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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:06,551 --> 00:00:08,743 ♪ Nick, nick, nick, nick Na-nick, nick, nick ♪ 2 00:00:08,827 --> 00:00:11,413 ♪ Nick-e-lo-de-on! 3 00:00:11,517 --> 00:00:12,329 For a certain generation, 4 00:00:12,413 --> 00:00:14,310 the Nickelodeon jingle is burned 5 00:00:14,413 --> 00:00:15,724 into our brain. 6 00:00:15,827 --> 00:00:17,433 Get some juice in the glass! 7 00:00:17,517 --> 00:00:19,103 In the early '90s, 8 00:00:19,206 --> 00:00:21,275 Nickelodeon was kid everything. 9 00:00:21,379 --> 00:00:22,655 It was like the mecca. 10 00:00:22,758 --> 00:00:25,605 Nickelodeon is the place where only kids win. 11 00:00:25,689 --> 00:00:28,275 It was the starting point of everything cool. 12 00:00:28,965 --> 00:00:30,053 You come home. 13 00:00:30,137 --> 00:00:31,862 You watch Salute Your Shorts. 14 00:00:31,965 --> 00:00:33,413 Are You Afraid of the Dark? 15 00:00:33,517 --> 00:00:34,793 Have you lost your mind? 16 00:00:34,896 --> 00:00:37,310 Everybody watched Ren & Stimpy. 17 00:00:38,034 --> 00:00:40,034 God, I sound so old saying... 18 00:00:40,137 --> 00:00:41,605 You know, before when I was comin' up 19 00:00:41,689 --> 00:00:42,950 there were no internet, like... 20 00:00:44,551 --> 00:00:45,674 But there wasn't. 21 00:00:45,758 --> 00:00:47,931 We didn't have Netflix and Hulu. 22 00:00:48,034 --> 00:00:51,137 We didn't have ten things to choose from. 23 00:00:51,241 --> 00:00:52,551 There was Nickelodeon 24 00:00:52,655 --> 00:00:53,827 and there was Disney. 25 00:00:54,655 --> 00:00:55,965 And that was it. 26 00:00:56,068 --> 00:00:58,758 And you better hope that your house had cable. 27 00:00:58,862 --> 00:01:00,172 In the '90s and 2000s, 28 00:01:00,275 --> 00:01:02,778 there was one producer who was able to take Nickelodeon 29 00:01:02,862 --> 00:01:03,724 to new heights. 30 00:01:03,827 --> 00:01:05,295 It is our great honor to present 31 00:01:05,379 --> 00:01:08,793 the first ever Nickelodeon Lifetime Achievement Award 32 00:01:08,896 --> 00:01:10,881 to a man who's been making all of us laugh 33 00:01:10,965 --> 00:01:12,275 for the past two decades. 34 00:01:12,379 --> 00:01:15,137 Dan Schneider! 35 00:01:15,241 --> 00:01:17,172 The 2014 Kid's Choice Awards 36 00:01:17,275 --> 00:01:19,172 showed that Dan Schneider 37 00:01:19,275 --> 00:01:21,275 was Nickelodeon's golden boy. 38 00:01:22,379 --> 00:01:23,689 He was their cash cow. 39 00:01:23,793 --> 00:01:25,620 He created these shows that were... 40 00:01:25,724 --> 00:01:27,551 Hugely, hugely successful for them. 41 00:01:27,655 --> 00:01:30,536 He launched the careers of child actors 42 00:01:30,620 --> 00:01:32,413 who became major stars. 43 00:01:33,206 --> 00:01:34,620 For 20 years, 44 00:01:34,724 --> 00:01:36,620 he shaped children's entertainment 45 00:01:36,724 --> 00:01:38,896 and shaped children's culture. 46 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,862 When Dan accepted his award, he was elated, 47 00:01:41,965 --> 00:01:43,206 he was emotional, 48 00:01:43,310 --> 00:01:46,275 and very few could have predicted his downfall. 49 00:01:46,379 --> 00:01:47,758 Whoo! Try not to cry. 50 00:01:49,103 --> 00:01:50,620 Wow, thank you so much. 51 00:01:50,724 --> 00:01:51,624 I will warn you... 52 00:01:52,551 --> 00:01:54,931 If you were a child of the '90s... 53 00:01:55,862 --> 00:01:57,620 This is going to ruin that for you. 54 00:01:59,413 --> 00:02:01,241 What do we really know 55 00:02:01,344 --> 00:02:03,379 about Dan Schneider? 56 00:02:03,482 --> 00:02:06,019 For decades, Dan seemed like he was untouchable. 57 00:02:06,103 --> 00:02:08,172 But around 2017, 58 00:02:08,275 --> 00:02:10,034 the internet videos around Dan 59 00:02:10,137 --> 00:02:12,034 really started gaining momentum. 60 00:02:12,137 --> 00:02:13,881 He made them do things that were very weird. 61 00:02:13,965 --> 00:02:17,310 There are all these setups that referenced porn. 62 00:02:19,310 --> 00:02:21,810 Like, squirting goo on Jamie Lynn's face 63 00:02:21,827 --> 00:02:23,931 when she's just 13 years old. 64 00:02:24,482 --> 00:02:25,862 Feel these kids' feet. 65 00:02:25,965 --> 00:02:27,965 Wow, they're really soft. 66 00:02:28,068 --> 00:02:30,467 People were looking back at old scenes and saying, 67 00:02:30,551 --> 00:02:32,724 "Dan Schneider is obsessed with feet." 68 00:02:32,827 --> 00:02:33,689 Check this out. 69 00:02:33,793 --> 00:02:35,364 It's all very gross and foul things. 70 00:02:35,448 --> 00:02:36,812 ...Impossible to escape children's feet. 71 00:02:36,896 --> 00:02:38,881 - Dan Schneider... - ...absolutely disgusting. 72 00:02:38,965 --> 00:02:40,015 He's a grown ass man. 73 00:02:40,034 --> 00:02:41,534 What the are you doing? 74 00:02:43,137 --> 00:02:45,275 There's one video of Ariana Grande 75 00:02:45,379 --> 00:02:47,413 making a joke about a potato. 76 00:02:47,517 --> 00:02:48,931 Sometimes I wonder 77 00:02:49,034 --> 00:02:50,827 if you can get juice... 78 00:02:50,931 --> 00:02:51,965 From a potato. 79 00:02:58,689 --> 00:03:00,089 Did that air on Nickelodeon? 80 00:03:01,724 --> 00:03:02,827 Come on! 81 00:03:02,931 --> 00:03:04,482 Give up the juice. 82 00:03:04,896 --> 00:03:06,137 Yikes. 83 00:03:06,241 --> 00:03:07,896 I'm thirsty. 84 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:08,812 In another video, 85 00:03:08,896 --> 00:03:10,596 Ariana is pouring water on herself 86 00:03:10,620 --> 00:03:12,260 in what seems like a very sexual manner. 87 00:03:12,344 --> 00:03:14,000 And people started saying 88 00:03:14,103 --> 00:03:16,517 this feels inappropriate for children. 89 00:03:16,620 --> 00:03:19,241 Looking at Dan Schneider's stars, 90 00:03:19,344 --> 00:03:21,862 some of them became extremely famous, 91 00:03:21,965 --> 00:03:23,674 some of them really struggled publicly. 92 00:03:23,758 --> 00:03:25,241 After her arrest last week... 93 00:03:25,344 --> 00:03:26,709 Now some of them are starting to speak out 94 00:03:26,793 --> 00:03:28,847 about what happened when they were on his sets. 95 00:03:28,931 --> 00:03:31,631 I work with an incredibly emotionally abusive producer. 96 00:03:31,689 --> 00:03:34,275 I did not feel safe around Dan Schneider 97 00:03:34,379 --> 00:03:36,172 while I was working at Nickelodeon. 98 00:03:36,275 --> 00:03:38,000 All of this information 99 00:03:38,103 --> 00:03:40,793 has made us wonder... 100 00:03:40,896 --> 00:03:42,536 What was happening behind the scenes. 101 00:03:42,620 --> 00:03:44,517 As a reporter at Insider, 102 00:03:44,620 --> 00:03:46,965 I wanted to investigate further. 103 00:03:47,068 --> 00:03:52,172 I've been waiting for someone to question the climate. 104 00:03:53,275 --> 00:03:54,725 It's been a long time coming. 105 00:03:57,517 --> 00:04:01,034 I didn't feel safe to say, "This hurt me." 106 00:04:01,137 --> 00:04:03,517 The bad just doesn't go away. 107 00:04:03,620 --> 00:04:05,551 The bad stays for a lifetime. 108 00:04:06,620 --> 00:04:09,724 It was a toxic, unsafe environment. 109 00:04:10,689 --> 00:04:11,916 I can't sit on it anymore. 110 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,517 I can't watch it continue. 111 00:04:13,620 --> 00:04:16,793 I want, uh, people to be accountable. 112 00:04:18,827 --> 00:04:21,896 I've been waiting 17 years for today. 113 00:04:31,344 --> 00:04:33,344 Nickelodeon was a little wild. 114 00:04:33,448 --> 00:04:36,172 All right. All right, guys. 115 00:04:36,275 --> 00:04:37,329 It was a little quirky. 116 00:04:38,448 --> 00:04:39,798 Always funny... 117 00:04:40,068 --> 00:04:41,344 But from a kid's view. 118 00:04:42,655 --> 00:04:45,655 And in Nickelodeon shows, parents are, like, 119 00:04:45,758 --> 00:04:48,517 not really around. 120 00:04:48,620 --> 00:04:50,551 It was, like, the kid is the star. 121 00:04:50,655 --> 00:04:53,000 You know, sometimes parents are so dumb. 122 00:04:53,103 --> 00:04:55,364 Nickelodeon wasn't there to educate you. 123 00:04:55,448 --> 00:04:57,019 Put your hat on. 124 00:04:57,103 --> 00:04:58,674 We were there to have fun, to get slimed, 125 00:04:58,758 --> 00:04:59,658 to be entertained. 126 00:04:59,724 --> 00:05:00,931 I'll get you! 127 00:05:01,034 --> 00:05:02,184 I was slimed more times 128 00:05:02,241 --> 00:05:03,571 than I can care to tell you about. 129 00:05:03,655 --> 00:05:04,755 It was part of my job. 130 00:05:04,758 --> 00:05:07,008 It's cold, it's wet, it's gooey, it's sticky. 131 00:05:07,068 --> 00:05:09,965 Oh, my goly! 132 00:05:10,068 --> 00:05:11,931 Exactly how did that feel? 133 00:05:12,034 --> 00:05:13,384 Like my son threw up on me. 134 00:05:16,241 --> 00:05:18,984 In the mid-'90s, Nickelodeon is pushing the boundaries 135 00:05:19,068 --> 00:05:20,122 of children's entertainment. 136 00:05:22,586 --> 00:05:24,886 And this is when Dan Schneider arrives. 137 00:05:25,896 --> 00:05:27,586 He's young. He's ambitious. 138 00:05:27,689 --> 00:05:29,931 And he has a lot to prove. 139 00:05:32,965 --> 00:05:36,137 Dan comes out of Memphis. 140 00:05:36,241 --> 00:05:37,329 He describes himself as sort of 141 00:05:37,413 --> 00:05:39,310 a awkward fat kid. 142 00:05:39,413 --> 00:05:41,881 He's coming from a father who went to Harvard. 143 00:05:41,965 --> 00:05:44,482 And his parents do not have 144 00:05:44,586 --> 00:05:46,186 the highest expectations for him. 145 00:05:46,827 --> 00:05:48,077 He wasn't exactly someone 146 00:05:48,103 --> 00:05:50,753 who they thought was going to be massively successful. 147 00:05:52,551 --> 00:05:56,620 So Dan is able to find himself in drama. 148 00:05:56,724 --> 00:05:58,620 Early articles about Dan say 149 00:05:58,724 --> 00:05:59,931 he went to Harvard. 150 00:06:00,034 --> 00:06:04,137 But he never actually attended the university. 151 00:06:04,241 --> 00:06:06,103 He auditions for this teen movie 152 00:06:06,206 --> 00:06:08,406 that's shooting in Memphis and he gets a job. 153 00:06:08,586 --> 00:06:10,310 Hello, Pizzas R Us? 154 00:06:10,413 --> 00:06:11,364 It's a small role. 155 00:06:11,448 --> 00:06:13,275 But it eventually leads to Dan 156 00:06:13,379 --> 00:06:15,724 ending up on a really big show. 157 00:06:15,827 --> 00:06:17,053 He is on Head of the Class 158 00:06:17,137 --> 00:06:20,689 which is at the time one of the biggest comedies on TV. 159 00:06:20,793 --> 00:06:21,931 He was 19. 160 00:06:22,034 --> 00:06:23,329 This put us on the map, I mean... 161 00:06:23,413 --> 00:06:25,689 This got us small homes and this... 162 00:06:26,965 --> 00:06:29,724 We... We get tables in restaurants now. 163 00:06:29,827 --> 00:06:32,689 As an actor, Dan was cast as the fat kid. 164 00:06:32,793 --> 00:06:34,157 You guys pick on the blimp again. 165 00:06:34,241 --> 00:06:35,172 Nice. 166 00:06:35,275 --> 00:06:36,364 You could sing "We Are the World" 167 00:06:36,448 --> 00:06:37,812 all by yourself. 168 00:06:37,896 --> 00:06:39,743 He seemed always driven by this fat joke. 169 00:06:39,827 --> 00:06:42,344 "I'm gonna show people that that's not who I am. 170 00:06:42,448 --> 00:06:44,793 I'm not the fat kid. I'm this talented writer." 171 00:06:46,931 --> 00:06:50,310 His first rip that he sold in TV was Head of the Class. 172 00:06:50,413 --> 00:06:53,034 He cowrote it with one of the other cast members. 173 00:06:53,137 --> 00:06:56,206 And everything else happened because of that show. 174 00:06:57,689 --> 00:06:59,172 Several years later, 175 00:06:59,275 --> 00:07:01,724 Nickelodeon executive came to him and said, 176 00:07:01,827 --> 00:07:03,377 "Hey, we're working on this idea 177 00:07:03,448 --> 00:07:05,172 for a sketch show, All That. 178 00:07:05,275 --> 00:07:06,778 Would you like to write the pilot?" 179 00:07:06,862 --> 00:07:08,413 And the next thing you know, 180 00:07:08,517 --> 00:07:10,068 he is producing the show. 181 00:07:10,172 --> 00:07:11,862 He's writing episodes. 182 00:07:11,965 --> 00:07:14,517 All That first launched in 1994. 183 00:07:15,206 --> 00:07:16,206 The concept was, 184 00:07:16,310 --> 00:07:18,344 it was a Saturday Night Live for kids. 185 00:07:18,448 --> 00:07:20,260 I wanted to make a show for Nickelodeon 186 00:07:20,344 --> 00:07:21,965 and I wanted to do sketch comedy 187 00:07:22,068 --> 00:07:24,260 'cause no one had ever really done sketch comedy 188 00:07:24,344 --> 00:07:25,931 starring kids for kids. 189 00:07:26,034 --> 00:07:27,605 At the beginning of his career, 190 00:07:27,689 --> 00:07:29,889 Dan Schneider and his early producing partner 191 00:07:29,896 --> 00:07:31,862 Brian Robbins got noticed by the press 192 00:07:31,965 --> 00:07:33,605 for all of their success for All That. 193 00:07:33,689 --> 00:07:34,827 It's a special thing. 194 00:07:34,931 --> 00:07:37,019 I mean, not many kids get to go on national television 195 00:07:37,103 --> 00:07:38,536 and play 1,000 different characters. 196 00:07:38,620 --> 00:07:39,467 Eat rotten cheese... 197 00:07:39,551 --> 00:07:41,251 - We're doing highbrow stuff. - Yeah. 198 00:07:42,448 --> 00:07:44,536 All That was a really edgy concept. 199 00:07:44,620 --> 00:07:46,275 And it established Dan Schneider 200 00:07:46,379 --> 00:07:49,068 as this creative force at Nickelodeon. 201 00:07:49,172 --> 00:07:50,295 And he helped launch the career 202 00:07:50,379 --> 00:07:51,979 of some of comedy's biggest names 203 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,241 like Kel Mitchell and Kenan Thompson. 204 00:07:54,344 --> 00:07:56,482 Is chocolate good for congestion? 205 00:07:56,586 --> 00:07:58,034 I have no idea. 206 00:07:58,137 --> 00:07:59,517 All That quickly became 207 00:07:59,620 --> 00:08:01,517 a pretty big hit for Nickelodeon 208 00:08:01,620 --> 00:08:04,655 where they went from, like, a pretty scrappy production 209 00:08:04,758 --> 00:08:07,655 to getting some of the biggest names in entertainment 210 00:08:07,758 --> 00:08:08,758 to be these guests. 211 00:08:08,862 --> 00:08:10,310 I do. 212 00:08:10,413 --> 00:08:12,034 ♪ All That, yo We be coming ♪ 213 00:08:12,862 --> 00:08:14,965 My name is Leon Frierson. 214 00:08:15,068 --> 00:08:17,586 I was on seasons four to six of All That. 215 00:08:17,689 --> 00:08:18,896 Quinn gotta showered 216 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,137 and knocked out by a talking cheeseburger. 217 00:08:22,413 --> 00:08:24,724 A lot of us got our break on All That. 218 00:08:24,827 --> 00:08:27,241 I am Katrina Johnson. 219 00:08:27,344 --> 00:08:29,655 From the time I was ten to 16, 220 00:08:30,241 --> 00:08:32,379 I starred on All That. 221 00:08:32,862 --> 00:08:34,758 Garty! 222 00:08:34,862 --> 00:08:37,172 How are you, my darlin'? 223 00:08:37,275 --> 00:08:41,103 Dan Schneider was my mentor. 224 00:08:41,206 --> 00:08:44,000 And I remember, my first audition, he was there. 225 00:08:44,103 --> 00:08:46,310 All of my callbacks, he was there. 226 00:08:46,413 --> 00:08:48,103 You wanna... Sorry. 227 00:08:48,206 --> 00:08:50,379 You wanna see something really gross? 228 00:08:51,206 --> 00:08:52,034 Look at this. 229 00:08:57,379 --> 00:09:00,689 I'm so flat, it's disgusting. 230 00:09:00,793 --> 00:09:02,689 When we were filming the pilot, 231 00:09:02,793 --> 00:09:04,448 he came up to me and he said, 232 00:09:05,275 --> 00:09:06,206 "I chose you. 233 00:09:06,793 --> 00:09:08,172 You are my choice. 234 00:09:08,275 --> 00:09:09,925 And I know you're gonna be great." 235 00:09:11,655 --> 00:09:13,551 It made me feel like a million bucks. 236 00:09:14,655 --> 00:09:16,206 When I would say, 237 00:09:16,310 --> 00:09:18,517 "Hey, I have this idea for this character," 238 00:09:18,620 --> 00:09:19,862 he would always listen. 239 00:09:19,965 --> 00:09:23,482 And we would usually turn it into something. 240 00:09:23,586 --> 00:09:27,655 One day, the network called my parents and said, 241 00:09:27,758 --> 00:09:30,310 "We want to see how you would feel 242 00:09:30,413 --> 00:09:33,206 if we created The Katrina Johnson Show." 243 00:09:33,310 --> 00:09:34,847 And that I'm already living the dream life, 244 00:09:34,931 --> 00:09:36,724 but it gets even better. 245 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,137 Dan, and he was the head writer, so... 246 00:09:41,241 --> 00:09:42,758 Dan kind of ran things. 247 00:09:42,862 --> 00:09:45,000 I'm the producer. Executive producer. 248 00:09:45,103 --> 00:09:46,603 That's why he gets the headset. 249 00:09:47,172 --> 00:09:48,344 I have to yell. 250 00:09:48,448 --> 00:09:49,881 In early behind the scenes interviews, 251 00:09:49,965 --> 00:09:52,034 you see Dan presenting himself 252 00:09:52,137 --> 00:09:56,379 as a self-deprecating and really funny boss. 253 00:09:56,482 --> 00:10:00,793 Dan just created a really fun set. 254 00:10:00,896 --> 00:10:02,571 Don't know what's taking so long now. 255 00:10:02,655 --> 00:10:03,793 Let me find out. 256 00:10:03,896 --> 00:10:05,196 All right, come on. 257 00:10:06,482 --> 00:10:07,536 That could explain it. 258 00:10:07,620 --> 00:10:08,812 Come on, not again. 259 00:10:08,896 --> 00:10:11,172 ♪ Happy birthday 260 00:10:14,655 --> 00:10:16,155 Nothing humiliating about that! 261 00:10:17,655 --> 00:10:19,655 Dan was a big kid. 262 00:10:19,758 --> 00:10:22,482 He was always doing something to joke around 263 00:10:22,586 --> 00:10:24,724 or poke fun at somebody. 264 00:10:24,827 --> 00:10:25,777 I mean, okay, 265 00:10:25,827 --> 00:10:27,344 These are the breaks, y'all. 266 00:10:27,448 --> 00:10:29,758 He kept things pretty light in the beginning. 267 00:10:31,620 --> 00:10:34,724 On All That, he would inspire you 268 00:10:34,827 --> 00:10:36,433 to get whatever it was that you needed 269 00:10:36,517 --> 00:10:37,767 to get it done, you know? 270 00:10:38,793 --> 00:10:41,275 But we were kids and they were long days. 271 00:10:42,241 --> 00:10:43,467 You know, some would say 272 00:10:43,551 --> 00:10:45,329 that he was trying to push them towards greatness. 273 00:10:45,413 --> 00:10:48,586 But there's also a... Another side. 274 00:10:48,689 --> 00:10:52,827 A lot of these kids in the entertainment industry are vulnerable. 275 00:10:52,931 --> 00:10:55,413 The power balance between a child and an adult 276 00:10:55,517 --> 00:10:57,551 is so striking already. 277 00:10:57,655 --> 00:10:58,881 And then on top of it you add 278 00:10:58,965 --> 00:11:01,000 that it's an employment situation. 279 00:11:01,965 --> 00:11:04,482 These are eight to 15-year-olds... 280 00:11:04,586 --> 00:11:06,586 And they are often responsible 281 00:11:06,689 --> 00:11:08,206 for the entire economic success 282 00:11:08,310 --> 00:11:09,793 of their families. 283 00:11:09,896 --> 00:11:11,950 What are they gonna do if they get in trouble? 284 00:11:12,034 --> 00:11:14,758 What if all of this goes away because they complained? 285 00:11:14,862 --> 00:11:17,655 And so you spend your time working, 286 00:11:17,758 --> 00:11:19,931 hoping that people don't poke the soft spots 287 00:11:20,034 --> 00:11:21,534 on your body and in your brain. 288 00:11:22,241 --> 00:11:24,103 Dan! Dan. 289 00:11:24,206 --> 00:11:26,467 Here, Leon, start to the green room. They're there... 290 00:11:26,551 --> 00:11:27,689 On All That, 291 00:11:27,793 --> 00:11:29,068 what really made me feel 292 00:11:29,172 --> 00:11:30,965 the most uncomfortable were... 293 00:11:31,689 --> 00:11:32,517 The leotards. 294 00:11:34,172 --> 00:11:36,379 I mean, I was just a growing boy 295 00:11:36,482 --> 00:11:38,758 trying to, you know, fit into my body 296 00:11:38,862 --> 00:11:40,551 and it was just out there 297 00:11:40,655 --> 00:11:44,068 for everyone to kind of look at and... 298 00:11:44,172 --> 00:11:45,448 Judge me or... 299 00:11:45,551 --> 00:11:47,758 You know, I just felt very exposed. 300 00:11:49,896 --> 00:11:51,965 So one week we get a script, 301 00:11:52,068 --> 00:11:55,965 there's a new character for me on All That named Nose Boy. 302 00:11:56,068 --> 00:11:58,275 Naturally, I'm in a superhero costume 303 00:11:58,379 --> 00:12:01,103 which is just tights and underwear. 304 00:12:01,206 --> 00:12:03,275 You know, what was different about this... 305 00:12:03,379 --> 00:12:05,053 They... They gave me a prosthetic nose, 306 00:12:05,137 --> 00:12:07,137 like a enlarged nose... 307 00:12:07,241 --> 00:12:09,862 And they put this same nose on the costume. 308 00:12:11,965 --> 00:12:13,724 I'm Captain Big Nose. 309 00:12:13,827 --> 00:12:15,398 What are your special powers? 310 00:12:15,482 --> 00:12:16,743 You can't help but notice 311 00:12:16,827 --> 00:12:19,793 that it looks like penis and testicles on my shoulders. 312 00:12:23,103 --> 00:12:24,640 This is a child playing this role. 313 00:12:24,724 --> 00:12:27,275 And he is playing it for other children. 314 00:12:27,379 --> 00:12:29,931 His audience is kids as young as six. 315 00:12:30,034 --> 00:12:31,655 I'm allergic to asteroids. 316 00:12:39,310 --> 00:12:43,137 And the joke in that sketch is effectively a joke. 317 00:12:43,241 --> 00:12:45,413 It a joke for children. 318 00:12:47,034 --> 00:12:48,157 I'm just looking back at it, 319 00:12:48,241 --> 00:12:49,724 it's just very strange. 320 00:12:51,068 --> 00:12:52,768 Frankly, it was just uncomfortable. 321 00:12:53,551 --> 00:12:55,051 In the... The moments to myself 322 00:12:55,103 --> 00:12:57,000 you would just be thinking, like... 323 00:12:57,103 --> 00:12:59,088 "Hey, this is what we gotta do be on the show. 324 00:12:59,172 --> 00:13:01,522 To stay in the cast and stay in the good graces 325 00:13:01,551 --> 00:13:03,301 of the people that were higher up." 326 00:13:04,620 --> 00:13:06,847 Some of the child actors felt like they could not push back, 327 00:13:06,931 --> 00:13:09,103 especially with Dan Schneider. 328 00:13:09,206 --> 00:13:12,103 And so I always did my best to be a trooper. 329 00:13:12,206 --> 00:13:13,241 Never complain. 330 00:13:13,344 --> 00:13:14,517 'Cause we knew, 331 00:13:14,620 --> 00:13:16,413 being close to Dan, 332 00:13:16,517 --> 00:13:20,620 could mean an extra level of, uh, success. 333 00:13:20,724 --> 00:13:23,758 It was important to be... To be on his good side. 334 00:13:23,862 --> 00:13:26,655 And he made it known who was on his good side. 335 00:13:36,379 --> 00:13:39,413 One day, uh, the producers called my house... 336 00:13:41,103 --> 00:13:43,137 And spoke to my parents and said, 337 00:13:43,689 --> 00:13:44,482 "Hey..." 338 00:13:46,241 --> 00:13:48,137 "Katrina's getting too fat. 339 00:13:48,241 --> 00:13:50,891 We already have a fat one. She can't be the fat one." 340 00:13:52,241 --> 00:13:55,275 They go, "Well, uh, she's a dancer. 341 00:13:55,379 --> 00:13:58,000 She's in dance class, like, six hours a day. 342 00:13:58,103 --> 00:13:59,703 There's nothing more we can do." 343 00:14:00,206 --> 00:14:01,068 I mean... 344 00:14:01,827 --> 00:14:04,000 That stuck with me. 345 00:14:04,103 --> 00:14:05,931 "You can't be the fat one." Like... 346 00:14:06,034 --> 00:14:09,965 I still hear those words in my head to this day. 347 00:14:10,068 --> 00:14:11,318 And it's funny because... 348 00:14:12,275 --> 00:14:13,862 Shortly after that call, 349 00:14:13,965 --> 00:14:16,034 I went through puberty. 350 00:14:16,137 --> 00:14:19,310 And then the producers freak out 351 00:14:19,413 --> 00:14:21,137 because now I look like a woman 352 00:14:21,241 --> 00:14:23,206 and I'm not little girlish anymore, 353 00:14:23,310 --> 00:14:25,482 so then that became an issue. 354 00:14:25,586 --> 00:14:28,206 And then after that I'm sort of like... 355 00:14:28,310 --> 00:14:29,655 Edged out... 356 00:14:31,827 --> 00:14:34,896 By, like, a younger version of me. 357 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,655 Please welcome ten-year-old Amanda. 358 00:14:41,793 --> 00:14:46,241 I remember one day I was at the Laugh Factory. 359 00:14:46,344 --> 00:14:48,862 It's a really famous comedy club on Sunset. 360 00:14:48,965 --> 00:14:51,551 They would have workshops for kids. 361 00:14:51,655 --> 00:14:55,413 Couple of Nickelodeon people had gone to support Katrina. 362 00:14:55,517 --> 00:14:57,896 Brian Robbins and Dan Schneider came 363 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,743 and I said, "You gotta check out this girl. 364 00:14:59,827 --> 00:15:01,137 She's really amazing." 365 00:15:01,241 --> 00:15:03,310 And the girl was Amanda Bynes. 366 00:15:03,413 --> 00:15:06,620 The other day, I got a pimple. 367 00:15:06,724 --> 00:15:09,137 I remember Amanda doing a routine 368 00:15:09,241 --> 00:15:12,586 about having a pimple that she couldn't pop 369 00:15:12,689 --> 00:15:14,724 on the inside of her nose. 370 00:15:14,827 --> 00:15:16,758 I mean, what's the deal? 371 00:15:16,862 --> 00:15:19,034 Is God sitting up there in heaven 372 00:15:19,137 --> 00:15:21,241 looking down at me and saying, 373 00:15:21,344 --> 00:15:24,068 "I think I'll give her a challenge." 374 00:15:27,724 --> 00:15:29,524 And I remember thinking... 375 00:15:29,827 --> 00:15:31,260 "You're like ten. You do not have a pimple 376 00:15:31,344 --> 00:15:32,329 on the inside of your nose." 377 00:15:32,413 --> 00:15:34,586 But that was a really kickass routine 378 00:15:34,689 --> 00:15:35,517 and it was... 379 00:15:36,413 --> 00:15:37,793 Pretty flawless. 380 00:15:37,896 --> 00:15:40,196 Dan saw her and, like, immediately... 381 00:15:41,206 --> 00:15:42,256 Knew she'd be a star. 382 00:15:42,896 --> 00:15:43,812 Over the '90s, 383 00:15:43,896 --> 00:15:46,655 Dan's star is rising in Nickelodeon. 384 00:15:46,758 --> 00:15:48,260 But what takes him to the next level 385 00:15:48,344 --> 00:15:50,965 is when he discovers Amanda Bynes. 386 00:15:51,068 --> 00:15:52,931 And he recognizes her talent 387 00:15:53,034 --> 00:15:55,103 and he wants her in All That immediately. 388 00:15:55,206 --> 00:15:57,906 Hi, hi, everyone. It's me, Amanda. 389 00:15:58,827 --> 00:16:02,482 Amanda was absolutely natural. 390 00:16:02,586 --> 00:16:04,206 Her timing was impeccable. 391 00:16:04,689 --> 00:16:06,034 Uh, very physical. 392 00:16:06,137 --> 00:16:08,275 Then my bully kicked on me at school. 393 00:16:08,379 --> 00:16:11,029 I discovered that music could be used as self-defense. 394 00:16:11,068 --> 00:16:12,965 Oh, well, how? 395 00:16:13,275 --> 00:16:14,068 Hmm? 396 00:16:17,206 --> 00:16:19,275 We had to go to school on set. 397 00:16:19,379 --> 00:16:21,229 I mean, I was allowed to go to school. 398 00:16:21,379 --> 00:16:22,329 - How many hours? - Three. 399 00:16:22,413 --> 00:16:23,517 - Three? - A day. 400 00:16:23,620 --> 00:16:24,605 - Can you share what-- - Go talk to the teacher. 401 00:16:24,689 --> 00:16:25,931 Okay. 402 00:16:26,034 --> 00:16:27,965 And so there would be times 403 00:16:28,068 --> 00:16:29,818 where Amanda would just be missing. 404 00:16:32,724 --> 00:16:34,157 And a lot of times we would just hear 405 00:16:34,241 --> 00:16:36,620 that she would be with Dan, 406 00:16:36,724 --> 00:16:39,034 pitching ideas and writing. 407 00:16:40,206 --> 00:16:41,724 We've seen them grow closer 408 00:16:41,827 --> 00:16:44,077 - to each other on set. - So, uh... 409 00:16:45,517 --> 00:16:46,655 Leon is the man. 410 00:16:46,758 --> 00:16:48,053 See what we're doing here, um... 411 00:16:48,137 --> 00:16:51,206 The law was that a parent or guardian 412 00:16:51,310 --> 00:16:53,862 had to be with us at all times. 413 00:16:53,965 --> 00:16:55,896 Parents on All That... 414 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:58,206 I would say they tried to stay out the way. 415 00:16:58,310 --> 00:16:59,827 Okay, guys. Ready for ya. 416 00:16:59,931 --> 00:17:02,862 With us all being, uh, novices... 417 00:17:02,965 --> 00:17:05,448 With some of us, this was out first job. 418 00:17:05,551 --> 00:17:07,551 It was just in our best interest 419 00:17:07,655 --> 00:17:09,793 to kind of go with the flow. 420 00:17:10,275 --> 00:17:11,344 But... 421 00:17:11,448 --> 00:17:13,827 Amanda Bynes' parents were very hands on 422 00:17:13,931 --> 00:17:14,862 with her career. 423 00:17:14,965 --> 00:17:17,379 Um, specifically her dad. 424 00:17:17,482 --> 00:17:20,172 I think Amanda's dad kind of treated her 425 00:17:20,275 --> 00:17:22,758 like a wind-up doll, like, she had... 426 00:17:24,275 --> 00:17:28,517 Really a lot of pressure and high expectations from him. 427 00:17:28,620 --> 00:17:29,640 - Say, "Hands up." - Hands up. 428 00:17:29,724 --> 00:17:31,424 Say, "Kids, hands up." 429 00:17:31,793 --> 00:17:33,896 His presence was always felt. 430 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,379 A big part of that was his relationship 431 00:17:36,482 --> 00:17:37,758 with Dan Schneider. 432 00:17:39,344 --> 00:17:41,931 They carefully crafted Amanda's career. 433 00:17:43,379 --> 00:17:46,275 It was enviable for a lot of the cast members. 434 00:17:46,379 --> 00:17:48,482 When Amanda joined the show... 435 00:17:50,103 --> 00:17:52,655 Oh, I had less and less and less 436 00:17:52,758 --> 00:17:54,310 and then no time with Dan. 437 00:17:57,965 --> 00:17:59,241 So... 438 00:17:59,344 --> 00:18:02,068 The new favorite had arrived. I was out. 439 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,172 So I felt 440 00:18:10,275 --> 00:18:12,260 now I don't need to do this anymore, I can just... 441 00:18:12,344 --> 00:18:13,172 Go to college. 442 00:18:14,034 --> 00:18:14,862 So I did. 443 00:18:16,068 --> 00:18:18,000 And then maybe a year later... 444 00:18:19,103 --> 00:18:20,103 Someone told me, 445 00:18:20,206 --> 00:18:23,068 "Oh, have you seen The Amanda Bynes Show?" 446 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:25,827 And I was like, "What? 447 00:18:27,758 --> 00:18:28,724 That makes sense." 448 00:18:28,827 --> 00:18:31,000 Amanda! Amanda! 449 00:18:31,103 --> 00:18:34,241 Amanda Bynes' physical comedy really shines 450 00:18:34,344 --> 00:18:36,344 in that first episode. 451 00:18:36,448 --> 00:18:38,709 - Hey, it's Amanda! - And it was her big break, 452 00:18:38,793 --> 00:18:40,643 and it was Dan Schneider's big break. 453 00:18:43,931 --> 00:18:45,122 And this is actually the first time 454 00:18:45,206 --> 00:18:48,000 that Dan Schneider's name is listed as a creator. 455 00:18:48,103 --> 00:18:49,467 This gave him a whole new level 456 00:18:49,551 --> 00:18:51,034 of control and power 457 00:18:51,137 --> 00:18:53,487 and there would be consequences to that later on. 458 00:18:53,827 --> 00:18:56,000 - Hey! Look at you. - Oh! 459 00:18:56,103 --> 00:18:58,329 - I like your outfit. - Good to see you. Yeah, I like yours too. 460 00:18:58,413 --> 00:19:00,793 Dan Schneider's decision to have Amanda... 461 00:19:01,448 --> 00:19:03,413 Be the star of the show... 462 00:19:03,517 --> 00:19:05,482 Is forward thinking is a lot of ways. 463 00:19:05,586 --> 00:19:07,896 A lot of adult female comedians do not... 464 00:19:08,482 --> 00:19:09,329 Get their own shows 465 00:19:09,413 --> 00:19:11,758 without jumping through a million hoops. 466 00:19:11,862 --> 00:19:15,137 There's usually two roles that girls occupy in Hollywood. 467 00:19:15,241 --> 00:19:18,137 One is super innocent, really sweet. 468 00:19:18,241 --> 00:19:20,896 Like Shirley Temple, cute, young. 469 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,450 And then the other side is... 470 00:19:23,620 --> 00:19:27,275 Hypersexualized, built for male consumption. 471 00:19:29,241 --> 00:19:31,517 Amanda Bynes was like a new deviation 472 00:19:31,620 --> 00:19:35,310 as a young actress in Hollywood. 473 00:19:35,413 --> 00:19:36,689 And I hereby sentence you 474 00:19:36,793 --> 00:19:38,655 to be chased by an unpredictable man 475 00:19:38,758 --> 00:19:39,827 in a gorilla suit! 476 00:19:39,931 --> 00:19:42,241 Really personality driven. Really funny. 477 00:19:42,344 --> 00:19:44,413 Get that done! 478 00:19:44,517 --> 00:19:47,137 For Amanda it's a spotlight on her comedic talent, 479 00:19:47,241 --> 00:19:49,655 which is something that is kind of rare to see. 480 00:19:49,758 --> 00:19:52,827 Ah, that's good. 481 00:19:52,931 --> 00:19:55,413 You would think that for this kind of 482 00:19:55,517 --> 00:19:57,551 strong female lead to be celebrated, 483 00:19:57,655 --> 00:19:59,955 you would have a lot of women behind the scenes. 484 00:20:00,068 --> 00:20:01,586 In reality... 485 00:20:01,689 --> 00:20:03,310 Female writers on The Amanda Show 486 00:20:03,413 --> 00:20:05,068 told us that this experience 487 00:20:05,172 --> 00:20:07,482 was really one of the most disturbing 488 00:20:07,586 --> 00:20:09,344 in their careers. 489 00:20:09,448 --> 00:20:14,586 Working for Dan was like being in an abusive relationship. 490 00:20:27,655 --> 00:20:28,793 At the time, 491 00:20:28,896 --> 00:20:31,551 there weren't a lot of positions for women 492 00:20:31,655 --> 00:20:32,931 in sketch comedy. 493 00:20:33,034 --> 00:20:35,827 It was very hard to navigate 494 00:20:35,931 --> 00:20:37,931 when you knew the opportunities 495 00:20:38,034 --> 00:20:40,068 for women were fewer. 496 00:20:40,172 --> 00:20:44,310 You knew you were going in for the one spot. 497 00:20:44,413 --> 00:20:46,758 This was way back in 1999. 498 00:20:46,862 --> 00:20:50,172 There were forums where people would talk about writing 499 00:20:50,275 --> 00:20:51,502 and it was in one of those groups, 500 00:20:51,586 --> 00:20:53,286 a television-comedy writing group. 501 00:20:54,172 --> 00:20:55,689 Dan Schneider was in that group 502 00:20:55,793 --> 00:20:57,743 and he had said that he was working on this new 503 00:20:57,827 --> 00:20:59,019 television show for Nickelodeon. 504 00:20:59,103 --> 00:21:01,620 So I just took a shot and I asked him 505 00:21:01,724 --> 00:21:03,068 if he would read my work. 506 00:21:03,172 --> 00:21:05,241 And the story that he told me later 507 00:21:05,344 --> 00:21:08,310 was that Dan gave them to his Writer's Assistant 508 00:21:08,413 --> 00:21:09,847 and said, you know, "Read through these 509 00:21:09,931 --> 00:21:12,344 and rate them funniest on top." 510 00:21:12,448 --> 00:21:14,648 He was surprised to find that mine was on top 511 00:21:14,655 --> 00:21:16,793 and that's what prompted him to call me. 512 00:21:19,482 --> 00:21:22,379 I was actually sitting at my desk at work... 513 00:21:23,517 --> 00:21:25,034 ...when the producers called me 514 00:21:25,137 --> 00:21:27,344 and told me that, you know, 515 00:21:27,448 --> 00:21:29,088 "Congratulations, we're offering you 516 00:21:29,172 --> 00:21:31,379 a Staff Writer position on The Amanda Show." 517 00:21:31,482 --> 00:21:32,743 This was, like, a dream come true. 518 00:21:32,827 --> 00:21:35,724 I had been in LA for seven years 519 00:21:35,827 --> 00:21:39,379 and so it felt very satisfying 520 00:21:39,482 --> 00:21:43,379 that, um, someone was gonna pay me 521 00:21:43,793 --> 00:21:45,689 to write comedy. 522 00:21:47,413 --> 00:21:50,241 I remember speaking to the line producer 523 00:21:50,344 --> 00:21:53,068 and she said that I was going to have to 524 00:21:53,172 --> 00:21:57,241 split a salary with a writer that I did not know. 525 00:21:57,344 --> 00:21:59,862 So they were getting two for the price of one. 526 00:21:59,965 --> 00:22:01,655 They were going to hire two woman 527 00:22:01,758 --> 00:22:03,413 and have them share a salary. 528 00:22:03,517 --> 00:22:05,667 And I never saw it happen to any of the men. 529 00:22:05,724 --> 00:22:10,034 I was like, "Well, I'm excited, I get to stop temping." 530 00:22:10,137 --> 00:22:11,241 This was my dream job. 531 00:22:11,344 --> 00:22:12,433 I mean, this is what I wanted. 532 00:22:12,517 --> 00:22:14,167 This is what I worked so hard for. 533 00:22:15,034 --> 00:22:16,931 I'm not about to turn it down. 534 00:22:17,034 --> 00:22:19,019 I thought to myself, "Don't be a complainer. 535 00:22:19,103 --> 00:22:22,137 You know, do whatever you have to do to get this job." 536 00:22:25,862 --> 00:22:29,448 I remember the early days being a lot of fun. 537 00:22:29,551 --> 00:22:33,103 We were on the Paramount lot, which was very exciting. 538 00:22:33,206 --> 00:22:34,482 To get to walk around, 539 00:22:34,586 --> 00:22:36,655 it felt like, you know, Hollywood. 540 00:22:37,827 --> 00:22:38,881 My first week on the job, 541 00:22:38,965 --> 00:22:40,827 I got to meet my writing partner. 542 00:22:40,931 --> 00:22:42,896 Christy's very easy to get along with. 543 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:44,896 I mean, I liked her immediately. 544 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,398 She was nice and fun 545 00:22:46,482 --> 00:22:49,103 and those early days were great! 546 00:22:49,206 --> 00:22:50,034 They were great. 547 00:22:51,482 --> 00:22:54,000 It was early on, when we first started, 548 00:22:54,103 --> 00:22:57,379 that Dan said he didn't think women were funny. 549 00:22:58,586 --> 00:23:00,157 He said women can't write funny. 550 00:23:00,241 --> 00:23:03,448 He challenged us to name a funny female writer. 551 00:23:03,551 --> 00:23:04,551 And he said this 552 00:23:04,655 --> 00:23:06,827 to the writers in the writers' room. 553 00:23:06,931 --> 00:23:10,137 And that was my first indication of trouble. 554 00:23:10,241 --> 00:23:12,847 That maybe this guy didn't really value women in the writers' room. 555 00:23:12,931 --> 00:23:15,482 And later he had said that, 556 00:23:15,586 --> 00:23:18,364 "Hey, do you mind that I refer to you and Christy as the girls? 557 00:23:18,448 --> 00:23:20,502 Are the girls in the room? Where are the girls?" 558 00:23:20,586 --> 00:23:22,172 And we both were, like, "No." 559 00:23:22,275 --> 00:23:25,275 And he said, "Oh, good. Because I can't stand girls 560 00:23:25,379 --> 00:23:27,379 that are uptight about things like that." 561 00:23:27,896 --> 00:23:31,793 And when he said that, I knew that next time 562 00:23:31,896 --> 00:23:33,502 this guy asks me if I mind something, 563 00:23:33,586 --> 00:23:35,186 there's a right and wrong answer. 564 00:23:35,241 --> 00:23:36,758 And thank God I answered right. 565 00:23:39,551 --> 00:23:41,448 Dan ran the writers' room. 566 00:23:41,551 --> 00:23:45,034 He was there anytime we were doing any work 567 00:23:45,137 --> 00:23:48,034 and he was very playful. 568 00:23:48,137 --> 00:23:50,517 We would laugh and joke around 569 00:23:50,620 --> 00:23:53,827 and being dirty was part of the silliness. 570 00:23:53,931 --> 00:23:57,413 Hello, citizens. My name is Penelope Taynt. 571 00:23:57,517 --> 00:23:59,448 So Penelope Taynt, 572 00:23:59,551 --> 00:24:02,448 um, is a character that Dan created. 573 00:24:02,551 --> 00:24:04,793 - My name is Penelope Taynt. - Yeah, I know. 574 00:24:04,896 --> 00:24:07,296 He came up with the name Penelope Taynt. 575 00:24:07,344 --> 00:24:08,812 The taint is the part of the body 576 00:24:08,896 --> 00:24:10,571 that's between the penis and the anus. 577 00:24:10,655 --> 00:24:12,758 It's that skin there, that's the taint. 578 00:24:12,862 --> 00:24:14,916 And Dan had said to us in the writers' room, 579 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,862 "Don't tell what this word really means." 580 00:24:17,965 --> 00:24:19,665 He wanted us to keep that a secret. 581 00:24:19,689 --> 00:24:22,068 I remember someone from Nickelodeon 582 00:24:22,172 --> 00:24:23,467 sitting with us and saying like, 583 00:24:23,551 --> 00:24:27,034 "Oh, does this mean, you know, this dirty thing?" 584 00:24:27,137 --> 00:24:30,862 And Dan was like, "No. Why would you think that's, like, tainted? 585 00:24:30,965 --> 00:24:32,364 Like you've tainted something." 586 00:24:32,448 --> 00:24:33,798 And they were like, "Okay." 587 00:24:34,379 --> 00:24:36,137 Man, that is power. 588 00:24:37,206 --> 00:24:38,448 That is power. 589 00:24:38,551 --> 00:24:40,501 That you can just say you want something 590 00:24:40,586 --> 00:24:41,965 and it's done. 591 00:24:42,931 --> 00:24:44,031 That's what I thought. 592 00:24:44,862 --> 00:24:46,413 So, it got on the show 593 00:24:46,517 --> 00:24:48,502 and it's one of those things where it's like, "Ooh." 594 00:24:48,586 --> 00:24:50,827 You know, like, "Eh." 595 00:24:50,931 --> 00:24:52,206 It's a young girl. 596 00:24:52,310 --> 00:24:55,068 And bless Amanda and bless The Amanda Show. 597 00:24:55,172 --> 00:24:58,068 In one scene, you know, she's praying 598 00:24:58,172 --> 00:24:59,448 on a twin bed. 599 00:24:59,551 --> 00:25:02,931 There's something so slimy about connecting this, like, 600 00:25:03,862 --> 00:25:06,310 sexualized genitalia joke 601 00:25:06,413 --> 00:25:10,931 with a little girl who's portraying a little girl too. 602 00:25:11,034 --> 00:25:14,448 It was clear that there was a permissibility 603 00:25:14,551 --> 00:25:17,241 around these sexualized jokes with children. 604 00:25:17,344 --> 00:25:18,778 It was par for the course. 605 00:25:18,862 --> 00:25:21,241 Like, strange things amused Dan 606 00:25:21,344 --> 00:25:24,094 and that was just one of the things he thought was funny. 607 00:25:24,206 --> 00:25:26,724 He liked to play pranks and jokes, 608 00:25:26,827 --> 00:25:30,379 which at first seemed fun. 609 00:25:30,482 --> 00:25:33,605 In the beginning, I would see, you know, an instant message pop up. 610 00:25:33,689 --> 00:25:35,931 Dan would send a message 611 00:25:36,034 --> 00:25:37,724 for you to say out loud. 612 00:25:37,827 --> 00:25:39,172 Scream "hammers." 613 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,931 And you scream it. 614 00:25:42,034 --> 00:25:45,103 And then it would be more degrading, like, 615 00:25:45,206 --> 00:25:46,379 scream, "I'm an idiot," 616 00:25:46,724 --> 00:25:48,344 or "slut." 617 00:25:48,448 --> 00:25:51,275 And if you didn't, he would send you the message again, 618 00:25:51,379 --> 00:25:53,413 caps, exclamation points, 619 00:25:53,517 --> 00:25:55,862 he would scream out, "Say it." until you did. 620 00:25:56,724 --> 00:25:59,172 One time Dan said, 621 00:25:59,275 --> 00:26:04,517 "I'll give you $300 to eat two pints of ice cream in 30 minutes." 622 00:26:04,620 --> 00:26:05,896 And I'm like, "Yeah." 623 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,655 I've got no money, I've got half a salary, 624 00:26:08,758 --> 00:26:11,896 I will absolutely eat two pints of ice cream in 30 minutes. 625 00:26:12,896 --> 00:26:14,000 And I did, 626 00:26:14,103 --> 00:26:16,655 and I was throwing up afterwards but it was fine. 627 00:26:18,068 --> 00:26:19,482 Then the money didn't come 628 00:26:19,586 --> 00:26:21,655 and I knew he must've forgotten about it. 629 00:26:21,758 --> 00:26:23,558 So one day he said... 630 00:26:23,620 --> 00:26:25,413 ... "Somebody kill that fly for $30." 631 00:26:25,517 --> 00:26:27,467 And I go, "Should I add it to your tab?" 632 00:26:29,655 --> 00:26:31,724 Dan took me into his office 633 00:26:31,827 --> 00:26:36,103 and he said, "How dare you accuse me of not making good on my bets?" 634 00:26:36,206 --> 00:26:39,571 And I was like, "No, no, no, no. I was, I was just kinda kidding around." 635 00:26:39,655 --> 00:26:44,931 He had, um, fostered this very casual, fun atmosphere, 636 00:26:45,034 --> 00:26:48,068 but I felt that Dan could be very volatile 637 00:26:48,172 --> 00:26:52,034 and could turn any moment. 638 00:26:52,793 --> 00:26:55,551 I was... I was scared. 639 00:27:08,965 --> 00:27:11,502 In a lot of ways, Nickelodeon was creating this 640 00:27:11,586 --> 00:27:13,329 culture where it was a mini Hollywood. 641 00:27:13,413 --> 00:27:14,793 Like a Hollywood for kids 642 00:27:14,896 --> 00:27:17,226 where all these actors are kind of competing for the same roles, 643 00:27:17,310 --> 00:27:18,329 they all know each other 644 00:27:18,413 --> 00:27:21,206 and they are in their own little ecosystem. 645 00:27:21,310 --> 00:27:22,571 - Are you nominated? - Yes. 646 00:27:22,655 --> 00:27:23,709 How do you feel about that? 647 00:27:23,793 --> 00:27:25,068 Um, it's real exciting. 648 00:27:25,172 --> 00:27:26,364 I'm honored to be nominated. 649 00:27:26,448 --> 00:27:28,502 I don't think I'm gonna win, but it's still cool. 650 00:27:28,586 --> 00:27:30,329 Something that epitomizes that really well 651 00:27:30,413 --> 00:27:31,502 is the Kids' Choice Awards, 652 00:27:31,586 --> 00:27:34,965 which is almost like the kids' version of the Oscars. 653 00:27:36,103 --> 00:27:40,068 And the Kids' Choice is Amanda Bynes! 654 00:27:40,172 --> 00:27:42,655 Amanda Bynes gets the Kids' Choice Awards. 655 00:27:42,758 --> 00:27:44,551 She was hugely successful 656 00:27:44,655 --> 00:27:49,724 and was becoming one of these massive, massive A-list stars. 657 00:27:49,827 --> 00:27:52,172 Thank you all! Oh, my God! This is so exciting! 658 00:27:52,275 --> 00:27:56,344 Okay. I want to say thank you to Nickelodeon, Brian Robbins, Dan Schneider. 659 00:27:56,448 --> 00:27:58,931 The Amanda Show is on Nickelodeon. 660 00:27:59,034 --> 00:28:01,398 She was giving interviews, she was on talk shows, 661 00:28:01,482 --> 00:28:03,482 she was everywhere. 662 00:28:03,586 --> 00:28:05,965 Dan Schneider was very responsible 663 00:28:06,068 --> 00:28:08,068 for Amanda Bynes' career at that point 664 00:28:08,172 --> 00:28:10,379 and they were very tied to each other 665 00:28:10,482 --> 00:28:12,103 and I think she trusted him. 666 00:28:12,206 --> 00:28:14,310 My name is Raquel Lee Bolleau 667 00:28:14,413 --> 00:28:17,758 and I was on the first season of The Amanda Show. 668 00:28:17,862 --> 00:28:18,965 Mrs. Shane... 669 00:28:19,068 --> 00:28:21,724 The Amanda Show was huge. It was huge! 670 00:28:21,827 --> 00:28:26,034 We had fans coming and wanting to, like, see us every episode. 671 00:28:26,137 --> 00:28:30,758 As a 12-year-old girl, I was over the moon. 672 00:28:30,862 --> 00:28:32,724 I was so excited. 673 00:28:32,827 --> 00:28:34,295 We'd be out and people would say, 674 00:28:34,379 --> 00:28:37,206 "Oh, my goodness. You're that girl on The Amanda Show." 675 00:28:37,310 --> 00:28:38,896 It was a pretty big show. 676 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,250 There was Amanda, of course, and there was me and Drake. 677 00:28:42,689 --> 00:28:45,965 Him and I were so silly on this show. 678 00:28:47,724 --> 00:28:49,275 Amanda was the star. 679 00:28:49,379 --> 00:28:55,137 So, I think we both knew that we weren't the stars of the show very early on. 680 00:28:55,241 --> 00:28:56,467 She's the star so she gets 681 00:28:56,551 --> 00:28:59,068 the extra, extra handy-dandy equipment. 682 00:29:00,034 --> 00:29:02,862 On The Amanda Show, Dan is the king maker. 683 00:29:02,965 --> 00:29:05,655 He is the one who is deciding who gets a spin-off, 684 00:29:05,758 --> 00:29:07,793 who gets the most lines. 685 00:29:07,896 --> 00:29:09,724 If you are on Dan's bad side, 686 00:29:09,827 --> 00:29:12,103 you kind of could kiss your career goodbye. 687 00:29:12,206 --> 00:29:13,506 You wanted Dan to like you 688 00:29:13,586 --> 00:29:15,536 'cause if he didn't, he was mean to you. 689 00:29:16,103 --> 00:29:17,482 It's my 13th birthday. 690 00:29:17,586 --> 00:29:20,275 People brought me this big, big cake, 691 00:29:20,379 --> 00:29:21,517 like, a massive cake. 692 00:29:22,620 --> 00:29:24,226 It was great to be able to share the cake 693 00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:27,103 with the whole crew and everyone else, 694 00:29:27,206 --> 00:29:30,172 but it was told to me, "Dan's really upset." 695 00:29:30,275 --> 00:29:32,310 Like, "Why did you get her that cake?" 696 00:29:32,413 --> 00:29:33,663 Like, "That's a big cake. 697 00:29:33,758 --> 00:29:35,295 She didn't need that big of a cake." 698 00:29:35,379 --> 00:29:36,586 And I was just like... 699 00:29:37,758 --> 00:29:39,517 And I really... I felt it. 700 00:29:42,137 --> 00:29:44,157 Of course, as a parent you want to speak up, 701 00:29:44,241 --> 00:29:47,827 but then I just didn't want Raquel to face any backlash 702 00:29:47,931 --> 00:29:51,172 for any behaviors that I had, uh, done. 703 00:29:52,068 --> 00:29:54,034 I remember Raquel saying to me 704 00:29:54,137 --> 00:29:56,379 she felt that he may have favored, 705 00:29:56,482 --> 00:30:00,206 uh, Drake and Amanda more than her. 706 00:30:00,310 --> 00:30:05,689 I remember Dan and Amanda Bynes being very close on The Amanda Show 707 00:30:05,793 --> 00:30:09,344 and I think very few people made Dan laugh. 708 00:30:10,310 --> 00:30:13,310 You know, and I think she did. 709 00:30:13,413 --> 00:30:16,379 In rehearsal, she would say funny things 710 00:30:16,482 --> 00:30:17,896 and do funny things. 711 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,655 Uh, yes, this is your doctor. Yes, Doctor... 712 00:30:25,758 --> 00:30:27,965 I definitely saw Amanda 713 00:30:28,068 --> 00:30:31,379 being very close physically with Dan. 714 00:30:31,482 --> 00:30:34,655 There were many times that I saw Amanda 715 00:30:34,758 --> 00:30:36,482 sitting behind him, hugging him 716 00:30:36,586 --> 00:30:41,137 or giving him, like, a neck massage or whatever. 717 00:30:41,241 --> 00:30:43,965 Dan and Amanda had a close relationship 718 00:30:44,068 --> 00:30:47,931 and I didn't think anything different than that. 719 00:30:48,034 --> 00:30:49,965 The hot tub scene, 720 00:30:50,068 --> 00:30:52,206 though, I thought was always a little odd. 721 00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:54,502 I am the executive producer and I'm the headliner. 722 00:30:54,586 --> 00:30:55,847 You actually wrote the words 723 00:30:55,931 --> 00:30:57,260 we're saying to each other right now. 724 00:30:57,344 --> 00:30:58,275 Uh, yes. 725 00:30:58,379 --> 00:31:01,068 When you watch the video, it's Amanda Bynes, 726 00:31:01,172 --> 00:31:03,241 clearly very young, wearing a swimsuit 727 00:31:03,344 --> 00:31:04,275 in a hot tub 728 00:31:04,379 --> 00:31:06,655 and next to her is Dan Schneider 729 00:31:07,137 --> 00:31:08,068 fully clothed. 730 00:31:09,310 --> 00:31:10,758 And he's kinda saying, 731 00:31:10,862 --> 00:31:12,862 I created this situation. 732 00:31:12,965 --> 00:31:14,743 I am the reason we are in this hot tub. 733 00:31:14,827 --> 00:31:16,241 I am pulling the strings. 734 00:31:16,344 --> 00:31:17,778 Now since you're the executive producer 735 00:31:17,862 --> 00:31:19,448 of the show, can I have a raise? 736 00:31:20,413 --> 00:31:21,448 No. 737 00:31:21,551 --> 00:31:24,241 Maybe at the time people viewed it as comedy, 738 00:31:24,344 --> 00:31:25,931 but I think now some people 739 00:31:26,034 --> 00:31:28,448 are very uncomfortable with the implication. 740 00:31:28,551 --> 00:31:30,260 For me, looking back at The Amanda Show 741 00:31:30,344 --> 00:31:33,620 is really a kinda sad and strange experience. 742 00:31:33,724 --> 00:31:35,344 Knowing that as years went on 743 00:31:35,448 --> 00:31:36,467 Amanda and Dan's relationship 744 00:31:36,551 --> 00:31:39,000 would take a turn for the worse. 745 00:31:39,103 --> 00:31:41,103 It is also bittersweet to watch knowing 746 00:31:41,206 --> 00:31:43,571 what the women were dealing with behind the scenes. 747 00:31:43,655 --> 00:31:46,517 He became a worse and worse person to work for. 748 00:31:47,344 --> 00:31:49,758 Dan called me at home 749 00:31:49,862 --> 00:31:54,275 and he asked me if I was conspiring against the company. 750 00:31:55,379 --> 00:31:57,275 He said, "If I find out that you did, 751 00:31:57,379 --> 00:31:59,679 you're never gonna work for Nickelodeon again." 752 00:32:06,137 --> 00:32:08,787 Dan got worse and worse as the season got on. 753 00:32:08,862 --> 00:32:11,000 And because I was a first-time writer, 754 00:32:11,103 --> 00:32:13,931 I didn't know what was acceptable and not acceptable. 755 00:32:14,034 --> 00:32:17,413 And so Christy and I both did things that were uncomfortable. 756 00:32:19,586 --> 00:32:23,241 Dan was showing pornography on his computer screen. 757 00:32:23,344 --> 00:32:24,433 He'd asked me several times 758 00:32:24,517 --> 00:32:26,019 to massage him in the writers' room 759 00:32:26,103 --> 00:32:27,517 and in the studio. 760 00:32:27,620 --> 00:32:30,413 And he would say things sometimes, like, 761 00:32:30,517 --> 00:32:32,689 "Uh, can you please give me a massage? 762 00:32:32,793 --> 00:32:34,778 I'll put one of your sketches in the show." 763 00:32:34,862 --> 00:32:37,517 And he would always present it like a joke, you know? 764 00:32:37,620 --> 00:32:40,965 And he would be laughing while he said it, um, but... 765 00:32:41,068 --> 00:32:43,379 You always felt like disagreeing with Dan 766 00:32:43,482 --> 00:32:45,551 or saying... Or standing up for yourself 767 00:32:45,655 --> 00:32:47,305 could result in you getting fired. 768 00:32:49,206 --> 00:32:52,344 One of the worst one was, was we were in the writers' room 769 00:32:52,448 --> 00:32:55,482 and Christy was talking about high school, 770 00:32:55,586 --> 00:32:56,536 which is relevant because 771 00:32:56,620 --> 00:32:58,413 we're writing for a young girl, 772 00:32:58,517 --> 00:33:02,931 and Dan was just... Said, "You know what would be funny? 773 00:33:03,034 --> 00:33:06,103 If you leaned over the table 774 00:33:06,206 --> 00:33:07,881 and acted like you were being sodomized 775 00:33:07,965 --> 00:33:10,000 and told that story about high school." 776 00:33:12,551 --> 00:33:14,344 She said no at first 777 00:33:14,448 --> 00:33:17,260 and then he was kind of like, "Oh, come on, come on. It'd be so funny. Just do it. 778 00:33:17,344 --> 00:33:18,244 It'd be so funny." 779 00:33:18,310 --> 00:33:20,275 And everyone was kind of laughing too 780 00:33:20,379 --> 00:33:22,398 'cause he's making it, like, this big joke. 781 00:33:22,482 --> 00:33:23,743 She couldn't get out of it. 782 00:33:23,827 --> 00:33:25,177 You know, he's begging her. 783 00:33:27,758 --> 00:33:29,433 So she just leaned over the table and did 784 00:33:29,517 --> 00:33:30,965 what he asked her to do. 785 00:33:31,068 --> 00:33:33,965 Do you remember Dan asking you 786 00:33:34,068 --> 00:33:37,103 to, um, act out being sodomized? 787 00:33:37,206 --> 00:33:38,862 Ah, I'd rather not. 788 00:33:40,034 --> 00:33:41,206 I'd rather not. I... 789 00:33:42,310 --> 00:33:44,379 I don't wanna talk about that. 790 00:33:44,482 --> 00:33:45,502 I mean, it's not that I'm not, 791 00:33:45,586 --> 00:33:46,571 like, I'm not proud of it 792 00:33:46,655 --> 00:33:47,955 and I'm also, like, ugh... 793 00:33:48,482 --> 00:33:50,103 Thinking about it now, 794 00:33:50,827 --> 00:33:52,068 yeah, it's like... 795 00:33:52,172 --> 00:33:54,103 Oh, boy. I just think of that 796 00:33:54,206 --> 00:33:58,379 poor girl and what she had to, you know, go through. 797 00:33:58,965 --> 00:34:00,206 Um, yeah. 798 00:34:01,620 --> 00:34:04,379 And I would not do that today, 799 00:34:05,206 --> 00:34:07,206 but I did it then. 800 00:34:07,310 --> 00:34:10,034 Um, it was upsetting to watch 801 00:34:10,137 --> 00:34:13,482 because you know... I know, I knew Christy at this point 802 00:34:13,586 --> 00:34:15,586 and I didn't feel at all comfortable 803 00:34:16,275 --> 00:34:18,655 complaining to him about 804 00:34:18,758 --> 00:34:22,482 anything that might make him feel like, "Ugh, there's a girl in the room. 805 00:34:22,586 --> 00:34:24,517 She's killing the vibe." 806 00:34:24,620 --> 00:34:25,536 You don't want to be viewed 807 00:34:25,620 --> 00:34:28,068 as the person that can't take a joke. 808 00:34:28,965 --> 00:34:30,467 It was probably the wrongest thing 809 00:34:30,551 --> 00:34:31,812 I've ever seen happen to a woman in 810 00:34:31,896 --> 00:34:33,446 a professional environment ever. 811 00:34:35,413 --> 00:34:38,019 And then all of a sudden I had heard about mid-season, 812 00:34:38,103 --> 00:34:41,655 um, that having the writers split their salary 813 00:34:41,758 --> 00:34:44,551 was against the rules for the show. 814 00:34:44,655 --> 00:34:48,000 So I called the Writers Guild to ask them if that was true. 815 00:34:48,103 --> 00:34:50,753 Can, can there be teams on this show and they said no. 816 00:34:52,103 --> 00:34:53,364 Jenny told me this 817 00:34:53,448 --> 00:34:55,310 and I was going, like, "Wow. 818 00:34:55,413 --> 00:34:58,413 They were trying to pull a fast one." 819 00:35:02,793 --> 00:35:04,243 Dan called me at home 820 00:35:05,310 --> 00:35:07,862 and he asked me if I was 821 00:35:07,965 --> 00:35:09,793 conspiring against the company. 822 00:35:11,344 --> 00:35:13,896 He had found out that the guild was now 823 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,034 requiring him to pay for our separate salaries 824 00:35:17,137 --> 00:35:19,172 and he wanted to know if... 825 00:35:19,275 --> 00:35:21,053 If I was the one that made that happen. 826 00:35:21,137 --> 00:35:22,862 "'Cause if I find out that you did, 827 00:35:22,965 --> 00:35:24,916 you're never gonna work for Nickelodeon again 828 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,103 or for any Viacom project." 829 00:35:27,206 --> 00:35:30,931 I was terrified 'cause I'd never seen him quite that scary before 830 00:35:31,034 --> 00:35:34,724 and also, you know, angry too. 831 00:35:34,827 --> 00:35:38,862 He had gotten caught doing something ethically wrong 832 00:35:38,965 --> 00:35:42,000 and said, "If I find out you told on me, 833 00:35:42,103 --> 00:35:45,000 I'm going to do something even worse to you. 834 00:35:45,103 --> 00:35:46,503 You're not gonna work again." 835 00:35:48,689 --> 00:35:52,793 I think things started to change with Dan. 836 00:35:53,827 --> 00:35:55,344 You could feel his presence. 837 00:35:56,862 --> 00:36:00,000 When he walked on the set, the crew could feel it. 838 00:36:01,896 --> 00:36:05,241 He wasn't the happy guy making jokes anymore. 839 00:36:05,344 --> 00:36:07,620 There was a few times when he came down 840 00:36:07,724 --> 00:36:10,000 that he lit everybody up. 841 00:36:10,724 --> 00:36:12,068 Dan yelled a lot. 842 00:36:12,172 --> 00:36:13,724 Dan was like a tornado. 843 00:36:13,827 --> 00:36:15,793 He'd come in and, like, phew... 844 00:36:15,896 --> 00:36:18,931 You'd be like, "Wow. Okay. What just happened?" 845 00:36:19,034 --> 00:36:20,965 Dan showed up. 846 00:36:21,068 --> 00:36:23,931 The set would not feel the same when, when he would leave 847 00:36:24,034 --> 00:36:26,241 because, you know, I think 848 00:36:26,344 --> 00:36:29,482 because everybody was on their toes, scared. 849 00:36:30,620 --> 00:36:31,984 He could literally be nice 850 00:36:32,068 --> 00:36:33,418 and then mean and then nice 851 00:36:33,517 --> 00:36:35,122 and then mean, like, throughout the day. 852 00:36:35,206 --> 00:36:36,356 So one minute I'm like, 853 00:36:36,448 --> 00:36:38,536 "I've got Dan wrong. He's really nice. He's supportive." 854 00:36:38,620 --> 00:36:40,870 and then, like, an hour later I could be like, 855 00:36:41,172 --> 00:36:42,572 "This guy is scary as hell." 856 00:36:45,034 --> 00:36:49,724 We were all feeling, near the end, paranoid, 857 00:36:49,827 --> 00:36:52,758 uncomfortable, um... 858 00:36:52,862 --> 00:36:56,448 It was just a bad... It was just a bad vibe. 859 00:36:56,551 --> 00:37:01,379 We all felt like, you know, the axe could drop at any moment. 860 00:37:03,241 --> 00:37:05,310 It was our last week of work 861 00:37:05,413 --> 00:37:07,793 for Season one of The Amanda Show. 862 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,068 I had this meeting at my manager's office 863 00:37:12,172 --> 00:37:17,241 and, uh, by the time I got in my car to go back to the office, 864 00:37:17,793 --> 00:37:20,068 I had been fired. 865 00:37:20,172 --> 00:37:22,522 Dan, basically, owned all of your time. 866 00:37:22,620 --> 00:37:25,000 Your weekends, after work, 867 00:37:25,103 --> 00:37:29,689 and Christy had done two personal things during the season, like, 868 00:37:29,793 --> 00:37:32,758 she had gone to a concert on the weekend 869 00:37:32,862 --> 00:37:35,068 and she had friends over one night 870 00:37:35,172 --> 00:37:38,896 and she basically got fired for that. 871 00:37:40,344 --> 00:37:43,862 It just felt very vindictive that, um, 872 00:37:43,965 --> 00:37:48,482 it was three days, three more days of, of, of being paid. 873 00:37:48,586 --> 00:37:51,241 So I went back to temping and I had nothing. 874 00:37:56,620 --> 00:37:58,847 I went down to the studio to meet with Dan 875 00:37:58,931 --> 00:38:01,448 about Season two. He said, "Here's the deal. 876 00:38:01,551 --> 00:38:04,051 We're bringing you back for Season 2, staff writer. 877 00:38:04,068 --> 00:38:06,482 We're offering you a 16-week contract, 878 00:38:06,586 --> 00:38:08,486 but you need to work the whole season." 879 00:38:08,517 --> 00:38:10,793 Which was, I believe, 27 weeks. 880 00:38:10,896 --> 00:38:13,379 He was telling me I had to work 11 weeks for free 881 00:38:13,482 --> 00:38:14,655 and I was devastated. 882 00:38:15,482 --> 00:38:16,433 'Cause I'd proven myself. 883 00:38:16,517 --> 00:38:19,137 I'd written well, I'd paid my dues 884 00:38:19,241 --> 00:38:21,691 and he said, This is all the money that we have." 885 00:38:22,241 --> 00:38:24,053 And then, meanwhile, he hired a white male 886 00:38:24,137 --> 00:38:25,724 at full salary. 887 00:38:25,827 --> 00:38:27,931 No credits, you know, first job 888 00:38:28,034 --> 00:38:29,482 but he's asking me, 889 00:38:29,586 --> 00:38:31,310 second season on the same show, 890 00:38:31,413 --> 00:38:33,213 "You have to work 11 weeks for free." 891 00:38:38,965 --> 00:38:41,172 I lasted four days in Season two. 892 00:38:43,724 --> 00:38:45,413 Dan gave us this assignment, 893 00:38:45,517 --> 00:38:48,034 asked all the male writers into his office, 894 00:38:48,137 --> 00:38:48,965 and left me out, 895 00:38:50,137 --> 00:38:51,586 and then he called me in 896 00:38:51,689 --> 00:38:53,448 and all the men were standing 897 00:38:53,551 --> 00:38:55,827 and Dan was behind his desk. 898 00:38:55,931 --> 00:38:58,862 And he said, "Okay, pitch your idea." 899 00:39:01,206 --> 00:39:02,379 I pitched my idea 900 00:39:02,931 --> 00:39:04,517 and he said, 901 00:39:04,620 --> 00:39:06,320 "Didn't you used to do phone sex?" 902 00:39:07,793 --> 00:39:09,689 Just like that, like, out of nowhere. 903 00:39:10,551 --> 00:39:11,651 I was like, "No, Dan." 904 00:39:11,655 --> 00:39:12,640 And he goes like, "Didn't you tell us? 905 00:39:12,724 --> 00:39:14,053 Didn't you say that last season, 906 00:39:14,137 --> 00:39:17,037 that you used to have a job like that, something like that?" 907 00:39:17,137 --> 00:39:18,275 No. 908 00:39:18,379 --> 00:39:19,448 I was destroyed. 909 00:39:19,551 --> 00:39:21,344 I went outside, I was crying. 910 00:39:21,448 --> 00:39:22,620 I can't do this. 911 00:39:22,724 --> 00:39:24,689 So, I did. I went home and I quit. 912 00:39:26,034 --> 00:39:27,344 And it was so devastating. 913 00:39:27,448 --> 00:39:29,793 It was so hard to let go of that job but... 914 00:39:31,965 --> 00:39:33,191 I mean, I just couldn't do it anymore. 915 00:39:33,275 --> 00:39:35,226 There's no way I was gonna be the only woman 916 00:39:35,310 --> 00:39:37,517 in that world with him. No way. 917 00:39:48,103 --> 00:39:50,965 I was at my temping job. 918 00:39:51,620 --> 00:39:53,344 I get a call from Jenny, 919 00:39:53,448 --> 00:39:54,620 "I'm suing Dan." 920 00:39:55,896 --> 00:39:57,724 And I remember thinking... 921 00:39:58,896 --> 00:40:00,551 Like, it just took me by surprise 922 00:40:00,655 --> 00:40:02,379 because we were all afraid. 923 00:40:02,482 --> 00:40:06,275 We are all afraid. That's why just me and Jenny are talking to you. 924 00:40:06,379 --> 00:40:09,206 Like, people are afraid of him. 925 00:40:09,310 --> 00:40:11,551 The reason I did it was because 926 00:40:11,655 --> 00:40:14,191 I didn't want this to be happening to other women in the future. 927 00:40:14,275 --> 00:40:19,827 She said, "Hey, um, can, can you write a letter on my behalf?" 928 00:40:19,931 --> 00:40:21,758 And I said, "Of course, I will." 929 00:40:23,413 --> 00:40:24,398 And so then I hired... 930 00:40:24,482 --> 00:40:28,103 I hired a lawyer and started blowing whistles. 931 00:40:31,310 --> 00:40:32,965 So my lawyer filed complaints 932 00:40:33,068 --> 00:40:35,517 against the production company 933 00:40:35,620 --> 00:40:38,137 for gender discrimination, 934 00:40:38,241 --> 00:40:41,448 hostile work environment, harassment... 935 00:40:42,275 --> 00:40:43,517 Yeah, and in response 936 00:40:43,620 --> 00:40:45,448 they did an internal investigation 937 00:40:46,241 --> 00:40:47,275 and they settled, 938 00:40:47,379 --> 00:40:49,862 but it had a lasting impact on my career. 939 00:40:50,448 --> 00:40:51,517 I mean, I knew that. 940 00:40:51,620 --> 00:40:53,398 I knew that this was the end of my career, 941 00:40:53,482 --> 00:40:54,932 so it had better be worth it. 942 00:40:54,965 --> 00:40:56,215 Like, it had better stop. 943 00:40:56,241 --> 00:40:58,862 And to learn that it didn't stop? 944 00:41:00,448 --> 00:41:01,848 That it was all for nothing? 945 00:41:06,034 --> 00:41:09,034 The Amanda Show was Dan Schneider's first show 946 00:41:09,137 --> 00:41:10,019 and he had a complaint 947 00:41:10,103 --> 00:41:11,640 against him for gender discrimination 948 00:41:11,724 --> 00:41:13,586 and creating a toxic work place, 949 00:41:13,689 --> 00:41:16,206 on his first big show that he did. 950 00:41:16,310 --> 00:41:18,724 So a lot of the seeds of the issues that we see 951 00:41:18,827 --> 00:41:20,226 throughout Dan Schneider's empire, 952 00:41:20,310 --> 00:41:21,640 were there from the beginning. 953 00:41:21,724 --> 00:41:24,758 How safe can any kids be in that environment 954 00:41:24,862 --> 00:41:26,379 if that's how the adult women 955 00:41:26,482 --> 00:41:28,379 are being treated behind the scenes? 956 00:41:31,448 --> 00:41:33,226 And on Dan's shows there was always this, 957 00:41:33,310 --> 00:41:35,862 kind of, murkiness in what was appropriate 958 00:41:35,965 --> 00:41:37,689 and what was inappropriate. 959 00:41:37,793 --> 00:41:39,379 I don't like this. 960 00:41:39,482 --> 00:41:42,191 But there would be even bigger problems down the line 961 00:41:42,275 --> 00:41:44,827 with actual pedophiles on set. 962 00:41:47,793 --> 00:41:51,122 Van Nuys division officers have arrested a suspected child predator 963 00:41:51,206 --> 00:41:52,206 charged with kissing 964 00:41:52,275 --> 00:41:54,344 and touching a nine-year-old girl, 965 00:41:54,448 --> 00:41:56,798 but officers believe there may be more victims. 73381

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