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I will now announce-- 8 00:00:29,696 --> 00:00:31,406 He's one of those fortunate guys 9 00:00:31,406 --> 00:00:32,908 who is so full of himself 10 00:00:32,908 --> 00:00:36,078 and he's got loads of self-confidence that nothing will hold him back. 11 00:00:36,328 --> 00:00:38,914 He's got his debut album out, it's selling extremely well. 12 00:00:38,914 --> 00:00:41,083 - A very big warm welcome to you, Jon. - Thank you. 13 00:00:41,083 --> 00:00:42,835 Nice to see you. How old are you, Jon? 14 00:00:42,835 --> 00:00:44,211 - I'm 22. - Right age. 15 00:00:46,839 --> 00:00:48,841 Okay, so you grew up in New Jersey. 16 00:00:48,841 --> 00:00:50,717 Had you always been into rock music? 17 00:00:50,717 --> 00:00:52,594 Oh, yeah, sure. I think since, uh, 18 00:00:52,594 --> 00:00:55,430 you know, I've always said I was born with sunglasses and a guitar. 19 00:00:55,430 --> 00:00:58,308 You know, I mean, I've been playing since I can remember. 20 00:00:58,308 --> 00:01:00,060 What were your parents' reactions 21 00:01:00,060 --> 00:01:02,604 when you decided you were gonna go into rock and roll music? 22 00:01:02,604 --> 00:01:04,940 They probably thought we were crazy, you know, wondering like, 23 00:01:04,940 --> 00:01:06,692 "Why don't you get a real job, make some money." 24 00:01:16,535 --> 00:01:18,328 This is our high-tech setup. 25 00:01:19,496 --> 00:01:21,748 I've spent the last week or 10 days 26 00:01:22,165 --> 00:01:25,252 going through archiving a lot of cassettes. 27 00:01:26,003 --> 00:01:27,337 Here's what we found. 28 00:01:27,713 --> 00:01:29,506 All this was in boxes. 29 00:01:30,799 --> 00:01:33,802 I wanted to do it because of the 40th, 30 00:01:34,219 --> 00:01:36,013 but if I was 100% healthy, 31 00:01:36,013 --> 00:01:38,724 I probably wouldn't be paying as close attention. 32 00:01:39,474 --> 00:01:43,020 Here's Blaze of Glory, the writing session. 33 00:01:45,147 --> 00:01:47,191 So here's Runaway before there was a band. 34 00:01:48,066 --> 00:01:52,571 This has a song that I was writing for the Tom Cruise movie, 35 00:01:52,571 --> 00:01:55,574 Days of Thunder, and I wrote on it, "not good." 36 00:01:57,993 --> 00:02:03,248 It's validated for me the, uh, body of work is legit, 37 00:02:03,248 --> 00:02:05,876 but more importantly, it got better. 38 00:02:09,421 --> 00:02:12,925 This is cool because it's the first time we ever played there. 39 00:02:18,764 --> 00:02:20,599 That's us walking to the stage. 40 00:02:24,269 --> 00:02:26,021 [♪ "Lay Your Hands On Me" by Bon Jovi plays on video] 41 00:02:26,021 --> 00:02:27,439 Kid's a little excited. 42 00:02:33,195 --> 00:02:34,988 The first time we played Giants Stadium, 43 00:02:35,531 --> 00:02:37,199 you know, it was as big as it got. 44 00:02:40,369 --> 00:02:43,205 [♪ "Lay Your Hands On Me" continues playing] 45 00:02:46,667 --> 00:02:48,836 ♪ They say that to be able to free your body ♪ 46 00:02:51,255 --> 00:02:53,340 ♪ You gotta free your mind ♪ 47 00:02:54,675 --> 00:02:55,884 ♪ So come on ♪ 48 00:03:01,181 --> 00:03:02,474 ♪ Check this out ♪ 49 00:03:15,362 --> 00:03:17,322 One of the hottest tickets around tonight 50 00:03:17,322 --> 00:03:19,867 was to see the world's hottest rock group. 51 00:03:19,867 --> 00:03:21,869 Bon Jovi records have been selling by the millions, 52 00:03:21,869 --> 00:03:23,495 and his concerts have been selling out. 53 00:03:23,495 --> 00:03:26,915 ♪ If you're ready, I'm willing and able ♪ 54 00:03:26,915 --> 00:03:29,084 Bon Jovi has been riding high 55 00:03:29,084 --> 00:03:31,336 since their album Slippery When Wet 56 00:03:31,336 --> 00:03:34,506 sold 14 million copies around the world. 57 00:03:34,506 --> 00:03:36,008 ♪ For the taking ♪ 58 00:03:37,092 --> 00:03:40,345 ♪ The rules we've made are meant for breaking ♪ 59 00:03:41,513 --> 00:03:44,641 ♪ What you get ain't always what you see ♪ 60 00:03:45,976 --> 00:03:48,270 ♪ But satisfaction is guaranteed ♪ 61 00:03:48,270 --> 00:03:51,064 You're knocking down records that've been there for years. 62 00:03:51,481 --> 00:03:52,816 Does that frighten you? 63 00:03:52,816 --> 00:03:55,944 Nobody really knew that it could get this big. 64 00:03:55,944 --> 00:03:58,488 ♪ If you want me to lay my hands on you ♪ 65 00:03:58,488 --> 00:04:00,574 What does it feel like to know that Bon Jovi 66 00:04:00,574 --> 00:04:03,118 probably is at the moment the number one rock act in America? 67 00:04:03,118 --> 00:04:06,580 We're not, uh, satisfied and we're not done. 68 00:04:06,580 --> 00:04:08,207 We're just hitting stride. 69 00:04:13,837 --> 00:04:15,339 It don't get no better 70 00:04:15,339 --> 00:04:17,299 than this! 71 00:04:17,299 --> 00:04:19,718 One, two, three, four! 72 00:04:20,052 --> 00:04:21,887 It's going great. Kids are rocking, we're rocking. 73 00:04:21,887 --> 00:04:23,972 I mean, you really are earning your reputation 74 00:04:23,972 --> 00:04:25,349 as the hardest-working band, aren't you? 75 00:04:25,349 --> 00:04:27,267 - Absolutely. - ♪ Lay your hands on me ♪ 76 00:04:28,769 --> 00:04:30,646 ♪ Lay your hands on me ♪ 77 00:04:31,146 --> 00:04:32,814 ♪ Lay your hands on me ♪ 78 00:04:33,190 --> 00:04:38,820 ♪ Lay your hands on me ♪ 79 00:04:40,781 --> 00:04:43,200 If you're healthy, it's the greatest thing in the whole world. 80 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:44,701 You know, when you can hit the high notes, 81 00:04:44,701 --> 00:04:47,996 there's not a higher feeling in the world, 82 00:04:47,996 --> 00:04:49,623 you know, there's nothing better than that. 83 00:05:02,302 --> 00:05:05,222 We are in day one 84 00:05:05,222 --> 00:05:08,600 of what will ultimately culminate 85 00:05:09,393 --> 00:05:11,520 in the 40th anniversary of the band. 86 00:05:12,437 --> 00:05:16,358 Technically, it's year 39 and a half. 87 00:05:17,693 --> 00:05:19,486 We're about to start rehearsals 88 00:05:19,486 --> 00:05:23,407 in a place that I dreamt of playing when I was a kid. 89 00:05:24,199 --> 00:05:25,784 That's where we're having pre-production. 90 00:05:25,784 --> 00:05:29,538 That's the Meadowlands Arena. It's not used anymore. 91 00:05:30,414 --> 00:05:34,626 We've just taken it over for the next three weeks to rehearse. 92 00:05:35,294 --> 00:05:37,129 Go out, do some dates, 93 00:05:37,838 --> 00:05:40,924 take the rest of this year to figure out what the 40th is, 94 00:05:41,425 --> 00:05:44,261 and then go out and celebrate that journey. 95 00:06:04,198 --> 00:06:06,158 Oh, hello, Snooky. 96 00:06:07,242 --> 00:06:08,327 - How are you, then? - Good. 97 00:06:08,327 --> 00:06:10,245 - I know, I love this stuff. - That's the stuff. 98 00:06:10,245 --> 00:06:12,122 - I know. - It's the, the vocal magic. 99 00:06:12,331 --> 00:06:15,584 Obie! 100 00:06:16,251 --> 00:06:18,962 It is good to see you before you turn the 6, the big 6-0 101 00:06:18,962 --> 00:06:21,298 and everything just totally turns to rat shit. 102 00:06:22,424 --> 00:06:23,800 You look good for 40, though. 103 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,928 I know. How are you feeling? 104 00:06:26,303 --> 00:06:27,429 I feel great. 105 00:06:29,097 --> 00:06:32,226 How could this be the place where time stood still? 106 00:06:32,601 --> 00:06:34,186 Why wouldn't you play here? 107 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:35,521 I don't know. 108 00:06:35,521 --> 00:06:37,397 I would play here in a minute. 109 00:06:37,814 --> 00:06:39,900 - It's a good venue. - I love this place. 110 00:06:39,900 --> 00:06:42,236 It's always been so good 'cause they're on top of you. 111 00:06:42,861 --> 00:06:44,571 When I was a young guy, 112 00:06:44,571 --> 00:06:47,241 right around the time where we were just starting out, 113 00:06:47,241 --> 00:06:49,451 and, you know, you always think someday. 114 00:06:49,451 --> 00:06:52,037 And then I remember going to shows at the Meadowlands 115 00:06:52,037 --> 00:06:55,666 and then I remember meeting a very famous agent saying, 116 00:06:55,666 --> 00:06:58,126 "Someday, you know, you're gonna be my agent." 117 00:06:58,126 --> 00:07:00,921 And then saying to that agent, "Someday, I'm gonna headline here 118 00:07:00,921 --> 00:07:04,007 and golly gee, we're gonna put on a show." 119 00:07:04,007 --> 00:07:05,467 You know? 120 00:07:05,467 --> 00:07:08,136 And then, uh, you know, how many times then 121 00:07:08,136 --> 00:07:09,763 of course we went on to play there. 122 00:07:10,222 --> 00:07:12,099 So it's almost like full circle 123 00:07:12,099 --> 00:07:14,810 of the success of the band to go back there. 124 00:07:14,810 --> 00:07:16,395 I think we should fucking book a week 125 00:07:16,395 --> 00:07:18,397 and just say "Fuck you" to everyone else. 126 00:07:18,397 --> 00:07:20,315 Hey, you call it. We'll-we'll sell it. 127 00:07:20,315 --> 00:07:22,442 I could sell it, that's for sure. 128 00:07:22,901 --> 00:07:26,196 We never, in 40 years, 129 00:07:26,196 --> 00:07:28,031 have done three weeks rehearsal. 130 00:07:28,574 --> 00:07:30,367 Maybe we did four days. 131 00:07:31,285 --> 00:07:34,204 We never did this kind of rehearsal. 132 00:07:34,872 --> 00:07:38,292 But in a weird way, we all want that. 133 00:07:38,792 --> 00:07:40,544 We wanna sit in a room and just, 134 00:07:41,378 --> 00:07:44,173 no pressure, no... nothing. 135 00:07:46,300 --> 00:07:47,968 It's like a fuckin' time warp. 136 00:07:47,968 --> 00:07:49,636 What fucking year is this? 137 00:07:50,637 --> 00:07:52,806 Floor monitors in the Meadowlands. 138 00:07:52,806 --> 00:07:55,392 - Ooh, ooh! - Oh, no. 139 00:08:05,110 --> 00:08:06,361 Hey, hey. Shh. 140 00:08:06,361 --> 00:08:07,738 A lot of guys aren't there. 141 00:08:07,738 --> 00:08:09,031 Big changing of the guard. 142 00:08:09,031 --> 00:08:11,116 The stalwarts are the band. 143 00:08:11,116 --> 00:08:15,120 Starting with David Bryan, my keyboard player, dear friend. 144 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:19,750 David's been with me since we were 16 or 17 years old, 145 00:08:20,209 --> 00:08:21,627 all throughout the band's career. 146 00:08:21,627 --> 00:08:23,378 Same with Tico Torres. 147 00:08:23,378 --> 00:08:25,589 He was a drummer that I never thought in a million years 148 00:08:25,589 --> 00:08:27,132 would ever play with me. 149 00:08:27,132 --> 00:08:28,634 You know, he was the grownup in the band. 150 00:08:28,634 --> 00:08:30,427 He's-he's 10 years older than I am. 151 00:08:31,303 --> 00:08:32,679 Hugh McDonald, the bass player, 152 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,766 actually played on Runaway before there was even a band. 153 00:08:36,141 --> 00:08:38,727 So, you know, although Hugh wasn't a member 154 00:08:38,727 --> 00:08:40,312 of the band for the longest time, 155 00:08:40,312 --> 00:08:42,189 I've known him, he's played with me a bunch. 156 00:08:42,689 --> 00:08:44,983 John Shanks, playing guitar, 157 00:08:44,983 --> 00:08:47,486 is, uh, co-producer of every record 158 00:08:47,486 --> 00:08:49,905 since Have a Nice Day in 2005. 159 00:08:50,364 --> 00:08:53,784 Everett Bradley is playing percussion because truthfully, uh, 160 00:08:54,159 --> 00:08:56,078 he adds a different dimension to the band, 161 00:08:56,078 --> 00:08:59,331 and he was there at a time when I, I needed him 162 00:08:59,331 --> 00:09:00,916 to fill out the sound. 163 00:09:01,375 --> 00:09:04,127 And then Phil X came in a couple of times 164 00:09:04,127 --> 00:09:06,839 during the times when, you know, Richie wasn't up to it. 165 00:09:06,839 --> 00:09:09,550 And then finally, you know, he stayed on 166 00:09:09,550 --> 00:09:11,844 and he's an incredibly talented cat. 167 00:09:11,844 --> 00:09:14,346 So he fills those shoes fully. 168 00:09:15,931 --> 00:09:17,224 So that's the band. 169 00:09:17,224 --> 00:09:18,308 Whoo! Come on. 170 00:09:18,308 --> 00:09:21,311 I used to run around these things like a motherfucker. 171 00:09:24,690 --> 00:09:26,608 So potent, fucker. 172 00:09:27,776 --> 00:09:29,486 One of the best there ever was. 173 00:09:35,868 --> 00:09:38,579 Now the champ is tired. 174 00:09:42,165 --> 00:09:44,793 Unfortunately, the truth is, is I'm all over the place. 175 00:09:45,335 --> 00:09:48,589 You know, I have one foot in and one foot off the ground. 176 00:09:48,589 --> 00:09:49,882 Some days, I wake up 177 00:09:49,882 --> 00:09:52,259 and I, and I can't wait to get back in there and swing. 178 00:09:52,259 --> 00:09:56,346 And others, I-I regret that I'm doing this interview 179 00:09:56,346 --> 00:09:58,098 and that I'm going back on the road. 180 00:09:59,558 --> 00:10:02,060 To me, the greatest goal 181 00:10:02,060 --> 00:10:06,690 is that I truly just have joy in this next run. 182 00:10:09,151 --> 00:10:13,238 ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh ♪ 183 00:10:13,238 --> 00:10:17,034 ♪ Tear off your mask, no need to hide ♪ 184 00:10:17,576 --> 00:10:21,496 ♪ There's a prescription that no doctor can prescribe ♪ 185 00:10:21,914 --> 00:10:25,417 I don't need to do this, I want to do this. 186 00:10:25,751 --> 00:10:29,254 So, my drive is much different. 187 00:10:29,254 --> 00:10:34,343 I'm not doing it for success. I'm not doing it for accolades or money. 188 00:10:34,343 --> 00:10:36,386 I just wanted to be good at it. 189 00:10:36,386 --> 00:10:38,222 I wanted to work hard at it. 190 00:10:38,222 --> 00:10:44,144 ♪ Love is a beautiful drug ♪ 191 00:10:44,144 --> 00:10:48,857 The joy is that oneness with the song, 192 00:10:49,483 --> 00:10:52,027 it's that connection to that place 193 00:10:52,027 --> 00:10:54,571 that takes you off of the stage. 194 00:10:54,571 --> 00:10:57,908 - ♪ ...beautiful drug ♪ - ♪ Ooh, ooh, ooh ♪ 195 00:10:57,908 --> 00:11:00,202 If the other side of it were to come back 196 00:11:00,202 --> 00:11:02,037 and you're too in your head, 197 00:11:02,037 --> 00:11:04,081 it's an anchor around your neck 198 00:11:04,081 --> 00:11:07,501 in every word of every song, every night. 199 00:11:08,210 --> 00:11:09,837 It's sheer torture. 200 00:11:10,379 --> 00:11:14,049 And I know what that is too, and I ain't going back. 201 00:11:14,049 --> 00:11:16,134 ♪ The taste, the touch, the stuff of dreams ♪ 202 00:11:16,134 --> 00:11:18,262 ♪ The paradise that's in between ♪ 203 00:11:18,262 --> 00:11:20,138 ♪ Honey of another hit ♪ 204 00:11:20,138 --> 00:11:22,599 ♪ You'd almost bite through your own lip ♪ 205 00:11:22,599 --> 00:11:24,518 ♪ The thorny rose that makes you bleed ♪ 206 00:11:24,518 --> 00:11:29,606 ♪ A kind of hurt that makes you scream ♪ 207 00:11:29,606 --> 00:11:31,942 ♪ Love ♪ 208 00:11:31,942 --> 00:11:35,195 ♪ Love is a beautiful drug ♪ 209 00:11:35,195 --> 00:11:39,032 And with every decade comes another life's lesson. 210 00:11:39,032 --> 00:11:44,621 At 25, all I was thinking about was fun, success. 211 00:11:44,955 --> 00:11:49,209 At 30, I got married, I had looked at success differently. 212 00:11:49,209 --> 00:11:52,713 By 40, you start to measure, did you accomplish what you set out to do. 213 00:11:52,713 --> 00:11:55,257 By 50, you start to think about a legacy. 214 00:11:55,257 --> 00:11:58,343 By 60, I think as the Chinese proverb says, 215 00:11:58,343 --> 00:12:00,721 it's basically, "You are the man you were meant to be." 216 00:12:01,513 --> 00:12:02,514 That's good. 217 00:12:03,348 --> 00:12:06,226 So at 60, it's like when I look back, 218 00:12:06,977 --> 00:12:08,937 did I become the man I wanted to be? 219 00:12:12,399 --> 00:12:14,484 President Kennedy sitting in the front seat 220 00:12:14,484 --> 00:12:15,944 being helped out by Secret Service... 221 00:12:15,944 --> 00:12:18,280 We were born into an era 222 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,449 where the American dream was very much alive and well. 223 00:12:20,449 --> 00:12:22,743 We choose to go to the moon in this decade... 224 00:12:22,743 --> 00:12:24,953 We were born when John Kennedy was elected president. 225 00:12:24,953 --> 00:12:28,457 Not because they are easy, but because they are hard. 226 00:12:28,457 --> 00:12:30,250 When he talked about sending a man to the moon. 227 00:12:30,250 --> 00:12:32,252 That's affirmative. Program alarm. 228 00:12:32,252 --> 00:12:36,089 They would tell you that anything you wanted to be, you could be. 229 00:12:36,089 --> 00:12:39,134 Just about the only thing that can make a 10-year-old sit still 230 00:12:39,134 --> 00:12:40,969 long enough for you to catch your breath. 231 00:12:40,969 --> 00:12:43,597 That your parents were going to be the ones 232 00:12:43,597 --> 00:12:45,891 to buy their first home in suburbia. 233 00:12:45,891 --> 00:12:47,893 The isolation of the suburbs, 234 00:12:47,893 --> 00:12:50,229 70% of the people in the metropolitan area 235 00:12:50,229 --> 00:12:52,022 own their own homes. 236 00:12:52,022 --> 00:12:56,401 It was just a wonderful little mix of European 237 00:12:56,985 --> 00:13:01,240 first- and second-generation families who came over 238 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,992 and didn't get any farther than New Jersey. 239 00:13:05,202 --> 00:13:07,538 New Jersey is more than meets the eye. 240 00:13:08,247 --> 00:13:11,458 A place to study, a place to learn, 241 00:13:11,458 --> 00:13:13,669 a place to prepare for the future. 242 00:13:13,669 --> 00:13:17,464 And sometimes, New Jersey is a place to dream. 243 00:13:17,464 --> 00:13:20,050 It was very much the privilege 244 00:13:20,050 --> 00:13:24,096 of being born in a certain place, 245 00:13:24,555 --> 00:13:27,516 at a certain time, looking a certain way. 246 00:13:27,933 --> 00:13:30,269 And although all of our families 247 00:13:30,269 --> 00:13:32,813 come from very blue collar working class, 248 00:13:33,188 --> 00:13:37,401 we also had a leg up because we didn't want for things. 249 00:13:37,776 --> 00:13:40,070 Our parents taught us all a work ethic, 250 00:13:42,281 --> 00:13:45,325 but then you-you felt like, we didn't have a care in the world. 251 00:13:45,325 --> 00:13:46,410 You had a roof over your head 252 00:13:46,410 --> 00:13:48,871 and shoes on your feet and food on the table. 253 00:13:49,538 --> 00:13:51,456 That was all part of the American dream. 254 00:13:51,456 --> 00:13:53,834 You can do anything that you wanna do, 255 00:13:54,293 --> 00:13:57,087 and the whole world's out there, man, and it's just waiting for you to take it. 256 00:14:06,972 --> 00:14:09,725 I always say we were like America's greatest export 257 00:14:09,725 --> 00:14:11,393 because it shows the American dream. 258 00:14:11,393 --> 00:14:14,062 It's like five guys from nowhere. 259 00:14:14,062 --> 00:14:16,982 And if you work hard enough and you dream big enough, you can make it. 260 00:14:18,942 --> 00:14:20,777 My dad was a trumpet player. 261 00:14:20,777 --> 00:14:23,822 He would always have big band like Al Hirt and Dizzy Gillespie. 262 00:14:23,822 --> 00:14:25,699 And he taught me trumpet when I was five. 263 00:14:25,699 --> 00:14:29,119 And, uh, I knew I had no career 'cause I stunk. 264 00:14:29,119 --> 00:14:31,830 But I love music. I-I just loved the feeling about it, you know? 265 00:14:31,830 --> 00:14:33,373 And then at seven, I started piano lessons, 266 00:14:33,373 --> 00:14:34,541 I auditioned for piano lessons. 267 00:14:35,751 --> 00:14:37,711 He was a Julliard graduate, Mr. Hack, 268 00:14:37,711 --> 00:14:40,130 I remember he had a Hammond organ, like this one with pedals. 269 00:14:40,797 --> 00:14:42,549 My first impression, I said to my dad, I'm like, 270 00:14:42,549 --> 00:14:44,092 "I don't wanna play the thing with the feet. 271 00:14:44,092 --> 00:14:46,261 "It looks too hard. There's too many things. 272 00:14:46,261 --> 00:14:48,096 It looks hard enough with just your hands." 273 00:14:48,096 --> 00:14:50,474 And then he went to the piano, he started playing that, 274 00:14:50,474 --> 00:14:53,060 and he started playing, like, Brahms and Bach 275 00:14:53,060 --> 00:14:54,311 and Schubert and Mozart. 276 00:14:54,311 --> 00:14:57,356 All this beautiful noise and sound 277 00:14:57,356 --> 00:14:58,982 was coming out of this piece of wood. 278 00:14:58,982 --> 00:15:01,318 And I went, "Whatever that is, I need to do that." 279 00:15:02,653 --> 00:15:06,698 I would've been aware of music on the periphery. 280 00:15:07,032 --> 00:15:09,409 We did not have a musical household. 281 00:15:09,409 --> 00:15:11,995 It wasn't as if my parents ever sat down and said, 282 00:15:11,995 --> 00:15:13,455 "Listen to this." 283 00:15:13,956 --> 00:15:15,666 My mom was a florist, 284 00:15:15,666 --> 00:15:17,751 and she had a little gift shop at one point 285 00:15:17,751 --> 00:15:20,879 and somehow she brought an acoustic guitar home 286 00:15:20,879 --> 00:15:26,969 and the Roy Clark learn-at-home guitar book and record. 287 00:15:26,969 --> 00:15:29,263 That was my Roy Clark Big Note Guitar songbook. 288 00:15:29,263 --> 00:15:31,098 And I was seven, eight years old, 289 00:15:31,098 --> 00:15:32,474 so I had no desire. 290 00:15:32,891 --> 00:15:34,768 I remember throwing it down the basement stairs 291 00:15:34,768 --> 00:15:36,103 and breaking a tuning pick. 292 00:15:36,103 --> 00:15:37,646 And hey, you're makin' music. 293 00:15:37,646 --> 00:15:39,398 But as you hit 12 and 13 years old 294 00:15:39,398 --> 00:15:40,816 and you're listening to the AM radio 295 00:15:40,816 --> 00:15:42,568 and the pop songs, you start liking them, 296 00:15:42,568 --> 00:15:44,528 and you start singing along a little bit. 297 00:15:44,528 --> 00:15:47,197 And that's when I found music in my own way. 298 00:15:49,908 --> 00:15:52,202 ♪ I can hear the ocean's roar ♪ 299 00:15:53,871 --> 00:15:55,455 ♪ I don't think so ♪ 300 00:15:58,834 --> 00:16:02,254 That's when a guy named Al Parinello moved in across the street 301 00:16:02,254 --> 00:16:05,591 and he was the hipper, younger version of my parents. 302 00:16:05,591 --> 00:16:07,718 He played guitar in a lounge band. 303 00:16:08,969 --> 00:16:11,138 And then I thought to go down into the basement 304 00:16:11,138 --> 00:16:12,598 and pick up that guitar 305 00:16:13,056 --> 00:16:15,767 because he's the one that had the patience 306 00:16:15,767 --> 00:16:17,561 to show me a couple of chords. 307 00:16:18,145 --> 00:16:22,399 And when I was lazy about it, was also stern enough to say, 308 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:24,318 "Stop wasting my time. 309 00:16:24,318 --> 00:16:27,237 Learn this or get out of my basement." 310 00:16:27,613 --> 00:16:29,865 But that was exactly what I needed to hear. 311 00:16:30,365 --> 00:16:31,783 An instrument is honest. 312 00:16:31,783 --> 00:16:33,535 If you don't practice, you suck. 313 00:16:33,911 --> 00:16:36,413 You can't lie to it. You can't just go, "Hey, I'm great." 314 00:16:36,413 --> 00:16:37,664 No, you're not great. 315 00:16:37,664 --> 00:16:40,834 If you put in the hours, that's the only thing. It's-it's honest. 316 00:16:40,834 --> 00:16:43,962 You put in the work, you get back the craft 317 00:16:43,962 --> 00:16:46,089 and then when you love it, you keep going forward, 318 00:16:46,089 --> 00:16:48,967 and then figure out songs and then, you know, it grows from there. 319 00:16:48,967 --> 00:16:52,471 And so then I worked hard, got my first calluses, 320 00:16:52,471 --> 00:16:54,515 and, uh, one thing led to another. 321 00:16:54,515 --> 00:16:57,768 And then you understood song structure. 322 00:16:57,768 --> 00:17:00,145 And when you looked at it like a little jigsaw puzzle, 323 00:17:00,145 --> 00:17:03,357 and the verse and the chorus and the bridge, you went, 324 00:17:03,357 --> 00:17:05,275 "Oh, it's like that." 325 00:17:06,777 --> 00:17:08,779 So then around that time, 326 00:17:08,779 --> 00:17:11,657 my very first band was in a talent show. 327 00:17:12,074 --> 00:17:13,492 And, you know, of course we lost. 328 00:17:13,492 --> 00:17:15,994 It was like right around, like, my bar mitzvah. 329 00:17:15,994 --> 00:17:19,456 My father got me a Farfisa Deluxe Combo organ 330 00:17:19,456 --> 00:17:20,874 and a Univox piano. 331 00:17:20,874 --> 00:17:23,669 He would always support my music habit. 332 00:17:23,669 --> 00:17:25,128 So I had great equipment. 333 00:17:25,629 --> 00:17:28,507 It's probably a part of me that needed to be seen 334 00:17:28,507 --> 00:17:31,468 by not people, by and large, 335 00:17:31,468 --> 00:17:34,638 but by those who love you the most. 336 00:17:35,138 --> 00:17:38,809 It wasn't as though I woke up one morning and was the best singer in the school 337 00:17:38,809 --> 00:17:42,354 or on the block or in my house. 338 00:17:42,354 --> 00:17:44,022 That's not saying much, 339 00:17:44,022 --> 00:17:46,400 but I just had a desire and a work ethic 340 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,653 that was always the driving force. 341 00:17:49,653 --> 00:17:51,655 He was just another kid from Jersey 342 00:17:51,655 --> 00:17:54,950 living a pretty routine life on this pretty routine suburban street 343 00:17:54,950 --> 00:17:57,786 in a house Ward and June Cleaver would have loved. 344 00:17:58,787 --> 00:18:00,289 In the town that I grew up in, 345 00:18:00,747 --> 00:18:03,041 the amount of kids that went to college were, 346 00:18:03,041 --> 00:18:05,169 I can't tell you they were even slim. 347 00:18:05,169 --> 00:18:07,337 They were really slim. 348 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:09,923 And I can remember all the parents were really happy 349 00:18:09,923 --> 00:18:12,551 about their boys being in a band and kept 'em off the streets 350 00:18:12,551 --> 00:18:14,386 and it kept them busy with something. 351 00:18:14,970 --> 00:18:17,264 But when it was time for these boys to graduate, 352 00:18:17,264 --> 00:18:20,225 parents said, "Okay, guys, it's time to grow up." 353 00:18:20,726 --> 00:18:24,563 You worked in the factory or you took up a trade. 354 00:18:25,355 --> 00:18:28,984 But it was something to be proud of, working in the trades. 355 00:18:29,526 --> 00:18:33,030 Uh, my father was a hairdresser, my grandfather was a plumber. 356 00:18:33,030 --> 00:18:35,449 These were considerations for me as a youth, 357 00:18:35,449 --> 00:18:37,034 simply because that's what we knew. 358 00:18:37,951 --> 00:18:39,912 My three best friends joined the service. 359 00:18:39,912 --> 00:18:41,121 Sir, yes, sir! 360 00:18:41,121 --> 00:18:45,501 It wasn't for me because I was already pursuing music. 361 00:18:45,501 --> 00:18:48,170 And we're coming up on beautiful Sayreville High School. 362 00:18:48,754 --> 00:18:51,632 The junior high for two years, you're supposed to go for three. 363 00:18:51,632 --> 00:18:54,218 So I left there to go to a different high school, 364 00:18:54,218 --> 00:18:55,427 'cause I was failing. 365 00:18:55,427 --> 00:19:00,849 So, um, I-I-I bolted from that school and went to Sayreville High School. 366 00:19:01,183 --> 00:19:04,353 I mean, I remember being in some kind of high school class 367 00:19:04,353 --> 00:19:07,064 and the singing teacher saying, "You haven't got it." 368 00:19:07,481 --> 00:19:10,150 Or my dad taking me to a singing lesson once 369 00:19:10,150 --> 00:19:12,986 and the guy basically saying, "I don't think so." 370 00:19:13,612 --> 00:19:16,114 I walked out of both of them saying, "I think so." 371 00:19:26,208 --> 00:19:27,459 - Hey, good to see you. - Hey, bud. 372 00:19:27,459 --> 00:19:28,585 - Everything alright? - Yep. 373 00:19:39,805 --> 00:19:42,683 You know, I have COVID brain fog like everyone else. 374 00:19:42,683 --> 00:19:46,186 Was it '18 or '19 when we were out last? 375 00:19:46,186 --> 00:19:48,730 I, honest to God, would have to look on a calendar. 376 00:19:49,273 --> 00:19:51,149 How was your weekend? 377 00:19:51,149 --> 00:19:52,943 Uh, wonderfully uneventful. 378 00:19:52,943 --> 00:19:54,903 - How 'bout yourself? - Oh, that's wonderful. 379 00:19:55,404 --> 00:19:57,155 Did you get any singing done or-- 380 00:19:57,155 --> 00:20:00,033 Uh, no, I didn't, but that's alright. 381 00:20:00,033 --> 00:20:02,369 - Awesome. Awesome. - I have been very ready 382 00:20:02,369 --> 00:20:04,371 and raring to go today. 383 00:20:04,788 --> 00:20:05,873 Excellent. 384 00:20:05,873 --> 00:20:07,207 Mm-hmm. 385 00:20:07,207 --> 00:20:09,793 I like how you took a couple minutes to do your look behinds, 386 00:20:09,793 --> 00:20:11,712 we're pressing up into the molars. 387 00:20:11,712 --> 00:20:14,339 And then on either side of the soft-- hard palate. 388 00:20:15,257 --> 00:20:18,093 I'm gonna guess it was the fall of '19. 389 00:20:18,594 --> 00:20:19,970 We were in South America. 390 00:20:20,470 --> 00:20:23,724 But I do remember at that time saying to myself, 391 00:20:24,266 --> 00:20:25,767 "Maybe it's time to walk away. 392 00:20:25,767 --> 00:20:27,060 Maybe it's time to cool it." 393 00:20:31,690 --> 00:20:35,652 And it's the idea of wanting to achieve excellence 394 00:20:35,652 --> 00:20:40,157 but also knowing the price that you pay to do that, 395 00:20:40,157 --> 00:20:42,576 physically, mentally, emotionally. 396 00:20:42,826 --> 00:20:46,330 Coming to terms with who I am now versus who I once was. 397 00:20:47,539 --> 00:20:52,294 As I got older and the drive to maintain that being 398 00:20:52,294 --> 00:20:55,923 on the stage, you know, it takes more and more. 399 00:20:56,298 --> 00:20:58,091 You're working that one. 400 00:20:58,091 --> 00:21:00,093 No, yeah, it's good. Good, good, good, good, good. 401 00:21:01,553 --> 00:21:04,139 For the New Jersey tour, I started to take, 402 00:21:04,139 --> 00:21:05,432 you know, vocal lessons, 403 00:21:05,432 --> 00:21:07,809 and I just got better and better and better as a singer. 404 00:21:09,102 --> 00:21:13,398 You know, 2008, '10, '13, I was great. I was really enjoying it. 405 00:21:15,025 --> 00:21:17,194 - Hmm, I don't like where it's going. - You got it. 406 00:21:17,194 --> 00:21:19,571 - I got it, though. - No, take your time with it. 407 00:21:19,571 --> 00:21:21,240 Take your time with it, it takes a minute. 408 00:21:27,579 --> 00:21:29,414 Good, rest for a second. Reset your body. 409 00:21:29,414 --> 00:21:31,458 - Yeah. - Let's do that again. 410 00:21:31,458 --> 00:21:35,337 But after '13 is when the problems really started. 411 00:21:35,796 --> 00:21:38,715 Just wasn't up to what I wanted it to be. 412 00:21:39,508 --> 00:21:41,927 And so, you know, the last couple years, 413 00:21:41,927 --> 00:21:43,804 I've just tried so many different things 414 00:21:43,804 --> 00:21:46,849 to get back to what I liked 10 years ago. 415 00:21:48,809 --> 00:21:51,687 And at 50, things change. 416 00:21:52,354 --> 00:21:54,773 And at 60 it's like, "Holy fuck." 417 00:21:59,069 --> 00:22:00,529 Is it tiring? No. 418 00:22:00,529 --> 00:22:01,697 But it's like a workout. 419 00:22:01,697 --> 00:22:05,576 You know, you feel like you did your... time 420 00:22:05,576 --> 00:22:09,288 and on a Monday morning, it's usually got a little bit of spider webs. 421 00:22:11,582 --> 00:22:16,879 This, uh, four-headed laser is aimed here at my cords 422 00:22:17,796 --> 00:22:19,673 and the vagal nerves. 423 00:22:20,132 --> 00:22:24,553 And what it does is it stimulates blood flow, 424 00:22:25,137 --> 00:22:28,348 trying to alleviate as much inflammation any way we can. 425 00:22:29,558 --> 00:22:31,643 There's three different vocal coaches, 426 00:22:32,603 --> 00:22:34,563 there's a couple different lasers, 427 00:22:35,147 --> 00:22:37,065 there's a boatload of vitamins. 428 00:22:37,774 --> 00:22:41,320 If I can't be the very best I can be, I'm out. 429 00:22:42,946 --> 00:22:44,531 I'm not here to drag down the legacy. 430 00:22:44,531 --> 00:22:46,450 I am not here for the "Where Are They Now" tour, 431 00:22:46,450 --> 00:22:48,410 I'm not ever gonna be the fat Elvis, 432 00:22:48,410 --> 00:22:49,995 ain't happening. 433 00:22:51,455 --> 00:22:53,749 But it took voodoo and science 434 00:22:53,749 --> 00:22:57,085 and a lot of hard work 435 00:22:57,085 --> 00:23:00,297 to get it to where I-I figure I can do this. 436 00:23:03,884 --> 00:23:07,221 It's got little cracks just from leaving it out. 437 00:23:09,139 --> 00:23:10,682 Alright, what else you wanna do? 438 00:23:17,689 --> 00:23:19,149 It's the late '70s. 439 00:23:19,149 --> 00:23:22,319 On my bedroom walls were the '70s icons, 440 00:23:22,319 --> 00:23:24,821 Led Zeppelin standing in front of that 747... 441 00:23:25,989 --> 00:23:30,244 ...Rolling Stones, Kiss, Lynyrd Skynyrd. 442 00:23:32,704 --> 00:23:33,872 That was impossible. 443 00:23:33,872 --> 00:23:36,416 ♪ Comin' home to you ♪ 444 00:23:36,416 --> 00:23:40,504 But 25 minutes south of Sayreville, New Jersey 445 00:23:40,504 --> 00:23:42,589 was this place that was making music. 446 00:23:42,589 --> 00:23:44,883 Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes. 447 00:23:44,883 --> 00:23:47,261 Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes. 448 00:23:47,928 --> 00:23:49,847 Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band. 449 00:23:50,764 --> 00:23:54,393 The songs that they wrote were from the places in which we came. 450 00:23:55,060 --> 00:23:58,146 The Stone Pony, a landmark in Asbury Park 451 00:23:58,146 --> 00:24:01,275 and the spawning ground for some of the greatest rock and roll. 452 00:24:01,275 --> 00:24:03,235 Southside Johnny and the Jukes. 453 00:24:04,903 --> 00:24:08,031 It's like a disease, you know, it, uh, never leaves you. 454 00:24:08,574 --> 00:24:12,244 A sexually transmitted disease, being from New Jersey. 455 00:24:12,244 --> 00:24:16,331 All across the East Coast an-and in Asbury Park is an amazing event. 456 00:24:16,331 --> 00:24:18,542 Well, Asbury Park was the happening place 457 00:24:18,542 --> 00:24:21,086 because there were a lot of bars with bands. 458 00:24:21,461 --> 00:24:23,422 So when we started playing, 459 00:24:23,422 --> 00:24:27,176 there was a bunch of clubs that we could get into. 460 00:24:28,177 --> 00:24:30,554 So it was a chance for all of us to go and jam 461 00:24:30,554 --> 00:24:33,390 and hone our skills and perform in front of an audience. 462 00:24:33,390 --> 00:24:36,226 And it was really a formative time, 463 00:24:36,226 --> 00:24:38,604 Bruce, Steve Van Zandt, Garry Tallent. 464 00:24:39,771 --> 00:24:41,982 And we just really wanted to find our own voices. 465 00:24:41,982 --> 00:24:44,568 [♪ "Love On The Wrong Side Of Town" by Bruce Springsteen playing] 466 00:24:45,402 --> 00:24:47,279 ♪ When I needed you by my side ♪ 467 00:24:47,279 --> 00:24:49,323 This concert was as hot as those hot dogs next door. 468 00:24:49,323 --> 00:24:51,325 It's hysteria, it's excitement. 469 00:24:51,325 --> 00:24:52,534 As I got a little older 470 00:24:52,534 --> 00:24:56,580 and with older friends able to go down to Asbury Park, 471 00:24:56,580 --> 00:24:58,707 there wasn't any chance 472 00:24:58,707 --> 00:25:01,293 that you wouldn't run into at least one of them 473 00:25:01,293 --> 00:25:03,253 on any given night. 474 00:25:03,253 --> 00:25:05,672 - All we wanna know... - Yeah? 475 00:25:05,672 --> 00:25:07,883 ...is what are you people doing in my town? 476 00:25:07,883 --> 00:25:09,343 - Right on! 477 00:25:09,343 --> 00:25:11,678 Steve Van Zandt and I saw Sam and Dave one time, 478 00:25:11,678 --> 00:25:13,347 and we thought, "That's what we want to do." 479 00:25:13,764 --> 00:25:17,643 And I thought, "My God, what an incredible thing to do 480 00:25:17,643 --> 00:25:20,270 to have all these people in the palm of your hand." 481 00:25:20,771 --> 00:25:23,273 For me, that was the kind of music that was alive. 482 00:25:23,273 --> 00:25:25,984 [♪ playing "This Time It's For Real" by Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes] 483 00:25:25,984 --> 00:25:28,445 ♪ Baby, don't slow me down ♪ 484 00:25:28,445 --> 00:25:31,949 ♪ I've come too far to ever turn around ♪ 485 00:25:31,949 --> 00:25:36,161 I think that we all learned from The Animals 486 00:25:36,161 --> 00:25:38,539 and the Rolling Stones and Paul Butterfield Blues Band 487 00:25:38,539 --> 00:25:41,291 that white people could play Black music, 488 00:25:41,792 --> 00:25:45,087 along with rock and roll, Jerry Lee Lewis and that kind of stuff. 489 00:25:45,587 --> 00:25:49,633 And I guess we started to influence people by doing what we wanted to do. 490 00:25:49,633 --> 00:25:52,886 And they thought, "Well, if these guys can do it, I can do it too." 491 00:25:53,595 --> 00:25:57,140 I was 16, and the drinking age was 18, 492 00:25:57,140 --> 00:25:59,393 which is really integral to this story, 493 00:25:59,393 --> 00:26:03,146 is at 16 you could sneak in pretending to be 18 494 00:26:03,146 --> 00:26:07,568 and seeing any one of those 10 members of The Asbury Jukes, 495 00:26:07,568 --> 00:26:09,778 seven members of the E Street Band... 496 00:26:11,655 --> 00:26:14,825 ...it made the impossible right there. 497 00:26:14,825 --> 00:26:17,077 One of the things that, uh, critics have been saying 498 00:26:17,077 --> 00:26:18,745 about rock and roll in the '70s 499 00:26:18,745 --> 00:26:20,414 is that there's been very little substance. 500 00:26:20,414 --> 00:26:22,916 Well, ladies and gentlemen, I'm here to tell you Bruce Springsteen 501 00:26:22,916 --> 00:26:25,210 and the E Street Band are substance. 502 00:26:25,210 --> 00:26:28,046 No one wanted to be associated with New Jersey. 503 00:26:28,046 --> 00:26:30,966 I mean, even when I went to make my first record, 504 00:26:30,966 --> 00:26:33,552 they wanted me to say I was a New York-based artist. 505 00:26:33,552 --> 00:26:37,389 [♪ "The Promised Land" by Bruce Springsteen and E Street Band plays] 506 00:26:41,101 --> 00:26:44,771 ♪ On a rattlesnake speedway in the Utah desert ♪ 507 00:26:44,771 --> 00:26:47,941 ♪ I pick up my money and head back into town ♪ 508 00:26:47,941 --> 00:26:50,903 It was unusual at the time 509 00:26:50,903 --> 00:26:54,740 for an artist to identify himself with New Jersey 510 00:26:55,157 --> 00:26:57,534 and all of its glories, you know? 511 00:26:58,452 --> 00:27:01,163 I just sort of embraced it as my identity, 512 00:27:01,163 --> 00:27:03,999 the Boardwalk and Asbury Park 513 00:27:03,999 --> 00:27:06,585 and all the street people from the city. 514 00:27:06,585 --> 00:27:09,755 And I said, "Yeah, these are the people I want to write about, 515 00:27:09,755 --> 00:27:12,591 and this is who I want to be and who I am." 516 00:27:13,425 --> 00:27:17,554 Now you could touch the dream, 'cause there it was. 517 00:27:17,554 --> 00:27:20,098 It wasn't those pictures on my wall that you think 518 00:27:20,724 --> 00:27:24,144 I aspire to be, you know, Led Zeppelin. 519 00:27:24,144 --> 00:27:26,063 It was way too big for me to fathom. 520 00:27:26,647 --> 00:27:27,981 Let's go! 521 00:27:29,816 --> 00:27:31,151 But those guys, 522 00:27:31,693 --> 00:27:35,531 who were singing about the highway that was out our window, 523 00:27:35,948 --> 00:27:38,408 that made it incredibly possible. 524 00:27:38,408 --> 00:27:42,204 ♪ And I believe in a promised land ♪ 525 00:27:45,499 --> 00:27:48,919 By the time I was 17, 526 00:27:49,461 --> 00:27:52,798 I was sneaking into those bars and, and performing 527 00:27:53,674 --> 00:27:56,760 with the Atlantic City Expressway, my first real band. 528 00:27:59,346 --> 00:28:01,181 The bass player's name was Steve Pretti. 529 00:28:01,181 --> 00:28:03,559 He was one of the three guys that joined the Navy. 530 00:28:04,601 --> 00:28:07,479 The guy I went to high school with, by the name of Willie Hercek, 531 00:28:07,479 --> 00:28:11,650 he was really into the whole Asbury sound and taught me a lot about it. 532 00:28:11,650 --> 00:28:14,736 And he was in the Expressway, right at the inception. 533 00:28:14,736 --> 00:28:19,783 His father owned a bar in Perth Amboy, 534 00:28:20,534 --> 00:28:23,537 and Willie told me about David. 535 00:28:24,329 --> 00:28:27,207 David's father owned a surgical supply store 536 00:28:27,207 --> 00:28:29,918 in Perth Amboy and had a van. 537 00:28:29,918 --> 00:28:32,921 I got the gig just because of the equipment, and I had a van. 538 00:28:33,422 --> 00:28:35,632 He had a Hammond organ in the van. He's in the band. 539 00:28:35,632 --> 00:28:38,385 I don't care what he looks like or what he plays, he's in. 540 00:28:38,385 --> 00:28:40,846 And that's when I had a big Hammond organ like this, 541 00:28:40,846 --> 00:28:42,514 a big Hammond, and I had this piano, 542 00:28:42,514 --> 00:28:44,141 I had all this equipment by then. 543 00:28:44,141 --> 00:28:45,601 He could play. 544 00:28:45,601 --> 00:28:49,271 He was, he was the kid who took lessons for real. 545 00:28:49,271 --> 00:28:51,940 He was a far better musician than I was. 546 00:28:51,940 --> 00:28:53,483 I'm like, "Great, where does he live?" 547 00:28:53,483 --> 00:28:54,902 I'm like, "Sayreville." I'm like, "Okay." 548 00:28:54,902 --> 00:28:56,320 It's right across the bridge. 549 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,779 They did a cover band. 550 00:28:57,779 --> 00:29:00,490 They were like Springsteen and Jukes and a couple originals. 551 00:29:00,490 --> 00:29:04,244 And at the time I knew Born to Run and We're Having a Party. 552 00:29:04,244 --> 00:29:08,999 And so Dave fit, you know, we carried that son of a gun B three 553 00:29:08,999 --> 00:29:11,376 down into the bass player's mother's house and set it up. 554 00:29:11,376 --> 00:29:15,714 And between that and the horns and the two loud electric guitars... 555 00:29:16,757 --> 00:29:17,799 it was the sound of a band. 556 00:29:20,260 --> 00:29:24,598 I wasn't into that kind of blue-eyed soul and soul music. 557 00:29:24,598 --> 00:29:26,517 And, uh, it just won my heart over. 558 00:29:26,517 --> 00:29:28,769 I was like, "Wow, five horns, everybody's loud. 559 00:29:28,769 --> 00:29:31,230 There's like 10 people making music." 560 00:29:37,402 --> 00:29:40,030 It was the closest to God-like I think you could ever get. 561 00:29:40,030 --> 00:29:41,615 I was like, "I need to do this." 562 00:29:42,908 --> 00:29:44,701 ♪ I know it's been a long time ♪ 563 00:29:44,701 --> 00:29:47,621 The Expressways now playing high school dances 564 00:29:47,621 --> 00:29:51,166 and a bar emulating Southside Johnny. 565 00:29:52,209 --> 00:29:54,253 And fortunately, back in Asbury Park, 566 00:29:54,253 --> 00:29:56,713 in the late '70s and early '80s, 567 00:29:57,047 --> 00:29:59,007 there was a place called The Fast Lane. 568 00:29:59,383 --> 00:30:03,053 And that's where David used to do his high school homework. 569 00:30:03,053 --> 00:30:04,847 And when we did the first gig, I was like, 570 00:30:04,847 --> 00:30:07,266 "Wow, he's great. This is great. 571 00:30:07,266 --> 00:30:08,433 "The money's not great. 572 00:30:08,809 --> 00:30:10,978 We got, like, 150 bucks for 10 people." 573 00:30:11,478 --> 00:30:13,647 You had gas, and you had the bar bill. 574 00:30:13,647 --> 00:30:14,940 So there was no money in it, 575 00:30:14,940 --> 00:30:18,026 and that wasn't what any of us were motivated by. 576 00:30:18,026 --> 00:30:19,570 We had to pay a buck a beer. 577 00:30:19,570 --> 00:30:22,531 So I think I ended up being in the hole every night. 578 00:30:22,531 --> 00:30:24,116 But I cheated him out of like 10 bucks 579 00:30:24,116 --> 00:30:26,243 for gas money or something, I was-- Don't tell anybody. 580 00:30:27,995 --> 00:30:31,707 You know, when you're that young and naive, 581 00:30:32,416 --> 00:30:34,877 blind faith is enough to get you by. 582 00:30:34,877 --> 00:30:36,461 Alright! Thank you very much. 583 00:30:36,461 --> 00:30:38,130 I'd like to remind you of the name of the group, 584 00:30:38,130 --> 00:30:39,965 we're the Atlantic City Expressway. 585 00:30:39,965 --> 00:30:41,800 We stole that sign off the highway. 586 00:30:42,885 --> 00:30:44,970 It was him, officer, it was him. 587 00:30:46,263 --> 00:30:47,931 We would play the Fast Lane, 588 00:30:47,931 --> 00:30:49,850 then we would play up and down the Jersey Shore. 589 00:30:49,850 --> 00:30:51,476 There was a lot of clubs you could play. 590 00:30:51,476 --> 00:30:54,313 And that's when, you know, we'd go to get the van 591 00:30:54,313 --> 00:30:57,816 to fill it with gear and drive down to do a show. 592 00:31:00,611 --> 00:31:02,029 I'd get done playing, 593 00:31:02,029 --> 00:31:04,198 I'd get all the equipment and the horn players, 594 00:31:04,656 --> 00:31:07,117 drive back up to Sayreville, drop them off, 595 00:31:07,117 --> 00:31:09,119 go over the bridge, go into Perth Amboy, 596 00:31:09,870 --> 00:31:12,706 drop all the shit off into my father's warehouse, 597 00:31:12,706 --> 00:31:15,042 get my car, get back home at 5:00 in the morning, 598 00:31:15,042 --> 00:31:16,710 and I have to get up at 7:00 for high school. 599 00:31:17,002 --> 00:31:20,130 So I was, uh, just trying to survive. 600 00:31:21,006 --> 00:31:25,177 What was wonderful about my parents and their support of it was, 601 00:31:25,177 --> 00:31:27,888 they said, "We knew you were in a bar until 2:00 in the morning, 602 00:31:27,888 --> 00:31:29,932 "but at least we knew where you were. 603 00:31:30,390 --> 00:31:32,518 "And if we had seen that you were 604 00:31:32,851 --> 00:31:36,563 "not working at this every day, all day, 605 00:31:36,563 --> 00:31:38,482 "we may have had to step in and say, 606 00:31:38,941 --> 00:31:42,694 "'Wait a minute, son, you have to go apply for a trade.'" 607 00:31:42,694 --> 00:31:45,405 Saw them at the Fast Lane, when he was like 17 years old. 608 00:31:45,405 --> 00:31:48,450 And I was very impressed with his stage presence 609 00:31:48,450 --> 00:31:50,077 and you know, all of that. 610 00:31:50,702 --> 00:31:53,163 He really hadn't found himself yet. 611 00:31:53,163 --> 00:31:55,290 If you want anything in this world, 612 00:31:55,290 --> 00:31:57,417 if you want it bad enough, 613 00:31:58,460 --> 00:31:59,753 anything is possible. 614 00:32:00,295 --> 00:32:02,297 I remember we'd have to walk to high school. 615 00:32:02,297 --> 00:32:05,843 I was always talking about things like, "This is our tour jacket." 616 00:32:07,344 --> 00:32:10,597 Not so much, you know, practicing four days a week, 617 00:32:10,597 --> 00:32:12,558 but we need a photo session 618 00:32:12,558 --> 00:32:16,186 and we need to see Southside somewhere. 619 00:32:16,687 --> 00:32:20,315 So all those great memories of what was Asbury 620 00:32:20,315 --> 00:32:22,734 and what was, uh, original music 621 00:32:22,734 --> 00:32:26,864 and what was a community of up-and-coming musicians 622 00:32:26,864 --> 00:32:29,366 as well as those who had already landed record deals. 623 00:32:29,825 --> 00:32:32,995 The pinnacle of all of this was a record deal. 624 00:32:33,996 --> 00:32:36,999 Once Bruce got his record contract, 625 00:32:36,999 --> 00:32:38,959 all of a sudden, we were more respectable. 626 00:32:38,959 --> 00:32:41,920 And then when Born To Run came out, 627 00:32:42,504 --> 00:32:45,382 all of a sudden, everybody wanted to sign somebody from New Jersey. 628 00:32:46,175 --> 00:32:51,388 In 1979, I was singing a song off of 629 00:32:51,763 --> 00:32:53,724 that album called Darkness on the Edge of Town. 630 00:32:54,683 --> 00:32:58,812 And I looked up, and there's Bruce on stage with me. 631 00:33:00,647 --> 00:33:02,858 ♪ ...dark cloud rising from the desert floor ♪ 632 00:33:02,858 --> 00:33:07,446 ♪ I packed my bags and I'm heading straight into the storm ♪ 633 00:33:07,446 --> 00:33:08,947 That was the guy, you know? 634 00:33:08,947 --> 00:33:11,241 And he jumps up and sings his song with me. 635 00:33:11,241 --> 00:33:14,036 And I like to play. I like to play, you know? 636 00:33:14,036 --> 00:33:16,663 ♪ Blow away the dreams that tear you... ♪ 637 00:33:16,663 --> 00:33:18,248 I think that was what-- 638 00:33:18,248 --> 00:33:20,834 well, there's some young kid around here from New Jersey 639 00:33:20,834 --> 00:33:22,628 who's making some kind of noise, you know? 640 00:33:22,628 --> 00:33:24,880 That was the first thing I knew about Jon. 641 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,550 He is a hardworking guy, you know, put everything he had into his music. 642 00:33:28,550 --> 00:33:29,635 We did Promised Land. 643 00:33:29,635 --> 00:33:31,929 It was the second verse, I still have a cassette tape of it. 644 00:33:31,929 --> 00:33:34,264 And it was like, "Oh, my God, that's Bruce. He's singing with us." 645 00:33:34,264 --> 00:33:38,393 ♪ And I believe in a promised land ♪ 646 00:33:38,393 --> 00:33:41,021 So you go to high school the next day, needless to say, 647 00:33:41,021 --> 00:33:43,232 you look at the teacher and you look at the kids and you go... 648 00:33:44,942 --> 00:33:46,193 "I got a story to tell." 649 00:33:46,193 --> 00:33:48,445 And it's a lot better than history class. 650 00:33:48,445 --> 00:33:51,615 Bruce and, and anyone else in that band, 651 00:33:51,615 --> 00:33:53,784 or you know, in that whole clique down there, 652 00:33:53,784 --> 00:33:58,080 was always very, very, very supportive of-of myself 653 00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,706 and the groups that I played in. 654 00:34:01,291 --> 00:34:05,629 It made me even more single-mindedly focused 655 00:34:06,171 --> 00:34:08,882 that the impossible was well within reach. 656 00:34:09,633 --> 00:34:12,970 Shortly thereafter, I stopped playing covers. 657 00:34:13,387 --> 00:34:15,556 I stopped being in, in any band 658 00:34:15,556 --> 00:34:17,933 who was gonna rely on playing other people's material. 659 00:34:18,350 --> 00:34:21,895 In our senior year, then Jon, uh, then Jon quit. 660 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,066 By the beginning of 1980, 661 00:34:26,066 --> 00:34:30,445 in my senior year of high school, I quit my own cover band. 662 00:34:31,321 --> 00:34:33,031 But I said, "I'm out. I have to go. 663 00:34:33,031 --> 00:34:35,617 I gotta go figure this out the right way." 664 00:34:35,993 --> 00:34:38,745 He had a vision to know that if you're gonna be in a cover band, 665 00:34:38,745 --> 00:34:40,289 you're gonna play somebody else's music. 666 00:34:40,747 --> 00:34:42,207 And if you're an original band, 667 00:34:42,624 --> 00:34:44,501 you're gonna have cover bands playing your music. 668 00:34:45,210 --> 00:34:46,962 And that's the only road to the future. 669 00:34:46,962 --> 00:34:50,174 I joined someone else's band, wasn't my vision, 670 00:34:50,174 --> 00:34:52,384 wasn't my band, I was just the singer. 671 00:34:53,051 --> 00:34:54,761 I didn't know enough about songwriting 672 00:34:54,761 --> 00:34:56,847 and I certainly hadn't written enough songs yet. 673 00:34:57,431 --> 00:35:01,018 So I would rather make no money and learn the craft 674 00:35:01,018 --> 00:35:03,896 because that was the only way that there'd be longevity. 675 00:35:03,896 --> 00:35:06,190 Songwriting is the hardest thing to do 676 00:35:06,190 --> 00:35:07,649 and the most satisfying. 677 00:35:07,649 --> 00:35:09,276 When you come up with something that you go, 678 00:35:09,276 --> 00:35:12,696 "Oh, yeah, that's it. That's what I was trying to say." 679 00:35:12,696 --> 00:35:14,656 Because you have to have an idea, 680 00:35:15,199 --> 00:35:17,826 and you have to have thought about something, hopefully. 681 00:35:17,826 --> 00:35:19,453 And the deeper you've thought about it, 682 00:35:19,453 --> 00:35:22,456 probably the better your song is to a certain degree, you know? 683 00:35:22,998 --> 00:35:25,167 So going and joining someone's band 684 00:35:25,709 --> 00:35:28,504 was again, a teachable moment. 685 00:35:28,504 --> 00:35:30,047 A, I didn't know how to do it. 686 00:35:30,047 --> 00:35:32,508 And B, you learn what not to do. 687 00:35:33,008 --> 00:35:37,804 Most importantly, don't not be a visionary. 688 00:35:38,138 --> 00:35:41,058 There was no way that I could live and die 689 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:43,310 on someone else's decisions, 690 00:35:43,727 --> 00:35:45,229 and The Rest didn't last very long. 691 00:35:45,896 --> 00:35:49,733 He had that real desire to prove himself, 692 00:35:50,067 --> 00:35:51,944 'cause we had to, you know? 693 00:35:51,944 --> 00:35:54,988 We weren't from New York or LA or whatever. 694 00:35:55,364 --> 00:35:58,075 He just had that energy, that edge. 695 00:35:58,450 --> 00:36:00,994 He's gonna make it work. He'll find a way. 696 00:36:00,994 --> 00:36:03,580 I like our audiences to come to see us 697 00:36:04,206 --> 00:36:06,416 and to sweat as much as I sweat on the stage. 698 00:36:06,416 --> 00:36:08,752 You know? Or if I can get them to sweat half as much as I do, 699 00:36:08,752 --> 00:36:10,254 I know I've had a successful show. 700 00:36:10,254 --> 00:36:13,841 To me, your heart is, is 80% of the whole thing. 701 00:36:14,216 --> 00:36:15,884 Thank you. Thank you very much. 702 00:36:15,884 --> 00:36:17,469 Good evening, welcome down to The Fast Lane. 703 00:36:17,469 --> 00:36:19,429 We'll be here tomorrow night and every Wednesday night. 704 00:36:19,429 --> 00:36:21,807 Come on down, free admission. Drinks are a buck. 705 00:36:22,140 --> 00:36:23,809 - Come down this weekend. 706 00:36:23,809 --> 00:36:25,561 You know, there's two different kind of frontmen. 707 00:36:25,561 --> 00:36:27,187 There's the guys that stand there and just go, 708 00:36:27,187 --> 00:36:28,438 "Here's our next song. 709 00:36:29,439 --> 00:36:31,275 Here's our next song. Thank you." 710 00:36:31,275 --> 00:36:32,693 And there are the guys like him that go, 711 00:36:32,693 --> 00:36:34,278 "Tip your bartenders. How you doing tonight? 712 00:36:34,278 --> 00:36:36,196 "We're gonna get this together. Put your hands together. 713 00:36:36,196 --> 00:36:38,198 We're gonna be there. We're all together. Hands up, clap." 714 00:36:38,198 --> 00:36:40,492 Which was, uh, more of the Jersey school 715 00:36:40,492 --> 00:36:42,661 like, you know, a banter between you and the audience, 716 00:36:42,661 --> 00:36:44,288 and then make the whole thing one. 717 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:48,750 From '79, '80, I'm playing down in Asbury a lot, 718 00:36:48,750 --> 00:36:52,171 starting with The Expressway into being the singer of The Rest 719 00:36:52,171 --> 00:36:53,839 to now having my own band. 720 00:36:53,839 --> 00:36:55,507 Writing on my own, 721 00:36:55,507 --> 00:36:58,010 Jon Bongiovi and the Wild Ones is born. 722 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,262 It's not easy 'cause there's no money. 723 00:37:00,262 --> 00:37:03,015 There's not even opportunity when you're playing original stuff. 724 00:37:03,557 --> 00:37:05,642 You know, you're writing about cars and girls. 725 00:37:05,642 --> 00:37:06,977 What else was there? 726 00:37:06,977 --> 00:37:09,188 Those of you have, um, seen us before, 727 00:37:09,188 --> 00:37:11,481 I'm very anxious to get down to the new stuff. 728 00:37:11,481 --> 00:37:13,650 - This is something new. 729 00:37:13,650 --> 00:37:16,486 This is by the Wild Ones. This is for the wild ones. 730 00:37:16,486 --> 00:37:18,655 - Yeah! - This one's named after the band. 731 00:37:18,655 --> 00:37:20,073 And this one's called The Wild One. 732 00:37:20,073 --> 00:37:22,284 - Yeah! - And this has gotta be for you. 733 00:37:26,288 --> 00:37:29,124 And at that time, that's when I was a Wild One 734 00:37:29,124 --> 00:37:32,461 and, um, I graduated high school and then I was going to Rutgers. 735 00:37:32,461 --> 00:37:35,756 So once again, I found myself having to go to school again. 736 00:37:37,799 --> 00:37:39,718 David was going to college. 737 00:37:39,718 --> 00:37:42,804 His nice Jewish mother wanted him to be a doctor. 738 00:37:43,263 --> 00:37:45,933 There was no plan B in my life ever. 739 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:47,976 It was all or nothing. 740 00:37:47,976 --> 00:37:51,355 - Thank you, thank you. 741 00:37:52,856 --> 00:37:57,736 In September of 1980, I call a second cousin of mine 742 00:37:57,736 --> 00:38:00,364 who was a recording engineer, produced the first Talking Heads record, 743 00:38:00,364 --> 00:38:03,367 the first Ramones record, who had seen The Rest perform. 744 00:38:03,367 --> 00:38:06,203 Had told my dad, "The band stinks, 745 00:38:06,203 --> 00:38:08,163 but the kid's got something going for him." 746 00:38:08,163 --> 00:38:11,959 Never met the guy, but obviously curious about my future. 747 00:38:11,959 --> 00:38:14,920 He allowed me to be a gopher at the Power Station. 748 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,172 I would go run to the bank, the dry cleaner, 749 00:38:17,172 --> 00:38:21,134 the food pickup, the OTB, make the horse bets. 750 00:38:21,677 --> 00:38:24,096 Anyone and everyone would've given their right arm 751 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,139 to work at the Power Station. 752 00:38:27,015 --> 00:38:29,643 And so sometimes you had to bring girls, sometimes you had to bring drugs, 753 00:38:29,643 --> 00:38:31,937 sometimes you had to do favors, sometimes you had to do stuff. 754 00:38:32,521 --> 00:38:33,689 And I met Obie there. 755 00:38:34,314 --> 00:38:37,359 He was quite the character, to say the least. 756 00:38:37,901 --> 00:38:40,487 I was working at the Power Station. 757 00:38:40,487 --> 00:38:44,616 I was doing projects for Jon's cousin, Tony Bongiovi. 758 00:38:45,367 --> 00:38:47,286 They gave me the opportunity 759 00:38:47,286 --> 00:38:50,080 to-to record on weekends and nights. 760 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,291 So we would go in at, like, 4:00 in the morning 761 00:38:52,291 --> 00:38:55,794 till 10:00 in the morning and start doing original songs. 762 00:38:55,794 --> 00:38:57,921 He played songs for me that he was working on. 763 00:38:58,714 --> 00:39:01,216 And he was so energetic about it. 764 00:39:01,925 --> 00:39:04,303 You know, there are people sometimes when they walk in the room, 765 00:39:04,303 --> 00:39:05,804 you go, "That's somebody." 766 00:39:06,513 --> 00:39:11,101 The Power Station was the epicenter of record making. 767 00:39:11,643 --> 00:39:15,314 I watched through the window the Rolling Stones. 768 00:39:15,314 --> 00:39:18,358 I saw Queen and Bowie doing Under Pressure. 769 00:39:18,775 --> 00:39:22,362 To see Kiss, to see Diana Ross. 770 00:39:22,779 --> 00:39:25,365 You know, Stevie Tyler would let me sit in the studio 771 00:39:25,365 --> 00:39:27,075 one night, 3:00, 4:00 in the morning 772 00:39:27,075 --> 00:39:29,077 and I was the only guy in there watching him singing. 773 00:39:29,077 --> 00:39:30,537 And that's one of your idols, you know, 774 00:39:30,537 --> 00:39:32,164 watching Aerosmith working on a record. 775 00:39:32,164 --> 00:39:35,792 He just wasn't the cleanup guy. He asked questions. 776 00:39:35,792 --> 00:39:37,920 He saw how a console worked. 777 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,546 He saw how the engineers worked. 778 00:39:39,546 --> 00:39:42,257 He saw how producers worked. He took it all in. 779 00:39:42,549 --> 00:39:44,510 And when he was done working at the studio all day, 780 00:39:44,510 --> 00:39:47,429 he was writing, sleeping, you know, on the floor. 781 00:39:47,429 --> 00:39:49,598 I had a, I don't know 782 00:39:49,598 --> 00:39:54,061 if I had a vision or I was just more faithful than everyone else, 783 00:39:54,061 --> 00:39:55,812 but that really played into it. 784 00:39:56,647 --> 00:39:59,149 We're going there, I'm doing this. 785 00:40:00,817 --> 00:40:01,818 Who wants to come? 786 00:40:30,597 --> 00:40:32,641 So the purpose of doing that, 787 00:40:33,267 --> 00:40:35,102 so your tongue doesn't get tight 788 00:40:35,727 --> 00:40:38,856 and then it restricts everything else 789 00:40:38,856 --> 00:40:40,440 that covers the larynx. 790 00:40:41,275 --> 00:40:42,985 It's like if you ran a marathon, 791 00:40:42,985 --> 00:40:45,821 would you... walk it off 792 00:40:45,821 --> 00:40:49,157 or would you lay down and go to bed? 793 00:40:49,157 --> 00:40:50,701 The answer is you'd walk it off. 794 00:40:51,201 --> 00:40:53,620 So if you just take 10 or 15 minutes, 795 00:40:53,620 --> 00:40:56,331 do some cool-down exercises like that, 796 00:40:57,207 --> 00:41:00,085 it makes tomorrow morning a pleasant experience. 797 00:41:05,632 --> 00:41:08,677 So everybody feels physically tired, right? 798 00:41:08,677 --> 00:41:10,846 - Yeah, yeah. 799 00:41:10,846 --> 00:41:12,306 - Yeah. - Yes. 800 00:41:12,723 --> 00:41:13,807 It's okay, man. 801 00:41:14,558 --> 00:41:16,852 You are not alone, my brother. 802 00:41:16,852 --> 00:41:19,479 - Okay. - I think this is gonna take us a minute... 803 00:41:20,564 --> 00:41:22,399 - Gotta check. - ...to get back into this. 804 00:41:22,399 --> 00:41:25,485 - Oh, yeah. - You were standing this whole time. 805 00:41:25,485 --> 00:41:27,863 - Did you sleep last night? - Like a motherfucker. 806 00:41:27,863 --> 00:41:31,950 I think it's a hunt. I think the hunt of getting alright is draining. 807 00:41:32,993 --> 00:41:34,369 Day one. 808 00:41:34,369 --> 00:41:35,746 It's also stress. 809 00:41:35,746 --> 00:41:37,748 You know me, I wanna sing. 810 00:41:37,748 --> 00:41:40,501 I wanna sing. I wanna sing. I just wanna make sure... 811 00:41:40,959 --> 00:41:43,545 - That everybody's tight. - Yes. 812 00:41:43,545 --> 00:41:45,672 If I'm gonna be tired, I want to just know that, 813 00:41:45,672 --> 00:41:47,966 you know, I'm not pushing myself that hard. 814 00:42:01,188 --> 00:42:04,107 Well, in as much as you're aware 815 00:42:04,107 --> 00:42:09,404 that it is what you have been defined by for so long. 816 00:42:10,113 --> 00:42:11,615 But I'm not gonna get any bigger. 817 00:42:12,491 --> 00:42:17,120 So for me, now it's just maintaining it at a level 818 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:20,415 that I'm A, having joy, 819 00:42:20,832 --> 00:42:23,126 and B, I'm good at. 820 00:42:24,378 --> 00:42:28,757 But holy fuck have I worked, I've never worked so hard. 821 00:42:29,758 --> 00:42:32,302 You know, you realize how easily it came to you... 822 00:42:33,846 --> 00:42:35,514 and then it changes as you get older. 823 00:42:35,514 --> 00:42:37,599 You gotta work so much harder. 824 00:42:38,892 --> 00:42:41,478 It's not definitive that I'm gonna do a 40th. 825 00:42:43,856 --> 00:42:47,150 It's all a byproduct of for what? 826 00:42:50,112 --> 00:42:52,614 So this is day 13 of rehearsals, 827 00:42:52,614 --> 00:42:54,449 the last day... 828 00:42:55,742 --> 00:42:56,952 of rehearsing. 829 00:42:58,579 --> 00:42:59,705 It's been great. 830 00:43:01,164 --> 00:43:04,960 We've never rehearsed 13 days for any tour, ever. 831 00:43:12,676 --> 00:43:14,094 One observation. 832 00:43:15,179 --> 00:43:18,515 This show was absolutely sitting at about 2:40. 833 00:43:20,434 --> 00:43:21,602 We could cut down. 834 00:43:22,436 --> 00:43:25,439 I could cut down a easy 20 minutes 835 00:43:25,439 --> 00:43:28,192 and still give them way more than they ever thought. 836 00:43:28,192 --> 00:43:29,568 That's too long, right? 837 00:43:29,568 --> 00:43:31,236 It doesn't have to be that right now. 838 00:43:31,236 --> 00:43:32,696 It can be, but it doesn't have to be. 839 00:43:33,238 --> 00:43:34,489 It's been a number of years 840 00:43:34,489 --> 00:43:37,034 since I was doing those three-kind-of-hour shows. 841 00:43:37,034 --> 00:43:40,245 It takes a lot of physical and vocal strength. 842 00:43:40,579 --> 00:43:42,581 We certainly have the catalog of music. 843 00:43:43,123 --> 00:43:45,417 My aspiration is to get back to that. 844 00:43:48,879 --> 00:43:50,422 I mean, I just turned 60, 845 00:43:50,422 --> 00:43:51,632 Jon and I just turned 60 846 00:43:51,632 --> 00:43:54,968 so we're definitely not young, but I feel like I'm 18. 847 00:43:54,968 --> 00:43:57,262 You know, it's like eternal. And then you look on stage 848 00:43:57,262 --> 00:43:59,181 and we all know we have each other's backs. 849 00:43:59,181 --> 00:44:00,641 We're together. We're a unit. 850 00:44:00,641 --> 00:44:01,725 Good. 851 00:44:01,725 --> 00:44:03,352 You know, you're not up there alone. 852 00:44:04,561 --> 00:44:06,605 One other crazy observation, 853 00:44:06,980 --> 00:44:11,443 we could end the set with Prayer 854 00:44:11,818 --> 00:44:15,030 and have Medicine be just more raucous 855 00:44:15,030 --> 00:44:17,324 at the very end of the night. 856 00:44:17,324 --> 00:44:18,951 - You know? Um... - I'll switch 'em. 857 00:44:25,791 --> 00:44:29,002 It was that, to me was where I thought there might have been a lull, 858 00:44:29,419 --> 00:44:30,879 but they're both so easy to sing. 859 00:44:32,339 --> 00:44:35,634 And then, the potential of doing This House, Prayer, 860 00:44:35,634 --> 00:44:37,261 and then Love's the Only Rule, Medicine, 861 00:44:37,261 --> 00:44:39,513 then they're like, show-stopping, fun, upbeat, 862 00:44:39,513 --> 00:44:40,848 bit of a boom, boom, you know? 863 00:44:42,474 --> 00:44:44,059 Okay, let's warm up a bit. 864 00:44:47,020 --> 00:44:49,022 That first week, we started working songs 865 00:44:49,022 --> 00:44:50,899 and working songs, and everything was tired 866 00:44:51,525 --> 00:44:53,694 'cause it was-- Jon was going through his challenges 867 00:44:53,694 --> 00:44:56,738 and he had to figure it out for himself. 868 00:44:57,364 --> 00:44:59,700 Second week is a little less exhausting. 869 00:45:00,409 --> 00:45:02,744 Third week was like, "Okay, I'm good." 870 00:45:04,037 --> 00:45:08,375 I don't need adulation. That's not what fuels me. 871 00:45:08,834 --> 00:45:11,378 It's changed with time, you know, 872 00:45:11,378 --> 00:45:13,088 and a better understanding of who you are, 873 00:45:13,088 --> 00:45:15,507 why you did things, and why you continue to do things, 874 00:45:15,507 --> 00:45:18,385 when you get to a level that is much deeper 875 00:45:18,385 --> 00:45:20,012 than girls and guitars. 876 00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:23,223 You know, we're still standing. 877 00:45:23,223 --> 00:45:25,475 We're one of the biggest bands in the world. It keeps happening. 878 00:45:25,475 --> 00:45:27,853 And I'm fortunate because that's a blessing to me, 879 00:45:27,853 --> 00:45:30,439 is that you get to keep doing what you love to do 880 00:45:30,439 --> 00:45:34,276 and you don't have to either fizzle out or retire. 881 00:45:35,068 --> 00:45:38,739 It's really so joyful to do what you're made to do and love. 882 00:45:40,824 --> 00:45:45,204 Forty years doing anything is reason to pause 883 00:45:45,204 --> 00:45:48,415 and to acknowledge and to celebrate, 884 00:45:48,832 --> 00:45:52,628 to look around at those who helped you along the way. 885 00:45:52,628 --> 00:45:54,671 And there are hundreds of them 886 00:45:55,380 --> 00:45:57,966 that all helped tell this story today. 887 00:45:58,592 --> 00:46:01,220 You know, I'm just the ringleader in that circus. 888 00:46:08,060 --> 00:46:11,605 Rock and roll has not been a parent's favorite thing since Elvis, 889 00:46:11,605 --> 00:46:13,815 but, uh, remind your parents that they were kids 890 00:46:13,815 --> 00:46:16,068 when Elvis and The Beatles were, uh, big, 891 00:46:16,068 --> 00:46:17,861 you know, current stars. 892 00:46:17,861 --> 00:46:20,364 When you guys all grow up and your kids look at you 893 00:46:20,364 --> 00:46:22,699 and they go, "Who was that Bon Jovi band? 894 00:46:22,699 --> 00:46:24,701 You know, those old guys with long hair?" 895 00:46:24,701 --> 00:46:27,538 - We can all have a laugh over this... 896 00:46:27,538 --> 00:46:30,123 ...and, you know, they have to, they have to understand 897 00:46:30,123 --> 00:46:34,044 that, that rock and roll is, is our way of, uh, of letting out 898 00:46:34,044 --> 00:46:36,672 a lot of excess energy, you know? 899 00:46:38,382 --> 00:46:41,718 As a kid, I was taking the New Jersey Transit bus 900 00:46:41,718 --> 00:46:42,970 into New York City. 901 00:46:43,220 --> 00:46:44,221 And I was observant. 902 00:46:44,596 --> 00:46:47,224 There was a lot of kids workin' the street. 903 00:46:47,224 --> 00:46:49,768 You know, New York was pretty rough and tumble back then, 904 00:46:49,768 --> 00:46:52,020 and there was a lot of streetwalkers. 905 00:46:53,188 --> 00:46:55,858 So, Runaway was an observation. 906 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,069 That was just one of, you know, a bunch of songs I had written 907 00:46:59,069 --> 00:47:00,654 or co-written at that time. 908 00:47:01,405 --> 00:47:03,323 And I didn't have a band. 909 00:47:03,323 --> 00:47:06,577 We had done, uh, Runaway in the studio with, uh... 910 00:47:06,577 --> 00:47:08,036 ♪ Da, da, da, da, da, da, da ♪ 911 00:47:08,036 --> 00:47:09,580 You know, I came up with that. 912 00:47:10,372 --> 00:47:12,833 Jon went back in and, and recorded it. 913 00:47:12,833 --> 00:47:15,460 I recorded it at the Power Station 914 00:47:15,460 --> 00:47:18,046 with a bunch of cats, as we call them. 915 00:47:18,046 --> 00:47:20,799 The first demo I got of Jon's was a good song. 916 00:47:20,799 --> 00:47:25,220 I mean, Jon's great talent is these big, powerful, 917 00:47:25,220 --> 00:47:28,932 pop rock choruses that just demand to be sung 918 00:47:28,932 --> 00:47:31,268 by, you know, 20,000 people in an arena. 919 00:47:31,894 --> 00:47:34,813 And then took that and shopped that around to the record companies. 920 00:47:34,813 --> 00:47:37,816 It was Jon, it wasn't-- there wasn't a band, it just was him. 921 00:47:39,902 --> 00:47:41,862 Sent Runaway out to anyone and everyone. 922 00:47:41,862 --> 00:47:45,324 To managers, labels, production companies. 923 00:47:45,741 --> 00:47:49,244 I-I think it was 11 record companies then, and everybody said no. 924 00:47:51,413 --> 00:47:53,415 Nobody returns a phone call. 925 00:47:53,415 --> 00:47:56,210 Nobody answers a letter. Nothing. 926 00:47:56,877 --> 00:48:00,297 So it was just this kid knocking on doors with no luck. 927 00:48:00,297 --> 00:48:01,965 I finally said, "Listen, I've gotta see 928 00:48:01,965 --> 00:48:04,218 "if I'm way off the mark here 929 00:48:04,218 --> 00:48:06,762 and should consider another, you know, form of work." 930 00:48:06,762 --> 00:48:09,264 And at that time, my frustration, 931 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,392 a light bulb moment happened, and I said, 932 00:48:12,392 --> 00:48:15,562 "Who's the loneliest man in the music business?" 933 00:48:15,562 --> 00:48:16,980 Rock 104. 934 00:48:16,980 --> 00:48:18,232 The DJ. 935 00:48:18,232 --> 00:48:20,734 Because he's probably in a dark room 936 00:48:21,318 --> 00:48:25,322 talking into a microphone, preaching the gospel of music, 937 00:48:25,322 --> 00:48:27,824 telling you to listen to this band and this song. 938 00:48:27,824 --> 00:48:31,620 And there was a new radio station in New York City. 939 00:48:31,620 --> 00:48:32,871 WAPP. 940 00:48:32,871 --> 00:48:34,706 WAPP. 941 00:48:34,706 --> 00:48:39,002 WAPP is the Apple's, New York's newest FM. 942 00:48:39,002 --> 00:48:40,629 Rock on the summer. 943 00:48:40,879 --> 00:48:43,632 It was so new they didn't have a receptionist. 944 00:48:45,050 --> 00:48:46,510 And fortunately for me, 945 00:48:46,510 --> 00:48:48,720 a young guy by the name of John Lastman 946 00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:51,974 and a guy named Chip Hobart, who was the DJ on the air. 947 00:48:51,974 --> 00:48:54,476 This is Chip Hobart at 4 o'clock. 948 00:48:54,476 --> 00:48:55,811 He says, "Well, you're in luck, 949 00:48:55,811 --> 00:48:59,940 because we want to do a homegrown record of local talent." 950 00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,527 I played him Runaway, and he said, "That's a hit song." 951 00:49:03,527 --> 00:49:05,445 And I said, "I know!" 952 00:49:05,445 --> 00:49:08,907 And of course APP is gonna promote themselves. 953 00:49:08,907 --> 00:49:12,286 So they started playing hometown heroes from New York. 954 00:49:14,162 --> 00:49:15,914 But the miracle of miracles happened. 955 00:49:15,914 --> 00:49:17,749 Doubleday, the book publisher, 956 00:49:17,749 --> 00:49:21,712 they owned eight radio stations in some big markets. 957 00:49:22,379 --> 00:49:25,299 They started playing Runaway on all eight stations. 958 00:49:26,884 --> 00:49:30,095 And all of a sudden, from getting turned down by every record company, 959 00:49:30,095 --> 00:49:32,848 we were the most requested song 960 00:49:32,848 --> 00:49:35,976 'cause everybody's calling up, "Who's this Bon Jo-- What is this? What is this? 961 00:49:35,976 --> 00:49:37,811 We want to hear this, we want to hear this." 962 00:49:37,811 --> 00:49:39,646 So now all those same record guys 963 00:49:39,646 --> 00:49:41,773 that had that cassette on their desk 964 00:49:42,191 --> 00:49:43,400 went looking for it. 965 00:49:43,942 --> 00:49:45,235 And lo and behold... 966 00:49:46,111 --> 00:49:47,279 it was me. 967 00:49:47,779 --> 00:49:49,364 ♪ On the street where you live ♪ 968 00:49:49,364 --> 00:49:51,617 ♪ Girls talk about their social lives ♪ 969 00:49:51,617 --> 00:49:55,037 So, they'd come and see what was ultimately, 970 00:49:55,037 --> 00:49:56,538 you know, the band. 971 00:49:58,874 --> 00:50:01,543 I had the band together for what was meant to be three weeks 972 00:50:01,543 --> 00:50:03,253 of let me promote this 973 00:50:03,253 --> 00:50:05,923 so I can make $100, $200 a night, now 974 00:50:05,923 --> 00:50:07,132 as an original band. 975 00:50:07,132 --> 00:50:08,425 ♪ Living in another world ♪ 976 00:50:08,425 --> 00:50:10,719 ♪ Trying to get your message through ♪ 977 00:50:12,387 --> 00:50:15,599 It was meant to be three weeks, not 40 years. 978 00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:17,601 Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to greet some gentlemen 979 00:50:17,601 --> 00:50:18,769 who are from New Jersey. 980 00:50:18,769 --> 00:50:21,146 Their tours I'm sure will take them all over the world 981 00:50:21,146 --> 00:50:23,815 before this year is up, please greet Bon Jovi. 982 00:50:25,901 --> 00:50:29,571 ♪ Ooh, she's a little runaway ♪ 983 00:50:31,490 --> 00:50:33,575 ♪ Daddy's girl learned fast ♪ 984 00:50:33,575 --> 00:50:35,619 ♪ All those things she couldn't say ♪ 985 00:50:37,955 --> 00:50:42,251 ♪ Ooh, she's a little runaway ♪ 986 00:50:42,251 --> 00:50:45,754 I'd asked Dave who was still going to school... 987 00:50:45,754 --> 00:50:47,339 And I says, "Well, here's what I want to do. 988 00:50:47,339 --> 00:50:49,925 You know, I wanna get the band together and this is gonna be like the band." 989 00:50:49,925 --> 00:50:52,386 And he says, "Okay." He quit school. 990 00:50:52,803 --> 00:50:54,721 I said, "Listen, I love pre-med, 991 00:50:54,721 --> 00:50:57,057 but I'll give this, like, a year." 992 00:50:57,558 --> 00:50:59,852 It looks like it's way more fun than being a doctor. 993 00:51:00,686 --> 00:51:03,564 I asked Alec John Such who sang his ass off 994 00:51:03,564 --> 00:51:06,567 and was in a cover band that was making $3,000 a night. 995 00:51:06,567 --> 00:51:08,819 I had seen Alec play in Phantom's Opera, 996 00:51:08,819 --> 00:51:11,154 which was a huge club band in Jersey. 997 00:51:11,154 --> 00:51:13,407 Told Dave about him and he agreed. 998 00:51:13,407 --> 00:51:17,119 Alec was a great bass player, really cool-looking dude. 999 00:51:17,119 --> 00:51:18,745 He had, he had the shit on his chin, 1000 00:51:18,745 --> 00:51:21,790 smoked these little brown menthol cigarettes, 1001 00:51:21,790 --> 00:51:24,251 and you just looked at Al and you go, "That motherfucking guy's cool." 1002 00:51:25,002 --> 00:51:26,336 I asked Tico Torres, 1003 00:51:26,336 --> 00:51:28,213 who was in a band called Frankie and The Knockouts 1004 00:51:28,213 --> 00:51:29,882 who had a record deal. 1005 00:51:29,882 --> 00:51:31,925 He was married, he had a house, he was on the road. 1006 00:51:32,301 --> 00:51:33,594 I did own a house. 1007 00:51:33,594 --> 00:51:36,346 And, uh, eventually, i-it destroyed that marriage. 1008 00:51:36,346 --> 00:51:38,640 But I don't think I should have been married at that time anyway. 1009 00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,225 ♪ She's a little runaway ♪ 1010 00:51:40,225 --> 00:51:42,019 I used to go see him play. 1011 00:51:42,019 --> 00:51:45,397 I was in awe of Tico Torres as a drummer. 1012 00:51:45,397 --> 00:51:48,901 I initially met Jon, the first time I heard from him was Alec. 1013 00:51:48,901 --> 00:51:51,236 And I knew him since I was 15. 1014 00:51:51,236 --> 00:51:53,572 I lost my virginity at his house for God's sake. 1015 00:51:53,572 --> 00:51:56,241 I remember I'd seen Tico, like, two days before and he said... 1016 00:51:56,241 --> 00:51:58,535 "Yeah, we'll jam together." You know? 1017 00:51:58,535 --> 00:52:02,497 And so, he-- Jon said, Jon said, "You know, get him down." 1018 00:52:02,497 --> 00:52:04,416 I called him, I said, "Tico, remember you said 1019 00:52:04,416 --> 00:52:06,210 we're gonna jam together? We're gonna." 1020 00:52:06,210 --> 00:52:09,421 John came over and played me his tape of Runaway 1021 00:52:09,421 --> 00:52:11,173 and we had a little jam session. 1022 00:52:11,673 --> 00:52:13,050 I said, "This kid's a star." 1023 00:52:13,050 --> 00:52:14,968 I mean, he had an aura about him. 1024 00:52:14,968 --> 00:52:17,387 I saw him and I says, "Look at this guy go." 1025 00:52:17,387 --> 00:52:19,723 And I'm looking like this, I'm playing the drums, going, 1026 00:52:19,723 --> 00:52:21,934 "This kid's got something," you know, the chicks loved his butt. 1027 00:52:21,934 --> 00:52:24,102 I says, "Alright, I'm gonna hang with this." 1028 00:52:25,312 --> 00:52:28,273 He was the best drummer I ever saw or played with in my life. 1029 00:52:28,273 --> 00:52:29,441 And still is. 1030 00:52:29,441 --> 00:52:30,567 I was looking at him like, 1031 00:52:30,567 --> 00:52:32,569 "He's the baddest motherfucker in the land." 1032 00:52:32,569 --> 00:52:34,112 We're allowed to curse, aren't we? 1033 00:52:34,404 --> 00:52:35,906 Let me jump in the middle. 1034 00:52:35,906 --> 00:52:37,533 You guys gather around like a football huddle. 1035 00:52:37,533 --> 00:52:39,159 How did you meet Richie to begin with? 1036 00:52:39,159 --> 00:52:40,994 Richie was in the audience one night at a show 1037 00:52:40,994 --> 00:52:42,788 - while the other four of us were playing. - Yeah. 1038 00:52:42,788 --> 00:52:45,582 And he came up to me and says, "I want to be your lead guitar player." 1039 00:52:45,582 --> 00:52:47,876 - What, are you crazy? - Uh, no. 1040 00:52:47,876 --> 00:52:49,795 This is now how to ingratiate yourself to people 1041 00:52:49,795 --> 00:52:51,463 and say, "I'm gonna be the lead guitarist." 1042 00:52:51,463 --> 00:52:52,714 Dick, it worked. 1043 00:52:52,714 --> 00:52:54,383 - Right. 1044 00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:58,846 Alec, who was also in an original band with Richie, said, 1045 00:52:58,846 --> 00:53:01,723 "You gotta see this guy. There's something about this guy." 1046 00:53:01,723 --> 00:53:03,392 Alec had called me up and said, 1047 00:53:03,392 --> 00:53:04,935 "I'm playing with this new band, you know, 1048 00:53:04,935 --> 00:53:06,311 "Jon Bongiovi and the Wild Ones. 1049 00:53:06,311 --> 00:53:08,564 Come down and see the band." So I said, "Yeah, sure." 1050 00:53:08,564 --> 00:53:11,275 And after hearing him play 1051 00:53:11,275 --> 00:53:13,402 and talking a bit, you know, 1052 00:53:13,402 --> 00:53:15,320 we found we were really on the same track, you know? 1053 00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:17,573 And the rest, as they say, is history. 1054 00:53:17,573 --> 00:53:18,657 The rest is history. 1055 00:53:18,657 --> 00:53:20,534 He walked in and says, "I'm your new guitar player." 1056 00:53:20,534 --> 00:53:21,952 That's what I did. I was very cocky. 1057 00:53:26,999 --> 00:53:28,292 We immediately hit it off. 1058 00:53:28,292 --> 00:53:30,460 I knew that this guy was incredibly talented. 1059 00:53:30,878 --> 00:53:33,463 He could play, he could sing, he could write, 1060 00:53:33,463 --> 00:53:36,049 and I thought he would be an incredible complement. 1061 00:53:37,259 --> 00:53:38,927 There was a combination of, 1062 00:53:38,927 --> 00:53:42,014 it was all of us playing together that clicked. 1063 00:53:42,014 --> 00:53:45,100 But Jon and Richie, their vocal styles together 1064 00:53:45,100 --> 00:53:46,602 made its own style. 1065 00:53:47,144 --> 00:53:49,521 You know, you could say, there's-there's Simon and Garfunkel, 1066 00:53:49,521 --> 00:53:51,857 there's, uh, Lennon, McCartney, 1067 00:53:51,857 --> 00:53:53,483 certain voices just go together. 1068 00:53:53,483 --> 00:53:54,818 And that had a magic to it. 1069 00:53:55,152 --> 00:53:57,654 ♪ You need someone to make it last ♪ 1070 00:53:57,654 --> 00:54:01,867 The energy of the band, undeniable, 1071 00:54:02,284 --> 00:54:04,203 like a freight train coming at you. 1072 00:54:04,536 --> 00:54:09,333 But Jon and Richie singing together, magic. 1073 00:54:10,042 --> 00:54:12,669 The song Runaway that really started it all. 1074 00:54:12,669 --> 00:54:13,879 It triggered the whole thing. 1075 00:54:13,879 --> 00:54:17,633 But that was basically because of, of that hometown record. 1076 00:54:18,008 --> 00:54:20,719 We would've won that national contest. 1077 00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:22,679 But I pulled out because fortunately by then 1078 00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:25,766 I had so much interest from a couple of labels 1079 00:54:25,766 --> 00:54:27,100 that we didn't need it. 1080 00:54:27,518 --> 00:54:30,729 And we signed with PolyGram, thank God he had the vision. 1081 00:54:30,729 --> 00:54:32,272 And I just was like, I said, 1082 00:54:32,272 --> 00:54:34,566 "You charge the hill, I'm behind you charging with you." 1083 00:54:34,566 --> 00:54:38,153 I had laid down months into years of groundwork, 1084 00:54:38,153 --> 00:54:40,155 you know, trying to get that major label 1085 00:54:40,155 --> 00:54:41,448 and making the contact. 1086 00:54:41,448 --> 00:54:43,408 When it broke nationally, 1087 00:54:43,408 --> 00:54:45,536 it was by a guy named Jon Bongiovi. 1088 00:54:45,536 --> 00:54:47,329 There was no band, there was no manager, 1089 00:54:47,329 --> 00:54:49,081 there wasn't anything at the time. 1090 00:54:49,081 --> 00:54:50,791 Now, if somebody ran up to you in a bar and said, 1091 00:54:50,791 --> 00:54:51,959 "What's your name," you'd say? 1092 00:54:51,959 --> 00:54:53,085 Jon Bon Jovi. 1093 00:54:53,085 --> 00:54:54,711 It was someone at the record company 1094 00:54:55,170 --> 00:55:00,008 who had suggested in the way that Van Halen, 1095 00:55:00,342 --> 00:55:03,262 Bon Jovi, two words, could work. 1096 00:55:03,262 --> 00:55:04,638 Van Halen had Jump, 1097 00:55:04,638 --> 00:55:07,182 the first time a guitar band had a keyboard song. 1098 00:55:07,182 --> 00:55:11,311 Number one song and they broke up, which is not what you do. 1099 00:55:11,311 --> 00:55:13,772 That left a big hole in the world 1100 00:55:13,772 --> 00:55:16,024 for, like, here we had a keyboard song, 1101 00:55:16,024 --> 00:55:17,734 we had a great-looking frontman 1102 00:55:17,734 --> 00:55:20,112 who could sing his ass off and entertain. 1103 00:55:20,112 --> 00:55:22,614 We had the guitar-slinging guy who could do it. 1104 00:55:24,074 --> 00:55:26,076 There was like a little bit of a hole there. 1105 00:55:26,076 --> 00:55:27,494 And then we just came right in. 1106 00:55:27,494 --> 00:55:31,331 - Show 'em! - Look, it's my favorite band! 1107 00:55:34,251 --> 00:55:36,837 - Oh, nice work. - Cute kid, huh? 1108 00:55:36,837 --> 00:55:38,046 Look at that. 1109 00:55:39,923 --> 00:55:41,717 Where's the video? 1110 00:55:42,176 --> 00:55:43,886 And so we made that first record... 1111 00:55:46,054 --> 00:55:47,306 and the adventure began. 1112 00:56:01,987 --> 00:56:03,822 Richie Sambora IV, take one. 1113 00:56:09,745 --> 00:56:10,996 I'm excited for this. 1114 00:56:10,996 --> 00:56:13,123 I'm-- Hey, I'm excited. 1115 00:56:13,624 --> 00:56:15,501 Are we telling the truth or are we gonna lie? 1116 00:56:15,501 --> 00:56:17,878 What are we gonna do? Let's-let's-let's figure it out. 1117 00:56:17,878 --> 00:56:20,631 ♪ She's a little runaway ♪ 1118 00:56:51,912 --> 00:56:55,916 ♪ No one heard a single word you said ♪ 1119 00:56:57,668 --> 00:57:00,504 ♪ They should have seen it in your eyes ♪ 1120 00:57:00,921 --> 00:57:03,507 ♪ What was going around your head ♪ 1121 00:57:05,300 --> 00:57:09,388 ♪ Ooh, she's a little runaway ♪ 1122 00:57:10,722 --> 00:57:12,850 ♪ Daddy's girl learned fast ♪ 1123 00:57:12,850 --> 00:57:15,060 ♪ All those things she couldn't say ♪ 1124 00:57:17,771 --> 00:57:22,025 ♪ Ooh, she's a little runaway ♪ 1125 00:57:23,151 --> 00:57:25,153 ♪ Daddy's girl learned fast ♪ 1126 00:57:25,445 --> 00:57:27,489 ♪ Now she works the night away ♪ 96354

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