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♪♪
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-♪ Hey, everybody,
have you heard the news? ♪
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♪ Joe Bob is back in town ♪
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♪ He's over at the drive-in
hanging around ♪
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♪ Watching crazy movies,
so come on down ♪
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♪ To Joe Bob's "Last Drive-in"
show ♪
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♪ Blood, beasties, boobies,
and more ♪
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♪ Joe Bob's "Last Drive-In"
show ♪
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♪ It's a spooky good time
with monsters and ghosts ♪
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♪ Crazy kooky fun
with the world's greatest host ♪
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♪ Yeah, Joe Bob's
"Last Drive-In" show ♪
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♪ It's gonna be legendary ♪
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♪ Joe Bob's "Last Drive-In"
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♪ It's gonna be very scary ♪
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♪ Joe Bob's "Last Drive-In"
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♪ Let's go ♪
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♪♪
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-Whoo!
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If I'd known there was gonna be
an apocalypse,
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I would've brought more beer.
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[Horse whinnies]
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[Horse hooves clopping]
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♪♪
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♪♪
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-Hey, I'm Joe Bob Briggs,
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and this is gonna be
interesting tonight.
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This is a special AMC+ edition
of "The Last Drive-In",
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which normally appears Friday
nights on Shudder,
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but we begged em to let us have
"The Walking Dead" on our show,
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which is now about 8 episodes
into its final season,
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and so we moved over here to
the big-boy chairs
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for one night only,
and we're kinda having
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double Halloween this year,
right, Darcy?
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-Oh, yeah. You can never
have enough Halloween.
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-And apparently you can't have
enough "Walking Dead",
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'cause I think they're currently
shooting the 917th episode
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in that little Georgia town
that's sort of become
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a "Walking Dead" theme park.
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What's the name of that town
in Georgia?
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-Senoia?
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-Senoia, Georgia.
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Better known as Woodbury.
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Better known as Terminus
in seasons 4 and 5.
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Better known as Alexandria,
Virginia,
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in seasons 5 through 10.
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You can go there
and get a zombie burger
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and visit famous locations where
beloved characters have died.
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[Laughs] Right?
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Because one thing we know about
"The Walking Dead"
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is if you're an actor,
eventually
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the assistant director
is gonna tug on
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your sleeve and say,
"Uh, would you mind stopping
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by the production office
this morning for a meeting
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with the director and the entire
special makeup effects crew?"
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'Cause it's a heartache show!
It's a show about heartache!
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-So...
-With some of
the best kills ever.
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And we have the creators of
those kills with us tonight.
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But I should introduce you,
for people coming to the show
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for the first time --
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Darcy the Mail Girl,
ladies and gentlemen!
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But because of the nature of
this show, we have no mail!
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-So.
-I have mail.
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Even though we've never done
this before?
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Where'd -- Where'd you get mail?
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-I got mail.
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-OK, well, we have other plans
for you tonight, anyway,
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so once I introduce our
two special guests you'll see.
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-Should I be scared?
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-You should be very scared, yes.
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But since we're celebrating
the last season
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of "The Walking Dead",
I wanted to give
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a little background about
how these zombies --
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the million and a half zombies
that have actually appeared
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on the show,
"The Walking Dead" --
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how and where these zombies
originated.
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So, Austin,
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do you have my Zombie Timeline
and World Atlas
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readily available?
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-It's never
too far away.
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-Alright. OK.
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The first time in history
that we hear about zombies
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is in the 1600s in Angola,
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the country on the west coast of
Africa that was overrun
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by the Portuguese.
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And the word "zombie" just means
somebody who had their soul
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captured by somebody else.
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Like when you say, "I can't
hardly talk to Willie Mae
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anymore 'cause since she got
with Jimbo Withers,
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'cause he done captured
her soul."
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So this was a fear of
the native population of Angola,
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that because all these
Portuguese colonists
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that had disrupted the society
there,
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the neighboring tribe
witch doctor would come over
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and capture their souls.
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But, "zombie" is actually
a French word,
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and that's because the first
time it was written down
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was in 1697 on the island
of Martinique,
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which is a big ol' island
in the Caribbean
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that's owned by France,
and in 1697,
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some French degenerate
playwright wrote a sex farce
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and -- where the people in
the play talked about zombies.
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Now, this was obviously brought
over from Africa because,
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you know, slavery in
the Caribbean
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was just everywhere,
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but once again,
they talked about it
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like it was something that got
done to you by another person.
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And we know this because
Lafcadio Hearn --
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[Laughter]
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this will be the second time
this year
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that I've talked about
Lafcadio Hearn,
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mainly because I just like
saying the name
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Lafcadio Hearn.
So, Lafcadio Hearn,
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the Greek-Irish journalist --
he was actually from
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some little, uh, strange island
in Greece.
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He had myopia, even though he
was a journalist, but he --
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and he worked in New Orleans
most of his career
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even though he started in
Cincinnati, um,
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before becoming -- he became
a Japanese citizen, actually,
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eventually.
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Would you like me to say
that again?
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No, I will not.
Anyway, Lafcadio Hearn
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spent two years in Martinique
in the 1880s --
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we're back in the Caribbean --
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so, Martinique --
and much of that time,
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he was studying zombie folklore.
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And this is the first time
the world ever heard
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about dead people walking,
because Lafcadio Hearn wrote
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in English, like God intended.
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All the previous stuff was
written in other languages.
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So. But we all know where
the zombies end up, right?
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We know this
from Wes Craven, right?
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It's those voodoo Creoles
in Haiti.
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Now, how do we know this?
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We know this because of
William Seabrook,
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who was son of a preacher.
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This is Haiti. It's, like,
up the road from Martinique.
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William Seabrook,
who was son of a preacher
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and an Atlanta journalist,
got gassed in World War I,
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and he was never quite the same
after he got gassed.
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So he started billing himself as
The White Adventurer,
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and he wrote books about living
with the Bedouin in Iraq,
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and he wrote books about Jordan,
and he hung out
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with all the leading luminaries
of the day
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like Hemingway
and Sinclair Lewis.
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And he wrote a book called
"The Magic Island" in 1928
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that is all about Haiti.
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And in that book he goes into
voodoo ritual,
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and he has a chapter called
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"Dead Men Working
in Cane Fields",
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and he describes
these three zombies that he met.
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They had dead eyes,
they were staring and unfocused,
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and they never talked,
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and they were used
for slave labor.
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And so William Seabrook goes
around and investigates
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and he decides that what's going
on is that the voodoo priests
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in Haiti are giving
a secret drug to people
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to put them
into suspended animation.
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So they're not alive
and they're not dead,
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they're just existing.
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So "The Magic Island" book
is what caused
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all this intense interest
in zombies.
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But zombies were always in
pulp fiction, though.
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They weren't in regular
newspapers.
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They were in stories
in magazines
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like Weird Tales
and Thrilling Mysteries.
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And eventually,
"The Magic Island" inspired
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the movie "White Zombie"
in 1932,
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Which was a cheapie
that they filmed in 11 days
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in what was then known as
Poverty Row.
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Now, has anybody seen
"White Zombie"?
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You know, it's the first
zombie movie.
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Seems like it would be on
everybody's list.
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Darcy?
Have you seen "White Zombie"?
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-Yeah, it's --
it's a little slow.
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-It is kinda slow.
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It had Bela Lugosi in it.
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Lugosi is the zombie master,
and his victim is Madge Bellamy.
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Do you know who that is?
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-I don't think so.
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-Madge Bellamy had been
a pretty big silent star.
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She starred in a colossal hit,
"Lorna Doone",
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but she was a diva,
and so when sound came in,
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nobody really wanted to
work with her anymore,
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so here she was making
this cheapie that was shot
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using rented sets
from famous movies.
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They mostly shot it
on the Universal lot.
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And, in fact, the whole cast
is faded silent film actors.
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The most famous one
was Joseph Cawthorn
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as the missionary who saves
Madge Bellamy from Bela Lugosi.
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So anyway, "White Zombie"
got horrible reviews,
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but it made back 20 times
its budget
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for the Halperin brothers,
Victor and Edward Halperin,
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two producers
nobody had ever heard of.
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And really, if you look at the
whole history of zombies
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in the movies, they're always
B movies,
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from the beginning
right through to now.
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So here's my point.
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"White Zombie" is the first time
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most people have heard of
zombies.
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The word "zombie" wasn't even in
the dictionary until 1935,
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and the idea is that every
zombie has to have
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a zombie master who puts them
into the zombie state
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to begin with,
and zombies are created by
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these evil witch doctors.
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Or by Don the Beachcomber.
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Do you know who
Don the Beachcomber is?
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He invented the cocktail called
the Zombie
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right after "White Zombie"
came out.
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And Don the Beachcomber's recipe
for the Zombie was different
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than what they use later--
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-Uh, I don't think we need
the recipe for a Zombie.
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-Oh, yeah, I forgot,
we're on AMC now,
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and we gotta keep this relevant.
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-Little too late
for that.
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-Darcy, this is history,
have a little respect.
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So "White Zombie" comes out
and the producers make
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a lot of money, and they get
sued by a guy named Kenneth Webb
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who had written a play called
"Zombie"
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that came out before
"White Zombie."
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It ran for 21 performances at
the Biltmore Theater on Broadway
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in February of 1932.
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But really, everybody was
getting their zombie ideas
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from the same place, and that
place was "The Magic Island"
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by William Seabrook, and he was
not available to consult
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on these projects because he was
a raging alcoholic
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who was traveling all
over the world
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trying to get somebody to cook
human flesh for him.
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He was an aspiring cannibal.
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-Oh, my God,
you're making that up.
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-No. The guy who popularized
zombies went to Africa,
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and found somebody who said
they were willing to serve him
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human flesh, and then got
furious because he found out
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it was not human flesh at all --
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it was plain old gorilla flesh.
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-Oh, my God, this is awful.
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-And, yeah -- I mean -- very --
Well, very disturbing to vegans
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like yourself, Darcy,
but I'm sure.
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So Seabrook goes to a hospital
in Paris,
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and he bribes somebody --
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Paris is here.
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He bribes somebody into giving
him some flesh
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from the morgue --
recently deceased flesh.
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And he takes it to a friend's
house, and he asks the friend
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to use the kitchen,
and he tells him --
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he tells him it's goat meat.
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And so his friend was a chef,
and he agreed to cook the meat
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for him, and he agreed to
cook it three ways --
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as a roast, broiled,
and in a ragout.
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And what is a ragout?
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-Something awful.
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-Yeah, well, actually, no,
I think that's the one
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you would choose, Darcy,
because it has vegetables
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mixed in.
It's like a stew.
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So, he puts the meat in with--
-Oh, yeah,
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that definitely makes it OK.
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-OK. So Seabrook eats
everything, and he takes notes
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on what he's eating, and he says
it tastes like --
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you wanna guess what he said
it tastes like?
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-Chicken?
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-Yeah, that woulda been
my guess, too,
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because that's what everyone
says, you know,
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when they eat
anything disgusting.
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But no, he said it tasted like,
quote,
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"good fully-developed veal."
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Why are we talking about this?
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Well, we're talking about this
because the guy
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who originally introduced
zombies to the world
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was apparently interested in
eating human flesh,
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which may explain
why the narrative
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gets a little weird
at this point.
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So, at any rate, because of
the various legal difficulties
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and lawsuits,
the Halperin brothers needed
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4 years before they could
put out the sequel
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to "White Zombie", called
"Revolt of the Zombies",
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and this time, they get sued,
again,
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by their original investors,
who claim they own
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the word "zombie."
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And a judge agrees with them,
and so they have to pay damages.
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And so that ends the whole
zombie cycle for the '30s.
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So for the next 30 years,
every cheap zombie movie
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has some kind of mad scientist
or voodoo doctor
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who puts people into
zombie trances
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for his nefarious ends,
you know,
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often so that he can enslave
a beautiful woman.
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"The Ghost Breakers",
"King of the Zombies",
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"Zombies on Broadway"
with Bela Lugosi.
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"Voodoo Man", with Bela Lugosi
as a witch doctor.
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"Revenge of the Zombies"
with John Carradine
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as the mad, zombie-creating
scientist.
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"Zombies of Mora Tau."
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"Teenage Zombies" -- you know,
that one actually combined
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zombies and sci-fi.
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The only good one during
this period
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was "I Walked with a Zombie"
in 1943,
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directed by Jacques Tourneur,
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one of those films that's always
called "atmospheric", you know.
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When it kinda drags in
the middle
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but has a lot of misty vistas
and stuff, they call it
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"atmospheric".
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But it was still all about
voodoo spells
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in the Caribbean.
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OK, did you follow this
so far, Darcy?
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-Yeah, on it.
-Alright.
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Then, on one day,
October the 1st, 1968,
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everything changes
with a single movie
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that never uses the word
"zombie" at all.
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I speak, of course,
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of "Night of the Living Dead."
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For the first time, we have what
the world today calls a zombie.
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There's no longer
any voodoo priest.
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There's no longer
any pharmaceuticals involved.
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The zombies rise up out
of their graves,
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and they're hungry,
and they're aggressive.
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So, George Romero
changed all the rules,
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and those rules still apply
today, to wit, as follows.
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Numero Uno -- the zombies are
human bodies that have come back
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from death
as unthinking animals.
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Numero Two-o --
they need living human flesh
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to continue to move around.
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Numero Three-o --
they're aggressive and violent.
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Numero Four-o -- you have to
destroy their brains to kill em.
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And Numero Five-o -- nobody
knows what reanimated them
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or where they came from or
how many of them there are.
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Now, that last rule may be the
most important principle of all,
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because all later zombie writers
directors were able to make up
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origin stories for their undead.
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So, every zombie movie since
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has been some version of
the George Romero zombie.
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Probably the best of those
were the "Evil Dead" trilogy
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of Sam Raimi, Dan O'Bannon's
"Return of the Living Dead",
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written by Romero's collaborator
John Russo,
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"28 Days Later" which introduced
the fast-moving, angry zombie,
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and then "Train to Busan"
which perfected
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the fast-moving angry zombie.
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The only zombie movie after 1968
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that went back to
the voodoo origins
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was Wes Craven's
"The Serpent and the Rainbow,"
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based on the book by a Harvard
anthropologist named Wade Davis,
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who really did spend two years
in Haiti studying zombie-ism
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but did not get his scrotum
nailed to a chair --
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that scene was a special effect
dreamed up by Wes Craven
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that -- that still has me
squirming.
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So, anyway, Wade Davis actually
found out the recipes
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for the plants and animal parts
that were used
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by the voodoo doctors to create
zombies, and he identified
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the main neurotoxin that creates
the zombie state,
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and it's in the same family as
the Japanese delicacy, fugu.
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Fugucan be made from a
pufferfish or a porcupine fish
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and what you do is you
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take the pufferfish ingredients,
and you put them together --
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-I don't think we need
the recipe for fugu.
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Are you done over here?
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-OK, I guess not, but anyway,
Wade Davis came up with
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the same conclusions in the '80s
that William Seabrook
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came up with in 1928 --
that zombie-ism
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is a death-like state caused
by certain poisonous drugs
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that have to be administered
through the skin,
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usually with an open wound.
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But Wes Craven tried to film
"The Serpent and the Rainbow"
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in Haiti and he finished about
two-thirds of it
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and he had to flee the country
in the dead of night
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because the locals were getting
violent with his crews.
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So, there's not a lot of film
production in Haiti,
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as a result.
-Are you done for real now?
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-No because that brings us --
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that brings us to
"The Walking Dead".
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-That only took about
3 1/2 hours.
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And what is this, by the way?
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-That -- This is a --
This is familiar to what --
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-It looks like a three-year-old
did it with crayons.
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Just saying. Just saying.
-It's made for 3-year-olds.
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It's the way we teach zombie-ism
in the elementary schools.
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So, Darcy, have some respect
for history.
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And all of this, you know --
all of this leads to Georgia.
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-Did I miss something?
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-All of this leads to
the magical night
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of October 31st, 2010,
Halloween night,
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when 6.5 million people tuned in
to the premiere episode
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of "The Walking Dead",
produced by Robert Kirkman,
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who did the extremely popular
comic books
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called The Walking Dead,
plus Gale Anne Hurd,
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who was a Roger Corman protegee
who produced "The Terminator"
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and "Aliens", "Tremors".
-Yeah.
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-Directed by Frank Darabont
of "Shawshank Redemption"
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and "The Green Mile" fame,
with special effects
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by Greg Nicotero, who had
apprenticed -- he --
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Greg apprenticed before
on "Day of the Dead",
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the George Romero film,
and represents our direct link
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to the George Romero zombie
of 1968.
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So "The Walking Dead" was
the pinnacle, 42 years later,
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of the modern zombie.
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-Did we really need all that?
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-Yes, we need all that,
'cause you have to explain
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what a zombie is if you're gonna
show the most intense,
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expansive, world-encompassing
zombie project of all time.
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-I really just think people know
a zombie when they see one.
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-Well, yes, they do, but that's
because of the previous 82 years
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of American zombification lore,
as presented through cinema.
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And as I outlined --
-I'll take your word for it.
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00:18:01,010 --> 00:18:03,599
-Alright. OK, well, you don't
have to take my word for it
403
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because in just a few minutes,
we'll be welcoming Greg Nicotero
404
00:18:06,430 --> 00:18:07,810
to the set...
-Yeah!
405
00:18:07,810 --> 00:18:10,158
-And he has probably touched
or influenced or shaped
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00:18:10,158 --> 00:18:13,299
more zombies in his lifetime
than we could ever dream of.
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He knows his zombies
from "Z" to "Z."
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So, we'll ask him if
my historical survey
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was correct.
410
00:18:20,444 --> 00:18:21,617
-Let's -- Let's not do that.
411
00:18:21,617 --> 00:18:23,585
Let's ask him about
how he makes zombies.
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-I actually wanna ask him if
a zombie master in Haiti today
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would nail somebody's scrotum to
a chair in real life,
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and whether he's ever reproduced
having a scrotum nailed
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to a chair in any movie.
OK, I digress.
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-Naw.
-And now, let's watch
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the sensitive story
of what happens
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when a mild-mannered
deputy sheriff from a small town
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in Georgia wakes up
in a hospital room,
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still recovering
from a gunshot wound,
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only to discover that
the entire world
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has been overrun
by zombie hordes.
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While searching for his wife
and son, Deputy Rick
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soon finds out that it might
take 11 seasons
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just to clean up Georgia,
much less the other 49 states,
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the District of Columbia,
Guam and American Samoa.
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00:19:04,971 --> 00:19:08,457
So, the subtitle for
"The Walking Dead" could be
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"The Education of Rick,"
because, just to give you
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one indication of how naive
he is,
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in the first season, he goes to
the Centers For Disease Control
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to get a solution.
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So, fortunately for us,
the survivors
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in this post-modern western
never run out of ammo,
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and AMC never runs out
of zombies.
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And the result is the saga
that took the term
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"long-form television"
a little too literally
437
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and eventually made Leo Tolstoy
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00:19:37,176 --> 00:19:39,247
look like a guy
who writes short stories.
439
00:19:39,247 --> 00:19:41,559
So, it was
"The Texas Chain Saw Massacre"
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that first asked the question,
"Who will survive,
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and what will be left of them?"
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"The Walking Dead" combines that
idea with the themes
443
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from "Death Wish",
"Fort Apache",
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"The Good, the Bad, and the
Ugly", "Apollo 13",
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and "Faces of Death" to create
a new conundrum --
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"Who will survive,
what will be left of them,
447
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and who will eat
what's left of them?"
448
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So, let's look at
those drive-in totals
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for the premiere episode
and get started here.
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We have...
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Drive-In Academy Award
nominations for
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Andrew Lincoln, as Deputy Rick,
453
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for riding into downtown Atlanta
on a horse to save the day,
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then watching as the horse gets
devoured.
455
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,143
Lennie James as Morgan,
the family man
456
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who can't pull the trigger
on his zombie wife.
457
00:20:50,110 --> 00:20:51,940
Frank Darabont, the director,
458
00:20:51,940 --> 00:20:54,736
Greg Nicotero,
the zombie design master,
459
00:20:54,736 --> 00:20:56,358
and Robert Kirkman,
the creator
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of the original comic
and the screenwriter,
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for doing things
the "Drive-In" way.
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Four stars.
Joe Bob says...
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check it out.
464
00:21:05,540 --> 00:21:07,404
You know, I'm concerned that
people who don't see us
465
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every week, who are just
watching this thing on AMC,
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00:21:12,029 --> 00:21:13,824
they're gonna think
we're longwinded.
467
00:21:13,824 --> 00:21:16,447
-Wow, I wonder where they'd get
that idea. [Laughs]
468
00:21:16,447 --> 00:21:18,587
-I actually wanted to talk more
about Madge Bellamy.
469
00:21:18,587 --> 00:21:19,450
But, you know, you were...
-Who?
470
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-...Telling me to keep it short.
471
00:21:20,796 --> 00:21:23,282
You know, the star of
"White Zombie", Madge Bellamy.
472
00:21:23,282 --> 00:21:25,214
-Oh, my God,
that was, like, days ago.
473
00:21:25,214 --> 00:21:26,699
Nobody remembered that now.
474
00:21:26,699 --> 00:21:27,976
-Well, people should
remember her.
475
00:21:27,976 --> 00:21:30,841
You know, because she has a star
on the Walk of Fame.
476
00:21:30,841 --> 00:21:33,050
You know where Bela Lugosi's
star is?
477
00:21:33,050 --> 00:21:35,915
-Absolutely. Corner of Ivar
and Hollywood Boulevard.
478
00:21:35,915 --> 00:21:38,538
-Alright, if you can geek out
about Bela Lugosi,
479
00:21:38,538 --> 00:21:41,610
I can geek out about
his co-star, Madge Bellamy.
480
00:21:41,610 --> 00:21:42,646
-OK, Boss.
481
00:21:42,646 --> 00:21:43,612
-You know where
the Hollywood Rock
482
00:21:43,612 --> 00:21:46,132
ice cream shop is?
-No.
483
00:21:46,132 --> 00:21:48,721
-It's your neighborhood!
Don't you know where that is?
484
00:21:48,721 --> 00:21:50,654
-I don't know where it is.
[Laughs]
485
00:21:50,654 --> 00:21:52,518
-Madge Bellamy's star
is right in front
486
00:21:52,518 --> 00:21:54,071
of the Hollywood Rock
ice cream shop.
487
00:21:54,071 --> 00:21:55,106
You should know that.
488
00:21:55,106 --> 00:21:56,556
-No I shouldn't.
-OK.
489
00:21:56,556 --> 00:21:58,040
It just seems like you would
occasionally want
490
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,734
some frozen yogurt or something
and you would notice
491
00:22:01,734 --> 00:22:04,530
the Madge Bellamy star
in front of Hollywood Rock.
492
00:22:04,530 --> 00:22:05,876
Someday, you will.
493
00:22:05,876 --> 00:22:09,949
-Next time I see it, I will pay
my respects.
494
00:22:09,949 --> 00:22:12,641
-And the Don the Beachcomber
recipe for the Zombie...
495
00:22:12,641 --> 00:22:14,194
-Stop.
-..Is --
496
00:22:14,194 --> 00:22:15,437
I'll stop.
-Thank you.
497
00:22:15,437 --> 00:22:20,925
♪♪
498
00:22:20,925 --> 00:22:22,341
[Static]
499
00:22:46,848 --> 00:22:49,575
[Brakes squeal]
500
00:22:51,370 --> 00:22:52,336
[Engine shuts off]
501
00:22:52,336 --> 00:22:54,994
[Trunk clicks]
502
00:22:54,994 --> 00:22:58,066
[Keys jingle]
503
00:22:58,066 --> 00:23:00,965
[Bird cawing]
504
00:23:06,246 --> 00:23:07,282
[Door closes]
505
00:23:17,982 --> 00:23:19,398
[Keys jingle]
506
00:24:25,981 --> 00:24:28,846
[Bird chirping]
507
00:24:33,264 --> 00:24:36,302
[Flies buzzing]
508
00:24:49,833 --> 00:24:51,351
[Scraping]
509
00:25:06,159 --> 00:25:09,197
[Shuffling]
510
00:25:23,452 --> 00:25:26,490
[Shuffling continues]
511
00:25:49,824 --> 00:25:52,999
-Little girl?
512
00:25:52,999 --> 00:25:54,932
I'm a policeman.
513
00:25:54,932 --> 00:25:56,900
Little girl.
514
00:26:00,904 --> 00:26:03,458
Don't be afraid, OK?
515
00:26:06,150 --> 00:26:07,358
Little girl.
516
00:26:16,989 --> 00:26:19,957
[Panting]
517
00:26:19,957 --> 00:26:22,960
-[Growling]
518
00:26:26,723 --> 00:26:28,759
-Oh, my God.
519
00:26:31,555 --> 00:26:32,763
[Gun cocks]
520
00:26:37,250 --> 00:26:40,081
[Flies buzzing]
521
00:26:40,081 --> 00:26:47,882
♪♪
522
00:26:47,882 --> 00:26:55,683
♪♪
523
00:26:55,683 --> 00:27:03,587
♪♪
524
00:27:03,587 --> 00:27:11,388
♪♪
525
00:27:11,388 --> 00:27:19,154
♪♪
526
00:27:21,156 --> 00:27:23,365
-What's the difference
between men and women?
527
00:27:23,365 --> 00:27:24,470
-Shane: This a joke?
528
00:27:24,470 --> 00:27:27,404
-No, I'm serious.
529
00:27:27,404 --> 00:27:30,234
-Never met a woman who knew
how to turn off a light.
530
00:27:30,234 --> 00:27:32,236
They're born thinking
the switch only goes one way...
531
00:27:32,236 --> 00:27:35,067
-...on.
-[Mutters]
532
00:27:35,067 --> 00:27:37,586
-They're struck blind
the second they leave a room.
533
00:27:37,586 --> 00:27:40,037
I mean, every woman I ever let
have a key, I swear to God.
534
00:27:40,037 --> 00:27:44,559
It's like... come home,
house all lit up.
535
00:27:44,559 --> 00:27:48,287
[Scoffs] And my job, you see,
apparently because --
536
00:27:48,287 --> 00:27:50,013
because my chromosomes happen to
be different,
537
00:27:50,013 --> 00:27:52,256
is I then gotta walk through
that house,
538
00:27:52,256 --> 00:27:54,880
turn off every single light
this chick left on.
539
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,952
-Is that right?
-Yeah, baby. Mmm.
540
00:27:57,952 --> 00:27:59,816
Oh, Reverend Shane's a-preachin'
to you now, boy.
541
00:27:59,816 --> 00:28:02,094
[Laughter]
542
00:28:02,094 --> 00:28:04,717
And then, the same chick,
mind you,
543
00:28:04,717 --> 00:28:07,651
she'll bitch about,
uh, global warming, see?
544
00:28:07,651 --> 00:28:09,895
You see, this is --
this is when Reverend Shane
545
00:28:09,895 --> 00:28:12,518
wants to quote from
the Guy Gospel and say,
546
00:28:12,518 --> 00:28:16,660
"Um, darling, maybe you
and every other pair of boobs
547
00:28:16,660 --> 00:28:18,420
on this planet could just
figure out that
548
00:28:18,420 --> 00:28:20,940
the light switch, you see,
goes both ways,
549
00:28:20,940 --> 00:28:23,529
maybe we wouldn't have
so much global warming."
550
00:28:23,529 --> 00:28:24,737
You know?
-You say that?
551
00:28:24,737 --> 00:28:28,016
-Mmm. Yeah, well,
the, uh, polite version.
552
00:28:28,016 --> 00:28:31,399
[Laughs] Still, man, that...
that earns me this --
553
00:28:31,399 --> 00:28:35,092
this look of loathing
you would not believe.
554
00:28:35,092 --> 00:28:37,232
And that's when
the "Exorcist" voice pops out.
555
00:28:37,232 --> 00:28:40,304
"You sound just
like my damn father.
556
00:28:40,304 --> 00:28:42,824
Always -- always yelling about
the power bill,
557
00:28:42,824 --> 00:28:44,723
telling me to turn off
the damn lights."
558
00:28:44,723 --> 00:28:45,827
-And what do you say to that?
559
00:28:45,827 --> 00:28:47,587
-You know what I wanna say?
560
00:28:47,587 --> 00:28:49,935
I wanna say, "Bitch, you mean to
tell me you've been hearing this
561
00:28:49,935 --> 00:28:52,800
your entire life and you are
still too damn stupid to learn
562
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:53,835
how to turn off a switch?"
563
00:28:53,835 --> 00:28:55,975
[Laughter]
564
00:28:55,975 --> 00:28:59,358
You know, I won't actually
say that, though.
565
00:28:59,358 --> 00:29:00,911
-That would be bad.
-Right? Right?
566
00:29:00,911 --> 00:29:03,569
Yeah, I got with the, uh --
I go with the polite version
567
00:29:03,569 --> 00:29:04,950
there, too, so.
-Very wise.
568
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:06,848
-Yes, sir. [Laughs]
-Mm-hmmm.
569
00:29:06,848 --> 00:29:11,301
-Well.
570
00:29:11,301 --> 00:29:14,304
So how's it
with Lori, man?
571
00:29:14,304 --> 00:29:16,720
-She's good. She's good at
turning off lights.
572
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,413
Really good. And I'm the one
who sometimes forgets.
573
00:29:20,413 --> 00:29:25,729
-Not what I meant.
574
00:29:25,729 --> 00:29:27,213
-We didn't have a great night.
575
00:29:27,213 --> 00:29:30,907
-Hey, look, man, I may have, uh,
failed to amuse with my sermon,
576
00:29:30,907 --> 00:29:32,978
but I did try.
577
00:29:32,978 --> 00:29:36,567
The least you could do is speak.
578
00:29:36,567 --> 00:29:40,502
-That's -- that's what
she always says -- "Speak."
579
00:29:40,502 --> 00:29:43,402
"Speak".
580
00:29:43,402 --> 00:29:45,542
You'd think I was the most
closed-mouth son of a bitch
581
00:29:45,542 --> 00:29:49,822
if you ever hear her tell it.
582
00:29:49,822 --> 00:29:52,825
-Do you express your thoughts?
583
00:29:52,825 --> 00:29:57,347
Do you share your feelings
and that kind of stuff?
584
00:29:57,347 --> 00:30:01,351
-The thing is...
585
00:30:01,351 --> 00:30:04,043
lately, whenever I try,
586
00:30:04,043 --> 00:30:06,563
everything I say
makes her impatient,
587
00:30:06,563 --> 00:30:08,220
like she didn't want
to hear it after all.
588
00:30:08,220 --> 00:30:09,704
-Mm.
589
00:30:09,704 --> 00:30:13,087
-It's like she's...
pissed at me all the time,
590
00:30:13,087 --> 00:30:16,124
and I don't know why.
591
00:30:16,124 --> 00:30:18,782
-Look, man. It's just shit
couples go through.
592
00:30:18,782 --> 00:30:25,478
You know, it's a phase.
593
00:30:25,478 --> 00:30:28,205
-The last thing
she said this morning --
594
00:30:28,205 --> 00:30:33,486
"Sometimes I wonder if you even
care about us at all."
595
00:30:33,486 --> 00:30:37,801
She said that
in front of our kid.
596
00:30:37,801 --> 00:30:44,221
Imagine going to school
with that in your head.
597
00:30:44,221 --> 00:30:48,053
The difference between men and
women?
598
00:30:48,053 --> 00:30:51,539
I would never say something
that cruel to her.
599
00:30:51,539 --> 00:30:57,821
And certainly not
in front of Carl.
600
00:30:57,821 --> 00:30:59,996
[Radio beeps, static crackles]
601
00:30:59,996 --> 00:31:01,100
-Dispatcher:
All available units,
602
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:02,550
high-speed pursuit
in progress.
603
00:31:02,550 --> 00:31:04,828
Lindon County units
request local assistance.
604
00:31:04,828 --> 00:31:08,936
Highway 18 eastbound.
GTA, ADW-217-243.
605
00:31:08,936 --> 00:31:10,869
Advise extreme caution.
[Static crackles]
606
00:31:10,869 --> 00:31:11,835
[Engine starts]
607
00:31:11,835 --> 00:31:13,388
[Siren chirping]
608
00:31:13,388 --> 00:31:15,666
[Tires screech]
609
00:31:15,666 --> 00:31:17,945
[Siren wails]
610
00:31:17,945 --> 00:31:18,946
[Crow caws]
611
00:31:18,946 --> 00:31:21,949
[Sirens wailing]
612
00:31:23,364 --> 00:31:25,366
-Dispatcher: Suspects are
two male Caucasians.
613
00:31:25,366 --> 00:31:27,437
Be advised they have fired
upon police officers.
614
00:31:27,437 --> 00:31:29,473
One Lindon County officer
is wounded.
615
00:31:29,473 --> 00:31:34,237
[Birds squawk]
616
00:31:34,237 --> 00:31:36,480
♪♪
617
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,656
[Tires screech]
618
00:31:39,656 --> 00:31:42,555
-Dispatcher: Unit 1, unit 3,
to eastbound Route 18,
619
00:31:42,555 --> 00:31:44,419
two miles west of Interstate
85.
620
00:31:44,419 --> 00:31:47,526
We'll patch in
Lindon County Sheriff radio.
621
00:31:47,526 --> 00:31:48,837
-Man: Roger that.
We're five minutes south
622
00:31:48,837 --> 00:31:51,530
of the Route 18 intersection.
623
00:31:51,530 --> 00:31:53,083
-Man #2 over radio:
Dispatch, unit 1 and unit 3,
624
00:31:53,083 --> 00:31:55,396
we are 10-97 and code 100,
625
00:31:55,396 --> 00:31:59,918
Highway 18, E.B. of interstate,
please advise.
626
00:31:59,918 --> 00:32:02,265
Man on radio: 10-9, we just got
word from Lindon County
627
00:32:02,265 --> 00:32:04,094
that they're off 18,
southbound...
628
00:32:04,094 --> 00:32:05,924
[Tires screech]
629
00:32:07,856 --> 00:32:09,375
Old French Road
is closed down there
630
00:32:09,375 --> 00:32:11,239
so they're gonna head
back onto 18.
631
00:32:13,552 --> 00:32:14,898
[Guns cock]
632
00:32:14,898 --> 00:32:16,762
-Sounds like they chasing
those idiots up and down
633
00:32:16,762 --> 00:32:18,453
every back road we've got.
634
00:32:18,453 --> 00:32:20,041
-Maybe we'll get on one of them
video shows, you know?
635
00:32:20,041 --> 00:32:21,974
Like "World's Craziest Police
Chases." What do you think?
636
00:32:21,974 --> 00:32:24,459
-What I think, Leon,
is you need to stay focused,
637
00:32:24,459 --> 00:32:25,874
make sure you've got a round
in the chamber
638
00:32:25,874 --> 00:32:27,290
and your safety off.
639
00:32:27,290 --> 00:32:29,119
[Sirens wail in distance]
640
00:32:34,366 --> 00:32:40,475
-Would be kinda cool,
getting on one of them shows.
641
00:32:40,475 --> 00:32:43,478
[Engine revving,
sirens blaring]
642
00:32:51,797 --> 00:32:53,937
[Crashes,
tires screech]
643
00:33:04,465 --> 00:33:05,707
[Tires pop]
644
00:33:10,540 --> 00:33:12,921
[Glass shatters]
645
00:33:24,347 --> 00:33:25,831
-Holy shit.
646
00:33:48,267 --> 00:33:50,269
-Gun, gun, gun!
-Put it down!
647
00:33:50,269 --> 00:33:51,650
-Put the gun down!
648
00:33:51,650 --> 00:33:54,687
[Gunfire]
649
00:33:54,687 --> 00:33:58,070
[Bullets ricocheting]
650
00:33:58,070 --> 00:33:59,416
-Ah!
651
00:34:01,591 --> 00:34:02,971
-[Yelps]
652
00:34:02,971 --> 00:34:05,974
[Gunfire continues]
653
00:34:08,598 --> 00:34:10,358
[Gunfire stops]
654
00:34:10,358 --> 00:34:12,809
[Gun cocks, gunfire resumes]
655
00:34:12,809 --> 00:34:15,087
[Glass shattering,
bullet ricocheting]
656
00:34:15,087 --> 00:34:17,054
-[Grunts, wheezes]
657
00:34:22,060 --> 00:34:23,784
-[Yelps]
658
00:34:23,784 --> 00:34:25,408
[Gunfire stops]
659
00:34:25,408 --> 00:34:26,960
-Shane: Rick!
660
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,791
-I'm all right!
[Wheezing]
661
00:34:33,001 --> 00:34:36,108
-I saw you get tagged, man.
Scared the hell out of me.
662
00:34:36,108 --> 00:34:38,179
-[Panting] Me too.
663
00:34:38,179 --> 00:34:41,181
That son of a bitch shot me.
You believe that?
664
00:34:41,181 --> 00:34:43,667
-What, it catch you
in your vest?
665
00:34:43,667 --> 00:34:46,360
-Yeah.
666
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,295
Shane, you do not tell Lori
that happened... ever.
667
00:34:50,295 --> 00:34:51,089
You understand?
[Gunshot]
668
00:34:51,089 --> 00:34:53,608
[Shouts]
[Gun cocks]
669
00:34:53,608 --> 00:34:56,577
-Move in, move in!
-No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
670
00:34:56,577 --> 00:34:58,648
-You see where he come from?
-Shh, shh, shh, shh.
671
00:34:58,648 --> 00:35:00,857
-[Wheezing]
-No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
672
00:35:00,857 --> 00:35:02,686
He's hit!
673
00:35:02,686 --> 00:35:05,068
Leon! You get
that ambulance down here
674
00:35:05,068 --> 00:35:06,380
and you tell them there's
an officer down
675
00:35:06,380 --> 00:35:08,658
and you do it now!
Okay, shh, shh, shh, shh.
676
00:35:08,658 --> 00:35:10,142
I'm here. Hey, you look at me.
You stay with me.
677
00:35:10,142 --> 00:35:12,351
You hear me?
Shh shh shh. Okay.
678
00:35:12,351 --> 00:35:14,526
I'm right here, Rick.
You stay with me, you hear me?
679
00:35:14,526 --> 00:35:15,975
Shh, shh. That's it.
Do you hear me?
680
00:35:15,975 --> 00:35:17,425
Shh, shh, shh. Okay.
681
00:35:17,425 --> 00:35:19,013
I'm right here with you.
Stay with me.
682
00:35:19,013 --> 00:35:21,567
Shh shh. That's it.
I'm right here.
683
00:35:21,567 --> 00:35:23,914
[Sirens wailing
in distance]
684
00:35:23,914 --> 00:35:26,952
[Police radio chatter]
685
00:35:29,472 --> 00:35:30,714
[Static]
686
00:35:30,714 --> 00:35:32,060
♪♪
687
00:35:32,060 --> 00:35:36,134
OK, so, uh, not the best
police procedure in the world,
688
00:35:36,134 --> 00:35:38,308
but we are talking about
rural Georgia.
689
00:35:38,308 --> 00:35:41,449
Everybody relaxes their guard
and holsters their weapons
690
00:35:41,449 --> 00:35:43,727
prior to clearing
that overturned vehicle,
691
00:35:43,727 --> 00:35:46,696
which, as we know, from every
bodycam cop reality show
692
00:35:46,696 --> 00:35:49,802
ever filmed, is something
cops never do. [Laughs]
693
00:35:49,802 --> 00:35:52,495
Resulting in a stomach wound,
though, for Deputy Rick,
694
00:35:52,495 --> 00:35:54,393
which, by the way, is one of
the most likely wounds
695
00:35:54,393 --> 00:35:55,843
to kill you from
bleeding out.
696
00:35:55,843 --> 00:35:58,328
So I guess what they're doing
here is they're establishing
697
00:35:58,328 --> 00:36:01,055
that this scene takes place
in the Old World
698
00:36:01,055 --> 00:36:03,989
where people were still a little
lax with their weapons --
699
00:36:03,989 --> 00:36:06,716
unlike the foreshadowing scene
before the titles
700
00:36:06,716 --> 00:36:08,821
where Rick has to gun
down the little girl
701
00:36:08,821 --> 00:36:11,755
holding a teddy bear
and wearing bunny slippers.
702
00:36:11,755 --> 00:36:15,103
You know, for a certain
generation that scene
703
00:36:15,103 --> 00:36:16,760
has gotta bring up
all those memories
704
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:20,074
of the Viet Cong civilians
who killed American soldiers
705
00:36:20,074 --> 00:36:23,319
by pretending to be harmless
but then blowing themselves up
706
00:36:23,319 --> 00:36:26,287
or revealing a hidden grenade
at the last moment.
707
00:36:26,287 --> 00:36:28,427
You know, women, children,
the elderly --
708
00:36:28,427 --> 00:36:31,016
you could never tell
who was lethal in Vietnam.
709
00:36:31,016 --> 00:36:33,260
And, of course,
as we'll find out here directly,
710
00:36:33,260 --> 00:36:36,884
everyone is potentially lethal
in a "Walking Dead" episode.
711
00:36:36,884 --> 00:36:39,404
Of course that's Andrew Lincoln,
the British actor
712
00:36:39,404 --> 00:36:41,406
previously best known
for starring in
713
00:36:41,406 --> 00:36:45,168
the Christmas-themed romantic
comedy "Love Actually" --
714
00:36:45,168 --> 00:36:47,688
[Laughs] one of
your favorites, right, Darcy?
715
00:36:47,688 --> 00:36:49,103
-Oh, not really.
716
00:36:49,103 --> 00:36:50,967
-You were late to
one of our watchalongs
717
00:36:50,967 --> 00:36:52,624
because you were watching
"Love Actually."
718
00:36:52,624 --> 00:36:54,626
You know, you have a thing for
Andrew Lincoln.
719
00:36:54,626 --> 00:36:57,111
His real name
was Andrew Clutterbuck,
720
00:36:57,111 --> 00:37:00,010
but he changed his acting name
the way they used to do it
721
00:37:00,010 --> 00:37:01,598
at the old Hollywood studios.
722
00:37:01,598 --> 00:37:03,462
-Man, I do love Rick
in the show,
723
00:37:03,462 --> 00:37:06,465
and I even have a Rick Grimes
cosplay that I wear.
724
00:37:06,465 --> 00:37:07,984
But "Love Actually",
not so much.
725
00:37:07,984 --> 00:37:10,124
-Alright, well, I'm glad
you mentioned cosplay
726
00:37:10,124 --> 00:37:12,126
because we're about to do
some major cosplay.
727
00:37:12,126 --> 00:37:13,748
And actually,
I'm actually demeaning it
728
00:37:13,748 --> 00:37:14,991
by calling it cosplay.
729
00:37:14,991 --> 00:37:17,373
We're about to do
some major special effects
730
00:37:17,373 --> 00:37:20,790
visual tricks on
your face and torso,
731
00:37:20,790 --> 00:37:24,311
applied by the top zombie makeup
guys in the business.
732
00:37:24,311 --> 00:37:25,898
Alrighty, now, are you gonna be
up for that?
733
00:37:25,898 --> 00:37:27,831
-Are you kidding?
I live for stuff like this.
734
00:37:27,831 --> 00:37:30,282
-OK, then you're in luck
because our first guest
735
00:37:30,282 --> 00:37:32,215
for tonight's episode of
"The Last Drive-In" --
736
00:37:32,215 --> 00:37:33,803
come on over here, Greg --
737
00:37:33,803 --> 00:37:37,358
is Greg Nicotero.
[Cheers and applause]
738
00:37:37,358 --> 00:37:38,739
Have a seat, Greg.
-How are you?
739
00:37:38,739 --> 00:37:42,777
-Greg is not only
a special effects makeup legend,
740
00:37:42,777 --> 00:37:45,090
but is an executive producer
on "The Walking Dead,"
741
00:37:45,090 --> 00:37:47,575
has directed a lot of
the episodes over the years,
742
00:37:47,575 --> 00:37:51,476
and you even have your own
"Walking Dead" restaurant
743
00:37:51,476 --> 00:37:55,100
in Senoia, Georgia.
We were talking about Senoia
744
00:37:55,100 --> 00:37:56,515
in the intro.
745
00:37:56,515 --> 00:37:58,310
That you co-own
with Norman Reedus.
746
00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:59,484
-Yeah.
747
00:37:59,484 --> 00:38:01,796
-One of the most beloved
"Walking Dead" actors.
748
00:38:01,796 --> 00:38:05,041
So -- So, Greg, if I go to
Nick and Norm's restaurant
749
00:38:05,041 --> 00:38:07,423
in Senoia, Georgia,
can I order a zombie burger?
750
00:38:07,423 --> 00:38:09,494
-We don't have a zombie burger
on the menu,
751
00:38:09,494 --> 00:38:13,498
but we have a Norman burger,
we have a Greg burger.
752
00:38:13,498 --> 00:38:15,500
There are zombie drinks --
zombie-themed...
753
00:38:15,500 --> 00:38:17,191
-Oh, OK.
-...Alcoholic beverages.
754
00:38:17,191 --> 00:38:18,503
I would recommend those.
755
00:38:18,503 --> 00:38:20,401
-Do you follow the original
Don the Beachcomber
756
00:38:20,401 --> 00:38:21,402
Zombie recipe?
757
00:38:21,402 --> 00:38:22,955
-We do not.
[Laughter]
758
00:38:22,955 --> 00:38:25,372
And I heard a little bit of it.
You almost spilled the beans
759
00:38:25,372 --> 00:38:26,925
on it a minute ago.
-You know, well,
760
00:38:26,925 --> 00:38:29,272
there was -- there was a debate
between the Don the Beachcomber
761
00:38:29,272 --> 00:38:32,482
Zombie recipe and the
Trader Vic's Zombie recipe,
762
00:38:32,482 --> 00:38:34,277
and so I was gonna explain that,
but of course,
763
00:38:34,277 --> 00:38:35,382
we didn't have time for that.
So --
764
00:38:35,382 --> 00:38:36,486
-Trader Vic's is pretty good,
though.
765
00:38:36,486 --> 00:38:38,039
-[Laughs] Alright.
766
00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:40,835
I assume your menu is all
about meat, though, right?
767
00:38:40,835 --> 00:38:44,874
-No, it's actually --
it's a gourmet burger joint.
768
00:38:44,874 --> 00:38:48,774
Just happens to be set in Senoia
on the main street.
769
00:38:48,774 --> 00:38:52,985
I actually got killed by
Laurie Holden as a zombie
770
00:38:52,985 --> 00:38:55,850
in season 3 about 15 feet out
the front door.
771
00:38:55,850 --> 00:38:58,646
-Oh, OK. Is there a monument
there or a plaque?
772
00:38:58,646 --> 00:39:00,234
-No. There's just --
-[Laughs]
773
00:39:00,234 --> 00:39:02,823
-There's just pain and memory
from when she hit me in the head
774
00:39:02,823 --> 00:39:05,135
with her gun during
one of the takes.
775
00:39:05,135 --> 00:39:07,690
-Alright, well, I --
I was going to say,
776
00:39:07,690 --> 00:39:09,519
we should alert
the local health authorities
777
00:39:09,519 --> 00:39:12,902
to your meat recipes,
but great to have you here.
778
00:39:12,902 --> 00:39:17,458
Where were you
on Halloween night, 2010?
779
00:39:17,458 --> 00:39:22,981
-[Sighs] I was actually in my
house in Los Angeles,
780
00:39:22,981 --> 00:39:26,053
just dying for
the show to come on, you know.
781
00:39:26,053 --> 00:39:29,090
I feel like because I grew up in
Pittsburgh,
782
00:39:29,090 --> 00:39:31,196
it's in my blood, you know.
Like, the zombie --
783
00:39:31,196 --> 00:39:34,233
It took this long for everyone
else to kind of catch up
784
00:39:34,233 --> 00:39:38,617
on how great the zombie genre
was, and because of
785
00:39:38,617 --> 00:39:41,413
Kirkman's comic books and then,
you know, the advent of
786
00:39:41,413 --> 00:39:43,795
the video game. I think
when video games came out,
787
00:39:43,795 --> 00:39:46,694
and you were able to have --
like, first person shooter,
788
00:39:46,694 --> 00:39:48,765
you can actually shoot zombies
that were trying to chase you
789
00:39:48,765 --> 00:39:53,045
and kill you -- that --
that sort of reinvigorated
790
00:39:53,045 --> 00:39:54,978
the genre.
-But on that night,
791
00:39:54,978 --> 00:39:58,292
which is kind of a famous night
in television lore...
792
00:39:58,292 --> 00:40:00,190
-Yeah.
-...Did the people involved
793
00:40:00,190 --> 00:40:03,193
with "The Walking Dead"
have a sense that you had
794
00:40:03,193 --> 00:40:06,680
a blockbuster hit on your hands,
or were you still wondering
795
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,028
whether it would work or not, or
what was your feeling about it?
796
00:40:10,028 --> 00:40:12,479
-Well, you know,
it was challenging
797
00:40:12,479 --> 00:40:15,654
because, you know, Zack Snyder's
"Dawn of the Dead"
798
00:40:15,654 --> 00:40:16,862
had come out,
"Shaun of the Dead"
799
00:40:16,862 --> 00:40:18,933
had come out, we had made
"Land of the Dead" --
800
00:40:18,933 --> 00:40:21,695
there was a lot of zombie stuff
that was there.
801
00:40:21,695 --> 00:40:25,871
But what I think "Walking Dead"
ended up doing
802
00:40:25,871 --> 00:40:27,597
was it opened it to
a broader audience,
803
00:40:27,597 --> 00:40:30,255
because of the characters
and humanization.
804
00:40:30,255 --> 00:40:33,465
Like, you felt sympathy when you
see the half-zombie in the park.
805
00:40:33,465 --> 00:40:36,675
-Right, right.
-So I knew we had something
806
00:40:36,675 --> 00:40:39,540
special, and I knew that we had
something groundbreaking,
807
00:40:39,540 --> 00:40:42,094
and I remember being on the set
with George
808
00:40:42,094 --> 00:40:44,062
on "Land of the Dead",
and there were still concerns
809
00:40:44,062 --> 00:40:46,305
about censorship because in --
you know,
810
00:40:46,305 --> 00:40:49,343
when "Dawn of the Dead" came out
in '77 or '78 --
811
00:40:49,343 --> 00:40:50,689
-You couldn't put that stuff on
TV.
812
00:40:50,689 --> 00:40:52,622
-You couldn't put it on TV,
so we were doing things
813
00:40:52,622 --> 00:40:56,557
on television that nobody had
been doing even in the movies
814
00:40:56,557 --> 00:41:00,596
10 years earlier, so there was
a lot sort of riding on this,
815
00:41:00,596 --> 00:41:04,047
but, you know, I gotta give
the network a lot of credit
816
00:41:04,047 --> 00:41:07,672
for really letting Frank do what
he wanted to do.
817
00:41:07,672 --> 00:41:09,915
-Yeah, well there were
6.5 million people
818
00:41:09,915 --> 00:41:12,297
watching that premiere episode,
and those are great numbers
819
00:41:12,297 --> 00:41:15,473
for TV in any season, any year,
820
00:41:15,473 --> 00:41:19,407
but it would eventually go up to
17 million per episode,
821
00:41:19,407 --> 00:41:21,651
which are unheard of numbers
in this age
822
00:41:21,651 --> 00:41:24,102
of multiple channels,
multiple devices,
823
00:41:24,102 --> 00:41:25,931
multiple ways
to spend your time.
824
00:41:25,931 --> 00:41:28,382
So I wanna ask you one question
before we bring out
825
00:41:28,382 --> 00:41:33,076
your esteemed colleague
and we start zombifying Darcy.
826
00:41:33,076 --> 00:41:37,322
What was it, in your opinion,
about the world in the year 2010
827
00:41:37,322 --> 00:41:41,084
that made us all ripe
for zombie apocalypse shows?
828
00:41:41,084 --> 00:41:44,502
I mean, I-I -- I mean, I--
Horror fans had been following
829
00:41:44,502 --> 00:41:47,021
stories like this for years --
830
00:41:47,021 --> 00:41:48,782
since the original
"Night of the Living Dead"
831
00:41:48,782 --> 00:41:51,957
in 1968, but this was
a crossover phenomenon,
832
00:41:51,957 --> 00:41:53,856
as you pointed out.
I mean, millions of people
833
00:41:53,856 --> 00:41:56,203
that had never thought about
zombies before
834
00:41:56,203 --> 00:41:58,619
were fascinated by
"The Walking Dead".
835
00:41:58,619 --> 00:42:00,138
Now, don't say it was just
great writing
836
00:42:00,138 --> 00:42:02,209
and great direction,
'cause we know that.
837
00:42:02,209 --> 00:42:04,211
-It was, yes.
-It had to be more than that.
838
00:42:04,211 --> 00:42:06,385
It was a certain time in
America.
839
00:42:06,385 --> 00:42:10,251
-Well, you know, I think,
for me, the most important part
840
00:42:10,251 --> 00:42:13,254
is it's an evolving story.
841
00:42:13,254 --> 00:42:16,741
It' not a story that you can
tie up in two hours,
842
00:42:16,741 --> 00:42:18,881
where you can set it up,
introduce the characters,
843
00:42:18,881 --> 00:42:21,677
and resolve the situation
or the conflict.
844
00:42:21,677 --> 00:42:26,682
So the fact that we have had
170 or so hours
845
00:42:26,682 --> 00:42:31,894
to really get into who these
characters were and understand
846
00:42:31,894 --> 00:42:34,690
what they're willing to do to
survive and what --
847
00:42:34,690 --> 00:42:38,141
what this sort of global, epic
thing would do
848
00:42:38,141 --> 00:42:40,109
to each, individual person.
849
00:42:40,109 --> 00:42:43,664
So, it didn't have to get
wrapped up in two hours,
850
00:42:43,664 --> 00:42:46,391
and I think that that really has
a tremendous amount
851
00:42:46,391 --> 00:42:49,049
to do with it.
-But the -- the richest,
852
00:42:49,049 --> 00:42:51,672
most privileged country in
the world wanted to watch
853
00:42:51,672 --> 00:42:55,642
a story that's just
the bleakest... [Laughs]
854
00:42:55,642 --> 00:43:02,925
the bleakest post-apocalyptic --
I don't know, it's, like,
855
00:43:02,925 --> 00:43:04,927
nihilistic.
I would say it's nihilistic.
856
00:43:04,927 --> 00:43:05,928
-Yeah.
-You know, it's like,
857
00:43:05,928 --> 00:43:07,136
there's no hope.
858
00:43:07,136 --> 00:43:09,587
And that's what we wanted to
watch in 2010.
859
00:43:09,587 --> 00:43:13,038
It's still a little mysterious
to me as to why we wanted to
860
00:43:13,038 --> 00:43:14,730
watch that.
-Well, you know, you have --
861
00:43:14,730 --> 00:43:21,150
you have Rick, who -- who won't
give up looking for his wife
862
00:43:21,150 --> 00:43:24,291
and his son, and he holds onto
that hope,
863
00:43:24,291 --> 00:43:26,293
no matter what's happening
around him,
864
00:43:26,293 --> 00:43:29,952
and there's always,
in the world, stuff happening
865
00:43:29,952 --> 00:43:33,093
around you that you don't want
to look at, you don't want to --
866
00:43:33,093 --> 00:43:34,991
you don't want to accept as
really happening.
867
00:43:34,991 --> 00:43:38,926
You have to find the strength
and what is that one thing
868
00:43:38,926 --> 00:43:41,377
that will keep you going?
And with Rick,
869
00:43:41,377 --> 00:43:45,036
that one thing is he's gotta
find -- he's gotta find his son,
870
00:43:45,036 --> 00:43:46,416
and he's gotta find his wife.
871
00:43:46,416 --> 00:43:48,142
-So he's sort of the symbol
of civilization.
872
00:43:48,142 --> 00:43:50,006
But he starts to fall apart,
too.
873
00:43:50,006 --> 00:43:52,664
So, [laughs] alright,
you have graciously agreed
874
00:43:52,664 --> 00:43:55,322
to do some zombie schooling
for us here tonight,
875
00:43:55,322 --> 00:43:57,807
and to help you with that,
I want to introduce
876
00:43:57,807 --> 00:43:59,637
one of your most esteemed
colleagues
877
00:43:59,637 --> 00:44:01,466
in the world of
special effects makeup.
878
00:44:01,466 --> 00:44:03,710
He's a supervisor at
your special effects company,
879
00:44:03,710 --> 00:44:06,954
KNB, Carey Jones.
So, come on out, Carey.
880
00:44:06,954 --> 00:44:09,992
[Cheers and applause]
881
00:44:09,992 --> 00:44:11,821
Glad to have you here.
-Hey, buddy.
882
00:44:11,821 --> 00:44:15,929
-Yeah, Carey, you have created
almost as many zombies
883
00:44:15,929 --> 00:44:17,931
as Greg, right?
-[Laughs]
884
00:44:17,931 --> 00:44:19,277
Almost. Yeah, almost.
885
00:44:19,277 --> 00:44:23,212
-OK, I get letters and e-mails
every day
886
00:44:23,212 --> 00:44:25,697
from young people saying
"What's the best way
887
00:44:25,697 --> 00:44:27,734
to break into
special effects makeup?"
888
00:44:27,734 --> 00:44:31,013
You know, so I can imagine
what you guys must get.
889
00:44:31,013 --> 00:44:33,671
And the questions you must get
and the number of kids
890
00:44:33,671 --> 00:44:36,777
that wanna know,
"How can I do what you do?"
891
00:44:36,777 --> 00:44:38,227
-Yeah, that question comes up
a lot.
892
00:44:38,227 --> 00:44:41,161
I mean, I'm lucky enough, I grew
up in Pittsburgh, you know,
893
00:44:41,161 --> 00:44:43,819
like Greg, and at the time,
there was a lot of stuff
894
00:44:43,819 --> 00:44:46,511
being shot there, so I just
so happened to grow up
895
00:44:46,511 --> 00:44:48,340
when they were still shooting
a lot of stuff in Pittsburgh.
896
00:44:48,340 --> 00:44:50,791
So that's kind of how I was
privy to that, you know.
897
00:44:50,791 --> 00:44:53,035
-Yeah. You're from Pittsburgh
and Greg,
898
00:44:53,035 --> 00:44:55,382
you are from Pittsburgh,
and one thing I know
899
00:44:55,382 --> 00:44:57,004
from the history
of zombie movies is,
900
00:44:57,004 --> 00:44:59,731
if you wanna do anything
in this world of zombies,
901
00:44:59,731 --> 00:45:03,045
be from Pittsburgh, right?
-Yeah.
902
00:45:03,045 --> 00:45:05,254
-You know, that's the --
-Or make it into --
903
00:45:05,254 --> 00:45:07,497
Or make it through Pittsburgh.
-Make a pilgrimage there
904
00:45:07,497 --> 00:45:09,120
at some point.
-But what's interesting, too,
905
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,227
is for us, the last time that
there was -- there was such
906
00:45:13,227 --> 00:45:16,334
a resounding interest
in special effects makeup
907
00:45:16,334 --> 00:45:20,752
was after "Dawn of the Dead".
Between that period of, like,
908
00:45:20,752 --> 00:45:24,376
'77-'81, '82, where you had
Rick Baker,
909
00:45:24,376 --> 00:45:26,896
you had Tom Savini, of course.
910
00:45:26,896 --> 00:45:29,899
You had Rob Bottin.
The makeup effects were kind of
911
00:45:29,899 --> 00:45:32,074
the stars of all those movies --
"Friday the 13th".
912
00:45:32,074 --> 00:45:34,455
-Right.
-You know, Stan Winston,
913
00:45:34,455 --> 00:45:36,285
all those guys,
all of a sudden,
914
00:45:36,285 --> 00:45:39,253
people were going to the theater
to see makeup effects
915
00:45:39,253 --> 00:45:41,221
and creature effects
and prosthetics.
916
00:45:41,221 --> 00:45:43,085
So that --
-And Fangoria Magazine.
917
00:45:43,085 --> 00:45:45,225
-Fangoria Magazinecame out,
"Dawn of the Dead"
918
00:45:45,225 --> 00:45:49,056
was in the first issue.
So that was what got
919
00:45:49,056 --> 00:45:52,404
people in sort of my age bracket
and Carey's age bracket
920
00:45:52,404 --> 00:45:54,786
interested in makeup effects.
So what "Walking Dead"
921
00:45:54,786 --> 00:45:58,272
has been able to do is, I feel
like I'm paying it forward
922
00:45:58,272 --> 00:46:01,137
because now I have young kids
that are responding to
923
00:46:01,137 --> 00:46:04,002
"The Walking Dead" the way
that I responded to
924
00:46:04,002 --> 00:46:07,730
"Dawn of the Dead", you know,
"American Werewolf in London",
925
00:46:07,730 --> 00:46:09,801
"The Thing", all of
those movies.
926
00:46:09,801 --> 00:46:13,874
So, it really -- it really --
the legacy that I feel
927
00:46:13,874 --> 00:46:18,189
that we're leaving by with
"Walking Dead" is the ability
928
00:46:18,189 --> 00:46:21,848
to cultivate new talent and have
these young people coming to me
929
00:46:21,848 --> 00:46:25,161
and saying, "I want to do what
you do", because I was that kid.
930
00:46:25,161 --> 00:46:27,681
When I met Tom Savini for
the first time, I was that kid.
931
00:46:27,681 --> 00:46:29,856
-Well, after you learned all
the practical effects, though,
932
00:46:29,856 --> 00:46:32,410
didn't you have to, like,
start a new education and learn
933
00:46:32,410 --> 00:46:35,447
all the CGI that goes with
your practical effects?
934
00:46:35,447 --> 00:46:38,934
-Well, you know, the way that we
sort of perceive it
935
00:46:38,934 --> 00:46:43,904
is every -- every department is
a tool that you contribute to...
936
00:46:43,904 --> 00:46:45,457
-A handshake between different
departments.
937
00:46:45,457 --> 00:46:47,321
-...This painting, you know.
Like, a director comes in
938
00:46:47,321 --> 00:46:49,392
and says, "This is what
the painting that I want."
939
00:46:49,392 --> 00:46:51,187
And you're like,
"OK, stunts does that,
940
00:46:51,187 --> 00:46:53,224
makeup effects does that,
visual effects does that.
941
00:46:53,224 --> 00:46:57,745
It's when everything sings in
concert is really when it works.
942
00:46:57,745 --> 00:47:02,474
And that's kind of what we do.
You know, in the first episode
943
00:47:02,474 --> 00:47:04,925
of "The Walking Dead"
that we're looking at now,
944
00:47:04,925 --> 00:47:08,549
I would say 70% of the head-hits
were practical.
945
00:47:08,549 --> 00:47:11,276
We had little -- we had little
funnels that we would attach
946
00:47:11,276 --> 00:47:14,866
to the back of the performers,
and with a tube
947
00:47:14,866 --> 00:47:17,938
that went off to a little
bellows stomper rig
948
00:47:17,938 --> 00:47:20,976
that Carey and I built.
So you'd see this zombie
949
00:47:20,976 --> 00:47:23,668
come around the corner and look,
and then when his head
950
00:47:23,668 --> 00:47:27,085
would explode, there'd be a guy
off-camera stepping on
951
00:47:27,085 --> 00:47:29,363
a bellows, which would force
all the blood out.
952
00:47:29,363 --> 00:47:31,849
-Wow.
-So, we -- We're trying to do
953
00:47:31,849 --> 00:47:33,712
as much practical --
-That's how you did those shots
954
00:47:33,712 --> 00:47:34,990
where you're in the cross hairs?
955
00:47:34,990 --> 00:47:37,613
-That's rights right.
When Morgan shoots, yeah.
956
00:47:37,613 --> 00:47:39,477
-And that was a lot of the fun
with the first season.
957
00:47:39,477 --> 00:47:41,479
It's, like, all this stuff,
we were just coming up
958
00:47:41,479 --> 00:47:43,930
with new ideas on how to create
that, and that's, for me,
959
00:47:43,930 --> 00:47:46,104
what made it fun, you know,
as problem-solvers,
960
00:47:46,104 --> 00:47:48,382
coming up with ideas on how to
make this stuff practically
961
00:47:48,382 --> 00:47:50,522
was -- was -- you know, a lot of
people that were on --
962
00:47:50,522 --> 00:47:52,904
-Well, I would think that
even today,
963
00:47:52,904 --> 00:47:54,561
you do more practical effects
964
00:47:54,561 --> 00:47:56,528
than almost any
big-budget movie.
965
00:47:56,528 --> 00:47:59,877
-Yeah, I mean, the only other
thing that would be comparable
966
00:47:59,877 --> 00:48:02,293
would have been
"Game of Thrones",
967
00:48:02,293 --> 00:48:06,849
which a lot of those
White Walkers were digital
968
00:48:06,849 --> 00:48:08,471
because the design was
different.
969
00:48:08,471 --> 00:48:10,680
But, you know,
we have a makeup team,
970
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,098
and we're 11 years
into doing
971
00:48:14,098 --> 00:48:16,963
dozens and dozens
of zombies per episode.
972
00:48:16,963 --> 00:48:18,447
-OK.
-And after that long,
973
00:48:18,447 --> 00:48:21,381
there's definitely a shorthand
on how we come up with stuff.
974
00:48:21,381 --> 00:48:23,003
-Right.
-You have to make it efficient
975
00:48:23,003 --> 00:48:25,005
to kinda crank out
that many makeups.
976
00:48:25,005 --> 00:48:27,145
-TV schedule. I mean,
it's not a movie schedule.
977
00:48:27,145 --> 00:48:29,113
It's a TV schedule.
-Right.
978
00:48:29,113 --> 00:48:32,012
-How many days per episode?
979
00:48:32,012 --> 00:48:34,083
-Right now, we're about 9.
980
00:48:34,083 --> 00:48:35,602
-9 days for the whole episode?
-So, we're shooting
981
00:48:35,602 --> 00:48:38,329
basically a zombie movie
in 9 days.
982
00:48:38,329 --> 00:48:40,227
-Wow, OK.
983
00:48:40,227 --> 00:48:43,990
Carey, you have graciously
agreed to zombify Darcy.
984
00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:46,854
And I guess -- and normally,
I know if you were gonna
985
00:48:46,854 --> 00:48:49,133
do that, you would start with
probably a life cast,
986
00:48:49,133 --> 00:48:52,205
if this was gonna be a major
zombie in the show.
987
00:48:52,205 --> 00:48:55,070
But we obviously don't have time
to stick her in wet cement
988
00:48:55,070 --> 00:48:59,453
for half a day, so you're gonna
do this on the fly.
989
00:48:59,453 --> 00:49:01,248
This is gonna be like
speed chess.
990
00:49:01,248 --> 00:49:04,320
But we appreciate you doing this
for us.
991
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:05,597
-No, it's fun.
That's what we do.
992
00:49:05,597 --> 00:49:07,737
-OK. Well, take her away.
993
00:49:07,737 --> 00:49:11,258
She's agreed to let you
destroy her in any way necessary
994
00:49:11,258 --> 00:49:12,708
to create the perfect zombie.
995
00:49:12,708 --> 00:49:15,297
-That's not exactly what I said.
996
00:49:15,297 --> 00:49:16,919
-Alright, well,
I'm just letting Carey know
997
00:49:16,919 --> 00:49:18,162
that he doesn't have to
hold back.
998
00:49:18,162 --> 00:49:20,405
-Thanks for that.
-Alright.
999
00:49:20,405 --> 00:49:22,683
-OK, so you guys head for
the makeup room,
1000
00:49:22,683 --> 00:49:25,479
and we will check with you --
1001
00:49:25,479 --> 00:49:29,069
we'll check with you sometime
during the second episode.
1002
00:49:29,069 --> 00:49:33,073
OK, Greg, we have lots to talk
about while they're doing that,
1003
00:49:33,073 --> 00:49:35,317
but let's get back to
the premiere episode
1004
00:49:35,317 --> 00:49:37,319
of "The Walking Dead".
1005
00:49:37,319 --> 00:49:38,803
Roll the film.
1006
00:49:38,803 --> 00:49:42,393
And, oh, Greg! How is
"Creepshow" going?
1007
00:49:42,393 --> 00:49:43,773
-Oh.
-We're in the third season.
1008
00:49:43,773 --> 00:49:46,811
It just started.
-We're in the third season.
1009
00:49:46,811 --> 00:49:50,090
Interestingly enough, for me,
the first movie set
1010
00:49:50,090 --> 00:49:53,231
that I ever visited
was "Creepshow" in Pittsburgh.
1011
00:49:53,231 --> 00:49:54,992
-Yeah?
-When George was shooting
1012
00:49:54,992 --> 00:49:57,822
the movie, I had met him when
I was younger, and he had said,
1013
00:49:57,822 --> 00:49:59,720
"Oh, you should come visit
the set."
1014
00:49:59,720 --> 00:50:03,862
So, I had spent my first time on
a real movie set
1015
00:50:03,862 --> 00:50:05,450
on the original "Creepshow".
-Alright.
1016
00:50:05,450 --> 00:50:10,214
-So, to be able to continue
the tradition
1017
00:50:10,214 --> 00:50:12,733
and pay respect to the world
that George and Stephen King
1018
00:50:12,733 --> 00:50:20,879
created, we've produced
about 21 episodes.
1019
00:50:20,879 --> 00:50:24,435
-Yeah?
-And it's been a blast.
1020
00:50:24,435 --> 00:50:26,540
I mean, it's like my whole heart
and soul,
1021
00:50:26,540 --> 00:50:29,578
every story I wanted to tell,
every film-maker
1022
00:50:29,578 --> 00:50:32,132
that I've wanted to emulate.
-OK.
1023
00:50:32,132 --> 00:50:33,720
-I get a chance to do it.
-Well, we need to mention
1024
00:50:33,720 --> 00:50:35,791
"Creepshow" at every break
1025
00:50:35,791 --> 00:50:37,344
because that's Shudder's
marquee show.
1026
00:50:37,344 --> 00:50:38,828
[Laughter]
1027
00:50:38,828 --> 00:50:41,314
And you're the boss of that
show.
1028
00:50:41,314 --> 00:50:45,663
You -- But didn't you actually
turn down a job?
1029
00:50:45,663 --> 00:50:48,735
Didn't George Romero offer you a
job and you turned it down?
1030
00:50:48,735 --> 00:50:53,464
-Well, I was 17 or 18 years old
and I was getting ready to
1031
00:50:53,464 --> 00:50:56,467
go away to college to be
a doctor.
1032
00:50:56,467 --> 00:50:58,779
-Yeah.
-That was what I was --
1033
00:50:58,779 --> 00:51:02,024
that was the career path I was
on, and they had offered me
1034
00:51:02,024 --> 00:51:04,406
and opportunity to be
a production assistant,
1035
00:51:04,406 --> 00:51:06,822
and I said, "Well, you know,
I kind of am getting ready
1036
00:51:06,822 --> 00:51:10,343
to go away to school,
and I probably --
1037
00:51:10,343 --> 00:51:12,931
I probably would have to
respectfully decline."
1038
00:51:12,931 --> 00:51:15,037
And then George said, "Well,
just come visit
1039
00:51:15,037 --> 00:51:18,005
anytime you want."
That's where I met Tom Savini,
1040
00:51:18,005 --> 00:51:19,869
and I would visit the set of
"Creepshow" a lot.
1041
00:51:19,869 --> 00:51:23,977
So when "Day of the Dead"
came along in 1984,
1042
00:51:23,977 --> 00:51:26,013
George said, "Hey, we're doing
'Day of the Dead'.
1043
00:51:26,013 --> 00:51:27,705
Do you want a job?"
And I'm like...
1044
00:51:27,705 --> 00:51:30,915
[Growls] I said, I already
went through this once,
1045
00:51:30,915 --> 00:51:32,710
and so I said,
"Yes, I want a job."
1046
00:51:32,710 --> 00:51:35,609
I can't turn down working on
the sequel to
1047
00:51:35,609 --> 00:51:36,886
"Night of the Living Dead"
and "Dawn of the Dead".
1048
00:51:36,886 --> 00:51:38,474
So, I took the job.
-See, when you said
1049
00:51:38,474 --> 00:51:40,683
that George Romero offered you
a job and you said,
1050
00:51:40,683 --> 00:51:43,100
"No, I'm too busy.
I've got other things to do,"
1051
00:51:43,100 --> 00:51:45,343
half of our fans
had heart attacks.
1052
00:51:45,343 --> 00:51:47,000
[Laughter]
1053
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:49,416
-Well...
-So, Greg, the irony.
1054
00:51:49,416 --> 00:51:52,661
The irony.
-Trust me, and the fact that
1055
00:51:52,661 --> 00:51:56,182
it came back around --
-Yeah, and then you --
1056
00:51:56,182 --> 00:51:58,356
And then you get another chance,
you know.
1057
00:51:58,356 --> 00:52:01,118
-I got another chance.
Well, you know, the zombie gods
1058
00:52:01,118 --> 00:52:03,775
were smiling on me, I guess.
-[Laughs] Obviously.
1059
00:52:03,775 --> 00:52:05,018
Yeah.
1060
00:52:05,018 --> 00:52:07,054
♪♪
1061
00:52:07,054 --> 00:52:10,057
[Static]
1062
00:52:10,851 --> 00:52:15,097
[Ventilator hissing,
heart monitor beeping]
1063
00:52:15,097 --> 00:52:16,340
[Labored breathing]
1064
00:52:16,340 --> 00:52:19,412
-[Distorted] Hey, buddy.
1065
00:52:19,412 --> 00:52:22,035
We're still here.
1066
00:52:22,035 --> 00:52:23,968
We're still hanging in.
1067
00:52:27,661 --> 00:52:29,180
I'm sorry, man.
1068
00:52:29,180 --> 00:52:33,184
I know I say the same crap
every time I come in here.
1069
00:52:33,184 --> 00:52:34,151
[Sighs]
1070
00:52:36,083 --> 00:52:37,430
Everybody pitched in on these.
1071
00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:39,915
They... they wanted me
to bring 'em down.
1072
00:52:39,915 --> 00:52:42,159
They send their love,
and they just...
1073
00:52:42,159 --> 00:52:44,299
They hope you come back
real soon.
1074
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,614
[Chuckles]
Linda and Diane from dispatch,
1075
00:52:49,614 --> 00:52:52,065
they picked these out.
1076
00:52:52,065 --> 00:52:55,965
Probably could tell, huh?
1077
00:52:55,965 --> 00:52:58,692
I'm just gonna set these
on your side table, okay?
1078
00:53:01,385 --> 00:53:03,214
♪♪
1079
00:53:08,357 --> 00:53:11,602
-That vase...
That's something special.
1080
00:53:11,602 --> 00:53:14,536
'Fess up. You steal that for me
at Grandma Jean's house?
1081
00:53:14,536 --> 00:53:16,089
[Chuckles weakly]
1082
00:53:16,089 --> 00:53:19,368
I hope you left her
that spoon collection. [Laughs]
1083
00:53:19,368 --> 00:53:22,371
[Coughing and wheezing]
1084
00:53:27,031 --> 00:53:28,653
Shane?
1085
00:53:32,105 --> 00:53:35,212
[Raspy] Shane, you in the john?
1086
00:53:49,847 --> 00:53:52,539
[Crackling]
1087
00:54:15,735 --> 00:54:18,772
[Breathing heavily]
1088
00:54:27,125 --> 00:54:30,163
[Grunts]
1089
00:54:31,371 --> 00:54:33,373
[Sighs]
1090
00:54:48,112 --> 00:54:50,183
[Coughs]
1091
00:54:50,183 --> 00:54:52,254
[Grunting]
1092
00:54:52,254 --> 00:54:54,705
Nurse, help.
1093
00:54:54,705 --> 00:54:55,844
[Hyperventilating]
1094
00:54:55,844 --> 00:54:59,123
Nurse, help.
1095
00:55:08,305 --> 00:55:09,306
[Faucet handle squeaks]
1096
00:55:16,451 --> 00:55:19,177
[Lights buzzing]
1097
00:55:52,728 --> 00:55:55,697
[Buttons click,
handset clatters]
1098
00:56:12,438 --> 00:56:15,372
[Electrical humming]
1099
00:56:15,372 --> 00:56:18,375
[Ominous music plays]
1100
00:56:18,375 --> 00:56:25,692
♪♪
1101
00:56:25,692 --> 00:56:33,010
♪♪
1102
00:56:33,010 --> 00:56:40,327
♪♪
1103
00:56:40,327 --> 00:56:47,645
♪♪
1104
00:56:47,645 --> 00:56:54,928
♪♪
1105
00:56:54,928 --> 00:57:02,349
♪♪
1106
00:57:02,349 --> 00:57:09,667
♪♪
1107
00:57:09,667 --> 00:57:11,635
[Shuffling]
1108
00:57:11,635 --> 00:57:13,844
[Chain clinking]
1109
00:57:13,844 --> 00:57:16,812
[Clattering]
1110
00:57:16,812 --> 00:57:19,090
♪♪
1111
00:57:19,090 --> 00:57:21,092
[Metal squeaking]
1112
00:57:21,092 --> 00:57:22,266
♪♪
1113
00:57:22,266 --> 00:57:25,338
[Door rattling]
1114
00:57:25,338 --> 00:57:31,620
♪♪
1115
00:57:31,620 --> 00:57:35,175
[Banging and scraping]
1116
00:57:35,175 --> 00:57:37,281
[Chain creaking]
1117
00:57:37,281 --> 00:57:40,318
-[Moaning]
1118
00:57:50,363 --> 00:57:53,400
[Wheezing and groaning]
1119
00:58:02,651 --> 00:58:03,997
-[Hyperventilating]
1120
00:58:07,484 --> 00:58:09,486
[Buttons clicking]
1121
00:58:15,802 --> 00:58:16,976
[Door slams]
1122
00:58:19,910 --> 00:58:20,842
[Clack]
1123
00:58:24,501 --> 00:58:27,676
[Liquid dripping]
1124
00:58:30,437 --> 00:58:32,854
[Exhales sharply]
1125
00:58:32,854 --> 00:58:35,512
[Coughs]
1126
00:58:39,861 --> 00:58:41,518
[Coughs]
1127
00:58:44,072 --> 00:58:45,383
[Match strikes]
1128
00:58:47,109 --> 00:58:50,147
[Breathing shakily]
1129
00:59:06,197 --> 00:59:07,509
[Match strikes]
1130
00:59:13,446 --> 00:59:16,276
[Liquid dripping]
1131
00:59:22,386 --> 00:59:23,974
[Door squeaks, clangs]
1132
00:59:23,974 --> 00:59:26,977
[Insects buzzing]
1133
00:59:58,491 --> 01:00:03,530
[Flies buzzing]
1134
01:00:03,530 --> 01:00:13,506
♪♪
1135
01:00:13,506 --> 01:00:23,481
♪♪
1136
01:00:23,481 --> 01:00:25,656
[Shudders]
1137
01:00:25,656 --> 01:00:34,285
♪♪
1138
01:00:34,285 --> 01:00:42,915
♪♪
1139
01:00:42,915 --> 01:00:51,544
♪♪
1140
01:00:51,544 --> 01:01:00,173
♪♪
1141
01:01:00,173 --> 01:01:08,906
♪♪
1142
01:01:08,906 --> 01:01:17,501
♪♪
1143
01:01:17,501 --> 01:01:26,130
♪♪
1144
01:01:26,130 --> 01:01:34,794
♪♪
1145
01:01:34,794 --> 01:01:43,423
♪♪
1146
01:01:43,423 --> 01:01:46,426
[Birds chirping]
1147
01:01:46,426 --> 01:01:49,464
[Insects buzzing]
1148
01:02:07,516 --> 01:02:11,141
-[Rasping]
1149
01:02:11,141 --> 01:02:13,626
-Ah. Ah. Oh...
1150
01:02:13,626 --> 01:02:15,248
[Hyperventilating]
1151
01:02:15,248 --> 01:02:18,217
-[Growling]
1152
01:02:22,669 --> 01:02:24,326
-Uh...
1153
01:02:24,326 --> 01:02:27,364
-[Snarling]
1154
01:02:45,175 --> 01:02:48,040
-[Panting]
1155
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:49,213
Lori.
1156
01:02:49,213 --> 01:02:52,216
[Door hinges squeal]
1157
01:02:52,216 --> 01:02:54,287
Lori!
1158
01:03:00,638 --> 01:03:02,606
Carl.
1159
01:03:02,606 --> 01:03:03,987
Carl!
1160
01:03:03,987 --> 01:03:06,265
♪♪
1161
01:03:06,265 --> 01:03:09,233
Oh, shoot.
1162
01:03:09,233 --> 01:03:13,306
[Wheezes] Lori! Carl!
1163
01:03:13,306 --> 01:03:19,071
♪♪
1164
01:03:19,071 --> 01:03:22,074
[Sobbing]
1165
01:03:22,074 --> 01:03:26,733
♪♪
1166
01:03:26,733 --> 01:03:29,944
Lori! Carl.
1167
01:03:29,944 --> 01:03:32,187
[Sniffling]
1168
01:03:32,187 --> 01:03:36,571
♪♪
1169
01:03:36,571 --> 01:03:40,161
[Sobbing, hyperventilating]
1170
01:03:40,161 --> 01:03:42,957
[Gibbers]
1171
01:03:42,957 --> 01:03:46,857
♪♪
1172
01:03:46,857 --> 01:03:48,963
Is this real?
1173
01:03:48,963 --> 01:03:50,827
Am I here?
1174
01:03:53,312 --> 01:03:54,658
[Sniffles]
1175
01:03:54,658 --> 01:03:55,693
♪♪
1176
01:03:55,693 --> 01:03:58,420
[Crying] Wake -- Wake up.
1177
01:03:58,420 --> 01:04:00,215
[Sniffles]
1178
01:04:00,215 --> 01:04:10,191
♪♪
1179
01:04:10,191 --> 01:04:20,132
♪♪
1180
01:04:20,132 --> 01:04:30,073
♪♪
1181
01:04:30,073 --> 01:04:40,014
♪♪
1182
01:04:40,014 --> 01:04:49,955
♪♪
1183
01:04:49,955 --> 01:04:59,896
♪♪
1184
01:04:59,896 --> 01:05:09,871
♪♪
1185
01:05:09,871 --> 01:05:11,217
[Twig snaps]
1186
01:05:11,217 --> 01:05:12,425
[Clang]
1187
01:05:12,425 --> 01:05:13,633
[Thud]
1188
01:05:13,633 --> 01:05:15,842
-Daddy! Daddy!
-Carl...
1189
01:05:15,842 --> 01:05:18,569
Carl. I found you.
1190
01:05:18,569 --> 01:05:21,020
Daddy, I got the sumbitch!
I'm-a smack him dead!
1191
01:05:23,436 --> 01:05:24,921
[Gunshot]
1192
01:05:28,717 --> 01:05:29,926
-He say something?
1193
01:05:29,926 --> 01:05:31,272
I thought I heard him say
something.
1194
01:05:31,272 --> 01:05:33,895
-He called me Carl.
-Son, you know they don't talk.
1195
01:05:33,895 --> 01:05:37,243
Hey, mister,
what's that bandage for?
1196
01:05:37,243 --> 01:05:39,728
-W-- W-What?
1197
01:05:39,728 --> 01:05:42,317
-What kind of wound?
1198
01:05:42,317 --> 01:05:44,871
You answer me, damn you.
1199
01:05:44,871 --> 01:05:47,564
What's your wound?
1200
01:05:47,564 --> 01:05:49,842
You tell me...
1201
01:05:49,842 --> 01:05:52,017
or I will kill you.
1202
01:05:52,017 --> 01:05:59,196
♪♪
1203
01:05:59,196 --> 01:06:00,404
[Static]
1204
01:06:00,404 --> 01:06:03,062
♪♪
1205
01:06:03,062 --> 01:06:05,237
-OK, Greg, we wanted you
to feel at home,
1206
01:06:05,237 --> 01:06:07,584
so we got some barbecue.
1207
01:06:07,584 --> 01:06:09,517
-I hope this zombie's from
Texas.
1208
01:06:09,517 --> 01:06:12,589
-I don't know, this might be --
You know, I used to work
1209
01:06:12,589 --> 01:06:14,763
in Atlanta all the time,
and there was a place called
1210
01:06:14,763 --> 01:06:18,905
Abdullah the Butcher that had
great barbecue,
1211
01:06:18,905 --> 01:06:20,977
but I mean --
I'm sure it wasn't --
1212
01:06:20,977 --> 01:06:24,187
I'm sure it wasn't
on the level of
1213
01:06:24,187 --> 01:06:28,570
Greg and Norm's restaurant
in Senoia.
1214
01:06:28,570 --> 01:06:31,435
But, you know,
while we're watching here,
1215
01:06:31,435 --> 01:06:33,886
you know,
Rick is still not quite aware
1216
01:06:33,886 --> 01:06:37,510
of what's going on, but we are,
as an audience.
1217
01:06:37,510 --> 01:06:40,548
So this is an example of
the audience being way ahead
1218
01:06:40,548 --> 01:06:42,239
of the characters in the movie.
1219
01:06:42,239 --> 01:06:45,104
And the reason for that --
the reason you don't need
1220
01:06:45,104 --> 01:06:47,589
an extensive backstory
for "Walking Dead" --
1221
01:06:47,589 --> 01:06:50,834
is that, the backstory is
in "Night of the Living Dead",
1222
01:06:50,834 --> 01:06:52,353
"Dawn of the Dead",
"Day of the Dead",
1223
01:06:52,353 --> 01:06:54,493
"Land of the Dead",
and a half dozen other movies.
1224
01:06:54,493 --> 01:06:57,461
We already know what zombies are
and what they do
1225
01:06:57,461 --> 01:06:59,325
and we accept their existence.
1226
01:06:59,325 --> 01:07:00,982
So, would you agree with that,
Greg?
1227
01:07:00,982 --> 01:07:04,123
-I would agree with that,
but in our universe,
1228
01:07:04,123 --> 01:07:08,093
the word "zombie" -- like, the
Romero canon doesn't exist
1229
01:07:08,093 --> 01:07:09,404
in our universe.
-That's true.
1230
01:07:09,404 --> 01:07:10,578
Well, I don't think --
-In the "Walking Dead" universe.
1231
01:07:10,578 --> 01:07:12,200
-George never used the word
"zombie", did he?
1232
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:16,722
-He used it -- He used it once
in -- "Dawn of the Dead"
1233
01:07:16,722 --> 01:07:20,208
was the first time that he used
it, when he -- when Ken Foree,
1234
01:07:20,208 --> 01:07:22,728
when they're on the balcony
and he's saying,
1235
01:07:22,728 --> 01:07:25,489
"My grandfather was voodoo,"
and he says,
1236
01:07:25,489 --> 01:07:26,835
"When there's no more room
in Hell,
1237
01:07:26,835 --> 01:07:28,182
the dead will walk the Earth."
1238
01:07:28,182 --> 01:07:30,287
And there's a line at the end of
"Dawn of the Dead"
1239
01:07:30,287 --> 01:07:31,944
where he says, "There's going to
be a thousand zombies
1240
01:07:31,944 --> 01:07:33,463
in this place."
-OK.
1241
01:07:33,463 --> 01:07:35,844
-So George did use it in
"Dawn of the Dead",
1242
01:07:35,844 --> 01:07:37,984
and then it's kind of --
-But everything goes back
1243
01:07:37,984 --> 01:07:39,193
to Romero, right?
-Yes, always.
1244
01:07:39,193 --> 01:07:41,540
-I mean, a man you worked for.
1245
01:07:41,540 --> 01:07:44,474
And you also apprenticed
with a good friend
1246
01:07:44,474 --> 01:07:46,200
of "The Last Drive-In",
Tom Savini...
1247
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:47,580
-Mm-hmm.
-...Who was really --
1248
01:07:47,580 --> 01:07:52,068
he was really unknown before
he made "Dawn of the Dead"
1249
01:07:52,068 --> 01:07:53,552
with George Romero.
1250
01:07:53,552 --> 01:07:58,419
So how many zombies would
you say you have designed
1251
01:07:58,419 --> 01:08:00,110
in your lifetime?
Ballpark.
1252
01:08:00,110 --> 01:08:02,526
-Wow. Um...
1253
01:08:02,526 --> 01:08:05,667
I would say just less than
10,000.
1254
01:08:05,667 --> 01:08:07,186
[Laughter]
-10,000?!
1255
01:08:07,186 --> 01:08:10,293
Wow, I expected -- I expected --
well,
1256
01:08:10,293 --> 01:08:11,777
that is more than I --
[Laughs] Alright.
1257
01:08:11,777 --> 01:08:14,020
-It's a -- I mean, you know,
it's 11 years,
1258
01:08:14,020 --> 01:08:16,194
plus all the other zombie movies
that I've done.
1259
01:08:16,194 --> 01:08:19,542
Even "Dark Castle",
"House on Haunted Hill" remake
1260
01:08:19,542 --> 01:08:21,821
that Bill Malone directed,
we had zombies in that.
1261
01:08:21,821 --> 01:08:24,030
We've done other movies that
have had zombies in it,
1262
01:08:24,030 --> 01:08:26,688
so, you know --
-You ever find new things
1263
01:08:26,688 --> 01:08:28,380
to put on a zombie?
1264
01:08:28,380 --> 01:08:29,380
-Yeah.
-Yeah?
1265
01:08:29,380 --> 01:08:31,624
-Yeah.
-Even after 10,000?
1266
01:08:31,624 --> 01:08:33,316
Seems like you would repeat
yourself.
1267
01:08:33,316 --> 01:08:36,215
-Well, you know, you can't help
but repeat yourself,
1268
01:08:36,215 --> 01:08:38,942
but you know, I have a great
makeup effects team,
1269
01:08:38,942 --> 01:08:41,461
and, you know, I always sort of
liked the idea
1270
01:08:41,461 --> 01:08:44,844
that each performer that comes
in, it's a new canvas.
1271
01:08:44,844 --> 01:08:46,777
-OK.
-And then we provide them with
1272
01:08:46,777 --> 01:08:49,401
the prosthetic pieces
and the tools to create
1273
01:08:49,401 --> 01:08:51,712
this beautiful painting.
1274
01:08:51,712 --> 01:08:53,542
-That's a creepy idea, Greg.
-It is.
1275
01:08:53,542 --> 01:08:55,060
-I mean, you're at the airport
and you're thinking,
1276
01:08:55,060 --> 01:08:56,822
"There's a canvas.
There's a canvas."
1277
01:08:56,822 --> 01:08:58,202
-Oh, yeah. Trust me...
-[Laughs]
1278
01:08:58,202 --> 01:09:01,309
-...We've been at dinner, where
a waitress will come over
1279
01:09:01,309 --> 01:09:03,068
and she'll put our food down,
and we'll be like,
1280
01:09:03,068 --> 01:09:04,519
"She's be a great zombie."
1281
01:09:04,519 --> 01:09:06,072
She would be awesome.
[Laughter]
1282
01:09:06,072 --> 01:09:09,455
And a lot of people that are on
the show consequently have been
1283
01:09:09,455 --> 01:09:12,734
people that we would meet out at
a bar someplace and be like,
1284
01:09:12,734 --> 01:09:14,219
"Hey, you'd be a really good
zombie."
1285
01:09:14,219 --> 01:09:17,429
Cut to two weeks later,
they're in the makeup chair.
1286
01:09:17,429 --> 01:09:18,913
-They wanna be that zombie.
-Making them up as zombies.
1287
01:09:18,913 --> 01:09:20,190
-Alright, well,
we've already seen
1288
01:09:20,190 --> 01:09:23,020
three or four
of your iconic images.
1289
01:09:23,020 --> 01:09:26,921
I would imagine you guys were
planning these first few zombies
1290
01:09:26,921 --> 01:09:28,853
for the premiere episode
very carefully.
1291
01:09:28,853 --> 01:09:29,819
-Yeah.
-So you have
1292
01:09:29,819 --> 01:09:31,857
the little girl zombie.
-Yup.
1293
01:09:31,857 --> 01:09:36,758
-You have the snarling
old lady half-zombie.
1294
01:09:36,758 --> 01:09:39,278
-Mm-hmm.
-Do you give your zombies names?
1295
01:09:39,278 --> 01:09:42,970
-Yes. Well, she --
I named her Bicycle Girl,
1296
01:09:42,970 --> 01:09:45,526
only because
in the comic book --
1297
01:09:45,526 --> 01:09:46,871
and that's right out of
the comic book.
1298
01:09:46,871 --> 01:09:50,772
That's one of the key moments
that really sort of
1299
01:09:50,772 --> 01:09:53,499
defined the design of
the zombies.
1300
01:09:53,499 --> 01:09:56,053
The -- You know, the initial
comic book that was drawn
1301
01:09:56,053 --> 01:09:59,402
by Tony Moore, and then
Charlie Adlard took over,
1302
01:09:59,402 --> 01:10:03,612
I remember buying
that comic book in Austin,
1303
01:10:03,612 --> 01:10:05,166
at a comic book shop.
I was working with
1304
01:10:05,166 --> 01:10:07,202
Robert Rodriguez, and I bought
two of them.
1305
01:10:07,202 --> 01:10:09,239
-Yeah?
-Then I came back and I said,
1306
01:10:09,239 --> 01:10:11,931
"You gotta see these zombie
drawings. These are amazing."
1307
01:10:11,931 --> 01:10:15,003
Because the lips had pulled away
from the teeth,
1308
01:10:15,003 --> 01:10:18,179
it looked like -- like what
I always thought a zombie
1309
01:10:18,179 --> 01:10:19,284
would look like.
So when you look at
1310
01:10:19,284 --> 01:10:21,389
the first issue of
"The Walking Dead",
1311
01:10:21,389 --> 01:10:24,599
it's absolutely everything
that I always wanted to do.
1312
01:10:24,599 --> 01:10:30,433
So, when we started designing
that, I realized what I wanted
1313
01:10:30,433 --> 01:10:33,469
to do to translate the zombies
from the comic book
1314
01:10:33,469 --> 01:10:35,058
into the movie.
-So you're mostly --
1315
01:10:35,058 --> 01:10:38,475
mostly doing those images that
you originally saw in the comic.
1316
01:10:38,475 --> 01:10:41,996
-In the particular instance of
Bicycle Girl...
1317
01:10:41,996 --> 01:10:46,034
-Yeah.
-...We took what that concept
1318
01:10:46,034 --> 01:10:47,691
was in the comic book.
-Yeah.
1319
01:10:47,691 --> 01:10:50,107
-So we designed the teeth
and the contact lenses
1320
01:10:50,107 --> 01:10:51,487
and everything.
That was our inspiration.
1321
01:10:51,487 --> 01:10:53,835
-Right.
You also have the zombie carcass
1322
01:10:53,835 --> 01:10:55,527
on the floor of the hospital.
-Mm-hmmm.
1323
01:10:55,527 --> 01:10:57,907
-I don't know if that's a zombie
or just a dead person.
1324
01:10:57,907 --> 01:10:59,496
-Well, you know, it's funny
because...
1325
01:10:59,496 --> 01:11:01,498
-Is there a difference between
a zombie and a dead person
1326
01:11:01,498 --> 01:11:02,879
in your mind?
-Yes, because a zombie
1327
01:11:02,879 --> 01:11:04,121
will get up and move around.
1328
01:11:04,121 --> 01:11:06,296
If it's a dead person, it has to
have a head wound.
1329
01:11:06,296 --> 01:11:07,918
-Oh, OK.
-So then it won't get up
1330
01:11:07,918 --> 01:11:09,334
and move around.
-OK.
1331
01:11:09,334 --> 01:11:12,544
-So if you really look at
that shot of her,
1332
01:11:12,544 --> 01:11:14,787
her whole body's been chewed
away.
1333
01:11:14,787 --> 01:11:16,168
It's, like, basically gristle.
1334
01:11:16,168 --> 01:11:18,239
It's kind of, you know --
-Kind of like what we're eating
1335
01:11:18,239 --> 01:11:19,102
here, yeah?
-She probably tasted
1336
01:11:19,102 --> 01:11:21,068
like this tastes.
-[Laughs]
1337
01:11:21,068 --> 01:11:25,833
-But the face -- you know, the
face is relatively untouched.
1338
01:11:25,833 --> 01:11:28,905
So I had even talked to Frank at
one point about, like,
1339
01:11:28,905 --> 01:11:30,355
"We should do a zombie that
looks like her,
1340
01:11:30,355 --> 01:11:32,736
like, after Rick leaves
that hallway,
1341
01:11:32,736 --> 01:11:34,496
she gets up and starts
walking around,
1342
01:11:34,496 --> 01:11:37,189
but, like, her muscles have been
chewed on and stuff.
1343
01:11:37,189 --> 01:11:38,639
Those are the conversations we
have.
1344
01:11:38,639 --> 01:11:40,779
-OK, and then you have the
zombie walking down the street,
1345
01:11:40,779 --> 01:11:42,263
who's shot in the head by
Morgan...
1346
01:11:42,263 --> 01:11:45,784
-Yeah.
-...Played by Lennie James.
1347
01:11:45,784 --> 01:11:48,027
And then -- does that one have
a name?
1348
01:11:48,027 --> 01:11:49,822
-He does not.
-OK.
1349
01:11:49,822 --> 01:11:54,482
And then, of course,
you have that great crane shot
1350
01:11:54,482 --> 01:11:57,830
of all the dead bodies
swaddled in white --
1351
01:11:57,830 --> 01:12:01,351
might be zombies, I guess,
might not be zombies.
1352
01:12:01,351 --> 01:12:03,180
Probably just dead people.
-They're dead people,
1353
01:12:03,180 --> 01:12:06,252
Because otherwise, they'd be
thrashing around in their...
1354
01:12:06,252 --> 01:12:07,943
-And I guess that didn't require
that much makeup.
1355
01:12:07,943 --> 01:12:11,085
But, I mean, you said
makeup on --
1356
01:12:11,085 --> 01:12:12,880
-Those were dummies.
1357
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:14,468
-OK.
-So we had been --
1358
01:12:14,468 --> 01:12:17,885
You know, my company, KNB
Effects, we've been in business
1359
01:12:17,885 --> 01:12:23,477
since the late '80s, so we have
done 800 movies,
1360
01:12:23,477 --> 01:12:26,618
and we have life casts of, like,
countless number of actors.
1361
01:12:26,618 --> 01:12:28,516
-Right.
-So, when "The Walking Dead",
1362
01:12:28,516 --> 01:12:30,242
when we shot that,
we were sort of, like,
1363
01:12:30,242 --> 01:12:33,659
"Well, we need 60 dummies
to just wrap in sheets
1364
01:12:33,659 --> 01:12:35,005
and put at the bottom of
the steps."
1365
01:12:35,005 --> 01:12:37,835
So we grabbed any dummies that
we had on the shelves.
1366
01:12:37,835 --> 01:12:40,735
So one of them is Bruce Willis.
-Oh, really?
1367
01:12:40,735 --> 01:12:42,219
-One of them's Brad Pitt.
-[Laughs]
1368
01:12:42,219 --> 01:12:44,567
-One of them was Johnny Depp.
Like, the people --
1369
01:12:44,567 --> 01:12:46,396
the crew people were walking
through, and at one point,
1370
01:12:46,396 --> 01:12:48,639
Frank went, "Hey, is that
Bruce Willis?"
1371
01:12:48,639 --> 01:12:50,538
And I'm like, "Yeah."
"Is that Brad Pitt?"
1372
01:12:50,538 --> 01:12:55,543
So it became sort of a game on
set to see what celebrity
1373
01:12:55,543 --> 01:12:58,374
dummy was being used --
because we never saw the faces
1374
01:12:58,374 --> 01:12:59,651
they just grabbed them.
-Yeah, that's great.
1375
01:12:59,651 --> 01:13:01,377
No, that's an amazing shot,
though, that tells us
1376
01:13:01,377 --> 01:13:03,206
kind of what kind of
nightmare world
1377
01:13:03,206 --> 01:13:05,346
that we've entered now.
1378
01:13:05,346 --> 01:13:08,728
And -- Now, when you make
a dead body for the show,
1379
01:13:08,728 --> 01:13:10,764
and the show is done with
the dead body,
1380
01:13:10,764 --> 01:13:12,629
do you take it home
and use it for Halloween?
1381
01:13:12,629 --> 01:13:13,906
Or what do you do with it?
-Oh, yeah.
1382
01:13:13,906 --> 01:13:15,356
-Yeah?
-As a matter of fact, last year
1383
01:13:15,356 --> 01:13:19,981
for Halloween, I put 12 spikes
in my front yard
1384
01:13:19,981 --> 01:13:21,811
and stuck zombie heads
on the spikes.
1385
01:13:21,811 --> 01:13:23,537
-Oh, I'm sure that amused
the neighbors.
1386
01:13:23,537 --> 01:13:24,710
-And the funniest thing
is there was a guy
1387
01:13:24,710 --> 01:13:27,092
driving by, and he slows down,
he goes,
1388
01:13:27,092 --> 01:13:28,507
"'Walking Dead' fan!"
1389
01:13:28,507 --> 01:13:31,165
And I'm like, "Yeah."
And he just kept going.
1390
01:13:31,165 --> 01:13:33,684
[Laughter]
He just assumed that I was a fan
1391
01:13:33,684 --> 01:13:35,721
of the show because I was
putting zombie heads
1392
01:13:35,721 --> 01:13:36,998
in my front yard.
-[Laughs] OK.
1393
01:13:36,998 --> 01:13:38,344
-It's kinda funny.
-How many dead bodies
1394
01:13:38,344 --> 01:13:39,794
are actually in your house?
1395
01:13:39,794 --> 01:13:41,071
-Um...
1396
01:13:41,071 --> 01:13:45,317
Right now, there's probably
about -- there's 6.
1397
01:13:45,317 --> 01:13:48,285
There's one that we use from
"Creepshow" --
1398
01:13:48,285 --> 01:13:51,943
So when people walk into
my house, they just assume
1399
01:13:51,943 --> 01:13:54,532
that -- you know, there's
a replica of Mother
1400
01:13:54,532 --> 01:13:57,847
from "Psycho" sitting in
my office.
1401
01:13:57,847 --> 01:14:00,090
-Oh, wow.
-There's a bunch of skeletons
1402
01:14:00,090 --> 01:14:02,679
upstairs that we used
in a "Creepshow" episode.
1403
01:14:02,679 --> 01:14:04,405
There's a lot of stuff
all over my house.
1404
01:14:04,405 --> 01:14:08,754
-Alright. Deputy Sheriff Rick
is confused and weak
1405
01:14:08,754 --> 01:14:11,067
and wounded, and he's now
in the custody
1406
01:14:11,067 --> 01:14:14,519
of a very suspicious man
whose son just planted a shovel
1407
01:14:14,519 --> 01:14:17,038
in his face,
thinking he was a zombie.
1408
01:14:17,038 --> 01:14:20,041
So let's get back to the
legendary premiere episode
1409
01:14:20,041 --> 01:14:22,665
of "The Walking Dead."
1410
01:14:22,665 --> 01:14:24,183
How many episodes
of "The Walking Dead"
1411
01:14:24,183 --> 01:14:25,702
have you actually directed?
1412
01:14:25,702 --> 01:14:28,773
-I wanna say 37.
1413
01:14:28,773 --> 01:14:30,293
-Wow.
1414
01:14:30,293 --> 01:14:32,157
-37 hours.
-Wow. A lot of shows
1415
01:14:32,157 --> 01:14:34,815
don't even last 37 episodes.
-Yeah.
1416
01:14:34,815 --> 01:14:37,852
And most of them,
like, I'm the grim reaper.
1417
01:14:37,852 --> 01:14:40,683
Like, I would -- I kill --
I've killed more people
1418
01:14:40,683 --> 01:14:42,823
on the show than the zombies.
1419
01:14:42,823 --> 01:14:44,272
-They bring you in for the kill?
1420
01:14:44,272 --> 01:14:46,447
-They bring me in for the big --
you know, like, the premieres,
1421
01:14:46,447 --> 01:14:48,587
the finales.
-So you are the person
1422
01:14:48,587 --> 01:14:50,278
who tugs on the sleeve of
the actor and says...
1423
01:14:50,278 --> 01:14:53,040
-That's... Yeah.
-"Hey, you know, we need you --
1424
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:54,869
we need to have a meeting
for what we're going to do
1425
01:14:54,869 --> 01:14:56,802
with you next week."
-That's me.
1426
01:14:56,802 --> 01:14:58,183
-[Laughs]
-And by the way, you know,
1427
01:14:58,183 --> 01:14:59,978
you don't think when the actors,
when I call them,
1428
01:14:59,978 --> 01:15:02,359
they see my name, they're like,
"Decline."
1429
01:15:02,359 --> 01:15:05,052
'Cause they don't want me to be
the guy who's gonna call them.
1430
01:15:05,052 --> 01:15:09,056
I would call Melissa McBride,
like, during -- just to say hi
1431
01:15:09,056 --> 01:15:10,505
'cause we worked together on
"The Mist".
1432
01:15:10,505 --> 01:15:12,404
That's where I met Melissa,
1433
01:15:12,404 --> 01:15:14,579
and that's where Frank cast her,
in "The Mist".
1434
01:15:14,579 --> 01:15:16,063
So that's where he got to
know her.
1435
01:15:16,063 --> 01:15:18,272
And every -- for a while there,
every time I would call her,
1436
01:15:18,272 --> 01:15:20,101
she'd be like,
"Am I dying?
1437
01:15:20,101 --> 01:15:21,413
What do you want?"
1438
01:15:21,413 --> 01:15:23,001
Like, "No, I was just calling to
say hi."
1439
01:15:23,001 --> 01:15:24,761
And she's like,
"Uh-huh, uh-huh."
1440
01:15:24,761 --> 01:15:28,385
There was always a little bit
of that, like, "Hmm."
1441
01:15:28,385 --> 01:15:30,835
-You know it's gonna happen.
I mean --
1442
01:15:30,835 --> 01:15:33,389
I mean, if you're on the show,
you know it's gonna happen.
1443
01:15:33,389 --> 01:15:35,151
It's sort of, like --
It's sort of like being
1444
01:15:35,151 --> 01:15:37,360
Seinfeld's girlfriend.
You know?
1445
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,673
You know you're not going to be
called back.
1446
01:15:39,673 --> 01:15:40,984
[Laughter]
1447
01:15:40,984 --> 01:15:45,092
-Well, but however, on our show,
they'll do a flashback...
1448
01:15:45,092 --> 01:15:47,025
-Oh, OK.
-...And then all of a sudden,
1449
01:15:47,025 --> 01:15:51,166
you know, Abraham will show up
again or, you know,
1450
01:15:51,166 --> 01:15:52,893
Sonequa Martin-Green will show
up again.
1451
01:15:52,893 --> 01:15:56,413
Like, the actors do end up
coming back, you know.
1452
01:15:56,413 --> 01:15:59,485
Rick's last episode that
I directed
1453
01:15:59,485 --> 01:16:04,007
where he was whisked off,
we had Scott Wilson back.
1454
01:16:04,007 --> 01:16:05,181
-OK.
-And, you know...
1455
01:16:05,181 --> 01:16:08,046
-Now, in addition to your
"Walking Dead" episodes,
1456
01:16:08,046 --> 01:16:10,496
how many "Creepshow" episodes
have you directed?
1457
01:16:10,496 --> 01:16:12,360
-Oh... [Buzzes lips]
1458
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:16,606
I think 6.
6 or 8 of the 21.
1459
01:16:16,606 --> 01:16:19,678
-OK. See, I tricked you
into talking about "Creepshow".
1460
01:16:19,678 --> 01:16:21,577
-That was good.
Hey, you know, "Creepshow" airs
1461
01:16:21,577 --> 01:16:23,371
on Shudder.
-I know, it's on Shudder.
1462
01:16:23,371 --> 01:16:24,925
-Did you know that? And AMC+.
1463
01:16:24,925 --> 01:16:26,651
-Season 3, yeah.
-Like, you and I are, like,
1464
01:16:26,651 --> 01:16:28,237
you know, Shudder is right here.
1465
01:16:28,237 --> 01:16:30,827
If something bad were to happen,
then Shudder might be
1466
01:16:30,827 --> 01:16:31,966
a little in trouble.
1467
01:16:31,966 --> 01:16:34,072
[Laughter]
1468
01:16:34,072 --> 01:16:36,868
So let's make sure --
Oh, no! It's the ribs!
1469
01:16:36,868 --> 01:16:38,800
No. [Laughs]
1470
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:39,802
[Laughter]
1471
01:16:39,802 --> 01:16:44,254
♪♪
1472
01:16:44,254 --> 01:16:45,704
[Static]
1473
01:16:45,704 --> 01:16:49,605
♪♪
1474
01:16:49,605 --> 01:16:52,608
[footsteps]
1475
01:16:56,957 --> 01:16:59,960
[Rubber gloves snap]
1476
01:17:02,065 --> 01:17:04,240
-Got that bandage changed now.
1477
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,862
It was pretty rank.
1478
01:17:06,862 --> 01:17:10,487
What was the wound?
1479
01:17:10,487 --> 01:17:13,629
-Gunshot.
-Gunshot?
1480
01:17:13,629 --> 01:17:16,632
What else? Anything?
1481
01:17:16,632 --> 01:17:20,083
-Gunshot ain't enough?
1482
01:17:20,083 --> 01:17:22,914
-Look, I ask and you answer.
1483
01:17:22,914 --> 01:17:25,571
That's common courtesy, right?
1484
01:17:28,505 --> 01:17:31,094
[Emphatically]
Did you get bit?
1485
01:17:33,371 --> 01:17:36,237
-"Bit?"
-Bit, chewed, maybe scratched...
1486
01:17:36,237 --> 01:17:38,619
Anything like that?
1487
01:17:38,619 --> 01:17:41,173
-No, I got shot.
1488
01:17:41,173 --> 01:17:44,487
Just shot, as far as I know.
1489
01:17:47,076 --> 01:17:50,182
-Hey. Just let me.
1490
01:17:52,737 --> 01:17:54,842
Feels cool enough.
1491
01:17:54,842 --> 01:17:57,707
Fever would've killed you
by now.
1492
01:17:57,707 --> 01:17:59,226
-I don't think I have one.
1493
01:17:59,226 --> 01:18:01,400
-Be hard to miss.
1494
01:18:07,027 --> 01:18:10,893
Take a moment,
look how sharp it is.
1495
01:18:10,893 --> 01:18:12,929
You try anything,
1496
01:18:12,929 --> 01:18:15,932
I will kill you with it,
and don't you think I won't.
1497
01:18:19,177 --> 01:18:21,144
[Rope snaps]
-[Sighs]
1498
01:18:21,144 --> 01:18:23,699
[Rope snaps]
1499
01:18:23,699 --> 01:18:26,253
[Rope snaps]
1500
01:18:26,253 --> 01:18:27,599
[Knife clicks]
1501
01:18:27,599 --> 01:18:30,084
-Come on out when you're able.
1502
01:18:33,156 --> 01:18:34,951
Come on.
1503
01:18:45,582 --> 01:18:48,550
[Ladle scrapes]
1504
01:19:04,222 --> 01:19:06,155
[Dishes clatter]
1505
01:19:06,155 --> 01:19:08,813
-This place...
1506
01:19:08,813 --> 01:19:11,469
Fred and Cindy Drake's?
1507
01:19:11,469 --> 01:19:13,127
-Never met 'em.
1508
01:19:13,127 --> 01:19:16,061
-I've been here.
This is their place.
1509
01:19:16,061 --> 01:19:18,995
-It was empty when we got here.
1510
01:19:21,273 --> 01:19:22,999
Don't do that.
1511
01:19:22,999 --> 01:19:24,862
They'll see the light.
1512
01:19:24,862 --> 01:19:27,624
There's more of them
out there than usual.
1513
01:19:27,624 --> 01:19:31,007
I never should've fired
that gun today.
1514
01:19:31,007 --> 01:19:34,630
Sound draws them.
Now they're all over the street.
1515
01:19:34,630 --> 01:19:38,394
Stupid...using a gun.
1516
01:19:38,394 --> 01:19:41,259
But it all happened so fast,
1517
01:19:41,259 --> 01:19:42,432
I didn't think.
1518
01:19:42,432 --> 01:19:45,021
-You shot that man today.
1519
01:19:45,021 --> 01:19:47,230
-Man?
-It weren't no man.
1520
01:19:47,230 --> 01:19:49,923
-What the hell was that
out your mouth just now?
1521
01:19:49,923 --> 01:19:51,200
-It wasn't a man.
1522
01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:53,858
-You shot him in the street
out front -- a man.
1523
01:19:53,858 --> 01:19:57,171
-Friend, you need glasses.
It was a walker.
1524
01:19:57,171 --> 01:19:59,346
Come on.
1525
01:19:59,346 --> 01:20:03,452
Sit down
before you fall down.
1526
01:20:03,452 --> 01:20:04,764
Here.
1527
01:20:07,630 --> 01:20:09,874
-Daddy.
1528
01:20:09,874 --> 01:20:11,807
Blessing.
1529
01:20:12,737 --> 01:20:14,671
-Yeah.
1530
01:20:26,994 --> 01:20:29,272
-Father, we thank thee
for this food,
1531
01:20:29,272 --> 01:20:31,273
thy blessings,
1532
01:20:31,273 --> 01:20:34,346
and we ask you to watch over us
in these crazy days.
1533
01:20:34,346 --> 01:20:36,141
Amen.
-Amen.
1534
01:20:42,803 --> 01:20:45,254
-Hey, mister, you even know
what's going on?
1535
01:20:45,254 --> 01:20:51,156
-I woke up today
in the hospital.
1536
01:20:51,156 --> 01:20:53,503
Came home
and that's all I know.
1537
01:20:56,713 --> 01:20:58,335
-But you know about
the dead people, right?
1538
01:20:58,335 --> 01:21:00,821
-Yeah, I saw a lot of that...
1539
01:21:00,821 --> 01:21:03,719
Out on the loading dock,
piled into trucks.
1540
01:21:03,719 --> 01:21:07,344
-No, not the ones they put down,
the ones they didn't --
1541
01:21:07,344 --> 01:21:09,726
the walkers,
1542
01:21:09,726 --> 01:21:11,867
like the one I shot today.
1543
01:21:11,867 --> 01:21:13,730
'Cause he'd have ripped
into you,
1544
01:21:13,730 --> 01:21:17,562
tried to eat you,
taken some flesh at least.
1545
01:21:17,562 --> 01:21:20,392
Well, I guess if this is
the first you're hearing it,
1546
01:21:20,392 --> 01:21:22,567
I know how it must sound.
1547
01:21:25,294 --> 01:21:27,089
-They're out there now?
In the street?
1548
01:21:27,089 --> 01:21:28,745
-Yeah.
1549
01:21:28,745 --> 01:21:31,714
They get more active
after dark sometimes.
1550
01:21:31,714 --> 01:21:33,302
Maybe it's the cool air or,
1551
01:21:33,302 --> 01:21:36,477
hell, maybe it's just
me firing that gun today.
1552
01:21:36,477 --> 01:21:39,480
But we'll be fine,
long as we stay quiet.
1553
01:21:39,480 --> 01:21:42,414
Probably wander off by morning.
1554
01:21:44,106 --> 01:21:46,625
But listen,
1555
01:21:46,625 --> 01:21:49,111
one thing I do know --
1556
01:21:49,111 --> 01:21:50,906
don't you get bit.
1557
01:21:50,906 --> 01:21:52,493
I saw your bandage
and that's what
1558
01:21:52,493 --> 01:21:54,806
we were afraid of.
1559
01:21:54,806 --> 01:21:56,670
Bites kill you.
1560
01:21:56,670 --> 01:21:58,568
The fever burns you out.
1561
01:21:58,568 --> 01:22:01,019
But then after a while...
1562
01:22:02,365 --> 01:22:04,920
you come back.
1563
01:22:09,441 --> 01:22:11,374
-Seen it happen.
1564
01:22:16,655 --> 01:22:18,726
-Come on.
1565
01:22:26,148 --> 01:22:29,116
-Carl -- he your son?
1566
01:22:30,496 --> 01:22:35,295
Well, you --
you said his name today.
1567
01:22:35,295 --> 01:22:38,987
-He's a little younger
than your boy.
1568
01:22:38,987 --> 01:22:40,645
-And he's with his mother?
1569
01:22:40,645 --> 01:22:42,543
[Sighs]
1570
01:22:42,543 --> 01:22:45,374
I hope so.
1571
01:22:45,374 --> 01:22:46,962
-Dad.
1572
01:22:46,962 --> 01:22:49,481
-Hey.
1573
01:22:49,481 --> 01:22:51,518
-Did you ask him?
1574
01:22:51,518 --> 01:22:54,072
-[Chuckles]
1575
01:22:54,072 --> 01:22:56,592
Your gunshot --
we got a little bet going.
1576
01:22:56,592 --> 01:22:59,491
My boy says
you're a bank robber.
1577
01:22:59,491 --> 01:23:01,493
[Chuckles]
1578
01:23:01,493 --> 01:23:06,464
-Yeah, that's me,
Deadliest Dillinger. Kapow.
1579
01:23:06,464 --> 01:23:08,052
-[Chuckles]
1580
01:23:08,052 --> 01:23:09,536
-Sheriff's deputy.
1581
01:23:11,157 --> 01:23:13,228
-Uh-huh.
1582
01:23:14,955 --> 01:23:16,025
[Car alarm blaring]
1583
01:23:16,025 --> 01:23:18,200
Hey, it's okay. Daddy's here.
1584
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:20,133
It's nothing.
1585
01:23:20,133 --> 01:23:23,032
One of them must've
bumped a car.
1586
01:23:23,032 --> 01:23:27,209
-Are you sure?
-It happened once before.
1587
01:23:27,209 --> 01:23:30,005
It went on for a few minutes.
1588
01:23:31,420 --> 01:23:32,938
Get the light, Duane.
1589
01:23:32,938 --> 01:23:35,976
[Alarm continues]
1590
01:23:47,022 --> 01:23:49,645
It's the blue one on the street,
1591
01:23:49,645 --> 01:23:51,750
the same one as last time.
1592
01:23:51,750 --> 01:23:54,477
I think we're okay.
1593
01:23:56,617 --> 01:24:00,035
-That noise,
won't it bring more of them?
1594
01:24:00,035 --> 01:24:01,657
-Nothing we can do about it now.
1595
01:24:02,968 --> 01:24:04,867
Just have to
wait 'em out till morning.
1596
01:24:08,698 --> 01:24:11,943
-[Gasps] She's here.
1597
01:24:11,943 --> 01:24:14,014
-Don't look.
Get away from the windows.
1598
01:24:14,014 --> 01:24:15,843
♪♪
1599
01:24:15,843 --> 01:24:17,983
I said go. Come on.
1600
01:24:17,983 --> 01:24:20,814
♪♪
1601
01:24:20,814 --> 01:24:23,058
-[Sobbing]
1602
01:24:23,058 --> 01:24:25,405
-Duane. Duane, quiet now.
1603
01:24:25,405 --> 01:24:27,889
Come on. Quiet now.
-[Muffled wailing]
1604
01:24:27,889 --> 01:24:32,481
-Shh, shh.
-[Muffled sobbing continues]
1605
01:24:33,758 --> 01:24:41,593
♪♪
1606
01:24:41,593 --> 01:24:49,463
♪♪
1607
01:24:49,463 --> 01:24:51,638
-It's okay. Here.
1608
01:24:51,638 --> 01:24:54,675
Cry into the pillow.
You remember?
1609
01:24:54,675 --> 01:24:56,952
Shh. Shh.
1610
01:24:56,952 --> 01:24:59,991
[Footsteps]
1611
01:25:16,766 --> 01:25:19,769
[Doorknob rattling]
1612
01:25:19,769 --> 01:25:25,189
♪♪
1613
01:25:25,189 --> 01:25:30,573
♪♪
1614
01:25:30,573 --> 01:25:33,404
-[Sniffling quietly]
1615
01:25:34,818 --> 01:25:38,029
-She, um...
1616
01:25:38,029 --> 01:25:43,862
She died in that other room
on that bed in there.
1617
01:25:43,862 --> 01:25:47,418
There was nothing I cou--
that I could do about it.
1618
01:25:47,418 --> 01:25:50,179
That fever, man.
1619
01:25:50,179 --> 01:25:53,424
Her skin gave off
a heat like a furnace.
1620
01:25:53,424 --> 01:25:58,325
[Crying]
1621
01:25:58,325 --> 01:26:00,085
I should've...
[Sighs]
1622
01:26:00,085 --> 01:26:02,364
I should've put her down, man.
I should've put her down.
1623
01:26:02,364 --> 01:26:06,057
I know that, but I --
1624
01:26:06,057 --> 01:26:09,543
You know what?
I just didn't have it in me.
1625
01:26:13,582 --> 01:26:16,171
She's the mother of my child.
1626
01:26:18,138 --> 01:26:21,141
[Rattling continues]
1627
01:26:21,141 --> 01:26:27,077
♪♪
1628
01:26:27,077 --> 01:26:33,049
♪♪
1629
01:26:33,049 --> 01:26:34,361
[Static]
1630
01:26:34,361 --> 01:26:35,811
♪♪
1631
01:26:35,811 --> 01:26:37,192
-Great sequence
1632
01:26:37,192 --> 01:26:39,918
where Rick starts
to understand where he is,
1633
01:26:39,918 --> 01:26:41,817
thanks to Morgan and Duane
1634
01:26:41,817 --> 01:26:43,439
and their nightly visitation
1635
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:46,201
by the thing that used to be
a wife and mother.
1636
01:26:46,201 --> 01:26:48,202
And so we start to see
that this show
1637
01:26:48,202 --> 01:26:51,791
is gonna go places
that most zombie movies avoid.
1638
01:26:51,791 --> 01:26:53,242
But, Greg, I wanna ask you.
1639
01:26:53,242 --> 01:26:54,933
When they look out the window
1640
01:26:54,933 --> 01:26:58,661
and they see those walkers
shambling around on the street
1641
01:26:58,661 --> 01:27:00,145
and you see that
for the first time,
1642
01:27:00,145 --> 01:27:02,527
that just summons up everything
we're already familiar with
1643
01:27:02,527 --> 01:27:04,115
from the Romero movies,
you know?
1644
01:27:04,115 --> 01:27:06,531
Those are definitely
Romero zombies.
1645
01:27:06,531 --> 01:27:10,294
Now, were you guys ever tempted
to change your zombie behavior
1646
01:27:10,294 --> 01:27:12,296
just to be -- just to get away
1647
01:27:12,296 --> 01:27:14,952
from the original, you know,
template that he created?
1648
01:27:14,952 --> 01:27:18,818
-You know, Frank and I talked
about that at the beginning.
1649
01:27:18,818 --> 01:27:21,925
And honestly, we ended up
having zombie school.
1650
01:27:21,925 --> 01:27:24,687
-I know! You founded
Zombie Boot Camp, right?
1651
01:27:24,687 --> 01:27:26,379
-I founded zombie school.
1652
01:27:26,379 --> 01:27:30,762
And when we did season one,
we didn't have a lot of
1653
01:27:30,762 --> 01:27:33,282
opportunities to show clips
from "The Walking Dead"
1654
01:27:33,282 --> 01:27:35,008
because we hadn't shot
the episodes yet,
1655
01:27:35,008 --> 01:27:37,700
so we had clips from
"Night of the Living Dead,"
1656
01:27:37,700 --> 01:27:42,773
and we showed the scene of
Bill Heinzman in the cemetery
1657
01:27:42,773 --> 01:27:45,018
chasing Barbra
when she gets into the car.
1658
01:27:45,018 --> 01:27:47,192
So we had always looked at
"Night of the Living Dead"
1659
01:27:47,192 --> 01:27:49,402
as sort of like gospel.
1660
01:27:49,402 --> 01:27:54,199
And so the intention
was to, without a doubt,
1661
01:27:54,199 --> 01:27:57,168
lean into that mythology,
especially because --
1662
01:27:57,168 --> 01:28:01,759
You gotta figure "Walking Dead"
came out after "28 Days Later,"
1663
01:28:01,759 --> 01:28:04,416
after Zack Snyder's
"Dawn of the Dead,"
1664
01:28:04,416 --> 01:28:07,005
where zombies
had been energized.
1665
01:28:07,005 --> 01:28:09,870
"28 Days Later" technically
isn't a zombie movie.
1666
01:28:09,870 --> 01:28:11,389
It's Infected.
1667
01:28:11,389 --> 01:28:13,115
But the truth of the matter was
1668
01:28:13,115 --> 01:28:16,739
a lot of filmmakers
had adrenalized zombies,
1669
01:28:16,739 --> 01:28:19,155
and we really wanted
to go back to the classic.
1670
01:28:19,155 --> 01:28:20,812
-Pull it back
to the classic zombie.
1671
01:28:20,812 --> 01:28:23,539
Well, as the guy who did found
the Zombie Boot Camp
1672
01:28:23,539 --> 01:28:26,541
there in Georgia to provide
the need for millions
1673
01:28:26,541 --> 01:28:29,545
of trained zombie actors
that you use,
1674
01:28:29,545 --> 01:28:32,478
what do you tell
aspiring zombies
1675
01:28:32,478 --> 01:28:35,032
when they show up
to join the show?
1676
01:28:35,032 --> 01:28:37,967
-Well, there are several rules,
you know?
1677
01:28:37,967 --> 01:28:41,074
And I think the first thing
I said --
1678
01:28:41,074 --> 01:28:43,145
And George and I used to
talk about this.
1679
01:28:43,145 --> 01:28:46,630
If someone can nickname
your zombie walk,
1680
01:28:46,630 --> 01:28:49,841
then you're doing it
too consistently.
1681
01:28:49,841 --> 01:28:53,224
Like, if you walk like this,
you're doing Frankenstein.
1682
01:28:53,224 --> 01:28:55,571
You don't drag the leg,
'cause you're the mummy.
1683
01:28:55,571 --> 01:28:58,056
You know, we used to have people
that would just stomp around,
1684
01:28:58,056 --> 01:28:59,575
and we would call them the
1685
01:28:59,575 --> 01:29:01,750
"get the hell out of my yard"
zombie.
1686
01:29:01,750 --> 01:29:04,407
We would give people names.
-Yeah.
1687
01:29:04,407 --> 01:29:08,584
-The analogy that I always used
to use, ironically, would be --
1688
01:29:08,584 --> 01:29:10,724
I would say
it's like a marionette.
1689
01:29:10,724 --> 01:29:13,831
Like, you don't have control
of your limbs.
1690
01:29:13,831 --> 01:29:17,282
If you see somebody walking out
of a bar at 2:00 in the morning,
1691
01:29:17,282 --> 01:29:18,698
they think they're
walking straight,
1692
01:29:18,698 --> 01:29:20,251
but they don't have control,
1693
01:29:20,251 --> 01:29:22,909
so they kind of weave
in and out a little bit.
1694
01:29:22,909 --> 01:29:24,773
So it's always
that really sort of lack --
1695
01:29:24,773 --> 01:29:28,432
-Walk like you're drunk?
-Yeah. Walk like you're drunk.
1696
01:29:28,432 --> 01:29:31,434
-That lack of ability
1697
01:29:31,434 --> 01:29:33,471
to, like,
raise your arms or move.
1698
01:29:33,471 --> 01:29:35,266
So there's kind of a slackness
1699
01:29:35,266 --> 01:29:38,062
to the shoulders
and the jaw and the head.
1700
01:29:38,062 --> 01:29:40,064
-Well, also,
since you're the guy
1701
01:29:40,064 --> 01:29:43,550
who has probably spent more time
thinking about zombie physiology
1702
01:29:43,550 --> 01:29:45,897
than anybody on the planet,
1703
01:29:45,897 --> 01:29:48,693
do you -- do you invent
a back story for the zombie
1704
01:29:48,693 --> 01:29:51,972
before you do his skin
and his wounds and his clothing?
1705
01:29:51,972 --> 01:29:56,529
I mean, actually, you don't have
many naked zombies.
1706
01:29:56,529 --> 01:29:58,184
They tend to keep
their clothes on, right?
1707
01:29:58,184 --> 01:30:02,293
-Yeah, we've done a few.
We've done a few naked zombies.
1708
01:30:02,293 --> 01:30:05,675
I think the S&P
is always a little nervous
1709
01:30:05,675 --> 01:30:08,989
about -- more about nudity
than about the violence.
1710
01:30:08,989 --> 01:30:10,715
-Yeah. But do you have
back stories?
1711
01:30:10,715 --> 01:30:12,130
-Yeah. Sometimes.
1712
01:30:12,130 --> 01:30:14,788
You know, what's interesting --
and you can really see it
1713
01:30:14,788 --> 01:30:17,308
all over this first episode
of "Walking Dead" --
1714
01:30:17,308 --> 01:30:20,932
is that the set dressing
and the blood and everything,
1715
01:30:20,932 --> 01:30:22,139
it does tell a story.
1716
01:30:22,139 --> 01:30:23,521
When Rick's going
through the hospital
1717
01:30:23,521 --> 01:30:25,764
the first time, you see
the bullet holes in the wall,
1718
01:30:25,764 --> 01:30:29,251
you see the smears of blood
everywhere.
1719
01:30:29,251 --> 01:30:30,873
It tells a story.
1720
01:30:30,873 --> 01:30:35,706
So when we were doing the
zombie makeups in season one,
1721
01:30:35,706 --> 01:30:37,846
the one thing
that was important to me
1722
01:30:37,846 --> 01:30:41,746
always was that you can't
apply blood with a brush
1723
01:30:41,746 --> 01:30:43,610
or, like,
a little squeeze bottle.
1724
01:30:43,610 --> 01:30:47,338
There has to be some violence
inherent in the way
1725
01:30:47,338 --> 01:30:50,583
the blood would spray up
onto the face.
1726
01:30:50,583 --> 01:30:52,895
So you'd see spatters of blood.
1727
01:30:52,895 --> 01:30:56,623
So your audience,
by seeing that, imagines,
1728
01:30:56,623 --> 01:30:59,764
oh, if somebody got bit here,
the blood sprayed.
1729
01:30:59,764 --> 01:31:05,839
So we did a lot
in the early onset of this show
1730
01:31:05,839 --> 01:31:08,083
to tell a story
with just how you put the blood
1731
01:31:08,083 --> 01:31:10,326
on the individual makeup.
1732
01:31:10,326 --> 01:31:13,053
We've done gags
where there was somebody
1733
01:31:13,053 --> 01:31:15,918
that had been stabbed and died
1734
01:31:15,918 --> 01:31:19,197
and then turned into a walker
and starts walking around.
1735
01:31:19,197 --> 01:31:20,440
And then in one episode,
1736
01:31:20,440 --> 01:31:22,648
Rick grabs the knife
out of the zombie
1737
01:31:22,648 --> 01:31:24,237
and stabs it in the head.
1738
01:31:24,237 --> 01:31:25,996
It's like a portable weapon.
1739
01:31:25,996 --> 01:31:28,655
-Yeah. Okay.
Well, let's look at --
1740
01:31:28,655 --> 01:31:32,521
let's look at the evolution
of the movie zombie.
1741
01:31:32,521 --> 01:31:35,869
We have examples.
All zombies are not alike.
1742
01:31:35,869 --> 01:31:39,114
And the first one we have here
is where it all started,
1743
01:31:39,114 --> 01:31:40,978
the classic "Night
of the Living Dead" style.
1744
01:31:40,978 --> 01:31:42,911
What kind of zombie was that?
1745
01:31:42,911 --> 01:31:44,671
-Well, we're gonna go through.
1746
01:31:44,671 --> 01:31:48,606
This is the Romero
original-trilogy look.
1747
01:31:48,606 --> 01:31:54,025
So, a guy named Christian Hanson
sculpted this bust,
1748
01:31:54,025 --> 01:31:57,235
and if you watch the original
"Night of the Living Dead,"
1749
01:31:57,235 --> 01:31:59,410
basically it was pale makeup
1750
01:31:59,410 --> 01:32:01,723
with, like, dark circles
around their eyes, you know?
1751
01:32:01,723 --> 01:32:04,726
If I'm not mistaken, like...
-Wasn't much gore.
1752
01:32:04,726 --> 01:32:07,073
-No, There wasn't much gore,
you know?
1753
01:32:07,073 --> 01:32:09,316
Marilyn Eastman
and Karl Hardman,
1754
01:32:09,316 --> 01:32:12,181
who were two of the investors
in George's company
1755
01:32:12,181 --> 01:32:13,804
and actors in the movie,
1756
01:32:13,804 --> 01:32:15,150
they were the ones
doing the makeup.
1757
01:32:15,150 --> 01:32:17,842
They were, like,
paling people out.
1758
01:32:17,842 --> 01:32:20,776
So there wasn't a lot of gore
in the original movie.
1759
01:32:20,776 --> 01:32:23,192
I mean, there was maybe a couple
little trickles of blood
1760
01:32:23,192 --> 01:32:25,022
here and there,
but not a lot of gore.
1761
01:32:25,022 --> 01:32:28,025
-So it was more in the
performance than in the look.
1762
01:32:28,025 --> 01:32:30,027
-Yes.
-And then we have the --
1763
01:32:30,027 --> 01:32:33,133
what's called the blue-faced
"Dawn of the Dead" style
1764
01:32:33,133 --> 01:32:35,411
from 10 years later, 1978.
1765
01:32:35,411 --> 01:32:40,209
-So, this is -- Tom Savini
designed this particular makeup.
1766
01:32:40,209 --> 01:32:44,731
This zombie was actually one
that you see on the poster.
1767
01:32:44,731 --> 01:32:46,906
The poster of "Dawn of the Dead"
1768
01:32:46,906 --> 01:32:48,459
came from this
particular zombie,
1769
01:32:48,459 --> 01:32:50,737
which they call
the airport zombie.
1770
01:32:50,737 --> 01:32:55,121
But now you get into a lot
of three-dimensional wounds.
1771
01:32:55,121 --> 01:32:57,192
And, you know, the thing
about Tom Savini was --
1772
01:32:57,192 --> 01:32:58,849
He was a big --
1773
01:32:58,849 --> 01:33:01,886
You know, loved Lon Chaney.
Big fan of Dick Smith.
1774
01:33:01,886 --> 01:33:03,923
You know, Tom was the guy
in Pittsburgh
1775
01:33:03,923 --> 01:33:06,891
and still -- you know,
to this day, still lives there.
1776
01:33:06,891 --> 01:33:10,412
So he was able to sort of
1777
01:33:10,412 --> 01:33:13,311
lead the forefront of the wave,
1778
01:33:13,311 --> 01:33:15,934
the new wave of makeup effects
with "Dawn of the Dead."
1779
01:33:15,934 --> 01:33:17,799
-Okay.
-So he and George
1780
01:33:17,799 --> 01:33:19,317
really sort of just got together
1781
01:33:19,317 --> 01:33:20,871
and came up
with these crazy gags.
1782
01:33:20,871 --> 01:33:24,599
And a lot of the interest
about it was that Tom
1783
01:33:24,599 --> 01:33:25,841
was like a magician.
1784
01:33:25,841 --> 01:33:27,498
So they would use misdirection.
1785
01:33:27,498 --> 01:33:29,500
They'd get a screwdriver,
and you see
1786
01:33:29,500 --> 01:33:31,709
the guy getting stabbed
in the ear with a screwdriver.
1787
01:33:31,709 --> 01:33:34,332
And then they'd cut, and
they'd take a half screwdriver
1788
01:33:34,332 --> 01:33:36,093
and put a silver straw on there,
1789
01:33:36,093 --> 01:33:38,129
and they'd pump blood
through it.
1790
01:33:38,129 --> 01:33:40,097
So there was
a lot of misdirection.
1791
01:33:40,097 --> 01:33:42,996
George gave Tom
a lot of freedom.
1792
01:33:42,996 --> 01:33:45,827
So, in "Dawn of the Dead,"
they kind of went with
1793
01:33:45,827 --> 01:33:49,382
that sort of blue/gray makeup,
but there was a lot more gore.
1794
01:33:49,382 --> 01:33:52,696
There was a lot more blood
and wounds and things like that.
1795
01:33:52,696 --> 01:33:56,734
-And then zombies
became higher-fidelity
1796
01:33:56,734 --> 01:34:00,565
in 1985 with "Day of the Dead."
1797
01:34:00,565 --> 01:34:03,603
Now, is this Bub the Zombie?
The famous Bub the Zombie?
1798
01:34:03,603 --> 01:34:05,225
-This is Bub.
1799
01:34:05,225 --> 01:34:08,401
This was sculpted by a guy
named John Vulich,
1800
01:34:08,401 --> 01:34:10,127
played by Howard Sherman.
1801
01:34:10,127 --> 01:34:13,268
The first thing that we did --
I was one of the first people
1802
01:34:13,268 --> 01:34:16,719
hired by Tom Savini
on the crew.
1803
01:34:16,719 --> 01:34:19,999
And we started making
generic dentures for everybody.
1804
01:34:19,999 --> 01:34:24,831
So every -- almost every single
hero zombie in that movie
1805
01:34:24,831 --> 01:34:27,282
has dentures
because we wanted to --
1806
01:34:27,282 --> 01:34:29,629
-You wouldn't have had dentures
in 1978?
1807
01:34:29,629 --> 01:34:32,494
-No dentures, no contact lenses.
-Okay.
1808
01:34:32,494 --> 01:34:35,496
-Nothing. This was just makeup.
-Okay.
1809
01:34:35,496 --> 01:34:38,500
-But then when we got into
"Day of the Dead,"
1810
01:34:38,500 --> 01:34:40,467
we started using dentures
1811
01:34:40,467 --> 01:34:42,987
and we made them generically,
and they -
1812
01:34:42,987 --> 01:34:45,680
Like, the teeth were kind of
all crooked and yellow,
1813
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:47,785
and the gums were all gross.
1814
01:34:47,785 --> 01:34:49,373
And in a lot of instances,
1815
01:34:49,373 --> 01:34:51,271
because we had made them
generically,
1816
01:34:51,271 --> 01:34:53,618
if you put them into people,
it would push their lips out
1817
01:34:53,618 --> 01:34:55,550
and make them look
kind of strange.
1818
01:34:55,550 --> 01:34:58,106
But that was --
Every single zombie had,
1819
01:34:58,106 --> 01:35:00,418
in a lot of instances,
1820
01:35:00,418 --> 01:35:02,523
full facial prosthetics
that were covered.
1821
01:35:02,523 --> 01:35:04,250
It wasn't just like this one
1822
01:35:04,250 --> 01:35:07,356
where there's particular
little wounds here and there
1823
01:35:07,356 --> 01:35:09,358
and you see mostly
the actor's skin.
1824
01:35:09,358 --> 01:35:10,705
In "Day of the Dead,"
1825
01:35:10,705 --> 01:35:12,983
we really wanted
to push the envelope.
1826
01:35:12,983 --> 01:35:15,951
-So you're -- you're making
the zombies scarier
1827
01:35:15,951 --> 01:35:18,091
by making them more human.
1828
01:35:18,091 --> 01:35:20,128
-Well, we're making them
look more rotted
1829
01:35:20,128 --> 01:35:22,958
and more desiccated.
1830
01:35:22,958 --> 01:35:27,100
One of the things that's
always frightening is just,
1831
01:35:27,100 --> 01:35:30,034
you know, seeing that --
that things are decomposing.
1832
01:35:30,034 --> 01:35:33,520
It's just like -- It just looks
kind of nasty and gross.
1833
01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:35,384
-'Cause you're really --
'Cause subconsciously
1834
01:35:35,384 --> 01:35:37,214
you're thinking,
"someday, that'll be me."
1835
01:35:37,214 --> 01:35:40,493
-Yeah, yeah. That's
a very, very true statement
1836
01:35:40,493 --> 01:35:42,253
that George used to talk about
all the time,
1837
01:35:42,253 --> 01:35:44,566
was that
that's what we all become.
1838
01:35:44,566 --> 01:35:47,224
-Yeah.
So, can -- can you sum up
1839
01:35:47,224 --> 01:35:50,020
what's going on in the history
of zombie anatomy?
1840
01:35:50,020 --> 01:35:52,298
Is there -- Is there
an overriding philosophy
1841
01:35:52,298 --> 01:35:54,264
of how it should be done?
1842
01:35:54,264 --> 01:35:57,510
-Well, you know,
the overriding philosophy
1843
01:35:57,510 --> 01:36:02,135
is the more horrific
you want it to look,
1844
01:36:02,135 --> 01:36:04,448
you can add more blood,
because blood always has
1845
01:36:04,448 --> 01:36:07,416
an inherent shock value
when you see it.
1846
01:36:07,416 --> 01:36:11,973
But as these progress
technically,
1847
01:36:11,973 --> 01:36:13,802
they're visually
more interesting-looking
1848
01:36:13,802 --> 01:36:15,597
because you can see
the wrinkled skin
1849
01:36:15,597 --> 01:36:18,565
and you can see
the sunken-in eyes
1850
01:36:18,565 --> 01:36:19,843
and the cheekbones and stuff.
1851
01:36:19,843 --> 01:36:22,293
So there is definitely
an evolution.
1852
01:36:22,293 --> 01:36:26,263
Then once we hit "Walking Dead,"
it was dentures, contact lenses,
1853
01:36:26,263 --> 01:36:28,886
and we've sort of
continued to even,
1854
01:36:28,886 --> 01:36:31,337
you know, refine the process
even more.
1855
01:36:31,337 --> 01:36:33,235
-Right.
Do you guys sit around and go,
1856
01:36:33,235 --> 01:36:37,273
"Hey! You know what would be
really, really gross?"...
1857
01:36:37,273 --> 01:36:38,447
-Yeah.
1858
01:36:38,447 --> 01:36:39,932
-...and then try
to achieve that?
1859
01:36:39,932 --> 01:36:41,554
-Yeah, and, by the way,
the greatest
1860
01:36:41,554 --> 01:36:42,969
is when you're at a restaurant
1861
01:36:42,969 --> 01:36:47,422
and there's a table next to you
that doesn't know,
1862
01:36:47,422 --> 01:36:49,665
you know,
what you're talking about.
1863
01:36:49,665 --> 01:36:50,770
I worked on a movie once,
1864
01:36:50,770 --> 01:36:52,634
and I was sitting
with the director,
1865
01:36:52,634 --> 01:36:55,844
and there was a scene where
they -- a person gets killed
1866
01:36:55,844 --> 01:36:57,570
and they chop the body up
into pieces
1867
01:36:57,570 --> 01:36:59,330
and put it
in the trunk of a car.
1868
01:36:59,330 --> 01:37:01,987
And I'm sitting there
at The Daily Grill
1869
01:37:01,987 --> 01:37:03,438
in Los Angeles
with the director.
1870
01:37:03,438 --> 01:37:06,648
I'm like, "Okay. So how do you
want to kill this person?"
1871
01:37:06,648 --> 01:37:10,031
He's like, "I think an ax."
And I was like, "Okay.
1872
01:37:10,031 --> 01:37:13,897
So once we kill the person,
do they --
1873
01:37:13,897 --> 01:37:17,175
do you want to use
the ax to dismember the body?
1874
01:37:17,175 --> 01:37:18,693
And then where do we put it?"
1875
01:37:18,693 --> 01:37:21,249
And I look next to me,
and there's an old woman like...
1876
01:37:21,249 --> 01:37:23,009
[Laughter]
1877
01:37:23,009 --> 01:37:24,666
Like, there's slow-motion
food falling out.
1878
01:37:24,666 --> 01:37:27,324
I'm like -- They literally
thought that we were
1879
01:37:27,324 --> 01:37:29,257
planning a real murder.
-Oh, well.
1880
01:37:29,257 --> 01:37:31,293
Well, Greg, you were
actually responsible
1881
01:37:31,293 --> 01:37:33,709
for two gross-out effects
that get to me
1882
01:37:33,709 --> 01:37:36,022
every time that I watch them.
1883
01:37:36,022 --> 01:37:39,059
And, oddly enough,
they're not even that bloody.
1884
01:37:39,059 --> 01:37:41,234
We haven't talked
about your career very much,
1885
01:37:41,234 --> 01:37:42,925
probably because
we don't need to.
1886
01:37:42,925 --> 01:37:45,204
Our audience
is very familiar with you.
1887
01:37:45,204 --> 01:37:48,827
But actually
we talked a lot about you
1888
01:37:48,827 --> 01:37:50,519
when we were showing
"Bride of Re-Animator."
1889
01:37:50,519 --> 01:37:52,038
I don't know
if you saw that episode.
1890
01:37:52,038 --> 01:37:57,216
But you also did the effects
on "Green Mile," "Vanilla Sky,"
1891
01:37:57,216 --> 01:38:01,737
"Land of the Dead,
"Scream, "Pulp Fiction,"
1892
01:38:01,737 --> 01:38:04,809
"Transformers," "Sin City."
1893
01:38:04,809 --> 01:38:07,260
"Evil Dead II."
-Yeah.
1894
01:38:07,260 --> 01:38:10,367
-You won an Oscar
for "Chronicles of Narnia."
1895
01:38:10,367 --> 01:38:11,782
-We did. Our company won.
1896
01:38:11,782 --> 01:38:13,991
-Yeah.
You've worked with Spielberg.
1897
01:38:13,991 --> 01:38:15,648
You've worked
with John Carpenter.
1898
01:38:15,648 --> 01:38:17,063
You've worked with Wes Craven.
1899
01:38:17,063 --> 01:38:19,790
You've worked with Ridley Scott.
You worked with Rodriguez.
1900
01:38:19,790 --> 01:38:22,689
You're the go-to guy
for Quentin Tarantino.
1901
01:38:22,689 --> 01:38:24,760
I think he onlyworks
with you, right?
1902
01:38:24,760 --> 01:38:27,625
-Mm-hmm.
-But I'm gonna have you guess.
1903
01:38:27,625 --> 01:38:29,938
There must be people
who come up to you and say,
1904
01:38:29,938 --> 01:38:34,148
"Man alive, Greg. That effect
was just too intense."
1905
01:38:34,148 --> 01:38:35,875
And are there certain scenes
1906
01:38:35,875 --> 01:38:37,912
that people are normally
referring to when they say that?
1907
01:38:37,912 --> 01:38:39,430
-Yes.
-Okay.
1908
01:38:39,430 --> 01:38:44,021
-One scene
is in Scorsese's "Casino,"
1909
01:38:44,021 --> 01:38:47,128
where we -- Joe Pesci puts
a guy's head in a vise.
1910
01:38:47,128 --> 01:38:50,027
-Right! Oh, God, yes.
-And crushes the head.
1911
01:38:50,027 --> 01:38:54,411
And as he crushes the head,
the eyeball, pfft, pops out.
1912
01:38:54,411 --> 01:38:56,102
-Yeah. Okay.
1913
01:38:56,102 --> 01:39:01,210
-And I have had people walk out,
walk out of the theater.
1914
01:39:01,210 --> 01:39:03,592
And even in reviews,
they'll talk about it.
1915
01:39:03,592 --> 01:39:05,077
"Oh, they just went too far.
1916
01:39:05,077 --> 01:39:06,871
That's too much."
That's too much."
1917
01:39:06,871 --> 01:39:08,597
-But let me tell you my two.
-Okay.
1918
01:39:08,597 --> 01:39:11,566
-The first one
is when Kathy Bates
1919
01:39:11,566 --> 01:39:16,639
takes the sledgehammer to
James Caan's ankles in "Misery."
1920
01:39:16,639 --> 01:39:18,262
I don't know --
I don't know what you --
1921
01:39:18,262 --> 01:39:21,127
what I saw
or what I thought I saw.
1922
01:39:21,127 --> 01:39:24,337
But, you know, I just cringe.
I can't --
1923
01:39:24,337 --> 01:39:26,857
There are very few times
when I turn my eyes away,
1924
01:39:26,857 --> 01:39:28,410
but I turn my eyes away.
1925
01:39:28,410 --> 01:39:30,965
And then the second one
is cutting off the ear...
1926
01:39:30,965 --> 01:39:32,690
-"Reservoir Dogs."
-...in "Reservoir Dogs."
1927
01:39:32,690 --> 01:39:34,071
-That one I get a lot, too.
1928
01:39:34,071 --> 01:39:35,416
Well, here.
I have a great story.
1929
01:39:35,416 --> 01:39:40,215
So, when we did "Misery,"
we cast James Caan's legs,
1930
01:39:40,215 --> 01:39:44,806
and then we made gelatin legs
with breakable ankles
1931
01:39:44,806 --> 01:39:47,119
and then punched
all the hair in.
1932
01:39:47,119 --> 01:39:49,327
And I remember they broke for
lunch, and they're like, "Okay,
1933
01:39:49,327 --> 01:39:51,019
so, you guys --
We're gonna break for lunch.
1934
01:39:51,019 --> 01:39:52,607
Get the legs rigged up
1935
01:39:52,607 --> 01:39:54,919
'cause we're gonna
break them after lunch."
1936
01:39:54,919 --> 01:39:57,129
So, there were two holes
in the bed,
1937
01:39:57,129 --> 01:39:59,924
so his legs went through holes
in the bed,
1938
01:39:59,924 --> 01:40:02,168
and we attached the fake legs
'cause there was,
1939
01:40:02,168 --> 01:40:04,514
you know, blankets
and things covering stuff,
1940
01:40:04,514 --> 01:40:06,414
and they were all bandaged up.
1941
01:40:06,414 --> 01:40:09,657
So, Rob Reiner
came back from lunch,
1942
01:40:09,657 --> 01:40:11,695
and the first assistant director
was like,
1943
01:40:11,695 --> 01:40:13,869
"What are you guys doing?
You're supposed to be around."
1944
01:40:13,869 --> 01:40:16,320
Like, "Well, those
are the fake legs."
1945
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:19,116
'Cause they couldn't
tell the difference.
1946
01:40:19,116 --> 01:40:20,737
So, we had a cable --
1947
01:40:20,737 --> 01:40:22,671
So, the leg was secured
on the bed,
1948
01:40:22,671 --> 01:40:25,847
and then we could pull
the ankle with the cable.
1949
01:40:25,847 --> 01:40:27,883
Ckk! And that would --
that would do that.
1950
01:40:27,883 --> 01:40:30,990
So, we go to the cast/crew
screening.
1951
01:40:30,990 --> 01:40:34,718
And I'm sitting in the theater,
1952
01:40:34,718 --> 01:40:37,202
and Rob Reiner's sitting
right in front of me.
1953
01:40:37,202 --> 01:40:42,726
And I had a friend with me.
And I said, "Just do me a favor.
1954
01:40:42,726 --> 01:40:44,486
Don't embarrass me.
Don't scream."
1955
01:40:44,486 --> 01:40:46,385
'Cause this is -- It's --
1956
01:40:46,385 --> 01:40:47,972
I was like, "Rob Reiner's there.
1957
01:40:47,972 --> 01:40:49,974
Don't scream
in Rob Reiner's ear."
1958
01:40:49,974 --> 01:40:52,805
So, Kathy Bates lifts
the sledgehammer,
1959
01:40:52,805 --> 01:40:54,427
and she says, "God, I love you."
1960
01:40:54,427 --> 01:40:57,706
And the sledgehammer goes up.
She screams bloody murder.
1961
01:40:57,706 --> 01:41:00,639
And, like, everything
went into slow motion,
1962
01:41:00,639 --> 01:41:03,746
and I saw every head
in the movie theater go...
1963
01:41:03,746 --> 01:41:07,682
[Gasps] And recoil.
1964
01:41:07,682 --> 01:41:09,339
And then you see the first one,
1965
01:41:09,339 --> 01:41:11,030
and then you don't even see
the second ankle.
1966
01:41:11,030 --> 01:41:14,137
We shot it. We built both.
But you never even see it.
1967
01:41:14,137 --> 01:41:15,862
So, we walk out of the theater,
1968
01:41:15,862 --> 01:41:19,693
and Rob stops me, and he said,
1969
01:41:19,693 --> 01:41:21,558
"I've never felt the oxygen
1970
01:41:21,558 --> 01:41:25,182
disappear from a room
in my entire career."
1971
01:41:25,182 --> 01:41:27,011
-Was that the first time
it was shown?
1972
01:41:27,011 --> 01:41:28,565
-It was the cast/crew
screening.
1973
01:41:28,565 --> 01:41:31,982
So, like, it was the first time
that he had been in a room
1974
01:41:31,982 --> 01:41:34,433
with, you know, 300 people.
1975
01:41:34,433 --> 01:41:36,987
-Wow.
-And then with "Reservoir Dogs,"
1976
01:41:36,987 --> 01:41:38,989
you know, the thing
that nobody realizes
1977
01:41:38,989 --> 01:41:42,130
is you never see
the ear cut off.
1978
01:41:42,130 --> 01:41:44,753
You never physically see Mike...
1979
01:41:44,753 --> 01:41:47,135
The camera pans away.
1980
01:41:47,135 --> 01:41:51,139
And then Mike Madsen walks
into the shot holding the ear.
1981
01:41:51,139 --> 01:41:52,934
-Okay.
-But every single person
1982
01:41:52,934 --> 01:41:54,280
is convinced that they saw it.
1983
01:41:54,280 --> 01:41:56,282
-There must be a sound effect
or something
1984
01:41:56,282 --> 01:41:57,559
'cause I just get chills,
1985
01:41:57,559 --> 01:41:59,458
and I never look away
from the screen.
1986
01:41:59,458 --> 01:42:01,218
And I wouldn't know anyway
'cause I do look away
1987
01:42:01,218 --> 01:42:02,737
from the screen when that's on.
1988
01:42:02,737 --> 01:42:04,532
So, all right.
1989
01:42:04,532 --> 01:42:08,984
Well -- So you're a cruel man,
Greg, and we love that.
1990
01:42:08,984 --> 01:42:11,849
So let's get back
to the premiere episode
1991
01:42:11,849 --> 01:42:14,887
of "The Walking Dead."
Roll the film.
1992
01:42:14,887 --> 01:42:17,338
Have you watched
every zombie movie ever made?
1993
01:42:17,338 --> 01:42:21,963
-I've seen probably 98%
of the zombie movies.
1994
01:42:21,963 --> 01:42:25,760
Like, even newer stuff. You
know, "Train to Busan," I love.
1995
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:28,901
There's a great zombie series
called "Kingdom"
1996
01:42:28,901 --> 01:42:32,076
that's set in feudal China.
1997
01:42:32,076 --> 01:42:36,253
I'm always curious that --
people that continue
1998
01:42:36,253 --> 01:42:39,705
to make installments
into the zombie universe
1999
01:42:39,705 --> 01:42:42,225
and what their take on it is.
-Right.
2000
01:42:42,225 --> 01:42:44,779
-Because it's in my blood,
I guess.
2001
01:42:44,779 --> 01:42:46,469
-Right, right, right.
2002
01:42:46,469 --> 01:42:49,922
Do you think Mads Bellamy
was brilliant in White Zombie?
2003
01:42:49,922 --> 01:42:51,958
[Laughter]
2004
01:42:51,958 --> 01:42:53,995
-I would say yes.
2005
01:42:53,995 --> 01:42:56,549
-Okay. Can we quickly
go to the makeup-room cam?
2006
01:42:56,549 --> 01:42:57,723
-Oh, yeah.
-All right.
2007
01:42:57,723 --> 01:42:59,242
Did you set something up
in there?
2008
01:42:59,242 --> 01:43:01,244
-Yeah.
-All right.
2009
01:43:01,244 --> 01:43:05,420
Darcy, can you hear me?
How's it going in there?
2010
01:43:05,420 --> 01:43:07,250
-Great.
2011
01:43:07,250 --> 01:43:12,841
-Greg thinks Madge Bellamy
is a superstar!
2012
01:43:12,841 --> 01:43:15,189
-That's what you wanted
to tell me?
2013
01:43:15,189 --> 01:43:19,469
-Yeah. And a message for Carey.
2014
01:43:19,469 --> 01:43:21,712
More open wounds! Okay, Carey?
2015
01:43:21,712 --> 01:43:24,094
-Sounds good.
2016
01:43:24,094 --> 01:43:25,889
-I don't think they can hear me.
2017
01:43:25,889 --> 01:43:27,891
[Laughter]
2018
01:43:33,309 --> 01:43:35,519
[Hinges creak]
2019
01:43:41,629 --> 01:43:43,562
-Rick: Are we sure
they're dead?
2020
01:43:43,562 --> 01:43:46,910
I have to ask
at least one more time.
2021
01:43:46,910 --> 01:43:48,946
-Morgan: They dead,
2022
01:43:48,946 --> 01:43:51,052
except for something
in the brain.
2023
01:43:51,052 --> 01:43:53,227
That's why it's
got to be the head.
2024
01:43:59,750 --> 01:44:01,407
-[Hisses]
2025
01:44:01,407 --> 01:44:04,237
[Growling]
2026
01:44:06,688 --> 01:44:09,519
[Grunting]
2027
01:44:17,734 --> 01:44:19,425
-You all right?
2028
01:44:19,425 --> 01:44:20,771
-[Breathing shakily]
2029
01:44:20,771 --> 01:44:22,601
Need a moment.
2030
01:44:28,123 --> 01:44:31,126
-They're alive --
my wife and son.
2031
01:44:31,126 --> 01:44:33,094
At least they were
when they left.
2032
01:44:33,094 --> 01:44:34,647
-How can you know?
2033
01:44:34,647 --> 01:44:36,648
By the look of this place,
they --
2034
01:44:36,648 --> 01:44:39,100
-I found empty drawers
in the bedroom.
2035
01:44:39,100 --> 01:44:41,136
They packed some clothes --
not a lot,
2036
01:44:41,136 --> 01:44:42,483
but enough to travel.
2037
01:44:42,483 --> 01:44:44,312
-You know anybody
could've broken in here
2038
01:44:44,312 --> 01:44:46,728
and stole them clothes, right?
2039
01:44:46,728 --> 01:44:49,213
-You see the framed photos
on the walls?
2040
01:44:49,973 --> 01:44:51,353
Neither do I.
2041
01:44:51,353 --> 01:44:53,701
Some random thief
take those, too, you think?
2042
01:44:57,291 --> 01:45:00,603
Our photo albums,
family pictures -- all gone.
2043
01:45:02,019 --> 01:45:05,575
-Photo albums. [Laughs]
2044
01:45:09,820 --> 01:45:13,790
My wife -- same thing.
2045
01:45:13,790 --> 01:45:15,688
There I am
packing survival gear,
2046
01:45:15,688 --> 01:45:19,589
she's grabbing photo alb--
2047
01:45:23,075 --> 01:45:25,146
-They're in Atlanta, I bet.
2048
01:45:25,146 --> 01:45:27,597
-That's right.
2049
01:45:27,597 --> 01:45:30,427
-Why there?
-Morgan: Refugee center.
2050
01:45:30,427 --> 01:45:33,637
A huge one they said,
before the broadcast stopped.
2051
01:45:33,637 --> 01:45:36,813
Military protection,
food, shelter.
2052
01:45:36,813 --> 01:45:40,472
They told people to go there,
said it'd be safest.
2053
01:45:40,472 --> 01:45:42,612
-Duane: Plus they got
that disease place.
2054
01:45:42,612 --> 01:45:44,545
-The Center
for Disease Control.
2055
01:45:44,545 --> 01:45:47,341
Said they were working out
how to solve this thing.
2056
01:45:56,177 --> 01:45:57,627
[Lock clicks]
2057
01:46:14,816 --> 01:46:17,992
-Gas lines have been down
for maybe a month.
2058
01:46:17,992 --> 01:46:21,029
-Station's got
its own propane system.
2059
01:46:23,135 --> 01:46:25,379
Pilot's still on.
2060
01:46:27,311 --> 01:46:29,279
-Whoo-hoo!
-Oh, my Lord!
2061
01:46:29,279 --> 01:46:31,419
-Hot water!
-Ah!
2062
01:46:31,419 --> 01:46:33,387
That feels good, right?
2063
01:46:33,387 --> 01:46:35,009
-[Laughs]
-♪ Bring it around, bring it ♪
2064
01:46:35,009 --> 01:46:36,735
♪ Bring it, bring it,
bring it around, uh! ♪
2065
01:46:36,735 --> 01:46:41,291
Yeah. I'm wet.
Take that. What? Whoo!
2066
01:46:44,294 --> 01:46:46,675
-Duane.
2067
01:46:46,675 --> 01:46:49,403
Dressing room back there.
2068
01:46:49,403 --> 01:46:51,370
-What you say, Duane?
2069
01:46:51,370 --> 01:46:53,545
-Thank you.
2070
01:46:53,545 --> 01:46:55,409
-Mm-hmm.
2071
01:46:57,963 --> 01:47:00,655
-Atlanta sounds like
a good deal.
2072
01:47:00,655 --> 01:47:04,314
Safer anyway. People.
2073
01:47:04,314 --> 01:47:07,800
-That's where we were headed.
Things got crazy.
2074
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:10,251
Man, you wouldn't believe
the panic.
2075
01:47:10,251 --> 01:47:12,253
Streets weren't fit to be on.
2076
01:47:12,253 --> 01:47:13,841
And then...
2077
01:47:15,255 --> 01:47:18,915
My wife couldn't travel,
not with our herd,
2078
01:47:18,915 --> 01:47:21,469
so we had to find a place
to lay low.
2079
01:47:21,469 --> 01:47:26,163
And then after she died...
2080
01:47:26,163 --> 01:47:28,130
we just stayed hunkered down.
2081
01:47:30,547 --> 01:47:34,137
I guess we just froze in place.
2082
01:47:34,137 --> 01:47:35,897
-Plan to move on?
2083
01:47:39,728 --> 01:47:41,764
-Haven't worked up to it yet.
2084
01:47:49,704 --> 01:47:52,844
-A lot of it's gone missing.
2085
01:47:52,844 --> 01:47:55,916
-Daddy, can I learn to shoot?
I'm old enough.
2086
01:47:55,916 --> 01:47:57,540
-Hell yes, you're gonna learn.
2087
01:47:57,540 --> 01:47:59,852
But we gotta do it carefully,
teach you to respect the weapon.
2088
01:47:59,852 --> 01:48:02,165
-That's right. It's not a toy.
2089
01:48:02,165 --> 01:48:03,925
You pull the trigger,
you have to mean it.
2090
01:48:03,925 --> 01:48:06,721
Always remember that, Duane.
-Yes, sir.
2091
01:48:09,034 --> 01:48:11,554
-Here.
2092
01:48:11,554 --> 01:48:13,416
Load up.
2093
01:48:18,008 --> 01:48:20,666
-You take that one.
Nothing fancy.
2094
01:48:20,666 --> 01:48:22,737
The scope's accurate.
2095
01:48:35,300 --> 01:48:37,062
Conserve your ammo.
2096
01:48:37,062 --> 01:48:40,548
Goes faster than you think,
especially at target practice.
2097
01:48:42,239 --> 01:48:44,103
-Duane.
-Uh-huh?
2098
01:48:44,103 --> 01:48:46,071
-Take this to the car.
-Okay.
2099
01:48:46,071 --> 01:48:48,969
-Are you sure
you won't come along?
2100
01:48:48,969 --> 01:48:50,454
-A few more days.
2101
01:48:50,454 --> 01:48:52,146
By then,
Duane will know how to shoot,
2102
01:48:52,146 --> 01:48:54,010
and I won't be so rusty.
2103
01:48:59,429 --> 01:49:01,293
[Walkie-talkie clicks, whines]
2104
01:49:01,293 --> 01:49:03,398
-You've got one battery.
2105
01:49:03,398 --> 01:49:05,746
I'll turn mine on a few minutes
every day at dawn.
2106
01:49:05,746 --> 01:49:08,714
You get up there,
that's how you'll find me.
2107
01:49:08,714 --> 01:49:11,717
-You think ahead.
-Can't afford not to.
2108
01:49:11,717 --> 01:49:14,617
Not anymore.
-Morgan: Listen. One thing.
2109
01:49:14,617 --> 01:49:16,929
They may not seem
like much one at a time,
2110
01:49:16,929 --> 01:49:19,725
but in a group,
all riled up and hungry --
2111
01:49:19,725 --> 01:49:22,556
Man, you watch your ass.
-You too.
2112
01:49:24,558 --> 01:49:25,869
-You're a good man, Rick.
2113
01:49:25,869 --> 01:49:27,906
I hope you find
your wife and son.
2114
01:49:30,874 --> 01:49:32,773
-Be seeing you, Duane.
2115
01:49:32,773 --> 01:49:35,291
Take care of your old man.
-Yes, sir.
2116
01:49:39,987 --> 01:49:41,989
[Walker snarling]
2117
01:49:46,062 --> 01:49:47,960
-Leon Basset?
2118
01:49:51,791 --> 01:49:54,103
Didn't think much of him --
2119
01:49:54,103 --> 01:49:57,038
careless and dumb -- but...
2120
01:49:57,038 --> 01:49:59,454
I can't leave him like this.
2121
01:49:59,454 --> 01:50:01,974
-[Growls]
2122
01:50:01,974 --> 01:50:04,080
-You know they'll hear the shot.
2123
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:06,082
-Let's not be here
when they show up.
2124
01:50:06,082 --> 01:50:08,567
-Let's go, son. Come on.
2125
01:50:11,225 --> 01:50:14,746
[Car doors open]
2126
01:50:14,746 --> 01:50:16,195
[Doors close]
2127
01:50:16,195 --> 01:50:19,302
-[Snarling]
2128
01:50:19,302 --> 01:50:21,130
[Gun cocks]
2129
01:50:24,514 --> 01:50:26,240
[Gunshot echoes]
2130
01:50:39,529 --> 01:50:42,152
[Horn honks]
2131
01:50:42,152 --> 01:50:44,568
[Siren chirps]
2132
01:50:44,568 --> 01:50:47,088
[Flagpole dinging]
2133
01:50:55,889 --> 01:51:03,587
♪♪
2134
01:51:03,587 --> 01:51:11,285
♪♪
2135
01:51:11,285 --> 01:51:13,011
[Engine shuts off]
2136
01:51:13,011 --> 01:51:22,537
♪♪
2137
01:51:22,537 --> 01:51:32,064
♪♪
2138
01:51:32,064 --> 01:51:41,625
♪♪
2139
01:51:41,625 --> 01:51:45,629
-Read your comic books a while.
Daddy will be upstairs.
2140
01:51:45,629 --> 01:51:54,466
♪♪
2141
01:51:54,466 --> 01:52:03,371
♪♪
2142
01:52:03,371 --> 01:52:12,173
♪♪
2143
01:52:12,173 --> 01:52:21,044
♪♪
2144
01:52:21,044 --> 01:52:29,880
♪♪
2145
01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:38,682
♪♪
2146
01:52:38,682 --> 01:52:47,519
♪♪
2147
01:52:47,519 --> 01:52:56,355
♪♪
2148
01:52:56,355 --> 01:53:05,261
♪♪
2149
01:53:05,261 --> 01:53:14,097
♪♪
2150
01:53:14,097 --> 01:53:15,789
[Groaning]
2151
01:53:15,789 --> 01:53:23,934
♪♪
2152
01:53:23,934 --> 01:53:26,282
[Groaning]
2153
01:53:26,282 --> 01:53:34,566
♪♪
2154
01:53:34,566 --> 01:53:35,705
[Whistles]
2155
01:53:40,192 --> 01:53:42,677
[Gunshot]
2156
01:53:42,677 --> 01:53:44,748
[Casing rattles]
2157
01:53:44,748 --> 01:53:47,027
-[Wheezing]
2158
01:53:47,027 --> 01:53:48,648
-Daddy?!
2159
01:53:48,648 --> 01:53:51,376
-It's all right, Duane!
You stay there, son!
2160
01:53:51,376 --> 01:53:52,755
Don't you come up here!
2161
01:53:52,755 --> 01:54:00,143
♪♪
2162
01:54:00,143 --> 01:54:03,975
-[Muttering]
2163
01:54:03,975 --> 01:54:12,984
♪♪
2164
01:54:12,984 --> 01:54:14,709
[Gunshot]
2165
01:54:14,709 --> 01:54:18,886
♪♪
2166
01:54:18,886 --> 01:54:21,889
Jenny.
2167
01:54:21,889 --> 01:54:24,029
Come on, baby.
2168
01:54:24,029 --> 01:54:28,171
♪♪
2169
01:54:28,171 --> 01:54:30,001
[Groaning]
2170
01:54:30,001 --> 01:54:38,077
♪♪
2171
01:54:38,077 --> 01:54:46,120
♪♪
2172
01:54:46,120 --> 01:54:48,019
[Groaning weakly]
2173
01:54:48,019 --> 01:54:54,473
♪♪
2174
01:54:54,473 --> 01:54:57,028
-I'm sorry this happened to you.
2175
01:54:57,028 --> 01:55:02,757
♪♪
2176
01:55:02,757 --> 01:55:08,418
♪♪
2177
01:55:08,418 --> 01:55:10,455
[Gunshot]
2178
01:55:10,455 --> 01:55:17,600
♪♪
2179
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:19,429
[Walkers snarling]
2180
01:55:19,429 --> 01:55:25,884
♪♪
2181
01:55:25,884 --> 01:55:28,128
[Breathes shakily]
2182
01:55:28,128 --> 01:55:35,825
♪♪
2183
01:55:35,825 --> 01:55:43,522
♪♪
2184
01:55:43,522 --> 01:55:51,289
♪♪
2185
01:55:51,289 --> 01:55:53,670
[Crying] Come on.
2186
01:55:53,670 --> 01:55:58,916
♪♪
2187
01:55:58,916 --> 01:56:00,746
Come on.
2188
01:56:00,746 --> 01:56:08,962
♪♪
2189
01:56:08,962 --> 01:56:17,210
♪♪
2190
01:56:17,210 --> 01:56:19,248
[Grunts]
2191
01:56:19,248 --> 01:56:21,491
[Sobbing]
2192
01:56:21,491 --> 01:56:30,397
♪♪
2193
01:56:30,397 --> 01:56:39,199
♪♪
2194
01:56:40,579 --> 01:56:42,029
-So, Greg, you just told me
2195
01:56:42,029 --> 01:56:44,514
that this is your favorite part
of the premiere episode,
2196
01:56:44,514 --> 01:56:50,244
where Rick goes back
to the half-woman in the park
2197
01:56:50,244 --> 01:56:53,213
and Morgan is trying to --
2198
01:56:53,213 --> 01:56:58,804
He's trying to do euthanasia
on his wife.
2199
01:56:58,804 --> 01:57:01,117
But he can't --
He can't bring himself to do it.
2200
01:57:01,117 --> 01:57:04,568
And they're intercutting
between those two things.
2201
01:57:04,568 --> 01:57:08,090
Show me -- This is --
We have here your work
2202
01:57:08,090 --> 01:57:09,677
on what's called
the Bicycle Girl,
2203
01:57:09,677 --> 01:57:15,269
which is the -- which is the
zombie that was shot by Rick.
2204
01:57:15,269 --> 01:57:18,237
Explain the -- the process
that you were using here.
2205
01:57:18,237 --> 01:57:22,414
-So, this was one of the things
that was most important to us
2206
01:57:22,414 --> 01:57:26,693
to sort of delineate our zombies
from -- from other zombies.
2207
01:57:26,693 --> 01:57:28,662
So, this is a live cast
of the actress.
2208
01:57:28,662 --> 01:57:30,491
This is a girl named
Melissa Cowan,
2209
01:57:30,491 --> 01:57:33,632
so this is what her face
looked like.
2210
01:57:33,632 --> 01:57:35,807
And then this is the sculpture
2211
01:57:35,807 --> 01:57:39,535
that was done by a sculptor
named Jaremy Aiello.
2212
01:57:39,535 --> 01:57:43,918
So, what we did was we actually
made the teeth first,
2213
01:57:43,918 --> 01:57:46,887
and the teeth fit
overtop of the lips.
2214
01:57:46,887 --> 01:57:48,751
So you can see
from the sculpture,
2215
01:57:48,751 --> 01:57:51,960
we were able to pull the lips
away from the teeth,
2216
01:57:51,960 --> 01:57:53,755
which I think
is kind of a signature
2217
01:57:53,755 --> 01:57:55,378
"Walking Dead" look.
2218
01:57:55,378 --> 01:57:58,347
Now, even though technically
it's only been six weeks
2219
01:57:58,347 --> 01:58:01,591
since the zombie apocalypse
happened in the show,
2220
01:58:01,591 --> 01:58:04,456
since she was in the sun,
2221
01:58:04,456 --> 01:58:07,252
lying in this park
for six weeks,
2222
01:58:07,252 --> 01:58:12,844
we went with this sort of,
like, rotten-pumpkin texture
2223
01:58:12,844 --> 01:58:14,673
where she was just getting beat
by the sun.
2224
01:58:14,673 --> 01:58:18,850
That's why -- That's why
we have all the decomposition.
2225
01:58:18,850 --> 01:58:21,439
And then the last --
the last bust on the corner
2226
01:58:21,439 --> 01:58:23,544
is what the end result
looked like.
2227
01:58:23,544 --> 01:58:25,443
So, she had dentures in.
2228
01:58:25,443 --> 01:58:27,721
We did the prosthetic
makeup on her face.
2229
01:58:27,721 --> 01:58:29,240
She had contact lenses.
2230
01:58:29,240 --> 01:58:31,103
And there was four of us.
2231
01:58:31,103 --> 01:58:33,692
It was two hours
to do her whole body.
2232
01:58:33,692 --> 01:58:37,075
-And so you kind of sculpted
all this around her face?
2233
01:58:37,075 --> 01:58:39,181
-Yeah. This is what
we started with.
2234
01:58:39,181 --> 01:58:41,010
And then we had a chest piece.
2235
01:58:41,010 --> 01:58:43,012
And originally
what we were gonna do
2236
01:58:43,012 --> 01:58:45,463
is we were gonna
dig a hole in the ground
2237
01:58:45,463 --> 01:58:47,706
and we were gonna hide her legs.
2238
01:58:47,706 --> 01:58:50,951
And so we had the prosthetic
piece, like an old magic trick,
2239
01:58:50,951 --> 01:58:54,264
that would look like
that's where her legs were.
2240
01:58:54,264 --> 01:58:55,818
And during
the production meeting,
2241
01:58:55,818 --> 01:58:57,820
Greg Melton,
the production designer, said,
2242
01:58:57,820 --> 01:59:00,823
"Well, you can't dig a hole in
the ground. It's a public park."
2243
01:59:00,823 --> 01:59:03,170
So we ended up
modifying the prosthetic,
2244
01:59:03,170 --> 01:59:06,311
and she wore green leggings,
2245
01:59:06,311 --> 01:59:09,142
and the visual-effects people
erased her legs.
2246
01:59:09,142 --> 01:59:12,179
-Oh, okay.
-But interestingly enough,
2247
01:59:12,179 --> 01:59:15,976
when "The Walking Dead"
was being promoted by AMC,
2248
01:59:15,976 --> 01:59:20,014
the first picture that was ever
released was a photo of her.
2249
01:59:20,014 --> 01:59:22,500
-Well, I think everyone
remembers that moment
2250
01:59:22,500 --> 01:59:26,504
and I think mostly
because of the compassion
2251
01:59:26,504 --> 01:59:28,299
that you see in Rick saying,
2252
01:59:28,299 --> 01:59:30,508
"I'm sorry
this happened to you."
2253
01:59:30,508 --> 01:59:33,925
You know, what I like about
Andrew Lincoln's performance
2254
01:59:33,925 --> 01:59:37,480
as Rick is how controlled it is.
2255
01:59:37,480 --> 01:59:39,102
He has that one moment
2256
01:59:39,102 --> 01:59:40,794
where he slaps himself
in the head,
2257
01:59:40,794 --> 01:59:43,314
you know, but it passes
'cause he's a cop.
2258
01:59:43,314 --> 01:59:46,627
He's -- He's trained
to do one task at a time.
2259
01:59:46,627 --> 01:59:48,974
So Rick is headed
into the new world.
2260
01:59:48,974 --> 01:59:51,356
Morgan is still tied
to the old world.
2261
01:59:51,356 --> 01:59:52,840
He can't put his wife down.
2262
01:59:52,840 --> 01:59:57,155
You know, he's still making sure
his son says "thank you"
2263
01:59:57,155 --> 01:59:59,537
and is polite to everyone,
and he's still --
2264
01:59:59,537 --> 02:00:01,228
They're still saying a prayer
every night.
2265
02:00:01,228 --> 02:00:03,437
They're still thinking
there's some way to go back
2266
02:00:03,437 --> 02:00:05,301
to the way the world used to be.
2267
02:00:05,301 --> 02:00:06,958
And every time
a zombie gets killed,
2268
02:00:06,958 --> 02:00:10,203
for whatever reason,
it's kind of a release.
2269
02:00:10,203 --> 02:00:13,827
It's kind of an emotional
safety valve for everyone.
2270
02:00:13,827 --> 02:00:16,105
And, Greg, I have to say
one thing you do
2271
02:00:16,105 --> 02:00:17,417
in quite a few episodes
2272
02:00:17,417 --> 02:00:22,249
is you use those rifles
with scopes on them.
2273
02:00:22,249 --> 02:00:24,286
So, you get the zombies
in the crosshairs,
2274
02:00:24,286 --> 02:00:25,942
and they shoot them
in the head.
2275
02:00:25,942 --> 02:00:27,910
And there's no cutaway.
There's no edit.
2276
02:00:27,910 --> 02:00:29,739
You apparently
have actors out there
2277
02:00:29,739 --> 02:00:31,396
with exploded heads
or something.
2278
02:00:31,396 --> 02:00:34,296
So -- [ Laughs ]
How do you do that?
2279
02:00:34,296 --> 02:00:38,541
-There's a -- There's
a great rig that we built
2280
02:00:38,541 --> 02:00:43,097
that is sort of like a little
funnel that we fill with blood,
2281
02:00:43,097 --> 02:00:45,134
and then it's hidden
in their wardrobe
2282
02:00:45,134 --> 02:00:46,998
or in their clothes
behind them.
2283
02:00:46,998 --> 02:00:51,934
So, in that particular scope
shot, the performer walks in,
2284
02:00:51,934 --> 02:00:54,074
and he's got a tube
sort of dragging out
2285
02:00:54,074 --> 02:00:56,594
the bottom of his pant leg
that you can't see
2286
02:00:56,594 --> 02:01:00,391
because we wanted
that explosive vibe.
2287
02:01:00,391 --> 02:01:02,358
So, we didn't want
to put a squib on them.
2288
02:01:02,358 --> 02:01:04,222
I mean, you could have
just put a squib there
2289
02:01:04,222 --> 02:01:06,189
and blown the squib up.
2290
02:01:06,189 --> 02:01:08,813
-But it looks like the head,
like, flies apart.
2291
02:01:08,813 --> 02:01:10,677
-Yeah. Well, we built --
2292
02:01:10,677 --> 02:01:15,475
we built multiple versions
of these particular --
2293
02:01:15,475 --> 02:01:16,924
these particular gags.
2294
02:01:16,924 --> 02:01:18,547
And some of them,
it's compressed air.
2295
02:01:18,547 --> 02:01:21,032
You just fill a fake head,
2296
02:01:21,032 --> 02:01:23,310
you pre-score it,
and you cut it apart,
2297
02:01:23,310 --> 02:01:26,279
and then you close it back up,
and there's a tube in there,
2298
02:01:26,279 --> 02:01:29,005
and you hit a button, and then
it just blows it to pieces.
2299
02:01:29,005 --> 02:01:32,146
-Okay. Well, we're about to see
the concluding set piece,
2300
02:01:32,146 --> 02:01:35,080
which is a famous sequence
in which Rick rides into Atlanta
2301
02:01:35,080 --> 02:01:38,946
on a horse and proceeds
to fend off hundreds of walkers.
2302
02:01:38,946 --> 02:01:41,397
Now, how --
how many are on your crew
2303
02:01:41,397 --> 02:01:45,505
when you have a huge zombie
attack scene like that?
2304
02:01:45,505 --> 02:01:48,197
-I think we had --
There were 200 people
2305
02:01:48,197 --> 02:01:49,440
when we shot that scene.
2306
02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:52,443
We had 200 people in makeup.
2307
02:01:52,443 --> 02:01:55,342
We had a few
background zombie masks,
2308
02:01:55,342 --> 02:01:59,415
but most of it
was people in makeup.
2309
02:01:59,415 --> 02:02:02,418
So, I think I had
11 makeup artists,
2310
02:02:02,418 --> 02:02:05,214
and when we shot
the first season,
2311
02:02:05,214 --> 02:02:07,492
we were shooting
on a shifted schedule.
2312
02:02:07,492 --> 02:02:09,183
So we would shoot
Wednesday, Thursday,
2313
02:02:09,183 --> 02:02:10,771
Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
2314
02:02:10,771 --> 02:02:14,706
So, on the weekends, they would
close sections of Atlanta down,
2315
02:02:14,706 --> 02:02:16,294
and then they would bring
the tank in
2316
02:02:16,294 --> 02:02:18,848
and they would dress it
to make it look like
2317
02:02:18,848 --> 02:02:20,609
it had been abandoned.
2318
02:02:20,609 --> 02:02:23,197
So we would shoot --
Saturdays and Sundays
2319
02:02:23,197 --> 02:02:24,854
would be our big zombie days.
2320
02:02:24,854 --> 02:02:30,032
-And so you have 11 people
running around, you know.
2321
02:02:30,032 --> 02:02:31,654
"More blood on this zombie.
More..."
2322
02:02:31,654 --> 02:02:33,000
You know, "Come over here.
2323
02:02:33,000 --> 02:02:36,935
This zombie's losing
his prosthetic or whatever."
2324
02:02:36,935 --> 02:02:38,903
-Yeah.
-All day long?
2325
02:02:38,903 --> 02:02:41,595
-I think we would --
we would get home from work
2326
02:02:41,595 --> 02:02:44,909
at about 10:00 at night,
and then at 4:00 a.m.,
2327
02:02:44,909 --> 02:02:47,877
we would go back
and start it all over again
2328
02:02:47,877 --> 02:02:49,914
because it would take
a good amount of time
2329
02:02:49,914 --> 02:02:51,985
to get all those people
through makeup.
2330
02:02:51,985 --> 02:02:54,332
And then when the crew wraps
and everybody goes home,
2331
02:02:54,332 --> 02:02:56,369
you got to clean
all those people up.
2332
02:02:56,369 --> 02:02:58,232
-And have all 200
of those people
2333
02:02:58,232 --> 02:03:00,476
been through zombie school?
-Yeah.
2334
02:03:00,476 --> 02:03:03,134
-Okay. So they know what they
can do and what they can't do.
2335
02:03:03,134 --> 02:03:06,931
-We had to even think
about stuff like --
2336
02:03:06,931 --> 02:03:09,589
There were a few people
that were barefoot.
2337
02:03:09,589 --> 02:03:13,006
We had to put neoprene
on the bottoms of their feet
2338
02:03:13,006 --> 02:03:15,042
because the concrete was so hot
2339
02:03:15,042 --> 02:03:16,941
that they were
burning their feet.
2340
02:03:16,941 --> 02:03:19,771
Or if somebody fell
on the ground, you know --
2341
02:03:19,771 --> 02:03:23,050
At the end of --
At the end of season one,
2342
02:03:23,050 --> 02:03:24,673
when they get to the CDC
2343
02:03:24,673 --> 02:03:26,260
and they find all the --
2344
02:03:26,260 --> 02:03:29,678
There's 200 dead bodies.
We had people lying there.
2345
02:03:29,678 --> 02:03:33,958
We had to put reflective, like,
sun blankets underneath them
2346
02:03:33,958 --> 02:03:35,787
because the ground was so hot.
2347
02:03:35,787 --> 02:03:39,135
Because it was -- it was,
you know, July in Georgia.
2348
02:03:39,135 --> 02:03:40,861
-In Georgia. All right, Greg,
2349
02:03:40,861 --> 02:03:43,174
I want you to come back
for our second feature,
2350
02:03:43,174 --> 02:03:45,832
which is episode two
of "The Walking Dead."
2351
02:03:45,832 --> 02:03:48,179
How many episodes are there?
You remember?
2352
02:03:48,179 --> 02:03:52,735
-I think we're around 150.
2353
02:03:52,735 --> 02:03:54,150
-Okay.
2354
02:03:54,150 --> 02:03:56,877
Somebody did a calculation
of how long it would take you
2355
02:03:56,877 --> 02:03:59,535
to binge-watch
"The Walking Dead"
2356
02:03:59,535 --> 02:04:01,330
if you didn't go to sleep.
2357
02:04:01,330 --> 02:04:03,781
5 days, 11 hours.
2358
02:04:03,781 --> 02:04:05,161
And see?
2359
02:04:05,161 --> 02:04:08,061
Here's the dangerous thing
of me talking about this.
2360
02:04:08,061 --> 02:04:10,201
Now that I said that --
-Somebody'll do it.
2361
02:04:10,201 --> 02:04:12,306
-I shouldn't have said that
because we have
2362
02:04:12,306 --> 02:04:13,756
such weird fans of this show,
2363
02:04:13,756 --> 02:04:17,173
that some guy in the panhandle
of Texas went, "Hell, yes!
2364
02:04:17,173 --> 02:04:19,072
I know how I'm spending
next week!"
2365
02:04:19,072 --> 02:04:20,625
You know? Because --
2366
02:04:20,625 --> 02:04:23,421
"Hey, Cletus, you know,
how much Ritalin and Adderall
2367
02:04:23,421 --> 02:04:26,873
can you get me from
over in North Lubbock?"
2368
02:04:26,873 --> 02:04:29,082
Is there any --
Is there any episode of the show
2369
02:04:29,082 --> 02:04:31,636
that you have not worked on
2370
02:04:31,636 --> 02:04:34,536
over the past 11 years
of doing the show?
2371
02:04:34,536 --> 02:04:36,296
-No.
-You've worked on every show.
2372
02:04:36,296 --> 02:04:40,024
-I've been in the trenches.
I've been down in Georgia.
2373
02:04:40,024 --> 02:04:42,405
You know, I haven't been on set
for every single day
2374
02:04:42,405 --> 02:04:45,719
because a lot of times, like,
if I'm directing, I'm not on --
2375
02:04:45,719 --> 02:04:48,791
If I'm in prep, I'm not on set
for that episode that's shooting
2376
02:04:48,791 --> 02:04:50,862
and then I go to L.A. and edit.
2377
02:04:50,862 --> 02:04:55,660
But in terms of
my day-to-day involvement,
2378
02:04:55,660 --> 02:04:59,388
you know,
I am proud of what we've done
2379
02:04:59,388 --> 02:05:01,528
and what we continue to do
on the show.
2380
02:05:01,528 --> 02:05:04,911
And if there is somebody that's
going to watch all episodes
2381
02:05:04,911 --> 02:05:06,429
for five days,
2382
02:05:06,429 --> 02:05:09,916
you need a time-lapse camera
in there someplace to just --
2383
02:05:09,916 --> 02:05:12,297
watch them turn into whatever
they're gonna turn in.
2384
02:05:12,297 --> 02:05:14,714
-Oh, yeah, we want to see that.
Yes. Send that in.
2385
02:05:14,714 --> 02:05:18,062
All right. Well, I know you have
important phone calls to make
2386
02:05:18,062 --> 02:05:20,547
because we're in the middle of
the third season of "Creepshow,"
2387
02:05:20,547 --> 02:05:24,517
so you're getting all kinds
of accolades for "Creepshow."
2388
02:05:24,517 --> 02:05:28,106
What would it take
to get Andrew Lincoln
2389
02:05:28,106 --> 02:05:29,487
for an episode of "Creepshow"?
2390
02:05:29,487 --> 02:05:31,903
-Andrew was down, actually.
2391
02:05:31,903 --> 02:05:34,734
We shot an episode
for season two,
2392
02:05:34,734 --> 02:05:37,046
which became our holiday special
2393
02:05:37,046 --> 02:05:39,324
called
"Shapeshifters Anonymous,"
2394
02:05:39,324 --> 02:05:42,120
and it was about
a support group for people
2395
02:05:42,120 --> 02:05:46,539
that turn into werewolves
or animals or creatures.
2396
02:05:46,539 --> 02:05:50,750
And it's -- it's really
a completely outrageous
2397
02:05:50,750 --> 02:05:52,406
and super-fun episode,
2398
02:05:52,406 --> 02:05:56,514
and he was going to play
Evil Santa Claus.
2399
02:05:56,514 --> 02:05:58,896
Yeah?
-And he was down to do it.
2400
02:05:58,896 --> 02:06:03,245
And then this kind of world
sort of
2401
02:06:03,245 --> 02:06:05,419
took a little bit of a left turn
for a while,
2402
02:06:05,419 --> 02:06:09,113
and he couldn't travel
at that particular time.
2403
02:06:09,113 --> 02:06:10,632
And then, you know,
2404
02:06:10,632 --> 02:06:12,634
we had actually talked
to Michael Cudlitz
2405
02:06:12,634 --> 02:06:14,739
because Michael Cudlitz
was going to do it,
2406
02:06:14,739 --> 02:06:17,224
and then he got cast
in "Clarice."
2407
02:06:17,224 --> 02:06:19,606
So, you know, it's --
2408
02:06:19,606 --> 02:06:21,988
And then, of course, I --
You know, I mean, like --
2409
02:06:21,988 --> 02:06:25,439
Jeffrey Dean Morgan is --
And Norman are always like,
2410
02:06:25,439 --> 02:06:26,751
"Hey. Wait a minute.
Why don't you --
2411
02:06:26,751 --> 02:06:28,891
Why don't you put me
in an episode of 'Creepshow'?"
2412
02:06:28,891 --> 02:06:33,447
And Michael Rooker stars
in a season-three episode.
2413
02:06:33,447 --> 02:06:35,104
Did an amazing job.
2414
02:06:35,104 --> 02:06:37,348
So, you know, I got my
"Walking Dead" peeps.
2415
02:06:37,348 --> 02:06:39,350
-All right. All right.
2416
02:06:39,350 --> 02:06:41,594
Well, it's time now
for the gripping,
2417
02:06:41,594 --> 02:06:44,838
stunning, flesh-eating
conclusion
2418
02:06:44,838 --> 02:06:47,565
of "The Walking Dead"
premiere episode.
2419
02:06:47,565 --> 02:06:49,671
So roll it.
2420
02:06:49,671 --> 02:06:50,879
And I want to ask you,
2421
02:06:50,879 --> 02:06:54,917
since you're always in the --
2422
02:06:54,917 --> 02:06:57,333
Since you're always
in the writers' room, I assume,
2423
02:06:57,333 --> 02:06:59,094
for the series now.
2424
02:06:59,094 --> 02:07:00,474
-Not lately, no.
-No? No?
2425
02:07:00,474 --> 02:07:02,649
But you have been
in the writers' room, right?
2426
02:07:02,649 --> 02:07:03,754
-Yes.
-All right.
2427
02:07:03,754 --> 02:07:06,135
Well, I came up
with three principles
2428
02:07:06,135 --> 02:07:08,759
that seem to always be true
for a "Walking Dead" episode.
2429
02:07:08,759 --> 02:07:10,174
Tell me if I'm on target.
2430
02:07:10,174 --> 02:07:12,176
Numero uno,
2431
02:07:12,176 --> 02:07:16,007
doing the right thing
always endangers your life.
2432
02:07:16,007 --> 02:07:17,353
-Yes.
-Yeah?
2433
02:07:17,353 --> 02:07:21,944
Numero two-oh, being selfless
and making sacrifices
2434
02:07:21,944 --> 02:07:24,567
is almost never rewarded.
2435
02:07:24,567 --> 02:07:25,879
-Yes.
-Yes.
2436
02:07:25,879 --> 02:07:28,917
And three, God is absent.
2437
02:07:28,917 --> 02:07:32,645
[Laughter]
2438
02:07:32,645 --> 02:07:35,130
-Um...
2439
02:07:35,130 --> 02:07:39,134
You know, there --
there have been moments,
2440
02:07:39,134 --> 02:07:42,309
like when they discover
the prison.
2441
02:07:42,309 --> 02:07:44,104
There have been moments
of clarity
2442
02:07:44,104 --> 02:07:48,764
where things have worked out
for our group.
2443
02:07:48,764 --> 02:07:51,215
-Yeah, but usually
when they talk about God,
2444
02:07:51,215 --> 02:07:53,424
it's a delusion, right?
-Yeah.
2445
02:07:53,424 --> 02:07:57,083
-I mean, I'm thinking about --
there's this Isaac Singer story
2446
02:07:57,083 --> 02:08:01,121
where the inmates in a Nazi
concentration camp hold a trial.
2447
02:08:01,121 --> 02:08:05,091
They put God on trial,
and they find him guilty.
2448
02:08:05,091 --> 02:08:07,472
-Hm.
-It's a brutal, brutal show,
2449
02:08:07,472 --> 02:08:09,958
and it's kind of
that same feeling, you know?
2450
02:08:09,958 --> 02:08:12,201
And yet the whole world
loves it.
2451
02:08:12,201 --> 02:08:16,689
♪♪
2452
02:08:24,110 --> 02:08:26,319
-Broadcasting
on emergency channel.
2453
02:08:26,319 --> 02:08:29,840
Will be approaching
Atlanta on Highway 85.
2454
02:08:29,840 --> 02:08:33,671
If anybody reads,
please respond.
2455
02:08:33,671 --> 02:08:36,570
Hello? Hello?
2456
02:08:36,570 --> 02:08:38,434
Can anybody hear my voice?
2457
02:08:40,471 --> 02:08:41,783
Anybody out there?
2458
02:08:41,783 --> 02:08:44,371
Anybody hears me,
please respond.
2459
02:08:46,339 --> 02:08:47,996
Hello? Can you hear my voice?
2460
02:08:47,996 --> 02:08:49,860
-[Radio crackling]
-Hello? Hello?
2461
02:08:49,860 --> 02:08:53,070
Can anybody hear my voice?
2462
02:08:53,070 --> 02:08:54,312
-Hey! Hello?
2463
02:08:54,312 --> 02:08:55,624
-Can you hear my voice?
2464
02:08:55,624 --> 02:08:57,868
-Yes, I can hear you.
You're coming through. Over.
2465
02:08:57,868 --> 02:09:00,560
-If anybody reads,
please respond.
2466
02:09:00,560 --> 02:09:02,804
Broadcasting
on emergency channel.
2467
02:09:02,804 --> 02:09:05,738
Will be approaching Atlanta
on Highway 85.
2468
02:09:05,738 --> 02:09:08,671
If anybody reads,
please respond.
2469
02:09:11,329 --> 02:09:12,917
-We're just outside the city.
2470
02:09:12,917 --> 02:09:15,713
-[Radio crackling]
-Damn it.
2471
02:09:15,713 --> 02:09:18,716
Hello? Hello?!
2472
02:09:18,716 --> 02:09:20,235
He couldn't hear me.
I couldn't warn him.
2473
02:09:20,235 --> 02:09:22,030
-Try to raise him again.
Come on, son.
2474
02:09:22,030 --> 02:09:24,239
You know best
how to work this thing.
2475
02:09:26,241 --> 02:09:29,416
Hello, hello. Is the person
who called still on the air?
2476
02:09:29,416 --> 02:09:31,867
[Crackling]
2477
02:09:31,867 --> 02:09:34,732
This is Officer Shane Walsh
broadcasting to person unknown.
2478
02:09:34,732 --> 02:09:36,182
Please respond.
2479
02:09:36,182 --> 02:09:38,184
[Radio crackling]
2480
02:09:42,775 --> 02:09:45,812
He's gone.
2481
02:09:45,812 --> 02:09:47,710
-There are others.
It's not just us.
2482
02:09:47,710 --> 02:09:49,609
-Yeah. We knew there
would be, right?
2483
02:09:49,609 --> 02:09:51,335
That's why we left the C.B. on.
2484
02:09:51,335 --> 02:09:52,750
-A lot of good it's been doing.
2485
02:09:52,750 --> 02:09:53,820
-Okay.
-And I've been
2486
02:09:53,820 --> 02:09:55,649
saying for a week
we ought to put signs up
2487
02:09:55,649 --> 02:09:57,651
on 85 and warn people
away from the city.
2488
02:09:57,651 --> 02:09:59,930
-Folks got no idea
what they're getting into.
2489
02:09:59,930 --> 02:10:02,691
-Well, we haven't had time.
2490
02:10:02,691 --> 02:10:06,039
-I think we need to make time.
2491
02:10:06,039 --> 02:10:09,802
And that -- that's a luxury
we can't afford.
2492
02:10:09,802 --> 02:10:12,977
We are surviving here.
We are day-to-day.
2493
02:10:12,977 --> 02:10:15,048
-And who the hell
would you propose we send?
2494
02:10:15,048 --> 02:10:16,912
-I'll go. Give me a vehicle.
2495
02:10:16,912 --> 02:10:19,225
-Nobody goes anywhere alone.
You know that.
2496
02:10:24,920 --> 02:10:26,370
-Yes, sir.
2497
02:10:26,370 --> 02:10:28,475
-Hey, hey, hey.
Go on, take a seat, bud.
2498
02:10:28,475 --> 02:10:31,064
You're all right.
Go on. You're all right.
2499
02:10:33,895 --> 02:10:35,897
Wait. You pissed at me?
2500
02:10:37,864 --> 02:10:39,659
Can be pissed at me
all you want.
2501
02:10:39,659 --> 02:10:42,386
It's not gonna change anything.
2502
02:10:42,386 --> 02:10:44,146
I'm not putting you
in danger, okay?
2503
02:10:44,146 --> 02:10:45,941
I'm not doing it for anything.
2504
02:10:45,941 --> 02:10:48,012
That make you feel like
sometimes you want
2505
02:10:48,012 --> 02:10:49,358
to slap me upside the head.
2506
02:10:49,358 --> 02:10:51,360
Tell you what, girl,
you feel that need,
2507
02:10:51,360 --> 02:10:53,362
you go right ahead.
I'm right here. Go on.
2508
02:10:55,571 --> 02:11:00,611
You cannot walk off like that,
all half-cocked.
2509
02:11:00,611 --> 02:11:03,683
Look, you do not want to do it
for my sake or your sake.
2510
02:11:03,683 --> 02:11:07,652
That's fine. But just --
You do it for him.
2511
02:11:07,652 --> 02:11:10,517
That boy has been
through too much,
2512
02:11:10,517 --> 02:11:13,831
and he's not losing
his mother, too, okay?
2513
02:11:13,831 --> 02:11:15,868
Okay?
2514
02:11:15,868 --> 02:11:17,766
-I'm a good mom.
2515
02:11:20,838 --> 02:11:22,978
-You tell me "okay."
2516
02:11:27,845 --> 02:11:29,398
Hmm? [Chuckles]
2517
02:11:29,398 --> 02:11:32,125
It's not hard.
2518
02:11:32,125 --> 02:11:35,059
All right? Hey.
2519
02:11:49,763 --> 02:11:51,386
-Mom?
2520
02:11:54,907 --> 02:11:58,427
-What's up, bud?
She's in there. Go on.
2521
02:11:58,427 --> 02:12:01,568
-Hey, I don't want you
to worry.
2522
02:12:01,568 --> 02:12:04,019
Your mama's not going
anywhere, okay?
2523
02:12:04,019 --> 02:12:07,022
Yeah? Yeah?
2524
02:12:07,022 --> 02:12:08,575
Go finish your chores.
-Okay.
2525
02:12:08,575 --> 02:12:10,336
-Okay.
2526
02:12:23,107 --> 02:12:24,453
[Trunk clicks]
2527
02:12:52,585 --> 02:12:55,588
Hello?!
2528
02:12:55,588 --> 02:12:58,039
Police officer out here!
2529
02:13:00,110 --> 02:13:02,008
Can I borrow some gas?
2530
02:13:05,563 --> 02:13:07,910
[Wind chime tinkling]
2531
02:13:07,910 --> 02:13:10,534
♪♪
2532
02:13:10,534 --> 02:13:12,605
Hello?
2533
02:13:16,229 --> 02:13:17,782
[Knock on door]
2534
02:13:17,782 --> 02:13:20,993
Hello? Anybody home?
2535
02:13:43,429 --> 02:13:45,396
[Flies buzzing]
2536
02:14:19,879 --> 02:14:21,294
[Groans]
2537
02:14:21,294 --> 02:14:23,227
[Spits]
2538
02:14:53,430 --> 02:14:55,432
[Horse nickers]
2539
02:15:07,237 --> 02:15:09,687
-[Horse neighs]
-Easy, now. Easy.
2540
02:15:09,687 --> 02:15:11,862
Not gonna hurt you.
2541
02:15:11,862 --> 02:15:15,383
Nothing like that.
2542
02:15:15,383 --> 02:15:18,489
More like a proposal.
2543
02:15:18,489 --> 02:15:20,457
Atlanta's just
down the road a ways.
2544
02:15:20,457 --> 02:15:22,010
It's safe there.
2545
02:15:22,010 --> 02:15:24,461
Food. Shelter. People.
2546
02:15:24,461 --> 02:15:26,187
Other horses, too, I bet.
2547
02:15:28,361 --> 02:15:31,157
How's that sound?
2548
02:15:31,157 --> 02:15:32,848
There we go. Good boy.
2549
02:15:32,848 --> 02:15:36,093
Good boy. Good boy.
2550
02:15:36,093 --> 02:15:38,751
Here. Come with me. Come.
2551
02:15:38,751 --> 02:15:40,270
Come on.
2552
02:15:40,270 --> 02:15:43,514
♪♪
2553
02:15:43,514 --> 02:15:45,240
Good boy.
2554
02:15:45,240 --> 02:15:50,072
♪♪
2555
02:15:50,072 --> 02:15:52,489
Let's go easy, okay?
2556
02:15:52,489 --> 02:15:55,285
I haven't done this for years.
2557
02:15:55,285 --> 02:15:57,494
Whoa. Whoa, whoa, whoa!
2558
02:15:57,494 --> 02:15:59,151
[Horse neighs]
2559
02:15:59,151 --> 02:16:01,877
Easy, now. Easy, boy.
2560
02:16:01,877 --> 02:16:04,915
Easy. Easy. Easy. Easy.
2561
02:16:04,915 --> 02:16:07,193
Easy. Whoa.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
2562
02:16:07,193 --> 02:16:09,368
Whoa, whoa. Whoa.
2563
02:16:09,368 --> 02:16:11,784
[Hooves clicking]
2564
02:16:13,820 --> 02:16:15,719
[Horse whinnies]
2565
02:16:15,719 --> 02:16:22,208
♪♪
2566
02:16:22,208 --> 02:16:24,141
[Smooches] Let's go.
2567
02:16:41,952 --> 02:16:44,023
[Hooves clicking]
2568
02:17:17,574 --> 02:17:19,886
[Horse whinnies]
2569
02:18:04,276 --> 02:18:06,864
-[Growling]
2570
02:18:08,244 --> 02:18:10,420
-[Horse whinnies]
-Whoa.
2571
02:18:16,115 --> 02:18:19,013
-[Horse whinnies]
-Steady.
2572
02:18:19,013 --> 02:18:22,259
There's just a few.
Nothing we can't outrun.
2573
02:18:30,302 --> 02:18:33,442
Okay. Whoa, whoa, whoa.
2574
02:18:42,383 --> 02:18:45,455
[Crow cawing]
2575
02:19:05,785 --> 02:19:07,856
[Helicopter approaching]
2576
02:19:24,148 --> 02:19:26,634
-Hyah!
-[Horse neighs]
2577
02:19:32,053 --> 02:19:34,331
[Walkers groaning]
2578
02:19:34,331 --> 02:19:36,644
[Horse whinnying]
2579
02:19:36,644 --> 02:19:39,060
[Walkers growling]
2580
02:19:52,107 --> 02:19:54,386
[Walkers growling]
2581
02:20:01,738 --> 02:20:04,499
[Gasps] Sh...
2582
02:20:04,499 --> 02:20:06,674
[Horse whinnying]
2583
02:20:22,068 --> 02:20:24,277
[Squishing]
2584
02:20:31,905 --> 02:20:33,563
Sh...
2585
02:20:39,569 --> 02:20:44,539
♪♪
2586
02:20:44,539 --> 02:20:47,473
[Walkers growling]
2587
02:20:47,473 --> 02:20:49,233
Oh, God. Oh, God.
2588
02:20:49,233 --> 02:20:56,619
♪♪
2589
02:20:56,619 --> 02:21:04,076
♪♪
2590
02:21:04,076 --> 02:21:06,147
[Walkers growling]
2591
02:21:06,147 --> 02:21:12,153
♪♪
2592
02:21:12,153 --> 02:21:14,500
Lori, Carl, I'm sorry.
2593
02:21:19,194 --> 02:21:21,093
[Hatch thuds]
2594
02:21:23,026 --> 02:21:25,166
[Panting]
2595
02:21:27,029 --> 02:21:29,135
Oh...God.
2596
02:21:37,627 --> 02:21:39,869
[Grunts]
2597
02:21:40,457 --> 02:21:42,908
-[Growling]
2598
02:21:42,908 --> 02:21:44,461
-[Gasps]
2599
02:21:45,773 --> 02:21:47,429
-[Gunshot echoes]
-[High-pitched ringing]
2600
02:21:47,429 --> 02:21:49,639
[Groans]
2601
02:21:49,639 --> 02:21:54,920
♪♪
2602
02:21:54,920 --> 02:22:00,235
♪♪
2603
02:22:00,235 --> 02:22:02,134
Oh. God.
2604
02:22:02,134 --> 02:22:07,760
♪♪
2605
02:22:07,760 --> 02:22:13,421
♪♪
2606
02:22:13,421 --> 02:22:15,250
[Groans]
2607
02:22:15,250 --> 02:22:19,323
♪♪
2608
02:22:19,323 --> 02:22:20,946
[Muffled growling]
2609
02:22:29,920 --> 02:22:31,819
[Ringing fades]
2610
02:22:49,043 --> 02:22:51,321
[Pounding]
2611
02:23:02,470 --> 02:23:04,403
[Gun cocking]
2612
02:23:08,475 --> 02:23:10,511
[Pounding]
2613
02:23:32,637 --> 02:23:34,640
[Radio crackling]
2614
02:23:38,713 --> 02:23:40,715
-Man over radio: Hey, you.
2615
02:23:42,579 --> 02:23:45,858
Dumbass.
2616
02:23:45,858 --> 02:23:47,998
Yeah, you in the tank.
2617
02:23:47,998 --> 02:23:50,035
You cozy in there?
2618
02:23:50,035 --> 02:23:51,519
♪♪
2619
02:23:51,519 --> 02:23:53,107
-♪ Yeah ♪
2620
02:23:53,107 --> 02:23:59,734
♪♪
2621
02:23:59,734 --> 02:24:02,150
♪ Drifting on the spaceway ♪
2622
02:24:02,150 --> 02:24:04,912
♪ By the Betelgeuse Hotel ♪
2623
02:24:04,912 --> 02:24:07,328
♪ Mapping out constellations ♪
2624
02:24:07,328 --> 02:24:09,951
♪ Of the place I know so well ♪
2625
02:24:09,951 --> 02:24:12,264
♪ Sifting through the system ♪
2626
02:24:12,264 --> 02:24:15,163
♪ For the piece
that knows my name ♪
2627
02:24:15,163 --> 02:24:18,926
♪ Endlessly I list them
in the master game ♪
2628
02:24:18,926 --> 02:24:21,238
♪ Welcome to my world ♪
2629
02:24:21,307 --> 02:24:24,000
-♪ Welcome to my world ♪
2630
02:24:24,000 --> 02:24:26,658
-♪ Welcome to my only world ♪
2631
02:24:26,726 --> 02:24:29,005
-♪ Welcome to my only world ♪
2632
02:24:29,005 --> 02:24:32,042
-♪ It is full of space junk ♪
2633
02:24:32,042 --> 02:24:33,768
♪♪
2634
02:24:33,768 --> 02:24:36,150
♪ But your words
are coming through ♪
2635
02:24:36,150 --> 02:24:39,015
♪♪
2636
02:24:39,015 --> 02:24:41,465
♪ I'm riding on the space junk ♪
2637
02:24:41,465 --> 02:24:43,985
♪♪
2638
02:24:43,985 --> 02:24:46,539
♪ And it's bringing me to you ♪
2639
02:24:46,539 --> 02:24:49,404
♪♪
2640
02:24:49,404 --> 02:24:51,717
♪ Bringing me to you ♪
2641
02:24:51,717 --> 02:24:54,375
♪♪
2642
02:24:54,375 --> 02:24:56,204
-♪ Ooh-ahh ♪
2643
02:25:01,278 --> 02:25:06,456
♪♪
2644
02:25:06,456 --> 02:25:08,940
[Laughter]
2645
02:25:08,940 --> 02:25:12,773
♪♪
2646
02:25:12,773 --> 02:25:14,257
-♪ Yeah ♪
2647
02:25:14,257 --> 02:25:15,465
♪♪
2648
02:25:15,465 --> 02:25:17,467
-♪ Ooh-ahh ♪
2649
02:25:17,467 --> 02:25:20,194
♪♪
2650
02:25:20,194 --> 02:25:22,437
-♪ Ooh-ahh ♪
2651
02:25:22,437 --> 02:25:25,475
♪♪
2652
02:25:25,475 --> 02:25:27,753
-♪ Ooh-ahh ♪
2653
02:25:27,753 --> 02:25:30,376
♪♪
2654
02:25:30,376 --> 02:25:32,482
-♪ Ooh-ahh ♪
2655
02:25:32,482 --> 02:25:36,417
♪♪
2656
02:25:38,902 --> 02:25:41,767
-Oh, yeah. The sequence
that has been reproduced
2657
02:25:41,767 --> 02:25:44,666
more times than just about
any other.
2658
02:25:44,666 --> 02:25:46,807
First, that shot of Rick
on the horse
2659
02:25:46,807 --> 02:25:47,980
riding down the Interstate
2660
02:25:47,980 --> 02:25:50,914
towards an apparently empty
Atlanta
2661
02:25:50,914 --> 02:25:53,675
with hundreds of abandoned cars
on the other side of the median.
2662
02:25:53,675 --> 02:25:56,230
And then that last crane shot
with one zombie horde
2663
02:25:56,230 --> 02:25:57,576
swarming over the tank
2664
02:25:57,576 --> 02:25:59,992
and another zombie horde
devouring that horse.
2665
02:25:59,992 --> 02:26:02,029
Normally I would go
to Darcy right now
2666
02:26:02,029 --> 02:26:04,756
for the animal-rights issues
involved here,
2667
02:26:04,756 --> 02:26:06,965
but she's still ensconced
in the makeup room,
2668
02:26:06,965 --> 02:26:09,553
getting properly zombified
by rock-star
2669
02:26:09,553 --> 02:26:11,762
special-effects guy Carey Jones.
2670
02:26:11,762 --> 02:26:14,696
So can we go to the remote cam?
Can I talk to her?
2671
02:26:14,696 --> 02:26:16,837
-Yeah, yeah.
2672
02:26:16,837 --> 02:26:19,460
-Darcy! I have no mail.
2673
02:26:19,460 --> 02:26:21,220
-No, you do have mail.
2674
02:26:21,220 --> 02:26:23,636
I loved it in the rooster
letter holder thingy.
2675
02:26:23,636 --> 02:26:27,019
-Oh. This thing?
2676
02:26:27,019 --> 02:26:28,779
Oh, okay. Thanks.
2677
02:26:28,779 --> 02:26:30,609
And looking really nasty,
by the way.
2678
02:26:30,609 --> 02:26:34,439
And, Carey, you can go
as nasty as you want.
2679
02:26:34,439 --> 02:26:36,373
-We're getting pretty nasty.
2680
02:26:36,373 --> 02:26:37,996
-All right. Let me see there.
2681
02:26:37,996 --> 02:26:40,136
This letter poured in from...
2682
02:26:40,136 --> 02:26:46,244
Brian Cunningham
of Louisville, Kentucky.
2683
02:26:46,244 --> 02:26:49,110
"Hi, Joe Bob and Austin."
2684
02:26:49,110 --> 02:26:52,148
You know -- Austin.
Nobody writes to me anymore.
2685
02:26:52,148 --> 02:26:53,805
They read to Darcy,
they write to Yuki,
2686
02:26:53,805 --> 02:26:55,358
now they're writing to you also.
2687
02:26:55,358 --> 02:26:56,704
All right.
2688
02:26:56,704 --> 02:26:58,568
"This is Brian Cunningham.
one of the filmmakers
2689
02:26:58,568 --> 02:27:00,812
behind "Loss Prevention,"
2690
02:27:00,812 --> 02:27:03,573
which screened
at the Jamboree."
2691
02:27:03,573 --> 02:27:07,611
"Loss Prevention" is a wonderful
2692
02:27:07,611 --> 02:27:10,787
micro-budget feature
that premiered at Mutant Fest,
2693
02:27:10,787 --> 02:27:13,825
which was part of
Joe Bob's Drive-In Jamboree
2694
02:27:13,825 --> 02:27:16,344
at the Mahoning Drive-In
in Pennsylvania back in July.
2695
02:27:16,344 --> 02:27:19,071
So find it. Watch it!
2696
02:27:19,071 --> 02:27:20,970
One of the scariest villains
2697
02:27:20,970 --> 02:27:25,319
I have ever seen on film
in that movie.
2698
02:27:25,319 --> 02:27:28,391
"I just wanted
to send you both a note
2699
02:27:28,391 --> 02:27:30,496
and thank you again
for the awesome experience
2700
02:27:30,496 --> 02:27:32,878
of showing the movie
and everything surrounding it.
2701
02:27:32,878 --> 02:27:34,500
I've been making movies
for 10 years
2702
02:27:34,500 --> 02:27:36,261
and have gone
to a lot of festivals,
2703
02:27:36,261 --> 02:27:38,470
but none of them have ever
made me feel as valued
2704
02:27:38,470 --> 02:27:39,954
or as welcomed as you guys did.
2705
02:27:39,954 --> 02:27:44,062
And all this while you juggled
the impending doom of hurricanes
2706
02:27:44,062 --> 02:27:46,064
and floods
and technical carnage.
2707
02:27:46,064 --> 02:27:47,997
Austin, thank--"
-[Laughter]
2708
02:27:47,997 --> 02:27:50,240
"Austin, thank you so much
for helping me
2709
02:27:50,240 --> 02:27:52,415
troubleshoot
our technical issues
2710
02:27:52,415 --> 02:27:54,831
and taking the time
to sit down and check discs
2711
02:27:54,831 --> 02:27:56,591
to make sure
everything worked.
2712
02:27:56,591 --> 02:27:58,939
And thanks for
the constant communication
2713
02:27:58,939 --> 02:28:00,975
and for helping us
figure out travel logistics
2714
02:28:00,975 --> 02:28:02,356
to be able to make it.
2715
02:28:02,356 --> 02:28:04,496
This is the first time
any festival
2716
02:28:04,496 --> 02:28:07,844
has put us up in a hotel,
and it really meant a lot
2717
02:28:07,844 --> 02:28:10,122
and kept us from
trying to drive 10 hours
2718
02:28:10,122 --> 02:28:12,607
after the longest day
in recent memory."
2719
02:28:12,607 --> 02:28:14,195
Aren't you a saint, Austin?
2720
02:28:14,195 --> 02:28:15,956
Half the letter's about you.
Okay.
2721
02:28:15,956 --> 02:28:18,855
"Joe Bob, thank you for
putting on an event like this
2722
02:28:18,855 --> 02:28:21,444
where average
unconnected filmmakers
2723
02:28:21,444 --> 02:28:22,997
have a shot
at getting their work seen.
2724
02:28:22,997 --> 02:28:25,654
Thank you for
the zero submission fees
2725
02:28:25,654 --> 02:28:27,207
so nobody had to break the bank,
2726
02:28:27,207 --> 02:28:29,796
and thanks for taking the time
to introduce the films
2727
02:28:29,796 --> 02:28:31,903
and spend some time
talking with the filmmakers.
2728
02:28:31,903 --> 02:28:34,043
I grew up watching you
on Showtime,
2729
02:28:34,043 --> 02:28:36,355
and I am a huge fan
of 'The Last Drive-In.'
2730
02:28:36,355 --> 02:28:40,118
I love the communal experience
of making and watching movies,
2731
02:28:40,118 --> 02:28:42,430
and when it comes to celebrating
the pure joy of movies
2732
02:28:42,430 --> 02:28:45,399
of all shapes and sizes,
you're the only game in town,
2733
02:28:45,399 --> 02:28:47,988
so thank you for continuing
to do what you do.
2734
02:28:47,988 --> 02:28:49,886
If you guys ever need a movie
to show
2735
02:28:49,886 --> 02:28:51,404
or a writer or director
for hire,
2736
02:28:51,404 --> 02:28:53,131
please let me know
if I can help.
2737
02:28:53,131 --> 02:28:54,856
After five movies
over ten years,
2738
02:28:54,856 --> 02:28:58,308
the Jamboree has helped
reinvigorate my passion
2739
02:28:58,308 --> 02:29:00,483
for an industry
that seems tailor-made
2740
02:29:00,483 --> 02:29:02,692
to discourage people,
and for that,
2741
02:29:02,692 --> 02:29:05,626
I am deeply grateful
to you and your entire team.
2742
02:29:05,626 --> 02:29:07,351
Thank you again.
Can't wait for the next one.
2743
02:29:07,351 --> 02:29:09,250
Brian. Louisville, Kentucky.
2744
02:29:09,250 --> 02:29:12,978
P.S. -- Also, please
pass this along to Darcy,
2745
02:29:12,978 --> 02:29:14,876
as I don't have her address.
2746
02:29:14,876 --> 02:29:16,568
Her kind words about the movie
2747
02:29:16,568 --> 02:29:19,778
and her constant support
of the community on Twitter
2748
02:29:19,778 --> 02:29:22,194
are amazing."
2749
02:29:22,194 --> 02:29:23,850
Okay, well,
that's what Mutant Fest
2750
02:29:23,850 --> 02:29:26,129
is all about -- trying to take
these great storytellers
2751
02:29:26,129 --> 02:29:27,889
with the tiny budgets
out in the Heartland
2752
02:29:27,889 --> 02:29:29,511
and give them some exposure.
2753
02:29:29,511 --> 02:29:32,549
So thank you, Brian.
And all right.
2754
02:29:32,549 --> 02:29:34,068
We're gonna show another episode
2755
02:29:34,068 --> 02:29:36,243
of "The Walking Dead"
after the break.
2756
02:29:36,243 --> 02:29:39,797
And, of course, we'll have
the big Zombie Darcy reveal.
2757
02:29:39,797 --> 02:29:41,731
So stick with us.
2758
02:29:41,731 --> 02:29:43,698
And in the meantime,
I'm Joe Bob Briggs
2759
02:29:43,698 --> 02:29:46,598
reminding you
to never ask a barber
2760
02:29:46,598 --> 02:29:48,358
if he thinks you need a haircut.
2761
02:29:48,358 --> 02:29:51,430
And The Drive-In will never die.
2762
02:29:52,949 --> 02:29:55,503
It's a little creepy to think
that there are people watching
2763
02:29:55,503 --> 02:29:58,058
this who have no idea who we are
because it makes --
2764
02:29:58,058 --> 02:30:00,094
I've been thinking
about it all night.
2765
02:30:00,094 --> 02:30:04,271
[Laughing] It makes me realize
how strange our show is.
2766
02:30:04,271 --> 02:30:06,411
You guys heard the one
about the two cannibals
2767
02:30:06,411 --> 02:30:08,344
who were eating a clown?
2768
02:30:08,344 --> 02:30:10,001
One cannibal says
to the other cannibal,
2769
02:30:10,001 --> 02:30:11,968
"Does this taste funny to you?"
2770
02:30:11,968 --> 02:30:15,144
[Laughter]
2771
02:30:15,144 --> 02:30:16,731
Two cannibals sitting by a fire.
2772
02:30:16,731 --> 02:30:20,976
The first cannibal says,
"I hate my mother-in-law."
2773
02:30:20,976 --> 02:30:23,807
Second cannibal says,
"So try the potatoes."
2774
02:30:23,807 --> 02:30:26,189
[Laughter]
2775
02:30:26,189 --> 02:30:28,812
See, that's the difference
between us and "Walking Dead."
2776
02:30:28,812 --> 02:30:30,952
There is no subtext here.
2777
02:30:30,952 --> 02:30:33,403
[ Laughs ]
There's no larger context.
2778
02:30:33,403 --> 02:30:35,922
You know?
2779
02:30:35,922 --> 02:30:38,994
A man gets captured
by cannibals.
2780
02:30:38,994 --> 02:30:40,859
Every day,
they poke him with spears
2781
02:30:40,859 --> 02:30:44,380
and use his blood
to wash down their food.
2782
02:30:44,380 --> 02:30:47,969
So, finally, the guy calls
the chief over, and he says,
2783
02:30:47,969 --> 02:30:50,386
"You know, you can kill me
and you can eat me,
2784
02:30:50,386 --> 02:30:52,698
but I'm tired of
getting stuck for drinks."
2785
02:30:52,698 --> 02:30:55,149
[Laughter]
2786
02:30:55,149 --> 02:30:59,981
♪♪
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