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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:25,002 --> 00:00:28,438 Becoming a mother was my first concern. 2 00:00:28,639 --> 00:00:30,937 The way she would be born didn't really matter to me. 3 00:00:31,141 --> 00:00:33,200 l only wanted her to be healthy. 4 00:00:33,410 --> 00:00:35,970 l thought l was preparing myself for a natural birth 5 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,215 by doing yoga and talking to people who had already had 6 00:00:39,416 --> 00:00:42,044 a normal birth. But now l'm aware 7 00:00:42,252 --> 00:00:45,983 l didn't have any information about 8 00:00:46,189 --> 00:00:48,987 the physiology of a natural birth and its importance to the baby 9 00:00:49,192 --> 00:00:52,491 MOTHER AND BlOLOGlST and the mother. l didn't take it into consideration. 10 00:00:52,696 --> 00:00:57,258 What l took into consideration was my anxiety and the doctor's opinion. 11 00:00:57,467 --> 00:00:59,833 He cared more about his valuable time 12 00:01:00,037 --> 00:01:03,700 than about my daughter's life. 13 00:01:07,611 --> 00:01:11,172 When l went to the doctor's, the ultrasound report 14 00:01:11,381 --> 00:01:14,077 showed a nuchal cord. He said: 15 00:01:14,284 --> 00:01:18,721 ''She has a loop of umbilical cord around her neck which may kill her.'' 16 00:01:18,922 --> 00:01:23,256 When a mother hears that and she isn't prepared 17 00:01:23,460 --> 00:01:27,191 and has never heard anything about it until that point: ''What do l do?'' 18 00:01:27,397 --> 00:01:28,762 l asked the doctor and he said: 19 00:01:28,966 --> 00:01:31,730 ''Let's schedule a C-section to avoid such thing from happening.'' 20 00:01:31,935 --> 00:01:34,995 l was 38 weeks and 2 days pregnant 21 00:01:35,205 --> 00:01:37,002 and the C-section was scheduled for the next day. 22 00:01:42,112 --> 00:01:45,946 Everything went just fine, my post-op recovery was nice, 23 00:01:46,149 --> 00:01:48,413 the baby's APGAR was good. So to me 24 00:01:48,618 --> 00:01:52,247 it was a perfect delivery in which my daughter was born well. 25 00:01:53,190 --> 00:01:55,624 And as soon as l got pregnant with my second daughter, 26 00:01:55,826 --> 00:01:58,590 the first one was 3 years old only; l showed her what it was like 27 00:01:58,795 --> 00:02:01,423 to have a baby in the belly and what it was like to be born. 28 00:02:01,631 --> 00:02:05,567 So l took out the video from the day she was born. 29 00:02:21,485 --> 00:02:23,783 And she was shocked; l was shocked, 30 00:02:23,987 --> 00:02:25,579 even though l had seen the video several times before. 31 00:02:25,789 --> 00:02:29,555 But at that moment l was touched because she kept asking 32 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:34,163 ''Mom, why am l alone? l was born and there is nobody with me.'' 33 00:02:39,803 --> 00:02:43,330 She was, as she said it herself, abandoned. 34 00:02:43,740 --> 00:02:46,732 She didn't use these exact words, but it was something like 35 00:02:46,943 --> 00:02:49,207 ''You left Maria Luisa alone, mom. Why? 36 00:02:49,413 --> 00:02:54,612 l was in your belly and now l'm alone. Where are you? Where's dad?'' 37 00:02:59,790 --> 00:03:01,587 l watched my daughter come out of me, 38 00:03:01,792 --> 00:03:05,558 the way she was taken out, being shown very quickly to me 39 00:03:05,762 --> 00:03:09,994 by a pediatrician who didn't allow her to come closer. 40 00:03:13,270 --> 00:03:15,670 l asked them to untie me, but they didn't. 41 00:03:19,076 --> 00:03:21,340 After watching the video that l could realize 42 00:03:21,545 --> 00:03:24,343 the way they treated her, making her go through 43 00:03:24,548 --> 00:03:29,576 several procedures l consider highly unnecessary. 44 00:03:31,054 --> 00:03:34,353 Moreover, it was cold, there was a bright light in her eyes, 45 00:03:34,558 --> 00:03:37,584 she was crying. Besides being brutally taken out, 46 00:03:37,794 --> 00:03:43,528 she had to go through all that during her first minute of life. 47 00:03:50,140 --> 00:03:52,768 At that moment l made up my mind: 48 00:03:52,976 --> 00:03:57,379 my next daughter will be born the most natural way possible. 49 00:03:59,516 --> 00:04:02,076 This is not going to happen again. 50 00:04:03,587 --> 00:04:07,580 And l sought for information to know 51 00:04:07,791 --> 00:04:14,321 why and what l could do, so that my child could be born well... 52 00:04:16,133 --> 00:04:17,430 and l found it. 53 00:04:32,816 --> 00:04:37,617 ''BlRTH REBORN'' 54 00:04:37,821 --> 00:04:40,813 A FlLM BY �RlCA DE PAULA AND EDUARDO CHAUVET 55 00:04:43,693 --> 00:04:48,392 We are lucky to be dealing with an issue 56 00:04:48,598 --> 00:04:50,429 that has to do with everyone. 57 00:04:50,634 --> 00:04:55,298 Everyone was born and most people will desire to have a child. 58 00:04:55,572 --> 00:04:59,406 So this subject is related to the whole society. 59 00:05:23,867 --> 00:05:27,303 SClENTlST AND OB-GYN 60 00:05:52,796 --> 00:05:55,788 lndeed, there are stories telling us that labor during 61 00:05:55,999 --> 00:05:59,093 the pre-agricultural civilization was much simpler and much faster. 62 00:05:59,769 --> 00:06:05,605 The way childbirth is assisted in contemporary industrialized societies 63 00:06:05,909 --> 00:06:09,367 is a very new event if we take into consideration 64 00:06:09,579 --> 00:06:12,377 the time we have been on Earth. 65 00:06:24,527 --> 00:06:29,294 Childbirth used to be something absolutely of women among women. 66 00:06:29,833 --> 00:06:32,597 From that time on, there have been several changes. 67 00:06:32,802 --> 00:06:35,600 Technological breakthrough, 68 00:06:35,805 --> 00:06:39,206 the doctor as a new player in the childbirth scenario... 69 00:06:39,409 --> 00:06:42,537 And of course, by the time we place women inside a hospital, 70 00:06:42,746 --> 00:06:45,306 two other situations come historically: 71 00:06:45,515 --> 00:06:49,144 horizontal delivery and episiotomy. 72 00:06:59,562 --> 00:07:05,899 The entrance of men in the sacred and hidden universe of birth 73 00:07:06,102 --> 00:07:09,663 ended up bringing along, with the lights of reasoning, 74 00:07:09,873 --> 00:07:14,469 a change in the models and paradigms of childbirth. 75 00:07:14,811 --> 00:07:18,212 Not very long ago, a huge amount of babies used to be born at home, 76 00:07:18,415 --> 00:07:20,883 were attended by people from their community, by women. 77 00:07:21,584 --> 00:07:23,017 NURSE-MlDWlFE, PHD Of course that at that time, 78 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:24,344 if there was a problem, 79 00:07:24,554 --> 00:07:25,578 mother and baby would die, 80 00:07:25,789 --> 00:07:28,781 something that doesn't happen nowadays because we can combine 81 00:07:28,992 --> 00:07:33,452 modern science and ancient knowledge. 82 00:07:33,663 --> 00:07:37,497 Women have been going to a place specifically built 83 00:07:37,701 --> 00:07:40,192 to assist sick people, such as a hospital, 84 00:07:40,403 --> 00:07:42,667 for only 40 or 50 years. Therefore, 85 00:07:42,872 --> 00:07:47,241 it has been a very abrupt transformation of a family, 86 00:07:47,444 --> 00:07:50,880 OB-GYN affectionate event surrounded by people known to the woman 87 00:07:51,081 --> 00:07:53,447 and where she exerted a certain control 88 00:07:53,650 --> 00:07:56,517 into an event in an absolutely inhospitable place 89 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,087 with people who are complete strangers to her everyday life, 90 00:08:00,290 --> 00:08:05,592 full of machines. Thus it is quite a scary place for most women. 91 00:08:06,062 --> 00:08:09,657 lt is no wonder that many women upon arrival to the hospital 92 00:08:09,866 --> 00:08:13,927 start presenting problems which will subsequently be treated 93 00:08:14,137 --> 00:08:17,106 with further added technology by the doctors. 94 00:08:24,214 --> 00:08:27,342 CURRENT REALlTY 95 00:08:29,619 --> 00:08:33,180 ANTHROPOLOGlST, PHD 96 00:08:59,082 --> 00:09:02,950 When women went to the hospitals to have their children, 97 00:09:03,153 --> 00:09:06,350 as in a mass migration, they lost their power over birth. 98 00:09:06,556 --> 00:09:07,989 They handed it over to the doctors. 99 00:09:08,358 --> 00:09:11,691 They ended up settling to rigid patterns established 100 00:09:11,895 --> 00:09:15,262 by the medical system in which one has to deliver within a number of hours 101 00:09:15,465 --> 00:09:18,491 and behave in a standardized way. 102 00:09:38,288 --> 00:09:42,918 Oxytocin, endorphin, prolactin and even adrenalin 103 00:09:43,126 --> 00:09:46,493 are fundamental to the bonding phenomenon 104 00:09:46,696 --> 00:09:48,561 between the mother and child. 105 00:09:48,765 --> 00:09:50,824 These are extremely important hormones 106 00:09:51,034 --> 00:09:53,628 that are secreted during birth process 107 00:09:53,837 --> 00:09:56,829 in a very subtle way. 108 00:11:05,708 --> 00:11:08,506 We are not able to give birth like our mothers used to... 109 00:11:08,711 --> 00:11:11,236 my mother had 3 normal deliveries. Or like my grandmother. 110 00:11:11,447 --> 00:11:15,884 MOTHER AND PUBLlC MANAGER ln fact, we ask ourselves: ''What is happening with our bodies, 111 00:11:16,085 --> 00:11:18,144 with our history, that we're not able to do anymore 112 00:11:18,354 --> 00:11:20,948 what should be normal, right? 113 00:11:21,157 --> 00:11:23,660 ''Do what other mammals, other animals do.'' 114 00:11:31,734 --> 00:11:37,798 Highly technology-oriented, childbirth model of care in Brazil 115 00:11:38,007 --> 00:11:40,066 has slowly created 116 00:11:40,276 --> 00:11:46,647 MlNlSTRY OF HEALTH OFFlClAL a cultural phenomenon in which C-sections are the most comfortable 117 00:11:46,849 --> 00:11:51,115 mode of birth, perhaps more suitable to this consumer society. 118 00:11:51,321 --> 00:11:55,018 The world today is prone to put you into an OR for a C-section. 119 00:11:55,224 --> 00:11:56,486 l have understood that is a fact. 120 00:11:56,693 --> 00:11:59,856 Nowadays, childbirth in Brazil has become a surgical procedure 121 00:12:00,063 --> 00:12:02,156 rather than a physiological event. 122 00:12:02,398 --> 00:12:04,866 NURSE-MlDWlFE Everyone sees delivery as a surgical procedure: 123 00:12:05,068 --> 00:12:07,263 the doctor, the patient, the hospital. 124 00:12:07,904 --> 00:12:11,067 Brazilian health system is ineffective, right? 125 00:12:11,274 --> 00:12:16,109 Even private health insurance can't assist the way they should. 126 00:12:16,479 --> 00:12:20,176 ln regard to pregnant patients, it is a true increasing fact. 127 00:12:20,516 --> 00:12:25,044 ln a prenatal appointment today, a fifteen-minute appointment, 128 00:12:25,254 --> 00:12:26,949 you can't even clarify your doubts. 129 00:12:27,156 --> 00:12:29,556 1 5 minutes is the time it takes for you to lie down, 130 00:12:29,759 --> 00:12:31,693 for the doctor to measure your blood pressure and listen to your baby 131 00:12:31,894 --> 00:12:36,661 and you get up. How can a doctor afford to keep his office open, 132 00:12:36,866 --> 00:12:39,664 on business, right, with a 1 5-dollar fee? 133 00:12:48,077 --> 00:12:52,844 We are all taxpayers and we are paying 134 00:12:53,049 --> 00:12:57,679 EPlDEMlOLOGlST, PHD for an assistance which is either inappropriate 135 00:12:58,121 --> 00:13:02,217 or endangers the lives of women and babies. 136 00:13:13,002 --> 00:13:16,870 Nowadays, our cesarean rate, to our sorrow, 137 00:13:17,073 --> 00:13:18,938 exceeded 50�/�. 138 00:13:19,142 --> 00:13:23,078 We have a 52�/� cesarean rate in Brazil. 139 00:13:47,837 --> 00:13:51,034 There is a cultural and economic logic behind this. 140 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:53,003 There's a reason for that to have happened. 141 00:13:53,209 --> 00:13:57,543 The patient has this thinking that C-section is more controlled, 142 00:13:57,747 --> 00:14:00,614 it is less risky, that it does not carry any risks, 143 00:14:00,817 --> 00:14:03,479 that her baby will be saved. The doctor, on the other hand, 144 00:14:03,686 --> 00:14:06,211 despite having learned that vaginal birth is safe, 145 00:14:06,422 --> 00:14:08,117 that it's good for the mother and baby, 146 00:14:08,324 --> 00:14:11,259 he ends up believing a little in some of this false truth 147 00:14:11,461 --> 00:14:13,053 that C-section is safer. 148 00:14:17,266 --> 00:14:20,463 THE lNDUSTRY OF BlRTH 149 00:14:21,604 --> 00:14:25,131 l was very young, l was 22, 23 years old 150 00:14:25,341 --> 00:14:30,870 and l still had no idea of this world of C-sections. 151 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,208 MOTHER AND DlETlClAN l thought it was possible to have a normal birth, 152 00:14:34,417 --> 00:14:38,319 in fact, the doctor led me to believe this until the end of pregnancy, 153 00:14:38,521 --> 00:14:42,514 ''No doubt you will have a normal birth, don't worry about it, everything is OK.'' 154 00:14:43,059 --> 00:14:46,722 And suddenly she said that Pedro had the umbilical cord 155 00:14:46,929 --> 00:14:48,692 wrapped twice around his neck and that was the explanation 156 00:14:48,898 --> 00:14:51,799 she gave me so that Pedro would be born by C-section. 157 00:14:52,001 --> 00:14:54,561 l was very young. l truly believed her, 158 00:14:54,771 --> 00:14:57,501 but there was something in my unconscious, 159 00:14:57,707 --> 00:15:01,905 something telling me that l was wrong, it wasn't that way. 160 00:15:02,111 --> 00:15:07,549 Who would switch doctors at 38-39 weeks, going against her? 161 00:15:07,750 --> 00:15:10,344 lf there is any problem... and the whole family saying 162 00:15:10,553 --> 00:15:12,714 ''You must give birth now''. 163 00:15:12,922 --> 00:15:13,980 And then l ended up having the C- section. 164 00:15:14,190 --> 00:15:17,751 FATHER AND ACTOR Sure it's business! For the doctor it is much better to perform 165 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,293 a C-section. Of course there are exceptions, there are people 166 00:15:21,497 --> 00:15:27,402 who have a little more common sense and actually wait for birth, 167 00:15:27,603 --> 00:15:29,935 but most of them, they say they prefer doing a C-section. 168 00:15:38,481 --> 00:15:41,314 The amount of time one spends attending birth doesn't fit 169 00:15:41,517 --> 00:15:43,246 in the time schedule of many professionals. 170 00:15:43,553 --> 00:15:46,386 The amount of money private health insurance pays isn't worth 171 00:15:46,589 --> 00:15:48,216 cancelling your private office appointments. 172 00:15:48,424 --> 00:15:50,858 You earn more on one afternoon at the office than attending a birth. 173 00:15:51,060 --> 00:15:54,223 And we can't evade reality. 174 00:15:54,430 --> 00:15:57,422 Many C-sections are performed due to doctor's convenience. 175 00:15:57,767 --> 00:16:00,759 We see a lot more NlCU admissions 176 00:16:00,970 --> 00:16:02,995 PEDlATRlClAN the day before major holidays 177 00:16:03,206 --> 00:16:07,233 because on those dates C-sections are performed more frequently 178 00:16:07,910 --> 00:16:12,074 as obviously doctors want to spend the holiday without the risk 179 00:16:12,281 --> 00:16:15,045 of being forced to leave home to attend a birth. 180 00:16:15,518 --> 00:16:19,784 But that's part of our choice. We chose this specialty. 181 00:16:21,324 --> 00:16:23,952 OB-GYN, PHD When interviewing postpartum women, 182 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,254 they often believe that there was 183 00:16:27,463 --> 00:16:29,795 a medical indication for their C-sections. 184 00:16:30,700 --> 00:16:34,534 When we interview doctors, they blame 185 00:16:34,737 --> 00:16:39,003 women's decision for their C-sections. 186 00:16:39,275 --> 00:16:41,800 They are women who are sometimes in their first pregnancy, 187 00:16:42,011 --> 00:16:47,745 who are slaughtered in a cesarean, without the slightest mercy or pity. 188 00:17:02,298 --> 00:17:06,166 MOTHER AND ACCOUNTANT At first l had no idea about the type of birth l wanted. 189 00:17:06,369 --> 00:17:09,861 l was afraid but l started to find out that normal birth 190 00:17:10,072 --> 00:17:12,734 was really the best. l did a lot of research through internet, 191 00:17:12,942 --> 00:17:15,638 chatting with friends. And then it started like this: 192 00:17:15,845 --> 00:17:18,245 friends referred me to their doctors, right? 193 00:17:18,447 --> 00:17:21,575 But most of them wanted me to have a C-section. 194 00:17:21,784 --> 00:17:24,184 They tried to persuade me into a C-section. 195 00:17:24,387 --> 00:17:26,446 l would go and say: ''Doc, 196 00:17:27,089 --> 00:17:29,990 tell me about natural childbirth.'' And he replied: 197 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:34,762 ''No, Amanda, normal delivery? No, that doesn't exist anymore.'' 198 00:17:35,131 --> 00:17:37,964 He would say that nowadays C-sections are quick. 199 00:17:38,167 --> 00:17:41,227 You have one, go home, recover, and there is no problem at all. 200 00:17:41,437 --> 00:17:44,406 But this was just one doctor. After that 201 00:17:44,607 --> 00:17:46,632 l still had three appointments with him, 202 00:17:46,842 --> 00:17:53,179 but then he was scaring me and my desire for a normal birth increased. 203 00:18:39,028 --> 00:18:41,019 Now, think from the hospital perspective. 204 00:18:41,230 --> 00:18:44,597 What would you prefer? One patient, like a pregnant woman, 205 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,496 who will deliver a baby and will not spend anything from that hospital, 206 00:18:47,703 --> 00:18:50,103 she will basically pay for her hospital stay, 207 00:18:50,306 --> 00:18:53,139 because in a natural birth you spend what? Compress, 208 00:18:53,342 --> 00:18:56,209 gauze, nothing else. So for the hospital 209 00:18:56,412 --> 00:18:59,904 it is much more interesting to get that conveniently scheduled patient 210 00:19:00,116 --> 00:19:04,052 that they can count how many patients there will be during that day, right? 211 00:19:04,253 --> 00:19:09,247 The OR moves smoothly and orderly... 212 00:19:09,492 --> 00:19:13,292 When a laboring woman arrives, the party is over, isn't it? 213 00:19:13,496 --> 00:19:15,862 For twelve hours that OR cannot be used 214 00:19:16,065 --> 00:19:19,159 because there's a laboring woman there. 215 00:19:37,286 --> 00:19:39,914 lt is a multifactorial problem; there isn't a character 216 00:19:40,122 --> 00:19:42,784 CERTlFlED PROFESSlONAL MlDWlFE such as the big bad wolf in this story. 217 00:19:42,992 --> 00:19:46,655 There are interests that intertwine. 218 00:19:47,463 --> 00:19:51,263 But one of the things we hear most is that women ask for C-sections 219 00:19:51,467 --> 00:19:54,925 and then there are two aspects: firstly, if a woman thinks 220 00:19:55,137 --> 00:20:00,006 that her option is that horrendous birth, when she is abandoned 221 00:20:00,209 --> 00:20:04,908 and she has no privacy, there's cutting and pain, 222 00:20:05,414 --> 00:20:07,746 she asks for cesarean. And the second aspect is that 223 00:20:07,950 --> 00:20:10,441 this woman who actually asks for a C-section, she exists, 224 00:20:10,653 --> 00:20:11,847 but she is a minority in Brazil. 225 00:20:12,054 --> 00:20:14,955 There is research on that. Potter's work, 226 00:20:15,157 --> 00:20:20,026 in collaboration with Professor Fa�ndes, has shown 227 00:20:20,229 --> 00:20:25,257 that only 20�/� of women in early pregnancy preferred C-section. 228 00:20:25,701 --> 00:20:29,262 Most women get pregnant and say ''l wish l have a normal birth''. 229 00:20:29,505 --> 00:20:32,872 As prenatal care continues, she changes her mind. 230 00:20:33,576 --> 00:20:37,706 And sometimes things are very subtle like, ''Wow, what a big baby, 231 00:20:38,981 --> 00:20:43,475 you know, do you think it's going to pass? Difficult, right, 232 00:20:43,686 --> 00:20:47,816 a big baby like that!'' This is only to undermine women's self-confidence. 233 00:20:48,057 --> 00:20:50,685 ''Oh, do you want a normal birth? Congratulations, 234 00:20:50,893 --> 00:20:56,024 because it hurts a lot, it is very difficult, you are quite brave.'' 235 00:20:56,332 --> 00:21:00,428 That kind of subliminal message that normal birth is difficult, 236 00:21:00,636 --> 00:21:05,198 painful, a difficult challenge to overcome, 237 00:21:05,407 --> 00:21:07,170 already undermining her confidence. She says 238 00:21:07,376 --> 00:21:09,310 ''Hey, it's true, am l ready for that?'' 239 00:21:12,214 --> 00:21:16,241 Three weeks before my due date, he said that even though 240 00:21:16,452 --> 00:21:18,943 she was head down and engaged, she was too large. 241 00:21:19,522 --> 00:21:24,186 Then he asked me to do an ultrasound with a doctor he referred me to. 242 00:21:24,393 --> 00:21:26,156 We saw my baby moving. Everything was fine. 243 00:21:26,362 --> 00:21:28,922 Then we saw a frozen image with a baby with the umbilical cord 244 00:21:29,131 --> 00:21:30,826 wrapped around her neck three times. 245 00:21:31,033 --> 00:21:33,399 And at that moment we realized that it was not our daughter 246 00:21:33,602 --> 00:21:36,002 on the screen and we told him, showing distrust 247 00:21:36,205 --> 00:21:39,038 MOTHER AND PROFESSOR and he changed the subject. We left 248 00:21:39,241 --> 00:21:42,233 and headed to another clinic where there was a doctor 249 00:21:42,444 --> 00:21:47,848 whom we trusted, that attended my first birth, my first pregnancy. 250 00:21:48,050 --> 00:21:50,746 Then l did the ultrasound there half an hour later 251 00:21:50,953 --> 00:21:53,183 and there was no loop of umbilical cord around her neck. 252 00:21:53,389 --> 00:21:55,823 That day l returned to my doctor's office 253 00:21:56,025 --> 00:22:00,325 and showed him the second ultrasound without the loop around her neck. 254 00:22:00,629 --> 00:22:02,597 He said ''Oh, you didn't have the ultrasound done 255 00:22:02,798 --> 00:22:04,026 with the doctor that l recommended?'' l said ''No, 256 00:22:04,233 --> 00:22:05,962 l preferred to have it done by this doctor, whom l trust.'' 257 00:22:06,769 --> 00:22:12,139 He said, ''The thing is that your baby is big. l can't deliver her. 258 00:22:12,341 --> 00:22:14,070 You'll have to have C-section.'' l said, 259 00:22:14,276 --> 00:22:17,177 ''Doctor, can't l even wait, you know, wait for contractions, 260 00:22:17,379 --> 00:22:20,041 have any sign that she is ready to be born?'' He said 261 00:22:20,249 --> 00:22:23,309 ''No, we can schedule. l have a day, next Wednesday. 262 00:22:23,519 --> 00:22:25,612 lf you want to schedule C-section, l'll do it for you; 263 00:22:25,821 --> 00:22:27,812 if not, you can find another doctor.'' 264 00:22:32,528 --> 00:22:35,497 For those who know how to perform surgeries, 265 00:22:35,698 --> 00:22:37,689 it's the curse of the scalpel, a very easy solution. 266 00:22:37,900 --> 00:22:42,462 You must have philosophical principles and very strong convictions 267 00:22:42,671 --> 00:22:45,606 not to give in to this temptation. 268 00:22:52,314 --> 00:22:55,408 There are some private health insurances that pay out only $90 269 00:22:55,618 --> 00:22:59,645 for a doctor to attend a birth. Ninety dollars! 270 00:22:59,922 --> 00:23:02,789 lt's a great responsibility, you have to be available 271 00:23:02,992 --> 00:23:05,654 since the patient enters the ninth month, you have to be available 272 00:23:05,861 --> 00:23:08,329 for her night and day, from dusk till dawn. 273 00:23:08,530 --> 00:23:11,363 l guess it's the only specialty that you have two lives in your hands 274 00:23:11,567 --> 00:23:17,528 all the time, in a hospital where there isn't any kind of support, 275 00:23:17,740 --> 00:23:20,504 no physical structure. 276 00:23:21,310 --> 00:23:22,743 Then there comes a point when you get tired. 277 00:23:22,945 --> 00:23:25,641 Still, many doctors start their careers attending vaginal births, 278 00:23:25,848 --> 00:23:29,841 they struggle to do so, as time goes by, that starts to fade away 279 00:23:30,052 --> 00:23:32,179 if you don't have very strong convictions. 280 00:23:32,388 --> 00:23:35,323 That creates a feeling of dissatisfaction, and then 281 00:23:35,524 --> 00:23:36,786 you decide you don't want any of that anymore. 282 00:23:39,561 --> 00:23:43,088 MYTHS 283 00:23:43,299 --> 00:23:46,996 Many myths have been created about the risks, right, 284 00:23:47,202 --> 00:23:49,363 and you, as a protective mother, what do you do? 285 00:23:49,571 --> 00:23:52,096 You want to minimize them. And then someone asks you: 286 00:23:52,308 --> 00:23:53,969 ''Do you want your baby to suffer greater or minor risks?'' 287 00:23:54,109 --> 00:23:58,045 So, if you want to talk about risks, stop, study, read and understand 288 00:23:58,247 --> 00:24:00,112 which risks exist in each line of thought. 289 00:24:00,749 --> 00:24:02,683 Prenatal myths are numerous. 290 00:24:02,885 --> 00:24:05,820 We find them in beauty salons in those chats about 291 00:24:06,021 --> 00:24:10,219 my neighbor's cousin. ''My neighbor's cousin 292 00:24:10,426 --> 00:24:12,894 tried a vaginal birth and something horrible happened.'' 293 00:24:13,095 --> 00:24:17,498 At the doctor's the myths we find are: the baby is big and won't pass; 294 00:24:17,766 --> 00:24:22,897 the woman is old, she can't birth - and by old l mean she is over 30, 35. 295 00:24:23,639 --> 00:24:27,006 That she is too young to give birth; that she is too fat to give birth, 296 00:24:27,209 --> 00:24:32,806 or too skinny; that she is sedentary; that her vagina will become loose; 297 00:24:33,148 --> 00:24:35,639 well... that it hurts a lot; that if you have high blood pressure 298 00:24:35,851 --> 00:24:39,548 you can't have a normal birth, that a diabetic can't have it either... 299 00:24:39,988 --> 00:24:43,651 Umbilical cord around baby's neck, baby too big, baby too small, 300 00:24:44,259 --> 00:24:49,219 advanced placenta maturity, high or low amniotic fluid levels 301 00:24:49,431 --> 00:24:53,094 are fake indications. They are ghostly entities 302 00:24:53,302 --> 00:24:58,069 that have been created for cesarean indications. 303 00:25:09,351 --> 00:25:12,616 One of the greatest excuses, the champion of all, 304 00:25:12,821 --> 00:25:16,587 is the cord wrapped around the baby's neck. 305 00:25:16,792 --> 00:25:21,195 lt's an absolutely physiological finding and around 40�/� of the babies 306 00:25:21,397 --> 00:25:25,265 are born with a loop of umbilical cord around their necks, 307 00:25:25,467 --> 00:25:27,958 but the myth of the ''killing cord'' has been created. 308 00:25:28,170 --> 00:25:32,766 There isn't any chance of a baby being strangled by his umbilical cord! 309 00:25:32,975 --> 00:25:35,000 Another talk we hear a lot is 310 00:25:35,244 --> 00:25:37,610 that the woman didn't go into labor, which is, 311 00:25:37,813 --> 00:25:42,250 you know, a lie because all women go into labor. 312 00:25:42,451 --> 00:25:44,783 Yet, if they perform a C-section before labor starts, 313 00:25:44,987 --> 00:25:46,852 then obviously she won't go into labor. 314 00:25:47,356 --> 00:25:52,419 But if we wait until 42 weeks, that is the period of time 315 00:25:52,628 --> 00:25:55,927 a pregnancy might last, women will go into labor eventually. 316 00:25:56,131 --> 00:26:02,331 We hear a lot about lack of dilation, but this is extremely rare. 317 00:26:02,805 --> 00:26:06,866 ln most cases referred as lack of dilation, 318 00:26:07,209 --> 00:26:09,734 there wasn't any respect for what is physiological; 319 00:26:09,945 --> 00:26:12,505 women were admitted to the hospital too early 320 00:26:12,781 --> 00:26:16,080 or not in active labor. 321 00:26:16,285 --> 00:26:21,917 lt takes patience and waiting 322 00:26:22,124 --> 00:26:25,218 as dilation won't happen as if by magic. 323 00:27:54,483 --> 00:27:57,247 l remember asking my doctor: ''ls everything all right with him?'' 324 00:27:57,452 --> 00:28:00,683 Because l told her that once born, l wanted him to come to me, 325 00:28:00,889 --> 00:28:03,687 l was already not happy with that C-section, alright? 326 00:28:03,892 --> 00:28:07,123 ''Look, when he is born, please, leave him with me''. 327 00:28:07,329 --> 00:28:10,321 And l kept asking if everything was OK and no one would answer me! 328 00:28:10,532 --> 00:28:13,399 And l was worried because Pedro had to go to another corner 329 00:28:14,102 --> 00:28:15,194 with the pediatrician. l couldn't stop 330 00:28:15,404 --> 00:28:16,701 asking if everything was alright with him! 331 00:28:16,905 --> 00:28:19,533 Then she came to me and said ''Andrea! 332 00:28:19,741 --> 00:28:22,608 Everything is fine with your son, calm down!'' Just like that. 333 00:28:22,811 --> 00:28:27,407 And l said: ''Ok, everything is fine, but l want him here with me.'' 334 00:28:27,749 --> 00:28:32,686 You know, l was so fragile with such rude answer she gave me. 335 00:28:33,255 --> 00:28:36,224 And she was so insensitive, you know, 336 00:28:36,425 --> 00:28:39,519 in such an important moment for me, she didn't respect that. 337 00:28:40,896 --> 00:28:43,729 Because for her, it's just another one, isn't it? lt's different. 338 00:28:43,932 --> 00:28:45,559 For her it was just another one being born. 339 00:28:46,835 --> 00:28:49,861 CESAREAN SURGERY 340 00:28:50,973 --> 00:28:54,409 Cesarean is a wonderful surgery that saves lives every day, 341 00:28:54,610 --> 00:28:57,340 but it is not to be performed in every patient, 342 00:28:57,546 --> 00:29:00,606 in an unnecessary way, electively, without labor. 343 00:29:00,849 --> 00:29:05,616 When it is non-medically indicated, it puts woman and baby at risk, 344 00:29:05,821 --> 00:29:09,086 three times more than in a normal delivery. 345 00:29:09,791 --> 00:29:13,659 For the baby, the risk of an unnecessary cesarean surgery 346 00:29:13,862 --> 00:29:16,387 is the risk of being born prematurely. 347 00:29:16,598 --> 00:29:18,964 Ultrasound, for instance, is important 348 00:29:19,167 --> 00:29:24,036 to estimate gestational age until 1 3 weeks. 349 00:29:24,239 --> 00:29:26,503 lt is more accurate in this period. 350 00:29:26,942 --> 00:29:30,844 Near the end of pregnancy the margin of error increases to plus or minus 351 00:29:31,046 --> 00:29:34,573 two weeks in predicting a due date. Some scientific studies have shown 352 00:29:34,783 --> 00:29:37,650 that this error is frequently for less. 353 00:29:37,853 --> 00:29:43,883 Therefore, we think the baby is 37 or 38 weeks 354 00:29:44,092 --> 00:29:46,822 when in reality she is two weeks younger. 355 00:29:47,029 --> 00:29:51,830 Nowadays this is what we call a hidden epidemic, 356 00:29:52,034 --> 00:29:56,494 which happens in higher social classes 357 00:29:56,705 --> 00:30:00,300 and it's becoming almost natural that the way to be born 358 00:30:00,609 --> 00:30:02,668 is through a C-section. 359 00:30:02,878 --> 00:30:08,339 And it's a scheduled cesarean section. 360 00:30:08,550 --> 00:30:10,984 And what comes as a consequence is that premature babies 361 00:30:11,186 --> 00:30:13,848 are being brought into this world. Babies that very often need to go 362 00:30:14,056 --> 00:30:19,790 to the NlCU and suffer all the repercussion of being premature, 363 00:30:20,162 --> 00:30:22,653 not ready to be born. 364 00:30:22,898 --> 00:30:29,167 Among lay public the idea that remains is that the C-section 365 00:30:29,371 --> 00:30:34,001 saved that baby. lf the baby was born in bad conditions by C-section, 366 00:30:34,209 --> 00:30:36,177 imagine if the mother had waited 3 weeks longer! 367 00:30:36,378 --> 00:30:37,743 Under what conditions would this baby be born? 368 00:30:41,416 --> 00:30:45,182 lf there is one thing we can say that is really radical, that's birth. 369 00:30:45,387 --> 00:30:50,552 lt's true, clamping the cord, abstracting from all symbolism in it. 370 00:30:50,759 --> 00:30:54,354 You are connected to a placenta that is attached to your mother, 371 00:30:54,563 --> 00:31:00,160 everything biologically functioning together, and then in the next second 372 00:31:00,368 --> 00:31:02,563 you say ''now you are on your own''; 373 00:31:02,771 --> 00:31:05,535 this is deeply radical 374 00:31:05,741 --> 00:31:09,177 and that's exactly what happens during a scheduled C-section. 375 00:31:21,123 --> 00:31:25,753 World Health Organization studies show that C-sections 376 00:31:25,961 --> 00:31:28,725 without a well-defined clinical indication are associated 377 00:31:28,930 --> 00:31:32,627 with the increase of respiratory complications for the newborn, 378 00:31:32,834 --> 00:31:37,635 increasing chance of being admitted into the neonatal lCU 379 00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:40,137 and increase in neonatal mortality. 380 00:31:40,342 --> 00:31:42,333 For the mother there is a higher risk 381 00:31:42,544 --> 00:31:44,910 of hemorrhagic and infectious complications, 382 00:31:45,113 --> 00:31:49,072 let alone long-term complications. 383 00:31:49,284 --> 00:31:52,014 Then one has to look at greater populations, 384 00:31:52,220 --> 00:31:55,417 cannot look at ten births but rather check one thousand births at least. 385 00:31:55,624 --> 00:31:58,991 And then we will identify that in elective C-sections 386 00:31:59,194 --> 00:32:01,924 there are more premature babies being born, more infections, 387 00:32:02,130 --> 00:32:04,860 more weaning, a more difficult mother-baby bonding. 388 00:32:05,066 --> 00:32:07,057 lt's evident that if born that way, 389 00:32:07,269 --> 00:32:10,397 frequently the baby is not given to her mother, 390 00:32:10,605 --> 00:32:13,369 she is not allowed to nurse in the OR, 391 00:32:13,575 --> 00:32:17,602 no one waits for the birth to end before all the procedures are done 392 00:32:17,813 --> 00:32:20,714 with her, they take the baby away, it's the same assembly line. 393 00:32:26,922 --> 00:32:29,891 What l want to know is ''did we schedule with the baby 394 00:32:30,091 --> 00:32:33,754 that she is going to be born on Friday at 4 PM, and if we did, 395 00:32:33,962 --> 00:32:37,056 did she answer that she is ready to come?'' 396 00:32:41,002 --> 00:32:45,803 This is an impossible agreement! That doesn't exist. 397 00:33:16,304 --> 00:33:19,364 Then l switched doctors, l had three appointments with him 398 00:33:19,574 --> 00:33:22,042 and l felt l was being put on the backburner, understand? 399 00:33:22,244 --> 00:33:24,712 From the beginning l told him l wanted to birth 400 00:33:24,913 --> 00:33:30,818 and in one of the visits, l was already 8 months pregnant 401 00:33:31,086 --> 00:33:36,114 and he said: ''Look, Amanda, l can't deliver your baby.'' 402 00:33:37,092 --> 00:33:40,687 Outraged, l started looking for another doctor. 403 00:33:40,896 --> 00:33:42,591 l had nothing else to do, l was eight months pregnant, 404 00:33:42,797 --> 00:33:45,732 l had to have the baby and l still wanted to have a normal birth. 405 00:33:46,001 --> 00:33:50,734 One day l felt sick and went to a hospital, right, to an ER. 406 00:33:50,972 --> 00:33:54,965 And l met this doctor, told him my story, that l wanted a normal birth. 407 00:33:55,176 --> 00:33:58,373 And he spoke like that: ''Well, Amanda, you have a good pelvis, 408 00:33:58,580 --> 00:34:03,950 we can deliver your baby''. So l had my last prenatal visits 409 00:34:04,152 --> 00:34:09,351 with this doctor and waited for the day to come. 410 00:34:10,125 --> 00:34:14,084 ESSENTlAL FEMALE DEFECTlVENESS 411 00:34:15,430 --> 00:34:18,160 Human birth is an event that has been molded over 412 00:34:18,366 --> 00:34:23,360 five to seven million years of experimentation. 413 00:34:23,872 --> 00:34:27,865 ln spite of those million years of improvement 414 00:34:28,076 --> 00:34:32,536 culminating in the contemporary obstetric model, it was fundamental 415 00:34:32,747 --> 00:34:37,207 to create the idea that women are essentially incompetent 416 00:34:37,485 --> 00:34:41,478 and unable to handle the birth process by themselves. 417 00:34:41,690 --> 00:34:43,885 We were trained during medical school to believe 418 00:34:44,092 --> 00:34:49,894 that female's bodies are defective, that a woman needs interventions 419 00:34:50,098 --> 00:34:55,502 to be able to birth and that our intervention is always necessary. 420 00:34:55,704 --> 00:34:58,673 Women themselves believe that they are unable 421 00:34:58,873 --> 00:35:03,207 to give birth to their children in a more natural and physiological way 422 00:35:03,411 --> 00:35:07,973 because culture contaminates their self-esteem. 423 00:35:08,183 --> 00:35:11,584 And then, what should have essentially been an empowering process 424 00:35:11,786 --> 00:35:16,314 for them by the time they give life and birth, has been transformed 425 00:35:16,524 --> 00:35:20,858 into a process that fundamentally strengthens doctors and corporations. 426 00:35:21,696 --> 00:35:26,065 We have a lot to learn from countryside women, 427 00:35:26,267 --> 00:35:29,202 because they are in close contact 428 00:35:29,404 --> 00:35:32,430 with their own being and with nature. 429 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,098 When they get pregnant, they do not doubt whether or not 430 00:35:36,311 --> 00:35:39,747 they are going to be able to give birth. The brain doesn't get in the way, 431 00:35:39,948 --> 00:35:43,145 you know? The mind of the modern woman does get in the way. 432 00:35:43,785 --> 00:35:49,018 We need to clear ourselves from those mental contaminations, 433 00:35:49,524 --> 00:35:53,961 this social idea that the woman will not give birth because 434 00:35:54,095 --> 00:35:56,563 MlDWlFE AND ANTHROPOLOGlST women nowadays don't know how to give birth anymore. 435 00:35:56,765 --> 00:35:59,734 This is not true. We women, we know how to give birth! 436 00:35:59,934 --> 00:36:02,630 We enjoy giving birth. 437 00:36:43,812 --> 00:36:47,213 l've always been skinny, my hips are narrow, 438 00:36:47,415 --> 00:36:49,713 l used to think l had some kind of defect, 439 00:36:49,918 --> 00:36:53,445 that l would never be able to give birth until l got pregnant. 440 00:36:54,222 --> 00:36:56,816 MOTHER AND PUBLlC SERVANT l ended up switching OB doctors, l heard stories 441 00:36:57,025 --> 00:37:03,191 that the first would make up excuses. After being able to give birth normally, 442 00:37:03,998 --> 00:37:07,559 l realized l don't have any defect, 443 00:37:07,769 --> 00:37:11,136 l'm part of the Nature's perfection. 444 00:37:11,372 --> 00:37:13,602 My daughter was born small, she's not a big baby 445 00:37:13,808 --> 00:37:17,539 and l am a small woman and even then Nature is perfect. 446 00:37:18,580 --> 00:37:20,810 The current Brazilian childbirth model of care 447 00:37:21,015 --> 00:37:22,676 - and in many other countries around the world - 448 00:37:22,884 --> 00:37:26,012 is doubtlessly based on pathology. 449 00:37:26,354 --> 00:37:30,620 We sometimes end up doing what we call prenatal nocebo effect, 450 00:37:30,859 --> 00:37:33,123 when we label that woman, you know... 451 00:37:33,328 --> 00:37:35,990 ''Either she has high or low blood pressure, 452 00:37:36,197 --> 00:37:37,664 too much or too little amniotic fluid, 453 00:37:37,866 --> 00:37:39,595 she puts on too much or too little weight.'' 454 00:37:39,801 --> 00:37:43,635 These are minor issues that are created to show 455 00:37:43,838 --> 00:37:46,534 that this woman, she has a problem. 456 00:37:46,741 --> 00:37:49,437 Hardly does a woman leave any prenatal visit saying: 457 00:37:49,644 --> 00:37:51,908 ''l'm great, l'm happy, everything is alright''. 458 00:37:52,247 --> 00:37:58,846 This is very cool, facing pregnancy not as a state of tension, worries, 459 00:37:59,053 --> 00:38:01,613 thinking that something might go wrong, and yes... 460 00:38:01,823 --> 00:38:05,350 ''see, how nice, l am creating life! A gorgeous pregnant woman! 461 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,188 Look how cool it is, what a blessing, you know?'' 462 00:38:08,863 --> 00:38:13,493 An OB who worked for several years in a reference hospital, 463 00:38:13,701 --> 00:38:16,431 he has seen so many problems that it's difficult to separate 464 00:38:16,638 --> 00:38:17,662 the wheat from the chaff. 465 00:38:17,872 --> 00:38:19,703 And most pregnancies are healthy and normal, 466 00:38:19,908 --> 00:38:22,342 but the complicated cases make a real impression. 467 00:38:22,544 --> 00:38:24,034 Today you arrive at the doctor's and say: 468 00:38:24,245 --> 00:38:27,874 l want to have a normal birth. The classic answer is: 469 00:38:28,082 --> 00:38:31,779 ''lf everything is all right, then you can have a normal birth''. 470 00:38:31,986 --> 00:38:34,216 At the time you say ''if everything is all right'', 471 00:38:34,422 --> 00:38:38,552 we almost reverse that: ''Of course you are going to have a normal birth, 472 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,228 if something bad happens, then you can't.'' 473 00:40:18,126 --> 00:40:21,357 l was here at home, already sleeping when my water broke 474 00:40:21,562 --> 00:40:24,793 at around 3 am. So next we called the doctor. 475 00:40:25,066 --> 00:40:28,035 So he said he was kinda sleepy because it was 3 in the morning 476 00:40:28,236 --> 00:40:31,899 and he asked: ''What time is it?'' l replied: ''3 am.'' 477 00:40:32,106 --> 00:40:34,802 ''No, Amanda, you gotta wait now.'' Good, then. 478 00:40:35,009 --> 00:40:38,706 Five minutes later he called me. l'm not kidding, 479 00:40:38,913 --> 00:40:40,847 l think it was 5 minutes and he said: ''No, Amanda, 480 00:40:41,049 --> 00:40:44,212 go to the hospital because l have to check on you, 481 00:40:44,419 --> 00:40:49,447 we will feel your dilation, see it right, the color of the fluid 482 00:40:49,657 --> 00:40:52,558 that is draining out...'' And everything was fine, right, 483 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,024 l told him about the color of the fluid, and he said: 484 00:40:55,229 --> 00:40:56,890 ''lt's normal, but head to the hospital let's take a look. 485 00:40:57,098 --> 00:40:58,725 When you arrive there, you will be checked by a colleague 486 00:40:58,933 --> 00:41:02,391 and then l'll arrive. lf that's the case, we will have to perform 487 00:41:02,603 --> 00:41:07,370 a C-section.'' l arrived, she did a vaginal exam 488 00:41:07,575 --> 00:41:12,444 and l was 1 cm dilated. My doctor arrived right away and said so: 489 00:41:12,647 --> 00:41:14,877 ''Oh, Amanda, this can be very harmful for your baby, 490 00:41:15,083 --> 00:41:20,043 because until you pass through all the dilation process, 491 00:41:20,254 --> 00:41:23,985 it can take long and can lead to fetal distress.'' 492 00:41:24,859 --> 00:41:26,292 l got scared, you see, l said, 493 00:41:26,494 --> 00:41:29,827 l'm not going to let that happen. Do what you gotta do. 494 00:41:37,038 --> 00:41:40,804 EVlDENCE-BASED MEDlClNE 495 00:41:41,809 --> 00:41:46,405 ln theory there should be a bridge over which the produced 496 00:41:46,614 --> 00:41:50,812 scientific knowledge from one side to the obstetric practice 497 00:41:51,018 --> 00:41:53,009 on the other side would pass. Unfortunately, 498 00:41:53,221 --> 00:41:55,621 this bridge is broken in many circumstances. 499 00:41:55,990 --> 00:42:00,620 Contrary to what many lay people think, for a long period of time, 500 00:42:00,828 --> 00:42:05,128 medical practice was not supported by solid scientific evidence. 501 00:42:05,700 --> 00:42:08,897 When we started talking about evidence-based medicine, 502 00:42:09,103 --> 00:42:12,504 there were people, especially health providers, 503 00:42:12,707 --> 00:42:14,675 who were shocked: ''but how is that possible? 504 00:42:14,876 --> 00:42:17,743 How come medicine is not based on evidence? 505 00:42:17,979 --> 00:42:20,914 lsn't medicine a scientific activity?'' 506 00:42:21,249 --> 00:42:27,415 lndeed, most clinical practice, until recently, 507 00:42:27,622 --> 00:42:30,648 was not endorsed by solid scientific evidence, unfortunately. 508 00:42:31,359 --> 00:42:35,887 Some researchers realized that childbirth care 509 00:42:36,097 --> 00:42:41,899 was based on guessing, on medical dogma. 510 00:42:42,203 --> 00:42:44,899 Then they questioned that, started to investigate 511 00:42:45,106 --> 00:42:50,408 and to compare birth outcomes with or without episiotomy, 512 00:42:50,611 --> 00:42:52,841 with or without Pitocin, for instance. 513 00:42:53,047 --> 00:42:55,948 And it dawned on them that most procedures were harmful and painful, 514 00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:58,948 and shouldn't be routinely performed. 515 00:42:59,153 --> 00:43:05,717 lt's tragic. Many health professionals didn't have access 516 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,420 to this knowledge. Many medical school professors 517 00:43:10,631 --> 00:43:17,161 do not update their teachings according to scientific evidences. 518 00:43:17,405 --> 00:43:20,238 There is that common speech: ''l've been delivering babies 519 00:43:20,441 --> 00:43:23,604 for 30 years, l've always performed episiotomy and have never had 520 00:43:23,811 --> 00:43:25,802 any problem. lt's not now that l'm going to change.'' 521 00:43:26,013 --> 00:43:32,350 So it's very difficult to go against this authoritative speech. 522 00:43:32,553 --> 00:43:36,353 lf the doctor said so, then... ''Geez, who knows better than the doctor?'' 523 00:43:37,391 --> 00:43:41,020 RlTUALlSTlC lNTERVENTlONS 524 00:43:55,543 --> 00:44:02,210 Human birth merges together the three most feared events to mankind: 525 00:44:02,850 --> 00:44:06,047 life, death and sexuality. 526 00:44:06,420 --> 00:44:11,050 lt's exactly for that reason that we feel the need to ritualize, 527 00:44:11,259 --> 00:44:14,695 creating in ourselves, health professionals, 528 00:44:14,896 --> 00:44:17,262 the delusion that we have control over birth. 529 00:44:17,698 --> 00:44:21,225 That's why we resort to numerous ritualistic interventions 530 00:44:21,435 --> 00:44:23,699 that bear no connection with scientific evidence 531 00:44:23,905 --> 00:44:26,237 when attending pregnant women in hospitals. 532 00:44:47,662 --> 00:44:52,725 Women are obliged to give birth in the conventional dorsal position, 533 00:44:52,934 --> 00:44:59,498 must lie down during labor and suffer unnecessary interventions. 534 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:24,823 And during birth itself, apart from several aggressive, 535 00:45:25,032 --> 00:45:27,193 inadequate and unnecessary verbal orders, 536 00:45:27,401 --> 00:45:31,497 there are also other interventions such as episiotomy 537 00:45:31,739 --> 00:45:33,764 and Kristeller maneuver. 538 00:45:33,975 --> 00:45:38,173 lt is calculated that no more than 1 5�/� of women 539 00:45:38,379 --> 00:45:43,043 present health or birth dynamics problems to require 540 00:45:43,250 --> 00:45:45,946 some sort of intervention, nevertheless we are close 541 00:45:46,153 --> 00:45:50,214 to 1 00�/� intervention. And it is not possible that 1 00�/� of women 542 00:45:50,424 --> 00:45:53,518 may have a defect or problems that prevent them 543 00:45:53,728 --> 00:45:57,186 from giving birth naturally. ''Our bodies were not made for that?'' 544 00:45:57,965 --> 00:46:01,401 My water broke at home, but during birth, 545 00:46:01,602 --> 00:46:04,867 the OB climbed upon my stomach along with the pediatrician, 546 00:46:05,072 --> 00:46:07,802 right, to help me... The pediatrician was trying to push, 547 00:46:08,009 --> 00:46:10,842 MOTHER AND HOUSEWlFE telling me to push my daughter out and the other doctor was over me, 548 00:46:11,045 --> 00:46:13,104 and they cut me down here, so l could deliver the baby. 549 00:46:13,914 --> 00:46:17,213 Contemporary society frequently produces the poison, 550 00:46:17,418 --> 00:46:21,548 and then sells the antidote. That's clearly what happened to childbirth. 551 00:46:23,024 --> 00:46:27,188 And then people have this collective fantasy 552 00:46:27,395 --> 00:46:30,023 that it was either the mother's or the baby's fault, 553 00:46:30,231 --> 00:46:31,255 or even the childbirth itself was to be blamed. 554 00:46:31,465 --> 00:46:34,161 The problem was never caused by those unnecessary interventions. 555 00:46:34,368 --> 00:46:37,496 So the idea is that hospital staff saved all these people. 556 00:46:37,705 --> 00:46:39,832 Actually, these unnecessary interventions performed 557 00:46:40,041 --> 00:46:43,010 in hospital's routine have created all those subsequent problems. 558 00:46:43,210 --> 00:46:45,508 Sometimes it works like a cascade of inadequate procedures, 559 00:46:45,713 --> 00:46:48,705 not only one isolated event. For every procedure 560 00:46:48,916 --> 00:46:51,146 there is not only its inherent risk but also the need 561 00:46:51,352 --> 00:46:57,621 of additional interventions in order to fix what the first has caused. 562 00:46:58,459 --> 00:47:02,987 Women are not asked for permission for all the procedures 563 00:47:03,197 --> 00:47:05,461 that are made on their bodies. 564 00:47:05,700 --> 00:47:10,933 They sometimes suffer very aggressive interventions. 565 00:47:11,338 --> 00:47:14,239 lt's a dilemma that we must solve by searching 566 00:47:14,442 --> 00:47:19,470 for another childbirth model of care, a natural birth indeed, 567 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:24,845 in which physiology should be respected, in which interventions 568 00:47:25,052 --> 00:47:30,354 would be performed under strict indication only. 569 00:47:33,761 --> 00:47:38,289 A newborn is like wet cement and everything that they feel 570 00:47:38,499 --> 00:47:41,900 and their every sensation is amplified. 571 00:47:42,269 --> 00:47:46,467 So, when a child is born at a cozy home and is immediately placed 572 00:47:46,674 --> 00:47:48,835 in the warm arms of her parents, you know, and 573 00:47:49,043 --> 00:47:53,742 experiences skin-to-skin contact... the message she receives is: 574 00:47:53,948 --> 00:47:57,611 ''it is worth being born, this world feels like a receptive one, 575 00:47:57,818 --> 00:48:03,120 it is a warm world. lf she is born and separated 576 00:48:03,324 --> 00:48:09,695 from her father and mother, it is a beginning marked by the need 577 00:48:09,897 --> 00:48:14,095 for survival which is very hard on them. 578 00:48:25,546 --> 00:48:30,984 The classical hospital childbirth is very violent. 579 00:48:31,185 --> 00:48:34,052 There is the dispassionate handling of the baby, 580 00:48:34,255 --> 00:48:38,885 PERlNATAL PSYCHOLOGY stretching that little shrunken body, all the noise and the lights around. 581 00:48:39,093 --> 00:48:43,086 lt is such a great shock that the first strong transition of their lives 582 00:48:43,297 --> 00:48:44,889 is marked by violence. 583 00:49:02,550 --> 00:49:04,916 l remember when Pedro was born, that the girl 584 00:49:05,119 --> 00:49:07,644 who was going to bathe him picked him up as if he were a chicken, 585 00:49:07,855 --> 00:49:09,846 by his leg and l said: ''Cut it, cut it out! Cut it out!'' 586 00:49:10,057 --> 00:49:11,285 and she replied: ''take it easy, l do it every day''. Then l said: 587 00:49:11,492 --> 00:49:15,053 ''But he has never. l don't care if you do this twenty times a day, 588 00:49:15,262 --> 00:49:17,856 my son has just been born, and he is mine and unique. 589 00:49:18,065 --> 00:49:19,464 He has never been grabbed like a chicken by his feet 590 00:49:19,667 --> 00:49:22,534 or anywhere else because he was in a bag of water, so let me do it.'' 591 00:49:22,870 --> 00:49:26,237 As pediatricians, many of us were trained as routine procedure 592 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,738 to suction the baby's mouth so they can breathe more easily 593 00:49:28,943 --> 00:49:32,401 as soon as they are born. lf any of us, at an adult age, 594 00:49:32,613 --> 00:49:35,980 are subject to mouth suction, we will vomit, 595 00:49:36,183 --> 00:49:39,619 it will be painful and we will possibly feel discomfort 596 00:49:39,820 --> 00:49:43,051 if we need to eat anything right after. Nevertheless, 597 00:49:43,257 --> 00:49:46,226 we are trained to do this to all newborn. 598 00:49:46,427 --> 00:49:49,225 When it is an unnecessary procedure, babies may perceive this 599 00:49:49,430 --> 00:49:55,266 as an intense aggression at their birth. 600 00:49:56,070 --> 00:50:00,370 A lot of dreadful mistakes that we see, 601 00:50:00,574 --> 00:50:03,065 but the kid comes out alive, so everybody... 602 00:50:03,544 --> 00:50:04,772 and it seems that the doctor performed a miracle. 603 00:50:04,979 --> 00:50:06,446 Sorry, folks, the woman was the one who gave birth, 604 00:50:06,647 --> 00:50:08,581 and God is backing her up. 605 00:50:09,550 --> 00:50:12,519 SURVlVlNG lSN'T ENOUGH 606 00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:15,211 Unlike everyone's belief, birth will mark the child's life, right? 607 00:50:15,422 --> 00:50:17,686 He was born naturally? What difference does it make?'' they ask. 608 00:50:17,892 --> 00:50:21,020 ln fact, it makes a huge difference. 609 00:50:21,328 --> 00:50:23,091 The idea is not the baby surviving being born 610 00:50:23,297 --> 00:50:27,996 and the mother surviving childbirth. Our goal is the quality involved. 611 00:50:28,202 --> 00:50:30,363 The idea is to have tenderness during every aspect, 612 00:50:30,571 --> 00:50:33,438 in every moment of labor and childbirth and during 613 00:50:33,641 --> 00:50:39,307 the baby's first hours of life. We don't want survivors. 614 00:50:39,613 --> 00:50:43,743 We want well-received people, and respect all the time. 615 00:50:43,951 --> 00:50:45,919 lt is more like handcraft, you know? 616 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:48,281 You just don't take your wife into something 617 00:50:48,489 --> 00:50:52,255 that's sort of delivery mass production, in which your child 618 00:50:52,459 --> 00:50:55,223 is going to be born on a day that's suitable in the agenda. 619 00:50:55,429 --> 00:50:56,726 They will give you an excuse, he will be born, 620 00:50:56,931 --> 00:50:58,421 you will take him home and you'll be happy. 621 00:50:59,767 --> 00:51:03,259 But the fact is that the child who had the opportunity 622 00:51:03,604 --> 00:51:05,731 of a natural childbirth will have benefits. 623 00:51:05,940 --> 00:51:08,067 What l find very funny in the whole process 624 00:51:08,275 --> 00:51:12,143 is the rationale behind of what people think, even family: 625 00:51:12,346 --> 00:51:15,907 ''but they were born well, healthy, doctors fulfilled their roles 626 00:51:16,116 --> 00:51:20,450 bringing them healthy.'' And l replied: 627 00:51:20,654 --> 00:51:23,054 ''No, it was l who brought her healthy.'' l mean, 628 00:51:23,257 --> 00:51:26,420 l am very grateful for the doctors, but l think the story could be 629 00:51:26,627 --> 00:51:32,088 much more beautiful, everything could have been much richer 630 00:51:32,299 --> 00:51:36,395 for me as a woman, for me as a mother, isn't it? 631 00:51:36,603 --> 00:51:40,061 So yeah, frustrating, very frustrating. 632 00:51:42,810 --> 00:51:45,870 l still want to cry. lt's not right! 633 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:47,479 What l've been through doesn't feel right 634 00:51:47,681 --> 00:51:50,013 and other mothers had the same experience. 635 00:51:50,217 --> 00:51:53,209 lt should've been a very beautiful, a very different moment 636 00:51:53,420 --> 00:51:55,650 from what it really was. l feel sorrow, 637 00:51:55,856 --> 00:52:00,589 l'm angry and l'm even afraid of how my next pregnancy is going to be. 638 00:52:12,206 --> 00:52:17,473 Right after Pedro was born, l started studying, right? 639 00:52:17,678 --> 00:52:19,737 l should have studied before. Then l started studying 640 00:52:19,947 --> 00:52:24,543 the history of childbirth and l said, hey, so now l will give birth 641 00:52:24,752 --> 00:52:29,621 to Nina naturally. But the problem, l mean, the doctors said 642 00:52:29,823 --> 00:52:34,726 that the C-section had been very recent. l know that nowadays 643 00:52:34,928 --> 00:52:37,453 it is a common strategy, let's put it this way: 644 00:52:37,664 --> 00:52:40,997 ''once a C-section, always a C-section.'' And l said: 645 00:52:41,201 --> 00:52:45,501 ''l'm not going through my whole life without giving birth naturally. 646 00:52:48,275 --> 00:52:51,108 l can't deprive myself of having that experience!'' 647 00:52:52,479 --> 00:52:56,245 And it was great, it was great, it was this overwhelming experience, 648 00:52:56,450 --> 00:53:02,320 and then Nina came. l was in labor for 1 2 hours, 649 00:53:03,023 --> 00:53:08,222 it was an amazing experience and l felt l could leave this world happily, 650 00:53:08,429 --> 00:53:13,628 because l gave birth naturally. l felt like l did it along with Nina. 651 00:53:13,834 --> 00:53:15,597 lt was our thing. 652 00:53:24,645 --> 00:53:27,671 LABOR AND DELlVERY 653 00:53:28,782 --> 00:53:32,115 First and foremost, going into natural labor means that the baby 654 00:53:32,319 --> 00:53:33,650 is ready to be born. 655 00:53:33,854 --> 00:53:38,291 But what exactly makes a baby be born on the 4th or on the 28th 656 00:53:38,492 --> 00:53:43,327 or on the 1 0th? We don't know. But when it happens at term, 657 00:53:43,530 --> 00:53:48,763 that's the best choice that the baby herself made. 658 00:53:49,203 --> 00:53:52,195 That's where the importance of labor lies. 659 00:53:52,606 --> 00:53:57,600 During labor, several physiological changes occur, 660 00:53:57,811 --> 00:54:02,646 which provide the baby with better adaptation as soon as she is born. 661 00:54:02,850 --> 00:54:07,344 Evidence shows that labor triggers hormonal discharges 662 00:54:07,554 --> 00:54:13,322 which help the baby mature and which send her messages telling her: 663 00:54:13,527 --> 00:54:17,486 ''it's time to be born, get your systems ready''. 664 00:54:18,499 --> 00:54:21,525 A child that is born after labor, even by C-section, 665 00:54:21,735 --> 00:54:27,605 will be under better conditions than those one who were taken out 666 00:54:27,808 --> 00:54:30,333 of the uterus during sleep. They were there, 667 00:54:30,544 --> 00:54:32,910 sleeping like babies, literally, inside the womb, and suddenly 668 00:54:33,113 --> 00:54:34,478 you pull them out and say: ''You're outside now.'' 669 00:54:34,848 --> 00:54:38,375 So we are talking about short-term benefits, 670 00:54:38,585 --> 00:54:42,919 but there are several other long-term ones 671 00:54:43,123 --> 00:54:45,023 that will last during the baby's entire life, 672 00:54:45,225 --> 00:54:47,693 when she is already an infant and when she further develops. 673 00:54:47,895 --> 00:54:51,922 Labor plays a fundamental role in birth. 674 00:54:52,166 --> 00:54:56,626 Regarding safety, which is obviously a very important concern 675 00:54:56,837 --> 00:54:59,397 to the mother, labor is much safer. 676 00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,575 lt involves respecting physiological birth conditions, 677 00:55:02,776 --> 00:55:07,440 in spite of other varieties, such as: ''Be here tomorrow at 4, 678 00:55:07,648 --> 00:55:11,982 check in and your baby will be born at 5.'' 679 00:55:12,252 --> 00:55:13,617 However, we haven't agreed with the baby. 680 00:55:25,365 --> 00:55:27,595 When l decided to be a mother, l also decided what kind 681 00:55:27,801 --> 00:55:31,567 of birth l wanted. l wanted a natural childbirth experience. 682 00:55:32,039 --> 00:55:36,999 lt was not at all easy as it took 8 hours and the pain was intense. 683 00:55:37,511 --> 00:55:44,041 MOTHER AND BUSlNESSWOMAN The way we conducted my labor didn't make me think 684 00:55:44,251 --> 00:55:48,381 about giving up birth at all. We used palliative pain management 685 00:55:48,589 --> 00:55:50,921 during the process, such as acupuncture, massage. 686 00:55:51,124 --> 00:55:55,288 l spent the whole labor along with my doula and my husband only, 687 00:55:55,495 --> 00:55:58,157 which was fundamental. We dimmed the lights, 688 00:55:58,365 --> 00:56:01,198 we listened to music, l managed to concentrate myself 689 00:56:01,401 --> 00:56:05,201 on what l was doing. l had this strong connection with my body. 690 00:56:06,206 --> 00:56:07,696 ln the end l found everything was very beautiful. 691 00:56:07,908 --> 00:56:14,040 l think natural childbirth is great poetry, it is very poetic 692 00:56:14,248 --> 00:56:20,084 when you allow your instinct and your body to work on its behalf. 693 00:56:28,462 --> 00:56:33,661 When a woman experiences uterine contractions and receives the 694 00:56:33,867 --> 00:56:37,598 ''hormonal cocktail'', establishing the bond with the newborn 695 00:56:37,804 --> 00:56:42,104 is much easier. Women recover physically much faster 696 00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:44,573 from a natural childbirth, they bleed less, 697 00:56:44,778 --> 00:56:49,078 so anemia is unlikely, and there is less risk of infection. 698 00:56:49,349 --> 00:56:53,877 Even high-risk pregnancy, in general, 699 00:56:54,021 --> 00:56:58,424 will benefit from normal birth. 700 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:03,025 When l pictured myself pregnant... l have three girls. 701 00:57:03,230 --> 00:57:06,495 l've always wanted to be a mother, have always considered normal birth. 702 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:11,760 l had this instinct that this would be better and much more pleasant 703 00:57:11,972 --> 00:57:15,032 and that it would complete me. Before birth, 704 00:57:15,242 --> 00:57:19,008 OB-GYN it was kind of a challenge too, because l heard in the hospital 705 00:57:19,212 --> 00:57:24,775 l worked for that it had been 1 0 years since a physician gave birth naturally. 706 00:57:24,985 --> 00:57:28,546 That was another bit of a challenge for me: 707 00:57:28,755 --> 00:57:32,748 ''So, now you are all going to see a doctor giving birth''. 708 00:57:33,093 --> 00:57:35,926 Of course l felt very powerful afterwards. 709 00:57:36,129 --> 00:57:42,557 That's very interesting because today l am an OB-Gyn, 710 00:57:42,769 --> 00:57:47,934 so l'm a role model for my patients; l lead by example, right? 711 00:57:48,141 --> 00:57:52,305 So it's like: Do as l say, but l did it too. 712 00:57:52,512 --> 00:57:57,142 l really believe in what l'm offering them. 713 00:57:59,086 --> 00:58:01,554 LABOR PAlN 714 00:58:02,489 --> 00:58:06,357 For us, women from western Judeo-Christian civilization, 715 00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,929 that biblical saying ''with pain will you give birth to children'', 716 00:58:11,298 --> 00:58:13,698 there's a great impact. lt is as if becoming a mother 717 00:58:13,900 --> 00:58:15,367 were intrinsically connected to suffering. 718 00:58:15,569 --> 00:58:21,098 And the media such as TV and the movies contribute to enhance this idea, 719 00:58:21,308 --> 00:58:25,142 showing women in labor groaning and writhing in pain. 720 00:58:26,046 --> 00:58:29,140 Of course most women will really experience pain during labor, 721 00:58:29,349 --> 00:58:33,843 but testimonies reveal that most of the complaints are about 722 00:58:34,054 --> 00:58:39,822 the emotional abuse they've suffered and about unnecessary interventions, 723 00:58:40,026 --> 00:58:41,391 not about childbirth itself. 724 00:58:45,632 --> 00:58:48,157 Childbirth is like mountain climbing. 725 00:58:48,802 --> 00:58:50,827 You have to carry a backpack. 726 00:58:51,037 --> 00:58:53,835 Prenatal care is packing; it is the preparation 727 00:58:53,974 --> 00:58:58,206 of what you should be taking with you. 728 00:58:58,412 --> 00:58:59,970 lt's the assurance of a low risk pregnancy and that everything is fine. 729 00:59:00,180 --> 00:59:03,013 Probably, when you reach half the way, almost at the end of the hiking, 730 00:59:03,216 --> 00:59:05,116 you will get cramps and think you can not take it any longer 731 00:59:05,318 --> 00:59:08,947 and that you'll have to stop. Then you stop, breathe and think: 732 00:59:09,156 --> 00:59:12,956 ''Wait a minute! lf l was able to get to this point, l can go further.'' 733 00:59:13,293 --> 00:59:18,492 That's the beauty of it! lt's the possibility of transcending limits, 734 00:59:18,698 --> 00:59:21,496 no matter what they are: tiredness, pain, sleepiness, 735 00:59:21,701 --> 00:59:24,101 hunger, it's the willingness to solve it all. 736 00:59:24,304 --> 00:59:27,432 So you connect with your inner self and say: 737 00:59:27,641 --> 00:59:30,109 ''No, come on, l can handle it!'' Then you go ahead. 738 00:59:30,310 --> 00:59:34,679 And when you get to the top of the mountain and see the view, 739 00:59:34,881 --> 00:59:37,042 you'll understand that it is totally different from getting there 740 00:59:37,250 --> 00:59:40,151 by helicopter. You did it yourself. 741 01:00:05,412 --> 01:00:10,111 Pain and suffering are not related at all. 742 01:00:10,317 --> 01:00:11,944 This is something very important. 743 01:00:12,152 --> 01:00:15,519 The possible painful uterine contraction during labor 744 01:00:15,722 --> 01:00:17,314 lasts one minute. After one minute, 745 01:00:17,524 --> 01:00:21,961 you'll have 3 minutes, 4 minutes, 5 minutes of total relaxation. 746 01:00:22,162 --> 01:00:24,562 There are women that fall asleep between contractions. 747 01:00:33,707 --> 01:00:36,437 Birth is not only a physiological act that begins 748 01:00:36,643 --> 01:00:38,611 with the uterine contractions and ends with the baby 749 01:00:38,812 --> 01:00:40,871 and the placenta being born. After all, 750 01:00:41,081 --> 01:00:45,484 birth is a true rite of passage not only for the mother, 751 01:00:45,685 --> 01:00:47,710 but also for the entire family and for the baby, 752 01:00:47,921 --> 01:00:49,855 who has an active role in this experience, 753 01:00:50,056 --> 01:00:51,284 and comes out stronger from it. 754 01:00:51,491 --> 01:00:54,551 People think that childbearing is exclusively a body experience. 755 01:00:54,761 --> 01:00:58,322 A process of a baby descending through the birth canal 756 01:00:58,532 --> 01:01:00,363 and coming out. Just the physical aspect. 757 01:01:00,567 --> 01:01:02,762 But l've spent many years attending births 758 01:01:02,969 --> 01:01:08,305 and l see that birth is her soul expressing itself through her body. 759 01:01:08,608 --> 01:01:11,372 Given the right conditions, birth can be 760 01:01:11,578 --> 01:01:15,207 the most transcendental moment in the life of a woman and her family, 761 01:01:15,482 --> 01:01:19,384 from all points of view: physical, emotional, spiritual, sexual... 762 01:01:49,015 --> 01:01:53,543 lf l could give birth, l would. Why would a mother give up 763 01:01:53,753 --> 01:01:59,385 on her so special and magical moment and be sedated? 764 01:02:00,293 --> 01:02:03,456 There is a complete lack of common sense in the world, 765 01:02:03,663 --> 01:02:06,223 as if the people were going to consume, consume, consume. 766 01:02:06,833 --> 01:02:09,631 lt is such nonsense that we use drugs, 767 01:02:09,903 --> 01:02:14,897 we go to amusement parks to feel some intensity, isn't it? 768 01:02:15,108 --> 01:02:18,908 Or when we go through a tragic moment 769 01:02:19,112 --> 01:02:23,674 we can feel life is strong. 770 01:02:24,351 --> 01:02:29,448 But it is about a moment in our lives that is not tragic, 771 01:02:29,656 --> 01:02:32,523 it's a gift. 772 01:02:36,363 --> 01:02:40,993 We celebrate weddings that won't last a year, 773 01:02:41,201 --> 01:02:45,297 we sometimes spend a fortune and take years to prepare ourselves 774 01:02:45,505 --> 01:02:51,171 for some artificial and so meaningless events! 775 01:02:51,378 --> 01:02:57,544 And labor and birth alone naturally provide us a situation 776 01:02:57,751 --> 01:03:01,243 that empowers, 777 01:03:01,454 --> 01:03:06,983 fortifies, feeds us, shapes us. 778 01:03:07,193 --> 01:03:11,129 So when l see that we have 52�/� of C-sections in Brazil, 779 01:03:11,331 --> 01:03:14,323 l look and l say: ''We have been losing opportunities.'' 780 01:03:15,368 --> 01:03:18,132 HUMANlZED LABOR AND DELlVERY 781 01:04:48,928 --> 01:04:52,420 Doulas are birth attendants, but they are trained ones. 782 01:04:52,632 --> 01:04:55,601 They don't perform medical nor midwifery procedures, 783 01:04:55,802 --> 01:05:02,071 they don't replace the partner, they have another kind of look. 784 01:05:02,275 --> 01:05:05,108 They have a professional look over childbirth, 785 01:05:05,311 --> 01:05:08,872 even without performing procedures. During prenatal care, 786 01:05:09,082 --> 01:05:12,381 they help women make their birth plan, they inform 787 01:05:12,585 --> 01:05:15,918 and show sources of good evidence-based information 788 01:05:16,122 --> 01:05:18,818 so that these women may research and write their own birth plan. 789 01:05:51,925 --> 01:05:56,589 When we don't separate mother and baby and let them look 790 01:05:56,796 --> 01:06:00,061 into each other's eyes... lt is the most powerful antidote 791 01:06:00,266 --> 01:06:03,963 against any kind of baby blues or postpartum depression. 792 01:06:05,038 --> 01:06:08,474 Why do we separate a baby from her mother at birth? 793 01:06:11,711 --> 01:06:15,511 The baby came from inside the mother's body, under 95 or 96 �F, 794 01:06:15,715 --> 01:06:18,582 and she shouldn't be received at 64,4 �F or 68 �F, 795 01:06:18,785 --> 01:06:21,845 the temperature inside an OR. 796 01:06:22,388 --> 01:06:26,256 The baby should be received in a warm and dark environment, 797 01:06:26,459 --> 01:06:30,987 with the least possible sensory stimuli. Stimuli attack the baby. 798 01:06:31,197 --> 01:06:34,189 And l can check everything l need, for instance, 799 01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,267 check Apgar score when she is still in mother's arms. 800 01:06:39,138 --> 01:06:44,132 l don't need to give her a bath, l don't need to remove vernix, 801 01:06:44,344 --> 01:06:46,710 which is very important for her protection. 802 01:06:46,913 --> 01:06:51,714 That is true also for a birth scenario when the baby is not fully adapted, 803 01:06:51,918 --> 01:06:55,081 because she is premature or when there are breathing problems. 804 01:06:55,288 --> 01:06:58,985 The more l delay chord clamping and separate her from her mother, 805 01:06:59,192 --> 01:07:01,387 the better. 806 01:07:03,696 --> 01:07:05,926 That's a major challenge for us all. 807 01:07:07,066 --> 01:07:07,100 We will only truly humanize childbirth if we return 808 01:07:07,100 --> 01:07:11,059 We will only truly humanize childbirth if we return 809 01:07:11,271 --> 01:07:16,106 to women full over their destiny and birth. 810 01:07:16,609 --> 01:07:21,103 The three fundamental pillars of birth humanization therefore are: 811 01:07:21,314 --> 01:07:24,715 firstly, handing protagonism back to women, 812 01:07:24,918 --> 01:07:28,081 which is fundamental; secondly, provide a broader, 813 01:07:28,288 --> 01:07:30,688 integrative view of the phenomenon, not merely from 814 01:07:30,890 --> 01:07:32,949 a mechanical and physiological point-of-view 815 01:07:33,159 --> 01:07:38,256 but also including psychological, affective, emotional, spiritual, 816 01:07:38,464 --> 01:07:42,059 cultural and in context with where the birth is to take place. 817 01:07:42,268 --> 01:07:47,763 And last but not least, a profound bond with evidence-based medicine. 818 01:07:48,541 --> 01:07:51,567 Everything that is nowadays said about humanizing childbirth 819 01:07:51,778 --> 01:07:57,978 is based on the most modern research on labor and childbirth procedures. 820 01:09:46,092 --> 01:09:52,520 ln Brazil, most births, around 90�/�, are attended by doctors. 821 01:09:53,099 --> 01:09:59,527 There is evidence that births can be attended by other professionals. 822 01:10:00,273 --> 01:10:04,141 This is the standard model of care in many other countries. 823 01:10:49,689 --> 01:10:52,487 The World Health Organization considers the following 824 01:10:52,692 --> 01:10:57,186 as licensed professionals to attend births: OB/GYNs, 825 01:10:57,797 --> 01:11:04,464 family doctors, nurse-midwives and certified professional midwives. 826 01:11:04,871 --> 01:11:08,671 Those attending births in hospitals who are called ''parteiras'', they are 827 01:11:08,875 --> 01:11:11,639 in fact, nurse-midwives or certified professional midwives (CPMs). 828 01:11:11,844 --> 01:11:14,836 The latter are new to the Brazilian market. 829 01:11:15,047 --> 01:11:19,040 This model that we have in Brazil to certify the CPMs, 830 01:11:19,252 --> 01:11:21,186 it is based on an international model. 831 01:11:21,387 --> 01:11:24,185 lt is based on the risk assessment throughout pregnancy. 832 01:11:24,390 --> 01:11:27,951 Every prenatal appointment we assess anything 833 01:11:28,161 --> 01:11:31,688 that can be considered out of the ordinary. 834 01:11:32,365 --> 01:11:36,426 lf she has anything abnormal show up at any moment, 835 01:11:36,702 --> 01:11:42,572 l must have her referred 836 01:11:42,775 --> 01:11:46,438 so she can have more specialized healthcare. 837 01:11:46,646 --> 01:11:51,106 As long as she remains low-risk, l can continue her care. 838 01:11:59,792 --> 01:12:01,919 What is the evidence available? 839 01:12:02,128 --> 01:12:05,791 There is also this systematic review published in 2008 840 01:12:06,032 --> 01:12:10,901 which shows that midwife-led models of care 841 01:12:11,103 --> 01:12:14,504 have several advantages 842 01:12:14,707 --> 01:12:19,007 over the traditional medical-led models 843 01:12:19,212 --> 01:12:21,806 for low-risk mothers. 844 01:12:22,615 --> 01:12:26,642 We dream of being able to comprehend this 845 01:12:26,852 --> 01:12:29,412 and especially understand that in the Brazilian scene, 846 01:12:29,622 --> 01:12:31,920 we have room for everybody. 847 01:12:32,225 --> 01:12:37,492 What we don't have room is for a completely medicalized birth, 848 01:12:37,697 --> 01:12:40,131 that doesn't treat the mother as an individual 849 01:12:40,333 --> 01:12:43,564 and only involves protocols, as if protocols 850 01:12:43,769 --> 01:12:49,002 could handle peculiar situations, so delicate and unique 851 01:12:49,208 --> 01:12:50,971 as the birth process. 852 01:13:02,054 --> 01:13:08,391 Nowadays, most births happen in hospitals and we know that 853 01:13:08,594 --> 01:13:14,328 for a low risk birth, the hospital environment is not conducive 854 01:13:14,533 --> 01:13:19,232 to having the mother feel competent 855 01:13:19,438 --> 01:13:22,407 and feeling capable at that moment. 856 01:13:23,409 --> 01:13:25,536 lt's not just about having a vaginal childbirth. 857 01:13:25,745 --> 01:13:28,578 l have assisted so many deliveries where women gave birth 858 01:13:28,781 --> 01:13:34,549 in extraordinary ways. lf she needs to walk like a beast, 859 01:13:34,754 --> 01:13:38,053 around a tree like this, to enter this birth energy, 860 01:13:38,257 --> 01:13:41,693 she must do it, she must be given the possibility. 861 01:13:41,894 --> 01:13:47,332 lf she needs 3 days to give birth, my God, she must have those 3 days. 862 01:13:52,104 --> 01:13:54,698 And the most adequate place for a woman to give birth, 863 01:13:54,907 --> 01:13:56,807 according to the World Health Organization, 864 01:13:57,009 --> 01:13:59,273 is a place where she feels safe. 865 01:13:59,478 --> 01:14:02,709 Some women will feel safer in the warmth of their homes. 866 01:14:03,015 --> 01:14:06,280 Others will prefer to have their babies in birth centers, 867 01:14:06,485 --> 01:14:09,579 in their neighborhoods, nearby people they know. 868 01:14:09,889 --> 01:14:13,256 Some other women will choose to give birth in hospitals 869 01:14:13,459 --> 01:14:15,984 because there is where they feel safest, closer to technology. 870 01:14:16,195 --> 01:14:19,562 The health system should offer all these alternatives to women, 871 01:14:19,765 --> 01:14:23,701 so that they can adapt themselves to what they feel is best. 872 01:14:45,991 --> 01:14:50,553 When l got pregnant with Felipe, l said, hey, l had a C-section, 873 01:14:50,763 --> 01:14:54,255 a hospital birth, now this is what l need; 874 01:14:54,467 --> 01:14:56,094 l am going to birth Felipe at home. 875 01:14:56,902 --> 01:15:00,497 And then it was like this, widespread concern. 876 01:15:01,307 --> 01:15:04,435 But after seeing and understanding and studying, 877 01:15:04,643 --> 01:15:06,736 especially because l only agreed to it after having understood 878 01:15:06,946 --> 01:15:11,315 and after having had access to literature, not the literature 879 01:15:11,517 --> 01:15:14,918 that there is nowadays, the kind of literature that we buy, 880 01:15:15,121 --> 01:15:16,986 imposed on you and written to speak evil about it. 881 01:15:18,023 --> 01:15:21,117 lt was so cool. We stayed in bed, 882 01:15:21,327 --> 01:15:26,697 in our room, watching movies, massaging, such a great energy. 883 01:15:27,099 --> 01:15:29,329 Then we took a walk around here in the living room 884 01:15:29,535 --> 01:15:31,366 because the pains were coming, it is something 885 01:15:31,570 --> 01:15:33,663 that you have to go through but l don't regret it, 886 01:15:33,873 --> 01:15:36,239 l would do it all over again! And it happened at night, 887 01:15:36,442 --> 01:15:38,569 the house was in silence, it was good, 888 01:15:38,778 --> 01:15:43,408 we were in peace and then finally Felipinho decided to come out. 889 01:15:43,949 --> 01:15:47,248 And l could realize that it was much simpler than anything else. 890 01:15:47,453 --> 01:15:50,354 As simple as that, my son was born in my hands, 891 01:15:50,589 --> 01:15:54,855 the water didn't break, he was born in the caul, right, l opened it. 892 01:15:55,561 --> 01:15:58,223 Oh, it was so... 893 01:16:00,933 --> 01:16:02,798 it even makes me want to have another one, you know? 894 01:16:04,270 --> 01:16:07,706 lt was such a beautiful experience and the coolest part of all 895 01:16:07,907 --> 01:16:10,239 was that Felipinho came directly to my chest, 896 01:16:10,443 --> 01:16:12,604 and remained there nursing for two hours. 897 01:16:13,979 --> 01:16:15,241 And in the morning my kids got there and 898 01:16:15,448 --> 01:16:17,313 ''Can we visit Felipe? ls Felipe already there?'' 899 01:16:17,516 --> 01:16:21,145 And they entered our room, and the kid was on our bed. 900 01:16:22,555 --> 01:16:24,022 lt was incredible! And l remember 901 01:16:24,223 --> 01:16:25,588 when l was in the maternity hospital walking back and forth 902 01:16:25,791 --> 01:16:27,019 without having any access, or when l did, 903 01:16:27,226 --> 01:16:28,887 l could only see... whatever! 904 01:16:29,862 --> 01:16:34,060 Nothing compares to the emotion of you being able 905 01:16:34,266 --> 01:16:40,501 to live this moment as it should be, with touch, with her, 906 01:16:40,706 --> 01:16:47,373 with her warmth, with her voice, with all the suffering that comes, 907 01:16:47,580 --> 01:16:50,515 because it is not easy for the woman to really go through that 908 01:16:50,716 --> 01:16:52,741 without anesthesia, but what Andrea earned 909 01:16:52,952 --> 01:16:54,544 after having gone through that, just as everyone 910 01:16:54,753 --> 01:16:59,850 l believe goes through such a moment, earns a lot. 911 01:17:01,393 --> 01:17:06,194 l felt very capable, l felt strong, you know? 912 01:17:06,398 --> 01:17:12,769 A lioness, a mother who did her best for her son. 913 01:17:56,001 --> 01:17:59,698 Planned homebirths exist worldwide. 914 01:17:59,905 --> 01:18:02,169 We have it in Holland, we have it in England, in Japan, 915 01:18:02,374 --> 01:18:07,004 Canada, Australia, New Zealand, there are different homebirth models. 916 01:18:25,164 --> 01:18:30,033 ln Brazil, there are two homebirth models that coexist in different ways. 917 01:18:30,235 --> 01:18:33,068 One of them is the traditional midwife model 918 01:18:33,272 --> 01:18:36,207 in North and Northeast Brazil, which exists in great quantity. 919 01:18:36,708 --> 01:18:40,200 Very often, that woman doesn't have access to health care services, 920 01:18:40,412 --> 01:18:43,711 which is a paradox: sometimes they need a C-section 921 01:18:43,916 --> 01:18:45,611 and they don't have access to it because it might take two days 922 01:18:45,818 --> 01:18:47,183 to get there by boat. 923 01:18:47,386 --> 01:18:49,946 l started catching babies in the rural area. 924 01:18:50,155 --> 01:18:52,623 There were times l would even go by donkey or horse. 925 01:18:52,825 --> 01:18:55,350 TRADlTlONAL MlDWlFE Women would call me and l would go. 926 01:18:55,727 --> 01:18:59,322 l delivered my sisters too, helped my mother. 927 01:18:59,665 --> 01:19:03,101 When the TBA arrived, l was catching my sister and then l started. 928 01:19:03,302 --> 01:19:05,037 l already delivered in a carriage, on the ground, 929 01:19:05,037 --> 01:19:08,700 l already delivered in a carriage, on the ground, 930 01:19:08,907 --> 01:19:12,968 in the bush, under a tree, on a banana leaf. 931 01:19:13,212 --> 01:19:17,808 There was a hospital, but their conditions were harsh 932 01:19:18,016 --> 01:19:21,042 to get to the hospital. Because for us, 933 01:19:21,253 --> 01:19:24,086 who live in rural areas, we don't have a car, 934 01:19:24,289 --> 01:19:28,851 there's no way to get to the hospital, so they preferred to call the TBA 935 01:19:29,061 --> 01:19:31,495 to have their babies at home. 936 01:19:32,030 --> 01:19:35,329 PLANNED HOME BlRTH 937 01:19:35,968 --> 01:19:39,062 And there is another movement, which is growing a lot, 938 01:19:39,271 --> 01:19:41,739 which is homebirth in urban centers. 939 01:19:41,940 --> 01:19:46,343 Homebirth can be assisted by a nurse-midwife or a certified midwife, 940 01:19:46,545 --> 01:19:50,072 or in some cases, even by doctors who work according to this model. 941 01:19:50,282 --> 01:19:52,682 Homebirth is for a low-risk woman, a woman who didn't have 942 01:19:52,885 --> 01:19:56,548 any complication during pregnancy. We go well-equipped, 943 01:19:56,755 --> 01:20:01,692 with a set of materials for attending a birth in normal conditions 944 01:20:01,894 --> 01:20:07,491 such as gloves, gauze, things that we are going to need to assist; 945 01:20:07,699 --> 01:20:10,725 and also for more complex situations. 946 01:20:10,936 --> 01:20:13,837 So if l need to give stitches, l have stitching thread, 947 01:20:14,039 --> 01:20:15,563 l can apply local anesthesia, 948 01:20:15,807 --> 01:20:19,334 l can use some kind of medication for hemorrhage, 949 01:20:19,545 --> 01:20:21,103 l have things at my disposal. 950 01:20:21,313 --> 01:20:24,373 l have oxygen if the baby needs it, all neonatal material for resuscitation. 951 01:20:24,583 --> 01:20:28,781 l have a trunk full of things to give assistance to the woman. 952 01:20:30,355 --> 01:20:34,724 What we have today at our disposal, for us to understand homebirths, 953 01:20:34,927 --> 01:20:39,091 are retrospective studies, in which we study a group of women 954 01:20:39,298 --> 01:20:41,596 who have already gave birth at home or in a hospital; 955 01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:44,462 and prospective studies, in which we study a group of women 956 01:20:44,670 --> 01:20:46,433 that will have a baby at home or in a hospital, 957 01:20:46,638 --> 01:20:48,367 and then compare results. And there so many studies 958 01:20:48,574 --> 01:20:50,872 conducted abroad with a huge number of women, 959 01:20:51,076 --> 01:20:54,773 which tells that homebirth is pretty safe, as safe as a hospital birth. 960 01:20:54,980 --> 01:20:59,314 A Dutch study published in 2009 with more than 500 thousand 961 01:20:59,518 --> 01:21:03,477 childbirths demonstrates the safety of planned home birth, 962 01:21:03,956 --> 01:21:09,826 in terms of perinatal outcomes very similar to those 963 01:21:10,028 --> 01:21:14,863 in low-risk planned hospital birth and 964 01:21:15,067 --> 01:21:18,935 with much reduced number of medical interventions. 965 01:21:19,605 --> 01:21:20,833 ln a domestic environment, for instance, 966 01:21:21,039 --> 01:21:25,305 there are all bacteria from that environment which are favorable 967 01:21:25,510 --> 01:21:27,410 to mothers. They are mother's friends. 968 01:21:27,613 --> 01:21:31,049 One would never have an infection in a domestic environment 969 01:21:31,250 --> 01:21:34,048 as one would in a hospital. 970 01:21:34,419 --> 01:21:39,083 ln health care scenario, there is the possibility 971 01:21:39,291 --> 01:21:44,319 of anticipating any event in the point of view of prevention. 972 01:21:44,529 --> 01:21:48,863 Trained care providers, such as the midwife, 973 01:21:49,067 --> 01:21:53,800 nurse-midwife or even a doctor, 974 01:21:53,972 --> 01:21:57,703 are able to gather information 975 01:21:57,909 --> 01:22:02,903 and decide whether it can be a homebirth or not. 976 01:22:03,582 --> 01:22:07,450 What in fact makes difference is prenatal care to identify risks 977 01:22:07,653 --> 01:22:11,555 because risks also exist inside the hospital. 978 01:22:12,724 --> 01:22:14,214 When we think in terms of home birth, 979 01:22:14,426 --> 01:22:16,360 it is not that the baby will have to be born at home 980 01:22:16,561 --> 01:22:18,392 because she planned it that way. 981 01:22:18,597 --> 01:22:21,464 The woman in labor stays at home as long as everything 982 01:22:21,667 --> 01:22:24,158 is going according to plan and everything is absolutely normal. 983 01:22:24,369 --> 01:22:28,601 lf we suspect that maybe there's something not normal, 984 01:22:28,807 --> 01:22:31,298 we head to the hospital and the birth will end at the hospital. 985 01:22:31,510 --> 01:22:34,274 And most of them still end up being a normal birth, 986 01:22:34,746 --> 01:22:37,772 but with some intervention that we cannot perform at home, 987 01:22:37,983 --> 01:22:40,884 because each intervention adds risk to childbirth. 988 01:22:41,119 --> 01:22:44,680 Every woman will feel safer in a different environment 989 01:22:44,890 --> 01:22:48,826 and many times the place she will feel safer is a hospital. 990 01:22:49,127 --> 01:22:51,960 Therefore we know that homebirth is maybe for a small share 991 01:22:52,164 --> 01:22:56,863 of the population. Our minds still work very attached 992 01:22:57,069 --> 01:23:00,937 to the hospital model of care. l think that most important 993 01:23:01,139 --> 01:23:07,339 that all women can choose to have a homebirth is that they understand: 994 01:23:07,546 --> 01:23:11,573 ''Wait a minute! lt can happen at home, it's not that complicated after all.'' 995 01:23:29,234 --> 01:23:32,169 SOLUTlONS 996 01:23:33,071 --> 01:23:37,269 There is a set of initiatives that can improve the scenario. 997 01:23:37,642 --> 01:23:41,237 Everything that happens in the capitalist world is determined 998 01:23:41,446 --> 01:23:44,313 by consumer demand. This nice childbirth 999 01:23:44,516 --> 01:23:47,144 is also going to happen due to women demand. 1000 01:23:47,352 --> 01:23:50,344 We have to improve the quality of information for women 1001 01:23:50,555 --> 01:23:52,887 using simple language, in simple leaflets, 1002 01:23:53,091 --> 01:23:54,786 so that they arrive at the hospital and say: 1003 01:23:54,993 --> 01:23:58,190 ''Don't cut me, don't cut me because l know what l'm losing. 1004 01:23:58,964 --> 01:24:01,125 l don't want to be cut, l don't want to be hooked up 1005 01:24:01,333 --> 01:24:03,494 to an l.V., l don't want Pitocin. 1006 01:24:03,735 --> 01:24:06,397 Let's teach everything about childbirth to those who are 1007 01:24:06,605 --> 01:24:09,597 1 4, 1 5, 1 3 years old, the same way they study Geography, 1008 01:24:09,808 --> 01:24:14,438 History, Grammar, Childbirth! That is way more than sexual education, 1009 01:24:14,646 --> 01:24:18,980 that is education for life! Why? Because then when the time 1010 01:24:19,184 --> 01:24:21,448 comes to be pregnant, to give birth, 1011 01:24:21,653 --> 01:24:26,181 there's already a very rich theoretical foundation that is part of that woman. 1012 01:24:27,058 --> 01:24:31,654 lf you only offer her a bad option for birth, full of interventions, 1013 01:24:31,863 --> 01:24:34,593 violent, lying on her back, with her legs spread apart, 1014 01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:38,031 or a scheduled C-section, she has no option, 1015 01:24:38,236 --> 01:24:41,933 she has no choice. Yet, if she can choose everything 1016 01:24:42,140 --> 01:24:45,667 concerning her birth, the birth of her son, 1017 01:24:45,877 --> 01:24:48,107 then you have a wide range of options. 1018 01:24:48,313 --> 01:24:51,976 lf she is aware of her decisions, she will have a good birth, 1019 01:24:52,184 --> 01:24:54,516 regardless of her choices, she will have a good birth. 1020 01:24:55,353 --> 01:25:01,690 Practioners must recognize that they have an ethical commitment 1021 01:25:01,893 --> 01:25:07,092 to doing good, and should abandon what is harmful 1022 01:25:07,299 --> 01:25:09,096 and ineffective. 1023 01:25:09,601 --> 01:25:16,268 Health system managers must have the courage to take measures 1024 01:25:16,475 --> 01:25:21,208 that are unpopular with health professionals 1025 01:25:21,413 --> 01:25:26,544 and take control of C-section indications. 1026 01:25:27,319 --> 01:25:31,016 As long as childbirth care is controlled by doctors, 1027 01:25:31,223 --> 01:25:35,353 it will be very hard for us to reduce the C-section rate; 1028 01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:38,859 the insertion of new players is urgent. 1029 01:25:53,478 --> 01:25:56,174 Playing with nature, in the way we have been with 1030 01:25:56,381 --> 01:26:00,215 too frequent interventions generates much more morbidity 1031 01:26:00,418 --> 01:26:03,683 than solutions to problems. We know what we are doing today 1032 01:26:03,889 --> 01:26:07,017 with the human birth is in many instances an aggression 1033 01:26:07,225 --> 01:26:12,424 to the building process of the human birth, more than 7 million years old, 1034 01:26:12,631 --> 01:26:16,067 and can put our own survival on this planet at risk. 1035 01:26:16,334 --> 01:26:19,531 When there isn't any woman giving birth vaginally, 1036 01:26:19,738 --> 01:26:22,764 due to our society's absolute incompetence in dealing 1037 01:26:22,974 --> 01:26:25,306 with this phenomenon, it may be too late. 1038 01:26:25,810 --> 01:26:29,541 We've had earlier experience of weakening, collapsing societies 1039 01:26:29,748 --> 01:26:33,684 that did not know how to deal with the ecological challenges 1040 01:26:33,885 --> 01:26:34,977 they were submitted to. 1041 01:26:35,186 --> 01:26:38,815 l hope society is not going towards a path of no-return. 1042 01:27:04,115 --> 01:27:08,882 What will it be of our love hormone production system 1043 01:27:09,087 --> 01:27:11,954 if it stops being used and starts being useless? 1044 01:27:12,157 --> 01:27:16,787 What does that mean in terms of civilization? 1045 01:27:40,986 --> 01:27:43,420 l made up my mind: ''my next daughter will be born 1046 01:27:43,622 --> 01:27:48,650 the most natural way possible.'' ''That would not happen again.'' 1047 01:27:49,761 --> 01:27:54,061 l sought for information. l found a wonderful doctor, 1048 01:27:54,265 --> 01:27:58,395 an amazing doula and my family who, in spite of not accepting my idea, 1049 01:27:58,603 --> 01:28:04,838 respected me. And the birth was marvelous, peaceful, at home, 1050 01:28:05,043 --> 01:28:10,504 in the dawn. Rafaela was born in the shower, this shower. 1051 01:28:10,982 --> 01:28:16,614 Birds were singing... She was born 1052 01:28:16,821 --> 01:28:20,655 and came straight to where she should be: my breast... 1053 01:28:21,226 --> 01:28:25,128 and she didn't leave until she fell asleep and went to her father's arms. 1054 01:28:27,666 --> 01:28:33,002 l have never had such a feeling in my whole life! 97428

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