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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:09,873 --> 00:00:17,273 03 The Defiant Ones - Part 3 English 2 00:00:21,897 --> 00:00:25,390 [BONO] There's something in him that's attracted to rage. 3 00:00:26,151 --> 00:00:29,644 That's the thing, I think, to explore. 4 00:00:30,822 --> 00:00:32,438 [MAN] Oh, the bear, Jimmy. 5 00:00:34,785 --> 00:00:37,903 [CHUCKLING] What is it about the bear, by the way? 6 00:00:37,996 --> 00:00:42,456 I like bears more than I like, probably... 7 00:00:42,543 --> 00:00:45,706 It's my favorite animal, because, 8 00:00:45,796 --> 00:00:47,753 not only can it get you on land, 9 00:00:47,839 --> 00:00:50,297 if you go in the water, it will come for you there, 10 00:00:50,384 --> 00:00:53,627 and it is faster than you on land and in water. 11 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:55,757 And it's big as all hell. 12 00:00:56,431 --> 00:00:58,923 That is the ultimate machine as far as I'm concerned. 13 00:01:01,061 --> 00:01:02,847 God got that one really right. 14 00:01:05,274 --> 00:01:07,252 [SNOOP DOGG] [IMITATING ITALIAN ACCENT] Jimmy Lovine. 15 00:01:07,276 --> 00:01:09,517 That's how you say his name in Italy. 16 00:01:09,653 --> 00:01:10,814 Jimmy is Italioni. 17 00:01:10,904 --> 00:01:14,147 That's why they can't really fuck with him like they really want to. 18 00:01:14,241 --> 00:01:16,949 You know what I'm sayin'? Overplay the fettuccine. 19 00:01:17,869 --> 00:01:20,031 [JIMMY] My mother was very intense. 20 00:01:20,122 --> 00:01:22,392 [JANET] She felt that everyone was taking advantage of him. 21 00:01:22,416 --> 00:01:25,374 She was always looking at the angle that someone might have. 22 00:01:25,836 --> 00:01:27,497 And Jimmy picked up that. 23 00:01:27,588 --> 00:01:30,000 [JIMMY] She loved me, but she worried a lot. 24 00:01:30,215 --> 00:01:33,628 And that just made me twitch, literally. 25 00:01:33,719 --> 00:01:34,719 [LAUGHS] 26 00:01:36,638 --> 00:01:40,848 In my neighborhood, either you could punch good, duck good, 27 00:01:40,934 --> 00:01:42,891 or have a great sense of humor. 28 00:01:43,020 --> 00:01:44,385 And I was the latter. 29 00:01:44,479 --> 00:01:48,313 I was nowhere near a tough guy, but there were sure a lot of tough guys around. 30 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:53,361 Everyone in the neighborhood, they wanted to earn a few extra bucks. 31 00:01:53,488 --> 00:01:58,858 As a longshoreman, my dad used to tell me there were extra things lying around the pier. 32 00:01:58,952 --> 00:02:01,535 He'd bring home 12 catcher's mitts. 33 00:02:01,622 --> 00:02:03,454 And I said, What am I gonna do with 12... 34 00:02:03,957 --> 00:02:05,368 My uncle would bring things home, 35 00:02:05,459 --> 00:02:07,325 my next-door neighbor would bring things home 36 00:02:07,419 --> 00:02:08,784 and they would trade them. 37 00:02:08,879 --> 00:02:10,916 And that was the culture. 38 00:02:11,256 --> 00:02:15,716 [STEVE STOUTE] So, you're dealing with Italian, short-man complex from Brooklyn. 39 00:02:15,802 --> 00:02:17,964 You're dealing with a lot of energy. 40 00:02:18,722 --> 00:02:20,429 And he took that into the record business. 41 00:02:20,515 --> 00:02:23,598 Jimmy's one of those guys that if you think you killed him, 42 00:02:23,685 --> 00:02:27,679 you better go back and shoot him again because he'll get up. [LAUGHS] 43 00:02:29,274 --> 00:02:30,810 It's opera. 44 00:02:31,234 --> 00:02:33,601 Italians love the opera. 45 00:02:33,695 --> 00:02:35,811 Big emotions, violence. 46 00:02:36,114 --> 00:02:37,946 That energy, that rage... 47 00:02:39,242 --> 00:02:41,859 He has it. He just doesn't come off as angry. 48 00:02:42,412 --> 00:02:46,622 But under the skin of it, he likes blood and bones. 49 00:02:58,595 --> 00:03:00,677 [HIP-HOP MUSIC PLAYING] 50 00:03:01,765 --> 00:03:03,426 [YELLING] 51 00:03:06,395 --> 00:03:08,477 Man, they looking for that rock. 52 00:03:22,119 --> 00:03:24,263 Nigga used to wanna shoot at me, now he wanna rap with me. 53 00:03:24,287 --> 00:03:28,155 [DR. DRE] The first time I heard Snoop, a friend of mine had a bachelor party. 54 00:03:32,462 --> 00:03:35,295 I'd met Snoop before that, he was sellin' drugs. 55 00:03:35,382 --> 00:03:38,215 And my stepbrother Warren G, pops this tape in. 56 00:03:38,427 --> 00:03:40,589 ♪ Rollin' in my 6-4 ♪ 57 00:03:40,887 --> 00:03:41,968 I'm like, That's Snoop? 58 00:03:42,472 --> 00:03:46,215 I'm like, Man, this is a fucking diamond in the rough and we need to polish it up. 59 00:03:46,309 --> 00:03:49,222 So, it went from that to me receivin' a phone call. 60 00:03:49,312 --> 00:03:50,393 But I hung up. 61 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,480 Like, Nigga, this ain't no motherfucking Dr. Dre. 62 00:03:52,941 --> 00:03:56,150 Nigga called back like, Nigga, be at the studio Monday. 63 00:03:56,278 --> 00:03:57,894 [DR. DRE] So, Snoop comes in the studio, 64 00:03:57,988 --> 00:04:00,855 I put this track up for him and he just freestylin'. 65 00:04:00,949 --> 00:04:02,986 And this shit was super sick. 66 00:04:03,285 --> 00:04:08,075 And then the thought of my solo album started becomin' a reality in my mind. 67 00:04:08,415 --> 00:04:11,908 Had Snoop, Warren G and D. O. C. help outwith the lyrics. 68 00:04:12,002 --> 00:04:13,208 That's a great beginning. 69 00:04:13,295 --> 00:04:15,286 ♪ Creepin' down the back street on D's ♪ 70 00:04:15,380 --> 00:04:18,088 ♪ I got my Glock cocked ♪ ♪ cause niggas want these ♪ 71 00:04:18,216 --> 00:04:20,548 ♪ Now soon as I said it, ♪ ♪ seems I got sweated ♪ 72 00:04:20,635 --> 00:04:23,343 ♪ By some nigga with a TE ♪ ♪ C-9 Tryin' to take mine ♪ 73 00:04:23,430 --> 00:04:25,421 ♪ You want to make noise, make noise ♪ 74 00:04:25,515 --> 00:04:28,553 ♪ I make a phone call My niggas ♪ ♪ comin' like the Gotti boys ♪ 75 00:04:28,643 --> 00:04:31,010 [DR. DRE] I had just got a new house in Calabasas, 76 00:04:31,104 --> 00:04:36,270 completely empty with the exception of my bedroom and downstairs studio. 77 00:04:36,359 --> 00:04:39,021 So we downstairs makin' songs with no furniture. 78 00:04:39,112 --> 00:04:41,319 Some nights it would be me, him. 79 00:04:41,406 --> 00:04:44,899 And then some nights, there would be about 1,000 motherfuckers in there. 80 00:04:45,786 --> 00:04:47,948 A lot of people have come out... Hold up, baby. 81 00:04:48,038 --> 00:04:51,326 [DR. DRE] Kurupt stayed there, Snoop lived there, Daz, Nate Dogg. 82 00:04:51,708 --> 00:04:54,826 It's just full of really creative people. 83 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,126 We would party for a while. 84 00:04:56,213 --> 00:04:57,419 I'd hear somebody go, 85 00:04:57,506 --> 00:05:00,214 With my mind on my money and my money on my mind. 86 00:05:00,342 --> 00:05:03,585 Barn. Yo, hold that. Let's go in the studio. Let's lay that. 87 00:05:05,388 --> 00:05:07,308 [SNOOP DOGG] We created some great fuckin' music. 88 00:05:07,849 --> 00:05:08,849 [MOUTHING] 89 00:05:09,142 --> 00:05:11,133 But it was domestically dysfunctional. 90 00:05:11,228 --> 00:05:12,343 You know what I'm sayin'? 91 00:05:12,437 --> 00:05:14,098 [DR. DRE] People fuckin'in the bathrooms. 92 00:05:14,231 --> 00:05:15,892 People fuckin' anywhere except my room. 93 00:05:18,568 --> 00:05:21,380 [SNOOP DOGG] But we wasjust happy to be outta the hood, workin' with Dr. Dre. 94 00:05:21,404 --> 00:05:22,644 I was on house arrest. 95 00:05:22,739 --> 00:05:25,176 [SNOOP DOGG] This was one of the baddest motherfuckers to ever do it. 96 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,360 I mean, his ear is different. 97 00:05:26,409 --> 00:05:28,320 You can't really say, Why did he pick me 98 00:05:28,411 --> 00:05:31,324 outta all of the rappers that was rappin' in the '80s and say, 99 00:05:31,414 --> 00:05:32,767 'Well, I 'mma put you down with me '? 100 00:05:32,791 --> 00:05:35,078 I don't know why, but he always put me up. 101 00:05:35,168 --> 00:05:37,284 Hey, Snoop Doggy-Dogg, welcome to Yo! MTV Raps. 102 00:05:37,379 --> 00:05:38,379 Wassup, Fab. 103 00:05:38,421 --> 00:05:40,024 [FAB 5 FREDDY] Snoop really was a street guy, 104 00:05:40,048 --> 00:05:42,585 but he was the personality I had not seen in rap. 105 00:05:42,801 --> 00:05:44,667 It was a whole other flow. 106 00:05:45,220 --> 00:05:47,211 [SNOOP DOGG] My thing back then was freestyle. 107 00:05:47,305 --> 00:05:48,574 Like, I didn't know how to write. 108 00:05:48,598 --> 00:05:50,180 But D.O.C. was my teacher. 109 00:05:50,267 --> 00:05:54,932 He was the one who showed me, Do this like this and that and this and... 110 00:05:55,397 --> 00:05:57,237 He gave me that line, you know what I'm sayin'? 111 00:05:58,316 --> 00:05:59,772 And then, there was some white boys, 112 00:05:59,860 --> 00:06:01,225 and they had a truck, 113 00:06:01,319 --> 00:06:03,981 and motherfucker had some sort of device, mechanism. 114 00:06:04,072 --> 00:06:07,565 And he was like, Dude, this is the hydroponic. 115 00:06:08,702 --> 00:06:09,988 It's hydroponic, man. 116 00:06:10,787 --> 00:06:14,075 Like, we was just smokin', niggas was gettin' fucked up. 117 00:06:14,749 --> 00:06:16,865 I'm becoming a hippie. I'm becoming a stoner. 118 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,328 By the end of the night, niggas was like, Nigga, that hydroponic, nigga. 119 00:06:21,590 --> 00:06:23,297 Nigga, that hydro-chronic is the shit. 120 00:06:24,217 --> 00:06:26,800 We fucked around and fucked the whole name up. 121 00:06:26,928 --> 00:06:29,169 Yeah, he like, Nigga, this shit is bomb, nigga. 122 00:06:29,264 --> 00:06:31,426 Your album should be called The Chronic, nigga. 123 00:06:31,516 --> 00:06:34,133 And I was wearin' that white hat with the green leaf on it. 124 00:06:35,604 --> 00:06:37,811 It was like everything was comin' together like magic. 125 00:06:45,280 --> 00:06:47,988 [BOY] I love you, Mommy. [VICKI] I love you, too. 126 00:06:49,326 --> 00:06:52,318 [JIMMY] In 1989, I wanted to stop producing records. 127 00:06:52,412 --> 00:06:55,905 I didn't wanna be out all night producing records and not seeing my kids. 128 00:06:56,583 --> 00:06:58,244 So, I went to a couple of friends. 129 00:06:58,335 --> 00:07:01,327 I went to David Geffen, seek their advice, you know. 130 00:07:01,421 --> 00:07:02,815 [ALLEN GRUBMAN] Geffen, Geffen, Geffen. 131 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,830 Let me get you to understand this properly. 132 00:07:04,925 --> 00:07:07,758 You don't have to say Madonna's last name. 133 00:07:07,844 --> 00:07:10,302 You don't have to say Cher's last name. 134 00:07:10,388 --> 00:07:12,720 You don't have to say Bono's last name. 135 00:07:12,807 --> 00:07:15,799 You don't have to say David's last name, got it? 136 00:07:17,020 --> 00:07:21,230 Jimmy used to sit on his knee and learn from David. 137 00:07:21,316 --> 00:07:25,025 My first impressions of Jimmy were that he was a sponge. 138 00:07:25,779 --> 00:07:28,612 That he picked up everything he heard or saw. 139 00:07:28,698 --> 00:07:31,315 [JIMMY] David had a record company and it was really successful, 140 00:07:31,409 --> 00:07:33,366 and I always admired David. 141 00:07:33,495 --> 00:07:37,204 So, I said, Man, maybe, I could start a record company. 142 00:07:37,290 --> 00:07:38,906 He wanted to make a lot of money. 143 00:07:40,293 --> 00:07:43,627 And record producers don't make that much money. 144 00:07:44,381 --> 00:07:46,213 People talk about those things. 145 00:07:46,883 --> 00:07:50,717 [JIMMY] David taught me the an' of business in music. 146 00:07:52,055 --> 00:07:55,798 And I was going in not knowing anything about business. 147 00:07:55,892 --> 00:07:58,930 And because David sold Geffen Records, 148 00:07:59,020 --> 00:08:01,603 everybody wanted to get in the label business. 149 00:08:01,690 --> 00:08:04,182 And it was incredible competition. 150 00:08:04,818 --> 00:08:08,903 So, then, there was a guy named Ted Field who was starting a record company. 151 00:08:08,989 --> 00:08:10,696 And we really hit it off. 152 00:08:10,782 --> 00:08:14,696 DAVID: Ted Field was the renegade of the very wealthy Marshall Field's family. 153 00:08:14,786 --> 00:08:17,448 He didn't want to take over any of the family businesses, 154 00:08:17,539 --> 00:08:19,906 and he had a passion for entertainment. 155 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,241 [JIMMY] So, we decided to do this together. 156 00:08:22,335 --> 00:08:25,043 And I brought along Doug Morris from Atlantic. 157 00:08:25,130 --> 00:08:26,871 I said, Jimmy, you wanna start the label? 158 00:08:26,965 --> 00:08:31,004 You know, I'm in for half if you want it. I was always in for half. 159 00:08:31,094 --> 00:08:33,005 [JIMMY] And that's how Interscope came about. 160 00:08:33,096 --> 00:08:35,337 And naturally, because Atlantic's our partner, 161 00:08:35,432 --> 00:08:38,595 they brought along Time Warner, 'cause Time Warner owns Atlantic. 162 00:08:38,768 --> 00:08:42,352 You get a guy you know is gonna get hits, you make him the boss. 163 00:08:42,439 --> 00:08:44,100 He's gonna bring in the music. 164 00:08:44,232 --> 00:08:48,442 And the other people who do the other stuff, they do the other stuff. 165 00:08:48,903 --> 00:08:51,757 [JIMMY] Everyone thinks that I'm gonna come in and do rock and roll, and they... 166 00:08:51,781 --> 00:08:55,365 'Cause I came from U2 and Tom Petty and Springsteen and all this stuff. 167 00:08:55,452 --> 00:08:56,942 But I came in and wanted a hit. 168 00:08:57,037 --> 00:08:58,948 So, I came back from lunch one day with Ted, 169 00:08:59,039 --> 00:09:02,122 and all of the secretaries are lookin' at this video. 170 00:09:02,208 --> 00:09:03,664 And it was in Spanish. 171 00:09:03,793 --> 00:09:06,831 They said, Oh, we love this guy. He's so beautiful. 172 00:09:06,921 --> 00:09:09,128 And they're all singing this Rico Suave. 173 00:09:09,382 --> 00:09:11,123 [MUSIC PLAYING] 174 00:09:18,433 --> 00:09:19,953 Man, fuck it, we're gonna sign this. 175 00:09:20,018 --> 00:09:21,884 What? This is gonna be our first signing? 176 00:09:22,812 --> 00:09:25,895 Is this what we're going to be known for as a record company? 177 00:09:25,982 --> 00:09:27,585 He goes, I don't care, we're just signing it. 178 00:09:27,609 --> 00:09:29,566 [RAPPING IN SPANISH] 179 00:09:31,738 --> 00:09:34,571 [TOM WHALLEY] I said, Well, if we're gonna sign this, 180 00:09:34,657 --> 00:09:37,945 I'm gonna go find something that is so out there 181 00:09:38,036 --> 00:09:40,619 that people won't know what the heck we're doin'. 182 00:09:40,705 --> 00:09:44,824 So, I hit the road and I end up finding a group called Primus. 183 00:09:45,460 --> 00:09:48,327 ♪ Hello, Mr. Krinkle How are you today? ♪ 184 00:09:48,838 --> 00:09:52,126 ♪ Seems the rumors are about ♪ ♪ your team might move away ♪ 185 00:09:52,300 --> 00:09:55,884 [TOM WHALLEY] The odd part was, Primus liked odd things in the world. 186 00:09:55,970 --> 00:09:57,615 And one of the reasons they signed with us 187 00:09:57,639 --> 00:10:00,006 is because they thought it was the coolest thing 188 00:10:00,100 --> 00:10:03,218 that we had a company that had Rico Suave. 189 00:10:04,562 --> 00:10:07,099 Go figure. I didn't know Gerardo would be a hit, but it was. 190 00:10:07,190 --> 00:10:08,726 Huge hit. Put us on the map. 191 00:10:09,776 --> 00:10:14,111 So, next thing you know, it felt like everyone wanted to be with Interscope. 192 00:10:14,197 --> 00:10:15,904 [JIMMY] It was a complete free-for-all. 193 00:10:15,990 --> 00:10:18,823 Primus, Helmet, 4 Non Blondes, 194 00:10:18,910 --> 00:10:20,776 Tupac was signed by Tom Whalley. 195 00:10:20,870 --> 00:10:23,612 And then Mark Wahlberg, who was known as Marky Mark, 196 00:10:23,706 --> 00:10:24,912 with his brother, Donnie. 197 00:10:25,333 --> 00:10:26,664 And No Doubt. 198 00:10:27,877 --> 00:10:29,271 - [FEMALE REPORTER] What's your name? - I'm Gwen. 199 00:10:29,295 --> 00:10:32,037 [FEMALE REPORTER] Gwen is now going to glue her costume. 200 00:10:33,758 --> 00:10:35,294 Follow me. 201 00:10:35,385 --> 00:10:36,796 Okay, here we go. 202 00:10:37,887 --> 00:10:41,130 [MALE REPORTER] ls it true that you wanna be a big star and tour the world? 203 00:10:41,224 --> 00:10:43,932 Yes, I wanna be a star. Yeah. 204 00:10:44,060 --> 00:10:45,060 [CHUCKLES] 205 00:10:50,024 --> 00:10:52,391 [GWEN STEFANI] The first time I met Jimmy was at a showcase. 206 00:10:52,485 --> 00:10:55,819 Probably '91. I had no idea what Interscope records was. 207 00:10:55,905 --> 00:10:57,816 I didn't know who Jimmy Lovine was. 208 00:10:57,907 --> 00:10:59,989 ♪ I chose a road when I was young ♪ 209 00:11:00,076 --> 00:11:02,488 ♪ In search of fun, temptation won ♪ 210 00:11:02,579 --> 00:11:04,820 ♪ And all my soul I did surrender... ♪ 211 00:11:04,914 --> 00:11:08,032 [GWEN] It was just them there and us playing and there was no audience. 212 00:11:08,126 --> 00:11:11,585 And we knew that these were, like, guys that can help us make a record. 213 00:11:11,671 --> 00:11:16,256 But I was super naive. I didn't know anything about getting signed. 214 00:11:17,302 --> 00:11:20,636 I just sang and wrote songs and made clothes. 215 00:11:20,722 --> 00:11:25,683 ♪ Sometimes I hide somewhat ♪ ♪ Like a bulb behind a shade ♪ 216 00:11:25,768 --> 00:11:29,807 But I remember Jimmy came up to me and kinda pulled me aside. 217 00:11:29,898 --> 00:11:32,856 And he said to me, You're gonna be a star in six years. 218 00:11:32,942 --> 00:11:35,229 And I was like, 219 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,359 Okay, first of all, I'm gonna have, like, ten kids by the time six years comes around. 220 00:11:39,449 --> 00:11:41,315 And I won't be doing this still. 221 00:11:41,409 --> 00:11:43,525 And, um, who are you? 222 00:11:43,620 --> 00:11:48,205 And why six years? That's a weird number, you know, but he was right. 223 00:11:48,291 --> 00:11:51,033 I hadn't gone through what I needed to go through 224 00:11:51,127 --> 00:11:54,665 to write the record that was gonna actually make a difference and touch people, 225 00:11:54,756 --> 00:11:58,670 you know, and so, he bought us an eight-track recorder. 226 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,218 We built a studio in our garage. 227 00:12:01,304 --> 00:12:03,449 And we went in there and we learned how to write music. 228 00:12:03,473 --> 00:12:06,716 But we'd write, like, a few songs and be like, Okay, let's go play it for Jimmy. 229 00:12:06,809 --> 00:12:09,972 And it would always be, like, a bit of a, like... [SIGHS] 230 00:12:10,063 --> 00:12:12,771 Write another song, write another song, write another song. 231 00:12:13,775 --> 00:12:15,252 And it was a frustrating relationship, 232 00:12:15,276 --> 00:12:17,563 because when you're an artist, you think you're done. 233 00:12:17,654 --> 00:12:19,520 And in his mind, you're never done. 234 00:12:19,822 --> 00:12:21,779 We had very few releases in '91. 235 00:12:21,866 --> 00:12:25,905 And Jimmy was a renowned producer, very creative. 236 00:12:25,995 --> 00:12:28,111 But he wasn't renowned as a businessman. 237 00:12:28,206 --> 00:12:30,434 [JIMMY] So, you know, I didn't feel comfortable around executives, 238 00:12:30,458 --> 00:12:33,701 I felt comfortable around artists and record producers. 239 00:12:33,795 --> 00:12:36,833 Because they know how to get the best out of artists. 240 00:12:36,923 --> 00:12:38,129 And then I found my niche. 241 00:12:38,216 --> 00:12:43,837 I said, Okay, I gotta find great producers, and I produce them. 242 00:12:45,515 --> 00:12:48,974 ♪ Why are you doing this to me? ♪ 243 00:12:50,853 --> 00:12:55,518 ♪ Am I not living up To ♪ ♪ what I'm supposed to be? ♪ 244 00:12:56,317 --> 00:13:00,652 [COHEN] Our first real adventure was getting Nine Inch Nails. 245 00:13:01,739 --> 00:13:06,279 ♪ I think you owe me a great big apology ♪ 246 00:13:06,369 --> 00:13:07,369 ♪ Terrible lie... ♪ 247 00:13:07,495 --> 00:13:11,363 1991 was when Jimmy first got a sniff of Nine Inch Nails. 248 00:13:12,166 --> 00:13:13,782 Holy shit, this guy's incredible. 249 00:13:13,876 --> 00:13:17,085 Every day, conversations about We gotta get Nine Inch Nails. 250 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,714 But it wasn't just a band on the free market that everybody was trying to sign. 251 00:13:21,801 --> 00:13:25,590 They were signed to a label and they fuckin' hated that label. 252 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:28,388 IVI was just a collection of shit. 253 00:13:28,474 --> 00:13:30,340 [STEVE BERMAN] And the guy who ran that label 254 00:13:30,435 --> 00:13:32,802 wasn't gonna make anybody's lives easy. 255 00:13:32,895 --> 00:13:37,480 Trent and I began to have a little bit of... [STAMMERING] Difficulty. 256 00:13:37,567 --> 00:13:39,287 [COHEN] He had 'em signed for seven albums. 257 00:13:39,819 --> 00:13:42,652 And everybody in the business knew they wanted off the label. 258 00:13:42,739 --> 00:13:45,151 This is what, personally, I'm looking for. 259 00:13:45,241 --> 00:13:49,906 That next guy that can write these lyrics and have this attitude. 260 00:13:49,996 --> 00:13:53,159 And he had the stage presence, he produced those records himself. 261 00:13:53,249 --> 00:13:54,865 He had every ounce of it. 262 00:13:56,669 --> 00:13:58,626 ♪ Terrible lie ♪ 263 00:14:09,932 --> 00:14:11,468 [TRENT] You know, the thing, I mean, 264 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,454 the thing that was so frustrating to me at that time 265 00:14:13,478 --> 00:14:16,721 was, my whole life, I knew I wanted to be on stage doing this. 266 00:14:17,523 --> 00:14:22,518 And I remember it was the slow build where each little moment you could savor, 267 00:14:22,612 --> 00:14:25,354 like, hearing my song on college radio first time. 268 00:14:25,448 --> 00:14:26,654 Holy shit. 269 00:14:26,741 --> 00:14:29,028 You know, that was, like, the greatest thing in the world. 270 00:14:29,118 --> 00:14:32,236 I'd finally, through a combination of hard work and luck, 271 00:14:32,330 --> 00:14:35,698 cracked the door open and signed to TVT. 272 00:14:35,792 --> 00:14:39,330 And I recorded a collection of songs that we felt proud of. 273 00:14:39,420 --> 00:14:43,630 Turned it in to Gottlieb and he said, Well, this record's an abortion. 274 00:14:45,468 --> 00:14:47,905 And that's a blow coming when you've never made a record before. 275 00:14:47,929 --> 00:14:50,387 He's put records out, maybe he knows more than I do. 276 00:14:50,473 --> 00:14:53,716 And he said, You fucked up what could have been a good career. 277 00:14:53,810 --> 00:14:56,677 But that was the album, and we put it out and we just toured. 278 00:14:57,146 --> 00:15:02,266 And as each small tier of success started happening, the record started to sell. 279 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,024 And I thought that would result in Gottlieb saying, 280 00:15:06,114 --> 00:15:07,674 III Hey, you did know what you were doing - 281 00:15:07,698 --> 00:15:11,407 But instead, it was, If you sold a million copies of this album, 282 00:15:11,494 --> 00:15:13,305 well, we need to sell four million on the next one. 283 00:15:13,329 --> 00:15:15,195 Um, I didn't see it that way. 284 00:15:15,289 --> 00:15:17,101 And I knew he wasn't going to get outta the way. 285 00:15:17,125 --> 00:15:19,708 Trent would not be the first artist who thought, 286 00:15:19,794 --> 00:15:22,411 Gee, now, I'm having a taste of success. 287 00:15:22,505 --> 00:15:27,124 Wouldn't it be nice to be off an independent label and on a big label. 288 00:15:27,218 --> 00:15:31,007 [WHALLEY] Pretty much every major label were all willing to fund a lawsuit 289 00:15:31,097 --> 00:15:32,758 to help them get out of their contracts 290 00:15:32,849 --> 00:15:34,729 'cause they think Nine Inch Nails is that great. 291 00:15:34,767 --> 00:15:38,431 This is the first time I saw Jimmy thinkin', like, kinda three-dimensional. 292 00:15:38,521 --> 00:15:41,309 He said, We won't win if we go down the lawsuit route. 293 00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:43,836 Everyone else is gonna do that, so, we gotta do something different. 294 00:15:43,860 --> 00:15:46,022 [JIMMY] The only way to really facilitate this 295 00:15:46,112 --> 00:15:49,605 is somebody goes and convinces the label to take on a partner. 296 00:15:49,699 --> 00:15:51,940 I said, Well, how are we gonna do that? 297 00:15:52,034 --> 00:15:55,948 [BONO] The phone. That is his theater of war. 298 00:15:56,038 --> 00:15:57,995 That's where he is deadly. 299 00:15:58,082 --> 00:16:02,417 [STEVE] He started to speak to Steve Gottlieb every day for one year straight. 300 00:16:02,795 --> 00:16:05,503 He lived in the bathroom for a year, on the phone. 301 00:16:05,590 --> 00:16:09,003 Every morning at 6:00, I'd call everybody involved. 302 00:16:09,093 --> 00:16:12,336 And he'd sit on this director's chair, feet up like this. 303 00:16:12,430 --> 00:16:15,138 At the same time, signin' Nine Inch Nails, 304 00:16:15,224 --> 00:16:17,636 at the same time, workin' TVT, 305 00:16:17,727 --> 00:16:21,937 treating both of 'em in a way that he could see the resolution. 306 00:16:22,023 --> 00:16:23,309 They couldn't see it. 307 00:16:23,399 --> 00:16:26,482 [JIMMY] The lawyer, Steve, Trent's manager. 308 00:16:26,569 --> 00:16:29,778 And he used anger, charm, guile, deviousness. 309 00:16:29,864 --> 00:16:31,946 [VICKI] He had a red, hot focus. 310 00:16:32,033 --> 00:16:33,033 It was nuclear. 311 00:16:33,117 --> 00:16:36,030 I'm just gonna sit here, I can outlast anybody. 312 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,078 [VICKI] He did not come out of that bathroom for one year. 313 00:16:39,207 --> 00:16:42,450 The kids, I just kept saying, You know, Daddy's living in the bathroom. 314 00:16:42,543 --> 00:16:43,999 It was painful. 315 00:16:44,086 --> 00:16:45,292 Jimmy wouldn't give up. 316 00:16:45,379 --> 00:16:48,838 [WHALLEY] And when Steve realized that he was not going to win this battle, 317 00:16:48,925 --> 00:16:51,587 he agreed to sign over the contract to lnterscope. 318 00:16:51,677 --> 00:16:54,339 Anybody knows Steve Gottlieb, 319 00:16:54,430 --> 00:16:58,719 just getting him to that point was something that only Jimmy could do. 320 00:17:06,817 --> 00:17:08,057 Empathy- 321 00:17:12,448 --> 00:17:19,320 Um, I think his ability to take the other person's point of view 322 00:17:20,206 --> 00:17:25,372 and to understand it and appreciate it and put himself in those shoes, 323 00:17:25,878 --> 00:17:32,250 that also informs why he's so good as a marketer... 324 00:17:33,970 --> 00:17:35,131 Um, 325 00:17:36,013 --> 00:17:38,801 you know, in terms of his being able to understand people 326 00:17:38,891 --> 00:17:43,556 and really think about, you know, their primal motivations, 327 00:17:43,646 --> 00:17:48,732 their desires, and really try and have this kinda, 328 00:17:48,818 --> 00:17:52,652 Vulcan mind meld of what is gonna move them. 329 00:18:00,288 --> 00:18:03,497 [JIMMY] So, after all that, I still hadn't met Trent in person. 330 00:18:03,583 --> 00:18:07,872 By that time, he was completely allergic to record company executives. 331 00:18:08,004 --> 00:18:10,996 [TRENT] I was in a hotel room and I'd purposely turned the lights down. 332 00:18:11,090 --> 00:18:13,548 And I just thought, I'm gonna have to portray myself 333 00:18:13,634 --> 00:18:15,921 as not someone that you wanna deal with. 334 00:18:16,012 --> 00:18:18,407 [JIMMY] I went to this room, it was dark and there's candles. 335 00:18:18,431 --> 00:18:20,422 I mean, it was like a meeting with Dracula. 336 00:18:20,516 --> 00:18:22,035 [TRENT] You know, he kinda said, What do you want? 337 00:18:22,059 --> 00:18:25,723 And I said, Well, I'd like you to give me an advance for an album, 338 00:18:26,355 --> 00:18:27,891 and then just leave me alone. 339 00:18:27,982 --> 00:18:31,771 And I'll give you the album and I'll give you singles and I'll give you the artwork. 340 00:18:31,861 --> 00:18:34,273 But I don't want someone sittin' in the studio. 341 00:18:34,363 --> 00:18:38,152 I have an idea, please don't ruin it as it's trying to come out of me. 342 00:18:38,242 --> 00:18:40,825 Okay, what else do you want? 343 00:18:42,455 --> 00:18:45,948 Um, well, I'd like to have a record label 344 00:18:46,042 --> 00:18:49,535 where I could sign other bands if I felt like that. 345 00:18:50,129 --> 00:18:52,416 Okay, what else do you want? 346 00:18:52,506 --> 00:18:54,359 And I couldn't think of anything else, you know? 347 00:18:54,383 --> 00:18:56,862 So, I said, By the way, here's Broken, you could put that out. 348 00:18:56,886 --> 00:19:00,004 [COHEN] They actually gave us Broken as a free additional record. 349 00:19:00,097 --> 00:19:03,055 It was amazing, because after all we had been through with them... 350 00:19:03,142 --> 00:19:04,473 Nobody really knew about it, 351 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,803 but we were sort of scrambling for cash for a minute. 352 00:19:07,897 --> 00:19:10,059 [STEVE] Interscope wasn't doin' great at that moment. 353 00:19:10,191 --> 00:19:14,731 And Jimmy had this mad, obsessed focus on the big picture. 354 00:19:19,992 --> 00:19:23,326 [JIMMY] The '90s were really volatile times in America. 355 00:19:23,412 --> 00:19:27,201 And music was incredible. They really had something to say. 356 00:19:28,167 --> 00:19:32,661 And we wanted a record company in the spirit of Atlantic Records in 1970, 357 00:19:32,755 --> 00:19:38,000 when they had Ray Charles, Led Zeppelin, Aretha Franklin, The Rolling Stones. 358 00:19:38,094 --> 00:19:40,836 Those were the greatest artists of their time, 359 00:19:40,930 --> 00:19:44,139 both from the urban world and from the rock world. 360 00:19:44,225 --> 00:19:46,091 And that's what we were trying to do. 361 00:19:49,313 --> 00:19:52,021 [STEVE] I walked into Jimmy's office one day. 362 00:19:52,108 --> 00:19:54,770 He goes, Steve, you know what your problem is? 363 00:19:55,861 --> 00:19:59,775 And he drew a straight line. And he goes, That's you. 364 00:19:59,865 --> 00:20:02,152 He goes, You know what we gotta bring into your life? 365 00:20:02,243 --> 00:20:04,280 And he squiggles, We gotta get some of that. 366 00:20:04,620 --> 00:20:06,156 [PEOPLE SHOUTING] 367 00:20:08,791 --> 00:20:09,952 Fuck the police! 368 00:20:10,209 --> 00:20:13,452 We go to Westwood, Brentwood, Whitewood, all that. 369 00:20:15,798 --> 00:20:17,630 [MALE REPORTER] It began as a high-speed chase 370 00:20:17,717 --> 00:20:19,549 according to the California Highway Patrol 371 00:20:19,635 --> 00:20:21,046 and ended early Sunday morning 372 00:20:21,137 --> 00:20:24,801 with Rodney King being brutally beaten by Los Angeles police officers. 373 00:20:24,890 --> 00:20:26,631 ♪ Tonight's the night I get in some shit ♪ 374 00:20:26,726 --> 00:20:27,726 ♪ Yeah ♪ 375 00:20:27,810 --> 00:20:29,676 ♪ Deep cover on the incognito tip ♪ 376 00:20:30,146 --> 00:20:33,059 ♪ Killin' motherfuckers if I ♪ ♪ have to Peelin' caps, too ♪ 377 00:20:33,149 --> 00:20:34,981 ♪ 'Cause you niggas ♪ ♪ know I'm comin' at you ♪ 378 00:20:35,192 --> 00:20:36,592 ♪ I guess that's part of the game ♪ 379 00:20:37,153 --> 00:20:40,487 ♪ But I feel for the nigga who think ♪ ♪ He just gonna come and change thangs ♪ 380 00:20:40,573 --> 00:20:43,156 ♪ With the swiftness. ♪ ♪ So get it right with the quickness ♪ 381 00:20:43,325 --> 00:20:45,487 ♪ And let me handle my business, yo ♪ 382 00:20:45,828 --> 00:20:49,662 [DR. DRE] During the making ofThe Chronic, LA was literally on fire. 383 00:20:50,166 --> 00:20:54,330 Niggas was coming in the studio with TVs and toasters and all kind of shit. 384 00:20:54,420 --> 00:20:57,128 It was like the fucking swap meet in the mic booth. 385 00:20:57,214 --> 00:20:59,501 Like, man, What the fuck are you guys doing? 386 00:20:59,675 --> 00:21:01,757 We're trying to work on a fucking record. 387 00:21:01,844 --> 00:21:04,176 I, personally, was like, Fuck that, nigga. 388 00:21:04,263 --> 00:21:06,550 'Cause I went out looting and stole all kinds of shit 389 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,096 and brought it all back to studio. 390 00:21:08,184 --> 00:21:11,427 We nabbed D.O.C., Yeah, get your ass in the park, nigga, come on. 391 00:21:14,690 --> 00:21:16,772 [MALE REPORTER] A Los Angeles Times poll out today 392 00:21:16,859 --> 00:21:19,647 says that Californians cited a breakdown of moral values 393 00:21:19,737 --> 00:21:21,694 and a lack of economic opportunity 394 00:21:21,781 --> 00:21:25,115 as the two leading causes of the Los Angeles riots. 395 00:21:25,618 --> 00:21:28,360 Well, young rap musicians have some ideas of their own 396 00:21:28,454 --> 00:21:30,491 about what caused the deadly violence. 397 00:21:30,581 --> 00:21:32,322 Yeah, well, you know how dogs think that... 398 00:21:32,416 --> 00:21:34,157 Dogs is mainly, you know... 399 00:21:34,251 --> 00:21:36,646 They cool as long as you don't fuck with them or irritate them. 400 00:21:36,670 --> 00:21:40,584 Once you irritate them, they react, you know, and that's how we are. You know? 401 00:21:40,674 --> 00:21:43,917 We cool and all, but, you know, once something pop, everybody... 402 00:21:44,053 --> 00:21:45,384 [BARKING] 403 00:21:52,686 --> 00:21:56,099 Wow. New York, just like I pictured it. 404 00:21:56,232 --> 00:21:59,099 Skyscrapers. Everything. [LAUGHS] 405 00:21:59,193 --> 00:22:00,793 [SNOOP DOGG] Where the chicken place at? 406 00:22:01,153 --> 00:22:04,817 The Chronic took about eight months to a year to make. 407 00:22:04,907 --> 00:22:07,899 And then the part of shopping it, that's a whole nother deal. 408 00:22:07,993 --> 00:22:09,154 Where's that leg at? 409 00:22:09,245 --> 00:22:12,078 [DR. DRE] This was that do-or-die album. 410 00:22:12,164 --> 00:22:15,407 Put my body into this record and my soul into it. 411 00:22:15,501 --> 00:22:19,039 I had mixed it, mastered it, did all the artwork and everything. 412 00:22:19,213 --> 00:22:21,955 The way it is in the stores right now is the way I was shopping it. 413 00:22:22,049 --> 00:22:27,044 I'm going to every record company there is in Los Angeles, fly out to New York. 414 00:22:27,137 --> 00:22:28,844 I'm playing it for everybody. 415 00:22:28,931 --> 00:22:31,923 For some reason, everybody's turning me down- 416 00:22:33,602 --> 00:22:36,970 There was so many companies out there that turned Death Row down, 417 00:22:37,064 --> 00:22:41,023 that didn't even wanna be dealing with that coming off of the N.W.A. situation. 418 00:22:41,110 --> 00:22:43,772 Nobody wanted to deal with this gangsta rap thing. 419 00:22:44,154 --> 00:22:45,549 [DR. DRE] Some of the companies was saying 420 00:22:45,573 --> 00:22:47,814 they didn't wanna deal with the situation I was in 421 00:22:47,908 --> 00:22:49,774 as far as Ruthless and the contracts. 422 00:22:49,869 --> 00:22:51,701 And Eazy-E and Jerry Heller, 423 00:22:51,787 --> 00:22:55,280 they're trying to starve me out to get me to come back in on my hands and knees. 424 00:22:55,374 --> 00:22:57,331 And I started second-guessing myself. 425 00:22:57,626 --> 00:23:01,290 Is it possible that what I think is good isn't good, 426 00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:04,589 because everybody is telling me it's not working? 427 00:23:04,675 --> 00:23:06,611 [MALE REPORTER] And this was what they were calling trash, 428 00:23:06,635 --> 00:23:09,297 cassettes and CDs of rap they say is offensive. 429 00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:15,176 1992, there was tremendous hostility to the rap business. 430 00:23:15,269 --> 00:23:18,933 The police were very sensitive to what had happened in Los Angeles. 431 00:23:19,023 --> 00:23:24,143 And a guy named Bill Bennett with C. Delores Tucker adopted this topic. 432 00:23:24,236 --> 00:23:26,819 That's what gangsta rap is doing to our children, 433 00:23:27,031 --> 00:23:28,442 turning them into gangsters. 434 00:23:28,532 --> 00:23:30,273 [FUCHS] It was a very high-profile war. 435 00:23:32,494 --> 00:23:33,889 [STOUTE] The record companies were scared. 436 00:23:33,913 --> 00:23:38,157 Not because it wasn't making money, they were afraid to deal with the people. 437 00:23:38,334 --> 00:23:40,061 [JIMMY] We'd come out of the rock and roll world, you know, 438 00:23:40,085 --> 00:23:43,328 so, I wasn't really understanding hip-hop, and I'm the first person to admit that. 439 00:23:43,797 --> 00:23:46,505 But I had a lot of respect for John McClane. 440 00:23:46,926 --> 00:23:49,088 And John came to me and said that 441 00:23:49,178 --> 00:23:53,217 he had this record by this producer that was extraordinary. 442 00:23:53,474 --> 00:23:55,431 It was the guy from N. W.A. 443 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,767 I didn't know who Dr. Dre was. 444 00:23:58,854 --> 00:24:00,765 But just like Trent Reznor, 445 00:24:00,856 --> 00:24:03,598 there was three or four different lawsuits pending. 446 00:24:03,692 --> 00:24:06,605 There's a lot of complications, a lot of weird stuff. 447 00:24:06,695 --> 00:24:09,403 No one wanted to go near it. It was a mess. 448 00:24:10,616 --> 00:24:14,701 All I remember is that Dre and Suge came in to play us The Chronic. 449 00:24:20,376 --> 00:24:22,834 [HIP-HOP MUSIC PLAYING] 450 00:24:24,546 --> 00:24:27,664 I said, Dre, who recorded this for you? 451 00:24:28,676 --> 00:24:29,916 He said, What do you mean? 452 00:24:30,010 --> 00:24:32,291 I said, Who's the recording engineer? And he said, Me. 453 00:24:33,263 --> 00:24:36,472 You produced it and you were the engineer? Yes. 454 00:24:36,558 --> 00:24:40,517 I said, Wow. This guy will define lnterscope. 455 00:24:40,604 --> 00:24:42,971 ♪ One, two, three and to the four ♪ 456 00:24:43,065 --> 00:24:45,523 ♪ Snoop Doggy Dogg and ♪ ♪ Dr. Dre Is at the door ♪ 457 00:24:45,609 --> 00:24:47,816 ♪ Ready to make an ♪ ♪ entrance, so back on up ♪ 458 00:24:47,903 --> 00:24:49,743 ♪ 'Cause you know we're ♪ ♪ about to rip shit up ♪ 459 00:24:49,822 --> 00:24:52,735 ♪ Give me the microphone first ♪ ♪ So I can bust, like a bubble ♪ 460 00:24:52,908 --> 00:24:55,548 ♪ Compton and Long Beach together ♪ ♪ Now you know you're in trouble ♪ 461 00:24:55,577 --> 00:24:58,035 ♪ Ain't nothing but a G thang, baby ♪ 462 00:24:58,122 --> 00:25:00,580 ♪ Two loc'ed out niggas, so we're crazy ♪ 463 00:25:00,666 --> 00:25:03,033 ♪ Death Row is the label that pays me ♪ 464 00:25:03,127 --> 00:25:05,539 ♪ Unfadeable, ♪ ♪ so please don't try to fade this ♪ 465 00:25:05,629 --> 00:25:07,961 ♪ But, um, back to the lecture at hand... ♪ 466 00:25:08,048 --> 00:25:11,006 [JIMMY] Dre's sonics were far superior 467 00:25:11,093 --> 00:25:14,006 to any rock record being made or any hip-hop. 468 00:25:14,096 --> 00:25:16,508 It just sounded better than anything else on my speakers. 469 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,975 Jimmy was unlike any other record exec that I ever met. 470 00:25:21,061 --> 00:25:24,144 He wasn't talking about how many records we were gonna sell. 471 00:25:24,231 --> 00:25:26,222 It was a conversation about the an'. 472 00:25:26,316 --> 00:25:31,106 [JIMMY] I said, Wow, these guys remind me of when I first saw The Rolling Stones. 473 00:25:31,196 --> 00:25:33,028 They're the same as Mick and Keith. 474 00:25:33,115 --> 00:25:35,857 They scare you, but their music brings you in. 475 00:25:36,035 --> 00:25:38,402 ♪ But now it's time for me ♪ ♪ To make my impression felt ♪ 476 00:25:38,495 --> 00:25:41,032 ♪ So sit back, ♪ ♪ relax And strap on your seat belt ♪ 477 00:25:41,123 --> 00:25:43,615 ♪ You never been on a ♪ ♪ ride like this before ♪ 478 00:25:43,709 --> 00:25:46,121 ♪ With a producer who can ♪ ♪ rap And control the maestro ♪ 479 00:25:46,211 --> 00:25:49,044 ♪ At the same time With the ♪ ♪ dope rhyme that I kick ♪ 480 00:25:49,131 --> 00:25:51,498 ♪ You know and I know I ♪ ♪ flow some old funky shit ♪ 481 00:25:51,592 --> 00:25:54,960 I said, I'll tell you what, if you guys don't move on me, 482 00:25:55,971 --> 00:26:00,056 and give me two to three weeks, I can clear up all these lawsuits. 483 00:26:00,976 --> 00:26:02,616 And Suge and Dre looked at me and said... 484 00:26:02,644 --> 00:26:04,385 Okay, that sounds good to me. 485 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,391 [STOUTE] I don't know any other white executive 486 00:26:06,482 --> 00:26:07,938 would've took on what Jimmy took on, 487 00:26:08,025 --> 00:26:11,734 which was one of the biggest headaches to come through the industry ever, probably. 488 00:26:11,820 --> 00:26:14,903 [STEVE] I remember sitting in the meeting and the promotion guys were saying, 489 00:26:15,157 --> 00:26:17,239 We ain't gonna get radio to play that. 490 00:26:17,326 --> 00:26:21,365 And Jimmy's like, I want you to buy radio spots in the top markets. 491 00:26:21,497 --> 00:26:22,497 All of them. 492 00:26:22,581 --> 00:26:25,448 Get this hook played, because the hook is undeniable. 493 00:26:25,959 --> 00:26:27,415 I'm the boss. Go do it. 494 00:26:29,546 --> 00:26:32,538 92.3 The Beat. What you wanna say to The Beat? 495 00:26:32,633 --> 00:26:34,569 ♪ It's like this. ♪ ♪ And who gives a fuck about those? ♪ 496 00:26:34,593 --> 00:26:37,005 ♪ So just chill till the next episode... ♪ 497 00:26:37,930 --> 00:26:39,824 [NAS] When The Chronic hit, it changed the world. 498 00:26:39,848 --> 00:26:42,385 Musically, he's now left Earth. 499 00:26:42,893 --> 00:26:44,884 Funk, break beats, reggae. 500 00:26:44,978 --> 00:26:47,766 The whole fanatic development, the ebb and flow, 501 00:26:47,856 --> 00:26:52,191 the stories about the uprising, the riots, coming out of that dark period. 502 00:26:52,277 --> 00:26:56,817 And he delivered Snoop on a silver platter with bullet shells around him. 503 00:26:56,907 --> 00:26:59,865 ♪ Falling back on that ass ♪ ♪ With a hellafied gangsta lean ♪ 504 00:26:59,952 --> 00:27:03,115 ♪ Getting funky on the mic Like ♪ ♪ a old batch of collard greens ♪ 505 00:27:03,205 --> 00:27:05,365 ♪ It's the capital S, oh yes, ♪ ♪ I'm fresh N double-O, P ♪ 506 00:27:05,415 --> 00:27:07,452 ♪ D,O, double-G,Y,D,O, ♪ ♪ double-G, you see ♪ 507 00:27:07,543 --> 00:27:09,143 [SNOOP DOGG] When Jimmy Lovine was like, 508 00:27:09,628 --> 00:27:14,668 Snoop, I wanna get you guys on the cover of the Rolling Stone magazine. 509 00:27:14,758 --> 00:27:16,214 You guys are like Mick and Keith. 510 00:27:16,301 --> 00:27:18,793 I'm like, Who the fuck is Mick and Keith, nigga? 511 00:27:18,887 --> 00:27:20,878 Fuck the Rolling Stone magazine, nigga, 512 00:27:20,973 --> 00:27:23,431 I wanna be on The Source magazine cover, nigga. 513 00:27:23,517 --> 00:27:26,350 Do you know that is hip-hop supremacy? 514 00:27:26,436 --> 00:27:29,349 No, no, the Rolling Stone magazine is the... 515 00:27:29,439 --> 00:27:31,720 I'm like, Man, I don't even fuck with The Rolling Stones. 516 00:27:31,775 --> 00:27:33,857 I couldn't tell you one of them niggas' songs, man. 517 00:27:33,944 --> 00:27:35,230 Fuck them. 518 00:27:37,030 --> 00:27:39,830 And that motherfucker blew up, nigga. That motherfucker was everywhere. 519 00:27:39,908 --> 00:27:41,069 I started going on tour 520 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,680 and it was just white folks coming up to me left and right like, 521 00:27:43,745 --> 00:27:46,203 Oh my God, we love you. Snoop Doggy Dogg. 522 00:27:46,290 --> 00:27:48,452 All around the world, like, Damn, Jimmy Lovine, 523 00:27:48,542 --> 00:27:52,251 I ain't never had that many white people coming for me in my whole life, cuz, 524 00:27:52,337 --> 00:27:55,329 telling me how much they love me, cuz. Thank you, I appreciate that. 525 00:27:55,716 --> 00:27:57,582 We started having success right away. 526 00:27:58,594 --> 00:28:01,006 So, Iput Suge and Dre and Death Row Records 527 00:28:01,096 --> 00:28:03,133 right next to me on the same floor. 528 00:28:03,223 --> 00:28:04,534 [COHEN] Jimmy took Suge under his wings. 529 00:28:04,558 --> 00:28:06,845 I mean, Jimmy used to have football games at his house. 530 00:28:06,935 --> 00:28:09,472 He would have Suge over there every Sunday with the Kennedys. 531 00:28:09,605 --> 00:28:11,016 All right, team, go, team! 532 00:28:11,106 --> 00:28:13,268 Every Sunday, it was football at the lovines'. 533 00:28:13,358 --> 00:28:15,474 How many people have a football field at their house? 534 00:28:15,652 --> 00:28:17,463 [JANET] We would never know who was going to show up. 535 00:28:17,487 --> 00:28:19,774 [PAUL WACHTER] Wayne Gretzky would show up, and Bon Jovi. 536 00:28:19,865 --> 00:28:21,355 - Gene Simmons. - Tom Jones. 537 00:28:21,450 --> 00:28:23,737 - John McEnroe. - [PAUL] Eddie Van Halen played. 538 00:28:24,077 --> 00:28:27,320 And it was an honest to goodness, serious football. 539 00:28:27,414 --> 00:28:29,174 You didn't! You blocked me the entire way up! 540 00:28:29,208 --> 00:28:30,208 I did not! 541 00:28:30,292 --> 00:28:31,703 - Second down. - No, no. 542 00:28:31,793 --> 00:28:33,625 - Second down. - Not complete, third down. 543 00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:35,623 - Second down. - Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy. 544 00:28:36,548 --> 00:28:38,209 - Ball's up there. - Jimmy. 545 00:28:38,300 --> 00:28:40,211 [FUCHS] Jimmy was very serious about winning. 546 00:28:40,302 --> 00:28:42,714 But I gotta tell you, we were all serious about winning. 547 00:28:49,102 --> 00:28:51,389 [COHEN] The reason Interscope was successful 548 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,972 versus a lot of the other start-ups at the time, 549 00:28:54,066 --> 00:28:55,101 was Jimmy was an animal. 550 00:28:55,776 --> 00:28:58,643 I mean, the most driven and brilliant person at the same time. 551 00:28:58,820 --> 00:29:00,231 He was never off. 552 00:29:00,489 --> 00:29:04,232 And he didn't understand why everybody else wasn't the same way. 553 00:29:06,078 --> 00:29:07,347 [VICKI] We were both in production mode. 554 00:29:07,371 --> 00:29:11,330 I was producing kids and a family, and he was producing his company. 555 00:29:11,833 --> 00:29:14,621 We had the goal to make this incredible career. 556 00:29:14,836 --> 00:29:16,076 Vicki's an attorney. 557 00:29:16,171 --> 00:29:19,163 Vicki's just, you know, she was very, very smart. 558 00:29:19,341 --> 00:29:20,957 And Vicki ran their life. 559 00:29:21,260 --> 00:29:22,466 [VICKI] The vision was, 560 00:29:22,552 --> 00:29:26,420 we knew that Jimmy's thing was going to be the thing that would change the world. 561 00:29:27,099 --> 00:29:31,184 So, it was worth it for me to make small sacrifices. 562 00:29:31,270 --> 00:29:35,980 I mean, Jimmy used to talk to his artists every single night. 563 00:29:36,275 --> 00:29:38,687 He would literally have panic attacks on the weekends 564 00:29:38,777 --> 00:29:41,439 because it was the weekend and he couldn't get a hold of people. 565 00:29:41,530 --> 00:29:43,316 Like, he would just call, call, call, call. 566 00:29:43,407 --> 00:29:44,613 Like, obsessive, 567 00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:47,738 because he didn't really care at all about anything but hip-hop. 568 00:29:48,370 --> 00:29:49,451 Let's face it. 569 00:29:49,538 --> 00:29:52,246 [STEP JOHNSON] The street game is about money, getting that paper. 570 00:29:52,332 --> 00:29:54,949 Jimmy admired Suge. They cared about each other. 571 00:29:55,043 --> 00:29:57,455 They was making money together, winning. 572 00:29:58,046 --> 00:30:02,085 But I don't think Jimmy realized how deep the culture shock was 573 00:30:02,175 --> 00:30:04,712 that he was getting ready to get into at the time. 574 00:30:05,637 --> 00:30:07,799 And they call it What's My Name? It's called Who Am I? 575 00:30:07,889 --> 00:30:09,345 - WOMAN: Who Am I? - Yeah. 576 00:30:16,982 --> 00:30:19,815 [STEP JOHNSON] After The Chronic came out, the most anticipated album, 577 00:30:20,068 --> 00:30:22,856 not just in America, but over in Europe, everywhere, 578 00:30:22,946 --> 00:30:25,779 was gonna beSnoop's first album, Doggystyle. 579 00:30:25,907 --> 00:30:30,117 ♪ Snoop Doggy D099 ♪ 580 00:30:30,912 --> 00:30:34,496 ♪ Snoop Doggy D099 ♪ 581 00:30:35,250 --> 00:30:37,662 ♪ It's the bow to the wow ♪ ♪ Creeping and crawling ♪ 582 00:30:37,753 --> 00:30:40,165 ♪ Yiggy yes y'allin, Snoop Doggy Dogg in ♪ 583 00:30:40,255 --> 00:30:42,496 ♪ The motherfucking house like everyday ♪ 584 00:30:42,591 --> 00:30:44,923 ♪ Dropping shit with my nigga Mr. Dr. Dre ♪ 585 00:30:45,552 --> 00:30:46,988 [STEP JOHNSON] I mean, it was laid out. 586 00:30:47,012 --> 00:30:49,293 I mean, Jimmy and them had learned a lot from The Chronic. 587 00:30:49,598 --> 00:30:50,929 Great marketing plan. 588 00:30:51,016 --> 00:30:54,099 [FUCHS] And, also, music had converted to CDs. 589 00:30:54,311 --> 00:30:58,350 And people didn't understand that it cost a lot less to make a CD 590 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,226 than it cost to make cassettes. 591 00:31:00,317 --> 00:31:04,106 So, that was the most lucrative time in the history of the music business. 592 00:31:07,032 --> 00:31:09,886 [STEP JOHNSON] We knew we was getting ready to make a killing with this music. 593 00:31:09,910 --> 00:31:11,025 [NAS] Oh, It was crazy. 594 00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:12,325 But you know what that means, 595 00:31:12,412 --> 00:31:15,120 when that word million is hitting the street in the '90s, 596 00:31:15,457 --> 00:31:17,869 street guys rapping about the streets. 597 00:31:17,959 --> 00:31:20,075 Now, we attach the word million to their name, 598 00:31:20,170 --> 00:31:21,456 it flipped the streets. 599 00:31:21,755 --> 00:31:24,417 'Cause, now, even/body's muscling their way into rap. 600 00:31:26,968 --> 00:31:29,155 [FAB 5 FREDDY] In fact, what happened in the shooting of that video, 601 00:31:29,179 --> 00:31:31,261 first morning, crowd gathers. 602 00:31:31,348 --> 00:31:34,557 My assistant directors are coming over to me, going, Fab, we got a problem. 603 00:31:34,643 --> 00:31:37,431 I'm like, What? These guys are not listening to anybody. 604 00:31:37,521 --> 00:31:39,281 They were trying to ask people to step back. 605 00:31:39,314 --> 00:31:41,976 One fight breaks out over there. Another fight breaks out. 606 00:31:42,067 --> 00:31:43,933 Yo, fuck you. We ain't moving nowhere, cuz. 607 00:31:44,027 --> 00:31:46,064 Dre said, I can't say nothing to them guys. 608 00:31:46,154 --> 00:31:48,236 Next thing I know, police helicopters hovering. 609 00:31:48,323 --> 00:31:49,813 So, we shut down the shoot. 610 00:31:51,118 --> 00:31:52,654 [SIREN WAILING] 611 00:31:54,371 --> 00:31:57,291 [FAB 5 FREDDY] And so, later, we went back to Dre's house, and we huddled. 612 00:31:57,374 --> 00:32:00,241 Dre said, Look, Fab, if you can hang, you're welcome to stay here. 613 00:32:00,335 --> 00:32:02,667 And, like, we will get this video done. 614 00:32:05,382 --> 00:32:07,464 [PIANO PLAYING] 615 00:32:08,718 --> 00:32:13,258 That whole summer, I felt like I was living in the record, The Chronic, 616 00:32:13,849 --> 00:32:17,683 because the sex, the violence, the hood, it was a wild scene. 617 00:32:17,853 --> 00:32:19,435 [MAN] Dr. Gin and Juice. 618 00:32:19,855 --> 00:32:23,348 [FAB 5 FREDDY] But I remember after three shoots where Snoop didn't show up, 619 00:32:23,442 --> 00:32:26,480 I was like, Dre, man, when is Snoop gonna get here? 620 00:32:26,820 --> 00:32:30,108 And that's when Dre explained to me that somebody had been shot and killed 621 00:32:30,198 --> 00:32:31,688 and that Snoop was on the low. 622 00:32:31,992 --> 00:32:34,359 [MALE REPORTER] It happened in this Los Angeles park. 623 00:32:34,828 --> 00:32:38,913 Snoop's bodyguard shot and killed 24-year-old Philip Woldemariam. 624 00:32:39,124 --> 00:32:40,740 Snoop didn't pull the trigger, 625 00:32:40,834 --> 00:32:43,826 but he, the bodyguard and a third man were all charged with murder 626 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,003 because prosecutors say they hunted down Woldemariam 627 00:32:47,090 --> 00:32:48,455 after an earlier argument. 628 00:32:48,550 --> 00:32:50,791 Snoop Doggy Dogg, whose real name is Calvin Broadus, 629 00:32:50,886 --> 00:32:52,342 claims self-defense. 630 00:32:52,429 --> 00:32:54,670 [MALE REPORTER] This would be appropriately characterized 631 00:32:54,764 --> 00:32:57,381 as a gang-motivated type killing. 632 00:32:57,767 --> 00:32:59,553 [JIMMY] I remember Suge calling and saying, 633 00:32:59,644 --> 00:33:01,122 You're about to hear something on the news. 634 00:33:01,146 --> 00:33:03,228 Just know that our guys are all right 635 00:33:03,648 --> 00:33:05,480 and it's all gonna be okay. 636 00:33:06,109 --> 00:33:09,522 Next thing I knew, cops everywhere, surrounding the building. 637 00:33:09,946 --> 00:33:13,814 That was rough. You know, we'd never been involved in something like that. 638 00:33:14,784 --> 00:33:16,775 D.O.C.: That caught me completely off-guard. 639 00:33:17,537 --> 00:33:20,529 But by that time, gangbanging had showed up. 640 00:33:20,624 --> 00:33:23,036 You know, and Suge would show up with these big dudes, 641 00:33:23,126 --> 00:33:26,790 red everywhere, and Snoop had his crew in blues, 642 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,666 and it was just nuts. 643 00:33:32,761 --> 00:33:36,595 Yeah, you know, um, it was kind of exciting 644 00:33:36,681 --> 00:33:38,843 because the environment was kind of thuggish. 645 00:33:38,934 --> 00:33:41,426 It was Bloods on this side, Crips on this side, 646 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,978 and I'm hearing all these different war stories. 647 00:33:44,439 --> 00:33:47,807 And I feel like it was something I needed, 648 00:33:47,901 --> 00:33:50,939 because if I'm producing a record for a particular artist, 649 00:33:51,446 --> 00:33:55,531 it's like you have to get into the type of vibe that they're in 650 00:33:55,951 --> 00:33:59,694 and understand the type of environment that they're coming from, creatively, 651 00:33:59,788 --> 00:34:03,406 and just, you know... You have to almost be that person. 652 00:34:14,469 --> 00:34:15,675 [COHEN] Marilyn Manson? 653 00:34:15,804 --> 00:34:17,215 Yeah, he was pretty rough. 654 00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:20,131 Trent insisted that we sign him. 655 00:34:20,225 --> 00:34:21,841 [TRENT] He was a really smart guy 656 00:34:21,935 --> 00:34:24,472 that I thought was making really compelling music, you know, 657 00:34:24,563 --> 00:34:25,644 and believed it. 658 00:34:25,981 --> 00:34:28,222 Were we both 100% aware 659 00:34:28,316 --> 00:34:31,525 that we were using mechanisms to shock people? 660 00:34:31,611 --> 00:34:32,976 Yeah, of course we did. 661 00:34:33,572 --> 00:34:34,966 ♪ [SNOOP DOGG] ♪ ♪ This is for the G's ♪ 662 00:34:34,990 --> 00:34:36,572 ♪ And this is for the hustlas ♪ 663 00:34:36,658 --> 00:34:38,774 ♪ This is for the hustlas ♪ ♪ Now back to the G's ♪ 664 00:34:39,244 --> 00:34:42,612 [TRENT] So, we were looking at some houses to rent to set up studio in a house, 665 00:34:42,706 --> 00:34:43,849 'cause that's what we wanted to do, 666 00:34:43,873 --> 00:34:47,457 just live and breathe and constantly make music and see what happens. 667 00:34:47,544 --> 00:34:49,751 - And one house in particular... - [DOG BARKING] 668 00:34:49,838 --> 00:34:52,421 Which happens to be the cheapest, was on Cielo Drive. 669 00:34:53,008 --> 00:34:56,251 Nice yard, beautiful view, you know, peaceful vibe. 670 00:34:56,344 --> 00:35:01,180 Then to find out that's where the Manson-Tate murders took place. 671 00:35:02,684 --> 00:35:05,142 And thought, Well, fuck it, let's rent that house. 672 00:35:06,187 --> 00:35:09,930 [JIMMY] So, Dre had Snoop, and Trent had Marilyn Manson. 673 00:35:10,108 --> 00:35:12,520 And when you have great artists like that, 674 00:35:12,611 --> 00:35:16,980 you want their message and what they're doing as pure as possible. 675 00:35:17,073 --> 00:35:21,112 What you do is you give them the keys and you say, Drive. 676 00:35:21,202 --> 00:35:23,443 ♪ You let me violate you ♪ 677 00:35:23,538 --> 00:35:26,781 [DR. DRE] Back at that time, I loved fast cars. I had a white Testarossa. 678 00:35:26,875 --> 00:35:29,537 ♪ You let me desecrate you ♪ 679 00:35:29,836 --> 00:35:31,793 [DR. DRE] Ispeed out on Wilshire Boulevard. 680 00:35:31,963 --> 00:35:34,125 ♪ You let me penetrate you ♪ 681 00:35:34,215 --> 00:35:35,546 [DR. DRE] A cop gets behind me. 682 00:35:36,259 --> 00:35:37,259 Woop, woop. 683 00:35:37,427 --> 00:35:39,213 ♪ You let me complicate you ♪ 684 00:35:39,804 --> 00:35:42,341 I put it in gear and I take off. 685 00:35:42,474 --> 00:35:46,308 ♪ Help me. I broke apart my insides ♪ 686 00:35:48,813 --> 00:35:53,432 [DR. DRE] Somewhere between 100, 120 miles an hour, I see more lights behind me. 687 00:35:53,568 --> 00:35:56,060 So, I decide I wanna go a little faster. 688 00:35:56,905 --> 00:35:58,395 Now, I'm in a high-speed chase. 689 00:35:58,490 --> 00:36:00,652 ♪ Help me get away from myself ♪ 690 00:36:00,742 --> 00:36:02,702 I don't know what he was doing. It was ridiculous. 691 00:36:06,706 --> 00:36:10,665 ♪ I want to feel you from the inside ♪ 692 00:36:11,711 --> 00:36:15,420 ♪ I want to fuck you like an animal ♪ 693 00:36:17,384 --> 00:36:20,217 ♪ My whole existence is flawed ♪ 694 00:36:22,639 --> 00:36:25,631 ♪ You get me closer to God ♪ 695 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,312 Andre got into the high-speed chase in that Ferrari 696 00:36:40,407 --> 00:36:42,614 about a year 697 00:36:42,701 --> 00:36:46,114 into us dating. 698 00:36:46,538 --> 00:36:49,621 I suppose I was innocent and naive 699 00:36:49,708 --> 00:36:53,793 about all of the stuff that has to do with Dr. Dre. 700 00:36:54,462 --> 00:36:57,955 I loved that he was confident and yet humble. 701 00:36:58,049 --> 00:36:59,631 It's such a great combination. 702 00:36:59,884 --> 00:37:02,626 We were incredibly compatible. 703 00:37:02,971 --> 00:37:06,635 But my family and friends were leery 704 00:37:06,725 --> 00:37:10,138 because they only knew Andre through media. 705 00:37:10,228 --> 00:37:12,435 They didn't know the Andre that I knew. 706 00:37:13,356 --> 00:37:18,601 But I think a persona was connected to him that wasn't true. 707 00:37:18,695 --> 00:37:20,106 They knew Dr. Dre. 708 00:37:20,321 --> 00:37:23,439 Her family is giving her pressure about me 709 00:37:23,533 --> 00:37:27,117 because they're reading about a lot of the bullshit that was happening with me. 710 00:37:27,704 --> 00:37:31,368 And the fucked-up part about that is, we'd just started dating when... 711 00:37:33,710 --> 00:37:36,168 I had to turn myself in for five months. 712 00:37:51,811 --> 00:37:52,846 Money. 713 00:37:55,774 --> 00:37:57,418 [DR. DRE] Hey, hey. [COREY HAWKINS] There he is. 714 00:37:57,442 --> 00:37:58,502 [DR. DRE] What's up with it? 715 00:37:58,526 --> 00:37:59,526 There he is. 716 00:37:59,569 --> 00:38:00,629 - How you doing, man? - I'm good. 717 00:38:00,653 --> 00:38:03,987 - How you doin'? - I don't know. It's bittersweet. [LAUGHS] 718 00:38:04,073 --> 00:38:05,154 Last night, huh? 719 00:38:05,241 --> 00:38:07,528 - Say hi to Mr. Young again. - Hi. How you doing? 720 00:38:07,619 --> 00:38:08,939 - You coming to the party? - Yeah. 721 00:38:08,995 --> 00:38:09,995 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 722 00:38:11,289 --> 00:38:12,620 All right. 723 00:38:14,083 --> 00:38:17,121 This is the last night of shooting. I'm excited. 724 00:38:17,378 --> 00:38:20,245 Yeah, I told her you're gonna learn a lot about Dad. [LAUGHS] 725 00:38:20,340 --> 00:38:22,251 - [COREY] What have you learned? - A lot. 726 00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:24,040 [LAUGHING] 727 00:38:24,844 --> 00:38:29,054 - I might go to the studio tonight after the set. - [COREY] I might follow you. 728 00:38:29,224 --> 00:38:30,635 I have no idea what I'm doing. 729 00:38:33,019 --> 00:38:34,635 [MAN] People that inspire you 730 00:38:34,729 --> 00:38:37,892 may not necessarily be the nicest people to be around. 731 00:38:37,982 --> 00:38:38,982 Yeah. 732 00:38:39,067 --> 00:38:41,559 Yet they inspire you. Right? 733 00:38:41,945 --> 00:38:45,313 - It's a hell of a motherfucking gray area. - Yeah. 734 00:38:45,406 --> 00:38:47,818 You know? And you gotta be vigilant about... 735 00:38:47,909 --> 00:38:49,570 [DR. DRE] What's important right now 736 00:38:49,661 --> 00:38:52,323 - are the fills at bar two and bar four. - [SUGE] Okay. 737 00:38:52,413 --> 00:38:55,326 - Light ones at two, you know what I mean? - Okay, let me do a take... 738 00:38:55,416 --> 00:38:57,248 - And then stronger ones at eight. - Okay. 739 00:38:57,585 --> 00:38:58,916 [VOCALIZING] 740 00:38:59,921 --> 00:39:01,753 - [SUGE] Okay. - [DR. DRE] Or... [VOCALIZING] 741 00:39:02,173 --> 00:39:03,275 [SUGE] Okay, see which one. Okay. 742 00:39:03,299 --> 00:39:04,568 Every now and then, switch it up- 743 00:39:04,592 --> 00:39:05,707 Okay, Okay- 744 00:39:06,761 --> 00:39:08,217 [MUSIC PLAYING] 745 00:39:14,435 --> 00:39:16,435 [DR. DRE] I'm not feeling the snare drum sound yet. 746 00:39:23,987 --> 00:39:25,273 Punch in a little bit later. 747 00:39:27,699 --> 00:39:29,281 Make me feel it, Suge. 748 00:39:29,659 --> 00:39:31,696 What happened to that crash, Suge? 749 00:39:33,580 --> 00:39:36,117 I need something a little bit more impressive. 750 00:39:36,332 --> 00:39:37,663 [SNARE DRUM PLAYING] 751 00:39:46,885 --> 00:39:48,341 [SNARE STOPS] 752 00:40:00,356 --> 00:40:02,518 ♪ I shall not fear no man but God ♪ 753 00:40:03,026 --> 00:40:04,826 ♪ Though I walk through ♪ ♪ the valley of death ♪ 754 00:40:05,862 --> 00:40:06,943 ♪ I shed so many tears ♪ 755 00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:08,646 ♪ If I should die before I wake ♪ 756 00:40:09,157 --> 00:40:11,649 ♪ Please God walk with me Grab ♪ ♪ a nigga and take me to heaven ♪ 757 00:40:16,039 --> 00:40:18,872 ♪ Back in elementary I thrived on misery ♪ 758 00:40:19,167 --> 00:40:21,704 ♪ Left me alone I grew up ♪ ♪ Amongst a dyin' breed ♪ 759 00:40:21,794 --> 00:40:24,035 ♪ Inside my mind couldn't ♪ ♪ find a place to rest ♪ 760 00:40:24,130 --> 00:40:26,588 ♪ Until I got that Thug ♪ ♪ Life Tatted on my chest ♪ 761 00:40:26,674 --> 00:40:30,292 ♪ Tell me can you feel me? I'm not ♪ ♪ livin' in the past, you wanna last ♪ 762 00:40:30,678 --> 00:40:32,635 ♪ Be the first to blast, remember Kato ♪ 763 00:40:32,847 --> 00:40:34,303 ♪ No longer with us, he's deceased ♪ 764 00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:36,677 ♪ Call in the sirens. ♪ ♪ Seen him murdered in the streets ♪ 765 00:40:36,768 --> 00:40:37,768 ♪ Now rest in peace ♪ 766 00:40:37,936 --> 00:40:40,177 ♪ Is there heaven for a G? Remember me ♪ 767 00:40:40,521 --> 00:40:43,513 ♪ So many homies in the ♪ ♪ cemetery Shed so many tears ♪ 768 00:40:45,818 --> 00:40:48,150 ♪ I suffered through the ♪ ♪ years And shed so many tears ♪ 769 00:40:48,571 --> 00:40:50,174 [JIMMY] Five years before he was on Death Row, 770 00:40:50,198 --> 00:40:52,530 Tupac was on Interscope and did three albums. 771 00:40:52,617 --> 00:40:56,201 In the beginning, it was a social class thing that he was confronting. 772 00:40:56,704 --> 00:41:00,038 He really wanted to represent disillusioned youth. 773 00:41:00,124 --> 00:41:02,582 [TU PAC] This world is such a Gimme, gimme, gimme. 774 00:41:02,669 --> 00:41:04,897 You know, everybody's, like, you're taught that from school... 775 00:41:04,921 --> 00:41:08,630 Everywhere, big business. You wanna be successful, you wanna be like Trump? 776 00:41:08,716 --> 00:41:12,175 Gimme, gimme, gimme, push, push, push, push, step, step, step, crush, crush, crush. 777 00:41:12,261 --> 00:41:16,755 I mean, can you imagine somebody havin' $32 million? 778 00:41:17,225 --> 00:41:20,092 Thirty-two. $32 million. 779 00:41:20,186 --> 00:41:23,929 And this person has nothing? And you can sleep? 780 00:41:24,357 --> 00:41:27,440 [WHALLEY] It was the systems that prevented the poor 781 00:41:27,527 --> 00:41:30,770 from finding opportunity in life that he was confronting. 782 00:41:31,406 --> 00:41:35,866 And what made him great is that he was highly emotional. 783 00:41:35,952 --> 00:41:38,785 But all of a sudden, things went strange. 784 00:41:39,247 --> 00:41:41,363 [MALE REPORTER] Shakur is no stranger to violence. 785 00:41:41,499 --> 00:41:46,118 In November 1994, he was shot during a robbery at a Manhattan recording studio. 786 00:41:46,713 --> 00:41:49,626 $40,000 worth of jewelry was taken from him. 787 00:41:49,757 --> 00:41:52,465 He also has a rap sheet as long as some of his songs. 788 00:41:52,552 --> 00:41:55,260 This was his reaction after his latest conviction. 789 00:41:55,388 --> 00:41:59,507 Nothin' the court can do can punish me more than I've been punished already. 790 00:41:59,934 --> 00:42:02,392 - [FEMALE REPORTER] In what way? - By bein' shot five times. 791 00:42:02,478 --> 00:42:05,457 Twice in the... I mean, nothin' the judge could tell me coulda made me not wanna 792 00:42:05,481 --> 00:42:07,188 carry a gun more than gettin' shot. 793 00:42:07,275 --> 00:42:09,391 So, I'm pickin' up, feel me? 794 00:42:13,281 --> 00:42:15,693 [DOUG] These kids were real. This stuff was really real. 795 00:42:15,783 --> 00:42:17,303 And we were right in the middle of it. 796 00:42:18,745 --> 00:42:21,407 When you take those extremes and you nurture them 797 00:42:22,206 --> 00:42:24,868 and not interfere with what they're doing, 798 00:42:25,835 --> 00:42:27,872 the potential is limitless. 799 00:42:28,796 --> 00:42:32,585 And that's what Interscope was about, empowering those artists. 800 00:42:36,971 --> 00:42:38,699 [DOUG] And I'll tell you what we got from it. 801 00:42:38,723 --> 00:42:41,431 We got some anxiety, we got a lot of laughs. 802 00:42:41,893 --> 00:42:44,476 And we huddled in the foxhole. 803 00:42:45,813 --> 00:42:47,929 ♪ And I don't want you ♪ ♪ and I don't need you ♪ 804 00:42:49,317 --> 00:42:52,150 ♪ Don't bother to resist, ♪ ♪ or I'll beat you ♪ 805 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,561 ♪ It's not your fault ♪ ♪ that you're always wrong ♪ 806 00:42:55,448 --> 00:42:57,985 ♪ The weak ones are there ♪ ♪ To justify the strong ♪ 807 00:42:58,826 --> 00:43:01,238 ♪ The beautiful people, ♪ ♪ the beautiful people ♪ 808 00:43:01,704 --> 00:43:04,992 ♪ It's all relative to ♪ ♪ the size of your steeple ♪ 809 00:43:05,166 --> 00:43:07,828 ♪ You can't see the forest for the trees ♪ 810 00:43:08,169 --> 00:43:11,662 ♪ And you can't smell your ♪ ♪ own shit on your knees ♪ 811 00:43:13,424 --> 00:43:16,792 [MALE REPORTER] Marilyn Manson, the most controversial act on the road today, 812 00:43:16,886 --> 00:43:19,594 coming to a sold-out arena near you. 813 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,159 [MALE REPORTER 2] He is causing cultural fights all over the country. 814 00:43:22,183 --> 00:43:24,515 Marilyn Manson is evil. 815 00:43:25,186 --> 00:43:27,678 ♪ Hey you, what do you see? ♪ 816 00:43:27,772 --> 00:43:31,811 [MALE REPORTER 3] In every city, Manson's arrival stirs protests and angry headlines. 817 00:43:31,901 --> 00:43:36,236 I've always identified with the character of Lucifer in the Bible. 818 00:43:36,489 --> 00:43:38,025 [MAN] We are here to worship Satan. 819 00:43:38,658 --> 00:43:41,195 Criminal charges can be a career ender. 820 00:43:41,994 --> 00:43:44,452 But not in the case of Snoop Doggy Dogg. 821 00:43:45,248 --> 00:43:48,036 Some accuse the rapper of making crime pay. 822 00:43:48,668 --> 00:43:52,127 Murder sells, that's why people do videos on sex and murder. 823 00:43:52,213 --> 00:43:53,440 [COHEN] From our point of view, 824 00:43:53,464 --> 00:43:55,796 everybody had the right to say what they were saying 825 00:43:55,883 --> 00:43:57,749 as long as they weren't breaking the law. 826 00:43:58,761 --> 00:44:01,048 If anything, we were always trying to calm things down. 827 00:44:02,223 --> 00:44:04,260 It was just impossible. 828 00:44:08,062 --> 00:44:10,040 Some of y'all don't appreciate what we talkin' about. 829 00:44:10,064 --> 00:44:11,864 But this is the only way we got to make money. 830 00:44:11,941 --> 00:44:13,919 And if you don't let me make my money on the street, 831 00:44:13,943 --> 00:44:17,061 I guarantee you, I will make my money on the street. 832 00:44:17,697 --> 00:44:20,860 The rap star Tupac Shakur is free on bond tonight 833 00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:22,691 after his arrest this weekend in Atlanta. 834 00:44:22,785 --> 00:44:25,743 Charged with shooting two off-duty police officers. 835 00:44:25,830 --> 00:44:28,183 [FEMALE REPORTER] He had been criticized for anti-police lyrics. 836 00:44:28,207 --> 00:44:29,868 [TU PAC] I don't gotta be a role model. 837 00:44:29,959 --> 00:44:32,041 I don't gotta hold your hand. I don't gotta do shit. 838 00:44:41,637 --> 00:44:45,596 [MALE REPORTER] Marilyn Manson's latest album recently went triple platinum. 839 00:44:45,683 --> 00:44:47,924 [CONGRESSMAN] And on the next page, the words go, 840 00:44:49,103 --> 00:44:50,935 It's not about East or West. 841 00:44:52,481 --> 00:44:54,392 It's about niggas and bitches, 842 00:44:55,610 --> 00:44:57,567 power and money, 843 00:44:58,821 --> 00:45:00,061 riders and punks. 844 00:45:01,949 --> 00:45:03,531 Which side are you on? 845 00:45:03,618 --> 00:45:05,700 And there's the sound of a gun cocking and firing. 846 00:45:07,663 --> 00:45:08,663 [ELECTRICITY CRACKLING] 847 00:45:19,175 --> 00:45:20,175 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 848 00:45:21,219 --> 00:45:22,219 And it ain't over! 849 00:45:22,386 --> 00:45:24,798 ♪ The beautiful people, ♪ ♪ the beautiful people ♪ 850 00:45:25,389 --> 00:45:27,801 ♪ The beautiful people, ♪ ♪ the beautiful people ♪ 851 00:45:28,976 --> 00:45:31,388 ♪ The beautiful people, ♪ ♪ the beautiful people ♪ 852 00:45:32,104 --> 00:45:34,516 ♪ The beautiful people, ♪ ♪ the beautiful people ♪ 853 00:45:39,153 --> 00:45:43,192 [TU PAC] Happy New Year to you, too. You did your job. I'm outta money. 854 00:45:43,282 --> 00:45:45,398 I'm outta all my resources. 855 00:45:45,493 --> 00:45:47,700 You made me look like the bad guy in my own community, 856 00:45:47,787 --> 00:45:49,243 and I appreciate it. 857 00:45:49,664 --> 00:45:51,996 [CONGRESSMAN] These niggas are still fucking talkin'. 858 00:45:52,792 --> 00:45:54,408 You niggas still breathing. 859 00:45:54,502 --> 00:45:55,833 Fuckin' roaches. 860 00:46:06,264 --> 00:46:07,720 [CHATTER ON RADIO] 861 00:46:09,475 --> 00:46:10,965 [BEEPING] 862 00:46:30,579 --> 00:46:33,788 [JIMMY] New York Times magazine section did a story on me. 863 00:46:33,874 --> 00:46:36,411 And from what I understand, this guy, Jonathan Leo, 864 00:46:36,544 --> 00:46:38,410 was at someone's house in the Hamptons. 865 00:46:38,713 --> 00:46:39,713 And they were saying, 866 00:46:39,797 --> 00:46:42,539 Who are the most disgusting purveyors of shmut in the world? 867 00:46:42,842 --> 00:46:45,459 So, this guy Jonathan Leo says, Look what Time Warner's doin'. 868 00:46:45,553 --> 00:46:51,094 They just bought 25% of this guy's record company for $100 million. 869 00:46:51,183 --> 00:46:54,517 So, the next day, in U. S. News and World Report, 870 00:46:54,603 --> 00:46:56,469 he wrote a story sayin', 871 00:46:56,564 --> 00:47:03,357 Time Warner buying 25% of Interscope is like buying 25% of a mustard gas factory. 872 00:47:04,071 --> 00:47:07,359 So, I'm like, Oh, man. Here we go. 873 00:47:13,497 --> 00:47:16,239 There has never been a time in the history of the world 874 00:47:16,334 --> 00:47:19,497 that so much sex and violence masquerading as entertainment 875 00:47:19,587 --> 00:47:22,921 has been easily and readily available to so many people. 876 00:47:23,299 --> 00:47:24,299 Never. 877 00:47:24,759 --> 00:47:27,922 We do have a responsibility to assess the impact of your work 878 00:47:28,554 --> 00:47:30,670 and to understand the damage that comes 879 00:47:30,765 --> 00:47:34,383 from the incessant, repetitive, mindless violence 880 00:47:34,477 --> 00:47:38,971 and irresponsible conduct that permeates our media all the time. 881 00:47:39,815 --> 00:47:41,126 [BOB DOLE] A line has been crossed. 882 00:47:41,150 --> 00:47:44,939 Not just of taste, but of human dignity and decency. 883 00:47:45,029 --> 00:47:48,818 You don't have to degrade our women. 884 00:47:49,033 --> 00:47:52,651 To kill people, to disrespect each other, well, it's not all right. 885 00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:54,861 Those who pay them have a responsibility. 886 00:47:54,955 --> 00:47:58,573 The corporate executives who hide behind the lofty language of free speech 887 00:47:58,667 --> 00:47:59,782 should understand this, 888 00:47:59,877 --> 00:48:03,711 we will name their names and shame them as they deserve to be shamed. 889 00:48:03,798 --> 00:48:04,858 - Time Warner. - Time Warner. 890 00:48:04,882 --> 00:48:06,026 [MAN] Time Warner's the biggest. 891 00:48:06,050 --> 00:48:08,007 Time Warner owns a company called lnterscope. 892 00:48:08,177 --> 00:48:10,384 The Death Row lnterscope coup. 893 00:48:10,471 --> 00:48:11,990 [BOB DOLE] Which columnist John Leo called 894 00:48:12,014 --> 00:48:15,803 the cultural equivalent of owning half the world's mustard gas factories. 895 00:48:15,935 --> 00:48:19,473 To me, this music is the equivalent of yelling Fire in a crowded theater. 896 00:48:19,814 --> 00:48:23,057 The fire starts. Meanwhile, simultaneously... 897 00:48:23,150 --> 00:48:26,017 The media and entertainment industries are buzzing over what may become 898 00:48:26,112 --> 00:48:28,524 the third mega-media merger of the summer. 899 00:48:28,614 --> 00:48:31,572 The deal would create the biggest media company in the world. 900 00:48:31,659 --> 00:48:34,572 But both sides say there are still major issues to be worked out. 901 00:48:34,662 --> 00:48:37,120 Because of the proposed merger with Turner, 902 00:48:37,206 --> 00:48:40,995 Time Warner needs tremendous amounts of regulatory approval, 903 00:48:41,085 --> 00:48:43,747 and wanna be looked at with a great deal of favor. 904 00:48:44,088 --> 00:48:46,733 [JIMMY] Jerry Levin called me in his office in the height of the insanity. 905 00:48:46,757 --> 00:48:48,418 And Jerry was a very decent man. 906 00:48:48,509 --> 00:48:49,920 He was the CEO of Time Warner. 907 00:48:50,010 --> 00:48:53,878 He said, Jimmy, my son teaches with Tupac's lyrics in Harlem. 908 00:48:54,098 --> 00:48:56,465 I get it. He said, I got a problem. 909 00:48:56,559 --> 00:48:59,847 Dole has got the cable bill and I need his help. 910 00:48:59,937 --> 00:49:02,178 And I gotta sacrifice somethin'. 911 00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,024 So, I said, That sounds reasonable. But that's his problem. 912 00:49:06,110 --> 00:49:07,546 [MALE REPORTER] All this means continuing headaches 913 00:49:07,570 --> 00:49:10,688 for new Time Warner Music Group chairman, Michael Fuchs. 914 00:49:10,781 --> 00:49:15,400 I was coming into chaos. This is probably why I was given the job. 915 00:49:16,287 --> 00:49:19,200 The board was sick of what was goin' on. 916 00:49:19,540 --> 00:49:22,532 So, I was told, It's time to clean house. 917 00:49:23,794 --> 00:49:27,253 Maybe they thought I should be more respectful or something, you know. 918 00:49:27,339 --> 00:49:29,125 [JIMMY] We meet with Michael Fuchs. 919 00:49:29,216 --> 00:49:33,380 He says, The next six months, I'm gonna evaluate each and every one of you. 920 00:49:33,471 --> 00:49:34,711 And he points to me as well. 921 00:49:34,805 --> 00:49:37,046 And he goes, I'm the Michael Jordan of management. 922 00:49:37,975 --> 00:49:41,218 So, I look at Michael Fuchs and I said, But Michael, this is baseball. 923 00:49:41,562 --> 00:49:43,098 This guy went nuclear. 924 00:49:43,647 --> 00:49:46,685 JIM MORET: Time Warner's music division has been in turmoil for months. 925 00:49:47,026 --> 00:49:49,688 Heads have been rolling as the new boss cleans house 926 00:49:49,778 --> 00:49:53,146 while the company remains under attack from foes of gangsta rap music. 927 00:49:53,240 --> 00:49:56,699 Fuchs spent the summer ousting the rap label's defender, Doug Morris, 928 00:49:56,785 --> 00:49:58,776 from his chief executive post. 929 00:49:58,871 --> 00:50:00,487 Michael Fuchs just panicked. 930 00:50:00,581 --> 00:50:01,821 [FUCHS] I fired Doug. 931 00:50:01,916 --> 00:50:05,910 I felt there was a loyalty to the music industry, 932 00:50:06,003 --> 00:50:08,836 but not necessarily loyalty to the company. 933 00:50:09,089 --> 00:50:10,204 We were doin' great. 934 00:50:10,299 --> 00:50:14,509 And suddenly, we're out the window, goin' splat on the pavement. 935 00:50:14,595 --> 00:50:18,304 Not him. Me first. I hated the fact that it was me first. 936 00:50:18,599 --> 00:50:21,261 The music business is very tight. 937 00:50:21,852 --> 00:50:23,889 Tight like a pack of thieves, you know. 938 00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:27,894 You got some guys from Brooklyn in this war with all of these 939 00:50:27,983 --> 00:50:31,021 enormously powerful entities. 940 00:50:31,820 --> 00:50:35,154 And Time Warner's first instinct 941 00:50:35,241 --> 00:50:39,280 was to buy the whole thing and attempt to clean it up, 942 00:50:39,370 --> 00:50:42,453 Death Row Records, which was an absurdity. 943 00:50:56,845 --> 00:50:59,045 [JIMMY] I get a phone call at midnight from Suge Knight. 944 00:50:59,348 --> 00:51:02,306 And he says to me, Yo, who's the guy we hate at Time Warner? 945 00:51:02,434 --> 00:51:04,454 I said, Michael Fuchs. He goes, Yeah, that's him. 946 00:51:04,478 --> 00:51:08,142 They want me to meet him and Melba Moore and Dionne Warwick 947 00:51:08,232 --> 00:51:11,020 at Dionne's house tomorrow morning. 948 00:51:11,819 --> 00:51:14,561 I said, Where? Who? 949 00:51:15,281 --> 00:51:18,819 Melba Moore and Dionne Wan/vick and Michael Fuchs? 950 00:51:18,993 --> 00:51:19,993 Yeah. 951 00:51:20,077 --> 00:51:21,638 And they're gettin' the mayor of Compton to come. 952 00:51:21,662 --> 00:51:24,871 I'm like, What the fuck is this guy doing? 953 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,453 I was told to police the lyrics a little more. 954 00:51:29,211 --> 00:51:31,451 [JIMMY] Michael Fuchs wants to talk to me about a deal. 955 00:51:31,672 --> 00:51:34,539 [FUCHS] Dionne Warwick said, Fly out here. 956 00:51:34,633 --> 00:51:37,045 Suge's like my nephew. He lives in the neighborhood. 957 00:51:37,177 --> 00:51:39,669 He'll come over. You'll talk about things. 958 00:51:39,847 --> 00:51:44,842 I'm a partner of his. We own the label as much as he does. 959 00:51:45,227 --> 00:51:48,845 For him to fly out and meet with one of our major labels 960 00:51:48,939 --> 00:51:53,354 without calling us is unacceptable in any form of business. 961 00:51:53,652 --> 00:51:54,767 So, I call Suge. 962 00:51:54,862 --> 00:51:58,526 I said, Suge, meet me tomorrow morning at Jerry's Deli at 8:00. 963 00:51:59,033 --> 00:52:00,523 So, I go to Jerry's Deli. 964 00:52:00,618 --> 00:52:03,201 I meet Suge and David Kenner, Suge's lawyer. 965 00:52:03,871 --> 00:52:06,738 And I know that if Suge walks into that meeting, 966 00:52:06,832 --> 00:52:11,167 Michael Fuchs, he would do anything to either put Interscope outta business 967 00:52:11,253 --> 00:52:13,585 or get this thing done with these lyrics. 968 00:52:13,839 --> 00:52:16,831 So, Suge and I were gonna stay in that restaurant with David Kenner 969 00:52:16,925 --> 00:52:20,008 and just wait until Michael Fuchs left. 970 00:52:20,220 --> 00:52:22,211 Dionne kept tryin' to call Suge. 971 00:52:22,306 --> 00:52:23,491 [JIMMY] And Suge was incredible. 972 00:52:23,515 --> 00:52:26,223 So, every time Warwick would call and say, 973 00:52:26,393 --> 00:52:27,787 Hi, baby, when are you getting here? 974 00:52:27,811 --> 00:52:30,553 He would say, I'm down the street, and hang up. 975 00:52:30,689 --> 00:52:36,025 And he'd say, I'll take a chicken breast, Cheerios. And another hour passed. 976 00:52:36,737 --> 00:52:40,071 Hey, where are you? I'm almost there. I'm at the light. By 3:00... 977 00:52:40,282 --> 00:52:42,740 I realized Jimmy was hostile. 978 00:52:42,951 --> 00:52:46,410 [JIMMY] She says, Michael said if you guys want more money, it's cool. 979 00:52:46,747 --> 00:52:48,579 He goes, Yeah, I'm on my way. 980 00:52:49,041 --> 00:52:50,623 And he never goes. 981 00:52:50,709 --> 00:52:52,395 G RU BMAN: I don't even think it was just money. 982 00:52:52,419 --> 00:52:54,001 I think it's a matter of principle. 983 00:52:54,088 --> 00:52:56,204 By taking their money, he would've lost control. 984 00:52:56,298 --> 00:52:58,380 [JIMMY] By 5:00, Fuchs had to leave. 985 00:52:58,550 --> 00:53:00,587 Who had time for that? 986 00:53:00,844 --> 00:53:05,304 So, she calls up, You embarrassed me. What are you doing? I looked foolish. 987 00:53:05,391 --> 00:53:07,974 And Suge looks at the phone and goes, Hey, you're the psychic. 988 00:53:08,060 --> 00:53:09,846 How come you didn't know I wasn't comin'? 989 00:53:09,937 --> 00:53:10,937 And hangs up. 990 00:53:11,146 --> 00:53:13,262 [PHONE RINGING] 991 00:53:15,776 --> 00:53:16,937 Don't worry about this. 992 00:53:18,612 --> 00:53:19,852 [MAN] Over there. 993 00:53:19,947 --> 00:53:21,547 [FEMALE REPORTER] So, you're saying that 994 00:53:21,573 --> 00:53:24,440 Death Row does not present any negative images to black youth? 995 00:53:24,993 --> 00:53:26,734 No, I think it's a positive image. 996 00:53:27,121 --> 00:53:29,328 I think Death Row's real positive to black youth. 997 00:53:30,457 --> 00:53:32,789 I mean, it's lettin' people know that you can be yourself 998 00:53:32,876 --> 00:53:35,584 and still be a child of God and still be successful. 999 00:53:45,013 --> 00:53:47,300 [INDISTINCT RADIO CHATTER] 1000 00:53:52,688 --> 00:53:54,178 [DR. DRE] 1995. 1001 00:53:55,649 --> 00:53:59,017 It was such a transitional period for me. 1002 00:54:00,988 --> 00:54:03,980 When I was in jail, bein' isolated like that 1003 00:54:04,491 --> 00:54:08,200 and not havin' anything to do except think for five months, 1004 00:54:09,830 --> 00:54:13,915 it forced me to reflect and think about the people that were around me, 1005 00:54:14,001 --> 00:54:16,709 were they helpin' me? Were they friends or foes? 1006 00:54:19,757 --> 00:54:23,625 It also gave me the opportunity to realize 1007 00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,302 how much Nicole was in love with me 1008 00:54:26,388 --> 00:54:28,254 and how much I was in love with her. 1009 00:54:29,224 --> 00:54:32,933 Her visits were so important, because she didn't have to do that. 1010 00:54:33,020 --> 00:54:34,761 We'd just started datin'. 1011 00:54:34,855 --> 00:54:37,347 She could've said, Fuck you. You're in jail. 1012 00:54:38,192 --> 00:54:40,149 She was just there for me. 1013 00:54:49,286 --> 00:54:51,448 And then Eazy dies. 1014 00:54:51,538 --> 00:54:54,781 And, you know, me and him had been talkin' about gettin' together, 1015 00:54:54,875 --> 00:54:57,583 doin' music again, but... 1016 00:54:58,962 --> 00:55:03,707 I got to the hospital, and I saw Cube. 1017 00:55:03,801 --> 00:55:04,836 Me and him embrace. 1018 00:55:04,927 --> 00:55:08,136 We hadn't seen each other in a long time, you know, throughout all the bullshit. 1019 00:55:08,222 --> 00:55:10,304 We hadn't seen each other until that moment. 1020 00:55:10,724 --> 00:55:13,466 And I went up to see E. 1021 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:18,054 He was just la yin' there with this machine breathin' for him, this tube in his mouth- 1022 00:55:18,565 --> 00:55:21,648 And it was really fuckin' me up, man. 1023 00:55:21,735 --> 00:55:23,271 It tripped me out a little bit. 1024 00:55:23,362 --> 00:55:26,320 So, I reached over and said a couple of words to him, 1025 00:55:26,406 --> 00:55:28,363 spoke a few words in his ear, and... 1026 00:55:29,409 --> 00:55:33,073 That was that. I left. That was the last time I saw him. 1027 00:55:36,792 --> 00:55:39,409 You know, all these things happened around the same time. 1028 00:55:39,503 --> 00:55:41,523 And I would say it was probably in a month's period. 1029 00:55:41,547 --> 00:55:43,083 It was a lot to deal with. 1030 00:55:43,465 --> 00:55:46,708 And then we had the 1995 Source Awards. 1031 00:55:47,553 --> 00:55:48,714 That shit was crazy. 1032 00:55:49,638 --> 00:55:51,299 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1033 00:55:51,390 --> 00:55:55,349 ♪ It's the motherfuckin' D-R-E Dr. Dre, ♪ ♪ motherfucker ♪ 1034 00:55:56,311 --> 00:55:58,151 ♪ You know I'm mobbin' ♪ ♪ With the D-O-double-G ♪ 1035 00:55:58,188 --> 00:55:59,188 ♪ Say what? ♪ 1036 00:55:59,273 --> 00:56:01,073 ♪ Straight off the ♪ ♪ fuckin' streets of C-P-T ♪ 1037 00:56:01,275 --> 00:56:03,642 ♪ King of the beats. ♪ ♪ You ride to 'em in your Fleet ♪ 1038 00:56:03,735 --> 00:56:04,770 ♪ Fleetwood ♪ 1039 00:56:04,862 --> 00:56:06,256 ♪ Or Coupe De Ville rollin' on dubs ♪ 1040 00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,272 ♪ Now how you feelin' ♪ ♪ whoopty whoop Nigga what? ♪ 1041 00:56:09,366 --> 00:56:10,366 Okay, I'm good. 1042 00:56:10,868 --> 00:56:11,868 All right, cool. 1043 00:56:12,077 --> 00:56:15,390 [SNOOP DOGG] Twenty years ago, in this buildin' right here, is where it all took place. 1044 00:56:15,414 --> 00:56:17,267 [DR. DRE] Ihaven't been in this motherfucker since that day. 1045 00:56:17,291 --> 00:56:18,685 - [SNOOP DOGG] Are you serious? - Yeah. 1046 00:56:18,709 --> 00:56:22,122 You know, that's the same spot that Suge got up there and said that shit. 1047 00:56:22,212 --> 00:56:23,293 We were surrounded. 1048 00:56:23,380 --> 00:56:24,791 That guy. Oh, yeah, everything. 1049 00:56:25,966 --> 00:56:29,175 [NAS] When The Source Awards was comin' up, the whole city was excited. 1050 00:56:29,428 --> 00:56:32,420 This was our Grammys, Oscars. 1051 00:56:32,514 --> 00:56:35,302 If you don't make your name today, you don't exist. 1052 00:56:35,517 --> 00:56:37,428 [MUSIC PLAYING] 1053 00:56:38,145 --> 00:56:39,510 Yeah! 1054 00:56:40,063 --> 00:56:44,808 [NAS] At the time, Death Row was the biggest money-maker in rap, hands down. 1055 00:56:44,902 --> 00:56:46,108 ♪ Keep the hands raised! ♪ 1056 00:56:46,278 --> 00:56:48,736 Death Row, we had our section right here. 1057 00:56:48,822 --> 00:56:51,860 Fifteen Bloods, 15 Crips, associates and family members. 1058 00:56:51,992 --> 00:56:53,232 Fifty people total. 1059 00:56:53,327 --> 00:56:55,238 And then right here you had Queens, 1060 00:56:55,329 --> 00:56:58,697 Brooklyn on the side, Bronx behind us, New Jersey, Staten Island. 1061 00:56:58,790 --> 00:57:00,656 Every part of New York that you could imagine. 1062 00:57:01,168 --> 00:57:05,127 [DR. DRE] For me, it was the first time the East Coast is really embracin' 1063 00:57:05,213 --> 00:57:06,920 what we're doin' on the West Coast. 1064 00:57:07,591 --> 00:57:10,083 [NAS] You know, New Yorkers wasn't goin' platinum anymore, 1065 00:57:10,177 --> 00:57:13,340 because the generation before us fizzlin' out. 1066 00:57:13,472 --> 00:57:15,839 But Bad Boy and Puffy were comin' up. 1067 00:57:16,350 --> 00:57:20,594 They were about to be the next Death Row or bigger, 1068 00:57:20,687 --> 00:57:22,428 because Puff's a smart guy. 1069 00:57:22,522 --> 00:57:24,138 His ear is incredible. 1070 00:57:24,232 --> 00:57:26,872 [PUFFY] No... No phones allowed. I need you to pay attention to me. 1071 00:57:26,944 --> 00:57:29,732 [NAS] And he fine-tuned the business side more than anybody. 1072 00:57:30,322 --> 00:57:34,862 They need to see how meticulous I take this flyness. You know what I'm sayin'? 1073 00:57:35,327 --> 00:57:36,327 I'm from the East Coast. 1074 00:57:36,370 --> 00:57:37,405 New York, New York. 1075 00:57:37,496 --> 00:57:40,216 New York in this motherfucker, Harlem, New York, we up in this bitch. 1076 00:57:41,166 --> 00:57:44,625 Straight up Brooklyn in the house. Representin '. 1077 00:57:46,046 --> 00:57:50,040 The entire night, the room was electrified with tension. 1078 00:57:50,717 --> 00:57:52,583 Everybody knew there was gonna be some shit 1079 00:57:52,678 --> 00:57:55,261 between the boroughs comin' here to make a name. 1080 00:57:55,555 --> 00:57:59,344 The furthest thing from my mind was any beef with Death Row. 1081 00:58:01,186 --> 00:58:04,929 [DR. DRE] And then Suge Knight walks on stage 1082 00:58:05,023 --> 00:58:07,264 and says the most outrageous shit ever. 1083 00:58:07,901 --> 00:58:10,359 Just completely disrespects Puff. 1084 00:58:11,113 --> 00:58:12,945 [SUGE] The one other thing I'd like to say, 1085 00:58:13,031 --> 00:58:15,318 any artist out there wanna be an artist 1086 00:58:15,409 --> 00:58:16,945 and wanna stay a star 1087 00:58:17,035 --> 00:58:19,013 and don't wanna have to worry about the executive producer 1088 00:58:19,037 --> 00:58:21,825 tlyin' to be all in the videos, 1089 00:58:21,915 --> 00:58:25,874 all on the records, dancin', come to Death Row. 1090 00:58:26,086 --> 00:58:28,077 [AUDIENCE CHEERING] 1091 00:58:47,607 --> 00:58:49,598 I was like, Oh shit, he done fucked up. 1092 00:58:53,196 --> 00:58:58,441 For the spirit, we supporting him and clappin' 'cause he's with us. 1093 00:58:58,660 --> 00:59:00,196 Yay. 1094 00:59:01,747 --> 00:59:03,107 But then the nigga start to think, 1095 00:59:03,165 --> 00:59:05,202 Well, what the fuck did this nigga just say? 1096 00:59:05,292 --> 00:59:09,957 I thought it was gangsta that he would be in New York and say that. 1097 00:59:10,047 --> 00:59:14,006 So, for a few seconds, I was lovin' it, 1098 00:59:14,092 --> 00:59:15,892 because I was like, If we came here to rumble 1099 00:59:15,969 --> 00:59:18,085 let's turn this thing into a rumble. 1100 00:59:18,221 --> 00:59:21,430 That's the worst shit to do is to disrespect a nigga in his home turf. 1101 00:59:21,516 --> 00:59:22,910 He's talking about me in the videos. 1102 00:59:22,934 --> 00:59:24,390 I'm like, FUCK him- 1103 00:59:24,478 --> 00:59:29,097 [DR. DRE] In my opinion, it made all the New York niggas start comin' together. 1104 00:59:29,191 --> 00:59:30,793 [SNOOP DOGG] They loved us, but when that moment happened 1105 00:59:30,817 --> 00:59:33,525 they hated the shit out of us, just that quick. Like that. 1106 00:59:33,820 --> 00:59:35,402 It felt dangerous. 1107 00:59:35,906 --> 00:59:38,694 It felt like, This shit is dangerous right here. 1108 00:59:39,034 --> 00:59:41,696 [SNOOP DOGG] It wasjust a room full of pit bulls and gorillas. 1109 00:59:41,995 --> 00:59:44,236 This was niggas that was wild. It was animals. 1110 00:59:44,331 --> 00:59:45,331 You know what I'm sayin'? 1111 00:59:45,373 --> 00:59:46,408 Hyenas. 1112 00:59:46,500 --> 00:59:48,603 We had a bunch of niggas with us that was fresh outta the pen, 1113 00:59:48,627 --> 00:59:50,368 niggas with a lotta shit to prove. 1114 00:59:50,462 --> 00:59:52,874 You know, niggas that just love gettin' active. 1115 00:59:52,964 --> 00:59:55,752 [DR. DRE] And it's thousands of these niggas with guns and... 1116 00:59:55,842 --> 00:59:59,335 [NAS] Death Row had things on 'em, Bad Boy had things on 'em. 1117 00:59:59,429 --> 01:00:01,921 I'm pretty sure Wu-Tang was prepared. 1118 01:00:02,015 --> 01:00:04,973 That night I saw the headlines next day, 1119 01:00:05,060 --> 01:00:10,396 Stupid Source Awards gathers up stupid rappers, and they shot each other. 1120 01:00:11,817 --> 01:00:13,023 Rap is done. 1121 01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:14,896 A bloodbath. 1122 01:00:14,986 --> 01:00:16,442 Winner is... 1123 01:00:17,114 --> 01:00:19,856 Uh-oh, we're gonna have some trouble here, the D-R-E. 1124 01:00:20,951 --> 01:00:22,112 Dr. Dre. 1125 01:00:22,202 --> 01:00:25,035 [NAS] Then when Snoop got on stage bandanna'd up, braids, 1126 01:00:25,122 --> 01:00:27,284 it looked like he came for war. 1127 01:00:27,374 --> 01:00:30,958 Wait, wait, wait, the East Coast don't love Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg? 1128 01:00:32,295 --> 01:00:36,710 The East Coast ain't got no love for Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg and Death Row? 1129 01:00:37,008 --> 01:00:38,043 Y'all don't love us? 1130 01:00:39,261 --> 01:00:40,547 Y'all don't love us? 1131 01:00:41,054 --> 01:00:43,921 So, I'm like, ls he getting ready to say, 'Fuck New York'? 1132 01:00:44,516 --> 01:00:46,452 Well, let it be known, then, we don't give a fuck. 1133 01:00:46,476 --> 01:00:47,807 We know y'all East Coast. 1134 01:00:47,894 --> 01:00:49,305 We know where the fuck we at. 1135 01:00:49,396 --> 01:00:51,076 The East Coast in the motherfucking house. 1136 01:00:54,192 --> 01:00:56,354 [SNOOP DOGG] You match aggression with aggression. 1137 01:00:56,444 --> 01:01:00,187 But you match aggression with aggression with love, with asking. 1138 01:01:00,282 --> 01:01:03,445 [NAS] Snoop had the power right there to make it go either way. 1139 01:01:03,577 --> 01:01:07,070 And nigga said, You know what, for the sake of what that nigga just said, 1140 01:01:07,581 --> 01:01:09,868 we're gonna let y'all walk up outta here. 1141 01:01:09,958 --> 01:01:12,541 But, nigga, y'all better hurry up and get the fuck outta here. 1142 01:01:16,590 --> 01:01:18,710 [JIMMY] So, when all this stuff is going on in Warner, 1143 01:01:19,426 --> 01:01:24,717 this sort of war begins between Bad Boy and Death Row. 1144 01:01:24,806 --> 01:01:28,640 And that's when we all realized, Whoa, we're not in Kansas anymore. 1145 01:01:36,234 --> 01:01:38,350 [NAS] The Source Awards changed everything. 1146 01:01:38,445 --> 01:01:41,483 Now, you realized where your power was. 1147 01:01:41,573 --> 01:01:46,067 There was no limits to where a CEO or a mogul can wind up. 1148 01:01:46,161 --> 01:01:49,495 So, now, it becomes more serious at the top. 1149 01:01:49,581 --> 01:01:51,822 ♪ When the la-Ia hits ya ♪ ♪ lyrics just splits ya ♪ 1150 01:01:51,958 --> 01:01:54,199 ♪ Head so hard, ♪ ♪ that your hat can't fit you ♪ 1151 01:01:54,294 --> 01:01:56,501 ♪ Either I'm with ya or against ya ♪ 1152 01:01:57,172 --> 01:02:00,460 [SNOOP DOGG] The dialogue at Death Row now becomes 1153 01:02:00,550 --> 01:02:04,009 Suge is more vocal for what's being said than what's being done. 1154 01:02:04,095 --> 01:02:07,213 And Dr. Dre don't work under nobody's schedule or demands. 1155 01:02:07,307 --> 01:02:08,763 Same shit, different toilet. 1156 01:02:09,017 --> 01:02:11,224 [STEVE] I was in the trenches with Suge. 1157 01:02:11,311 --> 01:02:15,555 A lot of my stuff was around what was Dre gonna focus on? 1158 01:02:15,649 --> 01:02:18,311 Was Dre gonna work? What's he workin' on? 1159 01:02:18,401 --> 01:02:20,733 [JIMMY] 'Cause Dre wasn't any faster then, than he is now. 1160 01:02:20,820 --> 01:02:24,404 But when Suge told me he and Tupac wanted to get together, 1161 01:02:24,491 --> 01:02:27,199 what I thought of is, Dre and Pac. 1162 01:02:29,079 --> 01:02:30,615 Tupac's in prison. 1163 01:02:34,501 --> 01:02:37,084 [MALE REPORTER] Tupac, since your period of incarceration 1164 01:02:37,170 --> 01:02:38,535 in Clinton Correctional Facility, 1165 01:02:39,839 --> 01:02:43,082 have you taken the time to reflect on your gangster thug image? 1166 01:02:43,343 --> 01:02:45,209 [CHUCKLES] 1167 01:02:47,430 --> 01:02:51,549 Um, I don't see it as me havin' this gangster thug image. 1168 01:02:51,977 --> 01:02:55,470 Um... Thug life would be more accurate. 1169 01:02:56,564 --> 01:02:59,397 But it's not an image, it's just a way of life. It's a mentality. 1170 01:02:59,484 --> 01:03:01,270 I don't feel like what I did was so evil. 1171 01:03:01,361 --> 01:03:04,695 I just feel like what... The way I was livin' and my mentality 1172 01:03:04,781 --> 01:03:07,364 was a part of my progression to be a man. 1173 01:03:09,202 --> 01:03:10,784 [NAS] Pac was a different beast. 1174 01:03:10,870 --> 01:03:14,158 A lot of rappers like to claim they're Pac 'cause they thugs. 1175 01:03:14,249 --> 01:03:15,956 That's not Pac. 1176 01:03:16,042 --> 01:03:17,123 No doubt. 1177 01:03:17,210 --> 01:03:20,419 You know, this is a guy who saw a black person 1178 01:03:20,505 --> 01:03:23,668 bein' harassed by police officers and shot 'em. 1179 01:03:24,009 --> 01:03:27,218 You're not Pac until you're fightin' with killers. 1180 01:03:27,971 --> 01:03:32,090 [WHALLEY] But that was a moment in time where Tupac had fear in him. 1181 01:03:32,183 --> 01:03:35,972 Here's a young man accused of things he didn't do and put in jail. 1182 01:03:36,062 --> 01:03:38,269 And he didn't know who to trust anymore. 1183 01:03:38,356 --> 01:03:40,643 And somehow or another, he found that in Suge. 1184 01:03:41,901 --> 01:03:46,065 [JIMMY] Time Warner wouldn't allow us to bail out Tupac. 1185 01:03:46,823 --> 01:03:48,860 So, what happened was, 1186 01:03:48,950 --> 01:03:52,944 we advanced Death Row the money and Death Row bailed out Tupac. 1187 01:03:55,415 --> 01:03:57,952 [COHEN] I imagine that Pac himself believed Suge bailed him out. 1188 01:03:58,043 --> 01:04:01,832 But the truth is, we and Time Warner put up the money. I mean, look... 1189 01:04:03,256 --> 01:04:06,590 I was definitely part of bailing out Tupac. 1190 01:04:07,260 --> 01:04:10,924 ♪ California love ♪ 1191 01:04:12,015 --> 01:04:14,177 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 1192 01:04:18,813 --> 01:04:21,020 [INDISTINCT SHOUTING] 1193 01:04:24,569 --> 01:04:26,230 [STEVE] Now, you got Tupac, 1194 01:04:27,447 --> 01:04:30,439 part of that Death Row fuckin' volcano. 1195 01:04:32,535 --> 01:04:34,388 And they played California Love for the first time. 1196 01:04:34,412 --> 01:04:37,700 [TU PAC] A song with Tupac, Dre, and Roger Troutman? 1197 01:04:37,791 --> 01:04:41,000 Holy fuck. Start manufacturing, start shippin'. 1198 01:04:42,420 --> 01:04:43,856 [TU PAC] Come on, y'all, that's worth your money. 1199 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,791 [STEVE] Guys, you just made my job easy. 1200 01:04:46,216 --> 01:04:47,251 California, get up! 1201 01:04:47,634 --> 01:04:49,394 [STEVE] You know an eruption 's gonna happen. 1202 01:04:51,971 --> 01:04:54,508 ♪ Out on bail fresh outta jail ♪ ♪ California dreaming ♪ 1203 01:04:54,641 --> 01:04:57,286 ♪ Soon as I stepped on the scene ♪ ♪ I'm hearing hoochies screaming ♪ 1204 01:04:57,310 --> 01:04:58,766 ♪ Fiending for money and alcohol ♪ 1205 01:04:58,853 --> 01:05:02,312 ♪ The life of a Westside player ♪ ♪ Where cowards die and the strong ball ♪ 1206 01:05:02,482 --> 01:05:05,190 ♪ Only in Cali where we riot ♪ ♪ Not rally to live and die ♪ 1207 01:05:05,276 --> 01:05:06,754 ♪ In LA, we wearing Chucks not Ballies ♪ 1208 01:05:06,778 --> 01:05:07,778 ♪ That's right ♪ 1209 01:05:07,821 --> 01:05:10,529 ♪ Dressed in Locs and khaki suits ♪ ♪ And ride is what we do ♪ 1210 01:05:10,657 --> 01:05:13,240 ♪ Flossing, but have caution ♪ ♪ We collide with other crews ♪ 1211 01:05:13,326 --> 01:05:14,532 ♪ Famous because we program ♪ 1212 01:05:14,619 --> 01:05:17,486 When Tupac came into the studio, he just stayed in the booth, 1213 01:05:17,580 --> 01:05:20,572 wrote the song, laid the song, put up another track. 1214 01:05:20,667 --> 01:05:21,748 That was amazing. 1215 01:05:21,835 --> 01:05:24,623 He would just write about five or six songs before he comes out. 1216 01:05:24,838 --> 01:05:26,148 ♪ But give me that bomb beat from Dre ♪ 1217 01:05:26,172 --> 01:05:28,209 ♪ Let me serenade the streets of LA ♪ 1218 01:05:28,299 --> 01:05:31,883 ♪ From Oakland to Sac-town ♪ ♪ The Bay Area and back down ♪ 1219 01:05:31,970 --> 01:05:33,650 ♪ Cali is where they put their mack down ♪ 1220 01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:34,715 ♪ Give me love! ♪ 1221 01:05:34,806 --> 01:05:36,992 [SNOOP DOGG] Pac was like, Fuck that. I'm on it. Right now. 1222 01:05:37,016 --> 01:05:39,474 California Love, whoopty whoop, do the video. 1223 01:05:39,561 --> 01:05:41,330 Nigga, you've probably never even seen Mad Max. 1224 01:05:41,354 --> 01:05:43,641 Come on, put the suit on, nigga, let's go. 1225 01:05:43,731 --> 01:05:46,814 And Dre was great at takin' Tupac's built-up frustration 1226 01:05:46,901 --> 01:05:48,642 and makin' that shit sound fuckin' awesome. 1227 01:05:48,736 --> 01:05:50,131 [JIMMY] I said, Dre, you nailed it. 1228 01:05:50,155 --> 01:05:53,068 You heard Dre take just another step in production. 1229 01:05:53,158 --> 01:05:55,775 Next year, Death Row gonna start printin' our own money. 1230 01:05:56,327 --> 01:05:58,113 'Cause we making so much we need... 1231 01:05:58,204 --> 01:06:00,366 [JIMMY] But as success builds, as visibility builds, 1232 01:06:00,457 --> 01:06:03,540 as fame builds, people react differently. 1233 01:06:03,918 --> 01:06:05,704 [DR. DRE] Tupac, I did not see it coming. 1234 01:06:06,754 --> 01:06:11,715 [JIMMY] When Pac and Suge got together, it created a very volatile situation- 1235 01:06:12,385 --> 01:06:14,065 They were gonna do what they were gonna do. 1236 01:06:14,262 --> 01:06:15,468 And we couldn't control that. 1237 01:06:15,555 --> 01:06:17,592 I just wanna send a shout-out to Bad Boy Records. 1238 01:06:17,682 --> 01:06:20,362 [JIMMY] It became about somethin' that none of us really understood. 1239 01:06:20,393 --> 01:06:21,554 It became a street war. 1240 01:06:21,644 --> 01:06:24,081 [TU PAC] We're comin' to overthrow the government y'all got right now 1241 01:06:24,105 --> 01:06:26,346 which is Bad Boy and Nas and all that bullshit. 1242 01:06:26,441 --> 01:06:30,184 And we will bring a new government here that will feed every person in New York. 1243 01:06:31,070 --> 01:06:32,606 [INDISTINCT CHATTER] 1244 01:06:33,072 --> 01:06:34,592 [SNOOP DOGG] Now, Tupac was my friend. 1245 01:06:34,866 --> 01:06:37,779 So, I had no problem with pla yin' my role, you know. 1246 01:06:37,994 --> 01:06:39,472 Nigga, you need to wear suits, nigga. 1247 01:06:39,496 --> 01:06:42,113 Hugo Boss, nigga. Jewelry. Do this, do that. 1248 01:06:42,207 --> 01:06:43,487 Nigga, la what your hair down. 1249 01:06:43,833 --> 01:06:48,578 But once he started badmouthin' Dre, I'm feelin' like that's comin' from Suge. 1250 01:06:49,130 --> 01:06:51,371 But still comin' outta Pads mouth. 1251 01:06:52,300 --> 01:06:53,961 I kinda pushed away from him. 1252 01:06:54,052 --> 01:06:56,259 D.O.C.: I don't think Suge ever understood 1253 01:06:56,930 --> 01:07:01,219 that the power behind everything great that was happenin' was Dre. 1254 01:07:02,435 --> 01:07:05,268 [DR. DRE] I wanted to leave. I wanted to leave Death Row 1255 01:07:05,355 --> 01:07:07,437 and everything that was accumulated. 1256 01:07:08,191 --> 01:07:10,774 PETER: I was going, Dre, this label's worth a lotta money. 1257 01:07:10,944 --> 01:07:13,777 You should get paid for it. You own half the label. He goes, No. 1258 01:07:13,863 --> 01:07:15,424 [DR. DRE] I didn't want anything followin' me. 1259 01:07:15,448 --> 01:07:17,189 PATERNO: I'm done. I'm done. 1260 01:07:17,283 --> 01:07:18,694 [JIMMY] So, Icalled Dre. 1261 01:07:18,785 --> 01:07:22,153 I said, Don't break up The Beatles. You keep the band together. You know? 1262 01:07:22,830 --> 01:07:25,697 And he said, No, I can't do it. There's nothin' I can do about it. 1263 01:07:25,792 --> 01:07:27,453 [DR. DRE] Everything just changed. 1264 01:07:27,544 --> 01:07:29,876 It became a lot more violent. You know? 1265 01:07:29,963 --> 01:07:33,456 Engineers gettin' beat down, just random people gettin' beat down 1266 01:07:33,550 --> 01:07:36,463 and shot at in the studio, in the mic booth. 1267 01:07:37,053 --> 01:07:40,216 All kinda shit that I was just against. 1268 01:07:40,306 --> 01:07:41,637 REPORTER: You saw some of this? 1269 01:07:42,976 --> 01:07:44,341 I'm not sayin' that on camera. 1270 01:07:45,144 --> 01:07:47,206 [SNOOP DOGG] There was always incidents that are secret 1271 01:07:47,230 --> 01:07:48,812 and that we will never speak on. 1272 01:07:49,524 --> 01:07:51,731 D.O.C.: Power, control, celebrity. 1273 01:07:52,151 --> 01:07:54,734 It'll fuck anybody. Anybody. 1274 01:07:55,154 --> 01:07:57,316 And it happened to Death Row. 1275 01:07:58,783 --> 01:08:01,070 There's a story nobody knows about, 1276 01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:04,573 'cause they brought this person into my office, of all places. 1277 01:08:04,664 --> 01:08:08,248 And the beating that they commenced to put on that dude... 1278 01:08:08,334 --> 01:08:11,622 There was blood everywhere, and the dude is pullin' on my pants leg. 1279 01:08:12,338 --> 01:08:13,828 You know, I just wanted to get out. 1280 01:08:13,923 --> 01:08:15,523 [SNOOP DOGG] No, nigga, you can't leave. 1281 01:08:15,592 --> 01:08:18,175 And if you do leave, nigga, you gonna leave in a box. 1282 01:08:19,804 --> 01:08:21,135 REPORTER: That was Death ROW? 1283 01:08:21,222 --> 01:08:22,678 That's Death Row. 1284 01:08:25,018 --> 01:08:30,639 [JIMMY] I said, You know, gangstas spend their whole life trying to become legitimate. 1285 01:08:30,732 --> 01:08:33,975 You guys are earning tens of millions of dollars legitimately. 1286 01:08:34,068 --> 01:08:37,026 Why get involved with any of this nonsense? 1287 01:08:37,155 --> 01:08:39,487 I mean, look... 1288 01:08:40,116 --> 01:08:43,575 At one moment, I said to my ex-wife, I said, 1289 01:08:44,287 --> 01:08:48,076 Am I defending free speech or am I funding Hamas? 1290 01:08:48,291 --> 01:08:49,827 I was so confused. 1291 01:08:50,001 --> 01:08:53,335 It was so intense and... 1292 01:08:53,713 --> 01:08:58,082 I was on a new page I'd never seen in my life before, every day. 1293 01:08:58,176 --> 01:09:02,135 You know, on the news, every time we're watching TV, somethin' would come on. 1294 01:09:02,221 --> 01:09:05,964 This thing happened, you know, this guy got killed or shot, 1295 01:09:06,059 --> 01:09:10,098 or, you know, and there was always a reason for it. 1296 01:09:10,188 --> 01:09:12,429 And I don't know if I just... I don't know what I did. 1297 01:09:12,523 --> 01:09:16,733 I was on a mission. I was on a very, very intense mission. 1298 01:09:17,111 --> 01:09:20,231 [FEMALE REPORTER] What do you feel when you hear a record like Tupac's new one? 1299 01:09:20,573 --> 01:09:21,938 [MAN] I love Tupac's new record. 1300 01:09:22,033 --> 01:09:23,302 [FEMALE REPORTER] Right. But don't you feel 1301 01:09:23,326 --> 01:09:26,864 like that creates tension between East and West? 1302 01:09:27,163 --> 01:09:30,781 He's talking about killing people. I had sex with your wife. 1303 01:09:30,875 --> 01:09:32,491 And not in those words. 1304 01:09:33,086 --> 01:09:38,252 ♪ Oh, I'll give you all the love ♪ 1305 01:09:38,341 --> 01:09:40,799 I want in return, sweet darling 1306 01:09:40,885 --> 01:09:43,673 GRUBMAN: I am sitting in the south of France, 1307 01:09:43,763 --> 01:09:47,552 having a wonderful time, baking my body. 1308 01:09:49,143 --> 01:09:52,681 And then somebody comes over to me and says, You have a phone call. 1309 01:09:52,772 --> 01:09:54,012 And it's from Jimmy Lovine. 1310 01:09:55,775 --> 01:09:59,018 Allen, listen, we're gonna have a meeting over at Warner's 1311 01:09:59,112 --> 01:10:01,274 with everything that's happening. 1312 01:10:01,364 --> 01:10:04,231 That was his signal to tell me to get my ass back. 1313 01:10:04,826 --> 01:10:06,817 Thank God for the Concorde. 1314 01:10:08,287 --> 01:10:11,029 I take off at 10:30. I'm in New York at 9:30. 1315 01:10:11,124 --> 01:10:15,368 [JIMMY] So, Ted, Allen and Skip Brittenham go over, have the meeting at 9:30. 1316 01:10:15,461 --> 01:10:17,372 And, you know, I'm banned. Right? 1317 01:10:17,463 --> 01:10:19,625 We'll have the meeting. But he can't come. 1318 01:10:19,716 --> 01:10:24,051 They thought that they could manage Ted Fields and the lawyer. 1319 01:10:24,637 --> 01:10:28,722 [JIMMY] Ted's staying at the Four Seasons. I'm at the St. Regis with David Cohen. 1320 01:10:28,808 --> 01:10:31,721 They call us up at 10:30 and Ted says, We got great news. 1321 01:10:31,811 --> 01:10:37,181 Warner's proposed to buy our share of the company for $150 million. 1322 01:10:37,775 --> 01:10:39,641 And I'm ecstatic. 1323 01:10:39,986 --> 01:10:42,819 I hang up the phone. And I run there. 1324 01:10:44,866 --> 01:10:48,154 We go upstairs and I say, What did you say? 1325 01:10:48,244 --> 01:10:52,112 Allen said, Shut up. We all... They gave us $150 million. 1326 01:10:52,206 --> 01:10:55,324 We get rid of Death Row. Nobody likes that music anyway. 1327 01:10:55,418 --> 01:10:57,625 Jimmy says, No way, we're not doing that. 1328 01:10:57,712 --> 01:10:59,606 Allen says, You idiot. You're gonna get all this money. 1329 01:10:59,630 --> 01:11:01,587 $150 million. 1330 01:11:01,674 --> 01:11:03,554 - We can't do it. We're out. - Are you nuts? 1331 01:11:03,676 --> 01:11:05,417 - [JIMMY] Fuck that. - Are you crazy? 1332 01:11:05,511 --> 01:11:07,422 [JIMMY] I've never been so sure. 1333 01:11:07,638 --> 01:11:10,050 - Are you fucking crazy? - No. No. No. 1334 01:11:10,308 --> 01:11:11,469 We didn't do it. 1335 01:11:11,559 --> 01:11:15,427 [COHEN] Jimmy, against the advice of his attorneys, had the courage to say, 1336 01:11:15,521 --> 01:11:18,388 No, I'm gonna ride with Death Row. This is what we do. 1337 01:11:18,691 --> 01:11:20,773 GRUBMAN: So, then Time Warner decides 1338 01:11:20,860 --> 01:11:23,477 that they have gotta sell their share to us. 1339 01:11:23,571 --> 01:11:25,187 So, everything's good. We're happy. 1340 01:11:25,281 --> 01:11:26,925 [JIMMY] Meanwhile, every time I'd call Geffen, 1341 01:11:26,949 --> 01:11:30,283 he would say, You can't be this lucky to get your company back. 1342 01:11:30,369 --> 01:11:33,862 I did say that. I said, Jimmy, this is the greatest thing that ever happened to you. 1343 01:11:33,956 --> 01:11:35,867 GRUBMAN: 'Cause Doug now, by the way, 1344 01:11:35,958 --> 01:11:38,541 is no longer at Warner's. He's at MCA. 1345 01:11:39,128 --> 01:11:42,371 [JIMMY] And him, Geffen and Edgar Bronfman took our company in. 1346 01:11:42,465 --> 01:11:45,253 We bought it again. We bought lnterscope. 1347 01:11:45,384 --> 01:11:47,295 GRUBMAN: This was a defining moment. 1348 01:11:47,386 --> 01:11:50,720 And people lost, which was the Warner side. 1349 01:11:50,807 --> 01:11:55,472 And people won, which was the Interscope and MCA side. 1350 01:11:55,561 --> 01:11:57,097 [DOUG] The success was remarkable. 1351 01:11:57,188 --> 01:12:01,933 At one point, Interscope was responsible for the top four albums in Billboard. 1352 01:12:03,069 --> 01:12:08,906 [GWEN] He predicted it. Literally, six years on the dot from when Jimmy came up to me, 1353 01:12:09,700 --> 01:12:12,237 Don't Speak was number one around the world. 1354 01:12:12,328 --> 01:12:14,069 And I was a huge star. 1355 01:12:15,081 --> 01:12:17,072 Everyone did great but me. 1356 01:12:17,416 --> 01:12:20,499 ♪ Don't speak ♪ ♪ I know just what you're sayin' ♪ 1357 01:12:20,586 --> 01:12:24,420 [FUCHS] But when you think back, what was the reason to be upset? 1358 01:12:24,882 --> 01:12:28,295 ♪ Don't tell me 'cause it hurts ♪ 1359 01:12:29,053 --> 01:12:32,091 - Doug, how you doin'? Yeah. - Hello? 1360 01:12:32,181 --> 01:12:36,516 It's crazy, right? It's gonna get worse. I don't know what the hell's going on. 1361 01:12:36,936 --> 01:12:39,143 [INDISTINCT CHATTER ON PHONE] 1362 01:12:41,399 --> 01:12:45,643 STEVIE: I remember being at Jimmy's house, in the house he's in now, 1363 01:12:45,736 --> 01:12:48,774 for something after some Grammys or something. 1364 01:12:48,865 --> 01:12:52,654 And he was supposed to go to this thing, but he didn't go. 1365 01:12:52,743 --> 01:12:54,199 And there was a stabbing. 1366 01:12:54,287 --> 01:13:00,408 And I remember his oldest son saying, Dad, you better start to be careful now. 1367 01:13:00,501 --> 01:13:02,913 Because somebody's gonna blow your head off. 1368 01:13:03,421 --> 01:13:06,038 And at that point I'm like, This is really too serious now. 1369 01:13:06,132 --> 01:13:08,965 It was deadly serious 1370 01:13:09,135 --> 01:13:12,218 with Death Row and death threats. 1371 01:13:12,305 --> 01:13:16,299 I felt like it was getting too dangerous for Jimmy, his family and me. 1372 01:13:16,392 --> 01:13:19,726 Because one night he called me and he said, I want you go to a premiere with me. 1373 01:13:19,812 --> 01:13:22,053 So, I go over and we started to get in the car 1374 01:13:22,148 --> 01:13:25,607 and he said, Okay, you guys better put these on now. 1375 01:13:26,110 --> 01:13:30,274 I said, Put what on? We had to wear a bulletproof vest at a premiere. 1376 01:13:30,364 --> 01:13:33,902 And I've made a lot of movies and I was head of a studio. 1377 01:13:33,993 --> 01:13:36,234 I'd been to many, many premieres. 1378 01:13:36,329 --> 01:13:39,412 But I've never worn a bulletproof vest going down a red carpet. 1379 01:13:39,498 --> 01:13:41,034 That's Jimmy. 1380 01:13:41,125 --> 01:13:46,495 [BONO] And I said, You're making music. This is... Wow. How'd it get to this? 1381 01:13:46,923 --> 01:13:48,817 [STEVE] I remember riding in the car with Suge once. 1382 01:13:48,841 --> 01:13:54,803 And Jimmy had invested hundreds of hours into the human being, to really help him. 1383 01:13:55,389 --> 01:13:59,508 I said, Jimmy has given so much of himself to you. 1384 01:14:01,854 --> 01:14:05,188 Why is it going to the place it's going? 1385 01:14:06,567 --> 01:14:09,059 And Suge said, It's what I know. 1386 01:14:09,153 --> 01:14:12,646 [TU PAC] Hey yo, I got some new shit for y'all tonight. 1387 01:14:12,740 --> 01:14:16,404 [NAS] It was, like, Forget how y'all knew rap before. This is a new day. 1388 01:14:16,661 --> 01:14:17,776 Oh, yes. 1389 01:14:17,870 --> 01:14:19,235 Let's go all the way. 1390 01:14:19,330 --> 01:14:21,367 [TU PAC] See, it's this nigga named Nas. 1391 01:14:21,457 --> 01:14:23,789 And he kicking with these niggas named Mobb Deep. 1392 01:14:24,543 --> 01:14:27,331 And they kickin' with some niggas named Bad Boy. 1393 01:14:27,421 --> 01:14:29,741 [NAS] Fear is a good thing 'cause it can keep you in check. 1394 01:14:29,799 --> 01:14:31,631 But I say fuck 'em all. 1395 01:14:31,717 --> 01:14:35,255 You cross lines that, you just knew it, somebody's gonna get hurt. 1396 01:14:35,346 --> 01:14:38,930 So, I'm about to take this nigga beat and whoop his ass 1397 01:14:39,016 --> 01:14:40,882 with his own motherfucking beat. 1398 01:14:44,105 --> 01:14:47,598 1996, everything came together that same year. 1399 01:14:48,401 --> 01:14:50,170 ♪ Menacin' methods ♪ ♪ label me a lethal weapon ♪ 1400 01:14:50,194 --> 01:14:51,194 ♪ Making niggas die ♪ 1401 01:14:51,278 --> 01:14:52,881 ♪ Die witnessin' breathless imperfections ♪ 1402 01:14:52,905 --> 01:14:56,068 ♪ Can you picture my specific plan ♪ ♪ To be the man in this wicked land ♪ 1403 01:14:56,158 --> 01:14:59,867 ♪ Underhanded hits are planned ♪ ♪ Scams are plotted over grams of rock ♪ 1404 01:15:00,037 --> 01:15:03,496 ♪ Undercover agents die by the random shots ♪ ♪ We all die in the end ♪ 1405 01:15:03,582 --> 01:15:06,244 [STEVE] Tupac was two different people Iivin' in the same body. 1406 01:15:07,586 --> 01:15:11,124 This was one of the greatest poets of a generation. 1407 01:15:11,215 --> 01:15:16,710 Totally gracious, totally engaged. But you saw the fuel of what was driving him. 1408 01:15:16,804 --> 01:15:18,010 He was almost manic. 1409 01:15:18,097 --> 01:15:19,574 ♪ How can I show 'em how I feel inside? ♪ 1410 01:15:19,598 --> 01:15:21,839 ♪ We outlaws motherfuckers ♪ ♪ Can't kill my pride ♪ 1411 01:15:21,934 --> 01:15:25,222 [WHALLEY] What made him great is that he was highly emotional. 1412 01:15:25,312 --> 01:15:27,599 But he's just lashing out. 1413 01:15:27,732 --> 01:15:31,691 ♪ Niggas shot me five times? ♪ ♪ I came out of jail and sold five million ♪ 1414 01:15:31,777 --> 01:15:33,267 ♪ The niggas can't fuck with us ♪ 1415 01:15:33,446 --> 01:15:34,965 [WHALLEY] I could only interpret it as that 1416 01:15:34,989 --> 01:15:36,821 he was trying to figure out who the enemy was. 1417 01:15:38,993 --> 01:15:41,610 [PUFFY] We never got into dislikin' any of the artists, 1418 01:15:41,704 --> 01:15:46,665 but we had a problem with Suge really disrupting our quality of life. 1419 01:15:46,751 --> 01:15:49,960 ♪ Westside was the war cry. ♪ ♪ Bustin' all freely screaming fuck ♪ 1420 01:15:50,254 --> 01:15:53,667 ♪ All y'all niggas in Swahili. ♪ ♪ Pistol packin' fresh out of jail ♪ 1421 01:15:54,633 --> 01:15:56,590 It was just very sad. 1422 01:15:58,387 --> 01:15:59,548 See, I can't answer. 1423 01:15:59,638 --> 01:16:01,950 This is that slippery slope for me, you know what I'm sayin'? 1424 01:16:01,974 --> 01:16:03,785 ♪ Send me to hell. ♪ ♪ 'Cause I ain't beggin' for my life ♪ 1425 01:16:03,809 --> 01:16:06,392 ♪ Ain't nothing worse. ♪ ♪ Than this cursed-ass hopeless life ♪ 1426 01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:07,479 ♪ I'm troublesome ♪ 1427 01:16:07,855 --> 01:16:13,976 [ANNOUNCER] And now ladies and gentlemen in attendance, it's showtime. 1428 01:16:16,489 --> 01:16:19,447 [JIMMY] I remember them going to the fights in Vegas. 1429 01:16:19,533 --> 01:16:21,470 And I always thought that was dangerous, you know? 1430 01:16:21,494 --> 01:16:23,986 And they went to the fight that night. 1431 01:16:26,415 --> 01:16:28,031 [YELLING] 1432 01:16:28,334 --> 01:16:31,326 ♪ La la la la, la, la. La, la-Ia la, la ♪ 1433 01:16:31,962 --> 01:16:33,578 [JIMMY] There was this fight. 1434 01:16:33,881 --> 01:16:35,622 ♪ All you niggas die ♪ 1435 01:16:36,175 --> 01:16:39,418 ♪ La la la la, la, la. La, la-Ia la, la ♪ 1436 01:16:39,887 --> 01:16:41,753 [JIMMY] It's on video. 1437 01:16:42,014 --> 01:16:44,802 ♪ Bye-bye, bye-bye. All you niggas die ♪ 1438 01:16:44,892 --> 01:16:46,508 [JIMMY] Everyone has seen it. 1439 01:16:46,602 --> 01:16:50,140 ♪ La la la la, la, la. La, la-Ia la, la ♪ 1440 01:16:50,231 --> 01:16:53,314 [JIMMY] And next thing you know... 1441 01:16:53,567 --> 01:16:55,399 ♪ All you niggas die ♪ 1442 01:16:55,694 --> 01:16:58,607 [GUNSHOTS AND GLASS SHATTERING] 1443 01:17:00,157 --> 01:17:02,068 [TIRES SCREECHING] 1444 01:17:02,201 --> 01:17:04,738 ♪ Bye-bye, bye-bye. All you niggas die ♪ 1445 01:17:16,632 --> 01:17:21,217 [SNOOP DOGG] I was in LA Me and Pac wasn't seeing eye to eye. 1446 01:17:21,637 --> 01:17:26,382 So, I got a page. Nigga was like, Put on the news. 1447 01:17:27,685 --> 01:17:29,471 [DAN RATHER] The rap singer, Tupac Shakur 1448 01:17:29,562 --> 01:17:32,224 was killed in a drive-by shooting in Las Vegas. 1449 01:17:32,314 --> 01:17:36,478 No one has been arrested in the killing. Shakur was 25 years old. 1450 01:17:40,072 --> 01:17:45,192 So, I drove to Vegas to go, um... To go see. 1451 01:17:46,078 --> 01:17:47,989 And his mama was in the hallway. 1452 01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:51,368 And she was like, Go in there, say somethin' to him, baby. 1453 01:17:52,084 --> 01:17:55,327 I'm like, All right. I went up in there and just, you know... 1454 01:17:59,425 --> 01:18:00,425 Fucked up. 1455 01:18:03,762 --> 01:18:06,845 It was just the worst thing that could happen. 1456 01:18:06,932 --> 01:18:09,173 You know, these are things that 1457 01:18:09,977 --> 01:18:13,766 everybody wishes they could have prevented somehow. 1458 01:18:14,064 --> 01:18:15,099 You know? 1459 01:18:15,566 --> 01:18:18,433 And, if only, if only, you know, and... 1460 01:18:21,447 --> 01:18:24,360 There was no reason for Tupac to die. You know? 1461 01:18:24,450 --> 01:18:27,238 And, um, especially like that. 1462 01:18:27,870 --> 01:18:29,326 A life is lost. 1463 01:18:29,413 --> 01:18:32,622 Company's goin' down the hill. Everybody's in disarray. 1464 01:18:32,958 --> 01:18:35,871 And Dre on the sideline, watchin'. 1465 01:18:35,961 --> 01:18:38,328 And everybody's sayin', I see why you left, Dre- 1466 01:18:39,506 --> 01:18:41,463 [NEWS READER] Los Angeles superior court judge 1467 01:18:41,550 --> 01:18:44,713 ordered Knight into court for violating his probation 1468 01:18:44,803 --> 01:18:46,965 and then raised troubling questions 1469 01:18:47,056 --> 01:18:49,889 about why Knight hadn't been locked up before now. 1470 01:18:49,975 --> 01:18:52,467 [JIMMY] Suge went to prison for a long time. 1471 01:18:52,937 --> 01:18:56,020 And that was the end. 1472 01:18:56,774 --> 01:18:58,731 [DR. DRE] I feel like the gangsta rap era's over. 1473 01:18:58,817 --> 01:19:02,685 You know, put out negative energy, it's gonna come back to you, period. 1474 01:19:03,322 --> 01:19:05,313 Live by the gun, die by the gun. 1475 01:19:07,159 --> 01:19:09,321 It's time for somethin' else, you know. 1476 01:19:10,204 --> 01:19:12,616 I just been trying to put together a new family, 1477 01:19:12,706 --> 01:19:15,494 and basically just start all over. 1478 01:19:22,299 --> 01:19:24,290 [MUSIC PLAYING] 128932

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