00:24:49,660 just days before her death.' 423 00:24:49,764 --> 00:24:53,008 'And so, despite a life played out in the public arena, 424 00:24:53,077 --> 00:24:57,703 it was a very private one that said goodbye to Amy Winehouse.' 425 00:24:57,772 --> 00:25:01,258 Obviously, it's always hard when you lose someone close to you, 426 00:25:01,361 --> 00:25:04,399 but when you lose someone and it's, like, worldwide news, 427 00:25:04,503 --> 00:25:07,402 then that must be even more difficult. No, definitely. 428 00:25:07,506 --> 00:25:10,716 And I was actually in Wales at the time supporting The Wanted. 429 00:25:10,785 --> 00:25:13,822 Obviously I was in the dressing room, but my mum and Jevan, 430 00:25:13,926 --> 00:25:15,962 who was Amy's PA, didn't, erm... 431 00:25:16,031 --> 00:25:18,827 They found out about an hour or so before I found out, 432 00:25:18,896 --> 00:25:20,553 but they didn't wanna tell me. 433 00:25:23,004 --> 00:25:25,144 I was in Wales performing. 434 00:25:25,247 --> 00:25:27,940 It was, like, in the middle of this field, 435 00:25:28,043 --> 00:25:30,356 cos I was getting ready for a gig, 436 00:25:30,459 --> 00:25:32,634 and I knew something had changed 437 00:25:32,703 --> 00:25:36,189 because everyone's atmosphere changed. 438 00:25:36,293 --> 00:25:40,849 Everyone just kind of, like, started becoming extremely quiet. 439 00:25:40,918 --> 00:25:43,472 And everyone was usually, like, quite pumped 440 00:25:43,542 --> 00:25:45,371 to go and do the show or whatever. 441 00:25:45,474 --> 00:25:49,582 And I got the news that she'd passed... 442 00:25:49,651 --> 00:25:51,998 and it didn't really make sense. 443 00:25:52,067 --> 00:25:55,036 Maybe I didn't wanna believe it, maybe I was just like, 444 00:25:55,105 --> 00:25:58,833 "Can't be true. Saw her three days ago, what you talking about? No." 445 00:26:00,041 --> 00:26:03,285 'Someone that could help me make sense of that exact time 446 00:26:03,354 --> 00:26:06,495 was Amy's personal assistant and good friend, Jevan.' 447 00:26:06,565 --> 00:26:10,327 ' When I started touring, Amy asked him specifically to look after me.' 448 00:26:10,396 --> 00:26:13,019 It's been ten years since Amy's passing. 449 00:26:13,123 --> 00:26:15,159 Me and you were around each other a lot. 450 00:26:15,228 --> 00:26:18,266 We experienced a lot together, so you're probably one of 451 00:26:18,369 --> 00:26:21,890 a certain amount of people who can really give a good insight to it. 452 00:26:21,994 --> 00:26:25,549 Yeah, I remember get... looking at my phone, 453 00:26:25,618 --> 00:26:29,139 and my first thought was protect you. 454 00:26:29,242 --> 00:26:31,279 I didn't want you to have any idea, 455 00:26:31,348 --> 00:26:34,006 especially because you were about to go on stage, 456 00:26:34,075 --> 00:26:36,560 and it was just you and I in the room at this point 457 00:26:36,664 --> 00:26:39,632 and I was, like, adamant that I wouldn't look at you. 458 00:26:39,701 --> 00:26:44,050 It's weird because you didn't have to say anything, I just felt something. 459 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,501 It's like almost the room went cold. 460 00:26:46,570 --> 00:26:49,159 Yeah. And I just remember, erm... 461 00:26:49,228 --> 00:26:52,990 It wasn't like... I was fine, like, I could've kept the facade up 462 00:26:53,094 --> 00:26:55,165 for as long as it needed to be kept up, 463 00:26:55,234 --> 00:26:58,064 but then I remember feeling your hand on my shoulder. 464 00:26:58,168 --> 00:27:01,378 It's when you touched me that I just felt this, like, 465 00:27:01,481 --> 00:27:05,520 overwhelming sense of, like, guilt, because I just felt like 466 00:27:05,589 --> 00:27:09,075 I'm trying to hide this, like, massive thing from you, 467 00:27:09,144 --> 00:27:11,802 and I couldn't help but cry. 468 00:27:11,906 --> 00:27:16,531 And then you were like, "It's Amy, isn't it?" Or whatever. 469 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,775 I was just like, "I have to tell you." 470 00:27:18,844 --> 00:27:22,261 Then the tour manager came in, he was like, "D'you wanna leave?" 471 00:27:22,364 --> 00:27:26,230 I think we all kind of... almost reverted to being children 472 00:27:26,334 --> 00:27:27,853 and you took the adult role 473 00:27:27,956 --> 00:27:30,821 cos you were like, "Everybody just chill." 474 00:27:30,890 --> 00:27:35,930 "No, we're gonna, you know, fulfil this commitment'.Mm. 475 00:27:36,033 --> 00:27:39,658 And then, unfortunately, because someone had an iPad there 476 00:27:39,727 --> 00:27:43,040 and one of the boys had been looking at the Daily Mail website 477 00:27:43,109 --> 00:27:46,319 and they had, like... were pulling out her body from the house 478 00:27:46,423 --> 00:27:48,114 and it was, like, the front page, 479 00:27:48,183 --> 00:27:51,324 and I remember seeing that and it was just a bit like, "What?' 480 00:27:51,393 --> 00:27:55,604 So it was like almost I was still waiting for someone to say, like... 481 00:27:55,708 --> 00:27:58,124 Oh, yeah. "You've just been punked." Like... 482 00:27:58,193 --> 00:28:02,715 A sick punk it would've been, but, like, I was expecting that. 483 00:28:02,819 --> 00:28:05,649 And, like, even going on stage, I remember, like, 484 00:28:05,718 --> 00:28:08,238 I just couldn't do any of the, like, routines. 485 00:28:08,307 --> 00:28:09,757 My body was just like... 486 00:28:09,860 --> 00:28:13,519 My mouth was singing and I kinda was looking at people 487 00:28:13,588 --> 00:28:16,487 and I remember people in the audience kind of... 488 00:28:16,556 --> 00:28:18,455 They were just becoming aware of it 489 00:28:18,524 --> 00:28:21,803 and people were looking at their phones and then kind of like, 490 00:28:21,907 --> 00:28:23,218 "Oh, my God..." 491 00:28:23,322 --> 00:28:25,980 And then looking at me and it was just like... 492 00:28:26,083 --> 00:28:27,360 You're just existing. 493 00:28:29,052 --> 00:28:33,401 I always wish I was slightly older when Amy was alive, 494 00:28:33,470 --> 00:28:37,094 because I feel like the conversations we potentially could've had 495 00:28:37,198 --> 00:28:40,028 could've been a little bit more deeper, erm... 496 00:28:41,098 --> 00:28:44,481 ...in regards to addiction and stuff like that. 497 00:28:45,447 --> 00:28:47,726 I was aware she was struggling with things, 498 00:28:47,829 --> 00:28:50,729 but I don't think she probably wanted to have heard it 499 00:28:50,832 --> 00:28:53,421 from a younger person, much younger as well. 500 00:28:53,490 --> 00:28:56,873 Because I know that's a side of her that she didn't want me to see. 501 00:28:56,942 --> 00:28:58,909 That's like with you, I'd never... 502 00:28:58,978 --> 00:29:02,016 Amy never used in front of me, I never witnessed that. 503 00:29:02,085 --> 00:29:03,811 Yeah, as mad as it sounds, 504 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,677 she's probably a lot more responsible than the public image 505 00:29:08,747 --> 00:29:11,197 that was painted of her gave off, you know? 506 00:29:11,266 --> 00:29:14,407 I know a lot of people within the industry, sadly, 507 00:29:14,476 --> 00:29:16,755 who are suffering with addiction. 508 00:29:16,858 --> 00:29:19,274 However, they've been able to kind of 509 00:29:19,343 --> 00:29:21,449 fight their demons in private almost 510 00:29:21,518 --> 00:29:27,489 because there was no limelight shining on that particular person. 511 00:29:27,558 --> 00:29:31,700 But in our case, it was everywhere. Yeah. 512 00:29:31,770 --> 00:29:34,738 Like, you couldn't turn without seeing something. 513 00:29:36,015 --> 00:29:41,262 I do wish either of us potentially had a conversation earlier, 514 00:29:41,365 --> 00:29:44,230 even if it was two years after she passed... 515 00:29:45,404 --> 00:29:48,407 ...but it probably wasn't the right moment.Yeah. 516 00:29:51,099 --> 00:29:55,552 What was most surprising for me was the fact that he was feeling 517 00:29:55,655 --> 00:29:59,107 the same sort of things that I was feeling. 518 00:29:59,211 --> 00:30:00,660 And that's why it's like, 519 00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:04,457 I wish we both had come and spoken to each other a little bit more sooner 520 00:30:04,526 --> 00:30:07,322 because we both were feeling the exact same things 521 00:30:07,391 --> 00:30:09,428 but we both just wouldn't mention it, 522 00:30:09,531 --> 00:30:12,189 which is, like, wild really to me because... 523 00:30:13,604 --> 00:30:16,815 ...it would've took a lot of pressure off of the pair of us. 524 00:30:18,609 --> 00:30:22,234 'Meeting Jevan has got me thinking about the last time I saw Amy 525 00:30:22,303 --> 00:30:24,788 and the experience I shared with her.' 526 00:30:24,857 --> 00:30:27,549 This picture is actually the last picture 527 00:30:27,618 --> 00:30:29,655 that I've got of myself and Amy, 528 00:30:29,758 --> 00:30:33,038 and this was three days before she passed. 529 00:30:33,107 --> 00:30:35,419 This is backstage in my dressing room. 530 00:30:35,488 --> 00:30:38,802 Little did I know that this would be the last actual picture 531 00:30:38,871 --> 00:30:41,391 that I would have of myself and her. 532 00:30:42,323 --> 00:30:45,119 Or that this would be the last time I saw her. 533 00:30:45,188 --> 00:30:46,914 Amy loved life too much. 534 00:30:46,983 --> 00:30:50,952 She wasn't somebody that was, like, gonna give it up that easily. 535 00:30:51,021 --> 00:30:53,748 This is not somebody who... 536 00:30:53,817 --> 00:30:56,578 ...got themselves off of drugs three years prior 537 00:30:56,682 --> 00:30:58,684 and never touched it again. 538 00:30:59,719 --> 00:31:03,585 To me, that's not a woman that doesn't wanna be alive. 539 00:31:06,209 --> 00:31:08,867 It's still really baffling, 540 00:31:08,936 --> 00:31:12,836 because to me, this was, like, the healthiest I'd ever seen her 541 00:31:12,905 --> 00:31:14,734 and she was, like, beaming. 542 00:31:14,803 --> 00:31:17,220 I can't explain it, but all I can say is 543 00:31:17,323 --> 00:31:21,293 it's like she was shining so bright 544 00:31:21,362 --> 00:31:23,778 that maybe it just had to burst. 545 00:31:25,021 --> 00:31:30,716 And it was really hard for me to comprehend 546 00:31:30,785 --> 00:31:33,615 that she was so well, 547 00:31:33,684 --> 00:31:39,207 but yet three days later, something so tragic happened. 548 00:31:39,276 --> 00:31:44,695 It was really hard to... to register that. 549 00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:53,773 'Now at 25, I realise Amy was shielding me 550 00:31:53,877 --> 00:31:56,500 from a lot of the things she was struggling with.' 551 00:31:58,157 --> 00:32:02,299 'I wanna hear from other young people who have lost someone to addiction 552 00:32:02,403 --> 00:32:03,645 and learn from them.' 553 00:32:03,991 --> 00:32:08,064 'We are all meeting for the first time, but share similar experiences.' 554 00:32:08,167 --> 00:32:09,444 Hi, guys. 555 00:32:09,513 --> 00:32:10,790 Hi.Hello. How are you? 556 00:32:10,963 --> 00:32:15,554 I've been really going on a journey addressing Amy, my godmother. 557 00:32:15,657 --> 00:32:20,145 It's been ten years since she's passed and I'd say in the last year, 558 00:32:20,248 --> 00:32:25,115 I've only really started to accept and acknowledge 559 00:32:25,184 --> 00:32:27,117 the fact she's not here. 560 00:32:27,186 --> 00:32:30,638 And also, like, all the emotions that I'd kind of bottled up 561 00:32:30,741 --> 00:32:33,641 and just thrown them, you know, to the back of my head, 562 00:32:33,744 --> 00:32:36,885 I've started to really bring them to light. 563 00:32:36,989 --> 00:32:40,027 So it'll be really interesting to see how you guys 564 00:32:40,130 --> 00:32:42,408 coped with grief or addiction. 565 00:32:42,477 --> 00:32:44,169 I think I was about 12 566 00:32:44,238 --> 00:32:47,172 when I realised that my dad had a drinking problem. 567 00:32:47,241 --> 00:32:49,070 So I was aware of it. 568 00:32:49,139 --> 00:32:53,419 But it's always kind of, you know, pushed under the carpet, no one... 569 00:32:53,488 --> 00:32:56,698 ...no one likes to discuss addiction.No. 570 00:32:56,767 --> 00:32:59,770 When you're young, people don't talk to you about it, 571 00:32:59,874 --> 00:33:01,772 in some way trying to protect you, 572 00:33:01,841 --> 00:33:04,741 but you see it, like, you know, 573 00:33:04,810 --> 00:33:07,433 and in some way it makes it even harder to place it 574 00:33:07,537 --> 00:33:11,437 because you're seeing this thing but you have no context to understand, 575 00:33:11,506 --> 00:33:14,268 "Is this person an addict? Do they need to stop?" 576 00:33:14,371 --> 00:33:17,478 "Do I need to be begging them and screaming at them to stop?" 577 00:33:17,547 --> 00:33:22,172 [sighs] It's... it's hard because... 578 00:33:22,276 --> 00:33:27,591 ...I never really saw her... drunk, if I'm being completely honest. 579 00:33:27,695 --> 00:33:29,593 I never actually did see her drunk. 580 00:33:29,697 --> 00:33:34,495 But then I could pick up a newspaper and see something, 581 00:33:34,564 --> 00:33:37,256 and to me it was almost like two different worlds. 582 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:43,159 It took her death for me to realise that the drink was really that bad. 583 00:33:43,228 --> 00:33:47,715 I don't want to talk about her and call her an alcoholic... 584 00:33:48,957 --> 00:33:50,476 ...but... 585 00:33:50,580 --> 00:33:52,858 ...she was. D'you know what I mean? 586 00:33:52,961 --> 00:33:54,860 She was more than that, 587 00:33:54,929 --> 00:33:59,485 but at the same time I have to accept that it was also what it was. 588 00:33:59,554 --> 00:34:01,694 But it shouldn't be a shameful label. 589 00:34:01,763 --> 00:34:03,834 You know, just like disability. Yeah. 590 00:34:03,938 --> 00:34:06,975 That is a part of you, yeah, but it's not who you are. 591 00:34:07,045 --> 00:34:09,116 You know, there's so much more. 592 00:34:09,185 --> 00:34:11,566 But it's like embracing that side of her 593 00:34:11,635 --> 00:34:15,329 because at the end of the day, she is a whole person. 594 00:34:16,399 --> 00:34:21,887 I never really admitted that I felt a bit embarrassed sometimes, 595 00:34:21,956 --> 00:34:24,752 because there's such a stigma around addiction. 596 00:34:24,855 --> 00:34:30,516 So, hearing some of those guys mention that they've also, you know, 597 00:34:30,585 --> 00:34:32,967 parents or loved ones were addicted too, 598 00:34:33,071 --> 00:34:37,075 it goes to show, "Oh, like, I'm not..." 599 00:34:37,144 --> 00:34:39,974 "I'm not the only one. You guys felt this too." 600 00:34:40,078 --> 00:34:42,839 And also they shared similar kinda feelings. 601 00:34:42,942 --> 00:34:47,775 I wish I'd done this earlier, but my one thing that I've taken from this, 602 00:34:47,844 --> 00:34:51,296 it's never too late to actually talk to people. 603 00:34:56,094 --> 00:34:56,301 . 604 00:34:56,404 --> 00:34:56,542 . 605 00:35:04,343 --> 00:35:09,900 [man]Ladies and gentlemen, Miss Amy Winehouse! 606 00:35:09,969 --> 00:35:11,523 [music playing, cheering] 607 00:35:11,592 --> 00:35:13,904 # You tried to make me go to rehab 608 00:35:13,973 --> 00:35:17,253 # I said no, no, no 609 00:35:17,356 --> 00:35:20,394 # Yes, I've been black But when I come back 610 00:35:20,463 --> 00:35:23,569 # You'll know, know, know 611 00:35:23,638 --> 00:35:26,262 # I ain't got the time 612 00:35:26,365 --> 00:35:28,402 # But if my daddy thinks I'm fine... # 613 00:35:28,471 --> 00:35:31,267 'The last few weeks have been a roller coaster.' 614 00:35:31,336 --> 00:35:34,546 'I am revisiting my past with Amy through adults eyes now, 615 00:35:34,649 --> 00:35:36,858 but I need to make sense of it all 616 00:35:36,927 --> 00:35:39,516 and I still have unanswered questions.' 617 00:35:39,585 --> 00:35:42,726 'I think meeting an expert will give me some perspective 618 00:35:42,795 --> 00:35:46,144 and maybe even help me with some of the challenges I have.' 619 00:35:48,007 --> 00:35:51,735 I'm going to see a grief specialist, Andy. 620 00:35:51,804 --> 00:35:53,806 This for me, this is the first time 621 00:35:53,910 --> 00:35:58,225 I've ever really spoken to anyone one-on-one in ten years 622 00:35:58,328 --> 00:35:59,812 about how I felt. 623 00:35:59,881 --> 00:36:03,540 I'm a little bit nervous, I'm not gonna lie. But right now, 624 00:36:03,644 --> 00:36:07,095 I feel like this is actually one of the most important things to do. 625 00:36:16,208 --> 00:36:18,693 D'you wanna take a seat, Dionne? Yeah. 626 00:36:18,762 --> 00:36:21,420 [sighs] Super. 627 00:36:21,524 --> 00:36:25,183 I mean, if I'm being really honest, I've found it really, really hard 628 00:36:25,252 --> 00:36:28,841 to kind of address certain feelings, situations, 629 00:36:28,910 --> 00:36:32,845 or understand why I feel certain ways. 630 00:36:32,914 --> 00:36:35,917 But my coping mechanism was kind of, 631 00:36:36,021 --> 00:36:38,541 I have to show everyone that I'm being strong, 632 00:36:38,644 --> 00:36:41,716 and why would I be upset? Like, it is what it is. 633 00:36:41,820 --> 00:36:44,581 That's how I... I kind of dealt with things. 634 00:36:44,685 --> 00:36:48,723 So on one hand, you're sort of denied the possibility of grieving 635 00:36:48,792 --> 00:36:50,898 how you've wanted to grieve. Yeah. 636 00:36:50,967 --> 00:36:52,865 Like, almost not had permission, 637 00:36:52,934 --> 00:36:57,180 and also at the same time, there's pressures on you to be strong 638 00:36:57,284 --> 00:36:59,734 and to be a particular way. Yeah. 639 00:36:59,803 --> 00:37:04,222 For months, I would not cry. I didn't cry for a long, long time 640 00:37:04,291 --> 00:37:06,741 cos I just didn't feel like it needed to come, 641 00:37:06,845 --> 00:37:09,986 and then I remember, like, three, four months down the line 642 00:37:10,089 --> 00:37:14,128 that I just burst into tears because it just all got to me 643 00:37:14,197 --> 00:37:17,200 and it was... the trigger that got me was I saw something 644 00:37:17,304 --> 00:37:19,582 and I was like, "Amy would find that funny." 645 00:37:19,685 --> 00:37:23,068 And I remember, I went to go and, like, call her, 646 00:37:23,137 --> 00:37:26,002 and it was, "I can't do that." 647 00:37:26,105 --> 00:37:28,556 And from then, 648 00:37:28,625 --> 00:37:32,595 I couldn't listen to any of her music for years. 649 00:37:32,664 --> 00:37:36,564 I didn't like seeing stuff online that was written about her still. 650 00:37:36,633 --> 00:37:37,772 Videos. 651 00:37:38,083 --> 00:37:42,881 And it was all from that moment of me wanting to pick up the phone 652 00:37:42,950 --> 00:37:46,298 to call her about something and realising I actually can't. 653 00:37:46,367 --> 00:37:49,439 I mean, a lot of people say, "How can I get over this?" 654 00:37:49,508 --> 00:37:52,270 "How can I no longer feel like this?"Mm. 655 00:37:52,339 --> 00:37:56,101 And actually, it's not so much about getting over 656 00:37:56,170 --> 00:37:59,000 or closing a relationship or stopping that. 657 00:37:59,104 --> 00:38:01,865 It's actually about how do we stay connected 658 00:38:01,969 --> 00:38:04,385 with the memories of the person who's died. 659 00:38:08,286 --> 00:38:10,184 'I'm glad I met Andy.' 660 00:38:10,253 --> 00:38:12,704 'He's helped me put things into perspective 661 00:38:12,807 --> 00:38:16,121 and reminded me that it's not about closing this chapter, 662 00:38:16,190 --> 00:38:18,917 but embracing everything Amy left me with.' 663 00:38:20,367 --> 00:38:25,889 And I guess this is probably, like, one of my most prized possessions 664 00:38:25,958 --> 00:38:30,342 that Amy had given me, and it was a pinkie ring that was hers, 665 00:38:30,411 --> 00:38:33,380 with a gold chain. 666 00:38:33,483 --> 00:38:36,175 And I will really, like, only wear this 667 00:38:36,244 --> 00:38:39,144 when I'm doing things that are, like, special. 668 00:38:39,213 --> 00:38:41,353 I don't really wear it every single day. 669 00:38:41,422 --> 00:38:44,460 I feel like this is almost like a bit of a, like, a blanket. 670 00:38:44,563 --> 00:38:47,221 It instantly reminds me of her. 671 00:38:49,223 --> 00:38:55,125 This guitar she wrote a bit of Frank on, and she gifted this to me, so... 672 00:38:55,229 --> 00:38:58,128 This is a baby blue Fender Strat, 673 00:38:58,232 --> 00:39:00,648 and it's the original strings, everything. 674 00:39:00,717 --> 00:39:03,720 You can even see the discolouration where it's so old. 675 00:39:03,789 --> 00:39:07,379 It means a lot that she gave this to me. 676 00:39:07,448 --> 00:39:10,417 She probably would be, like, cussing me right now, 677 00:39:10,486 --> 00:39:13,385 at the fact that I have not learnt properly how to play. 678 00:39:13,454 --> 00:39:16,492 This is a dress here that she wore 679 00:39:16,595 --> 00:39:19,357 for a gig that she done at Somerset House, 680 00:39:19,460 --> 00:39:23,844 and then I was shooting a music video and I just didn't like anything, 681 00:39:23,913 --> 00:39:26,191 and I said it to her and she was like, "Here." 682 00:39:26,294 --> 00:39:29,470 And then she pulled it out of her wardrobe, like, "Take this." 683 00:39:29,539 --> 00:39:31,921 If you love someone, you know their smell. 684 00:39:31,990 --> 00:39:34,958 Amy used to wear this raunchy perfume that if I smell it, 685 00:39:35,062 --> 00:39:36,995 I'm like, "That reminds me of Amy." 686 00:39:37,098 --> 00:39:39,687 And it's kind of this, I... Just by feeling it, 687 00:39:39,756 --> 00:39:42,587 you kind of feel like you're feeling her a bit. 688 00:39:42,656 --> 00:39:46,936 It's like this piece of fabric holds so many memories. 689 00:39:54,288 --> 00:39:57,256 'Dealing with Amy's loss was never going to be easy, 690 00:39:57,325 --> 00:39:59,604 and opening up to all the people I have met 691 00:39:59,673 --> 00:40:02,089 has given me a final shot of confidence 692 00:40:02,158 --> 00:40:05,230 to face returning to the Roundhouse.' 693 00:40:05,299 --> 00:40:08,336 'The last place I saw Amy alive.' 694 00:40:09,476 --> 00:40:12,893 'And now, it's time for me to go back inside.' 695 00:40:16,310 --> 00:40:18,830 So, when I was last here, 696 00:40:18,933 --> 00:40:22,247 which was the 23rd of July which was Roundhouse, 697 00:40:22,350 --> 00:40:25,423 I remember this so well actually because there was, like, 698 00:40:25,526 --> 00:40:28,046 some Portakabins there which were like... 699 00:40:28,149 --> 00:40:29,910 We had our backstage dressing room 700 00:40:30,013 --> 00:40:32,568 but we had also a dressing room out here as well, 701 00:40:32,637 --> 00:40:36,054 and this is where me and Amy, we chatted for ages 702 00:40:36,123 --> 00:40:39,644 and, you know, it was really, really nice, we just had loads of fun. 703 00:40:39,713 --> 00:40:43,164 It was actually the last place that I actually ended up seeing her. 704 00:40:43,268 --> 00:40:48,480 It feels strange because I haven't... I haven't set foot back in here. 705 00:41:01,528 --> 00:41:05,428 It's mixed emotions. Right now I feel really happy and I... 706 00:41:05,497 --> 00:41:08,500 It brings back such good memories. 707 00:41:08,604 --> 00:41:10,433 But it's also... 708 00:41:12,677 --> 00:41:17,475 ...a little bit tarnished by obviously what then happened. 709 00:41:19,684 --> 00:41:23,550 Erm, and also a little bit confusing because the night was so amazing, 710 00:41:23,619 --> 00:41:27,519 it's just like, how... how did we go from, you know, 711 00:41:27,588 --> 00:41:29,797 three days earlier before she passed, 712 00:41:29,866 --> 00:41:33,283 this amazing night where she was beaming, everything was good, 713 00:41:33,387 --> 00:41:35,872 she was on stage dancing, happy, you know. 714 00:41:35,976 --> 00:41:37,702 A proper, like... 715 00:41:39,048 --> 00:41:41,809 ...bright moment in life really. 716 00:41:43,846 --> 00:41:46,918 She just, like, ran up and hugged me and was just like... 717 00:41:47,021 --> 00:41:50,542 Just really happy. She was like, "I'm so happy, I'm so proud'. 718 00:41:50,646 --> 00:41:52,337 And I remember she said to me, 719 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,340 "Who would've thought you'd be singing in Camden 720 00:41:55,443 --> 00:41:58,377 with me in the Roundhouse? Crazy, right?" 721 00:41:59,482 --> 00:42:01,277 She did have a vision for me. 722 00:42:01,380 --> 00:42:04,245 I think I definitely knew what I wanted to do, but she... 723 00:42:04,349 --> 00:42:06,247 ...she wanted bigger things. 724 00:42:06,316 --> 00:42:08,940 And that's why I'm so appreciative and I'm so glad 725 00:42:09,043 --> 00:42:11,598 that I actually, this night, said to her, like, 726 00:42:11,667 --> 00:42:15,084 "Thank you so much for everything." And I'm so glad I said it. 727 00:42:15,187 --> 00:42:18,812 Because I probably would, like... that would haunt me to this day 728 00:42:18,881 --> 00:42:21,262 if I never was able to say, like, thank you. 729 00:42:30,962 --> 00:42:34,586 I came into this not really knowing where this journey would take me. 730 00:42:34,690 --> 00:42:37,313 I knew I had to go back to go forward. 731 00:42:38,625 --> 00:42:40,627 Ultimately, 732 00:42:40,696 --> 00:42:45,252 Amy was a person that wanted to make sure I was good. 733 00:42:46,391 --> 00:42:49,946 And to be completely honest, I wasn't good 734 00:42:50,050 --> 00:42:55,227 because I hadn't addressed certain things that needed to be addressed. 735 00:42:55,296 --> 00:42:58,886 And by not letting Amy rest by talking about her still. 736 00:42:58,955 --> 00:43:01,475 That was a big, big worry for me. 737 00:43:01,544 --> 00:43:05,168 I felt very held back because of her passing 738 00:43:05,237 --> 00:43:10,001 and I felt like I wasn't really able to say how I really felt. 739 00:43:10,070 --> 00:43:14,005 I feel more content speaking about her, 740 00:43:14,074 --> 00:43:17,871 and actually now, when I do think of her and when I have spoken about her, 741 00:43:17,974 --> 00:43:20,252 I think of positive things. 742 00:43:20,321 --> 00:43:25,119 Her legacy is so much more than just her music. 743 00:43:25,223 --> 00:43:28,640 Her image. Her wittiness. 744 00:43:29,848 --> 00:43:31,988 Her rudeness. [laughs] 745 00:43:32,092 --> 00:43:35,716 I think it's... it's a package thing. 746 00:43:35,785 --> 00:43:39,547 And I think if you were able to have experienced it... 747 00:43:41,342 --> 00:43:44,483 ...then you're lucky. You're very, very lucky. 748 00:43:44,587 --> 00:43:48,142 And I also think no one will ever be able to touch it. 749 00:43:48,211 --> 00:43:52,388 There'll only be one Amy. I know that for sure. 750 00:44:45,924 --> 00:44:46,131 . 64812

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