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00:01:40,265 Feldman: Carlo Gambino was, in 1973, 16 00:01:40,336 --> 00:01:43,836 the head of the Gambino crime family. 17 00:01:43,838 --> 00:01:48,938 His nephew was kidnapped and held for ransom. 18 00:01:48,940 --> 00:01:51,340 The ransom money was partly paid, 19 00:01:51,340 --> 00:01:53,640 but unfortunately for the nephew, 20 00:01:53,742 --> 00:01:58,182 the nephew was executed anyway. 21 00:01:58,242 --> 00:02:01,742 This, of course, didn't sit well with Carlo. 22 00:02:03,645 --> 00:02:07,145 Feldman: Vengeance is the order of the day in mob families, 23 00:02:07,146 --> 00:02:09,446 and so a contract was put out to go 24 00:02:09,547 --> 00:02:15,847 after and kill those responsible for killing his nephew. 25 00:02:15,849 --> 00:02:20,449 And that contract went out to, among others, John Gotti. 26 00:02:22,285 --> 00:02:24,845 Gabriel: John's introduction to the family, 27 00:02:24,853 --> 00:02:26,593 or his bona fides, 28 00:02:26,653 --> 00:02:29,753 were gained by participating in the murder of a guy 29 00:02:29,754 --> 00:02:32,394 by the name of James McBratney. 30 00:02:32,455 --> 00:02:35,755 McBratney was suspected of having kidnapped 31 00:02:35,757 --> 00:02:39,457 and killed the nephew of Gambino. 32 00:02:42,192 --> 00:02:45,362 McBratney: My dad was larger than life. 33 00:02:45,460 --> 00:02:46,990 As a little boy, I remember looking up 34 00:02:47,093 --> 00:02:50,863 and seeing how big he was, and he had tattoos all over. 35 00:02:50,862 --> 00:02:52,262 He was funny. 36 00:02:52,261 --> 00:02:55,001 He was loved by a lot of people. 37 00:02:55,097 --> 00:02:58,667 He had gotten caught up in doing some burglaries 38 00:02:58,764 --> 00:03:02,904 and he was sentenced to four years. 39 00:03:02,966 --> 00:03:06,866 When he was in prison, he made plans to kidnap gangsters 40 00:03:06,867 --> 00:03:08,367 and hold them for ransom 41 00:03:08,468 --> 00:03:11,968 because the wise guys wouldn't call the police. 42 00:03:11,969 --> 00:03:14,099 They would just pay. 43 00:03:14,203 --> 00:03:17,303 They put a contract out on my father, 44 00:03:17,370 --> 00:03:19,910 and I was told that my father was aware 45 00:03:19,972 --> 00:03:22,672 there was a contract out on his life. 46 00:03:22,673 --> 00:03:26,273 I met a guy who saw him, and he had told my father, 47 00:03:26,373 --> 00:03:27,773 "Why don't you just leave? 48 00:03:27,775 --> 00:03:29,875 Why don't you just get out of New York for a while?" 49 00:03:29,876 --> 00:03:31,206 And his answer was, "And what? 50 00:03:31,275 --> 00:03:33,105 Leave my children?" 51 00:03:34,810 --> 00:03:39,210 Therein lay the first substantial homicide case 52 00:03:39,278 --> 00:03:43,208 that Gotti got involved in. 53 00:03:43,279 --> 00:03:48,119 They found McBratney at a bar in Staten Island. 54 00:03:48,181 --> 00:03:53,681 Raab: It was Gotti, his pal Angelo Ruggiero, 55 00:03:53,684 --> 00:03:57,684 and a third person who they really didn't know too well. 56 00:03:57,685 --> 00:04:02,615 The three of them walked in pretending to be detectives. 57 00:04:02,687 --> 00:04:04,287 They shot a bullet into the ceiling 58 00:04:04,286 --> 00:04:07,186 to get everyone's attention. 59 00:04:07,188 --> 00:04:10,988 And they approached my father, 60 00:04:10,990 --> 00:04:14,120 and the gentleman who was sitting next to my father 61 00:04:14,190 --> 00:04:18,330 told me that Gotti grabbed one arm of my father, 62 00:04:18,391 --> 00:04:21,691 and they said, "We are taking you with us." 63 00:04:21,794 --> 00:04:24,234 My father wasn't going anywhere with anybody. 64 00:04:24,294 --> 00:04:27,594 The guy told me ... he said, "Your father dragged 65 00:04:27,595 --> 00:04:29,395 Gotti and Ruggiero down all the way 66 00:04:29,496 --> 00:04:33,196 to the back of the bar to the back room." 67 00:04:33,197 --> 00:04:36,397 He was getting out of their grip, 68 00:04:36,499 --> 00:04:38,699 and that's when they killed him. 69 00:04:43,234 --> 00:04:47,444 McBratney was dead on the barroom floor. 70 00:04:49,103 --> 00:04:51,743 When I first saw the photo, my heart stopped, 71 00:04:51,804 --> 00:04:53,404 my breathing stopped. 72 00:04:53,404 --> 00:04:55,714 I don't know anybody who could really see 73 00:04:55,706 --> 00:04:57,506 a picture of their father laying dead on the floor 74 00:04:57,506 --> 00:05:01,006 and not feel shock. 75 00:05:01,007 --> 00:05:04,237 The shoes that were on my father in the photo, 76 00:05:04,307 --> 00:05:06,137 I remembered loving those shoes. 77 00:05:06,242 --> 00:05:07,812 I couldn't wait to wear them. 78 00:05:07,810 --> 00:05:09,810 I wanted to be like him, 79 00:05:09,811 --> 00:05:13,711 like every kid wants to be like his father. 80 00:05:13,812 --> 00:05:18,712 There were three little kids and a wife and mother 81 00:05:18,714 --> 00:05:22,914 who were left so hurt, so broken. 82 00:05:22,915 --> 00:05:24,845 Did I want revenge? 83 00:05:24,916 --> 00:05:27,516 Absolutely, I wanted revenge. 84 00:05:29,850 --> 00:05:34,150 Raab: The three of them shot McBratney in front of dozens of witnesses 85 00:05:34,218 --> 00:05:36,818 who could identify them from rogues' galleries. 86 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,250 Sooner or later, Gotti knew the jig was going to be up. 87 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,760 Schumacher: This was not the smartest hit 88 00:05:42,822 --> 00:05:45,162 that John Gotti was ever involved in, 89 00:05:45,222 --> 00:05:46,762 because they weren't wearing masks. 90 00:05:46,823 --> 00:05:49,863 They weren't trying to hide their identities. 91 00:05:49,924 --> 00:05:53,964 And so it wasn't all that hard to find him once they knew 92 00:05:54,026 --> 00:05:57,426 he was involved in the murder. 93 00:05:57,426 --> 00:06:01,826 Gotti ultimately surrendered and, lo and behold, 94 00:06:01,828 --> 00:06:06,928 got one of the most expensive criminal lawyers in New York, 95 00:06:07,030 --> 00:06:09,930 a barrister by the name of Roy Cohn, 96 00:06:10,031 --> 00:06:13,271 who made his reputation as the chief counsel 97 00:06:13,331 --> 00:06:16,371 for Joe McCarthy in the notorious crack down 98 00:06:16,433 --> 00:06:19,673 on leftists in the 1950s. 99 00:06:19,735 --> 00:06:22,565 He had tremendous influence in New York city. 100 00:06:22,636 --> 00:06:25,466 He was involved in prosecuting the Rosenbergs, 101 00:06:25,537 --> 00:06:27,937 later represented Donald Trump. 102 00:06:28,038 --> 00:06:31,738 Roy Cohn arranged what can be described 103 00:06:31,739 --> 00:06:35,069 as an unbelievable sentence for Gotti. 104 00:06:35,173 --> 00:06:38,643 He eventually copped a plea to manslaughter and served, 105 00:06:38,642 --> 00:06:41,942 I believe, four years in state penitentiary. 106 00:06:45,077 --> 00:06:48,937 Destefano: After Gotti got out of prison for the McBratney killing, 107 00:06:48,945 --> 00:06:51,475 soon after that, he was inducted into Mafia, 108 00:06:51,546 --> 00:06:52,976 became a made member. 109 00:06:53,047 --> 00:06:56,877 And in that world, that's the Holy Grail. 110 00:06:56,948 --> 00:06:58,548 Feldman: Contrary to what many people think, 111 00:06:58,648 --> 00:07:01,848 not every person who was in the Mafia 112 00:07:01,849 --> 00:07:05,449 was considered a full-fledged member of the mob. 113 00:07:05,450 --> 00:07:06,750 In fact, most aren't. 114 00:07:06,751 --> 00:07:08,291 And very few people 115 00:07:08,351 --> 00:07:11,651 are selected to become made men. 116 00:07:11,753 --> 00:07:13,753 Being a made member of the Mafia 117 00:07:13,754 --> 00:07:19,064 was really everything that these guys aspired to. 118 00:07:19,156 --> 00:07:22,086 Gabriel: One of the things you have to do to be proposed as a made member 119 00:07:22,190 --> 00:07:23,660 and actually be inducted is, 120 00:07:23,657 --> 00:07:25,357 you have to participate in a murder. 121 00:07:25,457 --> 00:07:27,787 They want to check your loyalty. 122 00:07:27,859 --> 00:07:30,959 Papa: That earns you merit in organized crime. 123 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,760 You show that you have the courage 124 00:07:33,761 --> 00:07:35,661 or the temerity to do it. 125 00:07:35,761 --> 00:07:37,861 Making your bones basically means 126 00:07:37,962 --> 00:07:41,062 that you're proving you're bona fide. 127 00:07:41,163 --> 00:07:44,763 Gotti made his bones by killing my father. 128 00:07:47,299 --> 00:07:49,459 Destefano: The induction ceremony is a meeting 129 00:07:49,465 --> 00:07:51,765 with other crime-family members, 130 00:07:51,867 --> 00:07:55,867 where you're basically sworn loyalty to the life. 131 00:07:55,969 --> 00:08:00,369 Fingers were pricked to show that you would give your blood. 132 00:08:00,369 --> 00:08:02,299 And they burned a picture of a saint in your hand 133 00:08:02,370 --> 00:08:04,100 with the admonition that if you betray 134 00:08:04,205 --> 00:08:05,765 the brotherhood of the crime family, 135 00:08:05,872 --> 00:08:08,712 you will burn as the saint is doing. 136 00:08:08,773 --> 00:08:11,313 Schumacher: In other words, this is going to be your life, 137 00:08:11,373 --> 00:08:14,973 and you are going to follow the principles of the Mafia 138 00:08:14,975 --> 00:08:16,605 throughout your life up to 139 00:08:16,676 --> 00:08:19,876 and including a complete loyalty to the mob, 140 00:08:19,877 --> 00:08:22,907 even above your own family. 141 00:08:22,978 --> 00:08:26,208 Destefano: And Gotti wanted nothing more than to be a gangster. 142 00:08:26,278 --> 00:08:29,478 That really is a signature moment. 143 00:08:31,380 --> 00:08:34,480 Schumacher: So, a Mafia family has a structure. 144 00:08:34,481 --> 00:08:36,621 You have the boss, of course, at the top. 145 00:08:36,683 --> 00:08:39,083 Right below the boss is the underboss. 146 00:08:39,083 --> 00:08:42,323 And underneath the underboss, there's a series of capos, 147 00:08:42,384 --> 00:08:46,494 or captains, who are really like crew chiefs. 148 00:08:46,586 --> 00:08:48,886 After Gotti became a made man, 149 00:08:48,887 --> 00:08:53,817 he became the captain of a crew based in Queens. 150 00:08:53,889 --> 00:08:57,519 Morrill: From the moment that John came on the scene, you could see, 151 00:08:57,590 --> 00:08:59,790 in the way he walked, the way he held himself, 152 00:08:59,891 --> 00:09:01,531 the way he carried himself, 153 00:09:01,591 --> 00:09:05,491 he had a very strong opinion of himself. 154 00:09:05,492 --> 00:09:09,332 He had the knowledge and understanding 155 00:09:09,393 --> 00:09:12,603 that he could do anything he wanted to do 156 00:09:12,596 --> 00:09:15,726 without anyone coming back at him. 157 00:09:15,796 --> 00:09:18,996 Destefano: Gotti, particularly as a capo and ruler, 158 00:09:19,098 --> 00:09:24,428 could be very demanding, very brutal, very threatening. 159 00:09:24,498 --> 00:09:26,398 Cardinale: If he was not happy, he was not shy 160 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:28,099 about letting people know about it. 161 00:09:28,201 --> 00:09:30,101 It was almost a storm front if he was mad. 162 00:09:30,202 --> 00:09:34,002 You did not want to get inside that front. 163 00:09:34,003 --> 00:09:36,203 There were times that you would see him, 164 00:09:36,204 --> 00:09:39,814 and he would be adamantly pointing fingers into the chest 165 00:09:39,905 --> 00:09:42,635 of some other member of the crew 166 00:09:42,706 --> 00:09:45,336 so that they should follow his orders 167 00:09:45,406 --> 00:09:48,406 or they would suffer the consequences. 168 00:09:48,407 --> 00:09:52,007 They heard him often berating people who made 169 00:09:52,109 --> 00:09:54,809 what he considered the slightest insult. 170 00:10:03,713 --> 00:10:06,053 And if you weren't convinced by that, 171 00:10:06,114 --> 00:10:08,514 you probably weren't going to survive. 172 00:10:08,514 --> 00:10:14,754 ♪♪ 173 00:10:17,718 --> 00:10:20,848 To understand the Mafia, it's important to know 174 00:10:20,919 --> 00:10:22,719 its roots in America. 175 00:10:24,354 --> 00:10:28,024 Schumacher: In the late 1800s and in the early 1900s, 176 00:10:28,122 --> 00:10:33,022 the United States saw just a massive immigration of Italians, 177 00:10:33,024 --> 00:10:35,824 and especially Italians from Sicily. 178 00:10:35,824 --> 00:10:37,134 And they were really 179 00:10:37,225 --> 00:10:39,415 almost immediately discriminated against. 180 00:10:39,425 --> 00:10:42,725 They were treated as second-class citizens. 181 00:10:42,827 --> 00:10:46,827 A large majority of individuals would say, "You know what? 182 00:10:46,829 --> 00:10:48,429 We're gonna work hard. 183 00:10:48,528 --> 00:10:51,458 We're gonna just do our best to achieve the American dream." 184 00:10:51,529 --> 00:10:55,329 However, there was certainly a percentage of immigrants 185 00:10:55,330 --> 00:10:56,630 who said, "You know what? 186 00:10:56,732 --> 00:10:58,872 We need a shortcut." 187 00:10:58,932 --> 00:11:01,772 And formed into gangs. 188 00:11:01,834 --> 00:11:05,974 But the street gangs were not particularly well-organized. 189 00:11:06,035 --> 00:11:09,035 There was this notion that things could be better. 190 00:11:09,036 --> 00:11:13,866 And no one saw that more clearly than Charles "Lucky" Luciano. 191 00:11:15,838 --> 00:11:21,368 Raab: Prohibition occurred, and to run an important bootlegging ring, 192 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,170 you had to become almost an executive. 193 00:11:23,274 --> 00:11:26,544 You had to import or manufacture booze and beer. 194 00:11:26,642 --> 00:11:29,582 You had to have a sophisticated trucking system, 195 00:11:29,643 --> 00:11:30,843 delivery system. 196 00:11:30,944 --> 00:11:33,384 So they became big. 197 00:11:33,444 --> 00:11:35,944 But the Italian-Americans were fighting with each other 198 00:11:35,945 --> 00:11:39,045 for territory, killing each other. 199 00:11:39,047 --> 00:11:42,147 There were gang wars. 200 00:11:42,248 --> 00:11:45,178 Luciano saw that this was no good for business 201 00:11:45,282 --> 00:11:48,982 and that the only solution was some kind of setup 202 00:11:49,050 --> 00:11:51,750 where it would be more profitable, 203 00:11:51,751 --> 00:11:54,051 at the same time, less dangerous. 204 00:11:54,052 --> 00:11:57,752 Schumacher: So he created something called the commission, 205 00:11:57,853 --> 00:12:00,553 and the commission was like a board of directors 206 00:12:00,553 --> 00:12:02,763 for the national crime syndicate. 207 00:12:02,855 --> 00:12:06,655 Raab: He organized some 20-odd families throughout the country, 208 00:12:06,656 --> 00:12:10,156 the commission, to resolve all major disputes. 209 00:12:10,157 --> 00:12:13,387 In addition to that, it actually wrote a constitution, 210 00:12:13,457 --> 00:12:17,157 dos and don'ts, how you could become a made guy, 211 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,390 how you were supposed to conduct yourself, 212 00:12:19,459 --> 00:12:22,089 all sorts of rules and regulations, 213 00:12:22,162 --> 00:12:25,162 and that you could never be disloyal to the organization. 214 00:12:25,263 --> 00:12:30,663 Omerta ... never cooperate, never talk with law enforcement. 215 00:12:30,665 --> 00:12:34,595 It's really kind of this whole structured environment. 216 00:12:36,700 --> 00:12:41,170 Feldman: Cosa nostra is what most Americans refer to as the Mafia. 217 00:12:41,168 --> 00:12:43,568 The literal translation is "our thing." 218 00:12:43,669 --> 00:12:46,169 And it is a kind of umbrella title 219 00:12:46,270 --> 00:12:50,370 that encompasses many different mob families. 220 00:12:50,370 --> 00:12:54,970 The mob scene in the 1970s and 1980s in New York City 221 00:12:54,973 --> 00:12:58,673 revolved around the five classic Mafia families. 222 00:12:58,674 --> 00:13:01,714 They were the Genovese, Gambino, 223 00:13:01,775 --> 00:13:06,805 Lucchese, Bonanno, and Colombo crime families. 224 00:13:06,877 --> 00:13:09,307 Feldman: The Gambino family, which was the family 225 00:13:09,411 --> 00:13:12,781 that John Gotti ultimately ended up heading, 226 00:13:12,779 --> 00:13:15,979 was at one time considered the most powerful 227 00:13:15,981 --> 00:13:19,481 of the five Mafia families in New York city. 228 00:13:19,581 --> 00:13:22,321 It was powerful because it had its tentacles 229 00:13:22,382 --> 00:13:23,882 in many different areas, 230 00:13:23,983 --> 00:13:28,323 from construction to airport operations. 231 00:13:28,384 --> 00:13:30,324 Cardinale: There was nothing, according to the government, 232 00:13:30,385 --> 00:13:32,315 that was built that involved concrete 233 00:13:32,419 --> 00:13:37,489 that they didn't have some involvement and made money from. 234 00:13:37,487 --> 00:13:40,987 Gabriel: Organized crime and the Mafia families survived 235 00:13:40,989 --> 00:13:44,519 by the revenue that they can generate, basically, 236 00:13:44,590 --> 00:13:46,220 from criminal conduct. 237 00:13:46,324 --> 00:13:47,624 They were bookmakers. 238 00:13:47,692 --> 00:13:49,192 They were loan sharks. 239 00:13:49,192 --> 00:13:52,992 They were extorting businesses for protection money. 240 00:13:52,993 --> 00:13:56,993 You'd go into a restaurant or a store in your neighborhood 241 00:13:56,995 --> 00:13:59,095 and warn them something might happen 242 00:13:59,096 --> 00:14:01,486 unless they paid you some fees. 243 00:14:01,495 --> 00:14:03,495 "I'm going to protect you or I'm going to beat you up. 244 00:14:03,496 --> 00:14:04,826 Which one are you going to pick?" 245 00:14:04,898 --> 00:14:06,798 These threats often were very effective. 246 00:14:06,898 --> 00:14:10,498 If you knew that something bad could happen to you, 247 00:14:10,599 --> 00:14:12,729 you would find a way to pay. 248 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,340 The threat of actually being killed 249 00:14:16,434 --> 00:14:19,444 is something that was very real at that time. 250 00:14:21,303 --> 00:14:26,013 By definition, you cannot be the head of a mob family 251 00:14:26,105 --> 00:14:29,235 without being feared both by the public 252 00:14:29,339 --> 00:14:30,809 and, more importantly, I suppose, 253 00:14:30,907 --> 00:14:34,337 by the people who work for you in that family. 254 00:14:34,407 --> 00:14:36,837 They're dangerous, ruthless people. 255 00:14:36,909 --> 00:14:40,809 Killing is in their fabric. 256 00:14:40,810 --> 00:14:44,440 When you're doing street crimes and robberies and hijackings, 257 00:14:44,510 --> 00:14:46,110 you need tough guys. 258 00:14:46,112 --> 00:14:48,812 John Gotti had a reputation of being a tough guy. 259 00:14:48,813 --> 00:14:50,553 So somebody steps out of line, 260 00:14:50,613 --> 00:14:52,653 you need folks who can enforce it. 261 00:14:52,714 --> 00:14:55,814 John Gotti and his crew were enforcers. 262 00:14:55,815 --> 00:14:59,115 Whether it was as simple as giving somebody a beating 263 00:14:59,117 --> 00:15:00,817 or escalating it all the way up 264 00:15:00,917 --> 00:15:04,817 to actually having to take a life, 265 00:15:04,919 --> 00:15:09,349 he was known as a reliable person that can do that. 266 00:15:09,453 --> 00:15:11,353 Feldman: John Gotti rose through the ranks 267 00:15:11,454 --> 00:15:14,224 by things like loan-sharking. 268 00:15:14,222 --> 00:15:16,562 Schumacher: Loan-sharking is the notion of giving out loans 269 00:15:16,622 --> 00:15:19,462 to someone who needs money fast, who needs cash, 270 00:15:19,522 --> 00:15:22,122 and they're expected to be paid back quickly. 271 00:15:22,225 --> 00:15:23,715 In the case of Gotti's crew, 272 00:15:23,725 --> 00:15:26,925 they were extremely effective at getting their money. 273 00:15:26,926 --> 00:15:28,426 And if they didn't get their money, 274 00:15:28,426 --> 00:15:30,726 people knew what the consequences were. 275 00:15:30,827 --> 00:15:35,357 Gotti and his enforcers could be very ruthless. 276 00:15:35,428 --> 00:15:42,028 One of the main methods of organized crime to gain funds 277 00:15:42,032 --> 00:15:44,132 was hijacking. 278 00:15:44,233 --> 00:15:48,133 By the time the early-to-mid-'70s came along, 279 00:15:48,234 --> 00:15:51,934 he would actually go out on hijackings. 280 00:15:51,935 --> 00:15:54,625 Destefano: The trucks would come off of the JFK area. 281 00:15:54,635 --> 00:15:57,135 They'd be pulled over by a couple of cars 282 00:15:57,137 --> 00:15:58,467 that blocked their way. 283 00:15:58,536 --> 00:16:00,066 The hijackers would go up. 284 00:16:00,138 --> 00:16:02,738 They would tell the driver, "Listen, give us the truck. 285 00:16:02,839 --> 00:16:05,569 And by the way, from your license, we know who you are, 286 00:16:05,639 --> 00:16:08,469 so don't go running to the cops." 287 00:16:08,540 --> 00:16:12,040 You got goods that you could fence. 288 00:16:12,042 --> 00:16:14,542 Destefano: And that's how John got his footing 289 00:16:14,542 --> 00:16:16,642 into the organized-crime arena. 290 00:16:16,743 --> 00:16:22,983 ♪♪ 291 00:16:27,148 --> 00:16:29,748 Woman: Mrs. Gotti was extremely nice and polite 292 00:16:29,848 --> 00:16:32,848 as she refused our request for an interview, 293 00:16:32,850 --> 00:16:35,480 saying her husband had joked he'd take her to the dentist 294 00:16:35,549 --> 00:16:36,849 and have her mouth glued shut 295 00:16:36,951 --> 00:16:39,951 if she did any more talking to the press. 296 00:16:42,953 --> 00:16:47,863 Gotti got married fairly early, when he was 22, to Victoria. 297 00:16:47,954 --> 00:16:53,864 Victoria Digiorgio was a very striking dark-haired woman. 298 00:16:53,957 --> 00:16:56,387 Papa: But they had a rough time. 299 00:16:56,491 --> 00:17:00,761 I think he maybe wasn't the easiest person to deal with. 300 00:17:00,759 --> 00:17:02,689 Raab: First of all, he was fooling around a lot 301 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,960 with other women, which she knew. 302 00:17:04,961 --> 00:17:07,701 He would disappear for days. 303 00:17:07,761 --> 00:17:10,061 Destefano: In the early days, they didn't have much money, 304 00:17:10,162 --> 00:17:11,862 and the story was that, at one point, 305 00:17:11,963 --> 00:17:13,963 Gotti sneaked Victoria 306 00:17:13,964 --> 00:17:15,864 and one of their children out of the hospital 307 00:17:15,964 --> 00:17:17,664 because he couldn't pay the bill. 308 00:17:17,664 --> 00:17:22,574 Mom is, in a nutshell, to sum up ... 309 00:17:22,666 --> 00:17:25,966 she's an old-fashioned woman, very traditional, 310 00:17:25,968 --> 00:17:30,598 raised with the belief that her children, her husband, 311 00:17:30,668 --> 00:17:35,698 her home is the most important thing, in that order. 312 00:17:35,771 --> 00:17:39,511 Papa: John Gotti and his family lived in Howard Beach, Queens. 313 00:17:39,572 --> 00:17:43,312 It was not some big, flashy house, McMansion. 314 00:17:43,407 --> 00:17:46,167 It was a modest home right on the block. 315 00:17:46,175 --> 00:17:50,975 And that's where he lived for many, many years. 316 00:17:50,976 --> 00:17:55,506 Gotti had five children ... three boys and two daughters. 317 00:17:55,577 --> 00:17:58,577 King: What was it like growing up a Gotti? 318 00:17:58,578 --> 00:18:01,178 Victoria: Growing up a Gotti. 319 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:05,180 It was regimented, warm. 320 00:18:05,182 --> 00:18:10,482 We were ... I think early on, it was instilled in all of us 321 00:18:10,483 --> 00:18:12,983 that we were a close-knit family. 322 00:18:13,085 --> 00:18:15,575 We had to remain a close-knit family. 323 00:18:15,684 --> 00:18:23,194 And I think that, growing up, my dad executed the values 324 00:18:23,188 --> 00:18:27,188 and the morals that he wanted us to take through life. 325 00:18:27,289 --> 00:18:29,389 Cardinale: His sons and his two daughters were a big, 326 00:18:29,390 --> 00:18:30,890 big, big part of his life. 327 00:18:30,991 --> 00:18:34,591 You could tell that just whenever he spoke about them. 328 00:18:34,591 --> 00:18:36,431 Papa: He was very close to his kids. 329 00:18:36,492 --> 00:18:38,232 He loved them. 330 00:18:38,293 --> 00:18:40,433 I think he wanted to be protective 331 00:18:40,527 --> 00:18:43,587 and he wanted to do what he could for them. 332 00:18:43,594 --> 00:18:45,934 Destefano: And therein, of course, lay the route 333 00:18:45,996 --> 00:18:48,426 to one of the tragedies in their life. 334 00:18:48,997 --> 00:18:54,097 ♪♪ 335 00:18:54,199 --> 00:18:57,399 Raab: Gotti's youngest son, frank, of course, 336 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,430 grew up in Howard Beach. 337 00:18:59,499 --> 00:19:02,039 Frankie, who was kind of the apple of his eye, 338 00:19:02,101 --> 00:19:07,141 had a minibike, a small, miniature motorcycle. 339 00:19:07,203 --> 00:19:11,603 And he drove it out in the street one day between cars 340 00:19:11,704 --> 00:19:14,414 and he was hit. 341 00:19:16,339 --> 00:19:19,209 Papa: And the young boy died. 342 00:19:19,308 --> 00:19:23,008 The Howard Beach driver who struck and killed 343 00:19:23,009 --> 00:19:26,809 little Frankie was John Favara, 344 00:19:26,910 --> 00:19:28,210 and he was a person from the neighborhood. 345 00:19:28,311 --> 00:19:29,611 He lived not far from the Gottis, 346 00:19:29,710 --> 00:19:31,910 probably a few houses away. 347 00:19:32,012 --> 00:19:35,312 And that, of course, sent Gotti, his wife, and his whole family 348 00:19:35,413 --> 00:19:39,313 into a tailspin of depression and grief. 349 00:19:39,415 --> 00:19:42,845 Papa: Police, at the time, investigated and they determined 350 00:19:42,916 --> 00:19:44,816 that this was an accident. 351 00:19:44,816 --> 00:19:49,046 The man who ran over and killed John Gotti's son, 352 00:19:49,118 --> 00:19:54,548 at one point, went to apologize to John Gotti and his wife. 353 00:19:54,619 --> 00:19:59,449 I think Victoria Gotti felt that he didn't show enough remorse, 354 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,620 and she did not forgive him. 355 00:20:01,721 --> 00:20:05,461 And there's a story that she went after him with a bat. 356 00:20:05,523 --> 00:20:07,823 Favara knew who he was dealing with, 357 00:20:07,824 --> 00:20:10,464 and I'm sure he was frightened. 358 00:20:12,926 --> 00:20:16,356 John Favara was kidnapped from his place of business 359 00:20:16,461 --> 00:20:19,561 out on Long Island by a group of men. 360 00:20:19,627 --> 00:20:23,327 A few weeks after, a few months, the guy disappeared. 361 00:20:23,330 --> 00:20:26,460 Eyewitnesses claimed they saw him being hit over the head 362 00:20:26,530 --> 00:20:30,170 and put into the back of a car. 363 00:20:30,233 --> 00:20:33,133 Favara was never seen again. 364 00:20:33,133 --> 00:20:36,843 Destefano: The story that we subsequently were able to piece together 365 00:20:36,934 --> 00:20:41,774 was that Favara was killed and that his body, 366 00:20:41,836 --> 00:20:43,966 according to court records, 367 00:20:44,037 --> 00:20:49,867 was dissolved in acid in a junkyard in East New York. 368 00:20:49,939 --> 00:20:53,339 Gotti, as I recall, at the time, had an alibi. 369 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,480 He said he was away in Florida when that happened. 370 00:20:57,575 --> 00:21:00,635 Schumacher: I think there's no question that the disappearance 371 00:21:00,742 --> 00:21:03,742 of John Favara sent a message to the community 372 00:21:03,844 --> 00:21:05,784 that Gotti was someone to be reckoned with. 373 00:21:05,845 --> 00:21:10,545 ♪♪ 374 00:21:10,546 --> 00:21:15,376 For somebody to just disappear off the face of the earth, 375 00:21:15,481 --> 00:21:17,481 never to be seen again, 376 00:21:17,582 --> 00:21:21,252 that had to send a chill through the neighborhood. 377 00:21:21,250 --> 00:21:23,280 He meant business. 378 00:21:23,351 --> 00:21:27,851 That's where he comes across as scary. 379 00:21:27,952 --> 00:21:30,052 Who was going to mess with that? 380 00:21:30,053 --> 00:21:32,453 Woman: Of such stories, legends are born, 381 00:21:32,454 --> 00:21:34,794 and John Gotti lives up to his. 382 00:21:34,855 --> 00:21:41,255 ♪♪ 383 00:21:43,258 --> 00:21:48,288 ♪♪ 384 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,859 Welcome back to "Very Scary People." 385 00:21:50,961 --> 00:21:54,301 By the late 1970s, John Gotti was working his way up 386 00:21:54,362 --> 00:21:56,902 the ranks of the Gambino crime family 387 00:21:56,963 --> 00:21:59,803 as a solid earner and vicious capo, 388 00:21:59,864 --> 00:22:04,164 determined to not let anything or anyone stand in his way. 389 00:22:04,165 --> 00:22:05,865 Soon, he would become the boss 390 00:22:05,866 --> 00:22:08,866 of a multi-million-dollar criminal operation. 391 00:22:08,867 --> 00:22:12,497 For Gotti, it all started in the boogie-down Bronx. 392 00:22:12,601 --> 00:22:16,571 ♪♪ 393 00:22:16,569 --> 00:22:19,469 Feldman: John Gotti was born on the 27th of October 394 00:22:19,471 --> 00:22:21,471 in 1940 in the South Bronx. 395 00:22:21,471 --> 00:22:23,511 His grandparents came over from, 396 00:22:23,571 --> 00:22:25,771 as they used to say, "the old country". 397 00:22:25,873 --> 00:22:29,613 He had a troubled childhood. 398 00:22:29,673 --> 00:22:32,373 Raab: His father was a laborer who earned almost nothing. 399 00:22:32,375 --> 00:22:36,875 He had 12 siblings, big family, and his poor father 400 00:22:36,877 --> 00:22:39,707 really couldn't provide for all of them. 401 00:22:39,776 --> 00:22:43,276 Gotti grew up in a very haggard type of way. 402 00:22:43,279 --> 00:22:44,609 He was embarrassed. 403 00:22:44,678 --> 00:22:46,708 He claimed later that when he went to school, 404 00:22:46,779 --> 00:22:50,309 he was wearing different shoes on each foot. 405 00:22:50,382 --> 00:22:51,822 His clothes were ragged. 406 00:22:51,882 --> 00:22:54,282 The other kids made fun of him. 407 00:22:54,283 --> 00:22:57,123 That's when he learned to use his fast fists, 408 00:22:57,184 --> 00:22:59,324 because he had to fight his way 409 00:22:59,385 --> 00:23:02,885 to get any kind of recognition and respect. 410 00:23:02,986 --> 00:23:05,886 Things improved for him when he was just in his teens, 411 00:23:05,887 --> 00:23:08,617 when his father and his mother 412 00:23:08,687 --> 00:23:11,517 moved to East New York in Brooklyn. 413 00:23:11,622 --> 00:23:14,492 If you wanted to exist in your neighborhood 414 00:23:14,490 --> 00:23:15,690 and show your machismo, 415 00:23:15,789 --> 00:23:18,219 you had to be part of a street gang. 416 00:23:18,291 --> 00:23:20,091 He didn't have much of an education, 417 00:23:20,192 --> 00:23:25,092 but he was smart and and he knew how to hustle. 418 00:23:25,194 --> 00:23:28,934 So got involved with people on the street. 419 00:23:28,995 --> 00:23:31,725 Raab: In one situation, he was doing a theft. 420 00:23:31,795 --> 00:23:35,625 He broke into a construction area in the neighborhood 421 00:23:35,696 --> 00:23:39,126 and he dropped a heavy piece of equipment on his foot. 422 00:23:39,198 --> 00:23:41,998 And he actually broke one of his toes, 423 00:23:42,099 --> 00:23:44,929 which gave him a limp for the rest of his life. 424 00:23:45,001 --> 00:23:47,001 Some people thought it was a swagger, 425 00:23:47,101 --> 00:23:50,641 but he obtained it by fouling up on a simple crime. 426 00:23:52,802 --> 00:23:56,402 Mafia bosses and their lieutenants in the neighborhoods 427 00:23:56,405 --> 00:24:01,105 were always on the lookout for possible recruits, 428 00:24:01,106 --> 00:24:04,306 people who were hard and tough and would carry out orders. 429 00:24:04,307 --> 00:24:06,907 And he shined in those aspects. 430 00:24:07,008 --> 00:24:08,408 There's a certain level of respect 431 00:24:08,508 --> 00:24:12,408 that he wanted perhaps that, in his life, 432 00:24:12,410 --> 00:24:15,110 he wasn't really getting it anywhere else. 433 00:24:15,211 --> 00:24:18,951 Here were these guys driving around in flashy cars, 434 00:24:19,012 --> 00:24:22,212 hanging around these clubs, attracting women. 435 00:24:22,313 --> 00:24:26,013 The only chance he had, in his viewpoint, 436 00:24:26,015 --> 00:24:28,115 for success was crime. 437 00:24:28,216 --> 00:24:33,216 ♪♪ 438 00:24:33,217 --> 00:24:36,317 Gotti, in his teens and early 20s, 439 00:24:36,319 --> 00:24:38,019 was part of a crew that was part 440 00:24:38,019 --> 00:24:42,219 of the Gambino crime family in East New York. 441 00:24:42,321 --> 00:24:46,561 And Gambino's second-in-command was a man by the name 442 00:24:46,655 --> 00:24:51,955 of Aniello Dellacroce, better known as "Neil." 443 00:24:52,024 --> 00:24:55,664 Cardinale: Aniello Dellacroce was a very powerful individual 444 00:24:55,724 --> 00:24:57,534 within the Gambino family. 445 00:24:57,526 --> 00:25:00,626 Gabriel: John gets himself fairly close to Neil, 446 00:25:00,626 --> 00:25:03,726 and Neil takes a strong liking to John. 447 00:25:03,727 --> 00:25:05,027 Raab: Dellacroce liked him. 448 00:25:05,129 --> 00:25:07,459 He saw him as a chip off his own block. 449 00:25:07,563 --> 00:25:10,033 Respected the activity that John did, 450 00:25:10,030 --> 00:25:12,660 respected the loyalty that John showed, 451 00:25:12,730 --> 00:25:14,670 and respected the chutzpah that John had. 452 00:25:14,731 --> 00:25:18,431 So they create a very, very close bond. 453 00:25:23,068 --> 00:25:26,138 Papa: In 1976, Carlo Gambino, 454 00:25:26,136 --> 00:25:29,066 the revered boss of the Gambino crime family 455 00:25:29,137 --> 00:25:32,267 and the namesake of the family, passes away. 456 00:25:32,338 --> 00:25:34,138 So who is the successor? 457 00:25:34,139 --> 00:25:37,469 Gabriel: Gambino, rather than taking Neil Dellacroce, 458 00:25:37,573 --> 00:25:41,743 who the whole Gambino family respected and revered, 459 00:25:41,841 --> 00:25:45,441 he names his cousin, Paul Castellano, 460 00:25:45,442 --> 00:25:47,442 the next boss of the family. 461 00:25:47,443 --> 00:25:50,143 That just turned everybody's stomach. 462 00:25:50,244 --> 00:25:53,454 Inside of the Gambino crime family, 463 00:25:53,446 --> 00:25:55,476 there were several factions. 464 00:25:55,579 --> 00:25:59,449 John, being in the Dellacroce faction, 465 00:25:59,448 --> 00:26:02,078 sort of looked at Paul Castellano 466 00:26:02,149 --> 00:26:03,579 as a weak leader. 467 00:26:03,648 --> 00:26:05,748 Raab: They thought he was too remote. 468 00:26:05,749 --> 00:26:07,079 He didn't like them. 469 00:26:07,150 --> 00:26:09,250 He never visited their clubs. 470 00:26:09,351 --> 00:26:11,651 And all he wanted was their dough. 471 00:26:11,651 --> 00:26:13,891 Gotti and some of the people that Gotti surrounded 472 00:26:13,952 --> 00:26:17,252 himself with felt that Paul Castellano 473 00:26:17,254 --> 00:26:20,894 was not the legitimate head of the family. 474 00:26:20,955 --> 00:26:23,285 Gotti felt that Aniello Dellacroce 475 00:26:23,356 --> 00:26:25,456 should have been the rightful heir 476 00:26:25,557 --> 00:26:27,357 to the Gambino crime family. 477 00:26:27,457 --> 00:26:31,687 So that created this long source of resentment 478 00:26:31,758 --> 00:26:36,558 between Gotti's people and Castellano and his tribe. 479 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,900 Schumacher: At the same time, Gotti thinks that he can become 480 00:26:39,962 --> 00:26:42,962 the boss of the Gambino crime family. 481 00:26:42,963 --> 00:26:45,003 Gabriel: Dellacroce had that ability 482 00:26:45,064 --> 00:26:48,164 to keep the Gottis of the world in check. 483 00:26:48,265 --> 00:26:49,555 He was the buffer. 484 00:26:49,565 --> 00:26:53,295 But when Dellacroce died, then all bets are off. 485 00:26:53,366 --> 00:27:01,066 ♪♪ 486 00:27:03,869 --> 00:27:05,769 Cardinale: John Gotti ... he would make an impression 487 00:27:05,770 --> 00:27:07,000 on anybody that saw him. 488 00:27:07,071 --> 00:27:08,411 He had a certain aura that, 489 00:27:08,472 --> 00:27:10,812 if he walked in the room, you would notice him. 490 00:27:10,871 --> 00:27:13,671 He was somebody that would turn heads 491 00:27:13,673 --> 00:27:17,313 just because of the way he carried himself. 492 00:27:17,375 --> 00:27:19,975 Had a very commanding presence. Let's put it that way. 493 00:27:22,176 --> 00:27:27,076 Destefano: Angelo Ruggiero was one of the core members of the crew 494 00:27:27,078 --> 00:27:29,378 that Gotti was a member of. 495 00:27:29,479 --> 00:27:33,079 Papa: Ruggiero was one of Gotti's best friends. 496 00:27:33,180 --> 00:27:34,210 They grew up together. 497 00:27:34,281 --> 00:27:35,881 They were in gangs together. 498 00:27:35,981 --> 00:27:37,881 They were very, very close. 499 00:27:37,982 --> 00:27:41,882 A big crisis came in 1985. 500 00:27:41,983 --> 00:27:45,823 Cardinale: Angelo Ruggiero, John Gotti's brother Gene, 501 00:27:45,884 --> 00:27:48,024 and a third defendant were charged 502 00:27:48,086 --> 00:27:50,586 in a racketeering case that involved drugs. 503 00:27:50,586 --> 00:27:54,186 The trouble that Ruggiero got into was he had a big mouth. 504 00:27:54,187 --> 00:27:56,987 Papa: His nickname was "Quack Quack," 505 00:27:56,989 --> 00:27:59,489 because they say he liked to talk a lot. 506 00:27:59,589 --> 00:28:04,489 One of the major pieces of evidence against him was a tape. 507 00:28:04,591 --> 00:28:06,231 His house had been bugged. 508 00:28:06,292 --> 00:28:10,092 He's caught on tape speaking about heroin buys, 509 00:28:10,193 --> 00:28:15,003 and this was forbidden by Paul Castellano. 510 00:28:15,095 --> 00:28:17,095 The Gambino crime family, at the time, 511 00:28:17,196 --> 00:28:20,096 was into a lot of illegal activities, 512 00:28:20,197 --> 00:28:23,727 but he did not want to be involved in drugs. 513 00:28:23,797 --> 00:28:26,627 A lot of people thought the Mafia was involved 514 00:28:26,698 --> 00:28:27,998 in all kinds of drug deals, 515 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,400 and the fact is, historically, they weren't 516 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,000 because it brought on too much heat. 517 00:28:33,001 --> 00:28:35,241 Gabriel: Castellano becomes irate. 518 00:28:35,302 --> 00:28:38,042 He's also now got to deal with wise guys 519 00:28:38,103 --> 00:28:40,203 and bosses from other families, 520 00:28:40,304 --> 00:28:42,644 who are now putting pressure on him, 521 00:28:42,738 --> 00:28:47,008 basically saying, "Hey, your guy got us in this mess." 522 00:28:47,106 --> 00:28:50,606 So now Castellano's got reason to put pressure on. 523 00:28:50,607 --> 00:28:53,007 "I need to know what's on those bugs. 524 00:28:53,008 --> 00:28:55,338 I hear you guys were dealing babanya, 525 00:28:55,409 --> 00:28:58,409 and if that's true, we've got a problem." 526 00:28:58,510 --> 00:29:03,310 Castellano wanted to get copies of all of the tape recordings 527 00:29:03,312 --> 00:29:06,212 from Angelo Ruggiero's case. 528 00:29:06,313 --> 00:29:09,213 Gotti knew that the Castellano tapes 529 00:29:09,214 --> 00:29:12,754 was a probable death sentence for him, 530 00:29:12,814 --> 00:29:14,554 because it was his crew. 531 00:29:14,649 --> 00:29:18,219 This would give Castellano an excuse to kill all of them. 532 00:29:18,317 --> 00:29:22,717 ♪♪ 533 00:29:22,718 --> 00:29:26,218 Gabriel: The summer of '85, 534 00:29:26,220 --> 00:29:30,420 we got a bug in Neil Dellacroce's house. 535 00:29:30,521 --> 00:29:34,021 Neil was sick. He's dying of cancer. 536 00:29:34,122 --> 00:29:37,762 And John and Angelo were going there frequently. 537 00:29:37,823 --> 00:29:41,433 One of the visits we capture on tape. 538 00:30:01,132 --> 00:30:05,132 Dellacroce realized, "I can't keep Castellano at bay forever." 539 00:30:05,133 --> 00:30:07,773 You're going to have to show him what's on the tape. 540 00:30:31,776 --> 00:30:37,446 So it's clear that this issue is very flammable. 541 00:30:37,545 --> 00:30:40,675 There was a lot of friction, and, at some point, 542 00:30:40,745 --> 00:30:42,245 things were going to come to a head. 543 00:30:42,246 --> 00:30:47,746 ♪♪ 544 00:30:47,747 --> 00:30:53,177 Destefano: December of 1985, Dellacroce passes away from cancer. 545 00:30:53,250 --> 00:30:59,050 That removed the one sort of buffer 546 00:30:59,052 --> 00:31:00,552 that was keeping the crime family 547 00:31:00,553 --> 00:31:04,993 from spinning out of control and devolving into a war. 548 00:31:05,054 --> 00:31:06,754 Gabriel: John read the tea leaves, knew his life 549 00:31:06,754 --> 00:31:09,794 was in jeopardy, feared for his crew. 550 00:31:09,855 --> 00:31:12,985 Papa: He had to decide where his loyalties were, 551 00:31:13,057 --> 00:31:16,587 and they certainly were not with Paul Castellano. 552 00:31:16,692 --> 00:31:18,862 Destefano: Castellano, if he wanted to, 553 00:31:18,858 --> 00:31:20,988 could have him killed for the drug-dealing stuff 554 00:31:21,060 --> 00:31:22,260 that was going on. 555 00:31:22,260 --> 00:31:25,860 Gotti realized, "I have to move quickly. 556 00:31:25,860 --> 00:31:27,960 Castellano's suspicious of me. 557 00:31:27,961 --> 00:31:31,701 He's suspicious of the crew and the drug situation. 558 00:31:31,763 --> 00:31:32,803 I've got to do something." 559 00:31:32,863 --> 00:31:34,503 Papa: He figured he had to move 560 00:31:34,565 --> 00:31:38,865 to save his skin, to save Angelo Ruggiero's skin. 561 00:31:38,965 --> 00:31:42,295 Gotti decides that Castellano has to go. 562 00:31:44,068 --> 00:31:48,268 Schumacher: I think he believed that he was the best person for that job. 563 00:31:48,269 --> 00:31:51,069 He really wanted to run the Gambino crime family 564 00:31:51,171 --> 00:31:53,201 the way he thought it should be run. 565 00:31:53,271 --> 00:31:56,111 Feldman: Gotti felt very strongly that that was the time 566 00:31:56,172 --> 00:31:59,872 to make a move on and to replace, I.E., 567 00:31:59,873 --> 00:32:02,583 kill, Paul Castellano. 568 00:32:02,674 --> 00:32:06,084 Gotti was very, how should I say, full of himself. 569 00:32:06,076 --> 00:32:09,606 He thought he was the embodiment of the Mafia. 570 00:32:11,278 --> 00:32:14,108 Schumacher: If someone is going to kill a Mafia boss, 571 00:32:14,179 --> 00:32:17,209 you have to get the permission of the commission 572 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,280 in order to do that. 573 00:32:19,381 --> 00:32:21,281 In this case, there's a risk. 574 00:32:21,381 --> 00:32:27,781 ♪♪ 575 00:32:29,917 --> 00:32:34,317 Once John Gotti makes a decision he's got to kill his boss, 576 00:32:34,386 --> 00:32:35,986 that's no light decision. 577 00:32:36,086 --> 00:32:40,216 There are a lot of rules in organized crime. 578 00:32:40,288 --> 00:32:44,218 The cardinal rule is, you don't kill the boss. 579 00:32:44,289 --> 00:32:48,019 You don't take out the boss of a crime family 580 00:32:48,090 --> 00:32:49,490 unless you're sanctioned. 581 00:32:49,591 --> 00:32:51,391 You have to get the permission 582 00:32:51,459 --> 00:32:53,289 of the commission in order to do that. 583 00:32:53,292 --> 00:32:57,392 Because if you don't have that, then everybody's fair game. 584 00:32:59,227 --> 00:33:02,027 Papa: John Gotti was hatching a plot 585 00:33:02,095 --> 00:33:07,095 without the approval of the other families in New York 586 00:33:07,097 --> 00:33:10,397 to bump off Paul Castellano. 587 00:33:10,465 --> 00:33:12,225 It was kill or be killed. 588 00:33:12,299 --> 00:33:14,799 Raab: Gotti showed some actual brilliance, 589 00:33:14,799 --> 00:33:21,299 how he arranged, engineered the murder of Paul Castellano. 590 00:33:21,402 --> 00:33:24,202 Destefano: He needed certain alliances with certain people, 591 00:33:24,203 --> 00:33:29,143 so Angelo Ruggiero approached Sammy Gravano, 592 00:33:29,205 --> 00:33:33,405 who was a well-respected member of the crime family, 593 00:33:33,506 --> 00:33:36,006 a good earner in the construction business, 594 00:33:36,006 --> 00:33:40,306 but had a reputation for being a brutal guy, a killer. 595 00:33:40,409 --> 00:33:43,239 Feldman: Sammy Gravano, or, as he was known in the family, 596 00:33:43,310 --> 00:33:45,910 Sammy "The Bull" Gravano, was a tough guy. 597 00:33:45,910 --> 00:33:48,510 He was somebody who, later on, 598 00:33:48,611 --> 00:33:52,411 admitted to having no issues at all killing people 599 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,210 if he thought that that was something that needed 600 00:33:54,214 --> 00:33:56,314 to be done for the family. 601 00:33:56,414 --> 00:33:58,124 Schumacher: He was a kind of a mastermind 602 00:33:58,215 --> 00:34:00,415 of how to make these things happen 603 00:34:00,483 --> 00:34:02,323 so that they were done efficiently, 604 00:34:02,317 --> 00:34:03,847 with minimal witnesses, 605 00:34:03,916 --> 00:34:05,816 so they could all get away with it. 606 00:34:05,816 --> 00:34:08,916 Gotti sent his right-hand man, Angelo, and he had told me ... 607 00:34:09,018 --> 00:34:12,748 he said, "Sammy," he says, "We're going to take out Paul." 608 00:34:12,853 --> 00:34:14,923 Schumacher: And Sammy Gravano was all in. 609 00:34:15,020 --> 00:34:20,860 ♪♪ 610 00:34:20,922 --> 00:34:24,422 Feldman: The word had reached John Gotti that Paul Castellano 611 00:34:24,524 --> 00:34:29,334 was going to have dinner at the Sparks Steak House in Manhattan. 612 00:34:29,326 --> 00:34:31,016 And the decision was made 613 00:34:31,025 --> 00:34:35,325 that that would be the perfect time to kill him. 614 00:34:37,762 --> 00:34:39,762 Papa: Here it is, it's a winter night. 615 00:34:39,863 --> 00:34:42,933 It's a week or so before Christmas. 616 00:34:43,029 --> 00:34:45,959 Gabriel: John and Sammy had put a crew together 617 00:34:46,030 --> 00:34:49,530 and were very careful in who they selected. 618 00:34:49,533 --> 00:34:53,773 Only about 11 people involved in this hit. 619 00:34:53,867 --> 00:34:56,767 Raab: Almost nobody knew who the target was 620 00:34:56,834 --> 00:34:59,244 until the very day of the murder. 621 00:34:59,337 --> 00:35:01,437 Destefano: The plan was well-choreographed. 622 00:35:01,537 --> 00:35:07,337 All the shooters gathered down by Madison Square Park 623 00:35:07,339 --> 00:35:09,169 in Manhattan. 624 00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:13,140 Raab: Gotti had this whole hit crew dressed in the same way ... 625 00:35:13,141 --> 00:35:18,041 long raincoats and wearing Russian fur hats. 626 00:35:18,143 --> 00:35:22,453 This, of course, was done to make identification problematic 627 00:35:22,511 --> 00:35:24,511 later for eyewitnesses. 628 00:35:24,512 --> 00:35:25,942 They were given their assignments, 629 00:35:26,045 --> 00:35:28,035 and they went uptown. 630 00:35:28,045 --> 00:35:30,945 They were told, "Kill them. 631 00:35:31,046 --> 00:35:33,176 And if it means you have to die there, 632 00:35:33,248 --> 00:35:34,948 then die there with them. 633 00:35:35,048 --> 00:35:36,548 Die there in a gun battle with the cops. 634 00:35:36,550 --> 00:35:38,680 Do not back off of this hit." 635 00:35:41,050 --> 00:35:42,550 Destefano: Close in time to this, 636 00:35:42,552 --> 00:35:45,252 Castellano was coming in from Staten Island, 637 00:35:45,352 --> 00:35:47,392 visiting his lawyer, 638 00:35:47,453 --> 00:35:50,393 and then had a dinner date at sparks restaurant. 639 00:35:50,454 --> 00:35:54,894 Paul Castellano left his attorney's office in Downtown 640 00:35:54,955 --> 00:35:56,455 or Midtown Manhattan. 641 00:35:56,523 --> 00:35:58,893 Gabriel: Tommy Bilotti, who's Paul's underboss ... 642 00:35:58,956 --> 00:36:02,386 he's driving Paul in Paul's town car. 643 00:36:02,458 --> 00:36:04,658 Raab: They didn't have a bodyguard. 644 00:36:04,659 --> 00:36:06,559 Neither was armed. 645 00:36:06,660 --> 00:36:09,860 He was just so certain of his security 646 00:36:09,860 --> 00:36:12,260 that no one would dare oppose him. 647 00:36:12,362 --> 00:36:14,662 And that shows you his fatal mistake. 648 00:36:16,663 --> 00:36:19,473 Destefano: The streets were packed with a lot of people, 649 00:36:19,531 --> 00:36:22,301 which was another thing the planners figured, 650 00:36:22,365 --> 00:36:24,695 that may be easy to blend in. 651 00:36:24,799 --> 00:36:27,069 Gabriel: So, you had four primary shooters 652 00:36:27,066 --> 00:36:29,266 that were going to attack the car, 653 00:36:29,368 --> 00:36:31,568 and then you had shooters strategically placed 654 00:36:31,669 --> 00:36:33,469 around corners in case 655 00:36:33,569 --> 00:36:35,799 they tried to get away or whatever. 656 00:36:35,903 --> 00:36:37,473 [Walkie-talkie chirps] 657 00:36:37,537 --> 00:36:39,907 Feldman: Gotti and Sammy "The Bull" Gravano 658 00:36:39,971 --> 00:36:45,011 were witnessing this from a car just across the street. 659 00:36:45,072 --> 00:36:49,012 Gabriel: Sammy's got a gun, so he's kind of a backup shooter. 660 00:36:49,073 --> 00:36:52,313 And they're positioned kind of as the lookouts 661 00:36:52,376 --> 00:36:54,476 to give the shooters a heads-up 662 00:36:54,544 --> 00:36:58,114 if they were to see Paul coming down. 663 00:36:58,178 --> 00:37:01,208 Sammy's sitting there with a walkie-talkie. 664 00:37:01,279 --> 00:37:05,579 You know, suddenly, they notice Paul's car 665 00:37:05,580 --> 00:37:09,580 pulling up right past them and stopping at the light. 666 00:37:09,682 --> 00:37:11,382 They're just praying Paul doesn't look over, 667 00:37:11,482 --> 00:37:14,382 because he would recognize them in a heartbeat. 668 00:37:14,483 --> 00:37:17,553 Gravano: And I said, "John, they're right next to us." 669 00:37:17,552 --> 00:37:19,792 And I told John, "If he turns in our direction, 670 00:37:19,786 --> 00:37:21,916 I'm going to start shooting right here and now." 671 00:37:24,587 --> 00:37:27,817 Gabriel: Light changes, and Sammy radios to the shooters, 672 00:37:27,921 --> 00:37:29,621 "Hey, they're pulling up right now. 673 00:37:29,689 --> 00:37:31,589 So everybody get ready." 674 00:37:31,690 --> 00:37:34,990 Feldman: So, when Paul Castellano and his driver 675 00:37:34,990 --> 00:37:38,490 showed up at the Sparks Steak House in Manhattan, 676 00:37:38,592 --> 00:37:42,592 they got out of the car, and ... 677 00:37:42,594 --> 00:37:46,594 as soon as those doors opened, 678 00:37:46,595 --> 00:37:49,595 Gotti's shooters were right on the scene. 679 00:37:49,696 --> 00:37:53,826 Papa: Before you know it, numerous shots are fired. 680 00:37:56,498 --> 00:37:59,728 And these two men were dead in the street. 681 00:37:59,832 --> 00:38:05,942 ♪♪ 682 00:38:06,001 --> 00:38:08,941 Gabriel: It went off as planned. 683 00:38:09,002 --> 00:38:10,572 Once they confirm that they were dead, 684 00:38:10,570 --> 00:38:15,410 these guys calmly walked into the crowd, disappeared. 685 00:38:15,505 --> 00:38:17,305 According to Gravano, 686 00:38:17,406 --> 00:38:20,236 he and John watched the shooting take place 687 00:38:20,307 --> 00:38:22,037 and then drove by it 688 00:38:22,106 --> 00:38:26,006 and saw that Bilotti and Castellano were shot 689 00:38:26,108 --> 00:38:27,938 and then drove away. 690 00:38:31,610 --> 00:38:34,210 Raab: They both died at the scene. No chance. 691 00:38:34,311 --> 00:38:37,111 They never even bothered taking them to a hospital. 692 00:38:37,213 --> 00:38:39,213 They went right to the morgue. 693 00:38:39,313 --> 00:38:41,613 Destefano: Of course, it's pandemonium on the street. 694 00:38:41,714 --> 00:38:43,224 The shooting. There's two bodies. 695 00:38:43,314 --> 00:38:46,724 On the curb is Castellano, who was clenching his gloves 696 00:38:46,716 --> 00:38:51,616 in his hand, mouth open, blood all over the place. 697 00:38:51,618 --> 00:38:53,218 Feldman: The killing of Paul Castellano 698 00:38:53,218 --> 00:38:55,218 was not only a big deal in the Mafia world, 699 00:38:55,319 --> 00:38:57,849 it was a big deal in the general public. 700 00:38:57,919 --> 00:39:03,419 This was an execution in the middle of New York city. 701 00:39:03,421 --> 00:39:05,661 Papa: What happened? Why did this happen? 702 00:39:05,723 --> 00:39:09,523 What was going on? Who did this? 703 00:39:09,591 --> 00:39:15,961 A mob boss taken out in broad daylight in Midtown Manhattan, 704 00:39:16,025 --> 00:39:18,425 and, basically, nobody saw anything. 705 00:39:18,427 --> 00:39:19,827 Cardinale: It was huge. 706 00:39:19,828 --> 00:39:21,828 Every single newspaper in New York 707 00:39:21,828 --> 00:39:24,728 had it on the front page. 708 00:39:24,829 --> 00:39:28,229 Papa: To the general public, this was scary. 709 00:39:28,330 --> 00:39:29,860 It was titillating. 710 00:39:29,930 --> 00:39:32,070 It was real tabloid fodder. 711 00:39:32,131 --> 00:39:35,371 And New Yorkers really eat that up. 712 00:39:36,967 --> 00:39:38,327 Destefano: Everybody's figuring, 713 00:39:38,434 --> 00:39:42,174 "Okay, are we going to see a war on the streets now? 714 00:39:42,235 --> 00:39:44,035 What's going on?" 715 00:39:44,135 --> 00:39:46,365 This is a major, major hit. 716 00:39:48,170 --> 00:39:51,340 Papa: This moment changed the trajectory for John Gotti. 717 00:39:51,339 --> 00:39:54,439 The Paul Castellano killing really catapulted 718 00:39:54,439 --> 00:39:56,869 John Gotti into the forefront. 719 00:39:56,973 --> 00:39:58,613 Destefano: Gotti, overnight, 720 00:39:58,608 --> 00:40:03,838 became the premier gangster in the Gambino family. 721 00:40:03,843 --> 00:40:07,943 Papa: This now becomes this power vacuum 722 00:40:07,943 --> 00:40:11,883 in the most powerful crime family in New York. 723 00:40:11,944 --> 00:40:17,984 And John Gotti was stepping into that void and taking control. 724 00:40:18,047 --> 00:40:22,177 Destefano: There was a meeting of the captains in the crime family, 725 00:40:22,249 --> 00:40:24,949 and Gotti was voted in. 726 00:40:24,949 --> 00:40:28,149 Raab: So, here he is, in his 40s ... he's now the head 727 00:40:28,252 --> 00:40:31,252 of the most powerful crime family in America. 728 00:40:31,253 --> 00:40:35,553 ♪♪ 729 00:40:35,621 --> 00:40:37,351 Feldman: Once John Gotti becomes the head, 730 00:40:37,455 --> 00:40:42,085 what emerges is a very unprecedented 731 00:40:42,155 --> 00:40:45,655 and very public head of a mob family. 732 00:40:45,757 --> 00:40:48,457 Schumacher: Ultimately, Gravano becomes Gotti's underboss, 733 00:40:48,558 --> 00:40:50,758 running a lot of the day-to-day operations 734 00:40:50,759 --> 00:40:52,759 of the Gambino crime family. 735 00:40:52,860 --> 00:40:56,860 Raab: John Gotti was truly a wolf in sheep's clothing. 736 00:40:59,161 --> 00:41:02,661 Destefano: The press romanticized him, glorified him. 737 00:41:02,663 --> 00:41:07,703 John Gotti was the number-one target for the government. 738 00:41:07,765 --> 00:41:10,565 Man: John Gotti stands out as the most powerful leader 739 00:41:10,633 --> 00:41:12,173 in organized crime. 740 00:41:12,166 --> 00:41:14,666 Schumacher: In order to get recordings, 741 00:41:14,668 --> 00:41:17,698 they needed to be inside the Ravenite Social Club. 742 00:41:17,769 --> 00:41:21,999 To try to get him to incriminate himself, basically. 743 00:41:25,404 --> 00:41:28,174 Gabriel: We got to find a way to put him in jail. 744 00:41:28,273 --> 00:41:30,643 Up until Paul Castellano's brutal murder, 745 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:34,170 John Gotti was barely on federal investigators' radar. 746 00:41:34,275 --> 00:41:36,275 But after he carried out the ruthless hit 747 00:41:36,375 --> 00:41:39,175 and took the throne as the Gambino's godfather, 748 00:41:39,276 --> 00:41:41,676 Gotti became public enemy number one. 749 00:41:41,677 --> 00:41:45,707 Almost instantly, he transformed into the Dapper Don, 750 00:41:45,778 --> 00:41:47,908 running a violent criminal enterprise, 751 00:41:48,012 --> 00:41:50,712 all while wearing a suit and a smile. 752 00:41:50,780 --> 00:41:52,880 In the end, it would take a complex 753 00:41:52,881 --> 00:41:54,581 and lengthy FBI operation 754 00:41:54,649 --> 00:41:58,679 to finally stop him, in part 2 of "John Gotti." 755 00:41:58,783 --> 00:42:01,723 I'm Donnie Wahlberg. Thanks for watching. 756 00:42:01,784 --> 00:42:03,124 Good night. 61061

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