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Grateful Dead:
♪ Y'know death don't
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♪ Have no mercy
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♪ In this land
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♪ Death don't, wow
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♪ Have no mercy
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♪ In this land
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♪ in this land
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♪ Come to your house
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♪ You know he don't
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♪ Take long
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♪ Whaah
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♪ You look in bed this morning ♪
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♪ Children find that your
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♪ Family's gone
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♪ I said death don't
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♪ Ohh
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♪ Have no mercy
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♪ No mercy
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♪ In this land
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I love dead.
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Hate living.
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Jerry Garcia:
I used to draw pictures
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of the Frankenstein monster,
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over and over, you know,
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endlessly
in different positions.
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I think part of it had to do
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with the thing of being afraid
the first time I saw it,
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the thing of having it have
that power of fear over me.
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He's one of the strangest
tales ever told.
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He deals with the two great
mysteries of creation:
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life and death.
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My mother, I think, must have
taken me to see it...
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Abbott and Costello
Meet Frankenstein...
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In 1948 I guess that was.
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I was 6 years old.
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My father had died
the previous year, in '47,
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so that also made it
kind of a heavy time
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in my life emotionally,
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and it was another big reason
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for my clamping on to it,
kind of...
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That power of fear.
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I think there was some desire
on my part to embrace that,
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to not let that
control me that way.
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That whole business
evoked something,
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something very strong.
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And it hit me in that...
In that archetypal center.
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You know, vaboom, you know.
Dong, you know.
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That was my first sense of
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there are things in this
world that are really weird.
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I don't think I knew that
before I saw that movie,
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that there are things
that are really weird,
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and there are people
who are concerned with them.
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That became important to me,
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and I guess I thought
to myself on some level,
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I think I want to be concerned
with things that are weird.
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I think that seems like fun.
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♪ Saint Stephen with a rose
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♪ In and out
of the garden he goes ♪
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♪ Country garden
in the wind and the rain ♪
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♪ Wherever he goes,
the people all complain ♪
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Man:
It's a real challenge,
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if you're not
already a Deadhead,
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to love the Grateful Dead
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because there's so much
distraction.
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♪ Stephen prospered
in his time ♪
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But if you ignore the rabid fans
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and ignore the entire lack
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of all the expected elements
of American entertainment,
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then you will find...
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there's a richness
that fills your soul.
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The Grateful Dead
explored freedom.
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And they were the cutting edge
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of a phenomenal re-examination
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of American values.
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For me, the Grateful Dead
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is the most American
of all bands
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because each musician
that started that band
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came from a completely
different place musically,
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and they somehow managed
to make it work.
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You got a bluegrass
banjo player,
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you got a blues
harmonica player,
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you got a folky guitarist...
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R&B drummer...
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you got a avant-garde
classical composer
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picking up the bass...
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and not long after that,
a marching band drummer.
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And, oh, by the way,
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a genius lyricist
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who created, in his lyrics,
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a non-literal hyper-Americana.
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And you take
all these streams...
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and you dissolve egos
with acid...
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and you stir vigorously.
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That's Grateful Dead music.
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A 1, 2, 3, 4.
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I spent most of my adult life
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as the biographer
to the Grateful Dead.
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How this happened was,
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in 1971, the Grateful Dead
put out an album.
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On the back of it, it said...
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They set up a post office
box in San Rafael.
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Then I had just written
this book about Kerouac.
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So I sent a copy
of the book to Jerry,
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and it changed my life.
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Kerouac was Jerry's great hero.
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Reading On The Road
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was absolutely an essential
part of his growing up.
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Garcia: He really means
something to me.
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That's... That thing of the
typewriter rolls, you know?
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I mean, that... that's so much
like my way of thinking,
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- you know what I mean?
- McNally: Yeah. Yeah.
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Just, like,
put it out there, man.
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Like a record, you know?
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That's what you want
a record to be, you know?
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No starts or stops,
none of that shit.
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That seamless stuff, you know,
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that just, it works.
For me, that stuff works.
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Other people it doesn't work
for, but for me it works.
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Woman: I had never
encountered a mind like that.
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And that's really what
was compelling to me...
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Was the way his mind
worked, you know?
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That's why I went for it then,
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and then, 30 later, again,
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and probably why I'm
sitting here now.
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I read On The Road at age 14
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before I started high school.
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The beatnik world,
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it was so much
a part of who I was
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and everywhere I went.
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Man: Well,
there was a bookstore.
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Brigid Meier:
It was in Menlo Park.
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At a coffee bar called Kepler's.
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And in that bookstore
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one was liable to run across
all kinds of other people
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who were 18, 19 years old
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hanging out reading On The Road
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or The Dharma Bums.
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- Meier: Allen Ginsberg.
- Trist: Ferlinghetti.
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- Kenneth Patchen.
- Howl.
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- All the poetry.
- Eastern mysticism.
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- Buddhism.
- Left-wing politics.
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All of that.
It was all going down.
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I would call them
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post-beatnik proto-hippie
kinds of people
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looking for something
meaningful in life.
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We were the weirdos, the freaks.
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That was my tribe.
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And there, at Kepler's,
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the first person I think
I saw was Garcia.
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There's this beatnik guy
with a guitar.
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He was a folk singer
at that point.
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I think he was only 18.
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And Robert Hunter, who was
also part of that group.
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While they did not
write songs together
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until some years later,
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I had this sense that there was
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a true partnership
forming there.
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Is it cued up? I don't...
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We met sometime in March.
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So that's 1961,
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and then my birthday's
the end of May.
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It's Jerry and Bob, boys.
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Jerry and Bob sang, played.
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Hey, I have an announcement.
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Barbara's father
would like to know
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if anyone wants any more food.
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Woman: Oh, God.
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- ♪ I was born about 10,000 years ago ♪
- Years ago.
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♪ There ain't nothing
in this world ♪
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- ♪ That I don't know.
- I don't know.
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♪ I saw Peter, Paul, and Moses ♪
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♪ Playing
ring around the roses ♪
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♪ And I'll whoop the guy
that says it isn't so ♪
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T'ain't so, Mister.
Now you listen to this.
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We were all finding
inspiration with each other
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in discovering
that we had something
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of a family of a group.
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♪ And that's about
the niftiest thing ♪
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♪ That man has ever done
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Hunter had an interesting
distinction
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amongst all his crew
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in that he had a car,
a very ancient car.
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Meier: The four of us...
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Bob and Alan and Jerry and I...
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Became like a team.
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They'd pick me up after school.
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We would go on road trips.
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And there was this feeling.
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We were feeling something
that came from the beatniks.
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You know, this wonderful,
wonderful sense of connection.
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And I can remember Hunter
reciting Dylan Thomas:
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"And death shall
have no dominion..."
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Remember we were
all a generation
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that had come to age under
the threat of the bomb.
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Not very conducive
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to seeing a meaningful
life going forward.
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Garcia: It was
about possibilities,
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and they were in the air.
They were just in the air.
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And everybody was also waiting
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with this sense of something
is about to happen.
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It was just like everybody
knew it, you know.
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Everybody was waiting
for this thing to happen.
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Something was gonna happen.
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And everybody did what they
could to make it happen.
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- Smoke.
- You know, people would try...
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You try.
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...weird shit,
you know what I mean?
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Smoke.
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Everybody got turned on to pot
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during this period and loved it.
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Mm. Good. Good.
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You know, it seemed like people
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were losing faith
in this reality.
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Like, this can't be
all there is.
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There's just not enough to it.
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There's not enough to it.
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It's not that interesting,
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and it doesn't require
enough of me.
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It is not a challenge.
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It isn't... It isn't
enough fun, you know?
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Oh, yeah. Jerry's
all about having fun.
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We saw the Godard
film Breathless,
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and I said, "I want
my hair like that."
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Jean Seberg.
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Although I had been modeling
Macy's ads in the paper
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and making
a hundred dollars a day...
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Jerry said, "Let's go for it."
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And so he helped me
cut my hair really short
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with nail scissors.
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That was the end
of my modeling career.
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That picture, of course,
is in the Tunnel of Love.
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I really loved him.
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I had already
started art school.
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And I had this whole
beatnik vision
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of art and love
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and literature, music.
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Garcia: Being with Barbara
was like a dream, really.
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She brought such joy with her,
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and she gave me her acoustic
guitar when she was 15.
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That was the my first acoustic
guitar that I owned myself.
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You know, she bought it for me.
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What a wonderful thing
to do, you know?
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I mean, she's the one
that got me on the road,
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really, you know?
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And she was the first person
to have any faith in me.
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♪ I wanna be with you
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We were gonna
be together, you know?
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♪ Under the sun
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♪ The sun that shines
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And it was all gonna be great.
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Good.
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Garcia:
I didn't really start
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to get serious
about music until...
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- Music?
- Uh-huh.
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...until I heard my first
bluegrass music.
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Garcia:
My father was a musician.
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My mother was
an amateur musician.
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My father was
a professional musician.
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So I grew up
in a musical household,
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but the first time I decided
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that it was something
I wanted to do
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was when I heard
five-string banjo...
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Earl Scruggs played
five-string banjo.
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I fell in love
with the sound, and I...
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I thought that's something
I have to be able to do.
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Bluegrass is
a conversational music.
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The instruments kind of
talk to each other.
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That was a model for
how a band could work.
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It's a way to organize music.
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Meier: Once he got
into the banjo,
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Jerry completely fell
down the rabbit hole.
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He felt that he had connected
with something really pure
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and really authentic.
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And would practice all the time.
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And I found bluegrass music
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to be really tiresome.
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I'm so sorry to say this,
but I got bored.
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Garcia: The Grateful Dead
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is really a collection
of friends.
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Man:
I think I'd have to say
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that the Grateful Dead,
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what we know
as the Grateful Dead,
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started when Jerry met Pigpen.
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Garcia: Well, when the
Grateful Dead first started,
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we had one strong suit.
We had Pigpen in the band.
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And he was this guy
from Palo Alto
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whose father had been a
rhythm and blues disk jockey.
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For him, the blues
was very natural,
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and he played harmonica,
and he sang really well.
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♪ Well, I see that woman
goin' behind the hill ♪
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♪ I'm gonna find that girl,
I'm gonna do my will ♪
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♪ Ain't it crazy
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He really had no real
wish to be a performer.
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We sort of forced him into it
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because we knew he could do it.
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So he was kind of
the front man for the band.
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He was our powerhouse guy.
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Man: And then Bob started
taking lessons from Jerry.
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Bob Weir: You know, I got
started with this band
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when I was 16.
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Bob and Pig and Jerry
and Bob Hunter
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formed a band called...
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Weir: You know,
we were a jug band.
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We were an acoustic band.
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There was a lot of focus
on precision and technique,
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on getting it right.
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If you were playin' bluegrass,
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you were playin' a...
It's a fairly rigid idiom.
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Everybody was practicing
furiously,
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and Jerry practiced more
than anybody, I think.
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There were times when,
every now and again
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he'd intimate that I
ought to practice more.
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And generally speaking,
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I'd pick up my guitar
and go sit in the corner
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and, uh,
and practice a little bit
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until, you know,
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until I got frustrated
and put it down
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because, you know,
it's frustrating
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playing an instrument
when the guy over here
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can just play anything
that you can play
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and then play rings around that.
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Garcia: Because of being
too concerned with technique
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and too concerned with...
And frozen, you know,
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and all the sudden
I found myself being a person
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that I didn't want to be
and that I didn't like.
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I felt the music
that I was making
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getting sterile
and inhuman, see?
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And I... I went as far
as to murder that person.
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You know what I mean?
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To stop playing the banjo
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and to give up that whole thing.
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And that was, like,
part of the reason
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for getting involved
with the electric guitar
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and all that is are all
fundamentally reactions
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to that trend in myself.
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Weir: When we picked up
the electric instruments,
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the focus on idiomatic
purity dropped away.
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I viewed The Warlocks...
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While this is a blues
band in one sense,
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it's also a kind
of mutated bluegrass band
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on a certain level.
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And I thought it'd be nice
to have an electric band
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where the instruments talk
to each other you know?
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And so everything we did
came from that idea.
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I think it may have
been May 8, 1965,
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when a bunch of friends and I
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came down to Magoo's
Pizza Parlor
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to catch Jerry's band
The Warlocks.
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I was immediately
in love with the sound...
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of electric guitars.
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Oh, you know, I mean,
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it was really thrilling
to be up close to it
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because all I'd heard
of that music was records.
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Garcia: When I met Phil,
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he was a lunatic
classical composer.
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He was writing this thing
for four orchestras,
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you know, and a super
live wire, Phil was.
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When I first met him,
he was a real live wire,
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so we hit it off like sparks.
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Phil Lesh: Jerry,
just out of nowhere,
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sat me down in one other booth.
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He said, "Hey man,
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"I want you to play
bass in this band.
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"I know you don't play the bass.
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I know you can do it."
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♪ ...trouble all my life
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I said, "Okay, Jerry."
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And I was just stunned
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because, like, the whole
world just opened up.
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I mean, this just came
from like manna from heaven.
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♪ Out in the cold
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My chance to play music
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with somebody who wanted
to make something
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that was unique.
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Man:
Everybody in all bands,
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they'd listen to other musicians
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to learn to be better players.
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And Garcia was
that person for me.
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He was like my music teacher.
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He taught me
about chord changes.
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When I was 17 years old,
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I didn't even know
what a change was.
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Garcia: You know,
he was, like,
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just a teenager,
just a kid, you know.
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When me and Pigpen and Weir
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talked about puttin' together
an electric blues band,
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the only drummer that I really
played with around that area
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that I felt really had
a nice feel was Bill.
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So I talked to him, and he
was just as weird as ever.
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I mean, I really,
really didn't understand
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anything he said, you know?
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I asked him
if he wanted to play,
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and he was just like, you know.
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I said, "What?"
He said,.
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I... "Okay," you know,
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so we played, and it was great.
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Bill Kreutzmann:
It was far out.
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It was far out to be in a band
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with a person that was also
your guiding light in music.
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Weir: I learned by example
from... from all those guys
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but probably Jerry the most.
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I was the kid in every regard.
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They were all my older brothers.
404
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Of all my older brothers,
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Jerry had the most to say,
I'll say that.
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And I think he understood
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that, if we listen to each other
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and lean on each other
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and react meaningfully,
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stuff is gonna happen.
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Lesh: The thing that I got
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was the sense that Jerry
was going somewhere,
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and if I could help
get him there...
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I was gonna do it.
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He was already deeply
into the band as a vehicle.
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He wanted better things for it
than Magoo's Pizza Parlor.
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He wanted to make it
art, you know,
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like, high art.
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He would never admit
to that, but I did.
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Garcia: Typically, we played
421
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six nights a week,
five sets a night.
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It was a great way to get good.
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We were young enough to love it.
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And it was also about the time
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that Kesey and his
collection of friends
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came to our attention.
427
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Original prankster credo
was never trust a prankster
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because, no matter how I try,
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I will eventually lie to you,
430
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even though I may not want to.
431
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If I say one thing today...
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It may not be...
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Reporter: Kill that.
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Go ahead. Would you
repeat that again?
435
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McNally:
In the early sixties,
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Jerry hooks up with a guy
named Ken Kesey
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who's written
a revolutionary book
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called One Flew Over
The Cuckoo's Nest.
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Kesey gathers around him
a number of people,
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one of which is Neal Cassady,
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who is the basis for
Dean Moriarty in On The Road.
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Along with Kesey
and his friends,
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who were dubbed
the Merry Pranksters,
444
00:23:55,043 --> 00:24:00,215
they become interested
in a drug called LSD 25.
445
00:24:02,718 --> 00:24:04,520
On the governmental level...
446
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the original idea had been
447
00:24:07,889 --> 00:24:09,758
that this was
a potential weapon.
448
00:24:09,791 --> 00:24:13,795
So they began a number of
different psychedelic experiments.
449
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Narrator:
Now drugged with LSD,
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the men found it
difficult to obey orders.
451
00:24:19,601 --> 00:24:23,138
When an officer ordered
a leader to drill the squad,
452
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he responded with
"You want 'em drilled?
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You drill 'em."
454
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There was much laughter,
455
00:24:29,678 --> 00:24:32,548
and soon the results
were chaotic.
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McNally: Through
the MK Ultra program,
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the federal government
introduces this drug to Kesey,
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who begins taking it in ways
that they never imagined.
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Kesey: I've always thought
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that this is one of those things
461
00:24:44,726 --> 00:24:46,962
that proves that God
has a sense of humor
462
00:24:46,995 --> 00:24:48,897
when you realize it was the CIA
463
00:24:48,930 --> 00:24:50,766
that really turned on America.
464
00:24:50,799 --> 00:24:54,202
And then Kesey
starts planning a series
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of what they came
to call Acid Tests.
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- The acid test.
- The acid test.
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- The acid...
- Hey, once again.
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00:25:00,576 --> 00:25:02,053
Garcia: The thing that was
fun about those days
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was that people came
to the Acid Tests
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for the acid tests, not for us.
471
00:25:06,014 --> 00:25:08,850
You know, the Acid Test
was not that kind of scene.
472
00:25:08,884 --> 00:25:10,886
Everybody paid to get
into it... everybody.
473
00:25:10,919 --> 00:25:13,154
You know, we paid each
a dollar to get into it.
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00:25:14,255 --> 00:25:15,891
We weren't famous.
475
00:25:15,924 --> 00:25:18,159
Nobody came to the Acid Test
to see us, you know,
476
00:25:18,193 --> 00:25:19,695
so nothing was expected of us.
477
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Announcer: Yes,
the Merry Band of Pranksters
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are the stars in the movie
The Acid Test.
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Lesh: It wasn't a gig.
We weren't required to play.
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We usually wanted to,
but not always.
481
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Announcer: Pigpen.
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Garcia: There were times
when we would play,
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like, two or three tunes
484
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or even a couple of notes
and just stop.
485
00:25:48,957 --> 00:25:51,026
It was great to have
that kind of freedom.
486
00:25:53,361 --> 00:25:54,830
Man: Come on now.
487
00:26:12,113 --> 00:26:13,982
It was totally fun,
488
00:26:14,015 --> 00:26:15,884
and they were very
liberating for us
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because it kind of went along
with where we were going,
490
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which was we were
experimenting with psychedelics
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as much as we were
playing music.
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Narrator: LSD was isolated
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by Stoll and Hofmann
494
00:26:28,396 --> 00:26:30,298
in a Sandoz
pharmaceutical company
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00:26:30,331 --> 00:26:31,967
of Basel, Switzerland.
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00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,669
The doors swung wide open
497
00:26:33,702 --> 00:26:36,905
for research into the
biochemistry of psychosis.
498
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Our attention will be focused
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on the experiences of our
volunteer subject Bill.
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00:26:41,710 --> 00:26:43,812
I'm going to give you this cup
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that contains lysergic acid
100 microgram.
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00:26:49,250 --> 00:26:50,762
Weir: It was a lot
of trouble to go to.
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00:26:50,786 --> 00:26:51,987
I mean, you know, it...
504
00:26:52,020 --> 00:26:55,824
A lot of the LSD experience
is not fun.
505
00:26:55,857 --> 00:26:57,392
Announcer: Listen to me.
506
00:26:57,425 --> 00:27:00,228
You have to work your way
through some stuff.
507
00:27:00,261 --> 00:27:02,030
Announcer:
It feels pretty good.
508
00:27:02,063 --> 00:27:03,699
Kreutzmann:
This was a saving device.
509
00:27:03,732 --> 00:27:05,133
This was a way of being safe,
510
00:27:05,166 --> 00:27:08,269
gettin' away from
all that straightness.
511
00:27:08,303 --> 00:27:10,138
It's like, holy shit,
512
00:27:10,171 --> 00:27:13,942
thank God there's a place
we can go that's cool.
513
00:27:13,975 --> 00:27:15,944
This thing comes over me
514
00:27:15,977 --> 00:27:21,817
of... almost like the singing
of angels or something.
515
00:27:21,850 --> 00:27:24,419
♪ I wrote a letter
516
00:27:24,452 --> 00:27:26,888
♪ Mailed it in the
517
00:27:26,922 --> 00:27:29,691
♪ Mailed it in the air
518
00:27:29,725 --> 00:27:31,226
♪ Indeedie
519
00:27:31,259 --> 00:27:33,729
♪ Wrote a letter
520
00:27:33,762 --> 00:27:36,431
♪ Mailed in the air
521
00:27:36,464 --> 00:27:38,734
Kreutzmann:
The camaraderie in that,
522
00:27:38,767 --> 00:27:42,003
the fellowship in that
is so powerful.
523
00:27:42,037 --> 00:27:45,173
♪ I have got a friend
somewhere ♪
524
00:27:45,206 --> 00:27:47,909
Somehow I don't seem
like I'm myself.
525
00:27:47,943 --> 00:27:50,045
I feel as though I'm
several other people
526
00:27:50,078 --> 00:27:51,279
and all of them better.
527
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,982
Kreutzmann:
That whole thing
528
00:27:54,015 --> 00:27:56,752
about losing the ego,
losing the self...
529
00:27:56,785 --> 00:27:58,286
You don't lose anything.
530
00:27:58,319 --> 00:28:00,221
You just don't have
to be anybody.
531
00:28:00,255 --> 00:28:02,457
It's not about losing
anything, really.
532
00:28:02,490 --> 00:28:04,726
It just comes in totally free.
533
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,229
It's a blank canvas that you
can paint any way you want.
534
00:28:08,263 --> 00:28:10,165
Do you have the pleasant feeling
535
00:28:10,198 --> 00:28:11,733
that you described before?
536
00:28:11,767 --> 00:28:14,369
Yes, uh, I still have it.
537
00:28:14,402 --> 00:28:16,171
I'll never get over it.
538
00:28:16,204 --> 00:28:19,474
It's something that...
I'll never be the same.
539
00:28:19,507 --> 00:28:22,510
Do you find it easier
to draw this picture
540
00:28:22,543 --> 00:28:25,313
or a little more difficult?
541
00:28:25,346 --> 00:28:27,348
It's... It's a lot of fun.
542
00:28:27,382 --> 00:28:30,351
♪ ...by now that I
543
00:28:30,385 --> 00:28:34,923
♪ Have got a friend somewhere ♪
544
00:28:34,956 --> 00:28:37,034
Kreutzmann: And then you got
to spend all night there.
545
00:28:37,058 --> 00:28:39,060
See, I never
understood why the...
546
00:28:39,094 --> 00:28:41,262
Why the music
had to stop at 2:00
547
00:28:41,296 --> 00:28:43,164
because LSD will keep
you going all night.
548
00:28:43,198 --> 00:28:44,866
Doctor: 2:48.
549
00:28:44,900 --> 00:28:47,035
What follows now
is called by Bill
550
00:28:47,068 --> 00:28:48,937
a messianic experience.
551
00:28:48,970 --> 00:28:51,039
There it is. I feel
these lovely colors
552
00:28:51,072 --> 00:28:52,173
vibrating all over me.
553
00:28:52,207 --> 00:28:53,241
Oh, it's lovely.
554
00:28:53,274 --> 00:28:54,976
- Any lines?
- Ohh.
555
00:28:55,010 --> 00:28:56,477
Any forms?
556
00:28:56,511 --> 00:28:59,014
Just like the shimmering
water, you know?
557
00:29:10,558 --> 00:29:12,227
Do you feel happy now?
558
00:29:14,562 --> 00:29:16,131
Do you feel happy?
559
00:29:17,232 --> 00:29:18,967
- Yes.
- You must be
560
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:20,768
because you have tears
in your eyes.
561
00:29:22,570 --> 00:29:24,172
Ohh.
562
00:29:24,205 --> 00:29:25,874
Is that a beautiful experience,
563
00:29:25,907 --> 00:29:26,907
would you say?
564
00:29:29,878 --> 00:29:31,412
Bill: I would say yes.
565
00:29:31,446 --> 00:29:33,381
Describe it again.
566
00:29:33,414 --> 00:29:35,583
Oh, I don't know.
567
00:29:35,616 --> 00:29:37,118
Mmm?
568
00:29:37,152 --> 00:29:39,254
Doing fine. Just try
to describe it.
569
00:29:40,521 --> 00:29:42,057
Oh, you just... You don't know.
570
00:29:42,090 --> 00:29:43,859
I mean, you...
571
00:29:43,892 --> 00:29:47,262
you wanna give yourself...
572
00:29:47,295 --> 00:29:48,997
You wanna give yourself such a...
573
00:29:49,030 --> 00:29:50,498
What happens when I do this?
574
00:29:52,868 --> 00:29:54,102
I don't know. It sort of...
575
00:29:54,135 --> 00:29:56,237
Ahem, nothing much,
576
00:29:56,271 --> 00:29:58,139
except that I was sort of
getting somewhere,
577
00:29:58,173 --> 00:30:00,075
- and you interrupted it.
- I see.
578
00:30:00,108 --> 00:30:01,843
Sort of irritating
in a way, I suppose.
579
00:30:01,877 --> 00:30:03,211
I know, but this experience
580
00:30:03,244 --> 00:30:04,555
was getting to be
a little overwhelming.
581
00:30:04,579 --> 00:30:05,613
Isn't that right?
582
00:30:05,646 --> 00:30:07,148
Well, I wouldn't say.
583
00:30:07,182 --> 00:30:08,449
I'd like to keep it up.
584
00:30:16,391 --> 00:30:19,427
Garcia: I'm a person who was
looking for something,
585
00:30:19,460 --> 00:30:21,262
and psychedelics and music
586
00:30:21,296 --> 00:30:23,431
are both part
of what I was looking for.
587
00:30:23,464 --> 00:30:25,400
Psychedelics are probably
588
00:30:25,433 --> 00:30:30,405
the single most significant
experience in my life.
589
00:30:31,606 --> 00:30:33,508
♪ Bring it on
590
00:30:33,541 --> 00:30:34,976
♪ A little bit higher
591
00:30:35,010 --> 00:30:37,412
Lesh: It's safe to say,
I think,
592
00:30:37,445 --> 00:30:39,881
that the acid test experience
593
00:30:39,915 --> 00:30:43,451
really formed the band,
you know,
594
00:30:43,484 --> 00:30:46,054
as a, uh, group mind.
595
00:30:46,087 --> 00:30:48,223
♪ A little bit higher
596
00:30:48,256 --> 00:30:49,925
And the audience
was part of that.
597
00:30:49,958 --> 00:30:52,227
♪ A little bit higher,
higher, higher ♪
598
00:30:52,260 --> 00:30:53,461
♪ A little bit higher
599
00:30:53,494 --> 00:30:56,397
I remember distinctly receiving,
600
00:30:56,431 --> 00:30:59,634
like, literal communications
from the audience.
601
00:30:59,667 --> 00:31:02,070
- ♪ A little big higher.
- ♪ A little bit higher
602
00:31:02,103 --> 00:31:04,172
Nothing in words.
603
00:31:04,205 --> 00:31:07,675
Sometimes it was like
actual musical ideas,
604
00:31:07,708 --> 00:31:09,210
little fragments of melody.
605
00:31:11,512 --> 00:31:14,215
That's how the Grateful Dead
evolved as they did
606
00:31:14,249 --> 00:31:18,219
was because everybody listened
really hard to each other.
607
00:31:18,253 --> 00:31:20,188
- ♪ Movin' on up.
- ♪ A little bit higher
608
00:31:20,221 --> 00:31:22,423
That's the only way
it can happen.
609
00:31:22,457 --> 00:31:24,359
You have to listen.
610
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,462
You have to listen.
611
00:31:51,219 --> 00:31:53,488
But we discovered
612
00:31:53,521 --> 00:31:55,623
there was another band
called The Warlocks,
613
00:31:55,656 --> 00:31:58,493
who later changed their name
to the Velvet Underground.
614
00:32:00,195 --> 00:32:03,064
And they had a record
out already, so...
615
00:32:03,098 --> 00:32:06,167
I told the guys, "Hey,
there's another band called The Warlocks."
616
00:32:06,201 --> 00:32:08,679
Oh, God, we can't have that name.
Some other band has that name.
617
00:32:08,703 --> 00:32:10,481
We should probably find
another name for ourselves.
618
00:32:10,505 --> 00:32:12,073
We gotta find
a new name, you guys.
619
00:32:12,107 --> 00:32:13,417
Jerry just came over
to the house one day.
620
00:32:13,441 --> 00:32:14,585
We were over at Phil's house.
621
00:32:14,609 --> 00:32:16,311
We started looking
through some books.
622
00:32:16,344 --> 00:32:17,754
We were trying to come up
with a name for the band.
623
00:32:17,778 --> 00:32:20,448
And Jerry just was wandering
around kind of randomly.
624
00:32:20,481 --> 00:32:22,226
- He had this kind of...
- Picked this dictionary.
625
00:32:22,250 --> 00:32:24,385
- Dictionary.
- Funk & Wagnalls I think it is.
626
00:32:24,419 --> 00:32:26,621
I picked up this dictionary
and just opened it up.
627
00:32:26,654 --> 00:32:29,991
And literally the first thing
I saw when I looked at...
628
00:32:30,025 --> 00:32:31,759
Down at the page
was Grateful Dead.
629
00:32:31,792 --> 00:32:33,995
That's the first thing I saw.
630
00:32:34,029 --> 00:32:37,765
The folklorists would
call it a helper motif.
631
00:32:37,798 --> 00:32:41,502
A hero runs across
a mysterious stranger.
632
00:32:41,536 --> 00:32:46,041
Later, it turns out
to be a corpse
633
00:32:46,074 --> 00:32:49,077
who helps him achieve his quest.
634
00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:53,681
It was like...
Kind of, like... creepy,
635
00:32:53,714 --> 00:32:56,151
but I thought it was a
striking combination of words.
636
00:32:57,718 --> 00:32:59,420
McNally: Grateful Dead...
637
00:32:59,454 --> 00:33:04,125
The expression is not
really about death.
638
00:33:04,159 --> 00:33:08,329
The stories are about karma:
639
00:33:10,131 --> 00:33:12,500
How you live your life
640
00:33:12,533 --> 00:33:14,602
and how you relate
to other people.
641
00:33:16,504 --> 00:33:20,541
By confronting death,
you learn how to live.
642
00:33:22,377 --> 00:33:25,580
And Jerry was forced
to confront death
643
00:33:25,613 --> 00:33:27,715
at a painfully early age.
644
00:33:29,250 --> 00:33:31,152
He was only 5
645
00:33:31,186 --> 00:33:34,155
when his father drowned
on a fishing trip.
646
00:33:36,824 --> 00:33:41,496
That's why it was just
a remarkable event
647
00:33:41,529 --> 00:33:44,132
when his chubby little finger
648
00:33:44,165 --> 00:33:46,501
fell on the words
"Grateful Dead"
649
00:33:46,534 --> 00:33:48,403
when they were
looking for a name.
650
00:33:48,436 --> 00:33:50,638
Garcia: It's just repellant
enough, you know,
651
00:33:50,671 --> 00:33:54,109
to sort of filter
kind of curious onlookers.
652
00:33:54,142 --> 00:33:55,810
And I turned to Phil,
and I said...
653
00:33:55,843 --> 00:33:58,113
"Hey, man, how about
the Grateful Dead?"
654
00:33:58,146 --> 00:33:59,823
- Like, jokingly, you know?
- I'm jumping up and down.
655
00:33:59,847 --> 00:34:01,449
"That's it, that's it."
656
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,463
Because that concept
657
00:34:15,496 --> 00:34:19,834
embraced all of the
spiritual rebirth aspect
658
00:34:19,867 --> 00:34:22,770
of what we were trying to do
659
00:34:22,803 --> 00:34:26,274
and what we'd experienced
at the Acid Tests.
660
00:34:27,575 --> 00:34:28,709
This is who we are.
661
00:34:28,743 --> 00:34:30,245
We're the Grateful Dead.
662
00:34:30,278 --> 00:34:31,779
We're grateful to be dead
663
00:34:31,812 --> 00:34:35,316
because now we're going
to be born anew...
664
00:34:36,451 --> 00:34:39,320
into this incredible world
665
00:34:39,354 --> 00:34:41,589
that we're just
glimpsing the edges of.
666
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,762
And it was perfect.
667
00:34:50,198 --> 00:34:52,267
Reporter:
These people are hippies.
668
00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:56,171
They all declare themselves
rebels against our society.
669
00:34:56,204 --> 00:34:57,872
It is hard to figure out
670
00:34:57,905 --> 00:35:00,508
what positive things
they are in favor of.
671
00:35:00,541 --> 00:35:02,477
Their main colony has grown up
672
00:35:02,510 --> 00:35:04,512
in a low-rent district
of San Francisco
673
00:35:04,545 --> 00:35:06,881
which is called Haight-Ashbury.
674
00:35:06,914 --> 00:35:09,584
The place has become
a mecca for young people
675
00:35:09,617 --> 00:35:11,186
who come in search
for something new
676
00:35:11,219 --> 00:35:13,821
and significant for themselves.
677
00:35:13,854 --> 00:35:16,924
♪ See that girl,
barefootin' along ♪
678
00:35:16,957 --> 00:35:19,827
♪ Whistlin' and singin',
she's a-carryin' on ♪
679
00:35:19,860 --> 00:35:22,630
There were a lot of people
there that were like us:
680
00:35:22,663 --> 00:35:24,799
people whose whole lives
681
00:35:24,832 --> 00:35:27,735
they'd been a little
bit different.
682
00:35:27,768 --> 00:35:30,171
They were all people whose
life experience had been
683
00:35:30,205 --> 00:35:32,486
that they were a little out of
whack with everything else.
684
00:35:34,242 --> 00:35:35,410
And they were artists,
685
00:35:35,443 --> 00:35:37,678
and they were poets and writers
686
00:35:37,712 --> 00:35:40,415
and all kinds of people...
People who were, like,
687
00:35:40,448 --> 00:35:43,851
influenced by the beatniks
in a sense.
688
00:35:43,884 --> 00:35:45,953
And they sort of came together,
689
00:35:45,986 --> 00:35:47,888
and it was this ideal
place for it
690
00:35:47,922 --> 00:35:49,690
because the rent was real cheap.
691
00:35:49,724 --> 00:35:51,702
The houses were wonderful,
the beautiful old Victorians.
692
00:35:51,726 --> 00:35:53,437
You know, you get, you know,
four or five people,
693
00:35:53,461 --> 00:35:55,396
and you fix it up
any way you want,
694
00:35:55,430 --> 00:35:56,897
and it was a great way to live.
695
00:35:56,931 --> 00:35:58,475
What we're thinking about
is a peaceful planet.
696
00:35:58,499 --> 00:36:00,235
We're not thinkin'
about anything else.
697
00:36:00,268 --> 00:36:01,845
We're not thinking
about any kind of power.
698
00:36:01,869 --> 00:36:03,547
We're not thinking about
of those kind of struggles.
699
00:36:03,571 --> 00:36:04,948
We're not thinking
about a revolution
700
00:36:04,972 --> 00:36:07,575
or war or any of that.
That's not what we want.
701
00:36:07,608 --> 00:36:10,578
Nobody wants to get hurt.
Nobody wants to hurt anybody.
702
00:36:10,611 --> 00:36:13,981
We would all like to be able
to live an uncluttered life...
703
00:36:14,014 --> 00:36:15,950
A simple life,
a good life, you know?
704
00:36:15,983 --> 00:36:18,653
And, like, think about
moving the whole human race
705
00:36:18,686 --> 00:36:20,588
ahead a step.
706
00:36:20,621 --> 00:36:21,989
Reporter: There are
many apartments
707
00:36:22,022 --> 00:36:23,691
and houses in Haight-Ashbury
708
00:36:23,724 --> 00:36:25,993
maintained by hippies
who work in places
709
00:36:26,026 --> 00:36:29,196
where employers do not mind
bizarre dress or long hair.
710
00:36:30,598 --> 00:36:32,967
This is the house of
a popular local band
711
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,270
which plays hard-rock music.
712
00:36:35,303 --> 00:36:37,572
They call themselves
the Grateful Dead.
713
00:36:37,605 --> 00:36:41,576
In those early days,
it was the most basic
714
00:36:41,609 --> 00:36:43,544
hand-to-mouth scale
you can imagine.
715
00:36:43,578 --> 00:36:45,946
The whole band would live
together in a house.
716
00:36:47,315 --> 00:36:48,849
And we could go and play
717
00:36:48,883 --> 00:36:50,618
anytime we wanted.
718
00:36:50,651 --> 00:36:52,453
Weir: We were living
on top of each other
719
00:36:52,487 --> 00:36:54,389
for a few years, you know,
720
00:36:54,422 --> 00:36:58,025
in the same house,
sharing the kitchen.
721
00:36:58,058 --> 00:36:59,660
You know, people would bitch
722
00:36:59,694 --> 00:37:03,464
about who didn't
close up the milk carton.
723
00:37:03,498 --> 00:37:07,835
It was a family,
uh, kind of deal.
724
00:37:10,638 --> 00:37:13,741
Lesh: We played
together every day.
725
00:37:13,774 --> 00:37:15,009
Every day.
726
00:37:16,744 --> 00:37:18,313
We used to think ourselves
727
00:37:18,346 --> 00:37:20,381
as being fingers on a hand.
728
00:37:20,415 --> 00:37:22,450
They can move independently...
729
00:37:23,984 --> 00:37:25,453
but they're real...
730
00:37:25,486 --> 00:37:26,806
They're all connected
at the core.
731
00:37:28,823 --> 00:37:30,658
Kreutzmann: One of the songs
we came up with
732
00:37:30,691 --> 00:37:32,893
early in our career
was "The Other One."
733
00:37:32,927 --> 00:37:34,729
The technical aspect of it is
734
00:37:34,762 --> 00:37:38,299
it's a 4-4 with a 6-8
laid on top of it.
735
00:37:38,333 --> 00:37:39,976
Musicians know exactly
what I'm talking about.
736
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,303
You're always hearing
two different time levels,
737
00:37:42,337 --> 00:37:44,305
4-4 and 6-8.
738
00:37:44,339 --> 00:37:46,674
And that's a 4-4, right?
And then it goes...
739
00:37:48,376 --> 00:37:51,646
In "The Other One,"
I can go anywhere I want.
740
00:37:51,679 --> 00:37:53,881
There's nothing
that you can't do in it.
741
00:38:12,633 --> 00:38:14,802
That song allowed me to say.
742
00:38:14,835 --> 00:38:17,705
"God, man,
we can do anything."
743
00:38:17,738 --> 00:38:21,842
That's when I really knew
there were no limitations,
744
00:38:21,876 --> 00:38:24,011
no limitations
with my imagination.
745
00:38:49,570 --> 00:38:52,707
Man: We started working
on these rhythm games.
746
00:38:52,740 --> 00:38:57,344
1, 2, 3, 4...
I go "1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 1."
747
00:38:58,479 --> 00:39:00,047
And that's where it started.
748
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:01,858
It started with "The Other One"
kind of stuff.
749
00:39:01,882 --> 00:39:04,385
And then we took it out.
750
00:39:06,020 --> 00:39:07,755
Garcia: When Mickey joined,
751
00:39:07,788 --> 00:39:10,491
it was more than adding just
another drummer, you know.
752
00:39:10,525 --> 00:39:13,694
He was like... represented
another level of formal music.
753
00:39:13,728 --> 00:39:15,406
Mickey Hart: Out there
in the rest of the world,
754
00:39:15,430 --> 00:39:17,632
there are time signatures
755
00:39:17,665 --> 00:39:21,502
that people here in the West
couldn't even conceive of.
756
00:39:21,536 --> 00:39:23,638
Mickey's interest
in the Indian music
757
00:39:23,671 --> 00:39:25,005
and Eastern music
758
00:39:25,039 --> 00:39:26,841
and polyrhythms
and things like that
759
00:39:26,874 --> 00:39:29,043
gave us a lot to work with.
760
00:39:29,076 --> 00:39:32,146
And so I would listen,
I would introduce them,
761
00:39:32,179 --> 00:39:33,848
and Bill would put
the touch to it.
762
00:39:33,881 --> 00:39:35,583
And then, all of
a sudden, I got it.
763
00:39:35,616 --> 00:39:36,984
"Okay, good, we both got it.
764
00:39:37,017 --> 00:39:38,662
All right, let's go after it."
Bill loved it.
765
00:39:38,686 --> 00:39:42,423
Bill could translate
my crazy ideas,
766
00:39:42,457 --> 00:39:44,091
and he could make them swing.
767
00:39:45,626 --> 00:39:49,430
He and I had met
at a Count Basie concert,
768
00:39:49,464 --> 00:39:52,066
and he invited me
to come to see the band.
769
00:39:58,005 --> 00:40:00,475
At that time, I didn't know
their music at all.
770
00:40:02,209 --> 00:40:04,087
All I knew was that they
had just changed their name
771
00:40:04,111 --> 00:40:05,446
from The Warlocks.
772
00:40:08,849 --> 00:40:10,918
The music was fearless,
in a way.
773
00:40:10,951 --> 00:40:13,588
It was so full of energy
and chaotic.
774
00:40:16,657 --> 00:40:18,225
And in the set break,
775
00:40:18,258 --> 00:40:21,529
Bill said, "Let's go get
another set of drums
776
00:40:21,562 --> 00:40:24,131
and you can play with us."
777
00:40:25,900 --> 00:40:27,167
And we played.
778
00:40:49,123 --> 00:40:50,825
So after it was all over,
779
00:40:50,858 --> 00:40:54,695
Jerry looks, and he says,
"This is the Grateful Dead."
780
00:40:54,729 --> 00:40:57,464
He said, "We could take this
around the world."
781
00:40:59,967 --> 00:41:01,736
It's alive.
782
00:41:01,769 --> 00:41:03,738
It's alive. It's alive!
783
00:41:03,771 --> 00:41:05,472
It's alive!
784
00:41:11,746 --> 00:41:13,781
Garcia: There was a conscious
decision in my life
785
00:41:13,814 --> 00:41:15,916
to be involved in
something that was living.
786
00:41:17,184 --> 00:41:18,919
And the Grateful Dead,
787
00:41:18,953 --> 00:41:20,487
that's it.
788
00:41:24,058 --> 00:41:26,894
So, like, I know
the trick that you do
789
00:41:26,927 --> 00:41:28,663
to get everybody up and dancing,
790
00:41:28,696 --> 00:41:29,973
and I know the trick that you do
791
00:41:29,997 --> 00:41:31,799
to get a standing
ovation, you know?
792
00:41:31,832 --> 00:41:34,201
We've learned those things
as a group, right?
793
00:41:34,234 --> 00:41:37,772
But you can't rely on them
because they're lies.
794
00:41:37,805 --> 00:41:41,609
Once you know them,
they then become a device,
795
00:41:41,642 --> 00:41:43,944
and once it's a device,
it's frozen.
796
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,014
I mean, I don't see any sense
797
00:41:47,047 --> 00:41:48,725
in doing the same thing
over and over again,
798
00:41:48,749 --> 00:41:50,226
no matter what it is,
no matter how boss it is.
799
00:41:50,250 --> 00:41:51,719
It's like, to me,
800
00:41:51,752 --> 00:41:54,722
uh, being alive means
to continue to change.
801
00:42:01,228 --> 00:42:04,331
I remember one time
after the Watts Acid Test,
802
00:42:04,364 --> 00:42:06,801
which was particularly strange.
803
00:42:08,268 --> 00:42:09,770
You know, it's dawn.
804
00:42:13,107 --> 00:42:15,776
We drove the bus over
to the Watts towers,
805
00:42:15,810 --> 00:42:17,130
and we got out
and looked at them.
806
00:42:25,352 --> 00:42:28,088
Weir: You know,
we were young.
807
00:42:28,122 --> 00:42:30,357
Jerry was... Christ, what was he?
808
00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:35,095
Maybe... 21, 22
809
00:42:35,129 --> 00:42:36,096
when, uh...
810
00:42:36,130 --> 00:42:38,298
When he...
811
00:42:38,332 --> 00:42:42,670
had that realization
with the Watts towers.
812
00:42:42,703 --> 00:42:44,772
Garcia: See, the city
of Los Angeles said,
813
00:42:44,805 --> 00:42:46,106
"These things are dangerous.
814
00:42:46,140 --> 00:42:47,651
They're gonna fall down
and hurt somebody."
815
00:42:47,675 --> 00:42:49,009
So they moved wreckers
816
00:42:49,043 --> 00:42:50,711
and things like that
in there, and cranes,
817
00:42:50,745 --> 00:42:52,613
and they tried to pull down
this guy's towers
818
00:42:52,647 --> 00:42:54,348
after he was dead.
819
00:42:54,381 --> 00:42:56,226
They couldn't budge them.
They couldn't pull them down.
820
00:42:56,250 --> 00:42:58,385
So they said,
"Well they're solid."
821
00:42:58,418 --> 00:43:01,355
So now they're in the tourist
pamphlets and stuff like that.
822
00:43:01,388 --> 00:43:03,958
But my thoughts about that
were something like,
823
00:43:03,991 --> 00:43:08,395
Well, if you work by yourself
as hard as you can, every day,
824
00:43:08,428 --> 00:43:09,964
after you're dead,
825
00:43:09,997 --> 00:43:11,866
you've left behind something
826
00:43:11,899 --> 00:43:13,834
that they can't
tear down, you know.
827
00:43:13,868 --> 00:43:17,337
If you work real hard,
that's the payoff.
828
00:43:17,371 --> 00:43:20,007
The individual artist's payoff,
829
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:22,677
that thing that exists
after you're dead.
830
00:43:26,681 --> 00:43:30,818
You know, and I thought,
Wow, that's not it for me.
831
00:43:30,851 --> 00:43:32,920
Instead of making something
that lasts forever,
832
00:43:32,953 --> 00:43:35,022
I thought, I think
I'd rather have fun.
833
00:43:35,055 --> 00:43:38,158
Weir: He was saying "Fun.
I just want to have fun."
834
00:43:38,192 --> 00:43:40,094
For me, it was more
important to be involved
835
00:43:40,127 --> 00:43:42,129
in something that was
flowing and dynamic
836
00:43:42,162 --> 00:43:45,065
and not so solid that you
couldn't tear it down.
837
00:43:45,099 --> 00:43:47,334
I just started
giggling with him.
838
00:43:49,036 --> 00:43:50,070
I got it.
839
00:43:54,341 --> 00:43:55,642
In eternity...
840
00:43:57,344 --> 00:44:00,915
nothing will be
remembered of you.
841
00:44:06,020 --> 00:44:07,988
So why not just have fun?
842
00:44:11,391 --> 00:44:15,362
I guess it's probably
a diminutive way
843
00:44:15,395 --> 00:44:18,265
of saying something that
people would try to enshrine
844
00:44:18,298 --> 00:44:21,035
in much loftier terms.
845
00:44:22,837 --> 00:44:24,805
You're there
in the exploding moment.
846
00:44:28,108 --> 00:44:29,810
And I was there with him,
you know,
847
00:44:29,844 --> 00:44:31,345
and I was down with that.
848
00:44:31,378 --> 00:44:33,447
Yeah. Let's have some fun.
849
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,604
Hart: Drums give their life
in the playing.
850
00:44:47,606 --> 00:44:49,641
They decompose.
851
00:44:49,675 --> 00:44:52,478
You know, we beat 'em up.
852
00:44:54,580 --> 00:44:56,181
When a drum comes
into my collection,
853
00:44:56,214 --> 00:45:00,185
it gets sampled and put in
the memory banks.
854
00:45:04,623 --> 00:45:06,124
I'm trying to develop
an instrument
855
00:45:06,157 --> 00:45:08,059
that will allow me
to go into the future.
856
00:45:08,093 --> 00:45:10,862
So you can do all kinds
of things with it.
857
00:45:10,896 --> 00:45:12,464
This is the one that does it.
858
00:45:15,601 --> 00:45:17,569
This is the time
and space machine, really.
859
00:45:19,805 --> 00:45:22,941
That's what this thing does.
It's a time and space machine.
860
00:45:29,014 --> 00:45:31,883
Weir: It's almost inescapable
that if you work at something,
861
00:45:31,917 --> 00:45:33,985
you're gonna build something.
862
00:45:34,019 --> 00:45:38,256
There's no information at all.
863
00:45:38,289 --> 00:45:42,661
Well, we were workin' at it,
this book of songs...
864
00:45:42,694 --> 00:45:44,796
Is there a label on that one?
865
00:45:44,830 --> 00:45:46,031
...and a book of recordings.
866
00:45:46,064 --> 00:45:48,967
Uh, let's pull these.
867
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:53,939
Everybody's trying to decide
what it was we were up to.
868
00:45:53,972 --> 00:45:56,875
And what this meant,
and what that meant.
869
00:45:56,908 --> 00:45:58,644
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
870
00:45:58,677 --> 00:46:00,679
Then they closed the book
and put it on the shelf.
871
00:46:00,712 --> 00:46:04,082
Ah, you wanted to see footage.
872
00:46:05,150 --> 00:46:06,885
Oh, this is, this is...
873
00:46:06,918 --> 00:46:08,053
Hollywood Pop festival.
874
00:46:08,086 --> 00:46:10,155
Holy Jesus.
Okay, this is...
875
00:46:10,188 --> 00:46:11,256
Nineteen-Seventy.
876
00:46:11,289 --> 00:46:12,724
This is the holy grail here.
877
00:46:12,758 --> 00:46:13,892
"Rehearsal Roundhouse,
878
00:46:13,925 --> 00:46:16,261
including Candyman
and Live Dead."
879
00:46:16,294 --> 00:46:18,897
Christ. We're gonna need
a screening room, I guess.
880
00:46:18,930 --> 00:46:25,837
Let's set up a little theater
at TRI, get some take out.
881
00:46:25,871 --> 00:46:27,639
This is gonna be fun.
882
00:46:27,673 --> 00:46:31,176
Man: Emotional content.
883
00:46:39,918 --> 00:46:41,152
Weir: Holy Jesus.
884
00:46:43,722 --> 00:46:44,856
Wow.
885
00:46:47,826 --> 00:46:51,697
Okay, this is...
This is from London.
886
00:46:51,730 --> 00:46:53,965
I wonder if this has soundtrack
on it?
887
00:47:01,206 --> 00:47:03,809
This has never been seen.
888
00:47:03,842 --> 00:47:06,578
...a moment or two, and then we'll
be on our way to Philadelphia.
889
00:47:06,612 --> 00:47:07,779
I don't know why.
890
00:47:07,813 --> 00:47:09,180
Sam Cutler: Well, I mean,
891
00:47:09,214 --> 00:47:12,984
I can tell you exactly
what happened, right?
892
00:47:13,018 --> 00:47:15,086
Man:
One, take one, tail slate.
893
00:47:22,127 --> 00:47:25,030
Cutler:
This was a period when business
894
00:47:25,063 --> 00:47:27,633
was looking at the hippie scene
895
00:47:27,666 --> 00:47:31,870
and working out different forms
of how to commercialize it.
896
00:47:33,672 --> 00:47:37,843
The perfect, idyllic childhood
of the Grateful Dead
897
00:47:37,876 --> 00:47:41,179
as a group of musicians
was over.
898
00:47:42,681 --> 00:47:44,349
The Haight-Ashbury was destroyed
899
00:47:44,382 --> 00:47:45,984
by becoming popular.
900
00:47:48,319 --> 00:47:50,221
So, the hippies left.
901
00:47:55,360 --> 00:48:00,298
I've constantly traveled
all my life.
902
00:48:00,331 --> 00:48:02,834
That's the dream, you know.
903
00:48:02,868 --> 00:48:06,905
Get a van and go to bed in it,
cruise around America.
904
00:48:11,009 --> 00:48:14,746
A tour manager's role is
a very odd thing to define,
905
00:48:14,780 --> 00:48:17,683
because what a tour manager does
is what's ever necessary
906
00:48:17,716 --> 00:48:19,350
to keep the whole
damn thing rolling.
907
00:48:19,384 --> 00:48:23,121
Rollin', rollin', rollin'.
908
00:48:23,154 --> 00:48:26,024
If you're gonna to be the tour
manager for the Grateful Dead,
909
00:48:26,057 --> 00:48:29,695
the kind of person that
you are is a person that's
910
00:48:29,728 --> 00:48:32,063
prepared to deal,
911
00:48:32,097 --> 00:48:33,965
in essence, with anything.
912
00:48:35,366 --> 00:48:37,202
You know, I mean,
913
00:48:37,235 --> 00:48:39,270
'cause if you're not
prepared to deal with it...
914
00:48:40,939 --> 00:48:43,008
Uh-oh.
915
00:48:43,041 --> 00:48:44,843
So, what's happening here,
916
00:48:44,876 --> 00:48:47,112
I've got a cop right behind me.
917
00:48:47,145 --> 00:48:48,680
I think he wants to...
918
00:48:50,315 --> 00:48:52,784
Are we being pulled?
919
00:48:52,818 --> 00:48:54,419
We are.
920
00:48:54,452 --> 00:48:56,387
My black jacket is on the bed.
921
00:48:56,421 --> 00:48:58,790
It's got my driver's license
and everything in it.
922
00:48:58,824 --> 00:49:00,692
Pass it to me, please.
923
00:49:04,863 --> 00:49:08,700
I don't have any issues
with the police,
924
00:49:08,734 --> 00:49:11,703
'cause I never travel
with drugs.
925
00:49:13,238 --> 00:49:16,141
There's a simple reason.
926
00:49:16,174 --> 00:49:18,109
There's no necessity
for me to travel
927
00:49:18,143 --> 00:49:19,745
from A to B with drugs,
928
00:49:19,778 --> 00:49:21,288
because all the drugs
I would ever need
929
00:49:21,312 --> 00:49:23,915
are wherever I happen
to find myself.
930
00:49:23,949 --> 00:49:26,918
I mean right now,
within thirty minutes,
931
00:49:26,952 --> 00:49:30,055
I could find any drug
that I want.
932
00:49:30,088 --> 00:49:31,823
I could look on the street.
933
00:49:31,857 --> 00:49:33,367
I'm not going to go talk
to that guy, am I?
934
00:49:33,391 --> 00:49:35,927
The Lubavitch or whatever you
call those people.
935
00:49:35,961 --> 00:49:39,097
I can just look at people.
936
00:49:39,130 --> 00:49:41,042
I go, "Oh, yeah. There's the guy
to talk to." I know that.
937
00:49:41,066 --> 00:49:43,769
Yeah, instinctively.
938
00:49:43,802 --> 00:49:46,237
Well, go on, get out
of the fucking way,
939
00:49:46,271 --> 00:49:47,438
you fucking idiot.
940
00:49:49,941 --> 00:49:53,144
People ask who the Grateful Dead
were, what they are, right?
941
00:49:53,178 --> 00:49:55,747
And one time,
I was sitting with Garcia.
942
00:49:55,781 --> 00:49:57,382
We'd just smoked a joint.
943
00:49:57,415 --> 00:49:59,818
I'd only known the man,
I don't know,
944
00:49:59,851 --> 00:50:01,219
three days or something.
945
00:50:01,252 --> 00:50:02,363
I says, "Well, what are
the Grateful Dead?
946
00:50:02,387 --> 00:50:03,955
"Who are the Grateful Dead?
947
00:50:03,989 --> 00:50:06,124
What is this thing
called the Grateful Dead?"
948
00:50:06,157 --> 00:50:08,126
And Jerry said, "Well,
949
00:50:08,159 --> 00:50:11,830
"if you think of the music
business as a forest,
950
00:50:11,863 --> 00:50:14,966
"the thicket
of the music business,
951
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,969
"and you come to, like,
a little break in the forest,
952
00:50:18,003 --> 00:50:22,808
"and there's a patch
in the sunlight of grass...
953
00:50:22,841 --> 00:50:26,778
"and in the middle
of that patch...
954
00:50:26,812 --> 00:50:30,181
"there's some little
flowers growing.
955
00:50:30,215 --> 00:50:33,084
Those flowers,
that's the Grateful Dead."
956
00:50:36,387 --> 00:50:38,423
Jesus, man,
you know what I mean?
957
00:50:38,456 --> 00:50:39,991
For fuck's sake,
you know what I mean?
958
00:50:40,025 --> 00:50:41,359
But, that's how they are.
959
00:50:45,096 --> 00:50:47,232
Garcia:
Dingy little airport.
960
00:50:49,868 --> 00:50:52,237
Cutler: I was very lucky
to be with the Grateful Dead
961
00:50:52,270 --> 00:50:56,241
for their first European tour...
962
00:50:56,274 --> 00:50:58,176
paid for by Warner Brothers,
963
00:50:58,209 --> 00:50:59,811
you know, their record company.
964
00:50:59,845 --> 00:51:02,147
Where's the rest of them?
965
00:51:02,180 --> 00:51:04,916
Warner Brothers wanted
to turn the Grateful Dead
966
00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:07,552
into a very successful
rock 'n' roll band.
967
00:51:07,585 --> 00:51:11,289
What a revolting display.
968
00:51:11,322 --> 00:51:13,491
They were only interested
in one model
969
00:51:13,524 --> 00:51:16,194
of what constituted
the Grateful Dead.
970
00:51:16,227 --> 00:51:18,029
That was a model
that sold records.
971
00:51:18,063 --> 00:51:19,898
- Is this the new album?
- Yeah.
972
00:51:19,931 --> 00:51:21,332
There aren't any old ones.
973
00:51:21,366 --> 00:51:23,835
It took years, in fact,
for the Grateful Dead
974
00:51:23,869 --> 00:51:26,104
to provide Warner Brothers
with something
975
00:51:26,137 --> 00:51:30,475
that Warner Brothers
was capable of selling.
976
00:51:30,508 --> 00:51:33,979
Before that, it was like,
977
00:51:34,012 --> 00:51:36,214
"Oh my God, what do we do
with these people?"
978
00:51:43,989 --> 00:51:47,458
Got to look good now.
I want final cut.
979
00:51:51,362 --> 00:51:53,965
I was president
of Warner Brothers Records,
980
00:51:53,999 --> 00:51:55,934
and it was a pop company,
981
00:51:55,967 --> 00:51:59,204
and our roster included acts
982
00:51:59,237 --> 00:52:01,339
like Peter, Paul and Mary,
983
00:52:01,372 --> 00:52:05,243
Petula Clark, Frank Sinatra.
984
00:52:05,276 --> 00:52:07,412
We had a terrific label,
985
00:52:07,445 --> 00:52:10,615
and we had some terrific acts,
986
00:52:10,648 --> 00:52:13,218
but we were missing
a whole ingredient.
987
00:52:13,251 --> 00:52:16,154
We didn't have a real rock band.
988
00:52:16,187 --> 00:52:20,558
And right up in San Francisco
was this scene going on,
989
00:52:20,591 --> 00:52:24,229
and I realized we that we had
to make a connection
990
00:52:24,262 --> 00:52:27,465
with this group of musicians,
991
00:52:27,498 --> 00:52:30,201
not that I really understood
their lifestyle.
992
00:52:33,204 --> 00:52:35,606
There was one band
that was not signed yet.
993
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,143
It was the Grateful Dead.
994
00:52:38,176 --> 00:52:39,945
But, we knew that
the Grateful Dead
995
00:52:39,978 --> 00:52:41,679
were one of the leaders
of the pack.
996
00:52:41,712 --> 00:52:44,549
And so somebody set up
a meeting,
997
00:52:44,582 --> 00:52:47,185
and then I met with the band.
998
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:50,588
It was like a Fellini movie.
999
00:52:50,621 --> 00:52:52,323
Weird things were happening,
1000
00:52:52,357 --> 00:52:54,559
and the smell
of dope in the air,
1001
00:52:54,592 --> 00:52:56,094
and I realized
that I wasn't dealing
1002
00:52:56,127 --> 00:52:58,696
with Dean Martin here anymore.
1003
00:52:58,729 --> 00:53:02,968
I'm a middle class guy
from Chelsea, Massachusetts
1004
00:53:03,001 --> 00:53:06,004
and had never really been
involved in that kind of society.
1005
00:53:06,037 --> 00:53:07,572
And even in the music business,
1006
00:53:07,605 --> 00:53:10,441
the wildest act we had
was Trini Lopez.
1007
00:53:10,475 --> 00:53:13,644
And I'm trying to imply
that I'm a guy of the streets,
1008
00:53:13,678 --> 00:53:15,213
that I understand their music
1009
00:53:15,246 --> 00:53:17,949
and would do
a terrific job for them.
1010
00:53:17,983 --> 00:53:21,319
And we got together
and thrashed out a contract.
1011
00:53:21,352 --> 00:53:23,521
And then we got
these guys in the studio,
1012
00:53:23,554 --> 00:53:26,491
and then the stuff hit the fan.
1013
00:53:27,625 --> 00:53:28,960
♪ Na-Na-Na
1014
00:53:28,994 --> 00:53:30,395
- Right?
- Yeah, yeah.
1015
00:53:30,428 --> 00:53:33,498
The first couple of albums
were very difficult.
1016
00:53:33,531 --> 00:53:35,366
The underground stations
played them,
1017
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,537
but no pop station was gonna
play a fourteen-minute drone
1018
00:53:39,570 --> 00:53:42,173
with Jerry on the guitar
rolling along.
1019
00:53:44,375 --> 00:53:48,546
And I said, "Is it possible
we could have maybe a single?
1020
00:53:48,579 --> 00:53:50,548
Is that possible?"
1021
00:53:50,581 --> 00:53:52,550
♪ Look for a while
1022
00:53:52,583 --> 00:53:56,021
♪ At the China Cat sunflower
1023
00:53:56,054 --> 00:53:59,590
♪ Proud walking jingle
in the midnight sun ♪
1024
00:53:59,624 --> 00:54:04,029
Hart: We were the last thing the
record company wanted to see.
1025
00:54:04,062 --> 00:54:07,098
Oh man, we drove them mad.
1026
00:54:07,132 --> 00:54:08,575
All right, let's get...
Let's do this.
1027
00:54:08,599 --> 00:54:11,569
They would send us letters
saying things like,
1028
00:54:11,602 --> 00:54:14,639
"You're over budget here,
over time.
1029
00:54:14,672 --> 00:54:15,673
You guys are crazy."
1030
00:54:19,810 --> 00:54:22,580
And then, we would grade 'em
and send it back to 'em.
1031
00:54:27,352 --> 00:54:28,753
♪ China Cat
1032
00:54:30,521 --> 00:54:33,058
Garcia: Our strategy was,
what we want to do is,
1033
00:54:33,091 --> 00:54:34,759
we want to play in the studio.
1034
00:54:34,792 --> 00:54:36,527
We want to learn how
the studio works.
1035
00:54:36,561 --> 00:54:38,496
We don't want somebody else
doing it, you know?
1036
00:54:38,529 --> 00:54:40,298
It's our music,
we want to do it.
1037
00:54:40,331 --> 00:54:42,800
So, what we did essentially was
to spend lots and lots of time
1038
00:54:42,833 --> 00:54:45,070
in the studio fooling around
with stuff, you know?
1039
00:54:45,103 --> 00:54:47,772
Let's try this.
See what happens when you do this.
1040
00:54:47,805 --> 00:54:49,407
Whoops!
That's not going to work.
1041
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,176
Let's try this over here.
1042
00:54:51,209 --> 00:54:56,047
No, no. You know, it was a trial
and error kind of thing.
1043
00:54:56,081 --> 00:54:59,384
Hart: I remember,
the one day, Bob thought,
1044
00:54:59,417 --> 00:55:02,453
"Oh, it's a full moon.
We gotta go to the zoo."
1045
00:55:04,589 --> 00:55:08,159
And so we went ahead,
and we started climbing over the gate.
1046
00:55:08,193 --> 00:55:10,495
And we were laughing so much.
1047
00:55:10,528 --> 00:55:12,597
We were so high, you know.
1048
00:55:12,630 --> 00:55:15,666
Smith: The band thought
they could come to town
1049
00:55:15,700 --> 00:55:17,468
and go to the zoo,
1050
00:55:17,502 --> 00:55:20,105
and hang out until it closed,
1051
00:55:20,138 --> 00:55:22,273
and at night,
turn on their tape recorders.
1052
00:55:22,307 --> 00:55:24,109
We gotta record the animals.
1053
00:55:24,142 --> 00:55:26,423
And they believed they could
communicate with the animals.
1054
00:55:29,547 --> 00:55:31,316
And then one day, Bob Weir said,
1055
00:55:31,349 --> 00:55:33,118
"I have an idea.
1056
00:55:33,151 --> 00:55:37,122
"We go out on a hot,
smoggy day in Los Angeles.
1057
00:55:37,155 --> 00:55:39,390
"and we record thirty
minutes of heavy air.
1058
00:55:42,260 --> 00:55:44,562
"And then, we go to the desert
1059
00:55:44,595 --> 00:55:47,832
"and we do thirty minutes
of clear air, and we mix it,
1060
00:55:47,865 --> 00:55:50,501
and that could be
like a rhythm track."
1061
00:55:55,606 --> 00:55:59,710
They always claimed that I would
never understand their music
1062
00:55:59,744 --> 00:56:02,847
until I turned on.
1063
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,450
That one time I did
the laughing gas with them.
1064
00:56:05,483 --> 00:56:07,352
Acid rock, motherfucker.
1065
00:56:07,385 --> 00:56:09,554
Whatever that gas is called.
1066
00:56:09,587 --> 00:56:11,456
- Nitrous rock.
- Would you like some gas?
1067
00:56:11,489 --> 00:56:13,724
The costs were going crazy.
1068
00:56:13,758 --> 00:56:17,195
The most expensive project we'd
ever had at Warner Brothers Records.
1069
00:56:19,264 --> 00:56:23,334
And still, they wanted
more money for the studio.
1070
00:56:23,368 --> 00:56:25,436
And I said, "More money?"
1071
00:56:25,470 --> 00:56:27,805
You've spent over
the record amount."
1072
00:56:27,838 --> 00:56:29,507
"We need more money."
1073
00:56:29,540 --> 00:56:33,211
More.
1074
00:56:33,244 --> 00:56:35,546
But we knew we had
to stay with this,
1075
00:56:35,580 --> 00:56:40,318
and I could only hope that they
would put out something commercial.
1076
00:56:43,421 --> 00:56:44,889
And they came in
with the artwork,
1077
00:56:44,922 --> 00:56:47,225
and the title,
1078
00:56:47,258 --> 00:56:49,394
"Aoxomoxoa."
1079
00:56:49,427 --> 00:56:50,928
I still can't pronounce it.
1080
00:56:50,961 --> 00:56:53,464
Aoxomoxoa.
It's a palindrome.
1081
00:56:53,498 --> 00:56:55,400
Not my idea of a hit record.
1082
00:57:21,659 --> 00:57:23,961
Lesh: The record company was
gonna take what we gave 'em,
1083
00:57:23,994 --> 00:57:26,464
like it or not.
1084
00:57:26,497 --> 00:57:29,234
And we didn't care if they
dropped us from the label.
1085
00:57:29,267 --> 00:57:31,269
We don't give a shit.
1086
00:57:32,803 --> 00:57:35,673
Grateful Dead always
wanted to play live.
1087
00:57:37,742 --> 00:57:39,477
That was our fundamental thing.
1088
00:57:39,510 --> 00:57:44,849
Recording was like making
an ad for the band.
1089
00:57:47,252 --> 00:57:49,587
Kreutzmann:
When you went into a studio,
1090
00:57:49,620 --> 00:57:51,356
each track you take,
1091
00:57:51,389 --> 00:57:53,958
you gotta play it the way
you did the first time.
1092
00:57:53,991 --> 00:57:57,595
And I never was good
at keeping time.
1093
00:57:57,628 --> 00:57:59,630
Time...
1094
00:57:59,664 --> 00:58:02,433
I'm probably the worst drummer
at keeping time,
1095
00:58:02,467 --> 00:58:04,345
because I don't think
about drumming as keeping time.
1096
00:58:04,369 --> 00:58:05,870
It's not like that.
1097
00:58:05,903 --> 00:58:09,407
Keeping time is something
a march band might do.
1098
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:12,743
For me, it was keeping feeling.
1099
00:58:12,777 --> 00:58:16,414
I like to take the song
so far out
1100
00:58:16,447 --> 00:58:18,349
that you don't remember
what song you're in.
1101
00:58:18,383 --> 00:58:19,850
And sometimes that would happen.
1102
00:58:19,884 --> 00:58:21,786
I would be playing along going,
1103
00:58:21,819 --> 00:58:23,721
"This is fucking great man.
1104
00:58:23,754 --> 00:58:25,256
"I can't believe this shit.
1105
00:58:25,290 --> 00:58:26,724
This is outrageous."
1106
00:58:26,757 --> 00:58:28,259
Right? And go,
1107
00:58:28,293 --> 00:58:29,827
"Oh shit, what song is this?
1108
00:58:29,860 --> 00:58:31,896
"Oh, it doesn't matter.
1109
00:58:31,929 --> 00:58:33,931
It's working,
just keep playing."
1110
00:58:37,034 --> 00:58:40,838
Lesh: The moment is king.
1111
00:58:40,871 --> 00:58:44,309
This is collective
improvisation.
1112
00:58:44,342 --> 00:58:46,944
No one person can think
all this up themselves.
1113
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,717
And when we're really on it,
1114
00:58:52,750 --> 00:58:54,652
we can open the valve.
1115
00:59:26,651 --> 00:59:28,529
Cutler: The Grateful Dead
didn't really care about,
1116
00:59:28,553 --> 00:59:30,955
you know, having a particularly,
1117
00:59:30,988 --> 00:59:34,325
commercially successful record.
1118
00:59:34,359 --> 00:59:37,362
And they certainly didn't care
about making lots of money.
1119
00:59:37,395 --> 00:59:39,340
When I joined them,
they didn't give a fuck about money.
1120
00:59:39,364 --> 00:59:42,032
That's six pennies.
That's twelve pennies.
1121
00:59:42,066 --> 00:59:43,668
We call it a shilling, right?
1122
00:59:43,701 --> 00:59:45,736
Some of them are new
and some of them are old,
1123
00:59:45,770 --> 00:59:47,872
so you do it by size basically.
1124
00:59:47,905 --> 00:59:51,876
So what I did was,
I saw it as my role
1125
00:59:51,909 --> 00:59:55,480
was to show them how to make
a living of being musicians.
1126
00:59:55,513 --> 00:59:57,515
Dollar twenty, right?
Half a pound.
1127
00:59:57,548 --> 01:00:00,485
And how to come back
from tour with some money,
1128
01:00:00,518 --> 01:00:01,886
which they never did.
1129
01:00:01,919 --> 01:00:03,597
They always came back from tour,
there was no money.
1130
01:00:03,621 --> 01:00:05,656
All right, if something
cost you eight shillings
1131
01:00:05,690 --> 01:00:08,125
and you gave them a pound,
how much change would you expect?
1132
01:00:08,158 --> 01:00:10,361
Garcia:
If they gave me eight shillings?
1133
01:00:10,395 --> 01:00:12,506
- Cutler: If it cost eight shillings...
- Twelve shillings.
1134
01:00:12,530 --> 01:00:14,708
...and you gave them a pound,
you'd expect twelve back, right.
1135
01:00:14,732 --> 01:00:16,701
Garcia, you're brilliant.
1136
01:00:16,734 --> 01:00:19,370
Duh.
1137
01:00:19,404 --> 01:00:21,147
Cutler: And I think
the Grateful Dead hired me
1138
01:00:21,171 --> 01:00:23,741
for one simple reason,
1139
01:00:23,774 --> 01:00:26,544
because I had something
that they needed.
1140
01:00:30,014 --> 01:00:31,725
I was the tour manager
for the Rolling Stones
1141
01:00:31,749 --> 01:00:33,451
in 1969.
1142
01:00:33,484 --> 01:00:36,086
And then after
the Altamont Festival,
1143
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,689
I went to work
for the Grateful Dead.
1144
01:00:38,723 --> 01:00:40,725
Jerry was fascinated
1145
01:00:40,758 --> 01:00:45,430
by how the Rolling Stones
organized their trip.
1146
01:00:45,463 --> 01:00:47,732
He wanted to know how
1147
01:00:47,765 --> 01:00:52,036
a band could survive...
1148
01:00:52,069 --> 01:00:54,104
as a band, do what they loved,
1149
01:00:54,138 --> 01:00:56,441
which was playing music.
1150
01:00:56,474 --> 01:00:58,709
Man: Mick, you know Jerry,
don't you?
1151
01:00:58,743 --> 01:01:00,611
Yeah.
1152
01:01:00,645 --> 01:01:03,414
Cutler: Because of course,
the Grateful Dead had no idea
1153
01:01:03,448 --> 01:01:07,652
of what being in a major
big band actually involved.
1154
01:01:07,685 --> 01:01:10,421
I don't know man.
We've been here some time now.
1155
01:01:10,455 --> 01:01:11,622
How long have you been here?
1156
01:01:11,656 --> 01:01:13,724
Oh, upwards of a couple hours.
1157
01:01:13,758 --> 01:01:15,826
- No, no.
- Yes, really.
1158
01:01:15,860 --> 01:01:17,562
Cutler: No idea.
1159
01:01:17,595 --> 01:01:19,897
Completely naive.
1160
01:01:19,930 --> 01:01:20,998
Children.
1161
01:01:21,031 --> 01:01:23,901
Children in a man's world.
1162
01:01:23,934 --> 01:01:25,736
Peace, brother, peace.
1163
01:01:25,770 --> 01:01:27,438
But something
very interesting happened
1164
01:01:27,472 --> 01:01:29,139
at the time when I joined them,
1165
01:01:29,173 --> 01:01:31,976
not that it had anything to do
with me, I hasten to add,
1166
01:01:32,009 --> 01:01:35,212
which was that
the Grateful Dead,
1167
01:01:35,245 --> 01:01:37,915
I think, my view of it is,
1168
01:01:37,948 --> 01:01:41,552
is that they were
attempting to redefine,
1169
01:01:41,586 --> 01:01:44,154
as every generation
of American artists does,
1170
01:01:44,188 --> 01:01:47,692
what it means to be
an American artist.
1171
01:01:47,725 --> 01:01:51,228
What, in fact,
it means to be an American.
1172
01:01:51,261 --> 01:01:55,199
Artists in America constantly
struggle with this.
1173
01:01:55,232 --> 01:01:57,702
They want to define
what America is.
1174
01:01:57,735 --> 01:02:00,037
They want to discover
what America is.
1175
01:02:00,070 --> 01:02:02,807
They want to find some clue
1176
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,976
to what it means to be American.
1177
01:02:06,010 --> 01:02:10,047
Americans have got
this very, very strange
1178
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,150
and interesting preoccupation
1179
01:02:13,183 --> 01:02:17,254
with the discovery
of what constitutes America.
1180
01:02:17,287 --> 01:02:18,823
What it is.
1181
01:02:25,029 --> 01:02:27,698
In America, people leave home
1182
01:02:27,732 --> 01:02:30,868
and go out in search of America.
1183
01:02:33,070 --> 01:02:35,740
People in England don't set out
1184
01:02:35,773 --> 01:02:40,511
and leave home and go
in search of England.
1185
01:02:40,545 --> 01:02:42,146
That would be quite
preposterous.
1186
01:02:42,179 --> 01:02:46,050
♪ Well, the first days
are the hardest days ♪
1187
01:02:46,083 --> 01:02:49,654
♪ Don't you worry any more
1188
01:02:49,687 --> 01:02:52,790
♪ 'Cause when life looks
like easy street ♪
1189
01:02:52,823 --> 01:02:56,226
♪ There is danger at your door ♪
1190
01:02:56,260 --> 01:02:58,095
Hart:
We were living in the Haight,
1191
01:02:58,128 --> 01:03:01,031
and it was getting hot for us.
1192
01:03:01,065 --> 01:03:04,869
There were buses coming
by the house...
1193
01:03:04,902 --> 01:03:06,537
You know, tourist buses.
1194
01:03:06,571 --> 01:03:09,073
This is the home
of the Grateful Dead.
1195
01:03:09,106 --> 01:03:10,708
The feared.
1196
01:03:10,741 --> 01:03:14,912
...the world which they live in,
they take many trips,
1197
01:03:14,945 --> 01:03:17,715
and the trip of the hippies...
1198
01:03:17,748 --> 01:03:20,150
Hart: And, so we felt like,
you know,
1199
01:03:20,184 --> 01:03:22,553
it's time to get out of town.
1200
01:03:22,587 --> 01:03:24,689
So I was the first one
to move out of the city,
1201
01:03:24,722 --> 01:03:27,291
and I went to a place
in the country.
1202
01:03:27,324 --> 01:03:29,660
Everybody started coming out
one by one.
1203
01:03:29,694 --> 01:03:32,630
And, you know, within
a short amount of time,
1204
01:03:32,663 --> 01:03:35,766
everybody started becoming
psychedelic cowboys.
1205
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,669
♪ Goddamn, well, I declare
1206
01:03:38,703 --> 01:03:41,038
♪ Have you seen the like?
1207
01:03:41,071 --> 01:03:42,907
And we loved it in the country.
1208
01:03:42,940 --> 01:03:45,876
Loved the trees, loved the
wood, loved nature.
1209
01:03:45,910 --> 01:03:49,079
♪ Their motto is
don't tread on me ♪
1210
01:03:49,113 --> 01:03:52,817
We were learning about
everything that is wild.
1211
01:03:52,850 --> 01:03:54,018
These are wild sounds.
1212
01:03:58,756 --> 01:04:00,758
And so, it started
to effect the music.
1213
01:04:00,791 --> 01:04:02,860
♪ To take his children home
1214
01:04:02,893 --> 01:04:05,863
We were discovering what
Grateful Dead music could be.
1215
01:04:05,896 --> 01:04:08,065
♪ Candyman
1216
01:04:08,098 --> 01:04:13,103
♪ Here he come
and he's gone again ♪
1217
01:04:13,137 --> 01:04:16,774
♪ Pretty lady
ain't got no friend ♪
1218
01:04:16,807 --> 01:04:25,049
♪ Till the Candyman
comes around again ♪
1219
01:04:25,082 --> 01:04:26,717
You're going out of tune a lot.
1220
01:04:26,751 --> 01:04:28,686
A bunch.
1221
01:04:28,719 --> 01:04:30,621
Sing it out, man.
1222
01:04:30,655 --> 01:04:32,990
I mean, don't sing it loud,
but sing it out.
1223
01:04:33,023 --> 01:04:35,325
Garcia: When it came time
to do Workingman's Dead
1224
01:04:35,359 --> 01:04:36,994
and American Beauty, really,
1225
01:04:37,027 --> 01:04:39,063
that's really kind
of one long record.
1226
01:04:39,096 --> 01:04:42,733
I talked to the guys and said,
"Why don't we approach this one
1227
01:04:42,767 --> 01:04:45,235
"as though it were, like,
a country and western record,
1228
01:04:45,269 --> 01:04:47,872
"or like California
country and western,
1229
01:04:47,905 --> 01:04:49,206
you know like, Bakersfield."
1230
01:04:49,239 --> 01:04:52,109
♪ And is gone again
1231
01:04:52,142 --> 01:04:54,979
"And why don't we put
more energy into the vocals
1232
01:04:55,012 --> 01:04:58,382
"and making the vocals sound
as good as they can
1233
01:04:58,415 --> 01:05:01,385
and not getting hung up on
the instrumental surroundings?"
1234
01:05:05,289 --> 01:05:07,692
It's off a little.
1235
01:05:07,725 --> 01:05:09,727
Take a big breath
but those notes sound.
1236
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:11,328
No, no, no.
Hold that D on, against...
1237
01:05:11,361 --> 01:05:13,063
I don't care how you hold it.
1238
01:05:13,097 --> 01:05:14,732
No it's not.
That's not why it's hard.
1239
01:05:14,765 --> 01:05:17,267
It's hard to hold the D
against the slide.
1240
01:05:17,301 --> 01:05:19,069
Why?
1241
01:05:19,103 --> 01:05:20,380
Don't hold it against the slide.
1242
01:05:20,404 --> 01:05:23,173
- Hold it against his G.
- Hmm.
1243
01:05:23,207 --> 01:05:27,411
It's really weird if you don't
slide at the same velocity.
1244
01:05:27,444 --> 01:05:29,013
You know...
1245
01:05:29,046 --> 01:05:31,916
♪ Again
1246
01:05:31,949 --> 01:05:34,318
Two, three, four.
1247
01:05:34,351 --> 01:05:38,188
♪ Again
1248
01:05:38,222 --> 01:05:39,957
Whoo-hoo.
1249
01:05:39,990 --> 01:05:41,902
Garcia: We were deeply
in debt to the record company
1250
01:05:41,926 --> 01:05:43,994
because of our
huge studio costs.
1251
01:05:44,028 --> 01:05:47,397
We thought, "This time, let's go
in and make a record the easy way.
1252
01:05:47,431 --> 01:05:50,434
"Let's have the material
written and rehearsed
1253
01:05:50,467 --> 01:05:53,203
"and record it as quickly
as we possibly can.
1254
01:05:53,237 --> 01:05:55,205
"And you know,
1255
01:05:55,239 --> 01:05:58,042
"let's go after a light touch,
1256
01:05:58,075 --> 01:06:01,478
"rather than complex
psychedelic fantasies.
1257
01:06:01,511 --> 01:06:03,781
"You know, let's,
let's try painting
1258
01:06:03,814 --> 01:06:05,716
a simple picture, you know."
1259
01:06:05,750 --> 01:06:10,420
♪ Come on boys and gamble
1260
01:06:10,454 --> 01:06:15,425
♪ Roll those laughing bones
1261
01:06:15,459 --> 01:06:19,764
♪ Seven come eleven
1262
01:06:19,797 --> 01:06:28,205
♪ Boys, I'll take
your money home ♪
1263
01:06:28,238 --> 01:06:30,274
♪ Look out look out
the Candyman ♪
1264
01:06:30,307 --> 01:06:34,779
So, we actually went about it
with that in mind.
1265
01:06:34,812 --> 01:06:37,447
With the idea of making it a
simple record.
1266
01:06:37,481 --> 01:06:41,085
And, yeah, it worked out good.
+Lt worked out good.
1267
01:06:41,118 --> 01:06:45,956
♪ Pretty lady
ain't got no friend ♪
1268
01:06:45,990 --> 01:06:47,357
♪ Till
1269
01:06:47,391 --> 01:06:53,230
♪ Candyman comes around again
1270
01:07:11,949 --> 01:07:15,152
Smith: I remember
I was in my office,
1271
01:07:15,185 --> 01:07:19,957
and somebody said,
"The Grateful Dead are here."
1272
01:07:19,990 --> 01:07:21,325
And they came in,
1273
01:07:21,358 --> 01:07:24,028
and just flat expressions,
1274
01:07:24,061 --> 01:07:25,462
no thing like that.
1275
01:07:25,495 --> 01:07:27,031
I said, "What's up?"
1276
01:07:27,064 --> 01:07:28,508
He says, "You know,
we finished the record."
1277
01:07:28,532 --> 01:07:30,467
I said, "Great,
when are we going to hear it?"
1278
01:07:30,500 --> 01:07:33,303
He says, "Well, right now."
Boom. "Casey Jones."
1279
01:07:33,337 --> 01:07:36,540
♪ Ridin' that train
high on cocaine ♪
1280
01:07:36,573 --> 01:07:38,843
♪ Driving that train
1281
01:07:38,876 --> 01:07:41,211
♪ High on cocaine
1282
01:07:41,245 --> 01:07:43,914
♪ Casey Jones you better
1283
01:07:43,948 --> 01:07:46,083
♪ Watch your speed
1284
01:07:46,116 --> 01:07:49,486
It was a home run
with two great singles,
1285
01:07:49,519 --> 01:07:51,989
and it was called
Workingman's Dead.
1286
01:07:52,022 --> 01:07:53,457
Man: Workingman's Dead,
1287
01:07:53,490 --> 01:07:55,392
the newest from Jerry,
Phil, Bob, Bill,
1288
01:07:55,425 --> 01:07:57,261
Mickey, and Pigpen.
1289
01:07:57,294 --> 01:07:59,396
Ready now on Warner Brothers'
albums and tapes.
1290
01:07:59,429 --> 01:08:03,467
♪ Come hear Uncle John's band
1291
01:08:03,500 --> 01:08:07,204
♪ By the riverside
1292
01:08:07,237 --> 01:08:10,574
♪ Got some things
to talk about ♪
1293
01:08:10,607 --> 01:08:15,045
♪ Here beside the rising tide
1294
01:08:15,079 --> 01:08:18,849
♪ Come hear Uncle John's band
1295
01:08:18,883 --> 01:08:21,618
♪ Playing to the tide
1296
01:08:21,651 --> 01:08:23,553
Smith:
They were writing melodies,
1297
01:08:23,587 --> 01:08:26,590
and it was songs that
you could make sense out of.
1298
01:08:26,623 --> 01:08:29,526
And it was a great,
great record.
1299
01:08:32,096 --> 01:08:35,565
I told them I wanted
to send them out on a tour.
1300
01:08:35,599 --> 01:08:41,438
And I said, "We'll take
big ads in trade papers."
1301
01:08:41,471 --> 01:08:43,607
And we even did a commercial.
1302
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,043
Man: Yes, friends, America's
hardest working rock band
1303
01:08:46,076 --> 01:08:48,078
now presents Workingman's Dead,
1304
01:08:48,112 --> 01:08:51,015
an album of country-flavored
tunes by the Grateful Dead,
1305
01:08:51,048 --> 01:08:55,285
an album different from anything
they've ever done before.
1306
01:08:55,319 --> 01:08:58,655
Ready now on Warner Brothers
albums and tapes.
1307
01:08:58,688 --> 01:09:00,390
Steal it.
1308
01:09:00,424 --> 01:09:01,634
Cutler:
When Warner Brothers got.
1309
01:09:01,658 --> 01:09:02,559
Workingman's Dead,
1310
01:09:02,592 --> 01:09:06,396
they were like, "Yeah."
1311
01:09:06,430 --> 01:09:09,199
They could see a way forward,
1312
01:09:09,233 --> 01:09:10,901
out of the fog.
1313
01:09:13,971 --> 01:09:16,040
Warner Brothers was
so pleased with the album
1314
01:09:16,073 --> 01:09:17,607
they wanted them to go to Europe
1315
01:09:17,641 --> 01:09:19,176
and offered to pay for it.
1316
01:09:19,209 --> 01:09:21,645
So, we hurriedly
put it together.
1317
01:09:24,148 --> 01:09:26,550
When we got off the airplane,
1318
01:09:26,583 --> 01:09:29,019
there were these filmmakers,
1319
01:09:29,053 --> 01:09:31,088
and they'd come
to film the Grateful Dead.
1320
01:09:31,121 --> 01:09:33,423
How do you look upon
the English festivals?
1321
01:09:33,457 --> 01:09:35,325
I haven't been to one yet.
1322
01:09:35,359 --> 01:09:37,027
You've not heard
about 'em at all?
1323
01:09:37,061 --> 01:09:38,662
Oh, a little bit,
Hyde Park and so forth.
1324
01:09:38,695 --> 01:09:40,664
Cutler: Warner Brothers
thought the idea
1325
01:09:40,697 --> 01:09:42,666
of making a film
was important, you know?
1326
01:09:42,699 --> 01:09:44,634
Because at the time,
nobody even knew who
1327
01:09:44,668 --> 01:09:46,636
the fuck the Grateful Dead were.
1328
01:09:49,239 --> 01:09:50,540
Prior to the sixties,
1329
01:09:50,574 --> 01:09:52,509
the idea of making a film
1330
01:09:52,542 --> 01:09:55,079
about a specific band,
1331
01:09:55,112 --> 01:09:58,315
or a show like a Woodstock
didn't exist.
1332
01:09:58,348 --> 01:10:00,217
♪ Wild thing
1333
01:10:00,250 --> 01:10:02,586
This was a new form.
1334
01:10:02,619 --> 01:10:05,622
♪ You make my heart sing
1335
01:10:05,655 --> 01:10:07,958
And it was very successful.
1336
01:10:07,992 --> 01:10:11,361
Monterey Pop made Jimi Hendrix
and made Janis. That film.
1337
01:10:11,395 --> 01:10:15,099
Because it brought them
to a mass audience.
1338
01:10:15,132 --> 01:10:17,401
♪ Wild thing
1339
01:10:17,434 --> 01:10:20,370
But the Grateful Dead
were never really comfortable
1340
01:10:20,404 --> 01:10:22,006
with being in front
of the camera.
1341
01:10:25,075 --> 01:10:26,576
For them, you know,
1342
01:10:26,610 --> 01:10:29,146
the meta-narrative of
the Grateful Dead was that,
1343
01:10:29,179 --> 01:10:32,616
we're like you, we're freaks.
1344
01:10:32,649 --> 01:10:35,585
You know,
we're not lookin' for a job.
1345
01:10:35,619 --> 01:10:38,155
We're not lookin' for a career.
1346
01:10:38,188 --> 01:10:40,190
We're not sure what
we're fuckin' looking for.
1347
01:10:40,224 --> 01:10:43,693
In fact, we're not even sure
if we're looking for anything.
1348
01:10:43,727 --> 01:10:46,530
In fact, we don't
even know where we are.
1349
01:10:46,563 --> 01:10:48,065
Who are we?
1350
01:10:48,098 --> 01:10:50,600
We're the same as you.
1351
01:10:50,634 --> 01:10:52,069
You're the same as us.
1352
01:10:52,102 --> 01:10:54,271
There is no real distinction.
1353
01:10:56,073 --> 01:10:57,641
Six, take one. Tail slate.
1354
01:10:59,809 --> 01:11:03,013
Cutler: The camera validates
that distinction.
1355
01:11:03,047 --> 01:11:04,748
Doesn't it?
You know what I mean?
1356
01:11:04,781 --> 01:11:06,150
The camera's filming you,
you know.
1357
01:11:06,183 --> 01:11:07,293
The camera's filming you, why?
1358
01:11:07,317 --> 01:11:08,752
Because you're more important
1359
01:11:08,785 --> 01:11:10,363
than anything else that it
could film, you know.
1360
01:11:10,387 --> 01:11:13,690
And it's like this probing
kind of eye.
1361
01:11:13,723 --> 01:11:15,692
Ha, you rat.
1362
01:11:15,725 --> 01:11:18,262
I mean, it took me 18 months
to get the Grateful Dead
1363
01:11:18,295 --> 01:11:20,230
to agree to do a photograph.
1364
01:11:20,264 --> 01:11:22,799
Well, that is the gentleman
who's taking a photograph.
1365
01:11:22,832 --> 01:11:25,235
There's the camera, here.
1366
01:11:29,639 --> 01:11:32,042
I kept saying to them,
"Listen, we need a photograph.
1367
01:11:32,076 --> 01:11:34,411
"If we're going to do publicity
for the Grateful Dead,
1368
01:11:34,444 --> 01:11:36,780
we need photographs
of the Grateful Dead."
1369
01:11:36,813 --> 01:11:38,691
Garcia: Where's the fucking hotel at?
Let's go to the hotel.
1370
01:11:38,715 --> 01:11:40,617
"No, we don't do photographs."
1371
01:11:40,650 --> 01:11:42,419
We're trying
to do a group photo.
1372
01:11:42,452 --> 01:11:44,421
But, why don't you
do photographs?
1373
01:11:44,454 --> 01:11:46,656
"Well, it's not important
what we look like.
1374
01:11:46,690 --> 01:11:48,125
What's important is the music."
1375
01:11:49,826 --> 01:11:51,328
Hey! Fuck off!
1376
01:11:51,361 --> 01:11:53,530
Cutler:
Trying to promote a band
1377
01:11:53,563 --> 01:11:55,832
that doesn't want to be filmed
1378
01:11:55,865 --> 01:11:59,203
or have their picture taken
is very difficult.
1379
01:12:00,337 --> 01:12:03,573
Nice to see you today.
1380
01:12:03,607 --> 01:12:05,809
Cutler: And the people
that were sent to film them
1381
01:12:05,842 --> 01:12:07,411
weren't the right people,
were they?
1382
01:12:07,444 --> 01:12:09,779
Care for a beer?
1383
01:12:09,813 --> 01:12:11,781
Nobody had told them
or warned them,
1384
01:12:11,815 --> 01:12:16,520
don't drink anything
around the Grateful Dead.
1385
01:12:16,553 --> 01:12:18,155
Okay, cut.
1386
01:12:22,826 --> 01:12:25,795
Garcia: I remember that there
was the Playboy After Hours show.
1387
01:12:25,829 --> 01:12:27,364
Cutler:
In this time period,
1388
01:12:27,397 --> 01:12:30,100
the Grateful Dead were using LSD
1389
01:12:30,134 --> 01:12:31,601
not only to get high,
1390
01:12:31,635 --> 01:12:34,804
but also as a kind
of defense mechanism.
1391
01:12:34,838 --> 01:12:37,574
I mean, giving people LSD
when they didn't know that
1392
01:12:37,607 --> 01:12:40,544
that was what was gonna
happen to 'em.
1393
01:12:40,577 --> 01:12:43,447
Garcia: The whole thing was
just really weird, you know?
1394
01:12:43,480 --> 01:12:46,383
All the people who were at
the party are extras, you know,
1395
01:12:46,416 --> 01:12:47,784
and they're
from Central Casting.
1396
01:12:47,817 --> 01:12:49,419
You know,
and they're sitting there
1397
01:12:49,453 --> 01:12:51,131
with glasses of ginger ale
and all, you know.
1398
01:12:51,155 --> 01:12:52,398
It's laid out like an apartment,
1399
01:12:52,422 --> 01:12:53,890
but it's in a Hollywood
sound stage.
1400
01:12:53,923 --> 01:12:55,525
And there's Hugh Hefner,
you know,
1401
01:12:55,559 --> 01:12:57,227
and all these melons.
1402
01:12:57,261 --> 01:13:00,530
And, the union coffee pot there
got dosed.
1403
01:13:00,564 --> 01:13:02,542
And the whole thing turned
from an artificial party
1404
01:13:02,566 --> 01:13:03,633
into an authentic party.
1405
01:13:11,408 --> 01:13:16,146
I remember they had dosed
the coffee with acid.
1406
01:13:16,180 --> 01:13:18,215
♪ Wishing well
with a golden bell ♪
1407
01:13:18,248 --> 01:13:20,784
♪ Bucket hanging clear to hell
1408
01:13:20,817 --> 01:13:23,453
Smith: That night,
I went over to see them.
1409
01:13:23,487 --> 01:13:25,722
♪ Stephen fill it up and lower ♪
1410
01:13:25,755 --> 01:13:27,300
Smith: And they were
on a break upstairs,
1411
01:13:27,324 --> 01:13:29,226
and I came up the stairs
and there they were.
1412
01:13:29,259 --> 01:13:30,660
And Jerry gave me a hug.
1413
01:13:30,694 --> 01:13:32,162
"How ya doin'?
What's goin' on?
1414
01:13:32,196 --> 01:13:33,797
I'll get you some coffee."
1415
01:13:33,830 --> 01:13:36,166
I said, "No, no, no, no."
1416
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:42,539
♪ Speeding arrow,
sharp and narrow ♪
1417
01:13:42,572 --> 01:13:44,874
You see the situation we had.
1418
01:13:44,908 --> 01:13:47,911
I mean,
their idea of it was all fun.
1419
01:13:47,944 --> 01:13:50,547
And that's what the Dead were.
1420
01:13:50,580 --> 01:13:53,183
- Lev: Fun.
- Fun.
1421
01:13:59,823 --> 01:14:03,927
Weir: Holy Jesus. Wow.
1422
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:07,664
Cutler: The word on Garcia's
lips for four years with me was,
1423
01:14:07,697 --> 01:14:09,566
"Is it gonna be fun?"
1424
01:14:09,599 --> 01:14:11,401
Weir: Okay, this is London.
1425
01:14:11,435 --> 01:14:13,313
Cutler: I mean,
the Grateful Dead were about fun.
1426
01:14:13,337 --> 01:14:16,740
Weir: This has never been seen.
I don't know why.
1427
01:14:16,773 --> 01:14:18,208
Roll camera.
1428
01:14:18,242 --> 01:14:19,809
- "A" camera.
- "A" camera.
1429
01:14:19,843 --> 01:14:24,414
And then we'll be on our way
to Philadelphia.
1430
01:14:24,448 --> 01:14:26,592
Cutler: I mean, you can sit there
and, yeah, we're makin' a film.
1431
01:14:26,616 --> 01:14:30,320
But the film's you know, next
week, next year, who knows what.
1432
01:14:30,354 --> 01:14:32,589
But this is now.
1433
01:14:32,622 --> 01:14:34,358
Nice to see you today.
1434
01:14:34,391 --> 01:14:35,901
Cutler: They said,
so you wanna make a film?
1435
01:14:35,925 --> 01:14:37,861
Fine, you know,
we'll go for that.
1436
01:14:37,894 --> 01:14:39,529
Care for a beer?
1437
01:14:39,563 --> 01:14:41,298
Meanwhile, let's see
if you can handle this
1438
01:14:41,331 --> 01:14:43,233
while it's all goin' on,
'cause we can.
1439
01:14:43,267 --> 01:14:45,435
This is what we like to do.
So good luck.
1440
01:14:45,469 --> 01:14:47,537
- Man: We need a director.
- Okay, cut.
1441
01:14:47,571 --> 01:14:49,439
Man: Forty-nine. Take one.
Head slate.
1442
01:14:49,473 --> 01:14:51,775
This is the Grateful Dead.
1443
01:14:51,808 --> 01:14:53,410
Cutler:
So the film crew
1444
01:14:53,443 --> 01:14:55,279
slowly came under
1445
01:14:55,312 --> 01:14:56,980
the influence of psychedelics.
1446
01:14:57,013 --> 01:14:58,715
Announcer: The Grateful Dead.
1447
01:14:58,748 --> 01:15:01,885
Man: Did you get that?
What's happened?
1448
01:15:07,324 --> 01:15:09,593
♪ Driving that train
1449
01:15:09,626 --> 01:15:11,895
♪ High on cocaine
1450
01:15:11,928 --> 01:15:14,764
♪ Casey Jones you better
1451
01:15:14,798 --> 01:15:17,401
♪ Watch your speed
1452
01:15:17,434 --> 01:15:19,903
♪ Trouble ahead
1453
01:15:19,936 --> 01:15:22,506
♪ Trouble behind
1454
01:15:22,539 --> 01:15:27,444
♪ And you know that notion
just crossed my mind ♪
1455
01:15:28,912 --> 01:15:31,315
Cutler: They start off
with a very formal idea
1456
01:15:31,348 --> 01:15:33,483
of what you do to film a band,
1457
01:15:33,517 --> 01:15:37,487
and slowly it got weirder
and weirder.
1458
01:15:37,521 --> 01:15:41,024
It's not easy, you know,
to take a trip and sit there going,
1459
01:15:41,057 --> 01:15:42,759
"Now, I'm making a film here,
1460
01:15:42,792 --> 01:15:46,296
and I must ensure that
I get everything in focus."
1461
01:15:46,330 --> 01:15:48,298
All that tends to go
out the window.
1462
01:15:48,332 --> 01:15:50,467
Man: Here's roll two.
Sound, roll two.
1463
01:15:53,570 --> 01:15:55,372
They just succumbed.
1464
01:15:55,405 --> 01:15:58,508
They didn't have sufficient
psychedelic experience
1465
01:15:58,542 --> 01:16:02,045
to overcome the effect
of the acid
1466
01:16:02,078 --> 01:16:04,581
and, you know, make a film.
1467
01:16:04,614 --> 01:16:08,051
Garcia: The thing I'm talking
about is being able to handle
1468
01:16:08,084 --> 01:16:11,087
the environment that you're
operating in when you're high.
1469
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:14,090
Which is, like,
a weird place to be,
1470
01:16:14,123 --> 01:16:15,892
and it takes a while
to get into it.
1471
01:16:15,925 --> 01:16:17,394
Cutler:
Jerry was of the opinion
1472
01:16:17,427 --> 01:16:19,663
that if people get high
around your scene
1473
01:16:19,696 --> 01:16:21,731
then, you know,
they need to be looked after.
1474
01:16:21,765 --> 01:16:23,976
Man: Jerry, we haven't got a
director. We need a director.
1475
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:25,869
Garcia:
I'll tell you what it is.
1476
01:16:25,902 --> 01:16:28,372
It's the fact that these trucks
are on either side of us,
1477
01:16:28,405 --> 01:16:31,375
making it seem as though
the horizon were quite high.
1478
01:16:31,408 --> 01:16:33,343
It's kind of like being
in a valley.
1479
01:16:33,377 --> 01:16:36,580
And the human response to
being in a valley is to think
1480
01:16:36,613 --> 01:16:38,615
of "we're cornered."
1481
01:16:38,648 --> 01:16:40,817
But we're not really.
It's only an illusion
1482
01:16:40,850 --> 01:16:42,552
because of these trucks.
1483
01:16:42,586 --> 01:16:44,488
And if you step out
to where you can get
1484
01:16:44,521 --> 01:16:46,466
a little bit of air around you
so the horizon is kind of,
1485
01:16:46,490 --> 01:16:47,833
like, below the center
of your vision,
1486
01:16:47,857 --> 01:16:49,659
you'll feel much better.
1487
01:16:49,693 --> 01:16:52,095
Yeah, yeah.
1488
01:16:52,128 --> 01:16:54,364
Cutler:
He was directing these people
1489
01:16:54,398 --> 01:16:56,400
to how they could have
a better time.
1490
01:16:56,433 --> 01:16:59,068
That's it, man.
That's all I know.
1491
01:16:59,102 --> 01:17:03,473
Cutler: And I think that was
the protective armor at work.
1492
01:17:03,507 --> 01:17:06,410
Garcia sabotaged the film,
in essence.
1493
01:17:06,443 --> 01:17:08,645
Hey, you guys can...
You also must remember
1494
01:17:08,678 --> 01:17:13,750
that at any moment you can put
down your equipment and split.
1495
01:17:13,783 --> 01:17:17,020
Cutler: And, in the end,
the crew started to film themselves
1496
01:17:17,053 --> 01:17:19,389
instead of the band.
1497
01:17:26,763 --> 01:17:28,932
One guy, I noticed him,
1498
01:17:28,965 --> 01:17:31,100
it was like he
was shootin' a gun.
1499
01:17:31,134 --> 01:17:33,002
He kept on triggering
the camera,
1500
01:17:33,036 --> 01:17:36,973
It was like little shots.
Boom, boom, boom.
1501
01:17:37,006 --> 01:17:38,908
In fact, if you give acid
to people
1502
01:17:38,942 --> 01:17:41,845
and you ask them to paint
or do creative things,
1503
01:17:41,878 --> 01:17:45,982
they mostly produce
absolute chaos.
1504
01:17:46,015 --> 01:17:47,684
Are you getting emotional again?
1505
01:17:49,819 --> 01:17:51,187
The synapses or whatever
1506
01:17:51,220 --> 01:17:55,124
are suddenly speeded up,
massively so.
1507
01:17:55,158 --> 01:17:57,527
And so, all of the sudden you
can see a connection between
1508
01:17:57,561 --> 01:17:59,138
what's immediately
in front of your eyes,
1509
01:17:59,162 --> 01:18:01,030
and something else
that wasn't apparent.
1510
01:18:02,732 --> 01:18:06,636
What was hitherto coherent
becomes incoherent.
1511
01:18:06,670 --> 01:18:08,805
They know that they're trying
to make a film,
1512
01:18:08,838 --> 01:18:12,008
but now, what's going on in
their heads is, like,
1513
01:18:12,041 --> 01:18:15,712
super fast episodic shit,
you know?
1514
01:18:15,745 --> 01:18:17,747
Like, it's this, it's that;
it's this, it's that;
1515
01:18:17,781 --> 01:18:18,982
it's this, it's that.
1516
01:18:19,015 --> 01:18:21,017
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
1517
01:18:21,050 --> 01:18:23,553
boom, boom.
1518
01:18:23,587 --> 01:18:25,755
And then, it just disintegrates.
1519
01:18:32,195 --> 01:18:36,065
It's interesting, isn't it,
to look back on it, you know?
1520
01:18:36,099 --> 01:18:38,602
How far out the
Grateful Dead actually were
1521
01:18:38,635 --> 01:18:40,737
at that stage in their journey.
1522
01:18:43,673 --> 01:18:45,775
I mean,
that was their sacred space.
1523
01:18:45,809 --> 01:18:48,778
Music for the Grateful Dead
was a very sacred thing,
1524
01:18:48,812 --> 01:18:50,780
you know what I mean?
1525
01:18:50,814 --> 01:18:53,216
Not to be interfered with by me
1526
01:18:53,249 --> 01:18:55,919
or anybody else for that matter.
1527
01:18:57,754 --> 01:18:59,789
Garcia: Sure man,
that's what playing is about.
1528
01:18:59,823 --> 01:19:01,701
That's what performing is
about for us, you know?
1529
01:19:01,725 --> 01:19:04,027
See, music should be
that sort of thing.
1530
01:19:04,060 --> 01:19:06,730
Music should be holy.
It shouldn't be business.
1531
01:19:09,098 --> 01:19:11,735
And because music
is business here,
1532
01:19:11,768 --> 01:19:13,703
it's awful,
1533
01:19:13,737 --> 01:19:15,238
'cause it's designed
to make money,
1534
01:19:15,271 --> 01:19:17,641
not designed to do
what music's supposed to do.
1535
01:19:20,544 --> 01:19:22,746
Cutler: So, in the end,
the film never happened.
1536
01:19:26,816 --> 01:19:29,853
The remains get boxed up
and forgotten about.
1537
01:19:32,756 --> 01:19:35,692
It's almost like
a subliminal desire
1538
01:19:35,725 --> 01:19:37,627
not to be successful,
1539
01:19:37,661 --> 01:19:41,097
which actually redounded
to their benefit and credit.
1540
01:19:43,633 --> 01:19:47,003
They worried that, you know,
the more famous they were,
1541
01:19:47,036 --> 01:19:49,272
the less room for movement
they would have.
1542
01:19:51,908 --> 01:19:53,242
And they were dead right.
1543
01:20:10,863 --> 01:20:12,865
Prankster:
It's almost working.
1544
01:20:12,898 --> 01:20:15,167
I think that it is now working.
1545
01:20:19,138 --> 01:20:23,208
Prankster: Yay!
We're back on the air again.
1546
01:20:23,242 --> 01:20:25,044
Woo-woo!
1547
01:20:27,913 --> 01:20:32,117
And, Gunther, your child is at
the child care kiddie center.
1548
01:20:32,151 --> 01:20:34,053
Your child's name
is Carl, Gunther,
1549
01:20:34,086 --> 01:20:35,554
if you've forgotten about him.
1550
01:20:37,923 --> 01:20:41,560
All little kiddies that
are hurt and sick and lost,
1551
01:20:41,593 --> 01:20:44,830
over to the kiddie corral
for their gathering.
1552
01:20:44,864 --> 01:20:47,900
Here he is now with the report
on the... our water situation,
1553
01:20:47,933 --> 01:20:50,402
uh, which has become
very dry in the area,
1554
01:20:50,435 --> 01:20:53,472
with probably another three
hours to go with the intensity.
1555
01:20:53,505 --> 01:20:56,075
So there's gonna be, uh,
according to his report,
1556
01:20:56,108 --> 01:20:57,309
as they get it going,
1557
01:20:57,342 --> 01:20:59,111
a fire truck will
move slowly along there,
1558
01:20:59,144 --> 01:21:00,846
and spray out from its nozzle.
1559
01:21:13,092 --> 01:21:14,860
So here you go,
the Grateful Dead.
1560
01:21:31,944 --> 01:21:35,514
Dennis McNally:
Jerry regarded every day
1561
01:21:35,547 --> 01:21:38,317
that he didn't have to
go out and find a job
1562
01:21:38,350 --> 01:21:40,285
as a miracle.
1563
01:21:42,187 --> 01:21:46,458
And as they looked up
in the early '70s,
1564
01:21:46,491 --> 01:21:50,329
the Grateful Dead were
kind of mildly amazed
1565
01:21:50,362 --> 01:21:52,397
that they had an audience.
1566
01:21:52,431 --> 01:21:55,134
That it had grown.
1567
01:21:55,167 --> 01:22:00,239
And they found that
if they just kept touring,
1568
01:22:00,272 --> 01:22:02,007
they could make a living.
1569
01:22:02,041 --> 01:22:05,277
It wasn't a fancy living,
it was just a living.
1570
01:22:07,179 --> 01:22:09,982
♪ All I know is something
1571
01:22:10,015 --> 01:22:14,119
♪ Like a bird within her sang ♪
1572
01:22:20,325 --> 01:22:22,928
♪ All I know she sang
1573
01:22:22,962 --> 01:22:26,966
♪ A little while
and then flew on ♪
1574
01:22:33,105 --> 01:22:36,575
♪ Tell me all that you know ♪
1575
01:22:36,608 --> 01:22:39,511
♪ I'll show you
1576
01:22:39,544 --> 01:22:42,381
♪ Snow and rain
1577
01:22:44,616 --> 01:22:45,693
Phil Lesh: I think that
one of the best things
1578
01:22:45,717 --> 01:22:48,153
the Grateful Dead ever did
1579
01:22:48,187 --> 01:22:54,126
was deciding in essence that we
weren't gonna become recording artists.
1580
01:22:54,159 --> 01:22:58,230
You know, that we weren't
gonna be pop stars.
1581
01:22:58,263 --> 01:23:02,467
I really don't believe any of
us ever gave a shit about that.
1582
01:23:02,501 --> 01:23:04,603
We were a working band
and we were gonna...
1583
01:23:04,636 --> 01:23:07,506
We're gonna... we're gonna go
out and bring this to people,
1584
01:23:07,539 --> 01:23:10,976
bring this music to people,
and bring 'em together.
1585
01:23:11,010 --> 01:23:13,712
I think that, uh...
That kind of freed us up
1586
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:17,582
to not be afraid
to make a mistake.
1587
01:23:25,390 --> 01:23:28,293
Jerry Garcia: We make an
effort to... to play honestly,
1588
01:23:28,327 --> 01:23:31,163
rather than put on a...
Some sort of packaged, uh,
1589
01:23:31,196 --> 01:23:33,532
pre-arranged,
pre-determined show.
1590
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:37,436
We don't bring
a set list on stage.
1591
01:23:37,469 --> 01:23:39,638
We don't plan things.
1592
01:23:39,671 --> 01:23:41,040
We want it to be more dynamic.
1593
01:23:41,073 --> 01:23:42,083
We want it to be more exciting.
1594
01:23:42,107 --> 01:23:43,408
We want it to be unexpected.
1595
01:23:43,442 --> 01:23:45,577
We want there to be
surprises there.
1596
01:23:45,610 --> 01:23:48,580
We want the people to feel they're
participating in it, you know?
1597
01:23:48,613 --> 01:23:52,351
And it... If you approach
music from that point of view,
1598
01:23:52,384 --> 01:23:55,054
it becomes a very
rich experience.
1599
01:24:03,828 --> 01:24:05,764
Dennis McNally:
Committing to improvisation...
1600
01:24:05,797 --> 01:24:09,168
Wholly committing to
improvisation...
1601
01:24:09,201 --> 01:24:11,770
Implies taking risks.
1602
01:24:14,573 --> 01:24:18,777
It's a philosophy of leaving
yourself open to possibility,
1603
01:24:18,810 --> 01:24:20,745
and leaving yourself
open to magic.
1604
01:24:28,153 --> 01:24:29,821
Donna Jean Godchaux:
My husband and I,
1605
01:24:29,854 --> 01:24:33,725
we had been seeing the Grateful
Dead whenever we could.
1606
01:24:33,758 --> 01:24:36,461
Total fans.
1607
01:24:36,495 --> 01:24:42,234
I was a singer and Keith was
a trained classical pianist.
1608
01:24:44,269 --> 01:24:46,371
I came home one day and said,
1609
01:24:46,405 --> 01:24:49,674
"Let's listen to
the Grateful Dead."
1610
01:24:49,708 --> 01:24:51,243
And Keith said,
1611
01:24:51,276 --> 01:24:54,546
"I don't wanna
listen to it anymore.
1612
01:24:54,579 --> 01:24:56,848
"I want to play it."
1613
01:24:56,881 --> 01:24:59,251
He had never played
rock and roll before.
1614
01:25:01,486 --> 01:25:03,288
And I said,
1615
01:25:03,322 --> 01:25:06,791
"Okay, well, let's go
get in the band."
1616
01:25:10,462 --> 01:25:11,830
I mean, it was
as simple as that.
1617
01:25:11,863 --> 01:25:13,798
That sounds so...
1618
01:25:13,832 --> 01:25:15,310
I don't know what
it sounds like to you,
1619
01:25:15,334 --> 01:25:19,438
but at that time
it was just normal.
1620
01:25:19,471 --> 01:25:21,773
And that's why I had
the audacity
1621
01:25:21,806 --> 01:25:24,543
to come up to Garcia
after a show and say,
1622
01:25:24,576 --> 01:25:26,411
"Keith is your next
keyboard player."
1623
01:25:27,746 --> 01:25:29,281
♪ Some folks trust to reason ♪
1624
01:25:29,314 --> 01:25:30,549
♪ Others trust to might
1625
01:25:30,582 --> 01:25:31,759
Donna Jean Godchaux:
Just like that.
1626
01:25:31,783 --> 01:25:33,318
♪ I don't trust to nothing
1627
01:25:33,352 --> 01:25:34,729
Donna Jean Godchaux:
Keith was in the band.
1628
01:25:34,753 --> 01:25:35,896
♪ But I know...
Let's do it again.
1629
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:37,856
One more time.
1630
01:25:37,889 --> 01:25:39,334
Jerry Garcia: Donna.
Where's Donna? Where's Donna?
1631
01:25:39,358 --> 01:25:41,193
- Come here.
- We're gonna do...
1632
01:25:41,226 --> 01:25:43,195
We're gonna do "Playin'
in The Band" again.
1633
01:25:43,228 --> 01:25:45,140
Donna Jean Godchaux: And then
I started rehearsing with them,
1634
01:25:45,164 --> 01:25:48,333
and it was just like unreal.
1635
01:25:48,367 --> 01:25:50,302
I was getting to be
a part of it.
1636
01:25:56,341 --> 01:26:00,645
I mean, I would go
anywhere to see these guys,
1637
01:26:00,679 --> 01:26:03,748
and yet, I am singing
with this band.
1638
01:26:03,782 --> 01:26:09,754
♪ Oh-oh, yeah
1639
01:26:14,293 --> 01:26:16,628
♪ Playin'
1640
01:26:16,661 --> 01:26:19,398
♪ Playin' in the band
1641
01:26:19,431 --> 01:26:21,300
♪ Daybreak
1642
01:26:21,333 --> 01:26:24,269
♪ Daybreak on the land
1643
01:26:24,303 --> 01:26:26,338
♪ Playin'
1644
01:26:26,371 --> 01:26:28,273
♪ Playin' in the band
1645
01:26:28,307 --> 01:26:29,908
♪ Daybreak
1646
01:26:29,941 --> 01:26:33,678
Donna Jean Godchaux: You
know, to this day, I marvel
1647
01:26:33,712 --> 01:26:37,349
that it can be that inclusive.
1648
01:26:38,483 --> 01:26:40,519
♪ Daybreak
1649
01:26:40,552 --> 01:26:42,754
♪ Wanna play in the band
1650
01:26:44,856 --> 01:26:47,526
Donna Jean Godchaux: We're
all playing in the band,
1651
01:26:47,559 --> 01:26:49,628
all of us.
1652
01:26:49,661 --> 01:26:51,830
If you were in the audience,
1653
01:26:51,863 --> 01:26:56,501
you were included
in the experience.
1654
01:26:56,535 --> 01:26:58,537
You know, I'm a fan,
1655
01:26:58,570 --> 01:27:02,541
and now, I have
the best seat in the house.
1656
01:27:03,975 --> 01:27:07,346
It was a magical thing,
that's all I can say.
1657
01:27:09,348 --> 01:27:11,416
Steve Parish:
Being a fan of the band,
1658
01:27:11,450 --> 01:27:15,554
which I was originally before
I even started working for 'em,
1659
01:27:15,587 --> 01:27:19,758
I represent a guy who
crossed over the barrier
1660
01:27:19,791 --> 01:27:24,329
into that world,
into the heart of it.
1661
01:27:25,730 --> 01:27:27,932
There was no other band
like the Grateful Dead,
1662
01:27:27,966 --> 01:27:32,337
and there was no other crew like
the Grateful Dead's equipment crew.
1663
01:27:33,638 --> 01:27:35,540
We all slept with
the same women.
1664
01:27:35,574 --> 01:27:38,610
We all got messed up together.
1665
01:27:38,643 --> 01:27:41,713
We knew everything
about each other.
1666
01:27:41,746 --> 01:27:44,849
It was not a normal relationship
1667
01:27:44,883 --> 01:27:46,751
between a band and a crew.
1668
01:27:46,785 --> 01:27:50,822
You ever watch the movie
"Air Force"?
1669
01:27:50,855 --> 01:27:53,592
You know, World War II,
1670
01:27:53,625 --> 01:27:56,361
and they would always
show these bombers,
1671
01:27:56,395 --> 01:27:57,796
and the guys would be
in the bomber,
1672
01:27:57,829 --> 01:27:59,331
and there was
a guy from Brooklyn,
1673
01:27:59,364 --> 01:28:00,865
and there was
a guy from Montana,
1674
01:28:00,899 --> 01:28:04,469
and there was
a guy from Chicago.
1675
01:28:04,503 --> 01:28:05,770
That's how it was, kind of.
1676
01:28:08,006 --> 01:28:10,809
They were really what you
would call the wild bunch,
1677
01:28:10,842 --> 01:28:13,312
they were older than me.
1678
01:28:13,345 --> 01:28:15,480
Sparky, Kidd,
1679
01:28:15,514 --> 01:28:19,784
there was Jackson and Ramrod,
and Johnny Hagen.
1680
01:28:19,818 --> 01:28:22,721
These guys were real cowboys.
1681
01:28:24,723 --> 01:28:27,492
Jackson was quick
with his fists.
1682
01:28:27,526 --> 01:28:32,464
He had this sense about him
where he would knock a cop out.
1683
01:28:32,497 --> 01:28:36,735
And Ramrod, he never read
a book in his life.
1684
01:28:36,768 --> 01:28:39,971
He told me he read
two pages of "Tom Sawyer."
1685
01:28:40,004 --> 01:28:43,642
I would literally read to him,
you know, and he liked that.
1686
01:28:46,511 --> 01:28:50,849
When Jackson and Ramrod told me
how they had met in reform school,
1687
01:28:50,882 --> 01:28:52,551
I realized that I had
1688
01:28:52,584 --> 01:28:55,320
a common brotherhood of
wildness with these guys.
1689
01:28:55,354 --> 01:28:58,823
They were the country version
of the city boy that I was.
1690
01:29:15,006 --> 01:29:18,109
Steve Parish: We began
to embrace this lifestyle
1691
01:29:18,142 --> 01:29:20,845
of all for one and one for all.
1692
01:29:23,682 --> 01:29:27,852
We always had that feeling
in the Grateful Dead,
1693
01:29:27,886 --> 01:29:31,590
mostly emanating out of Jerry,
and all of the guys,
1694
01:29:31,623 --> 01:29:34,493
that we were intricately
a part of it,
1695
01:29:34,526 --> 01:29:38,730
helping them get down the
road and to create the music.
1696
01:29:38,763 --> 01:29:42,567
♪ I can't stay
much longer, Melinda ♪
1697
01:29:42,601 --> 01:29:46,738
♪ The sun is getting high
1698
01:29:46,771 --> 01:29:50,542
♪ I can't help you
with your trouble ♪
1699
01:29:50,575 --> 01:29:55,380
♪ If you won't help with mine ♪
1700
01:29:55,414 --> 01:29:57,449
♪ I gotta get down
1701
01:29:57,482 --> 01:29:59,050
♪ I gotta get down
1702
01:29:59,083 --> 01:30:01,420
♪ I gotta get down to
1703
01:30:01,453 --> 01:30:04,956
♪ To the mine
1704
01:30:06,825 --> 01:30:08,102
Sam Cutler: The Grateful
Dead's equipment crew
1705
01:30:08,126 --> 01:30:11,630
were famously, um...
belligerent.
1706
01:30:13,565 --> 01:30:16,768
But, I mean...
1707
01:30:16,801 --> 01:30:19,704
we always got on well.
1708
01:30:19,738 --> 01:30:21,973
I didn't stand any bullshit.
1709
01:30:22,006 --> 01:30:25,109
Nobody stood any bullshit
from anyone.
1710
01:30:25,143 --> 01:30:26,711
They were expected to, you know,
1711
01:30:26,745 --> 01:30:29,047
work like dogs and they did.
1712
01:30:38,823 --> 01:30:42,427
Steve Parish: To have this
opportunity to work with this band,
1713
01:30:42,461 --> 01:30:44,563
to do this thing,
1714
01:30:44,596 --> 01:30:47,666
you realize that you were
caught up in something
1715
01:30:47,699 --> 01:30:48,967
that was bigger than you.
1716
01:30:50,702 --> 01:30:52,112
When I was a kid,
my father would say,
1717
01:30:52,136 --> 01:30:53,805
"Do I gotta
hit you over the head
1718
01:30:53,838 --> 01:30:55,474
"with a bag of pennies every day
1719
01:30:55,507 --> 01:30:57,442
"to knock some sense
into your head?"
1720
01:30:57,476 --> 01:30:59,544
I knew what he meant.
1721
01:30:59,578 --> 01:31:01,846
Because if you don't take
that opportunity...
1722
01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:03,615
If you don't take it
and use it...
1723
01:31:03,648 --> 01:31:06,184
You're wasting something.
1724
01:31:06,217 --> 01:31:09,721
What does the skull with
the lightening bolt represent?
1725
01:31:09,754 --> 01:31:13,892
It meant, bang, man,
you got enlightenment.
1726
01:31:13,925 --> 01:31:17,128
And you're gonna use it
to change the world.
1727
01:31:21,733 --> 01:31:23,001
We were exploring Europe.
1728
01:31:26,037 --> 01:31:28,840
We were going to
all these amazing places
1729
01:31:28,873 --> 01:31:32,877
in the history of my life
I couldn't believe.
1730
01:31:32,911 --> 01:31:36,180
And for me, as a kid
coming from New York City,
1731
01:31:36,214 --> 01:31:38,216
this was incredible.
1732
01:31:38,249 --> 01:31:42,821
♪ Gone are the days
when the ox fall down ♪
1733
01:31:42,854 --> 01:31:47,225
♪ Take up the yoke and
plow the fields around ♪
1734
01:31:47,258 --> 01:31:51,863
♪ Gone are the days when
the ladies said please ♪
1735
01:31:51,896 --> 01:31:55,767
♪ Gentle Jack Jones
won't you come to me ♪
1736
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:58,870
Steve Parish:
We were taking LSD every day.
1737
01:31:58,903 --> 01:32:02,674
And the LSD that Ramrod...
God rest his soul...
1738
01:32:02,707 --> 01:32:05,076
Had mixed up,
we only took one bottle
1739
01:32:05,109 --> 01:32:08,980
because we had to go through
customs constantly.
1740
01:32:09,013 --> 01:32:11,550
That one bottle,
he had made a mistake of,
1741
01:32:11,583 --> 01:32:15,920
and he didn't realize that it was ten
times stronger than what we took at home.
1742
01:32:15,954 --> 01:32:21,693
And so it made for really an
intense, intense psychedelic trip.
1743
01:32:21,726 --> 01:32:25,830
♪ Brown-eyed women
and red grenadine ♪
1744
01:32:25,864 --> 01:32:30,602
♪ The bottle was dusty
but the liquor was clean ♪
1745
01:32:30,635 --> 01:32:34,906
♪ Sound of the thunder
with the rain pourin' down ♪
1746
01:32:34,939 --> 01:32:39,911
♪ And it looks like
the old man's gettin' on ♪
1747
01:32:39,944 --> 01:32:43,682
Magical stuff was
constantly happening in '72.
1748
01:32:43,715 --> 01:32:45,617
Stuff that I... to this day...
1749
01:32:45,650 --> 01:32:48,152
I almost can't explain.
1750
01:32:48,186 --> 01:32:50,221
And they were pushing us
into the light,
1751
01:32:50,254 --> 01:32:51,690
and the light was bright.
1752
01:32:57,095 --> 01:33:00,899
♪ Well my mama told me,
my papa told me too ♪
1753
01:33:02,967 --> 01:33:06,938
♪ Now my mama told me,
papa told me too ♪
1754
01:33:08,707 --> 01:33:10,174
♪ Well I shouldn't be here
1755
01:33:10,208 --> 01:33:14,278
♪ Tryin' to sing these
railroad blues ♪
1756
01:33:14,312 --> 01:33:15,780
Steve Parish:
We spent all that time
1757
01:33:15,814 --> 01:33:17,816
on the buses together, laughing.
1758
01:33:17,849 --> 01:33:19,818
We brought our girlfriends,
we brought kids,
1759
01:33:19,851 --> 01:33:21,753
we brought 50 people with us.
1760
01:33:26,057 --> 01:33:29,327
Before you came,
I was all alone.
1761
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:31,696
It is bad to be alone.
1762
01:33:31,730 --> 01:33:35,900
Alone, bad.
1763
01:33:35,934 --> 01:33:37,969
Friend, good.
1764
01:33:38,002 --> 01:33:40,972
Man: We are friends, you and I.
1765
01:33:41,005 --> 01:33:42,373
Monster: Good.
1766
01:33:42,406 --> 01:33:44,342
- Friends.
- Friends.
1767
01:33:47,211 --> 01:33:49,648
Joe Smith: They
traveled in the phalanx.
1768
01:33:49,681 --> 01:33:53,284
Like a baby's soccer game,
you know, the swarm.
1769
01:33:53,317 --> 01:33:58,222
Friends, wives,
women nursing babies.
1770
01:33:58,256 --> 01:34:02,126
And it was how to get by
on $50,000 a day in Europe.
1771
01:34:38,196 --> 01:34:42,667
Joe Smith: They'd have a truck
there recording an album.
1772
01:34:42,701 --> 01:34:45,369
I said it's got to be
a double album.
1773
01:34:45,403 --> 01:34:47,338
I got to get a shot to
get back the money
1774
01:34:47,371 --> 01:34:49,908
you're spending on all this.
1775
01:34:49,941 --> 01:34:53,044
Dennis "Wiz" Leonard: One of the names
that was considered for the album
1776
01:34:53,077 --> 01:34:56,080
was Back Home Broke...
1777
01:34:56,114 --> 01:34:58,116
'Cause it was true,
you know, they had blown it.
1778
01:34:59,984 --> 01:35:01,419
Sam Cutler:
Dennis Leonard,
1779
01:35:01,452 --> 01:35:04,455
Dennis "Wizard" Leonard,
was a Deadhead
1780
01:35:04,488 --> 01:35:08,993
before joining the Grateful
Dead on the Europe '72 tour,
1781
01:35:09,027 --> 01:35:12,330
and he was responsible for
the recording of all the shows.
1782
01:35:12,363 --> 01:35:14,866
We recorded everything.
1783
01:35:14,899 --> 01:35:16,110
Because somehow or other,
you know,
1784
01:35:16,134 --> 01:35:17,414
I mean,
the bills had to be paid.
1785
01:35:20,138 --> 01:35:24,042
And so the Grateful Dead owed
Warner Brothers a record.
1786
01:35:31,349 --> 01:35:34,152
Dennis "Wiz" Leonard: I sat
in front of the multi-track.
1787
01:35:34,185 --> 01:35:38,189
MM 1000 Ampex machine.
Gorgeous machine.
1788
01:35:38,222 --> 01:35:41,359
And, my world was
this little truck
1789
01:35:41,392 --> 01:35:44,963
where I basically rode levels,
watched the meters,
1790
01:35:44,996 --> 01:35:49,333
and essentially evaluated
what they were doing.
1791
01:35:49,367 --> 01:35:53,504
If you look at the tape boxes,
that's where I put my notes.
1792
01:35:53,537 --> 01:35:55,974
We had the star system.
You know, like,
1793
01:35:56,007 --> 01:35:58,142
a star meant it was pretty good.
1794
01:35:58,176 --> 01:35:59,844
Two stars meant
it was really good.
1795
01:35:59,878 --> 01:36:03,281
Three stars meant
we thought it was stellar.
1796
01:36:03,314 --> 01:36:06,484
♪ Sugar Magnolia,
blossom's blooming ♪
1797
01:36:06,517 --> 01:36:09,821
♪ Head's all empty
and I don't care ♪
1798
01:36:09,854 --> 01:36:13,324
♪ Saw my baby
down by the river ♪
1799
01:36:13,357 --> 01:36:17,128
♪ Knew she'd have to
come up soon for air ♪
1800
01:36:17,161 --> 01:36:22,000
Dennis "Wiz" Leonard: So,
it's the last night on the tour.
1801
01:36:22,033 --> 01:36:26,137
I'm stuck in the truck.
Everybody was high as fuck.
1802
01:36:26,170 --> 01:36:28,139
No one else could be found.
1803
01:36:28,172 --> 01:36:32,176
And, you know, there was a problem
with a microphone that, uh,
1804
01:36:32,210 --> 01:36:35,246
I talked to Parish about,
and you know,
1805
01:36:35,279 --> 01:36:38,216
it just was, like,
drooping on the stand, and I said,
1806
01:36:38,249 --> 01:36:41,953
"Can you put a coin in the
screw slot and tighten it?"
1807
01:36:41,986 --> 01:36:44,455
And, you know, Steve was
a piece of work back then.
1808
01:36:44,488 --> 01:36:48,359
He said, "Fuck you.
Come out and fucking do it yourself."
1809
01:36:48,392 --> 01:36:51,462
Oh, jeez, so, you know,
I look over at the tape machine,
1810
01:36:51,495 --> 01:36:54,498
and I had just put an hour and a
half load of tape on the machine,
1811
01:36:54,532 --> 01:36:58,402
and... okay,
I'm gonna lock the truck,
1812
01:36:58,436 --> 01:37:00,138
and I'm going inside,
1813
01:37:00,171 --> 01:37:02,440
and no one's gonna be
in the truck.
1814
01:37:02,473 --> 01:37:04,442
Didn't feel great about that.
1815
01:37:04,475 --> 01:37:09,047
Got in, coin,
tightened up the microphone,
1816
01:37:09,080 --> 01:37:13,217
and as I was walking back to
the center of the stage,
1817
01:37:13,251 --> 01:37:15,053
the steps to go down,
1818
01:37:15,086 --> 01:37:19,557
the band dropped into
"Morning Dew."
1819
01:37:19,590 --> 01:37:24,528
I said, "You know what?
Fuck this.
1820
01:37:24,562 --> 01:37:26,197
"This is where I am."
1821
01:37:26,230 --> 01:37:28,199
And, you know,
I made the decision there
1822
01:37:28,232 --> 01:37:30,401
that I had to be right there.
1823
01:37:33,171 --> 01:37:36,240
Sparky came over to me
and said, "Are you okay?"
1824
01:37:36,274 --> 01:37:38,442
I said, "I'm okay."
1825
01:37:38,476 --> 01:37:41,579
Garcia just looked at me and
shook his head, like, you know...
1826
01:37:41,612 --> 01:37:44,415
And in that instant,
I knew that I was busted
1827
01:37:44,448 --> 01:37:46,584
because no one was in the truck.
1828
01:37:48,152 --> 01:37:51,890
The raised eyebrow
over the eyeglasses,
1829
01:37:51,923 --> 01:37:53,557
it was saying,
"I know who you are,
1830
01:37:53,591 --> 01:37:55,960
"I know what you're doing,
and it's okay."
1831
01:37:58,062 --> 01:38:00,564
♪ Walk me out
1832
01:38:00,598 --> 01:38:07,571
♪ In the morning dew, my honey ♪
1833
01:38:07,605 --> 01:38:10,141
Dennis "Wiz" Leonard:
Because no matter what,
1834
01:38:10,174 --> 01:38:14,612
they really wanted everybody
to be there with them.
1835
01:38:14,645 --> 01:38:16,981
Their relationship
with the music
1836
01:38:17,015 --> 01:38:20,885
was so dependent on the audience's
relationship with the music.
1837
01:38:20,919 --> 01:38:23,121
That was the fuel
that made it all work.
1838
01:38:26,190 --> 01:38:31,395
And recording even was a
backburner to the music.
1839
01:38:31,429 --> 01:38:34,098
♪ Can't walk you out
1840
01:38:34,132 --> 01:38:39,337
♪ In the morning dew, my honey ♪
1841
01:38:39,370 --> 01:38:41,672
Dennis "Wiz" Leonard: "Morning
Dew" is an old folk tune.
1842
01:38:41,705 --> 01:38:45,309
It's a post-apocalyptic
commentary on a world
1843
01:38:45,343 --> 01:38:48,146
once people have all died off.
1844
01:38:48,179 --> 01:38:49,580
♪ I can't walk you out
1845
01:38:49,613 --> 01:38:53,584
"I can't walk you out
in the morning dew."
1846
01:38:53,617 --> 01:38:55,553
"It doesn't matter anyway."
1847
01:39:00,091 --> 01:39:02,927
Sitting right behind Garcia,
1848
01:39:02,961 --> 01:39:06,064
he did a good part of
his solo in that tune
1849
01:39:06,097 --> 01:39:07,465
with his back to the audience
1850
01:39:07,498 --> 01:39:09,633
with tears
streaming down his face,
1851
01:39:09,667 --> 01:39:12,336
'cause he was right there.
1852
01:39:14,305 --> 01:39:19,243
He was playing for all of us,
for all of humankind.
1853
01:39:48,472 --> 01:39:52,143
You know, he was like
the storyteller.
1854
01:39:52,176 --> 01:39:54,078
The minister.
1855
01:39:54,112 --> 01:39:56,981
You know, I don't know what kind
of label you want to put on him.
1856
01:40:21,672 --> 01:40:26,777
And, uh, finished the tune,
I went back in the truck,
1857
01:40:26,810 --> 01:40:30,781
slowly opened the door and
everything was just fine.
1858
01:40:37,355 --> 01:40:40,358
I finished the tour and
went back to the states,
1859
01:40:40,391 --> 01:40:44,528
and my favorite image
of Jerry Garcia was
1860
01:40:44,562 --> 01:40:46,597
bouncing out of
the control room,
1861
01:40:46,630 --> 01:40:49,733
where he was mixing
"Europe '72."
1862
01:40:49,767 --> 01:40:51,335
He looked at me and he said,
1863
01:40:51,369 --> 01:40:53,671
"Wiz, 'Morning Dew'
from the Lyceum
1864
01:40:53,704 --> 01:40:56,374
"is 100 percent
on the album."
1865
01:40:56,407 --> 01:40:57,551
And he looked at me, he said,
1866
01:40:57,575 --> 01:41:00,144
"And no one
was in the truck."
1867
01:41:00,178 --> 01:41:02,613
And, you know, that was what
the band was all about was,
1868
01:41:02,646 --> 01:41:06,450
you know, the...
The tarot card, The Fool,
1869
01:41:06,484 --> 01:41:11,021
just blindly taking
the trip off the cliff.
1870
01:41:12,523 --> 01:41:19,430
♪ I guess it doesn't
really matter ♪
1871
01:41:19,463 --> 01:41:22,633
♪ Anyway
1872
01:41:38,249 --> 01:41:41,652
You know...
1873
01:41:41,685 --> 01:41:44,088
that which was the Grateful Dead
1874
01:41:44,122 --> 01:41:47,791
is the elephant with the 500
blind men and women in it.
1875
01:41:47,825 --> 01:41:50,161
I mean...
1876
01:41:50,194 --> 01:41:54,098
everybody's got a different
understanding of what that thing was.
1877
01:41:54,132 --> 01:41:56,400
And...
1878
01:41:56,434 --> 01:42:00,438
I'm vain enough to think that mine
might be better than some people's
1879
01:42:00,471 --> 01:42:02,873
since I did have
this unique position
1880
01:42:02,906 --> 01:42:05,443
of being both
inside and outside.
1881
01:42:08,512 --> 01:42:12,483
I just think that there's a lot of
bullshit around the Grateful Dead.
1882
01:42:14,552 --> 01:42:17,821
We managed to create just about
the most dysfunctional family
1883
01:42:17,855 --> 01:42:21,091
that's ever been created
on this planet.
1884
01:42:25,529 --> 01:42:28,466
I remember just, like,
the very beginning,
1885
01:42:28,499 --> 01:42:30,601
my first interactions with them.
1886
01:42:33,271 --> 01:42:34,672
I'd been hanging around
1887
01:42:34,705 --> 01:42:36,507
'cause Weir was my
official best friend,
1888
01:42:36,540 --> 01:42:40,244
and we'd just started
writing songs together.
1889
01:42:41,579 --> 01:42:44,782
And looking around I thought,
1890
01:42:44,815 --> 01:42:47,185
goddamn, these guys are like
1891
01:42:47,218 --> 01:42:50,254
a real swaggery,
you know, macho lot.
1892
01:42:54,425 --> 01:42:57,328
The... The idea of
somebody from...
1893
01:42:57,361 --> 01:43:01,932
From inside that scene crying,
1894
01:43:01,965 --> 01:43:03,667
just... you didn't do that.
1895
01:43:07,271 --> 01:43:10,574
Well, fuck, sometimes
it's a good idea to cry.
1896
01:43:10,608 --> 01:43:12,776
And we've got a lot
to cry about, frankly.
1897
01:43:15,579 --> 01:43:19,650
And, you know, it hasn't... it
hasn't been properly wept over.
1898
01:43:19,683 --> 01:43:20,683
Very little of it.
1899
01:43:27,791 --> 01:43:32,230
Pigpen.
Alas, I knew him well.
1900
01:43:35,333 --> 01:43:37,435
Oh, Pig.
1901
01:43:37,468 --> 01:43:39,737
Why the hell would people
put guitar picks down
1902
01:43:39,770 --> 01:43:43,741
on the grave of
the keyboard player?
1903
01:43:44,608 --> 01:43:45,743
Answer me that.
1904
01:43:54,718 --> 01:43:55,953
He was such a sweet man.
1905
01:43:58,522 --> 01:44:00,291
♪ Turn on your light
1906
01:44:00,324 --> 01:44:01,592
♪ Let it shine on me
1907
01:44:01,625 --> 01:44:03,265
John Perry Barlow:
Pigpen was kind of like
1908
01:44:03,294 --> 01:44:06,464
the persona of
the Grateful Dead.
1909
01:44:06,497 --> 01:44:09,767
♪ Let it shine,
let it shine, let it... ♪
1910
01:44:09,800 --> 01:44:11,602
♪ All right
1911
01:44:11,635 --> 01:44:14,938
Mickey Hart: Pigpen would come
out and he'd get people up.
1912
01:44:14,972 --> 01:44:16,974
We couldn't do that.
1913
01:44:17,007 --> 01:44:20,010
I mean, Jerry couldn't do it.
Bob couldn't do it.
1914
01:44:20,043 --> 01:44:23,514
Phil certainly couldn't.
You know?
1915
01:44:24,415 --> 01:44:25,949
But Pigpen could.
1916
01:44:25,983 --> 01:44:27,685
♪ I'll tell you one of
the reasons why... ♪
1917
01:44:27,718 --> 01:44:30,421
As soon as Pig got up,
everybody got up and danced.
1918
01:44:30,454 --> 01:44:31,789
He had that thing about him.
1919
01:44:31,822 --> 01:44:33,691
♪ Kind of thing that
makes me feel so good ♪
1920
01:44:33,724 --> 01:44:36,260
When he sang, you had fun.
1921
01:44:36,294 --> 01:44:38,329
♪ And the reason
1922
01:44:38,362 --> 01:44:40,364
♪ And the reason
1923
01:44:40,398 --> 01:44:42,366
♪ And the reason
1924
01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:43,801
♪ All right
1925
01:44:43,834 --> 01:44:46,770
♪ And she's got
box-back titties ♪
1926
01:44:46,804 --> 01:44:48,806
♪ And great big noble thighs ♪
1927
01:44:48,839 --> 01:44:52,343
♪ Working undercover
with a boar hog's eye ♪
1928
01:44:52,376 --> 01:44:54,412
♪ And the people got up
1929
01:44:54,445 --> 01:44:56,447
♪ And the people slowed
1930
01:44:56,480 --> 01:44:58,582
♪ I got the people up
1931
01:44:58,616 --> 01:45:03,921
♪ Ahhhhhhhh
1932
01:45:03,954 --> 01:45:06,490
Mickey Hart:
Pigpen was a blues guy.
1933
01:45:06,524 --> 01:45:10,761
And the Grateful Dead
started as a blues band.
1934
01:45:10,794 --> 01:45:12,330
That's not where it wound up.
1935
01:45:15,599 --> 01:45:19,370
When the shuffle
turned into a triplet,
1936
01:45:19,403 --> 01:45:22,540
Pigpen couldn't play those.
1937
01:45:22,573 --> 01:45:26,076
He just couldn't quite
get that kind of thing.
1938
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:34,318
Sam Cutler: Garcia and
Pigpen started this band.
1939
01:45:34,352 --> 01:45:37,688
But a lot of people
form bands that...
1940
01:45:37,721 --> 01:45:42,693
And fall by the wayside
as the dream develops.
1941
01:45:42,726 --> 01:45:45,629
Of course, the Grateful Dead had the
experience of the acid tests, right,
1942
01:45:45,663 --> 01:45:47,698
where they all took
the same drug, acid,
1943
01:45:47,731 --> 01:45:49,700
and everyone got crazy together.
1944
01:45:49,733 --> 01:45:51,569
Everybody except Pigpen.
1945
01:45:51,602 --> 01:45:53,413
Pigpen: Hey,
there ain't no power on the stage.
1946
01:45:53,437 --> 01:45:54,948
Sam Cutler: To Pigpen,
it was ridiculous.
1947
01:45:54,972 --> 01:45:56,607
Pigpen: No electricity
on the stage.
1948
01:45:56,640 --> 01:45:57,941
Fix it.
1949
01:45:57,975 --> 01:45:59,419
Prankster:
This is the Captain speaking,
1950
01:45:59,443 --> 01:46:01,111
we have reached
our first emergency.
1951
01:46:01,144 --> 01:46:03,514
Pigpen: Why don't you
rectify it pretty damn quick.
1952
01:46:03,547 --> 01:46:06,083
Prankster: Let's everybody put
their worries and frets to mind
1953
01:46:06,116 --> 01:46:08,652
to produce some electricity
for the stage.
1954
01:46:08,686 --> 01:46:11,455
Pigpen: Hey, man, stop your
babbling and fix these microphones.
1955
01:46:11,489 --> 01:46:14,492
We need some power.
Power.
1956
01:46:14,525 --> 01:46:16,927
Loud! Loud!
1957
01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:18,729
That's better now.
1958
01:46:18,762 --> 01:46:20,474
Sam Cutler: Pigpen
didn't grow with the band
1959
01:46:20,498 --> 01:46:23,501
because Pigpen was busy
killing himself on alcohol.
1960
01:46:27,004 --> 01:46:30,408
You know, I mean,
alcoholics don't like acid.
1961
01:46:30,441 --> 01:46:32,676
They're trying to close down
the doors of perception,
1962
01:46:32,710 --> 01:46:34,110
not open them.
You know what I mean?
1963
01:46:36,179 --> 01:46:39,149
Mickey Hart: When things started
getting a little strange,
1964
01:46:39,182 --> 01:46:41,084
he kind of warped out,
lost interest,
1965
01:46:41,118 --> 01:46:43,587
and just drank and drank
and drank.
1966
01:46:43,621 --> 01:46:44,901
Finally, you know,
it killed him.
1967
01:46:48,726 --> 01:46:49,903
John Perry Barlow:
It was so sad.
1968
01:46:49,927 --> 01:46:51,829
I felt so bad for him, you know.
1969
01:46:51,862 --> 01:46:54,632
I just felt like they... they
weren't actually making any effort
1970
01:46:54,665 --> 01:46:57,768
to keep him feeling
incorporated.
1971
01:47:00,471 --> 01:47:03,106
It was heart rending because
he was so sensitive and sweet,
1972
01:47:03,140 --> 01:47:05,476
and, uh, easily wounded.
1973
01:47:05,509 --> 01:47:08,145
Man 1: 48, take one,
head slate. "A" camera.
1974
01:47:08,178 --> 01:47:09,680
Man 2: "A" camera.
1975
01:47:09,713 --> 01:47:11,525
Because nobody wants to
look at me. Good grief.
1976
01:47:11,549 --> 01:47:13,484
Jerry Garcia: Everyone
wants to look at you, Pig.
1977
01:47:13,517 --> 01:47:15,719
You're beautiful.
Let's put it back a little bit.
1978
01:47:15,753 --> 01:47:18,456
Steve Parish: Pigpen was an
amazing soul of a person,
1979
01:47:18,489 --> 01:47:20,924
and sometimes when you have
1980
01:47:20,958 --> 01:47:23,193
such a rare gem
of a person in there,
1981
01:47:23,226 --> 01:47:25,529
and he's like... you're
dealing with him everyday,
1982
01:47:25,563 --> 01:47:26,897
it becomes a task.
1983
01:47:26,930 --> 01:47:28,599
And so, when I was first around,
1984
01:47:28,632 --> 01:47:30,568
I was pushed together with him
1985
01:47:30,601 --> 01:47:32,882
because, on the road,
nobody else wanted to room with him.
1986
01:47:35,973 --> 01:47:37,675
But, he was so soulful.
1987
01:47:37,708 --> 01:47:39,477
Man: He's all yours.
1988
01:47:39,510 --> 01:47:41,645
Steve Parish: And at
night he would come alive,
1989
01:47:41,679 --> 01:47:44,515
and he drank, and he would
teach you the blues.
1990
01:47:44,548 --> 01:47:49,119
♪ I said goodbye,
goodbye, poor Katie ♪
1991
01:47:49,152 --> 01:47:53,223
♪ It's the last words
I've got to say ♪
1992
01:47:59,029 --> 01:48:04,835
♪ And Na, Na, Na, Na,
poor Katie ♪
1993
01:48:04,868 --> 01:48:08,639
♪ It's the last words
I've got to say ♪
1994
01:48:13,977 --> 01:48:17,848
♪ 'Cause if I don't
meet you tomorrow ♪
1995
01:48:19,517 --> 01:48:24,622
♪ I'm gonna getcha early
in the next day ♪
1996
01:48:24,655 --> 01:48:26,790
John Perry Barlow:
Looking back on 1973,
1997
01:48:26,824 --> 01:48:28,992
yeah, it was a huge
turning point.
1998
01:48:29,026 --> 01:48:32,863
Though... though most people didn't
recognize it as such at the time.
1999
01:48:32,896 --> 01:48:38,502
Uh, in fact, it became
a line of demarcation.
2000
01:48:43,874 --> 01:48:46,610
After that,
it seemed like there was
2001
01:48:46,644 --> 01:48:50,013
an awful lot of death
taking place.
2002
01:48:53,784 --> 01:48:58,522
♪ Like a steam locomotive
2003
01:48:58,556 --> 01:49:01,825
♪ Rollin' down the track
2004
01:49:01,859 --> 01:49:04,261
♪ He's gone
2005
01:49:04,294 --> 01:49:08,732
♪ He's gone, and nothin's
gonna bring him back ♪
2006
01:49:11,702 --> 01:49:13,604
♪ He's gone
2007
01:49:20,611 --> 01:49:22,212
♪ Ooh-ooh-ooh
2008
01:49:22,245 --> 01:49:24,815
♪ Nothin's gonna
bring him back ♪
2009
01:49:24,848 --> 01:49:27,160
Sam Cutler: You look back on
the life of the Grateful Dead,
2010
01:49:27,184 --> 01:49:30,220
and it is littered
with dead people.
2011
01:49:30,253 --> 01:49:32,122
I remember my mother
one time said...
2012
01:49:32,155 --> 01:49:34,692
I saw my mother, I went to
England, and I was visiting,
2013
01:49:34,725 --> 01:49:37,194
I saw my mum
and she was in her 70s...
2014
01:49:37,227 --> 01:49:39,797
I said, "You don't look very happy.
You all right?"
2015
01:49:39,830 --> 01:49:41,965
She goes,
"Oh I'm at that time in my life
2016
01:49:41,999 --> 01:49:43,901
"when all of my friends
are dying."
2017
01:49:43,934 --> 01:49:47,037
I said, "Fuck! My friends are
constantly fucking dying."
2018
01:49:50,340 --> 01:49:52,676
Steve Parish: When Pigpen
died, the band sat around,
2019
01:49:52,710 --> 01:49:54,645
and everybody was wearing
their dark glasses.
2020
01:49:54,678 --> 01:49:56,246
We were crying.
2021
01:49:58,181 --> 01:50:00,684
In the Grateful Dead sometimes
you'd get that glimpse of
2022
01:50:00,718 --> 01:50:03,654
how fast we were moving
through the world.
2023
01:50:05,255 --> 01:50:06,890
Rex Jackson,
2024
01:50:06,924 --> 01:50:09,760
the toughest motherfucker
around,
2025
01:50:09,793 --> 01:50:11,662
gone.
2026
01:50:11,695 --> 01:50:15,633
And Ramrod and Johnny Hagen,
2027
01:50:15,666 --> 01:50:19,269
all these guys are dead now.
2028
01:50:19,302 --> 01:50:21,939
It was a hard life.
2029
01:50:21,972 --> 01:50:23,741
And it took its toll, you know,
2030
01:50:23,774 --> 01:50:25,108
and you had to understand that.
2031
01:50:58,490 --> 01:51:01,594
Man: Have your ticket
out and ready! Let's go.
2032
01:51:01,627 --> 01:51:05,564
Must have a ticket.
2033
01:51:05,598 --> 01:51:07,666
Have 'em out and ready.
2034
01:51:15,173 --> 01:51:19,912
♪ Look for a while at
the China Cat sunflower ♪
2035
01:51:19,945 --> 01:51:25,017
♪ Proud walking jingle
in the midnight sun ♪
2036
01:51:25,050 --> 01:51:27,586
Lesh:
Every time I go on stage,
2037
01:51:27,620 --> 01:51:30,656
I walk on stage
with the knowledge
2038
01:51:30,689 --> 01:51:32,324
that anything can happen.
2039
01:51:34,292 --> 01:51:37,730
The important thing is
to be open.
2040
01:51:40,065 --> 01:51:42,935
Not to go in
with any preconceptions
2041
01:51:42,968 --> 01:51:44,670
about whether
it's gonna be bad or good
2042
01:51:44,703 --> 01:51:46,639
depending on how
the sound check went.
2043
01:51:50,142 --> 01:51:52,377
We always tried to keep it
as open as possible,
2044
01:51:52,410 --> 01:51:54,780
and that's what we learned
from the acid test.
2045
01:51:58,350 --> 01:52:01,720
Cutler: What the LSD
experience teaches you
2046
01:52:01,754 --> 01:52:04,890
is that all things are possible.
2047
01:52:07,726 --> 01:52:10,028
And that's how
the Grateful Dead played.
2048
01:52:11,897 --> 01:52:13,766
You know,
Phil certainly doesn't play
2049
01:52:13,799 --> 01:52:16,635
what one would describe
as a conventional bass.
2050
01:52:21,974 --> 01:52:24,910
And Bobby ended up
inventing a whole way
2051
01:52:24,943 --> 01:52:27,345
of being the unique rhythm
guitar player.
2052
01:52:33,886 --> 01:52:38,123
But there's nobody who ever
came anywhere close to Jerry
2053
01:52:38,156 --> 01:52:40,392
in terms of being able
to manifest
2054
01:52:40,425 --> 01:52:43,295
the psychedelic
experience musically.
2055
01:52:48,100 --> 01:52:49,868
Having taken LSD,
2056
01:52:49,902 --> 01:52:53,171
you become this person
who's aware of the fact
2057
01:52:53,205 --> 01:52:57,042
that life only has a certain
amount of predictability to it.
2058
01:52:59,745 --> 01:53:05,250
Jerry was a master at setting up
a kind of musical expectation
2059
01:53:05,283 --> 01:53:08,887
and then dragging you off
in another direction.
2060
01:53:31,777 --> 01:53:34,947
McNally: The Grateful Dead went
into the music for the adventure.
2061
01:53:37,282 --> 01:53:40,953
And they went into it having had
that experience with the acid tests,
2062
01:53:40,986 --> 01:53:44,957
in which you treated
your audience like partners.
2063
01:53:46,925 --> 01:53:50,462
That's why they did things
like spend
2064
01:53:50,495 --> 01:53:54,967
an unconscionable amount
of money on the sound system,
2065
01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:57,903
because that's the link
between them and the audience.
2066
01:53:57,936 --> 01:54:00,372
It was the sound.
2067
01:54:04,042 --> 01:54:07,512
Parish: Jerry wanted to put a better
quality of sound out to the people,
2068
01:54:07,545 --> 01:54:09,414
and all the guys did.
2069
01:54:11,817 --> 01:54:13,318
So we built this thing together
2070
01:54:13,351 --> 01:54:17,856
that became
the most unbelievable PA
2071
01:54:17,890 --> 01:54:20,826
that you could imagine.
2072
01:54:20,859 --> 01:54:24,830
And we called it
the Wall of Sound.
2073
01:54:27,866 --> 01:54:31,837
Lesh: The Wall of Sound?
2074
01:54:31,870 --> 01:54:33,405
I loved that thing.
2075
01:54:36,441 --> 01:54:41,046
I mean, it was the best PA ever.
2076
01:54:41,079 --> 01:54:44,082
It was the best sound
I can possibly imagine.
2077
01:54:44,116 --> 01:54:47,485
And it was also the biggest.
2078
01:54:47,519 --> 01:54:50,388
It was absolutely apocalyptic.
2079
01:54:52,991 --> 01:54:54,827
It was like the voice of God.
2080
01:55:12,510 --> 01:55:15,347
Parish: Oh yeah.
We built that PA.
2081
01:55:15,380 --> 01:55:18,450
We did that ourselves
in our spare time
2082
01:55:18,483 --> 01:55:20,218
with our own two hands.
2083
01:55:20,252 --> 01:55:22,520
I learned to weld.
Heely showed me.
2084
01:55:22,554 --> 01:55:24,456
We welded
the first horns together
2085
01:55:24,489 --> 01:55:27,125
that we carried ourselves.
2086
01:55:27,159 --> 01:55:33,832
And at the heart of the dream
of it was Owsley, or Bear,
2087
01:55:33,866 --> 01:55:39,137
and his sound design genius.
2088
01:55:39,171 --> 01:55:41,349
Weir: That's the gleeful sound
of our PA as it warms up.
2089
01:55:41,373 --> 01:55:44,176
Pigpen: Hey Bear, there's not
gonna be another fuckin' word sung
2090
01:55:44,209 --> 01:55:46,311
until them goddamn
monitors work.
2091
01:55:46,344 --> 01:55:48,580
Weir: That, ladies and
gentlemen, is Bear, none other.
2092
01:55:48,613 --> 01:55:51,616
Lesh:
Bear was a mad scientist.
2093
01:55:51,649 --> 01:55:54,819
A little bit of a mad scientist
among many other aspects.
2094
01:55:56,554 --> 01:55:59,191
Weir:
Augustus Owsley Stanley,
2095
01:55:59,224 --> 01:56:01,626
or better known as The Bear,
2096
01:56:01,659 --> 01:56:05,030
made probably the best LSD
that has ever been made.
2097
01:56:05,063 --> 01:56:07,933
Cutler: Oof, that was
particularly powerful LSD,
2098
01:56:07,966 --> 01:56:10,635
you know, Jimi Hendrix
wrote Purple Haze
2099
01:56:10,668 --> 01:56:13,438
in honor of a brand
of LSD that The Bear made.
2100
01:56:13,471 --> 01:56:15,974
Weir: He more or less fueled
the psychedelic revolution,
2101
01:56:16,008 --> 01:56:18,210
or whatever you wanted
to call it.
2102
01:56:18,243 --> 01:56:21,246
Cutler: In a way, yeah, it changed the
consciousness of the Western world.
2103
01:56:21,279 --> 01:56:23,581
Weir: It certainly fueled us
in our little explorations.
2104
01:56:31,156 --> 01:56:33,358
Parish:
When the Grateful Dead started,
2105
01:56:33,391 --> 01:56:36,294
Owsley bought 'em all their own
equipment with his acid money.
2106
01:56:38,263 --> 01:56:40,365
Lesh:
He had sort of adopted us
2107
01:56:40,398 --> 01:56:43,068
from the Fillmore Acid Test on.
2108
01:56:43,101 --> 01:56:47,005
He put a lot of energy and, yes,
money, into the Grateful Dead.
2109
01:56:47,039 --> 01:56:48,506
Parish:
In the early days,
2110
01:56:48,540 --> 01:56:52,477
what there was in P.A.s
was just so inadequate.
2111
01:56:52,510 --> 01:56:55,513
Hart: We realized that if we were
gonna play for larger crowds,
2112
01:56:55,547 --> 01:56:58,083
we were gonna need
a real delivery system.
2113
01:56:58,116 --> 01:57:03,588
And, if sound was the product
of all of this work,
2114
01:57:03,621 --> 01:57:06,258
it better be fucking good, man.
2115
01:57:06,291 --> 01:57:09,594
Lesh: Bear's dream was
to have a system
2116
01:57:09,627 --> 01:57:12,630
that you could hear for a mile.
2117
01:57:12,664 --> 01:57:15,600
No distortion between
the string and the speaker.
2118
01:57:15,633 --> 01:57:19,004
That was his holy grail.
2119
01:57:19,037 --> 01:57:21,339
At first,
that was just a fantasy.
2120
01:57:21,373 --> 01:57:24,309
But then, Bear started
2121
01:57:24,342 --> 01:57:26,478
seriously thinking
about how it could be done.
2122
01:57:28,346 --> 01:57:30,282
The first thing was,
2123
01:57:30,315 --> 01:57:33,618
he'd move all the speakers
for everything behind the band
2124
01:57:33,651 --> 01:57:35,720
so we don't have any
complicated interference.
2125
01:57:35,753 --> 01:57:37,422
He built differential
microphones,
2126
01:57:37,455 --> 01:57:40,425
which are two microphones
connected out of phase.
2127
01:57:40,458 --> 01:57:43,495
You sing into one of them,
and the one that's out of phase
2128
01:57:43,528 --> 01:57:47,265
eliminates all of the feedback.
2129
01:57:47,299 --> 01:57:50,235
We found that dispersion
of speakers is much better
2130
01:57:50,268 --> 01:57:52,570
if they're placed
vertically together
2131
01:57:52,604 --> 01:57:54,306
than if they're spread out.
2132
01:57:54,339 --> 01:57:56,341
And so that lead
to the thought of,
2133
01:57:56,374 --> 01:57:59,311
"Okay, it had to be large
and tall to push air
2134
01:57:59,344 --> 01:58:01,046
so you that could hear it
for a mile."
2135
01:58:05,217 --> 01:58:11,089
Parish: Phil Lesh,
he had a stack 32 feet high.
2136
01:58:11,123 --> 01:58:13,658
Why was it 32 feet?
Because that's a standing bass wave.
2137
01:58:13,691 --> 01:58:16,628
So everything was based on
some kind of deep science thing.
2138
01:58:16,661 --> 01:58:19,431
We built this thing together
2139
01:58:19,464 --> 01:58:23,235
that became
the most unbelievable PA
2140
01:58:23,268 --> 01:58:25,203
that you could imagine.
2141
01:58:25,237 --> 01:58:28,106
But, by the time we got to '74,
2142
01:58:28,140 --> 01:58:31,676
the Wall of Sound
was making us crazy.
2143
01:58:36,248 --> 01:58:41,053
We had to get up
at six in the morning.
2144
01:58:41,086 --> 01:58:45,790
Eight o'clock,
we had to be at that hall...
2145
01:58:45,823 --> 01:58:48,626
convincing the union guys
that what we were bringing in
2146
01:58:48,660 --> 01:58:51,029
was something that was needed.
2147
01:58:51,063 --> 01:58:54,099
They'd never saw rock and roll
shows with these kind of things.
2148
01:58:57,569 --> 01:59:02,107
Three trucks full to the brim
with all this heavy gear.
2149
01:59:05,477 --> 01:59:08,680
Ten o'clock,
the trucks were empty.
2150
01:59:08,713 --> 01:59:13,318
It took us till noon
to stack the 500 speakers.
2151
01:59:15,187 --> 01:59:17,422
Wired it up all afternoon.
2152
01:59:17,455 --> 01:59:19,257
The band came in
about four o'clock
2153
01:59:19,291 --> 01:59:21,526
and sound checked.
2154
01:59:21,559 --> 01:59:23,361
And then the doors
opened at seven.
2155
01:59:27,399 --> 01:59:29,210
And then they play till
one or two in the morning.
2156
01:59:29,234 --> 01:59:30,835
It took us four hours
to take it out.
2157
01:59:30,868 --> 01:59:33,671
Here's six a.m.,
we're driving to the next place.
2158
01:59:38,243 --> 01:59:41,846
Lesh: I'm sure we could have
made it more efficient and easier
2159
01:59:41,879 --> 01:59:43,648
to set up and everything.
2160
01:59:45,350 --> 01:59:46,484
We didn't give a shit.
2161
01:59:48,586 --> 01:59:52,490
We were gonna do it,
and we were gonna blow it out
2162
01:59:52,524 --> 01:59:54,659
until we couldn't do it anymore.
2163
01:59:54,692 --> 01:59:56,694
It doesn't matter
when that happens.
2164
01:59:56,728 --> 02:00:00,132
While we got,
it we were gonna do it.
2165
02:00:00,165 --> 02:00:01,333
The Grateful Dead are dumb.
2166
02:00:01,366 --> 02:00:03,235
You have to understand
something.
2167
02:00:03,268 --> 02:00:05,170
They make fabulous music,
2168
02:00:05,203 --> 02:00:07,405
wonderful, amazing music,
2169
02:00:07,439 --> 02:00:10,542
the best music of any band
I've ever been involved with.
2170
02:00:10,575 --> 02:00:11,843
Fabulous.
2171
02:00:11,876 --> 02:00:15,147
When it came to business
decisions... stupid.
2172
02:00:15,180 --> 02:00:19,384
Sam brought a professionalism
to the office,
2173
02:00:19,417 --> 02:00:22,454
which was needed at that time,
2174
02:00:22,487 --> 02:00:25,657
but he ran up against
the fact that he was not
2175
02:00:25,690 --> 02:00:29,827
dealing with a hierarchical
organization.
2176
02:00:29,861 --> 02:00:34,599
I was brought in to manage
the publishing company,
2177
02:00:34,632 --> 02:00:37,802
but our roles within
the Grateful Dead family
2178
02:00:37,835 --> 02:00:40,572
actually overlapped a lot.
2179
02:00:40,605 --> 02:00:43,841
We all did a little bit
of everything.
2180
02:00:43,875 --> 02:00:47,545
And Sam found that he was
dealing with a collective,
2181
02:00:47,579 --> 02:00:51,916
and these were not
music business professionals.
2182
02:00:51,949 --> 02:00:54,786
It was a nightmare.
Nightmare.
2183
02:00:54,819 --> 02:00:57,489
First off, they didn't
know how to make decisions.
2184
02:00:57,522 --> 02:00:59,291
Trist:
Everybody had a voice,
2185
02:00:59,324 --> 02:01:01,659
and everybody's voice
was equally listened to.
2186
02:01:01,693 --> 02:01:04,396
Cutler: When I first went to a
meeting with the Grateful Dead,
2187
02:01:04,429 --> 02:01:06,231
there was all
these people there.
2188
02:01:06,264 --> 02:01:08,633
There was so many fuckin'
people, it was ridiculous.
2189
02:01:08,666 --> 02:01:10,302
They were all part of this
2190
02:01:10,335 --> 02:01:13,605
amorphous blob of people
called The Family.
2191
02:01:13,638 --> 02:01:16,708
Trist: It had the characteristics
of an open system.
2192
02:01:16,741 --> 02:01:17,951
Cutler:
I don't deal with families.
2193
02:01:17,975 --> 02:01:19,777
I deal with rock and roll bands,
you know?
2194
02:01:19,811 --> 02:01:21,946
Trist: One that cared
a lot about the employees.
2195
02:01:21,979 --> 02:01:23,548
Cutler:
I don't deal with old ladies,
2196
02:01:23,581 --> 02:01:24,825
I don't deal with friends
of the band.
2197
02:01:24,849 --> 02:01:25,917
Trist:
One person says no,
2198
02:01:25,950 --> 02:01:27,319
then it's not on.
2199
02:01:27,352 --> 02:01:28,753
Whatever.
I deal with musicians.
2200
02:01:28,786 --> 02:01:30,622
You want me to do this,
I'll do it,
2201
02:01:30,655 --> 02:01:32,400
but I ain't gonna deal
with all these other people.
2202
02:01:32,424 --> 02:01:33,934
McNally: When is the twelfth?
Is it a Wednesday?
2203
02:01:33,958 --> 02:01:35,793
- Man: No, it's a Sunday.
- Hart: The tenth.
2204
02:01:35,827 --> 02:01:37,595
Weir: I say, the twelfth.
2205
02:01:37,629 --> 02:01:40,865
Hart: What day is it?
Cutler: What's a camel?
2206
02:01:40,898 --> 02:01:42,967
It's a horse designed
by a committee.
2207
02:01:43,000 --> 02:01:45,603
Garcia: Why don't we
make it one of those...
2208
02:01:45,637 --> 02:01:47,548
Man: Well, I didn't wanna
fuckin' sit there anyway.
2209
02:01:47,572 --> 02:01:49,674
Parish: This is Steve.
I'm at the meeting.
2210
02:01:49,707 --> 02:01:51,476
Everything's going
to pieces, man.
2211
02:01:51,509 --> 02:01:53,211
People are screamin'
out of turn.
2212
02:01:53,245 --> 02:01:54,879
The whole place
is burning down, man.
2213
02:01:54,912 --> 02:01:56,981
Cutler: I'm a great believer
in tellin' people,
2214
02:01:57,014 --> 02:02:00,652
"This is what needs
to be done."
2215
02:02:00,685 --> 02:02:02,454
But of course,
that didn't endear me
2216
02:02:02,487 --> 02:02:05,223
to a lot of people
in the Grateful Dead.
2217
02:02:05,257 --> 02:02:08,626
So, eventually,
I said "good luck" and left.
2218
02:02:10,828 --> 02:02:12,897
Parish:
Sam knew how to treat the crew,
2219
02:02:12,930 --> 02:02:14,466
and he had the experience
2220
02:02:14,499 --> 02:02:15,867
to take us through those years
2221
02:02:15,900 --> 02:02:18,903
of our first growth spurt.
2222
02:02:18,936 --> 02:02:22,840
But by the time we got
to '74, he was gone.
2223
02:02:22,874 --> 02:02:24,776
Lev: Who was in charge?
2224
02:02:24,809 --> 02:02:26,378
Well, I'm so glad you asked that
2225
02:02:26,411 --> 02:02:28,246
because I came up
with this, man.
2226
02:02:28,280 --> 02:02:30,258
Because we would hear that
a lot of times from promoters.
2227
02:02:30,282 --> 02:02:31,383
"Who's in charge here?"
2228
02:02:31,416 --> 02:02:32,517
We'd hear it from cops.
2229
02:02:32,550 --> 02:02:33,885
"Who's in charge here?"
2230
02:02:33,918 --> 02:02:37,355
And I came up with this saying.
2231
02:02:37,389 --> 02:02:39,591
I said,
"The situation is the boss."
2232
02:02:41,393 --> 02:02:44,429
There were times when I was
in charge of everything.
2233
02:02:44,462 --> 02:02:48,266
There were times when Jerry
was in charge of everything.
2234
02:02:48,300 --> 02:02:52,337
And then, at another time,
it would be somebody else.
2235
02:02:52,370 --> 02:02:54,706
It would be a truck
that had a blown carburetor.
2236
02:02:54,739 --> 02:02:56,741
That carburetor was
the boss at that moment.
2237
02:02:56,774 --> 02:02:58,943
♪ There's mosquitoes
on the river ♪
2238
02:03:01,579 --> 02:03:03,515
♪ Fish are rising up
like birds ♪
2239
02:03:06,083 --> 02:03:08,353
♪ It's been hot
for seven weeks now ♪
2240
02:03:08,386 --> 02:03:10,054
♪ Too hot to even speak now
2241
02:03:10,087 --> 02:03:12,357
♪ Did you hear
what I just heard? ♪
2242
02:03:15,026 --> 02:03:16,794
Say, it might have been a fiddle.
2243
02:03:16,828 --> 02:03:20,398
Parish: In '74,
we took the Wall of Sound
2244
02:03:20,432 --> 02:03:23,601
over to Europe,
and it was about impossible.
2245
02:03:23,635 --> 02:03:26,404
If you think the United States
couldn't deal with it,
2246
02:03:26,438 --> 02:03:28,806
Europe, they couldn't deal
with it at all.
2247
02:03:28,840 --> 02:03:30,675
They didn't know why
you had to bring
2248
02:03:30,708 --> 02:03:31,943
this much sound equipment.
2249
02:03:31,976 --> 02:03:33,645
What were you thinking?
2250
02:03:33,678 --> 02:03:38,816
♪ There's a band
out on the highway ♪
2251
02:03:38,850 --> 02:03:43,555
♪ They're high-stepping
into town ♪
2252
02:03:43,588 --> 02:03:48,393
Parish: We worked so hard,
exhaustion was setting in.
2253
02:03:48,426 --> 02:03:53,365
And cocaine was leading
the pack now.
2254
02:03:53,398 --> 02:03:56,434
We were in such
a drug fueled world.
2255
02:03:56,468 --> 02:03:58,636
We didn't have anybody
telling us no.
2256
02:03:58,670 --> 02:04:01,639
And God forbid, if somebody did.
2257
02:04:01,673 --> 02:04:04,642
If it was your old lady
or your wife, she was gone.
2258
02:04:04,676 --> 02:04:07,111
If she tried to do it as much as you
did, she was gone.
2259
02:04:07,144 --> 02:04:09,981
You both were gone.
2260
02:04:10,014 --> 02:04:11,483
Everybody was crazy.
2261
02:04:14,919 --> 02:04:19,357
Hart: Oh, yeah.
Backstage, it was total chaos.
2262
02:04:19,391 --> 02:04:21,826
People were doing
heavier drugs, you know.
2263
02:04:21,859 --> 02:04:23,528
The cocaine came in.
2264
02:04:23,561 --> 02:04:24,829
The heroin came in.
2265
02:04:24,862 --> 02:04:26,864
The booze came in.
2266
02:04:26,898 --> 02:04:29,133
It was everywhere.
2267
02:04:29,166 --> 02:04:33,004
You realize, of course, that we're
engaging in illicit activities here.
2268
02:04:33,037 --> 02:04:35,640
Hart: You had to have
a lot of discipline.
2269
02:04:35,673 --> 02:04:38,476
We didn't have a lot
of discipline in some ways.
2270
02:04:52,089 --> 02:04:55,059
Lesh: When we went
to Europe in '74, it was...
2271
02:04:55,092 --> 02:04:58,095
It was gettin' really crazy.
2272
02:05:00,197 --> 02:05:03,601
And everybody, I think,
was gettin' too deep
2273
02:05:03,635 --> 02:05:07,639
into the rock and roll fantasy,
you know, world.
2274
02:05:11,876 --> 02:05:15,447
Parish: I don't give a hell
what anybody believes, man.
2275
02:05:15,480 --> 02:05:19,517
Every drug that we took,
we used for self exploration.
2276
02:05:25,156 --> 02:05:28,626
Nitrous Oxide puts you
in that place
2277
02:05:28,660 --> 02:05:33,431
where you're at rapture
of the deep, basically.
2278
02:05:33,465 --> 02:05:35,500
So your body is living
off of nitrous,
2279
02:05:35,533 --> 02:05:37,201
but we're made
to live off oxygen.
2280
02:05:37,234 --> 02:05:41,038
So your brain goes to this place
where it's lettin' go...
2281
02:05:41,072 --> 02:05:45,176
of reality and consciousness,
and you're dying.
2282
02:05:45,209 --> 02:05:46,678
You're gratefully dying.
2283
02:05:49,914 --> 02:05:52,917
That's why you laugh,
because it's funny, man.
2284
02:05:58,122 --> 02:06:00,992
You understand everything
at that moment, man.
2285
02:06:01,025 --> 02:06:03,795
Everything makes fuckin' sense.
This thing happens...
2286
02:06:03,828 --> 02:06:06,931
Oh that, yeah,
the music on this thing!
2287
02:06:06,964 --> 02:06:09,000
And you, your leg
and your arm, bam!
2288
02:06:09,033 --> 02:06:11,536
And your mother's glasses, wow!
2289
02:06:11,569 --> 02:06:14,205
And then you come out of it,
and you can't get back there.
2290
02:06:14,238 --> 02:06:16,040
You can't go back to that spot,
2291
02:06:16,073 --> 02:06:17,975
but yet you know
for the rest of your life
2292
02:06:18,009 --> 02:06:20,478
that there is that high place.
2293
02:06:22,947 --> 02:06:28,085
If you're takin' drugs
just to hide from the world,
2294
02:06:28,119 --> 02:06:30,154
you're gonna become
a hidden person.
2295
02:06:32,890 --> 02:06:34,992
If you take drugs
to find the world,
2296
02:06:35,026 --> 02:06:37,595
you're gonna become
a vibrant human being.
2297
02:06:42,834 --> 02:06:44,902
Barlow: One of the things
that I don't think
2298
02:06:44,936 --> 02:06:46,213
people have properly appreciated
2299
02:06:46,237 --> 02:06:50,074
about the culture
of the Grateful Dead
2300
02:06:50,107 --> 02:06:55,813
is our utter comfort
with paradox.
2301
02:06:55,847 --> 02:07:00,585
You know, we were never an
either-or kind of a culture.
2302
02:07:00,618 --> 02:07:02,520
We were always both-and.
2303
02:07:05,256 --> 02:07:08,292
The Deadheads, you know,
they had a very strong sense
2304
02:07:08,325 --> 02:07:10,027
that there were good guys
and bad guys
2305
02:07:10,061 --> 02:07:11,295
and they knew who they were.
2306
02:07:11,328 --> 02:07:14,632
There is good, and there is bad.
2307
02:07:14,666 --> 02:07:17,068
Good, bad.
2308
02:07:19,637 --> 02:07:21,205
With us, it wasn't so clear.
2309
02:07:21,238 --> 02:07:24,041
You know, we had a...
2310
02:07:24,075 --> 02:07:27,679
We had Hell's Angels
hanging around for ages.
2311
02:07:29,814 --> 02:07:32,984
You know, and those are people who
don't even try to be good guys.
2312
02:07:35,086 --> 02:07:37,555
Sacramento's coming down,
San Jose's coming up,
2313
02:07:37,589 --> 02:07:40,992
Davis City's coming in,
Richmond, Frisco will be here.
2314
02:07:49,066 --> 02:07:51,736
And here's a good friend of ours
right here from San Francisco.
2315
02:07:51,769 --> 02:07:53,738
Hey, how come we never
cake fight, Bobby?
2316
02:07:53,771 --> 02:07:57,041
Man: Cake fight!
2317
02:07:57,074 --> 02:07:58,976
Is this your guitar?
2318
02:07:59,010 --> 02:08:00,654
Barlow: I mean, at one point
I complained to Garcia
2319
02:08:00,678 --> 02:08:03,147
about what I thought was
the unnecessary presence
2320
02:08:03,180 --> 02:08:08,052
of all the Angels
thuggin' it up backstage,
2321
02:08:08,085 --> 02:08:10,622
making everybody
kind of nervous,
2322
02:08:10,655 --> 02:08:14,125
and making it even harder
for women in a scene that
2323
02:08:14,158 --> 02:08:18,229
was already misogynistic
to the max.
2324
02:08:18,262 --> 02:08:20,264
And he said, "Well, you know,
2325
02:08:20,297 --> 02:08:23,334
I don't think that good means
very much without evil."
2326
02:08:26,237 --> 02:08:29,607
Which is true.
2327
02:08:29,641 --> 02:08:31,342
But that doesn't
necessarily mean
2328
02:08:31,375 --> 02:08:35,346
that you have to always have
a seat for evil at the table.
2329
02:08:35,379 --> 02:08:37,815
♪ Ran into the Devil, baby
2330
02:08:37,849 --> 02:08:40,251
♪ He loaned me 20 bills
2331
02:08:40,284 --> 02:08:41,953
♪ Spent the night in Utah
2332
02:08:41,986 --> 02:08:44,822
♪ In a cave up in the hills
2333
02:08:44,856 --> 02:08:47,124
♪ Set out running
but I take my time ♪
2334
02:08:47,158 --> 02:08:49,293
♪ A friend of the devil
is a friend of mine ♪
2335
02:08:49,326 --> 02:08:51,829
♪ If I get home
before daylight ♪
2336
02:08:51,863 --> 02:08:56,200
♪ Just might get
some sleep tonight ♪
2337
02:08:56,233 --> 02:09:00,071
Garcia: Hell's Angels happened
because of freedom.
2338
02:09:00,104 --> 02:09:03,207
They're free to happen.
2339
02:09:03,240 --> 02:09:07,178
And they're a manifestation
of what freedom is in essence.
2340
02:09:07,211 --> 02:09:09,814
Reporter:
And yet, you have an Altamont.
2341
02:09:17,889 --> 02:09:21,392
Somehow I feel that you're
being, maybe, too forgiving.
2342
02:09:21,425 --> 02:09:23,861
Garcia: I'm not... I mean, you
know, well, what's to forgive?
2343
02:09:23,895 --> 02:09:26,097
- There isn't any blame.
- Reporter: There is no blame?
2344
02:09:26,130 --> 02:09:27,340
Garcia: No, man,
there isn't any blame.
2345
02:09:27,364 --> 02:09:28,966
Because who're you gonna blame?
2346
02:09:29,000 --> 02:09:30,343
You'd have to blame everybody,
you know?
2347
02:09:30,367 --> 02:09:31,769
We're all human beings,
2348
02:09:31,803 --> 02:09:33,113
we're all on this planet
together,
2349
02:09:33,137 --> 02:09:34,706
and all the problems
are all of ours.
2350
02:09:39,310 --> 02:09:42,313
Not, some are mine
and some are theirs.
2351
02:09:42,346 --> 02:09:45,449
If there's a war going on,
I'm as responsible as anybody is.
2352
02:09:45,482 --> 02:09:47,885
If somebody's murdered,
I'm responsible for that, too.
2353
02:09:50,855 --> 02:09:52,757
At some point or another
somebody has to say,
2354
02:09:52,790 --> 02:09:55,092
there can be
no Hell's Angels, you know?
2355
02:09:55,126 --> 02:09:59,130
And who's gonna say that?
2356
02:09:59,163 --> 02:10:03,467
It's just, you know, it's not
what I'm interested in doing.
2357
02:10:03,500 --> 02:10:05,469
The question is
how to work it out, man?
2358
02:10:05,502 --> 02:10:08,339
How can you have freedom
and still work it out?
2359
02:10:15,379 --> 02:10:18,182
There was a strong belief,
2360
02:10:18,215 --> 02:10:23,187
primarily on Garcia's part,
2361
02:10:23,220 --> 02:10:26,457
that it was important
that it be leaderless.
2362
02:10:28,492 --> 02:10:30,995
He did not want
to be the leader.
2363
02:10:33,264 --> 02:10:36,300
Never mind that he was,
2364
02:10:36,333 --> 02:10:40,071
and there was no way around it,
2365
02:10:40,104 --> 02:10:43,307
and, you know, often times
bad things happened
2366
02:10:43,340 --> 02:10:45,209
because he wasn't willing to...
2367
02:10:45,242 --> 02:10:46,978
He wasn't willing to assert
2368
02:10:47,011 --> 02:10:49,380
what was basically
pretty obvious.
2369
02:10:56,120 --> 02:10:58,522
Trist:
Jerry once said to me,
2370
02:10:58,555 --> 02:11:02,026
when I was getting
a little excited
2371
02:11:02,059 --> 02:11:05,763
about putting off
some project or some idea,
2372
02:11:05,797 --> 02:11:07,531
he said, "You know,
2373
02:11:07,564 --> 02:11:12,469
don't try to do anything
with the Grateful Dead."
2374
02:11:15,372 --> 02:11:20,411
That, you know, because
the collective, in a way,
2375
02:11:20,444 --> 02:11:23,514
is a classic example
of following the Tao.
2376
02:11:27,184 --> 02:11:29,386
The way things went down
2377
02:11:29,420 --> 02:11:32,556
were the way they
were supposed to go down.
2378
02:11:32,589 --> 02:11:36,027
And, you know, nobody really
knew what that was.
2379
02:11:46,570 --> 02:11:48,572
Barlow: Because nobody
wanted to be in charge,
2380
02:11:48,605 --> 02:11:54,011
and nobody wanted
to say no to anything,
2381
02:11:54,045 --> 02:11:56,113
it became pretty clear that...
2382
02:11:56,147 --> 02:12:00,317
we had become a fully
dysfunctional family.
2383
02:12:00,351 --> 02:12:03,855
Godchaux: I don't want to get
into the whole drugs thing,
2384
02:12:03,888 --> 02:12:06,858
but it just got unbearable.
2385
02:12:08,592 --> 02:12:13,264
It got unbearable on Keith
and me as a husband and wife,
2386
02:12:13,297 --> 02:12:18,002
as a couple with a child,
2387
02:12:18,035 --> 02:12:20,071
and Keith and I
were burning out.
2388
02:12:24,108 --> 02:12:25,409
Barlow: At one point,
2389
02:12:25,442 --> 02:12:27,411
Alan Trist went
completely crazy.
2390
02:12:27,444 --> 02:12:31,215
I mean, the sanest guy
in the whole scene, basically.
2391
02:12:31,248 --> 02:12:34,952
Trist: My susceptibility
to what we call around here
2392
02:12:34,986 --> 02:12:37,121
the Marin Spin
2393
02:12:37,154 --> 02:12:40,324
was probably likely to kill me.
2394
02:12:40,357 --> 02:12:43,627
And I was out of Dodge
for a period there,
2395
02:12:43,660 --> 02:12:46,630
until I became more connected
2396
02:12:46,663 --> 02:12:50,267
with gentler approaches to...
2397
02:12:50,301 --> 02:12:53,037
To self-abuse, if you're
going to put it that way.
2398
02:12:54,671 --> 02:12:58,609
McNally: It was difficult
just trying to limp along.
2399
02:12:58,642 --> 02:13:02,513
I mean, remember, they were
spending incredible amounts
2400
02:13:02,546 --> 02:13:05,883
of money on the sound system.
2401
02:13:05,917 --> 02:13:10,121
And they paid the crew, which by now
had gotten to be a respectable size...
2402
02:13:10,154 --> 02:13:13,557
Radically more
than any other employees
2403
02:13:13,590 --> 02:13:15,392
in the history of rock and roll.
2404
02:13:15,426 --> 02:13:18,229
They were supporting
lots of people,
2405
02:13:18,262 --> 02:13:19,931
including their own families.
2406
02:13:19,964 --> 02:13:22,433
And it's too much.
2407
02:13:22,466 --> 02:13:24,535
It's all too much.
2408
02:13:24,568 --> 02:13:25,602
That's not tenable.
2409
02:13:28,672 --> 02:13:30,975
Barlow: You know,
and it finally just...
2410
02:13:31,008 --> 02:13:33,444
It reached a point where...
2411
02:13:33,477 --> 02:13:36,981
in late '74...
2412
02:13:37,014 --> 02:13:40,084
everybody sort of
simultaneously came
2413
02:13:40,117 --> 02:13:42,653
to the conclusion that it just...
2414
02:13:42,686 --> 02:13:45,389
It just wasn't worth it.
2415
02:13:45,422 --> 02:13:48,960
Uh... and we broke up.
2416
02:13:52,096 --> 02:13:55,066
Lesh: It was decided somehow
that we would take a break.
2417
02:13:55,099 --> 02:13:57,001
And, if you're gonna do that,
2418
02:13:57,034 --> 02:14:00,137
then it's probably a good idea
to do some farewell shows.
2419
02:14:00,171 --> 02:14:02,573
♪ I know you rider
2420
02:14:02,606 --> 02:14:07,644
♪ Gonna miss me when I'm gone
2421
02:14:07,678 --> 02:14:09,246
Lesh: And so,
we'd booked these last...
2422
02:14:09,280 --> 02:14:11,415
four, five shows
at the Winterland.
2423
02:14:11,448 --> 02:14:14,318
♪ I know you rider
2424
02:14:14,351 --> 02:14:19,690
♪ Gonna miss me when I'm gone
2425
02:14:23,060 --> 02:14:26,063
♪ Gonna miss your baby
2426
02:14:26,097 --> 02:14:30,367
♪ From rolling in your arms
2427
02:14:41,345 --> 02:14:45,116
Lesh: And somebody on the management
side came up with an idea,
2428
02:14:45,149 --> 02:14:47,151
"Well, let's make
a movie out of it."
2429
02:14:47,184 --> 02:14:50,721
- Man: This is sound roll TH6.
- Take one.
2430
02:14:50,754 --> 02:14:53,366
Lesh: Jerry really loved that 'cause
he's always wanted to direct a movie,
2431
02:14:53,390 --> 02:14:56,593
so this was his chance,
so he kind of jumped on that.
2432
02:14:59,063 --> 02:15:01,698
Barlow: We had something
like eleven camera crews
2433
02:15:01,732 --> 02:15:06,737
ostensibly making a movie
that was gonna sum up our work.
2434
02:15:06,770 --> 02:15:08,572
And that was gonna be
the end of it.
2435
02:15:08,605 --> 02:15:11,408
♪ The sun will shine
2436
02:15:11,442 --> 02:15:16,080
♪ In my back door someday
2437
02:15:16,113 --> 02:15:19,316
But it was kind of fraught
with weirdness
2438
02:15:19,350 --> 02:15:23,520
from the beginning,
not surprisingly.
2439
02:15:23,554 --> 02:15:27,158
Our sound mixer
kind of went belly up,
2440
02:15:27,191 --> 02:15:29,160
mentally speaking.
2441
02:15:29,193 --> 02:15:32,429
During our actual recording,
at the end of the last show,
2442
02:15:32,463 --> 02:15:38,069
he was found cowering
under the soundboard.
2443
02:15:38,102 --> 02:15:41,505
I don't know why,
and I never have.
2444
02:15:41,538 --> 02:15:43,807
I'm not sure
I even wanna speculate.
2445
02:15:43,840 --> 02:15:48,379
♪ I wish I was a headlight
2446
02:15:48,412 --> 02:15:51,282
♪ On a northbound train
2447
02:15:55,819 --> 02:15:59,723
♪ I wish I was a headlight
2448
02:15:59,756 --> 02:16:03,094
♪ On a northbound train
2449
02:16:07,698 --> 02:16:09,566
♪ I'd shine my light
2450
02:16:09,600 --> 02:16:15,439
♪ Through the cool
Colorado rain ♪
2451
02:16:15,472 --> 02:16:17,741
Barlow: Something that
wasn't in the movie was,
2452
02:16:17,774 --> 02:16:20,344
behind the scenes,
2453
02:16:20,377 --> 02:16:22,746
there was actually
kind of a war going on
2454
02:16:22,779 --> 02:16:26,683
between the acid heads
and the coke freaks.
2455
02:16:26,717 --> 02:16:29,286
You know, so, one of
the manifestations of this
2456
02:16:29,320 --> 02:16:30,787
that was really hilarious
2457
02:16:30,821 --> 02:16:33,657
was that Rex Jackson
positioned himself
2458
02:16:33,690 --> 02:16:35,626
right at the top
of the stage stair,
2459
02:16:35,659 --> 02:16:38,829
and he wouldn't let you go
on stage unless you took
2460
02:16:38,862 --> 02:16:41,798
another drop out
of the Miriam bottle.
2461
02:16:41,832 --> 02:16:44,711
Parish: His thing was, "Well, I'll tell
you what I'm gonna do tonight, Steve,
2462
02:16:44,735 --> 02:16:47,271
"I'm giving everybody
who comes up these stairs,
2463
02:16:47,304 --> 02:16:50,441
they're gonna get acid, you know,
they're gonna just get LSD up the ass,
2464
02:16:50,474 --> 02:16:53,510
and then they'd better fuckin' behave
themselves, you know, whatever."
2465
02:16:53,544 --> 02:16:58,249
But it wasn't working,
and it was getting crazier.
2466
02:16:58,282 --> 02:17:01,218
You see,
he was trying to hold on to
2467
02:17:01,252 --> 02:17:04,888
the camaraderie
of the early Grateful Dead.
2468
02:17:04,921 --> 02:17:09,326
Barlow: And sure, it was a great way
to keep the coke freaks off the stage.
2469
02:17:09,360 --> 02:17:13,330
But it was also a great way
to make the music become
2470
02:17:13,364 --> 02:17:15,566
increasingly more psychedelic.
2471
02:17:27,344 --> 02:17:29,813
♪ Well, I know you rider
2472
02:17:29,846 --> 02:17:32,549
♪ Gonna miss me when
2473
02:17:32,583 --> 02:17:35,552
Lesh: I did not want
to take a break.
2474
02:17:35,586 --> 02:17:37,688
I was so into it,
and it was just developing,
2475
02:17:37,721 --> 02:17:39,856
and it was getting better
and better and better,
2476
02:17:39,890 --> 02:17:42,259
and I was having
the time of my life.
2477
02:17:42,293 --> 02:17:44,595
♪ Gonna miss me
2478
02:17:44,628 --> 02:17:48,265
My fear was,
once we took a break,
2479
02:17:48,299 --> 02:17:49,900
it might not come back
together again.
2480
02:17:52,369 --> 02:17:54,938
And the Grateful Dead is the best
thing that ever happened to me
2481
02:17:54,971 --> 02:17:57,208
until I met my wife.
2482
02:17:57,241 --> 02:18:00,211
And I did not want to let it go.
2483
02:18:00,244 --> 02:18:03,880
Not even for a minute.
2484
02:18:52,996 --> 02:18:54,898
Huh?
2485
02:19:29,032 --> 02:19:31,668
Lesh: From 1967 on,
it was constant.
2486
02:19:34,004 --> 02:19:37,007
We averaged 80 shows
a year, on the road.
2487
02:19:38,675 --> 02:19:41,678
I guess people were
just getting tired.
2488
02:19:43,980 --> 02:19:48,585
Well, what happened was that
everybody sort of went their...
2489
02:19:48,619 --> 02:19:52,356
Their separate ways
to let things cool out.
2490
02:19:54,725 --> 02:19:56,627
Never waste a drop.
2491
02:19:56,660 --> 02:19:59,496
Weir: And that period of rest
2492
02:19:59,530 --> 02:20:02,466
really kind of saved us.
2493
02:20:02,499 --> 02:20:05,536
It's not just momentary fatigue
that you're running down,
2494
02:20:05,569 --> 02:20:07,704
and you look back
on your lifestyle,
2495
02:20:07,738 --> 02:20:09,916
and you can pretty clearly see
what's been doing it to you,
2496
02:20:09,940 --> 02:20:14,311
then prudence decrees that you're
gonna have to alter your lifestyle,
2497
02:20:14,345 --> 02:20:16,713
or you're not gonna
make it very far.
2498
02:20:16,747 --> 02:20:19,650
I don't think that I can
really fairly expect
2499
02:20:19,683 --> 02:20:21,852
to live for a long time
if I'm on the road
2500
02:20:21,885 --> 02:20:23,620
six months out of the year.
2501
02:20:26,390 --> 02:20:27,958
That's hard on you.
2502
02:20:35,666 --> 02:20:37,468
When the Grateful Dead
took a break,
2503
02:20:37,501 --> 02:20:39,436
we didn't stop for a second.
2504
02:20:39,470 --> 02:20:41,872
Not me and Jerry.
We just went right into the Garcia band.
2505
02:20:41,905 --> 02:20:43,474
We kept going.
2506
02:20:43,507 --> 02:20:45,709
♪ Later on,
the bottom dropped out ♪
2507
02:20:45,742 --> 02:20:48,412
♪ I became withdrawn
2508
02:20:48,445 --> 02:20:50,981
♪ The only thing
I knew how to do ♪
2509
02:20:51,014 --> 02:20:53,717
♪ Was to keep on keepin' on
like a bird that flew ♪
2510
02:20:55,752 --> 02:20:59,356
♪ Tangled up in blue
2511
02:20:59,390 --> 02:21:01,925
Parish: We were playing
nightclubs night after night.
2512
02:21:01,958 --> 02:21:04,995
Putting all our energy into it.
2513
02:21:05,028 --> 02:21:08,732
You see, Jerry just wanted
to be a guitar player.
2514
02:21:08,765 --> 02:21:12,836
He wanted to play
as much as he could.
2515
02:21:12,869 --> 02:21:15,372
So we never stopped
for one second.
2516
02:21:15,406 --> 02:21:17,617
Announcer: Ladies and gentlemen
and the Deadheads of the world,
2517
02:21:17,641 --> 02:21:18,875
the Grateful Dead!
2518
02:21:27,451 --> 02:21:31,087
Weir: When we came back
together,
2519
02:21:31,121 --> 02:21:34,024
everybody had
a bigger bag of tricks
2520
02:21:34,057 --> 02:21:36,092
to bring back to the fold.
2521
02:21:38,028 --> 02:21:40,764
And that was really
a golden era for us.
2522
02:21:42,999 --> 02:21:44,835
You could pretty much
walk into a show
2523
02:21:44,868 --> 02:21:49,773
and expect that we were
going to achieve liftoff.
2524
02:21:49,806 --> 02:21:53,877
We were... We were
pretty damn reliable.
2525
02:21:53,910 --> 02:21:55,646
♪ Oh, go
2526
02:21:55,679 --> 02:21:57,147
♪ Go, Johnny, go
2527
02:21:57,180 --> 02:21:58,181
♪ Go
2528
02:21:58,214 --> 02:21:59,883
♪ Go, Johnny, go
2529
02:21:59,916 --> 02:22:02,018
♪ Go go go
2530
02:22:02,052 --> 02:22:03,987
♪ Go, Johnny, go
2531
02:22:04,020 --> 02:22:05,889
♪ Go, Johnny, go
2532
02:22:05,922 --> 02:22:07,991
♪ Go
2533
02:22:08,024 --> 02:22:09,125
♪ Johnny B. Goode
2534
02:22:13,864 --> 02:22:15,766
Lesh:
That period, the late '70s,
2535
02:22:15,799 --> 02:22:18,635
were extraordinarily productive,
2536
02:22:18,669 --> 02:22:20,537
and some of the most
popular shows
2537
02:22:20,571 --> 02:22:23,940
that we've ever played
are from that period.
2538
02:22:25,108 --> 02:22:27,444
At the same time,
2539
02:22:27,478 --> 02:22:29,012
something wasn't right.
2540
02:22:30,814 --> 02:22:33,617
That's just from my perspective.
2541
02:22:33,650 --> 02:22:35,886
But something fundamental...
2542
02:22:35,919 --> 02:22:38,555
There was a...
There was a kind of hole
2543
02:22:38,589 --> 02:22:40,791
in the whole thing somehow.
2544
02:22:45,562 --> 02:22:47,063
Barlow:
We did do the Egypt thing,
2545
02:22:47,097 --> 02:22:49,866
which I think was a huge,
2546
02:22:49,900 --> 02:22:53,203
huge thing for creating a sense
2547
02:22:53,236 --> 02:22:56,673
of solidarity
and mystical purpose
2548
02:22:56,707 --> 02:22:58,909
for just about everybody.
2549
02:23:00,811 --> 02:23:04,080
But, oh God, it was just...
2550
02:23:04,114 --> 02:23:06,483
There was all manner
of wickedness.
2551
02:23:06,517 --> 02:23:09,586
♪ Long distance runner
2552
02:23:09,620 --> 02:23:11,221
♪ What you holdin' out for?
2553
02:23:11,254 --> 02:23:15,559
Parish: As darker drugs
moved into the scene,
2554
02:23:15,592 --> 02:23:18,595
it became more about trying
to protect your brothers
2555
02:23:18,629 --> 02:23:22,499
from falling too deep into
things that you knew about.
2556
02:23:22,533 --> 02:23:24,801
I was a streetwise kid,
2557
02:23:24,835 --> 02:23:26,178
and I knew everything
that happened
2558
02:23:26,202 --> 02:23:29,205
when you fucked around
with heroin.
2559
02:23:29,239 --> 02:23:32,208
But Jerry,
he got caught up in it.
2560
02:23:32,242 --> 02:23:35,779
♪ The more that you give,
the more it will take ♪
2561
02:23:38,148 --> 02:23:43,687
♪ To the thin line beyond
which you really can't fake ♪
2562
02:23:43,720 --> 02:23:47,858
♪ Fire, fire on the mountain
2563
02:23:50,060 --> 02:23:54,230
♪ Fire, fire on the mountain
2564
02:23:56,299 --> 02:23:58,101
♪ Fire
2565
02:23:58,134 --> 02:24:01,304
Parish: Jerry was the epitome
of the Grateful Dead,
2566
02:24:01,337 --> 02:24:03,874
the heart and soul of it.
2567
02:24:03,907 --> 02:24:07,744
He was responsible
for being the guy
2568
02:24:07,778 --> 02:24:13,083
to keep this whole machination
that we have built goin'.
2569
02:24:13,116 --> 02:24:15,251
And it's hard
to live up to that.
2570
02:24:17,287 --> 02:24:19,656
The drugs that go along
with being that person
2571
02:24:19,690 --> 02:24:25,796
are not conducive
to health and life.
2572
02:24:25,829 --> 02:24:28,865
Barlow: You know,
we were asking ourselves
2573
02:24:28,899 --> 02:24:33,103
to maintain a kind of
creative openness
2574
02:24:33,136 --> 02:24:37,140
and leaning-into-it-ness...
2575
02:24:37,173 --> 02:24:40,076
and passion and all that stuff.
2576
02:24:43,013 --> 02:24:46,116
As we got older,
it just got harder.
2577
02:24:49,620 --> 02:24:52,055
And it was all kind of
gathering ourselves up
2578
02:24:52,088 --> 02:24:54,625
for what was gonna be...
2579
02:24:54,658 --> 02:24:56,259
What turned out to be our...
2580
02:24:56,292 --> 02:24:57,861
You know, our big decade,
2581
02:24:57,894 --> 02:25:01,598
which was the '80s,
going into the nineties.
2582
02:25:24,129 --> 02:25:26,431
I hope there are people
watching this documentary
2583
02:25:26,465 --> 02:25:28,133
who don't know the Dead
2584
02:25:28,167 --> 02:25:30,602
or are just being
introduced to the Dead.
2585
02:25:30,635 --> 02:25:32,404
And I think you're gonna ask me
2586
02:25:32,437 --> 02:25:34,006
about some... I don't know...
2587
02:25:34,039 --> 02:25:35,841
What you're gonna
ask me about, but...
2588
02:25:51,190 --> 02:25:53,458
Prankster: Tonight's acid
test will remain in part
2589
02:25:53,492 --> 02:25:55,560
from its paralysis voyage
into the void
2590
02:25:55,594 --> 02:25:57,129
for the remainder of the night.
2591
02:25:57,162 --> 02:25:59,064
That's right. Just a...
2592
02:25:59,098 --> 02:26:00,375
- Hey, Bear.
- Get off the stage, will you?
2593
02:26:00,399 --> 02:26:01,566
What's that?
2594
02:26:01,600 --> 02:26:03,235
Al Franken:
Are you gonna have,
2595
02:26:03,268 --> 02:26:05,337
like, an animated Jerry
over your shoulder
2596
02:26:05,370 --> 02:26:08,473
going like,
"Oh, I wouldn't do that"?
2597
02:26:10,242 --> 02:26:12,644
Is that like an idea
you can put in the movie?
2598
02:26:20,920 --> 02:26:23,555
I'm not a Grateful Dead scholar.
2599
02:26:23,588 --> 02:26:26,125
I'm a Grateful Dead fan.
2600
02:26:28,027 --> 02:26:29,428
You know...
2601
02:26:30,562 --> 02:26:31,562
I'm a Deadhead.
2602
02:26:33,665 --> 02:26:35,367
We caught up with the band
2603
02:26:35,400 --> 02:26:36,601
in Hartford, Connecticut,
2604
02:26:36,635 --> 02:26:40,039
and their fans
called the Deadheads.
2605
02:26:40,072 --> 02:26:42,374
Perhaps as important
as the Dead themselves...
2606
02:26:42,407 --> 02:26:43,475
The Deadheads.
2607
02:26:43,508 --> 02:26:45,277
Self-described Deadheads
2608
02:26:45,310 --> 02:26:47,446
who are undoubtedly
the most enthusiastic cult...
2609
02:26:47,479 --> 02:26:49,090
Male reporter: Deadheads...
A faithful following
2610
02:26:49,114 --> 02:26:51,516
that comes here again
and again for the music,
2611
02:26:51,550 --> 02:26:54,386
but at the same time
a whole lot more.
2612
02:26:54,419 --> 02:26:56,355
Man: Yep.
They're Deadheads.
2613
02:27:00,425 --> 02:27:02,627
McNally: In, uh, 1984,
2614
02:27:02,661 --> 02:27:04,964
I became the Grateful Dead's
publicist.
2615
02:27:04,997 --> 02:27:06,631
We'll start in about 15 minutes.
2616
02:27:06,665 --> 02:27:10,569
I got hired because the
receptionist said, "You know,
2617
02:27:10,602 --> 02:27:12,571
"the media calls,
and nobody calls them back,
2618
02:27:12,604 --> 02:27:15,407
and they yell at me,
and I don't like it."
2619
02:27:15,440 --> 02:27:18,577
And Garcia said, "Ah, get McNally to do it.
He knows that shit."
2620
02:27:20,379 --> 02:27:23,015
By the middle 1980s,
2621
02:27:23,048 --> 02:27:24,950
the people of my generation,
2622
02:27:24,984 --> 02:27:27,419
all these people are now
in their middle 30s.
2623
02:27:27,452 --> 02:27:28,954
They have careers.
2624
02:27:28,988 --> 02:27:31,056
Some of them are in the media.
2625
02:27:31,090 --> 02:27:33,692
They not only know
about the Grateful Dead,
2626
02:27:33,725 --> 02:27:35,260
they want to cover
the Grateful Dead,
2627
02:27:35,294 --> 02:27:36,628
and they want
to do it positively.
2628
02:27:36,661 --> 02:27:39,064
So they're gonna send a camera.
2629
02:27:39,098 --> 02:27:41,433
The Grateful Dead
are one of the...
2630
02:27:41,466 --> 02:27:43,302
The press would arrive.
2631
02:27:43,335 --> 02:27:46,972
They would be assaulted
by this incredible scene...
2632
02:27:49,008 --> 02:27:50,442
...and suddenly
the story became
2633
02:27:50,475 --> 02:27:53,212
not the band but Deadheads.
2634
02:27:54,546 --> 02:27:57,649
And everybody
had the same question.
2635
02:27:57,682 --> 02:28:00,019
Man: Okay, what is it
about the Grateful Dead?
2636
02:28:00,052 --> 02:28:02,454
What is it about the Grateful
Dead that brings you here?
2637
02:28:02,487 --> 02:28:03,688
Woman:
Why are you a Deadhead?
2638
02:28:03,722 --> 02:28:05,090
Why am I a Deadhead?
2639
02:28:05,124 --> 02:28:06,625
Wow. What is this for?
Is this, like,
2640
02:28:06,658 --> 02:28:08,727
just for your own
personal satisfaction,
2641
02:28:08,760 --> 02:28:10,062
or is this like...
2642
02:28:12,564 --> 02:28:16,268
Wow, that's weird. Wow.
Do you, like... Is this fun?
2643
02:28:21,073 --> 02:28:22,374
Box slate.
2644
02:28:23,642 --> 02:28:25,610
Back to the Grateful Dead.
2645
02:28:28,347 --> 02:28:32,117
In the 1980s, I had retired,
2646
02:28:32,151 --> 02:28:34,619
and I wanted to write a book.
2647
02:28:34,653 --> 02:28:36,488
And so for two years
2648
02:28:36,521 --> 02:28:38,423
I took this tape recorder out
2649
02:28:38,457 --> 02:28:41,460
and started to do
these interviews.
2650
02:28:44,263 --> 02:28:46,165
Joe Smith on tape:
Jerry, thank you for this.
2651
02:28:46,198 --> 02:28:47,708
- You know I'm doing this book.
- Garcia: Yeah.
2652
02:28:47,732 --> 02:28:49,401
And you're a very key
player in it,
2653
02:28:49,434 --> 02:28:51,303
so I if you got a few minutes
2654
02:28:51,336 --> 02:28:53,172
- I'd just like to talk.
- Absolutely, man.
2655
02:28:53,205 --> 02:28:55,340
You know, I, I have such
a fond feeling for you guys.
2656
02:28:55,374 --> 02:28:57,176
Smith: Well, this is
years later, you know,
2657
02:28:57,209 --> 02:28:58,643
and all the venom
2658
02:28:58,677 --> 02:29:00,612
that had been taken
out of the relationship...
2659
02:29:00,645 --> 02:29:03,382
Smith: Why is it
that this one aggregation,
2660
02:29:03,415 --> 02:29:04,816
this one combination,
2661
02:29:04,849 --> 02:29:07,586
can continue to do it
23, 24 years later
2662
02:29:07,619 --> 02:29:10,089
with audiences that weren't
alive the first time around.
2663
02:29:10,122 --> 02:29:12,124
- Right.
- What is it that you guys got?
2664
02:29:12,157 --> 02:29:13,658
I haven't the slightest
idea, Joe.
2665
02:29:13,692 --> 02:29:15,794
It is one of the great
phenomenons
2666
02:29:15,827 --> 02:29:17,562
of the entertainment world.
2667
02:29:17,596 --> 02:29:19,331
I think now,
during the eighties,
2668
02:29:19,364 --> 02:29:22,567
the Grateful Dead kind of
represents something
2669
02:29:22,601 --> 02:29:25,204
like hopping railroads,
you know what I mean?
2670
02:29:25,237 --> 02:29:26,647
- Yeah.
- Some... Something like that,
2671
02:29:26,671 --> 02:29:28,273
or being on the road
like Kerouac.
2672
02:29:28,307 --> 02:29:30,109
- Yeah, yeah.
- It... it...
2673
02:29:30,142 --> 02:29:31,852
But you can't do those
types of things anymore,
2674
02:29:31,876 --> 02:29:33,545
but you can be a Deadhead.
2675
02:29:33,578 --> 02:29:35,247
You can get in your van
2676
02:29:35,280 --> 02:29:36,520
and go with the other Deadheads
2677
02:29:36,548 --> 02:29:38,317
across the United States.
2678
02:29:38,350 --> 02:29:40,051
"Now, that looks
like fun," you know?
2679
02:29:42,454 --> 02:29:44,123
You have your war stories,
you know?
2680
02:29:44,156 --> 02:29:45,524
- Yeah.
- Stories about the time
2681
02:29:45,557 --> 02:29:47,326
that you were driving
through Des Plains
2682
02:29:47,359 --> 02:29:49,528
in the middle of the night,
got four flat tires,
2683
02:29:49,561 --> 02:29:51,430
and some farmer helped you out
2684
02:29:51,463 --> 02:29:52,831
and put you up and...
2685
02:29:52,864 --> 02:29:54,399
I think that's
2686
02:29:54,433 --> 02:29:56,601
what motivates
the audience now...
2687
02:29:56,635 --> 02:29:59,538
The spirit of being
able to go out
2688
02:29:59,571 --> 02:30:01,506
and have an adventure
in America at large,
2689
02:30:01,540 --> 02:30:02,774
you know what I mean?
2690
02:30:02,807 --> 02:30:04,376
Woman: We're here.
2691
02:30:07,346 --> 02:30:10,749
We were chasing your ass
all the way across country.
2692
02:30:10,782 --> 02:30:13,385
Man: We've been chasing you
from fucking Nebraska.
2693
02:30:13,418 --> 02:30:14,862
Garcia: The whole thing
is that Deadheads
2694
02:30:14,886 --> 02:30:16,821
have a certain
sense of adventure,
2695
02:30:16,855 --> 02:30:19,524
and it's tough
to come by adventure
2696
02:30:19,558 --> 02:30:22,461
in this new, lame America.
2697
02:30:22,494 --> 02:30:24,429
Male reporter: Roll over,
Boogaloo Shrimp.
2698
02:30:24,463 --> 02:30:26,431
That's the First Lady
Nancy Reagan
2699
02:30:26,465 --> 02:30:28,333
trying out some
break dance steps today
2700
02:30:28,367 --> 02:30:30,735
on a visit to a New York
rehab home for teens.
2701
02:30:30,769 --> 02:30:33,305
Now she ready
to slip on some tie-dye
2702
02:30:33,338 --> 02:30:35,340
and go to a Dead concert.
2703
02:30:35,374 --> 02:30:39,511
McNally: Ronald Reagan is
president in the eighties,
2704
02:30:39,544 --> 02:30:43,215
and the great reaction
had begun.
2705
02:30:43,248 --> 02:30:44,749
As a matter of fact,
I have here...
2706
02:30:44,783 --> 02:30:46,651
The reaction
against the sixties.
2707
02:30:46,685 --> 02:30:48,520
...District Attorney
of Alameda County.
2708
02:30:48,553 --> 02:30:50,355
It concerns a dance...
2709
02:30:50,389 --> 02:30:52,424
Ronald Reagan ran as governor
2710
02:30:52,457 --> 02:30:55,294
and as president
against the sixties,
2711
02:30:55,327 --> 02:30:56,495
and it worked.
2712
02:30:56,528 --> 02:30:57,796
Three rock and roll bands
2713
02:30:57,829 --> 02:30:59,631
were in the center
of the gymnasium
2714
02:30:59,664 --> 02:31:01,376
playing simultaneously
all during the dance.
2715
02:31:01,400 --> 02:31:02,701
And all during the dance,
2716
02:31:02,734 --> 02:31:05,237
movies were shown on two screens
2717
02:31:05,270 --> 02:31:07,639
at the opposite ends
of the gymnasium.
2718
02:31:07,672 --> 02:31:10,709
These movies were the only
lights in the gym proper.
2719
02:31:10,742 --> 02:31:12,611
They consisted
of color sequences
2720
02:31:12,644 --> 02:31:14,746
that gave the appearance
of different-colored liquid
2721
02:31:14,779 --> 02:31:16,548
spreading across the screen,
2722
02:31:16,581 --> 02:31:18,950
followed by shots of men
and women on occasion,
2723
02:31:18,983 --> 02:31:21,453
shots where the men
and women's nude torsos,
2724
02:31:21,486 --> 02:31:22,821
on occasion,
2725
02:31:22,854 --> 02:31:24,889
and persons twisted and gyrated
2726
02:31:24,923 --> 02:31:26,625
in provocative
and sensual fashion.
2727
02:31:26,658 --> 02:31:28,603
- ♪ When I married me a bad girl... ♪
- The young...
2728
02:31:28,627 --> 02:31:30,362
McNally: A certain
proportion of Americans
2729
02:31:30,395 --> 02:31:32,364
say "No, we don't think so,"
2730
02:31:32,397 --> 02:31:33,965
and run away to join the circus
2731
02:31:33,998 --> 02:31:35,634
and follow the Grateful Dead.
2732
02:31:35,667 --> 02:31:37,969
♪ Never even put
a stew bone in the pot ♪
2733
02:31:38,002 --> 02:31:40,472
♪ She's on the road again
2734
02:31:40,505 --> 02:31:42,207
♪ Sure as you're born
2735
02:31:42,241 --> 02:31:44,876
♪ Catch a policeman
on the road again ♪
2736
02:31:44,909 --> 02:31:46,945
♪ She's on the road again
2737
02:31:46,978 --> 02:31:48,880
♪ Sure as you're born
2738
02:31:50,415 --> 02:31:51,916
The whole world that, you know,
2739
02:31:51,950 --> 02:31:53,918
kind of, Jack Kerouac
and the Beat Generation
2740
02:31:53,952 --> 02:31:55,387
had risen up against,
2741
02:31:55,420 --> 02:31:57,456
was still kind of
there, you know,
2742
02:31:57,489 --> 02:32:00,359
pressing everybody,
but in new forms.
2743
02:32:00,392 --> 02:32:02,294
But when you went
to a Grateful Dead show...
2744
02:32:03,662 --> 02:32:06,698
you would glimpse
over a kind of horizon
2745
02:32:06,731 --> 02:32:09,501
of, uh, you know, American crap
2746
02:32:09,534 --> 02:32:12,271
that was usually
all you got to see.
2747
02:32:12,304 --> 02:32:13,638
♪ Come on, pretty mama
2748
02:32:13,672 --> 02:32:15,474
♪ Let's get on the road again ♪
2749
02:32:15,507 --> 02:32:17,242
McNally: It wasn't
for everybody, you know.
2750
02:32:17,276 --> 02:32:19,344
It was an acquired taste.
2751
02:32:19,378 --> 02:32:21,646
♪ Catch a policeman
on the road again ♪
2752
02:32:21,680 --> 02:32:22,981
In the early 1980s,
2753
02:32:23,014 --> 02:32:25,884
the Grateful Dead
were still very much
2754
02:32:25,917 --> 02:32:28,387
an underground phenomenon.
2755
02:32:28,420 --> 02:32:32,824
Deadheads became Deadheads
by being mentored.
2756
02:32:32,857 --> 02:32:36,361
You'd have an elder
sibling or friend,
2757
02:32:36,395 --> 02:32:38,363
and he would turn you on
to the Dead.
2758
02:32:40,699 --> 02:32:43,602
I had friends
who would give me acid
2759
02:32:43,635 --> 02:32:44,936
and then play Aoxomoxoa.
2760
02:32:44,969 --> 02:32:47,038
Aoxomoxoa: it's a palindrome.
2761
02:32:47,071 --> 02:32:48,940
One of their most wild
experimental albums.
2762
02:32:50,074 --> 02:32:51,576
And then I had another friend
2763
02:32:51,610 --> 02:32:53,712
who would play me Europe '72.
2764
02:32:55,447 --> 02:32:58,750
And I remember listening
to the transition
2765
02:32:58,783 --> 02:33:02,654
where out of the chaos
2766
02:33:02,687 --> 02:33:05,657
condenses
"The Morning Dew."
2767
02:33:08,693 --> 02:33:11,062
And so that sort of
beguiled me enough
2768
02:33:11,095 --> 02:33:12,397
to go to my first show.
2769
02:33:19,371 --> 02:33:20,639
Whoo!
2770
02:33:20,672 --> 02:33:21,782
Steve Silberman:
And I remember,
2771
02:33:21,806 --> 02:33:23,442
like, 20 minutes into this show,
2772
02:33:23,475 --> 02:33:25,910
I'm hearing this
incredible improvisation
2773
02:33:25,944 --> 02:33:27,679
on electric bass
2774
02:33:27,712 --> 02:33:30,715
played through
quadraphonic speakers
2775
02:33:30,749 --> 02:33:33,552
and Phil moving notes around
2776
02:33:33,585 --> 02:33:36,621
in three dimensions
through the audience.
2777
02:33:36,655 --> 02:33:39,391
Like, I had never
seen anybody do that.
2778
02:33:49,834 --> 02:33:52,671
And I remember
thinking, like, My God,
2779
02:33:52,704 --> 02:33:54,944
this is, like, the best music
I've ever heard in my life.
2780
02:33:56,608 --> 02:33:58,009
This is for me.
2781
02:33:59,711 --> 02:34:02,013
I want to see this
as much as I can.
2782
02:34:03,615 --> 02:34:07,719
♪ Sometimes we live
in no particular way ♪
2783
02:34:07,752 --> 02:34:08,987
♪ But our own
2784
02:34:09,020 --> 02:34:10,989
And so I basically started going
2785
02:34:11,022 --> 02:34:12,557
to see them whenever I could.
2786
02:34:12,591 --> 02:34:15,794
♪ Sometimes we visit
your country ♪
2787
02:34:15,827 --> 02:34:18,397
♪ And live in your home
2788
02:34:21,900 --> 02:34:25,604
♪ Sometimes we ride
on your horses ♪
2789
02:34:25,637 --> 02:34:30,074
♪ Sometimes we walk alone
2790
02:34:30,108 --> 02:34:34,012
♪ Sometimes the songs
that we hear ♪
2791
02:34:34,045 --> 02:34:36,047
♪ Are just songs of our own
2792
02:34:39,584 --> 02:34:41,720
♪ Wake up to find out...
2793
02:34:41,753 --> 02:34:43,522
Silberman:
You know, I was surrounded
2794
02:34:43,555 --> 02:34:45,890
by this incredibly complicated
2795
02:34:45,924 --> 02:34:49,494
and incredibly well
established social structure.
2796
02:34:49,528 --> 02:34:52,163
♪ It's speeches,
it's homeland and... ♪
2797
02:34:52,196 --> 02:34:56,401
The physical layout
of a Grateful Dead show
2798
02:34:56,435 --> 02:34:59,037
was like a mandala
with different regions.
2799
02:35:03,041 --> 02:35:05,009
And if you look at a mandala
2800
02:35:05,043 --> 02:35:08,079
in traditional Tibetan Buddhism,
2801
02:35:08,112 --> 02:35:09,948
there are, like,
these different sectors
2802
02:35:09,981 --> 02:35:11,850
of the mandala.
2803
02:35:11,883 --> 02:35:15,454
You know, here are
the angry gods,
2804
02:35:15,487 --> 02:35:17,856
here are the people suffering.
2805
02:35:21,092 --> 02:35:24,028
Grateful Dead shows
were like a mandala.
2806
02:35:27,031 --> 02:35:30,435
You know, people knew
where they would sit.
2807
02:35:30,469 --> 02:35:33,104
There would be, you know,
the Phil zone people out here
2808
02:35:33,137 --> 02:35:36,775
and then the Jerry side
people over here.
2809
02:35:38,209 --> 02:35:39,711
There would be the deaf zone
2810
02:35:39,744 --> 02:35:42,514
where people would
be holding balloons
2811
02:35:42,547 --> 02:35:47,151
that vibrated with the music
because they could not hear.
2812
02:35:47,185 --> 02:35:49,120
But, by holding the balloons,
2813
02:35:49,153 --> 02:35:51,690
they could literally sense
the vibrations of the music.
2814
02:35:51,723 --> 02:35:53,625
And they would dance,
2815
02:35:53,658 --> 02:35:56,928
and there would be a live
sign language interpreter
2816
02:35:56,961 --> 02:35:59,564
providing interpretation
of the lyrics.
2817
02:36:03,201 --> 02:36:05,770
There was, you know,
a whole crew of Wharf Rats,
2818
02:36:05,804 --> 02:36:08,507
who were people following
the 12-step path,
2819
02:36:08,540 --> 02:36:11,476
who would have meetings
during the set breaks.
2820
02:36:13,845 --> 02:36:16,681
Spinners would be out
in the hall, you know,
2821
02:36:16,715 --> 02:36:19,818
having literally
religious experiences
2822
02:36:19,851 --> 02:36:21,620
because they thought
Garcia was a prophet,
2823
02:36:21,653 --> 02:36:23,588
and they'd be bowing down.
2824
02:36:25,724 --> 02:36:27,225
Or there were tapers.
2825
02:36:27,258 --> 02:36:28,960
They would, you know,
2826
02:36:28,993 --> 02:36:31,462
go there with all their gear
and set up their gear.
2827
02:36:33,064 --> 02:36:35,834
♪ The wind in the willow's
playing "Tea For Two" ♪
2828
02:36:38,737 --> 02:36:42,073
♪ The sky was yellow,
and the sun was blue ♪
2829
02:36:44,743 --> 02:36:47,912
♪ Strangers stopping strangers ♪
2830
02:36:47,946 --> 02:36:50,782
♪ Just to shake their hand
2831
02:36:50,815 --> 02:36:53,752
♪ Everybody's playing
2832
02:36:53,785 --> 02:36:57,656
♪ In the heart of gold band,
heart of gold band ♪
2833
02:36:57,689 --> 02:36:59,824
When I first started
going to Dead shows,
2834
02:36:59,858 --> 02:37:04,863
they didn't yet have explicit
permission from the band,
2835
02:37:04,896 --> 02:37:07,265
so it was still in a sense
a form of bootlegging.
2836
02:37:09,568 --> 02:37:11,169
Weir: Portable
recording equipment
2837
02:37:11,202 --> 02:37:13,204
was getting pretty good.
2838
02:37:13,237 --> 02:37:15,640
And people started
showing up at our shows
2839
02:37:15,674 --> 02:37:17,542
with expensive equipment...
2840
02:37:17,576 --> 02:37:19,778
Nice microphones,
all that kind of stuff...
2841
02:37:19,811 --> 02:37:21,112
Recording the shows,
2842
02:37:21,145 --> 02:37:23,582
and the record company
wanted to, you know,
2843
02:37:23,615 --> 02:37:26,117
"We gotta shut that down,"
uh, you know,
2844
02:37:26,150 --> 02:37:28,119
"because those people are
gonna record your shows,
2845
02:37:28,152 --> 02:37:30,188
and then they're not
gonna buy our records."
2846
02:37:30,221 --> 02:37:32,223
We were confronted
with two options:
2847
02:37:32,256 --> 02:37:35,026
we can either be cops,
or we can let 'em in.
2848
02:37:36,160 --> 02:37:38,630
We didn't want to be cops.
2849
02:37:38,663 --> 02:37:39,864
Whoo!
2850
02:37:39,898 --> 02:37:42,000
♪ Shakin' on Shakedown Street ♪
2851
02:37:44,135 --> 02:37:46,337
♪ Used to be the heart of town ♪
2852
02:37:46,370 --> 02:37:50,008
How do you feel about people
taping Grateful Dead concerts
2853
02:37:50,041 --> 02:37:51,876
and trading the tapes?
2854
02:37:51,910 --> 02:37:53,277
Garcia: Hey,
when I'm done with it,
2855
02:37:53,311 --> 02:37:54,946
if somebody can find
use for our music
2856
02:37:54,979 --> 02:37:56,915
after it's been performed,
fine with me.
2857
02:37:58,049 --> 02:38:00,819
As it turns out, we get credit
2858
02:38:00,852 --> 02:38:04,355
for all kinds of visionary
business practices
2859
02:38:04,388 --> 02:38:05,757
and stuff like that.
2860
02:38:05,790 --> 02:38:07,167
We were just doing
the easiest thing.
2861
02:38:07,191 --> 02:38:08,793
In fact, what happened was,
2862
02:38:08,827 --> 02:38:10,862
this was the greatest promo tool
2863
02:38:10,895 --> 02:38:13,231
in the history of music.
2864
02:38:13,264 --> 02:38:18,136
You give away your music...
Your recorded music,
2865
02:38:18,169 --> 02:38:20,071
and you make your money
on selling tickets.
2866
02:38:20,104 --> 02:38:22,206
♪ Maybe you had
too much too fast ♪
2867
02:38:22,240 --> 02:38:24,108
And since every show
is different,
2868
02:38:24,142 --> 02:38:25,744
you could record every show,
2869
02:38:25,777 --> 02:38:27,254
and you still wouldn't
have heard it all,
2870
02:38:27,278 --> 02:38:29,380
and you'd still want
to go to that next show.
2871
02:38:29,413 --> 02:38:31,215
♪ Maybe you had
too much too fast ♪
2872
02:38:31,249 --> 02:38:33,918
We doubled or tripled
our audience. Why?
2873
02:38:33,952 --> 02:38:34,992
Largely because of taping.
2874
02:38:36,054 --> 02:38:37,054
Yow!
2875
02:38:41,693 --> 02:38:44,863
My generation got into it
mainly through tapes.
2876
02:38:46,297 --> 02:38:48,399
The core of the canon
reached people
2877
02:38:48,432 --> 02:38:50,835
through this hand-traded stuff.
2878
02:38:50,869 --> 02:38:52,804
If this plays, it's a miracle.
2879
02:38:56,775 --> 02:38:58,342
I went to boarding school.
2880
02:38:58,376 --> 02:38:59,978
You know, we were in a place
2881
02:39:00,011 --> 02:39:01,412
where there wasn't
much else to do
2882
02:39:01,445 --> 02:39:02,947
besides, you know, sit around
2883
02:39:02,981 --> 02:39:04,883
and listen to music and talk.
2884
02:39:04,916 --> 02:39:06,985
You start to discover
that some people,
2885
02:39:07,018 --> 02:39:09,153
the older people,
have, you know,
2886
02:39:09,187 --> 02:39:12,724
100, 150, 200
Grateful Dead tapes.
2887
02:39:12,757 --> 02:39:14,726
Well, you listen to one,
2888
02:39:14,759 --> 02:39:16,303
and you begin to understand
what's going on in that tape,
2889
02:39:16,327 --> 02:39:17,896
and you become interested in it.
2890
02:39:17,929 --> 02:39:19,306
You listen to it
over and over again.
2891
02:39:19,330 --> 02:39:21,099
And then you get another one,
2892
02:39:21,132 --> 02:39:22,877
and you begin to learn
what's going on in that one,
2893
02:39:22,901 --> 02:39:24,344
and you begin to understand
the language of that one.
2894
02:39:24,368 --> 02:39:25,870
Play.
2895
02:39:27,371 --> 02:39:29,240
And, you know, over time...
2896
02:39:30,909 --> 02:39:32,243
you build up this collection,
2897
02:39:32,276 --> 02:39:34,012
and you listen to them enough
2898
02:39:34,045 --> 02:39:36,180
so that you begin to see
an arrangement in a sequence
2899
02:39:36,214 --> 02:39:38,382
and a narrative of
the band's performances
2900
02:39:38,416 --> 02:39:40,251
as are represented
by these tapes,
2901
02:39:40,284 --> 02:39:42,854
which, you know,
are little snapshots
2902
02:39:42,887 --> 02:39:45,757
from each year, each tour.
2903
02:39:50,261 --> 02:39:52,072
To start with, you know,
you're not really aware
2904
02:39:52,096 --> 02:39:55,399
of one year being
different from another,
2905
02:39:55,433 --> 02:39:57,736
but after a while, you begin
to say "Oh, you know,
2906
02:39:57,769 --> 02:39:59,137
1971 sounds like this."
2907
02:40:07,211 --> 02:40:09,313
1973 sounds like this.
2908
02:40:14,452 --> 02:40:17,021
Later, you learn
that there was variation
2909
02:40:17,055 --> 02:40:19,958
even within that year, within
that week, within each night.
2910
02:40:22,060 --> 02:40:23,862
I think that's
part of the appeal.
2911
02:40:23,895 --> 02:40:25,339
You start to understand
what's going on in the music.
2912
02:40:25,363 --> 02:40:27,098
You hear the patterns.
2913
02:40:27,131 --> 02:40:29,768
You hear the deviations
from the patterns.
2914
02:40:29,801 --> 02:40:32,804
The differences
between recordings
2915
02:40:32,837 --> 02:40:34,839
makes it seems alive.
2916
02:40:34,873 --> 02:40:37,008
♪ Dancin' in the street
2917
02:40:37,041 --> 02:40:39,410
♪ Dance in Chicago
2918
02:40:39,443 --> 02:40:41,045
You're really hearing
2919
02:40:41,079 --> 02:40:42,781
how each, you know,
musical performance
2920
02:40:42,814 --> 02:40:44,182
represents an evolution
2921
02:40:44,215 --> 02:40:46,084
or devolution
of the band over time.
2922
02:40:46,117 --> 02:40:48,152
♪ Dancin', dancin'
2923
02:40:48,186 --> 02:40:49,988
♪ Dancin' in the streets
2924
02:40:50,021 --> 02:40:52,223
♪ Dancin', dancin'
2925
02:40:52,256 --> 02:40:54,092
♪ dancin' in the streets
2926
02:40:54,125 --> 02:40:55,860
For the discerning Deadhead,
2927
02:40:55,894 --> 02:40:58,296
it's sort of an endlessly
fascinating body of work
2928
02:40:58,329 --> 02:41:01,299
to say this one...
This one's good in this way,
2929
02:41:01,332 --> 02:41:03,201
and this one's
not good in this way.
2930
02:41:03,234 --> 02:41:04,468
You know, this one...
2931
02:41:04,502 --> 02:41:06,270
This one's really good,
and this is why.
2932
02:41:10,474 --> 02:41:12,911
There's a central irony
to the whole thing,
2933
02:41:12,944 --> 02:41:15,513
which is the band that was
sort of most dedicated
2934
02:41:15,546 --> 02:41:17,415
to the ephemeral experience
of playing live,
2935
02:41:17,448 --> 02:41:19,818
performing something once
in a certain way,
2936
02:41:19,851 --> 02:41:21,352
is the band that's been sort of
2937
02:41:21,385 --> 02:41:25,957
most obsessively recorded
and catalogued in history.
2938
02:41:31,095 --> 02:41:34,265
You know, I never had
a great collection.
2939
02:41:34,298 --> 02:41:36,100
In fact, some of the people
2940
02:41:36,134 --> 02:41:37,435
that had the great collections,
2941
02:41:37,468 --> 02:41:38,970
I mean, they were...
2942
02:41:39,003 --> 02:41:40,504
They were weird, you know?
2943
02:41:46,878 --> 02:41:48,212
Al Franken:
You know, I mean,
2944
02:41:48,246 --> 02:41:50,014
I've listened
to a million "Althea" s.
2945
02:41:51,182 --> 02:41:53,885
Now I very much focus on, like,
2946
02:41:53,918 --> 02:41:56,354
what year when
an "Althea" was played.
2947
02:41:57,621 --> 02:42:00,825
The "Althea," uh,
2948
02:42:00,859 --> 02:42:03,294
from, I think it's May, 1980,
2949
02:42:03,327 --> 02:42:05,396
Nassau Coliseum,
2950
02:42:05,429 --> 02:42:10,468
to me is, like,
the most hair-raising solo.
2951
02:42:12,570 --> 02:42:16,074
My God, that solo
is unbelievable.
2952
02:42:19,043 --> 02:42:21,512
It was so unbelievably great.
2953
02:42:25,917 --> 02:42:27,118
You tell me... You...
2954
02:42:27,151 --> 02:42:29,620
Hampton is one of
your favorites, right?
2955
02:42:36,094 --> 02:42:39,030
So I listened
to the "Althea" from that,
2956
02:42:39,063 --> 02:42:42,166
and that has the flavor
of that one,
2957
02:42:42,200 --> 02:42:44,202
but it ain't that one.
2958
02:43:04,255 --> 02:43:05,966
- Did you listen to it?
- Amir Bar Lev: Yeah.
2959
02:43:05,990 --> 02:43:07,992
- Am I right?
- Yeah.
2960
02:43:15,099 --> 02:43:18,436
Only Deadheads would,
like, talk like that.
2961
02:43:23,174 --> 02:43:24,551
Silberman: Believe me,
after you'd heard
2962
02:43:24,575 --> 02:43:27,478
150 versions
of a particular song,
2963
02:43:27,511 --> 02:43:30,448
you'd have a kind of platonic
form of the leads,
2964
02:43:30,481 --> 02:43:32,316
or whatever, like, in your head.
2965
02:43:32,350 --> 02:43:34,986
And then Jerry would play
something slightly better.
2966
02:43:38,389 --> 02:43:41,025
So I would have to sort
of negotiate with myself.
2967
02:43:41,059 --> 02:43:43,962
It would be like, "Well,
I saw the last six shows,
2968
02:43:43,995 --> 02:43:46,497
so do I really need to see
the next two?" you know.
2969
02:43:46,530 --> 02:43:48,632
But inevitably I would
end up, like, hearing
2970
02:43:48,666 --> 02:43:50,410
about what they'd played on
the night that I didn't go,
2971
02:43:50,434 --> 02:43:51,535
and I'd be like, "Fuck."
2972
02:43:51,569 --> 02:43:53,237
The Dead had a way
2973
02:43:53,271 --> 02:43:55,006
of sort of frustrating
your attempts
2974
02:43:55,039 --> 02:43:57,075
to moderate the obsession.
2975
02:43:57,108 --> 02:43:59,277
You guys got any extra
tickets for tonight?
2976
02:43:59,310 --> 02:44:01,045
- I don't have any extra ones...
- Come on.
2977
02:44:01,079 --> 02:44:02,322
- ...for tonight myself.
- You don't?
2978
02:44:02,346 --> 02:44:04,115
But I'm sure they'll be around.
2979
02:44:04,148 --> 02:44:05,459
- You goin'?
- Oh, of course we're goin'.
2980
02:44:05,483 --> 02:44:07,018
All right.
You go last night?
2981
02:44:07,051 --> 02:44:08,619
Oh, yeah.
2982
02:44:08,652 --> 02:44:11,355
Boy, that was a good
jam, wasn't it?
2983
02:44:19,563 --> 02:44:21,032
Man: Where'd you guys
come from?
2984
02:44:21,065 --> 02:44:22,333
Rhode Island.
2985
02:44:22,366 --> 02:44:24,368
All the way from Rhode
Island to see the Dead.
2986
02:44:24,402 --> 02:44:26,037
Took us a week to get here.
2987
02:44:26,070 --> 02:44:27,438
We had a hell of a time, man.
2988
02:44:27,471 --> 02:44:29,673
Two months to get back home.
2989
02:44:29,707 --> 02:44:32,543
I left last week, and it
took six days to get here.
2990
02:44:33,777 --> 02:44:35,646
It was pretty fun on the way.
2991
02:44:35,679 --> 02:44:37,281
Spent Christmas in Arcata.
2992
02:44:37,315 --> 02:44:40,251
Anything within 600 miles
is automatic.
2993
02:44:40,284 --> 02:44:42,020
You can make that in one night
2994
02:44:42,053 --> 02:44:44,288
and still make it to work
in the morning.
2995
02:44:44,322 --> 02:44:46,357
Last night was my 45th
show this year.
2996
02:44:46,390 --> 02:44:48,459
I make almost all
the shows of the year.
2997
02:44:48,492 --> 02:44:51,262
I drive that big Ford.
2998
02:44:51,295 --> 02:44:53,664
And you guys, uh,
off the record,
2999
02:44:53,697 --> 02:44:55,566
are welcome to smoke
a joint with us.
3000
02:44:57,468 --> 02:44:59,103
But I really need
a miracle for tonight,
3001
02:44:59,137 --> 02:45:01,339
you know, like, I'd like
to be holdin' a ticket.
3002
02:45:01,372 --> 02:45:03,307
You know what I mean?
I really would.
3003
02:45:03,341 --> 02:45:06,610
♪ I need a miracle every day
3004
02:45:06,644 --> 02:45:08,146
Got any tickets?
3005
02:45:08,179 --> 02:45:10,148
♪ It takes dynamite
to get me up ♪
3006
02:45:10,181 --> 02:45:12,650
Help me, please!
3007
02:45:12,683 --> 02:45:15,553
♪ Too much of everything
is just enough ♪
3008
02:45:15,586 --> 02:45:19,523
♪ One more thing
I just got to say ♪
3009
02:45:19,557 --> 02:45:23,094
♪ I need a miracle every day
3010
02:45:25,363 --> 02:45:28,399
You know, I started going
to see them in 1984,
3011
02:45:28,432 --> 02:45:30,601
and I remember
at that point, they still...
3012
02:45:30,634 --> 02:45:32,736
Still were a strange,
3013
02:45:32,770 --> 02:45:35,273
forgotten, almost sixties cult
3014
02:45:35,306 --> 02:45:37,108
that was sort of shambling
around America
3015
02:45:37,141 --> 02:45:39,477
pretty much ignored
by the culture at large.
3016
02:45:41,179 --> 02:45:45,049
It was a pretty intense,
small scene.
3017
02:45:45,083 --> 02:45:47,318
It was overwhelming,
and it was kind of scary.
3018
02:45:47,351 --> 02:45:49,187
We were 15.
3019
02:45:49,220 --> 02:45:51,122
You know, I was sort of
a clean-cut kid,
3020
02:45:51,155 --> 02:45:53,424
and it was not a clean-cut
scene necessarily.
3021
02:45:53,457 --> 02:45:55,059
What'cha need?
3022
02:45:55,093 --> 02:45:59,497
The sense of menace
was always there.
3023
02:45:59,530 --> 02:46:01,365
Which I didn't quite
understand myself.
3024
02:46:01,399 --> 02:46:02,476
You know, the bikers
that would go,
3025
02:46:02,500 --> 02:46:03,734
rough guys, there were drunks.
3026
02:46:03,767 --> 02:46:05,503
I didn't, kind of,
get that part.
3027
02:46:05,536 --> 02:46:06,737
Fuck off, you.
3028
02:46:06,770 --> 02:46:08,406
Franken: You know,
I'm a very,
3029
02:46:08,439 --> 02:46:10,308
you know, gentle person.
3030
02:46:10,341 --> 02:46:12,810
Nick Paumgarten: And sometimes
it was just a madhouse.
3031
02:46:12,843 --> 02:46:16,614
So that... that aspect of it
just frightened me.
3032
02:46:18,549 --> 02:46:19,750
I remember, sort of,
3033
02:46:19,783 --> 02:46:21,285
survival was sort of the thing
3034
02:46:21,319 --> 02:46:22,786
when I went to shows...
3035
02:46:22,820 --> 02:46:26,290
Surviving the crowds
and the bathroom lines.
3036
02:46:27,358 --> 02:46:28,592
Franken:
I couldn't go
3037
02:46:28,626 --> 02:46:29,827
to the bathroom there.
3038
02:46:29,860 --> 02:46:32,196
And, I remember, like, Deadheads
3039
02:46:32,230 --> 02:46:34,598
who were barefoot going in
3040
02:46:34,632 --> 02:46:36,234
to go the bathroom,
3041
02:46:36,267 --> 02:46:38,402
and I was, like, going like...
3042
02:46:38,436 --> 02:46:40,638
I can't handle that.
3043
02:46:42,273 --> 02:46:43,774
Man: Thank you.
Thank you very much.
3044
02:46:43,807 --> 02:46:45,709
- Thank you.
- Welcome in, folks.
3045
02:46:45,743 --> 02:46:48,812
Walk, walk, walk.
Don't run, don't run!
3046
02:46:48,846 --> 02:46:50,181
- Walk.
- Here you go.
3047
02:46:52,716 --> 02:46:54,552
Paumgarten:
It was not like, you know,
3048
02:46:54,585 --> 02:46:56,120
being a middle-aged guy
3049
02:46:56,154 --> 02:46:58,189
going to see a show
with your seat number
3050
02:46:58,222 --> 02:47:00,558
and showing up
and maybe getting an IPA
3051
02:47:00,591 --> 02:47:01,892
and being shown to your seat
3052
02:47:01,925 --> 02:47:03,527
and sitting there
and being like, "Oh,
3053
02:47:03,561 --> 02:47:05,496
this is a nice presentation
of decent music."
3054
02:47:05,529 --> 02:47:08,566
It was... It was...
It was an adventure.
3055
02:47:12,936 --> 02:47:14,638
♪ Well, I was feelin'
3056
02:47:15,906 --> 02:47:17,375
♪ So bad now
3057
02:47:19,343 --> 02:47:22,580
♪ Asked my family doctor
'bout what I had done ♪
3058
02:47:23,881 --> 02:47:25,316
♪ I said now, Doctor
3059
02:47:25,349 --> 02:47:26,584
♪ Doctor
3060
02:47:26,617 --> 02:47:27,651
♪ Mr. M.D.
3061
02:47:27,685 --> 02:47:29,220
♪ Doctor
3062
02:47:29,253 --> 02:47:30,621
♪ Ow, can you tell me
3063
02:47:30,654 --> 02:47:31,855
♪ Doctor
3064
02:47:31,889 --> 02:47:33,291
♪ What's ailing me
3065
02:47:33,324 --> 02:47:34,658
♪ Doctor
3066
02:47:34,692 --> 02:47:36,727
♪ He said Yeah, yeah, yeah
3067
02:47:36,760 --> 02:47:38,329
♪ Yeah, yeah
3068
02:47:38,362 --> 02:47:40,364
♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪
3069
02:47:40,398 --> 02:47:41,399
♪ All you need
3070
02:47:42,766 --> 02:47:45,303
♪ All you really need
3071
02:47:45,336 --> 02:47:46,904
♪ Is good lovin'
3072
02:47:46,937 --> 02:47:48,406
♪ Because you got
to have lovin' ♪
3073
02:47:48,439 --> 02:47:49,773
Weir: And as the years
went by...
3074
02:47:49,807 --> 02:47:51,509
♪ Well, you got to have lovin' ♪
3075
02:47:51,542 --> 02:47:52,676
we just got better at it.
3076
02:47:52,710 --> 02:47:54,245
♪ A little bit of lovin'
3077
02:47:54,278 --> 02:47:55,379
♪ Good lovin'
3078
02:47:55,413 --> 02:47:56,614
And then,
3079
02:47:56,647 --> 02:47:58,916
when Brent started
playing with us,
3080
02:47:58,949 --> 02:48:01,352
we had three really good,
strong singers.
3081
02:48:01,385 --> 02:48:03,521
We could really knock it
out of the park
3082
02:48:03,554 --> 02:48:05,189
with our choral vocals.
3083
02:48:05,223 --> 02:48:06,457
♪ Don't you want your daddy
3084
02:48:06,490 --> 02:48:07,791
♪ To be all right?
3085
02:48:07,825 --> 02:48:09,503
Paumgarten: After Keith
and Donna Jean Godchaux
3086
02:48:09,527 --> 02:48:10,694
left the band,
3087
02:48:10,728 --> 02:48:12,763
they brought in Brent Mydland,
3088
02:48:12,796 --> 02:48:15,499
who was a fabulous
keyboard player
3089
02:48:15,533 --> 02:48:17,668
and a wonderful singer,
actually.
3090
02:48:17,701 --> 02:48:20,271
He really revitalized the
backup singing for the band
3091
02:48:20,304 --> 02:48:23,607
and gave it some muscle,
made the sound bigger.
3092
02:48:23,641 --> 02:48:25,809
♪ Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah ♪
3093
02:48:25,843 --> 02:48:27,211
♪ All you need
3094
02:48:27,245 --> 02:48:28,512
You know, and it seemed like,
3095
02:48:28,546 --> 02:48:30,814
for a while,
that they were feeling it.
3096
02:48:30,848 --> 02:48:32,816
♪ Is good lovin'
3097
02:48:32,850 --> 02:48:34,618
♪ Well, you got to have lovin' ♪
3098
02:48:34,652 --> 02:48:35,886
♪ Good lovin'
3099
02:48:35,919 --> 02:48:36,963
♪ And you gotta have lovin'
3100
02:48:36,987 --> 02:48:38,556
♪ Good lovin'
3101
02:48:38,589 --> 02:48:39,923
♪ Oh, a little good lovin'
3102
02:48:39,957 --> 02:48:40,958
♪ Good lovin'
3103
02:48:40,991 --> 02:48:42,460
Get it on!
3104
02:48:42,493 --> 02:48:43,594
♪ Good lovin'
3105
02:48:45,796 --> 02:48:48,332
♪ Gimme, gimme, gimme,
gimme some lovin' ♪
3106
02:48:48,366 --> 02:48:50,734
♪ Ah, you gotta have lovin'
3107
02:48:50,768 --> 02:48:52,336
♪ Good lovin'
3108
02:48:52,370 --> 02:48:54,004
♪ Gimme, gimme,
gimme some lovin' ♪
3109
02:48:54,037 --> 02:48:55,406
- ♪ Good lovin'
- ♪ Ah
3110
02:48:55,439 --> 02:48:56,607
Silberman:
There was something
3111
02:48:56,640 --> 02:48:58,242
that was uncanny
3112
02:48:58,276 --> 02:49:00,944
about the wave form
of a Grateful Dead show.
3113
02:49:00,978 --> 02:49:02,880
- ♪ Got to have lovin'
- ♪ Good lovin'
3114
02:49:02,913 --> 02:49:04,648
You know, there were two sets.
3115
02:49:04,682 --> 02:49:07,918
The first set was usually
more contained musically.
3116
02:49:09,320 --> 02:49:10,688
There would be more kind of
3117
02:49:10,721 --> 02:49:13,491
chorus, verse, you know,
structure of the songs.
3118
02:49:16,294 --> 02:49:17,861
But then, in the second set,
3119
02:49:17,895 --> 02:49:20,898
almost anything could happen.
3120
02:49:23,767 --> 02:49:26,637
There would be a period
in the second set
3121
02:49:26,670 --> 02:49:28,806
where you would be
actually brought back
3122
02:49:28,839 --> 02:49:33,577
to the very elemental
essence of music
3123
02:49:33,611 --> 02:49:35,479
by the drums and space sections.
3124
02:49:44,555 --> 02:49:46,690
Percussive rhythms
from the jungle...
3125
02:49:48,492 --> 02:49:50,961
or from the desert
in the Middle East.
3126
02:49:56,099 --> 02:49:58,336
Hart: The idea is
to take the audience
3127
02:49:58,369 --> 02:50:00,504
on a trip, you know,
on a journey.
3128
02:50:07,678 --> 02:50:10,414
If you asked me
what business I was in,
3129
02:50:10,448 --> 02:50:12,450
I would say transportation.
3130
02:50:14,752 --> 02:50:16,920
We're in the transportation
business.
3131
02:50:34,104 --> 02:50:37,007
Silberman: I think that what
made Grateful Dead music
3132
02:50:37,040 --> 02:50:39,610
so appealing for people
who were tripping
3133
02:50:39,643 --> 02:50:43,647
was that it was a way
of having experiences
3134
02:50:43,681 --> 02:50:46,684
that were almost
a primordial initiation.
3135
02:50:55,092 --> 02:50:57,461
Like in cultures where
3136
02:50:57,495 --> 02:51:00,130
young men would be taken
away from their parents,
3137
02:51:00,163 --> 02:51:01,699
often by a Shaman.
3138
02:51:03,601 --> 02:51:05,002
You know, they would
have to spend,
3139
02:51:05,035 --> 02:51:08,572
like, three days in
the wilderness, fasting,
3140
02:51:08,606 --> 02:51:12,410
learning that the world
was serious
3141
02:51:12,443 --> 02:51:14,378
instead of superficial.
3142
02:51:16,113 --> 02:51:19,417
Learning that things like
life and death were real.
3143
02:51:21,519 --> 02:51:22,720
Becoming an adult.
3144
02:51:33,697 --> 02:51:35,633
It's not to say that, you know,
3145
02:51:35,666 --> 02:51:38,902
people couldn't enjoy Dead
shows while they were sober,
3146
02:51:38,936 --> 02:51:40,871
but for people who, you know,
3147
02:51:40,904 --> 02:51:43,040
were taking
psychedelics like me,
3148
02:51:43,073 --> 02:51:46,410
which I did hundreds
of times at Dead shows,
3149
02:51:46,444 --> 02:51:49,513
it was an absolutely
exquisite opportunity
3150
02:51:49,547 --> 02:51:51,615
to explore this rich
3151
02:51:51,649 --> 02:51:52,883
musical tradition
3152
02:51:52,916 --> 02:51:54,618
that they were
sort of serving up,
3153
02:51:54,652 --> 02:51:56,119
you know, nightly,
3154
02:51:56,153 --> 02:51:59,389
in this incredibly
well architected form.
3155
02:52:08,966 --> 02:52:12,002
And then you'd be returned
to the, kind of, human world
3156
02:52:12,035 --> 02:52:15,439
through the ballads
that Jerry would sing.
3157
02:52:16,974 --> 02:52:19,477
Like, Jerry would often
come out of space
3158
02:52:19,510 --> 02:52:20,744
with "Stella Blue."
3159
02:52:22,713 --> 02:52:25,883
It was as if he had
found a place to stand
3160
02:52:25,916 --> 02:52:29,119
in the middle of the universe
3161
02:52:29,152 --> 02:52:32,656
where he could look at
everything outside of him
3162
02:52:32,690 --> 02:52:36,026
and utter something
meaningful about it.
3163
02:52:38,529 --> 02:52:42,032
♪ All the years combine
3164
02:52:47,505 --> 02:52:51,909
♪ They melt into a dream
3165
02:52:56,780 --> 02:53:01,018
♪ A broken angel sings
3166
02:53:01,051 --> 02:53:06,490
You know, a very common
experience about psychedelics
3167
02:53:06,524 --> 02:53:08,191
is that you feel
like you're on the verge
3168
02:53:08,225 --> 02:53:11,028
of sort of cracking
the cosmic koan
3169
02:53:11,061 --> 02:53:13,531
or getting the cosmic
joke or something.
3170
02:53:14,765 --> 02:53:16,600
And then it would slip away.
3171
02:53:16,634 --> 02:53:21,104
♪ It all rolls into one
3172
02:53:21,138 --> 02:53:24,842
And, I think the lyrics
kind of flirted with that...
3173
02:53:24,875 --> 02:53:26,610
♪ And nothing...
3174
02:53:26,644 --> 02:53:29,947
where they would, you know,
almost hand you something
3175
02:53:29,980 --> 02:53:32,550
that sounded like
the big answer,
3176
02:53:32,583 --> 02:53:35,819
but then it was, you know,
ever so slightly slippery.
3177
02:53:35,853 --> 02:53:42,092
♪ There's nothing you can hold ♪
3178
02:53:42,125 --> 02:53:44,928
♪ For very long
3179
02:53:46,296 --> 02:53:47,898
Paumgarten:
The lyrics for me...
3180
02:53:47,931 --> 02:53:49,900
The good ones...
3181
02:53:49,933 --> 02:53:53,003
They do hang around like
scraps of important poetry.
3182
02:53:53,036 --> 02:53:56,139
♪ Stella Blue
3183
02:53:56,173 --> 02:53:58,676
There's something
ingenious about Hunter
3184
02:53:58,709 --> 02:54:00,944
where the lyrics
all have these level
3185
02:54:00,978 --> 02:54:04,014
of involving the listener in
whatever story's being told.
3186
02:54:04,047 --> 02:54:07,751
♪ Stella Blue
3187
02:54:09,086 --> 02:54:12,656
Robert Hunter was
a very subtle lyricist.
3188
02:54:14,124 --> 02:54:16,326
Trist: He was part
of the Grateful Dead
3189
02:54:16,359 --> 02:54:18,929
because he was creating
the words they sang.
3190
02:54:21,865 --> 02:54:25,669
Always referring
back to those roots
3191
02:54:25,703 --> 02:54:29,973
that we shared
in the early sixties.
3192
02:54:30,007 --> 02:54:33,677
McNally: Hunter was Jerry's
partner on every level.
3193
02:54:33,711 --> 02:54:36,980
They were close enough.
They went back far enough
3194
02:54:37,014 --> 02:54:40,250
that Hunter could be
the source of words
3195
02:54:40,283 --> 02:54:43,220
and Jerry could be
comfortable singing them.
3196
02:54:43,253 --> 02:54:45,255
Garcia: I can't get
on stage and sing a song
3197
02:54:45,288 --> 02:54:48,191
that doesn't have some
emotional reality for me.
3198
02:54:48,225 --> 02:54:52,329
Hunter is very good about
writing into my beliefs.
3199
02:54:52,362 --> 02:54:53,664
You know?
3200
02:54:53,697 --> 02:54:56,834
He... He understands
the way I think.
3201
02:54:56,867 --> 02:54:59,236
Silberman:
His lyrics seem to come
3202
02:54:59,269 --> 02:55:01,605
out of a much older world
3203
02:55:01,639 --> 02:55:04,207
than they literally came out of.
3204
02:55:04,241 --> 02:55:07,210
♪ In the timbers to Fennario
3205
02:55:07,244 --> 02:55:10,047
♪ The wolves are running round ♪
3206
02:55:10,080 --> 02:55:12,315
It was like those songs came
3207
02:55:12,349 --> 02:55:18,756
from some kind of subterranean
old, weird America.
3208
02:55:18,789 --> 02:55:21,892
♪ I beg of you,
don't murder me ♪
3209
02:55:21,925 --> 02:55:25,028
One that had important
information in it.
3210
02:55:25,062 --> 02:55:26,964
♪ Please don't murder me
3211
02:55:26,997 --> 02:55:28,298
That you would kind of have to
3212
02:55:28,331 --> 02:55:30,300
live your way
up to understanding.
3213
02:55:30,333 --> 02:55:33,704
Weir: Hunter's
got his own window
3214
02:55:33,737 --> 02:55:38,041
into what those songs are about,
3215
02:55:38,075 --> 02:55:39,376
what they mean to him.
3216
02:55:40,678 --> 02:55:43,947
He's notoriously reclusive,
3217
02:55:43,981 --> 02:55:46,850
uh, so I doubt
that he would be willing
3218
02:55:46,884 --> 02:55:48,852
to sit for an interview,
but he might.
3219
02:55:48,886 --> 02:55:52,723
I could call him and...
Or text him or something.
3220
02:55:52,756 --> 02:55:55,893
If you can get him to talk,
it'd be interesting to see.
3221
02:55:59,930 --> 02:56:02,099
I think a lot of times,
people want to know
3222
02:56:02,132 --> 02:56:06,203
what he meant
by this or that line.
3223
02:56:06,236 --> 02:56:08,405
No artist wants to sit there
3224
02:56:08,438 --> 02:56:11,675
and explain
why he did what he did.
3225
02:56:11,709 --> 02:56:15,345
It's sort of counter
3226
02:56:15,378 --> 02:56:19,249
to the whole point of
doing something artistic.
3227
02:56:19,282 --> 02:56:20,851
Well, it is fun
3228
02:56:20,884 --> 02:56:23,887
to learn how songs
are written, right?
3229
02:56:23,921 --> 02:56:24,921
I guess.
3230
02:56:26,289 --> 02:56:28,325
Generally speaking,
when I listen to a song,
3231
02:56:28,358 --> 02:56:29,760
you know, I don't ponder.
3232
02:56:29,793 --> 02:56:31,361
"What was he trying
to get at here?"
3233
02:56:31,394 --> 02:56:34,264
I always do that.
3234
02:56:34,297 --> 02:56:35,966
I always try to figure out
3235
02:56:35,999 --> 02:56:39,169
what the words mean...
What do they mean?
3236
02:56:39,202 --> 02:56:40,771
What's...
3237
02:56:40,804 --> 02:56:43,340
But it takes all kinds right?
3238
02:56:43,373 --> 02:56:44,842
Mm-hmm.
3239
02:56:44,875 --> 02:56:46,710
But he knows
we're coming, right?
3240
02:56:46,744 --> 02:56:47,978
Bar Lev:
No, he does not.
3241
02:56:48,011 --> 02:56:49,880
Ah, okay.
3242
02:56:49,913 --> 02:56:54,184
You know, Robert Hunter
was a very elusive person.
3243
02:56:55,853 --> 02:57:00,023
He did not like photographs
circulating of him.
3244
02:57:00,057 --> 02:57:02,826
He wouldn't even appear
in public for many years
3245
02:57:02,860 --> 02:57:06,496
because he wanted
to retain his anonymity.
3246
02:57:06,529 --> 02:57:08,866
Hunter would just
kind of appear,
3247
02:57:08,899 --> 02:57:12,736
or he would disappear
whenever he wanted to.
3248
02:57:12,770 --> 02:57:15,739
That's who the guy is.
3249
02:57:15,773 --> 02:57:18,175
And that's why
his lyrics suggest...
3250
02:57:19,476 --> 02:57:22,412
"I'm anywhere you want me to be.
3251
02:57:22,445 --> 02:57:24,214
You can't catch me."
3252
02:57:27,484 --> 02:57:31,521
This is a man who will
pull out a gun and shoot you
3253
02:57:31,554 --> 02:57:33,824
if you start, you know,
analyzing his lyrics.
3254
02:57:33,857 --> 02:57:36,193
He will not answer
questions like that.
3255
02:57:36,226 --> 02:57:38,128
No, you can't exp... Nobody w...
3256
02:57:38,161 --> 02:57:40,363
Well, I can't
explain his songs, no.
3257
02:57:40,397 --> 02:57:42,265
McNally: He won't do it,
nor should he.
3258
02:57:42,299 --> 02:57:45,502
If he did,
the illusion would be gone,
3259
02:57:45,535 --> 02:57:48,171
and that ain't no fun, you know?
3260
02:57:51,141 --> 02:57:55,879
Silberman: His lyrics
were not easily cast
3261
02:57:55,913 --> 02:57:58,215
into some narrow
range of meaning.
3262
02:58:00,483 --> 02:58:02,119
You know, it's like,
3263
02:58:02,152 --> 02:58:03,821
I love the lyric to "Dark Star,"
3264
02:58:03,854 --> 02:58:05,422
even though it's
one of the most...
3265
02:58:05,455 --> 02:58:10,060
You know, you can't
explain what it means.
3266
02:58:10,093 --> 02:58:11,962
Well, let's see.
3267
02:58:11,995 --> 02:58:13,964
Dark star crashes,
3268
02:58:13,997 --> 02:58:15,298
pouring its light
into the ashes.
3269
02:58:15,332 --> 02:58:17,067
Reason tatters.
3270
02:58:17,100 --> 02:58:20,003
The forces tear loose
from the axis.
3271
02:58:20,037 --> 02:58:23,040
Uh, searchlight
casting for faults
3272
02:58:23,073 --> 02:58:24,875
in the clouds of delusion.
3273
02:58:24,908 --> 02:58:26,343
Shall we go, you and I,
3274
02:58:26,376 --> 02:58:28,078
while we can,
3275
02:58:28,111 --> 02:58:30,580
through the transitive
nightfall of diamonds?
3276
02:58:30,613 --> 02:58:32,249
What is unclear about that?
3277
02:58:32,282 --> 02:58:35,085
I mean, it says what it means.
3278
02:58:36,319 --> 02:58:41,491
♪ Dark star crashes
3279
02:58:42,625 --> 02:58:45,863
♪ Pouring its light
3280
02:58:45,896 --> 02:58:49,566
♪ Through ashes
3281
02:58:49,599 --> 02:58:51,168
♪ Reason...
3282
02:58:51,201 --> 02:58:55,038
Godchaux: The lyrics
are worded in such a way
3283
02:58:55,072 --> 02:58:59,009
that anybody who hears
a Grateful Dead song
3284
02:58:59,042 --> 02:59:01,178
can interpret it
3285
02:59:01,211 --> 02:59:04,314
so that it becomes meaningful
3286
02:59:04,347 --> 02:59:06,516
to their own life.
3287
02:59:06,549 --> 02:59:08,418
It is so personal
3288
02:59:08,451 --> 02:59:12,089
to each and every person
who listens to it,
3289
02:59:12,122 --> 02:59:15,325
it belongs to you, honey.
3290
02:59:15,358 --> 02:59:16,359
It's yours.
3291
02:59:16,393 --> 02:59:20,197
♪ Shall we go
3292
02:59:20,230 --> 02:59:26,003
♪ You and I, while we can?
3293
02:59:26,036 --> 02:59:28,371
And that's the key,
3294
02:59:28,405 --> 02:59:30,540
and that's the genius
3295
02:59:30,573 --> 02:59:34,177
of the Hunter/Garcia
collaboration.
3296
02:59:34,211 --> 02:59:42,119
♪ The transitive
nightfall of diamonds ♪
3297
02:59:44,087 --> 02:59:45,488
Silberman:
Both Robert Hunter's
3298
02:59:45,522 --> 02:59:48,291
and John Barlow's
best lyrics did that.
3299
02:59:50,093 --> 02:59:54,397
Those songs would become,
like, good, wise advisors
3300
02:59:54,431 --> 02:59:58,001
that you could take with you
through decades of life.
3301
02:59:59,669 --> 03:00:01,604
Come right here,
and it's all about this:
3302
03:00:01,638 --> 03:00:04,141
"See ya at the next show."
3303
03:00:04,174 --> 03:00:05,575
When this one's over,
3304
03:00:05,608 --> 03:00:07,253
we're not going anywhere
but to the next show.
3305
03:00:07,277 --> 03:00:08,988
Man: And how long are you
gonna keep doing this?
3306
03:00:09,012 --> 03:00:11,048
Like the band does
another 20 years,
3307
03:00:11,081 --> 03:00:12,315
I'll do another 20 years.
3308
03:00:13,616 --> 03:00:15,252
Silberman:
It was really profound
3309
03:00:15,285 --> 03:00:17,220
to keep coming back
over the years
3310
03:00:17,254 --> 03:00:19,032
because you would see people,
you know, get older.
3311
03:00:19,056 --> 03:00:21,624
Eventually they'd be
coming with their spouse
3312
03:00:21,658 --> 03:00:23,293
and maybe their kids.
3313
03:00:23,326 --> 03:00:25,662
Eventually they'd be
getting gray hair.
3314
03:00:25,695 --> 03:00:28,999
It's like we would all
be growing old together
3315
03:00:29,032 --> 03:00:32,135
in this place that kept
recreating itself
3316
03:00:32,169 --> 03:00:35,238
in a way that was both
reassuringly familiar
3317
03:00:35,272 --> 03:00:39,376
and excitingly new every time.
3318
03:00:39,409 --> 03:00:41,611
I think, for a lot of people,
3319
03:00:41,644 --> 03:00:45,448
Grateful Dead shows were
experiences of renewal
3320
03:00:45,482 --> 03:00:47,650
in the same way that it would be
3321
03:00:47,684 --> 03:00:49,386
within a...
3322
03:00:49,419 --> 03:00:52,355
An established, uh, religion.
3323
03:00:52,389 --> 03:00:56,026
♪ I wanna tell you
how it's gonna be ♪
3324
03:00:58,461 --> 03:01:01,264
♪ You're gonna give
your love to me ♪
3325
03:01:03,566 --> 03:01:07,104
♪ I want to love you
night and day ♪
3326
03:01:09,706 --> 03:01:12,542
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3327
03:01:15,245 --> 03:01:18,448
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3328
03:01:18,481 --> 03:01:20,717
♪ Not fade away
3329
03:01:26,256 --> 03:01:30,427
Lesh: It is more like
a ritual than a concert.
3330
03:01:32,395 --> 03:01:34,497
Everybody's ecstatic together.
3331
03:01:37,467 --> 03:01:39,436
I always said,
3332
03:01:39,469 --> 03:01:41,538
every place we play is church.
3333
03:01:43,506 --> 03:01:45,208
That says it in a nutshell.
3334
03:01:53,516 --> 03:01:55,618
Barlow: You know,
there really was
3335
03:01:55,652 --> 03:01:57,287
a holy thing
that happened there.
3336
03:01:57,320 --> 03:01:58,488
There's no question.
3337
03:02:01,124 --> 03:02:03,093
But it wasn't
coming from Garcia.
3338
03:02:03,126 --> 03:02:05,028
It wasn't coming
from the stage, actually.
3339
03:02:05,062 --> 03:02:07,497
It wasn't coming from
any particular place.
3340
03:02:07,530 --> 03:02:09,232
It never does.
3341
03:02:12,202 --> 03:02:15,638
We realized that we had
to be really very careful...
3342
03:02:17,274 --> 03:02:19,509
because if the Grateful Dead
3343
03:02:19,542 --> 03:02:22,179
was going to form a religion
3344
03:02:22,212 --> 03:02:24,747
beyond just having
a religious-like thing
3345
03:02:24,781 --> 03:02:26,416
that was following it around...
3346
03:02:27,550 --> 03:02:29,352
it would constrain our ability
3347
03:02:29,386 --> 03:02:31,154
to get into the future properly.
3348
03:02:32,755 --> 03:02:35,658
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3349
03:02:38,395 --> 03:02:41,264
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3350
03:02:41,298 --> 03:02:43,566
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3351
03:02:43,600 --> 03:02:46,569
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3352
03:02:46,603 --> 03:02:49,439
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3353
03:02:49,472 --> 03:02:52,409
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3354
03:02:52,442 --> 03:02:55,145
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3355
03:02:55,178 --> 03:02:57,814
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3356
03:02:57,847 --> 03:03:00,583
♪ Mmm-bop, bop, bop-bop
3357
03:03:00,617 --> 03:03:03,653
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3358
03:03:03,686 --> 03:03:06,556
♪ Mmm-bop, bop, bop-bop
3359
03:03:06,589 --> 03:03:09,659
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3360
03:03:09,692 --> 03:03:12,295
♪ Mmm-bop, bop, bop-bop
3361
03:03:12,329 --> 03:03:15,565
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3362
03:03:17,834 --> 03:03:21,204
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3363
03:03:23,573 --> 03:03:26,443
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3364
03:03:28,745 --> 03:03:31,581
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3365
03:03:33,883 --> 03:03:36,753
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3366
03:03:39,222 --> 03:03:42,292
♪ You know our love
will not fade away ♪
3367
03:03:44,990 --> 03:03:49,095
See, for the first
18 years or so,
3368
03:03:49,128 --> 03:03:51,064
I had a lot of doubts
about the Grateful Dead.
3369
03:03:51,097 --> 03:03:53,666
I thought maybe this is really
a bad thing to be doing,
3370
03:03:53,699 --> 03:03:56,202
you know, this could be,
like, really pernicious.
3371
03:03:56,235 --> 03:03:58,171
Reporter: Because you
were aware of it.
3372
03:03:58,204 --> 03:04:00,139
Because I was
aware of the power.
3373
03:04:03,609 --> 03:04:07,146
If I had started to think
about controlling that power,
3374
03:04:07,180 --> 03:04:10,149
it would be like,
perilously close to fascism.
3375
03:04:12,551 --> 03:04:17,323
And, so I did a lot
of things to sabotage it.
3376
03:04:19,092 --> 03:04:21,127
It's like, "Fuck that, you know?
3377
03:04:21,160 --> 03:04:23,096
"I'm not going to go
along with this.
3378
03:04:23,129 --> 03:04:24,497
I don't want
to be a part of this."
3379
03:04:27,400 --> 03:04:28,767
I mean, it's the thing of it.
3380
03:04:28,801 --> 03:04:31,104
You don't want
to be the king, you know?
3381
03:04:31,137 --> 03:04:33,339
You don't want
to be the president.
3382
03:04:35,408 --> 03:04:36,675
You don't fuckin' want that.
3383
03:04:36,709 --> 03:04:38,589
I mean, nobody wants...
Nobody should have that.
3384
03:04:41,314 --> 03:04:46,085
♪ Fare you well, my honey, oh ♪
3385
03:04:50,156 --> 03:04:52,725
♪ Fare you well
3386
03:04:52,758 --> 03:04:56,829
♪ My only true one
3387
03:04:58,864 --> 03:05:03,336
♪ All the birds
that were singing ♪
3388
03:05:05,904 --> 03:05:09,608
♪ Have flown
3389
03:05:09,642 --> 03:05:14,447
♪ Except you alone
3390
03:05:16,815 --> 03:05:18,717
Steve Silberman: Jerry
once said something like
3391
03:05:18,751 --> 03:05:22,221
"I live in a world
without a Grateful Dead"
3392
03:05:22,255 --> 03:05:25,824
because, he didn't have some
group that was, you know,
3393
03:05:25,858 --> 03:05:27,393
that he could go see
3394
03:05:27,426 --> 03:05:29,495
that would lift
the burdens of his life.
3395
03:05:29,528 --> 03:05:31,297
You know, he was the guy
3396
03:05:31,330 --> 03:05:32,874
who was lifting
everybody else's burdens
3397
03:05:32,898 --> 03:05:34,567
without even trying.
3398
03:05:36,302 --> 03:05:38,771
And he couldn't do it
for himself, clearly,
3399
03:05:38,804 --> 03:05:41,507
because meanwhile,
he's going back to his house
3400
03:05:41,540 --> 03:05:44,577
and smoking heroin all day.
3401
03:05:46,345 --> 03:05:47,789
Nick Paumgarten: By the time
I came on the scene
3402
03:05:47,813 --> 03:05:49,515
in the mid-eighties,
3403
03:05:49,548 --> 03:05:51,884
Garcia was probably at his
unhealthiest, you know,
3404
03:05:51,917 --> 03:05:53,919
up until, basically,
when he died.
3405
03:05:53,952 --> 03:05:55,821
♪ In my time
3406
03:05:55,854 --> 03:05:57,556
I feel like the extent to which
3407
03:05:57,590 --> 03:06:00,193
he allowed himself
to fall to pieces,
3408
03:06:00,226 --> 03:06:03,396
there was some element
of the canny artist in that.
3409
03:06:05,231 --> 03:06:07,466
I mean, this is me projecting
onto him entirely.
3410
03:06:07,500 --> 03:06:09,168
Maybe it's giving him
too much credit,
3411
03:06:09,202 --> 03:06:12,405
but it suited the music
that he was performing
3412
03:06:12,438 --> 03:06:14,207
when he was shrouded in death
3413
03:06:14,240 --> 03:06:16,909
because a lot of Garcia's
music is about death.
3414
03:06:18,777 --> 03:06:20,613
That's an appeal of the man
3415
03:06:20,646 --> 03:06:21,756
that you have to
discover over time.
3416
03:06:21,780 --> 03:06:23,216
You don't see it immediately
3417
03:06:23,249 --> 03:06:25,418
because of the way
he presents historically
3418
03:06:25,451 --> 03:06:28,321
as this sort of big,
happy, hippie icon.
3419
03:06:29,488 --> 03:06:30,756
You get to know,
3420
03:06:30,789 --> 03:06:32,258
if you listen to the music,
3421
03:06:32,291 --> 03:06:33,692
that actually he's a deliverer
3422
03:06:33,726 --> 03:06:35,661
of dark news, you know?
3423
03:06:35,694 --> 03:06:38,864
That's where you really
begin to take him seriously.
3424
03:06:40,299 --> 03:06:44,303
♪ Fare you well, fare you well ♪
3425
03:06:44,337 --> 03:06:49,242
♪ I love you more
than words can tell ♪
3426
03:06:49,275 --> 03:06:52,878
♪ Listen to the river
sing sweet songs ♪
3427
03:06:52,911 --> 03:06:55,881
♪ To rock my soul
3428
03:06:57,616 --> 03:07:01,587
♪ Listen to the river
sing sweet songs ♪
3429
03:07:01,620 --> 03:07:05,558
♪ To rock my soul
3430
03:07:06,692 --> 03:07:08,561
This is where I'm working
3431
03:07:08,594 --> 03:07:12,931
on archiving a bunch
of Jerry's stuff.
3432
03:07:17,270 --> 03:07:21,974
This is my endless project.
3433
03:07:23,609 --> 03:07:26,011
You know, I was always
expecting when I...
3434
03:07:26,044 --> 03:07:28,547
When I would listen
to the Grateful Dead music,
3435
03:07:28,581 --> 03:07:30,916
there was gonna be some, like,
overt message, you know?
3436
03:07:30,949 --> 03:07:33,986
Something there,
like, oh, that's it.
3437
03:07:34,019 --> 03:07:36,522
But I can't tell exactly
3438
03:07:36,555 --> 03:07:39,525
where the magic is
in... in these things.
3439
03:07:39,558 --> 03:07:41,460
You know, but there's definitely
3440
03:07:41,494 --> 03:07:43,596
something special going on.
3441
03:07:46,332 --> 03:07:51,304
This is a great reel
from a press release.
3442
03:07:54,707 --> 03:07:57,976
Back here I have a couple of,
um, like, family shots.
3443
03:08:00,045 --> 03:08:01,647
There's Jerry.
3444
03:08:01,680 --> 03:08:03,549
This is... This is
the daughter picture.
3445
03:08:03,582 --> 03:08:05,318
He's holding his wallet.
3446
03:08:05,351 --> 03:08:07,520
I'm probably
hitting him up for money.
3447
03:08:07,553 --> 03:08:09,722
Um, this is in Hawaii.
3448
03:08:09,755 --> 03:08:12,891
He looks pretty frickin'
happy, to me.
3449
03:08:14,427 --> 03:08:16,995
This is actually
at Ken Kesey's house.
3450
03:08:17,029 --> 03:08:19,865
Me and Jerry in '86.
3451
03:08:21,467 --> 03:08:23,936
My mom, Mountain Girl,
took this picture.
3452
03:08:23,969 --> 03:08:26,605
Growing up in the Grateful Dead,
3453
03:08:26,639 --> 03:08:29,442
I never got
to experience the show
3454
03:08:29,475 --> 03:08:30,909
as a fan did, you know?
3455
03:08:32,878 --> 03:08:34,547
So, it didn't make sense to me
3456
03:08:34,580 --> 03:08:37,450
why all these people
have this, um,
3457
03:08:37,483 --> 03:08:39,485
deep, deep connection to my dad
3458
03:08:39,518 --> 03:08:42,755
that I sometimes felt
like I had to compete with.
3459
03:08:44,089 --> 03:08:45,924
You know, they toured a lot,
3460
03:08:45,958 --> 03:08:49,094
and it was really hard
for him, you know,
3461
03:08:49,127 --> 03:08:51,530
spending that much
time on the road.
3462
03:08:53,799 --> 03:08:55,734
And we gave him, you know,
3463
03:08:55,768 --> 03:08:57,703
he got his space
when he came home.
3464
03:09:01,574 --> 03:09:03,108
I would just sit, you know,
3465
03:09:03,141 --> 03:09:06,645
and hang out next to him
while he played his scales.
3466
03:09:10,383 --> 03:09:13,819
And we'd watch
TV shows together.
3467
03:09:13,852 --> 03:09:15,454
And weird movies, you know.
3468
03:09:15,488 --> 03:09:16,889
Twilight Zone stuff.
3469
03:09:16,922 --> 03:09:19,392
Shall we put the heart in now?
3470
03:09:19,425 --> 03:09:20,626
Yes.
3471
03:09:20,659 --> 03:09:21,794
Ludwig.
3472
03:09:21,827 --> 03:09:23,629
Here's some old, uh,
3473
03:09:23,662 --> 03:09:26,632
sketches of little
Frankensteins.
3474
03:09:26,665 --> 03:09:30,569
Frankenstein was a recurring
character for him.
3475
03:09:30,603 --> 03:09:34,039
Um, you know, Jerry
loved horror movies
3476
03:09:34,072 --> 03:09:36,542
and stuff like that, so...
3477
03:09:36,575 --> 03:09:38,043
The Frankenstein,
3478
03:09:38,076 --> 03:09:40,979
the harmless little
companion that you create
3479
03:09:41,013 --> 03:09:46,385
that ends up dominating
your whole world.
3480
03:09:48,887 --> 03:09:50,656
Work.
3481
03:09:50,689 --> 03:09:51,924
He was exhausted.
3482
03:09:51,957 --> 03:09:54,427
I'm exhausted.
I must get sleep.
3483
03:09:54,460 --> 03:09:58,764
Work, finish, then sleep.
3484
03:09:58,797 --> 03:10:00,799
The Grateful Dead thing
had gotten so big
3485
03:10:00,833 --> 03:10:02,635
where you're kind of, you know,
3486
03:10:02,668 --> 03:10:05,137
working just to keep it
going at a certain point.
3487
03:10:05,170 --> 03:10:07,039
Not that, you know,
3488
03:10:07,072 --> 03:10:09,708
not saying it should have
ended or anything, but...
3489
03:10:11,744 --> 03:10:13,479
I wish that, uh,
3490
03:10:13,512 --> 03:10:17,049
he would've just got
some fucking rest, you know?
3491
03:10:19,752 --> 03:10:21,754
Dennis McNally: Summer of '86,
3492
03:10:21,787 --> 03:10:26,992
we played two concerts
in Washington, D.C.
3493
03:10:27,025 --> 03:10:29,595
It was over a hundred degrees,
3494
03:10:29,628 --> 03:10:34,600
and Jerry was out there
for three hours a day,
3495
03:10:34,633 --> 03:10:36,034
and he got dehydrated.
3496
03:10:37,703 --> 03:10:39,905
And about three days later,
3497
03:10:39,938 --> 03:10:42,074
he went into a diabetic coma.
3498
03:10:44,577 --> 03:10:47,713
Garcia: I just laid down
one day and didn't get up.
3499
03:10:49,147 --> 03:10:51,484
During the time
I was actually in a coma,
3500
03:10:51,517 --> 03:10:55,087
my main experience is
a kind of tremendous struggle
3501
03:10:55,120 --> 03:10:58,624
in a kind of a futuristic,
3502
03:10:58,657 --> 03:11:01,494
sort of spaceship-y
kind of vehicle
3503
03:11:01,527 --> 03:11:04,963
with some kind
of insectoid presences.
3504
03:11:04,997 --> 03:11:07,833
Prankster: The acid test is
everywhere in this spaceship,
3505
03:11:07,866 --> 03:11:09,868
everywhere you are,
you're all on...
3506
03:11:11,937 --> 03:11:15,173
Garcia: Kind of like invisible
time travelers from the future
3507
03:11:15,207 --> 03:11:17,643
looking at me, you know.
3508
03:11:20,979 --> 03:11:23,148
I had this image of myself...
3509
03:11:23,181 --> 03:11:25,618
I love death.
3510
03:11:25,651 --> 03:11:27,886
...as these little
hunks of protoplasm
3511
03:11:27,920 --> 03:11:30,088
that were stuck together
kind of like stamps
3512
03:11:30,122 --> 03:11:31,657
with perforations between 'em.
3513
03:11:32,925 --> 03:11:34,527
And they were a gift.
3514
03:11:41,934 --> 03:11:44,069
They were these kind
of, like, message units
3515
03:11:44,102 --> 03:11:45,704
or message carriers,
3516
03:11:45,738 --> 03:11:46,881
and I thought they were, like,
3517
03:11:46,905 --> 03:11:48,240
kind of like my bloodstream.
3518
03:11:48,273 --> 03:11:51,644
And that was my image
of my physical self.
3519
03:11:57,583 --> 03:11:59,251
I came out of my coma...
3520
03:12:01,153 --> 03:12:03,956
feeling fragile...
3521
03:12:05,257 --> 03:12:07,025
but I'm not afraid of death.
3522
03:12:10,228 --> 03:12:12,598
It made it easier for me
to focus on the things
3523
03:12:12,631 --> 03:12:14,232
that I really wanted
to accomplish.
3524
03:12:14,266 --> 03:12:16,301
It had that kind of
attention-getting, you know,
3525
03:12:16,334 --> 03:12:18,303
the thing of you could
go at any moment.
3526
03:12:18,336 --> 03:12:19,938
You never know, you know,
3527
03:12:19,972 --> 03:12:21,707
so you might as well
just try to crowd
3528
03:12:21,740 --> 03:12:24,276
as much as you can possibility
get into your life.
3529
03:12:24,309 --> 03:12:26,278
This week,
the Grateful Dead released
3530
03:12:26,311 --> 03:12:28,013
their first studio
album in seven years,
3531
03:12:28,046 --> 03:12:29,648
In The Dark, over which
3532
03:12:29,682 --> 03:12:31,984
their so-called Deadhead
fans are delirious.
3533
03:12:33,619 --> 03:12:36,154
They always love it
when I don't die.
3534
03:12:37,756 --> 03:12:40,158
I always get a lot
of mileage out of that.
3535
03:12:40,192 --> 03:12:42,828
Reporter: The Grateful Dead
are very much alive and well.
3536
03:12:42,861 --> 03:12:44,630
Their last album, Into The Dark,
3537
03:12:44,663 --> 03:12:45,831
was their best selling ever.
3538
03:12:45,864 --> 03:12:47,866
Their single, "Touch of Grey,"
3539
03:12:47,900 --> 03:12:50,202
became their first top-40 hit.
3540
03:12:50,235 --> 03:12:52,938
♪ I will get by
3541
03:12:52,971 --> 03:12:56,341
The Dead racked up over
$26 million in ticket sales.
3542
03:12:56,374 --> 03:12:58,076
Woman: ...one of
the highest earners
3543
03:12:58,110 --> 03:12:59,678
in the entertainment
business last year.
3544
03:12:59,712 --> 03:13:01,279
The band's music makes millions.
3545
03:13:01,313 --> 03:13:04,049
There's an ice cream
named after their leader.
3546
03:13:04,082 --> 03:13:05,851
The Dead is even
on the internet.
3547
03:13:05,884 --> 03:13:08,153
♪ I will survive
3548
03:13:09,387 --> 03:13:11,023
McNally: In 1987,
3549
03:13:11,056 --> 03:13:12,691
we finally have a radio hit.
3550
03:13:12,725 --> 03:13:16,161
With "Touch of Grey"
in the top ten,
3551
03:13:16,194 --> 03:13:20,332
tens of thousands of people
just heard it on the radio,
3552
03:13:20,365 --> 03:13:22,267
and they went, "Oh,
I want to go to that show,"
3553
03:13:22,300 --> 03:13:23,836
and, of course,
they can't get in
3554
03:13:23,869 --> 03:13:25,904
'cause it's already sold out.
3555
03:13:25,938 --> 03:13:27,640
So they go down anyway,
3556
03:13:27,673 --> 03:13:29,875
and they find a party
the likes of which
3557
03:13:29,908 --> 03:13:33,646
no 19-year-old
ever walks away from.
3558
03:13:33,679 --> 03:13:36,615
And we go from having
a thousand people
3559
03:13:36,649 --> 03:13:38,183
on the outside of our show,
3560
03:13:38,216 --> 03:13:41,253
uh, to 5,000.
3561
03:13:42,755 --> 03:13:44,957
And that simply overloaded
the environment.
3562
03:13:44,990 --> 03:13:47,660
♪ I will get by
3563
03:13:47,693 --> 03:13:50,663
Mickey Hart:
It got so, so popular,
3564
03:13:50,696 --> 03:13:52,898
so powerful a draw,
3565
03:13:52,931 --> 03:13:55,333
that the biggest places
were too small,
3566
03:13:55,367 --> 03:13:57,636
even the stadiums.
3567
03:14:01,674 --> 03:14:02,908
Playing to the stadiums
3568
03:14:02,941 --> 03:14:04,276
were akin to playing
in the studio
3569
03:14:04,309 --> 03:14:06,311
because the people
were all there...
3570
03:14:06,344 --> 03:14:07,880
There were 60,000 people there...
3571
03:14:07,913 --> 03:14:09,347
But it was basically...
3572
03:14:09,381 --> 03:14:11,116
You didn't have any touch
with those people.
3573
03:14:11,149 --> 03:14:14,186
They're hundreds
of feet away from you.
3574
03:14:15,921 --> 03:14:17,656
Phil Lesh: In the stadiums,
3575
03:14:17,690 --> 03:14:19,892
you're gonna have no contact
with your audience.
3576
03:14:19,925 --> 03:14:23,028
It's just not possible.
3577
03:14:23,061 --> 03:14:27,032
You know, it's just a sea
of faces about this big
3578
03:14:27,065 --> 03:14:29,001
and waving arms.
3579
03:14:29,034 --> 03:14:30,903
Man: Has success
spoiled the Dead?
3580
03:14:30,936 --> 03:14:31,970
- Yeah.
- Bob Weir: Yeah.
3581
03:14:40,946 --> 03:14:42,380
Sam Cutler:
I came back to America
3582
03:14:42,414 --> 03:14:44,349
after 30 years away.
3583
03:14:44,382 --> 03:14:47,352
I was absolutely gobsmacked
3584
03:14:47,385 --> 03:14:49,855
by the influence
of the Grateful Dead
3585
03:14:49,888 --> 03:14:53,792
and how it spread
all over the United States.
3586
03:14:56,128 --> 03:14:59,197
And then this is what
the mainstream culture
3587
03:14:59,231 --> 03:15:00,866
does, you know?
3588
03:15:00,899 --> 03:15:02,868
It neuters things
3589
03:15:02,901 --> 03:15:05,738
and declaws things, you know,
3590
03:15:05,771 --> 03:15:08,240
by absorbing them, you know.
3591
03:15:08,273 --> 03:15:10,375
They kinda love you to death.
3592
03:15:13,311 --> 03:15:16,014
Paumgarten:
The scene kept evolving.
3593
03:15:16,048 --> 03:15:19,251
They attracted
a new legion of fans.
3594
03:15:19,284 --> 03:15:21,186
And they became
popular and accepted,
3595
03:15:21,219 --> 03:15:22,755
and you found out
that, you know,
3596
03:15:22,788 --> 03:15:24,422
Peter Jennings went to shows
3597
03:15:24,456 --> 03:15:26,792
and Senator Leahy
was a Deadhead,
3598
03:15:26,825 --> 03:15:29,728
and the Grateful Dead,
God bless 'em,
3599
03:15:29,762 --> 03:15:30,929
were fine with that.
3600
03:15:32,230 --> 03:15:33,766
I found it affirming,
3601
03:15:33,799 --> 03:15:36,168
the fact that it was a big tent.
3602
03:15:36,201 --> 03:15:38,136
It wasn't just a bunch
of hippie chicks
3603
03:15:38,170 --> 03:15:41,173
or prep school
Deadheads or spinners.
3604
03:15:41,206 --> 03:15:44,910
They were open
to all kinds of people.
3605
03:15:44,943 --> 03:15:46,711
That was always part of it.
3606
03:15:48,113 --> 03:15:50,048
Garcia: Events have
carried us this far.
3607
03:15:50,082 --> 03:15:51,817
You know what I mean?
3608
03:15:51,850 --> 03:15:53,251
And that seems
to work pretty good
3609
03:15:53,285 --> 03:15:55,253
when we sort of take
a hands-off approach,
3610
03:15:55,287 --> 03:15:57,790
you know, kind of
let things happen.
3611
03:15:57,823 --> 03:15:59,858
So we'll see where this gets us
3612
03:15:59,892 --> 03:16:01,169
'cause right now
we're in motion.
3613
03:16:01,193 --> 03:16:02,460
We're on our way somewhere.
3614
03:16:02,494 --> 03:16:03,962
It's hard to tell where.
3615
03:16:05,330 --> 03:16:07,199
Cutler: What's
interesting to me
3616
03:16:07,232 --> 03:16:09,968
is the reaction
of the Deadheads.
3617
03:16:10,002 --> 03:16:12,337
When the Grateful Dead
became locked
3618
03:16:12,370 --> 03:16:14,406
into playing huge stadiums,
3619
03:16:14,439 --> 03:16:16,408
I mean, the Deadheads picked up
3620
03:16:16,441 --> 03:16:20,278
on the original ethos
of the Grateful Dead,
3621
03:16:20,312 --> 03:16:24,950
their inherently
anarchic tendencies.
3622
03:16:26,184 --> 03:16:27,920
And all of a sudden,
3623
03:16:27,953 --> 03:16:29,130
it was like they'd been stalked
3624
03:16:29,154 --> 03:16:30,455
by 50,000 lunatics.
3625
03:16:32,324 --> 03:16:35,127
Lesh: We should've known
that something was coming
3626
03:16:35,160 --> 03:16:38,196
when we realized
that a lot of times
3627
03:16:38,230 --> 03:16:40,799
there were more people
outside the shows
3628
03:16:40,833 --> 03:16:44,369
partying and trying
to find a way in for free
3629
03:16:44,402 --> 03:16:45,871
than there were inside.
3630
03:16:45,904 --> 03:16:49,842
♪ I spent a little time
on the mountain ♪
3631
03:16:49,875 --> 03:16:52,845
♪ Spent a little time
on the hill ♪
3632
03:16:54,046 --> 03:16:55,848
♪ I heard some say
3633
03:16:55,881 --> 03:16:57,950
♪ "Better run away"
3634
03:16:57,983 --> 03:17:00,819
♪ Others say
"Better stand still" ♪
3635
03:17:00,853 --> 03:17:03,221
Hart: It got so chaotic,
3636
03:17:03,255 --> 03:17:05,824
you couldn't take it
out of the bag.
3637
03:17:05,858 --> 03:17:08,226
We wanted to make
a statement saying that:
3638
03:17:08,260 --> 03:17:10,896
"You guys got to police
yourselves," you know?
3639
03:17:10,929 --> 03:17:12,473
You gotta be good neighbors,
you don't want to...
3640
03:17:12,497 --> 03:17:13,875
You can't be pee on the lawns
and everything.
3641
03:17:13,899 --> 03:17:15,033
You have to respect people.
3642
03:17:17,002 --> 03:17:18,837
McNally: What we
were trying to do
3643
03:17:18,871 --> 03:17:21,273
was simply preserve
our ability to do a show
3644
03:17:21,306 --> 03:17:24,176
under conditions in which
you had far too many people
3645
03:17:24,209 --> 03:17:26,411
saying "Oh, I'm just
here for the party,
3646
03:17:26,444 --> 03:17:29,081
even if I can't
get into the show."
3647
03:17:29,114 --> 03:17:31,383
And it's all too much.
3648
03:17:31,416 --> 03:17:33,485
Jerry Garcia did not
bargain to be the mayor
3649
03:17:33,518 --> 03:17:35,187
of a traveling
counter-cultural town.
3650
03:17:37,522 --> 03:17:39,391
Listen, please,
because this is serious.
3651
03:17:39,424 --> 03:17:41,459
McNally: And so I'd
get the band members
3652
03:17:41,493 --> 03:17:42,827
to record these letters.
3653
03:17:44,897 --> 03:17:46,941
...so at our sold-out shows,
if you don't have a ticket,
3654
03:17:46,965 --> 03:17:48,576
- please don't come.
- Got any extra tickets?
3655
03:17:48,600 --> 03:17:51,069
- Lesh: We really mean this.
- Just one ticket.
3656
03:17:51,103 --> 03:17:54,572
Jerry just couldn't bring
himself to do one of those.
3657
03:17:54,606 --> 03:17:57,342
Uh, but Phil didn't mind.
3658
03:17:59,611 --> 03:18:01,413
Folks who run this shop,
3659
03:18:01,446 --> 03:18:03,348
I need it starting
to be shut down now.
3660
03:18:03,381 --> 03:18:06,885
Lesh: We wrote more than one
open letter to Deadheads.
3661
03:18:06,919 --> 03:18:08,921
The area around every
Grateful Dead concert
3662
03:18:08,954 --> 03:18:10,588
is subject to the local
legal system.
3663
03:18:14,259 --> 03:18:16,094
- But it did nothing.
- Deadhead: Come on.
3664
03:18:16,128 --> 03:18:17,128
It's a joke.
3665
03:18:18,596 --> 03:18:20,141
Deadheads are a determined
bunch, though,
3666
03:18:20,165 --> 03:18:23,568
you know, uh, not much
for listening to rules.
3667
03:18:23,601 --> 03:18:26,538
When they were younger guys,
3668
03:18:26,571 --> 03:18:28,506
first startin' out
on this thing,
3669
03:18:28,540 --> 03:18:30,442
they decided just, "Okay,
3670
03:18:30,475 --> 03:18:32,644
"the rules aren't
cuttin' it for me.
3671
03:18:32,677 --> 03:18:35,914
"Society's typical way of dealing
with things isn't cuttin' it for me,
3672
03:18:35,948 --> 03:18:38,383
and I want to follow
my intuition."
3673
03:18:38,416 --> 03:18:39,584
I'm coming in, brother.
3674
03:18:39,617 --> 03:18:41,119
I'm coming in.
3675
03:18:41,153 --> 03:18:42,320
I got you.
3676
03:18:42,354 --> 03:18:44,056
Female Deadhead:
They cut loose.
3677
03:18:44,089 --> 03:18:46,024
By doing that,
3678
03:18:46,058 --> 03:18:47,259
their music has grown
3679
03:18:47,292 --> 03:18:50,195
into this blossoming
monster, you know?
3680
03:18:51,563 --> 03:18:53,065
So we do the same thing,
3681
03:18:53,098 --> 03:18:54,466
and they do the same thing.
3682
03:18:54,499 --> 03:18:56,134
The Dead's fans have always been
3683
03:18:56,168 --> 03:18:58,036
among the mellowest
on a music scene,
3684
03:18:58,070 --> 03:19:00,172
but lately they've been
having some problems.
3685
03:19:00,205 --> 03:19:01,515
Reporter: Charges
against Deadheads ranging
3686
03:19:01,539 --> 03:19:03,441
from public lewdness
and disturbing the peace
3687
03:19:03,475 --> 03:19:05,043
to using and selling drugs.
3688
03:19:05,077 --> 03:19:06,644
Hart:
It was a scary thing,
3689
03:19:06,678 --> 03:19:08,222
because you don't want
to wake up in the morning
3690
03:19:08,246 --> 03:19:10,315
finding people
are in jail, or deaths.
3691
03:19:10,348 --> 03:19:13,551
I said, "Oh man,
this is dangerous."
3692
03:19:13,585 --> 03:19:15,620
You know, we'll be responsible
3693
03:19:15,653 --> 03:19:17,455
for things that we can't control
3694
03:19:17,489 --> 03:19:19,924
or that they can't control,
and it'll get out of hand.
3695
03:19:21,126 --> 03:19:24,662
♪ One way or another
3696
03:19:24,696 --> 03:19:28,967
♪ One way or another
3697
03:19:29,001 --> 03:19:32,504
♪ One way or another
3698
03:19:32,537 --> 03:19:35,473
♪ This darkness got to give
3699
03:19:35,507 --> 03:19:37,475
McNally: Many of the people
without tickets
3700
03:19:37,509 --> 03:19:40,445
have no responsibility
or obligation to our scene.
3701
03:19:40,478 --> 03:19:44,349
It's up to you as Deadheads
to educate these people
3702
03:19:44,382 --> 03:19:47,019
and to pressure them
into acting like Deadheads
3703
03:19:47,052 --> 03:19:48,086
instead of maniacs.
3704
03:19:49,454 --> 03:19:51,056
They can only
get away with this crap
3705
03:19:51,089 --> 03:19:52,524
if you let them.
3706
03:19:52,557 --> 03:19:53,667
If you're not
part of the solution,
3707
03:19:53,691 --> 03:19:54,993
you're part of the problem.
3708
03:19:55,027 --> 03:19:56,561
Yeah, don't you do that.
3709
03:19:56,594 --> 03:19:58,730
The spirit of the Grateful
Dead is at stake,
3710
03:19:58,763 --> 03:20:00,665
and we'll do
what we have to do...
3711
03:20:00,698 --> 03:20:02,134
- Yeah.
- ...to protect it.
3712
03:20:04,736 --> 03:20:07,439
Yeah. I mean, the whole point
with the Grateful Dead
3713
03:20:07,472 --> 03:20:11,143
was we didn't tell anybody,
you know, to do nothin',
3714
03:20:11,176 --> 03:20:12,444
you know?
3715
03:20:14,779 --> 03:20:16,481
Just the idea is repellent.
3716
03:20:16,514 --> 03:20:18,116
The idea that we're gonna now
3717
03:20:18,150 --> 03:20:21,286
start telling people
how to behave.
3718
03:20:21,319 --> 03:20:23,021
I mean, we're not the
government, you know?
3719
03:20:23,055 --> 03:20:25,123
We're just musicians,
3720
03:20:25,157 --> 03:20:26,591
and it's enough
to try to control...
3721
03:20:26,624 --> 03:20:28,093
McNally: The main thing
3722
03:20:28,126 --> 03:20:31,396
was getting Jerry
to co-sign the message.
3723
03:20:31,429 --> 03:20:34,299
But he was such an
anti-authoritarian.
3724
03:20:34,332 --> 03:20:37,035
He was just said,
"Get somebody else to do it."
3725
03:20:37,069 --> 03:20:39,537
Man: Well, Phil said
that he would like Deadheads
3726
03:20:39,571 --> 03:20:41,673
to not bring hard drugs
around the Dead.
3727
03:20:41,706 --> 03:20:44,042
How do you feel about that?
3728
03:20:44,076 --> 03:20:45,810
I think drugs are really
a personal thing,
3729
03:20:45,843 --> 03:20:48,246
and anybody... everybody has
the right to take 'em...
3730
03:20:48,280 --> 03:20:50,048
- Mm-hmm.
- ...as far as I'm concerned.
3731
03:20:50,082 --> 03:20:51,816
- Yeah.
- And in my world,
3732
03:20:51,849 --> 03:20:53,385
everything is legal, you know,
3733
03:20:53,418 --> 03:20:55,187
and everybody can do
whatever they want,
3734
03:20:55,220 --> 03:20:56,554
and, I mean, I...
3735
03:20:56,588 --> 03:20:58,756
John Barlow: Jerry
did not do messages.
3736
03:20:58,790 --> 03:21:01,159
Period. End of story.
3737
03:21:01,193 --> 03:21:03,661
Man: Is there anything
that you feel Deadheads can do
3738
03:21:03,695 --> 03:21:05,330
to help out the Grateful Dead?
3739
03:21:05,363 --> 03:21:07,399
Garcia: Yeah, they can
keep having fun.
3740
03:21:09,167 --> 03:21:11,369
I mean, there was certainly
an underlying message
3741
03:21:11,403 --> 03:21:13,671
that was about
thinking for yourself.
3742
03:21:16,674 --> 03:21:18,343
Ignore alien orders.
3743
03:21:21,113 --> 03:21:23,715
Steve Parish: Jerry never
liked to talk to the audience
3744
03:21:23,748 --> 03:21:25,788
'cause he realized that they
hung on his every word.
3745
03:21:27,752 --> 03:21:29,787
Everybody in the audience
would think
3746
03:21:29,821 --> 03:21:32,557
that Jerry was there
to play to them that night.
3747
03:21:32,590 --> 03:21:34,792
And he was. He tried to.
3748
03:21:36,461 --> 03:21:38,163
He liked to have
the lights up a little bit
3749
03:21:38,196 --> 03:21:40,198
so he could see
the faces of the audience.
3750
03:21:40,232 --> 03:21:42,834
- He drew off of them.
- ♪ Drifting and dreaming
3751
03:21:43,901 --> 03:21:45,337
You gotta remember,
3752
03:21:45,370 --> 03:21:47,772
when you start
with the early days...
3753
03:21:49,907 --> 03:21:51,776
you couldn't tell the difference
3754
03:21:51,809 --> 03:21:53,645
between the stage
and the audience.
3755
03:21:55,180 --> 03:21:57,649
It was just
an extension of that.
3756
03:22:00,152 --> 03:22:02,354
But as time went on,
3757
03:22:02,387 --> 03:22:05,490
Jerry became
this icon to people.
3758
03:22:05,523 --> 03:22:08,226
And that became impossible.
3759
03:22:18,670 --> 03:22:20,438
Weir: I had a tough time
3760
03:22:20,472 --> 03:22:23,141
walking the streets
of any town we were in.
3761
03:22:24,642 --> 03:22:26,711
Jerry couldn't do it,
flat couldn't.
3762
03:22:30,215 --> 03:22:33,485
He was stuck in a hotel room
wherever we went.
3763
03:22:33,518 --> 03:22:34,886
He couldn't go out.
3764
03:22:36,288 --> 03:22:37,589
And there were people
3765
03:22:37,622 --> 03:22:39,524
scaling the walls of the hotel
3766
03:22:39,557 --> 03:22:40,892
trying to get at him.
3767
03:22:43,428 --> 03:22:45,530
That just drove him nuts.
3768
03:22:56,874 --> 03:22:59,211
Trixie: I spent
a lot of time on stage
3769
03:22:59,244 --> 03:23:01,546
staring at the audience
3770
03:23:01,579 --> 03:23:04,349
and just wondering
what they're seeing,
3771
03:23:04,382 --> 03:23:06,618
why are they so enraptured?
3772
03:23:08,320 --> 03:23:10,222
But I remember, um,
3773
03:23:10,255 --> 03:23:15,493
just knowing
that I shouldn't go out
3774
03:23:15,527 --> 03:23:17,529
and mingle with the Deadheads.
3775
03:23:19,597 --> 03:23:20,932
There had already been
3776
03:23:20,965 --> 03:23:24,936
kind of certain breaches
of personal space.
3777
03:23:26,504 --> 03:23:29,241
I think Jerry was already
a little freaked out
3778
03:23:29,274 --> 03:23:31,643
about the weird, um, things
3779
03:23:31,676 --> 03:23:33,945
that people
were projecting on him.
3780
03:23:33,978 --> 03:23:38,883
♪ Dear Mr. Fantasy,
play us a tune ♪
3781
03:23:40,552 --> 03:23:45,189
♪ Something
to make us all happy ♪
3782
03:23:47,559 --> 03:23:50,495
♪ Do anything
3783
03:23:50,528 --> 03:23:53,631
♪ Take us out of this gloom
3784
03:23:53,665 --> 03:23:56,968
♪ Sing a song, play guitar
3785
03:23:57,001 --> 03:23:59,437
♪ Make it snappy
3786
03:24:01,038 --> 03:24:02,740
♪ You are the one...
3787
03:24:02,774 --> 03:24:05,410
Weir: We were just
beset by people
3788
03:24:05,443 --> 03:24:09,314
who had just gone off
into this imaginary world...
3789
03:24:09,347 --> 03:24:11,716
♪ You break, you break
down in tears ♪
3790
03:24:11,749 --> 03:24:14,286
...to the point where
Jerry was basically
3791
03:24:14,319 --> 03:24:16,788
a messiah figure.
3792
03:24:16,821 --> 03:24:19,591
♪ ...a straight mind you had
3793
03:24:20,892 --> 03:24:23,027
♪ Wouldn't have known you
3794
03:24:23,060 --> 03:24:25,630
♪ All these years
3795
03:24:25,663 --> 03:24:27,332
Woman: How do you feel
about the fact
3796
03:24:27,365 --> 03:24:29,534
that you enjoy such
a divine-like status
3797
03:24:29,567 --> 03:24:31,336
in the eyes
of so many of your fans?
3798
03:24:31,369 --> 03:24:32,804
I mean, yeah, but I don't think
3799
03:24:32,837 --> 03:24:34,506
anybody takes it that seriously,
3800
03:24:34,539 --> 03:24:35,816
- you know what I mean?
- You might be surprised.
3801
03:24:35,840 --> 03:24:37,775
Well...
3802
03:24:37,809 --> 03:24:39,544
Then I'll... I'll put up with it
3803
03:24:39,577 --> 03:24:41,713
until they come for me
with the cross and nails.
3804
03:24:41,746 --> 03:24:42,780
You know?
3805
03:25:09,040 --> 03:25:10,975
One of the things that upsets me
3806
03:25:11,008 --> 03:25:14,946
about what happened
with Jerry in the nineties
3807
03:25:14,979 --> 03:25:17,449
was how isolated he was
3808
03:25:17,482 --> 03:25:21,886
in the middle of this
incredible community.
3809
03:25:23,455 --> 03:25:26,324
And I think he was
really suffering,
3810
03:25:26,358 --> 03:25:28,760
particularly after
Brent Mydland died.
3811
03:25:31,729 --> 03:25:33,998
It was obvious
that Jerry and Brent
3812
03:25:34,031 --> 03:25:36,701
really had some kind
of very deep
3813
03:25:36,734 --> 03:25:40,672
and mutually, uh,
enriching connection.
3814
03:25:46,143 --> 03:25:50,915
Weir: After Brent died
from heroin overdose,
3815
03:25:50,948 --> 03:25:53,351
the music kind of
sagged a little bit.
3816
03:25:54,786 --> 03:25:57,422
I think Jerry... the... the fact
3817
03:25:57,455 --> 03:25:59,957
that he was kind of
shut in by circumstance,
3818
03:25:59,991 --> 03:26:05,029
and you add on top of that
the band is not what it was...
3819
03:26:06,798 --> 03:26:10,502
well, that's a little...
3820
03:26:10,535 --> 03:26:14,406
That's a place where the plot
sort of turns a little bit,
3821
03:26:14,439 --> 03:26:19,511
and, uh, and he started
looking for a way to get out.
3822
03:26:22,947 --> 03:26:27,985
♪ I'd rather be
in some dark hollow ♪
3823
03:26:28,019 --> 03:26:32,857
♪ Where the sun
don't ever shine ♪
3824
03:26:33,991 --> 03:26:35,693
♪ Then to be
3825
03:26:35,727 --> 03:26:39,163
♪ In some big city
3826
03:26:39,196 --> 03:26:40,965
♪ In a small room
3827
03:26:40,998 --> 03:26:43,435
♪ With you upon my mind
3828
03:26:43,468 --> 03:26:45,102
Brigid Meier: April, 1990...
3829
03:26:46,738 --> 03:26:49,040
I get a letter from Jerry.
3830
03:26:50,475 --> 03:26:52,143
I haven't seen him, really,
3831
03:26:52,176 --> 03:26:53,845
for 28 years.
3832
03:26:55,680 --> 03:26:58,416
And he said,
"I'll always love you."
3833
03:26:59,717 --> 03:27:01,052
Okay.
3834
03:27:01,085 --> 03:27:03,588
What am I supposed
to do with that?
3835
03:27:06,223 --> 03:27:08,593
Then, a year later,
3836
03:27:08,626 --> 03:27:11,729
there was a note
from Dennis McNally,
3837
03:27:11,763 --> 03:27:13,898
their publicist,
3838
03:27:13,931 --> 03:27:16,000
the designated liaison.
3839
03:27:17,602 --> 03:27:19,136
And he said, "Call me.
3840
03:27:19,170 --> 03:27:21,439
Jerry would like to see you."
3841
03:27:22,507 --> 03:27:23,741
But, I mean,
3842
03:27:23,775 --> 03:27:24,918
he was living
with somebody else,
3843
03:27:24,942 --> 03:27:26,142
had a child with someone else.
3844
03:27:28,713 --> 03:27:32,049
In order to have a conversation,
3845
03:27:32,083 --> 03:27:34,686
we had to couch it
as an interview.
3846
03:27:34,719 --> 03:27:36,888
Garcia: I mean, you really
sort of started me going.
3847
03:27:36,921 --> 03:27:39,023
You bought me
that guitar, you know?
3848
03:27:39,056 --> 03:27:41,092
You're partly responsible!
3849
03:27:41,125 --> 03:27:44,696
So I took a tape recorder
and did an interview.
3850
03:27:44,729 --> 03:27:45,797
Yeah.
3851
03:27:45,830 --> 03:27:47,632
It goes by fast.
3852
03:27:47,665 --> 03:27:49,967
The last fifteen years
has been furious.
3853
03:27:50,001 --> 03:27:51,669
I'm sorry to hear that.
3854
03:27:51,703 --> 03:27:53,237
We never decided to go somewhere
3855
03:27:53,270 --> 03:27:55,139
or to become something,
you know what I mean?
3856
03:27:55,172 --> 03:27:57,575
Yeah, it's funny...
It's funny... it's...
3857
03:27:57,609 --> 03:27:59,010
At some point or another,
3858
03:27:59,043 --> 03:28:00,578
after I got out of the hospital,
3859
03:28:00,612 --> 03:28:02,614
when I had my coma and all that,
3860
03:28:02,647 --> 03:28:04,849
somewhere in there
I... I... I kind of...
3861
03:28:04,882 --> 03:28:06,651
I have this memory now...
3862
03:28:06,684 --> 03:28:08,520
I don't know
where it came from...
3863
03:28:08,553 --> 03:28:10,822
That's like as though you and I
3864
03:28:10,855 --> 03:28:13,558
had continued with our
lives together somehow
3865
03:28:13,591 --> 03:28:15,727
and had a whole alternate life,
3866
03:28:15,760 --> 03:28:17,270
you know what I mean?
But it's like...
3867
03:28:17,294 --> 03:28:18,896
I mean, it was
incredibly awkward.
3868
03:28:18,930 --> 03:28:20,732
He says, "You know,
3869
03:28:20,765 --> 03:28:23,501
there's a part of me that
is still in love with you."
3870
03:28:23,535 --> 03:28:24,945
still is very much
in love with you, you know?
3871
03:28:24,969 --> 03:28:26,270
Still, always.
3872
03:28:26,303 --> 03:28:28,673
It's a little scary.
3873
03:28:30,207 --> 03:28:31,876
McNally: She interviewed him
3874
03:28:31,909 --> 03:28:33,878
for an article that would
appear in Tricycle.
3875
03:28:33,911 --> 03:28:35,813
It was the Buddhist magazine.
3876
03:28:35,847 --> 03:28:37,048
I arranged it.
3877
03:28:37,081 --> 03:28:38,149
She was Buddhist,
3878
03:28:38,182 --> 03:28:39,784
and he was curious about it.
3879
03:28:39,817 --> 03:28:43,087
McNally was actually
the mastermind.
3880
03:28:43,120 --> 03:28:45,523
I don't know if that's entirely
a story I want to tell.
3881
03:28:45,557 --> 03:28:47,058
Uh, suffice it to say...
3882
03:28:47,091 --> 03:28:49,927
He did all he could
to facilitate this.
3883
03:28:49,961 --> 03:28:51,696
There was something there.
3884
03:28:51,729 --> 03:28:53,565
Both of them felt it.
3885
03:28:53,598 --> 03:28:56,000
It became like
a military operation
3886
03:28:56,033 --> 03:28:59,971
to extricate Jerry
and get me in there.
3887
03:29:00,004 --> 03:29:03,274
And eventually he went
to Hawaii with Brigid.
3888
03:29:05,743 --> 03:29:07,712
I didn't know
what we were doing.
3889
03:29:09,180 --> 03:29:11,282
I had no idea what we were doing
3890
03:29:11,315 --> 03:29:15,252
until about day 3.
3891
03:29:27,765 --> 03:29:30,067
We... We started scuba diving.
3892
03:29:30,101 --> 03:29:33,037
I'd never done it before,
3893
03:29:33,070 --> 03:29:35,607
and he was...
3894
03:29:35,640 --> 03:29:37,241
masterful.
3895
03:29:37,274 --> 03:29:40,578
He was an extraordinary diver.
3896
03:29:42,379 --> 03:29:44,057
Bill Kreutzmann:
Jerry and I started diving,
3897
03:29:44,081 --> 03:29:46,250
I think back in '86.
3898
03:29:46,283 --> 03:29:48,352
You couldn't keep us
out of the water.
3899
03:29:48,385 --> 03:29:49,721
He loved diving.
3900
03:29:51,022 --> 03:29:52,624
He loved the ocean,
3901
03:29:52,657 --> 03:29:54,367
and and used to do
this thing with his hands
3902
03:29:54,391 --> 03:29:55,960
so it looked
like a squid, right?
3903
03:29:55,993 --> 03:29:57,094
Like that.
3904
03:29:57,128 --> 03:29:59,063
And fuckin'... out of nowhere
3905
03:29:59,096 --> 03:30:00,798
all these fish
would come around.
3906
03:30:00,832 --> 03:30:03,034
You know, it was like,
he had this attraction.
3907
03:30:03,067 --> 03:30:06,170
Whether it was fish,
audience, whatever, you know,
3908
03:30:06,203 --> 03:30:08,139
He always had this way
of attracting things.
3909
03:30:10,007 --> 03:30:11,375
We liked to dive
3910
03:30:11,408 --> 03:30:13,110
because it has
a sense of freedom
3911
03:30:13,144 --> 03:30:16,347
that I don't know where
else you could get that.
3912
03:30:18,182 --> 03:30:20,184
Here was this beautiful
buffer, the ocean,
3913
03:30:20,217 --> 03:30:22,754
that kept all that
outside shit away.
3914
03:30:22,787 --> 03:30:24,321
You didn't have to
sign autographs
3915
03:30:24,355 --> 03:30:25,623
or any of that crap.
3916
03:30:27,959 --> 03:30:31,128
Meier: So he turned me on
to that world of his.
3917
03:30:32,229 --> 03:30:33,798
And I loved it.
3918
03:30:34,899 --> 03:30:36,233
I loved it.
3919
03:30:42,206 --> 03:30:43,808
At one point,
3920
03:30:43,841 --> 03:30:46,944
we're tired after diving
and hanging out.
3921
03:30:46,978 --> 03:30:48,345
He just looks at me,
and he said...
3922
03:30:49,714 --> 03:30:51,348
"Would you marry me?"
3923
03:30:54,919 --> 03:30:59,056
I said, "Yeah, okay."
3924
03:31:01,192 --> 03:31:04,796
So I didn't know what we were
doing until that moment.
3925
03:31:06,263 --> 03:31:07,965
Then he got on the phone.
3926
03:31:07,999 --> 03:31:09,934
He calls Hunter,
and he calls everybody.
3927
03:31:09,967 --> 03:31:11,969
He says,
"We're getting married."
3928
03:31:12,003 --> 03:31:15,172
And he's all excited,
and he's all happy.
3929
03:31:15,206 --> 03:31:18,743
It's like, "Okay,
what do we gotta do?"
3930
03:31:20,377 --> 03:31:21,779
Acupuncture.
3931
03:31:22,880 --> 03:31:24,882
Quit smoking.
3932
03:31:24,916 --> 03:31:27,418
Exercise.
3933
03:31:27,451 --> 03:31:30,187
Walk around the lake every day.
3934
03:31:30,221 --> 03:31:33,725
We... We started
working on Bowflexes.
3935
03:31:33,758 --> 03:31:36,127
We had a trainer,
personal trainer.
3936
03:31:37,795 --> 03:31:39,230
Suddenly he feels creative
3937
03:31:39,263 --> 03:31:41,365
and he wants to start
writing songs.
3938
03:31:41,398 --> 03:31:42,934
Hey.
3939
03:31:42,967 --> 03:31:44,435
Get in there, fellers.
3940
03:31:44,468 --> 03:31:47,705
Meier: And it's like,
"Hunter, come on over."
3941
03:31:47,739 --> 03:31:50,074
They wrote six songs.
3942
03:31:50,107 --> 03:31:54,879
I mean, it was just this
amazing eruption of energy.
3943
03:31:54,912 --> 03:31:56,814
Okay, I'm ready.
3944
03:31:56,848 --> 03:32:00,051
1, 2, 3, 4.
3945
03:32:05,389 --> 03:32:07,424
Meier:
There was this feeling.
3946
03:32:09,093 --> 03:32:10,962
It was real.
3947
03:32:10,995 --> 03:32:14,165
I wasn't the only one
who felt it. They felt it.
3948
03:32:16,367 --> 03:32:18,903
It was like, we're back.
3949
03:32:20,772 --> 03:32:22,974
We're back to those days
3950
03:32:23,007 --> 03:32:24,517
when we used to pick you
up from high school
3951
03:32:24,541 --> 03:32:26,143
and drive around,
3952
03:32:26,177 --> 03:32:28,312
and we were all together,
and it was all new,
3953
03:32:28,345 --> 03:32:31,282
and it was all fresh,
and it was all...
3954
03:32:31,315 --> 03:32:33,050
alive.
3955
03:32:39,556 --> 03:32:42,259
McNally: Reconnecting with
someone after 30 years...
3956
03:32:43,995 --> 03:32:47,364
there's no way that you
can't feel, you know,
3957
03:32:47,398 --> 03:32:49,400
in some weird way
that you're young again.
3958
03:32:51,268 --> 03:32:53,004
Hunter certainly thought so.
3959
03:32:53,037 --> 03:32:56,407
He wrote "The Days Between"
about just that.
3960
03:32:58,175 --> 03:33:01,345
It's the last
Hunter-Garcia masterpiece.
3961
03:33:01,378 --> 03:33:05,116
It's about looking
back on your youth
3962
03:33:05,149 --> 03:33:08,285
and seeing your whole life
3963
03:33:08,319 --> 03:33:09,987
that has passed in the interval,
3964
03:33:10,021 --> 03:33:11,956
and that's...
That's "The Days Between."
3965
03:33:11,989 --> 03:33:13,290
It's your life.
3966
03:33:15,492 --> 03:33:18,930
♪ Walked upon a mountaintop
3967
03:33:22,967 --> 03:33:26,170
♪ Walked barefoot
through the snow ♪
3968
03:33:30,007 --> 03:33:33,177
♪ Gave the best we had to give ♪
3969
03:33:37,314 --> 03:33:40,885
♪ How much we'll never know
3970
03:33:42,219 --> 03:33:46,390
♪ Never know
3971
03:33:49,994 --> 03:33:52,029
It wasn't me.
3972
03:33:52,063 --> 03:33:54,198
It was...
3973
03:33:54,231 --> 03:33:57,168
He got in touch
with a part of him.
3974
03:33:57,201 --> 03:33:59,937
I was just a catalyst, okay?
3975
03:33:59,971 --> 03:34:02,874
But he...
3976
03:34:02,907 --> 03:34:06,577
I think he had been
suffering for a long time
3977
03:34:06,610 --> 03:34:10,181
under the weight
and responsibility
3978
03:34:10,214 --> 03:34:12,016
of this behemoth.
3979
03:34:15,019 --> 03:34:17,188
I mean, at one point...
I can... I remember him.
3980
03:34:17,221 --> 03:34:19,456
We're in the kitchen,
we're talking,
3981
03:34:19,490 --> 03:34:21,558
and he said, "You know,
3982
03:34:21,592 --> 03:34:24,628
"I'd like to just live
on the ice cream money.
3983
03:34:24,661 --> 03:34:27,198
"You know, I could do that.
3984
03:34:27,231 --> 03:34:31,335
I could just live on that
and say the hell with this."
3985
03:34:33,670 --> 03:34:35,472
And, I said,
"Well, why don't you?"
3986
03:34:36,941 --> 03:34:38,475
"Oh, man, come on,
3987
03:34:38,509 --> 03:34:42,413
"do you know how many
people are depending
3988
03:34:42,446 --> 03:34:44,848
on this show
going down the road?"
3989
03:34:48,385 --> 03:34:50,922
And I understood in that moment.
3990
03:34:50,955 --> 03:34:53,224
It was a machine by then.
3991
03:34:56,093 --> 03:34:57,929
It wasn't just a bunch of guys
3992
03:34:57,962 --> 03:35:00,864
getting together
and making music.
3993
03:35:02,599 --> 03:35:06,637
This enormous community
was demanding
3994
03:35:06,670 --> 03:35:11,242
that he be the Grateful
Dead's Jerry Garcia.
3995
03:35:15,212 --> 03:35:17,114
Where's the freedom in that?
3996
03:35:19,984 --> 03:35:23,254
McNally: The Grateful
Dead became a weight.
3997
03:35:23,287 --> 03:35:25,556
By the Grateful Dead,
I do not mean the six guys,
3998
03:35:25,589 --> 03:35:29,126
I mean the phenomenon.
3999
03:35:29,160 --> 03:35:32,663
He had fifty people,
including me,
4000
03:35:32,696 --> 03:35:35,699
whose paycheck
he was in charge of.
4001
03:35:35,732 --> 03:35:38,502
And their families.
4002
03:35:38,535 --> 03:35:41,238
And a million people
who demanded that he play
4003
03:35:41,272 --> 03:35:44,075
eighty nights a year
for their happiness factor.
4004
03:35:44,108 --> 03:35:45,342
And it was a weight.
4005
03:35:45,376 --> 03:35:46,710
It was a responsibility.
4006
03:35:46,743 --> 03:35:49,146
This was a guy who didn't
want responsibility.
4007
03:35:49,180 --> 03:35:51,115
So he self-medicated
4008
03:35:51,148 --> 03:35:55,019
and had been doing so
for a very long time.
4009
03:35:56,453 --> 03:36:01,025
Meier: I can remember a
really chilling moment.
4010
03:36:01,058 --> 03:36:05,462
I'm backstage and I'm sitting
on the black equipment boxes.
4011
03:36:05,496 --> 03:36:08,399
And the doctor is telling me,
4012
03:36:08,432 --> 03:36:10,567
yeah, Jerry's using again.
4013
03:36:12,403 --> 03:36:15,639
Suddenly, it's all too obvious.
4014
03:36:17,241 --> 03:36:19,510
He's been out of it,
4015
03:36:19,543 --> 03:36:23,514
and he's been unpleasant
to be around.
4016
03:36:26,183 --> 03:36:30,621
And then the road manager,
he's saying,
4017
03:36:30,654 --> 03:36:32,156
"You know... you know,
Jerry's cool,
4018
03:36:32,189 --> 03:36:34,025
he's cool,
he can handle this."
4019
03:36:34,058 --> 03:36:36,203
I said, "Well why don't...
Why doesn't he go into rehab?"
4020
03:36:36,227 --> 03:36:38,662
"It's cool, he's gonna kick.
He always does,
4021
03:36:38,695 --> 03:36:40,497
and just, just
hang in there with it."
4022
03:36:40,531 --> 03:36:42,166
"Why don't we just
do an intervention?"
4023
03:36:42,199 --> 03:36:45,036
"Don't say anything.
4024
03:36:45,069 --> 03:36:46,403
"This is the Grateful Dead, man.
4025
03:36:46,437 --> 03:36:49,340
"We gotta keep this show goin'.
4026
03:36:49,373 --> 03:36:51,475
We gotta keep goin'."
4027
03:36:56,147 --> 03:36:59,250
Cutler: The secret of
longevity in the music business
4028
03:36:59,283 --> 03:37:01,718
is to get away from it.
Alright?
4029
03:37:01,752 --> 03:37:04,255
You gotta leave it man.
Fuck off.
4030
03:37:04,288 --> 03:37:05,565
Learn how to be
a deep sea fisherman.
4031
03:37:05,589 --> 03:37:07,558
Go SCUBA diving.
Whatever it is.
4032
03:37:07,591 --> 03:37:14,165
Snow skiing. Become, and be,
something completely else.
4033
03:37:14,198 --> 03:37:18,135
For somebody like Garcia, I mean,
that's the only way to survive.
4034
03:37:21,505 --> 03:37:24,541
Lesh: We had staff
that, you know,
4035
03:37:24,575 --> 03:37:27,278
depended on us for their living.
4036
03:37:27,311 --> 03:37:30,181
And we convinced ourselves
that we owed it
4037
03:37:30,214 --> 03:37:32,583
to our employees to keep going.
4038
03:37:35,186 --> 03:37:37,821
Right or wrong.
4039
03:37:37,854 --> 03:37:41,692
I could wish that we'd
thought more about Jerry.
4040
03:37:41,725 --> 03:37:45,529
And, uh...
4041
03:37:45,562 --> 03:37:48,199
So, yeah.
That's a...
4042
03:37:48,232 --> 03:37:50,767
That's a tender place.
4043
03:37:58,375 --> 03:38:02,479
Meier: So, after the show,
4044
03:38:02,513 --> 03:38:05,516
we go back to the hotel room.
4045
03:38:05,549 --> 03:38:08,719
I say, "I just want you to know
4046
03:38:08,752 --> 03:38:11,522
"that I know that you're using,
4047
03:38:11,555 --> 03:38:13,857
"and that's fine,
that's okay, that's cool.
4048
03:38:13,890 --> 03:38:17,261
"You do what you wanna do,
I don't... I'm not gonna try and stop you.
4049
03:38:17,294 --> 03:38:21,832
"I just really don't want
any secrets between us.
4050
03:38:21,865 --> 03:38:25,769
You know, I just
don't want any secrets."
4051
03:38:32,143 --> 03:38:36,680
And he looked at me,
and the room got cold,
4052
03:38:36,713 --> 03:38:40,784
and he says...
4053
03:38:40,817 --> 03:38:44,821
"I think it's time
for you to go now."
4054
03:38:48,925 --> 03:38:55,232
And he said, "You know,
I can't thank you enough,
4055
03:38:55,266 --> 03:38:58,269
but this isn't gonna work."
4056
03:39:08,479 --> 03:39:10,381
The band left,
4057
03:39:10,414 --> 03:39:13,650
and then I left for the airport.
4058
03:39:15,619 --> 03:39:20,257
I never saw him again.
4059
03:39:20,291 --> 03:39:22,559
That was that.
4060
03:39:25,896 --> 03:39:29,533
McNally: Have you ever had
a friend who was addicted?
4061
03:39:29,566 --> 03:39:33,537
Until they decide that
that's what they want,
4062
03:39:33,570 --> 03:39:36,873
everything you can say
is just gonna go
4063
03:39:36,907 --> 03:39:40,511
in one ear and out the other.
4064
03:39:40,544 --> 03:39:44,381
It's not like the band
didn't talk to him.
4065
03:39:44,415 --> 03:39:47,384
It's not like the band...
The band didn't, you know,
4066
03:39:47,418 --> 03:39:51,922
stage periodic, you know,
big throw down interventions.
4067
03:39:56,793 --> 03:39:59,930
That's the way it was.
4068
03:40:02,599 --> 03:40:05,469
Parish: He was my
boss, and my friend,
4069
03:40:05,502 --> 03:40:09,206
and somebody that I wanted
to protect from harm.
4070
03:40:10,741 --> 03:40:14,678
But could I help him save
himself from his own self?
4071
03:40:16,347 --> 03:40:20,717
I always thought of
Jerry as a strong guy.
4072
03:40:20,751 --> 03:40:24,388
I remember one time when a guy
came bolting out of the audience
4073
03:40:24,421 --> 03:40:26,357
so quick before
I could get to him,
4074
03:40:26,390 --> 03:40:28,425
and he was zeroed in
on grabbin' Jerry to hug him.
4075
03:40:28,459 --> 03:40:30,227
A lot of time people
would just want to
4076
03:40:30,261 --> 03:40:32,529
jump up there and hug 'em,
you know while he's playin'...
4077
03:40:32,563 --> 03:40:35,566
It's awkward.
And Jerry took his guitar,
4078
03:40:35,599 --> 03:40:37,701
and point foremost,
bang that guy
4079
03:40:37,734 --> 03:40:40,437
right in the solar plexus
and didn't miss a note,
4080
03:40:40,471 --> 03:40:41,805
and knocked him into my arms.
4081
03:40:41,838 --> 03:40:44,275
I said, well there,
you know, you see it.
4082
03:40:44,308 --> 03:40:46,743
He was strong, you know.
4083
03:40:46,777 --> 03:40:48,879
And, I didn't ever think
4084
03:40:48,912 --> 03:40:52,549
that he would get
deteriorated in that way.
4085
03:40:54,918 --> 03:40:56,696
Kreutzmann: I always thought
we were gonna be able
4086
03:40:56,720 --> 03:40:58,989
to get through to Jerry,
4087
03:40:59,022 --> 03:41:01,268
that we were gonna be able to
help get him into treatment.
4088
03:41:01,292 --> 03:41:03,860
We had seen
Jerry clean up and...
4089
03:41:03,894 --> 03:41:05,496
We've all racked our brains.
4090
03:41:05,529 --> 03:41:07,030
...and be in great shape.
4091
03:41:07,063 --> 03:41:08,799
What could we
have done differently?
4092
03:41:08,832 --> 03:41:11,335
I had faith that Jerry
would come back around.
4093
03:41:11,368 --> 03:41:14,505
The only thing we could have
done was to have taken a break.
4094
03:41:14,538 --> 03:41:16,707
Another break.
4095
03:41:16,740 --> 03:41:18,675
You know, and I would've-
I would've-
4096
03:41:18,709 --> 03:41:20,611
I would've been
okay with it this time.
4097
03:41:20,644 --> 03:41:24,448
But I never thought
that if we did take a break
4098
03:41:24,481 --> 03:41:25,882
that Jerry would stop.
4099
03:41:25,916 --> 03:41:27,818
He would just go out
with the Jerry Garcia Band
4100
03:41:27,851 --> 03:41:29,920
and keep going.
4101
03:41:31,822 --> 03:41:34,558
Trixie: Jerry was a
very strong individual.
4102
03:41:34,591 --> 03:41:36,460
Hart: Jerry Garcia was
a lot of great things.
4103
03:41:36,493 --> 03:41:38,495
You didn't tell Jerry
what to do.
4104
03:41:38,529 --> 03:41:40,030
He was a really cool guy.
4105
03:41:40,063 --> 03:41:42,699
You know, until
he killed himself.
4106
03:41:42,733 --> 03:41:45,336
Yeah, until he killed himself.
4107
03:41:45,369 --> 03:41:47,438
That's really what happened.
4108
03:41:49,573 --> 03:41:54,478
Barlow: I remember toward the
end of the fateful last tour,...
4109
03:41:56,079 --> 03:42:00,551
they were playing
Meadowlands in New Jersey.
4110
03:42:00,584 --> 03:42:01,985
And I turned around,
4111
03:42:02,018 --> 03:42:05,956
and there's Garcia
looking all white.
4112
03:42:05,989 --> 03:42:08,792
You know, everything's,
like, his beard, his face,
4113
03:42:08,825 --> 03:42:13,397
his skin is, like,
he's-he's kind of like
4114
03:42:13,430 --> 03:42:16,633
a luminous white figure,
4115
03:42:16,667 --> 03:42:20,771
already kind of angelic.
4116
03:42:20,804 --> 03:42:24,808
And I think he'd
just had enough.
4117
03:42:26,843 --> 03:42:31,382
Cutler: Garcia was suffering,
being in the Grateful Dead.
4118
03:42:31,415 --> 03:42:33,984
I don't think that
it was the dream
4119
03:42:34,017 --> 03:42:37,821
that he, you know,
wanted realized.
4120
03:42:39,456 --> 03:42:41,124
The Grateful Dead had become
4121
03:42:41,157 --> 03:42:44,495
a hugely successful
rock and roll band,
4122
03:42:44,528 --> 03:42:47,698
and in the process, of course,
4123
03:42:47,731 --> 03:42:50,601
they lost certain things.
4124
03:42:52,703 --> 03:42:54,671
Paumgarten:
You see people cheering
4125
03:42:54,705 --> 03:42:58,074
even when they should be crying.
4126
03:42:58,108 --> 03:43:02,078
Either because
the performance is very poor
4127
03:43:02,112 --> 03:43:05,682
or because the song is-is,
you know, is a dirge.
4128
03:43:06,817 --> 03:43:10,821
♪ Yesterday I begged you
4129
03:43:15,125 --> 03:43:18,729
♪ Before I hit the ground
4130
03:43:18,762 --> 03:43:21,064
Paumgarten: He's singing
about his own death,
4131
03:43:21,097 --> 03:43:24,501
looking like he's about to die.
4132
03:43:24,535 --> 03:43:28,539
♪ All I leave behind me
4133
03:43:30,541 --> 03:43:36,447
♪ Is only what I found
4134
03:43:37,714 --> 03:43:39,115
Paumgarten:
When I was younger,
4135
03:43:39,149 --> 03:43:42,453
it made the music more
interesting for me.
4136
03:43:42,486 --> 03:43:45,021
But by '95,
4137
03:43:45,055 --> 03:43:47,624
it was a depressing and
pretty intense experience.
4138
03:43:49,660 --> 03:43:51,127
You know, he had
something in him
4139
03:43:51,161 --> 03:43:56,767
that embraced his own
self-destruction.
4140
03:44:05,576 --> 03:44:07,978
Garcia: I feel that
my real responsibility
4141
03:44:08,011 --> 03:44:10,747
is to the audience
in the now, you know?
4142
03:44:12,549 --> 03:44:14,150
There was a conscious
decision in my life
4143
03:44:14,184 --> 03:44:16,587
to be involved in something
that was flowing,
4144
03:44:16,620 --> 03:44:18,955
and dynamic, and living...
4145
03:44:18,989 --> 03:44:23,126
and not so solid that you
couldn't tear it down.
4146
03:44:24,995 --> 03:44:26,697
Something that had
a life of its own
4147
03:44:26,730 --> 03:44:29,432
and I was just a part of it.
4148
03:44:33,737 --> 03:44:36,940
McNally: Monuments are an
attempt to subvert death.
4149
03:44:36,973 --> 03:44:39,442
To transcend death.
4150
03:44:41,144 --> 03:44:45,582
To make a monument of
something freezes it forever.
4151
03:44:47,784 --> 03:44:51,622
That is exactly opposite
what Jerry wanted.
4152
03:44:55,125 --> 03:44:59,930
From the very beginning,
Jerry wanted to do something
4153
03:44:59,963 --> 03:45:02,499
in real time
4154
03:45:02,533 --> 03:45:04,768
and to touch people's hearts.
4155
03:45:06,870 --> 03:45:09,840
He wanted to make
the Grateful Dead
4156
03:45:09,873 --> 03:45:13,510
as open-ended as possible.
4157
03:45:15,245 --> 03:45:16,813
Garcia: For me it
has a lot to do with
4158
03:45:16,847 --> 03:45:19,015
getting out of the way,
you know what I mean?
4159
03:45:19,049 --> 03:45:24,788
At some point I decided
not to be "me"
4160
03:45:24,821 --> 03:45:27,858
and to be "they."
4161
03:45:27,891 --> 03:45:31,728
When it's something more
than my own little self.
4162
03:45:31,762 --> 03:45:34,798
That's it, that's the goal.
4163
03:45:36,800 --> 03:45:40,771
McNally: In the last year and a
half, two year of his life,
4164
03:45:40,804 --> 03:45:45,275
when the diabetes was
playing havoc with his moods,
4165
03:45:45,308 --> 03:45:47,911
I knew he didn't
want to do interviews,
4166
03:45:47,944 --> 03:45:51,281
and so I didn't ask him.
4167
03:45:51,314 --> 03:45:54,117
But six months before he died,
4168
03:45:54,150 --> 03:45:57,954
I got a request,
and I took one look
4169
03:45:57,988 --> 03:46:00,891
and I went "This
he's going to want to do."
4170
03:46:00,924 --> 03:46:04,728
Garcia: My mother, I think,
must of taken me to see it.
4171
03:46:04,761 --> 03:46:07,664
McNally: The interview was for a
show on the American Movie Channel
4172
03:46:07,698 --> 03:46:09,766
called "The Movie
That Changed My Life."
4173
03:46:09,800 --> 03:46:11,301
Garcia:
You know I had my head down
4174
03:46:11,334 --> 03:46:12,903
and I cried
and except occasionally
4175
03:46:12,936 --> 03:46:14,971
I would glimpse the screen
and go, "Oh, ah!"
4176
03:46:15,005 --> 03:46:16,272
He immediately just sat down
4177
03:46:16,306 --> 03:46:18,241
and said, "Oh yeah!"
4178
03:46:18,274 --> 03:46:20,010
And started talking
for half an hour.
4179
03:46:22,613 --> 03:46:24,781
Garcia: That whole
business evoked something.
4180
03:46:24,815 --> 03:46:27,283
It like, touched something,
you know what I mean?
4181
03:46:27,317 --> 03:46:29,185
Something... I don't know what.
4182
03:46:29,219 --> 03:46:31,254
Something very strong.
4183
03:46:31,287 --> 03:46:34,324
It might have been the-
the thing of
4184
03:46:34,357 --> 03:46:35,959
a dead thing brought to life.
4185
03:46:37,227 --> 03:46:38,795
Frankenstein's Monster,
after all,
4186
03:46:38,829 --> 03:46:42,132
is a drive to reanimate or to...
4187
03:46:42,165 --> 03:46:44,801
To produce life.
4188
03:46:44,835 --> 03:46:47,237
Dr. Frankenstein:
It's alive.
4189
03:46:47,270 --> 03:46:49,740
Garcia: And it hit me in
that archetypal center.
4190
03:46:49,773 --> 03:46:51,842
Dr. Frankenstein:
It's alive!
4191
03:46:51,875 --> 03:46:53,309
You know like, vaboom, you know?
4192
03:46:53,343 --> 03:46:54,645
Dong, you know?
4193
03:46:54,678 --> 03:46:56,713
♪ Death don't
4194
03:46:59,015 --> 03:47:01,584
♪ Have no mercy
4195
03:47:03,153 --> 03:47:06,156
♪ In this land
4196
03:47:08,759 --> 03:47:10,393
Garcia:
But, really it's workin'.
4197
03:47:10,426 --> 03:47:13,964
The Grateful Dead is this
living, breathing thing.
4198
03:47:13,997 --> 03:47:17,167
♪ Death don't
4199
03:47:17,200 --> 03:47:18,635
It's not up to us to define it.
4200
03:47:18,669 --> 03:47:19,970
♪ Have no mercy
4201
03:47:20,003 --> 03:47:22,706
Or to enclose it in any way.
4202
03:47:22,739 --> 03:47:24,641
♪ In this land
4203
03:47:24,675 --> 03:47:25,909
It's whatever it is.
4204
03:47:28,378 --> 03:47:31,915
♪ In this land
4205
03:47:31,948 --> 03:47:34,785
I think that's one of
the parts of its magic.
4206
03:47:36,286 --> 03:47:39,823
The effect seems to be
not defining it
4207
03:47:39,856 --> 03:47:41,291
is that it becomes everything.
4208
03:49:00,436 --> 03:49:03,073
Woman: Nancy Smith and Ed
Rooney were the two winners,
4209
03:49:03,106 --> 03:49:04,875
but we're gonna break in
and break format,
4210
03:49:04,908 --> 03:49:06,309
- um, for a moment here.
- Man: Yes.
4211
03:49:06,342 --> 03:49:09,179
Woman:
We just got some real bad news.
4212
03:49:11,547 --> 03:49:13,283
Reporter:
Okay, that's fantastic.
4213
03:49:13,316 --> 03:49:14,918
- Thank you.
- You're welcome.
4214
03:49:14,951 --> 03:49:16,419
My pleasure.
I really enjoyed it.
4215
03:49:16,452 --> 03:49:17,797
Male reporter: Could I
take a few quick photos?
4216
03:49:17,821 --> 03:49:19,022
Oh, god, if you have to.
4217
03:49:19,055 --> 03:49:20,532
Male Reporter 2:
It's incredibly tragic,
4218
03:49:20,556 --> 03:49:22,392
and it's a little
frustrating right now
4219
03:49:22,425 --> 03:49:24,761
because we don't know
anything more than the fact
4220
03:49:24,795 --> 03:49:27,397
that Jerry Garcia has died.
4221
03:49:27,430 --> 03:49:29,265
He was found dead
a couple of hours ago.
4222
03:49:29,299 --> 03:49:30,376
Male Reporter 3: There's no easy
way to break this news to you,
4223
03:49:30,400 --> 03:49:33,403
but it's true, the unthinkable,
4224
03:49:33,436 --> 03:49:35,105
and the inevitable has happened,
4225
03:49:35,138 --> 03:49:38,108
and Jerry's gone.
4226
03:49:38,141 --> 03:49:40,052
Male Reporter 4: ...Grateful
Dead died earlier this morning
4227
03:49:40,076 --> 03:49:42,278
in California,
of an apparent heart attack.
4228
03:49:42,312 --> 03:49:46,249
Male Reporter 5: He's said to have
died with a smile on his face.
4229
03:49:50,353 --> 03:49:53,356
Garcia: Well, thanks a lot,
you guys, I certainly enjoyed it.
4230
03:49:53,389 --> 03:49:54,891
Woman:
Thank you.
4231
03:49:57,360 --> 03:50:03,433
♪ Fare you well, my honey
4232
03:50:07,270 --> 03:50:14,110
♪ Fare you well,
my only true one ♪
4233
03:50:16,079 --> 03:50:21,051
♪ All the birds
that were singing ♪
4234
03:50:23,586 --> 03:50:26,990
♪ Are flown
4235
03:50:27,023 --> 03:50:32,963
♪ Except you alone
4236
03:50:32,996 --> 03:50:35,065
Man: Hi. Bob would like
to make a brief statement,
4237
03:50:35,098 --> 03:50:36,432
and please, no questions.
4238
03:50:38,234 --> 03:50:41,604
♪ Going to leave
this brokedown palace ♪
4239
03:50:41,637 --> 03:50:44,474
Well, I guess some sad
news has come our way.
4240
03:50:44,507 --> 03:50:46,409
This morning, Jerry Garcia,
4241
03:50:46,442 --> 03:50:49,012
our friend and my brother,
4242
03:50:49,045 --> 03:50:51,848
passed away.
4243
03:50:51,882 --> 03:50:54,050
And I guess not much
can be said about that,
4244
03:50:54,084 --> 03:50:58,188
except that we also
have to remember
4245
03:50:58,221 --> 03:51:01,124
that his life was a...
4246
03:51:01,157 --> 03:51:03,326
far more a blessing
for all of us.
4247
03:51:03,359 --> 03:51:05,295
And I think we should,
perhaps, if we're gonna
4248
03:51:05,328 --> 03:51:08,098
dwell on anything,
dwell on that.
4249
03:51:11,267 --> 03:51:12,869
Thank you.
4250
03:51:12,903 --> 03:51:15,638
♪ In a bed, in a bed
4251
03:51:15,671 --> 03:51:20,176
♪ By the waterside
I will lay my head ♪
4252
03:51:20,210 --> 03:51:24,647
♪ Listen to the river
sing sweet songs ♪
4253
03:51:24,680 --> 03:51:27,250
♪ To rock my soul
4254
03:51:31,054 --> 03:51:35,892
Weir: Jerry wasn't interested
in building something
4255
03:51:35,926 --> 03:51:40,230
that will stand
the test of time.
4256
03:51:40,263 --> 03:51:44,901
But I-I don't think
that what we see
4257
03:51:44,935 --> 03:51:50,173
as time can put an end
to what we had.
4258
03:51:50,206 --> 03:51:53,176
I think it was, is,
and will be there.
4259
03:51:55,511 --> 03:51:58,014
Those moments were more alive
4260
03:51:58,048 --> 03:52:02,218
than-than anything
that a heart pumps out.
4261
03:52:05,155 --> 03:52:07,223
That's what we were living for.
4262
03:52:08,691 --> 03:52:12,395
And that was what we were
trying to coax through
4263
03:52:12,428 --> 03:52:14,297
on any given night on stage.
4264
03:52:20,536 --> 03:52:22,538
That was the fun.
4265
03:52:22,572 --> 03:52:24,207
That was the fun
he was talking about.
4266
03:52:24,240 --> 03:52:26,409
That's eternity.
4267
03:52:26,442 --> 03:52:30,080
♪ River gonna take me
4268
03:52:30,113 --> 03:52:33,616
♪ Sing me sweet and sleepy
4269
03:52:35,251 --> 03:52:38,054
♪ Sing me sweet and sleepy
4270
03:52:38,088 --> 03:52:41,557
♪ All the way back back home
4271
03:52:43,359 --> 03:52:47,163
♪ It's a far gone lullaby
4272
03:52:47,197 --> 03:52:51,601
♪ Sung many years ago
4273
03:52:51,634 --> 03:52:55,538
♪ Mama, Mama,
many worlds I've come ♪
4274
03:52:55,571 --> 03:52:58,975
♪ Since I first left home
4275
03:53:00,276 --> 03:53:03,346
♪ Going home, going home
4276
03:53:03,379 --> 03:53:08,118
♪ By the waterside
I will rest my bones ♪
4277
03:53:08,151 --> 03:53:12,088
♪ Listen to the river
sing sweet songs ♪
4278
03:53:12,122 --> 03:53:14,657
♪ To rock my soul
4279
03:53:18,761 --> 03:53:22,465
Garcia: I'm real happy
with the Grateful Dead.
4280
03:53:22,498 --> 03:53:25,035
I'm real happy with it.
4281
03:53:25,068 --> 03:53:27,370
What I'm hopin' is to be able to
4282
03:53:27,403 --> 03:53:30,573
see some way of extending
this idea beyond ourselves.
4283
03:53:30,606 --> 03:53:32,442
You know what I mean?
I wanna be feeling
4284
03:53:32,475 --> 03:53:35,211
that this idea
can continue without us.
4285
03:53:35,245 --> 03:53:37,547
It doesn't have to be
the Grateful Dead,
4286
03:53:37,580 --> 03:53:40,250
but something, you know?
4287
03:53:40,283 --> 03:53:43,119
Kerouac's books opened up
doors for me that...
4288
03:53:43,153 --> 03:53:45,255
That put me in
this life, you know?
4289
03:53:45,288 --> 03:53:47,457
I would like to do that
for somebody else,
4290
03:53:47,490 --> 03:53:49,659
you know what I mean?
4291
03:53:49,692 --> 03:53:51,561
And then it will
be there for anybody
4292
03:53:51,594 --> 03:53:55,098
who's got the spirit
to go for it.
4293
03:53:56,399 --> 03:53:59,569
♪ Fare you well, fare you well ♪
4294
03:53:59,602 --> 03:54:03,773
♪ I love you more
than words can tell ♪
4295
03:54:03,806 --> 03:54:07,443
♪ Listen to the river
sing sweet songs ♪
4296
03:54:07,477 --> 03:54:10,680
♪ To rock my soul
4297
03:54:10,713 --> 03:54:17,553
♪ Doo-doo-doo, doo-doo-doo-doo ♪
4298
03:54:19,189 --> 03:54:25,695
♪ Doo doo-doo-doo,
doo-doo doo-doo ♪
4299
03:54:25,728 --> 03:54:29,465
♪ Doo-doo-doo
4300
03:54:29,499 --> 03:54:34,404
♪ Doo-doo-doo-doo-doo
4301
03:54:34,437 --> 03:54:37,707
♪ Doo doo-doo-doo
4302
03:54:37,740 --> 03:54:40,743
♪ Doo-doo doo-doo
4303
03:54:40,776 --> 03:54:45,181
♪ Doo-doo do doo-doo-doo
4304
03:54:45,215 --> 03:54:49,419
♪ Doo-doo doo-doo
4305
03:55:31,227 --> 03:55:35,165
♪ If my words did glow ♪
4306
03:55:35,198 --> 03:55:39,402
♪ With the gold of sunshine ♪
4307
03:55:39,435 --> 03:55:43,506
♪ And my tunes were played ♪
4308
03:55:43,539 --> 03:55:46,709
♪ On the harp unstrung ♪
4309
03:55:46,742 --> 03:55:50,313
♪ Would you hear my voice ♪
4310
03:55:50,346 --> 03:55:54,450
♪ Come through
the music? ♪
4311
03:55:54,484 --> 03:55:59,189
♪ Would you hold it near ♪
4312
03:56:26,349 --> 03:56:30,520
♪ Let there be songs
4313
03:56:30,553 --> 03:56:32,855
♪ To fill the air
4314
03:56:35,858 --> 03:56:40,763
♪ Ripple in still water ♪
4315
03:56:42,432 --> 03:56:46,669
♪ When there is
no pebble tossed ♪
4316
03:56:46,702 --> 03:56:49,639
♪ Nor wind to blow
4317
03:56:49,672 --> 03:56:52,308
♪ Reach out your hand ♪
4318
03:57:44,794 --> 03:57:48,898
♪ That path is for
4319
03:57:48,931 --> 03:57:51,301
♪ Your steps alone
4320
03:57:54,870 --> 03:57:59,875
♪ Ripple in still water ♪
4321
03:58:01,411 --> 03:58:05,348
♪ When there is
no pebble tossed ♪
4322
03:58:05,381 --> 03:58:08,651
♪ Nor wind to blow
4323
03:58:08,684 --> 03:58:11,821
♪ You who choose
4324
03:58:11,854 --> 03:58:17,293
♪ To lead must follow ♪
4325
03:58:17,327 --> 03:58:20,863
♪ But if you fall
4326
03:58:20,896 --> 03:58:23,899
♪ You fall alone
4327
03:58:23,933 --> 03:58:27,737
♪ If you should stand ♪
4328
03:58:27,770 --> 03:58:30,940
♪ Then who's
to guide you? ♪
4329
03:58:33,008 --> 03:58:36,479
♪ If I knew the way
4330
03:58:36,512 --> 03:58:39,615
♪ I would take you home ♪
4331
03:58:39,649 --> 03:58:43,319
♪ La-da-da-da
4332
03:58:43,353 --> 03:58:46,522
♪ La-da-da-da-da-da
4333
03:58:48,057 --> 03:58:51,927
♪ Da-da-da, da-da
4334
03:58:51,961 --> 03:58:54,964
♪ Da-da, da-da-da
4335
03:58:54,997 --> 03:58:58,734
♪ Da-da-da-da
4336
03:58:58,768 --> 03:59:04,039
♪ Da-da-da-da-da-da
4337
03:59:04,073 --> 03:59:07,677
♪ Da-da-da-da
4338
03:59:07,710 --> 03:59:11,847
♪ Da-da da-da da
4339
03:59:14,784 --> 03:59:16,118
Thanks a lot.
4340
03:59:16,151 --> 03:59:18,754
See you in a little while.
4341
03:59:35,738 --> 03:59:39,008
♪ I wanna tell you
how it's gonna be ♪
4342
03:59:42,011 --> 03:59:45,047
♪ You're gonna
give your love to me ♪
4343
03:59:48,083 --> 03:59:51,821
♪ I wanna love you
night and day ♪
4344
03:59:54,424 --> 03:59:57,693
♪ You know my love
will not fade away ♪
4345
04:00:00,195 --> 04:00:04,500
♪ You know my love
will not fade away ♪
4346
04:00:04,534 --> 04:00:06,602
♪ Not fade away
4347
04:00:37,500 --> 04:00:40,670
♪ My love is bigger
than a Cadillac ♪
4348
04:00:43,573 --> 04:00:46,776
♪ I try to show you
but you drive me back ♪
4349
04:00:49,579 --> 04:00:53,115
♪ Your love for me
has got to be real ♪
4350
04:00:55,818 --> 04:00:59,455
♪ You're gonna know
just how I feel ♪
4351
04:01:02,191 --> 04:01:06,729
♪ Our love is real,
not fade away ♪
4352
04:01:06,762 --> 04:01:08,664
♪ Not fade away
4353
04:01:08,688 --> 04:01:10,688
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