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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:01,100 (upbeat music) 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,566 - The night sky and the lure of space 3 00:00:08,566 --> 00:00:11,133 have always pulled on the human imagination, 4 00:00:11,133 --> 00:00:13,333 but exploration did not really take place 5 00:00:13,333 --> 00:00:15,066 until the mid 1900s. 6 00:00:15,066 --> 00:00:16,966 But then it happened fast. 7 00:00:16,966 --> 00:00:18,500 - We choose to go to the moon 8 00:00:18,500 --> 00:00:21,300 in this decade and do the other things. 9 00:00:21,300 --> 00:00:25,033 Not because they are easy, but because they are hard. 10 00:00:25,033 --> 00:00:26,200 - Early space exploration, 11 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:28,133 it was both competitive and collaborative, 12 00:00:28,133 --> 00:00:31,000 but the media really focused on the competition, 13 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,366 that was, these heightened political tensions, 14 00:00:33,366 --> 00:00:35,033 and an extension of the Cold War. 15 00:00:35,033 --> 00:00:36,733 - [TV Announcer] Reaction was one of astonishment 16 00:00:36,733 --> 00:00:37,933 and concern. 17 00:00:37,933 --> 00:00:40,266 - On Sputnik 1 Soviet space satellite. 18 00:00:40,266 --> 00:00:42,466 - Research in space, improved life on Earth 19 00:00:42,466 --> 00:00:43,800 from the very beginning 20 00:00:43,800 --> 00:00:45,900 and today the International Space Station 21 00:00:45,900 --> 00:00:48,733 is a symbol of global collaboration. 22 00:00:48,733 --> 00:00:51,200 - The amount of money spent on the space program 23 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:52,733 is worth every penny. 24 00:00:52,733 --> 00:00:55,433 I think there are things we get from the space program 25 00:00:55,433 --> 00:00:58,333 that are valuable to our life on Earth. 26 00:00:58,333 --> 00:00:59,633 - I'm Cray Novick. 27 00:00:59,633 --> 00:01:01,033 - And I'm Myrna James. 28 00:01:01,033 --> 00:01:03,833 It's time to go Behind the Wings. 29 00:01:06,733 --> 00:01:09,200 - [Cray] In this episode, we're gonna explore the question. 30 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,566 How did human space flight start 31 00:01:11,566 --> 00:01:13,233 and how is it effecting us today? 32 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,700 To start, we headed to NASA's Center for Human Flight, 33 00:01:17,700 --> 00:01:19,200 Johnson Space Center. 34 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,700 To talk with NASA historian, Jennifer Ross-Nazzal. 35 00:01:22,700 --> 00:01:25,300 How did Johnson Space Center first get started? 36 00:01:25,300 --> 00:01:28,966 - In 1958, NASA was created. 37 00:01:28,966 --> 00:01:31,200 - This is my first opportunity to greet you 38 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,933 as Deputy Administrator of the 39 00:01:33,933 --> 00:01:37,133 National Aeronautics and Space Administration. 40 00:01:37,133 --> 00:01:40,966 - It was created as a response to the launch of Sputnik. 41 00:01:40,966 --> 00:01:43,200 (suspenseful music) 42 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:44,766 - [TV Announcer] Today, our new moon is in the sky, 43 00:01:44,766 --> 00:01:48,866 a 23 inch metal sphere placed in orbit by a Russian rocket. 44 00:01:48,866 --> 00:01:52,533 - The first orbiting satellite around the globe 45 00:01:52,533 --> 00:01:55,566 and Congress was very interested in establishing 46 00:01:55,566 --> 00:02:00,000 an organization to put a human being into space. 47 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,666 And there was a group established 48 00:02:02,666 --> 00:02:04,133 called the Space Task Group. 49 00:02:04,133 --> 00:02:08,866 It was established about a month after NASA came into being. 50 00:02:08,866 --> 00:02:12,300 Its purpose really was to put a man into space. 51 00:02:12,300 --> 00:02:13,866 It was a manned satellite program. 52 00:02:13,866 --> 00:02:16,000 It became known as Project Mercury. 53 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:17,966 - [TV Announcer] Project Mercury is the name given 54 00:02:17,966 --> 00:02:20,700 to the nation's manned orbital space flight program. 55 00:02:20,700 --> 00:02:22,666 - They were based out of the Langley Research Center 56 00:02:22,666 --> 00:02:26,333 but that group formed the nucleus of what would become 57 00:02:26,333 --> 00:02:29,700 the manned spacecraft center here in Houston. 58 00:02:29,700 --> 00:02:33,633 Once Kennedy gave his speech in May of 1961, 59 00:02:33,633 --> 00:02:35,566 that we were going to land a man on the moon 60 00:02:35,566 --> 00:02:38,033 by the end of the decade and return him safely. 61 00:02:38,033 --> 00:02:41,433 They realized they needed an actual facility, 62 00:02:41,433 --> 00:02:44,266 an actual center just for human space flight. 63 00:02:44,266 --> 00:02:46,900 Before that time human space flight was seen 64 00:02:46,900 --> 00:02:49,533 as sort of as a passing fad, a fancy. 65 00:02:49,533 --> 00:02:53,133 The deputy director for NASA at that time, 66 00:02:53,133 --> 00:02:56,333 likened it to shooting a lady out of a cannon. 67 00:02:56,333 --> 00:02:59,933 And so it was sort of fortuitous that Kennedy proclaimed 68 00:02:59,933 --> 00:03:02,766 that we were going to achieve this amazing goal 69 00:03:02,766 --> 00:03:04,200 by the end of the decade. 70 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,033 - I believe that this nation should commit itself 71 00:03:07,033 --> 00:03:10,633 to achieving the goal before this decade is out, 72 00:03:10,633 --> 00:03:12,400 of landing a man on the moon 73 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,900 and returning him safely to the Earth. 74 00:03:14,900 --> 00:03:17,900 - And so they started looking around at other locations 75 00:03:17,900 --> 00:03:20,600 all across the country and 76 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,600 Houston was one of those locations. 77 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:27,400 So it was built essentially to get us to that final end date 78 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,000 of landing a man on the moon by 1969. 79 00:03:32,033 --> 00:03:34,566 The individual who was in charge of the Space Task Group 80 00:03:34,566 --> 00:03:37,200 at the time, heard that announcement and wondered, 81 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,033 my God how are we gonna accomplish all of this? 82 00:03:40,033 --> 00:03:43,466 And he had to figure out how they were going to make 83 00:03:43,466 --> 00:03:47,333 all of this work in a very short time, in about nine years. 84 00:03:47,333 --> 00:03:50,600 So that really was, you know, a huge challenge, 85 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,866 but NASA had been actually studying 86 00:03:53,866 --> 00:03:56,700 how are we going to get to the moon prior to this? 87 00:03:56,700 --> 00:04:00,066 It just, you know, increased the pace. 88 00:04:00,066 --> 00:04:02,666 NASA was trying to figure that out well before 89 00:04:02,666 --> 00:04:05,000 President Kennedy made this announcement 90 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,266 on the floor of Congress. 91 00:04:06,266 --> 00:04:09,500 - Now it is time to take longer strides, 92 00:04:09,500 --> 00:04:11,700 time for a great new American enterprise, 93 00:04:13,100 --> 00:04:16,866 time for this nation to take a clearly leading role 94 00:04:16,866 --> 00:04:18,600 in space achievement, 95 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:22,633 which in many ways may hold the key to our future on Earth. 96 00:04:22,633 --> 00:04:25,300 - [Jennifer] It was definitely a proxy war for the cold war. 97 00:04:25,300 --> 00:04:27,533 You look at the Kennedy administration, 98 00:04:27,533 --> 00:04:30,833 they had the, the Cuban missile crisis. 99 00:04:30,833 --> 00:04:33,566 They also had, you know, some other missteps 100 00:04:33,566 --> 00:04:35,233 early on in the administration. 101 00:04:35,233 --> 00:04:38,066 And, and you know, this was an opportunity 102 00:04:38,066 --> 00:04:41,200 for him to take something and, and get a win. 103 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,733 You know, how could he beat the Soviet Union? 104 00:04:43,733 --> 00:04:45,633 And this was something that they realized 105 00:04:45,633 --> 00:04:49,400 we might be on more even ground with the Soviet Union. 106 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:50,866 Sending a man to the moon 107 00:04:50,866 --> 00:04:53,400 and returning him at the, the end of the decade. 108 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,833 - [Myrna] Man's giant leap, Apollo 11 lands crew on moon. 109 00:04:56,833 --> 00:04:59,933 The first Wright brothers flight was in 1903 110 00:04:59,933 --> 00:05:03,000 and then it was only 66 years later when 111 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:07,400 Neil Armstrong walked on the moon in 1969. 112 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:09,500 - [Cray] A lot happened in those 66 years. 113 00:05:09,500 --> 00:05:13,433 The NACA or the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics 114 00:05:13,433 --> 00:05:16,833 had been around since 1915 and people had already 115 00:05:16,833 --> 00:05:18,933 been thinking about human space flight. 116 00:05:18,933 --> 00:05:20,966 - These astronauts had to learn everything, 117 00:05:20,966 --> 00:05:22,700 every aspect of going to space. 118 00:05:22,700 --> 00:05:27,100 From rocket propulsion to orbital mechanics, to what happens 119 00:05:27,100 --> 00:05:29,366 to the human body when they go to space. Right? 120 00:05:29,366 --> 00:05:33,566 - So, how did the first astronauts prepare to go to space, 121 00:05:33,566 --> 00:05:36,500 somewhere where no one had been before? 122 00:05:36,500 --> 00:05:40,933 - Astronauts train a lot, and so do folks in flight control. 123 00:05:40,933 --> 00:05:43,966 There's the saying that you, you train as you fly, 124 00:05:43,966 --> 00:05:47,066 you fly as you train. In those early Mercury flights, 125 00:05:47,066 --> 00:05:48,833 they did a lot of training cause 126 00:05:48,833 --> 00:05:51,966 they weren't exactly sure what to expect. 127 00:05:51,966 --> 00:05:55,400 They put them through centrifuge rides up in Pennsylvania. 128 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,500 They put them on the KC-135 which was a weightless aircraft. 129 00:05:59,500 --> 00:06:02,066 They did a lot of simulations of their missions, 130 00:06:02,066 --> 00:06:05,533 what they were going to be doing in orbit. 131 00:06:05,533 --> 00:06:07,366 Same thing with Gemini and Apollo, 132 00:06:07,366 --> 00:06:10,266 they were working through all of those missions 133 00:06:10,266 --> 00:06:12,600 and working through all of the requirements 134 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:13,800 for their flight. 135 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,400 They didn't just get into the capsule 136 00:06:15,400 --> 00:06:17,733 and go up in orbit and kind of see how things worked. 137 00:06:17,733 --> 00:06:19,500 There was a lot going on, 138 00:06:19,500 --> 00:06:22,100 behind the scenes before anyone ever went up. 139 00:06:23,700 --> 00:06:26,166 - NASA has spent a lot of time and throughout its history 140 00:06:26,166 --> 00:06:27,866 of going into remote environments 141 00:06:27,866 --> 00:06:29,966 and what they call analog environments. 142 00:06:29,966 --> 00:06:32,700 So to put astronauts or scientists 143 00:06:32,700 --> 00:06:34,466 in extreme environments all over the world. 144 00:06:34,466 --> 00:06:38,466 We know the ones, for example, like Antarctica is a classic. 145 00:06:38,466 --> 00:06:41,600 Back in the days of Gemini, Mercury and Apollo, 146 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,500 there was an interest in going into remote jungle areas. 147 00:06:45,500 --> 00:06:47,933 So then the Air Force had a training program, 148 00:06:47,933 --> 00:06:50,566 in tropical survival, down in Panama. 149 00:06:50,566 --> 00:06:53,733 And so NASA contracted with the Air Force to 150 00:06:53,733 --> 00:06:58,100 bring the astronauts like Neil Armstrong, Buzz Aldrin, 151 00:06:58,100 --> 00:07:00,900 and Michael Collins into that survival program. 152 00:07:00,900 --> 00:07:03,866 They went into the territory of a tribe down there called 153 00:07:03,866 --> 00:07:08,066 the Embera, which was and still is a remote jungle area. 154 00:07:08,066 --> 00:07:10,700 - [Jennifer] And so they went down to Panama 155 00:07:10,700 --> 00:07:12,900 at the Albrook Air Force Base 156 00:07:12,900 --> 00:07:15,200 and they were working with the, the Choco Indians. 157 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,600 So they were natives of, of that area. 158 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,566 This was a really great cross-cultural exchange 159 00:07:20,566 --> 00:07:25,033 for astronauts and also for the natives in, in Panama. 160 00:07:26,500 --> 00:07:29,766 The idea basically behind tropic survival school was 161 00:07:29,766 --> 00:07:33,000 first of all, to learn how to survive. 162 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:36,500 If God forbid your capsule came down 163 00:07:36,500 --> 00:07:39,766 in a jungle environment, how would you handle that? 164 00:07:39,766 --> 00:07:42,366 (somber music) 165 00:07:43,900 --> 00:07:46,333 - We're in Panama where it all started. 166 00:07:46,333 --> 00:07:48,833 The first NASA astronauts to walk on the moon 167 00:07:48,833 --> 00:07:50,333 were trained here 168 00:07:50,333 --> 00:07:52,533 for wilderness survival by the indigenous people, 169 00:07:52,533 --> 00:07:53,833 just in case. 170 00:07:53,833 --> 00:07:56,700 (upbeat music) 171 00:07:56,700 --> 00:07:58,766 - [Myrna] We've driven about an hour outside of Panama city. 172 00:07:58,766 --> 00:08:01,766 And we're about to get into a dugout canoe a the motor. 173 00:08:01,766 --> 00:08:04,566 And that's the only way to get to his village. 174 00:08:04,566 --> 00:08:06,600 We'll interview Chief Zarco there. 175 00:08:08,466 --> 00:08:12,066 (boat engine idling) 176 00:08:12,066 --> 00:08:13,933 (speaking spanish) 177 00:08:13,933 --> 00:08:17,100 (boat engine running) 178 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:25,000 (drums beating) (wind instrument playing) 179 00:08:32,700 --> 00:08:34,800 Chief Zarco, tell me about your grandfather. 180 00:09:02,633 --> 00:09:07,633 (drums beating) (people chanting) 181 00:09:16,500 --> 00:09:19,200 - People who were being trained to go to the moon 182 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,800 and go into space, 183 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,233 acknowledged what they could learn from you 184 00:09:23,233 --> 00:09:25,233 and from your culture. 185 00:09:25,233 --> 00:09:27,200 Chief Zarco, what were some of the things 186 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:28,900 that the astronauts learned here? 187 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:14,400 - Why is this area such an ideal place to train astronauts? 188 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,233 - You know, they, they had a lot of cross-cultural 189 00:11:13,233 --> 00:11:15,533 interaction with the Choco Indians. 190 00:11:15,533 --> 00:11:17,533 Worked very closely with the chief, 191 00:11:17,533 --> 00:11:22,533 Antonio Zarco and you know, encouraged them to 192 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,800 get to know the folks as, as part of their training, 193 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:29,900 so that they would feel comfortable. 194 00:11:29,900 --> 00:11:32,000 And when they came back, they did a debriefing 195 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,266 and talked about, well, what did you learn? 196 00:11:34,266 --> 00:11:37,833 And you know, they learned that the jungle isn't as scary 197 00:11:37,833 --> 00:11:39,733 as they thought it was. 198 00:11:39,733 --> 00:11:42,300 The most important thing I think that they walked away with 199 00:11:42,300 --> 00:11:45,033 was the fact that, it was important 200 00:11:45,033 --> 00:11:46,633 to have this optimistic point of view 201 00:11:46,633 --> 00:11:50,300 when you went on a mission. That you weren't going to die, 202 00:11:50,300 --> 00:11:52,600 if you landed in the jungle or desert, 203 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,400 because they did desert survival training. 204 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,833 You know, it was important to do the training 205 00:11:56,833 --> 00:11:58,800 but to have optimism that you were 206 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,133 going to make it out okay. 207 00:12:01,133 --> 00:12:03,800 - Some of the astronauts who trained in Panama, 208 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,266 actually were the ones who walked on the moon. 209 00:12:07,733 --> 00:12:10,166 - [Neil Armstrong] OK. I'm gonna step off the LEM now. 210 00:12:10,166 --> 00:12:12,533 That's one small step for man. 211 00:12:14,933 --> 00:12:17,666 One giant leap for mankind. 212 00:12:21,266 --> 00:12:23,666 - The Earth as it appears from the moon 213 00:12:23,666 --> 00:12:26,966 is a very small and fragile object. 214 00:12:28,366 --> 00:12:30,600 And when you think about it that's not a 215 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,100 inaccurate description. 216 00:12:33,566 --> 00:12:36,900 Certainly a lot of the things that we do down here 217 00:12:36,900 --> 00:12:41,900 can affect the, the balance in a very fragile way. 218 00:12:43,300 --> 00:12:47,333 The, the greenhouse effect we're noticing today, for example 219 00:12:48,733 --> 00:12:51,633 the changes between a healthy atmosphere 220 00:12:51,633 --> 00:12:53,966 and an unhealthy atmosphere are, are very subtle, 221 00:12:53,966 --> 00:12:57,466 very, very fragile and you sort of get that feeling 222 00:12:57,466 --> 00:13:00,833 when you look at the at the Earth from a great distance. 223 00:13:00,833 --> 00:13:03,833 - Seeing the Earth from space can cause a significant 224 00:13:03,833 --> 00:13:07,633 psychological impact called the overview effect. 225 00:13:07,633 --> 00:13:09,266 To learn more we spoke with 226 00:13:09,266 --> 00:13:13,366 cultural anthropologist Dr. Deana Weibel. 227 00:13:13,366 --> 00:13:15,333 - Deana, it's so great to speak with you today. 228 00:13:15,333 --> 00:13:17,033 What is the overview effect? 229 00:13:17,033 --> 00:13:20,500 - So the overview effect is a term that was actually coined 230 00:13:20,500 --> 00:13:24,166 by a journalist Frank White, who is also a researcher. 231 00:13:24,166 --> 00:13:27,100 When people go into space for the first time 232 00:13:27,100 --> 00:13:30,600 and look from their spacecraft to the Earth, 233 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:34,200 the awareness that it's actually a planet 234 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,733 suddenly the borders are not real anymore. 235 00:13:36,733 --> 00:13:38,800 You see that they're imaginary. 236 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,800 You see that everything is interconnected. 237 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,400 You see the Earth as much more fragile. 238 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:48,100 And a lot of astronauts have had this experience where 239 00:13:48,100 --> 00:13:50,833 it was like a sudden realization. 240 00:13:50,833 --> 00:13:54,666 Something that caused them to rethink 241 00:13:54,666 --> 00:13:56,566 what it meant to live on a planet. 242 00:13:56,566 --> 00:13:59,866 Rethink things like environmental awareness. 243 00:13:59,866 --> 00:14:03,433 Some astronauts have become really, really strongly focused 244 00:14:03,433 --> 00:14:07,233 on getting information out about global climate change 245 00:14:07,233 --> 00:14:10,266 and other things we need to do to protect the planet. 246 00:14:11,666 --> 00:14:15,166 - Steve Lindsey, I'm so excited to speak with you today. 247 00:14:15,166 --> 00:14:17,066 And I almost don't know where to start. 248 00:14:17,066 --> 00:14:19,633 You've had such an illustrious, amazing career. 249 00:14:19,633 --> 00:14:22,566 - I, I applied and was fortunate enough to get selected 250 00:14:22,566 --> 00:14:26,000 in 1995 to the NASA astronaut office, as an astronaut, 251 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:27,466 as a pilot astronaut. 252 00:14:27,466 --> 00:14:30,800 So I spent 16 years at NASA and while I was there 253 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,866 I was fortunate enough, or blessed to fly 254 00:14:34,866 --> 00:14:36,066 five space shuttle missions. 255 00:14:36,066 --> 00:14:38,033 Two as pilot, three as a commander. 256 00:14:38,033 --> 00:14:38,966 - That's amazing. 257 00:14:38,966 --> 00:14:40,200 - Yeah, I was very fortunate. 258 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,100 My final flight was the actually 259 00:14:42,100 --> 00:14:43,833 the final flight of Discovery. 260 00:14:43,833 --> 00:14:45,500 The trip in a space shuttle, 261 00:14:45,500 --> 00:14:47,400 - [NASA Control] Go for main engine start. (sparks sound) 262 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:48,700 - being on the launchpad to orbit, 263 00:14:48,700 --> 00:14:50,400 (fast violin music) 264 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,266 is eight and a half minutes long. 265 00:14:52,266 --> 00:14:53,500 - [NASA Control] We have main engine start. (ignition noise) 266 00:14:53,500 --> 00:14:55,633 - Most eight and a half minutes of intensity, 267 00:14:55,633 --> 00:14:56,900 you'll ever experience 268 00:14:56,900 --> 00:14:58,866 - [Announcer] Two, one, (rocket engines roaring) 269 00:14:58,866 --> 00:15:01,266 and the final lift off of Discovery, 270 00:15:01,266 --> 00:15:03,500 a tribute to the dedication, hard work 271 00:15:03,500 --> 00:15:06,433 and pride of America's space shuttle team. 272 00:15:06,433 --> 00:15:07,700 - [Announcer] Discovery's three main engines 273 00:15:07,700 --> 00:15:08,900 are burning fuel at a rate that would drain 274 00:15:08,900 --> 00:15:11,300 an average swimming pool in about 25 seconds. 275 00:15:12,766 --> 00:15:14,700 The engines combined with the solid rocket boosters 276 00:15:14,700 --> 00:15:17,133 produce more than 7 million pounds of thrust. 277 00:15:18,066 --> 00:15:19,300 Standing by for separation 278 00:15:19,300 --> 00:15:20,666 of the twin solid rocket boosters. 279 00:15:20,666 --> 00:15:23,900 Discovery now traveling 2,695 miles an hour. 280 00:15:25,633 --> 00:15:28,133 - [Myrna] I'm picturing this extremely fast speed 281 00:15:28,133 --> 00:15:29,366 that you're going. 282 00:15:29,366 --> 00:15:31,466 And it makes me think of the overview effect. 283 00:15:31,466 --> 00:15:35,133 So what was that like? Did that happen for you? 284 00:15:35,133 --> 00:15:37,066 - I first saw the Earth on my first flight. 285 00:15:37,066 --> 00:15:39,100 We were during assent. 286 00:15:39,100 --> 00:15:42,900 We were probably 50-60 miles high doing about 287 00:15:42,900 --> 00:15:45,900 I don't know, Mach 12 or so during assent. 288 00:15:45,900 --> 00:15:48,400 So the rockets are firing and we actually did this 289 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,366 what's called a roll to heads up, 290 00:15:50,366 --> 00:15:52,800 to shift from ground stations for communications, 291 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,200 to satellite communications during assent. 292 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,766 And I was in the pilot seat of course, pretty busy, 293 00:15:57,766 --> 00:16:01,333 but when we did the roll, rolled underneath 294 00:16:01,333 --> 00:16:03,300 and I got my first view of the Earth. 295 00:16:03,300 --> 00:16:05,100 When you see Earth from up there, 296 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:08,000 it does change perspective. 297 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,433 I think it changes your perspective on 298 00:16:11,366 --> 00:16:13,033 how small the planet is. 299 00:16:13,033 --> 00:16:15,133 It changes almost everybody's perspective 300 00:16:15,133 --> 00:16:17,066 from an environmental standpoint. 301 00:16:17,066 --> 00:16:18,266 (somber music) 302 00:16:18,266 --> 00:16:19,500 - Yeah, I remember one of the first times 303 00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:21,300 I looked out the window from space 304 00:16:21,300 --> 00:16:23,466 and I said to one of my crew mates, I said, 305 00:16:23,466 --> 00:16:26,200 what's that, what's that thin film over the surface? 306 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:27,366 What is that? 307 00:16:27,366 --> 00:16:29,833 They go, oh, that's the atmosphere 308 00:16:29,833 --> 00:16:32,166 almost looks like a contact lens over somebody's eye, 309 00:16:32,166 --> 00:16:34,700 how thin and fragile it is compared to the, 310 00:16:34,700 --> 00:16:36,333 you know, the size of the planet. 311 00:16:36,333 --> 00:16:38,766 Which is kind of scary looking because 312 00:16:38,766 --> 00:16:41,466 it's, you know the most important thing 313 00:16:41,466 --> 00:16:44,300 to our survival is our atmosphere. 314 00:16:44,300 --> 00:16:46,866 I think, makes you more kind of in tune with, 315 00:16:46,866 --> 00:16:48,733 you know, environmental causes. 316 00:16:48,733 --> 00:16:51,333 I remember the rainforest in south America looked different 317 00:16:51,333 --> 00:16:54,766 on my first flight than it did on my last 17 years later. 318 00:16:54,766 --> 00:16:56,333 And then when you look at the planet, you know, 319 00:16:56,333 --> 00:16:59,033 you don't see political borders during the daytime. 320 00:16:59,033 --> 00:17:01,766 You do at night a little bit, you know, countries, you know 321 00:17:01,766 --> 00:17:03,800 sometimes use different kind of light bulbs. 322 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:05,600 So it's easy to tell. 323 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,166 I'm on the International Space Station, 324 00:17:07,166 --> 00:17:09,400 but we're really all on a spaceship, 325 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,033 traveling through space called planet Earth. 326 00:17:12,033 --> 00:17:13,833 And we're all part of the same team. 327 00:17:13,833 --> 00:17:16,533 - I know that you were on the International Space Station 328 00:17:16,533 --> 00:17:19,333 for basically a year. How did that come about? 329 00:17:19,333 --> 00:17:20,833 - Yeah, I was there for nearly a year. 330 00:17:20,833 --> 00:17:25,700 We launched in the March of 2015, landed in March of 2016. 331 00:17:26,866 --> 00:17:28,100 It's one of the greatest successes 332 00:17:28,100 --> 00:17:29,600 of the International Space Station program, 333 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,100 is that you can have two countries that, you know, 334 00:17:33,100 --> 00:17:36,466 historically can be at, you know, 335 00:17:36,466 --> 00:17:41,000 not on the most friendly basis, unfortunately. 336 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,300 You can work cooperatively on something 337 00:17:43,300 --> 00:17:46,500 that's probably the most challenging thing we do 338 00:17:46,500 --> 00:17:49,400 and demonstrate that we can work peacefully together 339 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,300 as a team and space is a perfect place to do that. 340 00:17:52,300 --> 00:17:55,500 And for us, you know, our relationships as crew members 341 00:17:55,500 --> 00:17:58,500 we have to rely on each other for, you know, 342 00:17:58,500 --> 00:18:00,600 friendship or help with our work. 343 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:05,266 And literally at times for each other's lives. 344 00:18:05,266 --> 00:18:07,033 - Out of that competitive atmosphere, 345 00:18:07,033 --> 00:18:09,933 that defined early space exploration 346 00:18:09,933 --> 00:18:12,766 came a whole new vision for collaboration. 347 00:18:12,766 --> 00:18:14,833 And then the International Space Station, 348 00:18:14,833 --> 00:18:17,000 and so many countries are involved. 349 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,200 - The International Space Station, it's, 350 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:20,800 it's truly that international, 351 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:25,500 you have 258 astronauts that have been there 352 00:18:25,500 --> 00:18:27,833 from 20 different countries. 353 00:18:27,833 --> 00:18:31,300 And then when it comes to the countries involved in the ISS, 354 00:18:31,300 --> 00:18:34,033 I mean, this is gonna test my geography more than anything 355 00:18:34,033 --> 00:18:35,366 but we've got the U.S., 356 00:18:38,700 --> 00:18:40,200 we've got this big one. 357 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:41,566 - Right, Russia, here. 358 00:18:41,566 --> 00:18:42,400 - Russia. 359 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:43,633 - Enormous. 360 00:18:43,633 --> 00:18:45,933 - You know, we had, we had Canada. 361 00:18:47,100 --> 00:18:48,700 Canada's up there. 362 00:18:48,700 --> 00:18:49,900 - We have Japan right here. 363 00:18:49,900 --> 00:18:51,433 - Japan. Yep. 364 00:18:51,433 --> 00:18:54,100 - JAXA's very involved with these with space activities. 365 00:18:54,100 --> 00:18:56,533 - And then, I mean, you have the European Space Agency, 366 00:18:56,533 --> 00:18:58,933 which is gonna make up a lot of the countries, 367 00:18:58,933 --> 00:19:01,900 Belgium, Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, 368 00:19:01,900 --> 00:19:05,033 the Netherlands, Norway, Spain, Sweden, 369 00:19:05,033 --> 00:19:07,300 Switzerland, and the UK. 370 00:19:07,300 --> 00:19:09,800 - The International Space Station is just that, 371 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,000 it's truly international. 372 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,000 It's almost like in space, where borders don't exist. 373 00:19:16,633 --> 00:19:18,866 - The idea was that this would be a good way 374 00:19:18,866 --> 00:19:20,700 for NASA to get experience working 375 00:19:20,700 --> 00:19:22,566 on an International Space Station. 376 00:19:22,566 --> 00:19:25,333 That was the goal to have our own space station. 377 00:19:25,333 --> 00:19:28,200 We had our first space station Skylab, 378 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:29,833 but this was going to be a little different. 379 00:19:29,833 --> 00:19:32,833 So this was an opportunity for astronauts 380 00:19:32,833 --> 00:19:36,500 to get some experience working onboard a space station, 381 00:19:36,500 --> 00:19:39,700 you know kind of this building block for, for NASA. 382 00:19:39,700 --> 00:19:41,833 The international aspect of the space station 383 00:19:41,833 --> 00:19:44,400 has been so vitally important. 384 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,866 That's probably the most important legacy 385 00:19:46,866 --> 00:19:48,600 that space station will have. 386 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,833 Many of the pieces of hardware, for instance, 387 00:19:50,833 --> 00:19:52,400 never met on the ground. 388 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,266 First time they met was up in space. 389 00:19:55,266 --> 00:19:57,633 And so just working together, I think it's, 390 00:19:57,633 --> 00:19:59,066 it's so vitally important. 391 00:19:59,066 --> 00:20:02,000 We may not be able to do it on the ground 392 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,866 but in space we've been able to do it so successfully. 393 00:20:04,866 --> 00:20:06,733 - Hi, this is Steve Lindsey, 394 00:20:06,733 --> 00:20:09,233 Commander of the Space Shuttle Discovery. Welcome aboard. 395 00:20:09,233 --> 00:20:10,400 - You know, when you look at the space station 396 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:11,866 and the international partnership 397 00:20:11,866 --> 00:20:14,733 and 16 nations up there working together all the time, 398 00:20:14,733 --> 00:20:16,233 that all gets blurred. 399 00:20:16,233 --> 00:20:19,800 And we're, we're generally speaking one team up there. 400 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,700 If you would've told me when I was a pilot in the Cold War, 401 00:20:22,700 --> 00:20:25,900 that within 10 years I'd be flying with Russians. 402 00:20:25,900 --> 00:20:27,333 - [Myrna] Yeah. 403 00:20:27,333 --> 00:20:28,000 - [Steve] I would've told you, you were crazy. 404 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:28,933 - [Myrna] Yeah. 405 00:20:28,933 --> 00:20:30,566 - [Steve] But that changed. 406 00:20:30,566 --> 00:20:33,166 - Right now, the plan is to to de-orbit 407 00:20:33,166 --> 00:20:36,366 the space station around 2030, right. 408 00:20:36,366 --> 00:20:37,800 And eventually you're gonna have to do that. 409 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,233 I mean, things age, they age in space. 410 00:20:40,233 --> 00:20:42,233 You go out on a space walk on the space station, 411 00:20:42,233 --> 00:20:44,900 it's surprising just how beat up it is outside. 412 00:20:44,900 --> 00:20:46,266 And the sun is just brutal. 413 00:20:46,266 --> 00:20:48,866 The changes of temperatures of, you know, 414 00:20:48,866 --> 00:20:51,066 plus or minus 270 degrees. 415 00:20:51,066 --> 00:20:52,400 Thing gets hit on the outside. 416 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,333 There's a lot of holes on the outside. 417 00:20:54,333 --> 00:20:56,500 Fortunately, you know, so far those holes 418 00:20:56,500 --> 00:20:59,300 haven't penetrated the pressurized volume. 419 00:20:59,300 --> 00:21:00,966 But there is a lot of damage to this. 420 00:21:00,966 --> 00:21:03,166 So eventually you're gonna have to put it in the, 421 00:21:03,166 --> 00:21:04,566 in the Pacific Ocean. 422 00:21:04,566 --> 00:21:06,200 - One of the most important things that came 423 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,300 from that experience was the twin studies. 424 00:21:08,300 --> 00:21:09,733 Cause you have an identical twin brother. 425 00:21:09,733 --> 00:21:11,233 Who's also an astronaut. 426 00:21:11,233 --> 00:21:13,333 - Yeah. Because my brother and I were identical twins, 427 00:21:13,333 --> 00:21:16,666 we're genetically very, very similar, almost like, you know 428 00:21:16,666 --> 00:21:21,666 99.9% genetically similar, that they felt like 429 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:23,966 that they could get some good science data. 430 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,833 - So the NASA twin study, the idea was born to try 431 00:21:28,833 --> 00:21:30,666 and get more genetic information 432 00:21:30,666 --> 00:21:32,233 and more molecular information 433 00:21:32,233 --> 00:21:34,466 and other types from people in space 434 00:21:34,466 --> 00:21:36,333 for longer periods of time. 435 00:21:36,333 --> 00:21:38,600 That's a little bit complicated to do. 436 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,066 So what they thought was, 437 00:21:40,066 --> 00:21:42,000 if we're gonna use a very small number of people 438 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,900 that they should be twins. 439 00:21:43,900 --> 00:21:47,200 That would allow us the ability to study one twin in space 440 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,166 and the other twin on Earth. 441 00:21:50,166 --> 00:21:53,633 Doing that would allow us to better understand 442 00:21:53,633 --> 00:21:56,233 the differences that weren't related to genetics. Right? 443 00:21:56,233 --> 00:22:00,066 Because they should have a fairly similar genetic profile. 444 00:22:00,066 --> 00:22:02,466 - For something to be statistically significant. 445 00:22:02,466 --> 00:22:03,800 You need a lot of samples. 446 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,033 - Right. 447 00:22:05,033 --> 00:22:07,133 - And this is kind of a sample of one. 448 00:22:07,133 --> 00:22:10,033 Having said that, it's also a longitudinal study. 449 00:22:10,033 --> 00:22:13,400 So you can get statistically significant data 450 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,100 by studying the same thing over a long period of time. 451 00:22:17,100 --> 00:22:18,133 Meaning Mark and I. 452 00:22:19,566 --> 00:22:23,400 - So the goal was then to study them for one year 453 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,900 and Scott Kelly was the astronaut who was in space. 454 00:22:26,900 --> 00:22:30,466 And so both of the Kelly brothers gave enormous amount 455 00:22:30,466 --> 00:22:33,433 of time, willingness, blood samples, 456 00:22:33,433 --> 00:22:36,066 every kind of tissue we could get, 457 00:22:36,066 --> 00:22:39,300 psychological testing, physiologic testing, 458 00:22:39,300 --> 00:22:40,866 over that entire year period. 459 00:22:40,866 --> 00:22:42,933 And so at the time it was really the longest 460 00:22:42,933 --> 00:22:46,700 and most comprehensive scientific study 461 00:22:46,700 --> 00:22:49,033 that had been done to that point. 462 00:22:49,033 --> 00:22:51,466 - So that became part of the science program 463 00:22:51,466 --> 00:22:53,633 and it got the most attention, 464 00:22:53,633 --> 00:22:55,633 more attention than the other science 465 00:22:55,633 --> 00:22:57,833 which was actually probably more important 466 00:22:57,833 --> 00:22:59,666 but just didn't have that kind of like 467 00:22:59,666 --> 00:23:01,733 cache human interest cache that, 468 00:23:01,733 --> 00:23:02,966 - Right. 469 00:23:02,966 --> 00:23:06,000 - [Scott] That a story about two twin brothers 470 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,000 doing a science experiment on the space station has. 471 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:10,266 - Give us some, a few nuggets, 472 00:23:10,266 --> 00:23:11,566 of the results of the twin studies. 473 00:23:11,566 --> 00:23:12,900 - Well, there were a lot of experiments 474 00:23:12,900 --> 00:23:14,833 and you know I didn't give these experiments 475 00:23:14,833 --> 00:23:16,800 any more attention or less attention 476 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,666 than I did everything else that we were doing. 477 00:23:18,666 --> 00:23:21,800 To the researchers, all of 'em, their, their, 478 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,633 their science is the most important. 479 00:23:23,633 --> 00:23:25,466 And during the course of that year 480 00:23:25,466 --> 00:23:27,966 we had 400 different experiments going on, 481 00:23:29,166 --> 00:23:30,300 the year I was on the space station. 482 00:23:30,300 --> 00:23:31,533 - That's incredible. 483 00:23:31,533 --> 00:23:32,800 - Yeah. So this was, I don't know, 484 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,866 it was probably 10 or 15 different studies. 485 00:23:34,866 --> 00:23:38,000 You know, some of them were on human cognition. 486 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,966 Like how does your brain change 487 00:23:39,966 --> 00:23:43,166 over the course of being in space from, you know, 488 00:23:43,166 --> 00:23:46,133 your ability to perform certain tasks and functions? 489 00:23:46,133 --> 00:23:48,833 What we would do is, you know, I would collect data 490 00:23:48,833 --> 00:23:51,566 or most, mostly it was like science samples, 491 00:23:51,566 --> 00:23:53,600 but there were tests that I would do. 492 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,600 And then my brother would do the same ones on the ground. 493 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,800 And I'll tell you what you gotta give him credit, 494 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,233 cause he didn't even work for NASA. 495 00:23:59,233 --> 00:24:00,700 I think they were gonna pay him. 496 00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:03,266 But it was like so little that he said, eh, don't bother. 497 00:24:03,266 --> 00:24:07,566 I don't wanna deal with the tax headache from being paid, 498 00:24:07,566 --> 00:24:10,633 you know, it's a really small amount. 499 00:24:10,633 --> 00:24:13,800 - So why is space exploration so important? 500 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,533 - You know, I think it's important for a number of reasons. 501 00:24:15,533 --> 00:24:18,966 We are, you know, genetically speaking, 502 00:24:18,966 --> 00:24:20,266 I think explorers. Right? 503 00:24:20,266 --> 00:24:23,433 If we, if we didn't have that gene, 504 00:24:23,433 --> 00:24:25,700 we would still be living in a cave somewhere. 505 00:24:25,700 --> 00:24:28,533 We have this desire to see what's, you know, 506 00:24:28,533 --> 00:24:31,100 over the horizon, what's over the ocean, 507 00:24:31,100 --> 00:24:33,900 you know, what's in outer space. 508 00:24:33,900 --> 00:24:37,400 And what it gives to our society, to our economy, 509 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,233 to our national security, is worth every penny. 510 00:24:41,233 --> 00:24:45,366 - If you look at at history, that's what human beings do. 511 00:24:45,366 --> 00:24:47,400 We've, we've always explored. 512 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,600 Well before Christopher Columbus, 513 00:24:51,733 --> 00:24:53,500 you know well before the Vikings, 514 00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:55,800 that's just something that that human beings do. 515 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,933 And I think that's just a continuation and an extension of, 516 00:24:58,933 --> 00:25:02,500 of what we've done in the past and will continue to do. 517 00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:04,233 And it's extremely important. 518 00:25:04,233 --> 00:25:07,233 It's extremely vital, beneficial to the American public, 519 00:25:07,233 --> 00:25:08,666 to the globe. 520 00:25:08,666 --> 00:25:11,033 (somber music) 521 00:25:11,033 --> 00:25:13,000 As space exploration transitioned 522 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,200 to becoming more collaborative, 523 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,266 it set the stage for how it can benefit life 524 00:25:17,266 --> 00:25:18,766 right here on Earth. 525 00:25:18,766 --> 00:25:21,633 But it's not just about going outwards, going to the moon. 526 00:25:21,633 --> 00:25:23,600 It's also about looking back at Earth. 527 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,733 What can we learn about our own blue planet? 528 00:25:26,733 --> 00:25:28,700 - Looking back at the Earth from space 529 00:25:28,700 --> 00:25:31,733 gives us a whole new perspective on our planet. 530 00:25:31,733 --> 00:25:32,966 - And that's what we're gonna look at 531 00:25:32,966 --> 00:25:34,966 in the next episode of Behind the Wings... 532 00:25:34,966 --> 00:25:37,700 satellites and their sensors. Exploring the question - 533 00:25:37,700 --> 00:25:39,500 what can we learn about the Earth 534 00:25:39,500 --> 00:25:41,333 by looking back from space? 535 00:25:41,333 --> 00:25:44,400 (upbeat dance music) 43418

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