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- The night sky and
the lure of space
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have always pulled on
the human imagination,
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but exploration did
not really take place
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until the mid 1900s.
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But then it happened fast.
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- We choose to go to the moon
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in this decade and
do the other things.
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Not because they are easy,
but because they are hard.
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- Early space exploration,
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it was both competitive
and collaborative,
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but the media really
focused on the competition,
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that was, these heightened
political tensions,
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and an extension
of the Cold War.
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- [TV Announcer] Reaction
was one of astonishment
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and concern.
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- On Sputnik 1 Soviet
space satellite.
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- Research in space,
improved life on Earth
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from the very beginning
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and today the
International Space Station
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is a symbol of
global collaboration.
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- The amount of money
spent on the space program
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is worth every penny.
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I think there are things we
get from the space program
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that are valuable to
our life on Earth.
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- I'm Cray Novick.
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- And I'm Myrna James.
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It's time to go
Behind the Wings.
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- [Cray] In this episode, we're
gonna explore the question.
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How did human space flight start
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and how is it
effecting us today?
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To start, we headed to NASA's
Center for Human Flight,
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Johnson Space Center.
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To talk with NASA historian,
Jennifer Ross-Nazzal.
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How did Johnson Space
Center first get started?
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- In 1958, NASA was created.
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- This is my first
opportunity to greet you
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as Deputy Administrator of the
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National Aeronautics and
Space Administration.
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- It was created as a response
to the launch of Sputnik.
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- [TV Announcer] Today,
our new moon is in the sky,
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a 23 inch metal sphere placed
in orbit by a Russian rocket.
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- The first orbiting
satellite around the globe
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and Congress was very
interested in establishing
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an organization to put a
human being into space.
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And there was a
group established
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called the Space Task Group.
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It was established about a month
after NASA came into being.
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Its purpose really was
to put a man into space.
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It was a manned
satellite program.
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It became known as
Project Mercury.
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- [TV Announcer] Project
Mercury is the name given
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to the nation's manned
orbital space flight program.
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- They were based out of
the Langley Research Center
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but that group formed the
nucleus of what would become
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the manned spacecraft
center here in Houston.
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Once Kennedy gave his
speech in May of 1961,
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that we were going to
land a man on the moon
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by the end of the decade
and return him safely.
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They realized they needed
an actual facility,
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an actual center just
for human space flight.
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Before that time human
space flight was seen
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as sort of as a
passing fad, a fancy.
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The deputy director
for NASA at that time,
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likened it to shooting
a lady out of a cannon.
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And so it was sort of fortuitous
that Kennedy proclaimed
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that we were going to
achieve this amazing goal
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by the end of the decade.
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- I believe that this
nation should commit itself
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to achieving the goal
before this decade is out,
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of landing a man on the moon
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and returning him
safely to the Earth.
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- And so they started looking
around at other locations
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all across the country and
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Houston was one of
those locations.
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So it was built essentially to
get us to that final end date
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of landing a man on
the moon by 1969.
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The individual who was in
charge of the Space Task Group
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at the time, heard that
announcement and wondered,
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my God how are we gonna
accomplish all of this?
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And he had to figure out
how they were going to make
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all of this work in a very
short time, in about nine years.
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So that really was, you
know, a huge challenge,
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but NASA had been
actually studying
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how are we going to get
to the moon prior to this?
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It just, you know,
increased the pace.
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NASA was trying to figure
that out well before
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President Kennedy
made this announcement
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on the floor of Congress.
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- Now it is time to
take longer strides,
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time for a great new
American enterprise,
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time for this nation to
take a clearly leading role
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in space achievement,
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which in many ways may hold
the key to our future on Earth.
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- [Jennifer] It was definitely
a proxy war for the cold war.
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You look at the
Kennedy administration,
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they had the, the
Cuban missile crisis.
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some other missteps
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early on in the administration.
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And, and you know,
this was an opportunity
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for him to take something
and, and get a win.
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You know, how could he
beat the Soviet Union?
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And this was something
that they realized
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we might be on more even
ground with the Soviet Union.
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Sending a man to the moon
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and returning him at the,
the end of the decade.
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- [Myrna] Man's giant leap,
Apollo 11 lands crew on moon.
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The first Wright brothers
flight was in 1903
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and then it was only
66 years later when
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Neil Armstrong walked
on the moon in 1969.
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- [Cray] A lot happened
in those 66 years.
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The NACA or the National
Advisory Committee
for Aeronautics
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had been around since 1915
and people had already
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been thinking about
human space flight.
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- These astronauts had
to learn everything,
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every aspect of going to space.
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From rocket propulsion
to orbital mechanics,
to what happens
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to the human body when
they go to space. Right?
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- So, how did the
first astronauts
prepare to go to space,
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somewhere where no
one had been before?
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- Astronauts train a lot, and
so do folks in flight control.
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There's the saying that
you, you train as you fly,
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you fly as you train. In
those early Mercury flights,
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they did a lot of training cause
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they weren't exactly
sure what to expect.
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They put them through centrifuge
rides up in Pennsylvania.
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They put them on the KC-135
which was a weightless aircraft.
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They did a lot of simulations
of their missions,
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what they were going
to be doing in orbit.
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Same thing with
Gemini and Apollo,
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they were working through
all of those missions
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and working through
all of the requirements
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for their flight.
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They didn't just
get into the capsule
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and go up in orbit and kind
of see how things worked.
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There was a lot going on,
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behind the scenes before
anyone ever went up.
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- NASA has spent a lot of time
and throughout its history
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of going into
remote environments
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and what they call
analog environments.
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So to put astronauts
or scientists
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in extreme environments
all over the world.
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We know the ones, for example,
like Antarctica is a classic.
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Back in the days of
Gemini, Mercury and Apollo,
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there was an interest in going
into remote jungle areas.
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So then the Air Force
had a training program,
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in tropical survival,
down in Panama.
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And so NASA contracted
with the Air Force to
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bring the astronauts like
Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin,
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and Michael Collins into
that survival program.
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They went into the territory
of a tribe down there called
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the Embera, which was and
still is a remote jungle area.
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- [Jennifer] And so
they went down to Panama
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at the Albrook Air Force Base
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and they were working with
the, the Choco Indians.
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So they were natives
of, of that area.
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This was a really great
cross-cultural exchange
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for astronauts and also for
the natives in, in Panama.
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The idea basically behind
tropic survival school was
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first of all, to
learn how to survive.
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If God forbid your
capsule came down
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in a jungle environment,
how would you handle that?
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(somber music)
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- We're in Panama
where it all started.
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The first NASA astronauts
to walk on the moon
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were trained here
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for wilderness survival
by the indigenous people,
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just in case.
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(upbeat music)
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- [Myrna] We've driven about
an hour outside of Panama city.
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And we're about to get into
a dugout canoe a the motor.
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And that's the only way
to get to his village.
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We'll interview
Chief Zarco there.
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(boat engine idling)
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(speaking spanish)
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(boat engine running)
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(drums beating) (wind
instrument playing)
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Chief Zarco, tell me
about your grandfather.
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(drums beating)
(people chanting)
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- People who were being
trained to go to the moon
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and go into space,
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acknowledged what they
could learn from you
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and from your culture.
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Chief Zarco, what were
some of the things
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that the astronauts
learned here?
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- Why is this area such an
ideal place to train astronauts?
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- You know, they, they had
a lot of cross-cultural
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interaction with
the Choco Indians.
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Worked very closely
with the chief,
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Antonio Zarco and you
know, encouraged them to
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get to know the folks as,
as part of their training,
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so that they would
feel comfortable.
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And when they came back,
they did a debriefing
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and talked about, well,
what did you learn?
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And you know, they learned
that the jungle isn't as scary
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as they thought it was.
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The most important thing I
think that they walked away with
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was the fact that,
it was important
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to have this optimistic
point of view
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when you went on a mission.
That you weren't going to die,
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if you landed in the
jungle or desert,
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because they did desert
survival training.
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You know, it was important
to do the training
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but to have optimism
that you were
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going to make it out okay.
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- Some of the astronauts
who trained in Panama,
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actually were the ones
who walked on the moon.
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- [Neil Armstrong] OK. I'm
gonna step off the LEM now.
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That's one small step for man.
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One giant leap for mankind.
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- The Earth as it
appears from the moon
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is a very small
and fragile object.
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And when you think
about it that's not a
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inaccurate description.
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Certainly a lot of the
things that we do down here
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can affect the, the balance
in a very fragile way.
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The, the greenhouse effect we're
noticing today, for example
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the changes between
a healthy atmosphere
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and an unhealthy atmosphere
are, are very subtle,
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very, very fragile and you
sort of get that feeling
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when you look at the at the
Earth from a great distance.
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- Seeing the Earth from
space can cause a significant
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psychological impact
called the overview effect.
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To learn more we spoke with
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cultural anthropologist
Dr. Deana Weibel.
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- Deana, it's so great
to speak with you today.
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What is the overview effect?
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- So the overview effect is a
term that was actually coined
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by a journalist Frank White,
who is also a researcher.
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When people go into
space for the first time
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and look from their
spacecraft to the Earth,
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the awareness that
it's actually a planet
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suddenly the borders
are not real anymore.
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You see that they're imaginary.
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You see that everything
is interconnected.
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You see the Earth as
much more fragile.
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And a lot of astronauts have
had this experience where
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it was like a
sudden realization.
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Something that caused
them to rethink
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what it meant to
live on a planet.
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Rethink things like
environmental awareness.
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Some astronauts have become
really, really strongly focused
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on getting information out
about global climate change
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and other things we need to
do to protect the planet.
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- Steve Lindsey, I'm so excited
to speak with you today.
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And I almost don't
know where to start.
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You've had such an
illustrious, amazing career.
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- I, I applied and was
fortunate enough to get selected
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in 1995 to the NASA astronaut
office, as an astronaut,
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as a pilot astronaut.
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So I spent 16 years at
NASA and while I was there
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I was fortunate enough,
or blessed to fly
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five space shuttle missions.
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Two as pilot, three
as a commander.
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- That's amazing.
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- Yeah, I was very fortunate.
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My final flight was the actually
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the final flight of Discovery.
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The trip in a space shuttle,
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- [NASA Control] Go for main
engine start. (sparks sound)
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- being on the
launchpad to orbit,
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(fast violin music)
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is eight and a
half minutes long.
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- [NASA Control] We have main
engine start. (ignition noise)
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- Most eight and a half
minutes of intensity,
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you'll ever experience
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- [Announcer] Two, one,
(rocket engines roaring)
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and the final lift
off of Discovery,
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a tribute to the
dedication, hard work
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and pride of America's
space shuttle team.
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- [Announcer] Discovery's
three main engines
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are burning fuel at a
rate that would drain
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an average swimming pool
in about 25 seconds.
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The engines combined with
the solid rocket boosters
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produce more than 7
million pounds of thrust.
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Standing by for separation
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of the twin solid
rocket boosters.
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Discovery now traveling
2,695 miles an hour.
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- [Myrna] I'm picturing
this extremely fast speed
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that you're going.
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And it makes me think
of the overview effect.
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So what was that like?
Did that happen for you?
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- I first saw the Earth
on my first flight.
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We were during assent.
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We were probably 50-60
miles high doing about
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I don't know, Mach 12
or so during assent.
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So the rockets are firing
and we actually did this
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what's called a
roll to heads up,
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to shift from ground
stations for communications,
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to satellite communications
during assent.
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And I was in the pilot seat
of course, pretty busy,
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but when we did the
roll, rolled underneath
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and I got my first
view of the Earth.
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When you see Earth
from up there,
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it does change perspective.
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I think it changes
your perspective on
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how small the planet is.
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It changes almost
everybody's perspective
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from an environmental
standpoint.
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(somber music)
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- Yeah, I remember
one of the first times
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I looked out the
window from space
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and I said to one of
my crew mates, I said,
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what's that, what's that
thin film over the surface?
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What is that?
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They go, oh, that's
the atmosphere
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almost looks like a contact
lens over somebody's eye,
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how thin and fragile
it is compared to the,
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you know, the size
of the planet.
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Which is kind of
scary looking because
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it's, you know the
most important thing
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to our survival
is our atmosphere.
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I think, makes you more
kind of in tune with,
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you know, environmental causes.
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I remember the rainforest in
south America looked different
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on my first flight than it
did on my last 17 years later.
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And then when you look
at the planet, you know,
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you don't see political
borders during the daytime.
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You do at night a little bit,
you know, countries, you know
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sometimes use different
kind of light bulbs.
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So it's easy to tell.
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I'm on the International
Space Station,
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but we're really
all on a spaceship,
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traveling through space
called planet Earth.
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And we're all part
of the same team.
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- I know that you were on the
International Space Station
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for basically a year.
How did that come about?
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- Yeah, I was there
for nearly a year.
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We launched in the March of
2015, landed in March of 2016.
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It's one of the
greatest successes
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of the International
Space Station program,
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is that you can have two
countries that, you know,
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historically can
be at, you know,
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not on the most friendly
basis, unfortunately.
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You can work
cooperatively on something
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that's probably the most
challenging thing we do
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and demonstrate that we can
work peacefully together
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as a team and space is a
perfect place to do that.
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And for us, you know, our
relationships as crew members
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we have to rely on each
other for, you know,
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friendship or help
with our work.
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And literally at times
for each other's lives.
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- Out of that
competitive atmosphere,
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that defined early
space exploration
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came a whole new vision
for collaboration.
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And then the International
Space Station,
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and so many countries
are involved.
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- The International
Space Station, it's,
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it's truly that international,
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you have 258 astronauts
that have been there
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from 20 different countries.
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And then when it comes to the
countries involved in the ISS,
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I mean, this is gonna test my
geography more than anything
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but we've got the U.S.,
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we've got this big one.
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- Right, Russia, here.
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- Russia.
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- Enormous.
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- You know, we
had, we had Canada.
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Canada's up there.
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- We have Japan right here.
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- Japan. Yep.
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- JAXA's very involved with
these with space activities.
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- And then, I mean, you have
the European Space Agency,
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which is gonna make up
a lot of the countries,
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Belgium, Denmark,
France, Germany, Italy,
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the Netherlands,
Norway, Spain, Sweden,
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Switzerland, and the UK.
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- The International Space
Station is just that,
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it's truly international.
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It's almost like in space,
where borders don't exist.
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- The idea was that
this would be a good way
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for NASA to get
experience working
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on an International
Space Station.
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That was the goal to have
our own space station.
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We had our first
space station Skylab,
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but this was going to
be a little different.
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So this was an
opportunity for astronauts
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to get some experience working
onboard a space station,
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you know kind of this
building block for, for NASA.
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The international aspect
of the space station
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has been so vitally important.
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That's probably the
most important legacy
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that space station will have.
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Many of the pieces of
hardware, for instance,
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never met on the ground.
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First time they met
was up in space.
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And so just working
together, I think it's,
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it's so vitally important.
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We may not be able to
do it on the ground
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but in space we've been able
to do it so successfully.
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- Hi, this is Steve Lindsey,
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Commander of the Space Shuttle
Discovery. Welcome aboard.
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- You know, when you
look at the space station
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and the international
partnership
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and 16 nations up there
working together all the time,
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that all gets blurred.
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And we're, we're generally
speaking one team up there.
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If you would've told me when
I was a pilot in the Cold War,
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that within 10 years I'd
be flying with Russians.
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- [Myrna] Yeah.
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- [Steve] I would've
told you, you were crazy.
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- [Myrna] Yeah.
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- [Steve] But that changed.
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- Right now, the plan
is to to de-orbit
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the space station
around 2030, right.
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And eventually you're
gonna have to do that.
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I mean, things age,
they age in space.
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You go out on a space
walk on the space station,
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it's surprising just how
beat up it is outside.
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And the sun is just brutal.
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The changes of
temperatures of, you know,
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plus or minus 270 degrees.
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Thing gets hit on the outside.
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There's a lot of
holes on the outside.
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Fortunately, you know,
so far those holes
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haven't penetrated the
pressurized volume.
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But there is a lot
of damage to this.
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So eventually you're gonna
have to put it in the,
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in the Pacific Ocean.
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- One of the most
important things that came
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from that experience
was the twin studies.
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Cause you have an
identical twin brother.
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Who's also an astronaut.
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- Yeah. Because my brother
and I were identical twins,
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we're genetically very, very
similar, almost like, you know
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99.9% genetically similar,
that they felt like
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that they could get
some good science data.
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- So the NASA twin study,
the idea was born to try
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and get more genetic information
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and more molecular information
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and other types
from people in space
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for longer periods of time.
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That's a little bit
complicated to do.
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So what they thought was,
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if we're gonna use a very
small number of people
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that they should be twins.
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That would allow us the ability
to study one twin in space
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and the other twin on Earth.
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Doing that would allow
us to better understand
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the differences that weren't
related to genetics. Right?
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Because they should have a
fairly similar genetic profile.
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- For something to be
statistically significant.
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You need a lot of samples.
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- Right.
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- And this is kind
of a sample of one.
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Having said that, it's
also a longitudinal study.
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So you can get statistically
significant data
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by studying the same thing
over a long period of time.
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Meaning Mark and I.
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- So the goal was then to
study them for one year
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and Scott Kelly was the
astronaut who was in space.
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And so both of the Kelly
brothers gave enormous amount
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of time, willingness,
blood samples,
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every kind of
tissue we could get,
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psychological testing,
physiologic testing,
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over that entire year period.
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And so at the time it
was really the longest
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and most comprehensive
scientific study
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that had been done
to that point.
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- So that became part
of the science program
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and it got the most attention,
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more attention than
the other science
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which was actually
probably more important
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but just didn't have
that kind of like
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cache human interest cache that,
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- Right.
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- [Scott] That a story
about two twin brothers
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doing a science experiment
on the space station has.
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- Give us some, a few nuggets,
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of the results of
the twin studies.
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- Well, there were
a lot of experiments
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and you know I didn't
give these experiments
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any more attention
or less attention
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than I did everything
else that we were doing.
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To the researchers, all
of 'em, their, their,
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their science is
the most important.
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And during the
course of that year
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we had 400 different
experiments going on,
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the year I was on
the space station.
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- That's incredible.
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- Yeah. So this
was, I don't know,
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it was probably 10 or
15 different studies.
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You know, some of them
were on human cognition.
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Like how does your brain change
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over the course of being
in space from, you know,
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your ability to perform
certain tasks and functions?
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What we would do is, you
know, I would collect data
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or most, mostly it was
like science samples,
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but there were tests
that I would do.
492
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,600
And then my brother would do
the same ones on the ground.
493
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,800
And I'll tell you what
you gotta give him credit,
494
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,233
cause he didn't
even work for NASA.
495
00:23:59,233 --> 00:24:00,700
I think they were gonna pay him.
496
00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:03,266
But it was like so little that
he said, eh, don't bother.
497
00:24:03,266 --> 00:24:07,566
I don't wanna deal with the
tax headache from being paid,
498
00:24:07,566 --> 00:24:10,633
you know, it's a
really small amount.
499
00:24:10,633 --> 00:24:13,800
- So why is space
exploration so important?
500
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,533
- You know, I think
it's important for
a number of reasons.
501
00:24:15,533 --> 00:24:18,966
We are, you know,
genetically speaking,
502
00:24:18,966 --> 00:24:20,266
I think explorers. Right?
503
00:24:20,266 --> 00:24:23,433
If we, if we didn't
have that gene,
504
00:24:23,433 --> 00:24:25,700
we would still be living
in a cave somewhere.
505
00:24:25,700 --> 00:24:28,533
We have this desire to
see what's, you know,
506
00:24:28,533 --> 00:24:31,100
over the horizon,
what's over the ocean,
507
00:24:31,100 --> 00:24:33,900
you know, what's in outer space.
508
00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:37,400
And what it gives to our
society, to our economy,
509
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,233
to our national security,
is worth every penny.
510
00:24:41,233 --> 00:24:45,366
- If you look at at history,
that's what human beings do.
511
00:24:45,366 --> 00:24:47,400
We've, we've always explored.
512
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,600
Well before
Christopher Columbus,
513
00:24:51,733 --> 00:24:53,500
you know well
before the Vikings,
514
00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:55,800
that's just something
that that human beings do.
515
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,933
And I think that's
just a continuation
and an extension of,
516
00:24:58,933 --> 00:25:02,500
of what we've done in the
past and will continue to do.
517
00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:04,233
And it's extremely important.
518
00:25:04,233 --> 00:25:07,233
It's extremely vital, beneficial
to the American public,
519
00:25:07,233 --> 00:25:08,666
to the globe.
520
00:25:08,666 --> 00:25:11,033
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521
00:25:11,033 --> 00:25:13,000
As space exploration
transitioned
522
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,200
to becoming more collaborative,
523
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,266
it set the stage for
how it can benefit life
524
00:25:17,266 --> 00:25:18,766
right here on Earth.
525
00:25:18,766 --> 00:25:21,633
But it's not just about going
outwards, going to the moon.
526
00:25:21,633 --> 00:25:23,600
It's also about
looking back at Earth.
527
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,733
What can we learn about
our own blue planet?
528
00:25:26,733 --> 00:25:28,700
- Looking back at
the Earth from space
529
00:25:28,700 --> 00:25:31,733
gives us a whole new
perspective on our planet.
530
00:25:31,733 --> 00:25:32,966
- And that's what
we're gonna look at
531
00:25:32,966 --> 00:25:34,966
in the next episode
of Behind the Wings...
532
00:25:34,966 --> 00:25:37,700
satellites and their sensors.
Exploring the question -
533
00:25:37,700 --> 00:25:39,500
what can we learn
about the Earth
534
00:25:39,500 --> 00:25:41,333
by looking back from space?
535
00:25:41,333 --> 00:25:44,400
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