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All right, if you'll just
put this under your belt.
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- What?
- Actually, just--
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Sorry.
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lt's okay, it's still dark outside.
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lt's fine.
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lt's fine. It's dark outside.
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You motherfucker.
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Check out the frame.
It looks good l think.
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Yeah. It's cool.
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All right. Here we go.
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Darkthrone was the first
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to release an album
in this black metal genre
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and Gylve was the leader
of the group, so to speak.
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He's more like a philosopher
than somebody who...
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more than an ideologist.
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The band was very successful
and in many ways was the band.
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Gylve as l said is a special person
with special goals,
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and it's impossible to know
what his goals are.
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He...
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He's successful at what he's doing.
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l guess he's happy with that.
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Have you been standing
there the whole time?
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They busted me
on the fucking tear gas.
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They didn't find any drugs,
of course.
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So...
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l had to say,
''Yes, l had the tear gas.''
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And...
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l gotta pay a fine. Big Deal.
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l had to drop my pants.
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They really were hoping
for the big bust, man.
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l don't know.
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Funny thing, you know,
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they always wear
these intimidating gloves
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so that you're supposed to ''fess up''
before they start looking up your ass.
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But they don't look up your ass.
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lt's a trick.
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Norway. It's beautiful.
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lt's like New Zealand
only just grimmer.
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The Norwegian personality is
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when you stand in line for the bus,
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you don't stand too close.
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You keep a couple of meters
away from the next guy.
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l think that says it all.
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They're going to give medicine to people.
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They're announcing it.
People are like, ''Oh! Where is it!''
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lt's amazing that people
are eating this trash.
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Chemical. All the time, you know.
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Sleeping pills and all this.
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lt's like a chemical lobotomy, you know.
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l just started going really musically.
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And direct my interest
into more and more music.
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Music, music, music.
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And he was more into politics.
So we just sort of--
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...took different paths.
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The contact just faded into obscurity.
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The thing that made
this music different
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was that we rebelled
against the traditional song structure.
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But still, you know, he made
an incredible impact with his early albums.
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And l'm eternally grateful for that.
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l wanted the music to be
more epic or storytelling.
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He just recorded,
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like, basically everything
he did himself.
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He was right on the money
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when it came to
the black metal sound.
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That was the shit, man.
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And that is what made this new--
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so-called new music style different.
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Because that is what
the Darkthrone did
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that is what Burzum did.
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And we were like the first
who did this in this period.
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lt's been years
since we had contact.
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l tried to send him some music
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but it wasn't what he was searching for.
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He was searching for some music
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and he couldn't really
explain what it had been.
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So l just gave up on it.
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l'm kind of like
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you know, what's it
called, ambivalence?
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l have an ambivalent feeling
in this context
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because in one sense
of course, it's hard
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to have to be without freedom to move
wherever l want and stuff like that.
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But in another sense
it's kind of positive
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because l have the opportunity
to, like, read books
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and focus on more important things.
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lt's like a--
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l consider it like
a stay in a monastery.
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ln our contemporary society,
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youth are pretty much lost.
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They have no direction.
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Nobody is telling them what to do.
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That is, people are teIling
them what to do
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but the youth have an instinct
telling them this is wrong, you know?
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People are telling them
that Christianity is good.
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People are telling them
that the USA is good.
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NATO is good.
Our democracy is good.
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But we know, if not intellectually,
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we know instinctly that this is wrong.
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This is fucking revenge.
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We recorded the first
black metal album
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A Blaze In the Northern Sky,
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sent it to Peaceville, and they were like,
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''We're remixing this.
What the hell are you guys doing?''
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You know?
''This is black metal.
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This is what black metal is supposed
to sound like.'' It was, like, all cold.
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lt's cold right now as well.
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l said, ''l'm not remixing the album.
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''This is what black metal sounds like
and if you don't want it,
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''then we'll just make
Euronymous release it
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"on his Deathlike Silence label.''
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And then Peaceville said
''No. We can't have that.
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''Because we will lose face if a new band
in our stall is leaving us.
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''So we better just fucking release it,
you know?''
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And now they're really happy about that,
money-wise, l guess.
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We just went with our hearts and we thought
we were going to sell, like,
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maybe 1500 copies of that
Blaze In the Northern Sky album.
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We thought people would react
the same way Peaceville did.
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Basically we knew that there were
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just a few people listening to
and being ''black metal,''
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but people picked up on it.
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And that's one of the albums
now that is a classic within the style,
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so it still sells a lot
ten years down the line.
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When l recorded my album,
you know, l told the producer,
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''Give me the worst
microphone you have.''
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We set up the drums, you know,
we didn't do anything
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to make the song sound
any particular-- special.
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You know, ten minutes
everything was ready.
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And he was, you know,
''Don't you want to do anything?''
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You know, you always
have to adjust
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the sound of the drums
and everything.
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No! Because it was like a rebellion
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against this...
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good production.
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So...
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We called it ''necro-sound,''
you know, ''corpse sound''
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because it's supposed to
sound the worst possible.
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So actually l ended up
with a headset as a microphone.
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That was the worst
we could find.
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And used that as a microphone.
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So-- And we used
this tiny Marshall amplifier,
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it was this big, because that was
the worst amplifier we could find.
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lt was terrible sound, it was--
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We had, like, an album cover
with our guitarist,
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an eerie shot with corpse-paint on it,
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and at that time
every death metal album,
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every thrash metal album
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basically had painted covers,
you know, ''cover art.''
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And people hadn't seen,
like, photos.
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Well, the underground knew that Mayhem
used corpse-paint and shit,
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but people in general looking
through the vinyls and CD racks,
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they were just like,
''What the hell is this?
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A blast from the past?
This is cold!''
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The way l perceived Mayhem
was fucking magic for me.
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l'm still listening
to the Deathcrush album.
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That's probably
my favorite Mayhem album.
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They released Deathcrush
and they just lived
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on reputation only in the late '80s.
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Mayhem started out
in '84 l guess, around there.
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And it was the only Norwegian band,
so it's sort of special for us.
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l went to rehearsals and came
like, awestruck back.
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They did a show in 1989
which is legendary.
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Euronymous invented
the typical Norwegian black metal riff.
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lt's sort of derived from Bathory,
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but it was a new way of playing a riff
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that had really not been done
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and not been stylized by anyone before.
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That's what Euronymous did.
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You have a chord.
You don't play one and one,
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you play one and one
up and down
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and you have the notes
cling together
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so that you have
the fucking eerie notes
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and they all string together
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creating this incredible, eerie sound.
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lt sends fucking chills down your spine.
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l started in Mayhem in March 1988.
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When l first met Euronymous,
l gave him, like,
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a demo tape of me playing the drums.
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He listened to it maybe five minutes
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and he heard it was like double bass
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and blast beats in t,here
and it was like
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''Yeah, okay. You're in the band.''
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The next day l actually
moved to their location
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which was, like
30 minutes outside of! Oslo.
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l met the other guys.
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l met Necrobutcher.
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And of course, l met Dead
which was a Swedish guy.
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l never had the chance
to see Mayhem with Dead,
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but Demonaz did so he can
say something about it.
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Yeah. l saw Mayhem in Oslo
with Dead.
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And he had make-up.
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That was the first show
l saw ever with make-up.
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And didn't they
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carry Dead in in a coffin?
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No, they didn't.
They were supposed to do that.
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They were supposed to do that, yeah.
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So we were really waiting
for that but it didn't happen.
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But he had this sacrifice knife
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which he was cutting himself with.
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lt was a good show.
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When it's cold
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and when it's dark
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the freezing moon can obsess you.
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He was extremely depressed, really.
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Just dreaming of Transylvania
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and vampires
and all this gothic imagery,
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and it's an escape
just like computer games
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and role-playing games,
and that was his escape.
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Come on, Liepzig!
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Come on! Join us!
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Pure fucking Armageddon.
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We agreed that l should send him
some ammo for his shotgun.
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He didn't have any ammo.
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And l did when l came back home
and a month later he shot himself.
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Many people speculate
that Aarseth himself killed Dead.
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Per Ohlin. It's one of the many rumors
in this movement.
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There are a lot of rumors,.
l don't think that's true
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simply because he was
out of town when it happened.
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And when he came back home
he didn't have a key,
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they only had a couple of keys t,o the house
and he didn't have it
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so he had to crawl
in the open window.
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And when he crawled in
he found Dead--
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Dead dead in the bed
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with his, you know, his brains
blown out, literally.
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He shot himself in the forehead.
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The brain had fallen
out from his skull.
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lt was, you know, grotesque.
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And the first thing he did
was not to call the cops.
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lt was
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''Where's my photo equipment?''
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l'm born in Bergen in 1973.
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l grew up in an idyllic society, really.
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Homogeneous, no crime.
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Everything was basically perfect.
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We had stables with girls
riding horses.
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We were playing on the outside.
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There were no problems.
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But at a certain point,
when we grow older,
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of course there were problems,
but we didn't see them.
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That's basically the truth, eh
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But when you grow older
you start to see that things
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isn't the way you want it to be.
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McDonald's didn't appear
until '91 or '92, and when it did
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we actually took a rifle
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and a bicycle and we bicycled--
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Rode our bikes up to McDonald's
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and we set down and started to fire
on their windows.
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You know, we were sneaking up
and ''Boom!''
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We were shooting at McDonald's.
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We stockpiled weapons,
munitions to prepare for war.
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Because we not only suspected that
there might be a third world war,
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we hoped that there would
be a third world war.
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Not because we enjoyed
destruction so much
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but because we knew that if you want
to build something new,
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you have to destroy the old first.
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The ballad album of Nazareth.
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Oh! Testament, The Ritual.
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What a cool album.
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This place has a cool story to it
when it comes to Darkthrone.
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Because, well
Iet's get out of the fire.
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lt was a question of getting, like,
a Dictaphone or something to record riffs.
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Because me and Ted, we had
like, of course, you know,
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we recorded rehearsals
on this fucking tape deck.
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And that broke down.
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So l'm sitting here in Oslo
and l'm thinking, well,
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l probably should get a Dictaphone.
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And so l get in touch
with Sigurd and he says,
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''Well, l can get you
this fucker for 2000.
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lt's got, like, four tracks,
it's digital and everything.''
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And l'm saying, ''Hold it.
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''You know, l was thinking
more along the lines
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''of a little-- to get the riffs in.''
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And then l come here, you know,
and l find this old tape deck.
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lt can't even play out, it just goes--
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but it can record
and l bought it for 50 kroner.
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Fucking sweet.
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l refuse to...
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stand court-martialed
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for making this whole
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underground movement
into a trend thing.
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lf it's anyone,
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it's not us.
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But l guess most people
would say that.
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That's what people
usually ask, you know?
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Like, how the hell did it happen?
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l guess l got to buy that fucking helmet.
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The mission statement was not escaping
the death metal trend.
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But definitely we were
thinking of not stepping
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in the garish footsteps
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of what became commercial death metal.
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Well, what do you know?
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What are we looking at here?
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l was thinking what is really
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the culturally relevant
phenomenon of Norway?
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And l just couldn't find any.
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l think Norway is kind of exploding
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with all this kind of mediocre
cultural activity
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and then if there are
other relevant phenomena,
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then they are usually
just completely ignored,
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which is happening with this Norwegian
black metal here in Norway.
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What interested me the most,was both
the visual aesthetics
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this kind of stereotype
with this corpse-paint
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that you can make it into
kind of a visual stereotype
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that both is something you
feel you've seen before
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but is not quite like what
you have seen before.
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This Transylvanian Hunger photo,
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if you compare that to ''The Scream'',
there is so much visual similarities.
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And l don't think it's such a far-fetched
reference as many people think.
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With Munch in Norway there has been
this kind of fear of Munch
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the fear of his emotional excessiveness
and, kind of
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the fear of this easy genius,
and this very, very extreme, Norwegian person.
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And l think the only thing
that really had a relevance
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to the kind of emotional content
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of what Edvard Munch was
is Norwegian black metal.
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l have this tour now which will be
four one-man shows
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in different European museums
which will have a black metal theme.
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lt was a huge shop.
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At one point
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Count Grishnackh was
living in the cellar.
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Bard ''Faust'' was living
behind the counter, sort of.
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And Euronymous himself lived there
in a small hideaway up in--
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Like, he had a little, small--
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Say this piece right there
was removable.
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He was living, sleeping
up in the fucking roof.
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We used to sit in a sofa
behind the desk
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in a part of the shop
that was not used.
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So it was like in a dark corner
so to speak.
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You know, and he was drinking,
we were talking
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and these heavy metal guys came in,
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you know, with nails
all over their jackets
329
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because they had the impression that you
have to have nails, you know?
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That's a part of the game.
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And...
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So, we could sit there, like
talk about everything really'.
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Like cornflakes. We were discussing--
Gylve asked me, like,
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''So, how do you like
your cornflakes?
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''Do you like them crispy?
336
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''Or do you like them soft?''
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And l said, ''Well, l like them crispy.''
338
00:31:47,049 --> 00:31:50,069
And he said, ''No, no, no, no, no.
It's better when they're really soft.
339
00:31:50,549 --> 00:31:52,829
''You have to put the milk
and let it just rest for a while,
340
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''and then you eat it.''
341
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,289
And then these heavy metal guys would enter
and we stopped talking
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because, you know, we didn't really want
to talk to them, you know?
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We did not want to get to know them.
344
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And of course he was, you know,
the drummer of Darkthrone
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the boss in Darkthrone.
346
00:32:09,140 --> 00:32:11,950
And l was playing in Burzum.
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And we were like their--
some sort of idols of some sort.
348
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So, they were watching us and...
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if we ever talked to one of them
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they boasted to their friends that, you know,
351
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''Gylve of Darkthrone talked to me.''
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00:32:30,220 --> 00:32:32,500
Of course, he rarely did
because he had--
353
00:32:32,890 --> 00:32:35,519
You know, it was like pretty much
we shared the opinion
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that these guys weren't
particularly interesting, you know?
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lt's sort of stigmatizing
to talk about heritage.
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00:35:59,170 --> 00:36:00,190
You know, it's--
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l mean for most
of the European countries,
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l mean, Christianity
more or less erased
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our original cultures anyway.
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There's more chaos, war, pollution now
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than ever before in our recorded history.
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00:36:18,849 --> 00:36:22,389
Of course, we might have
known a period
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with even worse conditions
364
00:36:24,460 --> 00:36:26,510
but the Christians burned all the records
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that could tell us about it anyway,
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like in the Library ofAlexandria.
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Wherever the Catholics or Protestants
or other Christians came
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they destroyed the culture.
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00:36:39,769 --> 00:36:41,030
They ruined the culture.
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00:36:41,269 --> 00:36:42,440
They burned the culture.
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00:36:42,679 --> 00:36:44,849
And they burned the records
of these cultures.
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That includes the European cultures.
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That includes African cultures.
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Asian cultures.
American cultures.
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Wherever they were,
they destroyed everything.
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00:36:55,460 --> 00:36:58,769
They want to replace our culture
with Americanization
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with, you know,
the Judeo-Christian cultures.
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00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:06,409
Christianity is the root to all problems
in the modern world.
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00:37:08,099 --> 00:37:11,639
lt's hard to know what to do
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00:37:12,210 --> 00:37:14,869
to oppose something.
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00:37:15,309 --> 00:37:18,440
Because dissident voices
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00:37:18,949 --> 00:37:21,579
are not tolerated
in contemporary society.
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00:37:30,159 --> 00:37:32,469
l think it's
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to a big extent
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00:37:36,030 --> 00:37:39,019
nauseating,
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you know, to see,
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00:37:42,599 --> 00:37:46,170
you know, the beauty
of specific cultures,
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00:37:46,739 --> 00:37:50,340
you know, being contaminated
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00:37:50,909 --> 00:37:55,630
by the not-so-beautiful
facets of other cultures.
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00:37:56,349 --> 00:37:58,519
But at the same time, l think it's
391
00:37:58,889 --> 00:38:00,760
a process of--
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lt's a step on the way to returning
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00:38:04,059 --> 00:38:07,460
to some sort of primeval source.
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00:38:56,610 --> 00:39:00,269
Everybody can relate to Odin
and Thor and Freya in Norway
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00:39:00,849 --> 00:39:02,079
because it's our religion.
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00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,250
We are not Christian.
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00:39:03,449 --> 00:39:04,909
Christianity is a Jewish religion.
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00:39:05,179 --> 00:39:07,429
Christianity was originally a Jewish sect.
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00:39:07,820 --> 00:39:12,599
Baptism is all about a symbolic, ritual murder
of the non-Jewish
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of the Gentile.
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00:39:14,659 --> 00:39:16,300
They murder the Gentile child,
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00:39:16,599 --> 00:39:18,269
and then they call the Jewish name
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00:39:18,559 --> 00:39:20,369
that's supposed to replace the pagan soul.
404
00:39:33,150 --> 00:39:36,989
Originally, the place was
an old pagan holy site.
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00:39:37,579 --> 00:39:42,590
lt was on top of a hill where
our forefathers used to celebrate the sun.
406
00:39:44,860 --> 00:39:47,820
What the Christians did
was to move this church
407
00:39:48,289 --> 00:39:52,130
from another place, and put it
not close to this holy site
408
00:39:52,730 --> 00:39:54,130
but on top of it.
409
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,599
ln the midst of the circle.
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00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,010
Actually breaking up the circle.
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00:39:58,369 --> 00:40:02,059
And on the pagan horgh,
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00:40:02,639 --> 00:40:04,280
they put a big stone cross.
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00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:09,869
So, if they have no respect
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00:40:10,550 --> 00:40:11,809
for the Norwegian culture,
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00:40:12,050 --> 00:40:15,949
why on earth should Norwegians
respect their culture?
416
00:41:02,139 --> 00:41:05,650
The intended result was to give people
a shock to make them open their eyes.
417
00:41:06,210 --> 00:41:09,309
lt's like if you detonate a bomb,
they will open their eyes
418
00:41:09,809 --> 00:41:11,389
for a moment, you know?
''What happened?''
419
00:41:16,750 --> 00:41:19,619
lt was Varg who first set fire to a church.
420
00:41:20,090 --> 00:41:22,429
But there were a lot
of church burnings.
421
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,909
ln, l guess... Was it '92, '93?
422
00:43:05,889 --> 00:43:09,170
My least favorite artist
is from Central America.
423
00:43:09,699 --> 00:43:13,070
lt is the woman who paints
all the women
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00:43:13,599 --> 00:43:15,880
with very strong eyebrows.
425
00:43:16,269 --> 00:43:18,550
She's way political
426
00:43:18,940 --> 00:43:24,130
and l know for a fact that in Nicaragua,
427
00:43:28,849 --> 00:43:32,829
for instance, l mean
the artists were persecuted,
428
00:43:33,449 --> 00:43:38,230
and they always painted,
like, these really...
429
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,510
close to nature things with strong colors.
430
00:43:41,929 --> 00:43:45,849
l mean, it's the perfect...
431
00:43:46,469 --> 00:43:49,429
disease of being repressed.
432
00:43:49,900 --> 00:43:51,710
l mean, you want everything to be shiny.
433
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:54,840
No, l like--
434
00:43:55,110 --> 00:43:59,239
l more like the wealthy and troubled art
435
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:03,449
that comes from...
436
00:44:04,019 --> 00:44:08,210
the exhaustion of easy life.
437
00:44:14,659 --> 00:44:19,289
lt surprised me a little bit
when l felt the, uh...
438
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,159
not friction, but the panic
439
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:26,880
that people had against modern arrt.
440
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:32,949
And ''that's just something
that they threw on the canvas'' mind-frame.
441
00:44:35,250 --> 00:44:39,119
And again l'm not a shrink,
l don't know why l reacted to that,
442
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:42,090
but l was like
''what the hell's wrong with it?''
443
00:44:42,489 --> 00:44:45,590
Because l grew up--
It's my parents too.
444
00:44:46,090 --> 00:44:47,960
They were always like that.
445
00:44:48,289 --> 00:44:50,280
They were going, like,
446
00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:54,940
''Call a spade a spade,''
and all that ordeal.
447
00:44:55,599 --> 00:44:58,030
So maybe,
448
00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:59,699
through the way they raised me--
449
00:44:59,940 --> 00:45:03,539
And everyone wants to be
against their parents.
450
00:45:04,110 --> 00:45:05,780
l never felt l needed that
451
00:45:06,079 --> 00:45:07,449
but l guess l didn't realize it.
452
00:45:07,710 --> 00:45:10,730
But that's the way l came to like modern art.
453
00:45:11,219 --> 00:45:14,090
My parents being very conservative
454
00:45:14,550 --> 00:45:17,269
and they wanted the,
as we call it in Norway,
455
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:21,469
the moose in the sunset sort of painting.
456
00:45:22,059 --> 00:45:24,050
''Well, at least that's a moose in a sunset.
457
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:26,179
''l know what the hell that means.''
458
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,500
lt's not like l don't see these images
459
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,079
every fucking day.
460
00:47:13,110 --> 00:47:15,769
l know the location of that
because l've been there, you know?
461
00:47:16,210 --> 00:47:17,639
lt's like from where l'm from.
462
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:34,380
ls there more?
463
00:47:53,250 --> 00:47:55,239
Not black metal Mickey?
464
00:48:00,389 --> 00:48:02,820
Can you just use Mickey Rourke like that?
465
00:48:06,460 --> 00:48:08,039
That is truly insane.
466
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,280
lt's just going to be decaf
on this guy from now on.
467
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,489
Thought maybe it would
just be a piece of paper with his name.
468
00:48:47,070 --> 00:48:48,030
Nothing on the back.
469
00:48:48,230 --> 00:48:51,190
Just-- Just ''here's my name.''
470
00:48:52,940 --> 00:48:54,639
How do you like that?
471
00:49:01,309 --> 00:49:05,090
Can l have a glass of water?
l fucking need it.
472
00:49:58,340 --> 00:50:00,070
No more questions, guys?
473
00:50:02,039 --> 00:50:04,409
Even l'm starting to feel
like having a smoke now.
474
00:50:38,340 --> 00:50:41,739
We weren't involved in any
of those activities
475
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:44,969
with church burning and stuff.
476
00:50:45,420 --> 00:50:46,760
We knew about it.
477
00:50:47,019 --> 00:50:48,190
l mean, we thought it was...
478
00:50:51,789 --> 00:50:54,420
quite entertaining.
479
00:51:18,519 --> 00:51:20,800
To Aarseth everything was about image.
480
00:51:21,190 --> 00:51:22,829
And he wanted to appear extreme.
481
00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:26,400
He wanted people to think
of him as being extreme.
482
00:51:26,929 --> 00:51:28,269
And the most extreme of them all.
483
00:51:28,530 --> 00:51:30,519
But he didn't want to be extreme.
484
00:51:30,860 --> 00:51:32,670
And he wasn't really extreme.
485
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,400
He gave people the impression
that he was organizing all of it.
486
00:51:36,940 --> 00:51:39,280
That was what he wanted it to look like.
487
00:51:39,670 --> 00:51:44,420
He started to talk
about this ''black metal mafia,'' this mob.
488
00:51:45,139 --> 00:51:48,920
And he wanted it to look
as if he was some ''godfather''
489
00:51:49,519 --> 00:51:52,179
of some organization.
490
00:51:52,619 --> 00:51:57,250
l pointed at the fact that,
''Hey, he sure has a big mouth.
491
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,070
''But is he doing anything?''
492
00:52:00,429 --> 00:52:03,329
And the others would think
''Well, actually, he doesn't.'''
493
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,349
So, you know...
494
00:52:33,530 --> 00:52:38,159
l was frustrated when l realized
that this movement was, you know,
495
00:52:38,860 --> 00:52:42,320
still the same bunch
of brain-dead metal-heads.
496
00:52:42,869 --> 00:52:45,420
And l wanted to do
something about it.
497
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:48,710
So l tried to force them
into taking another stand
498
00:52:49,170 --> 00:52:51,159
by giving an interview to a newspaper.
499
00:52:51,510 --> 00:52:55,320
l told him that we were behind
the church burnings and all this.
500
00:52:55,909 --> 00:52:57,610
And l told him l could
tell him that because, of course
501
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,440
l have not done anything.
502
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,559
And, of course
503
00:53:04,159 --> 00:53:08,260
he changed everything,
and instead of printing what l told him,
504
00:53:08,889 --> 00:53:12,079
he went to the police and got me arrested.
505
00:54:01,179 --> 00:54:05,219
And then he printed his interpretation
of what l said in the newspaper.
506
00:54:05,849 --> 00:54:08,630
l could not do anything about it.
l was in prison.
507
00:54:10,519 --> 00:54:13,130
And of course all of the other
journalists interviewed him
508
00:54:13,559 --> 00:54:16,460
while l was in prison and l couldn't
say anything about it.
509
00:54:16,929 --> 00:54:20,030
So his version was like the truth.
Everybody copied it, you know?
510
00:54:21,630 --> 00:54:26,199
The police claim that l made
others burn churches.
511
00:54:26,909 --> 00:54:29,460
That is, l accompanied them and, like,
''Come on.''
512
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:31,019
You know, ''The church.''
513
00:54:52,530 --> 00:54:54,550
Were you worried about your friends
getting into trouble?
514
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,170
No. We were zoning at the time.
l didn't worry
515
00:55:02,710 --> 00:55:06,309
about anything basically.
516
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,449
l guess l wanted to set fire myself.
517
00:55:11,019 --> 00:55:12,219
l never went that far, you know.
518
00:55:16,389 --> 00:55:17,530
But, no.
519
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,800
l mean, the only thing that was
worrying is when
520
00:55:22,429 --> 00:55:24,420
it was all over the news.
521
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,829
And then we had something to worry about.
522
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,570
lt didn't turn out the way l wanted it to be,
523
00:56:26,860 --> 00:56:30,260
but it sure changed a lot.
524
00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:34,369
They started to pretend that there was
some Satanic movement
525
00:56:34,929 --> 00:56:37,239
and conspiracy in society,
526
00:56:37,639 --> 00:56:40,570
that the people who were burning churches
were really Satanists
527
00:56:41,039 --> 00:56:44,260
who planned to spread evil, all this crap.
528
00:56:44,780 --> 00:56:46,829
And when l got out of prison,
there was nothing l could do about it.
529
00:56:47,179 --> 00:56:49,019
l told them this is nothing
to do with Satanism.
530
00:56:49,349 --> 00:56:52,369
And they never paid any attention
to what l said.
531
00:56:52,849 --> 00:56:55,949
Even Aarseth was never a Satanist.
Nobody were Satanists,
532
00:56:56,460 --> 00:56:59,150
but this was all about demonizing
a movement.
533
00:56:59,590 --> 00:57:01,320
They wanted us to be Satanists.
534
00:58:16,940 --> 00:58:19,869
You know, the moment the newspapers
started writing about it, it was imitated.
535
00:58:23,239 --> 00:58:27,989
The problem was really that this
misinterpretation made up the foundation
536
00:58:28,710 --> 00:58:32,280
of a completely different
movement of, you know,
537
00:58:32,849 --> 00:58:35,039
15-year-old copycats burning churches,
538
00:58:35,420 --> 00:58:38,349
and spraying these Satanic symbols
on the churches
539
00:58:38,820 --> 00:58:41,780
because they thought that that's
what it was all about.
540
00:58:42,260 --> 00:58:44,039
And, you know, that was the result.
541
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,409
And that was a result of the media coverage.
542
00:59:10,019 --> 00:59:15,260
The movement, the small
543
00:59:16,059 --> 00:59:19,539
but pinpointed things we had in mind,
544
00:59:20,099 --> 00:59:25,019
got blown into this big trend,
545
00:59:25,769 --> 00:59:26,880
big following thing.
546
00:59:30,039 --> 00:59:32,969
l guess the sales of black lipstick
went through the roof.
547
01:00:01,639 --> 01:00:03,780
l like this shot, eh?
548
01:00:09,250 --> 01:00:12,320
This is also not bad when he stands like this
you see the nails.
549
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:19,250
This is also kind of good
550
01:00:19,460 --> 01:00:21,949
when he goes in and out of the frame.
551
01:00:25,829 --> 01:00:27,139
This is good.
This l want to use.
552
01:00:28,530 --> 01:00:31,369
This is Gylve in the forest.
Can you slow it down?
553
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,230
l think visually the best one would be
Gylve from Darkthrone.
554
01:00:44,679 --> 01:00:48,719
'Cause l think he has visually the best look.
555
01:00:50,789 --> 01:00:52,539
But he would never do it, huh?
556
01:01:14,380 --> 01:01:15,460
Legacy Magazine, Diana.
557
01:01:15,679 --> 01:01:17,139
Hey, hey! It's Fenriz.
558
01:01:17,420 --> 01:01:20,789
- Hi.
- Hi. What's up?
559
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,460
Are you having a great Friday?
560
01:01:23,820 --> 01:01:26,690
Yes, a little crazy because it was
a long night yesterday.
561
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,900
Okay. Let's start off with the interview.
562
01:01:31,260 --> 01:01:36,329
l heard that in your private life, what is truly
quite a shock for a lot of Darkthrone fans,
563
01:01:37,099 --> 01:01:40,909
you're into house and techno music.
Is this true?
564
01:01:41,510 --> 01:01:47,550
Oh sure. l was just listening to a mix CD
for Monika Kruse last night.
565
01:01:50,849 --> 01:01:52,489
You should know Monika Kruse.
566
01:01:52,780 --> 01:01:54,829
She's been in the German
techno scene for a long time.
567
01:01:55,190 --> 01:01:58,210
We in Oslo, we are not secluding.
568
01:02:00,530 --> 01:02:04,510
We usually know about a whole lot
of different sorts of styles of music.
569
01:02:05,130 --> 01:02:08,349
We're not fucking living in a trailer camp
just listening to Anthrax,
570
01:02:08,869 --> 01:02:10,710
if you know what l'm saying.
571
01:02:11,039 --> 01:02:14,820
We like a lot of different music
but l guess l'm the first one
572
01:02:15,409 --> 01:02:18,190
who started to say that l like
a lot of different music.
573
01:02:18,639 --> 01:02:23,860
But the first one who really went out
and said all that shit was Euronymous himself.
574
01:02:24,650 --> 01:02:27,900
He was always into electronic music.
And he said it.
575
01:02:28,420 --> 01:02:30,500
He even had Conrad Scnitzler
do the fucking intro
576
01:02:30,860 --> 01:02:32,000
for the Deathcrush album, you know?
577
01:02:33,190 --> 01:02:35,000
Well, what l wanted to say is that l hope
578
01:02:35,329 --> 01:02:38,730
that you do not have the intention
to bring out a house album.
579
01:02:39,260 --> 01:02:42,130
No. That's the whole prob--
That's the whole thing, you know.
580
01:02:42,599 --> 01:02:46,469
ln Darkthrone we are listening to
so many other styles of music
581
01:02:47,070 --> 01:02:51,110
but we will not let that enter
into the Darkthrone concept.
582
01:02:51,739 --> 01:02:53,000
lt is not Darkthrone.
583
01:02:53,239 --> 01:02:55,789
Then, we shall not be influenced by it,
but we can listen to it.
584
01:02:56,210 --> 01:03:00,019
Other people, they hear two electronic albums
they like, and they suddenly go like,
585
01:03:00,619 --> 01:03:03,519
''Oooh! Maybe we can put this in the metal!
Maybe that will be cool!''
586
01:03:04,989 --> 01:03:06,389
Hey, that's not Darkthrone.
587
01:03:06,659 --> 01:03:08,969
But l know a whole lot of people
that have been doing that.
588
01:03:22,139 --> 01:03:25,179
Wow! Wow! You think so?
That is so interesting
589
01:03:25,679 --> 01:03:29,190
because l think, like, eight years ago
l didn't really do provoking shit
590
01:03:29,750 --> 01:03:33,260
because Christian people were not going
to read my lyrics, right?
591
01:03:33,820 --> 01:03:35,599
So they were not going to be provocative.
592
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:39,110
What l wrote then, l see now in hindsight,
593
01:03:39,619 --> 01:03:42,460
l see that this is what people
594
01:03:42,929 --> 01:03:45,860
that were into occult or obscure
and anti-Christian things,
595
01:03:46,329 --> 01:03:49,139
that was the sort of lyrics they wanted to read.
596
01:03:49,599 --> 01:03:51,059
lt maybe given them strength.
597
01:03:51,340 --> 01:03:54,300
But it was also sort of fiction and maybe
a creative outlet for my fucking head.
598
01:03:54,769 --> 01:03:57,139
What l've been doing on the last two albums
599
01:03:57,539 --> 01:04:00,559
is what should drive people to suicide.
600
01:04:01,050 --> 01:04:04,269
And it's really taking out the strength, right?
601
01:04:04,780 --> 01:04:08,909
Because you can't really get strength
from the lyrics on the last two albums,
602
01:04:09,550 --> 01:04:12,590
while you probably could from an album
like ''A Blaze In The Northern Sky.''
603
01:04:13,090 --> 01:04:16,869
So l'm thinking l'm really just pleasing
and, you know, l'm caressing
604
01:04:17,460 --> 01:04:20,710
the dog with its hairs, you know,
as we speak,
605
01:04:21,230 --> 01:04:24,300
the dogs being the fans or whatever,
everyone listening to the album.
606
01:04:24,800 --> 01:04:28,929
l'm just-- It turns out l was writing
just what they wanted, okay?
607
01:04:29,570 --> 01:04:33,000
And now l'm writing what no one wants
because that is to be really fucking depressed,
608
01:04:33,550 --> 01:04:36,449
if you really understand it, and then wanting
to take your fucking life.
609
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,380
At least l do. Because l'm looking
at my lyrics for the last two albums
610
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:44,519
and l'm seeing my fucking world in hell.
611
01:04:45,090 --> 01:04:46,789
- Okay.
- Okay.
612
01:04:47,090 --> 01:04:48,460
Thanks for taking the time.
613
01:04:48,730 --> 01:04:49,630
Thanks for your time.
614
01:04:49,829 --> 01:04:51,139
And l wish you a nice evening.
615
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:54,800
Oh, have a beautiful evening. All right.
See you later. Hey, hey.
616
01:04:55,329 --> 01:04:56,199
Bye.
617
01:04:57,599 --> 01:04:59,940
One down, one to go.
618
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:01,829
l chose the name Frost when l entered
Satyricon and became a member of the band.
619
01:06:02,570 --> 01:06:07,699
l wanted a name that l could identify with
as a black metal artist.
620
01:06:08,469 --> 01:06:13,480
And l wanted it to be like a purification
621
01:06:14,250 --> 01:06:16,559
of that side of me
622
01:06:16,949 --> 01:06:21,960
that was into the darkness and the grimness
and the coldness of black metal.
623
01:06:22,719 --> 01:06:25,119
lt's an alter-ego, you know?
624
01:06:30,829 --> 01:06:32,409
lt helps me getting more focused
625
01:06:32,699 --> 01:06:37,239
and also it adds to the totality
of darkness and grimness
626
01:06:37,940 --> 01:06:40,429
that we do create with our music.
627
01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:45,820
The obscurity in black metal is part
of the darkness that we are trying to create.
628
01:06:46,579 --> 01:06:50,500
lt goes very much hand in hand
with that darkness.
629
01:06:52,619 --> 01:06:55,989
And then l'm talking about darkness
with a capital ''D'' then.
630
01:06:57,719 --> 01:06:59,010
lf you understand what l mean.
631
01:07:05,429 --> 01:07:09,150
Well, if someone running...
632
01:07:09,730 --> 01:07:13,239
a big art magazine
and wanted to use my picture,
633
01:07:13,809 --> 01:07:16,800
that is kind of flattering,
634
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:21,349
so l wouldn't feel it should be necessary
for them to ask me first
635
01:07:21,980 --> 01:07:26,670
if they are allowed to do it
because it's somehow
636
01:07:27,389 --> 01:07:31,400
presented in a neutral way.
637
01:07:32,019 --> 01:07:34,769
lt couldn't be connected to something
that l do not like
638
01:07:35,230 --> 01:07:37,840
or do not want to be connected to.
639
01:07:40,159 --> 01:07:43,349
l've been obsessed with, like
these Norwegian black metal bands.
640
01:07:43,869 --> 01:07:46,710
So my new show is, like, just dedicated
to black metal.
641
01:07:47,170 --> 01:07:49,309
lt's just, like, pure, like,
the most uncommercial music.
642
01:07:49,670 --> 01:07:52,300
lt's like pure death. It's, like, pure, like--
643
01:07:52,739 --> 01:07:54,550
lt's like-- It's like the pits of death.
644
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:56,659
lt's the most uncommercial music.
645
01:07:58,449 --> 01:08:03,670
l went to Norway where all the guys burned
the churches down and murdered each other
646
01:08:04,460 --> 01:08:06,210
and, like, are in prison making music.
647
01:08:06,519 --> 01:08:09,949
l, like, visited, like, Euronymous' grave
and death and all this
648
01:08:10,500 --> 01:08:13,429
because l love black metal.
The most extreme music in the world.
649
01:08:53,970 --> 01:08:58,329
Most of them are in prison now.
They killed their Messiah, Euronymous.
650
01:09:30,739 --> 01:09:34,279
They were confirming the media's version
651
01:09:34,850 --> 01:09:37,189
and making all of it even worse.
652
01:09:37,579 --> 01:09:41,039
The media was misinterpreting.
l said, ''Hey, you're wrong.''
653
01:09:41,590 --> 01:09:45,340
And then these guys sort of confirmed that,
''No, we're right. Look at these guys.''
654
01:09:49,590 --> 01:09:53,689
How can you stand for this crap, you know?
It's impossible.
655
01:09:54,329 --> 01:09:56,880
And at this point
656
01:09:57,300 --> 01:10:00,079
l was starting to become
a problem in this scene.
657
01:10:17,289 --> 01:10:21,359
He was planning to kidnap me.
658
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:23,250
He was planning to knock me out
659
01:10:23,489 --> 01:10:27,300
with an electro-shock pistol
like the type that security guards carry
660
01:10:27,899 --> 01:10:31,329
and tie me up, take me to the forest,
661
01:10:31,869 --> 01:10:34,239
and make a snuff film
of torrturing me to death.
662
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:37,510
And of course l took it serious.
663
01:10:37,979 --> 01:10:38,939
Apart from that he just--
664
01:10:39,140 --> 01:10:42,890
lf he were talking about it, like,
in the shop to everybody and anybody,
665
01:10:43,479 --> 01:10:45,260
l wouldn't have taken it serious.
But he didn't.
666
01:10:45,579 --> 01:10:48,649
He just told a select group of friends.
667
01:10:49,149 --> 01:10:51,430
And one of them, you know, told me.
668
01:10:51,819 --> 01:10:55,600
And later on he wrote a letter to me
you know, as if we were friends.
669
01:10:56,189 --> 01:10:59,619
Which of course confirmed my suspicion
that he had some plans.
670
01:11:01,100 --> 01:11:03,470
Why did he suddenly want
to be friends, you know?
671
01:11:03,869 --> 01:11:07,270
Of course, to have an excuse to
you know, get close to me
672
01:11:07,810 --> 01:11:09,680
without awaking any suspicion.
673
01:11:10,010 --> 01:11:14,430
The only reason he had to contact me was
a contract between Burzum and his label.
674
01:11:15,109 --> 01:11:17,600
So he sent me the contracts
and wanted me to sign them.
675
01:11:18,020 --> 01:11:19,510
And he wanted to meet
when we were signing them.
676
01:11:19,779 --> 01:11:22,850
Okay. There's no reason to wait.
677
01:11:23,350 --> 01:11:25,220
Let's just go to Oslo and get done with it.
678
01:11:25,560 --> 01:11:27,079
So l drove to Oslo.
679
01:11:27,359 --> 01:11:29,109
But of course it takes
some time to get to Oslo.
680
01:11:29,430 --> 01:11:34,350
You know, it's 500 kilometers
of bad roads and mountains.
681
01:11:35,100 --> 01:11:37,710
So, it took some time to reach.
682
01:11:38,140 --> 01:11:41,100
l think we were there at 3:00
or maybe 4:00.
683
01:11:41,569 --> 01:11:42,880
So he was sleeping.
684
01:11:43,140 --> 01:11:46,100
l told him, ''Well, l don't care
if you're sleeping, just open the door.''
685
01:11:46,579 --> 01:11:48,979
And he opened the door...
686
01:11:49,380 --> 01:11:50,960
which is rather strange really.
687
01:11:51,250 --> 01:11:55,289
You know, he just opened the door,
even though he had plans to kill me.
688
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,170
And he had his beeper, you know?
689
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:02,250
And when l got up in the apartment,
he panicked.
690
01:12:02,829 --> 01:12:04,670
Because, you know, he probably--
691
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,750
He had plans to kill me.
l was aggressive.
692
01:12:09,329 --> 01:12:11,939
You know, so he panicked.
He attacked me. He kicked me in the chest.
693
01:12:12,369 --> 01:12:15,619
l just threw him to the ground,
a bit stunned really.
694
01:12:16,140 --> 01:12:21,300
Because, you know, he attacked me
and l didn't expect it at the time.
695
01:12:22,079 --> 01:12:24,300
And l was stunned for a while.
696
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:25,970
He was just sitting on the floor.
697
01:12:26,220 --> 01:12:29,239
And suddenly he got up trying to get
to his knife in the kitchen.
698
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,369
And l thought, ''Well, if he's going to have
a knife, l'm going to have a knife.''
699
01:12:33,789 --> 01:12:37,510
l had a pocket knife--
this small pocket knife.
700
01:12:38,100 --> 01:12:41,319
l got it up and prevented him
from getting to the kitchen, you know,
701
01:12:41,829 --> 01:12:44,850
so he didn't manage to get his knife.
702
01:12:45,340 --> 01:12:49,699
And then he started off against--
started to run off towards his bedroom
703
01:12:50,369 --> 01:12:52,800
where he kept the shotgun
that Dead shot himself with
704
01:12:53,210 --> 01:12:55,840
as well as the electro-shock pistol.
705
01:12:56,279 --> 01:13:00,319
lt turned out, later on, that he didn't have
any of these things in the bedroom,
706
01:13:00,949 --> 01:13:02,729
but l believed it at the time.
707
01:13:03,050 --> 01:13:05,069
And that is the reason l followed him.
708
01:13:05,420 --> 01:13:08,899
And instead of going into the bedroom,
he just left the building, really.
709
01:13:09,460 --> 01:13:11,680
He just started to run down the stairs.
710
01:13:12,060 --> 01:13:15,810
And l followed him
and managed to stop him.
711
01:13:16,399 --> 01:13:17,859
And, of course
l had a friend with me.
712
01:13:18,140 --> 01:13:19,779
Actually, the guitarist of Mayhem.
713
01:13:20,069 --> 01:13:22,029
And, of course, he was rather shocked.
714
01:13:22,369 --> 01:13:25,439
And l waited because l didn't know
how he was going to react, you know?
715
01:13:25,939 --> 01:13:28,079
He was the guitarist in Mayhem.
716
01:13:28,449 --> 01:13:31,170
So for all l knew, he could attack me as well.
Maybe they planned it, you know?
717
01:13:31,619 --> 01:13:33,609
You get a bit paranoid in situations like that.
718
01:13:33,949 --> 01:13:36,170
So l just waited for-- for-- for--
719
01:13:36,550 --> 01:13:38,100
What's going to happen?
l just waited.
720
01:13:38,390 --> 01:13:39,729
Aarseth was on the floor.
721
01:13:39,989 --> 01:13:42,649
He broke a lamp on the wall
722
01:13:43,090 --> 01:13:46,250
so he was swimming in glass fragments
723
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:50,510
with only his underwear,
so he was rather bloody.
724
01:13:51,100 --> 01:13:54,850
And this other guy just ran past me.
725
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:58,460
And of course l understood that, okay,
he's not a part of it.
726
01:13:58,939 --> 01:14:01,569
So l asked him, ''Are you okay?''
And he just ran off.
727
01:14:02,010 --> 01:14:04,939
And then l remembered
that he had my car keys.
728
01:14:05,420 --> 01:14:07,529
And l had blood all over myself.
729
01:14:07,890 --> 01:14:10,439
And Aarseth got up and attacked me again.
730
01:14:10,859 --> 01:14:15,720
So l finished Aarseth off. l just--
731
01:14:16,460 --> 01:14:18,569
What do you say?
Stabbed? Chopped?
732
01:14:18,930 --> 01:14:21,800
Stabbed him in the skull
so he died immediately.
733
01:14:22,270 --> 01:14:25,609
And l followed the other guy.
He ran to the car.
734
01:14:26,140 --> 01:14:29,130
So, l managed to calm him down.
He gave me the car keys.
735
01:14:29,609 --> 01:14:32,300
l opened the car, you know,
and we drove back.
736
01:15:13,619 --> 01:15:15,229
l wouldn't speak negatively about him
737
01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:17,770
in the sense l speak negatively
about the others.
738
01:15:18,159 --> 01:15:20,560
He never said that he was going
to do anything.
739
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:24,180
And he never did anything.
But that's an honorable thing, isn't it?
740
01:15:24,699 --> 01:15:27,449
lt's worse when you say
you're going to do it and you don't do it.
741
01:15:27,899 --> 01:15:31,329
Gylve, as l said, is a special person
with special goals,
742
01:15:31,869 --> 01:15:34,039
and it's impossible
to know what his goals are.
743
01:15:34,409 --> 01:15:37,630
He--
744
01:15:38,140 --> 01:15:41,569
He's successful at what he's doing
and l guess he's happy with that.
745
01:16:11,239 --> 01:16:14,750
We did not think it was Count Grishnackh.
746
01:16:16,609 --> 01:16:19,220
So we were looking out, we were looking.
747
01:16:20,750 --> 01:16:22,090
We were watching our backs.
748
01:16:25,789 --> 01:16:30,859
l thought what the hell can l do
for Euronymous? He's dead, man.
749
01:16:31,630 --> 01:16:35,880
l dedicated the A Blaze
In the Northern Sky album to him.
750
01:16:36,529 --> 01:16:39,140
Who can l support now?
Well, it's the guy that's still alive.
751
01:16:39,569 --> 01:16:42,560
And he's, like, muffled in jail.
752
01:19:07,619 --> 01:19:11,100
When l got the sentence l already knew
that l was going to get 21 years.
753
01:19:11,659 --> 01:19:13,300
That's the maximum penalty in Norway.
754
01:19:13,590 --> 01:19:16,520
lt's not much by American standards,
755
01:19:16,989 --> 01:19:18,359
but that's maximum in Norway.
756
01:19:18,630 --> 01:19:22,380
So, the judge was really eager to,
you know,
757
01:19:22,970 --> 01:19:27,279
as if she was happy, you know?
''Twenty-one years. Great.''
758
01:19:27,939 --> 01:19:29,750
Because she wanted to underline that
759
01:19:30,069 --> 01:19:32,500
''we do not tolerate this type
of rebellion in Norway.''
760
01:19:32,909 --> 01:19:37,189
And of course they were expecting me
to be, like, wetting my pants or something.
761
01:19:37,850 --> 01:19:40,890
And it just made me smile, really.
762
01:19:41,390 --> 01:19:44,409
l turned my head to the audience
you could call it, and just smiled.
763
01:19:44,890 --> 01:19:47,640
And from what l gathered,
they smiled back.
764
01:19:52,899 --> 01:19:55,510
Varg always will be a great guy.
765
01:20:02,539 --> 01:20:06,050
Even though his views on everything
766
01:20:06,609 --> 01:20:10,210
are deemed, like
an abomination by Norway.
767
01:20:17,319 --> 01:20:18,810
He fucked up.
768
01:20:19,090 --> 01:20:21,899
He's a very intelligent guy.
He's a very talented guy.
769
01:20:22,359 --> 01:20:25,640
But he wanted to live differently from us
770
01:20:26,159 --> 01:20:28,180
so he decided to burn these churches.
771
01:20:28,529 --> 01:20:30,229
lt must have been
one hell of a rush for him.
772
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:34,880
But now he's in jail,
773
01:20:35,270 --> 01:20:37,020
and that must suck for him.
774
01:20:37,340 --> 01:20:39,069
But, you know,
775
01:20:39,380 --> 01:20:41,600
he has himself to thank for it.
776
01:20:57,189 --> 01:21:00,619
lt's very hard to recognize the truth
777
01:21:01,170 --> 01:21:04,829
when you are bombarded
by lies all the time.
778
01:21:05,399 --> 01:21:08,439
Every minute of the day,
you have to go to sleep.
779
01:21:08,939 --> 01:21:12,189
But even in sleep, because you dream
of the impressions you have during the day.
780
01:21:12,710 --> 01:21:16,550
You're bombarded by commercials
and completely senseless information
781
01:21:17,149 --> 01:21:18,899
every single day.
782
01:21:19,220 --> 01:21:21,090
lf you turn on the TV,
you're bombarded.
783
01:21:21,420 --> 01:21:23,439
lf you turn your head
in some direction
784
01:21:23,789 --> 01:21:27,859
you see some sign,
some commercial.
785
01:21:28,489 --> 01:21:31,210
Read magazines, newspapers,
senseless information.
786
01:21:31,659 --> 01:21:34,439
The news are themselves
products being sold.
787
01:21:34,899 --> 01:21:37,239
Everything is meaningless.
788
01:21:37,630 --> 01:21:41,500
Sure the truth is out there--
l know l sound like some X-files
789
01:21:42,109 --> 01:21:43,840
but the truth is of course to be found.
790
01:21:44,140 --> 01:21:48,210
But in a sea of lies
it's just impossible to fin' d it.
791
01:21:48,850 --> 01:21:52,949
Unless you know how to look,
where to look, and when to look.
792
01:21:53,579 --> 01:21:57,619
And of course it's not possible to just,
you know, get up in the morning and just say,
793
01:21:58,260 --> 01:22:00,779
''Okay, l'm going to find the truth this day,''
you know, and go find it.
794
01:22:01,189 --> 01:22:03,770
You have to try and fail
795
01:22:04,189 --> 01:22:06,800
and eventually you will weed out all the lies
796
01:22:07,229 --> 01:22:10,359
and you'll end up with something
797
01:22:10,869 --> 01:22:12,949
at least similar to the truth.
798
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:20,949
The truth is hidden, you know?
Under grass, under some rocks,
799
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:24,029
in a hidden trail, a forgotten trail
in the forest, you know?
800
01:22:24,449 --> 01:22:27,909
And when you're trying to find
these trails, you will stumble.
801
01:22:28,449 --> 01:22:31,409
You'll get some branches in your face.
802
01:22:31,890 --> 01:22:36,810
You'll make mistakes
before you finally find it.
803
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:47,569
So, how do you like the prison?
804
01:24:17,630 --> 01:24:23,199
But the thing is, it's out there now.
It's everyone's property.
805
01:24:24,029 --> 01:24:29,039
Like, for people who want to do humor
or whatever, it's out of our fucking hands.
806
01:24:29,810 --> 01:24:32,909
Black metal for me is still
those secluded things
807
01:24:33,409 --> 01:24:35,159
that people are not the fuck interested in,
you know?
808
01:24:38,619 --> 01:24:42,659
So black metal is like a brand now, you know?
809
01:24:43,289 --> 01:24:44,869
Everyone can deal with it.
810
01:24:45,159 --> 01:24:49,199
lf someone does it in a completely,
you know, disgusting way
811
01:24:49,829 --> 01:24:53,050
l might go, like, ''Damn it!''
812
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:57,479
But what can l do? What's the point?
813
01:25:04,010 --> 01:25:07,109
l kind of got interested for this project
814
01:25:07,609 --> 01:25:09,979
when Bjarne told me
815
01:25:10,380 --> 01:25:13,010
the destructivity that l
816
01:25:13,449 --> 01:25:17,930
was supposed to vibrate
throughout the performance.
817
01:25:18,619 --> 01:25:22,899
So of course l wouldn't have been
interested in the first place
818
01:25:23,560 --> 01:25:27,340
if that didn't seem fascinating to me.
819
01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:51,939
l wonder what Munch's paintings would be
820
01:25:52,460 --> 01:25:56,939
if he didn't feel the agony of living
821
01:25:57,630 --> 01:26:02,199
or the easiness
822
01:26:02,899 --> 01:26:07,939
of being alive compared
to the inevitable death.
823
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:11,159
l have no problems being self-destructive
824
01:27:11,939 --> 01:27:12,989
if the whole thing
825
01:27:13,199 --> 01:27:14,159
is something that l like.
826
01:27:31,420 --> 01:27:34,170
l'll give them a sign
if something goes wrong.
827
01:28:40,289 --> 01:28:44,979
Well, a big part of me wishes that
828
01:28:45,699 --> 01:28:47,659
this whole thing
829
01:28:50,899 --> 01:28:53,069
didn't turn into a trend.
830
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:57,250
l mean, that's what fucking sucked.
And sucks still.
831
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:03,000
Then again, you know,
people like to dress up.
832
01:29:10,649 --> 01:29:13,369
How do you like the transformation?
833
01:29:19,399 --> 01:29:20,710
Oh, boy.
834
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,229
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01:32:43,569 --> 01:32:44,800
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