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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,540 The most profound experience I have 2 00:00:44,110 --> 00:00:45,540 occurs within the silence. 3 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:54,000 When silence enters the room and sits with us. 4 00:00:56,210 --> 00:00:58,390 To make the silence audible, 5 00:00:59,170 --> 00:01:00,990 requires a vehicle. 6 00:01:02,330 --> 00:01:03,790 And that vehicle 7 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:05,790 is music. 8 00:01:13,630 --> 00:01:17,460 For me, interpretation is sacred. This is a sacred space. 9 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:23,530 The audience comes from outside, in a commercially mediated event, 10 00:01:24,290 --> 00:01:27,380 A liminal zone is needed, an intermediate space, 11 00:01:27,390 --> 00:01:32,970 to reconcile the outside with the inside, to make the transition between the two possible. 12 00:01:33,140 --> 00:01:39,310 And this is the function of the Soundscapes in a King Crimson concert, 13 00:01:39,310 --> 00:01:41,310 tune the air. 14 00:01:41,580 --> 00:01:43,450 Having fun, Robert? 15 00:01:43,990 --> 00:01:46,620 That is a more complex answer. 16 00:01:48,660 --> 00:01:52,980 There is a lot of joy in what we do, 17 00:01:52,980 --> 00:01:56,640 and it is also very difficult, because 18 00:01:58,250 --> 00:02:04,070 the band has a potential that it has not yet has not yet reached, 19 00:02:04,070 --> 00:02:07,910 and that causes me deep suffering. 20 00:02:07,910 --> 00:02:09,740 How far do you have to go? 21 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:20,390 King Crimson was formed in a basement in West London in 1969. 22 00:02:20,390 --> 00:02:23,020 Despite transcontinental success, 23 00:02:23,020 --> 00:02:24,820 two of the band's founders 24 00:02:24,820 --> 00:02:28,440 Michael Giles and Ian McDonald 25 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:30,700 abandoned it in the first year. 26 00:02:30,700 --> 00:02:38,200 Robert Fripp had to recruit a new band, initiating a process of fragmentation 27 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:46,480 and reinvention that has continued for more than 50 years. 28 00:02:46,850 --> 00:02:56,780 AT THE COURT OF THE CRIMSON KING 50 YEARS OF KING CRIMSON 29 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:19,990 And now one of your favorites: 30 00:03:27,090 --> 00:03:31,670 There are two versions of this guitar, which are the same, correct? 31 00:03:31,670 --> 00:03:34,220 -Yes, 1 and 2. -Which one is this one? 32 00:03:34,220 --> 00:03:36,990 -This is 1 -Why is it 1? 33 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:41,470 -Because he seems to like it better. -And how are they different? 34 00:03:41,470 --> 00:03:45,330 There are tiny differences, I'm not sure what they are. 35 00:03:46,740 --> 00:03:48,280 Would it be fair to say 36 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:54,040 that in your area of operations, those minute differences become differences become significant? 37 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,170 Yes, I think it's fair to say that. 38 00:03:57,810 --> 00:04:00,550 I want everything to be perfect for him, do you understand me? 39 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:02,800 This is my main concern. 40 00:04:04,930 --> 00:04:08,290 Undoubtedly, he expects a certain degree of perfection. of perfection. 41 00:04:10,650 --> 00:04:12,560 I can't help but see that 42 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:16,220 this band is full of individuals who could well claim 43 00:04:16,220 --> 00:04:20,550 that, if they are not the best in their field, they are among the top five, are among the top five. 44 00:04:20,550 --> 00:04:23,120 And yet, only one of them 45 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,530 spends 4 to 5 hours a day practicing. 46 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:30,130 Hello. 47 00:04:30,130 --> 00:04:32,210 Would you like to come in and watch how I take off my clothes? 48 00:04:32,210 --> 00:04:33,870 If possible, I would love to, thank you. 49 00:04:33,870 --> 00:04:36,480 You can't, I just asked if you would like it. 50 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,820 Obviously I would like to, you talk about it a lot. 51 00:04:38,820 --> 00:04:42,240 -I just want to... -Humiliate me. 52 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,070 I just want to understand the boundaries in this relationship. 53 00:04:45,070 --> 00:04:47,510 Now I know what you want 54 00:04:47,510 --> 00:04:49,510 and I know what I can deny you 55 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,830 to have power over you. 56 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,900 I think that seeing what 57 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,060 the inevitable 58 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,930 that your life comes to an end, 59 00:05:03,710 --> 00:05:05,260 you can 60 00:05:05,820 --> 00:05:09,220 increase the sense of urgency 61 00:05:10,630 --> 00:05:12,110 y 62 00:05:12,230 --> 00:05:14,400 the interesting thing is that 63 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:16,000 the urgency... 64 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,170 I could say that urgency is one of the characteristics 65 00:05:20,170 --> 00:05:22,170 of Crimson's music. 66 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,780 The first thing I want to know 67 00:06:47,250 --> 00:06:49,890 is why you want to make a movie about King Crimson. 68 00:06:50,830 --> 00:06:53,260 The 50th anniversary seems to me 69 00:06:53,260 --> 00:06:55,020 an obvious point 70 00:06:55,020 --> 00:06:59,010 to develop the perspective of what we have been doing. 71 00:07:00,420 --> 00:07:04,100 The summary of my personal involvement in King Crimson is 72 00:07:04,100 --> 00:07:06,940 I have been incredibly unhappy, 73 00:07:06,940 --> 00:07:10,560 miserable, in a word, since 74 00:07:11,070 --> 00:07:14,160 1969 to 2013. 75 00:07:14,550 --> 00:07:18,090 Blood rack, barbed wire, 76 00:07:18,090 --> 00:07:21,110 funeral pyre of a politician, 77 00:07:21,750 --> 00:07:25,370 innocent people raped with napalm fire, 78 00:07:25,370 --> 00:07:29,000 schizoid man of the 21st century. 79 00:07:35,290 --> 00:07:38,240 From the outside, it looks like a dream band. 80 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,780 A band where you can do whatever you want. 81 00:07:41,780 --> 00:07:44,820 A band that can do anything. 82 00:07:44,820 --> 00:07:48,330 A band that can undo its entire repertoire its entire repertoire 83 00:07:48,330 --> 00:07:50,730 and replace it with a brand new one. new one. 84 00:07:51,350 --> 00:07:55,990 It challenges the whole relationship between the audience and the musicians. 85 00:07:56,570 --> 00:07:59,430 Being in Crimson is a bit like having a mild infection. 86 00:07:59,630 --> 00:08:03,010 You're not sick, but you don't feel well either. 87 00:08:04,070 --> 00:08:06,960 I think I broke Robert's heart when I... 88 00:08:08,890 --> 00:08:12,370 Robert has always been good to invite other voices to participate. 89 00:08:12,830 --> 00:08:14,750 He knows he can't do everything alone. 90 00:08:15,460 --> 00:08:19,640 Recruited Bill Bruford, Adrian Belew, 91 00:08:19,820 --> 00:08:20,800 to Tony Levin. 92 00:08:21,300 --> 00:08:24,960 Understandably, if KC is your baby, 93 00:08:25,620 --> 00:08:27,910 wants to have many midwives. 94 00:08:30,060 --> 00:08:33,240 I always thought that Robert and I were partners. 95 00:08:33,540 --> 00:08:35,880 I didn't think I was in someone else's band. 96 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,840 That's why, when I said goodbye from his band, I felt 97 00:08:39,990 --> 00:08:42,240 But how? I thought it was our band. 98 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,240 How to say it? 99 00:08:45,450 --> 00:08:46,900 The problem is not mine. 100 00:08:50,340 --> 00:08:52,050 The problems lie elsewhere. 101 00:08:57,770 --> 00:09:01,120 He has declared that he is happier than ever 102 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:05,120 because he surrounded himself with people willing to do everything 103 00:09:05,370 --> 00:09:07,980 Robert's way, and that is what it requires. 104 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:12,380 And if they don't have it their way, he takes his guitar and goes home. 105 00:09:12,690 --> 00:09:14,540 I've seen it done. 106 00:09:25,890 --> 00:09:28,510 This is the first King Crimson 107 00:09:29,110 --> 00:09:33,740 where there is not at least one member who actively resents my presence. 108 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:35,530 At least one. 109 00:09:43,740 --> 00:09:45,300 Stop following me. 110 00:09:45,690 --> 00:09:48,100 -In Bill's case... -On second thought, come here. 111 00:09:48,100 --> 00:09:50,550 Bill is as crazy as I am, 112 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:51,960 or just as sane. 113 00:09:52,560 --> 00:09:55,800 The only personal friend of mine who has joined King Crimson. 114 00:09:56,850 --> 00:09:58,970 In many King Crimson I have felt 115 00:10:00,430 --> 00:10:03,310 "I can't be the only sane one in this madhouse." 116 00:10:04,500 --> 00:10:08,010 Being in King Crimson gives the members 117 00:10:09,610 --> 00:10:11,510 the gift of responsibility. 118 00:10:12,390 --> 00:10:13,550 And so... 119 00:10:14,910 --> 00:10:16,750 The responsibility is mine. 120 00:10:17,140 --> 00:10:19,020 What are the parameters? Well... 121 00:10:19,750 --> 00:10:21,810 The parameters are to touch 122 00:10:22,140 --> 00:10:24,010 the right sounds at the right time. 123 00:10:25,730 --> 00:10:27,820 Doing that is my job. 124 00:10:34,340 --> 00:10:37,690 I can't film in there, can I? 125 00:10:38,710 --> 00:10:41,610 I don't need... You wouldn't have have to ask me that. 126 00:10:41,610 --> 00:10:42,870 It's okay. 127 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:48,570 That question, in fact, distracts me from my interpretation. 128 00:10:48,570 --> 00:10:51,560 It puts me in the position of having to worry... 129 00:10:51,560 --> 00:10:52,890 Don't worry about this. 130 00:10:52,890 --> 00:10:54,060 -Good. -Very good. 131 00:10:54,060 --> 00:10:55,290 Thank you. 132 00:10:59,540 --> 00:11:03,190 You can't go into Crimson without knowing exactly what you're going to do. 133 00:11:03,540 --> 00:11:06,110 Unless Robert trusts you. 134 00:11:07,170 --> 00:11:10,300 At times, some members receive more receive more attention. 135 00:11:10,420 --> 00:11:13,610 -You are being observed... -Under a microscope. 136 00:11:13,610 --> 00:11:18,320 It is more difficult because everything can be seen as 137 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:19,570 a problem. 138 00:11:21,330 --> 00:11:23,650 It's not that I disagree, in fact I like it 139 00:11:23,650 --> 00:11:28,930 to have someone so demanding, so that everything goes as smoothly as possible. 140 00:11:30,220 --> 00:11:31,400 Let's leave it there. 141 00:11:32,540 --> 00:11:36,200 -What makes you unique as a musician, Jakko? -Almost nothing. 142 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,490 -Yeah, really. -Luck. 143 00:11:40,430 --> 00:11:43,510 -Nice answer, but I don't believe you.... -It's true. 144 00:11:43,510 --> 00:11:48,840 If you weren't an extraordinary musician, you wouldn't be in the band, but at the same time... 145 00:11:50,370 --> 00:11:50,940 ...it is true. 146 00:11:51,680 --> 00:11:53,200 Since you are... 147 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,300 that is true. 148 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,940 You are under the shadow of very important figures. 149 00:11:59,940 --> 00:12:02,430 You follow in the footsteps of the greats. 150 00:12:02,430 --> 00:12:03,900 And there must be... 151 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,630 It must be difficult to find your own voice in this context. 152 00:12:08,630 --> 00:12:11,200 Tell him he's talking bullshit. 153 00:12:12,740 --> 00:12:16,120 It's nonsense, is a lousy question. 154 00:12:16,890 --> 00:12:19,940 -What would be a better question? -I can think of one. 155 00:12:23,700 --> 00:12:26,240 No, what I would say is that 156 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,740 this is the music I listened to when I was a kid. 157 00:12:31,980 --> 00:12:36,210 My singing is influenced by the musicians by the musicians I listened to. 158 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,220 It's not that I pretend 159 00:12:38,950 --> 00:12:45,370 I sing like someone else for the sake of the material, I sing as myself, but it happens 160 00:12:46,300 --> 00:12:47,590 that these influences 161 00:12:48,110 --> 00:12:49,900 are those same musicians, then 162 00:12:50,290 --> 00:12:52,680 if this works, that must be why. 163 00:12:52,680 --> 00:12:55,080 There is another, much simpler answer. 164 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,870 -What, "fuck you"? -No, the answer is 165 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,200 King Crimson 166 00:13:00,660 --> 00:13:04,970 is not only part of your musical DNA 167 00:13:04,970 --> 00:13:08,000 -but it's your musical DNA. -I like that. 168 00:13:08,940 --> 00:13:12,100 And all this ridiculousness 169 00:13:12,100 --> 00:13:15,030 of being under the shadow of others 170 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:16,440 is an inconsistency. 171 00:13:17,660 --> 00:13:19,700 Jakko is not overshadowed by anyone. 172 00:13:19,700 --> 00:13:22,170 He is a giant in his field. 173 00:13:26,140 --> 00:13:29,530 Don't you feel like the favorite son? 174 00:13:29,530 --> 00:13:31,270 I don't want you to film this, no. 175 00:13:35,100 --> 00:13:36,740 I feel this is my job. 176 00:13:36,740 --> 00:13:39,000 It is dangerous to talk about this. 177 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:43,400 Gavin always says to me. "You are obviously irreplaceable, 178 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,500 Just like the guy who was there before." 179 00:13:50,340 --> 00:13:54,990 I listened to Crimson when I was 11 years old, and it changed my perception 180 00:13:54,990 --> 00:13:57,500 of what music is and can be. 181 00:13:57,820 --> 00:14:00,230 I remember lying on the floor 182 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:04,190 with his head on a pillow, and the two stereo speakers 183 00:14:04,190 --> 00:14:06,470 one on each side 184 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:11,210 of the head, with the lights off, to escape lights off, to escape 185 00:14:11,210 --> 00:14:12,980 how I felt. 186 00:14:14,670 --> 00:14:19,380 He wrote to his lover's wife: 187 00:14:23,970 --> 00:14:25,700 As a child, I was adopted 188 00:14:25,700 --> 00:14:29,180 a Polish immigrant and his French wife. 189 00:14:29,850 --> 00:14:34,310 He was very strict, my life was austere and lonely, 190 00:14:34,310 --> 00:14:36,250 had no relatives, 191 00:14:36,580 --> 00:14:40,900 their families, or lived behind the Iron Curtain behind the Iron Curtain, 192 00:14:41,750 --> 00:14:43,050 or somewhere in France. 193 00:14:43,910 --> 00:14:48,270 And this music seemed to come from another place, from another planet. 194 00:14:50,090 --> 00:14:52,180 I could immerse myself in it 195 00:14:52,180 --> 00:14:54,640 and escape into it 196 00:14:55,180 --> 00:14:56,870 because he felt so 197 00:14:57,110 --> 00:14:59,680 magical and unknown. 198 00:15:18,860 --> 00:15:21,160 I listened to this album and was moved by it 199 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,910 music, I became obsessed, I analyzed the covers, 200 00:15:25,910 --> 00:15:28,640 I did as much research as I could about the band, 201 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:32,700 I was 13 years old and I even named my dog 'Fripp. to my dog, for fuck's sake. 202 00:15:33,010 --> 00:15:38,380 It inspired me to be a musician, and now to be in the band to be in the band, so many years later... 203 00:15:39,260 --> 00:15:41,640 The first trials were difficult, 204 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,340 and Robert said to me "Jakko, this is not an audition, 205 00:15:44,340 --> 00:15:46,190 you already have the position. 206 00:15:46,190 --> 00:15:48,890 Just do it." 207 00:15:48,890 --> 00:15:54,610 Is it hard to let go of that mentality? Because I still feel like I'm on probation. 208 00:15:54,610 --> 00:15:56,950 The thing is, you are. 209 00:16:17,930 --> 00:16:19,380 Can you shake my hand? 210 00:16:19,380 --> 00:16:21,730 Gently, yes. 211 00:16:21,730 --> 00:16:25,400 The other day I shook Robert's hand, for the first time in a while, 212 00:16:25,650 --> 00:16:31,190 and he is so precise, and always dresses like an English gentleman, 213 00:16:31,190 --> 00:16:33,620 but he has the hands of a peasant. 214 00:16:33,620 --> 00:16:36,440 They are full of calluses, 215 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:42,060 -From practicing so much, it's extraordinary. -Yes, he is always playing. 216 00:16:42,060 --> 00:16:44,230 This is one of the few fingers I don't use, 217 00:16:44,230 --> 00:16:47,490 and this one I do use, you can see the difference in size. 218 00:16:47,810 --> 00:16:52,850 It's years of using it, I guess everybody is 219 00:16:52,850 --> 00:16:54,350 as spatulas for that reason. 220 00:16:54,550 --> 00:17:02,060 I return, I return 221 00:17:02,630 --> 00:17:06,600 There was a very nice moment with the 80's band, the formation that I like the most, 222 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,860 It was Belew, Levin, Robert and myself, 223 00:17:10,860 --> 00:17:15,400 two Englishmen and two Americans. The Englishmen, Robert and I, were speaking 224 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,720 of everything that was going on in the band, as much as possible, 225 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:22,190 and the philosophy of life as we know it, 226 00:17:22,190 --> 00:17:27,290 while the Americans played pool, ate hamburgers, what they do, 227 00:17:27,290 --> 00:17:32,150 and then, without talking about it, we would get together to play, and the Americans played amazing. 228 00:17:32,150 --> 00:17:37,350 British verbiage notwithstanding, 229 00:17:37,350 --> 00:17:40,970 analysis of what we should do, 230 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:45,720 there was a nice, balanced combination of American American ability to get things done 231 00:17:46,150 --> 00:17:50,130 and the strategic thinking and strategic thinking of the analytical British. 232 00:17:51,530 --> 00:17:55,870 1,2,3,4,1,2,3, 233 00:17:55,870 --> 00:18:00,760 I look forward to every moment 234 00:18:02,230 --> 00:18:06,590 I wait, I wait for the opportunity 235 00:18:06,590 --> 00:18:12,060 When the band I joined was formed in 1981, Robert called it Discipline, in 1981, Robert called it Discipline 236 00:18:12,190 --> 00:18:14,520 and being one of the North American of the band 237 00:18:14,930 --> 00:18:20,370 I didn't love the name, it has a negative negative connotation in my country. 238 00:18:20,890 --> 00:18:26,330 -What is the definition in the U.S.? -Well... discipline... 239 00:18:26,820 --> 00:18:27,900 Punishment. 240 00:18:27,900 --> 00:18:33,170 -I started with a cold bath in the morning. -A cold bath? 241 00:18:33,170 --> 00:18:37,880 Your body doesn't want to go into a cold cold bath in the morning, so you tell your body: 242 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,550 "Do as I say." 243 00:18:40,890 --> 00:18:42,810 -Discipline. -Yes, exactly. 244 00:18:42,810 --> 00:18:44,800 In a word: Discipline. 245 00:18:47,180 --> 00:18:48,080 Did you pick up your cutlery? 246 00:18:49,380 --> 00:18:51,610 Yes, cutlery, bed linen, 247 00:18:51,610 --> 00:18:56,570 -Well. -A lot of things. The bed is nice, almost new. 248 00:18:56,570 --> 00:18:59,370 -It's a horrible divorce. -Yes. 249 00:18:59,370 --> 00:19:01,890 He said to me, "I know it seems difficult and sad, 250 00:19:01,890 --> 00:19:03,990 it's a mourning and all that, 251 00:19:03,990 --> 00:19:07,410 but there will be moments of great emotion. 252 00:19:07,410 --> 00:19:10,570 It will be something totally new." 253 00:19:10,570 --> 00:19:15,220 And I said, "Maybe if I were 45 or 50, but I'm 60." 254 00:19:15,220 --> 00:19:18,960 And he said, "But you're a rock star, you follow other rules." 255 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,520 Well, we're going on tour, Jakko, and you'll be single. 256 00:19:23,770 --> 00:19:27,160 -And you'll be the only single guy in the band. -Yes. 257 00:19:43,900 --> 00:19:45,110 What did I miss, Paul? 258 00:19:45,460 --> 00:19:46,250 What did you miss? 259 00:19:46,250 --> 00:19:48,850 A precious moment of your life. 260 00:19:49,350 --> 00:19:50,350 For being here. 261 00:19:50,850 --> 00:19:53,800 Because you could be doing something else 262 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,550 much better than anything we do here. we do here. 263 00:19:58,370 --> 00:19:59,800 The same crap every day. 264 00:20:00,590 --> 00:20:03,970 When they come in, the kids love it, they see a great rock show, 265 00:20:04,270 --> 00:20:09,270 They come out, and we do the same thing again in another place. Always the same thing. 266 00:20:09,870 --> 00:20:12,400 Another dark and dirty hole. 267 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,950 Sometimes they are dark, dirty and smelly. 268 00:20:15,290 --> 00:20:17,150 Dark and horrible holes. 269 00:20:17,330 --> 00:20:21,960 We go to cold, horrible places, in winter. 270 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:26,800 They are never pretty. Always horrible, cold, dark holes. 271 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,100 But you get used to it. You lose your eyesight. 272 00:20:30,730 --> 00:20:33,980 You lose your hearing to music. This is normal. 273 00:20:34,490 --> 00:20:39,090 Your bones hurt, your back, from carrying things. It's not easy. 274 00:20:39,260 --> 00:20:43,120 But it's a job for old people. Today's young people can't. 275 00:20:49,620 --> 00:20:52,810 Mel, can I have your autograph? Thank you very much. 276 00:20:52,810 --> 00:20:55,330 -Very kind. -My story. 277 00:20:55,330 --> 00:20:57,470 -Part of it at least. -A part of it. 278 00:21:06,540 --> 00:21:09,610 -Joan Armatrading. -I think that's it. 279 00:21:09,610 --> 00:21:12,080 -No, sorry... -Some Girls. 280 00:21:15,450 --> 00:21:18,270 Thank you for these discs, I appreciate it. 281 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:24,730 -Are you going to the concert today? -Yes, I thought it was time. 282 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,430 I don't think there won't be many more opportunities. 283 00:21:39,410 --> 00:21:42,850 Is it better to be in this formation of King Crimson than in the others? 284 00:21:42,850 --> 00:21:44,340 -Yes. -Why? 285 00:21:44,710 --> 00:21:47,860 You are talking about the formation of the 1970s. 286 00:21:48,260 --> 00:21:52,260 I wanted to play other types of music of music, other styles, 287 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:59,440 not to be immersed in something as serious as King Crimson. 288 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:04,150 In fact I wasn't interested in in returning to King Crimson 289 00:22:04,150 --> 00:22:12,260 for 40 years, but now I see that here I have more freedom than in any other band. 290 00:22:12,260 --> 00:22:15,490 In other words, I closed the circle. 291 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:21,170 And it's a pleasure, which it wasn't in the 70's, it was 292 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,850 -something traumatic. -Traumatic in what way? 293 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,560 Because I had problems with Robert 294 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:34,940 and Robert with us, it was a very very difficult situation 295 00:22:34,940 --> 00:22:36,930 at the time. 296 00:22:37,070 --> 00:22:40,080 It was all very serious, and if you you made a mistake 297 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,530 was like the end of the world. 298 00:22:45,010 --> 00:22:51,040 You didn't make mistakes, it was verboten, as they say in Deutsch. 299 00:22:52,870 --> 00:22:56,320 And if you were wrong, you looked ugly. 300 00:22:56,850 --> 00:22:59,590 And some of us live 301 00:23:02,500 --> 00:23:03,600 a hell. 302 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:12,670 Peace is a word of the sea and the wind 303 00:23:13,300 --> 00:23:21,690 Peace is a bird that sings while you smile 304 00:23:22,100 --> 00:23:24,120 -Jakko Jakszyk joined King Crimson. -Robert called me 305 00:23:24,120 --> 00:23:26,000 -after his time with 21st Century Schizoid Band, -when he was rehearsing with Schizoid Band. 306 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:27,310 -formed band -We had never spoken before. 307 00:23:27,310 --> 00:23:28,290 by former members of Crimson. 308 00:23:28,770 --> 00:23:31,620 I was very nervous, he said. "How's it going?" 309 00:23:32,390 --> 00:23:33,620 I said, "Honestly?" 310 00:23:33,620 --> 00:23:37,980 He said yes, and I replied "it's been three of the worst weeks of my life, 311 00:23:37,980 --> 00:23:41,790 as a musician." He said: "yes, I thought it would be like that." 312 00:23:41,790 --> 00:23:46,990 What many fail to see is that the original line-up of King Crimson 313 00:23:46,990 --> 00:23:49,380 contained a bunch of of motherfuckers. 314 00:23:49,470 --> 00:23:51,860 And the biggest son of a bitch is.... 315 00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:01,750 They need three drummers to replace you. 316 00:24:02,710 --> 00:24:05,530 Don't start. I've been told that all night. 317 00:24:07,090 --> 00:24:10,460 Everyone says so and it is very embarrassing. 318 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,330 The Supermarket Lady with an apple in her basket 319 00:24:19,330 --> 00:24:21,470 knocks on the manager's door. 320 00:24:23,310 --> 00:24:26,040 Twisting with the muzak of the horn on the shoe rack 321 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:28,400 puts his merchandise on the floor. 322 00:24:29,810 --> 00:24:31,260 When you make music, 323 00:24:32,230 --> 00:24:34,210 especially if it is spontaneous music, 324 00:24:34,380 --> 00:24:36,780 the act of entering it 325 00:24:36,780 --> 00:24:40,820 gives you the opportunity to let go everything you know. 326 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:46,370 Everything you have touched, experienced, heard, 327 00:24:46,370 --> 00:24:48,370 to enter the unknown. 328 00:24:48,370 --> 00:24:51,460 ...while polishing a saber, he knows how to season the stew. 329 00:24:53,110 --> 00:24:54,070 Greg Lake. 330 00:24:54,070 --> 00:24:58,190 "I want to be a star." In her immaculate velvet pants. 331 00:24:58,710 --> 00:25:00,910 He was paranoid and power-hungry, 332 00:25:00,910 --> 00:25:02,910 as well as narcissistic. 333 00:25:03,100 --> 00:25:05,820 It was exaggerated and rude. 334 00:25:06,330 --> 00:25:09,260 And then there's me. I don't know what you'll do with me. 335 00:25:09,260 --> 00:25:12,880 You will present me as a buffoon, jumping all over the place. 336 00:25:13,420 --> 00:25:15,210 Writing my texts and 337 00:25:15,590 --> 00:25:17,590 loading equipment and the like. 338 00:25:17,590 --> 00:25:21,320 -Is that what you are, a jester? -The jester is the power behind the throne, 339 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,320 I like to think of it that way. 340 00:25:26,940 --> 00:25:30,200 Peter considered himself the "magic fairy", 341 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,850 by King Crimson. 342 00:25:31,850 --> 00:25:35,360 But the relationship worked 343 00:25:35,360 --> 00:25:40,040 less and less, and at the end of 1971, Robert and Peter 344 00:25:41,140 --> 00:25:42,560 no longer together 345 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,210 on my initiative. 346 00:25:48,490 --> 00:25:50,100 The change is... 347 00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:53,550 part of what the band is. Change is essential. 348 00:25:53,550 --> 00:25:55,880 Otherwise, you become The Moody Blues, for God's sake. 349 00:25:56,130 --> 00:26:01,280 Your mother is very crazy cat food, cat food... 350 00:26:03,380 --> 00:26:05,680 One of the reasons I left Crimson I left Crimson 351 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,810 was because it had started 352 00:26:07,810 --> 00:26:10,270 to hate what he heard. 353 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,630 We played a... a very 354 00:26:15,820 --> 00:26:20,050 dark, and I remember, I think it was 355 00:26:20,050 --> 00:26:23,850 in San Francisco, or perhaps in Los Angeles, 356 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,320 and I thought "I hate this." 357 00:26:27,670 --> 00:26:31,380 "We are subjecting this to the public." 358 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,840 I have learned not to regret nothing, 359 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,040 to take advantage of my experiences in any way I can. 360 00:26:39,810 --> 00:26:44,070 I used to berate myself for leaving Crimson Crimson when I did, 361 00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:46,070 after the first disc. 362 00:26:46,850 --> 00:26:48,400 But then 363 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,610 life found its way around, 364 00:26:51,610 --> 00:26:56,370 and I can no longer regret it, as I did before. 365 00:26:56,870 --> 00:26:59,050 Ian was unable to make a decision. 366 00:26:59,430 --> 00:27:01,200 I see. 367 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,200 And he doesn't know it. 368 00:27:04,180 --> 00:27:06,980 And the only decision he made was the wrong one. 369 00:27:07,460 --> 00:27:09,730 I think I hurt him a lot. 370 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,610 And I... 371 00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:18,790 I am eternally sorry. 372 00:27:19,130 --> 00:27:22,920 I think for many years Ian thought 373 00:27:23,550 --> 00:27:27,430 that he was deliberately playing with his emotions 374 00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:30,740 to get back at him for leaving in 1969, 375 00:27:30,740 --> 00:27:35,280 -which was never the case. -Did his departure leave you indifferent? 376 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,280 No, it broke my heart. 377 00:27:38,170 --> 00:27:42,840 We were driving from Los Angeles to San Francisco. 378 00:27:43,100 --> 00:27:45,320 Ian was in the back seat, 379 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,680 and said to me 380 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,640 that he and Michael had decided to leave. 381 00:27:52,510 --> 00:27:54,630 And it broke my heart. 382 00:27:55,210 --> 00:27:57,360 It broke completely. 383 00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:01,510 I love you, Robert. I'm sorry for breaking your heart. I'm sorry. 384 00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:04,630 I offered my resignation 385 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,130 if that would keep Michael and Ian stayed. 386 00:28:08,410 --> 00:28:13,300 For me it was more important that the band went on, than for me to go on with King Crimson. 387 00:28:14,410 --> 00:28:18,410 And Ian said, "No, the band is more yours than ours." 388 00:28:19,170 --> 00:28:21,900 When we returned home for Christmas, 389 00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:24,150 in 1969, 390 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:28,790 David and John said "in January 391 00:28:28,790 --> 00:28:31,340 have a tour in Europe, and when they return 392 00:28:31,340 --> 00:28:33,370 are going to Asia." 393 00:28:33,370 --> 00:28:35,370 And I thought, "I can't take it anymore." 394 00:28:36,140 --> 00:28:37,210 "I can't and already." 395 00:28:38,450 --> 00:28:40,030 Some people can. 396 00:28:40,030 --> 00:28:42,520 And I admire them. 397 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:52,840 Everything OK? 398 00:28:53,460 --> 00:28:55,120 I find it hard to breathe. 399 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,380 My chest hurts. 400 00:29:14,170 --> 00:29:18,670 All are welcome to a hot date with King Crimson. 401 00:29:18,670 --> 00:29:21,170 The band has one request: 402 00:29:21,730 --> 00:29:25,500 Please refrain from audio or video recording 403 00:29:25,500 --> 00:29:29,720 with their marvelous devices. 404 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,780 Access this moment, 405 00:29:32,780 --> 00:29:36,240 use your ears and eyes to record, 406 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,400 and let's celebrate. 407 00:30:08,490 --> 00:30:12,050 Tomorrow morning I will see where I have breakfast 408 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,840 and I'll pack my bags. It's too late to practice. 409 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,740 -Yes. -Y... 410 00:30:17,740 --> 00:30:19,780 if I miss a day of practice, 411 00:30:19,780 --> 00:30:21,780 and essentially 412 00:30:21,950 --> 00:30:23,330 of sleep, too, 413 00:30:23,710 --> 00:30:26,050 this affects my performance. 414 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,560 -Substantially. -I see. 415 00:30:28,910 --> 00:30:32,680 -Y... -Can't you rest for a day, Robert? 416 00:30:33,730 --> 00:30:36,350 Not if I'm going to play demanding parts 417 00:30:36,350 --> 00:30:38,710 such as Larks' IV or Fracture. 418 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,390 Ask an athlete 419 00:30:43,390 --> 00:30:46,840 "Why don't you just take a day or two and do nothing?" 420 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,360 The answer is that you lose calisthenic condition. 421 00:30:51,770 --> 00:30:53,630 Look, another aisle. 422 00:31:26,090 --> 00:31:27,770 Why is it important to do this now? 423 00:31:28,750 --> 00:31:31,120 For me, because I am old and because 424 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:34,430 I feel like I have concrete in my veins, every day. 425 00:31:34,790 --> 00:31:38,160 Literally, I am tense, I'm a tense man, 426 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:41,810 my hamstrings and legs are tense. and legs. 427 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,740 Do you ever feel intimidated 428 00:32:07,740 --> 00:32:10,920 for being responsible for Robert Fripp's guitars? 429 00:32:11,070 --> 00:32:13,680 Not for the guitars, for the rack. 430 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,190 -Why? -Basically 431 00:32:16,190 --> 00:32:21,030 is the stage's operating mechanism. If the rack does not work, 432 00:32:21,310 --> 00:32:26,510 there are parts that we cannot replace, and we have to information must be saved in various formats 433 00:32:26,510 --> 00:32:28,880 in case something happens. 434 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,980 A replacement cannot be purchased. 435 00:32:30,980 --> 00:32:33,660 Everything else, I could replace it within 24 hours. 436 00:32:33,850 --> 00:32:37,460 But this is an irreplaceable artifact with an irreplaceable sound 437 00:32:37,460 --> 00:32:40,060 he has built over the years. over the years. 438 00:32:40,060 --> 00:32:43,580 You know, you have to be vigilant. 439 00:32:43,910 --> 00:32:45,410 How long are you staying? 440 00:32:45,590 --> 00:32:49,420 -Until they finish with this. -What have you got for us, boy? 441 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,730 There is a nun. 442 00:32:51,730 --> 00:32:54,340 -A nun? -The progressive nun. 443 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,500 -Really? -Really. 444 00:32:57,500 --> 00:32:59,940 The one that comes to the concerts? 445 00:32:59,940 --> 00:33:01,940 What is so progressive about the nun? 446 00:33:07,410 --> 00:33:08,800 Can you see my socks? 447 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:10,730 They are barely visible. 448 00:33:12,010 --> 00:33:13,050 What a pity. 449 00:33:13,850 --> 00:33:16,260 You like this elevator, don't you? 450 00:33:16,260 --> 00:33:19,310 It is a contrast to what is happening. 451 00:33:19,310 --> 00:33:24,120 -Contrast? -Symbolizes that the nun is ascending. 452 00:33:27,170 --> 00:33:28,900 That I'm taking shortcuts? 453 00:33:28,900 --> 00:33:31,330 -Is there a shortcut to heaven? -Yes. 454 00:33:31,330 --> 00:33:33,940 Really? Which one is it? 455 00:33:33,940 --> 00:33:35,560 Love. 456 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:41,470 For me, King Crimson works as 457 00:33:41,470 --> 00:33:44,030 if I were to listen to a friend who tells me 458 00:33:44,030 --> 00:33:46,630 what he sees in me. 459 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,290 Sometimes I agree, sometimes I don't. 460 00:33:51,940 --> 00:33:53,930 Sometimes it hurts. 461 00:33:54,350 --> 00:33:58,140 It feels like going to the dentist. 462 00:33:59,450 --> 00:34:01,130 Deeper, more. 463 00:34:02,990 --> 00:34:07,170 In the Liturgy it is very important to take a step back 464 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:12,120 to give place to the Word, to the sound. 465 00:34:12,230 --> 00:34:14,640 Here we are, praying. 466 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,820 From one choir to another. 467 00:34:17,820 --> 00:34:20,990 How to say one sentence and the next 468 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,080 flowing from side to side. 469 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,670 What is very important 470 00:34:26,670 --> 00:34:30,350 is not to try to make your own solo 471 00:34:31,190 --> 00:34:35,360 and think more about things 472 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:40,240 that they have to say to each other, rather than what you want to tell them 473 00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:42,760 to others. 474 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,950 Robert says not to touch anything 475 00:34:46,350 --> 00:34:48,480 until you need to. 476 00:34:48,780 --> 00:34:53,410 Some of the musicians could stand on the stage 477 00:34:53,410 --> 00:34:55,940 without touching anything, listening to nothing else. 478 00:34:56,100 --> 00:34:59,380 This music involves a lot of listening. 479 00:35:03,190 --> 00:35:05,530 When you look at King Crimson, 480 00:35:06,050 --> 00:35:09,470 is like seeing a man's face. 481 00:35:09,470 --> 00:35:12,060 You know your wrinkles, 482 00:35:12,060 --> 00:35:15,440 and what remains and never changes 483 00:35:15,500 --> 00:35:18,840 is the depth of his gaze. 484 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,720 And growing old is beautiful. 485 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,930 It is very beautiful. 486 00:35:24,110 --> 00:35:27,340 If we talk about art, I don't find it interesting at all. 487 00:35:27,340 --> 00:35:30,240 to have a naked young man in front of me 488 00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:32,260 to paint it. 489 00:35:32,260 --> 00:35:35,820 Beauty is in the depths. 490 00:35:36,660 --> 00:35:39,160 Better give me this old man. 491 00:35:48,530 --> 00:35:52,620 I don't have heroes, but if I did, Casals would be one. 492 00:35:52,620 --> 00:35:56,150 At the age of 82 he was still practicing and they asked him: 493 00:35:56,580 --> 00:35:59,810 "Paul, why are you still practicing?" and he said: 494 00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:02,800 "I think I'm getting better." 495 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:08,070 Me, every day of the tour, in the dressing room, if I don't have interviews, 496 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,210 I am practicing, and in 497 00:36:11,540 --> 00:36:13,440 the last few days I have been 498 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,670 redigitizing my section in Neurotica 499 00:36:19,490 --> 00:36:23,240 and refining certain specific aspects 500 00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:25,940 of my callisthenic practice. 501 00:36:27,010 --> 00:36:30,210 I don't know to what extent anyone in the audience 502 00:36:30,210 --> 00:36:33,130 could tell the difference, but 503 00:36:33,130 --> 00:36:36,520 in a year's time, you may notice it. 504 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,070 Because it will have an effect on the band. 505 00:36:49,550 --> 00:36:51,260 But I have to say that 506 00:36:51,260 --> 00:36:54,830 answer your questions and talk to you these days 507 00:36:54,830 --> 00:36:57,490 affected my execution last night. 508 00:37:03,380 --> 00:37:07,440 In the bands I've played, other than jazz, 509 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,680 in the pop world, 510 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,530 tend to learn a song, rehearse it and play it 511 00:37:12,530 --> 00:37:16,100 the same every night. 512 00:37:16,730 --> 00:37:19,420 In King Crimson that doesn't happen. 513 00:37:19,420 --> 00:37:21,960 Either because we improvise or because we 514 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:25,540 because we are wrong, every night is different. 515 00:37:33,490 --> 00:37:36,380 You can't make it to to the sound check 516 00:37:36,380 --> 00:37:39,220 and play and that's it. We have to rehearse. 517 00:37:39,220 --> 00:37:42,560 And now we have a huge repertoire 518 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,250 and we change the program every night. 519 00:37:45,250 --> 00:37:48,810 And that becomes a problem, 520 00:37:48,810 --> 00:37:51,050 remember the songs, 521 00:37:51,050 --> 00:37:56,550 because if you haven't touched them for weeks, and we didn't touch them in the test, 522 00:37:56,830 --> 00:38:00,470 can be a disaster if we are not careful. 523 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,540 Pat forgot his ticket. 524 00:38:06,540 --> 00:38:08,540 -Again? -In what measure? 525 00:38:08,540 --> 00:38:11,260 You have to enter more into that compass, 526 00:38:11,260 --> 00:38:15,470 and then you come back at full volume for the... 527 00:38:15,470 --> 00:38:18,740 You and Jeremy are playing 528 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,800 at the end of that sentence. 529 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,390 I do the second round, Pat, that's why.... 530 00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:29,260 The second one, you say? For me that's the third one. 531 00:38:29,260 --> 00:38:33,220 No, I played it well, because I go after.... 532 00:38:33,220 --> 00:38:37,800 -And I... -The one you play is the other one. 533 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,310 I'll do the second one, okay? 534 00:38:42,690 --> 00:38:47,300 A good professional musician knows what he is doing, and he does it. 535 00:38:47,550 --> 00:38:50,700 The problem for me is that they only do what they know. 536 00:38:51,030 --> 00:38:53,580 I would ask for three things. 537 00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:56,260 The ability to lead, 538 00:38:57,180 --> 00:38:59,200 the ability to support, 539 00:38:59,330 --> 00:39:01,960 and the ability to do nothing. 540 00:39:05,630 --> 00:39:11,540 You need to have a common pulse, and in this band we play with a click, but we play with a 541 00:39:11,540 --> 00:39:13,680 is not touched by the click. 542 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:18,680 You play with the other members, it is played with them and for them. 543 00:39:20,110 --> 00:39:23,350 You do not count '1,2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2...'. 544 00:39:23,350 --> 00:39:25,650 You feel it. 545 00:39:25,650 --> 00:39:29,160 And the accents. 546 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,880 What you describe is a groove, not a math class. 547 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,190 Yes. Math class starts when you have 548 00:39:36,190 --> 00:39:40,690 3 or 4 musicians playing in different different metrics and at some point 549 00:39:40,690 --> 00:39:44,650 have to change on a single note. 550 00:39:44,890 --> 00:39:47,650 Counting is not fun, 551 00:39:47,650 --> 00:39:50,390 and I don't count much, 552 00:39:50,390 --> 00:39:53,050 but there are moments in the concert when I have to do it 553 00:39:53,050 --> 00:39:56,160 because we made too many mistakes. 554 00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:00,540 And I no longer have the confidence to say. "we can play this without making a mistake." 555 00:40:00,540 --> 00:40:04,740 Sometimes, especially when I'm asked to play a solo, 556 00:40:04,740 --> 00:40:06,850 which usually happens every night, 557 00:40:06,850 --> 00:40:10,080 you begin to discover who you are. 558 00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:16,450 If you are climbing a mountain, you know where to put your safety equipment, 559 00:40:16,730 --> 00:40:19,530 and hanging there, you will discover something about yourself. 560 00:40:19,530 --> 00:40:21,850 because you are all alone. 561 00:40:23,730 --> 00:40:26,140 It is a whole experience of letting go 562 00:40:26,140 --> 00:40:30,340 when it works, because you don't feel like you're doing anything. 563 00:40:30,340 --> 00:40:34,250 When it goes well, you feel invincible. 564 00:40:34,650 --> 00:40:38,360 You may listen to the recording and you don't like it anymore, but in the moment 565 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,170 while it happens, you enjoy every second of it. 566 00:40:41,170 --> 00:40:44,260 You don't feel like it's you doing it, it's just 567 00:40:44,260 --> 00:40:46,980 a self-governing current. 568 00:40:46,980 --> 00:40:49,910 It sounds to me like you're saying stop getting in the way of the music. 569 00:40:49,910 --> 00:40:52,480 Rather, you must stop to get in the way of yourself. 570 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,910 It's not getting out of the way of the music, it's getting out of your own way. 571 00:40:55,910 --> 00:40:59,300 He chose you because you do it a certain way, 572 00:40:59,300 --> 00:41:01,000 and he feels it will work. 573 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:04,830 Robert walks into a room and basically says 574 00:41:04,830 --> 00:41:07,930 "I play this. What are you going to do?" 575 00:41:08,430 --> 00:41:11,060 And now you have to find a solution. 576 00:41:11,240 --> 00:41:16,190 In 2013 he told me, "You have to reinvent rock drumming." 577 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,190 "You have to reinvent the way 578 00:41:20,190 --> 00:41:24,140 how percussions interact in a rock orchestra. in a rock orchestra". 579 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,690 I like Robert's leadership. 580 00:41:28,690 --> 00:41:32,670 In the beginning I was a bit like Miles Davis. 581 00:41:32,910 --> 00:41:36,570 It's about bringing together the five most most interesting people you know, 582 00:41:36,570 --> 00:41:38,660 put them in a study, 583 00:41:38,660 --> 00:41:43,280 throw away the key, and after a week you'll come up with something interesting. you'll come out with something interesting. 584 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,280 If they didn't kill each other. 585 00:43:01,730 --> 00:43:03,900 It was the best concert of my life. 586 00:43:03,900 --> 00:43:07,300 This is the third time I've seen them, and by far the best. 587 00:43:08,330 --> 00:43:09,560 What is King Crimson? 588 00:43:09,980 --> 00:43:13,720 It's the devil, that's what it is. 589 00:43:15,430 --> 00:43:17,180 Many people 590 00:43:17,180 --> 00:43:21,150 have undoubtedly had a peak experience 591 00:43:21,460 --> 00:43:24,370 at concerts. For some, 592 00:43:24,370 --> 00:43:28,160 it may even have been the peak experience of his life. 593 00:43:29,490 --> 00:43:32,270 But what is also interesting 594 00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:34,560 is that they want to repeat it. 595 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,930 And that's when it all gets complicated, 596 00:43:39,930 --> 00:43:43,880 I've never had to deal with that except for King Crimson. 597 00:43:44,500 --> 00:43:50,320 There are people in the audience who perhaps lived the ultimate experience of their life 598 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,620 at a King Crimson concert, and they come back, and of course they want to repeat it. 599 00:43:56,450 --> 00:43:58,340 When I started seeing that, 600 00:43:58,340 --> 00:44:01,380 I empathized more with Robert. 601 00:44:01,730 --> 00:44:03,680 When dealing with the public, 602 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:08,290 sometimes seems antagonistic or arrogant, 603 00:44:09,110 --> 00:44:12,390 and I understand that, because what do you do with someone 604 00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:15,690 who wants to relive his peak experience? 605 00:44:36,870 --> 00:44:40,920 Call her Daughter of the Moon, 606 00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:48,060 dancing in the shallow waters shallow waters of a river. 607 00:44:49,350 --> 00:44:54,010 Lonely Daughter of the Moon, 608 00:44:54,010 --> 00:44:59,120 dreaming under the shade of the willow tree. 609 00:45:03,340 --> 00:45:09,530 Talking to the trees of strange spider webs, 610 00:45:09,530 --> 00:45:14,870 sleeping on the steps of a fountain. 611 00:45:15,620 --> 00:45:21,570 Shaking silver rods to the song of the night birds... 612 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,970 At a certain point, 613 00:45:23,970 --> 00:45:27,910 we can notice that there is no distance at all 614 00:45:28,100 --> 00:45:32,250 between us and the music, and at that moment, 615 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,970 all words disappear. 616 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:39,950 If we wait 617 00:45:39,950 --> 00:45:44,480 another peak experience, we denied ourselves the opportunity. 618 00:45:45,010 --> 00:45:49,550 If we set aside our demands and expectations, 619 00:45:49,550 --> 00:45:53,650 we return to that point of silence within us, 620 00:45:55,570 --> 00:45:57,770 something is put within our reach. 621 00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:08,360 The direct experience of being linked to the music, 622 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,310 with silence, 623 00:46:10,310 --> 00:46:12,660 with the real, the authentic, 624 00:46:12,660 --> 00:46:18,370 the real thing is within our reach, if we take ourselves out of the equation. 625 00:46:20,870 --> 00:46:22,950 Seeing things as a child, 626 00:46:23,700 --> 00:46:27,840 to abandon the concepts of what King Crimson is, 627 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:32,660 and interacting with King Crimson puts that experience within our reach. 628 00:46:33,260 --> 00:46:37,730 Once we have lived through that experience, 629 00:46:38,580 --> 00:46:41,580 what do we do to access 630 00:46:41,580 --> 00:46:45,190 to that open space, innocent and silent 631 00:46:45,190 --> 00:46:48,690 where everything is possible once again? 632 00:46:48,870 --> 00:46:50,320 And then: 633 00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:53,670 There it is. 634 00:46:55,670 --> 00:46:57,610 It never disappears. 635 00:46:57,980 --> 00:47:02,700 It never, ever goes away, that quality of experience 636 00:47:02,700 --> 00:47:05,050 is always present 637 00:47:05,050 --> 00:47:09,050 but we do not. 638 00:47:09,970 --> 00:47:13,840 And the focus of our personal effort changes. 639 00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:18,920 We are not looking for the music, because music never disappears. 640 00:47:19,710 --> 00:47:23,730 The goal is now to be personally present. 641 00:47:25,730 --> 00:47:27,930 Is it OK? 642 00:47:28,850 --> 00:47:32,400 -It is what it is. -I know, but it could be something else. 643 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,630 -It could be something else, Toby. -It's okay. 644 00:47:35,780 --> 00:47:38,610 I want to ask you about your unique circumstances. 645 00:47:38,610 --> 00:47:44,220 You are free not to respond, to tell me how to use it, 646 00:47:44,220 --> 00:47:46,330 or you can send me to hell, whichever you prefer. 647 00:47:46,330 --> 00:47:48,460 What are your unique circumstances? 648 00:47:48,460 --> 00:47:51,960 What do you mean? My colostomy bag? 649 00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,990 -Your health. -Well... my special circumstances... 650 00:47:55,990 --> 00:47:58,990 They are not special, they are horrible. 651 00:47:58,990 --> 00:48:02,420 But many suffer from them. I have 652 00:48:02,420 --> 00:48:04,730 stage 4 colon cancer. 653 00:48:04,730 --> 00:48:07,970 I was diagnosed six years ago. 654 00:48:07,970 --> 00:48:12,960 I had 20% of my colon and prostate removed, 655 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,630 the third part of the liver, the gallbladder, 656 00:48:16,630 --> 00:48:19,060 half of the left lung, 657 00:48:19,060 --> 00:48:22,250 pieces of both lungs, 658 00:48:22,250 --> 00:48:25,340 I received radiation and ablations. 659 00:48:25,340 --> 00:48:29,710 And I've been unhappy ever since. 660 00:48:29,710 --> 00:48:34,990 The pain is constant, and life on tour is difficult. 661 00:48:37,230 --> 00:48:40,170 My usual oncologist 662 00:48:40,170 --> 00:48:42,330 gave me "the talk". 663 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:47,400 He suggested that I start thinking 664 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,510 in doing everything I want to do in my life 665 00:48:50,510 --> 00:48:54,070 while I still can. He told me 666 00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:57,230 "one to three years maybe." 667 00:48:58,050 --> 00:49:01,470 Why is it meaningful to you 668 00:49:01,470 --> 00:49:07,460 -Spend your time playing? -Why do this? 669 00:49:07,900 --> 00:49:09,960 There are several reasons. 670 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:14,860 The simplest, but also 671 00:49:14,860 --> 00:49:19,540 the most direct, is that this is what I do. 672 00:49:19,720 --> 00:49:22,700 I am, more or less, cut out for this. 673 00:49:22,700 --> 00:49:25,430 If you want to ask me what music is, 674 00:49:25,430 --> 00:49:27,840 what it does or what it can 675 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:33,300 bring to the world, I believe that it can restore grace, 676 00:49:33,300 --> 00:49:36,620 even for an instant, in someone's life. 677 00:49:36,620 --> 00:49:38,740 And that makes a huge difference. 678 00:49:38,740 --> 00:49:42,300 And I think that's one of the things that 679 00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:47,440 makes a difference in people's lives, that's what's important. 680 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,920 To be able to remember something. 681 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,830 You may not even know what it reminds you of, 682 00:49:54,260 --> 00:49:56,770 but suddenly you are in contact with something. 683 00:49:57,540 --> 00:50:01,370 When you face death, everything changes. 684 00:50:01,370 --> 00:50:04,960 It is no longer a strange idea, 685 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,610 is a reality to be confronted. 686 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,740 Someone comes along and says, "You're going to die." 687 00:50:11,740 --> 00:50:14,220 And much sooner than you would like. 688 00:50:14,630 --> 00:50:17,710 And for me that meant 689 00:50:18,310 --> 00:50:21,110 that I looked at my life and 690 00:50:22,070 --> 00:50:25,220 I felt very unsatisfied and unhappy. 691 00:50:25,470 --> 00:50:29,410 for how I lived it, what I did, 692 00:50:29,410 --> 00:50:32,750 and now I have made an effort 693 00:50:32,860 --> 00:50:36,000 for being a better person and doing things better. 694 00:50:40,650 --> 00:50:41,920 Take that. 695 00:50:46,250 --> 00:50:50,280 One day I woke up and these words echoed in my head: 696 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,700 "I accept the inevitability of my own death." 697 00:50:57,270 --> 00:50:59,890 I don't know if you have had the experience 698 00:50:59,890 --> 00:51:03,960 that the universe is expanding and the momentum is opening up. 699 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,380 and everything stops. 700 00:51:07,220 --> 00:51:11,040 Time stands still, everything stops. 701 00:51:11,190 --> 00:51:13,840 And there is only one moment left 702 00:51:16,230 --> 00:51:19,130 in which you are a part. 703 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:50,310 He has told me several times "David, a part of me 704 00:51:50,310 --> 00:51:53,970 wants to drop everything and go drink cider at the pub." 705 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:58,430 But, by the way, he created a life in which that is not possible. 706 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:01,050 One thing he does is finish his money 707 00:52:01,050 --> 00:52:03,510 when it receives a large amount. 708 00:52:03,510 --> 00:52:09,260 He spends it. His wife is furious. But it's intentional. 709 00:52:09,260 --> 00:52:12,300 Build, say, a greenhouse that costs £100,000, 710 00:52:12,300 --> 00:52:16,550 and says "Gee, there's no money, I have to go back to work." 711 00:52:16,550 --> 00:52:20,450 Creates a situation 712 00:52:20,450 --> 00:52:25,970 that forces him to work hard, to be able to work in this environment. 713 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:33,990 This is the third or fourth time 714 00:52:33,990 --> 00:52:40,780 I see King Crimson and I love them. 715 00:52:41,750 --> 00:52:47,010 And what is so special or unique about them? 716 00:52:47,010 --> 00:52:50,770 I love Tony Levin. 717 00:52:53,310 --> 00:52:54,410 It is special. 718 00:52:57,100 --> 00:53:01,000 I hope the band enjoys it, have fun. 719 00:53:01,180 --> 00:53:03,300 I hope you will be satisfied. 720 00:53:03,300 --> 00:53:07,840 And I think it's a basic basic human interaction. 721 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,990 I didn't come here to sing and dance, to drink beer, 722 00:53:11,990 --> 00:53:15,310 falling down drunk and not knowing which band I saw. 723 00:53:16,250 --> 00:53:17,810 See what the ad says. 724 00:53:21,930 --> 00:53:25,830 They will take us out if we take pictures at the concert. 725 00:53:27,150 --> 00:53:32,090 Only at the end of the concert, or they confiscate our camera. 726 00:53:33,260 --> 00:53:36,370 -You don't live anywhere near here. -We live in Seattle, Washington. 727 00:53:36,370 --> 00:53:39,870 -And they came by plane... -Just for this concert. 728 00:53:39,870 --> 00:53:45,850 -May I ask how much it cost you? -$4 or 5,000, I think. 729 00:53:46,730 --> 00:53:49,830 Robert is not always nice to fans. with the fans. 730 00:53:49,830 --> 00:53:54,270 Do you think there's something masochistic in being a King Crimson fan? 731 00:53:54,270 --> 00:53:58,360 I think it's a beautiful thing. It's part of the experience. 732 00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,440 He is true to himself and I respect him. 733 00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:05,620 In fact, he actually from a concert, personally. 734 00:54:06,030 --> 00:54:10,040 It got me out of the Paramount in Seattle in the mid-1990s. 735 00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:15,590 I was in the front row and had a pass pass to take pictures during the second encore, 736 00:54:15,590 --> 00:54:19,480 but I had the camera and I thought "what's wrong with it if I take a couple of pictures?" 737 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,820 And suddenly I was ambushed. 738 00:54:22,820 --> 00:54:26,280 I was taken out of the room during Matte Kudasai 739 00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,780 And the guy said to me: 740 00:54:28,780 --> 00:54:31,590 "Fripp's on the shitter." 741 00:54:31,590 --> 00:54:35,050 And they took the camera roll away from me but they let me go in and watch the rest of the concert. 742 00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:40,520 Do you feel that the relationship between the band and its fans 743 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,660 is it bilateral or unilateral? 744 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,620 -Completely bilateral. -Yes? 745 00:54:45,620 --> 00:54:49,450 The musicians and the audience have to 746 00:54:49,450 --> 00:54:52,070 be present to make the music happen. 747 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,940 And that's King Crimson. 748 00:54:59,490 --> 00:55:02,700 It's like Scientology or something like that. 749 00:55:02,700 --> 00:55:06,240 It's quasi-scientific or religious bullshit. 750 00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:10,000 A freak club. 751 00:55:14,170 --> 00:55:18,770 It is something arcane, it is an occult experience. 752 00:55:18,770 --> 00:55:22,430 This whole "Discipline" thing. 753 00:55:22,430 --> 00:55:26,870 Most people don't understand it, but those who do, do understand. 754 00:55:27,010 --> 00:55:29,820 I've played in several bands, and sometimes 755 00:55:29,820 --> 00:55:33,400 something magical happens. 756 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:38,930 You feel that the music creates itself, that you touched an energy. 757 00:55:38,930 --> 00:55:43,090 King Crimson are the best at this. When they are playing 758 00:55:43,090 --> 00:55:46,740 you think "They are flying. They are possessed 759 00:55:46,740 --> 00:55:52,390 For something bigger than them." And I feel like for that to happen, 760 00:55:52,940 --> 00:55:54,970 conditions have to be to be ideal. 761 00:55:54,970 --> 00:55:59,120 And if an idiot in the audience takes a picture when they shouldn't, 762 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:02,970 the structure disintegrates, the momentum is lost. 763 00:56:02,970 --> 00:56:06,920 It is a super intense experience 764 00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:11,470 but the process and the conditions to get there are so fragile. 765 00:56:16,340 --> 00:56:17,870 You're not filming me. 766 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:26,130 Working with Robert is conflicting because people consider him a god. 767 00:56:26,540 --> 00:56:33,380 I don't know if he realizes it, encourages it, or hates it, but it happens. or hates it, but it happens. 768 00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:54,550 It was hard for me to deal with that all the time. 769 00:56:54,900 --> 00:56:58,920 "What would Robert say about this? What does Robert think?" 770 00:56:59,290 --> 00:57:01,840 Don't ask me, ask Robert. 771 00:57:02,470 --> 00:57:07,470 Adrian, as a frontman, is not essentially an ensemble musician. 772 00:57:08,100 --> 00:57:12,410 And I don't think he's interested in being an ensemble musician. 773 00:57:19,590 --> 00:57:22,900 After creating that music, my hair fell out. 774 00:57:22,900 --> 00:57:25,670 It was, indeed, very stressful 775 00:57:25,670 --> 00:57:28,320 under a microscope. 776 00:57:29,230 --> 00:57:35,500 In my partnership with him, he let me get away with a lot, 777 00:57:35,500 --> 00:57:38,210 because I wanted to get as much as he could out of me. 778 00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:43,430 I was willing to let myself follow my own vision. 779 00:57:45,490 --> 00:57:47,720 From the beginning I always felt that it was 780 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:50,520 a partnership, that we were co-writers, that we were co-writers 781 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:55,040 and we were guitar partners. On the stage, we were two guitarists. 782 00:57:55,040 --> 00:58:01,130 with contrasting styles, but we played together together, like two sides of a coin. 783 00:58:03,690 --> 00:58:07,810 There was a dynamic on stage, 784 00:58:07,810 --> 00:58:10,170 a guitarist having fun like a puppy, 785 00:58:10,170 --> 00:58:13,870 with a pink or blue suit, 786 00:58:13,870 --> 00:58:16,520 and the black-haired master sitting on a stool, 787 00:58:16,520 --> 00:58:20,780 looking with some disapproval at the puppy, 788 00:58:20,780 --> 00:58:24,120 who turned around, gave feedback and twisted the neck of the guitar. 789 00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,260 And he'd say "What did you think? Not bad, huh?" 790 00:58:27,500 --> 00:58:29,280 Let's go further. 791 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:33,270 Something else happened 90% of the time. 792 00:58:33,270 --> 00:58:37,280 A beautiful partnership. 793 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:42,070 It was something unique, and I loved and respected him so much, 794 00:58:42,070 --> 00:58:46,750 before, during, and after. It was something 795 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,950 that cannot be obtained elsewhere. 796 00:58:50,950 --> 00:58:57,190 Robert generates situations for the music to emerge that 797 00:58:57,190 --> 00:59:00,580 otherwise it's not possible, and for me that was worth everything. 798 00:59:01,370 --> 00:59:05,450 And we had fun, we laughed, and we're still friends, 799 00:59:05,450 --> 00:59:07,900 and the fact that 800 00:59:07,900 --> 00:59:10,850 he would like to go on and do something without me 801 00:59:10,850 --> 00:59:13,360 it hurts me, I wish I hadn't done it, 802 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:16,230 and I sincerely believe that he needs me. 803 00:59:18,610 --> 00:59:23,860 What I'm curious about now is: where's the new stuff? 804 00:59:23,860 --> 00:59:27,940 New material, because King Crimson always created. 805 00:59:27,940 --> 00:59:31,520 We didn't just play the music we had already made. 806 01:00:24,110 --> 01:00:26,500 Do you find it necessary to suffer for art? 807 01:00:30,770 --> 01:00:32,430 It will be a tough road. 808 01:00:32,620 --> 01:00:35,320 And with many potholes. 809 01:00:35,530 --> 01:00:39,210 Some people get used to to these potholes, 810 01:00:39,210 --> 01:00:43,670 to bruises and wounds, 811 01:00:43,670 --> 01:00:45,760 better than others. 812 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,480 Overall, I consider myself quite resilient, 813 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,060 You will see that I am not 814 01:00:51,060 --> 01:00:54,890 completely ruined as a human being. 815 01:00:54,890 --> 01:00:59,710 The process of performing music I still find it 816 01:00:59,710 --> 01:01:04,300 a bit absurd, and if you don't find the absurdity absurdity, I think you're lost. 817 01:01:10,990 --> 01:01:14,460 What attracted me was the electrical world. 818 01:01:14,460 --> 01:01:18,880 It's an electrical maelstrom, you're in the eye of the storm, 819 01:01:19,220 --> 01:01:23,280 and you have to stand there and 820 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,890 playing music with coherence. 821 01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,520 The personality of King Crimson 822 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,200 was very clear. A kind of 823 01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:40,100 of royal, majestic, hidden figure... 824 01:01:40,100 --> 01:01:44,380 ...trying to get out of somewhere. 825 01:01:44,380 --> 01:01:48,250 From a monumental obstruction, a little like 826 01:01:48,250 --> 01:01:53,670 an unfinished sculpture by Michelangelo, a huge block of marble 827 01:01:53,670 --> 01:01:58,190 and a figure emerging halfway out of the block. 828 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:02,300 King Crimson was like that. A howling roar. 829 01:02:02,710 --> 01:02:04,720 A majestic animal 830 01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,090 trying to emerge from something. 831 01:02:12,810 --> 01:02:18,280 And Robert chose the staff, with their unique personalities. 832 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,360 He washed his hands ten times a day. 833 01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:25,460 and my mess became too much for him. 834 01:02:25,460 --> 01:02:29,190 He started going crazy. He would put tape on my cymbals, 835 01:02:29,190 --> 01:02:33,110 to counteract my disorder. At some point I left. 836 01:02:57,930 --> 01:03:02,290 When you go on stage, what's at stake? What's at stake, what do you have to lose? 837 01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,910 I would say: What do we have to gain? 838 01:03:05,910 --> 01:03:08,650 I would start with the positive, not the negative. 839 01:03:09,180 --> 01:03:12,850 If we describe or state 840 01:03:12,850 --> 01:03:16,010 what we have to gain, we will know what we have to lose. 841 01:03:16,010 --> 01:03:19,990 Does that make sense? Then why didn't you ask that? 842 01:03:19,990 --> 01:03:23,020 -Because I'm a fucking asshole. -Okay, that's fine. 843 01:03:23,020 --> 01:03:25,240 So, what we have to gain 844 01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:30,640 is to be in the presence of music when you enter the room. 845 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:36,100 To be in the presence of an audience, with music, when it accesses the enclosure. 846 01:03:36,100 --> 01:03:39,850 That we can win. So what do we have to lose? what do we have to lose? 847 01:03:41,730 --> 01:03:43,330 That event. 848 01:03:43,330 --> 01:03:47,260 What are the consequences of not winning that? 849 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,030 A broken heart. 850 01:03:50,590 --> 01:03:53,060 A broken heart. 851 01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:56,900 How do you define that? How do you live it? 852 01:04:06,140 --> 01:04:08,550 As if my mother died. 853 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:16,820 And when that happens because of the selfishness of the musicians, 854 01:04:16,820 --> 01:04:19,440 I get angry. 855 01:04:22,270 --> 01:04:26,190 They trampled on my mother, careless and ignorant, 856 01:04:26,190 --> 01:04:29,520 and that infuriates me. 857 01:04:38,490 --> 01:04:42,220 I'm actually glad I'm not in the band. I was glad to get out. 858 01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,230 It is not a very pleasant place. 859 01:04:47,950 --> 01:04:53,940 You live surrounded by uncertainty. 860 01:04:56,240 --> 01:05:04,180 When it was over, I felt like I'd had an infection for ten years. 861 01:05:09,090 --> 01:05:15,850 As a young man, I wanted to play with the best and do something special and unusual, 862 01:05:15,850 --> 01:05:22,580 and I did. The idea of continuing to do the same thing, with the same musicians in the same context, 863 01:05:22,580 --> 01:05:25,020 makes no sense. 864 01:05:25,020 --> 01:05:27,020 I would be very unhappy in the current band. 865 01:05:27,180 --> 01:05:29,390 Very unhappy. 866 01:05:34,790 --> 01:05:37,490 I left King Crimson in the 70s. 867 01:05:37,490 --> 01:05:41,480 There is a 40-year period in which I did not know 868 01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,880 what was going on with King Crimson, and I didn't want to know. 869 01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:46,880 I was done with that. 870 01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:52,760 Robert called me 30 years later, when I was playing with the Schizoid Band, 871 01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,810 and apologized to me 872 01:05:55,810 --> 01:05:58,580 for certain things he may have said, 873 01:05:58,580 --> 01:06:01,860 for being cruel to me in those days, 874 01:06:01,860 --> 01:06:06,860 and said that the suffering he caused me 875 01:06:06,860 --> 01:06:11,090 he caused it to himself tenfold. 876 01:06:11,610 --> 01:06:15,550 It was nice for me to clear the air. 877 01:06:15,550 --> 01:06:19,420 I gained a better understanding of Robert 878 01:06:19,420 --> 01:06:23,730 -and to the journey he undertakes. -What did you understand? 879 01:06:23,730 --> 01:06:28,800 That he is now well. He has softened. He is a good person. 880 01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,700 But he fought his own battles. 881 01:06:34,330 --> 01:06:38,630 At the time he told me very hurtful things to me, 882 01:06:39,110 --> 01:06:44,430 and obviously he lived through his own traumas. 883 01:06:45,430 --> 01:06:50,110 The world I lived in was crazy, upside down. 884 01:06:51,740 --> 01:06:54,080 In an instant, 885 01:06:54,220 --> 01:06:56,710 I could see that I did not exist. 886 01:06:56,710 --> 01:06:59,000 It was frightening. 887 01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,840 Soon after, I went on a retreat. 888 01:07:03,550 --> 01:07:10,090 At Sherborne House, Mr. Bennett's International Mr. Bennett's International Academy of Continuing Education. 889 01:07:10,550 --> 01:07:13,200 One of the phrases I remember is: 890 01:07:14,100 --> 01:07:19,270 "If you possess an unfriendly nature and people dislike you 891 01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,640 this is no obstacle to work." 892 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,640 Yes! 893 01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:28,600 This man is talking to me! 894 01:07:29,380 --> 01:07:31,500 I met him a month before 895 01:07:31,500 --> 01:07:33,500 of his death 896 01:07:33,500 --> 01:07:38,520 and in retrospect I see that meeting him was very important. 897 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:42,300 I went downstairs after listening to Mr. Bennett's Mr. Bennett's talk, 898 01:07:42,300 --> 01:07:44,990 I approached him and said "Mr. Bennett, 899 01:07:44,990 --> 01:07:48,000 I would like to come to Sherborne next year." 900 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,170 He looked at me and said. 901 01:07:53,820 --> 01:07:55,290 "What's your name?" 902 01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,000 "Robert Fripp," I said, and he replied.... 903 01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,220 was a little deaf, he said "how?", 904 01:08:02,550 --> 01:08:04,640 "Robert Fripp." And he said. 905 01:09:45,480 --> 01:09:46,960 Mr. Bennett said 906 01:09:48,490 --> 01:09:50,530 "I will remember you." 907 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,570 The best concert of the tour. 908 01:10:33,060 --> 01:10:35,450 -Did it go well? -Oops... 909 01:10:35,450 --> 01:10:38,840 -I made some ugly mistakes. -Really? 910 01:10:38,840 --> 01:10:44,430 An out-of-tune note, didn't you hear it? 911 01:10:44,430 --> 01:10:46,870 -I played C instead of C sharp. -Where? 912 01:10:46,870 --> 01:10:51,490 -My finger slipped on my first solo. - "My finger slipped, officer." 913 01:10:52,670 --> 01:10:54,420 -Are you coming with us? -No. 914 01:10:54,420 --> 01:10:56,530 -All right, -You're not coming? 915 01:10:56,530 --> 01:10:59,080 -No. -When will we see you, Toby? 916 01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:02,500 -December 23, Robert. -Fabulous. 917 01:11:02,500 --> 01:11:05,130 -It was good to see you. -I love you. 918 01:11:05,130 --> 01:11:07,810 It's time to have fun in Bredonborough. 919 01:11:07,810 --> 01:11:10,400 Greetings. 920 01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,400 Thank you for seeing me. 921 01:11:48,860 --> 01:11:52,370 Six Months Later SEATTLE, U.S.A. 922 01:11:58,600 --> 01:11:59,850 Hi, Toby! 923 01:11:59,850 --> 01:12:03,010 Hi Bill, do you like that hat? 924 01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,150 -I'm not sure. -OK. 925 01:12:08,370 --> 01:12:12,070 I look like a preacher. 926 01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:17,800 Normally he doesn't like cameras in front of him. 927 01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,490 Look at that. 928 01:12:24,270 --> 01:12:27,440 At this point in time, the situation is risky. 929 01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:32,460 We no longer see it as something that can be cured. 930 01:12:33,300 --> 01:12:39,340 The pain is constant, what varies is the degree. 931 01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,810 What if I hit that bus? 932 01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:58,240 If it sounds about right, and frantic, fuck it! 933 01:12:58,540 --> 01:13:00,290 Let's leave it until we hate it. 934 01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,570 We can go back and change it. 935 01:13:03,040 --> 01:13:06,920 How about my strategy? Leave it until you hate it. 936 01:13:08,330 --> 01:13:11,200 You may come to love it. 937 01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:15,730 Is there a guiding principle in how you make music? 938 01:13:16,210 --> 01:13:19,170 Yes. Be present, pay attention. 939 01:13:19,970 --> 01:13:22,360 These are guiding principles that 940 01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:24,740 govern any area of life. 941 01:13:28,330 --> 01:13:30,130 What does it mean to be present? 942 01:13:31,210 --> 01:13:35,250 It is to exist as much as possible 943 01:13:35,410 --> 01:13:39,400 in the present moment, the here and now. 944 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,990 The only thing that matters is the work. 945 01:13:45,350 --> 01:13:49,330 Everything else matters too but the only thing that stays is the work. 946 01:13:49,700 --> 01:13:51,720 So it better be good. 947 01:13:53,020 --> 01:13:57,040 And if that's what I do with my life? 948 01:13:57,390 --> 01:14:00,210 yes... I don't 949 01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:03,000 only for me, in the void. 950 01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:07,490 I make it to bring her into the world, and I hope 951 01:14:07,490 --> 01:14:11,100 that makes the world a better place and people happy. 952 01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,430 -This is my dilemma. -Here is a dilemma. 953 01:14:25,750 --> 01:14:27,680 How much of this can I use? 954 01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:29,460 I don't know. 955 01:14:29,780 --> 01:14:32,560 Use the good stuff. 956 01:14:34,410 --> 01:14:36,350 If there are parts you like, 957 01:14:36,710 --> 01:14:39,350 use them and then ask me. 958 01:14:40,520 --> 01:14:44,130 -Does that seem fair to you? -It's fine. 959 01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:49,270 The good thing is that if I expire you won't have that problem. 960 01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,420 I would have a duty to do the right thing for you. 961 01:14:53,420 --> 01:14:56,540 It's okay. No one will care will care anymore. 962 01:14:57,580 --> 01:15:01,230 In other words, you will be free to do whatever you want. 963 01:15:03,510 --> 01:15:07,360 As the necrophiliac would say, "he's not going to accuse me". 964 01:15:10,090 --> 01:15:12,030 I have to take a nap. 965 01:15:12,030 --> 01:15:13,650 -All right. -I'm going to bed. 966 01:15:13,650 --> 01:15:16,520 This could be the last thing we record. 967 01:15:16,690 --> 01:15:19,170 I don't know. Not necessarily. 968 01:15:20,910 --> 01:15:22,750 Not necessarily. 969 01:15:22,750 --> 01:15:25,210 I'm going to take another pill 970 01:15:25,210 --> 01:15:27,740 and see if it works. 971 01:15:27,740 --> 01:15:30,870 -If it stuns me, you drive. -All right. 972 01:15:32,210 --> 01:15:35,880 -Do you want to say something succinct and conclusive? -Oh God. 973 01:15:36,590 --> 01:15:39,250 I am very tired. 974 01:16:01,130 --> 01:16:03,710 Bill's 'being Bill' is irreplaceable. 975 01:16:06,460 --> 01:16:09,480 Bill was a reliable reference. 976 01:16:09,830 --> 01:16:15,560 I could ask him, "Bill, does this musical idea work? this musical idea?" And he would say yes or no. 977 01:16:16,170 --> 01:16:19,010 Bill's sense of propriety 978 01:16:19,010 --> 01:16:23,940 was in the same frequency frequency range as mine. 979 01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:32,370 Bill is still a member of this King Crimson, from afar. 980 01:16:41,210 --> 01:16:43,050 I have something for you. 981 01:16:43,050 --> 01:16:46,250 To play at lower volume, I've been using Bill Rieflin's drumsticks 982 01:16:46,250 --> 01:16:50,050 since 2014, for a song, 983 01:16:51,490 --> 01:16:53,430 Starless, every night. 984 01:16:53,430 --> 01:16:57,200 These are the same drumsticks I used 985 01:16:57,200 --> 01:17:01,480 for 4 years. She gave me a lot of them when she started to get sick. 986 01:17:01,480 --> 01:17:04,960 He said "You'll need them more than I will" and gave me a box. 987 01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,020 Today I will try to play the whole concert with them. 988 01:17:09,020 --> 01:17:12,140 Not with this pair, with the other one I bring. 989 01:17:14,530 --> 01:17:16,480 What is the most difficult part? 990 01:17:16,480 --> 01:17:18,610 It is not difficult, it is... 991 01:17:20,090 --> 01:17:22,400 singing Peace at the Albert Hall. 992 01:17:23,650 --> 01:17:26,130 It starts a cappella, 993 01:17:26,130 --> 01:17:29,090 and then I play the guitar. 994 01:17:29,260 --> 01:17:32,660 It scares me because I am totally exposed. 995 01:17:34,930 --> 01:17:38,010 -Do you understand me? -No, no idea. 996 01:17:38,430 --> 01:17:41,800 You told me you felt more nervous 997 01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,480 for playing guitar in front of Robert Fripp 998 01:17:45,010 --> 01:17:47,840 that by touching it 999 01:17:48,290 --> 01:17:50,460 on stage at the Royal Albert Hall. 1000 01:17:52,380 --> 01:17:53,790 -Did I say that? -Yes. 1001 01:17:53,790 --> 01:17:55,810 This must be erased. 1002 01:17:55,810 --> 01:17:58,510 My parents came today. 1003 01:17:58,820 --> 01:18:01,840 -Are you excited? -Yes, of course. 1004 01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:04,450 -Is your brother coming? -Not today, tomorrow. 1005 01:18:04,450 --> 01:18:09,220 I am more quiet and insecure. 1006 01:18:10,480 --> 01:18:11,650 Perhaps. 1007 01:18:12,670 --> 01:18:15,390 You said it yourself. this insecurity come from? 1008 01:18:15,660 --> 01:18:18,460 Because I am adopted 1009 01:18:18,460 --> 01:18:21,530 y... 1010 01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:26,030 I was a sickly child, I didn't go to school school as much as others, 1011 01:18:26,030 --> 01:18:29,070 had asthma, bronchitis, 1012 01:18:29,070 --> 01:18:33,940 was a weak and tiny child. 1013 01:18:34,970 --> 01:18:36,820 I have to go learn a piece. 1014 01:18:36,820 --> 01:18:39,280 If you'll excuse me for a second... 1015 01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:43,210 -I'm going to stick around. -I'm going to stick around. 1016 01:18:43,210 --> 01:18:44,880 Which one do you have to learn? 1017 01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:49,900 Peace. Yes I know it but I need to go over it, we'll play it today. 1018 01:18:50,410 --> 01:18:53,240 And I have never touched it. 1019 01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:55,540 I have never played it with the keyboard. 1020 01:18:55,540 --> 01:18:57,780 One last question. 1021 01:18:57,780 --> 01:19:00,140 -It is not simple. -What is it? 1022 01:19:00,140 --> 01:19:03,430 Is Robert a father figure to some in the band? 1023 01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:07,150 Perhaps for some. 1024 01:19:07,150 --> 01:19:09,570 Ask him. 1025 01:19:09,570 --> 01:19:11,390 Yes, that's fine, thank you. 1026 01:19:16,420 --> 01:19:17,880 This is my son. 1027 01:19:18,170 --> 01:19:19,460 Django. 1028 01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,190 And those who sell you drugs. 1029 01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:27,310 Django. 1030 01:19:27,310 --> 01:19:30,450 -Are you proud of your dad? -Very proud. 1031 01:19:36,470 --> 01:19:39,290 I used two scales as a basis today. 1032 01:19:39,530 --> 01:19:42,230 One in B, the other in C. 1033 01:19:44,380 --> 01:19:45,750 And I wonder... 1034 01:19:46,370 --> 01:19:49,450 I think we're going to put the eye on Jeremy. 1035 01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:00,280 What was that? 1036 01:20:02,350 --> 01:20:05,440 The duckling of the eye, so far, 1037 01:20:06,380 --> 01:20:09,610 has kept an eye on Jakko throughout the tour. 1038 01:20:11,470 --> 01:20:13,770 But now keep an eye on Jeremy. 1039 01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,670 I assume you will make a tour. 1040 01:20:30,180 --> 01:20:32,680 "The umpteenth King Crimson lineup, now with seven members, 1041 01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:35,010 The result is no less than three drummers. 1042 01:20:35,010 --> 01:20:38,460 The performance at the first of his concerts in London in London is more akin to a classical recital. 1043 01:20:38,460 --> 01:20:40,200 than a feast of guitars. 1044 01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:43,000 Two rows of musicians, many vests and ties, 1045 01:20:43,000 --> 01:20:45,030 and no conversation on stage. 1046 01:20:45,030 --> 01:20:49,050 The precise blasts launched from the stage, of course, were not at all kind. 1047 01:20:49,050 --> 01:20:51,550 The musicians walked along the the angular contours 1048 01:20:51,550 --> 01:20:53,730 of Crimson's music, ancient and modern. 1049 01:20:53,730 --> 01:20:57,770 Sometimes the arrangements were faithful, sometimes creative reinventions. 1050 01:20:58,070 --> 01:21:00,500 The trio of drummers intertwined their patterns their patterns, 1051 01:21:00,500 --> 01:21:03,460 or raised a chaotic storm in roaring unison. 1052 01:21:03,460 --> 01:21:06,310 The singer and guitarist Jakko Jakszyk did a credible job 1053 01:21:06,310 --> 01:21:09,500 by singing texts previously interpreted by Greg Lake, 1054 01:21:09,500 --> 01:21:11,980 Gordon Haskell, John Wetton or Adrian Belew. 1055 01:21:11,980 --> 01:21:14,640 As for the band's leader, guitarist Robert Fripp, 1056 01:21:14,640 --> 01:21:18,160 seemed, as always, disconnected. Sitting on the right side of the stage, 1057 01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:21,370 looked like the Dorset real estate salesman his father wanted him to be. his father wanted him to be. 1058 01:21:21,710 --> 01:21:23,810 And it sounded like the apocalypse. 1059 01:21:23,810 --> 01:21:26,490 There were impossible fingerings, jazz, metal, 1060 01:21:26,490 --> 01:21:29,120 an infernal banjo, tremulous beauty. 1061 01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:32,770 The concert ended, how else? with 21st Century Schizoid Man, 1062 01:21:32,770 --> 01:21:36,040 strengthened by a final percussive blast 1063 01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:38,060 and a fiery guitar duet. 1064 01:21:38,060 --> 01:21:41,090 Even the cerebral Fripp allowed himself a smile." 1065 01:21:43,440 --> 01:21:46,240 -Did you like it? -It's better than a kick in the balls, isn't it? 1066 01:22:05,330 --> 01:22:08,520 What does music do to me? 1067 01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:10,870 Change my status. 1068 01:22:11,450 --> 01:22:16,050 What price would I pay to maintain that connection? 1069 01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:19,180 Whatever. 1070 01:22:22,200 --> 01:22:25,420 When I leave this earthly plane, 1071 01:22:25,420 --> 01:22:27,280 am i afraid of death? 1072 01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:31,210 None at all. Why? Because consciousness 1073 01:22:31,330 --> 01:22:35,010 is a continuum. I can move into the next room. 1074 01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,730 Perfect. I'm not worried. 1075 01:22:37,730 --> 01:22:41,010 There is a party waiting for me. 1076 01:23:03,710 --> 01:23:05,970 -What did I miss? -Everything. 1077 01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:08,760 Everything. You missed everything. 1078 01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:13,440 There was a critical, decisive scene 1079 01:23:13,440 --> 01:23:15,780 and decisive in which 1080 01:23:15,780 --> 01:23:20,060 the history, origin and future of King Crimson 1081 01:23:20,060 --> 01:23:23,580 showed up, and you weren't there. 1082 01:23:23,580 --> 01:23:29,400 This DVD, therefore, lacks of effect, utility and interest. 1083 01:23:34,330 --> 01:23:35,380 Thank you. 1084 01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:54,700 Subtitles: Pablo Cordero 1085 01:26:07,910 --> 01:26:11,420 I miss you, Mom.81911

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