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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:20,779 --> 00:00:26,183 In my generation, he was the granddaddy of all directors... 2 00:00:26,351 --> 00:00:27,613 ...at that particular time. 3 00:00:27,786 --> 00:00:31,950 He certainly influenced almost everyone who was directing in the '50s... 4 00:00:32,123 --> 00:00:34,990 ...and later in the '60s, and right on through today. 5 00:00:35,160 --> 00:00:38,891 Ford, you know, will live forever, because his films will live forever. 6 00:00:39,064 --> 00:00:44,024 And, um, his work is there to inspire and influence... 7 00:00:44,202 --> 00:00:46,102 ...this whole new generation of filmmaker. 8 00:00:46,271 --> 00:00:49,968 He is the essence of classical American cinema... 9 00:00:50,141 --> 00:00:53,076 ...and any serious person making films today... 10 00:00:53,511 --> 00:00:56,503 ...whether they know it or not, is affected by Ford. 11 00:00:56,681 --> 00:00:59,047 He's like Dickens or something that you can't... 12 00:00:59,217 --> 00:01:04,712 There's a whole frame of reference and, um, horizon line... 13 00:01:04,889 --> 00:01:06,151 ...that is Fordian. 14 00:01:40,658 --> 00:01:42,182 Ethan? 15 00:01:59,611 --> 00:02:01,442 Quiet, Sam. 16 00:02:12,056 --> 00:02:14,388 That's your Uncle Ethan. 17 00:02:27,105 --> 00:02:29,437 Welcome home, Ethan. 18 00:02:32,444 --> 00:02:34,378 In the '60s, Orson Welles was interviewed. 19 00:02:34,546 --> 00:02:38,243 One of the questions he was asked was who his favorite American directors were. 20 00:02:38,416 --> 00:02:43,319 He said, "Well, I prefer the old masters, by which I mean John Ford... 21 00:02:43,488 --> 00:02:46,855 ...John Ford and John Ford. 22 00:02:47,125 --> 00:02:49,184 He's a poet and a comedian. 23 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,694 With Ford at his best, you get a sense of what the earth is made of... 24 00:02:53,865 --> 00:02:57,096 ...even if the script is by Mother Machree". 25 00:02:57,368 --> 00:03:01,202 Well, I showed this, toward the end of the '60s, to John Ford... 26 00:03:01,372 --> 00:03:06,571 ...and, he read it and said, "Where is Orson"? 27 00:03:06,744 --> 00:03:10,077 I said, "He's over at the Beverly Hills Hotel". He says, "Hmm". 28 00:03:10,248 --> 00:03:12,375 Couple of days later, I get a call from Welles. 29 00:03:12,550 --> 00:03:15,815 He says, "Did you show that quote of mine to Ford"? 30 00:03:15,987 --> 00:03:17,579 And I said, "Yeah. Why"? 31 00:03:17,755 --> 00:03:20,223 He said, "Well, I just got a telegram: 32 00:03:20,391 --> 00:03:23,383 Dear Orson, thanks for the compliment. 33 00:03:23,561 --> 00:03:25,324 Love, Mother Machree". 34 00:03:40,278 --> 00:03:44,408 These words have appeared on over 135 movies... 35 00:03:44,582 --> 00:03:49,019 ...among them some of the most popular and memorable ever made. 36 00:03:49,187 --> 00:03:52,156 It's also a phrase that's been properly honored. 37 00:03:52,323 --> 00:03:55,815 John Ford is the only director ever to win six Oscars... 38 00:03:55,994 --> 00:03:58,292 ...and four New York Film Critics' Awards... 39 00:03:58,463 --> 00:04:01,899 ...not to mention other prizes from around the world... 40 00:04:02,066 --> 00:04:04,500 ...Venice, Berlin, London, Belgrade. 41 00:04:04,669 --> 00:04:08,070 Wherever they show American films, Ford's name is synonymous... 42 00:04:08,239 --> 00:04:12,972 ...not only with quality, but with a special kind of quality as well. 43 00:04:13,144 --> 00:04:15,772 Looking over that rich, varied career... 44 00:04:15,947 --> 00:04:19,110 ...what is it that distinguishes the movies of John Ford? 45 00:04:19,284 --> 00:04:24,654 Are they 135 individual films, or is it a body of work... 46 00:04:24,822 --> 00:04:27,086 ...that can stand with the singular achievement... 47 00:04:27,258 --> 00:04:30,159 ...of a great novelist, painter, composer? 48 00:04:30,328 --> 00:04:32,523 Directed by John Ford. 49 00:04:32,697 --> 00:04:36,633 What do those words really mean, anyway? 50 00:04:36,968 --> 00:04:42,600 The first time I became aware of a name on the credits of a film that I liked... 51 00:04:42,774 --> 00:04:44,503 ...was the name John Ford. 52 00:04:44,676 --> 00:04:46,701 And then just picked up. 53 00:04:46,878 --> 00:04:49,506 When I saw it's directed by Ford, I'd watch that film. 54 00:04:49,781 --> 00:04:52,011 I actually saw Stagecoach on a re-release... 55 00:04:52,183 --> 00:04:54,845 ...when I was about 11, 12 years old. 56 00:04:55,019 --> 00:05:00,150 I remember John, uh, Wayne looking quite a bit younger... 57 00:05:00,325 --> 00:05:01,849 ...than I was used to seeing him. 58 00:05:02,026 --> 00:05:05,689 And, uh, the impact of the movie was, even then, enormous. 59 00:05:05,863 --> 00:05:07,797 Hold it. 60 00:05:08,333 --> 00:05:10,893 Whoa, steady. 61 00:05:11,069 --> 00:05:13,594 Never apologize, mister. It's a sign of weakness. 62 00:05:17,575 --> 00:05:21,341 So when Mr. Ford needed a goose herder for his set... 63 00:05:21,512 --> 00:05:23,571 ...it just fit my pistol. 64 00:05:23,748 --> 00:05:25,511 They had a hill built up... 65 00:05:25,683 --> 00:05:30,882 ...a fake hill for this, uh, set for Mother Machree. 66 00:05:31,055 --> 00:05:35,082 And the geese were getting down under, the 2-by-4s under there. 67 00:05:35,259 --> 00:05:38,717 So they needed a fellow to herd them out, keep them out. 68 00:05:38,896 --> 00:05:41,558 So that was my first job with Mr. Ford. 69 00:05:41,733 --> 00:05:44,998 Well, Mr. Ford says, "So you're a football player". 70 00:05:45,169 --> 00:05:47,637 And I said, "Well, playing at USC". 71 00:05:47,805 --> 00:05:49,796 He said, uh, "Let's see how you get down". 72 00:05:49,974 --> 00:05:55,974 So I got down, braced on my, forearms and my, uh, feet... 73 00:05:56,481 --> 00:05:58,449 ...he kicked my arms out from under me... 74 00:05:58,616 --> 00:06:02,177 ...and stuck my nose in that mud that they'd made for Mother Machree. 75 00:06:02,353 --> 00:06:04,218 I'll tell you, it wasn't the sod of old Ireland. 76 00:06:05,556 --> 00:06:06,818 And it really hurt. 77 00:06:06,991 --> 00:06:10,449 So not being interested in a motion-picture career at that time... 78 00:06:10,628 --> 00:06:12,653 ...I said, "Let's try it again". 79 00:06:12,830 --> 00:06:16,357 Well, it's hard for one fellow in a line to take out anybody... 80 00:06:16,534 --> 00:06:19,503 ...when they can move wide on you. 81 00:06:19,671 --> 00:06:22,538 So as I thought he would, he started to go around this side... 82 00:06:22,707 --> 00:06:25,141 ...I whirled and kicked him and hit him in the chest. 83 00:06:25,309 --> 00:06:28,836 And sat him down on the part that goes over the fence last. 84 00:06:29,013 --> 00:06:33,882 And, he looked up with a little surprise. And there was a deadly silence. 85 00:06:34,052 --> 00:06:39,149 And right then was a deciding point in my career in motion pictures. 86 00:06:39,323 --> 00:06:42,224 He was not influenced by a politically-correct generation... 87 00:06:42,393 --> 00:06:43,621 ...that we live in today. 88 00:06:43,795 --> 00:06:46,320 He was... He could go flat out. 89 00:06:46,497 --> 00:06:52,497 And I think, that, was sort of an imprint of Ford's... 90 00:06:52,970 --> 00:06:55,097 ...where Ford was afraid of nothing. 91 00:06:55,473 --> 00:07:00,934 Ford is so much more than any one, two or three of his films... 92 00:07:01,112 --> 00:07:03,979 ...and there are moments in many of his films... 93 00:07:04,148 --> 00:07:07,515 ...that maybe are uneven that are precious... 94 00:07:08,853 --> 00:07:11,117 ...but, um, Young Mr. Lincoln always meant a lot to me. 95 00:07:13,091 --> 00:07:15,958 I presume you all know who I am. 96 00:07:16,527 --> 00:07:18,825 I'm plain Abraham Lincoln. 97 00:07:18,996 --> 00:07:22,124 Sure is a hard town for a fellow... 98 00:07:22,300 --> 00:07:25,633 ...to have a quiet game of poker in. 99 00:07:33,244 --> 00:07:39,012 Wherever there's a fight so hungry people can eat, I'll be there. 100 00:07:39,484 --> 00:07:44,251 Wherever there's a cop beating up a guy, I'll be there. 101 00:07:44,422 --> 00:07:46,617 Weeks later, Ford was assigned to the picture. 102 00:07:46,791 --> 00:07:49,988 And he sent for me. I had to go to his office. 103 00:07:50,995 --> 00:07:53,463 And, uh, I remember meeting Meeda Stern for the first time. 104 00:07:53,631 --> 00:07:55,462 She was his secretary-script girl then. 105 00:07:55,633 --> 00:07:59,262 And she ushered me into the office in front of himself. 106 00:07:59,437 --> 00:08:01,837 I remember it was like being an apprentice seaman... 107 00:08:02,006 --> 00:08:04,634 ...with the white hat in my hand in front of the admiral. 108 00:08:04,809 --> 00:08:07,505 He was sitting there with his hat and sucking on a pipe... 109 00:08:07,678 --> 00:08:10,272 ...and a handkerchief at the same time. 110 00:08:10,748 --> 00:08:15,185 And I'm standing there like at attention, and this character's sitting there. 111 00:08:15,353 --> 00:08:17,412 Sort of looks under his brows and said: 112 00:08:17,588 --> 00:08:20,887 "What the hell is all this about you not wanting to play Lincoln"? 113 00:08:21,292 --> 00:08:23,351 Using all the profanities in the world... 114 00:08:23,528 --> 00:08:25,325 ...which sort of shocked me more. 115 00:08:25,496 --> 00:08:28,932 You know, here's God the admiral talking like this. 116 00:08:29,267 --> 00:08:34,864 Well, he went on to shame me about this whole thing. What was it? 117 00:08:35,039 --> 00:08:38,372 Did I think I was playing the great emancipator or something like that? 118 00:08:38,543 --> 00:08:42,172 Said, "This is a young jack-legged lawyer from Springfield, for God's sake". 119 00:09:04,035 --> 00:09:06,503 Hello, Abe. What are you doing in Springfield? 120 00:09:06,671 --> 00:09:09,401 Figuring on setting myself up as a lawyer. 121 00:09:09,574 --> 00:09:11,405 What do you know about law, Abe? 122 00:09:11,576 --> 00:09:13,373 Not enough to hurt me. 123 00:09:13,544 --> 00:09:15,375 He can make you laugh and make you cry. 124 00:09:15,546 --> 00:09:18,379 And he can get you there very quickly from one to the other. 125 00:09:18,549 --> 00:09:24,078 It's again his mastery of the kind of "unchartered waters" human spirit. 126 00:09:24,255 --> 00:09:26,018 He understood people very well. 127 00:09:26,190 --> 00:09:29,216 The thing I'd look most forward to in John Ford pictures... 128 00:09:29,393 --> 00:09:32,726 ...who was coming back from the last John Ford film? 129 00:09:32,897 --> 00:09:37,095 Who was coming back of his repertory company to be part of the new film? 130 00:09:37,268 --> 00:09:38,599 It was a family, you know. 131 00:09:38,769 --> 00:09:41,738 And in the family, he... And he was a bit of abusive father. 132 00:09:41,906 --> 00:09:46,468 I mean, I know he was tough on his kids, especially on Harry Carey Jr... 133 00:09:46,644 --> 00:09:49,442 ...and a couple of the others, and, uh... 134 00:09:49,614 --> 00:09:50,911 But they loved him. 135 00:09:51,082 --> 00:09:52,572 William Kearney, ma'am. 136 00:09:52,750 --> 00:09:55,310 I'm proud to make your acquaintance, ma'am. 137 00:09:55,486 --> 00:09:57,716 I'm gonna let you whip them up. 138 00:10:00,892 --> 00:10:03,759 Did they...? What was she...? 139 00:10:03,928 --> 00:10:06,453 He kept saying before the movie started: 140 00:10:06,631 --> 00:10:10,624 "You're gonna hate me, but you're gonna give a good performance". 141 00:10:11,569 --> 00:10:15,266 Well, I hated him after the first day. 142 00:10:15,439 --> 00:10:17,066 Wasn't after the movie's over. 143 00:10:17,341 --> 00:10:18,433 He was angry. 144 00:10:18,609 --> 00:10:19,735 A lot. Heh, heh. 145 00:10:19,911 --> 00:10:22,379 He was angry a lot on the set. Some of it was an act. 146 00:10:22,546 --> 00:10:28,212 But some of it, I think, was just his difficult... 147 00:10:28,653 --> 00:10:32,749 The inner tension of trying to express different things in different ways. 148 00:10:32,924 --> 00:10:34,755 And knowing that both are kind of true. 149 00:10:34,926 --> 00:10:38,487 The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, which I saw at a drive-in movie theater... 150 00:10:38,663 --> 00:10:43,862 ...growing up, uh, in Phoenix, Arizona, uh, made a tremendous impact on me. 151 00:10:44,035 --> 00:10:50,035 Because I always felt like I was, you know, the, reluctant fighter. 152 00:10:50,808 --> 00:10:52,867 And, uh, in the Jimmy Stewart character... 153 00:10:53,044 --> 00:10:57,344 ...and I really related to his dilemma, his moral dilemma. 154 00:10:57,515 --> 00:11:03,181 Isn't it enough to kill a man without trying to build a life on it? 155 00:11:03,354 --> 00:11:05,982 Now, wait a minute. Now, wait a minute. Just a minute, Jim. 156 00:11:06,157 --> 00:11:08,022 How come you checked with an ace showing? 157 00:11:08,192 --> 00:11:10,023 Was that an ace? 158 00:11:11,195 --> 00:11:12,423 I'm blind as a bat. 159 00:11:12,596 --> 00:11:15,326 Well, I wanted very, very much to please him... 160 00:11:15,499 --> 00:11:18,593 ...first time I worked for him, and I still do. 161 00:11:18,769 --> 00:11:23,331 If I'd make another picture for him tomorrow, I'd wanna please him. 162 00:11:23,507 --> 00:11:25,873 And I think he does that to people. 163 00:11:26,043 --> 00:11:31,379 He, uh, dares you to do it right... 164 00:11:31,549 --> 00:11:33,414 ...to do it good. 165 00:11:33,818 --> 00:11:37,879 And, uh, it's sort of a competitive thing. 166 00:11:38,055 --> 00:11:43,186 And there's that feeling on the set when you're working for him. 167 00:11:43,361 --> 00:11:45,852 Uh, it isn't a relaxed set. 168 00:11:46,697 --> 00:11:49,530 You know, so many people say, "Oh, it's so nice. 169 00:11:49,700 --> 00:11:52,100 It's such a relaxed set, and everybody sort"... 170 00:11:52,269 --> 00:11:53,293 It's, uh... 171 00:11:53,471 --> 00:11:55,735 With Ford, it's not a relaxed set at all. 172 00:11:55,906 --> 00:11:58,431 It's... There's tension every place. 173 00:11:58,609 --> 00:11:59,940 There's, uh... 174 00:12:00,544 --> 00:12:02,876 Everybody's on edge. 175 00:12:03,047 --> 00:12:07,507 After we'd been on, uh, Stagecoach for three weeks... 176 00:12:07,685 --> 00:12:12,987 ...and they had quite a bit of film in the box, he, uh, said: 177 00:12:13,157 --> 00:12:16,354 "Would you like to see some of the film"? And I said, "I'd love to". 178 00:12:16,527 --> 00:12:20,190 He says, "All right. Lovey's, uh, cutting up there now. 179 00:12:20,364 --> 00:12:22,491 You won't have to work for a couple of hours. 180 00:12:22,666 --> 00:12:24,861 Go on up, tell him to run you what they have". 181 00:12:25,036 --> 00:12:26,230 So I went up and saw this. 182 00:12:26,404 --> 00:12:30,238 And it was beautiful photography. You know, it's wonderful stuff. 183 00:12:30,408 --> 00:12:34,572 And I came back, and he said, um, "Well, how'd you like it"? 184 00:12:34,745 --> 00:12:38,545 Then I said, "Oh, it's, you know, wonderful. Jeez, the greatest photography". 185 00:12:38,716 --> 00:12:40,809 "Well," he says, "it was directed all right"? 186 00:12:40,985 --> 00:12:42,509 And I said, "Oh, it's wonderful". 187 00:12:42,686 --> 00:12:44,881 He says, "How was Mitchell"? And I said, "Fine". 188 00:12:45,056 --> 00:12:49,425 And he said, uh, "How are you"? And I said, "Well, I'm playing you. 189 00:12:49,593 --> 00:12:52,289 You know what that part is". 190 00:12:52,463 --> 00:12:55,330 So, he kept asking me questions. 191 00:12:55,499 --> 00:12:57,831 He says, "How'd you like this? How'd you like that? 192 00:12:58,002 --> 00:13:01,369 Isn't there anything that you, uh, didn't like"? 193 00:13:01,539 --> 00:13:02,767 And now my propman thing. 194 00:13:02,940 --> 00:13:06,000 I said, "Listen, I told the propman at the first of this picture... 195 00:13:06,177 --> 00:13:08,168 ...to get some of those exercising things... 196 00:13:08,345 --> 00:13:11,075 ...to put at the end of those lines, so Andy'd have a"... 197 00:13:11,248 --> 00:13:15,878 He says, "Okay, hold it. Come on down. Come on down off the lights. 198 00:13:16,053 --> 00:13:17,077 Everybody down". 199 00:13:17,254 --> 00:13:20,451 He got everybody in the center of the stage, and he said: 200 00:13:20,624 --> 00:13:22,854 "I want you fellows to know something. 201 00:13:23,027 --> 00:13:27,726 Our star, uh, just loves the picture as it's going. 202 00:13:27,898 --> 00:13:31,664 He thinks he's fine in it, but he can't stand Devine's performance". 203 00:13:31,836 --> 00:13:35,636 Well, you know, luckily, uh, I was a good friend of Andy's... 204 00:13:35,806 --> 00:13:38,001 ...and he understood it. 205 00:13:38,175 --> 00:13:40,040 I wanna tell you, this fellow puts you... 206 00:13:40,211 --> 00:13:43,078 You know, he keeps pretty good control of you. 207 00:13:43,247 --> 00:13:44,578 On 3 Godfathers... 208 00:13:44,748 --> 00:13:49,310 ...there's this scene where Wayne and Armend๏ฟฝriz and myself... 209 00:13:49,487 --> 00:13:53,287 ...were in our bedrolls and we're covered up, you know... 210 00:13:53,457 --> 00:13:55,550 ...uh, because there had been a sandstorm so... 211 00:13:55,726 --> 00:13:57,660 And then we sit up from the bedrolls... 212 00:13:57,828 --> 00:14:00,524 ...and Duke wakes up, and then Pete wakes up. 213 00:14:00,898 --> 00:14:05,232 And then I look around, I look like that and say... 214 00:14:05,402 --> 00:14:07,461 Where'd you pick up the horses? 215 00:14:09,340 --> 00:14:12,207 So we do it and he said, "Cut. 216 00:14:12,376 --> 00:14:16,107 Don't look all over Death Valley... 217 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:18,908 ...for the horses, just look where they were. 218 00:14:19,083 --> 00:14:20,778 Where they were". 219 00:14:21,318 --> 00:14:25,948 So it's no use trying to say, "Well, I thought"... because that's dead. 220 00:14:26,123 --> 00:14:29,889 Anyway, ahem, I did it the next time. I did it again. 221 00:14:30,060 --> 00:14:32,722 And he threw this rock at my head. 222 00:14:33,497 --> 00:14:37,433 And, uh, if it had hit me, it would have killed me. 223 00:14:37,601 --> 00:14:41,935 So it hit Armend๏ฟฝriz in a terrible spot on his body. 224 00:14:42,173 --> 00:14:43,868 And, uh, very painful. 225 00:14:44,041 --> 00:14:45,372 And, uh... 226 00:14:45,743 --> 00:14:47,335 Because I ducked and it hit Pedro. 227 00:14:50,014 --> 00:14:52,005 And that made Ford laugh. 228 00:14:52,183 --> 00:14:54,276 So it got him back out of that mood... 229 00:14:54,451 --> 00:14:57,716 ...but, uh, it was one of those bad days. 230 00:14:57,988 --> 00:15:01,116 You know in a Ford picture, and this is a very well-known fact... 231 00:15:01,292 --> 00:15:05,922 ...every day someone is at the bottom of the list, in the barrel, as they say. 232 00:15:06,096 --> 00:15:08,656 But there's a long story with that. We won't go into it. 233 00:15:08,832 --> 00:15:10,094 But the bottom of the list. 234 00:15:10,267 --> 00:15:14,260 And strangely enough, Duke Wayne, who, over the years, you know... 235 00:15:14,438 --> 00:15:17,805 ...has made lots of pictures with Ford. 236 00:15:17,975 --> 00:15:21,274 Duke Wayne has been at the bottom of the list, in the barrel... 237 00:15:21,445 --> 00:15:24,209 ...more than anybody else, which is sort of remarkable... 238 00:15:24,381 --> 00:15:26,542 ...because they love each other. 239 00:15:26,717 --> 00:15:28,548 They're like father and son. 240 00:15:28,719 --> 00:15:31,381 And, uh, in Liberty Valance... 241 00:15:31,555 --> 00:15:35,753 ...the picture I did with Duke, Duke came up. 242 00:15:35,926 --> 00:15:38,622 But the picture was about, oh, more than halfway finished. 243 00:15:38,796 --> 00:15:40,525 Duke came to me one day and he said: 244 00:15:40,698 --> 00:15:44,725 "How's it come that you've gone through this whole thing... 245 00:15:44,902 --> 00:15:46,893 ...and never been at the bottom of the list? 246 00:15:47,071 --> 00:15:49,232 What's there? You been red-appling the old man? 247 00:15:49,406 --> 00:15:51,704 What's the idea"? 248 00:15:51,875 --> 00:15:53,968 And I said, "I don't know". 249 00:15:54,144 --> 00:15:55,236 And I didn't know. 250 00:15:55,412 --> 00:15:59,212 But I must say I got a little smug about it. 251 00:15:59,383 --> 00:16:01,715 And, uh, went on. 252 00:16:01,885 --> 00:16:07,221 And it went around the company, they say, "Jeez, this Stewart is never... 253 00:16:07,391 --> 00:16:09,416 He's always right up there". 254 00:16:09,793 --> 00:16:15,425 Well, the day before the picture finished, we had a scene, it was a funeral scene. 255 00:16:15,599 --> 00:16:17,760 Duke's funeral. 256 00:16:17,935 --> 00:16:19,994 And Woody Strode... 257 00:16:20,170 --> 00:16:26,170 ...who played the part of the wonderful Negro friend of, Duke's... 258 00:16:26,477 --> 00:16:28,570 ...who was at the funeral. 259 00:16:28,746 --> 00:16:34,746 And Woody was dressed in blue overalls and blue work shirt and boots. 260 00:16:35,052 --> 00:16:38,510 And for some reason... He does this quite often... 261 00:16:38,689 --> 00:16:43,388 ...but I think this is a part of the tension, a part of Ford. 262 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,528 For some reason, he came up to me, and he... 263 00:16:45,696 --> 00:16:48,392 And before we did the scene he said: 264 00:16:49,633 --> 00:16:52,363 "What do you think of Woody's costume"? 265 00:16:53,437 --> 00:16:56,201 Now, why I said this, I'll never know. 266 00:16:56,373 --> 00:17:01,470 What possessed me to say what I did, I'll never know. 267 00:17:01,645 --> 00:17:03,909 And it just came out, and I said: 268 00:17:04,081 --> 00:17:08,245 "Well, it looks a little Uncle Remus-y, doesn't it"? 269 00:17:08,419 --> 00:17:12,981 And he froze and walked away. 270 00:17:13,157 --> 00:17:15,990 Then he said, uh, "Blow a whistle". 271 00:17:17,661 --> 00:17:18,958 And they blew a whistle. 272 00:17:19,129 --> 00:17:24,465 He said, uh, "Everybody, would you please gather around"? 273 00:17:25,936 --> 00:17:29,235 And he said to me, "Would you come over here"? 274 00:17:29,406 --> 00:17:31,874 And everybody, the whole company, they were around. 275 00:17:32,042 --> 00:17:36,570 He said, "Ladies and gentlemen, we have an actor". 276 00:17:36,947 --> 00:17:37,971 "Actor"? 277 00:17:38,148 --> 00:17:40,412 "We have an actor here... 278 00:17:41,352 --> 00:17:47,352 ...who objects to the costume on Woody Strode. 279 00:17:48,559 --> 00:17:52,017 He, uh, says that it's too Uncle Remus-y. 280 00:17:52,196 --> 00:17:56,223 Now, I don't know if this is a sort of a prejudice on Mr. Stewart's part. 281 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,391 I don't know whether he's anti-Negro. 282 00:17:58,569 --> 00:18:00,264 I don't know what it is... 283 00:18:00,437 --> 00:18:03,964 ...but I just wanted to point this out to the whole cast". 284 00:18:04,141 --> 00:18:05,540 I wanted to shoot myself. 285 00:18:06,877 --> 00:18:11,211 I wanted to crawl into a mouse hole. I wanted to... 286 00:18:11,382 --> 00:18:13,475 And I looked at Duke Wayne... 287 00:18:13,650 --> 00:18:18,110 ...and he was beaming, uh, like a cat... 288 00:18:18,288 --> 00:18:22,190 ...that had just eaten, uh, the mouse. 289 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:27,160 And Ford said, "Well, that's all, that's all", and everybody dismissed. 290 00:18:27,331 --> 00:18:31,427 And Duke came over and said, "Well, welcome to the club. 291 00:18:31,702 --> 00:18:34,170 I'm glad you made it. I really am". 292 00:18:35,139 --> 00:18:36,629 Monument Valley. 293 00:18:36,807 --> 00:18:40,072 John Ford has shot nine movies here. 294 00:18:40,244 --> 00:18:42,337 It's become so identified with him... 295 00:18:42,513 --> 00:18:47,576 ...other directors are convinced that using it as a location would be plagiarism. 296 00:18:47,751 --> 00:18:50,845 Surely, this would be the place most conducive... 297 00:18:51,021 --> 00:18:54,582 ...to getting Mr. Ford's own thoughts on his craft and art. 298 00:18:54,758 --> 00:18:56,726 Eleven, take one. 299 00:18:57,728 --> 00:19:00,356 Take one? There won't be more than one take, will there? 300 00:19:00,531 --> 00:19:01,759 Shoot. 301 00:19:01,932 --> 00:19:05,959 Mr. Ford, you made 3 Bad Men, which is a large-scale Western. 302 00:19:06,136 --> 00:19:08,400 You had quite an elaborate land rush in it. 303 00:19:08,572 --> 00:19:11,632 How did you shoot that? 304 00:19:11,809 --> 00:19:12,798 With a camera. 305 00:19:15,779 --> 00:19:19,476 Isn't The Sun Shines Bright kind of a little picture that you made for yourself? 306 00:19:19,650 --> 00:19:21,618 - Would that fall into the same...? - Yeah. Uh-huh. 307 00:19:27,224 --> 00:19:31,183 Mr. Ford, I've noticed that your view of the West... 308 00:19:31,361 --> 00:19:37,163 ...has become increasingly sad and melancholy over the years. 309 00:19:37,334 --> 00:19:38,733 Uh, I'm comparing, for instance... 310 00:19:38,902 --> 00:19:41,700 ...Wagon Master to The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance. 311 00:19:41,872 --> 00:19:44,807 - Have you been aware of that change? - No. 312 00:19:44,975 --> 00:19:46,442 No. 313 00:19:48,078 --> 00:19:51,445 Now that I point it out, is there anything you'd like you say about it? 314 00:19:51,915 --> 00:19:54,281 I don't know what you're talking about. 315 00:19:56,987 --> 00:20:01,856 Can I ask you what particular element about the Western appealed to you... 316 00:20:02,025 --> 00:20:03,049 ...from the beginning? 317 00:20:03,227 --> 00:20:04,854 I wouldn't know. 318 00:20:06,864 --> 00:20:11,392 Would you agree that the point, uh, of Fort Apache... 319 00:20:11,568 --> 00:20:17,507 ...was that the tradition of the Army was more important that one individual? 320 00:20:18,242 --> 00:20:19,732 Cut. 321 00:20:20,143 --> 00:20:21,337 I met Ford, you know. 322 00:20:21,512 --> 00:20:23,480 When I was about, I think 15 years old... 323 00:20:23,647 --> 00:20:26,115 ...I met this guy, and this guy asked me questions... 324 00:20:26,283 --> 00:20:28,808 ...about what I wanted to be when I get out of college. 325 00:20:28,986 --> 00:20:30,385 "I wanna be a movie director". 326 00:20:30,554 --> 00:20:32,613 He said, "Well, I'm the wrong guy to talk to. 327 00:20:32,789 --> 00:20:35,053 I do television, but you ought to go next door... 328 00:20:35,225 --> 00:20:38,285 ...and talk to the guy in that office across the hallway from me". 329 00:20:38,462 --> 00:20:41,522 I said, "Oh, who's that"? And he said, "That's John Ford's office". 330 00:20:41,698 --> 00:20:44,826 He introduced me to the secretary. Ford was not back from lunch... 331 00:20:45,002 --> 00:20:47,493 ...but she invited me to sit in front of her desk... 332 00:20:47,671 --> 00:20:50,367 ...and talk to her for 45 minutes, which I did. 333 00:20:50,541 --> 00:20:56,309 All of a sudden, a man comes in the office dressed like a, uh, big-game hunter. 334 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,311 Like safari clothes. 335 00:20:58,482 --> 00:21:00,609 A floppy hat. 336 00:21:00,784 --> 00:21:04,242 He had a patch over his eye. He was chewing on a handkerchief. 337 00:21:04,421 --> 00:21:08,380 He had a cigar on his other hand and he had lipstick kisses all over his face. 338 00:21:08,559 --> 00:21:10,925 But the kind that are put there for fun, you know? 339 00:21:11,094 --> 00:21:13,187 Not smears, but, you know... 340 00:21:13,363 --> 00:21:16,161 ...complete shapes of lips on his forehead, on his cheeks... 341 00:21:16,333 --> 00:21:17,823 ...one on his nose. 342 00:21:18,001 --> 00:21:20,697 He goes into his office without saying hi to his secretary. 343 00:21:20,871 --> 00:21:24,307 She grabs a box of Kleenex, and she runs after him, closes the door. 344 00:21:24,474 --> 00:21:26,442 Comes out four minutes later, and she says: 345 00:21:26,610 --> 00:21:30,171 "Look, Mr. Ford will see you, but he only will give you one minute". 346 00:21:30,948 --> 00:21:32,347 So I walked into the office... 347 00:21:32,516 --> 00:21:35,485 ...and Ford's sitting behind his desk with these great boots. 348 00:21:35,652 --> 00:21:39,986 Don't know if they were cowboy boots, but they were boots on his desk. 349 00:21:40,157 --> 00:21:43,752 And he said, "So you wanna be a picture maker". 350 00:21:44,161 --> 00:21:47,289 And I said, "Yes, sir. You know, I wanna be a movie director". 351 00:21:47,464 --> 00:21:49,056 "What do you know about movies"? 352 00:21:49,232 --> 00:21:52,668 I said, "I've been making these 8 mm dramas in Arizona where I live... 353 00:21:52,836 --> 00:21:54,997 ...where I go to high school". 354 00:21:55,172 --> 00:21:58,539 And he said, "What do you know about art"? 355 00:21:58,709 --> 00:21:59,767 And I said... 356 00:21:59,943 --> 00:22:03,140 I think I was just stuttering, didn't know what he was talking about. 357 00:22:03,313 --> 00:22:06,009 He said, "You see those paintings around the office? 358 00:22:06,183 --> 00:22:08,947 Walk over to the first one". He had these Western paintings. 359 00:22:09,519 --> 00:22:12,044 He said, "Tell me what you see in that first painting". 360 00:22:12,222 --> 00:22:16,784 And I said, "Well, there's an Indian on a horse, and he's"... 361 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,157 He said, "No, no, no. Where's the horizon? 362 00:22:20,330 --> 00:22:23,060 Can't you find the horizon"? 363 00:22:23,533 --> 00:22:25,228 So I pointed to the horizon. 364 00:22:25,402 --> 00:22:27,597 He said, "Don't point. Where is it? 365 00:22:27,771 --> 00:22:29,966 Look at the whole picture. Where's the horizon"? 366 00:22:30,140 --> 00:22:32,119 I said, "At the very bottom of the painting". 367 00:22:32,120 --> 00:22:34,099 He said, "Fine. Go to the next one". 368 00:22:34,277 --> 00:22:35,471 I go to the next painting. 369 00:22:35,646 --> 00:22:38,012 He says, "Where's the horizon on that painting"? 370 00:22:38,181 --> 00:22:41,116 I looked at it, and I said, "It's the very top of the painting". 371 00:22:41,284 --> 00:22:42,444 He said, "Get over here". 372 00:22:42,619 --> 00:22:44,644 I walked over to his desk. I'm standing now. 373 00:22:44,821 --> 00:22:45,845 He's still sitting. 374 00:22:46,023 --> 00:22:50,653 He said, "When you can come to the conclusion... 375 00:22:50,827 --> 00:22:55,321 ...that putting the horizon at the bottom of a frame or the top of the frame... 376 00:22:55,499 --> 00:23:00,493 ...is a lot better than putting the horizon right in the middle of the frame... 377 00:23:00,671 --> 00:23:03,606 ...then you may someday make a good picture maker. 378 00:23:03,774 --> 00:23:05,537 Now get out of here". 379 00:23:22,793 --> 00:23:25,990 I was 13 years old and we walked into the Criterion Theater. 380 00:23:26,163 --> 00:23:27,892 And it was that VistaVision screen. 381 00:23:29,266 --> 00:23:30,893 And The Searchers was there, you know. 382 00:23:31,068 --> 00:23:34,663 And, uh, Wayne's character, Ethan Edwards, that was the key figure... 383 00:23:34,838 --> 00:23:38,968 ...in all the work of Ford for me and my own work, really, Ethan Edwards. 384 00:23:39,142 --> 00:23:41,576 Something mighty fishy about this trail, Uncle Ethan. 385 00:23:41,745 --> 00:23:43,645 Don't call me Uncle. 386 00:23:43,814 --> 00:23:45,111 I ain't your uncle. 387 00:23:45,282 --> 00:23:46,579 Yes, sir. 388 00:23:46,750 --> 00:23:49,548 No need to call me sir, either. 389 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,553 Nor Grandpa. Nor Methuselah. 390 00:23:52,723 --> 00:23:54,657 I can whup you to a prazzle. 391 00:24:08,205 --> 00:24:09,695 Martha! 392 00:24:09,873 --> 00:24:11,636 Martha! 393 00:24:32,629 --> 00:24:36,030 Leave them. Leave them to carry off their hurt and dead. 394 00:24:36,199 --> 00:24:38,633 Well, Reverend, that tears it. 395 00:24:38,802 --> 00:24:40,497 From now on, you stay out of this. 396 00:24:40,670 --> 00:24:43,468 All of you. I don't want you with me. 397 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,336 I don't need you for what I gotta do. 398 00:24:54,217 --> 00:24:57,414 Do you think maybe there's a chance we still might find her? 399 00:24:57,854 --> 00:25:02,587 Indian will chase that thing till he thinks he's chased it enough... 400 00:25:03,059 --> 00:25:04,754 ...then he quits. 401 00:25:04,928 --> 00:25:07,226 Same way when he runs. 402 00:25:07,397 --> 00:25:09,888 Seems like he never learns there's such a thing... 403 00:25:10,066 --> 00:25:14,127 ...as a critter who'll just keep coming on. 404 00:25:14,738 --> 00:25:18,139 So we'll find him in the end, I promise you. 405 00:25:18,308 --> 00:25:20,173 We'll find him. 406 00:25:20,343 --> 00:25:22,402 Just as sure as... 407 00:25:22,579 --> 00:25:24,479 ...the turning of the Earth. 408 00:25:26,683 --> 00:25:31,848 I think that Ford felt that he had a debt of gratitude to my dad... 409 00:25:32,022 --> 00:25:33,683 ...because of, uh... 410 00:25:34,691 --> 00:25:35,919 Well, he started him out. 411 00:25:39,396 --> 00:25:43,264 The billing was "Directed by Jack Ford"... 412 00:25:43,433 --> 00:25:47,927 ...and he was 22 when he made this film, his first feature, Straight Shooting. 413 00:25:48,839 --> 00:25:53,799 It was 1917 and the star was that great early Western hero Harry Carey. 414 00:25:53,977 --> 00:25:58,243 He and Ford were to make 26 pictures together. 415 00:26:01,117 --> 00:26:06,282 Born in Maine in 1894, both his parents having emigrated separately from Ireland... 416 00:26:06,456 --> 00:26:08,686 ...and met in the United States... 417 00:26:08,859 --> 00:26:13,626 ...Sean Aloysius O'Fearna was the youngest of four sons. 418 00:26:13,797 --> 00:26:17,062 His brother Francis had taken the name Ford... 419 00:26:17,234 --> 00:26:19,896 ...and was already a well-known movie star and director... 420 00:26:20,070 --> 00:26:25,440 ...by the time Jack started in pictures as a propman in 1914. 421 00:26:25,742 --> 00:26:28,233 During the next three years, he also worked... 422 00:26:28,411 --> 00:26:30,606 ...as a stunt rider, an actor. 423 00:26:30,780 --> 00:26:33,248 Finally became an assistant director. 424 00:26:33,416 --> 00:26:37,648 One day, while his director was out sick with a hangover... 425 00:26:37,821 --> 00:26:39,652 They'd brought people out from the east. 426 00:26:39,823 --> 00:26:42,986 I mean, the opening of Universal City, Carl Laemmle... 427 00:26:43,159 --> 00:26:45,059 ...had a lot of beauty contestants there. 428 00:26:45,228 --> 00:26:48,959 And, uh, we had a Western street and a bunch of cowboys. 429 00:26:49,132 --> 00:26:52,465 And, uh, Mr. Bernstein came riding up and he says: 430 00:26:52,636 --> 00:26:56,094 "You're the first assistant, you gotta shoot something while he's here. 431 00:26:56,273 --> 00:26:59,367 There's a big bunch of people, over 100". I said, "What will I do"? 432 00:26:59,542 --> 00:27:01,737 He says, "Do anything. You could let them ride". 433 00:27:01,912 --> 00:27:05,006 So they rode through the streets shooting at everything... 434 00:27:05,181 --> 00:27:06,614 ...for no reason at all. 435 00:27:06,783 --> 00:27:10,048 And I said to Mr. Bernstein, "And how was that"? And he says, "Fine". 436 00:27:10,220 --> 00:27:13,485 He says he talked with Mr. Laemmle. He says, uh, "Keep on working". 437 00:27:13,657 --> 00:27:14,851 I says, "What will I do"? 438 00:27:15,225 --> 00:27:17,056 He says, "Have them ride back". 439 00:27:17,227 --> 00:27:18,660 So they rode back shooting. 440 00:27:18,828 --> 00:27:21,353 He says, "Can't you have a couple of falls in there"? 441 00:27:21,831 --> 00:27:23,298 I said, "Oh, that will be easy". 442 00:27:23,466 --> 00:27:25,457 But these girls are all very pretty. 443 00:27:25,635 --> 00:27:28,331 The cowboys are sort of straightening their kerchiefs up... 444 00:27:28,505 --> 00:27:31,770 ...straightening their hats and trying to look as pretty as possible... 445 00:27:31,942 --> 00:27:33,466 ...and, uh, shining up to these gals. 446 00:27:33,643 --> 00:27:38,603 So, uh, I says, "I'll fire a pistol, and you, you and you do a horse fall... 447 00:27:38,782 --> 00:27:40,716 ...all fall off your horse". 448 00:27:40,884 --> 00:27:44,445 Well, the cowboys looked at one another. So I fired the shot. 449 00:27:44,621 --> 00:27:47,089 And then every cowboy... I think there were 30 of them. 450 00:27:47,257 --> 00:27:49,225 They all fell off their horses. 451 00:27:49,392 --> 00:27:52,418 And, uh, I said to Mr. Bernstein, "That's about it, isn't it"? 452 00:27:52,595 --> 00:27:55,359 He says, "Oh, no, keep on going. What can you do now"? 453 00:27:55,532 --> 00:28:00,367 So I put a lot of kerosene and gasoline on the place and burnt the town down. 454 00:28:01,071 --> 00:28:03,539 Of course, the sets were cheap. Just built of plywood. 455 00:28:03,707 --> 00:28:04,833 Didn't cost anything. 456 00:28:05,008 --> 00:28:08,000 So I burnt the town down, and they thought it was great. 457 00:28:08,178 --> 00:28:10,271 They had a picture coming up with Harry Carey. 458 00:28:10,447 --> 00:28:13,541 And they had no director, and, uh, Mr. Laemmle says: 459 00:28:13,717 --> 00:28:19,053 "That Jack Ford, he yells real loud. He'd make a good director". 460 00:28:22,959 --> 00:28:27,020 About the second day on the picture, there's quite a big scene going on... 461 00:28:27,197 --> 00:28:31,133 ...in which I have one line toward the end of the picture. 462 00:28:31,301 --> 00:28:32,768 The end of the scene. 463 00:28:32,936 --> 00:28:37,771 And, uh, it's telling the sheriff that I'll go whichever way he goes. 464 00:28:37,941 --> 00:28:41,570 And, uh, in the meantime, to keep me busy in the background... 465 00:28:41,745 --> 00:28:45,146 ...he has me, uh, washing my face and drying it. 466 00:28:45,315 --> 00:28:49,308 They're playing the scene, I was washing my face and he'd say, "Cut". 467 00:28:49,486 --> 00:28:53,149 All right. He'd look over at me and say, "Let's do it again". 468 00:28:53,323 --> 00:28:57,384 And I had become conscious that he's certainly paying a lot of attention to me... 469 00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,858 ...with that scene going on over there. 470 00:29:00,030 --> 00:29:04,330 So finally, I did it. And he says, "Cut. Duke, you're dabbing your face. 471 00:29:04,501 --> 00:29:06,025 Can't you wash"? 472 00:29:06,202 --> 00:29:09,262 I said, "I am washing. I'm doing this. What more can I do? 473 00:29:09,439 --> 00:29:11,999 I'm using the towel hard like that. What more can I do"? 474 00:29:12,175 --> 00:29:16,407 Well, a big scene came up and he just bawled me out... 475 00:29:16,579 --> 00:29:22,074 ...to where, finally, all the crew, all the actors... 476 00:29:22,252 --> 00:29:25,278 ...uh, the cast was completely on my side. 477 00:29:25,455 --> 00:29:29,050 And, uh, from then on, I had the cast helping me, you know... 478 00:29:29,225 --> 00:29:34,686 ...as my first time really in the big time working with so many top people. 479 00:29:34,864 --> 00:29:36,627 You think he planned it that way? 480 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,030 I know he planned it that way. 481 00:29:39,202 --> 00:29:41,762 As a matter of fact, he had little Tim Holt... 482 00:29:41,938 --> 00:29:44,771 ...who was not, uh, much more in the business than I. 483 00:29:44,941 --> 00:29:48,001 And Holt finally said, "Stop picking on Duke". 484 00:29:48,178 --> 00:29:54,083 And this topped it for Jack, you know, and then he knew he got his point across. 485 00:29:54,250 --> 00:29:57,549 I think he did it on purpose. 486 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,655 He has a way of picking on actors... 487 00:30:00,824 --> 00:30:05,921 ...when they're, um, uh, not too important a part of a scene... 488 00:30:06,096 --> 00:30:08,963 ...in order to get them on their toes so they'll come ready... 489 00:30:09,132 --> 00:30:14,263 ...when they really have something to do, and then he handles you like a baby. 490 00:30:14,537 --> 00:30:19,804 Ford knew that there were 150, 200 people in the company... 491 00:30:19,976 --> 00:30:24,777 ...with a large cast and all this crew that would be stuck on this location... 492 00:30:24,948 --> 00:30:28,213 ...with nothing to do at night, and we were there for three weeks. 493 00:30:28,384 --> 00:30:30,113 And every night... 494 00:30:30,286 --> 00:30:35,622 ...after mess, after chow, after dinner, there would be a campfire. 495 00:30:35,792 --> 00:30:38,727 And there would be, uh, something different happening every night. 496 00:30:38,895 --> 00:30:40,795 He put me in charge, as a matter of fact. 497 00:30:40,964 --> 00:30:45,492 And I was the camp director of Camp June Alaska, we called it. 498 00:30:45,668 --> 00:30:47,499 A camp for boys between the ages of 14. 499 00:30:47,670 --> 00:30:49,865 I remember that was a phrase. 500 00:30:50,039 --> 00:30:52,007 But there would be a program every night. 501 00:30:52,175 --> 00:30:55,201 And, um, during the day, when you're on the set... 502 00:30:55,378 --> 00:30:59,212 ...between takes, you're talking about it and planning it and organizing. 503 00:30:59,382 --> 00:31:03,216 Anyway, it was something that people got to look forward to. 504 00:31:03,386 --> 00:31:05,911 And I remember at the end, at the end of the program... 505 00:31:06,089 --> 00:31:09,149 ...whatever it was each night, Ford would give the cue to... 506 00:31:09,325 --> 00:31:11,520 There was, a bugle player. 507 00:31:11,694 --> 00:31:16,722 He was probably an actor, a small-part actor, who played a bugle. 508 00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:20,597 And he would be given the cue when nobody could see Ford give it just on set... 509 00:31:20,770 --> 00:31:23,762 ...and he would disappear into the woods there. 510 00:31:23,940 --> 00:31:27,876 And suddenly, when it had got to the last song, whatever it was... 511 00:31:28,044 --> 00:31:30,945 ...he would blow "Taps" from way back in the woods. 512 00:31:31,114 --> 00:31:35,414 And I tell you that people would cry with nostalgia. 513 00:31:35,585 --> 00:31:37,712 It was like being a child again at camp. 514 00:31:37,887 --> 00:31:41,550 If you came into the Ford set, into the sound stage... 515 00:31:41,724 --> 00:31:45,251 ...it was like walking into a cathedral or a church. 516 00:31:45,695 --> 00:31:49,187 There was a spell that was in there in that set. 517 00:31:49,365 --> 00:31:53,597 And he cast the spell. I mean, he did. It just emanated from him. 518 00:31:53,770 --> 00:31:58,833 When you look at the amount of, films... 519 00:31:59,008 --> 00:32:01,636 ...that a guy like John Ford has done, you know... 520 00:32:01,811 --> 00:32:04,473 ...when he walks on the set, he's not sitting there... 521 00:32:04,647 --> 00:32:09,016 ...quaking about what the first shot's gonna be and how am I gonna handle this... 522 00:32:09,185 --> 00:32:14,487 ...and what the actors are gonna think, how am I gonna establish rapport. 523 00:32:14,657 --> 00:32:16,420 He's gonna just step right up and say: 524 00:32:16,593 --> 00:32:19,221 "Okay, here's the first shot. We're gonna come over here. 525 00:32:19,395 --> 00:32:20,953 Somebody's gonna go over there". 526 00:32:21,130 --> 00:32:22,529 That's the way it's gonna be. 527 00:32:22,699 --> 00:32:24,564 Bad directors don't try to say anything. 528 00:32:24,734 --> 00:32:27,100 Good directors, I think, try to say something. 529 00:32:27,270 --> 00:32:29,101 And if you're really a good director... 530 00:32:29,272 --> 00:32:32,730 ...you at least try to maybe say several different things. 531 00:32:32,909 --> 00:32:37,846 Ford, of course, was a master at staging, shooting, all the things you wanna say. 532 00:32:38,014 --> 00:32:40,505 Poet. Catholic poet. 533 00:32:40,683 --> 00:32:44,312 They were always, always trying to keep it moving. 534 00:32:44,487 --> 00:32:46,614 You got the feeling you were going somewhere... 535 00:32:46,789 --> 00:32:48,381 ...when you were making a picture. 536 00:32:48,558 --> 00:32:50,526 The feeling at beginning of every day... 537 00:32:50,693 --> 00:32:53,127 ...you were gonna complete a certain segment of it... 538 00:32:53,296 --> 00:32:57,995 ...and, uh, not be coming back to it the next day... 539 00:32:58,167 --> 00:33:00,499 ...and revisiting the same thing over... 540 00:33:00,670 --> 00:33:04,766 ...because the guy wants to do 40 takes on some guy's close-up or something. 541 00:33:05,041 --> 00:33:08,670 A key scene for me in any of the Ford pictures, maybe not one of his strongest... 542 00:33:08,845 --> 00:33:10,437 ...Two Rode Together. Yeah. 543 00:33:10,613 --> 00:33:13,810 And it's the scene with Jimmy Stewart and Rich Widmark on the riverbank. 544 00:33:13,983 --> 00:33:16,474 Yeah. - One take. 545 00:33:16,653 --> 00:33:17,915 Dialogue. 546 00:33:18,087 --> 00:33:20,749 Uh, the relationship of the two, the humor. 547 00:33:21,190 --> 00:33:25,559 And I said, "I wanna make scenes like that. I wanna deal with characters like that. 548 00:33:25,728 --> 00:33:28,060 Uh, I wanna create films like that". 549 00:33:28,231 --> 00:33:30,563 The first thing Ford did was walk out in the river. 550 00:33:30,733 --> 00:33:34,931 Nobody knew how deep it was, and everybody sort of sat there... 551 00:33:35,104 --> 00:33:40,371 ...and no one knew exactly why he walked out in the river. 552 00:33:40,543 --> 00:33:43,535 Because we didn't really know that this was where... 553 00:33:43,713 --> 00:33:46,079 ...we were going to shoot the scene. 554 00:33:46,249 --> 00:33:47,614 Uh... 555 00:33:48,051 --> 00:33:52,283 But as happens so often, Ford walked out in the river. 556 00:33:52,455 --> 00:33:55,720 Fortunately, it wasn't too deep. It was about up to here. 557 00:33:55,892 --> 00:34:00,124 So everybody else walked out in the river. 558 00:34:00,296 --> 00:34:05,666 They said, you know, "If the boss did, I guess he's out there for some reason". 559 00:34:05,835 --> 00:34:10,272 So the cameramen went out, and the gaffer. 560 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,739 And, Ford said, "Right here". 561 00:34:14,410 --> 00:34:18,540 Which meant, "This is where the camera will be". 562 00:34:18,715 --> 00:34:24,715 So they all got the camera together, and it was a rather long scene on the water. 563 00:34:25,321 --> 00:34:30,782 The sound man said, "I can't... The sound, it's a river". 564 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,292 And Ford said, "What"? 565 00:34:35,064 --> 00:34:38,056 And then the sound man didn't say anything more. 566 00:34:38,234 --> 00:34:41,670 And, uh, so we did the scene. 567 00:34:41,838 --> 00:34:44,272 Discussing that scene with Jimmy Stewart one time... 568 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,932 ...he said that just before they made the shot... 569 00:34:48,111 --> 00:34:50,204 ...Ford had taken Stewart aside and said: 570 00:34:50,380 --> 00:34:54,441 "Watch out for Widmark. He's a good country actor". 571 00:34:54,617 --> 00:34:59,077 And, Jimmy said that that kind of put him on his guard for the whole scene. 572 00:34:59,255 --> 00:35:01,917 And he told me that after they'd finished the scene... 573 00:35:02,091 --> 00:35:04,491 ...he was discussing everything with Widmark... 574 00:35:04,660 --> 00:35:07,424 ...and was told that Ford had come up to Widmark... 575 00:35:07,597 --> 00:35:10,657 ...just before they made the scene and said exactly the same thing. 576 00:35:10,833 --> 00:35:13,165 "Watch out for Stewart. He's a good country actor". 577 00:35:13,536 --> 00:35:14,764 I can't figure it out. 578 00:35:14,937 --> 00:35:17,132 No fuss. 579 00:35:17,306 --> 00:35:19,206 No argument. 580 00:35:19,375 --> 00:35:22,242 What made you decide to come along? 581 00:35:23,112 --> 00:35:25,012 Ride all night on some wild goose chase. 582 00:35:25,181 --> 00:35:27,706 I'll tell you this, you didn't decide me to come along. 583 00:35:27,884 --> 00:35:29,943 - I tell you that. - I didn't figure I did. 584 00:35:31,754 --> 00:35:34,917 Those things come, one in a box? 585 00:35:35,091 --> 00:35:37,059 - Don't you ever buy your own cigars? - Sure. 586 00:35:37,226 --> 00:35:39,660 I bought two last payday. That was three months ago. 587 00:35:39,829 --> 00:35:41,091 Here. 588 00:35:41,264 --> 00:35:42,697 Thanks a lot. 589 00:35:47,203 --> 00:35:48,500 Hey, I got a match. 590 00:35:48,671 --> 00:35:51,765 Gee, I'm surprised you can afford matches. 591 00:35:52,175 --> 00:35:54,336 I can handle that all right. 592 00:35:58,481 --> 00:36:00,346 Why did you come? 593 00:36:00,850 --> 00:36:02,841 Hmm? Well... 594 00:36:03,753 --> 00:36:08,417 If you must know, it was mostly to get away from Belle. 595 00:36:08,591 --> 00:36:10,456 Belle? Why? 596 00:36:10,626 --> 00:36:14,084 - I thought you two were kind of... - I know, I know, I know. 597 00:36:15,832 --> 00:36:21,031 Well, to be completely ungentlemanly about it, I... 598 00:36:21,204 --> 00:36:23,399 Not that I ever pretended to be otherwise. 599 00:36:23,573 --> 00:36:25,006 We were, we were. 600 00:36:25,174 --> 00:36:27,074 That's what I heard. 601 00:36:27,243 --> 00:36:28,767 And... 602 00:36:30,513 --> 00:36:33,971 ...just lately, she started calling me Guth. 603 00:36:34,617 --> 00:36:35,845 I noticed that. 604 00:36:36,018 --> 00:36:39,749 Guth. The first time I heard it, I thought she got something stuck in her teeth. 605 00:36:39,922 --> 00:36:40,946 Guth, Guth, Guth. 606 00:36:41,123 --> 00:36:43,956 But she didn't have anything stuck in her teeth. 607 00:36:44,126 --> 00:36:45,423 It was in her craw. 608 00:36:45,595 --> 00:36:50,464 And, uh, a few nights ago, she got it out. 609 00:36:51,567 --> 00:36:53,626 Yeah? Go ahead. What happened? 610 00:36:53,803 --> 00:36:56,670 Well, that's not a subject you can discuss in mixed company. 611 00:36:56,839 --> 00:37:00,172 Especially when one of the parties is... 612 00:37:00,343 --> 00:37:02,368 It's matrimony. 613 00:37:02,845 --> 00:37:04,437 No. 614 00:37:04,614 --> 00:37:05,638 Matrimony. 615 00:37:05,815 --> 00:37:07,874 Holy smoke. Matrimony. 616 00:37:08,050 --> 00:37:13,488 And of course, in this case, when one of the parties is sort of... 617 00:37:13,656 --> 00:37:17,422 You know, she carries a stiletto right there in her garter. 618 00:37:17,593 --> 00:37:19,925 Hmm. I know. 619 00:37:20,096 --> 00:37:23,327 And we were sitting around the place talking. 620 00:37:24,433 --> 00:37:26,025 How do you know? 621 00:37:26,202 --> 00:37:28,261 Well, you just told me. 622 00:37:29,705 --> 00:37:33,607 Say, she actually proposed, huh? 623 00:37:33,776 --> 00:37:35,368 You didn't know about that before? 624 00:37:35,545 --> 00:37:37,706 - About what? - About the stiletto. 625 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:41,281 How would I know about that before? Come on. 626 00:37:41,651 --> 00:37:44,279 What do you mean? Did she propose? No. 627 00:37:44,453 --> 00:37:47,479 She didn't, if you mean getting down on one knee. 628 00:37:47,657 --> 00:37:49,420 She didn't do that. 629 00:37:49,592 --> 00:37:52,857 You have to give her credit for a little more animal cunning than that. 630 00:37:53,029 --> 00:37:54,894 No, as I... 631 00:37:56,532 --> 00:37:58,966 As I remember the approach... 632 00:37:59,135 --> 00:38:01,660 ...it was that she didn't see why I was satisfied... 633 00:38:01,837 --> 00:38:03,600 ...with just 10 percent of her take... 634 00:38:03,773 --> 00:38:07,436 ...when she was willing to go for fifty-fifty. 635 00:38:08,644 --> 00:38:12,136 You mean to tell me you've been getting 10 percent of Madam Aragon's place? 636 00:38:12,315 --> 00:38:15,182 - Don't tell me you didn't know. - No, I didn't know about that. 637 00:38:15,351 --> 00:38:17,342 I get 10 percent of everything in Tascosa. 638 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,010 Holy crimanetta. 639 00:38:19,188 --> 00:38:21,418 This goes along with the job of marshal. 640 00:38:21,591 --> 00:38:23,491 - You're a dirt... - It's no secret about it. 641 00:38:23,659 --> 00:38:25,752 - You're a dirty thief. - Everybody knows it. 642 00:38:25,928 --> 00:38:27,987 What? Wait a minute. 643 00:38:29,065 --> 00:38:32,228 You don't think I could live on a marshal's salary, do you? 644 00:38:32,401 --> 00:38:34,164 A measly hundred dollars a month, Jim? 645 00:38:34,337 --> 00:38:35,804 Well, that's 20 more than I get. 646 00:38:35,972 --> 00:38:39,738 I know, but look. Look at you. 647 00:38:39,909 --> 00:38:41,001 Look at you. Jim. 648 00:38:41,177 --> 00:38:42,974 - What? - Jim. 649 00:38:43,379 --> 00:38:47,338 - You're a man of simple wants. - Aw... 650 00:38:47,516 --> 00:38:49,848 I just require a little more, that's all. 651 00:38:50,019 --> 00:38:53,113 And he walked out of the river. 652 00:38:53,623 --> 00:38:57,059 And he said, uh, "I think that does it". 653 00:38:57,226 --> 00:39:02,391 Well, now, this was a two-shot, and as I say, sort of a key scene. 654 00:39:02,565 --> 00:39:05,830 Uh, we expected at least over-shoulders or something. 655 00:39:06,002 --> 00:39:08,368 But he said: 656 00:39:08,537 --> 00:39:12,564 "I think that's enough of that scene". 657 00:39:13,342 --> 00:39:16,277 - We get a setup, isn't that right, Brick? Yes, sir. 658 00:39:17,747 --> 00:39:20,079 And photograph it where everybody's face is seen... 659 00:39:20,249 --> 00:39:24,879 ...and the movements are all laid out and rehearsed... 660 00:39:25,054 --> 00:39:27,045 ...and usually get it in the first take. 661 00:39:27,223 --> 00:39:30,249 He's very unhappy if he doesn't get it on the first take. 662 00:39:30,426 --> 00:39:32,417 He likes... 663 00:39:34,330 --> 00:39:38,198 ...the emotion to be the first-time emotion. 664 00:39:39,335 --> 00:39:41,997 The actor is fresher... 665 00:39:42,171 --> 00:39:43,661 And he's up and he's more enthused. 666 00:39:43,839 --> 00:39:46,034 And the more takes you take... 667 00:39:46,509 --> 00:39:49,239 ...if somebody misses a line, I mean, you know... 668 00:39:49,412 --> 00:39:51,277 ...the scene goes down and down and down. 669 00:39:51,447 --> 00:39:54,780 It gets tiresome. And they get tired. 670 00:39:54,950 --> 00:39:57,077 Right after the first day, I was pretty sure... 671 00:39:57,253 --> 00:39:59,778 ...that he tried to get everything on the first take... 672 00:39:59,955 --> 00:40:03,413 ...because it was more spontaneous and people were up and keyed up. 673 00:40:03,592 --> 00:40:07,722 The great ambition an actor has is to try to make it sound like this is the first time... 674 00:40:07,897 --> 00:40:10,559 ...this thought's ever been transmitted... 675 00:40:10,733 --> 00:40:15,397 ...and it's the first time this thought's, these words have ever been spoken. 676 00:40:15,571 --> 00:40:18,301 If you do it 30 times... 677 00:40:18,474 --> 00:40:21,841 ...the actor is working strictly on technique... 678 00:40:22,011 --> 00:40:25,447 ...to kind of try to give that illusion like it's the first time. 679 00:40:25,614 --> 00:40:27,707 If you're trying for it on the first take... 680 00:40:27,883 --> 00:40:30,351 When the scene starts... 681 00:40:31,187 --> 00:40:36,124 ...you suddenly realize that you're not sure what's going to happen... 682 00:40:36,292 --> 00:40:38,920 ...because you haven't rehearsed it, you haven't... 683 00:40:39,095 --> 00:40:41,928 You don't know exactly what's going to happen. 684 00:40:42,098 --> 00:40:47,058 Uh, I suppose you might call it planned improvisation. 685 00:40:48,471 --> 00:40:50,200 Well, there's an element of chance... 686 00:40:50,372 --> 00:40:53,307 ...but I don't think there's any nervousness in it. 687 00:40:53,476 --> 00:40:55,910 It always came off. 688 00:40:56,078 --> 00:40:58,706 And the actors after all, I mean, 689 00:41:02,318 --> 00:41:07,085 ...are good, and they, you know, I mean they're pros... 690 00:41:07,256 --> 00:41:10,657 ...and they'll take advantage of any accident that happens. 691 00:41:10,826 --> 00:41:14,728 I've heard him say most of the good things in movies happen by accident. 692 00:41:24,940 --> 00:41:27,636 It's the kind of thing that gave Ford the reputation... 693 00:41:27,810 --> 00:41:32,179 ...of having the luck of the Irish, because things would happen for him... 694 00:41:32,348 --> 00:41:34,316 ...that wouldn't happen for anybody else. 695 00:41:34,483 --> 00:41:37,043 One of the all-time great examples was during the war... 696 00:41:37,219 --> 00:41:40,552 ...when he was, head of the field photo service... 697 00:41:40,723 --> 00:41:45,854 ...and he was on his way into the Pacific and staged through Midway. 698 00:41:46,028 --> 00:41:50,226 Now, Ford certainly didn't know that the Japs were hitting the next morning. 699 00:41:50,399 --> 00:41:53,027 They didn't know at Midway, so you know Ford didn't know. 700 00:41:53,202 --> 00:41:55,432 But he happened to be there that night... 701 00:41:55,604 --> 00:41:58,266 ...and stayed overnight and was flying out the next day... 702 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,102 ...to wherever he was going, maybe it was Australia. 703 00:42:01,277 --> 00:42:04,769 But at dawn the next day, the Japs struck. 704 00:42:04,947 --> 00:42:08,508 And here's Ford asleep in his bunk at BOQ when it all happens. 705 00:42:08,684 --> 00:42:14,684 And he gets up and grabs his 16 mm cartridge-loading camera... 706 00:42:15,024 --> 00:42:16,821 ...and rushed up onto the roof. 707 00:42:33,242 --> 00:42:36,803 Yes, this really happened. 708 00:42:52,428 --> 00:42:56,626 Now, that's not something you could say, "I missed it, do it again". 709 00:42:56,799 --> 00:42:59,359 But it was one of the all-time great shots for Ford... 710 00:42:59,535 --> 00:43:02,368 ...and he's there at the right time. 711 00:43:03,205 --> 00:43:05,400 No, that's just luck. 712 00:43:06,342 --> 00:43:09,573 That's just occasionally you get some luck in pictures. 713 00:43:09,745 --> 00:43:12,145 More occasionally you have bad luck. 714 00:43:12,314 --> 00:43:14,680 If something happens that wasn't premeditated... 715 00:43:14,850 --> 00:43:19,014 ...I mean, and it happens, I mean, photograph it. 716 00:43:20,789 --> 00:43:24,885 Like the scene in... What is it? She Wore a Yellow Ribbon. 717 00:43:25,995 --> 00:43:28,429 A terrific thunderstorm came up with lightning... 718 00:43:28,597 --> 00:43:31,998 ...I mean, flashing all over the skies... 719 00:43:33,035 --> 00:43:36,801 ...and, all the tourists, I mean, broke for their cars. 720 00:43:39,008 --> 00:43:41,067 And I said, "Let's shoot it". 721 00:43:43,746 --> 00:43:47,341 We had a very, very pedantic cameraman on it. 722 00:43:49,251 --> 00:43:54,655 Very slow, and he says, "So we shot this under protest". 723 00:43:54,823 --> 00:43:59,351 Winnie Hoch said, later on, "I never refused to do the shot". 724 00:43:59,528 --> 00:44:01,428 He said, "I never refused to do the shot". 725 00:44:01,597 --> 00:44:05,033 I just said, "I'm not sure if it will work out". 726 00:44:06,302 --> 00:44:09,999 So we had the cavalry riding into the thunderstorm... 727 00:44:10,172 --> 00:44:14,609 ...lightning flashing and, thunder rolling and everything else. 728 00:44:14,777 --> 00:44:17,644 It made it an interesting shot. 729 00:44:18,113 --> 00:44:21,014 Then we finished it up in the studio, I mean, the operation. 730 00:44:23,085 --> 00:44:26,077 He put "under protest" on it and won the Academy Award. 731 00:44:35,331 --> 00:44:37,595 The arrowhead's right over Quayne's heart, Nathan. 732 00:44:37,766 --> 00:44:38,926 It's got to come out. 733 00:44:39,101 --> 00:44:42,468 - Well? - It's a risky operation at best. 734 00:44:42,638 --> 00:44:45,106 - Can you halt? - You know I can't. 735 00:44:45,274 --> 00:44:46,707 For 30 minutes, Nathan. 736 00:44:46,875 --> 00:44:48,570 Twenty minutes. For a man's life. 737 00:44:48,744 --> 00:44:52,441 Doctor, I couldn't give you five minutes. Not if it was my own son. 738 00:44:52,614 --> 00:44:55,708 Quayne's a soldier. He'll have to take a soldier's risks. 739 00:44:55,884 --> 00:44:58,785 He knows that. I'm the one that's begging. 740 00:44:58,954 --> 00:45:00,080 I'll give you all I can. 741 00:45:00,255 --> 00:45:03,247 Troop halt! Dismount leads. 742 00:45:03,425 --> 00:45:05,120 Thank you, Nathan. 743 00:45:05,294 --> 00:45:07,854 Hold your cap in the ranks. 744 00:45:26,448 --> 00:45:31,249 So many times I have read and been told about the Ford luck. 745 00:45:31,420 --> 00:45:32,444 Ford luck. 746 00:45:32,621 --> 00:45:35,283 But that wonderful scene when I walked down... 747 00:45:35,457 --> 00:45:37,982 ...after being married to the mine owner's son. 748 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,061 And I walked down the steps from the church... 749 00:45:41,230 --> 00:45:44,927 ...and my veil up on the back of my neck went and spiraled up in the sky. 750 00:45:45,100 --> 00:45:47,227 And everybody said, "Oh, that Ford luck. 751 00:45:47,403 --> 00:45:50,372 How wonderful that was. What an effect it had". 752 00:45:50,539 --> 00:45:52,700 Rubbish. It wasn't Ford luck. 753 00:45:52,875 --> 00:45:56,072 It was three wind machines, placed by John Ford... 754 00:45:56,245 --> 00:45:59,078 ...and I had to walk up and down those steps many times... 755 00:45:59,248 --> 00:46:04,015 ...while he worked out that the wind machine would do exactly that. 756 00:46:29,144 --> 00:46:31,374 Now, in that clip, the man under the tree... 757 00:46:31,547 --> 00:46:34,516 ...is Walter Pidgeon, who's the minister of that church. 758 00:46:34,683 --> 00:46:37,015 He's madly in love with Maureen O'Hara's character. 759 00:46:37,186 --> 00:46:40,246 She's madly in love with him, but she has to marry someone else... 760 00:46:40,422 --> 00:46:45,086 ...because their relationship has been deeply frowned on by the society. 761 00:46:45,260 --> 00:46:48,627 So he's obviously very unhappy under the tree. 762 00:46:48,797 --> 00:46:53,564 And Ford has them ride off, and you just see him under the tree... 763 00:46:53,735 --> 00:46:56,602 ...and that's the end of the sequence. 764 00:46:57,272 --> 00:46:59,934 So they shot this shot... 765 00:47:00,109 --> 00:47:03,806 ...and the cameraman, Artie Miller, came over to Ford... 766 00:47:03,979 --> 00:47:07,847 ...and said, "Jack, you think we should get a close-up of Walter under the tree"? 767 00:47:08,016 --> 00:47:11,452 And Ford said, "Oh, Jesus, no. I mean, they'll just use it". 768 00:47:11,620 --> 00:47:14,020 Because he shot in the studio system... 769 00:47:14,189 --> 00:47:17,249 ...and all those people shot in the studio system in those days... 770 00:47:17,426 --> 00:47:22,591 ...where groups of executives would come and scrutinize your dailies... 771 00:47:22,764 --> 00:47:25,756 ...and they could come along and maybe bring in another editor... 772 00:47:25,934 --> 00:47:30,098 ...and try to edit along simultaneously with you or something. 773 00:47:30,272 --> 00:47:31,933 I think they didn't want to do that. 774 00:47:32,107 --> 00:47:35,008 They wanted to just put down their picture, so they would quit. 775 00:47:35,177 --> 00:47:39,079 I've worked with directors like that. They would just cut, stop... 776 00:47:39,248 --> 00:47:43,378 ...where they wanted the camera to stop so that you couldn't edit it... 777 00:47:43,552 --> 00:47:44,814 ...too many different ways. 778 00:47:44,987 --> 00:47:47,114 You know, Ford, always said: 779 00:47:47,289 --> 00:47:51,157 "I had a thousand fights with the studios and I lost them all". 780 00:47:51,326 --> 00:47:56,525 And, still there's The Grapes of Wrath and My Darling Clementine... 781 00:47:56,698 --> 00:48:00,759 ...and They Were Expendable, and so... 782 00:48:00,936 --> 00:48:03,131 I'd like to lose some fights like that. 783 00:48:03,305 --> 00:48:06,832 I really admired the way he would stage and block his characters. 784 00:48:07,009 --> 00:48:12,242 And often he would hold shots where everybody would be in a full shot... 785 00:48:12,414 --> 00:48:14,507 ...composed in a painterly fashion... 786 00:48:14,683 --> 00:48:19,518 ...not as archly operatic as Cecil B. DeMille... 787 00:48:19,688 --> 00:48:23,385 ...but they still looked like, you know, beautiful poses. 788 00:48:23,559 --> 00:48:29,259 And yet he'd find some naturalistic way to get your mind off of the frame... 789 00:48:29,431 --> 00:48:32,161 ...and get yourself inside the story. 790 00:48:32,334 --> 00:48:35,462 The beauty of his compositions, I just said at the time... 791 00:48:35,637 --> 00:48:37,935 ...the pictures, the way they looked. 792 00:48:38,106 --> 00:48:43,442 Um, and later on I tried to analyze why, and, obviously it's the authenticity. 793 00:48:43,612 --> 00:48:46,672 In a sense, the authenticity of the way the people behave... 794 00:48:46,848 --> 00:48:49,840 ...the dust on the clothes, body language. 795 00:48:50,018 --> 00:48:51,610 Nobody ever staged better. 796 00:48:51,787 --> 00:48:56,451 Nobody ever staged actors to camera better. 797 00:48:56,625 --> 00:48:59,560 But at the same time, it seems organic. 798 00:48:59,728 --> 00:49:02,094 He would just allow a shot to be set. 799 00:49:02,264 --> 00:49:05,597 And the shot would just evolve, and it would just keep evolving. 800 00:49:05,767 --> 00:49:08,668 Pretty soon you got a chance to study it, much like a painting. 801 00:49:08,837 --> 00:49:12,705 I think the thing I learned so much about, you know, by watching John Ford films... 802 00:49:12,874 --> 00:49:14,705 ...is he is a painter. 803 00:49:14,876 --> 00:49:16,969 And, he was a great painter. 804 00:49:17,145 --> 00:49:20,512 It just took him a hundred crew members to help him paint the canvas. 805 00:49:20,682 --> 00:49:24,277 The opening scene in The Searchers where Ward Bond, arrives at the house... 806 00:49:24,453 --> 00:49:27,217 ...and asks for some coffee, and, asks for those doughnuts... 807 00:49:27,389 --> 00:49:30,085 ...and the way he's behaving, the way everybody's moving... 808 00:49:30,259 --> 00:49:32,420 ...in that frame, in the kitchen... 809 00:49:32,594 --> 00:49:35,461 ...I think to me that was Ford. 810 00:49:35,631 --> 00:49:39,658 That when I felt that I wanted to spend time with people I love... 811 00:49:39,835 --> 00:49:42,599 ...and I knew they were being handled with love in the film. 812 00:49:42,771 --> 00:49:44,033 That was Ford to me. 813 00:49:44,206 --> 00:49:45,798 - Morning, Lucy. - Reverend. 814 00:49:45,974 --> 00:49:47,703 - Debbie, you been baptized? - No. 815 00:49:47,876 --> 00:49:50,470 - Aaron, get Martin, will you? - Martin. 816 00:49:53,148 --> 00:49:56,413 I can sure use that coffee. Pass the sugar, son. 817 00:49:56,585 --> 00:49:58,553 Oh, fine, fine. 818 00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:01,280 Wait a minute, sister. I didn't get any coffee yet here. 819 00:50:01,456 --> 00:50:03,048 Oh, doughnuts. Thank you, sister. 820 00:50:03,225 --> 00:50:06,126 I'm sure fond of them doughnuts. 821 00:50:06,595 --> 00:50:09,359 Aaron, Martin, come on up here. 822 00:50:09,531 --> 00:50:10,793 Come on. 823 00:50:10,966 --> 00:50:13,093 - Raise your right hand... Martin. - Yes, sir. 824 00:50:13,268 --> 00:50:14,701 Raise your right hand. 825 00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:19,000 You are hereby voluntary privates in Company A of the Texas Rangers. 826 00:50:19,174 --> 00:50:21,574 - You will faithfully discharge... - Can I go with you? 827 00:50:21,743 --> 00:50:24,712 - Go get my shirt, boy. - Quiet. Where was I? 828 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,313 Faithfully fulfill. 829 00:50:26,481 --> 00:50:28,745 - You will faithfully discharge... - Mrs. Edwards. 830 00:50:28,917 --> 00:50:30,714 Shut up! 831 00:50:31,286 --> 00:50:34,517 You will faithfully discharge your duties, as such... 832 00:50:34,690 --> 00:50:37,682 ...without recompense or monetary consideration. 833 00:50:37,859 --> 00:50:40,453 Amen. That means no pay. And better get a shirt on. 834 00:50:40,629 --> 00:50:42,961 I ain't going volunteering till I've had my coffee. 835 00:50:43,131 --> 00:50:45,395 - Drink your own, Reverend. - Just call me captain. 836 00:50:45,567 --> 00:50:48,968 Captain. The Reverend Samuel Johnston Clayton. 837 00:50:49,137 --> 00:50:52,265 - Mighty impressive. - Well. 838 00:50:52,441 --> 00:50:56,810 He starts the day by everybody being there on time at 9:00 in the morning. 839 00:50:56,978 --> 00:50:58,570 Then he calls you over to the set. 840 00:50:58,747 --> 00:50:59,771 Usually he'd say: 841 00:50:59,948 --> 00:51:03,111 "Well, you come in that door, you come in this door over here... 842 00:51:03,285 --> 00:51:07,551 ...you're sitting on the couch," and just run through the lines. 843 00:51:07,723 --> 00:51:10,487 Now, he'd let you run through those lines... 844 00:51:10,659 --> 00:51:15,062 ...and develop your, actions... 845 00:51:15,230 --> 00:51:19,860 ...your physical actions to the lines in those rehearsals. 846 00:51:20,035 --> 00:51:22,435 He doesn't say, "I want you to come into the door... 847 00:51:22,604 --> 00:51:25,300 ...and come over and stand right there by that plant". 848 00:51:25,474 --> 00:51:28,568 He doesn't... There's no, "You must, you must, you must". 849 00:51:28,744 --> 00:51:31,872 He just says, "Rehearse the scene quietly". You know? 850 00:51:32,147 --> 00:51:36,083 Ford has... He puts some flats up and has a long table... 851 00:51:36,251 --> 00:51:42,251 ...and we go before a scene and, we read the scene. 852 00:51:43,091 --> 00:51:47,824 But I've never really felt that Ford, used this as a rehearsal. 853 00:51:47,996 --> 00:51:50,396 I've always felt that he used it... 854 00:51:50,565 --> 00:51:55,628 ...because he wasn't sure he liked some of the dialogue. 855 00:51:55,804 --> 00:51:57,431 He has such an analytical mind. 856 00:51:57,606 --> 00:51:59,801 He knows the difference between the trivia... 857 00:51:59,975 --> 00:52:04,469 ...and the meat of a scene like no one I ever worked with. 858 00:52:04,646 --> 00:52:08,742 He would have Dudley Nichols rewrite scene after scene after scene... 859 00:52:08,917 --> 00:52:11,385 This was before the picture started. 860 00:52:11,553 --> 00:52:14,351 - And then just reach down and take a line out of this one... 861 00:52:14,523 --> 00:52:16,991 ...a line out of this one, and then three lines... 862 00:52:17,159 --> 00:52:19,320 ...out of all this wonderful writing... 863 00:52:19,494 --> 00:52:24,193 ...but, flowery, language of Dudley Nichols. 864 00:52:24,366 --> 00:52:28,496 He'd just go right to the valuable thoughts. 865 00:52:28,670 --> 00:52:32,231 Because I'd know we've done this and we've read something... 866 00:52:32,407 --> 00:52:34,398 ...and I would read something, and he'd say: 867 00:52:34,576 --> 00:52:38,945 "Wait a minute. What script do you have"? 868 00:52:39,548 --> 00:52:43,746 Well, you know, I said, "This is the script you gave". 869 00:52:43,919 --> 00:52:46,581 He said, "This, it's not the script I have. 870 00:52:46,755 --> 00:52:49,553 I never had... That's a terrible line". 871 00:52:49,724 --> 00:52:52,090 I said, "Well, there, there's the line". 872 00:52:52,260 --> 00:52:55,627 He said, "Well, isn't everybody agreed that that's awful"? 873 00:52:56,998 --> 00:52:58,932 Everybody said, "Yeah". 874 00:52:59,100 --> 00:53:02,467 Duke Wayne said, "Well, maybe it's the way Stewart reads it, you know". 875 00:53:02,637 --> 00:53:06,664 And, pretty soon the page is torn out. 876 00:53:06,842 --> 00:53:10,505 And he said, "Now let's go over it without that page". 877 00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:15,048 I think that, lots of times he does that... 878 00:53:15,217 --> 00:53:18,778 ...just to sort of cut down on the dialogue. 879 00:53:18,954 --> 00:53:21,184 He hates dialogue in the first place. 880 00:53:21,356 --> 00:53:26,350 He likes a sparsity of words. If you'll remember The Informer... 881 00:53:26,528 --> 00:53:29,554 ...I know that they had a long, highly dramatic scene... 882 00:53:29,731 --> 00:53:35,731 ...when the British officer paid off, Vic McLaglen as the informer. 883 00:53:36,371 --> 00:53:42,207 And, when he finished with the scene, it was a silent scene. 884 00:53:51,019 --> 00:53:53,783 Twenty pounds. You'd better count it. 885 00:53:53,955 --> 00:53:56,082 Show him out the back way. 886 00:54:04,132 --> 00:54:09,160 He always said, "If you don't need all that talk, throw it out". 887 00:54:09,337 --> 00:54:12,465 You know, too much talking. He'd throw a lot of lines out. 888 00:54:12,641 --> 00:54:14,905 The actors would get upset because they thought... 889 00:54:15,076 --> 00:54:17,704 ...the size of your part had a lot to do with dialogue. 890 00:54:17,879 --> 00:54:21,474 But it didn't make any difference. He threw all this dialogue out. 891 00:54:21,650 --> 00:54:25,347 Because if you could tell it with the camera... 892 00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,286 ...it was better than having to speak... 893 00:54:29,457 --> 00:54:31,357 ...you know, lines to explain the scene. 894 00:54:31,526 --> 00:54:34,017 What do you think of talk in pictures? 895 00:54:34,195 --> 00:54:37,961 Oh, it's necessary. I mean, people expect it now. 896 00:54:38,133 --> 00:54:40,897 It helps as long as the... 897 00:54:42,370 --> 00:54:46,932 As long as the dialogue is crisp, you know, and cryptic. 898 00:54:48,109 --> 00:54:51,704 And as long as they're not long soliloquies or... 899 00:54:52,380 --> 00:54:54,678 Oh, I like talking pictures. 900 00:54:54,849 --> 00:54:58,046 They're much easier to make than silent pictures. 901 00:54:59,621 --> 00:55:01,384 I mean... 902 00:55:01,856 --> 00:55:04,689 ...silent pictures were hard work. 903 00:55:05,660 --> 00:55:09,494 You know, they were very difficult, I mean, to get a point over. 904 00:55:09,664 --> 00:55:12,656 You had to move the camera around so much. 905 00:55:12,834 --> 00:55:18,170 A talking picture, I mean, just as you and I are talking... 906 00:55:18,340 --> 00:55:22,071 ...I mean, it gets over, I hope. 907 00:55:22,677 --> 00:55:24,838 Ask the sound man. 908 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,142 Yet still the most important aspect of your pictures... 909 00:55:28,316 --> 00:55:29,647 ...has always been the visual. 910 00:55:29,818 --> 00:55:31,513 Wouldn't you agree? 911 00:55:31,953 --> 00:55:32,977 Perhaps. 912 00:55:57,479 --> 00:55:59,071 Bugler... 913 00:55:59,914 --> 00:56:01,745 ...sound forward. 914 00:56:04,819 --> 00:56:08,118 Forward. 915 00:56:08,289 --> 00:56:14,228 Forward, ho! 916 00:56:24,339 --> 00:56:26,068 There was an interesting duality... 917 00:56:26,241 --> 00:56:29,404 ...in Ford's visual style during the '30s and '40s... 918 00:56:29,577 --> 00:56:32,740 ...varying between a kind of conscious pictorialism... 919 00:56:32,914 --> 00:56:35,382 ...and a more natural simplicity. 920 00:56:35,550 --> 00:56:38,986 By 1948, when he made this film, Fort Apache... 921 00:56:39,154 --> 00:56:42,646 ...these two elements had been memorably combined. 922 00:56:48,430 --> 00:56:53,458 Despite the undeniable artistry of his famous 1935 film The Informer... 923 00:56:53,635 --> 00:56:59,232 ...his style in it belongs nonetheless to a tradition of studio atmosphere. 924 00:58:21,222 --> 00:58:24,419 And it became increasingly clear in the '50s and '60s... 925 00:58:24,592 --> 00:58:28,528 ...that the style and manner closest to Ford's real nature... 926 00:58:28,696 --> 00:58:34,696 ...could be found in the seeming simplicity of a 1950 masterpiece like Rio Grande. 927 00:59:37,732 --> 00:59:42,533 Well, actually, he has the capacity for making those silent scenes. 928 00:59:42,704 --> 00:59:45,867 And one of the things that you must learn when working for him... 929 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,440 ...is to relax and look. 930 00:59:48,610 --> 00:59:52,706 On some occasions, you've naturally been given enough of the story... 931 00:59:52,881 --> 00:59:56,874 ...before and after, that you know about how the person is thinking. 932 00:59:57,051 --> 00:59:59,076 But it really doesn't matter. 933 00:59:59,254 --> 01:00:01,245 He plays a little soft music on the set. 934 01:00:01,422 --> 01:00:04,516 He has music off the side. They don't use that track. 935 01:00:04,692 --> 01:00:07,024 And, you just look... 936 01:00:07,195 --> 01:00:12,531 ...and the audience will put the thoughts that they wanna put in to that scene... 937 01:00:12,700 --> 01:00:15,692 ...and they'll give it the heart that the scene needs. 938 01:00:38,626 --> 01:00:40,651 I think it's this thing about Ford. 939 01:00:40,828 --> 01:00:44,958 He believed different things that pulled in different directions. 940 01:00:45,133 --> 01:00:48,068 And the tension between the ideas... 941 01:00:48,236 --> 01:00:51,933 ...and the expression of the ideas is so much of what makes him great. 942 01:00:52,106 --> 01:00:57,043 Ambiguity is the home of the artist, the great artist. 943 01:00:57,245 --> 01:00:59,577 And... 944 01:00:59,747 --> 01:01:01,874 ...Ford seemed rough-hewn... 945 01:01:02,050 --> 01:01:06,885 ...and a simple fellow, and he wasn't, and his films seem sometimes rough-hewn... 946 01:01:07,055 --> 01:01:10,286 ...and simple and straightforward, and they're not. 947 01:01:10,458 --> 01:01:12,255 They're very complicated. 948 01:01:12,527 --> 01:01:14,688 At the end of The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance... 949 01:01:14,862 --> 01:01:19,265 ...Ford's last great film, Jimmy Stewart has told the whole story... 950 01:01:19,434 --> 01:01:23,268 ...of who really shot Liberty Valance. 951 01:01:23,438 --> 01:01:29,001 And at the end of it, the newspaper reporter tears up the story. 952 01:01:34,415 --> 01:01:37,077 Well, you're not gonna use the story, Mr. Scott? 953 01:01:38,252 --> 01:01:39,981 No, sir. 954 01:01:43,791 --> 01:01:45,588 This is the West, sir. 955 01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:49,355 When the legend becomes fact, print the legend. 956 01:01:49,530 --> 01:01:51,725 He's right, Gramps. 957 01:02:00,508 --> 01:02:03,841 Now, this ending, which is similar to the ending of Fort Apache... 958 01:02:04,012 --> 01:02:09,814 ...in which John Wayne tells a cleaned-up version of the massacre... 959 01:02:09,984 --> 01:02:12,350 ...that Henry Fonda was responsible for... 960 01:02:12,754 --> 01:02:15,120 No man died more gallantly. 961 01:02:15,289 --> 01:02:17,280 Now, one more honor for his regiment. 962 01:02:17,458 --> 01:02:21,189 Of course you're all familiar with the famous painting of Thursday's charge, sir? 963 01:02:21,362 --> 01:02:23,125 Yes, I saw it when last in Washington. 964 01:02:23,297 --> 01:02:24,821 That was a magnificent work. 965 01:02:24,999 --> 01:02:27,058 There were these massed columns of Apaches... 966 01:02:27,235 --> 01:02:29,135 ...in their war paint and feather bonnets. 967 01:02:29,303 --> 01:02:32,067 And here was Thursday leading his men in that heroic charge. 968 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,105 Correct in every detail. 969 01:02:34,275 --> 01:02:36,038 He has become almost a legend already. 970 01:02:36,210 --> 01:02:38,110 He's a hero of every schoolboy in America. 971 01:02:38,279 --> 01:02:40,042 But what of the men who died with him? 972 01:02:40,214 --> 01:02:42,774 - What of Collingworth and...? - Collingwood. 973 01:02:42,950 --> 01:02:44,884 Oh, of course, Collingwood. 974 01:02:45,053 --> 01:02:46,384 That's the ironic part of it. 975 01:02:46,554 --> 01:02:49,887 We always remember the Thursdays, but the others are forgotten. 976 01:02:50,058 --> 01:02:51,616 You're wrong there. 977 01:02:51,793 --> 01:02:54,489 They aren't forgotten because they haven't died. 978 01:02:54,996 --> 01:02:59,865 They're living, right out there, Collingwood and the rest. 979 01:03:00,034 --> 01:03:03,435 They'll keep on living as long as the regiment lives. 980 01:03:03,604 --> 01:03:09,604 A lot of people have said that Ford agrees with the point "print the legend". 981 01:03:10,111 --> 01:03:15,174 But in fact, that isn't the point at all, because Ford has just told you the truth... 982 01:03:15,349 --> 01:03:21,117 ...in two films, vividly, showing that Henry Fonda was desperately wrong... 983 01:03:21,289 --> 01:03:24,690 ...and that Jimmy Stewart didn't kill Liberty Valance. 984 01:03:24,859 --> 01:03:28,989 So he's printed the truth, not the legend. 985 01:03:29,163 --> 01:03:32,030 And that's the point of the films, irony. 986 01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,397 That history is never necessarily correct. 987 01:03:35,570 --> 01:03:41,338 One time, I asked Ford, I said, "Well, do you think it's correct to print the legend"? 988 01:03:41,509 --> 01:03:46,446 And Ford typically said, "Yeah, because heroes are good for the country... 989 01:03:46,714 --> 01:03:49,012 - ... like Abe Lincoln". - How ambitious you are too. 990 01:03:49,183 --> 01:03:51,014 Ford is able to convey more deeply... 991 01:03:51,185 --> 01:03:54,018 ...what people are feeling by the way they behave... 992 01:03:54,188 --> 01:03:58,488 ...the looks that pass between them, than by what they say. 993 01:03:58,659 --> 01:04:02,561 In Young Mr. Lincoln, released in 1939... 994 01:04:02,730 --> 01:04:05,563 ...he employs music in a similar way... 995 01:04:05,733 --> 01:04:07,792 ...and composer Alfred Newman's theme... 996 01:04:07,969 --> 01:04:13,100 ...for Ann Rutledge, Lincoln's first love, becomes synonymous with her character. 997 01:04:13,274 --> 01:04:16,505 Just had my heart set on your going over to Jacksonville to college... 998 01:04:16,677 --> 01:04:20,306 ...when I go to the seminary there, and... 999 01:04:29,824 --> 01:04:31,257 You're mighty pretty, Ann. 1000 01:04:36,097 --> 01:04:39,624 Some folks I know don't like red hair. 1001 01:04:41,369 --> 01:04:43,166 I do. 1002 01:04:46,140 --> 01:04:48,199 Do you, Abe? 1003 01:04:49,143 --> 01:04:51,202 I love red hair. 1004 01:06:03,818 --> 01:06:05,979 Pretty, aren't they? 1005 01:06:06,153 --> 01:06:08,917 I got them at Bull and Green's place. 1006 01:06:09,090 --> 01:06:11,183 You never saw anything like them in your life. 1007 01:06:11,359 --> 01:06:15,352 Sitting there in the snow like scared rabbits. 1008 01:06:16,364 --> 01:06:19,060 Bet the woods are full of them too. 1009 01:06:22,570 --> 01:06:25,232 Snow's nice, isn't it? The way it's drifting. 1010 01:06:25,406 --> 01:06:27,670 Later in the movie, in Springfield... 1011 01:06:27,842 --> 01:06:30,504 ...Lincoln is with Mary Todd. 1012 01:07:05,780 --> 01:07:08,146 In The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance... 1013 01:07:08,316 --> 01:07:13,777 ...made in 1962, 23 years after Young Mr. Lincoln... 1014 01:07:13,954 --> 01:07:17,446 ...Hallie Stoddard comes back to visit the ruins of a ranch house... 1015 01:07:17,625 --> 01:07:20,890 ...that belonged to an old friend who has just died... 1016 01:07:21,062 --> 01:07:24,554 ...and to whose funeral she will soon go. 1017 01:07:24,732 --> 01:07:26,666 Note the music. 1018 01:07:31,605 --> 01:07:34,506 You knew where I wanted to go, didn't you? 1019 01:07:34,675 --> 01:07:39,112 Well, you said you wanted to see the cactus blossoms. 1020 01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:42,340 There's his house down there, what's left of it... 1021 01:07:42,516 --> 01:07:44,450 ...blossoms all around it. 1022 01:07:48,322 --> 01:07:52,952 He never did finish that room he started to build on, did he? 1023 01:07:53,661 --> 01:07:58,257 No. Oh, well, you know all about that. 1024 01:07:58,432 --> 01:08:01,026 Recognizing that Ann Rutledge music... 1025 01:08:01,202 --> 01:08:04,638 ...its effect in Liberty Valance becomes heightened. 1026 01:08:04,805 --> 01:08:07,000 Because as we come to know later in the film... 1027 01:08:07,174 --> 01:08:10,439 ...the ranch owner was the lost love of Hallie's youth... 1028 01:08:10,611 --> 01:08:13,136 ...just as Ann was for Lincoln. 1029 01:08:13,314 --> 01:08:17,717 John Ford told great stories but John Ford also, I think, did something... 1030 01:08:17,885 --> 01:08:20,353 ...that directors haven't done before or since. 1031 01:08:20,521 --> 01:08:22,580 Hawks might have done a little bit of it. 1032 01:08:22,757 --> 01:08:25,021 Raoul Walsh may have done a little bit of it also. 1033 01:08:25,192 --> 01:08:30,061 But that is, John Ford's movies were a collection of rituals... 1034 01:08:30,231 --> 01:08:35,931 ...whether they were, you know, American folklore rituals, they were Irish rituals... 1035 01:08:36,103 --> 01:08:40,437 ...whether they were rituals from the native American Lakota culture... 1036 01:08:40,608 --> 01:08:44,544 ...or rituals that he just read about in the untamed West... 1037 01:08:44,712 --> 01:08:46,339 ...there were all sorts of rituals. 1038 01:09:10,938 --> 01:09:13,771 Here he lies where he longed to be 1039 01:09:15,109 --> 01:09:20,411 Home is the sailor, home from the sea 1040 01:09:21,282 --> 01:09:24,115 And the hunter home from the hill 1041 01:09:31,559 --> 01:09:33,618 Is it all right, sir? 1042 01:09:34,829 --> 01:09:36,626 Sure. 1043 01:10:18,539 --> 01:10:21,531 - With Mrs. Yorke's permission. - Thank you. 1044 01:12:01,342 --> 01:12:03,401 It's what's in between the lines... 1045 01:12:03,577 --> 01:12:07,445 ...so often that makes Ford films Ford films. 1046 01:12:07,615 --> 01:12:13,281 Uh, you're familiar with... We all know how scripts are, you know, they dance. 1047 01:12:13,454 --> 01:12:14,944 You know, that's what it is. 1048 01:12:15,122 --> 01:12:19,559 And Ford, purposely, would go out... 1049 01:12:19,727 --> 01:12:24,164 ...and seize these moments, these director moments... 1050 01:12:24,331 --> 01:12:27,164 ...and because he understood that that was the essence... 1051 01:12:27,334 --> 01:12:31,361 ...of what separated motion pictures from other forms. 1052 01:12:38,178 --> 01:12:39,975 - Come on, Ma, let's dance. - Oh, come on. 1053 01:12:42,983 --> 01:12:45,383 Well, all right. 1054 01:12:49,323 --> 01:12:50,517 Stop, stop. 1055 01:13:29,930 --> 01:13:32,930 He seemed to have a compulsion not to talk... 1056 01:13:32,931 --> 01:13:35,930 ...about script or the part, character, picture. 1057 01:13:36,603 --> 01:13:40,972 If you came to his office, you were more apt to talk about fishing or politics... 1058 01:13:41,141 --> 01:13:43,109 ...or almost anything else. 1059 01:13:43,277 --> 01:13:44,608 If you asked him questions... 1060 01:13:44,778 --> 01:13:48,270 ...he would avoid answers about specific questions about the character. 1061 01:13:48,449 --> 01:13:49,643 He didn't seem to want to. 1062 01:13:49,817 --> 01:13:54,311 I think when he's working on a script to begin with... 1063 01:13:54,488 --> 01:13:58,982 ...he goes back in the life of each one of his characters... 1064 01:13:59,159 --> 01:14:01,684 ...and that's usually how he explains the character... 1065 01:14:01,862 --> 01:14:05,662 ...to the fellow that's gonna play it. He never tells him how to read a line. 1066 01:14:05,833 --> 01:14:07,824 He explains the background of the character. 1067 01:14:08,001 --> 01:14:10,265 So he has studied that character enough to know... 1068 01:14:10,437 --> 01:14:14,635 ...what his reaction would be in a certain type of situation. 1069 01:14:14,808 --> 01:14:17,572 And I said, "If you're gonna kiss her, for heaven's sakes... 1070 01:14:17,745 --> 01:14:20,009 ...I mean, you're supposed to be her lover. 1071 01:14:20,180 --> 01:14:23,047 I mean, clasp her in your arms and kiss her on the mouth... 1072 01:14:23,217 --> 01:14:24,912 ...and clasp her to your arms". 1073 01:14:25,085 --> 01:14:29,818 And he said, "Mr. Ford, she's playing my daughter". 1074 01:14:29,990 --> 01:14:32,652 "Oh, really? Let me read this damn thing". 1075 01:14:35,562 --> 01:14:38,793 He said, "Now, uh, you've read the script"? 1076 01:14:38,966 --> 01:14:40,900 I said, "Yes". 1077 01:14:41,068 --> 01:14:44,401 "Now, you're kind of lazy. Sit down". 1078 01:14:44,571 --> 01:14:49,372 I sat down. He said, "Now put your feet up and, lean back... 1079 01:14:49,543 --> 01:14:53,104 ...lean back, maybe put your hat down over your eyes". 1080 01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:54,304 And I did. 1081 01:14:54,481 --> 01:14:57,678 He said, "Well, is that the way you're gonna do it"? 1082 01:14:57,851 --> 01:14:59,614 And I said, "Well, I"... 1083 01:14:59,787 --> 01:15:04,383 He said, "All right, all right, let's, roll". 1084 01:15:04,558 --> 01:15:08,289 And it was just a set shot, doing nothing... 1085 01:15:08,462 --> 01:15:11,920 ...but in the middle of it, for some reason, I yawned... 1086 01:15:12,099 --> 01:15:16,433 ...a big enormous yawn, which, you know... 1087 01:15:16,603 --> 01:15:20,039 ...isn't the highest class of inventive acting, you know. 1088 01:15:20,207 --> 01:15:25,668 If you're a lazy fellow sitting in the sun, yawning isn't... 1089 01:15:25,846 --> 01:15:26,938 But I yawned. 1090 01:15:40,794 --> 01:15:42,022 And he said, "Right". 1091 01:15:42,196 --> 01:15:44,892 And that was the first time I'd ever heard him say "right"... 1092 01:15:45,065 --> 01:15:48,193 ...and, then we went to something else. 1093 01:15:48,535 --> 01:15:52,938 And two days later, when we were in a different location... 1094 01:15:53,106 --> 01:15:55,802 ...he came up and he said, "I like the yawn". 1095 01:15:55,976 --> 01:16:00,140 And I said, "Oh, oh, oh". 1096 01:16:00,314 --> 01:16:02,111 But it meant a great deal to me. 1097 01:16:02,282 --> 01:16:03,374 In Darling Clementine... 1098 01:16:03,550 --> 01:16:07,543 ...you remember when Henry Fonda is out on the porch there and he puts his feet up.. 1099 01:16:07,721 --> 01:16:10,713 ...and... and... 1100 01:16:11,158 --> 01:16:14,218 And he doesn't cut to close-ups. 1101 01:16:14,394 --> 01:16:17,454 He just stays in this big shot of this guy sitting there... 1102 01:16:17,631 --> 01:16:19,758 ...with his legs up on the post. 1103 01:16:19,933 --> 01:16:23,892 As we got ready to do it, Ford said, "Turn your chair a little bit". 1104 01:16:24,071 --> 01:16:25,971 So I did, and he said, "Lean back in it". 1105 01:16:26,139 --> 01:16:30,667 And there was a veranda post there, and he said, "Put your foot up on there". 1106 01:16:30,844 --> 01:16:33,813 So I put my foot up. He said, "Put your other foot up there". 1107 01:16:33,981 --> 01:16:36,973 So I put my other foot up there and leaning back. 1108 01:16:37,150 --> 01:16:40,517 He said, "Change the position". So I did like this. 1109 01:16:40,687 --> 01:16:42,746 And it became a little choreographed dance... 1110 01:16:42,923 --> 01:16:46,825 ...of pushing away, changing the position of my feet. 1111 01:16:46,994 --> 01:16:51,055 And it became a little moment that was not indicated until then... 1112 01:16:51,231 --> 01:16:54,496 ...that, everybody remembers and comments about. 1113 01:16:54,668 --> 01:16:57,831 And as for you, when Doc finds out you butted him last night... 1114 01:16:58,005 --> 01:17:00,838 ...he'll twist that tin badge around your heart. 1115 01:17:14,087 --> 01:17:16,715 It's typical, you don't know when he's thought of that... 1116 01:17:16,890 --> 01:17:19,882 ...whether it was at the moment or driving the hour and a half... 1117 01:17:20,060 --> 01:17:22,051 ...to the location in the morning. 1118 01:17:22,229 --> 01:17:25,426 He never gives you a clue until that moment. 1119 01:17:25,699 --> 01:17:30,932 He has a great, keen sense of when a thing is sentimental... 1120 01:17:31,104 --> 01:17:33,129 ...and when it is maudlin. 1121 01:17:33,307 --> 01:17:37,539 And, he's not afraid of those kind of scenes. 1122 01:17:37,711 --> 01:17:43,672 As a matter of fact, one of the things that he told me early in my career was: 1123 01:17:43,850 --> 01:17:48,480 "Duke, you're gonna get a lot of scenes during your life... 1124 01:17:48,655 --> 01:17:51,089 ...and they're gonna seem corny to you". 1125 01:17:51,258 --> 01:17:53,089 And he said, "Play them, play them to the hilt. 1126 01:17:53,260 --> 01:17:57,026 If it's east, then play it". And he says, "You'll get by with it. 1127 01:17:57,197 --> 01:17:58,926 But if you start trying to play it... 1128 01:17:59,099 --> 01:18:02,796 ...with your tongue in your cheek and getting cute... 1129 01:18:02,970 --> 01:18:06,929 ...you'll lose size yourself and the scene will be lost". 1130 01:18:11,111 --> 01:18:12,874 C Troop present and accounted for, sir. 1131 01:18:13,046 --> 01:18:14,604 Thank you, sir. 1132 01:18:18,218 --> 01:18:19,845 Men. 1133 01:18:21,154 --> 01:18:23,349 I won't be going out with you. 1134 01:18:25,158 --> 01:18:28,992 I won't be here when you return. 1135 01:18:29,796 --> 01:18:31,627 I wish I could. 1136 01:18:33,567 --> 01:18:39,567 But I know your performance under your new commander... 1137 01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:42,733 ...will make me proud of you. 1138 01:18:44,111 --> 01:18:48,411 As I have always been proud of you. 1139 01:18:48,582 --> 01:18:49,947 One moment, please, captain. 1140 01:18:50,117 --> 01:18:52,847 Corporal Krumrein, front and center. 1141 01:18:55,422 --> 01:18:59,051 Sir, a small token from the troop. 1142 01:18:59,826 --> 01:19:01,817 They all put in a hat for it, sir. 1143 01:19:01,995 --> 01:19:04,190 Even Sergeant Hochbauer. 1144 01:19:10,237 --> 01:19:11,431 It's solid silver, sir. 1145 01:19:11,605 --> 01:19:13,596 Brought on from Kansas City. 1146 01:19:13,774 --> 01:19:16,208 There's a sentiment on the back of it. 1147 01:19:33,260 --> 01:19:38,960 "To Captain Brittles from C Troop. 1148 01:19:44,304 --> 01:19:46,499 Lest we forget". 1149 01:19:55,148 --> 01:19:57,173 Thank you, corporal. 1150 01:19:57,984 --> 01:19:59,383 Thank you. 1151 01:20:00,587 --> 01:20:02,316 Thank all of you. 1152 01:20:09,696 --> 01:20:12,096 Take your troop, Mr. Pennell. 1153 01:20:12,265 --> 01:20:14,631 Proceed on your mission. 1154 01:20:16,002 --> 01:20:17,833 Good luck, C Troop! 1155 01:20:28,615 --> 01:20:31,516 Well, there he had a scene that could have been very maudlin... 1156 01:20:31,685 --> 01:20:34,415 ...and as a consequence, he had to put something in... 1157 01:20:34,588 --> 01:20:39,821 ...to not distract from the scene but give it a little humor and warmth. 1158 01:20:39,993 --> 01:20:43,451 And that is when he came up with the idea of those little square glasses... 1159 01:20:43,630 --> 01:20:47,225 ...and had the fellow look at all his troopers... 1160 01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:52,064 ...and turn and put on the glasses to read what the gold watch said. 1161 01:20:52,239 --> 01:20:56,335 And, it just added enough humor... 1162 01:20:56,510 --> 01:21:02,312 ...that it took the sting off of the sentiment in the scene. 1163 01:21:02,582 --> 01:21:05,244 There's a sense of no matter where that camera was placed... 1164 01:21:05,418 --> 01:21:07,909 ...it was the best position, the right position. 1165 01:21:08,088 --> 01:21:09,385 It was a position of poetry. 1166 01:21:10,590 --> 01:21:14,356 Just great storytelling. Just a great storyteller. 1167 01:21:14,528 --> 01:21:17,361 He sort of, to this day, you know... 1168 01:21:17,531 --> 01:21:20,989 ...is one of the most patriotic American directors... 1169 01:21:21,168 --> 01:21:23,932 ...who's ever, you know, graced the screen. 1170 01:21:24,437 --> 01:21:28,464 Ford has chronicled the story of the United States in no small detail... 1171 01:21:28,642 --> 01:21:34,080 ...ranging over 180 years, from before the Revolution into the 1950s. 1172 01:21:34,247 --> 01:21:39,378 And throughout his work, as in this funeral scene from 3 Bad Men... 1173 01:21:39,553 --> 01:21:45,553 ...the personal story is always shown in perspective with the flow of history behind. 1174 01:21:47,260 --> 01:21:50,024 1775, in the Mohawk Valley. 1175 01:21:50,197 --> 01:21:53,758 By thunder, I'll bet we can make the whole world the way we march. 1176 01:21:54,401 --> 01:21:58,064 Mistress Lana, Lana, here they come. 1177 01:21:58,238 --> 01:22:00,468 Come on out, here they come. 1178 01:22:05,478 --> 01:22:07,275 Welcome. 1179 01:22:09,482 --> 01:22:14,351 1845, toward the Western frontier. 1180 01:22:30,837 --> 01:22:34,170 1846, in Springfield, Illinois. 1181 01:22:34,341 --> 01:22:36,036 Ain't you going back, Abe? 1182 01:22:38,478 --> 01:22:41,675 No, I think I might go on a piece. 1183 01:22:43,116 --> 01:22:45,914 Maybe to the top of that hill. 1184 01:23:03,003 --> 01:23:06,200 1863, in the South. 1185 01:23:19,786 --> 01:23:23,244 Reverend, my boy, Johnny, he's all I've got left. 1186 01:23:23,423 --> 01:23:28,622 First, his father, then his uncle, his brothers, now him. 1187 01:23:28,795 --> 01:23:30,763 He's all I have left, Reverend. 1188 01:23:30,930 --> 01:23:34,161 I'm not gonna let him go. I'm not gonna let him go. 1189 01:23:34,334 --> 01:23:37,497 Cadet drummer Buford, you are relieved of duty. 1190 01:23:49,783 --> 01:23:54,083 April 15th, 1865, in Washington. 1191 01:23:55,188 --> 01:23:56,587 You know, friends... 1192 01:23:56,756 --> 01:24:00,214 ...$400,000 is a big heap pile of money... 1193 01:24:00,393 --> 01:24:02,122 ...to light a man's cigar with. 1194 01:24:22,282 --> 01:24:24,182 Mr. Lincoln has been shot. 1195 01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:50,068 The Indian Wars of the 1870s. 1196 01:25:24,210 --> 01:25:26,235 Recalcitrant swine, he must feel it. 1197 01:25:26,413 --> 01:25:28,176 He's only speaking the truth, sir. 1198 01:25:28,348 --> 01:25:31,283 Is there anyone in this regiment that understands an order? 1199 01:25:31,451 --> 01:25:33,976 - What does the colonel wish me to say? - I find him without honor. 1200 01:25:35,355 --> 01:25:37,721 They're talking to the United States government. 1201 01:25:39,259 --> 01:25:41,489 That government orders them to return to the reservation. 1202 01:25:42,962 --> 01:25:44,862 If they have not started by dawn, we will attack. 1203 01:25:46,232 --> 01:25:47,597 Tell him that. 1204 01:26:12,792 --> 01:26:14,919 You will come with me. 1205 01:26:15,094 --> 01:26:17,892 Hunt buffalo together. 1206 01:26:18,064 --> 01:26:21,591 Smoke many pipes. 1207 01:26:21,768 --> 01:26:25,135 We are too old for war. 1208 01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:29,931 Yes, we are too old for war. 1209 01:26:30,109 --> 01:26:32,634 But old men should stop wars. 1210 01:26:45,959 --> 01:26:48,052 Old friend... 1211 01:26:50,463 --> 01:26:52,761 Old friend... 1212 01:26:53,933 --> 01:26:55,992 ...what would you do? 1213 01:26:58,304 --> 01:27:01,865 1876, the great Dakota land rush. 1214 01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:25,525 October 1881, in Tombstone, Arizona. 1215 01:27:31,371 --> 01:27:32,736 Here they come, Pa. 1216 01:27:59,566 --> 01:28:02,535 The 1890s, along the Mississippi. 1217 01:28:14,314 --> 01:28:16,908 1917, over there. 1218 01:28:18,551 --> 01:28:20,542 Oliver! 1219 01:28:32,899 --> 01:28:36,858 1932, in Oklahoma. 1220 01:28:37,036 --> 01:28:38,867 I'm right here to tell you, mister... 1221 01:28:39,038 --> 01:28:41,302 ...there ain't nobody gonna push me off my land. 1222 01:28:41,474 --> 01:28:44,705 My grandpa took up this land 70 years ago. 1223 01:28:44,877 --> 01:28:48,005 My pa was born here. We was all born on it. 1224 01:28:48,181 --> 01:28:51,548 And some of us was killed on it. 1225 01:29:00,627 --> 01:29:04,222 And some of us died on it. 1226 01:29:04,998 --> 01:29:07,159 And that's what makes it our'n... 1227 01:29:07,333 --> 01:29:13,329 ...being born on it and working on it... 1228 01:29:13,506 --> 01:29:16,669 ...and dying. Dying on it. 1229 01:29:16,843 --> 01:29:20,540 And not no piece of paper with writing on it. 1230 01:29:31,624 --> 01:29:35,993 1942, in the Philippines. 1231 01:30:20,873 --> 01:30:22,932 Pretty rugged, isn't it? 1232 01:30:24,911 --> 01:30:26,845 Let's go, Rusty. 1233 01:31:00,079 --> 01:31:03,014 The inevitability of history moving forward... 1234 01:31:03,182 --> 01:31:06,447 ...quite often, the victim is the family. 1235 01:31:06,619 --> 01:31:08,211 The tragedy is the family. 1236 01:31:08,387 --> 01:31:11,447 His family life was terrible. 1237 01:31:11,858 --> 01:31:15,350 And yet it was marvelous in the movies, the way he filmed it... 1238 01:31:15,528 --> 01:31:20,795 ...and the warmth and the togetherness and the love you felt... 1239 01:31:20,967 --> 01:31:24,994 ...and the whole family unit with Donald Crisp... 1240 01:31:25,171 --> 01:31:29,107 It didn't happen in his own home. 1241 01:31:29,275 --> 01:31:31,334 Maybe his own family life was bad... 1242 01:31:31,511 --> 01:31:36,471 ...but he always dreamed of having a more idyllic family life or a closer family... 1243 01:31:36,649 --> 01:31:40,779 ...uh, as some of the old-world Irish families were... 1244 01:31:40,953 --> 01:31:45,720 ...and, uh, I suppose, maybe like to try to place himself... 1245 01:31:45,892 --> 01:31:48,360 ...using film to place himself in that. 1246 01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:32,030 We see Ford holding on to the very last of the family of the 19th century almost. 1247 01:32:32,205 --> 01:32:35,299 The way my parents were holding on but couldn't hold on anymore. 1248 01:32:35,842 --> 01:32:37,742 - Leave the table. - I will leave the house. 1249 01:32:37,910 --> 01:32:41,141 - Will, tell your father you're sorry. - I'm not sorry. 1250 01:32:42,381 --> 01:32:45,578 I'm with you. We can find lodgings in the village. 1251 01:32:45,751 --> 01:32:47,616 Gwilym. 1252 01:32:53,726 --> 01:32:55,660 All of you, then? 1253 01:33:00,366 --> 01:33:02,561 For the last time, sit down, finish your supper. 1254 01:33:02,735 --> 01:33:03,759 I will say no more. 1255 01:33:04,170 --> 01:33:07,037 We are not questioning your authority, sir. 1256 01:33:07,206 --> 01:33:09,697 But if manners prevent our speaking the truth... 1257 01:33:09,876 --> 01:33:12,174 ...we will be without manners. 1258 01:33:13,279 --> 01:33:15,509 Get your clothes and go. 1259 01:33:31,030 --> 01:33:32,861 I'm going with them to look after them. 1260 01:33:33,032 --> 01:33:35,296 Hold your tongue, girl. Get on with your dishes. 1261 01:33:57,590 --> 01:33:59,319 Yes, my son. 1262 01:33:59,492 --> 01:34:01,722 I know you are there. 1263 01:34:04,430 --> 01:34:08,457 I found myself being very drawn in by the characters... 1264 01:34:08,634 --> 01:34:13,162 ...but primarily by the sense of warmth that he had. 1265 01:34:13,339 --> 01:34:15,307 The sense of his love of humanity. 1266 01:34:15,474 --> 01:34:20,343 The sense of the importance and the structure within the family unit. 1267 01:34:20,513 --> 01:34:23,914 Family is the protection against the world. He understands that. 1268 01:34:24,083 --> 01:34:28,076 It's the thing that we have to lean on. 1269 01:34:28,254 --> 01:34:31,587 And when the family is destroyed... 1270 01:34:32,158 --> 01:34:36,458 ...by what seems to be progress and what is inevitable... 1271 01:34:36,629 --> 01:34:40,622 ...this inspires some of his greatest poetry. 1272 01:34:42,335 --> 01:34:44,235 Give me your hand, Ma. 1273 01:34:46,872 --> 01:34:50,638 - Goodbye. - Goodbye, Tommy. 1274 01:34:50,810 --> 01:34:56,112 Later, when this has blowed over, you'll come back? 1275 01:34:56,282 --> 01:34:58,273 Sure, Ma. 1276 01:34:59,552 --> 01:35:03,488 Tom, we ain't the kissing kind, but... 1277 01:35:10,863 --> 01:35:12,797 Goodbye, Ma. 1278 01:35:13,432 --> 01:35:15,525 Goodbye, Tommy. 1279 01:35:23,743 --> 01:35:25,734 Tommy. 1280 01:35:57,176 --> 01:36:00,543 In 1936, John Ford made a movie with Katharine Hepburn, Mary of Scotland. 1281 01:36:00,713 --> 01:36:02,544 Not his best film, not her best film... 1282 01:36:02,715 --> 01:36:05,650 ...but the two of them seemed to have fallen in love. 1283 01:36:05,818 --> 01:36:10,585 Ford had never had anybody stand up to him the way Hepburn stood up to him... 1284 01:36:10,756 --> 01:36:12,246 ...and he liked it. 1285 01:36:12,425 --> 01:36:15,189 He was a married Irish Catholic with two children... 1286 01:36:15,361 --> 01:36:20,594 ...but for a period of time, they had some kind of intimate relationship. 1287 01:36:20,766 --> 01:36:22,666 And the result of that was that he made... 1288 01:36:22,835 --> 01:36:25,861 ...probably the best series of films in his career. 1289 01:36:26,038 --> 01:36:29,235 In a short, three-year period between 1939 and 1941... 1290 01:36:29,408 --> 01:36:33,708 ...when he went into the Navy and she fell in love with Spencer Tracy... 1291 01:36:33,879 --> 01:36:35,005 ...John Ford directed: 1292 01:36:35,181 --> 01:36:38,014 Stagecoach, Young Mr. Lincoln... 1293 01:36:38,184 --> 01:36:42,086 ...Drums Along The Mohawk, The Long Voyage Home... 1294 01:36:42,254 --> 01:36:45,712 ...The Grapes of Wrath, for which he won the Oscar for Best Director... 1295 01:36:45,891 --> 01:36:50,055 ...as he did again the following year for How Green Was My Valley... 1296 01:36:50,229 --> 01:36:53,096 ...which also won Best Picture. 1297 01:36:53,265 --> 01:36:56,860 It's hard to believe he just did those in such a close proximity. 1298 01:36:57,036 --> 01:37:00,164 You know, of '39, '40, '41. 1299 01:37:00,339 --> 01:37:01,931 And they were just fabulous films. 1300 01:37:02,108 --> 01:37:07,068 And, I think everybody, who grew up in that generation... 1301 01:37:07,246 --> 01:37:09,180 ...was influenced forever by him. 1302 01:37:09,348 --> 01:37:12,613 In 1973, the year Ford died... 1303 01:37:12,785 --> 01:37:15,652 ...his grandson, Dan Ford, who was writing a book about him... 1304 01:37:15,821 --> 01:37:17,982 ...brought Katharine Hepburn to see him. 1305 01:37:18,157 --> 01:37:21,359 And the two shared a long conversation... 1306 01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:24,562 ...which was taped in his bedroom... 1307 01:37:24,730 --> 01:37:27,824 ...and during the course of it, she said... 1308 01:37:28,000 --> 01:37:30,298 I think we had fundamental respect for each other. 1309 01:37:31,670 --> 01:37:34,605 And I think that is the most lasting quality in the world. 1310 01:37:34,773 --> 01:37:37,298 That and the fact that you beat the hell out of me at golf. 1311 01:37:39,278 --> 01:37:42,975 Do you remember when you called me up, to do it... 1312 01:37:43,149 --> 01:37:47,210 ...I said, "I am probably the worst choice in the world for Mary of Scotland". 1313 01:37:47,386 --> 01:37:51,846 And you said, "Well, you are no worse a choice for Mary of Scotland... 1314 01:37:52,024 --> 01:37:56,791 ...than I am as the director of Mary of Scotland". 1315 01:37:56,962 --> 01:37:59,294 - Those are the nag jokes there. - That's very good. 1316 01:37:59,465 --> 01:38:01,490 - Trying to tape me? - Yeah, it's on. 1317 01:38:01,667 --> 01:38:07,128 After they finished recording, Dan Ford went out to get something at the car... 1318 01:38:07,306 --> 01:38:11,174 ...and inadvertently, he left the tape machine running. 1319 01:38:11,343 --> 01:38:15,006 Ford and Hepburn were recorded unbeknownst to them... 1320 01:38:15,181 --> 01:38:16,375 ...until the tape ran out. 1321 01:38:16,549 --> 01:38:20,178 You're dropping ashes all over the place here. 1322 01:38:20,352 --> 01:38:22,479 Take a snooze, and I'll come by in the morning. 1323 01:38:22,655 --> 01:38:24,680 - Okay. - Okay. 1324 01:38:24,857 --> 01:38:26,688 I love you. 1325 01:38:26,859 --> 01:38:28,383 It's mutual. 1326 01:38:28,561 --> 01:38:30,085 Thank you. 1327 01:38:30,262 --> 01:38:32,492 - It's thrilling to see you. - Oh, good. 1328 01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:36,300 That's better. 1329 01:38:37,603 --> 01:38:41,471 - Okay, I'll be down in an hour. - Well, anyway, Kate... 1330 01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:44,632 - Anybody listening? - No. 1331 01:38:44,810 --> 01:38:47,404 Do you have woman's intuition? 1332 01:38:49,114 --> 01:38:51,878 Yes. 1333 01:38:53,586 --> 01:38:57,784 For the only passionate love story he ever made, The Quiet Man... 1334 01:38:57,957 --> 01:39:01,620 ...a very personal film he spent 30 years trying to make... 1335 01:39:01,794 --> 01:39:05,787 ...Wayne's character is named Sean, Ford's real first name... 1336 01:39:05,965 --> 01:39:08,195 ...and Maureen O'Hara's character is named... 1337 01:39:08,367 --> 01:39:11,131 ...after the two women Ford most loved in his life... 1338 01:39:11,303 --> 01:39:15,831 ...Mary McBride Smith, his wife, and Kate Hepburn. 1339 01:39:16,809 --> 01:39:19,869 Hello, Mary Kate Danaher. 1340 01:39:20,779 --> 01:39:24,306 Good morning, Sean Thornton. 1341 01:39:28,721 --> 01:39:33,283 "How do you describe someone you really admired and loved... 1342 01:39:33,459 --> 01:39:37,520 ...and yet he had so many aggravating traits? 1343 01:39:37,930 --> 01:39:40,023 He was an instinctive con man. 1344 01:39:40,199 --> 01:39:43,691 It was impossible to know when to believe him or when to disbelieve him. 1345 01:39:43,869 --> 01:39:46,633 Everything he said or did was for effect. 1346 01:39:46,805 --> 01:39:49,273 That is why he was so difficult to interview. 1347 01:39:49,441 --> 01:39:53,673 He would deliberately say the opposite of what he knew you wanted to hear. 1348 01:39:54,179 --> 01:39:57,740 He could be kind, gracious and gentle... 1349 01:39:57,916 --> 01:40:01,232 ...with a wonderful sense of humor, 1350 01:40:01,233 --> 01:40:04,549 ...but he could also be vindictive and mean. 1351 01:40:04,723 --> 01:40:10,252 All one can do with John Ford is accept him with all of his faults and virtues... 1352 01:40:10,429 --> 01:40:12,420 ...and love him". 1353 01:40:23,342 --> 01:40:27,142 You know, you value the guy that staked it out first. 1354 01:40:27,313 --> 01:40:33,309 He got there first, he figured it out, and he did it better. 1355 01:40:33,485 --> 01:40:35,578 One of the things that sets John Ford apart... 1356 01:40:35,754 --> 01:40:37,949 ...from virtually any other American director... 1357 01:40:38,123 --> 01:40:41,820 ...is his sense of spirituality... 1358 01:40:41,994 --> 01:40:44,861 ...his sense that death is not the end. 1359 01:40:45,531 --> 01:40:46,998 And you can see this conveyed... 1360 01:40:47,166 --> 01:40:49,600 ...in scenes, as in Young Mr. Lincoln... 1361 01:40:49,768 --> 01:40:53,431 ...where the lead character speaks to the spirit of one who's died. 1362 01:40:55,107 --> 01:40:57,871 1864. 1363 01:40:58,043 --> 01:41:00,273 1882. 1364 01:41:01,847 --> 01:41:04,008 Eighteen years. 1365 01:41:06,518 --> 01:41:09,282 Didn't get much of a chance, did you, James? 1366 01:41:18,764 --> 01:41:22,245 It's been a long time, honey, 1367 01:41:22,246 --> 01:41:25,727 ...since you and the baby... 1368 01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:29,705 ...went away. 1369 01:41:32,211 --> 01:41:35,977 Oh, Jerome come home tonight. 1370 01:41:39,885 --> 01:41:43,946 Little Robert E. Would have been... 1371 01:41:45,624 --> 01:41:51,256 He would have been just the same age as Jerome is now. 1372 01:41:56,101 --> 01:41:57,693 Well, Mary... 1373 01:41:58,470 --> 01:42:01,496 ...only six more days to go... 1374 01:42:02,307 --> 01:42:05,936 ...and your old Nathan will be out of the Army. 1375 01:42:06,845 --> 01:42:11,646 Haven't decided what I'll do yet. 1376 01:42:11,817 --> 01:42:14,581 Somehow, I just can't picture myself... 1377 01:42:14,753 --> 01:42:20,658 ...back there on the banks of the Wabash, rocking in the front porch. 1378 01:42:21,026 --> 01:42:26,965 No, I've been thinking I'd maybe push on west. 1379 01:42:27,332 --> 01:42:29,823 And it's most movingly conveyed... 1380 01:42:30,002 --> 01:42:31,993 ...in the final, extraordinary sequence... 1381 01:42:32,404 --> 01:42:33,871 ...from How Green Was My Valley. 1382 01:42:34,039 --> 01:42:37,566 Wait. Mr. Gruffydd! 1383 01:42:44,149 --> 01:42:47,050 The good old handiwork. 1384 01:42:55,894 --> 01:42:58,454 He came to me just now. 1385 01:42:59,031 --> 01:43:01,795 Ivor was with him. 1386 01:43:02,601 --> 01:43:08,540 He spoke to me and told me of the glory he had seen. 1387 01:43:23,355 --> 01:43:24,720 Look. 1388 01:44:15,240 --> 01:44:18,437 Men like my father cannot die. 1389 01:44:18,610 --> 01:44:23,707 They are with me still, real in memory as in they were in flesh. 1390 01:44:23,882 --> 01:44:26,646 Loving and beloved forever. 1391 01:44:26,818 --> 01:44:28,786 How green was my valley then. 1392 01:45:05,657 --> 01:45:09,957 Every John Ford movie is filled with reverberations from another... 1393 01:45:10,128 --> 01:45:12,926 ...which makes his use of the same players year after year... 1394 01:45:13,098 --> 01:45:16,261 ...so much more than just using a stock company. 1395 01:45:16,435 --> 01:45:21,202 And no picture of his should really be looked at as separate from the rest. 1396 01:45:21,373 --> 01:45:26,401 They stand together as one man's vision of the world... 1397 01:45:26,578 --> 01:45:28,671 ...and of the past. 1398 01:45:38,624 --> 01:45:41,889 Frank Skeffington is leaving his campaign headquarters right now. 1399 01:45:42,060 --> 01:45:43,084 Let's go. 1400 01:45:43,261 --> 01:45:44,956 With him are his loyal supporters. 1401 01:45:45,130 --> 01:45:47,462 Those who fought alongside of him in this campaign. 1402 01:45:47,633 --> 01:45:50,864 There's an air of defeat here, but it was not shared by the candidate. 1403 01:45:51,036 --> 01:45:53,169 There's only one way to describe him, 1404 01:45:53,170 --> 01:45:55,302 ...and that is that he was victorious in defeat. 1405 01:45:55,474 --> 01:45:58,307 I'm sorry the show didn't have a happier ending. 1406 01:45:58,477 --> 01:46:00,604 Maybe I can do better next time, lad. 1407 01:46:00,779 --> 01:46:04,146 - Good night. - Good night, Uncle Frank. 1408 01:46:06,385 --> 01:46:08,876 Victorious in defeat. 1409 01:46:09,054 --> 01:46:12,251 John Ford's history is filled with defeats... 1410 01:46:12,424 --> 01:46:15,484 ...failures, last stands... 1411 01:46:15,661 --> 01:46:18,789 ...their tragedy also their peculiar glory. 1412 01:46:18,964 --> 01:46:23,628 Finally, it's not the concentration on Americana that gives unity to his work... 1413 01:46:23,802 --> 01:46:29,331 ...but rather this singular poetic vision, with which he sees all life... 1414 01:46:29,508 --> 01:46:33,877 ...and through which he has created his own particular world. 1415 01:46:34,046 --> 01:46:38,380 And his hero has most often been a man alone... 1416 01:46:38,550 --> 01:46:41,951 ...silhouetted against the moving background of history... 1417 01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:48,120 ...whether played by Henry Fonda or Jimmy Stewart or Spencer Tracy. 1418 01:46:48,794 --> 01:46:53,925 From Harry Carey to John Wayne, the same. 1419 01:46:54,099 --> 01:47:00,099 And one of Harry Carey's, uh, stances was grabbing his elbow and looking off... 1420 01:47:00,505 --> 01:47:03,497 ...and he always seemed like such a lonely character to me. 1421 01:49:59,918 --> 01:50:01,909 ENGLISH SDH 121389

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