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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:22,935 --> 00:00:24,415 - okay. 4 00:00:32,423 --> 00:00:35,252 - I'm ready. 5 00:00:35,296 --> 00:00:37,211 - jacquiese, stand up. 6 00:00:37,254 --> 00:00:40,170 Jacquiese whelchel is not guilty of false imprisonment, 7 00:00:40,214 --> 00:00:42,781 attempted false imprisonment, 8 00:00:42,825 --> 00:00:46,524 terroristic threats, or battery. 9 00:00:46,568 --> 00:00:47,743 Sit down. 10 00:00:50,006 --> 00:00:51,834 The judge is gonna tell you 11 00:00:51,877 --> 00:00:55,316 that if the state fails to prove their case, 12 00:00:55,359 --> 00:00:56,578 it is your duty; 13 00:00:56,621 --> 00:00:59,494 you must acquit. 14 00:01:00,756 --> 00:01:02,801 That's the beauty of this system. 15 00:01:02,845 --> 00:01:07,545 It's set up to give people the presumption of innocence, 16 00:01:07,589 --> 00:01:11,723 to give them an opportunity to not just be heard 17 00:01:11,767 --> 00:01:14,030 but hold the state accountable. 18 00:01:14,074 --> 00:01:17,686 You want to take my liberty, you got to do it right, 19 00:01:17,729 --> 00:01:19,731 and if you don't, acquit. 20 00:01:19,775 --> 00:01:23,996 The fifth amendment to the united states constitution 21 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,521 guarantees it. 22 00:01:26,564 --> 00:01:29,524 As I've made my objections throughout this trial, 23 00:01:29,567 --> 00:01:34,224 it's to make sure that this kid gets a fair trial. 24 00:01:34,268 --> 00:01:37,271 It's not a big case, is what they say. 25 00:01:37,314 --> 00:01:40,839 They are saying that they have-- they have the gall to say 26 00:01:40,883 --> 00:01:43,755 that this is not a big case. 27 00:01:43,799 --> 00:01:46,584 There are huge consequences. 28 00:01:46,628 --> 00:01:50,153 This boy will become a convicted felon. 29 00:01:50,197 --> 00:01:51,981 That's the reality of it. 30 00:01:52,024 --> 00:01:55,724 That's what this case represents. 31 00:01:55,767 --> 00:01:57,291 Thank you. 32 00:02:05,908 --> 00:02:07,170 ♪ 33 00:02:33,849 --> 00:02:35,329 - I'm scared man - I know it 34 00:02:35,372 --> 00:02:37,505 - keep your head up. Don't look down. 35 00:02:37,548 --> 00:02:39,115 - it's almost over 36 00:02:47,471 --> 00:02:50,387 - I've been advised that you've reached a verdict in the case. 37 00:02:50,431 --> 00:02:51,997 - yes, ma'am. 38 00:02:52,041 --> 00:02:54,609 - madam clerk, if you'll please publish the verdict. 39 00:02:54,652 --> 00:02:56,176 - yes, ma'am. 40 00:02:59,179 --> 00:03:01,224 In the superior court of hall county, 41 00:03:01,268 --> 00:03:05,315 state of georgia versus jacquiese m'shawn whelchel, 42 00:03:05,359 --> 00:03:08,840 we, the jury, find the defendant not guilty 43 00:03:08,884 --> 00:03:12,279 this second day of november 2011, 44 00:03:12,322 --> 00:03:15,456 count one, jury foreperson. 45 00:03:25,553 --> 00:03:27,729 - my goal is to fill this wall up, 46 00:03:27,772 --> 00:03:29,252 and then once I fill this wall up, 47 00:03:29,296 --> 00:03:30,384 I don't know what I'm gonna do. 48 00:03:32,473 --> 00:03:33,909 Hopefully, like, my whole office 49 00:03:33,952 --> 00:03:35,954 will just be covered in acquittals. 50 00:03:38,653 --> 00:03:40,655 I decided, since the wins go on the wall, 51 00:03:40,698 --> 00:03:42,309 the losses have to go somewhere, 52 00:03:42,352 --> 00:03:43,919 and I'ma tattoo-- 53 00:03:43,962 --> 00:03:45,747 uh, I don't have any tattoos, 54 00:03:45,790 --> 00:03:47,270 so I'm gonna get the last name of every case I've lost 55 00:03:47,314 --> 00:03:49,185 tattooed on my back. 56 00:03:49,229 --> 00:03:51,274 Right now it's only five, and hopefully it won't get-- 57 00:03:51,318 --> 00:03:53,145 hopefully I won't fill my back up. 58 00:03:53,189 --> 00:03:54,756 That's the goal. 59 00:03:54,799 --> 00:03:56,410 But since the wins go on the wall, 60 00:03:56,453 --> 00:03:58,325 I decided the losses have to go somewhere, 61 00:03:58,368 --> 00:03:59,674 and they'll go on my back, 62 00:03:59,717 --> 00:04:02,154 'cause they're gonna be with me forever. 63 00:04:03,591 --> 00:04:06,289 - when you work as a public defender, 64 00:04:06,333 --> 00:04:07,421 you say to somebody, 65 00:04:07,464 --> 00:04:09,161 "oh, I'm a public defender," 66 00:04:09,205 --> 00:04:11,207 and then they're like, "well, what does that mean?" 67 00:04:11,251 --> 00:04:13,470 "i defend people who are charged with committing crimes," 68 00:04:13,514 --> 00:04:14,776 and then they'll say, 69 00:04:14,819 --> 00:04:17,126 "how can you defend those people?" 70 00:04:17,169 --> 00:04:19,911 I tell them the truth, and the truth is, 71 00:04:19,955 --> 00:04:23,350 it's about the sanctity of human liberty 72 00:04:23,393 --> 00:04:26,266 and the cost of it if you want to take it. 73 00:04:40,541 --> 00:04:41,498 - hi. 74 00:04:41,542 --> 00:04:43,065 - I'm well. How are you? 75 00:04:46,373 --> 00:04:49,027 Trying cases is an adrenaline rush, 76 00:04:49,071 --> 00:04:50,812 and when you win, there's a high. 77 00:04:50,855 --> 00:04:54,598 But that is not the average day of a public defender. 78 00:05:18,143 --> 00:05:19,449 this is great! 79 00:05:21,408 --> 00:05:24,106 A client got approved 80 00:05:24,149 --> 00:05:26,500 for the pretrial diversion program. 81 00:05:28,589 --> 00:05:30,678 I am so excited for him. 82 00:05:30,721 --> 00:05:32,375 Ah, if only we can get him out. 83 00:05:32,419 --> 00:05:35,552 If we can't get him out, it's pointless 84 00:05:35,596 --> 00:05:37,380 if his mom can't buy him out. 85 00:05:39,426 --> 00:05:42,080 Hi, may I speak with miss howard? 86 00:05:42,124 --> 00:05:43,430 Miss howard, how are 87 00:05:43,473 --> 00:05:45,301 This is brandy alexander 88 00:05:45,345 --> 00:05:47,651 over at the public defender's office in clayton county. 89 00:05:47,695 --> 00:05:51,307 I got a letter from the d.a.'s office today 90 00:05:51,351 --> 00:05:53,875 indicating that they have referred him 91 00:05:53,918 --> 00:05:55,572 to the pretrial diversion program. 92 00:05:55,616 --> 00:05:57,052 Are you familiar with that at all? 93 00:05:58,445 --> 00:06:02,274 It will allow him to have his charges dismissed. 94 00:06:02,318 --> 00:06:05,234 Now, in order to get him in the pretrial diversion program, 95 00:06:05,277 --> 00:06:07,410 he's gonna have to get out of jail. 96 00:06:07,454 --> 00:06:10,718 You think you'll be able to do that? 97 00:06:23,121 --> 00:06:27,212 I know it's a lot, miss howard. 98 00:06:27,256 --> 00:06:28,518 I know. 99 00:06:28,562 --> 00:06:32,000 The average person cannot come up with $3,000 100 00:06:32,043 --> 00:06:35,656 in a month or in less than a month. 101 00:06:35,699 --> 00:06:38,180 Is there any amount that you can afford? 102 00:06:45,492 --> 00:06:46,971 Okay. 103 00:06:47,015 --> 00:06:49,191 Your mom has 500. How much do you have? 104 00:06:52,324 --> 00:06:54,109 You don't have anything. 105 00:06:56,067 --> 00:06:57,417 Is his-- 106 00:07:06,513 --> 00:07:08,993 all right. I'll talk to you soon. 107 00:07:09,037 --> 00:07:11,082 Bye-bye. 108 00:07:15,522 --> 00:07:23,181 ♪ 109 00:07:23,225 --> 00:07:25,923 He's gonna have to choose between a trial and a plea. 110 00:07:43,463 --> 00:07:44,551 - being a public defender, 111 00:07:44,594 --> 00:07:46,596 you realize very quickly 112 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:47,771 the reality is, 113 00:07:47,815 --> 00:07:49,686 90% of the people or 95% of the people 114 00:07:49,730 --> 00:07:50,948 who get charged with something 115 00:07:50,992 --> 00:07:54,082 plead guilty to something, right? 116 00:07:54,125 --> 00:07:57,738 Because the system is designed to force them to plead guilty, 117 00:07:57,781 --> 00:08:00,871 and it punishes their failure to comply. 118 00:08:02,090 --> 00:08:03,657 This is the way it really works. 119 00:08:03,700 --> 00:08:05,093 You go to jail. 120 00:08:05,136 --> 00:08:07,182 You're charged with an offense 121 00:08:07,225 --> 00:08:09,663 based upon what a police officer thinks you did. 122 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,014 They set a bond, 123 00:08:13,057 --> 00:08:15,669 and if you're poor and you can't make the bond, 124 00:08:15,712 --> 00:08:17,627 you don't get out. 125 00:08:19,194 --> 00:08:20,543 so you sit 126 00:08:20,587 --> 00:08:22,153 and you sit 127 00:08:22,197 --> 00:08:23,546 and you sit. 128 00:08:23,590 --> 00:08:25,679 You may have lost your house. 129 00:08:25,722 --> 00:08:30,422 Your kids may be needing sustenance. 130 00:08:30,466 --> 00:08:33,817 You may have been taken out of high school-- 131 00:08:33,861 --> 00:08:35,732 all the things that could happen 132 00:08:35,776 --> 00:08:40,128 if you were summarily plucked from your life. 133 00:08:40,171 --> 00:08:45,089 You have so much tremendous pressure to plead guilty. 134 00:08:45,133 --> 00:08:47,875 It's all about lessening the penalty. 135 00:08:47,918 --> 00:08:50,051 That's what we do. 136 00:09:02,367 --> 00:09:05,980 - this is the kingdom. 137 00:09:06,023 --> 00:09:07,677 Um... 138 00:09:07,721 --> 00:09:09,331 These are crime scenes, 139 00:09:09,374 --> 00:09:12,682 aerial depictions of burglaries and robberies 140 00:09:12,726 --> 00:09:13,944 that I've collected. 141 00:09:13,988 --> 00:09:16,556 This guy was charged with, like, 142 00:09:16,599 --> 00:09:19,515 38 counts of burglary, 143 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,605 and it took--it took forever to close the case, 144 00:09:22,649 --> 00:09:25,739 and I just kept the blowups from it. 145 00:09:25,782 --> 00:09:27,654 There's really nothing to see in the house. 146 00:09:27,697 --> 00:09:30,439 It's next door to the office. 147 00:09:30,482 --> 00:09:31,788 That's my favorite thing about it. 148 00:09:31,832 --> 00:09:33,485 It's next door to the office. 149 00:09:35,662 --> 00:09:36,837 All I do is this. 150 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,229 I don't do anything else. 151 00:09:38,273 --> 00:09:40,231 I don't have a wife and kids. 152 00:09:40,275 --> 00:09:42,320 I do this. I do this for a living. 153 00:09:43,844 --> 00:09:45,149 You know, in a given case, 154 00:09:45,193 --> 00:09:46,629 if I don't do all I need to do, 155 00:09:46,673 --> 00:09:49,327 somebody's gonna become a convicted felon, 156 00:09:49,371 --> 00:09:50,590 and they go to prison. 157 00:09:50,633 --> 00:09:53,636 They can't vote. They can't get a job. 158 00:09:53,680 --> 00:09:57,814 Like, I think about that every case. 159 00:10:11,741 --> 00:10:13,090 the job is just emergencies. 160 00:10:13,134 --> 00:10:16,659 Everybody's in an emergency state. 161 00:10:16,703 --> 00:10:20,315 Everybody's in jail 162 00:10:20,358 --> 00:10:22,709 or charged with child molestation 163 00:10:22,752 --> 00:10:24,580 or getting beat up 164 00:10:24,624 --> 00:10:26,060 or something crazy is going on. 165 00:10:26,103 --> 00:10:27,801 It's just--it's just chaos. 166 00:10:52,390 --> 00:10:56,177 - judge, this is case number 2011cr252-c, 167 00:10:56,220 --> 00:10:59,484 the state of georgia versus branden lee mullin. 168 00:11:01,008 --> 00:11:02,357 On the incident date, 169 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,490 the defendant was with cody campbell, 170 00:11:05,534 --> 00:11:08,842 and they discussed ordering a pizza. 171 00:11:08,885 --> 00:11:11,758 They did discuss robbing the pizza man. 172 00:11:11,801 --> 00:11:13,847 Cody campbell made the call, 173 00:11:13,890 --> 00:11:17,241 and the car was approached by mr. mullin, 174 00:11:17,285 --> 00:11:20,027 who put the knife to mr. wrengle's throat 175 00:11:20,070 --> 00:11:25,380 and told him to freeze and to give him the money. 176 00:11:25,423 --> 00:11:28,688 The investigation progressed from there. 177 00:11:40,090 --> 00:11:42,092 - when I get a case, 178 00:11:42,136 --> 00:11:45,269 I'm more like an investigator than a lawyer. 179 00:11:45,313 --> 00:11:48,490 I really consider myself a lot more like matlock 180 00:11:48,533 --> 00:11:50,144 than f. lee bailey. 181 00:11:56,106 --> 00:11:57,847 - uh, just--just a statement. 182 00:11:57,891 --> 00:12:00,110 Yeah, slightly incriminating. 183 00:12:00,154 --> 00:12:02,765 You know, "i was there. I saw this guy jump out. 184 00:12:02,809 --> 00:12:04,854 I didn't know what was going on." 185 00:12:06,813 --> 00:12:07,770 - no. no. 186 00:12:07,814 --> 00:12:09,293 I believe he just happened to be 187 00:12:09,337 --> 00:12:10,904 at the wrong place at the wrong time 188 00:12:10,947 --> 00:12:13,036 hanging with a bunch of dummies. 189 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,560 But it ain't lookin' good. 190 00:12:17,388 --> 00:12:19,129 But, oh, man, it'll break my heart 191 00:12:19,173 --> 00:12:20,740 if this kid gets convicted. 192 00:12:20,783 --> 00:12:23,786 Ten-year mandatory minimum, day for day. 193 00:12:23,830 --> 00:12:25,483 - yeah, 19. 194 00:12:25,527 --> 00:12:28,356 - and our kid is a cute little white guy. 195 00:12:28,399 --> 00:12:31,838 He's gonna have a rough time at the big boy prison, 196 00:12:31,881 --> 00:12:35,406 'cause that's where they're gonna send armed robbers. 197 00:12:35,450 --> 00:12:38,279 He's gonna have a rough time. 198 00:12:38,322 --> 00:12:40,672 He probably won't live to see the ten years. 199 00:12:40,716 --> 00:12:41,804 If he does, when he gets out, 200 00:12:41,848 --> 00:12:43,545 I would hate to see him. 201 00:12:45,895 --> 00:12:47,897 For 96 bucks. 202 00:12:47,941 --> 00:12:50,247 All this shit over $96. 203 00:12:58,821 --> 00:13:06,742 ♪ 204 00:13:26,675 --> 00:13:28,808 - all rise. 205 00:13:35,771 --> 00:13:37,947 - mr. mardell, you were charged with driving 206 00:13:37,991 --> 00:13:40,602 after being declared an habitual violator. 207 00:13:40,645 --> 00:13:43,518 Upton, you were charged with aggravated assault, 208 00:13:43,561 --> 00:13:45,955 with terroristic threats, and battery. 209 00:13:45,999 --> 00:13:47,739 Mr. rawlings, you were charged 210 00:13:47,783 --> 00:13:49,872 with violation of the georgia controlled substances act. 211 00:13:49,916 --> 00:13:53,006 This plea form has a written statement that indicates 212 00:13:53,049 --> 00:13:54,703 that you wish to plead guilty. 213 00:13:54,746 --> 00:13:56,923 How do you wish to plead to these charges? 214 00:13:56,966 --> 00:13:59,012 Not guilty or guilty? - guilty. 215 00:13:59,055 --> 00:14:00,970 - how do you wish to plead to these charges? 216 00:14:01,014 --> 00:14:03,059 Not guilty or guilty? - guilty. 217 00:14:03,103 --> 00:14:04,365 - guilty. 218 00:14:04,408 --> 00:14:06,106 - so is there anything further from the state? 219 00:14:06,149 --> 00:14:07,455 - no, your honor. 220 00:14:07,498 --> 00:14:08,935 - anything further from the defense? 221 00:14:08,978 --> 00:14:11,024 - no, your honor. And that's all I had. 222 00:14:11,067 --> 00:14:13,417 May I be excused? - yes, ma'am. 223 00:14:20,903 --> 00:14:25,038 - these are the new clients that you need to see. 224 00:14:25,081 --> 00:14:27,692 Here's the file that I was just asking about. 225 00:14:27,736 --> 00:14:29,912 - oh. 226 00:14:29,956 --> 00:14:32,610 thanks. okay. 227 00:14:32,654 --> 00:14:34,917 - miss wright, how are you doing? 228 00:14:34,961 --> 00:14:36,353 Um, I talked to the prosecutor. 229 00:14:36,397 --> 00:14:39,748 She'd be willing to go up on the bond, $10,000, 230 00:14:39,791 --> 00:14:41,097 and then give him a curfew. 231 00:14:41,141 --> 00:14:43,230 But I want to make sure that it's not gonna, like, 232 00:14:43,273 --> 00:14:46,537 increase your amount that you have to pay every two weeks 233 00:14:46,581 --> 00:14:49,584 by more than $100. 234 00:14:49,627 --> 00:14:51,368 Okay. 235 00:14:51,412 --> 00:14:54,110 You're welcome. I'll talk to you soon. 236 00:14:54,154 --> 00:14:56,591 She's behind on all of her bills, 237 00:14:56,634 --> 00:14:58,810 and they're about to take her car. 238 00:14:58,854 --> 00:15:01,074 This kid is in high school. 239 00:15:01,117 --> 00:15:02,989 He's so smart, 240 00:15:03,032 --> 00:15:05,948 so incredibly smart. 241 00:15:05,992 --> 00:15:08,646 That's him. 242 00:15:08,690 --> 00:15:09,691 He's 17. 243 00:15:09,734 --> 00:15:13,042 He was arrested for armed robbery. 244 00:15:13,086 --> 00:15:15,915 This is--i can't even believe that they arrested him for it. 245 00:15:15,958 --> 00:15:17,307 I really don't believe it. 246 00:15:17,351 --> 00:15:20,136 And it's a ten-year minimum mandatory sentence. 247 00:15:22,051 --> 00:15:23,966 And win, lose, or draw, 248 00:15:24,010 --> 00:15:25,663 tears will fall, 249 00:15:25,707 --> 00:15:28,188 because this kid is-- 250 00:15:28,231 --> 00:15:30,494 I don't think he's guilty. 251 00:15:30,538 --> 00:15:33,541 I don't. I think he's innocent. 252 00:15:46,336 --> 00:15:48,991 - when they arrested me, 253 00:15:49,035 --> 00:15:50,340 I was scared. 254 00:15:50,384 --> 00:15:52,473 I didn't know what was going on. 255 00:15:54,910 --> 00:15:57,913 - why don't come on in and help me get decorated? 256 00:15:57,957 --> 00:16:01,090 There's some meatloaf and cabbages in the refrigerator. 257 00:16:08,793 --> 00:16:10,360 Throw that trash out. 258 00:16:13,973 --> 00:16:16,976 - it was december 9, 2010. 259 00:16:19,065 --> 00:16:21,937 Me and my family was sitting in the living room watching tv, 260 00:16:21,981 --> 00:16:24,374 cooking, you know, just a normal family night. 261 00:16:26,811 --> 00:16:28,552 All of a sudden, we hear a big knock on the door. 262 00:16:28,596 --> 00:16:30,511 So my mom go to the door and open up. 263 00:16:30,554 --> 00:16:32,643 They say it's the college park police. 264 00:16:32,687 --> 00:16:35,559 - I unlocked the door, twist the knob, 265 00:16:35,603 --> 00:16:39,041 and didn't even get a chance to open the door all the way. 266 00:16:39,085 --> 00:16:40,651 As soon as it cracked-- 267 00:16:40,695 --> 00:16:42,088 I guess they heard me twist the knob-- 268 00:16:42,131 --> 00:16:44,133 they just pushed the door in, 269 00:16:44,177 --> 00:16:45,830 pushed me back, 270 00:16:45,874 --> 00:16:48,703 they spinned me around, pushed me on the floor, 271 00:16:48,746 --> 00:16:51,445 rushed in, pushed my daughter on the floor. 272 00:16:51,488 --> 00:16:55,057 They all had guns and flashlights to all our heads 273 00:16:55,101 --> 00:16:56,276 on the floor. 274 00:16:56,319 --> 00:16:58,408 They rushed in the living room, 275 00:16:58,452 --> 00:17:00,367 yanked my son off the sofa, 276 00:17:00,410 --> 00:17:01,411 throw him on the floor, 277 00:17:01,455 --> 00:17:03,065 put the handcuffs on him, 278 00:17:03,109 --> 00:17:04,849 and just took him outside. 279 00:17:04,893 --> 00:17:09,202 I cried. 280 00:17:09,245 --> 00:17:13,206 It's a unexplainable feeling, situation, 281 00:17:13,249 --> 00:17:17,036 for someone to come in to your home, 282 00:17:17,079 --> 00:17:19,429 whether it's been the police or whomever, 283 00:17:19,473 --> 00:17:21,736 and take your child away. 284 00:17:23,390 --> 00:17:26,523 Demontes was a very good baby. 285 00:17:28,221 --> 00:17:30,614 This is when he became kind of challenging. 286 00:17:30,658 --> 00:17:34,096 He would take his toys apart and put 'em back together, 287 00:17:34,140 --> 00:17:37,012 and I bought him one of those razor motorcycles. 288 00:17:37,056 --> 00:17:38,405 You would never believe it. 289 00:17:38,448 --> 00:17:41,060 He took that thing apart and re-rigged it up 290 00:17:41,103 --> 00:17:43,323 to run faster. 291 00:17:43,366 --> 00:17:45,281 - when they arrested me, I was 16. 292 00:17:45,325 --> 00:17:48,023 Then they--they held me at a juvenile detention center 293 00:17:48,067 --> 00:17:49,590 until I turned 17, 294 00:17:49,633 --> 00:17:51,113 and then they took me to the county, 295 00:17:51,157 --> 00:17:52,593 which is adult jail. 296 00:17:52,636 --> 00:17:54,986 I was scared, but I knew I couldn't-- 297 00:17:55,030 --> 00:17:56,510 I couldn't really let it get to me, 298 00:17:56,553 --> 00:17:58,033 'cause I knew I had to be strong, 299 00:17:58,077 --> 00:17:59,252 'cause at the time, 300 00:17:59,295 --> 00:18:00,383 I was gonna be there to be there, 301 00:18:00,427 --> 00:18:02,516 so I couldn't really stress myself. 302 00:18:02,559 --> 00:18:04,257 It'd make the situation worse. 303 00:18:04,300 --> 00:18:06,128 I already knew I couldn't afford a lawyer, 304 00:18:06,172 --> 00:18:08,217 so I was expecting a public defender. 305 00:18:08,261 --> 00:18:10,219 I was just praying on a good one, 306 00:18:10,263 --> 00:18:12,308 and god answered my prayer. 307 00:18:12,352 --> 00:18:14,963 - armed robbery is a maximum life penalty. 308 00:18:15,006 --> 00:18:16,791 A judge could sentence you to life for it. 309 00:18:16,834 --> 00:18:19,010 You understand what that means? - yeah. 310 00:18:19,054 --> 00:18:23,102 - it's hard to understand a life sentence when you're 17. 311 00:18:23,145 --> 00:18:26,496 But those are things that you have to think about. 312 00:18:28,846 --> 00:18:30,152 I know a man. 313 00:18:30,196 --> 00:18:32,546 He was sentenced to life in prison 314 00:18:32,589 --> 00:18:35,331 for a crime he did not commit. 315 00:18:35,375 --> 00:18:36,463 You have to think about that. 316 00:18:36,506 --> 00:18:38,160 I know that you're young, 317 00:18:38,204 --> 00:18:40,597 and it's easy to want to run the streets with your friends 318 00:18:40,641 --> 00:18:41,859 and do what you see on tv 319 00:18:41,903 --> 00:18:44,558 and get tattoos and so on and so forth. 320 00:18:44,601 --> 00:18:46,342 That's real cool, and it's great, 321 00:18:46,386 --> 00:18:48,866 and it's wonderful while you're 16, 17 years old. 322 00:18:48,910 --> 00:18:50,868 But when you're 25, who's gonna hire you 323 00:18:50,912 --> 00:18:53,523 with tats on your neck and all down your hand? 324 00:18:55,090 --> 00:18:56,222 That make sense? - yeah. 325 00:19:02,402 --> 00:19:10,410 ♪ 326 00:19:38,264 --> 00:19:40,353 - so welcome back to birmingham. 327 00:19:46,054 --> 00:19:47,403 all right. 328 00:19:47,447 --> 00:19:50,319 I--i don't know if everyone knows, 329 00:19:50,363 --> 00:19:53,366 but--but, um, just this month 330 00:19:53,409 --> 00:19:56,107 we had three more lawyers leave their offices, 331 00:19:56,151 --> 00:19:59,633 three more s.p.d.t.c. lawyers leave their offices. 332 00:19:59,676 --> 00:20:01,983 It's not a surprise, right? 333 00:20:02,026 --> 00:20:04,377 I mean, you guys are doing the most difficult work 334 00:20:04,420 --> 00:20:06,422 in the most difficult places. 335 00:20:06,466 --> 00:20:08,207 But as I've talked to some of you 336 00:20:08,250 --> 00:20:11,297 who haven't left but maybe have been considering it, 337 00:20:11,340 --> 00:20:14,387 I know one issue is certainly money. 338 00:20:14,430 --> 00:20:17,216 But another issue is 339 00:20:17,259 --> 00:20:19,435 that it's just too hard. 340 00:20:19,479 --> 00:20:22,482 "i feel defeated." 341 00:20:22,525 --> 00:20:25,615 I think that that's what this community is about. 342 00:20:27,748 --> 00:20:30,881 - I closed over 500 felonies last year, 343 00:20:30,925 --> 00:20:36,104 and I have 165 pending cases right now that are all felonies, 344 00:20:36,147 --> 00:20:39,368 and i--i cannot be an effective attorney 345 00:20:39,412 --> 00:20:40,848 at those numbers. 346 00:20:40,891 --> 00:20:43,546 - without this group, I would've quit a long time ago, 347 00:20:43,590 --> 00:20:45,592 because, as you said, it's a hard job, 348 00:20:45,635 --> 00:20:47,898 and when you've got nobody that's helping you, 349 00:20:47,942 --> 00:20:50,640 and when you've got everybody telling you, 350 00:20:50,684 --> 00:20:52,773 you know, "you work too much. You should"-- 351 00:20:52,816 --> 00:20:54,818 that are actually ordering me out the door 352 00:20:54,862 --> 00:20:58,082 and ordering me not to work the hours that I work. 353 00:20:58,126 --> 00:20:59,823 - the summer after I graduated, 354 00:20:59,867 --> 00:21:02,348 a young lady by the name of alice stamps was like, 355 00:21:02,391 --> 00:21:03,827 "june, you've got to come work 356 00:21:03,871 --> 00:21:06,221 for the hinds county public defender's office." 357 00:21:06,265 --> 00:21:07,396 I was like, "no. 358 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:08,571 "y'all got to pay me. 359 00:21:08,615 --> 00:21:10,312 "i got six figures in educational debt. 360 00:21:10,356 --> 00:21:11,879 What are you say"-- 361 00:21:11,922 --> 00:21:13,533 "june, all of that's gonna work out, baby. 362 00:21:13,576 --> 00:21:15,230 Don't even trip on it." 363 00:21:17,232 --> 00:21:18,407 - there was a case. 364 00:21:18,451 --> 00:21:20,496 It was a sex case, 365 00:21:20,540 --> 00:21:24,500 and the client was accused of, like, 366 00:21:24,544 --> 00:21:27,503 raping his 12-year-old daughter. 367 00:21:27,547 --> 00:21:29,113 So I go to talk to him, 368 00:21:29,157 --> 00:21:31,638 and I'm expecting him to tell me 369 00:21:31,681 --> 00:21:34,075 why he didn't do it and, you know, 370 00:21:34,118 --> 00:21:37,165 help me to establish a defense for him, 371 00:21:37,208 --> 00:21:41,256 and he starts to tell me 372 00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:44,215 how he raped his daughter, 373 00:21:44,259 --> 00:21:46,479 and he's proud of it. 374 00:21:46,522 --> 00:21:49,351 And I literally had to, like, 375 00:21:49,395 --> 00:21:51,353 stop myself from vomiting. 376 00:21:51,397 --> 00:21:54,574 Something clicked in me that said, 377 00:21:54,617 --> 00:21:57,751 "some people are just bad people. 378 00:21:57,794 --> 00:22:01,711 Some people just do evil things." 379 00:22:01,755 --> 00:22:06,368 That, to me, is not what a public defender should-- 380 00:22:06,412 --> 00:22:08,370 like, I don't feel like I should think those things 381 00:22:08,414 --> 00:22:12,548 about my clients. 382 00:22:12,592 --> 00:22:14,550 And I feel like I'm doing them an injustice 383 00:22:14,594 --> 00:22:17,727 because I think those things about a lot of them. 384 00:22:17,771 --> 00:22:20,382 And I feel like people like travis 385 00:22:20,426 --> 00:22:23,298 who I respect very, very highly-- 386 00:22:23,342 --> 00:22:24,647 I look up to travis-- 387 00:22:24,691 --> 00:22:27,171 and I feel like I'm letting travis down 388 00:22:27,215 --> 00:22:30,784 in being this person that I've become. 389 00:22:33,787 --> 00:22:35,397 Real talk. You can't-- 390 00:22:35,441 --> 00:22:39,401 you can't really look for the same thing 391 00:22:39,445 --> 00:22:40,881 to motivate you per client. 392 00:22:40,924 --> 00:22:42,883 Like, some people are just-- 393 00:22:42,926 --> 00:22:46,539 everybody has--every case has a redeeming quality to it-- 394 00:22:46,582 --> 00:22:48,497 not every person necessarily. 395 00:22:48,541 --> 00:22:51,892 Don't necessarily focus on the folks sometimes, you know? 396 00:22:51,935 --> 00:22:53,676 Like, it would make you feel good to, like, 397 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,462 do right for people when they right. 398 00:22:56,505 --> 00:23:00,030 But, shit, I want to do right for people when they wrong too. 399 00:23:00,074 --> 00:23:04,731 - what I've seen from doing it for 15, 16 years is, 400 00:23:04,774 --> 00:23:07,951 the ones who last at this, 401 00:23:07,995 --> 00:23:09,736 they do what travis is talking about. 402 00:23:09,779 --> 00:23:12,608 Sometimes it's just good to fight the system 403 00:23:12,652 --> 00:23:16,438 and just be a warrior and just go to war, 404 00:23:16,482 --> 00:23:18,440 and they find that balance 405 00:23:18,484 --> 00:23:20,050 that helps them get through the times 406 00:23:20,094 --> 00:23:22,444 when one of those isn't working for 'em. 407 00:23:22,488 --> 00:23:25,404 - when you go back to your offices, 408 00:23:25,447 --> 00:23:27,623 you will forget what you feel like right now, 409 00:23:27,667 --> 00:23:28,842 and it's understandable, 410 00:23:28,885 --> 00:23:30,931 'cause you're going back to hell. 411 00:23:30,974 --> 00:23:33,150 Some of you are going to hell, right? 412 00:23:33,194 --> 00:23:35,457 And you're gonna feel like you just can't make it, 413 00:23:35,501 --> 00:23:37,546 and work is too hard. 414 00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:40,593 You all know people who chose 415 00:23:40,636 --> 00:23:43,596 to go to firms to make a lot of money. 416 00:23:43,639 --> 00:23:45,815 They're gonna drive cars nicer than you, 417 00:23:45,859 --> 00:23:48,731 live in houses nicer than you. 418 00:23:48,775 --> 00:23:52,343 But they're not gonna make a difference. 419 00:23:52,387 --> 00:23:54,302 Let me say this to you, though. 420 00:23:54,345 --> 00:23:56,913 This will be a battle that will be won, 421 00:23:56,957 --> 00:23:59,481 and your children will look back on this, 422 00:23:59,525 --> 00:24:03,616 this struggle to save people from this injust, cruel, 423 00:24:03,659 --> 00:24:06,619 inhumane criminal justice system, 424 00:24:06,662 --> 00:24:09,056 and you all will be the foot soldiers. 425 00:24:09,099 --> 00:24:11,928 You will be the ones who brought that about, 426 00:24:11,972 --> 00:24:13,626 because that civil rights movement, 427 00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:15,715 it was young people jumping on buses 428 00:24:15,758 --> 00:24:18,152 from the south and from all over the country. 429 00:24:18,195 --> 00:24:22,330 And that's what this is, and that's what you guys are. 430 00:24:27,553 --> 00:24:34,560 ♪ 431 00:24:34,603 --> 00:24:36,823 - we live, eat, breathe among 432 00:24:36,866 --> 00:24:41,784 alleged criminals, ex-offenders every day. 433 00:24:43,917 --> 00:24:46,049 I'm not living in fear. 434 00:24:46,093 --> 00:24:48,312 I don't feel threatened by my clients. 435 00:24:48,356 --> 00:24:50,619 It's an honor for me to represent my clients. 436 00:24:51,577 --> 00:24:54,405 I have 150 clients, 437 00:24:54,449 --> 00:24:56,320 and they are all counting on me 438 00:24:56,364 --> 00:24:58,061 to be there for them. 439 00:24:59,889 --> 00:25:02,283 okay. 440 00:25:02,326 --> 00:25:04,720 We'll start with the-- with the not indicted. 441 00:25:04,764 --> 00:25:06,853 It's a boatload of these. 442 00:25:06,896 --> 00:25:10,247 These guys I've had to do preliminary hearings for. 443 00:25:10,291 --> 00:25:14,513 These are some of my indicted cases here. 444 00:25:14,556 --> 00:25:15,688 And these cases, 445 00:25:15,731 --> 00:25:17,167 these are from my guys 446 00:25:17,211 --> 00:25:20,693 who are in, um, 447 00:25:20,736 --> 00:25:21,781 like, drug court. 448 00:25:21,824 --> 00:25:23,086 But these are the three 449 00:25:23,130 --> 00:25:25,045 that I deal with on a daily basis. 450 00:25:25,088 --> 00:25:28,570 Of course, now, super hands-on cases 451 00:25:28,614 --> 00:25:31,878 are these and those. 452 00:25:38,537 --> 00:25:40,277 In my experience-- 453 00:25:40,321 --> 00:25:44,151 take, for example, statutory rape cases-- 454 00:25:44,194 --> 00:25:46,414 my clients just don't seem to know 455 00:25:46,457 --> 00:25:50,157 that consent is not an essential element. 456 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,553 You have an 18-year-old with a 14-year-old. 457 00:25:54,596 --> 00:25:58,992 You know, she looks very much like a woman, 458 00:25:59,035 --> 00:26:03,736 um, and it may not cross the young man's mind that, 459 00:26:03,779 --> 00:26:08,175 you know, she may be playin' with dolls at home. 460 00:26:08,218 --> 00:26:10,177 Um, in those instances, I'm like, 461 00:26:10,220 --> 00:26:14,790 "okay, he was just ignorant of, you know, the law perhaps." 462 00:26:14,834 --> 00:26:18,751 But for those instances where I've had a client who was drunk, 463 00:26:18,794 --> 00:26:22,319 and he got his stepdaughter pregnant, 464 00:26:22,363 --> 00:26:24,626 I was just like, 465 00:26:24,670 --> 00:26:26,802 "that is complete insanity. 466 00:26:26,846 --> 00:26:28,674 That is complete and utter insanity." 467 00:26:28,717 --> 00:26:31,633 But I have to do my job, 468 00:26:31,677 --> 00:26:34,244 and the state, they need to do their job. 469 00:26:38,814 --> 00:26:46,735 ♪ 470 00:26:48,215 --> 00:26:51,435 - branden is a typical 20-year-old. 471 00:26:51,479 --> 00:26:56,397 He can be endearing. 472 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:58,399 He can be infuriating. 473 00:26:58,442 --> 00:27:00,488 He can be hardheaded, 474 00:27:00,531 --> 00:27:02,621 very charismatic, 475 00:27:02,664 --> 00:27:04,361 and very sweet. 476 00:27:05,798 --> 00:27:08,583 We met this young guy who, 477 00:27:08,627 --> 00:27:09,715 at that point in time, 478 00:27:09,758 --> 00:27:13,153 was homeless, had no job, 479 00:27:13,196 --> 00:27:14,241 no family. 480 00:27:14,284 --> 00:27:16,243 I hired him to do some work for me 481 00:27:16,286 --> 00:27:18,027 basically 'cause I have a bad back, 482 00:27:18,071 --> 00:27:20,160 and as we got to know him 483 00:27:20,203 --> 00:27:22,728 over the course of working with him, 484 00:27:22,771 --> 00:27:27,210 we decided to offer him a place to live. 485 00:27:27,254 --> 00:27:29,212 - we developed a family unit. 486 00:27:29,256 --> 00:27:32,476 It's not by any stretch of the imagination 487 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,478 ward and june cleaver, 488 00:27:34,522 --> 00:27:37,786 but for us, it works. 489 00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:39,614 - I mean, my dads are pretty cool. 490 00:27:39,658 --> 00:27:41,660 I mean, they both love me. 491 00:27:41,703 --> 00:27:43,487 I mean, I really don't know what I would've done 492 00:27:43,531 --> 00:27:46,752 without their help with all this stuff. 493 00:27:46,795 --> 00:27:50,190 I never really thought I would have anyone like that. 494 00:27:50,233 --> 00:27:53,584 My mom left me when I was 12. 495 00:27:53,628 --> 00:27:56,109 I haven't seen her since. 496 00:27:56,152 --> 00:27:58,459 I mean, since I was 12 years old, 497 00:27:58,502 --> 00:28:02,506 I was pretty much in foster homes and stuff like that, 498 00:28:02,550 --> 00:28:03,769 in group homes. 499 00:28:03,812 --> 00:28:05,858 This is, like, the most stabile environment 500 00:28:05,901 --> 00:28:06,902 I've been in, 501 00:28:06,946 --> 00:28:08,121 living with them. 502 00:28:10,819 --> 00:28:12,299 I like travis a lot. 503 00:28:12,342 --> 00:28:16,085 Compared to any other lawyer, like, he's different. 504 00:28:16,129 --> 00:28:18,827 You know, he actually seems like he cares. 505 00:28:29,795 --> 00:28:30,752 - this is tough work. 506 00:28:30,796 --> 00:28:32,972 This is grueling work. 507 00:28:37,454 --> 00:28:42,764 You're dealing with people who society has forgot about, 508 00:28:42,808 --> 00:28:44,984 society don't give a shit about. 509 00:28:46,812 --> 00:28:49,249 But that's something that I can relate to. 510 00:28:52,948 --> 00:28:55,821 I was born in georgia. 511 00:28:55,864 --> 00:28:56,952 My mother was-- 512 00:28:56,996 --> 00:29:01,652 had escaped from custody here in georgia, 513 00:29:01,696 --> 00:29:05,787 and she took on an alias name 514 00:29:05,831 --> 00:29:08,311 in order to avoid detection, 515 00:29:08,355 --> 00:29:10,357 and her alias name-- the last name was williams. 516 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,274 That was--one of her aliases was jackie williams. 517 00:29:14,317 --> 00:29:17,973 And so she gave birth to a child under that alias name. 518 00:29:18,017 --> 00:29:18,974 And that child was me. 519 00:29:21,672 --> 00:29:24,371 She fled to florida, 520 00:29:24,414 --> 00:29:27,983 and she just dropped me off with my grandmother 521 00:29:28,027 --> 00:29:31,639 and took off. 522 00:29:31,682 --> 00:29:33,946 And so I don't know who my father is. 523 00:29:37,253 --> 00:29:45,174 ♪ 524 00:29:53,879 --> 00:29:56,011 - I collapsed in court last week. 525 00:29:59,754 --> 00:30:01,103 My knees kind of gave out, 526 00:30:01,147 --> 00:30:03,410 and the prosecutor had to catch me. 527 00:30:06,935 --> 00:30:08,110 I was so stressed. 528 00:30:08,154 --> 00:30:09,677 I was having anxiety attacks 529 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,027 and getting really upset. 530 00:30:12,071 --> 00:30:14,073 My hair was falling out. 531 00:30:14,116 --> 00:30:16,727 So the doctor suggested that I take a week off. 532 00:30:19,382 --> 00:30:22,995 I had a client charged with murder 533 00:30:23,038 --> 00:30:26,650 who apparently was planning my murder. 534 00:30:29,262 --> 00:30:31,525 I had a couple of other clients warn me 535 00:30:31,568 --> 00:30:34,136 that he had been bragging in the jail 536 00:30:34,180 --> 00:30:39,228 that he was gonna end my life if we lost at his trial, 537 00:30:39,272 --> 00:30:41,709 that he had a "plan" 538 00:30:41,752 --> 00:30:43,189 on how he was gonna do this 539 00:30:43,232 --> 00:30:45,234 and that he had nothing to lose 540 00:30:45,278 --> 00:30:47,323 because if he was convicted of murder, 541 00:30:47,367 --> 00:30:49,630 you know, he was gonna get life without parole. 542 00:30:49,673 --> 00:30:52,894 So from what I was told, let's do it big. 543 00:30:52,938 --> 00:30:57,638 Take out a lawyer in open court. 544 00:30:57,681 --> 00:31:00,510 Go down in history. 545 00:31:00,554 --> 00:31:05,820 I worked my ass off for this client. 546 00:31:05,864 --> 00:31:08,040 I went to the jail every time he called 547 00:31:08,083 --> 00:31:10,216 and said he needed somebody to come and see him. 548 00:31:10,259 --> 00:31:12,044 He wanted to talk to me, but I knew he didn't have 549 00:31:12,087 --> 00:31:15,047 anything to tell me that was new or helpful. 550 00:31:15,090 --> 00:31:16,918 That he just wanted to see somebody's face. 551 00:31:16,962 --> 00:31:19,921 That was me. I was going out there. 552 00:31:19,965 --> 00:31:22,402 I was the person staying up at night 553 00:31:22,445 --> 00:31:28,408 because I didn't know what was gonna happen to him 554 00:31:28,451 --> 00:31:31,193 or if I was even good enough. 555 00:31:31,237 --> 00:31:34,370 That was me, and you're planning my murder? 556 00:31:38,766 --> 00:31:39,941 It's a part of the job. 557 00:31:41,987 --> 00:31:44,728 that's what I'm told. 558 00:31:44,772 --> 00:31:46,078 I don't think it is. 559 00:31:46,121 --> 00:31:48,602 I don't think it's part of the job. 560 00:31:57,132 --> 00:31:58,960 - yes. 561 00:32:04,052 --> 00:32:07,099 - I remember the speech 562 00:32:07,142 --> 00:32:10,058 at, like--i guess it was maybe the last day 563 00:32:10,102 --> 00:32:13,105 where you said, "some of you are going back to hell." 564 00:32:15,890 --> 00:32:17,283 because it's true. 565 00:32:17,326 --> 00:32:19,981 I'm serious. It's so true. it's so-- 566 00:32:20,025 --> 00:32:21,983 - what would it take to have someone like you around 567 00:32:22,027 --> 00:32:23,811 in ten years? 568 00:32:23,854 --> 00:32:26,205 - you don't want somebody like me around in ten years. 569 00:32:26,248 --> 00:32:28,990 - I'm just very jaded now. 570 00:32:29,034 --> 00:32:30,992 'cause now I'm like, I can't save everybody, 571 00:32:31,036 --> 00:32:34,082 and then I see these clients coming back and back and back, 572 00:32:34,126 --> 00:32:38,086 and I want to be able to tell the story 573 00:32:38,130 --> 00:32:40,654 about the client that was saved 574 00:32:40,697 --> 00:32:43,700 and how the police, like, tricked him. 575 00:32:43,744 --> 00:32:48,009 But a lot of the cases are not that. 576 00:32:48,053 --> 00:32:50,446 Most of 'em are not that. 577 00:32:50,490 --> 00:32:52,187 - but, brandy, you can't-- 578 00:32:52,231 --> 00:32:56,626 I mean, if you define success as victory in every case, 579 00:32:56,670 --> 00:32:58,715 right, where in fact the evidence is overwhelming, 580 00:32:58,759 --> 00:33:00,979 it doesn't matter where you practice. 581 00:33:01,022 --> 00:33:02,023 You're gonna feel defeated. 582 00:33:02,067 --> 00:33:05,113 The fact that you recognize 583 00:33:05,157 --> 00:33:07,855 that this is a job that causes you 584 00:33:07,898 --> 00:33:12,033 to sort of lose your humanity and your sensitivity, 585 00:33:12,077 --> 00:33:13,469 the fact that you recognize that 586 00:33:13,513 --> 00:33:15,645 means you still have the ability 587 00:33:15,689 --> 00:33:19,258 to sort of correct it and push forward. 588 00:33:19,301 --> 00:33:21,477 Right, like, you come home, and you're like-- 589 00:33:21,521 --> 00:33:23,044 in the heat of the moment, 590 00:33:23,088 --> 00:33:24,437 "i am insensitive," 591 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,265 and you come home, and you feel badly about that. 592 00:33:26,308 --> 00:33:27,266 - I do. I feel like-- 593 00:33:27,309 --> 00:33:29,181 - which sets you apart. 594 00:33:29,224 --> 00:33:30,356 That sets you apart 595 00:33:30,399 --> 00:33:32,271 from so many people who do this work. 596 00:33:32,314 --> 00:33:33,881 All right, that is why we would want 597 00:33:33,924 --> 00:33:36,014 someone like you around in ten years. 598 00:33:36,057 --> 00:33:37,885 But look, right? 599 00:33:37,928 --> 00:33:40,453 I mean, if you're trying to rescue people from hell, 600 00:33:40,496 --> 00:33:42,150 you do have to go to hell to do it, right? 601 00:33:42,194 --> 00:33:43,543 - yeah. 602 00:33:43,586 --> 00:33:46,502 - and if you don't, you won't rescue anyone. 603 00:33:53,422 --> 00:33:55,076 - you're wearing your hat. 604 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:56,121 - yep. 605 00:33:56,164 --> 00:33:57,905 You know, I wrote all the appeals 606 00:33:57,948 --> 00:34:00,560 that I wrote that I won, I wrote wearing this hat. 607 00:34:00,603 --> 00:34:02,692 Not this hat, but a marlins hat. 608 00:34:04,259 --> 00:34:06,087 - yeah. 609 00:34:06,131 --> 00:34:10,483 - rachel is a girl I met a few months ago, 610 00:34:10,526 --> 00:34:14,095 and we've been dating for most of that time period. 611 00:34:17,490 --> 00:34:19,187 - how much longer are you gonna be? 612 00:34:19,231 --> 00:34:21,102 - just a few more minutes. 613 00:34:23,365 --> 00:34:27,239 Obviously, my work habits 614 00:34:27,282 --> 00:34:32,157 are not helpful to a relationship. 615 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,204 So we're trying to come up with certain rules for us to follow, 616 00:34:36,248 --> 00:34:38,076 a contract of sorts 617 00:34:38,119 --> 00:34:39,207 that I'm gonna draw up 618 00:34:39,251 --> 00:34:40,513 and we're both gonna sign. 619 00:34:40,556 --> 00:34:43,516 - do you want me to really draw up a contract? 620 00:34:43,559 --> 00:34:45,300 - yeah, we really are gonna draw one up. 621 00:34:45,344 --> 00:34:46,693 Maybe tonight. 622 00:34:46,736 --> 00:34:48,651 We need to actually put this in writing, 623 00:34:48,695 --> 00:34:51,306 because I've got an issue with the contract. 624 00:34:51,350 --> 00:34:52,351 - this is the thing. 625 00:34:52,394 --> 00:34:54,570 We have a contract that on nights 626 00:34:54,614 --> 00:34:57,269 when I don't have my son, 627 00:34:57,312 --> 00:35:00,272 he's supposed to leave the office when I do. 628 00:35:00,315 --> 00:35:03,101 And as you can see, I'm off of work, 629 00:35:03,144 --> 00:35:05,538 and he's still going for it. 630 00:35:05,581 --> 00:35:07,279 - no, no, I'm down with that. 631 00:35:07,322 --> 00:35:08,454 I'm not saying I'm against that. 632 00:35:08,497 --> 00:35:09,890 - but you're just-- you just told me 633 00:35:09,933 --> 00:35:11,196 you needed to make an amendment. 634 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,546 - no, I mean--i do. I do. 635 00:35:13,589 --> 00:35:15,243 And that's the real issue. 636 00:35:15,287 --> 00:35:17,332 I need to make an amendment. 637 00:35:17,376 --> 00:35:20,335 - I'm all ears. 638 00:35:22,946 --> 00:35:25,384 - why don't I just come back later? 639 00:35:25,427 --> 00:35:28,387 Let me go home and get some stuff done, and can i-- 640 00:35:28,430 --> 00:35:30,215 I'll just come back later. Is that good? 641 00:35:30,258 --> 00:35:32,260 - okay. 642 00:35:32,304 --> 00:35:33,479 - that works. 643 00:35:36,786 --> 00:35:44,707 ♪ 644 00:35:55,718 --> 00:35:58,808 - thank you, everyone, for coming. 645 00:35:58,852 --> 00:36:00,506 I want to thank 646 00:36:00,549 --> 00:36:03,509 certainly congressman lewis 647 00:36:03,552 --> 00:36:06,207 who organized freedom summer. 648 00:36:06,251 --> 00:36:08,209 I thought about a quote that says, 649 00:36:08,253 --> 00:36:10,472 "our lives are not our own. 650 00:36:10,516 --> 00:36:13,867 They belong to those who need us desperately." 651 00:36:13,910 --> 00:36:17,653 Congressman lewis, you've lived that quote. 652 00:36:17,697 --> 00:36:20,787 - I'm delighted to be here. 653 00:36:20,830 --> 00:36:22,571 You know, I got arrested a few times. 654 00:36:22,615 --> 00:36:25,400 I went to jail 40 time 655 00:36:25,444 --> 00:36:27,228 during the '60s. 656 00:36:27,272 --> 00:36:29,578 And it was lawyers, 657 00:36:29,622 --> 00:36:34,931 unbelievably courageous men and women of the bar 658 00:36:34,975 --> 00:36:36,542 that came to my rescue. 659 00:36:37,891 --> 00:36:40,372 They defended us. 660 00:36:40,415 --> 00:36:43,026 They filed briefs. 661 00:36:43,070 --> 00:36:45,115 And if it hadn't been for the lawyers 662 00:36:45,159 --> 00:36:46,813 during that period, 663 00:36:46,856 --> 00:36:50,643 I don't know where we will be as a nation and as a people. 664 00:36:50,686 --> 00:36:54,951 So I want to thank this wonderful organization 665 00:36:54,995 --> 00:36:56,866 for getting in the way, 666 00:36:56,910 --> 00:37:01,262 for defending those that have been left out and left behind. 667 00:37:01,306 --> 00:37:03,090 Thank you. 668 00:37:06,311 --> 00:37:08,269 - life in clayton county-- 669 00:37:08,313 --> 00:37:10,880 I dare not speak for all of the public defenders in georgia-- 670 00:37:10,924 --> 00:37:13,448 but life in clayton county, georgia, 671 00:37:13,492 --> 00:37:14,797 is a different beast. 672 00:37:14,841 --> 00:37:17,539 The average bond in clayton county 673 00:37:17,583 --> 00:37:19,280 on a theft by shoplifting 674 00:37:19,324 --> 00:37:21,064 is $40,000. 675 00:37:21,108 --> 00:37:23,023 - wow. 676 00:37:23,066 --> 00:37:26,766 - my clients cannot afford that bond. 677 00:37:26,809 --> 00:37:30,117 So they sit for four to eight months 678 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,162 waiting to be indicted. 679 00:37:32,206 --> 00:37:35,644 I've wanted to leave so many times. 680 00:37:35,688 --> 00:37:37,864 I think I've lost count at this point. 681 00:37:37,907 --> 00:37:40,562 And I know lots of other people 682 00:37:40,606 --> 00:37:42,260 who have wanted to leave as well. 683 00:37:42,303 --> 00:37:47,439 It's only s.p.d.t.c., 684 00:37:47,482 --> 00:37:50,572 and particularly jonathan rapping, 685 00:37:50,616 --> 00:37:53,009 that keep me here. 686 00:37:53,053 --> 00:37:55,403 So I hope that I've given you all 687 00:37:55,447 --> 00:37:59,364 a small glimpse of my world in clayton county. 688 00:37:59,407 --> 00:38:02,410 It is not fun at all. 689 00:38:02,454 --> 00:38:06,153 But it's a necessary evil. 690 00:38:06,196 --> 00:38:07,372 Thanks. 691 00:38:10,679 --> 00:38:13,378 speaking in front of the congressman, 692 00:38:13,421 --> 00:38:15,162 that was really surreal. 693 00:38:15,205 --> 00:38:18,339 It won't hit me until, like, two months from now. 694 00:38:18,383 --> 00:38:22,474 When I met him, he said, "thank you for your service." 695 00:38:22,517 --> 00:38:24,693 I was like, "oh. 696 00:38:24,737 --> 00:38:28,175 "really, congressman john lewis? 697 00:38:28,218 --> 00:38:29,829 "you're thanking me? 698 00:38:29,872 --> 00:38:31,439 I feel special." 699 00:38:31,483 --> 00:38:33,354 I felt very special. 700 00:38:41,362 --> 00:38:44,234 - it's important, I think, for the clients to see us, 701 00:38:44,278 --> 00:38:47,847 and kind of keep their morale up and know that we have, 702 00:38:47,890 --> 00:38:50,240 you know, their best interests at heart. 703 00:38:50,284 --> 00:38:53,853 I know in particular with me how I interrelate 704 00:38:53,896 --> 00:38:55,202 with my clients. 705 00:38:55,245 --> 00:38:58,423 I see them as cousins or brothers, 706 00:38:58,466 --> 00:39:02,383 some uncles, 707 00:39:02,427 --> 00:39:03,602 just because it-- 708 00:39:03,645 --> 00:39:06,387 the face of the black community is, 709 00:39:06,431 --> 00:39:07,693 so many of them are locked up, 710 00:39:07,736 --> 00:39:11,653 and of course, I'm having to work against 711 00:39:11,697 --> 00:39:14,439 their initial impression of public defenders 712 00:39:14,482 --> 00:39:17,093 because their first public defender 713 00:39:17,137 --> 00:39:20,227 somewhat screwed them. 714 00:39:20,270 --> 00:39:22,229 Hi, miss lewis. 715 00:39:22,272 --> 00:39:23,448 Good. 716 00:39:23,491 --> 00:39:25,972 Maybe if you could sit over here. 717 00:39:26,015 --> 00:39:27,190 How are you? 718 00:39:27,234 --> 00:39:28,583 - I'm doing fine. - good. good. good. 719 00:39:28,627 --> 00:39:30,193 Good to see you. - you too. 720 00:39:30,237 --> 00:39:32,021 - two days in a row. It's freezing outside. 721 00:39:32,065 --> 00:39:35,416 - it really is. 722 00:39:35,460 --> 00:39:38,201 So you know why I'm here. 723 00:39:38,245 --> 00:39:39,507 I'm here to... - yeah. 724 00:39:39,551 --> 00:39:40,769 - kind of get a better understanding 725 00:39:40,813 --> 00:39:44,599 of what took place when you were arrested. 726 00:39:44,643 --> 00:39:47,297 But let's kind of 727 00:39:47,341 --> 00:39:52,564 go through some of your biographical information. 728 00:39:52,607 --> 00:39:55,044 What do you do? - I'm a certified mechanic. 729 00:39:55,088 --> 00:39:56,568 - you're kidding me. - no kidding. 730 00:39:56,611 --> 00:39:59,571 - okay. certified mechanic. Wow. 731 00:39:59,614 --> 00:40:01,268 How long have you been a mechanic? 732 00:40:01,311 --> 00:40:02,878 - about 15 years. 733 00:40:06,491 --> 00:40:09,885 - okay. 734 00:40:09,929 --> 00:40:12,801 So once you're released and you go back to your norm, 735 00:40:12,845 --> 00:40:16,239 you'll go back to working on cars and such? 736 00:40:16,283 --> 00:40:18,590 - I'ma try, 'cause since I've been in here, 737 00:40:18,633 --> 00:40:19,939 I've lost my house. 738 00:40:19,982 --> 00:40:22,681 They've broken in and stole all my tools. 739 00:40:22,724 --> 00:40:24,204 - oh. - so I'ma have to, like-- 740 00:40:24,247 --> 00:40:26,641 - start from scratch. - start from scratch. 741 00:40:26,685 --> 00:40:27,947 I'm have to--i'ma leave here 742 00:40:27,990 --> 00:40:30,340 and go into a shelter and start from scratch. 743 00:40:30,384 --> 00:40:31,907 - okay. 744 00:40:31,951 --> 00:40:34,388 - but after my landlord found out I was incarcerated, 745 00:40:34,432 --> 00:40:37,435 he filed eviction notices against me. 746 00:40:38,914 --> 00:40:41,482 - my mom said she went to go get it the other day, 747 00:40:41,526 --> 00:40:42,788 but he had the lock on the door, 748 00:40:42,831 --> 00:40:44,267 'cause I had court 749 00:40:44,311 --> 00:40:46,661 that he put an eviction notice on my door, 750 00:40:46,705 --> 00:40:47,923 and I had court, 751 00:40:47,967 --> 00:40:49,795 and I told three guards here 752 00:40:49,838 --> 00:40:51,884 that I was supposed to be in court. 753 00:40:51,927 --> 00:40:54,234 Okay, nobody took me to court. 754 00:40:54,277 --> 00:40:57,019 So the court, they ruled in the landlord's favor. 755 00:40:57,063 --> 00:40:58,020 - wow. 756 00:40:58,064 --> 00:40:59,674 It's default judgment. Mm-hmm. 757 00:40:59,718 --> 00:41:02,503 - yeah, so that caused me to be really evicted from my house, 758 00:41:02,547 --> 00:41:04,723 but she said she called the court to let 'em know 759 00:41:04,766 --> 00:41:07,682 that I was incarcerated. 760 00:41:07,726 --> 00:41:08,683 - mm-hmm. 761 00:41:08,727 --> 00:41:10,511 - but she said that 762 00:41:10,555 --> 00:41:12,731 they haven't really did the eviction yet, 763 00:41:12,774 --> 00:41:14,646 so he just, like, holding my stuff. 764 00:41:14,689 --> 00:41:15,777 - okay, wow. 765 00:41:15,821 --> 00:41:18,998 Thank you for letting me know that. 766 00:41:19,041 --> 00:41:24,003 So you were convicted of cocaine possession back in 2004. 767 00:41:24,046 --> 00:41:26,353 - yeah, I admitted to it. Yes, I did. 768 00:41:26,396 --> 00:41:28,094 I really pled to get out of jail, 769 00:41:28,137 --> 00:41:30,705 'cause I had never been in jail before. 770 00:41:30,749 --> 00:41:34,535 It was just my public defender, and me and her had problems. 771 00:41:34,579 --> 00:41:36,537 And she told me when I took that plea-- 772 00:41:36,581 --> 00:41:40,889 she told me that I wouldn't be considered a convicted felon. 773 00:41:40,933 --> 00:41:42,630 I've been screwed around the first time 774 00:41:42,674 --> 00:41:44,066 by a public defender, 775 00:41:44,110 --> 00:41:46,068 and when they told me I had another one, 776 00:41:46,112 --> 00:41:48,636 I figured my life was completely over. 777 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,857 - your sentence was two years suspended, 778 00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:54,120 two years on probation, and you're right. 779 00:41:54,163 --> 00:41:55,991 Since you were a first-time offender, 780 00:41:56,035 --> 00:41:58,428 you should've been eligible for a nonadjudication. 781 00:41:58,472 --> 00:42:00,822 I'm not sure what happened, and I apologize that-- 782 00:42:00,866 --> 00:42:02,302 - I don't either. 783 00:42:02,345 --> 00:42:03,390 - that that took place. 784 00:42:03,433 --> 00:42:05,087 But it's not the end of the world. 785 00:42:05,131 --> 00:42:06,480 It's not the end of the world. 786 00:42:06,524 --> 00:42:07,568 We can definitely fix it. 787 00:42:07,612 --> 00:42:08,874 - it's the end of my world, 788 00:42:08,917 --> 00:42:10,571 'cause that messed up a lot of stuff for me. 789 00:42:10,615 --> 00:42:12,747 - but we can--we can come-- we can rebound from it. 790 00:42:12,791 --> 00:42:13,748 I'm sure we can. 791 00:42:13,792 --> 00:42:14,923 I'm gonna, you know, 792 00:42:14,967 --> 00:42:16,577 ask about the different eyewitnesses. 793 00:42:16,621 --> 00:42:18,100 Where were they standing? 794 00:42:18,144 --> 00:42:19,667 Were any of them under the influence? 795 00:42:19,711 --> 00:42:21,321 I mean, 'cause it could've been anything 796 00:42:21,364 --> 00:42:25,630 that clouded maybe their vision or their vantage point, 797 00:42:25,673 --> 00:42:28,371 their perception of what took place. 798 00:42:28,415 --> 00:42:29,677 All right? 799 00:42:29,721 --> 00:42:31,679 So I will see you on monday. 800 00:42:31,723 --> 00:42:33,072 Thank you so much. - thank you. 801 00:42:33,115 --> 00:42:35,248 - you're welcome. You're welcome. 802 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,653 - branden's trial date is coming up. 803 00:42:48,696 --> 00:42:53,919 So far, neither side has come up with any conclusive evidence. 804 00:42:55,442 --> 00:42:57,966 The person who committed the robbery was disguised, 805 00:42:58,010 --> 00:43:01,230 so the victim can't accurately i.d. anyone. 806 00:43:04,059 --> 00:43:06,714 I was looking through branden's file a few days ago, 807 00:43:06,758 --> 00:43:09,151 and that's when I remembered the fingerprints. 808 00:43:12,459 --> 00:43:15,157 - the driver drives in. 809 00:43:15,201 --> 00:43:19,597 He's looking for essentially 810 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,729 that apartment, I believe. 811 00:43:21,773 --> 00:43:23,688 I believe he's looking for that apartment. 812 00:43:23,731 --> 00:43:28,388 Somebody comes out and puts a knife towards him. 813 00:43:28,431 --> 00:43:32,784 Now, what happened is, the robber, no gloves, 814 00:43:32,827 --> 00:43:35,613 put his hand certain places on the car. 815 00:43:37,179 --> 00:43:38,920 The state lifted prints from the hood, 816 00:43:38,964 --> 00:43:40,443 but they never tested them. 817 00:43:41,749 --> 00:43:43,098 I wanted to test the prints, 818 00:43:43,142 --> 00:43:44,926 but unfortunately we don't have the resources 819 00:43:44,970 --> 00:43:46,885 to make that happen. 820 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,803 So I have to trick the d.a. Into doing it. 821 00:43:51,846 --> 00:43:54,066 So I filed a motion in court 822 00:43:54,109 --> 00:43:56,416 saying that I wanted to ban all fingerprint evidence 823 00:43:56,459 --> 00:43:58,113 from the trial. 824 00:43:58,157 --> 00:43:59,680 This made the d.a. think that I was scared 825 00:43:59,724 --> 00:44:02,770 of the fingerprint evidence, and they tested it. 826 00:44:02,814 --> 00:44:04,990 We got the results back, 827 00:44:05,033 --> 00:44:07,688 and they didn't match branden or cody. 828 00:44:07,732 --> 00:44:11,823 This backs up what branden's been saying the whole time. 829 00:44:11,866 --> 00:44:13,563 Neither of them committed the crime, 830 00:44:13,607 --> 00:44:15,174 so we're going to trial. 831 00:44:17,655 --> 00:44:19,178 - branden mullin. 832 00:44:22,485 --> 00:44:24,923 - waiting for the state's announcement. 833 00:44:24,966 --> 00:44:27,012 - um, I'm--i'm-- 834 00:44:27,055 --> 00:44:29,449 I guess we'll be ready subject to a plea. 835 00:44:29,492 --> 00:44:30,493 We're, um-- 836 00:44:30,537 --> 00:44:32,713 - well, a plea was a possibility, 837 00:44:32,757 --> 00:44:34,889 but that's not gonna happen. 838 00:44:34,933 --> 00:44:37,239 We're ready for trial. 839 00:44:37,283 --> 00:44:39,720 - all right. 840 00:44:39,764 --> 00:44:40,808 We'll mark it as ready. 841 00:44:40,852 --> 00:44:42,288 - and, sir, just out of curiosity, 842 00:44:42,331 --> 00:44:44,986 where will that case be on the trial calendar? 843 00:44:45,030 --> 00:44:46,814 - it looks like it's number two. 844 00:44:46,858 --> 00:44:50,513 - and so we would be number two on the january 9th calendar? 845 00:44:50,557 --> 00:44:52,428 - number two on the january 9th calendar, 846 00:44:52,472 --> 00:44:53,647 probably number one-- 847 00:44:54,866 --> 00:44:56,084 Yes, sir. 848 00:45:02,438 --> 00:45:05,137 - okay, we're gonna go over the evidence 849 00:45:05,180 --> 00:45:07,748 that the prosecutors have. 850 00:45:07,792 --> 00:45:11,796 Officer brennan says that on december 3rd, 851 00:45:11,839 --> 00:45:13,406 he responded to an armed robbery. 852 00:45:13,449 --> 00:45:16,757 A black in color automatic handgun was used. 853 00:45:16,801 --> 00:45:20,979 They handed over around $300 worth of cash. 854 00:45:21,022 --> 00:45:22,763 They said that they know the person 855 00:45:22,807 --> 00:45:25,374 as being a frequent customer in the pizza shop. 856 00:45:25,418 --> 00:45:28,421 "i, officer brennan, initiated an arrest warrant. 857 00:45:28,464 --> 00:45:30,423 "upon officer searching the room of the offender, 858 00:45:30,466 --> 00:45:32,468 "they found a yellow in color cardboard box 859 00:45:32,512 --> 00:45:35,602 with 13 winchester .25 auto bullets." 860 00:45:35,645 --> 00:45:37,909 According to you, they are-- 861 00:45:37,952 --> 00:45:39,780 they match a revolver, right? 862 00:45:39,824 --> 00:45:41,173 - yeah, a .22. 863 00:45:42,478 --> 00:45:43,871 - I mean, it can be. 864 00:45:43,915 --> 00:45:47,222 They got .22 automatic, and they got .22 revolvers. 865 00:45:47,266 --> 00:45:48,049 - okay. 866 00:45:48,093 --> 00:45:49,572 So would bullets to a .22 867 00:45:49,616 --> 00:45:51,792 match the same bullets to a 9 868 00:45:51,836 --> 00:45:52,967 - oh, not at all. 869 00:45:53,011 --> 00:45:54,273 .22 bullet like this small. 870 00:45:54,316 --> 00:45:56,710 9-millimeter, they medium-sized. 871 00:45:56,754 --> 00:45:58,886 - okay. 872 00:45:58,930 --> 00:46:00,235 All they have is testimony. 873 00:46:00,279 --> 00:46:03,499 They don't have any fingerprints, 874 00:46:03,543 --> 00:46:07,199 any pictures, 'cause they didn't have a camera in there. 875 00:46:07,242 --> 00:46:10,855 I wish I could say that we were gonna go in and win this case. 876 00:46:10,898 --> 00:46:12,465 I just don't know, 877 00:46:12,508 --> 00:46:14,075 and that's the god's honest truth. 878 00:46:14,119 --> 00:46:16,817 I can tell you that I will give everything that I have 879 00:46:16,861 --> 00:46:18,819 to getting you out of these charges. 880 00:46:18,863 --> 00:46:21,256 I've maintained that throughout my representation of you. 881 00:46:21,300 --> 00:46:22,954 But at the end of the day, 882 00:46:22,997 --> 00:46:25,870 you just never, ever know what a jury is gonna do. 883 00:46:25,913 --> 00:46:27,436 Ever. 884 00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,570 So--and the stakes are really, really high, 885 00:46:30,613 --> 00:46:31,745 because if we lose, 886 00:46:31,789 --> 00:46:35,923 it's day for day at least ten years, 887 00:46:35,967 --> 00:46:38,012 day for day, 888 00:46:38,056 --> 00:46:39,666 no parole. 889 00:46:39,709 --> 00:46:41,015 If you're found guilty, 890 00:46:41,059 --> 00:46:44,279 they're gonna take you into custody that day. 891 00:46:44,323 --> 00:46:47,848 So even if we put sentencing off until a later time, 892 00:46:47,892 --> 00:46:52,026 they're not gonna let you leave. 893 00:46:52,070 --> 00:46:53,811 Anything else? 894 00:46:53,854 --> 00:46:57,771 - do you have another copy of the discovery packet? 895 00:46:57,815 --> 00:46:58,903 - yeah. 896 00:46:58,946 --> 00:47:00,295 - what'd you do with the one I sent you? 897 00:47:00,339 --> 00:47:01,775 - I still got it, but it got wet. 898 00:47:01,819 --> 00:47:02,863 I had got tea on it. 899 00:47:02,907 --> 00:47:04,343 - I'll make you a copy. 900 00:47:30,021 --> 00:47:33,894 - I don't know. 901 00:47:39,769 --> 00:47:41,467 I don't know either. 902 00:47:48,126 --> 00:47:49,997 You ain't got no questions? 903 00:47:52,565 --> 00:47:55,176 You got to have some kind of questions. 904 00:48:06,144 --> 00:48:09,277 - I have huge student loan debt. 905 00:48:09,321 --> 00:48:11,627 After I pay my student loans and my rent, 906 00:48:11,671 --> 00:48:17,677 I have probably $300 a month to pay extra bills 907 00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:20,071 like gas and the car, all that kind of stuff, 908 00:48:20,114 --> 00:48:22,769 groceries. 909 00:48:22,812 --> 00:48:24,205 But I don't see how you can do this work 910 00:48:24,249 --> 00:48:25,728 for any period of time 911 00:48:25,772 --> 00:48:27,687 and not begin to love it. 912 00:48:27,730 --> 00:48:30,603 If you don't, then it'll just drive you insane. 913 00:48:32,953 --> 00:48:35,825 Either you--either this is your cause, or this ain't. 914 00:48:42,702 --> 00:48:44,008 - student loans. 915 00:48:46,488 --> 00:48:49,013 Bank of america telling me that I overdrew. 916 00:48:50,884 --> 00:48:52,320 student loans. 917 00:48:52,364 --> 00:48:56,368 Seriously, most of these are student loan bills. 918 00:49:00,589 --> 00:49:03,723 And that is why I'd prefer not to look at them. 919 00:49:05,638 --> 00:49:06,856 It's depressing. 920 00:49:12,123 --> 00:49:16,954 this is all the money I have in the world right now. 921 00:49:16,997 --> 00:49:19,086 My gas light is on. 922 00:49:19,130 --> 00:49:20,740 And so I'm getting $3 in gas, 923 00:49:20,783 --> 00:49:24,613 and hopefully that will take me home 924 00:49:24,657 --> 00:49:29,531 and back to work in the morning 925 00:49:29,575 --> 00:49:31,664 and then back home in the afternoon, 926 00:49:31,707 --> 00:49:33,405 because I don't get paid until friday. 927 00:49:37,887 --> 00:49:40,847 - money pressure is like any other pressure. 928 00:49:40,890 --> 00:49:45,243 It takes something out of you to deal with it, 929 00:49:45,286 --> 00:49:47,941 and this job takes a lot out of you 930 00:49:47,985 --> 00:49:50,248 just to do the job. 931 00:49:50,291 --> 00:49:54,513 That can be a significant burden on a person. 932 00:49:54,556 --> 00:49:58,082 But it's just something you have to come to live with. 933 00:49:58,125 --> 00:50:00,606 It's something you have to accept. 934 00:50:06,003 --> 00:50:07,830 - in the last year, 935 00:50:07,874 --> 00:50:11,530 three public defenders left the office. 936 00:50:16,100 --> 00:50:18,798 It's rough financially. 937 00:50:18,841 --> 00:50:21,931 So it takes--it takes a certain kind of person maybe 938 00:50:21,975 --> 00:50:24,282 to continue to, you know, 939 00:50:24,325 --> 00:50:28,721 work under the circumstances. 940 00:50:31,419 --> 00:50:33,117 - I'll probably leave here about 2:00, so... 941 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,249 - yeah. 942 00:50:35,293 --> 00:50:36,250 - let's go upstairs. 943 00:50:36,294 --> 00:50:37,904 - all right. 944 00:50:40,733 --> 00:50:44,389 - I am gonna make you some homemade alfredo sauce. 945 00:50:44,432 --> 00:50:46,478 - when I met travis, 946 00:50:46,521 --> 00:50:50,264 he told me he originally moved to georgia to find his dad 947 00:50:50,308 --> 00:50:52,092 but hadn't found his dad yet, 948 00:50:52,136 --> 00:50:56,401 and then he finally got the courage 949 00:50:56,444 --> 00:51:01,275 to ask his birth mother, 950 00:51:01,319 --> 00:51:05,192 you know, for a name and stuff. 951 00:51:05,236 --> 00:51:08,152 And now he's about to go meet this guy. 952 00:51:26,518 --> 00:51:28,824 we're on our way to meet up 953 00:51:28,868 --> 00:51:31,349 with my biological-- 954 00:51:31,392 --> 00:51:33,525 potentially my biological father. 955 00:51:33,568 --> 00:51:35,744 Had a conversation with him the other night, 956 00:51:35,788 --> 00:51:39,574 and he seems to think that I'm his son. 957 00:51:39,618 --> 00:51:42,055 Said he always wanted a son. 958 00:51:42,099 --> 00:51:43,491 I never wanted a father. 959 00:51:43,535 --> 00:51:45,232 In fact, I don't want one now. 960 00:51:45,276 --> 00:51:49,149 I just want to close this chapter in my life. 961 00:51:52,196 --> 00:52:00,117 ♪ 962 00:52:08,821 --> 00:52:11,824 Well, we sat down, and I hit him with a few questions, 963 00:52:11,867 --> 00:52:13,521 just, you know, "do you think I'm your son? 964 00:52:13,565 --> 00:52:16,176 "how do you know my biological mother? 965 00:52:16,220 --> 00:52:18,178 What was y'all relationship like?" 966 00:52:18,222 --> 00:52:20,180 You know, and he kind of answered the question 967 00:52:20,224 --> 00:52:24,837 as to why he never tried to make contact, 968 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,319 that he had no way to get in contact with her, 969 00:52:28,362 --> 00:52:30,190 which was true. 970 00:52:33,411 --> 00:52:35,326 Which was true. 971 00:52:37,415 --> 00:52:38,851 But I don't know. 972 00:52:38,894 --> 00:52:40,853 As a person that never takes no for an answer, 973 00:52:40,896 --> 00:52:41,984 I was just-- 974 00:52:42,028 --> 00:52:44,422 that wouldn't have been enough for me. 975 00:52:58,958 --> 00:52:59,741 I don't know. 976 00:52:59,785 --> 00:53:02,222 I guess I was just hoping 977 00:53:02,266 --> 00:53:04,442 that somebody wanted me. 978 00:53:12,450 --> 00:53:14,191 - today is my 30th birthday. 979 00:53:17,933 --> 00:53:21,285 Whoo-hoo! I'm so glad you made it! 980 00:53:23,374 --> 00:53:25,941 - my dad came up from florida. 981 00:53:25,985 --> 00:53:28,248 I've been in atlanta for about 2 1/2 years, 982 00:53:28,292 --> 00:53:29,380 and he's never come. 983 00:53:29,423 --> 00:53:32,339 So it's amazing. 984 00:53:32,383 --> 00:53:33,601 Okay, that's good. 985 00:53:33,645 --> 00:53:36,343 Danielle, I need one with me and my daddy. 986 00:53:36,387 --> 00:53:39,955 Okay, go. 987 00:53:39,999 --> 00:53:41,043 - turn it the long ways. 988 00:53:41,087 --> 00:53:42,567 You got to get my figure, danielle. 989 00:53:42,610 --> 00:53:43,568 Come on. 990 00:53:46,266 --> 00:53:48,312 - all right, one, two, three. 991 00:53:52,533 --> 00:53:54,187 - at any point you get nervous, 992 00:53:54,231 --> 00:53:56,407 and you feel like you want to hold on to something, 993 00:53:56,450 --> 00:53:58,017 grab your harness right here. 994 00:53:58,060 --> 00:53:59,061 - right here. 995 00:53:59,105 --> 00:54:00,846 - yeah, just don't grab my hands. 996 00:54:00,889 --> 00:54:02,717 - okay. 'cause then we can't pull the parachute. 997 00:54:02,761 --> 00:54:04,589 - 'cause--yeah, then I can't open the parachute. 998 00:54:04,632 --> 00:54:06,591 - don't you worry. I won't grab your hands. 999 00:54:08,506 --> 00:54:11,030 you gonna scream, daddy? 1000 00:54:11,073 --> 00:54:13,511 - yeah. 1001 00:54:13,554 --> 00:54:15,556 - now I'm nervous-- 1002 00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:17,166 excited but nervous. 1003 00:54:17,210 --> 00:54:18,516 - oh, yeah. 1004 00:54:23,695 --> 00:54:26,263 My hope for my daughter is to be happy. 1005 00:54:37,404 --> 00:54:38,971 I look up to her 1006 00:54:39,014 --> 00:54:43,149 because she believe in helping people. 1007 00:54:46,370 --> 00:54:49,938 And when you got a person that believe in helping people, 1008 00:54:49,982 --> 00:54:51,244 you cannot fail. 1009 00:54:51,288 --> 00:54:54,029 I don't care how much you feel like you fail. 1010 00:55:03,952 --> 00:55:09,523 Failure is when you stop dreaming. 1011 00:55:09,567 --> 00:55:11,743 She never stopped dreaming. 1012 00:55:35,984 --> 00:55:38,726 - I found out yesterday that branden's friend cody, 1013 00:55:38,770 --> 00:55:40,902 the one he got arrested with, 1014 00:55:40,946 --> 00:55:44,123 has become a witness for the prosecution. 1015 00:55:44,166 --> 00:55:47,996 He is gonna say that he committed the crime with branden 1016 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,738 in exchange for a lesser prison sentence. 1017 00:55:52,218 --> 00:55:54,438 This is probably the most damaging evidence 1018 00:55:54,481 --> 00:55:56,048 the state could have. 1019 00:55:57,441 --> 00:55:59,268 Even with the fingerprint evidence, 1020 00:55:59,312 --> 00:56:02,663 it's gonna be hard to walk branden out of that courtroom. 1021 00:56:11,585 --> 00:56:13,239 Me and the prosecutor have agreed 1022 00:56:13,282 --> 00:56:17,635 that the charge of armed robbery is gonna be dismissed. 1023 00:56:17,678 --> 00:56:20,420 Branden will plead a robbery by intimidation 1024 00:56:20,464 --> 00:56:22,335 with a cap of five years, 1025 00:56:22,379 --> 00:56:25,382 so he can't get any more than five years to serve in prison. 1026 00:56:26,861 --> 00:56:29,255 I think him pleading guilty is the right decision 1027 00:56:29,298 --> 00:56:34,173 only because the risk is great. 1028 00:56:34,216 --> 00:56:36,131 You can get life in prison for armed robbery 1029 00:56:36,175 --> 00:56:37,698 in the state of georgia. 1030 00:56:37,742 --> 00:56:40,222 We had a chance at prevailing, 1031 00:56:40,266 --> 00:56:43,487 but if the jury believes that it was--believes cody, 1032 00:56:43,530 --> 00:56:47,578 we--our chance of winning goes to zero. 1033 00:57:01,287 --> 00:57:03,942 - cody was like a brother, you know? 1034 00:57:03,985 --> 00:57:07,424 I've known him since I was ten years old. 1035 00:57:07,467 --> 00:57:09,469 Life's not fair. 1036 00:57:09,513 --> 00:57:13,168 I could either take the chance 1037 00:57:13,212 --> 00:57:16,650 of going to trial and losing 1038 00:57:16,694 --> 00:57:21,438 and having to serve the whole time, 1039 00:57:21,481 --> 00:57:23,701 or I could take this deal 1040 00:57:23,744 --> 00:57:27,879 which is less time and maybe still get, you know-- 1041 00:57:27,922 --> 00:57:30,403 get out and do what I got to do. 1042 00:57:44,069 --> 00:57:45,592 There's--there's nothing-- 1043 00:57:45,636 --> 00:57:47,594 there's no way around it. 1044 00:57:47,638 --> 00:57:49,466 There's no running from it. 1045 00:57:49,509 --> 00:57:52,207 It's just something you got to handle. 1046 00:57:52,251 --> 00:57:54,471 You got to--you just got to take care of it. 1047 00:58:01,216 --> 00:58:04,132 - when you're a public defender with clients, you know, 1048 00:58:04,176 --> 00:58:07,527 it's--it's-- it's a very close relationship. 1049 00:58:07,571 --> 00:58:08,876 It's you and this other person, 1050 00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,706 and you're having a legalized war, 1051 00:58:12,750 --> 00:58:14,229 you know, with the state, 1052 00:58:14,273 --> 00:58:16,623 and you're, you know, planning together, 1053 00:58:16,667 --> 00:58:17,972 and you're working together, 1054 00:58:18,016 --> 00:58:20,584 and you meet their family, you know. 1055 00:58:20,627 --> 00:58:22,629 So losing a case with a friend 1056 00:58:22,673 --> 00:58:26,285 and having that friend cuffed, 1057 00:58:26,328 --> 00:58:28,809 and you might've been able to do something about it, 1058 00:58:28,853 --> 00:58:30,463 and maybe you didn't do it. 1059 00:58:30,507 --> 00:58:31,638 Maybe you missed something. 1060 00:58:31,682 --> 00:58:32,770 And those are the things 1061 00:58:32,813 --> 00:58:36,600 that keep rolling around in your head, 1062 00:58:36,643 --> 00:58:37,905 really, forever. 1063 00:58:37,949 --> 00:58:39,559 That's what it's like. 1064 00:58:39,603 --> 00:58:41,126 It's awful. 1065 00:58:48,133 --> 00:58:51,049 - today is branden's plea day and sentencing. 1066 00:58:51,092 --> 00:58:52,572 Even though we aren't having a trial, 1067 00:58:52,616 --> 00:58:54,748 we're still going to be able to make an argument 1068 00:58:54,792 --> 00:58:56,794 that branden should get less time. 1069 00:58:59,710 --> 00:59:03,148 In this case, the amount of time is very important. 1070 00:59:03,191 --> 00:59:06,717 If he gets two years, which is what we're asking for, 1071 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,980 he will likely go to a medium security prison 1072 00:59:09,023 --> 00:59:11,765 or hopefully a boot camp program. 1073 00:59:11,809 --> 00:59:13,941 If he gets five years, 1074 00:59:13,985 --> 00:59:16,857 he'll probably go to a maximum security prison 1075 00:59:16,901 --> 00:59:21,427 where people get sexually attacked and assaulted. 1076 00:59:21,470 --> 00:59:23,864 You know, it's anal rape prison. It's the real deal. 1077 00:59:23,908 --> 00:59:25,692 It's not a game. It's not a joke. 1078 00:59:28,956 --> 00:59:30,697 Branden, how are you doing today, man? 1079 00:59:30,741 --> 00:59:31,916 - good. 1080 00:59:34,179 --> 00:59:36,747 - we have to go over the plea petition 1081 00:59:36,790 --> 00:59:40,402 and all the rights that you give up. 1082 00:59:40,446 --> 00:59:41,795 It's branden lee, right? 1083 00:59:41,839 --> 00:59:43,188 - yes, sir. 1084 00:59:45,886 --> 00:59:48,976 20? 1085 00:59:49,020 --> 00:59:50,630 How far did you go in school? 1086 00:59:50,674 --> 00:59:52,589 - um, sophomore. 1087 00:59:55,940 --> 00:59:57,681 - you've seen the discovery and everything. 1088 00:59:57,724 --> 00:59:59,421 You understand what you're charged with, correct? 1089 00:59:59,465 --> 01:00:00,771 - yes, sir. 1090 01:00:00,814 --> 01:00:01,815 - all right. 1091 01:00:01,859 --> 01:00:03,251 The sentence you'll get 1092 01:00:03,295 --> 01:00:04,688 is solely a matter for the judge to decide, 1093 01:00:04,731 --> 01:00:05,993 especially in our situation. 1094 01:00:06,037 --> 01:00:08,605 Do you understand? - yes. 1095 01:00:12,391 --> 01:00:16,656 - and did you commit the acts as 1096 01:00:16,700 --> 01:00:20,181 - um, I mean, I was there. 1097 01:00:21,705 --> 01:00:24,098 - so when the judge asks you-- the judge is gonna ask you, 1098 01:00:24,142 --> 01:00:26,666 "did you commit the offenses as charged-- 1099 01:00:26,710 --> 01:00:28,886 commit the offense as charged?" 1100 01:00:28,929 --> 01:00:31,671 And that'll be either yes or no. 1101 01:00:40,506 --> 01:00:42,726 it is something I got to say yeah to, huh? 1102 01:00:42,769 --> 01:00:44,466 - it's not something you have to say yeah to. 1103 01:00:44,510 --> 01:00:47,687 I can have us answer the plea to say that 1104 01:00:47,731 --> 01:00:49,820 "although I'm not admitting guilt, 1105 01:00:49,863 --> 01:00:52,083 "i do recognize that the evidence is sufficient 1106 01:00:52,126 --> 01:00:54,172 to authorize a conviction." 1107 01:00:54,215 --> 01:00:55,347 - yes. 1108 01:00:55,390 --> 01:00:57,131 Something like that. 1109 01:01:01,832 --> 01:01:02,920 - all right. 1110 01:01:02,963 --> 01:01:03,877 Now, you give up some important rights 1111 01:01:03,921 --> 01:01:04,835 when you plead guilty. 1112 01:01:04,878 --> 01:01:06,358 I'ma go over those rights. 1113 01:01:06,401 --> 01:01:07,838 If you don't understand any of 'em, 1114 01:01:07,881 --> 01:01:09,274 just stop me and I'll explain 'em. 1115 01:01:09,317 --> 01:01:10,971 You waive your fourth amendment rights 1116 01:01:11,015 --> 01:01:12,843 against illegal search and seizure. 1117 01:01:12,886 --> 01:01:14,453 By waiving those rights, 1118 01:01:14,496 --> 01:01:15,976 you can be searched by law enforcement 1119 01:01:16,020 --> 01:01:18,152 or your probation officer 1120 01:01:18,196 --> 01:01:21,590 at any given time for no reason at all. 1121 01:01:21,634 --> 01:01:23,201 You give up the right to plead not guilty. 1122 01:01:23,244 --> 01:01:24,724 You give up the right to have a trial. 1123 01:01:24,768 --> 01:01:27,901 You give up the right to make the state prove your guilt 1124 01:01:27,945 --> 01:01:29,686 beyond a reasonable doubt, 1125 01:01:29,729 --> 01:01:32,340 and you give up the right to appeal your conviction. 1126 01:01:32,384 --> 01:01:34,386 Your conviction may negatively impact 1127 01:01:34,429 --> 01:01:37,519 your ability to obtain or maintain a driver's license, 1128 01:01:37,563 --> 01:01:39,870 obtain or maintain employment, vote, 1129 01:01:39,913 --> 01:01:41,741 and there may be other consequences 1130 01:01:41,785 --> 01:01:43,351 which you cannot anticipate. 1131 01:01:43,395 --> 01:01:46,441 You understand those rights? - mm-hmm. 1132 01:01:46,485 --> 01:01:48,530 - and do you still want to plead guilty? 1133 01:01:51,969 --> 01:01:54,754 Yes? - yes. 1134 01:01:54,798 --> 01:01:56,974 - all right, today is the... 1135 01:01:57,017 --> 01:02:00,412 9th day of april 2012. 1136 01:02:02,762 --> 01:02:04,111 Sign right here. 1137 01:02:12,816 --> 01:02:20,998 ♪ 1138 01:02:23,827 --> 01:02:25,959 - dick mecum running for hall county commission chair. 1139 01:02:26,003 --> 01:02:27,787 Appreciate your vote. 1140 01:02:33,837 --> 01:02:35,229 - right down there. 1141 01:02:46,197 --> 01:02:48,765 - judge deal is doing jury orientation right now. 1142 01:02:53,030 --> 01:02:54,901 Okay. - um, cody is here. 1143 01:02:54,945 --> 01:02:57,425 Um, I was - mm-hmm. 1144 01:03:40,860 --> 01:03:42,949 - no. 1145 01:03:42,993 --> 01:03:46,779 - judge, this is case number 2011cr252-c, 1146 01:03:46,823 --> 01:03:50,348 the state of georgia versus branden lee mullin. 1147 01:03:50,391 --> 01:03:52,176 The defendant is entering a plea 1148 01:03:52,219 --> 01:03:55,614 to the offense of robbery by intimidation. 1149 01:03:56,876 --> 01:03:58,095 - all right, mr. williams, 1150 01:03:58,138 --> 01:03:59,574 any evidence you wish to present? 1151 01:03:59,618 --> 01:04:01,881 Any comments you have about the sentence? 1152 01:04:01,925 --> 01:04:02,926 - yes, sir. 1153 01:04:02,969 --> 01:04:04,318 What we would ask for this court 1154 01:04:04,362 --> 01:04:05,798 to sentence mr. mullin to 1155 01:04:05,842 --> 01:04:07,104 is a ten-year sentence 1156 01:04:07,147 --> 01:04:09,367 with two years to serve at the prison work camp. 1157 01:04:09,410 --> 01:04:14,067 Our contention at trial would be that he was not the robber, 1158 01:04:14,111 --> 01:04:17,114 and there were several people at the house--at least four. 1159 01:04:17,157 --> 01:04:19,159 The robber was disguised. 1160 01:04:19,203 --> 01:04:22,162 We contend that that person was one of the other guys 1161 01:04:22,206 --> 01:04:23,772 that was at the house. 1162 01:04:23,816 --> 01:04:27,776 Also branden has taken this time 1163 01:04:27,820 --> 01:04:29,778 since this incident 1164 01:04:29,822 --> 01:04:32,259 to improve himself greatly. 1165 01:04:32,303 --> 01:04:36,916 Branden is lucky enough to have encountered people lately 1166 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,744 that care a great deal about him, 1167 01:04:38,787 --> 01:04:40,615 that are interested in his well-being 1168 01:04:40,659 --> 01:04:43,314 and have a vested interest in his success. 1169 01:04:43,357 --> 01:04:46,970 That's not something he's ever had before in life. 1170 01:04:47,013 --> 01:04:50,930 Branden has had a tough go-around. 1171 01:04:50,974 --> 01:04:53,324 Branden has had people 1172 01:04:53,367 --> 01:04:56,936 that are supposed to care the most about you not care. 1173 01:04:56,980 --> 01:04:59,243 Personally, I can empathize with that, 1174 01:04:59,286 --> 01:05:04,378 and it hurts my heart to understand that this kid, 1175 01:05:04,422 --> 01:05:08,382 this child, is potentially gonna be thrown to the wolves. 1176 01:05:08,426 --> 01:05:14,127 And so we would just ask the court for grace 1177 01:05:14,171 --> 01:05:16,042 in the sentence that the court renders. 1178 01:05:24,050 --> 01:05:26,139 - all right. 1179 01:05:26,183 --> 01:05:28,141 Mr. mullin, 1180 01:05:28,185 --> 01:05:30,143 you got to understand 1181 01:05:30,187 --> 01:05:32,537 sort of where this all sits. 1182 01:05:32,580 --> 01:05:36,367 I have heard about your history, 1183 01:05:36,410 --> 01:05:38,760 and I empathize with you about that. 1184 01:05:38,804 --> 01:05:42,851 It sounds like you've had a rough go of it here, 1185 01:05:42,895 --> 01:05:47,204 and perhaps points out some of the failings of the system 1186 01:05:47,247 --> 01:05:50,337 regarding our children 1187 01:05:50,381 --> 01:05:54,037 that are in foster care and that sort of thing. 1188 01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:57,344 But you also have to understand 1189 01:05:57,388 --> 01:06:00,391 that somewhere along the lines 1190 01:06:00,434 --> 01:06:03,611 when you start putting other folks at risk, 1191 01:06:03,655 --> 01:06:08,573 then the scales start to change, 1192 01:06:08,616 --> 01:06:11,924 and holding a knife to someone's throat, 1193 01:06:11,968 --> 01:06:14,100 that just can't be tolerated by our society. 1194 01:06:14,144 --> 01:06:15,797 Our society has to be protected 1195 01:06:15,841 --> 01:06:17,451 from folks who would do those things. 1196 01:06:17,495 --> 01:06:19,845 And I do believe that you have potential. 1197 01:06:19,888 --> 01:06:24,458 I mean, you appear to be a smart kid, smart guy. 1198 01:06:24,502 --> 01:06:26,199 You got folks that are supporting you, 1199 01:06:26,243 --> 01:06:30,421 and they have built trust in you and given you opportunities, 1200 01:06:30,464 --> 01:06:33,990 and you've proved yourself worthy of those opportunities. 1201 01:06:34,033 --> 01:06:35,252 So I hope you understand 1202 01:06:35,295 --> 01:06:39,169 this is not a condemnation of you personally, 1203 01:06:39,212 --> 01:06:41,954 but it's a condemnation of your actions. 1204 01:06:41,998 --> 01:06:48,004 It appears that the state has given you a tremendous break, 1205 01:06:48,047 --> 01:06:50,919 because the mandatory minimum sentence for armed robbery 1206 01:06:50,963 --> 01:06:52,269 is ten years in prison, 1207 01:06:52,312 --> 01:06:56,142 and the evidence would point towards supporting 1208 01:06:56,186 --> 01:06:58,971 an armed robbery charge. 1209 01:06:59,015 --> 01:07:01,104 But they've reduced it to robbery by intimidation 1210 01:07:01,147 --> 01:07:04,107 and essentially cut the sentence in half, 1211 01:07:04,150 --> 01:07:07,545 and so the sentence on count one 1212 01:07:07,588 --> 01:07:10,461 is gonna be ten years with five years to serve in custody, 1213 01:07:10,504 --> 01:07:12,811 the remainder to be served on probation. 1214 01:07:12,854 --> 01:07:16,119 But I'm gonna remand you to custody this year. 1215 01:07:16,162 --> 01:07:17,990 - thank you. 1216 01:07:35,138 --> 01:07:36,269 - love you. 1217 01:07:43,102 --> 01:07:51,023 ♪ 1218 01:08:00,206 --> 01:08:02,121 - he is eligible for parole. - yeah. 1219 01:08:02,165 --> 01:08:03,992 - that's not five years to serve. 1220 01:08:04,036 --> 01:08:06,125 - it's--it's five years to serve, 1221 01:08:06,169 --> 01:08:08,127 but he's parole eligible. 1222 01:08:08,171 --> 01:08:11,043 He is parole eligible. 1223 01:08:11,087 --> 01:08:13,698 - and the violent crime that he's gonna serve, 1224 01:08:13,741 --> 01:08:14,829 how much of it? 1225 01:08:14,873 --> 01:08:16,875 - probably 65% to 90%. 1226 01:08:16,918 --> 01:08:18,050 Probably. 1227 01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:31,498 - the whole time it never felt real to me. 1228 01:08:31,542 --> 01:08:33,065 I grew up with him. 1229 01:08:33,109 --> 01:08:34,806 He was my best friend. You know what I mean? 1230 01:08:34,849 --> 01:08:36,286 Branden may not care about anybody in the world, 1231 01:08:36,329 --> 01:08:39,245 but he loved me. 1232 01:08:39,289 --> 01:08:42,640 I still love him with all my heart. 1233 01:08:44,207 --> 01:08:46,122 And I wanna just... 1234 01:08:46,165 --> 01:08:47,210 I can't. 1235 01:08:47,253 --> 01:08:49,037 - that's enough. Come on. 1236 01:09:15,412 --> 01:09:18,284 - I got to do another guilty plea in a few minutes. 1237 01:09:18,328 --> 01:09:19,981 Ain't no different 1238 01:09:20,025 --> 01:09:22,288 than what I see every other day, so... 1239 01:09:25,030 --> 01:09:26,858 It all takes a toll on me. 1240 01:09:26,901 --> 01:09:28,294 It's not easy. 1241 01:09:30,078 --> 01:09:32,385 I'll never get used to people going to prison. 1242 01:09:32,429 --> 01:09:34,126 I'll never get used to that. 1243 01:09:51,883 --> 01:09:56,931 - this case is different from most others that I've tried, 1244 01:09:56,975 --> 01:10:00,848 because I don't have any witness statements. 1245 01:10:00,892 --> 01:10:04,504 So I don't know what these people are gonna testify to. 1246 01:10:04,548 --> 01:10:07,942 I have no idea, because we're in georgia, 1247 01:10:07,986 --> 01:10:11,685 and I don't have the pleasure of taking depositions, 1248 01:10:11,729 --> 01:10:13,557 because money is not at stake, 1249 01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:15,515 because somebody's liberty is at stake. 1250 01:10:15,559 --> 01:10:16,777 So I don't get a deposition. 1251 01:10:21,347 --> 01:10:22,305 And because of that, 1252 01:10:22,348 --> 01:10:25,351 it's really kind of difficult 1253 01:10:25,395 --> 01:10:28,615 to come up with a solid defense, 1254 01:10:28,659 --> 01:10:31,314 'cause it--they could spin it. 1255 01:10:32,924 --> 01:10:36,275 Based on what the police have said, 1256 01:10:36,319 --> 01:10:38,103 my defense is going to be that 1257 01:10:38,146 --> 01:10:41,541 the person that they identified was not mr. wright. 1258 01:10:41,585 --> 01:10:43,543 It was just a mistake in identity. 1259 01:10:45,241 --> 01:10:48,505 Young mr. wright had braces at the time of this incident. 1260 01:10:48,548 --> 01:10:50,333 There is no mention by the police 1261 01:10:50,376 --> 01:10:53,814 of the victims telling them that the person had braces. 1262 01:10:53,858 --> 01:10:55,381 They say that they know for a fact 1263 01:10:55,425 --> 01:10:56,991 that it was young mr. wright, 1264 01:10:57,035 --> 01:10:58,863 because they're familiar with young mr. wright 1265 01:10:58,906 --> 01:11:01,735 because he frequents the pizza parlor. 1266 01:11:01,779 --> 01:11:04,347 So they should know that he was wearing braces, 1267 01:11:04,390 --> 01:11:07,350 and they should know that he has tattoos 1268 01:11:07,393 --> 01:11:10,744 from here down and from here down to his hands. 1269 01:11:10,788 --> 01:11:14,400 Like, he has tattoos on his hands. 1270 01:11:14,444 --> 01:11:20,363 I'm hoping that those braces are our savior. 1271 01:11:20,406 --> 01:11:21,886 I'm hoping. 1272 01:11:21,929 --> 01:11:24,062 I have his orthodontist under subpoena, 1273 01:11:24,105 --> 01:11:26,847 and even though he does not want to come, 1274 01:11:26,891 --> 01:11:28,327 so help me god, 1275 01:11:28,371 --> 01:11:30,416 I will drag him into court kicking and screaming 1276 01:11:30,460 --> 01:11:32,723 in handcuffs 1277 01:11:32,766 --> 01:11:36,248 because he is our out 1278 01:11:36,292 --> 01:11:37,510 as far as I can tell. 1279 01:11:37,554 --> 01:11:39,425 Now, again, they may flip it on me 1280 01:11:39,469 --> 01:11:42,341 and say that the person had braces all of a sudden, 1281 01:11:42,385 --> 01:11:44,169 and then I'm kind of screwed. 1282 01:11:44,212 --> 01:11:46,954 I mean, I don't know what I would argue at that point. 1283 01:11:46,998 --> 01:11:49,217 Hopefully, they leave that out. 1284 01:11:55,398 --> 01:12:03,580 ♪ 1285 01:12:12,502 --> 01:12:13,720 - all right, you got your ball. 1286 01:12:13,764 --> 01:12:16,506 Bottled water is in the car. 1287 01:12:16,549 --> 01:12:18,769 Got your shin guards. 1288 01:12:24,557 --> 01:12:27,821 I left the public defender office. 1289 01:12:27,865 --> 01:12:32,826 The main reason was the pay. 1290 01:12:32,870 --> 01:12:38,354 I was struggling to take care of raha and myself. 1291 01:12:42,967 --> 01:12:44,316 All right. 1292 01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,449 Have a good game. 1293 01:12:53,543 --> 01:12:56,241 I can remember writing a check for groceries 1294 01:12:56,284 --> 01:12:58,548 knowing that I didn't have enough money 1295 01:12:58,591 --> 01:13:00,376 in my checking account. 1296 01:13:03,335 --> 01:13:06,425 More and more, I was just disgusted. 1297 01:13:06,469 --> 01:13:09,515 How dare this system 1298 01:13:09,559 --> 01:13:13,563 treat public defenders like this? 1299 01:13:13,606 --> 01:13:15,739 We matter this much, 1300 01:13:15,782 --> 01:13:17,741 that after I get paid once a month, 1301 01:13:17,784 --> 01:13:20,396 I have $20 left to my name? 1302 01:13:23,224 --> 01:13:25,966 I am still in jackson. 1303 01:13:26,010 --> 01:13:29,579 I'm still doing, in my mind, public defender work. 1304 01:13:29,622 --> 01:13:32,364 I still get court-appointed cases. 1305 01:13:32,408 --> 01:13:36,499 I'm still representing indigent clients. 1306 01:13:36,542 --> 01:13:41,504 So though I'm not in a full-time public defender capacity, 1307 01:13:41,547 --> 01:13:44,507 I will forever be a public defender, 1308 01:13:44,550 --> 01:13:46,639 and it's an honor. 1309 01:13:52,819 --> 01:13:55,735 - we always deal with people 1310 01:13:55,779 --> 01:13:57,650 in our profession 1311 01:13:57,694 --> 01:14:00,523 who like to bitch and moan about 1312 01:14:00,566 --> 01:14:02,568 how tough they had it getting through law school 1313 01:14:02,612 --> 01:14:04,483 and this and that, but they had it easy. 1314 01:14:04,527 --> 01:14:06,616 Things were handed to 'em. 1315 01:14:06,659 --> 01:14:08,574 Things were there for them. 1316 01:14:08,618 --> 01:14:09,836 Travis had none of that. 1317 01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,317 Travis came up hard. 1318 01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:14,145 Travis grew up without a father. 1319 01:14:14,188 --> 01:14:19,672 He grew up without a mother that he could rely upon. 1320 01:14:19,716 --> 01:14:23,502 Nothing was handed to this young man. 1321 01:14:23,546 --> 01:14:27,506 He struggled his entire life. 1322 01:14:27,550 --> 01:14:30,204 He's a fighter. 1323 01:14:30,248 --> 01:14:32,511 One of the highlights of travis' career so far 1324 01:14:32,555 --> 01:14:35,166 has been the trial of a man accused of 1325 01:14:35,209 --> 01:14:37,298 all sorts of felony obstruction at the jail. 1326 01:14:37,342 --> 01:14:39,823 In that case, what happened was, 1327 01:14:39,866 --> 01:14:42,434 the client ended up being convicted 1328 01:14:42,478 --> 01:14:44,741 of a misdemeanor affray charge. 1329 01:14:44,784 --> 01:14:47,570 That's a win. We all know that's a win. 1330 01:14:47,613 --> 01:14:49,267 But he didn't stop there. 1331 01:14:49,310 --> 01:14:53,489 Travis appealed the misdemeanor affray charge 1332 01:14:53,532 --> 01:14:55,839 and reversed it on appeal 1333 01:14:55,882 --> 01:14:58,624 and walked his client scot-free. 1334 01:14:58,668 --> 01:15:01,497 That's a public defender, folks. 1335 01:15:03,324 --> 01:15:09,505 So because you are such a good example, 1336 01:15:09,548 --> 01:15:13,552 because you are such an outstanding illustration 1337 01:15:13,596 --> 01:15:15,598 of what it means to be a public defender, 1338 01:15:15,641 --> 01:15:17,904 we decided that, travis williams, 1339 01:15:17,948 --> 01:15:19,558 you, this year, are 1340 01:15:19,602 --> 01:15:21,952 the assistant public defender of the year. 1341 01:15:21,995 --> 01:15:23,475 Come up here and get your award. 1342 01:15:30,613 --> 01:15:32,266 - thank you, mr. dunn. Thank you. 1343 01:15:36,619 --> 01:15:38,185 So much of our job goes unsung, 1344 01:15:38,229 --> 01:15:41,449 and to have any sort of recognition 1345 01:15:41,493 --> 01:15:44,931 is a true honor. 1346 01:15:44,975 --> 01:15:48,239 Just this week, a young client of mine went away to prison, 1347 01:15:48,282 --> 01:15:52,678 and so this award, in some ways, is bittersweet. 1348 01:15:52,722 --> 01:15:54,462 Every day, my goal is to be 1349 01:15:54,506 --> 01:15:56,552 a better man and a better public defender, 1350 01:15:56,595 --> 01:15:58,205 so thank you. 1351 01:16:12,785 --> 01:16:15,875 - the stakes are as high as they could possibly be. 1352 01:16:15,919 --> 01:16:17,660 I mean, we have cases that haunt us. 1353 01:16:17,703 --> 01:16:19,096 This case will haunt me. 1354 01:16:19,139 --> 01:16:21,751 If we--if we lose, it'll haunt me. 1355 01:16:24,144 --> 01:16:26,886 He is a kid, 1356 01:16:26,930 --> 01:16:30,934 and he's facing a lot of time. 1357 01:16:30,977 --> 01:16:32,805 If he's found guilty, 1358 01:16:32,849 --> 01:16:35,460 it will break him. 1359 01:16:35,503 --> 01:16:39,377 Mentally and emotionally, he'll be broken. 1360 01:16:44,687 --> 01:16:47,820 I can't fathom-- I cannot fathom 1361 01:16:47,864 --> 01:16:49,953 turning around to his mother 1362 01:16:49,996 --> 01:16:52,346 after a jury has said guilty, 1363 01:16:52,390 --> 01:16:56,002 and I've told her he's gonna get ten years at least, at minimum. 1364 01:16:57,438 --> 01:16:59,353 She says he's done, like, a complete 180. 1365 01:16:59,397 --> 01:17:00,180 He has a job. 1366 01:17:00,224 --> 01:17:02,443 He's working on his g.e.d. 1367 01:17:02,487 --> 01:17:06,056 Apparently he has this girlfriend, so... 1368 01:17:06,099 --> 01:17:09,668 I think that he's been scared straight, 1369 01:17:09,712 --> 01:17:13,019 assuming he gets a not guilty verdict 1370 01:17:13,063 --> 01:17:15,108 and is allowed to live his life. 1371 01:17:15,152 --> 01:17:17,633 And here's hoping that that's the end result. 1372 01:17:17,676 --> 01:17:20,679 And we don't see happily-ever-afters very much 1373 01:17:20,723 --> 01:17:22,159 in this profession, 1374 01:17:22,202 --> 01:17:25,118 but hopefully we get us a happily-ever-after. 1375 01:17:32,386 --> 01:17:40,307 ♪ 1376 01:18:00,284 --> 01:18:01,807 - all rise. 1377 01:18:01,851 --> 01:18:03,983 The superior court of clayton county is now in session, 1378 01:18:04,027 --> 01:18:05,898 the honorable matthew simmons presiding. 1379 01:18:05,942 --> 01:18:07,726 - good morning. Please be seated. 1380 01:18:11,164 --> 01:18:13,384 Let's bring the jury in. 1381 01:18:18,737 --> 01:18:21,087 All right, members of the jury, good morning. 1382 01:18:21,131 --> 01:18:23,655 At this time, we'll hear opening statements, 1383 01:18:23,699 --> 01:18:26,353 and, uh, miss owens, the state may proceed. 1384 01:18:26,397 --> 01:18:27,790 - ladies and gentlemen, you're here today 1385 01:18:27,833 --> 01:18:31,228 because on december 3, 2010, 1386 01:18:31,271 --> 01:18:34,797 this defendant decided to dress 1387 01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:36,886 in dark clothing, 1388 01:18:36,929 --> 01:18:39,889 enter into a pizza shop that he'd visited many times before 1389 01:18:39,932 --> 01:18:41,717 with a gun-- the testimony will show 1390 01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:44,197 that it's an automatic weapon-- 1391 01:18:44,241 --> 01:18:46,330 and took the money out of the cash register. 1392 01:18:46,373 --> 01:18:50,073 We'll ask that you find this man, demontes wright, 1393 01:18:50,116 --> 01:18:52,423 guilty of all the crimes alleged in the indictment 1394 01:18:52,466 --> 01:18:54,381 which include aggravated assault, 1395 01:18:54,425 --> 01:18:56,079 armed robbery, and possession of a weapon 1396 01:18:56,122 --> 01:18:57,689 during the commission of a crime. 1397 01:18:57,733 --> 01:18:58,951 Thank you. 1398 01:18:58,995 --> 01:19:01,954 - on december 3, 2010, 1399 01:19:01,998 --> 01:19:05,784 young mr. wright was 16 years old. 1400 01:19:05,828 --> 01:19:09,483 16. He was not a man. 1401 01:19:09,527 --> 01:19:11,790 He was a boy. 1402 01:19:11,834 --> 01:19:13,139 And on that day, 1403 01:19:13,183 --> 01:19:16,099 super crown pizza was robbed. 1404 01:19:16,142 --> 01:19:18,536 We don't disagree with that at all. 1405 01:19:18,579 --> 01:19:22,758 It was not young mr. wright that robbed that store. 1406 01:19:22,801 --> 01:19:25,761 Now, let me be very clear. 1407 01:19:25,804 --> 01:19:28,676 We don't have to prove anything in this case. 1408 01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:30,809 We have no burden. 1409 01:19:30,853 --> 01:19:33,681 It's the prosecutor's burden. 1410 01:19:33,725 --> 01:19:35,553 They have to prove beyond 1411 01:19:35,596 --> 01:19:40,732 and to the exclusion of every reasonable doubt 1412 01:19:40,776 --> 01:19:44,431 that that boy 1413 01:19:44,475 --> 01:19:46,869 committed the crimes that they've charged him with. 1414 01:19:46,912 --> 01:19:48,740 It's a high burden. 1415 01:19:48,784 --> 01:19:51,221 Hold them to that burden. 1416 01:19:52,570 --> 01:19:55,138 - the state may call its first witness. 1417 01:19:55,181 --> 01:19:58,141 - the state calls assim sadik. 1418 01:19:58,184 --> 01:20:01,622 Can you tell us what exactly happened? 1419 01:20:10,327 --> 01:20:11,676 - "i was cooking in the back, 1420 01:20:11,719 --> 01:20:13,721 "and then I heard some noise, 1421 01:20:13,765 --> 01:20:14,940 "so I came in front. 1422 01:20:14,984 --> 01:20:17,029 "one man came, 1423 01:20:17,073 --> 01:20:19,162 and he was holding a gun." 1424 01:20:19,205 --> 01:20:21,947 - what was he doing with the gun? 1425 01:20:24,689 --> 01:20:26,909 - "he was--he had pointed it to my brother. 1426 01:20:26,952 --> 01:20:29,868 He asked for money." 1427 01:20:29,912 --> 01:20:31,870 - are you certain the person that you saw that night 1428 01:20:31,914 --> 01:20:34,090 is the same person you see here today? 1429 01:20:39,486 --> 01:20:40,574 - 100%. 1430 01:20:40,618 --> 01:20:41,837 - "yes, yes, 100%." 1431 01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:43,882 He is always around our store, 1432 01:20:43,926 --> 01:20:45,014 so we always see him. 1433 01:20:45,057 --> 01:20:47,451 - thank you. No further questions. 1434 01:20:52,935 --> 01:20:54,501 - you said that young mr. wright 1435 01:20:54,545 --> 01:20:57,417 comes into your pizza parlor regularly. 1436 01:21:01,247 --> 01:21:04,729 yes. 1437 01:21:04,772 --> 01:21:06,209 - we just see his face. 1438 01:21:06,252 --> 01:21:09,995 We don't see admitting in detail what he has or not. 1439 01:21:10,039 --> 01:21:13,956 - okay. Have you ever seen his arms? 1440 01:21:13,999 --> 01:21:16,523 take off the jacket. 1441 01:21:16,567 --> 01:21:21,485 - I don't look at people in that detail. 1442 01:21:21,528 --> 01:21:25,054 - you don't look at--you don't see details with people. 1443 01:21:25,097 --> 01:21:28,840 - it's rude to look at people 1444 01:21:28,884 --> 01:21:32,104 if we look at them in detail like that. 1445 01:21:32,148 --> 01:21:34,802 - okay. 1446 01:21:34,846 --> 01:21:36,413 I'm sorry. I wasn't sure I heard you. 1447 01:21:36,456 --> 01:21:38,067 So I'm just gonna repeat it to make sure. 1448 01:21:38,110 --> 01:21:40,983 You said that it's rude to look directly at people-- 1449 01:21:41,026 --> 01:21:44,943 - it is rude to look at people in detail like this. 1450 01:21:44,987 --> 01:21:46,423 - okay. 1451 01:21:46,466 --> 01:21:49,339 Having seen young mr. wright so many times, 1452 01:21:49,382 --> 01:21:51,036 even though you don't see detail, 1453 01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:54,170 can you say whether or not at any time he wore braces? 1454 01:21:59,175 --> 01:22:01,090 - "no, I don't remember." 1455 01:22:01,133 --> 01:22:04,049 - no further questions, your honor. 1456 01:22:04,093 --> 01:22:05,790 - the witness may step down. 1457 01:22:05,833 --> 01:22:09,054 Members of the jury, we'll take morning recess now. 1458 01:22:09,098 --> 01:22:10,099 Take a 15-minute break, 1459 01:22:10,142 --> 01:22:12,492 then we'll resume. 1460 01:22:12,536 --> 01:22:15,104 - I just don't think it's going very well, 1461 01:22:15,147 --> 01:22:16,366 'cause the--the problem is 1462 01:22:16,409 --> 01:22:18,368 that they were just so sure that it was him 1463 01:22:18,411 --> 01:22:19,804 even though they're like, 1464 01:22:19,847 --> 01:22:21,980 "we don't pay attention to detail, 1465 01:22:22,024 --> 01:22:23,982 "and we don't know what he looked like, 1466 01:22:24,026 --> 01:22:25,636 "if he had the tooth, 1467 01:22:25,679 --> 01:22:27,377 'cause we don't pay attention to that." 1468 01:22:27,420 --> 01:22:30,293 jesus, mary, and joseph. 1469 01:22:30,336 --> 01:22:33,122 I think it's a good thing 1470 01:22:33,165 --> 01:22:35,080 that they don't pay attention to detail, 1471 01:22:35,124 --> 01:22:38,388 but we better pray that your doctor's gonna say 1472 01:22:38,431 --> 01:22:39,737 that you had those tattoos. 1473 01:22:42,218 --> 01:22:44,568 and if he doesn't remember 1474 01:22:44,611 --> 01:22:46,222 whether or not you had 'em, 1475 01:22:46,265 --> 01:22:49,007 that's gonna hurt us, 1476 01:22:49,051 --> 01:22:52,924 because it'll be like, "oh, the doctor doesn't remember. 1477 01:22:52,968 --> 01:22:56,928 "then they can't hold the witnesses to any standard 1478 01:22:56,972 --> 01:22:58,669 if they don't remember." 1479 01:23:06,329 --> 01:23:08,026 Hey, where is your investigator? 1480 01:23:08,070 --> 01:23:09,985 She has her phone going straight to voice mail, 1481 01:23:10,028 --> 01:23:13,031 and I'm in the middle of trial. 1482 01:23:13,075 --> 01:23:14,511 Can you please get ahold of her 1483 01:23:14,554 --> 01:23:17,818 and tell her I need the dentist to send--to bring along 1484 01:23:17,862 --> 01:23:20,299 the picture that he took of demontes wright 1485 01:23:20,343 --> 01:23:22,388 after he took his braces off? 1486 01:23:22,432 --> 01:23:25,217 I've got to run back into court. 1487 01:23:25,261 --> 01:23:29,569 - did you ever learn what type of weapon was used in this case? 1488 01:23:29,613 --> 01:23:31,702 - yes, ma'am, a semiautomatic weapon. 1489 01:23:31,745 --> 01:23:33,138 - okay. 1490 01:23:33,182 --> 01:23:36,837 Can you tell us what exactly is located in that box? 1491 01:23:36,881 --> 01:23:42,843 - it's a .25 auto 50 grain fmj winchester box. 1492 01:23:42,887 --> 01:23:47,109 There's currently 13 bullets full metal jacket 1493 01:23:47,152 --> 01:23:49,154 inside the box. 1494 01:23:49,198 --> 01:23:50,590 - you found those bullets, you say, 1495 01:23:50,634 --> 01:23:52,244 under young mr. wright's bed, correct? 1496 01:23:52,288 --> 01:23:53,854 - that's correct. 1497 01:23:53,898 --> 01:23:55,291 - but you don't know how they got there. 1498 01:23:55,334 --> 01:23:56,857 You don't know who put 'em there. 1499 01:23:56,901 --> 01:23:57,858 - no, ma'am. 1500 01:23:57,902 --> 01:23:59,208 - all automatic weapons 1501 01:23:59,251 --> 01:24:01,688 don't take the same bullets, do they? 1502 01:24:01,732 --> 01:24:02,776 - no, ma'am. 1503 01:24:02,820 --> 01:24:04,343 - so you can't say if those bullets 1504 01:24:04,387 --> 01:24:06,693 go to the gun that was used 1505 01:24:06,737 --> 01:24:09,609 in the robbery at crown plaza pizza? 1506 01:24:09,653 --> 01:24:12,134 - I do not have an exact make and model 1507 01:24:12,177 --> 01:24:13,700 of the weapon that was used. 1508 01:24:13,744 --> 01:24:16,094 All I have is a brief description. 1509 01:24:17,748 --> 01:24:19,097 - correct. 1510 01:24:19,141 --> 01:24:22,274 - okay, you indicated that you didn't take 1511 01:24:22,318 --> 01:24:24,450 any fingerprints in the store. 1512 01:24:24,494 --> 01:24:27,323 - at the time, there was nothing touched 1513 01:24:27,366 --> 01:24:29,673 that the victims had told me. 1514 01:24:29,716 --> 01:24:33,024 And I assumed that there was gloves used 1515 01:24:33,068 --> 01:24:34,286 at that time. 1516 01:24:34,330 --> 01:24:36,027 - you assumed that there were gloves used. 1517 01:24:36,071 --> 01:24:38,247 So when you wrote in your report that gloves were used, 1518 01:24:38,290 --> 01:24:39,987 that wasn't something someone told you; 1519 01:24:40,031 --> 01:24:41,250 that was something you assumed. 1520 01:24:41,293 --> 01:24:42,947 - that there was gloves used, yes. 1521 01:24:42,990 --> 01:24:44,035 - okay. 1522 01:24:44,079 --> 01:24:45,558 Do you often assume things 1523 01:24:45,602 --> 01:24:47,169 and put them in your police report? 1524 01:24:47,212 --> 01:24:48,213 - no. 1525 01:24:48,257 --> 01:24:51,999 - so this was just a onetime thing. 1526 01:24:52,043 --> 01:24:54,176 Do you usually put things in your police report-- 1527 01:24:54,219 --> 01:24:55,612 - no, ma'am. 1528 01:24:55,655 --> 01:24:57,657 - no further questions, your honor. 1529 01:24:59,833 --> 01:25:01,792 - state actually rests at this time. 1530 01:25:02,923 --> 01:25:04,664 - you may call your next witness. 1531 01:25:04,708 --> 01:25:08,320 - the defense would call dr. barry clower. 1532 01:25:08,364 --> 01:25:11,454 Are you familiar with demontes wright? 1533 01:25:11,497 --> 01:25:13,195 - uh, yes, ma'am, I am. 1534 01:25:14,500 --> 01:25:17,677 - he was a patient of mine for 3 1/2 years. 1535 01:25:17,721 --> 01:25:20,158 - I sure did. 1536 01:25:20,202 --> 01:25:22,204 - and can you tell me the exact date that you did that? 1537 01:25:22,247 --> 01:25:26,295 - his treatment started in may of 2007 1538 01:25:26,338 --> 01:25:30,429 and concluded in december of 2010. 1539 01:25:30,473 --> 01:25:33,040 - when you put braces on people, 1540 01:25:33,084 --> 01:25:34,172 do you take a before picture? 1541 01:25:34,216 --> 01:25:35,478 - yes, ma'am. 1542 01:25:35,521 --> 01:25:37,306 - do you take pictures of your patients 1543 01:25:37,349 --> 01:25:39,308 after you've removed their braces? 1544 01:25:39,351 --> 01:25:40,657 - absolutely. 1545 01:25:40,700 --> 01:25:43,225 - is this the picture that you took 1546 01:25:43,268 --> 01:25:44,748 prior to putting the braces on? 1547 01:25:44,791 --> 01:25:46,532 - yes, ma'am, it sure is. 1548 01:25:46,576 --> 01:25:50,319 - and does young mr. wright have a tattoo in that picture? 1549 01:25:50,362 --> 01:25:53,322 - uh, yes, ma'am, both sides of his neck. 1550 01:25:53,365 --> 01:25:57,239 - and is this the picture that you took after 1551 01:25:57,282 --> 01:26:00,503 you removed the braces on december 6, 2010? 1552 01:26:00,546 --> 01:26:01,895 - yes, ma'am, it is. 1553 01:26:01,939 --> 01:26:03,549 - and does he have tattoos in that picture? 1554 01:26:03,593 --> 01:26:05,203 - yes, ma'am. - okay. 1555 01:26:05,247 --> 01:26:07,597 I have no further questions, your honor. 1556 01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:09,251 - no questions from the state. 1557 01:26:09,294 --> 01:26:11,427 - all right, we'll hear closing arguments at this time. 1558 01:26:11,470 --> 01:26:14,212 The state has the right to open and conclude. 1559 01:26:14,256 --> 01:26:16,214 - thank you, your honor. 1560 01:26:16,258 --> 01:26:17,389 Ladies and gentlemen, 1561 01:26:17,433 --> 01:26:18,825 the defense would like you to believe 1562 01:26:18,869 --> 01:26:20,262 this is more complicated than it is. 1563 01:26:20,305 --> 01:26:22,133 This is an open-and-shut case. 1564 01:26:22,177 --> 01:26:25,397 Atif and assim knew who entered into their store. 1565 01:26:25,441 --> 01:26:27,269 They know him. 1566 01:26:27,312 --> 01:26:28,748 It's this man, demontes wright. 1567 01:26:28,792 --> 01:26:31,098 There was a lot of fuss about, 1568 01:26:31,142 --> 01:26:33,579 "oh, these guys don't remember this, that, and the other." 1569 01:26:33,623 --> 01:26:35,842 Well, let's talk about what they do remember. 1570 01:26:35,886 --> 01:26:39,063 They remember that this man entered into their store, 1571 01:26:39,106 --> 01:26:42,501 that throughout the whole entire incident, 1572 01:26:42,545 --> 01:26:48,028 this man had a automatic handgun in their face, 1573 01:26:48,072 --> 01:26:50,509 terrifying them. 1574 01:26:50,553 --> 01:26:52,729 They sat here today 1575 01:26:52,772 --> 01:26:56,254 and said, a whole year later and a new look, 1576 01:26:56,298 --> 01:26:58,604 "that man, demontes wright, 1577 01:26:58,648 --> 01:27:02,260 "is the one who entered my store on december 3rd, 1578 01:27:02,304 --> 01:27:03,522 "stole money from me, 1579 01:27:03,566 --> 01:27:06,221 "put a gun to my head, 1580 01:27:06,264 --> 01:27:09,180 "and waved a gun at my brother 1581 01:27:09,224 --> 01:27:11,138 and took my money." 1582 01:27:11,182 --> 01:27:12,401 Ladies and gentlemen, 1583 01:27:12,444 --> 01:27:13,619 I submit to you that we have in fact 1584 01:27:13,663 --> 01:27:16,448 proved our case beyond a reasonable doubt, 1585 01:27:16,492 --> 01:27:19,930 and I ask you to find this defendant, 1586 01:27:19,973 --> 01:27:22,019 demontes wright, 1587 01:27:22,062 --> 01:27:25,152 guilty of all the crimes in the indictment: 1588 01:27:25,196 --> 01:27:26,502 two counts of armed robbery, 1589 01:27:26,545 --> 01:27:28,286 two counts of aggravated assault, 1590 01:27:28,330 --> 01:27:29,853 and two counts of possession of a weapon 1591 01:27:29,896 --> 01:27:31,289 during the commission of a crime. 1592 01:27:31,333 --> 01:27:32,812 Thank you. 1593 01:27:34,858 --> 01:27:38,644 - I want you to think of the criminal justice system 1594 01:27:38,688 --> 01:27:41,647 as a really long road, okay? 1595 01:27:41,691 --> 01:27:45,347 And at the beginning of that road is a charge, 1596 01:27:45,390 --> 01:27:47,697 where they charge someone with a crime. 1597 01:27:47,740 --> 01:27:52,179 At the end of that road is a conviction. 1598 01:27:52,223 --> 01:27:56,271 Now, before the state can get to the end of that road, 1599 01:27:56,314 --> 01:27:58,882 before the prosecutors can get to that conviction, 1600 01:27:58,925 --> 01:28:02,538 they have a big brick wall in front of 'em. 1601 01:28:02,581 --> 01:28:05,976 That brick wall is called reasonable doubt. 1602 01:28:06,019 --> 01:28:08,979 Atif sadik said a number of things. 1603 01:28:09,022 --> 01:28:10,415 But it's what he didn't say 1604 01:28:10,459 --> 01:28:12,504 that I want you to focus on. 1605 01:28:12,548 --> 01:28:13,810 It's what he didn't remember 1606 01:28:13,853 --> 01:28:16,160 that I want you to focus on. 1607 01:28:16,203 --> 01:28:19,468 What I found really interesting 1608 01:28:19,511 --> 01:28:21,383 is that he said that young mr. wright 1609 01:28:21,426 --> 01:28:23,559 comes in his store three to four times a week 1610 01:28:23,602 --> 01:28:25,082 for the last two years. 1611 01:28:25,125 --> 01:28:28,215 I was an english major. My math is terrible. 1612 01:28:28,259 --> 01:28:30,348 But from what I gathered, 1613 01:28:30,392 --> 01:28:32,350 that's about 342 times 1614 01:28:32,394 --> 01:28:34,396 over the course of two years. 1615 01:28:36,354 --> 01:28:40,402 But he didn't remember whether or not 1616 01:28:40,445 --> 01:28:43,013 he had braces. 1617 01:28:43,056 --> 01:28:46,146 And he didn't remember whether or not he had tattoos. 1618 01:28:48,453 --> 01:28:49,367 I had braces. 1619 01:28:49,411 --> 01:28:50,847 They were terribly embarrassing 1620 01:28:50,890 --> 01:28:52,414 because every time you open your mouth, 1621 01:28:52,457 --> 01:28:55,068 the very first thing that people see 1622 01:28:55,112 --> 01:28:57,680 are those braces. 1623 01:28:57,723 --> 01:28:59,769 And when he's coming in three times a week, 1624 01:28:59,812 --> 01:29:03,381 three to four times a week, for two years, 1625 01:29:03,425 --> 01:29:06,950 you would know that he was wearing braces. 1626 01:29:09,213 --> 01:29:10,780 And since they say 1627 01:29:10,823 --> 01:29:13,260 he didn't always come in with long sleeves, 1628 01:29:13,304 --> 01:29:15,959 they knew that he had tattoos. 1629 01:29:16,002 --> 01:29:18,527 But the person that they described to the police 1630 01:29:18,570 --> 01:29:20,442 did not have braces, 1631 01:29:20,485 --> 01:29:22,531 and he did not have tattoos. 1632 01:29:25,185 --> 01:29:27,753 Reasonable doubt. 1633 01:29:31,409 --> 01:29:33,280 We would ask 1634 01:29:33,324 --> 01:29:37,502 that you find the only just verdict 1635 01:29:37,546 --> 01:29:39,678 of not guilty. 1636 01:29:39,722 --> 01:29:41,419 - members of the jury, 1637 01:29:41,463 --> 01:29:42,768 you may now go to the jury room, 1638 01:29:42,812 --> 01:29:44,204 but do not begin your deliberations 1639 01:29:44,248 --> 01:29:45,989 until you've received the indictment, 1640 01:29:46,032 --> 01:29:48,165 the evidence, and the verdict form. 1641 01:29:48,208 --> 01:29:49,645 Thank you. 1642 01:30:20,502 --> 01:30:22,504 - remain seated. Come to order. 1643 01:30:27,683 --> 01:30:29,685 - would you bring the jury in, please? 1644 01:30:41,653 --> 01:30:43,481 Members of the jury, have you reached a verdict? 1645 01:30:43,525 --> 01:30:44,961 - yes, we did. 1646 01:30:45,004 --> 01:30:47,398 - will you read that verdict to us, please? 1647 01:30:50,401 --> 01:30:52,534 - in the superior court of clayton county, 1648 01:30:52,577 --> 01:30:53,796 state of georgia, 1649 01:30:53,839 --> 01:30:56,451 the state of georgia versus the defendant, 1650 01:30:56,494 --> 01:30:58,670 demontes regary wright, 1651 01:30:58,714 --> 01:31:04,459 case number 2011cr636-8, 1652 01:31:04,502 --> 01:31:07,113 verdict, count number one: 1653 01:31:07,157 --> 01:31:08,854 we, the jury, find the defendant 1654 01:31:08,898 --> 01:31:13,250 not guilty of the offense of aggravated assault. 1655 01:31:13,293 --> 01:31:14,599 Count number two: 1656 01:31:14,643 --> 01:31:16,514 we, the jury, find the defendant 1657 01:31:16,558 --> 01:31:20,779 not guilty of the offense of armed robbery. 1658 01:31:20,823 --> 01:31:22,781 Count number three: 1659 01:31:22,825 --> 01:31:24,696 we, the jury, find the defendant 1660 01:31:24,740 --> 01:31:26,785 not guilty... 1661 01:31:29,962 --> 01:31:32,922 [your hand in mineby explosions in the sky playing] 1662 01:31:36,229 --> 01:31:44,150 ♪ 1663 01:32:19,490 --> 01:32:27,411 ♪ 1664 01:33:00,749 --> 01:33:03,055 ♪ 1665 01:33:03,099 --> 01:33:04,622 - 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