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In the criminal justice system,
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sexually based offenses are
considered especially heinous.
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In New York City,
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the dedicated detectives who
investigate these vicious felonies
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are members of an elite squad
known as the Special Victims Unit.
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These are their stories.
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Yeah. Okay, thanks. Come on.
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Go, go, go!
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Police! NYPD! We
have a search warrant!
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What the hell?
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Somebody got here before us.
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Secure it. I don't
want any surprises.
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Too late.
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I better call in SVU.
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We are not handing
this bust over to them.
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Don't worry. I got a buddy.
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Better be good.
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Anonymous phone tip
said somebody was dealing.
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We surveilled a week, caught a
lot of traffic in and out of this place.
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Get our warrant, bust in, find
our alleged dealer sliced and diced.
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Signs of burglary, and by her appearance
I'm guessing she's been raped, too.
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But, you know, I wanted a trained
SVU detective like yourself on the case.
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Rape-homicide falls
on SVU no matter what.
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You didn't have to
hand it to me personally.
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There's a big haul here. Looks
good for my guys to turn it in.
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Yeah, right. You get all the
glory and we get all the work.
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So you trying to tell me that Laura
Ashley here is some kind of big kingpin?
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Where are the drugs?
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You didn't get
the complete tour.
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Over two hundred plants.
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Pull in a couple of
hundred thou on the street.
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Perp missed the jackpot.
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M.E. estimates TOD yesterday
between 9:00 a.m. and 2:00 p.m.
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Looked like about
30 to 40 stab wounds.
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Overkill.
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He either knew her well enough
to hate her or he's psychotic.
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Point of entry looks like
the fire escape window.
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Perp probably waltzed
out the front door.
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Got minimal fluids from the
rape kit, but enough to test.
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You locate a murder weapon?
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Must've taken it with him.
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Three-inch, single-edged,
non-serrated blade.
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About the size of the
knife missing from this?
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Yeah. The other
weapon he left behind.
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Bashed in the back of her
head before he stabbed her.
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Probably enough to knock
her out. No defensive wounds.
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It's not the most
obvious weapon.
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So she surprises him.
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Probably picked up the
first thing he could grab.
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Then he walks all the way
across the apartment for a knife?
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This guy's logic is
all over the place.
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Maybe he's
mentally ill. Or high.
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He covered Mrs.
Oestreicher with this.
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By the amount of blood on the blanket,
I'd say right after he stabbed her.
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So afterwards he gets
remorseful, embarrassed?
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And then sick.
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Our guy must have thrown up.
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It's too far away
to be the victim's.
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Okay, let's send a
sample to the M.E.
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We can compare it to the stomach
contents of our victim, just to be sure.
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I love my job.
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What do we know about
this anonymous phone tip?
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Narcotics traced
it to a neighbor.
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Said she's nosy,
but not homicidal.
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I thought anonymous
tip meant anonymous.
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Like nobody would bug you
about doing your civic duty.
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We certainly don't mean
to inconvenience you.
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But there was a woman
murdered in your building.
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I know. I'm sorry about that.
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But you live that kind of
life, you're asking for it.
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And what kind of life is that?
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Criminal. You should've been
here when she was sparking up.
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Just walking down the
hall you'd get a buzz.
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Marc, get in there and
brush those teeth now.
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So you reported Mrs. Oestreicher
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as a drug dealer because you
smelled dope. That was the only reason?
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What about the
daily Easter parade?
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In and out of there, people banging
on the door all hours of the day.
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Did you ever actually see any of
these deals, any money changing hands?
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No. No, but if she wasn't selling, I
don't know where she got her money.
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She hasn't worked
a day in over a year.
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Autopsy's done.
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So are the preliminary labs
on the fluids from the rape kit.
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Anything interesting?
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Your perp had no sperm.
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Interesting and pathetic.
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I'm not talking low sperm
count. This is azoospermia.
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Zero sperm in the
ejaculate. It's pretty rare.
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So our guy got a vasectomy.
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That's one explanation for it.
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It's also a sign of Kartagener's
Syndrome and Cystic Fibrosis.
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The lab can still extract DNA
from the skin cells in the sample.
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And they're analyzing the vomit.
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We know who puked?
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Victim hadn't eaten in hours,
so it had to come from your perp.
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As far as Miss
Oestreicher is concerned,
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I suspect she would have died within
the year, had she not been murdered.
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What was wrong with her?
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Advanced ovarian cancer.
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She has small radiation burns
on the skin of her abdomen,
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and blood tests reveal
Taxol and carboplatin.
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She was undergoing chemotherapy.
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That explains why
she didn't have a job.
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And why she was growing pot.
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Must have been using it to counteract
the side effects of the cancer treatment.
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Decent levels of
THC in her system.
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But that woman was
growing a forest in there.
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You think she was toking
on all that by herself?
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Maybe she wasn't.
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You know, medicinal marijuana
clubs are popping up everywhere.
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People are pooling their
resources, growing their own stuff.
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Better product without
having to pay street prices.
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Well, if she's running a club, then
there has to be a membership list.
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How many people we looking at?
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According to her day
planner, nearly 100.
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But there's no names.
She only writes initials.
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We got C.K. down the
second Monday of every month.
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J.A.S. every other Saturday.
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Probably a schedule. Members
take turns tending the crop.
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Why the hell you
know so much about it?
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Twenty-five years on the job
and he's still a damn hippie.
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Okay, I got the phone dumps from
Susan Oestreicher for the past six months.
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We got to match the names with
the initials and weed out the potheads.
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Find one club member,
might lead us to the rest.
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Convincing somebody to turn
over that list is not going to be easy.
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People looking at a narcotics
rap tend to be real cooperative.
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Threatening cancer patients.
Now, that's why I became a cop.
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They're breaking the law. I
don't care how sick they are.
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Do you have any idea why
cannabis is illegal in this country?
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Because William Randolph
Hearst's paper mills
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were threatened by
the hemp industry.
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And that's got nothing to do
with the fact that it's a drug.
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What do you call
alcohol and tobacco?
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Legal.
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Here we go.
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For the initials C.K.,
we've got a Cindy Kerber.
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C.K. C.K. Charles Kelsey, Christian
Kessler. This is going to be fun.
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We'll run them all down.
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If they had access to the
victim, they're all suspects.
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We know about your
club, Miss Kerber.
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Then I assume you found
what we were growing.
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Pretty tough to miss. You
guys have very green thumbs.
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We're not hurting anyone
and we're not making a profit.
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We are investigating a murder.
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Now, all we need are the other
names of the members in the club.
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The rest is between us.
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I don't know most of the people
involved. We don't socialize.
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Give us the names of
the people you do know.
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I'm sorry. I can't.
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This woman was raped.
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She was stabbed 38 times.
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You don't want to help us in our
investigation? That is very strange to me.
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Because it wasn't
anyone in the club.
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Some of these people were debilitated
from nausea, from chemotherapy.
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The only thing that controls my tremors
from M.S. is smoking once in a while.
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Why would we kill the
woman who was helping us?
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Maybe she was helping
the wrong person.
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Somebody's sick, doesn't
make them an angel.
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There was some trouble with this one
woman, Becky. Not her, really. Her husband.
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What kind of trouble?
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He threatened Sue. Said
she hooked his wife on drugs.
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Becky was dying from
metastatic breast cancer,
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and he wouldn't allow
her the tiniest bit of relief.
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Well, do you think that
he's capable of murder?
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I know his own wife
was afraid of him.
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Especially after he broke some guy's
back in a bar fight. Went to jail for it.
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I wouldn't touch that bitch.
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Isn't it refreshing to hear such militant
adherence to the "Just Say No" philosophy?
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It's so rare in convicts.
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That incident was an accident.
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I did five years inside,
and now my wife's dead.
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I paid the price. Go
bother somebody else.
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No, we're bothering
you, Mr. Paglione.
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You got an awful lot of hate for the
woman who was trying to comfort your wife.
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Yeah, that's a
real beautiful story.
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Until one of you comes to my house and finds
drugs and busts me for parole violation.
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I was working from 6:00 in the
morning to 4:00, and no lunch break.
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And that's all I'm saying.
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We'll see you back at the house.
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Munch says the
husband's alibi checks out.
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This membership
list is getting smaller.
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Half these people are either
dead or too weak to get out of bed.
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Maybe we're going down the
wrong path with this pot club.
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No, I just can't buy that the murder
and the drugs are a coincidence.
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Susan Oestreicher's neighbor
thought she was a drug dealer.
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What if somebody
else thought so, too?
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An M.E. out of the
morgue? Must be big.
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Captain Cragen told
me you were here.
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Lab finished analyzing the
vomit from the crime scene.
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Hey, am I gonna want to
stop eating before I hear this?
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Pieces of roast beef, a little mozzarella
cheese, kernels of corn and raisins.
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Luckily, they hadn't been
in the stomach very long,
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so everything was
only partially digested.
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Yeah, I'm done.
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And this is good news because?
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My daughter's
in the sixth grade.
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She had that exact meal for lunch
at school on the day of the murder.
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I've got the menu on the
fridge. I called the Board of Ed.
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Every middle school in
Manhattan serves the same lunch.
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No sperm in the ejaculate.
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We're looking for a kid.
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Are we buying in to
this juvenile theory?
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Well, it makes sense.
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The disorganization of the crime scene
indicates an immature thought process.
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The number of stab wounds could mean
he has no real understanding of physiology.
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He just kills the way he thinks
that you're supposed to kill.
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The rape. Sexual curiosity.
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Well, we know the kid went to school
that day long enough to have lunch,
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so he must've
cut out afterwards.
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Well, we're not canvassing
every junior high in the city,
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and I'm not waiting for a DNA analysis
of the puke, so let's hear suggestions.
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Okay, we're looking for a boy
who has a history of fights in school.
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Minor vandalism with
risk-taking behavior.
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Sounds like every
teenage boy on the planet.
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I know. It's not much to go on.
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But adolescent behavior
is inherently unpredictable.
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That's why mental
health care professionals
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won't label a child a sociopath
even if he fits the definition.
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So the profile's wide
open. What else?
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Juvies stay with the familiar.
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Maybe the victim knew this kid.
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And even if she didn't,
he's likely to commit
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the crimes in his
own comfort zone.
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The neighbor who phoned
in the tip to Narcotics.
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Her son looked about 13, right?
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That was Mrs. Lesinski
and her son Marc.
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Maybe he listens to Mom rail
about the drug dealer down the hall,
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he figures he can get
himself some free dope.
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And get some cash for a
new Xbox while he's at it.
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Check him out.
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Look, I told you, Marc
didn't see who killed her.
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He was in school.
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You're sure about that?
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Of course I am.
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00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,739
And the school calls
if he skips class?
236
00:11:49,809 --> 00:11:51,175
What exactly are you asking?
237
00:11:51,244 --> 00:11:53,679
Mrs. Lesinski, we need to
speak with Marc right now.
238
00:11:53,746 --> 00:11:55,057
You think he could
have done this?
239
00:11:55,081 --> 00:11:57,016
He is a child. Are you crazy?
240
00:11:57,784 --> 00:12:01,243
Has Marc bought anything that
he doesn't have the money for?
241
00:12:01,321 --> 00:12:02,321
No.
242
00:12:02,388 --> 00:12:04,448
Have you seen him with...
243
00:12:04,524 --> 00:12:06,925
Seen him with anything
expensive that you didn't give him?
244
00:12:07,994 --> 00:12:10,759
He said it was a
present from a friend.
245
00:12:10,830 --> 00:12:12,870
Come on over here.
Show it to us, will you?
246
00:12:17,303 --> 00:12:18,794
An MP3 player.
247
00:12:20,073 --> 00:12:22,133
Must be a very good
friend to be so generous.
248
00:12:22,208 --> 00:12:25,701
No, the kid's a total geek. He's
always giving stuff to people.
249
00:12:25,778 --> 00:12:27,576
Oh. This total geek have a name?
250
00:12:27,647 --> 00:12:29,411
Jeremy Brice.
251
00:12:29,482 --> 00:12:31,562
Mmm-hmm. Where do
you think Jeremy got that?
252
00:12:32,719 --> 00:12:35,639
Did you tell him that you had a drug
dealer living down the hall from you?
253
00:12:35,688 --> 00:12:36,815
Yeah. What'd you say?
254
00:12:38,224 --> 00:12:41,888
I said that she's probably got some pretty
cool stuff, you know, 'cause she deals.
255
00:12:41,961 --> 00:12:45,625
So don't you think it's possible that
he got it from Mrs. Oestreicher's place?
256
00:12:45,698 --> 00:12:47,291
I don't know, maybe.
257
00:12:47,367 --> 00:12:49,268
But there's no way
Jeremy killed her.
258
00:12:50,436 --> 00:12:52,166
Well, how do you know that?
259
00:12:52,238 --> 00:12:53,900
He's just not that cool.
260
00:12:56,276 --> 00:12:58,575
It is almost 8:00.
Everybody's already left.
261
00:12:58,645 --> 00:13:00,671
Let's pull him out of school.
262
00:13:02,515 --> 00:13:05,178
Liv. Liv. Kids
waiting for the bus.
263
00:13:09,956 --> 00:13:12,858
Hi, guys. Anyone
know Jeremy Brice?
264
00:13:12,925 --> 00:13:14,052
Who?
265
00:13:14,127 --> 00:13:15,151
Jeremy Brice.
266
00:13:15,228 --> 00:13:16,287
There.
267
00:13:18,298 --> 00:13:19,732
You Jeremy?
268
00:13:21,301 --> 00:13:22,667
Relax, relax, relax, Jeremy.
269
00:13:22,735 --> 00:13:23,862
I didn't do anything!
270
00:13:23,936 --> 00:13:26,132
We're the police. We want
to talk to you. Just relax.
271
00:13:26,205 --> 00:13:29,664
Jeremy, that looks like blood.
272
00:13:29,742 --> 00:13:31,973
No, it isn't.
273
00:13:32,045 --> 00:13:34,571
We're going down to the
police station, Jeremy, all right?
274
00:13:34,647 --> 00:13:35,774
Where are your parents?
275
00:13:35,848 --> 00:13:37,714
I have to go to
school. I have to...
276
00:13:40,887 --> 00:13:43,618
You made a mistake.
Jeremy was in school all day.
277
00:13:43,690 --> 00:13:44,817
We checked, Mrs. Brice.
278
00:13:44,891 --> 00:13:48,020
Jeremy's teachers told us
that he was absent after lunch.
279
00:13:48,094 --> 00:13:49,460
You skipped school?
280
00:13:49,529 --> 00:13:50,758
No.
281
00:13:50,830 --> 00:13:54,130
Jeremy? Jeremy,
look at me a second.
282
00:13:55,301 --> 00:13:57,541
You know you're not supposed
to lie to the police, right?
283
00:13:57,570 --> 00:13:58,629
I'm not lying.
284
00:13:58,705 --> 00:14:01,470
Where'd you get the MP3 player
you gave to your buddy Marc?
285
00:14:03,509 --> 00:14:05,410
I gave him that
for his birthday.
286
00:14:09,749 --> 00:14:11,650
Do you know a lady
named Susan Oestreicher?
287
00:14:11,718 --> 00:14:12,811
No.
288
00:14:12,885 --> 00:14:16,378
You sure? She's the woman
that lives right next door to Marc.
289
00:14:16,456 --> 00:14:18,857
Jeremy, you went
into that apartment,
290
00:14:18,925 --> 00:14:21,087
and something bad
happened there, didn't it?
291
00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:22,924
I didn't go anywhere.
292
00:14:22,995 --> 00:14:26,955
Jeremy, these are your fingerprints that
your mom let us take when you got here.
293
00:14:28,835 --> 00:14:30,360
Remember that?
294
00:14:32,905 --> 00:14:36,364
These are the ones that we found
in Miss Oestreicher's apartment.
295
00:14:38,311 --> 00:14:40,143
They're exactly the same.
296
00:14:40,213 --> 00:14:41,511
No, they're not.
297
00:14:41,581 --> 00:14:45,382
They are. This tells me
you were in that apartment.
298
00:14:45,451 --> 00:14:46,817
No, it doesn't.
299
00:14:46,886 --> 00:14:49,253
Jeremy, what happened?
300
00:14:49,322 --> 00:14:52,952
Nothing. Why is
everybody picking on me?
301
00:14:55,795 --> 00:14:57,821
We'll take another crack
at him once he calms down.
302
00:14:57,897 --> 00:14:59,559
Well, we know he
was in the apartment.
303
00:14:59,632 --> 00:15:02,761
Once the labs come back on the forensic
evidence, we won't need a confession.
304
00:15:02,835 --> 00:15:03,928
A typical kid.
305
00:15:04,003 --> 00:15:06,302
Thinks if he denies
everything, it'll just go away.
306
00:15:06,372 --> 00:15:09,536
He's 14. Eligible to
be tried as an adult.
307
00:15:09,609 --> 00:15:12,807
Murder two. Would've
been eligible if he was 13.
308
00:15:12,879 --> 00:15:14,370
He look like a grownup to you?
309
00:15:14,447 --> 00:15:17,417
He brutally raped and
murdered a 34-year-old woman.
310
00:15:17,483 --> 00:15:18,507
That's a grownup crime.
311
00:15:18,584 --> 00:15:21,281
He's not crying for his
victim, he's crying for himself.
312
00:15:21,354 --> 00:15:23,346
Guess you can't blame
him. His life is over.
313
00:15:23,423 --> 00:15:27,793
Labs are back. Blood on Jeremy's
coat matched the victim's type.
314
00:15:27,860 --> 00:15:29,419
Sounds like your job is done.
315
00:15:29,495 --> 00:15:30,724
No. We're not that lucky.
316
00:15:30,797 --> 00:15:33,596
Lab's determined that the
rapist's blood was a type B.
317
00:15:33,666 --> 00:15:35,760
I got Jeremy's from
his school. He's type O.
318
00:15:35,835 --> 00:15:37,599
He had a partner. Yeah.
319
00:15:37,670 --> 00:15:39,571
No sperm, so it's
got to be another kid.
320
00:15:39,639 --> 00:15:41,574
Well, what about
that neighbor's boy?
321
00:15:41,641 --> 00:15:43,218
Well, I checked him.
He didn't skip school
322
00:15:43,242 --> 00:15:45,507
and went to basketball
practice afterwards.
323
00:15:45,578 --> 00:15:49,413
Can we hold off on charging Jeremy
as an adult till we get the story straight?
324
00:15:49,482 --> 00:15:52,418
Well, he's 14, so he's automatically
arraigned in Supreme Court.
325
00:15:52,485 --> 00:15:54,430
But if you can prove to me
he wasn't the primary actor,
326
00:15:54,454 --> 00:15:56,480
I will recommend he be
removed to Family Court.
327
00:15:56,556 --> 00:15:58,252
Find out who his friends are.
328
00:16:02,395 --> 00:16:05,331
We're no strangers to police
inquiring about some of our students,
329
00:16:05,398 --> 00:16:08,163
but I am surprised to hear
you're investigating Mr. Brice.
330
00:16:08,234 --> 00:16:10,066
Jeremy's not a troublemaker?
331
00:16:10,136 --> 00:16:12,071
I don't know him,
so I guess not.
332
00:16:12,138 --> 00:16:14,039
1,500 students, Detectives.
333
00:16:14,106 --> 00:16:15,734
I only got time
for the bad eggs.
334
00:16:15,808 --> 00:16:18,175
You're saying he's a
model student, then.
335
00:16:18,244 --> 00:16:22,682
Academically, yes. He does very
well. Especially in math and art.
336
00:16:22,748 --> 00:16:27,413
But he was recently diagnosed as
dyslexic, and according to his file,
337
00:16:27,487 --> 00:16:31,254
his fifth grade teacher cited social
problems made him repeat the year.
338
00:16:31,324 --> 00:16:33,054
What kind of social problems?
339
00:16:33,125 --> 00:16:35,651
Well, I spoke with Jeremy's
teachers this morning,
340
00:16:35,728 --> 00:16:38,163
and he's a little
behind maturity-wise.
341
00:16:38,231 --> 00:16:40,063
He has some trouble fitting in.
342
00:16:40,132 --> 00:16:43,068
But again, nothing to suggest
any serious discipline problems.
343
00:16:43,135 --> 00:16:45,661
Teachers give you the
names of Jeremy's friends?
344
00:16:45,738 --> 00:16:47,229
That's the thing, no one knew.
345
00:16:47,306 --> 00:16:48,899
Seems he really
doesn't have any.
346
00:16:50,877 --> 00:16:53,889
We're going to need a list of all the boys
that were absent the day of the murder,
347
00:16:53,913 --> 00:16:56,433
and we're going to need your
permission to search their lockers.
348
00:17:04,390 --> 00:17:07,070
I find any dead animals in here,
I'm going to deputize you for this.
349
00:17:07,126 --> 00:17:08,287
Got him.
350
00:17:08,361 --> 00:17:09,454
What'd you find?
351
00:17:09,529 --> 00:17:11,191
Susan Oestreicher.
352
00:17:16,269 --> 00:17:18,101
And the weapon that killed her.
353
00:17:19,639 --> 00:17:21,232
This is a surprise.
354
00:17:21,307 --> 00:17:25,745
Locker 142 belongs to
Zachary Connor, a sixth-grader.
355
00:17:26,412 --> 00:17:29,177
I'll get his schedule and
we'll find him in his next class.
356
00:17:29,248 --> 00:17:31,410
I think he found us already.
357
00:17:32,552 --> 00:17:33,781
What happened to my locker?
358
00:17:37,690 --> 00:17:39,818
Zachary Connor is 12 years old.
359
00:17:39,892 --> 00:17:42,804
I tell you, I've been on this job a
long time, some things still surprise me.
360
00:17:42,828 --> 00:17:44,558
You'll get over it. His
parents coming in?
361
00:17:44,630 --> 00:17:46,394
They should be here any minute.
362
00:17:46,465 --> 00:17:48,730
We're going on 12 hours
holding Jeremy Brice.
363
00:17:48,801 --> 00:17:50,599
He and his mother
are still in interrogation.
364
00:17:50,670 --> 00:17:55,074
And they're staying until we know his
exact involvement in this woman's death.
365
00:17:55,141 --> 00:17:56,700
Munch is still at the crime lab.
366
00:17:56,776 --> 00:17:59,302
CSU lifted three sets
of prints off of that knife.
367
00:17:59,378 --> 00:18:02,610
One unknown, one the victim's,
and one belonging to Jeremy.
368
00:18:02,682 --> 00:18:06,778
Captain, these are
Zachary Connor's parents.
369
00:18:06,852 --> 00:18:08,946
Mr. and Mrs. Connor,
thank you for making it down.
370
00:18:09,021 --> 00:18:11,650
Nobody's told us
anything. Is Zach all right?
371
00:18:11,724 --> 00:18:12,851
Well, he's fine. Fine.
372
00:18:12,925 --> 00:18:15,360
We think he might know
something about a crime.
373
00:18:15,428 --> 00:18:17,124
Now, Ted here
will get you settled,
374
00:18:17,196 --> 00:18:19,859
and in a minute a detective
will explain everything to you.
375
00:18:19,932 --> 00:18:22,458
He's never been in trouble
before, Captain. Not once.
376
00:18:27,740 --> 00:18:29,800
Is that true? No
trouble with this boy?
377
00:18:29,875 --> 00:18:32,208
Straight As. Not a mark
on his school record.
378
00:18:33,312 --> 00:18:34,974
Let's go easy on this.
379
00:18:35,047 --> 00:18:37,312
Finesse them. See if
one turns on the other.
380
00:18:37,383 --> 00:18:38,874
Fin, you take Zachary
and his parents.
381
00:18:38,951 --> 00:18:41,284
You guys take
another run at Jeremy.
382
00:18:41,354 --> 00:18:43,949
Set up video cameras
and monitors in both rooms.
383
00:18:44,023 --> 00:18:46,219
I'll call in Cabot and
Huang to observe.
384
00:18:47,493 --> 00:18:50,053
Remember where you were
day before yesterday, Zachary?
385
00:18:50,129 --> 00:18:51,893
At school. And then I went home.
386
00:18:51,964 --> 00:18:53,796
You there all day? Yeah.
387
00:18:53,866 --> 00:18:55,143
Well, I talked to your teachers,
388
00:18:55,167 --> 00:18:58,137
and they said that you missed
all your classes after lunch.
389
00:18:58,204 --> 00:18:59,729
I was in the library.
390
00:19:00,439 --> 00:19:02,135
I had to study for a math test.
391
00:19:02,208 --> 00:19:03,836
He does have a
big test coming up.
392
00:19:03,909 --> 00:19:06,435
Okay. You know Jeremy Brice?
393
00:19:06,512 --> 00:19:07,707
He's a seventh-grader.
394
00:19:07,780 --> 00:19:08,839
Friend of yours?
395
00:19:08,914 --> 00:19:10,212
No. I don't like him.
396
00:19:11,117 --> 00:19:13,643
You didn't hang out with him
at all day before yesterday?
397
00:19:13,719 --> 00:19:16,188
No. He's dorky.
And he's a bully.
398
00:19:17,790 --> 00:19:18,951
You got a knife, Zach?
399
00:19:19,025 --> 00:19:20,118
A what?
400
00:19:21,260 --> 00:19:22,660
You mean the one in my locker.
401
00:19:22,728 --> 00:19:24,321
Where'd you get it?
402
00:19:24,997 --> 00:19:28,434
I found it in the dumpster behind
the school. And the wallet, too.
403
00:19:28,501 --> 00:19:30,527
What were you looking
for in the garbage?
404
00:19:31,904 --> 00:19:33,736
Well, sometimes they
throw out cool things.
405
00:19:33,806 --> 00:19:35,570
Once I found new markers.
406
00:19:35,641 --> 00:19:36,973
Yeah, that is cool.
407
00:19:37,043 --> 00:19:40,946
So why'd you take the knife and
wallet and put them in your locker?
408
00:19:41,013 --> 00:19:42,379
I was gonna turn them in.
409
00:19:42,448 --> 00:19:45,577
I thought someone lost
them. But then I forgot.
410
00:19:45,651 --> 00:19:47,381
Did you know there
was blood on that knife?
411
00:19:47,453 --> 00:19:48,921
Oh, my God.
412
00:19:48,988 --> 00:19:50,957
I thought it was fake.
413
00:19:51,023 --> 00:19:54,152
But you should ask Jeremy.
He told me where to find it.
414
00:19:55,594 --> 00:19:57,358
So, Jeremy, you want a drink?
415
00:19:57,430 --> 00:19:58,864
No. I want to go home.
416
00:19:58,931 --> 00:20:00,024
Well, I know you do.
417
00:20:00,099 --> 00:20:03,278
But the reason that we have to stay here
is because you're not telling us the truth.
418
00:20:03,302 --> 00:20:04,736
Yes, I am.
419
00:20:04,804 --> 00:20:07,638
Jeremy, we picked up your
friend Zachary at school today.
420
00:20:08,741 --> 00:20:10,141
Zach's here?
421
00:20:10,209 --> 00:20:12,689
He's right in the next room,
speaking to one of our detectives.
422
00:20:13,713 --> 00:20:15,648
What do you think
he's going to say?
423
00:20:17,183 --> 00:20:18,446
Nothing.
424
00:20:18,984 --> 00:20:21,044
I think he might.
425
00:20:23,055 --> 00:20:24,866
Look, I know you don't
want to get him in trouble,
426
00:20:24,890 --> 00:20:27,758
but you've got to tell
us what happened.
427
00:20:27,827 --> 00:20:31,286
Even if it's something that's really,
really bad, you've got to tell us.
428
00:20:36,035 --> 00:20:37,833
Zach's my best friend.
429
00:20:37,903 --> 00:20:40,668
You can't make me say
he did something bad.
430
00:20:40,740 --> 00:20:42,971
He didn't do anything.
431
00:20:45,845 --> 00:20:47,438
Jeremy's in for a
rude awakening.
432
00:20:47,513 --> 00:20:49,106
His best friend's
about to flip on him.
433
00:20:50,182 --> 00:20:53,084
What I find hard to believe is
how a kid as young as Zachary
434
00:20:53,152 --> 00:20:54,848
is physically capable of rape.
435
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:58,687
Biologically, all he needs is enough
testosterone to achieve an erection.
436
00:20:58,758 --> 00:21:01,728
These days, boys reach
puberty as early as nine years old.
437
00:21:01,794 --> 00:21:04,787
Add to that an ill woman,
weakened by chemotherapy.
438
00:21:04,864 --> 00:21:07,834
She's the perfect victim
for a 90-pound rapist.
439
00:21:07,900 --> 00:21:09,664
You think he did it?
440
00:21:10,836 --> 00:21:12,327
I think he's lying.
441
00:21:12,404 --> 00:21:16,068
He keeps changing his story so that
it's just plausible enough to be true.
442
00:21:16,142 --> 00:21:17,633
He's involved.
443
00:21:20,813 --> 00:21:21,940
What's all this?
444
00:21:22,014 --> 00:21:23,573
Interrogation tactics, Captain.
445
00:21:23,649 --> 00:21:26,448
A few special mementos
from Zachary Connor's locker.
446
00:21:28,621 --> 00:21:30,647
This is Detective
Munch, my partner.
447
00:21:30,723 --> 00:21:32,534
How much longer do
we need to be here?
448
00:21:32,558 --> 00:21:34,390
Entirely up to your
son, Mr. Connor.
449
00:21:34,460 --> 00:21:35,655
Is that your book?
450
00:21:35,728 --> 00:21:37,890
I don't know. All
our books look alike.
451
00:21:37,963 --> 00:21:40,125
Oh, yeah? Is that your name?
452
00:21:40,766 --> 00:21:42,394
Yeah. Then that
must be yours, right?
453
00:21:44,503 --> 00:21:47,667
What is this about? It's his
book. Why does it matter?
454
00:21:47,740 --> 00:21:51,643
We also have a CD
labeled with your initials,
455
00:21:51,710 --> 00:21:55,943
a pen, a magazine
subscription sticker in your name.
456
00:21:56,015 --> 00:21:58,007
You know where I got them?
457
00:21:58,083 --> 00:21:59,449
In my locker at school?
458
00:21:59,518 --> 00:22:02,181
Right. You know what else
they have in common? Hmm?
459
00:22:02,955 --> 00:22:04,253
Detective Tutuola?
460
00:22:04,323 --> 00:22:06,258
Covered with his fingerprints.
461
00:22:06,325 --> 00:22:07,884
Correct. Just a minute.
462
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,485
Now, Zach, you're
a bright young man.
463
00:22:09,562 --> 00:22:12,532
You understand that every
time you touch something,
464
00:22:12,598 --> 00:22:14,533
you leave a fingerprint behind.
465
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,434
So I want you to think real hard
before you answer this question.
466
00:22:17,503 --> 00:22:21,406
Were you ever in an apartment on
Avenue C where a woman was killed?
467
00:22:21,473 --> 00:22:23,135
Oh, what the hell?
468
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:30,847
I was in that lady's
apartment with Jeremy.
469
00:22:31,817 --> 00:22:33,183
He killed her.
470
00:22:36,522 --> 00:22:40,391
Hey, Jeremy, I think you
might want to see this.
471
00:22:41,694 --> 00:22:43,390
Whose idea was it?
472
00:22:45,130 --> 00:22:46,428
Jeremy's.
473
00:22:46,966 --> 00:22:49,026
To rob her or to kill her?
474
00:22:49,401 --> 00:22:50,801
Everything.
475
00:22:52,037 --> 00:22:53,767
He said she had lots of money.
476
00:22:55,207 --> 00:22:57,142
But then she came home.
477
00:22:59,111 --> 00:23:01,444
He made me do bad things to her.
478
00:23:01,513 --> 00:23:03,345
He made me touch her.
479
00:23:04,683 --> 00:23:06,914
And then Jeremy got the knife
480
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,216
and he killed her.
481
00:23:11,090 --> 00:23:13,218
What happened after that?
482
00:23:13,292 --> 00:23:14,692
I ran away.
483
00:23:16,996 --> 00:23:18,487
I was scared.
484
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,899
Jeremy. No.
485
00:23:23,969 --> 00:23:26,200
Jeremy, is that what happened?
486
00:23:26,272 --> 00:23:27,763
He's lying!
487
00:23:29,041 --> 00:23:31,067
So you tell us the truth.
488
00:23:35,347 --> 00:23:37,509
I didn't want
anyone to get hurt.
489
00:23:39,118 --> 00:23:41,952
Was it your idea to break
into that woman's apartment?
490
00:23:44,590 --> 00:23:46,582
Jeremy, why would you do that?
491
00:23:47,593 --> 00:23:50,028
Zach thought it was cool.
492
00:23:50,095 --> 00:23:52,997
Was it cool when you took the
telephone and bashed her head in?
493
00:23:53,065 --> 00:23:56,331
I didn't do that, Zach did.
494
00:23:56,402 --> 00:23:58,234
Do I listen to his
story or yours?
495
00:24:01,173 --> 00:24:02,698
She fell down.
496
00:24:03,909 --> 00:24:05,571
She was bleeding.
497
00:24:06,712 --> 00:24:09,580
Zach said to get a
knife from the kitchen.
498
00:24:10,249 --> 00:24:14,016
I didn't want to, but he
was screaming at me.
499
00:24:15,087 --> 00:24:17,420
I didn't know what he was
going to do with it, I swear.
500
00:24:17,489 --> 00:24:21,585
So you got the knife,
and then what happened?
501
00:24:23,595 --> 00:24:27,691
When I walked back in,
Zach was on top of her.
502
00:24:28,734 --> 00:24:32,728
He took the knife and he
stabbed her over and over.
503
00:24:33,806 --> 00:24:35,900
There was all this
blood and I threw up!
504
00:24:35,975 --> 00:24:39,377
I'm sorry. I'm
really, really sorry!
505
00:24:42,448 --> 00:24:43,472
I'm sorry.
506
00:24:43,549 --> 00:24:46,451
Jeremy, who covered
her up with the blanket?
507
00:24:48,420 --> 00:24:49,615
I did.
508
00:24:51,023 --> 00:24:53,686
You shouldn't leave
someone like that.
509
00:24:55,661 --> 00:24:57,323
Can I go home now?
510
00:24:58,163 --> 00:25:00,098
I just want to go home.
511
00:25:00,899 --> 00:25:03,095
I want to go home.
512
00:25:03,168 --> 00:25:06,366
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
513
00:25:11,010 --> 00:25:12,945
CSU finished with Zach's house?
514
00:25:13,012 --> 00:25:16,005
Top to bottom. No blood. Must have
tossed the clothes he was wearing.
515
00:25:16,081 --> 00:25:17,841
So we've got two kids,
two different stories,
516
00:25:17,883 --> 00:25:19,527
and either one of them
could have killed her.
517
00:25:19,551 --> 00:25:21,850
Which means I have
an even bigger problem.
518
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,583
Whether or not to try
Jeremy Brice as an adult.
519
00:25:24,656 --> 00:25:26,147
Zachary Connor is 12.
520
00:25:26,225 --> 00:25:29,024
So even if he acted alone,
he's out of my jurisdiction.
521
00:25:29,094 --> 00:25:30,619
He is going to Family Court.
522
00:25:30,696 --> 00:25:33,063
And what kind of punishment
is kiddie court handing out
523
00:25:33,132 --> 00:25:34,896
for rapists and
murderers these days?
524
00:25:34,967 --> 00:25:37,300
Their mandate is
rehabilitation, not punishment.
525
00:25:37,369 --> 00:25:41,830
So the maximum sentence is 18
months in a limited secure facility.
526
00:25:41,907 --> 00:25:44,001
And Jeremy's
looking at life in Attica.
527
00:25:44,076 --> 00:25:46,944
If the D.A. thinks he's
a danger to society, yes.
528
00:25:47,012 --> 00:25:50,141
Okay, I got to tell you that I believe
Jeremy's version of the events.
529
00:25:50,215 --> 00:25:53,845
You know, this kid is more of a
danger to himself than anybody else.
530
00:25:53,919 --> 00:25:56,286
Doc, you saw both
interviews. What do you think?
531
00:25:56,355 --> 00:25:57,948
I agree with you.
532
00:25:58,023 --> 00:25:59,787
Jeremy is more
easily manipulated.
533
00:25:59,858 --> 00:26:01,952
He's desperate
to fit in at any cost,
534
00:26:02,027 --> 00:26:04,587
whereas Zachary is
far more calculating.
535
00:26:04,663 --> 00:26:07,132
I think he wields a great
deal of control over Jeremy,
536
00:26:07,199 --> 00:26:10,601
and I think he murdered
and raped Susan Oestreicher.
537
00:26:11,470 --> 00:26:15,737
So the question is do we go after
Jeremy because we can't get Zachary?
538
00:26:18,210 --> 00:26:19,269
No.
539
00:26:19,745 --> 00:26:22,305
I'll recommend we remove
Jeremy to family court.
540
00:26:32,424 --> 00:26:35,656
The D.A. is seeking an
indictment against Jeremy Brice.
541
00:26:35,727 --> 00:26:37,821
You've got one day to
prepare for the grand jury.
542
00:26:37,896 --> 00:26:39,524
On what charges?
543
00:26:39,598 --> 00:26:41,123
Felony murder and burglary one.
544
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,135
I recommended against it.
545
00:26:43,202 --> 00:26:44,465
Well, the D.A. disagreed.
546
00:26:44,536 --> 00:26:48,940
But the evidence clearly indicates that
Jeremy Brice's involvement was limited.
547
00:26:49,007 --> 00:26:51,476
The DNA proves that Zachary
Connor committed the rape.
548
00:26:51,543 --> 00:26:54,707
Jeremy already confessed
to participating in the burglary.
549
00:26:54,780 --> 00:26:55,857
That's the predicate felony.
550
00:26:55,881 --> 00:26:57,959
He knew it was dangerous, he
knew someone could be killed.
551
00:26:57,983 --> 00:26:59,474
No, he didn't.
552
00:26:59,551 --> 00:27:02,180
This boy is not mature
enough to understand that.
553
00:27:02,254 --> 00:27:04,052
The law says he is.
554
00:27:04,123 --> 00:27:07,423
That legislation
was passed in 1978
555
00:27:07,493 --> 00:27:10,861
as a knee-jerk reaction to some
perceived youth crime wave.
556
00:27:10,929 --> 00:27:13,524
It also says that we
prosecute juveniles as adults
557
00:27:13,599 --> 00:27:16,501
at the discretion of
the district attorney.
558
00:27:16,568 --> 00:27:19,003
He made the call.
You do your job.
559
00:27:19,671 --> 00:27:22,038
Which should be easy enough
with Jeremy's confession.
560
00:27:23,242 --> 00:27:25,143
A win for the D.A.
561
00:27:25,210 --> 00:27:27,179
So that's what this is about.
562
00:27:27,246 --> 00:27:29,023
'Cause I'd like to know just
how much of a sycophant
563
00:27:29,047 --> 00:27:31,846
I have to be in this
new administration.
564
00:27:33,752 --> 00:27:35,550
Let's say you're right.
565
00:27:35,621 --> 00:27:37,351
Let's say Zachary
Connor did everything.
566
00:27:37,422 --> 00:27:40,915
That means every step of the
way, Jeremy Brice had a choice.
567
00:27:41,593 --> 00:27:43,687
Do the right thing or
do the wrong thing.
568
00:27:44,863 --> 00:27:48,595
Watch your friend rape a
defenseless woman or stop him,
569
00:27:48,667 --> 00:27:51,603
run away or give him the knife
so he can stab her to death.
570
00:27:52,538 --> 00:27:54,404
Do we punish him for this?
571
00:27:54,473 --> 00:27:57,807
Or do we tell him that there are
no consequences for his actions?
572
00:27:57,876 --> 00:28:01,438
We remove him to Family
Court in hopes of rehabilitation.
573
00:28:02,347 --> 00:28:05,374
That won't happen if he
goes J.O. and you know it.
574
00:28:05,450 --> 00:28:08,750
You have more faith in the
Juvenile Justice Department than I do.
575
00:28:13,392 --> 00:28:16,089
You're adamantly opposed
to prosecuting this case?
576
00:28:16,161 --> 00:28:18,926
Yes. I think it's wrong.
577
00:28:20,566 --> 00:28:21,932
All right.
578
00:28:22,868 --> 00:28:24,461
Then I'll do it.
579
00:28:26,805 --> 00:28:28,569
You're second chair.
580
00:28:34,646 --> 00:28:37,878
Elizabeth Donnelly
is back trying cases?
581
00:28:37,950 --> 00:28:41,148
Or did your new boss
demote you already?
582
00:28:41,220 --> 00:28:44,918
Funny comments like that, it's a
wonder both your legs aren't broken.
583
00:28:44,990 --> 00:28:47,255
You get attacked by one of
your repeat offenders again?
584
00:28:47,326 --> 00:28:50,592
No, actually one of your esteemed
colleagues knocked me off a curb.
585
00:28:50,662 --> 00:28:52,153
There's a law suit pending.
586
00:28:53,065 --> 00:28:56,058
Alexandra Cabot, Gina
Bernardo, public defender.
587
00:28:56,134 --> 00:28:57,158
Nice to meet you.
588
00:28:57,236 --> 00:29:01,435
So the D.A. has assembled a
legal dream team to crucify a child.
589
00:29:01,506 --> 00:29:03,839
You know as well as I
do charging Jeremy Brice
590
00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:06,105
as an adult is a
gross injustice.
591
00:29:06,178 --> 00:29:07,942
Tell that to Susan
Oestreicher's family.
592
00:29:08,013 --> 00:29:11,415
You honestly believe he deserves
to be charged for murder two?
593
00:29:11,483 --> 00:29:13,315
The grand jury did.
594
00:29:13,385 --> 00:29:16,321
You can't possibly hold my
client responsible for something
595
00:29:16,388 --> 00:29:19,483
it's impossible for him
to be responsible for.
596
00:29:20,425 --> 00:29:22,587
Notification of
affirmative defense.
597
00:29:22,661 --> 00:29:25,859
Not guilty by reason of
mental disease or defect.
598
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,800
What defect?
599
00:29:30,836 --> 00:29:33,237
His 14-year-old brain.
600
00:29:34,406 --> 00:29:35,984
Your Honor, this is
an obvious attempt
601
00:29:36,008 --> 00:29:37,533
to backdoor the
defense of infancy.
602
00:29:37,609 --> 00:29:41,774
Article 30 clearly states that defense cannot
be used for juveniles charged with murder.
603
00:29:41,847 --> 00:29:45,306
I'm not saying that my client isn't
responsible because of his age.
604
00:29:45,384 --> 00:29:48,650
I am saying he isn't responsible
because of his diminished capacity.
605
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,815
Dictated by his age.
It's the same thing.
606
00:29:51,890 --> 00:29:54,435
This is a legislative issue, Your
Honor, not a matter for the court.
607
00:29:54,459 --> 00:29:58,055
Then why did three Supreme
Court justices draft a public statement
608
00:29:58,130 --> 00:30:00,690
calling for the abolishment
of juvenile executions?
609
00:30:00,766 --> 00:30:04,965
Because it is cruel and unusual to
impose adult punishment on someone
610
00:30:05,037 --> 00:30:06,903
who isn't capable
of adult thought.
611
00:30:06,972 --> 00:30:09,168
Couldn't one argue
then that certain behavior,
612
00:30:09,241 --> 00:30:13,542
such as the committing of a
violent crime, proves adult thought?
613
00:30:13,612 --> 00:30:16,980
No. If your 10-year-old son
takes your car out for a joy ride,
614
00:30:17,049 --> 00:30:19,382
do you automatically
hand him a driver's license?
615
00:30:19,451 --> 00:30:21,095
This is all very
interesting, Ms. Bernardo,
616
00:30:21,119 --> 00:30:24,351
but I fail to see how any of this
applies to an insanity defense.
617
00:30:24,423 --> 00:30:26,187
These are scientific studies
618
00:30:26,258 --> 00:30:30,195
proving that an adolescent's brain is
significantly different than an adult's.
619
00:30:30,262 --> 00:30:34,131
That, in fact, our brains aren't fully
formed until we're in our early 20s.
620
00:30:34,199 --> 00:30:36,259
And I can present
scientific studies which prove
621
00:30:36,335 --> 00:30:38,998
my cat is trying to
kill me in my sleep.
622
00:30:39,071 --> 00:30:40,232
Daubert test, Your Honor.
623
00:30:40,305 --> 00:30:43,742
Scientific evidence must meet federal
standards of relevance and reliability.
624
00:30:43,809 --> 00:30:47,268
Well, one of the studies was done by
the National Institute of Mental Health.
625
00:30:47,346 --> 00:30:49,679
Is the federal government
reliable enough for you?
626
00:30:49,748 --> 00:30:52,946
The reliability of the
studies isn't in question.
627
00:30:53,018 --> 00:30:57,149
My job is to determine whether or
not they have any material value.
628
00:30:57,222 --> 00:30:58,884
I believe they do.
629
00:30:59,758 --> 00:31:02,523
And I believe the
jury should hear them.
630
00:31:06,998 --> 00:31:10,901
Dr. Hayman, can you tell us about
the study you recently completed?
631
00:31:10,969 --> 00:31:13,734
We used functional
magnetic resonance imaging
632
00:31:13,805 --> 00:31:16,775
to map the brains of healthy
adolescents over several years
633
00:31:16,842 --> 00:31:19,073
and compared them to
those of healthy adults.
634
00:31:19,144 --> 00:31:21,204
And what did your study find?
635
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:24,807
For adolescents, brain activity
is much higher in the amygdala,
636
00:31:24,883 --> 00:31:28,012
which guides instincts
like fear or anger.
637
00:31:28,086 --> 00:31:31,318
In adults, the activity in
the frontal lobe is higher,
638
00:31:31,390 --> 00:31:34,622
and that's the seat of
reasoning and good judgment.
639
00:31:34,693 --> 00:31:37,663
So what are the
conclusions of your findings?
640
00:31:37,729 --> 00:31:41,188
Adolescents are
physiologically prone
641
00:31:41,266 --> 00:31:43,531
to impulsive and
irrational behavior.
642
00:31:43,602 --> 00:31:50,008
So teenagers are moody and
unpredictable, and even violent,
643
00:31:50,075 --> 00:31:51,976
because they are wired that way?
644
00:31:52,043 --> 00:31:53,773
Objection. Leading.
645
00:31:53,845 --> 00:31:55,211
Sustained.
646
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,681
That's all. No
further questions.
647
00:32:00,819 --> 00:32:07,692
So, your study says that teenagers
are impulsive and irrational.
648
00:32:11,396 --> 00:32:13,797
Here's what I don't understand.
649
00:32:13,865 --> 00:32:17,859
If that's true, how is it
that every single teenager
650
00:32:17,936 --> 00:32:20,462
isn't a rapist or a murderer?
651
00:32:20,539 --> 00:32:24,374
I believe I said adolescents
were prone to certain behaviors.
652
00:32:24,443 --> 00:32:28,380
Then some teenagers are
perfectly reasonable and rational.
653
00:32:28,447 --> 00:32:29,540
Yes.
654
00:32:30,248 --> 00:32:31,511
How many?
655
00:32:33,418 --> 00:32:34,442
How many what?
656
00:32:34,519 --> 00:32:38,081
How many teenagers are rational and
how many are rapists and murderers?
657
00:32:39,124 --> 00:32:40,558
There's no answer
to that question.
658
00:32:40,625 --> 00:32:42,093
I thought you
mapped their brains.
659
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,096
We haven't tested every
single teenager in the world.
660
00:32:45,764 --> 00:32:50,600
Oh. So if you had given
MRIs to every single teenager,
661
00:32:50,669 --> 00:32:54,265
you would be able to predict whether or
not they would be a criminal. Is that it?
662
00:32:54,339 --> 00:32:56,137
No. Well, what?
663
00:32:56,208 --> 00:32:59,076
If the irrational part of
the brain is overactive,
664
00:32:59,144 --> 00:33:01,375
that proves that they'll
be violent, doesn't it?
665
00:33:01,446 --> 00:33:03,312
It doesn't prove anything.
666
00:33:03,381 --> 00:33:05,475
This research is in its infancy.
667
00:33:06,384 --> 00:33:08,444
Your study doesn't
prove anything?
668
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,182
Not what you're
asking for, but...
669
00:33:10,255 --> 00:33:13,089
Then it's a theory,
an unproven theory.
670
00:33:13,158 --> 00:33:15,627
This research is a
huge step forward
671
00:33:15,694 --> 00:33:17,287
in understanding
how the brain works.
672
00:33:17,362 --> 00:33:21,094
Which is just another way of saying we
really don't understand the brain at all.
673
00:33:24,169 --> 00:33:25,762
Nothing further.
674
00:33:28,940 --> 00:33:33,469
Jeremy, do you know the difference
between what's right and what's wrong?
675
00:33:34,379 --> 00:33:35,403
Yes.
676
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,042
Was it wrong to break into
Susan Oestreicher's apartment?
677
00:33:40,552 --> 00:33:41,713
Yes.
678
00:33:42,220 --> 00:33:43,586
Then why did you do it?
679
00:33:44,923 --> 00:33:47,154
Zach said he wanted some money.
680
00:33:47,225 --> 00:33:49,023
Do you always do
what Zach wants?
681
00:33:50,228 --> 00:33:51,992
He's my best friend.
682
00:33:52,063 --> 00:33:55,090
Jeremy, did you know that Zach
was planning to kill that woman?
683
00:33:56,234 --> 00:33:57,258
No.
684
00:33:57,702 --> 00:34:00,137
And if you thought
even for one moment
685
00:34:00,205 --> 00:34:01,901
that that's what
he wanted to do,
686
00:34:01,973 --> 00:34:03,584
would you have gone
with him to the apartment,
687
00:34:03,608 --> 00:34:05,736
even though he's
your best friend?
688
00:34:05,810 --> 00:34:06,937
No.
689
00:34:07,946 --> 00:34:10,074
I don't want
anyone to get killed.
690
00:34:10,148 --> 00:34:12,049
Jeremy, what is more wrong?
691
00:34:12,117 --> 00:34:16,384
Watching someone do something
terrible or telling on your only friend?
692
00:34:21,026 --> 00:34:22,494
I don't know.
693
00:34:24,429 --> 00:34:27,263
So, maybe, you don't know right
from wrong as much as you think.
694
00:34:30,468 --> 00:34:32,130
Thank you, Jeremy.
695
00:34:35,740 --> 00:34:38,471
Who hit Susan
Oestreicher over the head?
696
00:34:39,210 --> 00:34:40,303
Zach.
697
00:34:40,845 --> 00:34:43,508
Hard enough so she
was knocked out, right?
698
00:34:43,582 --> 00:34:44,606
Yeah.
699
00:34:44,683 --> 00:34:47,209
Then Zach told
you to get the knife.
700
00:34:48,687 --> 00:34:51,247
He... He said to
look in the kitchen.
701
00:34:51,323 --> 00:34:53,019
Did you think he
was going to stab her?
702
00:34:53,625 --> 00:34:54,752
No.
703
00:34:54,826 --> 00:34:56,818
What did you think
he was going to do?
704
00:34:58,029 --> 00:35:01,056
Scare her. He didn't
want her to yell.
705
00:35:01,132 --> 00:35:03,931
But she wasn't awake.
How would she yell?
706
00:35:05,570 --> 00:35:07,266
I don't know.
707
00:35:07,339 --> 00:35:09,638
What do people do
with knives, Jeremy?
708
00:35:12,077 --> 00:35:13,443
Cut things.
709
00:35:13,979 --> 00:35:17,381
So you walked into the
kitchen and you got the knife.
710
00:35:17,449 --> 00:35:18,508
Yes.
711
00:35:19,351 --> 00:35:21,377
You said you were
afraid of Zach. Why?
712
00:35:21,453 --> 00:35:22,853
He was yelling at me.
713
00:35:22,921 --> 00:35:25,322
Why didn't you
walk out the door?
714
00:35:29,327 --> 00:35:30,795
I don't know.
715
00:35:34,332 --> 00:35:36,858
So, you got the knife.
716
00:35:38,036 --> 00:35:39,834
You walked back to Zach,
717
00:35:39,904 --> 00:35:42,874
and you were holding
the knife in your hands.
718
00:35:42,941 --> 00:35:44,102
Yes.
719
00:35:44,175 --> 00:35:45,905
Why did you give it to him?
720
00:35:45,977 --> 00:35:48,139
Was it because you
were afraid or because you
721
00:35:48,213 --> 00:35:50,808
wanted to be cool
for your friend?
722
00:35:50,882 --> 00:35:51,941
I don't know!
723
00:35:52,017 --> 00:35:54,111
You knew what
he was going to do,
724
00:35:54,185 --> 00:35:56,552
and you helped him
do it. Isn't that why?
725
00:35:58,123 --> 00:35:59,591
I'm sorry!
726
00:36:01,192 --> 00:36:03,320
I'm so sorry.
727
00:36:03,395 --> 00:36:04,886
I'm so sorry.
728
00:36:05,497 --> 00:36:06,795
I'm sorry.
729
00:36:07,532 --> 00:36:08,864
I'm sorry.
730
00:36:17,075 --> 00:36:18,668
Nothing further.
731
00:36:21,846 --> 00:36:23,508
I'm so sorry.
732
00:36:31,690 --> 00:36:32,953
Alex.
733
00:36:34,225 --> 00:36:36,751
Well, guess you
got what you wanted.
734
00:36:37,929 --> 00:36:41,764
Destroying a child on the stand is
not quite the highlight of my career.
735
00:36:42,934 --> 00:36:44,459
You did your job.
736
00:36:44,536 --> 00:36:45,629
Careful, Alex.
737
00:36:45,704 --> 00:36:49,800
You're beginning to sound like
me, disillusioned before your time.
738
00:36:51,476 --> 00:36:53,638
I need you to subpoena
a rebuttal witness.
739
00:36:53,712 --> 00:36:54,975
Who? Zachary Connor.
740
00:36:55,046 --> 00:36:56,139
Why?
741
00:36:56,214 --> 00:36:58,513
As of today, he's been
adjudicated by Family Court.
742
00:36:58,583 --> 00:37:02,145
Any testimony he gives won't be
tainted by his co-conspirator status.
743
00:37:02,220 --> 00:37:03,740
If you put Zachary
Connor on the stand,
744
00:37:03,788 --> 00:37:06,758
he's going to say that Jeremy did
everything and I believe that's a lie.
745
00:37:06,825 --> 00:37:09,659
I'm not putting him
on the stand. You are.
746
00:37:09,728 --> 00:37:12,493
Jury already thinks
I make little kids cry.
747
00:37:12,564 --> 00:37:14,430
No. I won't suborn perjury.
748
00:37:14,499 --> 00:37:17,367
Then I guess you better
make sure he tells the truth.
749
00:37:25,777 --> 00:37:28,406
Zachary, who killed
Susan Oestreicher?
750
00:37:29,514 --> 00:37:30,880
Jeremy did.
751
00:37:31,616 --> 00:37:33,312
So he stabbed her with a knife?
752
00:37:33,384 --> 00:37:34,682
Yes.
753
00:37:34,753 --> 00:37:37,279
That must have been
very frightening for you.
754
00:37:37,355 --> 00:37:39,187
Yes. I was scared.
755
00:37:39,257 --> 00:37:40,987
What were you scared of?
756
00:37:41,059 --> 00:37:42,254
Jeremy.
757
00:37:42,794 --> 00:37:43,853
Why?
758
00:37:44,395 --> 00:37:46,159
Because he's bigger.
759
00:37:47,031 --> 00:37:49,091
Was Jeremy afraid of anything?
760
00:37:49,167 --> 00:37:50,226
Yes.
761
00:37:50,668 --> 00:37:51,761
What?
762
00:37:52,036 --> 00:37:54,471
He was just afraid. He
didn't want to get caught.
763
00:37:54,539 --> 00:37:56,098
But you did get caught.
764
00:37:56,174 --> 00:37:57,665
Miss Oestreicher came home.
765
00:37:57,742 --> 00:38:00,576
That was Jeremy's
fault. He got it wrong.
766
00:38:00,979 --> 00:38:03,324
You must have been really scared
when she walked in that door?
767
00:38:03,348 --> 00:38:04,816
No, I wasn't.
768
00:38:04,883 --> 00:38:05,942
Okay.
769
00:38:07,552 --> 00:38:09,851
Zachary, when did you throw up?
770
00:38:10,722 --> 00:38:11,849
That was Jeremy.
771
00:38:11,923 --> 00:38:14,290
I thought you were
afraid, Zachary.
772
00:38:14,359 --> 00:38:17,386
I thought you threw up because
you couldn't look at the blood.
773
00:38:17,462 --> 00:38:19,931
I could, too. Jeremy couldn't.
774
00:38:19,998 --> 00:38:21,762
He was being a baby and crying.
775
00:38:21,833 --> 00:38:24,166
When? Before or
after she was killed?
776
00:38:24,235 --> 00:38:25,396
The whole time.
777
00:38:25,470 --> 00:38:27,701
And you weren't crying?
Not even just a little?
778
00:38:27,772 --> 00:38:28,865
No.
779
00:38:28,940 --> 00:38:30,417
But I thought you
were afraid, Zachary.
780
00:38:30,441 --> 00:38:32,706
I thought you were
afraid of Jeremy.
781
00:38:32,777 --> 00:38:33,972
No, I wasn't.
782
00:38:34,045 --> 00:38:37,209
And you were also afraid of that woman
because she was going to call the police.
783
00:38:37,282 --> 00:38:38,341
She was afraid of me.
784
00:38:38,416 --> 00:38:40,885
And you wanted to show
them both that you were a man,
785
00:38:40,952 --> 00:38:42,352
and that's why you
had sex with her.
786
00:38:42,420 --> 00:38:45,481
Well, that was her fault because she
wouldn't tell me where the money was.
787
00:38:45,557 --> 00:38:48,789
Jeremy was crying! He wouldn't
do anything so I had to do it!
788
00:38:48,860 --> 00:38:52,228
If she had just told me where the
money was, I wouldn't have had to hurt her!
789
00:38:55,366 --> 00:38:56,959
Nothing further.
790
00:39:07,178 --> 00:39:08,806
Five to 10 years.
791
00:39:09,447 --> 00:39:11,541
He wouldn't get
out until he was 24?
792
00:39:11,616 --> 00:39:14,745
It's the minimum sentence. With
good behavior, he's out in five.
793
00:39:14,819 --> 00:39:17,914
But if they say not guilty,
he won't go to jail at all.
794
00:39:17,989 --> 00:39:22,450
The jury will not say
that. The law is very clear.
795
00:39:22,527 --> 00:39:24,496
Jeremy already admitted
to being in the apartment
796
00:39:24,562 --> 00:39:27,464
with the intent to burglarize
it and someone was killed.
797
00:39:28,466 --> 00:39:30,867
He can still be found
guilty of felony murder.
798
00:39:30,935 --> 00:39:33,530
You want me to tell you
to send my son to jail.
799
00:39:33,605 --> 00:39:36,370
Why don't we take a
day to think about this?
800
00:39:36,441 --> 00:39:38,467
No. I don't need
to think about it.
801
00:39:38,543 --> 00:39:41,741
The answer is no.
He didn't hurt anyone.
802
00:39:41,813 --> 00:39:47,252
Mrs. Brice, if Jeremy is convicted,
he is facing a possible life sentence.
803
00:39:49,988 --> 00:39:53,789
Miss Bernardo, please tell your client's
mother how rare jury nullification is.
804
00:39:53,858 --> 00:39:55,486
We should take the deal.
805
00:39:56,261 --> 00:39:58,526
I don't like taking
chances with the jury.
806
00:39:59,297 --> 00:40:00,356
They heard that other boy.
807
00:40:00,431 --> 00:40:04,095
They know Jeremy is good,
and they won't send him to jail.
808
00:40:04,669 --> 00:40:05,967
No.
809
00:40:06,537 --> 00:40:07,766
No deal.
810
00:40:16,247 --> 00:40:19,479
Ladies and gentlemen of the
jury, have you reached a verdict?
811
00:40:19,550 --> 00:40:21,314
We have, Your Honor.
812
00:40:21,886 --> 00:40:25,118
On the first count, murder in the
second degree, how do you find?
813
00:40:26,391 --> 00:40:28,326
We find the defendant guilty.
814
00:40:28,393 --> 00:40:29,861
No!
815
00:40:33,097 --> 00:40:36,898
On the second count, burglary in
the first degree, how do you find?
816
00:40:36,968 --> 00:40:39,164
We find the defendant guilty.
817
00:40:43,408 --> 00:40:45,434
Poll the jury, Your Honor.
818
00:40:45,510 --> 00:40:48,207
Juror number one,
what is your verdict?
819
00:40:50,381 --> 00:40:51,872
Guilty.
820
00:40:51,950 --> 00:40:53,077
Juror number two?
821
00:40:53,151 --> 00:40:54,244
Guilty.
822
00:40:55,586 --> 00:40:57,316
Juror number three?
823
00:40:57,822 --> 00:40:59,017
Guilty.
824
00:40:59,724 --> 00:41:01,420
Juror number four?
825
00:41:01,492 --> 00:41:02,585
Guilty.
826
00:41:02,660 --> 00:41:04,322
Juror number five?
827
00:41:04,395 --> 00:41:05,522
Guilty.
828
00:41:05,596 --> 00:41:06,894
Juror number six?
829
00:41:06,965 --> 00:41:08,228
Guilty.
830
00:41:08,299 --> 00:41:10,393
Juror number seven?
831
00:41:10,468 --> 00:41:11,697
Guilty.
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