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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:12,000 [sparse piano melody and walking bass notes] 2 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,520 [narrator] It was an idyllic life: 3 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,320 wealth beyond anyone’s wildest dreams, 4 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,040 homes across the world, 5 00:00:25,240 --> 00:00:27,360 a chateau in the South of France. 6 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,120 Countess Alexandra Tolstoy, 7 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,800 an aristocratic English rose 8 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,360 living a fairy-tale. 9 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,000 The man of her dreams: 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:41,320 billionaire Sergei Pugachev, 11 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:43,480 an oligarch, 12 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,440 one of Russia’s richest men. 13 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,200 Yet it’s all about to come crashing down. 14 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,360 Once a friend and ally of Vladimir Putin, 15 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,760 Sergei has fallen foul of the Russian president. 16 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,360 [Sergei] A lot of people call me: 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,880 ‘They want to kill you. Be careful.’ 18 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:03,520 [narrator] He’s on the Kremlin’s hit list, 19 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,600 and enemies of the state can find it hard to hide. 20 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:09,280 [explosion booms] 21 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,120 [narrator] So what happens when Russia turns on you 22 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:15,320 in this dangerous and murderous world? 23 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:17,240 [Ben Brown] Some breaking news, 24 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:20,039 and a murder investigation has been launched 25 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:21,920 into the death of another Russian 26 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,280 on British soil. 27 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,440 [narrator] What happens to the fairy-tale 28 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:26,800 [Sergei] 29 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:29,800 [narrator] ...and to the love? 30 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:31,760 [presenter] 31 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:34,800 [Alexandra] It’s a nightmare. 32 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,200 [crying] Sorry. 33 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,520 [sparse string and piano music] 34 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:57,400 [upbeat strummed music] 35 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,680 [narrator] This story begins five years ago. 36 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,400 [Alexandra] Darling, you want to have a scone? 37 00:02:09,479 --> 00:02:10,479 [Ivan] Yes. 38 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:12,720 [Alexandra] Do you want strawberry jam 39 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:14,120 or blackberry jam or raspberry? 40 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,320 [Ivan] Um, strawberry. 41 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:18,640 [narrator] It was supposed to be 42 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:20,480 the tale of the Russian oligarch... 43 00:02:20,920 --> 00:02:21,960 [Alexandra] Do you want to go and sit down? 44 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,200 [narrator] ...Sergei Pugachev, 45 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,200 willing to take a stand against Vladimir Putin, 46 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:30,000 and his partner, 47 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,760 the mother of their three children, 48 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:33,760 Alexandra Tolstoy. 49 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:38,640 But the story that unfolded was one 50 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,400 that neither of them could have predicted. 51 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:42,600 [children's laughter, footsteps, and chatter] 52 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,960 [narrator] Back then, Alexandra and her three children 53 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,160 were living a life of enviable luxury. 54 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,160 [footsteps clomping] Catch me. 55 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:52,640 Now you have to catch me. 56 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:53,840 [Alexandra] We have a PA, 57 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,520 two drivers, two housekeepers. 58 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:58,880 We have our lovely English nanny, 59 00:02:58,960 --> 00:03:00,520 who's a very old-fashioned, kind of... 60 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,360 Downton Abbey-type English nanny. 61 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:04,840 Then we have our Russian nanny. 62 00:03:04,920 --> 00:03:06,440 And then every afternoon, 63 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:08,280 we have to have a French teacher who comes for an hour 64 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:10,240 to do my son’s homework because it’s in French [laughs] 65 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:11,680 and I don’t really speak French. 66 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:13,720 [woman speaking in foreign language] 67 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:15,600 [Alexandra] So we moved here. 68 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,480 Just had our first baby, 69 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,160 but then we bought the house next door. 70 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,040 I don’t know why I thought we didn’t really need it. 71 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:22,400 But actually, 72 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:23,920 now I can’t really imagine 73 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:25,360 how we could have all squeezed in. 74 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:28,680 [narrator] The family has a globe-trotting lifestyle, 75 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,720 but it’s the Chelsea House they call home. 76 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,680 [Alexandra] This is meant to be the more formal part. 77 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:37,320 It’s quite unusual because these were all 78 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:38,640 artists' studios, 79 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:40,160 so up here is our bedroom. 80 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:41,800 I absolutely love it because it’s got 81 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:42,880 these huge windows. 82 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,079 It’s very unusual to have this sort of lateral space in London. 83 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,480 Bryan Ferry is our neighbour, just up the road. 84 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,880 We have this, and then other one is 85 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:51,960 the children’s part, really. 86 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:53,760 Apparently, Helena Bonham Carter lives 87 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:54,840 like that, where they have-- 88 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:56,840 she has one house, 89 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:57,960 and her--her husband has 90 00:03:58,040 --> 00:03:59,440 another house, next to each other. 91 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:00,520 We have an adult house, 92 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:02,080 and they have a children’s house. [laughs] 93 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:04,400 It’s really kind of a fun way to live. 94 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,360 Oh, I'll show you my handbag cupboard. 95 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,480 So my weakness is Chanel. [laughs lightly] 96 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,040 [interviewer] It’s filed. 97 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:17,519 [Alexandra] Yeah, it’s filed! 98 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:19,000 That’s my amazing housekeeper. 99 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:21,640 I do love clothes, I have to say. 100 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:24,000 They're Manolo Blahnik-- 101 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:25,520 [interviewer] Oh, yeah! 102 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:27,280 [Alexandra] ...who, luckily, is on the next-door street. 103 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,400 Sergei will freak out, but, I mean, there are 104 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,000 [laughs] thousands and thousands of pounds' worth in there. 105 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,360 Just hope my daughter grows up with the same size feet as me. 106 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,800 [Alexandra] When I met Sergei, it was electric, 107 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,120 absolutely electric and amazing, 108 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:45,720 and I fell so in love with him 109 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:47,720 and it was so romantic. 110 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,520 This very, very powerful person, 111 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,000 with me, he wanted to be 112 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:52,200 a completely different person. 113 00:04:52,840 --> 00:04:54,720 [Sergei speaking Russian in video] 114 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,960 [Alexandra] I’d never felt such a connection 115 00:04:57,040 --> 00:04:58,200 to someone, ever. 116 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:00,840 [Sergei speaking Russian in video] 117 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:02,520 [Alexandra] It was such a love affair. 118 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,080 [narrator] When Alexandra met Sergei, 119 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,000 he was separated from his first wife. 120 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,600 Now his divorce has finally come through. 121 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:13,960 [Alexandra] So eight years later 122 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,760 and three children, we are very keen 123 00:05:16,840 --> 00:05:18,000 that we should get married. 124 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:19,720 I’d love to make it as big a deal as possible, 125 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,080 and Sergei would like to make it as small a deal [laughs] 126 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:22,520 as possible, probably. 127 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:23,640 But he does though, he says that, 128 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,120 and then when we actually have the party, he loves it. 129 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:27,440 [Alexandra] I’ve had a few, and he loves them. 130 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,600 So hopefully, we will get married in the South of France. 131 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,280 It’s so beautiful and... 132 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:34,360 amazing weather. 133 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:35,920 Yeah, so I think in June would be great. 134 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,280 [moderate plucked and accordion music] 135 00:05:43,840 --> 00:05:45,760 [narrator] But the man she plans to marry 136 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:47,880 isn’t just any old billionaire. 137 00:05:48,840 --> 00:05:49,840 [Sergei in Russian] 138 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,280 [narrator] Sergei Pugachev is reputed to be 139 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,680 number three on the Kremlin’s hit list 140 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,520 and is living a secret life in France. 141 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:04,960 Only a handful of his closest aides 142 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,400 know his movements at any one time. 143 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,080 [Sergei in Russian] 144 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:43,000 [muted trumpet melody] 145 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:44,320 [military boots marching] 146 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,159 [narrator] Sergei Pugachev had amassed his vast fortune 147 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:53,880 in post-communist Russia. 148 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,120 He had a coalmine, 149 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:57,760 shipyards, 150 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,400 designer brands. 151 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,040 He even had his own bank. 152 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,200 [Luke] If you have a bank in Russia in the 1990s, 153 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:06,320 you can take advantage 154 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,960 of all the capital pouring in to the new Russia. 155 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,880 And then, uh, life is very shiny indeed. 156 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,840 [narrator] He was the archetypal oligarch. 157 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,920 [Oliver] Pugachev wasn’t quite in the top 600 richest men 158 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:19,960 in the world, right? But he was just outside. 159 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:21,760 That’s a serious achievement. 160 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:23,560 You know, if you think about 161 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:24,640 how many people there are in the world, 162 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:26,480 he was in the top thousand. 163 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,720 Yeah, that’s--that's going some 164 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:30,160 for a boy from the Soviet Union. 165 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:32,880 [upbeat men's chorus singing in Russian] 166 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,280 [narrator] Sergei’s huge wealth has bought him a chateau 167 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:46,520 in the French Riviera 168 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,000 and a lifestyle he could only have dreamed of 169 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,000 as the child of a military family 170 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,080 from St. Petersburg. 171 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,280 [Sergei] This is cool. 172 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:56,680 It’s me. 173 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,480 It’s me. It’s my first Rolls Royce. 174 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:00,560 My first. [laughs] 175 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:06,560 [Sergei] I opened my first bank in Soviet Union in 1991. 176 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,680 I gave a lot of loans to government. 177 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:12,440 It was a lot of money. 178 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:14,840 It was millions, and people say, 179 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:16,960 ‘Okay, it was like Putin’s banker.’ 180 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,920 [narrator] When Sergei was making his first billions, 181 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,280 the man at the top was Boris Yeltsin. 182 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,520 When it became clear that he was on his way out, 183 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,360 Sergei and the other oligarchs wanted 184 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,160 to protect their fortunes. 185 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,400 [Luke] The oligarchs wanted to keep all of their assets, 186 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:34,559 and they wanted someone they thought 187 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:35,880 they could kind of puppet. 188 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,600 They eventually lighted on a rather charmless, 189 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,120 small, 190 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:44,560 not-very-well-known, 191 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:46,040 pale-faced 192 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,520 spy, or former spy, 193 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,480 called Vladimir Vladimirovitch Putin, 194 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,680 who went from being a kind of functionary 195 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:56,000 in the property department to being the head 196 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,240 or the successor to the KGB, the FSB, 197 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,480 to Prime Minister to President 198 00:09:00,560 --> 00:09:02,000 in the scope of two years. 199 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:03,720 [Putin in Russian] 200 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,680 [Luke] It was a meteoric ascent, 201 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:12,640 and Sergei Pugachev was someone 202 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,120 who helped push Putin up the stairs. 203 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,120 [Sergei] 204 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:28,440 [interviewer] You went on holiday together? 205 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:31,560 [Sergei] 206 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:39,760 [narrator] Sergei cemented his power 207 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:41,680 by becoming a senator in the upper house 208 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:42,760 of the Russian parliament. 209 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:44,400 Before long, he’d become 210 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:46,920 one of Putin’s most trusted advisers. 211 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,000 But then, 212 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:52,480 he fell in love. 213 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:54,880 [Sergei] And maybe I will show you 214 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,280 something interesting. 215 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,080 [Sergei] I met her in 2008. 216 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:03,280 [interviewer] So that’s the first photo 217 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:04,360 -of you two together? -[Sergei] Yes. 218 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,000 [Sergei] So happy. 219 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:09,440 [Alexandra] And when I first went to see Sergei 220 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:10,560 in Moscow, 221 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:11,800 he was... 222 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:13,160 one of the most important 223 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:14,480 and influential people 224 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,000 in the whole of Russia. 225 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:17,840 [saxophone waltz melody[ 226 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,640 [Alexandra] It was, you know, this James Bond kind of office, 227 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,480 where you go through, uh, like, glass doors, 228 00:10:25,560 --> 00:10:27,920 they snap behind you, and then you go through the second ones, 229 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,120 and then, like, guards with Kalashnikovs. 230 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,240 You are escorted to, like, 231 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,240 this special metal-reinforced lift, 232 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,000 and you go up, and it's a secret zone, 233 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:36,200 where no one else can enter, 234 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:37,480 and this was his daily life. 235 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:39,720 [narrator] Alexandra had been hired 236 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:42,160 to help Sergei improve his English. 237 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,800 [Sergei] She helped me to... 238 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,400 to speak in English, just, like, practice, 239 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:50,040 not like... 240 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:51,400 like teacher. 241 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:55,520 She came to my office. 242 00:10:58,320 --> 00:10:59,320 You know... 243 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,720 [narrator] But the appearance of Countess Alexandra Tolstoy 244 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,880 on the scene of Moscow’s ruling elite 245 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:10,800 did not impress everyone. 246 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,000 [Alexandra] There’s a law in Russia 247 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,240 that says a senator cannot marry a foreigner. 248 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:17,520 Sergei says that many of these problems 249 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,160 that have arisen with the Russian government 250 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,240 and Putin 251 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,360 are because he’s with me. 252 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,240 And Putin himself was-- 253 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:26,960 has said to Sergei at some point, 254 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:29,760 ‘You are a traitor. Why are you with this English person?’ 255 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:32,080 [Sergei] 256 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:55,520 [Sergei] 257 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:03,920 [narrator] When Sergei met Alexandra, 258 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:05,360 life was good. 259 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:07,320 Within a year of meeting, 260 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:08,400 they had a baby, 261 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,160 and before long, another on the way 262 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,680 and were living a life of luxury 263 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:13,760 in Moscow, 264 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:15,400 London, and Paris. 265 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:19,880 [Alexandra] So from 2008 or 9, 266 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:20,960 it was... 267 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,240 incredible. I used to go and stay 268 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:24,320 in the George V with my-- 269 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,040 you know, my lovely little baby. 270 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,160 He’d give me his credit card. 271 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:28,520 I’d go down the Avenue de Montaigne. 272 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:30,040 I’d go shopping. 273 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:31,680 [Alexandra] I could do what I liked. 274 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:33,720 I had a private jet. 275 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:37,080 I just had to pack my suitcase, and then I could go. 276 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:39,840 I remember doing up our house in Moscow, 277 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,080 and I wanted these very specific cast-iron radiators. 278 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:45,880 And I just put ten on a private jet, and then-- 279 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,800 you know, and I would never have got them to Moscow. 280 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:50,680 [narrator] Alexandra and Sergei moved 281 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,800 between an array of properties. 282 00:12:53,680 --> 00:12:55,480 There was the £12 million family home 283 00:12:55,560 --> 00:12:57,200 they were renovating in Battersea, 284 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,320 a 200-acre country estate in Herefordshire, 285 00:13:02,560 --> 00:13:04,920 and then in the Caribbean, 286 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,760 a beachfront villa costing $40 million. 287 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:10,000 [Alexandra] Sergei suddenly said, 288 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,680 ‘Oh, let’s go to St. Barts in the Carribean.' 289 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,400 Then when we were there, he just went and walked 290 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:15,520 into an estate agency and said, 291 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:16,600 ‘I want to buy a house.’ [laughs lightly] 292 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,200 And then he bought the best house on the island. 293 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:21,720 It was on the best beach. 294 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,360 It had a massive beachfront. 295 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,160 It was incredible. 296 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:26,800 [splash] 297 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,400 [Alexandra] I would go there each spring for three months, 298 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,600 and we took with us our housekeeper, nanny, 299 00:13:33,680 --> 00:13:35,280 bodyguard, doctor. 300 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,920 All that money meant that I didn’t have to work, 301 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:41,560 I didn’t have to clean, 302 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:43,080 that I could spend 303 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,120 as much time as possible with my children. 304 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,320 -[Sergei] Hello. -[Alexandra] Hello, my babies! 305 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,000 [Alexandra] Of course I enjoyed it. 306 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,920 He just made me feel incredibly protected and safe. 307 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,120 [narrator] But though the good times rolled 308 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:07,640 around the world for Sergei and Alexandra, 309 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,120 back in Russia, 310 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,080 the mood had long since changed. 311 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:12,920 [military boots marching] 312 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,680 [narrator] Vladimir Putin had turned 313 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:17,240 against his former oligarch allies. 314 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:19,280 [Vladimir Putin in Russian] 315 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:31,960 [narrator] When President Putin summoned 316 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,320 the oligarchs to a meeting, 317 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:35,880 Sergei was amongst those present. 318 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,840 But it was Mikhail Khodorkovsky, 319 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,640 the richest man in Russia, 320 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:43,960 who hit back about state corruption. 321 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,760 Later, he’d pay the price, 322 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,760 sent to prison for ten years. 323 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,160 Within months, the Russian government passed 324 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,280 a new law giving its agents 325 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,880 a license to kill enemies of the state 326 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,520 anywhere in the world. 327 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,960 It wasn’t long before Putin’s attentions 328 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,040 turned to Sergei 329 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:06,640 and his billions. 330 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,000 [Luke] Essentially, there was a cooling. 331 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:10,920 Pugachev, who was seeing Putin daily-- 332 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,560 he was seeing him less often. 333 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:13,640 [Luke] So they hadn’t fallen out, 334 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,520 but he was moving to the edge of Putin’s circle. 335 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:18,280 And generally, when that happens, 336 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:19,480 that--that doesn’t end well. 337 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:23,320 [Sergei] 338 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:40,960 [interviewer] Could he have been threatened 339 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:42,680 by your success, do you think? 340 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:45,680 [Sergei] Yes, sure. Yeah. 341 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,200 [narrator] If Putin was growing suspicious of Sergei, 342 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,360 he would soon have good reason. 343 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,200 In 2008, Sergei’s bank hit problems, 344 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,480 and the Russian state bailed it out 345 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,160 with a billion-dollar loan. 346 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,720 Two years later, the bank still went under 347 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,040 with no sign of what happened to the loan. 348 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:12,960 Sergei claims he’d sold the bank many years earlier, 349 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:14,760 but Russia disagreed. 350 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:16,440 In court, 351 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,960 he was found liable for the bank’s losses. 352 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,360 They said the bailout money had gone 353 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:22,840 into a Swiss bank account 354 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:24,640 and then was moved around 355 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:25,720 until, eventually, 356 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:27,200 all one billion 357 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:28,720 simply vanished. 358 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,600 Sergei fled Russia. 359 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:34,000 [Oliver] If Pugachev had stayed in Russia, 360 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:35,320 he would probably be jailed, 361 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:37,360 and he would be vulnerable. 362 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:40,400 [Oliver] Saying that Pugachev is innocent or guilty, 363 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:41,760 it--it’s just irrelevant. 364 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:42,880 If he did do something, 365 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,440 that just made it easier for the prosecutors. 366 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:45,680 If he didn’t do something, they could’ve 367 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,200 invented it anyway. 368 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:50,720 -[loud thud] -[Oliver] The Russian state is 369 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,800 best thought of as a mafia organisation. 370 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,520 It's very good at getting what it wants. 371 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:57,640 It’s very good at harassing people. 372 00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:59,560 It’s very good at imprisoning people, 373 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:00,800 It’s very good at killing people. 374 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:03,680 [Oliver] So yeah, leaving the country is 375 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:04,960 a sensible survival strategy. 376 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:07,680 It’s not sufficient because some people 377 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:08,920 outside the country have been murdered, 378 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,319 but it’s sensible. 379 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,520 [narrator] In Nice, Sergei’s chateau proves to be 380 00:17:17,599 --> 00:17:19,839 the most luxurious of hideaways. 381 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:21,280 [cook] Would you like steamed salmon? 382 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:22,880 -[Sergei] Smoked salmon. -[cook] And not steamed? 383 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,000 [Sergei] Yeah, no. Smoked. Thank you. 384 00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:26,599 [narrator] But Sergei is now 385 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,240 an enemy of the Russian state 386 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:31,680 and claims he’s already had his first taste of this. 387 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,400 He says he’s been visited 388 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:37,120 by Russia’s Deposit Insurance Agency, 389 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:38,240 or DIA, 390 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,200 demanding repayment 391 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:41,720 for the billion-dollar loan. 392 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:45,320 [Sergei] 393 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,080 [interviewer] And were you frightened? 394 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:17,280 [narrator] The DIA deny this ever happened. 395 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,480 What’s certain is Sergei refused 396 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:21,560 to pay the money. 397 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:23,800 -[live marching band music] -[synchronized footsteps] 398 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:26,680 [narrator] Over the next few years, 399 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:28,520 enemies of the Russian state 400 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,360 would continue to fall. 401 00:18:34,360 --> 00:18:35,840 [news anchor 1] This is the affluent community 402 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:37,120 in Southern England. 403 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,920 It was here that wealthy Russian exile 404 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,040 and whistle-blower Alexander Perepilichny 405 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:42,720 dropped dead while jogging. 406 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,240 Traces of an extremely toxic plant 407 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:47,280 in his stomach appear to have been found. 408 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,520 [news anchor 2] Boris Berezovsky died by hanging, 409 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:52,720 British police say. 410 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,280 The 67-year-old was found dead in a locked bathroom 411 00:18:55,360 --> 00:18:56,720 at his home at the weekend. 412 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,600 He was a one-time ally of Vladimir Putin, 413 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:01,520 but in 2000, he started to speak out 414 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:02,880 against the Russian president 415 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,800 and exiled himself in the UK. 416 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,320 [news anchor 3] Boris Nemtsov was shot 417 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:09,920 four times in the back, 418 00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:12,000 in the shadow of the Kremlin. 419 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,280 Mr. Nemtsov was due to lead a rally 420 00:19:14,360 --> 00:19:16,280 against Putin tomorrow. 421 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:17,800 Opposition figures point 422 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,120 to the Russian authorities being involved. 423 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:21,960 [Oliver] The Russian government 424 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:23,640 kills people if it can’t get to them 425 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:24,720 any other way. 426 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,800 There have been a lot of business people 427 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,280 with Russian connections whose deaths are... 428 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:31,520 mysterious. 429 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,360 [Oliver] You shouldn’t infer from that 430 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,520 that everyone is going to be a victim 431 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:38,400 of state-sponsored assassination. 432 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,480 But if I had fallen out with the Kremlin, 433 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:42,560 I would be nervous. 434 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:45,520 Once one assassination has happened, 435 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:47,480 you start looking over your shoulder all the time. 436 00:19:57,360 --> 00:19:58,560 [narrator] By 2015, 437 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,240 Sergei is living as a permanent exile, 438 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:03,720 dividing his time between France 439 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,240 and the family home in London. 440 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,240 [boys chatting] 441 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,400 [narrator] But Russia’s DIA is closing in 442 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:12,960 and using the British courts 443 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,200 to pursue Sergei and the missing billion dollars. 444 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:19,680 His passports have been seized, 445 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,080 his assets frozen worldwide, 446 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,920 and the family’s become aware 447 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:25,440 they’re being followed. 448 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,000 Surveillance footage shows 449 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,120 how closely they're being watched. 450 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,160 [Alexandra] That was my birthday, 451 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,600 and Sergei was buying me some flowers 452 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:36,840 just off the King’s Road, 453 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,640 and two guys jumped out of a car, like, harassed him. 454 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:43,720 [tense ambient tone] 455 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:48,800 [Alexandra] He was with his bodyguard, 456 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,160 and his bodyguard pushed them away, 457 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:53,560 and Sergei drove off. 458 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,080 And he called me, and he said, 459 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,600 'I’ve just been, like, harassed by two people, 460 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:00,840 and I’m not coming to dinner.' 461 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,600 I called immediately Alexandra: 462 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:06,680 ‘Be careful. 463 00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:08,360 Be at home, 464 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:10,840 and stay there. 465 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:12,840 Don’t move. 466 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:14,280 We have to check what happened.’ 467 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,320 [Sergei] A lot of people called me: 468 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:19,800 'Look, you know that... 469 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,840 they want-- they want to kill you. 470 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:24,720 Be careful.’ 471 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:25,800 It’s very, very... 472 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,240 uh, dangerous. 473 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,040 [Alexandra] I came home that night, and... 474 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,440 Sergei did not come back for three days, 475 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,560 and I didn’t hear from him, and I didn’t know where he was. 476 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,280 [narrator] In fact, the men following Sergei were 477 00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:44,160 lawyers for Russia’s DIA, 478 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:46,680 trying to serve him with court papers. 479 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,400 But it didn’t stop there. 480 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,320 [Alexandra] Then the next day, 481 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,600 I went to my boys’ sports day, 482 00:21:54,120 --> 00:21:55,120 and a mother came up to me, and she went 483 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,440 ‘Oh my God, I’m so sorry to hear about you.’ 484 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:58,640 And I went, ‘What?’ 485 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,080 She went, ‘Oh, did you not read this article in the paper?’ 486 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,400 [Alexandra] The police discovered GPS trackers 487 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:06,560 on every single one of my cars 488 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,720 including the car only, only used 489 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:09,840 by me and my children. 490 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,000 And... 491 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,040 they were saying that maybe two of them were bombs. 492 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,080 [narrator] An investigation by the Met Police confirmed 493 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,080 they weren’t bombs, but they were 494 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:24,480 hidden trackers. 495 00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:41,240 [narrator] Sergei didn’t wait to find out. 496 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:42,960 Without his passport, 497 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,000 he needed to get out of Britain quickly 498 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,960 and in secret. 499 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:48,800 [interviewer] How did you leave the country? 500 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:50,040 How did you get away? 501 00:22:50,360 --> 00:22:52,000 Mmm, somebody helped me. 502 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:54,720 [interviewer] You are not saying? 503 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:55,800 No. 504 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,440 [narrator] It’s the summer of 2015. 505 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,320 Sergei remains in hiding at his chateau in Nice, 506 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:11,440 increasingly, his fortress 507 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:12,680 as well as his home. 508 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:15,520 [Sergei] It was my... 509 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,760 salon rouge for my guests, 510 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,600 for everybody, but right now, 511 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,480 it’s just my children’s, yeah, room. 512 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:24,600 It’s different. 513 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,640 [interviewer] So this is the, kind of, formal guest room? 514 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,600 [Sergei] It was. Yeah. Not now. 515 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,240 [narrator] Sergei’s been summoned 516 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:32,920 to the High Court in London, 517 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,240 accused of leaving the UK without permission. 518 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:37,960 And more than this, 519 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,680 he’s missing Alexandra and the children 520 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:41,800 back in Britain. 521 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:43,720 [interviewer] Do you think they're safe in London? 522 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:48,480 [Sergei] Nobody knows. 523 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,040 Nobody knows. It’s-- 524 00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:51,480 life is life, but it’s... 525 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,400 maybe we will fix it, but... 526 00:23:55,120 --> 00:23:56,280 nobody knows when. 527 00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:58,600 [interviewer] But you--well, for the moment it’s a worry? 528 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:00,000 Of course, sure. 529 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,160 Of course. Every time, every day. 530 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:04,680 [suspended ambient tone] 531 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:13,760 [moderate piano music] 532 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:16,720 [narrator] It’s autumn, 533 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,000 and Sergei’s heading for Paris 534 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:21,200 with a high-risk strategy. 535 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,480 He’s going head-to-head with the Russian state 536 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,560 and suing them for the loss of his business assets. 537 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:28,680 [news programme theme music] 538 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:31,960 [in Russian] 539 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,000 [news anchor in Russian] 540 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,080 [narrator] Today Sergei will announce 541 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:56,800 his multibillion-dollar lawsuit against the Russian state. 542 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:01,080 Alexandra’s come to support him at the press conference. 543 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,640 [Alexandra] I do feel very frightened for-- 544 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:05,320 especially for Sergei’s safety 545 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,080 but also for mine and the children 546 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,240 because... 547 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,040 there have been such terrible cases of murder, 548 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,000 especially in London. 549 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,280 [Alexandra] I know a few days ago he had a bad incident 550 00:25:18,360 --> 00:25:19,400 in Paris, where... 551 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,640 he was driving a car, and two cars tried to... 552 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,000 you know, squash his car. 553 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,000 [Alexandra] But, you know, I chose him, 554 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:30,440 and... 555 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,720 I chose a very riskful life, so... 556 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:35,960 And I love him, so... 557 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:37,680 it’s my choice. [laughs lightly] 558 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,840 [narrator] Sergei’s hotel, factories, and shipyards have 559 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,120 all been seized, 560 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:48,920 and he’s accused of stealing 561 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,840 from the bank he once owned, 562 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,960 but he's refusing to lay low. 563 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,480 [Sergei’s litigation advisor] We are very pleased to announce 564 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,000 that Mr. Pugachev has successfully 565 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,680 registered his claim against the Russian Federation 566 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,680 for damages in excess of ten billion US dollars. 567 00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:09,520 [tense ambient tones] 568 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,680 [Sergei’s litigation advisor] The regime now in Russia has 569 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,280 a history of intimidation. 570 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,280 When they want you, they go for you, 571 00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:26,840 and they don’t care how they go for you. 572 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,640 [advisor] And you gotta not lose your resolve, 573 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,120 and then you end up with nothing. 574 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,360 But frankly, they took almost everything, 575 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,040 so once you have nothing, you fight for everything. 576 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,160 And Sergei will fight for everything. 577 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:44,840 [advisor] And it’s more human than people realise. 578 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,960 Alexandra’s being watched. She knows it. 579 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:48,520 So... 580 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:49,640 Alexandra is stressed. 581 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,080 She's worried about Sergei. 582 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:53,880 What kind of pressure is he under? 583 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:55,960 How are my children taken care of? 584 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,120 You can’t talk a lot about what’s going on, 585 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,720 but the children are saying, ‘Where’s Papa?’ 586 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:01,800 Right? 587 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:05,480 [Alexandra] I don’t talk about our arrangements on the phone. 588 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,720 I don’t even tell--I mean, I’ll my friends where I am, 589 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:10,800 but you know, I’m very careful. 590 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:12,480 Even my parents, I don’t tell too much. 591 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,040 [Alexandra] I have periods of being terribly anxious, 592 00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:18,080 but then-- and I’m not going to leave him, 593 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,400 so... 594 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:20,480 what can I do? 595 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,360 [crows cawing] 596 00:27:31,360 --> 00:27:34,000 [narrator] Alexandra’s life has moved a long way 597 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,320 from the one her parents had envisaged for her, 598 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,360 from their family home in the English countryside. 599 00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:41,600 [introductory accordion notes] 600 00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:49,040 [narrator] Her father is Count Nikolai Tolstoy, 601 00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:51,760 a distant cousin of the author Leo Tolstoy. 602 00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:55,360 The family have inherited Russian titles. 603 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:57,800 [Nikolai] Here is where I work. 604 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,960 [narrator] Count Tolstoy is an author and historian. 605 00:28:02,360 --> 00:28:03,720 [Nikolai] That’s the--a book I wrote 606 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,240 on the history of our family. 607 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,560 And in fact, there's-- oh look at that. 608 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,320 There you can see they were all quite little. 609 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:11,880 There's Alexandra among them. 610 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,360 [Georgina] She likes exciting things. 611 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,160 She likes adventure. 612 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,240 She doesn’t really go for-- 613 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,360 necessarily for security. 614 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,480 I mean, I always remember when she-- 615 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,120 she begged and begged us to go away to boarding school, 616 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,160 which was not what we had planned at all, 617 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,000 especially for the girls. 618 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,040 And you know I said, ‘Why, why do you?’ 619 00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:37,080 and she said, ‘Why, I just love the adventure. 620 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,320 I just want to go.’ 621 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,120 And... 622 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,200 she was, um... 623 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:45,120 yeah, she wasn’t always 624 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,040 very conforming at school, but... 625 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,400 [laughs] 626 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,560 she certainly loved it at Downham House, yes. 627 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:54,840 [narrator] Alexandra went 628 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,960 from an elite boarding school to working 629 00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,280 as a broker in the city 630 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:02,080 before embarking on a decade of Russian adventures. 631 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,160 While Sergei was building his empire, 632 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,440 Alexandra was in another world entirely. 633 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:09,840 [horses' hooves clopping] 634 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,760 [narrator] She started a travel business 635 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,160 and rode by horseback 636 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,200 through the former Soviet Union, 637 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,480 Turkmenistan, Kyrgysztan, and beyond. 638 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:20,560 But then came love, 639 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,200 a handsome man on horseback: 640 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:24,720 Shamil, 641 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,200 a penniless cossack. 642 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:27,600 Salud. 643 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,680 [narrator] It was, by any account, 644 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,280 an extraordinary match. 645 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,200 They even took part in a documentary 646 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,680 about unlikely couples, which featured them 647 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,640 in Shamil’s tiny flat in Uzbekistan. 648 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,520 [Alexandra] And this is the bathroom... 649 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,240 [Shamil speaking in foreign language] 650 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:48,760 [Alexandra] ...which Shamil says that he's washing. 651 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:49,960 [Shamil speaking in foreign language] 652 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,600 [Alexandra] And... 653 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:54,920 this is the kitchen. 654 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,680 [up-tempo plucked music] 655 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:58,640 [Shamil speaking in foreign language] 656 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,000 [Alexandra] Mm? [Shamil laughs] 657 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:02,600 [Alexandra] Uh, this is where we cook, 658 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,960 on this tiny little stove. 659 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,480 [narrator] Unfortunately, 660 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,560 it didn’t last. 661 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,360 A few years later, 662 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,440 when Alexandra and Shamil were struggling 663 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:14,560 to make ends meet, 664 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,520 along came a knight in shining armour. 665 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:20,800 [Alexandra] When I met Sergei, 666 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,720 I wasn’t happy in my marriage, 667 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,840 and I’d had a very, very stressful time. 668 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,440 Sergei felt like this saviour coming in. 669 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,840 I talked with him for hours and hours on the phone. 670 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,520 I just didn’t want to be with anyone else. 671 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:34,960 And I don’t think that in my life 672 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,160 I’d ever felt that before. 673 00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,800 [interviewer] Did you like him when you met him? 674 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:41,560 [Nikolai] Yes, yes. 675 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,080 He was very modest. 676 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:44,160 There was nothing 677 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,120 Sir Philip Green about him 678 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,280 [laughs lightly] remotely. 679 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:51,720 And I still picture him with Alexei, the youngest, 680 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,440 wheeling out his pushchair to the, um, 681 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,680 village shop to go and buy some sweets or something. 682 00:30:57,760 --> 00:30:59,200 There isn’t many people 683 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:00,640 of his wealth that would do that. 684 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,520 [Georgina] Well, I said to Alexandra 685 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,200 on the phone before we’d even met him, 686 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:07,320 I said, ‘You know, 687 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:09,680 you're so used to your freedom. 688 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,080 You love riding. 689 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,280 Have you actually thought what’s gonna happen, you know? 690 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,600 I can imagine that somebody like that 691 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:18,760 is gonna be jealous, 692 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,400 that they’re going to want to keep you in a gilded cage. 693 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:23,600 [Georgina] You know, they’re so used to 694 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:24,920 having what they want 695 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:26,440 and getting what they want.’ 696 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:29,520 And she said, ‘Oh, well, you know, 697 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,360 you don’t understand. We're so in love.’ 698 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:32,600 And... 699 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:34,240 I was--yeah, I was really worried. 700 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:35,320 I thought... 701 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,320 'Do you really know what you're doing?' 702 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:39,960 [ambient chords] 703 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,720 [narrator] It’s December 2015, 704 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,240 and Alexandra is at home in Chelsea 705 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,840 when on the instructions of the High Court, 706 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,480 three police officers arrive late at night 707 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,160 looking for Sergei. 708 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:58,520 [Alexandra] They said, ‘We have 709 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,080 a search and arrest warrant for Sergei Pugachev. 710 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:02,600 If you don’t let us in now, 711 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:03,920 we will knock the door down.’ 712 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:06,720 [Alexandra] So I was on my own, you know, 713 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,240 with the children and my nanny. 714 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:09,480 So I had to let them in. 715 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,440 So they literally looked 716 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:14,080 everywhere, every cupboard, every bathroom, every room. 717 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,560 Even they looked, um, under here. 718 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:18,760 [Alexandra] It used to be a cellar, but it’s where we have 719 00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:19,840 the boiler. 720 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,920 [Alexandra] Looked in cupboards in the children’s room. 721 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,600 I was very, very upset because my children were there, 722 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:25,720 and I don’t want them, 723 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,480 you know, to hear anything like that. 724 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:28,600 It’s very traumatic. 725 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:30,800 It’s a method of intimidation, 726 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,320 just as it was when they put GPS trackers on our cars. 727 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,880 It’s to frighten me and to frighten my children... 728 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:38,520 to get at Sergei, and I-- 729 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:39,960 It’s just really, really unpleasant. 730 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,600 I’m a British citizen, and I have done nothing. 731 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,160 [Oliver] The Russian prosecution agency is-- 732 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:49,360 it's like a-- the mob enforcement wing. 733 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,800 [Oliver] And they use all the tools at their disposal, 734 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,520 whether those tools are legal tools or extra-legal tools. 735 00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,000 Whatever is the tool for the moment, 736 00:32:58,080 --> 00:32:59,080 they will use it. 737 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:02,640 [narrator] Two months on, 738 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,440 Russia is continuing to use 739 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,800 the High Court to pursue Sergei 740 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,600 and the missing billion dollars. 741 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:12,880 Alone in London, 742 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,080 Alexandra fears she'll be caught up in the case, 743 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,280 so she's leaving the country with the children. 744 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,800 [Alexandra] I'd love to see the swimming costumes, I think. 745 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,240 [Alexandra] It’s just so, so frightening 746 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,720 what’s happening to us, and I feel so out of control. 747 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,280 [Alexandra] When I met Sergei, I was a very relaxed person, 748 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:31,360 very, very happy, 749 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:33,640 very reckless and carefree, 750 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:34,760 and probably, you know, 751 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,800 my life has ended up like this because of that. 752 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:37,880 [interviewer] Do you regret? 753 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,200 No, because I love my children so much. 754 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,360 How could I regret it? And I do-- 755 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:43,440 of course, I love Sergei. 756 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,800 I do really love him, and I feel like... 757 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,520 No, I don’t regret. It’s more that I regret-- 758 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,520 sometimes I look back, and we've had a very, 759 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:54,720 very turbulent relationship, 760 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:55,960 and I feel 761 00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,440 regret for my children that it wasn’t, 762 00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:58,720 sort of, more peaceful and calm. 763 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,440 Sometimes I just want to cry. I feel like... 764 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:09,960 [Alexandra] And I think some people look at me 765 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,320 and they think, ‘Oh, I'll bet your life’s so easy,' 766 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,400 you know, and 'Your lucky children, 767 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:14,679 they are so privileged.' 768 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,080 But they are not, you know. The most... 769 00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,760 privileged upbringing is 770 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,000 to live in a safe and secure and happy... 771 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,679 family unit, which is together. 772 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,480 [narrator] Alexandra’s taken the children out of school. 773 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,040 Their flight is booked. 774 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:31,600 They're leaving tonight. 775 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:33,120 [Alexandra] Darling, shall we decide 776 00:34:33,199 --> 00:34:34,360 what we’ve got to pack from here? 777 00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:35,960 [son angrily] Hmph! 778 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,080 [Alexandra] I’m a bit worried about how much-- 779 00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:38,520 Oh my goodness. 780 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,440 [Alexandra] We're going for six weeks, seven weeks. 781 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:42,880 I can’t say where we're going 782 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:44,679 because of security. 783 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,960 You know, it’s too dangerous to say where we are going. 784 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,120 And we're going because... 785 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,880 we very much hope that Sergei can be there with us. 786 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:53,760 Obviously, he can’t come here. 787 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:55,360 And... 788 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,480 also, I think Sergei, 789 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,200 he wants me out of the country for a while. 790 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,120 [Alexandra] They don’t want me to be called as a witness. 791 00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,800 Sergei feels it’s, like, a terrible invasion, and... 792 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,040 again, intimidation, 793 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,320 and he doesn’t want me to be subjected to that. 794 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,840 And so far, he’s been very protective of me, 795 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:13,120 and, you know, not... 796 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,760 telling me things in order to protect me. 797 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,920 [Alexandra] I would rather not go to court. [laughs] 798 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:20,160 And I don’t want to be torn apart 799 00:35:20,240 --> 00:35:21,240 in a sort of public way. 800 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,120 [Alexandra] So he'll come for a bit, 801 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:25,360 or maybe the whole thing. I don’t know. 802 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,480 But he doesn’t even tell me on the telephone. 803 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:28,800 [somber solo piano music] 804 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:31,640 [Sergei on phone in Russian] 805 00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:32,720 [child in Russian] 806 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,240 [Alexandra] And I feel really sorry for Sergei because... 807 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,040 you know, he’s been forcibly separated 808 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,200 from his own family. 809 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:42,000 Awful, because he adores-- 810 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,520 you know, it’s not like he’s not really into-- 811 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,040 Maybe some men like that are not really into their children, 812 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,640 but he is really, really into his children. 813 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,040 Aw. 814 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:53,760 I have to be philosophical and think that... 815 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,240 It can only get better. [laughs lightly] 816 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:58,240 Well, hope so. 817 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:01,600 [narrator] In fact, 818 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,440 it would get so much worse. 819 00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:07,760 Later that month, 820 00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:09,760 the High Court sentences Sergei 821 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,360 to two years in prison for leaving the country 822 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:13,440 without permission. 823 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,800 If he sets foot in the UK now, 824 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:17,560 he’ll go straight to jail. 825 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,800 Sergei never made it to the secret location 826 00:36:22,880 --> 00:36:24,040 to join Alexandra, 827 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,880 but she and the children visit him regularly 828 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,640 at the chateau in France. 829 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:32,880 [up-tempo string bass rhythm] 830 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,440 [narrator] With Sergei now permanently in hiding, 831 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,640 the threat from Russia hangs over the couple. 832 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:46,160 [bass melody continues with drums] 833 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,800 [narrator] It’s difficult for them to move far 834 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,800 beyond the confines of the chateau, 835 00:36:53,240 --> 00:36:55,880 putting huge pressure on their relationship. 836 00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,240 [interviewer] Where do you think you and Sergei 837 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,640 are at your happiest? 838 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,320 Sergei is happiest here. [laughs] 839 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:07,960 -[Sergei laughs] No. -Um... 840 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:10,080 [Sergei] 841 00:37:11,240 --> 00:37:13,200 [Alexandra] No, but you are. I think you are happiest here. 842 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:17,760 [Sergei] 843 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:18,880 [Alexandra laughs] 844 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:22,960 -[Sergei] -[Alexandra] No, I'm happy here, 845 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,240 but it’s-- 846 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:25,440 along with feeling very safe, 847 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:26,920 it feels quite isolated as well. 848 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:28,840 [Alexandra] So I find it difficult then. 849 00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:30,360 [Sergei] Yeah. 850 00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:34,120 -[laughing] To be isolated? -[Sergei] Yeah. 851 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:39,040 -[pool balls crash] -[Sergei] Hmm. 852 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,440 [Alexandra] I think Sergei loves the feeling of security, 853 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,160 and also he’s just by nature quite a loner, 854 00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:46,280 so he loves to be... 855 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,920 with his family alone, 856 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:51,160 feeling secure. You know, he hasn’t been 857 00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:52,520 out of the house for two weeks 858 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:54,360 he told me, since I last came here, 859 00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:55,720 and he doesn’t mind. 860 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,120 -[Sergei disappointed] Ugh. -[Alexandra groans] 861 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,240 [Alexandra] I suppose I just feel concerned about... 862 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,880 how our future as a family works. 863 00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,720 [narrator] Alexandra and Sergei must decide 864 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,520 whether to uproot the family 865 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,760 to live all together in France. 866 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:14,760 [Sergei in Russian] 867 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:27,360 [interviewer] How does that feel 868 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,440 for you to be here and the family to be in London? 869 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:30,840 Horrible, of course. 870 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:32,680 We have to be together. 871 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:34,560 [suspended string chords] 872 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:38,640 [Alexandra] To be brutal, I can’t live here. 873 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:40,360 You know, and I’ve had to think about it a lot. 874 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,040 I just would feel too 875 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:43,880 claustrophobic and enclosed 876 00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:45,720 and isolated. 877 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:47,800 It’s about feeling isolated, and I just-- 878 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:50,600 I couldn’t do it. 879 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,360 [suspended ambient tones] 880 00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:11,240 [Alexandra] I still find it, 881 00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,720 the whole situation, very... 882 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,320 stressful, really, 883 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:17,800 because it’s still so undecided. 884 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,680 You know, Sergei wants us to live here. I just... 885 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:21,680 don’t know if I can do that, really. 886 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,280 And... 887 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:26,920 you know, everything in life is-- 888 00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:28,760 you’re able to cope with, 889 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:30,840 and I think what it is, if you have 890 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:32,680 an idea of what will happen-- 891 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,200 but I just have no idea, 892 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,480 and I find that very stressful... 893 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,400 [Alexandra] that I can’t plan or predict or... 894 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,280 envisage what will happen. 895 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,280 [narrator] Alexandra left the chateau abruptly 896 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:51,880 in the spring of 2016, 897 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:53,560 taking the children with her. 898 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,440 They would never return. 899 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:03,800 [birds chirping] 900 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:09,960 [narrator] Back in England, 901 00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,040 Alexandra still seems shocked 902 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,080 at the events at the chateau that spring 903 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,040 and the changes brought for the whole family. 904 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:19,600 Sergei had one of his explosions 905 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:20,680 where he... 906 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:22,760 physically attacked me. 907 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,080 [Alexandra] He locked the children in a room, 908 00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,760 separate from me, and he locked my passport 909 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,440 and the children’s passports in his safe. 910 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,200 And he has a gun in his room. 911 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,840 [Alexandra] Something in me just snapped that weekend. 912 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,960 I just said, 'I cannot ever, ever do this again.' 913 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,480 I’m never--I said, 'I can come and visit, 914 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:45,920 but I’m n--' because at that point, 915 00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,360 I was wavering. I felt guilty. 916 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:48,680 Should I come and live there with him, 917 00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:50,320 or should I not? 918 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:51,480 But that was... 919 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:53,800 the--just the end. 920 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,120 I knew we weren’t safe. 921 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:56,240 I just knew it. 922 00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:58,440 [somber plucked music] 923 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:13,720 [Sergei in Russian] 924 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,280 [ambient tone swells and recedes] 925 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,440 [narrator] Over the next two years, 926 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:56,960 the death toll rises 927 00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,760 for enemies of the Russian state. 928 00:41:59,240 --> 00:42:00,240 [moderate ambient music] 929 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,040 [explosion booms] 930 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,280 [narrator] Relations between Britain 931 00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,480 and Russia reach a new low. 932 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,480 Sergei Skripal, 933 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,440 a former Russian agent who’d fled to the UK, 934 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,160 and his daughter Yulia 935 00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,480 are poisoned with a nerve agent, 936 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:31,640 Novichok, 937 00:42:31,720 --> 00:42:32,720 in the Wiltshire city 938 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:33,880 of Salisbury. 939 00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:36,800 Though the Skripals eventually recover, 940 00:42:37,240 --> 00:42:38,760 a local resident dies. 941 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:40,480 [Theresa May] The two individuals 942 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,640 named by the police and CPS 943 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:44,360 are officers 944 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,320 from the Russian military intelligence service. 945 00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:49,720 -[crowd murmurs] -[May] We will not tolerate 946 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,200 such barbaric attacks 947 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:52,560 against our country. 948 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,840 [Sir Malcolm Rifkind] I think he certainly allows 949 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,680 aspects of his intelligence network 950 00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,920 to take decisions 951 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,000 that in his view will punish people 952 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,200 who have betrayed the Russian Federation. 953 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,160 [Ben Brown] Some breaking news, 954 00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:08,920 and a murder investigation 955 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,680 has been launched into the death 956 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,960 of another Russian on British soil. 957 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:16,200 [narrator] By 2018, 958 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:17,960 some 40 Russians 959 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:19,800 who’ve fallen foul of the Kremlin 960 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,800 have met untimely deaths. 961 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,160 [ambient music ends] 962 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,800 [narrator] In London, Alexandra lives in fear, 963 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,560 but now she seems to have two enemies: 964 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,160 the Russian state 965 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:42,640 and Sergei. 966 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,480 [interviewer] So this man, how often is he there? 967 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,440 [Alexandra] Oh, he’s there every day, all day, 968 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,040 and he’s been there for about... 969 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:52,120 six months, more? 970 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,560 He talks really loudly in Russian. 971 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:57,520 But I do find it very, very odd 972 00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:59,800 because it’s also the kind of style of person 973 00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:01,760 who Sergei would get to spy on us. 974 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:04,920 [interviewer] It would be hard not to be... 975 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,240 paranoid, given-- 976 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:07,680 [laughing] given everything you’ve been through. 977 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:09,800 No, I’m very paranoid. 978 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,000 [Alexandra] I went to the Russian government’s 979 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,120 lawyers here, 980 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,120 and I said-- I assumed it was them, 981 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:16,480 and I said, ‘Oh, are you having me followed?’ 982 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,240 And they said, ‘We have 983 00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:19,720 information 984 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,640 that, uh, Sergei has been having you followed.’ 985 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:26,280 [interviewer] Why-- why would he do that though? 986 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:28,600 [Alexandra] Because, I don’t know now, 987 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:29,840 but definitely there have been 988 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:33,400 long phases where he’s absolutely hell-bent on revenge 989 00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:34,480 that I wouldn’t... 990 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:36,640 go with him to France. 991 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,040 [plucked musical introduction] 992 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:43,160 [narrator] Now, permanently separated 993 00:44:43,240 --> 00:44:45,760 from Alexandra, Sergei is consumed 994 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,120 by his multibillion-dollar lawsuit 995 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:49,520 against the Russian state, 996 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:51,440 whatever the dangers. 997 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,240 [interviewer] Are you on Putin’s hit list? 998 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,360 What number do you think you are? 999 00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,120 [Sergei] The--theoretically, in newspapers, 1000 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:00,360 number three, 1001 00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:01,440 [laughing] but who knows? 1002 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,080 Honestly, I don’t know. 1003 00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:04,960 Maybe number one. 1004 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:09,320 [Sergei] 1005 00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:29,720 [children having discussion] 1006 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,240 [narrator] The children haven’t seen their father 1007 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,480 since they left France in 2016. 1008 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,400 Alexandra says 1009 00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:42,480 Sergei’s cut her off financially. 1010 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:44,240 [toy swords clacking] 1011 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,880 [Alexandra] Our relationship is non-existent, I would say, 1012 00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:48,960 except... 1013 00:45:49,720 --> 00:45:51,520 he occasionally writes very abusive emails. 1014 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:52,680 He’s... 1015 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,600 accused me of working with the Russian government. 1016 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:55,920 He’s accused me of being a-- 1017 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,240 -[interviewer] The government? -Yeah, 1018 00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,880 he says I’m a KGB spy, 1019 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:00,640 and-- 1020 00:46:00,720 --> 00:46:01,800 [interviewer] Why does he think that? 1021 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,160 [Alexandra] Because I went to the family court 1022 00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:06,800 and I sued for maintenance. 1023 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:09,680 Obviously, he never ever paid a penny 1024 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:11,120 of any of that maintenance. 1025 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,000 He completely cut us off. 1026 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:19,200 [Alexandra] Okay, did you both brush your teeth? 1027 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,280 -[Alexei] Yes. -[Alexandra] Good. 1028 00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:23,880 [narrator] On the orders of the High Court, 1029 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,400 the family home has been put on the market. 1030 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,720 And Alexandra’s been asked to drop her claim 1031 00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:30,960 on Sergei’s fortune 1032 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:32,880 in return for a deal. 1033 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,600 [Ivan] Why can’t we just put some butter? 1034 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:36,600 [Alexandra] Because if you did, it wouldn’t mix in, would it? 1035 00:46:38,240 --> 00:46:39,400 [Alexandra] So the Russian government said to me, 1036 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:40,720 ‘Okay, if you agree to waive 1037 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:41,880 your maintenance 1038 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:43,880 and not claim your debt, 1039 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,640 we will let you stay in the house for one year.’ 1040 00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:50,000 What was I meant to do? 1041 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,280 I literally-- I either signed the agreement 1042 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:53,920 or I left the house the next day. 1043 00:46:57,240 --> 00:47:00,200 [narrator] But this deal with his enemy has simply 1044 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:01,880 fanned the flames for Sergei. 1045 00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,240 [Sergei in Russian] 1046 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,080 [somber solo piano music] 1047 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,400 [narrator] Alexandra’s parents seem unsurprised 1048 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:29,880 by the turn of events. 1049 00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,360 [interviewer] Should we have any sympathy for Sergei? 1050 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:35,280 [Georgina] Yeah, no, I always feel sorry 1051 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,400 for somebody who can’t, 1052 00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:37,800 you know, see their own children, 1053 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:39,080 but on the other hand, he-- 1054 00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:40,840 he’s brought the whole thing on himself. 1055 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,280 It didn’t need to be like this. 1056 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:45,520 You know, if he’d been remotely compromising 1057 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:46,800 about the thing, 1058 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:47,920 it could have worked out. 1059 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,280 You know, Alexandra did always make it clear 1060 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,240 that she couldn’t live in France. 1061 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,240 But she said that she would take them there. 1062 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:57,840 They could spend their holidays there. 1063 00:47:58,560 --> 00:47:59,960 But I think he thought 1064 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,840 by cutting her off financially, 1065 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,640 that she would be so desperate 1066 00:48:03,720 --> 00:48:05,240 that she would end up going there. 1067 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:06,720 And that hasn’t happened. 1068 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,320 And I think that has really surprised him, probably. 1069 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,160 And it’s something that’s never happened to him before. 1070 00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:14,840 He’s never had anybody 1071 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:16,840 not capitulate to... 1072 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,360 you know, 1073 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,040 what he wanted. 1074 00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,160 [somber solo piano music] 1075 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:23,400 [interviewer] Do you think he still loves her? 1076 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:25,960 Probably not. 1077 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:27,960 -[interviewer] Probably not? -[Georgiana hums] 1078 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,760 Probably now, he’d like to get revenge. 1079 00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:34,440 [narrator] Alexandra’s supporting herself 1080 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:35,560 and the children 1081 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,080 by writing and reviving 1082 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:38,440 her old travel business. 1083 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:41,880 But the one-year deal with Russia’s lawyers 1084 00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:42,960 is coming to an end, 1085 00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,040 and her time at the house 1086 00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:46,160 is running out. 1087 00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:47,840 [Alexandra] The house is on the market, 1088 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:49,480 and people come and visit the whole time. 1089 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,640 The Russian government, they said, 1090 00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:52,880 'You can stay in there as long as the house 1091 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:53,960 doesn’t sell.' 1092 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,640 So each month, I sign a document saying 1093 00:48:56,720 --> 00:48:58,360 I promise to get out by the 31st. 1094 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,480 [interviewer] What’s your worst fear at the moment? 1095 00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:04,440 That we have nowhere to live. 1096 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:05,840 That we have no money. I literally-- 1097 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:07,840 you know, it’s really, really difficult. 1098 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,080 [Alexandra] I’ve really tried to shield children. 1099 00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,400 I’ve told them that... 1100 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,120 the Russian government has taken the house. 1101 00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:17,880 But they know that I don’t know 1102 00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:18,960 where we’ll live. 1103 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:20,440 They know that... 1104 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:25,200 um... 1105 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:27,560 Yeah, it is really difficult. 1106 00:49:28,240 --> 00:49:29,280 It’s a nightmare. 1107 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:32,880 [crying] Sorry. 1108 00:49:42,240 --> 00:49:43,320 [narrator] An opportunity to make 1109 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:44,880 some money had emerged 1110 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,360 when Alexandra was approached by Russian TV, 1111 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,800 asking her to tell her story. 1112 00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,440 -[crowd applauding] -[presenter in Russian] 1113 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,160 [narrator] It was Channel One, 1114 00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:02,640 the premier channel of state-owned television, 1115 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:04,200 Putin’s channel. 1116 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:05,880 Alexandra was paid 1117 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,520 a five-figure sum for her appearance. 1118 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:10,600 She invited the presenter 1119 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:11,800 to the family home. 1120 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:13,400 [Alexandra in Russian] 1121 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,320 [narrator] Inspired by shows like Jerry Springer, 1122 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,720 Let Them Talk invites celebrity guests to come 1123 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:25,880 before a studio audience and a panel 1124 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,280 who pick over their personal lives 1125 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:29,880 and then pass judgement. 1126 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:31,600 [Alexandra] Before the programme, 1127 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:32,720 Sergei had been telling a lot 1128 00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:34,280 of untrue things about me in the press, 1129 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:35,720 that I worked for the KGB, 1130 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,040 that I was only after his money, 1131 00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:41,200 that I kidnapped his children. 1132 00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:42,520 [Alexandra] You know, terrible things. 1133 00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:44,920 So I wanted to do it. 1134 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:47,600 [presenter in Russian] 1135 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,000 [Alexandra in Russian] 1136 00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:23,040 [presenter] 1137 00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,200 [Alexandra] 1138 00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:27,440 [crowd applauding] 1139 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,200 [presenter] 1140 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,160 [narrator] What Alexandra didn’t realise 1141 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,840 was that she was walking into a trap. 1142 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:39,120 [Alexandra] 1143 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:41,960 [presenter] 1144 00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:08,320 -[Alexandra] -[snickering] 1145 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:10,560 -[sound of disbelief] -[male panelist] 1146 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:12,520 [presenter] 1147 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:19,760 [Alexandra] 1148 00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:24,160 [presenter] 1149 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:25,920 [audience applauding] 1150 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:31,160 [presenter] 1151 00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:42,440 [Sergei in Russian] 1152 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:45,640 [presenter] 1153 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:50,880 [Sergei] 1154 00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:53,880 [presenter] 1155 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:28,960 -[sniffs] -[Sergei] 1156 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,280 [narrator] It was a dramatic fall from grace 1157 00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:36,800 for the former golden couple, 1158 00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:38,600 the fairy-tale 1159 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:39,680 over. 1160 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:43,840 -[crowd cheering] -[rink announcer] Your new... 1161 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:45,160 champions! 1162 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:46,800 [brass fanfare] 1163 00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,240 [narrator] Putin has now been in power for 20 years, 1164 00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:53,760 now not just a president 1165 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:56,400 but a celebrity with adoring fans. 1166 00:53:57,640 --> 00:53:59,160 -[crowd cheering] -[announcer speaking in Russian] 1167 00:54:00,720 --> 00:54:01,880 [narrator] Enemies of the state 1168 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:03,960 have found it hard to survive. 1169 00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:07,600 [airy string and balalaika music] 1170 00:54:09,240 --> 00:54:10,520 [pool balls clacking] 1171 00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,720 [narrator] Russia continues to pursue Sergei 1172 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:15,520 for the missing billion dollars. 1173 00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,440 But after five years, Sergei’s lawsuit 1174 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,280 for the loss of his assets has finally reached 1175 00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:23,840 the international courtroom. 1176 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,920 Sergei Pugachev versus the Russian Federation. 1177 00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,000 -[thud] -[balls clack] 1178 00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:33,360 [narrator] It’s now just weeks until Sergei finds out 1179 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,080 the result of his legal action. 1180 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:36,880 Even if he wins, 1181 00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:38,760 it may take years 1182 00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:39,880 to get his money back. 1183 00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:42,040 [Luke] Sergei, 1184 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:43,520 he’s in the South of France. 1185 00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,120 He told me he was down to his last 70 million dollars. 1186 00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:48,920 But actually, 70 million dollars doesn’t sound too bad. 1187 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:52,360 [Luke] But generally, 1188 00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,240 if you’re an oligarch and you fall from power, 1189 00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:56,360 you can guarantee you'll spend the next 20 years 1190 00:54:56,440 --> 00:54:57,600 with your lawyers. 1191 00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:59,800 [narrator] Sergei now lives alone, 1192 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,480 a decision he feels he was forced into 1193 00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:04,240 by the Russian state. 1194 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:05,320 [Sergei in Russian] 1195 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,040 [Sergei] 1196 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,200 [narrator] Alone in the chateau, 1197 00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:25,600 Sergei has started to think 1198 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:27,960 about life beyond the court case. 1199 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:30,120 [Alexandra] Come on, darling. 1200 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:32,400 You okay? 1201 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:35,680 [Sergei in Russian] 1202 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,080 [interviewer] How is that going to happen, do you think? 1203 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:52,680 [translator] 1204 00:55:58,360 --> 00:55:59,520 [suspended string chords] 1205 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,000 [Alexandra] There's mud everywhere. [laughs] 1206 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,000 [narrator] These days, Alexandra and the children spend 1207 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,080 whatever time they can at her cottage in Oxfordshire. 1208 00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:14,360 She’s been advised by a lawyer 1209 00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:16,840 not to take the children to France. 1210 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,080 -[children laughing] -[interviewer] What do you tell 1211 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:20,360 the children? 1212 00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,360 [Alexandra] It’s imperative you tell the truth. 1213 00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:24,280 Of course, they’ve asked me. 1214 00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:26,320 They’ve stopped asking now, but they did ask, 1215 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:27,600 ‘Why does he never come here?’ 1216 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:28,680 So I told them, 1217 00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:30,880 ‘Well, he has a prison sentence here because... 1218 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,760 he was in court, and they told him, 1219 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,240 "You can’t leave the country," and he did. 1220 00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:37,840 So he would go to prison if he came here.’ 1221 00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:39,640 And then they’ve said, ‘Well why can’t we go there?’ 1222 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,360 And I also told the truth. I said, 1223 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,960 ‘It’s dangerous.' You know, his life’s under threat. 1224 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:46,480 [Alexandra] Keep the logs a-burning now. 1225 00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:48,480 [sparse guitar chords] 1226 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:53,880 [Alexandra] My hand on my heart, 1227 00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,360 I have never said to my children 1228 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:56,720 one bad word about him. 1229 00:56:56,800 --> 00:56:57,800 I haven’t told them 1230 00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,600 ever that he treated me badly. 1231 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:00,840 Nothing. 1232 00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:01,960 Um-- 1233 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:03,360 [interviewer] They may see this film one day. 1234 00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:05,720 I know, but I’m going to obviously be 1235 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,120 very, very careful about when they’re told. 1236 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:13,760 Just say... 1237 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,880 you know, 'He needs to sort out 1238 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,520 this situation that he’s in,' 1239 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:21,960 and 'It’s not your fault... 1240 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,600 and maybe when you’re older, 1241 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:27,400 you can go and find him yourself.' 1242 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,840 [narrator] Alexandra has returned to her old life, 1243 00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:37,360 leading horse-riding expeditions across Kyrgyzstan 1244 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:39,800 and making regular trips to Russia. 1245 00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:41,840 [Alexandra] I love Russia so much, 1246 00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:42,920 and... 1247 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,440 weirdly, my relationship 1248 00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:47,720 with the Russian government is better [laughs lightly] 1249 00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:49,520 than it is with Sergei. 1250 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,240 [narrator] She’s cast off the oligarch wardrobe 1251 00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:54,920 and the life that went with it. 1252 00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:56,400 [interviewer] Do you remember when you showed me 1253 00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,920 around through your place in London in 2015, 1254 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:00,920 and you showed me your shoe cupboard 1255 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,640 and your handbag cupboard? 1256 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:04,120 [Alexandra] Actually, do you know what? I hate 1257 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,760 all those things now. I just feel 1258 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:08,280 they’re associated with a life I didn’t like. 1259 00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:10,480 [Alexandra] I find them vulgar. 1260 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:11,560 I find they're just 1261 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:12,960 not me. 1262 00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:17,720 [Alexandra] You know, as an adult, you can 1263 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,960 lose yourself, and I really didn’t believe that. 1264 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:21,200 I never thought... 1265 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:23,960 ever thought I could lose myself. 1266 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,520 But I'm 45. I'm not so old, 1267 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,720 and, really, I have a whole life ahead of me. 1268 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,400 I can go back to the things I love. 1269 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:33,440 And this is who I am. 1270 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:37,440 Sergei never, never 1271 00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,480 expected me to be strong enough 1272 00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:40,760 to stay on my own. 1273 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,480 He always thought I would be 1274 00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,400 so desperate to be with his money and him 1275 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:45,960 that I would follow him. 1276 00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:51,120 And actually, I’ve come through it. 1277 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:54,840 And I have the strength to do it. 1278 00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:01,120 [closing theme music] 93493

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