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It's very hard to choose
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the most despicable thing
about this guy.
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He's self-important,
he's self-indulgent--
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A bad family man.
A horrible provider.
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Raunchy, rude--
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He's got all these hang-ups
and sexual issues.
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Probably a sexual deviant.
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A complete womanizer.
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A backstabber.
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Just not bright.
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He's a horrible dad.
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He's smelly.
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He would park
in a handicapped space.
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Disgusting.
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A liar.
Rude, crude, lewd.
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He's corrupt.
He's dishonest.
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Um, he's consummately selfish.
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How can one person
be so oblivious,
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insensitive, hateful,
tactless, boorish,
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and ill-tempered
to everyone he meets?
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It's a gift.
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( jazz theme playing )
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I didn't, you know,
set out to have
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any kind of preconceived idea
to create a show like this.
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I was doing some design workfor Gabor Csupo
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at Klasky Csupo,
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and he was asking me,
"Do you have any ideas?"
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Because he had-- He had just
started The Simpsons there.
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Well, you know,I'm working on this comic
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with this duck character,and so I brought it in
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and he liked it, and so weactually kind of started
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playing arounddeveloping the show idea
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before the comicwas totally finished.
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But I had a lotof the comic material
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and a lot of the storieswere, uh, in place.
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I originally based Duckman
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really on a workingrelationship
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between a good friend of mineand his assistant,
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and he was really very much like
a Duckman kind of character,
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and his assistant was very much
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the steady handthat kept everything going,
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and took a lot of abuse.
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That kind of dynamicsort of started me thinking
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about coming upwith two characters like that.
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So I came up with Cornfed Pigactually in the same drawing.
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So that was sort of the--
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The beginning of the thing,
and then, uh,
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I added other characters
as I went along,
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and I had this, kind of,detective dynamic
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going as a business,giving them a lot of ability
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to go a lot of different places.
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If we go undercover
at his art gallery
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we'll find the miracle painting.
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Miracle shmiracle.
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Klasky Csupo had been working
with Everett Peck,
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and they own the rightsto the comic, uh, Duckman.
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And, uh, their lawyer,
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a fellow named Tracy Kramer,
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who used to be, actually,
an agent of ours,
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uh, was the one to approach us
with the material.
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We hooked up with Jeff and Ron
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and we sat down and talked
and, you know,
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they were really great,
and totally,
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you know, got it rightfrom the start.
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They were the show runners
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because they camefrom that background,
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and I basically ranthe art side of things.
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At that time, I mean,
it was still kind of old school.
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From the first draft
of the script
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to the final locked picture
was nine months.
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We'd come up with a script
and then we would record it.
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All the actors
record their parts
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and we'd have to get everything
timed perfectly.
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It would be edited into
what we call a radio play,
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which was essentially a 22
minute block of just audio.
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Then they would
start animating it.
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They animated it to those
voices, that timing--
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Same time I'd be working
with Jerry and the other artists
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to develop any kind of specialposes we would need,
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or special expressionsthat the characters would need.
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New characters--
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Some episodes we had a tonof new characters to design.
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Uh, an also the backgrounds.
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How they would look,and the color and all of that.
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All four seasonswere done on cells.
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It was much more, uh,a kind of complicated
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way of doing things,
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but that's howall four seasons were done.
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And once we got
the board together,
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and the special poses,
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and the timing worked out,that would all go overseas,
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and then in about six weekswe'd get--
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Start getting some finishedfilm back,
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and then we'd startthe editing process.
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First season, we actually
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had to edit it on an oldflatbed with film,
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which was terrible becausewe'd all be huddled
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around this little dark screen,
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and then we'd do the music
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and the sound effects,
and finish it up.
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What the hell was I thinking?
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Partly by design, partly--
Partly through luck,
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we came up with a show
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and a character in Duckman
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that, um,
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you could do almost any kindof joke you wanted,
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and it was-- It was kindof this amazing find,
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and part of that was dueto the fact it was animated.
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EVERETT:
I wanted this guy's life
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to just be as biga piece of crap
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at home as it was at work,
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so he got no relief.And--
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So he had this reallydysfunctional family,
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and he had this reallydysfunctional career,
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and, um,when we started the series
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it was Jeff and Ron's idea
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that insteadof having him married,
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his wife was deceased
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and he livedwith his sister-in-law,
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and that's how--
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That's how that relationship
came about.
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He is a widower, uh,
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who, uh, due to circumstances
of his wife's will,
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is forced to live
with his sister-in-law.
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There's a mild sexual tension,at least on his part,
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but what's on the surface
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is just complete disdain
and hatred.
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They're looking for waysto hurt each other.
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Duckman!
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He's got Ajax,
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who is the burn outof burn outs,
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and he's got Charles and Mambo,who share a body
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with two heads,and then, uh,
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his old mother-in-lawGrandma-ma,
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who communicatesonly through flatulence.
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It's-- It's basically a typicalAmerican household.
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I've decided it's time we did
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what other people
who live in the same house do.
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We're going to start
planning things as a family.
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How about separate vacations?
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( all laughing )
He is a private detective,
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and his partneris a very smart pig.
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That's-- That's Duckman.
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Your aura is a mystic reflection
of your soul, okay?
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The essence of what
is inside you.
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( screaming )
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We really found a thing where we
could write every kind of joke.
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You know, every kind of humor.
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And when you can go from silly,to outrageous, to irreverent,
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to really dark,
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when you can coverall those bases,
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you know, effectively,
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and have a character who can
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kind of embody all of that,
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that kind of stands out.
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RON:
It was that rare situationon a show
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when the writers were hitting
their stride
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and the scripts came in,
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I was a fun of readingthese things too.
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EVERETT:
They put togethera fantastic team of writers.
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I was always totally pleased
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with whateverthey came up with.
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What an experience.
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I think this is something
I'll always carry with me.
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Not unlike a malignant tumor.
Our take was actually to do
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kind of a less intelligentHoward Beale from Network.
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The thing that appealed to us,
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was that he was kindof a social observer,
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but, of course, it was filteredthrough his very,
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kind of,self-centered universe.
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That's what
John Q. Public wants.
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That's what made me famous.
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That's what got you a free ride
on the Duckman gravy train.
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And with exposure like this,
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that train's going
all the way to the top.
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His rants were just unique
to him and sometimes
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he nailed stuff,and sometimes it was, uh,
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just off into the ether.
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This world's depressing enough
without a few insult slurs
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and good honest laughs
at other people's expense.
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A case like this
you take for the principle.
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And any favors, freebies,
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and groupie phone numbers
you can throw my way.
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I will say, on record,
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I've never had more fun
writing a show.
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I knew I had 'em.
The answer's got to be in here.
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Home movies.
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In the pilot,
we did a very conscious thing,
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where Duckman's home moviesthat he was going through
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took you through the variouseras of animation.
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Each era kind of representeda time in his life,
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which was really funny.
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MAN ( on TV ):
The winning numbersare 4, 11, 22, 51, and 88.
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That's me!
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Whoo-hoo!
I won.
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D'oh!
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( screams )
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There's always that fine line
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about making too, uh,
precise a reference
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to a contemporary event
that then,
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after a year or two,
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becomes really, kind of,
dated feeling.
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So we were always kind
of on the fence about that,
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but there are certain things,
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like the Ark of the Covenant,
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or that stuff,that are always good.
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NARRATOR:
Something calledthe Ark of the Covenant.
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One of our favorite parts
of the show,
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was that it wasa social satire.
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We'd parodymental institutions,
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stand up comics,military industrial complex--
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We kind of had a really goodtime going after institutions
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and things, you know--
RON: Sacred vows.
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And celebrity rehab.All that stuff.
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MAN:
This special section
is for celebrities
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actually addicted to checking
into rehab clinics.
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With this class of clientele,
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they runinto scheduling problems.
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JEFF:
He was able to sayso many things
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that maybe need to be said,about lots of the institutions.
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She's a fake!She's taking your money!
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She's a biggerrip off than those
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talk-to-a-nympho-in-prisonhot lines that double charge
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on your bill when they knowyou can't do a thing,
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because you can't tell anyoneyou called in the first place.
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( chuckles )
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So I've heard.
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JASON:
I would never
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have thought to team
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Jeff and Ron with Everett,and yet they were
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able to adapt their vision
and their sensibility
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to exactly what he had laid down
as a ground plan,
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and then take a guy like me,
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who literally was justdropping by, you know,
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I had no overviewof the project.
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And they were ableto guide me through--
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It was just remarkable.
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They were truly the right guys
at the right time.
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I've had a talk with my family.
They know it's wrong
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to capitalize on something
for extra bucks.
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The guys always set
a great balance between
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the parts of Duckman that are,you know, funny ugly,
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and this kind of innate
sweetness to the guy.
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I miss her, you know.
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Tomorrow would have been
our wedding anniversary.
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I forgot.
I guess I blocked it out.
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It's the first one
I'll be spending without her.
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That may explain the way
you've been feeling lately.
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( cries out )
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Every now and then,
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when he stopsranting and raving,
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and has a moment to himself,he realizes
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that he is a--A failed life.
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Duckman,
according to your family,
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you're not an incomparable
crime fighting hero,
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you're not special or unique,
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in fact,
there's absolutely nothing
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memorable about you at all.
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( cries out )
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That little window into his own
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despair and his ownangst and his own
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sense of worthlessness,
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I think--
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As much as anything could.
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--redeemed him through
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all the ranting and ravingand depravity that followed.
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Never knew what to make of him.
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Never knew what people
would think.
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I got to go out
and tell my story
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to those poor, unenlightened
people who aren't yet
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lucky enough to believe.
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The thing we-- We kind
of settled on with Duckman
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was that he was kind
of a fallen idealist.
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Who'd aspire to be someone who's
gotten the stuffing knocked out
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so many times the only reason
he gets up in the morning
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is because either
he's really stupid,
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or somewhere deep down inside
beats the heart
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of a disappointed
yet still hopeful idealist.
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RON:
He's a person, in our minds,who got up every morning
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and pushed the rockup the hill,
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and the rock wouldroll over him,
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and somehow he kept--He kept getting up.
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And it gave us, kind of,
a pathos underneath,
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that Jason, when he came in,
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just nailed.
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She's got a chance
at a new life.
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She shouldn't settle for me.
I wouldn't let her live.
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I'd spend the rest of our lives
holding her back 'cause
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I was afraid of losing her.
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I had been doing a little bit
of animation,
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I was in the middle
of doing Seinfeld,
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I think we were maybe
three seasons in,
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and my agentcalled and said,
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"Something, something,animation, something.
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Duckman, something,something, something."
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I thought it wasfor a guest thing.
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I didn't know it was, like,for the title character.
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And I ran down to Klasky Csupo,
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and I didn't even knowthe name of the show.
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I didn't know anything.
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And they hold upthis character,
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you know, the duck,and they go,
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"He's kind of angryand pissed off."
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We listened to about 70
different people,
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and, uh,
I was kind of burned out,
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and I remember one day,
I was standing in my office,
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and Marv Newland was there,
who's an old friend of mine,
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and an animator
in his own right,
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and he was kind of helping out
on the first episode,
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and I saw him look--
You know, "I can't--
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I can't listen
to these anymore."
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We were playing
a few of them through
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and then we played Jason.
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He goes, "There's your guy.
That's him."
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Amusing.
It's not without a certain
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understated omniscience.
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( superhero theme playing )
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EVERETT:
And so we, Jeff and Ron and I,talked about it
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and said to me,
"Let's go with Jason."
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When the agent called and said,
"Okay, um, you're Duckman,"
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and I went, "So what is it.
How many--? Is it one and out?"
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"No, the show is Duckman.
You're Duckman."
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Ha-ha. I'm Duckman.
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JEFF:
Collaborating with Jason
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was one of the most funexperiences we've had.
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RON:
It's rare thatyou have an actor
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where you knowwhen a joke is funny
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he will not only match it,
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but even, you know,make it funnier.
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We were certainly writing
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to his voice, but he brought
so much to it in the booth.
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That was just, uh,just terrific.
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And he just--He just nailed it.
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EVERETT:
I mean, I can't imagine
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anyone else doing the voice.
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He was great.
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We're working for the biggest
American dick ever.
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( funky theme playing )
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Cornfed fell in place
right away.
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As soon as Gregg Bergerdid that,
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sort of,Joe Friday kind of voice,
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that was it, you know.
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GREGG:
And they handed me this image
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of a fantasticlittle pig. Cornfed.
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And I think scribbled
in pencil was--
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Was, "Just the facts, ma'am."
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And I grew up watchingway too many Dragnets.
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And so loosely based,
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but the same kind of directlook-you-in-the-eye,
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skinny tie, stingy brimmed hat
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approach.
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While most people would go for
the easy Jack Webb comparison,
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I always considered Jack Lord
my spiritual forerunner.
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It's just a great, kind of,
Jack Webb to the--
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You know, the thousandth degree.
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I'm Pig.
Detective Cornfed Pig.
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GREGG:
At least half of season one
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I was recording from Russia,
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where I was shootingfor three months.
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Duckman was in production,Ron and Jeff sent me to Russia
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with this little, tiny digitalaudio tape recorder.
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They would callat the appointed time
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and in my hotel room,
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on a telephone connectedto Klasky Csupo,
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I would lay down tracksand they would listen
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until they were happywith what they heard.
367
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So I was reading everything
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in splits from 9000 miles away
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in animation, not on camera.
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Sometimes you canbe in two places at one time.
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I was.
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( screams )
CROWD: Cornfed, Cornfed...
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Of course it was dangerous,
mayor,
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but that comes
with the territory.
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( cries out )
( moos )
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He did a lot of other voices
on the show too,
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and I know in the--
In the live action on Papa.
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M-O-W, M-O-W, I guess,he plays the drunk.
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Duckman, there's a woman outside
to see you
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and you'll be very proud of me.
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I barely vomited
on this one at all.
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That wrote itself, and, uh--
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( chuckles )
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On the tube everyone's a little
bit bigger than life.
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A little more glamorous.
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And he just--
He was a great time.
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He was a great--
He's a terrific guy.
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And really good.
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Gregg used to screw me up
in the room
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'cause I couldn't
get through it.
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Gregg is really the only one
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that had that part nailedin the first episode.
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00:15:38,434 --> 00:15:42,501
There was no, uh--There was no growth needed.
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He knew exactly whothat character was.
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EVERETT:
I thought some of the bestcomic situations we had
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was when Duckman
would mistreat Cornfed.
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Who are you?
My name's Cornfed.
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Well, I'm Duckman.
Want to be my partner?
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Sure, if I don't die.
400
00:15:56,234 --> 00:15:57,501
Ooh, that smarts.
401
00:15:57,501 --> 00:15:59,067
He's got a lot of skills.
402
00:15:59,067 --> 00:16:02,501
His background in the Irishparliament doesn't hurt.
403
00:16:02,501 --> 00:16:05,634
His history with long-leggymodels doesn't hurt.
404
00:16:05,634 --> 00:16:08,167
He was an Olympic judge,
405
00:16:08,167 --> 00:16:10,234
an air conditioner repairman,
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00:16:10,234 --> 00:16:12,567
uh, a plumber par excellence.
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00:16:12,567 --> 00:16:16,200
But I think above all of them
408
00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,901
is he cares for this duck,
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00:16:18,901 --> 00:16:20,934
and he's willingto do the work of two
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00:16:20,934 --> 00:16:24,501
to make sure that they get outof whatever trouble the duck
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00:16:24,501 --> 00:16:26,367
gets them into every time.
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00:16:26,367 --> 00:16:28,467
I think it's just an issue
of co-dependency.
413
00:16:28,467 --> 00:16:30,133
At the risk of sounding
insubordinate,
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00:16:30,133 --> 00:16:32,067
are you out
of your ****ing mind?
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GREGG:
It's phenomenal to be partof a team
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that is that buddied up
on camera.
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00:16:39,567 --> 00:16:42,868
Nancy and Gregg and I got
to do some stuff together.
418
00:16:42,868 --> 00:16:44,367
( funky theme playing )
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00:16:45,868 --> 00:16:48,801
Bernice and Duckman
were always arguing
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or there was some bizarroromantic undercurrent going on,
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and it always workedfar better
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00:16:54,033 --> 00:16:55,534
when we werein the room together.
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Nancy was actually someone that
Jeff and Ron had worked with,
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and again, fantastic,
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00:17:02,100 --> 00:17:06,100
uh, actor and just--Just nailed--
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00:17:06,100 --> 00:17:07,200
Nailed the character.
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00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,167
Bernice is very opinionated,
428
00:17:09,167 --> 00:17:11,467
uh, very into her body,
429
00:17:11,467 --> 00:17:12,634
obsessed with exercising,
430
00:17:12,634 --> 00:17:14,934
obsessed with telling Duckman
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00:17:14,934 --> 00:17:16,334
what an idiot he is.
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00:17:16,334 --> 00:17:18,033
Quiet, you worthlesssack of stuffing,
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00:17:18,033 --> 00:17:19,601
I'm on the phone.
We looked at--
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Bernice is just kindof the queen shrew
435
00:17:21,567 --> 00:17:23,033
of all time, and boy she
436
00:17:23,033 --> 00:17:24,167
rose to that occasion.
437
00:17:24,167 --> 00:17:26,734
Duckman was unusual,
because they wanted this
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00:17:26,734 --> 00:17:29,033
really crass, hardcore voice.
439
00:17:29,033 --> 00:17:30,133
( giggles )
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00:17:30,133 --> 00:17:33,000
( as Bernice ):
Bernice is this loud
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and obnoxious character.
442
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Move your f... butt
and f... get us
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a f... table
right f... now!
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00:17:39,234 --> 00:17:40,234
Living with this guy
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who all he cares about is sex,
446
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and dealing with him and--
447
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Uh, and I thinkthat kind of thing
448
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you just have to go for it
449
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and play it to the--
To the extreme.
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( laughing )
451
00:17:51,434 --> 00:17:54,901
You are so cute when you're
smarmy and repugnant.
452
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What was exciting about
it was that it was so
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wildly imaginative
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and not p.c. at all.
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Pushing all the buttonsyou could push.
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Going right upto the line of being
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gross and crass,sometimes crossing it,
458
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but always in a very funny,
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intellectual way.
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Last week we converted
the twins' stock dividends
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into singles
and blew the whole thing
462
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at that live nude amazons bar
by the airport.
463
00:18:21,868 --> 00:18:25,033
I knew that ****er
didn't quit smoking.
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00:18:25,033 --> 00:18:27,234
You know how tough it is raising
kids with a role model
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00:18:27,234 --> 00:18:28,567
like that feathered weasel?
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00:18:28,567 --> 00:18:29,801
( funky theme playing )
467
00:18:31,501 --> 00:18:32,501
E.G. Daily--
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You really got the comedy
469
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of that character.She always took the character
470
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to a different place
471
00:18:37,167 --> 00:18:40,334
than I had a pre-conceived idea
472
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of what it would be like,
473
00:18:41,334 --> 00:18:42,934
and it was always great fun.
474
00:18:42,934 --> 00:18:43,934
A sweater.
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00:18:43,934 --> 00:18:45,334
Who should we thank?
476
00:18:45,334 --> 00:18:47,534
You or the midget who
left it at the bus depot?
477
00:18:47,534 --> 00:18:49,834
I just remember thinking,
"Wow, that's really cool"
478
00:18:49,834 --> 00:18:51,868
that they're actually
in a cartoon
479
00:18:51,868 --> 00:18:54,200
where you get to be anyof those cartoons
480
00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,968
that are a little racy,or a little more--
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That are really true to life,which is pretty funny.
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JASON:
She'd come in, she'd dothe little squeaky voice,
483
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and then you go outto a rock club
484
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and see her Janis Joplin
her way through some stuff.
485
00:19:04,667 --> 00:19:06,968
You know. Oh, my God.
They were trying to match up
486
00:19:06,968 --> 00:19:08,968
Charles and Mambo,and that's when they found
487
00:19:08,968 --> 00:19:10,067
Dana and myself.
488
00:19:10,067 --> 00:19:11,567
( as Mambo ):
Mambo's sorta like this.
489
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( normal voice ):
And everything--
Kind of reminds me
490
00:19:13,868 --> 00:19:15,367
of Jason in a way,
but in boy form.
491
00:19:15,367 --> 00:19:18,067
in that he's just sortof dry and cutting,
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brash, and so I just--You know, I think that Mambo
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is not quite as smart,because--
494
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That's what I think,
495
00:19:24,634 --> 00:19:27,234
because brash sometimesdoesn't think first,
496
00:19:27,234 --> 00:19:29,467
so I'd have to say,
even though I hate to say it,
497
00:19:29,467 --> 00:19:32,467
that Charles
is smarter than Mambo.
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00:19:32,467 --> 00:19:34,000
Got any hobbies?
It's speaking
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00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,267
in a binary-based code
only we understand.
500
00:19:36,267 --> 00:19:37,601
How wonderfully adolescent.
501
00:19:37,601 --> 00:19:41,000
100110001001.
502
00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,067
( both laughing )
503
00:19:42,067 --> 00:19:43,567
( funky theme playing )
504
00:19:45,033 --> 00:19:46,934
Right before I started
to do the voice-overs,
505
00:19:46,934 --> 00:19:48,801
I remember having
a conversation with Dana
506
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and I remember talking to heron the phone
507
00:19:50,667 --> 00:19:52,868
and her telling me abouthow the voice-over thing--
508
00:19:52,868 --> 00:19:54,467
'Cause she had the boy thinglike I do,
509
00:19:54,467 --> 00:19:55,767
and I remember that was
510
00:19:55,767 --> 00:19:57,734
a pivotal conversation.
She sort of, in a way,
511
00:19:57,734 --> 00:19:59,667
transformed
that voice-over thing for me,
512
00:19:59,667 --> 00:20:01,167
so I have a lot
of gratitude to her.
513
00:20:01,167 --> 00:20:04,234
EVERETT:
She was justa sweetheart, and, uh,
514
00:20:04,234 --> 00:20:07,434
again,just a terrific attitude,
515
00:20:07,434 --> 00:20:10,000
and very professional
and never missed a--
516
00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:11,734
Never missed a mark.
517
00:20:11,734 --> 00:20:14,334
We'd been aware of medical
issues all along the way.
518
00:20:14,334 --> 00:20:15,701
You know,we really loved her.
519
00:20:15,701 --> 00:20:16,834
She was just so sweet.
520
00:20:16,834 --> 00:20:17,968
RON:
Yeah. Real sweetheart.
521
00:20:17,968 --> 00:20:20,067
JEFF:
Terrific and it was just sad.
522
00:20:20,067 --> 00:20:22,501
RON:
Or let it weight her downor anything, you know, and, uh,
523
00:20:22,501 --> 00:20:25,767
yeah, she was--She was also,
524
00:20:25,767 --> 00:20:27,534
and, of course,just an excellent actress.
525
00:20:27,534 --> 00:20:29,968
She actually camein and recorded one day
526
00:20:29,968 --> 00:20:32,033
and her energy was just--
527
00:20:32,033 --> 00:20:33,734
Just very, very low.
528
00:20:33,734 --> 00:20:36,667
And, um, she--
529
00:20:36,667 --> 00:20:38,300