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- Tonight, the "Married At First Sight"

Denver reunion continues.

- There are liars, and there are truth tellers.

- This is my first experience with being gaslit like this.

- Oh, my God. - No.

- Last time, the entire Denver cast

returned to reveal what happened

on and off camera during their unforgettable season.

- Us four girls have been lied to so many times.

Cameron was, like, the initiator.

- Oh, man, I love the lies.

- That's why there's tension.

- You guys could have said no at any point.

- I wanted marriage. - With me?

- I realized very early that my marriage

wasn't gonna work out. - I wonder why.

- You were [bleep] someone else.

[tense music]

- But that was just the beginning.

- What's the accusation?

- That he was [bleep] other people.

- I hope you never treat a girl the way

you treated me ever again.

- You told me that if I left you,

you would make my life a living hell.

- Bleh.

- Tonight, we'll dig deeper, as the Denver cast

comes clean about their confusing stories.

The women are just like, "You're lying, you're lying."

- Everything we say can't be a lie.

It's just not possible. - Becca mentioned receipts.

I figured I'd bring some receipts.

- It turns everything into a mind [bleep].

- I don't want cameras on.

- Tensions are still high,

and complicated issues remain unresolved.

Do you care whether you two have a friendship?

- God, no.

- The horse is dead, so it's time to stop beating it.

- It's just constant toxic negativity at all times.

- That you create. - I'm ashamed.

- It's not enough. This [bleep] sucks.

- I never [bleep] anyone.

I never said I wanted to [bleep] anyone.

- I'm completely conflicted. - I was shocked, truly shocked.

- I'm not dealing with this [bleep].

This is [bleep] up. I'm done. I'm done.

I'm just disgusted with everything today.

- Stop playing with me, Cameron,

because you don't scare me.

- [laughs] OK.

- Keep poking the bear,

and I'll bite [bleep] back.

♪

- All this and so much more,

as the "Married At First Sight" Denver reunion

comes to its dramatic conclusion.

- We were in a great place,

and the only thing that changed was a malicious rumor

that made absolutely no sense. - Rumors plural.

- Sorry? - Rumors plural.

- There was more than one? - Yes.

- You say that rumor, but you say those rumors.

- Correct.

- What other rumors were there?

♪

This is the "Married At First Sight"

Denver reunion.

- Do you know how you did me dirty?

Like, you manipulated me.

- The fact that you want to go down this road of,

like, saying I was a bad person,

it's like, we were in a great place,

and the only thing that changed

was a malicious rumor

that completely tore us apart.

- Rumors plural, plural. - Sorry?

- Rumors plural. - There was more than one?

- Yes. - Oh.

- You say that rumor, but you say those rumors.

- Correct. - What other rumors were there?

- So there were a few instances.

These are just the ones that I know.

I, like, mistakenly read some texts on your iPad

when I went to watch TV.

You told both Cam and Austin

you wanted to have sex with Lily.

You DM'd Clare's friend the night in the hot tub

when you said the same night you wanted to move in with me,

and then you called Cam to go on a double date,

which then wasn't only just affecting me.

It was affecting our friends.

- I also want to clarify, who is Lily?

- Uh, my ex-best friend.

- Mm-hmm.

- Those are all unsubstantiated rumors.

You actually tried to make out with my best friend,

but then got caught lying about making out

with someone at the bar. And--

- I told you the truth about the Australian.

- How many times did I ask, though, before you came clean?

- I was scared to tell you because I didn't want that

to be your easy out. - Ah, ah.

- But I also know Lily told you that,

and that was the second time you were protecting her.

- It was not Lily.

- I mean, I'm not gonna fight-- I admitted to you, right?

When you said Australian, I was like, "Yes."

- No. - And he kissed...

- You did not. - He kissed me.

- What happened? What happened?

Can you explain?

- I just want to say it, and then I'm done.

Australian at a bar kissed me. That was it.

- Were you talking to Lily? - No.

- Lily literally told me this. - What?

- She's like, "Austin said Brennan wanted

to have sex with you in the hot tub."

Cam told Clare the same thing.

So I'm just saying those are the facts that I have.

That's it. - Rumors.

Did you bring them to me?

- Why would I bring that to you?

- That's how relationships work.

- If you believe that he is making advances

on your best friend--

- Well, I don't want to believe that,

and Lily was still my friend at that point.

- Did you ever ask him about it?

- No, because I was like, "That can't be true.

That's sick." - Thank you.

- Were you guys still building

your relationship at that point?

- To be honest, I don't know when we were a friend reset,

what that friend reset meant.

There was a lot of reframing for him because

he had to hear things in a certain way

in order to, like, proceed. - OK.

- So, like, I wouldn't have stayed if I didn't think

that we were still trying,

and I asked him the night of the hot tub,

"Do you know what you want to do on Decision Day?"

And you said, "I still don't know."

Like, you still gave me false hope.

Otherwise, I wouldn't have stayed.

- I do regret saying that because what I meant

when I said that was we thought we were gonna

say yes to the friendship. That's how we aligned on that.

- You were gonna say yes to stay married?

- We were gonna say no to staying married

and yes to being friends. - OK.

- I-- I didn't know this. - Let me ask you this.

At any point, did Brennan say, "We are not in a relationship.

We're just in a friendship?"

- Not in those direct words, no.

- [laughs]

- Also, Brennan, you're a grown-ass man.

If you wanted to divorce me and leave me,

you could have [bleep] done it.

- You told me that if I left you,

you would make my life a living hell.

- That's a lie, but OK.

- You said, "I want to stay in this process with you

"because I believe in us,

"and if you take that away from me,

I will make your life a living hell."

- I don't believe I ever said that to anyone.

- OK. OK.

- If that's what you want to say.

- OK.

- OK, let's talk about something else.

Let me ask you.

You tried to explain what you considered

the negative comments.

- The negativity for me is, like, a huge thing.

That's one I'm like--

one of my deal breakers was a positive, positive person.

- I'm the most positive [bleep] person there is.

- Saying I hate this, I hate that, I hate this.

♪

- Why did Emily saying she hated something

affect you so much?

- It just always brought my energy down, man.

Like, it's like sitting, enjoying yourself,

watching the game, having a beer.

- I'm, like, the most unpositive person ever.

Like, the most laughable thing. Everyone calls me smiley.

I'm the most positive person.

And I made my accident,

which was pretty tragic and negative,

a positive situation, and then to say, like,

now we didn't work because I'm negative,

which is just incorrect,

and I heard nothing about it until you're spiraling

at our dinner, that hurts.

- See, this is the negativity in full force.

- And the way you react to negativity right now

is the problem. You didn't respect me.

You didn't care about me.

You did not take my feelings into account at all.

It was always about you.

And you can believe me or not, but that is what happened.

- I hope you understand, like,

because I wasn't attracted to you and--

- Which I honestly don't believe that,

either, but whatever. - OK.

And because I didn't want a romantic relationship

with you, that's why I behaved the way I did.

I was trying to find any possible way

that I could savor anything out of this experience.

But then it was just challenge

after challenge after challenge.

- I mean, I just will never believe

you weren't attracted to me.

We made out every day of the honeymoon after the wedding.

- That's a lie, a blatant lie.

- It's just not. Why would I make that up?

- Where? Where? We made out one time.

- I mean, if you-- if that makes you sleep

at night, sure.

Who wouldn't want to make out with me?

I'm sorry. - This is the delusion.

So did I tell you straight up to your face off camera,

you are an attractive person, I'm just not attracted to you?

- Yeah. - And that was it?

- Yeah. - And you didn't believe it?

- No, I don't, but it's fine.

- [sighs] See?

- And then when I said I wanted to say

I'm not attracted to you and I don't like you,

you're like, "You can't do that. God forbid.

"I'm not attractive?

I'm the hottest guy in the world."

I had to sit you down and be like, "Brennan,

"I don't think you get this. I'm an 8.5, and you're a 6.

If you were at a bar, you would never approach me."

- See, this is what's hilarious.

You, like, justify all these things

of what you want to believe,

and it makes it impossible to tell you something

that you don't want to hear.

- I hope you never treat a girl the way

you treated me ever again.

- It's just constant toxic negativity at all times.

- That you create, and I really hope you reflect on that.

- That you created because you could not let me go.

It was like-- - You are a grown-ass man, bro.

- I tried to leave... - You could have left.

- So many times. - You could have left.

You could've left.

- I tried to leave so many times.

- You wanted me to do it.

- You could have. Should've could've, would've.

- I should have done what I thought was best for me

and not what I thought you wanted to,

and that was my biggest mistake.

- Yep, I agree.

- Listen, everybody had a hand in this.

It didn't work, and now we move forward.

- Sure do. - Yes.

- I'm moving. I'm growing.

Therapy twice a week. I recommend you do the same.

- Are you dating? - [bleep] no. I'm crippled.

I just got my cast off. - [chuckles]

- I hate the apps. I hate dating.

I'll find my person later or whatever.

- Brennan, are you dating? - Yeah.

I'm in a very happy relationship.

- I knew it. I knew that was gonna be it.

- How is your relationship now, and how is it

different from your marriage? - It's great.

- What did you do different in this relationship?

- Oh, our communication's great.

We're always open and honest with each other

about how we're feeling, you know,

what we want to do better.

- Are you open to feedback with this person?

- Absolutely.

- I swear to God, I hope I find her

'cause I want to make sure I warn her to run

when you repeat the patterns that you have repeated with me.

- I should have ended the relationship

with you week two.

I'm-- I don't know what else you want from me.

Like, I seriously don't.

- I'm not-- I don't need anything from you.

I'm just-- I'm worried for this girl.

- About what? Like-- - Don't be worried about it.

- We were in such a, like, hostile environment--

- That you created.

- No, I didn't want to be with you,

and you kept holding me hostage.

- Yo.

- And you're wondering why I... - Yo, I held you hostage.

- Reacted this way I did. - I'm so scary. Whatever.

- I mean, yeah, like, literally, when you tell me--

- Grown-ass man. You have two feet.

- When you tell me you're gonna ruin my life

if I break up with you, then yeah--

- Because that's what I say.

I think America is gonna believe me, no offense.

So if you want to say that

and that makes you sleep at night, great.

♪

- Let's just move on, and thank you guys for chatting.

- She thinks this is, like, a reality TV show.

Like, it's actually-- this is not,

for me, a reality TV show. - It's not?

- We are not actors.

Like, I am a real person,

and I'm a human. - So am I.

- And the way you're treating me right now,

like, you're just trying to belittle me and make me feel

like a piece of dirt because I didn't succumb

to what you wanted me to be.

- You're making yourself feel like a piece of dirt

because that's how you treated me.

I'm only expressing the facts.

- No, you're not expressing any facts.

- If you want to believe that--

- You believe you weren't perfect.

I believe I wasn't perfect.

We weren't right for each other.

- If you want to believe whatever--

- Please just drop it, like-- - I'm not dropping it.

You want me to drop it because it's negative feedback to you.

- Like, you got to grow up.

You're 30 years old, and you have to, like--

you're like, OK, like, we just didn't work out.

- Bleh. Yeah.

- Look how-- you look-- you're literally

a college girl, the way you're reacting.

It's like-- - Oh, I'm a college girl.

- You literally can't take any criticism...

- I'm a party girl. - Or any feedback.

- Because, Brennan, get to the point because,

like, I'm laughing because I--

like, you-- living in your own world.

- You literally just want to, like, come on here,

yell, scream, do all these things,

make people feel like garbage.

I mean, it's like, why? - Can I just say something?

Everybody messed up. Everybody messed up.

- Yeah, but why do you take it to this level?

- Just let him go. Just let him go.

- Can I say something?

Because the deception led to mistrust and dishonesty,

and then everything went south,

everybody's to blame.

That's why we just got to move on.

- I told you a million times.

- We're gonna be back with more in just a moment.

- World War Five. I wasn't perfect.

- But we'll be back with more in a moment.

- So just stop blaming me.

- You weren't perfect, I wasn't perfect, let's move on.

- Sure, if you want to make it that simple, sure.

- All right, guys, let me get you guys off.

- It's absolute-- like, you're not a reality star.

- I know. I'm just like--

- You're not a reality star. - I'm not a reality star.

I'm a person. - Like, golly.

♪

- Thanks. - Thank you.

- I'm crazy. I'm delusional.

I'm delusional, baby.

♪

- We are strong. We are brave.

We are powerful.

We are-- [laughs]

No, we are the best. We are.

- [bleep] weird.

I wasn't feeling bad this morning.

It must have been something I ate

or, like, coffee hit the wrong way or something.

I don't know. - Girls, girls, girls.

Well, that's over. - One, two, three.

- How do you feel? - Fine.

- OK. - He is a psychopath.

- Where's Austin? Is he dead?

- I think he's [bleep]. - Still?

- Still? - Holy [bleep].

- Sounds like he might have picked something up.

[upbeat music]

♪

- All right.

- No, my stomach feels like crap,

and I don't want cameras on me.

[upbeat music]

- Yeah, I just feel like no matter what,

we're gonna be fine because we have each other,

and we've gone through some [bleep] times than this, girls.

- This is the best of the best. - This is the easiest part.

- Yeah, this is the easy part.

We did the hard part.

We lived through the manipulation,

the emotional exhaustion. - Gaslighting.

- The gaslighting.

And now we get to speak... - The unappreciation.

- Our truth.

- So Austin got the [bleep].

- He went back to rest up.

- Must be nice. - [laughs]

- What can you do about a stomach bug, you know?

- Get a seat. Get a seat. Get a seat.

♪

- [sighs] - [sighs]

- Ready? Ready? - All right, guys.

- OK, here we go.

♪

- Welcome back to "Married at First Sight" reunion.

Joining me now are the men from Denver for this reunion

that is like no other.

We have Brennan, Orion, Michael, and Cameron here.

Austin, well, we're gonna start without him.

He's not feeling well right now.

If he can, he'll join us.

All right, first of all, we know this season

has been different and that we are learning things

about how it went down

and how you guys might have tried

to play the game a little bit,

and I also hear that you are unhappy.

You feel like the ladies are getting their say,

that the ladies are getting to kind of

rule the roost so far. Let me say this.

It is very hard for us to decipher

what is real and what is not,

but this is your moment to speak your mind.

Just like the ladies got out what they wanted to say,

you have the opportunity now to say what you want to say.

- Yeah, I think the biggest thing is

you can want to be in a successful marriage

and not want to be with someone

in a marriage. - Mm-hmm.

And I think it's really easy to go back and say,

"Why did the marriage fail?"

"Oh, well, clearly, his intentions

weren't there," when you don't go through this process

with ill intentions.

It is way too difficult because there are plenty

of other shows out there that you can get away

with having ill intentions, right?

But this show is different, and that's why

I felt comfortable going through this

because I felt like this was free matchmaking.

I did not think that this was

a reality show where my entire life

would be disclosed.

- Well, I mean, when you get married,

marriage is your life, and you build a family with someone

who is your partner for life, and everything

goes forward from there.

You were not happy with your partner.

You were not happy with your match.

Do you think you should have been

more transparent and honest about that from the beginning?

- Absolutely.

I think I did myself a disservice.

I think the marriage wouldn't have lasted as long as it did

had I been fully transparent.

I was silent to try to protect the feelings of my partner

rather than express my truth,

and I think that ultimately hurt me

very much in the process,

and I think it hurt her in the process as well.

- Yeah, no, she's hurt, and that's what you're seeing,

the manifestation of that moment.

By the way, I do want to give you a second to address

that every time you speak, the women are just like,

"You're lying, you're lying, you're lying."

How do you respond to that?

- Challenge them on their story.

Every time you challenge them on their story, it cracks.

I mean, you ask Emily, he was so attracted to you,

how did he all of a sudden just stop?

Oh, I don't know. It must be a him thing.

Well, the reality is we kissed one time

on the entire honeymoon.

So there was no misleading there.

It was very difficult for me in those moments

because I was forcing myself

to do something I didn't want to do,

so I would remember that extremely clearly.

So there's just this sense of being told things

that didn't happen and then their stories

just mismatching, and it's like,

how can we be lying about that?

Like, I know what I did.

- You know, Lauren and Orion, their marriage ended early,

but at least they lived their-- you know,

that was their truth, and he was like,

this isn't gonna work for me. I'm gonna get out.

I'm moving on. - Mm-hmm.

- Orion, what about your relationship with Lauren

and how it kind of has now turned into

a contentious situation?

- It has, which is, you know,

really unfortunate because once, you know,

things had ended, I was really hoping that,

you know, we could find our way

to being civil towards each other,

you know, just to make the end of the process

manageable for both of us.

And so, you know, it was a lot of push and pull, you know,

for a long time, and I think we just kept

missing the mark, you know, for the communication,

the topic of conversation, things like that.

And so it just--

it-- it was always a miss.

And so, you know, right now I just--

I really hope the best for her and that, you know,

we can still walk away from this as civilly

as possible with each other. - Mm-hmm.

Cameron, there were accusations that you tapped out.

You were just like, "I'm getting out of this,

no matter what."

And we understand you had a medical situation,

but the ladies were saying, "Oh, no, he-- he wanted out,

"and he got out. He found a way out."

- Yeah, I found a way, right? [sighs]

All I can tell you, right,

is what the doctors told me... - Mm-hmm.

- Which is that what I experienced,

it's not hereditary. - Mm-hmm.

- It's a purely stress-induced trauma to the heart,

literally a broken heart.

Me announcing my divorce to the group,

it was that night that I went into flutter.

- Mm.

- And, you know, since Becca mentioned receipts,

I figured I'd bring some receipts.

And that's where I was shocked back.

- Oh, yeah, that's your EKG.

- Yeah, and-- and here's--

here's the shock right here. - Where your heart stopped?

- Yep, three times.

So I guess I found a way out, right?

- I sense that having, you know,

a moment like that brings you clarity

on what you see in life.

- I learned a lot of lessons.

- Mm-hmm.

- And something I learned

is to advocate for myself.

Sometimes people are not how they present themselves,

and I've always lived my life, give full trust.

And I realize maybe it's easier to give no one any trust

and make them earn it. - Mm-hmm.

- And it makes me sad.

But my lesson learned is to use my head

a little more than my heart. - Mm.

Michael, I thought that Chloe came in

as a breath of fresh air. How did that make you feel?

- Chloe was a breath of fresh air.

I mean, obviously, I knew I wanted

to go into this second opportunity

without having any residue from the first,

but I also knew that it would be extremely helpful

if my partner echoed qualities that would

ease me and make that easier.

And just her whole demeanor made that easy for me.

It validated for me and instilled confidence

that there isn't gonna be any residue

from this first experience.

I'm already committed to that, but now I have someone that

will help me go through that. - Mm-hmm.

And by the way, there are lots of people saying,

"Oh, they staged this.

"Why would they let him walk out there

and then the lady turn around and say no?"

Was this staged? - No.

[laughs] By no means was it staged.

And the audience probably doesn't mean any malice.

That's just how they feel in terms of how

everything was presented, but it can be tough

at times because it's like, well,

those were real emotions from me.

- That's what I was gonna say.

It didn't look to me like you were acting

when you went in there

and when you were with your closest friends,

and you broke down. - I did.

I mean, I was doing my best up to that point

to not break down because I wanted to maintain a level

of strength in that moment.

You know, there's a bit of pride

that comes in, right, and especially

among my friends and family.

I didn't want them to worry any more

than they already were worried. - Mm-hmm.

- But it did become a little bit overwhelming

just because as I'm recapping everything,

as I'm seeing their reaction, that kind of just

created that rush of emotion. - Mm-hmm.

It was a tough-- it was a tough thing to watch.

I mean, what good will you take out of this?

What will you walk away--

Brennan, how will you walk away from this with a positive?

- Yeah, I think there's a way to be

honest and respectful at the same time

while also still telling your truth.

And I think, for me, I will never sell myself

short of that again because it never does

anyone good in the long run.

- And by the way, everybody needs to understand,

sometimes it just doesn't work, and it's OK.

It is OK to say it doesn't work.

And it's happened in seasons before where people have gone

along, and they said, "I'm just gonna go along

and try and make her happy," and it just builds up

animosity and builds it up.

You guys, thanks for coming out here,

sitting down, and telling your truth.

And I'll see you back out here in a minute

when everybody gets together.

- Definitely.

- And hopefully we can lower the temperature.

All right?

We're gonna take a quick break.

We'll be right back with more

"Married at First Sight" in just a moment.

[upbeat music]

Cam, are you feeling all right? - Yeah.

- OK, get a little color back in your face.

- All right, man.

- You did good out there, man.

- None of these men are men we would have

ever given a second glance at.

- You have ugly souls.

- They're hideous inside and out.

- And we're letting these low-budget Temu Shein men

drive us crazy. - I need you for this.

- Cameron?

- I almost had to leave out there.

- It's starting to hit you? - Oh, bad.

It's just that central nervous system shock.

I can't take any more medication for at least,

like, another hour or two. I am maxed out.

- Dude, do not go out there if you are on the verge.

- I absolutely am. - Oh, man.

- I would really love to go and lie down.

Like, I should just leave.

I don't want to go out there.

If I could barely survive that,

how the [bleep] am I supposed to survive

what's about to happen?

- Dude, you can go.

If Austin can leave from the [bleep],

you can leave for a [bleep] heart attack.

This [bleep] is not worth it, bro.

- Yeah, I mean, honestly, Cameron,

if it's scaring you now, it's not worth it.

- Go rest and then see how you feel with the experts.

- Yeah. - OK.

Thanks, guys. - Yeah, man.

- Yeah.

- We need to start moving you guys to set now.

- Oh, God.

- OK, good luck, guys. - Feel better, man.

Get some rest. - Feel better, man.

- Rest, dude.

[upbeat music]

♪

- Same seats as last time. - Great.

- My Spanx are on backwards. - I'm so done with this day.

Clare... - It's crazy.

- I need you to stop being negative.

- I know.

- I need your bad bitch energy channeled.

I need Cam to suck a [bleep]. - Right?

- Brennan can suck a [bleep].

And we are hot, out-of-their-league,

bad bitch [bleep].

[dramatic music]

- When Cameron is upset, he runs.

What's new?

- Welcome back.

I'm Kevin Frazier, and you are watching

the "Married at First Sight" Denver reunion.

In a season full of deception,

we're gonna try and end with some truth.

Now I feel like we tried to outcoach

the coach this season, and the team lost.

So now let's go back to practice.

I do want to mention that Austin isn't feeling well

and Cameron is resting right now.

Becca? - Yes?

- Why don't we start with you?

Austin isn't here, but is there anything

you would like to say to address how this season went?

- I feel like I said what I needed to say,

and at this point, I just want to move forward

and continue on with the next chapter of my life.

- And leave this behind you? - Yeah.

- Michael, how about you?

- No, I think for me, I really thank you

and appreciate you for sharing the hindsight that you've had.

Obviously, it wasn't the easiest thing to hear,

but understanding that even some actions that I may

have thought were innocuous and how they impacted you,

it was important for me.

So I want to thank you for that.

I want to reiterate my apology to you.

I never gave us the platform to find a solution.

That's accountability that I want to take wholeheartedly.

And you deserved that.

[soft dramatic music]

And so I want to take this moment to say that.

- That's what reflection sounds like.

- Yeah.

- Brennan, is there something that you would like to say?

- Yeah, I feel like we had good intentions going into this,

and ultimately, our relationships did not work,

and I think to beat ourselves up

over every little situation of who was right,

who was wrong, it's like,

we are adults, and we have to take responsibility

for what we've done and move on from it.

- What do you want to take responsibility for?

- I want to take responsibility for not expressing

my full truth to you,

and I'm sorry.

I should have been much more transparent

and expressive in my thoughts.

- I appreciate that.

I don't really believe you, and I don't really think

that's genuine, because if you really were sorry,

you had a lot of opportunities to tell me

that before this circle.

I just feel like when it's benefiting you

is when you decide to fake apologize.

- See, this is the energy, right?

This is the toxic energy that you bring,

always, and this is genuine.

- If that makes you sleep at night,

that's great.

I wouldn't say this is toxic, but I do appreciate

you acknowledging and taking accountability

for whatever you think you're taking accountability for.

- Amen.

- Clare, Cameron left, and you don't have

a chance to talk to him,

but do you have a message to him?

- We had a true friendship, true teammate mentality.

I realize that that whole teammate mentality

was created on a rocky foundation,

which was constructed of lies,

deceit, hatred, resentment.

That was not real.

- I will say that this is no shade to anybody

on the stage at all, but sometimes you just

got to let that [bleep] go. - Yeah.

- Sometimes you don't get the apology you deserve,

and sometimes you just have to say,

you know what, this is too heavy for me to hold on to.

- Bottom line, he knows the truth.

I know the truth. Y'all know the truth.

- Yeah.

- I can't act and be what you want me to do

and play this dance and do the song

because that's not me. He could.

That's the difference. It's not on footage.

It is what it is.

Believe me, don't, I don't care.

- I also just need to point out,

like, why don't we believe Clare?

This happens in the afterparty. It happens--

- How are we not believing Clare?

- I just feel like she-- while there is stuff

off camera, like, people want to keep digging

and digging and digging.

- Like who? - Like you.

- What do you think I'm digging for?

- I just feel like there's no grace shown to her,

and I feel like she's disrespected and dismissed.

- Emily, hold on, stop.

- Does that, like, translate to you?

[tense music]

- Emily, hold on, stop. Stop for a second.

Stop for a second. - I'm sorry. It just like--

- You yelling at me doesn't change anything, OK?

I'm not gonna get rattled because you're yelling at me.

- I mean, I'm not--

- I'm gonna talk to you and tell you the truth.

- OK. - OK?

You disrespected this show.

You-- you understand that, right?

- Oh, no, no, no. - You did disrespect the show.

You disrespected the show.

You disrespected the people who watch it.

You disrespected the people who work for this show.

And the truth is is that everybody

was a part of the deception.

Everybody was a part of it.

I believe you were deceived by your husband,

and it led you down a road that ended up hurting you, OK?

But I also believe that everybody went along

with this scripting thing,

and that hurt the process, too.

And it's unfortunate that we couldn't have paused

and said... - Yeah.

- Whoa. - Yeah.

- This is crazy and wrong.

- We did that eventually, and to even do that,

for us to be speaking the way that we're speaking,

took so much strength and courage.

- I feel like a lot of this frustration

is coming up because they felt like

they couldn't talk about this when it was happening.

So now they're like, "I need to get it out."

- Look, we're all about get it out and say your piece.

All right, it's time to move on.

Brennan, why didn't your relationship work?

- I felt there was a massive mismatch

from the very beginning.

And the hurdles that we encountered very early on,

I personally could not get over.

- What were the hurdles?

- When I first saw you, I was like, pretty girl,

you know, cool, fun, making me feel comfortable.

An hour later, I'm talking with your friends,

and they're telling me that you get ghosted all the time.

You love one-night stands. You're selfish.

- I don't think they said I had one-night stands

or I'm selfish. - Someone was telling me that.

So I'm already feeling turned off at this point.

So the next day, we talk.

You have no idea where your money goes.

Alarm.

- I make more money than you, OK?

- No, you don't. - Yes, I do.

- You lied about that. So that was cool.

That, for me, is not what I was looking for in my future wife.

- That's fair. That's fair.

- So when I heard that, I was turned off.

And then you're like, "Well, why didn't you talk about it,

all these heavy conversations?"

This was week one into our marriage.

I held my negative feelings towards you.

I admit that.

But those were internal feelings

that I needed to overcome.

- Do you see how that could drive someone crazy?

- And-- and would you say, Becca,

that that's something you suffered from

in your relationship, too? - Absolutely.

You start to question your own reality

and who you are and what is real

and where you're going wrong

and where somebody else is going wrong.

It turns everything into a mind [bleep].

I think honesty is always the best policy

because things will fall the way that dominoes

are supposed to fall.

Like, the dominoes will fall however

they're supposed to fall if people are being honest.

And like... - That's true.

- You didn't let those dominoes fall.

You were trying to control how the dominoes were placed

and where they were gonna fall. - That's 100% fair.

I was afraid to say my piece because I thought

we would be two days after you guys.

- But if you wanted out, why wouldn't that

be a bad thing?

- Because I cared about what she thought.

- And is it fair to say that you came in here saying

divorce is not an option?

So I feel like maybe you were being silent because

you really didn't want to face the music that

you're about to get a divorce.

- All I'm gonna say to that is that I gave you everything.

I was honest, and I just wish

you would have told me these things.

And you know-- you know the truth,

and I know you know that, and it's OK.

but I just wish you told me these things.

And honestly, I'm not gonna apologize for being me.

That's who I am.

- And that's 100% fair.

[soft dramatic music]

- This is hard to hear.

You know, Brennan, you know,

I think it's great that you were honest.

Emily, I'm sorry that it has cut deep.

You know, it's never great seeing people cry.

Yeah, it's just-- it's-- it's feeling heavy

for me right now. - I can't even--

like, to say it's hard to hear is not enough.

This [bleep] sucks. - Yeah.

- I have, never in my life, found myself

in a position where I had to feel so much pain

and sadness and hatred and resentment

and bitterness and anger all at once.

And if this is not a testament to the importance of just

being authentic and just saying what is on your mind,

and if you're not speaking your truth,

you are doing yourself a massive disservice,

all because we were trying so hard to paint

a picture that didn't exist.

So I think if there is anything that we can do walking out

of here, it is just to say, "For the rest of my life,

"I will speak my truth,

"I will live in authenticity,

"And I am never, ever going to put

anybody ahead of the prioritization of myself."

- 100%.

- That's it, because this is awful.

- Agreed. Agreed.

- Yeah.

♪

- I do want to say there were moments this season.

There was laughter and fun.

So I have something really fun

that I want to play for you guys.

- Uh-oh. - Here it is.

- Oh, this is amazing.

- Buckle up.

We are about to have a really, really wild ride.

- Ah! [laughter]

- Oh, I forgot about the ninja stuff.

- Good. There you go.

- [laughs]

- Ah! [laughs]

- The bond that we all have is really unique.

- [laughs]

- That is always, I think, our favorite time,

just to be unfiltered and just our crazy, kooky selves.

- Ah!

[upbeat music]

[laughter]

- This feels-- this feels right.

- Oh, oh! [laughs]

- I told you don't [bleep] with me.

♪

- I think it's important that you see how insane

this looks from my perspective.

[horse neighs] - Excuse me.

- On a scale of 9 to 10, how sexy is this right now?

- 12.

♪

- ♪ Ready to go - [screams]

I'm scared!

- I'm excited. [laughs]

[blows raspberry]

- The hodgepodge experience. Yes!

- We are in full effect, as they say.

♪

- Sorry. [chuckles]

- [growls] - Oh, you're patient.

You are not patient.

[quirky music]

- Excuse me. - Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

- [belches] - Oh, no.

- [laughs] - I just need to burp.

- [laughs] - Sorry.

- Being married at first sight is really crazy,

and I'm not disputing that. - Oh, he's so handsome.

- Yeah, he screams handsomeness.

So let's just enjoy each other's company.

That's all I want. I just want us to have fun.

- Oh! - Oh, wow!

[all cheering]

- It's happening! It's happening!

- ♪ Dance to the groove

♪ Rock it until your heart stops ♪

♪ Take all your clothes off

♪ We got the party

[upbeat music]

- It's just been a crazy process.

- Delicious.

Bon appétit

- It's like our relationship, up in flames.

[laughter]

- Bloopers, season 17.

♪

- Oh, man. - [sighs]

- What was that?

- Pizza. - That was pizza?

- It never got made. - I don't know what it was.

- Who's responsible?

[laughter]

- Did you just leave it in the oven?

- I didn't read the instructions.

- You put it on broil. - Oh, wow.

- What'd you think, Becca?

- Well, I think it's good because I think, like,

as angry and resentful as we all may be,

especially us, like, I think it's like,

at the end of the day,

we just want the best for each other,

and we are all humans. We all make mistakes.

And we still all deserve more of those laughs

in the future. - Mm-hmm.

- And I think we'll get that, just with a wiser mentality.

- Yeah.

- Next up, we have Lauren and Orion.

Now, people doubted this match at the beginning.

I'm not gonna lie, I was one of them.

But these two had a very special connection

right from the start that made us think

that they could go the distance,

and then they shocked us all by being the first couple

to get divorced.

All right, let's bring them out and see

how they're doing today. - Hi.

- Hello, hello, hello.

- Good to see you again. - Good to see you again.

Good to see you. - How you doing?

- I'm good. I'm good. I'm good.

[upbeat music]

All right, so right off the bat, guys,

how are you doing?

How have you been since you split?

- So good. - Yeah?

- Very well, yeah. - Yeah?

- Yeah. - What are you up to?

- Right now, I've been doing a lot

of international traveling, seeing my family a lot,

and just getting back to me. - Oh, OK.

Orion, what about you?

- Since the split, you know,

I've been very good, very happy.

Just kind of getting back into the swing

of things and normal life.

You know, work, family, friends,

staying on top of it all.

- You guys started off strong.

What attracted you to Lauren in the beginning?

- Her smile.

That was the first thing I noticed when she walked in.

And with that, you know, it was bright.

You know, it was beautiful teeth.

And it was just, you know,

I saw my wife walking towards me,

and so I was excited.

- Lauren, what were you looking forward to

when you got married?

- Oh, man, I was looking forward

to just all the things you hear about from married couples--

the-- the sharing the-- the fun times together,

the watching the relationship grow together,

the getting through the trials and tribulations together.

I was looking forward to all the things

that a long-term partnership entailed.

- Mm-hmm.

All right, I want to bring it back to a tough conversation

you guys had when Orion decided to take sex off the table.

- Mm-hmm. - Let's watch that.

- When was the last time you had sex?

- A little more than a year and a half...

- Oh, wow.

- That I was intimate with somebody.

- OK.

- It's definitely something more than just

the physical act for me. - Same.

It's definitely been less time for me.

So it was a couple of months ago,

two months probably to the day, honestly.

How do you feel that I had sex two months ago?

- Being honest, it kind of took sex off the table for me.

[dramatic music]

♪

- Why did you have such a big reaction to that?

- You know, I can't recall my thoughts in the moment.

But hindsight, looking back, I guess

I had an expectation of, you know,

once this process starts and things start

really taking off, I mean, there was

no one else but my wife,

and so for me personally,

I just wanted to come to her just fully just as myself

with nothing in-between,

and that's just-- that was just me.

- There wasn't anything that happened

once she was matched, though.

Once she was matched, she didn't--

- Yes, and I understand that.

- So she did come to you fully as who she was...

- Yes.

- Once she knew... - Yes.

- Because if she hadn't gotten matched,

it wouldn't have mattered.

So I think that how does that stop her

from being fully herself?

- It doesn't.

You know, it was--

- And by the way, I'm not trying

to question your morals. - No, I know, I know.

- I'm just saying. What-- I want--

- The timing of it and the way I said it and every--

I just-- I-- and I'm so sorry,

but I [bleep] up in that conversation.

You know, I should not have judged you, Lauren.

I am very sorry for that.

You know, and I know you felt like your character

was in question in that conversation,

and I am sorry about that,

and I know that you were also feeling

very ganged up on that evening,

and I'm very sorry about that.

- Hearing that, what does that mean to you?

- I-- I think his apology is genuine.

I don't question that at all.

It doesn't take away the-- the confusion

and hurt that I felt that night.

- Ultimately, we did talk about it later on.

It doesn't matter.

There's really no timeframe on what, you know,

someone can do with their own life

before they meet somebody else,

and that's just kind of the period for it.

- Listen, it doesn't matter

what she was doing before the day

that she got matched with you. - Yes.

- She could be out there doing whatever she wants to do,

and it had nothing to do with you.

That was before Orion.

And once Orion came along,

then you can say, "This is my wife.

And then you can-- - Yes.

And, Lauren, again, I am--

I'm sorry that happened, and I'm sorry

that I made you feel that way.

- Orion, did you give up too easily

on this relationship?

- I think I gave up too easily on the process.

- Which would be your relationship.

- It's very separate for him.

It's very separate for him.

- So, well, the way I view the process

is what the experts can do,

the kind of tools they can give us

when we are in times of turmoil.

I just never gave it that chance,

the process or the marriage.

- So you feel like you bailed on the marriage too quickly?

♪

- Unsure.

- But if you left the process, you left the marriage.

So did you bail on the marriage too quickly, like the process?

You were married, like, for real, for real.

- Yeah. Yes, yes.

- Lauren, I want to know,

is there still a part of you

that is sad about the way this went?

- I'm sad about...

the partner I was matched with.

I don't think there is a right or a wrong way

to go about marriage.

I think that all it requires

is two willing participants.

I think he just wasn't ready for marriage,

and I know we have different opinions on that,

but at the end of the day, I think that.

And this is not a jab at him at all

because no one knows what they're ready for

until they try, right? - Mm-hmm.

- I kind of knew what I signed up for.

I knew that this was gonna be difficult on many levels,

and I just don't think he was up to the challenge.

- You are younger than Lauren.

And do you chalk this up to

a growing up and a learning experience?

- I mean, absolutely.

Every situation is a learning experience.

You know, there's lessons in every day.

You just got to look for them.

- Do you think you were too stubborn?

- Yeah. - Yeah.

- Yeah. - OK.

Have you now found peace... - Oh, yes.

- And moved on past this? - I'm very past this.

- Yeah. - Yeah.

- Yeah, yeah.

Do you care whether you two have a friendship?

- God, no. Absolutely not.

- So you two do not talk at all anymore?

- No.

- And that's the way you want it?

- Very much so.

I wish him nothing more than what he deserves.

♪

- What does that mean?

♪

What does that mean, Lauren? What does that mean?

- I'll do an Orion move.

- Look, I understand there's animosity there,

but was this a good match initially?

- Initially, yes.

- Do you think the experts did the right thing?

- I do.

- Do you think it could have worked out?

- Yes.

- If you had just stayed with the process?

- Yes.

- Hearing that, does that bother you?

- No.

- I think that you can only meet someone

as far as they've met themself.

- Mm-hmm.

- And I can't overexert myself to try to bring someone

up to being ready.

So that's why I say that I don't think that this was

an equally yoked match at all. - Mm.

- We've both moved on.

We both acknowledged that we don't

really want to talk to each other unless we have to.

The horse is dead, so it's time to stop beating it.

- Did I ask you, have you moved on?

Have you-- are you dating?

- Why you in my business, Kevin?

- I'm just-- I'm just-- hey.

Uh-oh, that's the answer that means yes.

Let me tell you what that means, yes.

- I am in a very happy, healthy, loving...

[bright music]

Place in my life right now.

And I don't think that that will change, regardless

of who enters or exits.

- OK, that's good to hear.

Has somebody entered, though?

- That's not this show.

This show is called "Married at First Sight."

- I know, and we're trying to establish it

that now that you're divorced at first sight.

- Divorced at first fight. - Right.

Are you dating now?

- I'm just minding my business.

- Orion, are you dating someone?

Are you seeing anybody?

- I am seeing somebody.

- You are?

- I am, for a couple of months now.

I won't disclose anything, but...

- You don't have to.

- It's going really well. - Really?

- Yeah, it's going really well.

- OK, then what did you learn, and how are you applying

that to this new relationship?

- Ah.

To not generalize the things that I say

so that it comes off as gaslighting.

- Mm.

- There were a lot of times where I misled Lauren.

In my mind, I thought I was making sense.

In the reality of things, it was not making any sense.

- It sucks that the lesson was learned at your expense,

but still, that's growth, right?

- I think if he like it, I love it.

- [laughs] Well, I want to thank you guys

for coming out and chatting.

I mean, look, the best thing we can do

is get to the bottom of this crazy season

and all the crazy things that happened,

and I think it was unfortunate because

I thought a lot of people were rooting

for you once it got started.

Look, in the beginning, I said, it's not gonna work.

I thought it was gonna work once it started and--

- You jinxed us. - No, I didn't jinx you.

Y'all jinxed y'all. Y'all jinxed y'all.

I mean, that's on you two, not me.

- You look nice and composed, all things considered.

- You all right, though?

- Yeah. It's just the [bleep] comments.

- These men do not deserve any of us, seriously.

- He's not ready to be married. - He ain't ready to be married.

- I'm not in the--

I'm not in the Build-A-Bear business, OK?

I'm not building men.

This was above my pay grade.

- Yeah, it was pretty eye-opening,

just, I don't know, the things that are being said.

I was really hoping for a better outcome.

- Falling apart.

Help.

- All right, here we go.

[dramatic music]

Hello, and welcome back

to the "Married at First Sight" reunion.

I'm Kevin Frazier, and I'm excited because the experts

are here and joining me now on the stage to answer questions.

And I just want to point this out.

Dr. Pia, this is your third season.

- First full-time season. - Yes.

Pastor Cal, you've been here since season four, correct?

- Exactly.

- Dr. Pepper, you've been here all 17 seasons

of "Married at First Sight."

You all have put your time and energy into this show.

I've never seen anything like I've seen

this season with Denver and the deception

to try and rig the system.

What are your thoughts about this deception in many ways?

- I had no idea they had made a plan to feed us

what they wanted us to hear.

I felt bad.

- When you hear something like this, it's disheartening.

All we're trying to do is make marriages work.

- Yeah.

- That's all we're trying to do,

match people to find the love of their life.

That's it, period, you know?

And so if you're not honest, you're not vulnerable

with us, I mean, it makes our jobs almost impossible.

- The word for me is just disappointment.

I'm a clinical psychologist. I'm not playing one on TV.

So how can I help someone if I don't have all of the facts

and all of the information?

- Let's do this.

Let's welcome the women back in so we can talk to them

and ask them questions directly.

Ladies, come on out.

[upbeat music]

- Hello. - Hi.

- Hi. - Hi, ladies.

- You look so pretty.

- Dr. Pepper, I want to start with you.

What would you like to say to the ladies,

and what are your hopes for them?

- Well, it's been distressing to hear how unhappy

and angry everybody is.

I'm not here to parcel out who did what to whom.

I'm learning that I have very-- [chuckles]

I have very little real information

about what was going on.

But I'm hoping that you all can move forward.

Nobody wants to see you unhappy and angry.

- Becca, what would you say, and what do you take from what

Dr. Pepper just said?

- I think I'm sorry that I didn't get to know you guys

in an authentic way.

And I'm sad that I didn't feel safe enough

in a space to be my authentic self.

It was a very confusing situation

to be in when you're trying to protect

the person that you like, and you don't know that

until it's hindsight.

- The feelings that we felt in the moment

where we were fight or flight

and didn't feel like we could advocate

for ourselves, we are now finally

at a place where we can say

here is where we felt silenced or dismissed.

And now we are speaking on behalf of that

because the entire filming,

I didn't feel like in an environment where

I could advocate for myself in the ways that I wanted.

So now is my time to do that.

- When I hear you all say, like, "We didn't speak out

because we wanted to protect," or when I'm hearing

you now say, like, "I didn't feel safe,"

or, "I felt silenced," by whom? Like, what was going on?

Can you help fill me in? - The men.

They wanted to look good.

They wanted to look a certain way on camera,

and then their heightened anxiety

was making us wonder if we also should be anxious.

- I think on that point, while there was a similarity

of how we felt the men were paranoid,

all of us handled that differently...

- Yeah. - In our marriages.

- What might we have been able to do differently

so that y'all could have come to us,

pulled us aside, and said, "Hey, this is what's going on"?

Because we all said, "We are here for you all."

- Yeah. - "You can call us."

And so I think I'm curious of what got

in the way of that happening.

- Hindsight, expecting us to know

that that would have been the right move

is asking a lot in a really high-pressure situation

when you've just married a stranger.

You want it to work. You're giving it your all.

And so if they want to go a certain path

or take us down a certain road,

then how do you speak up about that?

- I would challenge that we wanted

the marriage to work so bad, that's why we didn't reach out.

And we thought by trusting them,

going along with it, that was going

to make our marriage survive.

- Are you using an absolute here

and saying that all the men

were controlling and manipulating--

- Yes. - From day one.

You can't ask that broad question

across all of us.

- But that's what's being presented.

So of these men, who was the ringleader?

- Cameron. - Cameron?

- Yep. - But here's my problem.

If somebody is treating you in a way

that is unbefitting of how a husband should treat a wife,

I would want to know,

and I would want to talk to him personally to handle that.

Am I right or wrong? - You're right, Pastor.

- We're gonna handle it.

- I think, on our side, we felt that you did have

the equipment to tell us how you felt and to come to us,

you know?

I mean, we don't think of you as, you know,

like, wilted flowers.

We think of you as strong women

who have a lot of presence in the world,

who have accomplished a great deal,

and, you know, whether, of course,

now you think, what were you thinking

with the men we picked?

But we felt the same way about them.

- Chloe, I want to hear from you

and what was the process like for you.

- [sighs] Um...

the massive differentiating factor here

is that Michael

was not grouped into any kind of scheme,

to my knowledge,

and so we were really just coming from a place

of trying to navigate a marriage.

And I definitely did not have

the same experience,

and it's hard to listen to because I can't even imagine

having had that experience. I would have short circuited.

But, you know, we didn't have that.

We were pretty sheltered from all of it.

- Dr. Pepper, what are the next steps?

- I always feel that when I feel heat,

as opposed to knowledge,

I have to trace it down and figure out

how to get rid of the heat

because I can't be my best self,

I can't think well enough about the problem,

and I can't move forward.

I'm a big believer in therapy.

You know, maybe if it's individual therapy,

you can work through this stuff just to get to a point

where you understand it,

but the heat, the anger, those emotions leave you.

And if it were me, that's what I would do.

- When we're sitting down matching,

I always have the absolute best intentions.

Nobody wants to see failure.

This is not our desire.

I hope that the lessons learned

are so valuable that you will avoid,

you know, any of this drama going forward.

- You don't have to tell us. We know.

We all have been putting the work in and reflecting

and using this as an opportunity

to get better, stronger, and grow.

I truly believe that we have put in the work.

We pause the TV when we watch the episodes.

We take accountability, we reflect,

and we validate, and it's a good mix of everything.

- Yeah.

- I was telling the girls right before this

that, like, every moment in our lives

is an opportunity to learn and to grow,

and I think that the growth that we've had

is something I would never take back.

- While I think that it is healthy

to do reflection-- I really, really do--

there's also a balance between healthy compartmentalization

and unhealthy compartmentalization.

- Yeah.

- So while I can respect the desire to, like,

be coming together as a unit to support one another,

I worry about how much that's adding more

and more and more fuel.

And so I want to encourage you all

to lean into that place of I'm healing,

and I'm on my healing journey.

- And going forward, you have no obligation

to protect anyone who has no desire to protect you.

- You have to protect yourself. - Yeah, right.

- A big lesson and takeaway-- and we see from the ladies,

and they have said that they all have learned

a lesson that they will carry with them

for the rest of their lives.

They will never have to worry about being in a position

like this again because the next time somebody acts out,

they will call them out.

[upbeat music]

- How you feeling, buddy? - Not 100%, but--

- You're coming back, man.

♪

- I'm upset.

I've heard that Cameron's not gonna be here.

- Oh, is he here? - Hey.

- Oh, good. Oh, good.

- Hi, everybody. - Hi.

Good to see you.

- How you feeling? - Better.

- We have to talk.

- Austin, what's up, buddy?

- OK, so OK, I'm gonna go.

OK, here we go.

♪

- Welcome back. I'm Kevin Frazier,

and this is the "Married At First Sight" reunion.

I'm here with the "Married At First Sight" experts,

Dr. Pepper, Pastor Cal, and Dr. Pia,

and, of course, the men from Denver.

There's so much to talk about,

and we're gonna get into that.

But first, Cameron, Austin, glad to have you back.

- Thank you.

- And, Austin, what's going on, man?

- Just needed a rest, relax, refresh.

- When you woke up, did you say,

"Forget the beard. I'm done"?

- I was like, "All right, it's got to go."

- Mm. - All right.

- Cameron, you're feeling better?

- Yes, thank you. - You look better.

- Thank you. - Yes.

OK, we're glad you're OK and want you to be OK.

Let's get into the season and what happened.

And one of the things that we talked about

is this fraud that was perpetrated in this season.

Dr. Pepper, I'll ask you your thoughts

and what you want to say to these men

about what you've learned.

- I was shocked, truly shocked, because, you know,

here we're sort of going with,

I hope, what you believe were good intentions

about creating real marriages,

and I find that there's been a plan

about what will be said and what won't be said.

So if there's anything we could do to really help,

we've been cut out of the process.

So I really want to talk to you, Cameron,

because I want to know how you thought of this,

why you thought of this, how you convinced them,

and why that was a good thing or a bad thing.

- Well, the first point that you just--

you made that I want to address is you said convince them.

Who did I convince exactly?

- What I've heard is the idea began with men,

not the women, and that you were the person

who thought of this idea of scripting what would follow.

So if it wasn't their idea first,

then someone had to give them the idea

and say, "This is the way to go," right?

- Sure, yeah, these are all provable lies.

I did not talk about any plan or--

or what these gentlemen should do with their marriages

at any moment.

I'm happy to take accountability for my part.

The role I played was because of my desire

to play to what I thought was the optics

that were needed with you, a deception.

So I just wanted to address that.

And it's funny, the side that is

throwing all these coordination and collusion,

they're the ones showing up, color-matching outfits.

It's just-- it's just-- it's awfully convenient

that exactly what they're doing

is exactly what they're saying that-- that we did.

And I want to say, I understand your grievance,

Dr. Pepper, and I am ashamed. - Thank you.

- Tell us what you're feeling right now.

- It just makes me feel

like I've learned nothing in my life.

[soft dramatic music]

- And we just keep learning things the whole time.

It's not like a straight trajectory

for anybody. - Yeah.

Sorry, I kind of blacked out there.

I don't know if I apologize-- I was trying to apologize.

- I received it.

- But I know I lied to your face, Dr. Pepper,

and if I did it to you guys as well,

I'm sorry if I don't have as clear of a memory of it,

but I definitely remember that.

- Thank you for the apology.

I-- I really appreciate that,

and it's a hard thing to do.

- Pastor Cal, as you're listening

to this, your thoughts?

- I'm completely conflicted because the story

that we got from the women was that

there was this secret pact.

Now I'm hearing the exact flip side.

So I want you guys to understand

how confusing this is.

- I can't get into a "that's true

and that's false" thing.

It's gone on too deep, too confusingly for me

to try to take that role.

I am sorry for the suffering

that you have endured,

just as I'm feeling sad for the women.

I would take it on myself to say

there's enormous lessons here,

and we still want the best for you.

So to go on and not let these things undermine you,

but rather be a new floor, a new door,

you know, ways to find yourself and take it and say,

"I'm a stronger, better person."

- Focus on healing yourself.

Focus on taking care of yourself.

Focus on learning how did I get here?

If there was some reason where it's like I need to protect

so and so or I'm afraid that this is going to happen,

ask yourself why. What was going on?

So that that doesn't repeat itself in the future.

I think that you all need some individual support

to help navigate that because this is

a completely unique situation.

- You have to take time, reset, reevaluate where you are.

Who do I want? Who am I?

It's a lot to process. It's a lot to swallow, OK?

- May I add a comment? - Yes, you can, please.

- My hope-- and feel free if you guys disagree with this--

for me just being here at the reunion and having

this opportunity, my hope for you guys is that there was

a healing element to be-- being able to have a platform

to state what your truth was.

Me specifically, I think the element that

I've focused on here is the growth element.

My one-on-one with Chloe was very illuminating

for me personally,

and I think there was a healing component there,

but more so, a growth component.

So as [bleep] as things may have seemed,

I do think there is a slight silver lining

that this moment here may be a catalyst

for the healing and the growth.

- I think that's what we hope. - I hope so.

- Brennan, you wanted to say something real quick.

Go ahead.

- Dr. Pia, I wanted to apologize to you.

I think you saw two sides of Brennan in this experience.

You saw the fun-loving, excited, energetic Brennan

in the beginning, right?

And then you saw, you know,

the "backed in the corner" Brennan.

In that moment, I was trying to be protective,

and I was controlling,

and I take full responsibility for that.

I don't think I gave you a fair chance

at letting you help us,

and I do sincerely apologize for that.

- Brennan, I am very proud of you for saying that.

To hear the words, "I did this, I was controlling,"

I think that's huge.

I think that's huge, and I-- and I thank you

for that apology, and I thank you

for taking ownership and recognizing that,

and I hope that that's something

that you can continue to lean into

and to grow into because I think that that

takes a lot to own that.

And thank you for that apology. - That was awesome.

That's a great way to end this segment right now

with people growing and moving forward.

Gentlemen, thank you for being out here.

Experts, thank you for what you do because I mean,

it is very hard, but you do put your heart

and soul into this, and we appreciate that.

All right, thanks, everybody.

There is still more of "Married at First Sight" reunion

on the way in just a moment.

- Thank you, guys. - Thank you.

- Sorry we're causing you so much heat.

- My man.

- Take care of yourself, Cameron.

Your health is of utmost importance.

- I learned.

I learned late, but I learned.

- I'm sorry I didn't put my faith in you, you know,

and I should have.

I should have. - Much respect.

- I am-- I'm sorry. - Much respect. Much respect.

Much respect.

- Last one, boys. Come on. Let's go. Come on.

- Almost there. It's all good.

We just have to keep fighting. - Yeah.

- It was hard to see you get emotional.

I'm glad you were able to open up.

- I'm sorry. We got this.

- No, we don't. We sit there.

We do nothing because we are not liars.

Come on, let's go.

[tense music]

- Round two. Here we go.

All right, keep it going. - We have to finish this.

Believe it or not, it doesn't matter.

It does not matter.

- The girls weren't even friends.

Like, through filming,

the girls weren't even friends.

- Yeah, I know. - Like--

- Emily hated Clare.

One of my biggest regrets was getting Emily to like Clare.

- But, guys, this is the last stretch.

- Grand finale.

Please no one say they're tired.

Please everyone give their all.

- Oh, we are tired, and we can say that.

- I know, but now is not time to give up, seriously.

♪

- Please don't look at me like that.

- That's unreal. - Me?

- You guys should just-- heads down after that.

♪

- Such a liar.

♪

- You're really good at lying, I'm not gonna lie.

- Can you guys just like--

it's over.

- Can you just not? It's not over.

- Emily, hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

- But it's not over.

- Here's my hope and my dream is that

we can have a civil, elevated,

and intelligent conversation.

You know what I'm saying? - This is a lot.

- No, it's a lot.

But I'm saying, we can disagree.

It just doesn't have to be antagonistic.

We can have a-- - That is very true.

- It can be civil.

It doesn't have to be antagonistic. - I liked my statements.

- OK, here we go.

♪

All right, here we go.

♪

Welcome back. I'm Kevin Frazier,

and you're watching the "Married At First Sight"

Denver reunion.

We've been getting inside all the issues

and getting the inside scoop also from the couples.

It's clear that there are still issues

that need to be resolved.

As you know, this season has been full

of accusations of lies, miscommunications,

and hurt feelings.

I want to talk real quick about the double-date situation.

I want you all to take a look at this video,

and then we'll talk about it.

♪

- There are things that are worth telling you

that you need to know.

I've heard through the grapevine

that he wanted to go on a double date with Cameron

and that he is going on dates.

Like, he's not a good guy.

- [sobs] [bleep].

I found out that you tried to go on a double date with Cam.

- I don't know what you're talking about.

- I don't--

- Me and Cam joke about [bleep] all the time.

- Why can't you just take ownership

to anything you [bleep] do or even,

I don't know, say sorry?

- Yes, it does.

- To clear the air, I was the instigator,

not Brennan.

I was the one that said, "After all this, let's go out.

"Let's have a good time.

Let's go-- let's go on a double date."

- You know that you are lying right now.

Our whole experience does not--

does not-- - [laughs]

- Is not the indicator of that conversation.

- I can never win this.

I'm always the-- I'm always the bad guy.

- That's the same response he has.

He can never win.

- OK, so, Cameron, you said

that you suggested the double date.

Can you tell us exactly what happened?

- Yeah.

Brennan and I went over to Union Station.

I don't know, maybe a week or two back...

- This is so [bleep] embarrassing.

- Approximately.

[soft dramatic music]

Should I continue? - Go.

Go ahead and continue to lie.

- Please, please.

- What are we-- what is he lying about?

- Everything.

You asked to go-- you wanted to [bleep] my best friend.

You told Cameron, and Cameron lied about it.

Tell me that-- we were in the hot tub together.

Cameron, is that true, or is it not?

- That-- I'm sorry--

I don't expect you to tell the truth at this point.

I don't. - Sorry, what's the accusation?

- That he was [bleep] other people.

- What? - What?

So first, you just said I wanted

to [bleep] someone else, then you just said

now I actually did [bleep] someone else.

Which one was it? - Well, either way,

you're in a marriage, Brennan. - Ah.

It doesn't matter. - I never [bleep] anyone.

I never said I wanted to [bleep] anyone.

I don't know what you're talking about.

- Cameron said you wanted to [bleep] my best friend

to both Austin and Cam. - You just admitted before

that that rumor was clearly not true.

- It doesn't matter. - Oh, here we go.

- It doesn't matter. Doesn't matter.

Doesn't matter. - Remember-- remember when--

- Facts don't matter.

- You both can continue scheming the way you have

this entire time. I'm not gonna--

- You guys are the ones coordinated.

- Done.

- Talking about plans every single day...

- No, we're done.

- 24/7 about this whole process.

Like, we're not coordinating anything.

- OK.

- I take offense to that.

The pink dresses, you act like we were

scheming through the filming. Look, this is separate.

Cameron, you can look bewildered all you want.

That [bleep] won't fly with me.

You're trying to equate the pact that you all made

to us deciding our husbands suck,

our husbands were manipulative,

let's wear pink in protest of them.

It's not the same. Cut the [bleep].

Now continue on with whatever

the [bleep] this is.

- You can't take a little jab when everything

you say is a jab. - Everything I say is a jab?

Baby, I ain't jabbed you yet.

- [laughs] OK.

- Now, keep poking the bear, and I'll bite

the [bleep] back.

Stop playing with me, Cameron, because you don't scare me. OK?

- We all [bleep] know who you are.

I'm sorry.

We read your [bleep] crazy text messages.

- I promise you.

Try me if you want.

I'm not the one or the two. Now continue.

Continue. - We went to a bar.

It was after that one-month mark

where we had that dinner where you guys were separated,

and her and I were moving out.

- We were still working on our marriage, but OK.

- Hold on, hold on. I want to pause.

- Should we air the clip? You say you're separated.

- Guys, hold on. Hold on for a second.

I want to pause for a second. Can we pause for a second?

- Why? - Can we take a break?

- Brennan, hold on for a second.

- [bleep], I'm not dealing with his [bleep].

This is [bleep] up.

I'm done. I'm done.

Oh, my God.

Like, what the [bleep]?

Oh.

- Why are you doing that? - Because you are lying.

- I am lying that you said on camera

on the one-month anniversary that you were separated?

- You did it two different times,

Brennan, two different times,

when we were working on our marriage

and when we were already divorced.

- Did you announce a separation?

- It doesn't matter. I'm done.

I'm not talking to you anymore. - It doesn't matter.

- Done. Stop.

- It is like--

just it's unreal how no one has

any accountability for these men.

- What?

- And no one is calling it out.

And we have to keep explaining ourselves.

Like, it's actually ridiculous.

[dramatic music]

- Everything we say can't be a lie.

It's just not possible.

- I'm just disgusted with everything today.

♪

- Everything we say can't be a lie.

It's just not possible.

- But for all three of you

specifically to deny

any type of lying happening.

- What?

- Brennan can't even acknowledge,

like, me sobbing on the clip.

Like, there's literally no remorse whatsoever.

It's disgusting.

- I will say-- - I'll let them talk.

- Let them say the--

like, let them get ten words out, OK?

Like, can we get the [bleep] story?

- OK, go ahead.

- And then you can call him a liar.

- We'll make it short and sweet.

That's it. - Go ahead.

- Brennan and I went out to Union Station.

There were two girls at the bar.

And from my perspective, my marriage was plainly over.

Brennan, you were on the rocks.

- My marriage was plainly over.

- And so I thought it would be funny to say,

"Hey, you know, in a couple of months,

we can approach those two." - And that was it.

There was no actionable-- - There was no action.

Did you approach the ladies? - No.

- This is just a malicious rumor.

- And that's just my sense of humor.

That's like, we're just-- we're hanging out.

- OK, it's fine, whatever.

- Clare, I'm sorry, but if you were genuinely concerned

about your friend, you would have came

to me directly and said, "Is there any truth to this?"

And you didn't do that.

- You also would have-- you should have come to me.

You didn't even check with me if there was any truth to it.

[tense music]

- But I don't want him to not have me out there

so he can just keep lying.

- Go ahead, Clare.

You wanted to say something.

- Nope. - No?

- No, I'm not doing this with you.

I'm not playing into it.

I will call my friend, and she will tell the truth.

♪

- Saying you're cute to a friend.

- What? Do you have proof of that?

- 100%. - Go ahead and show me.

- I will. - Emily?

- Everything is disgusting from today, everything.

I'm done.

I will sit here so I can listen, but I'm done.

- I do not--

and this is me talking to you. They can get mad at me.

Emily, if you don't want to be here,

don't be, you know? - I'm here.

And if I want to be here, I'll be here.

So I'm here. - OK, all right.

Well, I'm just making sure you're OK.

- I'm not OK, but I'm-- I'm here.

- All right.

Guys, we've cleared that up. You feel one way.

You feel another way.

I don't think there's a single person sitting up here

who doesn't wish this entire situation

was handled differently... - I agree.

- Because of the way it has turned out,

the amount of hurt.

I hate seeing her so hurt and so angry.

We're supposed to come back here together

and laugh and talk about weddings

and the future and all that,

and we're not.

So let's just-- let's leave it where it is

and let's talk about something else.

I know that there were a lot of moments that didn't get

into the show, and there are some that were captured

that you didn't get to see.

I want you to watch this fun moment

between Chloe and Michael that didn't make the cut.

[upbeat music]

- If you ever see me in this coat in public,

that means I am subjugating the city of Denver.

This is my supervillain.

- Is that a-- so that's a warning?

I'm gonna say no.

♪

- I actually tried that on in there,

and it was a bit tight, and it looks better on you.

- Do you budget for what you spend,

or do you just ride the lightning?

- This is discretionary.

- I'm just curious. - This is just--

- I thought we'd talk about it.

- I mean, this would be really rough.

I would probably say like $4,000.

- Way lower than I was expecting.

I'm a little surprised.

I don't know how it could be possible

that my bougie husband, in all of his drip,

could possibly spend less money than I do on clothes.

- That was cute.

- First of all, we loved that Chloe is dropping drip,

but also--

- Drip on the plate, baby. Drip on the plate.

- There you go.

But was that a realistic figure, Michael?

Seriously, was that-- 4,000?

You're spending more than that.

I mean, I'm looking at what you got on right now.

It's more than that.

- It can fluctuate.

There's fluctuation. I didn't want to scare her.

- He lied to me.

Why is this the season of lies?

- Did you enjoy having a chance to shop together?

- That was super fun.

I love that he appreciates thrifting,

and we had a really fun time. I'd go back.

- I want to ask you guys.

You've already been seen out,

and someone has recognized you.

What is that like, being out now

and people recognizing you?

- I forget that I'm on a TV show,

and I'm just always wondering, why do you know my name?

But so many people watch this show.

And this is a selfish thing to say,

but it just makes me feel good that I'm always

so kind in public and so loving and just,

like, a really nice person to people

because I would hate to, like, curse someone out

and, they're like, "Yeah, I know who you are."

- I know you. - So it's been OK.

It doesn't feel like an invasion of my privacy.

It just feels weird.

- Mm-hmm. Orion, how about for you?

- On the flight to here, the lead attendant,

she recognized me.

- Did you get any extra, like, goodies?

- I got a whiskey, but that's about it.

- There you go.

How about anybody, have your-- social media,

have people started sneaking into your social media?

Because I have noticed something that

they find y'all online quick.

You're shaking your head, Chloe.

Go ahead.

- Well, for a very long time, everybody thought

I was the runaway bride.

- That's not my fault, just for the record.

- So they were creeping into social media.

But I don't know that I'm at a place where

I'm gonna want to let everybody in.

My social media has been a private piece of my life,

and I don't know. I might keep it that way.

- I've actually had relatively a positive experience so far.

After the runaway bride thing aired,

I did get not a ton, just a couple

of messages of like, "You know, we hope everything is OK"

and like that.

It was, you know, humbling that there were a handful of people

that took the time to reach out to me

just as a show of support. - Yeah.

- I got an article written about me about how

I like to have one-night stands,

when very clearly, in the show and in real life,

I said I don't like to have one-night stands.

And, like, a whole article just on that?

- One-night stand guy, huh?

- I had nothing until Brennan said

he wasn't attracted to me, and then my DMs blew up.

Like, it just took going all the way down,

getting beat all the way down, for everyone to tell me

how they feel. So that was nice.

Clare, what was your biggest takeaway from this experience?

- Ooh, that's a loaded question, Mr. Kevin.

- There's a lot of things that you can say, so--

- Um...

[hums melody]

I think the main thing is authenticity is key.

[soft dramatic music]

Speaking your truth is key.

Healing and community is key.

- Mm-hmm.

Cameron, what is the way you've grown through this experience?

- The older and older I get, the more and more

I learn about accountability.

We all make mistakes.

None of us are perfect.

But learning and taking accountability

is the most important.

♪

- I grew in ways I didn't even know I needed to grow.

I thought I had come so far in my just overall

healing journey, and then don't ask for opportunities to grow

if you're not ready for them.

And I asked for those opportunities to grow,

and I was given every single one,

and it was transformational for me, yeah.

- My biggest strength and weakness is always trying

to see the best in people.

And I will never try to fall for the potential

and always remember what you see is what you get.

♪

- Mm-hmm.

Becca, in what way have you grown from this experience?

- I learned a lot.

- Mm-hmm.

- I think I learned to not chase something

that doesn't chase me. - Mm-hmm.

- And I already knew that, but it's just

to remember what I deserve and remember

who I am and just hold true to that.

♪

- I think the biggest takeaway for me,

it's being more mindful of what I might have considered

the small and innocuous things and that just because I may

have thought that, oh, it was just something done in passing

doesn't mean that it doesn't have a reverberating effect

on someone.

- I think I could use that lesson as well.

- It's yours to take.

- I mean, something that obviously

was an issue between us was intimacy

and recognizing the other's love language

and trying to adapt to that.

I wish I could have better adapted to that

so I could have shown her and separated

what was real and what wasn't. - Mm-hmm.

Well said.

Orion, what lessons did you learn?

- How to be more clear in the things I'm saying

and to be even more clear about the intention

of what I'm saying.

- I've learned to trust myself,

to trust my first instinct.

And I will never miss out on love

by giving love freely.

I'm grateful. I sit here.

I'm not angry.

I'm not sad. I'm not resentful.

I'm not remorseful.

I'm just overwhelmingly happy with my life right now.

♪

- That's fantastic.

You know, after 17 seasons, we have seen 69 couples

get married as complete strangers.

Now the most successful, whether they stayed married

or got divorced, have used this experience

to practice working through conflict

and into reconciliation.

Now that we have talked things out

and I'm not gonna say we've 100% cleared the air,

but we've kind of cleared the air around some of

the most heated arguments, I just want to thank you all

for being here because this was hard as hell.

- Thank you. - Thank God.

- This was tough.

- We went through laughs, cries, everything in-between,

and you're great.

- Whether you all agreed or not,

I wanted everybody to have a chance to say their piece,

and then you can move on.

And I want you all to move on.

Thank you for being a part of this journey.

We wouldn't be here if it weren't for your courage

in marrying a complete stranger

and living it out for all of us to see.

We have had a chance to cover everything

that we could talk about with the Denver season

of "Married at First Sight."

But before we go, I'm excited to share

an exclusive sneak peek of the upcoming season

of "Married at First Sight" Chicago.

- Oh, Lord. - Take a look.

[upbeat music]

- ♪ Can we make this last forever? ♪

♪ You and me together

- Welcome to my beautiful city of Chicago.

I am so excited.

Chicago is a great place to find love.

- There's some really great people here,

and they're ready for this.

- What drew you to "Married at First Sight"?

- I'm ready for love.

I'm ready for the next step.

- I've been looking for somebody for my entire life,

and I just haven't found it.

- I've been going on a lot of bad dates in Chicago.

- Really? - I feel like I deserve love.

- I think you do, too.

- You are getting married.

- Sorry, guys, missed your chance.

- In two weeks, you are going to be a husband.

- All right, let's go. - Whoo!

- It's happy tears.

- I'm a wife! - Yes! Yes!

- It's my wedding day. I'm getting married.

- Whoo! - I want to be happy.

I want to love somebody. I want to be loved.

- I am ready for the next chapter.

- It's a lifelong commitment.

It's the beginning of a family.

So it's now or never.

- I want to be married.

I want to start my life.

♪

- I'm about to marry a stranger.

Like, I'd be crazy if I wasn't nervous.

- The unknown scares me.

I mean, everything is unknown in this situation.

- Biggest fear would be that he doesn't like me.

Would it be the end of the world

if I just literally didn't do this?

- Please stand. - Ah! Panic.

- I'm excited to see who my wife is.

- I really don't know if I can do this.

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- Is she running away?

- Chicago looks like it'll be fun.

I don't think it'll be like this,

but it looks like it'll be fun.

Thanks, you guys, again. - Thank you.

- I am Kevin Frazier, and for everybody

from the Denver season, good night

and thanks for joining us, y'all.

- Cheers.

- Next week on "Married at First Sight..."

- Oh, oh, oh, wow.

- We are happy, healing, and looking hot.

[laughter]

- One more button lower, and I would think

you were coming on to me.

- Did you miss him when he was gone from the house?

- She did. - Aw.

- Who knows? Before you know it,

you're in love with your roommate.

- You know the internet has been willing this.

- The internet has been waiting for--

- They have been willing this interaction.

- Here we are.

[dramatic music]

Chloe and I are no longer friends.

She became very irate when I followed Michael

on social media.

- One of them with a burner account

has written the most horrifying things

that you could possibly imagine about me.

- I have no ill will. - Oh, I do.

- I know you do.

- These women do not want to heal.

- I feel like it's healthy to have a little bit of hate.

- I wish them everything they may need

to be different people.

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