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AUGUST 1966
THE BEGINNING OF AN EXTRAORDINARY YEAR ...
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It was easy to forget that London had experienced the war 22 years earlier.
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There was this England that we recognize
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thanks to black and white photos and images
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and there was this new era, the multicolored one,
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and the Beatles were at the forefront.
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- Are you looking forward to going on tour?
- Yes.
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This religious controversy,
you don't want to talk about it too much
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but do you worry
in the USA ?
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Yes, that worries me,
but I hope everything will go well.
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Do you think it will be
a controversial tour
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as in the Philippines?
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- No.
- Not really.
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It will be alright.
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- What makes you say that ?
- It will be fine. You will see.
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The Klan, we are going to demonstrate
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in different ways
to end this concert.
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{\ an8} COME HOME
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{\ an8} In front of the Coliseum, a small group of protesters ...
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HUNT
THE COMMUNISM
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{\ an8} ... was the only visible sign.
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Let's not forget that the Beatles were a planetary phenomenon.
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The Beatles were also important a meeting of heads of state
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or state leaders in one room.
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What does it do ?
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You can say "hello"?
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Hello.
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Say hello".
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Hello !
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John, are you sorry
for your words?
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Yes.
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I think it's true.
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{\ an8} This group was much more popular.
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{\ an8} JOURNALIST
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{\ an8} I'm not going to use the two words,
"J.C.",
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{\ an8} but they were much more popular
than the Church of England and religion.
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Without a doubt.
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This is where the trouble started,
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in this tiny studio
on the top floor of WAQY Station,
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the "wacky radio" of 750,000 inhabitants
from Birmingham, Alabama.
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The disc jockey and manager,
Tommy Charles,
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read in Datebook,
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John Lennon's remarks
on Christianity,
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remarks that had gone unnoticed
when they came out in England.
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{\ an8} If we think about it
to the impact of Jesus in the great era,
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{\ an8} 300 people
must have heard of him.
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{\ an8} In terms of industry, even to this day,
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in what it represents for society,
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and especially in Europe,
the Beatles are more important.
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But you know,
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America was, at that time,
obsessed with Jesus.
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JESUS โโIS DEAD FOR YOU,
JOHN LENNON
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Regarding the objective of this meeting,
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I thank God.
Jesus Christ matters to me,
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because he saved me 31 years ago.
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All the people here
for whom it matters, say "Amen".
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Amen!
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{\ an8} They weren't qualified to speak
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{\ an8} of the price of milk,
let alone the state of the world.
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{\ an8} They were sponges.
They absorbed things ...
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{\ an8} BEATLES SPECIALIST
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{\ an8} ... emotions in such a way
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{\ an8} they felt
to age twice as fast.
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{\ an8} I know Brian was worried ...
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{\ an8} SECRETARY OF BRIAN EPSTEIN
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{\ an8} ... before they leave
for the United States.
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But it was so innocent for John.
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They were so large.
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More people wanted to see
the Beatles that go to church.
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Are you worried
of what could happen
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to the Beatles over there?
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{\ an8} AUGUST 1966
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{\ an8} - I'm worried.
- What about ?
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{\ an8} Security.
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{\ an8} What do you suggest to protect them?
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There is not much we can do.
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They have always benefited, in this country,
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maximum security
and tours have always been
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very well organized
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and I hope everything will be fine.
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{\ an8} They burned albums in Memphis ...
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{\ an8} AUTHOR / JOURNALIST
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{\ an8} ... and these singers were afraid
to get killed.
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{\ an8} We say to ourselves: "Something is happening
which escapes me. "
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Most critics
came from the Bible Belt
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and we wonder if you are going
change the Beatles route
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to avoid areas where radios
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burn their albums and photos.
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It's unlikely.
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I met several promoters,
this morning,
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and, after this conference,
I meet others
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who think
that no concert will be canceled.
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In fact, if one of the promoters
was very worried
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and wanted to cancel a concert,
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I would not object.
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Besides, the Memphis concert,
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closest to ...
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from where it all started,
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apparently sold more tickets
yesterday, than he had done to date.
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Tony Barrow alerted Datebook
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of the existence of these interviews.
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{\ an8} He contacted Art Unger, the publisher,
and he said ...
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{\ an8} AUTHOR OF THE BEATLES '66
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{\ an8} ... "You'll love these interviews.
They will please you. "
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But Art Unger had the idea to send them
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to some animators followers of controversies.
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He knew it would annoy some DJs.
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He sent them to these DJs in Birmingham, Alabama
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and it annoyed them well and this is where it all started.
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{\ an8} WASHINGTON DC, AUGUST 15, 1966
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They hate you. Did you see that ?
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I saw a similar version
of what you talk about in the article.
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If it makes other people happy,
so it makes me happy.
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But there are not as many people
upset as I thought.
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And not so upset as that.
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{\ an8} Brian Epstein wanted to cancel the tour,
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{\ an8} but they decided to continue
if John apologized
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{\ an8} and he did so reluctantly.
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{\ an8} Forced apologies.
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{\ an8} In fact, I was referring
to England ...
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{\ an8} CHICAGO, AUGUST 11, 1966
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{\ an8} ... where we count more than Jesus
or religion for children.
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I was not tapping on it
or to belittle it.
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I was just exposing a fact, and that's more
true for England only here.
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I am not saying that we are better
or larger,
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I don't compare us to Jesus Christ
as a person
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or to God as an entity
or whatever it is.
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I said what I said and I was wrong.
Or it has been misinterpreted.
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And George said, "I don't care.
They will buy new albums
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to replace the ones they burned. "
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What do you think
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of this group that gives their point of view?
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Is it possible in their position?
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Absolutely.
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I never suggested to them
to do otherwise.
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Did you suggest John apologize?
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We discussed it
and it was a mutual feeling.
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I never gave orders to boys,
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whether it's musical,
artistic or on positions.
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They...
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We all have our opinion
and I contribute a fifth.
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It happened in the end
of a very long world tour
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where horrible things
had arrived at the Beatles.
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{\ an8} Death threats in Japan, rowdy in the Philippines ...
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{\ an8} BACK FROM THE PHILIPPINES, JULY 1966
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{\ an8} ... for apparently snubbing the First Lady, Imelda Marcos,
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{\ an8} by not going to a ceremony she was giving.
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{\ an8} It was too much.
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{\ an8} WE LOVE YOU LENNON
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{\ an8} They were afraid of being murdered.
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This is what was germinating
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in people's minds.
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What happened
at Manila Airport?
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We were jostled
and heckled by some monkeys
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and we were very scared.
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Really scared?
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We were terrified.
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Yes it was...
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It was serious. There were approximately
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five weird and beefy guys
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with weapons and all the equipment.
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- Who heckled us.
- They were there...
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Yes, it was obvious.
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They were there to make us pass
a dirty quarter of an hour
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before our departure.
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So we hurried.
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Personally, I avoided them.
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They were the only ones
to look for trouble.
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There were five of them.
The rest were calm.
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Did you have to carry your luggage
in the airport ?
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Our hand luggage, yes.
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Our managers took the bags.
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- Because they know ...
- They turned off the escalator
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and we had to wear them.
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- To top it all.
- Very clever.
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How many people were involved?
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About thirty.
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I say 30 and George says five.
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It looked like a small army
who came to beat us.
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There were ten other people
behind the crowd
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who were booing us
and we were looking for them to see them
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and there were only young people
all smiles, about 18.
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All these guys basically like the Gestapo
booing us.
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The real protesters.
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It was an ambush
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where they were just waiting to fight.
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They jostled us.
If we had done something ...
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- That's enough.
- Yes.
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Apart from the Philippines,
did you like this trip?
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Yes, a great tour.
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Except this morning.
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- Yes.
- Japan was wonderful.
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- And Delhi was good.
- Yes.
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Wonderful people in Japan,
all our meetings.
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They took possession of Manila
during the war.
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Will you be playing in the Philippines?
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- No.
- I will never go again.
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I will no longer board a plane
for Manila. Never.
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When they left Manila
for Delhi,
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they spoke for the first time
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to give up touring. Brian was very upset,
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because he saw that it would be useless
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if they just stayed in the studio.
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What would be its place?
It existed mainly in the tours
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to prepare and accompany the Beatles.
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And he liked show biz.
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He loved the theater. He had been to RADA,
so he liked the theatrical side.
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Passing directly from their lodges to the security zone,
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the Beatles appeared for their second concert,
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every step carefully watched by Captain Barney Hicks police,
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82 men working overtime paid 30 shillings an hour.
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There was pure madness and this
for years around the Beatles.
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The most surprising, is that they were playing the game.
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They did what was expected of them.
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When you think temperament and ego
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of today's small rock bands,
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what the Beatles endured
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for the common good, because they were told to do it,
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including John, was extraordinary.
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While the Beatles' private plane is coming ...
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{\ an8} MEMPHIS, AUGUST 19, 1966
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{\ an8} ... it draws away hundreds of fans
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{\ an8} and goes to a deserted area reserved for the National Guard.
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Some teenagers managed to pass the safety cords.
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Worried about their visit to the south,
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the Beatles could at least console themselves with the success of this tour.
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Halfway through the concerts,
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they had already cashed over $ 500,000
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and their latest single "Yellow Submarine" sold for a million.
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Your first trip here?
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No, we have been to Texas before.
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Where are you going next?
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Cincinnati, I believe, yes.
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How long are you staying
in the USA ?
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About two weeks.
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- Two more weeks ?
- Yes.
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What did you eat?
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Not much.
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Not much.
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- I have to go. It's hot.
- Okay. Thank you so much.
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BEATLE STREET
FOUR BOYS WHO MOVE THE WORLD
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They came out of the lodges making the head.
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John said: "We should never have done that.
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{\ an8} - Never. "
- They had two numbers one.
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{\ an8} Return to a tiny club ...
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{\ an8} But they promised to do
another concert. Well, good luck.
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One lodge.
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Big as a phone booth.
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We were in it.
The Beatles too
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and someone else too and ...
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They were not delighted.
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But they held on.
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John was crying with laughter.
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There was a piano on stage with a blanket over it.
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{\ an8} "Why are you laughing?" "King Size Taylor has left his mark."
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{\ an8} The Beatles are mounted,
the girls were screaming
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and, there, power failure.
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Except a very small bulb.
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A small light bulb on the stage,
Do you remember ?
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- Yes.
- No power, nothing at all.
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We all said to ourselves:
"And now ?"
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So, Paul, it looks like him,
jumped on the piano
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and started singing this little
song with John in acoustics.
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We could hear the acoustic guitar a bit.
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For years, it was believed that Paul
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had taken over an old song from his father
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from the 20s, because that was what it reminded us of.
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But when the album came out
Sgt. Pepper ...
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It was incredible.
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We heard this song
in 1963.
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It doesn't matter if people don't like
our albums, our style
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or our words.
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They have the right not to love us
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and we have the right
not to want to rub shoulders with them
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if we don't want to.
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We all have rights.
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Towards the end, it was madness.
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{\ an8} They could be anywhere.
They were in a room ...
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{\ an8} FAN CLUB SECRETARY
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{\ an8} ... and this piece
could be in Wales or Tokyo.
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They didn't know it.
It was just a hotel.
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It's hard to believe but the songs of Revolver
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that could be played
on stage these days,
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they never imagined playing them
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and they played few titles
from Rubber Soul on stage.
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They didn't play anything Revolver
even if it was their last album
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{\ an8} - during their last tour.
- In addition to rock 'n' roll,
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{\ an8} they have developed their own melody
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{\ an8} and they needed to hear
the tangles of songs.
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And when they were playing,
they heard nothing.
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I was in New York for the Yardbirds
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when the biggest tour of the Beatles was in New York.
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Brian was there.
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I did not work with him
but I knew what was going on,
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and Brian and the group wanted
a maximum of 15,000 spectators
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for sound problems. They wanted
be able to play and be heard
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and not be stifled by screams.
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But the police didn't believe it.
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They knew there would be between 100,000 and 200,000 people,
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even if it was a room 10,000 places.
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Very dangerous to have 10,000 people inside and 90,000 outside.
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So it was not a promoter,
of a greedy group or manager.
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It was the police and their authorization.
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They were captive.
Imprisoned by the tour.
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They freed themselves when they returned.
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They went around the world by plane.
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People were screaming.
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They didn't even get along.
They said to themselves:
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"We didn't start this for that.
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We started this for fun.
No more fun. "
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John told me about it in detail
at a dinner in New York in 1980.
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He told me that, when they were playing "Twist and Shout",
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he had changed the words in an insult,
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what he found hilarious.
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First, because it was funny and also because no one heard it.
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The first row was filled
children in wheelchairs.
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John, in particular, was panicked.
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He had a terrible phobia
physical disability
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but these poor children
were taken to their lodges
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after the concert as if they were
saints who could heal people.
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Sometimes worse, some people
grabbed an armchair
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when they did not know the child
to go to the lodges.
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It was a horrible scene
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and they were doing with it. It was amazing.
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They were obedient.
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George said a lot that they weren't progressing musically,
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because they were still progressing playing in front of an audience
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with whom they had an intimate return
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and, to date,
they no longer saw their audience.
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At Candlestick Park,
they were in a cage,
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literally in a cage on stage.
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We are far from the Cavern, right?
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We were working with machines
which regulated the volume, the tone ...
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and the bass, those three buttons.
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We didn't have all these buttons
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and all these computers,
those flashing lights.
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The Beatles contract said
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that the promoter had to provide
two or three microphones
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and adequate lighting.
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Songs like "Eleanor Rigby",
even if they had played them
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would not have had an answer
from the public.
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It was not a song
that makes you jump or dance
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and the critics said
that it was too dark a subject:
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churches, single women, death and all that.
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Not in the Beatles style.
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For a long time, the Beatles were able,
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thanks to their immense popularity
in the whole world
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and especially among young people,
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say what they meant
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without giving importance
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at judgment, at maturity
or the wisdom of the words.
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He is just honest.
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His answers are light
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and his attitude is very strange,
sometimes.
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we never know
whether he is honest or not.
356
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How did this tour, because
of this fuss, is it different?
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Is it?
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Paul?
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Not really.
Itโs just more hectic.
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Press conferences
are a little meaner.
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When we last came, we said
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that our responses were light.
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They are not this time?
364
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Apparently the questions
are more serious this time.
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It had no impact on sales.
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Sales are ...
People who come to concerts
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were the same
except for the Memphis concert
368
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which was a little less full
but whatever...
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There was an interesting change
in the music industry
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in 1966 and 1967.
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It was the beginning of use
of the word "rock".
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Never heard before.
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In 1967, the event of the year
was the Monterey Pop Festival.
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"Pop" was a buzzword
and who was at this festival?
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People we would call
rock stars.
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Little by little, that year,
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the press has started
to use the word "rock"
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and they applied it to all groups
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who did not depend by authors of Tin Pan Alley
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and groups that played their own
music with real musicians.
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Most bands like this
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wanted to give themselves
a reputation as protesters
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letting hair grow
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and the Stones were the first.
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Then the Who knew how to pass from pop to rock.
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Will you iron albums
Beatles?
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The people of Capitol Records
who distribute these albums
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in this country asked me to.
Brian Epstein wanted to know
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when the ban would be lifted,
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because everyone
expect a gesture from us
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and wanted to know what to do.
I have no price.
392
00:20:53,633 --> 00:20:56,567
I don't ask the Beatles anything.
393
00:20:56,633 --> 00:20:57,533
I do not know.
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I want them to make me change my mind
on them.
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I want to see them...
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I do not know,
I want to see them grow a little.
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Disc jockey Tommy Charles
at the origin of this protest said
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that he would no longer play your albums
until you grow up.
399
00:21:14,267 --> 00:21:15,500
What do you think ?
400
00:21:15,567 --> 00:21:17,733
I do not care
that he no longer passes our titles.
401
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,133
Here is the problem :
402
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,033
when we say things like that,
403
00:21:22,333 --> 00:21:23,800
we are accused of being childish.
404
00:21:24,033 --> 00:21:27,167
We don't say something like that
unless you're an idiot child.
405
00:21:27,233 --> 00:21:29,300
Do you feel that the Americans
406
00:21:29,367 --> 00:21:31,800
transform this
in a witch hunt?
407
00:21:32,033 --> 00:21:35,133
Do you agree to talk about Vietnam
in America ?
408
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,800
- Is it really useful?
- I do not know.
409
00:21:37,033 --> 00:21:38,533
If we can say that war is useless
410
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,067
and let a few people believe us,
then it is useful.
411
00:21:41,133 --> 00:21:43,067
But we cannot say it too much.
Pity.
412
00:21:43,133 --> 00:21:44,500
It's stupid to be in America
413
00:21:44,567 --> 00:21:47,367
and not to talk about Vietnam.
414
00:21:47,433 --> 00:21:50,367
But why you?
You are there to entertain us.
415
00:21:50,433 --> 00:21:54,233
Americans always ask
to the stars what they think.
416
00:21:54,300 --> 00:21:55,533
Like the English.
417
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,167
It's show biz.
418
00:21:57,467 --> 00:22:00,233
You can't shut up
on what's going on
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in the world
unless you are a monk.
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My apologies to the monks!
But I think so ...
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{\ an8} They took the reins
of what had already started ...
422
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{\ an8} SISTER OF JOHN LENNON
423
00:22:11,700 --> 00:22:16,433
{\ an8} ... the adolescent revolution
as a full human being.
424
00:22:16,500 --> 00:22:20,200
The Swinging London was a huge movement.
425
00:22:20,267 --> 00:22:22,000
Based on the counter-culture:
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00:22:22,067 --> 00:22:25,733
everyone had long hair, beards and mustaches
427
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,367
and everything else. They were going to the UFO Club and other places like that.
428
00:22:29,433 --> 00:22:32,333
All the psychedelic stuff with the Pink Floyd.
429
00:22:32,500 --> 00:22:35,767
There were mini skirts, new trends, boutiques
430
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,400
and everything else and it was changing all the time.
431
00:22:39,467 --> 00:22:41,533
I was a model for Foale and Tuffin
432
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,533
{\ an8} but we also had a store
and, when I was not wearing the clothes ...
433
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:46,467
{\ an8} SISTER OF PATTI BOYD
434
00:22:46,533 --> 00:22:47,800
{\ an8} ... I worked there
435
00:22:48,033 --> 00:22:51,000
{\ an8} and the boys from the shops
from Carnaby Street came
436
00:22:51,067 --> 00:22:53,367
and we shared the albums.
437
00:22:53,433 --> 00:22:56,533
We were not interested to music and style.
438
00:22:57,067 --> 00:23:00,400
It all started when Paul had his motorcycle accident
439
00:23:00,733 --> 00:23:03,767
and broke the front tooth and opened her lip
440
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:09,067
the day before the clips were filmed from "Rain" and "Paperback Writer".
441
00:23:09,667 --> 00:23:13,667
He let his mustache grow
not to be embarrassed
442
00:23:13,733 --> 00:23:15,467
by his broken tooth.
443
00:23:17,100 --> 00:23:19,700
He didn't think about going to the dentist.
444
00:23:19,767 --> 00:23:22,267
He used chewing gum
to hide it
445
00:23:22,633 --> 00:23:27,500
and he let his mustache grow
to cover his war wound.
446
00:23:28,433 --> 00:23:31,267
The others thought it was cool
447
00:23:31,333 --> 00:23:33,033
and they did the same.
448
00:23:33,467 --> 00:23:37,667
Suddenly, the whiskers and stuff like that,
449
00:23:38,133 --> 00:23:41,000
drugs and a different vision of the world ...
450
00:23:41,433 --> 00:23:43,633
Everything you do
as a musician,
451
00:23:43,700 --> 00:23:47,167
it comes out in your songs,
in one way or another.
452
00:23:47,567 --> 00:23:49,767
There is always a link with your experience.
453
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,800
We were smoking weed at the time
454
00:23:52,367 --> 00:23:54,433
and it changes your perception.
455
00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:58,267
It makes it fall
a number of walls.
456
00:23:58,533 --> 00:24:01,233
We protested against the state
457
00:24:01,733 --> 00:24:04,167
and we stayed in touch with our creativity.
458
00:24:04,500 --> 00:24:07,567
They were constantly trying to detach from this image
459
00:24:07,633 --> 00:24:09,033
of the four well-groomed fluff.
460
00:24:09,300 --> 00:24:11,767
It was one of the reasons behind all this:
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00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,600
to be different, to dress differently,
look like adults.
462
00:24:15,700 --> 00:24:17,767
Will the Beatles split up?
463
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,000
Absolutely not.
464
00:24:19,367 --> 00:24:22,000
In the article of the day, is it true
465
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that they plan to separate?
466
00:24:24,067 --> 00:24:25,100
Not at all.
467
00:24:25,467 --> 00:24:27,600
Why is there not
of planned tours
468
00:24:27,667 --> 00:24:29,667
for Christmas and America
next year ?
469
00:24:29,733 --> 00:24:32,333
They are involved in several projects.
470
00:24:32,733 --> 00:24:34,467
John Lennon is making a film.
471
00:24:35,433 --> 00:24:39,333
Paul writes music
for a new Hayley Mills film.
472
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:40,467
And...
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00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:42,467
I do not...
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They will be in this country
475
00:24:44,533 --> 00:24:46,800
at the end of December ...
November.
476
00:24:47,167 --> 00:24:49,567
They will record other albums and ...
477
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,733
They are working on the next film.
478
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,700
Will there be any changes
in their work ?
479
00:24:56,767 --> 00:24:58,467
Will there be fewer tours?
480
00:25:00,767 --> 00:25:01,633
It's possible.
481
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,733
As I have said,
there will be no significant changes
482
00:25:07,100 --> 00:25:09,767
but the Beatles have always progressed
483
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,633
and to progress, you have to change.
484
00:25:12,133 --> 00:25:16,033
They had a nice antenna.
They could bounce back quickly.
485
00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:17,733
It's a way of doing things
486
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,167
and it was part of their education.
487
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:21,267
And they were ...
488
00:25:21,700 --> 00:25:23,000
They were...
489
00:25:23,467 --> 00:25:26,533
Apart from "Penny Lane"
and "Strawberry Fields",
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they did not get caught
for Americans.
491
00:25:28,667 --> 00:25:31,167
They were no longer pseudo-Americans.
492
00:25:31,233 --> 00:25:33,533
They did not have an American accent.
493
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,233
Paul's father said:
"Why say 'yeah'?
494
00:25:36,300 --> 00:25:37,433
Why not 'yes'? "
495
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,433
They used their own culture,
496
00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,700
what is interesting
and "Penny Lane" is ...
497
00:25:44,767 --> 00:25:46,733
These are two fantastic songs.
498
00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:50,667
In fact, the real tragedy of Sgt. Pepper,
499
00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:53,467
is that these songs are not there.
500
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PENNY LANE
BARBER
501
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It would have been a fantastic album. They should have
502
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,000
add them by saying: "Two songs from before."
503
00:26:01,067 --> 00:26:03,133
And these are the best.
504
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,267
"Penny Lane"
and "Strawberry Fields Forever".
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00:26:05,333 --> 00:26:10,700
A very specific: the very precise image
by Paul McCartney on the 1950s
506
00:26:10,767 --> 00:26:13,533
in a district of Liverpool
that they knew well.
507
00:26:14,433 --> 00:26:18,167
Another slightly more surreal
from John
508
00:26:18,667 --> 00:26:21,533
but which gives an impression
likelihood.
509
00:26:21,733 --> 00:26:26,367
John's surreal vision
from a place he knew as a child.
510
00:26:26,733 --> 00:26:28,467
{\ an8} When they stopped touring ...
511
00:26:28,533 --> 00:26:29,433
{\ an8} OFFICIAL BIOGRAPHER
512
00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:31,600
{\ an8} ... they were responsible for themselves.
513
00:26:31,767 --> 00:26:34,567
{\ an8} They did Sgt. Pepper in their own way
514
00:26:34,733 --> 00:26:39,467
and they started to ignore
Brian Epstein who no longer controlled them.
515
00:26:39,667 --> 00:26:42,000
They started to work with George Martin.
516
00:26:42,233 --> 00:26:44,333
George looked after technical aspects.
517
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,600
He gave his opinion but they did what they wanted.
518
00:26:48,067 --> 00:26:51,100
George Martin said it very quickly.
519
00:26:51,267 --> 00:26:54,700
When the tours ended,
Brian felt helpless.
520
00:26:54,767 --> 00:26:57,433
On tour,
he didn't do much.
521
00:26:57,500 --> 00:27:00,667
He was with them. Everything was organized
522
00:27:00,733 --> 00:27:02,167
by the local promoter
523
00:27:02,333 --> 00:27:04,167
but he was traveling with them.
524
00:27:04,233 --> 00:27:06,067
He had the impression
to be part of the group.
525
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,600
After that, he couldn't find his place
526
00:27:08,667 --> 00:27:10,433
in the studio.
527
00:27:10,500 --> 00:27:13,167
He never helped create a song.
528
00:27:13,233 --> 00:27:14,400
He was not George Martin
529
00:27:14,467 --> 00:27:18,333
and he felt completely neglected
at once.
530
00:27:19,067 --> 00:27:20,033
And that wiped it out.
531
00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:23,267
He started taking more drugs,
to play more
532
00:27:24,033 --> 00:27:27,667
and he felt that their relationship
533
00:27:27,733 --> 00:27:29,600
had been deeply damaged.
534
00:27:29,667 --> 00:27:33,333
Brianโs role, like theirs,
had changed
535
00:27:33,500 --> 00:27:38,633
but for me,
he will always be the fifth Beatle.
536
00:27:39,367 --> 00:27:42,300
He drove them from the Cavern
to world scenes.
537
00:27:42,667 --> 00:27:45,333
In early 1967, as they ...
538
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,000
As they had made pieces
played during the rave at Roundhouse,
539
00:27:50,367 --> 00:27:52,567
and, as far as I know,
540
00:27:52,633 --> 00:27:55,033
only Mark Lewisohn heard them
541
00:27:55,100 --> 00:27:57,633
but apparently
they just hit
542
00:27:57,700 --> 00:28:01,533
loudly ...
a kind of tin can,
543
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,433
a table, anything in the studio
for seven minutes ...
544
00:28:06,533 --> 00:28:09,333
There was this idea
that everything they did,
545
00:28:09,500 --> 00:28:11,500
especially when it wasnโt forced,
546
00:28:11,567 --> 00:28:14,167
was worth gold, artistically speaking,
547
00:28:14,233 --> 00:28:15,767
but this was not always the case.
548
00:28:16,167 --> 00:28:18,733
Just a problem.
They said to themselves, "Now what?"
549
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,167
They had been better group
on tour, best pop group.
550
00:28:22,233 --> 00:28:25,133
They had written
the biggest songs,
551
00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,100
still leading the charts.
552
00:28:27,167 --> 00:28:28,500
Where to go now?
553
00:28:28,567 --> 00:28:31,400
The only way to progress,
is to make great art.
554
00:28:31,467 --> 00:28:34,233
"We have to experience something else, go higher.
555
00:28:34,300 --> 00:28:36,167
If we can't become a rock band,
556
00:28:36,233 --> 00:28:38,800
we could make pop a great art,
557
00:28:39,033 --> 00:28:40,633
great music, a big painting. "
558
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,033
This is what they must have said to each other.
559
00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:44,733
"No need to do anything else.
560
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,533
No need to release a new one Revolver
full of pop.
561
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,067
We have to do something breathtaking. "
562
00:28:50,133 --> 00:28:51,300
And they did.
563
00:28:51,700 --> 00:28:54,600
I listened to "Strawberry Fields"
and I was amazed.
564
00:28:55,500 --> 00:28:58,133
And I told my editor.
565
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,500
The Beatles are still progressing
566
00:29:00,733 --> 00:29:02,400
and I thought it was incredible.
567
00:29:02,467 --> 00:29:05,767
A huge jump
from "Love Me Do" or something else.
568
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,033
No one could say
569
00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:11,767
if "Penny Lane" were to pass "Strawberry Fields" but it was likely,
570
00:29:12,167 --> 00:29:15,633
because John had taken the plunge in writing a title on Liverpool and Paul ...
571
00:29:16,233 --> 00:29:19,567
There was a magnificent
competitive spirit between John and Paul.
572
00:29:20,367 --> 00:29:22,167
They were pulling themselves up.
573
00:29:22,233 --> 00:29:24,300
In all friendship, they said to themselves:
574
00:29:24,367 --> 00:29:26,367
"I want to have the A side of the single."
575
00:29:26,533 --> 00:29:29,200
Or "He did that. I'm going to do that."
It was fantastic.
576
00:29:29,267 --> 00:29:32,000
Without any animosity ...
577
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,700
They were trying to be the best.
578
00:29:33,767 --> 00:29:37,533
The plan was to start over
and write a whole album on Liverpool.
579
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,467
They had considered
to do something,
580
00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:44,233
maybe an album related to Liverpool.
581
00:29:45,233 --> 00:29:49,533
Of course, they had "Penny Lane"
in reserve and "Strawberry Fields"
582
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,633
and "A Day in the Life".
583
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,400
And George Martin said:
584
00:29:56,467 --> 00:29:58,433
"You are silent
for too long."
585
00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:00,067
They gave him that
586
00:30:00,133 --> 00:30:02,233
insisting on having a double face A.
587
00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:05,500
As a double face A, it divided the sales
588
00:30:05,567 --> 00:30:07,433
and they were only number two.
589
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,467
Meanwhile, in Liverpool,
590
00:30:10,533 --> 00:30:12,467
there was a group, the Hillsiders,
591
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,100
and the manager, Spencer Lloyd Mason,
592
00:30:15,533 --> 00:30:20,067
had noticed that one of the members had found a fabulous title
593
00:30:20,133 --> 00:30:21,567
that they wanted to record.
594
00:30:21,633 --> 00:30:26,333
They sent it to their manager AandR
at Decca, Noel Walker,
595
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,467
who also came from Merseyside,
and said:
596
00:30:28,533 --> 00:30:31,200
"We want to record this
with an orchestra. "
597
00:30:31,267 --> 00:30:33,167
It was a title called "Release Me".
598
00:30:33,367 --> 00:30:35,700
Instead of saving it
with the Hillsiders,
599
00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:39,267
he passed the title on to someone
for whom it was the ideal title,
600
00:30:39,333 --> 00:30:40,633
at Engelbert Humperdinck
601
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,000
and it became number one
602
00:30:43,067 --> 00:30:45,200
and he prevented the Beatles
to be in the lead
603
00:30:45,267 --> 00:30:47,367
for the first time
from several albums.
604
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,567
The fault of a group from Liverpool.
605
00:30:49,633 --> 00:30:52,467
The Liverpool themed album,
606
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,033
there was enough with
"Strawberry Fields" and "Penny Lane"
607
00:30:56,333 --> 00:30:58,000
for more than one album.
608
00:30:58,167 --> 00:30:59,633
They did it with a single.
609
00:30:59,700 --> 00:31:03,200
They did it in a magnificent single double-sided A.
610
00:31:03,267 --> 00:31:05,567
{\ an8} ABBEY ROAD STUDIOS
DECEMBER 1966
611
00:31:05,633 --> 00:31:07,533
{\ an8} - A word, please?
- Yes.
612
00:31:08,467 --> 00:31:11,267
{\ an8} Will the Beatles split in 1967?
613
00:31:11,767 --> 00:31:14,367
They can work
solo or together.
614
00:31:14,433 --> 00:31:16,767
We are linked to each other
whatever we do.
615
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,267
Is there a moment
where you haven't worked together?
616
00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:23,300
It happened during a period
617
00:31:23,367 --> 00:31:25,800
but we end
always by coming together.
618
00:31:26,033 --> 00:31:29,000
You need others
to get ideas
619
00:31:29,567 --> 00:31:31,800
and we get along very well.
620
00:31:32,033 --> 00:31:35,300
Are you going to make movies
on your side next year?
621
00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:39,367
I don't want to make a career out of it.
I did it because I liked it
622
00:31:39,433 --> 00:31:43,133
and that I accepted
Dick Lester's proposal.
623
00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:46,267
I would not have done it
if it hadn't pleased others.
624
00:31:46,333 --> 00:31:48,400
They said, "Okay."
We were on vacation.
625
00:31:48,467 --> 00:31:50,600
Do others have this kind of ambition?
626
00:31:50,733 --> 00:31:52,700
No, nobody is really interested.
627
00:31:52,767 --> 00:31:54,200
I am not so interested.
628
00:31:54,267 --> 00:31:56,333
- What do you want to do ?
- No idea.
629
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,500
I want to do a few things.
630
00:31:58,667 --> 00:32:00,667
You haven't decided what yet?
631
00:32:01,133 --> 00:32:02,467
I will try several things
632
00:32:02,533 --> 00:32:07,000
but I learned more about the movies
by doing this.
633
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,700
Collaborating to write,
634
00:32:09,767 --> 00:32:11,567
you will continue?
635
00:32:11,633 --> 00:32:15,133
Yes, we will continue to write
all of our lives,
636
00:32:15,367 --> 00:32:18,300
whatever happens,
because you can't stop.
637
00:32:18,367 --> 00:32:21,333
We end up writing,
whether we want it or not.
638
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,700
Do you think the tours,
like those in America
639
00:32:23,767 --> 00:32:26,000
or the one in England, the fans ...
640
00:32:26,067 --> 00:32:29,700
There comes a time when it doesn't work anymore,
641
00:32:29,767 --> 00:32:33,500
because it no longer fits
to our recordings or our films.
642
00:32:33,567 --> 00:32:36,667
They knew they were taking
big risks in 1966 and 1967.
643
00:32:36,733 --> 00:32:39,300
They did not know
if people would follow them,
644
00:32:39,667 --> 00:32:42,500
if it would work
and they calculated:
645
00:32:42,567 --> 00:32:44,733
"We risk losing
a big market share.
646
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,233
We are too daring. "
647
00:32:46,300 --> 00:32:48,533
HOW I WON THE WAR
648
00:33:11,333 --> 00:33:13,400
Then they decided it would become
649
00:33:13,467 --> 00:33:16,400
what's called a concept album
650
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,400
like Frank Zappa had made one, Freak Out,
651
00:33:19,467 --> 00:33:22,100
and McCartney was enthusiastic to this idea.
652
00:33:22,167 --> 00:33:26,033
As Ringo said later,
they made two other pieces
653
00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:28,533
and they said to themselves:
"Forget the concept album.
654
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:29,600
Let's make other pieces. "
655
00:33:30,267 --> 00:33:34,233
But, of course,
they have been strangely articulated.
656
00:33:34,300 --> 00:33:38,500
It was a mix of Beatles adventurers
657
00:33:38,567 --> 00:33:40,567
and sentimental at the same time.
658
00:33:40,633 --> 00:33:42,767
These different elements are in the album.
659
00:33:43,167 --> 00:33:47,067
And John, weirdly, is the one who associated them
660
00:33:47,133 --> 00:33:50,000
not only with his masterpiece ...
661
00:33:50,167 --> 00:33:51,800
His masterpiece "A Day in the Life"
662
00:33:52,433 --> 00:33:55,533
but he also provided small pieces
663
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,667
who seem to be part from "A Day in the Life"
664
00:33:57,733 --> 00:34:00,133
and Paul's "Lovely Rita".
665
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,233
So, that sounds like a concept
666
00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:06,233
even if they didn't think
make a concept album.
667
00:34:06,300 --> 00:34:07,500
- Paul.
- Yes ?
668
00:34:07,567 --> 00:34:08,767
- Good evening.
- Good evening.
669
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,367
- Don Edwards, ITN.
- It's okay ?
670
00:34:10,433 --> 00:34:13,433
A word ? Stop touring,
do you worry?
671
00:34:15,167 --> 00:34:16,033
I do not know.
672
00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:17,633
- I do not think so.
- Really ?
673
00:34:17,700 --> 00:34:22,733
In fact, for us, it's a performance
674
00:34:23,467 --> 00:34:26,200
and this performance has declined.
675
00:34:26,267 --> 00:34:28,200
We are not progressing
if nobody hears us.
676
00:34:28,267 --> 00:34:29,733
You understand ? So, for us,
677
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,733
giving a concert is difficult.
More and more each time.
678
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,767
They don't listen to you
then you want to stop.
679
00:34:36,133 --> 00:34:38,733
We want to continue
but if we are not listened to
680
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,667
and if we don't get along,
681
00:34:40,733 --> 00:34:43,633
we cannot improve,
you can't get better.
682
00:34:44,367 --> 00:34:47,333
We try to improve with others
things like recording.
683
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,500
It took months and months
and an astronomical sum.
684
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,233
Again, that was part ...
685
00:34:53,300 --> 00:34:58,033
It wasn't just Sgt. Pepper.
The other great albums of the time
686
00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:01,367
turned the market upside down saying that
687
00:35:01,433 --> 00:35:03,433
the single was the only thing that mattered
688
00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:06,500
and then the album served as a backdrop.
689
00:35:06,567 --> 00:35:08,800
There was the single
and a few things
690
00:35:09,033 --> 00:35:11,700
with the name of the single
like Please Please Me.
691
00:35:11,767 --> 00:35:14,433
At the moment,
the album started to become
692
00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:19,333
the point of concentration
groups and pop groups.
693
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,200
They were making albums and singles were born from it.
694
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,333
- Hello.
- Merry Christmas !
695
00:35:24,567 --> 00:35:25,800
- It's okay ?
- Good.
696
00:35:26,033 --> 00:35:27,600
- Some questions ?
- Yes.
697
00:35:27,667 --> 00:35:29,333
- This side.
- Which side ?
698
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,533
- This one.
- Good evening.
699
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,500
- You are very handsome.
- Thank you. I took a bath.
700
00:35:33,567 --> 00:35:37,400
Why are the Beatles going
less work together this year?
701
00:35:39,067 --> 00:35:40,333
We don't ...
702
00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:43,333
If we do things together,
every four,
703
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,000
it will be as usual.
704
00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:49,700
- You don't want to?
- We don't want to redo what we did.
705
00:35:50,067 --> 00:35:52,433
With the film,
706
00:35:52,500 --> 00:35:55,467
there is no decent script
or weโre looking for one.
707
00:35:56,467 --> 00:35:57,400
If we don't succeed,
708
00:35:57,467 --> 00:36:00,233
we will do something different.
709
00:36:00,300 --> 00:36:02,133
- Alone ?
- Yes, but...
710
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,600
It is not a separation.
We will always meet again.
711
00:36:06,233 --> 00:36:08,100
- Thank you very much.
- Thank you.
712
00:36:08,167 --> 00:36:10,800
- You will work ?
- It depends on the others.
713
00:36:11,267 --> 00:36:13,700
It's tea time, I hope.
714
00:36:14,167 --> 00:36:17,700
Paul had started to work on the idea of โโa ghost group.
715
00:36:18,300 --> 00:36:21,800
It consists of inventing a group:
"We are this group.
716
00:36:22,033 --> 00:36:23,200
And not the Beatles. "
717
00:36:25,033 --> 00:36:26,267
How are you ?
718
00:36:26,333 --> 00:36:27,667
- I...
- A word ?
719
00:36:27,733 --> 00:36:29,800
- Yes.
- Just a question :
720
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,667
do you think that this year
721
00:36:31,733 --> 00:36:33,733
are you going to separate?
722
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,600
- No.
- No ?
723
00:36:35,667 --> 00:36:37,133
No. Not at all.
724
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,300
And another word?
725
00:36:39,633 --> 00:36:41,200
These are already your words.
726
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,533
They were tired of being the Beatles.
727
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:45,700
They were not tired
728
00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:48,100
to exist as a Beatles
729
00:36:48,167 --> 00:36:51,400
but the name "Beatles"
was starting to oppress them
730
00:36:51,467 --> 00:36:54,367
and they had the idea
to create an alter ego
731
00:36:54,433 --> 00:36:56,467
who would be called Sgt. Pepper
732
00:36:56,533 --> 00:36:59,667
and that matched the trend
military tunics.
733
00:36:59,733 --> 00:37:01,700
It was in the mid-1960s.
734
00:37:02,133 --> 00:37:03,433
If you look closely,
735
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,700
there is a photo of Paul's father,
Jim McCartney,
736
00:37:07,767 --> 00:37:11,333
who had a small group in the 20-30s in Liverpool.
737
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,000
He played the piano by ear in the Jim Mac Jazz Band.
738
00:37:15,067 --> 00:37:17,800
There is a photo of them at the end of the 1920s
739
00:37:18,167 --> 00:37:20,733
and they surrounded a bass drum
740
00:37:21,100 --> 00:37:24,233
and it sounds like the concept of Sgt. Pepper,
741
00:37:25,133 --> 00:37:26,000
without marijuana.
742
00:37:27,267 --> 00:37:33,367
They became the precursors of a
joke in the world of rock 'n' roll.
743
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,433
How long can we spend
in a studio for a project
744
00:37:36,633 --> 00:37:38,133
and how much can we spend?
745
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,533
The Beatles were in the studio
for Sgt. Pepper
746
00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:46,533
and everyone said:
"It must be super exciting."
747
00:37:47,300 --> 00:37:52,000
The most boring period
in all my life.
748
00:37:52,667 --> 00:37:57,600
We used to record in a few days, sometimes a week.
749
00:37:58,333 --> 00:38:00,233
Revolver took a few weeks
750
00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:03,633
but Sgt. Pepper dragged on,
751
00:38:04,233 --> 00:38:06,000
because they hadn't written it together.
752
00:38:07,033 --> 00:38:10,767
The only one who was prepared
for the studio, it was Paul.
753
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,267
When they were in the studio,
no woman was allowed,
754
00:38:14,333 --> 00:38:15,767
not even the wives.
755
00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:17,567
You know, they ...
756
00:38:17,633 --> 00:38:20,767
Even during tours.
It was like that.
757
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,300
The boys were leaving.
758
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,667
I think it's Chris O'Dell
who had the guts to say:
759
00:38:26,733 --> 00:38:28,367
"Can I come to a session?"
760
00:38:28,633 --> 00:38:30,400
We never imagined
761
00:38:30,467 --> 00:38:33,300
be able to attend a recording.
762
00:38:33,367 --> 00:38:37,100
People wonder why groups
have more time to record.
763
00:38:37,167 --> 00:38:39,233
It's not
record label money.
764
00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:42,767
An advance on the group's royalties.
So the record company doesn't care.
765
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,000
Often, the record company worries.
"We give them time.
766
00:38:46,067 --> 00:38:48,200
If they don't make a tube,
we will pay for them. "
767
00:38:48,267 --> 00:38:51,167
A successful group, we give them
all the time they want.
768
00:38:51,233 --> 00:38:53,267
They pay.
It's taken from their royalties.
769
00:38:53,333 --> 00:38:55,233
It is not explained to the groups.
770
00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:57,700
They think to use record label money
771
00:38:57,767 --> 00:39:00,733
and, meanwhile, they have enough money
772
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,467
to buy drugs and do stuff in the studio
773
00:39:03,533 --> 00:39:08,167
that don't make them move very quickly and the recordings are lying around.
774
00:39:08,233 --> 00:39:09,700
Paul was leading the boat.
775
00:39:10,333 --> 00:39:13,600
George and John took care of it
when it was
776
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:17,367
of their compositions
but it was Paul at the helm.
777
00:39:18,533 --> 00:39:21,033
He said, "Like that." And they were doing
778
00:39:21,100 --> 00:39:23,667
dozens and dozens of takes
779
00:39:23,733 --> 00:39:26,467
and I thought:
"It was good the first time.
780
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,667
Why didn't they take it?
I would like to go back. "
781
00:39:29,733 --> 00:39:31,767
Even experienced engineers
782
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,733
were surprised
by the Beatles' demands.
783
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,567
Nobody had ever done that.
784
00:39:38,733 --> 00:39:42,267
In a sense, Abbey Road was
a blessing for them.
785
00:39:42,333 --> 00:39:46,033
They were enthusiastic
and teeming with ideas
786
00:39:46,433 --> 00:39:49,400
and these are the best times
of life,
787
00:39:49,467 --> 00:39:52,533
in my twenties.
They could do whatever they wanted.
788
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,033
They had the nerve to say: "We want to do things."
789
00:39:56,100 --> 00:39:58,433
The first time they came,
790
00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:01,167
they had gone through the entrance on the side. There, in front.
791
00:40:01,233 --> 00:40:03,400
"Whatever you want to do, we are following you. "
792
00:40:03,467 --> 00:40:06,800
The Beatles tore to pieces what we took for granted
793
00:40:07,033 --> 00:40:08,800
like spending three months in the studio.
794
00:40:09,033 --> 00:40:12,367
We don't tick when U2 goes by two years making an album.
795
00:40:12,433 --> 00:40:14,167
The Beatles were the first.
796
00:40:14,233 --> 00:40:17,400
The Beatles were the first
to make such an ambitious album,
797
00:40:17,467 --> 00:40:20,800
an album far from pop albums,
798
00:40:21,033 --> 00:40:24,233
not just pieces
to dance or listen in the car.
799
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,767
{\ an8} I think John was a genius.
800
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,500
{\ an8} There is no doubt about it.
801
00:40:29,567 --> 00:40:31,100
{\ an8} ON THE ROAD TO GREECE
JULY 1967
802
00:40:31,167 --> 00:40:33,367
{\ an8} How many geniuses can there be in a group?
803
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:39,700
But, without Paul, I don't think John
would have done what he did with his life.
804
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,433
I called them the dream team.
805
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,233
Paul had lost his mother
at the age of 14.
806
00:40:45,300 --> 00:40:47,533
He spent a lot of time
with us.
807
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,233
My mother said, ironically:
808
00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:51,433
"Poor boy, he lost his mother."
809
00:40:54,100 --> 00:40:56,600
When our mother died,
810
00:40:57,233 --> 00:41:02,667
a real link
instantly woven between them
811
00:41:03,133 --> 00:41:07,133
and I think this relationship
was the basis of the Beatles.
812
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,400
John had that reputation.
813
00:41:11,267 --> 00:41:12,133
THE DISSENTORS
814
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,467
He was the one who attracted others, because he had a bitter mind
815
00:41:15,533 --> 00:41:18,667
and he had a rebellious side
816
00:41:18,733 --> 00:41:21,233
which doesn't matter much.
817
00:41:22,067 --> 00:41:25,333
Paul was very polite
818
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,533
and people are usually
attracted to the rebel,
819
00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:32,500
as I immediately was. That's what drew me to his place.
820
00:41:32,567 --> 00:41:35,567
Paul was an avant-garde.
It was very important.
821
00:41:35,633 --> 00:41:39,133
No idea was too far-fetched for him
822
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,633
and he read a lot,
823
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,167
went to exhibitions,
824
00:41:43,233 --> 00:41:45,700
listened to avant-garde composers
825
00:41:46,133 --> 00:41:50,267
and developed along this path very significantly.
826
00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:51,367
John ...
827
00:41:52,533 --> 00:41:55,067
John read a lot
and wrote a lot of songs
828
00:41:55,133 --> 00:41:57,733
home because he had
family responsibilities.
829
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,533
Paul was ahead of him in exploring London,
830
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,233
in the forefront, in the underground movement.
831
00:42:03,567 --> 00:42:04,433
John was ...
832
00:42:04,667 --> 00:42:06,300
He liked it but he didn't ...
833
00:42:06,367 --> 00:42:10,167
He was not daring enough
to do it himself.
834
00:42:10,233 --> 00:42:12,500
But, in November, he meets Yoko Ono
835
00:42:12,567 --> 00:42:15,100
{\ an8} at the opening of a gallery ...
836
00:42:15,167 --> 00:42:16,467
{\ an8} YOKO ONO, LONDON, AUGUST 1966
837
00:42:16,533 --> 00:42:18,767
{\ an8} ... and we know where it got him.
838
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,167
{\ an8} One of the great myths
839
00:42:20,233 --> 00:42:22,467
{\ an8} annoying Paul McCartney
still today,
840
00:42:22,533 --> 00:42:24,500
because it tends to be tenacious,
841
00:42:24,667 --> 00:42:27,667
is that John was hungry for experiences.
842
00:42:27,733 --> 00:42:32,267
And that Paul was a brave slipper
who was not taking a risk.
843
00:42:33,267 --> 00:42:34,367
It is not true.
844
00:42:35,033 --> 00:42:37,067
As Tony Bramwell said,
845
00:42:37,133 --> 00:42:41,167
John was a big slacker who was staying in his suburban lodge.
846
00:42:41,567 --> 00:42:43,233
Paul lived in the heart of London.
847
00:42:43,300 --> 00:42:46,067
Paul has always sought to improve.
848
00:42:46,133 --> 00:42:50,000
He bought books on modern art when he was 13
849
00:42:50,067 --> 00:42:53,433
and he was interested in the whole avant-garde
from London
850
00:42:53,500 --> 00:42:58,333
and especially to complex music,
brave and very contemporary,
851
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,800
nothing to do with pop,
like John Cage,
852
00:43:01,033 --> 00:43:03,000
Luciano Berio and the others.
853
00:43:03,067 --> 00:43:04,267
He knew all this.
854
00:43:04,333 --> 00:43:05,700
Endless soundtracks.
855
00:43:06,100 --> 00:43:07,067
Paul was a leader.
856
00:43:07,133 --> 00:43:09,533
There was a bookstore and a gallery
857
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,733
and Paul had given the order that we send him all the news
858
00:43:14,167 --> 00:43:15,767
and then he talked to John about it.
859
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,200
So Paul was talking to John about it:
860
00:43:18,267 --> 00:43:21,700
"Relax, turn off your mind
and let yourself be carried by the current. "
861
00:43:21,767 --> 00:43:26,067
John read the book
and he wrote "Tomorrow Never Knows"
862
00:43:26,133 --> 00:43:28,367
and John was the avant-garde.
863
00:43:28,733 --> 00:43:32,167
They were more involved
in modern art
864
00:43:32,667 --> 00:43:38,133
and in modern classical music
than they let it appear.
865
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,200
Remember they were in high school.
866
00:43:41,033 --> 00:43:45,600
And, for its part,
John went to art school.
867
00:43:46,267 --> 00:43:50,300
Unlike other rock stars ...
868
00:43:50,367 --> 00:43:52,333
I have to choose the names ...
869
00:43:52,533 --> 00:43:56,233
... who left school at 15
and barely knew how to read and write.
870
00:43:56,500 --> 00:44:00,133
The Beatles, apart from Ringo
who never went to school ...
871
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,800
The Beatles were high school kids
who had read Shakespeare in class,
872
00:44:04,033 --> 00:44:07,067
who had read novels
and poems.
873
00:44:07,767 --> 00:44:12,333
John and George lived in the countryside.
874
00:44:13,167 --> 00:44:15,567
Paul lived in the heart of London.
875
00:44:17,267 --> 00:44:20,267
They no longer passed all their time together.
876
00:44:20,467 --> 00:44:25,100
Until 1966, they were still with each other.
877
00:44:25,167 --> 00:44:28,133
They were that four-headed hydra.
878
00:44:30,033 --> 00:44:31,633
They were never seen alone.
879
00:44:31,700 --> 00:44:34,233
Paul was the most musical
880
00:44:34,433 --> 00:44:35,600
and trained John.
881
00:44:36,467 --> 00:44:39,667
So it was much more nuanced than that.
882
00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:44,100
The idea that Paul was a straight man
883
00:44:44,367 --> 00:44:46,133
in charge of press relations,
884
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,633
this was partly true,
885
00:44:48,267 --> 00:44:51,233
but he was also extremely gifted.
886
00:44:52,033 --> 00:44:55,200
There were rumbles ...
887
00:44:56,367 --> 00:44:59,500
different music
who came back from before,
888
00:44:59,567 --> 00:45:00,767
who came back from Revolver.
889
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,400
The wait was high
for Rubber Soul and Revolver
890
00:45:03,467 --> 00:45:06,733
but it was at its peak
for Sgt. Pepper.
891
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,133
Largely because of the weather spent in the studio.
892
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,133
It was constantly highlighted in the articles:
893
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,800
all the money spent, the time it took.
894
00:45:16,033 --> 00:45:20,067
There were these four geniuses
with George Martin.
895
00:45:20,133 --> 00:45:23,533
If they spent that much time
on something, it was going to be amazing,
896
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,600
because it couldn't be otherwise.
897
00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:32,033
{\ an8} SGT PEPPER EXHIBITION
THE HISTORY OF BEATLES
898
00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:35,200
{\ an8} We have to come back at the time of its release.
899
00:45:36,033 --> 00:45:38,600
People have no idea of โโthe difficulties.
900
00:45:38,667 --> 00:45:42,267
It has been done
with a four track recorder.
901
00:45:42,333 --> 00:45:45,233
George Martin said it was very difficult.
902
00:45:45,300 --> 00:45:49,100
Nowadays, we see
all the studios can do
903
00:45:49,167 --> 00:45:54,567
and yet this album, designed with a
four track recorder, remains magic.
904
00:45:54,633 --> 00:45:58,033
I remember the day they decided
words on the cover.
905
00:45:58,100 --> 00:46:02,033
For all albums released before,
906
00:46:02,233 --> 00:46:04,500
we had exchanged sharply
on words.
907
00:46:05,033 --> 00:46:06,500
We did not know...
908
00:46:07,133 --> 00:46:10,200
One of the great joys brought
by the Beatles,
909
00:46:10,633 --> 00:46:11,800
it's their Liverpool accent.
910
00:46:12,033 --> 00:46:13,733
A great story for me ...
911
00:46:15,500 --> 00:46:17,200
I worked at Stafford Street
912
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,767
and George came to see me:
913
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,200
"I have these lyrics. Could you type them in?
914
00:46:23,267 --> 00:46:25,033
Because they are illegible. "
915
00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:27,733
He said to me, "I sit by your side
916
00:46:28,433 --> 00:46:31,367
and I'll read it to you so you can type it. "
917
00:46:32,067 --> 00:46:34,167
So I did it.
918
00:46:34,633 --> 00:46:38,400
When the page was finished, he handed it to me
919
00:46:39,067 --> 00:46:40,400
and I threw it in the trash.
920
00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:46,333
All songs from Sgt. Pepper
were in the trash.
921
00:46:47,433 --> 00:46:48,567
If I had known...
922
00:46:49,267 --> 00:46:51,200
The EMI group was very shocked
923
00:46:51,267 --> 00:46:56,133
by the amount spent on coverage
924
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,600
and they also wanted
bring up all the lyrics.
925
00:47:00,767 --> 00:47:04,033
The Beatles held out the stick
to be beaten
926
00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:07,567
because once the audience
would have read the lyrics he might
927
00:47:07,633 --> 00:47:11,567
interpret them
928
00:47:11,633 --> 00:47:15,467
and impute meaning to them
which probably didn't exist.
929
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,667
They had a pocket produced by The Fool group
930
00:47:19,733 --> 00:47:21,600
psychedelic style.
931
00:47:22,167 --> 00:47:25,600
Robert Fraser, their advisor
932
00:47:25,667 --> 00:47:27,600
and owner of a gallery, said to them:
933
00:47:27,667 --> 00:47:30,767
"It won't look good, because it will age quickly. "
934
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:36,533
They decided to keep this concept
and Paul said:
935
00:47:37,133 --> 00:47:43,000
"We are going to write a list of all our heroes
and that will make the cover,
936
00:47:43,067 --> 00:47:46,533
heroes and people that
we admire will be on this album. "
937
00:47:47,267 --> 00:47:51,000
Brian Epstein was in New York,
during that time,
938
00:47:51,233 --> 00:47:53,033
and he was horrified at the news.
939
00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:56,800
He said to himself, "All these people. Only the Beatles count. "
940
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,167
He had decided to return to London
941
00:47:59,233 --> 00:48:02,033
but he had a vision
where his plane crashed.
942
00:48:02,333 --> 00:48:06,233
So he left a message
to Nat Reese's lawyer:
943
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,433
"A brown blanket
for the album Sgt. Pepper. "
944
00:48:11,500 --> 00:48:14,767
The public expected them
let them be ahead in everything.
945
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,067
We said to ourselves: "The Beatles first
946
00:48:17,133 --> 00:48:18,533
and the others follow. "
947
00:48:18,700 --> 00:48:21,533
Of course, it was the time of military tunics
948
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:26,533
that Sgt. Pepper kissed.
Then it was the hippie era.
949
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,300
As you would expect,
John Lennon wanted
950
00:48:29,367 --> 00:48:31,467
Jesus Christ, Hitler.
951
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,600
Hitler is on the board
but it is hidden.
952
00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:40,067
When Sir Joseph Lockwood of EMI
arrived
953
00:48:40,133 --> 00:48:43,033
and saw Gandhi, he was struck down.
954
00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:45,233
"Impossible. We sell well in India."
955
00:48:45,300 --> 00:48:46,333
So he was dismissed.
956
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:47,767
But...
957
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,200
Peter Blake had succeeded
to get nine wax dummies
958
00:48:52,267 --> 00:48:54,800
from Madame Tussauds:
959
00:48:55,033 --> 00:48:57,033
four of the Beatles and other people
960
00:48:57,100 --> 00:48:59,400
like Sonny Liston and Diana Dors.
961
00:48:59,467 --> 00:49:01,467
I told them very early:
962
00:49:01,533 --> 00:49:05,367
"You have all your heroes,
your actors and your musicians.
963
00:49:06,033 --> 00:49:07,533
But no footballer? "
964
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,633
They replied that none of the four
was not interested in football
965
00:49:10,700 --> 00:49:12,467
even if they had grown up
in Liverpool.
966
00:49:12,633 --> 00:49:16,033
During teenagehood,
they had not attended matches.
967
00:49:16,300 --> 00:49:18,333
They weren't very fans.
968
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,467
They were too busy
to play guitar in the Quarrymen.
969
00:49:22,167 --> 00:49:25,367
Paul later said he was coming
from an Everton family
970
00:49:25,667 --> 00:49:28,700
but he never said it in front of me
971
00:49:29,133 --> 00:49:32,000
and his parents, his father, either.
972
00:49:32,733 --> 00:49:35,533
So they said:
"It's a good idea."
973
00:49:36,067 --> 00:49:38,567
They added a footballer
at this meeting:
974
00:49:39,467 --> 00:49:40,633
Albert Stubbins.
975
00:49:41,300 --> 00:49:44,467
John had chosen Albert Stubbins, because his name amused him.
976
00:49:44,533 --> 00:49:46,167
If it had been another year,
977
00:49:46,233 --> 00:49:48,367
there would have been Ravi Shankar
and the Maharishi.
978
00:49:48,433 --> 00:49:50,733
There were a lot of Americans ...
979
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:55,033
At that time, there was no Internet.
980
00:49:55,667 --> 00:49:58,367
You had to write to them
to have their permission
981
00:49:58,433 --> 00:50:00,067
and, if they were dead,
982
00:50:00,133 --> 00:50:03,367
you had to ask their families.
983
00:50:03,767 --> 00:50:06,133
I have a file of this thickness
984
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:11,500
matches for Sgt. Pepper.
985
00:50:12,367 --> 00:50:13,267
Chertsey.
986
00:50:13,333 --> 00:50:15,600
Ready to go to Weybridge, a bohemian caravan.
987
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,100
A gift for a four year old child who already has everything.
988
00:50:19,533 --> 00:50:22,000
His name: Julian Lennon, son of John Lennon.
989
00:50:22,067 --> 00:50:23,500
Who else but the Beatles?
990
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,600
ยฃ 4,000 for this vehicle entirely renovated and brightly colored,
991
00:50:27,667 --> 00:50:29,500
a great toy for a little boy.
992
00:50:30,067 --> 00:50:31,567
She was escorted by the police
993
00:50:31,767 --> 00:50:35,367
but not all fathers spend so much money for their children.
994
00:50:35,667 --> 00:50:39,100
It's in this kind of occasion that money can buy love.
995
00:50:39,633 --> 00:50:42,667
And if he decides to leave the house, which seems unlikely,
996
00:50:43,067 --> 00:50:45,400
he will be the best equipped gypsy on the roads.
997
00:50:48,167 --> 00:50:51,067
I was visiting a friend of mine
on King's Road.
998
00:50:51,133 --> 00:50:54,067
We were many,
sitting around the table,
999
00:50:54,133 --> 00:50:57,800
to listen to good music
and smoke weed
1000
00:50:58,033 --> 00:51:00,200
and no one was talking.
1001
00:51:00,267 --> 00:51:03,433
There were books on this table.
1002
00:51:03,500 --> 00:51:06,267
Very interesting spiritual books.
1003
00:51:06,333 --> 00:51:10,433
I took one, Karma and Rebirth,
1004
00:51:10,500 --> 00:51:12,733
written by a certain
Christmas Humphreys.
1005
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,433
I was leafing through the book and I saw this sentence:
1006
00:51:16,733 --> 00:51:19,400
"Life goes on with you and without you."
1007
00:51:20,367 --> 00:51:22,433
I thought to myself, "This is very special."
1008
00:51:22,500 --> 00:51:24,400
I called Patti and George
1009
00:51:24,467 --> 00:51:27,367
and George answered. I said, "Listen to this:
1010
00:51:27,433 --> 00:51:29,733
'Life goes on with you and without you.' "
1011
00:51:30,300 --> 00:51:31,600
He loved it and he made it
1012
00:51:31,667 --> 00:51:33,733
the song "Within You Without You".
1013
00:51:34,267 --> 00:51:37,500
George Martin told me later,
after the death of George Harrison:
1014
00:51:37,667 --> 00:51:39,800
"If it's the first song
1015
00:51:40,033 --> 00:51:42,067
from the second side of Sgt. Pepper,
1016
00:51:42,133 --> 00:51:47,500
it is so that the listeners go
directly to the second song.
1017
00:51:48,167 --> 00:51:49,500
I hadn't imagined
that it would work.
1018
00:51:50,133 --> 00:51:54,633
The sitar in the songs,
in rock or psychedelic music,
1019
00:51:54,700 --> 00:51:58,433
it was dominant in the album Sgt. Pepper.
1020
00:51:59,233 --> 00:52:00,600
Nobody had ...
1021
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,233
We saw Elvis and Little Richard
1022
00:52:03,300 --> 00:52:06,067
but we never would have imagined
see a sitar
1023
00:52:06,300 --> 00:52:09,267
in a popular group at that time.
1024
00:52:09,333 --> 00:52:12,233
Paul rightly said,
growing up,
1025
00:52:12,300 --> 00:52:14,800
that the album booklet
was very important,
1026
00:52:15,033 --> 00:52:18,600
as important as the colors of the label
and that smell of the album.
1027
00:52:18,667 --> 00:52:22,033
He was aware
tactile and visual aspects
1028
00:52:22,100 --> 00:52:25,300
an album and all the details
that a child absorbs
1029
00:52:25,367 --> 00:52:28,133
and even Garrod and Lofthouse,
1030
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,067
impressions at the bottom.
1031
00:52:30,133 --> 00:52:32,133
He wanted it to be filled with elements:
1032
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,600
illustrations, small gifts.
1033
00:52:35,667 --> 00:52:37,800
The Fool had done ...
1034
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,733
Like a spot of color
on the inside page.
1035
00:52:41,333 --> 00:52:43,733
It was up to par.
It was breathtaking.
1036
00:52:44,667 --> 00:52:47,467
You opened and they were there,
in this Sgt. Pepper
1037
00:52:48,367 --> 00:52:50,567
and you open the booklet
and you said to yourself:
1038
00:52:50,633 --> 00:52:53,267
"We can detach the mustache."
1039
00:52:53,633 --> 00:52:57,067
There is Sgt. Pepper.
You can detach it and stand it up.
1040
00:52:57,300 --> 00:52:58,433
The dilemma was:
1041
00:52:58,500 --> 00:53:01,467
"I leave it intact
so as not to damage it? "
1042
00:53:01,533 --> 00:53:04,267
That's what I did
because you will not go far
1043
00:53:04,333 --> 00:53:06,667
with the paper mustache, right?
1044
00:53:07,433 --> 00:53:09,133
Especially at ten but ...
1045
00:53:10,100 --> 00:53:13,633
But I still have it. Intact.
1046
00:53:14,133 --> 00:53:18,767
And there was something
who grabbed you in the booklet.
1047
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,667
It was Paul's idea.
1048
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,167
I had seen his drawings.
I had heard discussions.
1049
00:53:24,233 --> 00:53:26,300
About the title.
1050
00:53:26,367 --> 00:53:28,500
I had heard
how they would arrange it.
1051
00:53:28,700 --> 00:53:32,300
I came by one day and he said:
"We are taking pictures this evening."
1052
00:53:32,433 --> 00:53:35,167
So I jumped into his Mini Minor
1053
00:53:35,367 --> 00:53:40,400
and we went to the studio
by Michael Cooper on Flood Street.
1054
00:53:41,167 --> 00:53:44,633
Leaving Paulโs house,
that he still has, right around the corner,
1055
00:53:45,333 --> 00:53:48,333
he said, "We will need
of objects to decorate the front. "
1056
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,667
I had seen drawings
and they kept changing their minds.
1057
00:53:52,733 --> 00:53:55,767
I had seen the costumes.
They had tried them and said:
1058
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,800
"No ... I want another one."
1059
00:53:58,267 --> 00:54:03,133
There he said, "Take something
to put it at the bottom of the photo. "
1060
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:07,100
I looked around
and I took a statue from his shelf.
1061
00:54:07,167 --> 00:54:09,233
I had no idea what it was.
1062
00:54:09,300 --> 00:54:10,367
It looked like that.
1063
00:54:11,667 --> 00:54:15,700
Like a rocket we gave them
a few years earlier.
1064
00:54:15,767 --> 00:54:19,033
John had given his own to a fan
who had come to his house.
1065
00:54:19,100 --> 00:54:20,067
He had given it to her.
1066
00:54:20,500 --> 00:54:23,367
So i took it
from in front of his Magritte.
1067
00:54:23,433 --> 00:54:24,467
He adored Magritte.
1068
00:54:24,533 --> 00:54:27,800
He had bought Magritte's painting
with an apple,
1069
00:54:28,100 --> 00:54:30,233
used by Apple.
1070
00:54:30,633 --> 00:54:33,300
And Linda bought her
1071
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,567
the palette of paint and the easel
from Magritte
1072
00:54:38,033 --> 00:54:40,667
and he wanted Magritte on it
but not the old ...
1073
00:54:41,700 --> 00:54:46,600
Robert Fraser's people
thought he was an agent.
1074
00:54:46,767 --> 00:54:49,767
To me, it was a disaster.
1075
00:54:50,133 --> 00:54:53,700
It could have been a wonderful concept,
1076
00:54:54,167 --> 00:54:57,000
all heroes and men
who influenced them,
1077
00:54:57,067 --> 00:54:59,767
which would have given
a beautiful image of the Beatles.
1078
00:55:00,167 --> 00:55:04,533
And it was rejected.
So do not imagine
1079
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,700
that it's the real, the authentic
cover because it isn't.
1080
00:55:08,167 --> 00:55:10,600
There was a deductive logic:
1081
00:55:11,533 --> 00:55:13,233
"Who have they left out?
1082
00:55:13,300 --> 00:55:14,267
Why them? "
1083
00:55:14,333 --> 00:55:16,400
These are the personalities of the time,
1084
00:55:16,467 --> 00:55:17,700
the biggest.
1085
00:55:19,267 --> 00:55:21,733
We never knew
if they were going to parody them
1086
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,067
or say, "They are our heroes."
1087
00:55:24,367 --> 00:55:29,333
To me it was very ironic.
1088
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:30,267
I said to myself :
1089
00:55:30,533 --> 00:55:33,033
"They laugh a lot about it."
1090
00:55:33,100 --> 00:55:36,467
They staged these people
in one way,
1091
00:55:36,700 --> 00:55:39,167
saying, "These are all our friends."
1092
00:55:39,233 --> 00:55:42,367
And the charming little attention: "Welcome to the Rolling Stones."
1093
00:55:43,500 --> 00:55:44,800
It was incredibly expensive.
1094
00:55:45,033 --> 00:55:47,033
At EMI,
we thought they were crazy.
1095
00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:50,267
"Why do all this
for a pop album
1096
00:55:50,333 --> 00:55:53,133
who will be replaced in six months
by another?
1097
00:55:53,333 --> 00:55:55,567
It's ... "They didn't understand.
1098
00:55:56,100 --> 00:55:58,367
The Beatles had ambition.
1099
00:55:58,767 --> 00:56:03,267
Ambition, talent and ego.
1100
00:56:03,333 --> 00:56:05,800
"We want to do something special
and it will be good. "
1101
00:56:06,033 --> 00:56:11,067
There are also the medals.
Pete Best's father
1102
00:56:11,467 --> 00:56:14,733
organized boxing fights
in Liverpool, at the Liverpool Stadium,
1103
00:56:15,267 --> 00:56:16,633
and he had ...
1104
00:56:17,567 --> 00:56:22,133
He had a kind of cup
who was to come back to him in Liverpool
1105
00:56:22,567 --> 00:56:26,767
and Neil Aspinall grabbed it
to use it on the cover.
1106
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,000
{\ an8} My motherโs family,
even if they were English,
1107
00:56:30,233 --> 00:56:33,800
{\ an8} they were born during the Raj,
a military family in India.
1108
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:37,633
His father, my grandfather,
1109
00:56:38,567 --> 00:56:41,733
was an officer in the Lancers.
1110
00:56:42,367 --> 00:56:46,333
She was very proud that his father has a lot of medals.
1111
00:56:47,133 --> 00:56:50,033
On many occasions, when she welcomed them,
1112
00:56:50,333 --> 00:56:53,133
she was showing the four of them, these medals.
1113
00:56:53,567 --> 00:56:55,500
Brian had returned in 1967
1114
00:56:55,567 --> 00:56:58,300
when they were gathering business for Sgt. Pepper.
1115
00:56:58,467 --> 00:57:02,067
John remembered the medals.
1116
00:57:02,567 --> 00:57:05,133
He said, "They would be great for Sgt. Pepper.
1117
00:57:05,567 --> 00:57:08,733
Could you ask Mona if I can borrow them? "
1118
00:57:09,567 --> 00:57:13,133
She turned to Neil and said, "You have my blessing.
1119
00:57:13,667 --> 00:57:16,067
But tell John to give them back to me. "
1120
00:57:17,167 --> 00:57:18,800
Neil took them to London.
1121
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,067
When deciding,
1122
00:57:22,133 --> 00:57:24,200
facing medals and other objects,
1123
00:57:24,267 --> 00:57:26,667
John decided that the medals
he would wear
1124
00:57:26,733 --> 00:57:28,567
belonged to this collection.
1125
00:57:28,633 --> 00:57:31,600
So, we see them on Sgt. Peps.
1126
00:57:33,733 --> 00:57:37,067
Which is wonderful,
is that he kept his word.
1127
00:57:37,300 --> 00:57:43,533
He asked Neil to bring the medals back to Mona.
1128
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,400
This is how the family ended up involved in Sgt. Pepper.
1129
00:57:48,467 --> 00:57:52,033
The album was expected
as the best-selling album in the world
1130
00:57:52,100 --> 00:57:53,033
and...
1131
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:56,667
They were there.
1132
00:57:57,367 --> 00:58:00,300
For years, no one has known.
1133
00:58:00,667 --> 00:58:02,733
Chas and Jimi were friends of mine
1134
00:58:03,267 --> 00:58:06,767
and I had an Sgt acetate. Pepper
1135
00:58:07,500 --> 00:58:11,367
and I gave it to Chas who played it to Jimi
1136
00:58:12,100 --> 00:58:14,233
and Jimi immediately jumped on it.
1137
00:58:14,300 --> 00:58:17,567
He repeated and appropriated it.
1138
00:58:18,333 --> 00:58:20,433
I heard him play at the Saville Theater
1139
00:58:20,500 --> 00:58:24,333
the Sunday after the release of Pepper
1140
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,033
and he played it.
1141
00:58:27,500 --> 00:58:29,367
McCartney agreed and loved it.
1142
00:58:29,733 --> 00:58:31,533
He was deeply flattered,
1143
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:35,533
because he was a very big rock star
1144
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,033
who was playing his creation
and he was a composer.
1145
00:58:39,100 --> 00:58:41,367
He liked that the others
play his compositions.
1146
00:58:41,633 --> 00:58:44,400
When Sgt. Pepper is out June 1, 1967,
1147
00:58:44,467 --> 00:58:47,367
he was expected for so long.
1148
00:58:47,433 --> 00:58:49,433
The anticipation was enormous.
1149
00:58:49,500 --> 00:58:52,667
We read NME and Melody Maker
while waiting for its release.
1150
00:58:53,100 --> 00:58:55,333
Anywhere on King's Road,
1151
00:58:55,600 --> 00:59:00,000
the shops, the stores were playing this album.
1152
00:59:00,333 --> 00:59:01,567
It was an event.
1153
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,800
The album, when I saw the cover,
that alone was an event.
1154
00:59:06,033 --> 00:59:08,433
It said, "We're not kidding.
1155
00:59:08,500 --> 00:59:10,300
It is special."
1156
00:59:10,367 --> 00:59:11,700
A huge presentation.
1157
00:59:11,767 --> 00:59:16,700
When we were shooting the clip
from "Strawberry Fields",
1158
00:59:17,367 --> 00:59:20,067
at Sevenoaks in Kent,
1159
00:59:20,133 --> 00:59:24,067
we had a small hotel, Bright's Hotel,
1160
00:59:24,133 --> 00:59:26,167
and an antique shop
1161
00:59:26,767 --> 00:59:29,633
The poster was on the wall.
1162
00:59:29,700 --> 00:59:34,500
It cost half a pound.
1163
00:59:35,767 --> 00:59:37,233
It was :
1164
00:59:38,333 --> 00:59:41,400
"For the benefit of Mr. Kite"
and a whole list of acts.
1165
00:59:41,467 --> 00:59:43,767
Pablo Fanque's circus, and all these things ...
1166
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,433
CIRQUE ROYAL PABLO FANQUE
1167
00:59:45,500 --> 00:59:46,600
... the dancing horse.
1168
00:59:47,767 --> 00:59:52,300
He had it framed and he displayed it in his living room in Weybridge
1169
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,067
and, right after, he wrote the song ...
1170
00:59:55,133 --> 00:59:56,267
The evening of the season!
1171
00:59:56,333 --> 00:59:57,533
FOR THE BENEFIT OF MR. KITE
1172
00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,533
... from this poster.
1173
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,433
He made it a poetry.
1174
01:00:03,333 --> 01:00:09,400
Then George Martin added these wonderful funfair effects.
1175
01:00:09,467 --> 01:00:11,367
A masterpiece.
1176
01:00:12,100 --> 01:00:14,233
He was inspired by other horizons.
1177
01:00:14,300 --> 01:00:16,433
As in the album Sgt. Pepper,
1178
01:00:16,500 --> 01:00:19,800
or in the Daily Mail article
on her friend Tara Browne
1179
01:00:20,033 --> 01:00:21,667
killed in a road accident.
1180
01:00:21,733 --> 01:00:25,000
And the same with Paul and the idea of โโthe Daily Mail
1181
01:00:25,067 --> 01:00:27,200
for "She's Leaving Home" on Melanie Coe ...
1182
01:00:27,267 --> 01:00:28,467
MISSING ...
THE GIRL WHO HAS EVERYTHING
1183
01:00:28,533 --> 01:00:30,200
... who ran away with a man.
1184
01:00:30,267 --> 01:00:32,300
Paul talked about a man
of the automotive world.
1185
01:00:32,367 --> 01:00:35,033
Everyone believed
that it was Terry Doran
1186
01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:36,200
but Paul denied.
1187
01:00:36,267 --> 01:00:39,633
Terry Doran was their friend
who managed the cars.
1188
01:00:40,333 --> 01:00:41,233
Chertsey.
1189
01:00:43,133 --> 01:00:46,333
One of the wheels of John Lennon's Rolls. An essence.
1190
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,400
At over 80, it's fabulous.
1191
01:00:48,733 --> 01:00:53,633
A 1965 Phantom for ยฃ 6,000, wonderful interior and exterior.
1192
01:00:54,167 --> 01:00:55,400
As much as the other
1193
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,400
now that she's been pampered.
1194
01:00:58,467 --> 01:01:00,367
Even a Beatle could not have asked for better.
1195
01:01:02,633 --> 01:01:04,667
When Paul spoke publicly about LSD,
1196
01:01:04,733 --> 01:01:08,033
he was chatting with a journalist
1197
01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:09,167
and it was published.
1198
01:01:09,233 --> 01:01:12,100
I remember it made
the front page of the Daily Mirror
1199
01:01:12,167 --> 01:01:17,433
and, of course, the news,
TV news flocked.
1200
01:01:17,767 --> 01:01:19,733
John was upset
1201
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,633
that he and George were the first
to take LSD
1202
01:01:22,700 --> 01:01:25,000
and that Paul, a novice,
1203
01:01:25,067 --> 01:01:27,233
was the first to say: "I took LSD."
1204
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,167
They thought it was unfair,
1205
01:01:30,233 --> 01:01:32,433
because they were the pioneers.
1206
01:01:32,700 --> 01:01:35,167
{\ an8} Paul, how often did you take LSD?
1207
01:01:35,233 --> 01:01:36,633
{\ an8} INTERVIEW TV, JUNE 1967
1208
01:01:37,367 --> 01:01:38,467
{\ an8} Four times.
1209
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:40,700
Where did you get it?
1210
01:01:41,433 --> 01:01:44,167
As if I was going to tell you.
1211
01:01:44,233 --> 01:01:46,667
It's illegal. It would be foolish to say so.
1212
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:47,800
I prefer to keep quiet.
1213
01:01:48,033 --> 01:01:51,600
Don't you think this is a subject
who should have stayed private?
1214
01:01:52,433 --> 01:01:56,133
In fact, a reporter asked me
a question
1215
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,700
and I had to decide between lying or ...
1216
01:02:03,067 --> 01:02:04,367
tell the truth.
1217
01:02:05,167 --> 01:02:06,600
I decided to tell the truth
1218
01:02:08,333 --> 01:02:11,367
but I didn't want to talk about it.
1219
01:02:11,433 --> 01:02:12,767
If it was up to me,
1220
01:02:13,433 --> 01:02:16,400
if I could have decided,
I would not have told anyone.
1221
01:02:16,467 --> 01:02:19,367
Because I don't want it to be known.
1222
01:02:19,733 --> 01:02:23,767
But this reporter
is the man of mass media.
1223
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:28,433
I would not have said anything
if he hadn't said anything, if he had been silent
1224
01:02:29,500 --> 01:02:30,733
But he wanted to say it.
1225
01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,800
It is his responsibility, not mine.
1226
01:02:35,500 --> 01:02:38,067
You are a public figure
and you said it.
1227
01:02:38,133 --> 01:02:41,067
You should have known
that it would appear in the newspapers.
1228
01:02:41,700 --> 01:02:45,100
Yes, but I only told the truth.
1229
01:02:45,167 --> 01:02:46,633
I tell the truth.
1230
01:02:47,033 --> 01:02:49,100
I don't understand this anger.
1231
01:02:49,533 --> 01:02:52,800
Do you think you encouraged
your fans on drugs?
1232
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,100
It won't make any difference.
1233
01:02:55,167 --> 01:02:58,567
I don't think my fans will
take drugs because I did.
1234
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,500
But this is not the question.
1235
01:03:01,567 --> 01:03:03,233
I was asked if I had ever taken drugs.
1236
01:03:04,167 --> 01:03:08,133
Now,
the proportions that it will take,
1237
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,233
The number of people
that it will encourage,
1238
01:03:10,300 --> 01:03:13,200
it's up to the newspapers and to you,
on television, to decide it.
1239
01:03:13,667 --> 01:03:16,033
You are broadcasting this message.
1240
01:03:16,467 --> 01:03:19,233
This message enters homes
1241
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:21,800
and I would have preferred that it did not happen.
1242
01:03:22,167 --> 01:03:24,400
But you ask me.
I want to be honest.
1243
01:03:24,467 --> 01:03:25,600
I'm honest.
1244
01:03:26,167 --> 01:03:29,533
But, as a public figure,
you have the duty ...
1245
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,667
No, it's your duty.
1246
01:03:32,433 --> 01:03:35,200
You have the responsibility
not to spread the word.
1247
01:03:35,667 --> 01:03:40,367
I'm ready to keep this confidential
if you are too.
1248
01:03:40,700 --> 01:03:42,433
If you are silent, I will be silent.
1249
01:03:42,767 --> 01:03:45,533
The emergence of LSD, remember,
1250
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:50,067
{\ an8} at the very beginning,
it was not illegal in this country
1251
01:03:50,133 --> 01:03:53,800
{\ an8} and there was
the International Psychedelic Center
1252
01:03:54,033 --> 01:03:56,200
where you could go get it.
1253
01:03:56,267 --> 01:03:58,600
You could have
on a piece of bread.
1254
01:03:58,667 --> 01:04:00,433
It quickly became illegal
1255
01:04:01,267 --> 01:04:05,300
and there have been several debates
very plausible
1256
01:04:05,367 --> 01:04:07,533
that it was wonderful
to take it.
1257
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:11,167
{\ an8} John always said that
"Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds"
1258
01:04:11,233 --> 01:04:14,033
{\ an8} was talking about his son Julian
who had returned from school
1259
01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:18,667
with a drawing of a certain Lucy, a girl from her school,
1260
01:04:19,033 --> 01:04:20,600
in the sky with diamonds.
1261
01:04:21,067 --> 01:04:23,000
He always denied that it was LSD
1262
01:04:23,700 --> 01:04:25,033
and he said so.
1263
01:04:25,433 --> 01:04:28,167
In my opinion, that spoke of that.
1264
01:04:29,167 --> 01:04:31,000
John should have been blind
1265
01:04:31,067 --> 01:04:35,333
to not see that "Lucy in the Sky
with Diamonds "was L-S-D
1266
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,233
and we know it was not.
1267
01:04:37,667 --> 01:04:40,367
{\ an8} Even John said:
"It was an accident."
1268
01:04:40,433 --> 01:04:44,200
{\ an8} We can appeal
to artistic freedom here,
1269
01:04:44,633 --> 01:04:48,233
but I think it's more
just a coincidence.
1270
01:04:48,300 --> 01:04:52,233
The initials "LSD" were pure coincidence.
1271
01:04:52,767 --> 01:04:53,633
{\ an8} They ...
1272
01:04:54,700 --> 01:04:57,300
{\ an8} There was no code anywhere.
1273
01:04:57,633 --> 01:05:01,267
{\ an8} However,
for titles like "I Am the Walrus",
1274
01:05:01,367 --> 01:05:03,567
people said:
"What does it mean ?
1275
01:05:03,633 --> 01:05:06,000
It could be clearer, right? "
1276
01:05:06,667 --> 01:05:11,500
John was deliberately answering nonsense.
1277
01:05:11,633 --> 01:05:14,267
I have a quote in my book
about :
1278
01:05:14,333 --> 01:05:16,333
"Let them think.
It will disturb them. "
1279
01:05:16,767 --> 01:05:20,500
He didn't really send messages.
He was a diversion.
1280
01:05:20,567 --> 01:05:22,467
The Beatles have a good story
1281
01:05:22,633 --> 01:05:25,033
which explains that "Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds "is not LSD
1282
01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:27,667
but it was probably written by Brian Epstein.
1283
01:05:28,533 --> 01:05:31,133
In my opinion, they were talking about LSD,
1284
01:05:31,333 --> 01:05:33,267
but we told them
that it was better to avoid.
1285
01:05:33,333 --> 01:05:37,100
{\ an8} However, the BBC was convinced
that it was that
1286
01:05:37,167 --> 01:05:40,133
{\ an8} and they wrongly prohibited it,
because it was part of youth.
1287
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,400
In Sgt. Pepper,
they knew what they were doing.
1288
01:05:42,467 --> 01:05:46,100
They distilled little jokes. There were before
1289
01:05:47,467 --> 01:05:50,300
in "Penny Lane" with "Fish and finger pie".
1290
01:05:50,633 --> 01:05:52,200
They did it on purpose.
1291
01:05:52,667 --> 01:05:54,533
A bit vulgar, it's true.
1292
01:05:55,167 --> 01:05:56,233
Obscenities of high school students.
1293
01:05:56,300 --> 01:05:59,800
{\ an8} They banned "A Day in the Life".
They had misinterpreted it.
1294
01:06:00,033 --> 01:06:02,700
{\ an8} "Too many holes to fill the Albert Hall"
1295
01:06:02,767 --> 01:06:04,667
which was inspired by an article ...
1296
01:06:04,733 --> 01:06:05,733
The holes in our roads
1297
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,167
... on the holes at Blackburn
1298
01:06:08,567 --> 01:06:11,400
and they believed it was
holes made with syringes
1299
01:06:12,033 --> 01:06:12,733
so they banned it.
1300
01:06:13,133 --> 01:06:15,467
This is the attitude that reigned at the time.
1301
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,667
Obviously, in this album,
they took all the risks.
1302
01:06:19,733 --> 01:06:21,800
They took all the risks
1303
01:06:22,433 --> 01:06:25,633
{\ an8} when they made the long cry of "I'd like to plug you in."
1304
01:06:25,700 --> 01:06:27,233
{\ an8} LONDON, APRIL 1967
1305
01:06:27,300 --> 01:06:28,667
{\ an8} They knew what they were doing
1306
01:06:29,233 --> 01:06:32,200
{\ an8} and they managed to get by there often
1307
01:06:32,267 --> 01:06:35,500
they thought they could get away with that too.
1308
01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,700
They opened the world
1309
01:06:38,767 --> 01:06:41,533
to psychedelia and psychedelic drugs.
1310
01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:42,667
They had the platform.
1311
01:06:43,100 --> 01:06:45,067
There was a lot going on in America,
1312
01:06:45,367 --> 01:06:48,000
drugs and Timothy Leary.
1313
01:06:48,633 --> 01:06:52,600
To arrive at the superb replica
from Bardo Thรถdol:
1314
01:06:54,067 --> 01:06:56,200
"She said, 'I know death.'"
1315
01:06:56,267 --> 01:06:57,600
Which was revolutionary.
1316
01:06:57,667 --> 01:07:00,300
Suddenly, from "She Loves You" to that.
1317
01:07:01,033 --> 01:07:03,100
It was a spectacular statement.
1318
01:07:03,167 --> 01:07:06,000
In general, it was Mick, Keith and their group of troubadours
1319
01:07:06,300 --> 01:07:09,133
who were known for having a bad influence
1320
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,800
and to be men to whom one would not entrust one's daughter
1321
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,167
{\ an8} but the Beatles weren't saints.
1322
01:07:17,767 --> 01:07:20,400
{\ an8} Besides, they would have admitted it.
1323
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:24,233
It was not seen as drugs
1324
01:07:24,300 --> 01:07:26,467
who terrified the English,
1325
01:07:26,533 --> 01:07:30,367
like cocaine
that has always existed.
1326
01:07:30,700 --> 01:07:34,300
Lady Diana Cooper,
a woman of the great world,
1327
01:07:34,367 --> 01:07:36,167
lived in the 1920s.
1328
01:07:36,233 --> 01:07:39,333
Later, when meeting pop stars,
1329
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,433
she said, "In the 1920s,
we used to sit at dinners
1330
01:07:42,500 --> 01:07:45,333
and there were silver salt shakers
filled with cocaine. "
1331
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:46,800
So it was not new.
1332
01:07:47,433 --> 01:07:51,000
Lennon was reading Lewis Carroll and others
1333
01:07:51,067 --> 01:07:53,467
and they were absorbed by this universe.
1334
01:07:53,533 --> 01:07:57,067
At that time,
drugs were seen as progressive:
1335
01:07:57,133 --> 01:07:59,367
"You could find
your inner light
1336
01:07:59,433 --> 01:08:01,500
and interpret it differently. "
1337
01:08:01,567 --> 01:08:05,000
Music has a spiritual side.
1338
01:08:05,067 --> 01:08:07,300
They went to the bathroom.
1339
01:08:07,367 --> 01:08:09,133
They weren't doing that in the studio.
1340
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,733
Or they were hiding behind an enclosure
1341
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,700
to quickly pull on a joint.
1342
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,333
One day John had to go up to the roof.
1343
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,233
This again reveals the proximity
between them.
1344
01:08:20,300 --> 01:08:24,200
Paul brought him home to St John's Wood.
1345
01:08:24,267 --> 01:08:26,200
Neil Aspinall was there too.
1346
01:08:26,267 --> 01:08:29,500
They took care of John, because he had used LSD.
1347
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,733
{\ an8} When we take acid,
1348
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:37,300
{\ an8} everything that happens during your trip,
1349
01:08:37,367 --> 01:08:38,733
{\ an8} you know it was there
1350
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:43,433
and you have to live with this information
1351
01:08:43,500 --> 01:08:45,100
rather than repress it.
1352
01:08:45,167 --> 01:08:47,700
That's why it was easy for the Maharishi.
1353
01:08:47,767 --> 01:08:49,433
Everyone was ready.
1354
01:08:50,267 --> 01:08:56,067
The Maharishi era has started
with George's wife, Patti Boyd,
1355
01:08:56,133 --> 01:08:58,267
who had heard of him.
1356
01:08:58,333 --> 01:09:01,367
The Maharishi came to London for years.
1357
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,467
I remember a photo of him in the metro,
1358
01:09:04,533 --> 01:09:07,100
long before the Beatles don't find out.
1359
01:09:07,733 --> 01:09:12,133
They were in the situation where wealth, luxury and fame
1360
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,700
are starting to tire. They were looking for something else.
1361
01:09:14,767 --> 01:09:17,333
Something superior, spiritual
1362
01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,400
and the Maharishi had a fast lane
1363
01:09:20,733 --> 01:09:22,800
towards inner bliss and spirituality.
1364
01:09:23,033 --> 01:09:25,367
It was enough to practice half an hour a day,
1365
01:09:25,433 --> 01:09:28,267
perfectly compatible with their ability to concentrate.
1366
01:09:29,167 --> 01:09:32,067
One evening Michael McCartney called me:
1367
01:09:32,767 --> 01:09:35,100
"There is going to be an evening."
1368
01:09:36,133 --> 01:09:38,167
There were always in the 60s.
1369
01:09:38,233 --> 01:09:41,067
A simple hamburger and a Coca-Cola
1370
01:09:41,133 --> 01:09:42,567
and we called it an evening.
1371
01:09:43,167 --> 01:09:45,600
He said: "They're leaving for Bangor tomorrow."
1372
01:09:45,667 --> 01:09:46,800
I said, "Where?"
1373
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,400
"See the Maharishi." "Who?"
1374
01:09:50,067 --> 01:09:51,567
"They met him yesterday."
1375
01:09:52,267 --> 01:09:55,600
They went to his party at the Hilton
1376
01:09:55,667 --> 01:09:57,467
and they had listened to him
1377
01:09:58,033 --> 01:09:58,733
and they were ...
1378
01:09:59,233 --> 01:10:02,167
George was already interested
to Indian mysticism,
1379
01:10:02,233 --> 01:10:05,600
to spiritual awareness
and Indian music.
1380
01:10:05,667 --> 01:10:07,500
{\ an8} EUSTON STATION, LONDON, AUGUST 1967
1381
01:10:07,567 --> 01:10:09,700
{\ an8} I took the train with the four Beatles
1382
01:10:10,300 --> 01:10:11,533
{\ an8} and I sat in a compartment.
1383
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,233
It was in 1967.
1384
01:10:13,300 --> 01:10:14,767
A first class compartment
1385
01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,433
and, at that time, there was a corridor
1386
01:10:17,633 --> 01:10:20,767
and a closed compartment.
You could lower curtains.
1387
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:22,800
I sat down with the four Beatles,
1388
01:10:23,033 --> 01:10:25,733
Mick Jagger and Marianne Faithfull
1389
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:27,633
and we went to Bangor.
1390
01:10:28,367 --> 01:10:31,033
During the trip,
we stopped
1391
01:10:31,100 --> 01:10:32,467
twice, notably in Chester.
1392
01:10:33,167 --> 01:10:36,067
There were young people on the quay
screaming,
1393
01:10:36,133 --> 01:10:38,767
asking for autographs. The windows could open.
1394
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:42,400
They had three Beatles but not John.
1395
01:10:42,467 --> 01:10:45,233
John said: "I won't sign. It gets me drunk."
1396
01:10:45,300 --> 01:10:48,267
And there would have been tears. So, I signed for him.
1397
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,767
The Maharishi was on the train. here
why we had to take this one.
1398
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:53,600
We went in his wagon.
1399
01:10:53,667 --> 01:10:56,367
He gave us a mantra
that I will not reveal.
1400
01:11:07,733 --> 01:11:10,167
The Beatles are among your followers.
1401
01:11:10,233 --> 01:11:11,467
What do you think ?
1402
01:11:12,100 --> 01:11:15,133
It's a big promise
for the younger generation,
1403
01:11:15,467 --> 01:11:19,100
because if the Beatles are using
Transcendental Meditation,
1404
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:22,267
they are ideal
for energy and intelligence
1405
01:11:22,333 --> 01:11:23,600
in the younger generation
1406
01:11:23,767 --> 01:11:26,500
and it will lead youth
1407
01:11:26,567 --> 01:11:29,767
at a good level
of understanding and intelligence.
1408
01:11:30,333 --> 01:11:33,767
I am very happy
we have met
1409
01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,200
and they talked to me for an hour
after our meeting.
1410
01:11:37,433 --> 01:11:40,133
They seem to be smart
and honest.
1411
01:11:41,033 --> 01:11:43,500
If the Beatles
adopt your teachings,
1412
01:11:43,567 --> 01:11:46,033
they can spread them
among the youth?
1413
01:11:46,100 --> 01:11:49,067
Yes, and not only in England
but around the world,
1414
01:11:49,133 --> 01:11:52,233
because the word "Beatle" has traveled
on all continents
1415
01:11:52,300 --> 01:11:55,600
and all the young people
are fascinated by this name.
1416
01:11:56,033 --> 01:11:57,533
What do you think of the Beatles?
1417
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:01,367
Very intelligent young boys
with great potential.
1418
01:12:01,433 --> 01:12:02,367
And their music?
1419
01:12:03,067 --> 01:12:04,133
I do not know her
1420
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,067
but as it is much appreciated
in the whole world,
1421
01:12:07,133 --> 01:12:09,600
she must have something gracious.
1422
01:12:19,167 --> 01:12:23,367
Cynthia was the candid of the Beatles, always left behind.
1423
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,400
When they went to see the Maharishi
in Wales,
1424
01:12:27,467 --> 01:12:30,167
it was left on the platform.
She missed the train.
1425
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,800
They all boarded.
She was crying on the platform.
1426
01:12:34,033 --> 01:12:37,200
{\ an8} The Maharishi was intelligent
and he knew how to make people talk about him.
1427
01:12:37,267 --> 01:12:39,133
{\ an8} AUTHOR THE BEATLES '66
1428
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,700
{\ an8} Previously, other people
1429
01:12:41,767 --> 01:12:45,000
had done the same
and targeted wealthy and celebrities,
1430
01:12:45,067 --> 01:12:47,267
because they knew that if ...
1431
01:12:47,333 --> 01:12:50,633
If their ideas
were adopted by high society,
1432
01:12:50,700 --> 01:12:53,067
they could escape
from the ordinary.
1433
01:12:53,133 --> 01:12:56,400
So it was not written
but that's what he did
1434
01:12:56,633 --> 01:12:58,400
like the people of Hare Krishna,
1435
01:12:58,467 --> 01:13:00,267
because they felt things
around Apple
1436
01:13:00,333 --> 01:13:03,033
and got a record deal.
1437
01:13:03,100 --> 01:13:05,700
And if someone knew
the Hare Krishna movement,
1438
01:13:05,767 --> 01:13:07,400
he was necessarily the link
1439
01:13:07,467 --> 01:13:11,633
with the popularity gained
thanks to the Beatles.
1440
01:13:42,533 --> 01:13:44,533
But, given their experience
1441
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,333
and seeing what I went through
1442
01:13:47,033 --> 01:13:48,367
at a lower level than they
1443
01:13:48,433 --> 01:13:51,800
but I still experienced things with the group,
1444
01:13:52,033 --> 01:13:55,467
you want to find more.
1445
01:13:56,267 --> 01:13:58,233
Play on stage,
1446
01:13:58,300 --> 01:14:01,500
make music,
have incredible experiences,
1447
01:14:01,567 --> 01:14:04,500
spice up your life
1448
01:14:05,167 --> 01:14:08,133
and then you have to manage it all.
1449
01:14:08,667 --> 01:14:10,767
They must have said to themselves:
1450
01:14:11,433 --> 01:14:13,733
"We will carry spirituality
on another level. "
1451
01:14:14,333 --> 01:14:18,300
Yes, the Maharishi was intelligent.
He had a wealthy American
1452
01:14:18,367 --> 01:14:20,433
who praised his merits in America
1453
01:14:20,500 --> 01:14:22,500
and his son became Bungalow Bill
1454
01:14:22,567 --> 01:14:25,433
in the song on The White Album.
1455
01:14:25,700 --> 01:14:32,167
He was aware of the value
advertising of these four boys
1456
01:14:32,700 --> 01:14:34,600
the most famous in the world,
probably,
1457
01:14:34,667 --> 01:14:37,233
of this most popular group in the world
1458
01:14:37,300 --> 01:14:39,433
even if he didn't know their music.
1459
01:14:39,500 --> 01:14:41,667
He had knowledge
of their incredible value
1460
01:14:41,733 --> 01:14:43,267
to spread his message.
1461
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,433
The Maharishi was
a gifted businessman
1462
01:14:47,500 --> 01:14:50,167
who had studied physics.
1463
01:14:50,233 --> 01:14:53,400
He had studied physics in college.
He had a scientific side
1464
01:14:53,467 --> 01:14:55,533
and an advertising side
1465
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:58,433
and also a spiritual side.
1466
01:15:14,500 --> 01:15:17,667
We have arrived in Bangor.
1467
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:20,433
The technicians hadn't arrived.
1468
01:15:20,500 --> 01:15:21,733
I went to town
1469
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,033
with the four Beatles for dinner.
1470
01:15:24,100 --> 01:15:25,667
We went to Chinese.
1471
01:15:26,500 --> 01:15:28,233
An addition of ten pounds
1472
01:15:28,667 --> 01:15:31,033
and I only had five.
1473
01:15:32,300 --> 01:15:35,467
I said, "I'm sorry.
These are the Beatles. "
1474
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,733
In front of me,
servers from Hong Kong
1475
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:40,067
surely arrived the day before
1476
01:15:40,500 --> 01:15:42,633
who only heard
a Liverpool accent.
1477
01:15:43,367 --> 01:15:45,433
It was quite common,
Saturday evenings,
1478
01:15:45,500 --> 01:15:48,100
that the people of Liverpool
come here,
1479
01:15:48,533 --> 01:15:50,700
have a big meal
and run away
1480
01:15:51,333 --> 01:15:53,700
and they thought ...
They closed the doors
1481
01:15:53,767 --> 01:15:55,533
and they sharpened their knives
1482
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,233
and I said:
"I am a reporter for the Sunday Times.
1483
01:15:58,300 --> 01:16:01,567
I wrote books. Here's my card.
I'm coming back tomorrow with the money. "
1484
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,000
It was starting to get worse
1485
01:16:04,067 --> 01:16:07,400
when George put his foot on the table.
1486
01:16:07,467 --> 01:16:10,600
He was wearing Indian sandals.
1487
01:16:11,167 --> 01:16:14,300
He asked for a knife and cut his shoe.
1488
01:16:15,133 --> 01:16:19,033
In fact, the Beatles were famous
for four years and,
1489
01:16:19,500 --> 01:16:22,500
like the royal family,
they never had money on them.
1490
01:16:23,133 --> 01:16:25,767
The technicians had the money. They never paid.
1491
01:16:26,500 --> 01:16:29,067
George cut out his sandal
1492
01:16:29,133 --> 01:16:30,733
and took out a ยฃ 20 bill.
1493
01:16:31,433 --> 01:16:33,033
In the space of four years,
1494
01:16:33,100 --> 01:16:35,300
they had become famous
1495
01:16:35,367 --> 01:16:37,000
and multimillionaires on paper
1496
01:16:37,467 --> 01:16:40,233
and wore no more money on them.
He said to himself:
1497
01:16:40,700 --> 01:16:42,400
"One day, I will need money.
1498
01:16:42,467 --> 01:16:44,133
Or I could be in trouble. "
1499
01:16:44,300 --> 01:16:45,467
And it was that evening.
1500
01:16:49,033 --> 01:16:53,500
Brian Epstein organized a party to celebrate Sgt. Pepper.
1501
01:16:53,567 --> 01:16:56,800
The Beatles originally wanted
1502
01:16:57,133 --> 01:17:01,800
make a promotional film
or a concert
1503
01:17:02,033 --> 01:17:05,000
which would correspond to the output
but it didn't happen.
1504
01:17:05,567 --> 01:17:11,067
Brian started playing a lot
1505
01:17:11,533 --> 01:17:13,633
and take too many pills
1506
01:17:13,700 --> 01:17:16,267
and all the rest
and he was starting to get lost.
1507
01:17:16,333 --> 01:17:19,267
Even Cilla Black and her husband
1508
01:17:19,333 --> 01:17:21,667
had said:
"Cilla wants another manager.
1509
01:17:21,733 --> 01:17:23,667
You don't pay attention to anything anymore. "
1510
01:17:23,733 --> 01:17:27,333
He had cried
and had begged her to stay.
1511
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:28,433
Brian was ...
1512
01:17:30,500 --> 01:17:31,367
homosexual.
1513
01:17:32,267 --> 01:17:35,600
And the people in the know had accepted it.
1514
01:17:36,467 --> 01:17:38,633
What was weird was that ...
1515
01:17:40,467 --> 01:17:43,467
Everyone was thinking
that he pinched for Paul,
1516
01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,133
because Paul was the handsome kid of the Beatles.
1517
01:17:46,567 --> 01:17:50,667
But not at all. He was pinching it for John, because he preferred machos.
1518
01:17:51,267 --> 01:17:54,800
When he went hunting in London,
1519
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,433
he was hitting on the boys
who weren't gay.
1520
01:17:59,233 --> 01:18:01,233
He made them drink, he ...
1521
01:18:01,300 --> 01:18:02,600
I found out later.
1522
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:04,533
He brought them back to his pretty house
1523
01:18:05,467 --> 01:18:06,600
to try to sleep with them
1524
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:08,400
and there they beat him up
1525
01:18:09,067 --> 01:18:10,233
and it was his pleasure.
1526
01:18:11,267 --> 01:18:13,167
A masochist. He liked to be hit.
1527
01:18:14,233 --> 01:18:19,033
Then they stole things
1528
01:18:19,100 --> 01:18:22,700
often acetates
and send them to Radio Luxembourg
1529
01:18:22,767 --> 01:18:24,467
and there was panic
1530
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,567
they don't steal jewelry
or money
1531
01:18:27,633 --> 01:18:31,233
but unpublished tapes of the Beatles.
1532
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,667
There was nothing to do for Brian.
1533
01:18:33,733 --> 01:18:36,733
But don't forget
that his company,
1534
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:37,767
NEMS,
1535
01:18:38,267 --> 01:18:42,100
had become the biggest entertainment agency in the world.
1536
01:18:42,167 --> 01:18:44,600
She represented everyone.
1537
01:18:45,100 --> 01:18:48,367
The Beatles, Andy Williams,
the Bee Gees, Cream, Donovan,
1538
01:18:49,067 --> 01:18:53,500
Tony Bennett and all this in the space of three or four years.
1539
01:18:54,633 --> 01:18:58,200
{\ an8} If the Beatles had stopped touring,
which was the case,
1540
01:19:00,267 --> 01:19:02,767
{\ an8} and their registration contract
1541
01:19:04,067 --> 01:19:05,467
was signed, sealed and delivered,
1542
01:19:05,533 --> 01:19:08,133
just like their advertising contract,
1543
01:19:08,300 --> 01:19:12,133
the manager had nothing more to do,
nothing left to negotiate.
1544
01:19:12,467 --> 01:19:15,300
And they were looking at another for personal advice,
1545
01:19:15,367 --> 01:19:18,700
how to live, how to spend their free time,
1546
01:19:18,767 --> 01:19:20,300
how to use their mind.
1547
01:19:20,700 --> 01:19:24,100
He felt more and more abandoned.
He was taking drugs more and more.
1548
01:19:24,167 --> 01:19:28,033
He was looking for more partners
1549
01:19:28,100 --> 01:19:29,100
and became fickle.
1550
01:19:29,667 --> 01:19:31,433
He was moving away from them
1551
01:19:31,500 --> 01:19:34,000
as far as they were from him.
1552
01:19:38,567 --> 01:19:42,300
They joined his movement of Transcendental Meditation
1553
01:19:42,367 --> 01:19:46,033
and have agreed to take these courses in Bangor in North Wales.
1554
01:19:46,500 --> 01:19:49,200
It was a real circus
when they got off the train
1555
01:19:49,267 --> 01:19:52,667
for this improbable environment
1556
01:19:52,733 --> 01:19:54,233
for training.
1557
01:19:54,500 --> 01:19:58,800
This is where they learned
the death of Brian Epstein.
1558
01:19:59,500 --> 01:20:01,433
{\ an8} He was found dead in his room
1559
01:20:01,500 --> 01:20:03,167
{\ an8} around 2 p.m. by his cleaning lady.
1560
01:20:03,233 --> 01:20:04,300
{\ an8} LONDON, AUGUST 27, 1967
1561
01:20:04,367 --> 01:20:06,433
{\ an8} She said he often sleeps late
1562
01:20:06,500 --> 01:20:09,733
especially when he had passed a tiring week at work.
1563
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,600
Yesterday he would have spent the day at home
1564
01:20:12,667 --> 01:20:15,033
as well as the evening, which is quite unusual.
1565
01:20:15,467 --> 01:20:18,033
M. Epstein was sick for a few months
1566
01:20:18,633 --> 01:20:22,067
and he used to to take sleeping pills to sleep.
1567
01:20:22,300 --> 01:20:24,067
Recently, just a month ago,
1568
01:20:24,133 --> 01:20:27,000
he was upset by the sudden death of his father.
1569
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:31,767
Friends tried to persuade him to take a few days off.
1570
01:20:32,333 --> 01:20:35,733
But yesterday, he still said: "I'm on top of the world."
1571
01:20:36,533 --> 01:20:38,733
Half an hour ago, a friend ...
1572
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:40,733
Friends spent the day here.
1573
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:44,400
They came to visit his lawyer, M. David Jacobs.
1574
01:20:44,700 --> 01:20:48,100
One of them left and said to us:
1575
01:20:48,533 --> 01:20:49,600
"It was an accident."
1576
01:20:49,667 --> 01:20:52,533
He was an unhappy man.
1577
01:20:53,333 --> 01:20:56,567
He never had real partners.
1578
01:20:56,667 --> 01:20:59,800
He had had several, some of whom worked for Apple,
1579
01:21:00,033 --> 01:21:03,567
but it never changed
into a real relationship.
1580
01:21:03,633 --> 01:21:08,433
And when it happened, he had the boys and it had gone wrong.
1581
01:21:09,100 --> 01:21:10,233
He was depressed.
1582
01:21:11,233 --> 01:21:14,233
He took pills thinking of suicide.
1583
01:21:15,067 --> 01:21:17,400
He did not commit suicide but ...
1584
01:21:18,033 --> 01:21:20,500
He had attempted suicide
before.
1585
01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:24,800
And that depressed him.
1586
01:21:26,533 --> 01:21:29,200
Would you like to pay tribute to Mr. Epstein?
1587
01:21:29,733 --> 01:21:33,333
We are speechless. We loved it. He was one of us.
1588
01:21:33,667 --> 01:21:37,467
- You can't ... - Not a tribute with words.
1589
01:21:38,300 --> 01:21:39,400
What do you plan to do?
1590
01:21:40,033 --> 01:21:43,600
Go back to London and be useful.
1591
01:21:44,533 --> 01:21:46,800
Do you have a comfort message?
1592
01:21:48,633 --> 01:21:49,600
Yes, we ...
1593
01:21:49,667 --> 01:21:54,333
Meditation has given us enough confidence to endure such an ordeal
1594
01:21:54,467 --> 01:21:56,333
even in such a short time.
1595
01:21:58,167 --> 01:22:01,267
We learned that ...
1596
01:22:02,767 --> 01:22:06,167
Death doesn't really exist.
1597
01:22:06,267 --> 01:22:08,333
It's a death on a physical level but ...
1598
01:22:09,033 --> 01:22:12,467
Life goes on and we have to move on.
1599
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:14,267
But ...
1600
01:22:14,700 --> 01:22:17,567
It's not as disappointing as ...
1601
01:22:18,267 --> 01:22:19,667
It is and it is not.
1602
01:22:20,533 --> 01:22:25,367
which is comforting, is knowing that he's okay now.
1603
01:22:26,733 --> 01:22:31,533
I see you have discussed it with the Maharishi this afternoon.
1604
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,333
What are the tips that he gave you?
1605
01:22:35,467 --> 01:22:36,333
He told us ...
1606
01:22:38,067 --> 01:22:40,533
not to let us overwhelm by grief and ...
1607
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,333
To make our memories with Brian happy times,
1608
01:22:43,767 --> 01:22:48,167
because all our thoughts for him will travel to him.
1609
01:22:48,300 --> 01:22:50,100
He had met Mr. Epstein?
1610
01:22:50,167 --> 01:22:52,267
No, but he couldn't wait to do it.
1611
01:22:53,167 --> 01:22:54,333
- Tomorrow? - Yes.
1612
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:56,233
Thank you very much.
1613
01:22:56,300 --> 01:22:59,433
In this interview,
we can see that John is in shock.
1614
01:22:59,500 --> 01:23:01,733
They were really fascinated
by the Maharishi.
1615
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:05,300
It was not another diversion.
1616
01:23:05,500 --> 01:23:06,700
They believed it.
1617
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:11,533
{\ an8} They were immersed
in this chaotic world.
1618
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,000
{\ an8} Brian was dead.
1619
01:23:13,767 --> 01:23:14,800
And it was ...
1620
01:23:15,033 --> 01:23:16,300
EPSTEIN (THE MAN WHO MADE THE BEATLES)
IS DEAD AT 32
1621
01:23:16,367 --> 01:23:22,667
There is always a moment in our lives where we turn to religion
1622
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:28,467
as a lifestyle, as a philosophy, looking for answers.
1623
01:23:28,733 --> 01:23:31,167
And that's what they did.
1624
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,300
{\ an8} A friend called me very early.
1625
01:23:35,733 --> 01:23:39,067
{\ an8} I couldn't believe it.
1626
01:23:39,133 --> 01:23:43,533
And I said to myself:
"Where are we going now?"
1627
01:23:44,667 --> 01:23:48,033
It was a terrible shock for everyone.
1628
01:23:49,467 --> 01:23:51,300
Where were we going now?
1629
01:23:51,367 --> 01:23:54,600
The Maharishi said to them:
1630
01:23:56,333 --> 01:23:58,267
"Don't worry, he ...
1631
01:23:59,133 --> 01:24:01,100
He took the next step.
1632
01:24:01,633 --> 01:24:04,000
Do not be sad.
1633
01:24:04,300 --> 01:24:07,100
He left
and it will turn into that.
1634
01:24:07,167 --> 01:24:09,333
He charged them all this nonsense.
1635
01:24:10,033 --> 01:24:12,267
Unfortunately,
the Beatles were interviewed
1636
01:24:13,067 --> 01:24:15,033
just after.
1637
01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:19,600
The Maharishi had told them
all these nonsense
1638
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,133
and they passed
for insensitive beings.
1639
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:27,600
Brian's mother and brother Clive,
1640
01:24:28,300 --> 01:24:29,767
were furious because of that.
1641
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:31,733
The impression it gave.
1642
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,433
The week Brian thought
go to Bangor,
1643
01:24:34,667 --> 01:24:36,500
in fact, he stayed at home.
1644
01:24:36,733 --> 01:24:40,367
That weekend,
Robert Stigwood invited me
1645
01:24:40,433 --> 01:24:42,000
to have a drink.
1646
01:24:42,067 --> 01:24:44,067
When I got there, Brian was at home
1647
01:24:44,133 --> 01:24:46,300
and we sat down to watch ...
1648
01:24:46,367 --> 01:24:49,333
We watched sport on TV and we had a few drinks.
1649
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,233
Then we went to Battersea Fun Fair
1650
01:24:51,300 --> 01:24:53,600
and we had fun for two hours.
1651
01:24:53,667 --> 01:24:56,000
We had to smoke,
because we laughed a lot.
1652
01:24:56,067 --> 01:24:57,733
I remember I was laughing
1653
01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:59,700
and one was not without the other.
1654
01:25:00,267 --> 01:25:02,033
Then we went to dinner.
1655
01:25:02,300 --> 01:25:05,367
At the end of the dinner, Brian said to me: "I would like us to do that again.
1656
01:25:05,533 --> 01:25:08,567
You are free ?"
And we organized a dinner the next day.
1657
01:25:08,633 --> 01:25:11,167
The next day, I found Brian at his house
1658
01:25:11,233 --> 01:25:14,567
and we went to Fredericks
for dinner.
1659
01:25:15,067 --> 01:25:18,300
We went home
to have a few drinks.
1660
01:25:18,633 --> 01:25:21,633
And I understood after a few drinks
brandy
1661
01:25:21,700 --> 01:25:23,533
that Brian wanted me to stay.
1662
01:25:23,667 --> 01:25:26,133
But I didn't mean to.
1663
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:30,267
So I said to him, "I'm going."
Brian pouted.
1664
01:25:30,333 --> 01:25:33,067
I said, "Sorry. I'm leaving.
It's like that."
1665
01:25:33,433 --> 01:25:35,433
And he told me ...
I was leaving and he said to me:
1666
01:25:35,500 --> 01:25:37,300
"Can you stay all weekend?"
1667
01:25:37,367 --> 01:25:39,000
And so what ?
1668
01:25:39,067 --> 01:25:42,100
I knew he wanted me to stay
and I didn't want to stay.
1669
01:25:42,167 --> 01:25:45,433
I said, "We'll see later."
The next day, on the phone, he said to me:
1670
01:25:45,500 --> 01:25:47,500
"You come to spend the weekend
in the countryside ?"
1671
01:25:47,567 --> 01:25:49,000
"No, I'm going to Ireland."
1672
01:25:49,433 --> 01:25:51,600
What do we know
on Brian's end of life?
1673
01:25:52,267 --> 01:25:53,133
{\ an8} Not much.
1674
01:25:54,700 --> 01:25:56,133
{\ an8} And we will never know anything.
1675
01:25:57,100 --> 01:26:01,033
{\ an8} I spoke to Jo the next day and she ...
1676
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:04,800
They could not...
1677
01:26:05,267 --> 01:26:06,767
They didn't know he was at home.
1678
01:26:07,300 --> 01:26:09,767
He was supposed to be
to his country house.
1679
01:26:10,067 --> 01:26:13,600
And she got this call
1680
01:26:13,667 --> 01:26:16,767
from the driver saying to him:
"I can't open the door."
1681
01:26:17,333 --> 01:26:21,667
She went there
and she found it.
1682
01:26:22,533 --> 01:26:25,067
I said, at that time:
1683
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:29,500
"I do not understand.
He was so happy there.
1684
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:31,733
Why did he come back?
1685
01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:35,133
Right in the middle of the weekend? "
1686
01:26:36,633 --> 01:26:39,367
But no one will know
what happened. Never.
1687
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:40,700
So...
1688
01:26:42,133 --> 01:26:44,500
You know about Brian and me.
I continue ?
1689
01:26:44,567 --> 01:26:45,667
- Yes.
- Okay.
1690
01:26:46,133 --> 01:26:49,500
While I was in Ireland,
I got a call from a friend
1691
01:26:49,567 --> 01:26:51,200
saying: "Brian Epstein is dead."
1692
01:26:51,700 --> 01:26:54,233
I immediately looked at the newspapers
1693
01:26:54,300 --> 01:26:57,567
and they said he was found that morning died of an overdose.
1694
01:26:57,633 --> 01:27:01,300
I had at home the very first answering machine
1695
01:27:01,367 --> 01:27:04,167
that the company had had
specially for me.
1696
01:27:04,233 --> 01:27:07,333
They were experimenting what we could do with it.
1697
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,700
I had a sixth sense inside me.
1698
01:27:09,767 --> 01:27:13,667
I knew that when I got home
in London i would press the button
1699
01:27:14,033 --> 01:27:15,533
and there would be a message from Brian.
1700
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:18,167
I was sure of it.
I came home and I pressed
1701
01:27:18,300 --> 01:27:20,267
and there were several messages
from Brian.
1702
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,467
He had gone to the countryside
as expected.
1703
01:27:24,033 --> 01:27:26,667
He called my house
when I was not there
1704
01:27:27,033 --> 01:27:30,100
to say to me, "If you're here,
join me in the countryside. "
1705
01:27:30,167 --> 01:27:32,333
Then he said, "I'm going home.
1706
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:33,433
You can pass ?"
1707
01:27:33,500 --> 01:27:36,333
I did not hear these messages.
I was in Ireland.
1708
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:39,500
The messages continued.
They were more and more vague.
1709
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,033
And it was obvious, by listening to them,
1710
01:27:42,100 --> 01:27:44,500
that he had taken pills to sleep.
1711
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:49,067
Each time he woke up, he had to start again
one, forgetting that he had already taken it.
1712
01:27:49,267 --> 01:27:51,400
And the last message was very vague.
1713
01:27:51,467 --> 01:27:54,200
Said, "I wish you were here."
1714
01:27:54,667 --> 01:27:57,333
And other personal things
which I will not repeat.
1715
01:27:57,800 --> 01:27:59,033
Then he died.
1716
01:27:59,633 --> 01:28:01,567
So I was a little involved.
1717
01:28:01,633 --> 01:28:04,700
And I did the stupid thing
what the English do,
1718
01:28:04,767 --> 01:28:06,400
I erased the tape.
1719
01:28:10,100 --> 01:28:11,767
I couldn't listen to them again.
1720
01:28:12,133 --> 01:28:13,000
And There you go.
1721
01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:15,300
I didn't know the value of these things.
1722
01:28:24,467 --> 01:28:29,467
{\ an8} BRIAN SAMUEL EPSTEIN
SEP 19, 1934 - AUGUST 27, 1967
1723
01:28:35,233 --> 01:28:37,667
Brian Epstein was part of it all.
1724
01:28:37,733 --> 01:28:39,367
And it was a real shock,
1725
01:28:39,433 --> 01:28:41,633
because we said to ourselves:
"Will they recover?
1726
01:28:41,700 --> 01:28:43,000
What's going to happen ?"
1727
01:28:45,100 --> 01:28:48,267
In hindsight,
it's as if he had played his part.
1728
01:28:48,767 --> 01:28:52,100
He left
in this other spirit world ...
1729
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:54,667
They were going elsewhere.
1730
01:28:55,733 --> 01:29:00,667
They realized that they had lost
a protective shield.
1731
01:29:00,733 --> 01:29:03,100
Like a protective parent.
1732
01:29:03,533 --> 01:29:07,767
Brian's negotiations weren't
the best for the Beatles.
1733
01:29:09,100 --> 01:29:12,667
Because he was always late,
negotiations already made.
1734
01:29:13,100 --> 01:29:15,500
He didn't understand
this new territory.
1735
01:29:16,300 --> 01:29:21,200
But despite that, he was entirely
dedicated to their protection.
1736
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:23,367
As...
1737
01:29:24,133 --> 01:29:27,300
During the sentence scandal
"more popular than Jesus"
1738
01:29:27,367 --> 01:29:28,467
from John.
1739
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:31,400
Brian wanted to cancel the tour
american
1740
01:29:31,467 --> 01:29:33,300
he was so worried about them.
1741
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:37,167
But, ultimately, contractually,
he couldn't but he wanted to.
1742
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:41,067
That's what was gone, that shield.
A waterproof shield
1743
01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:44,067
that he provided them
as soon as he met them.
1744
01:29:44,467 --> 01:29:48,100
He did everything to help them ...
1745
01:29:49,133 --> 01:29:52,000
Brian's group.
1746
01:29:52,700 --> 01:29:56,567
Pete Brown and the members
from the NEMS office,
1747
01:29:58,133 --> 01:30:00,133
they maintained the Beatles.
1748
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:01,500
They paid their bills,
1749
01:30:02,167 --> 01:30:04,133
they bought gifts
1750
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:06,000
for their girlfriends
and their wives.
1751
01:30:06,067 --> 01:30:07,800
It was said that Brian
was not a good manager.
1752
01:30:08,033 --> 01:30:10,633
He had not been the best
when they had become
1753
01:30:10,733 --> 01:30:12,700
a mega-group
and to earn money.
1754
01:30:13,100 --> 01:30:14,633
But without him,
they never would have existed.
1755
01:30:14,700 --> 01:30:17,167
It was his perseverance ...
His affection for them,
1756
01:30:17,233 --> 01:30:19,567
his certainty that they would pierce
1757
01:30:19,633 --> 01:30:21,000
and that their music was great.
1758
01:30:21,067 --> 01:30:23,267
He did other things
what managers do
1759
01:30:23,333 --> 01:30:24,400
and he did them well.
1760
01:30:24,467 --> 01:30:26,600
How to keep profiteers away from them.
1761
01:30:26,667 --> 01:30:29,267
He built a wall between them and all profiteers.
1762
01:30:29,633 --> 01:30:32,400
Which is weird,
for he never succeeded in erecting a wall
1763
01:30:32,467 --> 01:30:34,567
between himself
and those who took advantage of him,
1764
01:30:34,633 --> 01:30:37,200
who clung to him
and stole money from him.
1765
01:30:37,267 --> 01:30:39,100
He knew how to do it with the Beatles.
1766
01:30:39,167 --> 01:30:40,567
He kept them away.
1767
01:30:40,633 --> 01:30:45,367
So without him ...
Far from his cautious attitude
1768
01:30:45,433 --> 01:30:49,800
facing money and finance which has ...
All the profiteers flocked.
1769
01:30:50,733 --> 01:30:53,200
Sometimes in a group,
we need a referee.
1770
01:30:53,267 --> 01:30:55,700
Few groups are still
agree on everything.
1771
01:30:56,067 --> 01:30:58,700
We saw that with Help!
1772
01:30:58,767 --> 01:31:02,000
when they all go through the same door
and all live together
1773
01:31:02,067 --> 01:31:04,000
but it was only a moment
For the movie.
1774
01:31:04,067 --> 01:31:06,433
Everyone knows that in a group,
1775
01:31:06,733 --> 01:31:09,567
the characters develop.
1776
01:31:10,233 --> 01:31:12,000
And you don't always
the same view
1777
01:31:12,067 --> 01:31:16,467
but you have this thing
that makes it work.
1778
01:31:16,667 --> 01:31:19,067
A consensus
with which each member of the group
1779
01:31:19,133 --> 01:31:22,167
rather agrees and everything is fine.
1780
01:31:22,433 --> 01:31:27,267
When Brian left, there was no longer
referee to supervise.
1781
01:31:27,333 --> 01:31:29,300
They didn't know how to do anything by themselves.
1782
01:31:29,767 --> 01:31:31,400
They had never done anything.
1783
01:31:31,467 --> 01:31:34,067
He was still there.
1784
01:31:36,333 --> 01:31:40,467
In the group, he was the one
who kept it all together.
1785
01:31:41,100 --> 01:31:43,333
They bounced back pretty quickly
1786
01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:45,200
if we think about it logically.
1787
01:31:45,500 --> 01:31:46,667
And they launched Apple.
1788
01:31:46,733 --> 01:31:50,300
{\ an8} Apple was a financial measure to try to consolidate their fortune ...
1789
01:31:50,367 --> 01:31:52,033
{\ an8} INAUGURATION OF APPLE STORE
DEC 1967
1790
01:31:52,100 --> 01:31:55,533
{\ an8} ... and to try to escape at huge taxes
1791
01:31:56,033 --> 01:31:58,467
by investing in a business.
1792
01:31:59,133 --> 01:32:02,200
It was all based on ... And it was a mistake.
1793
01:32:02,667 --> 01:32:07,100
It hadn't been planned to protect their copyright.
1794
01:32:07,567 --> 01:32:10,400
It was a financial measure in the short term.
1795
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:15,633
It was a music label with a secondary affair.
1796
01:32:15,700 --> 01:32:20,267
The Beatles' influence had spread to other areas like fashion.
1797
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:22,267
They were going to have a shop ...
1798
01:32:23,267 --> 01:32:25,033
They were going to do everything.
1799
01:32:25,100 --> 01:32:27,500
But it was also a kind de Conseil Artistique
1800
01:32:27,733 --> 01:32:34,333
where deserving young creators could find help and support.
1801
01:32:34,433 --> 01:32:37,333
Because the Beatles remembered
from the time they were ...
1802
01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:38,633
Where they had ...
1803
01:32:38,700 --> 01:32:40,667
The Beatles have always been supportive.
1804
01:32:41,033 --> 01:32:42,233
It was a legend.
1805
01:32:42,300 --> 01:32:45,267
Brian Epstein, George Martin.
1806
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:48,033
Dick James.
1807
01:32:48,300 --> 01:32:50,367
Three honest men
1808
01:32:50,667 --> 01:32:53,267
who encouraged them
and valued them.
1809
01:32:53,333 --> 01:32:56,733
But they had suffered.
So they were going to help
1810
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,567
the suffering people
of the creative community.
1811
01:32:59,633 --> 01:33:02,267
I interviewed Paul
and he was swarming with ideas
1812
01:33:02,333 --> 01:33:05,100
about a communist Mark and Spencer's.
1813
01:33:05,433 --> 01:33:08,433
And I said to myself:
"It will never work."
1814
01:33:08,567 --> 01:33:11,733
But I also said to myself:
"I'm not so sure."
1815
01:33:12,100 --> 01:33:14,533
Because we said:
"It's very interesting but ...
1816
01:33:16,133 --> 01:33:17,733
it's Paul"
1817
01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:21,533
and they might be right.
It turned out not.
1818
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:25,433
This is how Alice Pollock and Ossie Clark imagine the girls this summer.
1819
01:33:25,500 --> 01:33:27,533
And here are two of the Beatles.
1820
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:30,367
George Harrison ... His wife Patti Boyd paraded.
1821
01:33:30,433 --> 01:33:31,467
And John Lennon.
1822
01:33:37,500 --> 01:33:39,800
From the haircut to the dress
1823
01:33:40,033 --> 01:33:42,567
or the leather outfit called Baz which is worth 25 guineas.
1824
01:33:44,533 --> 01:33:46,300
Patti Boyd carries the African Queen.
1825
01:33:46,567 --> 01:33:48,767
All in crepe and it's worth nine and a half guineas.
1826
01:33:49,133 --> 01:33:52,033
More casual, a white satin jacket and black pants.
1827
01:33:52,167 --> 01:33:53,133
Ten guineas together.
1828
01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:55,800
I worked for the Apple Store
from the start.
1829
01:33:56,433 --> 01:34:01,367
I had been there for three months
when we went to India.
1830
01:34:01,767 --> 01:34:05,767
And it was so different of everything around us.
1831
01:34:06,067 --> 01:34:09,067
To start, the beautiful Indian jewelry
1832
01:34:09,133 --> 01:34:12,767
and Ganesha's posters, of gods and goddesses.
1833
01:34:14,133 --> 01:34:18,267
It was very exciting to work there and it was so different.
1834
01:34:18,333 --> 01:34:22,533
But you always had to stick
to what we felt at that time.
1835
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:25,533
This is...
1836
01:34:26,767 --> 01:34:30,233
The world can be colorful.
It is not necessarily in black and white.
1837
01:34:30,633 --> 01:34:31,700
Have they seen you before?
1838
01:34:32,633 --> 01:34:34,000
- Last night? - Yesterday.
1839
01:34:34,067 --> 01:34:37,400
Yesterday they came to see me for ten minutes.
1840
01:34:39,133 --> 01:34:42,267
And, now, they've been with me for 10 hours.
1841
01:34:43,233 --> 01:34:44,633
After their breakfast.
1842
01:34:45,667 --> 01:34:47,067
How long did they stay?
1843
01:34:47,767 --> 01:34:50,367
From 10 a.m. to now. About three hours.
1844
01:34:51,067 --> 01:34:52,000
What did you do?
1845
01:34:52,067 --> 01:34:53,533
Have you meditated or discussed?
1846
01:34:54,500 --> 01:34:58,300
Meditation, discussion and meditation. They are very intelligent.
1847
01:34:59,133 --> 01:35:03,600
Will they become graduate spiritual guides?
1848
01:35:04,167 --> 01:35:06,000
- What will be their status? - I hope so.
1849
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:09,700
what should they do to achieve this goal?
1850
01:35:10,133 --> 01:35:16,033
To reach this goal, they must have a deep experience of being.
1851
01:35:16,433 --> 01:35:21,333
A doctor said to me, even if it was wrong,
that I suffered from angina.
1852
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:23,100
In fact, it was something else.
1853
01:35:23,167 --> 01:35:25,133
Different people came to see me.
1854
01:35:25,300 --> 01:35:27,767
John and Cynthia came one day,
1855
01:35:28,500 --> 01:35:31,067
and John said: "I made this drawing for you."
1856
01:35:31,467 --> 01:35:35,767
It was the drawing of an Indian with a turban on his head.
1857
01:35:36,267 --> 01:35:40,133
He was playing the flute, sitting on the floor, cross-legged.
1858
01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:43,533
A snake was coming out of a basket placed at his feet.
1859
01:35:43,733 --> 01:35:45,200
There was an inscription:
1860
01:35:45,667 --> 01:35:48,300
"By the power to bring in and bring out,
1861
01:35:48,700 --> 01:35:52,600
I beg your angina to go away. Sincerely, John and Cyn. "
1862
01:35:53,500 --> 01:35:56,400
George often said, "Take LSD
1863
01:35:56,467 --> 01:35:59,767
gave me insights but it was like climbing a mountain,
1864
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:03,300
look on the other side of the summit and see that there are others. "
1865
01:36:03,367 --> 01:36:05,600
He wanted to continue his quest
1866
01:36:06,667 --> 01:36:08,533
but drug free.
1867
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:12,200
And it gave them
a kind of natural break.
1868
01:36:12,267 --> 01:36:16,667
It gave them an excuse
to meet elsewhere, in peace.
1869
01:36:16,733 --> 01:36:19,633
I do not know how
the Maharishi entered their life
1870
01:36:19,700 --> 01:36:21,167
but he was not the first.
1871
01:36:21,633 --> 01:36:24,633
I was often with the group.
1872
01:36:24,700 --> 01:36:27,467
I saw them every night
at the Scotch of St. James.
1873
01:36:27,533 --> 01:36:31,100
We already knew that they saw another person like that.
1874
01:36:31,433 --> 01:36:33,433
The Maharishi came second.
1875
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:36,600
As they went up
the stairs of Indian mysticism,
1876
01:36:36,667 --> 01:36:40,633
they realized that their Maharishi
was not as high up as that.
1877
01:36:41,167 --> 01:36:43,800
So they went to India
with this Maharishi.
1878
01:36:44,500 --> 01:36:46,667
Who, we all knew,
was a bit of an impostor
1879
01:36:46,733 --> 01:36:48,500
and who was not so high up.
1880
01:36:48,633 --> 01:36:51,700
But he had followed them up
in five star hotels.
1881
01:36:52,233 --> 01:36:54,600
It's nice
to adhere to Indian mysticism
1882
01:36:54,667 --> 01:36:59,267
and all its ascetic dimension while doing it in big hotels.
1883
01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:01,167
This is a funny story.
1884
01:37:01,233 --> 01:37:04,133
When they decided to go see the Maharishi in India.
1885
01:37:05,233 --> 01:37:09,633
Maureen was ... Ringo's wife had a blue fear of insects.
1886
01:37:10,267 --> 01:37:14,033
So she went to Harrods
to buy a sleepsuit
1887
01:37:14,100 --> 01:37:15,467
but adult size.
1888
01:37:15,767 --> 01:37:18,100
So that they cannot
climb on it.
1889
01:37:19,300 --> 01:37:23,100
And Richie, who always had fragile stomach
1890
01:37:23,167 --> 01:37:24,600
because of an illness, child,
1891
01:37:25,567 --> 01:37:30,600
said to me: "Can you buy me from Dr. Collis Browne, several liters,
1892
01:37:32,100 --> 01:37:35,067
and white beans in sauce and put it all in a suitcase?
1893
01:37:35,300 --> 01:37:37,367
White beans, Collis Browne. "
1894
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:41,133
So, I obeyed and it was full.
1895
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:44,000
This suitcase full of Collis Browne
and of...
1896
01:37:45,233 --> 01:37:47,133
They returned
two weeks later.
1897
01:37:48,267 --> 01:37:50,633
I said to Maureen:
"It has been a long stay.
1898
01:37:50,700 --> 01:37:53,267
You got rid
of all the white beans? "
1899
01:37:54,167 --> 01:37:56,633
Obviously the concept of Apple
1900
01:37:56,700 --> 01:37:58,367
was born before Brian died.
1901
01:37:58,433 --> 01:38:00,267
He was also worried about that,
1902
01:38:00,333 --> 01:38:04,167
it would take him away even more.
Because he had not been consulted.
1903
01:38:04,233 --> 01:38:06,600
They weren't pushing him out
1904
01:38:06,667 --> 01:38:10,233
but it was not a project who was born at his instigation.
1905
01:38:10,333 --> 01:38:14,000
I heard about Apple a few weeks before his death.
1906
01:38:14,167 --> 01:38:16,633
It was one more element that made him feel
1907
01:38:16,700 --> 01:38:18,333
that he was no longer part of the group.
1908
01:38:19,333 --> 01:38:20,533
When they launched Apple,
1909
01:38:21,667 --> 01:38:25,367
we had lunch at the head office.
1910
01:38:27,333 --> 01:38:30,033
We had a chef and everything.
1911
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:32,700
One day Paul came by
1912
01:38:33,167 --> 01:38:36,400
and they were losing money.
They were giving too much.
1913
01:38:37,333 --> 01:38:42,633
He said, "I brought in a guy
who will tell us where we are wrong
1914
01:38:42,700 --> 01:38:45,267
in our business plans. "
1915
01:38:46,300 --> 01:38:48,400
{\ an8} It was Beeching.
1916
01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:50,800
{\ an8} They invited him to lunch ...
1917
01:38:51,033 --> 01:38:52,733
{\ an8} PRESIDENT OF BRITISH RAILWAYS
1918
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:57,000
{\ an8} ... to use his brain to
understand what they were doing wrong.
1919
01:38:57,500 --> 01:38:59,567
They had lunch
1920
01:39:00,567 --> 01:39:03,700
and I took the notes
at the meeting that followed.
1921
01:39:06,467 --> 01:39:08,733
He looked at Paul and said,
1922
01:39:09,767 --> 01:39:12,533
"I'm not going to help you much.
1923
01:39:12,700 --> 01:39:17,400
Because I work for organizations much larger than Apple. "
1924
01:39:18,033 --> 01:39:20,567
And Paul said to himself, "Oh, my God."
1925
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:25,800
I looked at Paul and said,
"Indeed."
1926
01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:29,300
They had good ideas
but also eccentric ideas.
1927
01:39:29,367 --> 01:39:32,533
They wanted to open a school,
publish books.
1928
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:36,733
A lot of things. Great ambitions.
And they appealed to people:
1929
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:39,500
"Send us your poems,
your stories, your novels. "
1930
01:39:39,567 --> 01:39:42,300
They found themselves
with rooms full of stuff
1931
01:39:42,367 --> 01:39:45,267
without being able to look at them.
They weren't prepared for it.
1932
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:48,700
And here is another area where they were the pioneers.
1933
01:39:48,767 --> 01:39:51,000
They didn't go all the way but they started
1934
01:39:51,067 --> 01:39:53,133
to have more control on their products.
1935
01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:57,067
Check the album covers.
1936
01:39:57,133 --> 01:39:58,800
The appearance of things.
1937
01:39:59,033 --> 01:40:00,800
They controlled their equipment.
1938
01:40:01,033 --> 01:40:04,000
But not as much as the percentage
that we have today.
1939
01:40:04,067 --> 01:40:06,033
Apple's problem
and the Apple Store
1940
01:40:06,100 --> 01:40:08,167
and everything
in this building,
1941
01:40:08,233 --> 01:40:12,000
was that they had money,
they were free,
1942
01:40:12,067 --> 01:40:15,167
they had ideas from India,
ideas of the Maharishi.
1943
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:18,167
And a bunch of profiteers.
1944
01:40:18,367 --> 01:40:20,233
Profiteers who were rather ...
1945
01:40:20,300 --> 01:40:22,267
Who were rather talented.
1946
01:40:22,333 --> 01:40:23,700
Like Magic Alex.
1947
01:40:24,333 --> 01:40:30,100
Who thought it was possible to have
a roll of wallpaper with microphones
1948
01:40:30,500 --> 01:40:32,733
who would give the best sound?
1949
01:40:33,467 --> 01:40:34,533
Magic Alex.
1950
01:40:35,167 --> 01:40:39,533
And of all, John was the most convinced
of his magical talents.
1951
01:40:41,233 --> 01:40:42,100
They were...
1952
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:45,367
We were all naive.
1953
01:40:45,433 --> 01:40:47,567
All of this was a new experience.
1954
01:40:48,733 --> 01:40:51,133
But I think it was great
1955
01:40:51,467 --> 01:40:54,400
they have not been transformed
by celebrity.
1956
01:40:55,333 --> 01:40:57,167
Everyone
who came up with an idea ...
1957
01:40:57,233 --> 01:40:59,267
If someone said:
"I'm making spilled cream",
1958
01:40:59,333 --> 01:41:02,300
John would have said:
"We will eat it at every lunch."
1959
01:41:02,367 --> 01:41:04,700
Anyone could be hired over there.
1960
01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:08,033
So it quickly got crowded. Second-rate people ...
1961
01:41:08,100 --> 01:41:10,500
Very charming but second-rate.
1962
01:41:11,133 --> 01:41:13,133
The same thing happened
with the Boutique.
1963
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:15,167
If you designed clothes
1964
01:41:15,233 --> 01:41:18,133
which was nothing commercial,
so it was for the Boutique.
1965
01:41:18,467 --> 01:41:21,000
Everything they touched at that time
1966
01:41:21,067 --> 01:41:23,233
seemed non-commercial.
1967
01:41:23,300 --> 01:41:27,500
Neil was incredibly conscientious
and a deeply good man.
1968
01:41:29,100 --> 01:41:31,367
And Peter worked hard.
1969
01:41:32,500 --> 01:41:37,000
The office was running smoothly and efficient.
1970
01:41:38,267 --> 01:41:41,233
I had an office between Neil's and Peter's.
1971
01:41:42,233 --> 01:41:46,467
Neil and Mal were working on the start
1972
01:41:46,533 --> 01:41:51,100
from "The Long and Winding Road",
memory of a cassette.
1973
01:41:52,167 --> 01:41:54,500
At that time, I was busy ...
1974
01:41:57,167 --> 01:41:58,633
mail with America.
1975
01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:04,367
All journalists asking:
"Do you have old pictures?"
1976
01:42:05,467 --> 01:42:08,200
It's like that
that we have recovered everything.
1977
01:42:08,267 --> 01:42:10,100
They were very gifted.
1978
01:42:10,467 --> 01:42:15,600
This night,
I was heading for Neil's office.
1979
01:42:16,533 --> 01:42:20,100
Neil and Mal were by the fire.
I will never forget him.
1980
01:42:21,033 --> 01:42:23,267
And I had to go over ...
1981
01:42:23,700 --> 01:42:26,167
I shouldn't say that.
1982
01:42:28,300 --> 01:42:30,300
Over Derek Taylor,
who was fucking on the floor
1983
01:42:30,633 --> 01:42:32,433
and which prevented me from passing.
1984
01:42:32,500 --> 01:42:35,000
The cartoon was making fun a bit of Maharishi.
1985
01:42:35,067 --> 01:42:37,533
does that mean that youโre done with him
1986
01:42:37,767 --> 01:42:41,200
- and you laugh at him? - We have passed this phase.
1987
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:42,733
It was kind of a phase.
1988
01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:45,500
But he's a good man and everyone is fine
1989
01:42:45,567 --> 01:42:47,567
but we don't want any more hang out with him.
1990
01:42:49,333 --> 01:42:53,067
I knew he was an impostor
at first sight.
1991
01:42:53,133 --> 01:42:54,100
I thought to myself, "My God."
1992
01:42:54,467 --> 01:42:56,600
One of the problems ...
And John was the worst,
1993
01:42:56,667 --> 01:42:58,567
because he clung to things.
1994
01:42:58,633 --> 01:43:02,267
He clung to things
and was easily influenced.
1995
01:43:04,167 --> 01:43:07,067
It can be a problem
from which they have been protected.
1996
01:43:07,133 --> 01:43:09,667
They were locked up
in the Beatles for a long time.
1997
01:43:10,167 --> 01:43:11,333
They were...
1998
01:43:11,733 --> 01:43:16,267
I was like, "This guy is a crook."
1999
01:43:16,333 --> 01:43:19,000
I am on
that there is something behind.
2000
01:43:19,067 --> 01:43:22,400
Meditation can provide well-being
for those who like it.
2001
01:43:22,467 --> 01:43:26,133
But I didn't believe it.
And I still don't believe it.
2002
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:30,467
The Beatles believed on the spiritual side of things.
2003
01:43:32,300 --> 01:43:33,733
And they wanted to spread this.
2004
01:43:34,367 --> 01:43:37,233
The Maharishi saw in them
2005
01:43:38,700 --> 01:43:40,733
their international celebrity.
2006
01:43:42,433 --> 01:43:44,433
They could spread his message.
2007
01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:48,267
Originally, their idea was to develop
2008
01:43:48,333 --> 01:43:50,533
a school of Transcendental Meditation in London
2009
01:43:50,733 --> 01:43:52,800
and the Beatles would have been one of them.
2010
01:43:53,767 --> 01:43:56,700
Patti had dreams of the Maharishi
2011
01:43:56,767 --> 01:43:59,433
who were showing it
in a whole different light.
2012
01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:01,333
And ...
2013
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:05,300
And there was a connection to Mia Farrow.
2014
01:44:05,367 --> 01:44:07,300
There were a lot of people.
2015
01:44:07,367 --> 01:44:10,100
But I think they were miles away
2016
01:44:11,267 --> 01:44:13,700
and it was a very different life and he was there,
2017
01:44:14,267 --> 01:44:17,233
to meditate six or seven hours in a row,
2018
01:44:17,300 --> 01:44:19,267
sometimes at night, sometimes for several days.
2019
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:21,300
And it was completely different
2020
01:44:21,367 --> 01:44:25,200
what everyone was used to, especially the Beatles.
2021
01:44:25,267 --> 01:44:28,600
In one way,
the Maharishi had a bad reputation
2022
01:44:28,667 --> 01:44:30,700
but it was rather harmless.
2023
01:44:30,767 --> 01:44:34,500
He was a little strange.
2024
01:44:34,567 --> 01:44:38,333
Today you couldn't say that.
2025
01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:41,133
His character was ridiculous.
2026
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:45,200
And he said things
which cannot be answered
2027
01:44:45,267 --> 01:44:48,233
like "Love each other"
and all that.
2028
01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:52,400
It was an extension
of hippie philosophy.
2029
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:57,000
Poor Maharishi has learned
that his best assets were leaving him
2030
01:44:57,067 --> 01:44:59,300
and he sat
watching them go
2031
01:44:59,367 --> 01:45:02,300
with this man
holding an umbrella above him.
2032
01:45:02,367 --> 01:45:04,233
He said, "Why are you leaving?"
2033
01:45:04,467 --> 01:45:06,000
He really didn't understand.
2034
01:45:06,433 --> 01:45:09,533
I know that
John had a famous reply ...
2035
01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:11,367
I don't remember but he said:
2036
01:45:11,433 --> 01:45:14,333
"If you were so cosmic,
you should know that. "
2037
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:16,267
And it was over.
2038
01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:24,400
{\ an8} CLOSING THE APPLE STORE
JULY 1968
2039
01:45:25,033 --> 01:45:27,467
The Beatles' brief excursion in the trade is over.
2040
01:45:27,633 --> 01:45:30,533
According to them, they are tired of this toy.
2041
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:45,600
I'm all turned upside down. I don't know what I'm doing there.
2042
01:45:45,667 --> 01:45:48,333
I've been here for 7 hours and I got pushed around.
2043
01:45:48,500 --> 01:45:50,400
Upset by the rush?
2044
01:45:50,467 --> 01:45:52,100
I have never seen that.
2045
01:45:52,233 --> 01:45:53,467
I'm from Canada and ...
2046
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:58,400
- What clothes are you looking for? - No idea. Everything.
2047
01:45:58,467 --> 01:46:00,333
- Anything and everything? - Stylish.
2048
01:46:00,767 --> 01:46:02,067
Why are you here?
2049
01:46:02,167 --> 01:46:03,767
No idea. Because it's free.
2050
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:06,267
would you have come if it hadn't been free?
2051
01:46:06,333 --> 01:46:07,467
It's too expensive for me.
2052
01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:08,800
What are you looking for?
2053
01:46:09,500 --> 01:46:11,467
Anything and everything. I'm not fashion.
2054
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:13,400
A dress or pants.
2055
01:46:13,533 --> 01:46:16,100
would you have come if it hadn't been free?
2056
01:46:16,167 --> 01:46:18,467
I've been here before. I bought items.
2057
01:46:18,533 --> 01:46:21,433
Not because it's free but because I like this store.
2058
01:46:21,500 --> 01:46:23,033
You had to ask yourself
2059
01:46:23,633 --> 01:46:26,433
How long
was going to last the relationship between the group
2060
01:46:27,633 --> 01:46:29,267
and the manager?
2061
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:33,467
Then we had to talk to Yoko Ono
2062
01:46:34,667 --> 01:46:38,800
with his growing influence, especially on John.
2063
01:46:39,533 --> 01:46:42,567
Then you watched the Beatles
like a deal.
2064
01:46:43,233 --> 01:46:45,133
Then you think of Allen Klein.
2065
01:46:45,633 --> 01:46:47,800
Which sends you back to perpetual evolution
2066
01:46:48,367 --> 01:46:51,467
Of the history
of this brilliant pop group.
2067
01:47:03,167 --> 01:47:04,133
For me ...
2068
01:47:06,067 --> 01:47:08,733
it's the ultimate album.
2069
01:47:09,633 --> 01:47:13,533
It made so much sense and it still is.
2070
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:16,267
And it continued, once his time is over.
2071
01:47:16,533 --> 01:47:22,200
This is the number one rock album worldwide.
2072
01:47:22,733 --> 01:47:27,133
In my eyes, no Beatles album is bad.
2073
01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:28,200
They're all brilliant.
2074
01:47:28,767 --> 01:47:31,500
But this one is my favorite.
2075
01:47:31,567 --> 01:47:33,533
My favorite, because it's the one for which
2076
01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:35,300
I attended all the stages.
2077
01:47:36,067 --> 01:47:40,133
And he was so revolutionary in its concept and its coverage.
2078
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:41,633
It's my favorite album.
2079
01:47:42,267 --> 01:47:45,500
It was huge, because they had the ability
2080
01:47:45,567 --> 01:47:47,233
to promote them in an extraordinary way.
2081
01:47:47,533 --> 01:47:49,767
And everyone was in their grip.
2082
01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:52,100
We were all captivated by the Beatles.
2083
01:47:52,167 --> 01:47:55,400
No one has ever criticized anything: their cover was great,
2084
01:47:55,467 --> 01:47:57,533
the songs and the presentation too.
2085
01:47:57,600 --> 01:48:00,600
For me, it's a miniature masterpiece.
2086
01:48:00,667 --> 01:48:04,767
It was a pop symphony with wonderful continuity.
2087
01:48:05,367 --> 01:48:10,733
The main stage, the title song at the beginning and at the end.
2088
01:48:11,100 --> 01:48:13,267
Everything went perfectly together.
2089
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:15,033
It was an absolute joy.
2090
01:48:15,100 --> 01:48:18,000
There is something for every mood in the Beatles.
2091
01:48:18,067 --> 01:48:20,800
For posterity, this is the greatest album of all time.
2092
01:48:21,633 --> 01:48:22,600
It's impressive.
2093
01:48:22,667 --> 01:48:26,633
What other group who disappeared 50 years ago
2094
01:48:26,700 --> 01:48:30,400
continues to be listened to by so many generations?
2095
01:48:30,667 --> 01:48:35,733
Listen to the album in mono. Don't think about stereo.
2096
01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:38,300
The Beatles weren't there during assembly.
2097
01:48:38,733 --> 01:48:43,367
They were in India. Where the four of them used to sit,
2098
01:48:43,433 --> 01:48:46,700
and listened to everything and took decisions. It was mono.
2099
01:48:47,333 --> 01:48:50,533
This is the most important thing to say on Sgt. Pepper.
2100
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:55,000
You have an album and there will be ...
2101
01:48:55,067 --> 01:48:56,233
It was years ago.
2102
01:48:57,333 --> 01:49:01,500
There were two or three songs
throughout the album
2103
01:49:01,567 --> 01:49:03,333
that you really like
2104
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:06,367
and the rest of the album ...
it was on the album.
2105
01:49:06,533 --> 01:49:10,600
And you skipped them
when it was still manual.
2106
01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:14,700
The Beatles albums were the reverse.
2107
01:49:14,767 --> 01:49:16,800
Perhaps
a song you liked less
2108
01:49:17,033 --> 01:49:18,533
and you loved everyone else.
2109
01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:21,667
They seized the moment. They grabbed it.
2110
01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:24,433
They were perfect
2111
01:49:24,500 --> 01:49:27,333
and they shot everyone like a locomotive.
2112
01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:29,233
They pulled everyone with them.
2113
01:49:29,667 --> 01:49:31,300
And if they had put
2114
01:49:32,367 --> 01:49:37,633
"Penny Lane" and "Strawberry Fields" on Sgt. Pepper, it would have been different.
2115
01:49:37,700 --> 01:49:41,000
It would have been, literally, the best album of all time.
2116
01:49:41,167 --> 01:49:42,400
I contradict myself.
2117
01:49:42,567 --> 01:49:45,633
Often, I say to myself: "I can't believe it."
2118
01:49:45,700 --> 01:49:50,500
Then I say to myself, "Yes, because ... I knew it would be forever. "
2119
01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:52,200
This music is eternal.
2120
01:49:52,533 --> 01:49:56,700
It's a great window
in an incredible era of change.
2121
01:49:56,767 --> 01:49:59,300
If you study the Beatles
from any angle,
2122
01:49:59,367 --> 01:50:01,367
-white-> you study the 60s
and you study
2123
01:50:02,033 --> 01:50:05,267
the history of the West and its evolution.
2124
01:50:05,333 --> 01:50:06,733
But it's endless.
2125
01:50:07,233 --> 01:50:10,733
Like people who study
Shakespeare for years.
2126
01:50:11,733 --> 01:50:16,000
With the Beatles, there is always -
-white- a feeling of well-being. -
2127
01:50:16,700 --> 01:50:20,367
I said to my friends, -If you are
sad, listen to the Beatles. -
2128
01:50:21,367 --> 01:50:24,100
It helps you see the world
as a better place.
2129
01:50:24,167 --> 01:50:26,300
They have beneficial properties.
2130
01:50:26,367 --> 01:50:30,033
Four boys, it worked.
2131
01:50:30,433 --> 01:50:31,700
-white- And the talent was there.
2132
01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:37,300
I think there will never be
other Beatles.
2133
01:50:38,367 --> 01:50:40,767
It reminds of the Liverpool Echo
2134
01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:43,067
and an article by Brian Epstein.
2135
01:50:43,767 --> 01:50:47,300
He said, -I think the Beatles
will be taller than Elvis. -
2136
01:50:48,167 --> 01:50:50,033
Everyone laughed saying:
2137
01:50:50,100 --> 01:50:54,033
-How a group from Liverpool
coming out of the Cavern scene,
2138
01:50:54,233 --> 01:50:56,500
with all that leather and everything,
could become
2139
01:50:56,800 --> 01:50:58,133
taller than Elvis? -
2140
01:50:58,200 --> 01:51:00,667
Elvis is on the other side, in America.
2141
01:51:00,733 --> 01:51:02,500
The biggest star in the world.
2142
01:51:03,167 --> 01:51:07,200
History has proven that he was right.
The largest group of all time.
2143
01:51:07,267 --> 01:51:08,667
He had seen something in them.
2144
01:51:08,733 --> 01:51:11,267
The Beatles were embarrassed
compared to that,
2145
01:51:11,333 --> 01:51:13,733
because there were other good bands
in Liverpool.
2146
01:51:14,167 --> 01:51:16,500
-Bigger than Elvis? Let's see ...-
2147
01:51:17,300 --> 01:51:18,267
Brian was right.
2148
01:51:19,033 --> 01:51:22,567
Still today,
charisma and excitement
2149
01:51:22,633 --> 01:51:24,700
caused by the name "Beatles" ...
2150
01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:29,167
Not just in Liverpool
but worldwide:
2151
01:51:29,233 --> 01:51:33,100
Mexico, South America, Japan,
Germany, everywhere.
2152
01:51:33,533 --> 01:51:36,133
A small island in Samoa ...
2153
01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:39,400
You mention the name "Beatles"
and it's euphoria.
2154
01:51:39,467 --> 01:51:40,333
This is...
2155
01:51:41,133 --> 01:51:42,800
This is the legacy they left behind.
2156
01:51:43,033 --> 01:51:45,333
Will someone else overtake
this heritage?
2157
01:51:45,400 --> 01:51:46,267
Only god knows.
2158
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:48,433
It's a sacred heritage.
2159
01:51:48,733 --> 01:51:53,333
And it's wonderful
to have been a small part of it.
2160
01:52:04,633 --> 01:52:06,533
538 DAYS AFTER RELEASE
FROM SGT PEPPER,
2161
01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:08,667
THE BEATLES ARE GOING OUT
A DOUBLE ALBUM CONTAINING
2162
01:52:08,733 --> 01:52:11,500
30 NEW SONGS
IN AN ALL-WHITE POUCH ...
2163
01:52:11,567 --> 01:52:16,233
IT BECOME NUMBER ONE
IN THE WHOLE WORLD...
2164
01:53:42,033 --> 01:53:43,567
Where's the dog's whistle?
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