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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:08,055 --> 00:00:11,851 [man] Hey, hey. Hey. Hey, hey. Gentlemen? 2 00:00:13,978 --> 00:00:15,897 [indistinct conversations] 3 00:00:15,938 --> 00:00:17,648 [man] All right? All right. 4 00:00:17,690 --> 00:00:20,234 [man] Glad to have you in Mississippi. 5 00:00:20,276 --> 00:00:22,194 Governor, welcome to Mississippi. 6 00:00:22,236 --> 00:00:23,779 Thank you so much for coming again. 7 00:00:23,821 --> 00:00:27,742 dramatic music 8 00:00:27,783 --> 00:00:32,079 [cheers and applause] 9 00:00:39,545 --> 00:00:41,923 [helicopter blades whirring] 10 00:00:46,802 --> 00:00:52,016 [cheers and applause] 11 00:00:58,439 --> 00:01:01,859 [cheering] 12 00:01:01,901 --> 00:01:03,611 [helicopter blades whirring] 13 00:01:03,653 --> 00:01:06,197 [crowd] R, R, R-E-A. 14 00:01:06,238 --> 00:01:08,908 G, G, G-A-N. 15 00:01:08,950 --> 00:01:11,535 R-E-A, G-A-N. 16 00:01:11,577 --> 00:01:15,122 Reagan, Reagan! Go, Reagan! 17 00:01:20,086 --> 00:01:23,756 [crowd] We vote Reagan! We vote Reagan! 18 00:01:23,798 --> 00:01:27,009 We vote Reagan! We vote Reagan! 19 00:01:27,051 --> 00:01:29,345 [man] This time, it's a real pleasure 20 00:01:29,387 --> 00:01:32,306 to present to you Ronald Reagan. Governor. 21 00:01:32,348 --> 00:01:36,602 [cheers and applause] 22 00:01:36,644 --> 00:01:38,980 [Lopez] In 1980, Ronald Reagan 23 00:01:39,021 --> 00:01:42,441 wins the Republican nomination for President, 24 00:01:42,483 --> 00:01:45,027 and he faces an incredibly important decision-- 25 00:01:45,069 --> 00:01:48,280 how will he introduce himself to the country? 26 00:01:48,322 --> 00:01:51,117 Nancy and I have never seen anything like this, 27 00:01:51,158 --> 00:01:54,328 because there isn't anything like this any more than... 28 00:01:54,370 --> 00:01:56,789 [cheers and applause] 29 00:01:56,831 --> 00:02:00,126 [Lopez] He has a letter from a Southern official 30 00:02:00,167 --> 00:02:03,587 that invites him to come down to Neshoba County 31 00:02:03,629 --> 00:02:06,007 to the county fair there. 32 00:02:06,716 --> 00:02:11,762 Neshoba County was infamous for one reason and one reason only. 33 00:02:11,804 --> 00:02:13,806 [man] This is backwoods Mississippi, 34 00:02:13,848 --> 00:02:15,433 silent and suspicious. 35 00:02:15,474 --> 00:02:18,310 It is hostile country with a hostile attitude 36 00:02:18,352 --> 00:02:20,312 towards civil rights workers. 37 00:02:20,354 --> 00:02:22,106 James Chaney, Andrew Goodman, 38 00:02:22,148 --> 00:02:24,025 and Michael Schwerner went to Mississippi 39 00:02:24,066 --> 00:02:25,985 to help register Negroes as voters. 40 00:02:26,027 --> 00:02:28,112 [man] They have been missing since Sunday. 41 00:02:28,154 --> 00:02:30,740 They've been the focus of a whole country's concern. 42 00:02:30,781 --> 00:02:34,827 [Lopez] 1964, three civil rights workers were kidnapped, 43 00:02:34,869 --> 00:02:38,956 lynched, their bodies stuffed in an earthen dam, 44 00:02:38,998 --> 00:02:41,876 and not found for over a month. 45 00:02:55,264 --> 00:02:58,059 [Lopez] 16 years later, 46 00:02:58,100 --> 00:03:01,103 there wasn't a voter alive in Neshoba County 47 00:03:01,145 --> 00:03:02,646 who hadn't been alive 48 00:03:02,688 --> 00:03:05,483 when those three civil rights workers were killed. 49 00:03:05,524 --> 00:03:07,026 [cheers and applause] 50 00:03:07,068 --> 00:03:10,154 [Wiley] He chose that place to stand up 51 00:03:10,196 --> 00:03:14,533 and look at the white South and say, 52 00:03:14,575 --> 00:03:16,911 "I'm for states' rights." 53 00:03:26,128 --> 00:03:28,339 [Lopez] This phrase, "states' rights," 54 00:03:28,380 --> 00:03:31,383 was prevalent across the South. 55 00:03:31,425 --> 00:03:35,679 We are defending the right of the people of Virginia 56 00:03:35,721 --> 00:03:38,933 and of Alabama to decide some questions for themselves. 57 00:03:38,974 --> 00:03:43,312 Get back to conservative government, state rights. 58 00:03:43,354 --> 00:03:45,564 Not just the saying, "states' rights," 59 00:03:45,606 --> 00:03:47,942 but the real meaning of states' rights. 60 00:03:47,983 --> 00:03:51,904 "States' rights" has always in the South meant 61 00:03:51,946 --> 00:03:55,032 the North can't tell us what to do about race. 62 00:03:55,074 --> 00:03:59,161 And the federal government can't tell us 63 00:03:59,203 --> 00:04:01,038 that Black people are equal. 64 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,375 It cannot tell us to integrate our schools. 65 00:04:04,416 --> 00:04:07,586 It was a flat out signal to an old South 66 00:04:07,628 --> 00:04:11,215 that thought the Civil War was not over. 67 00:04:11,257 --> 00:04:13,551 [woman] The real purpose of Reagan's trip is a speech 68 00:04:13,592 --> 00:04:17,179 to the Urban League in New York tomorrow on Black unemployment. 69 00:04:17,221 --> 00:04:19,181 In Mississippi, it was difficult to find 70 00:04:19,223 --> 00:04:21,642 a Black face in the crowd. 71 00:04:21,684 --> 00:04:23,769 [Johnson] He is saying to white America, 72 00:04:23,811 --> 00:04:25,312 "You can trust me. 73 00:04:25,354 --> 00:04:28,566 "You can trust me to make sure that the forces of change 74 00:04:28,607 --> 00:04:32,444 in civil rights and equality will not affect your life," 75 00:04:32,486 --> 00:04:35,239 and he received little or no criticism for that. 76 00:04:35,281 --> 00:04:37,867 It's one of the reasons Reagan's record on race 77 00:04:37,908 --> 00:04:39,952 has not been sufficiently examined, 78 00:04:39,994 --> 00:04:42,746 and we're suffering for the consequences to that today. 79 00:04:47,251 --> 00:04:48,878 Our guest today on Meet The Press 80 00:04:48,919 --> 00:04:51,589 is screen and television actor, Ronald Reagan, 81 00:04:51,630 --> 00:04:53,215 who this week announced he would seek 82 00:04:53,257 --> 00:04:56,844 the Republican nomination for Governor of California. 83 00:04:56,886 --> 00:04:58,053 We've reached a period 84 00:04:58,095 --> 00:04:59,597 in which the philosophical differences 85 00:04:59,638 --> 00:05:02,474 between the two parties are so great 86 00:05:02,516 --> 00:05:05,394 that it's high time that more people from the rank and file 87 00:05:05,436 --> 00:05:08,272 of the citizenry involve themselves 88 00:05:08,314 --> 00:05:11,692 so that we can have government that's of and by 89 00:05:11,734 --> 00:05:13,402 as well as for the people. 90 00:05:13,444 --> 00:05:16,238 [Lopez] Ronald Reagan developed the political persona 91 00:05:16,280 --> 00:05:19,116 that we know in the 1960s. 92 00:05:19,158 --> 00:05:20,492 [crowd cheering] 93 00:05:20,534 --> 00:05:22,995 [male reporter] It is not always possible to tell the real 94 00:05:23,037 --> 00:05:26,707 from the unreal, the actual from the artificial, 95 00:05:26,749 --> 00:05:28,417 truth from fiction. 96 00:05:28,459 --> 00:05:31,128 Just so you all know, what you have been watching 97 00:05:31,170 --> 00:05:33,255 is a Hollywood movie premiere. 98 00:05:33,297 --> 00:05:37,468 What you are about to see is a California political campaign. 99 00:05:37,509 --> 00:05:41,555 [marching band music playing] 100 00:05:44,433 --> 00:05:47,269 [klaxon horn honking] 101 00:05:49,647 --> 00:05:50,940 [horn honks] 102 00:05:52,441 --> 00:05:54,860 [Ron Jr.] When he began his political career, 103 00:05:54,902 --> 00:05:56,278 I remember him saying that, 104 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:58,072 well, he didn't know about running 105 00:05:58,113 --> 00:05:59,573 for Governor of California, 106 00:05:59,615 --> 00:06:02,493 but he would go out and make some speeches. 107 00:06:02,534 --> 00:06:04,036 [applause] 108 00:06:04,078 --> 00:06:07,414 He would judge the audience reaction to that. 109 00:06:09,041 --> 00:06:12,920 And if the audience seemed to want him to run 110 00:06:12,962 --> 00:06:14,713 for Governor of California, 111 00:06:14,755 --> 00:06:19,134 well, then, sure he wouldn't-- he wouldn't let them down. 112 00:06:19,176 --> 00:06:21,637 For a long time, America sophisticates 113 00:06:21,679 --> 00:06:23,222 couldn't take Ronald Reagan seriously. 114 00:06:23,264 --> 00:06:26,058 As an actor, he had seemed corny to them. 115 00:06:26,100 --> 00:06:28,519 And remember, Boraxo Powdered Hand Soap. 116 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,562 [man] As a politician, he seemed improbable. 117 00:06:30,604 --> 00:06:33,816 [man] Ronald Reagan has played many roles. 118 00:06:33,857 --> 00:06:36,068 This year, he wants to play governor. 119 00:06:36,110 --> 00:06:38,112 [Brown] You know, I'm running against an actor. 120 00:06:38,153 --> 00:06:40,406 No shot at Abraham Lincoln, don't you think? 121 00:06:40,447 --> 00:06:41,407 [laughter] 122 00:06:41,448 --> 00:06:44,034 You know, the press just love to call him 123 00:06:44,076 --> 00:06:47,454 a fading actor or "B" actor, 124 00:06:47,496 --> 00:06:49,790 and that upset him. 125 00:06:49,832 --> 00:06:51,458 [Ronald] The manner in which the other team 126 00:06:51,500 --> 00:06:54,420 has been campaigning, it's time that some people 127 00:06:54,461 --> 00:06:56,672 are reminded that actors are people. 128 00:06:56,714 --> 00:06:58,632 [Nancy] Decision to run for Governor-- 129 00:06:58,674 --> 00:07:01,927 that was a mutual decision that we both, 130 00:07:01,969 --> 00:07:05,889 um, spent a couple of very sleepless nights over. 131 00:07:05,931 --> 00:07:07,850 My wife, Nancy. 132 00:07:07,891 --> 00:07:10,561 [Nancy] That meant a major change in our lives. 133 00:07:10,602 --> 00:07:12,688 It had to be a mutual decision. 134 00:07:12,730 --> 00:07:15,107 [Ron Jr.] When my parents entered politics, 135 00:07:15,149 --> 00:07:17,318 the whole new cast of characters arrived. 136 00:07:17,359 --> 00:07:19,903 I was used to, you know, Jimmy Cagney 137 00:07:19,945 --> 00:07:21,488 coming over around Christmas. 138 00:07:21,530 --> 00:07:24,408 But now there's this whole political crowd, 139 00:07:24,450 --> 00:07:27,536 new kind of money people. 140 00:07:27,578 --> 00:07:30,581 That was a new social circle for them. 141 00:07:30,622 --> 00:07:33,625 My mother was much more socially focused 142 00:07:33,667 --> 00:07:36,670 and acutely focused than my father was. 143 00:07:36,712 --> 00:07:38,464 She understood the value 144 00:07:38,505 --> 00:07:40,424 of having wealthy, powerful friends. 145 00:07:40,466 --> 00:07:42,885 And she was much more involved 146 00:07:42,926 --> 00:07:45,095 in cultivating those friendships. 147 00:07:45,137 --> 00:07:46,889 [Nancy] Thank you all for your work. 148 00:07:46,930 --> 00:07:49,933 Both my husband and I appreciate it. 149 00:07:49,975 --> 00:07:53,771 Reagan was running for Governor against Pat Brown... 150 00:07:53,812 --> 00:07:54,813 [crowd cheering] 151 00:07:54,855 --> 00:07:57,024 And he was a liberal New Deal politician. 152 00:07:57,066 --> 00:08:02,529 Brown created this tremendous infrastructure in California. 153 00:08:02,571 --> 00:08:06,784 Ordinary folks wondered, "Why are my taxes going up?" 154 00:08:06,825 --> 00:08:09,787 And there's Ronnie Reagan ready to take advantage of it. 155 00:08:09,828 --> 00:08:13,248 He's been singing this song about big government, 156 00:08:13,290 --> 00:08:14,792 and it plays well. 157 00:08:14,833 --> 00:08:16,794 You know, for a number of years, 158 00:08:16,835 --> 00:08:19,505 I have been protesting the growth of government. 159 00:08:19,546 --> 00:08:21,507 We have increased our population 18%. 160 00:08:21,548 --> 00:08:25,761 We've increased the number of recipients of welfare 49%. 161 00:08:25,803 --> 00:08:29,681 At that time, conservatism was very much on the fringes 162 00:08:29,723 --> 00:08:30,849 of American politics. 163 00:08:30,891 --> 00:08:33,852 Remember, Ronald Reagan campaigned 164 00:08:33,894 --> 00:08:36,355 for Goldwater in 1964. 165 00:08:36,397 --> 00:08:37,940 Barry Goldwater stood 166 00:08:37,981 --> 00:08:39,441 in the middle of what was happening in America, 167 00:08:39,483 --> 00:08:41,402 and it was still screaming segregation forever. 168 00:08:41,443 --> 00:08:44,196 So for Reagan to attach himself so comfortably 169 00:08:44,238 --> 00:08:46,490 was a sign of where he wanted to go long term. 170 00:08:46,532 --> 00:08:49,952 Governor Brown also called you a party crasher this morning. 171 00:08:49,993 --> 00:08:51,245 - I know. - Said that you're not in 172 00:08:51,286 --> 00:08:55,457 the, uh, progressive Republican side of your party. 173 00:08:55,499 --> 00:08:56,792 Well... 174 00:08:56,834 --> 00:09:00,754 [man] He's called federal aid education a tool of tyranny. 175 00:09:00,796 --> 00:09:02,965 [Brown] He opposed Social Security. 176 00:09:03,006 --> 00:09:05,300 He wanted to make it voluntary. 177 00:09:05,342 --> 00:09:07,302 On the Redwoods, he feels that we have enough 178 00:09:07,344 --> 00:09:09,555 of the natural resources of our state. 179 00:09:09,596 --> 00:09:12,474 These are all taken from speeches that he's made 180 00:09:12,516 --> 00:09:14,852 either recently or during the past four or five years. 181 00:09:14,893 --> 00:09:19,690 I think his refusal to denounce the John Birch Society 182 00:09:19,731 --> 00:09:22,025 as almost every other Republican leader 183 00:09:22,067 --> 00:09:23,569 in the United States has done, 184 00:09:23,610 --> 00:09:26,405 I think all of these things indicate a philosophy 185 00:09:26,447 --> 00:09:30,200 that would be very dangerous to the people of our state. 186 00:09:30,242 --> 00:09:33,328 The John Birch Society was this fringe group 187 00:09:33,370 --> 00:09:37,291 that believed in all sorts of conspiracy theories, 188 00:09:37,332 --> 00:09:39,710 some of them anti-communist, some of them are just 189 00:09:39,751 --> 00:09:42,838 absolutely absurd fluoride in the water 190 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,300 being intentionally put there to dumb down American voters, 191 00:09:46,341 --> 00:09:48,719 concentration camps in Alaska. 192 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:52,014 Most of the membership came out of the Republican Party, 193 00:09:52,055 --> 00:09:55,559 and it was a problem for Republicans. 194 00:09:55,601 --> 00:09:58,061 For a political operative like Stu Spencer, 195 00:09:58,103 --> 00:10:02,649 his fear was that Reagan had gotten ahold of a bad script, 196 00:10:02,691 --> 00:10:04,610 and that bad script could be supplied 197 00:10:04,651 --> 00:10:07,070 by the John Birch Society, 198 00:10:07,112 --> 00:10:10,991 because some things are apropos to talk about 199 00:10:11,033 --> 00:10:13,243 and some things not. 200 00:10:13,285 --> 00:10:16,497 [Lopez] They also had a very strong strain 201 00:10:16,538 --> 00:10:18,415 of anti-Black racism. 202 00:10:18,457 --> 00:10:21,710 [Wiley] There was a concerted far right effort 203 00:10:21,752 --> 00:10:25,422 to undermine the legitimacy of the civil rights movement 204 00:10:25,464 --> 00:10:27,090 and the demands for equality 205 00:10:27,132 --> 00:10:31,887 that included even attacking Martin Luther King, Jr. 206 00:10:31,929 --> 00:10:36,642 as a communist even though he wasn't. 207 00:10:36,683 --> 00:10:39,645 One of the things that happened in this country 208 00:10:39,686 --> 00:10:43,106 as a result of winning passage of civil rights 209 00:10:43,148 --> 00:10:47,861 was literally a fracturing of what white politics had been. 210 00:10:47,903 --> 00:10:51,156 The arc of the moral universe is long, 211 00:10:51,198 --> 00:10:53,075 but it bends toward justice. 212 00:10:53,116 --> 00:10:57,204 [Wiley] You have people who left the Democratic Party 213 00:10:57,246 --> 00:10:59,289 and became Republicans 214 00:10:59,331 --> 00:11:02,334 because of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. 215 00:11:02,376 --> 00:11:05,921 [Ronald] I spent most of my life as a Democrat, 216 00:11:05,963 --> 00:11:08,173 and I recall very well 217 00:11:08,215 --> 00:11:11,385 when the moment came to change and to re-register, 218 00:11:11,426 --> 00:11:14,012 when the leadership of the Democratic party 219 00:11:14,054 --> 00:11:16,306 repudiated the constitutional concepts 220 00:11:16,348 --> 00:11:18,725 of individual freedom and local autonomy, 221 00:11:18,767 --> 00:11:20,102 and states' rights, 222 00:11:20,143 --> 00:11:21,436 and the little intellectual elite 223 00:11:21,478 --> 00:11:25,857 in the nation's capital can engage in social tinkering, 224 00:11:25,899 --> 00:11:28,735 then I say to you, you didn't leave your party. 225 00:11:28,777 --> 00:11:31,405 The leadership of that party left you. 226 00:11:31,446 --> 00:11:36,743 [cheers and applause] 227 00:11:43,458 --> 00:11:45,460 [man] White America watches in horror 228 00:11:45,502 --> 00:11:48,338 as the people of Watts, California, riot, 229 00:11:48,380 --> 00:11:51,800 crying, "Burn, baby, burn." 230 00:11:51,842 --> 00:11:53,510 [man] It began with the arrest by white officers 231 00:11:53,552 --> 00:11:56,138 of the California Highway Patrol of two young Negroes. 232 00:11:56,179 --> 00:11:58,307 There was an argument. There was a scuffle. 233 00:11:58,348 --> 00:12:00,267 By then, a crowd of several hundred Negroes had gathered, 234 00:12:00,309 --> 00:12:02,811 and the story of police brutality 235 00:12:02,853 --> 00:12:04,646 quickly spread through the community. 236 00:12:04,688 --> 00:12:07,024 [officer] Put your hands up. 237 00:12:07,065 --> 00:12:08,650 -Get them up. -Get your hands up. 238 00:12:08,692 --> 00:12:11,028 [Wiley] The Watts uprising was very much 239 00:12:11,069 --> 00:12:12,946 an expression of pain and anger 240 00:12:12,988 --> 00:12:16,158 at the failure of society to recognize 241 00:12:16,199 --> 00:12:20,245 what Black people had been asking for for generations, 242 00:12:20,287 --> 00:12:22,080 which was a fair shot 243 00:12:22,122 --> 00:12:24,374 at being able to support yourself and your family. 244 00:12:24,416 --> 00:12:28,295 It was also very frightening for people who were white. 245 00:12:28,337 --> 00:12:31,089 It was the notion that, 246 00:12:31,131 --> 00:12:33,717 "This could spill over into my community." 247 00:12:33,759 --> 00:12:36,678 And so it's very easy for Ronald Reagan then 248 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,306 to come in and manipulate that fear. 249 00:12:39,348 --> 00:12:41,350 California also leads in some things 250 00:12:41,391 --> 00:12:45,270 that unfortunately give us no sense of pride. 251 00:12:45,312 --> 00:12:48,690 The only thing that's gone up more than spending is crime. 252 00:12:48,732 --> 00:12:51,109 Our city streets are jungle paths after dark. 253 00:12:51,151 --> 00:12:55,197 [Lopez] Reagan used the term "jungle paths" to talk about 254 00:12:55,238 --> 00:12:59,117 the areas in our cities populated by African Americans. 255 00:12:59,159 --> 00:13:02,663 This was a way to trigger racist stereotypes. 256 00:13:02,704 --> 00:13:07,334 He used these terms that hearkened back to Africa. 257 00:13:07,376 --> 00:13:10,253 [Ronald] The jungle is closing in on this little patch 258 00:13:10,295 --> 00:13:13,215 that we have been civilizing for so long a time. 259 00:13:13,256 --> 00:13:16,551 [Shearer] Reagan is in effect saying, 260 00:13:16,593 --> 00:13:19,680 "These are people who are breaking the law, 261 00:13:19,721 --> 00:13:22,432 and I will protect you against them." 262 00:13:22,474 --> 00:13:24,017 We need law and order, 263 00:13:24,059 --> 00:13:27,646 and that's exactly what Reagan campaigned on. 264 00:13:27,688 --> 00:13:30,440 You wanted law and order in this town. You got it. 265 00:13:30,482 --> 00:13:31,983 [gunshot] 266 00:13:32,025 --> 00:13:34,695 When white people heard "law and order," 267 00:13:34,736 --> 00:13:36,113 they heard him saying, 268 00:13:36,154 --> 00:13:38,031 "I am going to stop the hordes of liberals 269 00:13:38,073 --> 00:13:40,659 and Black and brown people from invading your neighborhood." 270 00:13:40,701 --> 00:13:44,621 [Wiley] They bring violence. They bring crime. 271 00:13:44,663 --> 00:13:47,582 All of those are deeply imbedded stereotypes 272 00:13:47,624 --> 00:13:52,879 that get played out in that tough-on-crime stance. 273 00:13:52,921 --> 00:13:54,589 patriotic music 274 00:13:54,631 --> 00:13:57,801 [Lopez] In 1966, it's no longer acceptable 275 00:13:57,843 --> 00:14:03,140 for a political figure to use explicitly racist terms. 276 00:14:03,181 --> 00:14:07,728 So a new language developed, and Ronald Reagan was a pioneer. 277 00:14:07,769 --> 00:14:10,564 It was a language that allowed people 278 00:14:10,605 --> 00:14:13,734 to oppose integration on a principle 279 00:14:13,775 --> 00:14:17,863 that supposedly had nothing to do with race. 280 00:14:18,989 --> 00:14:20,615 That's what dog whistle politics is. 281 00:14:20,657 --> 00:14:24,494 The use of coded language to trigger 282 00:14:24,536 --> 00:14:26,747 unacceptable social hatreds 283 00:14:26,788 --> 00:14:29,541 while pretending that's not what you're doing. 284 00:14:29,583 --> 00:14:31,668 Reagan can turn around and say, "Me? 285 00:14:31,710 --> 00:14:33,503 I didn't say anything about race. 286 00:14:33,545 --> 00:14:36,923 I just mentioned people commit crimes, 287 00:14:36,965 --> 00:14:39,050 gangs, inner cities, 288 00:14:39,092 --> 00:14:41,845 a pathological culture, no respect for work, 289 00:14:41,887 --> 00:14:45,766 jungle paths, nothing about race there at all." 290 00:14:45,807 --> 00:14:49,770 [helicopter blades whirring] 291 00:14:49,811 --> 00:14:51,688 [man] Do you think the Fair Housing Act in California 292 00:14:51,730 --> 00:14:54,232 is an ineffective or a bad method 293 00:14:54,274 --> 00:14:55,525 of assuring open housing? 294 00:14:55,567 --> 00:15:00,530 It runs the risk of by President giving to government a power 295 00:15:00,572 --> 00:15:02,699 that government should not have, 296 00:15:02,741 --> 00:15:05,202 and this is the infringement on the right 297 00:15:05,243 --> 00:15:08,914 of the individual to private possessions 298 00:15:08,955 --> 00:15:12,501 and the control ownership of those possessions. 299 00:15:12,542 --> 00:15:14,920 When he ran for Governor, fair housing 300 00:15:14,961 --> 00:15:18,215 anti-discrimination was a big issue. 301 00:15:18,256 --> 00:15:20,509 classical cello music 302 00:15:20,550 --> 00:15:25,514 You have to remember in the '50s you could not sell your house 303 00:15:25,555 --> 00:15:27,891 to a Black person. 304 00:15:27,933 --> 00:15:29,643 This wasn't your private choice. 305 00:15:29,684 --> 00:15:31,812 This was imposed upon you 306 00:15:31,853 --> 00:15:34,689 by the entire real estate industry. 307 00:15:34,731 --> 00:15:37,776 Under federal housing programs, 308 00:15:37,818 --> 00:15:40,862 banks would not loan to African Americans 309 00:15:40,904 --> 00:15:45,075 if they tried to live in white neighborhoods. 310 00:15:45,116 --> 00:15:48,286 This was legalized segregation. 311 00:15:48,328 --> 00:15:49,913 [woman] Everybody that lives here has been hassling me. 312 00:15:49,955 --> 00:15:51,081 [man] Why? 313 00:15:51,122 --> 00:15:53,208 Because you're not safe walking the streets at night. 314 00:15:53,250 --> 00:15:54,668 You cannot leave the house. 315 00:15:54,709 --> 00:15:59,047 The people were frightened to death of integration. 316 00:15:59,089 --> 00:16:01,883 They thought, "This will hurt our schools. 317 00:16:01,925 --> 00:16:03,176 It'll make our neighborhood unsafe. 318 00:16:03,218 --> 00:16:06,221 Therefore the only thing I have in value in this world, 319 00:16:06,263 --> 00:16:10,976 my house, will lose its value." It was the hottest issue. 320 00:16:11,017 --> 00:16:13,478 Will you lose your neighborhood? That was it. 321 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:17,732 [Lopez] While campaigning, Reagan would say, 322 00:16:17,774 --> 00:16:19,025 "I'm against prejudice, 323 00:16:19,067 --> 00:16:21,194 but I also support property rights." 324 00:16:21,236 --> 00:16:24,322 And one of the inherent rights of property 325 00:16:24,364 --> 00:16:28,493 is the right to dispose of it any way a person sees fit, 326 00:16:28,535 --> 00:16:32,622 even if that meant not selling to African Americans. 327 00:16:32,664 --> 00:16:34,749 That's a classic dog whistle. 328 00:16:34,791 --> 00:16:38,003 [Ronald] I do not believe that we can without in seriously 329 00:16:38,044 --> 00:16:41,882 endangering our basic freedoms, that we can violate 330 00:16:41,923 --> 00:16:45,176 this constitutional right of the individual. 331 00:16:45,218 --> 00:16:49,347 But I myself, I'll tell you now, do not subscribe to it. 332 00:16:49,389 --> 00:16:52,392 I'm willing to sell my house. A matter of fact 333 00:16:52,434 --> 00:16:54,436 if there's anyone listening wants to buy to a farm, 334 00:16:54,477 --> 00:16:57,397 I've got a farm for sale right now. 335 00:16:57,439 --> 00:17:00,901 [Derek] In effect, Reagan's definition of freedom 336 00:17:00,942 --> 00:17:04,988 included the so-called freedom to discriminate. 337 00:17:05,030 --> 00:17:06,323 [crowd cheering] 338 00:17:06,364 --> 00:17:10,410 [Wiley] He understood that there were many white voters 339 00:17:10,452 --> 00:17:14,831 in California who, because of racial integration, 340 00:17:14,873 --> 00:17:18,126 did not want to see their lives changed. 341 00:17:18,168 --> 00:17:21,922 He's sounding a message that has appeal-- 342 00:17:21,963 --> 00:17:26,676 "I warned people that this actor's gonna defeat Pat Brown," 343 00:17:26,718 --> 00:17:29,262 and it turned out to be true. 344 00:17:29,304 --> 00:17:32,182 Place your left hand upon the Bible 345 00:17:32,223 --> 00:17:34,351 and raise your right hand. 346 00:17:34,392 --> 00:17:37,437 [Lopez] Reagan had demonstrated that racial resentment 347 00:17:37,479 --> 00:17:41,024 wasn't confined to the white supremacist South. 348 00:17:41,066 --> 00:17:45,570 Even in California you could use race as way to win votes. 349 00:17:45,612 --> 00:17:48,782 dramatic music 350 00:17:48,823 --> 00:17:52,827 My native country, thee 351 00:17:52,869 --> 00:17:57,332 Land of the noble free 352 00:17:57,374 --> 00:18:02,462 Thy name I love 353 00:18:02,504 --> 00:18:05,840 casual xylophone jazz music 354 00:18:05,882 --> 00:18:08,218 [indistinct conversations] 355 00:18:08,259 --> 00:18:09,761 [Nancy] Mr. and Mrs. Deacon Anderson. 356 00:18:09,803 --> 00:18:11,221 -Mr. Reagan, Mrs. Kent. -[woman] Hello, 357 00:18:11,262 --> 00:18:13,348 -Hello, Reagan. -From Carmel. 358 00:18:13,390 --> 00:18:14,474 -Good to see you. Hello. -Hello there. Oh! 359 00:18:14,516 --> 00:18:15,809 -Oh, my friend. -A pleasure. 360 00:18:15,850 --> 00:18:17,477 Oh, yes, your friend, your dearest friend. 361 00:18:17,519 --> 00:18:19,020 How are you? It's nice that you can be here. 362 00:18:19,062 --> 00:18:20,563 Oh, we're so thrilled to be here. 363 00:18:20,605 --> 00:18:22,399 -Nice to see you. -Hello. 364 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,860 [Kelley] When Nancy became First Lady of California, 365 00:18:25,902 --> 00:18:28,029 first of all, she was fit to be tied 366 00:18:28,071 --> 00:18:32,617 to have to leave Beverly Hills and go to Sacramento. 367 00:18:32,659 --> 00:18:36,746 I mean, she loved the fact that Ronnie was governor 368 00:18:36,788 --> 00:18:40,750 but Sacramento? No, she did not like that at all. 369 00:18:42,585 --> 00:18:44,129 [Ron Jr.] The original Governor's mansion 370 00:18:44,170 --> 00:18:47,674 was this Victorian wedding cake of a place, 371 00:18:47,716 --> 00:18:50,927 this four-story thing with the cupola on top and, you know, 372 00:18:50,969 --> 00:18:55,140 all these stairways and rooms that were never used, 373 00:18:55,181 --> 00:18:58,893 so you could spend a lot of time exploring this big house. 374 00:18:58,935 --> 00:19:00,895 It was kind of cool for a little kid, 375 00:19:00,937 --> 00:19:04,733 but on the other hand, it was right downtown, 376 00:19:04,774 --> 00:19:07,193 with a motel and two gas stations 377 00:19:07,235 --> 00:19:08,403 on the other corner. 378 00:19:08,445 --> 00:19:10,697 [man] Nancy shows some other governors' wives 379 00:19:10,739 --> 00:19:12,532 California's Governor's Mansion. 380 00:19:12,574 --> 00:19:15,618 -[Nancy] Quite a busy street. -[woman] I should say so. 381 00:19:15,660 --> 00:19:18,246 All the freeway traffic comes here. 382 00:19:18,288 --> 00:19:20,623 -There's no grounds around. -[Nancy] No. 383 00:19:20,665 --> 00:19:22,208 It's unfortunate. 384 00:19:22,250 --> 00:19:24,961 It's--It's just gotten surrounded by the city. 385 00:19:25,003 --> 00:19:25,920 [woman] Yeah. 386 00:19:25,962 --> 00:19:27,630 [Nancy] It's lovely to look at, 387 00:19:27,672 --> 00:19:29,674 but it really does need some paint, doesn't it? 388 00:19:29,716 --> 00:19:34,137 intriguing orchestral music 389 00:19:34,179 --> 00:19:40,018 There the jelly beans. [laughs] Ronnie loves jelly beans. 390 00:19:40,060 --> 00:19:42,270 [woman] Is this your son's decision? 391 00:19:42,312 --> 00:19:44,898 -Oh, this is my husband. -Oh, your husband? 392 00:19:44,939 --> 00:19:46,900 When I said Ronnie, I meant big Ronnie. 393 00:19:46,941 --> 00:19:48,485 [laughter] 394 00:19:48,526 --> 00:19:50,862 [Spencer] When she and I went out to see the mansion 395 00:19:50,904 --> 00:19:52,614 for the first time, 396 00:19:52,655 --> 00:19:56,284 they had ropes on the second story over fire escapes. 397 00:19:56,326 --> 00:19:59,954 They had two young kids at the time, 398 00:19:59,996 --> 00:20:03,291 and she looks at me and she just, 399 00:20:03,333 --> 00:20:06,419 "I'm not living there." [laughs] 400 00:20:06,461 --> 00:20:09,089 [Nancy] Don't you find every governor's wife 401 00:20:09,130 --> 00:20:11,674 and every governor that I've ever talked to, 402 00:20:11,716 --> 00:20:13,384 they want a home. 403 00:20:13,426 --> 00:20:17,222 They don't want to be there. All day they're in downtown, 404 00:20:17,263 --> 00:20:19,057 but... -They really do need it. 405 00:20:19,099 --> 00:20:21,559 The job itself, just you really need someplace 406 00:20:21,601 --> 00:20:23,645 to get away from it all. -[Nancy] Yes, you do. 407 00:20:23,686 --> 00:20:25,563 [traffic light clicks] 408 00:20:25,605 --> 00:20:28,733 [Kelley] She really made quite a scene about it 409 00:20:28,775 --> 00:20:30,652 and said she wouldn't live there. 410 00:20:30,693 --> 00:20:32,821 Well, if she wasn't gonna live in it, 411 00:20:32,862 --> 00:20:34,823 the governor wasn't gonna live in it. 412 00:20:34,864 --> 00:20:37,283 [Nancy] Something should've been done a long, long time ago, 413 00:20:37,325 --> 00:20:40,370 and it's awful that the governor of the largest state 414 00:20:40,411 --> 00:20:43,456 is scrounging around trying to find a place to live? 415 00:20:43,498 --> 00:20:45,583 Whoever heard of anything like that? 416 00:20:45,625 --> 00:20:48,253 Uh, really, isn't it disgraceful? 417 00:20:48,294 --> 00:20:49,796 Uh, I don't know about that. [ chuckles ] 418 00:20:49,838 --> 00:20:52,715 [laughs] I can't get you to commit yourself. 419 00:20:52,757 --> 00:20:54,467 [laughter] 420 00:20:54,509 --> 00:20:57,595 [Kelley] The Kitchen Cabinet bought a large house 421 00:20:57,637 --> 00:21:01,182 for the Reagans in a better part of town. 422 00:21:01,224 --> 00:21:04,352 Nancy felt much more comfortable moving there, 423 00:21:04,394 --> 00:21:06,604 and that's what they did. 424 00:21:10,650 --> 00:21:12,152 Well, I was very happy as a kid 425 00:21:12,193 --> 00:21:14,571 when they moved to a quieter neighborhood. 426 00:21:15,655 --> 00:21:17,991 Nice house with a pool and, you know, 427 00:21:18,032 --> 00:21:21,286 big yard and trees to climb and all the rest of that. 428 00:21:21,327 --> 00:21:24,247 I thought this is-- this is a vast improvement. 429 00:21:24,289 --> 00:21:25,790 [laughs] 430 00:21:25,832 --> 00:21:27,750 [man] In 1969, a group of Governor Reagan's friends 431 00:21:27,792 --> 00:21:29,210 bought the present mansion. 432 00:21:29,252 --> 00:21:32,755 They charged the governor $15,000 a year until this year 433 00:21:32,797 --> 00:21:35,758 when the legislature agreed to pick up the rent. 434 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:37,510 [man] $15,000 does sound like a lot of money in rent. 435 00:21:37,552 --> 00:21:40,180 It sure does. It is a lot of money in rent. 436 00:21:40,221 --> 00:21:41,639 [man] I just was wondering more if 437 00:21:41,681 --> 00:21:42,974 it would've costed you more to have actually 438 00:21:43,016 --> 00:21:45,602 bought the house and paid it off at that rate. 439 00:21:45,643 --> 00:21:47,437 I'm not very good at arithmetic. I don't know, 440 00:21:47,478 --> 00:21:51,441 but I just know we-- we, uh, we couldn't afford 441 00:21:51,482 --> 00:21:55,987 to--to buy a house, no, really, shouldn't be asked to, actually. 442 00:21:56,029 --> 00:21:58,781 As I say, the state is supposed to provide 443 00:21:58,823 --> 00:22:02,660 living quarters for the governor. 444 00:22:04,078 --> 00:22:05,622 [woman] Mrs. Reagan thinks 445 00:22:05,663 --> 00:22:07,999 that both the state capital and the Governor's Mansion 446 00:22:08,041 --> 00:22:10,960 should be points of pride for California residents. 447 00:22:11,002 --> 00:22:13,588 And what Mrs. Reagan has started as attempts to beautify 448 00:22:13,630 --> 00:22:17,800 the mansion have perhaps turned into political issues. 449 00:22:17,842 --> 00:22:19,469 Can I walk in front of you? 450 00:22:19,510 --> 00:22:24,724 [Ron Jr.] My mother--she was used to Hollywood kind of PR, 451 00:22:24,766 --> 00:22:27,268 where, you know, for the most part, 452 00:22:27,310 --> 00:22:30,855 everybody's there to kind of boost you, you know. 453 00:22:30,897 --> 00:22:33,900 Now it seemed like everybody was there to tear you down. 454 00:22:33,942 --> 00:22:38,154 [Nancy] I don't like viciousness and, um, uh, 455 00:22:38,196 --> 00:22:42,283 it's wrong, and that's why politics has the bad name 456 00:22:42,325 --> 00:22:45,620 it has and, uh, that's why it's very difficult 457 00:22:45,662 --> 00:22:48,122 to get good men to go into politics. 458 00:22:48,164 --> 00:22:49,582 It's very, very hard, 459 00:22:49,624 --> 00:22:52,877 and the people are the losers. [sighs] 460 00:22:52,919 --> 00:22:56,089 Nancy Reagan had had a bit of an introduction 461 00:22:56,130 --> 00:23:00,426 to press coverage with the Governor's Mansion 462 00:23:00,468 --> 00:23:04,889 that the Joan Didion piece for The Saturday Evening Post 463 00:23:04,931 --> 00:23:06,307 did it for her. 464 00:23:06,349 --> 00:23:10,436 It was entitled Pretty Nancy. 465 00:23:10,478 --> 00:23:16,025 She talked about Nancy's frozen smile and the gaze, 466 00:23:16,067 --> 00:23:20,655 "g-a-z-e" gaze, became her trademark. 467 00:23:20,697 --> 00:23:23,241 Women made fun of it. 468 00:23:23,283 --> 00:23:25,618 She would just be like this all the time 469 00:23:25,660 --> 00:23:28,705 looking at him, and I don't think it was put on. 470 00:23:28,746 --> 00:23:33,626 It's a 1950s woman trying to shore up her man. 471 00:23:33,668 --> 00:23:35,295 Do we want to center these on the wall 472 00:23:35,336 --> 00:23:36,629 and then-- but then work around it? 473 00:23:36,671 --> 00:23:37,922 Is that--I think that's the best--Hmm? 474 00:23:37,964 --> 00:23:40,758 And perhaps we have room for hanging three right here. 475 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,302 Don't you think it would be better 476 00:23:42,343 --> 00:23:47,473 to put all of those, uh, maybe down there, 477 00:23:47,515 --> 00:23:50,852 where they'd be the most visible rather than here? 478 00:23:50,893 --> 00:23:52,061 [man] And having here-- and having there to themselves. 479 00:23:52,103 --> 00:23:54,063 Yeah, right, and that--and that next. 480 00:23:54,105 --> 00:23:57,358 -[man] Yes, I think so. -See, I'm sorry, ma'am, 481 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,068 but unauthorized personnel aren't allowed in here. 482 00:23:59,110 --> 00:24:00,903 -[laughs] -Hi, honey. 483 00:24:00,945 --> 00:24:02,488 Hi. 484 00:24:02,530 --> 00:24:06,868 [Ron Jr.] My parents were somewhat old-fashioned people. 485 00:24:06,909 --> 00:24:09,120 Look at these. Oops! 486 00:24:09,162 --> 00:24:10,330 [exhales deeply] 487 00:24:10,371 --> 00:24:13,291 [Ron Jr.] That was just as well, given that they were going 488 00:24:13,333 --> 00:24:15,209 into Republican politics. 489 00:24:15,251 --> 00:24:18,546 You know, Nancy, you'll see Patty later on. 490 00:24:18,588 --> 00:24:19,756 Hello. 491 00:24:19,797 --> 00:24:23,259 [Ron Jr.] They could stand as this symbol of the old America, 492 00:24:23,301 --> 00:24:26,054 you know, the America we miss so much. 493 00:24:26,095 --> 00:24:30,266 You could see it in the TV shows of the '50s-- 494 00:24:30,308 --> 00:24:36,814 a lot of conservatives thought the nuclear family, 495 00:24:36,856 --> 00:24:39,400 the husband as breadwinner, the little woman 496 00:24:39,442 --> 00:24:45,156 staying home with the apron, the happy Black servant, 497 00:24:45,198 --> 00:24:49,160 this was kind of the natural order of things. 498 00:24:49,202 --> 00:24:50,661 [man] Like many a housewife, 499 00:24:50,703 --> 00:24:54,207 Nancy Reagan likes to shop herself when she can. 500 00:24:54,248 --> 00:24:56,125 [Kelley] Nancy felt her persona 501 00:24:56,167 --> 00:24:59,170 would be non-threatening to America 502 00:24:59,212 --> 00:25:02,173 and non-threatening to the Republican Party, 503 00:25:02,215 --> 00:25:08,137 and it worked. It worked for the Reagans. 504 00:25:08,179 --> 00:25:10,890 They were scared of The Beatles, for Godsakes. 505 00:25:10,932 --> 00:25:13,226 The Beatles. 506 00:25:13,267 --> 00:25:16,729 The '60s were very difficult for my father. 507 00:25:16,771 --> 00:25:20,900 He was unable to fathom this whole new long-haired 508 00:25:20,942 --> 00:25:23,736 rock-and-roll, pot-smoking reality. 509 00:25:23,778 --> 00:25:25,405 [Ronald] This fellow that was doing the talking 510 00:25:25,446 --> 00:25:27,782 had a haircut like Tarzan, he walked like Jane, 511 00:25:27,824 --> 00:25:31,369 and smelled like cheetah. [laughter] 512 00:25:31,411 --> 00:25:36,582 rock and roll music 513 00:25:36,624 --> 00:25:39,669 Hey, by the way you be sure to listen to WYBC's Viewpoint 514 00:25:39,710 --> 00:25:42,130 when Jason Roberts talks with Governor Ronald Reagan. 515 00:25:42,171 --> 00:25:44,340 -[Ronald] Okay, wait a second. -[man] Yeah, roll the tape. 516 00:25:44,382 --> 00:25:46,592 [man] Since Sunday, the California governor 517 00:25:46,634 --> 00:25:49,887 has been guest lecturer at Yale University. 518 00:25:49,929 --> 00:25:51,055 [man] How do you feel? 519 00:25:51,097 --> 00:25:53,933 Well, uh, a little nervous at the moment. 520 00:25:53,975 --> 00:25:58,396 It's, uh, but then I was always nervous about an examination. 521 00:25:58,438 --> 00:26:00,982 [indistinct conversations] 522 00:26:01,023 --> 00:26:06,612 [Shearer] I first met Reagan when he came to Yale University 523 00:26:06,654 --> 00:26:08,906 at the end of the first year as governor. 524 00:26:08,948 --> 00:26:12,869 I probably knew more than the average Yalie 525 00:26:12,910 --> 00:26:15,580 about him because I was from California. 526 00:26:15,621 --> 00:26:17,498 Uh, I actually I gave the impression a lot. 527 00:26:17,540 --> 00:26:20,001 He was a bit taken aback by what I what I would call 528 00:26:20,042 --> 00:26:22,712 the critical reception that he got. 529 00:26:22,753 --> 00:26:27,925 We asked penetrating, journalist-like questions. 530 00:26:27,967 --> 00:26:31,804 He was not used to be put on the spot. 531 00:26:31,846 --> 00:26:33,806 Could you tell me in what ways you've been active 532 00:26:33,848 --> 00:26:36,684 for civil rights in your career? 533 00:26:44,692 --> 00:26:47,320 As a sports announcer many years ago, 534 00:26:47,361 --> 00:26:50,239 baseball opened its rule book with a line, 535 00:26:50,281 --> 00:26:53,117 "Baseball is a game for Caucasian gentlemen." 536 00:26:53,159 --> 00:26:55,995 Baseball is a game for Caucasian gentlemen. 537 00:26:56,037 --> 00:26:59,624 Only whites were allowed to play baseball in the big leagues. 538 00:26:59,665 --> 00:27:02,585 I editorialized constantly against this. 539 00:27:02,627 --> 00:27:06,506 Was editorializing against the gentlemen's agreement 540 00:27:06,547 --> 00:27:09,926 that kept Blacks from playing organized baseball. 541 00:27:09,967 --> 00:27:13,179 And one man defied that rule. 542 00:27:17,517 --> 00:27:19,977 And today, baseball is far better off. 543 00:27:20,019 --> 00:27:24,357 [Shearer] The notion that he was an aggressive activist 544 00:27:24,398 --> 00:27:27,068 who supported Jackie Robinson's right 545 00:27:27,109 --> 00:27:30,947 to play baseball was, again, not true. 546 00:27:30,988 --> 00:27:35,368 It's just an example of him not really wanting to see 547 00:27:35,409 --> 00:27:39,747 and also not admitting the depth of the issue 548 00:27:39,789 --> 00:27:41,999 of discrimination in the country. 549 00:27:42,041 --> 00:27:44,001 Each time you've spoken about civil rights, 550 00:27:44,043 --> 00:27:46,337 you've talked about the integration of baseball 551 00:27:46,379 --> 00:27:48,214 about Willie Mays and Jackie Robinson. 552 00:27:48,256 --> 00:27:50,049 It--it's become repetitious, 553 00:27:50,091 --> 00:27:52,677 and it seems to me a sad concept of civil rights. 554 00:27:52,718 --> 00:27:55,596 The real problems are questions of housing, 555 00:27:55,638 --> 00:27:57,265 of crime in the ghetto. 556 00:27:57,306 --> 00:28:00,351 It's always as if it's coming out of something that's been-- 557 00:28:00,393 --> 00:28:02,562 that's memorized, that if they question you 558 00:28:02,603 --> 00:28:04,438 for more than five minutes, you break down. 559 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,567 I just--I don't believe that you really have mastered 560 00:28:07,608 --> 00:28:09,235 the subjects you're talking about. 561 00:28:09,277 --> 00:28:11,195 [Ronald] Well, let me ask you something. 562 00:28:11,237 --> 00:28:15,449 What is the democratic machine in Chicago? 563 00:28:15,491 --> 00:28:17,243 [arguing at once] 564 00:28:17,285 --> 00:28:21,330 Instead of arguing the facts with us, he was sort of saying, 565 00:28:21,372 --> 00:28:24,292 "You're too young to understand how the world works." 566 00:28:24,333 --> 00:28:26,419 This is one of the things that you should learn. 567 00:28:26,460 --> 00:28:28,296 And, Derek, you ought to learn this most of all 568 00:28:28,337 --> 00:28:30,798 if you're going to pursue journalism. 569 00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:35,177 [Shearer] Reagan saw himself as a patriot. 570 00:28:35,219 --> 00:28:36,929 contemplative music 571 00:28:36,971 --> 00:28:38,514 He wasn't self-critical. 572 00:28:38,556 --> 00:28:43,352 He didn't wanna examine America in any critical way 573 00:28:43,394 --> 00:28:47,565 because he accepted America as it was. 574 00:28:48,941 --> 00:28:52,862 The notion that if you followed other music 575 00:28:52,903 --> 00:28:54,864 or another lifestyle, 576 00:28:54,905 --> 00:28:57,450 or if you disagreed with the war in Vietnam 577 00:28:57,491 --> 00:28:59,744 or if you got too excited about voting rights 578 00:28:59,785 --> 00:29:03,581 for Black people that you were actually challenging 579 00:29:03,623 --> 00:29:07,793 his America, his unexamined America. 580 00:29:07,835 --> 00:29:11,631 [Ronald] College is the world apart from the world. 581 00:29:11,672 --> 00:29:13,799 But this year on the beautiful campus 582 00:29:13,841 --> 00:29:16,844 of the University of California at Berkeley, 583 00:29:16,886 --> 00:29:19,764 college was also this. 584 00:29:19,805 --> 00:29:21,349 [chanting indistinctly] 585 00:29:21,390 --> 00:29:25,645 [Ronald] This small minority of beatniks and malcontents 586 00:29:25,686 --> 00:29:27,521 and filthy speech advocates 587 00:29:27,563 --> 00:29:29,315 have interfered with the primary purpose 588 00:29:29,357 --> 00:29:30,441 of that university, 589 00:29:30,483 --> 00:29:33,027 and they've brought shame on a great university, 590 00:29:33,069 --> 00:29:35,071 a university of which you and I have a right 591 00:29:35,112 --> 00:29:36,280 to be very proud 592 00:29:36,322 --> 00:29:39,033 and which, for many years, we have been very proud. 593 00:29:39,075 --> 00:29:41,619 [crowd cheering] 594 00:29:45,915 --> 00:29:46,874 [Shearer] At three in the morning 595 00:29:46,916 --> 00:29:49,001 on Thursday, the 15th of May, 596 00:29:49,043 --> 00:29:51,587 300 uniformed fully equipped police 597 00:29:51,629 --> 00:29:54,799 occupied the park, and a fence was erected. 598 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:56,550 [man] And unless you leave, 599 00:29:56,592 --> 00:29:58,844 you will be arrested for trespassing. 600 00:29:58,886 --> 00:30:03,265 [Shearer] That same day, a rally was held on campus. 601 00:30:03,307 --> 00:30:05,643 [man] Don't let those pigs beat the shit out of you. 602 00:30:05,685 --> 00:30:08,312 Don't let yourselves get arrested on felonies. 603 00:30:08,354 --> 00:30:10,439 Go down there and take the park. 604 00:30:10,481 --> 00:30:14,026 [cheering] 605 00:30:14,068 --> 00:30:15,319 [man] Take the park! 606 00:30:15,361 --> 00:30:18,739 [Shearer] People's Park involved students 607 00:30:18,781 --> 00:30:20,574 protecting a piece of land 608 00:30:20,616 --> 00:30:22,576 that the university wanted to expand on. 609 00:30:22,618 --> 00:30:25,246 [crowd] We want the park! We want the park! 610 00:30:25,287 --> 00:30:27,289 [Scheer] The university overreacted. 611 00:30:27,331 --> 00:30:30,835 On the local level, the police were coming in, 612 00:30:30,876 --> 00:30:34,380 and then Reagan came in with the authorization 613 00:30:34,422 --> 00:30:37,341 on the state level of the National Guard. 614 00:30:37,383 --> 00:30:39,927 suspenseful music 615 00:30:43,222 --> 00:30:46,517 [indistinct chanting] 616 00:30:48,436 --> 00:30:49,937 [helicopter propeller whirring] 617 00:30:49,979 --> 00:30:54,608 Suddenly, you have troops there with guns and bayonets. 618 00:30:54,650 --> 00:30:56,652 [gunshot] 619 00:30:56,694 --> 00:31:00,740 [crowd shouting indistinctly] 620 00:31:05,077 --> 00:31:07,455 [Shearer] If you were watching the TV coverage, 621 00:31:07,496 --> 00:31:10,916 it looked like that it was a riot. 622 00:31:10,958 --> 00:31:14,378 The optics of it for Reagan were great. 623 00:31:14,420 --> 00:31:18,424 It played into all the tropes of the conservative movement 624 00:31:18,466 --> 00:31:21,385 about young people. 625 00:31:21,427 --> 00:31:23,929 [interviewer] Did you personally agree with it? 626 00:31:23,971 --> 00:31:27,308 Yeah. I'm that generation. 627 00:31:27,349 --> 00:31:30,019 Bomb the bastards. 628 00:31:30,060 --> 00:31:33,063 [gunfire] 629 00:31:33,105 --> 00:31:35,357 [indistinct shouting] 630 00:31:35,399 --> 00:31:36,776 dramatic music 631 00:31:36,817 --> 00:31:38,360 [indistinct shouting] 632 00:31:38,402 --> 00:31:42,907 [helicopter propeller whirring] 633 00:31:46,535 --> 00:31:49,330 [Scheer] Reagan blamed everything bad that happened 634 00:31:49,371 --> 00:31:52,249 on the students and the university. 635 00:31:52,291 --> 00:31:55,461 On the campus, it was you who are adults. 636 00:31:55,503 --> 00:31:58,798 You who are entrusted with those young people and their guidance, 637 00:31:58,839 --> 00:32:01,383 have a responsibility to make it plain to them 638 00:32:01,425 --> 00:32:02,510 from the very beginning 639 00:32:02,551 --> 00:32:04,762 that you yourselves do not tolerate 640 00:32:04,804 --> 00:32:06,263 the kind of conduct 641 00:32:06,305 --> 00:32:08,349 that has led to the burning of Wheeler Hall. 642 00:32:08,390 --> 00:32:09,683 [man] The overwhelming majority 643 00:32:09,725 --> 00:32:12,686 of the faculty and students are against violence, 644 00:32:12,728 --> 00:32:15,397 have done more to curb violence than you 645 00:32:15,439 --> 00:32:16,649 and created an atmosphere-- 646 00:32:16,690 --> 00:32:18,234 -[Ronald] Listen. -[man] No one wants to listen. 647 00:32:18,275 --> 00:32:20,110 -No one... -You are a liar. 648 00:32:20,152 --> 00:32:23,280 All of it began the first time some of you who know better, 649 00:32:23,322 --> 00:32:25,491 and are old enough to know better, 650 00:32:25,533 --> 00:32:28,369 let young people think that they have the right 651 00:32:28,410 --> 00:32:30,120 to choose the laws they would obey 652 00:32:30,162 --> 00:32:34,083 as long as they were doing it in the name of social protest. 653 00:32:34,124 --> 00:32:37,795 [Wiley] Reagan was able to play on the insecurity 654 00:32:37,837 --> 00:32:40,589 about a world that was radically changing. 655 00:32:40,631 --> 00:32:43,217 From young people on college campuses, 656 00:32:43,259 --> 00:32:46,512 from the anti-Vietnam War demonstrations 657 00:32:46,554 --> 00:32:48,931 as well as the civil rights movement, 658 00:32:48,973 --> 00:32:52,852 Reagan was linking all of this demonstration 659 00:32:52,893 --> 00:32:56,105 and protest as a grand threat. 660 00:32:56,146 --> 00:32:59,942 [Ronald] It's time we recognize that this is nationwide. 661 00:32:59,984 --> 00:33:01,235 This is a plot. 662 00:33:01,277 --> 00:33:04,488 There is a conspiratorial side to it. 663 00:33:04,530 --> 00:33:07,950 [Scheer] What should have been seen as positive expressions 664 00:33:07,992 --> 00:33:09,869 of legitimate concern, 665 00:33:09,910 --> 00:33:11,412 Ronald Reagan gets hacked. 666 00:33:11,453 --> 00:33:13,998 He made no bones about it. 667 00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:18,419 Anybody who talks about these structural problems 668 00:33:18,460 --> 00:33:23,549 of race or peace and class is the enemy, a traitor. 669 00:33:23,591 --> 00:33:27,219 suspenseful music 670 00:33:27,261 --> 00:33:30,806 [man] The Governor and The Students, 671 00:33:30,848 --> 00:33:32,850 an unedited, unrehearsed dialogue 672 00:33:32,892 --> 00:33:35,269 between Governor Ronald Reagan 673 00:33:35,311 --> 00:33:37,229 and California students. 674 00:33:37,271 --> 00:33:38,939 groovy music 675 00:33:38,981 --> 00:33:41,317 [man] Governor, I know you kind of decided 676 00:33:41,358 --> 00:33:42,902 whether or not to receive the Republican 677 00:33:42,943 --> 00:33:45,738 presidential, um, nomination for President. 678 00:33:45,779 --> 00:33:49,033 But would you like to be President? 679 00:33:49,074 --> 00:33:51,493 It's a job that--I think it starts with the people. 680 00:33:51,535 --> 00:33:54,747 But I could never find myself 681 00:33:54,788 --> 00:33:57,166 just saying, "Oh, I want to be President, 682 00:33:57,207 --> 00:33:59,126 and I'm gonna go out and talk to people into it." 683 00:33:59,168 --> 00:34:03,213 My father came from a generation where being nakedly ambitious 684 00:34:03,255 --> 00:34:06,759 was not seen as a positive characteristic. 685 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,385 Heroes don't do that. 686 00:34:08,427 --> 00:34:12,181 Heroes don't, you know, seek attention. 687 00:34:12,222 --> 00:34:13,974 If you were nakedly ambitious, 688 00:34:14,016 --> 00:34:16,477 you were being something less than heroic. 689 00:34:16,518 --> 00:34:19,521 [Plog] Reagan was thinking of being President 690 00:34:19,563 --> 00:34:21,106 from the time we first met him. 691 00:34:21,148 --> 00:34:22,691 That's all he wanted. 692 00:34:22,733 --> 00:34:26,070 I was with him in his Pacific Palisades home, 693 00:34:26,111 --> 00:34:27,738 and we're going through some issues. 694 00:34:27,780 --> 00:34:29,740 He suddenly put the books down and he said, 695 00:34:29,782 --> 00:34:31,367 "Damn. Wouldn't this be fun 696 00:34:31,408 --> 00:34:33,452 if we were running for the presidency?" 697 00:34:33,494 --> 00:34:36,163 [Alter] In early 1968, 698 00:34:36,205 --> 00:34:38,582 the guy has been governor for a year. 699 00:34:38,624 --> 00:34:43,170 He goes on a nationwide speaking tour to test the waters 700 00:34:43,212 --> 00:34:44,797 for the presidency. 701 00:34:44,838 --> 00:34:46,715 [man] Governor, are you running for President? 702 00:34:46,757 --> 00:34:49,802 I am not a candidate. I'm not running for President. 703 00:34:49,843 --> 00:34:51,011 [man] People think you're a candidate. 704 00:34:51,053 --> 00:34:53,555 Well, um, maybe the people think I'm a candidate 705 00:34:53,597 --> 00:34:55,224 because you fellows won't take my word for it. 706 00:34:55,265 --> 00:34:56,392 [man] Governor... 707 00:34:56,433 --> 00:34:59,269 [crowd chattering] 708 00:34:59,311 --> 00:35:01,814 [elephant blows] 709 00:35:01,855 --> 00:35:03,941 [elephant trumpets] 710 00:35:03,983 --> 00:35:10,155 And in '68, my grandmother was for Reagan. 711 00:35:10,197 --> 00:35:12,992 Reagan was the governor from the largest state 712 00:35:13,033 --> 00:35:14,994 governing as a conservative. 713 00:35:15,035 --> 00:35:17,621 He really put himself forward as somebody that 714 00:35:17,663 --> 00:35:19,415 conservative Republicans said, 715 00:35:19,456 --> 00:35:22,918 "Someday, this is our candidate for President." 716 00:35:24,837 --> 00:35:27,464 [man] This is probably his last chance at the White House 717 00:35:27,506 --> 00:35:32,219 for one reason or another, chiefly age, it's 1968 or never. 718 00:35:32,261 --> 00:35:34,847 [man] The nominee of this convention-- 719 00:35:34,888 --> 00:35:36,265 Richard M. Nixon. 720 00:35:36,306 --> 00:35:41,145 [crowd cheering] 721 00:35:41,186 --> 00:35:43,063 [Spencer] Reagan wasn't ready. 722 00:35:43,105 --> 00:35:46,942 But my governor had stars in his eyes, 723 00:35:46,984 --> 00:35:49,278 and the message was out there. 724 00:35:49,319 --> 00:35:50,779 He wanted the job. 725 00:35:50,821 --> 00:35:53,282 [crowd chattering] 726 00:35:53,323 --> 00:35:56,994 We want Reagan! We want Reagan! 727 00:35:57,036 --> 00:35:59,246 [man] And I can tell we need some more enthusiasm. 728 00:35:59,288 --> 00:36:01,081 Ladies and gentlemen, if you will, 729 00:36:01,123 --> 00:36:03,042 join me in a tremendous round of applause. 730 00:36:03,083 --> 00:36:04,835 [cheers and applause] 731 00:36:04,877 --> 00:36:07,838 It's Ronald Reagan, the fighter 732 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,632 Ronald Reagan, the power 733 00:36:10,674 --> 00:36:13,469 Here he comes, here he comes 734 00:36:13,510 --> 00:36:17,181 '76, this is ours 735 00:36:17,222 --> 00:36:18,640 Oh, baby 736 00:36:18,682 --> 00:36:20,934 [Cannon] Ronald Reagan left the California governorship 737 00:36:20,976 --> 00:36:22,352 early in 1975. 738 00:36:22,394 --> 00:36:23,771 -Hi. -[man] How are you? 739 00:36:23,812 --> 00:36:26,732 By the time he was running for President in 1976, 740 00:36:26,774 --> 00:36:28,525 Mrs. Reagan had acquired an awful lot 741 00:36:28,567 --> 00:36:31,737 of political knowledge about national politics. 742 00:36:31,779 --> 00:36:34,323 upbeat music 743 00:36:34,364 --> 00:36:35,657 [reporter] Obviously, you must think 744 00:36:35,699 --> 00:36:37,117 you're doing some good to be out shaking 745 00:36:37,159 --> 00:36:39,036 all these hands, running around the state. 746 00:36:39,078 --> 00:36:41,789 I'm doing what they asked me to do. 747 00:36:41,830 --> 00:36:45,167 I go out and do questions and answers, 748 00:36:45,209 --> 00:36:46,376 and it's fascinating. It really is, 749 00:36:46,418 --> 00:36:50,297 'cause you find out that no matter where you are, 750 00:36:50,339 --> 00:36:52,216 the same things are on people's minds, 751 00:36:52,257 --> 00:36:57,096 which has been fascinating to me. 752 00:36:57,137 --> 00:36:58,639 She was an actress. 753 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,809 Not a great actress, but an actress, 754 00:37:01,850 --> 00:37:05,354 and she could play parts very well. 755 00:37:05,395 --> 00:37:08,148 [Alter] She created this artifice that in some ways 756 00:37:08,190 --> 00:37:13,237 was almost as powerful as her husband's façade 757 00:37:13,278 --> 00:37:17,616 and hers was of the adoring, demure wife. 758 00:37:17,658 --> 00:37:19,493 But she also knew how to charm people. 759 00:37:19,535 --> 00:37:21,411 [Nancy] It's, uh... [ laughs ] 760 00:37:21,453 --> 00:37:22,454 Have you ever just said, 761 00:37:22,496 --> 00:37:23,747 "No. That's not the way we're gonna do it"? 762 00:37:23,789 --> 00:37:25,332 -No. -[laughs] 763 00:37:25,374 --> 00:37:28,293 Well, I'll tell you, that's-- that's an ideal wife. 764 00:37:28,335 --> 00:37:30,087 [man] Mrs. Reagan... 765 00:37:30,129 --> 00:37:32,923 [Lopez] When Ronald Reagan runs again in '76, 766 00:37:32,965 --> 00:37:36,552 he also learned from his experience in California, 767 00:37:36,593 --> 00:37:40,097 and he runs a very aggressive dog whistle campaign. 768 00:37:40,139 --> 00:37:43,058 Tonight, I'd like to talk to you about issues, 769 00:37:43,100 --> 00:37:44,726 issues which I think are involved 770 00:37:44,768 --> 00:37:47,688 or should be involved in this primary election season. 771 00:37:47,729 --> 00:37:50,691 [Wiley] Reagan's ideology was that 772 00:37:50,732 --> 00:37:52,693 government programs are just wasting 773 00:37:52,734 --> 00:37:54,111 our hard-earned money. 774 00:37:54,153 --> 00:37:58,282 He pulls the story of a woman in Chicago. 775 00:37:58,323 --> 00:38:00,701 [Ronald] She has 50 Social Security numbers 776 00:38:00,742 --> 00:38:03,537 and 50 addresses in Chicago alone. 777 00:38:03,579 --> 00:38:05,497 Her tax-free cash income 778 00:38:05,539 --> 00:38:09,459 has been running a $150,000 a year. 779 00:38:10,377 --> 00:38:13,463 [Wiley] Reagan's welfare queen and her Cadillac 780 00:38:13,505 --> 00:38:17,676 became a poster child for a lie. 781 00:38:17,718 --> 00:38:21,722 The lie is this is what people on welfare are, 782 00:38:21,763 --> 00:38:24,808 that these are people who don't need the program 783 00:38:24,850 --> 00:38:27,060 and that it was people of color 784 00:38:27,102 --> 00:38:29,563 who were getting unfair handouts. 785 00:38:29,605 --> 00:38:32,316 Washington doesn't even know how many people are on welfare, 786 00:38:32,357 --> 00:38:35,068 how many cheaters are getting more than one check. 787 00:38:35,110 --> 00:38:39,239 The surface story is Blacks are lazy. 788 00:38:39,281 --> 00:38:42,701 They're cheaters. They're a drain on society. 789 00:38:42,743 --> 00:38:44,369 And by implication, 790 00:38:44,411 --> 00:38:46,288 a complimentary story about whites-- 791 00:38:46,330 --> 00:38:48,874 hard-working, responsible, innocent, 792 00:38:48,916 --> 00:38:52,502 law-abiding taxpayers who contribute. 793 00:38:52,544 --> 00:38:56,381 Many politicians like Reagan use welfare as a-- 794 00:38:56,423 --> 00:38:58,300 as a term to cover up their racism. 795 00:38:58,342 --> 00:38:59,801 That is they never deal with the fact 796 00:38:59,843 --> 00:39:03,722 that they have three whites on welfare for every one Black. 797 00:39:03,764 --> 00:39:07,226 [Scheer] Reagan was demonizing vulnerable people. 798 00:39:07,267 --> 00:39:09,061 And meanwhile, the people ripping you off 799 00:39:09,102 --> 00:39:11,855 are big corporations getting tax breaks, 800 00:39:11,897 --> 00:39:14,399 and so it's a very convenient narrative. 801 00:39:14,441 --> 00:39:16,485 [reporter] Significant numbers of Democratic 802 00:39:16,526 --> 00:39:18,987 and independent voters like what he's been saying, 803 00:39:19,029 --> 00:39:21,573 that some of his detractors claim that at least 804 00:39:21,615 --> 00:39:25,077 some of what he's been saying is a little short on accuracy. 805 00:39:25,118 --> 00:39:28,872 It costs three $3 in overhead to deliver one $1 806 00:39:28,914 --> 00:39:31,291 to a needy person in this country. 807 00:39:31,333 --> 00:39:32,584 [man] Reagan is wrong. 808 00:39:32,626 --> 00:39:36,046 It doesn't cost $3 to deliver a dollar of welfare, 809 00:39:36,088 --> 00:39:37,839 but 12 cents. 810 00:39:37,881 --> 00:39:40,676 [Wiley] The majority of people who are on welfare are white. 811 00:39:40,717 --> 00:39:45,138 And yet welfare exists in our political consciousness 812 00:39:45,180 --> 00:39:47,891 as only benefitting people of color. 813 00:39:47,933 --> 00:39:51,186 That is how blind we have become 814 00:39:51,228 --> 00:39:54,815 to how manipulated we are by racial politics 815 00:39:54,856 --> 00:39:59,152 that serve to undermine equality. 816 00:39:59,194 --> 00:40:02,114 [man] Ronald Reagan almost has as many delegates 817 00:40:02,155 --> 00:40:03,365 committed to him 818 00:40:03,407 --> 00:40:05,117 as are committed to President Ford. 819 00:40:05,158 --> 00:40:08,328 [woman] Do you think you'll be the Republican nominee in '76? 820 00:40:08,370 --> 00:40:11,456 [Ronald] I don't know. I'm gonna try. 821 00:40:11,498 --> 00:40:15,377 tense music 822 00:40:19,881 --> 00:40:21,174 Good morning from Kansas City, Missouri, 823 00:40:21,216 --> 00:40:26,596 the site of the 31st Republican National Convention. 824 00:40:26,638 --> 00:40:28,849 The choice facing the people in this country 825 00:40:28,890 --> 00:40:31,810 is between that Democratic platform, 826 00:40:31,852 --> 00:40:34,438 which is for more government, more spending, 827 00:40:34,479 --> 00:40:37,316 more deficits as against the platform 828 00:40:37,357 --> 00:40:39,818 that has said, "Let us reverse that 829 00:40:39,860 --> 00:40:41,069 and get back the freedom 830 00:40:41,111 --> 00:40:43,405 and state's rights and local rules." 831 00:40:43,447 --> 00:40:46,325 [Baker] In 1976, Reagan was a force 832 00:40:46,366 --> 00:40:48,493 to be reckoned with. 833 00:40:48,535 --> 00:40:53,040 He almost knocked off an incumbent Jerry Ford 834 00:40:53,081 --> 00:40:54,499 for his party's nomination. 835 00:40:54,541 --> 00:40:58,086 [man] They're not really fighting over the old fissure 836 00:40:58,128 --> 00:41:00,297 of, "Are we going left or are going right?" 837 00:41:00,339 --> 00:41:03,925 This party's made up its mind. It's going right. 838 00:41:03,967 --> 00:41:05,761 It's going right, but how far right? 839 00:41:05,802 --> 00:41:10,432 [man] The nominee of this convention is Gerald R. Ford. 840 00:41:10,474 --> 00:41:12,559 [crowd cheering] 841 00:41:12,601 --> 00:41:16,813 [man] The major Reagan threat to the Ford campaign here 842 00:41:16,855 --> 00:41:19,900 has been decisively defeated. 843 00:41:19,941 --> 00:41:22,527 [man] There had been a request to hear 844 00:41:22,569 --> 00:41:23,862 from Governor Reagan, 845 00:41:23,904 --> 00:41:25,489 invite him to address the convention. 846 00:41:25,530 --> 00:41:28,950 [cheers and applause] 847 00:41:28,992 --> 00:41:31,370 [Norquist] In the speech Reagan gave 848 00:41:31,411 --> 00:41:33,455 supposedly endorsing Ford 849 00:41:33,497 --> 00:41:35,957 was a speech for electing Reagan, 850 00:41:35,999 --> 00:41:38,460 and he made it clear that he had a vision. 851 00:41:38,502 --> 00:41:40,879 We've got to quit talking to each other 852 00:41:40,921 --> 00:41:44,966 and about each other and go out and communicate to the world 853 00:41:45,008 --> 00:41:47,928 that we may be fewer in numbers than we've ever been, 854 00:41:47,969 --> 00:41:51,515 but we carry the message they're waiting for. 855 00:41:51,556 --> 00:41:53,058 [Norquist] Reagan was making the case 856 00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:56,186 for a modern conservative Republican Party 857 00:41:56,228 --> 00:42:01,358 that had a serious vision of where it wanted to go. 858 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,112 What a great general said a few years ago is true. 859 00:42:05,153 --> 00:42:08,824 There is no substitute for victory. 860 00:42:08,865 --> 00:42:10,367 Mr. President. 861 00:42:10,409 --> 00:42:12,119 [crowd cheering] 862 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:13,245 Thank you. 863 00:42:13,286 --> 00:42:15,872 [Spencer] He made the best speech of his life. 864 00:42:15,914 --> 00:42:18,917 It just showed me how badly he wanted it. 865 00:42:18,959 --> 00:42:22,295 After that, Reagan owned the heart of the party. 866 00:42:22,337 --> 00:42:26,133 [man] This was supposed to have been President Ford's night, 867 00:42:26,174 --> 00:42:27,717 and then as he swept off the stage, 868 00:42:27,759 --> 00:42:30,137 the whole auditorium just rose. 869 00:42:30,178 --> 00:42:31,847 I've never seen anything like that. 870 00:42:31,888 --> 00:42:33,390 [man] Saying in effect, Roger, this is what you-- 871 00:42:33,432 --> 00:42:34,474 That maybe we picked the wrong man. I don't-- 872 00:42:34,516 --> 00:42:36,518 This is what you might have had. 873 00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:37,561 Exactly. 874 00:42:37,602 --> 00:42:38,812 [man] Unless Ronald Reagan 875 00:42:38,854 --> 00:42:42,274 comes to the end of the long trail, 876 00:42:42,315 --> 00:42:44,860 65 is not likely to be a candidate 877 00:42:44,901 --> 00:42:47,112 for public office again. 878 00:42:55,370 --> 00:42:58,165 [Ron Jr.] After the '76 campaign, 879 00:42:58,206 --> 00:43:00,667 I noticed my father mellowing a bit. 880 00:43:00,709 --> 00:43:05,005 Part of that was the fact that he had lost... 881 00:43:05,046 --> 00:43:06,381 [horse nickers] 882 00:43:06,423 --> 00:43:08,008 ...but survived. 883 00:43:08,049 --> 00:43:09,718 Okay. All right. Yeah, yeah! 884 00:43:09,759 --> 00:43:11,970 [Rollins] Reagan told me one time, 885 00:43:12,012 --> 00:43:13,555 "I probably wouldn't have run again 886 00:43:13,597 --> 00:43:15,432 if it wasn't for Mrs. Reagan." 887 00:43:15,474 --> 00:43:16,850 She thought that he had to run, 888 00:43:16,892 --> 00:43:20,103 and he was sort of, "Okay, I took my shot at it. 889 00:43:20,145 --> 00:43:23,231 Gonna go to the ranch and live happily ever after." 890 00:43:23,273 --> 00:43:25,859 hopeful music 891 00:43:25,901 --> 00:43:27,944 She kept persuading him 892 00:43:27,986 --> 00:43:30,238 that he was the man that could change the country. 893 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:33,325 [man] Ronald Reagan hasn't been heard from much 894 00:43:33,366 --> 00:43:35,243 since he lost the Republican nomination 895 00:43:35,285 --> 00:43:37,204 to Gerald Ford in Kansas City. 896 00:43:37,245 --> 00:43:39,915 While his fellow Republicans have been trying to figure out 897 00:43:39,956 --> 00:43:42,042 what to do about the party, the governors, 898 00:43:42,083 --> 00:43:44,211 the state chairmen, the national committee, 899 00:43:44,252 --> 00:43:47,923 Reagan has been more or less quietly biding his time. 900 00:43:47,964 --> 00:43:49,174 [Ronald] Well, there's nothing like 901 00:43:49,216 --> 00:43:51,176 being in the saddle all day. 902 00:43:52,802 --> 00:43:55,597 Governor Reagan, would you have beaten Jimmy Carter? 903 00:43:55,639 --> 00:43:57,807 I said during the primaries that I thought I could, 904 00:43:57,849 --> 00:43:59,893 and I still believe that I could have. 905 00:43:59,935 --> 00:44:02,354 [man] Where Ford failed Reagan would have won, how? 906 00:44:02,395 --> 00:44:04,105 How would you have put it together? 907 00:44:04,147 --> 00:44:07,526 Well, I think I would have broken into the solid South, 908 00:44:07,567 --> 00:44:10,195 which went for Carter as an-- as a native son. 909 00:44:10,237 --> 00:44:12,781 But what really made the difference, 910 00:44:12,822 --> 00:44:14,241 if you will agree, is the Black vote. 911 00:44:14,282 --> 00:44:15,367 Yeah. 912 00:44:15,408 --> 00:44:20,455 Apparently Black Americans find almost nothing 913 00:44:20,497 --> 00:44:22,332 in the Republican Party to attract. 914 00:44:22,374 --> 00:44:24,209 You're anti-people. Bob Dole says 915 00:44:24,251 --> 00:44:26,670 you have the image of being anti-people. 916 00:44:26,711 --> 00:44:28,588 Ah, we have the image, 917 00:44:28,630 --> 00:44:31,716 yes, but... and I don't deny that. 918 00:44:31,758 --> 00:44:34,844 We have been the victims of a false image. 919 00:44:34,886 --> 00:44:38,139 The Republican Party has just done the lousiest job 920 00:44:38,181 --> 00:44:40,976 of merchandising of what it has to offer. 921 00:44:43,687 --> 00:44:46,439 To me, it was realistic that he could have been 922 00:44:46,481 --> 00:44:48,567 a nominee in '76. 923 00:44:48,608 --> 00:44:51,486 Do I think he could beat Jimmy Carter? No. 924 00:44:51,528 --> 00:44:54,281 Reagan's base was the South, 925 00:44:54,322 --> 00:44:57,909 and Jimmy was a hometown Southern boy. 926 00:44:57,951 --> 00:45:02,664 But four years later, when Reagan ran again, 927 00:45:02,706 --> 00:45:05,792 they didn't like their boy. [laughs] 928 00:45:05,834 --> 00:45:09,045 [crowd cheering] 929 00:45:09,087 --> 00:45:12,299 [Alter] Reagan knew he had to win the South in 1980. 930 00:45:12,340 --> 00:45:15,969 To do that, he had to send some messages 931 00:45:16,011 --> 00:45:17,512 that he was on the side 932 00:45:17,554 --> 00:45:19,598 of racist conservative voters there. 933 00:45:19,639 --> 00:45:23,143 He definitely went for 934 00:45:23,184 --> 00:45:25,312 what they called the cracker vote. 935 00:45:25,353 --> 00:45:28,064 [Shearer] Since the end of the '60s, 936 00:45:28,106 --> 00:45:31,276 the Republican Party consciously went after 937 00:45:31,318 --> 00:45:33,111 white voters in the South 938 00:45:33,153 --> 00:45:36,865 by making racial appeals to voters. 939 00:45:36,906 --> 00:45:40,577 [Lopez] This was called the Southern strategy. 940 00:45:40,619 --> 00:45:43,246 And when Ronald Reagan runs for president, 941 00:45:43,288 --> 00:45:45,707 he opts to do the same thing 942 00:45:45,749 --> 00:45:49,044 by going to the deep South and invoke state's rights. 943 00:45:49,085 --> 00:45:52,047 That is a deeply considered strategy. 944 00:45:52,088 --> 00:45:56,092 [Johnson] He is saying I can separate the North and the South 945 00:45:56,134 --> 00:46:01,306 by talking about racial issues that will move white Democrats 946 00:46:01,348 --> 00:46:02,766 to the Republican Party, 947 00:46:02,807 --> 00:46:05,018 I can take the same bigotry, I can dress it up 948 00:46:05,060 --> 00:46:06,353 and I can make it something palatable 949 00:46:06,394 --> 00:46:07,520 to people in the suburbs. 950 00:46:07,562 --> 00:46:13,568 You've seen in his campaign the stirrings of hate 951 00:46:13,610 --> 00:46:16,821 and the rebirth of code words like "state's rights" 952 00:46:16,863 --> 00:46:19,741 in a speech in Mississippi. 953 00:46:19,783 --> 00:46:21,368 [Lopez] When Jimmy Carter challenged 954 00:46:21,409 --> 00:46:23,828 Reagan's use of race in the campaign, 955 00:46:23,870 --> 00:46:26,456 the Reagan campaign responded by saying 956 00:46:26,498 --> 00:46:28,583 Carter was being mean to Reagan 957 00:46:28,625 --> 00:46:31,628 as if he was saying Reagan is prejudiced. 958 00:46:31,670 --> 00:46:37,967 I am deeply, deeply offended by the attempts of Mr. Carter 959 00:46:38,009 --> 00:46:40,637 to paint my husband as a man he is not. 960 00:46:40,679 --> 00:46:42,347 That's a cruel thing to do. 961 00:46:42,389 --> 00:46:44,140 [reporter] The president had some rather unkind words for you 962 00:46:44,182 --> 00:46:46,393 last night, Governor. He said if you win the election, 963 00:46:46,434 --> 00:46:48,269 you'll have a divisive effect on the country, 964 00:46:48,311 --> 00:46:51,690 and he suggested that you would separate North from South, 965 00:46:51,731 --> 00:46:54,192 rural from urban, Jew from Christian, 966 00:46:54,234 --> 00:46:55,694 and Black from white. 967 00:46:55,735 --> 00:46:59,864 Well, I think he's a badly misinformed 968 00:46:59,906 --> 00:47:01,116 and prejudiced man. 969 00:47:01,157 --> 00:47:02,742 [man] Thank you, ladies and gentlemen. 970 00:47:02,784 --> 00:47:08,039 The whole fiction of Reagan was that "I am not marginalizing 971 00:47:08,081 --> 00:47:09,666 or dividing the country. 972 00:47:09,708 --> 00:47:12,627 I am finding a more honest, effective way 973 00:47:12,669 --> 00:47:14,421 of helping people." 974 00:47:14,462 --> 00:47:18,007 He packaged this fiction, 975 00:47:18,049 --> 00:47:20,885 and then the only thing that gets in the way 976 00:47:20,927 --> 00:47:22,929 are these bad actors, 977 00:47:22,971 --> 00:47:26,182 welfare mothers, and people of color 978 00:47:26,224 --> 00:47:28,601 and communists and homosexuals. 979 00:47:28,643 --> 00:47:31,146 And people believed it. 980 00:47:31,187 --> 00:47:33,815 [reporter] The Reagan motorcade left Manhattan 981 00:47:33,857 --> 00:47:36,985 for the South Bronx, a high crime, low hope area. 982 00:47:37,026 --> 00:47:40,488 President Carter visited the same site three years ago. 983 00:47:40,530 --> 00:47:42,741 Reagan came, he said, to remind voters 984 00:47:42,782 --> 00:47:46,286 the administration had broken its promise to rebuild the area. 985 00:47:46,327 --> 00:47:48,663 [woman] Go take him now! You his wife! 986 00:47:48,705 --> 00:47:52,417 Señora, you're his wife! Help us, okay? 987 00:47:52,459 --> 00:47:54,002 Help us! 988 00:47:54,043 --> 00:47:56,671 [crowd shouting indistinctly] 989 00:47:56,713 --> 00:47:59,883 I'd just like to point out one thing. 990 00:47:59,924 --> 00:48:02,635 I didn't come down here to make a promise, 991 00:48:02,677 --> 00:48:05,972 I came down here because somebody else made a promise. 992 00:48:06,014 --> 00:48:08,767 [crowd chanting] 993 00:48:12,061 --> 00:48:13,938 [Shearer] Reagan didn't understand 994 00:48:13,980 --> 00:48:16,024 African American life. 995 00:48:16,065 --> 00:48:19,068 He didn't really know Black people. 996 00:48:19,110 --> 00:48:21,821 And that didn't bother him, 997 00:48:21,863 --> 00:48:27,118 but he knew what he was doing when he campaigned. 998 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:29,829 Listen, wait a minute. 999 00:48:29,871 --> 00:48:32,832 [woman] Let the man speak! -Cállate la boca! 1000 00:48:32,874 --> 00:48:34,542 Let him speak! 1001 00:48:34,584 --> 00:48:35,960 Right now... 1002 00:48:36,002 --> 00:48:37,086 [indistinct shouting] 1003 00:48:37,128 --> 00:48:42,425 Right now in...right now in Congress, there's some-- 1004 00:48:43,676 --> 00:48:46,596 -I'm trying to tell you! -[woman] But can you? 1005 00:48:46,638 --> 00:48:51,643 I am trying to tell you that I know now 1006 00:48:51,684 --> 00:48:55,063 there is no program or promise that a president can make... 1007 00:48:55,104 --> 00:48:56,105 [man] Thank you. 1008 00:48:56,147 --> 00:48:57,649 ...that the federal government can come in and-- 1009 00:48:57,690 --> 00:48:59,400 -...wave a wand and do this. 1010 00:48:59,442 --> 00:49:01,444 [Scheer] His stock and trade 1011 00:49:01,486 --> 00:49:04,447 was to say, "I really care about you. 1012 00:49:04,489 --> 00:49:07,492 The people who are spending all that government money 1013 00:49:07,534 --> 00:49:09,410 don't really care. 1014 00:49:09,452 --> 00:49:13,456 But he didn't really have a program, 1015 00:49:13,498 --> 00:49:15,041 didn't have an answer. 1016 00:49:15,083 --> 00:49:17,126 When he got before a crowd like that, 1017 00:49:17,168 --> 00:49:18,962 which was almost never happened, 1018 00:49:19,003 --> 00:49:21,089 he was exposed instantly. 1019 00:49:21,130 --> 00:49:24,300 [crowd shouting] 1020 00:49:24,342 --> 00:49:26,219 intriguing music 1021 00:49:26,261 --> 00:49:29,472 The question of whether my father 1022 00:49:29,514 --> 00:49:31,474 was, in fact, racist in some way 1023 00:49:31,516 --> 00:49:35,144 is a troubling one for me and, uh, 1024 00:49:35,186 --> 00:49:38,857 and one that I don't really know how to answer. 1025 00:49:38,898 --> 00:49:42,443 I never heard him at home 1026 00:49:42,485 --> 00:49:46,322 in private ever saying racist things. 1027 00:49:46,364 --> 00:49:49,200 He certainly didn't use the "N" word. 1028 00:49:49,242 --> 00:49:51,786 Nobody talked like that in our house. 1029 00:49:51,828 --> 00:49:54,622 I do not think Ronald Reagan thought 1030 00:49:54,664 --> 00:49:56,249 he was a racist. 1031 00:49:56,291 --> 00:50:00,962 When he visited us at Yale, my friend asked Governor Reagan, 1032 00:50:01,004 --> 00:50:03,965 "Are there any other Black people you know 1033 00:50:04,007 --> 00:50:06,134 other than Jackie Robinson?" 1034 00:50:06,175 --> 00:50:07,719 And that's where Governor Reagan said, 1035 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,723 "Sammy Davis Jr. is one of my best friends. 1036 00:50:11,764 --> 00:50:14,183 So that means I'm not a racist." 1037 00:50:14,225 --> 00:50:20,315 [Wiley] Ronald Reagan made explicitly racist statements. 1038 00:50:20,356 --> 00:50:23,902 We know that from tapes that were only recently released. 1039 00:50:23,943 --> 00:50:26,571 [woman] President Richard Nixon recorded himself talking 1040 00:50:26,613 --> 00:50:29,198 to then-California Governor Ronald Reagan 1041 00:50:29,240 --> 00:50:33,036 in October 1971, the day after the United Nations 1042 00:50:33,077 --> 00:50:36,080 voted to recognize The People's Republic of China. 1043 00:50:36,122 --> 00:50:37,957 Reagan had phoned Nixon at the White House 1044 00:50:37,999 --> 00:50:40,960 to vent his frustration at African delegates 1045 00:50:41,002 --> 00:50:42,587 who celebrated the vote. 1046 00:50:56,726 --> 00:50:58,895 [Lopez] That sort of quote is only part 1047 00:50:58,937 --> 00:51:01,856 of the larger indictment against Ronald Reagan. 1048 00:51:01,898 --> 00:51:06,903 He should also be criticized for being a national leader 1049 00:51:06,945 --> 00:51:10,323 who made the decision to strategically promote 1050 00:51:10,365 --> 00:51:13,326 racial conflict and hatred as a strategy 1051 00:51:13,368 --> 00:51:17,372 to rile up voters and to win elections. 1052 00:51:17,413 --> 00:51:19,082 [indistinct chatter] 1053 00:51:19,123 --> 00:51:20,750 [Shearer] Voters got the message 1054 00:51:20,792 --> 00:51:23,503 that this was not gonna be a president 1055 00:51:23,544 --> 00:51:26,297 that enforced civil rights or voting rights. 1056 00:51:26,339 --> 00:51:29,425 And you could feel good about voting for him 1057 00:51:29,467 --> 00:51:31,803 because he'd supported Jackie Robinson 1058 00:51:31,844 --> 00:51:33,221 playing baseball. 1059 00:51:33,262 --> 00:51:38,518 Let us pledge to each other, with this great lady looking on, 1060 00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:42,522 that we can, and so help us, God, 1061 00:51:42,563 --> 00:51:46,359 we will make America great again. 1062 00:51:46,401 --> 00:51:47,860 -[crowd cheering] -Thank you very much. 1063 00:51:47,902 --> 00:51:51,072 [cheering] 1064 00:51:51,114 --> 00:51:53,324 [Lopez] Reagan's reputation as a dog whistler 1065 00:51:53,366 --> 00:51:57,203 has not had a sufficiently negative impact on his legacy. 1066 00:51:57,245 --> 00:52:01,290 Dog whistling is all about plausible deniability 1067 00:52:01,332 --> 00:52:04,377 that allowed Reagan to protect himself 1068 00:52:04,419 --> 00:52:06,129 and that has allowed the Republican Party 1069 00:52:06,170 --> 00:52:07,797 for the last four decades 1070 00:52:07,839 --> 00:52:11,009 to deny that that's who Ronald Reagan was, 1071 00:52:11,050 --> 00:52:12,885 to turn him into a hero, 1072 00:52:12,927 --> 00:52:14,929 to insist that he really did care 1073 00:52:14,971 --> 00:52:19,017 about the average American working family. 1074 00:52:19,058 --> 00:52:20,935 But when people stand back, 1075 00:52:20,977 --> 00:52:26,065 they see that, in fact, Reagan was a divisive figure, 1076 00:52:26,107 --> 00:52:29,402 someone willing to do what he knew was wrong 1077 00:52:29,444 --> 00:52:32,363 to divide Americans as a way to win power. 1078 00:52:32,405 --> 00:52:36,909 [Wiley] Reagan's genius as a politician 1079 00:52:36,951 --> 00:52:42,123 was that he wrapped his racism in a façade of fatherly love. 1080 00:52:42,165 --> 00:52:43,458 [crowd cheering] 1081 00:52:43,499 --> 00:52:45,376 And it was something that Black people in this country 1082 00:52:45,418 --> 00:52:49,088 understood was a façade, 1083 00:52:49,130 --> 00:52:52,759 and we understood it by his words and his deeds. 1084 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,928 [Ronald] For those without job opportunities, 1085 00:52:55,970 --> 00:52:57,638 we'll stimulate new opportunities 1086 00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:00,475 particularly in the inner cities where they live. 1087 00:53:00,516 --> 00:53:03,603 For those who've abandoned hope, 1088 00:53:03,644 --> 00:53:04,979 we'll restore hope, 1089 00:53:05,021 --> 00:53:07,356 and we'll welcome them into a great national crusade 1090 00:53:07,398 --> 00:53:10,777 to make America great again. 1091 00:53:10,818 --> 00:53:16,074 [jet roaring] 1092 00:53:18,826 --> 00:53:22,538 We have here what, I think, reasonably 1093 00:53:22,580 --> 00:53:24,207 could be called a landslide 1094 00:53:24,248 --> 00:53:26,959 or certainly something approaching a landslide. 1095 00:53:27,001 --> 00:53:28,628 Where did it come from? 1096 00:53:28,669 --> 00:53:29,879 Nobody anticipated it. 1097 00:53:29,921 --> 00:53:33,424 No polls predicted it. No one saw it coming. 1098 00:53:33,466 --> 00:53:34,717 How did that happen? 1099 00:53:34,759 --> 00:53:37,762 [man] Ronald Reagan-- look at what he has done. 1100 00:53:37,804 --> 00:53:41,099 These are the states in blue that he has won. 1101 00:53:41,140 --> 00:53:43,392 Well, who leads the social counter revolution 1102 00:53:43,434 --> 00:53:44,811 that Teddy Kennedy-- -[man] Lawyers. 1103 00:53:44,852 --> 00:53:46,521 I think it'll be somebody whose name 1104 00:53:46,562 --> 00:53:48,064 is not a household word tonight. 1105 00:53:48,106 --> 00:53:49,774 [man] Try Senator Biden from Delaware for openers. 1106 00:53:49,816 --> 00:53:51,776 Very impressive young guy, 1107 00:53:51,818 --> 00:53:53,277 in his second term, revisionist Democrat. 1108 00:53:53,319 --> 00:53:56,322 [coughs] Wow, okay. 1109 00:53:56,364 --> 00:53:57,532 [laughter] 1110 00:53:57,573 --> 00:53:59,408 All right. 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