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Look at that scapula.
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That is a tooth that bit
all the way through.
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It would have to be
larger than a wolf.
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That's crazy.
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Holy crap. Look at this.
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That's a communication signal.
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I think its two things
talking to each other.
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Uh-oh.
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ROYSTON:
There's a signal interference
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to my controller.
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ERIK:
There's a gap in the data
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right where he called out
controller interference.
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That UAP is basically
in the triangle airspace.
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TRAVIS: Like it's turning
to make a final approach.
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Like it's coming in
for a landing.
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♪ ♪
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NARRATOR:
There is a ranch
in Northern Utah.
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It is considered the epicenter
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of the strangest and most
disturbing phenomena on Earth:
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animal mutilations,
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bizarre UFO sightings
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and unusual energies that have
proven harmful to humans.
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For 20 years,
the federal government
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tried to find answers
and failed.
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Now a new team
of dedicated scientists,
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researchers and experts
has taken over.
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They are determined to solve
the mystery and reveal...
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...The Secret
of Skinwalker Ranch.
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ROYSTON: Erik, you copy?
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Yeah, Jim. Go ahead.
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ROYSTON: Hey, we've been
out at the triangle
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and I've got to tell you,
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we just picked up
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some really strange lidar
up there
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that we're trying to figure out.
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What do you mean by strange?
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We got this weird anomaly
over the triangle.
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-What do you think
he's talking about?
-I don't know.
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Last week
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we recorded images of a UAP
that suddenly appeared
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right above the spot
that we call the triangle.
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So this morning,
Erik and I asked Jim Royston
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and Sam Deriso of OmniTeq
to scan the area
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with their drone-based
infrared lidar device to see
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if it could reveal what might
have caused that phenomenon.
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We flew the drone one time.
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Got some very interesting
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kind of crazy lidar data, uh,
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that does kind of confirm some
of the things we saw last year.
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Yeah, we have it
recorded and, uh,
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I'm gonna send you
the data right now.
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And then we'll come in
and take a look at it.
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Copy that.
Go ahead and shoot it over.
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I want to see it.
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TRAVIS:
Erik and I were really stunned
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when Jim said
that he thought his lidar data
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may have confirmed what we saw
at the triangle last year...
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Oh, we got a malfunction.
Everybody watch out.
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There's something in the sky
above the rocket right here.
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...because it was
in that same spot
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that we captured
high-speed camera images
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of some kind of a blob
that might have caused
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a rocket to explode
just 31 feet in the air.
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-What is that red circle?
-Whoa.
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TRAVIS:
And then later in the year,
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it's also
right where Jim obtained
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lidar images of a circular ring
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with the black void
in the center.
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So we couldn't wait
to find out what he captured
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this time and hoped it might
explain the crazy phenomena
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that keeps happening
at the triangle.
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ROYSTON:
Erik, did you get those files?
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There should've been
some movie files and some JPEGs.
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Yeah, I see-I see images
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and I see some, uh,
movie files here.
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Uh, do you want me to just
start with the first file?
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ROYSTON:
Yeah, let's start with that.
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Okay, I'm gonna put it
over here.
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-ROYSTON: This is my controller.
-TRAVIS: For the lidar?
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ROYSTON:
Yes. I called Sam over
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and had him go ahead
and pull out his cellphone,
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it's what he's
capturing this on.
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So if you play this...
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that's right in the center,
right above the triangle.
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You'll see,
as I turn this around,
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you'll see, one,
this weird symmetry.
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TRAVIS:
Looks like a doughnut
floating there as you turn it.
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Keep it going and let's
look at the different views
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that you give us.
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Okay, so what the hell
is generating these returns?
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ROYSTON:
And look how clean
the lines are around it.
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That's what
just kind of blew my mind.
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TRAVIS:
You know,
the interesting thing to me is
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it looks kind of funnel-shaped.
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ERIK:
Whoa.
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You know, the-the really
crazy piece to this is
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this looks like
it could be an extension
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of whatever that is
you saw last year.
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That bright circle,
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perfect circle you measured
last year on the ground.
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-It's in the same location.
-Yeah. Yeah.
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That is just tantalizing, guys.
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It looks like a dadgum hourglass
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or the, you know, the pictures
that you see on papers
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and graphics of traversable
Lorentzian wormholes.
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I mean, think about it.
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Wow.
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TRAVIS:
For much of the last century,
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scientists
such as Albert Einstein have
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theorized that wormholes--
which are passageways
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between two distant
points in space--
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could actually exist.
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And what Jim and Sam captured
on their lidar device
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appears to have
the very structure
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of a theoretical wormhole.
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Could that be what exists
above the triangle?
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And is that what's causing
all these phenomena to happen
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in this area?
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I want to catch
this thing again.
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-TRAVIS: Absolutely.
-I want us to do
whatever it takes
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to catch that thing again.
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Yup. This triangle's got us.
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You know what?
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If that's going on right now,
there might be,
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the anomaly might actually
be active right now.
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-ERIK: All right.
So let's head out.
-Yeah.
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TRAVIS:
Yeah, we need to load
all of that in the truck.
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After what Jim and Sam showed us
on their lidar scan,
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Erik and I wanted
to get the team
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out to the triangle immediately.
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All right. Here we go.
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We wanted to see if
the phenomenon would reappear
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so we could figure out
exactly what it was.
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-You got the plate?
-Yep.
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TRAVIS:
Because rockets have repeatedly
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helped us observe phenomenon
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on the ranch,
our plan was to launch
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several of them
equipped with GPS devices
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straight up above the triangle
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and then photograph each launch
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with high-speed cameras.
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The goal was to see
if we could cause
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anything to appear
that was potentially related
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to the ring-shaped lidar anomaly
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that Jim Royston had
just recorded.
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Rocket's hot!
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And while we finished
getting ready,
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Erik headed
to a brand-new observation post
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we call the black box.
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It's located
southeast of the triangle
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and it enables him to monitor
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the live GPS data
from each of the rockets
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as they pass through the area
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where we detected
the strange lidar ring.
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Wait, watch out,
that doesn't go all the way.
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TRAVIS:
And finally, to help us get
an even wider view
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of anything that might appear
during the rocket launches,
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ranch caretakers Tom Lewis
and Kandus Linde set up
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an additional high-speed camera
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several hundred yards
southeast of the triangle.
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Everyone be notified that we are
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about to start doing
some launches,
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uh, so be prepared
to catch it on the high-speed
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and, uh, to help spot
where it comes down.
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The wind's blowing, uh,
pretty hard right now,
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so we may need as many eyes
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as we can get.
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Copy that.
We'll be ready.
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Kaleb, you can do
a countdown for me.
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All right, you let me know
when you want me
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to go hot on the battery.
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I'm ready
whenever you are, man. Do it.
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-Okay, we're armed.
-(high-pitched beeping)
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Rocket's hot!
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KALEB:
We will be launching in
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five,
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four, three,
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two, one.
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-Oh, that's a good one.
-BRYANT: Yeah, that's perfect.
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TRAVIS:
What have we got? Oh, wow.
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Hey, Erik. You copy?
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Yeah. Go ahead, Travis.
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TRAVIS:
Yeah, Erik.
I'm looking at this trace.
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It got to about 2,000 feet high,
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but this is showing it at only
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about 150 feet or something.
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TRAVIS:
Holy crap. It sure does.
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That is really weird.
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Now, we all saw
that rocket shoot straight up
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a couple thousand feet
in the air.
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But the data from the GPS device
inside of it showed
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that at an altitude of 150 feet,
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it turned northeast toward
the face of the nearby Mesa,
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where last year we saw a UAP
exit from that very same spot.
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All right, well, we're getting
ready for the next launch,
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so just stand by.
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ERIK:
Perfect. Standing by
for launch.
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TRAVIS:
So, could all of this
be related to the thing
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that Jim Royston spotted today
on his lidar scans?
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Maybe launching
another rocket could get
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something to happen
that would help us find out.
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All right, everybody be advised
we're about to launch
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-another rocket.
-Okay.
-(high-pitched beeping)
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In five, four,
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three, two,
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one.
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ERIK:
So, Travis?
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Yeah. Go ahead, Erik.
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Um...
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the data looks really messed-up.
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TRAVIS:
Oh, wow.
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Dragon, come look at this.
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This is crazy.
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TRAVIS:
Dragon, come look at this.
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-BRYANT: Okay.
-TRAVIS: This is crazy.
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You saw that rocket, right?
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It went 2,000 feet high.
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Look at what the GPS
is telling us it did.
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The rocket on the launch
never got higher than the mesa
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and it looks like it turned
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and then it went
west of the triangle.
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What?
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I don't know what's really
going on above the triangle,
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but right where
we captured new lidar images
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of a ring-like anomaly
earlier today,
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the rockets
that we just launched
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are showing GPS data
that doesn't match at all
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with their actual flight paths.
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I have no idea
what to make of that.
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-TRAVIS: That makes no sense.
-BRYANT: Okay.
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-Well, we're gonna try again.
-TRAVIS: You're
dadgum right we are.
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Hey, everybody, be advised
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we're gonna launch
in less than one minute.
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So we wanted to keep launching
rockets up through the triangle
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to see if whatever was
causing this
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might actually be revealed.
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You good there?
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-I think so.
-All right.
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BRYANT: Okay, we got juice.
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Five, four,
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three, two, one.
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The GPS data from that rocket
is wrong, too.
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It says the rocket
didn't go high at all.
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Look, it just went to the west
of the triangle again.
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You... (sighs)
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TRAVIS:
Hey, Erik.
It looks like it turned
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and went west of the triangle.
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Yeah, I get it. Uh,
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Travis, this doesn't
make any sense.
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I don't know what
we're looking at here.
251
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At launch, the GPS data
looks nothing at all
252
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like the actual trajectories
of the rockets.
253
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I'm watching them
in the cameras.
254
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We really need to understand
what is happening
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in this airspace
over the triangle.
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-That's crazy, right there.
-Yeah.
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ERIK:
Hey Travis, I'm just gonna
shut down out here
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and, uh, take a look
at the data.
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Copy that.
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Hey, everybody.
That's the last launch.
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We're gonna start
breaking down.
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KANDUS:
Thank you, Travis.
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-Hello, hello.
-Hey, how you doing?
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-KANDUS: Good to see you.
-Glad to have you guys out.
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-Yeah, we're excited.
-Good to see you.
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ERIK: While the rest
of the team review the data
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from our experiment,
we're visiting
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with Ben Woodruff
at the Hutchings Museum
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in Lehi, Utah.
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I want to show you
some amazing things,
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kind of give you the results
of, uh, what we went over.
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Okay.
273
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On the starling, nothing has
eaten the inside of this bird.
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But the brain is gone.
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ERIK:
I'm anxious to find out
his findings
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on those specimens that
he collected from the ranch,
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including a pair of birds
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that didn't seem
to be decaying normally at all.
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I'm just gonna take it off.
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ERIK:
And a rib specimen
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from a cow that recently died,
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with a puncture wound
that appeared to have
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an entry point and
an explosive exit point.
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BEN:
The force that it takes
to go through that,
285
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I mean,
that would break my teeth.
286
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I've got a lot of samples
that we took on the ranch
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the last time I was there.
288
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The first thing--
you remember the starling?
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The bird, we found a dead bird.
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And you remember how
the brain was just gone?
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-Yes. Yes.
-BEN: Completely just missing.
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And you remember that
the muscle tissue was soft
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and squishy, okay?
I've got a sample.
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Now, first thing I want,
Erik, I want you to smell it.
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Smell if you smell anything.
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-Actually, I don't.
-Yeah, there's no smell.
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This should either be
rotten to the core
298
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or it should be mummified.
299
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It should be totally dried out,
and it's neither.
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So, I want you to look
on the screen over here
301
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and take a look
at this tissue sample.
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And what I want you to see
is that it is still
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keeping its color
as if it's fresh.
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-TOM: Weird.
-KANDUS: Yeah.
-BEN: See how flexible that is?
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ERIK:
Wow.
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BEN:
Now, that's impossible.
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Microbacteria
should be eating this,
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consuming it, uh,
and it-it should not be soft.
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And it should be discolored.
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What on the ranch
could be making bacteria
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-not consume something?
-Right.
312
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Usually, when a small animal
dies of natural causes like this
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what should happen
is the tendons tighten,
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the muscles dry out,
rigor mortis sets in.
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But in this case,
that has not been happening.
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But what's really strange
is after I got home,
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all the bird didn't decompose,
but the head started to.
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Whatever at the ranch
was preventing decomposition,
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started only on the head,
at my house.
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-Now, that's interesting.
-BEN: Yeah.
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It's like almost once
it was away from the ranch,
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suddenly the laws of nature
were applying correctly.
323
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Except for not
to the breast tissue.
324
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-Mm.
-BEN: It's really strange.
325
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BRYANT:
Skinwalker Ranch is
just that-- it's a ranch.
326
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There's times that
we find dead animals
327
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like you would anywhere else--
birds, small animals.
328
00:14:12,458 --> 00:14:14,667
But there's all sort
of strange things happening
329
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with the decay process
of animals here.
330
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And I wonder what in the world
happened on the property
331
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that can cause
this sort of anomaly.
332
00:14:22,750 --> 00:14:24,667
You guys brought
those two birds,
333
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the starling that we
just looked at.
334
00:14:26,375 --> 00:14:28,083
The grosbeak
was totally different.
335
00:14:28,292 --> 00:14:31,667
Part of it did decompose
but I want to show you.
336
00:14:31,792 --> 00:14:34,333
This is really, really strange.
337
00:14:34,542 --> 00:14:36,333
From the bones, it looks like
it was flying along
338
00:14:36,500 --> 00:14:38,375
and something went...
(mimics crunching)
339
00:14:38,542 --> 00:14:40,417
-and just broke
all the bones and left it.
-KANDUS: What?
340
00:14:41,667 --> 00:14:44,583
The bones are busted up
and it hasn't been eaten.
341
00:14:44,708 --> 00:14:46,167
Not by, like,
a predator or anything.
342
00:14:46,292 --> 00:14:49,875
So, I wanted to show you
how this works.
343
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We'll take a look at this
344
00:14:52,125 --> 00:14:54,375
and you see how
the legs are just broken?
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00:14:54,583 --> 00:14:57,000
-TOM: Oh, yeah.
-BRYANT: Contorted around.
-KANDUS: Whoa.
346
00:14:57,208 --> 00:14:59,917
BEN:
The wings, see that break point?
347
00:15:00,042 --> 00:15:03,125
So, this did not stay squishy
like the starling did.
348
00:15:03,292 --> 00:15:06,583
But the bones--
they're all basically snapped.
349
00:15:08,042 --> 00:15:09,583
ERIK:
So, throughout
the entire body of this bird,
350
00:15:09,708 --> 00:15:10,875
-the bones are broken?
-Mm-hmm.
351
00:15:11,042 --> 00:15:12,417
Just... (imitates crunch)
352
00:15:12,542 --> 00:15:14,083
It, again, the easiest
thing would be like
353
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if it went "crunch, crunch"
and then dropped.
354
00:15:16,375 --> 00:15:19,000
You don't just have
things break like that.
355
00:15:19,208 --> 00:15:22,000
ERIK:
Is there perhaps
some invisible force
356
00:15:22,167 --> 00:15:23,708
that can be exerted
on a small bird
357
00:15:23,875 --> 00:15:25,958
if it flies into
a particular region
358
00:15:26,083 --> 00:15:27,917
of the space on the ranch?
359
00:15:28,083 --> 00:15:30,583
Like, for example, the triangle,
360
00:15:30,792 --> 00:15:34,167
and that could cause
that kind of physical trauma
361
00:15:34,333 --> 00:15:37,542
to the extent that we're
breaking every bone in its body?
362
00:15:38,667 --> 00:15:41,375
Do we have some kind
of invisible, physical object
363
00:15:41,583 --> 00:15:44,208
in the airspace
causing this to happen?
364
00:15:46,667 --> 00:15:47,958
BEN:
So, that's the birds.
365
00:15:48,083 --> 00:15:51,083
What I also want to talk
to you about was the cow.
366
00:15:51,292 --> 00:15:53,458
-Okay.
-So, I wondered how did it die?
367
00:15:53,625 --> 00:15:57,625
We don't know, but the really
strange thing was the rib.
368
00:16:02,375 --> 00:16:05,167
On this rib,
there was this hole.
369
00:16:05,333 --> 00:16:09,292
So, you see this right here?
That was a tooth mark.
370
00:16:09,458 --> 00:16:12,167
-Mm-hmm.
-And on this side over here
371
00:16:12,292 --> 00:16:14,167
is where you see
where it shattered outward.
372
00:16:15,125 --> 00:16:17,000
ERIK:
Yes.
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BEN:
So, there's only
a few animals that would fit.
374
00:16:20,333 --> 00:16:22,000
So, I wanted to experiment
and see, okay,
375
00:16:22,208 --> 00:16:25,250
could it be a coyote or a dog
and something of that size?
376
00:16:25,458 --> 00:16:28,875
So, I took some teeth
from coyotes
377
00:16:29,042 --> 00:16:30,833
and from a black bear
378
00:16:31,042 --> 00:16:33,917
and I rigged them up
in a drill press.
379
00:16:34,083 --> 00:16:35,583
I didn't turn
the drill press on,
380
00:16:35,708 --> 00:16:38,917
I just anchored them in and then
pushed it down into this rib.
381
00:16:39,083 --> 00:16:41,375
So, I want to show you
what happened. (chuckles)
382
00:16:41,542 --> 00:16:42,583
These are the results.
383
00:16:45,250 --> 00:16:48,000
So, these are all coyote teeth,
384
00:16:48,167 --> 00:16:50,417
and the big one
is a black bear tooth.
385
00:16:52,333 --> 00:16:53,583
ERIK:
So, these look shattered.
386
00:16:53,792 --> 00:16:55,833
BEN:
They completely shattered
when I pushed down
387
00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,542
and I wasn't, like, going hard.
388
00:16:58,958 --> 00:17:00,167
So, whatever went through this
389
00:17:00,292 --> 00:17:02,292
was able to do it
without shattering.
390
00:17:03,792 --> 00:17:05,167
So, your options are--
391
00:17:05,375 --> 00:17:07,000
and we talked about it before--
392
00:17:07,125 --> 00:17:10,333
these shouldn't fit the bill,
but these are perfect.
393
00:17:10,542 --> 00:17:12,583
This is a dire wolf.
394
00:17:12,708 --> 00:17:14,417
Which is an extinct species.
395
00:17:15,625 --> 00:17:17,417
TOM:
That's crazy.
396
00:17:22,208 --> 00:17:24,375
BEN:
These shouldn't fit the bill,
397
00:17:24,542 --> 00:17:26,542
but these are perfect.
This is a dire wolf.
398
00:17:27,708 --> 00:17:29,500
Which is an extinct species.
399
00:17:29,667 --> 00:17:33,167
And as you can see, the size
fits into that hole perfectly.
400
00:17:33,292 --> 00:17:36,667
It's a pointed tooth, which is
gonna puncture through
401
00:17:36,875 --> 00:17:39,208
-But you see this ridge
right here?
-ERIK: Yes.
402
00:17:39,375 --> 00:17:41,333
-It's called a sagittal crest.
-ERIK: Yes.
403
00:17:41,500 --> 00:17:44,250
And this allows
much more musculature
404
00:17:44,417 --> 00:17:47,250
back here to bite
through that rib.
405
00:17:48,250 --> 00:17:51,833
You have to have that sagittal
crest to offer more power.
406
00:17:53,542 --> 00:17:55,167
ERIK:
I was not expecting to hear
407
00:17:55,375 --> 00:17:56,708
these words
come out of Ben's mouth,
408
00:17:56,875 --> 00:17:58,375
but what he told us
409
00:17:58,542 --> 00:18:01,583
is the best match,
structurally,
410
00:18:01,708 --> 00:18:04,833
to what we've brought
to his laboratory
411
00:18:05,042 --> 00:18:07,458
is in fact a dire wolf.
412
00:18:07,583 --> 00:18:11,125
I have absolutely no framework
in which to accommodate
413
00:18:11,292 --> 00:18:13,500
the presence
of a extinct species
414
00:18:13,667 --> 00:18:15,667
on Skinwalker Ranch.
415
00:18:15,833 --> 00:18:17,708
How is this even possible?
416
00:18:17,917 --> 00:18:20,708
BEN:
It sounds crazy,
but that is what
417
00:18:20,917 --> 00:18:22,292
fits perfectly is a dire wolf.
418
00:18:22,458 --> 00:18:24,500
Now, I'm not saying
that you have dire wolves
419
00:18:24,708 --> 00:18:26,125
running around your ranch.
420
00:18:26,208 --> 00:18:28,792
But I'm just saying,
biologically speaking,
421
00:18:28,958 --> 00:18:30,375
that's what fits the bill.
422
00:18:30,583 --> 00:18:33,083
Anything else would either
shatter their own teeth
423
00:18:33,208 --> 00:18:35,417
or shatter the rib
in the process.
424
00:18:35,583 --> 00:18:38,167
-Take a look at that.
-That's crazy.
425
00:18:40,833 --> 00:18:43,792
-Dire wolf.
-Mm-hmm.
426
00:18:47,167 --> 00:18:48,542
BRYANT: We've heard stories
427
00:18:48,708 --> 00:18:51,250
from when the Sherman family
owned the ranch.
428
00:18:53,583 --> 00:18:57,625
About Mr. Sherman
shooting a dire wolf...
429
00:18:59,042 --> 00:19:01,250
...and having it not die.
430
00:19:01,375 --> 00:19:04,083
And as they tracked it
across the field,
431
00:19:04,208 --> 00:19:06,042
the tracks led to the river
432
00:19:06,208 --> 00:19:08,375
and then never
came out of the river.
433
00:19:08,542 --> 00:19:11,833
Could there really still
be dire wolves on this property,
434
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,292
scavenging on this carcass?
435
00:19:15,542 --> 00:19:18,292
BEN:
This makes sense to this,
but I'd feel a lot better
436
00:19:18,500 --> 00:19:20,583
if you were handing me
a 10,000 year old
437
00:19:20,750 --> 00:19:22,500
rib of a buffalo
and saying "What did this?"
438
00:19:22,625 --> 00:19:25,042
and I'd be like, "Well, it's
pretty obvious what did it,"
439
00:19:25,208 --> 00:19:26,708
but you've got a modern cow
440
00:19:26,875 --> 00:19:29,333
and an animal
that's supposed to be extinct.
441
00:19:29,542 --> 00:19:31,375
The whole thing
doesn't make sense to me.
442
00:19:31,542 --> 00:19:33,333
ERIK:
I really respect
the fact that you're not
443
00:19:33,458 --> 00:19:35,542
jumping right into a hypothesis
444
00:19:35,708 --> 00:19:37,500
when we don't have
enough information here.
445
00:19:37,708 --> 00:19:40,542
Not at all. We just have bits
and pieces that tell a story.
446
00:19:40,708 --> 00:19:42,000
But we've got to have
all the pieces
447
00:19:42,167 --> 00:19:43,083
to understand what's going on.
448
00:19:43,208 --> 00:19:45,333
Can't thank you enough.
449
00:19:45,500 --> 00:19:48,083
-I feel like I'm learning
something every time we talk.
-BEN: Mm. Great.
450
00:19:48,208 --> 00:19:49,875
Well, thanks for coming out.
451
00:19:50,042 --> 00:19:51,375
-Thank you.
-Appreciate it very much.
452
00:19:51,583 --> 00:19:53,417
BEN:
You're very welcome. Thank you.
453
00:20:00,667 --> 00:20:02,458
BRYANT: What are we looking at
today, Erik?
454
00:20:03,500 --> 00:20:05,792
ERIK: The rocket launches
that we did out at the triangle.
455
00:20:05,958 --> 00:20:08,583
I got to tell you, the data
456
00:20:08,708 --> 00:20:10,792
just don't make
a lot of sense to me.
457
00:20:10,917 --> 00:20:14,250
After a couple days
of processing the GPS data
458
00:20:14,417 --> 00:20:16,125
and scouring the high-speed
camera images
459
00:20:16,250 --> 00:20:17,500
that were collected during
460
00:20:17,667 --> 00:20:19,500
our rocket experiment
at the triangle,
461
00:20:19,667 --> 00:20:22,583
we were all on edge to see
just what might be revealed
462
00:20:22,792 --> 00:20:25,042
about the ring-shaped
and blob anomalies
463
00:20:25,208 --> 00:20:26,833
that were documented there.
464
00:20:26,958 --> 00:20:31,208
Well, here's our familiar, uh,
3D framework, our-our model.
465
00:20:33,958 --> 00:20:36,042
And again, we're talking
about a rocket launch
466
00:20:36,208 --> 00:20:37,667
from here at the center
of the triangle
467
00:20:37,833 --> 00:20:40,208
going to, you know,
nearly 2,000 feet or so.
468
00:20:40,375 --> 00:20:41,833
-Yep, yep.
-And we all saw it.
469
00:20:41,958 --> 00:20:43,667
-Yes.
-Okay.
470
00:20:44,667 --> 00:20:48,708
ERIK: Why is it going
right towards the out point
471
00:20:48,875 --> 00:20:52,250
of that in and out event
that we've been studying?
472
00:20:52,375 --> 00:20:54,542
Look at that.
473
00:20:54,667 --> 00:20:56,500
TRAVIS:
And look-- it takes off,
goes toward
474
00:20:56,625 --> 00:20:59,167
the in and out spot,
turned a 90-degree turn
475
00:20:59,292 --> 00:21:01,542
and come back this way.
476
00:21:01,708 --> 00:21:03,958
I don't think any of those
data points even correlate
477
00:21:04,083 --> 00:21:06,125
with anywhere the rocket was.
478
00:21:06,292 --> 00:21:09,167
The rocket didn't shoot across
the top of the ground like that
479
00:21:09,333 --> 00:21:11,500
and then decide
to go up over there
480
00:21:11,708 --> 00:21:14,167
at the exit point
of the in and out.
481
00:21:14,375 --> 00:21:15,500
ERIK:
I see what you're talking about.
482
00:21:15,708 --> 00:21:17,583
TRAVIS:
And then-then turn around.
483
00:21:17,708 --> 00:21:21,292
But, really, the rocket went up
to 2,000 feet straight up.
484
00:21:21,500 --> 00:21:23,667
ERIK:
Why is it going this way?
485
00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:24,833
We're still seeing this-this
486
00:21:24,958 --> 00:21:26,917
pathological mismatch
487
00:21:27,083 --> 00:21:28,375
between what the rockets
actually did
488
00:21:28,542 --> 00:21:30,667
and what the GPS data
are telling us.
489
00:21:30,875 --> 00:21:33,208
THOMAS:
So what you're telling me is
the data that we're seeing here
490
00:21:33,375 --> 00:21:35,167
in no way represents
what you guys watched happen.
491
00:21:35,375 --> 00:21:37,667
-BRYANT: Not even remotely.
-It's just wrong.
492
00:21:37,792 --> 00:21:42,167
But how it's wrong might
have something to teach us.
493
00:21:42,333 --> 00:21:44,292
So, now I'm excited
to see the others.
494
00:21:44,458 --> 00:21:46,375
I'll show you the second one.
495
00:21:46,542 --> 00:21:48,500
THOMAS:
Oh, wow.
496
00:21:48,708 --> 00:21:51,083
-That's similar.
-TRAVIS: About the same thing.
497
00:21:52,708 --> 00:21:55,458
And look at...
all these rockets went 2,000,
498
00:21:55,667 --> 00:21:57,333
-1,500 feet at a minimum.
-KALEB: Yeah.
499
00:21:57,542 --> 00:21:58,875
TRAVIS:
There's no point
500
00:21:59,042 --> 00:22:00,833
in that whole thing
that's 1,500 feet.
501
00:22:00,917 --> 00:22:03,000
ERIK: Uh, there's
no mistaking the difference
502
00:22:03,167 --> 00:22:05,792
between this and 2,000 feet.
503
00:22:05,958 --> 00:22:07,875
THOMAS:
So is it this way
for all of them?
504
00:22:08,042 --> 00:22:09,750
-Yeah.
-THOMAS: Wow.
505
00:22:09,917 --> 00:22:12,667
-It's definitely interesting.
-Yep.
506
00:22:12,833 --> 00:22:15,500
ERIK:
So I might expect
this type of behavior
507
00:22:15,667 --> 00:22:18,292
from a rocket that has a problem
508
00:22:18,458 --> 00:22:20,833
with the fins, okay,
509
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,125
but, no, it did not do this.
510
00:22:23,292 --> 00:22:25,583
-Let me give you
the next launch.
-Yeah.
511
00:22:26,542 --> 00:22:29,042
TRAVIS: And again,
it jogs around some
512
00:22:29,208 --> 00:22:31,917
with randomness
and then it goes to the west
513
00:22:32,083 --> 00:22:34,042
of the triangle.
514
00:22:34,208 --> 00:22:36,167
What the crap?
515
00:22:36,333 --> 00:22:38,167
And now, here's the weird thing.
516
00:22:38,375 --> 00:22:41,292
Look at where
the data points stop.
517
00:22:41,417 --> 00:22:43,375
That's right where the Lunasonde
518
00:22:43,583 --> 00:22:46,292
and Juniper targets were
identified underground.
519
00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:47,917
BRYANT:
Really?
520
00:22:48,083 --> 00:22:51,167
That's what I was expecting
someone to say.
521
00:22:51,375 --> 00:22:53,333
In the past few years,
we've conducted
522
00:22:53,542 --> 00:22:56,500
two underground
scanning surveys of the ranch.
523
00:22:57,542 --> 00:23:00,667
One was a magnetometer
survey conducted in 2020
524
00:23:00,875 --> 00:23:03,750
by a company
named Juniper Unmanned.
525
00:23:03,917 --> 00:23:07,917
And the other, which was
just done last year in 2022,
526
00:23:08,083 --> 00:23:11,083
was a weather balloon based
radar scan
527
00:23:11,250 --> 00:23:12,917
conducted by Jeremiah Pate
528
00:23:13,083 --> 00:23:16,000
and representatives from
his company called Lunasonde.
529
00:23:17,042 --> 00:23:19,125
Incredibly,
both companies identified
530
00:23:19,292 --> 00:23:21,292
a possible underground tunnel
531
00:23:21,458 --> 00:23:23,333
between the triangle
and the mesa.
532
00:23:23,500 --> 00:23:26,667
And now the crazy GPS data
from yesterday
533
00:23:26,792 --> 00:23:29,708
shows that the rockets diverted
from their actual paths
534
00:23:29,875 --> 00:23:32,417
and landed
right in that same area.
535
00:23:32,583 --> 00:23:34,542
ERIK:
So I've taken the Lunasonde data
536
00:23:34,708 --> 00:23:37,458
that we got with Jeremiah Pate
and his team last year
537
00:23:37,625 --> 00:23:40,292
and I've added that
to the rocket launches
538
00:23:40,417 --> 00:23:41,958
that we did out at the triangle
together
539
00:23:42,125 --> 00:23:44,792
with the magnetic data
that we got back in 2020.
540
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,125
-TRAVIS: Okay.
-ERIK: There's the Juniper data.
541
00:23:48,250 --> 00:23:52,250
This is the Lunasonde data
and there's the rocket launches.
542
00:23:52,417 --> 00:23:54,667
THOMAS:
Oh, wow.
543
00:23:54,875 --> 00:23:57,333
BRYANT:
It's interesting to see
how they do line up though.
544
00:23:57,542 --> 00:23:59,417
It's especially
interesting to me
545
00:23:59,583 --> 00:24:02,875
that the location
where the Lunasonde data
546
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,833
lines up with the Juniper
magnetometry data
547
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,958
has been described to us
as a possible tunnel structure.
548
00:24:10,125 --> 00:24:12,417
We've long heard about
the tunnel system here
549
00:24:12,583 --> 00:24:15,667
on the ranch, which we've never
found real evidence for,
550
00:24:15,792 --> 00:24:18,667
and now hearing
those terms all used
551
00:24:18,792 --> 00:24:22,417
in one data set-- you know,
conductive, metallic, tunnels--
552
00:24:22,583 --> 00:24:24,833
I think that we need
to go investigate further.
553
00:24:25,042 --> 00:24:26,375
Yeah.
554
00:24:26,542 --> 00:24:27,917
I've heard all kinds
555
00:24:28,083 --> 00:24:30,125
of crazy stories
about this mesa.
556
00:24:30,292 --> 00:24:32,333
Spacecraft going in it,
557
00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:35,000
tunnels, caverns,
underground bases.
558
00:24:35,125 --> 00:24:39,208
It really makes me wonder what's
going on below the surface here.
559
00:24:39,375 --> 00:24:41,000
ERIK:
In that general vicinity,
560
00:24:41,167 --> 00:24:43,208
we've got something going on
under the ground.
561
00:24:43,375 --> 00:24:45,167
I... I-I agree and I think
562
00:24:45,333 --> 00:24:47,750
from the rocket launches
that we've seen,
563
00:24:47,875 --> 00:24:50,417
this whole thing makes no sense.
564
00:24:50,583 --> 00:24:52,292
Wow, all right.
565
00:24:52,500 --> 00:24:53,875
Well, this is amazing, Erik.
566
00:24:54,042 --> 00:24:55,667
ERIK:
I have something else to share.
567
00:24:55,833 --> 00:24:57,500
-There's more?
-ERIK: There's more.
568
00:24:57,708 --> 00:24:59,375
Wait till you see
what else I've got.
569
00:24:59,542 --> 00:25:01,667
You-you guys probably
remember we were, uh,
570
00:25:01,750 --> 00:25:04,417
-you know, taking high-speed.
-Okay.
571
00:25:04,583 --> 00:25:07,042
Well, let me bring up the, uh,
the camera footage.
572
00:25:08,250 --> 00:25:10,292
So, this is a single camera
573
00:25:10,458 --> 00:25:12,208
looking up this launch tower.
574
00:25:12,375 --> 00:25:14,000
You know, this is
the post process
575
00:25:14,208 --> 00:25:15,917
where we have that embossed
effect and so here you see
576
00:25:16,083 --> 00:25:18,667
just immediately
after the first rocket launch.
577
00:25:18,833 --> 00:25:21,000
You can see there is something
578
00:25:21,083 --> 00:25:23,167
that shows up that...
it's not a rocket.
579
00:25:24,042 --> 00:25:25,458
TRAVIS:
What is it that we're looking at
580
00:25:25,667 --> 00:25:27,583
that's kind of coming
out at that thing?
581
00:25:28,625 --> 00:25:30,458
I don't know...
I don't know what that is.
582
00:25:30,667 --> 00:25:32,667
I just don't even know...
I just can't decide if it's a--
583
00:25:32,833 --> 00:25:34,375
BRYANT:
That's not the rocket.
584
00:25:34,542 --> 00:25:35,917
TRAVIS:
What the crap?
585
00:25:42,833 --> 00:25:43,875
-BRYANT: That's not the rocket.
-TRAVIS: What the crap?
586
00:25:44,042 --> 00:25:45,333
What is that
we're looking at that's
587
00:25:45,458 --> 00:25:46,958
kind of coming out
of that thing?
588
00:25:47,167 --> 00:25:48,750
ERIK: Yeah, you're
talking about these lobes
589
00:25:48,917 --> 00:25:51,083
-on either side.
-Yeah, what the crap is that?
590
00:25:51,250 --> 00:25:53,333
ERIK:
So we've got this, I'll
call it a cylindrical center.
591
00:25:53,500 --> 00:25:55,000
-Mm-hmm.
-ERIK: It's a line.
592
00:25:55,208 --> 00:25:57,833
And then we have these
two lobes on either side.
593
00:25:58,917 --> 00:26:00,958
TRAVIS:
I don't know what that is.
594
00:26:01,125 --> 00:26:03,958
The UAP that Erik noticed
in the high-speed camera video
595
00:26:04,125 --> 00:26:06,083
from our rocket experiment
at the triangle
596
00:26:06,208 --> 00:26:08,333
two days ago was amazing.
597
00:26:08,542 --> 00:26:11,625
It didn't just appear like some
of the orbs that we've seen.
598
00:26:11,792 --> 00:26:14,167
But it had distinct features
599
00:26:14,292 --> 00:26:17,333
like it could actually be
some kind of an aircraft.
600
00:26:17,458 --> 00:26:18,833
Is it possible
it could be an insect
601
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,958
and those are the wings
moving back and...
602
00:26:21,125 --> 00:26:23,167
Always the first question
that comes to mind, you know?
603
00:26:23,375 --> 00:26:25,458
We-we usually see some kind
of undulating feature
604
00:26:25,625 --> 00:26:27,500
on either side of the body.
605
00:26:27,667 --> 00:26:29,167
I got to look closer.
I just can't tell.
606
00:26:29,375 --> 00:26:31,167
Would you like... Uh, you know
what, I can dive in, Travis.
607
00:26:31,333 --> 00:26:33,000
Oh, yeah. Do that.
608
00:26:33,167 --> 00:26:36,333
ERIK: I'll take us back out
to the original.
609
00:26:36,458 --> 00:26:39,583
So watch as this evolves.
610
00:26:40,583 --> 00:26:42,250
Okay, so I'm gonna
go forward one frame.
611
00:26:42,417 --> 00:26:44,167
Okay.
612
00:26:44,333 --> 00:26:46,792
-TRAVIS: Go forward again.
-ERIK: Mm-hmm.
613
00:26:48,250 --> 00:26:49,875
TRAVIS: Go one more.
614
00:26:51,083 --> 00:26:52,833
ERIK:
Whatever this
additional feature is
615
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,750
on the side of the main body
of this thing,
616
00:26:54,917 --> 00:26:56,833
it goes from, uh, what would be
617
00:26:56,958 --> 00:26:59,667
the aft portion of it
to the fore portion of it.
618
00:26:59,792 --> 00:27:02,000
Yeah, at least that's
what it looks like to me.
619
00:27:02,167 --> 00:27:05,167
TRAVIS:
It looks like wings.
I mean, not like bird wings
620
00:27:05,375 --> 00:27:08,417
or insect wings,
it looks like airplane wings.
621
00:27:08,583 --> 00:27:10,917
-Folding down.
-Mm-hmm, interesting.
622
00:27:11,125 --> 00:27:13,500
TRAVIS: One more time,
go one more frame.
623
00:27:13,625 --> 00:27:17,250
So look at the top.
It's shinier than...
624
00:27:17,375 --> 00:27:19,500
-ERIK: You're speaking
of this part here?
-Yeah, whatever that is.
625
00:27:19,708 --> 00:27:21,792
-ERIK: Okay.
-It seems to be shinier
626
00:27:21,958 --> 00:27:23,625
than the rest of it.
627
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:27,292
It has a very defined,
rigid edge.
628
00:27:28,500 --> 00:27:31,500
KALEB: That seems like
it stays very consistent.
629
00:27:31,708 --> 00:27:34,042
ERIK:
Yeah. So, it's got definition.
630
00:27:34,167 --> 00:27:35,875
And I don't know
631
00:27:36,042 --> 00:27:38,708
that I've ever seen anything
exactly like this before.
632
00:27:40,583 --> 00:27:42,750
Now wait till you see
what else I've got.
633
00:27:44,708 --> 00:27:47,500
This is in that same time frame,
634
00:27:47,625 --> 00:27:49,792
within a few minutes.
635
00:27:51,417 --> 00:27:53,250
You see it over here?
636
00:27:54,667 --> 00:27:57,083
TRAVIS: Look at that.
Oh, that's crazy, man.
637
00:27:58,542 --> 00:28:00,917
-ERIK: And then
we'll dive in here.
-TRAVIS: All right.
638
00:28:01,042 --> 00:28:03,333
Well, I'll tell you,
my brain's telling me
639
00:28:03,542 --> 00:28:05,167
it's the same object
640
00:28:05,375 --> 00:28:07,250
as the previous one
or the same type of object.
641
00:28:07,375 --> 00:28:08,417
ERIK:
Same class of object.
642
00:28:10,042 --> 00:28:11,500
Well, let me move
to the next one.
643
00:28:11,667 --> 00:28:14,333
So, here we have
a third instance of...
644
00:28:15,375 --> 00:28:17,583
BRYANT: It looks similar
to the same thing.
645
00:28:17,750 --> 00:28:19,875
TRAVIS:
I think it's the same thing.
I don't know what it is
646
00:28:20,042 --> 00:28:21,833
but it looks like
it's the same thing.
647
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:26,292
So we have three, uh, videos
of the same category of objects
648
00:28:26,417 --> 00:28:28,708
right after the first launch,
but I don't think there's
649
00:28:28,875 --> 00:28:30,875
any decision
we can make on it right now.
650
00:28:31,042 --> 00:28:32,875
-Yeah.
-ERIK: Obviously,
651
00:28:33,042 --> 00:28:35,250
the data is the other important
half of this exercise.
652
00:28:35,417 --> 00:28:37,750
And we got these really mangled
653
00:28:37,917 --> 00:28:40,750
GPS results and it correlates
with Lunasonde radar data
654
00:28:40,917 --> 00:28:42,917
which, according
to the-the Juniper data,
655
00:28:43,083 --> 00:28:45,167
were on top
of a magnetic anomaly.
656
00:28:46,958 --> 00:28:49,500
So, what do you guys think
about getting
657
00:28:49,667 --> 00:28:52,000
Jan Francke
to come back out, you know,
658
00:28:52,083 --> 00:28:53,333
with his
ground-penetrating radar?
659
00:28:53,542 --> 00:28:55,500
THOMAS:
Well, it's-it's
a starting point.
660
00:28:55,708 --> 00:28:56,917
Yeah.
661
00:28:57,042 --> 00:28:58,583
Could Erik be right
662
00:28:58,750 --> 00:29:00,792
that the answers
to all the UAPs
663
00:29:00,958 --> 00:29:02,708
and other phenomena
we've recorded between
664
00:29:02,875 --> 00:29:04,333
the triangle and the mesa
665
00:29:04,542 --> 00:29:07,375
and the east field
might actually be underground?
666
00:29:07,542 --> 00:29:10,792
Is there a connection
between the ring-like anomaly
667
00:29:10,875 --> 00:29:14,000
we've detected on lidar
and the possible tunnel
668
00:29:14,208 --> 00:29:16,833
that was identified
by Lunasonde last year?
669
00:29:17,042 --> 00:29:19,208
What I want to do this time
when he's with us
670
00:29:19,375 --> 00:29:22,167
is to actually do
a grid-like, you know, uh, uh,
671
00:29:22,375 --> 00:29:24,208
like a push broom pattern
on the ground
672
00:29:24,375 --> 00:29:26,000
with that instrument.
673
00:29:26,167 --> 00:29:28,375
And see if we don't, uh, get
some returns that correlate
674
00:29:28,542 --> 00:29:31,167
with what we see in the
Lunasonde and the Juniper data.
675
00:29:31,375 --> 00:29:33,667
-BRYANT: That's a great idea.
-I agree.
676
00:29:33,875 --> 00:29:35,875
ERIK:
Okay, well, you know,
this has been a great review.
677
00:29:36,042 --> 00:29:38,042
I appreciate you guys
sitting at the table with me.
678
00:29:38,208 --> 00:29:40,125
-THOMAS: Thanks, guys.
-ERIK: Thank you so much.
679
00:29:50,917 --> 00:29:52,958
TRAVIS: The next day,
while we were awaiting
680
00:29:53,125 --> 00:29:55,708
the arrival
of GPR expert Jan Francke...
681
00:29:55,875 --> 00:30:00,083
I say we, uh, figure out
what goes in here.
682
00:30:00,208 --> 00:30:02,583
...Erik wanted us
to follow up on the unbelievable
683
00:30:02,750 --> 00:30:04,792
findings of biologist
Ben Woodruff,
684
00:30:04,917 --> 00:30:07,542
who believes something
with the jaw structure
685
00:30:07,708 --> 00:30:11,708
of the extinct dire wolf killed
one of the cows on the ranch.
686
00:30:11,917 --> 00:30:14,500
-Okay. Just set it down
for a sec.
-All right.
687
00:30:14,667 --> 00:30:16,333
Where's that dry bag?
688
00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:19,750
So, we decided
to conduct an investigation
689
00:30:19,917 --> 00:30:21,958
in the river that runs
along the south field
690
00:30:22,083 --> 00:30:23,875
called Dry Gulch Creek.
691
00:30:24,042 --> 00:30:26,833
THOMAS:
Okay, so, we've got
the GPS tracker.
692
00:30:26,958 --> 00:30:28,208
We should probably
check in with Erik
693
00:30:28,417 --> 00:30:30,000
and see if he's
picking it up still.
694
00:30:30,167 --> 00:30:32,417
-Yeah. Let him know we're here.
-Yeah.
695
00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:36,083
Hey, Erik, do you have a copy?
696
00:30:37,042 --> 00:30:38,542
ERIK:
Yeah, Thomas, go ahead.
697
00:30:40,542 --> 00:30:42,208
We've arrived over here
on the western side
698
00:30:42,375 --> 00:30:44,125
of the ranch
and we're just preparing
699
00:30:44,292 --> 00:30:45,833
the equipment and getting
ready to go in the river.
700
00:30:46,042 --> 00:30:47,667
Can you, uh, see the tracker?
701
00:30:47,833 --> 00:30:50,083
Copy that, I'm watching.
702
00:30:50,208 --> 00:30:52,000
Okay, we're gonna
get in the river.
703
00:30:52,125 --> 00:30:53,333
Okay.
704
00:30:53,500 --> 00:30:54,375
Let's go.
705
00:30:54,542 --> 00:30:55,500
Let's do it.
706
00:30:56,875 --> 00:30:58,125
TRAVIS:
Back in the 1990s,
707
00:30:58,292 --> 00:31:00,958
the Sherman family
actually claimed
708
00:31:01,125 --> 00:31:03,042
that they had followed
a dire wolf out here
709
00:31:03,208 --> 00:31:05,250
after it attacked
one of their cattle,
710
00:31:05,458 --> 00:31:08,000
but then reported
that its tracks just
711
00:31:08,208 --> 00:31:09,958
disappeared right at this creek.
712
00:31:10,083 --> 00:31:11,500
Let's just put it right here.
713
00:31:11,708 --> 00:31:13,250
TRAVIS:
Yup.
714
00:31:13,458 --> 00:31:14,417
THOMAS:
All right.
715
00:31:14,583 --> 00:31:16,542
Okay. I think we're ready.
716
00:31:17,583 --> 00:31:19,250
TRAVIS:
Since the water is very shallow,
717
00:31:19,375 --> 00:31:22,667
we're going to wade
down the river with a kayak
718
00:31:22,833 --> 00:31:24,458
that we've equipped
with GPS devices
719
00:31:24,583 --> 00:31:27,375
as well as energy
and radiation detectors.
720
00:31:28,375 --> 00:31:30,625
Erik, this is Thomas.
You got a copy?
721
00:31:31,708 --> 00:31:33,583
Yeah, go ahead, Thomas.
722
00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:35,083
THOMAS:
Got all the equipment
723
00:31:35,208 --> 00:31:37,000
strapped down and ready to go,
724
00:31:37,125 --> 00:31:39,083
and we're entering
the river now.
725
00:31:39,208 --> 00:31:40,875
Well, that is
really interesting because
726
00:31:41,042 --> 00:31:43,000
that is not
what I'm looking at here
727
00:31:43,958 --> 00:31:45,250
According to the GPS,
728
00:31:45,417 --> 00:31:47,792
you're at 5,000 feet
underground.
729
00:31:47,958 --> 00:31:49,417
You mean to tell me right now
730
00:31:49,542 --> 00:31:52,583
we're about 5,000 feet
lower than what we are?
731
00:31:57,625 --> 00:31:58,625
I've never seen this before.
732
00:32:01,875 --> 00:32:03,083
-Did you guys hear that?
-BRYANT: Yeah.
733
00:32:03,250 --> 00:32:06,083
Right now, Erik's GPS tracker
734
00:32:06,250 --> 00:32:08,667
is telling us
we're 5,000 feet below
735
00:32:08,875 --> 00:32:09,625
-where we're at.
-TRAVIS: Really?
736
00:32:09,792 --> 00:32:10,833
THOMAS:
Yeah.
737
00:32:11,042 --> 00:32:12,708
TRAVIS:
That's crazy, man.
738
00:32:20,042 --> 00:32:22,292
THOMAS: Right now,
Erik's GPS tracker
739
00:32:22,458 --> 00:32:25,500
is telling us we're 5,000 feet
below where we're at.
740
00:32:25,708 --> 00:32:27,458
TRAVIS:
That's crazy, man.
741
00:32:28,542 --> 00:32:31,625
Well, let us know when
we portal back to reality.
742
00:32:33,875 --> 00:32:34,958
Copy that, Thomas.
743
00:32:36,125 --> 00:32:38,417
ERIK: I watched the real-time
GPS tracking data
744
00:32:38,542 --> 00:32:41,375
as reporting its position
going underground.
745
00:32:41,542 --> 00:32:43,458
This isn't the first
and won't be the last time
746
00:32:43,625 --> 00:32:45,583
we're asking ourselves
the question:
747
00:32:45,750 --> 00:32:48,750
why is it that something
that works perfectly fine
748
00:32:48,875 --> 00:32:51,083
in one scenario
749
00:32:51,250 --> 00:32:53,125
suddenly doesn't
work at all in another?
750
00:32:54,292 --> 00:32:56,333
KALEB: Could the water be
somehow affecting that?
751
00:32:56,458 --> 00:32:58,708
TRAVIS: Uh, it shouldn't,
it's above the water.
752
00:32:58,875 --> 00:33:00,875
THOMAS: That's interesting.
753
00:33:01,042 --> 00:33:02,125
TRAVIS: That's crazy, man.
754
00:33:02,208 --> 00:33:03,833
THOMAS: Right off the bat,
755
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,542
Erik tells us that
the GPS tracker
756
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:09,167
that we have has suddenly
gone 5,000 feet below us.
757
00:33:09,333 --> 00:33:11,167
I don't know what's going on,
758
00:33:11,333 --> 00:33:13,292
but we haven't even walked,
759
00:33:13,500 --> 00:33:15,125
you know,
ten feet down this river,
760
00:33:15,292 --> 00:33:17,333
we're already starting to see
interesting phenomena.
761
00:33:17,542 --> 00:33:19,167
TRAVIS:
Let's get this thing
in the water.
762
00:33:22,833 --> 00:33:24,167
BRYANT:
Okay, let's roll.
763
00:33:30,708 --> 00:33:32,417
TRAVIS:
Yep. Here we go.
764
00:33:39,250 --> 00:33:40,667
THOMAS:
We've never explored the river.
765
00:33:40,833 --> 00:33:42,167
Even Bigelow's people
766
00:33:42,333 --> 00:33:44,917
claim that they had
never been down around it.
767
00:33:45,042 --> 00:33:47,917
We're looking at
a large section of the ranch
768
00:33:48,083 --> 00:33:50,167
located on the south side
769
00:33:50,333 --> 00:33:53,833
where we've seen so much
strange activity in the past,
770
00:33:54,042 --> 00:33:55,000
and it makes me wonder,
you know,
771
00:33:55,208 --> 00:33:57,208
what is in store for us?
772
00:33:57,375 --> 00:33:59,625
TRAVIS:
Dude, it is thick
right here, though.
773
00:33:59,792 --> 00:34:02,458
If we lost a rocket in here,
you wouldn't get it.
774
00:34:10,583 --> 00:34:11,792
-BRYANT: Man, this is not
-TRAVIS: We've been walking
775
00:34:11,917 --> 00:34:12,875
-easy walking.
-for a while. Yeah.
776
00:34:13,042 --> 00:34:14,083
That's a lot of walking. It's...
777
00:34:14,250 --> 00:34:16,458
We haven't gone
very far linearly
778
00:34:16,625 --> 00:34:19,167
-because the river's
just winding, right?
-KALEB: Yep.
779
00:34:19,333 --> 00:34:21,500
Well, I can tell you,
780
00:34:21,667 --> 00:34:25,833
we haven't had anything
on the gamma rays at all.
781
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,250
Yeah, the TriField meter
782
00:34:27,417 --> 00:34:30,167
has been at zeros
the entire time, too.
783
00:34:30,250 --> 00:34:31,417
TRAVIS:
We almost never see
that with that thing.
784
00:34:31,583 --> 00:34:32,667
BRYANT:
Was this-was this
TriField meter's
785
00:34:32,875 --> 00:34:34,917
battery full when we started?
786
00:34:35,042 --> 00:34:36,667
-Yeah, yeah.
We checked it before we left.
-BRYANT: Because it's almost...
787
00:34:36,792 --> 00:34:38,333
-it's almost dead.
-Really?
788
00:34:38,542 --> 00:34:39,833
-BRYANT: Yeah.
-TRAVIS: Well,
that's interesting.
789
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,667
Maybe something's
drained the battery.
790
00:34:41,833 --> 00:34:44,292
We often see batteries on
our equipment suddenly drain
791
00:34:44,458 --> 00:34:47,083
just before and even during
792
00:34:47,208 --> 00:34:49,500
strange events
like UAP sightings
793
00:34:49,625 --> 00:34:51,333
and mysterious
signal detections.
794
00:34:51,542 --> 00:34:54,375
So, we were all wondering
if our TriField meter,
795
00:34:54,542 --> 00:34:58,125
which detects energy spikes,
was malfunctioning
796
00:34:58,250 --> 00:35:00,542
because something much crazier
was about to happen.
797
00:35:01,625 --> 00:35:02,667
Ugh. Let's go.
798
00:35:24,667 --> 00:35:26,625
THOMAS:
Look at this tree right here.
799
00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:28,667
Has that been...
800
00:35:28,792 --> 00:35:30,542
I mean, it almost looks...
801
00:35:30,708 --> 00:35:32,417
charred.
802
00:35:36,208 --> 00:35:38,125
TRAVIS:
Hey, Dragon, if you can,
803
00:35:38,250 --> 00:35:39,583
cut-cut us off a sample of that.
804
00:35:39,708 --> 00:35:41,167
Okay.
805
00:35:42,125 --> 00:35:44,500
THOMAS:
Yeah, why is this black
806
00:35:44,708 --> 00:35:47,167
-and this one is just...
-TRAVIS: Take a picture of that,
807
00:35:47,292 --> 00:35:48,458
too, if you don't mind.
808
00:35:51,208 --> 00:35:53,250
It's not far from
that burnt post either, right?
809
00:35:53,417 --> 00:35:55,417
THOMAS:
Where the thing
burned through it, right?
810
00:35:56,458 --> 00:35:58,583
TRAVIS:
The river is not
real far from that at all.
811
00:35:58,750 --> 00:36:00,500
BRYANT:
Last year,
812
00:36:00,667 --> 00:36:02,167
we found that
mysterious burned post
813
00:36:02,375 --> 00:36:04,875
in the south field.
814
00:36:06,250 --> 00:36:08,167
And it just so happens
that we saw
815
00:36:08,333 --> 00:36:10,292
this purple light
that seemed to fly off
816
00:36:10,458 --> 00:36:11,917
into that area...
817
00:36:12,958 --> 00:36:17,208
...a strange silver orb that
shows up on our game cameras.
818
00:36:18,875 --> 00:36:20,417
TRAVIS:
Yeah, that way we can
see the rings on it.
819
00:36:20,542 --> 00:36:21,958
BRYANT:
And now we're seeing
820
00:36:22,167 --> 00:36:23,833
some of the vegetation
in the river
821
00:36:24,042 --> 00:36:26,667
that looked as though there
was a strange burn property,
822
00:36:26,875 --> 00:36:29,250
it makes me wonder
if these instances--
823
00:36:29,417 --> 00:36:30,875
are they related somehow?
824
00:36:31,042 --> 00:36:32,500
Oh, look. You got a good piece.
825
00:36:32,708 --> 00:36:34,000
Fantastic.
826
00:36:34,167 --> 00:36:36,500
THOMAS:
We got some great samples.
827
00:36:50,792 --> 00:36:53,167
TRAVIS:
Now, is this natural
or is this a beaver dam?
828
00:36:53,375 --> 00:36:54,917
-THOMAS: Beaver.
-KALEB: It's a beaver dam.
829
00:37:05,542 --> 00:37:06,917
-BRYANT: Whoa, what is that?
-TRAVIS: What is it?
830
00:37:08,167 --> 00:37:09,917
BRYANT:
Right there.
831
00:37:13,042 --> 00:37:15,000
THOMAS:
What is that?
832
00:37:15,167 --> 00:37:16,750
KALEB:
Hard to tell.
833
00:37:16,875 --> 00:37:18,833
TRAVIS:
We're about to find out
what it is.
834
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:20,917
BRYANT:
Ew. God.
835
00:37:24,792 --> 00:37:26,250
THOMAS: What is that?
836
00:37:26,417 --> 00:37:27,167
TRAVIS: We're about to
find out what it is.
837
00:37:27,333 --> 00:37:28,833
THOMAS: Look at those fangs.
838
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,542
BRYANT: Ew. God.
839
00:37:30,708 --> 00:37:32,625
TRAVIS:
We've got
a dead animal right here.
840
00:37:32,750 --> 00:37:34,292
BRYANT:
I wonder what that is?
841
00:37:36,250 --> 00:37:37,833
Just a few hundred feet
down the river
842
00:37:37,958 --> 00:37:40,458
from where I found this
burnt tree, we came across
843
00:37:40,625 --> 00:37:43,833
some sort of animal here
in late stages of decay.
844
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,917
As soon as we lifted
its head out of the water,
845
00:37:46,083 --> 00:37:48,292
we saw massive canine teeth,
846
00:37:48,417 --> 00:37:50,875
so we knew it was
a canine of some type,
847
00:37:51,083 --> 00:37:52,292
but these teeth are pretty big.
848
00:37:52,417 --> 00:37:54,167
It doesn't look like
a coyote or a dog to me,
849
00:37:54,333 --> 00:37:56,333
so what is dead here
in the water?
850
00:37:56,500 --> 00:37:57,958
TRAVIS:
Think you can hold it up?
851
00:37:59,208 --> 00:38:00,833
All right, let's
get it in the bag.
852
00:38:00,958 --> 00:38:03,583
BRYANT: We're still gonna try
and get a sample of it
853
00:38:03,750 --> 00:38:05,208
and give it to Ben the biologist
854
00:38:05,375 --> 00:38:07,042
that's been working
with us on the ranch.
855
00:38:10,125 --> 00:38:11,958
(grunts)
856
00:38:12,083 --> 00:38:14,458
-THOMAS: Ooh, I got
a whiff of that.
-TRAVIS: Yeah, it stinks.
857
00:38:16,208 --> 00:38:17,458
BRYANT:
Good God.
858
00:38:17,625 --> 00:38:19,125
TRAVIS:
That decayed carcass
859
00:38:19,292 --> 00:38:20,292
that we found in
the south field creek
860
00:38:20,458 --> 00:38:21,708
was really disgusting,
861
00:38:21,875 --> 00:38:22,917
but it was also
862
00:38:23,083 --> 00:38:24,250
one of the strangest things
863
00:38:24,417 --> 00:38:26,042
we'd ever seen
on Skinwalker Ranch.
864
00:38:26,250 --> 00:38:28,458
The body wasn't very big,
865
00:38:28,625 --> 00:38:31,542
but the teeth were huge.
866
00:38:34,417 --> 00:38:36,792
TRAVIS:
Whoa, those
teeth are sharp, dude.
867
00:38:39,583 --> 00:38:41,500
Gah! I touched it.
868
00:38:41,708 --> 00:38:43,208
I didn't know
what to make of it,
869
00:38:43,375 --> 00:38:46,292
but no matter how bad
that thing stunk,
870
00:38:46,458 --> 00:38:47,833
we had to get
a piece of that jaw
871
00:38:48,042 --> 00:38:50,333
so Ben Woodruff
could analyze it to figure out
872
00:38:50,458 --> 00:38:52,875
what kind of animal
it actually was.
873
00:38:54,333 --> 00:38:55,833
THOMAS:
Oh, man that stinks.
874
00:38:56,042 --> 00:38:57,125
TRAVIS:
Well, let's load up
and get out of here.
875
00:38:57,250 --> 00:38:59,000
Yep, sun's getting lower.
876
00:38:59,167 --> 00:39:01,417
-Get away from that smell, too.
-TRAVIS: Yeah, right?
877
00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:06,333
THOMAS:
We're seeing interesting
things with our equipment
878
00:39:06,458 --> 00:39:07,667
along with this burned tree
879
00:39:07,833 --> 00:39:09,458
and a dead animal in the water,
880
00:39:09,542 --> 00:39:11,333
so it makes me wonder
881
00:39:11,500 --> 00:39:13,167
is this spot dangerous?
882
00:39:13,333 --> 00:39:16,208
I don't know. It's hard to say,
883
00:39:16,375 --> 00:39:18,208
but these are definitely
all things
884
00:39:18,375 --> 00:39:20,000
that warrant more investigation.
885
00:39:20,167 --> 00:39:21,250
THOMAS:
Hey, Erik,
886
00:39:21,375 --> 00:39:23,125
do you copy?
887
00:39:24,333 --> 00:39:25,917
ERIK: Yeah, Thomas. Go ahead.
888
00:39:26,917 --> 00:39:29,458
THOMAS: Uh, we've reached our
destination point on the river.
889
00:39:29,667 --> 00:39:33,875
Just came upon a really
large, dead animal.
890
00:39:34,042 --> 00:39:37,458
We've got some, uh, maggots
along with its jawbone.
891
00:39:37,625 --> 00:39:39,833
So, uh, we've got quite
a few samples to bring in
892
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,750
and we're excited to
come back to command center
893
00:39:41,917 --> 00:39:44,167
-and compare notes.
-ERIK: That's fantastic.
894
00:39:44,375 --> 00:39:46,667
I'd call that a success, guys.
Way to go.
895
00:39:46,875 --> 00:39:49,000
I'll see you when you get back.
896
00:39:49,208 --> 00:39:51,000
-THOMAS: All right.
-TRAVIS: Well, I think it was,
897
00:39:51,208 --> 00:39:52,750
uh, very informative.
898
00:39:52,917 --> 00:39:56,458
We found a zone
on this river where there was
899
00:39:56,625 --> 00:39:59,458
absolutely no
electromagnetic information.
900
00:39:59,625 --> 00:40:03,042
And right after that,
we found a dead animal.
901
00:40:03,208 --> 00:40:05,292
Yeah, so there's a dead zone
back there in the river.
902
00:40:05,458 --> 00:40:07,042
So, that's something
we need to really
903
00:40:07,208 --> 00:40:08,792
think about and look into.
904
00:40:08,958 --> 00:40:10,125
BRYANT:
All right, let's get
the heck out of here.
905
00:40:10,292 --> 00:40:11,417
TRAVIS:
Yeah.
906
00:40:16,958 --> 00:40:18,708
ERIK:
I don't think
any of us is content to
907
00:40:18,875 --> 00:40:21,000
marvel at anomalous results.
908
00:40:21,208 --> 00:40:24,583
I know that we are all
very hungry for answers.
909
00:40:24,708 --> 00:40:27,667
Could this creek
be the point of origin
910
00:40:27,792 --> 00:40:30,500
of some phenomenon
yet to be explained
911
00:40:30,708 --> 00:40:33,250
that may have something to do
912
00:40:33,417 --> 00:40:34,708
with the carcasses
of dead animals
913
00:40:34,875 --> 00:40:36,167
that we're seeing on the ranch?
914
00:40:36,375 --> 00:40:37,667
I'm especially interested
915
00:40:37,833 --> 00:40:39,583
in getting the answer
to that question.
916
00:40:40,667 --> 00:40:42,375
BRANDON:
The disturbing reality
917
00:40:42,542 --> 00:40:45,417
surrounding animal deaths
at Skinwalker Ranch
918
00:40:45,542 --> 00:40:48,500
is something that
has left us baffled.
919
00:40:48,667 --> 00:40:50,583
Is there something unique about
920
00:40:50,750 --> 00:40:52,958
the nature of these areas,
921
00:40:53,083 --> 00:40:57,000
these previously unexplored
regions of the ranch?
922
00:40:58,208 --> 00:41:00,083
As the investigation continues,
923
00:41:00,250 --> 00:41:02,125
we hope to get more answers.
924
00:41:03,417 --> 00:41:06,125
TRAVIS: There are so many
crazy stories from the past
925
00:41:06,292 --> 00:41:08,000
about things like portals,
926
00:41:08,208 --> 00:41:10,667
underground tunnels
and even extinct animals
927
00:41:10,833 --> 00:41:13,375
supposedly existing
on Skinwalker Ranch.
928
00:41:13,542 --> 00:41:17,042
And just this week,
we found evidence that suggests
929
00:41:17,208 --> 00:41:20,250
these things could be based
in reality and are true.
930
00:41:20,417 --> 00:41:22,083
I don't know
what to make of that,
931
00:41:22,208 --> 00:41:24,625
but I'm more determined than
ever to keep working with
932
00:41:24,750 --> 00:41:27,583
this team to figure it out.
933
00:41:30,417 --> 00:41:31,917
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