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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,167 --> 00:00:05,067 Narrator: The nazis and their ruthless Pursuit of world domination 2 00:00:05,067 --> 00:00:06,600 Is the stuff of legend, 3 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,833 But is there any truth To the idea 4 00:00:08,833 --> 00:00:10,867 That hitler was using Black magic 5 00:00:10,867 --> 00:00:14,267 And witchcraft in his quests To take over the world? 6 00:00:14,267 --> 00:00:17,733 For the nazis, The occult was like oxygen. 7 00:00:17,733 --> 00:00:21,000 It was the backbone Of their ideology. 8 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,900 They were trying to use Pseudo-science of the time 9 00:00:23,900 --> 00:00:27,433 To justify Why the aryan race was superior. 10 00:00:27,433 --> 00:00:30,333 Picknett: they basically turned Normal, civilized 11 00:00:30,333 --> 00:00:31,967 Human beings into monsters, 12 00:00:31,967 --> 00:00:35,633 So that has to be A sinister occult ritual. 13 00:00:35,633 --> 00:00:39,400 Farrar: If magic is ever used to destroy Something it is used 14 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:40,733 To destroy evil, 15 00:00:40,733 --> 00:00:44,333 Such as stopping the nazis From invading britain. 16 00:00:44,333 --> 00:00:47,867 Felix: If the nazis had stopped all This nonsense with astronomy, 17 00:00:47,867 --> 00:00:51,033 Astrologers, Dowsing, tarot cards, 18 00:00:51,033 --> 00:00:52,567 If they'd stopped all that And got on 19 00:00:52,567 --> 00:00:54,167 With the war properly, 20 00:00:54,167 --> 00:00:56,067 I think they'd probably Have beaten us. 21 00:00:56,067 --> 00:01:14,267 * 22 00:01:14,267 --> 00:01:17,267 -- captions by vitac -- Www.Vitac.Com 23 00:01:17,267 --> 00:01:20,300 Captions paid for by Discovery communications 24 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,667 Narrator: In the years leading up to nazi Germany's declaration of war, 25 00:01:27,667 --> 00:01:30,200 A bizarre obsession Began to take hold 26 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:32,533 Within the newly-formed Political party. 27 00:01:32,533 --> 00:01:36,567 A strange twisted mythology Based on ancient pagan beliefs 28 00:01:36,567 --> 00:01:39,367 And sorcery, Was beginning to emerge. 29 00:01:39,367 --> 00:01:41,500 Dr. Selwood: Today, when we think of nazism, 30 00:01:41,500 --> 00:01:44,467 We tend to look at A political ideology 31 00:01:44,467 --> 00:01:47,300 That was bent On territorial conquests 32 00:01:47,300 --> 00:01:50,233 And on racial extermination. 33 00:01:50,233 --> 00:01:51,867 But actually it's broader Than that. 34 00:01:51,867 --> 00:01:55,700 There's a more philosophical Part of nazism as well. 35 00:01:55,700 --> 00:02:01,433 Picknett: The nazis subscribed to an Extreme version of ariosophy. 36 00:02:01,433 --> 00:02:04,300 Ariosophy was the idea 37 00:02:04,300 --> 00:02:07,800 That there was an ancient Germanic aryan race, 38 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,767 That was a pure race, A strong race. 39 00:02:10,767 --> 00:02:14,900 Gough: This notion of this ancient, Mystic, aryan race 40 00:02:14,900 --> 00:02:17,267 That's been around Thousands of years, 41 00:02:17,267 --> 00:02:20,733 They felt that gave them Entitlement. 42 00:02:20,733 --> 00:02:23,933 And was the motivation And the justification 43 00:02:23,933 --> 00:02:26,667 For all of their Despicable actions. 44 00:02:29,433 --> 00:02:32,067 Narrator: Heinrich himmler was hitler's Second in command 45 00:02:32,067 --> 00:02:35,367 And the man chiefly responsible For actively encouraging 46 00:02:35,367 --> 00:02:37,167 Not only the belief In the occult, 47 00:02:37,167 --> 00:02:40,767 But also the idea that the nazis Really were descended 48 00:02:40,767 --> 00:02:43,400 From a super race of beings. 49 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,733 Gough: Heinrich himmler was one of the Most powerful men in germany. 50 00:02:47,733 --> 00:02:53,167 He was hitler's right hand man And the commander of the ss. 51 00:02:53,167 --> 00:02:54,933 Dr. Bellinger: He was a rabid occultist. 52 00:02:54,933 --> 00:02:56,967 And really brought to hitler 53 00:02:56,967 --> 00:03:00,167 A whole panoply Of propaganda tools 54 00:03:00,167 --> 00:03:04,667 That he could use to justify What the nazis were doing. 55 00:03:04,667 --> 00:03:09,833 And to really place it in the Roots of a false aryan mythology 56 00:03:09,833 --> 00:03:14,500 Designed to make the average German person feel not just okay 57 00:03:14,500 --> 00:03:18,067 With what hitler was doing, But proud of it. 58 00:03:18,067 --> 00:03:22,367 Mcmahon: Heinrich himmler was the founder And the head of the ss. 59 00:03:22,367 --> 00:03:25,267 He also ended up leading The gestapo 60 00:03:25,267 --> 00:03:28,067 And eventually founded The concentration camps 61 00:03:28,067 --> 00:03:30,400 That killed millions of people. 62 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,133 And what drove him In his mission 63 00:03:33,133 --> 00:03:37,200 Was this underlying belief That the german people 64 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,233 Were set apart From the rest of humanity. 65 00:03:40,233 --> 00:03:41,600 And in order to prove that, 66 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,400 He delved very deeply Into the occult. 67 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:50,300 He needed to find a supernatural Back story to the german people 68 00:03:50,300 --> 00:03:54,067 And that led him on the trail Of the holy grail. 69 00:03:54,067 --> 00:03:56,867 It led him to send people All over the world 70 00:03:56,867 --> 00:04:02,133 Looking for non-evolutionary Roots of the german people. 71 00:04:05,967 --> 00:04:08,867 Narrator: eric kurlander Is a historian and author 72 00:04:08,867 --> 00:04:11,833 Who has researched Nazi occultism for decades. 73 00:04:11,833 --> 00:04:14,167 He has traveled to Quedlinburg castle, 74 00:04:14,167 --> 00:04:17,200 A 1,000-year old fortress In central germany 75 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:21,200 To uncover the origin Of himmler's occult obsession. 76 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,133 So we're approaching the Quedlinburg castle and abbey 77 00:04:25,133 --> 00:04:28,333 Which was founded 1,100 years Ago by henry the fowler, 78 00:04:28,333 --> 00:04:30,100 The great saxon king. 79 00:04:30,100 --> 00:04:33,300 Henry the fowler was seen As more authentically german 80 00:04:33,300 --> 00:04:35,800 Than other germanic kings Of the middle ages, 81 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,900 By heinrich himmler, The reich's fuhrer ss, 82 00:04:38,900 --> 00:04:41,867 Who decided that This would be a site 83 00:04:41,867 --> 00:04:46,233 Where you could celebrate Germanic paganism. 84 00:04:46,233 --> 00:04:48,700 Dr. Bellinger: Henry the fowler was King heinrich the first 85 00:04:48,700 --> 00:04:50,933 And he unified For the first time, 86 00:04:50,933 --> 00:04:54,067 The german state in 956 87 00:04:54,067 --> 00:04:57,567 And brought together everybody Out of warring territories. 88 00:04:57,567 --> 00:05:01,067 And it was the launch of what Became known as the first reich. 89 00:05:01,067 --> 00:05:03,167 So it makes a lot of sense That himmler was going 90 00:05:03,167 --> 00:05:08,133 To appropriate this myth For propaganda purposes. 91 00:05:08,133 --> 00:05:09,900 Kurlander: So himmler was raised catholic, 92 00:05:09,900 --> 00:05:13,200 But he very early on rejected His christian upbringing. 93 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,200 And sought to create Through the ss, 94 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,667 A kind of pre-christian Religious tradition in germany. 95 00:05:18,667 --> 00:05:20,967 An ario-germanic religion. 96 00:05:20,967 --> 00:05:22,167 One way he was going to do that 97 00:05:22,167 --> 00:05:24,667 Was by taking Christian festivals, 98 00:05:24,667 --> 00:05:26,500 Like christmas And replacing them 99 00:05:26,500 --> 00:05:28,633 With the old Winter solstice festivals, 100 00:05:28,633 --> 00:05:33,867 The yule celebrations of Pre-christian pagan tradition. 101 00:05:33,867 --> 00:05:37,133 For example, in this room, In 1936, 102 00:05:37,133 --> 00:05:39,667 He inaugurated The first festival 103 00:05:39,667 --> 00:05:42,967 In honor of henry the fowler, The great saxon king, 104 00:05:42,967 --> 00:05:47,067 Who for him represented The pre-christian german reality 105 00:05:47,067 --> 00:05:50,067 That he wanted to recreate. 106 00:05:50,067 --> 00:05:54,167 Himmler genuinely believed that He was either the reincarnation 107 00:05:54,167 --> 00:05:56,267 Or the descendant Of henry the fowler. 108 00:05:56,267 --> 00:05:59,400 And himmler, In his deluded state, 109 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:03,567 Used to go to the abbey, Hold séances in the abbey, 110 00:06:03,567 --> 00:06:07,533 Prayed at the grave or The shrine of henry the fouler. 111 00:06:07,533 --> 00:06:10,667 And genuinely believed That he was able to connect 112 00:06:10,667 --> 00:06:14,300 With the spirit Of his dead ancestor. 113 00:06:17,567 --> 00:06:21,600 Kurlander: So we're standing in the oldest Part of the quedlinburg 114 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,067 Castle and monastery. 115 00:06:24,067 --> 00:06:25,800 Where henry the fowler, 116 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,267 Who built the very foundations Of this monastery, 117 00:06:29,267 --> 00:06:32,967 Was buried a thousand years ago. 118 00:06:32,967 --> 00:06:35,200 So one of the reasons that Heinrich himmler 119 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,067 Found this space so interesting, 120 00:06:38,067 --> 00:06:41,267 Is it wasn't just The saxon origins, 121 00:06:41,267 --> 00:06:43,367 The basis of Ario-germanic empire 122 00:06:43,367 --> 00:06:45,700 That he and the ss Wanted to recreate, 123 00:06:45,700 --> 00:06:47,333 He actually believed He may have been 124 00:06:47,333 --> 00:06:51,300 The reincarnation Of henry the fowler. 125 00:06:51,300 --> 00:06:54,633 So this space really represent One part of what I call 126 00:06:54,633 --> 00:06:59,167 The supernatural imaginary That many nazis subscribe to. 127 00:06:59,167 --> 00:07:01,133 It's linked to pagan religion. 128 00:07:01,133 --> 00:07:03,500 An ario-germanic Religious beliefs, 129 00:07:03,500 --> 00:07:05,233 Kind of pre-christian beliefs, 130 00:07:05,233 --> 00:07:07,833 That was an important pillar Of nazi thinking. 131 00:07:07,833 --> 00:07:12,667 It overlaps in some ways With occult and esoteric ideas, 132 00:07:12,667 --> 00:07:14,067 But it's not the same thing 133 00:07:14,067 --> 00:07:16,200 And that's why The quedlinburg is more 134 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,867 A kind of pagan religious site For heinrich himmler. 135 00:07:20,867 --> 00:07:22,967 Walters: so what you see With this young himmler, 136 00:07:22,967 --> 00:07:24,200 He's very impressionable. 137 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,767 He looks back along the prussian And germanic past, 138 00:07:26,767 --> 00:07:31,367 Myth and legend and there He finds examples and stories 139 00:07:31,367 --> 00:07:34,633 And the kind of heroes, That he always wants to be. 140 00:07:34,633 --> 00:07:36,733 And so therefore, He's very seduced 141 00:07:36,733 --> 00:07:39,700 By the whole feel Of that legend and myth 142 00:07:39,700 --> 00:07:42,067 And also by The esoteric-ism of it. 143 00:07:42,067 --> 00:07:45,233 And he really buys in to all The runes and the culture 144 00:07:45,233 --> 00:07:48,167 And the magic And all the mumbo-jumbo. 145 00:07:48,167 --> 00:07:51,833 Narrator: But himmler's strange beliefs In ancient german mythology 146 00:07:51,833 --> 00:07:53,300 And esoteric-ism, 147 00:07:53,300 --> 00:07:56,100 Soon took A much more sinister turn. 148 00:07:56,100 --> 00:08:00,167 While studying farming at the Technical university in munich, 149 00:08:00,167 --> 00:08:02,333 Himmler became fascinated With breeding. 150 00:08:02,333 --> 00:08:03,600 Selective breeding. 151 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,300 Not just animals, But also human beings. 152 00:08:06,300 --> 00:08:09,867 Could we create or recreate More importantly, a master race? 153 00:08:09,867 --> 00:08:12,500 Since himmler believed that The aryan race 154 00:08:12,500 --> 00:08:15,167 Had been perfect Thousands of years earlier, 155 00:08:15,167 --> 00:08:17,433 Maybe you could use modern Breeding techniques 156 00:08:17,433 --> 00:08:21,667 To bring this aryan utopia Back into being. 157 00:08:21,667 --> 00:08:24,333 Dr. Selwood: Nazism was for the whole person. 158 00:08:24,333 --> 00:08:27,833 It wasn't just about the Political side of an individual. 159 00:08:27,833 --> 00:08:29,867 And so elements that were Brought in, 160 00:08:29,867 --> 00:08:31,233 The people Really identified with 161 00:08:31,233 --> 00:08:34,200 And there's so much literature From the period on this, 162 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:35,900 Was particularly linking, 163 00:08:35,900 --> 00:08:38,733 They are descended From these super people, 164 00:08:38,733 --> 00:08:40,367 Who lived millenia ago. 165 00:08:40,367 --> 00:08:42,067 So this is a tradition. 166 00:08:42,067 --> 00:08:43,433 It's a continuation. 167 00:08:43,433 --> 00:08:45,600 The nazis didn't think they were Inventing something. 168 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,833 They thought they were tapping Into an ancient force. 169 00:08:49,833 --> 00:08:53,167 Narrator: Inspired by german paganism, Himmler took his occult 170 00:08:53,167 --> 00:08:56,567 Thinking even further And used an ancient code 171 00:08:56,567 --> 00:08:59,500 To create the most feared Symbol of all. 172 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:08,367 * 173 00:09:08,367 --> 00:09:10,200 Narrator: In the lead up to world war two, 174 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,300 The nazis became Increasingly obsessed 175 00:09:12,300 --> 00:09:16,133 With ancient german mythology And black magic. 176 00:09:16,133 --> 00:09:19,967 Mcmahon: From the outset, the nazis Were heavily influenced 177 00:09:19,967 --> 00:09:21,600 By occult ideas. 178 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,900 Hitler, himmler, and others Were desperate to prove 179 00:09:24,900 --> 00:09:29,067 That the "Aryan race" had Somehow originated 180 00:09:29,067 --> 00:09:30,867 Separately from The rest of humanity. 181 00:09:30,867 --> 00:09:34,633 And in order to prove that Highly unscientific theory, 182 00:09:34,633 --> 00:09:37,433 They needed to resort To something supernatural, 183 00:09:37,433 --> 00:09:39,067 Something occult. 184 00:09:39,067 --> 00:09:42,200 Dr. Bellinger: By telling the german people That they were descended 185 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,933 From a master race, A superior race of beings, 186 00:09:45,933 --> 00:09:53,233 That literally derived from epic Mythology of superb peace, 187 00:09:53,233 --> 00:09:56,333 Harmony, and achievement, This is really canny. 188 00:09:56,333 --> 00:09:58,533 I mean this was directly Addressing 189 00:09:58,533 --> 00:10:01,133 The psychological damage Done upon 190 00:10:01,133 --> 00:10:05,067 The german national psyche By world war I. 191 00:10:05,067 --> 00:10:08,867 Narrator: Guido von list was a key figure In early nazi occultism 192 00:10:08,867 --> 00:10:11,667 And a major influence On heinrich himmler. 193 00:10:11,667 --> 00:10:16,667 Gough: Guido von list was an occultist Who revived a religious movement 194 00:10:16,667 --> 00:10:22,633 Which showed the ancient aryan Roots of the germanic people. 195 00:10:22,633 --> 00:10:24,567 And why this was so important, 196 00:10:24,567 --> 00:10:28,467 Is that it served As the inspiration to himmler 197 00:10:28,467 --> 00:10:31,733 Who would later adopt These same beliefs. 198 00:10:31,733 --> 00:10:35,000 Dr. Bellinger: Guido von list was a paganist Who was responsible, 199 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,867 Largely, For the runic revival, 200 00:10:36,867 --> 00:10:39,367 Which became a really Central part of the symbolism 201 00:10:39,367 --> 00:10:42,033 And iconography Of the nazi party. 202 00:10:42,033 --> 00:10:46,267 And particularly of the regalia Worn by the ss. 203 00:10:49,567 --> 00:10:52,300 Narrator: It was list's teachings that Encouraged himmler 204 00:10:52,300 --> 00:10:55,767 To turn his twisted mind To an ancient language 205 00:10:55,767 --> 00:10:58,533 Made of magical symbols Called runes. 206 00:10:58,533 --> 00:11:01,600 Gavin bone is a historian And expert on runes, 207 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,667 Who believes they are the key to Understanding nazi iconography. 208 00:11:05,667 --> 00:11:09,633 Bone: So the word rune comes from The old german, "Runyon" 209 00:11:09,633 --> 00:11:14,167 Which means a mystery, a secret, To whisper, something hidden. 210 00:11:14,167 --> 00:11:17,967 And the runes originally were A system of writing 211 00:11:17,967 --> 00:11:21,333 Amongst the german peoples Going back, they believe, 212 00:11:21,333 --> 00:11:23,500 As far back as 200 bc. 213 00:11:23,500 --> 00:11:26,600 Their origins in nazi occultism 214 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,700 Derive from An austrian journalist, 215 00:11:28,700 --> 00:11:33,367 Playwright and author Named guido list. 216 00:11:33,367 --> 00:11:37,967 Guido von list believed that There had been a germanic empire 217 00:11:37,967 --> 00:11:41,067 That worshiped A pagan god, wotan, 218 00:11:41,067 --> 00:11:43,167 And that used this runic script. 219 00:11:43,167 --> 00:11:46,400 And in fact, the nazis Latched on to this idea 220 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:49,800 Of the runic alphabet Being the true german alphabet. 221 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,900 And it informed Their iconography, 222 00:11:51,900 --> 00:11:56,067 In particular the ss logo That we all know today. 223 00:11:56,067 --> 00:12:00,533 Bone: Von list is responsible for is The integration of the runes 224 00:12:00,533 --> 00:12:04,100 Into the ss as symbols. 225 00:12:04,100 --> 00:12:07,267 One of the most famous symbols The nazi's were associated with 226 00:12:07,267 --> 00:12:10,333 Was the double lightning flash, The double sig 227 00:12:10,333 --> 00:12:13,100 Or the schutzstaffel -- The ss. 228 00:12:13,100 --> 00:12:16,867 Which comes from the sig rune Also known as the sowilo rune. 229 00:12:16,867 --> 00:12:19,733 This rune was originally As symbol of success, 230 00:12:19,733 --> 00:12:21,667 Of happiness, of peace. 231 00:12:21,667 --> 00:12:23,067 It becomes twisted. 232 00:12:23,067 --> 00:12:26,600 It becomes a symbol for victory, 233 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:32,533 Hence the nazi salute, "Zeig heil" is "Hail victory." 234 00:12:32,533 --> 00:12:36,433 Here you see the double S patch, double sig patch. 235 00:12:36,433 --> 00:12:37,833 Here you see it actually as it 236 00:12:37,833 --> 00:12:43,100 Was originally in The elder futhark runes. 237 00:12:43,100 --> 00:12:44,733 Dr. Selwood: Himmler wanted the ss to stand 238 00:12:44,733 --> 00:12:46,800 For something out Of the ordinary 239 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,433 And to do that, He infused it 240 00:12:48,433 --> 00:12:51,833 With all these different Currents of the occult. 241 00:12:51,833 --> 00:12:53,633 So most obviously he did it Visually. 242 00:12:53,633 --> 00:12:55,333 So things like the ss rune, 243 00:12:55,333 --> 00:12:57,733 The two letters s you see, The lightning bolts, 244 00:12:57,733 --> 00:13:00,300 Those are old germanic runes, It's called the sig rune. 245 00:13:00,300 --> 00:13:02,533 They have meaning. They can be interpreted. 246 00:13:02,533 --> 00:13:06,767 Many other runes were used in ss Uniforms, in ss banners, 247 00:13:06,767 --> 00:13:08,733 On the daggers that they had, 248 00:13:08,733 --> 00:13:11,267 All sorts of articles Of ss paraphernalia 249 00:13:11,267 --> 00:13:14,067 Were engraved and emblazoned With these runes. 250 00:13:17,967 --> 00:13:20,767 It was guido list who introduced One of the most well known, 251 00:13:20,767 --> 00:13:24,167 And has become of the most Hated symbols in the world, 252 00:13:24,167 --> 00:13:26,067 And that was the swastika. 253 00:13:26,067 --> 00:13:29,400 Of course that was not It's original german name. 254 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:30,733 It had several names. 255 00:13:30,733 --> 00:13:33,100 The hakenkruis, The hooked cross. 256 00:13:33,100 --> 00:13:36,833 The fylfot, The many-footed cross. 257 00:13:36,833 --> 00:13:39,267 Now one of the great fallacies Which has occurred 258 00:13:39,267 --> 00:13:41,367 Since the second world war, 259 00:13:41,367 --> 00:13:44,267 Is the nazis, Specifically hitler and himmler, 260 00:13:44,267 --> 00:13:47,400 Reversed the rotation. 261 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:48,733 That's actually not true. 262 00:13:48,733 --> 00:13:51,233 As you can see from this sensa From india, 263 00:13:51,233 --> 00:13:53,767 It is in fact Going the same direction. 264 00:13:53,767 --> 00:13:58,300 The double sig, is actually The same as the swastika. 265 00:13:58,300 --> 00:14:01,600 If you take the two sig And interlock them, 266 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:02,967 They actually Become the swastika. 267 00:14:02,967 --> 00:14:05,067 They originally meant The same thing. 268 00:14:05,067 --> 00:14:07,233 But of course the swastika Was never originally 269 00:14:07,233 --> 00:14:08,600 A symbol of hate. 270 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,167 You still find it Around the world 271 00:14:10,167 --> 00:14:12,233 In many cultures and traditions. 272 00:14:12,233 --> 00:14:15,733 And still you see in places Such as india, tibet, 273 00:14:15,733 --> 00:14:19,967 The swastika is still in use As a sacred symbol. 274 00:14:19,967 --> 00:14:21,400 It represents the sun. 275 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:25,567 It represents good luck, Good fortune. 276 00:14:25,567 --> 00:14:28,233 Walters: You've got to remember that The nazis were really good 277 00:14:28,233 --> 00:14:30,433 At the branding business, Is what we call it today. 278 00:14:30,433 --> 00:14:34,167 I mean there is no better brand Than the swastika. 279 00:14:34,167 --> 00:14:36,267 I mean it's a very, Very powerful icon 280 00:14:36,267 --> 00:14:38,167 Set on the white and the red, 281 00:14:38,167 --> 00:14:41,633 You know these are incredibly Captivating colors, normally. 282 00:14:41,633 --> 00:14:44,167 And then the symbol of the Swastika is very powerful 283 00:14:44,167 --> 00:14:46,133 And equally the ss runes, 284 00:14:46,133 --> 00:14:49,067 And they were runes, From norse culture. 285 00:14:49,067 --> 00:14:52,633 So obviously you even got The uniform of the kind of elite 286 00:14:52,633 --> 00:14:56,333 Armed unit of the third reich Were dressed you know, 287 00:14:56,333 --> 00:15:00,500 With these symbols, which had Their roots in mythology. 288 00:15:00,500 --> 00:15:03,900 Narrator: Eric kurlander is an academic And author who has spend decades 289 00:15:03,900 --> 00:15:06,667 On covering the nazis Occult obsession. 290 00:15:06,667 --> 00:15:09,067 Core to the nazis Twisted ideology, 291 00:15:09,067 --> 00:15:12,067 Was a belief called irminism, A pseudo-religion, 292 00:15:12,067 --> 00:15:13,967 Which ss commander himmler Believed 293 00:15:13,967 --> 00:15:16,167 Was worshipped At various pagan sites 294 00:15:16,167 --> 00:15:18,800 In ancient history, Across germany. 295 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:22,767 Kurlander: So arminism or irminism as The ariosophists called it, 296 00:15:22,767 --> 00:15:26,333 Believe that there is An ancient germanic civilization 297 00:15:26,333 --> 00:15:28,200 That lived in pre-history, 298 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,100 Where there were frost giants And dwarves. 299 00:15:30,100 --> 00:15:32,767 And potentially that this Aryan civilization 300 00:15:32,767 --> 00:15:35,567 Had originated from meeting With extra-terrestrials, 301 00:15:35,567 --> 00:15:37,167 Which is why it was so powerful, 302 00:15:37,167 --> 00:15:39,267 And had a third eye And could you know, 303 00:15:39,267 --> 00:15:43,967 Exercise greater mental acuity Than normal races on earth. 304 00:15:43,967 --> 00:15:47,133 And this superior civilization Practiced a kind of religion, 305 00:15:47,133 --> 00:15:49,533 A culture That they thought lasted 306 00:15:49,533 --> 00:15:51,867 Until the early medieval period. 307 00:15:51,867 --> 00:15:54,767 And was practiced here At the externsteine. 308 00:15:54,767 --> 00:15:56,833 Narrator: Also compared to stonehenge, 309 00:15:56,833 --> 00:16:00,867 The externsteine is a collection Of giant sandstone pillars, 310 00:16:00,867 --> 00:16:04,067 Used a pagan religious site For millennia. 311 00:16:04,067 --> 00:16:06,967 Kurlander: To the externsteine are a site 312 00:16:06,967 --> 00:16:10,367 Where himmler's various Fantasies kind of come together. 313 00:16:10,367 --> 00:16:12,933 His religious beliefs about A pre-christian 314 00:16:12,933 --> 00:16:17,267 Germanic religious tradition, His border scientific beliefs 315 00:16:17,267 --> 00:16:20,333 That you could use Archeology and astrology 316 00:16:20,333 --> 00:16:22,133 To recreate the foundations 317 00:16:22,133 --> 00:16:24,333 Of this ancient Germanic civilization. 318 00:16:24,333 --> 00:16:26,200 And of course his occult belief, 319 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:30,067 All of that comes together At the externsteine. 320 00:16:30,067 --> 00:16:32,800 Dr. Selwood: Himmler was a nutter And like all nutters, 321 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,067 He was preoccupied With pseudo-science. 322 00:16:35,067 --> 00:16:37,100 So he created, Within the ss, 323 00:16:37,100 --> 00:16:38,733 A division called The ahnenerbe, 324 00:16:38,733 --> 00:16:40,767 Which means ancestral heritage. 325 00:16:40,767 --> 00:16:43,367 And his idea was that This would be a think tank 326 00:16:43,367 --> 00:16:44,833 That would roam the world 327 00:16:44,833 --> 00:16:47,633 And gather evidence Of these ancient cultures 328 00:16:47,633 --> 00:16:50,233 And demonstrate that his racial Theories and theories 329 00:16:50,233 --> 00:16:53,200 About germanic super people, Were actually right. 330 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,667 Janulis: And they even got scientists, Archaeologists, biologists, 331 00:16:56,667 --> 00:16:59,867 Et cetera in on these teams Going around 332 00:16:59,867 --> 00:17:03,067 Looking for the origins Of true aryans. 333 00:17:03,067 --> 00:17:04,800 And the ancient giants, 334 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:06,767 The niflheim And these sorts of things 335 00:17:06,767 --> 00:17:09,200 And measuring people's Heads out in nepal. 336 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,733 And so I can't imagine Respected scientists 337 00:17:12,733 --> 00:17:15,267 Signing up for one Of these projects, 338 00:17:15,267 --> 00:17:18,567 Unless they were forced To do so politically. 339 00:17:18,567 --> 00:17:20,833 Narrator: according to legend, The irminists, 340 00:17:20,833 --> 00:17:23,200 Like the mythical civilization Of atlantis, 341 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,833 Had a fantastically Advanced technology. 342 00:17:25,833 --> 00:17:28,400 And himmler believed that If he could find evidence 343 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,300 Of this ancient technology At the externsteine, 344 00:17:31,300 --> 00:17:33,067 It would prove that The german people 345 00:17:33,067 --> 00:17:35,233 Were descendants Of a master race 346 00:17:35,233 --> 00:17:38,633 And therefore, The true rulers of the earth. 347 00:17:38,633 --> 00:17:41,467 So one of the things that the Archaeologists in the institute 348 00:17:41,467 --> 00:17:44,100 For ancestral research, Were looking for, 349 00:17:44,100 --> 00:17:47,700 Was evidence of a superior Pre-christian civilization, 350 00:17:47,700 --> 00:17:49,800 Tens of thousands of years old. 351 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,100 They were excavating, 352 00:17:51,100 --> 00:17:53,833 Looking for evidence Of this superior civilization. 353 00:17:53,833 --> 00:17:57,433 What they found were neolithic Tools and other evidence 354 00:17:57,433 --> 00:18:00,100 Showing that There had been some you know, 355 00:18:00,100 --> 00:18:01,767 Transient human settlements Here 356 00:18:01,767 --> 00:18:06,667 But nothing co-noting A great germanic civilization. 357 00:18:06,667 --> 00:18:09,133 Narrator: But himmler wasn't deterred By this lack of 358 00:18:09,133 --> 00:18:10,767 Archaeological evidence. 359 00:18:10,767 --> 00:18:14,067 Meanwhile, what were hitler's Beliefs during this time? 360 00:18:14,067 --> 00:18:16,233 Like himmler, Was he under the influence 361 00:18:16,233 --> 00:18:18,167 Of black magic and mythology? 362 00:18:20,067 --> 00:18:24,967 * 363 00:18:24,967 --> 00:18:28,067 [ shouting in german ] 364 00:18:28,067 --> 00:18:31,367 Narrator: Nazism was more than just A political ideology. 365 00:18:31,367 --> 00:18:34,100 It was a philosophy full of Occult ideas 366 00:18:34,100 --> 00:18:36,067 Based on pagan mythology. 367 00:18:36,067 --> 00:18:38,300 Gough: The nazi occult beliefs Were extreme. 368 00:18:38,300 --> 00:18:40,833 For a start they believed That their lineage 369 00:18:40,833 --> 00:18:43,500 Went back thousands of years. 370 00:18:43,500 --> 00:18:47,233 They believed that their life Was seeded on earth 371 00:18:47,233 --> 00:18:51,167 From a meteorite from space, Not like the rest of us. 372 00:18:51,167 --> 00:18:53,767 Dr. Bellinger: The occult was centrally Important to the nazis. 373 00:18:53,767 --> 00:18:56,533 Like not just for what people Thought it might 374 00:18:56,533 --> 00:18:58,233 Effect as magic, 375 00:18:58,233 --> 00:19:01,967 It meant so much On a false but, 376 00:19:01,967 --> 00:19:05,733 Deep, deeply rooted Mythological basis, 377 00:19:05,733 --> 00:19:09,667 That legitimized The entire project. 378 00:19:09,667 --> 00:19:12,233 Narrator: Heinrich himmler was hitler's Right hand man 379 00:19:12,233 --> 00:19:14,567 And founder of the dreaded ss. 380 00:19:14,567 --> 00:19:16,800 Himmler fully believed In the occult 381 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,133 But what about The fuhrer himself? 382 00:19:19,133 --> 00:19:20,700 What influence, if any, 383 00:19:20,700 --> 00:19:23,767 Did black magic Have on adolph hitler? 384 00:19:23,767 --> 00:19:25,600 Janulis: Hitler had a very unique skill. 385 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:29,100 He had the ability to capture An audience, 386 00:19:29,100 --> 00:19:32,100 To capture their minds, Their eyes, their attention 387 00:19:32,100 --> 00:19:34,667 And their hearts All at the same time. 388 00:19:34,667 --> 00:19:37,300 And he used that To great effect. 389 00:19:37,300 --> 00:19:40,300 And he got better and better At it as he became more 390 00:19:40,300 --> 00:19:43,633 And more powerful Within the german government. 391 00:19:43,633 --> 00:19:45,333 Hitler didn't really use magic, 392 00:19:45,333 --> 00:19:47,967 Although is hold over people Was almost magical. 393 00:19:47,967 --> 00:19:49,867 And I think that's an important Thing to bear in mind, 394 00:19:49,867 --> 00:19:54,467 That hitler presented himself And was presented, 395 00:19:54,467 --> 00:19:56,367 As a kind of messianic figure. 396 00:19:56,367 --> 00:19:58,267 And what do messianic figures Have to have? 397 00:19:58,267 --> 00:19:59,667 It's not just charisma, 398 00:19:59,667 --> 00:20:03,700 But they also have to have This sense of other-worldliness. 399 00:20:03,700 --> 00:20:05,600 Felix: So was it just charisma? 400 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:06,900 But if it was, surely that 401 00:20:06,900 --> 00:20:08,567 Would have showed much earlier In his life. 402 00:20:08,567 --> 00:20:10,100 You don't just learn that. 403 00:20:10,100 --> 00:20:11,867 You've got it or you haven't. 404 00:20:11,867 --> 00:20:14,800 So it must be something Surrounded as he was, 405 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,600 With all of this occult, 406 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,867 With dowses and tarot cards And mediums and then perhaps 407 00:20:20,867 --> 00:20:24,300 He became some form of conduit For the whole thing. 408 00:20:24,300 --> 00:20:27,633 And perhaps hitler really Was possessed 409 00:20:27,633 --> 00:20:32,767 By something to do with satan Or the devil 410 00:20:32,767 --> 00:20:35,033 Or some other deity Of some sort. 411 00:20:35,033 --> 00:20:36,500 Perhaps it's real. 412 00:20:36,500 --> 00:20:43,867 [ shouting in german ] 413 00:20:43,867 --> 00:20:46,633 Narrator: So was hitler really channeling Demonic forces 414 00:20:46,633 --> 00:20:48,867 During the infamous Nazi rallies? 415 00:20:48,867 --> 00:20:51,033 Or is there another explanation? 416 00:20:51,033 --> 00:20:54,567 Neil tobin is a chicago Born playwright and performer. 417 00:20:54,567 --> 00:20:59,033 In 2015 tobin wrote a play About arch-nazi occultist 418 00:20:59,033 --> 00:21:00,500 Eric yon henderson, 419 00:21:00,500 --> 00:21:04,700 The man credited with Teaching hitler mass hypnosis. 420 00:21:04,700 --> 00:21:09,067 Eric yon henderson was the most Popular psychic entertainer 421 00:21:09,067 --> 00:21:11,067 In germany pre world war ii. 422 00:21:11,067 --> 00:21:15,567 He conducted performances That incorporated hypnotism. 423 00:21:15,567 --> 00:21:18,967 He was a telepathist -- He read minds. 424 00:21:18,967 --> 00:21:22,300 He made predictions. 425 00:21:22,300 --> 00:21:27,400 He filled the largest Performance spaces in europe. 426 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,833 Picknett: he was very popular With the nazis mainly 427 00:21:29,833 --> 00:21:31,700 Because it is said at least, 428 00:21:31,700 --> 00:21:35,967 That he was hitler's teacher In one sense. 429 00:21:35,967 --> 00:21:37,467 He taught him stage craft. 430 00:21:37,467 --> 00:21:40,267 He taught him how to hold An audience 431 00:21:40,267 --> 00:21:41,533 In the palm of your hands. 432 00:21:41,533 --> 00:21:42,900 How to look them in the eye. 433 00:21:42,900 --> 00:21:44,933 How to mesmerize them. 434 00:21:44,933 --> 00:21:52,167 [ shouting in german ] 435 00:21:52,167 --> 00:21:54,267 When we look At the newsreel footage, 436 00:21:54,267 --> 00:21:57,400 Of hitler at one Of the great rallies, 437 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,233 You see how he uses his body. 438 00:21:59,233 --> 00:22:01,367 You hear how he, Even if you don't know german, 439 00:22:01,367 --> 00:22:03,667 You hear how he uses His voice for emphasis. 440 00:22:03,667 --> 00:22:05,833 You see the broad gestures, 441 00:22:05,833 --> 00:22:12,067 The sense of drama that can Carry through an immense space. 442 00:22:12,067 --> 00:22:16,500 And one has to think that that Did not just happen by accident. 443 00:22:16,500 --> 00:22:20,100 [ shouting in german ] 444 00:22:20,100 --> 00:22:23,867 [ cheering ] 445 00:22:23,867 --> 00:22:26,067 Dr. Bellinger: The interesting thing, Eric yon henderson 446 00:22:26,067 --> 00:22:29,067 Was not the danish person He claimed to be. 447 00:22:29,067 --> 00:22:31,967 He was in fact jewish And he was playing with fire. 448 00:22:31,967 --> 00:22:33,833 One would have thought He would have known better. 449 00:22:33,833 --> 00:22:36,300 Gough: The fact that yon henderson Was found murdered 450 00:22:36,300 --> 00:22:39,300 With a bullet Through the back and the head, 451 00:22:39,300 --> 00:22:41,767 Is probably due To several things. 452 00:22:41,767 --> 00:22:44,967 One, the discovery That he was jewish. 453 00:22:44,967 --> 00:22:49,300 Two, he was so wealthy That prominent players 454 00:22:49,300 --> 00:22:52,700 In the nazi party, Owed him a lot of money. 455 00:22:52,700 --> 00:22:58,500 And also he had perhaps become Too influential with hitler. 456 00:22:58,500 --> 00:23:02,100 So there would have been This issue of jealousy. 457 00:23:02,100 --> 00:23:03,700 So there were many motives 458 00:23:03,700 --> 00:23:06,767 Why the nazis would want To have him murdered. 459 00:23:08,833 --> 00:23:11,700 Narrator: In 1939, war broke out, 460 00:23:11,700 --> 00:23:14,167 But the nazis weren't Just using bullets and bombs 461 00:23:14,167 --> 00:23:15,533 Against the allies. 462 00:23:15,533 --> 00:23:18,867 They also enlisted the power Of dark forces. 463 00:23:21,067 --> 00:23:28,667 * 464 00:23:28,667 --> 00:23:32,067 Narrator: in 1939, War finally broke out 465 00:23:32,067 --> 00:23:34,067 And the nazis forces Of darkness, 466 00:23:34,067 --> 00:23:37,333 Fueled by the twisted Occult ideology of arianism, 467 00:23:37,333 --> 00:23:38,633 Invaded europe. 468 00:23:38,633 --> 00:23:41,467 Missiles were launched, And bombs dropped. 469 00:23:41,467 --> 00:23:44,567 But in hidden bunkers, A much more sinister force 470 00:23:44,567 --> 00:23:47,633 Was being put to work -- Witchcraft. 471 00:23:47,633 --> 00:23:50,500 Felix: the difference between The allies and the germans, 472 00:23:50,500 --> 00:23:54,100 The nazis, Was that we were using radar 473 00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:56,533 To find their submarines And their planes. 474 00:23:56,533 --> 00:23:59,067 They were using dowsing Pendulums, 475 00:23:59,067 --> 00:24:02,600 That's a piece of string with A bit of brass on the end of it, 476 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,067 Or some quartz crystal. 477 00:24:04,067 --> 00:24:09,300 They were dangling it over a map And looking for our submarines. 478 00:24:09,300 --> 00:24:13,367 Dr. Selwood: Hitler even brought these faddy Beliefs into battle planning. 479 00:24:13,367 --> 00:24:15,700 Instead of using intelligence And spotter planes 480 00:24:15,700 --> 00:24:17,067 And all the normal things, 481 00:24:17,067 --> 00:24:19,967 Hitler had teams of dowsers And bizarrely, 482 00:24:19,967 --> 00:24:22,167 It actually seems to have been Successful on more occasions 483 00:24:22,167 --> 00:24:23,900 Than you would imagine. 484 00:24:23,900 --> 00:24:25,867 Gough: The nazis were so impressed, 485 00:24:25,867 --> 00:24:30,067 It inspired them to take The occult far more serious 486 00:24:30,067 --> 00:24:34,100 And really put a lot of money Into that division of the ss. 487 00:24:34,100 --> 00:24:36,600 So they created This organization 488 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,767 Called the institute For occult warfare. 489 00:24:39,767 --> 00:24:44,167 Full of mediums and psychics Who are using all these strange 490 00:24:44,167 --> 00:24:48,533 Occult powers To fend off the west. 491 00:24:48,533 --> 00:24:50,800 Mcmahon: In the last desperate stages Of the war, 492 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,767 The nazis even released Thousands of astrologers 493 00:24:55,767 --> 00:24:59,233 And magicians and dowsers From concentration camps, 494 00:24:59,233 --> 00:25:02,067 Trying to help hitler Win the war. 495 00:25:02,067 --> 00:25:07,767 * 496 00:25:07,767 --> 00:25:10,800 Narrator: As the nazi forces of darkness Ravaged europe, 497 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,967 Hitler had his sights Set on england. 498 00:25:12,967 --> 00:25:15,700 The luftwaffe dropped Thousands of bombs. 499 00:25:15,700 --> 00:25:19,600 Children were evacuated and fear And chaos shrouded britain 500 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,800 Like a great dark cloud. 501 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,433 But beneath the surface, an Occult war was being waged too. 502 00:25:26,433 --> 00:25:27,800 Gough: it's fascinating When you realize 503 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,333 That there was this secret Occult war going on 504 00:25:31,333 --> 00:25:33,533 And it didn't take long For the allies 505 00:25:33,533 --> 00:25:39,400 To realize that the germans Were using magic, map dowsing, 506 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,567 And with great accuracy, Finding their ships. 507 00:25:42,567 --> 00:25:44,067 So what did they do? 508 00:25:44,067 --> 00:25:47,900 They had to retaliate with some Occult magic of their own. 509 00:25:47,900 --> 00:25:50,667 So they are alleged To have enlisted 510 00:25:50,667 --> 00:25:53,600 The most famous occultist In britain, 511 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:58,867 Alistair crowley who is said To have helped churchill 512 00:25:58,867 --> 00:26:02,667 By giving him the v For victory symbol. 513 00:26:02,667 --> 00:26:05,533 As far as I know, British intelligence 514 00:26:05,533 --> 00:26:09,833 did recruit alistair crowley To help them in the same way 515 00:26:09,833 --> 00:26:12,100 As the germans Were doing against us. 516 00:26:12,100 --> 00:26:16,800 It was alistair crowley's idea To combat the nordic runes 517 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,067 That the germans were using, 518 00:26:18,067 --> 00:26:20,767 They came up with the victory V sign to sort of, 519 00:26:20,767 --> 00:26:23,467 For want of a better word, Point at the germans, 520 00:26:23,467 --> 00:26:28,067 When they were pointing Their runic devices at us. 521 00:26:28,067 --> 00:26:30,067 Narrator: but it wasn't just British intelligence 522 00:26:30,067 --> 00:26:31,667 Who began using magic. 523 00:26:31,667 --> 00:26:33,567 In the forests Of southern england, 524 00:26:33,567 --> 00:26:36,567 A coven of witches took it Upon themselves to gather 525 00:26:36,567 --> 00:26:40,067 And perform a ritual called The cone of power, 526 00:26:40,067 --> 00:26:43,100 In an attempt to stop The imminent nazi invasion. 527 00:26:43,100 --> 00:26:45,167 Picknett: Operation -- cone of power, 528 00:26:45,167 --> 00:26:49,533 Was basically a bunch of Modern witches 529 00:26:49,533 --> 00:26:51,300 Getting together In the new forest, 530 00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:53,933 Under the guidance Of gerald gardner 531 00:26:53,933 --> 00:26:56,367 Who more or less created Modern wicca, 532 00:26:56,367 --> 00:27:03,067 To do a ritual to prevent The nazis from invading britain. 533 00:27:03,067 --> 00:27:05,700 Narrator: Philip heselton is part of that Ancient order 534 00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:07,967 Of witches or wicca. 535 00:27:07,967 --> 00:27:10,600 He has spent decades researching What happened 536 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,133 On the night Of the cone of power. 537 00:27:13,133 --> 00:27:19,667 Heselton: We don't know how or where, This ritual took place. 538 00:27:19,667 --> 00:27:24,733 Gerald said "We were taken at Night to a place in the forest." 539 00:27:24,733 --> 00:27:28,267 It would be in the forest, It wouldn't be any open air. 540 00:27:28,267 --> 00:27:33,900 It would be however, a clearing, Something like this, I reckon. 541 00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:38,567 So that they had enough space to Do what was a really big ritual. 542 00:27:42,767 --> 00:27:46,833 Apparently, they had 17 people And they held hands. 543 00:27:46,833 --> 00:27:50,933 Rushing forward And at the same time, 544 00:27:50,933 --> 00:27:56,167 Giving the wording Which was something like, 545 00:27:56,167 --> 00:27:59,433 You cannot cross the sea, Not able to come, 546 00:27:59,433 --> 00:28:02,300 Not able to come, You cannot cross the sea. 547 00:28:02,300 --> 00:28:05,100 And they repeated that. 548 00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:08,533 And it wasn't just words, It was the mind power 549 00:28:08,533 --> 00:28:13,867 Was concentrated And working together 550 00:28:13,867 --> 00:28:16,633 And they created this, 551 00:28:16,633 --> 00:28:18,567 What they called A cone of power. 552 00:28:18,567 --> 00:28:21,700 It wasn't physical, You couldn't see it. 553 00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:24,567 But it was there On the psychic level 554 00:28:24,567 --> 00:28:26,967 And was sent over specifically, 555 00:28:26,967 --> 00:28:34,433 To the german high command, To change their thinking. 556 00:28:34,433 --> 00:28:38,200 Of course the human mind is One of the most flexible things. 557 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,900 It's one of the things that's Easier to work magic with. 558 00:28:44,967 --> 00:28:48,067 Narrator: janet farrar is a Wiccan high priestess 559 00:28:48,067 --> 00:28:50,067 And is one of the world's Leading experts 560 00:28:50,067 --> 00:28:52,333 And teachers of witchcraft. 561 00:28:52,333 --> 00:28:57,167 Janet has performed the cone Of power ritual multiple times. 562 00:28:57,167 --> 00:28:59,367 Farrar: ritual is a drama. 563 00:28:59,367 --> 00:29:03,067 Now witchcraft is not just About ritual. 564 00:29:03,067 --> 00:29:05,933 It's about the equivalent I suppose, 565 00:29:05,933 --> 00:29:07,800 Of in christian terms, prayer. 566 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,633 That's what magic is. 567 00:29:09,633 --> 00:29:11,667 It's when you transport Your mind 568 00:29:11,667 --> 00:29:12,933 To a place where you say 569 00:29:12,933 --> 00:29:16,900 "I know this can be made To happen." 570 00:29:16,900 --> 00:29:19,967 When you perform the dance Of the cone of power, 571 00:29:19,967 --> 00:29:21,767 It feels as if you're floating, 572 00:29:21,767 --> 00:29:24,567 As if you're about six inches Off the ground. 573 00:29:24,567 --> 00:29:28,800 And there's a sensation that, 574 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,333 No matter How fast you're dancing, 575 00:29:31,333 --> 00:29:33,967 That you're Moving twice as fast. 576 00:29:33,967 --> 00:29:37,600 And sometimes you get the very Strange effect, 577 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,633 Time stands completely still. 578 00:29:42,067 --> 00:29:44,767 And it's as if that cone Of power stops time. 579 00:29:44,767 --> 00:29:47,300 You feel totally elated from it, 580 00:29:47,300 --> 00:29:49,200 Totally in harmony With the universe, 581 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,700 Totally elated inside yourself And of course 582 00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:55,700 This is what would have happened To the coven in the new forest. 583 00:29:55,700 --> 00:29:57,267 They would have achieved What they wanted. 584 00:29:57,267 --> 00:29:58,733 They'd have gone home That night, 585 00:29:58,733 --> 00:30:01,100 Probably made some hot chocolate And gone to bed. 586 00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:03,167 Forgotten all about it, Don't talk about it, 587 00:30:03,167 --> 00:30:06,133 Don't discuss it Amongst ourselves, it's done. 588 00:30:06,133 --> 00:30:07,867 It's the full stop. 589 00:30:07,867 --> 00:30:11,233 It's the telegram That's been sent. 590 00:30:11,233 --> 00:30:15,067 Narrator: With the allies now fighting Back using magic, in germany, 591 00:30:15,067 --> 00:30:17,333 Himmler had even grander plans. 592 00:30:17,333 --> 00:30:19,800 To build a giant nazi fortress, 593 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,167 Based on the mythological King arthur's camelot. 594 00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:34,800 * 595 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,767 Narrator: In the midst of world war ii, 596 00:30:36,767 --> 00:30:39,100 A secret occult war Was being waged 597 00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:42,633 Between the ruthless nazis And the allies. 598 00:30:42,633 --> 00:30:44,833 Mcmahon: british intelligence Was aware of hitler 599 00:30:44,833 --> 00:30:47,833 And himmler's rather Dark obsession with the occult. 600 00:30:47,833 --> 00:30:51,900 So much so, that they tried to Use the occult against the nazis 601 00:30:51,900 --> 00:30:55,533 And one of the things they did Was creating a fake magazine, 602 00:30:55,533 --> 00:30:58,067 German occult magazine Called zenit 603 00:30:58,067 --> 00:31:00,433 Which was circulated Within germany, 604 00:31:00,433 --> 00:31:02,667 With dark Astrological predictions 605 00:31:02,667 --> 00:31:04,500 Against hitler and himmler. 606 00:31:04,500 --> 00:31:08,333 And suggestions framed In an astrological kind of way, 607 00:31:08,333 --> 00:31:12,200 That germany was bound To lose the war. 608 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,133 Narrator: With the allies now attempting To dispel the nazis using magic, 609 00:31:16,133 --> 00:31:18,733 Heinrich himmler, Hitler's right hand man, 610 00:31:18,733 --> 00:31:21,600 Was stepping things up Back in germany. 611 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,500 Eric kurlander is an academic And historian, 612 00:31:24,500 --> 00:31:27,333 Who has spent years Researching nazi occultism 613 00:31:27,333 --> 00:31:30,567 And he believes that Wewelsburg castle is the key 614 00:31:30,567 --> 00:31:33,833 To understanding himmler's Bizarre chivalric beliefs 615 00:31:33,833 --> 00:31:36,633 Connected to the mythological King arthur. 616 00:31:36,633 --> 00:31:38,900 Kurlander: So, we're on our way to a castle 617 00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:41,100 Known as the wewelsburg And himmler, 618 00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:44,067 When he saw the castle For the first time, 619 00:31:44,067 --> 00:31:46,667 And he consulted With other ss leaders 620 00:31:46,667 --> 00:31:50,133 About whether this would be The right place to create 621 00:31:50,133 --> 00:31:51,867 An order castle for the ss, 622 00:31:51,867 --> 00:31:56,833 A place for ss education, Ss indoctrination 623 00:31:56,833 --> 00:32:01,433 And eventually almost a kind Of religious center for the ss. 624 00:32:01,433 --> 00:32:04,200 Dr. Selwood: The ultimate statement Of himmler's occult, 625 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,067 Chivalric beliefs, Was wewelsburg castle. 626 00:32:08,067 --> 00:32:09,667 He purchased this And wanted to turn it 627 00:32:09,667 --> 00:32:12,067 Into the cult center of the ss. 628 00:32:12,067 --> 00:32:14,367 There was a room in the basement With places for 629 00:32:14,367 --> 00:32:17,300 The 12 knights of the ss who all Had death's head rings. 630 00:32:17,300 --> 00:32:20,533 There were rooms above With solar suns on the floor, 631 00:32:20,533 --> 00:32:24,633 Black suns for occult ceremonies And ss weddings. 632 00:32:24,633 --> 00:32:28,800 It was to be the tip of a spear, The top of a cosmic spirit 633 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:32,933 That would be the spiritual Center of the ss cult. 634 00:32:32,933 --> 00:32:36,733 Wewelsburg was the heart Of himmler's vision of the ss. 635 00:32:36,733 --> 00:32:41,967 * 636 00:32:41,967 --> 00:32:44,533 Narrator: kirsten john-stucke Is the museum curator 637 00:32:44,533 --> 00:32:48,133 At wewelsburg castle, An expert on it's dark history. 638 00:33:32,267 --> 00:33:34,667 Kurlander: right. 639 00:33:34,667 --> 00:33:36,933 Himmler wanted his castle At wewelsburg 640 00:33:36,933 --> 00:33:39,767 To be a kind of nazi camelot 641 00:33:39,767 --> 00:33:42,067 And that was hugely significant For him 642 00:33:42,067 --> 00:33:45,500 Because he revered The arthurian knights 643 00:33:45,500 --> 00:33:49,167 And also the german Legendary knight, parcival, 644 00:33:49,167 --> 00:33:52,533 As people who had been on The quest for the holy grail. 645 00:33:52,533 --> 00:33:55,300 And he was obsessed with finding The holy grail as well because, 646 00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:59,367 He thought that the grail, It wasn't about jesus so much, 647 00:33:59,367 --> 00:34:02,600 As finding a key To the underlying truth 648 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,567 About the aryan race. 649 00:34:04,567 --> 00:34:09,733 Himmler was fascinated By fairy tales of king arthur, 650 00:34:09,733 --> 00:34:11,367 The holy grail. 651 00:34:11,367 --> 00:34:16,500 He was also into knights Templars and stuff like that. 652 00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:18,667 He was fascinated By the number 12 653 00:34:18,667 --> 00:34:22,633 And he had 12 ss officers Who used to, 654 00:34:22,633 --> 00:34:25,267 I suppose for want of A better word, attend, 655 00:34:25,267 --> 00:34:26,933 Stand round the table, 656 00:34:26,933 --> 00:34:30,667 Representing the 12 knights Of king arthur. 657 00:34:33,500 --> 00:34:35,467 Narrator: in the north tower Of the castle, 658 00:34:35,467 --> 00:34:37,933 Is a very strange room indeed. 659 00:34:37,933 --> 00:34:40,200 Originally A christian prayer space, 660 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,267 Himmler had it redesigned With 12 pillars 661 00:34:43,267 --> 00:34:47,967 Representing the 12 knights And mysterious black sun symbol. 662 00:34:47,967 --> 00:34:49,967 Kurlander: But if we look at the plans For this room, 663 00:34:49,967 --> 00:34:52,167 They took a sacred space 664 00:34:52,167 --> 00:34:54,667 From the christian tradition Of this building 665 00:34:54,667 --> 00:34:57,800 And they mapped onto it A more pagan religious, 666 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,400 Germanic pre-christian Symbology. 667 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,067 And that's characterized best, By this sun wheel. 668 00:35:05,067 --> 00:35:10,200 Zone and rod with the 12 Different sig runes. 669 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,667 Walters: The point about wewelsburg, 670 00:35:11,667 --> 00:35:15,433 It's himmler's effort to try And create a camelot. 671 00:35:15,433 --> 00:35:18,700 You know, if himmler is arthur, Wewelsburg is camelot. 672 00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:21,200 This is where his high order Of knights, 673 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,200 The ss, will have as Their quazi-spiritual home. 674 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,400 And it's from there that every Ss man's ring, when he's killed, 675 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,133 Will be sent back To be held in eternity. 676 00:35:32,133 --> 00:35:38,533 These are kind of religious, Cultist concepts 677 00:35:38,533 --> 00:35:41,367 And wewelsburg Was the perfect place for that. 678 00:35:41,367 --> 00:35:45,733 Gough: Wewelsburg is a creepy place Today, it really is. 679 00:35:45,733 --> 00:35:47,300 You walk into the north tower 680 00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:52,933 And you feel like you're walking Into an evil, ritual center 681 00:35:52,933 --> 00:35:57,067 Where gosh only knows What rituals were performed, 682 00:35:57,067 --> 00:35:59,500 But you have swastikas Everywhere. 683 00:35:59,500 --> 00:36:01,700 You have eagles, You have a black sun, 684 00:36:01,700 --> 00:36:04,733 You have fire marks On the walls. 685 00:36:04,733 --> 00:36:08,667 It really feels like something Bad had happened here 686 00:36:08,667 --> 00:36:11,633 And it's imbued it With that sort of energy. 687 00:36:11,633 --> 00:36:18,800 * 688 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,300 Kurlander: So if we think about himmler's Personal journey, 689 00:36:21,300 --> 00:36:25,067 We have everything That himmler aspired to, 690 00:36:25,067 --> 00:36:27,233 Coming together in this site. 691 00:36:27,233 --> 00:36:31,067 The center of his entire empire, Where he hoped after the war, 692 00:36:31,067 --> 00:36:33,433 To become kind of the second In command, 693 00:36:33,433 --> 00:36:36,633 The second most important Leader of this third reich, 694 00:36:36,633 --> 00:36:39,800 Next to hitler, His right hand man. 695 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,233 So it's fitting that we conclude Our journey at the wewelsburg, 696 00:36:44,233 --> 00:36:46,200 Because the wewelsburg Brings together 697 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:47,867 All three of the strains That kind of 698 00:36:47,867 --> 00:36:50,300 Made up himmler's Supernatural imaginary. 699 00:36:52,467 --> 00:36:54,967 Narrator: with the nazis Now mercilessly bombarding 700 00:36:54,967 --> 00:36:57,433 The allies With bullets and sorcery, 701 00:36:57,433 --> 00:37:01,367 Hitler was about to let his Belief in the occult go too far. 702 00:37:03,567 --> 00:37:14,667 * 703 00:37:14,667 --> 00:37:18,067 Narrator: The nazis' ideology of racial Discrimination and hate 704 00:37:18,067 --> 00:37:22,067 Was built on twisted Pagan mythology and black magic. 705 00:37:22,067 --> 00:37:26,700 Dr. Selwood: On one level, all this nazi Occult activity is deeply silly 706 00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:27,933 And a great distraction, 707 00:37:27,933 --> 00:37:30,167 But on another actually, It's deathly serious, 708 00:37:30,167 --> 00:37:33,133 Because this sense Of superiority, 709 00:37:33,133 --> 00:37:35,433 This sense of being descended From a greater race, 710 00:37:35,433 --> 00:37:36,733 A different race, A race apart, 711 00:37:36,733 --> 00:37:38,533 They thought they came From divine sperm, 712 00:37:38,533 --> 00:37:40,800 Not from the apes Like everybody else. 713 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:44,333 This actually created a mind set That was capable of the horrors 714 00:37:44,333 --> 00:37:46,633 Of the second world war And ultimately, 715 00:37:46,633 --> 00:37:49,933 Their own defeat by taking on Far more than they could manage. 716 00:37:49,933 --> 00:37:55,067 * 717 00:37:55,067 --> 00:37:59,333 Narrator: And hitler's faith in the occult Was about to seal his fate. 718 00:37:59,333 --> 00:38:02,367 Mcmahon: himmler's obsession With the occult 719 00:38:02,367 --> 00:38:04,533 Had an appalling consequence 720 00:38:04,533 --> 00:38:06,200 When it came to the battle Of stalingrad, 721 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,900 Because apparently, He told hitler that it would be 722 00:38:09,900 --> 00:38:15,467 Okay having the german soldiers Marching into the russian winter 723 00:38:15,467 --> 00:38:19,867 Because aryans could withstand Cold better than non-aryans. 724 00:38:19,867 --> 00:38:22,567 Well that proved to be Entirely false. 725 00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:26,767 Janulis: So despite being fantastic Strategists, 726 00:38:26,767 --> 00:38:30,533 Engineers, Military organizers, 727 00:38:30,533 --> 00:38:34,433 They still had some really Interesting ways 728 00:38:34,433 --> 00:38:35,933 Of approaching decision Making. 729 00:38:35,933 --> 00:38:39,067 And one of them was that They were using occult 730 00:38:39,067 --> 00:38:40,667 Sort of processes 731 00:38:40,667 --> 00:38:45,167 And they believed That they could invade russia 732 00:38:45,167 --> 00:38:47,467 And succeed Where napoleon failed, 733 00:38:47,467 --> 00:38:51,933 Because their ancestry dated Back to the hyperborean culture, 734 00:38:51,933 --> 00:38:54,700 The northern climate, Fierce people. 735 00:38:54,700 --> 00:38:57,433 And they thought that even If they ended up 736 00:38:57,433 --> 00:39:00,233 Stuck in russian winter, They were tough enough. 737 00:39:00,233 --> 00:39:02,533 They had the genetic background. 738 00:39:02,533 --> 00:39:06,067 They could deal with it. 739 00:39:06,067 --> 00:39:09,567 If the nazis had stopped all This nonsense with astronomy, 740 00:39:09,567 --> 00:39:12,700 Astrologers, Dowsing, tarot cards, 741 00:39:12,700 --> 00:39:13,933 If they'd stopped all that 742 00:39:13,933 --> 00:39:15,967 And got on With the war properly, 743 00:39:15,967 --> 00:39:17,800 I think they'd probably Have beaten us. 744 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:29,700 * 745 00:39:29,700 --> 00:39:32,867 Narrator: in 1945, Hitler committed suicide 746 00:39:32,867 --> 00:39:34,900 And nazi germany surrendered. 747 00:39:34,900 --> 00:39:37,267 Millions had been killed And world war two 748 00:39:37,267 --> 00:39:39,800 Would cast A dark shadow forever 749 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,233 But what went wrong For the nazis? 750 00:39:42,233 --> 00:39:44,800 How did they get so close To world domination 751 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,667 Only to fall So spectacularly? 752 00:39:47,667 --> 00:39:49,733 Picknett: Certainly not every last nazi 753 00:39:49,733 --> 00:39:51,567 Was into what we would call, The occult. 754 00:39:51,567 --> 00:39:54,067 In fact very, Very few of them ever were. 755 00:39:54,067 --> 00:39:59,367 And even heinrich himmler who Was the great nazi "Occultist" 756 00:39:59,367 --> 00:40:00,900 Was more really of a, 757 00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:02,800 What we would think of, As a new ager. 758 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,067 More mystically inclined Than, you know, 759 00:40:06,067 --> 00:40:08,067 Casting dark spells, Although of course, 760 00:40:08,067 --> 00:40:10,067 He was a nazi, He didn't have to. 761 00:40:10,067 --> 00:40:12,833 Dr. Selwood: They were desperately Dark sides to this 762 00:40:12,833 --> 00:40:14,867 Occult obsession as well. 763 00:40:14,867 --> 00:40:17,167 The planning and execution Of the final solution 764 00:40:17,167 --> 00:40:20,167 Was left to the ss And there's no doubt 765 00:40:20,167 --> 00:40:24,467 That this was one of the most Horrific acts in modern history, 766 00:40:24,467 --> 00:40:26,933 Was carried out by people Who believed 767 00:40:26,933 --> 00:40:28,933 That they were Superior to others. 768 00:40:28,933 --> 00:40:32,067 And those occult beliefs had A strong component 769 00:40:32,067 --> 00:40:34,500 In creating That vision of the ss 770 00:40:34,500 --> 00:40:38,233 As people who were capable of, And entitled to do this. 771 00:40:39,633 --> 00:40:41,100 Walters: the nazi obsession With the occult 772 00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:45,000 Is one of the reasons Ultimately why project hitler, 773 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,967 Or project third reich, If you like, 774 00:40:46,967 --> 00:40:49,433 Was going to be doomed. Why? 775 00:40:49,433 --> 00:40:53,500 Because they kind of saw This idea of a story 776 00:40:53,500 --> 00:40:55,267 Before it even took place. 777 00:40:55,267 --> 00:40:57,167 So they had this idea that There's a narrative 778 00:40:57,167 --> 00:40:59,067 That we're going to last For a thousand years 779 00:40:59,067 --> 00:41:01,067 And we're going to build These enormous buildings 780 00:41:01,067 --> 00:41:02,867 And leave behind All these runes, 781 00:41:02,867 --> 00:41:05,567 And this temple Called wewelsburg, effectively. 782 00:41:05,567 --> 00:41:06,867 Therefore, you know, We are going to be 783 00:41:06,867 --> 00:41:11,067 This new kind of culture And civilization 784 00:41:11,067 --> 00:41:13,500 That has it's own religion And mysticism. 785 00:41:13,500 --> 00:41:15,100 So what you're doing is you're Creating a narrative 786 00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:17,333 For yourself that's going to Go on for a thousand years. 787 00:41:17,333 --> 00:41:18,700 And what does that give you? 788 00:41:18,700 --> 00:41:21,767 That gives you an enormous sense Of arrogance and hubris. 789 00:41:21,767 --> 00:41:23,200 It makes you think That genuinely you 790 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,067 Are going to last for that long And actually instead, 791 00:41:26,067 --> 00:41:27,700 It doesn't Really work out like that. 792 00:41:27,700 --> 00:41:30,300 It goes from 1933 to 1945, 793 00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:32,333 You know, And it ends with a big bang. 794 00:41:32,333 --> 00:41:37,467 * 795 00:41:37,467 --> 00:41:39,067 Farrar: magic is neither Black nor white. 796 00:41:39,067 --> 00:41:40,733 It's like electricity. 797 00:41:40,733 --> 00:41:44,567 You can plug in something So useful or an electric chair. 798 00:41:44,567 --> 00:41:47,833 The energy of the universe Is neutral. 799 00:41:47,833 --> 00:41:50,900 People who misuse it, Such as the nazis, 800 00:41:50,900 --> 00:41:55,067 And, yes, that's black magic, Ended up destroying themselves. 801 00:41:55,067 --> 00:41:58,333 From the moment they put The finger in the socket, 802 00:41:58,333 --> 00:42:01,733 It was the electric chair, All the way down the line. 66374

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