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Narrator:
The nazis and their ruthless
Pursuit of world domination
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Is the stuff of legend,
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But is there any truth
To the idea
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That hitler was using
Black magic
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And witchcraft in his quests
To take over the world?
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For the nazis,
The occult was like oxygen.
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It was the backbone
Of their ideology.
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They were trying to use
Pseudo-science of the time
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To justify
Why the aryan race was superior.
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Picknett: they basically turned
Normal, civilized
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Human beings into monsters,
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So that has to be
A sinister occult ritual.
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Farrar:
If magic is ever used to destroy
Something it is used
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To destroy evil,
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Such as stopping the nazis
From invading britain.
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Felix:
If the nazis had stopped all
This nonsense with astronomy,
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Astrologers,
Dowsing, tarot cards,
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If they'd stopped all that
And got on
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With the war properly,
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I think they'd probably
Have beaten us.
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Narrator:
In the years leading up to nazi
Germany's declaration of war,
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A bizarre obsession
Began to take hold
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Within the newly-formed
Political party.
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A strange twisted mythology
Based on ancient pagan beliefs
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And sorcery,
Was beginning to emerge.
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Dr. Selwood:
Today, when we think of nazism,
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We tend to look at
A political ideology
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That was bent
On territorial conquests
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And on racial extermination.
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But actually it's broader
Than that.
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There's a more philosophical
Part of nazism as well.
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Picknett:
The nazis subscribed to an
Extreme version of ariosophy.
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Ariosophy was the idea
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That there was an ancient
Germanic aryan race,
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That was a pure race,
A strong race.
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Gough:
This notion of this ancient,
Mystic, aryan race
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That's been around
Thousands of years,
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They felt that gave them
Entitlement.
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And was the motivation
And the justification
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For all of their
Despicable actions.
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Narrator:
Heinrich himmler was hitler's
Second in command
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And the man chiefly responsible
For actively encouraging
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Not only the belief
In the occult,
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But also the idea that the nazis
Really were descended
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From a super race of beings.
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Gough:
Heinrich himmler was one of the
Most powerful men in germany.
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He was hitler's right hand man
And the commander of the ss.
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Dr. Bellinger:
He was a rabid occultist.
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And really brought to hitler
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A whole panoply
Of propaganda tools
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That he could use to justify
What the nazis were doing.
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And to really place it in the
Roots of a false aryan mythology
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Designed to make the average
German person feel not just okay
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With what hitler was doing,
But proud of it.
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Mcmahon:
Heinrich himmler was the founder
And the head of the ss.
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He also ended up leading
The gestapo
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And eventually founded
The concentration camps
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That killed millions of people.
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And what drove him
In his mission
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Was this underlying belief
That the german people
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Were set apart
From the rest of humanity.
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And in order to prove that,
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He delved very deeply
Into the occult.
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He needed to find a supernatural
Back story to the german people
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And that led him on the trail
Of the holy grail.
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It led him to send people
All over the world
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Looking for non-evolutionary
Roots of the german people.
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Narrator: eric kurlander
Is a historian and author
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Who has researched
Nazi occultism for decades.
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He has traveled to
Quedlinburg castle,
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A 1,000-year old fortress
In central germany
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To uncover the origin
Of himmler's occult obsession.
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So we're approaching the
Quedlinburg castle and abbey
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Which was founded 1,100 years
Ago by henry the fowler,
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The great saxon king.
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Henry the fowler was seen
As more authentically german
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Than other germanic kings
Of the middle ages,
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By heinrich himmler,
The reich's fuhrer ss,
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Who decided that
This would be a site
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Where you could celebrate
Germanic paganism.
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Dr. Bellinger:
Henry the fowler was
King heinrich the first
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And he unified
For the first time,
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The german state in 956
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And brought together everybody
Out of warring territories.
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And it was the launch of what
Became known as the first reich.
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So it makes a lot of sense
That himmler was going
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To appropriate this myth
For propaganda purposes.
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Kurlander:
So himmler was raised catholic,
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But he very early on rejected
His christian upbringing.
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And sought to create
Through the ss,
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A kind of pre-christian
Religious tradition in germany.
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An ario-germanic religion.
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One way he was going to do that
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Was by taking
Christian festivals,
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Like christmas
And replacing them
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With the old
Winter solstice festivals,
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The yule celebrations of
Pre-christian pagan tradition.
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For example, in this room,
In 1936,
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He inaugurated
The first festival
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In honor of henry the fowler,
The great saxon king,
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Who for him represented
The pre-christian german reality
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That he wanted to recreate.
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Himmler genuinely believed that
He was either the reincarnation
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Or the descendant
Of henry the fowler.
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And himmler,
In his deluded state,
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Used to go to the abbey,
Hold séances in the abbey,
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Prayed at the grave or
The shrine of henry the fouler.
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And genuinely believed
That he was able to connect
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With the spirit
Of his dead ancestor.
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Kurlander:
So we're standing in the oldest
Part of the quedlinburg
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Castle and monastery.
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Where henry the fowler,
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Who built the very foundations
Of this monastery,
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Was buried a thousand years ago.
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So one of the reasons that
Heinrich himmler
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Found this space so interesting,
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Is it wasn't just
The saxon origins,
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The basis of
Ario-germanic empire
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That he and the ss
Wanted to recreate,
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He actually believed
He may have been
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The reincarnation
Of henry the fowler.
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So this space really represent
One part of what I call
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The supernatural imaginary
That many nazis subscribe to.
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It's linked to pagan religion.
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An ario-germanic
Religious beliefs,
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Kind of pre-christian beliefs,
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That was an important pillar
Of nazi thinking.
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It overlaps in some ways
With occult and esoteric ideas,
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But it's not the same thing
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And that's why
The quedlinburg is more
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A kind of pagan religious site
For heinrich himmler.
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Walters: so what you see
With this young himmler,
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He's very impressionable.
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He looks back along the prussian
And germanic past,
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Myth and legend and there
He finds examples and stories
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And the kind of heroes,
That he always wants to be.
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And so therefore,
He's very seduced
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By the whole feel
Of that legend and myth
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And also by
The esoteric-ism of it.
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And he really buys in to all
The runes and the culture
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And the magic
And all the mumbo-jumbo.
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Narrator:
But himmler's strange beliefs
In ancient german mythology
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And esoteric-ism,
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Soon took
A much more sinister turn.
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While studying farming at the
Technical university in munich,
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Himmler became fascinated
With breeding.
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Selective breeding.
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Not just animals,
But also human beings.
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Could we create or recreate
More importantly, a master race?
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Since himmler believed that
The aryan race
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Had been perfect
Thousands of years earlier,
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Maybe you could use modern
Breeding techniques
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To bring this aryan utopia
Back into being.
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Dr. Selwood:
Nazism was for the whole person.
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It wasn't just about the
Political side of an individual.
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And so elements that were
Brought in,
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The people
Really identified with
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And there's so much literature
From the period on this,
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Was particularly linking,
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They are descended
From these super people,
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Who lived millenia ago.
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So this is a tradition.
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It's a continuation.
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The nazis didn't think they were
Inventing something.
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They thought they were tapping
Into an ancient force.
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Narrator:
Inspired by german paganism,
Himmler took his occult
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Thinking even further
And used an ancient code
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To create the most feared
Symbol of all.
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Narrator:
In the lead up to world war two,
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The nazis became
Increasingly obsessed
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With ancient german mythology
And black magic.
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Mcmahon:
From the outset, the nazis
Were heavily influenced
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By occult ideas.
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Hitler, himmler, and others
Were desperate to prove
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That the "Aryan race" had
Somehow originated
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Separately from
The rest of humanity.
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And in order to prove that
Highly unscientific theory,
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They needed to resort
To something supernatural,
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Something occult.
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Dr. Bellinger:
By telling the german people
That they were descended
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From a master race,
A superior race of beings,
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That literally derived from epic
Mythology of superb peace,
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Harmony, and achievement,
This is really canny.
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I mean this was directly
Addressing
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The psychological damage
Done upon
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The german national psyche
By world war I.
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Narrator:
Guido von list was a key figure
In early nazi occultism
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And a major influence
On heinrich himmler.
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Gough:
Guido von list was an occultist
Who revived a religious movement
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Which showed the ancient aryan
Roots of the germanic people.
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And why this was so important,
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Is that it served
As the inspiration to himmler
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Who would later adopt
These same beliefs.
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Dr. Bellinger:
Guido von list was a paganist
Who was responsible,
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Largely,
For the runic revival,
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Which became a really
Central part of the symbolism
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And iconography
Of the nazi party.
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And particularly of the regalia
Worn by the ss.
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Narrator:
It was list's teachings that
Encouraged himmler
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To turn his twisted mind
To an ancient language
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Made of magical symbols
Called runes.
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Gavin bone is a historian
And expert on runes,
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Who believes they are the key to
Understanding nazi iconography.
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Bone:
So the word rune comes from
The old german, "Runyon"
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Which means a mystery, a secret,
To whisper, something hidden.
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And the runes originally were
A system of writing
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Amongst the german peoples
Going back, they believe,
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As far back as 200 bc.
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Their origins in nazi occultism
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Derive from
An austrian journalist,
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Playwright and author
Named guido list.
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Guido von list believed that
There had been a germanic empire
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That worshiped
A pagan god, wotan,
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And that used this runic script.
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And in fact, the nazis
Latched on to this idea
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Of the runic alphabet
Being the true german alphabet.
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And it informed
Their iconography,
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In particular the ss logo
That we all know today.
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Bone:
Von list is responsible for is
The integration of the runes
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Into the ss as symbols.
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One of the most famous symbols
The nazi's were associated with
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Was the double lightning flash,
The double sig
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Or the schutzstaffel --
The ss.
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Which comes from the sig rune
Also known as the sowilo rune.
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This rune was originally
As symbol of success,
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Of happiness, of peace.
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It becomes twisted.
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It becomes a symbol for victory,
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Hence the nazi salute,
"Zeig heil" is "Hail victory."
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Here you see the double
S patch, double sig patch.
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Here you see it actually as it
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Was originally in
The elder futhark runes.
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Dr. Selwood:
Himmler wanted the ss to stand
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For something out
Of the ordinary
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And to do that,
He infused it
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With all these different
Currents of the occult.
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So most obviously he did it
Visually.
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So things like the ss rune,
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The two letters s you see,
The lightning bolts,
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Those are old germanic runes,
It's called the sig rune.
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They have meaning.
They can be interpreted.
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Many other runes were used in ss
Uniforms, in ss banners,
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On the daggers that they had,
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All sorts of articles
Of ss paraphernalia
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Were engraved and emblazoned
With these runes.
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It was guido list who introduced
One of the most well known,
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And has become of the most
Hated symbols in the world,
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And that was the swastika.
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Of course that was not
It's original german name.
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It had several names.
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The hakenkruis,
The hooked cross.
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The fylfot,
The many-footed cross.
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Now one of the great fallacies
Which has occurred
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Since the second world war,
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Is the nazis,
Specifically hitler and himmler,
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Reversed the rotation.
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That's actually not true.
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As you can see from this sensa
From india,
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It is in fact
Going the same direction.
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The double sig, is actually
The same as the swastika.
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If you take the two sig
And interlock them,
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They actually
Become the swastika.
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They originally meant
The same thing.
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But of course the swastika
Was never originally
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A symbol of hate.
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You still find it
Around the world
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In many cultures and traditions.
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And still you see in places
Such as india, tibet,
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The swastika is still in use
As a sacred symbol.
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It represents the sun.
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It represents good luck,
Good fortune.
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Walters:
You've got to remember that
The nazis were really good
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At the branding business,
Is what we call it today.
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I mean there is no better brand
Than the swastika.
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I mean it's a very,
Very powerful icon
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Set on the white and the red,
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You know these are incredibly
Captivating colors, normally.
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And then the symbol of the
Swastika is very powerful
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And equally the ss runes,
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And they were runes,
From norse culture.
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So obviously you even got
The uniform of the kind of elite
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Armed unit of the third reich
Were dressed you know,
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With these symbols, which had
Their roots in mythology.
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Narrator:
Eric kurlander is an academic
And author who has spend decades
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On covering the nazis
Occult obsession.
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Core to the nazis
Twisted ideology,
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Was a belief called irminism,
A pseudo-religion,
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Which ss commander himmler
Believed
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Was worshipped
At various pagan sites
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In ancient history,
Across germany.
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Kurlander:
So arminism or irminism as
The ariosophists called it,
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Believe that there is
An ancient germanic civilization
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That lived in pre-history,
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Where there were frost giants
And dwarves.
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And potentially that this
Aryan civilization
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Had originated from meeting
With extra-terrestrials,
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Which is why it was so powerful,
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And had a third eye
And could you know,
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Exercise greater mental acuity
Than normal races on earth.
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And this superior civilization
Practiced a kind of religion,
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A culture
That they thought lasted
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Until the early medieval period.
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And was practiced here
At the externsteine.
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Narrator:
Also compared to stonehenge,
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The externsteine is a collection
Of giant sandstone pillars,
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Used a pagan religious site
For millennia.
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Kurlander:
To the externsteine are a site
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Where himmler's various
Fantasies kind of come together.
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His religious beliefs about
A pre-christian
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Germanic religious tradition,
His border scientific beliefs
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That you could use
Archeology and astrology
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To recreate the foundations
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Of this ancient
Germanic civilization.
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And of course his occult belief,
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All of that comes together
At the externsteine.
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Dr. Selwood:
Himmler was a nutter
And like all nutters,
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He was preoccupied
With pseudo-science.
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So he created,
Within the ss,
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A division called
The ahnenerbe,
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Which means ancestral heritage.
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And his idea was that
This would be a think tank
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That would roam the world
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And gather evidence
Of these ancient cultures
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And demonstrate that his racial
Theories and theories
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About germanic super people,
Were actually right.
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Janulis:
And they even got scientists,
Archaeologists, biologists,
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Et cetera in on these teams
Going around
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Looking for the origins
Of true aryans.
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And the ancient giants,
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The niflheim
And these sorts of things
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And measuring people's
Heads out in nepal.
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And so I can't imagine
Respected scientists
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Signing up for one
Of these projects,
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Unless they were forced
To do so politically.
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Narrator: according to legend,
The irminists,
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Like the mythical civilization
Of atlantis,
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Had a fantastically
Advanced technology.
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And himmler believed that
If he could find evidence
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Of this ancient technology
At the externsteine,
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It would prove that
The german people
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Were descendants
Of a master race
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And therefore,
The true rulers of the earth.
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So one of the things that the
Archaeologists in the institute
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For ancestral research,
Were looking for,
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Was evidence of a superior
Pre-christian civilization,
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Tens of thousands of years old.
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They were excavating,
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Looking for evidence
Of this superior civilization.
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What they found were neolithic
Tools and other evidence
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Showing that
There had been some you know,
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Transient human settlements
Here
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But nothing co-noting
A great germanic civilization.
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Narrator:
But himmler wasn't deterred
By this lack of
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Archaeological evidence.
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Meanwhile, what were hitler's
Beliefs during this time?
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Like himmler,
Was he under the influence
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Of black magic and mythology?
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[ shouting in german ]
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Narrator:
Nazism was more than just
A political ideology.
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It was a philosophy full of
Occult ideas
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Based on pagan mythology.
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Gough:
The nazi occult beliefs
Were extreme.
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For a start they believed
That their lineage
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Went back thousands of years.
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They believed that their life
Was seeded on earth
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From a meteorite from space,
Not like the rest of us.
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Dr. Bellinger:
The occult was centrally
Important to the nazis.
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Like not just for what people
Thought it might
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Effect as magic,
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It meant so much
On a false but,
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Deep, deeply rooted
Mythological basis,
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That legitimized
The entire project.
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Narrator:
Heinrich himmler was hitler's
Right hand man
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And founder of the dreaded ss.
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Himmler fully believed
In the occult
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But what about
The fuhrer himself?
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What influence, if any,
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Did black magic
Have on adolph hitler?
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Janulis:
Hitler had a very unique skill.
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He had the ability to capture
An audience,
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To capture their minds,
Their eyes, their attention
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And their hearts
All at the same time.
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And he used that
To great effect.
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And he got better and better
At it as he became more
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And more powerful
Within the german government.
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Hitler didn't really use magic,
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Although is hold over people
Was almost magical.
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And I think that's an important
Thing to bear in mind,
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That hitler presented himself
And was presented,
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As a kind of messianic figure.
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And what do messianic figures
Have to have?
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It's not just charisma,
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But they also have to have
This sense of other-worldliness.
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Felix:
So was it just charisma?
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But if it was, surely that
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Would have showed much earlier
In his life.
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You don't just learn that.
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You've got it or you haven't.
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So it must be something
Surrounded as he was,
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With all of this occult,
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With dowses and tarot cards
And mediums and then perhaps
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He became some form of conduit
For the whole thing.
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And perhaps hitler really
Was possessed
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By something to do with satan
Or the devil
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Or some other deity
Of some sort.
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Perhaps it's real.
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[ shouting in german ]
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Narrator:
So was hitler really channeling
Demonic forces
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During the infamous
Nazi rallies?
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Or is there another explanation?
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Neil tobin is a chicago
Born playwright and performer.
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In 2015 tobin wrote a play
About arch-nazi occultist
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Eric yon henderson,
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The man credited with
Teaching hitler mass hypnosis.
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Eric yon henderson was the most
Popular psychic entertainer
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In germany pre world war ii.
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He conducted performances
That incorporated hypnotism.
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He was a telepathist --
He read minds.
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He made predictions.
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He filled the largest
Performance spaces in europe.
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Picknett: he was very popular
With the nazis mainly
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Because it is said at least,
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That he was hitler's teacher
In one sense.
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He taught him stage craft.
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He taught him how to hold
An audience
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In the palm of your hands.
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How to look them in the eye.
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How to mesmerize them.
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[ shouting in german ]
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When we look
At the newsreel footage,
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Of hitler at one
Of the great rallies,
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You see how he uses his body.
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You hear how he,
Even if you don't know german,
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You hear how he uses
His voice for emphasis.
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You see the broad gestures,
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The sense of drama that can
Carry through an immense space.
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And one has to think that that
Did not just happen by accident.
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[ shouting in german ]
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[ cheering ]
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Dr. Bellinger:
The interesting thing,
Eric yon henderson
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Was not the danish person
He claimed to be.
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He was in fact jewish
And he was playing with fire.
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One would have thought
He would have known better.
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Gough:
The fact that yon henderson
Was found murdered
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With a bullet
Through the back and the head,
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Is probably due
To several things.
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One, the discovery
That he was jewish.
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Two, he was so wealthy
That prominent players
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In the nazi party,
Owed him a lot of money.
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And also he had perhaps become
Too influential with hitler.
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So there would have been
This issue of jealousy.
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So there were many motives
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Why the nazis would want
To have him murdered.
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Narrator:
In 1939, war broke out,
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But the nazis weren't
Just using bullets and bombs
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Against the allies.
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They also enlisted the power
Of dark forces.
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*
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Narrator: in 1939,
War finally broke out
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And the nazis forces
Of darkness,
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Fueled by the twisted
Occult ideology of arianism,
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Invaded europe.
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Missiles were launched,
And bombs dropped.
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But in hidden bunkers,
A much more sinister force
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Was being put to work --
Witchcraft.
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Felix: the difference between
The allies and the germans,
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The nazis,
Was that we were using radar
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To find their submarines
And their planes.
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They were using dowsing
Pendulums,
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That's a piece of string with
A bit of brass on the end of it,
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Or some quartz crystal.
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They were dangling it over a map
And looking for our submarines.
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Dr. Selwood:
Hitler even brought these faddy
Beliefs into battle planning.
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Instead of using intelligence
And spotter planes
480
00:24:15,700 --> 00:24:17,067
And all the normal things,
481
00:24:17,067 --> 00:24:19,967
Hitler had teams of dowsers
And bizarrely,
482
00:24:19,967 --> 00:24:22,167
It actually seems to have been
Successful on more occasions
483
00:24:22,167 --> 00:24:23,900
Than you would imagine.
484
00:24:23,900 --> 00:24:25,867
Gough:
The nazis were so impressed,
485
00:24:25,867 --> 00:24:30,067
It inspired them to take
The occult far more serious
486
00:24:30,067 --> 00:24:34,100
And really put a lot of money
Into that division of the ss.
487
00:24:34,100 --> 00:24:36,600
So they created
This organization
488
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,767
Called the institute
For occult warfare.
489
00:24:39,767 --> 00:24:44,167
Full of mediums and psychics
Who are using all these strange
490
00:24:44,167 --> 00:24:48,533
Occult powers
To fend off the west.
491
00:24:48,533 --> 00:24:50,800
Mcmahon:
In the last desperate stages
Of the war,
492
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,767
The nazis even released
Thousands of astrologers
493
00:24:55,767 --> 00:24:59,233
And magicians and dowsers
From concentration camps,
494
00:24:59,233 --> 00:25:02,067
Trying to help hitler
Win the war.
495
00:25:02,067 --> 00:25:07,767
*
496
00:25:07,767 --> 00:25:10,800
Narrator:
As the nazi forces of darkness
Ravaged europe,
497
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,967
Hitler had his sights
Set on england.
498
00:25:12,967 --> 00:25:15,700
The luftwaffe dropped
Thousands of bombs.
499
00:25:15,700 --> 00:25:19,600
Children were evacuated and fear
And chaos shrouded britain
500
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,800
Like a great dark cloud.
501
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,433
But beneath the surface, an
Occult war was being waged too.
502
00:25:26,433 --> 00:25:27,800
Gough: it's fascinating
When you realize
503
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,333
That there was this secret
Occult war going on
504
00:25:31,333 --> 00:25:33,533
And it didn't take long
For the allies
505
00:25:33,533 --> 00:25:39,400
To realize that the germans
Were using magic, map dowsing,
506
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,567
And with great accuracy,
Finding their ships.
507
00:25:42,567 --> 00:25:44,067
So what did they do?
508
00:25:44,067 --> 00:25:47,900
They had to retaliate with some
Occult magic of their own.
509
00:25:47,900 --> 00:25:50,667
So they are alleged
To have enlisted
510
00:25:50,667 --> 00:25:53,600
The most famous occultist
In britain,
511
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:58,867
Alistair crowley who is said
To have helped churchill
512
00:25:58,867 --> 00:26:02,667
By giving him the v
For victory symbol.
513
00:26:02,667 --> 00:26:05,533
As far as I know,
British intelligence
514
00:26:05,533 --> 00:26:09,833
did recruit alistair crowley
To help them in the same way
515
00:26:09,833 --> 00:26:12,100
As the germans
Were doing against us.
516
00:26:12,100 --> 00:26:16,800
It was alistair crowley's idea
To combat the nordic runes
517
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,067
That the germans were using,
518
00:26:18,067 --> 00:26:20,767
They came up with the victory
V sign to sort of,
519
00:26:20,767 --> 00:26:23,467
For want of a better word,
Point at the germans,
520
00:26:23,467 --> 00:26:28,067
When they were pointing
Their runic devices at us.
521
00:26:28,067 --> 00:26:30,067
Narrator: but it wasn't just
British intelligence
522
00:26:30,067 --> 00:26:31,667
Who began using magic.
523
00:26:31,667 --> 00:26:33,567
In the forests
Of southern england,
524
00:26:33,567 --> 00:26:36,567
A coven of witches took it
Upon themselves to gather
525
00:26:36,567 --> 00:26:40,067
And perform a ritual called
The cone of power,
526
00:26:40,067 --> 00:26:43,100
In an attempt to stop
The imminent nazi invasion.
527
00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:45,167
Picknett:
Operation -- cone of power,
528
00:26:45,167 --> 00:26:49,533
Was basically a bunch of
Modern witches
529
00:26:49,533 --> 00:26:51,300
Getting together
In the new forest,
530
00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:53,933
Under the guidance
Of gerald gardner
531
00:26:53,933 --> 00:26:56,367
Who more or less created
Modern wicca,
532
00:26:56,367 --> 00:27:03,067
To do a ritual to prevent
The nazis from invading britain.
533
00:27:03,067 --> 00:27:05,700
Narrator:
Philip heselton is part of that
Ancient order
534
00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:07,967
Of witches or wicca.
535
00:27:07,967 --> 00:27:10,600
He has spent decades researching
What happened
536
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,133
On the night
Of the cone of power.
537
00:27:13,133 --> 00:27:19,667
Heselton:
We don't know how or where,
This ritual took place.
538
00:27:19,667 --> 00:27:24,733
Gerald said "We were taken at
Night to a place in the forest."
539
00:27:24,733 --> 00:27:28,267
It would be in the forest,
It wouldn't be any open air.
540
00:27:28,267 --> 00:27:33,900
It would be however, a clearing,
Something like this, I reckon.
541
00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:38,567
So that they had enough space to
Do what was a really big ritual.
542
00:27:42,767 --> 00:27:46,833
Apparently, they had 17 people
And they held hands.
543
00:27:46,833 --> 00:27:50,933
Rushing forward
And at the same time,
544
00:27:50,933 --> 00:27:56,167
Giving the wording
Which was something like,
545
00:27:56,167 --> 00:27:59,433
You cannot cross the sea,
Not able to come,
546
00:27:59,433 --> 00:28:02,300
Not able to come,
You cannot cross the sea.
547
00:28:02,300 --> 00:28:05,100
And they repeated that.
548
00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:08,533
And it wasn't just words,
It was the mind power
549
00:28:08,533 --> 00:28:13,867
Was concentrated
And working together
550
00:28:13,867 --> 00:28:16,633
And they created this,
551
00:28:16,633 --> 00:28:18,567
What they called
A cone of power.
552
00:28:18,567 --> 00:28:21,700
It wasn't physical,
You couldn't see it.
553
00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:24,567
But it was there
On the psychic level
554
00:28:24,567 --> 00:28:26,967
And was sent over specifically,
555
00:28:26,967 --> 00:28:34,433
To the german high command,
To change their thinking.
556
00:28:34,433 --> 00:28:38,200
Of course the human mind is
One of the most flexible things.
557
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,900
It's one of the things that's
Easier to work magic with.
558
00:28:44,967 --> 00:28:48,067
Narrator: janet farrar is a
Wiccan high priestess
559
00:28:48,067 --> 00:28:50,067
And is one of the world's
Leading experts
560
00:28:50,067 --> 00:28:52,333
And teachers of witchcraft.
561
00:28:52,333 --> 00:28:57,167
Janet has performed the cone
Of power ritual multiple times.
562
00:28:57,167 --> 00:28:59,367
Farrar: ritual is a drama.
563
00:28:59,367 --> 00:29:03,067
Now witchcraft is not just
About ritual.
564
00:29:03,067 --> 00:29:05,933
It's about the equivalent
I suppose,
565
00:29:05,933 --> 00:29:07,800
Of in christian terms, prayer.
566
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,633
That's what magic is.
567
00:29:09,633 --> 00:29:11,667
It's when you transport
Your mind
568
00:29:11,667 --> 00:29:12,933
To a place where you say
569
00:29:12,933 --> 00:29:16,900
"I know this can be made
To happen."
570
00:29:16,900 --> 00:29:19,967
When you perform the dance
Of the cone of power,
571
00:29:19,967 --> 00:29:21,767
It feels as if you're floating,
572
00:29:21,767 --> 00:29:24,567
As if you're about six inches
Off the ground.
573
00:29:24,567 --> 00:29:28,800
And there's a sensation that,
574
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,333
No matter
How fast you're dancing,
575
00:29:31,333 --> 00:29:33,967
That you're
Moving twice as fast.
576
00:29:33,967 --> 00:29:37,600
And sometimes you get the very
Strange effect,
577
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,633
Time stands completely still.
578
00:29:42,067 --> 00:29:44,767
And it's as if that cone
Of power stops time.
579
00:29:44,767 --> 00:29:47,300
You feel totally elated from it,
580
00:29:47,300 --> 00:29:49,200
Totally in harmony
With the universe,
581
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,700
Totally elated inside yourself
And of course
582
00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:55,700
This is what would have happened
To the coven in the new forest.
583
00:29:55,700 --> 00:29:57,267
They would have achieved
What they wanted.
584
00:29:57,267 --> 00:29:58,733
They'd have gone home
That night,
585
00:29:58,733 --> 00:30:01,100
Probably made some hot chocolate
And gone to bed.
586
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:03,167
Forgotten all about it,
Don't talk about it,
587
00:30:03,167 --> 00:30:06,133
Don't discuss it
Amongst ourselves, it's done.
588
00:30:06,133 --> 00:30:07,867
It's the full stop.
589
00:30:07,867 --> 00:30:11,233
It's the telegram
That's been sent.
590
00:30:11,233 --> 00:30:15,067
Narrator:
With the allies now fighting
Back using magic, in germany,
591
00:30:15,067 --> 00:30:17,333
Himmler had even grander plans.
592
00:30:17,333 --> 00:30:19,800
To build a giant nazi fortress,
593
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,167
Based on the mythological
King arthur's camelot.
594
00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:34,800
*
595
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,767
Narrator:
In the midst of world war ii,
596
00:30:36,767 --> 00:30:39,100
A secret occult war
Was being waged
597
00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:42,633
Between the ruthless nazis
And the allies.
598
00:30:42,633 --> 00:30:44,833
Mcmahon: british intelligence
Was aware of hitler
599
00:30:44,833 --> 00:30:47,833
And himmler's rather
Dark obsession with the occult.
600
00:30:47,833 --> 00:30:51,900
So much so, that they tried to
Use the occult against the nazis
601
00:30:51,900 --> 00:30:55,533
And one of the things they did
Was creating a fake magazine,
602
00:30:55,533 --> 00:30:58,067
German occult magazine
Called zenit
603
00:30:58,067 --> 00:31:00,433
Which was circulated
Within germany,
604
00:31:00,433 --> 00:31:02,667
With dark
Astrological predictions
605
00:31:02,667 --> 00:31:04,500
Against hitler and himmler.
606
00:31:04,500 --> 00:31:08,333
And suggestions framed
In an astrological kind of way,
607
00:31:08,333 --> 00:31:12,200
That germany was bound
To lose the war.
608
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,133
Narrator:
With the allies now attempting
To dispel the nazis using magic,
609
00:31:16,133 --> 00:31:18,733
Heinrich himmler,
Hitler's right hand man,
610
00:31:18,733 --> 00:31:21,600
Was stepping things up
Back in germany.
611
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,500
Eric kurlander is an academic
And historian,
612
00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:27,333
Who has spent years
Researching nazi occultism
613
00:31:27,333 --> 00:31:30,567
And he believes that
Wewelsburg castle is the key
614
00:31:30,567 --> 00:31:33,833
To understanding himmler's
Bizarre chivalric beliefs
615
00:31:33,833 --> 00:31:36,633
Connected to the mythological
King arthur.
616
00:31:36,633 --> 00:31:38,900
Kurlander:
So, we're on our way to a castle
617
00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:41,100
Known as the wewelsburg
And himmler,
618
00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:44,067
When he saw the castle
For the first time,
619
00:31:44,067 --> 00:31:46,667
And he consulted
With other ss leaders
620
00:31:46,667 --> 00:31:50,133
About whether this would be
The right place to create
621
00:31:50,133 --> 00:31:51,867
An order castle for the ss,
622
00:31:51,867 --> 00:31:56,833
A place for ss education,
Ss indoctrination
623
00:31:56,833 --> 00:32:01,433
And eventually almost a kind
Of religious center for the ss.
624
00:32:01,433 --> 00:32:04,200
Dr. Selwood:
The ultimate statement
Of himmler's occult,
625
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,067
Chivalric beliefs,
Was wewelsburg castle.
626
00:32:08,067 --> 00:32:09,667
He purchased this
And wanted to turn it
627
00:32:09,667 --> 00:32:12,067
Into the cult center of the ss.
628
00:32:12,067 --> 00:32:14,367
There was a room in the basement
With places for
629
00:32:14,367 --> 00:32:17,300
The 12 knights of the ss who all
Had death's head rings.
630
00:32:17,300 --> 00:32:20,533
There were rooms above
With solar suns on the floor,
631
00:32:20,533 --> 00:32:24,633
Black suns for occult ceremonies
And ss weddings.
632
00:32:24,633 --> 00:32:28,800
It was to be the tip of a spear,
The top of a cosmic spirit
633
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,933
That would be the spiritual
Center of the ss cult.
634
00:32:32,933 --> 00:32:36,733
Wewelsburg was the heart
Of himmler's vision of the ss.
635
00:32:36,733 --> 00:32:41,967
*
636
00:32:41,967 --> 00:32:44,533
Narrator: kirsten john-stucke
Is the museum curator
637
00:32:44,533 --> 00:32:48,133
At wewelsburg castle,
An expert on it's dark history.
638
00:33:32,267 --> 00:33:34,667
Kurlander: right.
639
00:33:34,667 --> 00:33:36,933
Himmler wanted his castle
At wewelsburg
640
00:33:36,933 --> 00:33:39,767
To be a kind of nazi camelot
641
00:33:39,767 --> 00:33:42,067
And that was hugely significant
For him
642
00:33:42,067 --> 00:33:45,500
Because he revered
The arthurian knights
643
00:33:45,500 --> 00:33:49,167
And also the german
Legendary knight, parcival,
644
00:33:49,167 --> 00:33:52,533
As people who had been on
The quest for the holy grail.
645
00:33:52,533 --> 00:33:55,300
And he was obsessed with finding
The holy grail as well because,
646
00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:59,367
He thought that the grail,
It wasn't about jesus so much,
647
00:33:59,367 --> 00:34:02,600
As finding a key
To the underlying truth
648
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,567
About the aryan race.
649
00:34:04,567 --> 00:34:09,733
Himmler was fascinated
By fairy tales of king arthur,
650
00:34:09,733 --> 00:34:11,367
The holy grail.
651
00:34:11,367 --> 00:34:16,500
He was also into knights
Templars and stuff like that.
652
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:18,667
He was fascinated
By the number 12
653
00:34:18,667 --> 00:34:22,633
And he had 12 ss officers
Who used to,
654
00:34:22,633 --> 00:34:25,267
I suppose for want of
A better word, attend,
655
00:34:25,267 --> 00:34:26,933
Stand round the table,
656
00:34:26,933 --> 00:34:30,667
Representing the 12 knights
Of king arthur.
657
00:34:33,500 --> 00:34:35,467
Narrator: in the north tower
Of the castle,
658
00:34:35,467 --> 00:34:37,933
Is a very strange room indeed.
659
00:34:37,933 --> 00:34:40,200
Originally
A christian prayer space,
660
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,267
Himmler had it redesigned
With 12 pillars
661
00:34:43,267 --> 00:34:47,967
Representing the 12 knights
And mysterious black sun symbol.
662
00:34:47,967 --> 00:34:49,967
Kurlander:
But if we look at the plans
For this room,
663
00:34:49,967 --> 00:34:52,167
They took a sacred space
664
00:34:52,167 --> 00:34:54,667
From the christian tradition
Of this building
665
00:34:54,667 --> 00:34:57,800
And they mapped onto it
A more pagan religious,
666
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,400
Germanic pre-christian
Symbology.
667
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,067
And that's characterized best,
By this sun wheel.
668
00:35:05,067 --> 00:35:10,200
Zone and rod with the 12
Different sig runes.
669
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,667
Walters:
The point about wewelsburg,
670
00:35:11,667 --> 00:35:15,433
It's himmler's effort to try
And create a camelot.
671
00:35:15,433 --> 00:35:18,700
You know, if himmler is arthur,
Wewelsburg is camelot.
672
00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:21,200
This is where his high order
Of knights,
673
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,200
The ss, will have as
Their quazi-spiritual home.
674
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,400
And it's from there that every
Ss man's ring, when he's killed,
675
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,133
Will be sent back
To be held in eternity.
676
00:35:32,133 --> 00:35:38,533
These are kind of religious,
Cultist concepts
677
00:35:38,533 --> 00:35:41,367
And wewelsburg
Was the perfect place for that.
678
00:35:41,367 --> 00:35:45,733
Gough:
Wewelsburg is a creepy place
Today, it really is.
679
00:35:45,733 --> 00:35:47,300
You walk into the north tower
680
00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:52,933
And you feel like you're walking
Into an evil, ritual center
681
00:35:52,933 --> 00:35:57,067
Where gosh only knows
What rituals were performed,
682
00:35:57,067 --> 00:35:59,500
But you have swastikas
Everywhere.
683
00:35:59,500 --> 00:36:01,700
You have eagles,
You have a black sun,
684
00:36:01,700 --> 00:36:04,733
You have fire marks
On the walls.
685
00:36:04,733 --> 00:36:08,667
It really feels like something
Bad had happened here
686
00:36:08,667 --> 00:36:11,633
And it's imbued it
With that sort of energy.
687
00:36:11,633 --> 00:36:18,800
*
688
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,300
Kurlander:
So if we think about himmler's
Personal journey,
689
00:36:21,300 --> 00:36:25,067
We have everything
That himmler aspired to,
690
00:36:25,067 --> 00:36:27,233
Coming together in this site.
691
00:36:27,233 --> 00:36:31,067
The center of his entire empire,
Where he hoped after the war,
692
00:36:31,067 --> 00:36:33,433
To become kind of the second
In command,
693
00:36:33,433 --> 00:36:36,633
The second most important
Leader of this third reich,
694
00:36:36,633 --> 00:36:39,800
Next to hitler,
His right hand man.
695
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,233
So it's fitting that we conclude
Our journey at the wewelsburg,
696
00:36:44,233 --> 00:36:46,200
Because the wewelsburg
Brings together
697
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,867
All three of the strains
That kind of
698
00:36:47,867 --> 00:36:50,300
Made up himmler's
Supernatural imaginary.
699
00:36:52,467 --> 00:36:54,967
Narrator: with the nazis
Now mercilessly bombarding
700
00:36:54,967 --> 00:36:57,433
The allies
With bullets and sorcery,
701
00:36:57,433 --> 00:37:01,367
Hitler was about to let his
Belief in the occult go too far.
702
00:37:03,567 --> 00:37:14,667
*
703
00:37:14,667 --> 00:37:18,067
Narrator:
The nazis' ideology of racial
Discrimination and hate
704
00:37:18,067 --> 00:37:22,067
Was built on twisted
Pagan mythology and black magic.
705
00:37:22,067 --> 00:37:26,700
Dr. Selwood:
On one level, all this nazi
Occult activity is deeply silly
706
00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:27,933
And a great distraction,
707
00:37:27,933 --> 00:37:30,167
But on another actually,
It's deathly serious,
708
00:37:30,167 --> 00:37:33,133
Because this sense
Of superiority,
709
00:37:33,133 --> 00:37:35,433
This sense of being descended
From a greater race,
710
00:37:35,433 --> 00:37:36,733
A different race,
A race apart,
711
00:37:36,733 --> 00:37:38,533
They thought they came
From divine sperm,
712
00:37:38,533 --> 00:37:40,800
Not from the apes
Like everybody else.
713
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,333
This actually created a mind set
That was capable of the horrors
714
00:37:44,333 --> 00:37:46,633
Of the second world war
And ultimately,
715
00:37:46,633 --> 00:37:49,933
Their own defeat by taking on
Far more than they could manage.
716
00:37:49,933 --> 00:37:55,067
*
717
00:37:55,067 --> 00:37:59,333
Narrator:
And hitler's faith in the occult
Was about to seal his fate.
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Mcmahon: himmler's obsession
With the occult
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Had an appalling consequence
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When it came to the battle
Of stalingrad,
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Because apparently,
He told hitler that it would be
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Okay having the german soldiers
Marching into the russian winter
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Because aryans could withstand
Cold better than non-aryans.
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Well that proved to be
Entirely false.
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Janulis:
So despite being fantastic
Strategists,
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Engineers,
Military organizers,
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They still had some really
Interesting ways
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Of approaching decision
Making.
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And one of them was that
They were using occult
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Sort of processes
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And they believed
That they could invade russia
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And succeed
Where napoleon failed,
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Because their ancestry dated
Back to the hyperborean culture,
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The northern climate,
Fierce people.
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And they thought that even
If they ended up
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Stuck in russian winter,
They were tough enough.
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They had the genetic background.
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They could deal with it.
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If the nazis had stopped all
This nonsense with astronomy,
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Astrologers,
Dowsing, tarot cards,
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If they'd stopped all that
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And got on
With the war properly,
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I think they'd probably
Have beaten us.
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*
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Narrator: in 1945,
Hitler committed suicide
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And nazi germany surrendered.
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Millions had been killed
And world war two
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Would cast
A dark shadow forever
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But what went wrong
For the nazis?
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How did they get so close
To world domination
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Only to fall
So spectacularly?
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Picknett:
Certainly not every last nazi
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Was into what we would call,
The occult.
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In fact very,
Very few of them ever were.
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And even heinrich himmler who
Was the great nazi "Occultist"
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Was more really of a,
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What we would think of,
As a new ager.
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More mystically inclined
Than, you know,
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Casting dark spells,
Although of course,
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He was a nazi,
He didn't have to.
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Dr. Selwood:
They were desperately
Dark sides to this
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Occult obsession as well.
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The planning and execution
Of the final solution
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Was left to the ss
And there's no doubt
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That this was one of the most
Horrific acts in modern history,
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Was carried out by people
Who believed
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That they were
Superior to others.
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And those occult beliefs had
A strong component
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In creating
That vision of the ss
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As people who were capable of,
And entitled to do this.
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Walters: the nazi obsession
With the occult
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Is one of the reasons
Ultimately why project hitler,
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Or project third reich,
If you like,
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Was going to be doomed.
Why?
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Because they kind of saw
This idea of a story
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Before it even took place.
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So they had this idea that
There's a narrative
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That we're going to last
For a thousand years
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And we're going to build
These enormous buildings
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And leave behind
All these runes,
781
00:41:02,867 --> 00:41:05,567
And this temple
Called wewelsburg, effectively.
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00:41:05,567 --> 00:41:06,867
Therefore, you know,
We are going to be
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This new kind of culture
And civilization
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That has it's own religion
And mysticism.
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So what you're doing is you're
Creating a narrative
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For yourself that's going to
Go on for a thousand years.
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And what does that give you?
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That gives you an enormous sense
Of arrogance and hubris.
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It makes you think
That genuinely you
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Are going to last for that long
And actually instead,
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It doesn't
Really work out like that.
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It goes from 1933 to 1945,
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You know,
And it ends with a big bang.
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*
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Farrar: magic is neither
Black nor white.
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It's like electricity.
797
00:41:40,733 --> 00:41:44,567
You can plug in something
So useful or an electric chair.
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The energy of the universe
Is neutral.
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People who misuse it,
Such as the nazis,
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00:41:50,900 --> 00:41:55,067
And, yes, that's black magic,
Ended up destroying themselves.
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From the moment they put
The finger in the socket,
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It was the electric chair,
All the way down the line.
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