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[sparse piano melody and walking bass notes]
[narrator] It was an idyllic life:
wealth beyond anyone’s wildest dreams,
homes across the world,
a chateau in the South of France.
Countess Alexandra Tolstoy,
an aristocratic English rose
living a fairy-tale.
The man of her dreams:
billionaire Sergei Pugachev,
an oligarch,
one of Russia’s richest men.
Yet it’s all about to come crashing down.
Once a friend and ally of Vladimir Putin,
Sergei has fallen foul of the Russian president.
[Sergei] A lot of people call me:
‘They want to kill you. Be careful.’
[narrator] He’s on the Kremlin’s hit list,
and enemies of the state can find it hard to hide.
[explosion booms]
[narrator] So what happens when Russia turns on you
in this dangerous and murderous world?
[Ben Brown] Some breaking news,
and a murder investigation has been launched
into the death of another Russian
on British soil.
[narrator] What happens to the fairy-tale
[Sergei]
[narrator] ...and to the love?
[presenter]
[Alexandra] It’s a nightmare.
[crying] Sorry.
[sparse string and piano music]
[upbeat strummed music]
[narrator] This story begins five years ago.
[Alexandra] Darling, you want to have a scone?
[Ivan] Yes.
[Alexandra] Do you want strawberry jam
or blackberry jam or raspberry?
[Ivan] Um, strawberry.
[narrator] It was supposed to be
the tale of the Russian oligarch...
[Alexandra] Do you want to go and sit down?
[narrator] ...Sergei Pugachev,
willing to take a stand against Vladimir Putin,
and his partner,
the mother of their three children,
Alexandra Tolstoy.
But the story that unfolded was one
that neither of them could have predicted.
[children's laughter, footsteps, and chatter]
[narrator] Back then, Alexandra and her three children
were living a life of enviable luxury.
[footsteps clomping] Catch me.
Now you have to catch me.
[Alexandra] We have a PA,
two drivers, two housekeepers.
We have our lovely English nanny,
who's a very old-fashioned, kind of...
Downton Abbey-type English nanny.
Then we have our Russian nanny.
And then every afternoon,
we have to have a French teacher who comes for an hour
to do my son’s homework because it’s in French [laughs]
and I don’t really speak French.
[woman speaking in foreign language]
[Alexandra] So we moved here.
Just had our first baby,
but then we bought the house next door.
I don’t know why I thought we didn’t really need it.
But actually,
now I can’t really imagine
how we could have all squeezed in.
[narrator] The family has a globe-trotting lifestyle,
but it’s the Chelsea House they call home.
[Alexandra] This is meant to be the more formal part.
It’s quite unusual because these were all
artists' studios,
so up here is our bedroom.
I absolutely love it because it’s got
these huge windows.
It’s very unusual to have this sort of lateral space in London.
Bryan Ferry is our neighbour, just up the road.
We have this, and then other one is
the children’s part, really.
Apparently, Helena Bonham Carter lives
like that, where they have--
she has one house,
and her--her husband has
another house, next to each other.
We have an adult house,
and they have a children’s house. [laughs]
It’s really kind of a fun way to live.
Oh, I'll show you my handbag cupboard.
So my weakness is Chanel. [laughs lightly]
[interviewer] It’s filed.
[Alexandra] Yeah, it’s filed!
That’s my amazing housekeeper.
I do love clothes, I have to say.
They're Manolo Blahnik--
[interviewer] Oh, yeah!
[Alexandra] ...who, luckily, is on the next-door street.
Sergei will freak out, but, I mean, there are
[laughs] thousands and thousands of pounds' worth in there.
Just hope my daughter grows up with the same size feet as me.
[Alexandra] When I met Sergei, it was electric,
absolutely electric and amazing,
and I fell so in love with him
and it was so romantic.
This very, very powerful person,
with me, he wanted to be
a completely different person.
[Sergei speaking Russian in video]
[Alexandra] I’d never felt such a connection
to someone, ever.
[Sergei speaking Russian in video]
[Alexandra] It was such a love affair.
[narrator] When Alexandra met Sergei,
he was separated from his first wife.
Now his divorce has finally come through.
[Alexandra] So eight years later
and three children, we are very keen
that we should get married.
I’d love to make it as big a deal as possible,
and Sergei would like to make it as small a deal [laughs]
as possible, probably.
But he does though, he says that,
and then when we actually have the party, he loves it.
[Alexandra] I’ve had a few, and he loves them.
So hopefully, we will get married in the South of France.
It’s so beautiful and...
amazing weather.
Yeah, so I think in June would be great.
[moderate plucked and accordion music]
[narrator] But the man she plans to marry
isn’t just any old billionaire.
[Sergei in Russian]
[narrator] Sergei Pugachev is reputed to be
number three on the Kremlin’s hit list
and is living a secret life in France.
Only a handful of his closest aides
know his movements at any one time.
[Sergei in Russian]
[muted trumpet melody]
[military boots marching]
[narrator] Sergei Pugachev had amassed his vast fortune
in post-communist Russia.
He had a coalmine,
shipyards,
designer brands.
He even had his own bank.
[Luke] If you have a bank in Russia in the 1990s,
you can take advantage
of all the capital pouring in to the new Russia.
And then, uh, life is very shiny indeed.
[narrator] He was the archetypal oligarch.
[Oliver] Pugachev wasn’t quite in the top 600 richest men
in the world, right? But he was just outside.
That’s a serious achievement.
You know, if you think about
how many people there are in the world,
he was in the top thousand.
Yeah, that’s--that's going some
for a boy from the Soviet Union.
[upbeat men's chorus singing in Russian]
[narrator] Sergei’s huge wealth has bought him a chateau
in the French Riviera
and a lifestyle he could only have dreamed of
as the child of a military family
from St. Petersburg.
[Sergei] This is cool.
It’s me.
It’s me. It’s my first Rolls Royce.
My first. [laughs]
[Sergei] I opened my first bank in Soviet Union in 1991.
I gave a lot of loans to government.
It was a lot of money.
It was millions, and people say,
‘Okay, it was like Putin’s banker.’
[narrator] When Sergei was making his first billions,
the man at the top was Boris Yeltsin.
When it became clear that he was on his way out,
Sergei and the other oligarchs wanted
to protect their fortunes.
[Luke] The oligarchs wanted to keep all of their assets,
and they wanted someone they thought
they could kind of puppet.
They eventually lighted on a rather charmless,
small,
not-very-well-known,
pale-faced
spy, or former spy,
called Vladimir Vladimirovitch Putin,
who went from being a kind of functionary
in the property department to being the head
or the successor to the KGB, the FSB,
to Prime Minister to President
in the scope of two years.
[Putin in Russian]
[Luke] It was a meteoric ascent,
and Sergei Pugachev was someone
who helped push Putin up the stairs.
[Sergei]
[interviewer] You went on holiday together?
[Sergei]
[narrator] Sergei cemented his power
by becoming a senator in the upper house
of the Russian parliament.
Before long, he’d become
one of Putin’s most trusted advisers.
But then,
he fell in love.
[Sergei] And maybe I will show you
something interesting.
[Sergei] I met her in 2008.
[interviewer] So that’s the first photo
-of you two together? -[Sergei] Yes.
[Sergei] So happy.
[Alexandra] And when I first went to see Sergei
in Moscow,
he was...
one of the most important
and influential people
in the whole of Russia.
[saxophone waltz melody[
[Alexandra] It was, you know, this James Bond kind of office,
where you go through, uh, like, glass doors,
they snap behind you, and then you go through the second ones,
and then, like, guards with Kalashnikovs.
You are escorted to, like,
this special metal-reinforced lift,
and you go up, and it's a secret zone,
where no one else can enter,
and this was his daily life.
[narrator] Alexandra had been hired
to help Sergei improve his English.
[Sergei] She helped me to...
to speak in English, just, like, practice,
not like...
like teacher.
She came to my office.
You know...
[narrator] But the appearance of Countess Alexandra Tolstoy
on the scene of Moscow’s ruling elite
did not impress everyone.
[Alexandra] There’s a law in Russia
that says a senator cannot marry a foreigner.
Sergei says that many of these problems
that have arisen with the Russian government
and Putin
are because he’s with me.
And Putin himself was--
has said to Sergei at some point,
‘You are a traitor. Why are you with this English person?’
[Sergei]
[Sergei]
[narrator] When Sergei met Alexandra,
life was good.
Within a year of meeting,
they had a baby,
and before long, another on the way
and were living a life of luxury
in Moscow,
London, and Paris.
[Alexandra] So from 2008 or 9,
it was...
incredible. I used to go and stay
in the George V with my--
you know, my lovely little baby.
He’d give me his credit card.
I’d go down the Avenue de Montaigne.
I’d go shopping.
[Alexandra] I could do what I liked.
I had a private jet.
I just had to pack my suitcase, and then I could go.
I remember doing up our house in Moscow,
and I wanted these very specific cast-iron radiators.
And I just put ten on a private jet, and then--
you know, and I would never have got them to Moscow.
[narrator] Alexandra and Sergei moved
between an array of properties.
There was the £12 million family home
they were renovating in Battersea,
a 200-acre country estate in Herefordshire,
and then in the Caribbean,
a beachfront villa costing $40 million.
[Alexandra] Sergei suddenly said,
‘Oh, let’s go to St. Barts in the Carribean.'
Then when we were there, he just went and walked
into an estate agency and said,
‘I want to buy a house.’ [laughs lightly]
And then he bought the best house on the island.
It was on the best beach.
It had a massive beachfront.
It was incredible.
[splash]
[Alexandra] I would go there each spring for three months,
and we took with us our housekeeper, nanny,
bodyguard, doctor.
All that money meant that I didn’t have to work,
I didn’t have to clean,
that I could spend
as much time as possible with my children.
-[Sergei] Hello. -[Alexandra] Hello, my babies!
[Alexandra] Of course I enjoyed it.
He just made me feel incredibly protected and safe.
[narrator] But though the good times rolled
around the world for Sergei and Alexandra,
back in Russia,
the mood had long since changed.
[military boots marching]
[narrator] Vladimir Putin had turned
against his former oligarch allies.
[Vladimir Putin in Russian]
[narrator] When President Putin summoned
the oligarchs to a meeting,
Sergei was amongst those present.
But it was Mikhail Khodorkovsky,
the richest man in Russia,
who hit back about state corruption.
Later, he’d pay the price,
sent to prison for ten years.
Within months, the Russian government passed
a new law giving its agents
a license to kill enemies of the state
anywhere in the world.
It wasn’t long before Putin’s attentions
turned to Sergei
and his billions.
[Luke] Essentially, there was a cooling.
Pugachev, who was seeing Putin daily--
he was seeing him less often.
[Luke] So they hadn’t fallen out,
but he was moving to the edge of Putin’s circle.
And generally, when that happens,
that--that doesn’t end well.
[Sergei]
[interviewer] Could he have been threatened
by your success, do you think?
[Sergei] Yes, sure. Yeah.
[narrator] If Putin was growing suspicious of Sergei,
he would soon have good reason.
In 2008, Sergei’s bank hit problems,
and the Russian state bailed it out
with a billion-dollar loan.
Two years later, the bank still went under
with no sign of what happened to the loan.
Sergei claims he’d sold the bank many years earlier,
but Russia disagreed.
In court,
he was found liable for the bank’s losses.
They said the bailout money had gone
into a Swiss bank account
and then was moved around
until, eventually,
all one billion
simply vanished.
Sergei fled Russia.
[Oliver] If Pugachev had stayed in Russia,
he would probably be jailed,
and he would be vulnerable.
[Oliver] Saying that Pugachev is innocent or guilty,
it--it’s just irrelevant.
If he did do something,
that just made it easier for the prosecutors.
If he didn’t do something, they could’ve
invented it anyway.
-[loud thud] -[Oliver] The Russian state is
best thought of as a mafia organisation.
It's very good at getting what it wants.
It’s very good at harassing people.
It’s very good at imprisoning people,
It’s very good at killing people.
[Oliver] So yeah, leaving the country is
a sensible survival strategy.
It’s not sufficient because some people
outside the country have been murdered,
but it’s sensible.
[narrator] In Nice, Sergei’s chateau proves to be
the most luxurious of hideaways.
[cook] Would you like steamed salmon?
-[Sergei] Smoked salmon. -[cook] And not steamed?
[Sergei] Yeah, no. Smoked. Thank you.
[narrator] But Sergei is now
an enemy of the Russian state
and claims he’s already had his first taste of this.
He says he’s been visited
by Russia’s Deposit Insurance Agency,
or DIA,
demanding repayment
for the billion-dollar loan.
[Sergei]
[interviewer] And were you frightened?
[narrator] The DIA deny this ever happened.
What’s certain is Sergei refused
to pay the money.
-[live marching band music] -[synchronized footsteps]
[narrator] Over the next few years,
enemies of the Russian state
would continue to fall.
[news anchor 1] This is the affluent community
in Southern England.
It was here that wealthy Russian exile
and whistle-blower Alexander Perepilichny
dropped dead while jogging.
Traces of an extremely toxic plant
in his stomach appear to have been found.
[news anchor 2] Boris Berezovsky died by hanging,
British police say.
The 67-year-old was found dead in a locked bathroom
at his home at the weekend.
He was a one-time ally of Vladimir Putin,
but in 2000, he started to speak out
against the Russian president
and exiled himself in the UK.
[news anchor 3] Boris Nemtsov was shot
four times in the back,
in the shadow of the Kremlin.
Mr. Nemtsov was due to lead a rally
against Putin tomorrow.
Opposition figures point
to the Russian authorities being involved.
[Oliver] The Russian government
kills people if it can’t get to them
any other way.
There have been a lot of business people
with Russian connections whose deaths are...
mysterious.
[Oliver] You shouldn’t infer from that
that everyone is going to be a victim
of state-sponsored assassination.
But if I had fallen out with the Kremlin,
I would be nervous.
Once one assassination has happened,
you start looking over your shoulder all the time.
[narrator] By 2015,
Sergei is living as a permanent exile,
dividing his time between France
and the family home in London.
[boys chatting]
[narrator] But Russia’s DIA is closing in
and using the British courts
to pursue Sergei and the missing billion dollars.
His passports have been seized,
his assets frozen worldwide,
and the family’s become aware
they’re being followed.
Surveillance footage shows
how closely they're being watched.
[Alexandra] That was my birthday,
and Sergei was buying me some flowers
just off the King’s Road,
and two guys jumped out of a car, like, harassed him.
[tense ambient tone]
[Alexandra] He was with his bodyguard,
and his bodyguard pushed them away,
and Sergei drove off.
And he called me, and he said,
'I’ve just been, like, harassed by two people,
and I’m not coming to dinner.'
I called immediately Alexandra:
‘Be careful.
Be at home,
and stay there.
Don’t move.
We have to check what happened.’
[Sergei] A lot of people called me:
'Look, you know that...
they want-- they want to kill you.
Be careful.’
It’s very, very...
uh, dangerous.
[Alexandra] I came home that night, and...
Sergei did not come back for three days,
and I didn’t hear from him, and I didn’t know where he was.
[narrator] In fact, the men following Sergei were
lawyers for Russia’s DIA,
trying to serve him with court papers.
But it didn’t stop there.
[Alexandra] Then the next day,
I went to my boys’ sports day,
and a mother came up to me, and she went
‘Oh my God, I’m so sorry to hear about you.’
And I went, ‘What?’
She went, ‘Oh, did you not read this article in the paper?’
[Alexandra] The police discovered GPS trackers
on every single one of my cars
including the car only, only used
by me and my children.
And...
they were saying that maybe two of them were bombs.
[narrator] An investigation by the Met Police confirmed
they weren’t bombs, but they were
hidden trackers.
[narrator] Sergei didn’t wait to find out.
Without his passport,
he needed to get out of Britain quickly
and in secret.
[interviewer] How did you leave the country?
How did you get away?
Mmm, somebody helped me.
[interviewer] You are not saying?
No.
[narrator] It’s the summer of 2015.
Sergei remains in hiding at his chateau in Nice,
increasingly, his fortress
as well as his home.
[Sergei] It was my...
salon rouge for my guests,
for everybody, but right now,
it’s just my children’s, yeah, room.
It’s different.
[interviewer] So this is the, kind of, formal guest room?
[Sergei] It was. Yeah. Not now.
[narrator] Sergei’s been summoned
to the High Court in London,
accused of leaving the UK without permission.
And more than this,
he’s missing Alexandra and the children
back in Britain.
[interviewer] Do you think they're safe in London?
[Sergei] Nobody knows.
Nobody knows. It’s--
life is life, but it’s...
maybe we will fix it, but...
nobody knows when.
[interviewer] But you--well, for the moment it’s a worry?
Of course, sure.
Of course. Every time, every day.
[suspended ambient tone]
[moderate piano music]
[narrator] It’s autumn,
and Sergei’s heading for Paris
with a high-risk strategy.
He’s going head-to-head with the Russian state
and suing them for the loss of his business assets.
[news programme theme music]
[in Russian]
[news anchor in Russian]
[narrator] Today Sergei will announce
his multibillion-dollar lawsuit against the Russian state.
Alexandra’s come to support him at the press conference.
[Alexandra] I do feel very frightened for--
especially for Sergei’s safety
but also for mine and the children
because...
there have been such terrible cases of murder,
especially in London.
[Alexandra] I know a few days ago he had a bad incident
in Paris, where...
he was driving a car, and two cars tried to...
you know, squash his car.
[Alexandra] But, you know, I chose him,
and...
I chose a very riskful life, so...
And I love him, so...
it’s my choice. [laughs lightly]
[narrator] Sergei’s hotel, factories, and shipyards have
all been seized,
and he’s accused of stealing
from the bank he once owned,
but he's refusing to lay low.
[Sergei’s litigation advisor] We are very pleased to announce
that Mr. Pugachev has successfully
registered his claim against the Russian Federation
for damages in excess of ten billion US dollars.
[tense ambient tones]
[Sergei’s litigation advisor] The regime now in Russia has
a history of intimidation.
When they want you, they go for you,
and they don’t care how they go for you.
[advisor] And you gotta not lose your resolve,
and then you end up with nothing.
But frankly, they took almost everything,
so once you have nothing, you fight for everything.
And Sergei will fight for everything.
[advisor] And it’s more human than people realise.
Alexandra’s being watched. She knows it.
So...
Alexandra is stressed.
She's worried about Sergei.
What kind of pressure is he under?
How are my children taken care of?
You can’t talk a lot about what’s going on,
but the children are saying, ‘Where’s Papa?’
Right?
[Alexandra] I don’t talk about our arrangements on the phone.
I don’t even tell--I mean, I’ll my friends where I am,
but you know, I’m very careful.
Even my parents, I don’t tell too much.
[Alexandra] I have periods of being terribly anxious,
but then-- and I’m not going to leave him,
so...
what can I do?
[crows cawing]
[narrator] Alexandra’s life has moved a long way
from the one her parents had envisaged for her,
from their family home in the English countryside.
[introductory accordion notes]
[narrator] Her father is Count Nikolai Tolstoy,
a distant cousin of the author Leo Tolstoy.
The family have inherited Russian titles.
[Nikolai] Here is where I work.
[narrator] Count Tolstoy is an author and historian.
[Nikolai] That’s the--a book I wrote
on the history of our family.
And in fact, there's-- oh look at that.
There you can see they were all quite little.
There's Alexandra among them.
[Georgina] She likes exciting things.
She likes adventure.
She doesn’t really go for--
necessarily for security.
I mean, I always remember when she--
she begged and begged us to go away to boarding school,
which was not what we had planned at all,
especially for the girls.
And you know I said, ‘Why, why do you?’
and she said, ‘Why, I just love the adventure.
I just want to go.’
And...
she was, um...
yeah, she wasn’t always
very conforming at school, but...
[laughs]
she certainly loved it at Downham House, yes.
[narrator] Alexandra went
from an elite boarding school to working
as a broker in the city
before embarking on a decade of Russian adventures.
While Sergei was building his empire,
Alexandra was in another world entirely.
[horses' hooves clopping]
[narrator] She started a travel business
and rode by horseback
through the former Soviet Union,
Turkmenistan, Kyrgysztan, and beyond.
But then came love,
a handsome man on horseback:
Shamil,
a penniless cossack.
Salud.
[narrator] It was, by any account,
an extraordinary match.
They even took part in a documentary
about unlikely couples, which featured them
in Shamil’s tiny flat in Uzbekistan.
[Alexandra] And this is the bathroom...
[Shamil speaking in foreign language]
[Alexandra] ...which Shamil says that he's washing.
[Shamil speaking in foreign language]
[Alexandra] And...
this is the kitchen.
[up-tempo plucked music]
[Shamil speaking in foreign language]
[Alexandra] Mm? [Shamil laughs]
[Alexandra] Uh, this is where we cook,
on this tiny little stove.
[narrator] Unfortunately,
it didn’t last.
A few years later,
when Alexandra and Shamil were struggling
to make ends meet,
along came a knight in shining armour.
[Alexandra] When I met Sergei,
I wasn’t happy in my marriage,
and I’d had a very, very stressful time.
Sergei felt like this saviour coming in.
I talked with him for hours and hours on the phone.
I just didn’t want to be with anyone else.
And I don’t think that in my life
I’d ever felt that before.
[interviewer] Did you like him when you met him?
[Nikolai] Yes, yes.
He was very modest.
There was nothing
Sir Philip Green about him
[laughs lightly] remotely.
And I still picture him with Alexei, the youngest,
wheeling out his pushchair to the, um,
village shop to go and buy some sweets or something.
There isn’t many people
of his wealth that would do that.
[Georgina] Well, I said to Alexandra
on the phone before we’d even met him,
I said, ‘You know,
you're so used to your freedom.
You love riding.
Have you actually thought what’s gonna happen, you know?
I can imagine that somebody like that
is gonna be jealous,
that they’re going to want to keep you in a gilded cage.
[Georgina] You know, they’re so used to
having what they want
and getting what they want.’
And she said, ‘Oh, well, you know,
you don’t understand. We're so in love.’
And...
I was--yeah, I was really worried.
I thought...
'Do you really know what you're doing?'
[ambient chords]
[narrator] It’s December 2015,
and Alexandra is at home in Chelsea
when on the instructions of the High Court,
three police officers arrive late at night
looking for Sergei.
[Alexandra] They said, ‘We have
a search and arrest warrant for Sergei Pugachev.
If you don’t let us in now,
we will knock the door down.’
[Alexandra] So I was on my own, you know,
with the children and my nanny.
So I had to let them in.
So they literally looked
everywhere, every cupboard, every bathroom, every room.
Even they looked, um, under here.
[Alexandra] It used to be a cellar, but it’s where we have
the boiler.
[Alexandra] Looked in cupboards in the children’s room.
I was very, very upset because my children were there,
and I don’t want them,
you know, to hear anything like that.
It’s very traumatic.
It’s a method of intimidation,
just as it was when they put GPS trackers on our cars.
It’s to frighten me and to frighten my children...
to get at Sergei, and I--
It’s just really, really unpleasant.
I’m a British citizen, and I have done nothing.
[Oliver] The Russian prosecution agency is--
it's like a-- the mob enforcement wing.
[Oliver] And they use all the tools at their disposal,
whether those tools are legal tools or extra-legal tools.
Whatever is the tool for the moment,
they will use it.
[narrator] Two months on,
Russia is continuing to use
the High Court to pursue Sergei
and the missing billion dollars.
Alone in London,
Alexandra fears she'll be caught up in the case,
so she's leaving the country with the children.
[Alexandra] I'd love to see the swimming costumes, I think.
[Alexandra] It’s just so, so frightening
what’s happening to us, and I feel so out of control.
[Alexandra] When I met Sergei, I was a very relaxed person,
very, very happy,
very reckless and carefree,
and probably, you know,
my life has ended up like this because of that.
[interviewer] Do you regret?
No, because I love my children so much.
How could I regret it? And I do--
of course, I love Sergei.
I do really love him, and I feel like...
No, I don’t regret. It’s more that I regret--
sometimes I look back, and we've had a very,
very turbulent relationship,
and I feel
regret for my children that it wasn’t,
sort of, more peaceful and calm.
Sometimes I just want to cry. I feel like...
[Alexandra] And I think some people look at me
and they think, ‘Oh, I'll bet your life’s so easy,'
you know, and 'Your lucky children,
they are so privileged.'
But they are not, you know. The most...
privileged upbringing is
to live in a safe and secure and happy...
family unit, which is together.
[narrator] Alexandra’s taken the children out of school.
Their flight is booked.
They're leaving tonight.
[Alexandra] Darling, shall we decide
what we’ve got to pack from here?
[son angrily] Hmph!
[Alexandra] I’m a bit worried about how much--
Oh my goodness.
[Alexandra] We're going for six weeks, seven weeks.
I can’t say where we're going
because of security.
You know, it’s too dangerous to say where we are going.
And we're going because...
we very much hope that Sergei can be there with us.
Obviously, he can’t come here.
And...
also, I think Sergei,
he wants me out of the country for a while.
[Alexandra] They don’t want me to be called as a witness.
Sergei feels it’s, like, a terrible invasion, and...
again, intimidation,
and he doesn’t want me to be subjected to that.
And so far, he’s been very protective of me,
and, you know, not...
telling me things in order to protect me.
[Alexandra] I would rather not go to court. [laughs]
And I don’t want to be torn apart
in a sort of public way.
[Alexandra] So he'll come for a bit,
or maybe the whole thing. I don’t know.
But he doesn’t even tell me on the telephone.
[somber solo piano music]
[Sergei on phone in Russian]
[child in Russian]
[Alexandra] And I feel really sorry for Sergei because...
you know, he’s been forcibly separated
from his own family.
Awful, because he adores--
you know, it’s not like he’s not really into--
Maybe some men like that are not really into their children,
but he is really, really into his children.
Aw.
I have to be philosophical and think that...
It can only get better. [laughs lightly]
Well, hope so.
[narrator] In fact,
it would get so much worse.
Later that month,
the High Court sentences Sergei
to two years in prison for leaving the country
without permission.
If he sets foot in the UK now,
he’ll go straight to jail.
Sergei never made it to the secret location
to join Alexandra,
but she and the children visit him regularly
at the chateau in France.
[up-tempo string bass rhythm]
[narrator] With Sergei now permanently in hiding,
the threat from Russia hangs over the couple.
[bass melody continues with drums]
[narrator] It’s difficult for them to move far
beyond the confines of the chateau,
putting huge pressure on their relationship.
[interviewer] Where do you think you and Sergei
are at your happiest?
Sergei is happiest here. [laughs]
-[Sergei laughs] No. -Um...
[Sergei]
[Alexandra] No, but you are. I think you are happiest here.
[Sergei]
[Alexandra laughs]
-[Sergei] -[Alexandra] No, I'm happy here,
but it’s--
along with feeling very safe,
it feels quite isolated as well.
[Alexandra] So I find it difficult then.
[Sergei] Yeah.
-[laughing] To be isolated? -[Sergei] Yeah.
-[pool balls crash] -[Sergei] Hmm.
[Alexandra] I think Sergei loves the feeling of security,
and also he’s just by nature quite a loner,
so he loves to be...
with his family alone,
feeling secure. You know, he hasn’t been
out of the house for two weeks
he told me, since I last came here,
and he doesn’t mind.
-[Sergei disappointed] Ugh. -[Alexandra groans]
[Alexandra] I suppose I just feel concerned about...
how our future as a family works.
[narrator] Alexandra and Sergei must decide
whether to uproot the family
to live all together in France.
[Sergei in Russian]
[interviewer] How does that feel
for you to be here and the family to be in London?
Horrible, of course.
We have to be together.
[suspended string chords]
[Alexandra] To be brutal, I can’t live here.
You know, and I’ve had to think about it a lot.
I just would feel too
claustrophobic and enclosed
and isolated.
It’s about feeling isolated, and I just--
I couldn’t do it.
[suspended ambient tones]
[Alexandra] I still find it,
the whole situation, very...
stressful, really,
because it’s still so undecided.
You know, Sergei wants us to live here. I just...
don’t know if I can do that, really.
And...
you know, everything in life is--
you’re able to cope with,
and I think what it is, if you have
an idea of what will happen--
but I just have no idea,
and I find that very stressful...
[Alexandra] that I can’t plan or predict or...
envisage what will happen.
[narrator] Alexandra left the chateau abruptly
in the spring of 2016,
taking the children with her.
They would never return.
[birds chirping]
[narrator] Back in England,
Alexandra still seems shocked
at the events at the chateau that spring
and the changes brought for the whole family.
Sergei had one of his explosions
where he...
physically attacked me.
[Alexandra] He locked the children in a room,
separate from me, and he locked my passport
and the children’s passports in his safe.
And he has a gun in his room.
[Alexandra] Something in me just snapped that weekend.
I just said, 'I cannot ever, ever do this again.'
I’m never--I said, 'I can come and visit,
but I’m n--' because at that point,
I was wavering. I felt guilty.
Should I come and live there with him,
or should I not?
But that was...
the--just the end.
I knew we weren’t safe.
I just knew it.
[somber plucked music]
[Sergei in Russian]
[ambient tone swells and recedes]
[narrator] Over the next two years,
the death toll rises
for enemies of the Russian state.
[moderate ambient music]
[explosion booms]
[narrator] Relations between Britain
and Russia reach a new low.
Sergei Skripal,
a former Russian agent who’d fled to the UK,
and his daughter Yulia
are poisoned with a nerve agent,
Novichok,
in the Wiltshire city
of Salisbury.
Though the Skripals eventually recover,
a local resident dies.
[Theresa May] The two individuals
named by the police and CPS
are officers
from the Russian military intelligence service.
-[crowd murmurs] -[May] We will not tolerate
such barbaric attacks
against our country.
[Sir Malcolm Rifkind] I think he certainly allows
aspects of his intelligence network
to take decisions
that in his view will punish people
who have betrayed the Russian Federation.
[Ben Brown] Some breaking news,
and a murder investigation
has been launched into the death
of another Russian on British soil.
[narrator] By 2018,
some 40 Russians
who’ve fallen foul of the Kremlin
have met untimely deaths.
[ambient music ends]
[narrator] In London, Alexandra lives in fear,
but now she seems to have two enemies:
the Russian state
and Sergei.
[interviewer] So this man, how often is he there?
[Alexandra] Oh, he’s there every day, all day,
and he’s been there for about...
six months, more?
He talks really loudly in Russian.
But I do find it very, very odd
because it’s also the kind of style of person
who Sergei would get to spy on us.
[interviewer] It would be hard not to be...
paranoid, given--
[laughing] given everything you’ve been through.
No, I’m very paranoid.
[Alexandra] I went to the Russian government’s
lawyers here,
and I said-- I assumed it was them,
and I said, ‘Oh, are you having me followed?’
And they said, ‘We have
information
that, uh, Sergei has been having you followed.’
[interviewer] Why-- why would he do that though?
[Alexandra] Because, I don’t know now,
but definitely there have been
long phases where he’s absolutely hell-bent on revenge
that I wouldn’t...
go with him to France.
[plucked musical introduction]
[narrator] Now, permanently separated
from Alexandra, Sergei is consumed
by his multibillion-dollar lawsuit
against the Russian state,
whatever the dangers.
[interviewer] Are you on Putin’s hit list?
What number do you think you are?
[Sergei] The--theoretically, in newspapers,
number three,
[laughing] but who knows?
Honestly, I don’t know.
Maybe number one.
[Sergei]
[children having discussion]
[narrator] The children haven’t seen their father
since they left France in 2016.
Alexandra says
Sergei’s cut her off financially.
[toy swords clacking]
[Alexandra] Our relationship is non-existent, I would say,
except...
he occasionally writes very abusive emails.
He’s...
accused me of working with the Russian government.
He’s accused me of being a--
-[interviewer] The government? -Yeah,
he says I’m a KGB spy,
and--
[interviewer] Why does he think that?
[Alexandra] Because I went to the family court
and I sued for maintenance.
Obviously, he never ever paid a penny
of any of that maintenance.
He completely cut us off.
[Alexandra] Okay, did you both brush your teeth?
-[Alexei] Yes. -[Alexandra] Good.
[narrator] On the orders of the High Court,
the family home has been put on the market.
And Alexandra’s been asked to drop her claim
on Sergei’s fortune
in return for a deal.
[Ivan] Why can’t we just put some butter?
[Alexandra] Because if you did, it wouldn’t mix in, would it?
[Alexandra] So the Russian government said to me,
‘Okay, if you agree to waive
your maintenance
and not claim your debt,
we will let you stay in the house for one year.’
What was I meant to do?
I literally-- I either signed the agreement
or I left the house the next day.
[narrator] But this deal with his enemy has simply
fanned the flames for Sergei.
[Sergei in Russian]
[somber solo piano music]
[narrator] Alexandra’s parents seem unsurprised
by the turn of events.
[interviewer] Should we have any sympathy for Sergei?
[Georgina] Yeah, no, I always feel sorry
for somebody who can’t,
you know, see their own children,
but on the other hand, he--
he’s brought the whole thing on himself.
It didn’t need to be like this.
You know, if he’d been remotely compromising
about the thing,
it could have worked out.
You know, Alexandra did always make it clear
that she couldn’t live in France.
But she said that she would take them there.
They could spend their holidays there.
But I think he thought
by cutting her off financially,
that she would be so desperate
that she would end up going there.
And that hasn’t happened.
And I think that has really surprised him, probably.
And it’s something that’s never happened to him before.
He’s never had anybody
not capitulate to...
you know,
what he wanted.
[somber solo piano music]
[interviewer] Do you think he still loves her?
Probably not.
-[interviewer] Probably not? -[Georgiana hums]
Probably now, he’d like to get revenge.
[narrator] Alexandra’s supporting herself
and the children
by writing and reviving
her old travel business.
But the one-year deal with Russia’s lawyers
is coming to an end,
and her time at the house
is running out.
[Alexandra] The house is on the market,
and people come and visit the whole time.
The Russian government, they said,
'You can stay in there as long as the house
doesn’t sell.'
So each month, I sign a document saying
I promise to get out by the 31st.
[interviewer] What’s your worst fear at the moment?
That we have nowhere to live.
That we have no money. I literally--
you know, it’s really, really difficult.
[Alexandra] I’ve really tried to shield children.
I’ve told them that...
the Russian government has taken the house.
But they know that I don’t know
where we’ll live.
They know that...
um...
Yeah, it is really difficult.
It’s a nightmare.
[crying] Sorry.
[narrator] An opportunity to make
some money had emerged
when Alexandra was approached by Russian TV,
asking her to tell her story.
-[crowd applauding] -[presenter in Russian]
[narrator] It was Channel One,
the premier channel of state-owned television,
Putin’s channel.
Alexandra was paid
a five-figure sum for her appearance.
She invited the presenter
to the family home.
[Alexandra in Russian]
[narrator] Inspired by shows like Jerry Springer,
Let Them Talk invites celebrity guests to come
before a studio audience and a panel
who pick over their personal lives
and then pass judgement.
[Alexandra] Before the programme,
Sergei had been telling a lot
of untrue things about me in the press,
that I worked for the KGB,
that I was only after his money,
that I kidnapped his children.
[Alexandra] You know, terrible things.
So I wanted to do it.
[presenter in Russian]
[Alexandra in Russian]
[presenter]
[Alexandra]
[crowd applauding]
[presenter]
[narrator] What Alexandra didn’t realise
was that she was walking into a trap.
[Alexandra]
[presenter]
-[Alexandra] -[snickering]
-[sound of disbelief] -[male panelist]
[presenter]
[Alexandra]
[presenter]
[audience applauding]
[presenter]
[Sergei in Russian]
[presenter]
[Sergei]
[presenter]
-[sniffs] -[Sergei]
[narrator] It was a dramatic fall from grace
for the former golden couple,
the fairy-tale
over.
-[crowd cheering] -[rink announcer] Your new...
champions!
[brass fanfare]
[narrator] Putin has now been in power for 20 years,
now not just a president
but a celebrity with adoring fans.
-[crowd cheering] -[announcer speaking in Russian]
[narrator] Enemies of the state
have found it hard to survive.
[airy string and balalaika music]
[pool balls clacking]
[narrator] Russia continues to pursue Sergei
for the missing billion dollars.
But after five years, Sergei’s lawsuit
for the loss of his assets has finally reached
the international courtroom.
Sergei Pugachev versus the Russian Federation.
-[thud] -[balls clack]
[narrator] It’s now just weeks until Sergei finds out
the result of his legal action.
Even if he wins,
it may take years
to get his money back.
[Luke] Sergei,
he’s in the South of France.
He told me he was down to his last 70 million dollars.
But actually, 70 million dollars doesn’t sound too bad.
[Luke] But generally,
if you’re an oligarch and you fall from power,
you can guarantee you'll spend the next 20 years
with your lawyers.
[narrator] Sergei now lives alone,
a decision he feels he was forced into
by the Russian state.
[Sergei in Russian]
[Sergei]
[narrator] Alone in the chateau,
Sergei has started to think
about life beyond the court case.
[Alexandra] Come on, darling.
You okay?
[Sergei in Russian]
[interviewer] How is that going to happen, do you think?
[translator]
[suspended string chords]
[Alexandra] There's mud everywhere. [laughs]
[narrator] These days, Alexandra and the children spend
whatever time they can at her cottage in Oxfordshire.
She’s been advised by a lawyer
not to take the children to France.
-[children laughing] -[interviewer] What do you tell
the children?
[Alexandra] It’s imperative you tell the truth.
Of course, they’ve asked me.
They’ve stopped asking now, but they did ask,
‘Why does he never come here?’
So I told them,
‘Well, he has a prison sentence here because...
he was in court, and they told him,
"You can’t leave the country," and he did.
So he would go to prison if he came here.’
And then they’ve said, ‘Well why can’t we go there?’
And I also told the truth. I said,
‘It’s dangerous.' You know, his life’s under threat.
[Alexandra] Keep the logs a-burning now.
[sparse guitar chords]
[Alexandra] My hand on my heart,
I have never said to my children
one bad word about him.
I haven’t told them
ever that he treated me badly.
Nothing.
Um--
[interviewer] They may see this film one day.
I know, but I’m going to obviously be
very, very careful about when they’re told.
Just say...
you know, 'He needs to sort out
this situation that he’s in,'
and 'It’s not your fault...
and maybe when you’re older,
you can go and find him yourself.'
[narrator] Alexandra has returned to her old life,
leading horse-riding expeditions across Kyrgyzstan
and making regular trips to Russia.
[Alexandra] I love Russia so much,
and...
weirdly, my relationship
with the Russian government is better [laughs lightly]
than it is with Sergei.
[narrator] She’s cast off the oligarch wardrobe
and the life that went with it.
[interviewer] Do you remember when you showed me
around through your place in London in 2015,
and you showed me your shoe cupboard
and your handbag cupboard?
[Alexandra] Actually, do you know what? I hate
all those things now. I just feel
they’re associated with a life I didn’t like.
[Alexandra] I find them vulgar.
I find they're just
not me.
[Alexandra] You know, as an adult, you can
lose yourself, and I really didn’t believe that.
I never thought...
ever thought I could lose myself.
But I'm 45. I'm not so old,
and, really, I have a whole life ahead of me.
I can go back to the things I love.
And this is who I am.
Sergei never, never
expected me to be strong enough
to stay on my own.
He always thought I would be
so desperate to be with his money and him
that I would follow him.
And actually, I’ve come through it.
And I have the strength to do it.
[closing theme music]
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