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Well I'm not much
for making speeches,
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but, on behalf
of her mother and I,
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I would like to thank you
all for coming
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to Rachel's going off
to college party.
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This is the moment
I've been waiting for.
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Dad.
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What I meant was, the moment
I haven't been waiting for.
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One of the hardest things
for a father
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is when it comes time to send
his little girl off to college.
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Rachel, we love you so much,
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and we are very,
very proud of you.
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Just remember our deal though,
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you promised you
wouldn't get married
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until you're at least
forty-five.
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You sure you don't want
to take any of your photos?
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You've seen the dorm rooms,
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I don't have room
for all that stuff.
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I know.
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This house isn't going to be
the same without you.
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Mom, its only three hours away.
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I'll be back from time to time.
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And you two can come visit.
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It's not like I'm going
away forever.
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How's she supposed
to get anything packed
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with you crying over
everything she owns?
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You tell her Dad.
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Yeah don't let him fool you.
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When you're here
he's all together,
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but when you drive away,
he'll be missing you.
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Did you enjoy dinner?
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Yes, thank you both so much.
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You know you
didn't have to do it.
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Are you kidding?
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Going off to college
is a big deal.
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I think your other clothes
are probably ready.
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I'll help you.
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Be right back Dad.
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Okay.
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Oh hey, are you my roommate?
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Um, I guess so.
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I'm Ally.
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Rachel.
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I went ahead
and threw my stuff on a bed.
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I didn't know which one you
wanted so I just picked one.
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That's fine.
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We're just going
to the student union.
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Do you want to come with us?
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I think I'm just going
to get moved in first.
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Do you need help
with your stuff?
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I got it.
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Thank you.
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Alright, I'll see you
later then.
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See ya.
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Welcome, welcome, welcome.
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Is everybody alive?
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Yeah.
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I say is everybody alive?
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Yeah!
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There we go.
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If you are wondering
what plane you're on,
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this is Introduction to Biology
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where we will be
studying life and its origins,
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and all that good stuff.
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So if you are on
the wrong flight,
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this would be the time
to disembark.
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I am your humble pilot,
Professor Marcus Kaman.
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Out in the hall, behind my back,
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you call me anything you like
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but in here I would appreciate
Professor Kaman
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or, if you must,
Mister Professor Kaman.
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I'm going to try my best
to entertain you
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during our time together,
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in return I would
appreciate from you
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a little critical thinking.
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Science is after all,
the field which challenges us
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to redefine the conventional
wisdom of our predecessors.
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That's what makes us grow
as a society and as a species.
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I want to have some honest,
intellectual discussion in here
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and I want each and every one
of you to participate
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and that includes you.
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And now for the good news,
it's about your grades.
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Attend this class,
and you will pass.
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In fact, if you show up
every time, I'll give you a C,
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even if I know you're only
pretending to listen to me.
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What are you doing?
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Just a little work.
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Rachel, this is our first
weekend at college.
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We're going out!
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You look like you
could use a friend.
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What?
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I said you look like
you could use a friend.
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It's hard to hear you.
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Let's go outside.
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That's better.
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I'm Jason.
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Rachel.
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Good to meet you Rachel.
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You're a freshmen?
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Yep.
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I was a freshmen once.
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Last year.
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You liking your classes so far?
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They're pretty good.
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What are you taking?
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English, Spanish, Government,
Algebra and Biology.
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Biology?
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Did you get Kaman?
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I did.
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Professor Marcus Kaman.
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Welcome, welcome, welcome.
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Is everybody alive?
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That's right.
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Yeah, I had him last year.
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He's a fun guy.
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You know he made biology
really interesting,
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and I hate biology.
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I'll look forward to it then.
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You have a major yet Rachel?
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I do.
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What is it?
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Biology.
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Oh.
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I brought you some juice.
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You ever going to get up?
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What time is it?
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Almost 10 a.m..
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So how was it with Jason?
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He was nice.
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We just talked.
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Do you know him?
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I was here this summer
and I met him.
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He's available.
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I wouldn't wait around though,
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he won't be single
for very long.
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Yes, Richard,
looking forward to it.
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I've got it down.
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Rachel?
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Yeah, she's fine.
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Yep, she ended up going off
to the university.
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Well, Kimberly and I
struggled a lot with that
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because our goal was to send
her to a good Christian college
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but she really
wants to be pharmacist
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and they have a great program.
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She'll find a good church
over there.
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Ladies and gentlemen,
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today, we are going to answer
the age old question
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that has been asked by
generation after generation
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throughout history.
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It is the question of questions
concerning the origins of life.
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It is, of course,
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which came first,
the chicken or the egg?
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Now, how many of you
would answer that by saying
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the egg came first,
raise you hands.
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Mr. Blair, why the egg?
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Because without the egg,
there could be no chicken.
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Good answer.
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Now how many of you would say
the chicken came first,
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raise your hands.
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Alright Miss Whitaker,
why the chicken?
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Because without the chicken,
there could be no egg.
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Good.
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Once again,
if you're with Mr. Blair
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you think the egg
came first, raise your hands.
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Now, if you think
it was the chicken.
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Well, the correct answer is,
drum roll please.
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The egg.
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The egg came first.
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Scientific research
of the fossil record
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and the diversity and
similarity of living organisms
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has convinced most
scientific minds
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that complex life forms
evolved from simpler life forms.
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And if we open our books
to chapter two,
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we can study this
in a little more detail.
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I just got a text from Jason.
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He wants me to meet him
right now at the student union.
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I'm telling you, he likes you.
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He's just a friend.
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Sounds like he wants
to be more than just friends.
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Hey, what did you think about
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what Professor Kaman
was just saying.
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About what?
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About the egg coming first.
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Sounds okay to me.
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I know my Dad would not
agree with that.
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Well, Daddy's not here.
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But Jason is.
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Now, go meet with him.
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What's this?
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Have I got an important
job for you.
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Okay, what this?
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Old newspapers.
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We need to archive all of the
key articles onto our web site.
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Alright, I think
I can handle that.
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Shane!
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I think there there's more
newspapers than just this.
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Huh?
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That's right, this is only about
five years worth.
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We'll start with these.
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How many years
are we going to do?
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Well, the paper's been in
existence for over sixty years.
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Sixty?
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It will take me
all semester to do that?
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And the University will be
indebted to you for your effort.
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No wait Mr. Jamison,
I was mistaken,
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it will take my entire college
career to do this.
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And the University will be
indebted to you for your effort.
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So, she comes over last night
to watch TV
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and then she said she is
only going to watch it with me
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in the lounge.
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Is that stupid or what?
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You know how to pick them.
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Yeah, I know how
to drop 'em too.
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What?
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She's one of the cutest freshmen
we've seen.
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I don't care.
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Aren't you getting
with her later today
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at that student union.
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Supposed to.
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You know what you're problem is
Jason, you give up too easily.
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Stephen, Dinner in five.
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Washing up, be right there.
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Alright, here's your hundred.
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You know what
your going to say right?
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I already told you,
I'm not going to do this.
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Rachel come on,
this is a good idea.
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But I can't do it.
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Yes, you can.
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It's just Tyler.
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He's my roommate.
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The guy in the red shirt.
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I can't.
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You have to because he's cute.
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You think everyone is cute.
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Well he is.
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Now go.
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I can't.
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Rachel if you pull this off,
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everybody is going to be
talking about this for years.
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Yeah but why me?
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Let Ally go.
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No, he met Ally this summer.
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He might know something's up.
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Where'd you come up with
something like this any way?
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I found this old book
in the library.
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From when,
the nineteen seventies?
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Actually nineteen sixties,
but thank you very much.
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That happens to be why
nobody knows about this.
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This is so stupid.
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Rachel this is fun.
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What are you worrying about,
I got your back.
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I don't know.
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You've got to loosen up girl.
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I won't be able to say it
with a straight face.
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Yes you can.
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Come on Rachel,
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just do it in the
name of college fun.
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Yeah, this is your moment.
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It'll be great.
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Trust me.
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Alright.
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Alright.
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Here are your eggs.
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Now you just got
to say everything
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exactly the way
I told you to say it.
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Okay! I have no idea
why I'm doing this.
266
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You both are going to owe me.
267
00:13:42,972 --> 00:13:43,996
Excuse me, good looking.
268
00:13:45,741 --> 00:13:46,741
Me?
269
00:13:46,742 --> 00:13:47,742
Yes, you.
270
00:13:47,743 --> 00:13:48,743
You wanna make
a hundred dollars?
271
00:13:49,745 --> 00:13:50,745
Hundred dollars?
272
00:13:50,779 --> 00:13:51,838
Yep, hundred dollars.
273
00:13:51,914 --> 00:13:53,382
Right here.
274
00:13:53,449 --> 00:13:54,449
Yeah, right.
275
00:13:54,450 --> 00:13:55,383
What's the catch?
276
00:13:55,384 --> 00:13:56,317
No catch.
277
00:13:56,318 --> 00:13:58,719
You just let me crack these
three eggs over your head
278
00:13:58,787 --> 00:14:00,449
and this hundred dollar bill
is yours.
279
00:14:00,456 --> 00:14:01,456
What?
280
00:14:01,457 --> 00:14:02,423
You heard me.
281
00:14:02,424 --> 00:14:03,915
I crack these eggs
over your head
282
00:14:03,993 --> 00:14:06,121
and this hundred dollar bill
is yours.
283
00:14:06,195 --> 00:14:07,219
Do it Tyler.
284
00:14:09,064 --> 00:14:11,090
Come on, this is a joke, right?
285
00:14:11,166 --> 00:14:12,862
Here, your friend
can hold the bill.
286
00:14:14,837 --> 00:14:16,396
It's real money man.
287
00:14:16,472 --> 00:14:18,407
That's a lot of cash,
what gives?
288
00:14:18,474 --> 00:14:20,739
It may seem like a lot to you
but from where I come from,
289
00:14:20,809 --> 00:14:22,072
that's spare change.
290
00:14:22,144 --> 00:14:24,045
Just do it man, Come on.
291
00:14:24,113 --> 00:14:25,308
Come on man, hundred bucks.
292
00:14:25,381 --> 00:14:26,474
Easy money bro.
293
00:14:26,549 --> 00:14:27,549
Three eggs.
294
00:14:27,550 --> 00:14:29,781
Do it, come on, yeah dude,
let's go.
295
00:14:29,852 --> 00:14:31,286
Okay, go for it.
296
00:14:31,353 --> 00:14:32,480
What do I need to do?
297
00:14:32,555 --> 00:14:34,319
Just sit right there.
298
00:14:34,390 --> 00:14:36,416
Alright Tyler.
299
00:14:36,417 --> 00:14:37,325
That's what I'm talking about.
300
00:14:37,326 --> 00:14:39,454
Hundred bucks right here.
301
00:14:39,528 --> 00:14:41,997
Here comes egg number one.
302
00:14:47,369 --> 00:14:50,771
Okay, and now egg number two,
you ready?
303
00:14:50,839 --> 00:14:51,863
Here we go.
304
00:14:58,814 --> 00:15:00,783
Alright, one more to go
boys and that hundred is mine.
305
00:15:00,849 --> 00:15:02,044
A hundred bucks let's go.
306
00:15:02,045 --> 00:15:02,951
Last one.
307
00:15:02,952 --> 00:15:04,477
You know, I think two's enough.
308
00:15:04,553 --> 00:15:05,987
I'll just take this hundred.
309
00:15:06,055 --> 00:15:07,250
What?
310
00:15:07,323 --> 00:15:08,416
Hey, that's my hundred?
311
00:15:08,490 --> 00:15:09,490
I said three eggs.
312
00:15:09,491 --> 00:15:10,982
I only did two.
Bye.
313
00:15:11,060 --> 00:15:12,961
There goes his money man.
314
00:15:12,962 --> 00:15:13,928
What!
315
00:15:13,929 --> 00:15:14,495
Are you kidding me.
316
00:15:14,496 --> 00:15:15,520
one hundred dollars.
317
00:15:15,598 --> 00:15:17,829
That's not fair.
318
00:15:17,900 --> 00:15:19,129
That's not fair.
319
00:15:24,940 --> 00:15:25,940
Marcus Kaman.
320
00:15:25,941 --> 00:15:27,341
Professor Kaman.
321
00:15:27,409 --> 00:15:29,037
Well hello Phil.
322
00:15:29,111 --> 00:15:31,876
Just calling to get your topic
for the October debate.
323
00:15:31,947 --> 00:15:34,143
I'd like to promo it at the one
we're doing tomorrow night.
324
00:15:34,216 --> 00:15:35,809
I thought we were going
in November?
325
00:15:35,884 --> 00:15:38,319
Originally yes,
but it got switched around.
326
00:15:38,387 --> 00:15:39,411
You didn't get the memo?
327
00:15:39,488 --> 00:15:41,957
No, I didn't.
328
00:15:42,024 --> 00:15:44,152
You mean to tell me there was
a communication breakdown
329
00:15:44,226 --> 00:15:47,594
between our journalism
department and yours, again?
330
00:15:47,863 --> 00:15:49,491
Imagine that.
331
00:15:49,565 --> 00:15:51,397
Phil, I don't even have
a topic yet.
332
00:15:51,467 --> 00:15:52,833
Can you give me a week or so?
333
00:15:52,901 --> 00:15:55,132
Yeah, I'll just say it's going
to be your department
334
00:15:55,204 --> 00:15:56,204
doing the next one.
335
00:15:57,473 --> 00:15:58,497
So, what are you
and Jason doing later?
336
00:16:00,075 --> 00:16:01,270
We're not.
337
00:16:02,344 --> 00:16:04,176
Is he busy or something?
338
00:16:04,246 --> 00:16:05,246
I don't know.
339
00:16:07,082 --> 00:16:08,550
Wait,
isn't he still calling you?
340
00:16:10,219 --> 00:16:11,312
Yesterday when we talked,
341
00:16:11,387 --> 00:16:14,289
he hinted that we were
just going to be friends.
342
00:16:14,290 --> 00:16:15,256
So.
343
00:16:15,257 --> 00:16:16,486
Oh.
I'm sorry.
344
00:16:16,558 --> 00:16:17,558
It's fine.
345
00:16:17,593 --> 00:16:19,255
He's just a friend.
346
00:16:19,328 --> 00:16:20,352
It was never anything more.
347
00:16:22,097 --> 00:16:23,097
I'm going to the library.
348
00:16:27,236 --> 00:16:28,236
You okay?
349
00:16:28,904 --> 00:16:31,100
Yeah, fine.
350
00:16:31,173 --> 00:16:32,173
See ya.
351
00:16:37,246 --> 00:16:39,340
How's the archiving going buddy?
352
00:16:39,415 --> 00:16:40,576
It's going.
353
00:16:40,649 --> 00:16:45,110
He gave me five years to do
and I'm on year two.
354
00:16:45,187 --> 00:16:46,416
Sounds like world record
pace to me.
355
00:16:46,488 --> 00:16:48,286
Sounds like
a waste of time to me.
356
00:16:48,357 --> 00:16:50,258
Who's going read
these old things?
357
00:16:50,325 --> 00:16:53,318
You do know why
you're doing this, right?
358
00:16:54,096 --> 00:16:55,291
No idea.
359
00:16:55,364 --> 00:16:56,525
You put the articles online.
360
00:16:56,598 --> 00:16:57,657
The Alumni read them.
361
00:16:57,933 --> 00:17:00,664
Re-live their glory days
and donations go up.
362
00:17:00,936 --> 00:17:02,962
Couldn't have said
it better myself.
363
00:17:03,038 --> 00:17:04,336
Wait if that's what
this is all about,
364
00:17:04,406 --> 00:17:05,406
I should be getting a cut here.
365
00:17:06,075 --> 00:17:08,635
Evan you all set to cover the
debate tomorrow night right?
366
00:17:08,711 --> 00:17:09,711
Yes sir, I'll be there.
367
00:17:10,179 --> 00:17:12,239
I should get a cut
of this Mr. Jamison.
368
00:17:13,482 --> 00:17:16,247
And the University will be
indebted to you for your effort.
369
00:17:22,191 --> 00:17:23,618
No matter how times
I throw it to him
370
00:17:23,692 --> 00:17:27,254
and no matter how accurate I am,
he just can't catch it.
371
00:17:27,329 --> 00:17:32,290
Hey just, just give me
about 5 minutes
372
00:17:32,367 --> 00:17:33,699
and I'll meet you over
at the computers alright.
373
00:17:50,085 --> 00:17:51,519
A excuse me, can you tell me
if I'm in the right place
374
00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:52,420
to get breakfast?
375
00:17:52,421 --> 00:17:54,322
I was hoping to get
a couple of eggs.
376
00:17:54,323 --> 00:17:55,323
Oh hi.
377
00:17:57,159 --> 00:18:00,254
I thought we should be formally
introduced, Tyler Mathis.
378
00:18:00,329 --> 00:18:01,627
Rachel Whitaker.
379
00:18:01,697 --> 00:18:03,427
I'm really sorry
about what I did.
380
00:18:03,499 --> 00:18:04,499
What about that?
381
00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:06,332
Hey look anytime
a pretty girl comes up to me
382
00:18:06,401 --> 00:18:09,565
and says hey good looking,
that's all I need to hear.
383
00:18:09,638 --> 00:18:11,334
She can crack eggs
over my head anytime.
384
00:18:11,406 --> 00:18:12,635
You know who put me up to it.
385
00:18:14,042 --> 00:18:15,738
Yeah, yeah I know.
386
00:18:16,011 --> 00:18:17,274
I'll get him back.
387
00:18:17,346 --> 00:18:18,746
Get him one for me
while you're at it will you?
388
00:18:19,014 --> 00:18:20,505
You got it.
389
00:18:20,582 --> 00:18:22,210
You mind if I sit for a minute?
390
00:18:22,211 --> 00:18:23,211
Go ahead.
391
00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:26,379
Whatcha working on?
392
00:18:26,455 --> 00:18:27,582
A report for Biology.
393
00:18:27,583 --> 00:18:28,489
You got Kaman?
394
00:18:28,490 --> 00:18:29,753
I got Kaman.
395
00:18:30,025 --> 00:18:32,051
You know you don't have to do
any work in there right.
396
00:18:32,127 --> 00:18:34,119
All you have to do is show up
every time and you'll get a C.
397
00:18:34,196 --> 00:18:35,196
That's what he said.
398
00:18:35,230 --> 00:18:36,357
It's true.
399
00:18:36,431 --> 00:18:37,592
I had him last year.
400
00:18:37,666 --> 00:18:40,033
The man kept his word
and I am living proof.
401
00:18:40,102 --> 00:18:41,627
Well I need to get
better than a C.
402
00:18:41,703 --> 00:18:43,001
My major's Biology.
403
00:18:43,071 --> 00:18:44,071
Gotcha.
404
00:18:47,743 --> 00:18:50,542
So you are going to the debate
tomorrow night right?
405
00:18:50,612 --> 00:18:51,612
Debate?
406
00:18:51,613 --> 00:18:53,047
Yeah at the Fine Arts Center.
407
00:18:53,048 --> 00:18:53,781
What debate?
408
00:18:53,782 --> 00:18:55,045
What is it?
409
00:18:55,117 --> 00:18:58,144
There's posters everywhere.
410
00:18:58,220 --> 00:19:00,086
I haven't seen any.
411
00:19:00,155 --> 00:19:02,784
Well, there's one
right back there.
412
00:19:03,058 --> 00:19:05,254
Where?
413
00:19:05,327 --> 00:19:09,355
If you look just around the
corner next to the copy machine
414
00:19:09,431 --> 00:19:11,730
on the left, on the bulletin
board, there's a poster.
415
00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,029
I guess you missed it?
416
00:19:13,101 --> 00:19:14,399
Must have missed it.
417
00:19:15,504 --> 00:19:17,132
And these are can't miss events.
418
00:19:17,206 --> 00:19:18,435
First of all,
they're educational,
419
00:19:18,507 --> 00:19:20,203
which is what college
is all about.
420
00:19:20,275 --> 00:19:22,471
Second of all everybody goes
so they're social,
421
00:19:22,544 --> 00:19:25,309
which is what college
is all about.
422
00:19:27,082 --> 00:19:28,082
The debates are a must.
423
00:19:30,686 --> 00:19:31,686
I'm picking you up.
424
00:19:32,521 --> 00:19:33,521
What?
425
00:19:34,523 --> 00:19:36,515
You and me,
we're going to the debate.
426
00:19:38,594 --> 00:19:44,693
I don't...
I don't know.
427
00:19:44,766 --> 00:19:47,133
I think there's a certain
someone at this table
428
00:19:47,202 --> 00:19:49,762
that owes another someone
at this table a small favor.
429
00:19:58,747 --> 00:20:00,409
Good evening and welcome.
430
00:20:00,482 --> 00:20:01,643
Thank you all for coming.
431
00:20:01,717 --> 00:20:03,379
I'm Phil Jamison,
Professor of Journalism
432
00:20:03,452 --> 00:20:05,216
here at the university
433
00:20:05,287 --> 00:20:06,721
and I will also be your
moderator for this evening.
434
00:20:06,788 --> 00:20:07,812
Great crowd huh?
435
00:20:08,423 --> 00:20:10,221
Yeah, glad we got here early.
436
00:20:10,292 --> 00:20:12,261
Yeah, I was afraid we wouldn't
going to get a seat.
437
00:20:13,795 --> 00:20:16,424
And tonight's debate is being
presented by our Math Department
438
00:20:16,498 --> 00:20:19,468
and so let me introduce
our two debaters to you now.
439
00:20:23,472 --> 00:20:25,737
Thanks for walking me back.
It was fun.
440
00:20:25,807 --> 00:20:30,108
Hey, hey, any chance of us
doing something again?
441
00:20:30,913 --> 00:20:32,347
I don't know.
442
00:20:32,414 --> 00:20:34,349
Well you did crack
two eggs over my head
443
00:20:34,416 --> 00:20:36,885
so I feel like maybe
I should get two chances.
444
00:20:37,152 --> 00:20:38,415
You got me there.
445
00:20:38,487 --> 00:20:39,648
How about this weekend?
446
00:20:39,649 --> 00:20:40,521
No I can't.
447
00:20:40,522 --> 00:20:42,184
I'm visiting my parents
this weekend.
448
00:20:42,257 --> 00:20:43,850
Ah, yeah, gotta do that.
449
00:20:43,926 --> 00:20:45,622
They are anxious to see me.
450
00:20:45,694 --> 00:20:47,128
How about when you get back?
451
00:20:50,432 --> 00:20:51,627
Yeah, that could work.
452
00:20:51,700 --> 00:20:53,498
Well, okay then.
453
00:20:53,568 --> 00:20:54,900
I'll call you.
454
00:20:55,170 --> 00:20:58,663
Thanks for coming out
with me tonight and I'll see ya.
455
00:20:58,740 --> 00:21:00,709
See ya.
456
00:21:00,776 --> 00:21:02,210
Okay.
457
00:21:16,358 --> 00:21:17,358
Dinner soon.
458
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:18,452
Thanks Dad.
459
00:21:18,527 --> 00:21:19,527
You busy?
460
00:21:19,561 --> 00:21:21,359
Just sending
a text back to Tyler.
461
00:21:21,430 --> 00:21:23,228
Oh, new boyfriend?
462
00:21:23,298 --> 00:21:24,459
He's a friend.
463
00:21:24,533 --> 00:21:25,933
I just met him.
464
00:21:26,201 --> 00:21:27,669
So, tell me more about
your classes?
465
00:21:27,703 --> 00:21:28,703
They're going good.
466
00:21:28,704 --> 00:21:30,332
I really like all
of my instructors,
467
00:21:30,405 --> 00:21:32,931
especially my Biology teacher
Professor Kaman.
468
00:21:33,208 --> 00:21:34,208
He's a riot.
469
00:21:34,209 --> 00:21:35,438
You and your roommate
getting along?
470
00:21:35,510 --> 00:21:36,808
Oh, yeah, Ally's great.
471
00:21:36,878 --> 00:21:37,878
We get along well.
472
00:21:37,879 --> 00:21:38,612
Good.
473
00:21:38,613 --> 00:21:40,172
You were always good
at making friends.
474
00:21:41,283 --> 00:21:43,479
Meeting new people
every day it seems.
475
00:21:43,552 --> 00:21:44,679
Did you find a church yet?
476
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:45,453
No not yet.
477
00:21:45,454 --> 00:21:47,480
I've just been so busy
getting used to everything.
478
00:21:47,556 --> 00:21:48,556
But I will.
479
00:21:49,558 --> 00:21:51,186
Come on, we're going to be
late for church.
480
00:21:51,259 --> 00:21:52,259
We need to go.
481
00:21:52,894 --> 00:21:53,894
I'm here.
482
00:21:53,895 --> 00:21:54,762
Honey, we live so close,
483
00:21:54,763 --> 00:21:56,197
it's embarrassing
when we're late.
484
00:21:56,198 --> 00:21:56,864
Stephen?
485
00:21:56,865 --> 00:21:57,765
Is also here.
486
00:21:57,766 --> 00:21:58,432
Let's go Rachel.
487
00:21:58,433 --> 00:21:59,457
We'll meet you
in the car Stephen.
488
00:21:59,458 --> 00:22:00,301
Okay.
489
00:22:00,302 --> 00:22:01,429
Dad, will you get
my Bible for me.
490
00:22:01,503 --> 00:22:02,503
Sure.
491
00:22:25,694 --> 00:22:26,992
I'm headed out.
492
00:22:27,262 --> 00:22:28,457
It feels like you just got here.
493
00:22:28,530 --> 00:22:29,657
I'll be back to visit soon.
494
00:22:31,633 --> 00:22:32,633
Bye Dad.
495
00:22:32,634 --> 00:22:33,401
Love you.
496
00:22:33,402 --> 00:22:34,301
Drive careful.
497
00:22:34,302 --> 00:22:35,302
Love you too.
498
00:22:37,039 --> 00:22:38,337
Let us know when you get there.
499
00:22:38,407 --> 00:22:39,407
Rachel: I will.
500
00:22:48,417 --> 00:22:49,417
Bye.
501
00:22:56,591 --> 00:22:57,957
She seems to be doing well.
502
00:22:58,026 --> 00:23:00,757
She's made some friends,
likes her classes.
503
00:23:00,829 --> 00:23:03,890
Seems to really like that one
with Professor Kaman.
504
00:23:03,932 --> 00:23:04,932
I'm glad.
505
00:23:22,317 --> 00:23:23,615
The guy's an evolutionist
506
00:23:23,685 --> 00:23:25,517
and a big proponent
of it Pastor.
507
00:23:25,587 --> 00:23:26,748
He's written several
published articles.
508
00:23:26,822 --> 00:23:28,450
I mean it's a long list.
509
00:23:28,523 --> 00:23:30,458
And there's nothing
in the whole course description
510
00:23:30,525 --> 00:23:33,290
about biblical creation as even
a plausible alternative
511
00:23:33,361 --> 00:23:34,590
from what I could see.
512
00:23:34,663 --> 00:23:35,892
Does that surprise you?
513
00:23:35,964 --> 00:23:37,455
All our public schools
and universities
514
00:23:37,532 --> 00:23:40,468
teach evolution as the answer
to the origins of life.
515
00:23:40,535 --> 00:23:41,969
Even some of our
Christian schools
516
00:23:42,037 --> 00:23:43,801
are buying into
the evolution theory
517
00:23:43,872 --> 00:23:45,534
as part of the creation account.
518
00:23:45,607 --> 00:23:46,905
You're kidding.
519
00:23:46,975 --> 00:23:49,410
The attack on Genesis
is a real battleground.
520
00:23:49,478 --> 00:23:50,844
Well, I certainly
don't like the idea
521
00:23:50,912 --> 00:23:52,904
of Rachel sitting
under this guy in class.
522
00:23:52,981 --> 00:23:54,711
Have you had a chance
to speak to her about it?
523
00:23:54,783 --> 00:23:57,651
No not yet, but I will.
524
00:23:57,719 --> 00:23:59,620
Actually, she's not the one
I'd like to talk to.
525
00:24:02,824 --> 00:24:05,851
Mister Blair, may I dialogue
with you for a moment?
526
00:24:05,927 --> 00:24:06,986
Ah, yes sir.
527
00:24:07,062 --> 00:24:09,429
I understand you're here
on a track scholarship.
528
00:24:09,498 --> 00:24:11,091
You're a fifteen hundred
meter man.
529
00:24:11,366 --> 00:24:12,390
Yes I am.
530
00:24:12,467 --> 00:24:13,696
Congratulations.
531
00:24:13,768 --> 00:24:16,067
I use to do a bit of track
myself back in the day
532
00:24:16,138 --> 00:24:18,903
so I know a little of what
you guys go through.
533
00:24:18,974 --> 00:24:22,035
Do you mind my asking what's
your best time in that event?
534
00:24:22,110 --> 00:24:23,703
Ah, four-o-three.
535
00:24:23,778 --> 00:24:25,076
Four minutes and three seconds.
536
00:24:25,147 --> 00:24:27,048
That is very impressive running.
537
00:24:27,115 --> 00:24:29,084
That must be the best time
on your team.
538
00:24:29,085 --> 00:24:30,050
No.
539
00:24:30,051 --> 00:24:31,917
There's actually three guys
ahead of me right now.
540
00:24:31,987 --> 00:24:32,987
Three.
541
00:24:32,988 --> 00:24:34,081
Well then, I guess you've got
542
00:24:34,156 --> 00:24:36,022
a little competition
ahead of you, don't you.
543
00:24:37,592 --> 00:24:38,592
Yeah, I'll get 'em.
544
00:24:38,593 --> 00:24:40,084
That's the spirit.
545
00:24:40,162 --> 00:24:42,063
You got what ten teams
in the conference.
546
00:24:42,130 --> 00:24:43,758
I think so.
547
00:24:43,832 --> 00:24:45,130
No there are I checked.
548
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,426
So, lets say there
are four fellas on each team
549
00:24:47,502 --> 00:24:50,028
running the fifteen hundred,
that's forty runners,
550
00:24:50,105 --> 00:24:51,437
where do you think
you'd place among them?
551
00:24:52,774 --> 00:24:53,798
Not sure sir.
552
00:24:53,875 --> 00:24:54,899
Thirtieth maybe?
553
00:24:54,976 --> 00:24:56,035
Could be.
554
00:24:56,111 --> 00:24:58,740
Well then I guess you got a lot
of competition ahead of you.
555
00:24:59,781 --> 00:25:01,613
Yeah, yeah I guess so.
556
00:25:01,683 --> 00:25:03,948
Well you're a freshman,
we'll give you time to move up
557
00:25:04,019 --> 00:25:06,511
through the conference
which I am sure you will.
558
00:25:06,588 --> 00:25:11,390
Besides, we can look at this
whole thing from another angle.
559
00:25:11,459 --> 00:25:13,394
For one thing, Mr. Blair
can certainly outrun anyone
560
00:25:13,461 --> 00:25:14,861
in this class.
561
00:25:14,896 --> 00:25:15,896
But better than that,
562
00:25:15,897 --> 00:25:17,832
if he had run the
fifteen hundred meters
563
00:25:17,899 --> 00:25:21,927
in that kind of time
in the 1896 Olympics,
564
00:25:22,003 --> 00:25:24,404
he would have won gold.
565
00:25:24,472 --> 00:25:26,634
He'd won by thirty seconds.
566
00:25:26,708 --> 00:25:29,576
And if he had done the same
in 1904 Olympics,
567
00:25:29,644 --> 00:25:31,636
he would have won
by two seconds.
568
00:25:31,713 --> 00:25:33,909
Do you see
what's happening here?
569
00:25:33,982 --> 00:25:38,647
As we evolve, we're getting
faster, stronger, smarter.
570
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,019
Look at the technological leaps
that have happened
571
00:25:41,089 --> 00:25:43,422
just in the last fifty years.
572
00:25:43,491 --> 00:25:45,858
Imagine what our species
is going to be like
573
00:25:45,927 --> 00:25:48,795
a hundred years from now.
574
00:25:48,863 --> 00:25:51,799
How cool would it be
to stick around to see that?
575
00:25:56,471 --> 00:25:57,471
Hey.
576
00:25:57,539 --> 00:25:58,563
I figured you'd be here.
577
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,700
A few of us are going downtown
to grab a bite to eat
578
00:26:00,775 --> 00:26:02,209
and there's a jazz band playing.
579
00:26:02,477 --> 00:26:03,672
Why don't you call Tyler
and come with us?
580
00:26:03,745 --> 00:26:05,145
I can't, I just got here
581
00:26:05,213 --> 00:26:07,011
and I've got to finish this
for Kaman's class.
582
00:26:07,082 --> 00:26:08,573
Ally: Can't you do it later?
583
00:26:08,650 --> 00:26:09,845
Its not due till Thursday.
584
00:26:09,846 --> 00:26:10,584
Rachel: I know.
585
00:26:10,585 --> 00:26:11,917
But I've got other work
to do too.
586
00:26:11,987 --> 00:26:13,046
You're so studious.
587
00:26:13,121 --> 00:26:15,454
Okay, well if you change
your mind, call me.
588
00:26:15,455 --> 00:26:16,056
Okay.
589
00:26:16,057 --> 00:26:18,652
Have fun.
590
00:26:18,727 --> 00:26:19,751
You're taking Kaman's class?
591
00:26:20,762 --> 00:26:21,957
Pardon.
592
00:26:22,030 --> 00:26:23,521
Sorry, couldn't help
but overhear.
593
00:26:23,598 --> 00:26:24,930
You're taking
Professor Kaman's class.
594
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,229
Yes I am.
595
00:26:26,230 --> 00:26:27,101
You too?
596
00:26:27,102 --> 00:26:28,968
No, I had him
a couple of years ago.
597
00:26:29,037 --> 00:26:30,130
His class is so interesting.
598
00:26:30,205 --> 00:26:31,833
Didn't you like him?
599
00:26:31,906 --> 00:26:33,534
Like him, yeah.
600
00:26:33,608 --> 00:26:34,632
He's seems like a nice guy.
601
00:26:34,709 --> 00:26:38,476
Agree with him,
that's a different story.
602
00:26:38,546 --> 00:26:41,141
Don't you think Professor Kaman
has some good concepts.
603
00:26:41,216 --> 00:26:42,216
He could be right.
604
00:26:44,019 --> 00:26:45,214
It looks you've got
a lot work to do,
605
00:26:45,287 --> 00:26:48,519
and I was just on
my way out myself, so.
606
00:26:48,590 --> 00:26:51,082
By the way, my name's Evan,
Evan Carlson.
607
00:26:51,159 --> 00:26:52,627
Nice to meet you...
608
00:26:52,694 --> 00:26:53,821
Rachel Whitaker.
609
00:26:54,863 --> 00:26:57,492
Alright, see around
Rachel Whitaker.
610
00:26:57,565 --> 00:26:59,193
Yeah, see ya.
611
00:27:01,536 --> 00:27:02,536
By the way Rachel.
612
00:27:04,205 --> 00:27:05,571
He's not right.
613
00:27:11,746 --> 00:27:13,612
Luke: You sure those girls
are going to be there?
614
00:27:13,682 --> 00:27:14,877
Jason: They told me
they were coming.
615
00:27:14,949 --> 00:27:16,611
Luke: Just remember,
I get first pick.
616
00:27:16,685 --> 00:27:18,017
Jason: Yeah, right.
617
00:27:18,086 --> 00:27:20,021
You'll be lucky if one of them
even says hi to you.
618
00:27:20,088 --> 00:27:22,023
Tyler: Don't worry Luke,
Jason ain't going to get anybody
619
00:27:22,090 --> 00:27:23,285
so you'll get your pick.
620
00:27:23,558 --> 00:27:24,753
Jason: Okay, how about
you worry about
621
00:27:24,826 --> 00:27:26,089
your own deal you got going on.
622
00:27:26,161 --> 00:27:28,096
Luke: Tyler still playing
that game with Rachel?
623
00:27:28,163 --> 00:27:29,927
Jason: Oh yeah,
and striking out.
624
00:27:29,998 --> 00:27:32,593
Tyler: Actually, we're building
a meaningful relationship,
625
00:27:32,667 --> 00:27:35,227
something you two amateurs
wouldn't know anything about.
626
00:27:35,303 --> 00:27:36,862
Jason: Which after
translation means,
627
00:27:36,938 --> 00:27:38,907
he's not getting anywhere.
628
00:27:38,973 --> 00:27:40,942
Come on Tyler man, I told you,
you should just dump her.
629
00:27:41,009 --> 00:27:42,170
Look boys.
630
00:27:42,243 --> 00:27:43,734
I'm not just going
to let someone crack
631
00:27:43,812 --> 00:27:45,576
two eggs over my head
and come away empty.
632
00:27:45,577 --> 00:27:46,246
Alright?
633
00:27:46,247 --> 00:27:48,682
I'm just not as impatient
as Jason over here.
634
00:27:48,750 --> 00:27:50,309
My little plan will play out.
635
00:27:50,585 --> 00:27:51,746
Just wait and see.
636
00:27:51,820 --> 00:27:53,015
I just talked to Rachel,
637
00:27:53,088 --> 00:27:54,647
I told her I could take
the day off tomorrow
638
00:27:54,723 --> 00:27:55,884
and we'd ride up
for a quick visit.
639
00:27:55,957 --> 00:27:57,653
She said she'd love to have us.
640
00:27:57,726 --> 00:27:59,888
We'll take her out to early
dinner and then drive back.
641
00:27:59,961 --> 00:28:01,054
Up and back in one day?
642
00:28:01,129 --> 00:28:03,564
Don't worry, I'll drive,
you can sleep on the way home.
643
00:28:09,137 --> 00:28:10,137
Hi Mom.
644
00:28:10,138 --> 00:28:11,138
Hi honey.
645
00:28:11,172 --> 00:28:13,607
I can't believe you guys
decided to come up here today.
646
00:28:13,675 --> 00:28:14,802
Well, it was your father's idea.
647
00:28:14,876 --> 00:28:15,876
Where is Dad?
648
00:28:18,246 --> 00:28:19,246
Professor Kaman?
649
00:28:19,247 --> 00:28:20,247
Yes.
650
00:28:20,248 --> 00:28:21,181
My name is Stephen Whitaker.
651
00:28:21,182 --> 00:28:22,582
May I speak with you
for a moment?
652
00:28:22,650 --> 00:28:24,676
Sure.
I'm sorry, have we met?
653
00:28:24,753 --> 00:28:28,155
No, but my daughter is in
your freshman Biology class.
654
00:28:28,223 --> 00:28:29,223
Rachel Whitaker.
655
00:28:29,224 --> 00:28:30,157
Ah Rachel.
656
00:28:30,158 --> 00:28:31,820
She's a pleasure
to have in class.
657
00:28:31,893 --> 00:28:33,020
Thank you.
658
00:28:33,094 --> 00:28:35,029
Professor Kaman,
I don't mean to come off
659
00:28:35,096 --> 00:28:37,292
so direct
or with any disrespect,
660
00:28:37,365 --> 00:28:40,335
but I'm concerned about what
you're teaching in your class.
661
00:28:40,402 --> 00:28:41,597
Is that so?
662
00:28:42,737 --> 00:28:44,069
Can you give me an example?
663
00:28:44,139 --> 00:28:45,801
Well, it seems your class
deals quite a bit
664
00:28:45,874 --> 00:28:47,365
with the subject of evolution.
665
00:28:47,642 --> 00:28:48,642
Yes it does.
666
00:28:48,710 --> 00:28:50,975
Can you explain to me
why you teach only evolution?
667
00:28:51,045 --> 00:28:54,948
Sure, but first let me
ask you Mr. Whitaker,
668
00:28:55,016 --> 00:28:56,712
are you a religious man?
669
00:28:56,785 --> 00:28:57,844
A religious man?
670
00:28:57,919 --> 00:28:59,888
Well you believe in God
and the Bible.
671
00:28:59,954 --> 00:29:01,149
Yes sir I do.
672
00:29:01,222 --> 00:29:02,383
And does that help you?
673
00:29:02,657 --> 00:29:03,750
Help me?
674
00:29:03,825 --> 00:29:06,317
Does that help you to be
at peace with yourself?
675
00:29:06,394 --> 00:29:07,919
Yes it does.
676
00:29:07,996 --> 00:29:09,089
Well then I think that's great
677
00:29:09,164 --> 00:29:11,759
and I would encourage you
to go on believing.
678
00:29:11,833 --> 00:29:14,200
But you're teaching evolution.
679
00:29:14,269 --> 00:29:18,138
Mr. Whitaker, I teach what
my textbooks tells me to teach.
680
00:29:18,206 --> 00:29:20,903
It comes from real people who
have conducted real experiments
681
00:29:20,975 --> 00:29:22,841
and observed real evidence
682
00:29:22,911 --> 00:29:25,779
and frankly,
I'm at peace with that.
683
00:29:25,847 --> 00:29:27,145
But it goes against
the core beliefs
684
00:29:27,215 --> 00:29:29,411
of everything we've been
teaching Rachel all her life,
685
00:29:29,684 --> 00:29:31,277
against what Christianity
stands for.
686
00:29:32,053 --> 00:29:33,385
Dad.
687
00:29:33,386 --> 00:29:34,321
Hello Rachel.
688
00:29:34,322 --> 00:29:35,322
What are you doing here?
689
00:29:35,356 --> 00:29:37,791
I came by to talk
to your instructor.
690
00:29:37,859 --> 00:29:38,859
But why?
691
00:29:38,927 --> 00:29:40,828
Well I just wanted to stop
by for a minute.
692
00:29:41,896 --> 00:29:42,920
Hello Rachel.
693
00:29:42,997 --> 00:29:44,124
Professor Kaman.
694
00:29:44,199 --> 00:29:47,431
Mr. Whitaker, I've got to meet
with another student momentarily
695
00:29:47,702 --> 00:29:49,728
so I'm afraid we're going to
have to pick up this discussion
696
00:29:49,804 --> 00:29:50,828
at another time.
697
00:29:50,905 --> 00:29:52,032
But I tell you what.
698
00:29:52,106 --> 00:29:53,199
You strongly believe
699
00:29:53,274 --> 00:29:55,903
in the creation story
from the Bible, right?
700
00:29:55,977 --> 00:29:58,208
Yes, that's correct
but I don't call it a story.
701
00:29:58,279 --> 00:30:00,839
Every month the university
sponsors a debate
702
00:30:00,915 --> 00:30:03,009
that is also open to the public.
703
00:30:03,084 --> 00:30:06,350
My Department will be hosting
the next one on October 19th.
704
00:30:06,421 --> 00:30:09,914
Why don't you and I
debate this issue?
705
00:30:09,991 --> 00:30:13,450
It would be a great opportunity
for you to express your views.
706
00:30:13,728 --> 00:30:15,924
They're moderated,
they're orderly.
707
00:30:15,997 --> 00:30:17,397
Evolution versus Creationism.
708
00:30:17,465 --> 00:30:18,694
What do you say?
709
00:30:18,766 --> 00:30:19,961
No, I couldn't do that.
710
00:30:20,034 --> 00:30:21,400
I mean, I never intended to-
711
00:30:21,469 --> 00:30:23,995
Professor Kaman,
my dad can't debate you.
712
00:30:24,072 --> 00:30:27,167
Rachel, your father has
the passion of his beliefs,
713
00:30:27,242 --> 00:30:29,438
that's what makes
for a great debate.
714
00:30:29,511 --> 00:30:32,948
You can read off a prepared
text, that's done all the time.
715
00:30:33,014 --> 00:30:34,778
But, Dad you can't.
716
00:30:34,849 --> 00:30:36,750
Now wait a minute
Professor Kaman.
717
00:30:36,818 --> 00:30:38,116
I did not come here
with any intention
718
00:30:38,186 --> 00:30:39,984
of doing a debate with you.
719
00:30:40,054 --> 00:30:41,054
I understand Mr. Whitaker.
720
00:30:41,055 --> 00:30:43,115
It's just that I think
this topic would be
721
00:30:43,191 --> 00:30:45,854
so valuable for the students.
722
00:30:45,927 --> 00:30:49,921
And you do believe
in your viewpoint, don't you?
723
00:30:53,768 --> 00:30:56,033
I can't believe Dad agreed
to debate Professor Kaman.
724
00:30:56,104 --> 00:30:57,197
Mom, you've got to stop this.
725
00:30:57,272 --> 00:30:58,501
The man cornered me Rachel.
726
00:30:58,773 --> 00:30:59,773
What was I supposed to say?
727
00:30:59,841 --> 00:31:00,968
You could have said no.
728
00:31:01,042 --> 00:31:03,238
This man obviously
has no respect for God
729
00:31:03,311 --> 00:31:04,802
or anything that we believe in.
730
00:31:04,879 --> 00:31:07,872
But Professor Kaman doesn't
claim to be a Christian either.
731
00:31:07,949 --> 00:31:10,111
Do you know how embarrassing
this is going to be for me?
732
00:31:10,184 --> 00:31:12,983
I don't want to embarrass
anyone, especially you.
733
00:31:13,054 --> 00:31:15,853
Dad, you're not going to convert
Professor Kaman to your beliefs
734
00:31:15,924 --> 00:31:17,051
so why even try?
735
00:31:17,125 --> 00:31:19,390
Actually, it's not his beliefs
that I am concerned about.
736
00:31:19,460 --> 00:31:21,156
What's that supposed to mean?
737
00:31:21,229 --> 00:31:23,164
I feel this man
is affecting you Rachel.
738
00:31:23,231 --> 00:31:24,961
That he's causing you
to change your views.
739
00:31:24,962 --> 00:31:25,866
That's ridiculous.
740
00:31:25,867 --> 00:31:27,062
Mom, say something.
741
00:31:27,135 --> 00:31:29,969
Honey, your father's just
concerned about you that's all.
742
00:31:30,038 --> 00:31:31,472
I can't believe
this is happening.
743
00:31:31,539 --> 00:31:33,337
And I'm certainly not happy
with what this Kaman guy
744
00:31:33,338 --> 00:31:34,338
is teaching you.
745
00:31:35,577 --> 00:31:37,170
Let's just go to dinner.
746
00:31:45,253 --> 00:31:46,312
Phil Jamison.
747
00:31:46,387 --> 00:31:47,387
Marcus Kaman.
748
00:31:47,455 --> 00:31:48,855
Professor.
749
00:31:48,923 --> 00:31:51,791
Hey Phil, I think I've got
the topic for the next debate.
750
00:31:51,859 --> 00:31:54,988
How does evolution
versus creationism sound?
751
00:31:55,063 --> 00:31:57,931
Ah ha, well unless
you changed teams,
752
00:31:57,999 --> 00:31:59,331
I know what side you fall on.
753
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,528
We'll note it on
the calendar of events.
754
00:32:01,603 --> 00:32:04,072
It seems some of my views
are being challenged.
755
00:32:04,138 --> 00:32:05,902
Now who in their right mind
756
00:32:05,974 --> 00:32:08,068
would challenge
anything you say.
757
00:32:08,142 --> 00:32:10,475
The father of one
of my students.
758
00:32:10,545 --> 00:32:11,545
The plot thickens.
759
00:32:11,613 --> 00:32:14,378
Yeah, I got a religious dad
who doesn't like his little girl
760
00:32:14,449 --> 00:32:15,849
thinking for herself.
761
00:32:15,917 --> 00:32:17,215
I see.
762
00:32:17,285 --> 00:32:19,311
I might have to do
a little publicity on this
763
00:32:19,387 --> 00:32:20,548
just to build the crowd.
764
00:32:20,622 --> 00:32:23,353
Well, I got his name and number
right here if you need them.
765
00:32:23,424 --> 00:32:24,585
Yeah, no problem, here you go.
766
00:32:26,861 --> 00:32:29,558
Evan, got our topic
for the next debate,
767
00:32:29,631 --> 00:32:31,327
and I think this one
will be of interest to you.
768
00:32:31,399 --> 00:32:32,594
It seems the father
of one of the students
769
00:32:32,867 --> 00:32:34,426
is challenging Professor Kaman.
770
00:32:35,269 --> 00:32:37,261
Evolution versus Creationism.
771
00:32:37,338 --> 00:32:38,931
I wanna do a story on this
772
00:32:39,007 --> 00:32:40,600
prior to the debate
and build it up.
773
00:32:40,875 --> 00:32:42,104
There's the father's
contact information.
774
00:32:42,176 --> 00:32:44,543
See what you can find out,
you know his purpose, motive,
775
00:32:44,612 --> 00:32:45,612
what he hopes to accomplish.
776
00:32:45,647 --> 00:32:47,013
I'll get Shane to do
the same thing
777
00:32:47,081 --> 00:32:48,081
with Professor Kaman.
778
00:32:48,116 --> 00:32:49,311
Okay sir, will do.
779
00:32:49,312 --> 00:32:50,283
Who knows, maybe we can get
780
00:32:50,284 --> 00:32:51,877
some community interest
on this one.
781
00:32:55,323 --> 00:32:56,323
Whitaker?
782
00:32:58,393 --> 00:32:59,393
Before we begin today,
783
00:32:59,394 --> 00:33:01,225
I'd like to make a
brief announcement.
784
00:33:01,295 --> 00:33:03,594
Each month the University
sponsors a debate
785
00:33:03,665 --> 00:33:04,963
at the Fine Arts Center
786
00:33:05,033 --> 00:33:07,264
and our department
will be hosting the next one.
787
00:33:07,335 --> 00:33:09,167
Yours truly will be taking part
788
00:33:09,237 --> 00:33:12,901
as it's a topic that is near
and dear to my heart,
789
00:33:12,974 --> 00:33:16,035
evolution versus creationism.
790
00:33:16,110 --> 00:33:18,579
Now we have a slightly
unusual situation this time
791
00:33:18,646 --> 00:33:20,376
in that my debate opponent
792
00:33:20,448 --> 00:33:24,078
is the father of one
of the students in this class,
793
00:33:24,152 --> 00:33:26,348
Miss Rachel Whitaker.
794
00:33:26,421 --> 00:33:28,652
I don't doubt that Miss Whitaker
finds this situation
795
00:33:28,923 --> 00:33:31,256
a little embarrassing
but I want her to know
796
00:33:31,325 --> 00:33:34,090
that she has my complete
support at this time
797
00:33:34,162 --> 00:33:36,893
when she is beginning
to think for herself.
798
00:33:36,964 --> 00:33:40,492
I just wanted the rest of you
to be aware of the situation,
799
00:33:40,568 --> 00:33:43,060
and I hope you're all planning
on coming to the debate
800
00:33:43,137 --> 00:33:47,666
as a part of your participation
in this course.
801
00:33:47,942 --> 00:33:49,535
Okay?
Let's get to work,
802
00:33:49,610 --> 00:33:51,909
open your books to chapter six.
803
00:33:56,217 --> 00:33:57,276
We just left after dinner.
804
00:33:57,351 --> 00:33:58,580
I felt it best to give
her some time.
805
00:33:58,653 --> 00:34:00,212
She was pretty upset.
806
00:34:00,288 --> 00:34:02,553
I agree, sometimes
it is the right thing to do.
807
00:34:02,623 --> 00:34:03,989
Maybe I shouldn't have accepted
808
00:34:04,058 --> 00:34:05,151
but I felt put on the spot.
809
00:34:05,226 --> 00:34:06,250
Now I feel like
Rachel's against me
810
00:34:06,327 --> 00:34:07,327
because of this.
811
00:34:07,328 --> 00:34:08,990
She's not against you Stephen.
812
00:34:09,063 --> 00:34:10,622
Plus I'm not a public speaker
like he is.
813
00:34:10,698 --> 00:34:12,326
I've never done anything
like this before.
814
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,235
Look, you know we're here
to help you any way we can.
815
00:34:16,304 --> 00:34:17,363
I appreciate that.
816
00:34:35,389 --> 00:34:37,153
Rachel, right?
817
00:34:37,154 --> 00:34:38,125
My name's Evan.
818
00:34:38,126 --> 00:34:39,092
We met the other day.
819
00:34:39,093 --> 00:34:40,425
Can I talk to you for a minute?
820
00:34:40,495 --> 00:34:43,158
Not right now,
I'm got a lot on my mind.
821
00:34:43,231 --> 00:34:45,393
Is your father's name Stephen?
822
00:34:45,466 --> 00:34:48,197
I can't believe my father went
to see one of my Professors
823
00:34:48,269 --> 00:34:50,238
and then like some
self-righteous fundamentalist
824
00:34:50,304 --> 00:34:53,274
gets into a discussion about
creation and evolution.
825
00:34:53,341 --> 00:34:55,071
I'm sorry you're so upset.
826
00:34:55,143 --> 00:34:56,167
I mean, do you have any idea
827
00:34:56,244 --> 00:34:58,110
how embarrassing this
is going to be for me?
828
00:34:58,179 --> 00:35:00,148
Rachel, I wouldn't be looking
at it like that.
829
00:35:00,214 --> 00:35:01,477
How would you like it
if your parent
830
00:35:01,549 --> 00:35:04,018
was going to debate the most
popular Professor on campus?
831
00:35:04,085 --> 00:35:05,417
Put yourself in my shoes.
832
00:35:05,418 --> 00:35:06,319
I understand,
833
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,346
but I don't necessarily think
it's a bad thing.
834
00:35:08,422 --> 00:35:09,422
It's not like
Professor Kaman's preaching
835
00:35:09,457 --> 00:35:11,289
some sort of gospel truth here.
836
00:35:11,292 --> 00:35:12,292
I've gotta stop this.
837
00:35:17,031 --> 00:35:18,031
It's Rachel.
838
00:35:19,634 --> 00:35:20,634
Rachel.
839
00:35:20,635 --> 00:35:21,568
Hi Dad.
840
00:35:21,569 --> 00:35:24,471
I'm calling to ask you
to please stop this debate.
841
00:35:24,539 --> 00:35:26,440
Rachel we were
just talking about you.
842
00:35:26,507 --> 00:35:27,600
I am glad you called.
843
00:35:27,675 --> 00:35:30,144
This is going to ruin me
on campus Dad.
844
00:35:30,211 --> 00:35:31,304
I am not trying to hurt you.
845
00:35:31,379 --> 00:35:32,472
But you are.
846
00:35:32,547 --> 00:35:34,709
Rachel, this is
an important issue.
847
00:35:34,782 --> 00:35:36,774
You're not going to change
Professor Kaman's mind.
848
00:35:37,051 --> 00:35:39,247
Then how does he believe
the universe was created?
849
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,481
What does he teach you in class?
850
00:35:40,555 --> 00:35:42,251
That there was a big bang
or something.
851
00:35:42,323 --> 00:35:46,158
Dad, if you love me,
you will stop this debate.
852
00:35:46,227 --> 00:35:47,227
Please don't say that.
853
00:35:47,295 --> 00:35:48,627
You must stop this debate.
854
00:35:48,696 --> 00:35:49,696
Rachel please.
855
00:35:49,764 --> 00:35:51,392
You must stop it!
856
00:35:54,335 --> 00:35:55,335
She hung up.
857
00:35:56,804 --> 00:35:58,170
You can't leave it like that.
858
00:35:58,172 --> 00:35:59,172
You gotta call her back.
859
00:36:02,643 --> 00:36:04,168
Hi, this is Rachel Whitaker,
860
00:36:04,245 --> 00:36:05,245
I'm not here right now...
861
00:36:05,313 --> 00:36:06,508
Voicemail.
862
00:36:15,156 --> 00:36:16,156
Hey.
863
00:36:16,157 --> 00:36:16,857
Hey.
864
00:36:16,858 --> 00:36:18,156
I set up a meeting
with Professor Kaman
865
00:36:18,226 --> 00:36:19,285
to do that interview.
866
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:20,589
Did you talk to that father yet?
867
00:36:20,661 --> 00:36:22,186
Oh no, I was getting
ready to call him.
868
00:36:22,263 --> 00:36:23,263
Before you do,
869
00:36:23,297 --> 00:36:24,560
I think you should
check this out.
870
00:36:24,632 --> 00:36:26,191
What?
871
00:36:26,267 --> 00:36:28,133
Professor Kaman was
in the news yesterday.
872
00:36:28,202 --> 00:36:29,202
Front page story.
873
00:36:29,237 --> 00:36:31,103
We didn't run a story
on Kaman yesterday.
874
00:36:31,172 --> 00:36:33,835
Yeah, well we did
twelve years ago.
875
00:36:34,108 --> 00:36:35,303
It appears our dear Professor
876
00:36:35,376 --> 00:36:38,141
got one of his colleagues
fired over this same issue.
877
00:36:38,212 --> 00:36:39,212
What?
878
00:36:39,247 --> 00:36:41,148
Yeah, some instructor
named Portland
879
00:36:41,215 --> 00:36:43,207
refused to teach evolution
in his biology class
880
00:36:43,284 --> 00:36:45,219
and Kaman got him ousted.
881
00:36:45,286 --> 00:36:46,286
It's all there.
882
00:36:48,122 --> 00:36:52,492
Oh and by the way,
when you talk to that Dad,
883
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:53,619
tell him I said good luck.
884
00:36:58,165 --> 00:36:59,531
Listen to what it says
in this high school textbook
885
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,193
I picked up at the library.
886
00:37:01,269 --> 00:37:03,795
"Humans came
from apelike ancestors.
887
00:37:03,871 --> 00:37:06,272
"There is nothing supernatural
about the origins
888
00:37:06,340 --> 00:37:07,467
of human beings."
889
00:37:07,541 --> 00:37:09,203
How can they say that
and get away with it?
890
00:37:09,277 --> 00:37:10,277
I don't know but they are.
891
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:14,439
Stephen Whitaker.
892
00:37:14,482 --> 00:37:15,482
Mr. Whitaker.
893
00:37:15,483 --> 00:37:17,543
This is Evan Carlson,
calling from the University.
894
00:37:17,618 --> 00:37:19,553
I am a student on staff
at the campus paper here
895
00:37:19,620 --> 00:37:21,555
and our editor wants to do
a preliminary story
896
00:37:21,622 --> 00:37:22,885
about the upcoming debate.
897
00:37:23,157 --> 00:37:24,455
Would you be able
to meet up sir?
898
00:37:24,458 --> 00:37:25,458
Meet?
899
00:37:25,459 --> 00:37:27,155
Well I live about
three hours from there.
900
00:37:27,194 --> 00:37:28,194
Yes, I know.
901
00:37:28,195 --> 00:37:29,595
I was thinking we could
meet halfway.
902
00:37:29,664 --> 00:37:32,429
Can't we just take care of this
over the phone?
903
00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:36,562
I know Rachel sir
and I'm aware of the situation.
904
00:37:36,637 --> 00:37:38,606
I'm a Christian,
and I'm on your side.
905
00:37:38,673 --> 00:37:40,642
I've got some information that
may prove to be helpful to you
906
00:37:40,708 --> 00:37:42,540
but I'd rather talk to you
about it in person.
907
00:37:44,245 --> 00:37:46,340
Kaman is smart and clever.
908
00:37:46,414 --> 00:37:47,677
He'll take what you say,
twist it around,
909
00:37:47,748 --> 00:37:48,841
question you, corner you.
910
00:37:48,916 --> 00:37:52,216
I've seen him debate before
and he is good at it.
911
00:37:52,286 --> 00:37:54,414
And I've never debated
anyone before in my life.
912
00:37:54,488 --> 00:37:56,923
Sounds like a mismatch to me.
913
00:37:57,191 --> 00:37:58,716
How many people have
come to these events?
914
00:37:58,793 --> 00:38:00,853
Normally not many,
twenty five, thirty,
915
00:38:00,928 --> 00:38:02,624
but there will be
more at this one
916
00:38:02,697 --> 00:38:04,222
especially since
Kaman's doing it.
917
00:38:04,298 --> 00:38:06,597
He'll probably make all
his classes attend as well.
918
00:38:06,667 --> 00:38:08,533
Much to Rachel's
delight I'm sure.
919
00:38:08,602 --> 00:38:11,401
Plus the editor is running
this story before the debate
920
00:38:11,472 --> 00:38:12,531
which isn't normal,
921
00:38:12,606 --> 00:38:15,542
and he is planning to contact
the local media,
922
00:38:15,609 --> 00:38:17,271
could get a pretty
good audience.
923
00:38:17,345 --> 00:38:18,938
Great.
More pressure.
924
00:38:19,213 --> 00:38:21,478
Look, I got some material
in the car with good information
925
00:38:21,549 --> 00:38:23,347
on science from a
Biblical perspective,
926
00:38:23,348 --> 00:38:24,317
I'll give it to you.
927
00:38:24,318 --> 00:38:25,809
Thanks.
Appreciate it.
928
00:38:25,886 --> 00:38:27,946
We can sit here.
929
00:38:28,222 --> 00:38:30,316
You seem pretty serious
about this.
930
00:38:30,391 --> 00:38:33,623
Maybe you should be
the one debating Kaman.
931
00:38:33,694 --> 00:38:36,892
God didn't give me
the opportunity sir.
932
00:38:36,964 --> 00:38:41,527
He gave it to you and I think
what you're doing is great.
933
00:38:41,602 --> 00:38:43,264
Rachel sure doesn't.
934
00:38:43,337 --> 00:38:45,363
I found out something
interesting.
935
00:38:45,439 --> 00:38:47,908
Twelve years ago at the
University there was an incident
936
00:38:47,975 --> 00:38:52,208
involving Kaman and another
Professor on the same subject.
937
00:38:52,279 --> 00:38:54,441
Joseph G. Portland.
938
00:38:54,515 --> 00:38:56,211
Portland used to teach
Kaman's class,
939
00:38:56,283 --> 00:38:57,649
except for he taught creation.
940
00:38:57,718 --> 00:38:59,778
Kaman joined the
university staff that year,
941
00:38:59,854 --> 00:39:01,516
didn't like it
and got him fired.
942
00:39:01,589 --> 00:39:03,319
That's Portland's contact info.
943
00:39:03,391 --> 00:39:04,391
He lives nearby.
944
00:39:04,458 --> 00:39:06,222
Maybe you could give him a call.
945
00:39:06,293 --> 00:39:07,727
Or even try to go see him.
946
00:39:07,795 --> 00:39:09,263
He could offer
some good insight.
947
00:39:09,330 --> 00:39:11,265
I'll keep this in mind.
948
00:39:11,332 --> 00:39:12,356
And now I do have
several questions
949
00:39:12,433 --> 00:39:13,765
I'd need to ask you
for the article.
950
00:39:13,834 --> 00:39:14,927
Sure.
951
00:39:15,002 --> 00:39:18,439
I think it's interesting
you chose to meet here.
952
00:39:18,506 --> 00:39:20,805
I figured it was about halfway.
953
00:39:20,875 --> 00:39:23,276
This place is very
special to me.
954
00:39:23,344 --> 00:39:24,539
What do you mean?
955
00:39:24,612 --> 00:39:26,547
Let me show you something.
956
00:39:29,617 --> 00:39:32,314
This is about the spot.
957
00:39:32,386 --> 00:39:33,386
When Rachel was ten years old,
958
00:39:33,454 --> 00:39:34,786
we were spending
the day here together
959
00:39:34,855 --> 00:39:36,721
and she was over
by this river playing.
960
00:39:36,791 --> 00:39:38,487
I remember she was
looking for stones
961
00:39:38,559 --> 00:39:39,788
that she could throw
in the river.
962
00:39:39,860 --> 00:39:42,386
Suddenly though,
she found a fifty cent piece
963
00:39:42,463 --> 00:39:43,624
lying on the ground
964
00:39:43,697 --> 00:39:45,563
and just after she reached down
and picked it up,
965
00:39:45,633 --> 00:39:48,899
a boy grabbed her hand
and took it from her.
966
00:39:48,969 --> 00:39:51,495
I saw this from over there
and noticed how he taunted her
967
00:39:51,572 --> 00:39:54,633
as he walked away and went
back towards his father.
968
00:39:54,708 --> 00:39:56,677
Rachel of course was
upset over losing the coin
969
00:39:56,744 --> 00:39:59,407
because she found it first and
came over to complain to me.
970
00:40:01,082 --> 00:40:05,383
I then tried to use that
incident as an example.
971
00:40:05,453 --> 00:40:07,547
I told her it was wrong for the
boy to take that coin from her
972
00:40:07,621 --> 00:40:08,919
and that stealing was a sin.
973
00:40:08,989 --> 00:40:12,756
But, I also pointed out
to her how all of us
974
00:40:12,827 --> 00:40:15,296
have sinned against God
in our own lives.
975
00:40:15,362 --> 00:40:17,957
In essence, we've stolen
many coins from Him.
976
00:40:18,032 --> 00:40:22,902
And the only one who can forgive
us for our sins is Jesus.
977
00:40:22,970 --> 00:40:25,530
Rachel seemed
to understand this,
978
00:40:25,606 --> 00:40:27,507
we prayed to the Lord together
979
00:40:27,575 --> 00:40:30,875
and I believe that day
she became a Christian.
980
00:40:32,710 --> 00:40:33,710
That's great.
981
00:40:35,683 --> 00:40:38,016
Hard for me to believe someone
is now causing my little girl
982
00:40:38,085 --> 00:40:40,577
to drift away from
what she's been taught.
983
00:40:43,057 --> 00:40:44,057
Let's go over
to that picnic table
984
00:40:44,058 --> 00:40:46,391
and I'll answer those
questions for you.
985
00:40:58,706 --> 00:40:59,706
Oh hey, how'd it go?
986
00:40:59,707 --> 00:41:00,640
It went well.
987
00:41:00,641 --> 00:41:02,974
Evan's a committed believer
and was very helpful.
988
00:41:03,043 --> 00:41:04,043
I need to make
a quick phone call
989
00:41:04,111 --> 00:41:05,374
and then I'll tell you
more about it.
990
00:41:05,446 --> 00:41:06,641
Okay.
991
00:41:30,905 --> 00:41:31,905
Hello.
992
00:41:31,906 --> 00:41:33,932
Professor Portland?
993
00:41:33,941 --> 00:41:34,941
This is he.
994
00:41:34,942 --> 00:41:38,538
Hi, my name is Stephen Whitaker
and I have an unusual situation
995
00:41:38,612 --> 00:41:40,137
I'd like to speak
to about for a moment.
996
00:41:40,414 --> 00:41:41,643
What is this pertaining to?
997
00:41:41,715 --> 00:41:43,707
Well, first, I am a Christian
998
00:41:43,784 --> 00:41:47,118
and my daughter goes to the
university you used to teach at.
999
00:41:47,188 --> 00:41:48,781
That's right I don't
teach anymore.
1000
00:41:48,856 --> 00:41:50,017
Yes sir, I know.
1001
00:41:50,090 --> 00:41:52,491
The reason I am calling is
because she's taking a class
1002
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,496
from a Professor Kaman and
I'd like to ask you about him.
1003
00:41:55,563 --> 00:41:57,464
I'm not interested
in discussing anything
1004
00:41:57,531 --> 00:41:59,727
having to do with the name
you just mentioned.
1005
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,599
But I have a debate scheduled
with Professor Kaman
1006
00:42:02,670 --> 00:42:04,764
on the subject of creation
versus evolution
1007
00:42:04,838 --> 00:42:06,704
and I was hoping
you could help me.
1008
00:42:06,774 --> 00:42:08,003
I said I'm not interested.
1009
00:42:10,911 --> 00:42:13,437
Hello, Professor?
1010
00:42:21,589 --> 00:42:23,990
Tyler, what am I going to do?
1011
00:42:24,058 --> 00:42:25,185
You might have to let him do it.
1012
00:42:25,459 --> 00:42:27,451
No.
1013
00:42:27,528 --> 00:42:29,053
Well look, first of all,
1014
00:42:29,129 --> 00:42:30,654
nobody goes to those
things anyway.
1015
00:42:30,731 --> 00:42:33,724
You told me everyone went
to them when we first met.
1016
00:42:33,801 --> 00:42:36,532
I wanted you to think that
I was into stuff like that,
1017
00:42:36,604 --> 00:42:39,130
you know, with you studying
in the library.
1018
00:42:39,206 --> 00:42:42,438
Look, you saw how many
people were there.
1019
00:42:42,509 --> 00:42:43,772
I've been to a couple
of them before
1020
00:42:43,844 --> 00:42:45,608
and they're lucky
if they get ten people.
1021
00:42:47,715 --> 00:42:52,016
Listen Rach, nobody takes
those debates seriously
1022
00:42:52,086 --> 00:42:54,783
so if I were you
I'd stop worrying about it.
1023
00:42:54,855 --> 00:42:57,086
But what you do need
to take seriously
1024
00:42:57,157 --> 00:43:00,093
is our flag football party
coming up weekend after next.
1025
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,028
Stay in your dorm from now
until after the debate,
1026
00:43:03,097 --> 00:43:04,793
but that Saturday night,
you're with me.
1027
00:43:04,865 --> 00:43:05,865
Okay?
1028
00:43:07,201 --> 00:43:08,201
Okay?
1029
00:43:08,202 --> 00:43:09,670
Okay.
1030
00:43:09,737 --> 00:43:10,737
Good.
1031
00:43:12,506 --> 00:43:13,506
Now, if it will make you
feel better,
1032
00:43:13,507 --> 00:43:14,873
call your Dad one more time.
1033
00:43:17,811 --> 00:43:18,811
Rachel?
1034
00:43:18,812 --> 00:43:19,871
Dad, I am calling again
1035
00:43:19,947 --> 00:43:21,779
to ask you to please not
do this debate.
1036
00:43:21,849 --> 00:43:22,849
But Rachel.
1037
00:43:22,850 --> 00:43:25,911
You debating Professor Kaman
is not going to solve anything.
1038
00:43:25,986 --> 00:43:27,545
Rachel, honey,
you don't know everything
1039
00:43:27,621 --> 00:43:28,816
your Professor believes.
1040
00:43:28,889 --> 00:43:30,118
I've been doing
a lot of research,
1041
00:43:30,190 --> 00:43:32,557
reading some of the reports
he's published.
1042
00:43:32,626 --> 00:43:34,925
This guy stands against
everything that we believe in.
1043
00:43:34,995 --> 00:43:37,021
Evan told me some things
about him also.
1044
00:43:37,998 --> 00:43:38,998
Evan?
1045
00:43:38,999 --> 00:43:39,999
How do you know Evan?
1046
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,178
You went and met with my father.
1047
00:43:54,248 --> 00:43:56,046
Gave him books,
talked to him about Kaman.
1048
00:43:56,116 --> 00:43:57,209
You're encouraging him?
1049
00:43:57,284 --> 00:43:59,879
Hold on, first of all,
I had to speak with your father
1050
00:43:59,953 --> 00:44:02,115
since the editor assigned me
to do a story on the debate.
1051
00:44:02,189 --> 00:44:03,953
And of course
I'm encouraging him.
1052
00:44:04,024 --> 00:44:05,788
This is an opportunity
for the truth.
1053
00:44:05,859 --> 00:44:07,851
My father is no match
for Professor Kaman
1054
00:44:07,895 --> 00:44:08,895
and you know it.
1055
00:44:08,896 --> 00:44:10,660
Your father might do
better than you think.
1056
00:44:10,731 --> 00:44:12,700
I don't know how I get myself
into these situations.
1057
00:44:12,701 --> 00:44:13,700
I can answer that one.
1058
00:44:13,701 --> 00:44:15,727
You let Kaman
play with your mind.
1059
00:44:15,803 --> 00:44:17,931
Professor Kaman
is a very intelligent man
1060
00:44:18,005 --> 00:44:19,200
who makes good points.
1061
00:44:19,273 --> 00:44:21,208
No, Kaman's a
gifted communicator
1062
00:44:21,275 --> 00:44:23,301
who only makes it seem like
he's making good points.
1063
00:44:23,577 --> 00:44:25,045
Did he do the chicken
and the egg thing yet?
1064
00:44:25,046 --> 00:44:25,845
Yes.
1065
00:44:25,846 --> 00:44:26,905
And he said the egg, right?
1066
00:44:26,980 --> 00:44:28,710
Then gave you some line
about scientific research
1067
00:44:28,782 --> 00:44:29,977
and the fossil record.
1068
00:44:30,050 --> 00:44:31,050
And what if he's correct?
1069
00:44:31,051 --> 00:44:32,815
Rachel, think about it.
1070
00:44:32,886 --> 00:44:34,320
Life comes from life.
1071
00:44:34,588 --> 00:44:35,886
It doesn't come
from non-life.
1072
00:44:35,956 --> 00:44:38,323
God created the chicken first,
just like the Bible says,
1073
00:44:38,592 --> 00:44:40,857
and then set it up so that life
could reproduce itself.
1074
00:44:40,928 --> 00:44:43,295
Kaman doesn't believe in God
so he teaches the opposite.
1075
00:44:43,296 --> 00:44:44,163
Come on Evan.
1076
00:44:44,164 --> 00:44:44,931
You're not helping.
1077
00:44:44,932 --> 00:44:46,560
Just answer me
this one question.
1078
00:44:46,633 --> 00:44:47,931
Did God create this world
1079
00:44:48,001 --> 00:44:49,867
or did it come about through
evolution like Kaman says?
1080
00:44:49,937 --> 00:44:50,937
Evan.
1081
00:44:50,938 --> 00:44:52,338
Just answer
the question, please?
1082
00:44:52,606 --> 00:44:53,606
No.
1083
00:44:54,742 --> 00:44:55,835
I'm not going to answer that.
1084
00:44:57,611 --> 00:44:58,611
You just did.
1085
00:44:59,947 --> 00:45:00,971
Just forget it.
1086
00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:25,138
I just don't think I have
a good enough handle
1087
00:45:25,205 --> 00:45:26,639
on this subject.
1088
00:45:26,707 --> 00:45:29,336
Stephen, you know enough,
just share it.
1089
00:45:29,410 --> 00:45:30,878
That's all you need to do.
1090
00:45:30,944 --> 00:45:32,378
I don't know.
1091
00:45:32,646 --> 00:45:35,377
This outline you've shown me
is good and you won't be alone.
1092
00:45:35,649 --> 00:45:37,743
A group of us from the church
are coming to support you.
1093
00:45:38,986 --> 00:45:40,045
Thanks.
1094
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:41,247
Professor Kaman will probably
1095
00:45:41,321 --> 00:45:42,880
get all of his students
to attend,
1096
00:45:42,956 --> 00:45:44,185
and I don't think
too many of them
1097
00:45:44,258 --> 00:45:45,258
are going to be rooting for me.
1098
00:46:08,916 --> 00:46:09,916
Hey.
1099
00:46:11,084 --> 00:46:13,349
Hey, I thought you were
going to Tyler's game.
1100
00:46:13,420 --> 00:46:14,888
I have too much work to do.
1101
00:46:14,889 --> 00:46:15,855
I'm going to the library.
1102
00:46:15,856 --> 00:46:17,347
Maybe I can find a
corner to hide in.
1103
00:46:17,424 --> 00:46:19,017
Rachel, not all
the students agree
1104
00:46:19,026 --> 00:46:20,026
with professor Kaman.
1105
00:46:20,027 --> 00:46:20,760
Yeah?
1106
00:46:20,761 --> 00:46:22,855
Cuz the only guy around here
I know of who doesn't, is Evan.
1107
00:46:27,134 --> 00:46:29,763
She's going through a
mini-crisis, that's all.
1108
00:46:29,837 --> 00:46:31,772
Dude, just admit that you
guessed wrong and move on.
1109
00:46:31,839 --> 00:46:33,034
Yeah, we won't hold it
against ya.
1110
00:46:33,106 --> 00:46:34,972
I didn't guess wrong.
1111
00:46:35,042 --> 00:46:36,874
She's interested!
1112
00:46:36,944 --> 00:46:39,038
I just didn't expect this deal
with her Dad popping up.
1113
00:46:39,112 --> 00:46:40,842
You're wasting your time.
1114
00:46:40,914 --> 00:46:42,746
Plus she's way too religious.
1115
00:46:42,816 --> 00:46:44,785
She can't be that religious
if she's with Tyler.
1116
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,119
Alright look,
our flag football party
1117
00:46:47,187 --> 00:46:48,187
is next weekend.
1118
00:46:48,188 --> 00:46:49,713
That will be the night
I make my move.
1119
00:46:49,790 --> 00:46:51,850
Then I'll let you know
how religious she is.
1120
00:46:55,062 --> 00:46:56,428
I don't know why
you're wasting your time
1121
00:46:56,497 --> 00:46:57,897
driving all the way out here,
1122
00:46:57,965 --> 00:46:59,297
didn't I say
I wasn't interested.
1123
00:46:59,366 --> 00:47:00,732
Well sir, I thought
if I could explain
1124
00:47:00,734 --> 00:47:01,734
the situation to you in person.
1125
00:47:01,735 --> 00:47:03,795
I know the situation.
1126
00:47:03,871 --> 00:47:05,703
Kaman is brainwashing
your daughter's mind
1127
00:47:05,772 --> 00:47:07,764
like he does all the students
that take his classes.
1128
00:47:07,841 --> 00:47:09,366
I was hoping you could
give me some insight
1129
00:47:09,443 --> 00:47:11,173
that would help me prepare.
1130
00:47:11,245 --> 00:47:12,245
Why are you debating him?
1131
00:47:12,279 --> 00:47:13,713
It wasn't my idea.
1132
00:47:13,780 --> 00:47:15,305
What he challenged you
and you accepted?
1133
00:47:16,116 --> 00:47:17,482
If I were you,
I'd get out of it.
1134
00:47:17,751 --> 00:47:18,751
I was hoping you could help me.
1135
00:47:18,785 --> 00:47:20,151
I mean you know
the topic so well.
1136
00:47:20,220 --> 00:47:22,314
Read a book,
lot of good ones out there.
1137
00:47:22,389 --> 00:47:23,389
But you know Kaman.
1138
00:47:25,359 --> 00:47:27,328
I want nothing to do
with that man.
1139
00:47:27,394 --> 00:47:28,862
That was a long time ago.
1140
00:47:30,831 --> 00:47:33,494
That university was my life.
1141
00:47:33,767 --> 00:47:35,235
I wasn't going to teach
evolutionary lies
1142
00:47:35,302 --> 00:47:36,463
from those textbooks.
1143
00:47:36,537 --> 00:47:39,405
Then one day because of Kaman,
it all gets taken away.
1144
00:47:39,473 --> 00:47:40,941
Maybe it got taken away
1145
00:47:41,008 --> 00:47:43,034
because you were making
an impact for the Lord.
1146
00:47:43,110 --> 00:47:44,442
This is a battle we're in.
1147
00:47:44,511 --> 00:47:46,207
I lost mine.
1148
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,875
Professor Portland,
there are so many people
1149
00:47:48,949 --> 00:47:50,508
that you could be influencing
with your life
1150
00:47:50,784 --> 00:47:52,252
and the gifts that
God has given you.
1151
00:47:52,319 --> 00:47:55,050
I haven't taught at that
university for twelve years.
1152
00:47:55,122 --> 00:47:56,385
I'm out of the game.
1153
00:47:56,456 --> 00:47:58,948
We should never stop trying
to share the Lord with people.
1154
00:47:59,026 --> 00:48:00,961
You remember,
for God so loved the world.
1155
00:48:01,028 --> 00:48:02,462
I said I'm out of the game.
1156
00:48:03,363 --> 00:48:06,891
I'm trying to forget this,
not relive it.
1157
00:48:06,967 --> 00:48:08,094
Would you please leave?
1158
00:48:10,804 --> 00:48:11,999
But Professor Portland.
1159
00:48:12,072 --> 00:48:14,098
I asked you to leave.
1160
00:48:18,178 --> 00:48:20,238
I don't believe the lies either
1161
00:48:20,314 --> 00:48:22,215
but it still comes down
to a choice we all make.
1162
00:48:23,850 --> 00:48:25,113
And by the way,
1163
00:48:25,185 --> 00:48:27,245
a Christian is never
out of the game.
1164
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:34,560
You got nothing from Portland?
1165
00:48:34,828 --> 00:48:36,023
Nothing.
1166
00:48:36,096 --> 00:48:37,792
He still seems bitter
about the whole thing.
1167
00:48:37,864 --> 00:48:38,864
He asked me to leave.
1168
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:41,967
Well Mr. Jamison's contacted
some of the local media.
1169
00:48:42,035 --> 00:48:43,526
It looks like they're going
to pick up on it.
1170
00:48:47,274 --> 00:48:48,572
Mr. Whitaker?
1171
00:48:48,842 --> 00:48:49,842
You still there?
1172
00:48:51,511 --> 00:48:53,309
Yes, I'm here.
1173
00:48:53,380 --> 00:48:55,178
You have people praying
for you sir.
1174
00:48:55,248 --> 00:48:56,248
You have supporters.
1175
00:48:57,484 --> 00:49:01,148
Just makes it tough when I know
Rachel's not one of them.
1176
00:49:01,221 --> 00:49:03,588
Thanks Evan,
I'll talk to you later.
1177
00:49:03,857 --> 00:49:04,857
Alright bye.
1178
00:49:19,940 --> 00:49:22,569
Hey, I'll catch up
with you later.
1179
00:49:22,643 --> 00:49:23,975
Uh, excuse me,
1180
00:49:24,044 --> 00:49:25,945
your Dad's the guy that's gonna
debate Kaman, right?
1181
00:49:26,013 --> 00:49:27,311
Why do you ask?
1182
00:49:27,381 --> 00:49:29,009
I'm in your Bio class.
1183
00:49:29,082 --> 00:49:31,313
Why would anybody
wanna debate Kaman?
1184
00:49:31,351 --> 00:49:32,351
He doesn't.
1185
00:49:32,352 --> 00:49:33,547
I don't want him to.
1186
00:49:33,620 --> 00:49:35,111
Have you ever see
that thing Kaman does
1187
00:49:35,188 --> 00:49:37,020
where he shows
how we all came from apes?
1188
00:49:37,021 --> 00:49:37,890
Pardon?
1189
00:49:37,891 --> 00:49:39,951
How we all came from apes.
1190
00:49:40,027 --> 00:49:41,027
What is it?
1191
00:49:41,028 --> 00:49:41,894
How do you know?
1192
00:49:41,895 --> 00:49:44,126
I stayed after class one day
heard him go through it.
1193
00:49:44,197 --> 00:49:46,029
He'll make your father
look like a complete idiot
1194
00:49:46,030 --> 00:49:46,899
with that example.
1195
00:49:46,900 --> 00:49:48,562
Look I told you
I don't want him to do it.
1196
00:49:48,635 --> 00:49:50,536
Excuse me,
couldn't help but overhear.
1197
00:49:50,604 --> 00:49:52,129
Are you talking about
Professor Kaman
1198
00:49:52,205 --> 00:49:53,205
when he goes through his routine
1199
00:49:53,240 --> 00:49:55,004
about how we all came from apes?
1200
00:49:55,075 --> 00:49:56,304
Yeah.
Have you seen it?
1201
00:49:56,376 --> 00:49:57,605
Yeah, I've seen it.
1202
00:49:57,678 --> 00:49:59,306
I thought it was great.
1203
00:50:00,347 --> 00:50:01,542
Let me ask you something,
1204
00:50:01,615 --> 00:50:03,641
does your mother
look like an ape?
1205
00:50:03,917 --> 00:50:05,249
What'd you say?
1206
00:50:05,318 --> 00:50:07,048
Does your mother
look like an ape?
1207
00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:08,418
Watch it man.
1208
00:50:08,488 --> 00:50:10,582
I'll assume that's a no.
1209
00:50:10,583 --> 00:50:11,257
How about your grandmother?
1210
00:50:11,258 --> 00:50:12,624
Does she look like an ape?
1211
00:50:12,693 --> 00:50:15,185
What?
Man, who are you?
1212
00:50:15,262 --> 00:50:16,389
I'll take that as another no.
1213
00:50:16,463 --> 00:50:18,193
So your mother
doesn't look like an ape
1214
00:50:18,265 --> 00:50:19,893
and neither does
your grandmother.
1215
00:50:19,966 --> 00:50:20,990
How about your
great grandmother,
1216
00:50:21,068 --> 00:50:23,060
do pictures go that
far back in your family,
1217
00:50:23,136 --> 00:50:24,434
does she look like an ape?
1218
00:50:24,504 --> 00:50:25,904
What's your deal man?
1219
00:50:25,972 --> 00:50:27,201
Kaman says we all
come from apes.
1220
00:50:27,274 --> 00:50:29,470
So which one in your
family was the monkey?
1221
00:50:32,079 --> 00:50:33,172
I got news for you.
1222
00:50:33,246 --> 00:50:34,407
You can take it all the way back
1223
00:50:34,481 --> 00:50:36,677
to the very first man
and woman, Adam and Eve,
1224
00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:39,681
and guess what,
no one was ever an ape.
1225
00:50:39,686 --> 00:50:40,686
You know why?
1226
00:50:40,687 --> 00:50:44,317
Cause apes come from apes
and humans come from humans.
1227
00:50:44,391 --> 00:50:48,419
Now, who's going to make who
look like a complete idiot?
1228
00:50:52,466 --> 00:50:53,466
Whatever.
1229
00:50:55,535 --> 00:50:57,026
I don't need you to defend me.
1230
00:50:59,973 --> 00:51:00,973
I wasn't defending you.
1231
00:51:25,532 --> 00:51:27,091
My picture and everything.
1232
00:51:27,167 --> 00:51:30,001
Hey, I know a good story
when it comes my way.
1233
00:51:30,070 --> 00:51:32,130
I'm getting some
great feedback already.
1234
00:51:32,205 --> 00:51:35,505
I'd say you and your team put
together a very nice article.
1235
00:51:35,575 --> 00:51:38,067
Thank you, I'm shooting
for a full house on this one.
1236
00:51:38,145 --> 00:51:40,137
I just hope your
opponent shows up.
1237
00:51:40,213 --> 00:51:42,079
Any reason to think he won't?
1238
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:42,782
No.
1239
00:51:42,783 --> 00:51:45,116
But I've got a feeling
after this debate is done,
1240
00:51:45,185 --> 00:51:46,744
he'll wish he'd stayed home.
1241
00:51:47,020 --> 00:51:48,750
Hah.
You're too kind.
1242
00:51:49,022 --> 00:51:50,650
I'll see you Thursday night.
1243
00:51:50,724 --> 00:51:52,249
Look, its not that hard.
1244
00:51:52,325 --> 00:51:53,759
All you gotta do
is memorize this stuff
1245
00:51:54,027 --> 00:51:56,087
and then after the test
you can just forget it.
1246
00:51:56,163 --> 00:51:57,163
That's what Tyler and I do.
1247
00:51:57,197 --> 00:51:59,223
This is so stupid.
1248
00:51:59,299 --> 00:52:00,631
How's this ever
gonna help you in life?
1249
00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:03,101
It's not, that's why we
memorize and then we forget.
1250
00:52:03,170 --> 00:52:04,331
Just like I keep telling Tyler,
1251
00:52:04,404 --> 00:52:06,202
you've just gotta forget
that Rachel girl.
1252
00:52:06,273 --> 00:52:08,765
But you know him,
he'll hang in there.
1253
00:52:09,042 --> 00:52:10,042
Maybe he really likes her.
1254
00:52:10,076 --> 00:52:11,237
He likes her because she's cute.
1255
00:52:11,238 --> 00:52:12,178
That's all.
1256
00:52:12,179 --> 00:52:14,114
I wouldn't let anyone
crack eggs over my head.
1257
00:52:14,181 --> 00:52:15,410
I don't care how cute she is.
1258
00:52:15,482 --> 00:52:17,508
Yeah, Tyler and his stupid plan.
1259
00:52:17,509 --> 00:52:18,384
Well we'll see what happens
1260
00:52:18,385 --> 00:52:20,081
at the flag football party
this weekend,
1261
00:52:20,153 --> 00:52:22,088
that's when he's supposed
to make his move.
1262
00:52:22,155 --> 00:52:24,351
Eventually he'll see
I was right about her.
1263
00:52:38,071 --> 00:52:39,071
What is so important
1264
00:52:39,072 --> 00:52:41,303
that you need to talk
to me right now?
1265
00:52:41,304 --> 00:52:42,274
Could we sit down for a minute?
1266
00:52:42,275 --> 00:52:43,470
Come on Evan.
1267
00:52:43,543 --> 00:52:45,671
Could we just sit down
for a minute please.
1268
00:52:53,086 --> 00:52:54,086
What?
1269
00:52:55,155 --> 00:52:56,248
Rachel, I'm sorry to bother you
1270
00:52:56,323 --> 00:52:57,347
but I need
to tell you something.
1271
00:52:57,348 --> 00:52:58,190
What you need to do
1272
00:52:58,191 --> 00:52:59,819
is talk my Dad out
of doing this debate.
1273
00:53:01,428 --> 00:53:03,124
You should really listen
to yourself sometime.
1274
00:53:03,196 --> 00:53:04,789
Kaman's sure done
a number on you.
1275
00:53:04,865 --> 00:53:06,561
Why are you so against
Professor Kaman?
1276
00:53:07,500 --> 00:53:08,661
Does this sound familiar?
1277
00:53:08,735 --> 00:53:10,499
Just show up and get a C.
1278
00:53:10,500 --> 00:53:11,437
What?
1279
00:53:11,438 --> 00:53:12,438
Kaman's class.
1280
00:53:12,439 --> 00:53:13,532
He'll give you a C
as your final grade
1281
00:53:13,607 --> 00:53:15,337
if you just show up
without doing any work.
1282
00:53:15,408 --> 00:53:16,408
Didn't you ever
wonder about that?
1283
00:53:16,476 --> 00:53:17,705
I mean no other teacher does it.
1284
00:53:17,777 --> 00:53:20,372
Maybe that's why he's the most
popular instructor on campus.
1285
00:53:20,447 --> 00:53:21,813
Or the one with
the biggest agenda.
1286
00:53:21,882 --> 00:53:23,373
What do mean by that?
1287
00:53:23,450 --> 00:53:25,078
He teaches his evolution lies
1288
00:53:25,151 --> 00:53:27,484
to get students to doubt their
faith in God and the Bible.
1289
00:53:27,554 --> 00:53:29,716
So, you're saying
I'm not a Christian now.
1290
00:53:29,756 --> 00:53:30,756
You tell me.
1291
00:53:30,757 --> 00:53:32,385
I mean, just the other day
you wouldn't even admit
1292
00:53:32,459 --> 00:53:33,859
that God created the world.
1293
00:53:34,127 --> 00:53:35,493
I know God created the world.
1294
00:53:35,494 --> 00:53:36,462
Yeah.
1295
00:53:36,463 --> 00:53:37,463
Committed to that truth?
1296
00:53:39,566 --> 00:53:41,467
Then why are you all over your
Dad for wanting to defend it?
1297
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,877
He's just never done anything
like this before.
1298
00:53:51,144 --> 00:53:52,237
You know why is it
that one Christian
1299
00:53:52,312 --> 00:53:53,541
wants to take a stand
for his faith
1300
00:53:53,613 --> 00:53:55,605
and the next one doesn't?
1301
00:53:55,682 --> 00:53:57,548
Why do some Christians
have convictions about things
1302
00:53:57,617 --> 00:53:58,617
and others don't?
1303
00:54:00,153 --> 00:54:02,679
Maybe the difference lies in how
we first came to the Lord.
1304
00:54:02,756 --> 00:54:05,783
Was it by addition
or submission?
1305
00:54:05,859 --> 00:54:07,691
What do you mean by that?
1306
00:54:07,761 --> 00:54:09,730
It seems to me that a lot of
people have just added Jesus
1307
00:54:09,796 --> 00:54:12,197
to their life,
but that's not it.
1308
00:54:12,265 --> 00:54:13,426
You can't just add Jesus
to your life,
1309
00:54:13,500 --> 00:54:16,436
you must submit
your life to Him.
1310
00:54:16,503 --> 00:54:18,165
There's a big difference.
1311
00:54:18,238 --> 00:54:19,900
So you are saying
I'm not a Christian?
1312
00:54:20,173 --> 00:54:21,903
Only you can answer that one.
1313
00:54:22,175 --> 00:54:23,575
Just leave me alone.
1314
00:54:23,643 --> 00:54:24,643
You can't leave yet.
1315
00:54:24,644 --> 00:54:25,477
Yes I can.
1316
00:54:25,478 --> 00:54:26,741
Rachel,
I came to tell you something.
1317
00:54:26,813 --> 00:54:27,813
I'm not interested.
1318
00:54:28,515 --> 00:54:29,744
Tyler's the one not interested.
1319
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,187
Having you crack
those eggs over his head
1320
00:54:34,254 --> 00:54:35,449
was a set up.
1321
00:54:35,522 --> 00:54:36,522
I just overheard
two of his buddies
1322
00:54:36,523 --> 00:54:39,152
talking about it in the library.
1323
00:54:39,225 --> 00:54:41,456
And that flag football party
this weekend,
1324
00:54:41,528 --> 00:54:42,860
that's when he's going
to make his move.
1325
00:54:44,631 --> 00:54:46,657
Rachel, Tyler only
spends time with you
1326
00:54:46,733 --> 00:54:49,225
because he thinks
you're cute and that's it.
1327
00:54:51,204 --> 00:54:52,638
You're making this up.
1328
00:54:54,841 --> 00:54:55,841
It's the truth Rachel.
1329
00:54:56,876 --> 00:54:57,900
That's why I came over here.
1330
00:54:59,980 --> 00:55:01,414
I thought you should know.
1331
00:55:03,216 --> 00:55:04,445
I don't believe you.
1332
00:55:05,852 --> 00:55:08,651
I wouldn't lie to you.
1333
00:55:08,722 --> 00:55:09,883
But Tyler is.
1334
00:55:11,491 --> 00:55:12,584
Sorry.
1335
00:55:25,472 --> 00:55:26,496
It seems to me
that a lot of people
1336
00:55:26,573 --> 00:55:29,543
have just added Jesus to
their life, but that's not it.
1337
00:55:29,609 --> 00:55:30,975
You can't just add
Jesus to your life,
1338
00:55:31,244 --> 00:55:32,837
you must submit
your life to Him.
1339
00:55:54,634 --> 00:55:59,299
Lord Jesus, I want to submit.
1340
00:56:05,879 --> 00:56:06,879
Rachel?
1341
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:07,880
Hi Dad.
1342
00:56:07,881 --> 00:56:08,847
Are you alright?
1343
00:56:08,848 --> 00:56:10,282
I'm fine.
1344
00:56:12,619 --> 00:56:17,387
Dad first, I want to tell you
how sorry I am.
1345
00:56:27,300 --> 00:56:29,292
I brought you some juice.
1346
00:56:29,369 --> 00:56:30,997
Hey, you're up early.
1347
00:56:33,606 --> 00:56:36,599
Ally, I need to
tell you something.
1348
00:56:38,945 --> 00:56:39,945
Alright that's it.
1349
00:56:39,946 --> 00:56:43,781
A reminder, the debate is
tonight at the Fine Arts Center
1350
00:56:43,850 --> 00:56:46,945
and I strongly encourage
you all to attend.
1351
00:56:47,020 --> 00:56:49,046
Now as for the debate itself,
1352
00:56:49,322 --> 00:56:52,053
I accepted a challenge
that was brought before me.
1353
00:56:52,325 --> 00:56:54,760
It is my obligation
to this University
1354
00:56:54,828 --> 00:56:58,697
and to the students I teach to
defend what I know to be true.
1355
00:56:58,765 --> 00:57:00,893
I do hope I see you there
this evening.
1356
00:57:02,035 --> 00:57:03,035
Dismissed.
1357
00:57:07,340 --> 00:57:09,332
Why don't you go ahead,
I'll catch up later.
1358
00:57:09,342 --> 00:57:10,342
Okay.
1359
00:57:28,595 --> 00:57:30,359
Professor Kaman?
1360
00:57:30,430 --> 00:57:31,864
Yes Rachel.
1361
00:57:31,931 --> 00:57:34,093
You said that my dad was
the one who challenged you
1362
00:57:34,367 --> 00:57:36,700
but that's not really correct.
1363
00:57:36,769 --> 00:57:38,635
I think that you're the one
who challenged him.
1364
00:57:40,874 --> 00:57:43,105
Your father wanted
to confront me on my views,
1365
00:57:43,376 --> 00:57:45,004
I could tell from
the moment I met him.
1366
00:57:45,078 --> 00:57:47,411
I planned to go easy
on him and I will.
1367
00:57:56,089 --> 00:57:58,422
Was there something else
Miss Whitaker?
1368
00:58:01,427 --> 00:58:02,427
Yes sir.
1369
00:58:04,697 --> 00:58:05,697
Well?
1370
00:58:09,402 --> 00:58:10,700
The chicken came first.
1371
00:58:24,417 --> 00:58:26,010
I've been waiting for you
but I'm in a rush.
1372
00:58:26,011 --> 00:58:26,852
I got a game.
1373
00:58:26,853 --> 00:58:28,082
Walk with me please.
1374
00:58:30,623 --> 00:58:31,682
Where we heading,
because like I said,
1375
00:58:31,758 --> 00:58:32,758
I've got a game to get to.
1376
00:58:32,792 --> 00:58:34,021
I can't see you anymore.
1377
00:58:35,461 --> 00:58:36,724
What?
1378
00:58:36,796 --> 00:58:37,796
I can't see you anymore.
1379
00:58:39,098 --> 00:58:41,158
Wait, what,
what brought this on?
1380
00:58:41,434 --> 00:58:43,767
I don't really know
how to say this,
1381
00:58:43,836 --> 00:58:45,805
but I haven't been
fair with you.
1382
00:58:45,806 --> 00:58:46,805
Fair with me?
1383
00:58:46,806 --> 00:58:47,773
What are you talking about?
1384
00:58:47,774 --> 00:58:49,436
I like you Tyler, I do.
1385
00:58:49,509 --> 00:58:52,638
You're such a nice guy and
you've always so kind to me.
1386
00:58:52,639 --> 00:58:53,478
We're not right.
1387
00:58:53,479 --> 00:58:54,479
Not together.
1388
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:55,778
I thought that things
were going great.
1389
00:58:55,848 --> 00:58:57,043
Did someone say
something to you?
1390
00:58:57,116 --> 00:58:58,607
I got right with the LORD.
1391
00:58:59,953 --> 00:59:02,684
And I want to start living
my life to please Him.
1392
00:59:02,755 --> 00:59:04,155
I'd be happy to tell
to you about it
1393
00:59:04,224 --> 00:59:05,715
if you want to hear more.
1394
00:59:07,627 --> 00:59:09,721
No, no, I'm not ready for that.
1395
00:59:09,796 --> 00:59:12,527
I'm sorry, I should have told
you about this much sooner,
1396
00:59:12,599 --> 00:59:15,933
but I was just so selfish
and caught up in my own stuff.
1397
00:59:16,002 --> 00:59:17,903
And for that, I am truly sorry.
1398
00:59:21,808 --> 00:59:23,800
I'm going to be late
for my game.
1399
00:59:27,547 --> 00:59:28,845
Bye Tyler.
1400
00:59:28,915 --> 00:59:31,749
You ain't kidding.
1401
00:59:31,818 --> 00:59:32,818
What did you say to her?
1402
00:59:32,819 --> 00:59:33,518
What?
1403
00:59:33,519 --> 00:59:34,612
What did you say to her?
1404
00:59:34,613 --> 00:59:35,187
What are you doing man?
1405
00:59:35,188 --> 00:59:36,154
What did you tell her?
1406
00:59:36,155 --> 00:59:36,655
Who?
1407
00:59:36,656 --> 00:59:37,522
Rachel!
1408
00:59:37,523 --> 00:59:38,650
I don't know what
you're talking about.
1409
00:59:38,725 --> 00:59:40,216
She turned on me man.
Somehow she knows.
1410
00:59:40,493 --> 00:59:41,825
Well, it wasn't me.
1411
00:59:41,894 --> 00:59:43,226
Well, someone told her.
1412
00:59:43,496 --> 00:59:44,496
It wasn't me.
1413
00:59:45,498 --> 00:59:46,557
Luke, did you say something?
1414
00:59:46,558 --> 00:59:47,266
Not me.
1415
00:59:47,267 --> 00:59:48,758
Well somehow she found out.
1416
00:59:48,835 --> 00:59:50,895
She pulled some religion garbage
on me about a minute ago
1417
00:59:50,896 --> 00:59:51,870
and now we're over.
1418
00:59:51,871 --> 00:59:53,066
Okay, what's the big deal?
1419
00:59:53,072 --> 00:59:54,072
Is it a big deal.
1420
00:59:54,073 --> 00:59:55,769
I wasted a lot of time
on this girl.
1421
00:59:55,842 --> 00:59:57,708
Dude, I told you
she wasn't worth it.
1422
00:59:57,777 --> 00:59:59,507
And you didn't listen to me.
1423
01:00:01,948 --> 01:00:03,007
Somehow she found out.
1424
01:00:44,590 --> 01:00:45,683
Hello Pastor.
1425
01:00:45,758 --> 01:00:46,987
I told you we'd be here.
1426
01:00:47,060 --> 01:00:48,619
And several others
from the church
1427
01:00:48,695 --> 01:00:50,891
have come out as well.
1428
01:00:50,963 --> 01:00:51,963
Thank you for coming.
1429
01:00:52,198 --> 01:00:53,222
Professor Kaman.
1430
01:00:53,299 --> 01:00:54,597
Hey Phil.
1431
01:00:54,667 --> 01:00:57,034
That little paper of yours
has more of a circulation
1432
01:00:57,036 --> 01:00:58,036
than I would have guessed.
1433
01:00:58,037 --> 01:00:59,528
Yes, it's a good crowd.
1434
01:00:59,605 --> 01:01:00,766
I see the visiting team
1435
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:02,240
has some followers here tonight.
1436
01:01:02,308 --> 01:01:03,640
Hey, we're ready to start
1437
01:01:03,710 --> 01:01:05,770
so if you will take your place,
I'll go inform your opponent.
1438
01:01:05,771 --> 01:01:06,771
Got it.
1439
01:01:11,751 --> 01:01:12,751
Stephen Whitaker?
1440
01:01:12,752 --> 01:01:13,251
Yes.
1441
01:01:13,252 --> 01:01:14,982
Phil Jamison, Journalism,
we spoke on the phone.
1442
01:01:15,054 --> 01:01:16,147
Thanks for coming.
1443
01:01:16,222 --> 01:01:17,222
My wife Kimberly.
1444
01:01:17,223 --> 01:01:18,023
It's a pleasure.
1445
01:01:18,024 --> 01:01:18,623
Hi.
1446
01:01:18,624 --> 01:01:19,291
We're ready to begin,
1447
01:01:19,292 --> 01:01:20,692
so if you'll take your place
up there on stage,
1448
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:21,760
we'll get started.
1449
01:01:21,761 --> 01:01:22,990
Sure.
1450
01:01:23,062 --> 01:01:24,724
Okay.
1451
01:01:24,797 --> 01:01:26,129
People are praying for you.
1452
01:01:36,142 --> 01:01:37,701
Hello, hello, hello.
1453
01:01:37,777 --> 01:01:38,873
I'm Phil Jamison.
1454
01:01:38,945 --> 01:01:41,210
I am the Professor of Journalism
here at the University
1455
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,681
and I'd like to welcome
everyone to our debate tonight
1456
01:01:43,750 --> 01:01:47,778
which deals with the subject of
Evolution versus Creationism.
1457
01:01:47,854 --> 01:01:49,049
What a great crowd,
1458
01:01:49,122 --> 01:01:50,750
I'm a little nervous
up here myself,
1459
01:01:50,823 --> 01:01:54,851
I can only imagine what our two
combatants must be feeling.
1460
01:01:54,927 --> 01:01:56,896
It's my best line guys,
it's all I've got.
1461
01:01:58,631 --> 01:02:00,827
Let me introduce to you
our two participants now.
1462
01:02:00,900 --> 01:02:03,369
On my left, speaking
on behalf of Creationism,
1463
01:02:03,636 --> 01:02:05,332
he has a daughter who attends
the university here.
1464
01:02:05,405 --> 01:02:08,239
Please give a warm welcome
to Mister Stephen Whitaker.
1465
01:02:13,646 --> 01:02:17,879
And on my right,
a man who needs no introduction,
1466
01:02:17,950 --> 01:02:20,010
he is arguing on behalf
of Evolution,
1467
01:02:20,086 --> 01:02:21,850
he is from our
Biology department,
1468
01:02:21,921 --> 01:02:25,255
please give a warm welcome
to Professor Marcus Kaman.
1469
01:02:31,664 --> 01:02:33,394
Okay, this is how this
is going to work.
1470
01:02:33,666 --> 01:02:36,761
Both men will are going to give
brief opening statements
1471
01:02:36,836 --> 01:02:39,169
and then they'll be able to
question each other's comments
1472
01:02:39,170 --> 01:02:39,971
and after that,
1473
01:02:39,972 --> 01:02:41,873
we going to open up this forum
to you, the audience,
1474
01:02:41,874 --> 01:02:42,808
for your questions.
1475
01:02:42,809 --> 01:02:43,708
Okay?
1476
01:02:43,709 --> 01:02:44,870
Mister Whitaker, you are first,
1477
01:02:44,944 --> 01:02:46,970
you may begin with
your opening statement.
1478
01:02:51,050 --> 01:02:52,678
Thank you.
1479
01:02:54,387 --> 01:02:55,387
Let me say first,
1480
01:02:55,388 --> 01:02:59,985
that I've never done anything
like this before.
1481
01:03:00,059 --> 01:03:02,858
I do believe though
that the topic at hand
1482
01:03:02,929 --> 01:03:04,761
is an important one and in fact,
1483
01:03:04,831 --> 01:03:06,732
as I prepared for this debate
it became clearer to me
1484
01:03:06,799 --> 01:03:10,031
that it's more important
than I ever realized.
1485
01:03:10,102 --> 01:03:11,832
It seems that when
the question is posed
1486
01:03:11,904 --> 01:03:14,430
as to how life came
to exist on our planet,
1487
01:03:14,474 --> 01:03:15,474
the theory of evolution
1488
01:03:15,475 --> 01:03:18,104
has become the dominant
scientific view
1489
01:03:18,177 --> 01:03:20,043
that is taught in our
schools and universities
1490
01:03:20,112 --> 01:03:22,047
across this great land of ours.
1491
01:03:22,114 --> 01:03:24,140
Frankly, this amazes me.
1492
01:03:24,217 --> 01:03:26,880
The first problem I immediately
see is that evolution
1493
01:03:26,953 --> 01:03:29,115
is not scientific in the
truest sense of the word
1494
01:03:29,188 --> 01:03:31,350
since science deals with
what can be observed
1495
01:03:31,424 --> 01:03:33,950
and reproduced
through experimentation.
1496
01:03:34,026 --> 01:03:35,995
Scientific claims
must be accepted
1497
01:03:36,062 --> 01:03:38,429
only after they have
been verified.
1498
01:03:38,498 --> 01:03:40,831
The origin of life
can be neither observed
1499
01:03:40,900 --> 01:03:43,199
nor reproduced
in any laboratory,
1500
01:03:43,269 --> 01:03:44,897
even though
they try to show us this
1501
01:03:44,971 --> 01:03:47,941
with their illustrations
in the textbooks I studied.
1502
01:03:48,007 --> 01:03:50,841
By definition then,
true naturalistic science
1503
01:03:50,910 --> 01:03:53,141
can furnish no knowledge
about where any life form,
1504
01:03:53,212 --> 01:03:56,205
including the human race,
came from or how it got here.
1505
01:03:56,282 --> 01:03:59,719
If God did not create the
universe than who or what did?
1506
01:03:59,785 --> 01:04:03,415
A big bang that produced
a cosmic explosion?
1507
01:04:03,489 --> 01:04:05,253
What caused it to go bang?
1508
01:04:05,324 --> 01:04:07,486
A chemical reaction?
1509
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:11,492
What organized the original
chemicals or molecules or gases
1510
01:04:11,764 --> 01:04:13,255
or whatever evolutionists
say happened
1511
01:04:13,332 --> 01:04:14,766
to form life here on earth?
1512
01:04:14,834 --> 01:04:19,966
And how did it create
so much detail and beauty
1513
01:04:20,039 --> 01:04:23,271
and design and intelligence?
1514
01:04:23,342 --> 01:04:26,073
Nothing times something
does not equal everything
1515
01:04:26,145 --> 01:04:27,511
and yet, as I see it,
1516
01:04:27,780 --> 01:04:32,047
that is the true definition
of an evolutionary view
1517
01:04:32,118 --> 01:04:34,815
of the universe and what
millions and millions of people
1518
01:04:34,887 --> 01:04:39,052
are placing their trust in as
how life on this earth began.
1519
01:04:39,125 --> 01:04:42,994
The evolutionary world view
is clearly as much a religion
1520
01:04:43,062 --> 01:04:45,088
as any theistic worldview.
1521
01:04:45,164 --> 01:04:47,963
Not only is the
teaching of evolution
1522
01:04:48,034 --> 01:04:49,468
an attack against
those well-known
1523
01:04:49,535 --> 01:04:51,527
first words of the Bible,
"In the beginning,
1524
01:04:51,804 --> 01:04:54,205
God created the heaven
and the earth,"
1525
01:04:54,273 --> 01:04:57,175
but it is an undermining assault
against the authority of God
1526
01:04:57,243 --> 01:04:59,474
which really becomes
the main issue here.
1527
01:04:59,545 --> 01:05:03,414
At least when we're starting
with God as the first cause,
1528
01:05:03,482 --> 01:05:06,281
it seems that everything else
that happens makes sense.
1529
01:05:08,187 --> 01:05:10,850
That's it I guess
for my opening statement.
1530
01:05:10,923 --> 01:05:11,923
Thank you.
1531
01:05:17,463 --> 01:05:19,261
Thank you Mister Whitaker.
1532
01:05:19,332 --> 01:05:22,393
Professor Kaman,
your opening statement please.
1533
01:05:22,468 --> 01:05:24,437
Well first I'd like to say
well done Mister Whitaker,
1534
01:05:24,503 --> 01:05:25,801
very well done.
1535
01:05:25,871 --> 01:05:27,396
You have debated before.
1536
01:05:27,473 --> 01:05:31,843
You put forth some very
compelling questions and ideas.
1537
01:05:31,911 --> 01:05:34,540
In fact, I think if we were
to pass a hat right now,
1538
01:05:34,614 --> 01:05:37,209
you might being in a nice
donation or two.
1539
01:05:39,385 --> 01:05:42,184
I just had a few problems
with what you said
1540
01:05:42,254 --> 01:05:46,282
especially at the end there
about God being the first cause,
1541
01:05:46,359 --> 01:05:48,351
you can't prove any of it.
1542
01:05:52,064 --> 01:05:53,123
Now I know you're going to say
1543
01:05:53,199 --> 01:05:56,397
that it all has to be
taken on faith,
1544
01:05:56,469 --> 01:05:58,438
but that's always
the out on your side.
1545
01:05:58,504 --> 01:06:00,871
That's always the explanation.
1546
01:06:00,940 --> 01:06:04,502
We know what faith is:
it's wishful thinking.
1547
01:06:04,577 --> 01:06:06,045
And in case you haven't noticed,
1548
01:06:06,112 --> 01:06:08,513
things don't always turn out
so good at the end.
1549
01:06:08,581 --> 01:06:10,140
The good guy doesn't always win.
1550
01:06:10,216 --> 01:06:12,617
Wishful thinking
doesn't bring home the bacon
1551
01:06:12,885 --> 01:06:16,378
and it cannot ever be proven.
1552
01:06:16,455 --> 01:06:19,186
But, when it comes
to the evolutionary answer,
1553
01:06:19,258 --> 01:06:24,890
laboratory experimentation and
intensive scientific analysis
1554
01:06:24,964 --> 01:06:28,025
have proven conclusively
that living organisms
1555
01:06:28,100 --> 01:06:30,626
evolved from
nonliving chemicals,
1556
01:06:30,903 --> 01:06:32,963
and what makes that so important
1557
01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:37,306
is that it means that
intelligence wasn't needed
1558
01:06:37,376 --> 01:06:39,436
for life to form
in the beginning.
1559
01:06:39,512 --> 01:06:42,880
We are all descendants
of a common ancestor,
1560
01:06:42,948 --> 01:06:44,541
just as you and your cousins
are descendants
1561
01:06:44,617 --> 01:06:46,609
of a common grandmother.
1562
01:06:46,686 --> 01:06:49,952
And through a process of descent
with modification,
1563
01:06:50,022 --> 01:06:53,959
that common ancestor gave rise
to the fantastic diversity
1564
01:06:54,026 --> 01:06:57,656
that we see in the fossil record
and living all around us today.
1565
01:06:57,930 --> 01:07:00,399
That is proof Mister Whitaker.
1566
01:07:00,466 --> 01:07:02,162
That is scientific proof.
1567
01:07:03,936 --> 01:07:07,930
Evolution means that
we're all distant cousins.
1568
01:07:08,007 --> 01:07:11,500
Man and the oak tree,
the hummingbird and the whale.
1569
01:07:11,577 --> 01:07:15,036
Life is about change
and the sequence of fossils
1570
01:07:15,114 --> 01:07:18,209
in the strata
documents that change.
1571
01:07:18,284 --> 01:07:21,516
And the clear progression
of simpler life forms
1572
01:07:21,587 --> 01:07:24,648
evolving into more complex
life forms is accepted
1573
01:07:24,724 --> 01:07:27,489
by every clear-thinking
scientist mind
1574
01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,962
as irrefutable truth.
1575
01:07:32,298 --> 01:07:37,259
Radiometric dating of the earth,
1576
01:07:37,336 --> 01:07:41,706
shows it to be four point five
billion years old, give or take,
1577
01:07:41,974 --> 01:07:45,308
and the rocks and fossils
that we see all around us
1578
01:07:45,377 --> 01:07:48,609
are millions
and millions of years old.
1579
01:07:48,681 --> 01:07:51,708
That's a lot of time for change,
Mister Whitaker.
1580
01:07:51,984 --> 01:07:54,579
That is time for evolution.
1581
01:07:56,422 --> 01:07:57,422
Thank you.
1582
01:08:07,433 --> 01:08:08,992
Thank you Professor Kaman.
1583
01:08:09,068 --> 01:08:11,299
You may both now question
each other's opening statements.
1584
01:08:11,370 --> 01:08:13,430
Mr. Whitaker?
1585
01:08:13,506 --> 01:08:16,271
I guess my first question
for you Professor Kaman
1586
01:08:16,342 --> 01:08:17,742
and the most important one
1587
01:08:18,010 --> 01:08:21,276
I can think of is how do you
explain away God?
1588
01:08:21,347 --> 01:08:22,610
Explain away?
1589
01:08:22,681 --> 01:08:24,673
Yes, what about God?
1590
01:08:24,750 --> 01:08:27,413
Simply put, man created God.
1591
01:08:28,788 --> 01:08:30,689
Man created God?
1592
01:08:30,756 --> 01:08:33,021
I am a hundred percent
with Freud on this one sir.
1593
01:08:33,092 --> 01:08:34,651
That man created God?
1594
01:08:35,694 --> 01:08:39,256
Dr. Sigmund Freud brilliantly
observed many years ago
1595
01:08:39,331 --> 01:08:42,460
that man is riddled
with deep seated fears
1596
01:08:42,535 --> 01:08:46,336
living as he does in a world
of disease and famine
1597
01:08:46,405 --> 01:08:50,501
and disaster with very little
control over his circumstance
1598
01:08:50,576 --> 01:08:54,035
so yes, he created God.
1599
01:08:54,113 --> 01:08:57,777
He postulated a being
who could deliver him.
1600
01:08:58,050 --> 01:09:00,315
Kind of life
a supernatural sky hook
1601
01:09:00,386 --> 01:09:02,184
that could pull him
out of trouble.
1602
01:09:03,722 --> 01:09:06,123
Man also believed that
he was getting a raw deal
1603
01:09:06,192 --> 01:09:11,096
from just about everybody
so he wanted a cosmic umpire,
1604
01:09:11,163 --> 01:09:14,395
to blow the big whistle
and halt the game
1605
01:09:14,466 --> 01:09:18,164
until everybody got
what they deserved.
1606
01:09:18,237 --> 01:09:22,333
But most of all,
man fears death and extinction,
1607
01:09:22,408 --> 01:09:25,469
and so he needed
a heavenly Father,
1608
01:09:25,544 --> 01:09:30,539
who could take him at the end
to some heavenly place
1609
01:09:30,616 --> 01:09:33,381
that he decided to call heaven,
1610
01:09:33,452 --> 01:09:35,819
all because he couldn't
face the fact
1611
01:09:36,088 --> 01:09:40,048
that eventually he was
going to vanish from existence.
1612
01:09:40,125 --> 01:09:42,754
So, what's the purpose of life
Professor Kaman?
1613
01:09:42,828 --> 01:09:46,128
We live, and then we die
and go back in the earth.
1614
01:09:46,198 --> 01:09:48,292
That's it, there's no afterlife.
1615
01:09:48,367 --> 01:09:50,632
Face the music Mister Whitaker.
1616
01:09:50,703 --> 01:09:53,537
Elvis is dead,
he's left the building.
1617
01:09:56,275 --> 01:09:57,641
In this life,
1618
01:09:57,710 --> 01:09:59,838
we get a chance to make a mark.
1619
01:10:00,112 --> 01:10:01,112
If we do that,
1620
01:10:01,146 --> 01:10:03,615
maybe the next generation
will remember us,
1621
01:10:03,682 --> 01:10:05,548
maybe we'll even
teach them something
1622
01:10:05,618 --> 01:10:08,417
but there is no afterlife.
1623
01:10:08,487 --> 01:10:10,217
I believe there is much
more than that.
1624
01:10:10,289 --> 01:10:12,588
Yeah, you believe
Mister Whitaker
1625
01:10:12,658 --> 01:10:15,253
but do you have any proof
of an afterlife.
1626
01:10:15,254 --> 01:10:15,894
Proof?
1627
01:10:15,895 --> 01:10:16,694
Proof.
1628
01:10:16,695 --> 01:10:18,857
Scientific proof,
any kind of proof?
1629
01:10:19,131 --> 01:10:21,327
The Bibles says
we believe by faith.
1630
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:22,527
Faith in what?
1631
01:10:22,601 --> 01:10:25,867
In a God we can't see
and a book we can't rely on?
1632
01:10:26,138 --> 01:10:28,698
I'd like a little
scientific proof.
1633
01:10:28,774 --> 01:10:30,800
I can't offer scientific proof.
1634
01:10:30,876 --> 01:10:32,742
Well the words in this book
that you hold so sacred,
1635
01:10:32,811 --> 01:10:35,212
how do you even know
they're true?
1636
01:10:35,281 --> 01:10:36,681
The Bible is very trustworthy.
1637
01:10:36,749 --> 01:10:38,581
I didn't ask if it
was trustworthy,
1638
01:10:38,651 --> 01:10:39,880
I asked if it was true.
1639
01:10:40,152 --> 01:10:41,484
The Bible is the word of God.
1640
01:10:41,553 --> 01:10:43,215
Wasn't the Bible written by men?
1641
01:10:43,216 --> 01:10:43,888
Yes it was.
1642
01:10:43,889 --> 01:10:45,653
Then how does that
make it the word of God?
1643
01:10:45,724 --> 01:10:47,158
Look, I can't explain it.
1644
01:10:47,226 --> 01:10:48,694
So, your betting your afterlife
1645
01:10:48,761 --> 01:10:51,890
on a book you can't explain
about a God you can't prove.
1646
01:10:52,164 --> 01:10:54,895
I am sticking with Freud
on this one Mister Whitaker.
1647
01:10:55,167 --> 01:10:57,864
I am definitely
sticking with Freud.
1648
01:10:57,937 --> 01:10:59,337
Freud was wrong!
1649
01:11:05,177 --> 01:11:06,907
Freud was wrong.
1650
01:11:06,908 --> 01:11:07,545
Excuse me sir.
1651
01:11:07,546 --> 01:11:10,482
There will be a time later for
the audience to ask questions.
1652
01:11:10,549 --> 01:11:11,549
It's okay.
1653
01:11:11,617 --> 01:11:13,381
He's my friend and he's with me.
1654
01:11:27,533 --> 01:11:30,662
I decided to get back
in the game.
1655
01:11:30,736 --> 01:11:34,673
Mind if I take over from here.
1656
01:11:34,740 --> 01:11:36,936
Mr. Jamison,
if it would be alright,
1657
01:11:37,209 --> 01:11:39,303
I would like for my friend here
to continue for me.
1658
01:11:40,879 --> 01:11:43,439
Well that's not how
we normally do things.
1659
01:11:43,515 --> 01:11:45,711
Is that acceptable to you
Professor Kaman?
1660
01:11:48,854 --> 01:11:49,854
Proceed.
1661
01:11:59,231 --> 01:12:02,326
You never cease
to amaze me Marcus.
1662
01:12:02,401 --> 01:12:04,836
Of course you are going to agree
with Freud's views on God
1663
01:12:04,903 --> 01:12:11,503
since evolution leaves no room
for a supernatural Creator.
1664
01:12:11,577 --> 01:12:16,675
And since there is no God,
then there are no rules,
1665
01:12:16,749 --> 01:12:18,877
and no one to whom
we must give an account.
1666
01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:23,983
But man didn't create God.
1667
01:12:24,256 --> 01:12:26,919
Freud got that wrong.
1668
01:12:26,992 --> 01:12:30,690
In fact, I would propose to you
the very opposite.
1669
01:12:30,763 --> 01:12:32,698
I believe that if man
had his way,
1670
01:12:32,765 --> 01:12:36,702
he would rather God did not
exist and eliminate God.
1671
01:12:39,638 --> 01:12:41,539
Haven't you noticed,
1672
01:12:41,607 --> 01:12:44,304
whenever anything goes bad
in someone's life
1673
01:12:44,376 --> 01:12:46,777
or there is some
tragic event that occurs,
1674
01:12:46,845 --> 01:12:49,610
people, religious
and non-religious,
1675
01:12:49,681 --> 01:12:51,547
almost inevitably blame God.
1676
01:12:51,617 --> 01:12:55,384
How could God allow this,
how could God allow that?
1677
01:12:57,289 --> 01:12:58,348
No, if man had his way,
1678
01:12:58,424 --> 01:13:02,555
he would rather eliminate God,
not create him.
1679
01:13:02,628 --> 01:13:05,462
He even comes up with
theology that says
1680
01:13:05,531 --> 01:13:07,523
God is dead and
has left the building.
1681
01:13:12,304 --> 01:13:13,670
Sorry to be so rude
to your guests.
1682
01:13:13,739 --> 01:13:20,612
My name is Joseph G. Portland,
Professor Joseph Portland.
1683
01:13:20,679 --> 01:13:21,942
You see, twelve years ago,
1684
01:13:22,014 --> 01:13:24,779
I was the one that taught
Biology here at this university.
1685
01:13:24,850 --> 01:13:26,546
Only I taught from
the perspective
1686
01:13:26,618 --> 01:13:29,850
that God is our Creator
and I refused to teach
1687
01:13:29,922 --> 01:13:35,054
what I felt were evolutionary
lies from the textbook.
1688
01:13:35,327 --> 01:13:36,818
When Professor Kaman
joined our staff,
1689
01:13:36,895 --> 01:13:41,424
he got me fired
over this very issue.
1690
01:13:41,500 --> 01:13:43,594
I despised you Kaman.
1691
01:13:43,669 --> 01:13:46,070
I blamed you
for ruining my career.
1692
01:13:46,071 --> 01:13:47,004
Sadly for me,
1693
01:13:47,005 --> 01:13:49,304
I let you take me
out of the game.
1694
01:13:52,411 --> 01:13:53,411
You're talking about
1695
01:13:53,412 --> 01:13:56,041
how those laboratory
experiments have proven
1696
01:13:56,115 --> 01:13:58,812
that living organisms evolved
from non-living chemicals
1697
01:13:58,884 --> 01:14:01,718
as proof of a naturalistic
origin of life.
1698
01:14:01,787 --> 01:14:04,689
This is just not so.
1699
01:14:04,756 --> 01:14:08,887
Those experiments only showed
that certain organic compounds
1700
01:14:08,961 --> 01:14:12,022
could be formed from
inorganic compounds
1701
01:14:12,097 --> 01:14:15,659
and intelligence was
and is still needed
1702
01:14:15,734 --> 01:14:19,637
since someone had to conduct
and design those experiments.
1703
01:14:19,705 --> 01:14:23,767
Certainly that's far from
creating life in the laboratory.
1704
01:14:23,842 --> 01:14:26,107
And you know that
the amount of information
1705
01:14:26,378 --> 01:14:28,506
contained in the nucleus
of a living cell
1706
01:14:28,580 --> 01:14:31,812
shows that it could not have
evolved from nonliving chemicals
1707
01:14:31,884 --> 01:14:34,718
and that it must have
been created.
1708
01:14:34,786 --> 01:14:36,618
You know the fossil record
1709
01:14:36,688 --> 01:14:38,054
does not show the
continuous development
1710
01:14:38,123 --> 01:14:40,354
of one kind of
creature into another
1711
01:14:40,425 --> 01:14:43,395
and that no one has ever seen
1712
01:14:43,462 --> 01:14:45,897
one kind of plant or animal
1713
01:14:45,964 --> 01:14:48,900
changing into another
of a different kind.
1714
01:14:48,967 --> 01:14:51,459
Dogs change into
different kinds of dogs,
1715
01:14:51,537 --> 01:14:53,403
but they are always dogs.
1716
01:14:53,472 --> 01:14:56,840
And we can breed dogs
to form new varieties,
1717
01:14:56,909 --> 01:14:59,743
but they never turn
into cats or kangaroos
1718
01:14:59,811 --> 01:15:01,541
because they remain
in the boundaries
1719
01:15:01,613 --> 01:15:04,674
that God created for them
in the beginning.
1720
01:15:04,750 --> 01:15:06,810
And you know that there
are layers of assumptions
1721
01:15:06,885 --> 01:15:10,083
used to calculate the age of the
earth using radiometric dating
1722
01:15:10,155 --> 01:15:13,648
so why are you misleading
our audience?
1723
01:15:13,725 --> 01:15:15,921
The earth is not billions
of years old.
1724
01:15:15,994 --> 01:15:18,987
The earth is not millions
of years old, not even close.
1725
01:15:19,064 --> 01:15:21,898
You see, the Professor
and I can go on and on and on
1726
01:15:21,967 --> 01:15:25,165
and bore you with
our technical definitions.
1727
01:15:25,166 --> 01:15:26,103
Whatever he says,
1728
01:15:26,104 --> 01:15:28,869
I have a rebuttal
and back and forth.
1729
01:15:28,941 --> 01:15:32,070
We could go outside right now
and the stars can come down
1730
01:15:32,144 --> 01:15:36,047
and form the words in the sky
God created the world,
1731
01:15:36,048 --> 01:15:37,048
and the evolutionists
1732
01:15:37,049 --> 01:15:39,518
would blame it
on those clever Baptists.
1733
01:15:43,222 --> 01:15:46,750
To me, the most troubling
aspect about this issue
1734
01:15:46,825 --> 01:15:49,192
is that in our society today,
1735
01:15:49,461 --> 01:15:52,158
evolution is being taught in
our schools and universities
1736
01:15:52,231 --> 01:15:56,999
across this land
as a matter of fact.
1737
01:15:57,069 --> 01:16:01,063
But no one can scientifically
prove evolution,
1738
01:16:01,139 --> 01:16:03,165
just as no one can
scientifically prove
1739
01:16:03,242 --> 01:16:04,642
that God created the world,
1740
01:16:04,710 --> 01:16:08,477
since none of us were present
to witness it.
1741
01:16:08,547 --> 01:16:15,920
Both of these teachings then
become a matter of faith.
1742
01:16:15,988 --> 01:16:20,084
The evolutionist has nothing
but vast periods of time,
1743
01:16:20,158 --> 01:16:21,558
random chance events,
1744
01:16:21,627 --> 01:16:23,653
and the ever-changing
ideas of man
1745
01:16:23,729 --> 01:16:25,095
to base his worldview upon.
1746
01:16:25,163 --> 01:16:28,497
While the one who holds to
Creation has his beliefs
1747
01:16:28,567 --> 01:16:32,231
firmly rooted in the truths
contained in the Bible
1748
01:16:32,504 --> 01:16:35,702
and a personal God
who created everything.
1749
01:16:39,544 --> 01:16:40,978
I loved this university.
1750
01:16:42,848 --> 01:16:45,249
I loved teaching my students.
1751
01:16:45,517 --> 01:16:50,717
But one thing got in my way.
1752
01:16:50,789 --> 01:16:53,054
Led to my downfall.
1753
01:16:53,125 --> 01:16:55,685
It wasn't until I was visited
by a new friend
1754
01:16:55,761 --> 01:16:57,252
that I came to realize it.
1755
01:16:57,529 --> 01:17:00,931
And it was not you Marcus.
1756
01:17:00,999 --> 01:17:05,232
I blamed you,
but it was not you.
1757
01:17:05,304 --> 01:17:09,139
It was me and my pride.
1758
01:17:09,207 --> 01:17:12,541
I was the one who was
at fault twelve years ago,
1759
01:17:12,611 --> 01:17:15,638
not in what I was teaching
but in how I went about it.
1760
01:17:15,714 --> 01:17:16,773
I should have taught my students
1761
01:17:16,848 --> 01:17:19,249
to look at both sides
of the evidence
1762
01:17:19,318 --> 01:17:21,913
realizing that
everyone individually
1763
01:17:21,987 --> 01:17:24,013
has to make their own choice.
1764
01:17:24,089 --> 01:17:29,653
Either you are going to look
at life through men's ideas
1765
01:17:29,728 --> 01:17:32,197
or God's word.
1766
01:17:32,264 --> 01:17:36,725
So if evolution,
follow where that leads.
1767
01:17:36,802 --> 01:17:39,897
If God, then serve the Lord.
1768
01:17:41,940 --> 01:17:43,909
We can't prove
anything here tonight,
1769
01:17:43,975 --> 01:17:47,776
we can only present theories.
1770
01:17:47,846 --> 01:17:49,644
You can chance your eternity
1771
01:17:49,715 --> 01:17:52,879
on the views of Freud
and Darwin if you want.
1772
01:17:52,951 --> 01:17:57,286
I'm putting my trust
in Jesus Christ
1773
01:17:57,356 --> 01:18:02,260
who died on the cross
for my sins,
1774
01:18:02,327 --> 01:18:10,030
was buried and rose again
on the third day.
1775
01:18:10,102 --> 01:18:14,597
I know some of you
will call that stupidity.
1776
01:18:14,673 --> 01:18:18,576
I am calling it humility.
1777
01:18:18,643 --> 01:18:23,081
And I will trust
and I will follow Christ
1778
01:18:23,148 --> 01:18:25,879
and wait on the hope of
eternal life that He offers.
1779
01:18:32,290 --> 01:18:33,758
May you find that same hope.
1780
01:18:51,877 --> 01:18:59,250
Marcus, I'm sorry
for my attitude
1781
01:18:59,317 --> 01:19:06,383
and I held bitterness
towards you for a long time.
1782
01:19:06,658 --> 01:19:09,059
I hope you can find it
in your heart to forgive me.
1783
01:19:25,677 --> 01:19:27,908
Professor Kaman.
1784
01:19:27,979 --> 01:19:29,743
Is there anything
that you'd like to add?
1785
01:19:34,186 --> 01:19:37,213
Okay, that concludes
our evening everyone.
1786
01:19:37,289 --> 01:19:39,417
Our next debate will be
November 14th
1787
01:19:39,691 --> 01:19:40,750
presented by
the business department
1788
01:19:40,826 --> 01:19:43,295
with a discussion about
government spending.
1789
01:19:43,361 --> 01:19:44,920
We hope to see you then.
1790
01:19:44,996 --> 01:19:45,996
Thanks for coming.
1791
01:20:19,731 --> 01:20:21,825
Evan.
1792
01:20:21,900 --> 01:20:22,900
Thank you for all your help.
1793
01:20:22,901 --> 01:20:24,096
I couldn't have done it
without you.
1794
01:20:24,169 --> 01:20:25,169
You're welcome.
1795
01:20:25,170 --> 01:20:26,170
It was a pleasure meeting you.
1796
01:20:26,171 --> 01:20:27,104
Same here.
1797
01:20:27,105 --> 01:20:28,105
Keep in touch.
1798
01:20:28,173 --> 01:20:29,173
Yes sir.
1799
01:20:32,277 --> 01:20:33,277
Your Dad did good.
1800
01:20:52,430 --> 01:20:54,865
Great job with
the debate last night Professor.
1801
01:20:54,933 --> 01:20:58,293
Yeah, it was a...
interesting.
1802
01:21:45,850 --> 01:21:50,015
Hey buddy, interested in making
a hundred bucks?
1803
01:21:50,088 --> 01:21:51,954
One Hundred dollars?
1804
01:21:51,955 --> 01:21:52,823
Yeah.
1805
01:21:52,824 --> 01:21:55,293
Just let me crack three eggs
over your head and it's yours.
1806
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:56,360
Yeah?
1807
01:21:56,361 --> 01:21:58,023
Yeah.
1808
01:21:58,096 --> 01:21:59,359
Show me the hundred first.
1809
01:22:01,299 --> 01:22:02,961
Can I talk to you for a minute?
1810
01:22:03,034 --> 01:22:04,058
Yeah, sure.
1811
01:22:08,306 --> 01:22:13,301
First I wanted to thank you
for helping my Dad.
1812
01:22:13,378 --> 01:22:17,110
And second, I wanted
to apologize for how I acted.
1813
01:22:17,182 --> 01:22:19,583
I'm sorry I gave you
so much opposition.
1814
01:22:19,851 --> 01:22:23,583
I lost perspective but I'm back
on track with the Lord.
1815
01:22:23,855 --> 01:22:26,324
God used you in my life
and I wanted thank you.
1816
01:22:27,926 --> 01:22:28,926
You're welcome.
1817
01:22:31,496 --> 01:22:33,556
That's it.
1818
01:22:33,632 --> 01:22:34,632
See ya.
1819
01:22:35,300 --> 01:22:36,300
See ya.
1820
01:22:47,879 --> 01:22:48,879
Rachel!
1821
01:22:51,650 --> 01:22:55,018
What are you doing
Saturday afternoon?
1822
01:23:01,126 --> 01:23:07,293
♪ You stood before creation. ♪
1823
01:23:07,365 --> 01:23:13,896
♪ Eternity in your hand. ♪
1824
01:23:13,972 --> 01:23:18,376
♪ You spoke the earth
into motion. ♪
1825
01:23:18,443 --> 01:23:22,005
♪ My soul now to stand. ♪
1826
01:23:26,918 --> 01:23:28,352
Okay this spot, right here.
1827
01:23:31,256 --> 01:23:32,256
What about it?
1828
01:23:32,323 --> 01:23:33,985
You ever been here before?
1829
01:23:34,059 --> 01:23:35,493
Yeah, I told you lots of time
1830
01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:37,188
for family reunions.
1831
01:23:39,264 --> 01:23:42,325
Would you look at that,
on the ground?
1832
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:44,062
It's a fifty cent piece.
1833
01:23:47,272 --> 01:23:48,638
Do you remember that?
1834
01:23:48,707 --> 01:23:50,005
What?
1835
01:23:50,075 --> 01:23:51,099
What I just did?
1836
01:23:51,176 --> 01:23:53,941
Took the fifty cent piece
from your hand?
1837
01:23:54,012 --> 01:23:55,605
Think Rachel.
1838
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:57,114
Think back to when
you were ten years old.
1839
01:23:57,182 --> 01:23:58,673
You saw a fifty cent piece
on the ground
1840
01:23:58,674 --> 01:23:59,650
and some little boy
1841
01:23:59,651 --> 01:24:01,347
came up and grabbed it from you
when you found it.
1842
01:24:01,419 --> 01:24:02,580
I do remember.
1843
01:24:02,654 --> 01:24:04,247
How did you know?
Did my Dad tell you?
1844
01:24:04,322 --> 01:24:06,314
Yeah, your father told me.
1845
01:24:06,391 --> 01:24:11,625
But that little boy was me.
1846
01:24:11,696 --> 01:24:12,994
What?
1847
01:24:13,064 --> 01:24:14,999
Eight years ago,
you and I met here
1848
01:24:15,066 --> 01:24:16,227
at this very spot.
1849
01:24:16,301 --> 01:24:17,428
We were throwing
stones into the river
1850
01:24:17,502 --> 01:24:19,562
when you saw a fifty cent
piece on the ground.
1851
01:24:19,637 --> 01:24:20,696
I came and snatched it
out of your hand
1852
01:24:20,705 --> 01:24:21,705
when you picked it up.
1853
01:24:21,706 --> 01:24:23,174
Just stole it from you.
1854
01:24:23,241 --> 01:24:25,938
My Dad saw the whole thing
and he used that incident
1855
01:24:26,010 --> 01:24:27,444
to show me how I needed Christ.
1856
01:24:27,512 --> 01:24:29,378
So on that day,
1857
01:24:29,447 --> 01:24:31,643
this selfish little boy
became a Christian.
1858
01:24:31,716 --> 01:24:36,586
You see Rachel,
God used you in my life.
1859
01:24:36,654 --> 01:24:37,654
I wanted to say thank you.
1860
01:24:41,259 --> 01:24:42,259
You're welcome.
1861
01:24:45,196 --> 01:24:46,196
You know that little restaurant
1862
01:24:46,197 --> 01:24:47,197
up past the bridge?
1863
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:50,593
I'd be happy to
treat you to lunch.
1864
01:24:55,006 --> 01:24:58,340
Alright. Yeah,
I think I'd like that.
1865
01:25:01,346 --> 01:25:11,345
♪ So, what could I say,
and what could I do? ♪
1866
01:25:14,425 --> 01:25:24,424
♪ But offer this heart oh God,
completely to you. ♪
1867
01:25:29,707 --> 01:25:36,011
♪ So I'll stand with arms high
and heart abandoned ♪
1868
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:42,543
♪ in awe of the one
who gave it all. ♪
1869
01:25:42,620 --> 01:25:48,560
♪ I'll stand my soul Lord
to you surrendered, ♪
1870
01:25:48,626 --> 01:25:55,465
♪ all I am is yours. ♪
1871
01:25:55,533 --> 01:26:01,769
♪ I'll stand with arms high
and heart abandoned ♪
1872
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:08,337
♪ in awe of the one
who gave it all. ♪
1873
01:26:08,413 --> 01:26:14,045
♪ ♪ I'll stand my soul Lord
to you surrendered, ♪
1874
01:26:14,118 --> 01:26:21,252
♪ all I am is yours. ♪
1875
01:26:21,326 --> 01:26:27,596
♪ I'll stand with arms high
and heart abandoned ♪
1876
01:26:27,665 --> 01:26:34,162
♪ in awe of the one
who gave it all. ♪
1877
01:26:34,239 --> 01:26:39,610
♪ I'll stand my soul Lord
to you surrendered, ♪
1878
01:26:39,677 --> 01:26:46,106
♪ all I am is yours. ♪
1879
01:26:46,184 --> 01:26:52,454
♪ All I am is yours,
all I am is yours. ♪
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