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00:01:03,408 --> 00:01:05,236 ♪ The heart of the sun 18 00:01:05,272 --> 00:01:09,655 Fearless, daring and sometimes, overreaching, 19 00:01:09,690 --> 00:01:13,625 the enigmatic Pink Floyd pushed the boundaries of music 20 00:01:13,659 --> 00:01:17,077 into new realms of artistic expression. 21 00:01:17,111 --> 00:01:27,501 ♪ 22 00:01:27,535 --> 00:01:30,090 Their recording career began during an era 23 00:01:30,124 --> 00:01:35,405 of black and white television and ended in the internet age. 24 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,995 ♪ 25 00:01:39,029 --> 00:01:41,515 They're living legends, they're not just legends. 26 00:01:41,549 --> 00:01:44,828 They're like the beginning and the end of a book. 27 00:01:44,863 --> 00:01:58,979 ♪ 28 00:01:59,015 --> 00:02:01,569 They started off by causing a massive splash 29 00:02:01,604 --> 00:02:04,572 in the psychedelic era, but then they went on to become 30 00:02:04,607 --> 00:02:07,161 the biggest of all the stadium rock bands, 31 00:02:07,196 --> 00:02:10,199 and they happen to have this misunderstood genius 32 00:02:10,233 --> 00:02:12,925 in their ranks who then went on to become 33 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,031 an iconic legend. 34 00:02:15,065 --> 00:02:18,138 ♪ 35 00:02:18,172 --> 00:02:19,794 On one occasion, going, picking Syd up, 36 00:02:19,829 --> 00:02:22,280 and he was wearing sort of full make-up. 37 00:02:22,314 --> 00:02:25,490 Not quite drag, but towards that. 38 00:02:25,524 --> 00:02:29,045 And there was just this sort of blank, let's not, 39 00:02:29,079 --> 00:02:35,430 let's just pretend it's normal and carry on. 40 00:02:35,465 --> 00:02:41,954 ♪ 41 00:02:41,989 --> 00:02:44,440 There is no doubt that Syd was schizophrenic 42 00:02:44,474 --> 00:02:47,305 and that he was taking medicine and those drugs 43 00:02:47,339 --> 00:02:49,203 at the same time. 44 00:02:49,238 --> 00:02:51,585 You have the responsibility of how much of this stuff 45 00:02:51,619 --> 00:02:54,243 you use or don't use because I don't want to upset-- 46 00:02:54,277 --> 00:02:57,418 I don't want to upset his brothers, sisters, 47 00:02:57,453 --> 00:03:03,597 uncles, aunts, anybody who loves him or whatever, so. 48 00:03:03,631 --> 00:03:06,462 But you know, I mean, at this point, you know, 49 00:03:06,496 --> 00:03:09,085 he was hiding around the door in the flat with his guitar, 50 00:03:09,119 --> 00:03:10,500 trying to brain his girlfriend, 51 00:03:10,535 --> 00:03:13,089 trying to brain Lindsay, who was living with him. 52 00:03:13,123 --> 00:03:15,195 And I alerted his family to his condition 53 00:03:15,228 --> 00:03:16,748 and tried to get them to look after him 54 00:03:16,782 --> 00:03:19,613 and they singularly failed to do that. 55 00:03:21,339 --> 00:03:24,376 ♪ The heart of the sun 56 00:03:24,411 --> 00:03:27,759 ♪ The heart of the sun 57 00:03:27,793 --> 00:03:31,072 ♪ The heart of the sun 58 00:03:31,107 --> 00:03:34,421 ♪ The heart of the sun 59 00:03:34,454 --> 00:03:37,906 ♪ The heart of the sun 60 00:03:37,941 --> 00:03:41,393 ♪ The heart of the sun 61 00:03:41,428 --> 00:03:44,638 ♪ The heart of the sun 62 00:03:44,672 --> 00:03:48,055 ♪ The heart of the sun 63 00:03:48,089 --> 00:03:51,265 ♪ The heart of the sun 64 00:03:51,300 --> 00:03:54,613 ♪ The heart of the sun 65 00:03:54,648 --> 00:03:57,961 ♪ The heart of the sun 66 00:03:57,996 --> 00:04:01,517 ♪ The heart of the sun 67 00:04:01,551 --> 00:04:03,484 ♪ The heart of the sun 68 00:04:03,519 --> 00:04:07,039 ♪ 69 00:04:07,074 --> 00:04:11,423 One of the things I do remember was the relief when Syd went. 70 00:04:11,458 --> 00:04:14,357 We knew that it was quite likely to be a lot of the audience 71 00:04:14,392 --> 00:04:16,635 who'd say, "Where's Syd?" 72 00:04:16,670 --> 00:04:19,949 As they continued to do for the next 30 years. 73 00:04:19,983 --> 00:04:22,641 ♪ The heart of the sun 74 00:04:22,676 --> 00:04:25,851 ♪ The heart of the sun 75 00:04:25,886 --> 00:04:29,303 ♪ The heart of the sun 76 00:04:29,338 --> 00:04:34,239 ♪ The heart of the sun 77 00:04:34,274 --> 00:04:36,586 Overcoming the loss of Syd Barrett, 78 00:04:36,621 --> 00:04:40,797 Pink Floyd had little public identity outside their albums. 79 00:04:40,832 --> 00:04:42,765 Their lack of rock and roll charisma 80 00:04:42,799 --> 00:04:44,491 prompted many column inches 81 00:04:44,525 --> 00:04:48,805 devoted to the paradoxical nature of their success. 82 00:04:51,636 --> 00:04:53,120 They could look quite devilish, 83 00:04:53,154 --> 00:04:55,225 'cause they had the light shining up into their face, 84 00:04:55,260 --> 00:04:56,088 you know that effect. 85 00:04:56,123 --> 00:04:58,953 And of course, the drugs helped. 86 00:04:58,988 --> 00:05:03,648 ♪ 87 00:05:03,682 --> 00:05:07,514 The thing that one couldn't miss was the fact that most of them 88 00:05:07,548 --> 00:05:09,964 were totally disinterested, I mean, I remember Roger, 89 00:05:09,999 --> 00:05:12,346 he very defiantly turned his back on the audience. 90 00:05:12,381 --> 00:05:14,037 And they all looked as if they'd been 91 00:05:14,072 --> 00:05:15,763 to the local charity shop 92 00:05:15,798 --> 00:05:19,664 to get rather dreary, second hand clothes. 93 00:05:19,698 --> 00:05:26,360 ♪ 94 00:05:26,395 --> 00:05:29,467 It was excruciatingly embarrassing, 95 00:05:29,501 --> 00:05:31,952 to the extent that I used to mostly play with my back 96 00:05:31,986 --> 00:05:33,471 to the audience. 97 00:05:33,505 --> 00:05:38,441 And I was really, really, 98 00:05:38,476 --> 00:05:41,548 very embarrassed and very nervous 99 00:05:41,582 --> 00:05:45,068 about what I was doing, I didn't feel at all sure of myself. 100 00:05:45,103 --> 00:05:46,553 I didn't know what to play. 101 00:05:46,587 --> 00:05:55,284 ♪ 102 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,150 ♪ Witness the man who raves at the wall ♪ 103 00:05:58,185 --> 00:06:02,051 Pink Floyd have produced some of the most celebrated music 104 00:06:02,085 --> 00:06:03,604 of all time. 105 00:06:03,639 --> 00:06:06,262 They have sold over a billion albums, 106 00:06:06,296 --> 00:06:09,610 yet their very public and acrimonious falling out 107 00:06:09,645 --> 00:06:11,888 sometimes threatened to overshadow 108 00:06:11,923 --> 00:06:14,615 their artistic achievements. 109 00:06:14,650 --> 00:06:16,755 The problem really is that you're either fighting 110 00:06:16,790 --> 00:06:20,380 or you're having fun, there's not much middle ground really. 111 00:06:20,414 --> 00:06:23,003 Our personal problems in the band by that time 112 00:06:23,037 --> 00:06:26,316 were sort of becoming more dominant. 113 00:06:26,351 --> 00:06:28,388 Roger was becoming more dominant. 114 00:06:28,422 --> 00:06:30,907 ♪ 115 00:06:30,942 --> 00:06:34,946 ♪ Set the controls for the heart of the sun ♪ 116 00:06:34,980 --> 00:06:37,258 Dave and I were already absolutely at loggerheads 117 00:06:37,293 --> 00:06:41,055 by then and he had one whole idea about what 118 00:06:41,090 --> 00:06:46,233 it was going to be like and I had a whole other idea. 119 00:06:46,267 --> 00:06:51,203 I'm happy to say, my idea won in the end. 120 00:06:51,238 --> 00:06:54,552 ♪ The heart of the sun 121 00:06:54,586 --> 00:06:57,933 ♪ The heart of the sun 122 00:06:57,969 --> 00:07:01,421 ♪ The heart of the sun 123 00:07:01,455 --> 00:07:03,492 ♪ The heart of the sun 124 00:07:03,526 --> 00:07:07,737 Dave and Nick went to Roger and said we want to tour 125 00:07:07,772 --> 00:07:08,980 as Pink Floyd. 126 00:07:09,014 --> 00:07:11,051 He just said, "You can't tour without me. 127 00:07:11,085 --> 00:07:12,224 I am Pink Floyd." 128 00:07:12,259 --> 00:07:13,674 And they said, "Righteous." 129 00:07:13,709 --> 00:07:17,264 There weren't very many Roger songs played in our show. 130 00:07:17,298 --> 00:07:18,852 Let's put it that way. 131 00:07:18,886 --> 00:07:27,826 ♪ 132 00:07:27,861 --> 00:07:29,794 I'm sorry, Roger, it's never been called 133 00:07:29,828 --> 00:07:31,623 Roger Waters and the All Stars. 134 00:07:31,658 --> 00:07:33,867 It's always been called Pink Floyd. 135 00:07:33,901 --> 00:07:37,491 ♪ 136 00:07:37,526 --> 00:07:39,148 It's a very classic tale. 137 00:07:39,182 --> 00:07:42,358 You know, when solicitors tell people, 138 00:07:42,392 --> 00:07:44,912 "Have your disputes, but don't put it in writing," 139 00:07:44,947 --> 00:07:47,881 they probably have Roger's letter resigning from Floyd 140 00:07:47,915 --> 00:07:52,092 in mind as a good exhibit A in that argument. 141 00:07:52,126 --> 00:07:59,375 ♪ 142 00:07:59,409 --> 00:08:03,379 You have therapy to get over the business of being in the band. 143 00:08:03,413 --> 00:08:05,139 We have a show to make. 144 00:08:05,174 --> 00:08:08,246 [crash] 145 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,351 Three engines up and ready. 146 00:08:10,386 --> 00:08:12,388 Three, two... 147 00:08:12,422 --> 00:08:18,567 ♪ 148 00:08:18,601 --> 00:08:19,844 Yes, that'd be better. 149 00:08:19,878 --> 00:08:22,743 All right, I'll head over. 150 00:08:22,778 --> 00:08:27,714 The Pink Floyd emerged from two overlapping sets of friends. 151 00:08:27,748 --> 00:08:32,477 Syd Barrett, Roger Waters were all Cambridge mates. 152 00:08:32,511 --> 00:08:37,206 Nick and Rick came from Pinner. 153 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,657 Unlike the Stones and the Beatles, 154 00:08:39,691 --> 00:08:42,349 they didn't come from the working class. 155 00:08:42,383 --> 00:08:45,939 They had very nice, comfortable backgrounds. 156 00:08:45,973 --> 00:08:50,184 Unfortunately, I was at school with Roger Waters. 157 00:08:50,219 --> 00:08:51,427 It was a strange school. 158 00:08:51,461 --> 00:08:53,222 It was called the Cambridgeshire High School for Boys. 159 00:08:53,256 --> 00:08:56,087 There was nothing high about it, but my earliest memories of him, 160 00:08:56,121 --> 00:08:57,502 I guess, were at the school. 161 00:08:57,537 --> 00:08:59,262 Now, it was a pretty rough school, 162 00:08:59,297 --> 00:09:02,438 I mean, it was what might be called a grammar school. 163 00:09:02,472 --> 00:09:06,131 But there were various kind of yobs, like me and Roger, 164 00:09:06,166 --> 00:09:08,306 who didn't fit in to the grammar school, 165 00:09:08,340 --> 00:09:11,481 which was essentially middle class milieu. 166 00:09:11,516 --> 00:09:15,520 And both of us definitely smoked behind the bicycle sheds. 167 00:09:15,555 --> 00:09:18,523 And definitely were out to burn the place down 168 00:09:18,558 --> 00:09:22,596 at the earliest opportunity. 169 00:09:22,631 --> 00:09:25,219 Roger, he was quite frightening. 170 00:09:25,254 --> 00:09:27,014 He was quite scary. 171 00:09:27,049 --> 00:09:30,362 But, he's worn really--he looks great now, doesn't he? 172 00:09:30,397 --> 00:09:33,193 And yet he looked weird then because he had a very long face. 173 00:09:33,227 --> 00:09:36,576 But he's worn really well, he has. 174 00:09:38,785 --> 00:09:42,167 Also attending Cambridgeshire High School for Boys 175 00:09:42,202 --> 00:09:44,860 was Roger "Syd" Barrett. 176 00:09:44,894 --> 00:09:48,242 He was two years below me at school. 177 00:09:48,277 --> 00:09:52,350 We became close, you know, when we were teenagers. 178 00:09:52,384 --> 00:09:56,872 And when we were all sort of pretending to be interested 179 00:09:56,906 --> 00:09:59,909 in Lawrence Ferlinghetti and Allen Ginsberg 180 00:09:59,944 --> 00:10:04,120 and talking about smoking dope, but not doing it. 181 00:10:04,155 --> 00:10:06,985 ♪ 182 00:10:07,020 --> 00:10:08,746 It was in about '59, 183 00:10:08,780 --> 00:10:12,301 which is about the time I first came across Syd, 184 00:10:12,335 --> 00:10:15,062 or as he was still, almost then, Roger Barrett. 185 00:10:15,097 --> 00:10:19,964 We used to go down to Grantchester Meadows, on punts, 186 00:10:19,998 --> 00:10:22,552 and a picnic. 187 00:10:22,587 --> 00:10:26,971 This is, of course, just prior to the arrival of pot. 188 00:10:27,005 --> 00:10:30,388 When eventually that came our way, we were delighted. 189 00:10:30,422 --> 00:10:36,118 My first memories of Syd, really, were of this sparky, 190 00:10:36,152 --> 00:10:39,121 prince-like, elven creature. 191 00:10:39,155 --> 00:10:43,297 A very, can I say, beautiful young man? 192 00:10:43,332 --> 00:10:46,646 And we knew he was a poet, 193 00:10:46,680 --> 00:10:52,721 an artist, a painter, and beginning to play guitar. 194 00:10:52,755 --> 00:10:55,931 Cambridge, like many British cities at the time 195 00:10:55,965 --> 00:10:59,486 was enlivened by a thriving music scene. 196 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:05,492 ♪ 197 00:11:05,526 --> 00:11:08,978 We used to go down his mother's house, 198 00:11:09,013 --> 00:11:11,705 on Hills Road, of a Sunday afternoon. 199 00:11:11,740 --> 00:11:13,465 And there would be jamming sessions. 200 00:11:13,500 --> 00:11:15,640 I can remember sitting around, playing acoustic guitars 201 00:11:15,675 --> 00:11:17,297 with him in Cambridge. 202 00:11:17,331 --> 00:11:21,404 ♪ 203 00:11:21,439 --> 00:11:24,580 Roger was at the jam sessions in Hills Road. 204 00:11:24,614 --> 00:11:26,755 And it's interesting because Syd's real name 205 00:11:26,789 --> 00:11:30,448 was Roger Barrett and Roger Waters. 206 00:11:30,482 --> 00:11:34,176 Both called Roger, both had lost their fathers. 207 00:11:34,210 --> 00:11:36,454 And I think this really, really brought them 208 00:11:36,488 --> 00:11:37,938 very close together. 209 00:11:37,973 --> 00:11:41,424 I remember when Syd went out and bought a Futurama III. 210 00:11:41,459 --> 00:11:45,739 You know, a red, sort of plastic guitar. 211 00:11:45,774 --> 00:11:49,260 Whereas before that, people had been fiddling around 212 00:11:49,294 --> 00:11:53,920 with acoustic guitars, and Syd, I remember particularly, 213 00:11:53,954 --> 00:11:56,094 you know, would learn to play "Apache." 214 00:11:56,129 --> 00:12:11,765 ♪ 215 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,631 Syd Barrett, the legendary founder of the Pink Floyd sound 216 00:12:15,665 --> 00:12:18,530 was to become one of the most the heavily mythologized men 217 00:12:18,565 --> 00:12:20,222 in rock. 218 00:12:20,256 --> 00:12:27,056 ♪ 219 00:12:27,091 --> 00:12:30,163 I found Syd very inspiring. 220 00:12:30,197 --> 00:12:33,304 And he had this sort of fairy-like quality about him. 221 00:12:33,338 --> 00:12:34,926 And he turned heads. 222 00:12:34,961 --> 00:12:37,204 He really did turn heads. 223 00:12:37,239 --> 00:12:43,038 Even at the age of 14, 15, a sort of charismatic figure, 224 00:12:43,072 --> 00:12:48,043 that people would sort of point at him, talk about him, 225 00:12:48,077 --> 00:12:51,667 'cause he had some sort of magnetism. 226 00:12:51,701 --> 00:12:58,743 ♪ 227 00:12:58,778 --> 00:13:02,126 I thought, "Wow, that's so beautiful, he is so lovely." 228 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:06,820 And he looked like your sort of archetypal doomed poet. 229 00:13:06,855 --> 00:13:09,202 He had these wonderful violet eyes 230 00:13:09,236 --> 00:13:14,207 and messy black hair and he was slender 231 00:13:14,241 --> 00:13:20,282 and he wore interesting clothes and he didn't say a lot. 232 00:13:20,316 --> 00:13:26,391 And it was my mission to soothe his fevered brow. 233 00:13:28,186 --> 00:13:30,775 It wasn't until later though that I managed to get 234 00:13:30,810 --> 00:13:32,881 on my own with him 235 00:13:32,915 --> 00:13:37,678 and actually make him notice me in that way. 236 00:13:37,713 --> 00:13:42,131 He just was very, you know, a bright light 237 00:13:42,165 --> 00:13:44,616 on the scene. 238 00:13:44,651 --> 00:13:49,656 And I'm sure most people, including myself, 239 00:13:49,690 --> 00:13:50,830 had certain jealousies 240 00:13:50,864 --> 00:13:56,076 of what a bright light he appeared to be. 241 00:13:58,216 --> 00:14:01,495 I don't know why, but we always had this notion 242 00:14:01,530 --> 00:14:04,291 that when we hit London, 'cause London was the mecca 243 00:14:04,326 --> 00:14:06,846 and that was where one had to be, 244 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,021 that we would start a band together. 245 00:14:10,056 --> 00:14:17,028 ♪ 246 00:14:17,063 --> 00:14:21,136 By 1966, a new underground scene was emerging. 247 00:14:21,170 --> 00:14:24,035 Following two decades of post-war austerity, 248 00:14:24,070 --> 00:14:25,899 the economy was booming. 249 00:14:25,934 --> 00:14:28,729 Idealism and optimism were rife. 250 00:14:30,248 --> 00:14:32,699 In this Kings Road that London is lumbered with 251 00:14:32,733 --> 00:14:36,530 stands just a collation known as the Antiques Supermarket. 252 00:14:36,565 --> 00:14:39,982 And "antiques" can mean clothes. 253 00:14:40,017 --> 00:14:41,742 This lady's time machine is headed 254 00:14:41,777 --> 00:14:43,503 for the flapper world of the '20s. 255 00:14:43,537 --> 00:14:47,334 Doubtless a trip many a time traveler would love to take. 256 00:14:47,369 --> 00:14:50,924 One way of saying "no" to authority is to parody it. 257 00:14:50,959 --> 00:14:54,445 Some of the young, with little to say "yes" to, come to Soho, 258 00:14:54,479 --> 00:14:56,896 that pulsating heart of swinging London 259 00:14:56,930 --> 00:15:00,037 where girls join clubs to see old men strip. 260 00:15:00,071 --> 00:15:02,108 Or is it vice versa? 261 00:15:02,142 --> 00:15:05,594 And at the cutely named I Was Lord Kitchener's Valet, 262 00:15:05,628 --> 00:15:08,838 buy uniforms of the past to affront the uniformity 263 00:15:08,873 --> 00:15:11,531 of the present. 264 00:15:11,565 --> 00:15:13,809 Everything was happening and it was the Beatles 265 00:15:13,843 --> 00:15:17,606 and "Sgt. Pepper," and "All You Need is Love." 266 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,540 We were in the heart of it and it was amazing. 267 00:15:20,574 --> 00:15:23,992 Very exciting. 268 00:15:24,026 --> 00:15:27,581 That period of the '60s was a very unique time. 269 00:15:27,616 --> 00:15:32,759 You know, you look at the great year from the summer of '66 270 00:15:32,793 --> 00:15:35,348 through the summer of '67, which was the time 271 00:15:35,382 --> 00:15:39,904 of the most wonderful ferment and activity. 272 00:15:41,837 --> 00:15:44,115 World's End means were the Kings Road ends, 273 00:15:44,150 --> 00:15:47,739 which shows what the Kings Roaders think of themselves. 274 00:15:47,774 --> 00:15:50,777 Granny Takes A Trip, the shop behind the face calls itself 275 00:15:50,811 --> 00:15:52,952 and it's typical of the non-typical, 276 00:15:52,986 --> 00:15:55,023 conforming to the non-conformist's image 277 00:15:55,057 --> 00:15:56,403 of the "in." 278 00:15:56,438 --> 00:15:59,268 What they used to call "way out" and before that "with it" 279 00:15:59,303 --> 00:16:01,650 and before that "groovy" and before that "hip" 280 00:16:01,684 --> 00:16:03,479 and what Granny herself would have called 281 00:16:03,514 --> 00:16:05,895 "the very latest thing, my dear." 282 00:16:05,930 --> 00:16:13,869 ♪ 283 00:16:13,903 --> 00:16:19,392 There is this whole idealized sort of concept to the '60s. 284 00:16:19,426 --> 00:16:22,326 Some of it's true and some of it isn't. 285 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,363 The temptation, when thinking about the middle '60s, 286 00:16:25,398 --> 00:16:29,885 is to think of it in terms of drug culture. 287 00:16:29,919 --> 00:16:31,818 Not just sex, drugs, and rock and roll, 288 00:16:31,852 --> 00:16:34,545 but everybody was gone on LSD, 289 00:16:34,579 --> 00:16:38,169 and you know, there was sex on the hour, every hour. 290 00:16:38,204 --> 00:16:40,861 I mean, the the whole thing must have been totally exhausting, 291 00:16:40,896 --> 00:16:42,553 if that were true. 292 00:16:42,587 --> 00:16:45,038 Self-evidently it wasn't true. 293 00:16:45,073 --> 00:17:00,674 ♪ 294 00:17:00,709 --> 00:17:03,125 Roger Waters, Rick Wright and Nick Mason 295 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,025 met during the first year of an architectural course 296 00:17:06,059 --> 00:17:07,509 in London. 297 00:17:07,542 --> 00:17:10,891 ♪ 298 00:17:10,925 --> 00:17:12,928 Nick Mason and Roger Waters 299 00:17:12,962 --> 00:17:16,137 were at Regent Street Poly together. 300 00:17:16,173 --> 00:17:21,040 And like many people, they were inspired to form a band. 301 00:17:21,074 --> 00:17:24,250 It went through a period where it was really 302 00:17:24,284 --> 00:17:27,598 a sort of Regent Street Poly house band almost. 303 00:17:27,632 --> 00:17:29,876 Where all of the rehearsals took place at college. 304 00:17:29,910 --> 00:17:33,949 There were various incarnations and names. 305 00:17:33,983 --> 00:17:39,368 They had the Screaming Abdabs, Sigma 6, The Tea Set, 306 00:17:39,403 --> 00:17:43,062 Megadeaths. 307 00:17:43,096 --> 00:17:44,477 There were a couple of other characters involved. 308 00:17:44,511 --> 00:17:49,447 Keith Noble and Clyde Metcalfe were in early lineups. 309 00:17:49,482 --> 00:17:55,143 I mean, I suppose the real start of the band was with Syd and Bob 310 00:17:55,177 --> 00:17:57,835 and Rick and myself and Roger. 311 00:17:57,869 --> 00:17:59,906 A couple of them made the big move to London 312 00:17:59,940 --> 00:18:02,702 and they had a place at Stanhope Gardens. 313 00:18:02,736 --> 00:18:05,222 And Syd turned up there one day. 314 00:18:05,256 --> 00:18:07,155 By the time he arrived, I was already playing 315 00:18:07,189 --> 00:18:09,985 with a few other people, so he kind of joined in. 316 00:18:10,019 --> 00:18:12,850 He was living with a whole sort of community of people 317 00:18:12,884 --> 00:18:16,371 who were very much believing, rather like Timothy Leary, 318 00:18:16,405 --> 00:18:20,064 that you know, acid can release you 319 00:18:20,099 --> 00:18:22,170 and you know, get to the truth. 320 00:18:22,204 --> 00:18:25,690 ♪ 321 00:18:25,725 --> 00:18:29,453 He lived in a place called 101 Cromwell Road. 322 00:18:29,487 --> 00:18:32,973 That was just a haven of acid. 323 00:18:33,008 --> 00:18:36,322 People were just dropping it in people's tea without telling, 324 00:18:36,356 --> 00:18:39,290 it was really, really-- it was really too much. 325 00:18:39,325 --> 00:18:42,949 I like to know when I was taking my acid. 326 00:18:42,983 --> 00:18:46,608 101 Cromwell Road, we lived with Syd for awhile. 327 00:18:46,642 --> 00:18:49,714 There were probably five or six of us and I was the only woman. 328 00:18:49,749 --> 00:18:54,926 David describes 101 as a hip salon 329 00:18:54,961 --> 00:19:00,932 where the great and the good would come and hang out, 330 00:19:00,967 --> 00:19:03,142 the American Beats, like Allen Ginsberg. 331 00:19:03,176 --> 00:19:07,663 People like Mick Jagger, Marianne Faithfull, PJ Proby. 332 00:19:07,698 --> 00:19:11,046 And the early Pink Floyd. 333 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,807 Every night was a party, really. 334 00:19:13,842 --> 00:19:16,362 People were tripping and... 335 00:19:16,396 --> 00:19:18,226 ...the house was full of beautiful women. 336 00:19:18,260 --> 00:19:23,748 We would take LSD and we painted our faces. 337 00:19:23,783 --> 00:19:25,302 It was quite mad. 338 00:19:25,336 --> 00:19:32,619 Lysergic acid diethylamide 25, LSD, came our way. 339 00:19:32,654 --> 00:19:35,726 And I'll tell you this, it was legal. 340 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,900 Turn on, tune in, and drop out. 341 00:19:37,935 --> 00:19:44,113 The message is very simple, he said six words. 342 00:19:44,148 --> 00:19:50,050 Turn on, tune in, drop out. 343 00:19:50,085 --> 00:19:55,987 ♪ 344 00:19:56,022 --> 00:19:58,542 Turning on, tuning in, and dropping out 345 00:19:58,576 --> 00:19:59,957 is what happens to you when you take a dose 346 00:19:59,991 --> 00:20:03,271 of the strange new drug called LSD. 347 00:20:04,996 --> 00:20:07,447 LSD has become a way of life with its own philosophers, 348 00:20:07,482 --> 00:20:09,760 like poet Allen Ginsberg. 349 00:20:09,794 --> 00:20:11,589 Yes, there's trouble in the United States. 350 00:20:11,624 --> 00:20:13,867 Millions who would love to come out to a park like today, 351 00:20:13,902 --> 00:20:17,906 and play with the children and sing together. 352 00:20:17,940 --> 00:20:21,979 It's strange to be in a body. 353 00:20:22,013 --> 00:20:24,326 Can I sleep with you? 354 00:20:24,361 --> 00:20:26,535 Shall we sing together? 355 00:20:26,570 --> 00:20:28,434 But above all, like, I don't want to feel bad 356 00:20:28,468 --> 00:20:29,711 or I don't want to, ahh-- 357 00:20:29,745 --> 00:20:31,782 I don't want to have to fight them, 358 00:20:31,816 --> 00:20:34,888 I don't want to fight myself all the time. 359 00:20:34,923 --> 00:20:36,511 I wouldn't want to have to fight the camera, 360 00:20:36,545 --> 00:20:39,721 to see the camera as an enemy or communications as an enemy. 361 00:20:39,755 --> 00:20:42,344 What about the people looking at this, what do they think? 362 00:20:42,379 --> 00:20:45,485 LSD stands for dextro lysergic acid diethylamide, 363 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,212 a chemical derived from a fungus that grows on rye. 364 00:20:48,247 --> 00:20:50,663 It is not addictive like heroin or cocaine, 365 00:20:50,697 --> 00:20:53,010 but it's far more powerful in its effects. 366 00:20:53,044 --> 00:20:55,875 Taken in a pill or sugar cube, it acts in an hour 367 00:20:55,909 --> 00:20:57,601 and lasts up to 24. 368 00:20:57,635 --> 00:21:00,638 During this time, the user soars into another world 369 00:21:00,673 --> 00:21:04,055 where consciousness is vastly expanded, or seems to be. 370 00:21:04,090 --> 00:21:07,956 This is the famous psychedelic experience. 371 00:21:07,990 --> 00:21:11,097 Doctor Timothy Leary, America's high priest of LSD 372 00:21:11,131 --> 00:21:12,961 and its passionate public defender, 373 00:21:12,995 --> 00:21:16,309 calls it turning on the mind, tuning into the infinite, 374 00:21:16,344 --> 00:21:18,622 and dropping out of the here and now. 375 00:21:18,656 --> 00:21:21,418 But there's another controversial side of LSD. 376 00:21:21,452 --> 00:21:23,316 Not all trips are happy ones. 377 00:21:23,351 --> 00:21:25,629 Some are upsetting, and even terrifying. 378 00:21:25,663 --> 00:21:29,943 LSD certainly provides an intense interpersonal-- 379 00:21:29,978 --> 00:21:32,429 non interpersonal, interpsychic experience. 380 00:21:32,463 --> 00:21:35,328 An intense interpsychic kind of an experience, 381 00:21:35,363 --> 00:21:38,089 but I would not call it a consciousness expanding drug, 382 00:21:38,124 --> 00:21:41,230 rather a consciousness decreasing drug. 383 00:21:41,265 --> 00:21:44,233 ♪ 384 00:21:44,268 --> 00:21:48,272 Syd, he started to dabble in this LSD experience 385 00:21:48,307 --> 00:21:50,654 and it was about this time that we became interested 386 00:21:50,688 --> 00:21:52,828 in Eastern mysticism. 387 00:21:52,863 --> 00:21:56,349 Because having experienced this universal love, 388 00:21:56,384 --> 00:21:59,697 this wonderful opening of the doors to perception on LSD, 389 00:21:59,732 --> 00:22:01,561 many of us wanted to get in touch 390 00:22:01,596 --> 00:22:05,358 with this greater meaning, naturally. 391 00:22:05,393 --> 00:22:10,708 ♪ 392 00:22:10,743 --> 00:22:14,678 Perhaps half of us became what's known as satsangis 393 00:22:14,712 --> 00:22:16,300 and if you wanted to follow the path, 394 00:22:16,335 --> 00:22:19,061 you had to give up drugs and alcohol 395 00:22:19,096 --> 00:22:21,719 and become a vegetarian. 396 00:22:21,754 --> 00:22:26,483 Syd asked if he could be brought in, 397 00:22:26,517 --> 00:22:30,349 initiated into this form of meditation. 398 00:22:30,383 --> 00:22:32,834 He came around and said that's what he was going to do 399 00:22:32,868 --> 00:22:35,043 and that he wasn't into smoking dope anymore. 400 00:22:35,077 --> 00:22:38,426 I said, "You can't stop smoking dope, you've got to smoke dope." 401 00:22:38,460 --> 00:22:43,016 And he did go to the master to ask for initiation. 402 00:22:45,916 --> 00:22:50,645 Charan Singh said "no," and that was a blow. 403 00:22:50,679 --> 00:22:52,785 He was very upset. 404 00:22:52,819 --> 00:22:55,097 He felt rejected. 405 00:22:55,132 --> 00:22:57,410 I think Charan Singh could already see 406 00:22:57,445 --> 00:23:02,173 that the man was unbalanced and that actually probably 407 00:23:02,208 --> 00:23:05,453 traveling to India wouldn't be a good idea. 408 00:23:05,487 --> 00:23:13,392 Jenny and I actually did go to stay with Charan Singh in India 409 00:23:13,426 --> 00:23:15,186 and Syd and Lindsay moved into our room 410 00:23:15,221 --> 00:23:17,879 and things did not go well. 411 00:23:17,913 --> 00:23:24,023 ♪ 412 00:23:24,057 --> 00:23:28,337 We came back to 101 Cromwell Road 413 00:23:28,372 --> 00:23:30,374 only to find that in our absence, 414 00:23:30,409 --> 00:23:33,895 they'd held a "legalize marijuana" evening. 415 00:23:33,929 --> 00:23:37,174 It had rather drawn the attention of the Old Bill. 416 00:23:37,208 --> 00:23:39,590 And I felt then, "Well, you know, 417 00:23:39,625 --> 00:23:46,528 maybe 101 as the center of excellence has seen its day." 418 00:23:46,563 --> 00:23:48,012 Roger Waters came round and said, 419 00:23:48,047 --> 00:23:51,982 "Look, I bought this car, 420 00:23:52,016 --> 00:23:55,744 this Chrysler Plymouth Powerglide. 421 00:23:55,779 --> 00:23:59,852 Who'd like to come down to Greece, I want to go to Patmos, 422 00:23:59,886 --> 00:24:03,476 where St. John had the revelations." 423 00:24:03,511 --> 00:24:06,099 "Oh, yeah, Roger, what, you mean we'll go in the car?" 424 00:24:06,134 --> 00:24:10,483 Yeah, so Jenny, myself, Roger, his girlfriend, Judy, 425 00:24:10,518 --> 00:24:12,174 and Rick crammed ourselves 426 00:24:12,209 --> 00:24:14,487 into this Chrysler Plymouth Powerglide, 427 00:24:14,522 --> 00:24:17,594 which was pink, of course, 428 00:24:17,628 --> 00:24:20,942 and set off for Patmos. 429 00:24:20,976 --> 00:24:22,702 So we all went off. 430 00:24:22,737 --> 00:24:25,084 And in the middle of the night, we're on, I don't know, 431 00:24:25,118 --> 00:24:26,879 motorway, somewhere in Germany. 432 00:24:26,913 --> 00:24:28,467 Rick was driving. 433 00:24:28,501 --> 00:24:30,676 We woke up. 434 00:24:30,710 --> 00:24:33,402 And it would only go backwards. 435 00:24:33,437 --> 00:24:37,234 So anyway, it was broken, caput. 436 00:24:37,268 --> 00:24:39,408 We dumped the car and settled for the train 437 00:24:39,443 --> 00:24:43,309 and got ourselves a little boat out to Patmos. 438 00:24:43,343 --> 00:24:47,520 Nobody had much money so we had to rough it quite a lot, 439 00:24:47,555 --> 00:24:50,592 and we found a little house to live in 440 00:24:50,627 --> 00:24:52,525 and it had no furniture, 441 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,839 and I think Roger and his girlfriend at the time, Judy, 442 00:24:55,873 --> 00:24:59,325 they just laid on a mattress upstairs 443 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,846 and I think Nigel and I slept in the kitchen. 444 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,126 The inevitable tripping occurred. 445 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,130 That's where Roger Waters had his first acid trip. 446 00:25:12,959 --> 00:25:14,720 On the Isle of Patmos. 447 00:25:14,754 --> 00:25:16,549 Where we were looking at pictures of St. John 448 00:25:16,584 --> 00:25:19,414 the Divine and there was this beam of light 449 00:25:19,448 --> 00:25:22,451 coming to a hole in his head. 450 00:25:22,486 --> 00:25:24,453 This is obviously the divine place, 451 00:25:24,488 --> 00:25:27,905 there's a light pouring into his head. 452 00:25:27,940 --> 00:25:30,632 And I think he found that quite strange, yes, 453 00:25:30,667 --> 00:25:32,738 never to be repeated. 454 00:25:32,772 --> 00:25:35,188 And I remember asking Roger if he'd like to be famous 455 00:25:35,223 --> 00:25:37,259 and he said "Yeah!" 456 00:25:37,294 --> 00:25:40,262 They came back and that's when it all started happening. 457 00:25:40,297 --> 00:25:46,648 ♪ 458 00:25:46,683 --> 00:25:49,893 Given the musical sophistication of their latter years, 459 00:25:49,927 --> 00:25:53,241 it is difficult to conceive of Pink Floyd as a run of the mill, 460 00:25:53,275 --> 00:25:58,936 rhythm and blues band, yet this is precisely how they began. 461 00:25:58,971 --> 00:26:02,699 ♪ 462 00:26:02,733 --> 00:26:06,323 Pink Floyd was originally supposed to be a blues band. 463 00:26:06,357 --> 00:26:11,086 But the blues scene had kind of passed on in a way, 464 00:26:11,121 --> 00:26:16,609 so I think the Floyd were never quite serious blues fanatics 465 00:26:16,644 --> 00:26:18,611 the way that some of those other groups were. 466 00:26:18,646 --> 00:26:20,509 Because of the drugs and everything, we'd become 467 00:26:20,544 --> 00:26:23,892 tired of the two, three minute pop song. 468 00:26:23,927 --> 00:26:27,862 And we wanted something longer to go into 469 00:26:27,896 --> 00:26:31,797 and the Floyd really were the first music 470 00:26:31,831 --> 00:26:34,282 of acid consciousness, I mean, they would play 471 00:26:34,316 --> 00:26:37,630 forty minute riffs on one tune. 472 00:26:37,665 --> 00:26:40,322 It would just go on like that, and that's what we liked 473 00:26:40,357 --> 00:26:43,636 and we could lose ourselves in the infinite variety 474 00:26:43,671 --> 00:26:46,466 of their solos and things like that. 475 00:26:46,501 --> 00:26:51,851 By 1966, not only the Beatles, but a great number of groups 476 00:26:51,886 --> 00:26:56,511 had discovered Ravi Shankar and all that that entails 477 00:26:56,545 --> 00:26:58,547 and the sitar and the ragas. 478 00:26:58,582 --> 00:27:01,033 You know, a raga can go on for 30 minutes 479 00:27:01,067 --> 00:27:03,138 and that's just the introduction, 480 00:27:03,173 --> 00:27:04,588 if you see what I mean? 481 00:27:04,623 --> 00:27:07,729 And Roger had definitely been to a Ravi Shankar concert 482 00:27:07,764 --> 00:27:09,558 at the Festival Hall. 483 00:27:09,593 --> 00:27:13,977 So, I suspect that that was where the influence came. 484 00:27:14,011 --> 00:27:27,438 ♪ 485 00:27:27,473 --> 00:27:30,407 [cheering] 486 00:27:35,895 --> 00:27:41,694 ♪ 487 00:27:41,729 --> 00:27:46,147 We'd started off playing blues. 488 00:27:46,181 --> 00:27:49,391 And I don't think any of us, I certainly didn't see 489 00:27:49,426 --> 00:27:52,636 what kind of band we were going to be. 490 00:27:52,671 --> 00:27:56,019 The early Pink Floyd started off with a lot of blues 491 00:27:56,053 --> 00:27:58,815 and whatever you call that, R&B stuff. 492 00:28:00,713 --> 00:28:04,303 And Syd would take them off into extended sort of jamming 493 00:28:04,337 --> 00:28:08,997 as he got more interested in the new waves 494 00:28:09,032 --> 00:28:10,412 that was happening at the time. 495 00:28:10,447 --> 00:28:13,277 I remember sitting with a piece of paper with Syd, 496 00:28:13,312 --> 00:28:15,728 drawing out what the line up was going to be 497 00:28:15,763 --> 00:28:18,006 and what amps we were going to have. 498 00:28:18,041 --> 00:28:22,148 Two AC30s we decided was it and put the vocals 499 00:28:22,183 --> 00:28:24,185 and lead guitar through one AC30 500 00:28:24,219 --> 00:28:25,807 and the bass and the rhythm guitar 501 00:28:25,842 --> 00:28:29,086 and the keyboards through the other one. 502 00:28:29,121 --> 00:28:32,124 So there was very much a plan always. 503 00:28:34,022 --> 00:28:38,026 The group started by playing gigs at fringe events. 504 00:28:38,061 --> 00:28:41,789 ♪ 505 00:28:41,823 --> 00:28:44,688 They managed to get a gig at this club in Kensington 506 00:28:44,723 --> 00:28:48,657 called The Countdown, where they were playing 90 minute sets, 507 00:28:48,692 --> 00:28:50,211 three times a night. 508 00:28:50,245 --> 00:28:53,662 And they found they didn't have enough songs. 509 00:28:53,697 --> 00:28:58,219 So they started making the songs longer, improvising. 510 00:28:58,253 --> 00:29:03,707 And that's how the Pink Floyd spacey instrumental started. 511 00:29:03,742 --> 00:29:07,262 ♪ Set the controls for the heart of the sun ♪ 512 00:29:07,297 --> 00:29:12,164 ♪ 513 00:29:12,198 --> 00:29:14,787 Down in the sort of basin of Notting Hill 514 00:29:14,822 --> 00:29:17,548 there was a place called All Saints Hall 515 00:29:17,583 --> 00:29:20,413 and the Floyd were playing there 516 00:29:20,448 --> 00:29:23,692 and when we went in there and heard them 517 00:29:23,727 --> 00:29:27,282 we realized this was definitely the music of the future, 518 00:29:27,317 --> 00:29:31,804 it was certainly the future for awhile. 519 00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:33,702 The thing I remember about that concert 520 00:29:33,737 --> 00:29:37,534 was it was the loudest noise I'd ever heard. 521 00:29:37,568 --> 00:29:40,848 My eardrums were ringing for hours and hours 522 00:29:40,882 --> 00:29:42,332 and hours afterwards. 523 00:29:42,366 --> 00:29:46,336 You could say a lot of the music we played then was pretty bad, 524 00:29:46,370 --> 00:29:49,270 but I suspect we got away with some of the stuff we did 525 00:29:49,304 --> 00:29:51,824 because everyone in the audience was quite stoned. 526 00:29:51,859 --> 00:29:53,722 The guy on Melody Maker, Chris Welch, 527 00:29:53,757 --> 00:29:55,897 he described them as a sort of thunderous racket. 528 00:29:55,932 --> 00:29:58,451 He couldn't handle the improvisations. 529 00:29:58,486 --> 00:30:00,419 They were like a schizophrenic band. 530 00:30:00,453 --> 00:30:03,629 ♪ The heart of the sun 531 00:30:03,663 --> 00:30:06,908 ♪ The heart of the sun 532 00:30:06,943 --> 00:30:11,361 ♪ The heart of the sun 533 00:30:11,395 --> 00:30:15,710 Certainly for quite some time, they were death commercially. 534 00:30:15,744 --> 00:30:19,714 I mean, I don't think record companies wanted to know them. 535 00:30:19,748 --> 00:30:21,854 The audiences certainly didn't want to know them. 536 00:30:21,889 --> 00:30:25,375 And their later success, you can't believe that they went 537 00:30:25,409 --> 00:30:30,483 through several years of not doing well. 538 00:30:30,518 --> 00:30:40,528 ♪ 539 00:30:56,268 --> 00:31:00,410 I came across the Floyd for the first time at a money raiser 540 00:31:00,444 --> 00:31:03,206 for the London Free School at a church hall 541 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,449 in Notting Hill Gate. 542 00:31:05,484 --> 00:31:08,936 And I remember seeing them and thinking, "Wow, they're great." 543 00:31:08,970 --> 00:31:10,903 They all knew who Joe Boyd was because he was 544 00:31:10,938 --> 00:31:13,975 the big record producer of the underground. 545 00:31:14,010 --> 00:31:17,668 Joe was an expatriate American who was already 546 00:31:17,703 --> 00:31:19,394 a respected record producer 547 00:31:19,429 --> 00:31:22,225 and plus he was instrumental in all the stuff 548 00:31:22,259 --> 00:31:23,467 going on in the '60s. 549 00:31:23,502 --> 00:31:33,581 ♪ 550 00:31:33,615 --> 00:31:36,170 By the summer of 1966, 551 00:31:36,204 --> 00:31:38,793 Pink Floyd had acquired two managers. 552 00:31:38,827 --> 00:31:41,106 Peter Jenner and Andrew King. 553 00:31:41,140 --> 00:31:43,039 I knew Peter Jenner and Andrew King, 554 00:31:43,073 --> 00:31:45,455 and I was the only person they knew in the music business, 555 00:31:45,489 --> 00:31:47,975 so they said here's a tape of this group. 556 00:31:48,009 --> 00:31:50,632 I actually tried to-- immediately tried to get Elektra 557 00:31:50,667 --> 00:31:53,359 who I was still working for, to sign them. 558 00:31:53,394 --> 00:31:57,467 And the boss of Elektra came to England and we set up a showcase 559 00:31:57,501 --> 00:32:01,850 for them and he wasn't interested and I got fired. 560 00:32:01,885 --> 00:32:03,576 But I really wanted to stay in Britain, 561 00:32:03,611 --> 00:32:07,718 but I needed a source of income, I mean, some way to pay my rent. 562 00:32:07,753 --> 00:32:11,205 Then I started bringing people down to the Palace Square 563 00:32:11,239 --> 00:32:12,965 to hear the Floyd. 564 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,726 You didn't have to be a genius to figure out that they were, 565 00:32:15,761 --> 00:32:17,004 that Syd was writing great songs 566 00:32:17,038 --> 00:32:19,523 and this was a really interesting group. 567 00:32:22,009 --> 00:32:25,874 Joe Boyd found a new vocation and opened Britain's first 568 00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:27,980 psychedelic rock club. 569 00:32:28,015 --> 00:32:31,984 We opened UFO on the 23rd of December, 1966, 570 00:32:32,019 --> 00:32:34,469 the Floyd booked. 571 00:32:34,504 --> 00:32:37,058 And we didn't really know who was gonna turn up. 572 00:32:37,093 --> 00:32:39,888 I mean, our only advertising, I think we had a little tiny ad 573 00:32:39,923 --> 00:32:44,100 in Melody Maker and an ad in International Times 574 00:32:44,134 --> 00:32:48,242 and we passed out little leaflets in Portobello Road 575 00:32:48,276 --> 00:32:50,692 the previous Saturday. 576 00:32:50,727 --> 00:32:53,799 We were very nervous, 'cause we'd agreed to pay 577 00:32:53,833 --> 00:32:57,492 I think 15 pounds for the rental of this Irish dance hall 578 00:32:57,527 --> 00:32:58,977 for the night, Friday night, 579 00:32:59,011 --> 00:33:01,496 and it was freezing cold, 580 00:33:01,531 --> 00:33:05,155 and who knew who was gonna show up. 581 00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:08,296 And in fact, we packed the place. 582 00:33:08,331 --> 00:33:13,750 And...I would have to call the audience, generally, 583 00:33:13,784 --> 00:33:16,339 what you would refer to as freaks. 584 00:33:16,373 --> 00:33:20,136 ♪ 585 00:33:20,170 --> 00:33:22,069 UFO was pretty seedy. 586 00:33:22,103 --> 00:33:23,794 There was nowhere to sit, really. 587 00:33:23,829 --> 00:33:26,280 You'd just all lie there, sort of out of your mind 588 00:33:26,314 --> 00:33:28,040 staring up at the stage 589 00:33:28,075 --> 00:33:29,973 or the films or whatever 590 00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:33,356 because it really was a place just to drop acid and go to. 591 00:33:33,390 --> 00:33:37,636 There was people... 592 00:33:37,670 --> 00:33:39,500 actually were astonished 593 00:33:39,534 --> 00:33:42,537 to find that there were so many like them. 594 00:33:42,572 --> 00:33:46,265 They came down, they went, "Oh wow, we are not alone." 595 00:33:46,300 --> 00:33:49,889 You know, "Me and my friends are not the only people 596 00:33:49,924 --> 00:33:53,928 dressing in crazy clothes and taking funny substances 597 00:33:53,962 --> 00:33:55,757 and wanting to listen to this kind of music." 598 00:33:55,792 --> 00:33:59,382 So it was kind of revelation for me and for the audience 599 00:33:59,416 --> 00:34:02,074 to see that there were so many people who were interested. 600 00:34:02,109 --> 00:34:08,494 ♪ 601 00:34:08,529 --> 00:34:09,806 The Pink Floyd, once called 602 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,188 the "underground's house orchestra." 603 00:34:12,222 --> 00:34:14,811 On Friday nights, they and other groups play at UFO, 604 00:34:14,844 --> 00:34:18,263 U-F-O, Unidentified Flying Object, 605 00:34:18,297 --> 00:34:21,231 a night time environment where films, projection, and music 606 00:34:21,266 --> 00:34:25,097 make the underground's nightclub a huge entertainment scene. 607 00:34:25,132 --> 00:34:28,859 For the rest of the week it is, improbably, an Irish dance hall. 608 00:34:28,893 --> 00:34:31,344 It's here that the underground becomes most obviously 609 00:34:31,379 --> 00:34:33,105 a young people's movement. 610 00:34:33,139 --> 00:34:34,795 The only people over about 30 611 00:34:34,831 --> 00:34:37,764 are reporters come to investigate what's going on. 612 00:34:37,799 --> 00:34:40,284 They're treated with amused tolerance by the people 613 00:34:40,319 --> 00:34:42,494 they're investigating. 614 00:34:42,527 --> 00:34:46,291 One of the aims here is to make music a felt experience. 615 00:34:46,324 --> 00:34:49,087 To make the patterns of light and sound merge and fuse 616 00:34:49,121 --> 00:34:51,123 deep inside each listener. 617 00:34:51,158 --> 00:34:55,817 The attempt has been called psychedelic or mind expanding. 618 00:34:55,851 --> 00:34:58,372 Psychedelic is a silly term used by commentators 619 00:34:58,406 --> 00:35:00,063 as a blanket word to cover anything 620 00:35:00,098 --> 00:35:01,892 they don't fully understand. 621 00:35:01,927 --> 00:35:04,516 If this is psychedelic, then psychedelic music 622 00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:06,621 may be with us for some time. 623 00:35:06,656 --> 00:35:09,314 Many people claim it to be the next popular music, 624 00:35:09,348 --> 00:35:13,421 music as experience, not as melody. 625 00:35:13,456 --> 00:35:16,493 ♪ 626 00:35:16,528 --> 00:35:19,772 I was taking a few trips then and I was just lying 627 00:35:19,807 --> 00:35:25,192 on the floor while they played, not in my body. 628 00:35:25,226 --> 00:35:29,713 And being transported, you know, hundreds, millions, light years 629 00:35:29,748 --> 00:35:33,890 up into the cosmos on the sounds of their music. 630 00:35:33,924 --> 00:35:38,791 ♪ 631 00:35:38,826 --> 00:35:44,349 The group decorated those great songs with long improvisations 632 00:35:44,383 --> 00:35:47,490 and played them in front of bouncing lights 633 00:35:47,524 --> 00:35:52,426 and pulsing colors and all that kind of thing. 634 00:35:52,460 --> 00:35:54,600 That was great because it just enhanced 635 00:35:54,635 --> 00:36:00,986 the whole experience and I wasn't alone, 636 00:36:01,020 --> 00:36:03,644 I mean, everybody felt that way. 637 00:36:03,678 --> 00:36:06,164 It was very obscure and very odd. 638 00:36:06,198 --> 00:36:10,202 And the whole effect was mesmerizing 639 00:36:10,237 --> 00:36:13,378 and they were dressed in their beautiful satins and silks 640 00:36:13,412 --> 00:36:18,555 and the lights were shining on them and they were like sort of 641 00:36:18,590 --> 00:36:21,524 colorful gargoyles almost. 642 00:36:21,558 --> 00:36:24,665 The underground movement in London is small, as yet. 643 00:36:24,699 --> 00:36:27,426 Elsewhere, it has become a great force. 644 00:36:27,461 --> 00:36:30,498 Instant theater, happenings, light and sound shows, 645 00:36:30,533 --> 00:36:32,707 psychedelic music is spreading. 646 00:36:32,742 --> 00:36:37,333 Today's underground may be the answer to tomorrow's leisure. 647 00:36:37,367 --> 00:36:40,681 We were the so-called beautiful people, 648 00:36:40,715 --> 00:36:42,993 but the News of the World, 649 00:36:43,028 --> 00:36:44,788 who must have heard about all this 650 00:36:44,823 --> 00:36:46,204 and come down and had a look, 651 00:36:46,238 --> 00:36:50,587 said there were people there injecting reefers, 652 00:36:50,622 --> 00:36:54,350 which is--yes, I'd like to try and do that. 653 00:36:54,384 --> 00:36:57,801 So the outside world was starting to cop on 654 00:36:57,836 --> 00:37:01,564 to what was happening on the so-called underground. 655 00:37:01,598 --> 00:37:10,952 ♪ 656 00:37:10,987 --> 00:37:13,714 I was asked by the editor of the News of the World 657 00:37:13,748 --> 00:37:17,304 if I had any photographs of the Pink Floyd 658 00:37:17,338 --> 00:37:22,792 and I said, "Oh no," but then I arranged them with Peter Jenner 659 00:37:22,826 --> 00:37:24,518 who was their manager at the time. 660 00:37:24,552 --> 00:37:28,280 And they said," Yes, come along, photograph them." 661 00:37:28,315 --> 00:37:30,938 I was nervous when he said to me, "Don't accept any food, 662 00:37:30,972 --> 00:37:33,251 drinks, cigarettes or anything like that." 663 00:37:33,285 --> 00:37:36,806 I didn't ask why and I just accepted what he said. 664 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,842 I went there and they were so kind, they were so nice 665 00:37:38,877 --> 00:37:40,154 and they said, "Would you like a cup of tea?" 666 00:37:40,188 --> 00:37:42,674 And I said, "Oh, no," terrified, you know? 667 00:37:42,708 --> 00:37:49,059 They seemed like four very well educated public school boys. 668 00:37:49,094 --> 00:37:52,304 [shutter clicking] 669 00:37:52,339 --> 00:37:55,031 They were rather bewildered in actual fact, yes. 670 00:37:55,065 --> 00:37:57,861 I think that's quite a good word, bewildered. 671 00:37:57,896 --> 00:38:07,077 ♪ 672 00:38:07,112 --> 00:38:10,357 And I don't think they'd ever, you know, been asked 673 00:38:10,391 --> 00:38:12,186 to move the instruments. 674 00:38:12,220 --> 00:38:14,257 They were kind of looking quizzically at each other, 675 00:38:14,292 --> 00:38:17,536 thinking, "I wonder what this mad woman wants." 676 00:38:19,262 --> 00:38:21,989 I was asked to go again because the first time they all looked 677 00:38:22,023 --> 00:38:25,130 rather, a bit odd really, somewhat. 678 00:38:25,164 --> 00:38:28,167 And Jenner said, you know, he'd prefer to have another set 679 00:38:28,202 --> 00:38:32,206 of pictures, where Syd Barrett didn't look so spaced out. 680 00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:34,691 But in the second shoot, Syd took control 681 00:38:34,726 --> 00:38:38,074 and they responded to him, whatever he said 682 00:38:38,108 --> 00:38:40,421 of the whole session, really. 683 00:38:42,734 --> 00:38:46,772 News of the World used it for an exposé on drugs. 684 00:38:46,807 --> 00:38:49,741 I'd hadn't realized that that's what they wanted it for. 685 00:38:49,775 --> 00:38:54,332 I thought, "Oh crikey, I'm going to be sued," you know? 686 00:38:54,366 --> 00:38:58,888 It's hard to say how many people were high or not. 687 00:38:58,922 --> 00:39:01,442 Probably in the first month, 688 00:39:01,477 --> 00:39:03,582 there was probably a pretty good percentage, 689 00:39:03,617 --> 00:39:05,998 but then the combination of the fact that the publicity 690 00:39:06,033 --> 00:39:09,105 drew a lot of outsiders or people who hadn't 691 00:39:09,139 --> 00:39:11,072 had much experience taking drugs. 692 00:39:11,107 --> 00:39:15,456 Plus, the fact that police got interested and started searching 693 00:39:15,491 --> 00:39:19,667 people in the queue outside meant as the crowds got bigger, 694 00:39:19,702 --> 00:39:22,429 they got a little bit straighter. 695 00:39:22,463 --> 00:39:25,466 ♪ 696 00:39:25,501 --> 00:39:29,505 The Floyd's number one priority was to release a record. 697 00:39:31,679 --> 00:39:35,580 In January 1967, Joe Boyd steered the group 698 00:39:35,614 --> 00:39:38,445 into Chelsea's Sound Techniques Studios 699 00:39:38,479 --> 00:39:42,034 to record the Barrett penned song, "Arnold Layne." 700 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,555 They were a pleasure to work with, 701 00:39:45,590 --> 00:39:48,109 we had a lot of fun doing "Arnold Layne" 702 00:39:48,144 --> 00:39:51,423 and the B-side and we did it. 703 00:39:51,458 --> 00:39:53,701 I mean, we did it in one evening, 704 00:39:53,736 --> 00:39:55,772 recorded it and mixed it the next night. 705 00:39:55,807 --> 00:39:58,948 I mean, it wasn't a big, long process, 706 00:39:58,982 --> 00:40:01,847 but it was a lot of fun. 707 00:40:01,882 --> 00:40:04,367 It reached about number 20 in the charts. 708 00:40:04,402 --> 00:40:08,647 It got banned on Radio London for encouraging transvest-ism 709 00:40:08,682 --> 00:40:10,200 or something. 710 00:40:10,235 --> 00:40:13,341 Well it's about a guy sniffing girls panties in the backyard, 711 00:40:13,376 --> 00:40:17,415 you know, it's a bit naughty. 712 00:40:17,449 --> 00:40:20,141 You know, and this was 1967, the BBC wasn't-- 713 00:40:20,176 --> 00:40:23,800 They'd only just started playing pop music really 714 00:40:23,835 --> 00:40:25,699 and all of a sudden they're presented with this record 715 00:40:25,733 --> 00:40:29,081 about a guy who is kind of a pervert, 716 00:40:29,116 --> 00:40:33,085 so their response was to ban it, which of course, 717 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,640 gave it a lot of publicity. 718 00:40:35,674 --> 00:40:37,849 Now, I think it was a good enough record 719 00:40:37,883 --> 00:40:42,785 to get higher in the charts if they hadn't banned it, 720 00:40:42,819 --> 00:40:45,063 but you could equally make the argument that it got 721 00:40:45,097 --> 00:40:47,445 into the charts at all because they did ban it. 722 00:40:47,479 --> 00:40:50,517 Who knows? 723 00:40:50,551 --> 00:40:53,416 Record label EMI was suitably impressed, 724 00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:55,280 and signed the Pink Floyd on the basis 725 00:40:55,314 --> 00:40:57,351 the band agreed to work exclusively 726 00:40:57,385 --> 00:41:01,838 with staff producers at the label's own Abbey Road Studios, 727 00:41:01,873 --> 00:41:05,532 leaving Joe Boyd unceremoniously dumped. 728 00:41:05,566 --> 00:41:10,537 ♪ 729 00:41:10,571 --> 00:41:13,471 Peter Jenner and Andrew King, they were able to get a deal 730 00:41:13,505 --> 00:41:17,198 with EMI and they signed for 5,000 pounds. 731 00:41:18,959 --> 00:41:20,685 I wasn't upset that they signed EMI, 732 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,723 although, yeah, I was upset that they didn't sign 733 00:41:24,758 --> 00:41:29,348 my deal with my company through--to Polydor, 734 00:41:29,383 --> 00:41:32,869 but I was particularly upset when EMI said, 735 00:41:32,904 --> 00:41:34,388 "No, no, no we can't use Joe Boyd, 736 00:41:34,422 --> 00:41:36,701 we're going to use our own producer." 737 00:41:36,735 --> 00:41:39,289 That was not good. 738 00:41:39,324 --> 00:41:41,878 ♪ 739 00:41:41,913 --> 00:41:46,849 Joe was terrific for us and produced two really good singles 740 00:41:46,883 --> 00:41:50,369 and then it all went a different way. 741 00:41:50,404 --> 00:41:53,269 The band settled into recording their debut album, 742 00:41:53,303 --> 00:41:58,274 "Piper at the Gates of Dawn" in Studio 3, Abbey Road. 743 00:41:58,308 --> 00:42:00,759 Meanwhile, in Studio 2, the Beatles 744 00:42:00,794 --> 00:42:04,418 were working on "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band." 745 00:42:04,452 --> 00:42:06,869 One of the things that did work for us really well 746 00:42:06,903 --> 00:42:10,666 was EMI as a record company because we rearranged 747 00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:13,841 our record deal so that we had pretty unlimited studio time. 748 00:42:13,876 --> 00:42:15,981 And we spent a lot of time in the studios, 749 00:42:16,016 --> 00:42:18,156 and we spent a lot of time learning things. 750 00:42:18,190 --> 00:42:22,436 And a lot of it was very much thanks to The Beatles. 751 00:42:22,470 --> 00:42:24,921 They were working on "Piper at the Gates of Dawn" 752 00:42:24,956 --> 00:42:32,101 in the Abbey Road Studios, in a studio and next door 753 00:42:32,135 --> 00:42:34,137 the Beatles were working on "Sgt. Pepper." 754 00:42:34,172 --> 00:42:36,174 They certainly visited each other 755 00:42:36,208 --> 00:42:38,314 and listened to what each other were doing 756 00:42:38,348 --> 00:42:41,593 and then out came the most psychedelic record 757 00:42:41,628 --> 00:42:44,769 the Beatles ever did. 758 00:42:44,803 --> 00:42:48,151 "Piper at the Gates of Dawn" was to draw frequent comparisons 759 00:42:48,186 --> 00:42:51,741 with "Pepper" in the wake of its release and ascendancy 760 00:42:51,776 --> 00:42:54,572 on the British LP charts. 761 00:42:54,606 --> 00:42:57,298 Good rock musicians, like good composers, 762 00:42:57,333 --> 00:42:59,991 like good artists anywhere, they're like magpies. 763 00:43:00,025 --> 00:43:01,855 They'll steal bits from here and bits from there. 764 00:43:01,889 --> 00:43:06,618 They all do it, nothing wrong with that, 765 00:43:06,653 --> 00:43:09,690 provided what you're making is something new 766 00:43:09,725 --> 00:43:14,971 and, I mean, a musician as attuned 767 00:43:15,006 --> 00:43:17,698 and as acute as John Lennon, 768 00:43:17,733 --> 00:43:20,494 there is no way he wouldn't have picked up on what 769 00:43:20,528 --> 00:43:24,809 others were doing and seeing is there any way I can use this. 770 00:43:24,843 --> 00:43:26,362 There's nothing wrong with that, 771 00:43:26,396 --> 00:43:29,676 I think that's the process of all great art. 772 00:43:29,710 --> 00:43:34,922 Syd was using a Zippo lighter to do a sort of slide guitar effect 773 00:43:34,957 --> 00:43:39,375 and Rick Wright, he was always trying to work out new noises 774 00:43:39,409 --> 00:43:41,998 to get out of his keyboard. 775 00:43:42,033 --> 00:43:47,383 ♪ 776 00:43:47,417 --> 00:43:53,458 Lennon felt that Pink Floyd were on the cusp of doing something 777 00:43:53,492 --> 00:43:56,357 really important, again because of the Indian connection, 778 00:43:56,392 --> 00:43:58,394 because by then they'd been to the Maharishi 779 00:43:58,428 --> 00:44:03,019 and they for certain, a rather short time, 780 00:44:03,054 --> 00:44:06,264 they wore a lot of beads and flowers in their hair 781 00:44:06,298 --> 00:44:08,231 and talked rubbish about you know, 782 00:44:08,266 --> 00:44:09,750 transcendental meditation. 783 00:44:09,785 --> 00:44:12,546 I mean, it was absolute garbage, but there we are. 784 00:44:12,580 --> 00:44:16,205 We've had enough acid, it'd done all it can do for us, 785 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,138 you know, there was no going any further 786 00:44:18,172 --> 00:44:19,967 it only does so much. 787 00:44:20,002 --> 00:44:21,520 Are you experiencing the subtler state 788 00:44:21,555 --> 00:44:23,315 of thought at this moment? 789 00:44:23,350 --> 00:44:27,699 No, I am out in the grass, speaking-- 790 00:44:27,734 --> 00:44:30,391 What do you have to do to obtain this state of thought? 791 00:44:30,426 --> 00:44:33,256 Just a few instructions from a trained teacher, 792 00:44:33,291 --> 00:44:35,120 and one begins to experience it. 793 00:44:35,155 --> 00:44:37,088 How long does it take? 794 00:44:37,122 --> 00:44:38,848 About half an hour. 795 00:44:38,883 --> 00:44:41,402 How do you know when it's happened? 796 00:44:41,437 --> 00:44:43,784 One begins to feel relaxed. 797 00:44:43,819 --> 00:44:45,924 Right from the beginning, one begins to feel 798 00:44:45,959 --> 00:44:48,444 some improved level of well being. 799 00:44:48,478 --> 00:44:50,929 You just feel more energetic, 800 00:44:50,964 --> 00:44:53,173 just simply for doing work or anything. 801 00:44:53,207 --> 00:44:55,520 You just come out of it like, 802 00:44:55,554 --> 00:44:57,349 "Let's get going," you know? 803 00:44:57,384 --> 00:45:08,636 ♪ 804 00:45:14,159 --> 00:45:17,818 "Piper at the Gates of Dawn" was rapturously received 805 00:45:17,853 --> 00:45:19,993 and the band became the musical darlings 806 00:45:20,027 --> 00:45:22,892 of the flowering counterculture. 807 00:45:22,927 --> 00:45:30,486 ♪ 808 00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,764 We were touring virtually everyday. 809 00:45:32,799 --> 00:45:34,421 We were having the screaming girls 810 00:45:34,455 --> 00:45:38,321 and Syd was definitely a star and he did like it, actually. 811 00:45:38,356 --> 00:45:40,738 I think Syd really enjoyed that part of the whole, 812 00:45:40,772 --> 00:45:42,601 the fame thing. 813 00:45:42,636 --> 00:45:45,294 And I think the rest of us were more uncomfortable with it. 814 00:45:45,328 --> 00:45:48,090 The album did really well, the first one, 815 00:45:48,124 --> 00:45:49,781 but they were on the Top of the Pops 816 00:45:49,816 --> 00:45:53,578 doing "See Emily Play," which got in the top ten, 817 00:45:53,612 --> 00:45:55,200 but on the other hand, if you went to see them live, 818 00:45:55,235 --> 00:45:57,306 they'd play "Interstellar Overdrive" 819 00:45:57,340 --> 00:45:58,928 for like half an hour. 820 00:45:58,963 --> 00:46:02,656 They were very exploratory, yet they had pop songs 821 00:46:02,690 --> 00:46:04,658 that got in the charts and they had this balance going 822 00:46:04,692 --> 00:46:08,317 for awhile, until everything changed. 823 00:46:08,351 --> 00:46:13,736 ♪ 824 00:46:13,771 --> 00:46:17,498 Even at this early stage, Syd Barrett was showing signs 825 00:46:17,533 --> 00:46:19,569 of mental fragility. 826 00:46:21,848 --> 00:46:24,851 They'd stopped playing at UFO because they got too big, 827 00:46:24,885 --> 00:46:29,856 but they'd said, "We'll come back in the summer 828 00:46:29,890 --> 00:46:32,548 and play a gig here for the old price, 829 00:46:32,582 --> 00:46:35,793 just for old time's sake." 830 00:46:35,827 --> 00:46:39,382 And so they did and he came in 831 00:46:39,417 --> 00:46:42,869 and as he passed, you know, near me, 832 00:46:42,903 --> 00:46:47,908 I looked at Syd and he-- 833 00:46:47,943 --> 00:46:49,979 Like somebody turned out the lights. 834 00:46:50,014 --> 00:46:53,845 His eyes looked very vacant and very-- 835 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,296 It was very distressing. 836 00:46:58,885 --> 00:47:01,784 After their first album, "Piper at the Gates of Dawn," 837 00:47:01,819 --> 00:47:04,097 I remember Syd saying, "I'm not going to mime, 838 00:47:04,131 --> 00:47:05,477 I'm not going to mime." 839 00:47:05,512 --> 00:47:09,481 At that stage, one felt that 840 00:47:09,516 --> 00:47:11,967 Syd was drifting away 841 00:47:12,001 --> 00:47:17,179 from really being integrated with the band 842 00:47:17,213 --> 00:47:19,008 and was beginning to disintegrate. 843 00:47:19,043 --> 00:47:24,772 He really wanted to retain his artistic integrity. 844 00:47:24,807 --> 00:47:28,984 He didn't like the commercialization of the music. 845 00:47:29,018 --> 00:47:32,366 "See Emily Play" really took off after they made 846 00:47:32,401 --> 00:47:34,196 their first Top of the Pops appearance. 847 00:47:34,230 --> 00:47:36,439 They did three appearances for that single, 848 00:47:36,474 --> 00:47:38,752 although Syd refused to do the third one. 849 00:47:38,786 --> 00:47:42,825 He was already showing signs of being rather disturbed, 850 00:47:42,860 --> 00:47:45,034 rebelling against being a pop star, 851 00:47:45,069 --> 00:47:47,865 even before they were proper pop stars. 852 00:47:47,899 --> 00:47:52,973 We were recording a Radio One show at the BBC 853 00:47:53,008 --> 00:47:54,906 and Syd didn't turn up. 854 00:47:54,941 --> 00:47:57,253 I think it was a Friday. 855 00:47:57,288 --> 00:47:59,117 And no one could find him. 856 00:47:59,152 --> 00:48:01,948 So we basically waited and waited 857 00:48:01,982 --> 00:48:03,915 and I think we had to cancel the recording 858 00:48:03,950 --> 00:48:06,366 or we tried to do some without him, I'm not sure. 859 00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,921 And then the managers went off trying to find him. 860 00:48:09,956 --> 00:48:14,098 And when they found Syd, which I think was a Sunday or Monday, 861 00:48:14,132 --> 00:48:18,930 they told us, "Well, something's happened to Syd." 862 00:48:18,965 --> 00:48:22,865 And something had happened to him, total difference. 863 00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:24,522 Total difference. 864 00:48:24,556 --> 00:48:29,320 ♪ 865 00:48:29,354 --> 00:48:33,531 I went to the session when they made "See Emily Play." 866 00:48:33,565 --> 00:48:36,672 Syd was a changed person. 867 00:48:36,706 --> 00:48:38,950 He didn't appear to recognize me at first, 868 00:48:38,985 --> 00:48:41,746 sort of stared right through me. 869 00:48:41,780 --> 00:48:48,339 And had what Roger has very aptly put as black holes 870 00:48:48,373 --> 00:48:50,686 in the sky for eyes. 871 00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:57,520 ♪ 872 00:48:57,555 --> 00:49:02,594 Tales of Syd's erratic behavior were numerous. 873 00:49:02,629 --> 00:49:08,497 I was in the West End and I ran into Syd's girlfriend 874 00:49:08,531 --> 00:49:12,190 in Cambridge Circus and she seemed a bit distressed 875 00:49:12,225 --> 00:49:14,606 and she'd motioned and there was Syd 876 00:49:14,641 --> 00:49:19,404 lying or sitting in the gutter on those little side streets 877 00:49:19,439 --> 00:49:22,683 that goes down to Seven Dials. 878 00:49:22,718 --> 00:49:25,410 And she told me, she said, "He's been taking acid 879 00:49:25,445 --> 00:49:28,241 every day for 7 days." 880 00:49:28,275 --> 00:49:31,589 And he looked just completely out of it. 881 00:49:31,623 --> 00:49:35,903 ♪ 882 00:49:35,938 --> 00:49:37,491 It was hard to tell when he was on it 883 00:49:37,526 --> 00:49:39,666 and when he wasn't on it, actually. 884 00:49:41,599 --> 00:49:46,673 Lindsay and Syd and Nigel and I all went to stay in a cottage 885 00:49:46,707 --> 00:49:53,404 in Wales and we all took LSD and Syd already, 886 00:49:53,438 --> 00:49:56,476 we could hardly communicate with him. 887 00:49:56,510 --> 00:49:57,925 He wasn't really there. 888 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:05,830 He was behaving very strangely and spent one night 889 00:50:05,864 --> 00:50:08,074 balanced on a wine bottle, 890 00:50:08,108 --> 00:50:09,799 with his bare feet on a wine bottle 891 00:50:09,834 --> 00:50:13,562 and his hands on a low beam. 892 00:50:13,596 --> 00:50:16,254 I think he was grinning, probably, but just like that. 893 00:50:16,289 --> 00:50:20,051 Just spinning backwards and forwards. 894 00:50:20,086 --> 00:50:25,056 And I think I was more concerned about his girlfriend, Lindsay, 895 00:50:25,091 --> 00:50:29,026 because I think she was very distressed. 896 00:50:29,060 --> 00:50:33,754 At that time, none of us knew how to handle that. 897 00:50:33,789 --> 00:50:38,207 We were just trying to stay sane ourselves, really. 898 00:50:38,242 --> 00:50:43,212 So I think at that time, we were not equipped 899 00:50:43,247 --> 00:50:46,353 to be able to even begin to help him. 900 00:50:46,388 --> 00:50:49,046 We said, "Oh, it's just poetic genius, 901 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:56,087 it's just LSD, it's just drug induced madness." 902 00:50:56,122 --> 00:50:58,227 We didn't know-- 903 00:50:58,262 --> 00:51:00,954 Well, we had no experience actually of mental illness. 904 00:51:00,988 --> 00:51:04,095 And I think he just slowly 905 00:51:04,130 --> 00:51:09,135 drifted into becoming incomprehensible. 906 00:51:09,169 --> 00:51:13,208 And none of us could help, none of us could help. 907 00:51:13,242 --> 00:51:17,108 We have all these terms now, like bipolar and schizophrenia 908 00:51:17,143 --> 00:51:21,492 and it's quite likely that he did suffer from one of those, 909 00:51:21,526 --> 00:51:24,909 which combined with large quantities of LSD, 910 00:51:24,943 --> 00:51:26,083 sent him over the edge. 911 00:51:26,117 --> 00:51:35,989 ♪ 912 00:51:36,023 --> 00:51:40,338 October 1967: Pink Floyd began a tour of America. 913 00:51:40,373 --> 00:51:43,962 During the first few days, Syd's mental state soon threatened 914 00:51:43,997 --> 00:51:46,172 to undermine it. 915 00:51:46,206 --> 00:51:50,486 We did a tour in '68 of the States. 916 00:51:50,521 --> 00:51:51,901 I mean, just of the West Coast. 917 00:51:51,936 --> 00:51:57,769 I think we only did 3 gigs or something and, you know, 918 00:51:57,804 --> 00:52:00,255 where it was quite clear that he'd gone, 919 00:52:00,289 --> 00:52:04,949 he was no longer with us in any real sense. 920 00:52:04,983 --> 00:52:07,158 We always said, "Well, is Syd going to make it tonight? 921 00:52:07,193 --> 00:52:09,816 Is he going to get on stage, even?" 922 00:52:09,850 --> 00:52:13,613 And then someone came in, I don't know who, 923 00:52:13,647 --> 00:52:17,134 don't know if it was any member of the band and said, 924 00:52:17,168 --> 00:52:18,859 "You've gotta come see what Syd's doing." 925 00:52:18,894 --> 00:52:23,485 And he'd crushed up all these mandrakes and mixed it up 926 00:52:23,519 --> 00:52:26,488 with Brylcreem and then rubbed it in his hair. 927 00:52:26,522 --> 00:52:30,008 And then came on stage and it all started melting. 928 00:52:30,043 --> 00:52:31,148 So bizarre. 929 00:52:31,182 --> 00:52:34,703 One gig he just detuned his guitar on the stage. 930 00:52:34,737 --> 00:52:38,016 Another gig he just played one note. 931 00:52:38,051 --> 00:52:39,742 They had to get a guy called Davy O'List, 932 00:52:39,777 --> 00:52:41,779 who was in The Nice, 933 00:52:41,813 --> 00:52:46,266 who'd flown over to kind of deputize, 934 00:52:46,301 --> 00:52:48,613 bolster Syd because the guitar just wasn't there 935 00:52:48,648 --> 00:52:49,752 a lot of the time. 936 00:52:49,787 --> 00:52:53,756 ♪ 937 00:52:53,791 --> 00:52:57,208 Despite their ailing front man, on their return to Britain, 938 00:52:57,243 --> 00:52:59,452 the band continued to perform. 939 00:52:59,486 --> 00:53:03,835 ♪ 940 00:53:03,870 --> 00:53:05,216 They were setting up for a gig one day 941 00:53:05,251 --> 00:53:07,839 and it was like, "Should we go get Syd?" 942 00:53:07,874 --> 00:53:10,221 And someone said, "No, let's not bother." 943 00:53:10,256 --> 00:53:11,912 And they didn't get Syd, and that's it, 944 00:53:11,947 --> 00:53:14,018 he was out of the band. 945 00:53:14,052 --> 00:53:17,021 When I look back on how we treated Syd, 946 00:53:17,055 --> 00:53:19,265 I don't see a bunch of very kind, 947 00:53:19,299 --> 00:53:21,336 nice people, doing the very best they could. 948 00:53:21,370 --> 00:53:23,027 Everyone was sort of thinking, "Well, how on Earth 949 00:53:23,061 --> 00:53:25,616 can we get this under control so we can carry on?" 950 00:53:25,650 --> 00:53:27,618 It's hard now to say-- 951 00:53:27,652 --> 00:53:30,414 Being wise after the event, there's a lot of other routes 952 00:53:30,448 --> 00:53:34,245 that might have been taken. 953 00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,249 On April 6th, 1968, it was officially confirmed 954 00:53:38,284 --> 00:53:41,839 that Syd was no longer a member of Pink Floyd. 955 00:53:41,873 --> 00:53:44,497 Roger Waters rang me and said, 956 00:53:44,531 --> 00:53:46,878 "The Floyd have a gig tonight in Brighton, 957 00:53:46,913 --> 00:53:49,295 but Syd's just not going to make it. 958 00:53:49,329 --> 00:53:52,539 Would you ring David Gilmour and see if he could pack up 959 00:53:52,574 --> 00:53:54,576 his guitar and join us?" 960 00:53:54,610 --> 00:53:56,819 And David joined the band. 961 00:53:56,854 --> 00:53:59,166 I guess he never looked back. 962 00:53:59,201 --> 00:54:01,583 ♪ 963 00:54:01,617 --> 00:54:03,274 In the beginning, I had no clue what I was doing, 964 00:54:03,309 --> 00:54:05,207 it was probably dreadful and I thought 965 00:54:05,242 --> 00:54:08,245 it wasn't a lot of fun, I have to tell you. 966 00:54:09,901 --> 00:54:12,490 It was a huge relief to have Dave in the band, 967 00:54:12,525 --> 00:54:14,492 didn't have the fear of what's going to happen next, 968 00:54:14,527 --> 00:54:18,013 or whatever and we then started trying to learn to write, 969 00:54:18,047 --> 00:54:20,257 I mean, Roger and me and Dave. 970 00:54:20,291 --> 00:54:24,088 And I'm sure that's when I started doing my improvisation 971 00:54:24,122 --> 00:54:25,848 or whatever on the keyboards. 972 00:54:25,883 --> 00:54:29,680 The songs that came later that Roger and Dave wrote 973 00:54:29,714 --> 00:54:33,822 are very different from Syd's songs. 974 00:54:33,856 --> 00:54:35,893 They're not as dense, they're not as witty, 975 00:54:35,927 --> 00:54:39,034 they're not as jaunty. 976 00:54:40,691 --> 00:54:46,006 ♪ 977 00:54:46,041 --> 00:54:50,321 After leaving the band in 1968, Syd spent the remainder 978 00:54:50,356 --> 00:54:53,842 of the year in a fragile state. 979 00:54:53,876 --> 00:54:57,190 I was in Harrods shopping and I saw Syd, 980 00:54:57,224 --> 00:54:59,365 I don't think he saw me. 981 00:54:59,399 --> 00:55:02,022 I saw him, he had his brown paper bag, 982 00:55:02,057 --> 00:55:08,305 and was buying sweets 'cause I think he just lived on sweets. 983 00:55:08,339 --> 00:55:10,203 That was the last time I saw him. 984 00:55:12,723 --> 00:55:18,901 Syd's departure coincided with them becoming successful. 985 00:55:18,936 --> 00:55:20,213 I'm speaking commercially. 986 00:55:20,247 --> 00:55:22,284 So it was a terrible dilemma. 987 00:55:22,319 --> 00:55:27,013 I mean, Roger felt almost brotherly love for Syd. 988 00:55:27,047 --> 00:55:29,774 I mean, it was more than even that. 989 00:55:29,809 --> 00:55:31,880 He felt responsible for Syd. 990 00:55:31,914 --> 00:55:33,433 They were great friends. 991 00:55:33,468 --> 00:55:35,608 They'd been together for God knows how many years. 992 00:55:35,642 --> 00:55:40,267 It was a real tragedy and Roger for years worried about this. 993 00:55:40,302 --> 00:55:42,891 And still worries about it. 994 00:55:42,925 --> 00:55:46,757 And when Syd died, was still worrying about it. 995 00:55:46,791 --> 00:55:53,764 He died in 2006, from pancreatic cancer. 996 00:55:53,798 --> 00:55:57,837 Commendably, they all made sure he got his royalties, 997 00:55:57,871 --> 00:56:01,496 right up until, you know, he died. 998 00:56:04,222 --> 00:56:09,952 It's a shame for people to remember him as this sort of 999 00:56:09,987 --> 00:56:12,645 burnt-out shell. 1000 00:56:12,679 --> 00:56:16,683 He is one of the few real musical geniuses 1001 00:56:16,718 --> 00:56:23,207 of this pop era, I think. 1002 00:56:23,241 --> 00:56:29,006 Although his actual output is pathetically small, 1003 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,008 it is quite influential. 1004 00:56:31,042 --> 00:56:35,046 The specter of Syd haunted us subsequently. 1005 00:56:35,081 --> 00:56:38,533 I mean, obviously, we went back to it 1006 00:56:38,567 --> 00:56:42,744 with "Wish You Were Here" in a major way. 1007 00:56:42,778 --> 00:56:52,788 ♪ 1008 00:57:30,067 --> 00:57:34,002 Pink Floyd cultivated an impassive on stage demeanor, 1009 00:57:34,036 --> 00:57:37,281 calculated to keep their audiences entirely focused 1010 00:57:37,315 --> 00:57:39,525 on the music and state of the art 1011 00:57:39,559 --> 00:57:42,666 multimedia extravaganza. 1012 00:57:42,700 --> 00:57:46,497 ♪ 1013 00:57:46,532 --> 00:57:49,604 In 1973, after eight albums, 1014 00:57:49,638 --> 00:57:52,848 "Dark Side of the Moon" hoisted Floyd onto a plane 1015 00:57:52,883 --> 00:57:57,094 of popularity few bands experience. 1016 00:57:57,128 --> 00:58:00,649 The pivotal release became one of the most celebrated albums 1017 00:58:00,684 --> 00:58:03,134 in the history of recorded music, 1018 00:58:03,169 --> 00:58:08,588 remaining on the best seller chart for a phenomenal 26 years. 1019 00:58:08,623 --> 00:58:12,558 ♪ 1020 00:58:12,592 --> 00:58:14,767 The next release, "Wish You Were Here" 1021 00:58:14,801 --> 00:58:17,735 became one of the most successful follow-up albums 1022 00:58:17,770 --> 00:58:19,806 of all time. 1023 00:58:19,841 --> 00:58:25,432 ♪ 1024 00:58:25,467 --> 00:58:28,435 The "Wish You Were Here" album is probably 1025 00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:34,821 the best balanced album in terms of the music 1026 00:58:34,856 --> 00:58:38,860 having the emotional strength on its own. 1027 00:58:38,894 --> 00:58:42,795 To me, that works better than "Dark Side of the Moon" does. 1028 00:58:42,829 --> 00:58:47,282 ♪ 1029 00:58:47,316 --> 00:58:48,628 Following "Wish You Were Here," 1030 00:58:48,663 --> 00:58:51,907 the quartet's chemistry rapidly disintegrated. 1031 00:58:51,942 --> 00:58:55,739 ♪ 1032 00:58:55,773 --> 00:58:58,880 When we were making that record, in the aftermath of the success 1033 00:58:58,914 --> 00:59:06,404 of "Dark Side of the Moon," you know, in a way, 1034 00:59:06,439 --> 00:59:08,959 I sort of knew, that really we were over 1035 00:59:08,993 --> 00:59:11,582 as far as the band of brothers 1036 00:59:11,617 --> 00:59:13,411 notion of a pop group was concerned. 1037 00:59:13,446 --> 00:59:15,828 We just weren't anymore and we were never going to be 1038 00:59:15,862 --> 00:59:16,932 that again. 1039 00:59:16,967 --> 00:59:20,108 ♪ 1040 00:59:20,142 --> 00:59:23,387 I think it was the last album where we worked well together. 1041 00:59:23,421 --> 00:59:25,423 I know that when we started off, 1042 00:59:25,458 --> 00:59:27,598 we weren't putting our heart into it. 1043 00:59:27,633 --> 00:59:30,014 The disagreements did start at that point. 1044 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,537 Around that time, I split up with my first wife 1045 00:59:35,572 --> 00:59:39,058 and I remember in the canteen downstairs, 1046 00:59:39,092 --> 00:59:42,786 here at Abbey Road, 1047 00:59:42,820 --> 00:59:44,442 having a nervous breakdown. 1048 00:59:44,477 --> 00:59:46,444 I think that's the only way I can describe it, 1049 00:59:46,479 --> 00:59:48,170 but it was very, very short lived, 1050 00:59:48,205 --> 00:59:51,967 but it was like I was sitting at the table downstairs, 1051 00:59:52,002 --> 00:59:59,285 having something to eat, in a bad way 1052 00:59:59,319 --> 01:00:02,322 and suddenly everything telescoped. 1053 01:00:02,357 --> 01:00:04,635 Everything went down the other end of a telescope. 1054 01:00:04,670 --> 01:00:06,879 It all just went-- 1055 01:00:06,913 --> 01:00:09,364 Everything, and I thought, 1056 01:00:09,398 --> 01:00:11,573 "Fuck me, I'm going mad. 1057 01:00:11,608 --> 01:00:14,024 This is what it must be like." 1058 01:00:14,058 --> 01:00:17,821 Suddenly, reality has changed completely. 1059 01:00:17,855 --> 01:00:21,238 ♪ 1060 01:00:21,272 --> 01:00:25,414 1979 brought the release of "The Wall." 1061 01:00:25,449 --> 01:00:28,763 Conceived by Roger Waters as an ambitious double album, 1062 01:00:28,797 --> 01:00:32,698 a spectacular live show and a groundbreaking feature film, 1063 01:00:32,732 --> 01:00:36,978 "The Wall" went on to achieve iconic status. 1064 01:00:37,012 --> 01:00:41,292 Roger Waters came to me about eight, ten years ago 1065 01:00:41,327 --> 01:00:45,849 and played me the raw tapes of "The Wall" 1066 01:00:45,883 --> 01:00:48,437 and said that he would be making a film of it 1067 01:00:48,472 --> 01:00:51,026 and a show of it, all of which we did. 1068 01:00:51,061 --> 01:00:53,615 And the we started thinking about what images 1069 01:00:53,650 --> 01:00:56,894 would go with the music and what parts we would illustrate. 1070 01:00:56,929 --> 01:00:59,034 I just draw the master drawings, which I pass 1071 01:00:59,069 --> 01:01:03,211 to the master animators and they draw out 1072 01:01:03,245 --> 01:01:05,040 all the main movements. 1073 01:01:07,422 --> 01:01:08,872 "The Wall" was probably 1074 01:01:08,906 --> 01:01:11,978 their most spectacular stage presentation. 1075 01:01:12,013 --> 01:01:15,706 It was all fostered weirdly by Roger spitting on a fan 1076 01:01:15,741 --> 01:01:18,467 during a gig, and he decided he'd like to do a gig 1077 01:01:18,502 --> 01:01:22,333 isolated from the crowd, which led, eventually, 1078 01:01:22,368 --> 01:01:25,371 to the band being gradually covered up by a massive wall 1079 01:01:25,405 --> 01:01:27,373 on stage, which was then demolished. 1080 01:01:27,407 --> 01:01:29,755 They'd really taken the stage show to limits 1081 01:01:29,789 --> 01:01:32,309 that even the Stones had never got to at that point. 1082 01:01:32,343 --> 01:01:34,207 They really were the most excessive, 1083 01:01:34,242 --> 01:01:36,382 huge band in the world. 1084 01:01:36,416 --> 01:01:43,907 ♪ 1085 01:01:43,941 --> 01:01:46,081 It was the biggest and best show that was on the road 1086 01:01:46,116 --> 01:01:49,291 at the time, and looking back at it now, 1087 01:01:49,326 --> 01:01:51,328 it was basically bicycle technology, 1088 01:01:51,362 --> 01:01:53,951 but at the time, it was cutting edge. 1089 01:01:53,986 --> 01:01:57,334 ♪ 1090 01:01:57,368 --> 01:02:01,787 It was a total touring entourage of about 120-130 people. 1091 01:02:01,821 --> 01:02:04,548 It was pretty well organized because it had to be 1092 01:02:04,582 --> 01:02:06,239 because it was such a big machine. 1093 01:02:06,274 --> 01:02:08,897 You were a cog in a machine. 1094 01:02:11,589 --> 01:02:13,971 I saw them do "The Wall" in Naples, 1095 01:02:14,006 --> 01:02:16,353 somewhere completely mad like that. 1096 01:02:16,387 --> 01:02:20,115 Rock and roll in the '80s became show. 1097 01:02:22,117 --> 01:02:25,465 You needed the lasers, you needed the big projection 1098 01:02:25,500 --> 01:02:29,124 at the back, you needed smoke going off, 1099 01:02:29,159 --> 01:02:32,645 you needed Mick Jagger coming up out of the pit, 1100 01:02:32,679 --> 01:02:34,612 as if he's the messiah, 1101 01:02:34,647 --> 01:02:37,443 and then you needed Madonna with pointed breasts, 1102 01:02:37,477 --> 01:02:41,102 I mean, the most pointed breasts ever seen on a human being. 1103 01:02:41,136 --> 01:02:42,966 It's hype, it's ridiculous, in other words, 1104 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,795 it's got nothing to do with music anymore. 1105 01:02:44,830 --> 01:02:48,799 You know, if you're playing to a stadium of 50, 60,000 people, 1106 01:02:48,834 --> 01:02:51,664 which they did frequently, you're not making music anymore. 1107 01:02:51,698 --> 01:02:53,217 They can't hear themselves. 1108 01:02:53,252 --> 01:02:54,978 The audience can't hear it properly. 1109 01:02:55,012 --> 01:02:57,359 To have this huge crowd going-- 1110 01:02:57,394 --> 01:02:59,672 Like this and sort of lighting a candle. 1111 01:02:59,706 --> 01:03:01,467 I mean, it's bollocks! 1112 01:03:01,501 --> 01:03:05,574 In stadiums, it's got nothing to do with music anymore. 1113 01:03:05,609 --> 01:03:12,236 And now they were just this behemoth of a band, 1114 01:03:12,271 --> 01:03:14,929 and it was going to implode and there was something 1115 01:03:14,963 --> 01:03:17,000 of a cocaine problem going on in the band 1116 01:03:17,034 --> 01:03:22,074 and it grabbed several members and that never helps. 1117 01:03:22,108 --> 01:03:28,632 ♪ 1118 01:03:28,666 --> 01:03:30,323 During the recording of "The Final Cut," 1119 01:03:30,358 --> 01:03:32,291 Roger had actually fired Rick from the band, 1120 01:03:32,325 --> 01:03:35,846 which is a very, very sad thing to do to a gorgeous man 1121 01:03:35,881 --> 01:03:37,365 and it didn't make any difference. 1122 01:03:37,399 --> 01:03:39,401 It isn't as if there wasn't enough money to go around, 1123 01:03:39,436 --> 01:03:42,301 let him stay. 1124 01:03:42,335 --> 01:03:43,750 At one point, he'd been relegated 1125 01:03:43,785 --> 01:03:45,476 to being a session man, he'd left the band 1126 01:03:45,511 --> 01:03:47,271 and then he came back, just paid as much 1127 01:03:47,306 --> 01:03:50,619 as the session bass players. 1128 01:03:50,654 --> 01:03:54,969 I do think for him to be hired by the band he helped form 1129 01:03:55,003 --> 01:03:56,384 and paid as a session guy, 1130 01:03:56,418 --> 01:03:59,352 I think that's fairly disgusting. 1131 01:03:59,387 --> 01:04:03,874 That underlying angst in Roger 1132 01:04:03,909 --> 01:04:06,739 has caused him to treat some people 1133 01:04:06,773 --> 01:04:08,603 rather wrongly, I feel, and I think Rick 1134 01:04:08,637 --> 01:04:12,814 being the gorgeous, lovely, peaceful gentleman that he is, 1135 01:04:12,849 --> 01:04:17,232 that he was, meant that he did get the brunt of it. 1136 01:04:17,267 --> 01:04:22,306 They couldn't figure out what Rick contributed. 1137 01:04:22,341 --> 01:04:25,758 I remember several conversations with various other members 1138 01:04:25,792 --> 01:04:27,553 of the band who should be nameless, 1139 01:04:27,587 --> 01:04:30,763 is that they liked him, but they couldn't figure out 1140 01:04:30,797 --> 01:04:32,040 what he contributed. 1141 01:04:32,075 --> 01:04:35,630 And I think that was totally unfair. 1142 01:04:35,664 --> 01:04:39,082 But of course once that idea, that seed of an idea, 1143 01:04:39,116 --> 01:04:43,914 gets planted, then you're almost kind of thinking, 1144 01:04:43,949 --> 01:04:47,366 "I wonder what he contributes," if you see what I mean. 1145 01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:57,410 ♪ 1146 01:05:21,434 --> 01:05:25,749 By the mid '80s, the group began to unravel. 1147 01:05:25,783 --> 01:05:27,613 Relationships got really bad between Roger 1148 01:05:27,647 --> 01:05:29,201 and the rest of the band. 1149 01:05:29,235 --> 01:05:31,755 He was now traveling separately, and the last album 1150 01:05:31,789 --> 01:05:33,791 was entirely dictated by him. 1151 01:05:33,826 --> 01:05:36,587 It was called "The Final Cut" and every track was written 1152 01:05:36,622 --> 01:05:37,830 by Roger. 1153 01:05:37,864 --> 01:05:40,557 He left--by 1995 he was gone. 1154 01:05:40,591 --> 01:05:44,009 It happens, they grow up together, it's a long time. 1155 01:05:44,043 --> 01:05:48,392 And to be expected to be happy living in each other's pockets 1156 01:05:48,427 --> 01:05:51,188 for most of your lives, it doesn't happen. 1157 01:05:51,223 --> 01:05:52,949 It can't happen like that. 1158 01:05:52,983 --> 01:06:00,957 ♪ 1159 01:06:00,991 --> 01:06:05,133 I don't have any power in any of that decision making process 1160 01:06:05,168 --> 01:06:08,757 because the rights in all of the old stuff 1161 01:06:08,792 --> 01:06:11,450 reside with a company called Pink Floyd Music Limited 1162 01:06:11,484 --> 01:06:13,383 and there are four shareholders. 1163 01:06:13,417 --> 01:06:16,248 Rick Wright, Nick Mason, Dave Gilmour, and me 1164 01:06:16,282 --> 01:06:19,458 and we all have one vote so I can always be outvoted, 1165 01:06:19,492 --> 01:06:22,116 and I always am and so I don't really bother 1166 01:06:22,150 --> 01:06:23,738 to have much to do with it 'cause it's a waste 1167 01:06:23,772 --> 01:06:25,464 of my energy. 1168 01:06:25,498 --> 01:06:32,747 ♪ 1169 01:06:32,781 --> 01:06:34,749 Following Roger Water's departure, 1170 01:06:34,783 --> 01:06:37,338 the band members went their separate ways, 1171 01:06:37,372 --> 01:06:41,480 until 1987, when Gilmour and Mason forged ahead 1172 01:06:41,514 --> 01:06:44,172 with the Pink Floyd name, releasing albums 1173 01:06:44,207 --> 01:06:46,243 and staging tours. 1174 01:06:46,278 --> 01:06:49,281 The very first thing they did was to reinstate Rick Wright 1175 01:06:49,315 --> 01:06:51,352 as a full member of the band. 1176 01:06:51,386 --> 01:06:57,496 ♪ 1177 01:06:57,530 --> 01:06:59,498 They don't trash hotel rooms, and they don't hide 1178 01:06:59,532 --> 01:07:01,327 behind security guards. 1179 01:07:01,362 --> 01:07:02,846 Could you imagine the Rolling Stones 1180 01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,676 getting this close to the music press Rottweilers? 1181 01:07:05,711 --> 01:07:09,059 Were you particularly proud of last year's shows? 1182 01:07:09,094 --> 01:07:11,027 Yeah, yeah, very much so. 1183 01:07:11,061 --> 01:07:12,718 For what reason? 1184 01:07:12,752 --> 01:07:15,928 They're very, very good shows, we're proud of the album, 1185 01:07:15,962 --> 01:07:20,967 what we did before, and I think we put together-- 1186 01:07:21,002 --> 01:07:23,142 I think this show is probably one of the best we've ever done. 1187 01:07:23,177 --> 01:07:26,318 I couldn't think of any other band who would start out playing 1188 01:07:26,352 --> 01:07:28,941 to drug crazed hippies and end up playing 1189 01:07:28,975 --> 01:07:32,531 to conservative cabinet ministers and possibly future-- 1190 01:07:32,565 --> 01:07:34,084 I mean, it's not a criticism, I'm just wondering, 1191 01:07:34,119 --> 01:07:35,465 did you ever expect yourself to-- 1192 01:07:35,499 --> 01:07:37,363 There are some areas in which we have gone backwards, 1193 01:07:37,398 --> 01:07:38,916 it has to be said. 1194 01:07:38,951 --> 01:07:42,817 We all still like to be successful and famous, 1195 01:07:42,851 --> 01:07:46,752 all things that apply to us when we were fighting our way up 1196 01:07:46,786 --> 01:07:49,272 sort of 20-something years ago still apply. 1197 01:07:52,758 --> 01:07:55,209 You're on a world tour, does playing in London 1198 01:07:55,243 --> 01:07:57,556 have any added significance for you? 1199 01:07:57,590 --> 01:07:59,213 Oh, it's the hassle in London. 1200 01:07:59,247 --> 01:08:01,284 Thousands of people wanting tickets, all that sort of stuff. 1201 01:08:01,318 --> 01:08:04,425 It's going to be great, it's the first-- 1202 01:08:04,459 --> 01:08:07,117 Actually although people say it's a huge bar, 1203 01:08:07,152 --> 01:08:09,188 it is actually the smallest place we've played 1204 01:08:09,223 --> 01:08:11,639 and it's the last period of our tour, 1205 01:08:11,673 --> 01:08:13,813 so we're finished when we finish here. 1206 01:08:13,848 --> 01:08:15,815 Why do you keep doing it? 1207 01:08:15,850 --> 01:08:16,953 It's what I do. 1208 01:08:16,988 --> 01:08:18,404 Why do you keep doing what you do? 1209 01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:23,099 ♪ 1210 01:08:25,342 --> 01:08:28,794 Go back to your seats now, please. 1211 01:08:28,827 --> 01:08:32,487 Floyd are on a one hundred million pound world tour. 1212 01:08:32,522 --> 01:08:35,318 But a 1,200-seater stand collapsed minutes before 1213 01:08:35,352 --> 01:08:36,835 they went on stage. 1214 01:08:36,871 --> 01:08:39,529 Earls Court was evacuated, the Pink Floyd concert 1215 01:08:39,563 --> 01:08:41,082 was cancelled. 1216 01:08:41,117 --> 01:08:43,153 Now the Health and Safety Executive are examining 1217 01:08:43,188 --> 01:08:45,983 the wreckage to find out what went wrong. 1218 01:08:47,813 --> 01:08:54,233 ♪ 1219 01:08:54,268 --> 01:08:57,823 Things did go wrong quite often. 1220 01:08:57,857 --> 01:09:01,447 In Venice, our show was on a barge. 1221 01:09:01,482 --> 01:09:04,519 This barge was 360 feet long 1222 01:09:04,554 --> 01:09:07,522 and I think it was 120 foot wide 1223 01:09:07,557 --> 01:09:09,282 and 12 foot deep. 1224 01:09:09,317 --> 01:09:11,871 Think of a just a big, steel tank. 1225 01:09:11,906 --> 01:09:14,390 We built the entire show in the docks. 1226 01:09:14,425 --> 01:09:17,532 So the whole stage was on this barge, 1227 01:09:17,567 --> 01:09:20,880 it's the big festival outdoors, stadium stage. 1228 01:09:20,915 --> 01:09:23,607 We sailed in being towed by two tugs, 1229 01:09:23,642 --> 01:09:25,816 really early in the morning, through the mist 1230 01:09:25,851 --> 01:09:28,024 with Jolly Rogers flying off the PA. 1231 01:09:28,059 --> 01:09:31,028 We were the third tallest structure in Venice. 1232 01:09:31,063 --> 01:09:37,449 ♪ 1233 01:09:37,483 --> 01:09:39,002 Dave was standing in downstage center 1234 01:09:39,036 --> 01:09:41,349 looking at all this madness going on around him 1235 01:09:41,384 --> 01:09:43,144 and I went over and said, "Thanks, Dave, 1236 01:09:43,179 --> 01:09:45,767 this is wicked, this is," he said "It is the most 1237 01:09:45,801 --> 01:09:48,322 ridiculous thing I've ever done in my life, Bob. 1238 01:09:48,356 --> 01:09:51,220 I can't believe we're doing this." 1239 01:09:51,255 --> 01:09:53,879 ♪ 1240 01:09:53,913 --> 01:09:56,226 It was meant to be the most spectacular concert 1241 01:09:56,261 --> 01:09:57,814 in the history of rock. 1242 01:09:57,848 --> 01:10:00,437 Two hundred thousand people packed into St. Mark's Square 1243 01:10:00,472 --> 01:10:03,406 to hear Pink Floyd, 100 million watched on television 1244 01:10:03,440 --> 01:10:05,028 around the world. 1245 01:10:05,062 --> 01:10:07,272 But the following morning, there was another spectacle, 1246 01:10:07,306 --> 01:10:10,344 St. Mark's Square under a sea of filth and litter. 1247 01:10:10,378 --> 01:10:12,760 The concert had taken place with few facilities laid on 1248 01:10:12,794 --> 01:10:15,969 for the fans and virtually no public toilets. 1249 01:10:16,004 --> 01:10:18,248 Some fans had clambered onto whatever vantage points 1250 01:10:18,282 --> 01:10:21,077 they could, with inevitable results. 1251 01:10:21,112 --> 01:10:23,115 At least one historic monument was also said 1252 01:10:23,148 --> 01:10:25,048 to have been damaged. 1253 01:10:25,082 --> 01:10:27,809 Venetians were furious and now to defuse the row, 1254 01:10:27,844 --> 01:10:29,327 the mayor says he may resign, 1255 01:10:29,362 --> 01:10:32,331 together with the entire town council. 1256 01:10:32,366 --> 01:10:34,885 Venice is still recovering from last week's concert, 1257 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,267 a team of architects had predicted that the decibel level 1258 01:10:37,302 --> 01:10:39,821 of Pink Floyd's music could cause permanent damage 1259 01:10:39,856 --> 01:10:41,166 to buildings. 1260 01:10:41,202 --> 01:10:42,824 In that case, Venice may be regretting 1261 01:10:42,859 --> 01:10:46,552 the day Pink Floyd came to town for a very long time yet. 1262 01:10:46,587 --> 01:10:53,318 ♪ 1263 01:10:53,352 --> 01:10:56,286 In 1996, Pink Floyd were inducted 1264 01:10:56,321 --> 01:10:59,669 into the US Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, 1265 01:10:59,702 --> 01:11:04,190 followed by the same honor in the UK in 2005. 1266 01:11:04,225 --> 01:11:08,402 It's nice to be loved and for one's contribution 1267 01:11:08,436 --> 01:11:10,335 to be recognized in some way 1268 01:11:10,369 --> 01:11:15,823 and I suppose I do agree that I think that 1269 01:11:15,857 --> 01:11:18,170 we have had an influence. 1270 01:11:18,204 --> 01:11:21,138 I think we're really pleased. 1271 01:11:21,173 --> 01:11:24,245 It is an honor and it's very nice to be recognized 1272 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,559 rather than having to watch other people being inducted. 1273 01:11:27,593 --> 01:11:30,458 ...Floyd into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. 1274 01:11:30,493 --> 01:11:33,668 I think it probably means that this is official, 1275 01:11:33,702 --> 01:11:37,741 that we never, ever have to be a support act ever again. 1276 01:11:37,776 --> 01:11:38,777 Thank you! 1277 01:11:38,811 --> 01:11:41,297 [applause] 1278 01:11:41,331 --> 01:11:44,921 ♪ 1279 01:11:44,955 --> 01:11:51,272 On July 2nd, 2005, for the first time in almost 25 years, 1280 01:11:51,307 --> 01:11:55,311 Pink Floyd reformed for their final performance. 1281 01:11:57,657 --> 01:11:59,452 If the Pink Floyd can agree on what to play, 1282 01:11:59,487 --> 01:12:01,282 surely the G8 summit can agree on what 1283 01:12:01,317 --> 01:12:03,767 to do about sorting out Africa. 1284 01:12:05,666 --> 01:12:07,875 I was intrigued to see it. 1285 01:12:07,909 --> 01:12:12,017 Roger seemed really pleased to be back. 1286 01:12:12,050 --> 01:12:15,538 And Dave seemed less so. 1287 01:12:15,572 --> 01:12:17,022 Now the body language was a bit odd. 1288 01:12:17,056 --> 01:12:19,576 There was obviously animosity there. 1289 01:12:19,611 --> 01:12:23,546 If there was tensions, it was very cleverly disguised. 1290 01:12:23,580 --> 01:12:26,202 If I'm honest, which I am, it was more about 1291 01:12:26,237 --> 01:12:29,379 being with Nick and Rick and Dave on stage again, I think. 1292 01:12:29,414 --> 01:12:32,313 There was an enormous joy in that. 1293 01:12:32,348 --> 01:12:34,522 From the moment we walked into rehearsals, 1294 01:12:34,557 --> 01:12:37,111 which we did on a sort of Tuesday afternoon 1295 01:12:37,145 --> 01:12:39,182 before the thing had started playing, 1296 01:12:39,216 --> 01:12:41,148 it was obvious it was going to be so easy 1297 01:12:41,184 --> 01:12:45,395 because there's nothing complex about any of the music. 1298 01:12:45,430 --> 01:12:47,915 I looked around at one point and there were people in tears. 1299 01:12:47,949 --> 01:12:50,469 It's something that no one thought they'd see again. 1300 01:12:52,333 --> 01:12:55,750 It brought a tear to my eye to see them all up there together, 1301 01:12:55,785 --> 01:12:57,234 delightful. 1302 01:12:57,269 --> 01:13:03,550 ♪ 1303 01:13:03,585 --> 01:13:06,347 The problem with Live 8 was you weren't quite sure 1304 01:13:06,382 --> 01:13:07,416 why you were there. 1305 01:13:07,452 --> 01:13:11,007 On that occasion, you felt 1306 01:13:11,041 --> 01:13:13,492 you were there because you ought to be there 1307 01:13:13,527 --> 01:13:16,150 rather than, "Gosh, isn't it good to see them?" 1308 01:13:16,184 --> 01:13:19,429 A lot of bands have a lot of acrimony, 1309 01:13:19,464 --> 01:13:21,017 a lot of splits and so on. 1310 01:13:21,050 --> 01:13:23,191 One of the reasons I was so happy to be on stage again 1311 01:13:23,226 --> 01:13:26,471 was to say, "Hey, whatever, we disagree, so what?" 1312 01:13:26,505 --> 01:13:27,817 They all stood on the stage with their arms 1313 01:13:27,851 --> 01:13:29,888 around each other, thank God that happened. 1314 01:13:29,922 --> 01:13:31,786 They had buried the hatchet and I'm really glad it happened 1315 01:13:31,821 --> 01:13:36,066 because Rick Wright died, not that long afterwards. 1316 01:13:36,101 --> 01:13:57,812 ♪ 1317 01:13:57,847 --> 01:14:01,782 Everyone was very distressed that he seemed just gone 1318 01:14:01,816 --> 01:14:04,129 for no particularly good reason. 1319 01:14:06,752 --> 01:14:09,065 I was very, very shocked to hear the news. 1320 01:14:09,099 --> 01:14:13,483 And I said, said a few things in my mind. 1321 01:14:13,518 --> 01:14:15,898 Thank you, Rick, thank you for everything you've done for us 1322 01:14:15,934 --> 01:14:17,452 and I'm so pleased to have met you 1323 01:14:17,487 --> 01:14:19,420 and so pleased I worked with you, 1324 01:14:19,455 --> 01:14:21,629 you were such a lovely, lovely man 1325 01:14:21,664 --> 01:14:25,495 and very, very dearly, very sorely missed. 1326 01:14:25,530 --> 01:14:27,393 He was like the life blood of Pink Floyd. 1327 01:14:27,428 --> 01:14:29,016 He was very underrated. 1328 01:14:29,050 --> 01:14:31,915 He was the unseen--if you're talking about geniuses, 1329 01:14:31,950 --> 01:14:35,471 I think you could say he inherited that mantle. 1330 01:14:36,955 --> 01:14:39,853 I was invited to Q to present Pink Floyd 1331 01:14:39,889 --> 01:14:43,651 with the Living Legends Award for 2009. 1332 01:14:43,686 --> 01:14:46,999 It was three weeks after Rick Wright passed away 1333 01:14:47,034 --> 01:14:50,209 and David got the whole of the Grosvenor Hotel 1334 01:14:50,244 --> 01:14:52,522 to stand up in unison 1335 01:14:52,557 --> 01:14:54,800 and raise a glass to Rick's memory 1336 01:14:54,835 --> 01:14:59,666 and it's not often I see people with tears in their eyes 1337 01:14:59,702 --> 01:15:01,980 coming up to me, telling me that was just one of the most 1338 01:15:02,014 --> 01:15:04,465 amazing things they've ever seen, it was amazing. 1339 01:15:04,500 --> 01:15:08,262 ♪ 1340 01:15:08,296 --> 01:15:11,437 Roger just didn't want to know, just didn't want to know. 1341 01:15:11,472 --> 01:15:13,543 Didn't believe it, didn't want to know. 1342 01:15:13,577 --> 01:15:16,373 That was misinterpreted as not caring. 1343 01:15:16,407 --> 01:15:18,548 But I think the extent to which he let it be known 1344 01:15:18,583 --> 01:15:21,793 that he didn't want to know was the extent paradoxically 1345 01:15:21,827 --> 01:15:23,553 that he really desperately cared 1346 01:15:23,588 --> 01:15:25,590 and was very, very upset about it. 1347 01:15:25,624 --> 01:15:29,041 The same with Syd, go right back to Syd Barrett. 1348 01:15:29,076 --> 01:15:31,147 Exactly the same situation. 1349 01:15:31,181 --> 01:15:38,879 ♪ 1350 01:15:38,913 --> 01:15:41,985 Roger Waters and David Gilmour have continued to pursue 1351 01:15:42,020 --> 01:15:46,714 solo careers, occasionally joined by Nick Mason. 1352 01:15:46,749 --> 01:15:49,027 There's almost like a primal therapy thing with Roger, 1353 01:15:49,061 --> 01:15:53,583 to explore his innermost psyche. 1354 01:15:53,618 --> 01:15:56,137 Which is a bit self indulgent, but at the same time, 1355 01:15:56,172 --> 01:15:58,070 there are people who will be able to relate to it 1356 01:15:58,105 --> 01:16:00,003 and he is speaking for a generation 1357 01:16:00,038 --> 01:16:01,108 of people like him. 1358 01:16:01,142 --> 01:16:02,454 I take my hat off to him for that, 1359 01:16:02,487 --> 01:16:04,698 because that takes some doing. 1360 01:16:06,665 --> 01:16:10,013 Dave Gilmour is seen as the face of Floyd now, 1361 01:16:10,048 --> 01:16:15,639 yet he's made solo albums that have done, done pretty well. 1362 01:16:17,849 --> 01:16:21,646 He gave away a house in West London to a charity, 1363 01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:25,028 and a part of that is I think compensating for the fact that, 1364 01:16:25,063 --> 01:16:28,066 "I didn't deserve all this money that I'm earning now." 1365 01:16:28,100 --> 01:16:30,655 He's also not afraid for a bit of experimentation 1366 01:16:30,689 --> 01:16:32,311 because he's just done a new album 1367 01:16:32,346 --> 01:16:35,867 with Dr. Alex Paterson of The Orb. 1368 01:16:35,901 --> 01:16:38,490 Four decades since their first album, 1369 01:16:38,523 --> 01:16:41,251 Pink Floyd continue to inspire rock fans 1370 01:16:41,286 --> 01:16:43,012 around the world. 1371 01:16:43,046 --> 01:16:48,050 ♪ 1372 01:16:48,085 --> 01:16:53,125 I've been in taxis in obscure corners of the third world 1373 01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:56,232 and you know, the glove compartment opens 1374 01:16:56,266 --> 01:16:58,786 and there's two cassettes in there 1375 01:16:58,821 --> 01:17:00,443 and one of them is "Dark Side of the Moon" 1376 01:17:00,477 --> 01:17:02,928 and the other one is Madonna, you know? 1377 01:17:02,963 --> 01:17:07,795 And if you told me that in 1967, 1378 01:17:07,830 --> 01:17:11,799 that 25 years later, I'd be somewhere in Indonesia 1379 01:17:11,834 --> 01:17:16,114 or whatever and see those cassettes in somebody's car, 1380 01:17:16,148 --> 01:17:18,081 I would have thought you were nuts, 1381 01:17:18,116 --> 01:17:20,566 but it's fantastic that it's true. 1382 01:17:20,601 --> 01:17:23,259 Everybody knows of Pink Floyd, you say something to Grandma, 1383 01:17:23,293 --> 01:17:24,880 and Grandma will heard of Pink Floyd. 1384 01:17:24,916 --> 01:17:26,710 It's kind of bizarre. 1385 01:17:26,745 --> 01:17:29,368 It's terrific, I mean, it's so great when people come up 1386 01:17:29,403 --> 01:17:32,958 and say, they'd like an autograph 1387 01:17:32,993 --> 01:17:34,339 and it's not for their Granny, 1388 01:17:34,373 --> 01:17:35,927 it's actually for their children. 1389 01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,343 Pink Floyd music will continue to inspire us 1390 01:17:38,377 --> 01:17:41,484 for centuries to come. 1391 01:17:41,518 --> 01:17:44,832 They captured so much of the spirit of the times. 1392 01:17:44,867 --> 01:17:49,803 Their music is timeless, deep, and wonderful. 1393 01:17:53,358 --> 01:18:03,368 ♪ 110703

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