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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,040 Friel is the Irish playwright 3 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:07,319 that everybody outside Ireland knows. 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,239 He is very much established as the father of Irish theatre. 5 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 6 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:13,760 He treated success and failure alike. 7 00:00:13,879 --> 00:00:16,680 He never revelled in success. 8 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:19,800 Brian is one of the great storytellers. 9 00:00:19,919 --> 00:00:23,760 What you don't forget is what it was like to be talking to him. 10 00:00:23,879 --> 00:00:26,440 And sitting at a table with him. 11 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:28,800 He was lovely. Grumpy. 12 00:00:28,919 --> 00:00:31,559 Like every older Irish man I know. Grumpy and lovely. 13 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,199 He was a showman but he was very, very shy as well. 14 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,239 But a few jokes and away he went, y'know? 15 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,680 (HE LAUGHS) 16 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,319 Packed houses every night. Packed. Wherever we went. 17 00:00:45,639 --> 00:00:49,400 Brian completely reinvented 18 00:00:49,519 --> 00:00:51,519 what theatre could be. 19 00:00:51,639 --> 00:00:53,639 (SHE SCREAMS) 20 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:56,319 Really he was an experimenter all his life. 21 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,000 Brian was not just a playwright of his time. 22 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,120 But a playwright of his culture. 23 00:01:03,239 --> 00:01:05,080 REPORTER: "Meryl Streep was the star 24 00:01:05,199 --> 00:01:07,879 of Brian Friel's Dancing at Lughnasa, set in Donegal." 25 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,000 He said, 'We must speak to ourselves 26 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,480 and if others wish to overhear us, they're welcome.' 27 00:01:40,599 --> 00:01:44,599 I'm at Brian's study. That's Ralph Fiennes with him. 28 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,319 That's Meryl Streep. 29 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,440 That's Tom Stoppard. 30 00:01:49,559 --> 00:01:52,879 Now at this stage Brian was on his last months. 31 00:01:54,919 --> 00:01:58,919 (GENTLE MUSIC) 32 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,080 I've everything rearranged. Nothing was there 33 00:02:02,199 --> 00:02:04,319 that Brian would have had there. He wouldn't have been caught dead. 34 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,480 That's the Tony Award thing. 35 00:02:07,599 --> 00:02:09,879 Well he wouldn't have had them up. Not at all. 36 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Not at all, not at all. No. 37 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,319 I don't remember what he had on the wall actually. 38 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,360 But I've everything that I want to see on the walls. 39 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,519 Yes. Aye. That mattered to him. 40 00:02:24,319 --> 00:02:26,879 His funeral is there in the middle of it all as well. (LAUGHS) 41 00:02:27,959 --> 00:02:29,959 It's such a lovely photograph. 42 00:02:31,199 --> 00:02:33,199 It was a lovely sunny day. 43 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:39,440 (GENTLE MUSIC) 44 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,279 FRIEL RECORDING: "There are of course, what are called the facts. 45 00:02:50,199 --> 00:02:53,639 And since some people value the tidiness they seem to afford, 46 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,760 let's have the facts first and be done with them. 47 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:02,879 I was born in Omagh in County Tyrone in 1929. 48 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,319 My father was a principal of a three teacher school outside the town. 49 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,519 He taught me. 50 00:03:09,599 --> 00:03:13,279 In 1939, when I was 10, we moved to Derry. 51 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,680 I was at St Columb's College for five years. 52 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,720 St Patrick's College, Maynooth for two and a half years. 53 00:03:19,839 --> 00:03:23,199 And St Joseph's training College for one year. 54 00:03:23,319 --> 00:03:25,519 From 1950 until 1960 55 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,519 I taught in various schools in and around Derry. 56 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:32,919 And since that time I have been writing full time." 57 00:03:35,239 --> 00:03:38,319 Brian's family had taken a house just across the road. 58 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:41,239 I used to play the piano so I would be there, 59 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,680 playing an accompaniment for anybody. 60 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,120 People enjoyed it because there used to be a regular... 61 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:50,440 ...crowd that would come and they'd all do songs. 62 00:03:50,559 --> 00:03:53,760 I don't ever remember Brian singing, funny but, cos he'd a lovely voice. 63 00:03:54,639 --> 00:03:57,400 It was Tenor and his voice was trained. 64 00:03:57,519 --> 00:04:00,120 And that's where I met him first. 65 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,720 Oh, he was the life and soul of dances. 66 00:04:03,839 --> 00:04:05,919 And he used to do the MC and he'd sing. 67 00:04:07,599 --> 00:04:09,639 And he's play the mouth organ and he played the guitar. 68 00:04:10,959 --> 00:04:13,319 He was a man about town. (LAUGHS) 69 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,559 V/O: Newly married and teaching in Derry, 70 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:21,760 Brian had begun to write newspaper articles, 71 00:04:21,879 --> 00:04:24,440 short fiction and essays for radio. 72 00:04:24,559 --> 00:04:26,519 Experimenting with different forms 73 00:04:26,639 --> 00:04:28,760 as he tried to find his voice. 74 00:04:29,319 --> 00:04:31,319 Brian was a short story writer 75 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,519 almost before he was a playwright. 76 00:04:33,639 --> 00:04:37,040 He had this contract with the New Yorker magazine. 77 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,720 And that was a huge deal to get that contract because, 78 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,879 you know at that stage in the late 50's/early 60's 79 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,360 he and Anne are living in Derry. 80 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,519 He's teaching and he's gonna give up teaching to be a full time writer. 81 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,160 And the thing about the stories as well 82 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,639 is that they weren't written and then forgotten. 83 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,559 I mean the work, the plays actually draw quite significantly 84 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:00,879 on the stories. 85 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,279 For example, this one, in November 1961 86 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:07,839 has the story 'The Foundry House' in it. 87 00:05:07,959 --> 00:05:10,839 And 'The Foundry House' of course became 'Aristocrats'. 88 00:05:10,959 --> 00:05:14,760 But nothing was wasted. It was all there 89 00:05:14,879 --> 00:05:18,080 to be used, to be brought back to life. 90 00:05:18,199 --> 00:05:21,680 To be transformed when he gave himself over full time 91 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,319 to the theatre. 92 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,800 FRIEL RECORDING: "I found myself at 30 years of age 93 00:05:30,919 --> 00:05:33,160 embarked on a theatrical career 94 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,199 and almost totally ignorant of the mechanics of play writing 95 00:05:37,319 --> 00:05:41,279 and play production apart from a modest intuitive knowledge. 96 00:05:42,319 --> 00:05:45,199 Just like a painter who has never studied anatomy 97 00:05:45,319 --> 00:05:48,238 or a composer with no training in harmony. 98 00:05:49,559 --> 00:05:51,720 So I packed my bags 99 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,120 and with my wife and two children 100 00:05:54,238 --> 00:05:56,480 went to Minneapolis in Minnesota 101 00:05:56,599 --> 00:05:59,040 where a new theatre was being created by Tyrone Guthrie. 102 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,160 And there I lived for six months." 103 00:06:03,519 --> 00:06:06,000 That's me. That's my daughter Mary 104 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,360 who's got a teddy bear of sorts and that's my daughter Paddy. 105 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:13,559 It's the first night of one of the plays in Minneapolis. 106 00:06:14,959 --> 00:06:17,160 We had no income. 107 00:06:18,238 --> 00:06:21,319 All our... All our finances went into this trip. 108 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:25,800 But we were foolish probably and young. 109 00:06:26,599 --> 00:06:30,160 Tyrone Guthrie was probably the most important theatre director 110 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,120 in the world, the English speaking world. 111 00:06:33,238 --> 00:06:35,879 He knew Brian's work, the short stories 112 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,000 that Brian had written in the New Yorker. 113 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:42,400 And Guthrie invited him to come to Minnesota in Minneapolis 114 00:06:42,519 --> 00:06:45,120 as an intern, as an observer. 115 00:06:45,238 --> 00:06:47,199 Someone who would just sit around 116 00:06:47,319 --> 00:06:49,160 and watch how plays were put together. 117 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,360 Guthrie could work magic. 118 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:54,839 I think Brian just thought it was amazing 119 00:06:54,959 --> 00:06:57,800 that the audience were enthralled by what they were seeing. 120 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,559 He came away from that and attempted to write plays that... 121 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,480 ...nobody else had ever done before. 122 00:07:06,599 --> 00:07:08,919 He would experiment and he tried in every play almost... 123 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,199 ...to do something different. 124 00:07:12,559 --> 00:07:14,599 FRIEL RECORDING: Those months in America 125 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,800 gave me a sense of liberation. 126 00:07:16,919 --> 00:07:19,400 Remember, this was my first parole 127 00:07:19,519 --> 00:07:22,040 from inbred, claustrophobic Ireland. 128 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,160 And that sense of liberation conferred on me 129 00:07:25,279 --> 00:07:27,559 a valuable self confidence. 130 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,120 And a necessary perspective. 131 00:07:30,239 --> 00:07:33,199 So that the first play I wrote immediately after I came home, 132 00:07:33,319 --> 00:07:35,680 and that was 'Philadelphia, Here I Come!', 133 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,440 was a lot more assured 134 00:07:38,559 --> 00:07:40,559 than anything I had attempted before. 135 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,480 (LIVELY MUSIC) 136 00:07:54,199 --> 00:07:57,720 Think back to that opening night of 'Philadelphia, Here I Come!' 137 00:07:57,839 --> 00:08:00,800 in Dublin in 1964. 138 00:08:00,919 --> 00:08:03,959 I mean when the lights go up on the stage, 139 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,279 it's another Irish rural kitchen. 140 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,959 Traditional fare, y'know? Here we go again. 141 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,680 And then you have Gar Public and Gar Private. 142 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,839 And Irish theatre has changed. 143 00:08:14,959 --> 00:08:17,639 Shall we have a little read of it? 144 00:08:19,599 --> 00:08:22,040 Shall we try you being Private for a minute, Charlie? 145 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,319 Okey-doke. And you Public? Yeah. 146 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,760 Here was a play about a young man 147 00:08:28,879 --> 00:08:31,919 who was about to leave Ireland 148 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,160 and all the reasons that he was about to leave Ireland 149 00:08:34,279 --> 00:08:37,480 were encapsulated in that one night 150 00:08:37,599 --> 00:08:39,679 the night before he left. 151 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,800 The genius of Friel 152 00:08:41,919 --> 00:08:45,319 was to divide that into the public and the private self. 153 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,919 The public self, a bit like Brian himself 154 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,239 was diffident and not out there and gregarious. 155 00:08:52,639 --> 00:08:54,679 But the private self was witty, 156 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,480 sharp, intelligent. A very alive figure. 157 00:08:59,599 --> 00:09:02,958 There's something really important about that idea of walking around 158 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,120 with a secret version of yourself inside, isn't it? 159 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:10,440 I can think of three times where I've seen a play 160 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,599 or read a play and been envious of... 161 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,760 ...some technical idea in the middle of it. 162 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,839 And two of those three times 163 00:09:21,958 --> 00:09:24,000 the plays were by Brian. 164 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,879 I don't think anybody before then 165 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,800 had thought of having two actors playing one role simultaneously. 166 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:35,440 Remember, you're going. 167 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,599 At 7.15 you're still going. 168 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:41,679 He's nothing but a drunken oul schoolmaster. 169 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,440 A conceited arrogant washout. 170 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:47,519 Aw God, the creator, the redeemer of all the faith. 171 00:09:47,639 --> 00:09:50,958 Get a grip on yourself. Don't be a damn sentimental fool. 172 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,519 # Philadelphia, here I come. 173 00:09:54,239 --> 00:09:57,639 Moira and Una and Rose and Agnes and Lizzie. 174 00:09:57,760 --> 00:09:59,760 (US ACCENT) Yes sir, you're gonna cut a bit of a dash 175 00:09:59,879 --> 00:10:01,800 in them there states. 176 00:10:01,919 --> 00:10:04,360 Great big sexy dames and nightclubs and high living. 177 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,360 And films and dances and... 178 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,360 Cathy. My own darling Cathy. 179 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,239 # Where bowers of flowers bloom in the Spring. 180 00:10:12,239 --> 00:10:15,480 I can't. # Each morning at dawning everything is bright and gay. 181 00:10:15,599 --> 00:10:18,000 # A sun-kissed miss says don't be late, that's... 182 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,519 Come on, sing up man! 183 00:10:20,639 --> 00:10:22,720 I... I... 184 00:10:22,839 --> 00:10:25,000 # That's why I can't hardly wait. 185 00:10:29,319 --> 00:10:32,440 # Philadelphia, here I come. 186 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,599 That's it laddy buck. 187 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,679 (TOGETHER, SINGING) Philadelphia, here I come! 188 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,639 This is extraordinary stuff. 189 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,839 While he's very much established 190 00:10:45,958 --> 00:10:49,160 as almost the father of Irish theatre 191 00:10:49,279 --> 00:10:51,679 and certainly in the eyes of people 192 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,958 from outside this island - 193 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:57,839 really, he was, I think an experimenter all his life. 194 00:10:57,958 --> 00:11:00,360 I always just thought he was the bee's knees 195 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:02,839 as a playwright. 196 00:11:02,958 --> 00:11:04,958 And he knew that I thought that. 197 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:09,040 And with courteous reciprocity 198 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,400 he said something nice about my work. 199 00:11:11,519 --> 00:11:14,958 So you know we had a good basis for our friendship. 200 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,279 And 'Philadelphia, Here I Come!' 201 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,879 was just so effective. 202 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:27,000 (DRAMATIC MUSIC) 203 00:11:27,839 --> 00:11:30,400 Every single part of it is a critique 204 00:11:30,519 --> 00:11:33,559 of Irish society in the early 60's. 205 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:36,360 That forced thousands upon thousands 206 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,400 upon thousands of people to emigrate. To get away. 207 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,760 The stifling nature of church and state. 208 00:11:43,879 --> 00:11:46,440 The stifling nature of small town Ireland. 209 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,000 NARRATOR: 'Philadelphia, Here I Come!', 210 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,040 is set in the fictional small town of Ballybeg, 211 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,279 an imagined version of Glenties in Donegal 212 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,919 where he spent his childhood holidays. 213 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,679 Brian would use Ballybeg as the creative landscape 214 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,239 of his plays throughout his career. 215 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,919 Ballybeg, it's the anglicised version of 'baile beag'. Small town. 216 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:11,800 Ballybeg doesn't exist, y'know? It's not on any map. 217 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:16,040 'If I had to spend another week in Ballybeg, 218 00:12:17,319 --> 00:12:19,519 I'd go off my bloody head.' 219 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,559 He spent his summers in Donegal 220 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,599 with his mother's side of the family, the McLoones. 221 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,480 Glenties was a special place 222 00:12:28,599 --> 00:12:31,000 in both his imagination 223 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,120 and his heart. 224 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,720 In the fields and houses 225 00:12:37,839 --> 00:12:39,839 and families of Ballybeg 226 00:12:39,958 --> 00:12:43,239 he was able to create 227 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,360 a theatrical world 228 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,919 that connected with his emotional and inner world. 229 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,720 I think it's just one of his great achievements. 230 00:12:55,199 --> 00:12:58,679 NARRATOR: In 1966, 'Philadelphia, Here I Come!' 231 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:01,080 transferred to Broadway. 232 00:13:01,199 --> 00:13:03,599 FRIEL RECORDING: And when the curtain fell 233 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,480 after that second of mental adjustment, they clapped and cheered 234 00:13:07,599 --> 00:13:09,480 and called 'Bravo'. 235 00:13:09,599 --> 00:13:11,958 And standing limp at the back of the auditorium 236 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,800 I didn't give a damn what the critics would say. 237 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:18,360 Happily, they were rapturous next day. 238 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:20,400 They paid us the highest compliment they knew. 239 00:13:20,519 --> 00:13:23,559 They said briefly that we were a hit. 240 00:13:25,199 --> 00:13:27,440 NARRATOR: Brian struck gold with his first play 241 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:29,599 to be produced on Broadway. 242 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,958 But following it up with a second hit proved more difficult. 243 00:13:34,639 --> 00:13:37,239 Cass Maguire which came after Philadelphia... 244 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,080 That bombed very quick. And you see Guthrie was great 245 00:13:41,199 --> 00:13:43,958 because he said you just have to rise above. 246 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,080 Y'know, this was his phrase. 247 00:13:46,199 --> 00:13:49,319 And get up and start again. 248 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:51,639 So he learned that pretty early on in his career. 249 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,760 But I think it was the best thing ever 250 00:13:53,879 --> 00:13:56,319 because if he'd had another hit after Philadelphia 251 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,559 which was a terrific hit in New York 252 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:00,800 I think he would have said goodbye to me. (LAUGHS) 253 00:14:00,919 --> 00:14:03,000 Very quickly. (LAUGHS) 254 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,760 It would have been a different life, yeah. 255 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,839 (GENTLE MUSIC) 256 00:14:19,879 --> 00:14:22,760 Let me take this little treasure chest. 257 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,400 This this actually came from the Friel household. 258 00:14:26,519 --> 00:14:29,360 After Brian died, Anne and the family 259 00:14:29,479 --> 00:14:31,919 very generously gave me this. 260 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,720 And in these drawers are a range of letters 261 00:14:35,839 --> 00:14:39,119 from other people to Tyrone Guthrie 262 00:14:39,239 --> 00:14:42,159 who of course was such an influence on Brian's career. 263 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:44,680 I put some of Brian's letters 264 00:14:44,799 --> 00:14:46,799 in here as well. 265 00:14:47,919 --> 00:14:49,919 The humour comes across certainly. 266 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,479 I mean kind of impish humour is all over them. 267 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,600 And he signs off "TT". 268 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,760 Now "TT" is Totus Tuus in Latin. 269 00:14:57,879 --> 00:14:59,879 Totally yours. 270 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,960 Now we all, Brian, all of us went to St Columb's College. 271 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,080 We all learned Latin. 272 00:15:05,199 --> 00:15:08,040 So on one level you could think well that's just a homage to the Latin. 273 00:15:08,159 --> 00:15:11,280 But actually Totus Tuus was also 274 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,439 a song by Dana... 275 00:15:14,799 --> 00:15:18,159 ...to mark the papal visit of 1979. (LAUGHS) 276 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,360 And that's what Totus Tuus is about. 277 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,640 Brian was very encouraging. 278 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:28,760 The first project that I did was a drama, 'Tush A Bye Baby'. 279 00:15:28,879 --> 00:15:32,080 And Brian sent me this lovely wee card, 280 00:15:32,199 --> 00:15:34,400 just straight after. 281 00:15:34,519 --> 00:15:36,360 He wrote to people all the time. 282 00:15:36,479 --> 00:15:38,519 Y'know he would drop wee cards, that was his thing. 283 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,519 he did his correspondence in the morning. 284 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,559 But he kept in touch, y'know, 285 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,400 he was somebody who really connected with people. 286 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,559 And he wrote "Dear Margo, wonderful news from Gweedore 287 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,159 and so well deserved. Terrific. Do it again. 288 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,439 (LAUGHS) Very best, Brian". 289 00:15:53,559 --> 00:15:57,280 And it was that do it again thing that really was inspirational 290 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,439 y'know that he believed you could do something. 291 00:16:00,159 --> 00:16:02,799 I remember my father talking about Brian Friel when we were children. 292 00:16:02,919 --> 00:16:06,239 He used to go to the Waterside Chapel. He and his wife, Anne. 293 00:16:06,839 --> 00:16:08,960 And I remember him pointing him out to me one day and saying 294 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:11,640 that man there is a vey great man you know. 295 00:16:12,159 --> 00:16:14,519 Derry people claim Bran Friel. 296 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,879 I am quite chauvinistic about the fact that Brian comes from here. 297 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,280 And wrote about here and understood this place 298 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,600 and understood how people thought. 299 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,519 "You're a Derry man born and bred. That's right." 300 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,600 REPORTER V/O: Paddy Friel, schoolmaster 301 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,640 and father of the playwright Brian Friel. 302 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,680 "Has it been your experience that your students 303 00:16:37,799 --> 00:16:39,720 have been able to get a fair crack of the whip?" 304 00:16:39,839 --> 00:16:41,839 "Well, the very fact that they are Catholics 305 00:16:41,960 --> 00:16:45,640 is sufficient to debar them from employment 306 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,919 in the corporation." 307 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,040 "I've heard since I've been here 308 00:16:50,159 --> 00:16:52,400 a rather peculiar fact and that is that the Guild Hall 309 00:16:52,519 --> 00:16:55,080 which is the centre of the corporations activities 310 00:16:55,199 --> 00:16:58,919 here in the city is exclusively a Unionist employer. 311 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,479 Is this so? That is quite correct. 312 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,320 There's not even a Catholic... 313 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:07,720 ...cleaner employed in the Guild Hall. 314 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:10,320 It's policy to keep Catholics 315 00:17:10,439 --> 00:17:13,640 out of the Guild Hall itself." 316 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,519 "We are demanding homes, employment, freedom of speech 317 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,640 and freedom of assembly." 318 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,960 "We do not wish bloodshed or violence." 319 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,960 (CHEERING AND APPLAUSE) 320 00:17:25,479 --> 00:17:27,680 ANNE FRIEL: That was the first march really. 321 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,040 October the 5th, 1968. 322 00:17:34,439 --> 00:17:36,720 I can see Brian, I can see myself. 323 00:17:36,839 --> 00:17:39,760 And they've spelt the word 'equal rights' wrong 324 00:17:39,879 --> 00:17:41,879 on the big poster. 325 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:44,600 We then left the thing 326 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:46,839 and went through and I remember at the time thinking 327 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,000 what are all those police doing at the back of the marchers? 328 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,600 And we went on up and up the steps 329 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,199 to Spencer Road and came down Spencer Road 330 00:17:55,320 --> 00:17:58,799 and over the bridge without knowing that anything had gone wrong... 331 00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:02,040 ...with the march. 332 00:18:02,159 --> 00:18:04,199 Thinking that the police let them go 333 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,320 or I don't know how we thought it was going to end. 334 00:18:06,439 --> 00:18:09,640 And it was only when we came back to the City Hotel reception 335 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,119 that we discovered it had gone mad. Crazy. 336 00:18:12,239 --> 00:18:14,479 (SHOUTS AND SCREAMS) 337 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,960 It was because the cameras were there that time 338 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,680 and it photographed police 339 00:18:25,799 --> 00:18:28,359 treating people pretty badly. 340 00:18:28,479 --> 00:18:30,479 That that's how it got all the publicity then 341 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,119 and started the whole thing. The protests. The civil rights protests. 342 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:39,000 (SHOUTING, DRAMATIC MUSIC) 343 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,359 I'll tell you why you march. 344 00:18:41,479 --> 00:18:44,040 Because you live with eleven kids and a sick husband 345 00:18:44,159 --> 00:18:46,359 in two rooms that aren't fit for animals. 346 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,680 Because you exist on a state subsistence 347 00:18:50,799 --> 00:18:53,000 that is about enough to keep you alive but too small 348 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:55,519 to fire your guts. 349 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,359 Because you know your children are caught in the same morass. 350 00:19:01,479 --> 00:19:03,760 Because for the first time in your life 351 00:19:03,879 --> 00:19:06,400 you grumbled and someone else grumbled. 352 00:19:06,519 --> 00:19:08,919 And someone else. 353 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,720 And you heard each other and became aware that there were hundreds, 354 00:19:11,839 --> 00:19:14,680 thousands, millions of us all over the world. 355 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,680 And in a vague groping way, 356 00:19:17,799 --> 00:19:19,799 you were outraged. 357 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,359 FRIEL RECORDING: The Northern situation is basic 358 00:19:24,479 --> 00:19:28,559 to everything that one does I think, Hugh. And if you are as I was 359 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,439 a member of what is known as the Northern minority, 360 00:19:31,559 --> 00:19:34,519 I think you're conditioned from, almost from birth. 361 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,320 Now I have tackled it only once directly, 362 00:19:38,439 --> 00:19:40,559 In a play called 'The Freedom of the City'. 363 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,280 But I still think that's true of all the northern writers. 364 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,519 If it's not handled directly 365 00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,640 it certainly, it informs everything they write 366 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,320 and it informs all their attitudes. 367 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:59,479 'Freedom of the City' is set in 1970 in Derry, 368 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,080 in the aftermath of a broken up 369 00:20:02,199 --> 00:20:05,000 civil rights march, a banned civil rights march, 370 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,239 which was broken up by the police 371 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,280 and the British army. 372 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,640 Loosely based on the events of Bloody Sunday - 373 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,559 which I was present at actually - it was on a big civil rights march 374 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,919 during Bloody Sunday which was the 30th January 1972 375 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:22,159 thirteen people were killed-- 376 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,760 were murdered by the British army. 377 00:20:24,879 --> 00:20:27,199 And one man died later of his wounds. 378 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,600 And Brian's play 'Freedom of the City' 379 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,320 is his own imagined version 380 00:20:32,439 --> 00:20:35,839 of three of the civil rights demonstrators 381 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,879 breaking in to the Guild Hall in Derry. 382 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,359 So it was a very symbolic play in that sense. 383 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,600 Lily is this Catholic woman, married woman, 384 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,839 working as a cleaner. 385 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,320 Mother to eleven children. 386 00:20:51,439 --> 00:20:53,640 Living in abject poverty. 387 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,400 There's a great maternal warmth to her. 388 00:20:56,519 --> 00:20:59,359 A great colloquial turn of phrase. So from an audience perspective 389 00:20:59,479 --> 00:21:01,559 like you'd say oh, I know her! 390 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,559 I know what she is. 391 00:21:04,839 --> 00:21:07,839 The police surround the building. 392 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:13,280 And at the end forces them to come out. 393 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,919 And they come out and they're shot. 394 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,439 He needed an audience to feel 395 00:21:18,559 --> 00:21:20,760 the vulnerability and the... 396 00:21:20,879 --> 00:21:22,919 ...you know because they were going to die. 397 00:21:24,040 --> 00:21:27,159 Each of the three characters, Michael, Skinner and Lily 398 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,239 speak after the moment they have been shot. 399 00:21:33,239 --> 00:21:36,760 And with Lily you get this wisdom 400 00:21:36,879 --> 00:21:39,239 and self awareness that she hasn't displayed 401 00:21:39,919 --> 00:21:43,400 throughout the entire play. And it's to his credit 402 00:21:43,519 --> 00:21:46,040 of his bloody genius that it doesn't jar. 403 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,080 'In the silence before my body disintegrated 404 00:21:51,199 --> 00:21:55,159 into a purple convulsion, I thought I glimpsed a tiny truth. 405 00:21:57,479 --> 00:21:59,479 That life had eluded me 406 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:02,280 because never once in my 43 years 407 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,320 had an experience, an event, even a small unimportant happening 408 00:22:06,439 --> 00:22:08,680 been isolated and assessed 409 00:22:08,799 --> 00:22:10,839 and articulated.' 410 00:22:11,839 --> 00:22:14,760 'And the fact that this, my last experience 411 00:22:14,879 --> 00:22:17,439 was defined by this perception 412 00:22:17,559 --> 00:22:19,559 this was the... 413 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,600 ...culmination of sorrow. 414 00:22:24,479 --> 00:22:27,559 In a way, I died of grief.' 415 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,159 Now I'm reading that smiling because I think it's the most... 416 00:22:34,799 --> 00:22:37,119 ...insightful thing I've ever read. 417 00:22:37,239 --> 00:22:40,400 The fact that this, my last experience 418 00:22:40,519 --> 00:22:42,559 was defined by this perception. 419 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,119 It was the culmination of sorrow. 420 00:22:47,559 --> 00:22:50,239 To at 43 to look at your entire life 421 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,760 and that moment afterwards go 422 00:22:52,879 --> 00:22:54,879 ah, not once... 423 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,799 ...and then to die again of grief. 424 00:22:57,919 --> 00:23:00,680 Oh! Delicious, delicious. 425 00:23:01,559 --> 00:23:04,040 Awful. Awful. 426 00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:08,799 And in that moment 427 00:23:08,919 --> 00:23:11,320 because he's allowed you to fall in love with her, 428 00:23:11,439 --> 00:23:13,400 you die yourself of grief. 429 00:23:15,439 --> 00:23:19,199 It was really an extraordinary political play that... 430 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,080 ...was not what Brian had been used to writing. 431 00:23:24,199 --> 00:23:26,239 He's so controlled normally there's a slight sort of... 432 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,519 ...he's angry in this. 433 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,519 I was doing 'Freedom of the City' 434 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,320 directed by albert Finney in the Royal Court 435 00:23:36,439 --> 00:23:38,640 and that's when I met Brian 436 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,680 and it was really the combination of those two great men 437 00:23:43,879 --> 00:23:47,080 made this an incredible experience for me. 438 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,439 And the great thing about Albert 439 00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:53,320 who is a wonderful man of the theatre you know 440 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,199 When he read it he said we have to do this now. 441 00:23:57,879 --> 00:24:00,080 This is happening now. This happened... 442 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,720 ...a few months ago. 443 00:24:02,839 --> 00:24:04,960 We have to do it now. 444 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,799 NARRATOR: The Royal Court in London premiered the play 445 00:24:08,919 --> 00:24:10,919 at the same time it opened in Dublin. 446 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,040 But it was not well received. 447 00:24:14,199 --> 00:24:16,400 The plays depiction of the British army 448 00:24:16,519 --> 00:24:18,879 and the judicial report into their role in Bloody Sunday 449 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,479 was condemned as sheer propaganda 450 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,199 far fetched and unbelievable. 451 00:24:25,199 --> 00:24:27,760 There was an actor playing a British soldier in it 452 00:24:27,879 --> 00:24:31,680 and I remember talking to me and saying... 453 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,400 ...oh, he says, I don't believe a word of it. 454 00:24:37,519 --> 00:24:39,519 No, they must have been doing something, those people. 455 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,799 I mean it's a very big learn 456 00:24:43,919 --> 00:24:46,239 for an English audience. 457 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,519 It's not a surprise 458 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,799 that the public didn't go for it. 459 00:24:50,919 --> 00:24:53,239 And then we had some bomb scares. 460 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:55,919 And that was enough to empty the place. 461 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,239 "When you get the British army moving into your agent's office 462 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,040 and asking questions about your ringing back to Belfast 463 00:25:02,159 --> 00:25:04,720 to ask questions about you or when you get threatening letters 464 00:25:04,839 --> 00:25:08,400 you are really astonished. I found that I was being threatened 465 00:25:08,519 --> 00:25:11,119 by all kinds of people and all kinds of institutions 466 00:25:11,239 --> 00:25:13,720 and it seemed disproportionate... 467 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,600 ...to the statement I had made." 468 00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,799 In those days the New York Times 469 00:25:19,919 --> 00:25:22,600 they either made or broke a show. 470 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,479 You know? None of the other papers really counted. 471 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,159 So the critic there was a man called Clive Barnes 472 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:31,239 and he was an Englishman and Brian was very uneasy 473 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,760 about an Englishman reviewing this play on Broadway. 474 00:25:33,879 --> 00:25:37,640 He just dreaded it. 475 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,680 And all of the review just was... 476 00:25:44,199 --> 00:25:46,199 ...the English couldn't have done... 477 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,799 ...the British would never do anything like that. 478 00:25:48,919 --> 00:25:51,680 Then it closed. And that was tough. 479 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,760 After the great successes on Broadway, 480 00:25:56,879 --> 00:25:59,919 there was a period then when his plays 481 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,199 weren't successful in New York. 482 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,359 I mean 'Freedom of the City', 483 00:26:04,479 --> 00:26:07,159 you know, it bombed on Broadway. 484 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,400 When you would go to those openings 485 00:26:10,519 --> 00:26:13,040 there would be a list of interviews 486 00:26:13,159 --> 00:26:15,159 all lined up for you the next day 487 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,280 and for the next week. 488 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,600 If you're a failure, they're all cancelled. 489 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,439 That's it, y'know, so you've gotta get used to the brush off. 490 00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:26,919 And I remember one time he said he was sitting on a cushion 491 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,799 on the floor and all the money men were there. 492 00:26:30,919 --> 00:26:33,680 Waiting, waiting, waiting for the reviews to come in you see. 493 00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:37,680 And who the hell is this author anyway he says. (LAUGHS) 494 00:26:37,799 --> 00:26:40,280 One of them was saying to the other. And he put up his hand 495 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,519 and said "I'm the author". 496 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,159 And then it didn't work. The play didn't work. 497 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,400 They almost kicked him out, he says. 498 00:26:47,519 --> 00:26:49,839 Aw, it was awful. A humiliation. 499 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,680 Oh, no things were very lean for a long time 500 00:26:53,799 --> 00:26:55,799 in the 70's. 501 00:26:55,919 --> 00:26:58,839 One play after another. 502 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,960 Wasn't doing very well. 503 00:27:02,479 --> 00:27:04,479 INTERVIEWER: "Where are you going from there?" 504 00:27:05,839 --> 00:27:08,159 FRIEL: "I have no idea at all. I'm... 505 00:27:09,839 --> 00:27:12,119 ...a bit lost at the moment and very confused." 506 00:27:13,879 --> 00:27:15,879 There was a kind of a lean period 507 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,559 where, I mean they were perfectly good plays 508 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,960 but they just didn't seem to capture the zeitgeist 509 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,439 or whatever it was. I'm thinking of plays like 510 00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:27,239 'Volunteers' or 'Living Quarters'. 511 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,400 Plays that just didn't take. 512 00:27:31,879 --> 00:27:35,559 And that must have been very difficult for a writer. 513 00:27:36,879 --> 00:27:40,159 To have to deal with that because you must begin to wonder 514 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,640 have I lost the touch? 515 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,879 Is the muse as it were deserting? 516 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,680 And then I think the real feeling 517 00:27:49,799 --> 00:27:51,879 of failure on Broadway 518 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,119 was when they did 'Faith Healer'. 519 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,000 NARRATOR: The story of an itinerant healer 520 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,359 his wife and manager as they travel through remote villages 521 00:28:02,479 --> 00:28:05,040 offering cures to the sick and the desperate, 522 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,919 this new play was like nothing Brian had ever written before 523 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,080 and broke all the rules of conventional drama. 524 00:28:13,559 --> 00:28:15,839 Nobody in Ireland would touch it. 525 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,479 It was four monologues which first of all was different. 526 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,720 And then it was too scary for actors. 527 00:28:22,839 --> 00:28:25,119 Only then, for some reason or other 528 00:28:25,239 --> 00:28:27,760 James Mason wanted to go back into theatre. 529 00:28:27,879 --> 00:28:30,040 He was at that stage at the height of his film career 530 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,000 But he undertook to do it in New York. 531 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:38,199 But the theatre critics just said that's not a play. 532 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,559 Monologues. That's not a play. 533 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,119 So it closed after three weeks. 534 00:28:43,239 --> 00:28:45,239 And it would have closed much earlier only James Mason 535 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,519 didn't take any salary. 536 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,720 He didn't want to leave with only working for... I mean they can close 537 00:28:49,839 --> 00:28:53,640 in three days there if they want to but it ran for three weeks. 538 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,320 I was artistic director of The Abbey at the time 539 00:28:56,439 --> 00:28:58,559 and Brian came back, we were doing 'Aristocrats', 540 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,919 his play, here. And Brian came back and he was... 541 00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,479 ...pretty devastated by the experience. 542 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,640 And I'd read the play and thought this is a masterpiece. 543 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,199 I mean it was just, it was so unusual. 544 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,239 The monologue form. 545 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,000 The almost Rashomon 546 00:29:16,119 --> 00:29:18,439 kind of three different versions of the same story. 547 00:29:18,559 --> 00:29:20,559 I just thought we have to do it. 548 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,799 And I said it to Brian. 549 00:29:22,919 --> 00:29:25,199 I remember we were sitting in The Plough Lounge 550 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,360 across the road from The Abbey 551 00:29:27,479 --> 00:29:29,600 and I said we have to do this Brian 552 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,720 we have to do this play. "Oh no, no, no. 553 00:29:31,839 --> 00:29:35,760 I don't know that I could take the devastation of it again". 554 00:29:35,879 --> 00:29:38,400 And then about two days later, he called me. 555 00:29:38,519 --> 00:29:41,720 And he said "If you can persuade Donal McCann 556 00:29:41,839 --> 00:29:43,919 to play Frank Hardy, 557 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,320 we should do it". 558 00:29:47,919 --> 00:29:51,159 Brian knew that this was the man 559 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,040 who could find the core of Frank Hardy. 560 00:29:54,159 --> 00:29:56,439 The complex, dark 561 00:29:56,559 --> 00:29:59,479 the balance between that and the showman. 562 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:04,239 And we did it here at The Abbey in 1980. 563 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:08,320 And it transformed the history of the play. 564 00:30:09,119 --> 00:30:11,159 It suddenly was recognised 565 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,479 as the masterpiece that it is. 566 00:30:16,119 --> 00:30:18,119 'Faith healer. 567 00:30:19,239 --> 00:30:21,239 Faith healing. 568 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,799 A craft without an apprenticeship. 569 00:30:25,919 --> 00:30:28,199 A ministry without responsibility 570 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,760 A vocation... 571 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,640 without a ministry.' 572 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,919 His innovation as a playwright 573 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,479 was blinding. 574 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,159 I mean, y'know when we did 'Faith Healer' 575 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,360 and I read 'Faith Healer' and I thought 576 00:30:45,479 --> 00:30:47,360 'No! 577 00:30:47,479 --> 00:30:50,199 It's just not possible. How can you do that?' 578 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,400 Four monologues, no plot, no dialogue, 579 00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:55,559 no action, just storytelling. 580 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,760 How do you keep an audience engaged? 581 00:30:57,879 --> 00:31:00,119 And I used to watch Donal McCann, 582 00:31:00,239 --> 00:31:02,799 the most brilliant Francis Hardy ever. 583 00:31:02,919 --> 00:31:05,519 And every night he entranced me. 584 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,400 But it was the quality of Brian's storytelling. 585 00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:10,519 'I walked across the yard towards them.' 586 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,960 I played in 'Aristocrats' 587 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,119 and I played Grace in 'Faith Healer'. 588 00:31:16,159 --> 00:31:19,640 And both those women, y'know Grace particularly 589 00:31:21,119 --> 00:31:25,040 she was so hurt, so damaged. 590 00:31:27,479 --> 00:31:30,479 I sort of love all here sort of... she's very precise. 591 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,720 And her legal mind. 592 00:31:33,839 --> 00:31:36,519 And the choice of language 593 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,559 and words that she uses and that she self corrects - 594 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,600 a lot. 595 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,559 And he sometimes writes very long sentences 596 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,080 with lots of parentheses. 597 00:31:48,199 --> 00:31:50,519 And that to me, 598 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,640 suddenly you start to float 599 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,799 and it really is a bit like the way I'm speaking but better, 600 00:31:54,919 --> 00:31:58,600 where it's somebody's train of thought 601 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:00,720 and you're going with that train of thought 602 00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:02,839 and she doubles back on herself and then... And I just... 603 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,040 I felt that was revealing so much of her state of mind. 604 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,239 "Anyhow, that's where the baby is buried 605 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,159 in Kinlochbervie in Sutherland in the north of Scotland". 606 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,799 "Frank made a wooden cross 607 00:32:15,919 --> 00:32:18,799 to mark the grave and painted it white and wrote across it - 608 00:32:18,919 --> 00:32:22,640 'Infant child of Francis and Grace Hardy'. 609 00:32:23,199 --> 00:32:25,960 No name of course because it was stillborn. 610 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,919 Just 'Infant child'. 611 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,159 And I'm sure that cross is gone by now 612 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,600 because it was a fragile thing and there were cows in the field 613 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,879 and it wasn't a real cemetery anyway. 614 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,919 And I had the baby in the back of the van and there was no nurse 615 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,519 or doctor, so no-one knew anything about it 616 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,919 except Frank and Teddy and me. 617 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,239 And there was no clergyman at the graveside. 618 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,239 Frank just said a few prayers that he made up. 619 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,680 So there is no record 620 00:32:51,799 --> 00:32:54,000 of any kind. 621 00:32:54,119 --> 00:32:56,479 And he never talked about it afterwards. 622 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,119 Never once mentioned it again. 623 00:32:59,239 --> 00:33:02,280 And because he didn't, neither did I. 624 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,400 So that was it. 625 00:33:04,519 --> 00:33:07,119 Over and done with. A finished thing. 626 00:33:07,239 --> 00:33:09,239 Yes. 627 00:33:10,479 --> 00:33:12,879 But I think it's a nice name, Kinlochbervie. 628 00:33:13,879 --> 00:33:15,879 A complete sound. 629 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,519 A name you wouldn't forget easily.' 630 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,960 I just think it's... 631 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,479 It's... It's just so moving 632 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,360 that she not been allowed... 633 00:33:29,479 --> 00:33:32,360 to name her child. 634 00:33:32,479 --> 00:33:35,040 And so she names... 635 00:33:35,159 --> 00:33:38,680 She sort of gives the name of the place... 636 00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:41,199 ..this weight... 637 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,360 and power I think is... 638 00:33:43,479 --> 00:33:46,119 is just so beautiful. 639 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,040 You could follow the emotional journey of that woman so easily. 640 00:33:50,159 --> 00:33:53,479 That's what he did, Brian, all the time. 641 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,960 He presented us with the interior lives of his characters. 642 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:01,000 You know most times, actors have to invent backstory. 643 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:06,199 Because writers don't give you much so you invent your own. 644 00:34:06,879 --> 00:34:09,000 But with Brian, you know, 645 00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:11,320 you had a wealth 646 00:34:11,439 --> 00:34:13,799 of detail about your character. Always. 647 00:34:14,919 --> 00:34:16,919 "You can take the entire script 648 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,080 and you can cut out on every single line 649 00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:21,199 you can lose, on every single page you can lose two lines. Yeah. 650 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,320 Two lines every single page which means 651 00:34:23,439 --> 00:34:25,600 that you're gonna cut the play by three quarters of an hour. 652 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,320 Now if you do that, 653 00:34:27,439 --> 00:34:29,518 you then have to start re-rehearsing the entire play." 654 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,839 He used to always say "I don't let the play leave my desk 655 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:35,960 until I'm certain 656 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:38,518 that that is what I want to say". 657 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,479 And he would talk about the music of the first production. 658 00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,719 That the music of the first production 659 00:34:43,839 --> 00:34:45,839 defined the play very often. 660 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,199 Now he doesn't mean just music as... he means the way the actors... 661 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,518 the way the whole thing came together. 662 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,439 And you did not dare 663 00:34:54,559 --> 00:34:56,879 to change a word 664 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,199 or a comma even. 665 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,839 And I remember we were doing a play 666 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,559 at one point and this young actor 667 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,400 she was very young and very inexperienced. 668 00:35:08,518 --> 00:35:11,080 And she said, "Brian, 669 00:35:11,199 --> 00:35:13,839 I've been working on this and this line doesn't work." 670 00:35:15,839 --> 00:35:18,799 Again, everybody in the room 671 00:35:18,919 --> 00:35:21,000 people dived for cover, y'know. 672 00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:23,799 And Brian looked at her over his glasses 673 00:35:23,919 --> 00:35:26,040 and said "It's your job to make it work." 674 00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:31,199 He wanted as much control as he could have. 675 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,159 He wouldn't change any of them, y'know. 676 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,879 He would freak if you did. 677 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,280 (LAUGHS) 678 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,520 NARRATOR: Brian would gain more control 679 00:35:53,639 --> 00:35:55,560 of the production of his plays 680 00:35:55,679 --> 00:35:58,760 when he and Stephen Rea set up their own theatre company 681 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,959 called Field Day in 1980. 682 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,239 I'd always wanted to have a company. 683 00:36:05,359 --> 00:36:07,239 A friend of mine drove me to Muff. 684 00:36:07,359 --> 00:36:09,880 Where Brian lived at the time. 685 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,160 And when I said "Look, I think there's some money 686 00:36:13,279 --> 00:36:16,919 in the Arts Council. Is there ANY chance 687 00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:19,359 you could write a play for us?" 688 00:36:21,399 --> 00:36:23,719 And he says "Well, I'm writing one at the moment". 689 00:36:24,599 --> 00:36:27,039 About, eh, place names. 690 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,520 Eventually he sent me I think the first act 691 00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:33,319 of 'Translations'. 692 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:35,599 And I knew it was a masterpiece. 693 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,800 And I knew that unless he had a nervous breakdown 694 00:36:39,919 --> 00:36:42,200 the rest would be a masterpiece as well, y'know. 695 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,760 "I think ideally if we cut twenty minutes off it, 696 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,760 I think we'd be..." 697 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,880 Stephen used to arrive with a plastic bag 698 00:36:49,998 --> 00:36:53,160 with his belongings in it. Like he was a kid brother to Brian 699 00:36:53,279 --> 00:36:55,279 at the time, he really was. They were such pals. 700 00:36:55,399 --> 00:36:57,760 The kids used to call him 'Grumpy'. 701 00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:59,919 He never... (SHE LAUGHS) 702 00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:02,760 Y'see we'd have a meal, we ate in the kitchen 703 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,880 and Brian would be washing dishes. Stephen never got up 704 00:37:04,998 --> 00:37:08,160 to lift a cup away from the table or do anything ever. 705 00:37:08,279 --> 00:37:10,840 He just sat there and you see these two kids 706 00:37:10,959 --> 00:37:13,200 were made lift and everything. 707 00:37:13,319 --> 00:37:15,599 No, they didn't approve of him at times. 708 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,760 But he was the best of craic, he really was. 709 00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,359 And then we got on so well together. 710 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,440 'I must say to you that if at any point 711 00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,959 you feel that the organisation which is teetering into being 712 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,359 will not do your play justice 713 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,998 and you want to withdraw it 714 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,719 and give it to someone who will 715 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,279 I will understand and not be offended. (LAUGHS) 716 00:37:42,959 --> 00:37:45,279 I may cut my throat but that's all.' 717 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,639 'There is no reason why you should sacrifice your work 718 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,760 for some hare-brained scheme. 719 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,998 Well it wasn't a hare-brained' scheme. 720 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,039 It was a moment that was... 721 00:37:56,919 --> 00:37:59,039 ...where we completely... 722 00:38:00,359 --> 00:38:02,679 ...got what our responsibility was 723 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:04,800 in terms, as artists. 724 00:38:04,919 --> 00:38:07,599 For the place where we lived. 725 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,880 "Stephen and I formed a company, 726 00:38:11,998 --> 00:38:14,039 got a company of actors together. 727 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,319 And we're going into rehearsal in a few months time." 728 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,480 I mean working with 'Field Day' was a terrific experience. 729 00:38:20,599 --> 00:38:22,919 Y'know, I was young at the time. 730 00:38:23,039 --> 00:38:26,520 And just to be caught up in this atmosphere. 731 00:38:26,639 --> 00:38:28,959 There had been nothing like it in Derry. 732 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,359 Here was this theatre company who were going to 733 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:36,319 put on a play set in a hedge school in County Donegal 734 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,760 in the 19th century and they were going to do it in the Guild Hall, 735 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,880 of all places. 736 00:38:40,998 --> 00:38:44,359 Everybody was aware that they were doing something pioneering. 737 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,520 I knew in so many ways 738 00:38:46,639 --> 00:38:48,760 it wasn't just the thoughts and the ideas - 739 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,800 it was trying to turn this space that so wasn't a theatre 740 00:38:50,919 --> 00:38:52,719 into a theatre. 741 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,840 But I remember the firs time I met Brian. 742 00:38:54,959 --> 00:38:58,520 I was so, so shy. And both he and Anne 743 00:38:58,639 --> 00:39:00,959 just looked me intently in the eye and welcomed me. 744 00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,279 And ever since that it was like you were a member of their family. 745 00:39:06,639 --> 00:39:09,279 I liked him but I was wary of him, y'know? 746 00:39:09,399 --> 00:39:12,599 Because he's a playwright, he's a famous playwright. 747 00:39:13,998 --> 00:39:16,080 And certainly he was there 748 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,800 in the rehearsal room every day, y'know? 749 00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:25,120 Smoking, y'know. Watching. 750 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,039 "Let's go on. I'm alright, yes I'm happy. Huh? Yes." 751 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,840 NARRATOR: Outside of the rehearsal room in Derry, 752 00:39:30,959 --> 00:39:32,880 political tension and violence 753 00:39:32,998 --> 00:39:35,919 continued to blight life in Northern Ireland. 754 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,399 FRIEL: "Well the bomb scares make the place 755 00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,520 make the enterprise somehow surreal in some way. 756 00:39:41,639 --> 00:39:43,639 It seems kind of strange putting on a play 757 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,279 when you're surrounded by a revolutionary situation." 758 00:39:49,639 --> 00:39:52,160 I will never forget as long as I live, 759 00:39:52,279 --> 00:39:55,800 that opening night of 'Translations' in Derry. 760 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,279 The helicopter was up hovering up above 761 00:39:59,399 --> 00:40:01,480 and you were searched going in to the Guild Hall. 762 00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:03,639 The front of the hall was full 763 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,080 of guests from the political arena. 764 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,319 I remember Martin McGuinness was in the front row to the right. 765 00:40:14,279 --> 00:40:17,998 And Marlene Jefferson who was the first female mayor of Derry 766 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:20,120 was sitting in the front row and everybody wondered 767 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,239 what she would make of the play. 768 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,560 And she, you know, she was a Unionist. 769 00:40:25,679 --> 00:40:28,359 But she... an enormously generous woman. 770 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,160 And you know first nights as you know 771 00:40:33,279 --> 00:40:36,080 are kind of awkward and I wasn't sure how it'd go on. 772 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,200 And Marlene... 773 00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,080 ...was in the front, she stood up. 774 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,919 And gave us a standing... Everybody had to rise with her. 775 00:40:45,039 --> 00:40:47,440 It's like Handel's Messiah, y'know. 776 00:40:48,959 --> 00:40:51,279 And it became a triumph at that moment. 777 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,200 It was one of the most magical nights ever 778 00:40:54,319 --> 00:40:56,840 I've experienced in the theatre. 779 00:40:56,959 --> 00:40:58,959 And it was really wonderful for me to be there. 780 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,919 One of the few times I say it to be there on the first night, 781 00:41:02,039 --> 00:41:04,520 because I really had no idea 782 00:41:04,639 --> 00:41:06,760 about what I was going to see. 783 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,399 So I just was transported. 784 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,480 'So what do you think? Yes. Are you happy with that? Yes.' 785 00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:16,800 NARRATOR: Set in 1833, 786 00:41:16,919 --> 00:41:18,919 the play tells the story of what happens 787 00:41:19,039 --> 00:41:21,039 when a group of Royal Engineers 788 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,359 arrive in the Irish speaking community of Ballybeg, 789 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,599 and begin translating the local Gaelic place names into English 790 00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,919 for the first ordinance survey of Ireland. 791 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,080 And you look at that line again "Remember words are signals". 792 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,239 I just found this the other day. This is the original... 793 00:41:40,359 --> 00:41:43,800 ...script, working copy of 'Translations' that each of is got. 794 00:41:45,998 --> 00:41:48,319 And when I found it the other day, this just great... 795 00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:52,399 (GASPS)...struck me in the heart, y'know. The memory of it. 796 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,959 'Translations' is an example 797 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,399 of how he dealt with the political question 798 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,959 in a more oblique way but yet it was so direct too. 799 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,200 You know, the fact that it talked about 800 00:42:05,319 --> 00:42:07,480 the removal of the Irish language and it's impact on people 801 00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:09,359 and how you feel this terrible sense of loss 802 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,319 among the community in Ballybeg. 803 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,679 The only thing now you need to add into that is his pain. 804 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,120 His personal pain. Mm, okay. From the top? Yeah. Okay. 805 00:42:19,319 --> 00:42:21,800 'Yes, it's a rich language lieutenant.' 806 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,599 'Full of mythologies and fantasy. 807 00:42:25,319 --> 00:42:28,319 And hope and self deception.' 808 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,160 'A syntax opulent with tomorrows.' 809 00:42:35,399 --> 00:42:38,359 'It is our response to mud cabins 810 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,560 and the diet of potatoes.' 811 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,080 'Our only method of replying to... 812 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,160 ...inevitabilities.' 813 00:42:50,279 --> 00:42:52,599 As Friel said to me himself 814 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,719 it's all about language. 815 00:42:56,359 --> 00:42:59,760 And I said, what? The play? 'Translations'? The theatre? 816 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:01,880 'No,' he says. 'Everything. 817 00:43:03,039 --> 00:43:05,679 Everything is about language.' 818 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,840 And that has stayed with me. 819 00:43:07,959 --> 00:43:11,639 And that we were offering language as... 820 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,760 ...a solution to... 821 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,279 ... the terrible, terrible things that were going on 822 00:43:18,399 --> 00:43:21,800 in this town and in this part of Ireland. 823 00:43:21,919 --> 00:43:24,880 "People say 'Oh, you belong in the tradition of Irish drama.' 824 00:43:24,998 --> 00:43:28,560 Which is, they say then, Farquhar, Wilde, Shaw, Sheridan, so on. 825 00:43:28,679 --> 00:43:30,840 And in fact these were all Irish dramatists 826 00:43:30,959 --> 00:43:33,200 who went over and acquired a voice. 827 00:43:34,359 --> 00:43:36,359 An English voice so that they could be more acceptable 828 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,480 to English people. 829 00:43:38,599 --> 00:43:40,599 I think what Yeats did for us on this island was that he said 830 00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,480 you don't have to do that, you can stay on this island... 831 00:43:44,679 --> 00:43:47,760 ...speak to your own people in your own voice... 832 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:51,959 ...and find some kind of completion in that." 833 00:43:52,679 --> 00:43:55,480 LIAM NEESON: It certainly was a statement, y'know? 834 00:43:55,959 --> 00:43:59,800 And what a statement it was with this extraordinary play. 835 00:43:59,919 --> 00:44:02,279 The changing of place names, 836 00:44:02,399 --> 00:44:05,840 these historic place names, Irish place names into English. 837 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,080 'Machrel buide. Ta. Machrel buide.' 838 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,560 'Croch na mona. Croch na mona.' 839 00:44:11,679 --> 00:44:14,319 And Brian, with 'Translations' certainly 840 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,760 found the words 841 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:20,359 and certainly words that the play's based on. 842 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,679 What's the right word to translate 843 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,160 that Irish into English? 844 00:44:25,279 --> 00:44:27,840 'Ma raibh ceatog?' 845 00:44:27,959 --> 00:44:30,719 LIAM NEESON: And there's Yolland 846 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,840 trying to find the right words of love 847 00:44:32,959 --> 00:44:36,200 to express to this woman who's speaking in Irish. 848 00:44:36,319 --> 00:44:39,440 It's just beautifully intermingled, y'know? 849 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,760 'Lis na na?' 850 00:44:43,399 --> 00:44:45,399 'Lios na ngra.' 851 00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,639 Such brilliant playmaking. 852 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,998 These are two people, neither of which speak the other's language. 853 00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,959 And one is speaking Irish, the other is speaking English. 854 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,080 But we are actually hearing both in English. 855 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,399 'Don't stop. I know what you're saying.' 856 00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:03,520 'I would tell you how I want to be here.' 857 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,480 'To live here.' 858 00:45:09,399 --> 00:45:11,399 'With you.' 859 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,599 'Always.' 860 00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,760 'Always. Always?' 861 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,880 'Sorry what is that word? Always?' 862 00:45:22,998 --> 00:45:24,998 'Yes, yes, always.' 863 00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:28,998 And it's only a master craftsman like Friel - 864 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,359 could first of all dare to think of that - 865 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,480 and then actually 866 00:45:35,599 --> 00:45:37,998 make it work so brilliantly. 867 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:41,160 The two participants can't actually understand each other 868 00:45:41,279 --> 00:45:43,679 but the audience understands both of them. 869 00:45:44,679 --> 00:45:47,998 That was so deft and simple and dramatic 870 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:50,399 and effective and moving. 871 00:45:51,359 --> 00:45:53,719 (SINGING FROM THE VAN) 872 00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,760 NARRATOR: Field Day's goal was to take the play 873 00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,440 to Irish audiences in small towns and villages 874 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,599 all over the country. 875 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,599 'Translations' has become a modern classic. 876 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,560 It's appeal to audiences around the world 877 00:46:07,679 --> 00:46:10,560 has led to productions from London and New York 878 00:46:10,679 --> 00:46:12,919 to Minsk and Mumbai. 879 00:46:16,279 --> 00:46:19,399 STEPHEN REA: This is us touring with 'Translations'. 880 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,760 Not everybody is there. I dunno, Big Liam's not there. 881 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,840 Oh, he's probably in the pub. 882 00:46:26,959 --> 00:46:28,998 We were just like a little touring group. 883 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,880 With this fresh, new, vital play. 884 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,959 Barnstorming around Ireland. One night stands. 885 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,279 Going round village halls. 886 00:46:39,319 --> 00:46:42,200 Entertaining people but with something rather special. 887 00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,560 We were on the road for a long time 888 00:46:45,679 --> 00:46:47,840 and there was wearing and tearing 889 00:46:47,959 --> 00:46:51,399 and y'know, you didn't have big deal dressing rooms, y'know. 890 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,120 And I walked in 891 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,239 to what was where we were supposed to be changing 892 00:46:56,359 --> 00:46:59,880 and Roy Hanlon who was Scottish, y'know? 893 00:47:01,599 --> 00:47:04,760 He was lying on a table, trying to rest. 894 00:47:06,399 --> 00:47:08,998 And I says - Ah Roy, how are you? 895 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,520 And he looks at me and he says - 896 00:47:11,639 --> 00:47:15,239 'Did you ever get the feeling your career was moving backwards?' 897 00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,279 (LAUGHS) He did. 898 00:47:19,399 --> 00:47:21,399 Ah, dear. 899 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,840 That's the pure actor response to being on the road. 900 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,440 And as we went round Ireland, he and Anne would come and visit us. 901 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,160 And it was like your parents coming to see you, d'you know? 902 00:47:32,279 --> 00:47:34,239 To make sure you were alright 903 00:47:34,359 --> 00:47:36,679 and give you courage to keep going cos it was hard, y'know. 904 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,359 He loved actors. He really did, he loved their company. 905 00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,480 He admired them enormously for their courage. 906 00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:44,919 He would come to... 907 00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:48,359 ..every opening night he could or certainly send a telegram. 908 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,599 Which I thought was so classy 909 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,719 and so amazing. 910 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,840 He was lovely. Grumpy. 911 00:47:55,959 --> 00:47:58,998 Lovely, like every 912 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,399 older Irish man I know. Grumpy and lovely. 913 00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,760 And pressing a fiver into my hand to go up and get him a brandy. 914 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,279 (LAUGHS) 915 00:48:06,399 --> 00:48:08,399 STEPHEN REA: He was a showman. 916 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,520 But he was very, very shy as well. 917 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,279 But a few 'deochs' and away he went, y'know. 918 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,998 (LAUGHS) And he was great fun. 919 00:48:20,279 --> 00:48:22,279 Yeah, that's a good line, shy man and a showman. 920 00:48:22,399 --> 00:48:25,080 That's it for me, yeah. 921 00:48:25,998 --> 00:48:28,480 In later years Brian, 922 00:48:28,599 --> 00:48:31,039 had a kind of an aversion to directors. 923 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,399 He said a certain point 924 00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:36,039 that we were like bus conductors, he said. 925 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,080 We were told we couldn't get rid of bus conductors, 926 00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,200 we got rid of them and buses still ran 927 00:48:41,319 --> 00:48:44,160 and they were perfectly... So we could do the same with directors. 928 00:48:44,279 --> 00:48:46,560 Which I found a little disconcerting, 929 00:48:46,679 --> 00:48:48,760 considering that I had just finished doing a play with him 930 00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,998 when he said this. 931 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:53,239 Brian had his opinions 932 00:48:53,359 --> 00:48:55,359 and he was marked by having 933 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,639 very specific, unchanging positions 934 00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,239 on very many things. 935 00:49:01,359 --> 00:49:04,480 Including of course the role of the director. 936 00:49:05,679 --> 00:49:08,039 Which he famously called 937 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,520 'a bogus job.' 938 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,200 That he didn't see the need for them. 939 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,279 Theatre had survived without them up to a hundred years ago. 940 00:49:18,399 --> 00:49:20,800 And really there was something bogus 941 00:49:20,919 --> 00:49:23,319 about the whole role of the director. 942 00:49:23,959 --> 00:49:25,959 So you want to bear that in mind 943 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,080 when you're directing Brian's plays. 944 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,760 (GENTLE MUSIC) 945 00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,279 NARRATOR: Brian wrote a dozen more plays after 'Translations', 946 00:49:36,399 --> 00:49:39,880 always pushing at the boundaries of theatrical convention. 947 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,160 But it was a return to Ballybeg 948 00:49:43,279 --> 00:49:45,319 and his childhood memories of Glenties 949 00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,120 that brought him global recognition 950 00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,120 and an international hit late in his career. 951 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:54,520 FRIEL: "I feel that I'm in someway... 952 00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:57,840 ...haunted by my own past in some kind of way." 953 00:49:57,959 --> 00:50:00,480 "By childhood memories and by... 954 00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:04,480 ...loves that never happened and loves that didn't flourish 955 00:50:04,599 --> 00:50:08,039 and angers that were misplaced and misdirected." 956 00:50:09,279 --> 00:50:11,520 "So that I think 957 00:50:11,639 --> 00:50:13,719 this is one of the perks 958 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,959 of literature is that you can recreate your life 959 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,080 as often as you wish." 960 00:50:21,399 --> 00:50:23,679 'Dancing at Lughnasa' was a phenomenon. 961 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,239 It was a phenomenon here, it was a phenomenon in London, 962 00:50:26,359 --> 00:50:28,359 it was a phenomenon on Broadway. 963 00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,599 It ran on Broadway for a long time. 964 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:32,840 It won the Tony. It won the Tony for it's director, 965 00:50:32,959 --> 00:50:35,840 and Tony nominations for many of it's cast. 966 00:50:35,959 --> 00:50:38,679 It truly was a phenomenon. 967 00:50:39,679 --> 00:50:42,520 He was with Tom Kilroy in London 968 00:50:42,639 --> 00:50:44,919 and he was walking down the Strand. 969 00:50:45,039 --> 00:50:47,880 And there were all these... 970 00:50:47,998 --> 00:50:51,200 ...virtually every door in the Strand, even today 971 00:50:51,319 --> 00:50:54,800 had these sort of cardboard quilted vagrants. 972 00:50:54,919 --> 00:50:57,599 And Brian said to Kilroy... 973 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,239 ...I'm sure there'll be Irish people among them. 974 00:51:04,359 --> 00:51:07,599 And then he told him a story of his aunts. 975 00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:11,639 Two of whom he believed to have been 976 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,679 vagrants sleeping on the street. 977 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,760 And Kilroy said, you must write a play. 978 00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,480 He had whatever facts he had which were very few, 979 00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:23,919 I presume. 980 00:51:24,039 --> 00:51:26,319 And then entered into an imaginative 981 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,719 recreation of those people. 982 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:32,399 And created the play which was 'Dancing at Lughnasa'. 983 00:51:34,599 --> 00:51:36,599 FRIEL: "When I was a boy 984 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:38,880 we always spent a portion of our summer holidays 985 00:51:38,998 --> 00:51:41,279 in my mother's old home near the village of Glenties 986 00:51:41,399 --> 00:51:43,399 in County Donegal." 987 00:51:44,319 --> 00:51:46,440 "I have memories of those holidays 988 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,480 that are as pellucid, as intense 989 00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:51,599 as if they happened last week." 990 00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,800 "I remember in detail the shape of cups hanging in the scullery. 991 00:51:57,599 --> 00:51:59,840 The pattern of flags on the kitchen floor. 992 00:52:00,679 --> 00:52:04,239 Every knot of wood on the wooden stairway. 993 00:52:04,359 --> 00:52:06,800 Every door handle. Every smell. 994 00:52:06,919 --> 00:52:09,800 The shape and texture of every tree around the place." 995 00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,719 Friel sets it in a kitchen, 996 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,760 of the Mundy sisters, these five sisters. 997 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,319 And this is probably his most autobiographical play, 998 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,279 because his mother was one of the sisters 999 00:52:28,399 --> 00:52:30,520 and the four sisters were his aunts. 1000 00:52:30,639 --> 00:52:32,639 Like she's letting out something pagan 1001 00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,200 something wild in her. 1002 00:52:35,319 --> 00:52:37,319 And all his characters seems to have that 1003 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,440 so there's kind of a pleasure in that isn't there. 1004 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,239 NIAMH CUSACK: The reason I wanted to play Maggie 1005 00:52:42,359 --> 00:52:44,319 was because of the dance. 1006 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,760 She's been making the bread and she's been told this story 1007 00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,800 about Bernie O'Donnell dancing with this young man 1008 00:52:50,919 --> 00:52:53,998 that she, Maggie has been in love with, 1009 00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,120 but never got near. 1010 00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:00,200 And you sort of feel that she never let that show. 1011 00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,279 And she's finished the story and Marconi's, the radio starts up. 1012 00:53:06,399 --> 00:53:08,200 (MUSIC PLAYS FROM THE RADIO) 1013 00:53:08,319 --> 00:53:10,319 'Maggie turns round.' 1014 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,359 'Her head is cocked to the beat. To the music. 1015 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,560 She's breathing deeply, rapidly. 1016 00:53:16,679 --> 00:53:20,319 Now her features become animated by a look of defiance, 1017 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,998 of aggression, a crude mask of happiness.' 1018 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,359 'For a few seconds, she stands still, listening. 1019 00:53:28,959 --> 00:53:30,959 Absorbing the rhythm, 1020 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,080 surveying her sisters with her defiant grimace.' 1021 00:53:34,279 --> 00:53:37,800 'Now she spreads her fingers which are covered with flour, 1022 00:53:37,919 --> 00:53:39,959 pushes her hair back from her face. 1023 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,998 Pulls her hands down her cheeks 1024 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,160 and patterns her face 1025 00:53:44,279 --> 00:53:46,120 with an instant mask.' 1026 00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,279 (SCREAMS) 1027 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,719 'With this too loud music, this pounding beat 1028 00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:54,919 this shouting, calling, singing, 1029 00:53:55,039 --> 00:53:57,639 this parodic reel, 1030 00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,800 there is a sense of order being consciously subverted. 1031 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,840 Of the women consciously and crudely caricaturing themselves. 1032 00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,800 Indeed, of near hysteria being induced.' 1033 00:54:10,998 --> 00:54:13,760 To me it was the most powerful 1034 00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,959 depiction of 1035 00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:19,800 the savage pagan aspect of dance 1036 00:54:19,919 --> 00:54:21,998 that I've ever seen staged 1037 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,200 since Stravinsky and Nijinsky's 'Rite of Spring', you know, 1038 00:54:25,319 --> 00:54:27,399 which is in ballet repertories. 1039 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,719 And there again that's... 1040 00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,039 It's something that wells up and bursts out 1041 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,480 and it's as if the dance 1042 00:54:34,599 --> 00:54:36,998 was expressing something 1043 00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,120 that they couldn't contain it anymore. 1044 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,279 You know they're very... 1045 00:54:42,359 --> 00:54:45,679 ...restrained simple lives. 1046 00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:49,080 And whatever their unhappinesses were 1047 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,480 was buried and then this explosion of dance. 1048 00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:55,120 It gives me goosebumps to think about it. 1049 00:54:56,599 --> 00:54:59,679 What he said to me is that words fail us, 1050 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,160 at moments of great emotion. 'Language has become depleted 1051 00:55:03,279 --> 00:55:06,760 for me in some way. Words have lost their accuracy and precision. 1052 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,319 So I use dance in the play as a surrogate for language.' 1053 00:55:10,959 --> 00:55:13,039 And because dance 1054 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,520 is sort of the art of suggestion 1055 00:55:15,639 --> 00:55:18,399 and it's all about nuance 1056 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,279 and it's all about what can be expressed without words. 1057 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,239 REPORTER: "It's a far cry from Hollywood Boulevard 1058 00:55:25,359 --> 00:55:27,679 but Main St, Glenties was about to get a visit 1059 00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:29,599 from one of the biggest names in film." 1060 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,719 "Meryl Streep was the star of the show 1061 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,399 and the show was a special screening of her latest movie 1062 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:37,959 Brian Friel's Dancing at Lughnasa, set in Donegal." 1063 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,080 ANNE FRIEL: Aw, she was great. She came to Glenties. 1064 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:42,039 And she was lovely. 1065 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,520 I think he thought this softened it up a bit, 1066 00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,359 from what the original thing would have been. 1067 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,520 But that wouldn't have been a success maybe 1068 00:55:51,639 --> 00:55:54,319 if it hadn't been (LAUGHS), yeah. 1069 00:55:55,440 --> 00:55:58,998 Cos they really had a tough time, those girls in the play. 1070 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,800 The original play, y'know, their lives. 1071 00:56:02,679 --> 00:56:04,800 It wasn't all gentle. 1072 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:09,560 (BIRDS SINGING) 1073 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,160 There's a yearning that I think touches 1074 00:56:12,279 --> 00:56:14,520 a lot of human beings. 1075 00:56:14,639 --> 00:56:17,120 You know there's something in his plays 1076 00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,160 which is about reaching for love. 1077 00:56:20,279 --> 00:56:24,080 For being part of something 1078 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,599 that I think we all recognise. 1079 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,998 Friel's plays couldn't be more specific 1080 00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,120 to a time and place. 1081 00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,279 That makes the universal. 1082 00:56:35,399 --> 00:56:39,359 That's why there's ten thousand million, 1083 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,120 trillion productions of Lughnasa, 1084 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:44,800 because it speaks to everybody. 1085 00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,319 (GENTLE MUSIC) 1086 00:56:51,679 --> 00:56:54,160 He opened things up in a way 1087 00:56:54,279 --> 00:56:56,840 that has had a major impact 1088 00:56:56,959 --> 00:56:59,560 on younger writers and younger directors and younger actors. 1089 00:57:00,919 --> 00:57:04,679 Everybody knew who he was and everybody acknowledged 1090 00:57:04,919 --> 00:57:07,919 his mastery at what he did. 1091 00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,120 So yeah, he certainly has been 1092 00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:14,840 hugely, I think, influential. 1093 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:25,160 (GENTLE MUSIC) 1094 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:35,080 When he was very old, I was in Ireland. 1095 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,760 I just wanted to make a pilgrimage 1096 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,200 to Brian in Donegal. 1097 00:57:40,319 --> 00:57:43,599 And had this delightful day with Brian and Anne. 1098 00:57:44,919 --> 00:57:47,200 Brian was very pleased, he really was. 1099 00:57:48,319 --> 00:57:51,039 Way back, the two of them were in New York 1100 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,399 when 'Philadelphia' went on, 1101 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,200 and 'Rosencrantz and Guildenstern' went on. 1102 00:57:56,319 --> 00:57:59,240 So Brian had been following his career all along. 1103 00:58:00,359 --> 00:58:03,160 Brian is one of the great storytellers, 1104 00:58:03,279 --> 00:58:05,560 so we had this wonderful talk together. 1105 00:58:05,679 --> 00:58:08,560 I suspect I did most of the listening. 1106 00:58:08,679 --> 00:58:12,599 What you don't forget is what it was like to be talking to him. 1107 00:58:13,279 --> 00:58:15,800 And sitting at a table with him 1108 00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,560 He died the following October. 1109 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,319 (GENTLE MUSIC) 1110 00:58:34,999 --> 00:58:36,999 (CLOSING THEME) 82655

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