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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,400 AUGUST 1966 THE BEGINNING OF AN EXTRAORDINARY YEAR ... 2 00:01:46,700 --> 00:01:50,333 It was easy to forget that London had experienced the war 22 years earlier. 3 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,567 There was this England that we recognize 4 00:01:53,633 --> 00:01:56,333 thanks to black and white photos and images 5 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,800 and there was this new era, the multicolored one, 6 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:03,200 and the Beatles were at the forefront. 7 00:02:17,567 --> 00:02:20,233 - Are you looking forward to going on tour? - Yes. 8 00:02:20,667 --> 00:02:24,067 This religious controversy, you don't want to talk about it too much 9 00:02:24,133 --> 00:02:26,433 but do you worry in the USA ? 10 00:02:26,500 --> 00:02:31,067 Yes, that worries me, but I hope everything will go well. 11 00:02:31,133 --> 00:02:33,300 Do you think it will be a controversial tour 12 00:02:33,367 --> 00:02:34,500 as in the Philippines? 13 00:02:34,567 --> 00:02:36,067 - No. - Not really. 14 00:02:36,133 --> 00:02:37,300 It will be alright. 15 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,733 - What makes you say that ? - It will be fine. You will see. 16 00:02:46,100 --> 00:02:48,067 The Klan, we are going to demonstrate 17 00:02:48,133 --> 00:02:51,200 in different ways to end this concert. 18 00:02:51,267 --> 00:02:52,133 {\ an8} COME HOME 19 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,000 {\ an8} In front of the Coliseum, a small group of protesters ... 20 00:02:55,067 --> 00:02:56,200 HUNT THE COMMUNISM 21 00:02:56,267 --> 00:02:58,167 {\ an8} ... was the only visible sign. 22 00:02:59,500 --> 00:03:02,667 Let's not forget that the Beatles were a planetary phenomenon. 23 00:03:04,733 --> 00:03:08,167 The Beatles were also important a meeting of heads of state 24 00:03:08,233 --> 00:03:11,100 or state leaders in one room. 25 00:03:11,167 --> 00:03:12,667 What does it do ? 26 00:03:12,733 --> 00:03:14,533 You can say "hello"? 27 00:03:14,767 --> 00:03:15,667 Hello. 28 00:03:15,733 --> 00:03:17,300 Say hello". 29 00:03:17,367 --> 00:03:18,233 Hello ! 30 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,733 John, are you sorry for your words? 31 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,733 Yes. 32 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:25,067 I think it's true. 33 00:03:25,267 --> 00:03:27,333 {\ an8} This group was much more popular. 34 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:28,267 {\ an8} JOURNALIST 35 00:03:28,333 --> 00:03:30,667 {\ an8} I'm not going to use the two words, "J.C.", 36 00:03:31,033 --> 00:03:34,667 {\ an8} but they were much more popular than the Church of England and religion. 37 00:03:34,733 --> 00:03:36,800 Without a doubt. 38 00:03:37,033 --> 00:03:38,633 This is where the trouble started, 39 00:03:38,700 --> 00:03:42,633 in this tiny studio on the top floor of WAQY Station, 40 00:03:42,700 --> 00:03:48,033 the "wacky radio" of 750,000 inhabitants from Birmingham, Alabama. 41 00:03:48,333 --> 00:03:50,467 The disc jockey and manager, Tommy Charles, 42 00:03:50,533 --> 00:03:52,133 read in Datebook, 43 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,733 John Lennon's remarks on Christianity, 44 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,767 remarks that had gone unnoticed when they came out in England. 45 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,033 {\ an8} If we think about it to the impact of Jesus in the great era, 46 00:04:03,100 --> 00:04:05,533 {\ an8} 300 people must have heard of him. 47 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,533 {\ an8} In terms of industry, even to this day, 48 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,733 in what it represents for society, 49 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,033 and especially in Europe, the Beatles are more important. 50 00:04:15,100 --> 00:04:15,800 But you know, 51 00:04:16,567 --> 00:04:19,733 America was, at that time, obsessed with Jesus. 52 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:20,800 JESUS โ€‹โ€‹IS DEAD FOR YOU, JOHN LENNON 53 00:04:21,033 --> 00:04:22,633 Regarding the objective of this meeting, 54 00:04:22,700 --> 00:04:25,633 I thank God. Jesus Christ matters to me, 55 00:04:25,700 --> 00:04:28,633 because he saved me 31 years ago. 56 00:04:29,367 --> 00:04:32,467 All the people here for whom it matters, say "Amen". 57 00:04:32,533 --> 00:04:34,067 Amen! 58 00:04:34,133 --> 00:04:36,333 {\ an8} They weren't qualified to speak 59 00:04:36,667 --> 00:04:41,033 {\ an8} of the price of milk, let alone the state of the world. 60 00:04:41,100 --> 00:04:43,500 {\ an8} They were sponges. They absorbed things ... 61 00:04:43,567 --> 00:04:44,433 {\ an8} BEATLES SPECIALIST 62 00:04:44,500 --> 00:04:46,767 {\ an8} ... emotions in such a way 63 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,300 {\ an8} they felt to age twice as fast. 64 00:04:50,367 --> 00:04:52,200 {\ an8} I know Brian was worried ... 65 00:04:52,267 --> 00:04:53,500 {\ an8} SECRETARY OF BRIAN EPSTEIN 66 00:04:53,567 --> 00:04:55,733 {\ an8} ... before they leave for the United States. 67 00:04:57,433 --> 00:05:00,700 But it was so innocent for John. 68 00:05:00,767 --> 00:05:03,500 They were so large. 69 00:05:03,700 --> 00:05:08,133 More people wanted to see the Beatles that go to church. 70 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,500 Are you worried of what could happen 71 00:05:10,567 --> 00:05:12,133 to the Beatles over there? 72 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:13,067 {\ an8} AUGUST 1966 73 00:05:13,133 --> 00:05:15,067 {\ an8} - I'm worried. - What about ? 74 00:05:15,500 --> 00:05:16,367 {\ an8} Security. 75 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,467 {\ an8} What do you suggest to protect them? 76 00:05:19,633 --> 00:05:22,467 There is not much we can do. 77 00:05:22,533 --> 00:05:25,200 They have always benefited, in this country, 78 00:05:25,667 --> 00:05:28,133 maximum security and tours have always been 79 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,167 very well organized 80 00:05:32,033 --> 00:05:33,567 and I hope everything will be fine. 81 00:05:34,233 --> 00:05:36,000 {\ an8} They burned albums in Memphis ... 82 00:05:36,067 --> 00:05:36,767 {\ an8} AUTHOR / JOURNALIST 83 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,500 {\ an8} ... and these singers were afraid to get killed. 84 00:05:39,567 --> 00:05:42,667 {\ an8} We say to ourselves: "Something is happening which escapes me. " 85 00:05:42,733 --> 00:05:45,700 Most critics came from the Bible Belt 86 00:05:46,133 --> 00:05:49,700 and we wonder if you are going change the Beatles route 87 00:05:50,133 --> 00:05:52,033 to avoid areas where radios 88 00:05:52,100 --> 00:05:54,333 burn their albums and photos. 89 00:05:54,700 --> 00:05:56,300 It's unlikely. 90 00:05:57,133 --> 00:06:00,067 I met several promoters, this morning, 91 00:06:00,367 --> 00:06:03,567 and, after this conference, I meet others 92 00:06:05,067 --> 00:06:10,133 who think that no concert will be canceled. 93 00:06:11,133 --> 00:06:14,167 In fact, if one of the promoters was very worried 94 00:06:14,233 --> 00:06:17,800 and wanted to cancel a concert, 95 00:06:18,267 --> 00:06:20,233 I would not object. 96 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,433 Besides, the Memphis concert, 97 00:06:24,500 --> 00:06:26,800 closest to ... 98 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,733 from where it all started, 99 00:06:30,367 --> 00:06:34,567 apparently sold more tickets yesterday, than he had done to date. 100 00:06:34,633 --> 00:06:37,300 Tony Barrow alerted Datebook 101 00:06:37,367 --> 00:06:39,167 of the existence of these interviews. 102 00:06:39,433 --> 00:06:42,200 {\ an8} He contacted Art Unger, the publisher, and he said ... 103 00:06:42,267 --> 00:06:43,133 {\ an8} AUTHOR OF THE BEATLES '66 104 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,033 {\ an8} ... "You'll love these interviews. They will please you. " 105 00:06:46,100 --> 00:06:48,733 But Art Unger had the idea to send them 106 00:06:49,367 --> 00:06:51,033 to some animators followers of controversies. 107 00:06:51,100 --> 00:06:53,333 He knew it would annoy some DJs. 108 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,100 He sent them to these DJs in Birmingham, Alabama 109 00:06:57,167 --> 00:07:00,433 and it annoyed them well and this is where it all started. 110 00:07:02,033 --> 00:07:04,400 {\ an8} WASHINGTON DC, AUGUST 15, 1966 111 00:07:10,633 --> 00:07:13,267 They hate you. Did you see that ? 112 00:07:13,467 --> 00:07:17,733 I saw a similar version of what you talk about in the article. 113 00:07:19,267 --> 00:07:22,500 If it makes other people happy, so it makes me happy. 114 00:07:23,133 --> 00:07:26,600 But there are not as many people upset as I thought. 115 00:07:28,733 --> 00:07:30,667 And not so upset as that. 116 00:07:30,733 --> 00:07:33,500 {\ an8} Brian Epstein wanted to cancel the tour, 117 00:07:34,333 --> 00:07:36,800 {\ an8} but they decided to continue if John apologized 118 00:07:37,033 --> 00:07:39,033 {\ an8} and he did so reluctantly. 119 00:07:39,100 --> 00:07:41,033 {\ an8} Forced apologies. 120 00:07:41,100 --> 00:07:44,333 {\ an8} In fact, I was referring to England ... 121 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:45,567 {\ an8} CHICAGO, AUGUST 11, 1966 122 00:07:45,633 --> 00:07:50,667 {\ an8} ... where we count more than Jesus or religion for children. 123 00:07:51,067 --> 00:07:54,600 I was not tapping on it or to belittle it. 124 00:07:55,433 --> 00:07:59,233 I was just exposing a fact, and that's more true for England only here. 125 00:08:00,033 --> 00:08:02,700 I am not saying that we are better or larger, 126 00:08:02,767 --> 00:08:05,700 I don't compare us to Jesus Christ as a person 127 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,500 or to God as an entity or whatever it is. 128 00:08:08,567 --> 00:08:11,800 I said what I said and I was wrong. Or it has been misinterpreted. 129 00:08:12,033 --> 00:08:15,567 And George said, "I don't care. They will buy new albums 130 00:08:15,633 --> 00:08:17,533 to replace the ones they burned. " 131 00:08:18,167 --> 00:08:19,700 What do you think 132 00:08:19,767 --> 00:08:21,800 of this group that gives their point of view? 133 00:08:22,033 --> 00:08:24,533 Is it possible in their position? 134 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:25,600 Absolutely. 135 00:08:25,667 --> 00:08:28,133 I never suggested to them to do otherwise. 136 00:08:28,567 --> 00:08:30,533 Did you suggest John apologize? 137 00:08:31,567 --> 00:08:35,667 We discussed it and it was a mutual feeling. 138 00:08:36,233 --> 00:08:39,067 I never gave orders to boys, 139 00:08:39,700 --> 00:08:45,367 whether it's musical, artistic or on positions. 140 00:08:46,467 --> 00:08:47,333 They... 141 00:08:47,567 --> 00:08:52,233 We all have our opinion and I contribute a fifth. 142 00:08:52,567 --> 00:08:58,633 It happened in the end of a very long world tour 143 00:08:58,700 --> 00:09:01,333 where horrible things had arrived at the Beatles. 144 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,733 {\ an8} Death threats in Japan, rowdy in the Philippines ... 145 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,433 {\ an8} BACK FROM THE PHILIPPINES, JULY 1966 146 00:09:06,500 --> 00:09:08,767 {\ an8} ... for apparently snubbing the First Lady, Imelda Marcos, 147 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,167 {\ an8} by not going to a ceremony she was giving. 148 00:09:11,233 --> 00:09:13,033 {\ an8} It was too much. 149 00:09:13,100 --> 00:09:13,800 {\ an8} WE LOVE YOU LENNON 150 00:09:14,033 --> 00:09:16,467 {\ an8} They were afraid of being murdered. 151 00:09:16,533 --> 00:09:18,533 This is what was germinating 152 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,733 in people's minds. 153 00:09:21,533 --> 00:09:23,600 What happened at Manila Airport? 154 00:09:23,667 --> 00:09:26,367 We were jostled and heckled by some monkeys 155 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,133 and we were very scared. 156 00:09:29,667 --> 00:09:31,233 Really scared? 157 00:09:32,433 --> 00:09:34,567 We were terrified. 158 00:09:35,067 --> 00:09:36,333 Yes it was... 159 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:38,600 It was serious. There were approximately 160 00:09:38,667 --> 00:09:42,033 five weird and beefy guys 161 00:09:42,100 --> 00:09:44,500 with weapons and all the equipment. 162 00:09:44,567 --> 00:09:47,367 - Who heckled us. - They were there... 163 00:09:47,433 --> 00:09:49,467 Yes, it was obvious. 164 00:09:49,533 --> 00:09:52,700 They were there to make us pass a dirty quarter of an hour 165 00:09:52,767 --> 00:09:54,733 before our departure. 166 00:09:55,567 --> 00:09:58,700 So we hurried. 167 00:09:58,767 --> 00:10:01,367 Personally, I avoided them. 168 00:10:01,433 --> 00:10:03,400 They were the only ones to look for trouble. 169 00:10:03,467 --> 00:10:05,800 There were five of them. The rest were calm. 170 00:10:06,033 --> 00:10:08,800 Did you have to carry your luggage in the airport ? 171 00:10:09,033 --> 00:10:10,600 Our hand luggage, yes. 172 00:10:11,033 --> 00:10:13,267 Our managers took the bags. 173 00:10:13,333 --> 00:10:16,067 - Because they know ... - They turned off the escalator 174 00:10:16,133 --> 00:10:17,433 and we had to wear them. 175 00:10:17,500 --> 00:10:19,567 - To top it all. - Very clever. 176 00:10:19,633 --> 00:10:22,133 How many people were involved? 177 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:23,700 About thirty. 178 00:10:24,167 --> 00:10:26,467 I say 30 and George says five. 179 00:10:26,533 --> 00:10:30,700 It looked like a small army who came to beat us. 180 00:10:30,767 --> 00:10:33,733 There were ten other people behind the crowd 181 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,700 who were booing us and we were looking for them to see them 182 00:10:36,767 --> 00:10:39,767 and there were only young people all smiles, about 18. 183 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,333 All these guys basically like the Gestapo booing us. 184 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,333 The real protesters. 185 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:46,800 It was an ambush 186 00:10:47,033 --> 00:10:49,533 where they were just waiting to fight. 187 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,133 They jostled us. If we had done something ... 188 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,300 - That's enough. - Yes. 189 00:10:54,367 --> 00:10:56,800 Apart from the Philippines, did you like this trip? 190 00:10:57,033 --> 00:10:59,533 Yes, a great tour. 191 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,367 Except this morning. 192 00:11:01,767 --> 00:11:04,500 - Yes. - Japan was wonderful. 193 00:11:04,567 --> 00:11:06,333 - And Delhi was good. - Yes. 194 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,167 Wonderful people in Japan, all our meetings. 195 00:11:10,233 --> 00:11:12,000 They took possession of Manila during the war. 196 00:11:13,767 --> 00:11:16,100 Will you be playing in the Philippines? 197 00:11:16,167 --> 00:11:17,667 - No. - I will never go again. 198 00:11:17,733 --> 00:11:21,000 I will no longer board a plane for Manila. Never. 199 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,567 When they left Manila for Delhi, 200 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,533 they spoke for the first time 201 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,500 to give up touring. Brian was very upset, 202 00:11:29,567 --> 00:11:32,033 because he saw that it would be useless 203 00:11:32,100 --> 00:11:34,367 if they just stayed in the studio. 204 00:11:34,433 --> 00:11:38,433 What would be its place? It existed mainly in the tours 205 00:11:38,500 --> 00:11:41,167 to prepare and accompany the Beatles. 206 00:11:41,233 --> 00:11:42,800 And he liked show biz. 207 00:11:43,033 --> 00:11:47,033 He loved the theater. He had been to RADA, so he liked the theatrical side. 208 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,500 Passing directly from their lodges to the security zone, 209 00:11:50,567 --> 00:11:53,100 the Beatles appeared for their second concert, 210 00:11:53,167 --> 00:11:56,667 every step carefully watched by Captain Barney Hicks police, 211 00:11:56,733 --> 00:12:00,033 82 men working overtime paid 30 shillings an hour. 212 00:12:00,367 --> 00:12:04,100 There was pure madness and this for years around the Beatles. 213 00:12:04,467 --> 00:12:06,533 The most surprising, is that they were playing the game. 214 00:12:06,767 --> 00:12:09,333 They did what was expected of them. 215 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:12,067 When you think temperament and ego 216 00:12:12,133 --> 00:12:14,467 of today's small rock bands, 217 00:12:14,533 --> 00:12:16,767 what the Beatles endured 218 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,500 for the common good, because they were told to do it, 219 00:12:21,133 --> 00:12:22,733 including John, was extraordinary. 220 00:12:23,433 --> 00:12:25,700 While the Beatles' private plane is coming ... 221 00:12:25,767 --> 00:12:27,100 {\ an8} MEMPHIS, AUGUST 19, 1966 222 00:12:27,167 --> 00:12:29,200 {\ an8} ... it draws away hundreds of fans 223 00:12:29,267 --> 00:12:32,500 {\ an8} and goes to a deserted area reserved for the National Guard. 224 00:12:32,567 --> 00:12:36,600 Some teenagers managed to pass the safety cords. 225 00:12:45,700 --> 00:12:47,667 Worried about their visit to the south, 226 00:12:48,033 --> 00:12:51,600 the Beatles could at least console themselves with the success of this tour. 227 00:12:52,033 --> 00:12:53,567 Halfway through the concerts, 228 00:12:53,633 --> 00:12:56,367 they had already cashed over $ 500,000 229 00:12:56,433 --> 00:12:59,667 and their latest single "Yellow Submarine" sold for a million. 230 00:12:59,733 --> 00:13:01,233 Your first trip here? 231 00:13:01,733 --> 00:13:03,500 No, we have been to Texas before. 232 00:13:04,733 --> 00:13:06,567 Where are you going next? 233 00:13:07,367 --> 00:13:09,233 Cincinnati, I believe, yes. 234 00:13:09,300 --> 00:13:12,000 How long are you staying in the USA ? 235 00:13:12,067 --> 00:13:14,500 About two weeks. 236 00:13:14,567 --> 00:13:15,700 - Two more weeks ? - Yes. 237 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:18,200 What did you eat? 238 00:13:19,500 --> 00:13:20,600 Not much. 239 00:13:20,667 --> 00:13:21,633 Not much. 240 00:13:22,100 --> 00:13:25,433 - I have to go. It's hot. - Okay. Thank you so much. 241 00:13:27,233 --> 00:13:30,233 BEATLE STREET FOUR BOYS WHO MOVE THE WORLD 242 00:13:32,100 --> 00:13:35,233 They came out of the lodges making the head. 243 00:13:35,300 --> 00:13:37,733 John said: "We should never have done that. 244 00:13:38,333 --> 00:13:41,000 {\ an8} - Never. " - They had two numbers one. 245 00:13:41,367 --> 00:13:43,200 {\ an8} Return to a tiny club ... 246 00:13:43,267 --> 00:13:46,667 {\ an8} But they promised to do another concert. Well, good luck. 247 00:13:46,733 --> 00:13:48,133 One lodge. 248 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,400 Big as a phone booth. 249 00:13:50,667 --> 00:13:53,200 We were in it. The Beatles too 250 00:13:53,267 --> 00:13:55,400 and someone else too and ... 251 00:13:55,767 --> 00:13:58,033 They were not delighted. 252 00:13:58,100 --> 00:13:59,167 But they held on. 253 00:13:59,533 --> 00:14:01,067 John was crying with laughter. 254 00:14:01,133 --> 00:14:03,600 There was a piano on stage with a blanket over it. 255 00:14:03,667 --> 00:14:07,000 {\ an8} "Why are you laughing?" "King Size Taylor has left his mark." 256 00:14:07,167 --> 00:14:09,800 {\ an8} The Beatles are mounted, the girls were screaming 257 00:14:10,033 --> 00:14:11,333 and, there, power failure. 258 00:14:12,467 --> 00:14:14,133 Except a very small bulb. 259 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,533 A small light bulb on the stage, Do you remember ? 260 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:18,600 - Yes. - No power, nothing at all. 261 00:14:18,667 --> 00:14:20,400 We all said to ourselves: "And now ?" 262 00:14:20,467 --> 00:14:22,767 So, Paul, it looks like him, jumped on the piano 263 00:14:23,467 --> 00:14:28,567 and started singing this little song with John in acoustics. 264 00:14:28,633 --> 00:14:31,767 We could hear the acoustic guitar a bit. 265 00:14:32,100 --> 00:14:34,633 For years, it was believed that Paul 266 00:14:34,700 --> 00:14:36,767 had taken over an old song from his father 267 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,333 from the 20s, because that was what it reminded us of. 268 00:14:40,567 --> 00:14:43,767 But when the album came out Sgt. Pepper ... 269 00:14:46,100 --> 00:14:47,167 It was incredible. 270 00:14:47,733 --> 00:14:49,800 We heard this song in 1963. 271 00:14:50,433 --> 00:14:54,300 It doesn't matter if people don't like our albums, our style 272 00:14:54,700 --> 00:14:55,667 or our words. 273 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:57,767 They have the right not to love us 274 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,433 and we have the right not to want to rub shoulders with them 275 00:15:00,500 --> 00:15:02,467 if we don't want to. 276 00:15:03,167 --> 00:15:06,367 We all have rights. 277 00:15:14,467 --> 00:15:16,167 Towards the end, it was madness. 278 00:15:16,233 --> 00:15:19,000 {\ an8} They could be anywhere. They were in a room ... 279 00:15:19,067 --> 00:15:19,767 {\ an8} FAN CLUB SECRETARY 280 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,133 {\ an8} ... and this piece could be in Wales or Tokyo. 281 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,067 They didn't know it. It was just a hotel. 282 00:15:27,767 --> 00:15:30,567 It's hard to believe but the songs of Revolver 283 00:15:30,633 --> 00:15:33,133 that could be played on stage these days, 284 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,767 they never imagined playing them 285 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,533 and they played few titles from Rubber Soul on stage. 286 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,267 They didn't play anything Revolver even if it was their last album 287 00:15:41,333 --> 00:15:44,367 {\ an8} - during their last tour. - In addition to rock 'n' roll, 288 00:15:44,433 --> 00:15:47,567 {\ an8} they have developed their own melody 289 00:15:47,633 --> 00:15:51,700 {\ an8} and they needed to hear the tangles of songs. 290 00:15:51,767 --> 00:15:55,233 And when they were playing, they heard nothing. 291 00:15:55,300 --> 00:15:57,733 I was in New York for the Yardbirds 292 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:01,167 when the biggest tour of the Beatles was in New York. 293 00:16:01,433 --> 00:16:02,467 Brian was there. 294 00:16:02,533 --> 00:16:06,200 I did not work with him but I knew what was going on, 295 00:16:06,267 --> 00:16:10,000 and Brian and the group wanted a maximum of 15,000 spectators 296 00:16:10,067 --> 00:16:13,367 for sound problems. They wanted be able to play and be heard 297 00:16:13,433 --> 00:16:15,200 and not be stifled by screams. 298 00:16:15,267 --> 00:16:17,333 But the police didn't believe it. 299 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,000 They knew there would be between 100,000 and 200,000 people, 300 00:16:20,067 --> 00:16:22,167 even if it was a room 10,000 places. 301 00:16:22,233 --> 00:16:26,267 Very dangerous to have 10,000 people inside and 90,000 outside. 302 00:16:26,333 --> 00:16:30,233 So it was not a promoter, of a greedy group or manager. 303 00:16:30,300 --> 00:16:32,467 It was the police and their authorization. 304 00:16:32,533 --> 00:16:35,467 They were captive. Imprisoned by the tour. 305 00:16:35,533 --> 00:16:37,733 They freed themselves when they returned. 306 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,100 They went around the world by plane. 307 00:16:40,167 --> 00:16:42,100 People were screaming. 308 00:16:42,167 --> 00:16:44,333 They didn't even get along. They said to themselves: 309 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,000 "We didn't start this for that. 310 00:16:47,067 --> 00:16:50,533 We started this for fun. No more fun. " 311 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:55,600 John told me about it in detail at a dinner in New York in 1980. 312 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,733 He told me that, when they were playing "Twist and Shout", 313 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,100 he had changed the words in an insult, 314 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,000 what he found hilarious. 315 00:17:06,300 --> 00:17:11,333 First, because it was funny and also because no one heard it. 316 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,667 The first row was filled children in wheelchairs. 317 00:17:16,433 --> 00:17:18,600 John, in particular, was panicked. 318 00:17:18,667 --> 00:17:22,767 He had a terrible phobia physical disability 319 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,733 but these poor children were taken to their lodges 320 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:31,500 after the concert as if they were saints who could heal people. 321 00:17:31,567 --> 00:17:35,167 Sometimes worse, some people grabbed an armchair 322 00:17:35,233 --> 00:17:39,167 when they did not know the child to go to the lodges. 323 00:17:39,233 --> 00:17:41,333 It was a horrible scene 324 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,300 and they were doing with it. It was amazing. 325 00:17:44,367 --> 00:17:45,500 They were obedient. 326 00:17:45,567 --> 00:17:49,333 George said a lot that they weren't progressing musically, 327 00:17:49,533 --> 00:17:53,000 because they were still progressing playing in front of an audience 328 00:17:53,067 --> 00:17:55,033 with whom they had an intimate return 329 00:17:55,367 --> 00:17:57,333 and, to date, they no longer saw their audience. 330 00:17:57,400 --> 00:17:59,733 At Candlestick Park, they were in a cage, 331 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,633 literally in a cage on stage. 332 00:18:02,433 --> 00:18:04,333 We are far from the Cavern, right? 333 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:09,067 We were working with machines which regulated the volume, the tone ... 334 00:18:11,067 --> 00:18:13,600 and the bass, those three buttons. 335 00:18:13,667 --> 00:18:16,067 We didn't have all these buttons 336 00:18:16,133 --> 00:18:19,700 and all these computers, those flashing lights. 337 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,733 The Beatles contract said 338 00:18:23,167 --> 00:18:28,100 that the promoter had to provide two or three microphones 339 00:18:28,167 --> 00:18:30,367 and adequate lighting. 340 00:18:30,433 --> 00:18:33,600 Songs like "Eleanor Rigby", even if they had played them 341 00:18:33,667 --> 00:18:37,267 would not have had an answer from the public. 342 00:18:37,333 --> 00:18:40,800 It was not a song that makes you jump or dance 343 00:18:41,167 --> 00:18:44,333 and the critics said that it was too dark a subject: 344 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,467 churches, single women, death and all that. 345 00:18:47,700 --> 00:18:49,333 Not in the Beatles style. 346 00:18:49,667 --> 00:18:52,333 For a long time, the Beatles were able, 347 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,200 thanks to their immense popularity in the whole world 348 00:18:55,267 --> 00:18:56,767 and especially among young people, 349 00:18:57,533 --> 00:19:00,367 say what they meant 350 00:19:00,433 --> 00:19:01,800 without giving importance 351 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,300 at judgment, at maturity or the wisdom of the words. 352 00:19:06,367 --> 00:19:07,567 He is just honest. 353 00:19:08,300 --> 00:19:09,800 His answers are light 354 00:19:10,100 --> 00:19:13,100 and his attitude is very strange, sometimes. 355 00:19:13,167 --> 00:19:15,100 we never know whether he is honest or not. 356 00:19:15,467 --> 00:19:18,467 How did this tour, because of this fuss, is it different? 357 00:19:18,633 --> 00:19:19,500 Is it? 358 00:19:20,733 --> 00:19:21,600 Paul? 359 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,067 Not really. Itโ€™s just more hectic. 360 00:19:26,267 --> 00:19:28,600 Press conferences are a little meaner. 361 00:19:29,733 --> 00:19:31,800 When we last came, we said 362 00:19:32,033 --> 00:19:33,600 that our responses were light. 363 00:19:34,233 --> 00:19:35,467 They are not this time? 364 00:19:35,533 --> 00:19:38,600 Apparently the questions are more serious this time. 365 00:19:39,100 --> 00:19:40,767 It had no impact on sales. 366 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,567 Sales are ... People who come to concerts 367 00:19:43,633 --> 00:19:46,300 were the same except for the Memphis concert 368 00:19:46,500 --> 00:19:49,433 which was a little less full but whatever... 369 00:19:49,667 --> 00:19:52,667 There was an interesting change in the music industry 370 00:19:52,733 --> 00:19:54,533 in 1966 and 1967. 371 00:19:54,733 --> 00:19:57,200 It was the beginning of use of the word "rock". 372 00:19:57,267 --> 00:19:58,633 Never heard before. 373 00:19:59,300 --> 00:20:03,767 In 1967, the event of the year was the Monterey Pop Festival. 374 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,067 "Pop" was a buzzword and who was at this festival? 375 00:20:07,133 --> 00:20:09,167 People we would call rock stars. 376 00:20:09,233 --> 00:20:10,633 Little by little, that year, 377 00:20:10,700 --> 00:20:13,567 the press has started to use the word "rock" 378 00:20:13,633 --> 00:20:16,200 and they applied it to all groups 379 00:20:16,267 --> 00:20:18,500 who did not depend by authors of Tin Pan Alley 380 00:20:18,567 --> 00:20:22,433 and groups that played their own music with real musicians. 381 00:20:22,500 --> 00:20:24,267 Most bands like this 382 00:20:24,333 --> 00:20:27,100 wanted to give themselves a reputation as protesters 383 00:20:27,167 --> 00:20:29,200 letting hair grow 384 00:20:29,267 --> 00:20:31,767 and the Stones were the first. 385 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,100 Then the Who knew how to pass from pop to rock. 386 00:20:35,167 --> 00:20:37,600 Will you iron albums Beatles? 387 00:20:37,667 --> 00:20:40,567 The people of Capitol Records who distribute these albums 388 00:20:40,633 --> 00:20:44,033 in this country asked me to. Brian Epstein wanted to know 389 00:20:45,167 --> 00:20:47,300 when the ban would be lifted, 390 00:20:48,033 --> 00:20:50,467 because everyone expect a gesture from us 391 00:20:50,533 --> 00:20:53,567 and wanted to know what to do. I have no price. 392 00:20:53,633 --> 00:20:56,567 I don't ask the Beatles anything. 393 00:20:56,633 --> 00:20:57,533 I do not know. 394 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:02,200 I want them to make me change my mind on them. 395 00:21:02,267 --> 00:21:03,633 I want to see them... 396 00:21:05,100 --> 00:21:07,500 I do not know, I want to see them grow a little. 397 00:21:07,567 --> 00:21:11,000 Disc jockey Tommy Charles at the origin of this protest said 398 00:21:11,133 --> 00:21:14,200 that he would no longer play your albums until you grow up. 399 00:21:14,267 --> 00:21:15,500 What do you think ? 400 00:21:15,567 --> 00:21:17,733 I do not care that he no longer passes our titles. 401 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,133 Here is the problem : 402 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,033 when we say things like that, 403 00:21:22,333 --> 00:21:23,800 we are accused of being childish. 404 00:21:24,033 --> 00:21:27,167 We don't say something like that unless you're an idiot child. 405 00:21:27,233 --> 00:21:29,300 Do you feel that the Americans 406 00:21:29,367 --> 00:21:31,800 transform this in a witch hunt? 407 00:21:32,033 --> 00:21:35,133 Do you agree to talk about Vietnam in America ? 408 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,800 - Is it really useful? - I do not know. 409 00:21:37,033 --> 00:21:38,533 If we can say that war is useless 410 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,067 and let a few people believe us, then it is useful. 411 00:21:41,133 --> 00:21:43,067 But we cannot say it too much. Pity. 412 00:21:43,133 --> 00:21:44,500 It's stupid to be in America 413 00:21:44,567 --> 00:21:47,367 and not to talk about Vietnam. 414 00:21:47,433 --> 00:21:50,367 But why you? You are there to entertain us. 415 00:21:50,433 --> 00:21:54,233 Americans always ask to the stars what they think. 416 00:21:54,300 --> 00:21:55,533 Like the English. 417 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,167 It's show biz. 418 00:21:57,467 --> 00:22:00,233 You can't shut up on what's going on 419 00:22:00,300 --> 00:22:02,533 in the world unless you are a monk. 420 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,667 My apologies to the monks! But I think so ... 421 00:22:07,333 --> 00:22:10,700 {\ an8} They took the reins of what had already started ... 422 00:22:10,767 --> 00:22:11,633 {\ an8} SISTER OF JOHN LENNON 423 00:22:11,700 --> 00:22:16,433 {\ an8} ... the adolescent revolution as a full human being. 424 00:22:16,500 --> 00:22:20,200 The Swinging London was a huge movement. 425 00:22:20,267 --> 00:22:22,000 Based on the counter-culture: 426 00:22:22,067 --> 00:22:25,733 everyone had long hair, beards and mustaches 427 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,367 and everything else. They were going to the UFO Club and other places like that. 428 00:22:29,433 --> 00:22:32,333 All the psychedelic stuff with the Pink Floyd. 429 00:22:32,500 --> 00:22:35,767 There were mini skirts, new trends, boutiques 430 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,400 and everything else and it was changing all the time. 431 00:22:39,467 --> 00:22:41,533 I was a model for Foale and Tuffin 432 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,533 {\ an8} but we also had a store and, when I was not wearing the clothes ... 433 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:46,467 {\ an8} SISTER OF PATTI BOYD 434 00:22:46,533 --> 00:22:47,800 {\ an8} ... I worked there 435 00:22:48,033 --> 00:22:51,000 {\ an8} and the boys from the shops from Carnaby Street came 436 00:22:51,067 --> 00:22:53,367 and we shared the albums. 437 00:22:53,433 --> 00:22:56,533 We were not interested to music and style. 438 00:22:57,067 --> 00:23:00,400 It all started when Paul had his motorcycle accident 439 00:23:00,733 --> 00:23:03,767 and broke the front tooth and opened her lip 440 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:09,067 the day before the clips were filmed from "Rain" and "Paperback Writer". 441 00:23:09,667 --> 00:23:13,667 He let his mustache grow not to be embarrassed 442 00:23:13,733 --> 00:23:15,467 by his broken tooth. 443 00:23:17,100 --> 00:23:19,700 He didn't think about going to the dentist. 444 00:23:19,767 --> 00:23:22,267 He used chewing gum to hide it 445 00:23:22,633 --> 00:23:27,500 and he let his mustache grow to cover his war wound. 446 00:23:28,433 --> 00:23:31,267 The others thought it was cool 447 00:23:31,333 --> 00:23:33,033 and they did the same. 448 00:23:33,467 --> 00:23:37,667 Suddenly, the whiskers and stuff like that, 449 00:23:38,133 --> 00:23:41,000 drugs and a different vision of the world ... 450 00:23:41,433 --> 00:23:43,633 Everything you do as a musician, 451 00:23:43,700 --> 00:23:47,167 it comes out in your songs, in one way or another. 452 00:23:47,567 --> 00:23:49,767 There is always a link with your experience. 453 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,800 We were smoking weed at the time 454 00:23:52,367 --> 00:23:54,433 and it changes your perception. 455 00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:58,267 It makes it fall a number of walls. 456 00:23:58,533 --> 00:24:01,233 We protested against the state 457 00:24:01,733 --> 00:24:04,167 and we stayed in touch with our creativity. 458 00:24:04,500 --> 00:24:07,567 They were constantly trying to detach from this image 459 00:24:07,633 --> 00:24:09,033 of the four well-groomed fluff. 460 00:24:09,300 --> 00:24:11,767 It was one of the reasons behind all this: 461 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,600 to be different, to dress differently, look like adults. 462 00:24:15,700 --> 00:24:17,767 Will the Beatles split up? 463 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,000 Absolutely not. 464 00:24:19,367 --> 00:24:22,000 In the article of the day, is it true 465 00:24:22,067 --> 00:24:24,000 that they plan to separate? 466 00:24:24,067 --> 00:24:25,100 Not at all. 467 00:24:25,467 --> 00:24:27,600 Why is there not of planned tours 468 00:24:27,667 --> 00:24:29,667 for Christmas and America next year ? 469 00:24:29,733 --> 00:24:32,333 They are involved in several projects. 470 00:24:32,733 --> 00:24:34,467 John Lennon is making a film. 471 00:24:35,433 --> 00:24:39,333 Paul writes music for a new Hayley Mills film. 472 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:40,467 And... 473 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:42,467 I do not... 474 00:24:42,533 --> 00:24:44,467 They will be in this country 475 00:24:44,533 --> 00:24:46,800 at the end of December ... November. 476 00:24:47,167 --> 00:24:49,567 They will record other albums and ... 477 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,733 They are working on the next film. 478 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,700 Will there be any changes in their work ? 479 00:24:56,767 --> 00:24:58,467 Will there be fewer tours? 480 00:25:00,767 --> 00:25:01,633 It's possible. 481 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:06,733 As I have said, there will be no significant changes 482 00:25:07,100 --> 00:25:09,767 but the Beatles have always progressed 483 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,633 and to progress, you have to change. 484 00:25:12,133 --> 00:25:16,033 They had a nice antenna. They could bounce back quickly. 485 00:25:16,100 --> 00:25:17,733 It's a way of doing things 486 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,167 and it was part of their education. 487 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:21,267 And they were ... 488 00:25:21,700 --> 00:25:23,000 They were... 489 00:25:23,467 --> 00:25:26,533 Apart from "Penny Lane" and "Strawberry Fields", 490 00:25:27,367 --> 00:25:28,600 they did not get caught for Americans. 491 00:25:28,667 --> 00:25:31,167 They were no longer pseudo-Americans. 492 00:25:31,233 --> 00:25:33,533 They did not have an American accent. 493 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,233 Paul's father said: "Why say 'yeah'? 494 00:25:36,300 --> 00:25:37,433 Why not 'yes'? " 495 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,433 They used their own culture, 496 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,700 what is interesting and "Penny Lane" is ... 497 00:25:44,767 --> 00:25:46,733 These are two fantastic songs. 498 00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:50,667 In fact, the real tragedy of Sgt. Pepper, 499 00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:53,467 is that these songs are not there. 500 00:25:53,533 --> 00:25:54,400 PENNY LANE BARBER 501 00:25:54,467 --> 00:25:57,767 It would have been a fantastic album. They should have 502 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,000 add them by saying: "Two songs from before." 503 00:26:01,067 --> 00:26:03,133 And these are the best. 504 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,267 "Penny Lane" and "Strawberry Fields Forever". 505 00:26:05,333 --> 00:26:10,700 A very specific: the very precise image by Paul McCartney on the 1950s 506 00:26:10,767 --> 00:26:13,533 in a district of Liverpool that they knew well. 507 00:26:14,433 --> 00:26:18,167 Another slightly more surreal from John 508 00:26:18,667 --> 00:26:21,533 but which gives an impression likelihood. 509 00:26:21,733 --> 00:26:26,367 John's surreal vision from a place he knew as a child. 510 00:26:26,733 --> 00:26:28,467 {\ an8} When they stopped touring ... 511 00:26:28,533 --> 00:26:29,433 {\ an8} OFFICIAL BIOGRAPHER 512 00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:31,600 {\ an8} ... they were responsible for themselves. 513 00:26:31,767 --> 00:26:34,567 {\ an8} They did Sgt. Pepper in their own way 514 00:26:34,733 --> 00:26:39,467 and they started to ignore Brian Epstein who no longer controlled them. 515 00:26:39,667 --> 00:26:42,000 They started to work with George Martin. 516 00:26:42,233 --> 00:26:44,333 George looked after technical aspects. 517 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,600 He gave his opinion but they did what they wanted. 518 00:26:48,067 --> 00:26:51,100 George Martin said it very quickly. 519 00:26:51,267 --> 00:26:54,700 When the tours ended, Brian felt helpless. 520 00:26:54,767 --> 00:26:57,433 On tour, he didn't do much. 521 00:26:57,500 --> 00:27:00,667 He was with them. Everything was organized 522 00:27:00,733 --> 00:27:02,167 by the local promoter 523 00:27:02,333 --> 00:27:04,167 but he was traveling with them. 524 00:27:04,233 --> 00:27:06,067 He had the impression to be part of the group. 525 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,600 After that, he couldn't find his place 526 00:27:08,667 --> 00:27:10,433 in the studio. 527 00:27:10,500 --> 00:27:13,167 He never helped create a song. 528 00:27:13,233 --> 00:27:14,400 He was not George Martin 529 00:27:14,467 --> 00:27:18,333 and he felt completely neglected at once. 530 00:27:19,067 --> 00:27:20,033 And that wiped it out. 531 00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:23,267 He started taking more drugs, to play more 532 00:27:24,033 --> 00:27:27,667 and he felt that their relationship 533 00:27:27,733 --> 00:27:29,600 had been deeply damaged. 534 00:27:29,667 --> 00:27:33,333 Brianโ€™s role, like theirs, had changed 535 00:27:33,500 --> 00:27:38,633 but for me, he will always be the fifth Beatle. 536 00:27:39,367 --> 00:27:42,300 He drove them from the Cavern to world scenes. 537 00:27:42,667 --> 00:27:45,333 In early 1967, as they ... 538 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:50,000 As they had made pieces played during the rave at Roundhouse, 539 00:27:50,367 --> 00:27:52,567 and, as far as I know, 540 00:27:52,633 --> 00:27:55,033 only Mark Lewisohn heard them 541 00:27:55,100 --> 00:27:57,633 but apparently they just hit 542 00:27:57,700 --> 00:28:01,533 loudly ... a kind of tin can, 543 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,433 a table, anything in the studio for seven minutes ... 544 00:28:06,533 --> 00:28:09,333 There was this idea that everything they did, 545 00:28:09,500 --> 00:28:11,500 especially when it wasnโ€™t forced, 546 00:28:11,567 --> 00:28:14,167 was worth gold, artistically speaking, 547 00:28:14,233 --> 00:28:15,767 but this was not always the case. 548 00:28:16,167 --> 00:28:18,733 Just a problem. They said to themselves, "Now what?" 549 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,167 They had been better group on tour, best pop group. 550 00:28:22,233 --> 00:28:25,133 They had written the biggest songs, 551 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,100 still leading the charts. 552 00:28:27,167 --> 00:28:28,500 Where to go now? 553 00:28:28,567 --> 00:28:31,400 The only way to progress, is to make great art. 554 00:28:31,467 --> 00:28:34,233 "We have to experience something else, go higher. 555 00:28:34,300 --> 00:28:36,167 If we can't become a rock band, 556 00:28:36,233 --> 00:28:38,800 we could make pop a great art, 557 00:28:39,033 --> 00:28:40,633 great music, a big painting. " 558 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,033 This is what they must have said to each other. 559 00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:44,733 "No need to do anything else. 560 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,533 No need to release a new one Revolver full of pop. 561 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,067 We have to do something breathtaking. " 562 00:28:50,133 --> 00:28:51,300 And they did. 563 00:28:51,700 --> 00:28:54,600 I listened to "Strawberry Fields" and I was amazed. 564 00:28:55,500 --> 00:28:58,133 And I told my editor. 565 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,500 The Beatles are still progressing 566 00:29:00,733 --> 00:29:02,400 and I thought it was incredible. 567 00:29:02,467 --> 00:29:05,767 A huge jump from "Love Me Do" or something else. 568 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,033 No one could say 569 00:29:08,100 --> 00:29:11,767 if "Penny Lane" were to pass "Strawberry Fields" but it was likely, 570 00:29:12,167 --> 00:29:15,633 because John had taken the plunge in writing a title on Liverpool and Paul ... 571 00:29:16,233 --> 00:29:19,567 There was a magnificent competitive spirit between John and Paul. 572 00:29:20,367 --> 00:29:22,167 They were pulling themselves up. 573 00:29:22,233 --> 00:29:24,300 In all friendship, they said to themselves: 574 00:29:24,367 --> 00:29:26,367 "I want to have the A side of the single." 575 00:29:26,533 --> 00:29:29,200 Or "He did that. I'm going to do that." It was fantastic. 576 00:29:29,267 --> 00:29:32,000 Without any animosity ... 577 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:33,700 They were trying to be the best. 578 00:29:33,767 --> 00:29:37,533 The plan was to start over and write a whole album on Liverpool. 579 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,467 They had considered to do something, 580 00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:44,233 maybe an album related to Liverpool. 581 00:29:45,233 --> 00:29:49,533 Of course, they had "Penny Lane" in reserve and "Strawberry Fields" 582 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,633 and "A Day in the Life". 583 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,400 And George Martin said: 584 00:29:56,467 --> 00:29:58,433 "You are silent for too long." 585 00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:00,067 They gave him that 586 00:30:00,133 --> 00:30:02,233 insisting on having a double face A. 587 00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:05,500 As a double face A, it divided the sales 588 00:30:05,567 --> 00:30:07,433 and they were only number two. 589 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,467 Meanwhile, in Liverpool, 590 00:30:10,533 --> 00:30:12,467 there was a group, the Hillsiders, 591 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,100 and the manager, Spencer Lloyd Mason, 592 00:30:15,533 --> 00:30:20,067 had noticed that one of the members had found a fabulous title 593 00:30:20,133 --> 00:30:21,567 that they wanted to record. 594 00:30:21,633 --> 00:30:26,333 They sent it to their manager AandR at Decca, Noel Walker, 595 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,467 who also came from Merseyside, and said: 596 00:30:28,533 --> 00:30:31,200 "We want to record this with an orchestra. " 597 00:30:31,267 --> 00:30:33,167 It was a title called "Release Me". 598 00:30:33,367 --> 00:30:35,700 Instead of saving it with the Hillsiders, 599 00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:39,267 he passed the title on to someone for whom it was the ideal title, 600 00:30:39,333 --> 00:30:40,633 at Engelbert Humperdinck 601 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,000 and it became number one 602 00:30:43,067 --> 00:30:45,200 and he prevented the Beatles to be in the lead 603 00:30:45,267 --> 00:30:47,367 for the first time from several albums. 604 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,567 The fault of a group from Liverpool. 605 00:30:49,633 --> 00:30:52,467 The Liverpool themed album, 606 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,033 there was enough with "Strawberry Fields" and "Penny Lane" 607 00:30:56,333 --> 00:30:58,000 for more than one album. 608 00:30:58,167 --> 00:30:59,633 They did it with a single. 609 00:30:59,700 --> 00:31:03,200 They did it in a magnificent single double-sided A. 610 00:31:03,267 --> 00:31:05,567 {\ an8} ABBEY ROAD STUDIOS DECEMBER 1966 611 00:31:05,633 --> 00:31:07,533 {\ an8} - A word, please? - Yes. 612 00:31:08,467 --> 00:31:11,267 {\ an8} Will the Beatles split in 1967? 613 00:31:11,767 --> 00:31:14,367 They can work solo or together. 614 00:31:14,433 --> 00:31:16,767 We are linked to each other whatever we do. 615 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,267 Is there a moment where you haven't worked together? 616 00:31:21,100 --> 00:31:23,300 It happened during a period 617 00:31:23,367 --> 00:31:25,800 but we end always by coming together. 618 00:31:26,033 --> 00:31:29,000 You need others to get ideas 619 00:31:29,567 --> 00:31:31,800 and we get along very well. 620 00:31:32,033 --> 00:31:35,300 Are you going to make movies on your side next year? 621 00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:39,367 I don't want to make a career out of it. I did it because I liked it 622 00:31:39,433 --> 00:31:43,133 and that I accepted Dick Lester's proposal. 623 00:31:43,500 --> 00:31:46,267 I would not have done it if it hadn't pleased others. 624 00:31:46,333 --> 00:31:48,400 They said, "Okay." We were on vacation. 625 00:31:48,467 --> 00:31:50,600 Do others have this kind of ambition? 626 00:31:50,733 --> 00:31:52,700 No, nobody is really interested. 627 00:31:52,767 --> 00:31:54,200 I am not so interested. 628 00:31:54,267 --> 00:31:56,333 - What do you want to do ? - No idea. 629 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,500 I want to do a few things. 630 00:31:58,667 --> 00:32:00,667 You haven't decided what yet? 631 00:32:01,133 --> 00:32:02,467 I will try several things 632 00:32:02,533 --> 00:32:07,000 but I learned more about the movies by doing this. 633 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,700 Collaborating to write, 634 00:32:09,767 --> 00:32:11,567 you will continue? 635 00:32:11,633 --> 00:32:15,133 Yes, we will continue to write all of our lives, 636 00:32:15,367 --> 00:32:18,300 whatever happens, because you can't stop. 637 00:32:18,367 --> 00:32:21,333 We end up writing, whether we want it or not. 638 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,700 Do you think the tours, like those in America 639 00:32:23,767 --> 00:32:26,000 or the one in England, the fans ... 640 00:32:26,067 --> 00:32:29,700 There comes a time when it doesn't work anymore, 641 00:32:29,767 --> 00:32:33,500 because it no longer fits to our recordings or our films. 642 00:32:33,567 --> 00:32:36,667 They knew they were taking big risks in 1966 and 1967. 643 00:32:36,733 --> 00:32:39,300 They did not know if people would follow them, 644 00:32:39,667 --> 00:32:42,500 if it would work and they calculated: 645 00:32:42,567 --> 00:32:44,733 "We risk losing a big market share. 646 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,233 We are too daring. " 647 00:32:46,300 --> 00:32:48,533 HOW I WON THE WAR 648 00:33:11,333 --> 00:33:13,400 Then they decided it would become 649 00:33:13,467 --> 00:33:16,400 what's called a concept album 650 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,400 like Frank Zappa had made one, Freak Out, 651 00:33:19,467 --> 00:33:22,100 and McCartney was enthusiastic to this idea. 652 00:33:22,167 --> 00:33:26,033 As Ringo said later, they made two other pieces 653 00:33:26,100 --> 00:33:28,533 and they said to themselves: "Forget the concept album. 654 00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:29,600 Let's make other pieces. " 655 00:33:30,267 --> 00:33:34,233 But, of course, they have been strangely articulated. 656 00:33:34,300 --> 00:33:38,500 It was a mix of Beatles adventurers 657 00:33:38,567 --> 00:33:40,567 and sentimental at the same time. 658 00:33:40,633 --> 00:33:42,767 These different elements are in the album. 659 00:33:43,167 --> 00:33:47,067 And John, weirdly, is the one who associated them 660 00:33:47,133 --> 00:33:50,000 not only with his masterpiece ... 661 00:33:50,167 --> 00:33:51,800 His masterpiece "A Day in the Life" 662 00:33:52,433 --> 00:33:55,533 but he also provided small pieces 663 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,667 who seem to be part from "A Day in the Life" 664 00:33:57,733 --> 00:34:00,133 and Paul's "Lovely Rita". 665 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,233 So, that sounds like a concept 666 00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:06,233 even if they didn't think make a concept album. 667 00:34:06,300 --> 00:34:07,500 - Paul. - Yes ? 668 00:34:07,567 --> 00:34:08,767 - Good evening. - Good evening. 669 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,367 - Don Edwards, ITN. - It's okay ? 670 00:34:10,433 --> 00:34:13,433 A word ? Stop touring, do you worry? 671 00:34:15,167 --> 00:34:16,033 I do not know. 672 00:34:16,100 --> 00:34:17,633 - I do not think so. - Really ? 673 00:34:17,700 --> 00:34:22,733 In fact, for us, it's a performance 674 00:34:23,467 --> 00:34:26,200 and this performance has declined. 675 00:34:26,267 --> 00:34:28,200 We are not progressing if nobody hears us. 676 00:34:28,267 --> 00:34:29,733 You understand ? So, for us, 677 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,733 giving a concert is difficult. More and more each time. 678 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,767 They don't listen to you then you want to stop. 679 00:34:36,133 --> 00:34:38,733 We want to continue but if we are not listened to 680 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,667 and if we don't get along, 681 00:34:40,733 --> 00:34:43,633 we cannot improve, you can't get better. 682 00:34:44,367 --> 00:34:47,333 We try to improve with others things like recording. 683 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,500 It took months and months and an astronomical sum. 684 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,233 Again, that was part ... 685 00:34:53,300 --> 00:34:58,033 It wasn't just Sgt. Pepper. The other great albums of the time 686 00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:01,367 turned the market upside down saying that 687 00:35:01,433 --> 00:35:03,433 the single was the only thing that mattered 688 00:35:03,500 --> 00:35:06,500 and then the album served as a backdrop. 689 00:35:06,567 --> 00:35:08,800 There was the single and a few things 690 00:35:09,033 --> 00:35:11,700 with the name of the single like Please Please Me. 691 00:35:11,767 --> 00:35:14,433 At the moment, the album started to become 692 00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:19,333 the point of concentration groups and pop groups. 693 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,200 They were making albums and singles were born from it. 694 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,333 - Hello. - Merry Christmas ! 695 00:35:24,567 --> 00:35:25,800 - It's okay ? - Good. 696 00:35:26,033 --> 00:35:27,600 - Some questions ? - Yes. 697 00:35:27,667 --> 00:35:29,333 - This side. - Which side ? 698 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,533 - This one. - Good evening. 699 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,500 - You are very handsome. - Thank you. I took a bath. 700 00:35:33,567 --> 00:35:37,400 Why are the Beatles going less work together this year? 701 00:35:39,067 --> 00:35:40,333 We don't ... 702 00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:43,333 If we do things together, every four, 703 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,000 it will be as usual. 704 00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:49,700 - You don't want to? - We don't want to redo what we did. 705 00:35:50,067 --> 00:35:52,433 With the film, 706 00:35:52,500 --> 00:35:55,467 there is no decent script or weโ€™re looking for one. 707 00:35:56,467 --> 00:35:57,400 If we don't succeed, 708 00:35:57,467 --> 00:36:00,233 we will do something different. 709 00:36:00,300 --> 00:36:02,133 - Alone ? - Yes, but... 710 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,600 It is not a separation. We will always meet again. 711 00:36:06,233 --> 00:36:08,100 - Thank you very much. - Thank you. 712 00:36:08,167 --> 00:36:10,800 - You will work ? - It depends on the others. 713 00:36:11,267 --> 00:36:13,700 It's tea time, I hope. 714 00:36:14,167 --> 00:36:17,700 Paul had started to work on the idea of โ€‹โ€‹a ghost group. 715 00:36:18,300 --> 00:36:21,800 It consists of inventing a group: "We are this group. 716 00:36:22,033 --> 00:36:23,200 And not the Beatles. " 717 00:36:25,033 --> 00:36:26,267 How are you ? 718 00:36:26,333 --> 00:36:27,667 - I... - A word ? 719 00:36:27,733 --> 00:36:29,800 - Yes. - Just a question : 720 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,667 do you think that this year 721 00:36:31,733 --> 00:36:33,733 are you going to separate? 722 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,600 - No. - No ? 723 00:36:35,667 --> 00:36:37,133 No. Not at all. 724 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,300 And another word? 725 00:36:39,633 --> 00:36:41,200 These are already your words. 726 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,533 They were tired of being the Beatles. 727 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:45,700 They were not tired 728 00:36:46,700 --> 00:36:48,100 to exist as a Beatles 729 00:36:48,167 --> 00:36:51,400 but the name "Beatles" was starting to oppress them 730 00:36:51,467 --> 00:36:54,367 and they had the idea to create an alter ego 731 00:36:54,433 --> 00:36:56,467 who would be called Sgt. Pepper 732 00:36:56,533 --> 00:36:59,667 and that matched the trend military tunics. 733 00:36:59,733 --> 00:37:01,700 It was in the mid-1960s. 734 00:37:02,133 --> 00:37:03,433 If you look closely, 735 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,700 there is a photo of Paul's father, Jim McCartney, 736 00:37:07,767 --> 00:37:11,333 who had a small group in the 20-30s in Liverpool. 737 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,000 He played the piano by ear in the Jim Mac Jazz Band. 738 00:37:15,067 --> 00:37:17,800 There is a photo of them at the end of the 1920s 739 00:37:18,167 --> 00:37:20,733 and they surrounded a bass drum 740 00:37:21,100 --> 00:37:24,233 and it sounds like the concept of Sgt. Pepper, 741 00:37:25,133 --> 00:37:26,000 without marijuana. 742 00:37:27,267 --> 00:37:33,367 They became the precursors of a joke in the world of rock 'n' roll. 743 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,433 How long can we spend in a studio for a project 744 00:37:36,633 --> 00:37:38,133 and how much can we spend? 745 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,533 The Beatles were in the studio for Sgt. Pepper 746 00:37:42,300 --> 00:37:46,533 and everyone said: "It must be super exciting." 747 00:37:47,300 --> 00:37:52,000 The most boring period in all my life. 748 00:37:52,667 --> 00:37:57,600 We used to record in a few days, sometimes a week. 749 00:37:58,333 --> 00:38:00,233 Revolver took a few weeks 750 00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:03,633 but Sgt. Pepper dragged on, 751 00:38:04,233 --> 00:38:06,000 because they hadn't written it together. 752 00:38:07,033 --> 00:38:10,767 The only one who was prepared for the studio, it was Paul. 753 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,267 When they were in the studio, no woman was allowed, 754 00:38:14,333 --> 00:38:15,767 not even the wives. 755 00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:17,567 You know, they ... 756 00:38:17,633 --> 00:38:20,767 Even during tours. It was like that. 757 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,300 The boys were leaving. 758 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,667 I think it's Chris O'Dell who had the guts to say: 759 00:38:26,733 --> 00:38:28,367 "Can I come to a session?" 760 00:38:28,633 --> 00:38:30,400 We never imagined 761 00:38:30,467 --> 00:38:33,300 be able to attend a recording. 762 00:38:33,367 --> 00:38:37,100 People wonder why groups have more time to record. 763 00:38:37,167 --> 00:38:39,233 It's not record label money. 764 00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:42,767 An advance on the group's royalties. So the record company doesn't care. 765 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,000 Often, the record company worries. "We give them time. 766 00:38:46,067 --> 00:38:48,200 If they don't make a tube, we will pay for them. " 767 00:38:48,267 --> 00:38:51,167 A successful group, we give them all the time they want. 768 00:38:51,233 --> 00:38:53,267 They pay. It's taken from their royalties. 769 00:38:53,333 --> 00:38:55,233 It is not explained to the groups. 770 00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:57,700 They think to use record label money 771 00:38:57,767 --> 00:39:00,733 and, meanwhile, they have enough money 772 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,467 to buy drugs and do stuff in the studio 773 00:39:03,533 --> 00:39:08,167 that don't make them move very quickly and the recordings are lying around. 774 00:39:08,233 --> 00:39:09,700 Paul was leading the boat. 775 00:39:10,333 --> 00:39:13,600 George and John took care of it when it was 776 00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:17,367 of their compositions but it was Paul at the helm. 777 00:39:18,533 --> 00:39:21,033 He said, "Like that." And they were doing 778 00:39:21,100 --> 00:39:23,667 dozens and dozens of takes 779 00:39:23,733 --> 00:39:26,467 and I thought: "It was good the first time. 780 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,667 Why didn't they take it? I would like to go back. " 781 00:39:29,733 --> 00:39:31,767 Even experienced engineers 782 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,733 were surprised by the Beatles' demands. 783 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,567 Nobody had ever done that. 784 00:39:38,733 --> 00:39:42,267 In a sense, Abbey Road was a blessing for them. 785 00:39:42,333 --> 00:39:46,033 They were enthusiastic and teeming with ideas 786 00:39:46,433 --> 00:39:49,400 and these are the best times of life, 787 00:39:49,467 --> 00:39:52,533 in my twenties. They could do whatever they wanted. 788 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,033 They had the nerve to say: "We want to do things." 789 00:39:56,100 --> 00:39:58,433 The first time they came, 790 00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:01,167 they had gone through the entrance on the side. There, in front. 791 00:40:01,233 --> 00:40:03,400 "Whatever you want to do, we are following you. " 792 00:40:03,467 --> 00:40:06,800 The Beatles tore to pieces what we took for granted 793 00:40:07,033 --> 00:40:08,800 like spending three months in the studio. 794 00:40:09,033 --> 00:40:12,367 We don't tick when U2 goes by two years making an album. 795 00:40:12,433 --> 00:40:14,167 The Beatles were the first. 796 00:40:14,233 --> 00:40:17,400 The Beatles were the first to make such an ambitious album, 797 00:40:17,467 --> 00:40:20,800 an album far from pop albums, 798 00:40:21,033 --> 00:40:24,233 not just pieces to dance or listen in the car. 799 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,767 {\ an8} I think John was a genius. 800 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,500 {\ an8} There is no doubt about it. 801 00:40:29,567 --> 00:40:31,100 {\ an8} ON THE ROAD TO GREECE JULY 1967 802 00:40:31,167 --> 00:40:33,367 {\ an8} How many geniuses can there be in a group? 803 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:39,700 But, without Paul, I don't think John would have done what he did with his life. 804 00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,433 I called them the dream team. 805 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,233 Paul had lost his mother at the age of 14. 806 00:40:45,300 --> 00:40:47,533 He spent a lot of time with us. 807 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,233 My mother said, ironically: 808 00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:51,433 "Poor boy, he lost his mother." 809 00:40:54,100 --> 00:40:56,600 When our mother died, 810 00:40:57,233 --> 00:41:02,667 a real link instantly woven between them 811 00:41:03,133 --> 00:41:07,133 and I think this relationship was the basis of the Beatles. 812 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,400 John had that reputation. 813 00:41:11,267 --> 00:41:12,133 THE DISSENTORS 814 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:15,467 He was the one who attracted others, because he had a bitter mind 815 00:41:15,533 --> 00:41:18,667 and he had a rebellious side 816 00:41:18,733 --> 00:41:21,233 which doesn't matter much. 817 00:41:22,067 --> 00:41:25,333 Paul was very polite 818 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,533 and people are usually attracted to the rebel, 819 00:41:29,100 --> 00:41:32,500 as I immediately was. That's what drew me to his place. 820 00:41:32,567 --> 00:41:35,567 Paul was an avant-garde. It was very important. 821 00:41:35,633 --> 00:41:39,133 No idea was too far-fetched for him 822 00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,633 and he read a lot, 823 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,167 went to exhibitions, 824 00:41:43,233 --> 00:41:45,700 listened to avant-garde composers 825 00:41:46,133 --> 00:41:50,267 and developed along this path very significantly. 826 00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:51,367 John ... 827 00:41:52,533 --> 00:41:55,067 John read a lot and wrote a lot of songs 828 00:41:55,133 --> 00:41:57,733 home because he had family responsibilities. 829 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:00,533 Paul was ahead of him in exploring London, 830 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,233 in the forefront, in the underground movement. 831 00:42:03,567 --> 00:42:04,433 John was ... 832 00:42:04,667 --> 00:42:06,300 He liked it but he didn't ... 833 00:42:06,367 --> 00:42:10,167 He was not daring enough to do it himself. 834 00:42:10,233 --> 00:42:12,500 But, in November, he meets Yoko Ono 835 00:42:12,567 --> 00:42:15,100 {\ an8} at the opening of a gallery ... 836 00:42:15,167 --> 00:42:16,467 {\ an8} YOKO ONO, LONDON, AUGUST 1966 837 00:42:16,533 --> 00:42:18,767 {\ an8} ... and we know where it got him. 838 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:20,167 {\ an8} One of the great myths 839 00:42:20,233 --> 00:42:22,467 {\ an8} annoying Paul McCartney still today, 840 00:42:22,533 --> 00:42:24,500 because it tends to be tenacious, 841 00:42:24,667 --> 00:42:27,667 is that John was hungry for experiences. 842 00:42:27,733 --> 00:42:32,267 And that Paul was a brave slipper who was not taking a risk. 843 00:42:33,267 --> 00:42:34,367 It is not true. 844 00:42:35,033 --> 00:42:37,067 As Tony Bramwell said, 845 00:42:37,133 --> 00:42:41,167 John was a big slacker who was staying in his suburban lodge. 846 00:42:41,567 --> 00:42:43,233 Paul lived in the heart of London. 847 00:42:43,300 --> 00:42:46,067 Paul has always sought to improve. 848 00:42:46,133 --> 00:42:50,000 He bought books on modern art when he was 13 849 00:42:50,067 --> 00:42:53,433 and he was interested in the whole avant-garde from London 850 00:42:53,500 --> 00:42:58,333 and especially to complex music, brave and very contemporary, 851 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,800 nothing to do with pop, like John Cage, 852 00:43:01,033 --> 00:43:03,000 Luciano Berio and the others. 853 00:43:03,067 --> 00:43:04,267 He knew all this. 854 00:43:04,333 --> 00:43:05,700 Endless soundtracks. 855 00:43:06,100 --> 00:43:07,067 Paul was a leader. 856 00:43:07,133 --> 00:43:09,533 There was a bookstore and a gallery 857 00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,733 and Paul had given the order that we send him all the news 858 00:43:14,167 --> 00:43:15,767 and then he talked to John about it. 859 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,200 So Paul was talking to John about it: 860 00:43:18,267 --> 00:43:21,700 "Relax, turn off your mind and let yourself be carried by the current. " 861 00:43:21,767 --> 00:43:26,067 John read the book and he wrote "Tomorrow Never Knows" 862 00:43:26,133 --> 00:43:28,367 and John was the avant-garde. 863 00:43:28,733 --> 00:43:32,167 They were more involved in modern art 864 00:43:32,667 --> 00:43:38,133 and in modern classical music than they let it appear. 865 00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,200 Remember they were in high school. 866 00:43:41,033 --> 00:43:45,600 And, for its part, John went to art school. 867 00:43:46,267 --> 00:43:50,300 Unlike other rock stars ... 868 00:43:50,367 --> 00:43:52,333 I have to choose the names ... 869 00:43:52,533 --> 00:43:56,233 ... who left school at 15 and barely knew how to read and write. 870 00:43:56,500 --> 00:44:00,133 The Beatles, apart from Ringo who never went to school ... 871 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,800 The Beatles were high school kids who had read Shakespeare in class, 872 00:44:04,033 --> 00:44:07,067 who had read novels and poems. 873 00:44:07,767 --> 00:44:12,333 John and George lived in the countryside. 874 00:44:13,167 --> 00:44:15,567 Paul lived in the heart of London. 875 00:44:17,267 --> 00:44:20,267 They no longer passed all their time together. 876 00:44:20,467 --> 00:44:25,100 Until 1966, they were still with each other. 877 00:44:25,167 --> 00:44:28,133 They were that four-headed hydra. 878 00:44:30,033 --> 00:44:31,633 They were never seen alone. 879 00:44:31,700 --> 00:44:34,233 Paul was the most musical 880 00:44:34,433 --> 00:44:35,600 and trained John. 881 00:44:36,467 --> 00:44:39,667 So it was much more nuanced than that. 882 00:44:40,100 --> 00:44:44,100 The idea that Paul was a straight man 883 00:44:44,367 --> 00:44:46,133 in charge of press relations, 884 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,633 this was partly true, 885 00:44:48,267 --> 00:44:51,233 but he was also extremely gifted. 886 00:44:52,033 --> 00:44:55,200 There were rumbles ... 887 00:44:56,367 --> 00:44:59,500 different music who came back from before, 888 00:44:59,567 --> 00:45:00,767 who came back from Revolver. 889 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,400 The wait was high for Rubber Soul and Revolver 890 00:45:03,467 --> 00:45:06,733 but it was at its peak for Sgt. Pepper. 891 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,133 Largely because of the weather spent in the studio. 892 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,133 It was constantly highlighted in the articles: 893 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,800 all the money spent, the time it took. 894 00:45:16,033 --> 00:45:20,067 There were these four geniuses with George Martin. 895 00:45:20,133 --> 00:45:23,533 If they spent that much time on something, it was going to be amazing, 896 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,600 because it couldn't be otherwise. 897 00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:32,033 {\ an8} SGT PEPPER EXHIBITION THE HISTORY OF BEATLES 898 00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:35,200 {\ an8} We have to come back at the time of its release. 899 00:45:36,033 --> 00:45:38,600 People have no idea of โ€‹โ€‹the difficulties. 900 00:45:38,667 --> 00:45:42,267 It has been done with a four track recorder. 901 00:45:42,333 --> 00:45:45,233 George Martin said it was very difficult. 902 00:45:45,300 --> 00:45:49,100 Nowadays, we see all the studios can do 903 00:45:49,167 --> 00:45:54,567 and yet this album, designed with a four track recorder, remains magic. 904 00:45:54,633 --> 00:45:58,033 I remember the day they decided words on the cover. 905 00:45:58,100 --> 00:46:02,033 For all albums released before, 906 00:46:02,233 --> 00:46:04,500 we had exchanged sharply on words. 907 00:46:05,033 --> 00:46:06,500 We did not know... 908 00:46:07,133 --> 00:46:10,200 One of the great joys brought by the Beatles, 909 00:46:10,633 --> 00:46:11,800 it's their Liverpool accent. 910 00:46:12,033 --> 00:46:13,733 A great story for me ... 911 00:46:15,500 --> 00:46:17,200 I worked at Stafford Street 912 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,767 and George came to see me: 913 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,200 "I have these lyrics. Could you type them in? 914 00:46:23,267 --> 00:46:25,033 Because they are illegible. " 915 00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:27,733 He said to me, "I sit by your side 916 00:46:28,433 --> 00:46:31,367 and I'll read it to you so you can type it. " 917 00:46:32,067 --> 00:46:34,167 So I did it. 918 00:46:34,633 --> 00:46:38,400 When the page was finished, he handed it to me 919 00:46:39,067 --> 00:46:40,400 and I threw it in the trash. 920 00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:46,333 All songs from Sgt. Pepper were in the trash. 921 00:46:47,433 --> 00:46:48,567 If I had known... 922 00:46:49,267 --> 00:46:51,200 The EMI group was very shocked 923 00:46:51,267 --> 00:46:56,133 by the amount spent on coverage 924 00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:00,600 and they also wanted bring up all the lyrics. 925 00:47:00,767 --> 00:47:04,033 The Beatles held out the stick to be beaten 926 00:47:04,100 --> 00:47:07,567 because once the audience would have read the lyrics he might 927 00:47:07,633 --> 00:47:11,567 interpret them 928 00:47:11,633 --> 00:47:15,467 and impute meaning to them which probably didn't exist. 929 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,667 They had a pocket produced by The Fool group 930 00:47:19,733 --> 00:47:21,600 psychedelic style. 931 00:47:22,167 --> 00:47:25,600 Robert Fraser, their advisor 932 00:47:25,667 --> 00:47:27,600 and owner of a gallery, said to them: 933 00:47:27,667 --> 00:47:30,767 "It won't look good, because it will age quickly. " 934 00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:36,533 They decided to keep this concept and Paul said: 935 00:47:37,133 --> 00:47:43,000 "We are going to write a list of all our heroes and that will make the cover, 936 00:47:43,067 --> 00:47:46,533 heroes and people that we admire will be on this album. " 937 00:47:47,267 --> 00:47:51,000 Brian Epstein was in New York, during that time, 938 00:47:51,233 --> 00:47:53,033 and he was horrified at the news. 939 00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:56,800 He said to himself, "All these people. Only the Beatles count. " 940 00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,167 He had decided to return to London 941 00:47:59,233 --> 00:48:02,033 but he had a vision where his plane crashed. 942 00:48:02,333 --> 00:48:06,233 So he left a message to Nat Reese's lawyer: 943 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,433 "A brown blanket for the album Sgt. Pepper. " 944 00:48:11,500 --> 00:48:14,767 The public expected them let them be ahead in everything. 945 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,067 We said to ourselves: "The Beatles first 946 00:48:17,133 --> 00:48:18,533 and the others follow. " 947 00:48:18,700 --> 00:48:21,533 Of course, it was the time of military tunics 948 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:26,533 that Sgt. Pepper kissed. Then it was the hippie era. 949 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,300 As you would expect, John Lennon wanted 950 00:48:29,367 --> 00:48:31,467 Jesus Christ, Hitler. 951 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,600 Hitler is on the board but it is hidden. 952 00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:40,067 When Sir Joseph Lockwood of EMI arrived 953 00:48:40,133 --> 00:48:43,033 and saw Gandhi, he was struck down. 954 00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:45,233 "Impossible. We sell well in India." 955 00:48:45,300 --> 00:48:46,333 So he was dismissed. 956 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:47,767 But... 957 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:52,200 Peter Blake had succeeded to get nine wax dummies 958 00:48:52,267 --> 00:48:54,800 from Madame Tussauds: 959 00:48:55,033 --> 00:48:57,033 four of the Beatles and other people 960 00:48:57,100 --> 00:48:59,400 like Sonny Liston and Diana Dors. 961 00:48:59,467 --> 00:49:01,467 I told them very early: 962 00:49:01,533 --> 00:49:05,367 "You have all your heroes, your actors and your musicians. 963 00:49:06,033 --> 00:49:07,533 But no footballer? " 964 00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,633 They replied that none of the four was not interested in football 965 00:49:10,700 --> 00:49:12,467 even if they had grown up in Liverpool. 966 00:49:12,633 --> 00:49:16,033 During teenagehood, they had not attended matches. 967 00:49:16,300 --> 00:49:18,333 They weren't very fans. 968 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,467 They were too busy to play guitar in the Quarrymen. 969 00:49:22,167 --> 00:49:25,367 Paul later said he was coming from an Everton family 970 00:49:25,667 --> 00:49:28,700 but he never said it in front of me 971 00:49:29,133 --> 00:49:32,000 and his parents, his father, either. 972 00:49:32,733 --> 00:49:35,533 So they said: "It's a good idea." 973 00:49:36,067 --> 00:49:38,567 They added a footballer at this meeting: 974 00:49:39,467 --> 00:49:40,633 Albert Stubbins. 975 00:49:41,300 --> 00:49:44,467 John had chosen Albert Stubbins, because his name amused him. 976 00:49:44,533 --> 00:49:46,167 If it had been another year, 977 00:49:46,233 --> 00:49:48,367 there would have been Ravi Shankar and the Maharishi. 978 00:49:48,433 --> 00:49:50,733 There were a lot of Americans ... 979 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:55,033 At that time, there was no Internet. 980 00:49:55,667 --> 00:49:58,367 You had to write to them to have their permission 981 00:49:58,433 --> 00:50:00,067 and, if they were dead, 982 00:50:00,133 --> 00:50:03,367 you had to ask their families. 983 00:50:03,767 --> 00:50:06,133 I have a file of this thickness 984 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:11,500 matches for Sgt. Pepper. 985 00:50:12,367 --> 00:50:13,267 Chertsey. 986 00:50:13,333 --> 00:50:15,600 Ready to go to Weybridge, a bohemian caravan. 987 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,100 A gift for a four year old child who already has everything. 988 00:50:19,533 --> 00:50:22,000 His name: Julian Lennon, son of John Lennon. 989 00:50:22,067 --> 00:50:23,500 Who else but the Beatles? 990 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,600 ยฃ 4,000 for this vehicle entirely renovated and brightly colored, 991 00:50:27,667 --> 00:50:29,500 a great toy for a little boy. 992 00:50:30,067 --> 00:50:31,567 She was escorted by the police 993 00:50:31,767 --> 00:50:35,367 but not all fathers spend so much money for their children. 994 00:50:35,667 --> 00:50:39,100 It's in this kind of occasion that money can buy love. 995 00:50:39,633 --> 00:50:42,667 And if he decides to leave the house, which seems unlikely, 996 00:50:43,067 --> 00:50:45,400 he will be the best equipped gypsy on the roads. 997 00:50:48,167 --> 00:50:51,067 I was visiting a friend of mine on King's Road. 998 00:50:51,133 --> 00:50:54,067 We were many, sitting around the table, 999 00:50:54,133 --> 00:50:57,800 to listen to good music and smoke weed 1000 00:50:58,033 --> 00:51:00,200 and no one was talking. 1001 00:51:00,267 --> 00:51:03,433 There were books on this table. 1002 00:51:03,500 --> 00:51:06,267 Very interesting spiritual books. 1003 00:51:06,333 --> 00:51:10,433 I took one, Karma and Rebirth, 1004 00:51:10,500 --> 00:51:12,733 written by a certain Christmas Humphreys. 1005 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:16,433 I was leafing through the book and I saw this sentence: 1006 00:51:16,733 --> 00:51:19,400 "Life goes on with you and without you." 1007 00:51:20,367 --> 00:51:22,433 I thought to myself, "This is very special." 1008 00:51:22,500 --> 00:51:24,400 I called Patti and George 1009 00:51:24,467 --> 00:51:27,367 and George answered. I said, "Listen to this: 1010 00:51:27,433 --> 00:51:29,733 'Life goes on with you and without you.' " 1011 00:51:30,300 --> 00:51:31,600 He loved it and he made it 1012 00:51:31,667 --> 00:51:33,733 the song "Within You Without You". 1013 00:51:34,267 --> 00:51:37,500 George Martin told me later, after the death of George Harrison: 1014 00:51:37,667 --> 00:51:39,800 "If it's the first song 1015 00:51:40,033 --> 00:51:42,067 from the second side of Sgt. Pepper, 1016 00:51:42,133 --> 00:51:47,500 it is so that the listeners go directly to the second song. 1017 00:51:48,167 --> 00:51:49,500 I hadn't imagined that it would work. 1018 00:51:50,133 --> 00:51:54,633 The sitar in the songs, in rock or psychedelic music, 1019 00:51:54,700 --> 00:51:58,433 it was dominant in the album Sgt. Pepper. 1020 00:51:59,233 --> 00:52:00,600 Nobody had ... 1021 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,233 We saw Elvis and Little Richard 1022 00:52:03,300 --> 00:52:06,067 but we never would have imagined see a sitar 1023 00:52:06,300 --> 00:52:09,267 in a popular group at that time. 1024 00:52:09,333 --> 00:52:12,233 Paul rightly said, growing up, 1025 00:52:12,300 --> 00:52:14,800 that the album booklet was very important, 1026 00:52:15,033 --> 00:52:18,600 as important as the colors of the label and that smell of the album. 1027 00:52:18,667 --> 00:52:22,033 He was aware tactile and visual aspects 1028 00:52:22,100 --> 00:52:25,300 an album and all the details that a child absorbs 1029 00:52:25,367 --> 00:52:28,133 and even Garrod and Lofthouse, 1030 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,067 impressions at the bottom. 1031 00:52:30,133 --> 00:52:32,133 He wanted it to be filled with elements: 1032 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,600 illustrations, small gifts. 1033 00:52:35,667 --> 00:52:37,800 The Fool had done ... 1034 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,733 Like a spot of color on the inside page. 1035 00:52:41,333 --> 00:52:43,733 It was up to par. It was breathtaking. 1036 00:52:44,667 --> 00:52:47,467 You opened and they were there, in this Sgt. Pepper 1037 00:52:48,367 --> 00:52:50,567 and you open the booklet and you said to yourself: 1038 00:52:50,633 --> 00:52:53,267 "We can detach the mustache." 1039 00:52:53,633 --> 00:52:57,067 There is Sgt. Pepper. You can detach it and stand it up. 1040 00:52:57,300 --> 00:52:58,433 The dilemma was: 1041 00:52:58,500 --> 00:53:01,467 "I leave it intact so as not to damage it? " 1042 00:53:01,533 --> 00:53:04,267 That's what I did because you will not go far 1043 00:53:04,333 --> 00:53:06,667 with the paper mustache, right? 1044 00:53:07,433 --> 00:53:09,133 Especially at ten but ... 1045 00:53:10,100 --> 00:53:13,633 But I still have it. Intact. 1046 00:53:14,133 --> 00:53:18,767 And there was something who grabbed you in the booklet. 1047 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:20,667 It was Paul's idea. 1048 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,167 I had seen his drawings. I had heard discussions. 1049 00:53:24,233 --> 00:53:26,300 About the title. 1050 00:53:26,367 --> 00:53:28,500 I had heard how they would arrange it. 1051 00:53:28,700 --> 00:53:32,300 I came by one day and he said: "We are taking pictures this evening." 1052 00:53:32,433 --> 00:53:35,167 So I jumped into his Mini Minor 1053 00:53:35,367 --> 00:53:40,400 and we went to the studio by Michael Cooper on Flood Street. 1054 00:53:41,167 --> 00:53:44,633 Leaving Paulโ€™s house, that he still has, right around the corner, 1055 00:53:45,333 --> 00:53:48,333 he said, "We will need of objects to decorate the front. " 1056 00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:52,667 I had seen drawings and they kept changing their minds. 1057 00:53:52,733 --> 00:53:55,767 I had seen the costumes. They had tried them and said: 1058 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,800 "No ... I want another one." 1059 00:53:58,267 --> 00:54:03,133 There he said, "Take something to put it at the bottom of the photo. " 1060 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:07,100 I looked around and I took a statue from his shelf. 1061 00:54:07,167 --> 00:54:09,233 I had no idea what it was. 1062 00:54:09,300 --> 00:54:10,367 It looked like that. 1063 00:54:11,667 --> 00:54:15,700 Like a rocket we gave them a few years earlier. 1064 00:54:15,767 --> 00:54:19,033 John had given his own to a fan who had come to his house. 1065 00:54:19,100 --> 00:54:20,067 He had given it to her. 1066 00:54:20,500 --> 00:54:23,367 So i took it from in front of his Magritte. 1067 00:54:23,433 --> 00:54:24,467 He adored Magritte. 1068 00:54:24,533 --> 00:54:27,800 He had bought Magritte's painting with an apple, 1069 00:54:28,100 --> 00:54:30,233 used by Apple. 1070 00:54:30,633 --> 00:54:33,300 And Linda bought her 1071 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:37,567 the palette of paint and the easel from Magritte 1072 00:54:38,033 --> 00:54:40,667 and he wanted Magritte on it but not the old ... 1073 00:54:41,700 --> 00:54:46,600 Robert Fraser's people thought he was an agent. 1074 00:54:46,767 --> 00:54:49,767 To me, it was a disaster. 1075 00:54:50,133 --> 00:54:53,700 It could have been a wonderful concept, 1076 00:54:54,167 --> 00:54:57,000 all heroes and men who influenced them, 1077 00:54:57,067 --> 00:54:59,767 which would have given a beautiful image of the Beatles. 1078 00:55:00,167 --> 00:55:04,533 And it was rejected. So do not imagine 1079 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,700 that it's the real, the authentic cover because it isn't. 1080 00:55:08,167 --> 00:55:10,600 There was a deductive logic: 1081 00:55:11,533 --> 00:55:13,233 "Who have they left out? 1082 00:55:13,300 --> 00:55:14,267 Why them? " 1083 00:55:14,333 --> 00:55:16,400 These are the personalities of the time, 1084 00:55:16,467 --> 00:55:17,700 the biggest. 1085 00:55:19,267 --> 00:55:21,733 We never knew if they were going to parody them 1086 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:24,067 or say, "They are our heroes." 1087 00:55:24,367 --> 00:55:29,333 To me it was very ironic. 1088 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:30,267 I said to myself : 1089 00:55:30,533 --> 00:55:33,033 "They laugh a lot about it." 1090 00:55:33,100 --> 00:55:36,467 They staged these people in one way, 1091 00:55:36,700 --> 00:55:39,167 saying, "These are all our friends." 1092 00:55:39,233 --> 00:55:42,367 And the charming little attention: "Welcome to the Rolling Stones." 1093 00:55:43,500 --> 00:55:44,800 It was incredibly expensive. 1094 00:55:45,033 --> 00:55:47,033 At EMI, we thought they were crazy. 1095 00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:50,267 "Why do all this for a pop album 1096 00:55:50,333 --> 00:55:53,133 who will be replaced in six months by another? 1097 00:55:53,333 --> 00:55:55,567 It's ... "They didn't understand. 1098 00:55:56,100 --> 00:55:58,367 The Beatles had ambition. 1099 00:55:58,767 --> 00:56:03,267 Ambition, talent and ego. 1100 00:56:03,333 --> 00:56:05,800 "We want to do something special and it will be good. " 1101 00:56:06,033 --> 00:56:11,067 There are also the medals. Pete Best's father 1102 00:56:11,467 --> 00:56:14,733 organized boxing fights in Liverpool, at the Liverpool Stadium, 1103 00:56:15,267 --> 00:56:16,633 and he had ... 1104 00:56:17,567 --> 00:56:22,133 He had a kind of cup who was to come back to him in Liverpool 1105 00:56:22,567 --> 00:56:26,767 and Neil Aspinall grabbed it to use it on the cover. 1106 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,000 {\ an8} My motherโ€™s family, even if they were English, 1107 00:56:30,233 --> 00:56:33,800 {\ an8} they were born during the Raj, a military family in India. 1108 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:37,633 His father, my grandfather, 1109 00:56:38,567 --> 00:56:41,733 was an officer in the Lancers. 1110 00:56:42,367 --> 00:56:46,333 She was very proud that his father has a lot of medals. 1111 00:56:47,133 --> 00:56:50,033 On many occasions, when she welcomed them, 1112 00:56:50,333 --> 00:56:53,133 she was showing the four of them, these medals. 1113 00:56:53,567 --> 00:56:55,500 Brian had returned in 1967 1114 00:56:55,567 --> 00:56:58,300 when they were gathering business for Sgt. Pepper. 1115 00:56:58,467 --> 00:57:02,067 John remembered the medals. 1116 00:57:02,567 --> 00:57:05,133 He said, "They would be great for Sgt. Pepper. 1117 00:57:05,567 --> 00:57:08,733 Could you ask Mona if I can borrow them? " 1118 00:57:09,567 --> 00:57:13,133 She turned to Neil and said, "You have my blessing. 1119 00:57:13,667 --> 00:57:16,067 But tell John to give them back to me. " 1120 00:57:17,167 --> 00:57:18,800 Neil took them to London. 1121 00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,067 When deciding, 1122 00:57:22,133 --> 00:57:24,200 facing medals and other objects, 1123 00:57:24,267 --> 00:57:26,667 John decided that the medals he would wear 1124 00:57:26,733 --> 00:57:28,567 belonged to this collection. 1125 00:57:28,633 --> 00:57:31,600 So, we see them on Sgt. Peps. 1126 00:57:33,733 --> 00:57:37,067 Which is wonderful, is that he kept his word. 1127 00:57:37,300 --> 00:57:43,533 He asked Neil to bring the medals back to Mona. 1128 00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,400 This is how the family ended up involved in Sgt. Pepper. 1129 00:57:48,467 --> 00:57:52,033 The album was expected as the best-selling album in the world 1130 00:57:52,100 --> 00:57:53,033 and... 1131 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:56,667 They were there. 1132 00:57:57,367 --> 00:58:00,300 For years, no one has known. 1133 00:58:00,667 --> 00:58:02,733 Chas and Jimi were friends of mine 1134 00:58:03,267 --> 00:58:06,767 and I had an Sgt acetate. Pepper 1135 00:58:07,500 --> 00:58:11,367 and I gave it to Chas who played it to Jimi 1136 00:58:12,100 --> 00:58:14,233 and Jimi immediately jumped on it. 1137 00:58:14,300 --> 00:58:17,567 He repeated and appropriated it. 1138 00:58:18,333 --> 00:58:20,433 I heard him play at the Saville Theater 1139 00:58:20,500 --> 00:58:24,333 the Sunday after the release of Pepper 1140 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:27,033 and he played it. 1141 00:58:27,500 --> 00:58:29,367 McCartney agreed and loved it. 1142 00:58:29,733 --> 00:58:31,533 He was deeply flattered, 1143 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:35,533 because he was a very big rock star 1144 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:39,033 who was playing his creation and he was a composer. 1145 00:58:39,100 --> 00:58:41,367 He liked that the others play his compositions. 1146 00:58:41,633 --> 00:58:44,400 When Sgt. Pepper is out June 1, 1967, 1147 00:58:44,467 --> 00:58:47,367 he was expected for so long. 1148 00:58:47,433 --> 00:58:49,433 The anticipation was enormous. 1149 00:58:49,500 --> 00:58:52,667 We read NME and Melody Maker while waiting for its release. 1150 00:58:53,100 --> 00:58:55,333 Anywhere on King's Road, 1151 00:58:55,600 --> 00:59:00,000 the shops, the stores were playing this album. 1152 00:59:00,333 --> 00:59:01,567 It was an event. 1153 00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,800 The album, when I saw the cover, that alone was an event. 1154 00:59:06,033 --> 00:59:08,433 It said, "We're not kidding. 1155 00:59:08,500 --> 00:59:10,300 It is special." 1156 00:59:10,367 --> 00:59:11,700 A huge presentation. 1157 00:59:11,767 --> 00:59:16,700 When we were shooting the clip from "Strawberry Fields", 1158 00:59:17,367 --> 00:59:20,067 at Sevenoaks in Kent, 1159 00:59:20,133 --> 00:59:24,067 we had a small hotel, Bright's Hotel, 1160 00:59:24,133 --> 00:59:26,167 and an antique shop 1161 00:59:26,767 --> 00:59:29,633 The poster was on the wall. 1162 00:59:29,700 --> 00:59:34,500 It cost half a pound. 1163 00:59:35,767 --> 00:59:37,233 It was : 1164 00:59:38,333 --> 00:59:41,400 "For the benefit of Mr. Kite" and a whole list of acts. 1165 00:59:41,467 --> 00:59:43,767 Pablo Fanque's circus, and all these things ... 1166 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:45,433 CIRQUE ROYAL PABLO FANQUE 1167 00:59:45,500 --> 00:59:46,600 ... the dancing horse. 1168 00:59:47,767 --> 00:59:52,300 He had it framed and he displayed it in his living room in Weybridge 1169 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,067 and, right after, he wrote the song ... 1170 00:59:55,133 --> 00:59:56,267 The evening of the season! 1171 00:59:56,333 --> 00:59:57,533 FOR THE BENEFIT OF MR. KITE 1172 00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,533 ... from this poster. 1173 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,433 He made it a poetry. 1174 01:00:03,333 --> 01:00:09,400 Then George Martin added these wonderful funfair effects. 1175 01:00:09,467 --> 01:00:11,367 A masterpiece. 1176 01:00:12,100 --> 01:00:14,233 He was inspired by other horizons. 1177 01:00:14,300 --> 01:00:16,433 As in the album Sgt. Pepper, 1178 01:00:16,500 --> 01:00:19,800 or in the Daily Mail article on her friend Tara Browne 1179 01:00:20,033 --> 01:00:21,667 killed in a road accident. 1180 01:00:21,733 --> 01:00:25,000 And the same with Paul and the idea of โ€‹โ€‹the Daily Mail 1181 01:00:25,067 --> 01:00:27,200 for "She's Leaving Home" on Melanie Coe ... 1182 01:00:27,267 --> 01:00:28,467 MISSING ... THE GIRL WHO HAS EVERYTHING 1183 01:00:28,533 --> 01:00:30,200 ... who ran away with a man. 1184 01:00:30,267 --> 01:00:32,300 Paul talked about a man of the automotive world. 1185 01:00:32,367 --> 01:00:35,033 Everyone believed that it was Terry Doran 1186 01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:36,200 but Paul denied. 1187 01:00:36,267 --> 01:00:39,633 Terry Doran was their friend who managed the cars. 1188 01:00:40,333 --> 01:00:41,233 Chertsey. 1189 01:00:43,133 --> 01:00:46,333 One of the wheels of John Lennon's Rolls. An essence. 1190 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,400 At over 80, it's fabulous. 1191 01:00:48,733 --> 01:00:53,633 A 1965 Phantom for ยฃ 6,000, wonderful interior and exterior. 1192 01:00:54,167 --> 01:00:55,400 As much as the other 1193 01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,400 now that she's been pampered. 1194 01:00:58,467 --> 01:01:00,367 Even a Beatle could not have asked for better. 1195 01:01:02,633 --> 01:01:04,667 When Paul spoke publicly about LSD, 1196 01:01:04,733 --> 01:01:08,033 he was chatting with a journalist 1197 01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:09,167 and it was published. 1198 01:01:09,233 --> 01:01:12,100 I remember it made the front page of the Daily Mirror 1199 01:01:12,167 --> 01:01:17,433 and, of course, the news, TV news flocked. 1200 01:01:17,767 --> 01:01:19,733 John was upset 1201 01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,633 that he and George were the first to take LSD 1202 01:01:22,700 --> 01:01:25,000 and that Paul, a novice, 1203 01:01:25,067 --> 01:01:27,233 was the first to say: "I took LSD." 1204 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,167 They thought it was unfair, 1205 01:01:30,233 --> 01:01:32,433 because they were the pioneers. 1206 01:01:32,700 --> 01:01:35,167 {\ an8} Paul, how often did you take LSD? 1207 01:01:35,233 --> 01:01:36,633 {\ an8} INTERVIEW TV, JUNE 1967 1208 01:01:37,367 --> 01:01:38,467 {\ an8} Four times. 1209 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:40,700 Where did you get it? 1210 01:01:41,433 --> 01:01:44,167 As if I was going to tell you. 1211 01:01:44,233 --> 01:01:46,667 It's illegal. It would be foolish to say so. 1212 01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:47,800 I prefer to keep quiet. 1213 01:01:48,033 --> 01:01:51,600 Don't you think this is a subject who should have stayed private? 1214 01:01:52,433 --> 01:01:56,133 In fact, a reporter asked me a question 1215 01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:01,700 and I had to decide between lying or ... 1216 01:02:03,067 --> 01:02:04,367 tell the truth. 1217 01:02:05,167 --> 01:02:06,600 I decided to tell the truth 1218 01:02:08,333 --> 01:02:11,367 but I didn't want to talk about it. 1219 01:02:11,433 --> 01:02:12,767 If it was up to me, 1220 01:02:13,433 --> 01:02:16,400 if I could have decided, I would not have told anyone. 1221 01:02:16,467 --> 01:02:19,367 Because I don't want it to be known. 1222 01:02:19,733 --> 01:02:23,767 But this reporter is the man of mass media. 1223 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:28,433 I would not have said anything if he hadn't said anything, if he had been silent 1224 01:02:29,500 --> 01:02:30,733 But he wanted to say it. 1225 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:33,800 It is his responsibility, not mine. 1226 01:02:35,500 --> 01:02:38,067 You are a public figure and you said it. 1227 01:02:38,133 --> 01:02:41,067 You should have known that it would appear in the newspapers. 1228 01:02:41,700 --> 01:02:45,100 Yes, but I only told the truth. 1229 01:02:45,167 --> 01:02:46,633 I tell the truth. 1230 01:02:47,033 --> 01:02:49,100 I don't understand this anger. 1231 01:02:49,533 --> 01:02:52,800 Do you think you encouraged your fans on drugs? 1232 01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,100 It won't make any difference. 1233 01:02:55,167 --> 01:02:58,567 I don't think my fans will take drugs because I did. 1234 01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:01,500 But this is not the question. 1235 01:03:01,567 --> 01:03:03,233 I was asked if I had ever taken drugs. 1236 01:03:04,167 --> 01:03:08,133 Now, the proportions that it will take, 1237 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,233 The number of people that it will encourage, 1238 01:03:10,300 --> 01:03:13,200 it's up to the newspapers and to you, on television, to decide it. 1239 01:03:13,667 --> 01:03:16,033 You are broadcasting this message. 1240 01:03:16,467 --> 01:03:19,233 This message enters homes 1241 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:21,800 and I would have preferred that it did not happen. 1242 01:03:22,167 --> 01:03:24,400 But you ask me. I want to be honest. 1243 01:03:24,467 --> 01:03:25,600 I'm honest. 1244 01:03:26,167 --> 01:03:29,533 But, as a public figure, you have the duty ... 1245 01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,667 No, it's your duty. 1246 01:03:32,433 --> 01:03:35,200 You have the responsibility not to spread the word. 1247 01:03:35,667 --> 01:03:40,367 I'm ready to keep this confidential if you are too. 1248 01:03:40,700 --> 01:03:42,433 If you are silent, I will be silent. 1249 01:03:42,767 --> 01:03:45,533 The emergence of LSD, remember, 1250 01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:50,067 {\ an8} at the very beginning, it was not illegal in this country 1251 01:03:50,133 --> 01:03:53,800 {\ an8} and there was the International Psychedelic Center 1252 01:03:54,033 --> 01:03:56,200 where you could go get it. 1253 01:03:56,267 --> 01:03:58,600 You could have on a piece of bread. 1254 01:03:58,667 --> 01:04:00,433 It quickly became illegal 1255 01:04:01,267 --> 01:04:05,300 and there have been several debates very plausible 1256 01:04:05,367 --> 01:04:07,533 that it was wonderful to take it. 1257 01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:11,167 {\ an8} John always said that "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds" 1258 01:04:11,233 --> 01:04:14,033 {\ an8} was talking about his son Julian who had returned from school 1259 01:04:14,100 --> 01:04:18,667 with a drawing of a certain Lucy, a girl from her school, 1260 01:04:19,033 --> 01:04:20,600 in the sky with diamonds. 1261 01:04:21,067 --> 01:04:23,000 He always denied that it was LSD 1262 01:04:23,700 --> 01:04:25,033 and he said so. 1263 01:04:25,433 --> 01:04:28,167 In my opinion, that spoke of that. 1264 01:04:29,167 --> 01:04:31,000 John should have been blind 1265 01:04:31,067 --> 01:04:35,333 to not see that "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds "was L-S-D 1266 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,233 and we know it was not. 1267 01:04:37,667 --> 01:04:40,367 {\ an8} Even John said: "It was an accident." 1268 01:04:40,433 --> 01:04:44,200 {\ an8} We can appeal to artistic freedom here, 1269 01:04:44,633 --> 01:04:48,233 but I think it's more just a coincidence. 1270 01:04:48,300 --> 01:04:52,233 The initials "LSD" were pure coincidence. 1271 01:04:52,767 --> 01:04:53,633 {\ an8} They ... 1272 01:04:54,700 --> 01:04:57,300 {\ an8} There was no code anywhere. 1273 01:04:57,633 --> 01:05:01,267 {\ an8} However, for titles like "I Am the Walrus", 1274 01:05:01,367 --> 01:05:03,567 people said: "What does it mean ? 1275 01:05:03,633 --> 01:05:06,000 It could be clearer, right? " 1276 01:05:06,667 --> 01:05:11,500 John was deliberately answering nonsense. 1277 01:05:11,633 --> 01:05:14,267 I have a quote in my book about : 1278 01:05:14,333 --> 01:05:16,333 "Let them think. It will disturb them. " 1279 01:05:16,767 --> 01:05:20,500 He didn't really send messages. He was a diversion. 1280 01:05:20,567 --> 01:05:22,467 The Beatles have a good story 1281 01:05:22,633 --> 01:05:25,033 which explains that "Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds "is not LSD 1282 01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:27,667 but it was probably written by Brian Epstein. 1283 01:05:28,533 --> 01:05:31,133 In my opinion, they were talking about LSD, 1284 01:05:31,333 --> 01:05:33,267 but we told them that it was better to avoid. 1285 01:05:33,333 --> 01:05:37,100 {\ an8} However, the BBC was convinced that it was that 1286 01:05:37,167 --> 01:05:40,133 {\ an8} and they wrongly prohibited it, because it was part of youth. 1287 01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,400 In Sgt. Pepper, they knew what they were doing. 1288 01:05:42,467 --> 01:05:46,100 They distilled little jokes. There were before 1289 01:05:47,467 --> 01:05:50,300 in "Penny Lane" with "Fish and finger pie". 1290 01:05:50,633 --> 01:05:52,200 They did it on purpose. 1291 01:05:52,667 --> 01:05:54,533 A bit vulgar, it's true. 1292 01:05:55,167 --> 01:05:56,233 Obscenities of high school students. 1293 01:05:56,300 --> 01:05:59,800 {\ an8} They banned "A Day in the Life". They had misinterpreted it. 1294 01:06:00,033 --> 01:06:02,700 {\ an8} "Too many holes to fill the Albert Hall" 1295 01:06:02,767 --> 01:06:04,667 which was inspired by an article ... 1296 01:06:04,733 --> 01:06:05,733 The holes in our roads 1297 01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,167 ... on the holes at Blackburn 1298 01:06:08,567 --> 01:06:11,400 and they believed it was holes made with syringes 1299 01:06:12,033 --> 01:06:12,733 so they banned it. 1300 01:06:13,133 --> 01:06:15,467 This is the attitude that reigned at the time. 1301 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,667 Obviously, in this album, they took all the risks. 1302 01:06:19,733 --> 01:06:21,800 They took all the risks 1303 01:06:22,433 --> 01:06:25,633 {\ an8} when they made the long cry of "I'd like to plug you in." 1304 01:06:25,700 --> 01:06:27,233 {\ an8} LONDON, APRIL 1967 1305 01:06:27,300 --> 01:06:28,667 {\ an8} They knew what they were doing 1306 01:06:29,233 --> 01:06:32,200 {\ an8} and they managed to get by there often 1307 01:06:32,267 --> 01:06:35,500 they thought they could get away with that too. 1308 01:06:36,200 --> 01:06:38,700 They opened the world 1309 01:06:38,767 --> 01:06:41,533 to psychedelia and psychedelic drugs. 1310 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:42,667 They had the platform. 1311 01:06:43,100 --> 01:06:45,067 There was a lot going on in America, 1312 01:06:45,367 --> 01:06:48,000 drugs and Timothy Leary. 1313 01:06:48,633 --> 01:06:52,600 To arrive at the superb replica from Bardo Thรถdol: 1314 01:06:54,067 --> 01:06:56,200 "She said, 'I know death.'" 1315 01:06:56,267 --> 01:06:57,600 Which was revolutionary. 1316 01:06:57,667 --> 01:07:00,300 Suddenly, from "She Loves You" to that. 1317 01:07:01,033 --> 01:07:03,100 It was a spectacular statement. 1318 01:07:03,167 --> 01:07:06,000 In general, it was Mick, Keith and their group of troubadours 1319 01:07:06,300 --> 01:07:09,133 who were known for having a bad influence 1320 01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,800 and to be men to whom one would not entrust one's daughter 1321 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,167 {\ an8} but the Beatles weren't saints. 1322 01:07:17,767 --> 01:07:20,400 {\ an8} Besides, they would have admitted it. 1323 01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:24,233 It was not seen as drugs 1324 01:07:24,300 --> 01:07:26,467 who terrified the English, 1325 01:07:26,533 --> 01:07:30,367 like cocaine that has always existed. 1326 01:07:30,700 --> 01:07:34,300 Lady Diana Cooper, a woman of the great world, 1327 01:07:34,367 --> 01:07:36,167 lived in the 1920s. 1328 01:07:36,233 --> 01:07:39,333 Later, when meeting pop stars, 1329 01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,433 she said, "In the 1920s, we used to sit at dinners 1330 01:07:42,500 --> 01:07:45,333 and there were silver salt shakers filled with cocaine. " 1331 01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:46,800 So it was not new. 1332 01:07:47,433 --> 01:07:51,000 Lennon was reading Lewis Carroll and others 1333 01:07:51,067 --> 01:07:53,467 and they were absorbed by this universe. 1334 01:07:53,533 --> 01:07:57,067 At that time, drugs were seen as progressive: 1335 01:07:57,133 --> 01:07:59,367 "You could find your inner light 1336 01:07:59,433 --> 01:08:01,500 and interpret it differently. " 1337 01:08:01,567 --> 01:08:05,000 Music has a spiritual side. 1338 01:08:05,067 --> 01:08:07,300 They went to the bathroom. 1339 01:08:07,367 --> 01:08:09,133 They weren't doing that in the studio. 1340 01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,733 Or they were hiding behind an enclosure 1341 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,700 to quickly pull on a joint. 1342 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:17,333 One day John had to go up to the roof. 1343 01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:20,233 This again reveals the proximity between them. 1344 01:08:20,300 --> 01:08:24,200 Paul brought him home to St John's Wood. 1345 01:08:24,267 --> 01:08:26,200 Neil Aspinall was there too. 1346 01:08:26,267 --> 01:08:29,500 They took care of John, because he had used LSD. 1347 01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,733 {\ an8} When we take acid, 1348 01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:37,300 {\ an8} everything that happens during your trip, 1349 01:08:37,367 --> 01:08:38,733 {\ an8} you know it was there 1350 01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:43,433 and you have to live with this information 1351 01:08:43,500 --> 01:08:45,100 rather than repress it. 1352 01:08:45,167 --> 01:08:47,700 That's why it was easy for the Maharishi. 1353 01:08:47,767 --> 01:08:49,433 Everyone was ready. 1354 01:08:50,267 --> 01:08:56,067 The Maharishi era has started with George's wife, Patti Boyd, 1355 01:08:56,133 --> 01:08:58,267 who had heard of him. 1356 01:08:58,333 --> 01:09:01,367 The Maharishi came to London for years. 1357 01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,467 I remember a photo of him in the metro, 1358 01:09:04,533 --> 01:09:07,100 long before the Beatles don't find out. 1359 01:09:07,733 --> 01:09:12,133 They were in the situation where wealth, luxury and fame 1360 01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:14,700 are starting to tire. They were looking for something else. 1361 01:09:14,767 --> 01:09:17,333 Something superior, spiritual 1362 01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:20,400 and the Maharishi had a fast lane 1363 01:09:20,733 --> 01:09:22,800 towards inner bliss and spirituality. 1364 01:09:23,033 --> 01:09:25,367 It was enough to practice half an hour a day, 1365 01:09:25,433 --> 01:09:28,267 perfectly compatible with their ability to concentrate. 1366 01:09:29,167 --> 01:09:32,067 One evening Michael McCartney called me: 1367 01:09:32,767 --> 01:09:35,100 "There is going to be an evening." 1368 01:09:36,133 --> 01:09:38,167 There were always in the 60s. 1369 01:09:38,233 --> 01:09:41,067 A simple hamburger and a Coca-Cola 1370 01:09:41,133 --> 01:09:42,567 and we called it an evening. 1371 01:09:43,167 --> 01:09:45,600 He said: "They're leaving for Bangor tomorrow." 1372 01:09:45,667 --> 01:09:46,800 I said, "Where?" 1373 01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,400 "See the Maharishi." "Who?" 1374 01:09:50,067 --> 01:09:51,567 "They met him yesterday." 1375 01:09:52,267 --> 01:09:55,600 They went to his party at the Hilton 1376 01:09:55,667 --> 01:09:57,467 and they had listened to him 1377 01:09:58,033 --> 01:09:58,733 and they were ... 1378 01:09:59,233 --> 01:10:02,167 George was already interested to Indian mysticism, 1379 01:10:02,233 --> 01:10:05,600 to spiritual awareness and Indian music. 1380 01:10:05,667 --> 01:10:07,500 {\ an8} EUSTON STATION, LONDON, AUGUST 1967 1381 01:10:07,567 --> 01:10:09,700 {\ an8} I took the train with the four Beatles 1382 01:10:10,300 --> 01:10:11,533 {\ an8} and I sat in a compartment. 1383 01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,233 It was in 1967. 1384 01:10:13,300 --> 01:10:14,767 A first class compartment 1385 01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:17,433 and, at that time, there was a corridor 1386 01:10:17,633 --> 01:10:20,767 and a closed compartment. You could lower curtains. 1387 01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:22,800 I sat down with the four Beatles, 1388 01:10:23,033 --> 01:10:25,733 Mick Jagger and Marianne Faithfull 1389 01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:27,633 and we went to Bangor. 1390 01:10:28,367 --> 01:10:31,033 During the trip, we stopped 1391 01:10:31,100 --> 01:10:32,467 twice, notably in Chester. 1392 01:10:33,167 --> 01:10:36,067 There were young people on the quay screaming, 1393 01:10:36,133 --> 01:10:38,767 asking for autographs. The windows could open. 1394 01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:42,400 They had three Beatles but not John. 1395 01:10:42,467 --> 01:10:45,233 John said: "I won't sign. It gets me drunk." 1396 01:10:45,300 --> 01:10:48,267 And there would have been tears. So, I signed for him. 1397 01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,767 The Maharishi was on the train. here why we had to take this one. 1398 01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:53,600 We went in his wagon. 1399 01:10:53,667 --> 01:10:56,367 He gave us a mantra that I will not reveal. 1400 01:11:07,733 --> 01:11:10,167 The Beatles are among your followers. 1401 01:11:10,233 --> 01:11:11,467 What do you think ? 1402 01:11:12,100 --> 01:11:15,133 It's a big promise for the younger generation, 1403 01:11:15,467 --> 01:11:19,100 because if the Beatles are using Transcendental Meditation, 1404 01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:22,267 they are ideal for energy and intelligence 1405 01:11:22,333 --> 01:11:23,600 in the younger generation 1406 01:11:23,767 --> 01:11:26,500 and it will lead youth 1407 01:11:26,567 --> 01:11:29,767 at a good level of understanding and intelligence. 1408 01:11:30,333 --> 01:11:33,767 I am very happy we have met 1409 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:37,200 and they talked to me for an hour after our meeting. 1410 01:11:37,433 --> 01:11:40,133 They seem to be smart and honest. 1411 01:11:41,033 --> 01:11:43,500 If the Beatles adopt your teachings, 1412 01:11:43,567 --> 01:11:46,033 they can spread them among the youth? 1413 01:11:46,100 --> 01:11:49,067 Yes, and not only in England but around the world, 1414 01:11:49,133 --> 01:11:52,233 because the word "Beatle" has traveled on all continents 1415 01:11:52,300 --> 01:11:55,600 and all the young people are fascinated by this name. 1416 01:11:56,033 --> 01:11:57,533 What do you think of the Beatles? 1417 01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:01,367 Very intelligent young boys with great potential. 1418 01:12:01,433 --> 01:12:02,367 And their music? 1419 01:12:03,067 --> 01:12:04,133 I do not know her 1420 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,067 but as it is much appreciated in the whole world, 1421 01:12:07,133 --> 01:12:09,600 she must have something gracious. 1422 01:12:19,167 --> 01:12:23,367 Cynthia was the candid of the Beatles, always left behind. 1423 01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:27,400 When they went to see the Maharishi in Wales, 1424 01:12:27,467 --> 01:12:30,167 it was left on the platform. She missed the train. 1425 01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,800 They all boarded. She was crying on the platform. 1426 01:12:34,033 --> 01:12:37,200 {\ an8} The Maharishi was intelligent and he knew how to make people talk about him. 1427 01:12:37,267 --> 01:12:39,133 {\ an8} AUTHOR THE BEATLES '66 1428 01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,700 {\ an8} Previously, other people 1429 01:12:41,767 --> 01:12:45,000 had done the same and targeted wealthy and celebrities, 1430 01:12:45,067 --> 01:12:47,267 because they knew that if ... 1431 01:12:47,333 --> 01:12:50,633 If their ideas were adopted by high society, 1432 01:12:50,700 --> 01:12:53,067 they could escape from the ordinary. 1433 01:12:53,133 --> 01:12:56,400 So it was not written but that's what he did 1434 01:12:56,633 --> 01:12:58,400 like the people of Hare Krishna, 1435 01:12:58,467 --> 01:13:00,267 because they felt things around Apple 1436 01:13:00,333 --> 01:13:03,033 and got a record deal. 1437 01:13:03,100 --> 01:13:05,700 And if someone knew the Hare Krishna movement, 1438 01:13:05,767 --> 01:13:07,400 he was necessarily the link 1439 01:13:07,467 --> 01:13:11,633 with the popularity gained thanks to the Beatles. 1440 01:13:42,533 --> 01:13:44,533 But, given their experience 1441 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,333 and seeing what I went through 1442 01:13:47,033 --> 01:13:48,367 at a lower level than they 1443 01:13:48,433 --> 01:13:51,800 but I still experienced things with the group, 1444 01:13:52,033 --> 01:13:55,467 you want to find more. 1445 01:13:56,267 --> 01:13:58,233 Play on stage, 1446 01:13:58,300 --> 01:14:01,500 make music, have incredible experiences, 1447 01:14:01,567 --> 01:14:04,500 spice up your life 1448 01:14:05,167 --> 01:14:08,133 and then you have to manage it all. 1449 01:14:08,667 --> 01:14:10,767 They must have said to themselves: 1450 01:14:11,433 --> 01:14:13,733 "We will carry spirituality on another level. " 1451 01:14:14,333 --> 01:14:18,300 Yes, the Maharishi was intelligent. He had a wealthy American 1452 01:14:18,367 --> 01:14:20,433 who praised his merits in America 1453 01:14:20,500 --> 01:14:22,500 and his son became Bungalow Bill 1454 01:14:22,567 --> 01:14:25,433 in the song on The White Album. 1455 01:14:25,700 --> 01:14:32,167 He was aware of the value advertising of these four boys 1456 01:14:32,700 --> 01:14:34,600 the most famous in the world, probably, 1457 01:14:34,667 --> 01:14:37,233 of this most popular group in the world 1458 01:14:37,300 --> 01:14:39,433 even if he didn't know their music. 1459 01:14:39,500 --> 01:14:41,667 He had knowledge of their incredible value 1460 01:14:41,733 --> 01:14:43,267 to spread his message. 1461 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,433 The Maharishi was a gifted businessman 1462 01:14:47,500 --> 01:14:50,167 who had studied physics. 1463 01:14:50,233 --> 01:14:53,400 He had studied physics in college. He had a scientific side 1464 01:14:53,467 --> 01:14:55,533 and an advertising side 1465 01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:58,433 and also a spiritual side. 1466 01:15:14,500 --> 01:15:17,667 We have arrived in Bangor. 1467 01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:20,433 The technicians hadn't arrived. 1468 01:15:20,500 --> 01:15:21,733 I went to town 1469 01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:24,033 with the four Beatles for dinner. 1470 01:15:24,100 --> 01:15:25,667 We went to Chinese. 1471 01:15:26,500 --> 01:15:28,233 An addition of ten pounds 1472 01:15:28,667 --> 01:15:31,033 and I only had five. 1473 01:15:32,300 --> 01:15:35,467 I said, "I'm sorry. These are the Beatles. " 1474 01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:38,733 In front of me, servers from Hong Kong 1475 01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:40,067 surely arrived the day before 1476 01:15:40,500 --> 01:15:42,633 who only heard a Liverpool accent. 1477 01:15:43,367 --> 01:15:45,433 It was quite common, Saturday evenings, 1478 01:15:45,500 --> 01:15:48,100 that the people of Liverpool come here, 1479 01:15:48,533 --> 01:15:50,700 have a big meal and run away 1480 01:15:51,333 --> 01:15:53,700 and they thought ... They closed the doors 1481 01:15:53,767 --> 01:15:55,533 and they sharpened their knives 1482 01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,233 and I said: "I am a reporter for the Sunday Times. 1483 01:15:58,300 --> 01:16:01,567 I wrote books. Here's my card. I'm coming back tomorrow with the money. " 1484 01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,000 It was starting to get worse 1485 01:16:04,067 --> 01:16:07,400 when George put his foot on the table. 1486 01:16:07,467 --> 01:16:10,600 He was wearing Indian sandals. 1487 01:16:11,167 --> 01:16:14,300 He asked for a knife and cut his shoe. 1488 01:16:15,133 --> 01:16:19,033 In fact, the Beatles were famous for four years and, 1489 01:16:19,500 --> 01:16:22,500 like the royal family, they never had money on them. 1490 01:16:23,133 --> 01:16:25,767 The technicians had the money. They never paid. 1491 01:16:26,500 --> 01:16:29,067 George cut out his sandal 1492 01:16:29,133 --> 01:16:30,733 and took out a ยฃ 20 bill. 1493 01:16:31,433 --> 01:16:33,033 In the space of four years, 1494 01:16:33,100 --> 01:16:35,300 they had become famous 1495 01:16:35,367 --> 01:16:37,000 and multimillionaires on paper 1496 01:16:37,467 --> 01:16:40,233 and wore no more money on them. He said to himself: 1497 01:16:40,700 --> 01:16:42,400 "One day, I will need money. 1498 01:16:42,467 --> 01:16:44,133 Or I could be in trouble. " 1499 01:16:44,300 --> 01:16:45,467 And it was that evening. 1500 01:16:49,033 --> 01:16:53,500 Brian Epstein organized a party to celebrate Sgt. Pepper. 1501 01:16:53,567 --> 01:16:56,800 The Beatles originally wanted 1502 01:16:57,133 --> 01:17:01,800 make a promotional film or a concert 1503 01:17:02,033 --> 01:17:05,000 which would correspond to the output but it didn't happen. 1504 01:17:05,567 --> 01:17:11,067 Brian started playing a lot 1505 01:17:11,533 --> 01:17:13,633 and take too many pills 1506 01:17:13,700 --> 01:17:16,267 and all the rest and he was starting to get lost. 1507 01:17:16,333 --> 01:17:19,267 Even Cilla Black and her husband 1508 01:17:19,333 --> 01:17:21,667 had said: "Cilla wants another manager. 1509 01:17:21,733 --> 01:17:23,667 You don't pay attention to anything anymore. " 1510 01:17:23,733 --> 01:17:27,333 He had cried and had begged her to stay. 1511 01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:28,433 Brian was ... 1512 01:17:30,500 --> 01:17:31,367 homosexual. 1513 01:17:32,267 --> 01:17:35,600 And the people in the know had accepted it. 1514 01:17:36,467 --> 01:17:38,633 What was weird was that ... 1515 01:17:40,467 --> 01:17:43,467 Everyone was thinking that he pinched for Paul, 1516 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,133 because Paul was the handsome kid of the Beatles. 1517 01:17:46,567 --> 01:17:50,667 But not at all. He was pinching it for John, because he preferred machos. 1518 01:17:51,267 --> 01:17:54,800 When he went hunting in London, 1519 01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:58,433 he was hitting on the boys who weren't gay. 1520 01:17:59,233 --> 01:18:01,233 He made them drink, he ... 1521 01:18:01,300 --> 01:18:02,600 I found out later. 1522 01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:04,533 He brought them back to his pretty house 1523 01:18:05,467 --> 01:18:06,600 to try to sleep with them 1524 01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:08,400 and there they beat him up 1525 01:18:09,067 --> 01:18:10,233 and it was his pleasure. 1526 01:18:11,267 --> 01:18:13,167 A masochist. He liked to be hit. 1527 01:18:14,233 --> 01:18:19,033 Then they stole things 1528 01:18:19,100 --> 01:18:22,700 often acetates and send them to Radio Luxembourg 1529 01:18:22,767 --> 01:18:24,467 and there was panic 1530 01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:27,567 they don't steal jewelry or money 1531 01:18:27,633 --> 01:18:31,233 but unpublished tapes of the Beatles. 1532 01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:33,667 There was nothing to do for Brian. 1533 01:18:33,733 --> 01:18:36,733 But don't forget that his company, 1534 01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:37,767 NEMS, 1535 01:18:38,267 --> 01:18:42,100 had become the biggest entertainment agency in the world. 1536 01:18:42,167 --> 01:18:44,600 She represented everyone. 1537 01:18:45,100 --> 01:18:48,367 The Beatles, Andy Williams, the Bee Gees, Cream, Donovan, 1538 01:18:49,067 --> 01:18:53,500 Tony Bennett and all this in the space of three or four years. 1539 01:18:54,633 --> 01:18:58,200 {\ an8} If the Beatles had stopped touring, which was the case, 1540 01:19:00,267 --> 01:19:02,767 {\ an8} and their registration contract 1541 01:19:04,067 --> 01:19:05,467 was signed, sealed and delivered, 1542 01:19:05,533 --> 01:19:08,133 just like their advertising contract, 1543 01:19:08,300 --> 01:19:12,133 the manager had nothing more to do, nothing left to negotiate. 1544 01:19:12,467 --> 01:19:15,300 And they were looking at another for personal advice, 1545 01:19:15,367 --> 01:19:18,700 how to live, how to spend their free time, 1546 01:19:18,767 --> 01:19:20,300 how to use their mind. 1547 01:19:20,700 --> 01:19:24,100 He felt more and more abandoned. He was taking drugs more and more. 1548 01:19:24,167 --> 01:19:28,033 He was looking for more partners 1549 01:19:28,100 --> 01:19:29,100 and became fickle. 1550 01:19:29,667 --> 01:19:31,433 He was moving away from them 1551 01:19:31,500 --> 01:19:34,000 as far as they were from him. 1552 01:19:38,567 --> 01:19:42,300 They joined his movement of Transcendental Meditation 1553 01:19:42,367 --> 01:19:46,033 and have agreed to take these courses in Bangor in North Wales. 1554 01:19:46,500 --> 01:19:49,200 It was a real circus when they got off the train 1555 01:19:49,267 --> 01:19:52,667 for this improbable environment 1556 01:19:52,733 --> 01:19:54,233 for training. 1557 01:19:54,500 --> 01:19:58,800 This is where they learned the death of Brian Epstein. 1558 01:19:59,500 --> 01:20:01,433 {\ an8} He was found dead in his room 1559 01:20:01,500 --> 01:20:03,167 {\ an8} around 2 p.m. by his cleaning lady. 1560 01:20:03,233 --> 01:20:04,300 {\ an8} LONDON, AUGUST 27, 1967 1561 01:20:04,367 --> 01:20:06,433 {\ an8} She said he often sleeps late 1562 01:20:06,500 --> 01:20:09,733 especially when he had passed a tiring week at work. 1563 01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,600 Yesterday he would have spent the day at home 1564 01:20:12,667 --> 01:20:15,033 as well as the evening, which is quite unusual. 1565 01:20:15,467 --> 01:20:18,033 M. Epstein was sick for a few months 1566 01:20:18,633 --> 01:20:22,067 and he used to to take sleeping pills to sleep. 1567 01:20:22,300 --> 01:20:24,067 Recently, just a month ago, 1568 01:20:24,133 --> 01:20:27,000 he was upset by the sudden death of his father. 1569 01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:31,767 Friends tried to persuade him to take a few days off. 1570 01:20:32,333 --> 01:20:35,733 But yesterday, he still said: "I'm on top of the world." 1571 01:20:36,533 --> 01:20:38,733 Half an hour ago, a friend ... 1572 01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:40,733 Friends spent the day here. 1573 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:44,400 They came to visit his lawyer, M. David Jacobs. 1574 01:20:44,700 --> 01:20:48,100 One of them left and said to us: 1575 01:20:48,533 --> 01:20:49,600 "It was an accident." 1576 01:20:49,667 --> 01:20:52,533 He was an unhappy man. 1577 01:20:53,333 --> 01:20:56,567 He never had real partners. 1578 01:20:56,667 --> 01:20:59,800 He had had several, some of whom worked for Apple, 1579 01:21:00,033 --> 01:21:03,567 but it never changed into a real relationship. 1580 01:21:03,633 --> 01:21:08,433 And when it happened, he had the boys and it had gone wrong. 1581 01:21:09,100 --> 01:21:10,233 He was depressed. 1582 01:21:11,233 --> 01:21:14,233 He took pills thinking of suicide. 1583 01:21:15,067 --> 01:21:17,400 He did not commit suicide but ... 1584 01:21:18,033 --> 01:21:20,500 He had attempted suicide before. 1585 01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:24,800 And that depressed him. 1586 01:21:26,533 --> 01:21:29,200 Would you like to pay tribute to Mr. Epstein? 1587 01:21:29,733 --> 01:21:33,333 We are speechless. We loved it. He was one of us. 1588 01:21:33,667 --> 01:21:37,467 - You can't ... - Not a tribute with words. 1589 01:21:38,300 --> 01:21:39,400 What do you plan to do? 1590 01:21:40,033 --> 01:21:43,600 Go back to London and be useful. 1591 01:21:44,533 --> 01:21:46,800 Do you have a comfort message? 1592 01:21:48,633 --> 01:21:49,600 Yes, we ... 1593 01:21:49,667 --> 01:21:54,333 Meditation has given us enough confidence to endure such an ordeal 1594 01:21:54,467 --> 01:21:56,333 even in such a short time. 1595 01:21:58,167 --> 01:22:01,267 We learned that ... 1596 01:22:02,767 --> 01:22:06,167 Death doesn't really exist. 1597 01:22:06,267 --> 01:22:08,333 It's a death on a physical level but ... 1598 01:22:09,033 --> 01:22:12,467 Life goes on and we have to move on. 1599 01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:14,267 But ... 1600 01:22:14,700 --> 01:22:17,567 It's not as disappointing as ... 1601 01:22:18,267 --> 01:22:19,667 It is and it is not. 1602 01:22:20,533 --> 01:22:25,367 which is comforting, is knowing that he's okay now. 1603 01:22:26,733 --> 01:22:31,533 I see you have discussed it with the Maharishi this afternoon. 1604 01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,333 What are the tips that he gave you? 1605 01:22:35,467 --> 01:22:36,333 He told us ... 1606 01:22:38,067 --> 01:22:40,533 not to let us overwhelm by grief and ... 1607 01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,333 To make our memories with Brian happy times, 1608 01:22:43,767 --> 01:22:48,167 because all our thoughts for him will travel to him. 1609 01:22:48,300 --> 01:22:50,100 He had met Mr. Epstein? 1610 01:22:50,167 --> 01:22:52,267 No, but he couldn't wait to do it. 1611 01:22:53,167 --> 01:22:54,333 - Tomorrow? - Yes. 1612 01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:56,233 Thank you very much. 1613 01:22:56,300 --> 01:22:59,433 In this interview, we can see that John is in shock. 1614 01:22:59,500 --> 01:23:01,733 They were really fascinated by the Maharishi. 1615 01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:05,300 It was not another diversion. 1616 01:23:05,500 --> 01:23:06,700 They believed it. 1617 01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:11,533 {\ an8} They were immersed in this chaotic world. 1618 01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,000 {\ an8} Brian was dead. 1619 01:23:13,767 --> 01:23:14,800 And it was ... 1620 01:23:15,033 --> 01:23:16,300 EPSTEIN (THE MAN WHO MADE THE BEATLES) IS DEAD AT 32 1621 01:23:16,367 --> 01:23:22,667 There is always a moment in our lives where we turn to religion 1622 01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:28,467 as a lifestyle, as a philosophy, looking for answers. 1623 01:23:28,733 --> 01:23:31,167 And that's what they did. 1624 01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,300 {\ an8} A friend called me very early. 1625 01:23:35,733 --> 01:23:39,067 {\ an8} I couldn't believe it. 1626 01:23:39,133 --> 01:23:43,533 And I said to myself: "Where are we going now?" 1627 01:23:44,667 --> 01:23:48,033 It was a terrible shock for everyone. 1628 01:23:49,467 --> 01:23:51,300 Where were we going now? 1629 01:23:51,367 --> 01:23:54,600 The Maharishi said to them: 1630 01:23:56,333 --> 01:23:58,267 "Don't worry, he ... 1631 01:23:59,133 --> 01:24:01,100 He took the next step. 1632 01:24:01,633 --> 01:24:04,000 Do not be sad. 1633 01:24:04,300 --> 01:24:07,100 He left and it will turn into that. 1634 01:24:07,167 --> 01:24:09,333 He charged them all this nonsense. 1635 01:24:10,033 --> 01:24:12,267 Unfortunately, the Beatles were interviewed 1636 01:24:13,067 --> 01:24:15,033 just after. 1637 01:24:15,800 --> 01:24:19,600 The Maharishi had told them all these nonsense 1638 01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,133 and they passed for insensitive beings. 1639 01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:27,600 Brian's mother and brother Clive, 1640 01:24:28,300 --> 01:24:29,767 were furious because of that. 1641 01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:31,733 The impression it gave. 1642 01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,433 The week Brian thought go to Bangor, 1643 01:24:34,667 --> 01:24:36,500 in fact, he stayed at home. 1644 01:24:36,733 --> 01:24:40,367 That weekend, Robert Stigwood invited me 1645 01:24:40,433 --> 01:24:42,000 to have a drink. 1646 01:24:42,067 --> 01:24:44,067 When I got there, Brian was at home 1647 01:24:44,133 --> 01:24:46,300 and we sat down to watch ... 1648 01:24:46,367 --> 01:24:49,333 We watched sport on TV and we had a few drinks. 1649 01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:51,233 Then we went to Battersea Fun Fair 1650 01:24:51,300 --> 01:24:53,600 and we had fun for two hours. 1651 01:24:53,667 --> 01:24:56,000 We had to smoke, because we laughed a lot. 1652 01:24:56,067 --> 01:24:57,733 I remember I was laughing 1653 01:24:57,800 --> 01:24:59,700 and one was not without the other. 1654 01:25:00,267 --> 01:25:02,033 Then we went to dinner. 1655 01:25:02,300 --> 01:25:05,367 At the end of the dinner, Brian said to me: "I would like us to do that again. 1656 01:25:05,533 --> 01:25:08,567 You are free ?" And we organized a dinner the next day. 1657 01:25:08,633 --> 01:25:11,167 The next day, I found Brian at his house 1658 01:25:11,233 --> 01:25:14,567 and we went to Fredericks for dinner. 1659 01:25:15,067 --> 01:25:18,300 We went home to have a few drinks. 1660 01:25:18,633 --> 01:25:21,633 And I understood after a few drinks brandy 1661 01:25:21,700 --> 01:25:23,533 that Brian wanted me to stay. 1662 01:25:23,667 --> 01:25:26,133 But I didn't mean to. 1663 01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:30,267 So I said to him, "I'm going." Brian pouted. 1664 01:25:30,333 --> 01:25:33,067 I said, "Sorry. I'm leaving. It's like that." 1665 01:25:33,433 --> 01:25:35,433 And he told me ... I was leaving and he said to me: 1666 01:25:35,500 --> 01:25:37,300 "Can you stay all weekend?" 1667 01:25:37,367 --> 01:25:39,000 And so what ? 1668 01:25:39,067 --> 01:25:42,100 I knew he wanted me to stay and I didn't want to stay. 1669 01:25:42,167 --> 01:25:45,433 I said, "We'll see later." The next day, on the phone, he said to me: 1670 01:25:45,500 --> 01:25:47,500 "You come to spend the weekend in the countryside ?" 1671 01:25:47,567 --> 01:25:49,000 "No, I'm going to Ireland." 1672 01:25:49,433 --> 01:25:51,600 What do we know on Brian's end of life? 1673 01:25:52,267 --> 01:25:53,133 {\ an8} Not much. 1674 01:25:54,700 --> 01:25:56,133 {\ an8} And we will never know anything. 1675 01:25:57,100 --> 01:26:01,033 {\ an8} I spoke to Jo the next day and she ... 1676 01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:04,800 They could not... 1677 01:26:05,267 --> 01:26:06,767 They didn't know he was at home. 1678 01:26:07,300 --> 01:26:09,767 He was supposed to be to his country house. 1679 01:26:10,067 --> 01:26:13,600 And she got this call 1680 01:26:13,667 --> 01:26:16,767 from the driver saying to him: "I can't open the door." 1681 01:26:17,333 --> 01:26:21,667 She went there and she found it. 1682 01:26:22,533 --> 01:26:25,067 I said, at that time: 1683 01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:29,500 "I do not understand. He was so happy there. 1684 01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:31,733 Why did he come back? 1685 01:26:33,200 --> 01:26:35,133 Right in the middle of the weekend? " 1686 01:26:36,633 --> 01:26:39,367 But no one will know what happened. Never. 1687 01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:40,700 So... 1688 01:26:42,133 --> 01:26:44,500 You know about Brian and me. I continue ? 1689 01:26:44,567 --> 01:26:45,667 - Yes. - Okay. 1690 01:26:46,133 --> 01:26:49,500 While I was in Ireland, I got a call from a friend 1691 01:26:49,567 --> 01:26:51,200 saying: "Brian Epstein is dead." 1692 01:26:51,700 --> 01:26:54,233 I immediately looked at the newspapers 1693 01:26:54,300 --> 01:26:57,567 and they said he was found that morning died of an overdose. 1694 01:26:57,633 --> 01:27:01,300 I had at home the very first answering machine 1695 01:27:01,367 --> 01:27:04,167 that the company had had specially for me. 1696 01:27:04,233 --> 01:27:07,333 They were experimenting what we could do with it. 1697 01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,700 I had a sixth sense inside me. 1698 01:27:09,767 --> 01:27:13,667 I knew that when I got home in London i would press the button 1699 01:27:14,033 --> 01:27:15,533 and there would be a message from Brian. 1700 01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:18,167 I was sure of it. I came home and I pressed 1701 01:27:18,300 --> 01:27:20,267 and there were several messages from Brian. 1702 01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,467 He had gone to the countryside as expected. 1703 01:27:24,033 --> 01:27:26,667 He called my house when I was not there 1704 01:27:27,033 --> 01:27:30,100 to say to me, "If you're here, join me in the countryside. " 1705 01:27:30,167 --> 01:27:32,333 Then he said, "I'm going home. 1706 01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:33,433 You can pass ?" 1707 01:27:33,500 --> 01:27:36,333 I did not hear these messages. I was in Ireland. 1708 01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:39,500 The messages continued. They were more and more vague. 1709 01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,033 And it was obvious, by listening to them, 1710 01:27:42,100 --> 01:27:44,500 that he had taken pills to sleep. 1711 01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:49,067 Each time he woke up, he had to start again one, forgetting that he had already taken it. 1712 01:27:49,267 --> 01:27:51,400 And the last message was very vague. 1713 01:27:51,467 --> 01:27:54,200 Said, "I wish you were here." 1714 01:27:54,667 --> 01:27:57,333 And other personal things which I will not repeat. 1715 01:27:57,800 --> 01:27:59,033 Then he died. 1716 01:27:59,633 --> 01:28:01,567 So I was a little involved. 1717 01:28:01,633 --> 01:28:04,700 And I did the stupid thing what the English do, 1718 01:28:04,767 --> 01:28:06,400 I erased the tape. 1719 01:28:10,100 --> 01:28:11,767 I couldn't listen to them again. 1720 01:28:12,133 --> 01:28:13,000 And There you go. 1721 01:28:13,400 --> 01:28:15,300 I didn't know the value of these things. 1722 01:28:24,467 --> 01:28:29,467 {\ an8} BRIAN SAMUEL EPSTEIN SEP 19, 1934 - AUGUST 27, 1967 1723 01:28:35,233 --> 01:28:37,667 Brian Epstein was part of it all. 1724 01:28:37,733 --> 01:28:39,367 And it was a real shock, 1725 01:28:39,433 --> 01:28:41,633 because we said to ourselves: "Will they recover? 1726 01:28:41,700 --> 01:28:43,000 What's going to happen ?" 1727 01:28:45,100 --> 01:28:48,267 In hindsight, it's as if he had played his part. 1728 01:28:48,767 --> 01:28:52,100 He left in this other spirit world ... 1729 01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:54,667 They were going elsewhere. 1730 01:28:55,733 --> 01:29:00,667 They realized that they had lost a protective shield. 1731 01:29:00,733 --> 01:29:03,100 Like a protective parent. 1732 01:29:03,533 --> 01:29:07,767 Brian's negotiations weren't the best for the Beatles. 1733 01:29:09,100 --> 01:29:12,667 Because he was always late, negotiations already made. 1734 01:29:13,100 --> 01:29:15,500 He didn't understand this new territory. 1735 01:29:16,300 --> 01:29:21,200 But despite that, he was entirely dedicated to their protection. 1736 01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:23,367 As... 1737 01:29:24,133 --> 01:29:27,300 During the sentence scandal "more popular than Jesus" 1738 01:29:27,367 --> 01:29:28,467 from John. 1739 01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:31,400 Brian wanted to cancel the tour american 1740 01:29:31,467 --> 01:29:33,300 he was so worried about them. 1741 01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:37,167 But, ultimately, contractually, he couldn't but he wanted to. 1742 01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:41,067 That's what was gone, that shield. A waterproof shield 1743 01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:44,067 that he provided them as soon as he met them. 1744 01:29:44,467 --> 01:29:48,100 He did everything to help them ... 1745 01:29:49,133 --> 01:29:52,000 Brian's group. 1746 01:29:52,700 --> 01:29:56,567 Pete Brown and the members from the NEMS office, 1747 01:29:58,133 --> 01:30:00,133 they maintained the Beatles. 1748 01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:01,500 They paid their bills, 1749 01:30:02,167 --> 01:30:04,133 they bought gifts 1750 01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:06,000 for their girlfriends and their wives. 1751 01:30:06,067 --> 01:30:07,800 It was said that Brian was not a good manager. 1752 01:30:08,033 --> 01:30:10,633 He had not been the best when they had become 1753 01:30:10,733 --> 01:30:12,700 a mega-group and to earn money. 1754 01:30:13,100 --> 01:30:14,633 But without him, they never would have existed. 1755 01:30:14,700 --> 01:30:17,167 It was his perseverance ... His affection for them, 1756 01:30:17,233 --> 01:30:19,567 his certainty that they would pierce 1757 01:30:19,633 --> 01:30:21,000 and that their music was great. 1758 01:30:21,067 --> 01:30:23,267 He did other things what managers do 1759 01:30:23,333 --> 01:30:24,400 and he did them well. 1760 01:30:24,467 --> 01:30:26,600 How to keep profiteers away from them. 1761 01:30:26,667 --> 01:30:29,267 He built a wall between them and all profiteers. 1762 01:30:29,633 --> 01:30:32,400 Which is weird, for he never succeeded in erecting a wall 1763 01:30:32,467 --> 01:30:34,567 between himself and those who took advantage of him, 1764 01:30:34,633 --> 01:30:37,200 who clung to him and stole money from him. 1765 01:30:37,267 --> 01:30:39,100 He knew how to do it with the Beatles. 1766 01:30:39,167 --> 01:30:40,567 He kept them away. 1767 01:30:40,633 --> 01:30:45,367 So without him ... Far from his cautious attitude 1768 01:30:45,433 --> 01:30:49,800 facing money and finance which has ... All the profiteers flocked. 1769 01:30:50,733 --> 01:30:53,200 Sometimes in a group, we need a referee. 1770 01:30:53,267 --> 01:30:55,700 Few groups are still agree on everything. 1771 01:30:56,067 --> 01:30:58,700 We saw that with Help! 1772 01:30:58,767 --> 01:31:02,000 when they all go through the same door and all live together 1773 01:31:02,067 --> 01:31:04,000 but it was only a moment For the movie. 1774 01:31:04,067 --> 01:31:06,433 Everyone knows that in a group, 1775 01:31:06,733 --> 01:31:09,567 the characters develop. 1776 01:31:10,233 --> 01:31:12,000 And you don't always the same view 1777 01:31:12,067 --> 01:31:16,467 but you have this thing that makes it work. 1778 01:31:16,667 --> 01:31:19,067 A consensus with which each member of the group 1779 01:31:19,133 --> 01:31:22,167 rather agrees and everything is fine. 1780 01:31:22,433 --> 01:31:27,267 When Brian left, there was no longer referee to supervise. 1781 01:31:27,333 --> 01:31:29,300 They didn't know how to do anything by themselves. 1782 01:31:29,767 --> 01:31:31,400 They had never done anything. 1783 01:31:31,467 --> 01:31:34,067 He was still there. 1784 01:31:36,333 --> 01:31:40,467 In the group, he was the one who kept it all together. 1785 01:31:41,100 --> 01:31:43,333 They bounced back pretty quickly 1786 01:31:43,400 --> 01:31:45,200 if we think about it logically. 1787 01:31:45,500 --> 01:31:46,667 And they launched Apple. 1788 01:31:46,733 --> 01:31:50,300 {\ an8} Apple was a financial measure to try to consolidate their fortune ... 1789 01:31:50,367 --> 01:31:52,033 {\ an8} INAUGURATION OF APPLE STORE DEC 1967 1790 01:31:52,100 --> 01:31:55,533 {\ an8} ... and to try to escape at huge taxes 1791 01:31:56,033 --> 01:31:58,467 by investing in a business. 1792 01:31:59,133 --> 01:32:02,200 It was all based on ... And it was a mistake. 1793 01:32:02,667 --> 01:32:07,100 It hadn't been planned to protect their copyright. 1794 01:32:07,567 --> 01:32:10,400 It was a financial measure in the short term. 1795 01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:15,633 It was a music label with a secondary affair. 1796 01:32:15,700 --> 01:32:20,267 The Beatles' influence had spread to other areas like fashion. 1797 01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:22,267 They were going to have a shop ... 1798 01:32:23,267 --> 01:32:25,033 They were going to do everything. 1799 01:32:25,100 --> 01:32:27,500 But it was also a kind de Conseil Artistique 1800 01:32:27,733 --> 01:32:34,333 where deserving young creators could find help and support. 1801 01:32:34,433 --> 01:32:37,333 Because the Beatles remembered from the time they were ... 1802 01:32:37,400 --> 01:32:38,633 Where they had ... 1803 01:32:38,700 --> 01:32:40,667 The Beatles have always been supportive. 1804 01:32:41,033 --> 01:32:42,233 It was a legend. 1805 01:32:42,300 --> 01:32:45,267 Brian Epstein, George Martin. 1806 01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:48,033 Dick James. 1807 01:32:48,300 --> 01:32:50,367 Three honest men 1808 01:32:50,667 --> 01:32:53,267 who encouraged them and valued them. 1809 01:32:53,333 --> 01:32:56,733 But they had suffered. So they were going to help 1810 01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,567 the suffering people of the creative community. 1811 01:32:59,633 --> 01:33:02,267 I interviewed Paul and he was swarming with ideas 1812 01:33:02,333 --> 01:33:05,100 about a communist Mark and Spencer's. 1813 01:33:05,433 --> 01:33:08,433 And I said to myself: "It will never work." 1814 01:33:08,567 --> 01:33:11,733 But I also said to myself: "I'm not so sure." 1815 01:33:12,100 --> 01:33:14,533 Because we said: "It's very interesting but ... 1816 01:33:16,133 --> 01:33:17,733 it's Paul" 1817 01:33:17,800 --> 01:33:21,533 and they might be right. It turned out not. 1818 01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:25,433 This is how Alice Pollock and Ossie Clark imagine the girls this summer. 1819 01:33:25,500 --> 01:33:27,533 And here are two of the Beatles. 1820 01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:30,367 George Harrison ... His wife Patti Boyd paraded. 1821 01:33:30,433 --> 01:33:31,467 And John Lennon. 1822 01:33:37,500 --> 01:33:39,800 From the haircut to the dress 1823 01:33:40,033 --> 01:33:42,567 or the leather outfit called Baz which is worth 25 guineas. 1824 01:33:44,533 --> 01:33:46,300 Patti Boyd carries the African Queen. 1825 01:33:46,567 --> 01:33:48,767 All in crepe and it's worth nine and a half guineas. 1826 01:33:49,133 --> 01:33:52,033 More casual, a white satin jacket and black pants. 1827 01:33:52,167 --> 01:33:53,133 Ten guineas together. 1828 01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:55,800 I worked for the Apple Store from the start. 1829 01:33:56,433 --> 01:34:01,367 I had been there for three months when we went to India. 1830 01:34:01,767 --> 01:34:05,767 And it was so different of everything around us. 1831 01:34:06,067 --> 01:34:09,067 To start, the beautiful Indian jewelry 1832 01:34:09,133 --> 01:34:12,767 and Ganesha's posters, of gods and goddesses. 1833 01:34:14,133 --> 01:34:18,267 It was very exciting to work there and it was so different. 1834 01:34:18,333 --> 01:34:22,533 But you always had to stick to what we felt at that time. 1835 01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:25,533 This is... 1836 01:34:26,767 --> 01:34:30,233 The world can be colorful. It is not necessarily in black and white. 1837 01:34:30,633 --> 01:34:31,700 Have they seen you before? 1838 01:34:32,633 --> 01:34:34,000 - Last night? - Yesterday. 1839 01:34:34,067 --> 01:34:37,400 Yesterday they came to see me for ten minutes. 1840 01:34:39,133 --> 01:34:42,267 And, now, they've been with me for 10 hours. 1841 01:34:43,233 --> 01:34:44,633 After their breakfast. 1842 01:34:45,667 --> 01:34:47,067 How long did they stay? 1843 01:34:47,767 --> 01:34:50,367 From 10 a.m. to now. About three hours. 1844 01:34:51,067 --> 01:34:52,000 What did you do? 1845 01:34:52,067 --> 01:34:53,533 Have you meditated or discussed? 1846 01:34:54,500 --> 01:34:58,300 Meditation, discussion and meditation. They are very intelligent. 1847 01:34:59,133 --> 01:35:03,600 Will they become graduate spiritual guides? 1848 01:35:04,167 --> 01:35:06,000 - What will be their status? - I hope so. 1849 01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:09,700 what should they do to achieve this goal? 1850 01:35:10,133 --> 01:35:16,033 To reach this goal, they must have a deep experience of being. 1851 01:35:16,433 --> 01:35:21,333 A doctor said to me, even if it was wrong, that I suffered from angina. 1852 01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:23,100 In fact, it was something else. 1853 01:35:23,167 --> 01:35:25,133 Different people came to see me. 1854 01:35:25,300 --> 01:35:27,767 John and Cynthia came one day, 1855 01:35:28,500 --> 01:35:31,067 and John said: "I made this drawing for you." 1856 01:35:31,467 --> 01:35:35,767 It was the drawing of an Indian with a turban on his head. 1857 01:35:36,267 --> 01:35:40,133 He was playing the flute, sitting on the floor, cross-legged. 1858 01:35:40,200 --> 01:35:43,533 A snake was coming out of a basket placed at his feet. 1859 01:35:43,733 --> 01:35:45,200 There was an inscription: 1860 01:35:45,667 --> 01:35:48,300 "By the power to bring in and bring out, 1861 01:35:48,700 --> 01:35:52,600 I beg your angina to go away. Sincerely, John and Cyn. " 1862 01:35:53,500 --> 01:35:56,400 George often said, "Take LSD 1863 01:35:56,467 --> 01:35:59,767 gave me insights but it was like climbing a mountain, 1864 01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:03,300 look on the other side of the summit and see that there are others. " 1865 01:36:03,367 --> 01:36:05,600 He wanted to continue his quest 1866 01:36:06,667 --> 01:36:08,533 but drug free. 1867 01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:12,200 And it gave them a kind of natural break. 1868 01:36:12,267 --> 01:36:16,667 It gave them an excuse to meet elsewhere, in peace. 1869 01:36:16,733 --> 01:36:19,633 I do not know how the Maharishi entered their life 1870 01:36:19,700 --> 01:36:21,167 but he was not the first. 1871 01:36:21,633 --> 01:36:24,633 I was often with the group. 1872 01:36:24,700 --> 01:36:27,467 I saw them every night at the Scotch of St. James. 1873 01:36:27,533 --> 01:36:31,100 We already knew that they saw another person like that. 1874 01:36:31,433 --> 01:36:33,433 The Maharishi came second. 1875 01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:36,600 As they went up the stairs of Indian mysticism, 1876 01:36:36,667 --> 01:36:40,633 they realized that their Maharishi was not as high up as that. 1877 01:36:41,167 --> 01:36:43,800 So they went to India with this Maharishi. 1878 01:36:44,500 --> 01:36:46,667 Who, we all knew, was a bit of an impostor 1879 01:36:46,733 --> 01:36:48,500 and who was not so high up. 1880 01:36:48,633 --> 01:36:51,700 But he had followed them up in five star hotels. 1881 01:36:52,233 --> 01:36:54,600 It's nice to adhere to Indian mysticism 1882 01:36:54,667 --> 01:36:59,267 and all its ascetic dimension while doing it in big hotels. 1883 01:36:59,800 --> 01:37:01,167 This is a funny story. 1884 01:37:01,233 --> 01:37:04,133 When they decided to go see the Maharishi in India. 1885 01:37:05,233 --> 01:37:09,633 Maureen was ... Ringo's wife had a blue fear of insects. 1886 01:37:10,267 --> 01:37:14,033 So she went to Harrods to buy a sleepsuit 1887 01:37:14,100 --> 01:37:15,467 but adult size. 1888 01:37:15,767 --> 01:37:18,100 So that they cannot climb on it. 1889 01:37:19,300 --> 01:37:23,100 And Richie, who always had fragile stomach 1890 01:37:23,167 --> 01:37:24,600 because of an illness, child, 1891 01:37:25,567 --> 01:37:30,600 said to me: "Can you buy me from Dr. Collis Browne, several liters, 1892 01:37:32,100 --> 01:37:35,067 and white beans in sauce and put it all in a suitcase? 1893 01:37:35,300 --> 01:37:37,367 White beans, Collis Browne. " 1894 01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:41,133 So, I obeyed and it was full. 1895 01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:44,000 This suitcase full of Collis Browne and of... 1896 01:37:45,233 --> 01:37:47,133 They returned two weeks later. 1897 01:37:48,267 --> 01:37:50,633 I said to Maureen: "It has been a long stay. 1898 01:37:50,700 --> 01:37:53,267 You got rid of all the white beans? " 1899 01:37:54,167 --> 01:37:56,633 Obviously the concept of Apple 1900 01:37:56,700 --> 01:37:58,367 was born before Brian died. 1901 01:37:58,433 --> 01:38:00,267 He was also worried about that, 1902 01:38:00,333 --> 01:38:04,167 it would take him away even more. Because he had not been consulted. 1903 01:38:04,233 --> 01:38:06,600 They weren't pushing him out 1904 01:38:06,667 --> 01:38:10,233 but it was not a project who was born at his instigation. 1905 01:38:10,333 --> 01:38:14,000 I heard about Apple a few weeks before his death. 1906 01:38:14,167 --> 01:38:16,633 It was one more element that made him feel 1907 01:38:16,700 --> 01:38:18,333 that he was no longer part of the group. 1908 01:38:19,333 --> 01:38:20,533 When they launched Apple, 1909 01:38:21,667 --> 01:38:25,367 we had lunch at the head office. 1910 01:38:27,333 --> 01:38:30,033 We had a chef and everything. 1911 01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:32,700 One day Paul came by 1912 01:38:33,167 --> 01:38:36,400 and they were losing money. They were giving too much. 1913 01:38:37,333 --> 01:38:42,633 He said, "I brought in a guy who will tell us where we are wrong 1914 01:38:42,700 --> 01:38:45,267 in our business plans. " 1915 01:38:46,300 --> 01:38:48,400 {\ an8} It was Beeching. 1916 01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:50,800 {\ an8} They invited him to lunch ... 1917 01:38:51,033 --> 01:38:52,733 {\ an8} PRESIDENT OF BRITISH RAILWAYS 1918 01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:57,000 {\ an8} ... to use his brain to understand what they were doing wrong. 1919 01:38:57,500 --> 01:38:59,567 They had lunch 1920 01:39:00,567 --> 01:39:03,700 and I took the notes at the meeting that followed. 1921 01:39:06,467 --> 01:39:08,733 He looked at Paul and said, 1922 01:39:09,767 --> 01:39:12,533 "I'm not going to help you much. 1923 01:39:12,700 --> 01:39:17,400 Because I work for organizations much larger than Apple. " 1924 01:39:18,033 --> 01:39:20,567 And Paul said to himself, "Oh, my God." 1925 01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:25,800 I looked at Paul and said, "Indeed." 1926 01:39:26,600 --> 01:39:29,300 They had good ideas but also eccentric ideas. 1927 01:39:29,367 --> 01:39:32,533 They wanted to open a school, publish books. 1928 01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:36,733 A lot of things. Great ambitions. And they appealed to people: 1929 01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:39,500 "Send us your poems, your stories, your novels. " 1930 01:39:39,567 --> 01:39:42,300 They found themselves with rooms full of stuff 1931 01:39:42,367 --> 01:39:45,267 without being able to look at them. They weren't prepared for it. 1932 01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:48,700 And here is another area where they were the pioneers. 1933 01:39:48,767 --> 01:39:51,000 They didn't go all the way but they started 1934 01:39:51,067 --> 01:39:53,133 to have more control on their products. 1935 01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:57,067 Check the album covers. 1936 01:39:57,133 --> 01:39:58,800 The appearance of things. 1937 01:39:59,033 --> 01:40:00,800 They controlled their equipment. 1938 01:40:01,033 --> 01:40:04,000 But not as much as the percentage that we have today. 1939 01:40:04,067 --> 01:40:06,033 Apple's problem and the Apple Store 1940 01:40:06,100 --> 01:40:08,167 and everything in this building, 1941 01:40:08,233 --> 01:40:12,000 was that they had money, they were free, 1942 01:40:12,067 --> 01:40:15,167 they had ideas from India, ideas of the Maharishi. 1943 01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:18,167 And a bunch of profiteers. 1944 01:40:18,367 --> 01:40:20,233 Profiteers who were rather ... 1945 01:40:20,300 --> 01:40:22,267 Who were rather talented. 1946 01:40:22,333 --> 01:40:23,700 Like Magic Alex. 1947 01:40:24,333 --> 01:40:30,100 Who thought it was possible to have a roll of wallpaper with microphones 1948 01:40:30,500 --> 01:40:32,733 who would give the best sound? 1949 01:40:33,467 --> 01:40:34,533 Magic Alex. 1950 01:40:35,167 --> 01:40:39,533 And of all, John was the most convinced of his magical talents. 1951 01:40:41,233 --> 01:40:42,100 They were... 1952 01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:45,367 We were all naive. 1953 01:40:45,433 --> 01:40:47,567 All of this was a new experience. 1954 01:40:48,733 --> 01:40:51,133 But I think it was great 1955 01:40:51,467 --> 01:40:54,400 they have not been transformed by celebrity. 1956 01:40:55,333 --> 01:40:57,167 Everyone who came up with an idea ... 1957 01:40:57,233 --> 01:40:59,267 If someone said: "I'm making spilled cream", 1958 01:40:59,333 --> 01:41:02,300 John would have said: "We will eat it at every lunch." 1959 01:41:02,367 --> 01:41:04,700 Anyone could be hired over there. 1960 01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:08,033 So it quickly got crowded. Second-rate people ... 1961 01:41:08,100 --> 01:41:10,500 Very charming but second-rate. 1962 01:41:11,133 --> 01:41:13,133 The same thing happened with the Boutique. 1963 01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:15,167 If you designed clothes 1964 01:41:15,233 --> 01:41:18,133 which was nothing commercial, so it was for the Boutique. 1965 01:41:18,467 --> 01:41:21,000 Everything they touched at that time 1966 01:41:21,067 --> 01:41:23,233 seemed non-commercial. 1967 01:41:23,300 --> 01:41:27,500 Neil was incredibly conscientious and a deeply good man. 1968 01:41:29,100 --> 01:41:31,367 And Peter worked hard. 1969 01:41:32,500 --> 01:41:37,000 The office was running smoothly and efficient. 1970 01:41:38,267 --> 01:41:41,233 I had an office between Neil's and Peter's. 1971 01:41:42,233 --> 01:41:46,467 Neil and Mal were working on the start 1972 01:41:46,533 --> 01:41:51,100 from "The Long and Winding Road", memory of a cassette. 1973 01:41:52,167 --> 01:41:54,500 At that time, I was busy ... 1974 01:41:57,167 --> 01:41:58,633 mail with America. 1975 01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:04,367 All journalists asking: "Do you have old pictures?" 1976 01:42:05,467 --> 01:42:08,200 It's like that that we have recovered everything. 1977 01:42:08,267 --> 01:42:10,100 They were very gifted. 1978 01:42:10,467 --> 01:42:15,600 This night, I was heading for Neil's office. 1979 01:42:16,533 --> 01:42:20,100 Neil and Mal were by the fire. I will never forget him. 1980 01:42:21,033 --> 01:42:23,267 And I had to go over ... 1981 01:42:23,700 --> 01:42:26,167 I shouldn't say that. 1982 01:42:28,300 --> 01:42:30,300 Over Derek Taylor, who was fucking on the floor 1983 01:42:30,633 --> 01:42:32,433 and which prevented me from passing. 1984 01:42:32,500 --> 01:42:35,000 The cartoon was making fun a bit of Maharishi. 1985 01:42:35,067 --> 01:42:37,533 does that mean that youโ€™re done with him 1986 01:42:37,767 --> 01:42:41,200 - and you laugh at him? - We have passed this phase. 1987 01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:42,733 It was kind of a phase. 1988 01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:45,500 But he's a good man and everyone is fine 1989 01:42:45,567 --> 01:42:47,567 but we don't want any more hang out with him. 1990 01:42:49,333 --> 01:42:53,067 I knew he was an impostor at first sight. 1991 01:42:53,133 --> 01:42:54,100 I thought to myself, "My God." 1992 01:42:54,467 --> 01:42:56,600 One of the problems ... And John was the worst, 1993 01:42:56,667 --> 01:42:58,567 because he clung to things. 1994 01:42:58,633 --> 01:43:02,267 He clung to things and was easily influenced. 1995 01:43:04,167 --> 01:43:07,067 It can be a problem from which they have been protected. 1996 01:43:07,133 --> 01:43:09,667 They were locked up in the Beatles for a long time. 1997 01:43:10,167 --> 01:43:11,333 They were... 1998 01:43:11,733 --> 01:43:16,267 I was like, "This guy is a crook." 1999 01:43:16,333 --> 01:43:19,000 I am on that there is something behind. 2000 01:43:19,067 --> 01:43:22,400 Meditation can provide well-being for those who like it. 2001 01:43:22,467 --> 01:43:26,133 But I didn't believe it. And I still don't believe it. 2002 01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:30,467 The Beatles believed on the spiritual side of things. 2003 01:43:32,300 --> 01:43:33,733 And they wanted to spread this. 2004 01:43:34,367 --> 01:43:37,233 The Maharishi saw in them 2005 01:43:38,700 --> 01:43:40,733 their international celebrity. 2006 01:43:42,433 --> 01:43:44,433 They could spread his message. 2007 01:43:45,000 --> 01:43:48,267 Originally, their idea was to develop 2008 01:43:48,333 --> 01:43:50,533 a school of Transcendental Meditation in London 2009 01:43:50,733 --> 01:43:52,800 and the Beatles would have been one of them. 2010 01:43:53,767 --> 01:43:56,700 Patti had dreams of the Maharishi 2011 01:43:56,767 --> 01:43:59,433 who were showing it in a whole different light. 2012 01:44:00,400 --> 01:44:01,333 And ... 2013 01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:05,300 And there was a connection to Mia Farrow. 2014 01:44:05,367 --> 01:44:07,300 There were a lot of people. 2015 01:44:07,367 --> 01:44:10,100 But I think they were miles away 2016 01:44:11,267 --> 01:44:13,700 and it was a very different life and he was there, 2017 01:44:14,267 --> 01:44:17,233 to meditate six or seven hours in a row, 2018 01:44:17,300 --> 01:44:19,267 sometimes at night, sometimes for several days. 2019 01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:21,300 And it was completely different 2020 01:44:21,367 --> 01:44:25,200 what everyone was used to, especially the Beatles. 2021 01:44:25,267 --> 01:44:28,600 In one way, the Maharishi had a bad reputation 2022 01:44:28,667 --> 01:44:30,700 but it was rather harmless. 2023 01:44:30,767 --> 01:44:34,500 He was a little strange. 2024 01:44:34,567 --> 01:44:38,333 Today you couldn't say that. 2025 01:44:38,400 --> 01:44:41,133 His character was ridiculous. 2026 01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:45,200 And he said things which cannot be answered 2027 01:44:45,267 --> 01:44:48,233 like "Love each other" and all that. 2028 01:44:49,000 --> 01:44:52,400 It was an extension of hippie philosophy. 2029 01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:57,000 Poor Maharishi has learned that his best assets were leaving him 2030 01:44:57,067 --> 01:44:59,300 and he sat watching them go 2031 01:44:59,367 --> 01:45:02,300 with this man holding an umbrella above him. 2032 01:45:02,367 --> 01:45:04,233 He said, "Why are you leaving?" 2033 01:45:04,467 --> 01:45:06,000 He really didn't understand. 2034 01:45:06,433 --> 01:45:09,533 I know that John had a famous reply ... 2035 01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:11,367 I don't remember but he said: 2036 01:45:11,433 --> 01:45:14,333 "If you were so cosmic, you should know that. " 2037 01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:16,267 And it was over. 2038 01:45:19,800 --> 01:45:24,400 {\ an8} CLOSING THE APPLE STORE JULY 1968 2039 01:45:25,033 --> 01:45:27,467 The Beatles' brief excursion in the trade is over. 2040 01:45:27,633 --> 01:45:30,533 According to them, they are tired of this toy. 2041 01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:45,600 I'm all turned upside down. I don't know what I'm doing there. 2042 01:45:45,667 --> 01:45:48,333 I've been here for 7 hours and I got pushed around. 2043 01:45:48,500 --> 01:45:50,400 Upset by the rush? 2044 01:45:50,467 --> 01:45:52,100 I have never seen that. 2045 01:45:52,233 --> 01:45:53,467 I'm from Canada and ... 2046 01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:58,400 - What clothes are you looking for? - No idea. Everything. 2047 01:45:58,467 --> 01:46:00,333 - Anything and everything? - Stylish. 2048 01:46:00,767 --> 01:46:02,067 Why are you here? 2049 01:46:02,167 --> 01:46:03,767 No idea. Because it's free. 2050 01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:06,267 would you have come if it hadn't been free? 2051 01:46:06,333 --> 01:46:07,467 It's too expensive for me. 2052 01:46:07,800 --> 01:46:08,800 What are you looking for? 2053 01:46:09,500 --> 01:46:11,467 Anything and everything. I'm not fashion. 2054 01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:13,400 A dress or pants. 2055 01:46:13,533 --> 01:46:16,100 would you have come if it hadn't been free? 2056 01:46:16,167 --> 01:46:18,467 I've been here before. I bought items. 2057 01:46:18,533 --> 01:46:21,433 Not because it's free but because I like this store. 2058 01:46:21,500 --> 01:46:23,033 You had to ask yourself 2059 01:46:23,633 --> 01:46:26,433 How long was going to last the relationship between the group 2060 01:46:27,633 --> 01:46:29,267 and the manager? 2061 01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:33,467 Then we had to talk to Yoko Ono 2062 01:46:34,667 --> 01:46:38,800 with his growing influence, especially on John. 2063 01:46:39,533 --> 01:46:42,567 Then you watched the Beatles like a deal. 2064 01:46:43,233 --> 01:46:45,133 Then you think of Allen Klein. 2065 01:46:45,633 --> 01:46:47,800 Which sends you back to perpetual evolution 2066 01:46:48,367 --> 01:46:51,467 Of the history of this brilliant pop group. 2067 01:47:03,167 --> 01:47:04,133 For me ... 2068 01:47:06,067 --> 01:47:08,733 it's the ultimate album. 2069 01:47:09,633 --> 01:47:13,533 It made so much sense and it still is. 2070 01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:16,267 And it continued, once his time is over. 2071 01:47:16,533 --> 01:47:22,200 This is the number one rock album worldwide. 2072 01:47:22,733 --> 01:47:27,133 In my eyes, no Beatles album is bad. 2073 01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:28,200 They're all brilliant. 2074 01:47:28,767 --> 01:47:31,500 But this one is my favorite. 2075 01:47:31,567 --> 01:47:33,533 My favorite, because it's the one for which 2076 01:47:33,600 --> 01:47:35,300 I attended all the stages. 2077 01:47:36,067 --> 01:47:40,133 And he was so revolutionary in its concept and its coverage. 2078 01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:41,633 It's my favorite album. 2079 01:47:42,267 --> 01:47:45,500 It was huge, because they had the ability 2080 01:47:45,567 --> 01:47:47,233 to promote them in an extraordinary way. 2081 01:47:47,533 --> 01:47:49,767 And everyone was in their grip. 2082 01:47:50,000 --> 01:47:52,100 We were all captivated by the Beatles. 2083 01:47:52,167 --> 01:47:55,400 No one has ever criticized anything: their cover was great, 2084 01:47:55,467 --> 01:47:57,533 the songs and the presentation too. 2085 01:47:57,600 --> 01:48:00,600 For me, it's a miniature masterpiece. 2086 01:48:00,667 --> 01:48:04,767 It was a pop symphony with wonderful continuity. 2087 01:48:05,367 --> 01:48:10,733 The main stage, the title song at the beginning and at the end. 2088 01:48:11,100 --> 01:48:13,267 Everything went perfectly together. 2089 01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:15,033 It was an absolute joy. 2090 01:48:15,100 --> 01:48:18,000 There is something for every mood in the Beatles. 2091 01:48:18,067 --> 01:48:20,800 For posterity, this is the greatest album of all time. 2092 01:48:21,633 --> 01:48:22,600 It's impressive. 2093 01:48:22,667 --> 01:48:26,633 What other group who disappeared 50 years ago 2094 01:48:26,700 --> 01:48:30,400 continues to be listened to by so many generations? 2095 01:48:30,667 --> 01:48:35,733 Listen to the album in mono. Don't think about stereo. 2096 01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:38,300 The Beatles weren't there during assembly. 2097 01:48:38,733 --> 01:48:43,367 They were in India. Where the four of them used to sit, 2098 01:48:43,433 --> 01:48:46,700 and listened to everything and took decisions. It was mono. 2099 01:48:47,333 --> 01:48:50,533 This is the most important thing to say on Sgt. Pepper. 2100 01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:55,000 You have an album and there will be ... 2101 01:48:55,067 --> 01:48:56,233 It was years ago. 2102 01:48:57,333 --> 01:49:01,500 There were two or three songs throughout the album 2103 01:49:01,567 --> 01:49:03,333 that you really like 2104 01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:06,367 and the rest of the album ... it was on the album. 2105 01:49:06,533 --> 01:49:10,600 And you skipped them when it was still manual. 2106 01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:14,700 The Beatles albums were the reverse. 2107 01:49:14,767 --> 01:49:16,800 Perhaps a song you liked less 2108 01:49:17,033 --> 01:49:18,533 and you loved everyone else. 2109 01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:21,667 They seized the moment. They grabbed it. 2110 01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:24,433 They were perfect 2111 01:49:24,500 --> 01:49:27,333 and they shot everyone like a locomotive. 2112 01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:29,233 They pulled everyone with them. 2113 01:49:29,667 --> 01:49:31,300 And if they had put 2114 01:49:32,367 --> 01:49:37,633 "Penny Lane" and "Strawberry Fields" on Sgt. Pepper, it would have been different. 2115 01:49:37,700 --> 01:49:41,000 It would have been, literally, the best album of all time. 2116 01:49:41,167 --> 01:49:42,400 I contradict myself. 2117 01:49:42,567 --> 01:49:45,633 Often, I say to myself: "I can't believe it." 2118 01:49:45,700 --> 01:49:50,500 Then I say to myself, "Yes, because ... I knew it would be forever. " 2119 01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:52,200 This music is eternal. 2120 01:49:52,533 --> 01:49:56,700 It's a great window in an incredible era of change. 2121 01:49:56,767 --> 01:49:59,300 If you study the Beatles from any angle, 2122 01:49:59,367 --> 01:50:01,367 -white-> you study the 60s and you study 2123 01:50:02,033 --> 01:50:05,267 the history of the West and its evolution. 2124 01:50:05,333 --> 01:50:06,733 But it's endless. 2125 01:50:07,233 --> 01:50:10,733 Like people who study Shakespeare for years. 2126 01:50:11,733 --> 01:50:16,000 With the Beatles, there is always - -white- a feeling of well-being. - 2127 01:50:16,700 --> 01:50:20,367 I said to my friends, -If you are sad, listen to the Beatles. - 2128 01:50:21,367 --> 01:50:24,100 It helps you see the world as a better place. 2129 01:50:24,167 --> 01:50:26,300 They have beneficial properties. 2130 01:50:26,367 --> 01:50:30,033 Four boys, it worked. 2131 01:50:30,433 --> 01:50:31,700 -white- And the talent was there. 2132 01:50:33,000 --> 01:50:37,300 I think there will never be other Beatles. 2133 01:50:38,367 --> 01:50:40,767 It reminds of the Liverpool Echo 2134 01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:43,067 and an article by Brian Epstein. 2135 01:50:43,767 --> 01:50:47,300 He said, -I think the Beatles will be taller than Elvis. - 2136 01:50:48,167 --> 01:50:50,033 Everyone laughed saying: 2137 01:50:50,100 --> 01:50:54,033 -How a group from Liverpool coming out of the Cavern scene, 2138 01:50:54,233 --> 01:50:56,500 with all that leather and everything, could become 2139 01:50:56,800 --> 01:50:58,133 taller than Elvis? - 2140 01:50:58,200 --> 01:51:00,667 Elvis is on the other side, in America. 2141 01:51:00,733 --> 01:51:02,500 The biggest star in the world. 2142 01:51:03,167 --> 01:51:07,200 History has proven that he was right. The largest group of all time. 2143 01:51:07,267 --> 01:51:08,667 He had seen something in them. 2144 01:51:08,733 --> 01:51:11,267 The Beatles were embarrassed compared to that, 2145 01:51:11,333 --> 01:51:13,733 because there were other good bands in Liverpool. 2146 01:51:14,167 --> 01:51:16,500 -Bigger than Elvis? Let's see ...- 2147 01:51:17,300 --> 01:51:18,267 Brian was right. 2148 01:51:19,033 --> 01:51:22,567 Still today, charisma and excitement 2149 01:51:22,633 --> 01:51:24,700 caused by the name "Beatles" ... 2150 01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:29,167 Not just in Liverpool but worldwide: 2151 01:51:29,233 --> 01:51:33,100 Mexico, South America, Japan, Germany, everywhere. 2152 01:51:33,533 --> 01:51:36,133 A small island in Samoa ... 2153 01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:39,400 You mention the name "Beatles" and it's euphoria. 2154 01:51:39,467 --> 01:51:40,333 This is... 2155 01:51:41,133 --> 01:51:42,800 This is the legacy they left behind. 2156 01:51:43,033 --> 01:51:45,333 Will someone else overtake this heritage? 2157 01:51:45,400 --> 01:51:46,267 Only god knows. 2158 01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:48,433 It's a sacred heritage. 2159 01:51:48,733 --> 01:51:53,333 And it's wonderful to have been a small part of it. 2160 01:52:04,633 --> 01:52:06,533 538 DAYS AFTER RELEASE FROM SGT PEPPER, 2161 01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:08,667 THE BEATLES ARE GOING OUT A DOUBLE ALBUM CONTAINING 2162 01:52:08,733 --> 01:52:11,500 30 NEW SONGS IN AN ALL-WHITE POUCH ... 2163 01:52:11,567 --> 01:52:16,233 IT BECOME NUMBER ONE IN THE WHOLE WORLD... 2164 01:53:42,033 --> 01:53:43,567 Where's the dog's whistle? 183913

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