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♪
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Pete Murray, I'll always
remember Pete Murray,
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'cause he said, "Well, this band
will last two weeks, that's it."
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It really puts us down.
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♪ Set the controls
for the heart of the sun ♪
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♪ The heart of the sun
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♪ The heart of the sun
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Fearless, daring
and sometimes, overreaching,
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the enigmatic Pink Floyd
pushed the boundaries of music
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into new realms
of artistic expression.
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♪
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Their recording career
began during an era
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of black and white television
and ended in the internet age.
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♪
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They're living legends,
they're not just legends.
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They're like the beginning
and the end of a book.
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They started off by causing
a massive splash
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in the psychedelic era,
but then they went on to become
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the biggest of all
the stadium rock bands,
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and they happen to have
this misunderstood genius
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in their ranks who
then went on to become
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an iconic legend.
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♪
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On one occasion,
going, picking Syd up,
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and he was wearing
sort of full make-up.
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Not quite drag,
but towards that.
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And there was just this
sort of blank, let's not,
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let's just pretend it's normal
and carry on.
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♪
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There is no doubt
that Syd was schizophrenic
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and that he was taking medicine
and those drugs
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at the same time.
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You have the responsibility
of how much of this stuff
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you use or don't use because
I don't want to upset--
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I don't want to upset his
brothers, sisters,
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uncles, aunts, anybody who
loves him or whatever, so.
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But you know, I mean,
at this point, you know,
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he was hiding around the door
in the flat with his guitar,
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trying to brain his girlfriend,
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trying to brain Lindsay,
who was living with him.
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And I alerted his family
to his condition
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and tried to get them
to look after him
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and they singularly
failed to do that.
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♪ The heart of the sun
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♪ The heart of the sun
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♪ The heart of the sun
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♪ The heart of the sun
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♪ The heart of the sun
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♪ The heart of the sun
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♪ The heart of the sun
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♪ The heart of the sun
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One of the things I do remember
was the relief when Syd went.
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We knew that it was quite likely
to be a lot of the audience
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who'd say, "Where's Syd?"
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As they continued to do
for the next 30 years.
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♪ The heart of the sun
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♪ The heart of the sun
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♪ The heart of the sun
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♪ The heart of the sun
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Overcoming the loss
of Syd Barrett,
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Pink Floyd had little public
identity outside their albums.
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Their lack of
rock and roll charisma
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prompted many column inches
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devoted to the paradoxical
nature of their success.
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They could look quite devilish,
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'cause they had the light
shining up into their face,
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you know that effect.
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And of course, the drugs helped.
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The thing that one couldn't miss
was the fact that most of them
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were totally disinterested,
I mean, I remember Roger,
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he very defiantly turned
his back on the audience.
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And they all looked
as if they'd been
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to the local charity shop
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to get rather dreary,
second hand clothes.
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It was excruciatingly
embarrassing,
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to the extent that I used to
mostly play with my back
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to the audience.
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And I was really, really,
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very embarrassed
and very nervous
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about what I was doing, I didn't
feel at all sure of myself.
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I didn't know what to play.
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♪
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♪ Witness the man who raves
at the wall ♪
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Pink Floyd have produced some
of the most celebrated music
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of all time.
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They have sold over
a billion albums,
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yet their very public
and acrimonious falling out
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sometimes threatened
to overshadow
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their artistic achievements.
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The problem really
is that you're either fighting
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or you're having fun, there's
not much middle ground really.
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Our personal problems
in the band by that time
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were sort of becoming
more dominant.
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Roger was becoming
more dominant.
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♪ Set the controls
for the heart of the sun ♪
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Dave and I were already
absolutely at loggerheads
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by then and he had one whole
idea about what
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it was going to be like
and I had a whole other idea.
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I'm happy to say,
my idea won in the end.
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♪ The heart of the sun
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♪ The heart of the sun
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♪ The heart of the sun
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♪ The heart of the sun
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Dave and Nick went to Roger
and said we want to tour
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as Pink Floyd.
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He just said,
"You can't tour without me.
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I am Pink Floyd."
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And they said, "Righteous."
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There weren't very many Roger
songs played in our show.
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Let's put it that way.
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I'm sorry, Roger,
it's never been called
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Roger Waters
and the All Stars.
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It's always been called
Pink Floyd.
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♪
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It's a very classic tale.
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You know, when solicitors
tell people,
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"Have your disputes,
but don't put it in writing,"
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they probably have Roger's
letter resigning from Floyd
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in mind as a good exhibit A
in that argument.
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♪
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You have therapy to get over the
business of being in the band.
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We have a show to make.
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[crash]
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Three engines up and ready.
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Three, two...
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Yes, that'd be better.
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All right, I'll head over.
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The Pink Floyd emerged from two
overlapping sets of friends.
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Syd Barrett, Roger Waters
were all Cambridge mates.
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Nick and Rick
came from Pinner.
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Unlike the Stones
and the Beatles,
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they didn't come from
the working class.
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They had very nice,
comfortable backgrounds.
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Unfortunately, I was at school
with Roger Waters.
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It was a strange school.
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It was called the Cambridgeshire
High School for Boys.
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There was nothing high about it,
but my earliest memories of him,
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I guess, were at the school.
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Now, it was a pretty
rough school,
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I mean, it was what might be
called a grammar school.
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But there were various kind
of yobs, like me and Roger,
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who didn't fit in
to the grammar school,
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which was essentially
middle class milieu.
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And both of us definitely
smoked behind the bicycle sheds.
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And definitely were out to burn
the place down
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at the earliest opportunity.
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Roger, he was quite frightening.
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He was quite scary.
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But, he's worn really--he looks
great now, doesn't he?
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And yet he looked weird then
because he had a very long face.
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But he's worn really well,
he has.
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Also attending Cambridgeshire
High School for Boys
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was Roger "Syd" Barrett.
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He was two years below me
at school.
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We became close, you know,
when we were teenagers.
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And when we were all sort of
pretending to be interested
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in Lawrence Ferlinghetti
and Allen Ginsberg
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and talking about smoking dope,
but not doing it.
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It was in about '59,
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which is about the time
I first came across Syd,
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or as he was still, almost then,
Roger Barrett.
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We used to go down to
Grantchester Meadows, on punts,
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and a picnic.
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This is, of course, just prior
to the arrival of pot.
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When eventually that came
our way, we were delighted.
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My first memories of Syd,
really, were of this sparky,
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prince-like, elven creature.
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A very, can I say,
beautiful young man?
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And we knew he was a poet,
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an artist, a painter,
and beginning to play guitar.
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Cambridge, like many
British cities at the time
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was enlivened by
a thriving music scene.
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We used to go down
his mother's house,
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on Hills Road,
of a Sunday afternoon.
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And there would be
jamming sessions.
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I can remember sitting around,
playing acoustic guitars
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with him in Cambridge.
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Roger was at the jam sessions
in Hills Road.
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And it's interesting
because Syd's real name
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was Roger Barrett
and Roger Waters.
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Both called Roger,
both had lost their fathers.
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And I think this really,
really brought them
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very close together.
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I remember when Syd went out
and bought a Futurama III.
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You know, a red,
sort of plastic guitar.
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Whereas before that,
people had been fiddling around
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with acoustic guitars, and Syd,
I remember particularly,
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you know, would learn
to play "Apache."
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♪
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Syd Barrett, the legendary
founder of the Pink Floyd sound
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was to become one of the most
the heavily mythologized men
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in rock.
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♪
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I found Syd very inspiring.
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And he had this sort of
fairy-like quality about him.
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And he turned heads.
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He really did turn heads.
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Even at the age of 14, 15,
a sort of charismatic figure,
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that people would sort of
point at him, talk about him,
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'cause he had some sort
of magnetism.
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I thought, "Wow, that's so
beautiful, he is so lovely."
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And he looked like your sort of
archetypal doomed poet.
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He had these wonderful
violet eyes
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and messy black hair
and he was slender
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and he wore interesting clothes
and he didn't say a lot.
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And it was my mission
to soothe his fevered brow.
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It wasn't until later
though that I managed to get
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on my own with him
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and actually make him
notice me in that way.
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He just was very,
you know, a bright light
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on the scene.
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And I'm sure most people,
including myself,
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had certain jealousies
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of what a bright light
he appeared to be.
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I don't know why,
but we always had this notion
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that when we hit London,
'cause London was the mecca
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and that was where
one had to be,
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that we would start
a band together.
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♪
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By 1966, a new underground
scene was emerging.
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Following two decades
of post-war austerity,
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the economy was booming.
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Idealism and optimism were rife.
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In this Kings Road that London
is lumbered with
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stands just a collation known as
the Antiques Supermarket.
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And "antiques" can mean clothes.
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This lady's time machine
is headed
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for the flapper world
of the '20s.
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Doubtless a trip many a time
traveler would love to take.
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One way of saying "no"
to authority is to parody it.
257
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Some of the young, with little
to say "yes" to, come to Soho,
258
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that pulsating heart
of swinging London
259
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where girls join clubs
to see old men strip.
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Or is it vice versa?
261
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And at the cutely named
I Was Lord Kitchener's Valet,
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buy uniforms of the past
to affront the uniformity
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of the present.
264
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Everything was happening
and it was the Beatles
265
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and "Sgt. Pepper,"
and "All You Need is Love."
266
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We were in the heart of it
and it was amazing.
267
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Very exciting.
268
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That period of the '60s
was a very unique time.
269
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You know, you look at the great
year from the summer of '66
270
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through the summer of '67,
which was the time
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of the most wonderful
ferment and activity.
272
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World's End means
were the Kings Road ends,
273
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which shows what the Kings
Roaders think of themselves.
274
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Granny Takes A Trip, the shop
behind the face calls itself
275
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and it's typical
of the non-typical,
276
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conforming to the
non-conformist's image
277
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of the "in."
278
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What they used to call "way out"
and before that "with it"
279
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and before that "groovy"
and before that "hip"
280
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and what Granny herself
would have called
281
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"the very latest thing,
my dear."
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♪
283
00:16:13,903 --> 00:16:19,392
There is this whole idealized
sort of concept to the '60s.
284
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Some of it's true
and some of it isn't.
285
00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:25,363
The temptation, when thinking
about the middle '60s,
286
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is to think of it in terms
of drug culture.
287
00:16:29,919 --> 00:16:31,818
Not just sex, drugs,
and rock and roll,
288
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but everybody was gone on LSD,
289
00:16:34,579 --> 00:16:38,169
and you know, there was sex
on the hour, every hour.
290
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I mean, the the whole thing must
have been totally exhausting,
291
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if that were true.
292
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Self-evidently
it wasn't true.
293
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♪
294
00:17:00,709 --> 00:17:03,125
Roger Waters, Rick Wright
and Nick Mason
295
00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,025
met during the first year
of an architectural course
296
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in London.
297
00:17:07,542 --> 00:17:10,891
♪
298
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Nick Mason and Roger Waters
299
00:17:12,962 --> 00:17:16,137
were at Regent Street Poly
together.
300
00:17:16,173 --> 00:17:21,040
And like many people, they were
inspired to form a band.
301
00:17:21,074 --> 00:17:24,250
It went through a period
where it was really
302
00:17:24,284 --> 00:17:27,598
a sort of Regent Street Poly
house band almost.
303
00:17:27,632 --> 00:17:29,876
Where all of the rehearsals took
place at college.
304
00:17:29,910 --> 00:17:33,949
There were various
incarnations and names.
305
00:17:33,983 --> 00:17:39,368
They had the Screaming Abdabs,
Sigma 6, The Tea Set,
306
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Megadeaths.
307
00:17:43,096 --> 00:17:44,477
There were a couple of other
characters involved.
308
00:17:44,511 --> 00:17:49,447
Keith Noble and Clyde Metcalfe
were in early lineups.
309
00:17:49,482 --> 00:17:55,143
I mean, I suppose the real start
of the band was with Syd and Bob
310
00:17:55,177 --> 00:17:57,835
and Rick and myself
and Roger.
311
00:17:57,869 --> 00:17:59,906
A couple of them made
the big move to London
312
00:17:59,940 --> 00:18:02,702
and they had a place
at Stanhope Gardens.
313
00:18:02,736 --> 00:18:05,222
And Syd turned up there one day.
314
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By the time he arrived,
I was already playing
315
00:18:07,189 --> 00:18:09,985
with a few other people,
so he kind of joined in.
316
00:18:10,019 --> 00:18:12,850
He was living with a whole
sort of community of people
317
00:18:12,884 --> 00:18:16,371
who were very much believing,
rather like Timothy Leary,
318
00:18:16,405 --> 00:18:20,064
that you know,
acid can release you
319
00:18:20,099 --> 00:18:22,170
and you know,
get to the truth.
320
00:18:22,204 --> 00:18:25,690
♪
321
00:18:25,725 --> 00:18:29,453
He lived in a place called
101 Cromwell Road.
322
00:18:29,487 --> 00:18:32,973
That was just a haven of acid.
323
00:18:33,008 --> 00:18:36,322
People were just dropping it
in people's tea without telling,
324
00:18:36,356 --> 00:18:39,290
it was really, really--
it was really too much.
325
00:18:39,325 --> 00:18:42,949
I like to know
when I was taking my acid.
326
00:18:42,983 --> 00:18:46,608
101 Cromwell Road,
we lived with Syd for awhile.
327
00:18:46,642 --> 00:18:49,714
There were probably five or six
of us and I was the only woman.
328
00:18:49,749 --> 00:18:54,926
David describes 101
as a hip salon
329
00:18:54,961 --> 00:19:00,932
where the great and the good
would come and hang out,
330
00:19:00,967 --> 00:19:03,142
the American Beats,
like Allen Ginsberg.
331
00:19:03,176 --> 00:19:07,663
People like Mick Jagger,
Marianne Faithfull, PJ Proby.
332
00:19:07,698 --> 00:19:11,046
And the early Pink Floyd.
333
00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,807
Every night was a party, really.
334
00:19:13,842 --> 00:19:16,362
People were tripping and...
335
00:19:16,396 --> 00:19:18,226
...the house was full
of beautiful women.
336
00:19:18,260 --> 00:19:23,748
We would take LSD
and we painted our faces.
337
00:19:23,783 --> 00:19:25,302
It was quite mad.
338
00:19:25,336 --> 00:19:32,619
Lysergic acid diethylamide 25,
LSD, came our way.
339
00:19:32,654 --> 00:19:35,726
And I'll tell you this,
it was legal.
340
00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:37,900
Turn on, tune in, and drop out.
341
00:19:37,935 --> 00:19:44,113
The message is very simple,
he said six words.
342
00:19:44,148 --> 00:19:50,050
Turn on, tune in, drop out.
343
00:19:50,085 --> 00:19:55,987
♪
344
00:19:56,022 --> 00:19:58,542
Turning on, tuning in,
and dropping out
345
00:19:58,576 --> 00:19:59,957
is what happens to you
when you take a dose
346
00:19:59,991 --> 00:20:03,271
of the strange new drug
called LSD.
347
00:20:04,996 --> 00:20:07,447
LSD has become a way of life
with its own philosophers,
348
00:20:07,482 --> 00:20:09,760
like poet Allen Ginsberg.
349
00:20:09,794 --> 00:20:11,589
Yes, there's trouble
in the United States.
350
00:20:11,624 --> 00:20:13,867
Millions who would love to come
out to a park like today,
351
00:20:13,902 --> 00:20:17,906
and play with the children
and sing together.
352
00:20:17,940 --> 00:20:21,979
It's strange to be in a body.
353
00:20:22,013 --> 00:20:24,326
Can I sleep with you?
354
00:20:24,361 --> 00:20:26,535
Shall we sing together?
355
00:20:26,570 --> 00:20:28,434
But above all, like,
I don't want to feel bad
356
00:20:28,468 --> 00:20:29,711
or I don't want to, ahh--
357
00:20:29,745 --> 00:20:31,782
I don't want to have
to fight them,
358
00:20:31,816 --> 00:20:34,888
I don't want to fight
myself all the time.
359
00:20:34,923 --> 00:20:36,511
I wouldn't want to
have to fight the camera,
360
00:20:36,545 --> 00:20:39,721
to see the camera as an enemy
or communications as an enemy.
361
00:20:39,755 --> 00:20:42,344
What about the people looking
at this, what do they think?
362
00:20:42,379 --> 00:20:45,485
LSD stands for dextro
lysergic acid diethylamide,
363
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,212
a chemical derived from a fungus
that grows on rye.
364
00:20:48,247 --> 00:20:50,663
It is not addictive
like heroin or cocaine,
365
00:20:50,697 --> 00:20:53,010
but it's far more powerful
in its effects.
366
00:20:53,044 --> 00:20:55,875
Taken in a pill or sugar cube,
it acts in an hour
367
00:20:55,909 --> 00:20:57,601
and lasts up to 24.
368
00:20:57,635 --> 00:21:00,638
During this time, the user soars
into another world
369
00:21:00,673 --> 00:21:04,055
where consciousness is vastly
expanded, or seems to be.
370
00:21:04,090 --> 00:21:07,956
This is the famous
psychedelic experience.
371
00:21:07,990 --> 00:21:11,097
Doctor Timothy Leary,
America's high priest of LSD
372
00:21:11,131 --> 00:21:12,961
and its passionate
public defender,
373
00:21:12,995 --> 00:21:16,309
calls it turning on the mind,
tuning into the infinite,
374
00:21:16,344 --> 00:21:18,622
and dropping out
of the here and now.
375
00:21:18,656 --> 00:21:21,418
But there's another
controversial side of LSD.
376
00:21:21,452 --> 00:21:23,316
Not all trips are happy ones.
377
00:21:23,351 --> 00:21:25,629
Some are upsetting,
and even terrifying.
378
00:21:25,663 --> 00:21:29,943
LSD certainly provides
an intense interpersonal--
379
00:21:29,978 --> 00:21:32,429
non interpersonal,
interpsychic experience.
380
00:21:32,463 --> 00:21:35,328
An intense interpsychic
kind of an experience,
381
00:21:35,363 --> 00:21:38,089
but I would not call it a
consciousness expanding drug,
382
00:21:38,124 --> 00:21:41,230
rather a consciousness
decreasing drug.
383
00:21:41,265 --> 00:21:44,233
♪
384
00:21:44,268 --> 00:21:48,272
Syd, he started to dabble
in this LSD experience
385
00:21:48,307 --> 00:21:50,654
and it was about this time
that we became interested
386
00:21:50,688 --> 00:21:52,828
in Eastern mysticism.
387
00:21:52,863 --> 00:21:56,349
Because having experienced
this universal love,
388
00:21:56,384 --> 00:21:59,697
this wonderful opening of
the doors to perception on LSD,
389
00:21:59,732 --> 00:22:01,561
many of us wanted
to get in touch
390
00:22:01,596 --> 00:22:05,358
with this greater meaning,
naturally.
391
00:22:05,393 --> 00:22:10,708
♪
392
00:22:10,743 --> 00:22:14,678
Perhaps half of us became
what's known as satsangis
393
00:22:14,712 --> 00:22:16,300
and if you wanted
to follow the path,
394
00:22:16,335 --> 00:22:19,061
you had to give up drugs
and alcohol
395
00:22:19,096 --> 00:22:21,719
and become a vegetarian.
396
00:22:21,754 --> 00:22:26,483
Syd asked if he could
be brought in,
397
00:22:26,517 --> 00:22:30,349
initiated into this form
of meditation.
398
00:22:30,383 --> 00:22:32,834
He came around and said that's
what he was going to do
399
00:22:32,868 --> 00:22:35,043
and that he wasn't into
smoking dope anymore.
400
00:22:35,077 --> 00:22:38,426
I said, "You can't stop smoking
dope, you've got to smoke dope."
401
00:22:38,460 --> 00:22:43,016
And he did go to the master
to ask for initiation.
402
00:22:45,916 --> 00:22:50,645
Charan Singh said "no,"
and that was a blow.
403
00:22:50,679 --> 00:22:52,785
He was very upset.
404
00:22:52,819 --> 00:22:55,097
He felt rejected.
405
00:22:55,132 --> 00:22:57,410
I think Charan Singh
could already see
406
00:22:57,445 --> 00:23:02,173
that the man was unbalanced
and that actually probably
407
00:23:02,208 --> 00:23:05,453
traveling to India
wouldn't be a good idea.
408
00:23:05,487 --> 00:23:13,392
Jenny and I actually did go to
stay with Charan Singh in India
409
00:23:13,426 --> 00:23:15,186
and Syd and Lindsay
moved into our room
410
00:23:15,221 --> 00:23:17,879
and things did not go well.
411
00:23:17,913 --> 00:23:24,023
♪
412
00:23:24,057 --> 00:23:28,337
We came back
to 101 Cromwell Road
413
00:23:28,372 --> 00:23:30,374
only to find
that in our absence,
414
00:23:30,409 --> 00:23:33,895
they'd held a
"legalize marijuana" evening.
415
00:23:33,929 --> 00:23:37,174
It had rather drawn
the attention of the Old Bill.
416
00:23:37,208 --> 00:23:39,590
And I felt then,
"Well, you know,
417
00:23:39,625 --> 00:23:46,528
maybe 101 as the center of
excellence has seen its day."
418
00:23:46,563 --> 00:23:48,012
Roger Waters came round
and said,
419
00:23:48,047 --> 00:23:51,982
"Look, I bought this car,
420
00:23:52,016 --> 00:23:55,744
this Chrysler
Plymouth Powerglide.
421
00:23:55,779 --> 00:23:59,852
Who'd like to come down to
Greece, I want to go to Patmos,
422
00:23:59,886 --> 00:24:03,476
where St. John had
the revelations."
423
00:24:03,511 --> 00:24:06,099
"Oh, yeah, Roger, what,
you mean we'll go in the car?"
424
00:24:06,134 --> 00:24:10,483
Yeah, so Jenny, myself,
Roger, his girlfriend, Judy,
425
00:24:10,518 --> 00:24:12,174
and Rick crammed ourselves
426
00:24:12,209 --> 00:24:14,487
into this
Chrysler Plymouth Powerglide,
427
00:24:14,522 --> 00:24:17,594
which was pink, of course,
428
00:24:17,628 --> 00:24:20,942
and set off for Patmos.
429
00:24:20,976 --> 00:24:22,702
So we all went off.
430
00:24:22,737 --> 00:24:25,084
And in the middle of the night,
we're on, I don't know,
431
00:24:25,118 --> 00:24:26,879
motorway,
somewhere in Germany.
432
00:24:26,913 --> 00:24:28,467
Rick was driving.
433
00:24:28,501 --> 00:24:30,676
We woke up.
434
00:24:30,710 --> 00:24:33,402
And it would only go backwards.
435
00:24:33,437 --> 00:24:37,234
So anyway,
it was broken, caput.
436
00:24:37,268 --> 00:24:39,408
We dumped the car
and settled for the train
437
00:24:39,443 --> 00:24:43,309
and got ourselves
a little boat out to Patmos.
438
00:24:43,343 --> 00:24:47,520
Nobody had much money so we
had to rough it quite a lot,
439
00:24:47,555 --> 00:24:50,592
and we found a little house
to live in
440
00:24:50,627 --> 00:24:52,525
and it had no furniture,
441
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,839
and I think Roger and his
girlfriend at the time, Judy,
442
00:24:55,873 --> 00:24:59,325
they just laid
on a mattress upstairs
443
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,846
and I think Nigel and I
slept in the kitchen.
444
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:07,126
The inevitable
tripping occurred.
445
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:11,130
That's where Roger Waters
had his first acid trip.
446
00:25:12,959 --> 00:25:14,720
On the Isle of Patmos.
447
00:25:14,754 --> 00:25:16,549
Where we were looking at
pictures of St. John
448
00:25:16,584 --> 00:25:19,414
the Divine and there
was this beam of light
449
00:25:19,448 --> 00:25:22,451
coming to a hole in his head.
450
00:25:22,486 --> 00:25:24,453
This is obviously
the divine place,
451
00:25:24,488 --> 00:25:27,905
there's a light pouring
into his head.
452
00:25:27,940 --> 00:25:30,632
And I think he found
that quite strange, yes,
453
00:25:30,667 --> 00:25:32,738
never to be repeated.
454
00:25:32,772 --> 00:25:35,188
And I remember asking Roger
if he'd like to be famous
455
00:25:35,223 --> 00:25:37,259
and he said "Yeah!"
456
00:25:37,294 --> 00:25:40,262
They came back and that's
when it all started happening.
457
00:25:40,297 --> 00:25:46,648
♪
458
00:25:46,683 --> 00:25:49,893
Given the musical sophistication
of their latter years,
459
00:25:49,927 --> 00:25:53,241
it is difficult to conceive of
Pink Floyd as a run of the mill,
460
00:25:53,275 --> 00:25:58,936
rhythm and blues band, yet this
is precisely how they began.
461
00:25:58,971 --> 00:26:02,699
♪
462
00:26:02,733 --> 00:26:06,323
Pink Floyd was originally
supposed to be a blues band.
463
00:26:06,357 --> 00:26:11,086
But the blues scene had kind of
passed on in a way,
464
00:26:11,121 --> 00:26:16,609
so I think the Floyd were never
quite serious blues fanatics
465
00:26:16,644 --> 00:26:18,611
the way that some of those
other groups were.
466
00:26:18,646 --> 00:26:20,509
Because of the drugs
and everything, we'd become
467
00:26:20,544 --> 00:26:23,892
tired of the two,
three minute pop song.
468
00:26:23,927 --> 00:26:27,862
And we wanted something
longer to go into
469
00:26:27,896 --> 00:26:31,797
and the Floyd really
were the first music
470
00:26:31,831 --> 00:26:34,282
of acid consciousness,
I mean, they would play
471
00:26:34,316 --> 00:26:37,630
forty minute riffs on one tune.
472
00:26:37,665 --> 00:26:40,322
It would just go on like that,
and that's what we liked
473
00:26:40,357 --> 00:26:43,636
and we could lose ourselves
in the infinite variety
474
00:26:43,671 --> 00:26:46,466
of their solos
and things like that.
475
00:26:46,501 --> 00:26:51,851
By 1966, not only the Beatles,
but a great number of groups
476
00:26:51,886 --> 00:26:56,511
had discovered Ravi Shankar
and all that that entails
477
00:26:56,545 --> 00:26:58,547
and the sitar and the ragas.
478
00:26:58,582 --> 00:27:01,033
You know, a raga can go on
for 30 minutes
479
00:27:01,067 --> 00:27:03,138
and that's just
the introduction,
480
00:27:03,173 --> 00:27:04,588
if you see what I mean?
481
00:27:04,623 --> 00:27:07,729
And Roger had definitely been
to a Ravi Shankar concert
482
00:27:07,764 --> 00:27:09,558
at the Festival Hall.
483
00:27:09,593 --> 00:27:13,977
So, I suspect that that
was where the influence came.
484
00:27:14,011 --> 00:27:27,438
♪
485
00:27:27,473 --> 00:27:30,407
[cheering]
486
00:27:35,895 --> 00:27:41,694
♪
487
00:27:41,729 --> 00:27:46,147
We'd started off playing blues.
488
00:27:46,181 --> 00:27:49,391
And I don't think any of us,
I certainly didn't see
489
00:27:49,426 --> 00:27:52,636
what kind of band
we were going to be.
490
00:27:52,671 --> 00:27:56,019
The early Pink Floyd started off
with a lot of blues
491
00:27:56,053 --> 00:27:58,815
and whatever you call that,
R&B stuff.
492
00:28:00,713 --> 00:28:04,303
And Syd would take them off
into extended sort of jamming
493
00:28:04,337 --> 00:28:08,997
as he got more interested
in the new waves
494
00:28:09,032 --> 00:28:10,412
that was happening at the time.
495
00:28:10,447 --> 00:28:13,277
I remember sitting
with a piece of paper with Syd,
496
00:28:13,312 --> 00:28:15,728
drawing out what the line up
was going to be
497
00:28:15,763 --> 00:28:18,006
and what amps
we were going to have.
498
00:28:18,041 --> 00:28:22,148
Two AC30s we decided was it
and put the vocals
499
00:28:22,183 --> 00:28:24,185
and lead guitar
through one AC30
500
00:28:24,219 --> 00:28:25,807
and the bass
and the rhythm guitar
501
00:28:25,842 --> 00:28:29,086
and the keyboards
through the other one.
502
00:28:29,121 --> 00:28:32,124
So there was very much
a plan always.
503
00:28:34,022 --> 00:28:38,026
The group started by playing
gigs at fringe events.
504
00:28:38,061 --> 00:28:41,789
♪
505
00:28:41,823 --> 00:28:44,688
They managed to get a gig
at this club in Kensington
506
00:28:44,723 --> 00:28:48,657
called The Countdown, where they
were playing 90 minute sets,
507
00:28:48,692 --> 00:28:50,211
three times a night.
508
00:28:50,245 --> 00:28:53,662
And they found
they didn't have enough songs.
509
00:28:53,697 --> 00:28:58,219
So they started making
the songs longer, improvising.
510
00:28:58,253 --> 00:29:03,707
And that's how the Pink Floyd
spacey instrumental started.
511
00:29:03,742 --> 00:29:07,262
♪ Set the controls
for the heart of the sun ♪
512
00:29:07,297 --> 00:29:12,164
♪
513
00:29:12,198 --> 00:29:14,787
Down in the sort of basin
of Notting Hill
514
00:29:14,822 --> 00:29:17,548
there was a place called
All Saints Hall
515
00:29:17,583 --> 00:29:20,413
and the Floyd
were playing there
516
00:29:20,448 --> 00:29:23,692
and when we went
in there and heard them
517
00:29:23,727 --> 00:29:27,282
we realized this was definitely
the music of the future,
518
00:29:27,317 --> 00:29:31,804
it was certainly the future
for awhile.
519
00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:33,702
The thing I remember
about that concert
520
00:29:33,737 --> 00:29:37,534
was it was the loudest noise
I'd ever heard.
521
00:29:37,568 --> 00:29:40,848
My eardrums were ringing
for hours and hours
522
00:29:40,882 --> 00:29:42,332
and hours afterwards.
523
00:29:42,366 --> 00:29:46,336
You could say a lot of the music
we played then was pretty bad,
524
00:29:46,370 --> 00:29:49,270
but I suspect we got away
with some of the stuff we did
525
00:29:49,304 --> 00:29:51,824
because everyone in the audience
was quite stoned.
526
00:29:51,859 --> 00:29:53,722
The guy on Melody Maker,
Chris Welch,
527
00:29:53,757 --> 00:29:55,897
he described them as a sort of
thunderous racket.
528
00:29:55,932 --> 00:29:58,451
He couldn't handle
the improvisations.
529
00:29:58,486 --> 00:30:00,419
They were like
a schizophrenic band.
530
00:30:00,453 --> 00:30:03,629
♪ The heart of the sun
531
00:30:03,663 --> 00:30:06,908
♪ The heart of the sun
532
00:30:06,943 --> 00:30:11,361
♪ The heart of the sun
533
00:30:11,395 --> 00:30:15,710
Certainly for quite some time,
they were death commercially.
534
00:30:15,744 --> 00:30:19,714
I mean, I don't think record
companies wanted to know them.
535
00:30:19,748 --> 00:30:21,854
The audiences certainly
didn't want to know them.
536
00:30:21,889 --> 00:30:25,375
And their later success,
you can't believe that they went
537
00:30:25,409 --> 00:30:30,483
through several years
of not doing well.
538
00:30:30,518 --> 00:30:40,528
♪
539
00:30:56,268 --> 00:31:00,410
I came across the Floyd for
the first time at a money raiser
540
00:31:00,444 --> 00:31:03,206
for the London Free School
at a church hall
541
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,449
in Notting Hill Gate.
542
00:31:05,484 --> 00:31:08,936
And I remember seeing them and
thinking, "Wow, they're great."
543
00:31:08,970 --> 00:31:10,903
They all knew who Joe Boyd
was because he was
544
00:31:10,938 --> 00:31:13,975
the big record producer
of the underground.
545
00:31:14,010 --> 00:31:17,668
Joe was an expatriate American
who was already
546
00:31:17,703 --> 00:31:19,394
a respected record producer
547
00:31:19,429 --> 00:31:22,225
and plus he was instrumental
in all the stuff
548
00:31:22,259 --> 00:31:23,467
going on in the '60s.
549
00:31:23,502 --> 00:31:33,581
♪
550
00:31:33,615 --> 00:31:36,170
By the summer of 1966,
551
00:31:36,204 --> 00:31:38,793
Pink Floyd had acquired
two managers.
552
00:31:38,827 --> 00:31:41,106
Peter Jenner and Andrew King.
553
00:31:41,140 --> 00:31:43,039
I knew Peter Jenner
and Andrew King,
554
00:31:43,073 --> 00:31:45,455
and I was the only person
they knew in the music business,
555
00:31:45,489 --> 00:31:47,975
so they said here's a tape
of this group.
556
00:31:48,009 --> 00:31:50,632
I actually tried to--
immediately tried to get Elektra
557
00:31:50,667 --> 00:31:53,359
who I was still working for,
to sign them.
558
00:31:53,394 --> 00:31:57,467
And the boss of Elektra came to
England and we set up a showcase
559
00:31:57,501 --> 00:32:01,850
for them and he wasn't
interested and I got fired.
560
00:32:01,885 --> 00:32:03,576
But I really wanted to stay
in Britain,
561
00:32:03,611 --> 00:32:07,718
but I needed a source of income,
I mean, some way to pay my rent.
562
00:32:07,753 --> 00:32:11,205
Then I started bringing people
down to the Palace Square
563
00:32:11,239 --> 00:32:12,965
to hear the Floyd.
564
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,726
You didn't have to be a genius
to figure out that they were,
565
00:32:15,761 --> 00:32:17,004
that Syd was writing
great songs
566
00:32:17,038 --> 00:32:19,523
and this was a really
interesting group.
567
00:32:22,009 --> 00:32:25,874
Joe Boyd found a new vocation
and opened Britain's first
568
00:32:25,909 --> 00:32:27,980
psychedelic rock club.
569
00:32:28,015 --> 00:32:31,984
We opened UFO on
the 23rd of December, 1966,
570
00:32:32,019 --> 00:32:34,469
the Floyd booked.
571
00:32:34,504 --> 00:32:37,058
And we didn't really know
who was gonna turn up.
572
00:32:37,093 --> 00:32:39,888
I mean, our only advertising,
I think we had a little tiny ad
573
00:32:39,923 --> 00:32:44,100
in Melody Maker and an ad
in International Times
574
00:32:44,134 --> 00:32:48,242
and we passed out little
leaflets in Portobello Road
575
00:32:48,276 --> 00:32:50,692
the previous Saturday.
576
00:32:50,727 --> 00:32:53,799
We were very nervous,
'cause we'd agreed to pay
577
00:32:53,833 --> 00:32:57,492
I think 15 pounds for the rental
of this Irish dance hall
578
00:32:57,527 --> 00:32:58,977
for the night, Friday night,
579
00:32:59,011 --> 00:33:01,496
and it was freezing cold,
580
00:33:01,531 --> 00:33:05,155
and who knew who
was gonna show up.
581
00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:08,296
And in fact,
we packed the place.
582
00:33:08,331 --> 00:33:13,750
And...I would have to call
the audience, generally,
583
00:33:13,784 --> 00:33:16,339
what you would refer to
as freaks.
584
00:33:16,373 --> 00:33:20,136
♪
585
00:33:20,170 --> 00:33:22,069
UFO was pretty seedy.
586
00:33:22,103 --> 00:33:23,794
There was nowhere
to sit, really.
587
00:33:23,829 --> 00:33:26,280
You'd just all lie there,
sort of out of your mind
588
00:33:26,314 --> 00:33:28,040
staring up at the stage
589
00:33:28,075 --> 00:33:29,973
or the films or whatever
590
00:33:30,008 --> 00:33:33,356
because it really was a place
just to drop acid and go to.
591
00:33:33,390 --> 00:33:37,636
There was people...
592
00:33:37,670 --> 00:33:39,500
actually were astonished
593
00:33:39,534 --> 00:33:42,537
to find that there
were so many like them.
594
00:33:42,572 --> 00:33:46,265
They came down, they went,
"Oh wow, we are not alone."
595
00:33:46,300 --> 00:33:49,889
You know, "Me and my friends
are not the only people
596
00:33:49,924 --> 00:33:53,928
dressing in crazy clothes
and taking funny substances
597
00:33:53,962 --> 00:33:55,757
and wanting to listen
to this kind of music."
598
00:33:55,792 --> 00:33:59,382
So it was kind of revelation
for me and for the audience
599
00:33:59,416 --> 00:34:02,074
to see that there were so many
people who were interested.
600
00:34:02,109 --> 00:34:08,494
♪
601
00:34:08,529 --> 00:34:09,806
The Pink Floyd, once called
602
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,188
the "underground's
house orchestra."
603
00:34:12,222 --> 00:34:14,811
On Friday nights, they and
other groups play at UFO,
604
00:34:14,844 --> 00:34:18,263
U-F-O,
Unidentified Flying Object,
605
00:34:18,297 --> 00:34:21,231
a night time environment where
films, projection, and music
606
00:34:21,266 --> 00:34:25,097
make the underground's nightclub
a huge entertainment scene.
607
00:34:25,132 --> 00:34:28,859
For the rest of the week it is,
improbably, an Irish dance hall.
608
00:34:28,893 --> 00:34:31,344
It's here that the underground
becomes most obviously
609
00:34:31,379 --> 00:34:33,105
a young people's movement.
610
00:34:33,139 --> 00:34:34,795
The only people over about 30
611
00:34:34,831 --> 00:34:37,764
are reporters come to
investigate what's going on.
612
00:34:37,799 --> 00:34:40,284
They're treated with amused
tolerance by the people
613
00:34:40,319 --> 00:34:42,494
they're investigating.
614
00:34:42,527 --> 00:34:46,291
One of the aims here is to make
music a felt experience.
615
00:34:46,324 --> 00:34:49,087
To make the patterns of light
and sound merge and fuse
616
00:34:49,121 --> 00:34:51,123
deep inside each listener.
617
00:34:51,158 --> 00:34:55,817
The attempt has been called
psychedelic or mind expanding.
618
00:34:55,851 --> 00:34:58,372
Psychedelic is a silly term
used by commentators
619
00:34:58,406 --> 00:35:00,063
as a blanket word
to cover anything
620
00:35:00,098 --> 00:35:01,892
they don't fully understand.
621
00:35:01,927 --> 00:35:04,516
If this is psychedelic,
then psychedelic music
622
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:06,621
may be with us for some time.
623
00:35:06,656 --> 00:35:09,314
Many people claim it to be
the next popular music,
624
00:35:09,348 --> 00:35:13,421
music as experience,
not as melody.
625
00:35:13,456 --> 00:35:16,493
♪
626
00:35:16,528 --> 00:35:19,772
I was taking a few trips then
and I was just lying
627
00:35:19,807 --> 00:35:25,192
on the floor while they played,
not in my body.
628
00:35:25,226 --> 00:35:29,713
And being transported, you know,
hundreds, millions, light years
629
00:35:29,748 --> 00:35:33,890
up into the cosmos
on the sounds of their music.
630
00:35:33,924 --> 00:35:38,791
♪
631
00:35:38,826 --> 00:35:44,349
The group decorated those great
songs with long improvisations
632
00:35:44,383 --> 00:35:47,490
and played them in front of
bouncing lights
633
00:35:47,524 --> 00:35:52,426
and pulsing colors
and all that kind of thing.
634
00:35:52,460 --> 00:35:54,600
That was great
because it just enhanced
635
00:35:54,635 --> 00:36:00,986
the whole experience
and I wasn't alone,
636
00:36:01,020 --> 00:36:03,644
I mean, everybody felt that way.
637
00:36:03,678 --> 00:36:06,164
It was very obscure
and very odd.
638
00:36:06,198 --> 00:36:10,202
And the whole effect
was mesmerizing
639
00:36:10,237 --> 00:36:13,378
and they were dressed in their
beautiful satins and silks
640
00:36:13,412 --> 00:36:18,555
and the lights were shining on
them and they were like sort of
641
00:36:18,590 --> 00:36:21,524
colorful gargoyles almost.
642
00:36:21,558 --> 00:36:24,665
The underground movement
in London is small, as yet.
643
00:36:24,699 --> 00:36:27,426
Elsewhere, it has become
a great force.
644
00:36:27,461 --> 00:36:30,498
Instant theater, happenings,
light and sound shows,
645
00:36:30,533 --> 00:36:32,707
psychedelic music is spreading.
646
00:36:32,742 --> 00:36:37,333
Today's underground may be the
answer to tomorrow's leisure.
647
00:36:37,367 --> 00:36:40,681
We were the so-called
beautiful people,
648
00:36:40,715 --> 00:36:42,993
but the News of the World,
649
00:36:43,028 --> 00:36:44,788
who must have heard
about all this
650
00:36:44,823 --> 00:36:46,204
and come down and had a look,
651
00:36:46,238 --> 00:36:50,587
said there were people
there injecting reefers,
652
00:36:50,622 --> 00:36:54,350
which is--yes,
I'd like to try and do that.
653
00:36:54,384 --> 00:36:57,801
So the outside world
was starting to cop on
654
00:36:57,836 --> 00:37:01,564
to what was happening
on the so-called underground.
655
00:37:01,598 --> 00:37:10,952
♪
656
00:37:10,987 --> 00:37:13,714
I was asked by the editor
of the News of the World
657
00:37:13,748 --> 00:37:17,304
if I had any photographs
of the Pink Floyd
658
00:37:17,338 --> 00:37:22,792
and I said, "Oh no," but then I
arranged them with Peter Jenner
659
00:37:22,826 --> 00:37:24,518
who was their manager
at the time.
660
00:37:24,552 --> 00:37:28,280
And they said," Yes, come along,
photograph them."
661
00:37:28,315 --> 00:37:30,938
I was nervous when he said
to me, "Don't accept any food,
662
00:37:30,972 --> 00:37:33,251
drinks, cigarettes
or anything like that."
663
00:37:33,285 --> 00:37:36,806
I didn't ask why and I just
accepted what he said.
664
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,842
I went there and they were so
kind, they were so nice
665
00:37:38,877 --> 00:37:40,154
and they said, "Would you like
a cup of tea?"
666
00:37:40,188 --> 00:37:42,674
And I said, "Oh, no,"
terrified, you know?
667
00:37:42,708 --> 00:37:49,059
They seemed like four very well
educated public school boys.
668
00:37:49,094 --> 00:37:52,304
[shutter clicking]
669
00:37:52,339 --> 00:37:55,031
They were rather bewildered
in actual fact, yes.
670
00:37:55,065 --> 00:37:57,861
I think that's quite
a good word, bewildered.
671
00:37:57,896 --> 00:38:07,077
♪
672
00:38:07,112 --> 00:38:10,357
And I don't think they'd
ever, you know, been asked
673
00:38:10,391 --> 00:38:12,186
to move the instruments.
674
00:38:12,220 --> 00:38:14,257
They were kind of looking
quizzically at each other,
675
00:38:14,292 --> 00:38:17,536
thinking, "I wonder what
this mad woman wants."
676
00:38:19,262 --> 00:38:21,989
I was asked to go again because
the first time they all looked
677
00:38:22,023 --> 00:38:25,130
rather, a bit odd really,
somewhat.
678
00:38:25,164 --> 00:38:28,167
And Jenner said, you know,
he'd prefer to have another set
679
00:38:28,202 --> 00:38:32,206
of pictures, where Syd Barrett
didn't look so spaced out.
680
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:34,691
But in the second shoot,
Syd took control
681
00:38:34,726 --> 00:38:38,074
and they responded to him,
whatever he said
682
00:38:38,108 --> 00:38:40,421
of the whole session, really.
683
00:38:42,734 --> 00:38:46,772
News of the World used it
for an exposé on drugs.
684
00:38:46,807 --> 00:38:49,741
I'd hadn't realized that that's
what they wanted it for.
685
00:38:49,775 --> 00:38:54,332
I thought, "Oh crikey,
I'm going to be sued," you know?
686
00:38:54,366 --> 00:38:58,888
It's hard to say how many people
were high or not.
687
00:38:58,922 --> 00:39:01,442
Probably in the first month,
688
00:39:01,477 --> 00:39:03,582
there was probably
a pretty good percentage,
689
00:39:03,617 --> 00:39:05,998
but then the combination
of the fact that the publicity
690
00:39:06,033 --> 00:39:09,105
drew a lot of outsiders
or people who hadn't
691
00:39:09,139 --> 00:39:11,072
had much experience
taking drugs.
692
00:39:11,107 --> 00:39:15,456
Plus, the fact that police got
interested and started searching
693
00:39:15,491 --> 00:39:19,667
people in the queue outside
meant as the crowds got bigger,
694
00:39:19,702 --> 00:39:22,429
they got a little bit
straighter.
695
00:39:22,463 --> 00:39:25,466
♪
696
00:39:25,501 --> 00:39:29,505
The Floyd's number one priority
was to release a record.
697
00:39:31,679 --> 00:39:35,580
In January 1967, Joe Boyd
steered the group
698
00:39:35,614 --> 00:39:38,445
into Chelsea's
Sound Techniques Studios
699
00:39:38,479 --> 00:39:42,034
to record the Barrett penned
song, "Arnold Layne."
700
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,555
They were a pleasure
to work with,
701
00:39:45,590 --> 00:39:48,109
we had a lot of fun doing
"Arnold Layne"
702
00:39:48,144 --> 00:39:51,423
and the B-side and we did it.
703
00:39:51,458 --> 00:39:53,701
I mean, we did it
in one evening,
704
00:39:53,736 --> 00:39:55,772
recorded it and mixed it
the next night.
705
00:39:55,807 --> 00:39:58,948
I mean, it wasn't a big,
long process,
706
00:39:58,982 --> 00:40:01,847
but it was a lot of fun.
707
00:40:01,882 --> 00:40:04,367
It reached about number 20
in the charts.
708
00:40:04,402 --> 00:40:08,647
It got banned on Radio London
for encouraging transvest-ism
709
00:40:08,682 --> 00:40:10,200
or something.
710
00:40:10,235 --> 00:40:13,341
Well it's about a guy sniffing
girls panties in the backyard,
711
00:40:13,376 --> 00:40:17,415
you know, it's a bit naughty.
712
00:40:17,449 --> 00:40:20,141
You know, and this was 1967,
the BBC wasn't--
713
00:40:20,176 --> 00:40:23,800
They'd only just started playing
pop music really
714
00:40:23,835 --> 00:40:25,699
and all of a sudden they're
presented with this record
715
00:40:25,733 --> 00:40:29,081
about a guy who
is kind of a pervert,
716
00:40:29,116 --> 00:40:33,085
so their response was to ban it,
which of course,
717
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,640
gave it a lot of publicity.
718
00:40:35,674 --> 00:40:37,849
Now, I think it was
a good enough record
719
00:40:37,883 --> 00:40:42,785
to get higher in the charts
if they hadn't banned it,
720
00:40:42,819 --> 00:40:45,063
but you could equally make
the argument that it got
721
00:40:45,097 --> 00:40:47,445
into the charts at all because
they did ban it.
722
00:40:47,479 --> 00:40:50,517
Who knows?
723
00:40:50,551 --> 00:40:53,416
Record label EMI
was suitably impressed,
724
00:40:53,451 --> 00:40:55,280
and signed the Pink Floyd
on the basis
725
00:40:55,314 --> 00:40:57,351
the band agreed to work
exclusively
726
00:40:57,385 --> 00:41:01,838
with staff producers at the
label's own Abbey Road Studios,
727
00:41:01,873 --> 00:41:05,532
leaving Joe Boyd
unceremoniously dumped.
728
00:41:05,566 --> 00:41:10,537
♪
729
00:41:10,571 --> 00:41:13,471
Peter Jenner and Andrew King,
they were able to get a deal
730
00:41:13,505 --> 00:41:17,198
with EMI and they signed
for 5,000 pounds.
731
00:41:18,959 --> 00:41:20,685
I wasn't upset
that they signed EMI,
732
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,723
although, yeah, I was upset
that they didn't sign
733
00:41:24,758 --> 00:41:29,348
my deal with my company
through--to Polydor,
734
00:41:29,383 --> 00:41:32,869
but I was particularly upset
when EMI said,
735
00:41:32,904 --> 00:41:34,388
"No, no, no we can't use
Joe Boyd,
736
00:41:34,422 --> 00:41:36,701
we're going to use
our own producer."
737
00:41:36,735 --> 00:41:39,289
That was not good.
738
00:41:39,324 --> 00:41:41,878
♪
739
00:41:41,913 --> 00:41:46,849
Joe was terrific for us and
produced two really good singles
740
00:41:46,883 --> 00:41:50,369
and then it all went
a different way.
741
00:41:50,404 --> 00:41:53,269
The band settled into recording
their debut album,
742
00:41:53,303 --> 00:41:58,274
"Piper at the Gates of Dawn"
in Studio 3, Abbey Road.
743
00:41:58,308 --> 00:42:00,759
Meanwhile, in Studio 2,
the Beatles
744
00:42:00,794 --> 00:42:04,418
were working on "Sgt. Pepper's
Lonely Hearts Club Band."
745
00:42:04,452 --> 00:42:06,869
One of the things that did work
for us really well
746
00:42:06,903 --> 00:42:10,666
was EMI as a record company
because we rearranged
747
00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:13,841
our record deal so that we had
pretty unlimited studio time.
748
00:42:13,876 --> 00:42:15,981
And we spent a lot of time
in the studios,
749
00:42:16,016 --> 00:42:18,156
and we spent a lot of time
learning things.
750
00:42:18,190 --> 00:42:22,436
And a lot of it was very much
thanks to The Beatles.
751
00:42:22,470 --> 00:42:24,921
They were working on
"Piper at the Gates of Dawn"
752
00:42:24,956 --> 00:42:32,101
in the Abbey Road Studios,
in a studio and next door
753
00:42:32,135 --> 00:42:34,137
the Beatles were working
on "Sgt. Pepper."
754
00:42:34,172 --> 00:42:36,174
They certainly visited
each other
755
00:42:36,208 --> 00:42:38,314
and listened to what
each other were doing
756
00:42:38,348 --> 00:42:41,593
and then out came the most
psychedelic record
757
00:42:41,628 --> 00:42:44,769
the Beatles ever did.
758
00:42:44,803 --> 00:42:48,151
"Piper at the Gates of Dawn"
was to draw frequent comparisons
759
00:42:48,186 --> 00:42:51,741
with "Pepper" in the wake
of its release and ascendancy
760
00:42:51,776 --> 00:42:54,572
on the British LP charts.
761
00:42:54,606 --> 00:42:57,298
Good rock musicians,
like good composers,
762
00:42:57,333 --> 00:42:59,991
like good artists anywhere,
they're like magpies.
763
00:43:00,025 --> 00:43:01,855
They'll steal bits from here
and bits from there.
764
00:43:01,889 --> 00:43:06,618
They all do it,
nothing wrong with that,
765
00:43:06,653 --> 00:43:09,690
provided what you're making
is something new
766
00:43:09,725 --> 00:43:14,971
and, I mean,
a musician as attuned
767
00:43:15,006 --> 00:43:17,698
and as acute as John Lennon,
768
00:43:17,733 --> 00:43:20,494
there is no way he wouldn't
have picked up on what
769
00:43:20,528 --> 00:43:24,809
others were doing and seeing
is there any way I can use this.
770
00:43:24,843 --> 00:43:26,362
There's nothing wrong with that,
771
00:43:26,396 --> 00:43:29,676
I think that's the process
of all great art.
772
00:43:29,710 --> 00:43:34,922
Syd was using a Zippo lighter to
do a sort of slide guitar effect
773
00:43:34,957 --> 00:43:39,375
and Rick Wright, he was always
trying to work out new noises
774
00:43:39,409 --> 00:43:41,998
to get out of his keyboard.
775
00:43:42,033 --> 00:43:47,383
♪
776
00:43:47,417 --> 00:43:53,458
Lennon felt that Pink Floyd were
on the cusp of doing something
777
00:43:53,492 --> 00:43:56,357
really important, again because
of the Indian connection,
778
00:43:56,392 --> 00:43:58,394
because by then they'd been
to the Maharishi
779
00:43:58,428 --> 00:44:03,019
and they for certain,
a rather short time,
780
00:44:03,054 --> 00:44:06,264
they wore a lot of beads
and flowers in their hair
781
00:44:06,298 --> 00:44:08,231
and talked rubbish
about you know,
782
00:44:08,266 --> 00:44:09,750
transcendental meditation.
783
00:44:09,785 --> 00:44:12,546
I mean, it was absolute garbage,
but there we are.
784
00:44:12,580 --> 00:44:16,205
We've had enough acid,
it'd done all it can do for us,
785
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,138
you know, there was no
going any further
786
00:44:18,172 --> 00:44:19,967
it only does so much.
787
00:44:20,002 --> 00:44:21,520
Are you experiencing
the subtler state
788
00:44:21,555 --> 00:44:23,315
of thought at this moment?
789
00:44:23,350 --> 00:44:27,699
No, I am out in the grass,
speaking--
790
00:44:27,734 --> 00:44:30,391
What do you have to do to obtain
this state of thought?
791
00:44:30,426 --> 00:44:33,256
Just a few instructions
from a trained teacher,
792
00:44:33,291 --> 00:44:35,120
and one begins
to experience it.
793
00:44:35,155 --> 00:44:37,088
How long does it take?
794
00:44:37,122 --> 00:44:38,848
About half an hour.
795
00:44:38,883 --> 00:44:41,402
How do you know
when it's happened?
796
00:44:41,437 --> 00:44:43,784
One begins to feel relaxed.
797
00:44:43,819 --> 00:44:45,924
Right from the beginning,
one begins to feel
798
00:44:45,959 --> 00:44:48,444
some improved level
of well being.
799
00:44:48,478 --> 00:44:50,929
You just feel more energetic,
800
00:44:50,964 --> 00:44:53,173
just simply for doing work
or anything.
801
00:44:53,207 --> 00:44:55,520
You just come out
of it like,
802
00:44:55,554 --> 00:44:57,349
"Let's get going," you know?
803
00:44:57,384 --> 00:45:08,636
♪
804
00:45:14,159 --> 00:45:17,818
"Piper at the Gates of Dawn"
was rapturously received
805
00:45:17,853 --> 00:45:19,993
and the band became
the musical darlings
806
00:45:20,027 --> 00:45:22,892
of the flowering counterculture.
807
00:45:22,927 --> 00:45:30,486
♪
808
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,764
We were touring
virtually everyday.
809
00:45:32,799 --> 00:45:34,421
We were having
the screaming girls
810
00:45:34,455 --> 00:45:38,321
and Syd was definitely a star
and he did like it, actually.
811
00:45:38,356 --> 00:45:40,738
I think Syd really enjoyed
that part of the whole,
812
00:45:40,772 --> 00:45:42,601
the fame thing.
813
00:45:42,636 --> 00:45:45,294
And I think the rest of us
were more uncomfortable with it.
814
00:45:45,328 --> 00:45:48,090
The album did really well,
the first one,
815
00:45:48,124 --> 00:45:49,781
but they were on
the Top of the Pops
816
00:45:49,816 --> 00:45:53,578
doing "See Emily Play,"
which got in the top ten,
817
00:45:53,612 --> 00:45:55,200
but on the other hand,
if you went to see them live,
818
00:45:55,235 --> 00:45:57,306
they'd play
"Interstellar Overdrive"
819
00:45:57,340 --> 00:45:58,928
for like half an hour.
820
00:45:58,963 --> 00:46:02,656
They were very exploratory,
yet they had pop songs
821
00:46:02,690 --> 00:46:04,658
that got in the charts
and they had this balance going
822
00:46:04,692 --> 00:46:08,317
for awhile,
until everything changed.
823
00:46:08,351 --> 00:46:13,736
♪
824
00:46:13,771 --> 00:46:17,498
Even at this early stage,
Syd Barrett was showing signs
825
00:46:17,533 --> 00:46:19,569
of mental fragility.
826
00:46:21,848 --> 00:46:24,851
They'd stopped playing at UFO
because they got too big,
827
00:46:24,885 --> 00:46:29,856
but they'd said,
"We'll come back in the summer
828
00:46:29,890 --> 00:46:32,548
and play a gig here
for the old price,
829
00:46:32,582 --> 00:46:35,793
just for old time's sake."
830
00:46:35,827 --> 00:46:39,382
And so they did
and he came in
831
00:46:39,417 --> 00:46:42,869
and as he passed,
you know, near me,
832
00:46:42,903 --> 00:46:47,908
I looked at Syd and he--
833
00:46:47,943 --> 00:46:49,979
Like somebody turned out
the lights.
834
00:46:50,014 --> 00:46:53,845
His eyes looked very vacant
and very--
835
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,296
It was very distressing.
836
00:46:58,885 --> 00:47:01,784
After their first album,
"Piper at the Gates of Dawn,"
837
00:47:01,819 --> 00:47:04,097
I remember Syd saying,
"I'm not going to mime,
838
00:47:04,131 --> 00:47:05,477
I'm not going to mime."
839
00:47:05,512 --> 00:47:09,481
At that stage, one felt
that
840
00:47:09,516 --> 00:47:11,967
Syd was drifting away
841
00:47:12,001 --> 00:47:17,179
from really being integrated
with the band
842
00:47:17,213 --> 00:47:19,008
and was beginning
to disintegrate.
843
00:47:19,043 --> 00:47:24,772
He really wanted to retain
his artistic integrity.
844
00:47:24,807 --> 00:47:28,984
He didn't like the
commercialization of the music.
845
00:47:29,018 --> 00:47:32,366
"See Emily Play" really took off
after they made
846
00:47:32,401 --> 00:47:34,196
their first
Top of the Pops appearance.
847
00:47:34,230 --> 00:47:36,439
They did three appearances
for that single,
848
00:47:36,474 --> 00:47:38,752
although Syd refused
to do the third one.
849
00:47:38,786 --> 00:47:42,825
He was already showing signs
of being rather disturbed,
850
00:47:42,860 --> 00:47:45,034
rebelling against being
a pop star,
851
00:47:45,069 --> 00:47:47,865
even before they were
proper pop stars.
852
00:47:47,899 --> 00:47:52,973
We were recording a Radio One
show at the BBC
853
00:47:53,008 --> 00:47:54,906
and Syd didn't turn up.
854
00:47:54,941 --> 00:47:57,253
I think it was a Friday.
855
00:47:57,288 --> 00:47:59,117
And no one could find him.
856
00:47:59,152 --> 00:48:01,948
So we basically waited
and waited
857
00:48:01,982 --> 00:48:03,915
and I think we had to cancel
the recording
858
00:48:03,950 --> 00:48:06,366
or we tried to do some
without him, I'm not sure.
859
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:09,921
And then the managers went off
trying to find him.
860
00:48:09,956 --> 00:48:14,098
And when they found Syd, which I
think was a Sunday or Monday,
861
00:48:14,132 --> 00:48:18,930
they told us, "Well, something's
happened to Syd."
862
00:48:18,965 --> 00:48:22,865
And something had happened
to him, total difference.
863
00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:24,522
Total difference.
864
00:48:24,556 --> 00:48:29,320
♪
865
00:48:29,354 --> 00:48:33,531
I went to the session
when they made "See Emily Play."
866
00:48:33,565 --> 00:48:36,672
Syd was a changed person.
867
00:48:36,706 --> 00:48:38,950
He didn't appear
to recognize me at first,
868
00:48:38,985 --> 00:48:41,746
sort of stared right through me.
869
00:48:41,780 --> 00:48:48,339
And had what Roger has very
aptly put as black holes
870
00:48:48,373 --> 00:48:50,686
in the sky for eyes.
871
00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:57,520
♪
872
00:48:57,555 --> 00:49:02,594
Tales of Syd's erratic
behavior were numerous.
873
00:49:02,629 --> 00:49:08,497
I was in the West End
and I ran into Syd's girlfriend
874
00:49:08,531 --> 00:49:12,190
in Cambridge Circus
and she seemed a bit distressed
875
00:49:12,225 --> 00:49:14,606
and she'd motioned
and there was Syd
876
00:49:14,641 --> 00:49:19,404
lying or sitting in the gutter
on those little side streets
877
00:49:19,439 --> 00:49:22,683
that goes down to Seven Dials.
878
00:49:22,718 --> 00:49:25,410
And she told me, she said,
"He's been taking acid
879
00:49:25,445 --> 00:49:28,241
every day for 7 days."
880
00:49:28,275 --> 00:49:31,589
And he looked just completely
out of it.
881
00:49:31,623 --> 00:49:35,903
♪
882
00:49:35,938 --> 00:49:37,491
It was hard to tell
when he was on it
883
00:49:37,526 --> 00:49:39,666
and when he wasn't
on it, actually.
884
00:49:41,599 --> 00:49:46,673
Lindsay and Syd and Nigel and I
all went to stay in a cottage
885
00:49:46,707 --> 00:49:53,404
in Wales and we all took
LSD and Syd already,
886
00:49:53,438 --> 00:49:56,476
we could hardly
communicate with him.
887
00:49:56,510 --> 00:49:57,925
He wasn't really there.
888
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:05,830
He was behaving very strangely
and spent one night
889
00:50:05,864 --> 00:50:08,074
balanced on a wine bottle,
890
00:50:08,108 --> 00:50:09,799
with his bare feet
on a wine bottle
891
00:50:09,834 --> 00:50:13,562
and his hands on a low beam.
892
00:50:13,596 --> 00:50:16,254
I think he was grinning,
probably, but just like that.
893
00:50:16,289 --> 00:50:20,051
Just spinning
backwards and forwards.
894
00:50:20,086 --> 00:50:25,056
And I think I was more concerned
about his girlfriend, Lindsay,
895
00:50:25,091 --> 00:50:29,026
because I think
she was very distressed.
896
00:50:29,060 --> 00:50:33,754
At that time, none of us knew
how to handle that.
897
00:50:33,789 --> 00:50:38,207
We were just trying to stay
sane ourselves, really.
898
00:50:38,242 --> 00:50:43,212
So I think at that time,
we were not equipped
899
00:50:43,247 --> 00:50:46,353
to be able to even
begin to help him.
900
00:50:46,388 --> 00:50:49,046
We said, "Oh, it's just
poetic genius,
901
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:56,087
it's just LSD, it's just
drug induced madness."
902
00:50:56,122 --> 00:50:58,227
We didn't know--
903
00:50:58,262 --> 00:51:00,954
Well, we had no experience
actually of mental illness.
904
00:51:00,988 --> 00:51:04,095
And I think he just slowly
905
00:51:04,130 --> 00:51:09,135
drifted into becoming
incomprehensible.
906
00:51:09,169 --> 00:51:13,208
And none of us could help,
none of us could help.
907
00:51:13,242 --> 00:51:17,108
We have all these terms now,
like bipolar and schizophrenia
908
00:51:17,143 --> 00:51:21,492
and it's quite likely that he
did suffer from one of those,
909
00:51:21,526 --> 00:51:24,909
which combined with large
quantities of LSD,
910
00:51:24,943 --> 00:51:26,083
sent him over the edge.
911
00:51:26,117 --> 00:51:35,989
♪
912
00:51:36,023 --> 00:51:40,338
October 1967: Pink Floyd
began a tour of America.
913
00:51:40,373 --> 00:51:43,962
During the first few days, Syd's
mental state soon threatened
914
00:51:43,997 --> 00:51:46,172
to undermine it.
915
00:51:46,206 --> 00:51:50,486
We did a tour in '68
of the States.
916
00:51:50,521 --> 00:51:51,901
I mean, just of the West Coast.
917
00:51:51,936 --> 00:51:57,769
I think we only did 3 gigs
or something and, you know,
918
00:51:57,804 --> 00:52:00,255
where it was quite clear
that he'd gone,
919
00:52:00,289 --> 00:52:04,949
he was no longer with us
in any real sense.
920
00:52:04,983 --> 00:52:07,158
We always said, "Well, is Syd
going to make it tonight?
921
00:52:07,193 --> 00:52:09,816
Is he going to get
on stage, even?"
922
00:52:09,850 --> 00:52:13,613
And then someone came in,
I don't know who,
923
00:52:13,647 --> 00:52:17,134
don't know if it was any member
of the band and said,
924
00:52:17,168 --> 00:52:18,859
"You've gotta come see
what Syd's doing."
925
00:52:18,894 --> 00:52:23,485
And he'd crushed up all these
mandrakes and mixed it up
926
00:52:23,519 --> 00:52:26,488
with Brylcreem and then
rubbed it in his hair.
927
00:52:26,522 --> 00:52:30,008
And then came on stage
and it all started melting.
928
00:52:30,043 --> 00:52:31,148
So bizarre.
929
00:52:31,182 --> 00:52:34,703
One gig he just detuned
his guitar on the stage.
930
00:52:34,737 --> 00:52:38,016
Another gig he just
played one note.
931
00:52:38,051 --> 00:52:39,742
They had to get a guy called
Davy O'List,
932
00:52:39,777 --> 00:52:41,779
who was in The Nice,
933
00:52:41,813 --> 00:52:46,266
who'd flown over
to kind of deputize,
934
00:52:46,301 --> 00:52:48,613
bolster Syd because
the guitar just wasn't there
935
00:52:48,648 --> 00:52:49,752
a lot of the time.
936
00:52:49,787 --> 00:52:53,756
♪
937
00:52:53,791 --> 00:52:57,208
Despite their ailing front man,
on their return to Britain,
938
00:52:57,243 --> 00:52:59,452
the band continued to perform.
939
00:52:59,486 --> 00:53:03,835
♪
940
00:53:03,870 --> 00:53:05,216
They were setting up
for a gig one day
941
00:53:05,251 --> 00:53:07,839
and it was like,
"Should we go get Syd?"
942
00:53:07,874 --> 00:53:10,221
And someone said,
"No, let's not bother."
943
00:53:10,256 --> 00:53:11,912
And they didn't get Syd,
and that's it,
944
00:53:11,947 --> 00:53:14,018
he was out of the band.
945
00:53:14,052 --> 00:53:17,021
When I look back on how
we treated Syd,
946
00:53:17,055 --> 00:53:19,265
I don't see a bunch
of very kind,
947
00:53:19,299 --> 00:53:21,336
nice people, doing
the very best they could.
948
00:53:21,370 --> 00:53:23,027
Everyone was sort of thinking,
"Well, how on Earth
949
00:53:23,061 --> 00:53:25,616
can we get this under control
so we can carry on?"
950
00:53:25,650 --> 00:53:27,618
It's hard now to say--
951
00:53:27,652 --> 00:53:30,414
Being wise after the event,
there's a lot of other routes
952
00:53:30,448 --> 00:53:34,245
that might have been taken.
953
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:38,249
On April 6th, 1968,
it was officially confirmed
954
00:53:38,284 --> 00:53:41,839
that Syd was no longer
a member of Pink Floyd.
955
00:53:41,873 --> 00:53:44,497
Roger Waters rang me
and said,
956
00:53:44,531 --> 00:53:46,878
"The Floyd have a gig
tonight in Brighton,
957
00:53:46,913 --> 00:53:49,295
but Syd's just not going
to make it.
958
00:53:49,329 --> 00:53:52,539
Would you ring David Gilmour
and see if he could pack up
959
00:53:52,574 --> 00:53:54,576
his guitar and join us?"
960
00:53:54,610 --> 00:53:56,819
And David joined the band.
961
00:53:56,854 --> 00:53:59,166
I guess he never looked back.
962
00:53:59,201 --> 00:54:01,583
♪
963
00:54:01,617 --> 00:54:03,274
In the beginning,
I had no clue what I was doing,
964
00:54:03,309 --> 00:54:05,207
it was probably dreadful
and I thought
965
00:54:05,242 --> 00:54:08,245
it wasn't a lot of fun,
I have to tell you.
966
00:54:09,901 --> 00:54:12,490
It was a huge relief
to have Dave in the band,
967
00:54:12,525 --> 00:54:14,492
didn't have the fear
of what's going to happen next,
968
00:54:14,527 --> 00:54:18,013
or whatever and we then started
trying to learn to write,
969
00:54:18,047 --> 00:54:20,257
I mean, Roger and me and Dave.
970
00:54:20,291 --> 00:54:24,088
And I'm sure that's when I
started doing my improvisation
971
00:54:24,122 --> 00:54:25,848
or whatever on the keyboards.
972
00:54:25,883 --> 00:54:29,680
The songs that came later
that Roger and Dave wrote
973
00:54:29,714 --> 00:54:33,822
are very different
from Syd's songs.
974
00:54:33,856 --> 00:54:35,893
They're not as dense,
they're not as witty,
975
00:54:35,927 --> 00:54:39,034
they're not as jaunty.
976
00:54:40,691 --> 00:54:46,006
♪
977
00:54:46,041 --> 00:54:50,321
After leaving the band in 1968,
Syd spent the remainder
978
00:54:50,356 --> 00:54:53,842
of the year in a fragile state.
979
00:54:53,876 --> 00:54:57,190
I was in Harrods shopping
and I saw Syd,
980
00:54:57,224 --> 00:54:59,365
I don't think he saw me.
981
00:54:59,399 --> 00:55:02,022
I saw him, he had his
brown paper bag,
982
00:55:02,057 --> 00:55:08,305
and was buying sweets 'cause I
think he just lived on sweets.
983
00:55:08,339 --> 00:55:10,203
That was the last time
I saw him.
984
00:55:12,723 --> 00:55:18,901
Syd's departure coincided
with them becoming successful.
985
00:55:18,936 --> 00:55:20,213
I'm speaking commercially.
986
00:55:20,247 --> 00:55:22,284
So it was a terrible dilemma.
987
00:55:22,319 --> 00:55:27,013
I mean, Roger felt almost
brotherly love for Syd.
988
00:55:27,047 --> 00:55:29,774
I mean, it was more than
even that.
989
00:55:29,809 --> 00:55:31,880
He felt responsible for Syd.
990
00:55:31,914 --> 00:55:33,433
They were great friends.
991
00:55:33,468 --> 00:55:35,608
They'd been together for God
knows how many years.
992
00:55:35,642 --> 00:55:40,267
It was a real tragedy and Roger
for years worried about this.
993
00:55:40,302 --> 00:55:42,891
And still worries about it.
994
00:55:42,925 --> 00:55:46,757
And when Syd died,
was still worrying about it.
995
00:55:46,791 --> 00:55:53,764
He died in 2006,
from pancreatic cancer.
996
00:55:53,798 --> 00:55:57,837
Commendably, they all made sure
he got his royalties,
997
00:55:57,871 --> 00:56:01,496
right up until, you know,
he died.
998
00:56:04,222 --> 00:56:09,952
It's a shame for people to
remember him as this sort of
999
00:56:09,987 --> 00:56:12,645
burnt-out shell.
1000
00:56:12,679 --> 00:56:16,683
He is one of the few real
musical geniuses
1001
00:56:16,718 --> 00:56:23,207
of this pop era, I think.
1002
00:56:23,241 --> 00:56:29,006
Although his actual output
is pathetically small,
1003
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,008
it is quite influential.
1004
00:56:31,042 --> 00:56:35,046
The specter of Syd haunted us
subsequently.
1005
00:56:35,081 --> 00:56:38,533
I mean, obviously,
we went back to it
1006
00:56:38,567 --> 00:56:42,744
with "Wish You Were Here"
in a major way.
1007
00:56:42,778 --> 00:56:52,788
♪
1008
00:57:30,067 --> 00:57:34,002
Pink Floyd cultivated
an impassive on stage demeanor,
1009
00:57:34,036 --> 00:57:37,281
calculated to keep their
audiences entirely focused
1010
00:57:37,315 --> 00:57:39,525
on the music and
state of the art
1011
00:57:39,559 --> 00:57:42,666
multimedia extravaganza.
1012
00:57:42,700 --> 00:57:46,497
♪
1013
00:57:46,532 --> 00:57:49,604
In 1973, after eight albums,
1014
00:57:49,638 --> 00:57:52,848
"Dark Side of the Moon"
hoisted Floyd onto a plane
1015
00:57:52,883 --> 00:57:57,094
of popularity few bands
experience.
1016
00:57:57,128 --> 00:58:00,649
The pivotal release became one
of the most celebrated albums
1017
00:58:00,684 --> 00:58:03,134
in the history
of recorded music,
1018
00:58:03,169 --> 00:58:08,588
remaining on the best seller
chart for a phenomenal 26 years.
1019
00:58:08,623 --> 00:58:12,558
♪
1020
00:58:12,592 --> 00:58:14,767
The next release,
"Wish You Were Here"
1021
00:58:14,801 --> 00:58:17,735
became one of the most
successful follow-up albums
1022
00:58:17,770 --> 00:58:19,806
of all time.
1023
00:58:19,841 --> 00:58:25,432
♪
1024
00:58:25,467 --> 00:58:28,435
The "Wish You Were Here" album
is probably
1025
00:58:28,470 --> 00:58:34,821
the best balanced album
in terms of the music
1026
00:58:34,856 --> 00:58:38,860
having the emotional strength
on its own.
1027
00:58:38,894 --> 00:58:42,795
To me, that works better than
"Dark Side of the Moon" does.
1028
00:58:42,829 --> 00:58:47,282
♪
1029
00:58:47,316 --> 00:58:48,628
Following "Wish You Were Here,"
1030
00:58:48,663 --> 00:58:51,907
the quartet's chemistry
rapidly disintegrated.
1031
00:58:51,942 --> 00:58:55,739
♪
1032
00:58:55,773 --> 00:58:58,880
When we were making that record,
in the aftermath of the success
1033
00:58:58,914 --> 00:59:06,404
of "Dark Side of the Moon,"
you know, in a way,
1034
00:59:06,439 --> 00:59:08,959
I sort of knew,
that really we were over
1035
00:59:08,993 --> 00:59:11,582
as far as the band of brothers
1036
00:59:11,617 --> 00:59:13,411
notion of a pop group
was concerned.
1037
00:59:13,446 --> 00:59:15,828
We just weren't anymore
and we were never going to be
1038
00:59:15,862 --> 00:59:16,932
that again.
1039
00:59:16,967 --> 00:59:20,108
♪
1040
00:59:20,142 --> 00:59:23,387
I think it was the last album
where we worked well together.
1041
00:59:23,421 --> 00:59:25,423
I know that when we started off,
1042
00:59:25,458 --> 00:59:27,598
we weren't putting
our heart into it.
1043
00:59:27,633 --> 00:59:30,014
The disagreements did start
at that point.
1044
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:35,537
Around that time,
I split up with my first wife
1045
00:59:35,572 --> 00:59:39,058
and I remember in
the canteen downstairs,
1046
00:59:39,092 --> 00:59:42,786
here at Abbey Road,
1047
00:59:42,820 --> 00:59:44,442
having a nervous breakdown.
1048
00:59:44,477 --> 00:59:46,444
I think that's the only way
I can describe it,
1049
00:59:46,479 --> 00:59:48,170
but it was very,
very short lived,
1050
00:59:48,205 --> 00:59:51,967
but it was like I was sitting
at the table downstairs,
1051
00:59:52,002 --> 00:59:59,285
having something to eat,
in a bad way
1052
00:59:59,319 --> 01:00:02,322
and suddenly
everything telescoped.
1053
01:00:02,357 --> 01:00:04,635
Everything went down
the other end of a telescope.
1054
01:00:04,670 --> 01:00:06,879
It all just went--
1055
01:00:06,913 --> 01:00:09,364
Everything, and I thought,
1056
01:00:09,398 --> 01:00:11,573
"Fuck me, I'm going mad.
1057
01:00:11,608 --> 01:00:14,024
This is what it must be like."
1058
01:00:14,058 --> 01:00:17,821
Suddenly, reality
has changed completely.
1059
01:00:17,855 --> 01:00:21,238
♪
1060
01:00:21,272 --> 01:00:25,414
1979 brought the release
of "The Wall."
1061
01:00:25,449 --> 01:00:28,763
Conceived by Roger Waters
as an ambitious double album,
1062
01:00:28,797 --> 01:00:32,698
a spectacular live show and a
groundbreaking feature film,
1063
01:00:32,732 --> 01:00:36,978
"The Wall" went on to achieve
iconic status.
1064
01:00:37,012 --> 01:00:41,292
Roger Waters came to me about
eight, ten years ago
1065
01:00:41,327 --> 01:00:45,849
and played me the raw tapes
of "The Wall"
1066
01:00:45,883 --> 01:00:48,437
and said that he would
be making a film of it
1067
01:00:48,472 --> 01:00:51,026
and a show of it,
all of which we did.
1068
01:00:51,061 --> 01:00:53,615
And the we started thinking
about what images
1069
01:00:53,650 --> 01:00:56,894
would go with the music and
what parts we would illustrate.
1070
01:00:56,929 --> 01:00:59,034
I just draw the master drawings,
which I pass
1071
01:00:59,069 --> 01:01:03,211
to the master animators
and they draw out
1072
01:01:03,245 --> 01:01:05,040
all the main movements.
1073
01:01:07,422 --> 01:01:08,872
"The Wall" was probably
1074
01:01:08,906 --> 01:01:11,978
their most spectacular
stage presentation.
1075
01:01:12,013 --> 01:01:15,706
It was all fostered weirdly
by Roger spitting on a fan
1076
01:01:15,741 --> 01:01:18,467
during a gig, and he decided
he'd like to do a gig
1077
01:01:18,502 --> 01:01:22,333
isolated from the crowd,
which led, eventually,
1078
01:01:22,368 --> 01:01:25,371
to the band being gradually
covered up by a massive wall
1079
01:01:25,405 --> 01:01:27,373
on stage,
which was then demolished.
1080
01:01:27,407 --> 01:01:29,755
They'd really taken
the stage show to limits
1081
01:01:29,789 --> 01:01:32,309
that even the Stones
had never got to at that point.
1082
01:01:32,343 --> 01:01:34,207
They really were
the most excessive,
1083
01:01:34,242 --> 01:01:36,382
huge band in the world.
1084
01:01:36,416 --> 01:01:43,907
♪
1085
01:01:43,941 --> 01:01:46,081
It was the biggest and best show
that was on the road
1086
01:01:46,116 --> 01:01:49,291
at the time,
and looking back at it now,
1087
01:01:49,326 --> 01:01:51,328
it was basically
bicycle technology,
1088
01:01:51,362 --> 01:01:53,951
but at the time,
it was cutting edge.
1089
01:01:53,986 --> 01:01:57,334
♪
1090
01:01:57,368 --> 01:02:01,787
It was a total touring entourage
of about 120-130 people.
1091
01:02:01,821 --> 01:02:04,548
It was pretty well organized
because it had to be
1092
01:02:04,582 --> 01:02:06,239
because it was such
a big machine.
1093
01:02:06,274 --> 01:02:08,897
You were a cog in a machine.
1094
01:02:11,589 --> 01:02:13,971
I saw them do "The Wall"
in Naples,
1095
01:02:14,006 --> 01:02:16,353
somewhere completely mad
like that.
1096
01:02:16,387 --> 01:02:20,115
Rock and roll in the '80s
became show.
1097
01:02:22,117 --> 01:02:25,465
You needed the lasers,
you needed the big projection
1098
01:02:25,500 --> 01:02:29,124
at the back,
you needed smoke going off,
1099
01:02:29,159 --> 01:02:32,645
you needed Mick Jagger
coming up out of the pit,
1100
01:02:32,679 --> 01:02:34,612
as if he's the messiah,
1101
01:02:34,647 --> 01:02:37,443
and then you needed Madonna
with pointed breasts,
1102
01:02:37,477 --> 01:02:41,102
I mean, the most pointed breasts
ever seen on a human being.
1103
01:02:41,136 --> 01:02:42,966
It's hype, it's ridiculous,
in other words,
1104
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:44,795
it's got nothing
to do with music anymore.
1105
01:02:44,830 --> 01:02:48,799
You know, if you're playing to a
stadium of 50, 60,000 people,
1106
01:02:48,834 --> 01:02:51,664
which they did frequently,
you're not making music anymore.
1107
01:02:51,698 --> 01:02:53,217
They can't hear themselves.
1108
01:02:53,252 --> 01:02:54,978
The audience can't
hear it properly.
1109
01:02:55,012 --> 01:02:57,359
To have this huge crowd going--
1110
01:02:57,394 --> 01:02:59,672
Like this and sort of
lighting a candle.
1111
01:02:59,706 --> 01:03:01,467
I mean, it's bollocks!
1112
01:03:01,501 --> 01:03:05,574
In stadiums, it's got nothing
to do with music anymore.
1113
01:03:05,609 --> 01:03:12,236
And now they were just
this behemoth of a band,
1114
01:03:12,271 --> 01:03:14,929
and it was going to implode
and there was something
1115
01:03:14,963 --> 01:03:17,000
of a cocaine problem
going on in the band
1116
01:03:17,034 --> 01:03:22,074
and it grabbed several members
and that never helps.
1117
01:03:22,108 --> 01:03:28,632
♪
1118
01:03:28,666 --> 01:03:30,323
During the recording
of "The Final Cut,"
1119
01:03:30,358 --> 01:03:32,291
Roger had actually fired Rick
from the band,
1120
01:03:32,325 --> 01:03:35,846
which is a very, very sad thing
to do to a gorgeous man
1121
01:03:35,881 --> 01:03:37,365
and it didn't make
any difference.
1122
01:03:37,399 --> 01:03:39,401
It isn't as if there wasn't
enough money to go around,
1123
01:03:39,436 --> 01:03:42,301
let him stay.
1124
01:03:42,335 --> 01:03:43,750
At one point,
he'd been relegated
1125
01:03:43,785 --> 01:03:45,476
to being a session man,
he'd left the band
1126
01:03:45,511 --> 01:03:47,271
and then he came back,
just paid as much
1127
01:03:47,306 --> 01:03:50,619
as the session bass players.
1128
01:03:50,654 --> 01:03:54,969
I do think for him to be hired
by the band he helped form
1129
01:03:55,003 --> 01:03:56,384
and paid as a session guy,
1130
01:03:56,418 --> 01:03:59,352
I think that's
fairly disgusting.
1131
01:03:59,387 --> 01:04:03,874
That underlying angst in Roger
1132
01:04:03,909 --> 01:04:06,739
has caused him
to treat some people
1133
01:04:06,773 --> 01:04:08,603
rather wrongly, I feel,
and I think Rick
1134
01:04:08,637 --> 01:04:12,814
being the gorgeous, lovely,
peaceful gentleman that he is,
1135
01:04:12,849 --> 01:04:17,232
that he was, meant that he did
get the brunt of it.
1136
01:04:17,267 --> 01:04:22,306
They couldn't figure out what
Rick contributed.
1137
01:04:22,341 --> 01:04:25,758
I remember several conversations
with various other members
1138
01:04:25,792 --> 01:04:27,553
of the band who
should be nameless,
1139
01:04:27,587 --> 01:04:30,763
is that they liked him,
but they couldn't figure out
1140
01:04:30,797 --> 01:04:32,040
what he contributed.
1141
01:04:32,075 --> 01:04:35,630
And I think that
was totally unfair.
1142
01:04:35,664 --> 01:04:39,082
But of course once that idea,
that seed of an idea,
1143
01:04:39,116 --> 01:04:43,914
gets planted, then you're almost
kind of thinking,
1144
01:04:43,949 --> 01:04:47,366
"I wonder what he contributes,"
if you see what I mean.
1145
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:57,410
♪
1146
01:05:21,434 --> 01:05:25,749
By the mid '80s,
the group began to unravel.
1147
01:05:25,783 --> 01:05:27,613
Relationships got really bad
between Roger
1148
01:05:27,647 --> 01:05:29,201
and the rest of the band.
1149
01:05:29,235 --> 01:05:31,755
He was now traveling separately,
and the last album
1150
01:05:31,789 --> 01:05:33,791
was entirely dictated by him.
1151
01:05:33,826 --> 01:05:36,587
It was called "The Final Cut"
and every track was written
1152
01:05:36,622 --> 01:05:37,830
by Roger.
1153
01:05:37,864 --> 01:05:40,557
He left--by 1995 he was gone.
1154
01:05:40,591 --> 01:05:44,009
It happens, they grow up
together, it's a long time.
1155
01:05:44,043 --> 01:05:48,392
And to be expected to be happy
living in each other's pockets
1156
01:05:48,427 --> 01:05:51,188
for most of your lives,
it doesn't happen.
1157
01:05:51,223 --> 01:05:52,949
It can't happen like that.
1158
01:05:52,983 --> 01:06:00,957
♪
1159
01:06:00,991 --> 01:06:05,133
I don't have any power in any
of that decision making process
1160
01:06:05,168 --> 01:06:08,757
because the rights
in all of the old stuff
1161
01:06:08,792 --> 01:06:11,450
reside with a company called
Pink Floyd Music Limited
1162
01:06:11,484 --> 01:06:13,383
and there are four shareholders.
1163
01:06:13,417 --> 01:06:16,248
Rick Wright, Nick Mason,
Dave Gilmour, and me
1164
01:06:16,282 --> 01:06:19,458
and we all have one vote
so I can always be outvoted,
1165
01:06:19,492 --> 01:06:22,116
and I always am
and so I don't really bother
1166
01:06:22,150 --> 01:06:23,738
to have much to do with it
'cause it's a waste
1167
01:06:23,772 --> 01:06:25,464
of my energy.
1168
01:06:25,498 --> 01:06:32,747
♪
1169
01:06:32,781 --> 01:06:34,749
Following Roger Water's
departure,
1170
01:06:34,783 --> 01:06:37,338
the band members went
their separate ways,
1171
01:06:37,372 --> 01:06:41,480
until 1987, when Gilmour
and Mason forged ahead
1172
01:06:41,514 --> 01:06:44,172
with the Pink Floyd name,
releasing albums
1173
01:06:44,207 --> 01:06:46,243
and staging tours.
1174
01:06:46,278 --> 01:06:49,281
The very first thing they did
was to reinstate Rick Wright
1175
01:06:49,315 --> 01:06:51,352
as a full member of the band.
1176
01:06:51,386 --> 01:06:57,496
♪
1177
01:06:57,530 --> 01:06:59,498
They don't trash hotel rooms,
and they don't hide
1178
01:06:59,532 --> 01:07:01,327
behind security guards.
1179
01:07:01,362 --> 01:07:02,846
Could you imagine
the Rolling Stones
1180
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:05,676
getting this close
to the music press Rottweilers?
1181
01:07:05,711 --> 01:07:09,059
Were you particularly proud
of last year's shows?
1182
01:07:09,094 --> 01:07:11,027
Yeah, yeah, very much so.
1183
01:07:11,061 --> 01:07:12,718
For what reason?
1184
01:07:12,752 --> 01:07:15,928
They're very, very good shows,
we're proud of the album,
1185
01:07:15,962 --> 01:07:20,967
what we did before,
and I think we put together--
1186
01:07:21,002 --> 01:07:23,142
I think this show is probably
one of the best we've ever done.
1187
01:07:23,177 --> 01:07:26,318
I couldn't think of any other
band who would start out playing
1188
01:07:26,352 --> 01:07:28,941
to drug crazed hippies
and end up playing
1189
01:07:28,975 --> 01:07:32,531
to conservative cabinet
ministers and possibly future--
1190
01:07:32,565 --> 01:07:34,084
I mean, it's not a criticism,
I'm just wondering,
1191
01:07:34,119 --> 01:07:35,465
did you ever expect
yourself to--
1192
01:07:35,499 --> 01:07:37,363
There are some areas in which
we have gone backwards,
1193
01:07:37,398 --> 01:07:38,916
it has to be said.
1194
01:07:38,951 --> 01:07:42,817
We all still like to be
successful and famous,
1195
01:07:42,851 --> 01:07:46,752
all things that apply to us
when we were fighting our way up
1196
01:07:46,786 --> 01:07:49,272
sort of 20-something years ago
still apply.
1197
01:07:52,758 --> 01:07:55,209
You're on a world tour,
does playing in London
1198
01:07:55,243 --> 01:07:57,556
have any added
significance for you?
1199
01:07:57,590 --> 01:07:59,213
Oh, it's the hassle in London.
1200
01:07:59,247 --> 01:08:01,284
Thousands of people wanting
tickets, all that sort of stuff.
1201
01:08:01,318 --> 01:08:04,425
It's going to be great,
it's the first--
1202
01:08:04,459 --> 01:08:07,117
Actually although people say
it's a huge bar,
1203
01:08:07,152 --> 01:08:09,188
it is actually the smallest
place we've played
1204
01:08:09,223 --> 01:08:11,639
and it's the last period
of our tour,
1205
01:08:11,673 --> 01:08:13,813
so we're finished
when we finish here.
1206
01:08:13,848 --> 01:08:15,815
Why do you keep doing it?
1207
01:08:15,850 --> 01:08:16,953
It's what I do.
1208
01:08:16,988 --> 01:08:18,404
Why do you keep
doing what you do?
1209
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:23,099
♪
1210
01:08:25,342 --> 01:08:28,794
Go back to your seats
now, please.
1211
01:08:28,827 --> 01:08:32,487
Floyd are on a one hundred
million pound world tour.
1212
01:08:32,522 --> 01:08:35,318
But a 1,200-seater stand
collapsed minutes before
1213
01:08:35,352 --> 01:08:36,835
they went on stage.
1214
01:08:36,871 --> 01:08:39,529
Earls Court was evacuated,
the Pink Floyd concert
1215
01:08:39,563 --> 01:08:41,082
was cancelled.
1216
01:08:41,117 --> 01:08:43,153
Now the Health and Safety
Executive are examining
1217
01:08:43,188 --> 01:08:45,983
the wreckage to find out
what went wrong.
1218
01:08:47,813 --> 01:08:54,233
♪
1219
01:08:54,268 --> 01:08:57,823
Things did go wrong
quite often.
1220
01:08:57,857 --> 01:09:01,447
In Venice, our show
was on a barge.
1221
01:09:01,482 --> 01:09:04,519
This barge was 360 feet long
1222
01:09:04,554 --> 01:09:07,522
and I think it was
120 foot wide
1223
01:09:07,557 --> 01:09:09,282
and 12 foot deep.
1224
01:09:09,317 --> 01:09:11,871
Think of a just
a big, steel tank.
1225
01:09:11,906 --> 01:09:14,390
We built the entire show
in the docks.
1226
01:09:14,425 --> 01:09:17,532
So the whole stage
was on this barge,
1227
01:09:17,567 --> 01:09:20,880
it's the big festival outdoors,
stadium stage.
1228
01:09:20,915 --> 01:09:23,607
We sailed in being towed
by two tugs,
1229
01:09:23,642 --> 01:09:25,816
really early in the morning,
through the mist
1230
01:09:25,851 --> 01:09:28,024
with Jolly Rogers
flying off the PA.
1231
01:09:28,059 --> 01:09:31,028
We were the third tallest
structure in Venice.
1232
01:09:31,063 --> 01:09:37,449
♪
1233
01:09:37,483 --> 01:09:39,002
Dave was standing
in downstage center
1234
01:09:39,036 --> 01:09:41,349
looking at all this madness
going on around him
1235
01:09:41,384 --> 01:09:43,144
and I went over and said,
"Thanks, Dave,
1236
01:09:43,179 --> 01:09:45,767
this is wicked, this is,"
he said "It is the most
1237
01:09:45,801 --> 01:09:48,322
ridiculous thing I've ever
done in my life, Bob.
1238
01:09:48,356 --> 01:09:51,220
I can't believe
we're doing this."
1239
01:09:51,255 --> 01:09:53,879
♪
1240
01:09:53,913 --> 01:09:56,226
It was meant to be the most
spectacular concert
1241
01:09:56,261 --> 01:09:57,814
in the history of rock.
1242
01:09:57,848 --> 01:10:00,437
Two hundred thousand people
packed into St. Mark's Square
1243
01:10:00,472 --> 01:10:03,406
to hear Pink Floyd, 100 million
watched on television
1244
01:10:03,440 --> 01:10:05,028
around the world.
1245
01:10:05,062 --> 01:10:07,272
But the following morning,
there was another spectacle,
1246
01:10:07,306 --> 01:10:10,344
St. Mark's Square under a sea
of filth and litter.
1247
01:10:10,378 --> 01:10:12,760
The concert had taken place
with few facilities laid on
1248
01:10:12,794 --> 01:10:15,969
for the fans and virtually
no public toilets.
1249
01:10:16,004 --> 01:10:18,248
Some fans had clambered onto
whatever vantage points
1250
01:10:18,282 --> 01:10:21,077
they could,
with inevitable results.
1251
01:10:21,112 --> 01:10:23,115
At least one historic monument
was also said
1252
01:10:23,148 --> 01:10:25,048
to have been damaged.
1253
01:10:25,082 --> 01:10:27,809
Venetians were furious and now
to defuse the row,
1254
01:10:27,844 --> 01:10:29,327
the mayor says he may resign,
1255
01:10:29,362 --> 01:10:32,331
together with the
entire town council.
1256
01:10:32,366 --> 01:10:34,885
Venice is still recovering
from last week's concert,
1257
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,267
a team of architects had
predicted that the decibel level
1258
01:10:37,302 --> 01:10:39,821
of Pink Floyd's music could
cause permanent damage
1259
01:10:39,856 --> 01:10:41,166
to buildings.
1260
01:10:41,202 --> 01:10:42,824
In that case,
Venice may be regretting
1261
01:10:42,859 --> 01:10:46,552
the day Pink Floyd came to town
for a very long time yet.
1262
01:10:46,587 --> 01:10:53,318
♪
1263
01:10:53,352 --> 01:10:56,286
In 1996, Pink Floyd
were inducted
1264
01:10:56,321 --> 01:10:59,669
into the US Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame,
1265
01:10:59,702 --> 01:11:04,190
followed by the same honor
in the UK in 2005.
1266
01:11:04,225 --> 01:11:08,402
It's nice to be loved
and for one's contribution
1267
01:11:08,436 --> 01:11:10,335
to be recognized in some way
1268
01:11:10,369 --> 01:11:15,823
and I suppose I do agree
that I think that
1269
01:11:15,857 --> 01:11:18,170
we have had an influence.
1270
01:11:18,204 --> 01:11:21,138
I think we're really pleased.
1271
01:11:21,173 --> 01:11:24,245
It is an honor and it's very
nice to be recognized
1272
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:27,559
rather than having to watch
other people being inducted.
1273
01:11:27,593 --> 01:11:30,458
...Floyd into the Rock and Roll
Hall of Fame.
1274
01:11:30,493 --> 01:11:33,668
I think it probably means
that this is official,
1275
01:11:33,702 --> 01:11:37,741
that we never, ever have to be
a support act ever again.
1276
01:11:37,776 --> 01:11:38,777
Thank you!
1277
01:11:38,811 --> 01:11:41,297
[applause]
1278
01:11:41,331 --> 01:11:44,921
♪
1279
01:11:44,955 --> 01:11:51,272
On July 2nd, 2005, for the first
time in almost 25 years,
1280
01:11:51,307 --> 01:11:55,311
Pink Floyd reformed
for their final performance.
1281
01:11:57,657 --> 01:11:59,452
If the Pink Floyd can agree
on what to play,
1282
01:11:59,487 --> 01:12:01,282
surely the G8 summit
can agree on what
1283
01:12:01,317 --> 01:12:03,767
to do about sorting out Africa.
1284
01:12:05,666 --> 01:12:07,875
I was intrigued to see it.
1285
01:12:07,909 --> 01:12:12,017
Roger seemed
really pleased to be back.
1286
01:12:12,050 --> 01:12:15,538
And Dave seemed less so.
1287
01:12:15,572 --> 01:12:17,022
Now the body language
was a bit odd.
1288
01:12:17,056 --> 01:12:19,576
There was obviously
animosity there.
1289
01:12:19,611 --> 01:12:23,546
If there was tensions,
it was very cleverly disguised.
1290
01:12:23,580 --> 01:12:26,202
If I'm honest, which I am,
it was more about
1291
01:12:26,237 --> 01:12:29,379
being with Nick and Rick and
Dave on stage again, I think.
1292
01:12:29,414 --> 01:12:32,313
There was an enormous joy
in that.
1293
01:12:32,348 --> 01:12:34,522
From the moment we walked
into rehearsals,
1294
01:12:34,557 --> 01:12:37,111
which we did on a sort of
Tuesday afternoon
1295
01:12:37,145 --> 01:12:39,182
before the thing
had started playing,
1296
01:12:39,216 --> 01:12:41,148
it was obvious it was going
to be so easy
1297
01:12:41,184 --> 01:12:45,395
because there's nothing complex
about any of the music.
1298
01:12:45,430 --> 01:12:47,915
I looked around at one point
and there were people in tears.
1299
01:12:47,949 --> 01:12:50,469
It's something that no one
thought they'd see again.
1300
01:12:52,333 --> 01:12:55,750
It brought a tear to my eye to
see them all up there together,
1301
01:12:55,785 --> 01:12:57,234
delightful.
1302
01:12:57,269 --> 01:13:03,550
♪
1303
01:13:03,585 --> 01:13:06,347
The problem with Live 8
was you weren't quite sure
1304
01:13:06,382 --> 01:13:07,416
why you were there.
1305
01:13:07,452 --> 01:13:11,007
On that occasion, you felt
1306
01:13:11,041 --> 01:13:13,492
you were there because
you ought to be there
1307
01:13:13,527 --> 01:13:16,150
rather than, "Gosh, isn't it
good to see them?"
1308
01:13:16,184 --> 01:13:19,429
A lot of bands have a lot
of acrimony,
1309
01:13:19,464 --> 01:13:21,017
a lot of splits and so on.
1310
01:13:21,050 --> 01:13:23,191
One of the reasons I was so
happy to be on stage again
1311
01:13:23,226 --> 01:13:26,471
was to say, "Hey, whatever,
we disagree, so what?"
1312
01:13:26,505 --> 01:13:27,817
They all stood on the stage
with their arms
1313
01:13:27,851 --> 01:13:29,888
around each other,
thank God that happened.
1314
01:13:29,922 --> 01:13:31,786
They had buried the hatchet
and I'm really glad it happened
1315
01:13:31,821 --> 01:13:36,066
because Rick Wright died,
not that long afterwards.
1316
01:13:36,101 --> 01:13:57,812
♪
1317
01:13:57,847 --> 01:14:01,782
Everyone was very distressed
that he seemed just gone
1318
01:14:01,816 --> 01:14:04,129
for no particularly good reason.
1319
01:14:06,752 --> 01:14:09,065
I was very, very shocked
to hear the news.
1320
01:14:09,099 --> 01:14:13,483
And I said, said a few things
in my mind.
1321
01:14:13,518 --> 01:14:15,898
Thank you, Rick, thank you for
everything you've done for us
1322
01:14:15,934 --> 01:14:17,452
and I'm so pleased to
have met you
1323
01:14:17,487 --> 01:14:19,420
and so pleased I worked
with you,
1324
01:14:19,455 --> 01:14:21,629
you were such a lovely,
lovely man
1325
01:14:21,664 --> 01:14:25,495
and very, very dearly,
very sorely missed.
1326
01:14:25,530 --> 01:14:27,393
He was like the life blood
of Pink Floyd.
1327
01:14:27,428 --> 01:14:29,016
He was very underrated.
1328
01:14:29,050 --> 01:14:31,915
He was the unseen--if you're
talking about geniuses,
1329
01:14:31,950 --> 01:14:35,471
I think you could say
he inherited that mantle.
1330
01:14:36,955 --> 01:14:39,853
I was invited to Q
to present Pink Floyd
1331
01:14:39,889 --> 01:14:43,651
with the Living Legends
Award for 2009.
1332
01:14:43,686 --> 01:14:46,999
It was three weeks after
Rick Wright passed away
1333
01:14:47,034 --> 01:14:50,209
and David got the whole
of the Grosvenor Hotel
1334
01:14:50,244 --> 01:14:52,522
to stand up in unison
1335
01:14:52,557 --> 01:14:54,800
and raise a glass
to Rick's memory
1336
01:14:54,835 --> 01:14:59,666
and it's not often I see people
with tears in their eyes
1337
01:14:59,702 --> 01:15:01,980
coming up to me, telling me that
was just one of the most
1338
01:15:02,014 --> 01:15:04,465
amazing things they've
ever seen, it was amazing.
1339
01:15:04,500 --> 01:15:08,262
♪
1340
01:15:08,296 --> 01:15:11,437
Roger just didn't want to know,
just didn't want to know.
1341
01:15:11,472 --> 01:15:13,543
Didn't believe it,
didn't want to know.
1342
01:15:13,577 --> 01:15:16,373
That was misinterpreted
as not caring.
1343
01:15:16,407 --> 01:15:18,548
But I think the extent
to which he let it be known
1344
01:15:18,583 --> 01:15:21,793
that he didn't want to know
was the extent paradoxically
1345
01:15:21,827 --> 01:15:23,553
that he really desperately cared
1346
01:15:23,588 --> 01:15:25,590
and was very,
very upset about it.
1347
01:15:25,624 --> 01:15:29,041
The same with Syd,
go right back to Syd Barrett.
1348
01:15:29,076 --> 01:15:31,147
Exactly the same situation.
1349
01:15:31,181 --> 01:15:38,879
♪
1350
01:15:38,913 --> 01:15:41,985
Roger Waters and David Gilmour
have continued to pursue
1351
01:15:42,020 --> 01:15:46,714
solo careers, occasionally
joined by Nick Mason.
1352
01:15:46,749 --> 01:15:49,027
There's almost like a primal
therapy thing with Roger,
1353
01:15:49,061 --> 01:15:53,583
to explore his
innermost psyche.
1354
01:15:53,618 --> 01:15:56,137
Which is a bit self indulgent,
but at the same time,
1355
01:15:56,172 --> 01:15:58,070
there are people who will
be able to relate to it
1356
01:15:58,105 --> 01:16:00,003
and he is speaking
for a generation
1357
01:16:00,038 --> 01:16:01,108
of people like him.
1358
01:16:01,142 --> 01:16:02,454
I take my hat off to him
for that,
1359
01:16:02,487 --> 01:16:04,698
because that takes some doing.
1360
01:16:06,665 --> 01:16:10,013
Dave Gilmour is seen
as the face of Floyd now,
1361
01:16:10,048 --> 01:16:15,639
yet he's made solo albums that
have done, done pretty well.
1362
01:16:17,849 --> 01:16:21,646
He gave away a house
in West London to a charity,
1363
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:25,028
and a part of that is I think
compensating for the fact that,
1364
01:16:25,063 --> 01:16:28,066
"I didn't deserve all this
money that I'm earning now."
1365
01:16:28,100 --> 01:16:30,655
He's also not afraid for a bit
of experimentation
1366
01:16:30,689 --> 01:16:32,311
because he's just done
a new album
1367
01:16:32,346 --> 01:16:35,867
with Dr. Alex Paterson
of The Orb.
1368
01:16:35,901 --> 01:16:38,490
Four decades since
their first album,
1369
01:16:38,523 --> 01:16:41,251
Pink Floyd continue
to inspire rock fans
1370
01:16:41,286 --> 01:16:43,012
around the world.
1371
01:16:43,046 --> 01:16:48,050
♪
1372
01:16:48,085 --> 01:16:53,125
I've been in taxis in obscure
corners of the third world
1373
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:56,232
and you know, the glove
compartment opens
1374
01:16:56,266 --> 01:16:58,786
and there's two cassettes
in there
1375
01:16:58,821 --> 01:17:00,443
and one of them is
"Dark Side of the Moon"
1376
01:17:00,477 --> 01:17:02,928
and the other one
is Madonna, you know?
1377
01:17:02,963 --> 01:17:07,795
And if you told me that
in 1967,
1378
01:17:07,830 --> 01:17:11,799
that 25 years later,
I'd be somewhere in Indonesia
1379
01:17:11,834 --> 01:17:16,114
or whatever and see those
cassettes in somebody's car,
1380
01:17:16,148 --> 01:17:18,081
I would have thought
you were nuts,
1381
01:17:18,116 --> 01:17:20,566
but it's fantastic
that it's true.
1382
01:17:20,601 --> 01:17:23,259
Everybody knows of Pink Floyd,
you say something to Grandma,
1383
01:17:23,293 --> 01:17:24,880
and Grandma will
heard of Pink Floyd.
1384
01:17:24,916 --> 01:17:26,710
It's kind of bizarre.
1385
01:17:26,745 --> 01:17:29,368
It's terrific, I mean, it's
so great when people come up
1386
01:17:29,403 --> 01:17:32,958
and say,
they'd like an autograph
1387
01:17:32,993 --> 01:17:34,339
and it's not for their Granny,
1388
01:17:34,373 --> 01:17:35,927
it's actually
for their children.
1389
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,343
Pink Floyd music will continue
to inspire us
1390
01:17:38,377 --> 01:17:41,484
for centuries to come.
1391
01:17:41,518 --> 01:17:44,832
They captured so much
of the spirit of the times.
1392
01:17:44,867 --> 01:17:49,803
Their music is timeless,
deep, and wonderful.
1393
01:17:53,358 --> 01:18:03,368
♪
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