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Larry King: What did you get out of it?
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David: Nothing.
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I just, like, felt I had no mind.
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[Gunshot]
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I felt something else was controlling ...
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controlling me.
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Welcome to "Very Scary People."
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I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
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Between July of 1976 and June of 1977,
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David Berkowitz was busy making nightmares a reality,
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maiming or killing 11 innocent victims.
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Certain he was targeting long-haired brunettes,
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women began cutting and coloring their hair.
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Couples avoided going out.
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All to escape being attacked by the Son of Sam.
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Panic in New York City was mounting.
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Where and when would the killer strike next?
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Police had no real leads.
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Then, finally, a mistake puts an end to the terror.
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This is part two of "Son Of Sam: I am a Monster."
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Reporter: He struck in the dark of night,
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popping out of the shadows in the Bronx and Queens.
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[Gunshot]
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Kamen: There was nothing that told them the killer
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was about to do open fire on them,
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and he did.
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[Gunshots]
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Man: A killer made his way from one dark street
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to another without a face and name, without an identity.
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He was an M.O.
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Everyone agreed that it was a young white male
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between 25 and 30 years old, about 6 feet tall.
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Borrelli: "I am a monster."
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Kamen: "I am the Son of Sam."
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It scared the shit out of 7 million people
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that lived in the city.
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Reporter #2: Young people stopped sitting in cars,
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stopped going out,
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or went out only when they absolutely had to.
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Everybody was afraid.
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Because they really don't know
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where he's going to turn up next.
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He captivated this city for an entire year.
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So, who was this monster
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that was stalking the city of New York?
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David: I knew it was wrong,
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but when a mind is captured by Satan,
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you can't look at things and evaluate things
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in their right perspective.
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He was adopted by Pearl and Nathan Berkowitz.
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He seemed to have a relatively normal childhood at first,
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but then behavioral issues started to bubble up.
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His adoptive mother died of cancer when he was 14.
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Interviewer: What was that like for you?
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David: Completely devastating.
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Jordan: June 26, 1977, Judy Placido, 17 years old,
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and Salvatore Lupo.
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They had gone out to a disco in Queens.
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At the end of the night, they walked back to the car
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and got inside.
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They were actually talking about the murders happening
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and how scary it was, and then it hit them.
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Klausner: The same thing that's happened before ...
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a figure walks up, takes a shooting stance, and bang!
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[Gunshots]
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That particular night, my partner and myself,
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we were just a couple of blocks away.
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And by the time we got there, it was said and done.
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He's evaded capture.
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Jordan: Even though Judy and Sal survived,
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they really couldn't provide any description to the police.
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Police, once again, were stumped.
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Those things create an image that he will not be caught.
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The police cannot see him.
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He is a wisp of smoke that just dissipates into the air.
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King: So, there was no plan
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on how I'm gonna get away with this?
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David: No.
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No plan to deceive? No, no.
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I was just a real mess.
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Klausner: The police really have nothing to go on.
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Is there going to be another shooting?
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Of course, the police knew there would be.
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More police officers are assigned,
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Queens and the Bronx, but he won't strike there again.
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Now he will strike in Brooklyn.
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Jordan: On July 31, 1977,
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Robert Violante and Stacy Moskowitz
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were out on a date in Brooklyn.
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Kamen: Stacy's mom, Neysa Moskowitz, said,
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"You be careful tonight, sweetheart."
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The warning could not prevent the nightmare.
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Stacy's response was, "Mom, I'm a blonde."
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Jordan: At the end of their night, they drove down to a park
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underneath the Verrazzano Bridge,
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which was a well-known lovers' lane.
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They were in an area where couples would park.
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Jordan: They got out of the car
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and walked over to the swing set.
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But they saw a man watching them..
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...and decided to return to the car.
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Klausner: And at that moment, the shooting occurs.
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Whoever would have been in that particular spot
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would have gotten killed.
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It was my daughter's unfortunate luck
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to have been there.
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He approached the car, and he fired through the window.
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[Gunshots]
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Woman: He was covered with blood,
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and the girl was covered with blood.
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It was a horror.
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Just started screaming, just screaming and screaming.
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Stacy Moskowitz was transported to the hospital, where she died.
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And Robert Violante was shot and blinded for life.
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I lost something very dear to me.
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Great kid.
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Kamen: You have to really feel for the cops on this.
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They're waiting for something
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that will let them put things together.
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They want to stop the killer. They have to stop the killer.
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Collarini-Schlossberg: Inevitably,
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killers make mistakes.
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And so did the Son of Sam.
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It seems that David Berkowitz had looked into his background
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shortly before he started his killing spree.
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He wants to find out more about his birth family.
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Klausner: David had this idealistic view
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of what his real mother and father would be like.
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And, unfortunately, he isn't happy with what he finds out.
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David: My parents told me,
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I think when I was around 5 or 6 years old,
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that I was adopted.
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I really had a hard time with that
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because my parents, meaning well
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and probably under the instruction of other people,
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were told to tell me that my mom had died
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while giving birth to me
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and that my dad couldn't care for me,
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so he put me up for adoption.
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Interviewer: But that wasn't true, was it?
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Jordan: His father, Nate, finally told him the truth.
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His mother hadn't actually died in childbirth.
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David: I think now, looking back in retrospect,
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there was times I had a lot of guilt
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because I thought that somehow, in some way,
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I was responsible for the death of my mom.
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I see it did cause a lot of difficulty in my life.
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I had internal struggles over that issue.
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David was actually born to Betty Falco.
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David is a baby out of wedlock.
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She had had an affair.
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Her pregnancy with David
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was, in fact, a product of the affair.
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But even more disturbing to David
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was the fact that Betty had a daughter named Roslyn,
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13 years older, that she had never given up.
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And he went to great length
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to search out his natural family.
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And he actually met his natural mother,
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his sister, and her children.
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And they had, at one point, you know, a nice relationship.
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And then, ultimately, he felt greatly rejected
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by his natural mother, Betty,
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because although she retained and cared for his sister,
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she chose to give him away.
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Jordan: This would cause
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a deep-seated and harboring rage within him.
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The psychiatrists found the interaction
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with the birth mother
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and his older sister quite significant
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in terms of what may have led him to kill.
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These are all very powerful experiences
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in the life of someone who feels inadequate to begin with.
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The abandonment by his mother,
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the death of his adoptive mother,
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the fact that he never had a girlfriend ...
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all of these negative experiences
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really bubbled up into a rage
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where he wanted to get back at women.
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At that point, he was certainly delusional.
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And I think his delusions pushed him in the direction
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of these horrible crimes.
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And very shortly after, will start out on this rampage.
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When David Berkowitz aimed and shot
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each of those young women,
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he is symbolically killing every woman
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who has ever rejected him or let him down.
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[Siren wailing, horns honking in distance]
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He looked me straight in the face, he looked at my dog.
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And right here...
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we crossed each other.
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Cecilia Davis didn't like the look of this guy,
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so she hurried home.
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And just as she got inside her house and closed the door,
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she heard the rain of bullets... [Gunshots]
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...the shooting that took the lives of Robert and Stacy.
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She told the police about this strange man
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she saw just before the shooting,
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and she remembered something else.
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Justus: On the night of the Moskowitz shooting,
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she saw the police officers issuing a summons to a car.
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It was right next to the hydrant by her home.
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So, the first thing you do is you pull all the summonses
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that are issued.
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Boring? Yeah.
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But it's something that had to be done.
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Jordan: There could be other witnesses besides Cecilia Davis
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who could give them a clue as to who the shooter is.
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Breslin: But the police looked for the ticket,
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and they couldn't find the ticket.
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There was a thought that maybe there was no summons served,
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but she was so positive of it.
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Where is it?
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I found out who the police officer was
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that had that sector, called him on the phone,
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and I asked him, you know, "Did you issue a summons?"
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And he said, "Yes."
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And I asked him, "Well, why wasn't the summons turned in?"
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He said the chaos that night ... when somebody gets shot,
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the last thing you're thinking about is that stupid summons.
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And he just forgot about it,
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and he stuck the summons in his hat.
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The patrolman who wrote the ticket didn't submit the ticket.
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He put it in his locker for a couple of days.
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Again, this whole thing is going towards a possible witness.
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I went in and I looked in his summons receipt book.
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They found four that were handed out that night by the police.
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Kamen: And there's a parking ticket for a vehicle
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that isn't even a New York City vehicle.
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It's from this northern suburb, Yonkers.
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Klausner: From a car that was parked
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at a fire hydrant, a Ford Galaxy,
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to someone named David Berkowitz.
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Max: They're looking at this and thinking,
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"What is this guy, you know, from Yonkers,
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you know, doing in Brooklyn, in that neighborhood?"
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It just seemed out of place.
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There is a higher power, as they say.
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So, Justus picks up the phone, and he calls the Yonkers P.D.
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and a very pleasant woman answers the phone.
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Thank God the person on the switchboard
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was Wheat Carr.
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Jordan: Wheat Carr was the daughter
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of Yonkers resident Sam Carr.
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Over the previous year,
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the Carr family had been harassed by somebody.
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They had a dog named Harvey, and Harvey would bark.
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[Dog barking]
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The harasser sent threatening letters
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complaining about Sam's barking dog,
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threw a Molotov cocktail into their yard.
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that the person doing it was their neighbor, David Berkowitz.
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So when Detective Justus calls Yonkers to look into Berkowitz
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as a possible witness to the Moskowitz murder,
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by complete coincidence, Wheat Carr picks up the phone
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because she just so happens
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to be a dispatcher for the Yonkers P.D.
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It was being at the right place at the right time, so to speak.
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And as soon as I mentioned David Berkowitz,
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she said, "Let me tell you about him.
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I know him."
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He lived in the apartment house
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directly behind where her and her father lived.
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She then related a story
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about her black Labrador retriever
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being shot by Berkowitz,
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and the fact that Berkowitz was strange.
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Clark: He says, "He shot your father's dog?"
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"Yeah."
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"What's your name?" "Wheat."
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"Okay, what's your dad's name?" "Sam."
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"Sam?!"
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I went back to my command, and my inspector was there.
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And I said to him, "I think we got the guy."
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Collarini-Schlossberg: And the next step was to set him up
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so that they could make an arrest.
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Jordan: On August 10, 1977,
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NYPD detectives take a road trip up to Yonkers, New York,
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and coordinate a stakeout on that Ford Galaxy.
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It's parked right outside of David Berkowitz's apartment.
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And they looked in the car.
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Clark: And they see a duffel bag with a gun sticking out of it,
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and this letter in that Son of Sam handwriting.
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So, what they did was, they set up a surveillance on the car.
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Jordan: Sure enough, about 10:00 p.m. that night,
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a white, heavyset man with dark hair
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comes out and approaches the car.
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Coffey: He's got a brown paper bag in his hand.
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He puts it on the car seat.
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Within seconds, police have surrounded the vehicle.
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He says, "Put your hands on the dashboard,
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turn the ignition off," which he does.
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He immediately said, "You got me."
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And they said, "Who do we got?"
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He said, "I'm the Son of Sam."
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He's just smiling at them.
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He gives himself right up.
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In the bag on the front seat of the car,
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was the .44-caliber gun that killed all those people.
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Game over.
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Reporter #2: This is the man police say
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is the .44-caliber killer.
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Young, dark-haired, almost chubby.
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When he came into the building,
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we all had the same reaction ...
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how ordinary-looking this guy was.
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I think his appearance was almost startling to people.
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All along, we think we're gonna find this screaming, crazy guy.
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He was a regular Joe.
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He had a big smile on his face.
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He was almost enjoying the fuss, the excitement.
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I am very pleased to announce that the people
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of the city of New York can rest easy this morning.
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Police have captured a man whom they believe
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to be the Son of Sam.
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Kamen: I was at the press conference.
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You can imagine what this moment is like
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across the entire New York City police department.
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Oh, I was elated. It was a wonderful feeling.
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Hopkins: People were in the streets. They were partying.
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And it was all over the radio, TV.
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David Berkowitz, when arrested ...
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24-year-old guy, was working at the post office.
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People who knew him said, "I would have had no idea."
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Hopkins: We went to the post office, where he worked,
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and they're all in disbelief.
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Max: He had been escorting some of his young female colleagues
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to walk to their cars because of this mass murderer on the loose.
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Hopkins: One fellow says, "Well, every morning,
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he would have the newspaper."
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And at that time, this was in the newspaper
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every day, front page.
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And he would turn around and say to them,
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"I hope we get this son of a bitch."
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To me, that was ... that was crazy.
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Klausner: They bring him to New York City
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to the chief of detective's office.
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Borrelli: We stuck him in a room all by himself,
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and all the detectives that had a case went in, interviewed him.
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Hopkins: We all had a shot at him, questioning.
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It was an eerie feeling,
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'cause here's the conclusion of all that we did,
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and it's in front of us.
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David just tells them everything.
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He went through each of the killings.
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He knew every detail.
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He knew how he shot every victim.
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He knew the conditions of the street.
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He knew where he shot the victims.
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He knew what part of the body he shot them in.
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He's very nonchalant, sometimes a little bit of a smirk,
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which kind of unnerved you a little bit.
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He was so proud of what he had done, that he was so famous,
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and he couldn't wait to tell everybody about it.
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He was, frankly, as he told me, greatly relieved.
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Jordan: In his confessions to police
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and subsequent interviews,
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David Berkowitz would provide the details
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that would shed light on each of those individual killings.
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One of the first shootings, he said that,
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"I saw the two girls in a car.
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I went around the block.
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There was my sign.
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There's this beautiful parking space.
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I pulled right into the parking space, walked up, shot them...
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[Gunshots]
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...got back in the car, and drove away."
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A spot to park his car was what got these girls shot.
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Jordan: After the second one...
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[Gunshots]
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...he pulled over at a White Castle hamburger restaurant
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and had a meal.
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There were a number of times
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when we learned through the interviewing process
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that Berkowitz had gone out perhaps intending to shoot
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but did not.
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Clark: He was out every night, driving around,
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waiting for something
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that triggered him to go shoot somebody.
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Hopkins: He probably traveled 400, 500 miles
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from one borough to another,
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and he was just searching out victims.
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It was all opportunistic.
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Heller: There was never a specific rhyme or reason.
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It was just random shootings.
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[Gunshots]
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He told me that his primary object was the female.
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[Gunshot]
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And of course, in those days,
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young men wore their hair kind of long,
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so you didn't know whether you were necessarily
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shooting a male or a female.
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In some instances, the men were hit, also.
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Klausner: He was embarrassed that he even shot at men,
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because that wasn't his objective.
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[Gunshots]
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There were some stories, unfortunately,
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where they just missed the killer.
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There was a code put out, the 44 code.
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When that happened, the bridges were going to be manned
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by police officers after a shooting incident.
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There were two policewomen guarding the tollbooths.
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The killer was in the third car to come.
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The gun was on the seat next to him.
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The two police decided
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they weren't gonna have any business tonight,
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and they left just as the cars were pulling up.
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And he would have been stopped right there.
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In 1975, at Christmastime,
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David decides it's time for blood.
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So he accosts a young lady on a footbridge
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that spans a parkway in the Bronx.
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He described stabbing her multiple times.
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Collarini-Schlossberg: He thought that that was going to
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be
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an easy way to kill a person.
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He apparently had some ideas from TV shows
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that the person was just going to get stabbed,
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collapse, and die.
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And instead, this particular woman fought back.
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She starts to scream.
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[Screaming]
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Max: She didn't die.
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There was a little bit of panic that he described,
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with a knife actually going into another human being's flesh.
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Borrelli: He ran away. I guess then after that,
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he decided he was gonna use a gun.
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Collarini-Schlossberg: He really didn't want there
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to be too much of a messy scene for him.
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He wanted to do it, get it done, and go away.
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He had a friend purchase him the gun down in Texas.
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He will go to another state, get a straw purchase of a handgun,
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and come back to New York and start a shooting spree
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where you can shoot from a distance.
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It's less personal, in the same vein.
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Welcome back to "Very Scary People."
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After his arrest in 1977,
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David Berkowitz readily admitted to police
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that he was the man they'd been searching for ...
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the serial killer known as the Son of Sam.
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The city was relieved to get him off the streets.
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And it couldn't have happened at a better time.
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On the night of his arrest,
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Berkowitz was allegedly going out to kill again.
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This time, headed to a nightclub in Long Island,
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where he planned to carry out a mass shooting.
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But there were still many questions that remained.
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In the first interrogation and confession,
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investigators asked the question everyone wanted to know ...
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Why did he kill?
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Kamen: David Berkowitz told the police
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that it really wasn't his fault.
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He was doing the bidding of a powerful demon
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that was speaking to him through his neighbor Sam Carr's dog.
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He fixates on this Carr family mainly because of the dog.
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The dog kept howling and waking him up.
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And caused him a great deal of sleep deprivation.
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Jordan: He said that the dog barking
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was sending him a message
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from a 6,000-year-old man named Sam
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and telling him that he had to go out and kill.
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Kamen: And so he was the Son of Sam.
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That's what he called himself,
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because he said the demon told him to do it.
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David: I had nothing against these victims.
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Who were these people to me?
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They were just people. I wasn't angry against them.
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Interviewer: Then why'd you do it?
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Well, Sam did it through me.
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He used me.
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He made me go out there and do it.
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He ... I did it for him, for blood.
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Klausner: It was pure chance.
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It wasn't a calculated thing.
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The demons would tell him, "Hey, this is the one.
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Do it."
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Heller: David clearly,
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at the time these crimes were committed,
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had a very reduced mental state.
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The best word I could use is delusional.
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He had delusions about everything around him.
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Klausner: When the police got into his apartment,
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they found something they were not ready for.
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His apartment shows a tormented soul.
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He kind of closed up his apartment
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and put curtains over the windows
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and really isolated himself.
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Max: One entire wall of Berkowitz's apartment
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was covered in ...
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I will use the word "bizarre" ... writings.
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There were writings about Sam Carr.
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A lot of writings about Satan.
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There were the writings for the demons,
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where they lived, who they were.
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There was actually a hole in the wall.
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He said somebody lived in that hole.
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Hopkins: Sometimes he'd go home without finding anybody,
533
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and that depressed him.
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And then the hole in the wall would respond to say,
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"Well, you have to go out and do this again."
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[Gunshot]
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Who does that?
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Reporter #3: Today, Berkowitz's 68-year-old father
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held an emotional news conference to try to explain,
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to try to reach out to those his son allegedly hurt.
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I will live with this heartache for the rest of my life.
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♪♪
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♪♪
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Reporter 4: Berkowitz was brought to court
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in an 8-vehicle motorcade.
548
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David and I went to the Supreme Court in Kings County,
549
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where an arraignment was conducted.
550
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,000
There must have been literally over
551
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3,000 media people from all over the world.
552
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,000
Would there be a trial? Would he be set free?
553
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,000
There were 101 questions.
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Heller: What surprised me was how calm he was.
555
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:26,000
Usually people are very erratic.
556
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They can become violent at times.
557
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But he was very friendly, very cordial,
558
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and at that point, very contrite.
559
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I found him to be very, very bright, very perceptive,
560
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actually brilliant.
561
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I guess there's a very thin line between insanity and genius.
562
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First order of business then became determining
563
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whether or not he was competent to stand trial.
564
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I felt for sure they would just put him in a nuthouse
565
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and that'd be the end of it.
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Max: It was clear from the letters that he had written
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that he had a disordered mind.
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Under the law, a person who is legally incompetent
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cannot be tried.
570
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Eventually, he has to go in for evaluation, which he did.
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Max: The outward appearance of Mr. Berkowitz was normal.
572
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And in responding to the psychiatrists,
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for the most part, he sounded, I'll use the word "rational."
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However, when questioned about the killings and about why,
575
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what he was articulating was what those first doctors
576
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called a fixed delusional structure.
577
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"I did this because the demons on Earth,
578
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speaking through Sam Carr's dog,
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were telling me they needed blood."
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[Gunshot]
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That was how he articulated to the doctors
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why he killed.
583
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Reporter #5: Their opinion, that Berkowitz is not competent
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to help his lawyers or understand the proceedings,
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not competent to stand trial.
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Max: Reality was, there was no way,
587
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given the intense pressures on the district attorneys,
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the terror that the city had suffered,
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that a finding of incompetence
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was going to be acceptable to the powers that be.
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He simply killed too many people,
592
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and they couldn't let that go by.
593
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,000
If you spoke to him for 30 seconds,
594
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you could see he was crazy,
595
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but there were too many dead bodies around,
596
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and somebody had to account for them.
597
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So they put another psychiatrist in.
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Max: Brooklyn D.A.'s office hired Dr. David Abrahamsen.
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Abrahamsen says, "Well, look at the way
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in which he is able to talk to us about everything."
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Collarini-Schlossberg: This was someone
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who knew what he was doing.
603
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:07,000
He was smart enough to come up with a psychological discussion
604
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to explain away his crimes by making us think
605
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that he was some kind of mentally ill psychotic person.
606
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,000
But one of the things that we know about people
607
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who commit an offense like this is you can't be a madman
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and do the kind of planning and execution
609
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,000
that a man like this did.
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Max: Abrahamsen said Berkowitz was not lacking in capacity.
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He thought that he was actually malingering.
612
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"He can control his actions,
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because he tells me that on occasion,
614
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he would go out and would not kill."
615
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And on the basis of that,
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David was found competent to stand trial.
617
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He could have gone to trial and tried the insanity defense.
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His lawyers believed that he should try to claim it.
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Max: But the next month or so,
620
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the doctors at the hospital allowed a minister to see him,
621
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and David has converted to Christianity.
622
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,000
Well, what happened ...
623
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Berkowitz says, "I am going to plead guilty.
624
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I'm not going to use an insanity defense,
625
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:20,000
because I'm going to be giving credence to these demons,
626
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,000
and I can't do that, and Jesus has saved me."
627
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,000
I just wanted to end it,
628
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and I was just so distraught.
629
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I just confessed and pled guilty
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and got it over with.
631
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They consolidated all the cases,
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had him come in and enter a guilty plea.
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Then it just became a matter of sentencing after that.
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♪♪
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Max: What ultimately happened with Berkowitz is,
636
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sentencing was set maybe 10 days later
637
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and a very disturbing scene occurred.
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[Siren wailing]
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Reporter #6: There was no hint of trouble to come
640
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as Berkowitz was driven to court in an armored van.
641
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But once inside, a struggle broke out on the 7th floor.
642
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Berkowitz said he didn't want to be sentenced.
643
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He kicked and bit some of five officers trying to move him.
644
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Two officers were hurt, but not seriously,
645
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before Berkowitz was finally subdued.
646
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In court, spectators waited.
647
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,000
When Berkowitz was brought in,
648
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it was evident he was still agitated,
649
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wild-eyed in handcuffs.
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And the moment he hits the center of the courtroom,
651
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he starts to singsong chant.
652
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Reporter #6: Shouting repeatedly,
653
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"Stacy was a whore! I'd kill her again!"
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Kamen: It's one of the few times in my career
655
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I wanted to get up and attack a person who was speaking.
656
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Max: He had to be wrestled down
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and dragged out of the courtroom.
658
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:53,000
It was a very chilling scene,
659
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and I'm sure it was quite disturbing
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to the families of the victims, and the victims who were present
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00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,000
to see the surface veneer of normal appearance disappear
662
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:05,000
and be replaced by something scary.
663
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,000
I believe that David Berkowitz
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was a profoundly disturbed human being.
665
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,000
To me, his appearance in court just locked it in.
666
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,000
This is a guy who killed because he hated women.
667
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:24,000
Ultimately, he was sentenced to a number of sentences
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of 25 years to life.
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It's 25 to life for each of the 6 victims.
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The maximum for each of the crimes committed.
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Jordan: Plus additional time for attempted murders
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of his other victims.
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I don't have a whole lot of hate and anger,
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possibly because I'm still alive.
675
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But I certainly don't ... I don't forgive him.
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00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,000
I would've liked more to have happened to him.
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The electric chair, for instance.
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♪♪
679
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♪♪
680
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:10,000
When I first came to prison, I was very suicidal.
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And I was disgusted with my life.
682
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:17,000
I was angry at a lot of people.
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00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,000
I saw no hope.
684
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,000
Can you tell us what happened to your neck?
685
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,000
Uh... It's so obvious.
686
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,000
That's a nasty scar. Yeah.
687
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,000
In 1979, another inmate ...
688
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,000
I guess to make a name for himself ...
689
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,000
tried to take my life.
690
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:39,000
And he stuck me when I wasn't looking with a razor
691
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,000
and opened up the whole side of my neck.
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♪♪
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00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:53,000
♪♪
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00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,000
David admitted that he was a fraud.
695
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,000
Jordan: He said he made the whole thing up,
696
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,000
that he was just lying and malingering
697
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,000
with that "Son of Sam"
698
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,000
and the barking dog telling him to kill.
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00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:08,000
That he knew what he was doing and he knew that it was wrong.
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00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,000
Collarini-Schlossberg: And that his effort to look like
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00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,000
a psychologically deranged person
702
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:14,000
was part of his facade
703
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,000
to excuse the behaviors that he did.
704
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,000
[Gunshot]
705
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,000
This was not the demons in his head.
706
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,000
This was his own psychological disturbance.
707
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,000
Later, he would insist that he did not act alone,
708
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,000
that he was actually acting on behest of a satanic cult
709
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:39,000
and they forced him to do these things
710
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,000
and there were other people who conspired with him
711
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:43,000
and were part of the shootings.
712
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,000
You were sort of satanically involved?
713
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:47,000
Yes, I was.
714
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,000
It was the worst mistake of my life.
715
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,000
I was lonely. I was looking for companionship.
716
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,000
There's never been any evidence to support
717
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:58,000
that there were other people involved.
718
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:04,000
He'll say at the moment what he feels people want to hear.
719
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,000
What kind of work do you do?
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I work in the mental health unit.
721
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,000
And I'm there as, like, a peer counselor
722
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,000
for the men that have emotional problems.
723
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,000
Do you get psychiatric counseling?
724
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,000
No, I don't. No.
725
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,000
The Department of Corrections has given me
726
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:28,000
a clean bill of health.
727
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,000
After spending time in prison,
728
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,000
David became pretty much a born-again Christian.
729
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:40,000
During his time in jail, an inmate befriended David
730
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,000
and he started to introduce him to the Bible.
731
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,000
David: Prison is not easy, but over the years,
732
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,000
God has given me a lot of strength
733
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,000
and a lot of hope to make it and to endure and to survive.
734
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,000
Glassman: He even changed his nickname and his whole image
735
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,000
to the Son of Hope instead of the Son of Sam.
736
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,000
I feel that God has completely forgiven me,
737
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,000
and he's taught me how to forgive myself.
738
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,000
Have you ever had to deal with relatives
739
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,000
of the victims directly?
740
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,000
What would you say?
741
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,000
That I'm sorry.
742
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,000
Neysa, I understand he ... this guy Berkowitz ...
743
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,000
actually sends ...
744
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,000
has sent you a card on Mother's Day?
745
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,000
He has written you letters.
746
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,000
I have many letters from him.
747
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,000
Do you believe he's a changed man?
748
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,000
I mean, he says he's found God in prison.
749
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,000
Do you think that's some sort of bid,
750
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,000
maybe holding out hope that he might get parole someday?
751
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,000
No, he makes me feel like stone inside of me.
752
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,000
He's an animal.
753
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,000
King: You're gonna be here
754
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,000
the rest of your life, right?
755
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,000
David: That's right.
756
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,000
I'm doing consecutive life sentences
757
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,000
totaling more than 300 years.
758
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,000
What do you do with something like that?
759
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,000
Larry, believe it or not,
760
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,000
I have learned to just be content and accept the fact.
761
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:56,000
Klausner: He comes up every two years for parole
762
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,000
and doesn't even ask for a hearing now.
763
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,000
Heller: When I spoke to David and discussed the legal approach
764
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,000
that we could take to get him released,
765
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:11,000
he basically said to me, "I'm okay.
766
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,000
I've already been freed by a greater spirit."
767
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:24,000
I don't want to sound harsh, but they all suddenly find God
768
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,000
and, "Now I'm a changed person."
769
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,000
Some of them may have. I don't believe he did.
770
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,000
I would love to think that he's suffering
771
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,000
every minute of his time there.
772
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:40,000
But I also think he should have been eradicated.
773
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,000
You notice, every interview of that son of a gun ...
774
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,000
Never mentions the killings.
775
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:51,000
All he talks about is, "I've changed, I help others."
776
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,000
He doesn't talk about the dead.
777
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,000
He should die right where he is.
778
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,000
That's a terrible thing to say, but that's how I feel about him.
779
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:22,000
♪♪
780
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,000
Interestingly, one other thing found in Berkowitz's apartment
781
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:29,000
was a journal with detailed dates and times of fires ...
782
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,000
Fires that some people believe he set himself.
783
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,000
Was the serial killer also an arsonist?
784
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,000
It's one mystery that we may never know.
785
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,000
Oddly, over time, some people started to believe the "Sam"
786
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,000
in "Son of Sam"
787
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,000
was the name of the dog
788
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,000
that allegedly tormented Berkowitz
789
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,000
and gave him his murderous orders.
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But it was actually the dog's owner, Sam,
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that helped give the serial killer his moniker.
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I'm Donnie Wahlberg.
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Thanks for watching.
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Good night.
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