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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:25,875 --> 00:00:27,125 But we can no longer risk 2 00:00:27,208 --> 00:00:30,708 emergency improvisation of national defense. 3 00:00:31,500 --> 00:00:33,000 We have been compelled to create 4 00:00:33,083 --> 00:00:35,125 a permanent armaments industry 5 00:00:35,208 --> 00:00:37,292 of vast proportions. 6 00:00:37,375 --> 00:00:38,625 Added to this... 7 00:00:38,708 --> 00:00:41,542 three and a half million men and women 8 00:00:41,625 --> 00:00:42,792 are directly engaged 9 00:00:42,875 --> 00:00:44,583 in the defense establishment. 10 00:00:45,458 --> 00:00:48,958 We annually spend on military security alone... 11 00:00:49,042 --> 00:00:51,083 - January 1961. 12 00:00:51,167 --> 00:00:54,667 President Dwight D. Eisenhower's Farewell Address to the nation. 13 00:00:54,750 --> 00:00:55,917 Now this conjunction... 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,750 of an immense military establishment 15 00:00:57,833 --> 00:00:59,417 and a large arms industry 16 00:00:59,750 --> 00:01:00,667 is new... 17 00:01:00,750 --> 00:01:02,375 in the American experience. 18 00:01:02,875 --> 00:01:04,208 The total influence... 19 00:01:04,583 --> 00:01:07,833 economic, political, even spiritual, 20 00:01:08,083 --> 00:01:09,625 is felt in every city, 21 00:01:09,875 --> 00:01:11,125 every state house, 22 00:01:11,208 --> 00:01:13,000 every office of the federal government. 23 00:01:13,375 --> 00:01:15,833 - We must guard against the acquisition 24 00:01:15,917 --> 00:01:17,667 of unwarranted influence, 25 00:01:17,750 --> 00:01:19,500 whether sought or unsought, 26 00:01:19,708 --> 00:01:22,042 by the military-industrial complex. 27 00:01:23,125 --> 00:01:24,375 We must never let the weight 28 00:01:24,458 --> 00:01:25,583 of this combination 29 00:01:25,667 --> 00:01:26,667 endanger our liberties, 30 00:01:26,750 --> 00:01:28,583 or democratic processes. 31 00:01:30,167 --> 00:01:32,000 November, 1960. 32 00:01:32,083 --> 00:01:34,000 Senator John Fitzgerald Kennedy, 33 00:01:34,083 --> 00:01:35,042 of Massachusetts, 34 00:01:35,125 --> 00:01:36,375 wins one of the narrowest 35 00:01:36,458 --> 00:01:38,417 election victories in American history 36 00:01:38,500 --> 00:01:39,583 over the vice president, 37 00:01:39,667 --> 00:01:40,458 Richard Nixon, 38 00:01:40,542 --> 00:01:43,167 by a little more than 100,000 votes. 39 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:45,625 Alongside his beautiful 40 00:01:45,708 --> 00:01:47,917 and elegant wife, Jacqueline Bouvier, 41 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,167 Kennedy is the symbol 42 00:01:49,250 --> 00:01:51,417 of the new freedom of the 1960s, 43 00:01:51,500 --> 00:01:53,625 signifying change and upheaval 44 00:01:53,708 --> 00:01:54,750 to the American public. 45 00:01:54,833 --> 00:01:57,125 That all men are created equal. 46 00:01:57,208 --> 00:01:58,583 Every degree of mind and spirit 47 00:01:58,667 --> 00:01:59,917 that I possess... 48 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,875 will be devoted to the cause of freedom around the world. 49 00:02:02,958 --> 00:02:05,333 Today, the proudest boast is... 50 00:02:05,417 --> 00:02:07,417 "Ich bin ein Berliner!" 51 00:02:08,458 --> 00:02:09,958 He inherits a secret war 52 00:02:10,042 --> 00:02:12,167 - against the communist Castro dictatorship 53 00:02:12,250 --> 00:02:14,875 in Cuba, a war run by the CIA 54 00:02:14,958 --> 00:02:17,000 and angry Cuban exiles. 55 00:02:17,083 --> 00:02:19,417 Castro is a successful revolutionary, 56 00:02:19,500 --> 00:02:21,458 frightening to American business interests 57 00:02:21,542 --> 00:02:23,042 in Latin America. 58 00:02:23,125 --> 00:02:24,292 This war culminates 59 00:02:24,375 --> 00:02:26,667 in the disastrous Bay of Pigs invasion 60 00:02:26,750 --> 00:02:28,792 in April 1961, 61 00:02:28,875 --> 00:02:31,542 when Kennedy refuses to provide air cover 62 00:02:31,625 --> 00:02:33,750 for the exiled Cuban brigade. 63 00:02:33,833 --> 00:02:36,000 - Kennedy, taking public responsibility 64 00:02:36,083 --> 00:02:36,917 for the failure, 65 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:39,708 privately claims the CIA lied to him 66 00:02:39,792 --> 00:02:41,625 and tried to manipulate him 67 00:02:41,708 --> 00:02:43,625 into ordering an all-out American invasion 68 00:02:43,708 --> 00:02:44,458 of Cuba. 69 00:02:46,208 --> 00:02:49,750 In October 1962, the world comes 70 00:02:49,833 --> 00:02:51,458 to the brink of nuclear war, 71 00:02:51,542 --> 00:02:53,500 when Kennedy quarantines Cuba 72 00:02:53,583 --> 00:02:55,792 after announcing the presence of offensive 73 00:02:55,875 --> 00:02:57,667 - Soviet nuclear missiles 74 00:02:57,750 --> 00:02:59,917 90 miles off American shores. 75 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,708 Soviet ships with more missiles 76 00:03:01,792 --> 00:03:03,375 sail towards the island, 77 00:03:03,458 --> 00:03:04,458 but at the last moment, 78 00:03:04,542 --> 00:03:05,958 they turn back. 79 00:03:06,042 --> 00:03:08,083 - The world breathes with relief. 80 00:03:08,167 --> 00:03:11,250 In Washington, rumors abound that JFK 81 00:03:11,333 --> 00:03:12,875 has cut a secret deal 82 00:03:12,958 --> 00:03:14,250 with Russian Premier Khrushchev 83 00:03:14,333 --> 00:03:16,417 - ...no wish to war with Soviet Union... - not to invade Cuba 84 00:03:16,500 --> 00:03:18,167 in return for a Russian withdrawal 85 00:03:18,250 --> 00:03:19,250 of missiles. 86 00:03:19,333 --> 00:03:20,625 Suspicions abound 87 00:03:20,708 --> 00:03:22,958 that Kennedy is soft on communism. 88 00:03:24,375 --> 00:03:26,542 Kennedy also finds himself embroiled 89 00:03:26,625 --> 00:03:28,167 in Laos and Vietnam. 90 00:03:28,250 --> 00:03:29,375 We've got our difficulties there, 91 00:03:29,458 --> 00:03:30,583 quite obviously. 92 00:03:30,667 --> 00:03:33,542 Unless a greater effort is made by the government, 93 00:03:33,625 --> 00:03:35,625 to win popular support, I don't think that 94 00:03:35,708 --> 00:03:37,583 the war can be won out there. 95 00:03:37,667 --> 00:03:38,417 And the final analysis... 96 00:03:38,500 --> 00:03:39,292 it's their war. 97 00:03:39,375 --> 00:03:41,292 They're the ones who have to win it or lose it. 98 00:03:41,375 --> 00:03:42,875 Early that fateful summer, 99 00:03:43,083 --> 00:03:44,667 Kennedy speaks of his new vision 100 00:03:44,833 --> 00:03:47,000 at the American University in Washington. 101 00:03:47,083 --> 00:03:48,667 What kind of a peace do I mean? 102 00:03:48,750 --> 00:03:50,542 And what kind of a peace do we seek? 103 00:03:50,875 --> 00:03:52,500 Not a Pax Americana, 104 00:03:52,917 --> 00:03:54,125 enforced on the world 105 00:03:54,542 --> 00:03:56,292 by American weapons of war. 106 00:03:56,792 --> 00:03:58,917 We must reexamine our own attitudes 107 00:03:59,292 --> 00:04:00,667 towards the Soviet Union. 108 00:04:01,083 --> 00:04:03,333 Our most basic, common link 109 00:04:03,583 --> 00:04:05,167 is that we all inhabit 110 00:04:05,500 --> 00:04:07,000 this small planet. 111 00:04:07,708 --> 00:04:09,458 We all breathe the same air. 112 00:04:09,958 --> 00:04:12,292 We all cherish our children's futures. 113 00:04:12,792 --> 00:04:14,250 And we are all mortal. 114 00:04:25,042 --> 00:04:27,125 You fucking asshole! 115 00:04:27,208 --> 00:04:28,958 You come back here! 116 00:04:29,542 --> 00:04:31,417 Don't leave me here! 117 00:04:34,167 --> 00:04:35,625 They're going up to Dallas. 118 00:04:36,542 --> 00:04:37,292 Friday. 119 00:04:40,167 --> 00:04:43,750 They're gonna...kill...Kennedy. 120 00:04:45,708 --> 00:04:46,958 Call somebody... 121 00:04:47,958 --> 00:04:49,500 And stop them. 122 00:04:53,417 --> 00:04:57,750 These are serious fucking guys! 123 00:05:02,250 --> 00:05:03,917 She's high as a kite on something. 124 00:05:04,333 --> 00:05:06,708 - Been that way since they brought her in. - Please help! 125 00:05:07,833 --> 00:05:09,792 Please! 126 00:07:06,542 --> 00:07:07,458 In Dallas, Texas, 127 00:07:07,542 --> 00:07:08,958 three shots were fired 128 00:07:09,042 --> 00:07:10,625 at President Kennedy's motorcade 129 00:07:10,708 --> 00:07:12,125 in Downtown Dallas. 130 00:07:12,625 --> 00:07:13,833 The first reports say that 131 00:07:13,917 --> 00:07:16,750 President Kennedy has been seriously wounded 132 00:07:16,833 --> 00:07:18,417 by this shooting. 133 00:07:40,750 --> 00:07:42,083 What's wrong, Lou? 134 00:07:43,958 --> 00:07:45,875 Boss, the president's been shot. 135 00:07:45,958 --> 00:07:48,000 In Dallas. Five minutes ago. 136 00:07:48,500 --> 00:07:49,750 Oh, no. 137 00:07:52,708 --> 00:07:53,917 How bad? 138 00:07:54,167 --> 00:07:55,083 There's no word yet, 139 00:07:55,167 --> 00:07:56,708 but they think it's in the head. 140 00:08:03,875 --> 00:08:05,125 Come on. 141 00:08:05,583 --> 00:08:06,958 Napoleon's has a TV set. 142 00:08:08,167 --> 00:08:10,292 Apparently, three bullets were found. 143 00:08:10,375 --> 00:08:13,042 Governor Connally also appeared to have been hit. 144 00:08:13,125 --> 00:08:14,792 The President was rushed by Secret Service 145 00:08:14,875 --> 00:08:16,208 to Parkland Memorial Hospital, 146 00:08:16,292 --> 00:08:18,000 four miles from Dealey Plaza. 147 00:08:18,083 --> 00:08:20,708 We are told a bullet entered the base of the throat, 148 00:08:20,792 --> 00:08:22,417 and came out of the backside, 149 00:08:22,500 --> 00:08:24,333 but there is no confirmation. 150 00:08:24,417 --> 00:08:26,417 Blood transfusions are being given. 151 00:08:26,833 --> 00:08:29,000 A priest has administered the last rites. 152 00:08:31,833 --> 00:08:33,458 There's still a chance, damnit. 153 00:08:35,333 --> 00:08:36,958 Come on, Jack. Pull through. 154 00:08:37,042 --> 00:08:38,167 From Dallas, Texas. 155 00:08:38,250 --> 00:08:40,208 The flash, apparently official. 156 00:08:40,542 --> 00:08:42,500 President Kennedy died 157 00:08:42,583 --> 00:08:45,958 - at 1:00 p.m. Central Standard Time. 158 00:08:46,208 --> 00:08:48,875 2:00 Eastern Standard Time. 159 00:08:48,958 --> 00:08:51,208 Some 38 minutes ago. 160 00:08:56,542 --> 00:08:58,042 Vice President Lyndon Johnson 161 00:08:58,125 --> 00:08:59,625 has left the hospital. 162 00:08:59,708 --> 00:09:03,375 Presumably, he will be taking the oath of office shortly 163 00:09:03,458 --> 00:09:07,750 and become the 36th President of the United States. 164 00:09:08,458 --> 00:09:10,542 He did so much for this country, 165 00:09:10,625 --> 00:09:12,250 for colored people. 166 00:09:12,333 --> 00:09:13,458 Why? 167 00:09:13,833 --> 00:09:14,875 Why? 168 00:09:15,958 --> 00:09:17,125 He's dirty! 169 00:09:17,208 --> 00:09:18,958 Goodbye, you sorry bastard! 170 00:09:19,583 --> 00:09:20,458 Die! 171 00:09:20,542 --> 00:09:23,333 - Hey, shut the fuck up! 172 00:09:23,667 --> 00:09:25,917 God, I'm ashamed to be an American today. 173 00:09:26,542 --> 00:09:28,750 The President of the United States... 174 00:09:28,833 --> 00:09:29,958 is dead. 175 00:09:30,625 --> 00:09:33,083 I have just talked to Father Oscar Hubert, 176 00:09:33,167 --> 00:09:34,917 of the Holy Trinity Catholic Church. 177 00:09:35,500 --> 00:09:38,708 He and another priest tell me that the pair of men 178 00:09:38,792 --> 00:09:40,333 had just administered the last rites 179 00:09:40,417 --> 00:09:41,625 to President Kennedy. 180 00:09:41,708 --> 00:09:43,125 Shortly after 12:30, 181 00:09:43,208 --> 00:09:45,667 as the president's motorcade near the freeway entrance 182 00:09:45,750 --> 00:09:48,208 near the park in the westside of Downtown Dallas, 183 00:09:48,292 --> 00:09:50,000 those terrible shots rang out. 184 00:09:50,333 --> 00:09:52,042 The president is dead. 185 00:09:53,125 --> 00:09:55,917 Bullets were coming up over our heads... 186 00:09:56,500 --> 00:09:58,958 from that fence up on the knoll. 187 00:09:59,500 --> 00:10:01,958 - I seen his face when it hit. He just... 188 00:10:03,125 --> 00:10:05,125 His ear blew off... 189 00:10:05,208 --> 00:10:07,083 and he turns this real white. 190 00:10:10,208 --> 00:10:12,375 He kind of flopped over on his stomach... 191 00:10:13,125 --> 00:10:14,417 And um... 192 00:10:15,125 --> 00:10:16,750 with his foot sticking out. 193 00:10:18,542 --> 00:10:19,458 Excuse me. 194 00:10:19,542 --> 00:10:21,417 None of us thought it could happen in America 195 00:10:21,500 --> 00:10:23,500 - or any place else, and yet... 196 00:10:23,833 --> 00:10:27,083 All this blubbering over that no-count son of a bitch. 197 00:10:27,167 --> 00:10:29,000 They're bawling like they knew the man. 198 00:10:29,083 --> 00:10:30,375 Makes me want to puke. 199 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,542 For God's sake, chief, the president was shot. 200 00:10:34,625 --> 00:10:36,083 A bullshit president. 201 00:10:36,667 --> 00:10:40,250 I don't see anybody crying for all those thousands of Cubans 202 00:10:40,333 --> 00:10:44,333 that bastard condemned to death and torture at Bay of Pigs. 203 00:10:45,042 --> 00:10:47,000 Goddamn peace treaties. 204 00:10:47,083 --> 00:10:49,125 I heard shots from over there. 205 00:10:49,542 --> 00:10:52,042 Well, I heard some shots from right over there. 206 00:10:52,208 --> 00:10:54,042 - How many shots? - Uh, I can't... 207 00:10:54,125 --> 00:10:56,708 That's what happens when you let the niggers vote. 208 00:10:57,833 --> 00:11:01,250 They get together with the Jews and the Catholics... 209 00:11:01,333 --> 00:11:03,625 and elect an Irish bleeding heart. 210 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,458 Uh, chief, maybe you had a little too much to drink. 211 00:11:06,542 --> 00:11:07,958 Bullshit. 212 00:11:08,333 --> 00:11:10,167 Here's to the New Frontier. 213 00:11:11,333 --> 00:11:13,792 Camelot in smithereens. 214 00:11:14,500 --> 00:11:15,875 I'll drink to that. 215 00:11:21,333 --> 00:11:22,250 A flash bulletin. 216 00:11:22,333 --> 00:11:25,167 Dallas police have just announced that they have a suspect 217 00:11:25,250 --> 00:11:29,458 in the killing of a Dallas police officer, a J. D. Tippit, 218 00:11:29,542 --> 00:11:31,958 who was shot at 1:15 in Oak Cliff. 219 00:11:32,042 --> 00:11:33,625 That's a suburb of Dallas. 220 00:11:33,708 --> 00:11:35,833 Police are saying there could be a tie-in, here, 221 00:11:35,917 --> 00:11:37,583 - to the murder of the president. 222 00:11:37,667 --> 00:11:41,458 The suspect, identified as Lee Harvey Oswald, 223 00:11:41,542 --> 00:11:44,417 was arrested by more than a dozen police officers, 224 00:11:44,500 --> 00:11:47,833 after a short scuffle at the Texas movie theater in Oak CIiff. 225 00:11:49,542 --> 00:11:51,208 Officer Tippit was killed apparently... 226 00:11:52,833 --> 00:11:55,292 ...by a revolver, which was found on Oswald. 227 00:11:55,375 --> 00:11:56,458 There is apparently... 228 00:11:56,542 --> 00:11:58,250 They oughta just shoot the bastard! 229 00:11:58,333 --> 00:12:00,542 They should give him a medal for shooting Kennedy! 230 00:12:00,625 --> 00:12:01,708 - Oswald! 231 00:12:01,792 --> 00:12:02,833 Oswald, did you fire that rifle? 232 00:12:02,917 --> 00:12:04,042 No, sir, I didn't. 233 00:12:04,125 --> 00:12:05,792 I don't know what I am charged with, 234 00:12:05,875 --> 00:12:07,958 - but I emphatically deny these charges. 235 00:12:11,375 --> 00:12:14,292 Well, the kid must've gone nuts, right? 236 00:12:15,417 --> 00:12:17,833 - I said, Oswald must've flipped. - Yeah. 237 00:12:17,917 --> 00:12:19,042 - Right? - Yeah. 238 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,042 Just went ahead and did this crazy thing before anybody could stop him. 239 00:12:23,125 --> 00:12:26,625 I think I'll get out of here. I've got to get home, chief. 240 00:12:26,708 --> 00:12:28,458 What the hell are you talking about? 241 00:12:29,375 --> 00:12:31,333 Yeah, who would ever have thought 242 00:12:31,667 --> 00:12:35,625 that goofy Oswald kid would pull a stunt like an assassination. 243 00:12:36,542 --> 00:12:39,500 Just goes to show, you never can know about some people. 244 00:12:39,583 --> 00:12:40,958 - Am I right, Jack? - Yeah. 245 00:12:41,042 --> 00:12:42,625 - Am I right, Jack? - Yeah. 246 00:12:42,708 --> 00:12:45,542 - Well, bless my soul. - Huh? 247 00:12:45,625 --> 00:12:48,208 Yeah, all these years I thought you were on my team. 248 00:12:49,167 --> 00:12:51,708 Sometimes, I don't know. Are you kidding? 249 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,542 I couldn't be more serious, Jack. 250 00:12:55,125 --> 00:12:59,083 The little red eyes of yours have me wondering about your loyalty. 251 00:13:07,292 --> 00:13:08,750 Look at that. Look at that lightning. 252 00:13:12,458 --> 00:13:14,750 - Who's been going through my files? - Huh? 253 00:13:14,958 --> 00:13:16,583 You've been going through my files, haven't you? 254 00:13:16,667 --> 00:13:17,917 You little weasel. 255 00:13:18,875 --> 00:13:20,750 You're starting to get paranoid. 256 00:13:20,833 --> 00:13:22,333 You really are! 257 00:13:23,292 --> 00:13:25,250 You were going through all my files. 258 00:13:25,500 --> 00:13:26,833 You're a goddamn spy. 259 00:13:26,917 --> 00:13:29,625 Why the hell would I want to look through your files, chief? 260 00:13:29,708 --> 00:13:32,583 I've seen enough here this summer already to write a book. 261 00:13:32,958 --> 00:13:35,250 I always lock my files! 262 00:13:35,333 --> 00:13:37,167 You're the only one here today. 263 00:13:37,792 --> 00:13:40,917 - What do you mean, you bastard? - Huh? 264 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:42,833 What do you mean, you're going to write a book? 265 00:13:42,917 --> 00:13:45,708 What? No, I mean, well, you know what I mean. 266 00:13:46,375 --> 00:13:49,125 I've seen a lot of strange things here. 267 00:13:49,750 --> 00:13:50,792 Strange people. 268 00:13:51,042 --> 00:13:53,208 You didn't see a goddamn thing! 269 00:13:57,542 --> 00:13:58,958 - Goddamn you. 270 00:13:59,542 --> 00:14:00,750 You didn't see a goddamn thing, 271 00:14:00,833 --> 00:14:02,083 you hear me, you little weasel? 272 00:14:02,167 --> 00:14:03,875 - You didn't see a goddamn thing! 273 00:14:03,958 --> 00:14:06,125 Full name is Lee Harvey Oswald. 274 00:14:06,375 --> 00:14:07,875 O-S-W-A-L-D. 275 00:14:07,958 --> 00:14:09,458 - Stand back, please. - Did you shoot the president? 276 00:14:09,542 --> 00:14:11,250 I didn't shoot anybody, no, sir. 277 00:14:11,833 --> 00:14:14,125 They have taken me in because of the fact 278 00:14:14,208 --> 00:14:16,667 I have lived in the Soviet Union. 279 00:14:17,167 --> 00:14:19,083 I'm just a patsy! 280 00:14:19,583 --> 00:14:21,750 God, he sure looks like a creep. 281 00:14:22,500 --> 00:14:27,042 I protested at that time I was not allowed legal representation... 282 00:14:27,875 --> 00:14:31,625 during that very short and sweet hearing... 283 00:14:31,708 --> 00:14:35,333 I really don't know what this situation is about. 284 00:14:35,417 --> 00:14:38,958 Nobody has told me anything, except that I am accused of 285 00:14:39,042 --> 00:14:40,500 murdering a policeman. 286 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,917 I know nothing more than that, and I do request 287 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,333 someone to come forward to give me legal assistance. 288 00:14:49,417 --> 00:14:51,625 Were you ever in the Free Cuba movement 289 00:14:51,708 --> 00:14:52,667 or whatever that it's called? 290 00:14:52,750 --> 00:14:54,667 That's the Fair Play for Cuba Committee. 291 00:14:55,375 --> 00:14:56,500 What did you do in Russia? 292 00:14:56,583 --> 00:14:57,708 And what happened to your eye? 293 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,792 He seems pretty cool to me for a man under pressure like that. 294 00:15:01,125 --> 00:15:02,583 - A policeman hit me. 295 00:15:02,750 --> 00:15:04,167 Gives me the willies. 296 00:15:04,417 --> 00:15:07,875 Okay, come on, sugarplums, it's past your bedtimes. 297 00:15:08,208 --> 00:15:09,792 Oh, Mattie, honey. 298 00:15:09,875 --> 00:15:12,000 - Get a hold of yourself. 299 00:15:12,333 --> 00:15:13,875 Why, Mr. Jim? 300 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,667 He was a fine man. 301 00:15:16,750 --> 00:15:18,250 Lee Harvey Oswald... 302 00:15:18,333 --> 00:15:20,000 - A fine man. - After a stint in the marines, 303 00:15:20,083 --> 00:15:21,750 he apparently became fascinated 304 00:15:21,833 --> 00:15:22,875 by communism. 305 00:15:22,958 --> 00:15:25,500 He is still believed to be a dedicated Marxist 306 00:15:25,583 --> 00:15:27,750 and a fanatical supporter of Fidel Castro 307 00:15:27,833 --> 00:15:29,833 and ultra left-wing causes. 308 00:15:30,125 --> 00:15:31,917 He spent last summer in New Orleans 309 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,583 and was arrested there in a brawl 310 00:15:33,667 --> 00:15:36,125 with anti-Castro Cuban exiles. 311 00:15:36,208 --> 00:15:39,208 And apparently, Bob, Oswald has been passing out... 312 00:15:39,292 --> 00:15:40,458 - Hello, Lou? 313 00:15:40,542 --> 00:15:41,875 Yeah, sorry to disturb you this late. 314 00:15:41,958 --> 00:15:43,250 It's all right, I'm watching it, too. 315 00:15:43,333 --> 00:15:44,417 Yeah, a matter of routine, 316 00:15:44,500 --> 00:15:46,917 but we better get on this Oswald connection to New Orleans right away. 317 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,250 - Mm-hmm. - I want you to check out his record. 318 00:15:49,333 --> 00:15:51,750 Find any friends or associates from last summer. 319 00:15:52,125 --> 00:15:54,583 Let's meet with the senior assistants and investigators 320 00:15:54,667 --> 00:15:56,333 day after tomorrow, all right? 321 00:15:56,417 --> 00:15:57,792 That'd be on Sunday? 322 00:15:57,875 --> 00:15:59,208 Sunday, yeah, at 11:00. 323 00:15:59,708 --> 00:16:01,500 - All right. - All right. Thanks, Lou. 324 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,125 I would say that, without any doubt, 325 00:16:04,208 --> 00:16:05,250 he is the killer. 326 00:16:05,333 --> 00:16:07,208 The law says beyond a reasonable doubt 327 00:16:07,292 --> 00:16:08,750 and to a moral certainty. 328 00:16:08,833 --> 00:16:10,917 I thought it was a motorcycle backfire, 329 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,708 and I looked over to my left 330 00:16:12,792 --> 00:16:15,000 and a second shot hit him in the face. 331 00:16:15,083 --> 00:16:16,625 Police say the rifle, 332 00:16:16,708 --> 00:16:20,042 a cheap World War II, Italian-made Mannlicher-Carcano... 333 00:16:20,375 --> 00:16:22,417 was ordered from a Chicago mailing house 334 00:16:22,875 --> 00:16:26,083 and shipped to Oswald's alias, A. Hidell, 335 00:16:26,167 --> 00:16:28,958 at a post office box in March of 1963. 336 00:16:29,042 --> 00:16:30,958 This is the same rifle that was used 337 00:16:31,042 --> 00:16:32,542 to assassinate the president. 338 00:16:33,208 --> 00:16:34,250 That ties it up. 339 00:16:34,417 --> 00:16:35,583 He did what? 340 00:16:35,667 --> 00:16:37,042 Another nut. 341 00:16:37,125 --> 00:16:39,458 Jesus Christ! Anybody can get a rifle in Texas. 342 00:16:39,542 --> 00:16:41,250 As far as Oswald's associates, boss, 343 00:16:41,333 --> 00:16:44,125 the one name that keeps popping up is David Ferrie. 344 00:16:44,375 --> 00:16:46,625 Oswald was seen with him several times last summer. 345 00:16:47,792 --> 00:16:48,833 I know David. 346 00:16:49,792 --> 00:16:51,000 Strange character. 347 00:16:51,083 --> 00:16:52,292 Yeah, he's been in trouble before. 348 00:16:52,375 --> 00:16:54,542 Used to be a hot-shot pilot for Eastern Airlines 349 00:16:54,625 --> 00:16:57,500 but got canned after an alleged homosexual incident 350 00:16:57,583 --> 00:16:59,292 - with a 14 year old. - These backyard photos 351 00:16:59,375 --> 00:17:01,833 were found yesterday among Oswald's possessions. 352 00:17:01,917 --> 00:17:02,917 - Get Kohiman. 353 00:17:03,500 --> 00:17:05,458 He told somebody the Texas trip. 354 00:17:05,542 --> 00:17:07,583 Yesterday, mentioned to somebody about Ferrie. 355 00:17:08,292 --> 00:17:09,333 Find it out. 356 00:17:09,417 --> 00:17:10,708 Did he shoot the president, Marina? 357 00:17:10,792 --> 00:17:12,167 He no shoot anyone. 358 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,250 He good-- good man. Good husband. 359 00:17:16,208 --> 00:17:19,750 So it seems David Ferrie drove off on Friday afternoon for Texas. 360 00:17:20,125 --> 00:17:22,750 A source told Kohlman he might have been a getaway pilot for Oswald. 361 00:17:22,833 --> 00:17:24,125 What getaway pilot? 362 00:17:24,292 --> 00:17:26,333 Hold on. Hold your horses. 363 00:17:26,583 --> 00:17:28,000 What kind of source? 364 00:17:28,625 --> 00:17:30,125 The anonymous kind, chief. 365 00:17:30,958 --> 00:17:32,583 I think I remember this guy Ferrie, 366 00:17:32,667 --> 00:17:34,667 speaking at a meeting of some veterans group, 367 00:17:34,750 --> 00:17:36,125 ranting against Castro. 368 00:17:36,292 --> 00:17:37,375 Extreme sort of stuff. 369 00:17:38,458 --> 00:17:39,792 Susie, back up. 370 00:17:39,875 --> 00:17:40,875 They're bringing him out. 371 00:17:40,958 --> 00:17:42,625 - Numa, turn it up. - Yeah. 372 00:17:43,792 --> 00:17:45,208 - Here he comes! 373 00:17:45,292 --> 00:17:46,542 Come on, here he comes! Get that stuff! 374 00:17:46,625 --> 00:17:47,583 Come on, let's get him! 375 00:17:50,917 --> 00:17:52,667 Is there anything you want to say in your defense? 376 00:17:53,750 --> 00:17:54,667 Oswald! 377 00:17:55,917 --> 00:17:56,667 What happened? 378 00:17:56,750 --> 00:17:57,875 He's been shot! - He shot him! 379 00:17:58,750 --> 00:18:00,708 - He's been shot! 380 00:18:00,792 --> 00:18:02,292 He shot him on TV! Just shot him! 381 00:18:05,333 --> 00:18:06,583 There's a man with a gun! 382 00:18:06,792 --> 00:18:09,000 - There's absolute panic! - It's the guy in the hat. 383 00:18:09,083 --> 00:18:11,333 Seventy cops in that place. What the hell were they doing? 384 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,417 Well, no trial now. 385 00:18:15,292 --> 00:18:18,375 Looks like somebody just saved the Dallas DA a pile of work. 386 00:18:18,500 --> 00:18:21,875 Pandemonium has broken loose here in the basement of Dallas Police... 387 00:18:22,125 --> 00:18:22,875 Lou. 388 00:18:23,792 --> 00:18:25,917 Lou, let's get David Ferrie in here anyway. 389 00:18:26,917 --> 00:18:28,083 It's wrong. 390 00:18:28,458 --> 00:18:29,667 This is crazy! 391 00:18:44,042 --> 00:18:46,292 Yesterday, in the midst of sorrow, 392 00:18:46,375 --> 00:18:48,167 the business of government went on. 393 00:18:48,583 --> 00:18:51,333 The President meeting with Henry Cabot Lodge, 394 00:18:51,417 --> 00:18:53,583 our ambassador to Vietnam, 395 00:18:53,667 --> 00:18:55,042 and members of his cabinet. 396 00:18:55,292 --> 00:18:57,333 The major subject was Vietnam, 397 00:18:57,667 --> 00:19:00,583 a crisis that does not pause for bereavement. 398 00:19:00,667 --> 00:19:04,458 And from this meeting, came affirmations that the United States 399 00:19:04,542 --> 00:19:08,167 would continue its policy of aiding the new government of Vietnam 400 00:19:08,250 --> 00:19:11,000 in its war against the communist insurgents. 401 00:19:16,583 --> 00:19:17,458 Chief? 402 00:19:17,750 --> 00:19:18,833 David Ferrie. 403 00:19:20,708 --> 00:19:21,708 Come on in, Dave. 404 00:19:23,167 --> 00:19:24,208 Thank you for coming. 405 00:19:24,667 --> 00:19:26,083 You remember me, Mr. Garrison? 406 00:19:26,500 --> 00:19:28,875 I met you on Carondelet Street, right after your election. 407 00:19:28,958 --> 00:19:30,375 - I congratulated you, remember? - How could I forget? 408 00:19:30,458 --> 00:19:32,208 You make quite a first impression. 409 00:19:32,833 --> 00:19:35,542 And I've heard over the years you're quite a first-rate pilot, Dave. 410 00:19:35,833 --> 00:19:36,625 - Really? - Yeah. 411 00:19:36,708 --> 00:19:39,625 Legend has it you can get in and out of any field, no matter how small. 412 00:19:40,042 --> 00:19:41,792 - Huh. - I'm a bit of a pilot myself. 413 00:19:41,875 --> 00:19:44,625 Flew grasshoppers for the field artillery in the war. 414 00:19:45,750 --> 00:19:47,417 Here, have a seat. Make yourself comfortable. 415 00:19:49,417 --> 00:19:50,875 Mind if I smoke, Mr. Garrison? 416 00:19:51,542 --> 00:19:52,500 How could I? 417 00:19:53,875 --> 00:19:54,625 Dave, as you know, 418 00:19:54,708 --> 00:19:57,167 President Kennedy was assassinated on Friday. 419 00:19:57,250 --> 00:20:00,500 A man named Lee Harvey Oswald was arrested as a suspect, 420 00:20:00,583 --> 00:20:04,042 and was then murdered, yesterday, by a man named Jack Ruby. 421 00:20:04,708 --> 00:20:07,583 We've heard reports that Oswald spent the summer here in New Orleans, 422 00:20:07,667 --> 00:20:10,042 and we've been advised that you knew Oswald pretty well. 423 00:20:10,542 --> 00:20:12,292 I never met anybody named Oswald. 424 00:20:12,667 --> 00:20:14,333 Anybody that told you that has to be crazy. 425 00:20:14,917 --> 00:20:17,042 But you are aware, he served in your Civil Air Patrol unit 426 00:20:17,125 --> 00:20:19,083 - when he was a teenager? 427 00:20:19,167 --> 00:20:21,167 No. If he did, I don't remember him. 428 00:20:21,917 --> 00:20:24,083 I mean, there were lots of boys in and out, you know? 429 00:20:24,167 --> 00:20:25,750 Well, I'm sure you've seen this. 430 00:20:25,833 --> 00:20:27,958 Perhaps you knew this man under another name. 431 00:20:30,667 --> 00:20:32,625 No, I never saw him before in my life. 432 00:20:34,333 --> 00:20:36,958 Well that must've been mistaken information we got, then. 433 00:20:37,375 --> 00:20:39,000 Thanks for straightening it out for us. 434 00:20:41,542 --> 00:20:43,958 There is one other matter that's come up, Dave. 435 00:20:45,708 --> 00:20:48,083 We were told that you took a trip to Texas 436 00:20:48,542 --> 00:20:50,792 shortly after the assassination on Friday. 437 00:20:50,875 --> 00:20:52,417 Yeah, now that's true. I drove to Houston. 438 00:20:53,042 --> 00:20:54,667 What was so appealing about Houston? 439 00:20:55,583 --> 00:20:57,917 I hadn't been there ice skating in many years and I was with 440 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,458 a couple of young friends and we decided we wanted to go ice skating. 441 00:21:01,542 --> 00:21:03,125 - Dave, may I ask why the urge 442 00:21:03,208 --> 00:21:04,958 to go ice skating in Texas happened to strike you 443 00:21:05,042 --> 00:21:07,833 during one of the most violent thunderstorms in recent memory? 444 00:21:09,542 --> 00:21:10,292 Uh... 445 00:21:10,417 --> 00:21:12,083 spur-of-the-moment thing. 446 00:21:12,250 --> 00:21:14,000 - Storm wasn't that bad. - I see. 447 00:21:16,125 --> 00:21:17,083 And where did you drive? 448 00:21:17,708 --> 00:21:18,875 Uh, we went to Houston... 449 00:21:19,542 --> 00:21:21,500 then Saturday night drove to Galveston 450 00:21:21,583 --> 00:21:22,542 and stayed over there. 451 00:21:22,792 --> 00:21:23,833 And then Sunday? 452 00:21:25,208 --> 00:21:26,667 In the morning, we went goose hunting. 453 00:21:28,125 --> 00:21:29,750 You bag any geese on this trip? 454 00:21:30,292 --> 00:21:31,667 I believe the boys got a couple. 455 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,792 But the boys told us they didn't get any. 456 00:21:37,667 --> 00:21:39,000 Come to think of it, they're right. 457 00:21:39,083 --> 00:21:41,042 We got out there, where the geese were, 458 00:21:41,125 --> 00:21:42,750 and there were thousands of them, all over the place. 459 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,333 But, uh, you couldn't approach ‘em. 460 00:21:45,667 --> 00:21:46,917 They're a wise bunch of birds. 461 00:21:48,250 --> 00:21:51,542 Your young friends also told us you had no weapons in the car, Dave. 462 00:21:51,667 --> 00:21:54,250 Isn't it a bit difficult to hunt for geese without a shotgun? 463 00:21:54,333 --> 00:21:55,125 Well... 464 00:22:00,083 --> 00:22:01,667 Yes, I remember now. 465 00:22:01,750 --> 00:22:03,833 I'm sorry, Mr. Garrison. I got confused. 466 00:22:04,167 --> 00:22:05,458 We got out near the geese, 467 00:22:05,708 --> 00:22:08,625 and only then did we realize we had forgotten our shotguns. 468 00:22:09,542 --> 00:22:10,583 Stupid, right? 469 00:22:11,667 --> 00:22:14,250 Uh, so, of course, we didn't get any geese. 470 00:22:15,417 --> 00:22:17,625 I see, Dave. Well, thank you for your time. 471 00:22:18,583 --> 00:22:20,917 I'm sorry that this has to end inconveniently for you, 472 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,208 but I'm going to have to detain you for further questioning by the FBI. 473 00:22:25,167 --> 00:22:26,167 Why, what's wrong? 474 00:22:26,500 --> 00:22:28,917 Dave, I find your story simply not believable. 475 00:22:30,333 --> 00:22:31,125 Really? 476 00:22:31,458 --> 00:22:32,500 Come on. 477 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,000 What part? 478 00:22:56,167 --> 00:22:58,667 Gentlemen, this afternoon the FBI released 479 00:22:58,750 --> 00:23:01,375 David W. Ferrie of New Orleans. 480 00:23:01,458 --> 00:23:04,750 After extensive questioning and a thorough background check, 481 00:23:04,833 --> 00:23:07,708 the Bureau found no evidence that Mr. Ferrie 482 00:23:07,792 --> 00:23:10,083 - knew Lee Harvey Oswald, 483 00:23:10,167 --> 00:23:14,000 or has had any connection with the assassination of President Kennedy. 484 00:23:14,417 --> 00:23:17,125 The special agent in charge would like to make clear 485 00:23:17,875 --> 00:23:20,458 that Mr. Ferrie was brought in for questioning 486 00:23:20,542 --> 00:23:24,083 by the District Attorney of Orleans Parish, not by 487 00:23:24,167 --> 00:23:26,458 - the Federal Bureau of Investigation. - I thought we were on the same side. 488 00:23:26,542 --> 00:23:28,417 What the hell business is it of theirs to say that? 489 00:23:28,583 --> 00:23:30,833 Pretty fast, wasn't it? The way they let him go. 490 00:23:31,708 --> 00:23:33,375 They must know something we don't. 491 00:23:34,958 --> 00:23:36,708 So let's get on with our lives, gentlemen. 492 00:23:37,792 --> 00:23:39,542 We got plenty of home-grown crimes 493 00:23:39,625 --> 00:23:40,792 - to prosecute. - President Johnson 494 00:23:40,875 --> 00:23:42,458 - has announced the creation of 495 00:23:42,542 --> 00:23:44,375 - a Blue Ribbon Presidential Commission 496 00:23:44,458 --> 00:23:45,917 - to probe the events in Dallas. - Goodnight. 497 00:23:46,292 --> 00:23:48,167 The Commission will be headed by Chief Justice 498 00:23:48,250 --> 00:23:50,708 of the United States Supreme Court, Earl Warren, 499 00:23:50,792 --> 00:23:53,125 and is expected to head off several Congressional 500 00:23:53,208 --> 00:23:55,458 and Texas inquiries into the assassination. 501 00:23:55,542 --> 00:23:59,042 On the panel are Allen Dulles, ex-chief of the CIA, 502 00:23:59,125 --> 00:24:00,375 Representative Gerald Ford, 503 00:24:01,542 --> 00:24:02,292 John J. McCloy, 504 00:24:02,375 --> 00:24:04,000 former head of the Chase Manhattan Bank... 505 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,542 Fucking out of control. 506 00:24:08,875 --> 00:24:11,625 All these hippies running around on drugs. 507 00:24:12,208 --> 00:24:13,250 The way young people look, 508 00:24:13,333 --> 00:24:15,792 you can't tell a boy from a girl anymore. 509 00:24:16,083 --> 00:24:17,625 I saw a girl the other day. 510 00:24:17,708 --> 00:24:18,833 She was pregnant. 511 00:24:18,917 --> 00:24:20,667 You could see her whole belly. 512 00:24:21,083 --> 00:24:23,042 And you know what she had painted on it? 513 00:24:23,417 --> 00:24:25,000 "Love Child." 514 00:24:29,375 --> 00:24:31,375 Oh, it's a mess down there, Jim. 515 00:24:32,458 --> 00:24:35,417 We've bitten off more Vietnam than we can possibly chew. 516 00:24:35,833 --> 00:24:39,292 ‘Course it figures with that polecat Lyndon in the White House. 517 00:24:41,125 --> 00:24:43,625 You know, I sometimes think things have gone downhill 518 00:24:43,708 --> 00:24:45,500 since John Kennedy died, Senator. 519 00:24:46,083 --> 00:24:47,750 Oh, don't get me started on that. 520 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,750 Those Warren Commission fellas were picking gnat shit out of pepper. 521 00:24:52,333 --> 00:24:54,792 Nobody's gonna tell me that kid did the shooting job he did 522 00:24:54,875 --> 00:24:56,208 from that damn bookstore. 523 00:24:56,792 --> 00:24:59,083 - Here you go, Senator Long. - Oh, thank you, honey. 524 00:24:59,167 --> 00:25:02,125 I thought the FBI test-fired the rifle to see if it could be done? 525 00:25:02,458 --> 00:25:05,250 Sure, three experts, and not one of them could do it. 526 00:25:05,875 --> 00:25:08,667 They're telling us that Oswald got off three shots 527 00:25:08,750 --> 00:25:12,458 with world-class precision from a manual bolt-action rifle 528 00:25:12,542 --> 00:25:14,333 in less than six seconds, 529 00:25:14,417 --> 00:25:15,875 and, according to his Marine buddies, 530 00:25:15,958 --> 00:25:17,542 he got Maggie's drawers. 531 00:25:17,958 --> 00:25:19,000 You know what that means? 532 00:25:19,083 --> 00:25:20,167 He wasn't any good. 533 00:25:20,750 --> 00:25:22,875 Average man would be lucky to get two shots off. 534 00:25:22,958 --> 00:25:24,583 - And I tell ya, the first shot 535 00:25:24,667 --> 00:25:26,292 - would always be the best. 536 00:25:26,375 --> 00:25:28,458 - Here, the third shot's perfect. 537 00:25:28,542 --> 00:25:31,542 Then they got that crazy bullet zigzagging all over the place, 538 00:25:31,625 --> 00:25:34,292 so it hits Kennedy and Connally seven times. 539 00:25:34,625 --> 00:25:35,375 Ah. 540 00:25:35,458 --> 00:25:36,542 One pristine bullet? 541 00:25:36,625 --> 00:25:38,000 That dog don't hunt. 542 00:25:41,250 --> 00:25:44,417 You know, something's always bothered me about that from day one, too. 543 00:25:44,500 --> 00:25:45,792 Legal representation. 544 00:25:45,875 --> 00:25:47,542 Do you think there were other men involved, Russell? 545 00:25:49,042 --> 00:25:50,625 If I were investigating the case, 546 00:25:50,708 --> 00:25:53,500 I'd round up 100 of the world's best riflemen, 547 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,417 find out which ones were in Dallas that day. 548 00:25:56,750 --> 00:25:57,917 - You been duck hunting? 549 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,375 I think Oswald's a good, old-fashioned decoy. 550 00:26:00,458 --> 00:26:02,542 What'd he say? "I'm just a patsy.” 551 00:26:02,625 --> 00:26:03,833 You better believe it. 552 00:26:12,542 --> 00:26:13,458 Jim? 553 00:26:14,125 --> 00:26:15,042 Honey? 554 00:26:15,625 --> 00:26:17,500 Dinner's just about ready. 555 00:26:19,417 --> 00:26:21,042 Got a surprise for you tonight. 556 00:26:22,042 --> 00:26:23,292 Tried something new. 557 00:26:25,208 --> 00:26:26,167 Jim? 558 00:26:28,417 --> 00:26:29,750 - Jim? - What? 559 00:26:29,917 --> 00:26:30,875 Dinner. 560 00:26:32,375 --> 00:26:35,750 Smells good, but, honey, do you realize that Oswald was interrogated 561 00:26:35,833 --> 00:26:39,167 for 12 hours after the assassination with no lawyer present, 562 00:26:39,250 --> 00:26:41,958 and nobody-- nobody recorded a word of it? 563 00:26:42,542 --> 00:26:44,333 - Huh. - I can't believe it. 564 00:26:44,667 --> 00:26:47,542 A police captain with 30 years experience and a crowd of federal agents 565 00:26:47,625 --> 00:26:49,417 just had to know that with no record 566 00:26:49,500 --> 00:26:52,375 anything that Oswald says is gonna be inadmissible in court. 567 00:26:52,458 --> 00:26:54,333 Well, honey, why don't we talk about it at the dinner table. 568 00:26:54,417 --> 00:26:55,333 It's getting cold. 569 00:26:55,417 --> 00:26:57,542 Jasper, what are you doing in here? 570 00:26:57,625 --> 00:27:00,417 Daddy said it was all right if I was real quiet. 571 00:27:00,500 --> 00:27:01,375 Sure, it is. 572 00:27:01,667 --> 00:27:04,708 Honey, if I ever handled a minor felon like that, it'd be all over the papers. 573 00:27:04,792 --> 00:27:06,583 And this is the alleged murderer of the president! 574 00:27:11,625 --> 00:27:13,167 - Do you really think so? 575 00:27:13,250 --> 00:27:14,625 - Yeah. Again and again, 576 00:27:14,708 --> 00:27:17,167 - credible testimony is ignored, 577 00:27:17,250 --> 00:27:20,333 leads are never followed up, its conclusions selective, 578 00:27:20,917 --> 00:27:22,875 there's no index, it's one of the sloppiest, 579 00:27:22,958 --> 00:27:25,875 most disorganized investigations I've ever seen. 580 00:27:26,500 --> 00:27:29,333 You know, dozens and dozens of witnesses in Dealey Plaza that day 581 00:27:29,417 --> 00:27:32,042 are saying they heard shots coming from the grassy knoll area 582 00:27:32,125 --> 00:27:35,333 in front of Kennedy, not the book depository behind him, 583 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,292 but it's all broken down and spread around, 584 00:27:38,375 --> 00:27:40,333 and you read it and the point gets lost. 585 00:27:40,875 --> 00:27:42,292 I never did believe it. 586 00:27:43,083 --> 00:27:45,667 Mattie, I'll do the dishes. You take Eb on up. 587 00:27:46,250 --> 00:27:47,125 Night, baby. 588 00:27:47,208 --> 00:27:49,583 Elizabeth, honey, your bedtime, too. 589 00:27:49,792 --> 00:27:51,625 Honey, that was three years ago. 590 00:27:51,708 --> 00:27:53,750 We've all tried so hard to put it out of our minds, 591 00:27:53,833 --> 00:27:55,833 you just keep digging it up again. 592 00:27:56,250 --> 00:27:57,875 You're the DA of New Orleans. 593 00:27:58,375 --> 00:28:01,208 Don't you think the Kennedy assassination is a little bit out of your domain? 594 00:28:02,292 --> 00:28:04,500 I mean all those important people already studied it. 595 00:28:04,583 --> 00:28:07,208 All right, I just can't believe a man as intelligent as Earl Warren 596 00:28:07,292 --> 00:28:09,125 ever read what was in those volumes. 597 00:28:09,500 --> 00:28:10,333 Well... 598 00:28:10,417 --> 00:28:12,042 I mean, maybe you're right. 599 00:28:12,583 --> 00:28:14,708 I'll give you one hour to solve the case, 600 00:28:15,125 --> 00:28:17,167 till I can get these kids in bed, 601 00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:19,375 and then you're mine, 602 00:28:19,542 --> 00:28:21,583 and Mr. Kennedy will have to wait until morning. 603 00:28:26,833 --> 00:28:28,875 Daddy, look what I drew. 604 00:28:29,667 --> 00:28:31,333 Well that's something, Jasper. What is it? 605 00:28:31,417 --> 00:28:33,625 - It's a rhino in a cage. - Mm-hmm. 606 00:28:33,708 --> 00:28:36,625 - Can I stay up another hour? - I don't think so, son. 607 00:28:36,708 --> 00:28:38,250 - Aw, Papa. - Pickle and Snapper. 608 00:28:38,333 --> 00:28:41,292 My two favorite dancing partners. 609 00:28:41,417 --> 00:28:43,417 - All right. Goodnight, doodle bugs. 610 00:28:43,792 --> 00:28:45,792 - Goodnight. - One hour, you hear? 611 00:28:46,292 --> 00:28:48,458 - Hmm? - Some Saturday night date you are. 612 00:28:49,292 --> 00:28:53,000 Mama warned me this would happen if I married such a serious man as you. 613 00:28:53,083 --> 00:28:54,500 - Oh, she did, huh? - Mm-hmm. 614 00:28:54,583 --> 00:28:55,375 Well, when I come up, 615 00:28:55,458 --> 00:28:57,333 I want to show you how Saturday night got invented. 616 00:28:57,417 --> 00:28:58,167 All right? 617 00:29:22,542 --> 00:29:23,958 I sealed off the area, 618 00:29:24,042 --> 00:29:26,833 and I held off the trains until they could be examined, 619 00:29:27,333 --> 00:29:30,792 and there were some transients taken on at least one train. 620 00:29:32,417 --> 00:29:35,000 Mr. Bowers, I believe you already talked to us 621 00:29:35,083 --> 00:29:37,750 about this matter before your deposition, is that correct? 622 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,208 Yes. 623 00:29:39,333 --> 00:29:41,542 Now, is there anything else you told us 624 00:29:41,625 --> 00:29:44,542 that I haven't asked you about that you can think of? 625 00:29:46,083 --> 00:29:47,792 Nothing that I can recall. 626 00:29:48,917 --> 00:29:50,375 Witness is excused. 627 00:29:52,250 --> 00:29:53,958 Well, we got a long freight that was in there. 628 00:29:54,042 --> 00:29:56,000 We pulled some people off there and took them to the station. 629 00:30:00,583 --> 00:30:01,958 Do you mean some transients? 630 00:30:02,625 --> 00:30:03,917 Tramps and hoboes. 631 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,375 And were all those questioned? 632 00:30:05,833 --> 00:30:07,792 Yes, sir, they were taken to the station and questioned. 633 00:30:08,292 --> 00:30:09,125 And? 634 00:30:09,208 --> 00:30:11,625 Ask the question, ask the question. 635 00:30:11,708 --> 00:30:14,042 All right, let's go back to that Amos Euins matter. 636 00:30:14,250 --> 00:30:15,125 Uh, yes, sir. 637 00:30:15,792 --> 00:30:19,625 Traffic had been cut off into the area since about 10:00, 638 00:30:19,792 --> 00:30:25,250 but there were three cars that came in during this time, from around noon 639 00:30:25,333 --> 00:30:26,917 - till the time of the shooting. 640 00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:30,375 The cars circled the parking lot and left, 641 00:30:30,458 --> 00:30:32,417 like they was checking the area. 642 00:30:34,042 --> 00:30:38,500 And one of the drivers seemed to have something he was holding up to his mouth. 643 00:30:40,292 --> 00:30:46,500 That last car came in about seven to 10 minutes before the shooting. 644 00:30:46,958 --> 00:30:50,958 It was a white Chevrolet, four-door Impala, 645 00:30:51,042 --> 00:30:52,542 muddy up to the windows. 646 00:30:53,667 --> 00:30:56,458 Um... towards the underpass, 647 00:30:56,542 --> 00:30:57,833 I saw two men. 648 00:30:57,917 --> 00:31:00,417 They were standing behind a picket fence. 649 00:31:00,958 --> 00:31:03,083 They were looking up towards Main and Houston, 650 00:31:03,167 --> 00:31:05,417 - following the caravan as it came down. 651 00:31:06,375 --> 00:31:10,583 Uh... one of them was middle-aged, heavyset. 652 00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:13,042 The other man was younger. 653 00:31:14,042 --> 00:31:15,042 There were two other men. 654 00:31:15,125 --> 00:31:17,375 They were on the eastern end of the parking lot, 655 00:31:17,458 --> 00:31:19,917 - and each of them had uniforms. 656 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,583 At the time of the shooting, there seemed to be some 657 00:31:24,667 --> 00:31:25,875 commotion. 658 00:31:27,292 --> 00:31:29,917 I just am unable to describe... 659 00:31:31,250 --> 00:31:33,167 - A flash of light or smoke or... 660 00:31:33,250 --> 00:31:34,875 - something... 661 00:31:34,958 --> 00:31:36,542 - which caused me to feel that 662 00:31:36,625 --> 00:31:39,292 something out of the ordinary had occurred there, 663 00:31:39,375 --> 00:31:40,708 - on the embankment. 664 00:31:40,792 --> 00:31:41,875 Goddamn. 665 00:31:59,083 --> 00:31:59,917 No! 666 00:32:02,542 --> 00:32:03,292 Jim? 667 00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:07,792 - You all right? - Oh, honey, it's incredible. 668 00:32:08,833 --> 00:32:09,833 What? 669 00:32:10,625 --> 00:32:11,792 The whole thing. 670 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,208 A lieutenant colonel testifies that 671 00:32:15,292 --> 00:32:19,375 Lee Oswald was given a Russian language exam as part of his Marine training 672 00:32:19,458 --> 00:32:20,875 - only a few months before he defects 673 00:32:20,958 --> 00:32:22,292 to the Soviet Union. 674 00:32:22,792 --> 00:32:24,458 - A Russian exam! - I can't believe it. 675 00:32:24,708 --> 00:32:27,250 Honey, it's 4:30 in the morning! 676 00:32:27,667 --> 00:32:28,583 I have five kids 677 00:32:28,667 --> 00:32:30,917 - gonna be awake in an hour and-- - Honey, in all my years in the military, 678 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,500 I never knew a single man who was given a Russian test. 679 00:32:35,083 --> 00:32:37,208 Oswald was a radar operator. He-- 680 00:32:37,542 --> 00:32:39,250 He'd have about as much use for-- 681 00:32:39,333 --> 00:32:42,125 - for Russian as a cat has for pajamas. - These books... 682 00:32:42,208 --> 00:32:44,167 have gotten to your mind, Mr. Garrison. 683 00:32:44,250 --> 00:32:45,167 And then this-- this colonel. 684 00:32:45,250 --> 00:32:47,500 - He makes it sound like nothing, he says - I wish you'd stop reading them. 685 00:32:47,583 --> 00:32:49,833 - Oswald did badly on his test. He-- 686 00:32:49,917 --> 00:32:53,250 he got only two more Russian words right than wrong. 687 00:32:53,542 --> 00:32:55,750 - Ha! That's like me saying Touchdown here 688 00:32:55,833 --> 00:32:59,208 is not very intelligent because I beat him three games out of five 689 00:32:59,292 --> 00:33:01,125 the last time we played chess. 690 00:33:01,208 --> 00:33:02,792 What? Are you gonna... 691 00:33:02,875 --> 00:33:05,500 stay up all night every night, for what? 692 00:33:05,583 --> 00:33:08,958 So you'll be the only man in America that's read all 26 volumes 693 00:33:09,042 --> 00:33:11,125 - of the Warren Report? - Do I have to spell it out for you? 694 00:33:12,542 --> 00:33:15,083 Lee Oswald was no ordinary soldier, he was-- 695 00:33:16,208 --> 00:33:17,667 He was probably in military intelligence. 696 00:33:17,750 --> 00:33:19,042 That's why he was trained in Russian. 697 00:33:19,125 --> 00:33:21,083 - Let's go back to sleep. - There's no accident he's in Russia. 698 00:33:21,167 --> 00:33:22,458 Let's go back to sleep. 699 00:33:22,542 --> 00:33:25,375 Goddammit, dear, I've been sleeping for three years! 700 00:33:43,375 --> 00:33:44,458 Morning, boys. 701 00:33:44,875 --> 00:33:46,083 Ready for a walking tour? 702 00:33:46,167 --> 00:33:47,375 7:30 Sunday morning. 703 00:33:47,458 --> 00:33:49,875 It's not exactly fresh blood we're sniffing here, boss. 704 00:33:50,125 --> 00:33:52,042 Old stains, Bill, but just as telling. 705 00:34:00,125 --> 00:34:01,875 531 Lafayette Street. 706 00:34:02,708 --> 00:34:04,833 Remember whose office this was in '63? 707 00:34:06,458 --> 00:34:08,125 Sure, Guy Banister. 708 00:34:08,833 --> 00:34:10,167 Ex-FBI man. 709 00:34:10,625 --> 00:34:11,917 Died couple years ago. 710 00:34:14,333 --> 00:34:16,375 Banister headed the Chicago office. 711 00:34:16,458 --> 00:34:18,542 When he retired, he became a private eye here. 712 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,333 I used to have lunch with him. 713 00:34:20,667 --> 00:34:22,375 John Birch Society, Minutemen. 714 00:34:22,458 --> 00:34:25,333 - Oh yeah, I remember him now. - Slightly to the right of Attila the Hun. 715 00:34:25,417 --> 00:34:26,750 He used to recruit college students 716 00:34:26,833 --> 00:34:29,375 to infiltrate radical organizations on campus. 717 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,625 Headed the Anti-Communist League of the Caribbean. 718 00:34:33,583 --> 00:34:34,833 All out of this office. 719 00:34:38,708 --> 00:34:40,250 Come around here, I want to show you something. 720 00:34:45,417 --> 00:34:46,375 See that? 721 00:34:48,875 --> 00:34:50,208 Now, take a look here. 722 00:34:51,042 --> 00:34:52,833 544 Camp Street. 723 00:34:53,833 --> 00:34:55,708 531 Lafayette Street. 724 00:34:56,458 --> 00:34:57,583 Same building, right? 725 00:34:58,417 --> 00:35:00,750 But with different addresses and different entrances, 726 00:35:00,833 --> 00:35:02,375 both going to the same place, 727 00:35:02,792 --> 00:35:04,333 to the office upstairs. 728 00:35:05,333 --> 00:35:06,750 Guess who used this address? 729 00:35:09,292 --> 00:35:10,750 Lee Harvey Oswald. 730 00:35:12,250 --> 00:35:13,875 Now how do we know he was here? 731 00:35:14,458 --> 00:35:16,000 ‘Cause this office address was stamped 732 00:35:16,083 --> 00:35:17,583 on the pro-Castro leaflets 733 00:35:17,667 --> 00:35:19,417 he was handing out in the summer of '63 734 00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:20,792 down on Canal Street. 735 00:35:21,417 --> 00:35:24,042 Now these are the same leaflets they found in his garage in Dallas. 736 00:35:24,125 --> 00:35:25,208 What's this? 737 00:35:25,458 --> 00:35:27,292 What the hell is this doing on this piece of paper? 738 00:35:27,375 --> 00:35:29,458 After the arrest, 544 Camp Street 739 00:35:29,542 --> 00:35:31,292 never appeared on the pamphlets again. 740 00:35:31,375 --> 00:35:32,500 Asshole. 741 00:35:32,750 --> 00:35:36,333 He was arrested that day for fighting with some anti-Castro Cubans, 742 00:35:37,167 --> 00:35:38,500 but actually he had contacted them 743 00:35:38,583 --> 00:35:40,375 a few days earlier as an ex-Marine 744 00:35:40,458 --> 00:35:43,000 trying to join their anti-Castro crusade. 745 00:35:43,625 --> 00:35:45,792 When they heard he was now pro-Castro... 746 00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:48,000 well, they paid him a visit. 747 00:35:48,625 --> 00:35:49,833 What is this Fidel shit? 748 00:35:50,083 --> 00:35:51,958 You lied to me, you hypocrite! 749 00:35:52,417 --> 00:35:53,750 Liar! Son of a bitch! 750 00:35:54,583 --> 00:35:55,750 People, do not take this paper. 751 00:35:55,833 --> 00:35:57,458 This is communist propaganda. 752 00:35:57,917 --> 00:36:00,042 Carlos, if you want to hit me, hit me. 753 00:36:00,125 --> 00:36:01,750 Come on, you pinko shit. 754 00:36:01,833 --> 00:36:03,458 Go back to Moscow, communist! 755 00:36:03,542 --> 00:36:05,125 - There was no real fight, 756 00:36:05,417 --> 00:36:08,833 and the arresting lieutenant later said he felt it was a staged incident. 757 00:36:08,917 --> 00:36:09,917 - Break it up! 758 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,208 In jail, Oswald has a private session 759 00:36:12,292 --> 00:36:14,917 with Special Agent John Quigley of the FBI. 760 00:36:16,208 --> 00:36:17,542 Oswald is released, 761 00:36:17,792 --> 00:36:20,208 and Quigley destroys his notes from the interview. 762 00:36:21,083 --> 00:36:23,875 The arrest gets him a lot of publicity and as a result... 763 00:36:24,333 --> 00:36:26,875 Oswald appears on a local TV debate. 764 00:36:26,958 --> 00:36:29,083 But you-- you are a communist, are you not? 765 00:36:29,167 --> 00:36:30,458 Uh, no, Mr. Bringuier. 766 00:36:30,792 --> 00:36:33,125 Uh, I am not a communist. 767 00:36:33,208 --> 00:36:34,500 I'm a Marxist-Leninist. 768 00:36:34,583 --> 00:36:36,958 You are not a communist, but you are a Marxist-Leninist? 769 00:36:37,042 --> 00:36:38,083 What is the difference? 770 00:36:38,167 --> 00:36:39,292 Now, here's another one for you. 771 00:36:39,375 --> 00:36:40,917 What would you say if I told you... 772 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,542 Lee Oswald was trained in the Russian language when he was a Marine? 773 00:36:44,625 --> 00:36:46,792 I'd say he was probably getting intelligence training. 774 00:36:46,875 --> 00:36:48,042 Well, Lou, you were in the Marines. 775 00:36:48,125 --> 00:36:49,292 Who would be running that training? 776 00:36:49,375 --> 00:36:50,917 Office of Naval Intelligence. 777 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,417 Take a look across the street. 778 00:36:54,500 --> 00:36:55,375 Post office. 779 00:36:56,167 --> 00:36:59,958 Upstairs in 1963, that was the Office of Naval Intelligence. 780 00:37:00,292 --> 00:37:03,958 And just by coincidence, Banister, before he was FBI, was ONI. 781 00:37:04,625 --> 00:37:06,083 And what's that little saying they have? 782 00:37:06,333 --> 00:37:08,208 "Once ONI, always ONL." 783 00:37:08,500 --> 00:37:11,083 Well, he likes working near his old pals. 784 00:37:12,292 --> 00:37:13,125 Bill... 785 00:37:14,542 --> 00:37:17,333 Lou, we are standing in the heart of the United States government's 786 00:37:17,417 --> 00:37:19,750 intelligence community in New Orleans. 787 00:37:20,292 --> 00:37:23,125 That's the FBI there, all right? That's the CIA. 788 00:37:23,292 --> 00:37:24,833 That's the Secret Service. 789 00:37:24,917 --> 00:37:26,042 That's the ONI. 790 00:37:26,208 --> 00:37:27,417 Now, doesn't this seem to you... 791 00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:30,958 a rather strange place for a communist to spend his spare time? 792 00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:35,958 What you driving at, boss? 793 00:37:39,542 --> 00:37:41,250 We're going back into the case, Lou. 794 00:37:42,500 --> 00:37:43,792 Murder of the president. 795 00:37:44,250 --> 00:37:46,833 Good Lord, wake me up, I must be dreaming. 796 00:37:46,917 --> 00:37:48,958 No, you're awake, Bill, and I'm deadly serious. 797 00:37:49,458 --> 00:37:51,583 We're going to start by tracking down your anonymous source 798 00:37:51,667 --> 00:37:52,583 from three years ago. 799 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,792 Now how'd you find out David Ferrie drove to Texas that day? 800 00:37:56,292 --> 00:37:58,000 Hell, I can't remember last night, 801 00:37:58,083 --> 00:37:59,792 let alone three years ago, boss. 802 00:38:04,667 --> 00:38:06,750 You're not under cross-examination here, Jack. 803 00:38:06,833 --> 00:38:09,125 What I need is a little clarification about the night 804 00:38:09,208 --> 00:38:11,000 - Guy Banister beat you over the head. 805 00:38:11,667 --> 00:38:13,625 Now don't tell me you don't remember that, 806 00:38:13,708 --> 00:38:15,292 all right, ‘cause you called our office. 807 00:38:15,375 --> 00:38:17,083 You called our office from your hospital bed, 808 00:38:17,167 --> 00:38:18,833 and you were hopping mad about it. 809 00:38:19,792 --> 00:38:21,125 Now, here's my problem. 810 00:38:21,917 --> 00:38:24,667 You told me you and Guy were good friends for a long time. 811 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,500 More than 10 years. 812 00:38:26,583 --> 00:38:29,167 - And he never hit you before? - No, he never touched me. 813 00:38:30,250 --> 00:38:32,667 Yet on November 22nd, 1963, 814 00:38:32,750 --> 00:38:34,042 - the day of the president's murder, 815 00:38:34,125 --> 00:38:36,417 - the police report says... 816 00:38:37,542 --> 00:38:40,750 Says he pistol-whipped you with a .357 Magnum. 817 00:38:41,375 --> 00:38:43,958 It also says you had an argument about the phone bill. 818 00:38:44,042 --> 00:38:45,875 - Here, take a look at it. 819 00:38:45,958 --> 00:38:48,333 Well, does a simple argument over a phone bill sound like 820 00:38:48,417 --> 00:38:50,042 a believable explanation to you? 821 00:38:53,250 --> 00:38:54,708 There's more to it than that. 822 00:38:56,250 --> 00:38:57,292 How much more? 823 00:38:57,833 --> 00:38:59,583 I don't think I should talk about it. 824 00:38:59,667 --> 00:39:01,625 Well, I'd ask Guy, we were friendly, you know. 825 00:39:01,875 --> 00:39:03,083 Heart attack, wasn't it? 826 00:39:03,583 --> 00:39:05,458 You buy what you read in the papers. 827 00:39:05,625 --> 00:39:06,667 You have other information? 828 00:39:06,750 --> 00:39:08,375 - I didn't say that. - You have other information? 829 00:39:08,458 --> 00:39:11,208 I didn't say that. All I know is that he died suddenly. 830 00:39:11,958 --> 00:39:14,292 Just before the Warren Report came out. 831 00:39:16,250 --> 00:39:17,625 Why did Guy beat you, Jack? 832 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,583 You didn't see a goddamn thing! You didn't see a goddamn thing! 833 00:39:26,125 --> 00:39:27,333 You're the only one in the place! 834 00:39:34,042 --> 00:39:36,167 You didn't see a goddamn thing! 835 00:39:36,792 --> 00:39:39,667 Oh, hell. I guess since Guy's dead, it don't matter no more. 836 00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:41,958 It was about all those... 837 00:39:42,042 --> 00:39:45,458 people that was hanging around the office that summer. 838 00:39:46,458 --> 00:39:48,833 See, I was never part of the operation, you know. 839 00:39:48,917 --> 00:39:51,042 I was just there taking care of their private eye work, 840 00:39:51,125 --> 00:39:52,708 you know, as it came in for Guy. 841 00:39:52,792 --> 00:39:55,000 Not much did, but that's why I was there. 842 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,833 It was a nuthouse. 843 00:39:59,833 --> 00:40:02,042 All the Cubans coming and going. 844 00:40:02,125 --> 00:40:04,417 I mean, Christ, they all looked the same to me. 845 00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:08,083 You gonna play with this rifle or you gonna pack it? Come on. 846 00:40:08,583 --> 00:40:10,125 Dave Ferrie. 847 00:40:10,292 --> 00:40:11,292 You know about him? 848 00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:13,833 - Yeah, we know Dave. Was he there? - Mmm. 849 00:40:13,917 --> 00:40:15,208 Christ, he practically lived there. 850 00:40:15,292 --> 00:40:16,833 Don't fuck this one up. 851 00:40:18,167 --> 00:40:20,583 See, the whole thing it was... 852 00:40:20,667 --> 00:40:22,875 the whole cloak and dagger stuff, you know. 853 00:40:22,958 --> 00:40:25,042 They called it "Operation Mongoose." 854 00:40:26,958 --> 00:40:29,667 Whole idea was they were gonna train these Cuban exiles, you know, 855 00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:31,833 - for another invasion of Cuba. - Mm-hmm. 856 00:40:31,917 --> 00:40:33,125 Why, hell, Banister's office, 857 00:40:33,208 --> 00:40:35,125 that was part of the supply line, you know, 858 00:40:35,208 --> 00:40:36,833 from Dallas through New Orleans to Miami. 859 00:40:36,917 --> 00:40:39,500 - They were stockpiling arms, explosives. 860 00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:41,958 All this right under the noses of the intelligence community 861 00:40:42,042 --> 00:40:44,125 - in Lafayette Square? - Yeah, oh yeah. 862 00:40:44,208 --> 00:40:45,750 Everybody knew everybody, you know, 863 00:40:45,833 --> 00:40:47,458 they were all part of the network. 864 00:40:47,875 --> 00:40:50,417 They were all working for the CIA! 865 00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:53,000 You know, pilots, and them Black Operators, 866 00:40:53,083 --> 00:40:55,542 and the-- the civilians, and military. 867 00:40:55,625 --> 00:40:58,542 Hell, everybody in those days was running guns somewhere. 868 00:40:59,083 --> 00:41:02,500 Fort Jefferson, Bayou Bluff, Morgan City, you name it. 869 00:41:02,583 --> 00:41:05,417 Oh, McAllen, Texas, yeah, big gun-running operation. 870 00:41:09,667 --> 00:41:12,083 Banister. Now, tell-- where-- Where does he fit in all this? 871 00:41:12,167 --> 00:41:14,625 He was running his camp up north of Lake Pontchartrain. 872 00:41:14,708 --> 00:41:17,000 You know, Ferrie was doing a lot of the training. 873 00:41:17,083 --> 00:41:18,958 - They had a shooting range. 874 00:41:19,167 --> 00:41:21,667 Lot of tropical territory, you know, like you got in Cuba. 875 00:41:22,292 --> 00:41:24,125 - Some Americans were trained there, too. 876 00:41:24,208 --> 00:41:27,042 - A few. Nazi types, mercenaries. 877 00:41:27,792 --> 00:41:30,333 Ferrie, though, Jesus, he was the craziest. 878 00:41:32,167 --> 00:41:33,500 Anyway, late summer, the whole-- 879 00:41:33,583 --> 00:41:34,792 the party was over. 880 00:41:34,875 --> 00:41:38,208 ‘Cause Kennedy didn't want another one of them Bay of Pigs, so he... 881 00:41:38,708 --> 00:41:40,833 - he told the FBI, "Shut up the camps,” 882 00:41:40,917 --> 00:41:44,250 you know, and confiscate the napalm, C-4, and the stuff like that. 883 00:41:44,542 --> 00:41:45,917 So I think that the G-men, 884 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,042 they were just going through the motions for Washington. 885 00:41:48,125 --> 00:41:52,083 See, their hearts were still with their old FBI buddy Banister. 886 00:41:54,333 --> 00:41:55,208 Oswald? 887 00:41:59,042 --> 00:41:59,792 Yeah. 888 00:42:00,208 --> 00:42:01,875 - Yeah, what? - He was there, too. He was there. 889 00:42:01,958 --> 00:42:04,875 He was there, sometimes meeting with Banister. 890 00:42:05,208 --> 00:42:07,833 Give me an allowance, you know, because I got expenses... 891 00:42:08,167 --> 00:42:09,333 With the door shut. 892 00:42:11,333 --> 00:42:12,417 Other times... 893 00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:14,917 you know, shooting the bull with Ferrie, 894 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,458 whatever, but he was there, all right. 895 00:42:16,750 --> 00:42:18,667 Anything more specific, Jack? 896 00:42:19,125 --> 00:42:20,208 It's important. 897 00:42:24,083 --> 00:42:27,042 One time the secretary got upset, I remember. 898 00:42:27,125 --> 00:42:28,417 I can't believe it, Mr. Banister. 899 00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:30,167 Lee Oswald is down on Canal Street 900 00:42:30,250 --> 00:42:32,958 handing out communist leaflets supporting Castro. 901 00:42:38,083 --> 00:42:39,583 It's okay, Delphine. 902 00:42:39,667 --> 00:42:42,292 He's with us, it's okay. 903 00:42:43,417 --> 00:42:46,333 Was anyone else involved at Banister's level? 904 00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:49,958 Oh, yeah. One guy, I don't know. 905 00:42:50,458 --> 00:42:52,250 Big, white hair. 906 00:42:53,167 --> 00:42:54,792 I saw him come in the office once, 907 00:42:54,875 --> 00:42:56,792 but he looked out of place. 908 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,792 You know, like a society guy. 909 00:42:59,292 --> 00:43:01,667 And I can't remember his name, but Oswald was with him. 910 00:43:04,125 --> 00:43:06,542 But he had something to do with money ‘cause Banister, you know, 911 00:43:06,625 --> 00:43:07,958 he never kissed anybody's ass-- 912 00:43:08,042 --> 00:43:09,125 Ooh, he kissed his. 913 00:43:15,583 --> 00:43:17,250 I don't... uh... 914 00:43:17,333 --> 00:43:18,750 Clay something. 915 00:43:18,833 --> 00:43:20,208 Yeah. That was his name, Clay. 916 00:43:20,292 --> 00:43:21,375 - Clay. - Bertrand? 917 00:43:21,458 --> 00:43:23,042 - Bertrand, yeah! Yeah, that-- - Clay Bertrand. 918 00:43:23,125 --> 00:43:24,708 - Clay Bertrand. - Well, I don't know. 919 00:43:24,792 --> 00:43:25,583 I don't know. 920 00:43:25,667 --> 00:43:27,583 - Uh... maybe not. I got to go. - No, that's right. Clay Bertrand. 921 00:43:27,667 --> 00:43:29,125 - No, no. That's right. - No, I got to go. 922 00:43:29,208 --> 00:43:31,542 He was in the Warren Report. He got Oswald a lawyer. 923 00:43:32,625 --> 00:43:35,000 - Was Kennedy ever discussed, Jack? - I don't know. 924 00:43:36,042 --> 00:43:37,792 - The assassination, Jack? - No. 925 00:43:37,875 --> 00:43:38,917 Never. Not with me. 926 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,458 - Look, I've-- I got to go. - Hold on. 927 00:43:40,542 --> 00:43:41,750 - That's all I'm gonna say. - Hold on, Jack. 928 00:43:41,833 --> 00:43:43,083 - I've said enough. - Hold on. What's the problem? 929 00:43:44,458 --> 00:43:46,125 - What's the problem? - What's the problem? 930 00:43:47,208 --> 00:43:49,417 Do I have to spell it out for you, Mr. Garrison? 931 00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:52,125 Nobody knows what we're talking about, here, Jack. 932 00:43:53,667 --> 00:43:55,583 Oh, you are so naive. 933 00:44:05,833 --> 00:44:07,917 When'd you first do business with this Bertrand? 934 00:44:08,250 --> 00:44:10,167 Pipe the bimbo in red. 935 00:44:10,250 --> 00:44:12,292 Mm-hmm. Lordy. 936 00:44:12,375 --> 00:44:13,375 Yeah, she's cute all right, 937 00:44:13,458 --> 00:44:15,000 - but not half as cute as you, Deano. 938 00:44:15,083 --> 00:44:16,042 Thank you. 939 00:44:16,125 --> 00:44:18,292 You should try a legitimate line of business. 940 00:44:18,375 --> 00:44:20,292 Why are you dancing on my head for, my man? 941 00:44:20,375 --> 00:44:22,417 We been thicker than molasses pie since law school. 942 00:44:22,500 --> 00:44:24,208 ‘Cause you keep conning me, Dean, I read your testimony 943 00:44:24,292 --> 00:44:25,833 - to the Warren Commission-- - There you go again! 944 00:44:25,917 --> 00:44:27,333 - Grain of salt! - You tell them the day after 945 00:44:27,417 --> 00:44:28,500 - Two sides to every coin! - the assassination, 946 00:44:28,583 --> 00:44:30,375 you're called on the phone by this Clay Bertrand 947 00:44:30,458 --> 00:44:32,917 and asked to fly to Dallas and be Lee Oswald's lawyer. 948 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:33,750 Right. 949 00:44:34,667 --> 00:44:36,208 That's pretty important, Dean. 950 00:44:36,917 --> 00:44:38,667 You also told the FBI that, when you met him, 951 00:44:38,750 --> 00:44:39,625 he's six foot two, 952 00:44:39,708 --> 00:44:41,583 then you tell the Commission he's five foot eight. 953 00:44:41,833 --> 00:44:44,000 Now how the hell does a man shrink like that, Dean? 954 00:44:44,583 --> 00:44:47,208 They put the heat on, my man, just like you're doing. 955 00:44:47,292 --> 00:44:49,667 I gave them anything that popped in my cabeza. 956 00:44:49,833 --> 00:44:51,500 Truth is, I never met the dude. 957 00:44:51,792 --> 00:44:54,917 Oh, wonderful. One likes friends that have friends. 958 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:55,750 Indeed. 959 00:44:55,833 --> 00:44:57,083 I don't know what the cat looks like, 960 00:44:57,167 --> 00:44:58,792 and, furthermore, I don't know where he's at. 961 00:44:59,125 --> 00:45:01,958 All I know is sometimes he sends me some cases. 962 00:45:02,125 --> 00:45:03,375 So one day he's on the phone, 963 00:45:03,458 --> 00:45:05,917 talking to me about going to Dallas, repping Oswald. 964 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,667 Did you ever speak to Oswald in Dallas? 965 00:45:07,750 --> 00:45:08,500 Hell, no. 966 00:45:08,583 --> 00:45:10,333 Like I told that Bertrand cat right off-- 967 00:45:10,417 --> 00:45:11,208 Cashew piece? 968 00:45:11,292 --> 00:45:12,292 This ain't my scene, man. 969 00:45:12,375 --> 00:45:14,625 I deal in muni court. I'm a hack in nigger town. 970 00:45:14,708 --> 00:45:16,958 Then how'd the hell did your name get in the Warren Commission, Dean? 971 00:45:17,500 --> 00:45:19,792 Like I told to the Washington boys, 972 00:45:19,875 --> 00:45:21,208 Bertrand called that summer 973 00:45:21,292 --> 00:45:23,917 and asked me to help the kid upgrade his Marine discharge. 974 00:45:24,042 --> 00:45:25,875 Well, I was led to believe that, uh, 975 00:45:25,958 --> 00:45:28,500 Mr. Bertrand said that he would take care of any-- 976 00:45:28,583 --> 00:45:29,333 Oh, that's fine. 977 00:45:29,417 --> 00:45:30,625 Hello, to whom am I speaking? 978 00:45:30,708 --> 00:45:33,208 I'm Clay Bertrand. Whatever they owe, I guarantee. 979 00:45:33,292 --> 00:45:34,500 There wasn't no conspiracy, Jim. 980 00:45:34,583 --> 00:45:37,917 If there were, why the hell didn't Bobby Kennedy prosecute it as attorney general? 981 00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,625 He was his brother, for Christ's sake. 982 00:45:40,542 --> 00:45:43,417 How the fuck all those people could keep a secret like that, I don't know. 983 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,000 It was Oswald. 984 00:45:45,083 --> 00:45:46,625 - He was a fruitcake, you know. - I think we're having 985 00:45:46,708 --> 00:45:47,958 - Hated this country. - a communication problem, Dean. 986 00:45:48,042 --> 00:45:49,958 I know you know who Clay Bertrand is, all right? 987 00:45:50,125 --> 00:45:52,667 Now stop eating that damn crabmeat a minute and listen. 988 00:45:52,750 --> 00:45:54,208 I'm aware of our friendship... 989 00:45:54,917 --> 00:45:57,458 but I want you to know I'm gonna call you in front of the grand jury. 990 00:45:57,958 --> 00:46:00,083 And you lie to the grand jury as you've been lying to me, 991 00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:01,792 I'm gonna charge you with perjury. 992 00:46:02,083 --> 00:46:04,958 All right, I took nine judges on right here in New Orleans, Deano. 993 00:46:05,042 --> 00:46:05,792 I beat 'em all. 994 00:46:06,167 --> 00:46:07,875 So am I communicating with you? 995 00:46:09,708 --> 00:46:11,167 Is this off the record, Daddy-0? 996 00:46:12,500 --> 00:46:13,250 Good. 997 00:46:13,333 --> 00:46:15,250 In that case, let me sum it up for you real quick. 998 00:46:20,042 --> 00:46:22,250 If I answer that question you keep asking... 999 00:46:23,667 --> 00:46:25,958 if I give you the name of the big enchilada, you know... 1000 00:46:27,833 --> 00:46:29,292 then it's "bon voyage, Deano." 1001 00:46:29,375 --> 00:46:30,375 I mean like permanent. 1002 00:46:30,458 --> 00:46:32,500 I mean like a bullet in my head, you dig? 1003 00:46:32,792 --> 00:46:34,625 You're a mouse fighting a gorilla. 1004 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,667 Kennedy is as dead as that crabmeat. 1005 00:46:37,125 --> 00:46:38,208 The government's still breathing. 1006 00:46:38,292 --> 00:46:40,208 - You wanna line up with a dead man? - Read my lips, Deano. 1007 00:46:40,292 --> 00:46:43,458 Either you dance into the grand jury with the real identity of Clay Bertrand 1008 00:46:43,542 --> 00:46:45,292 or your fat behind is going to the slammer. 1009 00:46:45,375 --> 00:46:46,333 Now, do you dig me? 1010 00:46:46,417 --> 00:46:48,208 - You're as crazy as your mama. 1011 00:46:48,792 --> 00:46:50,125 Goes to show it's in the genes. 1012 00:46:50,458 --> 00:46:52,583 You have any idea what you're getting yourself into, Daddy-o0? 1013 00:46:53,375 --> 00:46:56,000 The government's gonna jump all over your head, Jimbo, 1014 00:46:56,167 --> 00:46:57,833 and go "cock-a-doodle-doo." 1015 00:46:58,417 --> 00:46:59,583 Good day to you, sir. 1016 00:47:05,292 --> 00:47:08,292 District Attorney Garrison to see Prisoner 5388, 1017 00:47:08,833 --> 00:47:10,583 Ward Block 237B. 1018 00:47:24,250 --> 00:47:27,083 We don't need no gates out there with that swamp. 1019 00:47:27,500 --> 00:47:29,750 Many of 'em gone in there, ain't none of 'em come out. 1020 00:47:36,708 --> 00:47:37,458 Hey, Willie! 1021 00:47:38,083 --> 00:47:39,000 O'Keefe! 1022 00:47:45,042 --> 00:47:46,333 You got visitors here. 1023 00:47:46,500 --> 00:47:48,250 You don't give ‘em no trouble now, you hear me boy? 1024 00:47:48,792 --> 00:47:51,125 - How you doing, Mr. Broussard? - Hey, let's go, Willie. 1025 00:48:03,833 --> 00:48:06,167 I want to thank you, Mr. O'Keefe, for this time. 1026 00:48:06,958 --> 00:48:09,083 I ain't got nothin' but time, Mr. Garrison. 1027 00:48:09,417 --> 00:48:11,708 Minutes, hours, days, years of 'em. 1028 00:48:12,208 --> 00:48:14,250 Time just stands still here, 1029 00:48:14,333 --> 00:48:16,708 like a snake sunnin' itself on the road. 1030 00:48:17,083 --> 00:48:18,292 - Clay Bertrand, Willie? 1031 00:48:19,542 --> 00:48:20,542 Yeah, Clay. 1032 00:48:22,125 --> 00:48:27,583 I met him sometime in June of '62 at the Masquerade Bar. 1033 00:48:27,958 --> 00:48:31,250 Dave Ferrie took me there, for the express reason to meet him. 1034 00:48:31,333 --> 00:48:32,583 For sexual purposes? 1035 00:48:32,833 --> 00:48:33,708 Well, yeah. 1036 00:48:34,208 --> 00:48:35,583 Did he pay you for this? 1037 00:48:35,792 --> 00:48:37,667 Twenty dollars each time. Hell, ain't no secret. 1038 00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:39,083 That's why I'm in here for. 1039 00:48:39,500 --> 00:48:41,750 Anything else unusual about him you'd be able 1040 00:48:41,833 --> 00:48:43,375 - to describe in a court of law? 1041 00:48:43,458 --> 00:48:45,958 I remember he had some kinda thing wrong with his leg. 1042 00:48:46,083 --> 00:48:47,833 He'd limp. You know, don't get me wrong, 1043 00:48:47,917 --> 00:48:49,667 he's not one of those "limp wrists." 1044 00:48:49,917 --> 00:48:52,875 He's a butch John, I mean, you'd meet him on the street, you'd never snap. 1045 00:48:52,958 --> 00:48:54,708 - You could play poker with him, 1046 00:48:54,792 --> 00:48:55,875 go fishing with the man, 1047 00:48:55,958 --> 00:48:57,625 you'd never snap in a million years. 1048 00:48:58,208 --> 00:49:00,708 One night we was over at Dave Ferrie's place having a party. 1049 00:49:00,792 --> 00:49:03,917 It was sometime late in the summer of '63. 1050 00:49:05,458 --> 00:49:08,625 There was about nine or 10 people there. Cubans. 1051 00:49:08,708 --> 00:49:11,625 You know, friends of Dave, been doing some stuff in the bush with him. 1052 00:49:11,708 --> 00:49:14,625 Place was a mess, man. Dave's mind was a mess. 1053 00:49:14,792 --> 00:49:18,125 Has all these mice cages all over ‘cause he's working on this cure for cancer. 1054 00:49:18,458 --> 00:49:20,042 - Viva Cuba libre! 1055 00:49:20,125 --> 00:49:21,667 Dave's smart, though, he's sharp. 1056 00:49:21,875 --> 00:49:23,250 Speaks five languages. 1057 00:49:23,458 --> 00:49:28,000 He knows philosophy, medicine, military history, politics. 1058 00:49:28,625 --> 00:49:30,375 Said he wanted to be a priest but... 1059 00:49:30,708 --> 00:49:32,542 they defrocked him ‘cause he was queer. 1060 00:49:32,792 --> 00:49:34,958 And that's where you met Oswald for the first time? 1061 00:49:35,208 --> 00:49:36,875 - Yeah, strange guy. 1062 00:49:36,958 --> 00:49:38,250 Dave introduced him as... 1063 00:49:38,333 --> 00:49:39,875 Willie, why don't you say hello to Leon Oswald. 1064 00:49:39,958 --> 00:49:41,042 Hey, how you doing, man? 1065 00:49:42,333 --> 00:49:43,750 What the fuck is he doing here? 1066 00:49:44,458 --> 00:49:45,875 Fuck you, motherfucker! 1067 00:49:45,958 --> 00:49:47,583 Okay, okay, come on, come on, come on. 1068 00:49:47,667 --> 00:49:49,583 - Leon's in a bad mood. 1069 00:49:49,667 --> 00:49:51,208 Don't get excited, he's all right. 1070 00:49:51,917 --> 00:49:54,667 Would you say that this "Leon" was actually Lee Harvey Oswald? 1071 00:49:54,750 --> 00:49:55,500 Fuck yeah! 1072 00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:57,625 Hey, man, I got no reason to lie to you. 1073 00:49:57,708 --> 00:49:59,167 I'm already in jail. 1074 00:49:59,750 --> 00:50:00,625 Go on, Willie. 1075 00:50:00,708 --> 00:50:02,042 Finally, they got outta there, 1076 00:50:02,125 --> 00:50:04,542 and I found myself alone with Dave 1077 00:50:04,625 --> 00:50:06,167 and this Leon, 1078 00:50:06,250 --> 00:50:07,333 two of the Cubans, 1079 00:50:07,417 --> 00:50:09,000 and this guy Bertrand. 1080 00:50:09,083 --> 00:50:09,917 Kennedy. 1081 00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,125 - Kennedy. - Dave pulled out these clippings 1082 00:50:11,208 --> 00:50:12,625 - Kennedy, fuckin' Kennedy! - he'd been carrying around, you know... 1083 00:50:12,708 --> 00:50:14,042 - He fucked us - He'd been obsessed with Castro 1084 00:50:14,125 --> 00:50:15,333 - in '61 and '62 - and Kennedy for months. 1085 00:50:15,417 --> 00:50:16,917 - and he's fuckin' us now! - He started in again. 1086 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,875 Fuckin' little asswipe closed down the camps, 1087 00:50:18,958 --> 00:50:20,458 took all our C-4, 1088 00:50:20,542 --> 00:50:24,625 took 10,000 fuckin' rounds, 3,000 pounds of gunpowder, 1089 00:50:24,708 --> 00:50:26,167 all our fuckin' weapons! 1090 00:50:26,250 --> 00:50:27,625 I tell ya... 1091 00:50:27,708 --> 00:50:29,208 Shit, you wanna free Cuba? 1092 00:50:29,292 --> 00:50:30,833 You got to whack out the fuckin' Beard. 1093 00:50:30,917 --> 00:50:32,167 Yeah, well, that faggot Kennedy won't let us. 1094 00:50:32,250 --> 00:50:33,792 Our hands are empty, how can we kill him? 1095 00:50:33,875 --> 00:50:36,833 It's a real problem getting at him, Castro has informers on every block. 1096 00:50:36,917 --> 00:50:38,958 Bullshit. They got all kinds of new stuff. 1097 00:50:39,042 --> 00:50:42,250 I can show you dozens of fuckin' poisons. Just stick it in his food. 1098 00:50:42,333 --> 00:50:43,625 He'd die in three days. 1099 00:50:43,708 --> 00:50:44,917 No trace! 1100 00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,917 We can put something in his beard, make his beard fall out. 1101 00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,917 He'll look fuckin' ridiculous without his beard. 1102 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,625 The real problem is... is that fucking Kennedy. 1103 00:50:51,708 --> 00:50:52,958 He's doing all kinds of deals... 1104 00:50:54,542 --> 00:50:56,500 ...Khrushchev. Licking his ass. 1105 00:50:58,292 --> 00:51:01,208 An inspired act of God should happen here, okay? 1106 00:51:01,292 --> 00:51:03,000 And put a Texan in the White House! 1107 00:51:05,167 --> 00:51:06,292 Then the Cubans left. 1108 00:51:06,708 --> 00:51:08,708 Dave was drunk now, really drunk. 1109 00:51:08,792 --> 00:51:11,083 - He started in on Kennedy again. 1110 00:51:11,167 --> 00:51:12,250 ‘Cause I will kill. 1111 00:51:12,333 --> 00:51:14,833 Right in the White House, I'll stab him right in his fuckin' heart! 1112 00:51:14,958 --> 00:51:17,042 - Somebody got to get rid of this fucker. 1113 00:51:17,125 --> 00:51:18,000 Come on, Dave. 1114 00:51:18,583 --> 00:51:20,375 You ain't never gonna get that son of a bitch. 1115 00:51:20,458 --> 00:51:22,667 No? It won't be long, mark my words. 1116 00:51:22,750 --> 00:51:24,792 - That fucker'll get what's coming to him. 1117 00:51:24,875 --> 00:51:26,167 It can be blamed on Castro. 1118 00:51:26,250 --> 00:51:27,667 The whole country'll want to invade Cuba. 1119 00:51:27,750 --> 00:51:29,417 All we got to do is get Kennedy in the open. 1120 00:51:29,500 --> 00:51:33,792 David, David, always some harebrained scheme or another. 1121 00:51:34,417 --> 00:51:35,167 Oh! 1122 00:51:36,458 --> 00:51:38,750 What have we here? Let's have some more champagne. 1123 00:51:38,833 --> 00:51:40,292 - Shall we? 1124 00:51:40,375 --> 00:51:42,417 What about the Secret Service, the cops? 1125 00:51:43,458 --> 00:51:44,792 If it's planned right, it's no problem. 1126 00:51:44,875 --> 00:51:46,417 - Look how close they got with de Gaulle. 1127 00:51:47,167 --> 00:51:49,208 Eisenhower was always riding around in an open top. 1128 00:51:49,292 --> 00:51:51,750 We need three mechanics in three different locations. 1129 00:51:52,583 --> 00:51:54,667 An office building with a high-powered rifle. 1130 00:51:55,792 --> 00:51:57,875 Triangulation of crossfire, that's the key. 1131 00:51:58,708 --> 00:51:59,792 - That's the key. 1132 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,875 The diversionary shot gets the Secret Service looking the other way. 1133 00:52:02,958 --> 00:52:04,333 Boom! You get the kill shot. 1134 00:52:05,708 --> 00:52:08,208 The crucial thing is one man has to be sacrificed. 1135 00:52:09,042 --> 00:52:11,167 Then, in the commotion of the crowd, the job gets done. 1136 00:52:11,458 --> 00:52:13,833 The others fly out of the country to someplace with no extradition. 1137 00:52:13,917 --> 00:52:15,667 Why don't we drop this subject... 1138 00:52:15,750 --> 00:52:18,333 it's one thing to engage in badinage with all these youngsters, 1139 00:52:18,417 --> 00:52:21,750 but this sort of thing could be so easily misunderstood. 1140 00:52:21,833 --> 00:52:23,417 Ouch! Ow! Ouch! 1141 00:52:23,500 --> 00:52:25,333 I didn't think much about it at the time. 1142 00:52:25,417 --> 00:52:26,708 It's just bullshit, you know. 1143 00:52:26,792 --> 00:52:29,667 Everybody likes to make themselves out to be something more than they are. 1144 00:52:29,750 --> 00:52:32,042 Especially in the homosexual underworld. 1145 00:52:33,333 --> 00:52:34,917 But when they got him, man... 1146 00:52:35,417 --> 00:52:36,750 I got scared... 1147 00:52:37,208 --> 00:52:38,208 Real scared. 1148 00:52:39,125 --> 00:52:40,250 And that's when I got popped. 1149 00:52:40,417 --> 00:52:41,958 You realize the things you're saying, Willie, 1150 00:52:42,042 --> 00:52:43,917 are gonna be attacked by a lot of different people. 1151 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,500 Oh, bring all those motherfuckers on, man! 1152 00:52:46,583 --> 00:52:49,000 Bring their college degrees in here, I got nothin' to hide. 1153 00:52:49,083 --> 00:52:50,042 You can't buy me. 1154 00:52:50,125 --> 00:52:51,542 - They can't buy me. - I don't wanna buy you. 1155 00:52:51,625 --> 00:52:52,875 - I don't even need this damn parole. - Nobody-- 1156 00:52:52,958 --> 00:52:55,125 - What are you talking about, parole? - See, this is about the truth coming out. 1157 00:52:55,208 --> 00:52:57,458 You a goddamn liberal, Mr. Garrison. You don't know shit... 1158 00:52:57,542 --> 00:52:59,792 ‘cause you never been fucked in the ass! 1159 00:52:59,875 --> 00:53:02,208 This ain't about justice. You think this is about justice? 1160 00:53:02,292 --> 00:53:03,958 No, this is about order. 1161 00:53:04,042 --> 00:53:05,208 Who rules. 1162 00:53:05,292 --> 00:53:07,042 ‘Cause, see, fascism is coming back. 1163 00:53:07,125 --> 00:53:10,125 Nobody wants to buy you, no one's promising you a parole, here. 1164 00:53:10,208 --> 00:53:12,083 I want to be perfectly clear about that. 1165 00:53:12,458 --> 00:53:14,042 What I need to know is why. 1166 00:53:14,417 --> 00:53:15,167 All right? 1167 00:53:15,250 --> 00:53:16,917 Why are you telling us this? 1168 00:53:17,333 --> 00:53:19,708 ‘Cause that motherfucker Kennedy... 1169 00:53:19,792 --> 00:53:22,750 stole that motherfucking election, that's why. 1170 00:53:22,833 --> 00:53:23,583 Nixon... 1171 00:53:23,667 --> 00:53:26,583 was gonna be one of the great presidents till Kennedy wrecked this country. 1172 00:53:26,667 --> 00:53:28,958 Got niggers all over the place asking for their damn rights. 1173 00:53:29,042 --> 00:53:31,167 Why you think we got all this crime now? 1174 00:53:31,250 --> 00:53:33,875 He promised those motherfuckers too goddamn much, you ask me. 1175 00:53:33,958 --> 00:53:35,667 Revolution's coming, bullshit, man. 1176 00:53:35,750 --> 00:53:37,167 Fascism is coming back. 1177 00:53:37,250 --> 00:53:38,542 I'm gonna tell you this. 1178 00:53:38,667 --> 00:53:41,792 The day that communist son of a bitch died was a great day-- 1179 00:53:41,875 --> 00:53:44,292 a great day for this country. 1180 00:53:44,417 --> 00:53:48,500 And I just hate to think that they blame it on some silly fuckin' Oswald. 1181 00:53:48,583 --> 00:53:52,083 Didn't know shit anyway, man. People got to know. 1182 00:53:52,167 --> 00:53:53,958 People got to know why he was killed. 1183 00:53:54,917 --> 00:53:56,625 Because he was... 1184 00:53:56,708 --> 00:53:57,750 a communist. 1185 00:53:58,292 --> 00:53:59,417 Go ahead, man. 1186 00:53:59,542 --> 00:54:01,083 You go ahead, you put me on the stand, 1187 00:54:01,167 --> 00:54:02,958 I'll tell the same goddamn story! 1188 00:54:03,042 --> 00:54:05,000 Don't matter fuck all to me! 1189 00:54:06,250 --> 00:54:07,208 All right, Willie. 1190 00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,083 Thank you. 1191 00:54:09,500 --> 00:54:10,583 We'll be in touch. 1192 00:54:11,292 --> 00:54:12,292 All right. 1193 00:54:17,667 --> 00:54:20,167 Hey, you know, you're not a bad-looking man, Mr. Garrison. 1194 00:54:20,833 --> 00:54:22,208 Not bad-looking at all. 1195 00:54:22,625 --> 00:54:24,083 I get outta here, I'm gonna come see you. 1196 00:54:24,167 --> 00:54:25,125 We could have some fun! 1197 00:54:26,333 --> 00:54:28,458 None of their testimony's gonna hold up in court, chief. 1198 00:54:28,542 --> 00:54:31,875 Hell, all three of 'em have reputations lower than crocodile piss. 1199 00:54:32,125 --> 00:54:33,625 Does that bother you, Bill? 1200 00:54:35,292 --> 00:54:38,083 I always wondered in court why it is because a woman's a prostitute, 1201 00:54:38,167 --> 00:54:39,833 she has to have bad eyesight. 1202 00:54:40,958 --> 00:54:42,333 Now go find this Clay Bertrand. 1203 00:54:42,417 --> 00:54:43,917 Start by checking around the Quarter. 1204 00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,875 And the six of us, with almost no budget and in secret, 1205 00:54:46,958 --> 00:54:49,625 are gonna solve a case that the Warren Commission couldn't solve? 1206 00:54:49,708 --> 00:54:52,083 I didn't pick you because of your legal skill, you know. 1207 00:54:52,167 --> 00:54:53,750 Gee, thanks, boss. 1208 00:54:53,833 --> 00:54:54,958 But because you're a fighter. 1209 00:54:55,458 --> 00:54:57,792 I like a man who's not afraid of bad odds. 1210 00:54:57,958 --> 00:54:59,708 Mr. Garrison, how are you? 1211 00:55:00,042 --> 00:55:01,000 Remember me? 1212 00:55:01,083 --> 00:55:02,458 I surely do. Did you vote for me? 1213 00:55:02,542 --> 00:55:03,667 I certainly did, sir. 1214 00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:06,042 We sang together at the Royal Orleans, remember? 1215 00:55:06,125 --> 00:55:07,458 Yeah, we sang... 1216 00:55:07,542 --> 00:55:10,667 "You're the Cream in My Coffee." 1217 00:55:12,750 --> 00:55:14,917 Mr. Garrison, we haven't seen enough of you lately. 1218 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,250 Been too busy, Paul. 1219 00:55:16,667 --> 00:55:19,167 Elected men, they can't have as much fun as they used to. 1220 00:55:19,250 --> 00:55:20,583 It's always nice to see you. 1221 00:55:20,792 --> 00:55:22,417 Pleasure to serve you, always. 1222 00:55:23,625 --> 00:55:25,000 - Hey, Jim. - How are you? 1223 00:55:25,083 --> 00:55:26,333 - Good seeing you again. - Nice to see you. 1224 00:55:26,417 --> 00:55:27,667 - Hey, Jim. - Al. 1225 00:55:27,750 --> 00:55:29,292 - Jim. - Welcome back, Lou. 1226 00:55:29,917 --> 00:55:31,000 - Paul. - Yes? 1227 00:55:31,083 --> 00:55:32,875 You think I could get a martini? 1228 00:55:32,958 --> 00:55:34,208 Been waiting for you, sir. 1229 00:55:34,917 --> 00:55:35,833 Perfect. 1230 00:55:35,917 --> 00:55:37,917 - Keep that table open for us, will ya? - Yes, sir. 1231 00:55:40,833 --> 00:55:42,708 Find out anything on those hoboes? 1232 00:55:42,792 --> 00:55:43,833 - Photographer from... 1233 00:55:43,917 --> 00:55:46,250 The Dallas Times Herald got some great shots of ‘em. 1234 00:55:47,167 --> 00:55:48,417 Never published. 1235 00:55:50,875 --> 00:55:53,250 Can't say that comes as a surprise anymore. 1236 00:55:54,333 --> 00:55:57,375 They took ‘em to the sheriff's office and they let ‘em go. 1237 00:55:57,458 --> 00:55:59,583 No record of 'em ever being questioned. 1238 00:55:59,792 --> 00:56:01,208 Take a good look, chief. 1239 00:56:01,292 --> 00:56:03,208 Any of 'em look like the hoboes you remember? 1240 00:56:03,958 --> 00:56:05,667 These two look pretty young. 1241 00:56:05,958 --> 00:56:08,417 Not a single frayed collar or cuff, 1242 00:56:08,500 --> 00:56:11,042 new haircuts, fresh shaves, clean hands, 1243 00:56:11,125 --> 00:56:12,417 new shoe leather. 1244 00:56:12,500 --> 00:56:14,292 Well who the hell are they, then? 1245 00:56:15,542 --> 00:56:16,958 - Hi, Susie. - Hello. 1246 00:56:17,042 --> 00:56:18,750 - I'm sorry I'm late. - Come on, sit down. 1247 00:56:21,167 --> 00:56:24,208 This could be it. This could be it. Let's start looking for ‘em. 1248 00:56:24,292 --> 00:56:25,875 - What about that railroad man, 1249 00:56:25,958 --> 00:56:27,042 - Lee Bowers? 1250 00:56:27,333 --> 00:56:29,167 Saw those men at the picket fence. 1251 00:56:30,042 --> 00:56:32,917 Graveyard. Dead. August this year. 1252 00:56:33,083 --> 00:56:34,500 - Single car accident... 1253 00:56:34,583 --> 00:56:36,875 on an empty road in Midlothian, Texas. 1254 00:56:36,958 --> 00:56:40,250 The doctor said he was in some kind of strange shock when he died. 1255 00:56:40,708 --> 00:56:42,458 We need to find more witnesses, Lou. 1256 00:56:42,958 --> 00:56:45,375 Well, there was Rose Cheramie, a whore. 1257 00:56:45,458 --> 00:56:48,375 She said she was a dope runner for Jack Ruby. 1258 00:56:48,958 --> 00:56:49,875 And... 1259 00:56:49,958 --> 00:56:53,083 she said that Ruby knew Oswald for years. 1260 00:56:53,250 --> 00:56:54,542 Can we talk to her? 1261 00:56:55,250 --> 00:56:56,167 She's dead, too. 1262 00:56:56,458 --> 00:56:57,292 - Hit and run. - Oh, mama. 1263 00:57:02,875 --> 00:57:05,375 Why don't we go right to the horse's mouth, chief? 1264 00:57:05,792 --> 00:57:09,125 Jack Ruby's been rotting away in a Dallas jail cell for three years. 1265 00:57:09,208 --> 00:57:10,625 Maybe he's ready to crack. 1266 00:57:10,708 --> 00:57:11,458 Can't do it, Bill. 1267 00:57:11,542 --> 00:57:15,042 If we go to him, our investigation'll hit the front pages by sunrise, all right? 1268 00:57:15,125 --> 00:57:16,833 It'll blow up right in our face. 1269 00:57:17,167 --> 00:57:19,083 Susie, what did you find out on Oswald? 1270 00:57:19,167 --> 00:57:21,708 Uh, negative on his tax records. 1271 00:57:21,792 --> 00:57:22,750 Classified. 1272 00:57:22,833 --> 00:57:25,583 First time I know a DA can't get a tax record. 1273 00:57:26,167 --> 00:57:29,417 So I put together a list of all the CIA files on Oswald 1274 00:57:29,500 --> 00:57:32,042 that were part of the Warren Report and asked for them. 1275 00:57:32,125 --> 00:57:34,458 - There are about 1,200 documents. - Ooh. 1276 00:57:34,833 --> 00:57:36,625 And can't get one of them. 1277 00:57:36,708 --> 00:57:40,292 All classified as secret on the grounds of national security. 1278 00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:42,417 They gave me his grammar school records! 1279 00:57:42,500 --> 00:57:45,333 - It's a study of his pubic hairs! 1280 00:57:45,417 --> 00:57:47,458 Lonely kid, no father. 1281 00:57:47,542 --> 00:57:49,542 Joins the Marines at 17. 1282 00:57:50,083 --> 00:57:51,583 He learns Russian, 1283 00:57:51,667 --> 00:57:53,583 he acts overtly Marxist, 1284 00:57:53,667 --> 00:57:57,167 but he's stationed at a top-secret air base in Japan, 1285 00:57:57,250 --> 00:58:00,083 where U2 spy flights over Russia originate. 1286 00:58:00,708 --> 00:58:04,708 He's discharged from the Marines, supposedly because his mother's sick. 1287 00:58:04,792 --> 00:58:06,042 Stays home three days, 1288 00:58:06,125 --> 00:58:08,333 then with a 1,500-dollar ticket 1289 00:58:08,417 --> 00:58:11,333 from a 203-dollar bank account, he goes to Moscow. 1290 00:58:11,417 --> 00:58:12,625 Mr. Oswald, do you understand 1291 00:58:12,708 --> 00:58:14,667 the severity of the action that you're about to take? 1292 00:58:14,750 --> 00:58:17,958 Yes, I do, sir, and I am also very familiar... 1293 00:58:19,958 --> 00:58:22,667 I wish to renounce my citizenship, 1294 00:58:22,750 --> 00:58:25,583 and become a Soviet citizen. 1295 00:58:26,125 --> 00:58:28,000 I'm going to make known to them 1296 00:58:28,083 --> 00:58:30,292 all information I have concerning the Marine Corps. 1297 00:58:30,375 --> 00:58:33,958 And he disappears for six weeks, presumably with the KGB. 1298 00:58:34,250 --> 00:58:36,875 Finally they shuttle him to a radio factory in Minsk, 1299 00:58:36,958 --> 00:58:40,292 where he lives as high on the hog as he ever has. 1300 00:58:40,500 --> 00:58:42,667 He's given 5,000 rubles, 1301 00:58:42,750 --> 00:58:45,083 a roomy apartment with a balcony, 1302 00:58:45,583 --> 00:58:47,667 has affairs with local girls. 1303 00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:49,958 - Makes sense, he's a spokesman. 1304 00:58:50,042 --> 00:58:52,917 But-- but he never writes, speaks, 1305 00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,167 or does any propaganda for the Russians. 1306 00:58:55,708 --> 00:58:57,583 He meets Marina... 1307 00:58:57,667 --> 00:59:00,167 whose uncle is a colonel in Soviet intelligence, 1308 00:59:00,250 --> 00:59:02,250 at a trade union dance. 1309 00:59:02,583 --> 00:59:04,875 She thinks he's Russian by the way he speaks. 1310 00:59:04,958 --> 00:59:06,625 Six weeks later they marry... 1311 00:59:06,958 --> 00:59:07,750 have a daughter. 1312 00:59:08,292 --> 00:59:10,292 The only explanation for the royal treatment 1313 00:59:10,375 --> 00:59:12,417 can be that he did give them radar secrets, 1314 00:59:12,500 --> 00:59:13,833 or fake secrets. 1315 00:59:13,917 --> 00:59:16,167 Six months after he arrives in Russia, 1316 00:59:16,250 --> 00:59:19,000 Francis Gary Powers' U2 spy flight 1317 00:59:19,083 --> 00:59:20,750 goes down in Russia. 1318 00:59:20,833 --> 00:59:22,500 That plane was untouchable. 1319 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,833 Powers hinted that Oswald could have given the Russians 1320 00:59:25,917 --> 00:59:27,500 enough data to hit it. 1321 00:59:27,583 --> 00:59:29,458 And as a direct result... 1322 00:59:29,542 --> 00:59:32,333 the peace summit between Khrushchev and Eisenhower failed. 1323 00:59:32,417 --> 00:59:33,708 I can't help thinking... 1324 00:59:33,958 --> 00:59:37,667 maybe someone in our military didn't want the peace conference to happen. 1325 00:59:37,750 --> 00:59:39,917 - Susie, come on. - Maybe Oswald was a part of that! 1326 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,583 - Susie, you are an assistant DA, remember? - It gets weirder. 1327 00:59:42,667 --> 00:59:44,583 Just stick to what you can prove in court. 1328 00:59:44,667 --> 00:59:45,792 - Facts? You want facts? - Please. 1329 00:59:45,875 --> 00:59:47,458 - Susie, don't get sidetracked. - From 1945 to '59-- 1330 00:59:47,542 --> 00:59:50,208 How does he get back to the States? That's the point, all right? 1331 00:59:50,292 --> 00:59:52,667 - Does he have any problems with Uncle Sam? - No! None. 1332 00:59:52,750 --> 00:59:56,167 The State Department issues him a new passport within 48 hours, 1333 00:59:56,250 --> 00:59:58,125 and loans him the money to travel. 1334 00:59:58,833 --> 01:00:01,583 He's never investigated or charged by the Navy 1335 01:00:01,667 --> 01:00:04,208 - for revealing classified information. 1336 01:00:04,292 --> 01:00:05,458 Or, as far as we know, 1337 01:00:05,542 --> 01:00:07,208 debriefed by the CIA! 1338 01:00:07,292 --> 01:00:09,333 Son of a bitch should've been prosecuted as a traitor 1339 01:00:09,417 --> 01:00:10,958 the minute he stepped off the boat. 1340 01:00:12,125 --> 01:00:14,250 What about Marina, she have any problems getting out? 1341 01:00:14,333 --> 01:00:15,167 No! None either. 1342 01:00:15,250 --> 01:00:16,250 No, it's bizarre. 1343 01:00:16,333 --> 01:00:19,417 It's next to impossible to get Russian sweethearts out. 1344 01:00:19,500 --> 01:00:22,083 This is a man who has defected once already. 1345 01:00:22,167 --> 01:00:22,917 It's crazy. 1346 01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,167 Ordinary people... 1347 01:00:24,250 --> 01:00:27,667 they get blacklisted for having leftist affiliations. 1348 01:00:27,750 --> 01:00:29,167 - It doesn't add up, does it? 1349 01:00:29,250 --> 01:00:33,042 Next thing we know, he's living in Dallas-Fort Worth October '62... 1350 01:00:33,125 --> 01:00:34,167 working six months 1351 01:00:34,250 --> 01:00:36,083 - at Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall. 1352 01:00:36,167 --> 01:00:40,083 This is a photographic firm that contracts to make maps for the US Army. 1353 01:00:40,750 --> 01:00:44,292 Oswald becomes chummy with the White Russian community of Dallas, 1354 01:00:44,375 --> 01:00:46,542 - all rabid anti-communists. 1355 01:00:46,625 --> 01:00:47,458 It's odd. 1356 01:00:47,542 --> 01:00:50,250 - His closest friend is an oilman... 1357 01:00:50,667 --> 01:00:52,958 named George de Mohrenschildt, 1358 01:00:53,083 --> 01:00:55,375 who's about 35 years older than Oswald, 1359 01:00:55,458 --> 01:00:58,917 who is only 23 and supposedly broke. 1360 01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:03,250 De Mohrenschildt is a member of the Dallas Petroleum Club, 1361 01:01:03,333 --> 01:01:04,667 speaks five languages, 1362 01:01:04,750 --> 01:01:07,375 and was in French Vichy Intelligence during the war. 1363 01:01:07,458 --> 01:01:08,750 - Also rumored to have been 1364 01:01:08,833 --> 01:01:10,375 a Nazi sympathizer. 1365 01:01:10,458 --> 01:01:12,875 I think you really talk like a redneck... 1366 01:01:12,958 --> 01:01:17,667 De Mohrenschildt draws a picture of Oswald as an intellectual, well-read, 1367 01:01:17,750 --> 01:01:18,917 speaks excellent Russian, 1368 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,167 a man who adored JFK. 1369 01:01:23,917 --> 01:01:24,875 Oh. 1370 01:01:24,958 --> 01:01:27,958 I think he's made some mistakes regarding Cuba. 1371 01:01:28,042 --> 01:01:31,125 I think he's doing a pretty good job. 1372 01:01:31,208 --> 01:01:34,708 If he succeeds, in my opinion, I think he'll make a great president. 1373 01:01:34,792 --> 01:01:36,333 - A really handsome one, too. - Yes. 1374 01:01:36,417 --> 01:01:39,375 That's scenery, Susie, now don't get sidetracked. 1375 01:01:39,458 --> 01:01:43,083 This is the same man that, bottom line, nailed Oswald to the Warren Commission 1376 01:01:43,167 --> 01:01:46,458 as a potentially violent man, and linked him to the rifle. 1377 01:01:46,542 --> 01:01:49,958 Well, in that sense, Castro is an experimenter. 1378 01:01:56,042 --> 01:01:57,667 What you got there? 1379 01:01:59,083 --> 01:02:00,750 You have a rifle in there? 1380 01:02:01,833 --> 01:02:02,833 Lee... 1381 01:02:02,917 --> 01:02:03,792 Tell me. 1382 01:02:04,542 --> 01:02:06,333 What are you shooting at? 1383 01:02:06,417 --> 01:02:07,750 Rabbits or fascists? 1384 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:09,042 I uh.... 1385 01:02:09,125 --> 01:02:10,625 - I hunt. - You hunt? 1386 01:02:10,708 --> 01:02:11,458 Mm-hmm. 1387 01:02:11,542 --> 01:02:12,417 Hillbillies. 1388 01:02:12,500 --> 01:02:15,042 We don't know he's CIA, let's circle him very probable. 1389 01:02:15,125 --> 01:02:16,792 - All right. - Call him Oswald's handler. 1390 01:02:17,042 --> 01:02:19,750 The Oswalds are introduced by George de Mohrenschildt 1391 01:02:19,833 --> 01:02:21,833 - to Janet and Bill Williams. 1392 01:02:21,917 --> 01:02:23,708 I'm an engineer for Bell Helicopter. 1393 01:02:23,792 --> 01:02:25,000 It's through Janet Williams 1394 01:02:25,083 --> 01:02:27,708 - in October '63 1395 01:02:27,792 --> 01:02:29,625 that Lee gets the job at the warehouse 1396 01:02:29,708 --> 01:02:32,458 right smack on Elm Street at the book depository. 1397 01:02:32,875 --> 01:02:35,500 Presumably so he can now exercise his intellect 1398 01:02:35,583 --> 01:02:38,125 stacking school texts at a dollar 25 an hour. 1399 01:02:39,375 --> 01:02:42,625 Marina fights often with Lee about many things. 1400 01:02:45,208 --> 01:02:47,458 His secrecy, their lack of money... 1401 01:02:48,833 --> 01:02:51,125 She says that Lee is not sexually adequate. 1402 01:02:51,417 --> 01:02:53,708 - Lee, you'll hurt her! You'll hurt her! 1403 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,250 - Lee hits her on several occasions. 1404 01:02:57,333 --> 01:03:00,167 Now, at the age of 24, he rents a small room in Dallas 1405 01:03:00,250 --> 01:03:02,500 under the alias of O. H. Lee. 1406 01:03:02,583 --> 01:03:04,125 Do you want to look at television? 1407 01:03:04,583 --> 01:03:06,125 - Are you all right, Mr. Lee? 1408 01:03:06,458 --> 01:03:08,000 No, thank you. I'm fine. 1409 01:03:09,333 --> 01:03:13,000 All I can find out about the Williams is that their tax returns are classified, 1410 01:03:13,083 --> 01:03:15,917 and that Bill Williams has links through his family 1411 01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,167 - to the CIA, 1412 01:03:17,250 --> 01:03:19,333 and does classified work for Bell Helicopter. 1413 01:03:20,250 --> 01:03:22,208 - Bill's convenient separation from Janet 1414 01:03:22,292 --> 01:03:24,500 allows Marina to move into her house, 1415 01:03:24,667 --> 01:03:27,250 where she suddenly becomes Marina's best friend. 1416 01:03:27,333 --> 01:03:28,542 - And, there, 1417 01:03:28,625 --> 01:03:30,583 - Marina and Lee have a second daughter. - I have to go away... 1418 01:03:31,042 --> 01:03:33,208 - I have to go away... 1419 01:03:33,292 --> 01:03:34,750 - Just for a short while. 1420 01:03:34,833 --> 01:03:37,208 - What is the matter with this family? 1421 01:03:37,292 --> 01:03:38,958 - / love Lee... 1422 01:03:39,375 --> 01:03:41,917 And I... sorry him. 1423 01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:43,083 You're sorry for him? 1424 01:03:44,417 --> 01:03:45,167 Yes. 1425 01:03:45,250 --> 01:03:46,000 When he's arrested, 1426 01:03:46,083 --> 01:03:48,250 Marina buries him with the public. 1427 01:03:48,333 --> 01:03:51,917 Her description of him is that of a psychotic and violent man. 1428 01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,625 I have too much facts... 1429 01:03:53,708 --> 01:03:55,708 and facts tell me... 1430 01:03:55,792 --> 01:03:58,000 that Lee shot Kennedy. 1431 01:03:58,083 --> 01:04:00,208 After, they kept her locked away for two months, 1432 01:04:00,292 --> 01:04:01,750 surrounded by federal people, 1433 01:04:01,833 --> 01:04:03,583 in fearing she'd be deported back to Russia. 1434 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,125 All right, the poor woman was probably suffering from nervous exhaustion. 1435 01:04:07,458 --> 01:04:09,125 - They taught her how to answer. 1436 01:04:09,625 --> 01:04:12,625 And when they think she's ready, they buy her new dresses, 1437 01:04:12,750 --> 01:04:15,167 polish her appearance, and wheel her out on cue. 1438 01:04:15,250 --> 01:04:17,875 I would like to thank the Warren Commission... 1439 01:04:17,958 --> 01:04:19,833 Now, Oswald was no angel, that's clear. 1440 01:04:20,208 --> 01:04:21,167 But who was he? 1441 01:04:22,042 --> 01:04:23,333 I'm lost, boss. 1442 01:04:23,792 --> 01:04:25,333 - What are we saying here? 1443 01:04:25,417 --> 01:04:27,750 We're saying that when Oswald went to Russia, 1444 01:04:27,833 --> 01:04:29,542 he was not a real defector, 1445 01:04:29,958 --> 01:04:32,042 that he was an intelligence agent on some kind of mission 1446 01:04:32,125 --> 01:04:34,542 for our government and remained one till the day he died. 1447 01:04:34,625 --> 01:04:35,500 That's what we're saying. 1448 01:04:35,792 --> 01:04:38,292 Therefore, because Oswald pulled the trigger, 1449 01:04:38,833 --> 01:04:41,500 the intelligence community murdered their own commander in chief? 1450 01:04:41,833 --> 01:04:43,083 Is that what you're saying? 1451 01:04:43,167 --> 01:04:44,625 I'll go you one better, Bill. 1452 01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,708 Maybe Oswald didn't even pull the trigger. 1453 01:04:47,458 --> 01:04:51,125 Nitrate tests indicate he hadn't even fired a rifle on November 22nd. 1454 01:04:51,333 --> 01:04:53,125 And on top of that, they didn't even bother to see 1455 01:04:53,208 --> 01:04:54,875 if the rifle had been fired that day. 1456 01:04:55,583 --> 01:04:57,250 He had his palm print on the weapon. 1457 01:04:57,333 --> 01:04:59,042 Well, it went to the FBI, Bill. 1458 01:04:59,500 --> 01:05:01,667 FBI didn't find a goddamn thing. 1459 01:05:02,042 --> 01:05:05,125 It comes back a week later and one guy in the Dallas police department 1460 01:05:05,208 --> 01:05:06,625 - suddenly finds a palm print. 1461 01:05:07,375 --> 01:05:09,917 For all we know, it could've been taken off Oswald in the morgue. 1462 01:05:10,125 --> 01:05:11,333 There's no chain of evidence. 1463 01:05:11,417 --> 01:05:15,583 I never could figure out why this guy orders a traceable weapon... 1464 01:05:16,208 --> 01:05:17,583 to this post office box, 1465 01:05:17,667 --> 01:05:19,625 when he can go into any store in Texas, 1466 01:05:20,167 --> 01:05:23,583 give a phony name, and walk out with a rifle which can never be traced. 1467 01:05:23,667 --> 01:05:25,042 To frame him, obviously. 1468 01:05:25,125 --> 01:05:27,500 There's a lot of smoke there, but there's some fire. 1469 01:05:27,583 --> 01:05:29,458 We're talking about our government, here. 1470 01:05:29,542 --> 01:05:32,208 No, we're talking about a crime, Bill. Pure and simple. 1471 01:05:32,583 --> 01:05:36,125 Y'all got to start thinking on a different level, like the CIA does. 1472 01:05:36,500 --> 01:05:38,583 Now we're through the looking glass, here, people. 1473 01:05:39,583 --> 01:05:40,625 White is black. 1474 01:05:41,833 --> 01:05:42,958 And black is white. 1475 01:05:44,333 --> 01:05:47,000 Just maybe, Oswald is exactly what he said he was. 1476 01:05:47,792 --> 01:05:48,583 A patsy. 1477 01:05:54,958 --> 01:05:57,000 It's unbelievable. You were here? 1478 01:05:57,083 --> 01:05:58,167 Yes, sir. 1479 01:05:58,292 --> 01:05:59,708 This is where I was sitting. 1480 01:06:00,083 --> 01:06:03,667 Shots came from near that wooden fence over there, 1481 01:06:04,625 --> 01:06:06,542 - near the overpass. 1482 01:06:06,750 --> 01:06:11,083 And I saw a man run from the fence toward those railroad cars. 1483 01:06:11,167 --> 01:06:13,500 I made it very clear to the Warren people 1484 01:06:13,583 --> 01:06:16,750 that one of the shots came from behind that picket fence. 1485 01:06:16,958 --> 01:06:19,500 I heard the report, saw the smoke come out 1486 01:06:19,583 --> 01:06:21,375 - six or eight feet above the ground, 1487 01:06:21,458 --> 01:06:23,458 - right out from under those trees. 1488 01:06:23,542 --> 01:06:25,625 - We, uh, all four of us... 1489 01:06:25,708 --> 01:06:27,125 - all railroad men... 1490 01:06:27,208 --> 01:06:28,792 - seen about the same thing. 1491 01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,625 The smoke came from behind the hedge. 1492 01:06:31,708 --> 01:06:33,708 I was standing next to my friend, Mary Moorman, 1493 01:06:33,792 --> 01:06:35,750 who took the photograph when he was killed. 1494 01:06:35,917 --> 01:06:38,250 - Um... 1495 01:06:38,333 --> 01:06:41,958 I stepped down to the curb and yelled, "Hey, Mr. President!" 1496 01:06:42,042 --> 01:06:43,750 Look over here! 1497 01:06:45,542 --> 01:06:47,083 And then shots rang out. 1498 01:06:49,250 --> 01:06:51,083 Mary fell to the ground right away. 1499 01:06:51,167 --> 01:06:54,292 She was yelling, "They're shooting, they're shooting, get down!" 1500 01:06:55,500 --> 01:06:56,625 I just stood there watching. 1501 01:06:58,208 --> 01:06:59,500 The driver had stopped. 1502 01:07:00,958 --> 01:07:02,625 I don't know what was wrong with that driver. 1503 01:07:03,542 --> 01:07:04,500 Then... 1504 01:07:05,417 --> 01:07:06,917 out of the corner of my eye... 1505 01:07:08,125 --> 01:07:10,083 I saw a flash of light in the bushes... 1506 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,083 and that last shot.... 1507 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,333 just ripped his head off. 1508 01:07:16,750 --> 01:07:20,750 I looked up and I saw smoke coming from over there, on the knoll. 1509 01:07:20,833 --> 01:07:23,417 We came around here to look for tracks. 1510 01:07:23,792 --> 01:07:27,000 It rained that morning, and we found a bunch. 1511 01:07:27,625 --> 01:07:28,625 Cigarette butts... 1512 01:07:28,875 --> 01:07:31,458 and someone had stood about here. 1513 01:07:37,458 --> 01:07:39,083 That's a good spot, chief. 1514 01:07:40,333 --> 01:07:41,208 For the head shot. 1515 01:07:43,250 --> 01:07:45,167 Everything was just frozen. 1516 01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,208 Seemed like people weren't even breathing. 1517 01:07:48,833 --> 01:07:50,542 Like you were looking at a picture. 1518 01:07:53,250 --> 01:07:54,708 Except for this one man. 1519 01:07:55,917 --> 01:07:57,583 I saw this one man 1520 01:07:57,667 --> 01:08:01,875 running from the corner of the book depository over towards the parking lot. 1521 01:08:01,958 --> 01:08:03,250 It was about 11:00 in the morning. 1522 01:08:04,167 --> 01:08:06,833 And I was driving west on Elm Street toward the Triple Underpass 1523 01:08:06,917 --> 01:08:07,958 in a rented car. 1524 01:08:08,333 --> 01:08:09,833 A light blue Valiant. 1525 01:08:10,583 --> 01:08:12,292 I will never forget that day. 1526 01:08:12,625 --> 01:08:16,292 There was quite a bit of traffic and I stopped alongside this green pickup truck. 1527 01:08:16,625 --> 01:08:18,625 And I remember it being very noticeable 1528 01:08:18,708 --> 01:08:21,583 because it had one of its wheels parked up on the side of the curb. 1529 01:08:21,667 --> 01:08:23,542 And then when I saw the gun, I thought... 1530 01:08:24,458 --> 01:08:25,333 Well... 1531 01:08:25,875 --> 01:08:27,750 the Secret Service is not very secret. 1532 01:08:28,250 --> 01:08:31,292 Then the next morning, on Saturday, I went down to the FBI office 1533 01:08:31,375 --> 01:08:33,625 and the agents showed me some photographs 1534 01:08:33,708 --> 01:08:35,625 and I picked out three pictures that looked 1535 01:08:35,708 --> 01:08:37,542 generally like the driver of the truck. 1536 01:08:38,333 --> 01:08:39,417 That's the man. 1537 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,625 You mean you identified Jack Ruby on Saturday? 1538 01:08:42,750 --> 01:08:43,542 That's right. 1539 01:08:43,625 --> 01:08:45,292 The day before he shot Oswald? 1540 01:08:45,583 --> 01:08:48,000 That's right. When I saw him on TV... 1541 01:08:48,667 --> 01:08:49,417 I was shocked. 1542 01:08:49,500 --> 01:08:51,083 I turned to my family and I said, 1543 01:08:51,167 --> 01:08:52,875 "That's the man I saw in the truck." 1544 01:08:54,125 --> 01:08:57,292 But you didn't seem nearly so sure in your statement to the Warren Commission. 1545 01:08:57,375 --> 01:08:58,375 What about these others? 1546 01:08:58,458 --> 01:09:00,083 You said one of them might be him. 1547 01:09:01,583 --> 01:09:04,500 They look a little bit like him, but I'm sure this is the man. 1548 01:09:05,042 --> 01:09:07,542 Well, it was him I was chasing up the grassy knoll. 1549 01:09:09,375 --> 01:09:11,625 I thought maybe our guys had shot back. 1550 01:09:11,750 --> 01:09:13,667 - And maybe we got one of them. 1551 01:09:13,750 --> 01:09:15,667 When I got up to the parking lot, 1552 01:09:16,083 --> 01:09:19,458 all I saw were railroad workers and Dallas' finest. 1553 01:09:21,042 --> 01:09:22,833 Secret Service, ma'am. You're coming with us. 1554 01:09:22,917 --> 01:09:25,167 I am not! I don't know you. We got to find this shooter! 1555 01:09:25,250 --> 01:09:27,542 I said, you're coming with us, and I want those pictures in your pocket. 1556 01:09:27,625 --> 01:09:29,167 - I don't have any, son of a bitch! 1557 01:09:29,250 --> 01:09:31,417 - He put a hurt on me but good. - Just smile and keep walking. 1558 01:09:31,500 --> 01:09:34,292 But they musta been watching the whole thing ‘cause they knew everything 1559 01:09:34,375 --> 01:09:36,125 Mary and I had done all day. 1560 01:09:36,625 --> 01:09:39,708 ‘Couse I guess I wasn't too hard to find, wearing that red raincoat. 1561 01:09:39,792 --> 01:09:41,583 How many shots did you say you heard? 1562 01:09:41,958 --> 01:09:43,375 Four to six. 1563 01:09:43,708 --> 01:09:44,958 That's impossible! 1564 01:09:45,917 --> 01:09:47,292 You heard echoes. 1565 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:48,958 Echoes! 1566 01:09:49,875 --> 01:09:53,458 We have three bullets and three shots that came from the book depository. 1567 01:09:53,542 --> 01:09:55,083 That's all we're willing to say. 1568 01:09:55,167 --> 01:09:56,042 No, sir. 1569 01:09:56,500 --> 01:09:59,750 I saw a man shooting from over there behind that fence. 1570 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,583 Now what are you going to do about that? 1571 01:10:01,667 --> 01:10:03,208 You got to go out there and get him! 1572 01:10:03,292 --> 01:10:04,667 We have that taken care of. 1573 01:10:04,958 --> 01:10:08,625 You only heard three shots, and you're not to talk about this with anybody. 1574 01:10:09,333 --> 01:10:10,833 No one. Do you understand me? 1575 01:10:11,125 --> 01:10:12,000 Which is strange, 1576 01:10:12,083 --> 01:10:14,792 ‘cause it's less than 20 minutes after the assassination. 1577 01:10:14,875 --> 01:10:15,792 Get her out of here. 1578 01:10:15,917 --> 01:10:18,667 I knew something was crooked as a dog's hind leg. 1579 01:10:18,917 --> 01:10:19,750 Sure enough... 1580 01:10:19,958 --> 01:10:23,542 When I read my testimony as published by the Warren Commission, 1581 01:10:23,625 --> 01:10:25,917 it was a fabrication from start to finish. 1582 01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,125 Well, that's what bothers me, Mr. Garrison, is they've been altered. 1583 01:10:29,333 --> 01:10:30,500 My statements. 1584 01:10:31,375 --> 01:10:33,125 See, this one here says... 1585 01:10:33,208 --> 01:10:35,750 "Mercer could not identify any of the photographs 1586 01:10:35,833 --> 01:10:37,792 "as being identical with the person that she had observed 1587 01:10:37,875 --> 01:10:40,083 slouched over the wheel of the green Ford pickup truck.” 1588 01:10:40,167 --> 01:10:41,125 Well, that is not true. 1589 01:10:41,208 --> 01:10:44,333 I never said any such thing, I recognized him and I told them so. 1590 01:10:44,750 --> 01:10:46,208 Let's take your time, be sure. 1591 01:10:46,292 --> 01:10:47,208 I'm sure. 1592 01:10:47,292 --> 01:10:49,292 And then here on the Dallas sheriff's report, 1593 01:10:49,375 --> 01:10:51,333 this is really strange. 1594 01:10:51,417 --> 01:10:54,083 You see that notarized signature right there at the bottom of each page? 1595 01:10:55,042 --> 01:10:56,083 That is not my signature. 1596 01:10:56,333 --> 01:10:59,667 And there never was any notary present during any of my questioning. 1597 01:11:01,542 --> 01:11:04,083 Mrs. Mercer, as a former FBI man, it's... 1598 01:11:05,833 --> 01:11:07,625 It's difficult to accept this. 1599 01:11:08,875 --> 01:11:11,542 Beverly, tell Mr. Garrison about the Carousel Club. 1600 01:11:13,958 --> 01:11:14,833 Okay. 1601 01:11:17,917 --> 01:11:19,917 Well, I used to go over there a lot to see Jack, 1602 01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,083 and especially my friend Jada, who danced there. 1603 01:11:22,625 --> 01:11:26,333 It was the real swinging spot in town. Everybody came. 1604 01:11:26,875 --> 01:11:30,208 Businessmen, politicians from Austin, LBJ's friends. 1605 01:11:30,750 --> 01:11:32,708 Dallas was a slowpokin' town back then! 1606 01:11:32,792 --> 01:11:34,208 I mean you chewed toothpicks, 1607 01:11:34,292 --> 01:11:36,917 - played dominoes, spit, dated policemen, 1608 01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:38,792 - but Jack, that was exciting. 1609 01:11:38,875 --> 01:11:40,417 - There were always cops there. 1610 01:11:40,500 --> 01:11:42,000 - Jack liked them around... 1611 01:11:42,083 --> 01:11:44,250 even though he used to throw out the drunks himself. 1612 01:11:44,333 --> 01:11:46,875 He was kind of a violent-tempered man, actually. 1613 01:11:46,958 --> 01:11:47,958 Hey, how are ya! 1614 01:11:48,042 --> 01:11:50,708 You know, everybody in those days knew Jack was in the mob. 1615 01:11:50,792 --> 01:11:52,042 Hey, sweetheart! 1616 01:11:52,125 --> 01:11:53,542 Cops back then... 1617 01:11:53,625 --> 01:11:55,000 - they were bad. - Hey, Tippit. 1618 01:11:55,083 --> 01:11:57,458 They'd shake you down for the money in your pocket. 1619 01:11:57,667 --> 01:11:59,042 You know, there was this one case... 1620 01:11:59,125 --> 01:12:01,208 - Yeah, um, Beverly, what about Lee? 1621 01:12:01,292 --> 01:12:03,000 - Beverly, come over here! - Well... 1622 01:12:03,083 --> 01:12:06,125 One time I came in, and Jack introduced me to these two guys. 1623 01:12:06,208 --> 01:12:07,125 - Hi! - Hi, baby. 1624 01:12:07,208 --> 01:12:08,875 He says, "Beverly, I'd like you to meet my friend, Lee." 1625 01:12:08,958 --> 01:12:10,500 I want you to meet my friend, Lee Oswald. 1626 01:12:10,583 --> 01:12:13,292 I don't remember the other guy's name, 1627 01:12:13,667 --> 01:12:16,083 but he was a weird-looking guy. 1628 01:12:16,458 --> 01:12:18,292 He had these eyebrows. 1629 01:12:18,375 --> 01:12:20,167 He kinda looked like a buzzard! 1630 01:12:21,500 --> 01:12:22,458 Well... 1631 01:12:22,542 --> 01:12:26,000 Lee didn't make much of an impression. He was...um... 1632 01:12:26,083 --> 01:12:28,208 - Well, he really wasn't very good-looking, 1633 01:12:28,292 --> 01:12:30,583 and he didn't look like he had any money. 1634 01:12:30,667 --> 01:12:34,333 And he was in a bad mood, so I didn't pay him much mind. 1635 01:12:36,083 --> 01:12:39,417 You know, I may not remember a name, but I always remember a face. 1636 01:12:41,208 --> 01:12:43,708 Then a couple weeks later when I saw him on the television... 1637 01:12:44,833 --> 01:12:46,875 I screamed, "My God! That's him!" 1638 01:12:47,750 --> 01:12:49,167 "That's Jack's friend!" 1639 01:12:51,042 --> 01:12:52,667 Will you testify, Beverly? 1640 01:12:55,042 --> 01:12:56,250 I don't think so. 1641 01:12:56,333 --> 01:12:58,458 Now I thought when we came here, we had an agreement. 1642 01:13:02,042 --> 01:13:04,500 I don't want to become another statistic, like her. 1643 01:13:04,583 --> 01:13:06,583 We could call you in, Beverly, we could call you in. 1644 01:13:06,667 --> 01:13:09,917 If they can kill the President of the United States... 1645 01:13:11,708 --> 01:13:15,333 do you think they're gonna think twice about a two-bit showgirl like me? 1646 01:13:21,458 --> 01:13:23,458 I understand the pressure you're under, Beverly. 1647 01:13:24,583 --> 01:13:26,167 Don't think for a minute I don't. 1648 01:13:27,667 --> 01:13:28,875 We both do. 1649 01:13:34,667 --> 01:13:36,792 Mr. Chief Justice... 1650 01:13:36,917 --> 01:13:40,792 You understand that I cannot tell the truth here, in Dallas? 1651 01:13:41,583 --> 01:13:44,292 There are people here who do not want me to tell the truth... 1652 01:13:45,083 --> 01:13:46,708 who don't want me to have a retrial? 1653 01:13:46,792 --> 01:13:50,333 Mr. Ruby, I don't see why you don't just tell us now. 1654 01:13:50,583 --> 01:13:52,417 My life is in danger! 1655 01:13:52,500 --> 01:13:55,000 If you request that I go back to Washington with you, 1656 01:13:55,083 --> 01:13:57,750 that is if you want to hear further testimony from me, 1657 01:13:58,583 --> 01:14:00,167 can you do that, can you take me with you? 1658 01:14:00,250 --> 01:14:04,750 No, that could not be done. There would be no safe place for you. 1659 01:14:04,833 --> 01:14:07,417 We're not law enforcement officers. 1660 01:14:08,417 --> 01:14:11,792 Mr. Ruby, there's a great deal at stake in this matter. 1661 01:14:12,750 --> 01:14:14,708 See, if I am eliminated... 1662 01:14:14,792 --> 01:14:19,250 there won't be any way of knowing any bit of the truth pertaining to my situation. 1663 01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,208 And, consequently, a whole new form of government 1664 01:14:23,292 --> 01:14:25,083 is going to take over this country. 1665 01:14:25,750 --> 01:14:26,583 Yeah! 1666 01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,792 And I know that I won't live to see you some other time. 1667 01:14:30,792 --> 01:14:32,167 ‘Cause I want to tell the truth... 1668 01:14:32,250 --> 01:14:35,125 and then... I want to leave this world. 1669 01:14:37,833 --> 01:14:41,333 The Zapruder film establishes three shots in 5.6 seconds. 1670 01:14:42,375 --> 01:14:44,125 Here. 1671 01:14:44,583 --> 01:14:45,792 I'm Oswald. 1672 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:47,792 Time me. 1673 01:14:49,417 --> 01:14:50,375 - Go. 1674 01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:56,750 Time? 1675 01:14:56,958 --> 01:14:58,625 Between six and seven seconds. 1676 01:14:58,708 --> 01:15:00,083 And that's without really aiming. 1677 01:15:00,167 --> 01:15:03,833 The key is the second and third shots came almost right on top of each other. 1678 01:15:04,667 --> 01:15:05,833 It takes a minimum... 1679 01:15:06,917 --> 01:15:09,625 2.3 seconds to recycle this thing. 1680 01:15:09,917 --> 01:15:11,750 The other problem is there was a tree there... 1681 01:15:12,417 --> 01:15:14,208 blocking the first two shots 1682 01:15:14,292 --> 01:15:16,792 at the time they occur in the Zapruder film. 1683 01:15:17,167 --> 01:15:19,417 Didn't J. Edgar Hoover say something about that? 1684 01:15:19,500 --> 01:15:21,000 The leaves had fallen off in November? 1685 01:15:21,083 --> 01:15:23,458 It was a Texas Live Oak, chief. 1686 01:15:24,042 --> 01:15:26,167 It sheds its leaves the first week of March. 1687 01:15:27,083 --> 01:15:30,333 You take this Carcano, the world's worst shoulder weapon, 1688 01:15:30,417 --> 01:15:33,708 and you try to hit a moving target at 88 yards, 1689 01:15:34,292 --> 01:15:36,833 through heavy foliage. No way. 1690 01:15:36,917 --> 01:15:37,958 Here. 1691 01:15:39,917 --> 01:15:42,292 FBI tried two sets of tests. 1692 01:15:42,375 --> 01:15:45,750 Not one of their sharpshooters could match Oswald's performance. 1693 01:15:45,833 --> 01:15:47,042 Not one. 1694 01:15:47,167 --> 01:15:49,667 And Oswald was, at best, a medium shot. 1695 01:15:50,250 --> 01:15:52,375 The scope was defective on it, too. 1696 01:15:52,917 --> 01:15:55,708 I mean this is the whole essence of the case to me. 1697 01:15:56,167 --> 01:15:58,083 The guy couldn't do the shooting. 1698 01:15:59,083 --> 01:16:00,333 - Nobody could. 1699 01:16:00,750 --> 01:16:03,292 And they sold this lemon to the American public. 1700 01:16:05,583 --> 01:16:07,875 The Zapruder film was the proof they didn't count on, Lou. 1701 01:16:09,042 --> 01:16:10,500 We got to get our hands on it. 1702 01:16:12,333 --> 01:16:15,542 That means we have to subpoena Time-Life. 1703 01:16:16,542 --> 01:16:18,000 Let me ask you something, Lou. 1704 01:16:18,750 --> 01:16:21,000 Why not just shoot Kennedy coming up Houston? 1705 01:16:21,375 --> 01:16:23,375 There's plenty of time. 1706 01:16:24,333 --> 01:16:25,333 He's out in the open. 1707 01:16:25,417 --> 01:16:27,208 I know, I keep asking myself the same thing. 1708 01:16:27,292 --> 01:16:28,208 It's a frontal shot. 1709 01:16:28,292 --> 01:16:30,083 Even if you miss him for the first shot, 1710 01:16:30,250 --> 01:16:32,125 if he accelerates, you still got him for the second shot. 1711 01:16:32,208 --> 01:16:34,583 Now, the only reason for waiting to get him on Elm, 1712 01:16:35,250 --> 01:16:38,417 is you got him in a triangulated crossfire, all right? 1713 01:16:39,042 --> 01:16:41,875 You put a team there, down at the fence, 1714 01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,833 for a frontal shot, flat, low trajectory. 1715 01:16:45,167 --> 01:16:50,000 Put a third team down here, in this building, here, on a low floor, 1716 01:16:50,083 --> 01:16:52,917 when Kennedy gets to the kill zone there, it's a turkey shoot. 1717 01:16:56,208 --> 01:16:57,417 How many men? 1718 01:16:57,750 --> 01:16:58,667 Okay. 1719 01:16:59,083 --> 01:17:00,500 One shooter, 1720 01:17:00,583 --> 01:17:03,583 one spotter on a radio, maybe three teams. 1721 01:17:05,708 --> 01:17:08,750 I'd say these were professional riflemen, too, chief, they're serious people. 1722 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:10,875 Hunters. 1723 01:17:13,167 --> 01:17:14,250 Patient. 1724 01:17:16,208 --> 01:17:18,583 Takes skill to kill with a rifle, chief. 1725 01:17:21,708 --> 01:17:24,958 You got to figure, that's why there's been no execution of a chief executive 1726 01:17:25,042 --> 01:17:26,458 with one in 200 years. 1727 01:17:29,458 --> 01:17:30,917 - Three... 1728 01:17:31,833 --> 01:17:32,792 two... 1729 01:17:34,500 --> 01:17:35,375 - one... 1730 01:17:45,208 --> 01:17:47,167 Main Street's over there, right? 1731 01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,250 Original parade route on the way to the Trade Mart. 1732 01:17:51,625 --> 01:17:52,958 Its too far, right? 1733 01:17:53,042 --> 01:17:54,125 Too far. 1734 01:17:54,417 --> 01:17:57,667 Impossible shot, so they change the parade route, 1735 01:17:58,458 --> 01:17:59,500 bring him down here, 1736 01:17:59,583 --> 01:18:01,583 moving at a normal 25 miles per hour. 1737 01:18:01,667 --> 01:18:04,750 They knew the motorcade would have to slow down to about 10 miles per hour 1738 01:18:04,833 --> 01:18:06,542 - to make that turn there, 1739 01:18:06,625 --> 01:18:07,958 and that's where you got him. 1740 01:18:15,583 --> 01:18:17,625 Who do you think changed the parade route, Lou? 1741 01:18:17,958 --> 01:18:18,875 Beats me. 1742 01:18:18,958 --> 01:18:21,500 Secret Service, city officials, Dallas police. 1743 01:18:21,958 --> 01:18:23,708 You know who the mayor was at the time? 1744 01:18:24,042 --> 01:18:25,125 Earle Cabell. 1745 01:18:25,708 --> 01:18:27,167 Guess who his brother is. 1746 01:18:27,250 --> 01:18:28,167 Who? 1747 01:18:28,667 --> 01:18:30,542 - General Charles Cabell. - Who? 1748 01:18:30,917 --> 01:18:32,750 Deputy Director of the CIA. 1749 01:18:32,833 --> 01:18:36,042 Kennedy fired him in '61 because of the Bay of Pigs fiasco. 1750 01:18:37,208 --> 01:18:39,792 Moved back to the Pentagon, called Kennedy a traitor. 1751 01:18:40,583 --> 01:18:42,125 When he came to New Orleans... 1752 01:18:42,417 --> 01:18:45,750 to address the Foreign Policy Association, you know who introduced him? 1753 01:18:45,833 --> 01:18:46,708 Who? 1754 01:18:47,083 --> 01:18:48,833 Our friend, Clay Shaw. 1755 01:18:48,917 --> 01:18:50,333 And the Warren Commission call him? 1756 01:18:50,750 --> 01:18:52,875 His boss was the one on the Warren Commission 1757 01:18:52,958 --> 01:18:55,125 who handled all the leads to the intelligence community. 1758 01:18:55,208 --> 01:18:56,417 Allen Dulles? 1759 01:18:56,500 --> 01:18:58,583 Head of the CIA since '53. 1760 01:18:59,500 --> 01:19:00,958 Kennedy fired them both. 1761 01:19:02,375 --> 01:19:04,625 Cabell was his deputy for nine years. 1762 01:19:05,667 --> 01:19:09,042 Talk about the fox investigating the chicken coop. 1763 01:19:10,833 --> 01:19:12,375 Now we'll have to subpoena them both. 1764 01:19:25,583 --> 01:19:26,958 Clay Bertrand? 1765 01:19:27,042 --> 01:19:29,917 Sure, I know him. Comes around the Quarter. 1766 01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,542 Who is he, Joe? I've been to all the bars, 1767 01:19:32,625 --> 01:19:34,125 nobody wants to talk. 1768 01:19:35,292 --> 01:19:36,917 Why should they talk to you? 1769 01:19:38,458 --> 01:19:42,250 I told your uncle I never met a lawman who wasn't a punk. 1770 01:19:46,250 --> 01:19:47,750 He's a big-shot businessman. 1771 01:19:47,833 --> 01:19:51,167 I seen him on the TV news a lot, with all the other big shots. 1772 01:19:52,042 --> 01:19:53,875 The guy's a fag, you know. 1773 01:19:54,375 --> 01:19:55,708 Goes by another name. 1774 01:19:56,292 --> 01:19:57,500 What's the other name? 1775 01:19:58,458 --> 01:20:00,833 Shaw. Clay Shaw. 1776 01:20:01,417 --> 01:20:03,083 Clay Bertrand is Clay Shaw? 1777 01:20:04,167 --> 01:20:06,167 The guy who used to run the International Trade Mart? 1778 01:20:06,292 --> 01:20:10,250 Yeah, what's the big mystery? Everybody down here knows the guy. 1779 01:20:11,708 --> 01:20:13,875 Then, why does he call himself Bertrand? 1780 01:20:14,042 --> 01:20:16,458 Who gives a shit what he calls himself. 1781 01:20:17,208 --> 01:20:19,083 Hey, what about that grand jury thing? 1782 01:20:19,167 --> 01:20:21,042 You think you're gonna give us a little help on that? 1783 01:20:21,125 --> 01:20:23,292 I hope so. We could use it. 1784 01:20:23,750 --> 01:20:25,167 Your hunch was right, boss. 1785 01:20:25,250 --> 01:20:27,625 But it's even spookier than we thought. 1786 01:20:27,792 --> 01:20:30,042 Starting in September '63 on, 1787 01:20:30,125 --> 01:20:32,792 - two months before the assassination, 1788 01:20:32,875 --> 01:20:36,083 there are sightings of Oswald all over Dallas, 1789 01:20:36,167 --> 01:20:37,208 buying ammunition... 1790 01:20:38,375 --> 01:20:39,667 Jasper, cut it out! 1791 01:20:39,750 --> 01:20:42,875 ...getting a telescopic sight fixed, going to rifle ranges. 1792 01:20:42,958 --> 01:20:43,917 Early November, 1793 01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,000 at a Dallas downtown Lincoln-Mercury dealership, 1794 01:20:47,083 --> 01:20:49,375 where he tells the salesman, Albert Bogard, 1795 01:20:49,458 --> 01:20:50,958 Let's take it out for a test drive. 1796 01:20:51,042 --> 01:20:52,292 ...despite the fact he has no license, 1797 01:20:52,375 --> 01:20:54,875 and, from what Marina says, doesn't know how to drive, 1798 01:20:54,958 --> 01:20:57,917 he hits the curves like A. J. Foyt at the Indy 500. 1799 01:20:58,083 --> 01:21:00,792 Bogard later told his boss he drove like a madman. 1800 01:21:00,875 --> 01:21:05,500 Hey, 300 bucks down now, Mr. Oswald, you can drive outta here. 1801 01:21:05,583 --> 01:21:06,500 What? 1802 01:21:07,083 --> 01:21:08,458 For this heap? 1803 01:21:08,583 --> 01:21:12,542 No honest, working man can afford to buy a car in this goddamn country anymore. 1804 01:21:12,708 --> 01:21:15,042 Maybe I'll have to go to Russia and buy a car. 1805 01:21:15,125 --> 01:21:18,458 Really dumb dialogue, like he's trying to draw attention to himself. 1806 01:21:18,542 --> 01:21:20,458 - Yeah, maybe you should. - A real moron. He walks out. 1807 01:21:20,542 --> 01:21:22,792 Salesman remembers him as about 5'7" 1808 01:21:22,875 --> 01:21:26,250 but we know from Oswald's draft card that he was actually 5°11". 1809 01:21:26,542 --> 01:21:28,792 Other witnesses see him on several separate days 1810 01:21:28,875 --> 01:21:30,500 - at different firing ranges. 1811 01:21:30,583 --> 01:21:32,833 - And one time, November 9th, 1812 01:21:32,917 --> 01:21:34,250 - he decides he needs to practice 1813 01:21:34,333 --> 01:21:36,083 - on the target of the guy next to him. 1814 01:21:36,167 --> 01:21:40,417 I didn't pay two bits for a target just to have someone else shoot at it. 1815 01:21:40,500 --> 01:21:43,708 - Hey, I'm sorry, buddy. 1816 01:21:44,750 --> 01:21:48,042 I thought I was shooting at that son-of-a-bitch Kennedy. 1817 01:21:49,083 --> 01:21:51,667 About as subtle as a cockroach crawling across a white rug. 1818 01:21:51,750 --> 01:21:54,458 Then he shows up at Silvia Odio's, 1819 01:21:54,542 --> 01:21:58,083 a Cuban lady in Dallas working in the anti-Castro underground. 1820 01:21:58,250 --> 01:22:01,500 The two Cubans introduce him as Leon Oswald. 1821 01:22:03,125 --> 01:22:05,167 - Because he is a friend of ours! - Something about the men bothers her. 1822 01:22:05,250 --> 01:22:09,042 About 48 hours later, one of the Cubans calls her back. 1823 01:22:09,125 --> 01:22:11,542 What did you think of Leon Oswald last night? 1824 01:22:11,625 --> 01:22:13,167 I don't care, I don't know Oswald. 1825 01:22:13,250 --> 01:22:14,333 You know what he said to us? 1826 01:22:14,417 --> 01:22:17,542 He said, "You Cubans don't have any guts, ‘cause Kennedy should have been killed 1827 01:22:17,625 --> 01:22:19,958 after the Bay of Pigs, and some Cubans should have done it." 1828 01:22:20,042 --> 01:22:21,875 It's like he's giving her information 1829 01:22:21,958 --> 01:22:23,667 - she doesn't even ask for. - Why did you tell me this? 1830 01:22:23,750 --> 01:22:25,958 She's scared, doesn't see them again... 1831 01:22:26,042 --> 01:22:29,250 till she sees Oswald's picture in the paper. 1832 01:22:29,333 --> 01:22:33,125 But the Warren Commission says that Silvia has bad eyesight 1833 01:22:33,208 --> 01:22:36,542 because they have Oswald in Mexico at this time, 1834 01:22:36,625 --> 01:22:38,125 trying to get back into Cuba. 1835 01:22:38,208 --> 01:22:42,083 The CIA has a camera outside the Cuban Embassy 1836 01:22:42,167 --> 01:22:44,292 and they say that this... 1837 01:22:44,833 --> 01:22:47,917 is Oswald in Mexico. Now... 1838 01:22:48,042 --> 01:22:51,958 If this is Oswald, it must be our third Oswald. 1839 01:22:52,042 --> 01:22:54,458 It's interesting, the extent to which the Warren Commission went 1840 01:22:54,542 --> 01:22:56,000 to make him a communist. 1841 01:22:56,667 --> 01:22:58,875 I'm beginning to think the whole point of the Mexican episode 1842 01:22:58,958 --> 01:23:02,125 was to lay the blame at Fidel Castro's door. 1843 01:23:02,792 --> 01:23:04,292 I mean, if Oswald, or someone 1844 01:23:04,375 --> 01:23:06,917 purporting to be Oswald, had gotten into Cuba, 1845 01:23:07,167 --> 01:23:09,125 come back, then killed the president, 1846 01:23:10,333 --> 01:23:13,417 the American public once again would've supported a Cuban invasion. 1847 01:23:13,500 --> 01:23:16,500 I even have doubts about this photo, boss. 1848 01:23:16,583 --> 01:23:19,042 - This pretty much convicted Oswald 1849 01:23:19,125 --> 01:23:23,083 in the public's mind, but Oswald told Captain Fritz during his interrogation 1850 01:23:23,167 --> 01:23:25,667 - that the photo was fake. - This is not me. 1851 01:23:25,750 --> 01:23:28,000 That came from Janet Williams' garage. 1852 01:23:28,083 --> 01:23:29,458 Well, I never saw this picture! 1853 01:23:29,542 --> 01:23:32,458 That is my face, but my face has been super-imposed. 1854 01:23:32,542 --> 01:23:34,083 The rest of the picture is not me at all, 1855 01:23:34,167 --> 01:23:35,583 and I have done a lot of photographic work, 1856 01:23:35,667 --> 01:23:37,792 and that picture was made by someone else! 1857 01:23:37,917 --> 01:23:40,125 I took this picture to two experts. 1858 01:23:40,750 --> 01:23:43,292 Look at the way the shadows on the nose... 1859 01:23:43,583 --> 01:23:45,833 fall in a straight line like it's high noon, 1860 01:23:45,917 --> 01:23:47,833 but the shadow down here on the ground reads more like 1861 01:23:47,917 --> 01:23:49,583 late afternoon or early morning. 1862 01:23:49,667 --> 01:23:51,125 It's not the same time. 1863 01:23:51,208 --> 01:23:53,833 Also, look at the crop marks across the chin. 1864 01:23:53,917 --> 01:23:56,917 It seems like this head is pasted onto somebody else's body, 1865 01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,250 implicating him with the rifle and the gun. 1866 01:23:59,583 --> 01:24:03,125 So who the hell are you, Alex Hidell or Lee Oswald? 1867 01:24:06,458 --> 01:24:08,375 Well, you're the policeman, you work it out. 1868 01:24:08,458 --> 01:24:11,417 Now it gets positively spooky. 1869 01:24:11,500 --> 01:24:16,458 In January, 1961 in New Orleans at the Bolton-Ford dealership, 1870 01:24:16,542 --> 01:24:19,208 when the Oswald we know is in Russia, 1871 01:24:19,958 --> 01:24:23,375 there's a man using the name "Oswald" to buy trucks 1872 01:24:23,458 --> 01:24:25,208 for the Friends of Democratic Cuba. 1873 01:24:25,292 --> 01:24:27,042 Salesman never sees him again, 1874 01:24:27,125 --> 01:24:29,417 but guess who's on the articles of incorporation 1875 01:24:29,500 --> 01:24:31,708 of the Friends for Democratic Cuba? 1876 01:24:31,792 --> 01:24:32,625 Who? 1877 01:24:32,708 --> 01:24:34,083 - Guy Banister. 1878 01:24:34,167 --> 01:24:36,792 - Banister has someone 1879 01:24:36,875 --> 01:24:39,333 using the name "Oswald" to buy the trucks. 1880 01:24:39,500 --> 01:24:43,750 Hoover, at the FBI, writes a memo dated June of 1960, 1881 01:24:43,833 --> 01:24:47,667 that someone could be using Oswald's passport and identity. 1882 01:24:47,750 --> 01:24:50,375 Goddamn, they put Oswald together from day one! 1883 01:24:50,458 --> 01:24:52,542 Like some dummy corporation in the Bahamas, 1884 01:24:52,625 --> 01:24:54,458 you just move him around a board. 1885 01:24:55,125 --> 01:24:56,458 Anybody want to quit? 1886 01:24:58,167 --> 01:25:00,458 All right, dumb question. Put your hands down. 1887 01:25:02,167 --> 01:25:03,250 Hey, Bill. 1888 01:25:03,500 --> 01:25:05,042 I found Clay Bertrand. 1889 01:25:05,500 --> 01:25:06,250 Who? 1890 01:25:06,333 --> 01:25:08,625 Grab your socks and hose and pull. 1891 01:25:08,917 --> 01:25:11,000 Clay Bertrand is Clay Shaw. 1892 01:25:11,083 --> 01:25:12,458 - Damn. - Shaw? 1893 01:25:12,542 --> 01:25:13,792 Director of the Trade Mart? 1894 01:25:13,875 --> 01:25:15,417 - Former director of the Trade Mart. - Oh, my God. 1895 01:25:15,500 --> 01:25:16,500 That's incredible. 1896 01:25:16,583 --> 01:25:18,500 Can you get some sworn statements? 1897 01:25:18,917 --> 01:25:21,542 Now, that's going to be tough. Nobody is talking. 1898 01:25:22,542 --> 01:25:24,667 I think we should have him in for a little chat. 1899 01:25:24,792 --> 01:25:27,208 Oh, honey, I hate for him to get dragged into this. 1900 01:25:27,292 --> 01:25:30,833 He's done so much for the city, with all that restoration in the Quarter. 1901 01:25:30,917 --> 01:25:33,042 Remember, we saw him at the Bali Ha'i fundraiser? 1902 01:25:33,125 --> 01:25:35,083 He seems like such a nice man. 1903 01:25:35,167 --> 01:25:36,958 Honey, it'll be off the record. 1904 01:25:37,208 --> 01:25:38,792 I'll bring him in on a Sunday. 1905 01:25:40,750 --> 01:25:42,917 Quiet, little chat between gentlemen. 1906 01:25:59,750 --> 01:26:01,417 In heavy fighting in Vietnam today, 1907 01:26:01,500 --> 01:26:03,542 seven more American soldiers died, 1908 01:26:03,625 --> 01:26:04,875 - and 23 were wounded. 1909 01:26:04,958 --> 01:26:08,042 The body count for this week now stands at 67 Americans 1910 01:26:08,125 --> 01:26:10,792 and 626 enemy soldiers killed in action. 1911 01:26:10,875 --> 01:26:11,625 Liz? 1912 01:26:11,708 --> 01:26:13,667 President Johnson, meanwhile, said he regretted 1913 01:26:13,750 --> 01:26:16,250 there is no end in sight to the war in Vietnam. 1914 01:26:16,333 --> 01:26:18,083 Five-hundred thousand American troops 1915 01:26:18,167 --> 01:26:19,250 - Out here, honey! - are now fighting... 1916 01:26:19,333 --> 01:26:20,542 We face more cost... 1917 01:26:21,333 --> 01:26:24,583 more loss... and more agony. 1918 01:26:24,708 --> 01:26:27,333 Come on outside and help the kids hunt for Easter eggs! 1919 01:26:27,458 --> 01:26:29,958 Oh, honey, that's the kids' job, all right? 1920 01:26:30,042 --> 01:26:32,500 You know I don't like these tribal rituals, anyway. 1921 01:26:32,583 --> 01:26:35,042 Besides, I told you I'm talking to Clay Shaw this morning. 1922 01:26:35,125 --> 01:26:38,083 Honey, we're going to Antoine's with the kids, like we do every year. 1923 01:26:38,167 --> 01:26:40,125 - No, I told you I was talking to Shaw. 1924 01:26:40,208 --> 01:26:42,792 Well, why in the world did you do it in the middle of Easter Sunday? 1925 01:26:42,875 --> 01:26:45,458 ‘Cause when I scheduled it, I didn't realize it was a holiday. 1926 01:26:45,542 --> 01:26:47,292 For Pete's sakes, honey, look at the calendar! 1927 01:26:47,375 --> 01:26:48,917 Liz, honey, you were there, why didn't you say something? 1928 01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:50,708 You said a Sunday, not Easter Sunday. 1929 01:26:50,958 --> 01:26:52,500 Clay Shaw is important. 1930 01:26:52,583 --> 01:26:53,792 And we're not. 1931 01:26:53,875 --> 01:26:55,167 I didn't say that, Liz. 1932 01:26:56,500 --> 01:26:57,625 I didn't say that. 1933 01:26:58,625 --> 01:27:01,750 You're missing most of your life, and you don't even know it, honey. 1934 01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,500 - The kids are missing out, too. 1935 01:27:04,583 --> 01:27:06,125 - You're not the only one making - Look, I'll rush, 1936 01:27:06,208 --> 01:27:08,458 - sacrifices around here. - And I'll be there by 2:00, I promise. 1937 01:27:08,542 --> 01:27:09,542 Okay? Now-- 1938 01:27:09,833 --> 01:27:11,625 You just go ahead without me. 1939 01:27:21,250 --> 01:27:23,750 Mr. Garrison, what can I do for you on Easter Sunday? 1940 01:27:23,917 --> 01:27:26,292 I'm sorry, Mr. Shaw, to interrupt this holiday, 1941 01:27:26,375 --> 01:27:28,667 but I feel this is a conversation we might better have 1942 01:27:28,750 --> 01:27:30,750 out of the everyday bustle in this office. 1943 01:27:31,083 --> 01:27:32,667 I'm not sure I understand. 1944 01:27:32,750 --> 01:27:34,667 Well, in an investigation we're conducting, 1945 01:27:34,750 --> 01:27:37,125 your name has come up a number of times. 1946 01:27:37,208 --> 01:27:38,750 I wouldn't imagine where. 1947 01:27:38,833 --> 01:27:41,958 We recently talked to a number of men who claim to know you. 1948 01:27:42,708 --> 01:27:44,417 Are you acquainted with a David Logan? 1949 01:27:44,583 --> 01:27:46,375 Uh, no. Never heard of him. 1950 01:27:47,458 --> 01:27:48,583 A Perry Russo? 1951 01:27:48,708 --> 01:27:49,625 No. 1952 01:27:50,792 --> 01:27:52,042 A Willie O'Keefe? 1953 01:27:53,875 --> 01:27:55,875 No, I don't believe I know anyone by that name. 1954 01:27:56,542 --> 01:28:00,250 Mr. O'Keefe told us he met you at the Masquerade Bar, down in the Quarter. 1955 01:28:01,208 --> 01:28:02,500 - And several evenings later, 1956 01:28:02,583 --> 01:28:05,208 you had him over for dinner at your apartment on Dauphine Street. 1957 01:28:05,292 --> 01:28:06,250 Do you recall that? 1958 01:28:06,333 --> 01:28:08,250 Of course not. I don't know this man. 1959 01:28:09,500 --> 01:28:10,792 Be still my heart. 1960 01:28:11,167 --> 01:28:13,750 Obviously then, I wouldn't have him over for dinner. 1961 01:28:13,833 --> 01:28:16,000 - Hope you like squab. 1962 01:28:17,458 --> 01:28:19,125 - Champagne? - Yeah. 1963 01:28:19,208 --> 01:28:23,208 Perhaps a few more details about the evening will refresh your memory. 1964 01:28:29,583 --> 01:28:32,833 Mr. O'Keefe told us dinner was served by a uniformed waiter. 1965 01:28:33,042 --> 01:28:34,125 A colored man. 1966 01:28:34,917 --> 01:28:37,875 He particularly remembered that you sat at one end and he at the other, 1967 01:28:37,958 --> 01:28:41,583 which he found rather unusual because the table was so long. 1968 01:28:42,375 --> 01:28:43,708 How was your mousse? 1969 01:28:43,792 --> 01:28:45,875 Does that bring back memories of Willie O'Keefe? 1970 01:28:46,292 --> 01:28:47,333 Not at all. 1971 01:28:48,208 --> 01:28:52,542 But on the other hand, I do have a lovely Chippendale dining table 1972 01:28:52,625 --> 01:28:56,375 and I often have a friend over sitting at one end, while I sit at the other. 1973 01:28:56,458 --> 01:29:00,292 It's precisely the point of a long dining table. 1974 01:29:00,375 --> 01:29:03,042 The splendor of the meal adds to the enjoyment of it. 1975 01:29:03,583 --> 01:29:05,708 I would imagine that a uniformed waiter helps. 1976 01:29:05,792 --> 01:29:07,083 It adds a taste of elegance, 1977 01:29:07,167 --> 01:29:09,958 for which I must confess a weakness, now and then. 1978 01:29:10,750 --> 01:29:12,208 I call him Smedley. 1979 01:29:13,125 --> 01:29:14,583 Real name is Frankie Jenkins, 1980 01:29:14,667 --> 01:29:18,000 but I could hardly imagine anything more uncouth during dinner... 1981 01:29:18,333 --> 01:29:22,000 than my turning toward the kitchen and hollering "Frankie!" 1982 01:29:27,250 --> 01:29:29,292 Where is all this leading to, Mr. Garrison? 1983 01:29:29,375 --> 01:29:31,708 After dinner, you paid him to have sex. 1984 01:29:35,083 --> 01:29:36,875 That is absolute nonsense. 1985 01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:42,333 The Quarter is filled with vivid imaginations, my dear Mr. Garrison. 1986 01:29:42,417 --> 01:29:44,375 Grimy young hoodlums, who will say and do 1987 01:29:44,458 --> 01:29:46,333 - anything, as you well know. - In the course of that night, 1988 01:29:46,417 --> 01:29:49,417 Mr. O'Keefe told us that a man named David Ferrie stopped by the house 1989 01:29:49,500 --> 01:29:51,333 along with another young man. 1990 01:29:53,125 --> 01:29:54,875 - Who? - David Ferrie. 1991 01:29:55,167 --> 01:29:58,333 No, I don't believe I know anyone by that name. 1992 01:29:58,417 --> 01:30:01,917 Course never having met Mr. O'Keefe I could hardly have met Mr. Ferrie. 1993 01:30:10,292 --> 01:30:12,250 - Here you go. Here you go. 1994 01:30:15,208 --> 01:30:17,667 - You're mine, Mary. You're mine. 1995 01:30:17,750 --> 01:30:20,625 The four of you partied early into the morning hours. 1996 01:30:20,958 --> 01:30:22,667 Look at this picture. 1997 01:30:23,542 --> 01:30:26,167 I'm sure I've never met anyone of such a bizarre appearance. 1998 01:30:30,583 --> 01:30:32,292 - Come here, bitch! 1999 01:30:32,375 --> 01:30:34,875 - Come here! 2000 01:30:34,958 --> 01:30:36,208 - The only way you get this 2001 01:30:36,292 --> 01:30:37,667 - is do exactly what I say. 2002 01:30:37,750 --> 01:30:39,250 - I'm the man, don't ever forget it! 2003 01:30:39,333 --> 01:30:40,875 - You want it? You want it? 2004 01:30:41,167 --> 01:30:43,542 Does the name Clay Bertrand mean anything to you? 2005 01:30:43,625 --> 01:30:46,167 - Clay Bertrand... Clay Bertrand. - Clay Bertrand. 2006 01:30:46,250 --> 01:30:48,167 I believe there was a man with a name similar to that, 2007 01:30:48,250 --> 01:30:50,667 worked over at the Chamber of Commerce. Is that the man you had in mind? 2008 01:30:50,750 --> 01:30:51,958 No, it was not. 2009 01:30:53,417 --> 01:30:55,875 Mr. Shaw, can you identify this man? 2010 01:30:55,958 --> 01:30:56,708 Naturally. 2011 01:30:56,792 --> 01:31:00,125 Are you claiming, Mr. Garrison, that Mr. Oswald also had dinner with me? 2012 01:31:00,208 --> 01:31:03,250 Mr. Shaw, have you ever met Lee Harvey Oswald? 2013 01:31:03,333 --> 01:31:07,167 You really have me consorting with a sordid cast of characters. 2014 01:31:07,250 --> 01:31:09,417 - Just answer the question. - Of course not. 2015 01:31:10,375 --> 01:31:12,167 Such a pity, that assassination. 2016 01:31:12,250 --> 01:31:14,542 In fact, I admired President Kennedy. 2017 01:31:14,625 --> 01:31:17,583 A man of true panache, wife of impeccable taste. 2018 01:31:17,667 --> 01:31:19,375 - I'm hungry! - Well, why don't we just go ahead 2019 01:31:19,458 --> 01:31:21,792 and order without your daddy, I don't think he'll mind. 2020 01:31:21,875 --> 01:31:23,375 I want a Shirley Temple! 2021 01:31:23,542 --> 01:31:25,875 - Oh, kids, put your water guns away. - Me, too! 2022 01:31:26,583 --> 01:31:29,042 - When's Daddy coming, Mama? 2023 01:31:29,250 --> 01:31:30,750 Soon, he's coming soon. 2024 01:31:30,833 --> 01:31:34,333 He's really sorry he couldn't start with us, but he promised he'd be here. 2025 01:31:34,417 --> 01:31:37,333 - Daddy never keeps his promises. 2026 01:31:37,417 --> 01:31:39,458 - I'm bored! 2027 01:31:41,417 --> 01:31:44,500 Mr. Shaw, this is an Italian newspaper article saying you were 2028 01:31:44,583 --> 01:31:47,542 a member of the Board of Centro Mondo Commerciale in Italy, 2029 01:31:48,333 --> 01:31:52,583 that this company was a creature of the CIA for the transfer of funds in Italy 2030 01:31:52,667 --> 01:31:55,167 for illegal political-espionage activity. 2031 01:31:55,708 --> 01:31:59,625 It says that this company was expelled from Italy for those activities. 2032 01:31:59,792 --> 01:32:01,417 I'm well aware of that asinine article. 2033 01:32:01,500 --> 01:32:05,083 I'm thinking very seriously of suing that rag of a newspaper. 2034 01:32:05,167 --> 01:32:07,833 It also says that this company is linked to the Schlumberger Tool Company, 2035 01:32:07,917 --> 01:32:09,125 here in Houma, Louisiana, 2036 01:32:09,208 --> 01:32:11,833 which helped provide arms to David Ferrie and his Cubans. 2037 01:32:11,917 --> 01:32:13,625 Mr. Garrison, you're reaching. 2038 01:32:13,792 --> 01:32:14,583 Am I? 2039 01:32:14,833 --> 01:32:18,625 I'm an international businessman. The Trade Mart, which I founded, 2040 01:32:18,708 --> 01:32:21,708 is America's commercial pipeline to Latin America. 2041 01:32:21,792 --> 01:32:23,375 I trade everywhere. 2042 01:32:23,458 --> 01:32:24,958 I am accused... 2043 01:32:25,042 --> 01:32:27,250 as are all businessmen, of all things. 2044 01:32:27,375 --> 01:32:31,708 I somehow go about my business, make money, help society the best I can, 2045 01:32:31,792 --> 01:32:34,167 and try to promote free trade in this world. 2046 01:32:34,292 --> 01:32:35,500 Mr. Shaw... 2047 01:32:35,792 --> 01:32:38,875 have you ever been a contract agent for the Central Intelligence Agency? 2048 01:32:43,625 --> 01:32:44,958 And if I were... 2049 01:32:45,875 --> 01:32:47,750 Mr. Garrison, do you believe... 2050 01:32:48,167 --> 01:32:49,875 I would be here today... 2051 01:32:50,292 --> 01:32:52,333 talking to somebody like you? 2052 01:32:55,875 --> 01:32:56,917 No. 2053 01:32:58,083 --> 01:32:59,917 People like you don't have to, I guess. 2054 01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:00,958 May I go? 2055 01:33:01,042 --> 01:33:03,833 People like you, they just walk between the raindrops. 2056 01:33:04,833 --> 01:33:05,750 May I go? 2057 01:33:08,208 --> 01:33:09,250 Yes. 2058 01:33:17,542 --> 01:33:20,292 Regardless of what you may think of me, Mr. Garrison, 2059 01:33:20,375 --> 01:33:23,000 I am a patriot first and foremost. 2060 01:33:23,083 --> 01:33:24,958 I've spent half my life in the United States military 2061 01:33:25,042 --> 01:33:27,042 serving and defending this great country, Mr. Shaw, 2062 01:33:27,125 --> 01:33:28,708 - and you're the first person I ever met 2063 01:33:28,792 --> 01:33:31,292 who considered it an act of patriotism to murder his own president. 2064 01:33:31,375 --> 01:33:33,667 Now, just a minute, sir. You are way out of line. 2065 01:33:33,750 --> 01:33:37,125 I'm sorry, Mr. Shaw, it's getting late. That's all the questions we have. 2066 01:33:37,458 --> 01:33:40,292 Thank you for your honesty and for coming in today. 2067 01:33:40,375 --> 01:33:42,792 I enjoyed meeting with you gentlemen. 2068 01:33:43,208 --> 01:33:46,000 And you, Miss Cox. It was most pleasant. 2069 01:33:51,542 --> 01:33:53,250 I wish to extend to each of you, 2070 01:33:53,333 --> 01:33:56,625 and to each of your families, my best wishes for a happy Easter. 2071 01:34:05,292 --> 01:34:07,708 "One may smile and smile and be a villain." 2072 01:34:09,292 --> 01:34:11,167 Goddammit, we got one of ‘em. 2073 01:34:12,208 --> 01:34:13,250 Did you see that? 2074 01:34:29,917 --> 01:34:31,833 - Hi, honey. - Hi. 2075 01:34:35,958 --> 01:34:38,625 - Tough day. - Daddy, where you been? 2076 01:34:39,750 --> 01:34:41,167 My sympathies. 2077 01:34:41,333 --> 01:34:44,792 Liz, I'm really sorry, but the meeting took much longer than expected. 2078 01:34:45,083 --> 01:34:46,375 Just a second, Jasper. 2079 01:34:46,625 --> 01:34:49,917 We waited for hours, Jim! 2080 01:34:51,458 --> 01:34:52,917 Honey, you could've telephoned. 2081 01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:55,708 I know, I don't know what to say, except I'm sorry, all right? 2082 01:34:55,792 --> 01:34:57,875 I just don't have rabbits on my mind. 2083 01:34:58,542 --> 01:34:59,583 You know what I think? 2084 01:34:59,667 --> 01:35:00,542 Daddy? 2085 01:35:00,625 --> 01:35:03,500 I think you care more about John Kennedy than your own family! 2086 01:35:03,875 --> 01:35:06,542 All day, the kids are asking, "Where's Daddy?" 2087 01:35:06,625 --> 01:35:08,667 What am I supposed to tell your kids, Jim! 2088 01:35:08,750 --> 01:35:10,167 - Papa? - I don't know what to tell them. 2089 01:35:10,250 --> 01:35:11,667 How about the truth? 2090 01:35:11,750 --> 01:35:13,917 I'm doing my job to make sure they can grow up in a country, 2091 01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:15,292 - Papa? - where justice won't be an arcane, 2092 01:35:15,375 --> 01:35:17,667 vanished idea they read about in history books. 2093 01:35:17,750 --> 01:35:19,167 - Oh, that sounds real dandy. - Like the dinosaurs, 2094 01:35:19,250 --> 01:35:21,125 - or the lost continent of Atlantis. - But it doesn't replace a husband 2095 01:35:21,208 --> 01:35:22,750 or a father on Easter Sunday. 2096 01:35:23,125 --> 01:35:25,000 Well, it's gonna get worse, Liz. 2097 01:35:37,667 --> 01:35:39,000 Do you know who killed President Kennedy? 2098 01:35:39,083 --> 01:35:40,667 Was there a conspiracy here in New Orleans? 2099 01:35:40,750 --> 01:35:43,208 - Excuse me, gentlemen. - I don't know what you're talking about. 2100 01:35:43,292 --> 01:35:44,708 - Get out of here! 2101 01:35:45,042 --> 01:35:47,625 - Watch out! Watch out! 2102 01:35:49,583 --> 01:35:52,083 Congratulations, boss, you're page one. 2103 01:35:52,375 --> 01:35:53,125 And it ain't pretty. 2104 01:35:53,208 --> 01:35:55,042 It says we've spend more than 8,000 dollars 2105 01:35:55,125 --> 01:35:56,875 on unexplained travel and investigative 2106 01:35:56,958 --> 01:35:59,500 expenses in a period since November 1966. 2107 01:35:59,583 --> 01:36:00,500 Goddamn! 2108 01:36:00,958 --> 01:36:02,250 They went to the public records. 2109 01:36:02,333 --> 01:36:05,250 They got the vouchers that we requested for withdrawals. 2110 01:36:05,375 --> 01:36:07,167 Shaw must've gotten them on our tail. 2111 01:36:07,250 --> 01:36:09,750 It could've been Ferrie, Martin, Andrews, any of ‘em. 2112 01:36:09,833 --> 01:36:10,583 Damnit! 2113 01:36:10,667 --> 01:36:14,500 We didn't talk to Ruby ‘cause of them and they're on our asses for a measly 8,000! 2114 01:36:14,583 --> 01:36:16,500 They hunted down the news, it's their business. 2115 01:36:16,583 --> 01:36:19,292 Well, you'd at least think they'd attempt to understand what we're trying to do! 2116 01:36:19,375 --> 01:36:21,833 Well, getting angry doesn't accomplish a damn thing! 2117 01:36:24,333 --> 01:36:26,000 Son of a bitch. 2118 01:36:26,667 --> 01:36:28,458 Well, this changes everything, now, doesn't it? 2119 01:36:29,292 --> 01:36:30,375 What do you mean? 2120 01:36:32,083 --> 01:36:33,000 Well... 2121 01:36:33,167 --> 01:36:36,667 Either we pull out now, or we go through some heavy flack together. 2122 01:36:39,625 --> 01:36:43,667 Bear in mind, each of you, this may affect the rest of your careers, your lives. 2123 01:36:44,875 --> 01:36:47,125 If any one of you want to pull out now, 2124 01:36:47,417 --> 01:36:50,333 I assure you I will bear no ill feelings towards that person 2125 01:36:50,417 --> 01:36:52,875 and will reassign you to regular duties. 2126 01:36:56,167 --> 01:36:57,208 There it is, then. 2127 01:36:57,875 --> 01:36:58,833 Thank you. 2128 01:36:58,917 --> 01:37:00,375 That means a great deal to me. 2129 01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:08,292 I'm giving this office 6,000 dollars from my National Guard savings account, 2130 01:37:08,458 --> 01:37:09,875 SO we cah continue. 2131 01:37:10,833 --> 01:37:13,917 I'll make speeches where I can and pick up additional money. 2132 01:37:14,417 --> 01:37:16,167 Mr. Garrison, what shall I tell them? 2133 01:37:16,250 --> 01:37:17,625 - They're piling up outside the door. 2134 01:37:17,708 --> 01:37:20,542 They want a statement, the phones are going crazier than bugs on a cake. 2135 01:37:20,625 --> 01:37:23,625 Neither confirm, deny, nor discuss, Sharon. 2136 01:37:25,333 --> 01:37:27,292 Goodbye, ladies, gentlemen. 2137 01:37:29,083 --> 01:37:31,583 I'm going home to where I can get a decent day's work done. 2138 01:37:31,917 --> 01:37:34,000 Mr. Garrison's own silence on the subject 2139 01:37:34,083 --> 01:37:35,625 has raised some interesting questions. 2140 01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:38,167 With taxpayer money, has he uncovered 2141 01:37:38,250 --> 01:37:39,792 - some valuable new evidence, 2142 01:37:40,125 --> 01:37:42,042 - or is he merely saving the information 2143 01:37:42,125 --> 01:37:44,375 which will gain, for him, exposure at a national level? 2144 01:37:47,500 --> 01:37:48,583 Yeah? 2145 01:37:48,667 --> 01:37:50,583 Did your office plant that garbage in the fuckin' paper? 2146 01:37:50,667 --> 01:37:52,792 - Who is this? - You know exactly who the fuck this is! 2147 01:37:52,875 --> 01:37:54,167 - Dave? - Yeah, you got it. 2148 01:37:54,250 --> 01:37:55,083 Listen... 2149 01:37:55,167 --> 01:37:57,292 Since you're the only straight shooter in that fuckin' office, 2150 01:37:57,375 --> 01:37:59,375 I'd like a fuckin' answer from you. Did you plant it? 2151 01:37:59,458 --> 01:38:00,833 Dave, you think we're out of our minds? 2152 01:38:00,917 --> 01:38:02,375 The whole building's been a zoo since that broke. 2153 01:38:02,458 --> 01:38:04,417 We can't get a thing done. Reporters crawling everywhere. 2154 01:38:04,500 --> 01:38:05,542 You think we want that? 2155 01:38:05,625 --> 01:38:07,250 Somebody planted that fuckin' story! 2156 01:38:07,333 --> 01:38:10,083 Somebody tipped off the press I'm one of fuckin' Garrison's suspects. 2157 01:38:10,208 --> 01:38:12,375 I can't-- I can't go home! 2158 01:38:12,458 --> 01:38:13,625 The fuckin' maggots are everywhere! 2159 01:38:13,708 --> 01:38:15,417 Do you know what you've done to me? 2160 01:38:15,500 --> 01:38:16,833 Calm down, Dave, what? 2161 01:38:16,917 --> 01:38:19,542 From here on, I am a fuckin' dead man. 2162 01:38:19,625 --> 01:38:21,042 - A dead man! - What are you talking about? 2163 01:38:21,125 --> 01:38:23,333 Dave, you even weren't mentioned in the story. Don't jump to conclusions. 2164 01:38:23,750 --> 01:38:27,125 Look, meet me in the lobby of the Fontainebleau in 20 minutes. 2165 01:38:27,500 --> 01:38:30,333 I guarantee you the boss will protect you. 2166 01:38:30,417 --> 01:38:32,625 He likes you, he likes your mind. 2167 01:38:36,375 --> 01:38:39,167 I guess, you know, I just don't know who to trust anymore, you know? 2168 01:38:39,250 --> 01:38:44,208 I suppose I could use a pot of hot coffee and a few packs of Luckies. 2169 01:38:45,083 --> 01:38:46,750 So you got anything new in the investigation? 2170 01:38:46,833 --> 01:38:48,000 Who you scared of, Dave? 2171 01:38:48,083 --> 01:38:49,375 Me? Everybody. 2172 01:38:49,792 --> 01:38:52,167 - Agency, mob, Cubans. 2173 01:38:52,708 --> 01:38:55,000 That's it, follow the Cubans. Check 'em out. 2174 01:38:55,708 --> 01:38:57,333 Here, Miami, Dallas. 2175 01:38:58,458 --> 01:39:00,833 Check out a guy named Eladio del Valle. 2176 01:39:00,917 --> 01:39:04,125 He used to be my paymaster when I flew missions into Cuba. 2177 01:39:04,542 --> 01:39:06,625 He's somewhere in Miami. You're on the right track. 2178 01:39:06,875 --> 01:39:08,542 Hey, hey! Don't be writing this down. 2179 01:39:08,625 --> 01:39:11,375 I ain't cooperating here with no one. What's going on here? 2180 01:39:11,458 --> 01:39:14,125 There's a death warrant for me! Don't you get it? 2181 01:39:14,667 --> 01:39:15,583 Damn! 2182 01:39:15,667 --> 01:39:17,500 Wait a minute, you ain't bugged, are you? 2183 01:39:17,583 --> 01:39:20,375 Son of a bitch, Lou. Are you? 2184 01:39:20,458 --> 01:39:21,292 Dave. 2185 01:39:21,375 --> 01:39:23,208 I always play square. No bugs. 2186 01:39:23,292 --> 01:39:26,375 I'd love you to go on the record, but I'm in no hurry. 2187 01:39:26,458 --> 01:39:27,292 - Whenever you're ready. 2188 01:39:27,458 --> 01:39:29,625 I haven't slept since that shit article come out. 2189 01:39:29,708 --> 01:39:31,542 Why'd you guys have to go and get me involved with this? 2190 01:39:31,625 --> 01:39:34,042 Did we get you involved or did Clay Shaw, Dave? 2191 01:39:34,125 --> 01:39:35,792 Cocksuckin' faggot! 2192 01:39:35,875 --> 01:39:37,958 - He got me by the balls. - What do you mean? 2193 01:39:38,458 --> 01:39:40,625 You know, photographs, compromising stuff. 2194 01:39:40,833 --> 01:39:43,417 And he'll use ‘em, too. The Agency plays for keeps. 2195 01:39:43,917 --> 01:39:46,833 I knew Oswald. He was in my Civil Air Patrol unit. 2196 01:39:46,917 --> 01:39:49,667 I taught him everything. He was a "wannabe," you know? 2197 01:39:49,750 --> 01:39:52,167 Nobody really liked him ‘cause they thought he was a snitch. 2198 01:39:52,250 --> 01:39:53,417 I treated him good. 2199 01:39:53,500 --> 01:39:56,625 He'd talk about his kid, you know, really wanted her to grow up with a chance, but-- 2200 01:39:56,708 --> 01:39:57,792 - What's this? 2201 01:39:57,875 --> 01:39:59,125 What's going on here? 2202 01:40:02,833 --> 01:40:04,125 Ain't nobody coming in here. 2203 01:40:04,458 --> 01:40:06,417 - Just room service. 2204 01:40:07,792 --> 01:40:09,125 Black, black-- just give it to me. 2205 01:40:09,208 --> 01:40:09,958 Black. 2206 01:40:10,042 --> 01:40:11,208 - Shit. 2207 01:40:11,292 --> 01:40:12,750 My neck is killing me. 2208 01:40:12,833 --> 01:40:14,583 I got cancer, I've had it for years. 2209 01:40:14,667 --> 01:40:16,792 I been working with mice, you know, trying to find a cure. 2210 01:40:17,125 --> 01:40:19,417 Did you ever work for the CIA? 2211 01:40:19,875 --> 01:40:23,000 You make it sound like some remote fuckin' experience in ancient history. 2212 01:40:23,625 --> 01:40:25,833 - Man, you don't leave the Agency. 2213 01:40:26,625 --> 01:40:28,625 Once you're in, they got you for life. 2214 01:40:29,208 --> 01:40:30,000 Shaw? 2215 01:40:30,083 --> 01:40:31,958 Shaw? Shaw's an "untouchable." 2216 01:40:32,042 --> 01:40:33,083 Highest clearance. 2217 01:40:33,167 --> 01:40:36,333 Shaw, Oswald, the Cubans-- all Agency. 2218 01:40:37,375 --> 01:40:38,292 What about Ruby? 2219 01:40:41,750 --> 01:40:43,417 Jack? Jack was a pimp. 2220 01:40:43,667 --> 01:40:45,417 He was a bagman for the Dallas mob. 2221 01:40:45,500 --> 01:40:47,875 He used to run guns to Castro when he was still on our side. 2222 01:40:48,958 --> 01:40:50,958 We almost had Castro with us, then we tried to whack him. 2223 01:40:51,292 --> 01:40:53,042 Everybody's flipping sides all the time. 2224 01:40:53,125 --> 01:40:55,000 It's fun and games, man, fun and games. 2225 01:40:55,083 --> 01:40:57,167 What about the mob, Dave? How do they figure in this? 2226 01:40:57,250 --> 01:40:58,625 They're Agency, too, man. 2227 01:40:58,708 --> 01:41:00,708 CIA and the mafia working together, 2228 01:41:00,792 --> 01:41:02,125 trying to whack out the Beard. 2229 01:41:02,208 --> 01:41:04,417 Mutual interests. They been doing it for years! 2230 01:41:04,500 --> 01:41:06,625 There's more to this than you could dream! 2231 01:41:06,708 --> 01:41:08,958 Check out something called "Mongoose." 2232 01:41:09,042 --> 01:41:10,417 "Operation Mongoose." 2233 01:41:10,542 --> 01:41:12,542 Government, Pentagon stuff. 2234 01:41:12,958 --> 01:41:14,167 They're in charge. 2235 01:41:14,250 --> 01:41:17,458 But who the fuck pulls whose chain? Who the fuck knows. 2236 01:41:17,667 --> 01:41:20,750 "Oh, what a deadly web we weave when we practice to deceive.” 2237 01:41:20,833 --> 01:41:22,083 Then who killed the president? 2238 01:41:22,167 --> 01:41:24,667 Oh, man, why don't you fuckin' stop it! 2239 01:41:24,750 --> 01:41:25,500 Shit! 2240 01:41:25,583 --> 01:41:26,458 Who did-- 2241 01:41:26,542 --> 01:41:28,500 This is too fuckin' big for you, you know that? 2242 01:41:28,583 --> 01:41:31,333 This is-- who did the president? Who killed Kennedy? 2243 01:41:31,417 --> 01:41:32,458 Fuck, man! 2244 01:41:32,542 --> 01:41:33,667 It's a mystery! 2245 01:41:33,750 --> 01:41:36,792 It's a mystery wrapped in a riddle inside an enigma! 2246 01:41:36,875 --> 01:41:39,500 The fuckin' shooters don't even know! Don't you get it? 2247 01:41:39,958 --> 01:41:41,167 Fuck, man! 2248 01:41:41,917 --> 01:41:43,333 I can't keep talking like this. 2249 01:41:43,417 --> 01:41:45,000 They're gonna fuckin' kill me! 2250 01:41:45,292 --> 01:41:47,167 I'm gonna fuckin' die! 2251 01:41:51,333 --> 01:41:52,375 Son of a bitch! 2252 01:41:52,458 --> 01:41:54,167 - It's all right, David. 2253 01:41:55,958 --> 01:41:58,000 I don't know what happened. 2254 01:41:58,875 --> 01:42:00,083 Fuck! 2255 01:42:06,625 --> 01:42:09,167 All I wanted in the world... 2256 01:42:11,167 --> 01:42:13,708 was to be a Catholic priest, 2257 01:42:14,458 --> 01:42:16,083 live in a monastery, 2258 01:42:16,167 --> 01:42:17,958 pray, serve God. 2259 01:42:19,333 --> 01:42:21,542 I had one fuckin'... 2260 01:42:22,875 --> 01:42:25,125 one terrible fuckin' weakness! 2261 01:42:25,542 --> 01:42:27,542 And they defrocked me! 2262 01:42:31,333 --> 01:42:34,583 Then I started to lose everything. 2263 01:42:36,500 --> 01:42:37,917 It's gonna be okay, Dave. 2264 01:42:38,333 --> 01:42:41,750 You just talk to us on the record and we'll protect you, I guarantee it. 2265 01:42:47,750 --> 01:42:49,417 They'd get to you, too. 2266 01:42:50,917 --> 01:42:52,458 They'll destroy you. 2267 01:42:54,500 --> 01:42:56,042 They're untouchable, man. 2268 01:42:59,458 --> 01:43:03,125 I'm so fuckin' exhausted, I can't see straight. 2269 01:43:14,458 --> 01:43:16,042 Out of here! 2270 01:43:16,417 --> 01:43:17,750 Oh, Lord. 2271 01:43:17,833 --> 01:43:19,458 A little early for Mardi Gras, isn't it? 2272 01:43:19,542 --> 01:43:21,667 Paris Match, largest magazine in France. 2273 01:43:21,750 --> 01:43:25,333 My name is Bulgarinov, I am with Literaturnaya Gazeta of Moscow. 2274 01:43:25,417 --> 01:43:27,917 Victoria Taylor, British Private Eye. 2275 01:43:28,417 --> 01:43:31,292 Do you know who shot the president? Mr. Garrison is too busy... 2276 01:43:31,375 --> 01:43:32,167 Boss, I'm telling you, 2277 01:43:32,250 --> 01:43:34,708 something or somebody is putting tremendous heat on David Ferrie. 2278 01:43:34,792 --> 01:43:37,625 If we sit on our behinds any longer, I don't think the guy's gonna hold on. 2279 01:43:37,708 --> 01:43:38,917 Look at this bullshit! 2280 01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:40,458 He keeps changing what he says. 2281 01:43:40,542 --> 01:43:42,875 We can't possibly call him to a grand jury. 2282 01:43:42,958 --> 01:43:44,250 Susie, watch the language, would you please? 2283 01:43:44,333 --> 01:43:46,583 My instinct is that Ferrie is gonna keep on deteriorating, 2284 01:43:46,667 --> 01:43:48,833 and we'll end up getting more out of him when he finally cracks. 2285 01:43:48,917 --> 01:43:50,042 Oh, bullshit! Now, if you start to-- 2286 01:43:50,125 --> 01:43:51,875 If we call him in now, he might freeze up 2287 01:43:51,958 --> 01:43:53,500 and we'll lose the best shot we ever had. 2288 01:43:53,583 --> 01:43:55,542 You guys don't get it, do you? He can't go down any further. 2289 01:43:55,625 --> 01:43:57,333 We got to protect him full time. 2290 01:43:57,417 --> 01:43:59,583 We don't have enough funds to protect anybody full time. 2291 01:43:59,667 --> 01:44:01,667 I know what you're going through with Ferrie, Lou, all right? 2292 01:44:01,750 --> 01:44:03,000 We'll talk tomorrow. 2293 01:44:03,417 --> 01:44:04,833 I got a plane to catch. 2294 01:44:05,167 --> 01:44:06,583 - Going to Washington. 2295 01:44:06,875 --> 01:44:07,708 Washington? 2296 01:44:07,875 --> 01:44:11,667 Yeah, an interesting lead says he's closely connected to these events, 2297 01:44:11,750 --> 01:44:13,125 but he won't come down here. 2298 01:44:13,208 --> 01:44:16,708 I'm onto Ferrie's Cuban paymaster, Eladio del Valle, in Miami. 2299 01:44:16,792 --> 01:44:19,542 I tell ya, I need more men. I got to get him in, boss. 2300 01:44:19,625 --> 01:44:21,375 I can't even pull the teams to watch Ferrie. 2301 01:44:21,458 --> 01:44:23,042 Listen, I gave this man my word. 2302 01:44:23,125 --> 01:44:24,708 This is our case! 2303 01:44:24,792 --> 01:44:27,333 - Hold it! Hold it! - For God's sake, Numa-- 2304 01:44:28,250 --> 01:44:29,708 I got something to show you. 2305 01:44:30,250 --> 01:44:32,667 I think you'll find it very interesting. 2306 01:44:32,750 --> 01:44:33,833 Numa, what is that thing? 2307 01:44:35,125 --> 01:44:37,542 Williams found this in your office. 2308 01:44:37,625 --> 01:44:40,292 We think the conference room is also bugged, maybe the phones. 2309 01:44:40,375 --> 01:44:42,125 We're gonna have to debug the whole place. 2310 01:44:42,208 --> 01:44:44,833 Bugging the DA's office! This is outrageous! 2311 01:44:44,917 --> 01:44:46,167 Mr. lvon, it's for you. It's urgent. 2312 01:44:46,250 --> 01:44:48,833 You can believe what you want to, but we're gonna have to be more careful. 2313 01:44:48,917 --> 01:44:51,625 All these new volunteers, I mean, any one of them could be-- 2314 01:44:51,708 --> 01:44:54,125 Okay, Numa, you handle it, all right? I don't have... 2315 01:44:54,375 --> 01:44:56,167 - I don't have time for this nonsense. 2316 01:44:58,250 --> 01:44:59,333 Well, we-- 2317 01:44:59,417 --> 01:45:02,292 We've obviously got the bastards worried now. 2318 01:45:04,500 --> 01:45:06,458 I'm coming to Washington. 2319 01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:13,583 Dave Ferrie's dead. 2320 01:45:14,458 --> 01:45:16,833 Found his body at his apartment a couple hours ago. 2321 01:45:42,417 --> 01:45:43,667 What's it look like, Nick? 2322 01:45:43,750 --> 01:45:46,917 I don't see any violence, Jim. Heart attack, maybe an aneurysm. 2323 01:45:47,375 --> 01:45:49,000 Looks like natural causes. 2324 01:45:49,083 --> 01:45:51,167 This is addressed to no one, and no signature. 2325 01:45:51,792 --> 01:45:54,750 "To leave this life is, for me, a sweet prospect. 2326 01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:57,125 I find nothing in it that is desirable, 2327 01:45:57,208 --> 01:46:00,208 and on the other hand, everything that is loathsome." 2328 01:46:00,792 --> 01:46:02,167 - Goes on and on. 2329 01:46:02,708 --> 01:46:07,083 "Daily we are propagandized more and more by the rising crime wave." 2330 01:46:07,708 --> 01:46:09,708 Pretty flowery for Dave Ferrie. 2331 01:46:31,167 --> 01:46:32,375 Proloid? 2332 01:46:34,708 --> 01:46:37,250 Yeah, I took it once for a low thyroid condition. 2333 01:46:38,125 --> 01:46:40,000 It raises the metabolism, Lou. 2334 01:46:41,750 --> 01:46:45,083 Did David Ferrie strike you as the kind of person with a low metabolism? 2335 01:46:45,333 --> 01:46:48,208 Hardly, I'd say the opposite. Hypertension. 2336 01:46:49,292 --> 01:46:52,542 You know, Ferrie was the only one to express any kind of remorse 2337 01:46:52,625 --> 01:46:53,833 about the whole thing. 2338 01:46:55,625 --> 01:46:57,208 I think it got him killed. 2339 01:46:57,667 --> 01:46:59,500 Lou? Boss? 2340 01:46:59,583 --> 01:47:01,417 More bad news from Miami. 2341 01:47:01,500 --> 01:47:04,750 They found Ferrie's Cuban friend, Eladio del Valle, today. 2342 01:47:05,042 --> 01:47:07,583 Hacked to death with a machete in his car. 2343 01:47:07,667 --> 01:47:11,042 He was tortured, shot in the heart at point-blank range, 2344 01:47:11,125 --> 01:47:12,958 and his skull was split open with an axe. 2345 01:47:13,042 --> 01:47:14,667 Now, ain't that the devil's piss. 2346 01:47:14,750 --> 01:47:18,208 Found another note, same thing, no name, no signature. 2347 01:47:18,292 --> 01:47:22,917 "When you receive this, I will be quite dead, so no answer will be possible. 2348 01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:25,125 - I offered you love, and all I got..." - Jesus. 2349 01:47:25,208 --> 01:47:27,500 They must've been hard pressed to come up with that one. 2350 01:47:27,583 --> 01:47:29,125 Nick, can I have a word with you? 2351 01:47:30,083 --> 01:47:32,625 What would happen if a man suffering from hypertension 2352 01:47:32,708 --> 01:47:35,083 were to take an entire bottle of Proloid? 2353 01:47:35,167 --> 01:47:36,333 He'd die pretty quick, 2354 01:47:36,417 --> 01:47:39,292 either a heart storm or a ruptured blood vessel in the brain. 2355 01:47:39,500 --> 01:47:40,500 Uh-huh. 2356 01:47:40,583 --> 01:47:43,250 Can you ascertain if there's Proloid in his system? 2357 01:47:43,750 --> 01:47:45,500 Not in a routine autopsy. 2358 01:47:45,708 --> 01:47:49,125 But if we looked at the spinal fluid, there might be a high level of iodine, 2359 01:47:49,208 --> 01:47:51,000 but it's difficult to know. 2360 01:47:51,083 --> 01:47:52,250 What you thinking, Jim? 2361 01:47:54,167 --> 01:47:55,708 I don't know, it doesn't make sense, Nick. 2362 01:47:55,792 --> 01:47:57,542 I mean, the man's afraid of dying, 2363 01:47:57,625 --> 01:48:00,542 then he kills himself in a way that leaves no trace? 2364 01:48:02,208 --> 01:48:04,625 But he leaves two unsigned suicide notes? 2365 01:48:05,167 --> 01:48:08,000 If it's a suicide, I seen weirder, Jim. 2366 01:48:08,750 --> 01:48:11,958 The fact is he's gone, chief, and so is our case. 2367 01:48:12,042 --> 01:48:13,792 Unless we go for Shaw now. 2368 01:48:13,875 --> 01:48:17,250 With whose testimony? Willie O'Keefe, a male prostitute? 2369 01:48:17,625 --> 01:48:20,583 Jack Martin, a drunk? Vernon Bundy, a dope fiend? 2370 01:48:20,667 --> 01:48:22,458 Shaw's got respect, Lou. 2371 01:48:22,542 --> 01:48:24,917 Newspaper editors, the American Bar Association-- 2372 01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:25,833 I agree with Bill. 2373 01:48:25,917 --> 01:48:27,667 - We haven't got the goods yet! - We wait... 2374 01:48:27,750 --> 01:48:29,917 Shaw's gonna get whacked. Now, how many corpses is it gonna take 2375 01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:32,000 before you lawyers figure out what's going on? 2376 01:48:32,083 --> 01:48:34,042 You watch your mouth! Ferrie did this to himself. 2377 01:48:34,833 --> 01:48:36,292 Where you going, boss? 2378 01:48:36,417 --> 01:48:39,792 I don't know, Bill. I just don't know. 2379 01:48:44,292 --> 01:48:46,167 - Hey, Bill! - Hey, where you at, Frank? 2380 01:48:46,625 --> 01:48:50,500 You're wasting your time here. Big Jim gave strict orders, no FBI allowed. 2381 01:48:50,583 --> 01:48:52,333 - It's you I want to talk to, Bill. - No, no. 2382 01:48:52,417 --> 01:48:54,708 Boss would fry me in hog fat if he knew I talked to you. 2383 01:48:54,792 --> 01:48:56,417 Your boss got a serious problem, Bill. 2384 01:48:56,500 --> 01:48:57,542 Real serious. 2385 01:48:57,625 --> 01:48:59,500 We know what's been going on over at your office. 2386 01:48:59,583 --> 01:49:01,000 Yeah, I guess you do. 2387 01:49:01,083 --> 01:49:03,417 You've got nothin', Bill. I'm talking as a friend now. 2388 01:49:03,500 --> 01:49:05,083 You're riding on the Titanic. 2389 01:49:05,167 --> 01:49:08,083 Time to jump off before you get destroyed along with Garrison. 2390 01:49:08,167 --> 01:49:09,583 Frank, I don't want to hear this. 2391 01:49:09,667 --> 01:49:11,917 We're talking about your career, here, Bill, your life. 2392 01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:13,250 You're a young guy. 2393 01:49:13,750 --> 01:49:15,292 We know you're working that Castro thing. 2394 01:49:15,375 --> 01:49:16,583 - No, I'm not. - Yes, you are. 2395 01:49:16,917 --> 01:49:19,292 Look we know Oswald didn't pull that trigger. 2396 01:49:19,375 --> 01:49:20,417 Castro did. 2397 01:49:21,333 --> 01:49:23,042 But if that comes out, there's gonna be a war, boy. 2398 01:49:23,125 --> 01:49:24,792 Millions of people are gonna die. 2399 01:49:24,875 --> 01:49:27,292 And that's a hell of a lot more important than Jim Garrison. 2400 01:49:27,375 --> 01:49:29,625 Goddammit, look at me when I talk to you! 2401 01:49:29,708 --> 01:49:31,375 - You're goddamn too self-opinionated-- - I can't, I can't! 2402 01:49:31,458 --> 01:49:32,458 Shut up! Shut up! 2403 01:49:33,083 --> 01:49:35,542 If you got a brain in that thick skull of yours, you'll listen to me. 2404 01:49:35,917 --> 01:49:37,542 You listen real hard. 2405 01:49:38,375 --> 01:49:39,583 Now, get in the car. 2406 01:50:01,417 --> 01:50:02,667 Jim Garrison? 2407 01:50:04,250 --> 01:50:05,208 Yes. 2408 01:50:06,250 --> 01:50:07,792 I'm glad you came. 2409 01:50:07,875 --> 01:50:09,917 Sorry about the precautions. 2410 01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:12,542 Well, I just hope it was worth my while, Mr... 2411 01:50:13,708 --> 01:50:15,792 I could give you a false name, but I won't. 2412 01:50:16,250 --> 01:50:17,542 Just call me "X." 2413 01:50:19,042 --> 01:50:22,208 I've already been warned by the Agency, Mr. Whoever, so 2414 01:50:22,292 --> 01:50:24,375 if this is another type of threat, I don't-- 2415 01:50:24,458 --> 01:50:26,375 I'm not with the Agency, Mr. Garrison. 2416 01:50:27,250 --> 01:50:30,833 And I assume if you've come this far, what I have to say interests you. 2417 01:50:31,250 --> 01:50:34,458 But I'm not going to name names, or tell you who or what I represent. 2418 01:50:35,125 --> 01:50:36,792 Except to say you're close. 2419 01:50:38,375 --> 01:50:39,875 Closer than you think. 2420 01:50:40,875 --> 01:50:41,917 Okay? 2421 01:50:43,708 --> 01:50:46,417 Everything I'm gonna tell you is classified top secret. 2422 01:50:47,458 --> 01:50:49,250 I was a soldier, Mr. Garrison. 2423 01:50:49,500 --> 01:50:50,542 Two wars. 2424 01:50:51,208 --> 01:50:53,500 I was one of those secret guys in the Pentagon 2425 01:50:53,583 --> 01:50:56,917 that supplies the military hardware, planes, bullets, rifles, 2426 01:50:57,458 --> 01:50:59,667 for what we call "Black Operations." 2427 01:51:00,250 --> 01:51:01,375 "Black Ops." 2428 01:51:01,458 --> 01:51:05,333 Assassinations, coup d'états, rigging elections, propaganda, psych warfare, 2429 01:51:05,417 --> 01:51:06,333 and so forth. 2430 01:51:06,750 --> 01:51:10,292 World War Il, I was in Rumania, Greece, Yugoslavia. 2431 01:51:10,917 --> 01:51:13,625 I helped evacuate part of the Nazi intelligence apparatus 2432 01:51:13,708 --> 01:51:15,042 just before the end of the war. 2433 01:51:15,375 --> 01:51:18,125 We used those guys in the fight against the communists. 2434 01:51:18,417 --> 01:51:23,250 In Italy '48, stole the elections. France '49, broke the strikes. 2435 01:51:23,667 --> 01:51:28,000 Overthrew Quirino in the Philippines, Arbenz in Guatemala, Mossadegh in Iran. 2436 01:51:28,292 --> 01:51:32,708 We were in Vietnam in '54, Indonesia '58, Tibet '59. 2437 01:51:33,250 --> 01:51:34,833 Got the Dalai Lama out. 2438 01:51:35,917 --> 01:51:36,875 We were good. 2439 01:51:37,667 --> 01:51:38,875 Very good. 2440 01:51:39,833 --> 01:51:42,750 Then we get into the Cuban thing. Not so good. 2441 01:51:42,833 --> 01:51:46,292 Set up all the bases for the invasion supposed to take place in October '62. 2442 01:51:46,375 --> 01:51:47,250 Mm-hmm. 2443 01:51:47,333 --> 01:51:50,500 Khrushchev sent the missiles to resist the invasion, Kennedy didn't invade... 2444 01:51:50,583 --> 01:51:53,042 and we were standing out there with our dicks in the wind. 2445 01:51:53,167 --> 01:51:55,958 A lot of pissed-off people, Mr. Garrison. 2446 01:51:56,417 --> 01:51:57,458 You understand? 2447 01:51:58,167 --> 01:51:59,667 I'll come to that later. 2448 01:52:00,292 --> 01:52:02,625 So... 1963. 2449 01:52:03,208 --> 01:52:06,167 I spent much of September '63 2450 01:52:06,375 --> 01:52:09,333 working on the Kennedy plan for getting all US personnel 2451 01:52:09,417 --> 01:52:12,333 out of Vietnam by the end of 1965. 2452 01:52:12,708 --> 01:52:15,792 This plan was one of the strongest, most important papers issued 2453 01:52:15,875 --> 01:52:17,000 from the Kennedy White House. 2454 01:52:17,250 --> 01:52:19,792 His National Security Action Memo 263 2455 01:52:19,875 --> 01:52:22,333 ordered home the first 1,000 troops for Christmas. 2456 01:52:22,958 --> 01:52:24,167 But then in November, 2457 01:52:24,250 --> 01:52:27,333 One week after the murder of Vietnamese President Diem in Saigon, 2458 01:52:27,417 --> 01:52:29,833 and two weeks before the assassination of our president, 2459 01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:31,958 a strange thing happened to me. 2460 01:52:40,208 --> 01:52:40,958 Colonel. 2461 01:52:41,083 --> 01:52:43,583 Excuse me, I got a note saying you wanted to see me, General? 2462 01:52:44,292 --> 01:52:45,208 I do indeed. 2463 01:52:45,792 --> 01:52:47,583 You are going to the South Pole. 2464 01:52:48,542 --> 01:52:49,375 lam? 2465 01:52:49,583 --> 01:52:50,333 You are. 2466 01:52:50,417 --> 01:52:53,125 Dr. Mooney's got the details, I want you to check with him. 2467 01:52:53,375 --> 01:52:55,000 Have yourself a nice vacation. 2468 01:52:55,500 --> 01:52:58,375 I was sent by my superior officer, we'll call him "Y,"” 2469 01:52:58,750 --> 01:53:01,708 I was sent by General Y to the South Pole, 2470 01:53:02,458 --> 01:53:05,958 as the military escort for a group of international VIPs. 2471 01:53:06,708 --> 01:53:09,708 I was on my way back, in New Zealand, 2472 01:53:10,750 --> 01:53:12,333 when the president was killed. 2473 01:53:14,125 --> 01:53:15,042 Now... 2474 01:53:15,125 --> 01:53:19,042 Oswald was charged at 7 p.m. Dallas time with Tippit's murder. 2475 01:53:19,125 --> 01:53:23,083 That's 2:00 in the afternoon of the next day, New Zealand time. 2476 01:53:23,167 --> 01:53:24,250 But already... 2477 01:53:24,333 --> 01:53:26,250 their papers had the entire history 2478 01:53:26,333 --> 01:53:29,167 of this unknown 24-year-old man, Oswald, 2479 01:53:29,250 --> 01:53:32,542 studio picture, detailed biographical data, Russian information, 2480 01:53:32,625 --> 01:53:35,583 and were pretty sure of the fact that he killed the president alone, 2481 01:53:35,667 --> 01:53:37,375 although it took them four more hours 2482 01:53:37,458 --> 01:53:39,958 before they even charged him with that crime in Dallas. 2483 01:53:42,417 --> 01:53:43,833 It felt to me as if... 2484 01:53:45,333 --> 01:53:47,542 well, a cover story was being put out, 2485 01:53:47,625 --> 01:53:49,167 like we would in a Black Op. 2486 01:53:50,333 --> 01:53:52,750 Anyway, after I came back, 2487 01:53:53,375 --> 01:53:54,708 I asked myself, 2488 01:53:54,792 --> 01:53:58,750 why was I, the chief of special ops, selected to travel to the South Pole 2489 01:53:58,833 --> 01:54:02,083 at that time to do a job that any number of others could have done? 2490 01:54:02,167 --> 01:54:04,333 And I wondered if it could've been because... 2491 01:54:04,417 --> 01:54:07,042 One of my routine duties, if I had been in Washington, 2492 01:54:07,125 --> 01:54:09,583 would've been to arrange for additional security in Texas. 2493 01:54:09,667 --> 01:54:11,500 So I decided to check it out... 2494 01:54:11,583 --> 01:54:13,042 and sure enough, I found out 2495 01:54:13,125 --> 01:54:16,417 that someone had told the 112th Military Intelligence Group 2496 01:54:16,500 --> 01:54:20,125 at 4th Army Headquarters at Fort Sam Houston to "stand down" that day 2497 01:54:20,333 --> 01:54:23,792 over the protests of the unit commander, Colonel Reich. 2498 01:54:23,875 --> 01:54:24,917 I believe it's a mistake. 2499 01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:28,250 Now this is significant because it is standard operating procedure, 2500 01:54:28,333 --> 01:54:31,042 especially in a known hostile city like Dallas, 2501 01:54:31,125 --> 01:54:32,792 to supplement the Secret Service. 2502 01:54:32,875 --> 01:54:35,042 I mean, even if we had not allowed the bubbletop 2503 01:54:35,125 --> 01:54:36,625 to be removed from the limousine, 2504 01:54:36,708 --> 01:54:41,042 we would've placed at least 100 to 200 agents on the sidewalk, without question. 2505 01:54:41,417 --> 01:54:43,042 I mean, only a month before in Dallas, 2506 01:54:43,125 --> 01:54:45,667 UN Ambassador Adlai Stevenson was spit on and hit. 2507 01:54:45,750 --> 01:54:47,208 - Right, yeah. - There had already been several attempts 2508 01:54:47,292 --> 01:54:48,542 on de Gaulle's life in France. 2509 01:54:48,750 --> 01:54:50,667 We would have arrived days ahead of time, 2510 01:54:50,792 --> 01:54:52,792 studied the route, checked all the buildings, 2511 01:54:52,875 --> 01:54:55,708 never would've allowed all those wide-open empty windows overlooking Dealey. 2512 01:54:55,792 --> 01:54:56,542 Never! 2513 01:54:56,625 --> 01:54:58,625 We'd've had our own snipers covering the area. 2514 01:54:58,708 --> 01:55:01,042 The minute a window went up, they'd have been on the radio. 2515 01:55:01,125 --> 01:55:02,250 We'd've been watching the crowd, 2516 01:55:02,333 --> 01:55:04,625 packages, rolled-up newspapers, coat over an arm, 2517 01:55:04,708 --> 01:55:07,167 never would have let a man open an umbrella along the way. 2518 01:55:07,250 --> 01:55:10,042 Never would've allowed that limousine to slow down to 10 miles an hour, 2519 01:55:10,125 --> 01:55:12,667 much less take that unusual curve at Houston and EIm. 2520 01:55:13,458 --> 01:55:16,542 You would have felt an Army presence in the streets that day, 2521 01:55:16,625 --> 01:55:18,250 but none of this happened. 2522 01:55:18,333 --> 01:55:22,000 It was a violation of the most basic protection codes we have. 2523 01:55:22,083 --> 01:55:25,458 And it is the best indication of a massive plot in Dallas. 2524 01:55:27,125 --> 01:55:28,958 Now who could've best done this? 2525 01:55:29,292 --> 01:55:31,583 Black Ops, Mr. Garrison. People in my business. 2526 01:55:31,667 --> 01:55:34,875 People like my superior officer could've called Colonel Reich and said 2527 01:55:34,958 --> 01:55:38,292 "Look, we have another unit coming from so and so providing security. 2528 01:55:38,375 --> 01:55:40,417 You'll stand down." I mean, that day, in fact, 2529 01:55:40,500 --> 01:55:43,000 there were some individual Army Intelligence people in Dallas 2530 01:55:43,083 --> 01:55:44,958 I'm still trying to figure out who and why. 2531 01:55:45,208 --> 01:55:46,958 But they weren't protecting the client. 2532 01:55:47,042 --> 01:55:48,375 And, of course, Oswald. 2533 01:55:48,625 --> 01:55:51,708 Army Intel had a "Harvey Lee Oswald" on file, 2534 01:55:52,042 --> 01:55:54,250 but all those files have been destroyed. 2535 01:55:54,625 --> 01:55:55,875 Many strange things were happening, 2536 01:55:55,958 --> 01:55:58,917 and your Lee Harvey Oswald had nothing to do with them. 2537 01:56:01,042 --> 01:56:03,458 We had the entire cabinet on a trip to the Far East. 2538 01:56:03,542 --> 01:56:06,667 We had one third of a combat division returning from Germany 2539 01:56:06,750 --> 01:56:10,000 in the air above the United States at the time of the shooting. 2540 01:56:10,583 --> 01:56:14,458 At 12:34 p.m., the entire telephone system went out in Washington 2541 01:56:14,542 --> 01:56:16,125 for a solid hour, 2542 01:56:16,208 --> 01:56:18,250 and on the plane back to Washington, 2543 01:56:18,333 --> 01:56:21,542 word was radioed from the White House Situations Room to Lyndon Johnson 2544 01:56:21,625 --> 01:56:23,625 that one individual performed the assassination. 2545 01:56:23,708 --> 01:56:26,125 Does that sound like a bunch of coincidences to you, Mr. Garrison? 2546 01:56:26,208 --> 01:56:27,000 No. 2547 01:56:27,083 --> 01:56:28,083 Not for one moment. 2548 01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:31,833 The cabinet was out of the country to get their perceptions out of the way. 2549 01:56:32,583 --> 01:56:34,583 Troops were in the air for possible riot control. 2550 01:56:34,667 --> 01:56:36,958 The telephones didn't work to keep the wrong stories from spreading 2551 01:56:37,042 --> 01:56:38,792 if anything went wrong with the plan. 2552 01:56:38,875 --> 01:56:40,375 Nothing was left to chance. 2553 01:56:40,708 --> 01:56:43,667 He could not be allowed to escape alive. 2554 01:56:46,625 --> 01:56:49,042 Well, I never thought things were the same after that. 2555 01:56:50,542 --> 01:56:51,792 Vietnam started for real. 2556 01:56:51,875 --> 01:56:53,458 There was an air of... 2557 01:56:53,542 --> 01:56:54,375 I don't know, 2558 01:56:54,458 --> 01:56:56,875 make-believe in the Pentagon and the CIA. 2559 01:56:56,958 --> 01:56:59,042 Those of us who'd been in secret ops since the beginning 2560 01:56:59,125 --> 01:57:00,875 knew the Warren Commission was fiction, 2561 01:57:01,792 --> 01:57:03,458 but there was something... 2562 01:57:03,833 --> 01:57:05,083 something deeper. 2563 01:57:05,458 --> 01:57:06,500 Uglier. 2564 01:57:06,583 --> 01:57:09,667 I knew Allen Dulles very well, I briefed him many a time in his house. 2565 01:57:10,042 --> 01:57:12,750 But for the life of me, I still can't figure out why he was appointed 2566 01:57:12,833 --> 01:57:14,125 to investigate Kennedy's death. 2567 01:57:14,208 --> 01:57:15,542 The man who had fired him. 2568 01:57:15,875 --> 01:57:19,125 Dulles, by the way, was General Y's benefactor. 2569 01:57:21,333 --> 01:57:23,000 I get out in '64. 2570 01:57:23,625 --> 01:57:25,292 Resigned my commission. 2571 01:57:27,083 --> 01:57:30,375 I never realized Kennedy was so dangerous to the establishment. 2572 01:57:31,792 --> 01:57:32,958 Is that why? 2573 01:57:33,833 --> 01:57:35,583 That's the real question, isn't it? 2574 01:57:35,667 --> 01:57:36,458 "Why?" 2575 01:57:36,875 --> 01:57:40,500 The "how" and the "who" is just scenery for the public. 2576 01:57:41,083 --> 01:57:44,333 Oswald, Ruby, Cuba, the mafia... 2577 01:57:44,667 --> 01:57:46,500 keeps them guessing like some kind of parlor game, 2578 01:57:46,583 --> 01:57:49,083 prevents them from asking the most important question: "Why?" 2579 01:57:49,917 --> 01:57:51,667 Why was Kennedy killed? 2580 01:57:51,750 --> 01:57:53,042 Who benefitted? 2581 01:57:53,333 --> 01:57:55,042 Who has the power to cover it up? 2582 01:57:55,542 --> 01:57:56,583 Who? 2583 01:57:59,833 --> 01:58:01,667 In 1961... 2584 01:58:02,833 --> 01:58:04,000 right after the Bay of Pigs-- 2585 01:58:04,083 --> 01:58:06,167 Very few people know about this, all right? 2586 01:58:06,917 --> 01:58:11,750 I participated in drawing up National Security Action Memos 55, 56, 57. 2587 01:58:11,833 --> 01:58:13,333 - General? - These are crucial documents, 2588 01:58:13,417 --> 01:58:16,500 classified top secret, but basically in them... 2589 01:58:16,583 --> 01:58:19,208 Kennedy instructed General Lemnitzer, chairman of the Joint Chiefs, 2590 01:58:19,292 --> 01:58:20,708 - that from here on forward, 2591 01:58:20,792 --> 01:58:23,542 the Joint Chiefs of Staff would be wholly responsible 2592 01:58:23,625 --> 01:58:26,417 for all covert paramilitary action in peacetime. 2593 01:58:26,833 --> 01:58:29,375 This basically ended the reign of the CIA. 2594 01:58:29,583 --> 01:58:32,000 Splintered it, as JFK promised he would, 2595 01:58:32,083 --> 01:58:33,333 into a thousand pieces, 2596 01:58:33,417 --> 01:58:36,583 and now he was ordering the military to help him do it. 2597 01:58:36,667 --> 01:58:37,833 This was unprecedented! 2598 01:58:38,083 --> 01:58:39,500 I can't tell you 2599 01:58:39,583 --> 01:58:42,833 the shock waves that this sent along the corridors of power in Washington. 2600 01:58:42,917 --> 01:58:45,667 This and, of course, the firing of Allen Dulles, Richard Bissell, 2601 01:58:45,750 --> 01:58:47,125 and General Charles Cabell, 2602 01:58:47,583 --> 01:58:50,792 all of them sacred cows in Intel since World War II. 2603 01:58:51,417 --> 01:58:53,417 You got some very upset people here. 2604 01:58:54,625 --> 01:58:57,583 Kennedy's directives were never really implemented because of... 2605 01:58:57,667 --> 01:58:59,875 bureaucratic resistance, 2606 01:59:00,667 --> 01:59:02,458 but one of the results was... 2607 01:59:02,958 --> 01:59:06,500 the Cuban operation was turned over to my department 2608 01:59:07,125 --> 01:59:08,917 as "Operation Mongoose." 2609 01:59:09,792 --> 01:59:12,125 Mongoose was pure Black Ops. 2610 01:59:12,375 --> 01:59:15,625 It was secretly based in the south campus of Miami University, 2611 01:59:15,833 --> 01:59:18,667 which was the largest domestic CIA station, 2612 01:59:19,083 --> 01:59:21,750 budgeted annually over hundreds of millions of dollars. 2613 01:59:22,125 --> 01:59:25,167 Three hundred agents, 7,000 select Cubans, 2614 01:59:25,708 --> 01:59:28,042 50 fake business fronts for laundering money. 2615 01:59:28,500 --> 01:59:30,958 They waged non-stop war against Castro. 2616 01:59:31,125 --> 01:59:33,875 Industrial sabotage, crop burning, the works. 2617 01:59:34,167 --> 01:59:36,792 And all of this came under the control of General Y. 2618 01:59:37,208 --> 01:59:40,042 All he did was take the rules of covert warfare he'd used abroad, 2619 01:59:40,125 --> 01:59:41,375 and brought them into this country. 2620 01:59:41,958 --> 01:59:44,208 Now he had the people, the equipment, the bases, 2621 01:59:44,917 --> 01:59:46,208 and the motivation. 2622 01:59:46,542 --> 01:59:49,333 And don't underestimate the budget cuts that Kennedy called for 2623 01:59:49,417 --> 01:59:50,875 in March of '63 either. 2624 01:59:51,417 --> 01:59:56,583 Nearly 52 military installations in 25 states, 21 overseas bases. 2625 01:59:56,667 --> 01:59:57,917 You're talking big money. 2626 01:59:58,250 --> 02:00:00,875 You know how many helicopters have been lost in Vietham? 2627 02:00:00,958 --> 02:00:01,875 Hmm? 2628 02:00:02,542 --> 02:00:04,875 - Nearly 3,000 so far. 2629 02:00:05,208 --> 02:00:08,167 Who makes them? Bell Helicopter. Who owns Bell? 2630 02:00:08,625 --> 02:00:11,500 Well, Bell was nearly bankrupt when the First National Bank of Boston 2631 02:00:11,583 --> 02:00:15,208 approached the CIA about developing the helicopter for Indochina usage. 2632 02:00:15,292 --> 02:00:16,917 How about the F-111 fighters? 2633 02:00:17,250 --> 02:00:19,875 General Dynamics of Fort Worth, Texas. Who owns that? 2634 02:00:20,208 --> 02:00:22,500 Find out the defense budget since the war began. 2635 02:00:22,833 --> 02:00:25,208 Seventy-five going on 100 billion. 2636 02:00:25,500 --> 02:00:27,708 Nearly 200 billion will be spent before it's over. 2637 02:00:28,833 --> 02:00:30,833 In 1949, it was 10 billion. 2638 02:00:30,958 --> 02:00:33,125 No war, no money. 2639 02:00:33,917 --> 02:00:38,958 The organizing principle of any society, Mr. Garrison, is for war. 2640 02:00:39,542 --> 02:00:43,542 The authority of the state over its people resides in its war powers. 2641 02:00:43,833 --> 02:00:46,667 And Kennedy wanted to end the Cold War in his second term. 2642 02:00:46,917 --> 02:00:50,625 He wanted to call off the moon race in favor of cooperation with the Soviets. 2643 02:00:50,708 --> 02:00:53,083 He signed a treaty with the Soviets to ban nuclear testing, 2644 02:00:53,167 --> 02:00:56,000 he refused to invade Cuba in 1962, 2645 02:00:56,083 --> 02:00:58,125 and he set out to withdraw from Vietnam. 2646 02:00:59,875 --> 02:01:03,792 But all of that ended on the 22nd of November, 1963. 2647 02:01:04,625 --> 02:01:09,042 As early as 1961 they knew Kennedy was not going to go to war in Southeast Asia. 2648 02:01:09,417 --> 02:01:13,125 Like Caesar, he is surrounded by enemies and something's underway, 2649 02:01:13,208 --> 02:01:16,708 but it has no face, yet everybody in the loop knows. 2650 02:01:16,792 --> 02:01:18,333 You can forget about your combat troops. 2651 02:01:18,542 --> 02:01:22,292 He told McNamara he is gonna pull out the goddamned advisors! 2652 02:01:23,208 --> 02:01:28,042 He fucked us in Laos, and now, he is gonna fuck us in goddamn Vietnam! 2653 02:01:28,167 --> 02:01:31,208 He won't implement it before the election, he can't afford to. 2654 02:01:31,458 --> 02:01:33,833 I hear the NSC meeting was a real barn-burner. 2655 02:01:33,917 --> 02:01:37,417 I wouldn't have missed it for the world. Heads are gonna roll everywhere. 2656 02:01:37,500 --> 02:01:39,000 Did you hear what Lemnitzer did? 2657 02:01:39,083 --> 02:01:39,917 What happened? 2658 02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:43,500 Kennedy tried to rub Lem's nose in shit, saying if we didn't go into Cuba, 2659 02:01:43,583 --> 02:01:48,083 which is so close, why should we go into Vietnam, which is so far away. 2660 02:01:48,167 --> 02:01:51,125 Son of a bitch, there he goes again. He's got his hands on the chicken switch. 2661 02:01:51,208 --> 02:01:55,167 Anyway, Lem said that the Chiefs still think we oughta go into Cuba. 2662 02:01:55,250 --> 02:01:57,667 - Money's at stake. Big money. 2663 02:01:57,958 --> 02:01:59,750 Hundred billion dollars. 2664 02:02:00,292 --> 02:02:03,417 Kennedy brothers target voting districts for those defense dollars. 2665 02:02:03,542 --> 02:02:05,125 They give TFX fighter contracts 2666 02:02:05,208 --> 02:02:07,917 only to those counties that are gonna make a difference in '64. 2667 02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:10,833 And the people in the loop, they fight back. Their way. 2668 02:02:10,917 --> 02:02:13,750 We have to control the intelligence from Saigon. 2669 02:02:13,833 --> 02:02:17,583 Well, just don't let McNamara start sticking his damn nose in this thing! 2670 02:02:17,958 --> 02:02:21,917 Every time he goes over to Saigon on some fuckin' fact-finding mission, 2671 02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:25,125 he comes back and just scares the shit out of the president! 2672 02:02:25,375 --> 02:02:29,375 Now I want Max Taylor on him night and day, like a fly on shit. 2673 02:02:30,208 --> 02:02:34,375 Now you control McNamara, then you control Kennedy. 2674 02:02:34,500 --> 02:02:36,083 I think it started like that, 2675 02:02:36,333 --> 02:02:37,708 in the wind. 2676 02:02:37,792 --> 02:02:41,208 Defense contractors, big oil bankers. Just conversations, nothing more. 2677 02:02:41,292 --> 02:02:45,625 Then, a call is made, maybe to someone like my superior officer, General Y. 2678 02:02:45,917 --> 02:02:48,250 - Yeah? - We're going. 2679 02:02:48,333 --> 02:02:49,792 We need your help. 2680 02:02:49,875 --> 02:02:54,333 - When? - In the fall, probably in the South. 2681 02:02:54,458 --> 02:02:57,458 - We want you to come up with a plan. - I can do that. 2682 02:02:57,542 --> 02:03:00,958 Everything is cellularized. No one has said, "He must die.” 2683 02:03:01,250 --> 02:03:04,958 There's been no vote, nothing's on paper, there's no one to blame. 2684 02:03:05,083 --> 02:03:07,583 It's as old as the crucifixion. 2685 02:03:07,750 --> 02:03:09,875 - Or the military firing squad. 2686 02:03:10,250 --> 02:03:13,625 Five bullets, one blank. No one's guilty. 2687 02:03:13,875 --> 02:03:16,000 Because everyone in the power structure who knows anything 2688 02:03:16,083 --> 02:03:17,750 has a plausible deniability. 2689 02:03:17,875 --> 02:03:21,833 There are no compromising connections, except at the most secret point. 2690 02:03:22,625 --> 02:03:26,042 But what's paramount, is that it must succeed, no matter how many die, 2691 02:03:26,125 --> 02:03:30,167 no matter how much it costs, the perpetrators must be on the winning side. 2692 02:03:30,250 --> 02:03:34,583 And never subject to prosecution for anything by anyone. 2693 02:03:34,833 --> 02:03:36,917 That is a coup d'état. 2694 02:03:40,917 --> 02:03:43,583 Kennedy announces the Texas trip in September. 2695 02:03:44,042 --> 02:03:47,708 At that moment, second Oswalds start popping up all over Dallas, 2696 02:03:47,792 --> 02:03:49,875 where they have the mayor and the cops in their pocket. 2697 02:03:50,458 --> 02:03:52,708 General Y flies in the assassins. 2698 02:03:52,792 --> 02:03:56,333 Maybe from the special camp we keep outside Athens, Greece. 2699 02:03:56,667 --> 02:03:57,625 Pros. 2700 02:03:57,708 --> 02:04:01,208 Maybe locals, Cubans, mafia hire. Separate teams. 2701 02:04:01,708 --> 02:04:05,458 Does it really matter who shot from what rooftop? 2702 02:04:07,167 --> 02:04:09,125 Part of the scenery, right? 2703 02:04:09,208 --> 02:04:13,625 I keep thinking about that day, Tuesday, the 26th of November. 2704 02:04:13,708 --> 02:04:15,583 The day after they buried Kennedy. 2705 02:04:15,667 --> 02:04:20,000 Gentlemen, I want you to know, I'm not gonna let Vietham go like China did. 2706 02:04:20,083 --> 02:04:21,917 I'm personally committed. 2707 02:04:22,000 --> 02:04:24,042 And I'm not gonna take one soldier outta there 2708 02:04:24,125 --> 02:04:26,583 till they know we mean business in Asia. 2709 02:04:26,750 --> 02:04:30,250 Lyndon Johnson signs National Security Memo 273, 2710 02:04:30,333 --> 02:04:32,875 which essentially reverses Kennedy's new withdrawal policy 2711 02:04:32,958 --> 02:04:35,833 and gives the green light to covert action against North Vietnam, 2712 02:04:35,917 --> 02:04:37,875 which provoked the Gulf of Tonkin incident. 2713 02:04:37,958 --> 02:04:41,375 Just get me elected, I'll give you your damn war. 2714 02:04:43,083 --> 02:04:44,333 In that document... 2715 02:04:45,875 --> 02:04:47,125 lay the Vietham War. 2716 02:04:51,250 --> 02:04:52,667 I don't-- I can't... 2717 02:04:53,042 --> 02:04:56,333 I can't believe it. They killed him because he wanted to change things? 2718 02:04:57,958 --> 02:04:59,208 In our time? 2719 02:04:59,292 --> 02:05:01,208 - They been doing it all through history. - In our country? 2720 02:05:01,333 --> 02:05:05,125 Kings are killed, Mr. Garrison. Politics is power, nothing more. 2721 02:05:05,875 --> 02:05:07,708 Oh, don't take my word for it. Don't believe me. 2722 02:05:07,792 --> 02:05:09,750 Do your own work, your own thinking. 2723 02:05:11,875 --> 02:05:13,708 The size of this is... 2724 02:05:14,125 --> 02:05:15,542 beyond me. 2725 02:05:16,250 --> 02:05:17,458 Testify? 2726 02:05:17,708 --> 02:05:19,042 - Me? - Testify. 2727 02:05:20,833 --> 02:05:22,250 No chance in hell. 2728 02:05:22,875 --> 02:05:25,583 No, I'd be arrested and gagged. 2729 02:05:25,667 --> 02:05:28,583 Maybe sent to an institution, maybe worse. You, too. 2730 02:05:29,583 --> 02:05:31,333 I can give you the background. 2731 02:05:31,417 --> 02:05:33,458 You have to find the foreground, the little things. 2732 02:05:33,833 --> 02:05:34,583 Keep digging. 2733 02:05:34,667 --> 02:05:37,750 Remember, you're the only person to bring a trial in the murder of John Kennedy. 2734 02:05:37,833 --> 02:05:39,792 That's important, it's historic. 2735 02:05:40,708 --> 02:05:41,875 I haven't yet. 2736 02:05:42,958 --> 02:05:45,458 I don't have much of a case. 2737 02:05:46,500 --> 02:05:48,375 You don't have a choice anymore. 2738 02:05:48,708 --> 02:05:52,417 You've become a significant threat to the national security structure. 2739 02:05:52,750 --> 02:05:55,500 They would've killed you already, but you got a lot of light on you. 2740 02:05:55,833 --> 02:05:57,917 Instead, they're trying to destroy your credibility. 2741 02:05:58,000 --> 02:06:00,167 They already have in many circles in this town. 2742 02:06:00,542 --> 02:06:01,500 Be honest. 2743 02:06:02,125 --> 02:06:04,542 Your only chance is to come up with a case. 2744 02:06:04,750 --> 02:06:06,625 Something, anything. 2745 02:06:07,083 --> 02:06:10,125 Make arrests, stir the shitstorm. 2746 02:06:10,333 --> 02:06:13,500 Hope to reach a point of critical mass that'll start a chain reaction 2747 02:06:13,583 --> 02:06:14,833 of people coming forward. 2748 02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:16,500 Then, the government will crack. 2749 02:06:17,083 --> 02:06:20,042 Remember, fundamentally people are suckers for the truth, 2750 02:06:20,542 --> 02:06:22,708 and the truth is on your side, bubba. 2751 02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:31,458 I just hope you get a break. 2752 02:07:17,458 --> 02:07:20,292 Mr. Shaw, sir, you are under arrest, 2753 02:07:20,375 --> 02:07:23,292 charged with conspiracy and entering an agreement with other persons 2754 02:07:23,375 --> 02:07:26,083 for the specific purpose of committing the crime of murder 2755 02:07:26,167 --> 02:07:27,833 of President John F. Kennedy. 2756 02:07:27,917 --> 02:07:29,833 We have a warrant to search the premises. 2757 02:07:31,083 --> 02:07:32,792 It is my duty to inform you at this time... 2758 02:07:33,792 --> 02:07:36,000 you have the right to remain silent, you have the right to an attorney. 2759 02:07:36,083 --> 02:07:37,833 Name. First, middle, and last. 2760 02:07:37,917 --> 02:07:39,458 Clay Lavergne Shaw. 2761 02:07:41,917 --> 02:07:42,917 Address? 2762 02:07:43,000 --> 02:07:46,042 1313 Dauphine Street, New Orleans. 2763 02:07:46,167 --> 02:07:47,500 Mr. Shaw! 2764 02:07:47,583 --> 02:07:49,208 Ever use any aliases? 2765 02:07:49,542 --> 02:07:50,875 Clay Bertrand. 2766 02:07:57,542 --> 02:07:59,667 Mr. Clark, are you aware of the charges 2767 02:07:59,750 --> 02:08:02,042 - filed by District Attorney Garrison? 2768 02:08:02,167 --> 02:08:04,333 Yes, Mr. Shaw was included in our investigation. 2769 02:08:05,125 --> 02:08:06,583 There was no connection found. 2770 02:08:06,667 --> 02:08:08,208 - At all. - Why did the FBI investigate him? 2771 02:08:08,417 --> 02:08:12,000 And why, if they did, is his name not mentioned once 2772 02:08:12,083 --> 02:08:14,750 in the entire 26 volumes of the Warren Report, 2773 02:08:14,833 --> 02:08:16,708 - even it if is to clear his name? 2774 02:08:17,958 --> 02:08:20,000 I doubt this attorney general would qualify 2775 02:08:20,083 --> 02:08:20,917 - for my staff. 2776 02:08:21,000 --> 02:08:25,875 Mr. Garrison has presented absolutely nothing publicly... 2777 02:08:25,958 --> 02:08:28,250 which would contradict our findings. 2778 02:08:29,375 --> 02:08:34,958 I know of no fact which would refute the Commission's conclusion 2779 02:08:35,042 --> 02:08:38,292 that Lee Oswald was the lone killer. 2780 02:08:38,375 --> 02:08:40,292 What's your reaction to the chief justice's statement? 2781 02:08:40,542 --> 02:08:42,458 Well, I congratulate Mr. Shaw. 2782 02:08:42,708 --> 02:08:45,667 Most defendants have to wait for trial before they're allowed to produce 2783 02:08:45,750 --> 02:08:49,833 sacred cows like the chief justice of the land as a character witness, 2784 02:08:49,917 --> 02:08:53,625 who is, of course, not under oath and free from the laws of perjury. 2785 02:08:56,125 --> 02:08:58,958 You realize that you're damaging the credibility of the country, 2786 02:08:59,042 --> 02:09:00,792 - possibly destroying it? - Let me ask you... 2787 02:09:00,875 --> 02:09:04,500 Let me ask you, is a government worth preserving when it lies to the people? 2788 02:09:04,583 --> 02:09:06,208 - Huh? 2789 02:09:06,292 --> 02:09:09,667 It has become a dangerous country, sir, when you cannot trust anyone anymore, 2790 02:09:09,750 --> 02:09:11,208 when you cannot tell the truth. 2791 02:09:13,042 --> 02:09:15,833 I say, let justice be done, though the heavens fall! 2792 02:09:22,458 --> 02:09:26,083 The JFK conspiracy, the case of Jim Garrison. 2793 02:09:26,458 --> 02:09:29,917 - Honey, this is all about you! 2794 02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:34,125 A team of reporters has learned that District Attorney Jim Garrison 2795 02:09:34,208 --> 02:09:39,083 and his staff have intimidated, bribed, and even drugged witnesses 2796 02:09:39,167 --> 02:09:41,250 in their attempt to prove a conspiracy 2797 02:09:41,333 --> 02:09:46,542 involving New Orleans businessman Clay Shaw in the murder of John F. Kennedy. 2798 02:09:47,375 --> 02:09:48,875 John Chancler... 2799 02:09:48,958 --> 02:09:50,792 was a cellmate of Willie O'Keefe's 2800 02:09:50,875 --> 02:09:51,750 at Angola... 2801 02:09:51,833 --> 02:09:55,458 He said he'd be cut loose, if he copped to the DA's office. 2802 02:09:55,542 --> 02:09:57,208 I sent him up for burglary. 2803 02:09:58,292 --> 02:10:00,708 - And there's his old buddy Miguel Torres. 2804 02:10:01,708 --> 02:10:03,333 We sent him up, too. 2805 02:10:03,417 --> 02:10:05,708 They wanted me to say Shaw was Bertrand. 2806 02:10:05,958 --> 02:10:07,708 They said they'd get me a pardon. 2807 02:10:07,792 --> 02:10:09,333 Janet Williams 2808 02:10:09,417 --> 02:10:12,042 comments on Willie O'Keefe's descriptions 2809 02:10:12,125 --> 02:10:13,500 of having met Oswald. 2810 02:10:13,917 --> 02:10:15,167 Was he a homosexual? 2811 02:10:15,250 --> 02:10:18,167 That's not the Lee I knew. Absolutely not. 2812 02:10:18,250 --> 02:10:21,750 I think Mr. O'Keefe must have seen someone he thought was Lee Oswald. 2813 02:10:21,833 --> 02:10:23,000 I didn't talk to nobody 2814 02:10:23,083 --> 02:10:24,125 after the assassination. 2815 02:10:24,208 --> 02:10:26,083 I was on drugs at the hospital. 2816 02:10:26,208 --> 02:10:30,000 Like I told the FBI, that call was a figment of my imagination. 2817 02:10:30,083 --> 02:10:32,208 Personally, I think he's quite ill, mentally. 2818 02:10:32,583 --> 02:10:36,625 With one half of his mind, he is able to go out and fabricate evidence, 2819 02:10:36,875 --> 02:10:39,958 then by some osmosis, he is able to convince the other half 2820 02:10:40,042 --> 02:10:41,667 that the fabrication is the truth. 2821 02:10:41,750 --> 02:10:43,125 Well, I wouldn't worry about it, Liz. 2822 02:10:43,208 --> 02:10:46,417 There's only about 20, 30 million people watching this tonight. 2823 02:10:48,708 --> 02:10:52,417 Guess my reputation's all right with the people watching Laugh-in. 2824 02:10:52,750 --> 02:10:56,333 ...because in some way, Mr. Garrison is indebted 2825 02:10:56,417 --> 02:10:58,167 and tied to the mob? 2826 02:10:58,250 --> 02:11:00,500 The more one looks at Jim Garrison, 2827 02:11:00,583 --> 02:11:03,917 the more one finds he has destroyed reputations, 2828 02:11:04,000 --> 02:11:06,083 - spread fear and suspicion, 2829 02:11:06,167 --> 02:11:10,333 and, worst of all, exploited this nation's sorrow and doubt. 2830 02:11:10,417 --> 02:11:13,375 - Jim Garrison has said, quote: - You wanna be in bed with us? 2831 02:11:13,458 --> 02:11:15,125 - Sleep with me tonight? - "Let justice be done, 2832 02:11:15,208 --> 02:11:16,833 though the heavens fall." 2833 02:11:16,917 --> 02:11:19,542 He seeks the truth, so do we. 2834 02:11:31,583 --> 02:11:34,208 What Dr. Martin Luther King called his beautiful dream, 2835 02:11:34,292 --> 02:11:37,833 expressed so dramatically during the 1963 March on Washington, 2836 02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:41,375 was shattered tonight in Memphis, Tennessee by an assassin's bullet. 2837 02:11:41,458 --> 02:11:44,500 Police seem to think that the single shot came from across the street. 2838 02:11:44,917 --> 02:11:47,000 They say that they have found a Browning automatic rifle, 2839 02:11:47,083 --> 02:11:48,542 - fitted with a marksman's scope, 2840 02:11:48,625 --> 02:11:49,542 on a sidewalk. 2841 02:11:50,583 --> 02:11:53,208 - I'll get it! 2842 02:11:53,292 --> 02:11:54,417 Hello? 2843 02:11:54,500 --> 02:11:57,250 Hello, is this Jim Garrison's daughter? 2844 02:11:57,333 --> 02:11:58,333 Yes. 2845 02:11:58,417 --> 02:12:00,042 Virginia or Elizabeth? 2846 02:12:00,333 --> 02:12:01,375 Virginia. 2847 02:12:01,458 --> 02:12:04,000 Virginia, you're a lucky little girl. 2848 02:12:04,083 --> 02:12:06,375 Your daddy has entered you in a beauty contest. 2849 02:12:06,458 --> 02:12:08,917 - Would you like to be in a beauty contest? 2850 02:12:09,417 --> 02:12:10,625 - I don't know. - My God! 2851 02:12:10,708 --> 02:12:13,667 - My God, what have they done? 2852 02:12:13,750 --> 02:12:16,083 - Yes. Uh-huh. - It's lynchin' time. 2853 02:12:16,583 --> 02:12:18,333 It's lynchin' time. 2854 02:12:18,792 --> 02:12:20,333 That sounds fun. 2855 02:12:21,000 --> 02:12:22,375 And you get off from school 2856 02:12:22,458 --> 02:12:24,167 - Honey, who are you talking to? - ...at 3:00 everyday? 2857 02:12:24,417 --> 02:12:26,750 Okay, Virginia, that's all I need to know. 2858 02:12:26,833 --> 02:12:29,625 - Mommy, I'm gonna be in a beauty contest! 2859 02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:31,917 Who is this? Who is this?! 2860 02:12:32,917 --> 02:12:34,375 Hello? 2861 02:12:34,458 --> 02:12:37,500 Jim, did you enter Virginia in a beauty contest? 2862 02:12:37,583 --> 02:12:40,375 A man just called, he wanted to know everything, her height, her weight-- 2863 02:12:40,458 --> 02:12:41,667 It's some crackpot. 2864 02:12:41,750 --> 02:12:43,917 Martin Luther King was killed in Memphis, today. 2865 02:12:44,000 --> 02:12:45,667 Honey, your daughter's life's just been threatened! 2866 02:12:45,750 --> 02:12:49,042 Just a crank making calls, happens a dozen times a day at the office. 2867 02:12:49,125 --> 02:12:51,708 Our home, Jim! A kidnapper, a murderer, who knows! 2868 02:12:51,792 --> 02:12:53,417 Jesus Christ, Liz, only cowards make crank calls! 2869 02:12:53,500 --> 02:12:55,333 - How do you know? - All right? Nothing's gonna happen. 2870 02:12:55,417 --> 02:12:57,750 How do you even know what goes on in this house anymore! 2871 02:12:57,833 --> 02:12:59,958 You're too busy making speeches! 2872 02:13:00,042 --> 02:13:00,792 Liz-- 2873 02:13:00,875 --> 02:13:03,125 Getting every crazed Klansman in Louisiana after us! 2874 02:13:03,208 --> 02:13:04,917 - Get a hold of yourself. - I'm leaving! I'm taking the kids, 2875 02:13:05,000 --> 02:13:06,208 - Come on, come on! - and I'm leaving! 2876 02:13:06,375 --> 02:13:08,458 I can't stand it anymore! 2877 02:13:08,542 --> 02:13:10,458 - The government wants you to be scared. - You and your government. 2878 02:13:10,542 --> 02:13:13,167 The government wants everybody to be scared to speak out. 2879 02:13:13,250 --> 02:13:14,708 - What's the matter with you? - They count on it. 2880 02:13:14,792 --> 02:13:16,750 - Don't you have any feelings? - There's nothing to be scared of. 2881 02:13:19,500 --> 02:13:20,958 Your own daughter! 2882 02:13:21,708 --> 02:13:23,458 What kind of man are you? 2883 02:13:27,333 --> 02:13:30,292 I'll take them up to my mother's if it makes you feel any better, all right? 2884 02:13:30,375 --> 02:13:31,125 You spend a week. 2885 02:13:31,208 --> 02:13:33,167 - What's a week gonna do? - I'll change the locks, the phone lines, 2886 02:13:33,250 --> 02:13:36,292 I'll even get a bodyguard. Just get a hold of yourself. 2887 02:13:36,458 --> 02:13:37,875 Honey, before this Kennedy thing, 2888 02:13:37,958 --> 02:13:40,208 nothing mattered in this world more than your children. 2889 02:13:40,625 --> 02:13:43,625 The other night Jasper tried to talk to you, you didn't even notice he was there. 2890 02:13:43,708 --> 02:13:45,708 He came to me bawling his little eyes out. 2891 02:13:45,792 --> 02:13:47,042 - I promise, all right? - He's sensitive, honey. 2892 02:13:47,125 --> 02:13:49,208 - I promise I'll make more time for Jasper. - He needs more from you. 2893 02:13:49,292 --> 02:13:51,000 Is it such a chore? 2894 02:13:51,083 --> 02:13:53,375 - Goddammit, if I said I'll spend more time - I don't understand you! 2895 02:13:53,458 --> 02:13:55,250 with him, I'll spend more time with him, all right? 2896 02:13:55,333 --> 02:13:57,958 I cannot fight you and the whole world too, Liz! 2897 02:13:58,042 --> 02:14:00,917 I'm not fighting you, I'm trying to reach you! 2898 02:14:01,083 --> 02:14:03,792 - You've changed. - Of course, I've changed! 2899 02:14:04,750 --> 02:14:06,083 My eyes have opened. 2900 02:14:06,792 --> 02:14:09,542 And once they're open, believe me, what used to look normal seems insane. 2901 02:14:09,625 --> 02:14:12,958 And now King. Don't you think this has something to do with that? 2902 02:14:13,500 --> 02:14:14,708 - Can't you see? 2903 02:14:14,792 --> 02:14:16,250 - I don't wanna see, goddammit! 2904 02:14:16,333 --> 02:14:18,708 I'm tired. I've had enough! 2905 02:14:19,292 --> 02:14:20,917 You're ruining this man Shaw's life, 2906 02:14:21,000 --> 02:14:23,292 you're attacking him because he's a homosexual! 2907 02:14:23,375 --> 02:14:25,208 That's not why I'm attacking him! 2908 02:14:25,292 --> 02:14:28,667 Did you ever for once stop to consider what he was feeling? 2909 02:14:30,875 --> 02:14:32,708 You don't believe me? Hmm? 2910 02:14:32,792 --> 02:14:35,583 - Oh, I don't know anymore! - All this time and you never believed me! 2911 02:14:36,625 --> 02:14:40,625 I just want to raise our children and live a normal life! 2912 02:14:40,708 --> 02:14:42,500 I want my life back! 2913 02:14:43,458 --> 02:14:45,083 Well so do I, goddammit! 2914 02:14:45,833 --> 02:14:47,625 I had a life, too, you know. 2915 02:14:48,083 --> 02:14:51,750 But you just can't bury your head in the sand like some goddamn ostrich, Liz! 2916 02:14:52,333 --> 02:14:55,167 It's not about our well-being, all right? It's not about our two cars, 2917 02:14:55,250 --> 02:14:57,083 and our TVs and your kitchen! 2918 02:14:58,708 --> 02:15:02,000 It's about our kids growing up in a shithole of lies, and I'm angry about it! 2919 02:15:02,208 --> 02:15:04,250 And my life is fucked because of it. 2920 02:15:04,417 --> 02:15:07,458 And if you can see it that way, Liz, you'll see that your life is fucked, too. 2921 02:15:07,708 --> 02:15:10,125 You never talked to me this way before, Jim Garrison. 2922 02:15:10,208 --> 02:15:12,042 If you don't want to support me, fine, I can understand that. 2923 02:15:12,125 --> 02:15:14,042 But don't start making threats about taking the children. 2924 02:15:14,458 --> 02:15:16,250 I'm not making any threats, I'm leaving you! 2925 02:15:16,333 --> 02:15:18,917 - I'm taking the kids and I'm leaving! - Go on, then, fine. Get out! 2926 02:15:19,000 --> 02:15:21,292 - I am! - Go hide somewhere, join the rest of them. 2927 02:15:21,375 --> 02:15:22,875 - I am! - They'll tell you I'm crazy. 2928 02:15:22,958 --> 02:15:25,500 You'll get plenty of people to tell you I'm crazy! 2929 02:15:27,375 --> 02:15:30,167 You won't have any problems filling out your divorce papers on me! 2930 02:15:31,750 --> 02:15:33,667 But somebody's got to try, goddammit. 2931 02:15:34,500 --> 02:15:35,750 Somebody. 2932 02:15:40,125 --> 02:15:42,208 Are we going away, Daddy? 2933 02:15:49,583 --> 02:15:50,792 I don't know, Jasper. 2934 02:15:52,125 --> 02:15:53,917 Because of Kennedy? 2935 02:15:54,208 --> 02:15:56,708 Are the same people gonna kill us, Papa? 2936 02:15:57,333 --> 02:15:58,167 No, Jasper. 2937 02:15:59,542 --> 02:16:01,708 Nobody's gonna kill us. 2938 02:16:02,333 --> 02:16:03,667 I'm scared. 2939 02:16:04,500 --> 02:16:07,833 I don't like it when you and Mommy fight. 2940 02:16:10,250 --> 02:16:11,958 I know, I don't like it either, honey. 2941 02:16:13,375 --> 02:16:15,708 Why do we have to leave? 2942 02:16:16,125 --> 02:16:18,375 Don't you love us anymore? 2943 02:16:19,208 --> 02:16:22,917 Daddy... Daddy loves both of you, okay? 2944 02:16:24,667 --> 02:16:27,542 And there's nothing wrong with feeling a little scared, Jasper. 2945 02:16:28,250 --> 02:16:31,333 Telling the truth can be a scary thing sometimes. 2946 02:16:32,167 --> 02:16:35,167 It scared President Kennedy, and he was a brave man. 2947 02:16:36,417 --> 02:16:38,875 But if you let yourself be too scared... 2948 02:16:39,250 --> 02:16:42,125 then you let the bad guys take over the country, don't you? 2949 02:16:42,208 --> 02:16:43,958 Yeah. 2950 02:16:44,042 --> 02:16:45,875 Then everybody gets scared. 2951 02:16:46,583 --> 02:16:48,667 Stay with Mom, Papa. 2952 02:16:48,750 --> 02:16:50,083 Please? 2953 02:16:57,208 --> 02:16:59,000 - Damn. Here's another one. 2954 02:16:59,083 --> 02:17:02,292 The US Attorney in Washington declines to serve our subpoena 2955 02:17:02,375 --> 02:17:05,375 on Allen Dulles, Charles Cabell, CIA Director Richard Helms-- 2956 02:17:05,458 --> 02:17:06,833 any FBI agent we named. 2957 02:17:07,042 --> 02:17:09,250 Well, what do you expect from a pig but a grunt. 2958 02:17:09,875 --> 02:17:12,417 Without them, it's going to be near impossible, chief, 2959 02:17:12,500 --> 02:17:14,292 to prove Shaw's connection to the CIA. 2960 02:17:14,375 --> 02:17:15,917 What the hell is going on? 2961 02:17:16,000 --> 02:17:19,333 Never before has an extradition request from this office been refused. 2962 02:17:19,417 --> 02:17:21,625 We haven't tried to get Julia Ann Mercer in here. 2963 02:17:21,708 --> 02:17:23,125 No, she could get hurt. 2964 02:17:23,208 --> 02:17:24,083 What? 2965 02:17:24,167 --> 02:17:26,208 If you believe what's happened to these other people, no. 2966 02:17:26,292 --> 02:17:28,208 Yeah, but she's the best damn witness we have! 2967 02:17:28,292 --> 02:17:31,583 I just don't want to do it, that's all. Now, what else? 2968 02:17:32,625 --> 02:17:34,292 Well, you got your hate mail here. 2969 02:17:34,542 --> 02:17:36,667 And your fan mail here. 2970 02:17:37,292 --> 02:17:41,625 The bad news is that the IRS requested an audit of your income from this office. 2971 02:17:42,917 --> 02:17:44,708 Well, I expected that two months ago, 2972 02:17:45,250 --> 02:17:46,583 and they're wasting their time. 2973 02:17:49,500 --> 02:17:53,167 The bad news is the National Guard just asked me to resign after 18 years. 2974 02:17:55,000 --> 02:17:56,667 Well, maybe that's the good news. 2975 02:17:56,750 --> 02:17:58,667 Never was as good as combat, anyway. 2976 02:17:59,792 --> 02:18:00,958 But this is. 2977 02:18:02,458 --> 02:18:03,833 Bill, any more on Oswald and Shaw? 2978 02:18:04,333 --> 02:18:05,958 Uh, yeah, yeah. 2979 02:18:06,042 --> 02:18:08,917 They were seen together in Clinton in early September. 2980 02:18:09,458 --> 02:18:13,208 The Civil Rights Movement was running a voters' registration drive. 2981 02:18:13,708 --> 02:18:17,250 Rumor is Shaw, a local boy, was working on some arms deal 2982 02:18:17,333 --> 02:18:19,458 to discredit the civil rights movement. 2983 02:18:20,042 --> 02:18:22,875 Nobody really knows what they were doing there, but... 2984 02:18:22,958 --> 02:18:25,125 hell, they stood out like cotton balls. 2985 02:18:25,375 --> 02:18:27,708 I got whites and coloreds saw ‘em, but... 2986 02:18:28,125 --> 02:18:31,750 last time I checked, there was nothing illegal with registering to vote. 2987 02:18:32,458 --> 02:18:36,375 We still got the negro junkie, Vernon Bundy, 2988 02:18:36,458 --> 02:18:38,875 who saw 'em talkin' at the seawall near Lake Pontchartrain. 2989 02:18:39,542 --> 02:18:42,708 But, hell, it's tough, boss, nobody wants to talk about Shaw. He's-- 2990 02:18:42,792 --> 02:18:44,417 You keep saying-- see, you keep saying that! 2991 02:18:44,500 --> 02:18:46,000 - You're not digging! - I keep saying what? 2992 02:18:46,083 --> 02:18:47,292 - You're not digging deep enough. - I'm not digging? 2993 02:18:47,375 --> 02:18:50,292 - You do my job, I'll do your job! 2994 02:18:50,375 --> 02:18:53,500 I think Clinton is a breakthrough, now, all right? 2995 02:18:54,208 --> 02:18:56,667 Now, Shaw denies ever knowing Ferrie or Oswald, right? 2996 02:18:56,917 --> 02:18:57,750 Right. 2997 02:18:57,833 --> 02:18:59,375 All right, that proves he's a liar. 2998 02:19:01,583 --> 02:19:02,708 Keep on it, Bill. 2999 02:19:02,792 --> 02:19:04,125 This is interesting. 3000 02:19:04,208 --> 02:19:07,917 Oswald went to see the FBI two weeks before the assassination. 3001 02:19:08,000 --> 02:19:10,167 Can I see Special Agent Hosty, please? 3002 02:19:10,250 --> 02:19:12,083 I'm sorry, he's not in. Can someone else help you? 3003 02:19:12,167 --> 02:19:16,542 It seems Special Agent Hosty made three visits to Janet Williams' house, 3004 02:19:16,625 --> 02:19:18,250 supposedly to keep an eye on Marina. 3005 02:19:18,333 --> 02:19:19,250 He left a note. 3006 02:19:19,333 --> 02:19:22,667 Hosty told a Dallas newspaperman that it was a warning to him 3007 02:19:22,750 --> 02:19:26,250 to stop questioning Marina at home when Oswald was not present. 3008 02:19:26,333 --> 02:19:31,083 She was not a citizen, so possibly he was threatening to deport her back to Russia. 3009 02:19:31,500 --> 02:19:33,750 But what the note really said no one knows. 3010 02:19:34,292 --> 02:19:35,958 - Hosty tore it up, - Get rid of it! 3011 02:19:36,042 --> 02:19:37,708 - and flushed it down the toilet. - Get rid of it, Hosty. 3012 02:19:37,792 --> 02:19:39,208 This is just speculation, people, but 3013 02:19:39,292 --> 02:19:43,250 what if the note was describing the assassination attempt on JFK? 3014 02:19:49,167 --> 02:19:50,667 Come on, people, think! 3015 02:19:51,083 --> 02:19:53,208 That's the only reason to destroy it. 3016 02:19:53,875 --> 02:19:57,750 Because if it was any kind of threat, like Hosty said, they would've kept it, 3017 02:19:58,250 --> 02:20:01,750 ‘cause it makes their case against the "angry, lone nut” that much stronger. 3018 02:20:02,833 --> 02:20:04,708 Remember the New Orleans meeting with Agent Quigley 3019 02:20:04,792 --> 02:20:06,000 - the day he got arrested? 3020 02:20:06,417 --> 02:20:08,917 There, again, Quigley destroyed the notes from the interview. 3021 02:20:09,333 --> 02:20:13,125 I think we can raise the possibility that Oswald not only was an informant... 3022 02:20:14,125 --> 02:20:17,625 but that he may well have been the original source we have for the telex 3023 02:20:17,708 --> 02:20:19,250 dated November 17th, 3024 02:20:19,542 --> 02:20:23,708 warning of Kennedy's assassination in Dallas on November 22nd. 3025 02:20:25,917 --> 02:20:29,250 William Walter, the night clerk on duty in the FBI office here, 3026 02:20:29,333 --> 02:20:30,583 he gave me a copy of this, 3027 02:20:30,667 --> 02:20:33,208 said it went all over the country, nothing was done, 3028 02:20:33,292 --> 02:20:35,000 and the motorcade went ahead on schedule. 3029 02:20:35,083 --> 02:20:36,833 And this wasn't even mentioned in the Warren Report. 3030 02:20:36,917 --> 02:20:39,125 Determined that a militant revolutionary group 3031 02:20:39,208 --> 02:20:41,458 may attempt to assassinate President Kennedy 3032 02:20:41,542 --> 02:20:43,708 on his proposed trip to Dallas, Texas. 3033 02:20:43,792 --> 02:20:46,417 Shortly after the assassination, Walter says 3034 02:20:46,917 --> 02:20:49,833 that the telex was removed from all the files in all the cities, 3035 02:20:49,917 --> 02:20:52,208 as an obvious embarrassment to the Bureau. 3036 02:20:53,875 --> 02:20:56,500 I believe Oswald was sending information through Hosty. 3037 02:20:56,833 --> 02:20:58,583 I have a hunch that, from the get go, 3038 02:20:58,667 --> 02:21:03,208 Oswald had infiltrated this group, probably Cubans, right-wing extremists. 3039 02:21:03,292 --> 02:21:05,708 - He was told to be at the book depository 3040 02:21:05,792 --> 02:21:09,000 that day by his handlers, to either prevent the assassination 3041 02:21:09,083 --> 02:21:10,333 or to take part in it. 3042 02:21:10,875 --> 02:21:12,083 I mean, they coulda told him anything, 3043 02:21:12,167 --> 02:21:14,042 either they were gonna close down the plotters 3044 02:21:14,125 --> 02:21:15,375 - that day, 3045 02:21:15,458 --> 02:21:19,333 or they were gonna simulate an attack on Kennedy to whip up public opinion 3046 02:21:19,417 --> 02:21:22,500 so that Kennedy would have to reverse his policies on communism. 3047 02:21:23,583 --> 02:21:25,750 It doesn't really matter what they told him. 3048 02:21:25,833 --> 02:21:27,667 - He was under orders. 3049 02:21:27,750 --> 02:21:29,167 He was a foot soldier. 3050 02:21:29,458 --> 02:21:30,708 - And, uh... 3051 02:21:32,292 --> 02:21:33,542 You can't miss. 3052 02:21:33,708 --> 02:21:35,375 He is a dead duck. 3053 02:21:36,208 --> 02:21:37,375 I don't buy it, chief. 3054 02:21:37,833 --> 02:21:40,000 Why would the FBI cover it up? 3055 02:21:40,292 --> 02:21:44,125 A telex that disappears from every single FBI office in this country? 3056 02:21:44,500 --> 02:21:45,750 There's a word, Bill. 3057 02:21:46,167 --> 02:21:46,917 Orders. 3058 02:21:47,000 --> 02:21:48,125 Or a cover up! 3059 02:21:48,208 --> 02:21:52,333 Jesus, Bill, don't you have enough proof of the FBI's complicity yet? 3060 02:21:52,417 --> 02:21:54,833 Maybe I have a little more respect for this country's institutions-- 3061 02:21:54,917 --> 02:21:56,042 - My God! - than you do, Susie! 3062 02:21:56,125 --> 02:21:57,417 How much more do you need? 3063 02:21:57,500 --> 02:22:00,292 You tell me how the hell you gonna keep a conspiracy going on between 3064 02:22:00,375 --> 02:22:03,625 the mob, the CIA, the FBI, and Army Intelligence, 3065 02:22:03,708 --> 02:22:05,417 and who the hell knows what else, 3066 02:22:05,500 --> 02:22:07,750 when you know for a fact you can't keep a secret in this room 3067 02:22:07,833 --> 02:22:09,042 between 12 people. 3068 02:22:09,583 --> 02:22:11,250 We got leaks everywhere! 3069 02:22:11,417 --> 02:22:14,458 I mean, we are going to trial here, y'all! 3070 02:22:14,542 --> 02:22:16,750 What the hell do we really got? 3071 02:22:16,833 --> 02:22:20,208 Oswald, Ruby, Banister, Ferrie are dead! 3072 02:22:20,542 --> 02:22:23,333 Shaw, I mean maybe he's an agent, I don't know, 3073 02:22:23,417 --> 02:22:26,917 but as a covert operator in my book he is wide open for blackmail 3074 02:22:27,000 --> 02:22:28,500 ‘cause of his homosexuality. 3075 02:22:28,583 --> 02:22:31,792 Shaw's our toehold, Bill. Now, I don't know exactly what he is or where he fits, 3076 02:22:31,875 --> 02:22:33,083 and I don't really care. 3077 02:22:33,292 --> 02:22:36,167 I do know he's lying through his teeth and I'm not gonna let go of him. 3078 02:22:36,250 --> 02:22:39,000 Yeah, and for those reasons, you're going to trial against Clay Shaw, chief? 3079 02:22:39,333 --> 02:22:40,917 Well, you're gonna lose! 3080 02:22:41,125 --> 02:22:44,167 We should be investigating our mafia leads here in New Orleans. 3081 02:22:44,250 --> 02:22:47,583 Now, I can buy that a hell of a lot easier than I can the government. 3082 02:22:48,542 --> 02:22:52,292 Ruby is all mob, knows Oswald, sets him up. 3083 02:22:52,750 --> 02:22:56,792 Hoffa, Trafficante, Marcello, they hire some guns to do Kennedy, 3084 02:22:57,083 --> 02:23:01,042 and the government doesn't want to open up a whole can of worms there because 3085 02:23:01,125 --> 02:23:03,667 it used the mob to try to get to Castro. 3086 02:23:04,333 --> 02:23:07,833 You know, Castro being assassinated by the mob, by us, 3087 02:23:07,917 --> 02:23:09,917 it sounds pretty wild to John Q. Citizen. 3088 02:23:10,083 --> 02:23:13,083 So they close the book on JFK. 3089 02:23:14,167 --> 02:23:15,625 Makes perfect sense to me. 3090 02:23:15,708 --> 02:23:18,292 I don't doubt their involvement, Bill, but at a low level. 3091 02:23:18,792 --> 02:23:20,042 - Oh, come on! - Could the mob 3092 02:23:20,125 --> 02:23:21,708 change the parade route, Bill? 3093 02:23:22,250 --> 02:23:24,792 Or eliminate the protection for the president? 3094 02:23:25,333 --> 02:23:28,292 Could the mob send Oswald to Russia and get him back? 3095 02:23:28,875 --> 02:23:31,583 Could the mob get the FBI, the CIA, and the Dallas police 3096 02:23:31,667 --> 02:23:33,125 to make a mess of the investigation? 3097 02:23:33,208 --> 02:23:36,583 I mean, could the mob get the Warren Commission appointed to cover it up? 3098 02:23:37,458 --> 02:23:38,917 Could the mob wreck the autopsy? 3099 02:23:39,000 --> 02:23:41,833 I mean, could the mob influence the national media to go to sleep? 3100 02:23:42,042 --> 02:23:45,750 And since when has the mob used anything but. 38s for hits up close? 3101 02:23:47,333 --> 02:23:50,750 The mob wouldn't have the guts or the power for something of this magnitude. 3102 02:23:51,792 --> 02:23:53,625 Assassins need payrolls, 3103 02:23:54,333 --> 02:23:56,250 schedules, times, orders. 3104 02:23:57,375 --> 02:24:00,000 This was a military-style ambush from start to finish. 3105 02:24:00,083 --> 02:24:03,458 This was a coup d'état with Lyndon Johnson waiting in the wings. 3106 02:24:03,542 --> 02:24:06,375 Oh, okay, so now you're saying Lyndon Johnson was involved? 3107 02:24:06,458 --> 02:24:08,292 - Huh? The President of the United States? - I know this, Bill. 3108 02:24:08,375 --> 02:24:11,750 Lyndon Johnson got one billion dollars for his Texas friends, Brown and Root, 3109 02:24:11,833 --> 02:24:14,458 to dredge Cam Ranh Bay for the military in Vietnam. 3110 02:24:14,542 --> 02:24:15,500 - That's just for openers. - Boss! 3111 02:24:15,583 --> 02:24:17,708 Are you calling the president a murderer? 3112 02:24:17,792 --> 02:24:20,958 If I'm so far from the truth, why is the FBI bugging our offices? 3113 02:24:21,083 --> 02:24:24,000 Huh? Why are our witnesses being bought off and murdered? 3114 02:24:24,500 --> 02:24:28,167 Why are federal agencies blocking our extraditions and subpoenas, 3115 02:24:28,250 --> 02:24:29,833 - when we were never blocked before? - I don't know! 3116 02:24:29,917 --> 02:24:33,167 I don't-- maybe there's some rogue element in the government or something. 3117 02:24:33,250 --> 02:24:34,750 - Oh, come on! - With a full-blown conspiracy 3118 02:24:34,833 --> 02:24:35,708 to cover it up? 3119 02:24:36,833 --> 02:24:38,875 You ever read your Shakespeare, Bill? 3120 02:24:40,250 --> 02:24:42,208 Yeah, I do. 3121 02:24:43,375 --> 02:24:44,583 Julius Caesar. 3122 02:24:45,625 --> 02:24:48,667 "Brutus and Cassius, they, too, are honorable men." 3123 02:24:49,708 --> 02:24:51,042 Who killed Caesar? 3124 02:24:52,125 --> 02:24:53,917 Ten, 12 senators. 3125 02:24:54,333 --> 02:24:56,958 All's it takes is one Judas, Bill. 3126 02:24:57,083 --> 02:24:59,000 A few people on the inside. 3127 02:24:59,083 --> 02:25:00,417 Pentagon, CIA-- 3128 02:25:00,500 --> 02:25:02,292 This is Louisiana, chief. 3129 02:25:02,708 --> 02:25:05,417 I mean, how the hell do you know who your daddy is? 3130 02:25:05,667 --> 02:25:08,167 - ‘Cause your mama told you so. 3131 02:25:08,250 --> 02:25:10,917 You are way out there taking a crap in the wind, boss, 3132 02:25:11,000 --> 02:25:14,542 and I, for one, am not going along on this one! 3133 02:25:23,833 --> 02:25:26,250 Chief, I've had my doubts all along about Bill. 3134 02:25:27,292 --> 02:25:28,917 Been fighting us all along. 3135 02:25:30,542 --> 02:25:32,125 Well, we need him back. 3136 02:25:32,208 --> 02:25:35,375 Boss, Broussard wasted a whole damn month trying to prove that mob boys, 3137 02:25:35,458 --> 02:25:38,500 like Jack Ruby and Brading, are hooked up with Hunt Oil. 3138 02:25:38,583 --> 02:25:39,542 I don't trust the guy. 3139 02:25:39,625 --> 02:25:43,542 I will not hear this, gentlemen. Now, I value Bill as much as any person here. 3140 02:25:45,125 --> 02:25:49,417 I think it's time we all made room for someone else's ideas, including me. 3141 02:25:50,417 --> 02:25:52,917 Maybe Oswald is what everyone says he is and I'm just... 3142 02:25:53,833 --> 02:25:55,417 I'm just plain dumb about it. 3143 02:25:56,042 --> 02:25:58,792 I've seen him copying files, leaving here late at night. 3144 02:25:58,875 --> 02:25:59,958 I just plain don't trust-- 3145 02:26:00,042 --> 02:26:01,292 Maybe you two didn't hear what I said. 3146 02:26:01,375 --> 02:26:04,208 Now, I said I will not tolerate infighting among the staff! 3147 02:26:04,292 --> 02:26:07,375 I'm afraid I cannot work with Bill Broussard anymore. 3148 02:26:08,750 --> 02:26:10,458 Are you giving me an ultimatum, Lou? 3149 02:26:10,792 --> 02:26:11,750 What? 3150 02:26:12,125 --> 02:26:13,833 - Are you giving me an ultimatum? 3151 02:26:13,917 --> 02:26:15,542 Well, if that's what you want to call it. 3152 02:26:18,375 --> 02:26:20,125 You know, I never thought it would come to this. 3153 02:26:24,167 --> 02:26:25,208 I guess I am. 3154 02:26:26,750 --> 02:26:29,375 Well, I will not have any damned ultimatums put to me, Lou. 3155 02:26:29,958 --> 02:26:31,583 I'll accept your resignation. 3156 02:26:35,375 --> 02:26:36,667 Well, you sure got it. 3157 02:26:42,292 --> 02:26:45,000 You are one stubborn son of a bitch. 3158 02:26:47,375 --> 02:26:48,875 And you're making a hell of a mistake. 3159 02:26:56,625 --> 02:26:59,167 Boss, aren't you being a little hard? 3160 02:27:00,583 --> 02:27:02,458 No, I don't think I am, Susie. 3161 02:27:03,875 --> 02:27:05,167 Anyone else? 3162 02:27:10,417 --> 02:27:13,458 And now, Jerry, here's Jim Garrison, 3163 02:27:13,625 --> 02:27:16,458 the District Attorney of New Orleans, Louisiana. 3164 02:27:31,292 --> 02:27:33,375 Welcome, District Attorney Garrison. 3165 02:27:33,667 --> 02:27:37,125 So, you're investigating the murder of President Kennedy. 3166 02:27:37,208 --> 02:27:40,458 You know, I must say, we have heard some strange things 3167 02:27:40,542 --> 02:27:42,333 coming out of your office in New Orleans. 3168 02:27:42,583 --> 02:27:46,250 First we heard that the Cuban exiles killed the president. 3169 02:27:46,333 --> 02:27:47,625 Then, the mob. 3170 02:27:47,958 --> 02:27:51,542 Now your latest theory seems to be that the CIA, 3171 02:27:51,625 --> 02:27:54,208 and the FBI, and the Pentagon, 3172 02:27:54,292 --> 02:27:55,583 and the White House, 3173 02:27:55,667 --> 02:27:59,708 all combined in some elaborate conspiracy to kill John Kennedy. 3174 02:27:59,833 --> 02:28:01,083 Let me ask you, 3175 02:28:01,167 --> 02:28:03,583 is there anyone besides Lee Harvey Oswald 3176 02:28:03,667 --> 02:28:06,250 who you think didn't conspire to kill the president? 3177 02:28:09,458 --> 02:28:11,292 Let's just say this, Jerry. 3178 02:28:12,208 --> 02:28:13,792 I've stopped beating my wife. 3179 02:28:16,000 --> 02:28:18,667 Maybe you should ask Lyndon Johnson. We know he has some answers. 3180 02:28:22,583 --> 02:28:26,292 Now, there have been a number of reports in reputable news media, 3181 02:28:26,667 --> 02:28:29,000 Time, Newsweek, our own NBC, 3182 02:28:29,375 --> 02:28:34,208 that you've gone way beyond the legal means available to a prosecutor, 3183 02:28:34,292 --> 02:28:37,333 that you've intimidated-- even drugged-- witnesses, 3184 02:28:37,417 --> 02:28:38,458 bribed them, 3185 02:28:38,542 --> 02:28:40,583 urged them to commit perjury. 3186 02:28:41,250 --> 02:28:42,500 Do you have a response to this? 3187 02:28:42,583 --> 02:28:45,583 Your faith in the veracity of the major media is touching, Jerry. 3188 02:28:46,083 --> 02:28:49,042 It indicates that the Age of Innocence is not yet over. 3189 02:28:49,125 --> 02:28:50,583 But ask yourself... 3190 02:28:50,667 --> 02:28:55,625 If we'd learned on November 22nd, 1963 that the Premier of Russia had been shot 3191 02:28:55,708 --> 02:28:58,958 from a Moscow office building by a lonely, capitalist sympathizer, 3192 02:28:59,042 --> 02:29:03,292 who, himself, was then liquidated by a patriotic Muscovite within 48 hours 3193 02:29:03,375 --> 02:29:05,125 while surrounded by armed police, 3194 02:29:05,208 --> 02:29:07,958 I think it would be pretty apparent to any free-thinking person 3195 02:29:08,042 --> 02:29:12,208 that a coup d'état and a transfer of power had just taken place in the Soviet Union. 3196 02:29:12,292 --> 02:29:14,500 - And we would not be asking questions 3197 02:29:14,583 --> 02:29:16,750 or attacking Jim Garrison or his record. 3198 02:29:16,833 --> 02:29:19,000 We would, in a free-thinking society, 3199 02:29:19,083 --> 02:29:21,625 be asking hard questions about why he was killed 3200 02:29:21,708 --> 02:29:23,458 and what forces were opposed to him. 3201 02:29:23,542 --> 02:29:27,208 Jim, you know, there are some people who might say you're paranoid. 3202 02:29:27,458 --> 02:29:29,000 Maybe I'd better show you some pictures, 3203 02:29:29,083 --> 02:29:32,500 so you can begin to understand what it is I'm talking about. 3204 02:29:34,208 --> 02:29:35,375 These are arrests. 3205 02:29:35,458 --> 02:29:37,958 Now, these arrests were photographed... 3206 02:29:38,542 --> 02:29:40,000 minutes after the assassination. 3207 02:29:40,083 --> 02:29:42,083 Now, they were never shown to the American public. 3208 02:29:42,167 --> 02:29:44,292 Jim, I'm sorry, these pictures can't show up on TV. 3209 02:29:44,375 --> 02:29:45,958 - Well, sure they can. - No, I'm sorry, they can't. 3210 02:29:46,333 --> 02:29:47,250 No, the-- 3211 02:29:47,583 --> 02:29:49,583 - The camera can pick these up. - Jim, I'm sorry. 3212 02:29:50,542 --> 02:29:53,875 They can't. We have libel laws, you know. 3213 02:29:53,958 --> 02:29:57,542 Those men you just saw were arrested in Dallas minutes after the assassination. 3214 02:29:57,625 --> 02:29:59,250 They were never seen again. 3215 02:29:59,375 --> 02:30:00,792 No record of arrest, 3216 02:30:01,083 --> 02:30:03,708 - no mugshot, no fingerprint. - Jim, hold that thought. 3217 02:30:03,792 --> 02:30:05,125 - We're gonna be back, - They got away-- 3218 02:30:05,208 --> 02:30:06,042 right after these commercials. 3219 02:30:06,125 --> 02:30:07,250 - Who were they? 3220 02:30:15,542 --> 02:30:16,292 Chief! 3221 02:30:18,000 --> 02:30:20,042 Bill, what the hell are you doing here? 3222 02:30:20,333 --> 02:30:21,792 I'm sorry about the other day, chief. 3223 02:30:21,875 --> 02:30:23,875 I didn't mean to walk out on you like that. 3224 02:30:25,375 --> 02:30:27,958 Bill, you came all the way to tell me the obvious? 3225 02:30:28,542 --> 02:30:29,875 No, boss, look. 3226 02:30:30,083 --> 02:30:32,542 I just got word there's gonna be an attempt to kill you 3227 02:30:32,625 --> 02:30:34,458 somewhere between here and New Orleans. 3228 02:30:34,792 --> 02:30:38,250 A mob guy was brought down by Shaw from Canada. 3229 02:30:38,417 --> 02:30:39,917 - This is serious, chief. 3230 02:30:40,000 --> 02:30:42,042 You're gonna need a bodyguard tonight in Phoenix. 3231 02:30:42,208 --> 02:30:43,292 Bill, when you were in the Army, 3232 02:30:43,375 --> 02:30:45,375 did you have a chance to find out what an order meant? 3233 02:30:45,792 --> 02:30:46,542 - Hmm? - Yes. 3234 02:30:46,625 --> 02:30:49,167 You happen to remember my ordering everyone on the staff not to participate 3235 02:30:49,250 --> 02:30:52,208 in passing on these endless rumors about how somebody is gonna be killed? 3236 02:30:52,292 --> 02:30:53,625 Yes, I do, boss, but this-- 3237 02:30:53,708 --> 02:30:54,792 No, there is no "but." 3238 02:30:54,875 --> 02:30:57,500 There is no "but" in a military situation, Broussard! 3239 02:30:58,000 --> 02:31:00,875 I don't appreciate your dumping this paranoid garbage on me. 3240 02:31:01,208 --> 02:31:03,583 And I don't appreciate your inability to follow a simple order, 3241 02:31:03,667 --> 02:31:06,708 especially when it means I'm personally gonna end up paying for your flight 3242 02:31:06,792 --> 02:31:07,708 back to New Orleans. 3243 02:31:09,042 --> 02:31:10,542 Let's get you a ticket. 3244 02:31:12,167 --> 02:31:13,208 Boss, I'm sorry. 3245 02:31:13,292 --> 02:31:15,167 - I'm just looking out for you. - Thank you. 3246 02:31:15,750 --> 02:31:16,917 Get a receipt. 3247 02:32:04,458 --> 02:32:06,125 Come on, come on. He's out of here. 3248 02:32:06,208 --> 02:32:07,750 Jim, where are you going? 3249 02:32:08,167 --> 02:32:09,667 It's me, Samuel. 3250 02:32:17,125 --> 02:32:17,917 Hey! 3251 02:32:18,000 --> 02:32:20,625 - How long were you in that restroom? - None of your goddamn business. 3252 02:33:11,250 --> 02:33:12,875 Jim, bad news, 3253 02:33:12,958 --> 02:33:14,042 Bill's turned. 3254 02:33:14,125 --> 02:33:16,625 I think he's given everything we've got to the feds. 3255 02:33:16,708 --> 02:33:19,167 We studied the memos and there was nothing there, chief. 3256 02:33:19,250 --> 02:33:20,167 Nothing. 3257 02:33:20,250 --> 02:33:23,667 We went to confront him and the landlady said the son of a bitch just took off. 3258 02:33:23,875 --> 02:33:25,750 - Left everything. 3259 02:33:25,833 --> 02:33:27,583 It's unbelievable. I'm sorry. 3260 02:33:27,667 --> 02:33:30,083 Mattie, could you get Mr. Garrison a drink, please? 3261 02:33:30,167 --> 02:33:32,000 - Something sure scared him. 3262 02:33:32,083 --> 02:33:35,542 Well, Bill doesn't scare that easy. Somebody got to his thinking. 3263 02:33:35,625 --> 02:33:37,333 He was never that good a thinker. 3264 02:33:37,417 --> 02:33:38,917 He sure fooled us. 3265 02:33:39,833 --> 02:33:41,708 No, no, Numa, don't turn it down. 3266 02:33:41,917 --> 02:33:44,000 - Turn it up, I want to see this. 3267 02:33:44,083 --> 02:33:46,250 Well, you know what's happening, he's winning. 3268 02:33:46,333 --> 02:33:48,875 Senator Eugene McCarthy of Minnesota. 3269 02:33:49,250 --> 02:33:50,542 He'll never make it. 3270 02:33:51,917 --> 02:33:53,750 If he wins, they'll kill him. 3271 02:33:54,167 --> 02:33:55,625 He'll stop the war. 3272 02:33:57,292 --> 02:33:59,500 They'll kill him before they let him be president. 3273 02:34:03,042 --> 02:34:04,458 Thank you, Mattie. 3274 02:34:04,542 --> 02:34:08,042 Boss, with Broussard, they have everything. 3275 02:34:08,250 --> 02:34:10,667 All our witnesses, our strategies for the trial. 3276 02:34:10,750 --> 02:34:12,542 We got to double check his work. 3277 02:34:12,625 --> 02:34:15,417 There could be false leads. We can't go to trial. 3278 02:34:15,792 --> 02:34:17,042 We don't have a prayer! 3279 02:34:17,125 --> 02:34:18,167 I don't think so, Al. 3280 02:34:18,250 --> 02:34:20,250 I have to agree with Al, boss. 3281 02:34:20,875 --> 02:34:23,250 This is not one we're gonna come out on. 3282 02:34:23,458 --> 02:34:26,292 You remember the Hemingway story, The Old Man and the Sea? 3283 02:34:27,625 --> 02:34:30,667 The old fisherman manages to catch this great fish, 3284 02:34:31,167 --> 02:34:33,750 a fish so huge that he has to tie it to the side of the boat 3285 02:34:33,833 --> 02:34:35,292 in order to get it back in. 3286 02:34:35,542 --> 02:34:37,292 But by the time it reached the shore, 3287 02:34:37,542 --> 02:34:40,417 the fish had long since been picked apart by sharks. 3288 02:34:44,292 --> 02:34:46,125 Nothing was left but the skeleton. 3289 02:34:46,208 --> 02:34:47,958 And that's what's gonna happen to us. 3290 02:34:48,042 --> 02:34:50,208 Then what'd we go to all this trouble for, boss? 3291 02:34:50,292 --> 02:34:51,625 It's a means to an end. 3292 02:34:52,375 --> 02:34:54,250 Now, this war has two fronts. 3293 02:34:55,667 --> 02:34:57,625 In a court of law, we hope, against the odds, 3294 02:34:57,708 --> 02:35:00,042 to nail Clay Shaw on a conspiracy charge. 3295 02:35:00,125 --> 02:35:04,167 In the court of public opinion, it could take another 25, 30 years 3296 02:35:04,250 --> 02:35:06,000 for the truth to come out. 3297 02:35:08,292 --> 02:35:10,417 But at least we're gonna strike the first blow. 3298 02:35:12,625 --> 02:35:14,250 What if you're wrong? 3299 02:35:18,458 --> 02:35:20,667 I never thought for a second I was, honey. 3300 02:35:20,833 --> 02:35:22,542 - Liz. 3301 02:35:24,667 --> 02:35:26,333 Will you come to the trial? 3302 02:35:28,125 --> 02:35:29,625 I don't think so. 3303 02:35:38,292 --> 02:35:40,000 - CBS News has projected 3304 02:35:40,083 --> 02:35:43,458 Senator Robert Kennedy the winner of the crucial California primary. 3305 02:35:43,542 --> 02:35:45,708 And that is what has been going on within the United States 3306 02:35:45,792 --> 02:35:47,542 over the period of the last three years 3307 02:35:47,958 --> 02:35:49,750 the division, the violence, 3308 02:35:50,375 --> 02:35:52,792 the disenchantment with our society, 3309 02:35:52,875 --> 02:35:54,917 the divisions, whether it's between blacks and whites, 3310 02:35:55,000 --> 02:35:56,833 between the poor and the more affluent, 3311 02:35:57,042 --> 02:35:59,625 or between age groups or on the war in Vietnam, 3312 02:35:59,708 --> 02:36:02,292 that we can start to work together. We are a great country, 3313 02:36:02,375 --> 02:36:05,125 an unselfish country, and a compassionate country. 3314 02:36:05,208 --> 02:36:08,167 And I intend to make that my basis for running... 3315 02:36:28,208 --> 02:36:29,917 Senator Kennedy has been shot! 3316 02:36:30,208 --> 02:36:33,917 We don't know how serious it is, but we do know Senator Kennedy has been shot! 3317 02:36:36,375 --> 02:36:38,792 Get the gun! Get the gun! 3318 02:36:40,292 --> 02:36:41,833 Stay away from the gun! 3319 02:37:13,542 --> 02:37:15,125 They killed him, honey. 3320 02:37:15,208 --> 02:37:16,667 Hmm? 3321 02:37:17,625 --> 02:37:21,125 He won, and they killed Robert Kennedy. 3322 02:37:22,208 --> 02:37:24,500 - No. - They shot him down. 3323 02:37:25,500 --> 02:37:28,500 Oh, my God. 3324 02:37:31,458 --> 02:37:33,458 Both of them? 3325 02:37:33,708 --> 02:37:35,958 Both brothers? 3326 02:37:40,500 --> 02:37:42,167 You were right. 3327 02:37:44,042 --> 02:37:45,500 It hasn't ended. 3328 02:37:53,500 --> 02:37:55,083 For the first time... 3329 02:37:57,125 --> 02:37:59,042 I feel really scared. 3330 02:38:11,667 --> 02:38:14,625 I wish I could've loved you more. 3331 02:38:16,833 --> 02:38:21,667 Sometimes I feel like I didn't ever love you 3332 02:38:22,458 --> 02:38:24,625 or the children enough. 3333 02:38:26,708 --> 02:38:29,208 I'm sorry. 3334 02:39:11,417 --> 02:39:12,917 Please rise. 3335 02:39:13,042 --> 02:39:14,958 Oyez, oyez, oyez! 3336 02:39:15,042 --> 02:39:18,417 The Criminal District Court for Orleans Parish, Section H, 3337 02:39:18,500 --> 02:39:19,833 is now in session. 3338 02:39:20,375 --> 02:39:23,292 Honorable Judge Edward A. Haggerty, Junior presiding. 3339 02:39:23,625 --> 02:39:24,792 Please be seated. 3340 02:39:29,833 --> 02:39:31,250 That's Clay Bertrand. 3341 02:39:31,333 --> 02:39:33,333 That's the man I saw at David Ferrie's. 3342 02:39:33,417 --> 02:39:35,417 That's who you say you saw, 3343 02:39:36,417 --> 02:39:38,417 a confessed homosexual, 3344 02:39:39,125 --> 02:39:42,000 convicted of pandering and solicitation, 3345 02:39:42,458 --> 02:39:44,958 a man who has lied about everything, 3346 02:39:45,333 --> 02:39:47,583 and now wants to be taken at his word. 3347 02:39:47,667 --> 02:39:50,750 It was that man right there. Yes, sir. 3348 02:39:50,917 --> 02:39:53,417 He was at the Pontchartrain wall, 3349 02:39:53,792 --> 02:39:56,042 with the man who shot the president. 3350 02:39:57,125 --> 02:40:00,000 I remember him ‘cause of his limp. 3351 02:40:00,083 --> 02:40:02,917 A heroin addict, injecting himself at the wall, 3352 02:40:03,000 --> 02:40:05,417 barely conscious of his surroundings. 3353 02:40:05,583 --> 02:40:06,750 Is that the man? 3354 02:40:06,917 --> 02:40:08,458 That was the man, right there. 3355 02:40:08,792 --> 02:40:11,042 He dropped Oswald off on the voters' line. 3356 02:40:11,417 --> 02:40:14,500 I remember ‘cause they were the only white strangers around that morning. 3357 02:40:14,583 --> 02:40:18,417 That big, black Cadillac of his made me think they might be FBI. 3358 02:40:21,917 --> 02:40:26,083 Said he was a representative of one International Trade Mart in New Orleans. 3359 02:40:26,375 --> 02:40:29,167 More than five years ago, for two minutes. 3360 02:40:29,583 --> 02:40:32,000 It's fair to say you could be mistaken. 3361 02:40:32,083 --> 02:40:34,208 It was just a figment of my imagination. 3362 02:40:34,292 --> 02:40:37,292 The cat's stewing you, the oyster's shucking you, I told him. 3363 02:40:37,375 --> 02:40:40,083 You got the right ta-ta, but the wrong ho-ho. 3364 02:40:41,083 --> 02:40:44,375 Bertrand is not Shaw, scout's honor, and you can tell him I said so. 3365 02:40:44,458 --> 02:40:46,000 Objection, your Honor. This office has won 3366 02:40:46,083 --> 02:40:49,208 a conviction of perjury against Dean Andrews on this matter. 3367 02:40:49,292 --> 02:40:51,500 Exception taken. That case is on appeal. 3368 02:40:52,708 --> 02:40:53,875 Mr. Goldberg, 3369 02:40:54,375 --> 02:40:57,375 you claim that you met David Ferrie and Clay Shaw on a vacation trip 3370 02:40:57,458 --> 02:40:59,542 from your accounting business in New York. 3371 02:40:59,625 --> 02:41:00,708 You had drinks... 3372 02:41:01,125 --> 02:41:04,375 and, under the influence, discussed killing Kennedy, is that not so? 3373 02:41:04,458 --> 02:41:05,542 Yes, I did. 3374 02:41:05,625 --> 02:41:07,917 Is it not also true that you fingerprinted your daughter 3375 02:41:08,000 --> 02:41:10,250 when she went to Louisiana State University? 3376 02:41:10,583 --> 02:41:11,625 Yes, sir, I did. 3377 02:41:11,833 --> 02:41:14,708 And is it not also true that you fingerprinted her when she returned 3378 02:41:14,792 --> 02:41:15,875 at the end of the semester? 3379 02:41:15,958 --> 02:41:17,250 Yes, I did. 3380 02:41:17,583 --> 02:41:18,500 Why? 3381 02:41:18,958 --> 02:41:22,208 Well, I wanted to make sure that she was the same girl I sent away. 3382 02:41:25,667 --> 02:41:28,000 He was one of Broussard's witnesses, chief. 3383 02:41:28,083 --> 02:41:30,292 He was totally sane when we took his affidavit. 3384 02:41:30,375 --> 02:41:34,333 Your Honor, we call police officer Aloysius Habighorst to the stand. 3385 02:41:35,000 --> 02:41:37,625 I'm going to have to ask the jury to leave the courtroom. 3386 02:41:37,708 --> 02:41:38,958 Gentlemen, will you please rise 3387 02:41:39,042 --> 02:41:40,000 - What? - and follow me? 3388 02:41:40,375 --> 02:41:41,958 Name. First, middle, and last. 3389 02:41:42,042 --> 02:41:43,625 Clay Lavergne Shaw. 3390 02:41:43,708 --> 02:41:45,792 The defendant did not have his lawyer present when asked! 3391 02:41:45,875 --> 02:41:48,125 Jesus, Ed, from time immemorial, it's been standard booking procedure 3392 02:41:48,208 --> 02:41:50,458 - to ask an alias, you know that! - I call ‘em as I see ‘em! 3393 02:41:50,542 --> 02:41:52,417 - Ever use any aliases? - Clay Bertrand. 3394 02:41:55,167 --> 02:41:57,583 There's no constitutional requirement that says a lawyer 3395 02:41:57,667 --> 02:41:59,333 - has to be present for routine questions! - I'm ruling it inadmissible! 3396 02:41:59,417 --> 02:42:02,375 - I'm ruling it inadmissible. - Well, hell, Ed, that's our case! 3397 02:42:02,792 --> 02:42:05,292 If that's your case, you didn't have a case. 3398 02:42:05,583 --> 02:42:08,667 I wouldn't believe anything Habighorst said, anyway. 3399 02:42:08,750 --> 02:42:10,583 I can't believe you're saying this in the courtroom. 3400 02:42:10,667 --> 02:42:13,167 Well, I am saying it. Bring in the jury. 3401 02:42:17,042 --> 02:42:18,083 Oswald? 3402 02:42:19,292 --> 02:42:20,042 No, I did not. 3403 02:42:20,458 --> 02:42:22,417 Ever called Dean Andrews? 3404 02:42:22,500 --> 02:42:23,875 No, I did not. 3405 02:42:25,083 --> 02:42:27,375 And have you ever met David Ferrie? 3406 02:42:27,458 --> 02:42:28,542 No. 3407 02:42:28,792 --> 02:42:30,000 Wouldn't even know what he looked like, 3408 02:42:30,083 --> 02:42:32,292 if it hadn't been for the pictures I'd been shown. 3409 02:42:33,792 --> 02:42:35,917 Did you ever use the alias Clay Bertrand? 3410 02:42:36,000 --> 02:42:36,875 No. 3411 02:42:37,375 --> 02:42:38,458 I did not. 3412 02:42:39,417 --> 02:42:41,083 Thank you, Mr. Shaw. 3413 02:42:44,500 --> 02:42:47,875 Well, a very great actor has just given us a great performance, Your Honor, 3414 02:42:47,958 --> 02:42:50,042 but we are nowhere closer to the truth. 3415 02:42:51,083 --> 02:42:53,958 Let it be noted that my office is charging Clay Shaw 3416 02:42:54,042 --> 02:42:57,750 with outright perjury on the 15 answers he has given in this courtroom today, 3417 02:42:57,833 --> 02:42:59,958 not one word of truth having escaped his lips-- 3418 02:43:00,083 --> 02:43:02,250 You're out of order, Jim Boy, now sit down! 3419 02:43:11,167 --> 02:43:14,292 To prove there was a conspiracy involving Clay Shaw, 3420 02:43:14,833 --> 02:43:17,167 we must first prove that there was more than one man 3421 02:43:17,250 --> 02:43:18,833 involved in the assassination. 3422 02:43:19,958 --> 02:43:21,208 To do that... 3423 02:43:21,292 --> 02:43:24,292 we must look at the Zapruder film, which my office has subpoenaed. 3424 02:43:25,500 --> 02:43:27,708 - The American public has not seen that-- 3425 02:43:29,833 --> 02:43:31,958 The American public has not seen that film 3426 02:43:32,042 --> 02:43:35,500 because it has been kept locked away in a vault for the last five years, 3427 02:43:35,750 --> 02:43:38,083 in the Time-Life Building in New York City. 3428 02:43:39,292 --> 02:43:40,750 There's a reason for that. 3429 02:43:42,375 --> 02:43:43,500 Watch. 3430 02:44:33,583 --> 02:44:35,792 Picture speaks a thousand words, doesn't it. 3431 02:44:37,750 --> 02:44:40,417 The Warren Commission thought they had an open-and-shut case. 3432 02:44:40,875 --> 02:44:42,542 Three bullets, one assassin. 3433 02:44:43,750 --> 02:44:47,417 But two unpredictable things happened that day that made it virtually impossible. 3434 02:44:47,500 --> 02:44:51,125 One, the eight-millimeter home movie taken by Abraham Zapruder 3435 02:44:51,208 --> 02:44:52,917 while standing near the grassy knoll. 3436 02:44:53,458 --> 02:44:54,250 And two, 3437 02:44:54,333 --> 02:44:56,208 the third wounded man, James Tague, 3438 02:44:56,292 --> 02:44:57,708 who was nicked by a fragment 3439 02:44:57,875 --> 02:45:00,083 while standing near the Triple Underpass. 3440 02:45:00,667 --> 02:45:04,375 The time frame of 5.6 seconds established by the Zapruder film, 3441 02:45:04,542 --> 02:45:07,167 left no possibility of a fourth shot. 3442 02:45:07,458 --> 02:45:09,167 So the shot or fragment 3443 02:45:09,250 --> 02:45:11,667 that left a superficial wound on Tague's cheek, 3444 02:45:12,000 --> 02:45:13,667 had to come from one of the three bullets 3445 02:45:13,750 --> 02:45:16,000 fired from the sixth floor of the depository. 3446 02:45:17,083 --> 02:45:18,583 That leaves just two bullets. 3447 02:45:19,458 --> 02:45:22,792 And we know one of them was the fatal head shot that killed Kennedy. 3448 02:45:24,792 --> 02:45:26,750 So, now, a single bullet remains. 3449 02:45:26,833 --> 02:45:29,583 A single bullet now has to account for the remaining 3450 02:45:29,667 --> 02:45:31,500 seven wounds in Kennedy and Connally. 3451 02:45:32,333 --> 02:45:35,500 But rather than admit to a conspiracy or investigate further, 3452 02:45:35,583 --> 02:45:38,750 the Warren Commission chose to endorse the theory put forth 3453 02:45:38,833 --> 02:45:41,542 by an ambitious junior counsellor, Arlen Specter, 3454 02:45:41,625 --> 02:45:45,375 one of the grossest lies ever forced on the American people. 3455 02:45:46,625 --> 02:45:49,250 We've come to know it as the "magic bullet" theory. 3456 02:45:49,875 --> 02:45:51,417 The magic bullet... 3457 02:45:51,500 --> 02:45:55,625 enters the President's back, headed downward at an angle of 17 degrees. 3458 02:45:56,333 --> 02:45:58,000 It then moves upward, 3459 02:45:58,083 --> 02:46:01,333 in order to leave Kennedy's body from the front of his neck, 3460 02:46:01,625 --> 02:46:02,917 wound number two, 3461 02:46:03,708 --> 02:46:06,292 where it waits 1.6 seconds, 3462 02:46:06,375 --> 02:46:09,042 presumably in midair, where it turns right, 3463 02:46:09,542 --> 02:46:10,583 then left, 3464 02:46:11,000 --> 02:46:13,333 right, then left, 3465 02:46:13,417 --> 02:46:16,875 and continues into Connally's body at the rear of his right armpit, 3466 02:46:17,042 --> 02:46:18,333 wound number three. 3467 02:46:19,000 --> 02:46:20,792 The bullet then heads downward, 3468 02:46:20,875 --> 02:46:24,417 at an angle of 27 degrees, shattering Connally's fifth rib, 3469 02:46:24,500 --> 02:46:26,917 and exiting from the right side of his chest, 3470 02:46:27,125 --> 02:46:28,333 wound number four. 3471 02:46:29,000 --> 02:46:30,667 The bullet then turns right, 3472 02:46:31,167 --> 02:46:34,083 and reenters Connally's body at his right wrist, 3473 02:46:34,333 --> 02:46:35,708 would number five. 3474 02:46:36,333 --> 02:46:38,167 Shattering the radius bone, 3475 02:46:38,417 --> 02:46:41,625 the bullet then exits Connally's wrist, wound number six, 3476 02:46:41,750 --> 02:46:43,792 makes a dramatic U-turn, 3477 02:46:43,875 --> 02:46:46,625 and buries itself into Connally's left thigh, 3478 02:46:46,708 --> 02:46:49,917 wound number seven, from which it later falls out, 3479 02:46:50,208 --> 02:46:52,875 and is found in almost "pristine" condition, 3480 02:46:53,375 --> 02:46:56,042 on a stretcher in a corridor of Parkland Hospital. 3481 02:46:59,042 --> 02:47:00,208 That's some bullet. 3482 02:47:02,125 --> 02:47:05,333 Anyone who's been in combat will tell you never in the history of gunfire 3483 02:47:05,417 --> 02:47:07,708 has there been a bullet this ridiculous. 3484 02:47:08,958 --> 02:47:10,958 Yet the government says it can prove it, 3485 02:47:11,042 --> 02:47:13,667 with some fancy physics in a nuclear laboratory. 3486 02:47:14,333 --> 02:47:15,625 Course they can. 3487 02:47:16,042 --> 02:47:19,292 Theoretical physics can prove that an elephant can hang from a cliff 3488 02:47:19,375 --> 02:47:21,167 with his tail tied to a daisy. 3489 02:47:22,542 --> 02:47:24,583 But use your eyes, your common sense. 3490 02:47:25,292 --> 02:47:28,125 The Army Wound Ballistics experts at Edgewood Arsenal 3491 02:47:28,208 --> 02:47:29,833 fired some comparison bullets. 3492 02:47:30,167 --> 02:47:32,500 Not one of them looked anything like this. 3493 02:47:34,208 --> 02:47:36,625 Take a look at CE 856, 3494 02:47:37,333 --> 02:47:41,542 an identical bullet fired through the wrist of a human cadaver. 3495 02:47:42,625 --> 02:47:45,625 Just one of the bones smashed by the magic bullet. 3496 02:47:46,667 --> 02:47:48,292 Seven wounds, gentlemen. 3497 02:47:48,667 --> 02:47:51,542 Tough skin, dense bones. 3498 02:47:53,208 --> 02:47:55,500 This single bullet explanation... 3499 02:47:55,583 --> 02:47:59,292 is the foundation of the Warren Commission's claim of a lone assassin. 3500 02:48:00,167 --> 02:48:01,417 And once you conclude 3501 02:48:01,500 --> 02:48:04,792 the magic bullet could not create all seven of those wounds, 3502 02:48:04,875 --> 02:48:07,833 you have to conclude that there was a fourth shot 3503 02:48:07,917 --> 02:48:09,208 and a second rifleman. 3504 02:48:10,792 --> 02:48:12,333 And if there was a second rifleman... 3505 02:48:13,333 --> 02:48:14,500 then, by definition, 3506 02:48:14,833 --> 02:48:16,958 - there had to be a conspiracy, 3507 02:48:17,042 --> 02:48:19,875 which we believe involves the accused Clay Shaw. 3508 02:48:20,958 --> 02:48:24,458 Fifty-one witnesses, gentlemen of the jury, thought they heard shots 3509 02:48:24,583 --> 02:48:26,417 coming from the grassy knoll, 3510 02:48:26,500 --> 02:48:29,458 which is to the right and front of the president. 3511 02:48:30,625 --> 02:48:32,250 Key witnesses that day, 3512 02:48:33,042 --> 02:48:35,583 Charles Brehm, a combat vet. 3513 02:48:35,958 --> 02:48:39,167 - Right behind, Jean Hill and Mary Moorman. - Hey, Mr. President! 3514 02:48:39,250 --> 02:48:43,625 S. M. Holland, Richard Dodd, James Simmons standing on the overpass. 3515 02:48:43,708 --> 02:48:46,792 J. C. Price, overlooking the whole Plaza. 3516 02:48:47,375 --> 02:48:51,375 William Newman, father of two children, who hit the deck 3517 02:48:51,458 --> 02:48:54,167 - on the north side of EIm. 3518 02:48:54,250 --> 02:48:55,917 Abraham Zapruder. 3519 02:49:12,583 --> 02:49:15,583 Each of these key witnesses has no doubt whatsoever 3520 02:49:15,667 --> 02:49:18,375 one or more shots came from behind the picket fence. 3521 02:49:19,917 --> 02:49:23,042 Twenty-six trained medical personnel at Parkland Hospital 3522 02:49:23,125 --> 02:49:25,875 saw, with their own eyes, the back of the president's head 3523 02:49:25,958 --> 02:49:27,250 blasted out! 3524 02:49:29,208 --> 02:49:30,292 Dr. Peters. 3525 02:49:31,667 --> 02:49:33,833 There was a large, seven-centimeter opening 3526 02:49:33,917 --> 02:49:36,208 in the right occipitoparietal area. 3527 02:49:36,292 --> 02:49:39,708 A considerable portion of the brain was missing there. 3528 02:49:40,625 --> 02:49:44,125 Almost a fifth or possibly a quarter of the back of the head 3529 02:49:44,208 --> 02:49:45,667 had been blasted out, 3530 02:49:45,750 --> 02:49:48,208 - along with the underlying brain tissue. - Father, what is the proper time to 3531 02:49:48,292 --> 02:49:50,958 declare one dead for the last rites? 3532 02:49:51,042 --> 02:49:53,000 There was also a large fragment of skull 3533 02:49:53,083 --> 02:49:55,167 attached to a flap of scalp. 3534 02:49:55,250 --> 02:49:59,458 The exit hole in the rear of his head measured about 120 millimeters, 3535 02:49:59,542 --> 02:50:01,250 or five inches across. 3536 02:50:01,333 --> 02:50:04,042 Not one of the civilian doctors who examined the president 3537 02:50:04,125 --> 02:50:05,417 at Parkland Hospital 3538 02:50:05,500 --> 02:50:08,583 regarded his throat wound as anything but a wound of entry. 3539 02:50:09,750 --> 02:50:13,042 But then the body was illegally moved to Washington for the autopsy. 3540 02:50:13,417 --> 02:50:15,208 Because when a coup d'état has occurred, 3541 02:50:15,292 --> 02:50:16,792 - Hold it! - there's a big difference... 3542 02:50:16,875 --> 02:50:18,875 - between an autopsy that is performed 3543 02:50:18,958 --> 02:50:20,125 - by civilian doctors, - You're not taking him! 3544 02:50:20,208 --> 02:50:22,875 and one that is performed by military doctors under order. 3545 02:50:24,958 --> 02:50:28,167 The departure of Air Force One from Love Field that Friday afternoon 3546 02:50:28,250 --> 02:50:31,375 was not so much a takeoff as it was a getaway 3547 02:50:31,458 --> 02:50:33,208 with the newly sworn in president. 3548 02:50:33,292 --> 02:50:34,625 Objection, Your Honor. 3549 02:50:34,708 --> 02:50:35,542 Sustained. 3550 02:50:35,625 --> 02:50:36,542 On the plane, of course, 3551 02:50:36,625 --> 02:50:38,583 Lee Harvey Oswald's guilt was announced 3552 02:50:38,667 --> 02:50:41,208 by the White House Situation Room to all passengers 3553 02:50:41,292 --> 02:50:44,042 before any kind of investigation had started, 3554 02:50:44,542 --> 02:50:47,208 the "angry, lone nut" solution beginning to take its shape. 3555 02:50:47,292 --> 02:50:48,958 Objection, Your Honor! 3556 02:50:49,042 --> 02:50:50,125 Sustained. 3557 02:50:50,375 --> 02:50:53,792 Mr. Garrison, will you please bottle the acid! 3558 02:50:55,833 --> 02:50:57,958 The three Bethesda Naval Hospital doctors 3559 02:50:58,042 --> 02:51:00,667 picked by the military left something to be desired 3560 02:51:00,750 --> 02:51:04,417 insomuch as none of them had any experience with combat gunfire wounds. 3561 02:51:04,750 --> 02:51:07,583 Through their autopsy, we've been able to justify eight wounds 3562 02:51:07,667 --> 02:51:08,958 - from just two bullets. 3563 02:51:09,500 --> 02:51:11,458 Three to Kennedy, five to Connally, 3564 02:51:11,917 --> 02:51:14,292 - Look what I found on the floor. - one of them being the magic bullet. 3565 02:51:14,375 --> 02:51:15,917 - FBI? - Here. 3566 02:51:16,000 --> 02:51:19,667 Colonel Finck, are you saying someone told you not to dissect the neck? 3567 02:51:20,125 --> 02:51:22,792 I was told that the family wanted the examination of the head. 3568 02:51:23,833 --> 02:51:25,042 Oh, Christ. 3569 02:51:25,125 --> 02:51:26,917 Looks like half his brain is gone. 3570 02:51:27,000 --> 02:51:27,917 Let's weigh it. 3571 02:51:28,000 --> 02:51:29,583 653 grams. 3572 02:51:29,667 --> 02:51:31,875 As a pathologist, it was your obligation 3573 02:51:31,958 --> 02:51:34,625 to explore all possible causes of death, was it not? 3574 02:51:34,750 --> 02:51:36,167 I had the cause of death. 3575 02:51:36,250 --> 02:51:39,958 Your Honor, I would ask you to direct the witness to answer my question. 3576 02:51:40,708 --> 02:51:43,667 Why did Colonel Finck not dissect the track of the bullet wound? 3577 02:51:43,750 --> 02:51:46,292 - Obvious tracheotomy... - Well, I heard Dr. Humes stating that... 3578 02:51:46,417 --> 02:51:50,000 That's enough, that's enough. It's duly noted. 3579 02:51:50,375 --> 02:51:51,792 Okay, let's check the back, gentlemen. 3580 02:51:51,875 --> 02:51:53,042 All right. 3581 02:51:54,583 --> 02:51:57,458 There's a considerable amount of spinal fluid coming out of his right ear. 3582 02:51:59,792 --> 02:52:02,125 I can feel the end of the wound with my finger. 3583 02:52:02,208 --> 02:52:04,125 That won't be necessary, Commander. 3584 02:52:06,958 --> 02:52:08,917 - Watch the ear, watch the ear. - Yes, sir. 3585 02:52:09,708 --> 02:52:12,292 Shot in the back. Cheap crime. 3586 02:52:12,458 --> 02:52:15,292 - He said... - Who's in charge, here? 3587 02:52:15,833 --> 02:52:16,958 I am. 3588 02:52:18,208 --> 02:52:19,667 I don't remember his name. 3589 02:52:20,250 --> 02:52:22,292 You must understand it was quite crowded. 3590 02:52:22,375 --> 02:52:24,167 And when you are called, in circumstances like that, 3591 02:52:24,250 --> 02:52:26,167 to look at the wound of the president, who is dead, 3592 02:52:26,250 --> 02:52:29,167 you don't look around a lot to ask people for their names and who they are. 3593 02:52:29,292 --> 02:52:31,083 But you were a qualified pathologist. 3594 02:52:31,167 --> 02:52:33,708 Was this Army general a qualified pathologist? 3595 02:52:33,792 --> 02:52:35,750 - No. 3596 02:52:35,833 --> 02:52:37,708 No, but you took his orders? 3597 02:52:37,792 --> 02:52:38,708 Yes. 3598 02:52:38,792 --> 02:52:40,958 - So he was directing the autopsy? - No. 3599 02:52:41,042 --> 02:52:43,000 - No? - No, no, because there were others. 3600 02:52:43,125 --> 02:52:44,292 There were others? 3601 02:52:44,375 --> 02:52:46,375 There were others. There were admirals. 3602 02:52:46,625 --> 02:52:48,125 - Oh, there were admirals. - Oh, yes. 3603 02:52:48,208 --> 02:52:51,167 And when you are a lieutenant colonel in the Army, you just follow orders. 3604 02:52:51,292 --> 02:52:56,083 It is not our business to discuss this with anyone outside this room. 3605 02:52:56,167 --> 02:52:59,167 As I recall it was Admiral Kenney, the surgeon general of the Navy. 3606 02:52:59,250 --> 02:53:02,250 We were specifically told not to discuss the case. 3607 02:53:05,292 --> 02:53:08,750 A lot of people that day were deciding what was private, 3608 02:53:08,833 --> 02:53:11,083 none of the American people's business. 3609 02:53:11,708 --> 02:53:13,750 The chief pathologist, Commander Humes, 3610 02:53:13,833 --> 02:53:17,125 by his own admission voluntarily burned his autopsy notes. 3611 02:53:17,833 --> 02:53:20,417 President Johnson orders the blood-soaked limousine, 3612 02:53:20,500 --> 02:53:22,042 filled with bullet holes and clues, 3613 02:53:22,125 --> 02:53:24,292 to be immediately washed and rebuilt. 3614 02:53:24,375 --> 02:53:27,583 He sends John Connally's bloody suit right to the cleaners, 3615 02:53:28,375 --> 02:53:32,583 The Justice Department denied this office access to the autopsy photos. 3616 02:53:33,542 --> 02:53:35,000 And when we finally get a court order 3617 02:53:35,083 --> 02:53:38,250 to examine President Kennedy's brain in the National Archives, 3618 02:53:38,333 --> 02:53:41,583 in the hopes of finding from which direction the bullet came from, 3619 02:53:41,917 --> 02:53:43,917 we're told by the government... 3620 02:53:44,000 --> 02:53:45,417 your government... 3621 02:53:45,500 --> 02:53:48,250 that the president's brain has disappeared. 3622 02:53:51,542 --> 02:53:53,042 That's not all that's disappeared, gentlemen. 3623 02:53:53,125 --> 02:53:55,292 With it, I think, the concept of justice. 3624 02:53:55,375 --> 02:53:56,667 Objection, Your Honor! 3625 02:53:56,750 --> 02:53:59,708 Not only has Mr. Garrison insulted the federal government, 3626 02:53:59,792 --> 02:54:02,792 - but he is also introducing-- - Overruled! Overruled! 3627 02:54:09,000 --> 02:54:11,167 So what really happened that day? 3628 02:54:11,708 --> 02:54:14,417 Let's just for a moment speculate, shall we? 3629 02:54:14,875 --> 02:54:17,833 We have the epileptic seizure around 12:15 p.m. 3630 02:54:17,917 --> 02:54:19,083 distracting the police, 3631 02:54:19,167 --> 02:54:22,000 making it easier for the shooters to move into their places. 3632 02:54:22,708 --> 02:54:24,708 The epileptic later vanished, 3633 02:54:24,792 --> 02:54:27,083 - never checking into the hospital. 3634 02:54:27,958 --> 02:54:30,708 The A Team gets on the sixth floor of the depository. 3635 02:54:31,292 --> 02:54:33,958 Now, they were refurbishing the floors in the depository that week, 3636 02:54:34,042 --> 02:54:36,917 which allowed unknown workmen in and out of the building. 3637 02:54:38,167 --> 02:54:41,417 They move quickly into position, just minutes before the shooting. 3638 02:54:41,917 --> 02:54:44,750 The second spotter on the radio talking to the two other teams 3639 02:54:44,833 --> 02:54:48,292 has the best overall view, "the God spot.” 3640 02:54:48,375 --> 02:54:49,792 - B Team, 3641 02:54:49,875 --> 02:54:53,708 one rifleman and one spotter with a headset and access to the building, 3642 02:54:53,792 --> 02:54:56,333 moves into the low floor of the Dal-Tex Building. 3643 02:54:57,750 --> 02:55:01,375 The third team, the C Team, moves in behind the picket fence 3644 02:55:01,458 --> 02:55:02,708 above the grassy knoll, 3645 02:55:02,792 --> 02:55:06,000 where the shooter and the spotter are first seen by the late Lee Bowers 3646 02:55:06,083 --> 02:55:07,750 in the watchtower of the railyard. 3647 02:55:08,208 --> 02:55:10,333 - They have the best position of all. 3648 02:55:10,708 --> 02:55:14,167 Kennedy is close and on a flat, low trajectory. 3649 02:55:14,625 --> 02:55:16,542 Part of this team is a coordinator, 3650 02:55:16,625 --> 02:55:19,167 who's flashed security credentials at several people, 3651 02:55:19,250 --> 02:55:21,875 - chasing them out of the parking lot area. 3652 02:55:21,958 --> 02:55:26,250 Probably two to three more men are down in the crowd on Elm. 3653 02:55:26,333 --> 02:55:30,333 Ten to 12 men, three teams, three shooters. 3654 02:55:30,417 --> 02:55:34,792 The triangulation of fire Clay Shaw and David Ferrie discussed two months before. 3655 02:55:35,333 --> 02:55:37,875 - They've walked the Plaza. 3656 02:55:37,958 --> 02:55:39,875 They know every inch. 3657 02:55:41,750 --> 02:55:45,667 They've calibrated their sights, they've practiced on moving targets. 3658 02:55:46,583 --> 02:55:48,083 They're ready. 3659 02:55:48,833 --> 02:55:52,167 Kennedy's motorcade makes a turn from Main onto Houston. 3660 02:55:52,875 --> 02:55:55,833 - It's gonna be a turkey shoot. 3661 02:55:56,708 --> 02:55:58,750 - They don't shoot him coming up Houston, 3662 02:55:58,833 --> 02:56:02,583 which is the easiest shot for a single shooter in the book depository! 3663 02:56:02,708 --> 02:56:03,875 They wait. 3664 02:56:03,958 --> 02:56:07,208 They wait till he gets to the killing zone between three rifles. 3665 02:56:07,708 --> 02:56:11,583 Kennedy makes the final turn from Houston onto EIm, 3666 02:56:11,667 --> 02:56:12,583 - slowing down... 3667 02:56:12,667 --> 02:56:15,542 - to some 11 miles an hour. 3668 02:56:15,625 --> 02:56:19,625 The shooters across Dealey Plaza tighten, taking their aim, 3669 02:56:21,208 --> 02:56:23,333 waiting for the radio to say, 3670 02:56:23,417 --> 02:56:25,167 "green, green!" 3671 02:56:25,250 --> 02:56:27,625 or "abort, abort!" 3672 02:56:33,875 --> 02:56:35,500 The first shot rings out. 3673 02:56:36,833 --> 02:56:39,792 Sounding like a backfire, it misses the car completely. 3674 02:56:40,208 --> 02:56:43,875 Frame 161, Kennedy stops waving as he hears something. 3675 02:56:43,958 --> 02:56:46,542 Connally's head turns slightly to the right. 3676 02:56:46,917 --> 02:56:51,083 Frame 193, the second shot hits Kennedy in the throat from the front. 3677 02:56:51,167 --> 02:56:52,708 - Frame 225, 3678 02:56:52,792 --> 02:56:55,250 the president emerging from behind the road sign. 3679 02:56:55,333 --> 02:56:58,792 You can see that he's obviously been hit, raising his arms to his throat. 3680 02:56:59,125 --> 02:57:01,708 - The third shot, frame 232, 3681 02:57:01,792 --> 02:57:05,333 hits Kennedy in the back, pulling him downward and forward. 3682 02:57:05,750 --> 02:57:08,958 Connally, you will notice, shows no signs at all of being hit. 3683 02:57:09,042 --> 02:57:10,750 He is visibly holding his Stetson, 3684 02:57:10,833 --> 02:57:13,125 which is impossible if his wrist has been shattered. 3685 02:57:13,250 --> 02:57:15,042 Connally is turning here now. 3686 02:57:15,208 --> 02:57:17,708 Frame 238, the fourth shot. 3687 02:57:17,792 --> 02:57:19,000 It misses Kennedy, 3688 02:57:19,083 --> 02:57:21,208 - and takes Connally in the back. 3689 02:57:21,375 --> 02:57:24,083 This is the shot that proves there were two rifles. 3690 02:57:24,292 --> 02:57:27,583 Connally yells out, "My God, they're going to kill us all!" 3691 02:57:27,875 --> 02:57:31,375 Somewhere around this time now, another shot that misses the car completely 3692 02:57:31,458 --> 02:57:32,708 - strikes James Tague 3693 02:57:32,792 --> 02:57:34,417 down by the underpass. 3694 02:57:34,500 --> 02:57:36,458 - The car brakes. 3695 02:57:36,542 --> 02:57:38,250 The sixth and fatal shot, 3696 02:57:38,333 --> 02:57:41,875 frame 313, takes Kennedy in the head from the front. 3697 02:57:43,625 --> 02:57:45,708 - This is the key shot. 3698 02:57:45,792 --> 02:57:48,625 The president going back and to his left, 3699 02:57:49,042 --> 02:57:51,042 shot from the front and right, 3700 02:57:52,042 --> 02:57:54,958 totally inconsistent with the shot from the depository. 3701 02:57:55,042 --> 02:57:59,333 - Again, back and to the left. 3702 02:58:00,500 --> 02:58:02,792 Back... and to the left. 3703 02:58:03,958 --> 02:58:06,167 Back... and to the left. 3704 02:58:07,083 --> 02:58:09,625 Back... and to the left. 3705 02:58:11,333 --> 02:58:12,833 So what happens then? 3706 02:58:15,500 --> 02:58:16,875 Pandemonium. 3707 02:58:19,500 --> 02:58:21,875 - Get the hell out of here... 3708 02:58:26,875 --> 02:58:29,792 The shooters quickly disassemble their various weapons, 3709 02:58:30,000 --> 02:58:32,000 all except the Oswald rifle. 3710 02:58:42,958 --> 02:58:46,917 Patrolman Joe Smith rushes into the parking lot behind the picket fence. 3711 02:58:47,000 --> 02:58:48,208 - He smells gunpowder. 3712 02:58:48,292 --> 02:58:50,792 The character produced credentials from his pocket 3713 02:58:50,875 --> 02:58:52,667 - that showed him to be Secret Service. 3714 02:58:53,417 --> 02:58:54,708 Let's see your ID. 3715 02:58:55,083 --> 02:58:56,583 - You see anybody else up here? - No. 3716 02:58:56,667 --> 02:58:57,458 Keep looking! 3717 02:58:57,542 --> 02:58:59,167 So I accepted that, and let him go 3718 02:58:59,250 --> 02:59:00,500 and continued to search. 3719 02:59:00,583 --> 02:59:03,583 But I regretted it, ‘cause this guy looked like an auto mechanic. 3720 02:59:04,542 --> 02:59:06,833 He had on a sports shirt and pants, 3721 02:59:06,917 --> 02:59:08,708 but he had dirty fingernails. 3722 02:59:10,375 --> 02:59:13,375 Afterwards it didn't ring true, but at the time... 3723 02:59:13,458 --> 02:59:15,417 we were so pressed for time. 3724 02:59:16,417 --> 02:59:19,667 Yet all Secret Servicemen in Dallas that day are accounted for. 3725 02:59:20,292 --> 02:59:23,125 None were on foot in Dealey Plaza before or after the shooting, 3726 02:59:23,208 --> 02:59:27,542 till Dallas Secret Service Chief Forrest Sorrels returned at 12:55. 3727 02:59:28,292 --> 02:59:31,917 At least 12 other individuals were taken into custody by Dallas police. 3728 02:59:32,917 --> 02:59:34,500 No record of their arrests. 3729 02:59:34,708 --> 02:59:38,417 Men acting like hoboes were being pulled off trains, 3730 02:59:38,500 --> 02:59:41,000 marched through Dealey Plaza, photographed, 3731 02:59:41,083 --> 02:59:43,208 and yet there is no record for their arrests. 3732 02:59:43,417 --> 02:59:45,917 Men identifying themselves as Secret Service agents 3733 02:59:46,000 --> 02:59:47,542 were all over the place! 3734 02:59:48,083 --> 02:59:50,000 But who was impersonating them? 3735 02:59:50,417 --> 02:59:52,250 And where was Lee Harvey Oswald? 3736 02:59:52,708 --> 02:59:54,167 Around 12:15, 3737 02:59:54,250 --> 02:59:56,542 on her way out of the building to see the motorcade, 3738 02:59:56,625 --> 03:00:00,167 secretary Carolyn Arnold sees Oswald in the second floor snack room, 3739 03:00:00,250 --> 03:00:02,625 where he said he went for a Coke. 3740 03:00:03,083 --> 03:00:05,875 He was in a booth on the right side of the room. 3741 03:00:05,958 --> 03:00:06,708 Um... 3742 03:00:06,792 --> 03:00:08,458 He was by himself, as usual, 3743 03:00:08,542 --> 03:00:10,458 and appeared to be having his lunch. 3744 03:00:10,833 --> 03:00:13,667 I didn't speak to him, but I recognized him clearly. 3745 03:00:14,167 --> 03:00:16,250 At the same time, Bonnie Ray Williams 3746 03:00:16,333 --> 03:00:18,000 is supposedly eating his chicken lunch 3747 03:00:18,083 --> 03:00:19,250 on the sixth floor. 3748 03:00:19,333 --> 03:00:22,375 He's there until 12:15, maybe 12:20. 3749 03:00:23,000 --> 03:00:24,458 He sees nobody. 3750 03:00:25,083 --> 03:00:27,125 Arnold Rowland's down on the street, he's looking up, 3751 03:00:27,208 --> 03:00:29,708 he sees two men in the sixth floor window, 3752 03:00:29,958 --> 03:00:33,417 presumably after Bonnie Ray Williams had finished his lunch and left. 3753 03:00:33,500 --> 03:00:34,833 - John Powell, 3754 03:00:34,917 --> 03:00:37,708 a prisoner on the sixth floor of the Dallas county jail, sees them. 3755 03:00:37,792 --> 03:00:39,375 Quite a few of us guys saw them. 3756 03:00:39,458 --> 03:00:41,583 Everybody was hollering and yelling and all that. 3757 03:00:41,667 --> 03:00:43,500 - We thought they was security guys. 3758 03:00:44,000 --> 03:00:45,458 If Oswald was the assassin, 3759 03:00:45,542 --> 03:00:48,917 he was certainly pretty nonchalant about moving himself into position. 3760 03:00:49,292 --> 03:00:52,792 Later, he told Dallas police he was in the second-floor snack room. 3761 03:00:53,125 --> 03:00:56,375 Probably told to wait there by his handler for a phone call. 3762 03:00:58,083 --> 03:00:59,750 But the phone call never came. 3763 03:01:00,583 --> 03:01:03,167 A maximum 90 seconds after Kennedy is shot, 3764 03:01:03,333 --> 03:01:05,417 patrolman Marrion Baker runs into Oswald 3765 03:01:05,500 --> 03:01:06,792 in that second-floor lunchroom. 3766 03:01:07,208 --> 03:01:08,333 Hey, you! 3767 03:01:08,750 --> 03:01:10,417 Do you know this man? Is he an employee? 3768 03:01:10,542 --> 03:01:11,708 Yes, he is. 3769 03:01:11,792 --> 03:01:13,333 The president's been shot! 3770 03:01:13,500 --> 03:01:15,375 But what the Warren Commission would have us believe 3771 03:01:15,458 --> 03:01:19,125 is that after firing three bolt-action shots in 5.6 seconds, 3772 03:01:19,458 --> 03:01:23,500 Oswald then leaves three cartridges neatly side by side in the firing nest, 3773 03:01:24,125 --> 03:01:25,958 wipes the rifle clear of fingerprints, 3774 03:01:26,042 --> 03:01:29,167 stashes the rifle on the other side of the loft, 3775 03:01:29,917 --> 03:01:32,083 sprints down five flights of stairs, 3776 03:01:32,167 --> 03:01:34,542 past witnesses Victoria Adams and Sandra Styles, 3777 03:01:34,625 --> 03:01:35,792 who never see him, 3778 03:01:36,625 --> 03:01:38,042 then shows up, cool and calm, 3779 03:01:38,125 --> 03:01:40,458 on the second floor in front of Patrolman Baker. 3780 03:01:42,417 --> 03:01:45,208 All this within a maximum of 90 seconds of the shooting. 3781 03:01:45,292 --> 03:01:46,250 Hey, you! 3782 03:01:46,333 --> 03:01:48,375 Do you know this man? Is he an employee? 3783 03:01:48,458 --> 03:01:50,667 Yes, he is. The president's been shot! 3784 03:01:50,750 --> 03:01:52,083 Is he out of breath? 3785 03:01:52,750 --> 03:01:55,167 According to Baker, absolutely not. 3786 03:01:55,833 --> 03:01:57,958 Assuming he is the sole assassin, 3787 03:01:58,042 --> 03:02:01,000 Oswald is now free to escape from the building. 3788 03:02:01,083 --> 03:02:05,375 The longer he delays, the more chance the building will be sealed by police. 3789 03:02:06,375 --> 03:02:07,292 Is he guilty? 3790 03:02:07,375 --> 03:02:10,000 Does he walk out the nearest staircase? 3791 03:02:10,708 --> 03:02:13,458 No, he buys a Coke. 3792 03:02:13,792 --> 03:02:15,708 And at a slow pace, 3793 03:02:15,792 --> 03:02:18,500 spotted by Mrs. Reid on the second floor, 3794 03:02:18,583 --> 03:02:21,042 he strolls out the more distant front exit, 3795 03:02:21,125 --> 03:02:22,833 - where the cops have gathered. 3796 03:02:22,917 --> 03:02:25,958 Oddly, considering that three shots have been fired from there, 3797 03:02:26,042 --> 03:02:29,208 nobody seals the book depository for 10 more minutes. 3798 03:02:29,417 --> 03:02:32,250 Oswald slips out, as do several other employees. 3799 03:02:32,667 --> 03:02:35,292 Of course, when he realized something had gone wrong 3800 03:02:35,375 --> 03:02:36,833 and the president had been killed, 3801 03:02:37,250 --> 03:02:38,833 he knew there was a problem. 3802 03:02:39,583 --> 03:02:41,625 He may even have known he was the patsy. 3803 03:02:41,708 --> 03:02:43,125 An intuition, maybe. 3804 03:02:43,208 --> 03:02:45,875 The president killed, in spite of his warning. 3805 03:02:45,958 --> 03:02:47,875 The phone call that never came. 3806 03:02:47,958 --> 03:02:51,542 Perhaps, fear now came to Oswald for the very first time. 3807 03:02:52,875 --> 03:02:56,167 So Oswald returns to his rooming house around 1 p.m., 3808 03:02:56,250 --> 03:02:58,542 - a half hour after the assassination. 3809 03:02:58,625 --> 03:03:00,708 - A man shot the president! 3810 03:03:00,792 --> 03:03:03,667 He puts on his jacket, grabs his .38 revolver, 3811 03:03:03,833 --> 03:03:05,750 - and leaves at 1:04. 3812 03:03:06,292 --> 03:03:07,708 - Earlene Roberts, the housekeeper, 3813 03:03:07,792 --> 03:03:11,125 says she heard two beeps on a car horn, that two uniformed cops 3814 03:03:11,208 --> 03:03:13,125 pulled up to the house where Oswald was in his room, 3815 03:03:13,208 --> 03:03:14,917 like it was a signal or something. 3816 03:03:15,875 --> 03:03:18,208 Officer Tippit is shot between 1:10 3817 03:03:18,292 --> 03:03:20,458 and 1:15, about a mile away. 3818 03:03:20,542 --> 03:03:23,167 And though no one actually saw him walking or jogging, 3819 03:03:23,250 --> 03:03:26,000 the government says Oswald covered that distance. 3820 03:03:26,083 --> 03:03:27,375 Now, giving the government 3821 03:03:27,458 --> 03:03:28,667 - the benefit of the doubt, - Sir? 3822 03:03:28,750 --> 03:03:30,167 - Excuse me, sir? - Oswald would have had to jog 3823 03:03:30,250 --> 03:03:31,875 a mile in six to 11 minutes 3824 03:03:31,958 --> 03:03:33,375 - and then commit the murder, 3825 03:03:33,458 --> 03:03:34,792 then reverse his direction 3826 03:03:34,875 --> 03:03:37,792 and walk three-fifths of a mile to the Texas Theatre 3827 03:03:37,875 --> 03:03:40,542 and arrive sometime before 1:30. 3828 03:03:45,917 --> 03:03:48,583 It's also a useful conclusion, after all. 3829 03:03:48,667 --> 03:03:50,375 Why else would Oswald kill Tippit? 3830 03:03:50,458 --> 03:03:52,125 Unless he'd just shot the president, 3831 03:03:52,208 --> 03:03:54,125 - and feared arrest? 3832 03:03:54,208 --> 03:03:55,458 Domingo Benavides, 3833 03:03:57,625 --> 03:03:59,375 - the closest witness to the shooting, 3834 03:03:59,833 --> 03:04:03,750 refused to identify Oswald as the killer and was never taken to a lineup. 3835 03:04:05,208 --> 03:04:07,583 Acquilla Clemons saw the killer with another man, 3836 03:04:07,792 --> 03:04:10,042 and says they went off in separate directions. 3837 03:04:10,125 --> 03:04:13,917 Mrs. Clemons was never taken to a lineup or to the Warren Commission. 3838 03:04:14,458 --> 03:04:15,542 At the scene of the crime, 3839 03:04:15,625 --> 03:04:18,458 Officer J. M. Poe marks the shells with his initials 3840 03:04:18,542 --> 03:04:21,208 - to record the chain of evidence. 3841 03:04:21,375 --> 03:04:24,333 Those initials are not on the three cartridge cases, 3842 03:04:24,417 --> 03:04:26,458 which the Warren Commission present to him. 3843 03:04:26,875 --> 03:04:31,167 As early as 12:44, only 14 minutes after the assassination, 3844 03:04:31,417 --> 03:04:34,583 the police radio put out a description matching Oswald's size 3845 03:04:34,667 --> 03:04:36,125 - and build. 3846 03:04:36,208 --> 03:04:39,250 Oswald is next seen by a shoe salesman, Johnny Brewer, 3847 03:04:39,333 --> 03:04:41,375 lurking along Jefferson Avenue. 3848 03:04:41,917 --> 03:04:43,167 Oswald is scared. 3849 03:04:43,250 --> 03:04:46,375 He begins to realize the full implications of this thing. 3850 03:04:46,750 --> 03:04:50,750 He goes into the Texas Theatre, possibly his prearranged meeting point, 3851 03:04:50,833 --> 03:04:53,042 but though he has 14 dollars in his pocket, 3852 03:04:53,375 --> 03:04:55,625 he does not buy the 75-cent ticket. 3853 03:04:55,750 --> 03:04:58,125 And Brewer has the cashier call the police. 3854 03:04:58,208 --> 03:05:00,750 - In response to the cashier's call, 3855 03:05:00,833 --> 03:05:03,583 at least 30 officers in a fleet of patrol cars 3856 03:05:03,667 --> 03:05:05,458 descend on the movie theater. 3857 03:05:05,583 --> 03:05:09,125 Now, this has to be the most remarkable example of police intuition 3858 03:05:09,208 --> 03:05:11,125 - since the Reichstag fire. 3859 03:05:11,208 --> 03:05:14,458 - And I don't buy it. They knew. 3860 03:05:14,542 --> 03:05:17,000 Someone knew Oswald was going to be there. 3861 03:05:18,208 --> 03:05:20,333 Brewer helpfully leads the cops into the theater 3862 03:05:20,417 --> 03:05:22,708 and from the stage points Oswald out. 3863 03:05:22,792 --> 03:05:23,667 There he is. 3864 03:05:35,958 --> 03:05:37,667 Sir, can I get you to stand up, please? 3865 03:05:38,042 --> 03:05:39,625 - This is it! 3866 03:05:41,542 --> 03:05:43,250 Kill the president, will you? 3867 03:05:44,750 --> 03:05:46,833 I am not resisting arrest! 3868 03:05:47,083 --> 03:05:49,167 I am not resisting arrest! 3869 03:05:49,250 --> 03:05:51,000 The police have their man. 3870 03:05:51,542 --> 03:05:53,833 It's already been decided... 3871 03:05:53,917 --> 03:05:54,875 in Washington. 3872 03:05:55,375 --> 03:05:58,000 By the time he is brought out from the theater, 3873 03:05:58,083 --> 03:06:00,375 a large crowd is waiting to scream at him. 3874 03:06:00,708 --> 03:06:04,375 Lee Oswald must've felt like Josef K in Kafka's The Trial. 3875 03:06:04,458 --> 03:06:06,875 He's never told the reasons for his arrest, 3876 03:06:06,958 --> 03:06:10,167 he doesn't know the unseen forces ranging against him. 3877 03:06:10,417 --> 03:06:12,542 By the time he reached police headquarters, 3878 03:06:12,625 --> 03:06:14,375 he is booked for murdering Tippit. 3879 03:06:14,500 --> 03:06:16,333 - No legal counsel is provided, 3880 03:06:16,417 --> 03:06:18,750 no record made of the long questioning. 3881 03:06:18,833 --> 03:06:21,417 By the time the sun rises the next morning, 3882 03:06:21,500 --> 03:06:23,792 he is booked for murdering the president. 3883 03:06:24,208 --> 03:06:26,583 The whole country, fueled by the media, 3884 03:06:26,667 --> 03:06:28,125 assumes he is guilty. 3885 03:06:28,958 --> 03:06:31,083 Under the guise of a patriotic nightclub owner 3886 03:06:31,167 --> 03:06:35,125 out to spare Jackie Kennedy from having to testify at a trial, 3887 03:06:35,208 --> 03:06:37,792 Jack Ruby is shown into an underground garage 3888 03:06:37,875 --> 03:06:40,667 by one of his inside men on the Dallas police force, 3889 03:06:41,583 --> 03:06:43,375 and when he is ready, Lee Harvey Oswald 3890 03:06:43,458 --> 03:06:45,625 - is brought out like a sacrificial lamb 3891 03:06:45,708 --> 03:06:48,417 and nicely disposed of, as an enemy of the people. 3892 03:06:48,542 --> 03:06:49,458 Oswald! 3893 03:07:07,375 --> 03:07:09,333 Who grieves for Lee Harvey Oswald? 3894 03:07:10,250 --> 03:07:13,125 Buried in a cheap grave under the name "Oswald"? 3895 03:07:14,375 --> 03:07:15,833 Nobody. 3896 03:07:22,917 --> 03:07:23,917 Within minutes, 3897 03:07:24,000 --> 03:07:27,917 false statements and press leaks about Lee Oswald circulate the globe. 3898 03:07:28,833 --> 03:07:31,917 The Official Legend is created and the media takes it from there. 3899 03:07:33,583 --> 03:07:35,750 The glitter of official lies and the epic splendor 3900 03:07:35,833 --> 03:07:37,792 of the thought-numbing funeral of JFK 3901 03:07:37,875 --> 03:07:41,083 confuse the eye and confound the understanding. 3902 03:07:42,250 --> 03:07:44,208 Hitler always said... 3903 03:07:44,292 --> 03:07:47,667 "the bigger the lie, the more people will believe it." 3904 03:07:49,000 --> 03:07:52,375 Lee Harvey Oswald, a crazed, lonely man who wanted attention 3905 03:07:52,458 --> 03:07:55,250 and got it by killing a president, was only the first 3906 03:07:55,333 --> 03:07:57,083 in a long line of patsies. 3907 03:07:57,833 --> 03:07:59,833 In later years, Bobby Kennedy, 3908 03:07:59,917 --> 03:08:01,417 Martin Luther King, men whose 3909 03:08:01,500 --> 03:08:03,500 commitment to change and peace 3910 03:08:03,583 --> 03:08:07,083 would make them dangerous to men who are committed to war, would follow, 3911 03:08:07,708 --> 03:08:10,583 also killed by such lonely, crazed men, 3912 03:08:11,583 --> 03:08:14,042 men who remove our guilt by making murder 3913 03:08:14,125 --> 03:08:15,958 a meaningless act of a loner. 3914 03:08:17,208 --> 03:08:19,167 We have all become Hamlets in our country, 3915 03:08:19,250 --> 03:08:21,542 children of a slain father-leader, 3916 03:08:21,625 --> 03:08:23,750 whose killers still possess the throne. 3917 03:08:24,500 --> 03:08:28,208 The ghost of John F. Kennedy confronts us with the secret murder 3918 03:08:28,292 --> 03:08:30,083 at the heart of the American dream. 3919 03:08:30,708 --> 03:08:32,958 He forces on us the appalling questions: 3920 03:08:33,042 --> 03:08:34,708 Of what is our Constitution made? 3921 03:08:35,792 --> 03:08:38,250 What is our citizenship, and more, our lives worth? 3922 03:08:38,333 --> 03:08:40,333 What is the future of a democracy, 3923 03:08:40,417 --> 03:08:42,583 where a president can be assassinated under 3924 03:08:42,667 --> 03:08:44,750 conspicuously suspicious circumstances, 3925 03:08:44,833 --> 03:08:47,708 while the machinery of legal action scarcely trembles? 3926 03:08:49,125 --> 03:08:52,667 How many more political murders, disguised as heart attacks, 3927 03:08:52,750 --> 03:08:53,917 suicides, 3928 03:08:54,000 --> 03:08:55,542 cancers, drug overdoses, 3929 03:08:55,625 --> 03:08:58,292 how many airplane and car crashes will occur 3930 03:08:58,375 --> 03:09:00,583 before they are exposed for what they are? 3931 03:09:02,583 --> 03:09:05,333 "Treason doth never prosper,” wrote an English poet. 3932 03:09:06,417 --> 03:09:07,458 What's the reason? 3933 03:09:08,583 --> 03:09:10,750 Well, if it prosper, none dare call it treason. 3934 03:09:12,083 --> 03:09:14,583 The American public has yet to see the Zapruder film. 3935 03:09:15,583 --> 03:09:16,500 Why? 3936 03:09:17,208 --> 03:09:20,542 The American public has yet to see the real X-rays and photographs 3937 03:09:20,625 --> 03:09:21,375 of the autopsy. 3938 03:09:21,458 --> 03:09:22,625 Why? 3939 03:09:23,458 --> 03:09:26,708 There are hundreds of documents that could help prove this conspiracy. 3940 03:09:26,792 --> 03:09:29,667 Why are they being withheld or burned by the government? 3941 03:09:30,917 --> 03:09:33,208 Each time my office, or you, the people, 3942 03:09:33,292 --> 03:09:35,667 have asked those questions, demanded crucial evidence, 3943 03:09:35,750 --> 03:09:37,958 the answer from on high has always been 3944 03:09:38,042 --> 03:09:39,458 "national security.” 3945 03:09:40,667 --> 03:09:42,542 What kind of "national security” do we have 3946 03:09:42,625 --> 03:09:44,375 when we have been robbed of our leaders? 3947 03:09:45,333 --> 03:09:47,833 What "national security” permits the removal 3948 03:09:47,917 --> 03:09:50,625 of fundamental power from the hands of the American people 3949 03:09:50,708 --> 03:09:54,333 and validates the ascendancy of invisible government in the United States? 3950 03:09:55,792 --> 03:09:57,208 That kind of "national security," 3951 03:09:57,292 --> 03:09:59,250 gentlemen of the jury, is when it smells like it, 3952 03:09:59,333 --> 03:10:01,250 feels like it, and looks like it, 3953 03:10:01,958 --> 03:10:03,500 you call it what it is. 3954 03:10:04,167 --> 03:10:05,417 Fascism. 3955 03:10:07,667 --> 03:10:09,875 I submit to you that what took place 3956 03:10:09,958 --> 03:10:12,667 on November 22nd, 1963 3957 03:10:12,750 --> 03:10:14,000 was a coup d'état. 3958 03:10:15,167 --> 03:10:17,625 Its most direct and tragic result 3959 03:10:17,708 --> 03:10:21,542 was a reversal of President Kennedy's commitment to withdraw from Vietnam. 3960 03:10:23,000 --> 03:10:28,042 A war is the biggest business in America, worth 80 billion dollars a year. 3961 03:10:28,917 --> 03:10:31,708 President Kennedy was murdered by a conspiracy 3962 03:10:31,792 --> 03:10:34,833 that was planned in advance at the highest levels of our government, 3963 03:10:34,917 --> 03:10:38,583 and it was carried out by fanatical and disciplined Cold Warriors 3964 03:10:38,667 --> 03:10:42,125 in the Pentagon and CIA's covert operations apparatus, 3965 03:10:42,208 --> 03:10:44,833 among them Clay Shaw here before you. 3966 03:10:45,625 --> 03:10:47,458 It was a public execution. 3967 03:10:47,542 --> 03:10:50,292 And it was covered up by like-minded individuals 3968 03:10:50,375 --> 03:10:51,958 in the Dallas Police Department, 3969 03:10:52,042 --> 03:10:54,125 the Secret Service, the FBI, 3970 03:10:54,208 --> 03:10:56,208 - and the White House, all the way up to 3971 03:10:56,292 --> 03:10:59,583 including J. Edgar Hoover and Lyndon Johnson, 3972 03:10:59,667 --> 03:11:02,042 whom I consider accomplices after the fact. 3973 03:11:02,708 --> 03:11:06,750 The assassination reduced the president to a transient official. 3974 03:11:07,292 --> 03:11:08,917 His job, his assignment, 3975 03:11:09,000 --> 03:11:13,208 is to speak as often as possible of this nation's desire for peace 3976 03:11:13,292 --> 03:11:15,958 while he acts as a business agent in the Congress 3977 03:11:16,042 --> 03:11:18,417 for the military and their hardware manufacturers. 3978 03:11:20,458 --> 03:11:22,500 Now, some people say I'm crazy. 3979 03:11:24,167 --> 03:11:27,333 Southern caricature seeking higher office. 3980 03:11:29,208 --> 03:11:32,708 Well, there is a simple way to determine if I am paranoid. 3981 03:11:32,792 --> 03:11:35,375 Let's ask the two men who have profited the most from the assassination: 3982 03:11:35,458 --> 03:11:37,625 your former president, Lyndon Baines Johnson, 3983 03:11:37,708 --> 03:11:39,583 and your new president, Richard Nixon, 3984 03:11:39,667 --> 03:11:41,750 to release the 51 CIA documents 3985 03:11:41,833 --> 03:11:44,333 pertaining to Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby. 3986 03:11:45,208 --> 03:11:46,958 Or the secret CIA memo 3987 03:11:47,042 --> 03:11:49,667 on Oswald's activities in Russia that was destroyed 3988 03:11:49,750 --> 03:11:51,042 while being photocopied. 3989 03:11:51,583 --> 03:11:53,500 All these documents are yours, 3990 03:11:54,083 --> 03:11:56,333 the people's property. You pay for it. 3991 03:11:57,417 --> 03:12:00,667 But because the government considers you children who might be too disturbed 3992 03:12:00,750 --> 03:12:02,667 or distressed to face this reality, 3993 03:12:03,458 --> 03:12:06,250 or because you might possibly lynch those involved, 3994 03:12:07,167 --> 03:12:10,333 you cannot see these documents for another 75 years. 3995 03:12:11,292 --> 03:12:13,333 I'm in my early 40s, 3996 03:12:14,167 --> 03:12:17,208 so I'll have shuffled off this mortal coil by then, 3997 03:12:17,292 --> 03:12:19,792 but I'm already telling my eight-year-old son 3998 03:12:19,875 --> 03:12:21,750 to keep himself physically fit, 3999 03:12:22,500 --> 03:12:24,833 so that one glorious September morning 4000 03:12:24,917 --> 03:12:26,500 in the year 2038, 4001 03:12:26,583 --> 03:12:28,667 he can walk into the National Archives 4002 03:12:28,750 --> 03:12:31,833 and find out what the CIA and the FBI knew! 4003 03:12:33,125 --> 03:12:34,542 They may even push it back, then. 4004 03:12:34,625 --> 03:12:36,833 Hell, it may become a generational affair, 4005 03:12:36,917 --> 03:12:39,250 with questions passed down father to son, 4006 03:12:39,333 --> 03:12:40,458 mother to daughter. 4007 03:12:40,542 --> 03:12:42,458 That someday, somewhere 4008 03:12:42,542 --> 03:12:44,667 someone may find out the damn truth. 4009 03:12:45,417 --> 03:12:46,542 We better. 4010 03:12:47,708 --> 03:12:50,167 We better, or we might, just as well, build ourselves 4011 03:12:50,250 --> 03:12:51,833 another government... 4012 03:12:51,917 --> 03:12:54,208 like the Declaration of Independence says to, 4013 03:12:54,292 --> 03:12:56,292 when the old one ain't working, just-- 4014 03:12:56,375 --> 03:12:58,250 just a little farther out West. 4015 03:12:59,917 --> 03:13:01,917 An American naturalist wrote: 4016 03:13:02,250 --> 03:13:05,250 "A patriot must always be ready to defend his country... 4017 03:13:05,708 --> 03:13:07,042 against its government." 4018 03:13:09,208 --> 03:13:11,000 I would hate to be in your shoes today. 4019 03:13:12,083 --> 03:13:13,167 You have a lot to think about. 4020 03:13:13,250 --> 03:13:16,417 You've seen much hidden evidence the American public has never seen. 4021 03:13:17,958 --> 03:13:20,167 You know, going back to when we were children, 4022 03:13:21,250 --> 03:13:23,833 I think that most of us in this courtroom thought that 4023 03:13:23,917 --> 03:13:26,125 justice came into being automatically, 4024 03:13:27,125 --> 03:13:28,875 that virtue was its own reward, that-- 4025 03:13:28,958 --> 03:13:30,750 that good would triumph over evil. 4026 03:13:32,417 --> 03:13:35,083 But as we get older, we know this just isn't true. 4027 03:13:36,167 --> 03:13:38,875 Individual human beings have to create justice, 4028 03:13:38,958 --> 03:13:40,417 and this is not easy... 4029 03:13:41,708 --> 03:13:44,667 because the truth often poses a threat to power, 4030 03:13:45,292 --> 03:13:48,500 and one often has to fight power at great risk to themselves. 4031 03:13:49,000 --> 03:13:50,792 People like S. M. Holland, 4032 03:13:51,500 --> 03:13:52,708 Lee Bowers, 4033 03:13:53,333 --> 03:13:55,208 Jean Hill, Willie O'Keefe. 4034 03:13:55,292 --> 03:13:57,708 They've all taken that risk. They've all come forward. 4035 03:13:59,000 --> 03:14:02,375 I have here some 8,000 dollars in these letters sent-- 4036 03:14:02,458 --> 03:14:04,750 sent to my office from all over the country. 4037 03:14:05,250 --> 03:14:08,500 Quarters, dimes, dollar bills from housewives, 4038 03:14:08,583 --> 03:14:11,417 plumbers, car salesmen, teachers, invalids. 4039 03:14:12,625 --> 03:14:16,042 These are people who cannot afford to send money but do. 4040 03:14:16,875 --> 03:14:18,917 These are the ones who drive the cabs, 4041 03:14:19,542 --> 03:14:20,833 who nurse in the hospitals, 4042 03:14:20,917 --> 03:14:23,458 who see their kids go to Vietnam. 4043 03:14:24,917 --> 03:14:25,750 Why? 4044 03:14:27,417 --> 03:14:28,708 Because they care. 4045 03:14:29,833 --> 03:14:31,750 Because they want to know the truth. 4046 03:14:32,792 --> 03:14:34,750 Because they want their country back. 4047 03:14:34,833 --> 03:14:36,833 Because it still belongs to us, 4048 03:14:37,417 --> 03:14:40,458 as long as the people have the guts to fight for what they believe in. 4049 03:14:43,792 --> 03:14:46,083 The truth is the most important value we have 4050 03:14:46,167 --> 03:14:48,167 because if the truth does not endure, 4051 03:14:49,292 --> 03:14:51,000 if the government murders truth, if it-- 4052 03:14:51,083 --> 03:14:54,083 if we cannot respect the hearts of these people, then this is 4053 03:14:54,167 --> 03:14:56,708 not the country in which I was born in, and it is certainly not 4054 03:14:56,792 --> 03:14:58,250 the country that I want to die in. 4055 03:15:00,125 --> 03:15:01,542 Tennyson wrote: 4056 03:15:01,625 --> 03:15:03,583 "Authority forgets a dying king." 4057 03:15:05,625 --> 03:15:08,042 This was never more true than for John F. Kennedy, 4058 03:15:08,125 --> 03:15:12,042 whose murder was probably one of the most terrible moments... 4059 03:15:12,125 --> 03:15:13,667 in the history of our country. 4060 03:15:16,875 --> 03:15:20,542 You the people, the jury system, sitting in judgement on Clay Shaw, 4061 03:15:22,625 --> 03:15:24,375 represent the hope... 4062 03:15:24,458 --> 03:15:26,958 of humanity against government power. 4063 03:15:28,250 --> 03:15:30,083 In discharging your duty, 4064 03:15:30,792 --> 03:15:32,417 in bringing the first conviction 4065 03:15:32,500 --> 03:15:34,292 in this house of cards 4066 03:15:34,375 --> 03:15:36,000 against Clay Shaw, 4067 03:15:36,708 --> 03:15:40,708 "Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.” 4068 03:15:41,917 --> 03:15:43,292 Do not forget... 4069 03:15:44,167 --> 03:15:45,708 your dying king. 4070 03:15:47,417 --> 03:15:48,750 Show this world... 4071 03:15:49,542 --> 03:15:52,750 that this is still a government of the people, for the people, 4072 03:15:53,292 --> 03:15:54,542 and by the people. 4073 03:15:56,875 --> 03:15:58,833 Nothing, as long as you live, 4074 03:15:58,917 --> 03:16:00,583 will ever be more important. 4075 03:16:04,167 --> 03:16:05,583 It's up to you. 4076 03:16:28,625 --> 03:16:30,750 Has the jury reached a verdict? 4077 03:16:31,417 --> 03:16:32,708 Yes, we have, Your Honor. 4078 03:16:32,792 --> 03:16:35,042 Please hand the verdict to the clerk. 4079 03:16:44,792 --> 03:16:47,250 Will the defendant please rise? 4080 03:16:51,208 --> 03:16:53,375 The clerk will now read the verdict. 4081 03:16:54,208 --> 03:16:58,250 New Orleans, Louisiana. March 1st, 1969. 4082 03:16:58,917 --> 03:17:02,375 We, the jury, find the defendant, Clay Shaw, 4083 03:17:02,458 --> 03:17:04,125 not guilty. 4084 03:17:10,250 --> 03:17:11,625 - Thank you, thank you. - Wonderful. 4085 03:17:14,167 --> 03:17:15,458 Congratulations! 4086 03:17:15,583 --> 03:17:17,125 We're gonna go fishing tomorrow! 4087 03:17:25,583 --> 03:17:27,042 We believe there was a conspiracy, 4088 03:17:27,125 --> 03:17:30,333 but whether Clay Shaw was a part of it is another kettle of fish. 4089 03:17:30,417 --> 03:17:31,958 There's Jim! There's Jim! 4090 03:17:33,792 --> 03:17:36,375 Mr. Garrison, the American media is reporting this 4091 03:17:36,458 --> 03:17:38,292 as a full vindication of the Warren Commission. 4092 03:17:38,375 --> 03:17:39,667 Do you agree? 4093 03:17:40,958 --> 03:17:44,250 All I think it proves is you cannot run an investigation, 4094 03:17:44,333 --> 03:17:47,792 in the light of day, even questioning the intelligence operations 4095 03:17:47,875 --> 03:17:49,000 of the United States government. 4096 03:17:49,083 --> 03:17:50,458 We understand that the morning paper 4097 03:17:50,542 --> 03:17:52,917 will call for your resignation, that you're unfit to hold office, 4098 03:17:53,000 --> 03:17:54,875 that you've ruined Clay Shaw's reputation. 4099 03:17:54,958 --> 03:17:56,667 Mr. Garrison, are you gonna resign? 4100 03:17:56,750 --> 03:17:57,667 Hell, no. 4101 03:17:57,750 --> 03:17:58,958 I'm gonna run again. 4102 03:17:59,417 --> 03:18:00,958 And I'm gonna win, thank you. 4103 03:18:01,042 --> 03:18:03,000 Who do you plan to persecute next, Mr. Garrison? 4104 03:18:03,083 --> 03:18:05,667 If it takes me 30 years to nail every one of the assassins, 4105 03:18:05,750 --> 03:18:08,750 then I will continue this investigation for 30 years. 4106 03:18:09,375 --> 03:18:12,333 I owe that not only to Jack Kennedy, but to the country. 4107 03:18:12,417 --> 03:18:14,750 - Hey, there's Clay! There's Clay Shaw! 4108 03:18:14,833 --> 03:18:16,875 Mr. Shaw, how does it feel to be acquitted? 4109 03:18:16,958 --> 03:18:18,792 It's been exhausting, I must say. 4110 03:18:18,875 --> 03:18:20,167 What will you do now, Mr. Shaw? 4111 03:18:20,250 --> 03:18:22,167 I should go home and cook some étouffée. 4112 03:18:26,833 --> 03:18:28,792 Do you think Garrison will be back for a second round? 4113 03:18:28,875 --> 03:18:30,042 I'm sure he will. 329846

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