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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:03,045 --> 00:00:04,213 What do you say? 2 00:00:08,967 --> 00:00:11,970 Alright, one more time! 3 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,392 You know, it's been two and a half years 4 00:00:17,476 --> 00:00:19,353 since we were able to tour. 5 00:00:19,811 --> 00:00:23,315 And we wanted to do some dates this year just to see if, uh, 6 00:00:24,024 --> 00:00:26,485 well, if we still could. 7 00:00:41,875 --> 00:00:43,836 When I left the stage in Nashville, 8 00:00:43,919 --> 00:00:45,045 I was feeling alright. 9 00:00:47,214 --> 00:00:49,258 When I went into the dressing room in Nashville, 10 00:00:49,341 --> 00:00:52,761 I was given another reality by someone I trust. 11 00:00:55,931 --> 00:00:57,933 I had a conversation with my wife in that room, 12 00:00:58,016 --> 00:01:01,687 where she had said, "It wasn't great. 13 00:01:02,604 --> 00:01:04,773 And I've seen you be great." 14 00:01:06,441 --> 00:01:09,236 Of course, then I heard, "It's time to retire." 15 00:01:10,779 --> 00:01:11,822 It hurt my heart. 16 00:01:15,909 --> 00:01:19,162 So when I went back to the doctor, I said, "I've done everything I can. 17 00:01:20,205 --> 00:01:23,792 And I can give you 100% of 80%." 18 00:01:24,918 --> 00:01:27,963 And he said, um, "Is that good enough for you?" 19 00:01:28,046 --> 00:01:30,799 And I said, "No, you know, I think it's time to retire." 20 00:01:32,217 --> 00:01:33,260 And he says, "I see. 21 00:01:33,343 --> 00:01:36,096 Now, we can talk about surgery." 22 00:01:43,103 --> 00:01:45,063 Live from Los Angeles, 23 00:01:45,147 --> 00:01:49,026 the 1989 MTV Video Music Awards. 24 00:01:49,735 --> 00:01:53,113 Performing: Paula Abdul, Jon Bon Jovi and Richie Sambora. 25 00:02:00,662 --> 00:02:02,164 - Hi, everyone! - Hello! 26 00:02:12,716 --> 00:02:15,344 ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh ♪ 27 00:02:16,345 --> 00:02:18,388 ♪ I walk the streets ♪ 28 00:02:18,972 --> 00:02:21,808 ♪ I carry my guitar on my back ♪ 29 00:02:22,392 --> 00:02:24,728 ♪ I play and sing for keeps ♪ 30 00:02:25,062 --> 00:02:27,814 ♪ 'Cause I might not make it back ♪ 31 00:02:27,898 --> 00:02:32,027 ♪ Lord, I've been everywhere, oh, yeah, yeah ♪ 32 00:02:32,110 --> 00:02:33,987 ♪ And I'm standing tall ♪ 33 00:02:34,071 --> 00:02:37,324 ♪ But, baby, I've seen a million faces ♪ 34 00:02:37,407 --> 00:02:39,535 ♪ And I've rocked them all ♪ 35 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,914 -♪ And I ride ♪ -♪ When I ride ♪ 36 00:02:43,997 --> 00:02:46,083 ♪ Dead or alive ♪ 37 00:02:46,166 --> 00:02:47,459 ♪ Yeah, I try ♪ 38 00:02:47,543 --> 00:02:49,920 ♪ I still try ♪ 39 00:02:50,003 --> 00:02:52,214 ♪ Dead or alive ♪ 40 00:02:52,965 --> 00:02:55,968 ♪ Dead or alive ♪ 41 00:02:56,051 --> 00:02:58,595 ♪ Dead or alive ♪ 42 00:02:59,137 --> 00:03:01,974 ♪ Dead or alive ♪ 43 00:03:02,349 --> 00:03:05,477 ♪ Dead or alive ♪ 44 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:09,565 Thank you. 45 00:03:09,982 --> 00:03:12,067 Thank you, God bless, bye-bye. 46 00:03:14,278 --> 00:03:16,363 Buenos Noches, Guadalajara. 47 00:03:19,616 --> 00:03:20,868 Muchos gracias. 48 00:03:31,545 --> 00:03:33,589 And it is true that by, on your last tour, 49 00:03:33,672 --> 00:03:35,299 your last tour together, 50 00:03:35,382 --> 00:03:37,217 you guys were not even talking to each other. 51 00:03:37,301 --> 00:03:38,552 -No, no, no. - You had, right, 52 00:03:38,635 --> 00:03:39,636 you were mad at each other. 53 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,013 It says it in your bio. 54 00:03:41,096 --> 00:03:42,723 No, no, no, no. No, it doesn't. 55 00:03:42,806 --> 00:03:44,933 Yes, it does. I just read it in their bio. 56 00:03:45,017 --> 00:03:46,476 No, you know, you have a bio... 57 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,729 There was never a fight within the band. 58 00:03:49,271 --> 00:03:51,064 The press created the whole thing. 59 00:03:51,148 --> 00:03:52,858 It started in the English newspapers. 60 00:03:52,941 --> 00:03:55,694 I got it on the, by the wonder of fax. 61 00:03:55,777 --> 00:03:57,946 And I'm going, "I haven't talked to the guys in about six weeks. 62 00:03:58,030 --> 00:03:59,656 I wonder if the band's over." 63 00:03:59,740 --> 00:04:01,074 - You know? 64 00:04:01,158 --> 00:04:03,327 And I hadn't talked to anyone to find out for sure. 65 00:04:03,410 --> 00:04:06,914 So one thing led to another, and it started to get ugly. 66 00:04:06,997 --> 00:04:08,290 - Yeah. -You know, and it was because 67 00:04:08,373 --> 00:04:09,958 we were all reading the press. 68 00:04:10,042 --> 00:04:11,960 I don't think that there was ever a day where I'd said 69 00:04:12,044 --> 00:04:14,254 at that point, I don't like these guys. 70 00:04:14,338 --> 00:04:17,674 I don't want to be in a band with 'em. I... that was not the case. 71 00:04:17,758 --> 00:04:19,343 At least from my perspective. 72 00:04:19,718 --> 00:04:21,011 The burnout was real. 73 00:04:21,470 --> 00:04:25,265 The confusion was on 10. 74 00:04:25,349 --> 00:04:27,726 I, I just didn't know what any of it meant 75 00:04:27,809 --> 00:04:30,604 or why this was even worth it anymore. 76 00:04:30,687 --> 00:04:32,356 There wasn't, you know, cursing 77 00:04:32,439 --> 00:04:34,024 and, you know, middle fingers to each other. 78 00:04:34,107 --> 00:04:36,026 It just was not-- 79 00:04:36,109 --> 00:04:39,780 I think we were just all burned out from the last, uh, six years. 80 00:04:39,863 --> 00:04:41,156 - You were tired. -Yeah. 81 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,533 -You wanted-- -We never hated each other. 82 00:04:42,616 --> 00:04:45,744 We were just dead. We were down in Mexico dying. 83 00:04:45,827 --> 00:04:47,287 Wait, it says, "Looking back, 84 00:04:47,371 --> 00:04:49,331 there was a lot of bad 'S' that went down." 85 00:04:49,414 --> 00:04:50,916 - Yeah. - Really? 86 00:04:50,999 --> 00:04:52,125 Yeah. 87 00:04:52,209 --> 00:04:53,544 We were sick of each other. 88 00:04:54,503 --> 00:04:56,004 There's no way you can't be. 89 00:04:56,338 --> 00:04:58,131 I always said, like, when you get off the tour, 90 00:04:58,215 --> 00:05:01,343 it's like going in a train that's going 300 miles an hour 91 00:05:01,426 --> 00:05:03,053 and then you jump off and you kind of roll 92 00:05:03,136 --> 00:05:04,888 for a couple of fucking months, 93 00:05:04,972 --> 00:05:06,348 you know, and you're rolling and rolling 94 00:05:06,431 --> 00:05:08,225 and you finally clear the dust off yourself 95 00:05:08,308 --> 00:05:09,935 and you stand up, you go, "Phew. 96 00:05:10,394 --> 00:05:11,895 Okay, what just happened?" 97 00:05:12,563 --> 00:05:15,107 Well, I lived in a little country house in the middle of nowhere, 98 00:05:15,649 --> 00:05:17,943 and, uh, I had solitude. 99 00:05:18,610 --> 00:05:21,488 I needed to go and be a mechanic on my cars 100 00:05:21,572 --> 00:05:25,701 or paint or do something that's just me. 101 00:05:26,159 --> 00:05:28,370 Uh, I think we all rushed to do that, 102 00:05:28,453 --> 00:05:31,915 to do as much as of our own, find out who we are. 103 00:05:32,416 --> 00:05:34,751 And there wasn't really a certainty of what we were doing, 104 00:05:34,835 --> 00:05:36,628 'cause we all kind of just went home. 105 00:05:37,045 --> 00:05:39,965 It was definitely a pensive time. 106 00:05:45,470 --> 00:05:47,973 The biggest, or at least the most mysterious news of the week, 107 00:05:48,056 --> 00:05:49,892 was the secret wedding of Jon Bon Jovi 108 00:05:49,975 --> 00:05:52,728 and his longtime Jersey girlfriend Dorothea Hurley, 109 00:05:52,811 --> 00:05:54,813 which apparently happened at midnight last Friday night 110 00:05:54,897 --> 00:05:56,690 at a quickie hitching factory in Las Vegas 111 00:05:56,773 --> 00:05:58,108 called The Graceland Wedding Chapel. 112 00:06:00,110 --> 00:06:02,779 Taking a step back, you know, 1980, 113 00:06:02,863 --> 00:06:04,406 I started dating Dorothea. 114 00:06:04,489 --> 00:06:05,908 I was smitten. 115 00:06:05,991 --> 00:06:07,451 He was cute. I always say I'm shallow. 116 00:06:07,534 --> 00:06:09,328 He was cute, he had beautiful blue eyes. 117 00:06:09,411 --> 00:06:12,289 And, and I, you know, kind of was attracted to him. 118 00:06:13,540 --> 00:06:16,168 You know, when you're young like that, you're trying to figure out who you are. 119 00:06:16,251 --> 00:06:18,170 We were dating, we were definitely a couple. 120 00:06:18,253 --> 00:06:21,882 We were together and like anybody else, you're trying to figure your stuff out. 121 00:06:21,965 --> 00:06:23,425 And so you break up, you get back together, 122 00:06:23,509 --> 00:06:25,010 you break up, you get back together. 123 00:06:25,093 --> 00:06:29,723 But I knew that he was going to be something, you know? 124 00:06:29,806 --> 00:06:32,601 You could just see the potential and the drive that he had. 125 00:06:35,229 --> 00:06:39,149 It is April 28th, 1989. 126 00:06:39,608 --> 00:06:41,485 We had just played three nights at the Forum. 127 00:06:41,568 --> 00:06:43,946 I had the number-one album, number-one single, 128 00:06:44,029 --> 00:06:45,614 And there was a big billboard 129 00:06:45,697 --> 00:06:47,616 out in front of the hotel of the band. 130 00:06:47,699 --> 00:06:49,368 And he said, "Let's go to Vegas." 131 00:06:50,035 --> 00:06:51,537 I finally needed a higher high. 132 00:06:51,620 --> 00:06:54,248 And then I, I said, "Let's, let's elope tonight. 133 00:06:54,331 --> 00:06:55,749 Right now, right-right now." 134 00:06:56,250 --> 00:06:57,751 And so we went to Vegas and eloped, 135 00:06:57,835 --> 00:07:00,003 and then everything changed. 136 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,758 It was holy hell from the minute we started telling anybody. 137 00:07:04,842 --> 00:07:09,012 My parents, Doc, the band. 138 00:07:09,096 --> 00:07:11,932 You'd think people would be happy for us. 139 00:07:12,015 --> 00:07:13,976 Well, we were more concerned about, you know, 140 00:07:14,059 --> 00:07:15,853 like, "Oh, my God, if you tell everybody, 141 00:07:15,936 --> 00:07:17,604 then it's gonna turn away all the chicks." 142 00:07:17,688 --> 00:07:19,857 You know, they're not gonna like you anymore 'cause you're married. 143 00:07:19,940 --> 00:07:21,441 So it was like, it's gonna hurt the career. 144 00:07:21,733 --> 00:07:23,819 Okay, we got one more question here. What would you like to ask? 145 00:07:23,902 --> 00:07:26,280 Okay, um, is he still seeing Dorothea Hurley? 146 00:07:26,697 --> 00:07:27,781 Is he still seeing-- 147 00:07:27,865 --> 00:07:30,242 And if he is, forget about her, 'cause I'm, I'll take her place. 148 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,621 Oh, there was so much drama and backlash. 149 00:07:34,705 --> 00:07:36,039 People were not happy. 150 00:07:36,123 --> 00:07:38,750 Everybody was very worried about what did this mean? 151 00:07:38,834 --> 00:07:42,045 And I didn't wanna be the reason why, you know, 152 00:07:42,129 --> 00:07:45,048 Jon was not able to continue in, in what he wanted to do. 153 00:07:45,132 --> 00:07:47,801 You know, we had to make a decision that it was us, 154 00:07:47,885 --> 00:07:50,721 not them, that were gonna make the decision. 155 00:07:50,804 --> 00:07:52,723 There was a lot of broken-hearted young girls 156 00:07:52,806 --> 00:07:54,308 in, in, in the world. 157 00:07:54,391 --> 00:07:57,019 I'm a hopeless romantic, you know, I, uh... 158 00:07:57,102 --> 00:07:59,146 - Oh. 159 00:07:59,229 --> 00:08:01,607 And-and she's my best friend. 160 00:08:02,149 --> 00:08:04,693 We might've been the same, but everyone else's perception 161 00:08:04,776 --> 00:08:09,072 of who Jon was, what it was, was-- had changed dramatically. 162 00:08:09,615 --> 00:08:12,284 And so I went home and I-I-I shifted gears. 163 00:08:12,784 --> 00:08:16,079 I just shifted gears. I-I was still on overdrive. 164 00:08:16,163 --> 00:08:18,165 I was still on the, "I'll prove it to you," 165 00:08:18,582 --> 00:08:19,583 which was-- 166 00:08:20,250 --> 00:08:23,003 But my strength and biggest flaw is that "I'll show you, 167 00:08:23,086 --> 00:08:24,463 I'll show you, I'll show you." 168 00:08:24,546 --> 00:08:26,924 So I went home and I wrote the Young Guns album. 169 00:08:31,887 --> 00:08:33,263 You know, I wasn't gonna let anyone say 170 00:08:33,347 --> 00:08:36,308 that, "Oh, he had to co-write the songs." 171 00:08:36,391 --> 00:08:38,435 I was like, "Fuck you, I'll write the whole album, 172 00:08:38,519 --> 00:08:40,020 and they'll be number-one songs." 173 00:08:44,858 --> 00:08:45,859 Hold still, now. 174 00:08:46,401 --> 00:08:48,570 I met Emilio Estevez, and he actually wanted 175 00:08:48,654 --> 00:08:50,447 to use Wanted Dead or Alive in Young Guns. 176 00:08:50,531 --> 00:08:52,032 And I said, "Well, that's nice, but I can write you 177 00:08:52,115 --> 00:08:53,700 something specific to the movie." 178 00:08:54,117 --> 00:08:56,954 So I wrote Blaze of Glory to be in the vein 179 00:08:57,037 --> 00:09:00,332 of Wanted the way they wanted Wanted to work, 180 00:09:00,415 --> 00:09:01,792 you know, in that slot 181 00:09:01,875 --> 00:09:03,794 but with lyrics that fit their movie. 182 00:09:04,336 --> 00:09:06,755 ♪ I wake up in the morning ♪ 183 00:09:06,839 --> 00:09:09,174 ♪ And I raise my weary head ♪ 184 00:09:09,258 --> 00:09:10,884 With this, I didn't have to dig down personally 185 00:09:10,968 --> 00:09:12,678 and realize, "Who am I?" again. 186 00:09:12,761 --> 00:09:14,638 I just had to open up to page 110 187 00:09:14,721 --> 00:09:16,598 and say, "Geez, Keifer's character needs a song." 188 00:09:16,682 --> 00:09:19,101 ♪ I don't know where I'm goin' ♪ 189 00:09:19,184 --> 00:09:22,062 ♪ Only God knows where I've been ♪ 190 00:09:22,145 --> 00:09:24,022 No matter what he says, it could be about a movie, 191 00:09:24,106 --> 00:09:25,440 but it was very cathartic for him. 192 00:09:25,524 --> 00:09:27,109 He needed to get those songs out. 193 00:09:27,192 --> 00:09:28,527 - Action! 194 00:09:30,821 --> 00:09:32,698 I took a nice shot to the chest, 195 00:09:32,781 --> 00:09:34,366 and yeah, Jon is dead. 196 00:09:35,868 --> 00:09:36,952 Save to the board. 197 00:09:40,914 --> 00:09:42,499 We did Blaze of Glory. 198 00:09:42,583 --> 00:09:45,294 I saw it start to fall apart a little bit 199 00:09:45,377 --> 00:09:47,337 because I think Jonny wanted 200 00:09:47,421 --> 00:09:49,798 to go a different direction completely. 201 00:09:49,882 --> 00:09:51,216 Jon went to do a solo record, 202 00:09:51,300 --> 00:09:53,635 then Richie did his solo record. 203 00:09:53,719 --> 00:09:57,222 I was now recording Stranger in This Town. 204 00:09:57,681 --> 00:09:59,808 I was having... 205 00:10:00,309 --> 00:10:02,144 this is what that was paying for, 206 00:10:02,227 --> 00:10:04,354 me to have my artistic freedom. 207 00:10:06,565 --> 00:10:09,902 Uh, this man has sold over 30 million records 208 00:10:09,985 --> 00:10:11,862 as the lead guitarist for Bon Jovi. 209 00:10:11,945 --> 00:10:13,280 And now he has his own solo album. 210 00:10:13,363 --> 00:10:15,115 It's entitled Stranger In This Town. 211 00:10:15,199 --> 00:10:18,368 Performing One Light Burning, this is Richie Sambora. 212 00:10:27,169 --> 00:10:28,837 It's something that I always wanted to do 213 00:10:28,921 --> 00:10:30,464 since I was a boy, you know? 214 00:10:30,547 --> 00:10:33,550 So it's like, uh, it seems like 30 years 215 00:10:33,634 --> 00:10:36,553 of work to get to this point, 216 00:10:36,637 --> 00:10:38,388 to be able to actually have the privilege 217 00:10:38,889 --> 00:10:39,890 to do my own record. 218 00:10:46,647 --> 00:10:49,149 See, in Bon Jovi, even when I write with Jon, 219 00:10:49,233 --> 00:10:52,402 I write for Jon to be able to sing what he needs to be able to sing 220 00:10:52,486 --> 00:10:53,612 so he can get the point across. 221 00:10:53,695 --> 00:10:54,738 - Yeah. -You know? 222 00:10:54,821 --> 00:10:56,406 So when I'm doing my stuff, it's for me. 223 00:10:56,490 --> 00:11:01,578 It's in his best interest, um, to do it by himself 224 00:11:02,204 --> 00:11:04,206 so that people don't think I did it for him. 225 00:11:04,289 --> 00:11:07,960 There was always tension between Jonny and Richie, 226 00:11:08,043 --> 00:11:10,212 not because they didn't like each other, 227 00:11:10,295 --> 00:11:14,341 but it was the competition between the two. 228 00:11:14,883 --> 00:11:17,177 Just as being competitive people. 229 00:11:17,261 --> 00:11:20,389 ♪ See my life going by... ♪ 230 00:11:21,139 --> 00:11:24,893 Everybody wants to do their own thing, 231 00:11:26,395 --> 00:11:29,439 to prove that their worth is more 232 00:11:29,523 --> 00:11:31,191 than the other person's worth. 233 00:11:31,942 --> 00:11:33,735 You started putting business 234 00:11:33,819 --> 00:11:37,698 in this brotherhood family unit, 235 00:11:37,781 --> 00:11:39,658 and you know that never works. 236 00:11:40,033 --> 00:11:42,119 What's the status of Bon Jovi? 237 00:11:42,202 --> 00:11:44,121 Yeah, I mean, we, you know, we went through some problems. 238 00:11:44,204 --> 00:11:45,372 Every family has their problems. 239 00:11:45,455 --> 00:11:46,999 You know, everybody fights a bit here and there. 240 00:11:47,082 --> 00:11:48,166 We're from Jersey, so, you know, 241 00:11:48,250 --> 00:11:49,918 we usually clear out hotel rooms and duke it out. 242 00:11:50,002 --> 00:11:51,211 - Yeah. 243 00:11:51,295 --> 00:11:52,421 Yeah! 244 00:11:53,005 --> 00:11:54,590 It was really a rough time. 245 00:11:55,591 --> 00:11:58,260 It was really a rough time. It was rough for everybody. 246 00:11:58,844 --> 00:12:03,140 You know, 'cause you go, what's gonna happen here? 247 00:12:03,223 --> 00:12:05,017 Nobody knew what was gonna happen. 248 00:12:05,642 --> 00:12:08,687 ♪ One light burning ♪ 249 00:12:14,401 --> 00:12:15,903 Jon wanted something different. 250 00:12:15,986 --> 00:12:18,572 He wanted-- he's looking for something 251 00:12:20,282 --> 00:12:21,533 that nobody could find. 252 00:12:26,413 --> 00:12:29,082 Sometime in that time, we took a motorcycle trip. 253 00:12:29,833 --> 00:12:32,085 It was just a lot of fun. We were like a gang. 254 00:12:32,169 --> 00:12:35,547 And, and the rule was we could only stay in motels 255 00:12:35,631 --> 00:12:37,382 that were no more than $30 a night. 256 00:12:37,466 --> 00:12:38,467 Hello. 257 00:12:39,176 --> 00:12:40,511 So we stayed at, like, 258 00:12:40,594 --> 00:12:45,224 just local roadside places and, uh, just had fun. 259 00:12:45,307 --> 00:12:47,851 Jon, are you enjoying the petrified forest? 260 00:12:47,935 --> 00:12:49,353 Yeah, I'm being petrified. 261 00:12:52,731 --> 00:12:54,191 You know me. 262 00:12:54,274 --> 00:12:55,317 Mr. Excitement. 263 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:56,652 Mr. Excitement. 264 00:13:05,911 --> 00:13:07,371 You know, and we didn't know if we-- 265 00:13:07,829 --> 00:13:09,831 I know it was a break. We didn't know if it was a breakup, 266 00:13:09,915 --> 00:13:11,667 so we didn't know what was going on. 267 00:13:12,042 --> 00:13:13,627 We didn't know if we was gonna come back. 268 00:13:15,254 --> 00:13:16,255 We didn't know. 269 00:13:19,007 --> 00:13:21,343 Ahh... 270 00:13:21,426 --> 00:13:22,678 Stop, do it again. 271 00:13:26,306 --> 00:13:27,683 Ahh. 272 00:13:51,248 --> 00:13:54,626 There's a, a surgery that can be done, 273 00:13:56,211 --> 00:13:57,421 that I feel good about. 274 00:14:16,190 --> 00:14:19,026 I guess you'd consider it like a facelift for the vocal cords. 275 00:14:19,902 --> 00:14:23,780 It's a way to get them to close again. 276 00:14:23,864 --> 00:14:26,033 These things represent your vocal folds. 277 00:14:26,742 --> 00:14:29,119 I make a little hole here 278 00:14:30,495 --> 00:14:32,831 and put in essentially a shim 279 00:14:33,957 --> 00:14:35,918 on, probably on both sides. 280 00:14:36,001 --> 00:14:38,629 I'm very optimistic about it, and I have nothing to lose. 281 00:14:42,799 --> 00:14:46,094 5:40 in the morning, 282 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,056 on the day. 283 00:14:49,681 --> 00:14:51,808 Philadelphia never looked so good. 284 00:14:55,062 --> 00:14:58,357 And I'm rarin' to go. 285 00:14:59,149 --> 00:15:01,777 So let's get this on. 286 00:15:25,300 --> 00:15:27,177 I'm gonna close the door for some privacy. 287 00:15:49,992 --> 00:15:51,660 The next day, I go to see that doctor. 288 00:15:51,743 --> 00:15:53,370 You know, he says, you know, "How do you feel?" 289 00:15:53,453 --> 00:15:55,372 They check the pain levels and stuff, 290 00:15:56,331 --> 00:15:57,749 and he says, "You can't sing a note... 291 00:15:59,001 --> 00:16:00,294 Nothing, three months." 292 00:16:01,503 --> 00:16:03,422 My next breakout star is a performer 293 00:16:03,505 --> 00:16:04,840 who already has broken through 294 00:16:04,923 --> 00:16:07,634 in one other entertainment arena, rock music. 295 00:16:07,718 --> 00:16:09,052 It's Jon Bon Jovi, 296 00:16:09,136 --> 00:16:11,930 who has been a bestselling performer since the mid 1980s, 297 00:16:12,014 --> 00:16:14,308 but now has emerged as a film actor. 298 00:16:14,391 --> 00:16:15,642 I think you chose a great color. 299 00:16:15,726 --> 00:16:17,352 I'm flattered that you like my ass, 300 00:16:17,436 --> 00:16:19,313 and if it's okay, I'm gonna come back first thing 301 00:16:19,396 --> 00:16:20,772 tomorrow morning, get this going, alright? 302 00:16:21,315 --> 00:16:23,775 Jon Bon Jovi provides both a fresh face 303 00:16:23,859 --> 00:16:25,903 and a fresh sensibility in the movies today. 304 00:16:29,072 --> 00:16:33,660 So my initial foray, truthfully was, "This is intriguing." 305 00:16:34,077 --> 00:16:36,079 It's a way to continue in the arts, 306 00:16:36,163 --> 00:16:38,749 but I was so green that I went to the set 307 00:16:38,832 --> 00:16:41,835 and take one, take two, take three, and I went over to the director, 308 00:16:41,919 --> 00:16:44,505 and I said, "I'm sorry that it's taken three takes. 309 00:16:44,588 --> 00:16:47,132 Uh, I'll be happy to pay for the film." 310 00:16:47,216 --> 00:16:48,550 And he looked at me like I was crazy. 311 00:16:48,634 --> 00:16:50,719 And he said, "It's how you make movies, 312 00:16:50,802 --> 00:16:52,346 you know, you do more than one take." 313 00:16:52,804 --> 00:16:54,056 But I didn't know. 314 00:16:54,139 --> 00:16:56,016 There are not many rock stars 315 00:16:56,099 --> 00:16:58,602 who make the transition from music to films. 316 00:16:58,685 --> 00:17:01,355 -And, and you don't sing in these films? -No. 317 00:17:01,438 --> 00:17:02,731 Do you have any role models? 318 00:17:02,814 --> 00:17:04,149 Frank Sinatra. 319 00:17:04,233 --> 00:17:05,442 He wanted to be an actor 320 00:17:06,360 --> 00:17:09,821 because he saw this, and I never got it. 321 00:17:09,905 --> 00:17:11,782 Hi, I'm Seth. 322 00:17:12,866 --> 00:17:14,701 Oh, h-hi. 323 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,829 I didn't believe in his acting career at all. 324 00:17:18,997 --> 00:17:21,875 I told him it a million times, 325 00:17:21,959 --> 00:17:26,713 which probably was a, a non-starter for him. 326 00:17:28,841 --> 00:17:30,217 We had had a falling out. 327 00:17:31,343 --> 00:17:32,886 I was at one of these award shows, 328 00:17:32,970 --> 00:17:34,555 and I'm in the back of a limousine 329 00:17:34,638 --> 00:17:36,640 with him and his wife and me and mine. 330 00:17:36,723 --> 00:17:40,227 And some words were said, and I said, you know, "I want to do movies 331 00:17:40,310 --> 00:17:42,604 and I wanna write more soundtracks, and this is easy." 332 00:17:42,688 --> 00:17:45,065 And Doc, he was adamant about, 333 00:17:45,566 --> 00:17:47,192 "You're in a rock band, go do that." 334 00:17:47,276 --> 00:17:50,112 And something was said to the effect of, 335 00:17:50,195 --> 00:17:52,155 you know, "If you want to go do it, you should go do it." 336 00:17:52,239 --> 00:17:53,740 I said, "Okay, I will." 337 00:17:56,201 --> 00:17:59,329 It was a combination of things that didn't happen. 338 00:17:59,788 --> 00:18:02,207 Just at the time, wasn't, wasn't gelling. 339 00:18:03,041 --> 00:18:06,044 Whether I, I didn't care enough 340 00:18:06,545 --> 00:18:09,464 or he-he was too pompous 341 00:18:09,548 --> 00:18:11,675 and, and what he-- where he was going. 342 00:18:12,593 --> 00:18:15,220 I don't know, I think it was a combination of all those things. 343 00:18:15,304 --> 00:18:17,264 Whatever it was was not good. 344 00:18:17,639 --> 00:18:19,474 This is a rock and roll show, isn't it? 345 00:18:19,850 --> 00:18:21,268 Yeah. 346 00:18:22,144 --> 00:18:24,021 Okay, well, I just thought, you know, 347 00:18:24,104 --> 00:18:26,523 "Hey, fuck me, I just wanna know when we're gonna go on." 348 00:18:26,940 --> 00:18:30,068 There was a lot of unexplained animus, 349 00:18:30,152 --> 00:18:32,571 you know, there was like, "Well, why do you hate me? 350 00:18:32,654 --> 00:18:33,655 And why do I hate you?" 351 00:18:33,739 --> 00:18:35,490 There-- and no one knew why. 352 00:18:36,241 --> 00:18:38,452 And, um, I let him go. 353 00:18:40,829 --> 00:18:43,582 Jon, early on, 354 00:18:44,166 --> 00:18:45,584 I think saw 355 00:18:46,752 --> 00:18:50,088 things in a much bigger picture than anybody else did. 356 00:18:54,843 --> 00:18:58,931 He knew he wanted to achieve X, Y, and Z. 357 00:19:01,266 --> 00:19:03,769 When you have a manager that's that strong, 358 00:19:04,102 --> 00:19:05,437 you're always a child, 359 00:19:05,896 --> 00:19:08,148 because you leave it up to, "Oh, talk to my manager." 360 00:19:08,565 --> 00:19:11,276 "Oh, he can make the decision," or she, 361 00:19:11,777 --> 00:19:15,155 and then, eventually, you lose control of your life. 362 00:19:16,615 --> 00:19:20,035 I should have been able to rectify that. 363 00:19:20,118 --> 00:19:25,082 And maybe I wasn't feeling like I wanted to at the time, 364 00:19:25,165 --> 00:19:28,460 which is one of those learning life lessons. 365 00:19:29,044 --> 00:19:32,339 It was those things that I realized I gotta have somebody 366 00:19:32,422 --> 00:19:34,716 that's playing for, for me. 367 00:19:35,175 --> 00:19:36,802 This is the end... 368 00:19:36,885 --> 00:19:38,887 Let me just get my own Christmas tree then. 369 00:19:38,971 --> 00:19:40,097 ...of the beginning. 370 00:19:42,474 --> 00:19:44,476 I said, "What if we just do it ourselves? 371 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,604 You know, what if I start Bon Jovi management?" 372 00:19:47,688 --> 00:19:48,772 At the Argentinean? 373 00:19:48,856 --> 00:19:50,816 And so we, we started BJM, 374 00:19:50,899 --> 00:19:53,443 with Paul Korzilius running it on a day-to-day basis 375 00:19:53,527 --> 00:19:56,405 and didn't need a manager. 376 00:19:56,488 --> 00:19:59,032 But one of the main tenets of Bon Jovi management 377 00:19:59,116 --> 00:20:01,577 was that this is not about the commission. 378 00:20:01,660 --> 00:20:04,454 It's not about getting as much money out of this as possible. 379 00:20:04,538 --> 00:20:07,249 It's about protecting us as people first. 380 00:20:08,876 --> 00:20:11,837 Paul Korzilius is the glue. 381 00:20:12,296 --> 00:20:15,966 He's a walking encyclopedia of everything Bon Jovi. 382 00:20:16,049 --> 00:20:18,260 In the immortal words of Paul Korzilius, 383 00:20:18,343 --> 00:20:19,636 our road manager, 384 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,263 "We made it to the dance." 385 00:20:21,597 --> 00:20:23,557 We were A and R people in ourselves. 386 00:20:23,807 --> 00:20:26,435 And Jon was a, a good businessman. 387 00:20:26,518 --> 00:20:28,562 So was I, at the time, you know? 388 00:20:28,937 --> 00:20:33,192 We were always involved in business decisions, 389 00:20:33,650 --> 00:20:35,360 merchandising design, everything, 390 00:20:35,444 --> 00:20:36,486 you name it. 391 00:20:36,570 --> 00:20:37,779 Also, it was a big percentage 392 00:20:37,863 --> 00:20:39,239 of money we didn't have to pay out, 393 00:20:40,073 --> 00:20:43,076 which was advantageous to everybody in the band. 394 00:20:43,493 --> 00:20:47,831 So I'm probably 28, 29 years old, 395 00:20:47,915 --> 00:20:50,584 thrust into this situation where I'm-I'm now, you know, 396 00:20:50,667 --> 00:20:54,004 th-the boss of this big business. 397 00:21:01,261 --> 00:21:04,097 I had just gotten rid of management 398 00:21:04,181 --> 00:21:05,974 and agents and lawyers and them, 399 00:21:06,058 --> 00:21:08,268 so everything that I'd known as becoming, 400 00:21:08,352 --> 00:21:13,315 you know, in my life, um, was now gone, and... 401 00:21:13,398 --> 00:21:16,401 I realized change has gotta come. 402 00:21:16,944 --> 00:21:18,946 And that's when, you know, the band had to sit down 403 00:21:19,029 --> 00:21:20,572 in a room and talk 404 00:21:20,656 --> 00:21:22,199 and get on the same page again. 405 00:21:22,282 --> 00:21:24,284 'Cause that was no way to go forward. 406 00:21:24,743 --> 00:21:27,120 Th-that would've been the be-- that would have been the end. 407 00:21:30,624 --> 00:21:33,836 ♪ Sometimes it's not for days ♪ 408 00:21:33,919 --> 00:21:35,546 ♪ The people I meet ♪ 409 00:21:36,338 --> 00:21:39,466 ♪ Always go their separate ways ♪ 410 00:21:39,550 --> 00:21:44,680 We were as a band down, uh, in St. Thomas last October. 411 00:21:45,264 --> 00:21:48,100 We went down there, just the five of us 412 00:21:48,183 --> 00:21:51,186 after a lot of the changes have gone on 413 00:21:51,270 --> 00:21:54,398 an-and the redefining of our goals... 414 00:21:54,481 --> 00:21:57,651 Jon, and where he got this idea is beyond me, 415 00:21:58,110 --> 00:22:01,363 um, to enlist a, a psychotherapist, 416 00:22:01,446 --> 00:22:04,741 uh, uh, uh, somebody who does corporate therapy. 417 00:22:05,951 --> 00:22:07,119 Lou. 418 00:22:07,744 --> 00:22:09,162 I thought that Lou was great. 419 00:22:10,330 --> 00:22:12,249 I had no problem because... 420 00:22:15,169 --> 00:22:17,754 I'm one of those guys that raised their hand in group. 421 00:22:18,172 --> 00:22:20,966 But I love the idea of an intermediate 422 00:22:21,049 --> 00:22:23,760 to sit in the room with us, with nothing to gain. 423 00:22:24,094 --> 00:22:28,182 And that was a forum for all of us to be able 424 00:22:28,265 --> 00:22:30,601 to talk from the gut, 425 00:22:30,684 --> 00:22:33,478 be honest with each other in a safe place. 426 00:22:33,562 --> 00:22:35,981 I think that there was a little bit 427 00:22:36,064 --> 00:22:38,025 of getting over the hump 428 00:22:38,108 --> 00:22:42,613 of everybody being the smartest guy in the room, 429 00:22:43,030 --> 00:22:45,657 to us collectively saying, 430 00:22:45,741 --> 00:22:50,204 "We are the only way that this is gonna work out." 431 00:22:50,287 --> 00:22:52,289 It's going to take "we." 432 00:22:52,372 --> 00:22:54,917 I think that you can't have success 433 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,710 without that type of conversation. 434 00:22:56,793 --> 00:22:57,836 I think Jon knew that. 435 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,465 Richie and Johnny are so full of, uh, songs 436 00:23:01,548 --> 00:23:03,383 and stuff that are just jumping out of them, 437 00:23:03,467 --> 00:23:05,260 that I'm not worried at all 438 00:23:05,344 --> 00:23:08,180 about what our new album will be like. 439 00:23:08,263 --> 00:23:11,183 Step by step, I got their trust, 440 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,019 and we started to write songs 441 00:23:14,102 --> 00:23:15,521 for what became Keep the Faith. 442 00:23:15,604 --> 00:23:17,940 Well, we like the solo stuff, but we like 'em together with the band. 443 00:23:18,023 --> 00:23:19,816 I think they make a good, they make a good team. 444 00:23:19,900 --> 00:23:21,735 Let's hear some new music from them. 445 00:23:21,818 --> 00:23:23,820 I'm ready for it. I think we're all ready for it. 446 00:23:24,988 --> 00:23:27,407 ♪ Yeah ♪ 447 00:23:33,288 --> 00:23:35,082 The songwriting reunion of Jon Bon Jovi 448 00:23:35,165 --> 00:23:37,793 and his partner Richie Sambora has produced Keep the Faith, 449 00:23:37,876 --> 00:23:39,878 the first Bon Jovi album in four years. 450 00:23:39,962 --> 00:23:42,381 I think that if anything, this album was a, a, a bit 451 00:23:42,464 --> 00:23:43,924 of a soul cleansing for me. 452 00:23:44,299 --> 00:23:45,884 That record cover, I think says it all. 453 00:23:45,968 --> 00:23:48,512 And it brought us back to where we needed to be 454 00:23:48,595 --> 00:23:50,347 as, as people and friends. 455 00:23:50,430 --> 00:23:51,682 We come together as a unit. 456 00:23:51,765 --> 00:23:53,725 It is the beginning of Bon Jovi Management. 457 00:23:53,809 --> 00:23:55,227 It is turning 30. 458 00:23:55,894 --> 00:23:57,896 It's the second chapter in the life of the band. 459 00:23:59,189 --> 00:24:00,941 ♪ I got a heart ♪ 460 00:24:01,024 --> 00:24:02,734 ♪ And courage built ♪ 461 00:24:02,818 --> 00:24:05,112 ♪ And I won't let go ♪ 462 00:24:05,195 --> 00:24:10,117 ♪ What we need right now is soul ♪ 463 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,910 I haven't asked the all-important question yet, 464 00:24:11,994 --> 00:24:13,036 of course, have I? 465 00:24:13,871 --> 00:24:14,955 About the hair. 466 00:24:15,038 --> 00:24:16,456 Let's talk about your hair. 467 00:24:16,540 --> 00:24:17,624 -Oh. -Oh, okay. 468 00:24:18,166 --> 00:24:20,752 Just naturally thought, you know, I was gonna cut my hair. 469 00:24:20,836 --> 00:24:23,505 I had no idea it was gonna be all over the television news 470 00:24:23,589 --> 00:24:26,508 and CNN and, you know, like it was some kind of big deal. 471 00:24:26,592 --> 00:24:27,968 These are important questions, aren't they? 472 00:24:28,051 --> 00:24:30,220 -Important questions, oh, yeah. -Watching the presidential election, 473 00:24:30,304 --> 00:24:32,723 and then, "Did Jon Bon Jovi have a haircut or not?" 474 00:24:32,806 --> 00:24:34,266 -Very important question. 475 00:24:34,683 --> 00:24:37,477 Keep the Faith was something that's brand new. 476 00:24:37,561 --> 00:24:39,354 It's a, it's a fresh start. 477 00:24:40,147 --> 00:24:42,733 That band evolved as they went along. 478 00:24:43,233 --> 00:24:45,944 They saw the world, and they wrote about what they saw. 479 00:24:46,361 --> 00:24:49,114 It was stuff that mattered to them. 480 00:24:49,198 --> 00:24:52,492 What this one offered me, in having more time off, 481 00:24:52,576 --> 00:24:54,286 was the idea that I got to live life, 482 00:24:54,369 --> 00:24:56,330 therefore, there was more to draw from. 483 00:24:56,413 --> 00:24:58,957 It's definitely Bon Jovi, you know, and it's, uh... 484 00:24:59,041 --> 00:25:01,835 But we've just pushed the envelope a little further, you know? 485 00:25:01,919 --> 00:25:03,712 Thus far, Keep the Faith in Europe 486 00:25:03,795 --> 00:25:05,547 has been our biggest record ever. 487 00:25:06,048 --> 00:25:07,549 Every day you wake up and you, 488 00:25:07,633 --> 00:25:09,009 you sort of look in the mirror 489 00:25:09,092 --> 00:25:11,762 and you go, "Is this really happening?" 490 00:25:11,845 --> 00:25:13,222 No, it actually feels really great, man. 491 00:25:13,305 --> 00:25:14,765 We haven't been together for a while, man. 492 00:25:14,848 --> 00:25:18,352 And we're out there playing clubs and, uh, jamming. 493 00:25:18,435 --> 00:25:19,978 It's actually a really nice thing. 494 00:25:20,062 --> 00:25:22,314 The early '80s was the glitter, 495 00:25:22,397 --> 00:25:24,816 and then Keep the Faith was the beginning of the grit. 496 00:25:39,498 --> 00:25:42,584 We appreciate you coming down, for keeping the faith. 497 00:25:42,668 --> 00:25:45,629 Adios, my friends. Be careful driving home. 498 00:25:45,712 --> 00:25:46,755 Good night to you. 499 00:25:50,884 --> 00:25:55,639 He also came to grips with being Jon Bon Jovi. 500 00:25:56,139 --> 00:25:59,518 He had a lot of trouble being him, and for good reason. 501 00:25:59,601 --> 00:26:02,020 You know, it's-- they don't write that in the manual 502 00:26:02,354 --> 00:26:06,275 on how to become, uh, how to deal with success and fame and, 503 00:26:06,358 --> 00:26:08,193 and the trappings and everything like that, 504 00:26:08,277 --> 00:26:09,319 uh, go with it. 505 00:26:09,403 --> 00:26:12,948 You know, coming to terms with celebrity, 506 00:26:13,031 --> 00:26:16,034 coming to terms with having turned 30, coming to terms with being married, 507 00:26:16,118 --> 00:26:18,996 coming to terms with having had hits 508 00:26:19,079 --> 00:26:21,540 and saying, "Did I deserve those? 509 00:26:21,623 --> 00:26:23,166 "Did I really write number-one songs? 510 00:26:23,250 --> 00:26:24,293 Did they matter?" 511 00:26:24,376 --> 00:26:26,044 When Keep The Faith came out, 512 00:26:26,837 --> 00:26:29,006 we went to the next level outside of America. 513 00:26:33,343 --> 00:26:36,847 You could sell CDs in almost any country in the world. 514 00:26:36,930 --> 00:26:39,141 You could tour almost any country in the world, 515 00:26:39,224 --> 00:26:40,809 which is why Keep the Faith 516 00:26:40,893 --> 00:26:43,228 turned into probably one of the biggest tours the band's ever done. 517 00:26:48,692 --> 00:26:51,069 When we toured that record as hard as we did 518 00:26:51,486 --> 00:26:53,488 and, and it did as well as we did, 519 00:26:53,572 --> 00:26:55,115 there was a real feeling of accomplishment 520 00:26:55,199 --> 00:26:59,036 having entered the '90s in such a great way. 521 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,204 You know, when, when a lot 522 00:27:00,287 --> 00:27:02,873 of our peers unfortunately weren't doing as well. 523 00:27:07,876 --> 00:27:11,048 Next, ladies and gentlemen, we have three fine young men from Seattle. 524 00:27:11,131 --> 00:27:12,382 That moment in time for us, 525 00:27:12,466 --> 00:27:14,301 so after all this, you know, you came down, 526 00:27:14,384 --> 00:27:18,639 you dusted off your body going, oof, 527 00:27:19,431 --> 00:27:20,807 then all of a sudden grunge. 528 00:27:20,891 --> 00:27:23,060 Here, they are, Nirvana. 529 00:27:30,526 --> 00:27:33,237 Finally tonight, are you up on the latest hot trend in music? 530 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,030 Are you into "The Grunge"? 531 00:27:35,113 --> 00:27:37,491 It is a raw, gritty sound born in Seattle. 532 00:27:37,824 --> 00:27:40,035 It's become so popular that Seattle has suddenly become 533 00:27:40,118 --> 00:27:42,996 the country's new hot breeding ground for rock stars. 534 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,499 It's true that there really is a big Seattle scene 535 00:27:45,582 --> 00:27:46,583 happening right now. 536 00:27:46,667 --> 00:27:48,252 America was tough for us at that point, 537 00:27:48,335 --> 00:27:50,254 because we were popular, 538 00:27:50,337 --> 00:27:51,630 they're alternative. 539 00:27:51,713 --> 00:27:52,965 They hated everything popular. 540 00:27:53,048 --> 00:27:55,968 Most people think that a band like Bon Jovi 541 00:27:56,051 --> 00:27:57,386 is over with at that point in time. 542 00:27:57,469 --> 00:27:58,804 A lot has changed in the music world 543 00:27:58,887 --> 00:28:01,056 since the band's last concert tour four years ago. 544 00:28:01,139 --> 00:28:03,767 The charts are now filled with country and Seattle grunge, 545 00:28:03,851 --> 00:28:06,019 alternative rock like Dinosaur Jr. 546 00:28:06,562 --> 00:28:09,481 But Bon Jovi remains confident of a strong comeback. 547 00:28:09,565 --> 00:28:11,233 One thing I, I don't want to ever do 548 00:28:11,316 --> 00:28:14,194 is be influenced by current fads or fashions. 549 00:28:52,691 --> 00:28:56,278 So we are two weeks today, 550 00:28:57,196 --> 00:28:59,239 uh, since I've had the operation. 551 00:29:03,577 --> 00:29:05,537 I did everything I could holistically. 552 00:29:05,621 --> 00:29:08,790 I did everything I possibly could to get back to health. 553 00:29:09,833 --> 00:29:14,755 Lasers, acupuncture, vitamins, collagen, exercise. 554 00:29:14,838 --> 00:29:15,923 I did it all. 555 00:29:18,926 --> 00:29:23,430 I sound worse than I feel, than I am. 556 00:29:24,181 --> 00:29:26,892 It's two weeks. It's gonna take some time. 557 00:29:29,853 --> 00:29:32,481 This is good compared to what it was a week ago. 558 00:29:33,023 --> 00:29:37,444 It was taxing to speak, but I wasn't distraught. 559 00:29:39,738 --> 00:29:41,615 I do nothing. I have coffee. 560 00:29:41,698 --> 00:29:44,201 I, I walk on the treadmill. 561 00:29:44,284 --> 00:29:46,745 I listen to cassettes for three, four hours a day. 562 00:29:47,746 --> 00:29:49,665 The guys have all been checking in on me. 563 00:29:50,791 --> 00:29:52,751 And interestingly enough, you know, 564 00:29:52,835 --> 00:29:55,045 going through their own physical ailments. 565 00:29:55,128 --> 00:29:56,922 So it's interesting, like, mortality has entered 566 00:29:57,005 --> 00:29:59,508 the, the, the frame for the first time. 567 00:30:00,843 --> 00:30:02,052 Did you see the Elvis movie? 568 00:30:03,846 --> 00:30:04,888 I saw the Elvis movie. 569 00:30:05,180 --> 00:30:07,057 I loved the Elvis movie. 570 00:30:07,641 --> 00:30:10,686 I realized how many things that I'd forgotten, 571 00:30:11,103 --> 00:30:14,815 but it was very conscious of in my career that I had lifted from Elvis. 572 00:30:15,482 --> 00:30:20,529 And how many things in that movie touched my life directly. 573 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,326 Lisa Marie came to see me recording Young Guns. 574 00:30:26,410 --> 00:30:27,703 She was a kid. 575 00:30:28,078 --> 00:30:31,957 Priscilla had called me to do something after he had passed, which I didn't do. 576 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,251 We met the Colonel. 577 00:30:34,835 --> 00:30:37,212 The Colonel said to Doc McGee, 578 00:30:37,296 --> 00:30:38,797 "How do you make any money 579 00:30:39,256 --> 00:30:41,091 on five of them there Bon Jovis?" 580 00:30:42,384 --> 00:30:44,261 Which I think is one of the great quotes ever. 581 00:30:45,179 --> 00:30:47,055 And then you forgot how great he was. 582 00:30:47,681 --> 00:30:49,016 But he was young. 583 00:30:51,476 --> 00:30:52,978 He was 42 when he died, 584 00:30:55,189 --> 00:30:58,233 and yet he could sing right till the end. 585 00:30:58,317 --> 00:30:59,651 Never lost his voice. 586 00:30:59,735 --> 00:31:01,278 Lost everything else but his voice. 587 00:31:10,370 --> 00:31:15,083 I'd rather be me putting the pieces back together 588 00:31:15,751 --> 00:31:18,086 than have been him and burning out 589 00:31:18,170 --> 00:31:19,838 at 40 and being done. 590 00:31:20,631 --> 00:31:22,841 I've done a lot of living between 40 and 60, 591 00:31:23,342 --> 00:31:25,385 and it's all been phenomenal. 592 00:31:28,931 --> 00:31:30,933 Alright, wanna go see the basement? 593 00:31:34,353 --> 00:31:36,021 I wanna find, uh... 594 00:31:41,235 --> 00:31:43,654 Those are Slippery When Wet outtakes. 595 00:31:43,737 --> 00:31:46,990 I have to be honest with you, I've been archiving for a year and a half, 596 00:31:47,658 --> 00:31:49,326 and I haven't given it an hour. 597 00:31:49,952 --> 00:31:51,578 I've left it to everybody else to do. 598 00:31:52,538 --> 00:31:53,997 Having nothing else to do, 599 00:31:55,791 --> 00:31:58,502 I'm down with what's left of the archiving, 600 00:31:58,585 --> 00:32:00,963 which is, in my case, the cassettes. 601 00:32:02,506 --> 00:32:05,551 Here's a song that was lost, 602 00:32:06,426 --> 00:32:07,970 and it's called Cadillac Man. 603 00:32:08,053 --> 00:32:10,097 And Richie and I wrote this for a movie. 604 00:32:10,764 --> 00:32:12,558 It was a Robin Williams movie. 605 00:32:14,309 --> 00:32:17,604 It's a good song. It should have, could have made a record. 606 00:32:18,188 --> 00:32:20,023 We-- this has been lost forever. 607 00:32:25,904 --> 00:32:26,905 There it is. 608 00:32:30,117 --> 00:32:31,159 Let's take it from the top. 609 00:32:32,452 --> 00:32:34,621 Take it from the top, maybe this is it then. 610 00:32:34,705 --> 00:32:36,290 Not only-- that's in the tag, 611 00:32:36,373 --> 00:32:37,666 only in the tag is there's access. 612 00:32:37,749 --> 00:32:39,084 -It's not in the intro. - No, no. 613 00:32:39,168 --> 00:32:40,169 Take it from the top. 614 00:32:40,252 --> 00:32:41,920 It shouldn't, should do the same thing twice. 615 00:32:58,812 --> 00:33:01,315 ♪ I'm the king of the road ♪ 616 00:33:01,398 --> 00:33:05,485 ♪ Ain't got no castle or no place to call home ♪ 617 00:33:05,819 --> 00:33:09,323 ♪ See the world from behind this old wheel ♪ 618 00:33:09,406 --> 00:33:13,535 ♪ Chopping away from the feelings I feel ♪ 619 00:33:14,411 --> 00:33:16,955 ♪ Desire cuts like a knife ♪ 620 00:33:17,456 --> 00:33:18,916 ♪ I'll leave you bleeding ♪ 621 00:33:18,999 --> 00:33:22,002 ♪ But I'll make you feel alright ♪ 622 00:33:22,085 --> 00:33:25,088 ♪ I love you but don't hold me too tight ♪ 623 00:33:25,172 --> 00:33:26,840 ♪ Don't put up a fight ♪ 624 00:33:26,924 --> 00:33:29,176 ♪ When these wheels gotta roll ♪ 625 00:33:30,594 --> 00:33:33,055 -♪ Ain't nobody ♪ -♪ Ain't nobody ♪ 626 00:33:33,138 --> 00:33:37,392 ♪ There ain't no savior gonna save my soul ♪ 627 00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:41,063 ♪ And I've been searching ♪ 628 00:33:41,522 --> 00:33:44,691 ♪ For a rainbow and a pot of gold ♪ 629 00:33:44,775 --> 00:33:46,360 ♪ That's mine to hold ♪ 630 00:33:46,443 --> 00:33:48,195 ♪ That can't be bought ♪ 631 00:33:48,278 --> 00:33:52,199 ♪ Or can't be sold ♪ 632 00:33:52,282 --> 00:33:54,284 ♪ I'm a liar, I'm a lover ♪ 633 00:33:54,368 --> 00:33:56,203 ♪ I'm a lawyer's tongue ♪ 634 00:33:56,286 --> 00:33:59,831 ♪ I'm a trick, but I ain't nobody's son ♪ 635 00:34:00,165 --> 00:34:03,293 ♪ 'Fore you get too close, you'd best understand ♪ 636 00:34:03,377 --> 00:34:07,130 ♪ I'm a Cadillac Man ♪ 637 00:34:18,183 --> 00:34:19,726 You know, for a song that was unreleased, 638 00:34:19,810 --> 00:34:20,978 it's pretty good. 639 00:34:21,061 --> 00:34:22,104 It's complete... 640 00:34:24,273 --> 00:34:27,192 and a hell of a find for the archives. 641 00:34:31,363 --> 00:34:34,074 I think that that's gonna make people very happy. 642 00:34:38,287 --> 00:34:41,665 Do you think that musicians, songwriters, 643 00:34:41,748 --> 00:34:44,293 do you think you have any responsibility to kids today to, 644 00:34:44,877 --> 00:34:47,129 to tell them like, uh, you know, 645 00:34:47,212 --> 00:34:49,381 to participate in anti-drug messages or that kind of thing? 646 00:34:49,464 --> 00:34:50,841 Do you think that's a real responsibility? 647 00:34:50,924 --> 00:34:52,384 Or do you think it's an individual choice? 648 00:34:52,467 --> 00:34:55,804 You know, I personally don't believe in, you know, drugs. 649 00:34:55,888 --> 00:34:58,724 So I was asked, I said no, you know. 650 00:34:58,807 --> 00:35:01,143 I'd had a couple of minor bad experiences 651 00:35:01,226 --> 00:35:02,811 as a younger, younger, younger kid. 652 00:35:02,895 --> 00:35:04,688 So I really was turned off to drugs. 653 00:35:05,981 --> 00:35:07,107 Drinking, sure. 654 00:35:07,191 --> 00:35:09,193 Um, but I really didn't do any drugs. 655 00:35:09,276 --> 00:35:10,569 And I was the singer, 656 00:35:10,652 --> 00:35:12,613 so it would affect the singing. 657 00:35:15,115 --> 00:35:19,411 Uh, and in the meantime, others were excessively doing drugs 658 00:35:19,494 --> 00:35:22,956 and, and alcohol to, to the point where they had to get it together. 659 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:25,459 I was definitely drinking too much. 660 00:35:25,542 --> 00:35:28,212 And the band just said, "Tic, you gotta-- 661 00:35:28,545 --> 00:35:29,796 Look, you might kill yourself." 662 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,882 So I checked myself into a place. 663 00:35:32,216 --> 00:35:35,093 'Cause I intend to drink myself all the way to Osaka. 664 00:35:35,177 --> 00:35:37,137 Al was the greatest character. 665 00:35:37,221 --> 00:35:40,140 He was a laugh riot and a great guy. 666 00:35:40,224 --> 00:35:43,060 Just a wonderful, warm human being. 667 00:35:43,143 --> 00:35:44,937 Unfortunately, Alec, you know, 668 00:35:45,354 --> 00:35:48,941 the particular drugs he was doing, kind of burns out your mind a little bit. 669 00:35:52,236 --> 00:35:54,154 He caught a lot of shit from Jon, 670 00:35:54,238 --> 00:35:57,241 because he was, he was indulging a bit. 671 00:35:57,324 --> 00:35:59,826 I remember, like, having to go over and, you know, "Oh!" 672 00:35:59,910 --> 00:36:03,163 Accidentally, I just kicked that glass of whiskey over on stage. 673 00:36:04,248 --> 00:36:07,167 That was the first foray into, like, addiction 674 00:36:07,668 --> 00:36:09,545 where, you know, Alec went into rehab, 675 00:36:10,128 --> 00:36:13,423 because he was drinking and snorting speed. 676 00:36:13,507 --> 00:36:15,217 By the early '90s, 677 00:36:15,300 --> 00:36:18,303 Al wasn't in a physical condition 678 00:36:18,387 --> 00:36:20,138 to, to continue on. 679 00:36:20,222 --> 00:36:22,474 I mean, here's the guy that put the band together 680 00:36:22,558 --> 00:36:24,434 with the other guys. 681 00:36:24,518 --> 00:36:26,937 And here he was, like, he would have to write down, like, 682 00:36:27,020 --> 00:36:30,732 the, the chords, like A, A, D, A. 683 00:36:30,816 --> 00:36:32,442 You're like, "Really?" 684 00:36:32,818 --> 00:36:34,736 You know, he wasn't able to, to keep up. 685 00:36:34,820 --> 00:36:37,155 So we, you know, we had to let him go, 686 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,491 and it wasn't an easy conversation. 687 00:36:39,575 --> 00:36:41,869 And that's when it's a bitch to be the boss. 688 00:36:49,042 --> 00:36:50,502 Hi, I'm Kurt Loder with MTV News. 689 00:36:50,586 --> 00:36:52,754 Up in New Jersey meanwhile, Bon Jovi has just suffered 690 00:36:52,838 --> 00:36:55,215 the first personnel loss in the band's 12-year career 691 00:36:55,299 --> 00:36:57,176 with the departure, a friendly one he says, 692 00:36:57,259 --> 00:36:59,261 of bassist Alec John Such. 693 00:36:59,344 --> 00:37:02,139 He's being replaced at least temporarily by one Hugh McDonald 694 00:37:02,222 --> 00:37:03,640 as the group continues work on a new album 695 00:37:03,724 --> 00:37:04,766 in Bearsville, New York. 696 00:37:04,850 --> 00:37:05,893 That should be done by spring. 697 00:37:05,976 --> 00:37:09,771 Hugh McDonald was in the band before there was a band. 698 00:37:19,865 --> 00:37:22,242 And I said, "Look, Hugh is the guy, he's been with us, 699 00:37:22,826 --> 00:37:24,786 "and Hugh and I are like bread and butter. 700 00:37:24,870 --> 00:37:27,956 "We work together, and, uh, he should be the guy 701 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,583 that takes Alec's place." 702 00:37:29,666 --> 00:37:30,959 Wake up, this is your life. 703 00:37:31,043 --> 00:37:32,085 Ahh! 704 00:37:36,173 --> 00:37:37,633 In the studio, I existed. 705 00:37:37,716 --> 00:37:39,927 Outside of the studio, I did not exist. 706 00:37:40,427 --> 00:37:43,263 Alec played to the best of his ability, 707 00:37:44,139 --> 00:37:47,226 but in truth, the man behind the curtain was Hugh. 708 00:37:47,643 --> 00:37:48,852 The reason we became, you know, 709 00:37:48,936 --> 00:37:50,938 such a better band by the third album 710 00:37:51,021 --> 00:37:54,399 was because Hugh was the one playing the bass. 711 00:37:54,816 --> 00:37:56,276 That famous bass line on, 712 00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:59,988 on Living On A Prayer was developed at his fingertips. 713 00:38:00,489 --> 00:38:04,159 The work that was coming out was stuff that I was proud of. 714 00:38:05,494 --> 00:38:07,412 That was hard because I couldn't 715 00:38:07,871 --> 00:38:10,290 really say, "Yeah, that's me." 716 00:38:12,125 --> 00:38:17,047 I was never treated any less by anybody in the band. 717 00:38:17,130 --> 00:38:22,678 It was strictly as far as the public persona... 718 00:38:24,596 --> 00:38:26,014 I was a side man. 719 00:38:45,450 --> 00:38:46,910 In '95, '96, we were playing 720 00:38:46,994 --> 00:38:50,122 all the biggest stadiums in the world, multiple nights. 721 00:38:50,205 --> 00:38:52,875 Uh, you know, I think it was three nights at Wembley Stadium, 722 00:38:52,958 --> 00:38:54,418 things like that around the globe. 723 00:38:54,501 --> 00:38:56,128 When he first asked me to do it, 724 00:38:56,211 --> 00:38:59,423 I remember asking him, "Am I doing the tour?" 725 00:39:00,090 --> 00:39:03,552 Then he said, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 726 00:39:03,635 --> 00:39:06,722 You're-- Yeah, you're doing the tour, yeah." 727 00:39:06,805 --> 00:39:08,724 Are you able to rock and roll? 728 00:39:11,727 --> 00:39:15,314 We became like a really good band by '94, 729 00:39:15,397 --> 00:39:19,359 and, uh, by '95 when Huey toured with us, you know, we were, 730 00:39:19,443 --> 00:39:21,320 we were a kick-ass live band. 731 00:39:21,403 --> 00:39:23,447 On that note, help me out, Huey. 732 00:39:38,879 --> 00:39:42,299 ♪ Mother, mother, tell your children ♪ 733 00:39:42,382 --> 00:39:46,094 When we did, uh, Wembley, I see that now, 734 00:39:46,178 --> 00:39:48,055 and it's, it amazes me. 735 00:39:48,639 --> 00:39:51,266 'Cause I couldn't take it all in at the time. 736 00:39:51,350 --> 00:39:53,727 It was like, "Don't fuck up," you know? 737 00:39:53,810 --> 00:39:57,147 To sell out three nights at Wembley at London, 738 00:39:57,231 --> 00:39:59,608 the last three shows ever to be performed there, 739 00:39:59,691 --> 00:40:01,401 was absolutely monumental. 740 00:40:02,694 --> 00:40:06,323 ♪ I am broken like an arrow ♪ 741 00:40:07,157 --> 00:40:08,825 ♪ Forgive me ♪ 742 00:40:08,909 --> 00:40:11,328 ♪ Forgive your wayward son ♪ 743 00:40:11,411 --> 00:40:14,790 ♪ Everybody needs somebody to love ♪ 744 00:40:14,873 --> 00:40:15,916 ♪ Mother, mother ♪ 745 00:40:15,999 --> 00:40:18,085 ♪ Everybody needs somebody to love ♪ 746 00:40:18,168 --> 00:40:20,420 ♪ Please, believe me ♪ 747 00:40:20,504 --> 00:40:22,923 When you look out at 80,000 people, 748 00:40:23,423 --> 00:40:24,675 it's a fuckin' lot. 749 00:40:24,758 --> 00:40:27,886 And then the energy of everybody singing and then they're there for you. 750 00:40:27,970 --> 00:40:30,889 And it was, uh, it's awesome. 751 00:40:33,350 --> 00:40:35,727 ♪ You gotta keep the faith ♪ 752 00:40:35,811 --> 00:40:37,104 ♪ Faith ♪ 753 00:40:38,355 --> 00:40:40,607 And I remember, like, Jon had a song, Always, 754 00:40:40,691 --> 00:40:41,733 and that was the big hit. 755 00:40:41,817 --> 00:40:42,943 It was a huge hit. 756 00:40:43,569 --> 00:40:48,156 Always to me was like, "This was gonna kill our career." 757 00:40:48,740 --> 00:40:50,659 And I was wrong. 758 00:40:52,411 --> 00:40:53,495 We went to all stadiums. 759 00:40:53,579 --> 00:40:55,122 We were playing like giant stadium every night. 760 00:40:55,205 --> 00:40:57,833 It's like 70,000, 80,000, 70... around the world. 761 00:41:06,466 --> 00:41:09,136 You realize that 762 00:41:09,595 --> 00:41:11,597 all these other people have faded away. 763 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:16,476 For them, they're connecting with the performer 764 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,729 and the lyric of that song. 765 00:41:19,897 --> 00:41:21,899 ♪ This Romeo is bleeding ♪ 766 00:41:23,442 --> 00:41:25,485 ♪ But you can't see his blood ♪ 767 00:41:25,569 --> 00:41:27,654 And it's a one-to-one thing. 768 00:41:27,738 --> 00:41:31,366 You can't fake that, you can't make it happen. 769 00:41:31,825 --> 00:41:32,868 It's an organic thing. 770 00:41:33,702 --> 00:41:35,871 ♪ It's been raining since you left me ♪ 771 00:41:36,288 --> 00:41:39,541 ♪ Well, I'm drowning in the flood ♪ 772 00:41:39,625 --> 00:41:43,587 There's a difference between playing an instrument 773 00:41:44,338 --> 00:41:48,050 and your body and voice being the instrument, 774 00:41:48,133 --> 00:41:50,511 that is not only singing melodies, 775 00:41:50,594 --> 00:41:52,221 but putting out words 776 00:41:52,304 --> 00:41:55,182 and also acting out the songs with your body 777 00:41:55,265 --> 00:41:58,310 so that the last person in the last row 778 00:41:58,393 --> 00:42:00,938 of the stadium feels like you're singing to them. 779 00:42:01,021 --> 00:42:06,527 ♪ Yeah, I will love you ♪ 780 00:42:07,653 --> 00:42:10,614 ♪ Baby ♪ 781 00:42:11,865 --> 00:42:14,117 ♪ Always ♪ 782 00:42:14,201 --> 00:42:17,663 Lead singers make a commitment to the narrative. 783 00:42:17,746 --> 00:42:18,997 They'll tell you that story. 784 00:42:19,957 --> 00:42:23,168 How are they gonna tell you so it's undeniable for the listener? 785 00:42:24,461 --> 00:42:25,838 That's really hard. 786 00:42:26,171 --> 00:42:28,048 You're out there, you're naked, 787 00:42:28,465 --> 00:42:29,800 on the tight wire, 788 00:42:30,425 --> 00:42:32,845 and you, you better fuckin' have it together. 789 00:42:33,512 --> 00:42:36,723 ♪ Are memories of a different life ♪ 790 00:42:36,807 --> 00:42:38,392 ♪ Some that made us laugh ♪ 791 00:42:38,475 --> 00:42:40,185 ♪ Some that made us cry ♪ 792 00:42:40,269 --> 00:42:43,605 ♪ One that made you have to say goodbye ♪ 793 00:42:43,689 --> 00:42:46,149 ♪ What I'd give to run my fingers, baby ♪ 794 00:42:46,233 --> 00:42:47,818 ♪ Through your hair ♪ 795 00:42:48,735 --> 00:42:50,779 No matter how big Bon Jovi have become, 796 00:42:50,863 --> 00:42:53,156 they still believe in the thrill of playing live. 797 00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:56,159 Let's join the band as their world tour hits Europe. 798 00:42:58,370 --> 00:43:00,539 Probably just a thrill of the, of the chase. 799 00:43:00,622 --> 00:43:03,000 You know, just, just the idea of can you do it again? 800 00:43:03,083 --> 00:43:04,751 Can you do it better than you did it last time? 801 00:43:04,835 --> 00:43:06,503 We took 11 months to write the record, 802 00:43:07,254 --> 00:43:09,047 and that's a long time by our standards. 803 00:43:09,756 --> 00:43:15,053 We wanted it to be a, a real cross-section of ideas. 804 00:43:15,137 --> 00:43:17,014 There's, there's an amazing amount of stuff 805 00:43:17,097 --> 00:43:19,016 that goes into songwriting when you're a team. 806 00:43:19,558 --> 00:43:22,186 I was the man that Jon talked to. 807 00:43:22,269 --> 00:43:25,063 I spent more time with him than his wife. 808 00:43:25,147 --> 00:43:29,026 Richie is, is the perfect foil for me 809 00:43:30,068 --> 00:43:31,737 because we think alike. 810 00:43:31,820 --> 00:43:36,241 He knows when I can't express myself, what I'm thinking. 811 00:43:36,325 --> 00:43:39,620 There was not a lot of people in his life, and probably still isn't, 812 00:43:39,703 --> 00:43:41,246 that would be an honest mirror. 813 00:43:42,873 --> 00:43:45,292 Like I would tell him, I'd go, 814 00:43:45,375 --> 00:43:46,960 "You're gonna sing that, really? 815 00:43:47,628 --> 00:43:49,213 People are gonna throw shit at you." 816 00:43:49,296 --> 00:43:52,257 And I think that was one of the, uh, parts 817 00:43:52,341 --> 00:43:53,759 that made us a good partnership. 818 00:43:55,969 --> 00:43:57,596 You know, people widely know me 819 00:43:57,679 --> 00:44:01,266 as just the hired gun guitar player, 820 00:44:01,350 --> 00:44:03,435 but no, I write lyrics, melodies, 821 00:44:04,102 --> 00:44:06,021 come up with concepts for songs. 822 00:44:06,438 --> 00:44:09,274 Half of my job was to not say that, which was fine. 823 00:44:09,358 --> 00:44:11,068 Whatever was gonna work for the, 824 00:44:11,485 --> 00:44:12,653 for the good of the organization. 825 00:44:12,736 --> 00:44:16,615 You have two totally different kinds of singers in Jon and Richie. 826 00:44:19,743 --> 00:44:21,787 Richie was able to bridge, 827 00:44:22,788 --> 00:44:25,499 you know, not just being a really good lead singer, 828 00:44:25,582 --> 00:44:30,087 but being this amazing singer with Jon. 829 00:44:30,587 --> 00:44:33,757 The spontaneity between him and Richie on stage 830 00:44:33,841 --> 00:44:36,385 is first class, first class. 831 00:44:41,515 --> 00:44:47,020 Taiwan, Taipei, postcards from the road. 832 00:44:48,564 --> 00:44:50,858 One, two, three. 833 00:44:51,984 --> 00:44:53,819 In the elevator on the way to the press conference. 834 00:44:53,902 --> 00:44:55,070 Singapore. 835 00:44:55,612 --> 00:44:57,406 - Bon Jovi! 836 00:44:58,490 --> 00:45:01,493 How y'all doing? Happy to be here at the start of our world tour. 837 00:45:02,077 --> 00:45:03,537 Here we are, Bangkok. 838 00:45:05,247 --> 00:45:08,584 Ladies and gentlemen at home, police escorts everywhere we go. 839 00:45:18,844 --> 00:45:21,096 I remember the band coming together 840 00:45:21,180 --> 00:45:22,681 during the course of the tour, 841 00:45:22,764 --> 00:45:26,602 and we were in agreement that this is right, 842 00:45:26,685 --> 00:45:29,188 and, and the decision that was made is right, 843 00:45:29,271 --> 00:45:31,607 and the record is right and the touring is right. 844 00:45:31,690 --> 00:45:33,233 And the way we're going about it, 845 00:45:33,317 --> 00:45:37,154 and the ownership of it with self-management, it was good. 846 00:45:37,237 --> 00:45:39,489 And egos started to dissipate. 847 00:45:39,573 --> 00:45:42,242 We're very excited about the tour, the new album. 848 00:45:42,326 --> 00:45:43,493 And, uh... 849 00:46:03,514 --> 00:46:06,558 Aww, look, look, look. 850 00:46:07,392 --> 00:46:09,770 Oh. Ohh. 851 00:46:20,197 --> 00:46:22,783 Steph was born. She was the first baby in the band. 852 00:46:23,450 --> 00:46:25,285 She'd be on the road with us. 853 00:46:25,369 --> 00:46:26,954 Dorothea would be out on the road. 854 00:46:29,915 --> 00:46:31,583 When, uh, Stephanie was first born, 855 00:46:31,667 --> 00:46:33,752 she was three weeks old and she had a passport. 856 00:46:33,836 --> 00:46:36,630 But when she-- he was touring America, we made a decision 857 00:46:36,713 --> 00:46:38,632 that, you know, we wanted the family to be together. 858 00:46:38,715 --> 00:46:40,300 And that I took her on the road. 859 00:46:41,051 --> 00:46:43,136 I think that he liked having the kids there. 860 00:46:43,220 --> 00:46:45,597 I know that it made him happy to have his family with him. 861 00:46:49,434 --> 00:46:53,188 My kids saw, like, 50 countries by the time they were two. 862 00:46:53,981 --> 00:46:55,274 You know, 'cause you just brought 'em, 863 00:46:55,357 --> 00:46:57,025 once we could tour, you know, we all had our family 864 00:46:57,109 --> 00:46:58,569 and brought these little babies around, 865 00:46:58,986 --> 00:47:00,571 and, uh, until they went to school. 866 00:47:05,951 --> 00:47:07,077 Well, we grew up. 867 00:47:08,287 --> 00:47:11,331 Everybody had kids, got married, things went down. 868 00:47:11,832 --> 00:47:15,002 Uh, it definitely was different than the '80s. 869 00:47:15,085 --> 00:47:16,211 -Daddy, can I see? - Yeah. 870 00:47:16,295 --> 00:47:18,672 It was the polar opposite of the '80s, 871 00:47:18,755 --> 00:47:20,340 but it was like just a different phase. 872 00:47:20,674 --> 00:47:22,342 Do you see you upside down? 873 00:47:22,426 --> 00:47:24,011 -Uh-huh. 874 00:47:27,723 --> 00:47:29,641 The ball is beginning to move. 875 00:47:30,058 --> 00:47:31,185 They can feel it. 876 00:47:31,518 --> 00:47:33,478 In 47 seconds, 877 00:47:34,188 --> 00:47:37,107 it will be 2000. 878 00:47:38,066 --> 00:47:41,987 In 10, nine, eight, seven, 879 00:47:42,070 --> 00:47:44,489 six, five, four, 880 00:47:44,573 --> 00:47:47,242 three, two, one, 881 00:47:47,326 --> 00:47:49,203 happy 2000! 882 00:47:51,163 --> 00:47:52,831 A rebirth happens again. 883 00:47:52,915 --> 00:47:55,709 Bon Jovi hasn't released a studio album in five years, 884 00:47:55,792 --> 00:47:57,419 but the boys from Jersey are back. 885 00:47:58,253 --> 00:47:59,922 It feels great to be contemporary again, you know? 886 00:48:00,005 --> 00:48:01,381 I mean, we really never went away actually. 887 00:48:01,465 --> 00:48:02,508 - No. -You know? 888 00:48:02,591 --> 00:48:03,926 Just making good music, that's it. 889 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,887 The look, the sound. 890 00:48:06,970 --> 00:48:09,890 I mean, the music business has changed dramatically. 891 00:48:10,933 --> 00:48:13,227 And then 2000 happened, and, you know, 892 00:48:13,310 --> 00:48:15,896 It's My Life is-- we're the biggest thing on the planet again. 893 00:48:15,979 --> 00:48:18,690 And everybody's like, "They're back!" and we're like, "We never went away." 894 00:48:26,573 --> 00:48:30,661 ♪ This ain't a song for the broken-hearted ♪ 895 00:48:32,704 --> 00:48:35,999 Oh, we are up and running on the World Wide Web. 896 00:48:36,083 --> 00:48:37,167 Hello, everybody. 897 00:48:37,251 --> 00:48:40,170 Last night, Bon Jovi webcast a live performance 898 00:48:40,254 --> 00:48:42,589 to celebrate their upcoming CD, Crush. 899 00:48:43,590 --> 00:48:45,717 What I think this record says quite simply 900 00:48:45,801 --> 00:48:49,221 is A, we're having fun, but B, we're comfortable in our shoes. 901 00:48:49,304 --> 00:48:50,973 ♪ Shout it out loud ♪ 902 00:48:51,723 --> 00:48:54,226 ♪ It's my life ♪ 903 00:48:54,309 --> 00:48:56,645 ♪ It's now or never ♪ 904 00:48:57,521 --> 00:49:00,816 ♪ I ain't gonna live forever ♪ 905 00:49:01,275 --> 00:49:03,277 But it's a song called It's My Life 906 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,905 that once again changes the landscape for the band. 907 00:49:06,989 --> 00:49:08,448 We're on the top of the charts 908 00:49:08,532 --> 00:49:10,325 filling up stadiums, 909 00:49:10,409 --> 00:49:12,244 and we were at that next level. 910 00:49:12,786 --> 00:49:15,956 Jon and I were 38 years old, you know, we were just about looking at 40, 911 00:49:16,039 --> 00:49:18,792 which you're like, at that time is an old man. 912 00:49:18,876 --> 00:49:20,377 You know, you're like, "Oh, my God, 40." 913 00:49:20,460 --> 00:49:23,088 That is, like, another Bon Jovi anthem. 914 00:49:23,547 --> 00:49:25,007 And it's positive. 915 00:49:25,090 --> 00:49:27,009 It's My Life didn't sound like anything that came before it. 916 00:49:27,676 --> 00:49:30,262 And it, and it gives life to a band 917 00:49:30,345 --> 00:49:32,514 that is different from the pack. 918 00:49:32,598 --> 00:49:36,602 ♪ This is for ones who stood their ground ♪ 919 00:49:38,145 --> 00:49:40,939 It's My Life led a whole new generation of, 920 00:49:41,023 --> 00:49:43,483 of fans into the, into the band. 921 00:49:44,234 --> 00:49:46,320 People that thought that Crush was the first record. 922 00:49:46,403 --> 00:49:49,239 We have a whole new generation of fans 923 00:49:49,323 --> 00:49:53,035 that didn't know anything exists, existed before It's My Life. 924 00:49:53,118 --> 00:49:55,454 We just wanted to, you know, get out there again 925 00:49:55,537 --> 00:49:57,956 and be who we were in a, 926 00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,126 in a contemporary kind of a way. 927 00:50:01,210 --> 00:50:04,046 ♪ It's my life ♪ 928 00:50:16,683 --> 00:50:19,269 We were writing songs for what became Bounce. 929 00:50:19,353 --> 00:50:22,022 Um, it was meant to be, uh... 930 00:50:23,482 --> 00:50:26,777 an extension of Crush, but it became something more. 931 00:50:27,361 --> 00:50:31,156 Um, Richie was at my house in New Jersey. 932 00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:33,325 I remember I was in the gym that morning. 933 00:50:33,408 --> 00:50:34,743 It was a beautiful Tuesday. 934 00:50:34,826 --> 00:50:38,622 Everybody that was here knows the sky was so blue 935 00:50:38,705 --> 00:50:41,834 and crystal clear, and it was a gorgeous September day. 936 00:50:41,917 --> 00:50:43,627 And, you know, it was that morning 937 00:50:43,710 --> 00:50:46,338 and I was intending to, to just get together with Richie, 938 00:50:46,421 --> 00:50:47,714 wake him up in a couple hours, write. 939 00:50:47,798 --> 00:50:49,174 I took the kids to school. 940 00:50:50,467 --> 00:50:51,760 -Crash. 941 00:50:51,844 --> 00:50:53,428 This just in, you were looking at, 942 00:50:53,512 --> 00:50:55,764 obviously a very disturbing live shot there. 943 00:50:55,848 --> 00:50:57,558 That is the World Trade Center... 944 00:50:57,641 --> 00:50:59,601 Growing up here, you, you saw 945 00:50:59,685 --> 00:51:01,353 the smoke rising from the towers. 946 00:51:01,436 --> 00:51:03,146 You knew people, like I'd said, 947 00:51:03,230 --> 00:51:04,773 these, these were your neighbors. 948 00:51:05,315 --> 00:51:06,900 These were my people. 949 00:51:10,237 --> 00:51:12,948 So we came together in those early days when you-- 950 00:51:13,031 --> 00:51:14,992 the telethon was coming together and I was asked, 951 00:51:15,075 --> 00:51:16,076 and we didn't hesitate. 952 00:51:17,327 --> 00:51:18,662 Thank you so much. 953 00:51:18,745 --> 00:51:21,373 Everybody watching on TV, call that telephone number. 954 00:51:21,456 --> 00:51:23,000 We'll see you, enjoy the rest of the night. 955 00:51:23,083 --> 00:51:24,376 -God bless you all. 956 00:51:24,459 --> 00:51:26,670 Obviously, both of you being from New Jersey, 957 00:51:26,753 --> 00:51:31,341 you were incredibly affected by, by September 11th. 958 00:51:31,425 --> 00:51:33,427 And I know that some of the songs 959 00:51:33,510 --> 00:51:35,304 on this new album, Bounce, 960 00:51:35,387 --> 00:51:36,513 which comes out next month... 961 00:51:36,597 --> 00:51:38,640 - Right. -...October 8th I believe, is that right? 962 00:51:38,724 --> 00:51:41,643 Um, actually deal with the events of September 11th. 963 00:51:41,727 --> 00:51:44,646 Sure, as writers, I think we'd be remiss not to write 964 00:51:44,730 --> 00:51:46,398 about what happened in our own backyard. 965 00:51:46,732 --> 00:51:50,319 Bounce, of course, not an easy record to write. 966 00:51:50,402 --> 00:51:52,321 You know, we were gonna bounce back as a, 967 00:51:52,404 --> 00:51:54,615 as a country, as a people. 968 00:51:55,157 --> 00:51:57,451 The first songs that we sat down to write 969 00:51:57,534 --> 00:52:01,705 with regards to 9/11 were, um, very, very sad. 970 00:52:01,788 --> 00:52:04,124 You know, songs that, that weren't even ever demoed 971 00:52:04,208 --> 00:52:06,168 that probably will never get out of the notebook. 972 00:52:06,251 --> 00:52:09,296 And, uh, and that's why the songs that did make it 973 00:52:09,379 --> 00:52:12,591 regarding 9/11 are those of optimism 974 00:52:12,674 --> 00:52:14,676 and hope in the face of adversity. 975 00:52:37,616 --> 00:52:39,785 A real career has its ups and downs. 976 00:52:39,868 --> 00:52:40,953 I get all that. 977 00:52:41,495 --> 00:52:42,621 You come back from injury, 978 00:52:42,704 --> 00:52:45,457 and you-you-you persevere or you don't, right? 979 00:52:45,958 --> 00:52:47,000 So... 980 00:52:48,710 --> 00:52:50,754 the end of our story won't be that I didn't try. 981 00:52:57,010 --> 00:52:59,471 And I'm-I'm-I'm optimistic, but I'm scared. 982 00:53:13,068 --> 00:53:15,612 You know, I haven't sung a song in five months. 983 00:53:18,574 --> 00:53:19,908 You can't play the Super Bowl 984 00:53:19,992 --> 00:53:22,661 when it's the first day of practice. 985 00:53:24,663 --> 00:53:28,584 But... I'm happy I did the surgery. 986 00:53:28,667 --> 00:53:30,043 I'm really, uh, you know, I'm good with it. 987 00:53:30,127 --> 00:53:31,420 I'm-I'm totally good with it. 988 00:53:33,088 --> 00:53:34,089 Happy I did it. 989 00:53:47,811 --> 00:53:49,897 I can tell you with certainty 990 00:53:50,355 --> 00:53:52,065 that I'm feeling good these days, 991 00:53:52,149 --> 00:53:53,650 which is, which is great. 992 00:53:53,734 --> 00:53:55,235 I might not be feeling as good physically, 993 00:53:55,319 --> 00:53:58,739 but mentally, um, I'm good. 994 00:54:00,782 --> 00:54:03,202 I never want to go back in that dark cave again. 995 00:54:03,285 --> 00:54:07,039 You know, the-the-the fear and the anxiety 996 00:54:07,122 --> 00:54:10,751 and the pain and everything. 997 00:54:12,085 --> 00:54:14,505 I never want to go back into that cave again. 998 00:54:14,588 --> 00:54:15,589 Never. 999 00:54:21,762 --> 00:54:22,804 One, two. 1000 00:54:38,737 --> 00:54:41,573 ♪ Ever since there was thunder ♪ 1001 00:54:42,032 --> 00:54:45,410 ♪ There's been shelter from the storm ♪ 1002 00:54:46,537 --> 00:54:50,040 ♪ A place you'd run for cover ♪ 1003 00:54:50,457 --> 00:54:54,127 ♪ 'Til the rainclouds had moved on ♪ 1004 00:54:54,753 --> 00:54:57,589 ♪ When I get that feeling ♪ 1005 00:54:58,048 --> 00:55:01,510 ♪ Before the first drop hits the ground ♪ 1006 00:55:01,593 --> 00:55:05,472 ♪ I'm asking who's gonna stop the rain ♪ 1007 00:55:05,556 --> 00:55:08,225 ♪ From falling down ♪ 1008 00:55:09,059 --> 00:55:11,103 I think that there's progress, which, you know, 1009 00:55:11,186 --> 00:55:12,771 I'm optimistic about. 1010 00:55:12,855 --> 00:55:14,106 There is progress. 1011 00:55:14,439 --> 00:55:17,901 I have the utmost confidence in, in the doctor 1012 00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:21,071 and his vocal therapists. 1013 00:55:21,446 --> 00:55:23,782 I wish that it was a light switch. 1014 00:55:23,866 --> 00:55:26,910 I wish that he'd flick the switch and because I was a good boy 1015 00:55:26,994 --> 00:55:28,996 and I did the surgery that I'm healed. 1016 00:55:29,079 --> 00:55:30,122 Ta-da! 1017 00:55:30,581 --> 00:55:34,042 ♪ Wherever there is hurtin' ♪ 1018 00:55:34,126 --> 00:55:37,629 ♪ There is healing on the way ♪ 1019 00:55:38,338 --> 00:55:41,550 ♪ Like sunshine breaking through ♪ 1020 00:55:41,633 --> 00:55:44,386 ♪ A cloudy day ♪ 1021 00:55:45,304 --> 00:55:48,807 There's moments where you go, "Whoa, there's the kid," 1022 00:55:48,891 --> 00:55:52,102 you know, there's the 20-years-ago voice. 1023 00:55:52,477 --> 00:55:53,604 It's in there. 1024 00:55:53,687 --> 00:55:56,648 So, and then it gets very tired, 1025 00:55:56,732 --> 00:55:58,317 during the course of the day or at night. 1026 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:00,694 Um, but the process is good. 1027 00:56:00,777 --> 00:56:02,654 I think the prognosis is good. 1028 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:05,657 No matter how it turns out, 1029 00:56:06,617 --> 00:56:09,036 I'll be satisfied in my heart 1030 00:56:09,703 --> 00:56:12,164 that, uh, the decision I made was right. 1031 00:56:12,247 --> 00:56:15,000 And if God forbid it, it-it doesn't work out, 1032 00:56:15,459 --> 00:56:17,461 I'll know that I did everything. 1033 00:56:17,544 --> 00:56:18,837 That didn't suck. 1034 00:56:19,338 --> 00:56:22,299 And had good people around me to, to try to make it work. 1035 00:56:23,383 --> 00:56:24,426 Okay. 1036 00:56:36,647 --> 00:56:38,357 Phew, that's enough of that. 1037 00:56:44,613 --> 00:56:46,240 We're five kids from Jersey. 1038 00:56:46,323 --> 00:56:48,242 We're not really, uh, quote-unquote 1039 00:56:48,325 --> 00:56:49,451 "The Untouchable Rock Stars." 1040 00:56:49,535 --> 00:56:50,994 We just didn't play anyone else's game. 1041 00:56:51,078 --> 00:56:53,205 There's a very, very rebellious attitude on this record. 1042 00:56:53,288 --> 00:56:54,831 There is an optimism that runs through it 1043 00:56:54,915 --> 00:56:56,583 because I'd like to see the brighter side of things. 1044 00:56:56,667 --> 00:56:57,876 This record is the next step. 1045 00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:59,837 Everybody says it's our best record we've ever done. 1046 00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:00,921 It could possibly be. 1047 00:57:04,216 --> 00:57:06,969 2004, the introduction to, to Shanks 1048 00:57:07,052 --> 00:57:09,805 as a producer, collaborator. 1049 00:57:09,888 --> 00:57:11,181 John Shanks interview. 1050 00:57:11,265 --> 00:57:12,516 -Take one, marker. 1051 00:57:14,184 --> 00:57:16,019 And I just felt like, "Okay, 1052 00:57:16,103 --> 00:57:19,022 time to move on yet again with producers." 1053 00:57:19,439 --> 00:57:21,275 When Jon first called me 1054 00:57:21,358 --> 00:57:24,903 and he was like, "You wanna produce the record and write with us?" 1055 00:57:24,987 --> 00:57:26,905 I knew what I was walking into. 1056 00:57:26,989 --> 00:57:29,533 John Shanks brought technology, 1057 00:57:29,616 --> 00:57:32,870 a ridiculous amount of musical knowledge. 1058 00:57:32,953 --> 00:57:34,788 It seems like he could play everything. 1059 00:57:34,872 --> 00:57:37,666 He listens to every record that ever was 1060 00:57:37,749 --> 00:57:39,501 and knows, like, all the recording techniques. 1061 00:57:39,585 --> 00:57:41,044 He had recently been named 1062 00:57:41,128 --> 00:57:43,463 Producer of the Year at the Grammys. 1063 00:57:43,547 --> 00:57:46,758 There's an art in what Richie does, 1064 00:57:46,842 --> 00:57:48,552 and did, the two of them. 1065 00:57:49,011 --> 00:57:51,930 Now what's amazing is when now you cut to the studio 1066 00:57:52,014 --> 00:57:53,932 and you're recording those guys, 1067 00:57:54,016 --> 00:57:56,101 you can see sound waves. 1068 00:57:56,185 --> 00:57:59,771 So they go, you know, ♪ Yeah ♪ 1069 00:57:59,855 --> 00:58:00,981 And their vibrato. 1070 00:58:01,064 --> 00:58:05,819 Now their vibratos would literally go... 1071 00:58:06,653 --> 00:58:09,072 So these are two guys that have obviously sung together 1072 00:58:09,156 --> 00:58:11,491 for many, many, many, many years. 1073 00:58:11,575 --> 00:58:13,410 There is definitely a magic there. 1074 00:58:13,869 --> 00:58:17,748 He's a great guy. But it was a-a-a different kind of a style, 1075 00:58:17,831 --> 00:58:22,544 producer, a guitar player, um, a gadget guy, you know? 1076 00:58:22,628 --> 00:58:25,881 So him and Richie, um, were able to complement each other. 1077 00:58:26,340 --> 00:58:29,134 As the new guy, you know, do I say what I think? 1078 00:58:29,218 --> 00:58:30,302 Do I say what I feel? 1079 00:58:30,385 --> 00:58:33,889 Which is, you know, "Maybe let's try something different." 1080 00:58:33,972 --> 00:58:36,266 And at some point, I just was, I took the risk, 1081 00:58:36,350 --> 00:58:38,393 and I said, "You know, can we write a, 1082 00:58:38,769 --> 00:58:40,604 can we write a Bon Jovi song?" 1083 00:58:40,687 --> 00:58:42,898 And I just kind of started playing 1084 00:58:42,981 --> 00:58:44,233 the intro to Have a Nice Day. 1085 00:58:50,656 --> 00:58:52,699 And he's like, "Wow, w-what's that?" 1086 00:58:52,783 --> 00:58:55,202 I said, "That's me being you." 1087 00:58:55,285 --> 00:58:58,705 ♪ Why you wanna tell me how to live my life ♪ 1088 00:58:58,789 --> 00:59:00,165 I'd like to think that it was, you know, 1089 00:59:00,249 --> 00:59:02,501 this natural progression of who and what we were 1090 00:59:03,126 --> 00:59:05,379 without trying to be what we used to be. 1091 00:59:06,088 --> 00:59:09,383 Are we guilty of ever having tried to replicate successes? 1092 00:59:09,466 --> 00:59:10,509 Sure. 1093 00:59:10,592 --> 00:59:14,012 But in truth, there always had to be an evolution on my mind. 1094 00:59:14,638 --> 00:59:16,723 We needed to say more and push the envelope, 1095 00:59:16,807 --> 00:59:18,016 but just a little more. 1096 00:59:18,100 --> 00:59:19,977 Anytime you're a band for, like, 25 years, 1097 00:59:20,060 --> 00:59:22,187 when the door to evolution actually opens, 1098 00:59:22,271 --> 00:59:23,272 you have to step through it. 1099 00:59:24,773 --> 00:59:29,486 ♪ Oh, if there's one thing I hang on to ♪ 1100 00:59:29,570 --> 00:59:32,072 ♪ That gets me through the night ♪ 1101 00:59:32,155 --> 00:59:35,951 ♪ I ain't gonna do what I don't want to ♪ 1102 00:59:36,034 --> 00:59:37,160 Amy, you know what? 1103 00:59:37,244 --> 00:59:39,371 The future, it rocks. 1104 00:59:39,454 --> 00:59:42,249 In the future, is Bon Jovi still around? 1105 00:59:43,709 --> 00:59:45,544 Yes, Amy, Bon Jovi is still around. 1106 00:59:46,753 --> 00:59:49,756 ♪ When the world gets in my face ♪ 1107 00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:53,135 ♪ I say have a nice day ♪ 1108 00:59:55,804 --> 00:59:57,097 What came outta that one 1109 00:59:57,181 --> 01:00:00,434 was yet another number-one single, 1110 01:00:00,517 --> 01:00:02,811 Who Says You Can't Go Home? And that's something that Richie and I wrote 1111 01:00:02,895 --> 01:00:05,564 that was a number-one song, Grammy Award winner. 1112 01:00:10,277 --> 01:00:12,863 When Have a Nice Day, you know, Who Said You Can't Go Home? became 1113 01:00:12,946 --> 01:00:16,033 the first number-one song by a rock and roll band 1114 01:00:16,116 --> 01:00:18,619 in history on the country charts for two weeks, 1115 01:00:18,702 --> 01:00:21,288 so that's when, that was the advent of the Nashville record. 1116 01:00:21,371 --> 01:00:23,916 Lost Highway is in stores now, 1117 01:00:23,999 --> 01:00:25,501 and it's a phenomenal success. 1118 01:00:25,584 --> 01:00:28,295 Lost Highway, because it was so different, 1119 01:00:28,378 --> 01:00:30,839 because it was country-ish, 1120 01:00:30,923 --> 01:00:32,758 that was a lot of fun actually. 1121 01:00:32,841 --> 01:00:35,427 And we went from the success of that 1122 01:00:35,761 --> 01:00:38,263 into the success of The Circle. 1123 01:00:38,347 --> 01:00:40,641 So now we've come back with a rock record. 1124 01:00:42,726 --> 01:00:44,853 ♪ I been there, done that ♪ 1125 01:00:44,937 --> 01:00:46,647 ♪ I ain't looking back ♪ 1126 01:00:46,730 --> 01:00:49,650 " Born to follow" was a hit, tours are selling. 1127 01:00:49,733 --> 01:00:52,903 The band, I think are getting along swimmingly. 1128 01:00:52,986 --> 01:00:55,155 I think everything is, is going quite well. 1129 01:00:55,531 --> 01:00:57,407 We're still here, we're at the top of the game. 1130 01:00:57,491 --> 01:00:59,493 We're writing songs that have been a part 1131 01:00:59,576 --> 01:01:01,370 of the patchwork of American culture 1132 01:01:01,453 --> 01:01:03,288 for nearly three decades. 1133 01:01:03,372 --> 01:01:05,207 There's more Grammy nominations, 1134 01:01:05,290 --> 01:01:08,043 more tickets sold, more hit singles on the radio. 1135 01:01:10,128 --> 01:01:11,630 ♪ Who says you can't go home ♪ 1136 01:01:11,713 --> 01:01:12,923 I was enjoying it, 1137 01:01:13,006 --> 01:01:15,133 and I thought everybody else was enjoying it. 1138 01:01:17,302 --> 01:01:18,303 Wrong. 1139 01:01:20,681 --> 01:01:22,683 I think that's when Richie's challenges 1140 01:01:22,766 --> 01:01:24,476 were starting to challenge him. 1141 01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:27,604 I had broken my arm, and then the pain pills started 1142 01:01:27,688 --> 01:01:28,856 and boozing and all that. 1143 01:01:28,939 --> 01:01:31,108 You know, I mean, I just was kind of, 1144 01:01:31,191 --> 01:01:33,360 I was kind of gone, you know, I was kind of gone. 1145 01:01:34,194 --> 01:01:35,654 I mean, he was struggling. 1146 01:01:36,572 --> 01:01:37,823 He was struggling. 1147 01:01:37,906 --> 01:01:39,616 I never saw you as a guy who drank a lot and stuff. 1148 01:01:39,700 --> 01:01:41,785 So you probably drank in private, right? 1149 01:01:41,869 --> 01:01:44,288 You know what, after a while, what happened was, yeah, 1150 01:01:44,371 --> 01:01:46,707 I was definitely a, a kind of a guy 1151 01:01:46,790 --> 01:01:48,667 that always drank in my house, never drank out. 1152 01:01:48,750 --> 01:01:50,752 I-I didn't even drink in restaurants anymore. 1153 01:01:50,836 --> 01:01:52,671 - Wow. -Or I didn't drink around the band, 1154 01:01:52,754 --> 01:01:54,339 or anywhere near a performance. 1155 01:01:54,423 --> 01:01:55,757 That's when you know you have a problem 1156 01:01:55,841 --> 01:01:57,134 when you're drinking by yourself, right? 1157 01:01:57,217 --> 01:01:58,635 -When it's not a social thing? -I guess so. 1158 01:01:58,927 --> 01:02:00,220 Richie's journey was, you know, 1159 01:02:00,304 --> 01:02:02,556 10 years of, uh, three times in rehab. 1160 01:02:02,639 --> 01:02:04,933 You know, it was, it's tough. 1161 01:02:05,017 --> 01:02:06,185 Him going in and then coming out 1162 01:02:06,268 --> 01:02:07,895 and hugging and crying and "We're there for you." 1163 01:02:07,978 --> 01:02:10,606 And then going back in and then hugging and crying 1164 01:02:10,689 --> 01:02:12,357 and, and then going back in. 1165 01:02:12,733 --> 01:02:15,944 To me, it was more important as I-- "How do I help him?" 1166 01:02:16,028 --> 01:02:18,113 How do I get through to him so he, you know, 1167 01:02:18,197 --> 01:02:20,490 he doesn't kill himself and, or anything like that? 1168 01:02:20,574 --> 01:02:21,825 You know, God forbid. 1169 01:02:22,242 --> 01:02:23,869 You know, you just want to try to help somebody 1170 01:02:23,952 --> 01:02:26,246 who's, who's, who has an addiction problem. 1171 01:02:27,748 --> 01:02:29,249 It was affecting the band. 1172 01:02:29,333 --> 01:02:31,251 We were going through a lot of stuff together. 1173 01:02:31,335 --> 01:02:33,378 That's hard because it's one of your brothers. 1174 01:02:34,713 --> 01:02:38,800 We always worked and that was always a... a Band-Aid. 1175 01:02:39,218 --> 01:02:40,928 And it's a good one sometimes, 1176 01:02:41,011 --> 01:02:44,223 but it disguises the real meat and potatoes. 1177 01:02:45,516 --> 01:02:48,894 The Circle goes right into What About Now? 1178 01:02:48,977 --> 01:02:51,313 And much like Slippery went right into New Jersey. 1179 01:02:51,855 --> 01:02:53,774 How many more times you wanna sing? 1180 01:02:53,857 --> 01:02:55,275 ♪ Bad medicine ♪ 1181 01:02:57,611 --> 01:02:59,446 I should have learned from the mistakes 1182 01:02:59,530 --> 01:03:03,700 of our past that we should have maybe taken more time. 1183 01:03:04,117 --> 01:03:05,577 I feel better than I ever did, 1184 01:03:06,370 --> 01:03:10,332 but it gets harder to keep yourself together. 1185 01:03:10,415 --> 01:03:14,378 You know, I'm guilty of going through it with blinders on 1186 01:03:14,461 --> 01:03:17,256 and just, "Okay, we gotta work? Go." 1187 01:03:20,133 --> 01:03:22,386 And it's exhausting, 1188 01:03:22,469 --> 01:03:25,055 and it-it's exhausting to a lot of other people 1189 01:03:25,138 --> 01:03:27,307 who couldn't see it the way I did. 1190 01:03:27,975 --> 01:03:29,726 But that's what happens in relationships 1191 01:03:29,810 --> 01:03:31,687 after all the years, 1192 01:03:31,770 --> 01:03:34,815 and all stuff and this and that, you know what I mean? 1193 01:03:34,898 --> 01:03:36,650 It was an amalgamation of things. 1194 01:03:37,150 --> 01:03:41,238 I was also having some deep family problems. 1195 01:03:41,697 --> 01:03:45,033 I-I-I was just talking to my daughter on the phone, 1196 01:03:46,034 --> 01:03:50,247 and, uh, I miss my wife and my daughter very badly actually. 1197 01:03:50,706 --> 01:03:53,625 I spent so much time being on the road. 1198 01:03:54,084 --> 01:03:55,752 I mean, at that time, unfortunately, 1199 01:03:55,836 --> 01:03:59,506 my ex-wife was having some mental health issues. 1200 01:04:00,007 --> 01:04:03,218 And my daughter coming to an age where she could understand. 1201 01:04:03,302 --> 01:04:04,595 -Hi, I'm Ava. -This is my daughter. 1202 01:04:04,970 --> 01:04:07,723 She needed me, and I needed her. 1203 01:04:08,974 --> 01:04:12,102 Truthfully, we didn't have enough time. 1204 01:04:12,477 --> 01:04:16,148 And every night, you got 65,000 people leaning on you 1205 01:04:16,231 --> 01:04:18,275 to go "Gimme the best you got." 1206 01:04:19,318 --> 01:04:21,820 Every once in a while, things gang up on you. 1207 01:04:21,904 --> 01:04:23,488 And I was dealing with that, 1208 01:04:23,572 --> 01:04:25,866 and as well as being part 1209 01:04:25,949 --> 01:04:27,784 of one of the biggest bands in the world. 1210 01:04:29,620 --> 01:04:30,996 Then when we went to record it, 1211 01:04:31,079 --> 01:04:33,582 there was that tension in there where Richie wanted to do stuff, 1212 01:04:33,665 --> 01:04:36,210 but he really couldn't do stuff and then Shanks was doing it. 1213 01:04:36,543 --> 01:04:40,172 The band was stale at that point. 1214 01:04:41,715 --> 01:04:44,801 And my job was to say that. 1215 01:04:51,099 --> 01:04:52,935 You can't point fingers 1216 01:04:53,018 --> 01:04:55,646 and say, you know, things about 1217 01:04:55,729 --> 01:04:57,397 the rest of the collective 1218 01:04:57,481 --> 01:04:59,775 that just, they're not true. 1219 01:05:01,026 --> 01:05:03,570 Shit, I don't know. I'm just telling it the way I see it. 1220 01:05:05,364 --> 01:05:07,699 Look, he's a great producer for some, 1221 01:05:07,783 --> 01:05:10,702 and I've worked with him where it's worked wonderfully, 1222 01:05:12,162 --> 01:05:14,331 but at the end of the day, it got sour. 1223 01:05:15,499 --> 01:05:19,920 You know, Richie would come to the studio, and it was like everything was done. 1224 01:05:20,379 --> 01:05:21,797 Jon wanted it done good. 1225 01:05:22,047 --> 01:05:25,425 He got in a strange mood 1226 01:05:25,801 --> 01:05:28,095 about time. 1227 01:05:28,178 --> 01:05:30,514 John and I end up writing What About Now? 1228 01:05:30,597 --> 01:05:31,849 Richie doesn't show up. 1229 01:05:32,516 --> 01:05:33,892 Um, no big deal. 1230 01:05:34,476 --> 01:05:36,436 I'm just pushing to keep going. 1231 01:05:36,520 --> 01:05:39,273 And Richie was really upset 1232 01:05:39,356 --> 01:05:41,984 that on a song that I had written called The Fighter, 1233 01:05:42,067 --> 01:05:45,904 he didn't play this one part on an acoustic guitar. 1234 01:05:52,828 --> 01:05:55,581 And that caused a problem. 1235 01:06:01,879 --> 01:06:04,965 And Shanks being a studio musician 1236 01:06:05,048 --> 01:06:08,343 was very capable of going in 1237 01:06:08,427 --> 01:06:10,846 and being done with the parts so that we, 1238 01:06:10,929 --> 01:06:13,640 Richie, myself, and John could move on. 1239 01:06:14,558 --> 01:06:16,435 After all those records, 1240 01:06:16,518 --> 01:06:18,478 uh, people know how I play, 1241 01:06:18,979 --> 01:06:22,858 and, uh, I went, "Have at it." 1242 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:24,860 I didn't know. 1243 01:06:25,277 --> 01:06:29,031 And no words were spoken, that Richie was crushed 1244 01:06:29,114 --> 01:06:30,532 that he was replaced. 1245 01:06:31,742 --> 01:06:33,619 I'm caught between the two of them. 1246 01:06:33,702 --> 01:06:36,121 So you have to tread lightly. 1247 01:06:36,496 --> 01:06:42,044 ♪ Write you a song just to use them ♪ 1248 01:06:42,127 --> 01:06:44,880 Richie, he had some issues falling off the wagon 1249 01:06:44,963 --> 01:06:46,423 during the course of pre-production. 1250 01:06:46,507 --> 01:06:48,675 And you know, for whatever reason, 1251 01:06:48,759 --> 01:06:50,886 I can't even say, "Oh, it's, it's substance abuse." 1252 01:06:50,969 --> 01:06:52,137 Okay, that was a part of it. 1253 01:06:52,221 --> 01:06:54,097 It's not like this was the first time. 1254 01:06:54,181 --> 01:06:59,603 ♪ Someday you may wanna know who I am ♪ 1255 01:06:59,686 --> 01:07:02,523 John Shanks and Jon had 30 songs, 1256 01:07:02,606 --> 01:07:04,525 and they said they felt like they had the record 1257 01:07:05,442 --> 01:07:07,110 and I said, "Let me hear it." 1258 01:07:09,196 --> 01:07:11,406 I go, "Don't sound like Bon Jovi." 1259 01:07:15,869 --> 01:07:20,082 It just didn't sound like us because I wasn't there. 1260 01:07:21,291 --> 01:07:24,211 There was a lot of distance between Richie and Jon. 1261 01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,089 There was a lot of rubbing. 1262 01:07:27,172 --> 01:07:28,882 You know, it goes both ways. 1263 01:07:28,966 --> 01:07:31,552 It's like if you don't show up for a session, then you don't play. 1264 01:07:32,052 --> 01:07:33,929 Then you show up and your stuff is done. 1265 01:07:36,056 --> 01:07:37,266 What do you do with that? 1266 01:07:38,517 --> 01:07:40,978 He had the whole thing kind of planned out, 1267 01:07:41,061 --> 01:07:42,563 which basically was telling me, 1268 01:07:43,021 --> 01:07:45,732 "Hmm, I can do it without you." 1269 01:07:46,149 --> 01:07:49,403 And, uh, I was getting treated kind of like 1270 01:07:49,486 --> 01:07:52,239 I didn't write and do all that stuff. 1271 01:07:52,322 --> 01:07:55,701 And I wasn't the guy they talked to anymore. 1272 01:07:56,118 --> 01:08:01,373 The internal issues that we had culminated in 2013. 1273 01:08:01,915 --> 01:08:04,334 We put the record out and we were on the road 1274 01:08:04,418 --> 01:08:06,461 and we were 20 shows in. 1275 01:08:06,545 --> 01:08:08,255 There had been a break. 1276 01:08:08,672 --> 01:08:11,675 And I remember being on the phone to Richie, 1277 01:08:11,758 --> 01:08:14,052 and he says, "Can I stay home another day 1278 01:08:14,136 --> 01:08:15,512 and fly a private the next day?" 1279 01:08:15,596 --> 01:08:16,638 And I said, "Of course." 1280 01:08:16,722 --> 01:08:19,266 And, and I could tell that something was the matter. 1281 01:08:20,184 --> 01:08:23,103 There was a lot of tension, not only with me, 1282 01:08:23,187 --> 01:08:25,189 but, uh, the guys in the band. 1283 01:08:25,606 --> 01:08:28,317 I really thought to myself, they'd be better off without me. 1284 01:08:29,193 --> 01:08:31,612 And at three o'clock on that afternoon, on that Tuesday, 1285 01:08:31,695 --> 01:08:33,780 my phone rang, and it was Paul Korzilius. 1286 01:08:33,864 --> 01:08:35,866 And Paul never calls my room. 1287 01:08:35,949 --> 01:08:38,327 And I was like, "Oh, no, what?" 1288 01:08:38,744 --> 01:08:40,954 And he said, "We got a problem." 1289 01:08:42,956 --> 01:08:44,374 There was an airplane on the runway, 1290 01:08:44,833 --> 01:08:47,878 a car in the driveway, suitcase in the trunk. 1291 01:08:47,961 --> 01:08:49,505 And he never makes it. 1292 01:08:50,172 --> 01:08:51,757 Richard wouldn't leave his own house 1293 01:08:52,341 --> 01:08:53,592 to show up for the show. 1294 01:08:54,259 --> 01:08:56,553 That hurt. You know, that was like the first time you're like, 1295 01:08:56,637 --> 01:08:59,765 "Oh, I don't know if there's gonna be a happy ending." 1296 01:08:59,848 --> 01:09:02,059 Oh, I was sadder than I was pissed off. 1297 01:09:02,976 --> 01:09:04,311 "Everybody's here. 1298 01:09:04,394 --> 01:09:06,355 Wait a minute, we're missing somebody." 1299 01:09:07,064 --> 01:09:08,982 It was clear and evident proof 1300 01:09:09,066 --> 01:09:12,903 that shit has hit the fan, you know? 1301 01:09:12,986 --> 01:09:14,571 And, uh, he's not coming. 1302 01:09:55,696 --> 01:09:57,197 I'm not sticking to any timelines 1303 01:09:57,281 --> 01:09:58,949 that I'm just singing by myself right now, 1304 01:09:59,032 --> 01:10:00,701 but the idea would be to ramp up 1305 01:10:00,784 --> 01:10:03,662 and to get to a place by February or March 1306 01:10:03,745 --> 01:10:05,581 where I could say, "Why don't we get together in a room?" 1307 01:10:05,664 --> 01:10:07,583 and build upon that. 1308 01:10:08,959 --> 01:10:12,546 But eventually I'm gonna have to pull a trigger somewhere, 1309 01:10:12,629 --> 01:10:14,631 you know, to say we're going or we're not going. 1310 01:10:30,689 --> 01:10:34,026 I never had the thought that Jon would ever stop. 1311 01:10:34,109 --> 01:10:38,405 As long as he's happy and he's healthy, we all keep going. 1312 01:10:38,864 --> 01:10:40,824 I don't want to do it again if he's not having fun. 1313 01:10:40,908 --> 01:10:42,576 And I won't do it again if he's not having fun. 1314 01:10:42,659 --> 01:10:43,660 'Cause he won't do it again. 1315 01:10:44,536 --> 01:10:45,787 I told him one time, I said, 1316 01:10:45,871 --> 01:10:47,873 "As long as you want to do this, I'll be there." 1317 01:10:48,415 --> 01:10:50,042 I mean, I'll drop everything. 1318 01:10:51,126 --> 01:10:52,711 I think we will ride on. 1319 01:10:53,253 --> 01:10:54,922 I think the journey has to keep going. 1320 01:11:15,359 --> 01:11:18,362 ♪ You wanna start a fire ♪ 1321 01:11:19,363 --> 01:11:22,032 ♪ It only takes a spark ♪ 1322 01:11:22,783 --> 01:11:26,078 ♪ You gotta get behind the wheel ♪ 1323 01:11:26,370 --> 01:11:29,748 ♪ If you're ever gonna drive that car ♪ 1324 01:11:30,666 --> 01:11:33,502 ♪ If you want to take a bite ♪ 1325 01:11:34,795 --> 01:11:37,798 ♪ You better have the teeth ♪ 1326 01:11:38,715 --> 01:11:41,301 ♪ If you wanna take that step ♪ 1327 01:11:42,636 --> 01:11:45,973 ♪ Then get up off of your knees ♪ 1328 01:11:46,473 --> 01:11:50,227 ♪ 'Cause tonight ♪ 1329 01:11:50,310 --> 01:11:53,647 ♪ We're alive ♪ 1330 01:11:53,730 --> 01:11:56,108 ♪ Who'll stand for the restless ♪ 1331 01:11:56,191 --> 01:11:58,026 ♪ And the lonely ♪ 1332 01:11:58,110 --> 01:12:01,613 ♪ For the desperate and the hungry ♪ 1333 01:12:01,697 --> 01:12:05,200 ♪ Down for the count ♪ 1334 01:12:05,284 --> 01:12:09,621 ♪ I'm hearing you now ♪ 1335 01:12:09,705 --> 01:12:13,458 ♪ For the faithful, the believer ♪ 1336 01:12:13,542 --> 01:12:16,837 ♪ For the faceless and the teachers ♪ 1337 01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:20,465 ♪ Stand up and be proud ♪ 1338 01:12:21,049 --> 01:12:23,719 ♪ What about now? ♪ 1339 01:12:25,137 --> 01:12:27,598 ♪ You wanna start a fight ♪ 1340 01:12:29,016 --> 01:12:31,560 ♪ You gotta take a swing ♪ 1341 01:12:31,977 --> 01:12:36,231 ♪ You gotta get your hands in the dirt ♪ 1342 01:12:36,315 --> 01:12:39,902 ♪ To see what the harvest will bring ♪ 1343 01:12:40,611 --> 01:12:43,238 ♪ You wanna raise your voice ♪ 1344 01:12:44,531 --> 01:12:47,576 ♪ Don't be scared to breathe ♪ 1345 01:12:48,410 --> 01:12:50,787 ♪ Don't be afraid to hurt ♪ 1346 01:12:52,206 --> 01:12:55,167 ♪ Don't be ashamed in need ♪ 1347 01:12:56,084 --> 01:12:59,880 ♪ 'Cause tonight ♪ 1348 01:12:59,963 --> 01:13:03,217 ♪ We're alive ♪ 1349 01:13:03,300 --> 01:13:05,761 ♪ Who'll stand for the restless ♪ 1350 01:13:05,844 --> 01:13:07,554 ♪ And the lonely ♪ 1351 01:13:07,638 --> 01:13:08,680 ♪ For the desperate... ♪ 105080

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