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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:35,774 --> 00:00:38,342 So, Grant, you told me Silviya just 2 00:00:38,429 --> 00:00:40,344 recently wrote you a letter? 3 00:00:40,431 --> 00:00:41,432 Right. 4 00:00:41,519 --> 00:00:42,868 I'm surprised. 5 00:00:42,955 --> 00:00:44,914 Did Silviya really reach out to you? 6 00:00:48,048 --> 00:00:53,705 You know, yes, Silvie did reach out to me. 7 00:00:53,792 --> 00:00:55,751 Do you think she's happy? 8 00:00:55,838 --> 00:00:59,450 Yeah, I think Silvie is happy with how her life is. 9 00:01:17,599 --> 00:01:20,167 My life was easy. 10 00:01:20,254 --> 00:01:22,212 He was obsessed with her. 11 00:01:22,299 --> 00:01:23,996 It's a heinous crime. 12 00:01:24,084 --> 00:01:26,434 I didn't do any of this. 13 00:02:34,328 --> 00:02:36,243 Jurors are hearing closing arguments, 14 00:02:36,330 --> 00:02:38,854 and they will soon have to recommend 15 00:02:38,941 --> 00:02:41,248 if Grant Amato will face the death penalty 16 00:02:41,335 --> 00:02:42,727 or die in prison. 17 00:02:42,814 --> 00:02:44,642 They've been deliberating for much of the afternoon 18 00:02:44,729 --> 00:02:45,861 on into the evening. 19 00:02:45,948 --> 00:02:47,863 And a judge says that they will allow 20 00:02:47,950 --> 00:02:50,561 them to continue to deliberate for as long as they need to. 21 00:02:57,220 --> 00:02:59,831 I was expecting the jury to deliberate a little bit 22 00:02:59,918 --> 00:03:01,268 longer than they had. 23 00:03:01,355 --> 00:03:03,574 They broke one afternoon. 24 00:03:03,661 --> 00:03:08,579 And then that evening they came back with a verdict. 25 00:03:08,666 --> 00:03:11,452 I'm told that the jury has reached a verdict. 26 00:03:11,539 --> 00:03:14,324 Could you please hand it to the deputy? 27 00:03:14,411 --> 00:03:17,109 The courtroom was very emotional in the moments 28 00:03:17,197 --> 00:03:18,807 before the verdict was read. 29 00:03:18,894 --> 00:03:22,593 On one side, you had surviving members of the Amatos. 30 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:27,163 And it really seemed like they didn't know what could happen. 31 00:03:27,250 --> 00:03:31,385 The prosecution provided a decently compelling case. 32 00:03:31,472 --> 00:03:34,170 But Grant's defense did a very excellent 33 00:03:34,257 --> 00:03:37,042 job at defending their client. 34 00:03:37,129 --> 00:03:39,915 So, at that moment, it was sort of a mystery of what would 35 00:03:40,002 --> 00:03:41,351 be read in that courtroom. 36 00:03:41,438 --> 00:03:44,615 It's a heinous crime. 37 00:03:44,702 --> 00:03:47,052 But my number-one focus is always to make sure 38 00:03:47,139 --> 00:03:49,620 that I save my client's life. 39 00:03:58,368 --> 00:04:00,762 Mr. Amato, if you could please stand. 40 00:04:09,118 --> 00:04:11,251 "We the jury unanimously find 41 00:04:11,338 --> 00:04:13,862 "that the state has established beyond a reasonable doubt 42 00:04:13,949 --> 00:04:15,298 "that the first-degree murder 43 00:04:15,385 --> 00:04:17,648 "was committed in a cold, calculated, and 44 00:04:17,735 --> 00:04:19,911 "premeditated manner. 45 00:04:19,998 --> 00:04:21,957 "Yes. 46 00:04:22,044 --> 00:04:25,221 "We the jury unanimously find that Grant Amato 47 00:04:25,308 --> 00:04:26,788 "should be sentenced to death. 48 00:04:26,875 --> 00:04:29,312 No." 49 00:04:29,399 --> 00:04:33,838 Based upon this case, 2019 CF 337 CFA, 50 00:04:33,925 --> 00:04:35,840 the State of Florida versus Grant Amato, 51 00:04:35,927 --> 00:04:39,061 you've been found guilty for killing your mother, 52 00:04:39,148 --> 00:04:41,106 your father, and your brother. 53 00:04:41,193 --> 00:04:43,457 I would sentence you to life imprisonment 54 00:04:43,544 --> 00:04:46,416 without any possibility of parole. 55 00:04:46,503 --> 00:04:50,028 And otherwise, sir, just God have mercy on your soul. 56 00:04:50,115 --> 00:04:52,292 Nothing further at this point. 57 00:04:56,513 --> 00:04:59,516 I didn't really see any emotion on Grant's face 58 00:04:59,603 --> 00:05:01,518 when that verdict was read. 59 00:05:01,605 --> 00:05:05,435 From his family, it seemed like there was a sigh of relief. 60 00:05:05,522 --> 00:05:07,698 Did you ever entertain the possibility 61 00:05:07,785 --> 00:05:09,091 that Grant was innocent? 62 00:05:09,178 --> 00:05:10,614 Completely innocent? 63 00:05:10,701 --> 00:05:13,051 Not seriously. 64 00:05:13,138 --> 00:05:16,228 If not Grant, who? 65 00:05:16,316 --> 00:05:18,100 I'm at peace with it. 66 00:05:18,187 --> 00:05:21,103 you know, we did our best. We saved his life. 67 00:05:21,190 --> 00:05:22,365 In my heart, I didn't believe 68 00:05:22,452 --> 00:05:24,672 he was going to get away with this. 69 00:05:24,759 --> 00:05:27,022 We had enough circumstantial evidence placing 70 00:05:27,109 --> 00:05:28,240 him at the crime scene-- 71 00:05:28,328 --> 00:05:31,940 his digital footprint, his motive. 72 00:05:32,027 --> 00:05:35,552 It wasn't, like, devastating when they came back guilty, 73 00:05:35,639 --> 00:05:38,338 but I will say there are so many aspects of the case 74 00:05:38,425 --> 00:05:40,209 that are unexplainable. 75 00:05:40,296 --> 00:05:42,385 The blow-by-blow of what occurred, 76 00:05:42,472 --> 00:05:45,388 that picture has still never been painted for me. 77 00:05:45,475 --> 00:05:47,477 And I don't know that it's knowable. 78 00:05:47,564 --> 00:05:50,350 And it's fascinating that it's not knowable. 79 00:06:27,212 --> 00:06:28,257 Hello, true crimers. 80 00:06:28,344 --> 00:06:30,302 Hi, guys. How are you today? 81 00:06:30,390 --> 00:06:32,043 My name is Bailey Sarian. 82 00:06:32,130 --> 00:06:35,264 And today is Murder, Mystery, and Makeup Monday. 83 00:06:35,351 --> 00:06:36,570 You're not going to believe this shit. 84 00:06:36,657 --> 00:06:38,485 OK, this one looks good. 85 00:06:38,572 --> 00:06:41,183 29-year-old Grant Amato had lost his job, 86 00:06:41,270 --> 00:06:43,185 gotten kicked out of school, and was living 87 00:06:43,272 --> 00:06:44,926 at home with his parents. 88 00:06:45,013 --> 00:06:47,450 This is precisely how every bad story starts, OK? 89 00:06:48,799 --> 00:06:50,366 He was spending all of his time 90 00:06:50,453 --> 00:06:52,542 on a live streaming porn site called Cam Girls, 91 00:06:52,629 --> 00:06:54,936 communicating with a Bulgarian woman who he would claim 92 00:06:55,023 --> 00:06:55,937 was his girlfriend. 93 00:06:56,024 --> 00:06:57,329 You idiot! 94 00:06:57,417 --> 00:06:58,983 I think he thought he loved her. 95 00:06:59,070 --> 00:07:01,943 So it turns into sort of a twisted Shakespeare play. 96 00:07:02,030 --> 00:07:04,380 And in Grant's mind, Silviya is still his wife. 97 00:07:04,467 --> 00:07:06,687 Are you fuckin' kidding me, dude? 98 00:07:06,774 --> 00:07:09,690 This is, like, what happens if Twitch streamers go wrong. 99 00:07:09,777 --> 00:07:13,389 On January 25, 2019, police discovered the bodies of Chad, 100 00:07:13,476 --> 00:07:14,956 Margaret, and Cody Amato. 101 00:07:15,043 --> 00:07:16,958 Each of them were shot execution-style 102 00:07:17,045 --> 00:07:18,394 inside their home. 103 00:07:18,481 --> 00:07:20,527 What the fuck, dude? 104 00:07:33,148 --> 00:07:34,323 Sound pretty popular, Grant. 105 00:07:34,410 --> 00:07:36,194 Yep, that's me. 106 00:07:43,724 --> 00:07:45,421 I really do hope you get help. 107 00:07:45,508 --> 00:07:47,336 Seems like you have serious issues. 108 00:07:47,423 --> 00:07:49,643 Grant, you need to get out of your fantasy world. 109 00:08:49,137 --> 00:08:53,924 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the greatest show on Earth. 110 00:09:24,781 --> 00:09:26,827 Hello, true crimers. 111 00:09:26,914 --> 00:09:30,787 This is the case of Grant Amato. 112 00:09:30,874 --> 00:09:33,485 Grant Amato was one of three sons 113 00:09:33,573 --> 00:09:34,922 of Chad and Margaret Amato. 114 00:09:35,009 --> 00:09:37,141 Chad. 115 00:09:37,228 --> 00:09:39,317 Everything was in its place, straight and tucked in. 116 00:09:39,404 --> 00:09:42,494 I first learned about Grant from watching a lot 117 00:09:42,582 --> 00:09:44,671 of true crime YouTube videos. 118 00:09:44,758 --> 00:09:46,890 Grant Amato loved anime. 119 00:09:46,977 --> 00:09:49,501 He had this crazy anime collection. 120 00:09:49,589 --> 00:09:52,592 And he just had all these boxes. 121 00:09:59,033 --> 00:10:01,383 According to Grant, he spent most of his time 122 00:10:01,470 --> 00:10:03,951 in his room playing video games. 123 00:10:04,038 --> 00:10:06,649 Since Grant didn't have a job at the time, 124 00:10:06,736 --> 00:10:09,696 his parents paid for all of his expenses. 125 00:13:15,620 --> 00:13:16,796 He thought he was in love with her. 126 00:13:16,883 --> 00:13:18,232 - Obsession. - So obsessed. 127 00:13:18,319 --> 00:13:21,061 Silvie doesn't love you. It's a full-on addiction. 128 00:13:33,247 --> 00:13:36,467 Grant, wake up. 129 00:13:36,554 --> 00:13:37,686 It's virtual. 130 00:13:37,773 --> 00:13:39,557 She's not real. She doesn't love you. 131 00:13:39,644 --> 00:13:41,777 You're paying for it. Wake up. 132 00:13:55,965 --> 00:13:57,837 And you know, Grant, there's so much 133 00:13:57,924 --> 00:14:00,578 that is hard to make sense of in this story, 134 00:14:00,665 --> 00:14:02,798 but it does seem like Silvie was 135 00:14:02,885 --> 00:14:05,845 the one person that you felt comfortable opening up to. 136 00:14:05,932 --> 00:14:09,674 What do you think we're missing by not having her voice? 137 00:14:09,761 --> 00:14:12,329 Without her involvement, nothing 138 00:14:12,416 --> 00:14:14,331 can really get cleared up. 139 00:15:16,002 --> 00:15:18,482 This is after everything had been revealed, after you'd 140 00:15:18,569 --> 00:15:21,007 been accused of murdering your family, 141 00:15:21,094 --> 00:15:23,357 that you had stolen all this money. 142 00:15:23,444 --> 00:15:27,143 Did Silvie really reach out to you after all that? 143 00:15:31,582 --> 00:15:34,585 You know, not to not directly answer your question, 144 00:15:34,672 --> 00:15:37,501 but I feel like-- 145 00:15:37,588 --> 00:15:40,461 Oh, God. So sorry. 146 00:15:40,548 --> 00:15:42,376 Lost it there. 147 00:15:42,463 --> 00:15:44,378 I mean, I really wish that Silvie would be more 148 00:15:44,465 --> 00:15:49,035 open to contributing to this project, just talking to you, 149 00:15:49,122 --> 00:15:53,169 even if it was, like, off the record. 150 00:15:53,256 --> 00:15:55,215 You know, as you know, we're planning 151 00:15:55,302 --> 00:15:58,435 to go try to find Silvie, 152 00:15:58,522 --> 00:16:01,308 to speak to her, to get her end of this story. 153 00:16:03,571 --> 00:16:05,660 Hopefully we can find her and convince her 154 00:16:05,747 --> 00:16:08,489 to sit down and talk with us. 155 00:16:37,213 --> 00:16:39,085 Hey, Dora, where are we right now? 156 00:16:39,172 --> 00:16:40,869 So this is the Druzba neighborhood. 157 00:16:40,956 --> 00:16:43,524 It's on the outskirts of Sofia. 158 00:16:43,611 --> 00:16:47,876 These blocks around here are quite typical for the older 159 00:16:47,963 --> 00:16:49,530 neighborhoods of Sofia. 160 00:16:49,617 --> 00:16:52,315 They were built, like, 50, 60 years ago, let's say, 161 00:16:52,402 --> 00:16:55,057 and they all look the same. 162 00:16:55,144 --> 00:16:56,537 And as far as I understand, 163 00:16:56,624 --> 00:16:58,495 we sort of had an incomplete address for Silviya. 164 00:16:58,582 --> 00:17:00,454 Is this right? 165 00:17:00,541 --> 00:17:03,109 So we have a building but not an apartment number. 166 00:17:03,196 --> 00:17:05,154 Is that right? - That's right. 167 00:17:05,241 --> 00:17:08,157 So there's no way to tell exactly 168 00:17:08,244 --> 00:17:10,899 which apartment she lives in. 169 00:17:10,986 --> 00:17:13,249 I mean, this is what's so curious to me is seeing just 170 00:17:13,336 --> 00:17:16,035 how radically different this environment is 171 00:17:16,122 --> 00:17:19,560 from this, like, lush, green suburbia of Florida, 172 00:17:19,647 --> 00:17:21,475 where Grant lived. 173 00:17:21,562 --> 00:17:23,868 These people lived in such different universes, 174 00:17:23,955 --> 00:17:26,610 and yet they're joined together by this camming relationship 175 00:17:26,697 --> 00:17:28,656 and now this terrible crime. 176 00:17:28,743 --> 00:17:30,614 I wonder if they really had any conception of what 177 00:17:30,701 --> 00:17:32,355 each other's lives were like. 178 00:17:32,442 --> 00:17:35,663 I would say it's probably kind of-- 179 00:17:35,750 --> 00:17:39,188 Silvie's day-to-day life looked quite 180 00:17:39,275 --> 00:17:41,973 different from what you were describing over there 181 00:17:42,061 --> 00:17:44,106 in Florida. 182 00:17:45,847 --> 00:17:47,196 I keep scanning everyone's face, 183 00:17:47,283 --> 00:17:49,894 waiting to see her walking down the street. 184 00:18:01,950 --> 00:18:04,170 OK, so we have a building, we have a block, 185 00:18:04,257 --> 00:18:06,520 but not an address and certainly not a Silvie. 186 00:18:06,607 --> 00:18:08,652 So where does this leave us? 187 00:18:08,739 --> 00:18:12,091 So I've had a few clues to look through. 188 00:18:12,178 --> 00:18:16,095 So, basically, what I realized is that it's almost 189 00:18:16,182 --> 00:18:18,749 like there is two different people... 190 00:18:18,836 --> 00:18:21,056 - Mm. - That I've been looking for. 191 00:18:21,143 --> 00:18:26,670 So we have this first person, Ady Sweet. 192 00:18:26,757 --> 00:18:30,065 And then there is the other person that is a lot more 193 00:18:30,152 --> 00:18:33,460 private, and that's Silviya. - Mm-hmm. 194 00:18:33,547 --> 00:18:36,071 Online, there is not that much about her. 195 00:18:36,158 --> 00:18:39,596 I couldn't find a social media profile. 196 00:18:39,683 --> 00:18:42,469 There is nothing that's related to the real world, 197 00:18:42,556 --> 00:18:44,514 if you see what I mean. - Right. 198 00:18:44,601 --> 00:18:49,476 But because Silviya sent post and postcards 199 00:18:49,563 --> 00:18:52,305 and she sent small presents to Grant, 200 00:18:52,392 --> 00:18:56,091 there is the strangest thing that she 201 00:18:56,178 --> 00:18:58,311 sent that I was looking at. 202 00:18:58,398 --> 00:19:00,791 Yeah, what is this? I don't remember seeing this. 203 00:19:00,878 --> 00:19:03,664 This looks like a blood test 204 00:19:03,751 --> 00:19:05,883 that you would go and do in a lab, 205 00:19:05,970 --> 00:19:09,235 all sorts of, like, glucose. 206 00:19:09,322 --> 00:19:10,975 I mean, we have to assume this is hers. 207 00:19:11,062 --> 00:19:12,455 I don't know why else she would-- 208 00:19:12,542 --> 00:19:13,804 - Yeah. - You know, Grant-- 209 00:19:13,891 --> 00:19:15,371 Grant is a nurse. 210 00:19:15,458 --> 00:19:17,721 He was almost a certified nurse anesthetist. 211 00:19:17,808 --> 00:19:19,723 He would have known exactly how to read this. 212 00:19:19,810 --> 00:19:21,943 He would have known exactly what all of this meant. 213 00:19:22,030 --> 00:19:25,860 So she must have been sharing her blood test with him to see 214 00:19:25,947 --> 00:19:27,470 what he thought, to see if-- 215 00:19:27,557 --> 00:19:30,343 OK, yeah, maybe she just sent it to consult 216 00:19:30,430 --> 00:19:32,127 with him about something. 217 00:19:32,214 --> 00:19:33,520 I mean, I don't know. 218 00:19:33,607 --> 00:19:35,609 In a way, it's something that you 219 00:19:35,696 --> 00:19:37,741 would send to someone you kind of really trust, which is-- 220 00:19:37,828 --> 00:19:39,656 Someone you really trust. 221 00:19:39,743 --> 00:19:44,313 But then there was one other thing I saw in the folder. 222 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,576 There is a Viber account with a number. 223 00:19:46,663 --> 00:19:48,491 What is Viber? 224 00:19:48,578 --> 00:19:51,146 It's a messaging app and a free calls app. 225 00:19:51,233 --> 00:19:54,758 It's like WhatsApp and Messenger. 226 00:19:54,845 --> 00:19:57,108 I tried calling. - Mm-hmm. 227 00:19:57,196 --> 00:20:00,590 I also send a message, but I haven't got a response. 228 00:20:00,677 --> 00:20:02,026 But I can keep trying. 229 00:20:02,113 --> 00:20:03,593 I mean, this is a four-year-old number 230 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:04,899 at this point. 231 00:20:04,986 --> 00:20:06,814 I'm sure after the crime, she disconnected it. 232 00:20:06,901 --> 00:20:08,294 Yeah, we'll see. 233 00:20:08,381 --> 00:20:10,209 Maybe we'll keep trying or something. 234 00:20:10,296 --> 00:20:12,515 - Yeah, exactly. - Yeah. Who knows? 235 00:20:12,602 --> 00:20:14,169 So the investigation continues. 236 00:20:14,256 --> 00:20:16,650 We're not done yet. - Yeah. 237 00:23:48,862 --> 00:23:51,342 So we, I think, told you that through our reporting, 238 00:23:51,430 --> 00:23:53,170 we've come up with a couple of new details. 239 00:23:53,257 --> 00:23:54,911 We want to play an excerpt from a conversation 240 00:23:54,998 --> 00:23:56,347 I had with Grant recently. 241 00:23:56,435 --> 00:23:57,392 We're going to give you a phone. 242 00:23:57,479 --> 00:23:59,046 And then you're going to hit play. 243 00:23:59,133 --> 00:24:00,351 And we just want to see your reaction. 244 00:24:00,439 --> 00:24:03,180 Cameras, let us know when you're set. 245 00:24:03,267 --> 00:24:04,834 Are we rolling, everybody? - Yep. 246 00:24:04,921 --> 00:24:06,183 OK. 247 00:24:06,270 --> 00:24:08,011 All right, go ahead and hit play. 248 00:24:39,347 --> 00:24:42,393 That's it. 249 00:24:42,481 --> 00:24:46,267 Well, that solves the mystery. 250 00:24:46,354 --> 00:24:48,095 - So what do you think? - Oh, it's fascinating. 251 00:24:48,182 --> 00:24:49,705 Yeah. 252 00:24:49,792 --> 00:24:51,228 It leaves me a little bit of closure 253 00:24:51,315 --> 00:24:54,667 that I know that he wasn't wrongly convicted. 254 00:24:54,754 --> 00:24:56,320 So the fascinating part to me is, like, 255 00:24:56,407 --> 00:24:58,497 "I did those murders." 256 00:24:58,584 --> 00:25:00,281 It's not, like, I shot and killed my dad. 257 00:25:00,368 --> 00:25:01,412 I shot and killed my mom. 258 00:25:01,500 --> 00:25:03,110 And I shot and killed my brother. 259 00:25:03,197 --> 00:25:05,286 It's just interesting the way he says it. 260 00:25:05,373 --> 00:25:07,462 Are you surprised that he decided to confess? 261 00:25:07,549 --> 00:25:09,986 No, I'm not surprised he decided to confess. 262 00:25:10,073 --> 00:25:13,207 I think this may be his way to finally 263 00:25:13,294 --> 00:25:17,690 get it out in the open, kind of a weight off his shoulders. 264 00:25:17,777 --> 00:25:20,519 So, on one hand, my reaction to that 265 00:25:20,606 --> 00:25:25,567 is that he could have saved his remaining family 266 00:25:25,654 --> 00:25:31,312 a whole lot of grief by saying that and pleading guilty. 267 00:25:31,399 --> 00:25:33,532 And he chose not to do that. 268 00:25:33,619 --> 00:25:37,536 And it's the continuation of the selfishness 269 00:25:37,623 --> 00:25:40,539 that we've always seen from him. 270 00:25:40,626 --> 00:25:43,367 Maybe it was gnawing at him, so he felt like he 271 00:25:43,454 --> 00:25:44,717 had to get it off his chest. 272 00:25:44,804 --> 00:25:48,503 But he didn't show any remorse for what he did. 273 00:26:07,043 --> 00:26:08,610 Mr. Turpin, raise your right hand. 274 00:26:08,697 --> 00:26:10,917 Be ready to be sworn, please. 275 00:26:11,004 --> 00:26:12,875 Do you know an individual named Grant Amato? 276 00:26:12,962 --> 00:26:14,311 I do. 277 00:26:14,398 --> 00:26:16,009 How long have you known Grant Amato? 278 00:26:16,096 --> 00:26:17,967 I've known Grant since we were in high school, 279 00:26:18,054 --> 00:26:19,795 about 15 years. 280 00:26:19,882 --> 00:26:21,580 All right, the car is clearly not in the-- 281 00:26:41,338 --> 00:26:43,645 When would that have happened? 282 00:26:43,732 --> 00:26:47,649 If he shoots them and kills them with that gun, 283 00:26:47,736 --> 00:26:50,217 he then drives to Blake Turpin's house 284 00:26:50,304 --> 00:26:53,002 and messes around in his backyard? 285 00:26:57,398 --> 00:26:58,791 There was digital imprints that he was 286 00:26:58,878 --> 00:27:00,923 at the Publix at 3 o'clock. 287 00:27:01,010 --> 00:27:05,101 By 9:30, he was under surveillance. 288 00:27:05,188 --> 00:27:09,453 So somehow he must have done it between 3:00 and 5:00 AM. 289 00:27:10,933 --> 00:27:13,501 Isn't there going to be some kind of leftover evidence 290 00:27:13,588 --> 00:27:15,329 of some kind of digging? 291 00:27:15,416 --> 00:27:17,592 I mean, it's not exactly, like, the best way to dump something. 292 00:27:17,679 --> 00:27:19,333 But then again, who am I to say? 293 00:27:19,420 --> 00:27:20,900 They didn't find it. 294 00:27:24,338 --> 00:27:26,340 - Six inches, silver. 295 00:27:26,427 --> 00:27:28,081 Right. No, over. 296 00:27:28,168 --> 00:27:30,431 No. No. 297 00:27:30,518 --> 00:27:31,954 It's kind of just unimaginable 298 00:27:32,041 --> 00:27:34,653 what this man did after committing these homicides. 299 00:27:34,740 --> 00:27:36,829 And now we have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, 300 00:27:36,916 --> 00:27:40,180 eight sheriffs back here on a scavenger hunt 301 00:27:40,267 --> 00:27:42,878 that Grant sent us all on. 302 00:27:42,965 --> 00:27:44,488 I just don't know. 303 00:27:44,575 --> 00:27:45,881 I don't know what's real anymore. 304 00:27:45,968 --> 00:27:48,579 Is he lying? Are they just not finding it? 305 00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:50,146 Oh, my God. You didn't find anything? 306 00:27:50,233 --> 00:27:52,279 No. 307 00:27:52,366 --> 00:27:54,368 They definitely look like they're losing confidence. 308 00:27:54,455 --> 00:27:57,240 Nobody knows what's real anymore. 309 00:28:02,245 --> 00:28:03,507 Grub. 310 00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:09,949 - There's no doubt he's a liar. - Yeah. 311 00:28:10,036 --> 00:28:12,734 He lied to us, lied to his family, lied to his friends... 312 00:28:12,821 --> 00:28:15,041 - Yeah. - Lied to her. 313 00:28:15,128 --> 00:28:16,651 Yeah, it's a very strange case. 314 00:28:16,738 --> 00:28:19,393 - It is, a very sad case. - Yeah. 315 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,438 I know we did everything we could have done, 316 00:28:21,525 --> 00:28:23,397 exhausted everything we had available to us. 317 00:28:23,484 --> 00:28:25,138 Well, I think you guys-- 318 00:28:25,225 --> 00:28:26,661 But the right person is in jail, in my opinion. 319 00:28:26,748 --> 00:28:27,967 Yeah. 320 00:28:30,752 --> 00:28:34,974 Grant, we just went down to Florida 321 00:28:35,061 --> 00:28:39,413 to Blake Turpin's house and tried to dig up the gun. 322 00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:40,936 - OK. - We were in touch 323 00:28:41,023 --> 00:28:43,156 with the Seminole County sheriffs. 324 00:28:43,243 --> 00:28:45,724 They spent about four hours digging up his yard, 325 00:28:45,811 --> 00:28:48,944 and they did not find a gun. 326 00:28:49,031 --> 00:28:50,293 Crazy. 327 00:28:52,861 --> 00:28:55,516 So what's going on? 328 00:28:55,603 --> 00:28:59,215 I mean, that is very surprising 329 00:28:59,302 --> 00:29:02,741 only because... 330 00:29:02,828 --> 00:29:05,961 the only thing that I can think of is, 331 00:29:06,048 --> 00:29:10,096 there's, obviously, been, like, lawn work done, maybe even 332 00:29:10,183 --> 00:29:13,403 excavation type work to get rid of the huge tree stumps 333 00:29:13,490 --> 00:29:16,450 and whatnot for the couple of trees that he had back there. 334 00:29:16,537 --> 00:29:20,149 Because that's very strange that-- 335 00:29:20,236 --> 00:29:21,672 that it's not there anymore. 336 00:29:29,855 --> 00:29:32,422 Well, Grant, you know, I feel really conflicted, you know? 337 00:29:32,509 --> 00:29:34,207 I put myself on a limb. 338 00:29:34,294 --> 00:29:37,427 To go out there, I had to give a sworn statement. 339 00:29:37,514 --> 00:29:39,516 And then the gun wasn't there. 340 00:29:39,603 --> 00:29:41,736 I think you can imagine how that makes me look, 341 00:29:41,823 --> 00:29:44,043 how that makes my team look. 342 00:29:44,130 --> 00:29:47,568 You know, are you being truthful with me, Grant? 343 00:29:47,655 --> 00:29:49,135 That is crazy. 344 00:29:49,222 --> 00:29:52,312 You know, I know that this is a professional question, 345 00:29:52,399 --> 00:29:56,185 but it's very irritating to always have to defend myself 346 00:29:56,272 --> 00:29:59,014 when I'm trying to do something, like, altruistic. 347 00:29:59,101 --> 00:30:00,581 You know, I'm trying to do something 348 00:30:00,668 --> 00:30:06,413 here where this has absolutely zero benefit for me. 349 00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:09,546 But... 350 00:30:09,633 --> 00:30:12,636 yes, once again, I am being truthful. 351 00:31:50,647 --> 00:31:52,867 Everybody believes 352 00:31:52,954 --> 00:31:56,349 that I murdered my family 353 00:31:56,436 --> 00:31:58,177 for Silvie. 354 00:31:58,264 --> 00:32:01,354 Everybody believes that the reason why Grant Amato 355 00:32:01,441 --> 00:32:04,400 murdered his family was because they would not 356 00:32:04,487 --> 00:32:08,187 let him be with this woman. 357 00:32:08,274 --> 00:32:10,711 That is not true. 358 00:32:10,798 --> 00:32:14,410 It wasn't some act of passion 359 00:32:14,497 --> 00:32:16,978 or anything like that. 360 00:32:17,065 --> 00:32:19,894 Well, Grant, what's the right answer? 361 00:32:19,981 --> 00:32:23,158 What went wrong? 362 00:32:23,245 --> 00:32:26,292 Every single day was the same exact two-, 363 00:32:26,379 --> 00:32:29,077 three-hour-long conversation just about the same shit 364 00:32:29,164 --> 00:32:31,297 over and over and over again. 365 00:32:31,384 --> 00:32:34,256 I was completely disconnected from Cody, 366 00:32:34,343 --> 00:32:37,912 who was my literal lifeline my whole life. 367 00:32:37,999 --> 00:32:41,350 My mom was isolated in her own world 368 00:32:41,437 --> 00:32:45,398 and dealing with all of the ramifications of my dad. 369 00:32:45,485 --> 00:32:48,009 It was just a constant reminder every day of the failure 370 00:32:48,096 --> 00:32:51,926 that I had become and how much I just let down everybody. 371 00:32:52,013 --> 00:32:53,319 You know? 372 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,325 And, Grant, did they try to help you figure out 373 00:32:59,412 --> 00:33:00,979 what you were going through? 374 00:33:01,066 --> 00:33:02,937 You know, you had made mistakes. 375 00:33:03,024 --> 00:33:06,593 Did they try to help you examine them? 376 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,900 My mother and my father had actually been 377 00:33:09,988 --> 00:33:12,294 going to a family therapist. 378 00:33:12,381 --> 00:33:14,296 And I went to one. 379 00:33:14,383 --> 00:33:19,084 I went to one family-therapy session. 380 00:33:19,171 --> 00:33:23,827 And I can't put it into enough words 381 00:33:23,914 --> 00:33:27,831 how embarrassing it was, 382 00:33:27,918 --> 00:33:31,096 especially when my brother Cody started talking, 383 00:33:31,183 --> 00:33:36,057 because everything that he said was right. 384 00:33:36,144 --> 00:33:41,410 And I knew that this therapist was thinking, wow, 385 00:33:41,497 --> 00:33:43,586 this dude's got it together. 386 00:33:43,673 --> 00:33:45,545 Like, he's so logical. 387 00:33:45,632 --> 00:33:46,850 He's successful. 388 00:33:46,937 --> 00:33:49,331 He's trying to help out. 389 00:33:49,418 --> 00:33:52,465 Look at all the money he spent for his brother. 390 00:33:52,552 --> 00:33:57,339 And, man, he's like Jesus Christ reincarnated. 391 00:33:57,426 --> 00:33:59,472 Then it comes to me. 392 00:34:02,127 --> 00:34:03,432 I'm going. I'm going. I'm going. 393 00:34:05,304 --> 00:34:06,957 Nice job, Grant. 394 00:34:07,045 --> 00:34:09,656 And you... 395 00:34:09,743 --> 00:34:12,528 are going to be good. 396 00:34:12,615 --> 00:34:15,183 And they're just asking, you know, 397 00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:21,624 why I ventured into this alternate lifestyle. 398 00:34:21,711 --> 00:34:23,800 Thank you, Grant, for everything tonight, 399 00:34:23,887 --> 00:34:25,759 everything that I'm wearing tonight. 400 00:34:25,846 --> 00:34:27,239 And I see it as a problem. 401 00:34:27,326 --> 00:34:29,241 Grant, thank you so much. 402 00:34:29,328 --> 00:34:32,548 All that anybody was talking about was these six months. 403 00:34:32,635 --> 00:34:37,118 And it's like, 27 years before this didn't exist. 404 00:34:38,598 --> 00:34:40,730 So the end result was that I was 405 00:34:40,817 --> 00:34:45,170 to improve my self-image 406 00:34:45,257 --> 00:34:49,043 because apparently that's what my issue was. 407 00:34:49,130 --> 00:34:52,525 I perceived myself as less than-- 408 00:34:52,612 --> 00:34:55,397 less than my father, 409 00:34:55,484 --> 00:34:58,879 less than my brother, 410 00:34:58,966 --> 00:35:01,708 the male figures in my family. 411 00:35:01,795 --> 00:35:04,102 And once again, you're telling this 412 00:35:04,189 --> 00:35:08,062 to a person who has a very dominant, 413 00:35:08,149 --> 00:35:11,892 pompous personality. 414 00:35:11,979 --> 00:35:14,677 And instead of just fucking giving me a plane ticket 415 00:35:14,764 --> 00:35:17,811 and letting me disappear into the world on my own, 416 00:35:17,898 --> 00:35:20,248 which is all that I said that I wanted to do-- 417 00:35:20,335 --> 00:35:22,903 I wanted to get away from everybody. 418 00:35:22,990 --> 00:35:27,299 That's kind of a red flag that you all are not helping me. 419 00:35:27,386 --> 00:35:32,478 So I was very unreceptive to therapy 420 00:35:32,565 --> 00:35:36,917 when it, like, wasn't going in the direction 421 00:35:37,004 --> 00:35:40,921 that I thought that it should be going. 422 00:35:41,008 --> 00:35:46,970 And the day after we had this therapy session was when they 423 00:35:47,057 --> 00:35:49,408 tell me, hey, we're going to be admitting 424 00:35:49,495 --> 00:35:54,413 you to a private rehab facility because you have a problem. 425 00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:58,678 You're not open to any form of family therapy. 426 00:35:58,765 --> 00:36:03,770 And I was just completely taken aback. 427 00:36:03,857 --> 00:36:06,512 I just felt so betrayed. 428 00:36:10,603 --> 00:36:12,648 I just did what my normal defense mechanism was, 429 00:36:12,735 --> 00:36:14,084 and I closed off. 430 00:36:14,172 --> 00:36:15,999 I shut down. 431 00:36:16,086 --> 00:36:18,567 Being told that I'm not going to be able to have 432 00:36:18,654 --> 00:36:21,353 my cell phone or any electronic device for 60 days, 433 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,138 being detached from the online world 434 00:36:24,225 --> 00:36:26,923 was just all the more traumatic. 435 00:36:27,010 --> 00:36:28,229 You know? 436 00:36:28,316 --> 00:36:32,451 My one outlet that had brought me joy, 437 00:36:32,538 --> 00:36:36,106 this alternate lifestyle that I had developed, 438 00:36:36,194 --> 00:36:37,760 was gone. 439 00:36:37,847 --> 00:36:41,416 So now this life that I was left with was pointless. 440 00:36:49,381 --> 00:36:53,646 And so that was when I started thinking about killing 441 00:36:53,733 --> 00:36:55,300 my family members. 442 00:37:43,348 --> 00:37:44,697 It definitely takes a toll on you, 443 00:37:44,784 --> 00:37:46,176 working these crime scenes. 444 00:37:46,264 --> 00:37:49,267 You feel for the families. 445 00:37:49,354 --> 00:37:52,574 I mean, you think about your own family. 446 00:37:52,661 --> 00:37:57,275 God forbid something like this could happen. 447 00:37:57,362 --> 00:37:59,581 And this just goes to show, you can put someone 448 00:37:59,668 --> 00:38:01,627 in a perfect circumstance and still 449 00:38:01,714 --> 00:38:04,499 have a kid that is a major, major problem 450 00:38:04,586 --> 00:38:07,285 that you could not solve, even with your best efforts. 451 00:38:07,372 --> 00:38:09,287 And this family seemed like they 452 00:38:09,374 --> 00:38:10,723 put in their absolute best efforts 453 00:38:10,810 --> 00:38:11,985 to try to fix his issues. 454 00:38:18,383 --> 00:38:20,646 I believe that people perceive 455 00:38:20,733 --> 00:38:25,912 me to be a monstrous, psychopathic, 456 00:38:25,999 --> 00:38:28,567 simple human being. 457 00:38:28,654 --> 00:38:32,005 You know? 458 00:38:32,092 --> 00:38:35,182 And it's so polar to who I actually am. 459 00:38:35,269 --> 00:38:39,142 You know, I can't think of... 460 00:38:41,971 --> 00:38:43,451 I don't really know. 461 00:38:43,538 --> 00:38:46,324 I can't think of, like, a better way 462 00:38:46,411 --> 00:38:49,414 to commit those crimes because nobody saw me. 463 00:38:49,501 --> 00:38:52,068 Nobody knew what was about to happen. 464 00:38:52,155 --> 00:38:56,595 You know, and I did that on purpose because I didn't want 465 00:38:56,682 --> 00:39:01,077 that final thought to be, wow, I can't believe 466 00:39:01,164 --> 00:39:03,210 you're about to do this to me. 467 00:39:03,297 --> 00:39:04,690 You know? 468 00:39:04,777 --> 00:39:11,305 So the fact that I had that compassion, 469 00:39:11,392 --> 00:39:14,830 that's the way that I am, you know. 470 00:39:14,917 --> 00:39:17,877 It's like, even in the process of doing something terrible, 471 00:39:17,964 --> 00:39:21,707 I'm trying to be as compassionate as possible. 472 00:39:21,794 --> 00:39:24,623 Grant, you must know that people are going 473 00:39:24,710 --> 00:39:26,451 to have a lot of difficulty saying 474 00:39:26,538 --> 00:39:28,409 that you committed these homicides 475 00:39:28,496 --> 00:39:30,542 in a compassionate way. 476 00:39:30,629 --> 00:39:34,502 You must know how that's going to sound to people. 477 00:39:34,589 --> 00:39:37,505 I might say that I don't care about people, that, you know, 478 00:39:37,592 --> 00:39:39,333 I just want to be left alone. 479 00:39:39,420 --> 00:39:42,728 But, honestly, you know, whatever 480 00:39:42,815 --> 00:39:48,081 capacities I have to help people, I do, unquestioned. 481 00:42:41,907 --> 00:42:43,778 There are definitely some cases 482 00:42:43,865 --> 00:42:45,693 where you can feel some sort of sympathy 483 00:42:45,780 --> 00:42:49,001 for Grant, for his struggles, for what he was going through. 484 00:42:49,088 --> 00:42:52,308 But you put them all together, you realize that he 485 00:42:52,395 --> 00:42:55,137 came from a loving home. 486 00:42:55,224 --> 00:42:57,052 You realize that he had a mother 487 00:42:57,139 --> 00:43:00,360 who loved him dearly, who would do anything to protect him. 488 00:43:00,447 --> 00:43:02,623 You realize that he had a brother who did the same. 489 00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:05,017 You realize he had a father who was kind of a hard-ass 490 00:43:05,104 --> 00:43:10,239 but still made all these efforts to protect his son. 491 00:43:10,326 --> 00:43:14,679 And he made this selfish decision 492 00:43:14,766 --> 00:43:17,856 to take their lives. 493 00:43:17,943 --> 00:43:23,775 Grant Amato put himself in this downward spiral. 494 00:43:23,862 --> 00:43:28,997 Grant Amato refused to accept the second chances, 495 00:43:29,084 --> 00:43:32,000 refused to accept the help that he was offered. 496 00:43:32,087 --> 00:43:33,219 Did you leave the house... 497 00:43:33,306 --> 00:43:34,786 Grant Amato... 498 00:43:34,873 --> 00:43:36,614 With your brother Cody looking like that? 499 00:43:36,701 --> 00:43:38,441 Refused to admit what everybody pretty 500 00:43:38,528 --> 00:43:40,182 much knew at this point. 501 00:43:40,269 --> 00:43:42,489 - Who did this to your family? - He killed his entire family. 502 00:43:42,576 --> 00:43:45,884 I didn't do any of this. 503 00:43:45,971 --> 00:43:51,324 Part of me is wondering if it's this desperate sense 504 00:43:51,411 --> 00:43:53,021 of wanting attention. 505 00:43:53,108 --> 00:43:54,893 No. 506 00:43:54,980 --> 00:43:57,591 He knew that he would get attention by going on trial. 507 00:43:57,678 --> 00:44:00,289 As to the reasonable-doubt instruction, objection, state? 508 00:44:00,376 --> 00:44:01,595 No objection. 509 00:44:01,682 --> 00:44:04,076 - Any objection, defense? - No. 510 00:44:04,163 --> 00:44:06,600 He knew that none of this would be happening 511 00:44:06,687 --> 00:44:08,471 had he pleaded guilty. 512 00:44:15,130 --> 00:44:19,004 And he still chose to put his surviving brother 513 00:44:19,091 --> 00:44:22,790 through the hell of seeing his parents' 514 00:44:22,877 --> 00:44:26,620 and his brother's body blown up on a courtroom, 515 00:44:26,707 --> 00:44:29,188 the hell of publicizing of this. 516 00:44:29,275 --> 00:44:32,670 This is just a horrific experience for everybody. 517 00:44:32,757 --> 00:44:34,846 Three dead, two men and one woman 518 00:44:34,933 --> 00:44:38,850 in her 50s, from apparent gunshot wounds. 519 00:44:38,937 --> 00:44:43,637 Grant Amato destroyed so many lives, 520 00:44:43,724 --> 00:44:47,032 people he claimed that he cared about. 521 00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:50,078 And what I would have to say to him is, 522 00:44:50,165 --> 00:44:53,778 you know, was it really worth it? 523 00:44:56,519 --> 00:45:01,655 It's a story of a very selfish, manipulative man 524 00:45:01,742 --> 00:45:04,527 kind of getting what he wants in the attention. 525 00:45:13,536 --> 00:45:15,930 You know, Grant, we're discussing 526 00:45:16,017 --> 00:45:18,324 the homicide of your family, you killing your family. 527 00:45:18,411 --> 00:45:20,587 You know, sometimes a smile will come across your face. 528 00:45:20,674 --> 00:45:23,372 And-- - It's just so weird. 529 00:45:23,459 --> 00:45:25,810 I know it's so weird, Grant, but I have to ask, 530 00:45:25,897 --> 00:45:27,463 are you remorseful? 531 00:45:27,550 --> 00:45:29,291 Are you sorry you did this? 532 00:45:38,387 --> 00:45:41,347 Yes, I am remorseful. I wish I had never done this. 533 00:45:41,434 --> 00:45:45,434 I wish I could go back in time and have my family back. 40680

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