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- Neither law enforcement
nor the law

is designed
to effectively deal with a cult

or a heavily
mind-controlling organization.

- We are hitting dead ends
with the police.

We're hitting dead ends
with the IRS.

Scientology has gotten away
with what it does

with their tax-exempt status.

People were trying to do
the right thing,

and the authorities
aren't listening.

It's maddening.

There's a lack of education
on part

of the government agencies.

They need to know
what they're dealing with here.

- I am the writer of
the textbooks of Scientology.

The aim and goal is to put man
in a mental condition,

uh, where he him...
Can solve his own problems.

- Without any
Scientology organization,

things are not gonna change
on this planet.

- After years of slowly
questioning Scientology...

- Leah Remini
and her very public break

with Scientology...

- Scientology, what they do...

Trying to destroy people,

trying to destroy their
families when they leave,

they create a lot of people

who are willing
to fight against them.

- Scientology takes
tax-free dollars

and ruins people's lives.

- This is not the life
that I want to live.

I wanted to end my life.

- Some people, it takes a year;

some people, it takes ten years
of just peeling that onion

of how you were manipulated
and made to think.

- This season, we really
needed to focus

on the reason
why Scientology is able

to do the things that they do

is because they have
tax-exempt status.

- The people who have

bravely come on
and told their stories

have not told those stories
in vain.

They are having an impact.

- We're presenting our case
to the world,

to the FBI, to the IRS.

- The most important thing
that has to be done

is the persistent telling
of the truth,

and that's what you're doing.

- You have to continue to fight.

You have to continue to fight
for what's right.

In past seasons,
we have shown you

stories of abuse, um,

and the abuse of policies
of Scientology,

and we are constantly asked,

"How does
the Church of Scientology

continue to get away with it?"

Tonight, we're gonna try
to answer that question,

because it really is
about their tax-exempt status.

- I feel safe in stating
that if you were to take

all our previous external wins,

those over
the last four decades,

and combine them all into one,

they wouldn't even approach
the magnitude

of what I'll announce tonight.

Tonight, what we're going
to talk about

is the war to end all wars.

- Today, we're talking
to Professor Jay Wexler,

from Boston University,
who is, uh,

an expert in church-state law.

He's written a couple of books
about it

and has graciously agreed
to help us and the audience

understand some of these issues
vis-a-vis Scientology

and its tax-exempt status.

- A lot of our viewers say,
"I don't understand

"how they continue
to have tax-exempt status,

how they continue to get away
with the abuses,"

the amount of money
that they're amassing

through what we're
claiming is fraud.

- Quite remarkable, uh, story.

For decades, the IRS treated
Scientology as not tax-exempt.

You know, I think it's important

for everybody to understand that

being a religion or being
a church is necessary

to get tax-exempt status,
but it's not sufficient.

What my understanding
is that the IRS thought

the profits
of the Church of Scientology

went to a private individual,

which is not allowed
under the tax code.

- That was specifically
L. Ron Hubbard,

and in the mind of Scientology,

once L. Ron Hubbard died,
"Oh, well, great.

We'll be able
to pull this off."

L. Ron Hubbard's will decreed

that his estate
had to be distributed

to a tax-exempt organization
of Scientology.

The Church
of Spiritual Technology

was created for that purpose.

I was a part of the team
that restructured

the entire corporate hierarchy
of Scientology,

including the creation of CST
in the early 1980s.

In 1986,
when L. Ron Hubbard died,

CST still did not have
tax-exempt status.

His estate was held in limbo

because it could
not be distributed.

That started
a very, very intense campaign

from Scientology,
lead by David Miscavige,

to gain exemption from the IRS.

The IRS was engaged
in a criminal investigation.

They were issuing levies

and massive tax assessments
against Scientology,

so Scientology did what Hubbard
says to do.

- Attack.
- Attack. Fight back.

They sued the IRS.

They started putting
private investigators

on individual IRS agents.

- Now a lot of lawyers
hire private eyes

to dig up dirt on people.

I mean, now we are
even hearing...

- I don't know.

I know...
I've heard that people do that,

and I know that the media
does that,

but I don't know that a lot
of lawyers do that.

I don't do that.

- L. Ron Hubbard said,
"Don't go after organizations.

"Go after individuals.

Make it painful
for the individual."

This is not something

that the IRS confronts normally.

I don't think
that they've ever had to deal

with something like this
before, ever.

- We began exposing
the actual who's.

That's right.
Naming names.

First, we filed a suit
for $128 million on the IRS

and the individual IRS agents
committing these criminal acts.

Now, we were able to piece
together their crimes

from the bits of documents
we had received,

and then the International
Association of Scientologists

sponsored more ads
in "USA Today."

You have no idea how much
the IRS hates publicity,

but to see their own faces...

It was more
than they could handle.

- We have obtained
a previously undisclosed memo

from the IRS at this time
that this is going on,

and it reads,

"We have recently received
reports of harassment.

"This harassment has been
in the form

"of photographing employees
and their family members,

"surveillance of residences,
and annoying telephone calls.

"These events have taken place

"in the National Office
in the Los Angeles area.

"We have traced one incident
to a private investigator

associated with
the Church of Scientology."

This went on for ten years.

Could you imagine you work
at the IRS and you're doing...

Just, you're simply your job,
and then all of a sudden,

you have PI's following you?

- It became frantic in 1992.

It became an obsession

and a no-holds-barred assault

on whatever it took

to attain tax-exempt status
for Scientology.

So David Miscavige
and Marty Rathbun

literally walked down
to 1111 Constitution Avenue,

walked into the IRS building,
and said,

"Hi, I want to meet
with the IRS commissioner."

It's reported
that David Miscavige

asked, "If we turn off
the faucet of all of this..."

"Freedom Magazine's"
investigating, exposing,

ads in "USA Today"...

Like, it was a major campaign.

"Can you resolve our issues?"

and Fred Goldberg said, "Yes,"

and ultimately,
the deal was done.

- So this guy didn't want
to continue the fight,

because if they... you know,
there's documents that say,

"We do not find
this organization to be fitting

the criteria for
tax-exempt status,"

and then all of a sudden,
the guy signs off on it.

- Yeah.

- What is so insane
is that Scientology

used their abusive policies
to gain tax-exempt status.

The way that Scientology
achieved tax-exempt status

is the reason
why they shouldn't have

tax-exempt status.
It's... it's actually insane.

You know, out of the dozen
or so, um, IRS agents

who were individually targeted
by Scientology,

we have spoken to two of them.

One of them was unwilling
to appear on camera,

and we asked him why,
and he said, "You know",

"after all this time,

"do you know that I still make
several right turns

"when I'm traveling anywhere?

"Like, that caused me
emotional, like, trauma

"that I still haven't
gotten over

"and I'm here talking
to you guys off-camera

"to try to help you

"because I believe
in what you guys are doing,

"and I think it's outrageous

that this organization received
its tax-exempt status,"

which he didn't believe
they should receive,

but he wanted to help,

but he just didn't want
to appear on camera.

- Yeah, that's...
That's a terrible story, yeah.

- The IRS is well aware
of the tactics of Scientology,

that they should be doing
something about it.

- There will be
no billion-dollar tax bill

which we can't pay.

There will be
no more discrimination.

There will be
no more 2,500 cases

against parishioners
across the U.S.

The pipeline
of IRS false reports

won't keep flowing
across the planet.

There will be no more nothing,

because on October 1, 1993,

at 8:37 p.m.
Eastern Standard Time,

the IRS issued letters
recognizing Scientology

and every one
of its organizations

as fully tax-exempt.

The war is over.

- The IRS acquiesced
on everything

and basically granted

all Scientology organizations
and entities

religious tax-exempt status,

and all donations,
all payments to Scientology

from Scientologists,
as being deductible,

in October of 1993.

- That part is extraordinary
from my perspective.

There's a Supreme Court case
that specifically said

that payment
for auditing services

is not deductible

to the person who makes
the payment,

because it's basically

a quid pro quo
business transaction,

and the Supreme Court
upheld that

and said, "That's right."

The Supreme Court held that,

and then in this settlement,

the commissioner of the IRS
basically said,

"Forget that, and from now on,
you can deduct."

- How do they continue
to get away with

"this is freedom of religion,

this is
our First Amendment rights?"

This is the stuff
that I don't understand,

that given
the tax-exempt status,

it's kind of freed
the path for Scientology...

Continue to do this.

- The best place to start
might be just to back up

and think about, you know,
"What is the point

"of having a tax-exempt program
in the first place," right.

- Sure.
- Everybody pays taxes.

Individuals pay taxes,
institutions pay taxes,

corporations pay taxes,
and that tax money

goes to fund
all of our public benefits.

We, through Congress,
we the people have decided,

you know, there are certain
categories of organizations.

If you are
in one of those categories

and you meet
all of the other requirements,

those groups,
because they provide a benefit

that the government
might not provide

as much as we would like,
they get to be tax-exempt,

but we also have to realize
that there's a cost,

because that's less money
going to the public,

which either means
that everybody else

has to pay more taxes
right out of their pocket,

or it means
we have less services,

we have less defense,
we have less education,

we have less infrastructure,
right, our bridges fall apart.

That's why the agencies
and the IRS,

the Department of Treasury,

have an obligation to make sure
that if somebody is...

If an institution is granted
a tax-exempt status,

that there's
a good reason for it.

- When I say,
"You, American taxpayer,

are subsidizing
the activities of Scientology,"

this is exactly what I mean.

This is your tax dollars
are a substitute

for the tax dollars
from the Church of Scientology.

I would like to just go through
these guidelines

that the IRS uses to determine
what is or isn't a religion

in order to qualify

under that part
of the exempt code.

- The first one is that
the organization

has to be organized formally
as one of the listed types.

Like, it has to be
formally organized

as a religious organization.

I don't think that's the
particularly difficult thing

for any institution
or organization...

to get over that hurdle.
- Right.

- The second one is...
- The second one,

which gets much more complicated

and interesting,
I think, is that you...

That the organization
has to be operated

for the purpose
that it's organized for,

so if you say you're
a literary organization,

then you have to, in fact,

operate
as a literary organization.

To go a little further
in this operational test,

is it acting
as a commercial entity?

If you're making tons of money,
maybe you're a business,

and so that's something
that the agency has to look at.

It's not an either-or thing.

You can be a church,

you can be
a religious organization,

but also be more commercial
than a church,

and therefore not deserve
tax-exempt status.

For example,
an institution that says,

"Our purpose is to protect
against cruelty to animals,"

which happens to be
one of the listed things,

and you do some
animal cruelty prevention,

but you're also selling

lots and lots of books
about animals.

- Okay.
- Right?

And so you're making
lots and lots of money,

and that money maybe
is even going to the person

who runs the organization,
right?

In a sense, you are still
an animal rescue organization,

but you're all
of these other things too,

and so even though you are
an animal-helping organization,

you don't get tax-exempt status.

- If your
religious organization's

primary activity

is accumulating funds
and buying empty real estate,

that is not primarily
the activity of a religion,

and it's not providing
a public benefit.

- Well, let me ask you this,

because people say this
all the time,

what's the difference
between that and real churches?

You know, real churches
have just as much money,

if not more than, Scientology.

- Well, for the most part,

it's the method
in which they collect it,

it's the amount of money

that they have accumulated
over centuries.

Like, the assets
of the Catholic Church

and the buildings they have,

or the Baptist Church,
or whatever,

have been accumulated over h...
A long, long period of time.

Scientology arrived
on the scene in the 1950s

and suddenly has $3 billion,

and massive real estate holdings

around the world,

and doesn't have
a population of people

commensurate with that.

- This is very different,

and Scientology is run
as a business.

- You walk into
a Church of Scientology

and you are required to pay,
and you may not participate

in the main services
of Scientology...

Yes, there's a few
that they throw in

that are free to sort of
be able to say

that we have free stuff,

but the truth of the matter is

everything you do
in Scientology,

you are required to pay for
in advance,

with discounts
for the more in advance,

and discounts

for the bigger amount
that you give them,

and that has been determined

to not be
a commercial transaction,

and that is mind-boggling.

- A tax-exempt organization
can have money,

it can have profits,
it can have bank accounts,

but there has to be some
sort of rela... um,

reasonable relationship,
proportional relationship,

between the money it has
and the benefits its providing.

You know,
the audience should understand

that there's a lot of things
that are clear in the law

and there are a lot of things
that are... that's mushy.

- Let me tell you, Scientology
isn't mushy on this stuff.

- Exactly, even if you
didn't have Scientology

on that point because
it's vague, right,

you still have Scientology
on the other points.

It's a great business model,
right,

because there's tons and tons
of "buy now,"

and "you have to get this now,
and you have to get... "

and you have to buy in advance,

and "50% off"... you know,
it's like a...

You know, I'm sure
they're gonna be running ads

on their Scientology channel.

For... for a "Memorial Day sale
on your eternity."

Like, I'm waiting for that,
but, you know,

they actually have
printed sales pitches

that they send out all the time.

- And if I understand it right,
you know,

that's a big part
of the reason why

the IRS treated them
as not tax-exempt.

- Exactly.
- And they were

absolutely correct.

- So there's al... there's
an additional restriction

on... if you get
non-profit status,

an organization
should not be considered

a non-profit organization
if its activities

are either in further
of an illegal purpose

or a purpose that is contrary
to public policy.

- What is public policy?

- Well, that's like the
$100,000 million question.

The Supreme Court applied it

in a case called
Bob Jones University,

which was an investigation
of whether the university

could discriminate on the basis
of race in its admission.

It didn't let in anybody
but white people.

It said,

"To warrant an exemption,
an institution..."

And any agency
that's looking to see

if something is a violation
of public policy star...

Should start
with that definition.

- Look, when the IRS granted
exemption to Scientology,

there was
a five-year trial period

that was built
into the settlement,

five years Scientology had
to keep showing

that they were in compliance
with the IRS regulations,

and there are a lot of things

in what was presented
to the IRS at that time

that have changed
subsequent to 1998,

when any overview
of Scientology ended,

and that to me is what the IRS

should be going back
and looking at

and saying, "Wait a minute,
you told us this",

but that didn't turn out
to be true."

- I also want
to read you something

that was sent to the IRS

in the course
of seeking exemption.

This is what they said,

and this is
a public record document

that was submitted
to the IRS, saying,

"You should be giving us
tax-exempt status."

This, to me, encapsulates

the real story
of this exemption.

This is the arrogance,

the assertion
of "We will destroy you",

we will attack you."

Why would anybody
put that in there?

- Conflating the IRS
trying to make sure

that a non-profit
organization's in fact

providing a public benefit

with the Holocaust
and with Nazis

is just... is just disgusting.

- Not only was
the application itself weird,

the granting of exemption came
subsequent to court rulings,

including from the
United States Supreme Court,

that said that the IRS
was absolutely correct

in denying Scientology
exempt status

and denying the deductibility
of donations to Scientology.

"The court does not question

"the sincerity of the belief

of those who practice
Scientology."

"Nor does the court hold..."

"Plainly it is.
But..."

Okay, one more that I just want
to mention to you.

There was a decision
that also went

to the United States
Supreme Court

concerning these tapes

called the "Mission
Corporate Category Sort Out."

These tapes were recordings
of Scientology's lawyers

planning to construct a scheme
to avoid IRS taxation.

The way that these tapes
were described was...

"...the United States
government."

Now, those tapes
were turned over

based on this decision,

which was 1991,

again, two years
before the exemption,

and the IRS had those tapes,

again ignored,

and effectively,
that was all thrown out

and IRS just folded
its tent and said,

"Okay, we'll give you exemption

in spite of the fact
that we have these."

- I can't imagine what
the conversations were like,

because all the stuff
was in the...

Was in the public record

and the IRS had a history
of denying

the tax-exempt status
for so long.

The IRS comes before
the Supreme Court and says,

"Here's... here are the facts,"

and they're... you know,
they're what you read,

and then to just ignore that
is, uh, is just...

It's bewildering.

- It is doing a disservice
and injustice

to A, every taxpayer
in the United States,

but more importantly
to the people

who suffer the abuse
at the hands of Scientology,

and this is another point
that the IRS exemption brings:

the lack
of government oversight.

So Scientology never has
to answer up about

how much money has it spent
on private investigators,

how much money has gone
to lawyers to send letters

to people who appear
on our show.

- Religions get some autonomy
to believe different things,

but religions don't get
the authority

to go outside of themselves

and impose harms,

and burdens, and harassment

on people who are just going
about their business.

- Or building a mansion
for L. Ron Hubbard

after he's dead.

A house.
No, five houses.

He's got five houses
constructed for him

around the world
in these CST properties.

- Do you want to know why?

- He's coming back?
- Correct.

- That's the kind of thing
that... that the...

The tax-exempt status analysis

is about, right?

And it's just a matter
of convincing

the people who are in charge
of enforcing that

to at least take another look.

- You've answered a question
for me,

which is very simple,

which is it's not that it's...

We're going after calling them
a church, not a church,

that's our opinion,
but that's fine,

we're just saying "You don't
deserve tax-exempt status,"

and I think that's very simple,

and I think that should be
achievable by the IRS,

and I think they should...

It's time for them to do
something about it.

- From everything I've heard
and everything you've said,

I agree absolutely.

- You're absolutely right,

you believe you are a church
and you are entitled

to believe what you want
to believe.

You can believe in dogs,
you can believe in pineapples.

I mean, if you want
to pray to a pineapple,

you have every right to do it.

Being a religion
does not guarantee

that you should receive
tax-exempt status.

- Look, I understand
that there are

some obstacles to what
the authorities can do,

but there has to be
something more you can do.

There has to be more education.

You have to look
and want to look.

You can't say you don't know
what's going on.

You have to know
what's going on.

This is what you do.

This is what you do
for a living,

to protect and to serve.

- I am Yulanda Williams,

and I am employed
as a lieutenant currently with

the San Francisco
Police Department.

I've been a police officer
for 28 years.

- We have requested

to talk to any person
from law enforcement,

and all have declined.

- I just want to say
everything that I say today

is my personal opinion,
based upon my experiences.

Right.

- Which is very important.
You have experience.

Most people, uh,
who go into law enforcement

don't have this experience.

Not only do they not have
the personal experience,

but it seems... and you
can correct me if I'm wrong...

They don't want
to know about it,

because when I have tried to,
and Mike has tried to go in,

something happens, Yulanda,

like, where they just stop
listening to us.

Why can't we penetrate to teach?

- Unfortunately,
the cult situation

is something that I don't think

that there's any real
law enforcement training

to really know how to deal
with those types of situations

or those types
of religious organizations

that move in the direction
of cult-like treatment

and handling of their members.

Law enforcement responding
to these types of compounds

and religious organizations
need to recognize

people have been living
on these premises

for an extended period of time.

They're potentially brainwashed.

And even with me going
into law enforcement,

it took me 15 years
to finally tell them

who I really was

and that I was a survivor
from a cult,

and then when they found out,
they couldn't believe it.

- Right.
Right.

- And so it's that ideology

that creates some
of the problems

with how law enforcement
is able to best come in

and be equipped to deal
with a cult

or something that's cult-like.

- I want to talk to you
about that.

I want to talk to you about why.

Why did it take you
so long to tell them

that you're a survivor?

- It was fear.
- - Yeah.

- Fear of the fact that

when people speak of those

who have been involved in cults,

they think that there's
something wrong with you.

They automatically assume
that it's your fault.

It's like
the battered wife syndrome.

It's... you know, it's always
the victim's fault.

They feel like
if you were a fool enough

to go into a cult
and you got stuck there,

that's your fault,
that's your problem,

and it's that undertone

that makes someone
who comes from out of a cult

be fearful to go public and say,

"Look, I've been there.
I know what it's like.

I've got first-hand experience
about it."

- So I want to talk to you
about the LAPD.

I filed a missing persons report

on the leader's wife

who hadn't been seen in public
for the time of ten years.

And I was writing letters
to her,

not receiving responses,
I wouldn't...

Couldn't get an answer.
Anyway, filed a police report.

Filed a police report
with my friend

who was a detective at the LAPD.

He asked his captain
if he could take it himself.

The captain said,

"Send it to missing persons
and stay out of it."

Within, what, two days,

LAPD releases a statement
that my report was unfounded.

Then as it starts coming out
in the press,

I guess they got a little, like,

"Oh, we should say something
to this girl,"

so then they said,
"Well, we did make contact,

"and she is fine
and doesn't want

to be spoken to,
doesn't want to be found."

Then I said,
"Well, under what circumstances

"did you see this person,
supposedly?

"Was she alone?

"Did you see her physically
with your own eyes?

"Did you tell her that people
are trying to help her,

that she has a way out?
Did you tell her... "

"We don't have to do
any of that," they said.

It was never clear
that they saw her,

and even if they saw her,
did you see her alone?

Was she with her handlers?
Was she under...

None of that information
could I receive.

- You have to think about it.

Police officers who've never
been exposed to that...

They can't even fathom the idea

that someone
would allow someone to have

that type of control
and to that extent.

Most cults do not
really consider

law enforcement
to be their friends.

Most cults consider
law enforcement

and anything that's associated
with the state

that's trying
to conduct oversight

to be an archenemy.

- Everything outside
of the world of the cult

is evil, bad...
- True.

- You know, everybody's got
different words for it,

but that includes
government agencies,

that includes
Child Protective Services,

that includes everybody,
because they're outsiders.

- Did they give you a copy
of your missing persons report

that you filed?
- No.

I called Lieutenant Dawson,

who was supposedly in charge
of this case,

even though he's not even
listed on the police report,

and he said he couldn't give me
any information.

- Safe-pointing is a concept
that Hubbard came up with

of how you protect
the organization

from outside trouble,

and it entails finding
the people in the community

who are the...

What he called
"opinion leaders."

Like, you don't want the police,

or law enforcement,
or anybody else...

The fire department
or whatever...

Having a bad impression of you,

because they have influence
over your activities,

so you locate the people

within your community

that you need
to have be your friends,

and you do whatever it takes

to make them friendly
towards you,

and each person
that is in that community

that is a friendly person
towards you

is a "safe point,"

and the more safe points

you have
around your organization,

the less likely it is
that your operations

will suffer or be impeded
by the outside world

somehow making its way
inside the Scientology bubble.

- I'm thinking about from
the measure of accountability,

transparency,
and everything else

that when you tie yourselves
and align yourselves so much

with one organization,
it makes it very hard for you

to have a clear view
of what may be occurring,

and you might miss
some very important points.

- Every time I talk to someone
who was involved

in another organization
similar to Scientology,

you go, "Oh, my God, this is...
Like, it's all the same stuff."

- Here's what's so crazy to me.

How do the government agencies
and the police departments

not know that this is what's
going on?

- Again, my suggestion
after talking about this

at the length we have

is the police officer's
standards and training

to communicate
with them directly

and urge them
to start putting together

some type of training on cults.

How do you deal with them?

What are
the underlying red flags

of a cult,

or that someone that might
be going through something

where they're being forced
to do something

that they,
under normal circumstances,

would not do?
- Right.

- And I think
it's incumbent upon us

to come up
with those warning signs,

put the pen to paper
on what they are.

- Agreed.
- Totally agreed.

Educating law enforcement
and government agencies,

and having people within them

that actually understand
what they are dealing with.

Any government agency, like
Child Protective Services...

Another great example...

If someone does come forward

and says,
"Look, I was assaulted.

I was sexually molested,
I was whatever,"

as soon as law enforcement

informs Scientology
that there is a complainer,

there are 50 people
who write affidavits

signed on the penalty
of perjury saying,

"This never happened."
- Absolutely.

- "It's impossible.
It couldn't ever happen."

- And then law enforcement
goes, "Okay, case closed."

- And you go,
"But, wait a minute,

do you know that those people
are lying?"

"Well, they are signed
under penalty of perjury."

It means nothing.

- Because Scientology has a term

called The Greatest Good.
- Yes, the... that's right.

- The Greatest Good is to lie...
- For the cause.

- For the cause.
- Yes.

- Anything that brings
outside agencies

inside the Scientology world
to check

to make sure that Scientology
is doing the right thing

is seen as an attack,

so something as innocuous
as a welfare check

is seen as an attempt
to bring down Scientology.

- If you're really doing
your thorough investigation,

why not have an investigator

just periodically spot check
the location?

Call a social worker and say,

"We would like for you

"as a mandated reporter
of the state

"and a social worker
to go with us.

We need to collaborate."

And again, training,

so that then, the officer
who's put in the situation

to have to take
that hard stand that,

"No, I think something's
going on here

and I need to come in
and see for myself,"

knows that they the backings
of the state, training,

that what they're doing
is what they're supposed to do.

- Right.
- We're leaving others behind

while we just keep
walking around and saying,

"Oh, yeah,
that's a Scientology building.

"Nah, I'm not going in there.
Whoever's in there,

well, that's their problem.
I'm not dealing with it."

We got to stop that.
- Right.

Thank you.

- Thank you.

- You're an amazing human being.

- Had Scientology not obtained
tax-exempt status,

it wouldn't exist.

It could not have paid

that billion dollars
in assessments from the IRS.

It would have had
to be liquidated.

The fact that it got
tax-exempt status

has now allowed Scientology
in the subsequent 20-plus years

to accumulate enormous amounts
of money

that it can use to do
what it wishes.

- The reason why
an organization is tax-exempt

is because they are
supposedly providing

a service to the public.

That's why they have
tax-exempt money,

'cause they're like,
"Oh, okay, we feed the poor,

"so that's why we need
our money.

We're doing good things.
We're servicing the community."

What Scientology is doing
and has been doing

and will continue to do

is just use
their tax-exempt money

to bully people into silence.

The authorities really need
to go after

their tax-exempt status,
'cause that is really the thing

that will stop these abuses.

It will stop the pain.
It will stop the hurt.

It will stop the bullying,
the harassing,

the private eyes
from going after people

who are simply speaking
their truth.