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03 The Defiant Ones - Part 3 English
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[BONO] There's something in him
that's attracted to rage.
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That's the thing, I think, to explore.
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[MAN] Oh, the bear, Jimmy.
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[CHUCKLING] What is it about the bear,
by the way?
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I like bears more than I like, probably...
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It's my favorite animal, because,
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not only can it get you on land,
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if you go in the water,
it will come for you there,
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and it is faster than
you on land and in water.
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And it's big as all hell.
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That is the ultimate machine
as far as I'm concerned.
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God got that one really right.
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[SNOOP DOGG] [IMITATING
ITALIAN ACCENT] Jimmy Lovine.
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That's how you say his name in Italy.
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Jimmy is Italioni.
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That's why they can't really fuck with him
like they really want to.
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You know what I'm sayin'?
Overplay the fettuccine.
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[JIMMY] My mother was very intense.
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[JANET] She felt that everyone
was taking advantage of him.
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She was always looking at the angle
that someone might have.
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And Jimmy picked up that.
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[JIMMY] She loved me,
but she worried a lot.
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And that just made me twitch, literally.
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[LAUGHS]
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In my neighborhood, either you could
punch good, duck good,
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or have a great sense of humor.
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And I was the latter.
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I was nowhere near a tough guy, but there
were sure a lot of tough guys around.
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Everyone in the neighborhood,
they wanted to earn a few extra bucks.
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As a longshoreman, my dad used to tell me there
were extra things lying around the pier.
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He'd bring home 12 catcher's mitts.
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And I said, What am I gonna do with 12...
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My uncle would bring things home,
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my next-door neighbor
would bring things home
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and they would trade them.
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And that was the culture.
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[STEVE STOUTE] So, you're dealing with
Italian, short-man complex from Brooklyn.
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You're dealing with a lot of energy.
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And he took that into the record business.
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Jimmy's one of those guys
that if you think you killed him,
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you better go back and shoot him again
because he'll get up. [LAUGHS]
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It's opera.
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Italians love the opera.
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Big emotions, violence.
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That energy, that rage...
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He has it.
He just doesn't come off as angry.
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But under the skin of it,
he likes blood and bones.
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[HIP-HOP MUSIC PLAYING]
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[YELLING]
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Man, they looking for that rock.
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Nigga used to wanna shoot at me,
now he wanna rap with me.
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[DR. DRE] The first time I heard Snoop,
a friend of mine had a bachelor party.
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I'd met Snoop before that,
he was sellin' drugs.
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And my stepbrother Warren G,
pops this tape in.
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♪ Rollin' in my 6-4 ♪
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I'm like, That's Snoop?
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I'm like, Man, this is a fucking diamond
in the rough and we need to polish it up.
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So, it went from that
to me receivin' a phone call.
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But I hung up.
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Like, Nigga, this ain't no
motherfucking Dr. Dre.
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Nigga called back like,
Nigga, be at the studio Monday.
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[DR. DRE] So, Snoop comes in the studio,
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I put this track up for him
and he just freestylin'.
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And this shit was super sick.
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And then the thought of my solo album
started becomin' a reality in my mind.
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Had Snoop, Warren G and D. O. C.
help outwith the lyrics.
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That's a great beginning.
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♪ Creepin' down the back street on D's ♪
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♪ I got my Glock cocked ♪
♪ cause niggas want these ♪
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♪ Now soon as I said it, ♪
♪ seems I got sweated ♪
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♪ By some nigga with a TE ♪
♪ C-9 Tryin' to take mine ♪
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♪ You want to make noise, make noise ♪
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♪ I make a phone call My niggas ♪
♪ comin' like the Gotti boys ♪
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[DR. DRE] I had just got a new house
in Calabasas,
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completely empty with the exception
of my bedroom and downstairs studio.
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So we downstairs
makin' songs with no furniture.
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Some nights it would be me, him.
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And then some nights, there would be
about 1,000 motherfuckers in there.
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A lot of people have come out...
Hold up, baby.
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[DR. DRE] Kurupt stayed there,
Snoop lived there, Daz, Nate Dogg.
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It's just full of really creative people.
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We would party for a while.
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I'd hear somebody go,
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With my mind on my money
and my money on my mind.
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Barn. Yo, hold that.
Let's go in the studio. Let's lay that.
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[SNOOP DOGG] We created
some great fuckin' music.
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[MOUTHING]
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But it was domestically dysfunctional.
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You know what I'm sayin'?
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[DR. DRE] People fuckin'in the bathrooms.
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People fuckin' anywhere except my room.
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[SNOOP DOGG] But we wasjust happy
to be outta the hood, workin' with Dr. Dre.
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I was on house arrest.
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[SNOOP DOGG] This was one of the
baddest motherfuckers to ever do it.
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I mean, his ear is different.
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You can't really say, Why did he pick me
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outta all of the rappers
that was rappin' in the '80s and say,
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'Well, I 'mma put you down with me '?
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I don't know why, but he always put me up.
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Hey, Snoop Doggy-Dogg,
welcome to Yo! MTV Raps.
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Wassup, Fab.
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[FAB 5 FREDDY] Snoop
really was a street guy,
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but he was the personality
I had not seen in rap.
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It was a whole other flow.
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[SNOOP DOGG]
My thing back then was freestyle.
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Like, I didn't know how to write.
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But D.O.C. was my teacher.
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He was the one who showed me, Do this
like this and that and this and...
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He gave me that line,
you know what I'm sayin'?
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And then, there was some white boys,
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and they had a truck,
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and motherfucker had some
sort of device, mechanism.
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And he was like,
Dude, this is the hydroponic.
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It's hydroponic, man.
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Like, we was just smokin',
niggas was gettin' fucked up.
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I'm becoming a hippie.
I'm becoming a stoner.
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By the end of the night, niggas was like,
Nigga, that hydroponic, nigga.
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Nigga, that hydro-chronic is the shit.
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We fucked around
and fucked the whole name up.
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Yeah, he like,
Nigga, this shit is bomb, nigga.
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Your album should be called
The Chronic, nigga.
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And I was wearin' that white hat
with the green leaf on it.
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It was like everything
was comin' together like magic.
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[BOY] I love you, Mommy.
[VICKI] I love you, too.
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[JIMMY] In 1989,
I wanted to stop producing records.
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I didn't wanna be out all night
producing records and not seeing my kids.
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So, I went to a couple of friends.
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I went to David Geffen,
seek their advice, you know.
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[ALLEN GRUBMAN] Geffen, Geffen, Geffen.
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Let me get you to understand this properly.
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You don't have to say Madonna's last name.
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You don't have to say Cher's last name.
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You don't have to say Bono's last name.
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You don't have to say
David's last name, got it?
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Jimmy used to sit on his knee
and learn from David.
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My first impressions of Jimmy
were that he was a sponge.
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That he picked up
everything he heard or saw.
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[JIMMY] David had a record company
and it was really successful,
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and I always admired David.
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So, I said, Man, maybe,
I could start a record company.
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He wanted to make a lot of money.
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And record producers
don't make that much money.
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People talk about those things.
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[JIMMY] David taught me
the an' of business in music.
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And I was going in
not knowing anything about business.
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And because David sold Geffen Records,
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everybody wanted to get
in the label business.
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And it was incredible competition.
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So, then, there was a guy named Ted Field
who was starting a record company.
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And we really hit it off.
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DAVID: Ted Field was the renegade of the
very wealthy Marshall Field's family.
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He didn't want to take over
any of the family businesses,
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and he had a passion for entertainment.
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[JIMMY] So, we decided to do this together.
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And I brought along Doug Morris
from Atlantic.
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I said, Jimmy, you wanna start the label?
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You know, I'm in for half if you want it.
I was always in for half.
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[JIMMY] And that's how
Interscope came about.
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And naturally,
because Atlantic's our partner,
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they brought along Time Warner,
'cause Time Warner owns Atlantic.
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You get a guy you know is gonna get hits,
you make him the boss.
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He's gonna bring in the music.
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And the other people who do the
other stuff, they do the other stuff.
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[JIMMY] Everyone thinks that I'm gonna come
in and do rock and roll, and they...
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'Cause I came from U2 and Tom Petty
and Springsteen and all this stuff.
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But I came in and wanted a hit.
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So, I came back from
lunch one day with Ted,
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and all of the secretaries
are lookin' at this video.
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And it was in Spanish.
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They said, Oh, we love this guy.
He's so beautiful.
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And they're all singing this Rico Suave.
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[MUSIC PLAYING]
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Man, fuck it, we're gonna sign this.
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What? This is gonna be our first signing?
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Is this what we're going to be known for
as a record company?
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He goes, I don't care,
we're just signing it.
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[RAPPING IN SPANISH]
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[TOM WHALLEY]
I said, Well, if we're gonna sign this,
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I'm gonna go find something
that is so out there
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that people won't know
what the heck we're doin'.
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So, I hit the road and I end up finding
a group called Primus.
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♪ Hello, Mr. Krinkle How are you today? ♪
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♪ Seems the rumors are about ♪
♪ your team might move away ♪
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[TOM WHALLEY] The odd part was,
Primus liked odd things in the world.
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And one of the reasons they signed with us
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is because they thought
it was the coolest thing
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that we had a company that had Rico Suave.
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Go figure. I didn't know Gerardo
would be a hit, but it was.
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Huge hit. Put us on the map.
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So, next thing you know, it felt like
everyone wanted to be with Interscope.
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[JIMMY] It was a complete free-for-all.
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Primus, Helmet, 4 Non Blondes,
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Tupac was signed by Tom Whalley.
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And then Mark Wahlberg,
who was known as Marky Mark,
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with his brother, Donnie.
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And No Doubt.
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- [FEMALE REPORTER] What's your name?
- I'm Gwen.
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[FEMALE REPORTER]
Gwen is now going to glue her costume.
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Follow me.
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Okay, here we go.
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[MALE REPORTER] ls it true that you wanna
be a big star and tour the world?
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Yes, I wanna be a star. Yeah.
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[CHUCKLES]
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[GWEN STEFANI] The first time I met Jimmy
was at a showcase.
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Probably '91.
I had no idea what Interscope records was.
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I didn't know who Jimmy Lovine was.
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♪ I chose a road when I was young ♪
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♪ In search of fun, temptation won ♪
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♪ And all my soul I did surrender... ♪
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[GWEN] It was just them there and us
playing and there was no audience.
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And we knew that these were, like,
guys that can help us make a record.
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But I was super naive. I didn't
know anything about getting signed.
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I just sang and wrote songs
and made clothes.
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♪ Sometimes I hide somewhat ♪
♪ Like a bulb behind a shade ♪
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But I remember Jimmy came up to me
and kinda pulled me aside.
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And he said to me,
You're gonna be a star in six years.
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And I was like,
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Okay, first of all, I'm gonna have, like, ten
kids by the time six years comes around.
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And I won't be doing this still.
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And, um, who are you?
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And why six years? That's a weird number,
you know, but he was right.
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I hadn't gone through
what I needed to go through
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to write the record that was gonna actually
make a difference and touch people,
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you know, and so,
he bought us an eight-track recorder.
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We built a studio in our garage.
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And we went in there
and we learned how to write music.
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But we'd write, like, a few songs and be
like, Okay, let's go play it for Jimmy.
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And it would always be, like,
a bit of a, like... [SIGHS]
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Write another song, write another song,
write another song.
231
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And it was a frustrating relationship,
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because when you're an artist,
you think you're done.
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And in his mind, you're never done.
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We had very few releases in '91.
235
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And Jimmy was a renowned producer,
very creative.
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But he wasn't renowned as a businessman.
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[JIMMY] So, you know, I didn't feel
comfortable around executives,
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I felt comfortable
around artists and record producers.
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Because they know
how to get the best out of artists.
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And then I found my niche.
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I said, Okay, I gotta find great
producers, and I produce them.
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♪ Why are you doing this to me? ♪
243
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♪ Am I not living up To ♪
♪ what I'm supposed to be? ♪
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[COHEN] Our first real adventure
was getting Nine Inch Nails.
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♪ I think you owe me a great big apology ♪
246
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♪ Terrible lie... ♪
247
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1991 was when Jimmy first got a sniff
of Nine Inch Nails.
248
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Holy shit, this guy's incredible.
249
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Every day, conversations about
We gotta get Nine Inch Nails.
250
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But it wasn't just a band on the free
market that everybody was trying to sign.
251
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They were signed to a label
and they fuckin' hated that label.
252
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IVI was just a collection of shit.
253
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[STEVE BERMAN]
And the guy who ran that label
254
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wasn't gonna make anybody's lives easy.
255
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Trent and I began to have a little
bit of... [STAMMERING] Difficulty.
256
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[COHEN] He had 'em signed for seven albums.
257
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And everybody in the business
knew they wanted off the label.
258
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This is what, personally, I'm looking for.
259
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That next guy that can write these lyrics
and have this attitude.
260
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And he had the stage presence,
he produced those records himself.
261
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He had every ounce of it.
262
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♪ Terrible lie ♪
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[TRENT] You know, the thing, I mean,
264
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the thing that was so frustrating to me
at that time
265
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was, my whole life,
I knew I wanted to be on stage doing this.
266
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And I remember it was the slow build
where each little moment you could savor,
267
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like, hearing my song
on college radio first time.
268
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Holy shit.
269
00:14:26,741 --> 00:14:29,028
You know, that was, like,
the greatest thing in the world.
270
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I'd finally, through a combination
of hard work and luck,
271
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cracked the door open and signed to TVT.
272
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And I recorded a collection of songs
that we felt proud of.
273
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Turned it in to Gottlieb and he said,
Well, this record's an abortion.
274
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And that's a blow coming
when you've never made a record before.
275
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He's put records out,
maybe he knows more than I do.
276
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And he said, You fucked up
what could have been a good career.
277
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But that was the album,
and we put it out and we just toured.
278
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And as each small tier of success started
happening, the record started to sell.
279
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And I thought that would result
in Gottlieb saying,
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III
Hey, you did know what you were doing -
281
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But instead, it was, If you sold
a million copies of this album,
282
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well, we need to sell four million
on the next one.
283
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Um, I didn't see it that way.
284
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And I knew he wasn't going
to get outta the way.
285
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Trent would not be
the first artist who thought,
286
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Gee, now, I'm having a taste of success.
287
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Wouldn't it be nice to be off an
independent label and on a big label.
288
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[WHALLEY] Pretty much every major label
were all willing to fund a lawsuit
289
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to help them get out of their contracts
290
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'cause they think
Nine Inch Nails is that great.
291
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This is the first time I saw Jimmy
thinkin', like, kinda three-dimensional.
292
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He said, We won't win
if we go down the lawsuit route.
293
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Everyone else is gonna do that,
so, we gotta do something different.
294
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[JIMMY] The only way to
really facilitate this
295
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is somebody goes and convinces the label
to take on a partner.
296
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I said, Well, how are we gonna do that?
297
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[BONO] The phone.
That is his theater of war.
298
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That's where he is deadly.
299
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[STEVE] He started to speak to Steve
Gottlieb every day for one year straight.
300
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He lived in the bathroom for a year,
on the phone.
301
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Every morning at 6:00,
I'd call everybody involved.
302
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And he'd sit on this director's chair,
feet up like this.
303
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At the same time, signin' Nine Inch Nails,
304
00:16:15,224 --> 00:16:17,636
at the same time, workin' TVT,
305
00:16:17,727 --> 00:16:21,937
treating both of 'em in a way
that he could see the resolution.
306
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They couldn't see it.
307
00:16:23,399 --> 00:16:26,482
[JIMMY] The lawyer, Steve, Trent's manager.
308
00:16:26,569 --> 00:16:29,778
And he used anger, charm,
guile, deviousness.
309
00:16:29,864 --> 00:16:31,946
[VICKI] He had a red, hot focus.
310
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It was nuclear.
311
00:16:33,117 --> 00:16:36,030
I'm just gonna sit here,
I can outlast anybody.
312
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[VICKI] He did not come out
of that bathroom for one year.
313
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The kids, I just kept saying,
You know, Daddy's living in the bathroom.
314
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It was painful.
315
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Jimmy wouldn't give up.
316
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[WHALLEY] And when Steve realized
that he was not going to win this battle,
317
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he agreed to sign over the contract
to lnterscope.
318
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Anybody knows Steve Gottlieb,
319
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just getting him to that point
was something that only Jimmy could do.
320
00:17:06,817 --> 00:17:08,057
Empathy-
321
00:17:12,448 --> 00:17:19,320
Um, I think his ability
to take the other person's point of view
322
00:17:20,206 --> 00:17:25,372
and to understand it and appreciate it
and put himself in those shoes,
323
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that also informs
why he's so good as a marketer...
324
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Um,
325
00:17:36,013 --> 00:17:38,801
you know, in terms of his being able
to understand people
326
00:17:38,891 --> 00:17:43,556
and really think about, you know,
their primal motivations,
327
00:17:43,646 --> 00:17:48,732
their desires,
and really try and have this kinda,
328
00:17:48,818 --> 00:17:52,652
Vulcan mind meld
of what is gonna move them.
329
00:18:00,288 --> 00:18:03,497
[JIMMY] So, after all that,
I still hadn't met Trent in person.
330
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By that time, he was completely allergic
to record company executives.
331
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[TRENT] I was in a hotel room
and I'd purposely turned the lights down.
332
00:18:11,090 --> 00:18:13,548
And I just thought,
I'm gonna have to portray myself
333
00:18:13,634 --> 00:18:15,921
as not someone that you wanna deal with.
334
00:18:16,012 --> 00:18:18,407
[JIMMY] I went to this room,
it was dark and there's candles.
335
00:18:18,431 --> 00:18:20,422
I mean, it was like a meeting with Dracula.
336
00:18:20,516 --> 00:18:22,035
[TRENT] You know, he kinda said,
What do you want?
337
00:18:22,059 --> 00:18:25,723
And I said, Well, I'd like you
to give me an advance for an album,
338
00:18:26,355 --> 00:18:27,891
and then just leave me alone.
339
00:18:27,982 --> 00:18:31,771
And I'll give you the album and I'll give
you singles and I'll give you the artwork.
340
00:18:31,861 --> 00:18:34,273
But I don't want
someone sittin' in the studio.
341
00:18:34,363 --> 00:18:38,152
I have an idea, please don't ruin it
as it's trying to come out of me.
342
00:18:38,242 --> 00:18:40,825
Okay, what else do you want?
343
00:18:42,455 --> 00:18:45,948
Um, well, I'd like to have a record label
344
00:18:46,042 --> 00:18:49,535
where I could sign other bands
if I felt like that.
345
00:18:50,129 --> 00:18:52,416
Okay, what else do you want?
346
00:18:52,506 --> 00:18:54,359
And I couldn't think
of anything else, you know?
347
00:18:54,383 --> 00:18:56,862
So, I said, By the way, here's Broken,
you could put that out.
348
00:18:56,886 --> 00:19:00,004
[COHEN] They actually gave us Broken
as a free additional record.
349
00:19:00,097 --> 00:19:03,055
It was amazing, because after
all we had been through with them...
350
00:19:03,142 --> 00:19:04,473
Nobody really knew about it,
351
00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,803
but we were sort of scrambling
for cash for a minute.
352
00:19:07,897 --> 00:19:10,059
[STEVE] Interscope wasn't doin' great
at that moment.
353
00:19:10,191 --> 00:19:14,731
And Jimmy had this mad, obsessed focus
on the big picture.
354
00:19:19,992 --> 00:19:23,326
[JIMMY] The '90s were really volatile times
in America.
355
00:19:23,412 --> 00:19:27,201
And music was incredible.
They really had something to say.
356
00:19:28,167 --> 00:19:32,661
And we wanted a record company
in the spirit of Atlantic Records in 1970,
357
00:19:32,755 --> 00:19:38,000
when they had Ray Charles, Led Zeppelin,
Aretha Franklin, The Rolling Stones.
358
00:19:38,094 --> 00:19:40,836
Those were the greatest
artists of their time,
359
00:19:40,930 --> 00:19:44,139
both from the urban world
and from the rock world.
360
00:19:44,225 --> 00:19:46,091
And that's what we were trying to do.
361
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[STEVE] I walked into
Jimmy's office one day.
362
00:19:52,108 --> 00:19:54,770
He goes, Steve, you know what
your problem is?
363
00:19:55,861 --> 00:19:59,775
And he drew a straight line.
And he goes, That's you.
364
00:19:59,865 --> 00:20:02,152
He goes, You know what
we gotta bring into your life?
365
00:20:02,243 --> 00:20:04,280
And he squiggles,
We gotta get some of that.
366
00:20:04,620 --> 00:20:06,156
[PEOPLE SHOUTING]
367
00:20:08,791 --> 00:20:09,952
Fuck the police!
368
00:20:10,209 --> 00:20:13,452
We go to Westwood,
Brentwood, Whitewood, all that.
369
00:20:15,798 --> 00:20:17,630
[MALE REPORTER] It began as
a high-speed chase
370
00:20:17,717 --> 00:20:19,549
according to the California Highway Patrol
371
00:20:19,635 --> 00:20:21,046
and ended early Sunday morning
372
00:20:21,137 --> 00:20:24,801
with Rodney King being brutally beaten
by Los Angeles police officers.
373
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♪ Tonight's the night I get in some shit ♪
374
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♪ Yeah ♪
375
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♪ Deep cover on the incognito tip ♪
376
00:20:30,146 --> 00:20:33,059
♪ Killin' motherfuckers if I ♪
♪ have to Peelin' caps, too ♪
377
00:20:33,149 --> 00:20:34,981
♪ 'Cause you niggas ♪
♪ know I'm comin' at you ♪
378
00:20:35,192 --> 00:20:36,592
♪ I guess that's part of the game ♪
379
00:20:37,153 --> 00:20:40,487
♪ But I feel for the nigga who think ♪
♪ He just gonna come and change thangs ♪
380
00:20:40,573 --> 00:20:43,156
♪ With the swiftness. ♪
♪ So get it right with the quickness ♪
381
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♪ And let me handle my business, yo ♪
382
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[DR. DRE] During the making ofThe Chronic,
LA was literally on fire.
383
00:20:50,166 --> 00:20:54,330
Niggas was coming in the studio
with TVs and toasters and all kind of shit.
384
00:20:54,420 --> 00:20:57,128
It was like the fucking swap meet
in the mic booth.
385
00:20:57,214 --> 00:20:59,501
Like, man,
What the fuck are you guys doing?
386
00:20:59,675 --> 00:21:01,757
We're trying to work on a fucking record.
387
00:21:01,844 --> 00:21:04,176
I, personally, was like,
Fuck that, nigga.
388
00:21:04,263 --> 00:21:06,550
'Cause I went out looting
and stole all kinds of shit
389
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,096
and brought it all back to studio.
390
00:21:08,184 --> 00:21:11,427
We nabbed D.O.C., Yeah, get your ass
in the park, nigga, come on.
391
00:21:14,690 --> 00:21:16,772
[MALE REPORTER]
A Los Angeles Times poll out today
392
00:21:16,859 --> 00:21:19,647
says that Californians cited
a breakdown of moral values
393
00:21:19,737 --> 00:21:21,694
and a lack of economic opportunity
394
00:21:21,781 --> 00:21:25,115
as the two leading causes
of the Los Angeles riots.
395
00:21:25,618 --> 00:21:28,360
Well, young rap musicians
have some ideas of their own
396
00:21:28,454 --> 00:21:30,491
about what caused the deadly violence.
397
00:21:30,581 --> 00:21:32,322
Yeah, well, you know how dogs think that...
398
00:21:32,416 --> 00:21:34,157
Dogs is mainly, you know...
399
00:21:34,251 --> 00:21:36,646
They cool as long as you don't
fuck with them or irritate them.
400
00:21:36,670 --> 00:21:40,584
Once you irritate them, they react,
you know, and that's how we are. You know?
401
00:21:40,674 --> 00:21:43,917
We cool and all, but, you know,
once something pop, everybody...
402
00:21:44,053 --> 00:21:45,384
[BARKING]
403
00:21:52,686 --> 00:21:56,099
Wow. New York, just like I pictured it.
404
00:21:56,232 --> 00:21:59,099
Skyscrapers. Everything. [LAUGHS]
405
00:21:59,193 --> 00:22:00,793
[SNOOP DOGG] Where the chicken place at?
406
00:22:01,153 --> 00:22:04,817
The Chronic took about
eight months to a year to make.
407
00:22:04,907 --> 00:22:07,899
And then the part of shopping it,
that's a whole nother deal.
408
00:22:07,993 --> 00:22:09,154
Where's that leg at?
409
00:22:09,245 --> 00:22:12,078
[DR. DRE] This was that do-or-die album.
410
00:22:12,164 --> 00:22:15,407
Put my body into this record
and my soul into it.
411
00:22:15,501 --> 00:22:19,039
I had mixed it, mastered it,
did all the artwork and everything.
412
00:22:19,213 --> 00:22:21,955
The way it is in the stores right now
is the way I was shopping it.
413
00:22:22,049 --> 00:22:27,044
I'm going to every record company there
is in Los Angeles, fly out to New York.
414
00:22:27,137 --> 00:22:28,844
I'm playing it for everybody.
415
00:22:28,931 --> 00:22:31,923
For some reason,
everybody's turning me down-
416
00:22:33,602 --> 00:22:36,970
There was so many companies out there
that turned Death Row down,
417
00:22:37,064 --> 00:22:41,023
that didn't even wanna be dealing with that
coming off of the N.W.A. situation.
418
00:22:41,110 --> 00:22:43,772
Nobody wanted to deal
with this gangsta rap thing.
419
00:22:44,154 --> 00:22:45,549
[DR. DRE] Some of the companies was saying
420
00:22:45,573 --> 00:22:47,814
they didn't wanna deal
with the situation I was in
421
00:22:47,908 --> 00:22:49,774
as far as Ruthless and the contracts.
422
00:22:49,869 --> 00:22:51,701
And Eazy-E and Jerry Heller,
423
00:22:51,787 --> 00:22:55,280
they're trying to starve me out to get me
to come back in on my hands and knees.
424
00:22:55,374 --> 00:22:57,331
And I started second-guessing myself.
425
00:22:57,626 --> 00:23:01,290
Is it possible that
what I think is good isn't good,
426
00:23:01,380 --> 00:23:04,589
because everybody is telling me
it's not working?
427
00:23:04,675 --> 00:23:06,611
[MALE REPORTER] And this was what
they were calling trash,
428
00:23:06,635 --> 00:23:09,297
cassettes and CDs of rap
they say is offensive.
429
00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:15,176
1992, there was tremendous hostility
to the rap business.
430
00:23:15,269 --> 00:23:18,933
The police were very sensitive
to what had happened in Los Angeles.
431
00:23:19,023 --> 00:23:24,143
And a guy named Bill Bennett
with C. Delores Tucker adopted this topic.
432
00:23:24,236 --> 00:23:26,819
That's what gangsta rap
is doing to our children,
433
00:23:27,031 --> 00:23:28,442
turning them into gangsters.
434
00:23:28,532 --> 00:23:30,273
[FUCHS] It was a very high-profile war.
435
00:23:32,494 --> 00:23:33,889
[STOUTE] The record companies were scared.
436
00:23:33,913 --> 00:23:38,157
Not because it wasn't making money,
they were afraid to deal with the people.
437
00:23:38,334 --> 00:23:40,061
[JIMMY] We'd come out of the rock
and roll world, you know,
438
00:23:40,085 --> 00:23:43,328
so, I wasn't really understanding hip-hop,
and I'm the first person to admit that.
439
00:23:43,797 --> 00:23:46,505
But I had a lot of
respect for John McClane.
440
00:23:46,926 --> 00:23:49,088
And John came to me and said that
441
00:23:49,178 --> 00:23:53,217
he had this record by this producer
that was extraordinary.
442
00:23:53,474 --> 00:23:55,431
It was the guy from N. W.A.
443
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,767
I didn't know who Dr. Dre was.
444
00:23:58,854 --> 00:24:00,765
But just like Trent Reznor,
445
00:24:00,856 --> 00:24:03,598
there was three or four
different lawsuits pending.
446
00:24:03,692 --> 00:24:06,605
There's a lot of complications,
a lot of weird stuff.
447
00:24:06,695 --> 00:24:09,403
No one wanted to go near it. It was a mess.
448
00:24:10,616 --> 00:24:14,701
All I remember is that Dre and Suge
came in to play us The Chronic.
449
00:24:20,376 --> 00:24:22,834
[HIP-HOP MUSIC PLAYING]
450
00:24:24,546 --> 00:24:27,664
I said, Dre, who recorded this for you?
451
00:24:28,676 --> 00:24:29,916
He said, What do you mean?
452
00:24:30,010 --> 00:24:32,291
I said, Who's the recording engineer?
And he said, Me.
453
00:24:33,263 --> 00:24:36,472
You produced it
and you were the engineer? Yes.
454
00:24:36,558 --> 00:24:40,517
I said, Wow.
This guy will define lnterscope.
455
00:24:40,604 --> 00:24:42,971
♪ One, two, three and to the four ♪
456
00:24:43,065 --> 00:24:45,523
♪ Snoop Doggy Dogg and ♪
♪ Dr. Dre Is at the door ♪
457
00:24:45,609 --> 00:24:47,816
♪ Ready to make an ♪
♪ entrance, so back on up ♪
458
00:24:47,903 --> 00:24:49,743
♪ 'Cause you know we're ♪
♪ about to rip shit up ♪
459
00:24:49,822 --> 00:24:52,735
♪ Give me the microphone first ♪
♪ So I can bust, like a bubble ♪
460
00:24:52,908 --> 00:24:55,548
♪ Compton and Long Beach together ♪
♪ Now you know you're in trouble ♪
461
00:24:55,577 --> 00:24:58,035
♪ Ain't nothing but a G thang, baby ♪
462
00:24:58,122 --> 00:25:00,580
♪ Two loc'ed out niggas, so we're crazy ♪
463
00:25:00,666 --> 00:25:03,033
♪ Death Row is the label that pays me ♪
464
00:25:03,127 --> 00:25:05,539
♪ Unfadeable, ♪
♪ so please don't try to fade this ♪
465
00:25:05,629 --> 00:25:07,961
♪ But, um, back to the lecture at hand... ♪
466
00:25:08,048 --> 00:25:11,006
[JIMMY] Dre's sonics were far superior
467
00:25:11,093 --> 00:25:14,006
to any rock record being made
or any hip-hop.
468
00:25:14,096 --> 00:25:16,508
It just sounded better
than anything else on my speakers.
469
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:20,975
Jimmy was unlike any other
record exec that I ever met.
470
00:25:21,061 --> 00:25:24,144
He wasn't talking about
how many records we were gonna sell.
471
00:25:24,231 --> 00:25:26,222
It was a conversation about the an'.
472
00:25:26,316 --> 00:25:31,106
[JIMMY] I said, Wow, these guys remind me
of when I first saw The Rolling Stones.
473
00:25:31,196 --> 00:25:33,028
They're the same as Mick and Keith.
474
00:25:33,115 --> 00:25:35,857
They scare you,
but their music brings you in.
475
00:25:36,035 --> 00:25:38,402
♪ But now it's time for me ♪
♪ To make my impression felt ♪
476
00:25:38,495 --> 00:25:41,032
♪ So sit back, ♪
♪ relax And strap on your seat belt ♪
477
00:25:41,123 --> 00:25:43,615
♪ You never been on a ♪
♪ ride like this before ♪
478
00:25:43,709 --> 00:25:46,121
♪ With a producer who can ♪
♪ rap And control the maestro ♪
479
00:25:46,211 --> 00:25:49,044
♪ At the same time With the ♪
♪ dope rhyme that I kick ♪
480
00:25:49,131 --> 00:25:51,498
♪ You know and I know I ♪
♪ flow some old funky shit ♪
481
00:25:51,592 --> 00:25:54,960
I said, I'll tell you what,
if you guys don't move on me,
482
00:25:55,971 --> 00:26:00,056
and give me two to three weeks,
I can clear up all these lawsuits.
483
00:26:00,976 --> 00:26:02,616
And Suge and Dre looked at me and said...
484
00:26:02,644 --> 00:26:04,385
Okay, that sounds good to me.
485
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,391
[STOUTE] I don't know
any other white executive
486
00:26:06,482 --> 00:26:07,938
would've took on what Jimmy took on,
487
00:26:08,025 --> 00:26:11,734
which was one of the biggest headaches to
come through the industry ever, probably.
488
00:26:11,820 --> 00:26:14,903
[STEVE] I remember sitting in the meeting
and the promotion guys were saying,
489
00:26:15,157 --> 00:26:17,239
We ain't gonna get radio to play that.
490
00:26:17,326 --> 00:26:21,365
And Jimmy's like, I want you to buy
radio spots in the top markets.
491
00:26:21,497 --> 00:26:22,497
All of them.
492
00:26:22,581 --> 00:26:25,448
Get this hook played,
because the hook is undeniable.
493
00:26:25,959 --> 00:26:27,415
I'm the boss. Go do it.
494
00:26:29,546 --> 00:26:32,538
92.3 The Beat.
What you wanna say to The Beat?
495
00:26:32,633 --> 00:26:34,569
♪ It's like this. ♪
♪ And who gives a fuck about those? ♪
496
00:26:34,593 --> 00:26:37,005
♪ So just chill till the next episode... ♪
497
00:26:37,930 --> 00:26:39,824
[NAS] When The Chronic hit,
it changed the world.
498
00:26:39,848 --> 00:26:42,385
Musically, he's now left Earth.
499
00:26:42,893 --> 00:26:44,884
Funk, break beats, reggae.
500
00:26:44,978 --> 00:26:47,766
The whole fanatic development,
the ebb and flow,
501
00:26:47,856 --> 00:26:52,191
the stories about the uprising, the riots,
coming out of that dark period.
502
00:26:52,277 --> 00:26:56,817
And he delivered Snoop on a silver platter
with bullet shells around him.
503
00:26:56,907 --> 00:26:59,865
♪ Falling back on that ass ♪
♪ With a hellafied gangsta lean ♪
504
00:26:59,952 --> 00:27:03,115
♪ Getting funky on the mic Like ♪
♪ a old batch of collard greens ♪
505
00:27:03,205 --> 00:27:05,365
♪ It's the capital S, oh yes, ♪
♪ I'm fresh N double-O, P ♪
506
00:27:05,415 --> 00:27:07,452
♪ D,O, double-G,Y,D,O, ♪
♪ double-G, you see ♪
507
00:27:07,543 --> 00:27:09,143
[SNOOP DOGG] When Jimmy Lovine was like,
508
00:27:09,628 --> 00:27:14,668
Snoop, I wanna get you guys
on the cover of the Rolling Stone magazine.
509
00:27:14,758 --> 00:27:16,214
You guys are like Mick and Keith.
510
00:27:16,301 --> 00:27:18,793
I'm like,
Who the fuck is Mick and Keith, nigga?
511
00:27:18,887 --> 00:27:20,878
Fuck the Rolling Stone magazine, nigga,
512
00:27:20,973 --> 00:27:23,431
I wanna be on
The Source magazine cover, nigga.
513
00:27:23,517 --> 00:27:26,350
Do you know that is hip-hop supremacy?
514
00:27:26,436 --> 00:27:29,349
No, no, the Rolling
Stone magazine is the...
515
00:27:29,439 --> 00:27:31,720
I'm like, Man, I don't even fuck
with The Rolling Stones.
516
00:27:31,775 --> 00:27:33,857
I couldn't tell you
one of them niggas' songs, man.
517
00:27:33,944 --> 00:27:35,230
Fuck them.
518
00:27:37,030 --> 00:27:39,830
And that motherfucker blew up, nigga.
That motherfucker was everywhere.
519
00:27:39,908 --> 00:27:41,069
I started going on tour
520
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,680
and it was just white folks coming up to me
left and right like,
521
00:27:43,745 --> 00:27:46,203
Oh my God, we love you.
Snoop Doggy Dogg.
522
00:27:46,290 --> 00:27:48,452
All around the world,
like, Damn, Jimmy Lovine,
523
00:27:48,542 --> 00:27:52,251
I ain't never had that many white people
coming for me in my whole life, cuz,
524
00:27:52,337 --> 00:27:55,329
telling me how much they love me, cuz.
Thank you, I appreciate that.
525
00:27:55,716 --> 00:27:57,582
We started having success right away.
526
00:27:58,594 --> 00:28:01,006
So, Iput Suge and Dre
and Death Row Records
527
00:28:01,096 --> 00:28:03,133
right next to me on the same floor.
528
00:28:03,223 --> 00:28:04,534
[COHEN] Jimmy took Suge under his wings.
529
00:28:04,558 --> 00:28:06,845
I mean, Jimmy used to have football games
at his house.
530
00:28:06,935 --> 00:28:09,472
He would have Suge over there
every Sunday with the Kennedys.
531
00:28:09,605 --> 00:28:11,016
All right, team, go, team!
532
00:28:11,106 --> 00:28:13,268
Every Sunday,
it was football at the lovines'.
533
00:28:13,358 --> 00:28:15,474
How many people
have a football field at their house?
534
00:28:15,652 --> 00:28:17,463
[JANET] We would never know
who was going to show up.
535
00:28:17,487 --> 00:28:19,774
[PAUL WACHTER] Wayne Gretzky would
show up, and Bon Jovi.
536
00:28:19,865 --> 00:28:21,355
- Gene Simmons.
- Tom Jones.
537
00:28:21,450 --> 00:28:23,737
- John McEnroe.
- [PAUL] Eddie Van Halen played.
538
00:28:24,077 --> 00:28:27,320
And it was an honest to goodness,
serious football.
539
00:28:27,414 --> 00:28:29,174
You didn't!
You blocked me the entire way up!
540
00:28:29,208 --> 00:28:30,208
I did not!
541
00:28:30,292 --> 00:28:31,703
- Second down.
- No, no.
542
00:28:31,793 --> 00:28:33,625
- Second down.
- Not complete, third down.
543
00:28:33,712 --> 00:28:35,623
- Second down.
- Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy.
544
00:28:36,548 --> 00:28:38,209
- Ball's up there.
- Jimmy.
545
00:28:38,300 --> 00:28:40,211
[FUCHS] Jimmy was very serious
about winning.
546
00:28:40,302 --> 00:28:42,714
But I gotta tell you,
we were all serious about winning.
547
00:28:49,102 --> 00:28:51,389
[COHEN] The reason
Interscope was successful
548
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,972
versus a lot of the other
start-ups at the time,
549
00:28:54,066 --> 00:28:55,101
was Jimmy was an animal.
550
00:28:55,776 --> 00:28:58,643
I mean, the most driven
and brilliant person at the same time.
551
00:28:58,820 --> 00:29:00,231
He was never off.
552
00:29:00,489 --> 00:29:04,232
And he didn't understand
why everybody else wasn't the same way.
553
00:29:06,078 --> 00:29:07,347
[VICKI] We were both in production mode.
554
00:29:07,371 --> 00:29:11,330
I was producing kids and a family,
and he was producing his company.
555
00:29:11,833 --> 00:29:14,621
We had the goal
to make this incredible career.
556
00:29:14,836 --> 00:29:16,076
Vicki's an attorney.
557
00:29:16,171 --> 00:29:19,163
Vicki's just, you know,
she was very, very smart.
558
00:29:19,341 --> 00:29:20,957
And Vicki ran their life.
559
00:29:21,260 --> 00:29:22,466
[VICKI] The vision was,
560
00:29:22,552 --> 00:29:26,420
we knew that Jimmy's thing was going to be
the thing that would change the world.
561
00:29:27,099 --> 00:29:31,184
So, it was worth it for me
to make small sacrifices.
562
00:29:31,270 --> 00:29:35,980
I mean, Jimmy used to talk to his artists
every single night.
563
00:29:36,275 --> 00:29:38,687
He would literally have panic attacks
on the weekends
564
00:29:38,777 --> 00:29:41,439
because it was the weekend
and he couldn't get a hold of people.
565
00:29:41,530 --> 00:29:43,316
Like, he would just call, call, call, call.
566
00:29:43,407 --> 00:29:44,613
Like, obsessive,
567
00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:47,738
because he didn't really care at all
about anything but hip-hop.
568
00:29:48,370 --> 00:29:49,451
Let's face it.
569
00:29:49,538 --> 00:29:52,246
[STEP JOHNSON] The street game is
about money, getting that paper.
570
00:29:52,332 --> 00:29:54,949
Jimmy admired Suge.
They cared about each other.
571
00:29:55,043 --> 00:29:57,455
They was making money together, winning.
572
00:29:58,046 --> 00:30:02,085
But I don't think Jimmy realized
how deep the culture shock was
573
00:30:02,175 --> 00:30:04,712
that he was getting ready
to get into at the time.
574
00:30:05,637 --> 00:30:07,799
And they call it What's My Name?
It's called Who Am I?
575
00:30:07,889 --> 00:30:09,345
- WOMAN: Who Am I?
- Yeah.
576
00:30:16,982 --> 00:30:19,815
[STEP JOHNSON] After The Chronic came out,
the most anticipated album,
577
00:30:20,068 --> 00:30:22,856
not just in America,
but over in Europe, everywhere,
578
00:30:22,946 --> 00:30:25,779
was gonna beSnoop's
first album, Doggystyle.
579
00:30:25,907 --> 00:30:30,117
♪ Snoop Doggy D099 ♪
580
00:30:30,912 --> 00:30:34,496
♪ Snoop Doggy D099 ♪
581
00:30:35,250 --> 00:30:37,662
♪ It's the bow to the wow ♪
♪ Creeping and crawling ♪
582
00:30:37,753 --> 00:30:40,165
♪ Yiggy yes y'allin, Snoop Doggy Dogg in ♪
583
00:30:40,255 --> 00:30:42,496
♪ The motherfucking house like everyday ♪
584
00:30:42,591 --> 00:30:44,923
♪ Dropping shit with my nigga Mr. Dr. Dre ♪
585
00:30:45,552 --> 00:30:46,988
[STEP JOHNSON] I mean, it was laid out.
586
00:30:47,012 --> 00:30:49,293
I mean, Jimmy and them
had learned a lot from The Chronic.
587
00:30:49,598 --> 00:30:50,929
Great marketing plan.
588
00:30:51,016 --> 00:30:54,099
[FUCHS] And, also,
music had converted to CDs.
589
00:30:54,311 --> 00:30:58,350
And people didn't understand
that it cost a lot less to make a CD
590
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:00,226
than it cost to make cassettes.
591
00:31:00,317 --> 00:31:04,106
So, that was the most lucrative time
in the history of the music business.
592
00:31:07,032 --> 00:31:09,886
[STEP JOHNSON] We knew we was getting
ready to make a killing with this music.
593
00:31:09,910 --> 00:31:11,025
[NAS] Oh, It was crazy.
594
00:31:11,119 --> 00:31:12,325
But you know what that means,
595
00:31:12,412 --> 00:31:15,120
when that word million
is hitting the street in the '90s,
596
00:31:15,457 --> 00:31:17,869
street guys rapping about the streets.
597
00:31:17,959 --> 00:31:20,075
Now, we attach the word million
to their name,
598
00:31:20,170 --> 00:31:21,456
it flipped the streets.
599
00:31:21,755 --> 00:31:24,417
'Cause, now,
even/body's muscling their way into rap.
600
00:31:26,968 --> 00:31:29,155
[FAB 5 FREDDY] In fact, what happened
in the shooting of that video,
601
00:31:29,179 --> 00:31:31,261
first morning, crowd gathers.
602
00:31:31,348 --> 00:31:34,557
My assistant directors are coming over
to me, going, Fab, we got a problem.
603
00:31:34,643 --> 00:31:37,431
I'm like, What?
These guys are not listening to anybody.
604
00:31:37,521 --> 00:31:39,281
They were trying to ask
people to step back.
605
00:31:39,314 --> 00:31:41,976
One fight breaks out over there.
Another fight breaks out.
606
00:31:42,067 --> 00:31:43,933
Yo, fuck you.
We ain't moving nowhere, cuz.
607
00:31:44,027 --> 00:31:46,064
Dre said,
I can't say nothing to them guys.
608
00:31:46,154 --> 00:31:48,236
Next thing I know,
police helicopters hovering.
609
00:31:48,323 --> 00:31:49,813
So, we shut down the shoot.
610
00:31:51,118 --> 00:31:52,654
[SIREN WAILING]
611
00:31:54,371 --> 00:31:57,291
[FAB 5 FREDDY] And so, later, we went back
to Dre's house, and we huddled.
612
00:31:57,374 --> 00:32:00,241
Dre said, Look, Fab, if you can hang,
you're welcome to stay here.
613
00:32:00,335 --> 00:32:02,667
And, like, we will get this video done.
614
00:32:05,382 --> 00:32:07,464
[PIANO PLAYING]
615
00:32:08,718 --> 00:32:13,258
That whole summer, I felt like
I was living in the record, The Chronic,
616
00:32:13,849 --> 00:32:17,683
because the sex, the violence, the hood,
it was a wild scene.
617
00:32:17,853 --> 00:32:19,435
[MAN] Dr. Gin and Juice.
618
00:32:19,855 --> 00:32:23,348
[FAB 5 FREDDY] But I remember after
three shoots where Snoop didn't show up,
619
00:32:23,442 --> 00:32:26,480
I was like, Dre, man,
when is Snoop gonna get here?
620
00:32:26,820 --> 00:32:30,108
And that's when Dre explained to me
that somebody had been shot and killed
621
00:32:30,198 --> 00:32:31,688
and that Snoop was on the low.
622
00:32:31,992 --> 00:32:34,359
[MALE REPORTER]
It happened in this Los Angeles park.
623
00:32:34,828 --> 00:32:38,913
Snoop's bodyguard shot and killed
24-year-old Philip Woldemariam.
624
00:32:39,124 --> 00:32:40,740
Snoop didn't pull the trigger,
625
00:32:40,834 --> 00:32:43,826
but he, the bodyguard and a third man
were all charged with murder
626
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,003
because prosecutors say
they hunted down Woldemariam
627
00:32:47,090 --> 00:32:48,455
after an earlier argument.
628
00:32:48,550 --> 00:32:50,791
Snoop Doggy Dogg,
whose real name is Calvin Broadus,
629
00:32:50,886 --> 00:32:52,342
claims self-defense.
630
00:32:52,429 --> 00:32:54,670
[MALE REPORTER]
This would be appropriately characterized
631
00:32:54,764 --> 00:32:57,381
as a gang-motivated type killing.
632
00:32:57,767 --> 00:32:59,553
[JIMMY] I remember Suge calling and saying,
633
00:32:59,644 --> 00:33:01,122
You're about to hear something
on the news.
634
00:33:01,146 --> 00:33:03,228
Just know that our guys are all right
635
00:33:03,648 --> 00:33:05,480
and it's all gonna be okay.
636
00:33:06,109 --> 00:33:09,522
Next thing I knew, cops everywhere,
surrounding the building.
637
00:33:09,946 --> 00:33:13,814
That was rough. You know, we'd never been
involved in something like that.
638
00:33:14,784 --> 00:33:16,775
D.O.C.: That caught me
completely off-guard.
639
00:33:17,537 --> 00:33:20,529
But by that time,
gangbanging had showed up.
640
00:33:20,624 --> 00:33:23,036
You know, and Suge would show up
with these big dudes,
641
00:33:23,126 --> 00:33:26,790
red everywhere,
and Snoop had his crew in blues,
642
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,666
and it was just nuts.
643
00:33:32,761 --> 00:33:36,595
Yeah, you know, um, it was kind of exciting
644
00:33:36,681 --> 00:33:38,843
because the environment
was kind of thuggish.
645
00:33:38,934 --> 00:33:41,426
It was Bloods on this
side, Crips on this side,
646
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,978
and I'm hearing
all these different war stories.
647
00:33:44,439 --> 00:33:47,807
And I feel like it was something I needed,
648
00:33:47,901 --> 00:33:50,939
because if I'm producing a record
for a particular artist,
649
00:33:51,446 --> 00:33:55,531
it's like you have to get into
the type of vibe that they're in
650
00:33:55,951 --> 00:33:59,694
and understand the type of environment
that they're coming from, creatively,
651
00:33:59,788 --> 00:34:03,406
and just, you know...
You have to almost be that person.
652
00:34:14,469 --> 00:34:15,675
[COHEN] Marilyn Manson?
653
00:34:15,804 --> 00:34:17,215
Yeah, he was pretty rough.
654
00:34:17,639 --> 00:34:20,131
Trent insisted that we sign him.
655
00:34:20,225 --> 00:34:21,841
[TRENT] He was a really smart guy
656
00:34:21,935 --> 00:34:24,472
that I thought was making
really compelling music, you know,
657
00:34:24,563 --> 00:34:25,644
and believed it.
658
00:34:25,981 --> 00:34:28,222
Were we both 100% aware
659
00:34:28,316 --> 00:34:31,525
that we were using mechanisms
to shock people?
660
00:34:31,611 --> 00:34:32,976
Yeah, of course we did.
661
00:34:33,572 --> 00:34:34,966
♪ [SNOOP DOGG] ♪
♪ This is for the G's ♪
662
00:34:34,990 --> 00:34:36,572
♪ And this is for the hustlas ♪
663
00:34:36,658 --> 00:34:38,774
♪ This is for the hustlas ♪
♪ Now back to the G's ♪
664
00:34:39,244 --> 00:34:42,612
[TRENT] So, we were looking at some houses
to rent to set up studio in a house,
665
00:34:42,706 --> 00:34:43,849
'cause that's what we wanted to do,
666
00:34:43,873 --> 00:34:47,457
just live and breathe and constantly
make music and see what happens.
667
00:34:47,544 --> 00:34:49,751
- And one house in particular...
- [DOG BARKING]
668
00:34:49,838 --> 00:34:52,421
Which happens to be the cheapest,
was on Cielo Drive.
669
00:34:53,008 --> 00:34:56,251
Nice yard, beautiful view,
you know, peaceful vibe.
670
00:34:56,344 --> 00:35:01,180
Then to find out that's where
the Manson-Tate murders took place.
671
00:35:02,684 --> 00:35:05,142
And thought,
Well, fuck it, let's rent that house.
672
00:35:06,187 --> 00:35:09,930
[JIMMY] So, Dre had Snoop,
and Trent had Marilyn Manson.
673
00:35:10,108 --> 00:35:12,520
And when you have great artists like that,
674
00:35:12,611 --> 00:35:16,980
you want their message
and what they're doing as pure as possible.
675
00:35:17,073 --> 00:35:21,112
What you do is you give them the keys
and you say, Drive.
676
00:35:21,202 --> 00:35:23,443
♪ You let me violate you ♪
677
00:35:23,538 --> 00:35:26,781
[DR. DRE] Back at that time, I loved
fast cars. I had a white Testarossa.
678
00:35:26,875 --> 00:35:29,537
♪ You let me desecrate you ♪
679
00:35:29,836 --> 00:35:31,793
[DR. DRE] Ispeed out on Wilshire Boulevard.
680
00:35:31,963 --> 00:35:34,125
♪ You let me penetrate you ♪
681
00:35:34,215 --> 00:35:35,546
[DR. DRE] A cop gets behind me.
682
00:35:36,259 --> 00:35:37,259
Woop, woop.
683
00:35:37,427 --> 00:35:39,213
♪ You let me complicate you ♪
684
00:35:39,804 --> 00:35:42,341
I put it in gear and I take off.
685
00:35:42,474 --> 00:35:46,308
♪ Help me. I broke apart my insides ♪
686
00:35:48,813 --> 00:35:53,432
[DR. DRE] Somewhere between 100, 120 miles
an hour, I see more lights behind me.
687
00:35:53,568 --> 00:35:56,060
So, I decide I wanna go a little faster.
688
00:35:56,905 --> 00:35:58,395
Now, I'm in a high-speed chase.
689
00:35:58,490 --> 00:36:00,652
♪ Help me get away from myself ♪
690
00:36:00,742 --> 00:36:02,702
I don't know what he was doing.
It was ridiculous.
691
00:36:06,706 --> 00:36:10,665
♪ I want to feel you from the inside ♪
692
00:36:11,711 --> 00:36:15,420
♪ I want to fuck you like an animal ♪
693
00:36:17,384 --> 00:36:20,217
♪ My whole existence is flawed ♪
694
00:36:22,639 --> 00:36:25,631
♪ You get me closer to God ♪
695
00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:40,312
Andre got into the high-speed chase
in that Ferrari
696
00:36:40,407 --> 00:36:42,614
about a year
697
00:36:42,701 --> 00:36:46,114
into us dating.
698
00:36:46,538 --> 00:36:49,621
I suppose I was innocent and naive
699
00:36:49,708 --> 00:36:53,793
about all of the stuff
that has to do with Dr. Dre.
700
00:36:54,462 --> 00:36:57,955
I loved that he was
confident and yet humble.
701
00:36:58,049 --> 00:36:59,631
It's such a great combination.
702
00:36:59,884 --> 00:37:02,626
We were incredibly compatible.
703
00:37:02,971 --> 00:37:06,635
But my family and friends were leery
704
00:37:06,725 --> 00:37:10,138
because they only knew Andre
through media.
705
00:37:10,228 --> 00:37:12,435
They didn't know the Andre that I knew.
706
00:37:13,356 --> 00:37:18,601
But I think a persona was connected to him
that wasn't true.
707
00:37:18,695 --> 00:37:20,106
They knew Dr. Dre.
708
00:37:20,321 --> 00:37:23,439
Her family is giving her pressure about me
709
00:37:23,533 --> 00:37:27,117
because they're reading about a lot of
the bullshit that was happening with me.
710
00:37:27,704 --> 00:37:31,368
And the fucked-up part about that is,
we'd just started dating when...
711
00:37:33,710 --> 00:37:36,168
I had to turn myself in for five months.
712
00:37:51,811 --> 00:37:52,846
Money.
713
00:37:55,774 --> 00:37:57,418
[DR. DRE] Hey, hey.
[COREY HAWKINS] There he is.
714
00:37:57,442 --> 00:37:58,502
[DR. DRE] What's up with it?
715
00:37:58,526 --> 00:37:59,526
There he is.
716
00:37:59,569 --> 00:38:00,629
- How you doing, man?
- I'm good.
717
00:38:00,653 --> 00:38:03,987
- How you doin'?
- I don't know. It's bittersweet. [LAUGHS]
718
00:38:04,073 --> 00:38:05,154
Last night, huh?
719
00:38:05,241 --> 00:38:07,528
- Say hi to Mr. Young again.
- Hi. How you doing?
720
00:38:07,619 --> 00:38:08,939
- You coming to the party?
- Yeah.
721
00:38:08,995 --> 00:38:09,995
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
722
00:38:11,289 --> 00:38:12,620
All right.
723
00:38:14,083 --> 00:38:17,121
This is the last night of shooting.
I'm excited.
724
00:38:17,378 --> 00:38:20,245
Yeah, I told her you're gonna learn
a lot about Dad. [LAUGHS]
725
00:38:20,340 --> 00:38:22,251
- [COREY] What have you learned?
- A lot.
726
00:38:22,550 --> 00:38:24,040
[LAUGHING]
727
00:38:24,844 --> 00:38:29,054
- I might go to the studio tonight after the set.
- [COREY] I might follow you.
728
00:38:29,224 --> 00:38:30,635
I have no idea what I'm doing.
729
00:38:33,019 --> 00:38:34,635
[MAN] People that inspire you
730
00:38:34,729 --> 00:38:37,892
may not necessarily be the nicest people
to be around.
731
00:38:37,982 --> 00:38:38,982
Yeah.
732
00:38:39,067 --> 00:38:41,559
Yet they inspire you. Right?
733
00:38:41,945 --> 00:38:45,313
- It's a hell of a motherfucking gray area.
- Yeah.
734
00:38:45,406 --> 00:38:47,818
You know?
And you gotta be vigilant about...
735
00:38:47,909 --> 00:38:49,570
[DR. DRE] What's important right now
736
00:38:49,661 --> 00:38:52,323
- are the fills at bar two and bar four.
- [SUGE] Okay.
737
00:38:52,413 --> 00:38:55,326
- Light ones at two, you know what I mean?
- Okay, let me do a take...
738
00:38:55,416 --> 00:38:57,248
- And then stronger ones at eight.
- Okay.
739
00:38:57,585 --> 00:38:58,916
[VOCALIZING]
740
00:38:59,921 --> 00:39:01,753
- [SUGE] Okay.
- [DR. DRE] Or... [VOCALIZING]
741
00:39:02,173 --> 00:39:03,275
[SUGE] Okay, see which one. Okay.
742
00:39:03,299 --> 00:39:04,568
Every now and then, switch it up-
743
00:39:04,592 --> 00:39:05,707
Okay, Okay-
744
00:39:06,761 --> 00:39:08,217
[MUSIC PLAYING]
745
00:39:14,435 --> 00:39:16,435
[DR. DRE] I'm not feeling
the snare drum sound yet.
746
00:39:23,987 --> 00:39:25,273
Punch in a little bit later.
747
00:39:27,699 --> 00:39:29,281
Make me feel it, Suge.
748
00:39:29,659 --> 00:39:31,696
What happened to that crash, Suge?
749
00:39:33,580 --> 00:39:36,117
I need something a little
bit more impressive.
750
00:39:36,332 --> 00:39:37,663
[SNARE DRUM PLAYING]
751
00:39:46,885 --> 00:39:48,341
[SNARE STOPS]
752
00:40:00,356 --> 00:40:02,518
♪ I shall not fear no man but God ♪
753
00:40:03,026 --> 00:40:04,826
♪ Though I walk through ♪
♪ the valley of death ♪
754
00:40:05,862 --> 00:40:06,943
♪ I shed so many tears ♪
755
00:40:07,030 --> 00:40:08,646
♪ If I should die before I wake ♪
756
00:40:09,157 --> 00:40:11,649
♪ Please God walk with me Grab ♪
♪ a nigga and take me to heaven ♪
757
00:40:16,039 --> 00:40:18,872
♪ Back in elementary I thrived on misery ♪
758
00:40:19,167 --> 00:40:21,704
♪ Left me alone I grew up ♪
♪ Amongst a dyin' breed ♪
759
00:40:21,794 --> 00:40:24,035
♪ Inside my mind couldn't ♪
♪ find a place to rest ♪
760
00:40:24,130 --> 00:40:26,588
♪ Until I got that Thug ♪
♪ Life Tatted on my chest ♪
761
00:40:26,674 --> 00:40:30,292
♪ Tell me can you feel me? I'm not ♪
♪ livin' in the past, you wanna last ♪
762
00:40:30,678 --> 00:40:32,635
♪ Be the first to blast, remember Kato ♪
763
00:40:32,847 --> 00:40:34,303
♪ No longer with us, he's deceased ♪
764
00:40:34,390 --> 00:40:36,677
♪ Call in the sirens. ♪
♪ Seen him murdered in the streets ♪
765
00:40:36,768 --> 00:40:37,768
♪ Now rest in peace ♪
766
00:40:37,936 --> 00:40:40,177
♪ Is there heaven for a G? Remember me ♪
767
00:40:40,521 --> 00:40:43,513
♪ So many homies in the ♪
♪ cemetery Shed so many tears ♪
768
00:40:45,818 --> 00:40:48,150
♪ I suffered through the ♪
♪ years And shed so many tears ♪
769
00:40:48,571 --> 00:40:50,174
[JIMMY] Five years
before he was on Death Row,
770
00:40:50,198 --> 00:40:52,530
Tupac was on Interscope
and did three albums.
771
00:40:52,617 --> 00:40:56,201
In the beginning, it was a social
class thing that he was confronting.
772
00:40:56,704 --> 00:41:00,038
He really wanted to represent
disillusioned youth.
773
00:41:00,124 --> 00:41:02,582
[TU PAC] This world is such a
Gimme, gimme, gimme.
774
00:41:02,669 --> 00:41:04,897
You know, everybody's, like,
you're taught that from school...
775
00:41:04,921 --> 00:41:08,630
Everywhere, big business. You wanna be
successful, you wanna be like Trump?
776
00:41:08,716 --> 00:41:12,175
Gimme, gimme, gimme, push, push, push, push,
step, step, step, crush, crush, crush.
777
00:41:12,261 --> 00:41:16,755
I mean, can you imagine
somebody havin' $32 million?
778
00:41:17,225 --> 00:41:20,092
Thirty-two. $32 million.
779
00:41:20,186 --> 00:41:23,929
And this person has nothing?
And you can sleep?
780
00:41:24,357 --> 00:41:27,440
[WHALLEY] It was the systems
that prevented the poor
781
00:41:27,527 --> 00:41:30,770
from finding opportunity in life
that he was confronting.
782
00:41:31,406 --> 00:41:35,866
And what made him great
is that he was highly emotional.
783
00:41:35,952 --> 00:41:38,785
But all of a sudden, things went strange.
784
00:41:39,247 --> 00:41:41,363
[MALE REPORTER]
Shakur is no stranger to violence.
785
00:41:41,499 --> 00:41:46,118
In November 1994, he was shot during
a robbery at a Manhattan recording studio.
786
00:41:46,713 --> 00:41:49,626
$40,000 worth of jewelry
was taken from him.
787
00:41:49,757 --> 00:41:52,465
He also has a rap sheet
as long as some of his songs.
788
00:41:52,552 --> 00:41:55,260
This was his reaction
after his latest conviction.
789
00:41:55,388 --> 00:41:59,507
Nothin' the court can do can punish me
more than I've been punished already.
790
00:41:59,934 --> 00:42:02,392
- [FEMALE REPORTER] In what way?
- By bein' shot five times.
791
00:42:02,478 --> 00:42:05,457
Twice in the... I mean, nothin' the judge
could tell me coulda made me not wanna
792
00:42:05,481 --> 00:42:07,188
carry a gun more than gettin' shot.
793
00:42:07,275 --> 00:42:09,391
So, I'm pickin' up, feel me?
794
00:42:13,281 --> 00:42:15,693
[DOUG] These kids were real.
This stuff was really real.
795
00:42:15,783 --> 00:42:17,303
And we were right in the middle of it.
796
00:42:18,745 --> 00:42:21,407
When you take those extremes
and you nurture them
797
00:42:22,206 --> 00:42:24,868
and not interfere with what they're doing,
798
00:42:25,835 --> 00:42:27,872
the potential is limitless.
799
00:42:28,796 --> 00:42:32,585
And that's what Interscope was about,
empowering those artists.
800
00:42:36,971 --> 00:42:38,699
[DOUG] And I'll tell you
what we got from it.
801
00:42:38,723 --> 00:42:41,431
We got some anxiety,
we got a lot of laughs.
802
00:42:41,893 --> 00:42:44,476
And we huddled in the foxhole.
803
00:42:45,813 --> 00:42:47,929
♪ And I don't want you ♪
♪ and I don't need you ♪
804
00:42:49,317 --> 00:42:52,150
♪ Don't bother to resist, ♪
♪ or I'll beat you ♪
805
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,561
♪ It's not your fault ♪
♪ that you're always wrong ♪
806
00:42:55,448 --> 00:42:57,985
♪ The weak ones are there ♪
♪ To justify the strong ♪
807
00:42:58,826 --> 00:43:01,238
♪ The beautiful people, ♪
♪ the beautiful people ♪
808
00:43:01,704 --> 00:43:04,992
♪ It's all relative to ♪
♪ the size of your steeple ♪
809
00:43:05,166 --> 00:43:07,828
♪ You can't see the forest for the trees ♪
810
00:43:08,169 --> 00:43:11,662
♪ And you can't smell your ♪
♪ own shit on your knees ♪
811
00:43:13,424 --> 00:43:16,792
[MALE REPORTER] Marilyn Manson, the most
controversial act on the road today,
812
00:43:16,886 --> 00:43:19,594
coming to a sold-out arena near you.
813
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,159
[MALE REPORTER 2] He is causing
cultural fights all over the country.
814
00:43:22,183 --> 00:43:24,515
Marilyn Manson is evil.
815
00:43:25,186 --> 00:43:27,678
♪ Hey you, what do you see? ♪
816
00:43:27,772 --> 00:43:31,811
[MALE REPORTER 3] In every city, Manson's
arrival stirs protests and angry headlines.
817
00:43:31,901 --> 00:43:36,236
I've always identified with the character
of Lucifer in the Bible.
818
00:43:36,489 --> 00:43:38,025
[MAN] We are here to worship Satan.
819
00:43:38,658 --> 00:43:41,195
Criminal charges can be a career ender.
820
00:43:41,994 --> 00:43:44,452
But not in the case of Snoop Doggy Dogg.
821
00:43:45,248 --> 00:43:48,036
Some accuse the rapper of making crime pay.
822
00:43:48,668 --> 00:43:52,127
Murder sells, that's why people
do videos on sex and murder.
823
00:43:52,213 --> 00:43:53,440
[COHEN] From our point of view,
824
00:43:53,464 --> 00:43:55,796
everybody had the right to say
what they were saying
825
00:43:55,883 --> 00:43:57,749
as long as they weren't breaking the law.
826
00:43:58,761 --> 00:44:01,048
If anything, we were always
trying to calm things down.
827
00:44:02,223 --> 00:44:04,260
It was just impossible.
828
00:44:08,062 --> 00:44:10,040
Some of y'all don't appreciate
what we talkin' about.
829
00:44:10,064 --> 00:44:11,864
But this is the only way
we got to make money.
830
00:44:11,941 --> 00:44:13,919
And if you don't let me
make my money on the street,
831
00:44:13,943 --> 00:44:17,061
I guarantee you,
I will make my money on the street.
832
00:44:17,697 --> 00:44:20,860
The rap star Tupac Shakur
is free on bond tonight
833
00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:22,691
after his arrest this weekend in Atlanta.
834
00:44:22,785 --> 00:44:25,743
Charged with shooting
two off-duty police officers.
835
00:44:25,830 --> 00:44:28,183
[FEMALE REPORTER] He had been criticized
for anti-police lyrics.
836
00:44:28,207 --> 00:44:29,868
[TU PAC] I don't gotta be a role model.
837
00:44:29,959 --> 00:44:32,041
I don't gotta hold your hand.
I don't gotta do shit.
838
00:44:41,637 --> 00:44:45,596
[MALE REPORTER] Marilyn Manson's
latest album recently went triple platinum.
839
00:44:45,683 --> 00:44:47,924
[CONGRESSMAN] And on the next page,
the words go,
840
00:44:49,103 --> 00:44:50,935
It's not about East or West.
841
00:44:52,481 --> 00:44:54,392
It's about niggas and bitches,
842
00:44:55,610 --> 00:44:57,567
power and money,
843
00:44:58,821 --> 00:45:00,061
riders and punks.
844
00:45:01,949 --> 00:45:03,531
Which side are you on?
845
00:45:03,618 --> 00:45:05,700
And there's the sound
of a gun cocking and firing.
846
00:45:07,663 --> 00:45:08,663
[ELECTRICITY CRACKLING]
847
00:45:19,175 --> 00:45:20,175
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
848
00:45:21,219 --> 00:45:22,219
And it ain't over!
849
00:45:22,386 --> 00:45:24,798
♪ The beautiful people, ♪
♪ the beautiful people ♪
850
00:45:25,389 --> 00:45:27,801
♪ The beautiful people, ♪
♪ the beautiful people ♪
851
00:45:28,976 --> 00:45:31,388
♪ The beautiful people, ♪
♪ the beautiful people ♪
852
00:45:32,104 --> 00:45:34,516
♪ The beautiful people, ♪
♪ the beautiful people ♪
853
00:45:39,153 --> 00:45:43,192
[TU PAC] Happy New Year to you, too.
You did your job. I'm outta money.
854
00:45:43,282 --> 00:45:45,398
I'm outta all my resources.
855
00:45:45,493 --> 00:45:47,700
You made me look like
the bad guy in my own community,
856
00:45:47,787 --> 00:45:49,243
and I appreciate it.
857
00:45:49,664 --> 00:45:51,996
[CONGRESSMAN]
These niggas are still fucking talkin'.
858
00:45:52,792 --> 00:45:54,408
You niggas still breathing.
859
00:45:54,502 --> 00:45:55,833
Fuckin' roaches.
860
00:46:06,264 --> 00:46:07,720
[CHATTER ON RADIO]
861
00:46:09,475 --> 00:46:10,965
[BEEPING]
862
00:46:30,579 --> 00:46:33,788
[JIMMY] New York Times magazine section
did a story on me.
863
00:46:33,874 --> 00:46:36,411
And from what I understand,
this guy, Jonathan Leo,
864
00:46:36,544 --> 00:46:38,410
was at someone's house in the Hamptons.
865
00:46:38,713 --> 00:46:39,713
And they were saying,
866
00:46:39,797 --> 00:46:42,539
Who are the most disgusting
purveyors of shmut in the world?
867
00:46:42,842 --> 00:46:45,459
So, this guy Jonathan Leo says,
Look what Time Warner's doin'.
868
00:46:45,553 --> 00:46:51,094
They just bought 25% of this guy's
record company for $100 million.
869
00:46:51,183 --> 00:46:54,517
So, the next day,
in U. S. News and World Report,
870
00:46:54,603 --> 00:46:56,469
he wrote a story sayin',
871
00:46:56,564 --> 00:47:03,357
Time Warner buying 25% of Interscope is
like buying 25% of a mustard gas factory.
872
00:47:04,071 --> 00:47:07,359
So, I'm like, Oh, man. Here we go.
873
00:47:13,497 --> 00:47:16,239
There has never been a time
in the history of the world
874
00:47:16,334 --> 00:47:19,497
that so much sex and violence
masquerading as entertainment
875
00:47:19,587 --> 00:47:22,921
has been easily and readily available
to so many people.
876
00:47:23,299 --> 00:47:24,299
Never.
877
00:47:24,759 --> 00:47:27,922
We do have a responsibility to assess
the impact of your work
878
00:47:28,554 --> 00:47:30,670
and to understand the damage that comes
879
00:47:30,765 --> 00:47:34,383
from the incessant, repetitive,
mindless violence
880
00:47:34,477 --> 00:47:38,971
and irresponsible conduct that
permeates our media all the time.
881
00:47:39,815 --> 00:47:41,126
[BOB DOLE] A line has been crossed.
882
00:47:41,150 --> 00:47:44,939
Not just of taste,
but of human dignity and decency.
883
00:47:45,029 --> 00:47:48,818
You don't have to degrade our women.
884
00:47:49,033 --> 00:47:52,651
To kill people, to disrespect each other,
well, it's not all right.
885
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:54,861
Those who pay them have a responsibility.
886
00:47:54,955 --> 00:47:58,573
The corporate executives who hide behind
the lofty language of free speech
887
00:47:58,667 --> 00:47:59,782
should understand this,
888
00:47:59,877 --> 00:48:03,711
we will name their names and shame them
as they deserve to be shamed.
889
00:48:03,798 --> 00:48:04,858
- Time Warner.
- Time Warner.
890
00:48:04,882 --> 00:48:06,026
[MAN] Time Warner's the biggest.
891
00:48:06,050 --> 00:48:08,007
Time Warner owns a company
called lnterscope.
892
00:48:08,177 --> 00:48:10,384
The Death Row lnterscope coup.
893
00:48:10,471 --> 00:48:11,990
[BOB DOLE] Which columnist
John Leo called
894
00:48:12,014 --> 00:48:15,803
the cultural equivalent of owning half
the world's mustard gas factories.
895
00:48:15,935 --> 00:48:19,473
To me, this music is the equivalent of
yelling Fire in a crowded theater.
896
00:48:19,814 --> 00:48:23,057
The fire starts.
Meanwhile, simultaneously...
897
00:48:23,150 --> 00:48:26,017
The media and entertainment industries
are buzzing over what may become
898
00:48:26,112 --> 00:48:28,524
the third mega-media merger of the summer.
899
00:48:28,614 --> 00:48:31,572
The deal would create the biggest
media company in the world.
900
00:48:31,659 --> 00:48:34,572
But both sides say there are still
major issues to be worked out.
901
00:48:34,662 --> 00:48:37,120
Because of the proposed merger with Turner,
902
00:48:37,206 --> 00:48:40,995
Time Warner needs tremendous amounts
of regulatory approval,
903
00:48:41,085 --> 00:48:43,747
and wanna be looked
at with a great deal of favor.
904
00:48:44,088 --> 00:48:46,733
[JIMMY] Jerry Levin called me in his office
in the height of the insanity.
905
00:48:46,757 --> 00:48:48,418
And Jerry was a very decent man.
906
00:48:48,509 --> 00:48:49,920
He was the CEO of Time Warner.
907
00:48:50,010 --> 00:48:53,878
He said, Jimmy, my son teaches
with Tupac's lyrics in Harlem.
908
00:48:54,098 --> 00:48:56,465
I get it. He said, I got a problem.
909
00:48:56,559 --> 00:48:59,847
Dole has got the cable bill
and I need his help.
910
00:48:59,937 --> 00:49:02,178
And I gotta sacrifice somethin'.
911
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:06,024
So, I said, That sounds reasonable.
But that's his problem.
912
00:49:06,110 --> 00:49:07,546
[MALE REPORTER]
All this means continuing headaches
913
00:49:07,570 --> 00:49:10,688
for new Time Warner Music Group chairman,
Michael Fuchs.
914
00:49:10,781 --> 00:49:15,400
I was coming into chaos.
This is probably why I was given the job.
915
00:49:16,287 --> 00:49:19,200
The board was sick of what was goin' on.
916
00:49:19,540 --> 00:49:22,532
So, I was told, It's time to clean house.
917
00:49:23,794 --> 00:49:27,253
Maybe they thought I should be more
respectful or something, you know.
918
00:49:27,339 --> 00:49:29,125
[JIMMY] We meet with Michael Fuchs.
919
00:49:29,216 --> 00:49:33,380
He says, The next six months, I'm gonna
evaluate each and every one of you.
920
00:49:33,471 --> 00:49:34,711
And he points to me as well.
921
00:49:34,805 --> 00:49:37,046
And he goes,
I'm the Michael Jordan of management.
922
00:49:37,975 --> 00:49:41,218
So, I look at Michael Fuchs and I said,
But Michael, this is baseball.
923
00:49:41,562 --> 00:49:43,098
This guy went nuclear.
924
00:49:43,647 --> 00:49:46,685
JIM MORET: Time Warner's music division
has been in turmoil for months.
925
00:49:47,026 --> 00:49:49,688
Heads have been rolling
as the new boss cleans house
926
00:49:49,778 --> 00:49:53,146
while the company remains under attack
from foes of gangsta rap music.
927
00:49:53,240 --> 00:49:56,699
Fuchs spent the summer ousting
the rap label's defender, Doug Morris,
928
00:49:56,785 --> 00:49:58,776
from his chief executive post.
929
00:49:58,871 --> 00:50:00,487
Michael Fuchs just panicked.
930
00:50:00,581 --> 00:50:01,821
[FUCHS] I fired Doug.
931
00:50:01,916 --> 00:50:05,910
I felt there was a loyalty
to the music industry,
932
00:50:06,003 --> 00:50:08,836
but not necessarily loyalty to the company.
933
00:50:09,089 --> 00:50:10,204
We were doin' great.
934
00:50:10,299 --> 00:50:14,509
And suddenly, we're out the window,
goin' splat on the pavement.
935
00:50:14,595 --> 00:50:18,304
Not him. Me first.
I hated the fact that it was me first.
936
00:50:18,599 --> 00:50:21,261
The music business is very tight.
937
00:50:21,852 --> 00:50:23,889
Tight like a pack of thieves, you know.
938
00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:27,894
You got some guys from Brooklyn
in this war with all of these
939
00:50:27,983 --> 00:50:31,021
enormously powerful entities.
940
00:50:31,820 --> 00:50:35,154
And Time Warner's first instinct
941
00:50:35,241 --> 00:50:39,280
was to buy the whole thing
and attempt to clean it up,
942
00:50:39,370 --> 00:50:42,453
Death Row Records, which was an absurdity.
943
00:50:56,845 --> 00:50:59,045
[JIMMY] I get a phone call at midnight
from Suge Knight.
944
00:50:59,348 --> 00:51:02,306
And he says to me,
Yo, who's the guy we hate at Time Warner?
945
00:51:02,434 --> 00:51:04,454
I said, Michael Fuchs.
He goes, Yeah, that's him.
946
00:51:04,478 --> 00:51:08,142
They want me to meet him
and Melba Moore and Dionne Warwick
947
00:51:08,232 --> 00:51:11,020
at Dionne's house tomorrow morning.
948
00:51:11,819 --> 00:51:14,561
I said, Where? Who?
949
00:51:15,281 --> 00:51:18,819
Melba Moore and Dionne Wan/vick
and Michael Fuchs?
950
00:51:18,993 --> 00:51:19,993
Yeah.
951
00:51:20,077 --> 00:51:21,638
And they're gettin' the mayor
of Compton to come.
952
00:51:21,662 --> 00:51:24,871
I'm like,
What the fuck is this guy doing?
953
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,453
I was told to police the
lyrics a little more.
954
00:51:29,211 --> 00:51:31,451
[JIMMY] Michael Fuchs wants to
talk to me about a deal.
955
00:51:31,672 --> 00:51:34,539
[FUCHS] Dionne Warwick said, Fly out here.
956
00:51:34,633 --> 00:51:37,045
Suge's like my nephew.
He lives in the neighborhood.
957
00:51:37,177 --> 00:51:39,669
He'll come over.
You'll talk about things.
958
00:51:39,847 --> 00:51:44,842
I'm a partner of his.
We own the label as much as he does.
959
00:51:45,227 --> 00:51:48,845
For him to fly out and meet with
one of our major labels
960
00:51:48,939 --> 00:51:53,354
without calling us is unacceptable
in any form of business.
961
00:51:53,652 --> 00:51:54,767
So, I call Suge.
962
00:51:54,862 --> 00:51:58,526
I said, Suge, meet me tomorrow morning
at Jerry's Deli at 8:00.
963
00:51:59,033 --> 00:52:00,523
So, I go to Jerry's Deli.
964
00:52:00,618 --> 00:52:03,201
I meet Suge and David Kenner,
Suge's lawyer.
965
00:52:03,871 --> 00:52:06,738
And I know that if
Suge walks into that meeting,
966
00:52:06,832 --> 00:52:11,167
Michael Fuchs, he would do anything
to either put Interscope outta business
967
00:52:11,253 --> 00:52:13,585
or get this thing done with these lyrics.
968
00:52:13,839 --> 00:52:16,831
So, Suge and I were gonna stay in
that restaurant with David Kenner
969
00:52:16,925 --> 00:52:20,008
and just wait until Michael Fuchs left.
970
00:52:20,220 --> 00:52:22,211
Dionne kept tryin' to call Suge.
971
00:52:22,306 --> 00:52:23,491
[JIMMY] And Suge was incredible.
972
00:52:23,515 --> 00:52:26,223
So, every time Warwick would call and say,
973
00:52:26,393 --> 00:52:27,787
Hi, baby, when are you getting here?
974
00:52:27,811 --> 00:52:30,553
He would say, I'm down the street,
and hang up.
975
00:52:30,689 --> 00:52:36,025
And he'd say, I'll take a chicken breast,
Cheerios. And another hour passed.
976
00:52:36,737 --> 00:52:40,071
Hey, where are you? I'm almost there.
I'm at the light. By 3:00...
977
00:52:40,282 --> 00:52:42,740
I realized Jimmy was hostile.
978
00:52:42,951 --> 00:52:46,410
[JIMMY] She says, Michael said if you guys
want more money, it's cool.
979
00:52:46,747 --> 00:52:48,579
He goes, Yeah, I'm on my way.
980
00:52:49,041 --> 00:52:50,623
And he never goes.
981
00:52:50,709 --> 00:52:52,395
G RU BMAN:
I don't even think it was just money.
982
00:52:52,419 --> 00:52:54,001
I think it's a matter of principle.
983
00:52:54,088 --> 00:52:56,204
By taking their money,
he would've lost control.
984
00:52:56,298 --> 00:52:58,380
[JIMMY] By 5:00, Fuchs had to leave.
985
00:52:58,550 --> 00:53:00,587
Who had time for that?
986
00:53:00,844 --> 00:53:05,304
So, she calls up, You embarrassed me.
What are you doing? I looked foolish.
987
00:53:05,391 --> 00:53:07,974
And Suge looks at the phone
and goes, Hey, you're the psychic.
988
00:53:08,060 --> 00:53:09,846
How come you didn't know
I wasn't comin'?
989
00:53:09,937 --> 00:53:10,937
And hangs up.
990
00:53:11,146 --> 00:53:13,262
[PHONE RINGING]
991
00:53:15,776 --> 00:53:16,937
Don't worry about this.
992
00:53:18,612 --> 00:53:19,852
[MAN] Over there.
993
00:53:19,947 --> 00:53:21,547
[FEMALE REPORTER] So, you're saying that
994
00:53:21,573 --> 00:53:24,440
Death Row does not present
any negative images to black youth?
995
00:53:24,993 --> 00:53:26,734
No, I think it's a positive image.
996
00:53:27,121 --> 00:53:29,328
I think Death Row's
real positive to black youth.
997
00:53:30,457 --> 00:53:32,789
I mean, it's lettin' people know
that you can be yourself
998
00:53:32,876 --> 00:53:35,584
and still be a child of God
and still be successful.
999
00:53:45,013 --> 00:53:47,300
[INDISTINCT RADIO CHATTER]
1000
00:53:52,688 --> 00:53:54,178
[DR. DRE] 1995.
1001
00:53:55,649 --> 00:53:59,017
It was such a transitional period for me.
1002
00:54:00,988 --> 00:54:03,980
When I was in jail,
bein' isolated like that
1003
00:54:04,491 --> 00:54:08,200
and not havin' anything to do
except think for five months,
1004
00:54:09,830 --> 00:54:13,915
it forced me to reflect and think about
the people that were around me,
1005
00:54:14,001 --> 00:54:16,709
were they helpin' me?
Were they friends or foes?
1006
00:54:19,757 --> 00:54:23,625
It also gave me the opportunity to realize
1007
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,302
how much Nicole was in love with me
1008
00:54:26,388 --> 00:54:28,254
and how much I was in love with her.
1009
00:54:29,224 --> 00:54:32,933
Her visits were so important,
because she didn't have to do that.
1010
00:54:33,020 --> 00:54:34,761
We'd just started datin'.
1011
00:54:34,855 --> 00:54:37,347
She could've said, Fuck you.
You're in jail.
1012
00:54:38,192 --> 00:54:40,149
She was just there for me.
1013
00:54:49,286 --> 00:54:51,448
And then Eazy dies.
1014
00:54:51,538 --> 00:54:54,781
And, you know, me and him
had been talkin' about gettin' together,
1015
00:54:54,875 --> 00:54:57,583
doin' music again, but...
1016
00:54:58,962 --> 00:55:03,707
I got to the hospital, and I saw Cube.
1017
00:55:03,801 --> 00:55:04,836
Me and him embrace.
1018
00:55:04,927 --> 00:55:08,136
We hadn't seen each other in a long time,
you know, throughout all the bullshit.
1019
00:55:08,222 --> 00:55:10,304
We hadn't seen each
other until that moment.
1020
00:55:10,724 --> 00:55:13,466
And I went up to see E.
1021
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:18,054
He was just la yin' there with this machine
breathin' for him, this tube in his mouth-
1022
00:55:18,565 --> 00:55:21,648
And it was really fuckin' me up, man.
1023
00:55:21,735 --> 00:55:23,271
It tripped me out a little bit.
1024
00:55:23,362 --> 00:55:26,320
So, I reached over and
said a couple of words to him,
1025
00:55:26,406 --> 00:55:28,363
spoke a few words in his ear, and...
1026
00:55:29,409 --> 00:55:33,073
That was that. I left.
That was the last time I saw him.
1027
00:55:36,792 --> 00:55:39,409
You know, all these things
happened around the same time.
1028
00:55:39,503 --> 00:55:41,523
And I would say it was
probably in a month's period.
1029
00:55:41,547 --> 00:55:43,083
It was a lot to deal with.
1030
00:55:43,465 --> 00:55:46,708
And then we had the 1995 Source Awards.
1031
00:55:47,553 --> 00:55:48,714
That shit was crazy.
1032
00:55:49,638 --> 00:55:51,299
[MUSIC PLAYING]
1033
00:55:51,390 --> 00:55:55,349
♪ It's the motherfuckin' D-R-E Dr. Dre, ♪
♪ motherfucker ♪
1034
00:55:56,311 --> 00:55:58,151
♪ You know I'm mobbin' ♪
♪ With the D-O-double-G ♪
1035
00:55:58,188 --> 00:55:59,188
♪ Say what? ♪
1036
00:55:59,273 --> 00:56:01,073
♪ Straight off the ♪
♪ fuckin' streets of C-P-T ♪
1037
00:56:01,275 --> 00:56:03,642
♪ King of the beats. ♪
♪ You ride to 'em in your Fleet ♪
1038
00:56:03,735 --> 00:56:04,770
♪ Fleetwood ♪
1039
00:56:04,862 --> 00:56:06,256
♪ Or Coupe De Ville rollin' on dubs ♪
1040
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,272
♪ Now how you feelin' ♪
♪ whoopty whoop Nigga what? ♪
1041
00:56:09,366 --> 00:56:10,366
Okay, I'm good.
1042
00:56:10,868 --> 00:56:11,868
All right, cool.
1043
00:56:12,077 --> 00:56:15,390
[SNOOP DOGG] Twenty years ago, in this buildin'
right here, is where it all took place.
1044
00:56:15,414 --> 00:56:17,267
[DR. DRE] Ihaven't been in this
motherfucker since that day.
1045
00:56:17,291 --> 00:56:18,685
- [SNOOP DOGG] Are you serious?
- Yeah.
1046
00:56:18,709 --> 00:56:22,122
You know, that's the same spot that
Suge got up there and said that shit.
1047
00:56:22,212 --> 00:56:23,293
We were surrounded.
1048
00:56:23,380 --> 00:56:24,791
That guy. Oh, yeah, everything.
1049
00:56:25,966 --> 00:56:29,175
[NAS] When The Source Awards
was comin' up, the whole city was excited.
1050
00:56:29,428 --> 00:56:32,420
This was our Grammys, Oscars.
1051
00:56:32,514 --> 00:56:35,302
If you don't make your name today,
you don't exist.
1052
00:56:35,517 --> 00:56:37,428
[MUSIC PLAYING]
1053
00:56:38,145 --> 00:56:39,510
Yeah!
1054
00:56:40,063 --> 00:56:44,808
[NAS] At the time, Death Row was the
biggest money-maker in rap, hands down.
1055
00:56:44,902 --> 00:56:46,108
♪ Keep the hands raised! ♪
1056
00:56:46,278 --> 00:56:48,736
Death Row, we had our section right here.
1057
00:56:48,822 --> 00:56:51,860
Fifteen Bloods, 15 Crips,
associates and family members.
1058
00:56:51,992 --> 00:56:53,232
Fifty people total.
1059
00:56:53,327 --> 00:56:55,238
And then right here you had Queens,
1060
00:56:55,329 --> 00:56:58,697
Brooklyn on the side, Bronx behind us,
New Jersey, Staten Island.
1061
00:56:58,790 --> 00:57:00,656
Every part of New York
that you could imagine.
1062
00:57:01,168 --> 00:57:05,127
[DR. DRE] For me, it was the first time
the East Coast is really embracin'
1063
00:57:05,213 --> 00:57:06,920
what we're doin' on the West Coast.
1064
00:57:07,591 --> 00:57:10,083
[NAS] You know, New Yorkers
wasn't goin' platinum anymore,
1065
00:57:10,177 --> 00:57:13,340
because the generation
before us fizzlin' out.
1066
00:57:13,472 --> 00:57:15,839
But Bad Boy and Puffy were comin' up.
1067
00:57:16,350 --> 00:57:20,594
They were about to be
the next Death Row or bigger,
1068
00:57:20,687 --> 00:57:22,428
because Puff's a smart guy.
1069
00:57:22,522 --> 00:57:24,138
His ear is incredible.
1070
00:57:24,232 --> 00:57:26,872
[PUFFY] No... No phones allowed.
I need you to pay attention to me.
1071
00:57:26,944 --> 00:57:29,732
[NAS] And he fine-tuned the business side
more than anybody.
1072
00:57:30,322 --> 00:57:34,862
They need to see how meticulous I take
this flyness. You know what I'm sayin'?
1073
00:57:35,327 --> 00:57:36,327
I'm from the East Coast.
1074
00:57:36,370 --> 00:57:37,405
New York, New York.
1075
00:57:37,496 --> 00:57:40,216
New York in this motherfucker,
Harlem, New York, we up in this bitch.
1076
00:57:41,166 --> 00:57:44,625
Straight up Brooklyn in the house.
Representin '.
1077
00:57:46,046 --> 00:57:50,040
The entire night, the room
was electrified with tension.
1078
00:57:50,717 --> 00:57:52,583
Everybody knew there was
gonna be some shit
1079
00:57:52,678 --> 00:57:55,261
between the boroughs
comin' here to make a name.
1080
00:57:55,555 --> 00:57:59,344
The furthest thing from my mind
was any beef with Death Row.
1081
00:58:01,186 --> 00:58:04,929
[DR. DRE] And then Suge Knight walks
on stage
1082
00:58:05,023 --> 00:58:07,264
and says the most outrageous shit ever.
1083
00:58:07,901 --> 00:58:10,359
Just completely disrespects Puff.
1084
00:58:11,113 --> 00:58:12,945
[SUGE] The one other thing I'd like to say,
1085
00:58:13,031 --> 00:58:15,318
any artist out there wanna be an artist
1086
00:58:15,409 --> 00:58:16,945
and wanna stay a star
1087
00:58:17,035 --> 00:58:19,013
and don't wanna have to worry
about the executive producer
1088
00:58:19,037 --> 00:58:21,825
tlyin' to be all in the videos,
1089
00:58:21,915 --> 00:58:25,874
all on the records, dancin',
come to Death Row.
1090
00:58:26,086 --> 00:58:28,077
[AUDIENCE CHEERING]
1091
00:58:47,607 --> 00:58:49,598
I was like, Oh shit, he done fucked up.
1092
00:58:53,196 --> 00:58:58,441
For the spirit, we supporting him
and clappin' 'cause he's with us.
1093
00:58:58,660 --> 00:59:00,196
Yay.
1094
00:59:01,747 --> 00:59:03,107
But then the nigga start to think,
1095
00:59:03,165 --> 00:59:05,202
Well, what the fuck did
this nigga just say?
1096
00:59:05,292 --> 00:59:09,957
I thought it was gangsta
that he would be in New York and say that.
1097
00:59:10,047 --> 00:59:14,006
So, for a few seconds, I was lovin' it,
1098
00:59:14,092 --> 00:59:15,892
because I was like,
If we came here to rumble
1099
00:59:15,969 --> 00:59:18,085
let's turn this thing into a rumble.
1100
00:59:18,221 --> 00:59:21,430
That's the worst shit to do
is to disrespect a nigga in his home turf.
1101
00:59:21,516 --> 00:59:22,910
He's talking about me in the videos.
1102
00:59:22,934 --> 00:59:24,390
I'm like, FUCK him-
1103
00:59:24,478 --> 00:59:29,097
[DR. DRE] In my opinion, it made all
the New York niggas start comin' together.
1104
00:59:29,191 --> 00:59:30,793
[SNOOP DOGG] They loved us,
but when that moment happened
1105
00:59:30,817 --> 00:59:33,525
they hated the shit out of us,
just that quick. Like that.
1106
00:59:33,820 --> 00:59:35,402
It felt dangerous.
1107
00:59:35,906 --> 00:59:38,694
It felt like,
This shit is dangerous right here.
1108
00:59:39,034 --> 00:59:41,696
[SNOOP DOGG] It wasjust a room
full of pit bulls and gorillas.
1109
00:59:41,995 --> 00:59:44,236
This was niggas that was wild.
It was animals.
1110
00:59:44,331 --> 00:59:45,331
You know what I'm sayin'?
1111
00:59:45,373 --> 00:59:46,408
Hyenas.
1112
00:59:46,500 --> 00:59:48,603
We had a bunch of niggas with us
that was fresh outta the pen,
1113
00:59:48,627 --> 00:59:50,368
niggas with a lotta shit to prove.
1114
00:59:50,462 --> 00:59:52,874
You know, niggas
that just love gettin' active.
1115
00:59:52,964 --> 00:59:55,752
[DR. DRE] And it's thousands of
these niggas with guns and...
1116
00:59:55,842 --> 00:59:59,335
[NAS] Death Row had things on 'em,
Bad Boy had things on 'em.
1117
00:59:59,429 --> 01:00:01,921
I'm pretty sure Wu-Tang was prepared.
1118
01:00:02,015 --> 01:00:04,973
That night I saw the headlines next day,
1119
01:00:05,060 --> 01:00:10,396
Stupid Source Awards gathers up
stupid rappers, and they shot each other.
1120
01:00:11,817 --> 01:00:13,023
Rap is done.
1121
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:14,896
A bloodbath.
1122
01:00:14,986 --> 01:00:16,442
Winner is...
1123
01:00:17,114 --> 01:00:19,856
Uh-oh, we're gonna have some trouble here,
the D-R-E.
1124
01:00:20,951 --> 01:00:22,112
Dr. Dre.
1125
01:00:22,202 --> 01:00:25,035
[NAS] Then when Snoop got on stage
bandanna'd up, braids,
1126
01:00:25,122 --> 01:00:27,284
it looked like he came for war.
1127
01:00:27,374 --> 01:00:30,958
Wait, wait, wait, the East Coast
don't love Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg?
1128
01:00:32,295 --> 01:00:36,710
The East Coast ain't got no love
for Dr. Dre and Snoop Dogg and Death Row?
1129
01:00:37,008 --> 01:00:38,043
Y'all don't love us?
1130
01:00:39,261 --> 01:00:40,547
Y'all don't love us?
1131
01:00:41,054 --> 01:00:43,921
So, I'm like, ls he getting ready to say,
'Fuck New York'?
1132
01:00:44,516 --> 01:00:46,452
Well, let it be known, then,
we don't give a fuck.
1133
01:00:46,476 --> 01:00:47,807
We know y'all East Coast.
1134
01:00:47,894 --> 01:00:49,305
We know where the fuck we at.
1135
01:00:49,396 --> 01:00:51,076
The East Coast in the motherfucking house.
1136
01:00:54,192 --> 01:00:56,354
[SNOOP DOGG] You match aggression
with aggression.
1137
01:00:56,444 --> 01:01:00,187
But you match aggression
with aggression with love, with asking.
1138
01:01:00,282 --> 01:01:03,445
[NAS] Snoop had the power right there
to make it go either way.
1139
01:01:03,577 --> 01:01:07,070
And nigga said, You know what,
for the sake of what that nigga just said,
1140
01:01:07,581 --> 01:01:09,868
we're gonna let y'all walk up outta here.
1141
01:01:09,958 --> 01:01:12,541
But, nigga, y'all better hurry up
and get the fuck outta here.
1142
01:01:16,590 --> 01:01:18,710
[JIMMY] So, when all this stuff is going on
in Warner,
1143
01:01:19,426 --> 01:01:24,717
this sort of war begins
between Bad Boy and Death Row.
1144
01:01:24,806 --> 01:01:28,640
And that's when we all realized,
Whoa, we're not in Kansas anymore.
1145
01:01:36,234 --> 01:01:38,350
[NAS] The Source Awards changed everything.
1146
01:01:38,445 --> 01:01:41,483
Now, you realized where your power was.
1147
01:01:41,573 --> 01:01:46,067
There was no limits to where a CEO
or a mogul can wind up.
1148
01:01:46,161 --> 01:01:49,495
So, now, it becomes
more serious at the top.
1149
01:01:49,581 --> 01:01:51,822
♪ When the la-Ia hits ya ♪
♪ lyrics just splits ya ♪
1150
01:01:51,958 --> 01:01:54,199
♪ Head so hard, ♪
♪ that your hat can't fit you ♪
1151
01:01:54,294 --> 01:01:56,501
♪ Either I'm with ya or against ya ♪
1152
01:01:57,172 --> 01:02:00,460
[SNOOP DOGG] The dialogue at Death Row
now becomes
1153
01:02:00,550 --> 01:02:04,009
Suge is more vocal for what's being said
than what's being done.
1154
01:02:04,095 --> 01:02:07,213
And Dr. Dre don't work
under nobody's schedule or demands.
1155
01:02:07,307 --> 01:02:08,763
Same shit, different toilet.
1156
01:02:09,017 --> 01:02:11,224
[STEVE] I was in the trenches with Suge.
1157
01:02:11,311 --> 01:02:15,555
A lot of my stuff was around
what was Dre gonna focus on?
1158
01:02:15,649 --> 01:02:18,311
Was Dre gonna work? What's he workin' on?
1159
01:02:18,401 --> 01:02:20,733
[JIMMY] 'Cause Dre wasn't any faster then,
than he is now.
1160
01:02:20,820 --> 01:02:24,404
But when Suge told me he and Tupac
wanted to get together,
1161
01:02:24,491 --> 01:02:27,199
what I thought of is, Dre and Pac.
1162
01:02:29,079 --> 01:02:30,615
Tupac's in prison.
1163
01:02:34,501 --> 01:02:37,084
[MALE REPORTER] Tupac, since your period
of incarceration
1164
01:02:37,170 --> 01:02:38,535
in Clinton Correctional Facility,
1165
01:02:39,839 --> 01:02:43,082
have you taken the time
to reflect on your gangster thug image?
1166
01:02:43,343 --> 01:02:45,209
[CHUCKLES]
1167
01:02:47,430 --> 01:02:51,549
Um, I don't see it as me havin'
this gangster thug image.
1168
01:02:51,977 --> 01:02:55,470
Um... Thug life would be more accurate.
1169
01:02:56,564 --> 01:02:59,397
But it's not an image,
it's just a way of life. It's a mentality.
1170
01:02:59,484 --> 01:03:01,270
I don't feel like what I did was so evil.
1171
01:03:01,361 --> 01:03:04,695
I just feel like what...
The way I was livin' and my mentality
1172
01:03:04,781 --> 01:03:07,364
was a part of my progression to be a man.
1173
01:03:09,202 --> 01:03:10,784
[NAS] Pac was a different beast.
1174
01:03:10,870 --> 01:03:14,158
A lot of rappers like to claim they're Pac
'cause they thugs.
1175
01:03:14,249 --> 01:03:15,956
That's not Pac.
1176
01:03:16,042 --> 01:03:17,123
No doubt.
1177
01:03:17,210 --> 01:03:20,419
You know, this is a guy
who saw a black person
1178
01:03:20,505 --> 01:03:23,668
bein' harassed by police officers
and shot 'em.
1179
01:03:24,009 --> 01:03:27,218
You're not Pac
until you're fightin' with killers.
1180
01:03:27,971 --> 01:03:32,090
[WHALLEY] But that was a moment
in time where Tupac had fear in him.
1181
01:03:32,183 --> 01:03:35,972
Here's a young man accused
of things he didn't do and put in jail.
1182
01:03:36,062 --> 01:03:38,269
And he didn't know who to trust anymore.
1183
01:03:38,356 --> 01:03:40,643
And somehow or another,
he found that in Suge.
1184
01:03:41,901 --> 01:03:46,065
[JIMMY] Time Warner wouldn't allow
us to bail out Tupac.
1185
01:03:46,823 --> 01:03:48,860
So, what happened was,
1186
01:03:48,950 --> 01:03:52,944
we advanced Death Row the money
and Death Row bailed out Tupac.
1187
01:03:55,415 --> 01:03:57,952
[COHEN] I imagine that Pac himself
believed Suge bailed him out.
1188
01:03:58,043 --> 01:04:01,832
But the truth is, we and Time Warner
put up the money. I mean, look...
1189
01:04:03,256 --> 01:04:06,590
I was definitely part of bailing out Tupac.
1190
01:04:07,260 --> 01:04:10,924
♪ California love ♪
1191
01:04:12,015 --> 01:04:14,177
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
1192
01:04:18,813 --> 01:04:21,020
[INDISTINCT SHOUTING]
1193
01:04:24,569 --> 01:04:26,230
[STEVE] Now, you got Tupac,
1194
01:04:27,447 --> 01:04:30,439
part of that Death Row fuckin' volcano.
1195
01:04:32,535 --> 01:04:34,388
And they played California Love
for the first time.
1196
01:04:34,412 --> 01:04:37,700
[TU PAC] A song with Tupac,
Dre, and Roger Troutman?
1197
01:04:37,791 --> 01:04:41,000
Holy fuck.
Start manufacturing, start shippin'.
1198
01:04:42,420 --> 01:04:43,856
[TU PAC] Come on, y'all,
that's worth your money.
1199
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,791
[STEVE] Guys, you just made my job easy.
1200
01:04:46,216 --> 01:04:47,251
California, get up!
1201
01:04:47,634 --> 01:04:49,394
[STEVE] You know
an eruption 's gonna happen.
1202
01:04:51,971 --> 01:04:54,508
♪ Out on bail fresh outta jail ♪
♪ California dreaming ♪
1203
01:04:54,641 --> 01:04:57,286
♪ Soon as I stepped on the scene ♪
♪ I'm hearing hoochies screaming ♪
1204
01:04:57,310 --> 01:04:58,766
♪ Fiending for money and alcohol ♪
1205
01:04:58,853 --> 01:05:02,312
♪ The life of a Westside player ♪
♪ Where cowards die and the strong ball ♪
1206
01:05:02,482 --> 01:05:05,190
♪ Only in Cali where we riot ♪
♪ Not rally to live and die ♪
1207
01:05:05,276 --> 01:05:06,754
♪ In LA, we wearing Chucks not Ballies ♪
1208
01:05:06,778 --> 01:05:07,778
♪ That's right ♪
1209
01:05:07,821 --> 01:05:10,529
♪ Dressed in Locs and khaki suits ♪
♪ And ride is what we do ♪
1210
01:05:10,657 --> 01:05:13,240
♪ Flossing, but have caution ♪
♪ We collide with other crews ♪
1211
01:05:13,326 --> 01:05:14,532
♪ Famous because we program ♪
1212
01:05:14,619 --> 01:05:17,486
When Tupac came into the studio,
he just stayed in the booth,
1213
01:05:17,580 --> 01:05:20,572
wrote the song, laid the song,
put up another track.
1214
01:05:20,667 --> 01:05:21,748
That was amazing.
1215
01:05:21,835 --> 01:05:24,623
He would just write about five or six songs
before he comes out.
1216
01:05:24,838 --> 01:05:26,148
♪ But give me that bomb beat from Dre ♪
1217
01:05:26,172 --> 01:05:28,209
♪ Let me serenade the streets of LA ♪
1218
01:05:28,299 --> 01:05:31,883
♪ From Oakland to Sac-town ♪
♪ The Bay Area and back down ♪
1219
01:05:31,970 --> 01:05:33,650
♪ Cali is where they put their mack down ♪
1220
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:34,715
♪ Give me love! ♪
1221
01:05:34,806 --> 01:05:36,992
[SNOOP DOGG] Pac was like,
Fuck that. I'm on it. Right now.
1222
01:05:37,016 --> 01:05:39,474
California Love, whoopty whoop,
do the video.
1223
01:05:39,561 --> 01:05:41,330
Nigga, you've probably
never even seen Mad Max.
1224
01:05:41,354 --> 01:05:43,641
Come on, put the suit on, nigga, let's go.
1225
01:05:43,731 --> 01:05:46,814
And Dre was great
at takin' Tupac's built-up frustration
1226
01:05:46,901 --> 01:05:48,642
and makin' that shit sound fuckin' awesome.
1227
01:05:48,736 --> 01:05:50,131
[JIMMY] I said, Dre, you nailed it.
1228
01:05:50,155 --> 01:05:53,068
You heard Dre take just
another step in production.
1229
01:05:53,158 --> 01:05:55,775
Next year, Death Row gonna start
printin' our own money.
1230
01:05:56,327 --> 01:05:58,113
'Cause we making so much we need...
1231
01:05:58,204 --> 01:06:00,366
[JIMMY] But as success builds,
as visibility builds,
1232
01:06:00,457 --> 01:06:03,540
as fame builds, people react differently.
1233
01:06:03,918 --> 01:06:05,704
[DR. DRE] Tupac, I did not see it coming.
1234
01:06:06,754 --> 01:06:11,715
[JIMMY] When Pac and Suge got together,
it created a very volatile situation-
1235
01:06:12,385 --> 01:06:14,065
They were gonna do
what they were gonna do.
1236
01:06:14,262 --> 01:06:15,468
And we couldn't control that.
1237
01:06:15,555 --> 01:06:17,592
I just wanna send a shout-out
to Bad Boy Records.
1238
01:06:17,682 --> 01:06:20,362
[JIMMY] It became about somethin'
that none of us really understood.
1239
01:06:20,393 --> 01:06:21,554
It became a street war.
1240
01:06:21,644 --> 01:06:24,081
[TU PAC] We're comin' to overthrow
the government y'all got right now
1241
01:06:24,105 --> 01:06:26,346
which is Bad Boy and Nas
and all that bullshit.
1242
01:06:26,441 --> 01:06:30,184
And we will bring a new government here
that will feed every person in New York.
1243
01:06:31,070 --> 01:06:32,606
[INDISTINCT CHATTER]
1244
01:06:33,072 --> 01:06:34,592
[SNOOP DOGG] Now, Tupac was my friend.
1245
01:06:34,866 --> 01:06:37,779
So, I had no problem
with pla yin' my role, you know.
1246
01:06:37,994 --> 01:06:39,472
Nigga, you need to wear suits, nigga.
1247
01:06:39,496 --> 01:06:42,113
Hugo Boss, nigga. Jewelry.
Do this, do that.
1248
01:06:42,207 --> 01:06:43,487
Nigga, la what your hair down.
1249
01:06:43,833 --> 01:06:48,578
But once he started badmouthin' Dre,
I'm feelin' like that's comin' from Suge.
1250
01:06:49,130 --> 01:06:51,371
But still comin' outta Pads mouth.
1251
01:06:52,300 --> 01:06:53,961
I kinda pushed away from him.
1252
01:06:54,052 --> 01:06:56,259
D.O.C.: I don't think Suge ever understood
1253
01:06:56,930 --> 01:07:01,219
that the power behind everything great
that was happenin' was Dre.
1254
01:07:02,435 --> 01:07:05,268
[DR. DRE] I wanted to leave.
I wanted to leave Death Row
1255
01:07:05,355 --> 01:07:07,437
and everything that was accumulated.
1256
01:07:08,191 --> 01:07:10,774
PETER: I was going, Dre, this label's
worth a lotta money.
1257
01:07:10,944 --> 01:07:13,777
You should get paid for it.
You own half the label. He goes, No.
1258
01:07:13,863 --> 01:07:15,424
[DR. DRE] I didn't want
anything followin' me.
1259
01:07:15,448 --> 01:07:17,189
PATERNO: I'm done. I'm done.
1260
01:07:17,283 --> 01:07:18,694
[JIMMY] So, Icalled Dre.
1261
01:07:18,785 --> 01:07:22,153
I said, Don't break up The Beatles.
You keep the band together. You know?
1262
01:07:22,830 --> 01:07:25,697
And he said, No, I can't do it.
There's nothin' I can do about it.
1263
01:07:25,792 --> 01:07:27,453
[DR. DRE] Everything just changed.
1264
01:07:27,544 --> 01:07:29,876
It became a lot more violent. You know?
1265
01:07:29,963 --> 01:07:33,456
Engineers gettin' beat down,
just random people gettin' beat down
1266
01:07:33,550 --> 01:07:36,463
and shot at in the
studio, in the mic booth.
1267
01:07:37,053 --> 01:07:40,216
All kinda shit that I was just against.
1268
01:07:40,306 --> 01:07:41,637
REPORTER: You saw some of this?
1269
01:07:42,976 --> 01:07:44,341
I'm not sayin' that on camera.
1270
01:07:45,144 --> 01:07:47,206
[SNOOP DOGG] There was always incidents
that are secret
1271
01:07:47,230 --> 01:07:48,812
and that we will never speak on.
1272
01:07:49,524 --> 01:07:51,731
D.O.C.: Power, control, celebrity.
1273
01:07:52,151 --> 01:07:54,734
It'll fuck anybody. Anybody.
1274
01:07:55,154 --> 01:07:57,316
And it happened to Death Row.
1275
01:07:58,783 --> 01:08:01,070
There's a story nobody knows about,
1276
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:04,573
'cause they brought this person
into my office, of all places.
1277
01:08:04,664 --> 01:08:08,248
And the beating that they commenced
to put on that dude...
1278
01:08:08,334 --> 01:08:11,622
There was blood everywhere,
and the dude is pullin' on my pants leg.
1279
01:08:12,338 --> 01:08:13,828
You know, I just wanted to get out.
1280
01:08:13,923 --> 01:08:15,523
[SNOOP DOGG] No, nigga, you can't leave.
1281
01:08:15,592 --> 01:08:18,175
And if you do leave, nigga,
you gonna leave in a box.
1282
01:08:19,804 --> 01:08:21,135
REPORTER: That was Death ROW?
1283
01:08:21,222 --> 01:08:22,678
That's Death Row.
1284
01:08:25,018 --> 01:08:30,639
[JIMMY] I said, You know, gangstas spend their
whole life trying to become legitimate.
1285
01:08:30,732 --> 01:08:33,975
You guys are earning
tens of millions of dollars legitimately.
1286
01:08:34,068 --> 01:08:37,026
Why get involved
with any of this nonsense?
1287
01:08:37,155 --> 01:08:39,487
I mean, look...
1288
01:08:40,116 --> 01:08:43,575
At one moment,
I said to my ex-wife, I said,
1289
01:08:44,287 --> 01:08:48,076
Am I defending free speech
or am I funding Hamas?
1290
01:08:48,291 --> 01:08:49,827
I was so confused.
1291
01:08:50,001 --> 01:08:53,335
It was so intense and...
1292
01:08:53,713 --> 01:08:58,082
I was on a new page I'd never seen
in my life before, every day.
1293
01:08:58,176 --> 01:09:02,135
You know, on the news, every time we're
watching TV, somethin' would come on.
1294
01:09:02,221 --> 01:09:05,964
This thing happened, you know,
this guy got killed or shot,
1295
01:09:06,059 --> 01:09:10,098
or, you know,
and there was always a reason for it.
1296
01:09:10,188 --> 01:09:12,429
And I don't know if I just...
I don't know what I did.
1297
01:09:12,523 --> 01:09:16,733
I was on a mission.
I was on a very, very intense mission.
1298
01:09:17,111 --> 01:09:20,231
[FEMALE REPORTER] What do you feel when
you hear a record like Tupac's new one?
1299
01:09:20,573 --> 01:09:21,938
[MAN] I love Tupac's new record.
1300
01:09:22,033 --> 01:09:23,302
[FEMALE REPORTER] Right. But don't you feel
1301
01:09:23,326 --> 01:09:26,864
like that creates tension
between East and West?
1302
01:09:27,163 --> 01:09:30,781
He's talking about killing people.
I had sex with your wife.
1303
01:09:30,875 --> 01:09:32,491
And not in those words.
1304
01:09:33,086 --> 01:09:38,252
♪ Oh, I'll give you all the love ♪
1305
01:09:38,341 --> 01:09:40,799
I want in return, sweet darling
1306
01:09:40,885 --> 01:09:43,673
GRUBMAN: I am sitting
in the south of France,
1307
01:09:43,763 --> 01:09:47,552
having a wonderful time, baking my body.
1308
01:09:49,143 --> 01:09:52,681
And then somebody comes over to me
and says, You have a phone call.
1309
01:09:52,772 --> 01:09:54,012
And it's from Jimmy Lovine.
1310
01:09:55,775 --> 01:09:59,018
Allen, listen, we're gonna have a meeting
over at Warner's
1311
01:09:59,112 --> 01:10:01,274
with everything that's happening.
1312
01:10:01,364 --> 01:10:04,231
That was his signal
to tell me to get my ass back.
1313
01:10:04,826 --> 01:10:06,817
Thank God for the Concorde.
1314
01:10:08,287 --> 01:10:11,029
I take off at 10:30.
I'm in New York at 9:30.
1315
01:10:11,124 --> 01:10:15,368
[JIMMY] So, Ted, Allen and Skip Brittenham
go over, have the meeting at 9:30.
1316
01:10:15,461 --> 01:10:17,372
And, you know, I'm banned. Right?
1317
01:10:17,463 --> 01:10:19,625
We'll have the meeting.
But he can't come.
1318
01:10:19,716 --> 01:10:24,051
They thought that they could manage
Ted Fields and the lawyer.
1319
01:10:24,637 --> 01:10:28,722
[JIMMY] Ted's staying at the Four Seasons.
I'm at the St. Regis with David Cohen.
1320
01:10:28,808 --> 01:10:31,721
They call us up at 10:30
and Ted says, We got great news.
1321
01:10:31,811 --> 01:10:37,181
Warner's proposed to buy
our share of the company for $150 million.
1322
01:10:37,775 --> 01:10:39,641
And I'm ecstatic.
1323
01:10:39,986 --> 01:10:42,819
I hang up the phone. And I run there.
1324
01:10:44,866 --> 01:10:48,154
We go upstairs and I say,
What did you say?
1325
01:10:48,244 --> 01:10:52,112
Allen said, Shut up. We all...
They gave us $150 million.
1326
01:10:52,206 --> 01:10:55,324
We get rid of Death Row.
Nobody likes that music anyway.
1327
01:10:55,418 --> 01:10:57,625
Jimmy says, No way, we're not doing that.
1328
01:10:57,712 --> 01:10:59,606
Allen says, You idiot.
You're gonna get all this money.
1329
01:10:59,630 --> 01:11:01,587
$150 million.
1330
01:11:01,674 --> 01:11:03,554
- We can't do it. We're out.
- Are you nuts?
1331
01:11:03,676 --> 01:11:05,417
- [JIMMY] Fuck that.
- Are you crazy?
1332
01:11:05,511 --> 01:11:07,422
[JIMMY] I've never been so sure.
1333
01:11:07,638 --> 01:11:10,050
- Are you fucking crazy?
- No. No. No.
1334
01:11:10,308 --> 01:11:11,469
We didn't do it.
1335
01:11:11,559 --> 01:11:15,427
[COHEN] Jimmy, against the advice of
his attorneys, had the courage to say,
1336
01:11:15,521 --> 01:11:18,388
No, I'm gonna ride with Death Row.
This is what we do.
1337
01:11:18,691 --> 01:11:20,773
GRUBMAN: So, then Time Warner decides
1338
01:11:20,860 --> 01:11:23,477
that they have gotta
sell their share to us.
1339
01:11:23,571 --> 01:11:25,187
So, everything's good. We're happy.
1340
01:11:25,281 --> 01:11:26,925
[JIMMY] Meanwhile,
every time I'd call Geffen,
1341
01:11:26,949 --> 01:11:30,283
he would say, You can't be this lucky
to get your company back.
1342
01:11:30,369 --> 01:11:33,862
I did say that. I said, Jimmy, this is the
greatest thing that ever happened to you.
1343
01:11:33,956 --> 01:11:35,867
GRUBMAN: 'Cause Doug now, by the way,
1344
01:11:35,958 --> 01:11:38,541
is no longer at Warner's. He's at MCA.
1345
01:11:39,128 --> 01:11:42,371
[JIMMY] And him, Geffen and Edgar Bronfman
took our company in.
1346
01:11:42,465 --> 01:11:45,253
We bought it again. We bought lnterscope.
1347
01:11:45,384 --> 01:11:47,295
GRUBMAN: This was a defining moment.
1348
01:11:47,386 --> 01:11:50,720
And people lost, which was the Warner side.
1349
01:11:50,807 --> 01:11:55,472
And people won,
which was the Interscope and MCA side.
1350
01:11:55,561 --> 01:11:57,097
[DOUG] The success was remarkable.
1351
01:11:57,188 --> 01:12:01,933
At one point, Interscope was responsible
for the top four albums in Billboard.
1352
01:12:03,069 --> 01:12:08,906
[GWEN] He predicted it. Literally, six years
on the dot from when Jimmy came up to me,
1353
01:12:09,700 --> 01:12:12,237
Don't Speak was number one
around the world.
1354
01:12:12,328 --> 01:12:14,069
And I was a huge star.
1355
01:12:15,081 --> 01:12:17,072
Everyone did great but me.
1356
01:12:17,416 --> 01:12:20,499
♪ Don't speak ♪
♪ I know just what you're sayin' ♪
1357
01:12:20,586 --> 01:12:24,420
[FUCHS] But when you think back,
what was the reason to be upset?
1358
01:12:24,882 --> 01:12:28,295
♪ Don't tell me 'cause it hurts ♪
1359
01:12:29,053 --> 01:12:32,091
- Doug, how you doin'? Yeah.
- Hello?
1360
01:12:32,181 --> 01:12:36,516
It's crazy, right? It's gonna get worse.
I don't know what the hell's going on.
1361
01:12:36,936 --> 01:12:39,143
[INDISTINCT CHATTER ON PHONE]
1362
01:12:41,399 --> 01:12:45,643
STEVIE: I remember being at Jimmy's house,
in the house he's in now,
1363
01:12:45,736 --> 01:12:48,774
for something after some Grammys
or something.
1364
01:12:48,865 --> 01:12:52,654
And he was supposed to go to this thing,
but he didn't go.
1365
01:12:52,743 --> 01:12:54,199
And there was a stabbing.
1366
01:12:54,287 --> 01:13:00,408
And I remember his oldest son saying,
Dad, you better start to be careful now.
1367
01:13:00,501 --> 01:13:02,913
Because somebody's gonna
blow your head off.
1368
01:13:03,421 --> 01:13:06,038
And at that point I'm like,
This is really too serious now.
1369
01:13:06,132 --> 01:13:08,965
It was deadly serious
1370
01:13:09,135 --> 01:13:12,218
with Death Row and death threats.
1371
01:13:12,305 --> 01:13:16,299
I felt like it was getting too dangerous
for Jimmy, his family and me.
1372
01:13:16,392 --> 01:13:19,726
Because one night he called me and he said,
I want you go to a premiere with me.
1373
01:13:19,812 --> 01:13:22,053
So, I go over and we
started to get in the car
1374
01:13:22,148 --> 01:13:25,607
and he said,
Okay, you guys better put these on now.
1375
01:13:26,110 --> 01:13:30,274
I said, Put what on? We had to wear
a bulletproof vest at a premiere.
1376
01:13:30,364 --> 01:13:33,902
And I've made a lot of movies
and I was head of a studio.
1377
01:13:33,993 --> 01:13:36,234
I'd been to many, many premieres.
1378
01:13:36,329 --> 01:13:39,412
But I've never worn a bulletproof vest
going down a red carpet.
1379
01:13:39,498 --> 01:13:41,034
That's Jimmy.
1380
01:13:41,125 --> 01:13:46,495
[BONO] And I said, You're making music.
This is... Wow. How'd it get to this?
1381
01:13:46,923 --> 01:13:48,817
[STEVE] I remember riding in the car
with Suge once.
1382
01:13:48,841 --> 01:13:54,803
And Jimmy had invested hundreds of hours
into the human being, to really help him.
1383
01:13:55,389 --> 01:13:59,508
I said, Jimmy has given so much
of himself to you.
1384
01:14:01,854 --> 01:14:05,188
Why is it going to the place it's going?
1385
01:14:06,567 --> 01:14:09,059
And Suge said, It's what I know.
1386
01:14:09,153 --> 01:14:12,646
[TU PAC] Hey yo,
I got some new shit for y'all tonight.
1387
01:14:12,740 --> 01:14:16,404
[NAS] It was, like, Forget how y'all knew
rap before. This is a new day.
1388
01:14:16,661 --> 01:14:17,776
Oh, yes.
1389
01:14:17,870 --> 01:14:19,235
Let's go all the way.
1390
01:14:19,330 --> 01:14:21,367
[TU PAC] See, it's this nigga named Nas.
1391
01:14:21,457 --> 01:14:23,789
And he kicking with
these niggas named Mobb Deep.
1392
01:14:24,543 --> 01:14:27,331
And they kickin' with some niggas
named Bad Boy.
1393
01:14:27,421 --> 01:14:29,741
[NAS] Fear is a good thing
'cause it can keep you in check.
1394
01:14:29,799 --> 01:14:31,631
But I say fuck 'em all.
1395
01:14:31,717 --> 01:14:35,255
You cross lines that, you just knew it,
somebody's gonna get hurt.
1396
01:14:35,346 --> 01:14:38,930
So, I'm about to take this nigga beat
and whoop his ass
1397
01:14:39,016 --> 01:14:40,882
with his own motherfucking beat.
1398
01:14:44,105 --> 01:14:47,598
1996, everything came together
that same year.
1399
01:14:48,401 --> 01:14:50,170
♪ Menacin' methods ♪
♪ label me a lethal weapon ♪
1400
01:14:50,194 --> 01:14:51,194
♪ Making niggas die ♪
1401
01:14:51,278 --> 01:14:52,881
♪ Die witnessin' breathless imperfections ♪
1402
01:14:52,905 --> 01:14:56,068
♪ Can you picture my specific plan ♪
♪ To be the man in this wicked land ♪
1403
01:14:56,158 --> 01:14:59,867
♪ Underhanded hits are planned ♪
♪ Scams are plotted over grams of rock ♪
1404
01:15:00,037 --> 01:15:03,496
♪ Undercover agents die by the random shots ♪
♪ We all die in the end ♪
1405
01:15:03,582 --> 01:15:06,244
[STEVE] Tupac was two different people
Iivin' in the same body.
1406
01:15:07,586 --> 01:15:11,124
This was one of the greatest poets
of a generation.
1407
01:15:11,215 --> 01:15:16,710
Totally gracious, totally engaged. But
you saw the fuel of what was driving him.
1408
01:15:16,804 --> 01:15:18,010
He was almost manic.
1409
01:15:18,097 --> 01:15:19,574
♪ How can I show 'em how I feel inside? ♪
1410
01:15:19,598 --> 01:15:21,839
♪ We outlaws motherfuckers ♪
♪ Can't kill my pride ♪
1411
01:15:21,934 --> 01:15:25,222
[WHALLEY] What made him great
is that he was highly emotional.
1412
01:15:25,312 --> 01:15:27,599
But he's just lashing out.
1413
01:15:27,732 --> 01:15:31,691
♪ Niggas shot me five times? ♪
♪ I came out of jail and sold five million ♪
1414
01:15:31,777 --> 01:15:33,267
♪ The niggas can't fuck with us ♪
1415
01:15:33,446 --> 01:15:34,965
[WHALLEY] I could only interpret it as that
1416
01:15:34,989 --> 01:15:36,821
he was trying to figure out
who the enemy was.
1417
01:15:38,993 --> 01:15:41,610
[PUFFY] We never got into dislikin'
any of the artists,
1418
01:15:41,704 --> 01:15:46,665
but we had a problem with Suge
really disrupting our quality of life.
1419
01:15:46,751 --> 01:15:49,960
♪ Westside was the war cry. ♪
♪ Bustin' all freely screaming fuck ♪
1420
01:15:50,254 --> 01:15:53,667
♪ All y'all niggas in Swahili. ♪
♪ Pistol packin' fresh out of jail ♪
1421
01:15:54,633 --> 01:15:56,590
It was just very sad.
1422
01:15:58,387 --> 01:15:59,548
See, I can't answer.
1423
01:15:59,638 --> 01:16:01,950
This is that slippery slope for me,
you know what I'm sayin'?
1424
01:16:01,974 --> 01:16:03,785
♪ Send me to hell. ♪
♪ 'Cause I ain't beggin' for my life ♪
1425
01:16:03,809 --> 01:16:06,392
♪ Ain't nothing worse. ♪
♪ Than this cursed-ass hopeless life ♪
1426
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:07,479
♪ I'm troublesome ♪
1427
01:16:07,855 --> 01:16:13,976
[ANNOUNCER] And now ladies and gentlemen
in attendance, it's showtime.
1428
01:16:16,489 --> 01:16:19,447
[JIMMY] I remember them going to the fights
in Vegas.
1429
01:16:19,533 --> 01:16:21,470
And I always thought that was dangerous,
you know?
1430
01:16:21,494 --> 01:16:23,986
And they went to the fight that night.
1431
01:16:26,415 --> 01:16:28,031
[YELLING]
1432
01:16:28,334 --> 01:16:31,326
♪ La la la la, la, la. La, la-Ia la, la ♪
1433
01:16:31,962 --> 01:16:33,578
[JIMMY] There was this fight.
1434
01:16:33,881 --> 01:16:35,622
♪ All you niggas die ♪
1435
01:16:36,175 --> 01:16:39,418
♪ La la la la, la, la. La, la-Ia la, la ♪
1436
01:16:39,887 --> 01:16:41,753
[JIMMY] It's on video.
1437
01:16:42,014 --> 01:16:44,802
♪ Bye-bye, bye-bye. All you niggas die ♪
1438
01:16:44,892 --> 01:16:46,508
[JIMMY] Everyone has seen it.
1439
01:16:46,602 --> 01:16:50,140
♪ La la la la, la, la. La, la-Ia la, la ♪
1440
01:16:50,231 --> 01:16:53,314
[JIMMY] And next thing you know...
1441
01:16:53,567 --> 01:16:55,399
♪ All you niggas die ♪
1442
01:16:55,694 --> 01:16:58,607
[GUNSHOTS AND GLASS SHATTERING]
1443
01:17:00,157 --> 01:17:02,068
[TIRES SCREECHING]
1444
01:17:02,201 --> 01:17:04,738
♪ Bye-bye, bye-bye. All you niggas die ♪
1445
01:17:16,632 --> 01:17:21,217
[SNOOP DOGG] I was in LA
Me and Pac wasn't seeing eye to eye.
1446
01:17:21,637 --> 01:17:26,382
So, I got a page.
Nigga was like, Put on the news.
1447
01:17:27,685 --> 01:17:29,471
[DAN RATHER] The rap singer, Tupac Shakur
1448
01:17:29,562 --> 01:17:32,224
was killed in a drive-by shooting
in Las Vegas.
1449
01:17:32,314 --> 01:17:36,478
No one has been arrested in the killing.
Shakur was 25 years old.
1450
01:17:40,072 --> 01:17:45,192
So, I drove to Vegas to go, um...
To go see.
1451
01:17:46,078 --> 01:17:47,989
And his mama was in the hallway.
1452
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:51,368
And she was like,
Go in there, say somethin' to him, baby.
1453
01:17:52,084 --> 01:17:55,327
I'm like, All right.
I went up in there and just, you know...
1454
01:17:59,425 --> 01:18:00,425
Fucked up.
1455
01:18:03,762 --> 01:18:06,845
It was just the worst
thing that could happen.
1456
01:18:06,932 --> 01:18:09,173
You know, these are things that
1457
01:18:09,977 --> 01:18:13,766
everybody wishes
they could have prevented somehow.
1458
01:18:14,064 --> 01:18:15,099
You know?
1459
01:18:15,566 --> 01:18:18,433
And, if only, if only, you know, and...
1460
01:18:21,447 --> 01:18:24,360
There was no reason for Tupac to die.
You know?
1461
01:18:24,450 --> 01:18:27,238
And, um, especially like that.
1462
01:18:27,870 --> 01:18:29,326
A life is lost.
1463
01:18:29,413 --> 01:18:32,622
Company's goin' down the hill.
Everybody's in disarray.
1464
01:18:32,958 --> 01:18:35,871
And Dre on the sideline, watchin'.
1465
01:18:35,961 --> 01:18:38,328
And everybody's sayin',
I see why you left, Dre-
1466
01:18:39,506 --> 01:18:41,463
[NEWS READER] Los Angeles
superior court judge
1467
01:18:41,550 --> 01:18:44,713
ordered Knight into court
for violating his probation
1468
01:18:44,803 --> 01:18:46,965
and then raised troubling questions
1469
01:18:47,056 --> 01:18:49,889
about why Knight hadn't been locked up
before now.
1470
01:18:49,975 --> 01:18:52,467
[JIMMY] Suge went to
prison for a long time.
1471
01:18:52,937 --> 01:18:56,020
And that was the end.
1472
01:18:56,774 --> 01:18:58,731
[DR. DRE] I feel like the
gangsta rap era's over.
1473
01:18:58,817 --> 01:19:02,685
You know, put out negative energy,
it's gonna come back to you, period.
1474
01:19:03,322 --> 01:19:05,313
Live by the gun, die by the gun.
1475
01:19:07,159 --> 01:19:09,321
It's time for somethin' else, you know.
1476
01:19:10,204 --> 01:19:12,616
I just been trying to put together
a new family,
1477
01:19:12,706 --> 01:19:15,494
and basically just start all over.
1478
01:19:22,299 --> 01:19:24,290
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