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But we can no longer risk
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emergency improvisation
of national defense.
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We have been compelled to create
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a permanent armaments industry
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of vast proportions.
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Added to this...
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three and a half million men and women
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are directly engaged
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in the defense establishment.
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We annually spend on military
security alone...
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- January 1961.
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President Dwight D. Eisenhower's
Farewell Address to the nation.
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Now this conjunction...
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of an immense military establishment
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and a large arms industry
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is new...
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in the American experience.
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The total influence...
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economic, political, even spiritual,
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is felt in every city,
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every state house,
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every office of the federal government.
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- We must guard against the acquisition
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of unwarranted influence,
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whether sought or unsought,
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by the military-industrial complex.
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We must never let the weight
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of this combination
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endanger our liberties,
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or democratic processes.
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November, 1960.
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Senator John Fitzgerald Kennedy,
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of Massachusetts,
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wins one of the narrowest
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election victories in American history
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over the vice president,
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Richard Nixon,
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by a little more than 100,000 votes.
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Alongside his beautiful
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and elegant wife, Jacqueline Bouvier,
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Kennedy is the symbol
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of the new freedom of the 1960s,
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signifying change and upheaval
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to the American public.
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That all men are created equal.
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Every degree of mind and spirit
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that I possess...
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will be devoted to the cause of
freedom around the world.
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Today, the proudest boast is...
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"Ich bin ein Berliner!"
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He inherits a secret war
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- against the communist Castro dictatorship
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in Cuba, a war run by the CIA
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and angry Cuban exiles.
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Castro is a successful revolutionary,
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frightening to American business interests
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in Latin America.
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This war culminates
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in the disastrous Bay of Pigs invasion
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in April 1961,
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when Kennedy refuses to provide air cover
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for the exiled Cuban brigade.
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- Kennedy, taking public responsibility
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for the failure,
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privately claims the CIA lied to him
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and tried to manipulate him
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into ordering an all-out American invasion
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of Cuba.
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In October 1962, the world comes
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to the brink of nuclear war,
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when Kennedy quarantines Cuba
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after announcing the presence of offensive
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- Soviet nuclear missiles
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90 miles off American shores.
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Soviet ships with more missiles
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sail towards the island,
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but at the last moment,
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they turn back.
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- The world breathes with relief.
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In Washington, rumors abound that JFK
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has cut a secret deal
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with Russian Premier Khrushchev
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- ...no wish to war with Soviet Union...
- not to invade Cuba
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in return for a Russian withdrawal
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of missiles.
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Suspicions abound
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that Kennedy is soft on communism.
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Kennedy also finds himself embroiled
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in Laos and Vietnam.
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We've got our difficulties there,
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quite obviously.
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Unless a greater effort is made
by the government,
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to win popular support, I don't think that
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the war can be won out there.
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And the final analysis...
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it's their war.
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They're the ones who have to win it
or lose it.
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Early that fateful summer,
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Kennedy speaks of his new vision
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at the American University in Washington.
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What kind of a peace do I mean?
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And what kind of a peace
do we seek?
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Not a Pax Americana,
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enforced on the world
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by American weapons of war.
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We must reexamine our own attitudes
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towards the Soviet Union.
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Our most basic, common link
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is that we all inhabit
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this small planet.
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We all breathe the same air.
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We all cherish our children's futures.
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And we are all mortal.
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You fucking asshole!
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You come back here!
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Don't leave me here!
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They're going up to Dallas.
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Friday.
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They're gonna...kill...Kennedy.
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Call somebody...
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And stop them.
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These are serious fucking guys!
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She's high as a kite
on something.
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- Been that way since they brought her in.
- Please help!
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Please!
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In Dallas, Texas,
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three shots were fired
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at President Kennedy's motorcade
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in Downtown Dallas.
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The first reports say that
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President Kennedy has been
seriously wounded
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by this shooting.
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What's wrong, Lou?
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Boss,
the president's been shot.
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In Dallas. Five minutes ago.
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Oh, no.
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How bad?
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There's no word yet,
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but they think it's in the head.
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Come on.
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Napoleon's has a TV set.
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Apparently, three bullets were found.
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Governor Connally also appeared to
have been hit.
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The President was rushed
by Secret Service
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to Parkland Memorial Hospital,
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four miles from Dealey Plaza.
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We are told a bullet entered
the base of the throat,
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and came out of the backside,
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but there is no confirmation.
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Blood transfusions are being given.
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A priest has administered
the last rites.
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There's still a chance,
damnit.
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Come on, Jack.
Pull through.
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From Dallas, Texas.
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The flash, apparently official.
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President Kennedy died
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- at 1:00 p.m. Central Standard Time.
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2:00 Eastern Standard Time.
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Some 38 minutes ago.
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Vice President Lyndon Johnson
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has left the hospital.
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Presumably, he will be taking
the oath of office shortly
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and become the 36th President
of the United States.
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He did so much for this country,
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for colored people.
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Why?
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Why?
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He's dirty!
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Goodbye,
you sorry bastard!
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Die!
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- Hey, shut the fuck up!
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God, I'm ashamed to be an
American today.
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The President of the United States...
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is dead.
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I have just talked to Father
Oscar Hubert,
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of the Holy Trinity
Catholic Church.
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He and another priest
tell me that the pair of men
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had just administered
the last rites
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to President Kennedy.
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Shortly after 12:30,
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as the president's motorcade
near the freeway entrance
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near the park in the westside
of Downtown Dallas,
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those terrible shots rang out.
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The president is dead.
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Bullets were coming up
over our heads...
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from that fence up on
the knoll.
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- I seen his face when it hit. He just...
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His ear blew off...
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and he turns this real white.
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He kind of flopped over
on his stomach...
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And um...
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with his foot sticking out.
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Excuse me.
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None of us thought it could
happen in America
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- or any place else, and yet...
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All this blubbering over that no-count
son of a bitch.
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They're bawling
like they knew the man.
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Makes me want to puke.
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For God's sake,
chief, the president was shot.
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A bullshit president.
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I don't see anybody crying
for all those thousands of Cubans
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that bastard condemned to death
and torture at Bay of Pigs.
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Goddamn peace treaties.
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I heard shots from over there.
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Well, I heard some shots
from right over there.
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- How many shots?
- Uh, I can't...
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That's what happens when
you let the niggers vote.
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They get together with the Jews
and the Catholics...
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and elect an Irish bleeding heart.
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Uh, chief, maybe you had a little
too much to drink.
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Bullshit.
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Here's to the New Frontier.
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Camelot in smithereens.
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I'll drink to that.
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A flash bulletin.
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Dallas police have just announced
that they have a suspect
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in the killing of a Dallas police officer,
a J. D. Tippit,
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who was shot at 1:15 in Oak Cliff.
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That's a suburb of Dallas.
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Police are saying there could be
a tie-in, here,
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- to the murder of the president.
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The suspect, identified as
Lee Harvey Oswald,
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was arrested by more than
a dozen police officers,
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after a short scuffle at the Texas
movie theater in Oak CIiff.
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Officer Tippit
was killed apparently...
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...by a revolver,
which was found on Oswald.
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There is apparently...
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They oughta just shoot
the bastard!
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They should give him a medal
for shooting Kennedy!
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- Oswald!
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Oswald,
did you fire that rifle?
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No, sir, I didn't.
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I don't know what I am
charged with,
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- but I emphatically deny these charges.
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Well, the kid must've gone
nuts, right?
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- I said, Oswald must've flipped.
- Yeah.
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- Right?
- Yeah.
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Just went ahead and did this crazy thing
before anybody could stop him.
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I think I'll get out of here.
I've got to get home, chief.
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What the hell
are you talking about?
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Yeah,
who would ever have thought
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that goofy Oswald kid would pull a stunt
like an assassination.
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Just goes to show, you never can know
about some people.
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- Am I right, Jack?
- Yeah.
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- Am I right, Jack?
- Yeah.
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- Well, bless my soul.
- Huh?
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Yeah, all these years I thought
you were on my team.
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Sometimes, I don't know.
Are you kidding?
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I couldn't be more serious,
Jack.
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The little red eyes of yours have me
wondering about your loyalty.
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Look at that.
Look at that lightning.
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- Who's been going through my files?
- Huh?
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You've been going through my files,
haven't you?
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You little weasel.
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You're starting to get paranoid.
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You really are!
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You were going through
all my files.
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You're a goddamn spy.
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Why the hell would I want to look
through your files, chief?
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I've seen enough here this summer
already to write a book.
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I always lock my files!
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You're the only one here today.
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- What do you mean, you bastard?
- Huh?
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What do you mean,
you're going to write a book?
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What? No, I mean,
well, you know what I mean.
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I've seen a lot of strange things here.
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Strange people.
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You didn't see a goddamn thing!
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- Goddamn you.
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You didn't see a goddamn thing,
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you hear me,
you little weasel?
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00:14:02,167 --> 00:14:03,875
- You didn't see a goddamn thing!
273
00:14:03,958 --> 00:14:06,125
Full name is Lee Harvey Oswald.
274
00:14:06,375 --> 00:14:07,875
O-S-W-A-L-D.
275
00:14:07,958 --> 00:14:09,458
- Stand back, please.
- Did you shoot the president?
276
00:14:09,542 --> 00:14:11,250
I didn't shoot anybody, no, sir.
277
00:14:11,833 --> 00:14:14,125
They have taken me in
because of the fact
278
00:14:14,208 --> 00:14:16,667
I have lived in the Soviet Union.
279
00:14:17,167 --> 00:14:19,083
I'm just a patsy!
280
00:14:19,583 --> 00:14:21,750
God,
he sure looks like a creep.
281
00:14:22,500 --> 00:14:27,042
I protested at that time I was
not allowed legal representation...
282
00:14:27,875 --> 00:14:31,625
during that very short and sweet
hearing...
283
00:14:31,708 --> 00:14:35,333
I really don't know
what this situation is about.
284
00:14:35,417 --> 00:14:38,958
Nobody has told me anything,
except that I am accused of
285
00:14:39,042 --> 00:14:40,500
murdering a policeman.
286
00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,917
I know nothing more than that,
and I do request
287
00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,333
someone to come forward to give me
legal assistance.
288
00:14:49,417 --> 00:14:51,625
Were you ever in
the Free Cuba movement
289
00:14:51,708 --> 00:14:52,667
or whatever that it's called?
290
00:14:52,750 --> 00:14:54,667
That's the Fair Play for
Cuba Committee.
291
00:14:55,375 --> 00:14:56,500
What did you do in Russia?
292
00:14:56,583 --> 00:14:57,708
And what happened to your eye?
293
00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,792
He seems pretty cool to me
for a man under pressure like that.
294
00:15:01,125 --> 00:15:02,583
- A policeman hit me.
295
00:15:02,750 --> 00:15:04,167
Gives me the willies.
296
00:15:04,417 --> 00:15:07,875
Okay, come on, sugarplums,
it's past your bedtimes.
297
00:15:08,208 --> 00:15:09,792
Oh, Mattie, honey.
298
00:15:09,875 --> 00:15:12,000
- Get a hold of yourself.
299
00:15:12,333 --> 00:15:13,875
Why, Mr. Jim?
300
00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,667
He was a fine man.
301
00:15:16,750 --> 00:15:18,250
Lee Harvey Oswald...
302
00:15:18,333 --> 00:15:20,000
- A fine man.
- After a stint in the marines,
303
00:15:20,083 --> 00:15:21,750
he apparently became fascinated
304
00:15:21,833 --> 00:15:22,875
by communism.
305
00:15:22,958 --> 00:15:25,500
He is still believed
to be a dedicated Marxist
306
00:15:25,583 --> 00:15:27,750
and a fanatical supporter of Fidel Castro
307
00:15:27,833 --> 00:15:29,833
and ultra left-wing causes.
308
00:15:30,125 --> 00:15:31,917
He spent last summer in New Orleans
309
00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,583
and was arrested there in a brawl
310
00:15:33,667 --> 00:15:36,125
with anti-Castro Cuban exiles.
311
00:15:36,208 --> 00:15:39,208
And apparently, Bob,
Oswald has been passing out...
312
00:15:39,292 --> 00:15:40,458
- Hello, Lou?
313
00:15:40,542 --> 00:15:41,875
Yeah, sorry to disturb you this late.
314
00:15:41,958 --> 00:15:43,250
It's all right, I'm watching it, too.
315
00:15:43,333 --> 00:15:44,417
Yeah, a matter of routine,
316
00:15:44,500 --> 00:15:46,917
but we better get on this Oswald
connection to New Orleans right away.
317
00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,250
- Mm-hmm.
- I want you to check out his record.
318
00:15:49,333 --> 00:15:51,750
Find any friends or associates
from last summer.
319
00:15:52,125 --> 00:15:54,583
Let's meet with the senior assistants
and investigators
320
00:15:54,667 --> 00:15:56,333
day after tomorrow, all right?
321
00:15:56,417 --> 00:15:57,792
That'd be on Sunday?
322
00:15:57,875 --> 00:15:59,208
Sunday, yeah, at 11:00.
323
00:15:59,708 --> 00:16:01,500
- All right.
- All right. Thanks, Lou.
324
00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,125
I would say that, without any doubt,
325
00:16:04,208 --> 00:16:05,250
he is the killer.
326
00:16:05,333 --> 00:16:07,208
The law says beyond a reasonable doubt
327
00:16:07,292 --> 00:16:08,750
and to a moral certainty.
328
00:16:08,833 --> 00:16:10,917
I thought it was a motorcycle backfire,
329
00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,708
and I looked over to my left
330
00:16:12,792 --> 00:16:15,000
and a second shot hit him in the face.
331
00:16:15,083 --> 00:16:16,625
Police say the rifle,
332
00:16:16,708 --> 00:16:20,042
a cheap World War II,
Italian-made Mannlicher-Carcano...
333
00:16:20,375 --> 00:16:22,417
was ordered from a Chicago
mailing house
334
00:16:22,875 --> 00:16:26,083
and shipped to Oswald's alias,
A. Hidell,
335
00:16:26,167 --> 00:16:28,958
at a post office box
in March of 1963.
336
00:16:29,042 --> 00:16:30,958
This is the same rifle that was used
337
00:16:31,042 --> 00:16:32,542
to assassinate the president.
338
00:16:33,208 --> 00:16:34,250
That ties it up.
339
00:16:34,417 --> 00:16:35,583
He did what?
340
00:16:35,667 --> 00:16:37,042
Another nut.
341
00:16:37,125 --> 00:16:39,458
Jesus Christ!
Anybody can get a rifle in Texas.
342
00:16:39,542 --> 00:16:41,250
As far as Oswald's associates, boss,
343
00:16:41,333 --> 00:16:44,125
the one name that keeps popping up is
David Ferrie.
344
00:16:44,375 --> 00:16:46,625
Oswald was seen with him several times
last summer.
345
00:16:47,792 --> 00:16:48,833
I know David.
346
00:16:49,792 --> 00:16:51,000
Strange character.
347
00:16:51,083 --> 00:16:52,292
Yeah,
he's been in trouble before.
348
00:16:52,375 --> 00:16:54,542
Used to be a hot-shot pilot
for Eastern Airlines
349
00:16:54,625 --> 00:16:57,500
but got canned after an alleged
homosexual incident
350
00:16:57,583 --> 00:16:59,292
- with a 14 year old.
- These backyard photos
351
00:16:59,375 --> 00:17:01,833
were found yesterday among
Oswald's possessions.
352
00:17:01,917 --> 00:17:02,917
- Get Kohiman.
353
00:17:03,500 --> 00:17:05,458
He told somebody the Texas trip.
354
00:17:05,542 --> 00:17:07,583
Yesterday,
mentioned to somebody about Ferrie.
355
00:17:08,292 --> 00:17:09,333
Find it out.
356
00:17:09,417 --> 00:17:10,708
Did he shoot the president, Marina?
357
00:17:10,792 --> 00:17:12,167
He no shoot anyone.
358
00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,250
He good-- good man.
Good husband.
359
00:17:16,208 --> 00:17:19,750
So it seems David Ferrie drove off on
Friday afternoon for Texas.
360
00:17:20,125 --> 00:17:22,750
A source told Kohlman he might have been
a getaway pilot for Oswald.
361
00:17:22,833 --> 00:17:24,125
What getaway pilot?
362
00:17:24,292 --> 00:17:26,333
Hold on.
Hold your horses.
363
00:17:26,583 --> 00:17:28,000
What kind of source?
364
00:17:28,625 --> 00:17:30,125
The anonymous kind, chief.
365
00:17:30,958 --> 00:17:32,583
I think I remember this guy Ferrie,
366
00:17:32,667 --> 00:17:34,667
speaking at a meeting of some
veterans group,
367
00:17:34,750 --> 00:17:36,125
ranting against Castro.
368
00:17:36,292 --> 00:17:37,375
Extreme sort of stuff.
369
00:17:38,458 --> 00:17:39,792
Susie, back up.
370
00:17:39,875 --> 00:17:40,875
They're bringing him out.
371
00:17:40,958 --> 00:17:42,625
- Numa, turn it up.
- Yeah.
372
00:17:43,792 --> 00:17:45,208
- Here he comes!
373
00:17:45,292 --> 00:17:46,542
Come on, here he comes!
Get that stuff!
374
00:17:46,625 --> 00:17:47,583
Come on, let's get him!
375
00:17:50,917 --> 00:17:52,667
Is there anything you want
to say in your defense?
376
00:17:53,750 --> 00:17:54,667
Oswald!
377
00:17:55,917 --> 00:17:56,667
What happened?
378
00:17:56,750 --> 00:17:57,875
He's been shot!
- He shot him!
379
00:17:58,750 --> 00:18:00,708
- He's been shot!
380
00:18:00,792 --> 00:18:02,292
He shot him on TV! Just shot him!
381
00:18:05,333 --> 00:18:06,583
There's a man with a gun!
382
00:18:06,792 --> 00:18:09,000
- There's absolute panic!
- It's the guy in the hat.
383
00:18:09,083 --> 00:18:11,333
Seventy cops in that place.
What the hell were they doing?
384
00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:14,417
Well, no trial now.
385
00:18:15,292 --> 00:18:18,375
Looks like somebody just saved the
Dallas DA a pile of work.
386
00:18:18,500 --> 00:18:21,875
Pandemonium has broken loose
here in the basement of Dallas Police...
387
00:18:22,125 --> 00:18:22,875
Lou.
388
00:18:23,792 --> 00:18:25,917
Lou, let's get David Ferrie in here
anyway.
389
00:18:26,917 --> 00:18:28,083
It's wrong.
390
00:18:28,458 --> 00:18:29,667
This is crazy!
391
00:18:44,042 --> 00:18:46,292
Yesterday, in the midst of sorrow,
392
00:18:46,375 --> 00:18:48,167
the business of government went on.
393
00:18:48,583 --> 00:18:51,333
The President meeting with
Henry Cabot Lodge,
394
00:18:51,417 --> 00:18:53,583
our ambassador to Vietnam,
395
00:18:53,667 --> 00:18:55,042
and members of his cabinet.
396
00:18:55,292 --> 00:18:57,333
The major subject was Vietnam,
397
00:18:57,667 --> 00:19:00,583
a crisis that does not pause
for bereavement.
398
00:19:00,667 --> 00:19:04,458
And from this meeting, came affirmations
that the United States
399
00:19:04,542 --> 00:19:08,167
would continue its policy of aiding the
new government of Vietnam
400
00:19:08,250 --> 00:19:11,000
in its war against the
communist insurgents.
401
00:19:16,583 --> 00:19:17,458
Chief?
402
00:19:17,750 --> 00:19:18,833
David Ferrie.
403
00:19:20,708 --> 00:19:21,708
Come on in, Dave.
404
00:19:23,167 --> 00:19:24,208
Thank you for coming.
405
00:19:24,667 --> 00:19:26,083
You remember me,
Mr. Garrison?
406
00:19:26,500 --> 00:19:28,875
I met you on Carondelet Street,
right after your election.
407
00:19:28,958 --> 00:19:30,375
- I congratulated you, remember?
- How could I forget?
408
00:19:30,458 --> 00:19:32,208
You make quite a first impression.
409
00:19:32,833 --> 00:19:35,542
And I've heard over the years you're quite
a first-rate pilot, Dave.
410
00:19:35,833 --> 00:19:36,625
- Really?
- Yeah.
411
00:19:36,708 --> 00:19:39,625
Legend has it you can get in and out of
any field, no matter how small.
412
00:19:40,042 --> 00:19:41,792
- Huh.
- I'm a bit of a pilot myself.
413
00:19:41,875 --> 00:19:44,625
Flew grasshoppers for the field artillery
in the war.
414
00:19:45,750 --> 00:19:47,417
Here, have a seat.
Make yourself comfortable.
415
00:19:49,417 --> 00:19:50,875
Mind if I smoke,
Mr. Garrison?
416
00:19:51,542 --> 00:19:52,500
How could I?
417
00:19:53,875 --> 00:19:54,625
Dave,
as you know,
418
00:19:54,708 --> 00:19:57,167
President Kennedy
was assassinated on Friday.
419
00:19:57,250 --> 00:20:00,500
A man named Lee Harvey Oswald
was arrested as a suspect,
420
00:20:00,583 --> 00:20:04,042
and was then murdered, yesterday,
by a man named Jack Ruby.
421
00:20:04,708 --> 00:20:07,583
We've heard reports that Oswald spent the
summer here in New Orleans,
422
00:20:07,667 --> 00:20:10,042
and we've been advised that you knew
Oswald pretty well.
423
00:20:10,542 --> 00:20:12,292
I never met anybody named Oswald.
424
00:20:12,667 --> 00:20:14,333
Anybody that told you that
has to be crazy.
425
00:20:14,917 --> 00:20:17,042
But you are aware, he served in your
Civil Air Patrol unit
426
00:20:17,125 --> 00:20:19,083
- when he was a teenager?
427
00:20:19,167 --> 00:20:21,167
No. If he did,
I don't remember him.
428
00:20:21,917 --> 00:20:24,083
I mean, there were lots of boys in
and out, you know?
429
00:20:24,167 --> 00:20:25,750
Well,
I'm sure you've seen this.
430
00:20:25,833 --> 00:20:27,958
Perhaps you knew this man under
another name.
431
00:20:30,667 --> 00:20:32,625
No, I never saw him before
in my life.
432
00:20:34,333 --> 00:20:36,958
Well that must've been mistaken
information we got, then.
433
00:20:37,375 --> 00:20:39,000
Thanks for straightening it out
for us.
434
00:20:41,542 --> 00:20:43,958
There is one other matter
that's come up, Dave.
435
00:20:45,708 --> 00:20:48,083
We were told that you
took a trip to Texas
436
00:20:48,542 --> 00:20:50,792
shortly after the assassination
on Friday.
437
00:20:50,875 --> 00:20:52,417
Yeah, now that's true.
I drove to Houston.
438
00:20:53,042 --> 00:20:54,667
What was so appealing about Houston?
439
00:20:55,583 --> 00:20:57,917
I hadn't been there ice skating in many
years and I was with
440
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,458
a couple of young friends and we decided
we wanted to go ice skating.
441
00:21:01,542 --> 00:21:03,125
- Dave, may I ask why the urge
442
00:21:03,208 --> 00:21:04,958
to go ice skating in Texas happened
to strike you
443
00:21:05,042 --> 00:21:07,833
during one of the most violent
thunderstorms in recent memory?
444
00:21:09,542 --> 00:21:10,292
Uh...
445
00:21:10,417 --> 00:21:12,083
spur-of-the-moment thing.
446
00:21:12,250 --> 00:21:14,000
- Storm wasn't that bad.
- I see.
447
00:21:16,125 --> 00:21:17,083
And where did you drive?
448
00:21:17,708 --> 00:21:18,875
Uh,
we went to Houston...
449
00:21:19,542 --> 00:21:21,500
then Saturday night drove to Galveston
450
00:21:21,583 --> 00:21:22,542
and stayed over there.
451
00:21:22,792 --> 00:21:23,833
And then Sunday?
452
00:21:25,208 --> 00:21:26,667
In the morning,
we went goose hunting.
453
00:21:28,125 --> 00:21:29,750
You bag any geese on this trip?
454
00:21:30,292 --> 00:21:31,667
I believe the boys got a couple.
455
00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,792
But the boys told us
they didn't get any.
456
00:21:37,667 --> 00:21:39,000
Come to think of it,
they're right.
457
00:21:39,083 --> 00:21:41,042
We got out there,
where the geese were,
458
00:21:41,125 --> 00:21:42,750
and there were thousands of them,
all over the place.
459
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,333
But, uh,
you couldn't approach ‘em.
460
00:21:45,667 --> 00:21:46,917
They're a wise bunch of birds.
461
00:21:48,250 --> 00:21:51,542
Your young friends also told us you had
no weapons in the car, Dave.
462
00:21:51,667 --> 00:21:54,250
Isn't it a bit difficult to hunt for
geese without a shotgun?
463
00:21:54,333 --> 00:21:55,125
Well...
464
00:22:00,083 --> 00:22:01,667
Yes,
I remember now.
465
00:22:01,750 --> 00:22:03,833
I'm sorry, Mr. Garrison.
I got confused.
466
00:22:04,167 --> 00:22:05,458
We got out near the geese,
467
00:22:05,708 --> 00:22:08,625
and only then did we realize we had
forgotten our shotguns.
468
00:22:09,542 --> 00:22:10,583
Stupid, right?
469
00:22:11,667 --> 00:22:14,250
Uh, so, of course,
we didn't get any geese.
470
00:22:15,417 --> 00:22:17,625
I see, Dave.
Well, thank you for your time.
471
00:22:18,583 --> 00:22:20,917
I'm sorry that this has to end
inconveniently for you,
472
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,208
but I'm going to have to detain you for
further questioning by the FBI.
473
00:22:25,167 --> 00:22:26,167
Why, what's wrong?
474
00:22:26,500 --> 00:22:28,917
Dave, I find your story simply
not believable.
475
00:22:30,333 --> 00:22:31,125
Really?
476
00:22:31,458 --> 00:22:32,500
Come on.
477
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,000
What part?
478
00:22:56,167 --> 00:22:58,667
Gentlemen,
this afternoon the FBI released
479
00:22:58,750 --> 00:23:01,375
David W. Ferrie of New Orleans.
480
00:23:01,458 --> 00:23:04,750
After extensive questioning
and a thorough background check,
481
00:23:04,833 --> 00:23:07,708
the Bureau found no evidence that
Mr. Ferrie
482
00:23:07,792 --> 00:23:10,083
- knew Lee Harvey Oswald,
483
00:23:10,167 --> 00:23:14,000
or has had any connection with
the assassination of President Kennedy.
484
00:23:14,417 --> 00:23:17,125
The special agent in
charge would like to make clear
485
00:23:17,875 --> 00:23:20,458
that Mr. Ferrie was brought in
for questioning
486
00:23:20,542 --> 00:23:24,083
by the District Attorney of
Orleans Parish, not by
487
00:23:24,167 --> 00:23:26,458
- the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
- I thought we were on the same side.
488
00:23:26,542 --> 00:23:28,417
What the hell business is it of theirs
to say that?
489
00:23:28,583 --> 00:23:30,833
Pretty fast, wasn't it?
The way they let him go.
490
00:23:31,708 --> 00:23:33,375
They must know something
we don't.
491
00:23:34,958 --> 00:23:36,708
So let's get on with our lives,
gentlemen.
492
00:23:37,792 --> 00:23:39,542
We got plenty of
home-grown crimes
493
00:23:39,625 --> 00:23:40,792
- to prosecute.
- President Johnson
494
00:23:40,875 --> 00:23:42,458
- has announced the creation of
495
00:23:42,542 --> 00:23:44,375
- a Blue Ribbon Presidential Commission
496
00:23:44,458 --> 00:23:45,917
- to probe the events in Dallas.
- Goodnight.
497
00:23:46,292 --> 00:23:48,167
The Commission will be headed by
Chief Justice
498
00:23:48,250 --> 00:23:50,708
of the United States Supreme Court,
Earl Warren,
499
00:23:50,792 --> 00:23:53,125
and is expected to head off
several Congressional
500
00:23:53,208 --> 00:23:55,458
and Texas inquiries into the
assassination.
501
00:23:55,542 --> 00:23:59,042
On the panel are Allen Dulles,
ex-chief of the CIA,
502
00:23:59,125 --> 00:24:00,375
Representative Gerald Ford,
503
00:24:01,542 --> 00:24:02,292
John J. McCloy,
504
00:24:02,375 --> 00:24:04,000
former head of the Chase
Manhattan Bank...
505
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,542
Fucking out of control.
506
00:24:08,875 --> 00:24:11,625
All these hippies running around
on drugs.
507
00:24:12,208 --> 00:24:13,250
The way young people look,
508
00:24:13,333 --> 00:24:15,792
you can't tell a boy from a girl
anymore.
509
00:24:16,083 --> 00:24:17,625
I saw a girl the other day.
510
00:24:17,708 --> 00:24:18,833
She was pregnant.
511
00:24:18,917 --> 00:24:20,667
You could see her whole belly.
512
00:24:21,083 --> 00:24:23,042
And you know what she had
painted on it?
513
00:24:23,417 --> 00:24:25,000
"Love Child."
514
00:24:29,375 --> 00:24:31,375
Oh, it's a mess down there,
Jim.
515
00:24:32,458 --> 00:24:35,417
We've bitten off more Vietnam than we can
possibly chew.
516
00:24:35,833 --> 00:24:39,292
‘Course it figures with that polecat
Lyndon in the White House.
517
00:24:41,125 --> 00:24:43,625
You know, I sometimes think things
have gone downhill
518
00:24:43,708 --> 00:24:45,500
since John Kennedy died,
Senator.
519
00:24:46,083 --> 00:24:47,750
Oh, don't get me started on that.
520
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,750
Those Warren Commission fellas were
picking gnat shit out of pepper.
521
00:24:52,333 --> 00:24:54,792
Nobody's gonna tell me that kid did the
shooting job he did
522
00:24:54,875 --> 00:24:56,208
from that damn bookstore.
523
00:24:56,792 --> 00:24:59,083
- Here you go, Senator Long.
- Oh, thank you, honey.
524
00:24:59,167 --> 00:25:02,125
I thought the FBI test-fired the rifle to
see if it could be done?
525
00:25:02,458 --> 00:25:05,250
Sure, three experts,
and not one of them could do it.
526
00:25:05,875 --> 00:25:08,667
They're telling us that Oswald
got off three shots
527
00:25:08,750 --> 00:25:12,458
with world-class precision
from a manual bolt-action rifle
528
00:25:12,542 --> 00:25:14,333
in less than six seconds,
529
00:25:14,417 --> 00:25:15,875
and, according to his
Marine buddies,
530
00:25:15,958 --> 00:25:17,542
he got Maggie's drawers.
531
00:25:17,958 --> 00:25:19,000
You know what that means?
532
00:25:19,083 --> 00:25:20,167
He wasn't any good.
533
00:25:20,750 --> 00:25:22,875
Average man would be lucky to get
two shots off.
534
00:25:22,958 --> 00:25:24,583
- And I tell ya, the first shot
535
00:25:24,667 --> 00:25:26,292
- would always be the best.
536
00:25:26,375 --> 00:25:28,458
- Here, the third shot's perfect.
537
00:25:28,542 --> 00:25:31,542
Then they got that crazy bullet
zigzagging all over the place,
538
00:25:31,625 --> 00:25:34,292
so it hits Kennedy and Connally
seven times.
539
00:25:34,625 --> 00:25:35,375
Ah.
540
00:25:35,458 --> 00:25:36,542
One pristine bullet?
541
00:25:36,625 --> 00:25:38,000
That dog don't hunt.
542
00:25:41,250 --> 00:25:44,417
You know, something's always bothered me
about that from day one, too.
543
00:25:44,500 --> 00:25:45,792
Legal representation.
544
00:25:45,875 --> 00:25:47,542
Do you think there were other men
involved, Russell?
545
00:25:49,042 --> 00:25:50,625
If I were investigating the case,
546
00:25:50,708 --> 00:25:53,500
I'd round up 100 of the world's
best riflemen,
547
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,417
find out which ones were in Dallas
that day.
548
00:25:56,750 --> 00:25:57,917
- You been duck hunting?
549
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,375
I think Oswald's a good,
old-fashioned decoy.
550
00:26:00,458 --> 00:26:02,542
What'd he say?
"I'm just a patsy.”
551
00:26:02,625 --> 00:26:03,833
You better believe it.
552
00:26:12,542 --> 00:26:13,458
Jim?
553
00:26:14,125 --> 00:26:15,042
Honey?
554
00:26:15,625 --> 00:26:17,500
Dinner's just about ready.
555
00:26:19,417 --> 00:26:21,042
Got a surprise for you tonight.
556
00:26:22,042 --> 00:26:23,292
Tried something new.
557
00:26:25,208 --> 00:26:26,167
Jim?
558
00:26:28,417 --> 00:26:29,750
- Jim?
- What?
559
00:26:29,917 --> 00:26:30,875
Dinner.
560
00:26:32,375 --> 00:26:35,750
Smells good, but, honey, do you realize
that Oswald was interrogated
561
00:26:35,833 --> 00:26:39,167
for 12 hours after the assassination
with no lawyer present,
562
00:26:39,250 --> 00:26:41,958
and nobody--
nobody recorded a word of it?
563
00:26:42,542 --> 00:26:44,333
- Huh.
- I can't believe it.
564
00:26:44,667 --> 00:26:47,542
A police captain with 30 years experience
and a crowd of federal agents
565
00:26:47,625 --> 00:26:49,417
just had to know that with no record
566
00:26:49,500 --> 00:26:52,375
anything that Oswald says is gonna be
inadmissible in court.
567
00:26:52,458 --> 00:26:54,333
Well, honey, why don't we talk about it
at the dinner table.
568
00:26:54,417 --> 00:26:55,333
It's getting cold.
569
00:26:55,417 --> 00:26:57,542
Jasper,
what are you doing in here?
570
00:26:57,625 --> 00:27:00,417
Daddy said it was all right if I was
real quiet.
571
00:27:00,500 --> 00:27:01,375
Sure, it is.
572
00:27:01,667 --> 00:27:04,708
Honey, if I ever handled a minor felon
like that, it'd be all over the papers.
573
00:27:04,792 --> 00:27:06,583
And this is the alleged murderer of
the president!
574
00:27:11,625 --> 00:27:13,167
- Do you really think so?
575
00:27:13,250 --> 00:27:14,625
- Yeah. Again and again,
576
00:27:14,708 --> 00:27:17,167
- credible testimony is ignored,
577
00:27:17,250 --> 00:27:20,333
leads are never followed up,
its conclusions selective,
578
00:27:20,917 --> 00:27:22,875
there's no index,
it's one of the sloppiest,
579
00:27:22,958 --> 00:27:25,875
most disorganized investigations
I've ever seen.
580
00:27:26,500 --> 00:27:29,333
You know, dozens and dozens of witnesses
in Dealey Plaza that day
581
00:27:29,417 --> 00:27:32,042
are saying they heard shots coming from
the grassy knoll area
582
00:27:32,125 --> 00:27:35,333
in front of Kennedy,
not the book depository behind him,
583
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,292
but it's all broken down
and spread around,
584
00:27:38,375 --> 00:27:40,333
and you read it and the point
gets lost.
585
00:27:40,875 --> 00:27:42,292
I never did believe it.
586
00:27:43,083 --> 00:27:45,667
Mattie, I'll do the dishes.
You take Eb on up.
587
00:27:46,250 --> 00:27:47,125
Night, baby.
588
00:27:47,208 --> 00:27:49,583
Elizabeth,
honey, your bedtime, too.
589
00:27:49,792 --> 00:27:51,625
Honey,
that was three years ago.
590
00:27:51,708 --> 00:27:53,750
We've all tried so hard to put it
out of our minds,
591
00:27:53,833 --> 00:27:55,833
you just keep digging it up
again.
592
00:27:56,250 --> 00:27:57,875
You're the DA of New Orleans.
593
00:27:58,375 --> 00:28:01,208
Don't you think the Kennedy assassination
is a little bit out of your domain?
594
00:28:02,292 --> 00:28:04,500
I mean all those important people
already studied it.
595
00:28:04,583 --> 00:28:07,208
All right, I just can't believe a man as
intelligent as Earl Warren
596
00:28:07,292 --> 00:28:09,125
ever read what was in
those volumes.
597
00:28:09,500 --> 00:28:10,333
Well...
598
00:28:10,417 --> 00:28:12,042
I mean,
maybe you're right.
599
00:28:12,583 --> 00:28:14,708
I'll give you one hour to solve
the case,
600
00:28:15,125 --> 00:28:17,167
till I can get these kids in bed,
601
00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:19,375
and then you're mine,
602
00:28:19,542 --> 00:28:21,583
and Mr. Kennedy will have to wait
until morning.
603
00:28:26,833 --> 00:28:28,875
Daddy,
look what I drew.
604
00:28:29,667 --> 00:28:31,333
Well that's something, Jasper.
What is it?
605
00:28:31,417 --> 00:28:33,625
- It's a rhino in a cage.
- Mm-hmm.
606
00:28:33,708 --> 00:28:36,625
- Can I stay up another hour?
- I don't think so, son.
607
00:28:36,708 --> 00:28:38,250
- Aw, Papa.
- Pickle and Snapper.
608
00:28:38,333 --> 00:28:41,292
My two favorite dancing partners.
609
00:28:41,417 --> 00:28:43,417
- All right. Goodnight, doodle bugs.
610
00:28:43,792 --> 00:28:45,792
- Goodnight.
- One hour, you hear?
611
00:28:46,292 --> 00:28:48,458
- Hmm?
- Some Saturday night date you are.
612
00:28:49,292 --> 00:28:53,000
Mama warned me this would happen if I
married such a serious man as you.
613
00:28:53,083 --> 00:28:54,500
- Oh, she did, huh?
- Mm-hmm.
614
00:28:54,583 --> 00:28:55,375
Well,
when I come up,
615
00:28:55,458 --> 00:28:57,333
I want to show you how Saturday
night got invented.
616
00:28:57,417 --> 00:28:58,167
All right?
617
00:29:22,542 --> 00:29:23,958
I sealed off the area,
618
00:29:24,042 --> 00:29:26,833
and I held off the trains until they
could be examined,
619
00:29:27,333 --> 00:29:30,792
and there were some transients taken
on at least one train.
620
00:29:32,417 --> 00:29:35,000
Mr. Bowers,
I believe you already talked to us
621
00:29:35,083 --> 00:29:37,750
about this matter before your deposition,
is that correct?
622
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,208
Yes.
623
00:29:39,333 --> 00:29:41,542
Now, is there anything else you told us
624
00:29:41,625 --> 00:29:44,542
that I haven't asked you about
that you can think of?
625
00:29:46,083 --> 00:29:47,792
Nothing that I can recall.
626
00:29:48,917 --> 00:29:50,375
Witness is excused.
627
00:29:52,250 --> 00:29:53,958
Well, we got a long freight
that was in there.
628
00:29:54,042 --> 00:29:56,000
We pulled some people off there
and took them to the station.
629
00:30:00,583 --> 00:30:01,958
Do you mean some transients?
630
00:30:02,625 --> 00:30:03,917
Tramps and hoboes.
631
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:05,375
And were all those questioned?
632
00:30:05,833 --> 00:30:07,792
Yes, sir, they were taken to
the station and questioned.
633
00:30:08,292 --> 00:30:09,125
And?
634
00:30:09,208 --> 00:30:11,625
Ask the question, ask the question.
635
00:30:11,708 --> 00:30:14,042
All right, let's go back
to that Amos Euins matter.
636
00:30:14,250 --> 00:30:15,125
Uh, yes, sir.
637
00:30:15,792 --> 00:30:19,625
Traffic had been cut off into the area
since about 10:00,
638
00:30:19,792 --> 00:30:25,250
but there were three cars that came in
during this time, from around noon
639
00:30:25,333 --> 00:30:26,917
- till the time of the shooting.
640
00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:30,375
The cars circled the parking lot
and left,
641
00:30:30,458 --> 00:30:32,417
like they was checking the area.
642
00:30:34,042 --> 00:30:38,500
And one of the drivers seemed to have
something he was holding up to his mouth.
643
00:30:40,292 --> 00:30:46,500
That last car came in about seven to 10
minutes before the shooting.
644
00:30:46,958 --> 00:30:50,958
It was a white Chevrolet,
four-door Impala,
645
00:30:51,042 --> 00:30:52,542
muddy up to the windows.
646
00:30:53,667 --> 00:30:56,458
Um...
towards the underpass,
647
00:30:56,542 --> 00:30:57,833
I saw two men.
648
00:30:57,917 --> 00:31:00,417
They were standing behind
a picket fence.
649
00:31:00,958 --> 00:31:03,083
They were looking up towards Main
and Houston,
650
00:31:03,167 --> 00:31:05,417
- following the caravan as it came down.
651
00:31:06,375 --> 00:31:10,583
Uh... one of them was middle-aged,
heavyset.
652
00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:13,042
The other man was younger.
653
00:31:14,042 --> 00:31:15,042
There were two other men.
654
00:31:15,125 --> 00:31:17,375
They were on the eastern end of
the parking lot,
655
00:31:17,458 --> 00:31:19,917
- and each of them had uniforms.
656
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,583
At the time of the shooting,
there seemed to be some
657
00:31:24,667 --> 00:31:25,875
commotion.
658
00:31:27,292 --> 00:31:29,917
I just am unable to describe...
659
00:31:31,250 --> 00:31:33,167
- A flash of light or smoke or...
660
00:31:33,250 --> 00:31:34,875
- something...
661
00:31:34,958 --> 00:31:36,542
- which caused me to feel that
662
00:31:36,625 --> 00:31:39,292
something out of the ordinary
had occurred there,
663
00:31:39,375 --> 00:31:40,708
- on the embankment.
664
00:31:40,792 --> 00:31:41,875
Goddamn.
665
00:31:59,083 --> 00:31:59,917
No!
666
00:32:02,542 --> 00:32:03,292
Jim?
667
00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:07,792
- You all right?
- Oh, honey, it's incredible.
668
00:32:08,833 --> 00:32:09,833
What?
669
00:32:10,625 --> 00:32:11,792
The whole thing.
670
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,208
A lieutenant colonel testifies that
671
00:32:15,292 --> 00:32:19,375
Lee Oswald was given a Russian language
exam as part of his Marine training
672
00:32:19,458 --> 00:32:20,875
- only a few months before he defects
673
00:32:20,958 --> 00:32:22,292
to the Soviet Union.
674
00:32:22,792 --> 00:32:24,458
- A Russian exam!
- I can't believe it.
675
00:32:24,708 --> 00:32:27,250
Honey,
it's 4:30 in the morning!
676
00:32:27,667 --> 00:32:28,583
I have five kids
677
00:32:28,667 --> 00:32:30,917
- gonna be awake in an hour and--
- Honey, in all my years in the military,
678
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,500
I never knew a single man who was given
a Russian test.
679
00:32:35,083 --> 00:32:37,208
Oswald was a radar operator.
He--
680
00:32:37,542 --> 00:32:39,250
He'd have about as much use for--
681
00:32:39,333 --> 00:32:42,125
- for Russian as a cat has for pajamas.
- These books...
682
00:32:42,208 --> 00:32:44,167
have gotten to your mind,
Mr. Garrison.
683
00:32:44,250 --> 00:32:45,167
And then this-- this colonel.
684
00:32:45,250 --> 00:32:47,500
- He makes it sound like nothing, he says
- I wish you'd stop reading them.
685
00:32:47,583 --> 00:32:49,833
- Oswald did badly on his test. He--
686
00:32:49,917 --> 00:32:53,250
he got only two more Russian words
right than wrong.
687
00:32:53,542 --> 00:32:55,750
- Ha! That's like me saying Touchdown here
688
00:32:55,833 --> 00:32:59,208
is not very intelligent because I beat him
three games out of five
689
00:32:59,292 --> 00:33:01,125
the last time we played chess.
690
00:33:01,208 --> 00:33:02,792
What? Are you gonna...
691
00:33:02,875 --> 00:33:05,500
stay up all night every night,
for what?
692
00:33:05,583 --> 00:33:08,958
So you'll be the only man in America
that's read all 26 volumes
693
00:33:09,042 --> 00:33:11,125
- of the Warren Report?
- Do I have to spell it out for you?
694
00:33:12,542 --> 00:33:15,083
Lee Oswald was no ordinary soldier,
he was--
695
00:33:16,208 --> 00:33:17,667
He was probably in military
intelligence.
696
00:33:17,750 --> 00:33:19,042
That's why he was trained
in Russian.
697
00:33:19,125 --> 00:33:21,083
- Let's go back to sleep.
- There's no accident he's in Russia.
698
00:33:21,167 --> 00:33:22,458
Let's go back to sleep.
699
00:33:22,542 --> 00:33:25,375
Goddammit, dear,
I've been sleeping for three years!
700
00:33:43,375 --> 00:33:44,458
Morning, boys.
701
00:33:44,875 --> 00:33:46,083
Ready for a walking tour?
702
00:33:46,167 --> 00:33:47,375
7:30 Sunday morning.
703
00:33:47,458 --> 00:33:49,875
It's not exactly fresh blood we're
sniffing here, boss.
704
00:33:50,125 --> 00:33:52,042
Old stains, Bill,
but just as telling.
705
00:34:00,125 --> 00:34:01,875
531 Lafayette Street.
706
00:34:02,708 --> 00:34:04,833
Remember whose office this was
in '63?
707
00:34:06,458 --> 00:34:08,125
Sure, Guy Banister.
708
00:34:08,833 --> 00:34:10,167
Ex-FBI man.
709
00:34:10,625 --> 00:34:11,917
Died couple years ago.
710
00:34:14,333 --> 00:34:16,375
Banister headed the Chicago office.
711
00:34:16,458 --> 00:34:18,542
When he retired,
he became a private eye here.
712
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,333
I used to have lunch with him.
713
00:34:20,667 --> 00:34:22,375
John Birch Society,
Minutemen.
714
00:34:22,458 --> 00:34:25,333
- Oh yeah, I remember him now.
- Slightly to the right of Attila the Hun.
715
00:34:25,417 --> 00:34:26,750
He used to recruit college students
716
00:34:26,833 --> 00:34:29,375
to infiltrate radical organizations
on campus.
717
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:32,625
Headed the Anti-Communist League
of the Caribbean.
718
00:34:33,583 --> 00:34:34,833
All out of this office.
719
00:34:38,708 --> 00:34:40,250
Come around here,
I want to show you something.
720
00:34:45,417 --> 00:34:46,375
See that?
721
00:34:48,875 --> 00:34:50,208
Now, take a look here.
722
00:34:51,042 --> 00:34:52,833
544 Camp Street.
723
00:34:53,833 --> 00:34:55,708
531 Lafayette Street.
724
00:34:56,458 --> 00:34:57,583
Same building, right?
725
00:34:58,417 --> 00:35:00,750
But with different addresses and
different entrances,
726
00:35:00,833 --> 00:35:02,375
both going to the same place,
727
00:35:02,792 --> 00:35:04,333
to the office upstairs.
728
00:35:05,333 --> 00:35:06,750
Guess who used this address?
729
00:35:09,292 --> 00:35:10,750
Lee Harvey Oswald.
730
00:35:12,250 --> 00:35:13,875
Now how do we know he was here?
731
00:35:14,458 --> 00:35:16,000
‘Cause this office address
was stamped
732
00:35:16,083 --> 00:35:17,583
on the pro-Castro leaflets
733
00:35:17,667 --> 00:35:19,417
he was handing out in the summer
of '63
734
00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:20,792
down on Canal Street.
735
00:35:21,417 --> 00:35:24,042
Now these are the same leaflets they found
in his garage in Dallas.
736
00:35:24,125 --> 00:35:25,208
What's this?
737
00:35:25,458 --> 00:35:27,292
What the hell is this doing on
this piece of paper?
738
00:35:27,375 --> 00:35:29,458
After the arrest, 544 Camp Street
739
00:35:29,542 --> 00:35:31,292
never appeared on the pamphlets again.
740
00:35:31,375 --> 00:35:32,500
Asshole.
741
00:35:32,750 --> 00:35:36,333
He was arrested that day for fighting with
some anti-Castro Cubans,
742
00:35:37,167 --> 00:35:38,500
but actually he had contacted them
743
00:35:38,583 --> 00:35:40,375
a few days earlier as an ex-Marine
744
00:35:40,458 --> 00:35:43,000
trying to join their anti-Castro
crusade.
745
00:35:43,625 --> 00:35:45,792
When they heard he was now
pro-Castro...
746
00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:48,000
well, they paid him a visit.
747
00:35:48,625 --> 00:35:49,833
What is this Fidel shit?
748
00:35:50,083 --> 00:35:51,958
You lied to me, you hypocrite!
749
00:35:52,417 --> 00:35:53,750
Liar!
Son of a bitch!
750
00:35:54,583 --> 00:35:55,750
People,
do not take this paper.
751
00:35:55,833 --> 00:35:57,458
This is communist propaganda.
752
00:35:57,917 --> 00:36:00,042
Carlos,
if you want to hit me, hit me.
753
00:36:00,125 --> 00:36:01,750
Come on, you pinko shit.
754
00:36:01,833 --> 00:36:03,458
Go back to Moscow, communist!
755
00:36:03,542 --> 00:36:05,125
- There was no real fight,
756
00:36:05,417 --> 00:36:08,833
and the arresting lieutenant later said
he felt it was a staged incident.
757
00:36:08,917 --> 00:36:09,917
- Break it up!
758
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,208
In jail, Oswald has a private session
759
00:36:12,292 --> 00:36:14,917
with Special Agent John Quigley
of the FBI.
760
00:36:16,208 --> 00:36:17,542
Oswald is released,
761
00:36:17,792 --> 00:36:20,208
and Quigley destroys his notes from
the interview.
762
00:36:21,083 --> 00:36:23,875
The arrest gets him a lot of publicity
and as a result...
763
00:36:24,333 --> 00:36:26,875
Oswald appears on a local
TV debate.
764
00:36:26,958 --> 00:36:29,083
But you-- you are a communist,
are you not?
765
00:36:29,167 --> 00:36:30,458
Uh, no,
Mr. Bringuier.
766
00:36:30,792 --> 00:36:33,125
Uh, I am not a communist.
767
00:36:33,208 --> 00:36:34,500
I'm a Marxist-Leninist.
768
00:36:34,583 --> 00:36:36,958
You are not a communist,
but you are a Marxist-Leninist?
769
00:36:37,042 --> 00:36:38,083
What is the difference?
770
00:36:38,167 --> 00:36:39,292
Now, here's another one for you.
771
00:36:39,375 --> 00:36:40,917
What would you say
if I told you...
772
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,542
Lee Oswald was trained in the Russian
language when he was a Marine?
773
00:36:44,625 --> 00:36:46,792
I'd say he was probably getting
intelligence training.
774
00:36:46,875 --> 00:36:48,042
Well, Lou,
you were in the Marines.
775
00:36:48,125 --> 00:36:49,292
Who would be running
that training?
776
00:36:49,375 --> 00:36:50,917
Office of Naval Intelligence.
777
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,417
Take a look across the street.
778
00:36:54,500 --> 00:36:55,375
Post office.
779
00:36:56,167 --> 00:36:59,958
Upstairs in 1963, that was the
Office of Naval Intelligence.
780
00:37:00,292 --> 00:37:03,958
And just by coincidence, Banister,
before he was FBI, was ONI.
781
00:37:04,625 --> 00:37:06,083
And what's that little saying
they have?
782
00:37:06,333 --> 00:37:08,208
"Once ONI, always ONL."
783
00:37:08,500 --> 00:37:11,083
Well, he likes working near
his old pals.
784
00:37:12,292 --> 00:37:13,125
Bill...
785
00:37:14,542 --> 00:37:17,333
Lou, we are standing in the heart of the
United States government's
786
00:37:17,417 --> 00:37:19,750
intelligence community
in New Orleans.
787
00:37:20,292 --> 00:37:23,125
That's the FBI there, all right?
That's the CIA.
788
00:37:23,292 --> 00:37:24,833
That's the Secret Service.
789
00:37:24,917 --> 00:37:26,042
That's the ONI.
790
00:37:26,208 --> 00:37:27,417
Now, doesn't this seem to you...
791
00:37:27,500 --> 00:37:30,958
a rather strange place for a communist
to spend his spare time?
792
00:37:34,500 --> 00:37:35,958
What you driving at, boss?
793
00:37:39,542 --> 00:37:41,250
We're going back into the case,
Lou.
794
00:37:42,500 --> 00:37:43,792
Murder of the president.
795
00:37:44,250 --> 00:37:46,833
Good Lord,
wake me up, I must be dreaming.
796
00:37:46,917 --> 00:37:48,958
No, you're awake,
Bill, and I'm deadly serious.
797
00:37:49,458 --> 00:37:51,583
We're going to start by tracking down your
anonymous source
798
00:37:51,667 --> 00:37:52,583
from three years ago.
799
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,792
Now how'd you find out David Ferrie drove
to Texas that day?
800
00:37:56,292 --> 00:37:58,000
Hell, I can't remember last night,
801
00:37:58,083 --> 00:37:59,792
let alone three years ago,
boss.
802
00:38:04,667 --> 00:38:06,750
You're not under
cross-examination here, Jack.
803
00:38:06,833 --> 00:38:09,125
What I need is a little clarification
about the night
804
00:38:09,208 --> 00:38:11,000
- Guy Banister beat you over the head.
805
00:38:11,667 --> 00:38:13,625
Now don't tell me you don't
remember that,
806
00:38:13,708 --> 00:38:15,292
all right,
‘cause you called our office.
807
00:38:15,375 --> 00:38:17,083
You called our office from your
hospital bed,
808
00:38:17,167 --> 00:38:18,833
and you were hopping mad
about it.
809
00:38:19,792 --> 00:38:21,125
Now, here's my problem.
810
00:38:21,917 --> 00:38:24,667
You told me you and Guy were good
friends for a long time.
811
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,500
More than 10 years.
812
00:38:26,583 --> 00:38:29,167
- And he never hit you before?
- No, he never touched me.
813
00:38:30,250 --> 00:38:32,667
Yet on November 22nd, 1963,
814
00:38:32,750 --> 00:38:34,042
- the day of the president's murder,
815
00:38:34,125 --> 00:38:36,417
- the police report says...
816
00:38:37,542 --> 00:38:40,750
Says he pistol-whipped you with a
.357 Magnum.
817
00:38:41,375 --> 00:38:43,958
It also says you had an argument about
the phone bill.
818
00:38:44,042 --> 00:38:45,875
- Here, take a look at it.
819
00:38:45,958 --> 00:38:48,333
Well, does a simple argument over a
phone bill sound like
820
00:38:48,417 --> 00:38:50,042
a believable explanation
to you?
821
00:38:53,250 --> 00:38:54,708
There's more to it than that.
822
00:38:56,250 --> 00:38:57,292
How much more?
823
00:38:57,833 --> 00:38:59,583
I don't think I should talk about it.
824
00:38:59,667 --> 00:39:01,625
Well, I'd ask Guy,
we were friendly, you know.
825
00:39:01,875 --> 00:39:03,083
Heart attack, wasn't it?
826
00:39:03,583 --> 00:39:05,458
You buy what you read in
the papers.
827
00:39:05,625 --> 00:39:06,667
You have other information?
828
00:39:06,750 --> 00:39:08,375
- I didn't say that.
- You have other information?
829
00:39:08,458 --> 00:39:11,208
I didn't say that. All I know is that
he died suddenly.
830
00:39:11,958 --> 00:39:14,292
Just before the Warren Report
came out.
831
00:39:16,250 --> 00:39:17,625
Why did Guy beat you,
Jack?
832
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,583
You didn't see a goddamn thing!
You didn't see a goddamn thing!
833
00:39:26,125 --> 00:39:27,333
You're the only one in the place!
834
00:39:34,042 --> 00:39:36,167
You didn't see a goddamn thing!
835
00:39:36,792 --> 00:39:39,667
Oh, hell. I guess since Guy's dead,
it don't matter no more.
836
00:39:39,750 --> 00:39:41,958
It was about all those...
837
00:39:42,042 --> 00:39:45,458
people that was hanging around the office
that summer.
838
00:39:46,458 --> 00:39:48,833
See, I was never part of the operation,
you know.
839
00:39:48,917 --> 00:39:51,042
I was just there taking care of their
private eye work,
840
00:39:51,125 --> 00:39:52,708
you know,
as it came in for Guy.
841
00:39:52,792 --> 00:39:55,000
Not much did,
but that's why I was there.
842
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:58,833
It was a nuthouse.
843
00:39:59,833 --> 00:40:02,042
All the Cubans coming and going.
844
00:40:02,125 --> 00:40:04,417
I mean, Christ,
they all looked the same to me.
845
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:08,083
You gonna play with this rifle or you
gonna pack it? Come on.
846
00:40:08,583 --> 00:40:10,125
Dave Ferrie.
847
00:40:10,292 --> 00:40:11,292
You know about him?
848
00:40:11,750 --> 00:40:13,833
- Yeah, we know Dave. Was he there?
- Mmm.
849
00:40:13,917 --> 00:40:15,208
Christ, he practically lived there.
850
00:40:15,292 --> 00:40:16,833
Don't fuck this one up.
851
00:40:18,167 --> 00:40:20,583
See, the whole thing it was...
852
00:40:20,667 --> 00:40:22,875
the whole cloak and dagger stuff,
you know.
853
00:40:22,958 --> 00:40:25,042
They called it
"Operation Mongoose."
854
00:40:26,958 --> 00:40:29,667
Whole idea was they were gonna train
these Cuban exiles, you know,
855
00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:31,833
- for another invasion of Cuba.
- Mm-hmm.
856
00:40:31,917 --> 00:40:33,125
Why, hell, Banister's office,
857
00:40:33,208 --> 00:40:35,125
that was part of the supply line,
you know,
858
00:40:35,208 --> 00:40:36,833
from Dallas through New Orleans
to Miami.
859
00:40:36,917 --> 00:40:39,500
- They were stockpiling arms, explosives.
860
00:40:39,750 --> 00:40:41,958
All this right under the noses of
the intelligence community
861
00:40:42,042 --> 00:40:44,125
- in Lafayette Square?
- Yeah, oh yeah.
862
00:40:44,208 --> 00:40:45,750
Everybody knew everybody,
you know,
863
00:40:45,833 --> 00:40:47,458
they were all part of
the network.
864
00:40:47,875 --> 00:40:50,417
They were all working for
the CIA!
865
00:40:50,500 --> 00:40:53,000
You know, pilots,
and them Black Operators,
866
00:40:53,083 --> 00:40:55,542
and the-- the civilians,
and military.
867
00:40:55,625 --> 00:40:58,542
Hell, everybody in those days was
running guns somewhere.
868
00:40:59,083 --> 00:41:02,500
Fort Jefferson, Bayou Bluff,
Morgan City, you name it.
869
00:41:02,583 --> 00:41:05,417
Oh, McAllen, Texas,
yeah, big gun-running operation.
870
00:41:09,667 --> 00:41:12,083
Banister. Now, tell-- where--
Where does he fit in all this?
871
00:41:12,167 --> 00:41:14,625
He was running his camp up north
of Lake Pontchartrain.
872
00:41:14,708 --> 00:41:17,000
You know, Ferrie was doing a lot
of the training.
873
00:41:17,083 --> 00:41:18,958
- They had a shooting range.
874
00:41:19,167 --> 00:41:21,667
Lot of tropical territory, you know,
like you got in Cuba.
875
00:41:22,292 --> 00:41:24,125
- Some Americans were trained there, too.
876
00:41:24,208 --> 00:41:27,042
- A few. Nazi types, mercenaries.
877
00:41:27,792 --> 00:41:30,333
Ferrie, though,
Jesus, he was the craziest.
878
00:41:32,167 --> 00:41:33,500
Anyway,
late summer, the whole--
879
00:41:33,583 --> 00:41:34,792
the party was over.
880
00:41:34,875 --> 00:41:38,208
‘Cause Kennedy didn't want another one
of them Bay of Pigs, so he...
881
00:41:38,708 --> 00:41:40,833
- he told the FBI, "Shut up the camps,”
882
00:41:40,917 --> 00:41:44,250
you know, and confiscate the napalm,
C-4, and the stuff like that.
883
00:41:44,542 --> 00:41:45,917
So I think that the G-men,
884
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,042
they were just going through the motions
for Washington.
885
00:41:48,125 --> 00:41:52,083
See, their hearts were still with their
old FBI buddy Banister.
886
00:41:54,333 --> 00:41:55,208
Oswald?
887
00:41:59,042 --> 00:41:59,792
Yeah.
888
00:42:00,208 --> 00:42:01,875
- Yeah, what?
- He was there, too. He was there.
889
00:42:01,958 --> 00:42:04,875
He was there,
sometimes meeting with Banister.
890
00:42:05,208 --> 00:42:07,833
Give me an allowance, you know,
because I got expenses...
891
00:42:08,167 --> 00:42:09,333
With the door shut.
892
00:42:11,333 --> 00:42:12,417
Other times...
893
00:42:12,500 --> 00:42:14,917
you know,
shooting the bull with Ferrie,
894
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,458
whatever,
but he was there, all right.
895
00:42:16,750 --> 00:42:18,667
Anything more specific,
Jack?
896
00:42:19,125 --> 00:42:20,208
It's important.
897
00:42:24,083 --> 00:42:27,042
One time the secretary got upset,
I remember.
898
00:42:27,125 --> 00:42:28,417
I can't believe it,
Mr. Banister.
899
00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:30,167
Lee Oswald is down on Canal Street
900
00:42:30,250 --> 00:42:32,958
handing out communist leaflets
supporting Castro.
901
00:42:38,083 --> 00:42:39,583
It's okay, Delphine.
902
00:42:39,667 --> 00:42:42,292
He's with us, it's okay.
903
00:42:43,417 --> 00:42:46,333
Was anyone else involved at
Banister's level?
904
00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:49,958
Oh, yeah. One guy, I don't know.
905
00:42:50,458 --> 00:42:52,250
Big, white hair.
906
00:42:53,167 --> 00:42:54,792
I saw him come in the office once,
907
00:42:54,875 --> 00:42:56,792
but he looked out of place.
908
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:58,792
You know,
like a society guy.
909
00:42:59,292 --> 00:43:01,667
And I can't remember his name,
but Oswald was with him.
910
00:43:04,125 --> 00:43:06,542
But he had something to do with money
‘cause Banister, you know,
911
00:43:06,625 --> 00:43:07,958
he never kissed anybody's ass--
912
00:43:08,042 --> 00:43:09,125
Ooh, he kissed his.
913
00:43:15,583 --> 00:43:17,250
I don't... uh...
914
00:43:17,333 --> 00:43:18,750
Clay something.
915
00:43:18,833 --> 00:43:20,208
Yeah.
That was his name, Clay.
916
00:43:20,292 --> 00:43:21,375
- Clay.
- Bertrand?
917
00:43:21,458 --> 00:43:23,042
- Bertrand, yeah! Yeah, that--
- Clay Bertrand.
918
00:43:23,125 --> 00:43:24,708
- Clay Bertrand.
- Well, I don't know.
919
00:43:24,792 --> 00:43:25,583
I don't know.
920
00:43:25,667 --> 00:43:27,583
- Uh... maybe not. I got to go.
- No, that's right. Clay Bertrand.
921
00:43:27,667 --> 00:43:29,125
- No, no. That's right.
- No, I got to go.
922
00:43:29,208 --> 00:43:31,542
He was in the Warren Report.
He got Oswald a lawyer.
923
00:43:32,625 --> 00:43:35,000
- Was Kennedy ever discussed, Jack?
- I don't know.
924
00:43:36,042 --> 00:43:37,792
- The assassination, Jack?
- No.
925
00:43:37,875 --> 00:43:38,917
Never. Not with me.
926
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,458
- Look, I've-- I got to go.
- Hold on.
927
00:43:40,542 --> 00:43:41,750
- That's all I'm gonna say.
- Hold on, Jack.
928
00:43:41,833 --> 00:43:43,083
- I've said enough.
- Hold on. What's the problem?
929
00:43:44,458 --> 00:43:46,125
- What's the problem?
- What's the problem?
930
00:43:47,208 --> 00:43:49,417
Do I have to spell it out for you,
Mr. Garrison?
931
00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:52,125
Nobody knows what we're talking
about, here, Jack.
932
00:43:53,667 --> 00:43:55,583
Oh, you are so naive.
933
00:44:05,833 --> 00:44:07,917
When'd you first do business
with this Bertrand?
934
00:44:08,250 --> 00:44:10,167
Pipe the bimbo in red.
935
00:44:10,250 --> 00:44:12,292
Mm-hmm. Lordy.
936
00:44:12,375 --> 00:44:13,375
Yeah, she's cute all right,
937
00:44:13,458 --> 00:44:15,000
- but not half as cute as you, Deano.
938
00:44:15,083 --> 00:44:16,042
Thank you.
939
00:44:16,125 --> 00:44:18,292
You should try a legitimate line
of business.
940
00:44:18,375 --> 00:44:20,292
Why are you dancing on my head for,
my man?
941
00:44:20,375 --> 00:44:22,417
We been thicker than molasses pie
since law school.
942
00:44:22,500 --> 00:44:24,208
‘Cause you keep conning me, Dean,
I read your testimony
943
00:44:24,292 --> 00:44:25,833
- to the Warren Commission--
- There you go again!
944
00:44:25,917 --> 00:44:27,333
- Grain of salt!
- You tell them the day after
945
00:44:27,417 --> 00:44:28,500
- Two sides to every coin!
- the assassination,
946
00:44:28,583 --> 00:44:30,375
you're called on the phone by this
Clay Bertrand
947
00:44:30,458 --> 00:44:32,917
and asked to fly to Dallas and be
Lee Oswald's lawyer.
948
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:33,750
Right.
949
00:44:34,667 --> 00:44:36,208
That's pretty important,
Dean.
950
00:44:36,917 --> 00:44:38,667
You also told the FBI that,
when you met him,
951
00:44:38,750 --> 00:44:39,625
he's six foot two,
952
00:44:39,708 --> 00:44:41,583
then you tell the Commission
he's five foot eight.
953
00:44:41,833 --> 00:44:44,000
Now how the hell does a man
shrink like that, Dean?
954
00:44:44,583 --> 00:44:47,208
They put the heat on,
my man, just like you're doing.
955
00:44:47,292 --> 00:44:49,667
I gave them anything that popped in
my cabeza.
956
00:44:49,833 --> 00:44:51,500
Truth is,
I never met the dude.
957
00:44:51,792 --> 00:44:54,917
Oh, wonderful.
One likes friends that have friends.
958
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:55,750
Indeed.
959
00:44:55,833 --> 00:44:57,083
I don't know what the cat
looks like,
960
00:44:57,167 --> 00:44:58,792
and, furthermore,
I don't know where he's at.
961
00:44:59,125 --> 00:45:01,958
All I know is sometimes he sends me
some cases.
962
00:45:02,125 --> 00:45:03,375
So one day he's on the phone,
963
00:45:03,458 --> 00:45:05,917
talking to me about going to Dallas,
repping Oswald.
964
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,667
Did you ever speak to Oswald
in Dallas?
965
00:45:07,750 --> 00:45:08,500
Hell, no.
966
00:45:08,583 --> 00:45:10,333
Like I told that Bertrand cat
right off--
967
00:45:10,417 --> 00:45:11,208
Cashew piece?
968
00:45:11,292 --> 00:45:12,292
This ain't my scene, man.
969
00:45:12,375 --> 00:45:14,625
I deal in muni court.
I'm a hack in nigger town.
970
00:45:14,708 --> 00:45:16,958
Then how'd the hell did your name get in
the Warren Commission, Dean?
971
00:45:17,500 --> 00:45:19,792
Like I told to the Washington boys,
972
00:45:19,875 --> 00:45:21,208
Bertrand called that summer
973
00:45:21,292 --> 00:45:23,917
and asked me to help the kid upgrade
his Marine discharge.
974
00:45:24,042 --> 00:45:25,875
Well, I was led to believe that, uh,
975
00:45:25,958 --> 00:45:28,500
Mr. Bertrand said that he would
take care of any--
976
00:45:28,583 --> 00:45:29,333
Oh, that's fine.
977
00:45:29,417 --> 00:45:30,625
Hello,
to whom am I speaking?
978
00:45:30,708 --> 00:45:33,208
I'm Clay Bertrand.
Whatever they owe, I guarantee.
979
00:45:33,292 --> 00:45:34,500
There wasn't no conspiracy, Jim.
980
00:45:34,583 --> 00:45:37,917
If there were, why the hell didn't Bobby
Kennedy prosecute it as attorney general?
981
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,625
He was his brother,
for Christ's sake.
982
00:45:40,542 --> 00:45:43,417
How the fuck all those people could keep
a secret like that, I don't know.
983
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,000
It was Oswald.
984
00:45:45,083 --> 00:45:46,625
- He was a fruitcake, you know.
- I think we're having
985
00:45:46,708 --> 00:45:47,958
- Hated this country.
- a communication problem, Dean.
986
00:45:48,042 --> 00:45:49,958
I know you know who Clay
Bertrand is, all right?
987
00:45:50,125 --> 00:45:52,667
Now stop eating that damn crabmeat
a minute and listen.
988
00:45:52,750 --> 00:45:54,208
I'm aware of our friendship...
989
00:45:54,917 --> 00:45:57,458
but I want you to know I'm gonna call you
in front of the grand jury.
990
00:45:57,958 --> 00:46:00,083
And you lie to the grand jury as
you've been lying to me,
991
00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:01,792
I'm gonna charge you
with perjury.
992
00:46:02,083 --> 00:46:04,958
All right, I took nine judges on right
here in New Orleans, Deano.
993
00:46:05,042 --> 00:46:05,792
I beat 'em all.
994
00:46:06,167 --> 00:46:07,875
So am I communicating with you?
995
00:46:09,708 --> 00:46:11,167
Is this off the record,
Daddy-0?
996
00:46:12,500 --> 00:46:13,250
Good.
997
00:46:13,333 --> 00:46:15,250
In that case,
let me sum it up for you real quick.
998
00:46:20,042 --> 00:46:22,250
If I answer that question you
keep asking...
999
00:46:23,667 --> 00:46:25,958
if I give you the name of the
big enchilada, you know...
1000
00:46:27,833 --> 00:46:29,292
then it's "bon voyage, Deano."
1001
00:46:29,375 --> 00:46:30,375
I mean like permanent.
1002
00:46:30,458 --> 00:46:32,500
I mean like a bullet in my head,
you dig?
1003
00:46:32,792 --> 00:46:34,625
You're a mouse fighting a gorilla.
1004
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,667
Kennedy is as dead as that crabmeat.
1005
00:46:37,125 --> 00:46:38,208
The government's still breathing.
1006
00:46:38,292 --> 00:46:40,208
- You wanna line up with a dead man?
- Read my lips, Deano.
1007
00:46:40,292 --> 00:46:43,458
Either you dance into the grand jury with
the real identity of Clay Bertrand
1008
00:46:43,542 --> 00:46:45,292
or your fat behind is going to
the slammer.
1009
00:46:45,375 --> 00:46:46,333
Now, do you dig me?
1010
00:46:46,417 --> 00:46:48,208
- You're as crazy as your mama.
1011
00:46:48,792 --> 00:46:50,125
Goes to show it's in the genes.
1012
00:46:50,458 --> 00:46:52,583
You have any idea what you're getting
yourself into, Daddy-o0?
1013
00:46:53,375 --> 00:46:56,000
The government's gonna jump all over
your head, Jimbo,
1014
00:46:56,167 --> 00:46:57,833
and go "cock-a-doodle-doo."
1015
00:46:58,417 --> 00:46:59,583
Good day to you, sir.
1016
00:47:05,292 --> 00:47:08,292
District Attorney
Garrison to see Prisoner 5388,
1017
00:47:08,833 --> 00:47:10,583
Ward Block 237B.
1018
00:47:24,250 --> 00:47:27,083
We don't need no gates out there
with that swamp.
1019
00:47:27,500 --> 00:47:29,750
Many of 'em gone in there,
ain't none of 'em come out.
1020
00:47:36,708 --> 00:47:37,458
Hey, Willie!
1021
00:47:38,083 --> 00:47:39,000
O'Keefe!
1022
00:47:45,042 --> 00:47:46,333
You got visitors here.
1023
00:47:46,500 --> 00:47:48,250
You don't give ‘em no trouble now,
you hear me boy?
1024
00:47:48,792 --> 00:47:51,125
- How you doing, Mr. Broussard?
- Hey, let's go, Willie.
1025
00:48:03,833 --> 00:48:06,167
I want to thank you,
Mr. O'Keefe, for this time.
1026
00:48:06,958 --> 00:48:09,083
I ain't got nothin' but time,
Mr. Garrison.
1027
00:48:09,417 --> 00:48:11,708
Minutes, hours, days, years of 'em.
1028
00:48:12,208 --> 00:48:14,250
Time just stands still here,
1029
00:48:14,333 --> 00:48:16,708
like a snake sunnin' itself on the road.
1030
00:48:17,083 --> 00:48:18,292
- Clay Bertrand, Willie?
1031
00:48:19,542 --> 00:48:20,542
Yeah, Clay.
1032
00:48:22,125 --> 00:48:27,583
I met him sometime in June of '62 at the
Masquerade Bar.
1033
00:48:27,958 --> 00:48:31,250
Dave Ferrie took me there,
for the express reason to meet him.
1034
00:48:31,333 --> 00:48:32,583
For sexual purposes?
1035
00:48:32,833 --> 00:48:33,708
Well, yeah.
1036
00:48:34,208 --> 00:48:35,583
Did he pay you for this?
1037
00:48:35,792 --> 00:48:37,667
Twenty dollars each time.
Hell, ain't no secret.
1038
00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:39,083
That's why I'm in here for.
1039
00:48:39,500 --> 00:48:41,750
Anything else unusual about him
you'd be able
1040
00:48:41,833 --> 00:48:43,375
- to describe in a court of law?
1041
00:48:43,458 --> 00:48:45,958
I remember he had some kinda
thing wrong with his leg.
1042
00:48:46,083 --> 00:48:47,833
He'd limp.
You know, don't get me wrong,
1043
00:48:47,917 --> 00:48:49,667
he's not one of those "limp wrists."
1044
00:48:49,917 --> 00:48:52,875
He's a butch John, I mean, you'd meet him
on the street, you'd never snap.
1045
00:48:52,958 --> 00:48:54,708
- You could play poker with him,
1046
00:48:54,792 --> 00:48:55,875
go fishing with the man,
1047
00:48:55,958 --> 00:48:57,625
you'd never snap in a million years.
1048
00:48:58,208 --> 00:49:00,708
One night we was over at Dave Ferrie's
place having a party.
1049
00:49:00,792 --> 00:49:03,917
It was sometime late in the
summer of '63.
1050
00:49:05,458 --> 00:49:08,625
There was about nine or 10
people there. Cubans.
1051
00:49:08,708 --> 00:49:11,625
You know, friends of Dave, been doing
some stuff in the bush with him.
1052
00:49:11,708 --> 00:49:14,625
Place was a mess, man.
Dave's mind was a mess.
1053
00:49:14,792 --> 00:49:18,125
Has all these mice cages all over ‘cause
he's working on this cure for cancer.
1054
00:49:18,458 --> 00:49:20,042
- Viva Cuba libre!
1055
00:49:20,125 --> 00:49:21,667
Dave's smart, though,
he's sharp.
1056
00:49:21,875 --> 00:49:23,250
Speaks five languages.
1057
00:49:23,458 --> 00:49:28,000
He knows philosophy, medicine,
military history, politics.
1058
00:49:28,625 --> 00:49:30,375
Said he wanted to be a priest but...
1059
00:49:30,708 --> 00:49:32,542
they defrocked him ‘cause
he was queer.
1060
00:49:32,792 --> 00:49:34,958
And that's where you met Oswald for
the first time?
1061
00:49:35,208 --> 00:49:36,875
- Yeah, strange guy.
1062
00:49:36,958 --> 00:49:38,250
Dave introduced him as...
1063
00:49:38,333 --> 00:49:39,875
Willie, why don't you say hello to
Leon Oswald.
1064
00:49:39,958 --> 00:49:41,042
Hey, how you doing, man?
1065
00:49:42,333 --> 00:49:43,750
What the fuck is he doing here?
1066
00:49:44,458 --> 00:49:45,875
Fuck you, motherfucker!
1067
00:49:45,958 --> 00:49:47,583
Okay, okay, come on, come on,
come on.
1068
00:49:47,667 --> 00:49:49,583
- Leon's in a bad mood.
1069
00:49:49,667 --> 00:49:51,208
Don't get excited,
he's all right.
1070
00:49:51,917 --> 00:49:54,667
Would you say that this "Leon" was
actually Lee Harvey Oswald?
1071
00:49:54,750 --> 00:49:55,500
Fuck yeah!
1072
00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:57,625
Hey, man,
I got no reason to lie to you.
1073
00:49:57,708 --> 00:49:59,167
I'm already in jail.
1074
00:49:59,750 --> 00:50:00,625
Go on, Willie.
1075
00:50:00,708 --> 00:50:02,042
Finally,
they got outta there,
1076
00:50:02,125 --> 00:50:04,542
and I found myself alone
with Dave
1077
00:50:04,625 --> 00:50:06,167
and this Leon,
1078
00:50:06,250 --> 00:50:07,333
two of the Cubans,
1079
00:50:07,417 --> 00:50:09,000
and this guy Bertrand.
1080
00:50:09,083 --> 00:50:09,917
Kennedy.
1081
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:11,125
- Kennedy.
- Dave pulled out these clippings
1082
00:50:11,208 --> 00:50:12,625
- Kennedy, fuckin' Kennedy!
- he'd been carrying around, you know...
1083
00:50:12,708 --> 00:50:14,042
- He fucked us
- He'd been obsessed with Castro
1084
00:50:14,125 --> 00:50:15,333
- in '61 and '62
- and Kennedy for months.
1085
00:50:15,417 --> 00:50:16,917
- and he's fuckin' us now!
- He started in again.
1086
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,875
Fuckin' little asswipe
closed down the camps,
1087
00:50:18,958 --> 00:50:20,458
took all our C-4,
1088
00:50:20,542 --> 00:50:24,625
took 10,000 fuckin' rounds,
3,000 pounds of gunpowder,
1089
00:50:24,708 --> 00:50:26,167
all our fuckin' weapons!
1090
00:50:26,250 --> 00:50:27,625
I tell ya...
1091
00:50:27,708 --> 00:50:29,208
Shit, you wanna free Cuba?
1092
00:50:29,292 --> 00:50:30,833
You got to whack out the
fuckin' Beard.
1093
00:50:30,917 --> 00:50:32,167
Yeah, well,
that faggot Kennedy won't let us.
1094
00:50:32,250 --> 00:50:33,792
Our hands are empty,
how can we kill him?
1095
00:50:33,875 --> 00:50:36,833
It's a real problem getting at him,
Castro has informers on every block.
1096
00:50:36,917 --> 00:50:38,958
Bullshit.
They got all kinds of new stuff.
1097
00:50:39,042 --> 00:50:42,250
I can show you dozens of fuckin' poisons.
Just stick it in his food.
1098
00:50:42,333 --> 00:50:43,625
He'd die in three days.
1099
00:50:43,708 --> 00:50:44,917
No trace!
1100
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,917
We can put something in his beard,
make his beard fall out.
1101
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:48,917
He'll look fuckin' ridiculous without
his beard.
1102
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,625
The real problem is...
is that fucking Kennedy.
1103
00:50:51,708 --> 00:50:52,958
He's doing all kinds of deals...
1104
00:50:54,542 --> 00:50:56,500
...Khrushchev. Licking his ass.
1105
00:50:58,292 --> 00:51:01,208
An inspired act of God should
happen here, okay?
1106
00:51:01,292 --> 00:51:03,000
And put a Texan in the
White House!
1107
00:51:05,167 --> 00:51:06,292
Then the Cubans left.
1108
00:51:06,708 --> 00:51:08,708
Dave was drunk now,
really drunk.
1109
00:51:08,792 --> 00:51:11,083
- He started in on Kennedy again.
1110
00:51:11,167 --> 00:51:12,250
‘Cause I will kill.
1111
00:51:12,333 --> 00:51:14,833
Right in the White House,
I'll stab him right in his fuckin' heart!
1112
00:51:14,958 --> 00:51:17,042
- Somebody got to get rid of this fucker.
1113
00:51:17,125 --> 00:51:18,000
Come on, Dave.
1114
00:51:18,583 --> 00:51:20,375
You ain't never gonna get that
son of a bitch.
1115
00:51:20,458 --> 00:51:22,667
No? It won't be long,
mark my words.
1116
00:51:22,750 --> 00:51:24,792
- That fucker'll get what's coming to him.
1117
00:51:24,875 --> 00:51:26,167
It can be blamed on Castro.
1118
00:51:26,250 --> 00:51:27,667
The whole country'll want to
invade Cuba.
1119
00:51:27,750 --> 00:51:29,417
All we got to do is get Kennedy in
the open.
1120
00:51:29,500 --> 00:51:33,792
David, David, always some harebrained
scheme or another.
1121
00:51:34,417 --> 00:51:35,167
Oh!
1122
00:51:36,458 --> 00:51:38,750
What have we here?
Let's have some more champagne.
1123
00:51:38,833 --> 00:51:40,292
- Shall we?
1124
00:51:40,375 --> 00:51:42,417
What about the Secret Service,
the cops?
1125
00:51:43,458 --> 00:51:44,792
If it's planned right,
it's no problem.
1126
00:51:44,875 --> 00:51:46,417
- Look how close they got with de Gaulle.
1127
00:51:47,167 --> 00:51:49,208
Eisenhower was always
riding around in an open top.
1128
00:51:49,292 --> 00:51:51,750
We need three mechanics in three
different locations.
1129
00:51:52,583 --> 00:51:54,667
An office building with a
high-powered rifle.
1130
00:51:55,792 --> 00:51:57,875
Triangulation of crossfire,
that's the key.
1131
00:51:58,708 --> 00:51:59,792
- That's the key.
1132
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,875
The diversionary shot gets the Secret
Service looking the other way.
1133
00:52:02,958 --> 00:52:04,333
Boom! You get the kill shot.
1134
00:52:05,708 --> 00:52:08,208
The crucial thing is one man has to
be sacrificed.
1135
00:52:09,042 --> 00:52:11,167
Then, in the commotion of the crowd,
the job gets done.
1136
00:52:11,458 --> 00:52:13,833
The others fly out of the country to
someplace with no extradition.
1137
00:52:13,917 --> 00:52:15,667
Why don't we drop this subject...
1138
00:52:15,750 --> 00:52:18,333
it's one thing to engage in badinage
with all these youngsters,
1139
00:52:18,417 --> 00:52:21,750
but this sort of thing could be so
easily misunderstood.
1140
00:52:21,833 --> 00:52:23,417
Ouch! Ow! Ouch!
1141
00:52:23,500 --> 00:52:25,333
I didn't think much about it at the time.
1142
00:52:25,417 --> 00:52:26,708
It's just bullshit, you know.
1143
00:52:26,792 --> 00:52:29,667
Everybody likes to make themselves out to
be something more than they are.
1144
00:52:29,750 --> 00:52:32,042
Especially in the homosexual
underworld.
1145
00:52:33,333 --> 00:52:34,917
But when they got him, man...
1146
00:52:35,417 --> 00:52:36,750
I got scared...
1147
00:52:37,208 --> 00:52:38,208
Real scared.
1148
00:52:39,125 --> 00:52:40,250
And that's when I got popped.
1149
00:52:40,417 --> 00:52:41,958
You realize the things you're
saying, Willie,
1150
00:52:42,042 --> 00:52:43,917
are gonna be attacked by a lot of
different people.
1151
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,500
Oh, bring all those
motherfuckers on, man!
1152
00:52:46,583 --> 00:52:49,000
Bring their college degrees in here,
I got nothin' to hide.
1153
00:52:49,083 --> 00:52:50,042
You can't buy me.
1154
00:52:50,125 --> 00:52:51,542
- They can't buy me.
- I don't wanna buy you.
1155
00:52:51,625 --> 00:52:52,875
- I don't even need this damn parole.
- Nobody--
1156
00:52:52,958 --> 00:52:55,125
- What are you talking about, parole?
- See, this is about the truth coming out.
1157
00:52:55,208 --> 00:52:57,458
You a goddamn liberal, Mr. Garrison.
You don't know shit...
1158
00:52:57,542 --> 00:52:59,792
‘cause you never been fucked
in the ass!
1159
00:52:59,875 --> 00:53:02,208
This ain't about justice.
You think this is about justice?
1160
00:53:02,292 --> 00:53:03,958
No, this is about order.
1161
00:53:04,042 --> 00:53:05,208
Who rules.
1162
00:53:05,292 --> 00:53:07,042
‘Cause, see,
fascism is coming back.
1163
00:53:07,125 --> 00:53:10,125
Nobody wants to buy you,
no one's promising you a parole, here.
1164
00:53:10,208 --> 00:53:12,083
I want to be perfectly clear
about that.
1165
00:53:12,458 --> 00:53:14,042
What I need to know is why.
1166
00:53:14,417 --> 00:53:15,167
All right?
1167
00:53:15,250 --> 00:53:16,917
Why are you telling us this?
1168
00:53:17,333 --> 00:53:19,708
‘Cause that motherfucker Kennedy...
1169
00:53:19,792 --> 00:53:22,750
stole that motherfucking election,
that's why.
1170
00:53:22,833 --> 00:53:23,583
Nixon...
1171
00:53:23,667 --> 00:53:26,583
was gonna be one of the great presidents
till Kennedy wrecked this country.
1172
00:53:26,667 --> 00:53:28,958
Got niggers all over the place asking for
their damn rights.
1173
00:53:29,042 --> 00:53:31,167
Why you think we got all this
crime now?
1174
00:53:31,250 --> 00:53:33,875
He promised those motherfuckers too
goddamn much, you ask me.
1175
00:53:33,958 --> 00:53:35,667
Revolution's coming,
bullshit, man.
1176
00:53:35,750 --> 00:53:37,167
Fascism is coming back.
1177
00:53:37,250 --> 00:53:38,542
I'm gonna tell you this.
1178
00:53:38,667 --> 00:53:41,792
The day that communist son of a bitch died
was a great day--
1179
00:53:41,875 --> 00:53:44,292
a great day for this country.
1180
00:53:44,417 --> 00:53:48,500
And I just hate to think that they blame
it on some silly fuckin' Oswald.
1181
00:53:48,583 --> 00:53:52,083
Didn't know shit anyway, man.
People got to know.
1182
00:53:52,167 --> 00:53:53,958
People got to know why
he was killed.
1183
00:53:54,917 --> 00:53:56,625
Because he was...
1184
00:53:56,708 --> 00:53:57,750
a communist.
1185
00:53:58,292 --> 00:53:59,417
Go ahead, man.
1186
00:53:59,542 --> 00:54:01,083
You go ahead,
you put me on the stand,
1187
00:54:01,167 --> 00:54:02,958
I'll tell the same goddamn story!
1188
00:54:03,042 --> 00:54:05,000
Don't matter fuck all to me!
1189
00:54:06,250 --> 00:54:07,208
All right, Willie.
1190
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,083
Thank you.
1191
00:54:09,500 --> 00:54:10,583
We'll be in touch.
1192
00:54:11,292 --> 00:54:12,292
All right.
1193
00:54:17,667 --> 00:54:20,167
Hey, you know, you're not a
bad-looking man, Mr. Garrison.
1194
00:54:20,833 --> 00:54:22,208
Not bad-looking at all.
1195
00:54:22,625 --> 00:54:24,083
I get outta here,
I'm gonna come see you.
1196
00:54:24,167 --> 00:54:25,125
We could have some fun!
1197
00:54:26,333 --> 00:54:28,458
None of their testimony's gonna
hold up in court, chief.
1198
00:54:28,542 --> 00:54:31,875
Hell, all three of 'em have reputations
lower than crocodile piss.
1199
00:54:32,125 --> 00:54:33,625
Does that bother you, Bill?
1200
00:54:35,292 --> 00:54:38,083
I always wondered in court why it is
because a woman's a prostitute,
1201
00:54:38,167 --> 00:54:39,833
she has to have bad eyesight.
1202
00:54:40,958 --> 00:54:42,333
Now go find this Clay Bertrand.
1203
00:54:42,417 --> 00:54:43,917
Start by checking around
the Quarter.
1204
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,875
And the six of us, with almost
no budget and in secret,
1205
00:54:46,958 --> 00:54:49,625
are gonna solve a case that the Warren
Commission couldn't solve?
1206
00:54:49,708 --> 00:54:52,083
I didn't pick you because of your
legal skill, you know.
1207
00:54:52,167 --> 00:54:53,750
Gee, thanks, boss.
1208
00:54:53,833 --> 00:54:54,958
But because you're a fighter.
1209
00:54:55,458 --> 00:54:57,792
I like a man who's not afraid
of bad odds.
1210
00:54:57,958 --> 00:54:59,708
Mr. Garrison, how are you?
1211
00:55:00,042 --> 00:55:01,000
Remember me?
1212
00:55:01,083 --> 00:55:02,458
I surely do.
Did you vote for me?
1213
00:55:02,542 --> 00:55:03,667
I certainly did, sir.
1214
00:55:03,750 --> 00:55:06,042
We sang together at the Royal Orleans,
remember?
1215
00:55:06,125 --> 00:55:07,458
Yeah, we sang...
1216
00:55:07,542 --> 00:55:10,667
"You're the Cream in My Coffee."
1217
00:55:12,750 --> 00:55:14,917
Mr. Garrison, we haven't seen
enough of you lately.
1218
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,250
Been too busy, Paul.
1219
00:55:16,667 --> 00:55:19,167
Elected men, they can't have as much fun
as they used to.
1220
00:55:19,250 --> 00:55:20,583
It's always nice to see you.
1221
00:55:20,792 --> 00:55:22,417
Pleasure to serve you,
always.
1222
00:55:23,625 --> 00:55:25,000
- Hey, Jim.
- How are you?
1223
00:55:25,083 --> 00:55:26,333
- Good seeing you again.
- Nice to see you.
1224
00:55:26,417 --> 00:55:27,667
- Hey, Jim.
- Al.
1225
00:55:27,750 --> 00:55:29,292
- Jim.
- Welcome back, Lou.
1226
00:55:29,917 --> 00:55:31,000
- Paul.
- Yes?
1227
00:55:31,083 --> 00:55:32,875
You think I could get a martini?
1228
00:55:32,958 --> 00:55:34,208
Been waiting for you, sir.
1229
00:55:34,917 --> 00:55:35,833
Perfect.
1230
00:55:35,917 --> 00:55:37,917
- Keep that table open for us, will ya?
- Yes, sir.
1231
00:55:40,833 --> 00:55:42,708
Find out anything on those hoboes?
1232
00:55:42,792 --> 00:55:43,833
- Photographer from...
1233
00:55:43,917 --> 00:55:46,250
The Dallas Times Herald got some
great shots of ‘em.
1234
00:55:47,167 --> 00:55:48,417
Never published.
1235
00:55:50,875 --> 00:55:53,250
Can't say that comes as a surprise
anymore.
1236
00:55:54,333 --> 00:55:57,375
They took ‘em to the sheriff's office
and they let ‘em go.
1237
00:55:57,458 --> 00:55:59,583
No record of 'em ever being
questioned.
1238
00:55:59,792 --> 00:56:01,208
Take a good look, chief.
1239
00:56:01,292 --> 00:56:03,208
Any of 'em look like the hoboes
you remember?
1240
00:56:03,958 --> 00:56:05,667
These two look pretty young.
1241
00:56:05,958 --> 00:56:08,417
Not a single frayed collar or cuff,
1242
00:56:08,500 --> 00:56:11,042
new haircuts, fresh shaves,
clean hands,
1243
00:56:11,125 --> 00:56:12,417
new shoe leather.
1244
00:56:12,500 --> 00:56:14,292
Well who the hell are they, then?
1245
00:56:15,542 --> 00:56:16,958
- Hi, Susie.
- Hello.
1246
00:56:17,042 --> 00:56:18,750
- I'm sorry I'm late.
- Come on, sit down.
1247
00:56:21,167 --> 00:56:24,208
This could be it. This could be it.
Let's start looking for ‘em.
1248
00:56:24,292 --> 00:56:25,875
- What about that railroad man,
1249
00:56:25,958 --> 00:56:27,042
- Lee Bowers?
1250
00:56:27,333 --> 00:56:29,167
Saw those men at the picket fence.
1251
00:56:30,042 --> 00:56:32,917
Graveyard. Dead. August this year.
1252
00:56:33,083 --> 00:56:34,500
- Single car accident...
1253
00:56:34,583 --> 00:56:36,875
on an empty road in Midlothian,
Texas.
1254
00:56:36,958 --> 00:56:40,250
The doctor said he was in some kind of
strange shock when he died.
1255
00:56:40,708 --> 00:56:42,458
We need to find more witnesses,
Lou.
1256
00:56:42,958 --> 00:56:45,375
Well, there was Rose Cheramie,
a whore.
1257
00:56:45,458 --> 00:56:48,375
She said she was a dope runner for
Jack Ruby.
1258
00:56:48,958 --> 00:56:49,875
And...
1259
00:56:49,958 --> 00:56:53,083
she said that Ruby knew Oswald
for years.
1260
00:56:53,250 --> 00:56:54,542
Can we talk to her?
1261
00:56:55,250 --> 00:56:56,167
She's dead, too.
1262
00:56:56,458 --> 00:56:57,292
- Hit and run.
- Oh, mama.
1263
00:57:02,875 --> 00:57:05,375
Why don't we go right to the
horse's mouth, chief?
1264
00:57:05,792 --> 00:57:09,125
Jack Ruby's been rotting away in a Dallas
jail cell for three years.
1265
00:57:09,208 --> 00:57:10,625
Maybe he's ready to crack.
1266
00:57:10,708 --> 00:57:11,458
Can't do it, Bill.
1267
00:57:11,542 --> 00:57:15,042
If we go to him, our investigation'll hit
the front pages by sunrise, all right?
1268
00:57:15,125 --> 00:57:16,833
It'll blow up right in our face.
1269
00:57:17,167 --> 00:57:19,083
Susie, what did you find out
on Oswald?
1270
00:57:19,167 --> 00:57:21,708
Uh, negative on his tax records.
1271
00:57:21,792 --> 00:57:22,750
Classified.
1272
00:57:22,833 --> 00:57:25,583
First time I know a DA can't
get a tax record.
1273
00:57:26,167 --> 00:57:29,417
So I put together a list of all the
CIA files on Oswald
1274
00:57:29,500 --> 00:57:32,042
that were part of the Warren Report
and asked for them.
1275
00:57:32,125 --> 00:57:34,458
- There are about 1,200 documents.
- Ooh.
1276
00:57:34,833 --> 00:57:36,625
And can't get one of them.
1277
00:57:36,708 --> 00:57:40,292
All classified as secret on the grounds
of national security.
1278
00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:42,417
They gave me his grammar school
records!
1279
00:57:42,500 --> 00:57:45,333
- It's a study of his pubic hairs!
1280
00:57:45,417 --> 00:57:47,458
Lonely kid, no father.
1281
00:57:47,542 --> 00:57:49,542
Joins the Marines at 17.
1282
00:57:50,083 --> 00:57:51,583
He learns Russian,
1283
00:57:51,667 --> 00:57:53,583
he acts overtly Marxist,
1284
00:57:53,667 --> 00:57:57,167
but he's stationed at a top-secret
air base in Japan,
1285
00:57:57,250 --> 00:58:00,083
where U2 spy flights over Russia
originate.
1286
00:58:00,708 --> 00:58:04,708
He's discharged from the Marines,
supposedly because his mother's sick.
1287
00:58:04,792 --> 00:58:06,042
Stays home three days,
1288
00:58:06,125 --> 00:58:08,333
then with a 1,500-dollar ticket
1289
00:58:08,417 --> 00:58:11,333
from a 203-dollar bank account,
he goes to Moscow.
1290
00:58:11,417 --> 00:58:12,625
Mr. Oswald, do you understand
1291
00:58:12,708 --> 00:58:14,667
the severity of the action that you're
about to take?
1292
00:58:14,750 --> 00:58:17,958
Yes, I do, sir, and I am also very
familiar...
1293
00:58:19,958 --> 00:58:22,667
I wish to renounce my citizenship,
1294
00:58:22,750 --> 00:58:25,583
and become a Soviet citizen.
1295
00:58:26,125 --> 00:58:28,000
I'm going to make known to them
1296
00:58:28,083 --> 00:58:30,292
all information I have concerning the
Marine Corps.
1297
00:58:30,375 --> 00:58:33,958
And he disappears for six weeks,
presumably with the KGB.
1298
00:58:34,250 --> 00:58:36,875
Finally they shuttle him to a radio
factory in Minsk,
1299
00:58:36,958 --> 00:58:40,292
where he lives as high on the hog as
he ever has.
1300
00:58:40,500 --> 00:58:42,667
He's given 5,000 rubles,
1301
00:58:42,750 --> 00:58:45,083
a roomy apartment with a balcony,
1302
00:58:45,583 --> 00:58:47,667
has affairs with local girls.
1303
00:58:47,750 --> 00:58:49,958
- Makes sense, he's a spokesman.
1304
00:58:50,042 --> 00:58:52,917
But-- but he never writes,
speaks,
1305
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:55,167
or does any propaganda for
the Russians.
1306
00:58:55,708 --> 00:58:57,583
He meets Marina...
1307
00:58:57,667 --> 00:59:00,167
whose uncle is a colonel in
Soviet intelligence,
1308
00:59:00,250 --> 00:59:02,250
at a trade union dance.
1309
00:59:02,583 --> 00:59:04,875
She thinks he's Russian by the way
he speaks.
1310
00:59:04,958 --> 00:59:06,625
Six weeks later they marry...
1311
00:59:06,958 --> 00:59:07,750
have a daughter.
1312
00:59:08,292 --> 00:59:10,292
The only explanation for the
royal treatment
1313
00:59:10,375 --> 00:59:12,417
can be that he did give them
radar secrets,
1314
00:59:12,500 --> 00:59:13,833
or fake secrets.
1315
00:59:13,917 --> 00:59:16,167
Six months after he arrives
in Russia,
1316
00:59:16,250 --> 00:59:19,000
Francis Gary Powers' U2
spy flight
1317
00:59:19,083 --> 00:59:20,750
goes down in Russia.
1318
00:59:20,833 --> 00:59:22,500
That plane was untouchable.
1319
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,833
Powers hinted that Oswald could
have given the Russians
1320
00:59:25,917 --> 00:59:27,500
enough data to hit it.
1321
00:59:27,583 --> 00:59:29,458
And as a direct result...
1322
00:59:29,542 --> 00:59:32,333
the peace summit between Khrushchev
and Eisenhower failed.
1323
00:59:32,417 --> 00:59:33,708
I can't help thinking...
1324
00:59:33,958 --> 00:59:37,667
maybe someone in our military didn't want
the peace conference to happen.
1325
00:59:37,750 --> 00:59:39,917
- Susie, come on.
- Maybe Oswald was a part of that!
1326
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,583
- Susie, you are an assistant DA, remember?
- It gets weirder.
1327
00:59:42,667 --> 00:59:44,583
Just stick to what you can prove
in court.
1328
00:59:44,667 --> 00:59:45,792
- Facts? You want facts?
- Please.
1329
00:59:45,875 --> 00:59:47,458
- Susie, don't get sidetracked.
- From 1945 to '59--
1330
00:59:47,542 --> 00:59:50,208
How does he get back to the States?
That's the point, all right?
1331
00:59:50,292 --> 00:59:52,667
- Does he have any problems with Uncle Sam?
- No! None.
1332
00:59:52,750 --> 00:59:56,167
The State Department issues him a new
passport within 48 hours,
1333
00:59:56,250 --> 00:59:58,125
and loans him the money to travel.
1334
00:59:58,833 --> 01:00:01,583
He's never investigated or
charged by the Navy
1335
01:00:01,667 --> 01:00:04,208
- for revealing classified information.
1336
01:00:04,292 --> 01:00:05,458
Or, as far as we know,
1337
01:00:05,542 --> 01:00:07,208
debriefed by the CIA!
1338
01:00:07,292 --> 01:00:09,333
Son of a bitch should've been
prosecuted as a traitor
1339
01:00:09,417 --> 01:00:10,958
the minute he stepped off
the boat.
1340
01:00:12,125 --> 01:00:14,250
What about Marina,
she have any problems getting out?
1341
01:00:14,333 --> 01:00:15,167
No! None either.
1342
01:00:15,250 --> 01:00:16,250
No, it's bizarre.
1343
01:00:16,333 --> 01:00:19,417
It's next to impossible to get
Russian sweethearts out.
1344
01:00:19,500 --> 01:00:22,083
This is a man who has defected
once already.
1345
01:00:22,167 --> 01:00:22,917
It's crazy.
1346
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:24,167
Ordinary people...
1347
01:00:24,250 --> 01:00:27,667
they get blacklisted for having
leftist affiliations.
1348
01:00:27,750 --> 01:00:29,167
- It doesn't add up, does it?
1349
01:00:29,250 --> 01:00:33,042
Next thing we know, he's living in
Dallas-Fort Worth October '62...
1350
01:00:33,125 --> 01:00:34,167
working six months
1351
01:00:34,250 --> 01:00:36,083
- at Jaggars-Chiles-Stovall.
1352
01:00:36,167 --> 01:00:40,083
This is a photographic firm that contracts
to make maps for the US Army.
1353
01:00:40,750 --> 01:00:44,292
Oswald becomes chummy with the White
Russian community of Dallas,
1354
01:00:44,375 --> 01:00:46,542
- all rabid anti-communists.
1355
01:00:46,625 --> 01:00:47,458
It's odd.
1356
01:00:47,542 --> 01:00:50,250
- His closest friend is an oilman...
1357
01:00:50,667 --> 01:00:52,958
named George de Mohrenschildt,
1358
01:00:53,083 --> 01:00:55,375
who's about 35 years older
than Oswald,
1359
01:00:55,458 --> 01:00:58,917
who is only 23 and supposedly
broke.
1360
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:03,250
De Mohrenschildt is a member of the
Dallas Petroleum Club,
1361
01:01:03,333 --> 01:01:04,667
speaks five languages,
1362
01:01:04,750 --> 01:01:07,375
and was in French Vichy Intelligence
during the war.
1363
01:01:07,458 --> 01:01:08,750
- Also rumored to have been
1364
01:01:08,833 --> 01:01:10,375
a Nazi sympathizer.
1365
01:01:10,458 --> 01:01:12,875
I think you really talk like a redneck...
1366
01:01:12,958 --> 01:01:17,667
De Mohrenschildt draws a picture of Oswald
as an intellectual, well-read,
1367
01:01:17,750 --> 01:01:18,917
speaks excellent Russian,
1368
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:21,167
a man who adored JFK.
1369
01:01:23,917 --> 01:01:24,875
Oh.
1370
01:01:24,958 --> 01:01:27,958
I think he's made some mistakes
regarding Cuba.
1371
01:01:28,042 --> 01:01:31,125
I think he's doing a pretty good job.
1372
01:01:31,208 --> 01:01:34,708
If he succeeds, in my opinion,
I think he'll make a great president.
1373
01:01:34,792 --> 01:01:36,333
- A really handsome one, too.
- Yes.
1374
01:01:36,417 --> 01:01:39,375
That's scenery, Susie,
now don't get sidetracked.
1375
01:01:39,458 --> 01:01:43,083
This is the same man that, bottom line,
nailed Oswald to the Warren Commission
1376
01:01:43,167 --> 01:01:46,458
as a potentially violent man,
and linked him to the rifle.
1377
01:01:46,542 --> 01:01:49,958
Well, in that sense,
Castro is an experimenter.
1378
01:01:56,042 --> 01:01:57,667
What you got there?
1379
01:01:59,083 --> 01:02:00,750
You have a rifle in there?
1380
01:02:01,833 --> 01:02:02,833
Lee...
1381
01:02:02,917 --> 01:02:03,792
Tell me.
1382
01:02:04,542 --> 01:02:06,333
What are you shooting at?
1383
01:02:06,417 --> 01:02:07,750
Rabbits or fascists?
1384
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:09,042
I uh....
1385
01:02:09,125 --> 01:02:10,625
- I hunt.
- You hunt?
1386
01:02:10,708 --> 01:02:11,458
Mm-hmm.
1387
01:02:11,542 --> 01:02:12,417
Hillbillies.
1388
01:02:12,500 --> 01:02:15,042
We don't know he's CIA,
let's circle him very probable.
1389
01:02:15,125 --> 01:02:16,792
- All right.
- Call him Oswald's handler.
1390
01:02:17,042 --> 01:02:19,750
The Oswalds are introduced by
George de Mohrenschildt
1391
01:02:19,833 --> 01:02:21,833
- to Janet and Bill Williams.
1392
01:02:21,917 --> 01:02:23,708
I'm an engineer for
Bell Helicopter.
1393
01:02:23,792 --> 01:02:25,000
It's through Janet Williams
1394
01:02:25,083 --> 01:02:27,708
- in October '63
1395
01:02:27,792 --> 01:02:29,625
that Lee gets the job at
the warehouse
1396
01:02:29,708 --> 01:02:32,458
right smack on Elm Street at the
book depository.
1397
01:02:32,875 --> 01:02:35,500
Presumably so he can now exercise
his intellect
1398
01:02:35,583 --> 01:02:38,125
stacking school texts at
a dollar 25 an hour.
1399
01:02:39,375 --> 01:02:42,625
Marina fights often with Lee
about many things.
1400
01:02:45,208 --> 01:02:47,458
His secrecy,
their lack of money...
1401
01:02:48,833 --> 01:02:51,125
She says that Lee is not sexually
adequate.
1402
01:02:51,417 --> 01:02:53,708
- Lee, you'll hurt her! You'll hurt her!
1403
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,250
- Lee hits her on several occasions.
1404
01:02:57,333 --> 01:03:00,167
Now, at the age of 24,
he rents a small room in Dallas
1405
01:03:00,250 --> 01:03:02,500
under the alias of O. H. Lee.
1406
01:03:02,583 --> 01:03:04,125
Do you want to look at television?
1407
01:03:04,583 --> 01:03:06,125
- Are you all right, Mr. Lee?
1408
01:03:06,458 --> 01:03:08,000
No, thank you. I'm fine.
1409
01:03:09,333 --> 01:03:13,000
All I can find out about the Williams is
that their tax returns are classified,
1410
01:03:13,083 --> 01:03:15,917
and that Bill Williams has links
through his family
1411
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:17,167
- to the CIA,
1412
01:03:17,250 --> 01:03:19,333
and does classified work for
Bell Helicopter.
1413
01:03:20,250 --> 01:03:22,208
- Bill's convenient separation from Janet
1414
01:03:22,292 --> 01:03:24,500
allows Marina to move into
her house,
1415
01:03:24,667 --> 01:03:27,250
where she suddenly becomes
Marina's best friend.
1416
01:03:27,333 --> 01:03:28,542
- And, there,
1417
01:03:28,625 --> 01:03:30,583
- Marina and Lee have a second daughter.
- I have to go away...
1418
01:03:31,042 --> 01:03:33,208
- I have to go away...
1419
01:03:33,292 --> 01:03:34,750
- Just for a short while.
1420
01:03:34,833 --> 01:03:37,208
- What is the matter with this family?
1421
01:03:37,292 --> 01:03:38,958
- / love Lee...
1422
01:03:39,375 --> 01:03:41,917
And I... sorry him.
1423
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:43,083
You're sorry for him?
1424
01:03:44,417 --> 01:03:45,167
Yes.
1425
01:03:45,250 --> 01:03:46,000
When he's arrested,
1426
01:03:46,083 --> 01:03:48,250
Marina buries him with the public.
1427
01:03:48,333 --> 01:03:51,917
Her description of him is that of a
psychotic and violent man.
1428
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,625
I have too much facts...
1429
01:03:53,708 --> 01:03:55,708
and facts tell me...
1430
01:03:55,792 --> 01:03:58,000
that Lee shot Kennedy.
1431
01:03:58,083 --> 01:04:00,208
After, they kept her locked away
for two months,
1432
01:04:00,292 --> 01:04:01,750
surrounded by federal people,
1433
01:04:01,833 --> 01:04:03,583
in fearing she'd be deported back
to Russia.
1434
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,125
All right, the poor woman was probably
suffering from nervous exhaustion.
1435
01:04:07,458 --> 01:04:09,125
- They taught her how to answer.
1436
01:04:09,625 --> 01:04:12,625
And when they think she's ready,
they buy her new dresses,
1437
01:04:12,750 --> 01:04:15,167
polish her appearance,
and wheel her out on cue.
1438
01:04:15,250 --> 01:04:17,875
I would like to thank the Warren
Commission...
1439
01:04:17,958 --> 01:04:19,833
Now, Oswald was no angel,
that's clear.
1440
01:04:20,208 --> 01:04:21,167
But who was he?
1441
01:04:22,042 --> 01:04:23,333
I'm lost, boss.
1442
01:04:23,792 --> 01:04:25,333
- What are we saying here?
1443
01:04:25,417 --> 01:04:27,750
We're saying that when Oswald
went to Russia,
1444
01:04:27,833 --> 01:04:29,542
he was not a real defector,
1445
01:04:29,958 --> 01:04:32,042
that he was an intelligence agent on
some kind of mission
1446
01:04:32,125 --> 01:04:34,542
for our government and remained one
till the day he died.
1447
01:04:34,625 --> 01:04:35,500
That's what we're saying.
1448
01:04:35,792 --> 01:04:38,292
Therefore, because
Oswald pulled the trigger,
1449
01:04:38,833 --> 01:04:41,500
the intelligence community murdered
their own commander in chief?
1450
01:04:41,833 --> 01:04:43,083
Is that what you're saying?
1451
01:04:43,167 --> 01:04:44,625
I'll go you one better, Bill.
1452
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,708
Maybe Oswald didn't even pull
the trigger.
1453
01:04:47,458 --> 01:04:51,125
Nitrate tests indicate he hadn't even
fired a rifle on November 22nd.
1454
01:04:51,333 --> 01:04:53,125
And on top of that,
they didn't even bother to see
1455
01:04:53,208 --> 01:04:54,875
if the rifle had been fired
that day.
1456
01:04:55,583 --> 01:04:57,250
He had his palm print on the weapon.
1457
01:04:57,333 --> 01:04:59,042
Well, it went to the FBI, Bill.
1458
01:04:59,500 --> 01:05:01,667
FBI didn't find a goddamn thing.
1459
01:05:02,042 --> 01:05:05,125
It comes back a week later and one guy in
the Dallas police department
1460
01:05:05,208 --> 01:05:06,625
- suddenly finds a palm print.
1461
01:05:07,375 --> 01:05:09,917
For all we know, it could've been
taken off Oswald in the morgue.
1462
01:05:10,125 --> 01:05:11,333
There's no chain of evidence.
1463
01:05:11,417 --> 01:05:15,583
I never could figure out why this guy
orders a traceable weapon...
1464
01:05:16,208 --> 01:05:17,583
to this post office box,
1465
01:05:17,667 --> 01:05:19,625
when he can go into any store
in Texas,
1466
01:05:20,167 --> 01:05:23,583
give a phony name, and walk out with a
rifle which can never be traced.
1467
01:05:23,667 --> 01:05:25,042
To frame him, obviously.
1468
01:05:25,125 --> 01:05:27,500
There's a lot of smoke there,
but there's some fire.
1469
01:05:27,583 --> 01:05:29,458
We're talking about our
government, here.
1470
01:05:29,542 --> 01:05:32,208
No, we're talking about a crime, Bill.
Pure and simple.
1471
01:05:32,583 --> 01:05:36,125
Y'all got to start thinking on a different
level, like the CIA does.
1472
01:05:36,500 --> 01:05:38,583
Now we're through the looking glass,
here, people.
1473
01:05:39,583 --> 01:05:40,625
White is black.
1474
01:05:41,833 --> 01:05:42,958
And black is white.
1475
01:05:44,333 --> 01:05:47,000
Just maybe, Oswald is exactly what
he said he was.
1476
01:05:47,792 --> 01:05:48,583
A patsy.
1477
01:05:54,958 --> 01:05:57,000
It's unbelievable.
You were here?
1478
01:05:57,083 --> 01:05:58,167
Yes, sir.
1479
01:05:58,292 --> 01:05:59,708
This is where I was sitting.
1480
01:06:00,083 --> 01:06:03,667
Shots came from near that wooden
fence over there,
1481
01:06:04,625 --> 01:06:06,542
- near the overpass.
1482
01:06:06,750 --> 01:06:11,083
And I saw a man run from the fence toward
those railroad cars.
1483
01:06:11,167 --> 01:06:13,500
I made it very clear to the
Warren people
1484
01:06:13,583 --> 01:06:16,750
that one of the shots came from behind
that picket fence.
1485
01:06:16,958 --> 01:06:19,500
I heard the report,
saw the smoke come out
1486
01:06:19,583 --> 01:06:21,375
- six or eight feet above the ground,
1487
01:06:21,458 --> 01:06:23,458
- right out from under those trees.
1488
01:06:23,542 --> 01:06:25,625
- We, uh, all four of us...
1489
01:06:25,708 --> 01:06:27,125
- all railroad men...
1490
01:06:27,208 --> 01:06:28,792
- seen about the same thing.
1491
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,625
The smoke came from behind
the hedge.
1492
01:06:31,708 --> 01:06:33,708
I was standing next to my friend,
Mary Moorman,
1493
01:06:33,792 --> 01:06:35,750
who took the photograph when he
was killed.
1494
01:06:35,917 --> 01:06:38,250
- Um...
1495
01:06:38,333 --> 01:06:41,958
I stepped down to the curb and yelled,
"Hey, Mr. President!"
1496
01:06:42,042 --> 01:06:43,750
Look over here!
1497
01:06:45,542 --> 01:06:47,083
And then shots rang out.
1498
01:06:49,250 --> 01:06:51,083
Mary fell to the ground right away.
1499
01:06:51,167 --> 01:06:54,292
She was yelling, "They're shooting,
they're shooting, get down!"
1500
01:06:55,500 --> 01:06:56,625
I just stood there watching.
1501
01:06:58,208 --> 01:06:59,500
The driver had stopped.
1502
01:07:00,958 --> 01:07:02,625
I don't know what was wrong with
that driver.
1503
01:07:03,542 --> 01:07:04,500
Then...
1504
01:07:05,417 --> 01:07:06,917
out of the corner of my eye...
1505
01:07:08,125 --> 01:07:10,083
I saw a flash of light in the bushes...
1506
01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,083
and that last shot....
1507
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,333
just ripped his head off.
1508
01:07:16,750 --> 01:07:20,750
I looked up and I saw smoke coming from
over there, on the knoll.
1509
01:07:20,833 --> 01:07:23,417
We came around here to look for tracks.
1510
01:07:23,792 --> 01:07:27,000
It rained that morning,
and we found a bunch.
1511
01:07:27,625 --> 01:07:28,625
Cigarette butts...
1512
01:07:28,875 --> 01:07:31,458
and someone had stood about here.
1513
01:07:37,458 --> 01:07:39,083
That's a good spot,
chief.
1514
01:07:40,333 --> 01:07:41,208
For the head shot.
1515
01:07:43,250 --> 01:07:45,167
Everything was just frozen.
1516
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:48,208
Seemed like people weren't even
breathing.
1517
01:07:48,833 --> 01:07:50,542
Like you were looking at a picture.
1518
01:07:53,250 --> 01:07:54,708
Except for this one man.
1519
01:07:55,917 --> 01:07:57,583
I saw this one man
1520
01:07:57,667 --> 01:08:01,875
running from the corner of the book
depository over towards the parking lot.
1521
01:08:01,958 --> 01:08:03,250
It was about 11:00 in the morning.
1522
01:08:04,167 --> 01:08:06,833
And I was driving west on Elm Street
toward the Triple Underpass
1523
01:08:06,917 --> 01:08:07,958
in a rented car.
1524
01:08:08,333 --> 01:08:09,833
A light blue Valiant.
1525
01:08:10,583 --> 01:08:12,292
I will never forget that day.
1526
01:08:12,625 --> 01:08:16,292
There was quite a bit of traffic and I
stopped alongside this green pickup truck.
1527
01:08:16,625 --> 01:08:18,625
And I remember it being
very noticeable
1528
01:08:18,708 --> 01:08:21,583
because it had one of its wheels parked up
on the side of the curb.
1529
01:08:21,667 --> 01:08:23,542
And then when I saw the gun,
I thought...
1530
01:08:24,458 --> 01:08:25,333
Well...
1531
01:08:25,875 --> 01:08:27,750
the Secret Service is not very secret.
1532
01:08:28,250 --> 01:08:31,292
Then the next morning, on Saturday,
I went down to the FBI office
1533
01:08:31,375 --> 01:08:33,625
and the agents showed me
some photographs
1534
01:08:33,708 --> 01:08:35,625
and I picked out three pictures
that looked
1535
01:08:35,708 --> 01:08:37,542
generally like the driver
of the truck.
1536
01:08:38,333 --> 01:08:39,417
That's the man.
1537
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,625
You mean you identified Jack Ruby
on Saturday?
1538
01:08:42,750 --> 01:08:43,542
That's right.
1539
01:08:43,625 --> 01:08:45,292
The day before he shot Oswald?
1540
01:08:45,583 --> 01:08:48,000
That's right.
When I saw him on TV...
1541
01:08:48,667 --> 01:08:49,417
I was shocked.
1542
01:08:49,500 --> 01:08:51,083
I turned to my family
and I said,
1543
01:08:51,167 --> 01:08:52,875
"That's the man I saw in the truck."
1544
01:08:54,125 --> 01:08:57,292
But you didn't seem nearly so sure in your
statement to the Warren Commission.
1545
01:08:57,375 --> 01:08:58,375
What about these others?
1546
01:08:58,458 --> 01:09:00,083
You said one of them
might be him.
1547
01:09:01,583 --> 01:09:04,500
They look a little bit like him,
but I'm sure this is the man.
1548
01:09:05,042 --> 01:09:07,542
Well, it was him I was chasing up
the grassy knoll.
1549
01:09:09,375 --> 01:09:11,625
I thought maybe our guys had
shot back.
1550
01:09:11,750 --> 01:09:13,667
- And maybe we got one of them.
1551
01:09:13,750 --> 01:09:15,667
When I got up to the parking lot,
1552
01:09:16,083 --> 01:09:19,458
all I saw were railroad workers and
Dallas' finest.
1553
01:09:21,042 --> 01:09:22,833
Secret Service, ma'am.
You're coming with us.
1554
01:09:22,917 --> 01:09:25,167
I am not! I don't know you.
We got to find this shooter!
1555
01:09:25,250 --> 01:09:27,542
I said, you're coming with us, and I want
those pictures in your pocket.
1556
01:09:27,625 --> 01:09:29,167
- I don't have any, son of a bitch!
1557
01:09:29,250 --> 01:09:31,417
- He put a hurt on me but good.
- Just smile and keep walking.
1558
01:09:31,500 --> 01:09:34,292
But they musta been watching the whole
thing ‘cause they knew everything
1559
01:09:34,375 --> 01:09:36,125
Mary and I had done all day.
1560
01:09:36,625 --> 01:09:39,708
‘Couse I guess I wasn't too hard to find,
wearing that red raincoat.
1561
01:09:39,792 --> 01:09:41,583
How many shots did you say
you heard?
1562
01:09:41,958 --> 01:09:43,375
Four to six.
1563
01:09:43,708 --> 01:09:44,958
That's impossible!
1564
01:09:45,917 --> 01:09:47,292
You heard echoes.
1565
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:48,958
Echoes!
1566
01:09:49,875 --> 01:09:53,458
We have three bullets and three shots
that came from the book depository.
1567
01:09:53,542 --> 01:09:55,083
That's all we're willing to say.
1568
01:09:55,167 --> 01:09:56,042
No, sir.
1569
01:09:56,500 --> 01:09:59,750
I saw a man shooting from over there
behind that fence.
1570
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,583
Now what are you going to do
about that?
1571
01:10:01,667 --> 01:10:03,208
You got to go out there and get him!
1572
01:10:03,292 --> 01:10:04,667
We have that taken care of.
1573
01:10:04,958 --> 01:10:08,625
You only heard three shots, and you're
not to talk about this with anybody.
1574
01:10:09,333 --> 01:10:10,833
No one. Do you understand me?
1575
01:10:11,125 --> 01:10:12,000
Which is strange,
1576
01:10:12,083 --> 01:10:14,792
‘cause it's less than 20 minutes after
the assassination.
1577
01:10:14,875 --> 01:10:15,792
Get her out of here.
1578
01:10:15,917 --> 01:10:18,667
I knew something was
crooked as a dog's hind leg.
1579
01:10:18,917 --> 01:10:19,750
Sure enough...
1580
01:10:19,958 --> 01:10:23,542
When I read my testimony as published
by the Warren Commission,
1581
01:10:23,625 --> 01:10:25,917
it was a fabrication from start
to finish.
1582
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,125
Well, that's what bothers me,
Mr. Garrison, is they've been altered.
1583
01:10:29,333 --> 01:10:30,500
My statements.
1584
01:10:31,375 --> 01:10:33,125
See, this one here says...
1585
01:10:33,208 --> 01:10:35,750
"Mercer could not identify any of the
photographs
1586
01:10:35,833 --> 01:10:37,792
"as being identical with the person that
she had observed
1587
01:10:37,875 --> 01:10:40,083
slouched over the wheel of the green
Ford pickup truck.”
1588
01:10:40,167 --> 01:10:41,125
Well, that is not true.
1589
01:10:41,208 --> 01:10:44,333
I never said any such thing,
I recognized him and I told them so.
1590
01:10:44,750 --> 01:10:46,208
Let's take your time,
be sure.
1591
01:10:46,292 --> 01:10:47,208
I'm sure.
1592
01:10:47,292 --> 01:10:49,292
And then here on the Dallas
sheriff's report,
1593
01:10:49,375 --> 01:10:51,333
this is really strange.
1594
01:10:51,417 --> 01:10:54,083
You see that notarized signature right
there at the bottom of each page?
1595
01:10:55,042 --> 01:10:56,083
That is not my signature.
1596
01:10:56,333 --> 01:10:59,667
And there never was any notary present
during any of my questioning.
1597
01:11:01,542 --> 01:11:04,083
Mrs. Mercer,
as a former FBI man, it's...
1598
01:11:05,833 --> 01:11:07,625
It's difficult to accept this.
1599
01:11:08,875 --> 01:11:11,542
Beverly, tell Mr. Garrison about
the Carousel Club.
1600
01:11:13,958 --> 01:11:14,833
Okay.
1601
01:11:17,917 --> 01:11:19,917
Well, I used to go over there
a lot to see Jack,
1602
01:11:20,000 --> 01:11:22,083
and especially my friend Jada,
who danced there.
1603
01:11:22,625 --> 01:11:26,333
It was the real swinging spot in town.
Everybody came.
1604
01:11:26,875 --> 01:11:30,208
Businessmen, politicians from Austin,
LBJ's friends.
1605
01:11:30,750 --> 01:11:32,708
Dallas was a slowpokin' town
back then!
1606
01:11:32,792 --> 01:11:34,208
I mean you chewed toothpicks,
1607
01:11:34,292 --> 01:11:36,917
- played dominoes, spit, dated policemen,
1608
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:38,792
- but Jack, that was exciting.
1609
01:11:38,875 --> 01:11:40,417
- There were always cops there.
1610
01:11:40,500 --> 01:11:42,000
- Jack liked them around...
1611
01:11:42,083 --> 01:11:44,250
even though he used to throw out
the drunks himself.
1612
01:11:44,333 --> 01:11:46,875
He was kind of a
violent-tempered man, actually.
1613
01:11:46,958 --> 01:11:47,958
Hey, how are ya!
1614
01:11:48,042 --> 01:11:50,708
You know, everybody in those
days knew Jack was in the mob.
1615
01:11:50,792 --> 01:11:52,042
Hey, sweetheart!
1616
01:11:52,125 --> 01:11:53,542
Cops back then...
1617
01:11:53,625 --> 01:11:55,000
- they were bad.
- Hey, Tippit.
1618
01:11:55,083 --> 01:11:57,458
They'd shake you down for the money
in your pocket.
1619
01:11:57,667 --> 01:11:59,042
You know,
there was this one case...
1620
01:11:59,125 --> 01:12:01,208
- Yeah, um, Beverly, what about Lee?
1621
01:12:01,292 --> 01:12:03,000
- Beverly, come over here!
- Well...
1622
01:12:03,083 --> 01:12:06,125
One time I came in, and Jack introduced me
to these two guys.
1623
01:12:06,208 --> 01:12:07,125
- Hi!
- Hi, baby.
1624
01:12:07,208 --> 01:12:08,875
He says, "Beverly, I'd like you
to meet my friend, Lee."
1625
01:12:08,958 --> 01:12:10,500
I want you to meet my friend,
Lee Oswald.
1626
01:12:10,583 --> 01:12:13,292
I don't remember the
other guy's name,
1627
01:12:13,667 --> 01:12:16,083
but he was a weird-looking guy.
1628
01:12:16,458 --> 01:12:18,292
He had these eyebrows.
1629
01:12:18,375 --> 01:12:20,167
He kinda looked like a buzzard!
1630
01:12:21,500 --> 01:12:22,458
Well...
1631
01:12:22,542 --> 01:12:26,000
Lee didn't make much of an impression.
He was...um...
1632
01:12:26,083 --> 01:12:28,208
- Well, he really wasn't very good-looking,
1633
01:12:28,292 --> 01:12:30,583
and he didn't look like he had
any money.
1634
01:12:30,667 --> 01:12:34,333
And he was in a bad mood, so I didn't
pay him much mind.
1635
01:12:36,083 --> 01:12:39,417
You know, I may not remember a name,
but I always remember a face.
1636
01:12:41,208 --> 01:12:43,708
Then a couple weeks later when I saw him
on the television...
1637
01:12:44,833 --> 01:12:46,875
I screamed,
"My God! That's him!"
1638
01:12:47,750 --> 01:12:49,167
"That's Jack's friend!"
1639
01:12:51,042 --> 01:12:52,667
Will you testify,
Beverly?
1640
01:12:55,042 --> 01:12:56,250
I don't think so.
1641
01:12:56,333 --> 01:12:58,458
Now I thought when we came here,
we had an agreement.
1642
01:13:02,042 --> 01:13:04,500
I don't want to become another
statistic, like her.
1643
01:13:04,583 --> 01:13:06,583
We could call you in, Beverly,
we could call you in.
1644
01:13:06,667 --> 01:13:09,917
If they can kill the President of the
United States...
1645
01:13:11,708 --> 01:13:15,333
do you think they're gonna think twice
about a two-bit showgirl like me?
1646
01:13:21,458 --> 01:13:23,458
I understand the pressure you're under,
Beverly.
1647
01:13:24,583 --> 01:13:26,167
Don't think for a minute I don't.
1648
01:13:27,667 --> 01:13:28,875
We both do.
1649
01:13:34,667 --> 01:13:36,792
Mr. Chief Justice...
1650
01:13:36,917 --> 01:13:40,792
You understand that I cannot tell the
truth here, in Dallas?
1651
01:13:41,583 --> 01:13:44,292
There are people here who do not want me
to tell the truth...
1652
01:13:45,083 --> 01:13:46,708
who don't want me to have
a retrial?
1653
01:13:46,792 --> 01:13:50,333
Mr. Ruby, I don't see why you don't
just tell us now.
1654
01:13:50,583 --> 01:13:52,417
My life is in danger!
1655
01:13:52,500 --> 01:13:55,000
If you request that I go back to
Washington with you,
1656
01:13:55,083 --> 01:13:57,750
that is if you want to hear further
testimony from me,
1657
01:13:58,583 --> 01:14:00,167
can you do that,
can you take me with you?
1658
01:14:00,250 --> 01:14:04,750
No, that could not be done.
There would be no safe place for you.
1659
01:14:04,833 --> 01:14:07,417
We're not law enforcement officers.
1660
01:14:08,417 --> 01:14:11,792
Mr. Ruby, there's a great deal at stake
in this matter.
1661
01:14:12,750 --> 01:14:14,708
See,
if I am eliminated...
1662
01:14:14,792 --> 01:14:19,250
there won't be any way of knowing any bit
of the truth pertaining to my situation.
1663
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:23,208
And, consequently, a whole new form
of government
1664
01:14:23,292 --> 01:14:25,083
is going to take over this country.
1665
01:14:25,750 --> 01:14:26,583
Yeah!
1666
01:14:27,000 --> 01:14:29,792
And I know that I won't live to see you
some other time.
1667
01:14:30,792 --> 01:14:32,167
‘Cause I want to tell the truth...
1668
01:14:32,250 --> 01:14:35,125
and then...
I want to leave this world.
1669
01:14:37,833 --> 01:14:41,333
The Zapruder film establishes
three shots in 5.6 seconds.
1670
01:14:42,375 --> 01:14:44,125
Here.
1671
01:14:44,583 --> 01:14:45,792
I'm Oswald.
1672
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:47,792
Time me.
1673
01:14:49,417 --> 01:14:50,375
- Go.
1674
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:56,750
Time?
1675
01:14:56,958 --> 01:14:58,625
Between six and seven seconds.
1676
01:14:58,708 --> 01:15:00,083
And that's without really aiming.
1677
01:15:00,167 --> 01:15:03,833
The key is the second and third shots came
almost right on top of each other.
1678
01:15:04,667 --> 01:15:05,833
It takes a minimum...
1679
01:15:06,917 --> 01:15:09,625
2.3 seconds to recycle this thing.
1680
01:15:09,917 --> 01:15:11,750
The other problem is there was
a tree there...
1681
01:15:12,417 --> 01:15:14,208
blocking the first two shots
1682
01:15:14,292 --> 01:15:16,792
at the time they occur in the
Zapruder film.
1683
01:15:17,167 --> 01:15:19,417
Didn't J. Edgar Hoover say something
about that?
1684
01:15:19,500 --> 01:15:21,000
The leaves had fallen off in
November?
1685
01:15:21,083 --> 01:15:23,458
It was a Texas Live Oak, chief.
1686
01:15:24,042 --> 01:15:26,167
It sheds its leaves the first week
of March.
1687
01:15:27,083 --> 01:15:30,333
You take this Carcano, the world's
worst shoulder weapon,
1688
01:15:30,417 --> 01:15:33,708
and you try to hit a moving target
at 88 yards,
1689
01:15:34,292 --> 01:15:36,833
through heavy foliage. No way.
1690
01:15:36,917 --> 01:15:37,958
Here.
1691
01:15:39,917 --> 01:15:42,292
FBI tried two sets of tests.
1692
01:15:42,375 --> 01:15:45,750
Not one of their sharpshooters could
match Oswald's performance.
1693
01:15:45,833 --> 01:15:47,042
Not one.
1694
01:15:47,167 --> 01:15:49,667
And Oswald was, at best,
a medium shot.
1695
01:15:50,250 --> 01:15:52,375
The scope was defective on it, too.
1696
01:15:52,917 --> 01:15:55,708
I mean this is the whole essence of
the case to me.
1697
01:15:56,167 --> 01:15:58,083
The guy couldn't do the shooting.
1698
01:15:59,083 --> 01:16:00,333
- Nobody could.
1699
01:16:00,750 --> 01:16:03,292
And they sold this lemon to the
American public.
1700
01:16:05,583 --> 01:16:07,875
The Zapruder film was the proof they
didn't count on, Lou.
1701
01:16:09,042 --> 01:16:10,500
We got to get our hands on it.
1702
01:16:12,333 --> 01:16:15,542
That means we have to subpoena
Time-Life.
1703
01:16:16,542 --> 01:16:18,000
Let me ask you something,
Lou.
1704
01:16:18,750 --> 01:16:21,000
Why not just shoot Kennedy coming up
Houston?
1705
01:16:21,375 --> 01:16:23,375
There's plenty of time.
1706
01:16:24,333 --> 01:16:25,333
He's out in the open.
1707
01:16:25,417 --> 01:16:27,208
I know, I keep asking myself the
same thing.
1708
01:16:27,292 --> 01:16:28,208
It's a frontal shot.
1709
01:16:28,292 --> 01:16:30,083
Even if you miss him for
the first shot,
1710
01:16:30,250 --> 01:16:32,125
if he accelerates, you still got him
for the second shot.
1711
01:16:32,208 --> 01:16:34,583
Now, the only reason for waiting
to get him on Elm,
1712
01:16:35,250 --> 01:16:38,417
is you got him in a triangulated
crossfire, all right?
1713
01:16:39,042 --> 01:16:41,875
You put a team there,
down at the fence,
1714
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,833
for a frontal shot,
flat, low trajectory.
1715
01:16:45,167 --> 01:16:50,000
Put a third team down here,
in this building, here, on a low floor,
1716
01:16:50,083 --> 01:16:52,917
when Kennedy gets to the kill zone there,
it's a turkey shoot.
1717
01:16:56,208 --> 01:16:57,417
How many men?
1718
01:16:57,750 --> 01:16:58,667
Okay.
1719
01:16:59,083 --> 01:17:00,500
One shooter,
1720
01:17:00,583 --> 01:17:03,583
one spotter on a radio,
maybe three teams.
1721
01:17:05,708 --> 01:17:08,750
I'd say these were professional riflemen,
too, chief, they're serious people.
1722
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:10,875
Hunters.
1723
01:17:13,167 --> 01:17:14,250
Patient.
1724
01:17:16,208 --> 01:17:18,583
Takes skill to kill with a rifle,
chief.
1725
01:17:21,708 --> 01:17:24,958
You got to figure, that's why there's been
no execution of a chief executive
1726
01:17:25,042 --> 01:17:26,458
with one in 200 years.
1727
01:17:29,458 --> 01:17:30,917
- Three...
1728
01:17:31,833 --> 01:17:32,792
two...
1729
01:17:34,500 --> 01:17:35,375
- one...
1730
01:17:45,208 --> 01:17:47,167
Main Street's over there,
right?
1731
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,250
Original parade route on the way to
the Trade Mart.
1732
01:17:51,625 --> 01:17:52,958
Its too far, right?
1733
01:17:53,042 --> 01:17:54,125
Too far.
1734
01:17:54,417 --> 01:17:57,667
Impossible shot,
so they change the parade route,
1735
01:17:58,458 --> 01:17:59,500
bring him down here,
1736
01:17:59,583 --> 01:18:01,583
moving at a normal
25 miles per hour.
1737
01:18:01,667 --> 01:18:04,750
They knew the motorcade would have to slow
down to about 10 miles per hour
1738
01:18:04,833 --> 01:18:06,542
- to make that turn there,
1739
01:18:06,625 --> 01:18:07,958
and that's where you got him.
1740
01:18:15,583 --> 01:18:17,625
Who do you think changed
the parade route, Lou?
1741
01:18:17,958 --> 01:18:18,875
Beats me.
1742
01:18:18,958 --> 01:18:21,500
Secret Service, city officials,
Dallas police.
1743
01:18:21,958 --> 01:18:23,708
You know who the mayor was
at the time?
1744
01:18:24,042 --> 01:18:25,125
Earle Cabell.
1745
01:18:25,708 --> 01:18:27,167
Guess who his brother is.
1746
01:18:27,250 --> 01:18:28,167
Who?
1747
01:18:28,667 --> 01:18:30,542
- General Charles Cabell.
- Who?
1748
01:18:30,917 --> 01:18:32,750
Deputy Director of the CIA.
1749
01:18:32,833 --> 01:18:36,042
Kennedy fired him in '61 because of the
Bay of Pigs fiasco.
1750
01:18:37,208 --> 01:18:39,792
Moved back to the Pentagon,
called Kennedy a traitor.
1751
01:18:40,583 --> 01:18:42,125
When he came to New Orleans...
1752
01:18:42,417 --> 01:18:45,750
to address the Foreign Policy Association,
you know who introduced him?
1753
01:18:45,833 --> 01:18:46,708
Who?
1754
01:18:47,083 --> 01:18:48,833
Our friend, Clay Shaw.
1755
01:18:48,917 --> 01:18:50,333
And the Warren Commission call him?
1756
01:18:50,750 --> 01:18:52,875
His boss was the one on the Warren
Commission
1757
01:18:52,958 --> 01:18:55,125
who handled all the leads to the
intelligence community.
1758
01:18:55,208 --> 01:18:56,417
Allen Dulles?
1759
01:18:56,500 --> 01:18:58,583
Head of the CIA since '53.
1760
01:18:59,500 --> 01:19:00,958
Kennedy fired them both.
1761
01:19:02,375 --> 01:19:04,625
Cabell was his deputy for nine years.
1762
01:19:05,667 --> 01:19:09,042
Talk about the fox investigating the
chicken coop.
1763
01:19:10,833 --> 01:19:12,375
Now we'll have to subpoena
them both.
1764
01:19:25,583 --> 01:19:26,958
Clay Bertrand?
1765
01:19:27,042 --> 01:19:29,917
Sure, I know him.
Comes around the Quarter.
1766
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,542
Who is he, Joe?
I've been to all the bars,
1767
01:19:32,625 --> 01:19:34,125
nobody wants to talk.
1768
01:19:35,292 --> 01:19:36,917
Why should they talk to you?
1769
01:19:38,458 --> 01:19:42,250
I told your uncle I never met a lawman
who wasn't a punk.
1770
01:19:46,250 --> 01:19:47,750
He's a big-shot businessman.
1771
01:19:47,833 --> 01:19:51,167
I seen him on the TV news a lot,
with all the other big shots.
1772
01:19:52,042 --> 01:19:53,875
The guy's a fag,
you know.
1773
01:19:54,375 --> 01:19:55,708
Goes by another name.
1774
01:19:56,292 --> 01:19:57,500
What's the other name?
1775
01:19:58,458 --> 01:20:00,833
Shaw. Clay Shaw.
1776
01:20:01,417 --> 01:20:03,083
Clay Bertrand is Clay Shaw?
1777
01:20:04,167 --> 01:20:06,167
The guy who used to run
the International Trade Mart?
1778
01:20:06,292 --> 01:20:10,250
Yeah, what's the big mystery?
Everybody down here knows the guy.
1779
01:20:11,708 --> 01:20:13,875
Then, why does he call himself
Bertrand?
1780
01:20:14,042 --> 01:20:16,458
Who gives a shit what
he calls himself.
1781
01:20:17,208 --> 01:20:19,083
Hey, what about that
grand jury thing?
1782
01:20:19,167 --> 01:20:21,042
You think you're gonna give us
a little help on that?
1783
01:20:21,125 --> 01:20:23,292
I hope so. We could use it.
1784
01:20:23,750 --> 01:20:25,167
Your hunch was right, boss.
1785
01:20:25,250 --> 01:20:27,625
But it's even spookier than
we thought.
1786
01:20:27,792 --> 01:20:30,042
Starting in September '63 on,
1787
01:20:30,125 --> 01:20:32,792
- two months before the assassination,
1788
01:20:32,875 --> 01:20:36,083
there are sightings of Oswald
all over Dallas,
1789
01:20:36,167 --> 01:20:37,208
buying ammunition...
1790
01:20:38,375 --> 01:20:39,667
Jasper, cut it out!
1791
01:20:39,750 --> 01:20:42,875
...getting a telescopic sight fixed,
going to rifle ranges.
1792
01:20:42,958 --> 01:20:43,917
Early November,
1793
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:47,000
at a Dallas downtown
Lincoln-Mercury dealership,
1794
01:20:47,083 --> 01:20:49,375
where he tells the salesman,
Albert Bogard,
1795
01:20:49,458 --> 01:20:50,958
Let's take it out for a test drive.
1796
01:20:51,042 --> 01:20:52,292
...despite the fact he has no license,
1797
01:20:52,375 --> 01:20:54,875
and, from what Marina says,
doesn't know how to drive,
1798
01:20:54,958 --> 01:20:57,917
he hits the curves like
A. J. Foyt at the Indy 500.
1799
01:20:58,083 --> 01:21:00,792
Bogard later told his boss he drove
like a madman.
1800
01:21:00,875 --> 01:21:05,500
Hey, 300 bucks down now, Mr. Oswald,
you can drive outta here.
1801
01:21:05,583 --> 01:21:06,500
What?
1802
01:21:07,083 --> 01:21:08,458
For this heap?
1803
01:21:08,583 --> 01:21:12,542
No honest, working man can afford to buy
a car in this goddamn country anymore.
1804
01:21:12,708 --> 01:21:15,042
Maybe I'll have to go to Russia
and buy a car.
1805
01:21:15,125 --> 01:21:18,458
Really dumb dialogue, like he's
trying to draw attention to himself.
1806
01:21:18,542 --> 01:21:20,458
- Yeah, maybe you should.
- A real moron. He walks out.
1807
01:21:20,542 --> 01:21:22,792
Salesman remembers him as
about 5'7"
1808
01:21:22,875 --> 01:21:26,250
but we know from Oswald's draft card
that he was actually 5°11".
1809
01:21:26,542 --> 01:21:28,792
Other witnesses see him on several
separate days
1810
01:21:28,875 --> 01:21:30,500
- at different firing ranges.
1811
01:21:30,583 --> 01:21:32,833
- And one time, November 9th,
1812
01:21:32,917 --> 01:21:34,250
- he decides he needs to practice
1813
01:21:34,333 --> 01:21:36,083
- on the target of the guy next to him.
1814
01:21:36,167 --> 01:21:40,417
I didn't pay two bits for a target just
to have someone else shoot at it.
1815
01:21:40,500 --> 01:21:43,708
- Hey, I'm sorry, buddy.
1816
01:21:44,750 --> 01:21:48,042
I thought I was shooting at that
son-of-a-bitch Kennedy.
1817
01:21:49,083 --> 01:21:51,667
About as subtle as a cockroach crawling
across a white rug.
1818
01:21:51,750 --> 01:21:54,458
Then he shows up at
Silvia Odio's,
1819
01:21:54,542 --> 01:21:58,083
a Cuban lady in Dallas working in the
anti-Castro underground.
1820
01:21:58,250 --> 01:22:01,500
The two Cubans introduce him as
Leon Oswald.
1821
01:22:03,125 --> 01:22:05,167
- Because he is a friend of ours!
- Something about the men bothers her.
1822
01:22:05,250 --> 01:22:09,042
About 48 hours later,
one of the Cubans calls her back.
1823
01:22:09,125 --> 01:22:11,542
What did you think of Leon Oswald
last night?
1824
01:22:11,625 --> 01:22:13,167
I don't care,
I don't know Oswald.
1825
01:22:13,250 --> 01:22:14,333
You know what he said to us?
1826
01:22:14,417 --> 01:22:17,542
He said, "You Cubans don't have any guts,
‘cause Kennedy should have been killed
1827
01:22:17,625 --> 01:22:19,958
after the Bay of Pigs,
and some Cubans should have done it."
1828
01:22:20,042 --> 01:22:21,875
It's like he's giving her information
1829
01:22:21,958 --> 01:22:23,667
- she doesn't even ask for.
- Why did you tell me this?
1830
01:22:23,750 --> 01:22:25,958
She's scared,
doesn't see them again...
1831
01:22:26,042 --> 01:22:29,250
till she sees Oswald's picture
in the paper.
1832
01:22:29,333 --> 01:22:33,125
But the Warren Commission says that
Silvia has bad eyesight
1833
01:22:33,208 --> 01:22:36,542
because they have Oswald in Mexico
at this time,
1834
01:22:36,625 --> 01:22:38,125
trying to get back into Cuba.
1835
01:22:38,208 --> 01:22:42,083
The CIA has a camera outside the
Cuban Embassy
1836
01:22:42,167 --> 01:22:44,292
and they say that this...
1837
01:22:44,833 --> 01:22:47,917
is Oswald in Mexico. Now...
1838
01:22:48,042 --> 01:22:51,958
If this is Oswald,
it must be our third Oswald.
1839
01:22:52,042 --> 01:22:54,458
It's interesting, the extent to
which the Warren Commission went
1840
01:22:54,542 --> 01:22:56,000
to make him a communist.
1841
01:22:56,667 --> 01:22:58,875
I'm beginning to think the whole point
of the Mexican episode
1842
01:22:58,958 --> 01:23:02,125
was to lay the blame at Fidel
Castro's door.
1843
01:23:02,792 --> 01:23:04,292
I mean, if Oswald,
or someone
1844
01:23:04,375 --> 01:23:06,917
purporting to be Oswald,
had gotten into Cuba,
1845
01:23:07,167 --> 01:23:09,125
come back,
then killed the president,
1846
01:23:10,333 --> 01:23:13,417
the American public once again would've
supported a Cuban invasion.
1847
01:23:13,500 --> 01:23:16,500
I even have doubts about this photo,
boss.
1848
01:23:16,583 --> 01:23:19,042
- This pretty much convicted Oswald
1849
01:23:19,125 --> 01:23:23,083
in the public's mind, but Oswald told
Captain Fritz during his interrogation
1850
01:23:23,167 --> 01:23:25,667
- that the photo was fake.
- This is not me.
1851
01:23:25,750 --> 01:23:28,000
That came from Janet
Williams' garage.
1852
01:23:28,083 --> 01:23:29,458
Well, I never saw this picture!
1853
01:23:29,542 --> 01:23:32,458
That is my face, but my face has been
super-imposed.
1854
01:23:32,542 --> 01:23:34,083
The rest of the picture is
not me at all,
1855
01:23:34,167 --> 01:23:35,583
and I have done a lot of
photographic work,
1856
01:23:35,667 --> 01:23:37,792
and that picture was made
by someone else!
1857
01:23:37,917 --> 01:23:40,125
I took this picture to two experts.
1858
01:23:40,750 --> 01:23:43,292
Look at the way the shadows
on the nose...
1859
01:23:43,583 --> 01:23:45,833
fall in a straight line like
it's high noon,
1860
01:23:45,917 --> 01:23:47,833
but the shadow down here on the
ground reads more like
1861
01:23:47,917 --> 01:23:49,583
late afternoon or early morning.
1862
01:23:49,667 --> 01:23:51,125
It's not the same time.
1863
01:23:51,208 --> 01:23:53,833
Also, look at the crop marks
across the chin.
1864
01:23:53,917 --> 01:23:56,917
It seems like this head is pasted onto
somebody else's body,
1865
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,250
implicating him with the rifle
and the gun.
1866
01:23:59,583 --> 01:24:03,125
So who the hell are you,
Alex Hidell or Lee Oswald?
1867
01:24:06,458 --> 01:24:08,375
Well, you're the policeman,
you work it out.
1868
01:24:08,458 --> 01:24:11,417
Now it gets positively spooky.
1869
01:24:11,500 --> 01:24:16,458
In January, 1961 in New Orleans at the
Bolton-Ford dealership,
1870
01:24:16,542 --> 01:24:19,208
when the Oswald we know is
in Russia,
1871
01:24:19,958 --> 01:24:23,375
there's a man using the name
"Oswald" to buy trucks
1872
01:24:23,458 --> 01:24:25,208
for the Friends of Democratic Cuba.
1873
01:24:25,292 --> 01:24:27,042
Salesman never sees him again,
1874
01:24:27,125 --> 01:24:29,417
but guess who's on the articles of
incorporation
1875
01:24:29,500 --> 01:24:31,708
of the Friends for Democratic Cuba?
1876
01:24:31,792 --> 01:24:32,625
Who?
1877
01:24:32,708 --> 01:24:34,083
- Guy Banister.
1878
01:24:34,167 --> 01:24:36,792
- Banister has someone
1879
01:24:36,875 --> 01:24:39,333
using the name "Oswald"
to buy the trucks.
1880
01:24:39,500 --> 01:24:43,750
Hoover, at the FBI, writes a memo
dated June of 1960,
1881
01:24:43,833 --> 01:24:47,667
that someone could be using Oswald's
passport and identity.
1882
01:24:47,750 --> 01:24:50,375
Goddamn, they put Oswald together
from day one!
1883
01:24:50,458 --> 01:24:52,542
Like some dummy corporation
in the Bahamas,
1884
01:24:52,625 --> 01:24:54,458
you just move him around
a board.
1885
01:24:55,125 --> 01:24:56,458
Anybody want to quit?
1886
01:24:58,167 --> 01:25:00,458
All right, dumb question.
Put your hands down.
1887
01:25:02,167 --> 01:25:03,250
Hey, Bill.
1888
01:25:03,500 --> 01:25:05,042
I found Clay Bertrand.
1889
01:25:05,500 --> 01:25:06,250
Who?
1890
01:25:06,333 --> 01:25:08,625
Grab your socks and hose
and pull.
1891
01:25:08,917 --> 01:25:11,000
Clay Bertrand is Clay Shaw.
1892
01:25:11,083 --> 01:25:12,458
- Damn.
- Shaw?
1893
01:25:12,542 --> 01:25:13,792
Director of the Trade Mart?
1894
01:25:13,875 --> 01:25:15,417
- Former director of the Trade Mart.
- Oh, my God.
1895
01:25:15,500 --> 01:25:16,500
That's incredible.
1896
01:25:16,583 --> 01:25:18,500
Can you get some sworn statements?
1897
01:25:18,917 --> 01:25:21,542
Now, that's going to be tough.
Nobody is talking.
1898
01:25:22,542 --> 01:25:24,667
I think we should have him in
for a little chat.
1899
01:25:24,792 --> 01:25:27,208
Oh, honey, I hate for him to get
dragged into this.
1900
01:25:27,292 --> 01:25:30,833
He's done so much for the city, with
all that restoration in the Quarter.
1901
01:25:30,917 --> 01:25:33,042
Remember, we saw him at the Bali
Ha'i fundraiser?
1902
01:25:33,125 --> 01:25:35,083
He seems like such a nice man.
1903
01:25:35,167 --> 01:25:36,958
Honey,
it'll be off the record.
1904
01:25:37,208 --> 01:25:38,792
I'll bring him in on a Sunday.
1905
01:25:40,750 --> 01:25:42,917
Quiet, little chat
between gentlemen.
1906
01:25:59,750 --> 01:26:01,417
In heavy fighting in Vietnam today,
1907
01:26:01,500 --> 01:26:03,542
seven more American soldiers died,
1908
01:26:03,625 --> 01:26:04,875
- and 23 were wounded.
1909
01:26:04,958 --> 01:26:08,042
The body count for this week now stands
at 67 Americans
1910
01:26:08,125 --> 01:26:10,792
and 626 enemy soldiers killed
in action.
1911
01:26:10,875 --> 01:26:11,625
Liz?
1912
01:26:11,708 --> 01:26:13,667
President Johnson, meanwhile,
said he regretted
1913
01:26:13,750 --> 01:26:16,250
there is no end in sight to the war
in Vietnam.
1914
01:26:16,333 --> 01:26:18,083
Five-hundred thousand American troops
1915
01:26:18,167 --> 01:26:19,250
- Out here, honey!
- are now fighting...
1916
01:26:19,333 --> 01:26:20,542
We face more cost...
1917
01:26:21,333 --> 01:26:24,583
more loss... and more agony.
1918
01:26:24,708 --> 01:26:27,333
Come on outside and help the kids
hunt for Easter eggs!
1919
01:26:27,458 --> 01:26:29,958
Oh, honey, that's the kids' job,
all right?
1920
01:26:30,042 --> 01:26:32,500
You know I don't like these
tribal rituals, anyway.
1921
01:26:32,583 --> 01:26:35,042
Besides, I told you I'm talking
to Clay Shaw this morning.
1922
01:26:35,125 --> 01:26:38,083
Honey, we're going to Antoine's
with the kids, like we do every year.
1923
01:26:38,167 --> 01:26:40,125
- No, I told you I was talking to Shaw.
1924
01:26:40,208 --> 01:26:42,792
Well, why in the world did you do it
in the middle of Easter Sunday?
1925
01:26:42,875 --> 01:26:45,458
‘Cause when I scheduled it,
I didn't realize it was a holiday.
1926
01:26:45,542 --> 01:26:47,292
For Pete's sakes, honey,
look at the calendar!
1927
01:26:47,375 --> 01:26:48,917
Liz, honey, you were there,
why didn't you say something?
1928
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:50,708
You said a Sunday,
not Easter Sunday.
1929
01:26:50,958 --> 01:26:52,500
Clay Shaw is important.
1930
01:26:52,583 --> 01:26:53,792
And we're not.
1931
01:26:53,875 --> 01:26:55,167
I didn't say that, Liz.
1932
01:26:56,500 --> 01:26:57,625
I didn't say that.
1933
01:26:58,625 --> 01:27:01,750
You're missing most of your life,
and you don't even know it, honey.
1934
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,500
- The kids are missing out, too.
1935
01:27:04,583 --> 01:27:06,125
- You're not the only one making
- Look, I'll rush,
1936
01:27:06,208 --> 01:27:08,458
- sacrifices around here.
- And I'll be there by 2:00, I promise.
1937
01:27:08,542 --> 01:27:09,542
Okay? Now--
1938
01:27:09,833 --> 01:27:11,625
You just go ahead without me.
1939
01:27:21,250 --> 01:27:23,750
Mr. Garrison, what can I do for you
on Easter Sunday?
1940
01:27:23,917 --> 01:27:26,292
I'm sorry, Mr. Shaw,
to interrupt this holiday,
1941
01:27:26,375 --> 01:27:28,667
but I feel this is a conversation
we might better have
1942
01:27:28,750 --> 01:27:30,750
out of the everyday bustle
in this office.
1943
01:27:31,083 --> 01:27:32,667
I'm not sure I understand.
1944
01:27:32,750 --> 01:27:34,667
Well, in an investigation
we're conducting,
1945
01:27:34,750 --> 01:27:37,125
your name has come up
a number of times.
1946
01:27:37,208 --> 01:27:38,750
I wouldn't imagine where.
1947
01:27:38,833 --> 01:27:41,958
We recently talked to a number
of men who claim to know you.
1948
01:27:42,708 --> 01:27:44,417
Are you acquainted with
a David Logan?
1949
01:27:44,583 --> 01:27:46,375
Uh, no. Never heard of him.
1950
01:27:47,458 --> 01:27:48,583
A Perry Russo?
1951
01:27:48,708 --> 01:27:49,625
No.
1952
01:27:50,792 --> 01:27:52,042
A Willie O'Keefe?
1953
01:27:53,875 --> 01:27:55,875
No, I don't believe I know
anyone by that name.
1954
01:27:56,542 --> 01:28:00,250
Mr. O'Keefe told us he met you at
the Masquerade Bar, down in the Quarter.
1955
01:28:01,208 --> 01:28:02,500
- And several evenings later,
1956
01:28:02,583 --> 01:28:05,208
you had him over for dinner
at your apartment on Dauphine Street.
1957
01:28:05,292 --> 01:28:06,250
Do you recall that?
1958
01:28:06,333 --> 01:28:08,250
Of course not.
I don't know this man.
1959
01:28:09,500 --> 01:28:10,792
Be still my heart.
1960
01:28:11,167 --> 01:28:13,750
Obviously then, I wouldn't have him
over for dinner.
1961
01:28:13,833 --> 01:28:16,000
- Hope you like squab.
1962
01:28:17,458 --> 01:28:19,125
- Champagne?
- Yeah.
1963
01:28:19,208 --> 01:28:23,208
Perhaps a few more details about the
evening will refresh your memory.
1964
01:28:29,583 --> 01:28:32,833
Mr. O'Keefe told us dinner was served
by a uniformed waiter.
1965
01:28:33,042 --> 01:28:34,125
A colored man.
1966
01:28:34,917 --> 01:28:37,875
He particularly remembered that you sat
at one end and he at the other,
1967
01:28:37,958 --> 01:28:41,583
which he found rather unusual because
the table was so long.
1968
01:28:42,375 --> 01:28:43,708
How was your mousse?
1969
01:28:43,792 --> 01:28:45,875
Does that bring back memories
of Willie O'Keefe?
1970
01:28:46,292 --> 01:28:47,333
Not at all.
1971
01:28:48,208 --> 01:28:52,542
But on the other hand, I do have a lovely
Chippendale dining table
1972
01:28:52,625 --> 01:28:56,375
and I often have a friend over sitting at
one end, while I sit at the other.
1973
01:28:56,458 --> 01:29:00,292
It's precisely the point of a long
dining table.
1974
01:29:00,375 --> 01:29:03,042
The splendor of the meal adds to
the enjoyment of it.
1975
01:29:03,583 --> 01:29:05,708
I would imagine that a
uniformed waiter helps.
1976
01:29:05,792 --> 01:29:07,083
It adds a taste of elegance,
1977
01:29:07,167 --> 01:29:09,958
for which I must confess a weakness,
now and then.
1978
01:29:10,750 --> 01:29:12,208
I call him Smedley.
1979
01:29:13,125 --> 01:29:14,583
Real name is Frankie Jenkins,
1980
01:29:14,667 --> 01:29:18,000
but I could hardly imagine anything
more uncouth during dinner...
1981
01:29:18,333 --> 01:29:22,000
than my turning toward the kitchen
and hollering "Frankie!"
1982
01:29:27,250 --> 01:29:29,292
Where is all this leading to,
Mr. Garrison?
1983
01:29:29,375 --> 01:29:31,708
After dinner,
you paid him to have sex.
1984
01:29:35,083 --> 01:29:36,875
That is absolute nonsense.
1985
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:42,333
The Quarter is filled with vivid
imaginations, my dear Mr. Garrison.
1986
01:29:42,417 --> 01:29:44,375
Grimy young hoodlums,
who will say and do
1987
01:29:44,458 --> 01:29:46,333
- anything, as you well know.
- In the course of that night,
1988
01:29:46,417 --> 01:29:49,417
Mr. O'Keefe told us that a man named
David Ferrie stopped by the house
1989
01:29:49,500 --> 01:29:51,333
along with another young man.
1990
01:29:53,125 --> 01:29:54,875
- Who?
- David Ferrie.
1991
01:29:55,167 --> 01:29:58,333
No, I don't believe I know
anyone by that name.
1992
01:29:58,417 --> 01:30:01,917
Course never having met Mr. O'Keefe
I could hardly have met Mr. Ferrie.
1993
01:30:10,292 --> 01:30:12,250
- Here you go. Here you go.
1994
01:30:15,208 --> 01:30:17,667
- You're mine, Mary. You're mine.
1995
01:30:17,750 --> 01:30:20,625
The four of you partied early into
the morning hours.
1996
01:30:20,958 --> 01:30:22,667
Look at this picture.
1997
01:30:23,542 --> 01:30:26,167
I'm sure I've never met anyone of such
a bizarre appearance.
1998
01:30:30,583 --> 01:30:32,292
- Come here, bitch!
1999
01:30:32,375 --> 01:30:34,875
- Come here!
2000
01:30:34,958 --> 01:30:36,208
- The only way you get this
2001
01:30:36,292 --> 01:30:37,667
- is do exactly what I say.
2002
01:30:37,750 --> 01:30:39,250
- I'm the man, don't ever forget it!
2003
01:30:39,333 --> 01:30:40,875
- You want it? You want it?
2004
01:30:41,167 --> 01:30:43,542
Does the name Clay Bertrand
mean anything to you?
2005
01:30:43,625 --> 01:30:46,167
- Clay Bertrand... Clay Bertrand.
- Clay Bertrand.
2006
01:30:46,250 --> 01:30:48,167
I believe there was a man with a
name similar to that,
2007
01:30:48,250 --> 01:30:50,667
worked over at the Chamber of Commerce.
Is that the man you had in mind?
2008
01:30:50,750 --> 01:30:51,958
No, it was not.
2009
01:30:53,417 --> 01:30:55,875
Mr. Shaw,
can you identify this man?
2010
01:30:55,958 --> 01:30:56,708
Naturally.
2011
01:30:56,792 --> 01:31:00,125
Are you claiming, Mr. Garrison,
that Mr. Oswald also had dinner with me?
2012
01:31:00,208 --> 01:31:03,250
Mr. Shaw, have you ever met
Lee Harvey Oswald?
2013
01:31:03,333 --> 01:31:07,167
You really have me consorting with
a sordid cast of characters.
2014
01:31:07,250 --> 01:31:09,417
- Just answer the question.
- Of course not.
2015
01:31:10,375 --> 01:31:12,167
Such a pity, that assassination.
2016
01:31:12,250 --> 01:31:14,542
In fact,
I admired President Kennedy.
2017
01:31:14,625 --> 01:31:17,583
A man of true panache,
wife of impeccable taste.
2018
01:31:17,667 --> 01:31:19,375
- I'm hungry!
- Well, why don't we just go ahead
2019
01:31:19,458 --> 01:31:21,792
and order without your daddy,
I don't think he'll mind.
2020
01:31:21,875 --> 01:31:23,375
I want a Shirley Temple!
2021
01:31:23,542 --> 01:31:25,875
- Oh, kids, put your water guns away.
- Me, too!
2022
01:31:26,583 --> 01:31:29,042
- When's Daddy coming, Mama?
2023
01:31:29,250 --> 01:31:30,750
Soon, he's coming soon.
2024
01:31:30,833 --> 01:31:34,333
He's really sorry he couldn't start
with us, but he promised he'd be here.
2025
01:31:34,417 --> 01:31:37,333
- Daddy never keeps his promises.
2026
01:31:37,417 --> 01:31:39,458
- I'm bored!
2027
01:31:41,417 --> 01:31:44,500
Mr. Shaw, this is an Italian
newspaper article saying you were
2028
01:31:44,583 --> 01:31:47,542
a member of the Board of Centro
Mondo Commerciale in Italy,
2029
01:31:48,333 --> 01:31:52,583
that this company was a creature of the
CIA for the transfer of funds in Italy
2030
01:31:52,667 --> 01:31:55,167
for illegal political-espionage
activity.
2031
01:31:55,708 --> 01:31:59,625
It says that this company was expelled
from Italy for those activities.
2032
01:31:59,792 --> 01:32:01,417
I'm well aware of that asinine article.
2033
01:32:01,500 --> 01:32:05,083
I'm thinking very seriously of suing
that rag of a newspaper.
2034
01:32:05,167 --> 01:32:07,833
It also says that this company is
linked to the Schlumberger Tool Company,
2035
01:32:07,917 --> 01:32:09,125
here in Houma, Louisiana,
2036
01:32:09,208 --> 01:32:11,833
which helped provide arms
to David Ferrie and his Cubans.
2037
01:32:11,917 --> 01:32:13,625
Mr. Garrison, you're reaching.
2038
01:32:13,792 --> 01:32:14,583
Am I?
2039
01:32:14,833 --> 01:32:18,625
I'm an international businessman.
The Trade Mart, which I founded,
2040
01:32:18,708 --> 01:32:21,708
is America's commercial pipeline
to Latin America.
2041
01:32:21,792 --> 01:32:23,375
I trade everywhere.
2042
01:32:23,458 --> 01:32:24,958
I am accused...
2043
01:32:25,042 --> 01:32:27,250
as are all businessmen,
of all things.
2044
01:32:27,375 --> 01:32:31,708
I somehow go about my business,
make money, help society the best I can,
2045
01:32:31,792 --> 01:32:34,167
and try to promote free trade
in this world.
2046
01:32:34,292 --> 01:32:35,500
Mr. Shaw...
2047
01:32:35,792 --> 01:32:38,875
have you ever been a contract agent for
the Central Intelligence Agency?
2048
01:32:43,625 --> 01:32:44,958
And if I were...
2049
01:32:45,875 --> 01:32:47,750
Mr. Garrison, do you believe...
2050
01:32:48,167 --> 01:32:49,875
I would be here today...
2051
01:32:50,292 --> 01:32:52,333
talking to somebody like you?
2052
01:32:55,875 --> 01:32:56,917
No.
2053
01:32:58,083 --> 01:32:59,917
People like you don't have to,
I guess.
2054
01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:00,958
May I go?
2055
01:33:01,042 --> 01:33:03,833
People like you, they just walk
between the raindrops.
2056
01:33:04,833 --> 01:33:05,750
May I go?
2057
01:33:08,208 --> 01:33:09,250
Yes.
2058
01:33:17,542 --> 01:33:20,292
Regardless of what you may think of me,
Mr. Garrison,
2059
01:33:20,375 --> 01:33:23,000
I am a patriot first and foremost.
2060
01:33:23,083 --> 01:33:24,958
I've spent half my life in the
United States military
2061
01:33:25,042 --> 01:33:27,042
serving and defending this great
country, Mr. Shaw,
2062
01:33:27,125 --> 01:33:28,708
- and you're the first person I ever met
2063
01:33:28,792 --> 01:33:31,292
who considered it an act of patriotism
to murder his own president.
2064
01:33:31,375 --> 01:33:33,667
Now, just a minute, sir.
You are way out of line.
2065
01:33:33,750 --> 01:33:37,125
I'm sorry, Mr. Shaw, it's getting late.
That's all the questions we have.
2066
01:33:37,458 --> 01:33:40,292
Thank you for your honesty
and for coming in today.
2067
01:33:40,375 --> 01:33:42,792
I enjoyed meeting with you
gentlemen.
2068
01:33:43,208 --> 01:33:46,000
And you, Miss Cox.
It was most pleasant.
2069
01:33:51,542 --> 01:33:53,250
I wish to extend to each of you,
2070
01:33:53,333 --> 01:33:56,625
and to each of your families,
my best wishes for a happy Easter.
2071
01:34:05,292 --> 01:34:07,708
"One may smile and smile
and be a villain."
2072
01:34:09,292 --> 01:34:11,167
Goddammit,
we got one of ‘em.
2073
01:34:12,208 --> 01:34:13,250
Did you see that?
2074
01:34:29,917 --> 01:34:31,833
- Hi, honey.
- Hi.
2075
01:34:35,958 --> 01:34:38,625
- Tough day.
- Daddy, where you been?
2076
01:34:39,750 --> 01:34:41,167
My sympathies.
2077
01:34:41,333 --> 01:34:44,792
Liz, I'm really sorry, but the meeting
took much longer than expected.
2078
01:34:45,083 --> 01:34:46,375
Just a second, Jasper.
2079
01:34:46,625 --> 01:34:49,917
We waited for hours, Jim!
2080
01:34:51,458 --> 01:34:52,917
Honey, you could've telephoned.
2081
01:34:53,000 --> 01:34:55,708
I know, I don't know what to say,
except I'm sorry, all right?
2082
01:34:55,792 --> 01:34:57,875
I just don't have rabbits
on my mind.
2083
01:34:58,542 --> 01:34:59,583
You know what I think?
2084
01:34:59,667 --> 01:35:00,542
Daddy?
2085
01:35:00,625 --> 01:35:03,500
I think you care more about John
Kennedy than your own family!
2086
01:35:03,875 --> 01:35:06,542
All day, the kids are asking,
"Where's Daddy?"
2087
01:35:06,625 --> 01:35:08,667
What am I supposed to
tell your kids, Jim!
2088
01:35:08,750 --> 01:35:10,167
- Papa?
- I don't know what to tell them.
2089
01:35:10,250 --> 01:35:11,667
How about the truth?
2090
01:35:11,750 --> 01:35:13,917
I'm doing my job to make sure they can
grow up in a country,
2091
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:15,292
- Papa?
- where justice won't be an arcane,
2092
01:35:15,375 --> 01:35:17,667
vanished idea they read about
in history books.
2093
01:35:17,750 --> 01:35:19,167
- Oh, that sounds real dandy.
- Like the dinosaurs,
2094
01:35:19,250 --> 01:35:21,125
- or the lost continent of Atlantis.
- But it doesn't replace a husband
2095
01:35:21,208 --> 01:35:22,750
or a father on Easter Sunday.
2096
01:35:23,125 --> 01:35:25,000
Well, it's gonna get worse,
Liz.
2097
01:35:37,667 --> 01:35:39,000
Do you know who killed
President Kennedy?
2098
01:35:39,083 --> 01:35:40,667
Was there a conspiracy here
in New Orleans?
2099
01:35:40,750 --> 01:35:43,208
- Excuse me, gentlemen.
- I don't know what you're talking about.
2100
01:35:43,292 --> 01:35:44,708
- Get out of here!
2101
01:35:45,042 --> 01:35:47,625
- Watch out! Watch out!
2102
01:35:49,583 --> 01:35:52,083
Congratulations, boss,
you're page one.
2103
01:35:52,375 --> 01:35:53,125
And it ain't pretty.
2104
01:35:53,208 --> 01:35:55,042
It says we've spend more than
8,000 dollars
2105
01:35:55,125 --> 01:35:56,875
on unexplained travel
and investigative
2106
01:35:56,958 --> 01:35:59,500
expenses in a period
since November 1966.
2107
01:35:59,583 --> 01:36:00,500
Goddamn!
2108
01:36:00,958 --> 01:36:02,250
They went to the public records.
2109
01:36:02,333 --> 01:36:05,250
They got the vouchers that we requested
for withdrawals.
2110
01:36:05,375 --> 01:36:07,167
Shaw must've gotten them on our tail.
2111
01:36:07,250 --> 01:36:09,750
It could've been Ferrie, Martin,
Andrews, any of ‘em.
2112
01:36:09,833 --> 01:36:10,583
Damnit!
2113
01:36:10,667 --> 01:36:14,500
We didn't talk to Ruby ‘cause of them and
they're on our asses for a measly 8,000!
2114
01:36:14,583 --> 01:36:16,500
They hunted down the news,
it's their business.
2115
01:36:16,583 --> 01:36:19,292
Well, you'd at least think they'd attempt
to understand what we're trying to do!
2116
01:36:19,375 --> 01:36:21,833
Well, getting angry doesn't accomplish
a damn thing!
2117
01:36:24,333 --> 01:36:26,000
Son of a bitch.
2118
01:36:26,667 --> 01:36:28,458
Well, this changes everything,
now, doesn't it?
2119
01:36:29,292 --> 01:36:30,375
What do you mean?
2120
01:36:32,083 --> 01:36:33,000
Well...
2121
01:36:33,167 --> 01:36:36,667
Either we pull out now, or we go through
some heavy flack together.
2122
01:36:39,625 --> 01:36:43,667
Bear in mind, each of you, this may affect
the rest of your careers, your lives.
2123
01:36:44,875 --> 01:36:47,125
If any one of you want to
pull out now,
2124
01:36:47,417 --> 01:36:50,333
I assure you I will bear no ill feelings
towards that person
2125
01:36:50,417 --> 01:36:52,875
and will reassign you to
regular duties.
2126
01:36:56,167 --> 01:36:57,208
There it is, then.
2127
01:36:57,875 --> 01:36:58,833
Thank you.
2128
01:36:58,917 --> 01:37:00,375
That means a great deal to me.
2129
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:08,292
I'm giving this office 6,000 dollars from
my National Guard savings account,
2130
01:37:08,458 --> 01:37:09,875
SO we cah continue.
2131
01:37:10,833 --> 01:37:13,917
I'll make speeches where I can
and pick up additional money.
2132
01:37:14,417 --> 01:37:16,167
Mr. Garrison,
what shall I tell them?
2133
01:37:16,250 --> 01:37:17,625
- They're piling up outside the door.
2134
01:37:17,708 --> 01:37:20,542
They want a statement, the phones are
going crazier than bugs on a cake.
2135
01:37:20,625 --> 01:37:23,625
Neither confirm, deny,
nor discuss, Sharon.
2136
01:37:25,333 --> 01:37:27,292
Goodbye, ladies, gentlemen.
2137
01:37:29,083 --> 01:37:31,583
I'm going home to where I can get
a decent day's work done.
2138
01:37:31,917 --> 01:37:34,000
Mr. Garrison's own silence on the subject
2139
01:37:34,083 --> 01:37:35,625
has raised some interesting questions.
2140
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:38,167
With taxpayer money, has he uncovered
2141
01:37:38,250 --> 01:37:39,792
- some valuable new evidence,
2142
01:37:40,125 --> 01:37:42,042
- or is he merely saving the information
2143
01:37:42,125 --> 01:37:44,375
which will gain, for him,
exposure at a national level?
2144
01:37:47,500 --> 01:37:48,583
Yeah?
2145
01:37:48,667 --> 01:37:50,583
Did your office plant
that garbage in the fuckin' paper?
2146
01:37:50,667 --> 01:37:52,792
- Who is this?
- You know exactly who the fuck this is!
2147
01:37:52,875 --> 01:37:54,167
- Dave?
- Yeah, you got it.
2148
01:37:54,250 --> 01:37:55,083
Listen...
2149
01:37:55,167 --> 01:37:57,292
Since you're the only straight shooter
in that fuckin' office,
2150
01:37:57,375 --> 01:37:59,375
I'd like a fuckin' answer
from you. Did you plant it?
2151
01:37:59,458 --> 01:38:00,833
Dave, you think
we're out of our minds?
2152
01:38:00,917 --> 01:38:02,375
The whole building's been a zoo
since that broke.
2153
01:38:02,458 --> 01:38:04,417
We can't get a thing done.
Reporters crawling everywhere.
2154
01:38:04,500 --> 01:38:05,542
You think we want that?
2155
01:38:05,625 --> 01:38:07,250
Somebody planted that fuckin' story!
2156
01:38:07,333 --> 01:38:10,083
Somebody tipped off the press I'm one
of fuckin' Garrison's suspects.
2157
01:38:10,208 --> 01:38:12,375
I can't-- I can't go home!
2158
01:38:12,458 --> 01:38:13,625
The fuckin' maggots
are everywhere!
2159
01:38:13,708 --> 01:38:15,417
Do you know what you've done
to me?
2160
01:38:15,500 --> 01:38:16,833
Calm down, Dave, what?
2161
01:38:16,917 --> 01:38:19,542
From here on,
I am a fuckin' dead man.
2162
01:38:19,625 --> 01:38:21,042
- A dead man!
- What are you talking about?
2163
01:38:21,125 --> 01:38:23,333
Dave, you even weren't mentioned in the
story. Don't jump to conclusions.
2164
01:38:23,750 --> 01:38:27,125
Look, meet me in the lobby of
the Fontainebleau in 20 minutes.
2165
01:38:27,500 --> 01:38:30,333
I guarantee you the boss will
protect you.
2166
01:38:30,417 --> 01:38:32,625
He likes you,
he likes your mind.
2167
01:38:36,375 --> 01:38:39,167
I guess, you know, I just don't know who
to trust anymore, you know?
2168
01:38:39,250 --> 01:38:44,208
I suppose I could use a pot of hot coffee
and a few packs of Luckies.
2169
01:38:45,083 --> 01:38:46,750
So you got anything new in the
investigation?
2170
01:38:46,833 --> 01:38:48,000
Who you scared of,
Dave?
2171
01:38:48,083 --> 01:38:49,375
Me? Everybody.
2172
01:38:49,792 --> 01:38:52,167
- Agency, mob, Cubans.
2173
01:38:52,708 --> 01:38:55,000
That's it, follow the Cubans.
Check 'em out.
2174
01:38:55,708 --> 01:38:57,333
Here, Miami, Dallas.
2175
01:38:58,458 --> 01:39:00,833
Check out a guy named
Eladio del Valle.
2176
01:39:00,917 --> 01:39:04,125
He used to be my paymaster when I
flew missions into Cuba.
2177
01:39:04,542 --> 01:39:06,625
He's somewhere in Miami.
You're on the right track.
2178
01:39:06,875 --> 01:39:08,542
Hey, hey!
Don't be writing this down.
2179
01:39:08,625 --> 01:39:11,375
I ain't cooperating here with no one.
What's going on here?
2180
01:39:11,458 --> 01:39:14,125
There's a death warrant for me!
Don't you get it?
2181
01:39:14,667 --> 01:39:15,583
Damn!
2182
01:39:15,667 --> 01:39:17,500
Wait a minute, you ain't bugged,
are you?
2183
01:39:17,583 --> 01:39:20,375
Son of a bitch, Lou.
Are you?
2184
01:39:20,458 --> 01:39:21,292
Dave.
2185
01:39:21,375 --> 01:39:23,208
I always play square.
No bugs.
2186
01:39:23,292 --> 01:39:26,375
I'd love you to go on the record, but I'm
in no hurry.
2187
01:39:26,458 --> 01:39:27,292
- Whenever you're ready.
2188
01:39:27,458 --> 01:39:29,625
I haven't slept since
that shit article come out.
2189
01:39:29,708 --> 01:39:31,542
Why'd you guys have to go and get me
involved with this?
2190
01:39:31,625 --> 01:39:34,042
Did we get you involved or did
Clay Shaw, Dave?
2191
01:39:34,125 --> 01:39:35,792
Cocksuckin' faggot!
2192
01:39:35,875 --> 01:39:37,958
- He got me by the balls.
- What do you mean?
2193
01:39:38,458 --> 01:39:40,625
You know, photographs,
compromising stuff.
2194
01:39:40,833 --> 01:39:43,417
And he'll use ‘em, too.
The Agency plays for keeps.
2195
01:39:43,917 --> 01:39:46,833
I knew Oswald.
He was in my Civil Air Patrol unit.
2196
01:39:46,917 --> 01:39:49,667
I taught him everything.
He was a "wannabe," you know?
2197
01:39:49,750 --> 01:39:52,167
Nobody really liked him ‘cause they
thought he was a snitch.
2198
01:39:52,250 --> 01:39:53,417
I treated him good.
2199
01:39:53,500 --> 01:39:56,625
He'd talk about his kid, you know, really
wanted her to grow up with a chance, but--
2200
01:39:56,708 --> 01:39:57,792
- What's this?
2201
01:39:57,875 --> 01:39:59,125
What's going on here?
2202
01:40:02,833 --> 01:40:04,125
Ain't nobody coming in here.
2203
01:40:04,458 --> 01:40:06,417
- Just room service.
2204
01:40:07,792 --> 01:40:09,125
Black, black-- just give it to me.
2205
01:40:09,208 --> 01:40:09,958
Black.
2206
01:40:10,042 --> 01:40:11,208
- Shit.
2207
01:40:11,292 --> 01:40:12,750
My neck is killing me.
2208
01:40:12,833 --> 01:40:14,583
I got cancer,
I've had it for years.
2209
01:40:14,667 --> 01:40:16,792
I been working with mice,
you know, trying to find a cure.
2210
01:40:17,125 --> 01:40:19,417
Did you ever work for the CIA?
2211
01:40:19,875 --> 01:40:23,000
You make it sound like some remote fuckin'
experience in ancient history.
2212
01:40:23,625 --> 01:40:25,833
- Man, you don't leave the Agency.
2213
01:40:26,625 --> 01:40:28,625
Once you're in,
they got you for life.
2214
01:40:29,208 --> 01:40:30,000
Shaw?
2215
01:40:30,083 --> 01:40:31,958
Shaw?
Shaw's an "untouchable."
2216
01:40:32,042 --> 01:40:33,083
Highest clearance.
2217
01:40:33,167 --> 01:40:36,333
Shaw, Oswald, the Cubans--
all Agency.
2218
01:40:37,375 --> 01:40:38,292
What about Ruby?
2219
01:40:41,750 --> 01:40:43,417
Jack?
Jack was a pimp.
2220
01:40:43,667 --> 01:40:45,417
He was a bagman for
the Dallas mob.
2221
01:40:45,500 --> 01:40:47,875
He used to run guns to Castro
when he was still on our side.
2222
01:40:48,958 --> 01:40:50,958
We almost had Castro with us,
then we tried to whack him.
2223
01:40:51,292 --> 01:40:53,042
Everybody's flipping sides
all the time.
2224
01:40:53,125 --> 01:40:55,000
It's fun and games, man,
fun and games.
2225
01:40:55,083 --> 01:40:57,167
What about the mob, Dave?
How do they figure in this?
2226
01:40:57,250 --> 01:40:58,625
They're Agency, too, man.
2227
01:40:58,708 --> 01:41:00,708
CIA and the mafia working together,
2228
01:41:00,792 --> 01:41:02,125
trying to whack out the Beard.
2229
01:41:02,208 --> 01:41:04,417
Mutual interests.
They been doing it for years!
2230
01:41:04,500 --> 01:41:06,625
There's more to this than
you could dream!
2231
01:41:06,708 --> 01:41:08,958
Check out something called
"Mongoose."
2232
01:41:09,042 --> 01:41:10,417
"Operation Mongoose."
2233
01:41:10,542 --> 01:41:12,542
Government, Pentagon stuff.
2234
01:41:12,958 --> 01:41:14,167
They're in charge.
2235
01:41:14,250 --> 01:41:17,458
But who the fuck pulls whose chain?
Who the fuck knows.
2236
01:41:17,667 --> 01:41:20,750
"Oh, what a deadly web we weave
when we practice to deceive.”
2237
01:41:20,833 --> 01:41:22,083
Then who killed the president?
2238
01:41:22,167 --> 01:41:24,667
Oh, man,
why don't you fuckin' stop it!
2239
01:41:24,750 --> 01:41:25,500
Shit!
2240
01:41:25,583 --> 01:41:26,458
Who did--
2241
01:41:26,542 --> 01:41:28,500
This is too fuckin' big for you,
you know that?
2242
01:41:28,583 --> 01:41:31,333
This is-- who did the president?
Who killed Kennedy?
2243
01:41:31,417 --> 01:41:32,458
Fuck, man!
2244
01:41:32,542 --> 01:41:33,667
It's a mystery!
2245
01:41:33,750 --> 01:41:36,792
It's a mystery wrapped in a riddle
inside an enigma!
2246
01:41:36,875 --> 01:41:39,500
The fuckin' shooters don't even know!
Don't you get it?
2247
01:41:39,958 --> 01:41:41,167
Fuck, man!
2248
01:41:41,917 --> 01:41:43,333
I can't keep talking like this.
2249
01:41:43,417 --> 01:41:45,000
They're gonna fuckin' kill me!
2250
01:41:45,292 --> 01:41:47,167
I'm gonna fuckin' die!
2251
01:41:51,333 --> 01:41:52,375
Son of a bitch!
2252
01:41:52,458 --> 01:41:54,167
- It's all right, David.
2253
01:41:55,958 --> 01:41:58,000
I don't know what happened.
2254
01:41:58,875 --> 01:42:00,083
Fuck!
2255
01:42:06,625 --> 01:42:09,167
All I wanted in the world...
2256
01:42:11,167 --> 01:42:13,708
was to be a Catholic priest,
2257
01:42:14,458 --> 01:42:16,083
live in a monastery,
2258
01:42:16,167 --> 01:42:17,958
pray, serve God.
2259
01:42:19,333 --> 01:42:21,542
I had one fuckin'...
2260
01:42:22,875 --> 01:42:25,125
one terrible fuckin' weakness!
2261
01:42:25,542 --> 01:42:27,542
And they defrocked me!
2262
01:42:31,333 --> 01:42:34,583
Then I started to lose everything.
2263
01:42:36,500 --> 01:42:37,917
It's gonna be okay, Dave.
2264
01:42:38,333 --> 01:42:41,750
You just talk to us on the record and
we'll protect you, I guarantee it.
2265
01:42:47,750 --> 01:42:49,417
They'd get to you, too.
2266
01:42:50,917 --> 01:42:52,458
They'll destroy you.
2267
01:42:54,500 --> 01:42:56,042
They're untouchable, man.
2268
01:42:59,458 --> 01:43:03,125
I'm so fuckin' exhausted,
I can't see straight.
2269
01:43:14,458 --> 01:43:16,042
Out of here!
2270
01:43:16,417 --> 01:43:17,750
Oh, Lord.
2271
01:43:17,833 --> 01:43:19,458
A little early for Mardi Gras,
isn't it?
2272
01:43:19,542 --> 01:43:21,667
Paris Match,
largest magazine in France.
2273
01:43:21,750 --> 01:43:25,333
My name is Bulgarinov, I am with
Literaturnaya Gazeta of Moscow.
2274
01:43:25,417 --> 01:43:27,917
Victoria Taylor,
British Private Eye.
2275
01:43:28,417 --> 01:43:31,292
Do you know who shot the president?
Mr. Garrison is too busy...
2276
01:43:31,375 --> 01:43:32,167
Boss, I'm telling you,
2277
01:43:32,250 --> 01:43:34,708
something or somebody is putting
tremendous heat on David Ferrie.
2278
01:43:34,792 --> 01:43:37,625
If we sit on our behinds any longer,
I don't think the guy's gonna hold on.
2279
01:43:37,708 --> 01:43:38,917
Look at this bullshit!
2280
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:40,458
He keeps changing what he says.
2281
01:43:40,542 --> 01:43:42,875
We can't possibly call him
to a grand jury.
2282
01:43:42,958 --> 01:43:44,250
Susie, watch the language,
would you please?
2283
01:43:44,333 --> 01:43:46,583
My instinct is that Ferrie is gonna
keep on deteriorating,
2284
01:43:46,667 --> 01:43:48,833
and we'll end up getting more out of him
when he finally cracks.
2285
01:43:48,917 --> 01:43:50,042
Oh, bullshit!
Now, if you start to--
2286
01:43:50,125 --> 01:43:51,875
If we call him in now,
he might freeze up
2287
01:43:51,958 --> 01:43:53,500
and we'll lose the best shot
we ever had.
2288
01:43:53,583 --> 01:43:55,542
You guys don't get it, do you?
He can't go down any further.
2289
01:43:55,625 --> 01:43:57,333
We got to protect him full time.
2290
01:43:57,417 --> 01:43:59,583
We don't have enough funds
to protect anybody full time.
2291
01:43:59,667 --> 01:44:01,667
I know what you're going through
with Ferrie, Lou, all right?
2292
01:44:01,750 --> 01:44:03,000
We'll talk tomorrow.
2293
01:44:03,417 --> 01:44:04,833
I got a plane to catch.
2294
01:44:05,167 --> 01:44:06,583
- Going to Washington.
2295
01:44:06,875 --> 01:44:07,708
Washington?
2296
01:44:07,875 --> 01:44:11,667
Yeah, an interesting lead says he's
closely connected to these events,
2297
01:44:11,750 --> 01:44:13,125
but he won't come down here.
2298
01:44:13,208 --> 01:44:16,708
I'm onto Ferrie's Cuban paymaster,
Eladio del Valle, in Miami.
2299
01:44:16,792 --> 01:44:19,542
I tell ya, I need more men.
I got to get him in, boss.
2300
01:44:19,625 --> 01:44:21,375
I can't even pull the teams
to watch Ferrie.
2301
01:44:21,458 --> 01:44:23,042
Listen,
I gave this man my word.
2302
01:44:23,125 --> 01:44:24,708
This is our case!
2303
01:44:24,792 --> 01:44:27,333
- Hold it! Hold it!
- For God's sake, Numa--
2304
01:44:28,250 --> 01:44:29,708
I got something to show you.
2305
01:44:30,250 --> 01:44:32,667
I think you'll find it
very interesting.
2306
01:44:32,750 --> 01:44:33,833
Numa, what is that thing?
2307
01:44:35,125 --> 01:44:37,542
Williams found this in your office.
2308
01:44:37,625 --> 01:44:40,292
We think the conference room is also
bugged, maybe the phones.
2309
01:44:40,375 --> 01:44:42,125
We're gonna have to debug
the whole place.
2310
01:44:42,208 --> 01:44:44,833
Bugging the DA's office!
This is outrageous!
2311
01:44:44,917 --> 01:44:46,167
Mr. lvon, it's for you.
It's urgent.
2312
01:44:46,250 --> 01:44:48,833
You can believe what you want to,
but we're gonna have to be more careful.
2313
01:44:48,917 --> 01:44:51,625
All these new volunteers, I mean,
any one of them could be--
2314
01:44:51,708 --> 01:44:54,125
Okay, Numa, you handle it, all right?
I don't have...
2315
01:44:54,375 --> 01:44:56,167
- I don't have time for this nonsense.
2316
01:44:58,250 --> 01:44:59,333
Well, we--
2317
01:44:59,417 --> 01:45:02,292
We've obviously got the bastards
worried now.
2318
01:45:04,500 --> 01:45:06,458
I'm coming to Washington.
2319
01:45:12,000 --> 01:45:13,583
Dave Ferrie's dead.
2320
01:45:14,458 --> 01:45:16,833
Found his body at his apartment
a couple hours ago.
2321
01:45:42,417 --> 01:45:43,667
What's it look like, Nick?
2322
01:45:43,750 --> 01:45:46,917
I don't see any violence, Jim.
Heart attack, maybe an aneurysm.
2323
01:45:47,375 --> 01:45:49,000
Looks like natural causes.
2324
01:45:49,083 --> 01:45:51,167
This is addressed to no one,
and no signature.
2325
01:45:51,792 --> 01:45:54,750
"To leave this life is, for me,
a sweet prospect.
2326
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:57,125
I find nothing in it that is desirable,
2327
01:45:57,208 --> 01:46:00,208
and on the other hand,
everything that is loathsome."
2328
01:46:00,792 --> 01:46:02,167
- Goes on and on.
2329
01:46:02,708 --> 01:46:07,083
"Daily we are propagandized more and
more by the rising crime wave."
2330
01:46:07,708 --> 01:46:09,708
Pretty flowery for Dave Ferrie.
2331
01:46:31,167 --> 01:46:32,375
Proloid?
2332
01:46:34,708 --> 01:46:37,250
Yeah, I took it once for a low
thyroid condition.
2333
01:46:38,125 --> 01:46:40,000
It raises the metabolism,
Lou.
2334
01:46:41,750 --> 01:46:45,083
Did David Ferrie strike you as the kind
of person with a low metabolism?
2335
01:46:45,333 --> 01:46:48,208
Hardly, I'd say the opposite.
Hypertension.
2336
01:46:49,292 --> 01:46:52,542
You know, Ferrie was the only one to
express any kind of remorse
2337
01:46:52,625 --> 01:46:53,833
about the whole thing.
2338
01:46:55,625 --> 01:46:57,208
I think it got him killed.
2339
01:46:57,667 --> 01:46:59,500
Lou? Boss?
2340
01:46:59,583 --> 01:47:01,417
More bad news from Miami.
2341
01:47:01,500 --> 01:47:04,750
They found Ferrie's Cuban friend,
Eladio del Valle, today.
2342
01:47:05,042 --> 01:47:07,583
Hacked to death
with a machete in his car.
2343
01:47:07,667 --> 01:47:11,042
He was tortured, shot in the heart
at point-blank range,
2344
01:47:11,125 --> 01:47:12,958
and his skull was split open
with an axe.
2345
01:47:13,042 --> 01:47:14,667
Now, ain't that the devil's piss.
2346
01:47:14,750 --> 01:47:18,208
Found another note, same thing,
no name, no signature.
2347
01:47:18,292 --> 01:47:22,917
"When you receive this, I will be quite
dead, so no answer will be possible.
2348
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:25,125
- I offered you love, and all I got..."
- Jesus.
2349
01:47:25,208 --> 01:47:27,500
They must've been hard pressed
to come up with that one.
2350
01:47:27,583 --> 01:47:29,125
Nick,
can I have a word with you?
2351
01:47:30,083 --> 01:47:32,625
What would happen if a man suffering
from hypertension
2352
01:47:32,708 --> 01:47:35,083
were to take an entire bottle
of Proloid?
2353
01:47:35,167 --> 01:47:36,333
He'd die pretty quick,
2354
01:47:36,417 --> 01:47:39,292
either a heart storm or a ruptured
blood vessel in the brain.
2355
01:47:39,500 --> 01:47:40,500
Uh-huh.
2356
01:47:40,583 --> 01:47:43,250
Can you ascertain if there's Proloid
in his system?
2357
01:47:43,750 --> 01:47:45,500
Not in a routine autopsy.
2358
01:47:45,708 --> 01:47:49,125
But if we looked at the spinal fluid,
there might be a high level of iodine,
2359
01:47:49,208 --> 01:47:51,000
but it's difficult to know.
2360
01:47:51,083 --> 01:47:52,250
What you thinking, Jim?
2361
01:47:54,167 --> 01:47:55,708
I don't know,
it doesn't make sense, Nick.
2362
01:47:55,792 --> 01:47:57,542
I mean, the man's afraid of dying,
2363
01:47:57,625 --> 01:48:00,542
then he kills himself in a way
that leaves no trace?
2364
01:48:02,208 --> 01:48:04,625
But he leaves two unsigned
suicide notes?
2365
01:48:05,167 --> 01:48:08,000
If it's a suicide,
I seen weirder, Jim.
2366
01:48:08,750 --> 01:48:11,958
The fact is he's gone, chief,
and so is our case.
2367
01:48:12,042 --> 01:48:13,792
Unless we go for Shaw now.
2368
01:48:13,875 --> 01:48:17,250
With whose testimony?
Willie O'Keefe, a male prostitute?
2369
01:48:17,625 --> 01:48:20,583
Jack Martin, a drunk?
Vernon Bundy, a dope fiend?
2370
01:48:20,667 --> 01:48:22,458
Shaw's got respect, Lou.
2371
01:48:22,542 --> 01:48:24,917
Newspaper editors,
the American Bar Association--
2372
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:25,833
I agree with Bill.
2373
01:48:25,917 --> 01:48:27,667
- We haven't got the goods yet!
- We wait...
2374
01:48:27,750 --> 01:48:29,917
Shaw's gonna get whacked.
Now, how many corpses is it gonna take
2375
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:32,000
before you lawyers figure out
what's going on?
2376
01:48:32,083 --> 01:48:34,042
You watch your mouth!
Ferrie did this to himself.
2377
01:48:34,833 --> 01:48:36,292
Where you going, boss?
2378
01:48:36,417 --> 01:48:39,792
I don't know, Bill.
I just don't know.
2379
01:48:44,292 --> 01:48:46,167
- Hey, Bill!
- Hey, where you at, Frank?
2380
01:48:46,625 --> 01:48:50,500
You're wasting your time here. Big Jim
gave strict orders, no FBI allowed.
2381
01:48:50,583 --> 01:48:52,333
- It's you I want to talk to, Bill.
- No, no.
2382
01:48:52,417 --> 01:48:54,708
Boss would fry me in hog fat
if he knew I talked to you.
2383
01:48:54,792 --> 01:48:56,417
Your boss got a serious problem,
Bill.
2384
01:48:56,500 --> 01:48:57,542
Real serious.
2385
01:48:57,625 --> 01:48:59,500
We know what's been going on
over at your office.
2386
01:48:59,583 --> 01:49:01,000
Yeah, I guess you do.
2387
01:49:01,083 --> 01:49:03,417
You've got nothin', Bill.
I'm talking as a friend now.
2388
01:49:03,500 --> 01:49:05,083
You're riding on the Titanic.
2389
01:49:05,167 --> 01:49:08,083
Time to jump off before you get
destroyed along with Garrison.
2390
01:49:08,167 --> 01:49:09,583
Frank, I don't want to hear this.
2391
01:49:09,667 --> 01:49:11,917
We're talking about your career,
here, Bill, your life.
2392
01:49:12,000 --> 01:49:13,250
You're a young guy.
2393
01:49:13,750 --> 01:49:15,292
We know you're working
that Castro thing.
2394
01:49:15,375 --> 01:49:16,583
- No, I'm not.
- Yes, you are.
2395
01:49:16,917 --> 01:49:19,292
Look we know Oswald didn't pull
that trigger.
2396
01:49:19,375 --> 01:49:20,417
Castro did.
2397
01:49:21,333 --> 01:49:23,042
But if that comes out,
there's gonna be a war, boy.
2398
01:49:23,125 --> 01:49:24,792
Millions of people are gonna die.
2399
01:49:24,875 --> 01:49:27,292
And that's a hell of a lot more important
than Jim Garrison.
2400
01:49:27,375 --> 01:49:29,625
Goddammit, look at me
when I talk to you!
2401
01:49:29,708 --> 01:49:31,375
- You're goddamn too self-opinionated--
- I can't, I can't!
2402
01:49:31,458 --> 01:49:32,458
Shut up! Shut up!
2403
01:49:33,083 --> 01:49:35,542
If you got a brain in that thick skull
of yours, you'll listen to me.
2404
01:49:35,917 --> 01:49:37,542
You listen real hard.
2405
01:49:38,375 --> 01:49:39,583
Now, get in the car.
2406
01:50:01,417 --> 01:50:02,667
Jim Garrison?
2407
01:50:04,250 --> 01:50:05,208
Yes.
2408
01:50:06,250 --> 01:50:07,792
I'm glad you came.
2409
01:50:07,875 --> 01:50:09,917
Sorry about the precautions.
2410
01:50:10,000 --> 01:50:12,542
Well, I just hope it was
worth my while, Mr...
2411
01:50:13,708 --> 01:50:15,792
I could give you a false name,
but I won't.
2412
01:50:16,250 --> 01:50:17,542
Just call me "X."
2413
01:50:19,042 --> 01:50:22,208
I've already been warned by the Agency,
Mr. Whoever, so
2414
01:50:22,292 --> 01:50:24,375
if this is another type of threat,
I don't--
2415
01:50:24,458 --> 01:50:26,375
I'm not with the Agency,
Mr. Garrison.
2416
01:50:27,250 --> 01:50:30,833
And I assume if you've come this far,
what I have to say interests you.
2417
01:50:31,250 --> 01:50:34,458
But I'm not going to name names, or
tell you who or what I represent.
2418
01:50:35,125 --> 01:50:36,792
Except to say you're close.
2419
01:50:38,375 --> 01:50:39,875
Closer than you think.
2420
01:50:40,875 --> 01:50:41,917
Okay?
2421
01:50:43,708 --> 01:50:46,417
Everything I'm gonna tell you
is classified top secret.
2422
01:50:47,458 --> 01:50:49,250
I was a soldier, Mr. Garrison.
2423
01:50:49,500 --> 01:50:50,542
Two wars.
2424
01:50:51,208 --> 01:50:53,500
I was one of those secret guys in the
Pentagon
2425
01:50:53,583 --> 01:50:56,917
that supplies the military hardware,
planes, bullets, rifles,
2426
01:50:57,458 --> 01:50:59,667
for what we call
"Black Operations."
2427
01:51:00,250 --> 01:51:01,375
"Black Ops."
2428
01:51:01,458 --> 01:51:05,333
Assassinations, coup d'états, rigging
elections, propaganda, psych warfare,
2429
01:51:05,417 --> 01:51:06,333
and so forth.
2430
01:51:06,750 --> 01:51:10,292
World War Il, I was in Rumania,
Greece, Yugoslavia.
2431
01:51:10,917 --> 01:51:13,625
I helped evacuate part of the Nazi
intelligence apparatus
2432
01:51:13,708 --> 01:51:15,042
just before the end of the war.
2433
01:51:15,375 --> 01:51:18,125
We used those guys in the fight against
the communists.
2434
01:51:18,417 --> 01:51:23,250
In Italy '48, stole the elections.
France '49, broke the strikes.
2435
01:51:23,667 --> 01:51:28,000
Overthrew Quirino in the Philippines,
Arbenz in Guatemala, Mossadegh in Iran.
2436
01:51:28,292 --> 01:51:32,708
We were in Vietnam in '54,
Indonesia '58, Tibet '59.
2437
01:51:33,250 --> 01:51:34,833
Got the Dalai Lama out.
2438
01:51:35,917 --> 01:51:36,875
We were good.
2439
01:51:37,667 --> 01:51:38,875
Very good.
2440
01:51:39,833 --> 01:51:42,750
Then we get into the Cuban thing.
Not so good.
2441
01:51:42,833 --> 01:51:46,292
Set up all the bases for the invasion
supposed to take place in October '62.
2442
01:51:46,375 --> 01:51:47,250
Mm-hmm.
2443
01:51:47,333 --> 01:51:50,500
Khrushchev sent the missiles to resist
the invasion, Kennedy didn't invade...
2444
01:51:50,583 --> 01:51:53,042
and we were standing out there
with our dicks in the wind.
2445
01:51:53,167 --> 01:51:55,958
A lot of pissed-off people,
Mr. Garrison.
2446
01:51:56,417 --> 01:51:57,458
You understand?
2447
01:51:58,167 --> 01:51:59,667
I'll come to that later.
2448
01:52:00,292 --> 01:52:02,625
So... 1963.
2449
01:52:03,208 --> 01:52:06,167
I spent much of September '63
2450
01:52:06,375 --> 01:52:09,333
working on the Kennedy plan
for getting all US personnel
2451
01:52:09,417 --> 01:52:12,333
out of Vietnam
by the end of 1965.
2452
01:52:12,708 --> 01:52:15,792
This plan was one of the strongest,
most important papers issued
2453
01:52:15,875 --> 01:52:17,000
from the Kennedy White House.
2454
01:52:17,250 --> 01:52:19,792
His National Security Action Memo 263
2455
01:52:19,875 --> 01:52:22,333
ordered home the first 1,000 troops
for Christmas.
2456
01:52:22,958 --> 01:52:24,167
But then in November,
2457
01:52:24,250 --> 01:52:27,333
One week after the murder of
Vietnamese President Diem in Saigon,
2458
01:52:27,417 --> 01:52:29,833
and two weeks before the
assassination of our president,
2459
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:31,958
a strange thing happened to me.
2460
01:52:40,208 --> 01:52:40,958
Colonel.
2461
01:52:41,083 --> 01:52:43,583
Excuse me, I got a note saying you
wanted to see me, General?
2462
01:52:44,292 --> 01:52:45,208
I do indeed.
2463
01:52:45,792 --> 01:52:47,583
You are going to the South Pole.
2464
01:52:48,542 --> 01:52:49,375
lam?
2465
01:52:49,583 --> 01:52:50,333
You are.
2466
01:52:50,417 --> 01:52:53,125
Dr. Mooney's got the details,
I want you to check with him.
2467
01:52:53,375 --> 01:52:55,000
Have yourself a nice vacation.
2468
01:52:55,500 --> 01:52:58,375
I was sent by my superior officer,
we'll call him "Y,"”
2469
01:52:58,750 --> 01:53:01,708
I was sent by General Y
to the South Pole,
2470
01:53:02,458 --> 01:53:05,958
as the military escort for a group
of international VIPs.
2471
01:53:06,708 --> 01:53:09,708
I was on my way back,
in New Zealand,
2472
01:53:10,750 --> 01:53:12,333
when the president was killed.
2473
01:53:14,125 --> 01:53:15,042
Now...
2474
01:53:15,125 --> 01:53:19,042
Oswald was charged at 7 p.m.
Dallas time with Tippit's murder.
2475
01:53:19,125 --> 01:53:23,083
That's 2:00 in the afternoon of the
next day, New Zealand time.
2476
01:53:23,167 --> 01:53:24,250
But already...
2477
01:53:24,333 --> 01:53:26,250
their papers had the entire history
2478
01:53:26,333 --> 01:53:29,167
of this unknown
24-year-old man, Oswald,
2479
01:53:29,250 --> 01:53:32,542
studio picture, detailed biographical
data, Russian information,
2480
01:53:32,625 --> 01:53:35,583
and were pretty sure of the fact that
he killed the president alone,
2481
01:53:35,667 --> 01:53:37,375
although it took them
four more hours
2482
01:53:37,458 --> 01:53:39,958
before they even charged him with
that crime in Dallas.
2483
01:53:42,417 --> 01:53:43,833
It felt to me as if...
2484
01:53:45,333 --> 01:53:47,542
well, a cover story was
being put out,
2485
01:53:47,625 --> 01:53:49,167
like we would in a Black Op.
2486
01:53:50,333 --> 01:53:52,750
Anyway, after I came back,
2487
01:53:53,375 --> 01:53:54,708
I asked myself,
2488
01:53:54,792 --> 01:53:58,750
why was I, the chief of special ops,
selected to travel to the South Pole
2489
01:53:58,833 --> 01:54:02,083
at that time to do a job that any number
of others could have done?
2490
01:54:02,167 --> 01:54:04,333
And I wondered if
it could've been because...
2491
01:54:04,417 --> 01:54:07,042
One of my routine duties,
if I had been in Washington,
2492
01:54:07,125 --> 01:54:09,583
would've been to arrange
for additional security in Texas.
2493
01:54:09,667 --> 01:54:11,500
So I decided to check it out...
2494
01:54:11,583 --> 01:54:13,042
and sure enough,
I found out
2495
01:54:13,125 --> 01:54:16,417
that someone had told the 112th
Military Intelligence Group
2496
01:54:16,500 --> 01:54:20,125
at 4th Army Headquarters at Fort Sam
Houston to "stand down" that day
2497
01:54:20,333 --> 01:54:23,792
over the protests of the unit commander,
Colonel Reich.
2498
01:54:23,875 --> 01:54:24,917
I believe it's a mistake.
2499
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:28,250
Now this is significant because it is
standard operating procedure,
2500
01:54:28,333 --> 01:54:31,042
especially in a known hostile city
like Dallas,
2501
01:54:31,125 --> 01:54:32,792
to supplement the Secret Service.
2502
01:54:32,875 --> 01:54:35,042
I mean, even if we had not allowed
the bubbletop
2503
01:54:35,125 --> 01:54:36,625
to be removed from the limousine,
2504
01:54:36,708 --> 01:54:41,042
we would've placed at least 100 to 200
agents on the sidewalk, without question.
2505
01:54:41,417 --> 01:54:43,042
I mean, only a month before
in Dallas,
2506
01:54:43,125 --> 01:54:45,667
UN Ambassador Adlai Stevenson
was spit on and hit.
2507
01:54:45,750 --> 01:54:47,208
- Right, yeah.
- There had already been several attempts
2508
01:54:47,292 --> 01:54:48,542
on de Gaulle's life in France.
2509
01:54:48,750 --> 01:54:50,667
We would have arrived days
ahead of time,
2510
01:54:50,792 --> 01:54:52,792
studied the route,
checked all the buildings,
2511
01:54:52,875 --> 01:54:55,708
never would've allowed all those wide-open
empty windows overlooking Dealey.
2512
01:54:55,792 --> 01:54:56,542
Never!
2513
01:54:56,625 --> 01:54:58,625
We'd've had our own snipers
covering the area.
2514
01:54:58,708 --> 01:55:01,042
The minute a window went up,
they'd have been on the radio.
2515
01:55:01,125 --> 01:55:02,250
We'd've been watching the crowd,
2516
01:55:02,333 --> 01:55:04,625
packages, rolled-up newspapers,
coat over an arm,
2517
01:55:04,708 --> 01:55:07,167
never would have let a man
open an umbrella along the way.
2518
01:55:07,250 --> 01:55:10,042
Never would've allowed that limousine
to slow down to 10 miles an hour,
2519
01:55:10,125 --> 01:55:12,667
much less take that unusual curve
at Houston and EIm.
2520
01:55:13,458 --> 01:55:16,542
You would have felt an Army presence
in the streets that day,
2521
01:55:16,625 --> 01:55:18,250
but none of this happened.
2522
01:55:18,333 --> 01:55:22,000
It was a violation of the most basic
protection codes we have.
2523
01:55:22,083 --> 01:55:25,458
And it is the best indication of
a massive plot in Dallas.
2524
01:55:27,125 --> 01:55:28,958
Now who could've best done this?
2525
01:55:29,292 --> 01:55:31,583
Black Ops, Mr. Garrison.
People in my business.
2526
01:55:31,667 --> 01:55:34,875
People like my superior officer could've
called Colonel Reich and said
2527
01:55:34,958 --> 01:55:38,292
"Look, we have another unit coming from
so and so providing security.
2528
01:55:38,375 --> 01:55:40,417
You'll stand down."
I mean, that day, in fact,
2529
01:55:40,500 --> 01:55:43,000
there were some individual
Army Intelligence people in Dallas
2530
01:55:43,083 --> 01:55:44,958
I'm still trying to figure out
who and why.
2531
01:55:45,208 --> 01:55:46,958
But they weren't protecting
the client.
2532
01:55:47,042 --> 01:55:48,375
And, of course, Oswald.
2533
01:55:48,625 --> 01:55:51,708
Army Intel had a
"Harvey Lee Oswald" on file,
2534
01:55:52,042 --> 01:55:54,250
but all those files
have been destroyed.
2535
01:55:54,625 --> 01:55:55,875
Many strange things
were happening,
2536
01:55:55,958 --> 01:55:58,917
and your Lee Harvey Oswald
had nothing to do with them.
2537
01:56:01,042 --> 01:56:03,458
We had the entire cabinet
on a trip to the Far East.
2538
01:56:03,542 --> 01:56:06,667
We had one third of a combat division
returning from Germany
2539
01:56:06,750 --> 01:56:10,000
in the air above the United States
at the time of the shooting.
2540
01:56:10,583 --> 01:56:14,458
At 12:34 p.m., the entire telephone
system went out in Washington
2541
01:56:14,542 --> 01:56:16,125
for a solid hour,
2542
01:56:16,208 --> 01:56:18,250
and on the plane back
to Washington,
2543
01:56:18,333 --> 01:56:21,542
word was radioed from the White House
Situations Room to Lyndon Johnson
2544
01:56:21,625 --> 01:56:23,625
that one individual performed
the assassination.
2545
01:56:23,708 --> 01:56:26,125
Does that sound like a bunch
of coincidences to you, Mr. Garrison?
2546
01:56:26,208 --> 01:56:27,000
No.
2547
01:56:27,083 --> 01:56:28,083
Not for one moment.
2548
01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:31,833
The cabinet was out of the country
to get their perceptions out of the way.
2549
01:56:32,583 --> 01:56:34,583
Troops were in the air for
possible riot control.
2550
01:56:34,667 --> 01:56:36,958
The telephones didn't work to keep
the wrong stories from spreading
2551
01:56:37,042 --> 01:56:38,792
if anything went wrong
with the plan.
2552
01:56:38,875 --> 01:56:40,375
Nothing was left to chance.
2553
01:56:40,708 --> 01:56:43,667
He could not be allowed
to escape alive.
2554
01:56:46,625 --> 01:56:49,042
Well, I never thought things were
the same after that.
2555
01:56:50,542 --> 01:56:51,792
Vietnam started for real.
2556
01:56:51,875 --> 01:56:53,458
There was an air of...
2557
01:56:53,542 --> 01:56:54,375
I don't know,
2558
01:56:54,458 --> 01:56:56,875
make-believe in
the Pentagon and the CIA.
2559
01:56:56,958 --> 01:56:59,042
Those of us who'd been in secret ops
since the beginning
2560
01:56:59,125 --> 01:57:00,875
knew the Warren Commission
was fiction,
2561
01:57:01,792 --> 01:57:03,458
but there was something...
2562
01:57:03,833 --> 01:57:05,083
something deeper.
2563
01:57:05,458 --> 01:57:06,500
Uglier.
2564
01:57:06,583 --> 01:57:09,667
I knew Allen Dulles very well,
I briefed him many a time in his house.
2565
01:57:10,042 --> 01:57:12,750
But for the life of me, I still
can't figure out why he was appointed
2566
01:57:12,833 --> 01:57:14,125
to investigate Kennedy's death.
2567
01:57:14,208 --> 01:57:15,542
The man who had fired him.
2568
01:57:15,875 --> 01:57:19,125
Dulles, by the way,
was General Y's benefactor.
2569
01:57:21,333 --> 01:57:23,000
I get out in '64.
2570
01:57:23,625 --> 01:57:25,292
Resigned my commission.
2571
01:57:27,083 --> 01:57:30,375
I never realized Kennedy was so
dangerous to the establishment.
2572
01:57:31,792 --> 01:57:32,958
Is that why?
2573
01:57:33,833 --> 01:57:35,583
That's the real question,
isn't it?
2574
01:57:35,667 --> 01:57:36,458
"Why?"
2575
01:57:36,875 --> 01:57:40,500
The "how" and the "who" is just
scenery for the public.
2576
01:57:41,083 --> 01:57:44,333
Oswald, Ruby, Cuba, the mafia...
2577
01:57:44,667 --> 01:57:46,500
keeps them guessing like some kind
of parlor game,
2578
01:57:46,583 --> 01:57:49,083
prevents them from asking the most
important question: "Why?"
2579
01:57:49,917 --> 01:57:51,667
Why was Kennedy killed?
2580
01:57:51,750 --> 01:57:53,042
Who benefitted?
2581
01:57:53,333 --> 01:57:55,042
Who has the power to cover it up?
2582
01:57:55,542 --> 01:57:56,583
Who?
2583
01:57:59,833 --> 01:58:01,667
In 1961...
2584
01:58:02,833 --> 01:58:04,000
right after the Bay of Pigs--
2585
01:58:04,083 --> 01:58:06,167
Very few people
know about this, all right?
2586
01:58:06,917 --> 01:58:11,750
I participated in drawing up National
Security Action Memos 55, 56, 57.
2587
01:58:11,833 --> 01:58:13,333
- General?
- These are crucial documents,
2588
01:58:13,417 --> 01:58:16,500
classified top secret, but
basically in them...
2589
01:58:16,583 --> 01:58:19,208
Kennedy instructed General Lemnitzer,
chairman of the Joint Chiefs,
2590
01:58:19,292 --> 01:58:20,708
- that from here on forward,
2591
01:58:20,792 --> 01:58:23,542
the Joint Chiefs of Staff would be
wholly responsible
2592
01:58:23,625 --> 01:58:26,417
for all covert paramilitary action
in peacetime.
2593
01:58:26,833 --> 01:58:29,375
This basically ended the reign
of the CIA.
2594
01:58:29,583 --> 01:58:32,000
Splintered it,
as JFK promised he would,
2595
01:58:32,083 --> 01:58:33,333
into a thousand pieces,
2596
01:58:33,417 --> 01:58:36,583
and now he was ordering the military
to help him do it.
2597
01:58:36,667 --> 01:58:37,833
This was unprecedented!
2598
01:58:38,083 --> 01:58:39,500
I can't tell you
2599
01:58:39,583 --> 01:58:42,833
the shock waves that this sent along the
corridors of power in Washington.
2600
01:58:42,917 --> 01:58:45,667
This and, of course, the firing of
Allen Dulles, Richard Bissell,
2601
01:58:45,750 --> 01:58:47,125
and General Charles Cabell,
2602
01:58:47,583 --> 01:58:50,792
all of them sacred cows in Intel
since World War II.
2603
01:58:51,417 --> 01:58:53,417
You got some very upset
people here.
2604
01:58:54,625 --> 01:58:57,583
Kennedy's directives were never really
implemented because of...
2605
01:58:57,667 --> 01:58:59,875
bureaucratic resistance,
2606
01:59:00,667 --> 01:59:02,458
but one of the results was...
2607
01:59:02,958 --> 01:59:06,500
the Cuban operation was turned over
to my department
2608
01:59:07,125 --> 01:59:08,917
as "Operation Mongoose."
2609
01:59:09,792 --> 01:59:12,125
Mongoose was pure Black Ops.
2610
01:59:12,375 --> 01:59:15,625
It was secretly based in the south
campus of Miami University,
2611
01:59:15,833 --> 01:59:18,667
which was the largest domestic
CIA station,
2612
01:59:19,083 --> 01:59:21,750
budgeted annually over hundreds
of millions of dollars.
2613
01:59:22,125 --> 01:59:25,167
Three hundred agents,
7,000 select Cubans,
2614
01:59:25,708 --> 01:59:28,042
50 fake business fronts for
laundering money.
2615
01:59:28,500 --> 01:59:30,958
They waged non-stop war
against Castro.
2616
01:59:31,125 --> 01:59:33,875
Industrial sabotage, crop burning,
the works.
2617
01:59:34,167 --> 01:59:36,792
And all of this came under
the control of General Y.
2618
01:59:37,208 --> 01:59:40,042
All he did was take the rules of covert
warfare he'd used abroad,
2619
01:59:40,125 --> 01:59:41,375
and brought them into
this country.
2620
01:59:41,958 --> 01:59:44,208
Now he had the people,
the equipment, the bases,
2621
01:59:44,917 --> 01:59:46,208
and the motivation.
2622
01:59:46,542 --> 01:59:49,333
And don't underestimate the budget
cuts that Kennedy called for
2623
01:59:49,417 --> 01:59:50,875
in March of '63 either.
2624
01:59:51,417 --> 01:59:56,583
Nearly 52 military installations in
25 states, 21 overseas bases.
2625
01:59:56,667 --> 01:59:57,917
You're talking big money.
2626
01:59:58,250 --> 02:00:00,875
You know how many helicopters have
been lost in Vietham?
2627
02:00:00,958 --> 02:00:01,875
Hmm?
2628
02:00:02,542 --> 02:00:04,875
- Nearly 3,000 so far.
2629
02:00:05,208 --> 02:00:08,167
Who makes them?
Bell Helicopter. Who owns Bell?
2630
02:00:08,625 --> 02:00:11,500
Well, Bell was nearly bankrupt when
the First National Bank of Boston
2631
02:00:11,583 --> 02:00:15,208
approached the CIA about developing
the helicopter for Indochina usage.
2632
02:00:15,292 --> 02:00:16,917
How about the F-111 fighters?
2633
02:00:17,250 --> 02:00:19,875
General Dynamics of Fort Worth,
Texas. Who owns that?
2634
02:00:20,208 --> 02:00:22,500
Find out the defense budget
since the war began.
2635
02:00:22,833 --> 02:00:25,208
Seventy-five going on 100 billion.
2636
02:00:25,500 --> 02:00:27,708
Nearly 200 billion will be spent
before it's over.
2637
02:00:28,833 --> 02:00:30,833
In 1949, it was 10 billion.
2638
02:00:30,958 --> 02:00:33,125
No war, no money.
2639
02:00:33,917 --> 02:00:38,958
The organizing principle of any society,
Mr. Garrison, is for war.
2640
02:00:39,542 --> 02:00:43,542
The authority of the state over its people
resides in its war powers.
2641
02:00:43,833 --> 02:00:46,667
And Kennedy wanted to end the Cold War
in his second term.
2642
02:00:46,917 --> 02:00:50,625
He wanted to call off the moon race
in favor of cooperation with the Soviets.
2643
02:00:50,708 --> 02:00:53,083
He signed a treaty with the Soviets
to ban nuclear testing,
2644
02:00:53,167 --> 02:00:56,000
he refused to invade Cuba
in 1962,
2645
02:00:56,083 --> 02:00:58,125
and he set out to withdraw
from Vietnam.
2646
02:00:59,875 --> 02:01:03,792
But all of that ended on
the 22nd of November, 1963.
2647
02:01:04,625 --> 02:01:09,042
As early as 1961 they knew Kennedy was
not going to go to war in Southeast Asia.
2648
02:01:09,417 --> 02:01:13,125
Like Caesar, he is surrounded by enemies
and something's underway,
2649
02:01:13,208 --> 02:01:16,708
but it has no face,
yet everybody in the loop knows.
2650
02:01:16,792 --> 02:01:18,333
You can forget about your
combat troops.
2651
02:01:18,542 --> 02:01:22,292
He told McNamara he is gonna pull out
the goddamned advisors!
2652
02:01:23,208 --> 02:01:28,042
He fucked us in Laos, and now,
he is gonna fuck us in goddamn Vietnam!
2653
02:01:28,167 --> 02:01:31,208
He won't implement it before
the election, he can't afford to.
2654
02:01:31,458 --> 02:01:33,833
I hear the NSC meeting
was a real barn-burner.
2655
02:01:33,917 --> 02:01:37,417
I wouldn't have missed it for the world.
Heads are gonna roll everywhere.
2656
02:01:37,500 --> 02:01:39,000
Did you hear what Lemnitzer did?
2657
02:01:39,083 --> 02:01:39,917
What happened?
2658
02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:43,500
Kennedy tried to rub Lem's nose in shit,
saying if we didn't go into Cuba,
2659
02:01:43,583 --> 02:01:48,083
which is so close, why should we go into
Vietnam, which is so far away.
2660
02:01:48,167 --> 02:01:51,125
Son of a bitch, there he goes again.
He's got his hands on the chicken switch.
2661
02:01:51,208 --> 02:01:55,167
Anyway, Lem said that the Chiefs still
think we oughta go into Cuba.
2662
02:01:55,250 --> 02:01:57,667
- Money's at stake. Big money.
2663
02:01:57,958 --> 02:01:59,750
Hundred billion dollars.
2664
02:02:00,292 --> 02:02:03,417
Kennedy brothers target voting districts
for those defense dollars.
2665
02:02:03,542 --> 02:02:05,125
They give TFX fighter contracts
2666
02:02:05,208 --> 02:02:07,917
only to those counties that are gonna
make a difference in '64.
2667
02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:10,833
And the people in the loop,
they fight back. Their way.
2668
02:02:10,917 --> 02:02:13,750
We have to control the intelligence
from Saigon.
2669
02:02:13,833 --> 02:02:17,583
Well, just don't let McNamara start
sticking his damn nose in this thing!
2670
02:02:17,958 --> 02:02:21,917
Every time he goes over to Saigon on
some fuckin' fact-finding mission,
2671
02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:25,125
he comes back and just scares
the shit out of the president!
2672
02:02:25,375 --> 02:02:29,375
Now I want Max Taylor on him night
and day, like a fly on shit.
2673
02:02:30,208 --> 02:02:34,375
Now you control McNamara,
then you control Kennedy.
2674
02:02:34,500 --> 02:02:36,083
I think it started like that,
2675
02:02:36,333 --> 02:02:37,708
in the wind.
2676
02:02:37,792 --> 02:02:41,208
Defense contractors, big oil bankers.
Just conversations, nothing more.
2677
02:02:41,292 --> 02:02:45,625
Then, a call is made, maybe to someone
like my superior officer, General Y.
2678
02:02:45,917 --> 02:02:48,250
- Yeah?
- We're going.
2679
02:02:48,333 --> 02:02:49,792
We need your help.
2680
02:02:49,875 --> 02:02:54,333
- When?
- In the fall, probably in the South.
2681
02:02:54,458 --> 02:02:57,458
- We want you to come up with a plan.
- I can do that.
2682
02:02:57,542 --> 02:03:00,958
Everything is cellularized.
No one has said, "He must die.”
2683
02:03:01,250 --> 02:03:04,958
There's been no vote, nothing's on paper,
there's no one to blame.
2684
02:03:05,083 --> 02:03:07,583
It's as old as the crucifixion.
2685
02:03:07,750 --> 02:03:09,875
- Or the military firing squad.
2686
02:03:10,250 --> 02:03:13,625
Five bullets, one blank.
No one's guilty.
2687
02:03:13,875 --> 02:03:16,000
Because everyone in the power structure
who knows anything
2688
02:03:16,083 --> 02:03:17,750
has a plausible deniability.
2689
02:03:17,875 --> 02:03:21,833
There are no compromising connections,
except at the most secret point.
2690
02:03:22,625 --> 02:03:26,042
But what's paramount, is that it must
succeed, no matter how many die,
2691
02:03:26,125 --> 02:03:30,167
no matter how much it costs, the
perpetrators must be on the winning side.
2692
02:03:30,250 --> 02:03:34,583
And never subject to prosecution
for anything by anyone.
2693
02:03:34,833 --> 02:03:36,917
That is a coup d'état.
2694
02:03:40,917 --> 02:03:43,583
Kennedy announces
the Texas trip in September.
2695
02:03:44,042 --> 02:03:47,708
At that moment, second Oswalds
start popping up all over Dallas,
2696
02:03:47,792 --> 02:03:49,875
where they have the mayor
and the cops in their pocket.
2697
02:03:50,458 --> 02:03:52,708
General Y flies in the assassins.
2698
02:03:52,792 --> 02:03:56,333
Maybe from the special camp we keep
outside Athens, Greece.
2699
02:03:56,667 --> 02:03:57,625
Pros.
2700
02:03:57,708 --> 02:04:01,208
Maybe locals, Cubans, mafia hire.
Separate teams.
2701
02:04:01,708 --> 02:04:05,458
Does it really matter who shot
from what rooftop?
2702
02:04:07,167 --> 02:04:09,125
Part of the scenery, right?
2703
02:04:09,208 --> 02:04:13,625
I keep thinking about that day,
Tuesday, the 26th of November.
2704
02:04:13,708 --> 02:04:15,583
The day after they buried Kennedy.
2705
02:04:15,667 --> 02:04:20,000
Gentlemen, I want you to know, I'm
not gonna let Vietham go like China did.
2706
02:04:20,083 --> 02:04:21,917
I'm personally committed.
2707
02:04:22,000 --> 02:04:24,042
And I'm not gonna take one soldier
outta there
2708
02:04:24,125 --> 02:04:26,583
till they know we mean business
in Asia.
2709
02:04:26,750 --> 02:04:30,250
Lyndon Johnson signs
National Security Memo 273,
2710
02:04:30,333 --> 02:04:32,875
which essentially reverses Kennedy's
new withdrawal policy
2711
02:04:32,958 --> 02:04:35,833
and gives the green light to covert
action against North Vietnam,
2712
02:04:35,917 --> 02:04:37,875
which provoked
the Gulf of Tonkin incident.
2713
02:04:37,958 --> 02:04:41,375
Just get me elected,
I'll give you your damn war.
2714
02:04:43,083 --> 02:04:44,333
In that document...
2715
02:04:45,875 --> 02:04:47,125
lay the Vietham War.
2716
02:04:51,250 --> 02:04:52,667
I don't-- I can't...
2717
02:04:53,042 --> 02:04:56,333
I can't believe it. They killed him
because he wanted to change things?
2718
02:04:57,958 --> 02:04:59,208
In our time?
2719
02:04:59,292 --> 02:05:01,208
- They been doing it all through history.
- In our country?
2720
02:05:01,333 --> 02:05:05,125
Kings are killed, Mr. Garrison.
Politics is power, nothing more.
2721
02:05:05,875 --> 02:05:07,708
Oh, don't take my word for it.
Don't believe me.
2722
02:05:07,792 --> 02:05:09,750
Do your own work,
your own thinking.
2723
02:05:11,875 --> 02:05:13,708
The size of this is...
2724
02:05:14,125 --> 02:05:15,542
beyond me.
2725
02:05:16,250 --> 02:05:17,458
Testify?
2726
02:05:17,708 --> 02:05:19,042
- Me?
- Testify.
2727
02:05:20,833 --> 02:05:22,250
No chance in hell.
2728
02:05:22,875 --> 02:05:25,583
No, I'd be arrested and gagged.
2729
02:05:25,667 --> 02:05:28,583
Maybe sent to an institution,
maybe worse. You, too.
2730
02:05:29,583 --> 02:05:31,333
I can give you the background.
2731
02:05:31,417 --> 02:05:33,458
You have to find the foreground,
the little things.
2732
02:05:33,833 --> 02:05:34,583
Keep digging.
2733
02:05:34,667 --> 02:05:37,750
Remember, you're the only person to bring
a trial in the murder of John Kennedy.
2734
02:05:37,833 --> 02:05:39,792
That's important,
it's historic.
2735
02:05:40,708 --> 02:05:41,875
I haven't yet.
2736
02:05:42,958 --> 02:05:45,458
I don't have much of a case.
2737
02:05:46,500 --> 02:05:48,375
You don't have a choice anymore.
2738
02:05:48,708 --> 02:05:52,417
You've become a significant threat to
the national security structure.
2739
02:05:52,750 --> 02:05:55,500
They would've killed you already, but
you got a lot of light on you.
2740
02:05:55,833 --> 02:05:57,917
Instead, they're trying to destroy
your credibility.
2741
02:05:58,000 --> 02:06:00,167
They already have in many circles
in this town.
2742
02:06:00,542 --> 02:06:01,500
Be honest.
2743
02:06:02,125 --> 02:06:04,542
Your only chance is to come up
with a case.
2744
02:06:04,750 --> 02:06:06,625
Something, anything.
2745
02:06:07,083 --> 02:06:10,125
Make arrests,
stir the shitstorm.
2746
02:06:10,333 --> 02:06:13,500
Hope to reach a point of critical mass
that'll start a chain reaction
2747
02:06:13,583 --> 02:06:14,833
of people coming forward.
2748
02:06:15,000 --> 02:06:16,500
Then, the government will crack.
2749
02:06:17,083 --> 02:06:20,042
Remember, fundamentally
people are suckers for the truth,
2750
02:06:20,542 --> 02:06:22,708
and the truth is on your side,
bubba.
2751
02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:31,458
I just hope you get a break.
2752
02:07:17,458 --> 02:07:20,292
Mr. Shaw,
sir, you are under arrest,
2753
02:07:20,375 --> 02:07:23,292
charged with conspiracy and entering
an agreement with other persons
2754
02:07:23,375 --> 02:07:26,083
for the specific purpose of
committing the crime of murder
2755
02:07:26,167 --> 02:07:27,833
of President John F. Kennedy.
2756
02:07:27,917 --> 02:07:29,833
We have a warrant
to search the premises.
2757
02:07:31,083 --> 02:07:32,792
It is my duty to inform you at
this time...
2758
02:07:33,792 --> 02:07:36,000
you have the right to remain silent,
you have the right to an attorney.
2759
02:07:36,083 --> 02:07:37,833
Name. First, middle, and last.
2760
02:07:37,917 --> 02:07:39,458
Clay Lavergne Shaw.
2761
02:07:41,917 --> 02:07:42,917
Address?
2762
02:07:43,000 --> 02:07:46,042
1313 Dauphine Street, New Orleans.
2763
02:07:46,167 --> 02:07:47,500
Mr. Shaw!
2764
02:07:47,583 --> 02:07:49,208
Ever use any aliases?
2765
02:07:49,542 --> 02:07:50,875
Clay Bertrand.
2766
02:07:57,542 --> 02:07:59,667
Mr. Clark,
are you aware of the charges
2767
02:07:59,750 --> 02:08:02,042
- filed by District Attorney Garrison?
2768
02:08:02,167 --> 02:08:04,333
Yes, Mr. Shaw was included in our
investigation.
2769
02:08:05,125 --> 02:08:06,583
There was no connection found.
2770
02:08:06,667 --> 02:08:08,208
- At all.
- Why did the FBI investigate him?
2771
02:08:08,417 --> 02:08:12,000
And why, if they did,
is his name not mentioned once
2772
02:08:12,083 --> 02:08:14,750
in the entire 26 volumes
of the Warren Report,
2773
02:08:14,833 --> 02:08:16,708
- even it if is to clear his name?
2774
02:08:17,958 --> 02:08:20,000
I doubt this attorney general
would qualify
2775
02:08:20,083 --> 02:08:20,917
- for my staff.
2776
02:08:21,000 --> 02:08:25,875
Mr. Garrison has presented
absolutely nothing publicly...
2777
02:08:25,958 --> 02:08:28,250
which would contradict
our findings.
2778
02:08:29,375 --> 02:08:34,958
I know of no fact which would refute
the Commission's conclusion
2779
02:08:35,042 --> 02:08:38,292
that Lee Oswald was the lone killer.
2780
02:08:38,375 --> 02:08:40,292
What's your reaction
to the chief justice's statement?
2781
02:08:40,542 --> 02:08:42,458
Well, I congratulate Mr. Shaw.
2782
02:08:42,708 --> 02:08:45,667
Most defendants have to wait for trial
before they're allowed to produce
2783
02:08:45,750 --> 02:08:49,833
sacred cows like the chief justice of
the land as a character witness,
2784
02:08:49,917 --> 02:08:53,625
who is, of course, not under oath and
free from the laws of perjury.
2785
02:08:56,125 --> 02:08:58,958
You realize that you're
damaging the credibility of the country,
2786
02:08:59,042 --> 02:09:00,792
- possibly destroying it?
- Let me ask you...
2787
02:09:00,875 --> 02:09:04,500
Let me ask you, is a government worth
preserving when it lies to the people?
2788
02:09:04,583 --> 02:09:06,208
- Huh?
2789
02:09:06,292 --> 02:09:09,667
It has become a dangerous country, sir,
when you cannot trust anyone anymore,
2790
02:09:09,750 --> 02:09:11,208
when you cannot tell the truth.
2791
02:09:13,042 --> 02:09:15,833
I say, let justice be done, though
the heavens fall!
2792
02:09:22,458 --> 02:09:26,083
The JFK conspiracy,
the case of Jim Garrison.
2793
02:09:26,458 --> 02:09:29,917
- Honey, this is all about you!
2794
02:09:30,000 --> 02:09:34,125
A team of reporters has learned that
District Attorney Jim Garrison
2795
02:09:34,208 --> 02:09:39,083
and his staff have intimidated,
bribed, and even drugged witnesses
2796
02:09:39,167 --> 02:09:41,250
in their attempt to prove a conspiracy
2797
02:09:41,333 --> 02:09:46,542
involving New Orleans businessman Clay
Shaw in the murder of John F. Kennedy.
2798
02:09:47,375 --> 02:09:48,875
John Chancler...
2799
02:09:48,958 --> 02:09:50,792
was a cellmate of Willie O'Keefe's
2800
02:09:50,875 --> 02:09:51,750
at Angola...
2801
02:09:51,833 --> 02:09:55,458
He said he'd be cut loose,
if he copped to the DA's office.
2802
02:09:55,542 --> 02:09:57,208
I sent him up for burglary.
2803
02:09:58,292 --> 02:10:00,708
- And there's his old buddy Miguel Torres.
2804
02:10:01,708 --> 02:10:03,333
We sent him up, too.
2805
02:10:03,417 --> 02:10:05,708
They wanted me to say Shaw
was Bertrand.
2806
02:10:05,958 --> 02:10:07,708
They said they'd get me a pardon.
2807
02:10:07,792 --> 02:10:09,333
Janet Williams
2808
02:10:09,417 --> 02:10:12,042
comments on Willie O'Keefe's descriptions
2809
02:10:12,125 --> 02:10:13,500
of having met Oswald.
2810
02:10:13,917 --> 02:10:15,167
Was he a homosexual?
2811
02:10:15,250 --> 02:10:18,167
That's not the Lee I knew.
Absolutely not.
2812
02:10:18,250 --> 02:10:21,750
I think Mr. O'Keefe must have seen
someone he thought was Lee Oswald.
2813
02:10:21,833 --> 02:10:23,000
I didn't talk to nobody
2814
02:10:23,083 --> 02:10:24,125
after the assassination.
2815
02:10:24,208 --> 02:10:26,083
I was on drugs at the hospital.
2816
02:10:26,208 --> 02:10:30,000
Like I told the FBI, that call
was a figment of my imagination.
2817
02:10:30,083 --> 02:10:32,208
Personally,
I think he's quite ill, mentally.
2818
02:10:32,583 --> 02:10:36,625
With one half of his mind, he is able to
go out and fabricate evidence,
2819
02:10:36,875 --> 02:10:39,958
then by some osmosis, he is able to
convince the other half
2820
02:10:40,042 --> 02:10:41,667
that the fabrication is the truth.
2821
02:10:41,750 --> 02:10:43,125
Well, I wouldn't worry about it, Liz.
2822
02:10:43,208 --> 02:10:46,417
There's only about 20, 30 million people
watching this tonight.
2823
02:10:48,708 --> 02:10:52,417
Guess my reputation's all right with
the people watching Laugh-in.
2824
02:10:52,750 --> 02:10:56,333
...because in some way,
Mr. Garrison is indebted
2825
02:10:56,417 --> 02:10:58,167
and tied to the mob?
2826
02:10:58,250 --> 02:11:00,500
The more one looks at Jim Garrison,
2827
02:11:00,583 --> 02:11:03,917
the more one finds he has destroyed
reputations,
2828
02:11:04,000 --> 02:11:06,083
- spread fear and suspicion,
2829
02:11:06,167 --> 02:11:10,333
and, worst of all, exploited this nation's
sorrow and doubt.
2830
02:11:10,417 --> 02:11:13,375
- Jim Garrison has said, quote:
- You wanna be in bed with us?
2831
02:11:13,458 --> 02:11:15,125
- Sleep with me tonight?
- "Let justice be done,
2832
02:11:15,208 --> 02:11:16,833
though the heavens fall."
2833
02:11:16,917 --> 02:11:19,542
He seeks the truth, so do we.
2834
02:11:31,583 --> 02:11:34,208
What Dr. Martin Luther King
called his beautiful dream,
2835
02:11:34,292 --> 02:11:37,833
expressed so dramatically during
the 1963 March on Washington,
2836
02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:41,375
was shattered tonight in Memphis,
Tennessee by an assassin's bullet.
2837
02:11:41,458 --> 02:11:44,500
Police seem to think that the single shot
came from across the street.
2838
02:11:44,917 --> 02:11:47,000
They say that they have found a
Browning automatic rifle,
2839
02:11:47,083 --> 02:11:48,542
- fitted with a marksman's scope,
2840
02:11:48,625 --> 02:11:49,542
on a sidewalk.
2841
02:11:50,583 --> 02:11:53,208
- I'll get it!
2842
02:11:53,292 --> 02:11:54,417
Hello?
2843
02:11:54,500 --> 02:11:57,250
Hello, is this Jim Garrison's daughter?
2844
02:11:57,333 --> 02:11:58,333
Yes.
2845
02:11:58,417 --> 02:12:00,042
Virginia or Elizabeth?
2846
02:12:00,333 --> 02:12:01,375
Virginia.
2847
02:12:01,458 --> 02:12:04,000
Virginia,
you're a lucky little girl.
2848
02:12:04,083 --> 02:12:06,375
Your daddy has entered you
in a beauty contest.
2849
02:12:06,458 --> 02:12:08,917
- Would you like to be in a beauty contest?
2850
02:12:09,417 --> 02:12:10,625
- I don't know.
- My God!
2851
02:12:10,708 --> 02:12:13,667
- My God, what have they done?
2852
02:12:13,750 --> 02:12:16,083
- Yes. Uh-huh.
- It's lynchin' time.
2853
02:12:16,583 --> 02:12:18,333
It's lynchin' time.
2854
02:12:18,792 --> 02:12:20,333
That sounds fun.
2855
02:12:21,000 --> 02:12:22,375
And you get off from school
2856
02:12:22,458 --> 02:12:24,167
- Honey, who are you talking to?
- ...at 3:00 everyday?
2857
02:12:24,417 --> 02:12:26,750
Okay, Virginia,
that's all I need to know.
2858
02:12:26,833 --> 02:12:29,625
- Mommy, I'm gonna be in a beauty contest!
2859
02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:31,917
Who is this? Who is this?!
2860
02:12:32,917 --> 02:12:34,375
Hello?
2861
02:12:34,458 --> 02:12:37,500
Jim, did you enter Virginia
in a beauty contest?
2862
02:12:37,583 --> 02:12:40,375
A man just called, he wanted to know
everything, her height, her weight--
2863
02:12:40,458 --> 02:12:41,667
It's some crackpot.
2864
02:12:41,750 --> 02:12:43,917
Martin Luther King was killed
in Memphis, today.
2865
02:12:44,000 --> 02:12:45,667
Honey, your daughter's life's just
been threatened!
2866
02:12:45,750 --> 02:12:49,042
Just a crank making calls,
happens a dozen times a day at the office.
2867
02:12:49,125 --> 02:12:51,708
Our home, Jim! A kidnapper,
a murderer, who knows!
2868
02:12:51,792 --> 02:12:53,417
Jesus Christ, Liz,
only cowards make crank calls!
2869
02:12:53,500 --> 02:12:55,333
- How do you know?
- All right? Nothing's gonna happen.
2870
02:12:55,417 --> 02:12:57,750
How do you even know what goes on
in this house anymore!
2871
02:12:57,833 --> 02:12:59,958
You're too busy making speeches!
2872
02:13:00,042 --> 02:13:00,792
Liz--
2873
02:13:00,875 --> 02:13:03,125
Getting every crazed Klansman
in Louisiana after us!
2874
02:13:03,208 --> 02:13:04,917
- Get a hold of yourself.
- I'm leaving! I'm taking the kids,
2875
02:13:05,000 --> 02:13:06,208
- Come on, come on!
- and I'm leaving!
2876
02:13:06,375 --> 02:13:08,458
I can't stand it anymore!
2877
02:13:08,542 --> 02:13:10,458
- The government wants you to be scared.
- You and your government.
2878
02:13:10,542 --> 02:13:13,167
The government wants everybody
to be scared to speak out.
2879
02:13:13,250 --> 02:13:14,708
- What's the matter with you?
- They count on it.
2880
02:13:14,792 --> 02:13:16,750
- Don't you have any feelings?
- There's nothing to be scared of.
2881
02:13:19,500 --> 02:13:20,958
Your own daughter!
2882
02:13:21,708 --> 02:13:23,458
What kind of man are you?
2883
02:13:27,333 --> 02:13:30,292
I'll take them up to my mother's if it
makes you feel any better, all right?
2884
02:13:30,375 --> 02:13:31,125
You spend a week.
2885
02:13:31,208 --> 02:13:33,167
- What's a week gonna do?
- I'll change the locks, the phone lines,
2886
02:13:33,250 --> 02:13:36,292
I'll even get a bodyguard.
Just get a hold of yourself.
2887
02:13:36,458 --> 02:13:37,875
Honey,
before this Kennedy thing,
2888
02:13:37,958 --> 02:13:40,208
nothing mattered in this world more
than your children.
2889
02:13:40,625 --> 02:13:43,625
The other night Jasper tried to talk to
you, you didn't even notice he was there.
2890
02:13:43,708 --> 02:13:45,708
He came to me bawling
his little eyes out.
2891
02:13:45,792 --> 02:13:47,042
- I promise, all right?
- He's sensitive, honey.
2892
02:13:47,125 --> 02:13:49,208
- I promise I'll make more time for Jasper.
- He needs more from you.
2893
02:13:49,292 --> 02:13:51,000
Is it such a chore?
2894
02:13:51,083 --> 02:13:53,375
- Goddammit, if I said I'll spend more time
- I don't understand you!
2895
02:13:53,458 --> 02:13:55,250
with him, I'll spend more time
with him, all right?
2896
02:13:55,333 --> 02:13:57,958
I cannot fight you and the whole
world too, Liz!
2897
02:13:58,042 --> 02:14:00,917
I'm not fighting you,
I'm trying to reach you!
2898
02:14:01,083 --> 02:14:03,792
- You've changed.
- Of course, I've changed!
2899
02:14:04,750 --> 02:14:06,083
My eyes have opened.
2900
02:14:06,792 --> 02:14:09,542
And once they're open, believe me,
what used to look normal seems insane.
2901
02:14:09,625 --> 02:14:12,958
And now King. Don't you think this
has something to do with that?
2902
02:14:13,500 --> 02:14:14,708
- Can't you see?
2903
02:14:14,792 --> 02:14:16,250
- I don't wanna see, goddammit!
2904
02:14:16,333 --> 02:14:18,708
I'm tired. I've had enough!
2905
02:14:19,292 --> 02:14:20,917
You're ruining this man Shaw's life,
2906
02:14:21,000 --> 02:14:23,292
you're attacking him because
he's a homosexual!
2907
02:14:23,375 --> 02:14:25,208
That's not why I'm attacking him!
2908
02:14:25,292 --> 02:14:28,667
Did you ever for once stop to consider
what he was feeling?
2909
02:14:30,875 --> 02:14:32,708
You don't believe me? Hmm?
2910
02:14:32,792 --> 02:14:35,583
- Oh, I don't know anymore!
- All this time and you never believed me!
2911
02:14:36,625 --> 02:14:40,625
I just want to raise our children
and live a normal life!
2912
02:14:40,708 --> 02:14:42,500
I want my life back!
2913
02:14:43,458 --> 02:14:45,083
Well so do I, goddammit!
2914
02:14:45,833 --> 02:14:47,625
I had a life, too, you know.
2915
02:14:48,083 --> 02:14:51,750
But you just can't bury your head in
the sand like some goddamn ostrich, Liz!
2916
02:14:52,333 --> 02:14:55,167
It's not about our well-being, all right?
It's not about our two cars,
2917
02:14:55,250 --> 02:14:57,083
and our TVs
and your kitchen!
2918
02:14:58,708 --> 02:15:02,000
It's about our kids growing up in a
shithole of lies, and I'm angry about it!
2919
02:15:02,208 --> 02:15:04,250
And my life is fucked
because of it.
2920
02:15:04,417 --> 02:15:07,458
And if you can see it that way, Liz,
you'll see that your life is fucked, too.
2921
02:15:07,708 --> 02:15:10,125
You never talked to me this way before,
Jim Garrison.
2922
02:15:10,208 --> 02:15:12,042
If you don't want to support me, fine,
I can understand that.
2923
02:15:12,125 --> 02:15:14,042
But don't start making threats
about taking the children.
2924
02:15:14,458 --> 02:15:16,250
I'm not making any threats,
I'm leaving you!
2925
02:15:16,333 --> 02:15:18,917
- I'm taking the kids and I'm leaving!
- Go on, then, fine. Get out!
2926
02:15:19,000 --> 02:15:21,292
- I am!
- Go hide somewhere, join the rest of them.
2927
02:15:21,375 --> 02:15:22,875
- I am!
- They'll tell you I'm crazy.
2928
02:15:22,958 --> 02:15:25,500
You'll get plenty of people to tell you
I'm crazy!
2929
02:15:27,375 --> 02:15:30,167
You won't have any problems filling out
your divorce papers on me!
2930
02:15:31,750 --> 02:15:33,667
But somebody's got to try,
goddammit.
2931
02:15:34,500 --> 02:15:35,750
Somebody.
2932
02:15:40,125 --> 02:15:42,208
Are we going away, Daddy?
2933
02:15:49,583 --> 02:15:50,792
I don't know, Jasper.
2934
02:15:52,125 --> 02:15:53,917
Because of Kennedy?
2935
02:15:54,208 --> 02:15:56,708
Are the same people gonna kill us,
Papa?
2936
02:15:57,333 --> 02:15:58,167
No, Jasper.
2937
02:15:59,542 --> 02:16:01,708
Nobody's gonna kill us.
2938
02:16:02,333 --> 02:16:03,667
I'm scared.
2939
02:16:04,500 --> 02:16:07,833
I don't like it when you
and Mommy fight.
2940
02:16:10,250 --> 02:16:11,958
I know, I don't like it either,
honey.
2941
02:16:13,375 --> 02:16:15,708
Why do we have to leave?
2942
02:16:16,125 --> 02:16:18,375
Don't you love us anymore?
2943
02:16:19,208 --> 02:16:22,917
Daddy... Daddy loves both of you,
okay?
2944
02:16:24,667 --> 02:16:27,542
And there's nothing wrong with
feeling a little scared, Jasper.
2945
02:16:28,250 --> 02:16:31,333
Telling the truth can be a scary
thing sometimes.
2946
02:16:32,167 --> 02:16:35,167
It scared President Kennedy,
and he was a brave man.
2947
02:16:36,417 --> 02:16:38,875
But if you let yourself be too scared...
2948
02:16:39,250 --> 02:16:42,125
then you let the bad guys take over
the country, don't you?
2949
02:16:42,208 --> 02:16:43,958
Yeah.
2950
02:16:44,042 --> 02:16:45,875
Then everybody gets scared.
2951
02:16:46,583 --> 02:16:48,667
Stay with Mom, Papa.
2952
02:16:48,750 --> 02:16:50,083
Please?
2953
02:16:57,208 --> 02:16:59,000
- Damn. Here's another one.
2954
02:16:59,083 --> 02:17:02,292
The US Attorney in Washington declines
to serve our subpoena
2955
02:17:02,375 --> 02:17:05,375
on Allen Dulles, Charles Cabell,
CIA Director Richard Helms--
2956
02:17:05,458 --> 02:17:06,833
any FBI agent we named.
2957
02:17:07,042 --> 02:17:09,250
Well, what do you expect from a pig
but a grunt.
2958
02:17:09,875 --> 02:17:12,417
Without them, it's going to be
near impossible, chief,
2959
02:17:12,500 --> 02:17:14,292
to prove Shaw's connection
to the CIA.
2960
02:17:14,375 --> 02:17:15,917
What the hell is going on?
2961
02:17:16,000 --> 02:17:19,333
Never before has an extradition request
from this office been refused.
2962
02:17:19,417 --> 02:17:21,625
We haven't tried to get
Julia Ann Mercer in here.
2963
02:17:21,708 --> 02:17:23,125
No, she could get hurt.
2964
02:17:23,208 --> 02:17:24,083
What?
2965
02:17:24,167 --> 02:17:26,208
If you believe what's happened
to these other people, no.
2966
02:17:26,292 --> 02:17:28,208
Yeah, but she's the best damn witness
we have!
2967
02:17:28,292 --> 02:17:31,583
I just don't want to do it, that's all.
Now, what else?
2968
02:17:32,625 --> 02:17:34,292
Well, you got your hate mail here.
2969
02:17:34,542 --> 02:17:36,667
And your fan mail here.
2970
02:17:37,292 --> 02:17:41,625
The bad news is that the IRS requested an
audit of your income from this office.
2971
02:17:42,917 --> 02:17:44,708
Well, I expected that
two months ago,
2972
02:17:45,250 --> 02:17:46,583
and they're wasting their time.
2973
02:17:49,500 --> 02:17:53,167
The bad news is the National Guard
just asked me to resign after 18 years.
2974
02:17:55,000 --> 02:17:56,667
Well, maybe
that's the good news.
2975
02:17:56,750 --> 02:17:58,667
Never was as good as combat,
anyway.
2976
02:17:59,792 --> 02:18:00,958
But this is.
2977
02:18:02,458 --> 02:18:03,833
Bill,
any more on Oswald and Shaw?
2978
02:18:04,333 --> 02:18:05,958
Uh, yeah, yeah.
2979
02:18:06,042 --> 02:18:08,917
They were seen together in Clinton in
early September.
2980
02:18:09,458 --> 02:18:13,208
The Civil Rights Movement was
running a voters' registration drive.
2981
02:18:13,708 --> 02:18:17,250
Rumor is Shaw, a local boy,
was working on some arms deal
2982
02:18:17,333 --> 02:18:19,458
to discredit the civil rights movement.
2983
02:18:20,042 --> 02:18:22,875
Nobody really knows
what they were doing there, but...
2984
02:18:22,958 --> 02:18:25,125
hell, they stood out like cotton balls.
2985
02:18:25,375 --> 02:18:27,708
I got whites and coloreds
saw ‘em, but...
2986
02:18:28,125 --> 02:18:31,750
last time I checked, there was nothing
illegal with registering to vote.
2987
02:18:32,458 --> 02:18:36,375
We still got the negro junkie,
Vernon Bundy,
2988
02:18:36,458 --> 02:18:38,875
who saw 'em talkin' at the seawall
near Lake Pontchartrain.
2989
02:18:39,542 --> 02:18:42,708
But, hell, it's tough, boss,
nobody wants to talk about Shaw. He's--
2990
02:18:42,792 --> 02:18:44,417
You keep saying--
see, you keep saying that!
2991
02:18:44,500 --> 02:18:46,000
- You're not digging!
- I keep saying what?
2992
02:18:46,083 --> 02:18:47,292
- You're not digging deep enough.
- I'm not digging?
2993
02:18:47,375 --> 02:18:50,292
- You do my job, I'll do your job!
2994
02:18:50,375 --> 02:18:53,500
I think Clinton is a breakthrough,
now, all right?
2995
02:18:54,208 --> 02:18:56,667
Now, Shaw denies ever knowing
Ferrie or Oswald, right?
2996
02:18:56,917 --> 02:18:57,750
Right.
2997
02:18:57,833 --> 02:18:59,375
All right, that proves he's a liar.
2998
02:19:01,583 --> 02:19:02,708
Keep on it, Bill.
2999
02:19:02,792 --> 02:19:04,125
This is interesting.
3000
02:19:04,208 --> 02:19:07,917
Oswald went to see the FBI two weeks
before the assassination.
3001
02:19:08,000 --> 02:19:10,167
Can I see Special Agent Hosty,
please?
3002
02:19:10,250 --> 02:19:12,083
I'm sorry, he's not in.
Can someone else help you?
3003
02:19:12,167 --> 02:19:16,542
It seems Special Agent Hosty made
three visits to Janet Williams' house,
3004
02:19:16,625 --> 02:19:18,250
supposedly to keep an eye on Marina.
3005
02:19:18,333 --> 02:19:19,250
He left a note.
3006
02:19:19,333 --> 02:19:22,667
Hosty told a Dallas newspaperman that
it was a warning to him
3007
02:19:22,750 --> 02:19:26,250
to stop questioning Marina at home
when Oswald was not present.
3008
02:19:26,333 --> 02:19:31,083
She was not a citizen, so possibly he was
threatening to deport her back to Russia.
3009
02:19:31,500 --> 02:19:33,750
But what the note really said
no one knows.
3010
02:19:34,292 --> 02:19:35,958
- Hosty tore it up,
- Get rid of it!
3011
02:19:36,042 --> 02:19:37,708
- and flushed it down the toilet.
- Get rid of it, Hosty.
3012
02:19:37,792 --> 02:19:39,208
This is just speculation,
people, but
3013
02:19:39,292 --> 02:19:43,250
what if the note was describing the
assassination attempt on JFK?
3014
02:19:49,167 --> 02:19:50,667
Come on, people, think!
3015
02:19:51,083 --> 02:19:53,208
That's the only reason to destroy it.
3016
02:19:53,875 --> 02:19:57,750
Because if it was any kind of threat,
like Hosty said, they would've kept it,
3017
02:19:58,250 --> 02:20:01,750
‘cause it makes their case against
the "angry, lone nut” that much stronger.
3018
02:20:02,833 --> 02:20:04,708
Remember the New Orleans meeting
with Agent Quigley
3019
02:20:04,792 --> 02:20:06,000
- the day he got arrested?
3020
02:20:06,417 --> 02:20:08,917
There, again, Quigley destroyed the notes
from the interview.
3021
02:20:09,333 --> 02:20:13,125
I think we can raise the possibility that
Oswald not only was an informant...
3022
02:20:14,125 --> 02:20:17,625
but that he may well have been the
original source we have for the telex
3023
02:20:17,708 --> 02:20:19,250
dated November 17th,
3024
02:20:19,542 --> 02:20:23,708
warning of Kennedy's assassination
in Dallas on November 22nd.
3025
02:20:25,917 --> 02:20:29,250
William Walter, the night clerk on duty
in the FBI office here,
3026
02:20:29,333 --> 02:20:30,583
he gave me a copy of this,
3027
02:20:30,667 --> 02:20:33,208
said it went all over the country,
nothing was done,
3028
02:20:33,292 --> 02:20:35,000
and the motorcade went ahead
on schedule.
3029
02:20:35,083 --> 02:20:36,833
And this wasn't even mentioned in
the Warren Report.
3030
02:20:36,917 --> 02:20:39,125
Determined that a militant
revolutionary group
3031
02:20:39,208 --> 02:20:41,458
may attempt to assassinate
President Kennedy
3032
02:20:41,542 --> 02:20:43,708
on his proposed trip to Dallas,
Texas.
3033
02:20:43,792 --> 02:20:46,417
Shortly after the assassination,
Walter says
3034
02:20:46,917 --> 02:20:49,833
that the telex was removed from all
the files in all the cities,
3035
02:20:49,917 --> 02:20:52,208
as an obvious embarrassment
to the Bureau.
3036
02:20:53,875 --> 02:20:56,500
I believe Oswald was sending
information through Hosty.
3037
02:20:56,833 --> 02:20:58,583
I have a hunch that,
from the get go,
3038
02:20:58,667 --> 02:21:03,208
Oswald had infiltrated this group,
probably Cubans, right-wing extremists.
3039
02:21:03,292 --> 02:21:05,708
- He was told to be at the book depository
3040
02:21:05,792 --> 02:21:09,000
that day by his handlers, to either
prevent the assassination
3041
02:21:09,083 --> 02:21:10,333
or to take part in it.
3042
02:21:10,875 --> 02:21:12,083
I mean, they coulda told him
anything,
3043
02:21:12,167 --> 02:21:14,042
either they were gonna close down
the plotters
3044
02:21:14,125 --> 02:21:15,375
- that day,
3045
02:21:15,458 --> 02:21:19,333
or they were gonna simulate an attack on
Kennedy to whip up public opinion
3046
02:21:19,417 --> 02:21:22,500
so that Kennedy would have to reverse
his policies on communism.
3047
02:21:23,583 --> 02:21:25,750
It doesn't really matter what
they told him.
3048
02:21:25,833 --> 02:21:27,667
- He was under orders.
3049
02:21:27,750 --> 02:21:29,167
He was a foot soldier.
3050
02:21:29,458 --> 02:21:30,708
- And, uh...
3051
02:21:32,292 --> 02:21:33,542
You can't miss.
3052
02:21:33,708 --> 02:21:35,375
He is a dead duck.
3053
02:21:36,208 --> 02:21:37,375
I don't buy it, chief.
3054
02:21:37,833 --> 02:21:40,000
Why would the FBI cover it up?
3055
02:21:40,292 --> 02:21:44,125
A telex that disappears from every single
FBI office in this country?
3056
02:21:44,500 --> 02:21:45,750
There's a word, Bill.
3057
02:21:46,167 --> 02:21:46,917
Orders.
3058
02:21:47,000 --> 02:21:48,125
Or a cover up!
3059
02:21:48,208 --> 02:21:52,333
Jesus, Bill, don't you have enough proof
of the FBI's complicity yet?
3060
02:21:52,417 --> 02:21:54,833
Maybe I have a little more respect for
this country's institutions--
3061
02:21:54,917 --> 02:21:56,042
- My God!
- than you do, Susie!
3062
02:21:56,125 --> 02:21:57,417
How much more do you need?
3063
02:21:57,500 --> 02:22:00,292
You tell me how the hell you gonna keep
a conspiracy going on between
3064
02:22:00,375 --> 02:22:03,625
the mob, the CIA, the FBI,
and Army Intelligence,
3065
02:22:03,708 --> 02:22:05,417
and who the hell knows what else,
3066
02:22:05,500 --> 02:22:07,750
when you know for a fact you can't
keep a secret in this room
3067
02:22:07,833 --> 02:22:09,042
between 12 people.
3068
02:22:09,583 --> 02:22:11,250
We got leaks everywhere!
3069
02:22:11,417 --> 02:22:14,458
I mean, we are going to trial here,
y'all!
3070
02:22:14,542 --> 02:22:16,750
What the hell do we really got?
3071
02:22:16,833 --> 02:22:20,208
Oswald, Ruby, Banister, Ferrie
are dead!
3072
02:22:20,542 --> 02:22:23,333
Shaw, I mean maybe he's an agent,
I don't know,
3073
02:22:23,417 --> 02:22:26,917
but as a covert operator in my book
he is wide open for blackmail
3074
02:22:27,000 --> 02:22:28,500
‘cause of his homosexuality.
3075
02:22:28,583 --> 02:22:31,792
Shaw's our toehold, Bill. Now, I don't
know exactly what he is or where he fits,
3076
02:22:31,875 --> 02:22:33,083
and I don't really care.
3077
02:22:33,292 --> 02:22:36,167
I do know he's lying through his
teeth and I'm not gonna let go of him.
3078
02:22:36,250 --> 02:22:39,000
Yeah, and for those reasons, you're going
to trial against Clay Shaw, chief?
3079
02:22:39,333 --> 02:22:40,917
Well, you're gonna lose!
3080
02:22:41,125 --> 02:22:44,167
We should be investigating our mafia
leads here in New Orleans.
3081
02:22:44,250 --> 02:22:47,583
Now, I can buy that a hell of a lot easier
than I can the government.
3082
02:22:48,542 --> 02:22:52,292
Ruby is all mob, knows Oswald,
sets him up.
3083
02:22:52,750 --> 02:22:56,792
Hoffa, Trafficante, Marcello, they hire
some guns to do Kennedy,
3084
02:22:57,083 --> 02:23:01,042
and the government doesn't want to open up
a whole can of worms there because
3085
02:23:01,125 --> 02:23:03,667
it used the mob to try to get
to Castro.
3086
02:23:04,333 --> 02:23:07,833
You know, Castro being assassinated
by the mob, by us,
3087
02:23:07,917 --> 02:23:09,917
it sounds pretty wild to
John Q. Citizen.
3088
02:23:10,083 --> 02:23:13,083
So they close the book on JFK.
3089
02:23:14,167 --> 02:23:15,625
Makes perfect sense to me.
3090
02:23:15,708 --> 02:23:18,292
I don't doubt their involvement, Bill,
but at a low level.
3091
02:23:18,792 --> 02:23:20,042
- Oh, come on!
- Could the mob
3092
02:23:20,125 --> 02:23:21,708
change the parade route, Bill?
3093
02:23:22,250 --> 02:23:24,792
Or eliminate the protection for
the president?
3094
02:23:25,333 --> 02:23:28,292
Could the mob send Oswald to Russia
and get him back?
3095
02:23:28,875 --> 02:23:31,583
Could the mob get the FBI, the CIA,
and the Dallas police
3096
02:23:31,667 --> 02:23:33,125
to make a mess
of the investigation?
3097
02:23:33,208 --> 02:23:36,583
I mean, could the mob get the Warren
Commission appointed to cover it up?
3098
02:23:37,458 --> 02:23:38,917
Could the mob wreck the autopsy?
3099
02:23:39,000 --> 02:23:41,833
I mean, could the mob influence
the national media to go to sleep?
3100
02:23:42,042 --> 02:23:45,750
And since when has the mob used
anything but. 38s for hits up close?
3101
02:23:47,333 --> 02:23:50,750
The mob wouldn't have the guts or the
power for something of this magnitude.
3102
02:23:51,792 --> 02:23:53,625
Assassins need payrolls,
3103
02:23:54,333 --> 02:23:56,250
schedules, times, orders.
3104
02:23:57,375 --> 02:24:00,000
This was a military-style ambush
from start to finish.
3105
02:24:00,083 --> 02:24:03,458
This was a coup d'état with Lyndon
Johnson waiting in the wings.
3106
02:24:03,542 --> 02:24:06,375
Oh, okay, so now you're saying Lyndon
Johnson was involved?
3107
02:24:06,458 --> 02:24:08,292
- Huh? The President of the United States?
- I know this, Bill.
3108
02:24:08,375 --> 02:24:11,750
Lyndon Johnson got one billion dollars
for his Texas friends, Brown and Root,
3109
02:24:11,833 --> 02:24:14,458
to dredge Cam Ranh Bay for the military
in Vietnam.
3110
02:24:14,542 --> 02:24:15,500
- That's just for openers.
- Boss!
3111
02:24:15,583 --> 02:24:17,708
Are you calling the president
a murderer?
3112
02:24:17,792 --> 02:24:20,958
If I'm so far from the truth, why is the
FBI bugging our offices?
3113
02:24:21,083 --> 02:24:24,000
Huh? Why are our witnesses
being bought off and murdered?
3114
02:24:24,500 --> 02:24:28,167
Why are federal agencies blocking our
extraditions and subpoenas,
3115
02:24:28,250 --> 02:24:29,833
- when we were never blocked before?
- I don't know!
3116
02:24:29,917 --> 02:24:33,167
I don't-- maybe there's some rogue element
in the government or something.
3117
02:24:33,250 --> 02:24:34,750
- Oh, come on!
- With a full-blown conspiracy
3118
02:24:34,833 --> 02:24:35,708
to cover it up?
3119
02:24:36,833 --> 02:24:38,875
You ever read your Shakespeare, Bill?
3120
02:24:40,250 --> 02:24:42,208
Yeah, I do.
3121
02:24:43,375 --> 02:24:44,583
Julius Caesar.
3122
02:24:45,625 --> 02:24:48,667
"Brutus and Cassius, they, too,
are honorable men."
3123
02:24:49,708 --> 02:24:51,042
Who killed Caesar?
3124
02:24:52,125 --> 02:24:53,917
Ten, 12 senators.
3125
02:24:54,333 --> 02:24:56,958
All's it takes is one Judas,
Bill.
3126
02:24:57,083 --> 02:24:59,000
A few people on the inside.
3127
02:24:59,083 --> 02:25:00,417
Pentagon, CIA--
3128
02:25:00,500 --> 02:25:02,292
This is Louisiana, chief.
3129
02:25:02,708 --> 02:25:05,417
I mean, how the hell do you know
who your daddy is?
3130
02:25:05,667 --> 02:25:08,167
- ‘Cause your mama told you so.
3131
02:25:08,250 --> 02:25:10,917
You are way out there taking a crap
in the wind, boss,
3132
02:25:11,000 --> 02:25:14,542
and I, for one, am not going along
on this one!
3133
02:25:23,833 --> 02:25:26,250
Chief, I've had my doubts all along
about Bill.
3134
02:25:27,292 --> 02:25:28,917
Been fighting us all along.
3135
02:25:30,542 --> 02:25:32,125
Well, we need him back.
3136
02:25:32,208 --> 02:25:35,375
Boss, Broussard wasted a whole damn month
trying to prove that mob boys,
3137
02:25:35,458 --> 02:25:38,500
like Jack Ruby and Brading,
are hooked up with Hunt Oil.
3138
02:25:38,583 --> 02:25:39,542
I don't trust the guy.
3139
02:25:39,625 --> 02:25:43,542
I will not hear this, gentlemen. Now,
I value Bill as much as any person here.
3140
02:25:45,125 --> 02:25:49,417
I think it's time we all made room for
someone else's ideas, including me.
3141
02:25:50,417 --> 02:25:52,917
Maybe Oswald is what everyone says
he is and I'm just...
3142
02:25:53,833 --> 02:25:55,417
I'm just plain dumb about it.
3143
02:25:56,042 --> 02:25:58,792
I've seen him copying files,
leaving here late at night.
3144
02:25:58,875 --> 02:25:59,958
I just plain don't trust--
3145
02:26:00,042 --> 02:26:01,292
Maybe you two didn't hear
what I said.
3146
02:26:01,375 --> 02:26:04,208
Now, I said I will not tolerate infighting
among the staff!
3147
02:26:04,292 --> 02:26:07,375
I'm afraid I cannot work with
Bill Broussard anymore.
3148
02:26:08,750 --> 02:26:10,458
Are you giving me an ultimatum,
Lou?
3149
02:26:10,792 --> 02:26:11,750
What?
3150
02:26:12,125 --> 02:26:13,833
- Are you giving me an ultimatum?
3151
02:26:13,917 --> 02:26:15,542
Well,
if that's what you want to call it.
3152
02:26:18,375 --> 02:26:20,125
You know, I never thought
it would come to this.
3153
02:26:24,167 --> 02:26:25,208
I guess I am.
3154
02:26:26,750 --> 02:26:29,375
Well, I will not have any damned
ultimatums put to me, Lou.
3155
02:26:29,958 --> 02:26:31,583
I'll accept your resignation.
3156
02:26:35,375 --> 02:26:36,667
Well, you sure got it.
3157
02:26:42,292 --> 02:26:45,000
You are one stubborn
son of a bitch.
3158
02:26:47,375 --> 02:26:48,875
And you're making
a hell of a mistake.
3159
02:26:56,625 --> 02:26:59,167
Boss,
aren't you being a little hard?
3160
02:27:00,583 --> 02:27:02,458
No, I don't think I am, Susie.
3161
02:27:03,875 --> 02:27:05,167
Anyone else?
3162
02:27:10,417 --> 02:27:13,458
And now, Jerry, here's Jim Garrison,
3163
02:27:13,625 --> 02:27:16,458
the District Attorney of New Orleans,
Louisiana.
3164
02:27:31,292 --> 02:27:33,375
Welcome, District Attorney
Garrison.
3165
02:27:33,667 --> 02:27:37,125
So, you're investigating the murder of
President Kennedy.
3166
02:27:37,208 --> 02:27:40,458
You know, I must say, we have heard
some strange things
3167
02:27:40,542 --> 02:27:42,333
coming out of your office
in New Orleans.
3168
02:27:42,583 --> 02:27:46,250
First we heard that the Cuban
exiles killed the president.
3169
02:27:46,333 --> 02:27:47,625
Then, the mob.
3170
02:27:47,958 --> 02:27:51,542
Now your latest theory
seems to be that the CIA,
3171
02:27:51,625 --> 02:27:54,208
and the FBI, and the Pentagon,
3172
02:27:54,292 --> 02:27:55,583
and the White House,
3173
02:27:55,667 --> 02:27:59,708
all combined in some elaborate conspiracy
to kill John Kennedy.
3174
02:27:59,833 --> 02:28:01,083
Let me ask you,
3175
02:28:01,167 --> 02:28:03,583
is there anyone besides
Lee Harvey Oswald
3176
02:28:03,667 --> 02:28:06,250
who you think didn't conspire to kill
the president?
3177
02:28:09,458 --> 02:28:11,292
Let's just say this, Jerry.
3178
02:28:12,208 --> 02:28:13,792
I've stopped beating my wife.
3179
02:28:16,000 --> 02:28:18,667
Maybe you should ask Lyndon Johnson.
We know he has some answers.
3180
02:28:22,583 --> 02:28:26,292
Now, there have been a number of reports
in reputable news media,
3181
02:28:26,667 --> 02:28:29,000
Time, Newsweek, our own NBC,
3182
02:28:29,375 --> 02:28:34,208
that you've gone way beyond the legal
means available to a prosecutor,
3183
02:28:34,292 --> 02:28:37,333
that you've intimidated-- even drugged--
witnesses,
3184
02:28:37,417 --> 02:28:38,458
bribed them,
3185
02:28:38,542 --> 02:28:40,583
urged them to commit perjury.
3186
02:28:41,250 --> 02:28:42,500
Do you have a response to this?
3187
02:28:42,583 --> 02:28:45,583
Your faith in the veracity of the major
media is touching, Jerry.
3188
02:28:46,083 --> 02:28:49,042
It indicates that the Age of Innocence
is not yet over.
3189
02:28:49,125 --> 02:28:50,583
But ask yourself...
3190
02:28:50,667 --> 02:28:55,625
If we'd learned on November 22nd, 1963
that the Premier of Russia had been shot
3191
02:28:55,708 --> 02:28:58,958
from a Moscow office building
by a lonely, capitalist sympathizer,
3192
02:28:59,042 --> 02:29:03,292
who, himself, was then liquidated by a
patriotic Muscovite within 48 hours
3193
02:29:03,375 --> 02:29:05,125
while surrounded by armed police,
3194
02:29:05,208 --> 02:29:07,958
I think it would be pretty apparent to any
free-thinking person
3195
02:29:08,042 --> 02:29:12,208
that a coup d'état and a transfer of power
had just taken place in the Soviet Union.
3196
02:29:12,292 --> 02:29:14,500
- And we would not be asking questions
3197
02:29:14,583 --> 02:29:16,750
or attacking Jim Garrison
or his record.
3198
02:29:16,833 --> 02:29:19,000
We would,
in a free-thinking society,
3199
02:29:19,083 --> 02:29:21,625
be asking hard questions about
why he was killed
3200
02:29:21,708 --> 02:29:23,458
and what forces were opposed to him.
3201
02:29:23,542 --> 02:29:27,208
Jim, you know, there are some people
who might say you're paranoid.
3202
02:29:27,458 --> 02:29:29,000
Maybe I'd better show you
some pictures,
3203
02:29:29,083 --> 02:29:32,500
so you can begin to understand
what it is I'm talking about.
3204
02:29:34,208 --> 02:29:35,375
These are arrests.
3205
02:29:35,458 --> 02:29:37,958
Now, these arrests were
photographed...
3206
02:29:38,542 --> 02:29:40,000
minutes after the assassination.
3207
02:29:40,083 --> 02:29:42,083
Now, they were never shown
to the American public.
3208
02:29:42,167 --> 02:29:44,292
Jim, I'm sorry, these pictures
can't show up on TV.
3209
02:29:44,375 --> 02:29:45,958
- Well, sure they can.
- No, I'm sorry, they can't.
3210
02:29:46,333 --> 02:29:47,250
No, the--
3211
02:29:47,583 --> 02:29:49,583
- The camera can pick these up.
- Jim, I'm sorry.
3212
02:29:50,542 --> 02:29:53,875
They can't. We have libel laws,
you know.
3213
02:29:53,958 --> 02:29:57,542
Those men you just saw were arrested in
Dallas minutes after the assassination.
3214
02:29:57,625 --> 02:29:59,250
They were never seen again.
3215
02:29:59,375 --> 02:30:00,792
No record of arrest,
3216
02:30:01,083 --> 02:30:03,708
- no mugshot, no fingerprint.
- Jim, hold that thought.
3217
02:30:03,792 --> 02:30:05,125
- We're gonna be back,
- They got away--
3218
02:30:05,208 --> 02:30:06,042
right after these commercials.
3219
02:30:06,125 --> 02:30:07,250
- Who were they?
3220
02:30:15,542 --> 02:30:16,292
Chief!
3221
02:30:18,000 --> 02:30:20,042
Bill, what the hell
are you doing here?
3222
02:30:20,333 --> 02:30:21,792
I'm sorry about the other day,
chief.
3223
02:30:21,875 --> 02:30:23,875
I didn't mean to walk out
on you like that.
3224
02:30:25,375 --> 02:30:27,958
Bill, you came all the way
to tell me the obvious?
3225
02:30:28,542 --> 02:30:29,875
No, boss, look.
3226
02:30:30,083 --> 02:30:32,542
I just got word there's gonna be
an attempt to kill you
3227
02:30:32,625 --> 02:30:34,458
somewhere between here
and New Orleans.
3228
02:30:34,792 --> 02:30:38,250
A mob guy was brought down
by Shaw from Canada.
3229
02:30:38,417 --> 02:30:39,917
- This is serious, chief.
3230
02:30:40,000 --> 02:30:42,042
You're gonna need a bodyguard
tonight in Phoenix.
3231
02:30:42,208 --> 02:30:43,292
Bill,
when you were in the Army,
3232
02:30:43,375 --> 02:30:45,375
did you have a chance to find out
what an order meant?
3233
02:30:45,792 --> 02:30:46,542
- Hmm?
- Yes.
3234
02:30:46,625 --> 02:30:49,167
You happen to remember my ordering
everyone on the staff not to participate
3235
02:30:49,250 --> 02:30:52,208
in passing on these endless rumors about
how somebody is gonna be killed?
3236
02:30:52,292 --> 02:30:53,625
Yes, I do, boss, but this--
3237
02:30:53,708 --> 02:30:54,792
No, there is no "but."
3238
02:30:54,875 --> 02:30:57,500
There is no "but" in a military
situation, Broussard!
3239
02:30:58,000 --> 02:31:00,875
I don't appreciate your dumping this
paranoid garbage on me.
3240
02:31:01,208 --> 02:31:03,583
And I don't appreciate your inability
to follow a simple order,
3241
02:31:03,667 --> 02:31:06,708
especially when it means I'm personally
gonna end up paying for your flight
3242
02:31:06,792 --> 02:31:07,708
back to New Orleans.
3243
02:31:09,042 --> 02:31:10,542
Let's get you a ticket.
3244
02:31:12,167 --> 02:31:13,208
Boss, I'm sorry.
3245
02:31:13,292 --> 02:31:15,167
- I'm just looking out for you.
- Thank you.
3246
02:31:15,750 --> 02:31:16,917
Get a receipt.
3247
02:32:04,458 --> 02:32:06,125
Come on, come on.
He's out of here.
3248
02:32:06,208 --> 02:32:07,750
Jim, where are you going?
3249
02:32:08,167 --> 02:32:09,667
It's me, Samuel.
3250
02:32:17,125 --> 02:32:17,917
Hey!
3251
02:32:18,000 --> 02:32:20,625
- How long were you in that restroom?
- None of your goddamn business.
3252
02:33:11,250 --> 02:33:12,875
Jim, bad news,
3253
02:33:12,958 --> 02:33:14,042
Bill's turned.
3254
02:33:14,125 --> 02:33:16,625
I think he's given everything we've got
to the feds.
3255
02:33:16,708 --> 02:33:19,167
We studied the memos and there was
nothing there, chief.
3256
02:33:19,250 --> 02:33:20,167
Nothing.
3257
02:33:20,250 --> 02:33:23,667
We went to confront him and the landlady
said the son of a bitch just took off.
3258
02:33:23,875 --> 02:33:25,750
- Left everything.
3259
02:33:25,833 --> 02:33:27,583
It's unbelievable. I'm sorry.
3260
02:33:27,667 --> 02:33:30,083
Mattie, could you get Mr. Garrison
a drink, please?
3261
02:33:30,167 --> 02:33:32,000
- Something sure scared him.
3262
02:33:32,083 --> 02:33:35,542
Well, Bill doesn't scare that easy.
Somebody got to his thinking.
3263
02:33:35,625 --> 02:33:37,333
He was never that good a thinker.
3264
02:33:37,417 --> 02:33:38,917
He sure fooled us.
3265
02:33:39,833 --> 02:33:41,708
No, no, Numa, don't turn it down.
3266
02:33:41,917 --> 02:33:44,000
- Turn it up, I want to see this.
3267
02:33:44,083 --> 02:33:46,250
Well, you know what's
happening, he's winning.
3268
02:33:46,333 --> 02:33:48,875
Senator
Eugene McCarthy of Minnesota.
3269
02:33:49,250 --> 02:33:50,542
He'll never make it.
3270
02:33:51,917 --> 02:33:53,750
If he wins, they'll kill him.
3271
02:33:54,167 --> 02:33:55,625
He'll stop the war.
3272
02:33:57,292 --> 02:33:59,500
They'll kill him before they let him
be president.
3273
02:34:03,042 --> 02:34:04,458
Thank you, Mattie.
3274
02:34:04,542 --> 02:34:08,042
Boss, with Broussard,
they have everything.
3275
02:34:08,250 --> 02:34:10,667
All our witnesses,
our strategies for the trial.
3276
02:34:10,750 --> 02:34:12,542
We got to double check
his work.
3277
02:34:12,625 --> 02:34:15,417
There could be false leads.
We can't go to trial.
3278
02:34:15,792 --> 02:34:17,042
We don't have a prayer!
3279
02:34:17,125 --> 02:34:18,167
I don't think so, Al.
3280
02:34:18,250 --> 02:34:20,250
I have to agree with Al, boss.
3281
02:34:20,875 --> 02:34:23,250
This is not one
we're gonna come out on.
3282
02:34:23,458 --> 02:34:26,292
You remember the Hemingway story,
The Old Man and the Sea?
3283
02:34:27,625 --> 02:34:30,667
The old fisherman manages
to catch this great fish,
3284
02:34:31,167 --> 02:34:33,750
a fish so huge that he has to tie it
to the side of the boat
3285
02:34:33,833 --> 02:34:35,292
in order to get it back in.
3286
02:34:35,542 --> 02:34:37,292
But by the time it reached
the shore,
3287
02:34:37,542 --> 02:34:40,417
the fish had long since been picked
apart by sharks.
3288
02:34:44,292 --> 02:34:46,125
Nothing was left but the skeleton.
3289
02:34:46,208 --> 02:34:47,958
And that's what's gonna
happen to us.
3290
02:34:48,042 --> 02:34:50,208
Then what'd we go to all this
trouble for, boss?
3291
02:34:50,292 --> 02:34:51,625
It's a means to an end.
3292
02:34:52,375 --> 02:34:54,250
Now, this war has two fronts.
3293
02:34:55,667 --> 02:34:57,625
In a court of law, we hope,
against the odds,
3294
02:34:57,708 --> 02:35:00,042
to nail Clay Shaw
on a conspiracy charge.
3295
02:35:00,125 --> 02:35:04,167
In the court of public opinion, it could
take another 25, 30 years
3296
02:35:04,250 --> 02:35:06,000
for the truth to come out.
3297
02:35:08,292 --> 02:35:10,417
But at least we're gonna strike
the first blow.
3298
02:35:12,625 --> 02:35:14,250
What if you're wrong?
3299
02:35:18,458 --> 02:35:20,667
I never thought for a second
I was, honey.
3300
02:35:20,833 --> 02:35:22,542
- Liz.
3301
02:35:24,667 --> 02:35:26,333
Will you come to the trial?
3302
02:35:28,125 --> 02:35:29,625
I don't think so.
3303
02:35:38,292 --> 02:35:40,000
- CBS News has projected
3304
02:35:40,083 --> 02:35:43,458
Senator Robert Kennedy the winner of
the crucial California primary.
3305
02:35:43,542 --> 02:35:45,708
And that is what has been
going on within the United States
3306
02:35:45,792 --> 02:35:47,542
over the period of the last three years
3307
02:35:47,958 --> 02:35:49,750
the division, the violence,
3308
02:35:50,375 --> 02:35:52,792
the disenchantment
with our society,
3309
02:35:52,875 --> 02:35:54,917
the divisions, whether it's between
blacks and whites,
3310
02:35:55,000 --> 02:35:56,833
between the poor and
the more affluent,
3311
02:35:57,042 --> 02:35:59,625
or between age groups or on
the war in Vietnam,
3312
02:35:59,708 --> 02:36:02,292
that we can start to work together.
We are a great country,
3313
02:36:02,375 --> 02:36:05,125
an unselfish country,
and a compassionate country.
3314
02:36:05,208 --> 02:36:08,167
And I intend to make that
my basis for running...
3315
02:36:28,208 --> 02:36:29,917
Senator Kennedy has been shot!
3316
02:36:30,208 --> 02:36:33,917
We don't know how serious it is, but we do
know Senator Kennedy has been shot!
3317
02:36:36,375 --> 02:36:38,792
Get the gun! Get the gun!
3318
02:36:40,292 --> 02:36:41,833
Stay away from the gun!
3319
02:37:13,542 --> 02:37:15,125
They killed him, honey.
3320
02:37:15,208 --> 02:37:16,667
Hmm?
3321
02:37:17,625 --> 02:37:21,125
He won, and they killed
Robert Kennedy.
3322
02:37:22,208 --> 02:37:24,500
- No.
- They shot him down.
3323
02:37:25,500 --> 02:37:28,500
Oh, my God.
3324
02:37:31,458 --> 02:37:33,458
Both of them?
3325
02:37:33,708 --> 02:37:35,958
Both brothers?
3326
02:37:40,500 --> 02:37:42,167
You were right.
3327
02:37:44,042 --> 02:37:45,500
It hasn't ended.
3328
02:37:53,500 --> 02:37:55,083
For the first time...
3329
02:37:57,125 --> 02:37:59,042
I feel really scared.
3330
02:38:11,667 --> 02:38:14,625
I wish I could've loved you more.
3331
02:38:16,833 --> 02:38:21,667
Sometimes I feel like I didn't ever
love you
3332
02:38:22,458 --> 02:38:24,625
or the children enough.
3333
02:38:26,708 --> 02:38:29,208
I'm sorry.
3334
02:39:11,417 --> 02:39:12,917
Please rise.
3335
02:39:13,042 --> 02:39:14,958
Oyez, oyez, oyez!
3336
02:39:15,042 --> 02:39:18,417
The Criminal District Court for
Orleans Parish, Section H,
3337
02:39:18,500 --> 02:39:19,833
is now in session.
3338
02:39:20,375 --> 02:39:23,292
Honorable Judge Edward A. Haggerty,
Junior presiding.
3339
02:39:23,625 --> 02:39:24,792
Please be seated.
3340
02:39:29,833 --> 02:39:31,250
That's Clay Bertrand.
3341
02:39:31,333 --> 02:39:33,333
That's the man I saw at
David Ferrie's.
3342
02:39:33,417 --> 02:39:35,417
That's who you say you saw,
3343
02:39:36,417 --> 02:39:38,417
a confessed homosexual,
3344
02:39:39,125 --> 02:39:42,000
convicted of pandering
and solicitation,
3345
02:39:42,458 --> 02:39:44,958
a man who has lied
about everything,
3346
02:39:45,333 --> 02:39:47,583
and now wants to be taken
at his word.
3347
02:39:47,667 --> 02:39:50,750
It was that man right there.
Yes, sir.
3348
02:39:50,917 --> 02:39:53,417
He was at the Pontchartrain wall,
3349
02:39:53,792 --> 02:39:56,042
with the man
who shot the president.
3350
02:39:57,125 --> 02:40:00,000
I remember him ‘cause of his limp.
3351
02:40:00,083 --> 02:40:02,917
A heroin addict,
injecting himself at the wall,
3352
02:40:03,000 --> 02:40:05,417
barely conscious
of his surroundings.
3353
02:40:05,583 --> 02:40:06,750
Is that the man?
3354
02:40:06,917 --> 02:40:08,458
That was the man, right there.
3355
02:40:08,792 --> 02:40:11,042
He dropped Oswald off
on the voters' line.
3356
02:40:11,417 --> 02:40:14,500
I remember ‘cause they were the
only white strangers around that morning.
3357
02:40:14,583 --> 02:40:18,417
That big, black Cadillac of his
made me think they might be FBI.
3358
02:40:21,917 --> 02:40:26,083
Said he was a representative of one
International Trade Mart in New Orleans.
3359
02:40:26,375 --> 02:40:29,167
More than five years ago,
for two minutes.
3360
02:40:29,583 --> 02:40:32,000
It's fair to say you could
be mistaken.
3361
02:40:32,083 --> 02:40:34,208
It was just a figment of my imagination.
3362
02:40:34,292 --> 02:40:37,292
The cat's stewing you, the oyster's
shucking you, I told him.
3363
02:40:37,375 --> 02:40:40,083
You got the right ta-ta,
but the wrong ho-ho.
3364
02:40:41,083 --> 02:40:44,375
Bertrand is not Shaw, scout's honor,
and you can tell him I said so.
3365
02:40:44,458 --> 02:40:46,000
Objection, your Honor.
This office has won
3366
02:40:46,083 --> 02:40:49,208
a conviction of perjury against
Dean Andrews on this matter.
3367
02:40:49,292 --> 02:40:51,500
Exception taken.
That case is on appeal.
3368
02:40:52,708 --> 02:40:53,875
Mr. Goldberg,
3369
02:40:54,375 --> 02:40:57,375
you claim that you met David Ferrie
and Clay Shaw on a vacation trip
3370
02:40:57,458 --> 02:40:59,542
from your accounting business in New York.
3371
02:40:59,625 --> 02:41:00,708
You had drinks...
3372
02:41:01,125 --> 02:41:04,375
and, under the influence, discussed
killing Kennedy, is that not so?
3373
02:41:04,458 --> 02:41:05,542
Yes, I did.
3374
02:41:05,625 --> 02:41:07,917
Is it not also true that you
fingerprinted your daughter
3375
02:41:08,000 --> 02:41:10,250
when she went to Louisiana
State University?
3376
02:41:10,583 --> 02:41:11,625
Yes, sir, I did.
3377
02:41:11,833 --> 02:41:14,708
And is it not also true that you
fingerprinted her when she returned
3378
02:41:14,792 --> 02:41:15,875
at the end of the semester?
3379
02:41:15,958 --> 02:41:17,250
Yes, I did.
3380
02:41:17,583 --> 02:41:18,500
Why?
3381
02:41:18,958 --> 02:41:22,208
Well, I wanted to make sure that she was
the same girl I sent away.
3382
02:41:25,667 --> 02:41:28,000
He was one of Broussard's
witnesses, chief.
3383
02:41:28,083 --> 02:41:30,292
He was totally sane when we took
his affidavit.
3384
02:41:30,375 --> 02:41:34,333
Your Honor, we call police officer
Aloysius Habighorst to the stand.
3385
02:41:35,000 --> 02:41:37,625
I'm going to have to ask the jury to
leave the courtroom.
3386
02:41:37,708 --> 02:41:38,958
Gentlemen, will you please rise
3387
02:41:39,042 --> 02:41:40,000
- What?
- and follow me?
3388
02:41:40,375 --> 02:41:41,958
Name. First, middle, and last.
3389
02:41:42,042 --> 02:41:43,625
Clay Lavergne Shaw.
3390
02:41:43,708 --> 02:41:45,792
The defendant did not have his lawyer
present when asked!
3391
02:41:45,875 --> 02:41:48,125
Jesus, Ed, from time immemorial, it's
been standard booking procedure
3392
02:41:48,208 --> 02:41:50,458
- to ask an alias, you know that!
- I call ‘em as I see ‘em!
3393
02:41:50,542 --> 02:41:52,417
- Ever use any aliases?
- Clay Bertrand.
3394
02:41:55,167 --> 02:41:57,583
There's no constitutional requirement
that says a lawyer
3395
02:41:57,667 --> 02:41:59,333
- has to be present for routine questions!
- I'm ruling it inadmissible!
3396
02:41:59,417 --> 02:42:02,375
- I'm ruling it inadmissible.
- Well, hell, Ed, that's our case!
3397
02:42:02,792 --> 02:42:05,292
If that's your case,
you didn't have a case.
3398
02:42:05,583 --> 02:42:08,667
I wouldn't believe anything
Habighorst said, anyway.
3399
02:42:08,750 --> 02:42:10,583
I can't believe you're saying this
in the courtroom.
3400
02:42:10,667 --> 02:42:13,167
Well, I am saying it.
Bring in the jury.
3401
02:42:17,042 --> 02:42:18,083
Oswald?
3402
02:42:19,292 --> 02:42:20,042
No, I did not.
3403
02:42:20,458 --> 02:42:22,417
Ever called Dean Andrews?
3404
02:42:22,500 --> 02:42:23,875
No, I did not.
3405
02:42:25,083 --> 02:42:27,375
And have you ever met
David Ferrie?
3406
02:42:27,458 --> 02:42:28,542
No.
3407
02:42:28,792 --> 02:42:30,000
Wouldn't even know what
he looked like,
3408
02:42:30,083 --> 02:42:32,292
if it hadn't been for the pictures
I'd been shown.
3409
02:42:33,792 --> 02:42:35,917
Did you ever use the alias
Clay Bertrand?
3410
02:42:36,000 --> 02:42:36,875
No.
3411
02:42:37,375 --> 02:42:38,458
I did not.
3412
02:42:39,417 --> 02:42:41,083
Thank you, Mr. Shaw.
3413
02:42:44,500 --> 02:42:47,875
Well, a very great actor has just given us
a great performance, Your Honor,
3414
02:42:47,958 --> 02:42:50,042
but we are nowhere closer
to the truth.
3415
02:42:51,083 --> 02:42:53,958
Let it be noted that my office is
charging Clay Shaw
3416
02:42:54,042 --> 02:42:57,750
with outright perjury on the 15 answers he
has given in this courtroom today,
3417
02:42:57,833 --> 02:42:59,958
not one word of truth
having escaped his lips--
3418
02:43:00,083 --> 02:43:02,250
You're out of order, Jim Boy,
now sit down!
3419
02:43:11,167 --> 02:43:14,292
To prove there was a conspiracy
involving Clay Shaw,
3420
02:43:14,833 --> 02:43:17,167
we must first prove that there was
more than one man
3421
02:43:17,250 --> 02:43:18,833
involved in the assassination.
3422
02:43:19,958 --> 02:43:21,208
To do that...
3423
02:43:21,292 --> 02:43:24,292
we must look at the Zapruder film,
which my office has subpoenaed.
3424
02:43:25,500 --> 02:43:27,708
- The American public has not seen that--
3425
02:43:29,833 --> 02:43:31,958
The American public
has not seen that film
3426
02:43:32,042 --> 02:43:35,500
because it has been kept locked away in
a vault for the last five years,
3427
02:43:35,750 --> 02:43:38,083
in the Time-Life Building
in New York City.
3428
02:43:39,292 --> 02:43:40,750
There's a reason for that.
3429
02:43:42,375 --> 02:43:43,500
Watch.
3430
02:44:33,583 --> 02:44:35,792
Picture speaks a thousand
words, doesn't it.
3431
02:44:37,750 --> 02:44:40,417
The Warren Commission thought they had
an open-and-shut case.
3432
02:44:40,875 --> 02:44:42,542
Three bullets, one assassin.
3433
02:44:43,750 --> 02:44:47,417
But two unpredictable things happened that
day that made it virtually impossible.
3434
02:44:47,500 --> 02:44:51,125
One, the eight-millimeter home movie
taken by Abraham Zapruder
3435
02:44:51,208 --> 02:44:52,917
while standing near the grassy knoll.
3436
02:44:53,458 --> 02:44:54,250
And two,
3437
02:44:54,333 --> 02:44:56,208
the third wounded man,
James Tague,
3438
02:44:56,292 --> 02:44:57,708
who was nicked by a fragment
3439
02:44:57,875 --> 02:45:00,083
while standing near the
Triple Underpass.
3440
02:45:00,667 --> 02:45:04,375
The time frame of 5.6 seconds
established by the Zapruder film,
3441
02:45:04,542 --> 02:45:07,167
left no possibility of
a fourth shot.
3442
02:45:07,458 --> 02:45:09,167
So the shot or fragment
3443
02:45:09,250 --> 02:45:11,667
that left a superficial wound on
Tague's cheek,
3444
02:45:12,000 --> 02:45:13,667
had to come from one of
the three bullets
3445
02:45:13,750 --> 02:45:16,000
fired from the sixth floor
of the depository.
3446
02:45:17,083 --> 02:45:18,583
That leaves just two bullets.
3447
02:45:19,458 --> 02:45:22,792
And we know one of them was the fatal
head shot that killed Kennedy.
3448
02:45:24,792 --> 02:45:26,750
So, now, a single bullet remains.
3449
02:45:26,833 --> 02:45:29,583
A single bullet now has to account
for the remaining
3450
02:45:29,667 --> 02:45:31,500
seven wounds in Kennedy
and Connally.
3451
02:45:32,333 --> 02:45:35,500
But rather than admit to a conspiracy
or investigate further,
3452
02:45:35,583 --> 02:45:38,750
the Warren Commission chose to endorse
the theory put forth
3453
02:45:38,833 --> 02:45:41,542
by an ambitious junior counsellor,
Arlen Specter,
3454
02:45:41,625 --> 02:45:45,375
one of the grossest lies ever forced on
the American people.
3455
02:45:46,625 --> 02:45:49,250
We've come to know it as the
"magic bullet" theory.
3456
02:45:49,875 --> 02:45:51,417
The magic bullet...
3457
02:45:51,500 --> 02:45:55,625
enters the President's back, headed
downward at an angle of 17 degrees.
3458
02:45:56,333 --> 02:45:58,000
It then moves upward,
3459
02:45:58,083 --> 02:46:01,333
in order to leave Kennedy's body
from the front of his neck,
3460
02:46:01,625 --> 02:46:02,917
wound number two,
3461
02:46:03,708 --> 02:46:06,292
where it waits 1.6 seconds,
3462
02:46:06,375 --> 02:46:09,042
presumably in midair,
where it turns right,
3463
02:46:09,542 --> 02:46:10,583
then left,
3464
02:46:11,000 --> 02:46:13,333
right, then left,
3465
02:46:13,417 --> 02:46:16,875
and continues into Connally's body
at the rear of his right armpit,
3466
02:46:17,042 --> 02:46:18,333
wound number three.
3467
02:46:19,000 --> 02:46:20,792
The bullet then heads
downward,
3468
02:46:20,875 --> 02:46:24,417
at an angle of 27 degrees,
shattering Connally's fifth rib,
3469
02:46:24,500 --> 02:46:26,917
and exiting from the right side
of his chest,
3470
02:46:27,125 --> 02:46:28,333
wound number four.
3471
02:46:29,000 --> 02:46:30,667
The bullet then turns right,
3472
02:46:31,167 --> 02:46:34,083
and reenters Connally's body
at his right wrist,
3473
02:46:34,333 --> 02:46:35,708
would number five.
3474
02:46:36,333 --> 02:46:38,167
Shattering the radius bone,
3475
02:46:38,417 --> 02:46:41,625
the bullet then exits Connally's wrist,
wound number six,
3476
02:46:41,750 --> 02:46:43,792
makes a dramatic U-turn,
3477
02:46:43,875 --> 02:46:46,625
and buries itself into Connally's
left thigh,
3478
02:46:46,708 --> 02:46:49,917
wound number seven,
from which it later falls out,
3479
02:46:50,208 --> 02:46:52,875
and is found in almost "pristine"
condition,
3480
02:46:53,375 --> 02:46:56,042
on a stretcher in a corridor of
Parkland Hospital.
3481
02:46:59,042 --> 02:47:00,208
That's some bullet.
3482
02:47:02,125 --> 02:47:05,333
Anyone who's been in combat will tell you
never in the history of gunfire
3483
02:47:05,417 --> 02:47:07,708
has there been a bullet this
ridiculous.
3484
02:47:08,958 --> 02:47:10,958
Yet the government says
it can prove it,
3485
02:47:11,042 --> 02:47:13,667
with some fancy physics in a nuclear
laboratory.
3486
02:47:14,333 --> 02:47:15,625
Course they can.
3487
02:47:16,042 --> 02:47:19,292
Theoretical physics can prove that
an elephant can hang from a cliff
3488
02:47:19,375 --> 02:47:21,167
with his tail tied to a daisy.
3489
02:47:22,542 --> 02:47:24,583
But use your eyes,
your common sense.
3490
02:47:25,292 --> 02:47:28,125
The Army Wound Ballistics experts
at Edgewood Arsenal
3491
02:47:28,208 --> 02:47:29,833
fired some comparison bullets.
3492
02:47:30,167 --> 02:47:32,500
Not one of them looked anything
like this.
3493
02:47:34,208 --> 02:47:36,625
Take a look at CE 856,
3494
02:47:37,333 --> 02:47:41,542
an identical bullet fired through the
wrist of a human cadaver.
3495
02:47:42,625 --> 02:47:45,625
Just one of the bones smashed by
the magic bullet.
3496
02:47:46,667 --> 02:47:48,292
Seven wounds, gentlemen.
3497
02:47:48,667 --> 02:47:51,542
Tough skin, dense bones.
3498
02:47:53,208 --> 02:47:55,500
This single bullet explanation...
3499
02:47:55,583 --> 02:47:59,292
is the foundation of the Warren
Commission's claim of a lone assassin.
3500
02:48:00,167 --> 02:48:01,417
And once you conclude
3501
02:48:01,500 --> 02:48:04,792
the magic bullet could not create all
seven of those wounds,
3502
02:48:04,875 --> 02:48:07,833
you have to conclude
that there was a fourth shot
3503
02:48:07,917 --> 02:48:09,208
and a second rifleman.
3504
02:48:10,792 --> 02:48:12,333
And if there was
a second rifleman...
3505
02:48:13,333 --> 02:48:14,500
then, by definition,
3506
02:48:14,833 --> 02:48:16,958
- there had to be a conspiracy,
3507
02:48:17,042 --> 02:48:19,875
which we believe involves
the accused Clay Shaw.
3508
02:48:20,958 --> 02:48:24,458
Fifty-one witnesses, gentlemen of the
jury, thought they heard shots
3509
02:48:24,583 --> 02:48:26,417
coming from the grassy knoll,
3510
02:48:26,500 --> 02:48:29,458
which is to the right and front of
the president.
3511
02:48:30,625 --> 02:48:32,250
Key witnesses that day,
3512
02:48:33,042 --> 02:48:35,583
Charles Brehm,
a combat vet.
3513
02:48:35,958 --> 02:48:39,167
- Right behind, Jean Hill and Mary Moorman.
- Hey, Mr. President!
3514
02:48:39,250 --> 02:48:43,625
S. M. Holland, Richard Dodd, James
Simmons standing on the overpass.
3515
02:48:43,708 --> 02:48:46,792
J. C. Price,
overlooking the whole Plaza.
3516
02:48:47,375 --> 02:48:51,375
William Newman, father of two children,
who hit the deck
3517
02:48:51,458 --> 02:48:54,167
- on the north side of EIm.
3518
02:48:54,250 --> 02:48:55,917
Abraham Zapruder.
3519
02:49:12,583 --> 02:49:15,583
Each of these key witnesses
has no doubt whatsoever
3520
02:49:15,667 --> 02:49:18,375
one or more shots came from
behind the picket fence.
3521
02:49:19,917 --> 02:49:23,042
Twenty-six trained medical personnel
at Parkland Hospital
3522
02:49:23,125 --> 02:49:25,875
saw, with their own eyes,
the back of the president's head
3523
02:49:25,958 --> 02:49:27,250
blasted out!
3524
02:49:29,208 --> 02:49:30,292
Dr. Peters.
3525
02:49:31,667 --> 02:49:33,833
There was a large,
seven-centimeter opening
3526
02:49:33,917 --> 02:49:36,208
in the right
occipitoparietal area.
3527
02:49:36,292 --> 02:49:39,708
A considerable portion of the brain
was missing there.
3528
02:49:40,625 --> 02:49:44,125
Almost a fifth or possibly a quarter
of the back of the head
3529
02:49:44,208 --> 02:49:45,667
had been blasted out,
3530
02:49:45,750 --> 02:49:48,208
- along with the underlying brain tissue.
- Father, what is the proper time to
3531
02:49:48,292 --> 02:49:50,958
declare one dead for the
last rites?
3532
02:49:51,042 --> 02:49:53,000
There was also a large
fragment of skull
3533
02:49:53,083 --> 02:49:55,167
attached to a flap of scalp.
3534
02:49:55,250 --> 02:49:59,458
The exit hole in the rear of his head
measured about 120 millimeters,
3535
02:49:59,542 --> 02:50:01,250
or five inches across.
3536
02:50:01,333 --> 02:50:04,042
Not one of the civilian doctors
who examined the president
3537
02:50:04,125 --> 02:50:05,417
at Parkland Hospital
3538
02:50:05,500 --> 02:50:08,583
regarded his throat wound as anything
but a wound of entry.
3539
02:50:09,750 --> 02:50:13,042
But then the body was illegally moved
to Washington for the autopsy.
3540
02:50:13,417 --> 02:50:15,208
Because when a coup d'état
has occurred,
3541
02:50:15,292 --> 02:50:16,792
- Hold it!
- there's a big difference...
3542
02:50:16,875 --> 02:50:18,875
- between an autopsy that is performed
3543
02:50:18,958 --> 02:50:20,125
- by civilian doctors,
- You're not taking him!
3544
02:50:20,208 --> 02:50:22,875
and one that is performed by military
doctors under order.
3545
02:50:24,958 --> 02:50:28,167
The departure of Air Force One from
Love Field that Friday afternoon
3546
02:50:28,250 --> 02:50:31,375
was not so much a takeoff
as it was a getaway
3547
02:50:31,458 --> 02:50:33,208
with the newly sworn in president.
3548
02:50:33,292 --> 02:50:34,625
Objection, Your Honor.
3549
02:50:34,708 --> 02:50:35,542
Sustained.
3550
02:50:35,625 --> 02:50:36,542
On the plane, of course,
3551
02:50:36,625 --> 02:50:38,583
Lee Harvey Oswald's guilt
was announced
3552
02:50:38,667 --> 02:50:41,208
by the White House Situation Room
to all passengers
3553
02:50:41,292 --> 02:50:44,042
before any kind of investigation
had started,
3554
02:50:44,542 --> 02:50:47,208
the "angry, lone nut" solution beginning
to take its shape.
3555
02:50:47,292 --> 02:50:48,958
Objection, Your Honor!
3556
02:50:49,042 --> 02:50:50,125
Sustained.
3557
02:50:50,375 --> 02:50:53,792
Mr. Garrison,
will you please bottle the acid!
3558
02:50:55,833 --> 02:50:57,958
The three Bethesda Naval
Hospital doctors
3559
02:50:58,042 --> 02:51:00,667
picked by the military
left something to be desired
3560
02:51:00,750 --> 02:51:04,417
insomuch as none of them had any
experience with combat gunfire wounds.
3561
02:51:04,750 --> 02:51:07,583
Through their autopsy, we've been
able to justify eight wounds
3562
02:51:07,667 --> 02:51:08,958
- from just two bullets.
3563
02:51:09,500 --> 02:51:11,458
Three to Kennedy, five to Connally,
3564
02:51:11,917 --> 02:51:14,292
- Look what I found on the floor.
- one of them being the magic bullet.
3565
02:51:14,375 --> 02:51:15,917
- FBI?
- Here.
3566
02:51:16,000 --> 02:51:19,667
Colonel Finck, are you saying
someone told you not to dissect the neck?
3567
02:51:20,125 --> 02:51:22,792
I was told that the family wanted
the examination of the head.
3568
02:51:23,833 --> 02:51:25,042
Oh, Christ.
3569
02:51:25,125 --> 02:51:26,917
Looks like half his brain
is gone.
3570
02:51:27,000 --> 02:51:27,917
Let's weigh it.
3571
02:51:28,000 --> 02:51:29,583
653 grams.
3572
02:51:29,667 --> 02:51:31,875
As a pathologist,
it was your obligation
3573
02:51:31,958 --> 02:51:34,625
to explore all possible
causes of death, was it not?
3574
02:51:34,750 --> 02:51:36,167
I had the cause of death.
3575
02:51:36,250 --> 02:51:39,958
Your Honor, I would ask you to direct
the witness to answer my question.
3576
02:51:40,708 --> 02:51:43,667
Why did Colonel Finck not dissect the
track of the bullet wound?
3577
02:51:43,750 --> 02:51:46,292
- Obvious tracheotomy...
- Well, I heard Dr. Humes stating that...
3578
02:51:46,417 --> 02:51:50,000
That's enough, that's enough.
It's duly noted.
3579
02:51:50,375 --> 02:51:51,792
Okay, let's check the
back, gentlemen.
3580
02:51:51,875 --> 02:51:53,042
All right.
3581
02:51:54,583 --> 02:51:57,458
There's a considerable amount of
spinal fluid coming out of his right ear.
3582
02:51:59,792 --> 02:52:02,125
I can feel the end of the
wound with my finger.
3583
02:52:02,208 --> 02:52:04,125
That won't be necessary,
Commander.
3584
02:52:06,958 --> 02:52:08,917
- Watch the ear, watch the ear.
- Yes, sir.
3585
02:52:09,708 --> 02:52:12,292
Shot in the back.
Cheap crime.
3586
02:52:12,458 --> 02:52:15,292
- He said...
- Who's in charge, here?
3587
02:52:15,833 --> 02:52:16,958
I am.
3588
02:52:18,208 --> 02:52:19,667
I don't remember his name.
3589
02:52:20,250 --> 02:52:22,292
You must understand it was
quite crowded.
3590
02:52:22,375 --> 02:52:24,167
And when you are called,
in circumstances like that,
3591
02:52:24,250 --> 02:52:26,167
to look at the wound of the president,
who is dead,
3592
02:52:26,250 --> 02:52:29,167
you don't look around a lot to ask people
for their names and who they are.
3593
02:52:29,292 --> 02:52:31,083
But you were a qualified
pathologist.
3594
02:52:31,167 --> 02:52:33,708
Was this Army general a qualified
pathologist?
3595
02:52:33,792 --> 02:52:35,750
- No.
3596
02:52:35,833 --> 02:52:37,708
No,
but you took his orders?
3597
02:52:37,792 --> 02:52:38,708
Yes.
3598
02:52:38,792 --> 02:52:40,958
- So he was directing the autopsy?
- No.
3599
02:52:41,042 --> 02:52:43,000
- No?
- No, no, because there were others.
3600
02:52:43,125 --> 02:52:44,292
There were others?
3601
02:52:44,375 --> 02:52:46,375
There were others.
There were admirals.
3602
02:52:46,625 --> 02:52:48,125
- Oh, there were admirals.
- Oh, yes.
3603
02:52:48,208 --> 02:52:51,167
And when you are a lieutenant colonel
in the Army, you just follow orders.
3604
02:52:51,292 --> 02:52:56,083
It is not our business to discuss this
with anyone outside this room.
3605
02:52:56,167 --> 02:52:59,167
As I recall it was Admiral Kenney,
the surgeon general of the Navy.
3606
02:52:59,250 --> 02:53:02,250
We were specifically told
not to discuss the case.
3607
02:53:05,292 --> 02:53:08,750
A lot of people that day were deciding
what was private,
3608
02:53:08,833 --> 02:53:11,083
none of the American people's
business.
3609
02:53:11,708 --> 02:53:13,750
The chief pathologist,
Commander Humes,
3610
02:53:13,833 --> 02:53:17,125
by his own admission
voluntarily burned his autopsy notes.
3611
02:53:17,833 --> 02:53:20,417
President Johnson orders the
blood-soaked limousine,
3612
02:53:20,500 --> 02:53:22,042
filled with bullet holes
and clues,
3613
02:53:22,125 --> 02:53:24,292
to be immediately washed
and rebuilt.
3614
02:53:24,375 --> 02:53:27,583
He sends John Connally's bloody suit
right to the cleaners,
3615
02:53:28,375 --> 02:53:32,583
The Justice Department denied this office
access to the autopsy photos.
3616
02:53:33,542 --> 02:53:35,000
And when we finally get
a court order
3617
02:53:35,083 --> 02:53:38,250
to examine President Kennedy's brain
in the National Archives,
3618
02:53:38,333 --> 02:53:41,583
in the hopes of finding from
which direction the bullet came from,
3619
02:53:41,917 --> 02:53:43,917
we're told by the government...
3620
02:53:44,000 --> 02:53:45,417
your government...
3621
02:53:45,500 --> 02:53:48,250
that the president's brain has
disappeared.
3622
02:53:51,542 --> 02:53:53,042
That's not all that's disappeared,
gentlemen.
3623
02:53:53,125 --> 02:53:55,292
With it, I think,
the concept of justice.
3624
02:53:55,375 --> 02:53:56,667
Objection, Your Honor!
3625
02:53:56,750 --> 02:53:59,708
Not only has Mr. Garrison insulted
the federal government,
3626
02:53:59,792 --> 02:54:02,792
- but he is also introducing--
- Overruled! Overruled!
3627
02:54:09,000 --> 02:54:11,167
So what really happened that day?
3628
02:54:11,708 --> 02:54:14,417
Let's just for a moment speculate,
shall we?
3629
02:54:14,875 --> 02:54:17,833
We have the epileptic seizure
around 12:15 p.m.
3630
02:54:17,917 --> 02:54:19,083
distracting the police,
3631
02:54:19,167 --> 02:54:22,000
making it easier for the shooters to
move into their places.
3632
02:54:22,708 --> 02:54:24,708
The epileptic later vanished,
3633
02:54:24,792 --> 02:54:27,083
- never checking into the hospital.
3634
02:54:27,958 --> 02:54:30,708
The A Team gets on the sixth floor
of the depository.
3635
02:54:31,292 --> 02:54:33,958
Now, they were refurbishing the floors
in the depository that week,
3636
02:54:34,042 --> 02:54:36,917
which allowed unknown workmen
in and out of the building.
3637
02:54:38,167 --> 02:54:41,417
They move quickly into position, just
minutes before the shooting.
3638
02:54:41,917 --> 02:54:44,750
The second spotter on the radio
talking to the two other teams
3639
02:54:44,833 --> 02:54:48,292
has the best overall view,
"the God spot.”
3640
02:54:48,375 --> 02:54:49,792
- B Team,
3641
02:54:49,875 --> 02:54:53,708
one rifleman and one spotter with a
headset and access to the building,
3642
02:54:53,792 --> 02:54:56,333
moves into the low floor of the
Dal-Tex Building.
3643
02:54:57,750 --> 02:55:01,375
The third team, the C Team, moves in
behind the picket fence
3644
02:55:01,458 --> 02:55:02,708
above the grassy knoll,
3645
02:55:02,792 --> 02:55:06,000
where the shooter and the spotter are
first seen by the late Lee Bowers
3646
02:55:06,083 --> 02:55:07,750
in the watchtower of the railyard.
3647
02:55:08,208 --> 02:55:10,333
- They have the best position of all.
3648
02:55:10,708 --> 02:55:14,167
Kennedy is close and on a flat,
low trajectory.
3649
02:55:14,625 --> 02:55:16,542
Part of this team is a coordinator,
3650
02:55:16,625 --> 02:55:19,167
who's flashed security credentials
at several people,
3651
02:55:19,250 --> 02:55:21,875
- chasing them out of the parking lot area.
3652
02:55:21,958 --> 02:55:26,250
Probably two to three more men are down
in the crowd on Elm.
3653
02:55:26,333 --> 02:55:30,333
Ten to 12 men, three teams,
three shooters.
3654
02:55:30,417 --> 02:55:34,792
The triangulation of fire Clay Shaw and
David Ferrie discussed two months before.
3655
02:55:35,333 --> 02:55:37,875
- They've walked the Plaza.
3656
02:55:37,958 --> 02:55:39,875
They know every inch.
3657
02:55:41,750 --> 02:55:45,667
They've calibrated their sights,
they've practiced on moving targets.
3658
02:55:46,583 --> 02:55:48,083
They're ready.
3659
02:55:48,833 --> 02:55:52,167
Kennedy's motorcade makes a turn from Main
onto Houston.
3660
02:55:52,875 --> 02:55:55,833
- It's gonna be a turkey shoot.
3661
02:55:56,708 --> 02:55:58,750
- They don't shoot him coming up Houston,
3662
02:55:58,833 --> 02:56:02,583
which is the easiest shot for a single
shooter in the book depository!
3663
02:56:02,708 --> 02:56:03,875
They wait.
3664
02:56:03,958 --> 02:56:07,208
They wait till he gets to the killing zone
between three rifles.
3665
02:56:07,708 --> 02:56:11,583
Kennedy makes the final turn from
Houston onto EIm,
3666
02:56:11,667 --> 02:56:12,583
- slowing down...
3667
02:56:12,667 --> 02:56:15,542
- to some 11 miles an hour.
3668
02:56:15,625 --> 02:56:19,625
The shooters across Dealey Plaza tighten,
taking their aim,
3669
02:56:21,208 --> 02:56:23,333
waiting for the radio to say,
3670
02:56:23,417 --> 02:56:25,167
"green, green!"
3671
02:56:25,250 --> 02:56:27,625
or "abort, abort!"
3672
02:56:33,875 --> 02:56:35,500
The first shot rings out.
3673
02:56:36,833 --> 02:56:39,792
Sounding like a backfire, it misses the
car completely.
3674
02:56:40,208 --> 02:56:43,875
Frame 161, Kennedy stops waving as he
hears something.
3675
02:56:43,958 --> 02:56:46,542
Connally's head turns
slightly to the right.
3676
02:56:46,917 --> 02:56:51,083
Frame 193, the second shot hits Kennedy
in the throat from the front.
3677
02:56:51,167 --> 02:56:52,708
- Frame 225,
3678
02:56:52,792 --> 02:56:55,250
the president emerging from
behind the road sign.
3679
02:56:55,333 --> 02:56:58,792
You can see that he's obviously been hit,
raising his arms to his throat.
3680
02:56:59,125 --> 02:57:01,708
- The third shot, frame 232,
3681
02:57:01,792 --> 02:57:05,333
hits Kennedy in the back, pulling him
downward and forward.
3682
02:57:05,750 --> 02:57:08,958
Connally, you will notice, shows no signs
at all of being hit.
3683
02:57:09,042 --> 02:57:10,750
He is visibly holding his Stetson,
3684
02:57:10,833 --> 02:57:13,125
which is impossible if his wrist has
been shattered.
3685
02:57:13,250 --> 02:57:15,042
Connally is turning here now.
3686
02:57:15,208 --> 02:57:17,708
Frame 238, the fourth shot.
3687
02:57:17,792 --> 02:57:19,000
It misses Kennedy,
3688
02:57:19,083 --> 02:57:21,208
- and takes Connally in the back.
3689
02:57:21,375 --> 02:57:24,083
This is the shot that proves there were
two rifles.
3690
02:57:24,292 --> 02:57:27,583
Connally yells out,
"My God, they're going to kill us all!"
3691
02:57:27,875 --> 02:57:31,375
Somewhere around this time now, another
shot that misses the car completely
3692
02:57:31,458 --> 02:57:32,708
- strikes James Tague
3693
02:57:32,792 --> 02:57:34,417
down by the underpass.
3694
02:57:34,500 --> 02:57:36,458
- The car brakes.
3695
02:57:36,542 --> 02:57:38,250
The sixth and fatal shot,
3696
02:57:38,333 --> 02:57:41,875
frame 313, takes Kennedy in the head
from the front.
3697
02:57:43,625 --> 02:57:45,708
- This is the key shot.
3698
02:57:45,792 --> 02:57:48,625
The president going back
and to his left,
3699
02:57:49,042 --> 02:57:51,042
shot from the front and right,
3700
02:57:52,042 --> 02:57:54,958
totally inconsistent with the shot
from the depository.
3701
02:57:55,042 --> 02:57:59,333
- Again, back and to the left.
3702
02:58:00,500 --> 02:58:02,792
Back... and to the left.
3703
02:58:03,958 --> 02:58:06,167
Back... and to the left.
3704
02:58:07,083 --> 02:58:09,625
Back... and to the left.
3705
02:58:11,333 --> 02:58:12,833
So what happens then?
3706
02:58:15,500 --> 02:58:16,875
Pandemonium.
3707
02:58:19,500 --> 02:58:21,875
- Get the hell out of here...
3708
02:58:26,875 --> 02:58:29,792
The shooters quickly disassemble their
various weapons,
3709
02:58:30,000 --> 02:58:32,000
all except the Oswald rifle.
3710
02:58:42,958 --> 02:58:46,917
Patrolman Joe Smith rushes into the
parking lot behind the picket fence.
3711
02:58:47,000 --> 02:58:48,208
- He smells gunpowder.
3712
02:58:48,292 --> 02:58:50,792
The character produced credentials
from his pocket
3713
02:58:50,875 --> 02:58:52,667
- that showed him to be Secret Service.
3714
02:58:53,417 --> 02:58:54,708
Let's see your ID.
3715
02:58:55,083 --> 02:58:56,583
- You see anybody else up here?
- No.
3716
02:58:56,667 --> 02:58:57,458
Keep looking!
3717
02:58:57,542 --> 02:58:59,167
So I accepted that,
and let him go
3718
02:58:59,250 --> 02:59:00,500
and continued to search.
3719
02:59:00,583 --> 02:59:03,583
But I regretted it, ‘cause this guy
looked like an auto mechanic.
3720
02:59:04,542 --> 02:59:06,833
He had on a sports shirt
and pants,
3721
02:59:06,917 --> 02:59:08,708
but he had dirty fingernails.
3722
02:59:10,375 --> 02:59:13,375
Afterwards it didn't ring true,
but at the time...
3723
02:59:13,458 --> 02:59:15,417
we were so pressed for time.
3724
02:59:16,417 --> 02:59:19,667
Yet all Secret Servicemen in Dallas
that day are accounted for.
3725
02:59:20,292 --> 02:59:23,125
None were on foot in Dealey Plaza before
or after the shooting,
3726
02:59:23,208 --> 02:59:27,542
till Dallas Secret Service Chief Forrest
Sorrels returned at 12:55.
3727
02:59:28,292 --> 02:59:31,917
At least 12 other individuals were taken
into custody by Dallas police.
3728
02:59:32,917 --> 02:59:34,500
No record of their arrests.
3729
02:59:34,708 --> 02:59:38,417
Men acting like hoboes were being
pulled off trains,
3730
02:59:38,500 --> 02:59:41,000
marched through Dealey Plaza,
photographed,
3731
02:59:41,083 --> 02:59:43,208
and yet there is no record
for their arrests.
3732
02:59:43,417 --> 02:59:45,917
Men identifying themselves as
Secret Service agents
3733
02:59:46,000 --> 02:59:47,542
were all over the place!
3734
02:59:48,083 --> 02:59:50,000
But who was impersonating them?
3735
02:59:50,417 --> 02:59:52,250
And where was
Lee Harvey Oswald?
3736
02:59:52,708 --> 02:59:54,167
Around 12:15,
3737
02:59:54,250 --> 02:59:56,542
on her way out of the building
to see the motorcade,
3738
02:59:56,625 --> 03:00:00,167
secretary Carolyn Arnold sees Oswald in
the second floor snack room,
3739
03:00:00,250 --> 03:00:02,625
where he said he went for a Coke.
3740
03:00:03,083 --> 03:00:05,875
He was in a booth on the right side
of the room.
3741
03:00:05,958 --> 03:00:06,708
Um...
3742
03:00:06,792 --> 03:00:08,458
He was by himself,
as usual,
3743
03:00:08,542 --> 03:00:10,458
and appeared
to be having his lunch.
3744
03:00:10,833 --> 03:00:13,667
I didn't speak to him, but I recognized
him clearly.
3745
03:00:14,167 --> 03:00:16,250
At the same time,
Bonnie Ray Williams
3746
03:00:16,333 --> 03:00:18,000
is supposedly eating
his chicken lunch
3747
03:00:18,083 --> 03:00:19,250
on the sixth floor.
3748
03:00:19,333 --> 03:00:22,375
He's there until 12:15,
maybe 12:20.
3749
03:00:23,000 --> 03:00:24,458
He sees nobody.
3750
03:00:25,083 --> 03:00:27,125
Arnold Rowland's down on the street,
he's looking up,
3751
03:00:27,208 --> 03:00:29,708
he sees two men
in the sixth floor window,
3752
03:00:29,958 --> 03:00:33,417
presumably after Bonnie Ray Williams
had finished his lunch and left.
3753
03:00:33,500 --> 03:00:34,833
- John Powell,
3754
03:00:34,917 --> 03:00:37,708
a prisoner on the sixth floor
of the Dallas county jail, sees them.
3755
03:00:37,792 --> 03:00:39,375
Quite a few of us guys saw them.
3756
03:00:39,458 --> 03:00:41,583
Everybody was hollering and yelling
and all that.
3757
03:00:41,667 --> 03:00:43,500
- We thought they was security guys.
3758
03:00:44,000 --> 03:00:45,458
If Oswald was the assassin,
3759
03:00:45,542 --> 03:00:48,917
he was certainly pretty nonchalant
about moving himself into position.
3760
03:00:49,292 --> 03:00:52,792
Later, he told Dallas police he was
in the second-floor snack room.
3761
03:00:53,125 --> 03:00:56,375
Probably told to wait there by his handler
for a phone call.
3762
03:00:58,083 --> 03:00:59,750
But the phone call never came.
3763
03:01:00,583 --> 03:01:03,167
A maximum 90 seconds after
Kennedy is shot,
3764
03:01:03,333 --> 03:01:05,417
patrolman Marrion Baker
runs into Oswald
3765
03:01:05,500 --> 03:01:06,792
in that second-floor
lunchroom.
3766
03:01:07,208 --> 03:01:08,333
Hey, you!
3767
03:01:08,750 --> 03:01:10,417
Do you know this man?
Is he an employee?
3768
03:01:10,542 --> 03:01:11,708
Yes, he is.
3769
03:01:11,792 --> 03:01:13,333
The president's been shot!
3770
03:01:13,500 --> 03:01:15,375
But what the Warren Commission
would have us believe
3771
03:01:15,458 --> 03:01:19,125
is that after firing three bolt-action
shots in 5.6 seconds,
3772
03:01:19,458 --> 03:01:23,500
Oswald then leaves three cartridges neatly
side by side in the firing nest,
3773
03:01:24,125 --> 03:01:25,958
wipes the rifle clear
of fingerprints,
3774
03:01:26,042 --> 03:01:29,167
stashes the rifle
on the other side of the loft,
3775
03:01:29,917 --> 03:01:32,083
sprints down five flights
of stairs,
3776
03:01:32,167 --> 03:01:34,542
past witnesses Victoria Adams
and Sandra Styles,
3777
03:01:34,625 --> 03:01:35,792
who never see him,
3778
03:01:36,625 --> 03:01:38,042
then shows up,
cool and calm,
3779
03:01:38,125 --> 03:01:40,458
on the second floor in front of
Patrolman Baker.
3780
03:01:42,417 --> 03:01:45,208
All this within a maximum of 90 seconds
of the shooting.
3781
03:01:45,292 --> 03:01:46,250
Hey, you!
3782
03:01:46,333 --> 03:01:48,375
Do you know this man?
Is he an employee?
3783
03:01:48,458 --> 03:01:50,667
Yes, he is.
The president's been shot!
3784
03:01:50,750 --> 03:01:52,083
Is he out of breath?
3785
03:01:52,750 --> 03:01:55,167
According to Baker,
absolutely not.
3786
03:01:55,833 --> 03:01:57,958
Assuming he is the
sole assassin,
3787
03:01:58,042 --> 03:02:01,000
Oswald is now free to escape from
the building.
3788
03:02:01,083 --> 03:02:05,375
The longer he delays, the more chance the
building will be sealed by police.
3789
03:02:06,375 --> 03:02:07,292
Is he guilty?
3790
03:02:07,375 --> 03:02:10,000
Does he walk out the nearest
staircase?
3791
03:02:10,708 --> 03:02:13,458
No, he buys a Coke.
3792
03:02:13,792 --> 03:02:15,708
And at a slow pace,
3793
03:02:15,792 --> 03:02:18,500
spotted by Mrs. Reid on
the second floor,
3794
03:02:18,583 --> 03:02:21,042
he strolls out the more distant
front exit,
3795
03:02:21,125 --> 03:02:22,833
- where the cops have gathered.
3796
03:02:22,917 --> 03:02:25,958
Oddly, considering that three shots have
been fired from there,
3797
03:02:26,042 --> 03:02:29,208
nobody seals the book depository for
10 more minutes.
3798
03:02:29,417 --> 03:02:32,250
Oswald slips out, as do several other
employees.
3799
03:02:32,667 --> 03:02:35,292
Of course, when he realized something
had gone wrong
3800
03:02:35,375 --> 03:02:36,833
and the president had been killed,
3801
03:02:37,250 --> 03:02:38,833
he knew there was a problem.
3802
03:02:39,583 --> 03:02:41,625
He may even have known
he was the patsy.
3803
03:02:41,708 --> 03:02:43,125
An intuition, maybe.
3804
03:02:43,208 --> 03:02:45,875
The president killed, in spite of
his warning.
3805
03:02:45,958 --> 03:02:47,875
The phone call that never came.
3806
03:02:47,958 --> 03:02:51,542
Perhaps, fear now came to Oswald
for the very first time.
3807
03:02:52,875 --> 03:02:56,167
So Oswald returns to his rooming
house around 1 p.m.,
3808
03:02:56,250 --> 03:02:58,542
- a half hour after the assassination.
3809
03:02:58,625 --> 03:03:00,708
- A man shot the president!
3810
03:03:00,792 --> 03:03:03,667
He puts on his jacket, grabs his
.38 revolver,
3811
03:03:03,833 --> 03:03:05,750
- and leaves at 1:04.
3812
03:03:06,292 --> 03:03:07,708
- Earlene Roberts, the housekeeper,
3813
03:03:07,792 --> 03:03:11,125
says she heard two beeps on a car horn,
that two uniformed cops
3814
03:03:11,208 --> 03:03:13,125
pulled up to the house
where Oswald was in his room,
3815
03:03:13,208 --> 03:03:14,917
like it was a signal
or something.
3816
03:03:15,875 --> 03:03:18,208
Officer Tippit is shot
between 1:10
3817
03:03:18,292 --> 03:03:20,458
and 1:15,
about a mile away.
3818
03:03:20,542 --> 03:03:23,167
And though no one actually saw him
walking or jogging,
3819
03:03:23,250 --> 03:03:26,000
the government says Oswald covered
that distance.
3820
03:03:26,083 --> 03:03:27,375
Now,
giving the government
3821
03:03:27,458 --> 03:03:28,667
- the benefit of the doubt,
- Sir?
3822
03:03:28,750 --> 03:03:30,167
- Excuse me, sir?
- Oswald would have had to jog
3823
03:03:30,250 --> 03:03:31,875
a mile in six to 11 minutes
3824
03:03:31,958 --> 03:03:33,375
- and then commit the murder,
3825
03:03:33,458 --> 03:03:34,792
then reverse his direction
3826
03:03:34,875 --> 03:03:37,792
and walk three-fifths of a mile to
the Texas Theatre
3827
03:03:37,875 --> 03:03:40,542
and arrive sometime
before 1:30.
3828
03:03:45,917 --> 03:03:48,583
It's also a useful conclusion,
after all.
3829
03:03:48,667 --> 03:03:50,375
Why else would Oswald
kill Tippit?
3830
03:03:50,458 --> 03:03:52,125
Unless he'd just shot
the president,
3831
03:03:52,208 --> 03:03:54,125
- and feared arrest?
3832
03:03:54,208 --> 03:03:55,458
Domingo Benavides,
3833
03:03:57,625 --> 03:03:59,375
- the closest witness to the shooting,
3834
03:03:59,833 --> 03:04:03,750
refused to identify Oswald as the killer
and was never taken to a lineup.
3835
03:04:05,208 --> 03:04:07,583
Acquilla Clemons saw the killer with
another man,
3836
03:04:07,792 --> 03:04:10,042
and says they went off in
separate directions.
3837
03:04:10,125 --> 03:04:13,917
Mrs. Clemons was never taken to a lineup
or to the Warren Commission.
3838
03:04:14,458 --> 03:04:15,542
At the scene of the crime,
3839
03:04:15,625 --> 03:04:18,458
Officer J. M. Poe marks the shells
with his initials
3840
03:04:18,542 --> 03:04:21,208
- to record the chain of evidence.
3841
03:04:21,375 --> 03:04:24,333
Those initials are not on the three
cartridge cases,
3842
03:04:24,417 --> 03:04:26,458
which the Warren Commission
present to him.
3843
03:04:26,875 --> 03:04:31,167
As early as 12:44, only 14 minutes
after the assassination,
3844
03:04:31,417 --> 03:04:34,583
the police radio put out a description
matching Oswald's size
3845
03:04:34,667 --> 03:04:36,125
- and build.
3846
03:04:36,208 --> 03:04:39,250
Oswald is next seen by a shoe salesman,
Johnny Brewer,
3847
03:04:39,333 --> 03:04:41,375
lurking along
Jefferson Avenue.
3848
03:04:41,917 --> 03:04:43,167
Oswald is scared.
3849
03:04:43,250 --> 03:04:46,375
He begins to realize the full
implications of this thing.
3850
03:04:46,750 --> 03:04:50,750
He goes into the Texas Theatre,
possibly his prearranged meeting point,
3851
03:04:50,833 --> 03:04:53,042
but though he has 14 dollars
in his pocket,
3852
03:04:53,375 --> 03:04:55,625
he does not buy the
75-cent ticket.
3853
03:04:55,750 --> 03:04:58,125
And Brewer has the cashier
call the police.
3854
03:04:58,208 --> 03:05:00,750
- In response to the cashier's call,
3855
03:05:00,833 --> 03:05:03,583
at least 30 officers in a fleet of
patrol cars
3856
03:05:03,667 --> 03:05:05,458
descend on the movie theater.
3857
03:05:05,583 --> 03:05:09,125
Now, this has to be the most remarkable
example of police intuition
3858
03:05:09,208 --> 03:05:11,125
- since the Reichstag fire.
3859
03:05:11,208 --> 03:05:14,458
- And I don't buy it. They knew.
3860
03:05:14,542 --> 03:05:17,000
Someone knew Oswald was
going to be there.
3861
03:05:18,208 --> 03:05:20,333
Brewer helpfully leads the cops
into the theater
3862
03:05:20,417 --> 03:05:22,708
and from the stage points
Oswald out.
3863
03:05:22,792 --> 03:05:23,667
There he is.
3864
03:05:35,958 --> 03:05:37,667
Sir, can I get you to stand up,
please?
3865
03:05:38,042 --> 03:05:39,625
- This is it!
3866
03:05:41,542 --> 03:05:43,250
Kill the president, will you?
3867
03:05:44,750 --> 03:05:46,833
I am not resisting arrest!
3868
03:05:47,083 --> 03:05:49,167
I am not resisting arrest!
3869
03:05:49,250 --> 03:05:51,000
The police have their man.
3870
03:05:51,542 --> 03:05:53,833
It's already been decided...
3871
03:05:53,917 --> 03:05:54,875
in Washington.
3872
03:05:55,375 --> 03:05:58,000
By the time he is brought out
from the theater,
3873
03:05:58,083 --> 03:06:00,375
a large crowd is waiting to scream
at him.
3874
03:06:00,708 --> 03:06:04,375
Lee Oswald must've felt like Josef K
in Kafka's The Trial.
3875
03:06:04,458 --> 03:06:06,875
He's never told the reasons
for his arrest,
3876
03:06:06,958 --> 03:06:10,167
he doesn't know the unseen forces
ranging against him.
3877
03:06:10,417 --> 03:06:12,542
By the time he reached police
headquarters,
3878
03:06:12,625 --> 03:06:14,375
he is booked for murdering
Tippit.
3879
03:06:14,500 --> 03:06:16,333
- No legal counsel is provided,
3880
03:06:16,417 --> 03:06:18,750
no record made of
the long questioning.
3881
03:06:18,833 --> 03:06:21,417
By the time the sun rises
the next morning,
3882
03:06:21,500 --> 03:06:23,792
he is booked for murdering
the president.
3883
03:06:24,208 --> 03:06:26,583
The whole country,
fueled by the media,
3884
03:06:26,667 --> 03:06:28,125
assumes he is guilty.
3885
03:06:28,958 --> 03:06:31,083
Under the guise of a patriotic
nightclub owner
3886
03:06:31,167 --> 03:06:35,125
out to spare Jackie Kennedy
from having to testify at a trial,
3887
03:06:35,208 --> 03:06:37,792
Jack Ruby is shown into an
underground garage
3888
03:06:37,875 --> 03:06:40,667
by one of his inside men on the
Dallas police force,
3889
03:06:41,583 --> 03:06:43,375
and when he is ready,
Lee Harvey Oswald
3890
03:06:43,458 --> 03:06:45,625
- is brought out like a sacrificial lamb
3891
03:06:45,708 --> 03:06:48,417
and nicely disposed of,
as an enemy of the people.
3892
03:06:48,542 --> 03:06:49,458
Oswald!
3893
03:07:07,375 --> 03:07:09,333
Who grieves
for Lee Harvey Oswald?
3894
03:07:10,250 --> 03:07:13,125
Buried in a cheap grave under
the name "Oswald"?
3895
03:07:14,375 --> 03:07:15,833
Nobody.
3896
03:07:22,917 --> 03:07:23,917
Within minutes,
3897
03:07:24,000 --> 03:07:27,917
false statements and press leaks about
Lee Oswald circulate the globe.
3898
03:07:28,833 --> 03:07:31,917
The Official Legend is created and
the media takes it from there.
3899
03:07:33,583 --> 03:07:35,750
The glitter of official lies
and the epic splendor
3900
03:07:35,833 --> 03:07:37,792
of the thought-numbing
funeral of JFK
3901
03:07:37,875 --> 03:07:41,083
confuse the eye and confound
the understanding.
3902
03:07:42,250 --> 03:07:44,208
Hitler always said...
3903
03:07:44,292 --> 03:07:47,667
"the bigger the lie,
the more people will believe it."
3904
03:07:49,000 --> 03:07:52,375
Lee Harvey Oswald, a crazed, lonely man
who wanted attention
3905
03:07:52,458 --> 03:07:55,250
and got it by killing a president,
was only the first
3906
03:07:55,333 --> 03:07:57,083
in a long line of patsies.
3907
03:07:57,833 --> 03:07:59,833
In later years,
Bobby Kennedy,
3908
03:07:59,917 --> 03:08:01,417
Martin Luther King,
men whose
3909
03:08:01,500 --> 03:08:03,500
commitment to change
and peace
3910
03:08:03,583 --> 03:08:07,083
would make them dangerous to men who
are committed to war, would follow,
3911
03:08:07,708 --> 03:08:10,583
also killed by such lonely,
crazed men,
3912
03:08:11,583 --> 03:08:14,042
men who remove our guilt
by making murder
3913
03:08:14,125 --> 03:08:15,958
a meaningless act of a loner.
3914
03:08:17,208 --> 03:08:19,167
We have all become Hamlets
in our country,
3915
03:08:19,250 --> 03:08:21,542
children of a slain
father-leader,
3916
03:08:21,625 --> 03:08:23,750
whose killers still possess
the throne.
3917
03:08:24,500 --> 03:08:28,208
The ghost of John F. Kennedy confronts us
with the secret murder
3918
03:08:28,292 --> 03:08:30,083
at the heart of
the American dream.
3919
03:08:30,708 --> 03:08:32,958
He forces on us the appalling
questions:
3920
03:08:33,042 --> 03:08:34,708
Of what is our Constitution
made?
3921
03:08:35,792 --> 03:08:38,250
What is our citizenship, and more,
our lives worth?
3922
03:08:38,333 --> 03:08:40,333
What is the future of
a democracy,
3923
03:08:40,417 --> 03:08:42,583
where a president can be
assassinated under
3924
03:08:42,667 --> 03:08:44,750
conspicuously suspicious
circumstances,
3925
03:08:44,833 --> 03:08:47,708
while the machinery of legal action
scarcely trembles?
3926
03:08:49,125 --> 03:08:52,667
How many more political murders,
disguised as heart attacks,
3927
03:08:52,750 --> 03:08:53,917
suicides,
3928
03:08:54,000 --> 03:08:55,542
cancers,
drug overdoses,
3929
03:08:55,625 --> 03:08:58,292
how many airplane
and car crashes will occur
3930
03:08:58,375 --> 03:09:00,583
before they are exposed for
what they are?
3931
03:09:02,583 --> 03:09:05,333
"Treason doth never prosper,”
wrote an English poet.
3932
03:09:06,417 --> 03:09:07,458
What's the reason?
3933
03:09:08,583 --> 03:09:10,750
Well, if it prosper,
none dare call it treason.
3934
03:09:12,083 --> 03:09:14,583
The American public has yet to see
the Zapruder film.
3935
03:09:15,583 --> 03:09:16,500
Why?
3936
03:09:17,208 --> 03:09:20,542
The American public has yet to see
the real X-rays and photographs
3937
03:09:20,625 --> 03:09:21,375
of the autopsy.
3938
03:09:21,458 --> 03:09:22,625
Why?
3939
03:09:23,458 --> 03:09:26,708
There are hundreds of documents that could
help prove this conspiracy.
3940
03:09:26,792 --> 03:09:29,667
Why are they being withheld or burned
by the government?
3941
03:09:30,917 --> 03:09:33,208
Each time my office, or you,
the people,
3942
03:09:33,292 --> 03:09:35,667
have asked those questions,
demanded crucial evidence,
3943
03:09:35,750 --> 03:09:37,958
the answer from on high
has always been
3944
03:09:38,042 --> 03:09:39,458
"national security.”
3945
03:09:40,667 --> 03:09:42,542
What kind of "national security”
do we have
3946
03:09:42,625 --> 03:09:44,375
when we have been robbed of our
leaders?
3947
03:09:45,333 --> 03:09:47,833
What "national security” permits
the removal
3948
03:09:47,917 --> 03:09:50,625
of fundamental power from the hands of
the American people
3949
03:09:50,708 --> 03:09:54,333
and validates the ascendancy of invisible
government in the United States?
3950
03:09:55,792 --> 03:09:57,208
That kind of "national security,"
3951
03:09:57,292 --> 03:09:59,250
gentlemen of the jury,
is when it smells like it,
3952
03:09:59,333 --> 03:10:01,250
feels like it, and looks like it,
3953
03:10:01,958 --> 03:10:03,500
you call it what it is.
3954
03:10:04,167 --> 03:10:05,417
Fascism.
3955
03:10:07,667 --> 03:10:09,875
I submit to you that what
took place
3956
03:10:09,958 --> 03:10:12,667
on November 22nd, 1963
3957
03:10:12,750 --> 03:10:14,000
was a coup d'état.
3958
03:10:15,167 --> 03:10:17,625
Its most direct
and tragic result
3959
03:10:17,708 --> 03:10:21,542
was a reversal of President Kennedy's
commitment to withdraw from Vietnam.
3960
03:10:23,000 --> 03:10:28,042
A war is the biggest business in America,
worth 80 billion dollars a year.
3961
03:10:28,917 --> 03:10:31,708
President Kennedy was murdered
by a conspiracy
3962
03:10:31,792 --> 03:10:34,833
that was planned in advance at
the highest levels of our government,
3963
03:10:34,917 --> 03:10:38,583
and it was carried out by fanatical
and disciplined Cold Warriors
3964
03:10:38,667 --> 03:10:42,125
in the Pentagon and CIA's covert
operations apparatus,
3965
03:10:42,208 --> 03:10:44,833
among them
Clay Shaw here before you.
3966
03:10:45,625 --> 03:10:47,458
It was a public execution.
3967
03:10:47,542 --> 03:10:50,292
And it was covered up by
like-minded individuals
3968
03:10:50,375 --> 03:10:51,958
in the Dallas Police
Department,
3969
03:10:52,042 --> 03:10:54,125
the Secret Service,
the FBI,
3970
03:10:54,208 --> 03:10:56,208
- and the White House, all the way up to
3971
03:10:56,292 --> 03:10:59,583
including J. Edgar Hoover and
Lyndon Johnson,
3972
03:10:59,667 --> 03:11:02,042
whom I consider accomplices
after the fact.
3973
03:11:02,708 --> 03:11:06,750
The assassination reduced the president
to a transient official.
3974
03:11:07,292 --> 03:11:08,917
His job,
his assignment,
3975
03:11:09,000 --> 03:11:13,208
is to speak as often as possible of
this nation's desire for peace
3976
03:11:13,292 --> 03:11:15,958
while he acts as a business agent in
the Congress
3977
03:11:16,042 --> 03:11:18,417
for the military and their hardware
manufacturers.
3978
03:11:20,458 --> 03:11:22,500
Now, some people say
I'm crazy.
3979
03:11:24,167 --> 03:11:27,333
Southern caricature seeking
higher office.
3980
03:11:29,208 --> 03:11:32,708
Well, there is a simple way to determine
if I am paranoid.
3981
03:11:32,792 --> 03:11:35,375
Let's ask the two men who have profited
the most from the assassination:
3982
03:11:35,458 --> 03:11:37,625
your former president,
Lyndon Baines Johnson,
3983
03:11:37,708 --> 03:11:39,583
and your new president,
Richard Nixon,
3984
03:11:39,667 --> 03:11:41,750
to release the 51 CIA documents
3985
03:11:41,833 --> 03:11:44,333
pertaining to Lee Harvey Oswald
and Jack Ruby.
3986
03:11:45,208 --> 03:11:46,958
Or the secret CIA memo
3987
03:11:47,042 --> 03:11:49,667
on Oswald's activities in Russia
that was destroyed
3988
03:11:49,750 --> 03:11:51,042
while being photocopied.
3989
03:11:51,583 --> 03:11:53,500
All these documents are yours,
3990
03:11:54,083 --> 03:11:56,333
the people's property.
You pay for it.
3991
03:11:57,417 --> 03:12:00,667
But because the government considers you
children who might be too disturbed
3992
03:12:00,750 --> 03:12:02,667
or distressed to face this reality,
3993
03:12:03,458 --> 03:12:06,250
or because you might possibly
lynch those involved,
3994
03:12:07,167 --> 03:12:10,333
you cannot see these documents for
another 75 years.
3995
03:12:11,292 --> 03:12:13,333
I'm in my early 40s,
3996
03:12:14,167 --> 03:12:17,208
so I'll have shuffled off this
mortal coil by then,
3997
03:12:17,292 --> 03:12:19,792
but I'm already telling my
eight-year-old son
3998
03:12:19,875 --> 03:12:21,750
to keep himself
physically fit,
3999
03:12:22,500 --> 03:12:24,833
so that one glorious
September morning
4000
03:12:24,917 --> 03:12:26,500
in the year 2038,
4001
03:12:26,583 --> 03:12:28,667
he can walk into
the National Archives
4002
03:12:28,750 --> 03:12:31,833
and find out what the CIA
and the FBI knew!
4003
03:12:33,125 --> 03:12:34,542
They may even push it back,
then.
4004
03:12:34,625 --> 03:12:36,833
Hell, it may become a
generational affair,
4005
03:12:36,917 --> 03:12:39,250
with questions passed down
father to son,
4006
03:12:39,333 --> 03:12:40,458
mother to daughter.
4007
03:12:40,542 --> 03:12:42,458
That someday, somewhere
4008
03:12:42,542 --> 03:12:44,667
someone may find out
the damn truth.
4009
03:12:45,417 --> 03:12:46,542
We better.
4010
03:12:47,708 --> 03:12:50,167
We better, or we might,
just as well, build ourselves
4011
03:12:50,250 --> 03:12:51,833
another government...
4012
03:12:51,917 --> 03:12:54,208
like the Declaration
of Independence says to,
4013
03:12:54,292 --> 03:12:56,292
when the old one ain't
working, just--
4014
03:12:56,375 --> 03:12:58,250
just a little farther out West.
4015
03:12:59,917 --> 03:13:01,917
An American naturalist wrote:
4016
03:13:02,250 --> 03:13:05,250
"A patriot must always be ready to
defend his country...
4017
03:13:05,708 --> 03:13:07,042
against its government."
4018
03:13:09,208 --> 03:13:11,000
I would hate to be in your shoes
today.
4019
03:13:12,083 --> 03:13:13,167
You have a lot to think about.
4020
03:13:13,250 --> 03:13:16,417
You've seen much hidden evidence
the American public has never seen.
4021
03:13:17,958 --> 03:13:20,167
You know, going back to when
we were children,
4022
03:13:21,250 --> 03:13:23,833
I think that most of us in this courtroom
thought that
4023
03:13:23,917 --> 03:13:26,125
justice came into being
automatically,
4024
03:13:27,125 --> 03:13:28,875
that virtue was its own reward,
that--
4025
03:13:28,958 --> 03:13:30,750
that good would triumph
over evil.
4026
03:13:32,417 --> 03:13:35,083
But as we get older, we know this
just isn't true.
4027
03:13:36,167 --> 03:13:38,875
Individual human beings have to
create justice,
4028
03:13:38,958 --> 03:13:40,417
and this is not easy...
4029
03:13:41,708 --> 03:13:44,667
because the truth often poses
a threat to power,
4030
03:13:45,292 --> 03:13:48,500
and one often has to fight power at
great risk to themselves.
4031
03:13:49,000 --> 03:13:50,792
People like S. M. Holland,
4032
03:13:51,500 --> 03:13:52,708
Lee Bowers,
4033
03:13:53,333 --> 03:13:55,208
Jean Hill,
Willie O'Keefe.
4034
03:13:55,292 --> 03:13:57,708
They've all taken that risk.
They've all come forward.
4035
03:13:59,000 --> 03:14:02,375
I have here some 8,000 dollars in
these letters sent--
4036
03:14:02,458 --> 03:14:04,750
sent to my office from all over
the country.
4037
03:14:05,250 --> 03:14:08,500
Quarters, dimes, dollar bills from
housewives,
4038
03:14:08,583 --> 03:14:11,417
plumbers, car salesmen, teachers,
invalids.
4039
03:14:12,625 --> 03:14:16,042
These are people who cannot afford
to send money but do.
4040
03:14:16,875 --> 03:14:18,917
These are the ones
who drive the cabs,
4041
03:14:19,542 --> 03:14:20,833
who nurse in the hospitals,
4042
03:14:20,917 --> 03:14:23,458
who see their kids go
to Vietnam.
4043
03:14:24,917 --> 03:14:25,750
Why?
4044
03:14:27,417 --> 03:14:28,708
Because they care.
4045
03:14:29,833 --> 03:14:31,750
Because they want to know
the truth.
4046
03:14:32,792 --> 03:14:34,750
Because they
want their country back.
4047
03:14:34,833 --> 03:14:36,833
Because it still belongs
to us,
4048
03:14:37,417 --> 03:14:40,458
as long as the people have the guts to
fight for what they believe in.
4049
03:14:43,792 --> 03:14:46,083
The truth is the most important
value we have
4050
03:14:46,167 --> 03:14:48,167
because if the truth
does not endure,
4051
03:14:49,292 --> 03:14:51,000
if the government murders truth,
if it--
4052
03:14:51,083 --> 03:14:54,083
if we cannot respect the hearts of
these people, then this is
4053
03:14:54,167 --> 03:14:56,708
not the country in which I was born in,
and it is certainly not
4054
03:14:56,792 --> 03:14:58,250
the country that I want
to die in.
4055
03:15:00,125 --> 03:15:01,542
Tennyson wrote:
4056
03:15:01,625 --> 03:15:03,583
"Authority forgets a dying king."
4057
03:15:05,625 --> 03:15:08,042
This was never more true than for
John F. Kennedy,
4058
03:15:08,125 --> 03:15:12,042
whose murder was probably
one of the most terrible moments...
4059
03:15:12,125 --> 03:15:13,667
in the history of our country.
4060
03:15:16,875 --> 03:15:20,542
You the people, the jury system,
sitting in judgement on Clay Shaw,
4061
03:15:22,625 --> 03:15:24,375
represent the hope...
4062
03:15:24,458 --> 03:15:26,958
of humanity
against government power.
4063
03:15:28,250 --> 03:15:30,083
In discharging your duty,
4064
03:15:30,792 --> 03:15:32,417
in bringing the first conviction
4065
03:15:32,500 --> 03:15:34,292
in this house of cards
4066
03:15:34,375 --> 03:15:36,000
against Clay Shaw,
4067
03:15:36,708 --> 03:15:40,708
"Ask not what your country can do for you,
but what you can do for your country.”
4068
03:15:41,917 --> 03:15:43,292
Do not forget...
4069
03:15:44,167 --> 03:15:45,708
your dying king.
4070
03:15:47,417 --> 03:15:48,750
Show this world...
4071
03:15:49,542 --> 03:15:52,750
that this is still a government of
the people, for the people,
4072
03:15:53,292 --> 03:15:54,542
and by the people.
4073
03:15:56,875 --> 03:15:58,833
Nothing,
as long as you live,
4074
03:15:58,917 --> 03:16:00,583
will ever be more important.
4075
03:16:04,167 --> 03:16:05,583
It's up to you.
4076
03:16:28,625 --> 03:16:30,750
Has the jury reached a verdict?
4077
03:16:31,417 --> 03:16:32,708
Yes, we have, Your Honor.
4078
03:16:32,792 --> 03:16:35,042
Please hand the verdict to the clerk.
4079
03:16:44,792 --> 03:16:47,250
Will the defendant please rise?
4080
03:16:51,208 --> 03:16:53,375
The clerk will now read
the verdict.
4081
03:16:54,208 --> 03:16:58,250
New Orleans, Louisiana.
March 1st, 1969.
4082
03:16:58,917 --> 03:17:02,375
We, the jury, find the defendant,
Clay Shaw,
4083
03:17:02,458 --> 03:17:04,125
not guilty.
4084
03:17:10,250 --> 03:17:11,625
- Thank you, thank you.
- Wonderful.
4085
03:17:14,167 --> 03:17:15,458
Congratulations!
4086
03:17:15,583 --> 03:17:17,125
We're gonna go fishing
tomorrow!
4087
03:17:25,583 --> 03:17:27,042
We believe there was a conspiracy,
4088
03:17:27,125 --> 03:17:30,333
but whether Clay Shaw was a part of it
is another kettle of fish.
4089
03:17:30,417 --> 03:17:31,958
There's Jim! There's Jim!
4090
03:17:33,792 --> 03:17:36,375
Mr. Garrison, the American media
is reporting this
4091
03:17:36,458 --> 03:17:38,292
as a full vindication of the Warren
Commission.
4092
03:17:38,375 --> 03:17:39,667
Do you agree?
4093
03:17:40,958 --> 03:17:44,250
All I think it proves is you cannot
run an investigation,
4094
03:17:44,333 --> 03:17:47,792
in the light of day, even questioning
the intelligence operations
4095
03:17:47,875 --> 03:17:49,000
of the United States
government.
4096
03:17:49,083 --> 03:17:50,458
We understand that
the morning paper
4097
03:17:50,542 --> 03:17:52,917
will call for your resignation,
that you're unfit to hold office,
4098
03:17:53,000 --> 03:17:54,875
that you've ruined
Clay Shaw's reputation.
4099
03:17:54,958 --> 03:17:56,667
Mr. Garrison,
are you gonna resign?
4100
03:17:56,750 --> 03:17:57,667
Hell, no.
4101
03:17:57,750 --> 03:17:58,958
I'm gonna run again.
4102
03:17:59,417 --> 03:18:00,958
And I'm gonna win,
thank you.
4103
03:18:01,042 --> 03:18:03,000
Who do you plan to
persecute next, Mr. Garrison?
4104
03:18:03,083 --> 03:18:05,667
If it takes me 30 years to nail
every one of the assassins,
4105
03:18:05,750 --> 03:18:08,750
then I will continue this
investigation for 30 years.
4106
03:18:09,375 --> 03:18:12,333
I owe that not only to Jack Kennedy,
but to the country.
4107
03:18:12,417 --> 03:18:14,750
- Hey, there's Clay! There's Clay Shaw!
4108
03:18:14,833 --> 03:18:16,875
Mr. Shaw, how does it feel to be
acquitted?
4109
03:18:16,958 --> 03:18:18,792
It's been exhausting,
I must say.
4110
03:18:18,875 --> 03:18:20,167
What will you do now,
Mr. Shaw?
4111
03:18:20,250 --> 03:18:22,167
I should go home and cook
some étouffée.
4112
03:18:26,833 --> 03:18:28,792
Do you think Garrison
will be back for a second round?
4113
03:18:28,875 --> 03:18:30,042
I'm sure he will.
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