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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:10,967 --> 00:00:14,231 [tense ambient music] 2 00:00:14,362 --> 00:00:20,672 โ™ช 3 00:00:20,803 --> 00:00:22,544 [Neyfakh] Up till now, I have been telling you 4 00:00:22,674 --> 00:00:24,676 the part of the Iran-Contra story 5 00:00:24,807 --> 00:00:27,070 that was hidden from the American public. 6 00:00:27,201 --> 00:00:29,551 โ™ช 7 00:00:29,681 --> 00:00:33,642 But when a U.S. cargo plane went down in Central America 8 00:00:33,772 --> 00:00:36,775 and a Lebanese magazine reported on a secret trip 9 00:00:36,906 --> 00:00:39,735 to Iran by senior Reagan officials, 10 00:00:40,866 --> 00:00:44,305 the contours of a strange scheme became visible. 11 00:00:44,435 --> 00:00:50,615 โ™ช 12 00:00:50,746 --> 00:00:52,661 And all of a sudden, 13 00:00:52,791 --> 00:00:56,230 the walls of Oliver North's room 392 were breached. 14 00:00:58,667 --> 00:01:01,626 The country had a lot of questions. 15 00:01:01,757 --> 00:01:03,585 And it wasn't just North's destiny 16 00:01:03,715 --> 00:01:05,282 that would hang in the balance, 17 00:01:05,413 --> 00:01:06,675 but also the legacy 18 00:01:06,805 --> 00:01:09,199 of the president he had served. 19 00:01:11,201 --> 00:01:13,551 The brewing scandal felt eerily familiar 20 00:01:13,682 --> 00:01:16,815 to one the country had been through a decade before. 21 00:01:16,946 --> 00:01:18,556 Everybody remembered Watergate as, like, 22 00:01:18,687 --> 00:01:20,254 this television event. 23 00:01:20,384 --> 00:01:22,734 [no audible dialogue] 24 00:01:22,865 --> 00:01:25,607 So a lot of people just wanted to write 25 00:01:25,737 --> 00:01:27,565 about the television event 26 00:01:27,696 --> 00:01:29,480 and about the people involved in it, 27 00:01:29,611 --> 00:01:32,353 you know, some of these real characters, 28 00:01:32,483 --> 00:01:35,269 when that wasn't the story at all. 29 00:01:35,399 --> 00:01:36,879 It was far more sophisticated, 30 00:01:37,009 --> 00:01:40,274 complex and frankly scarier than Watergate-- 31 00:01:40,404 --> 00:01:42,363 far scarier than Watergate. 32 00:01:42,493 --> 00:01:44,582 โ™ช 33 00:01:44,713 --> 00:01:47,324 I'm Leon Neyfakh. 34 00:01:47,455 --> 00:01:49,848 This is Fiasco-- 35 00:01:49,979 --> 00:01:52,721 the Story of Iran-Contra. 36 00:01:52,851 --> 00:01:55,680 [grave music] 37 00:01:55,811 --> 00:01:59,510 โ™ช 38 00:01:59,641 --> 00:02:02,557 Before we look at the public face of Iran-Contra, 39 00:02:02,687 --> 00:02:05,473 let's take a moment to remember how it all began. 40 00:02:05,603 --> 00:02:07,953 [cheers and applause] 41 00:02:08,084 --> 00:02:09,955 [light rock music] 42 00:02:10,086 --> 00:02:12,088 Place your left hand on the [inaudible] Bible 43 00:02:12,219 --> 00:02:13,611 and raise your right hand and repeat... 44 00:02:13,742 --> 00:02:16,919 In January of 1981, Reagan became president 45 00:02:17,049 --> 00:02:19,835 of the United States in a landslide. 46 00:02:19,965 --> 00:02:22,751 The American people were giving up on Jimmy Carter, 47 00:02:22,881 --> 00:02:24,318 a president who had been crippled 48 00:02:24,448 --> 00:02:27,799 by the 1979 hostage crisis. 49 00:02:27,930 --> 00:02:29,888 Reagan's promise that he would be tough 50 00:02:30,019 --> 00:02:31,977 on terror struck a chord. 51 00:02:32,108 --> 00:02:34,458 [Reagan] The United States gives terrorists no rewards 52 00:02:34,589 --> 00:02:36,460 and no guarantees. 53 00:02:36,591 --> 00:02:39,463 We make no concessions. We make no deals. 54 00:02:39,594 --> 00:02:42,727 Ronald Reagan set Americans' expectations 55 00:02:42,858 --> 00:02:44,555 and the world's expectations 56 00:02:44,686 --> 00:02:46,818 that this would be the toughest 57 00:02:46,949 --> 00:02:48,864 anti-terrorist American administration 58 00:02:48,994 --> 00:02:50,866 that anyone had ever seen. 59 00:02:50,996 --> 00:02:53,608 But halfway through Reagan's second term, 60 00:02:53,738 --> 00:02:56,872 the United States still had hostages in Lebanon. 61 00:02:57,002 --> 00:02:58,743 While some had been freed, 62 00:02:58,874 --> 00:03:00,658 even more had been taken captive 63 00:03:00,789 --> 00:03:03,574 amid ongoing negotiations with Iran. 64 00:03:04,314 --> 00:03:06,795 In his interactions with the press, Ronald Reagan, 65 00:03:06,925 --> 00:03:09,885 the one-time great communicator, began to falter. 66 00:03:10,015 --> 00:03:12,714 It seemed the president now found himself trapped 67 00:03:12,844 --> 00:03:14,672 in a situation he couldn't talk his way out of. 68 00:03:14,803 --> 00:03:17,414 If your arms shipments had no effect 69 00:03:17,545 --> 00:03:19,547 on the release of the hostages, 70 00:03:19,677 --> 00:03:22,550 then how do you explain the release of the hostages 71 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,509 at the same time that the shipments were coming in? 72 00:03:25,640 --> 00:03:28,512 The--it's a strange situation. As I say, we... 73 00:03:28,643 --> 00:03:30,471 Publicly, the president was issuing 74 00:03:30,601 --> 00:03:32,690 firm denials of wrongdoing... 75 00:03:32,821 --> 00:03:36,564 There was no deception intended by us. 76 00:03:36,694 --> 00:03:38,740 We had to have it limited 77 00:03:38,870 --> 00:03:42,439 to only the barest number of people that had to know. 78 00:03:42,570 --> 00:03:44,702 I was not breaking any law in doing that. 79 00:03:44,833 --> 00:03:47,966 ...while privately the administration was scrambling 80 00:03:48,097 --> 00:03:51,361 to manage the fallout of the arms-for-hostages scandal. 81 00:03:52,188 --> 00:03:54,016 The public had yet to find out 82 00:03:54,146 --> 00:03:56,845 that that was just one half of a convoluted plot 83 00:03:56,975 --> 00:03:59,978 that connected it to another brewing controversy: 84 00:04:00,109 --> 00:04:03,721 America's secret support for the Contra War in Nicaragua. 85 00:04:04,853 --> 00:04:07,551 [man 1] It's going to be very hard indeed for the president 86 00:04:07,682 --> 00:04:09,988 to regain a tactical advantage on this. 87 00:04:10,119 --> 00:04:12,513 [man 2] Tonight, they called on Attorney General Meese 88 00:04:12,643 --> 00:04:14,906 to set up an independent investigation 89 00:04:15,037 --> 00:04:17,387 of both the arms deal and the Contra connection. 90 00:04:17,518 --> 00:04:19,041 [suspenseful music] 91 00:04:19,171 --> 00:04:21,043 Ed Meese, the attorney general, 92 00:04:21,173 --> 00:04:24,742 had long been a close confidant of Ronald Reagan, 93 00:04:24,873 --> 00:04:27,049 dating back to when Reagan was governor of California 94 00:04:27,179 --> 00:04:29,747 and Meese was his chief of staff. 95 00:04:29,878 --> 00:04:32,446 Mutual friends would say that theirs was a relationship 96 00:04:32,576 --> 00:04:34,622 based on fierce loyalty. 97 00:04:34,752 --> 00:04:36,885 Look, is that-- is that something 98 00:04:37,015 --> 00:04:39,670 that you shouldn't have with an attorney general? 99 00:04:39,801 --> 00:04:41,803 That doesn't necessarily have to be the case. 100 00:04:41,933 --> 00:04:44,762 I mean, I think you could have a close relationship 101 00:04:44,893 --> 00:04:46,590 with the attorney general 102 00:04:46,721 --> 00:04:50,159 as long as the attorney general understands 103 00:04:50,290 --> 00:04:55,120 that his first responsibility is to protect the Constitution 104 00:04:55,251 --> 00:04:58,776 and protect and enforce the laws of this country. 105 00:04:58,907 --> 00:05:00,648 So help me God. 106 00:05:00,778 --> 00:05:02,519 - Congratulations, sir. - Thank you. 107 00:05:02,650 --> 00:05:04,608 His first responsibility 108 00:05:04,739 --> 00:05:08,525 is not to the president, but to the country. 109 00:05:08,656 --> 00:05:11,528 I will try to carry out the job 110 00:05:11,659 --> 00:05:12,790 in a way that will merit your confidence. 111 00:05:12,921 --> 00:05:14,749 I appreciate it. 112 00:05:14,879 --> 00:05:16,446 I've got a problem with a neighbor out around-- 113 00:05:16,577 --> 00:05:18,448 [laughter] 114 00:05:18,579 --> 00:05:20,058 [tense piano music] 115 00:05:20,189 --> 00:05:22,147 When the Reagan White House needed help, 116 00:05:22,278 --> 00:05:24,019 they called in Meese to provide the guidance 117 00:05:24,149 --> 00:05:26,587 he had always loyally given. 118 00:05:26,717 --> 00:05:28,632 In this case, they wanted Meese 119 00:05:28,763 --> 00:05:30,852 to put the facts together to help them understand 120 00:05:30,982 --> 00:05:31,896 what had actually happened. 121 00:05:32,027 --> 00:05:34,682 โ™ช 122 00:05:34,812 --> 00:05:36,074 My name is Chuck Cooper. 123 00:05:36,205 --> 00:05:38,076 I was the assistant attorney general 124 00:05:38,207 --> 00:05:41,645 for the Office of Legal Counsel in the Department of Justice 125 00:05:41,776 --> 00:05:44,300 during the second term of the Reagan administration. 126 00:05:44,431 --> 00:05:46,824 My office had been very much involved 127 00:05:46,955 --> 00:05:50,654 with Ed Meese, the attorney general, 128 00:05:50,785 --> 00:05:55,006 in trying to identify the sweep of legal issues 129 00:05:55,137 --> 00:05:58,140 that had been raised by these events. 130 00:05:58,270 --> 00:06:03,667 Reagan instructed Ed Meese to take control 131 00:06:03,798 --> 00:06:06,061 and that everybody in the administration, 132 00:06:06,191 --> 00:06:11,022 in these agencies, were to cooperate with Ed 133 00:06:11,153 --> 00:06:15,244 and his effort to get to the bottom of the facts. 134 00:06:15,375 --> 00:06:17,681 There was a meeting in Admiral Poindexter's office 135 00:06:17,812 --> 00:06:19,727 in the White House, 136 00:06:19,857 --> 00:06:23,644 and Ed Meese asked me to come along to this meeting. 137 00:06:23,774 --> 00:06:25,863 And we were going over prepared testimony 138 00:06:25,994 --> 00:06:28,344 that CIA Director Casey 139 00:06:28,475 --> 00:06:30,825 was going to deliver the following day. 140 00:06:30,955 --> 00:06:32,870 And while we were going through this, 141 00:06:33,001 --> 00:06:35,438 the person in the room, 142 00:06:35,569 --> 00:06:39,747 who was clearly the person in possession of the facts, 143 00:06:39,877 --> 00:06:43,011 was Colonel North who, at that time, I didn't know. 144 00:06:43,141 --> 00:06:45,666 As we were going over it, line by line, 145 00:06:45,796 --> 00:06:49,060 Casey's written prepared statement, 146 00:06:49,191 --> 00:06:51,802 I remember very well that Oliver North insisted 147 00:06:51,933 --> 00:06:54,979 that a particular factual change be made 148 00:06:55,110 --> 00:06:58,635 in that prepared testimony. 149 00:06:58,766 --> 00:07:00,724 The CIA director, Bill Casey, 150 00:07:00,855 --> 00:07:02,726 planned to testify that his department 151 00:07:02,857 --> 00:07:04,424 hadn't known about their aircraft 152 00:07:04,554 --> 00:07:06,817 carrying shipments of Hawk missiles to Iran 153 00:07:06,948 --> 00:07:08,297 until after the fact. 154 00:07:08,428 --> 00:07:12,519 Col. North insisted that that be revised to say no one 155 00:07:12,649 --> 00:07:17,001 in the United States government knew that that had happened. 156 00:07:17,132 --> 00:07:20,831 Ed Meese and I certainly didn't have any reason at all 157 00:07:20,962 --> 00:07:23,878 to question Oliver North's understanding of the facts, 158 00:07:24,008 --> 00:07:25,967 and we didn't. 159 00:07:26,097 --> 00:07:29,013 And, as far as we could tell, no one else in the room 160 00:07:29,144 --> 00:07:31,755 had any reason to question Oliver North. 161 00:07:33,757 --> 00:07:35,977 As I was leaving, 162 00:07:36,107 --> 00:07:38,240 Peter Wallison saw me in the hall. 163 00:07:38,370 --> 00:07:41,939 He asked me to join him in his office. 164 00:07:42,070 --> 00:07:44,942 While Chuck Cooper was in my office, 165 00:07:45,073 --> 00:07:47,728 we were going over some testimony 166 00:07:47,858 --> 00:07:50,295 that Bill Casey was going to make. 167 00:07:50,426 --> 00:07:54,909 The counsel to the State Department called me 168 00:07:55,039 --> 00:07:57,912 and said that Secretary of State Shultz 169 00:07:58,042 --> 00:08:01,785 had heard someone tell the president 170 00:08:01,916 --> 00:08:06,050 that some Hawk missiles had been sent to Iran 171 00:08:06,181 --> 00:08:09,880 and the hostages would be released. 172 00:08:10,011 --> 00:08:11,926 And that was directly contrary 173 00:08:12,056 --> 00:08:15,669 to what we had just agreed upon 174 00:08:15,799 --> 00:08:17,888 was the fact that no one 175 00:08:18,019 --> 00:08:19,847 in the United States government knew 176 00:08:19,977 --> 00:08:22,937 about these 85 arms shipments. 177 00:08:23,067 --> 00:08:26,506 But we had to find out what the actual facts were. 178 00:08:26,636 --> 00:08:30,205 And the trouble is the facts kept changing. 179 00:08:30,335 --> 00:08:33,774 That, to us, was a very serious problem. 180 00:08:35,297 --> 00:08:37,125 Too many people inside the administration 181 00:08:37,255 --> 00:08:38,735 were saying different things 182 00:08:38,866 --> 00:08:41,782 that didn't jibe with each other. 183 00:08:41,912 --> 00:08:44,872 And the president was getting a little bit 184 00:08:45,002 --> 00:08:46,700 too close to the fire here. 185 00:08:46,830 --> 00:08:47,875 He could get burned from this. 186 00:08:48,005 --> 00:08:50,051 And so Meese's goal for himself 187 00:08:50,181 --> 00:08:52,227 was to make the case 188 00:08:52,357 --> 00:08:54,969 that Reagan knew nothing about it. 189 00:08:55,099 --> 00:08:56,884 And so he went about interviewing 190 00:08:57,014 --> 00:08:58,363 most of the key players. 191 00:08:58,494 --> 00:09:01,149 [tense piano music] 192 00:09:01,279 --> 00:09:04,065 โ™ช 193 00:09:04,195 --> 00:09:06,763 [Neyfakh] As word of Meese's investigation spread, 194 00:09:06,894 --> 00:09:08,852 Reagan's national security advisor, 195 00:09:08,983 --> 00:09:11,986 John Poindexter, called Oliver North to tell him 196 00:09:12,116 --> 00:09:15,163 that investigators would be coming to search his office. 197 00:09:15,293 --> 00:09:17,861 North had been taking notes and writing memos 198 00:09:17,992 --> 00:09:20,516 for years at this point, and the call from Poindexter 199 00:09:20,647 --> 00:09:23,127 set off a frenzy in North's office. 200 00:09:23,258 --> 00:09:26,174 [racing music] 201 00:09:26,304 --> 00:09:28,393 [McManus] Ollie North knew that 202 00:09:28,524 --> 00:09:31,048 Ed Meese's investigators 203 00:09:31,179 --> 00:09:34,138 were on the trail that could expose the diversion 204 00:09:34,269 --> 00:09:36,053 and who knows what else. 205 00:09:36,184 --> 00:09:39,274 So he told his secretary, Fawn Hall, "We're in trouble. 206 00:09:39,404 --> 00:09:42,320 We've got to get rid of some of these documents." 207 00:09:42,451 --> 00:09:44,845 North needed to get rid of any evidence 208 00:09:44,975 --> 00:09:46,455 that would expose the diversion of funds 209 00:09:46,586 --> 00:09:48,239 from the sale of weapons in Iran 210 00:09:48,370 --> 00:09:50,894 to support the Contras in Nicaragua. 211 00:09:51,025 --> 00:09:53,114 He was determined to protect the president. 212 00:09:53,244 --> 00:09:55,943 Where they could, Oliver North and Fawn Hall 213 00:09:56,073 --> 00:09:57,858 altered the documents to align 214 00:09:57,988 --> 00:10:00,121 with North's altered chronology of events. 215 00:10:00,251 --> 00:10:02,036 But with investigators making the rounds, 216 00:10:02,166 --> 00:10:03,994 they finally took stacks of documents 217 00:10:04,125 --> 00:10:05,822 and began to shred them. 218 00:10:05,953 --> 00:10:07,824 โ™ช 219 00:10:07,955 --> 00:10:09,913 At one point, North and Hall had stuffed 220 00:10:10,044 --> 00:10:12,002 so many documents into one of his shredders 221 00:10:12,133 --> 00:10:14,178 that it jammed. 222 00:10:15,484 --> 00:10:18,356 Meanwhile, across the street at the White House, 223 00:10:18,487 --> 00:10:22,012 John Poindexter was also cleaning house. 224 00:10:22,143 --> 00:10:24,101 [indistinct chatter] 225 00:10:24,232 --> 00:10:29,498 The only thing that I know that was destroyed 226 00:10:29,629 --> 00:10:33,284 was the preliminary draft of the covert finding, 227 00:10:33,415 --> 00:10:35,896 which I destroyed. 228 00:10:36,026 --> 00:10:36,984 [Neyfakh] The so-called finding 229 00:10:37,114 --> 00:10:38,289 that Poindexter destroyed 230 00:10:38,420 --> 00:10:40,117 was a document signed by Reagan 231 00:10:40,248 --> 00:10:42,076 stating that the purpose of the arms sales 232 00:10:42,206 --> 00:10:44,078 was to rescue American hostages. 233 00:10:44,208 --> 00:10:45,906 [Poindexter] I decided that 234 00:10:46,036 --> 00:10:47,995 the first version of the finding 235 00:10:48,125 --> 00:10:51,259 was not a complete explanation of what we were doing, 236 00:10:51,389 --> 00:10:53,043 was not important, 237 00:10:53,174 --> 00:10:55,437 and so I personally destroyed it. 238 00:10:55,567 --> 00:10:57,874 I brought it home and put it in a can 239 00:10:58,005 --> 00:10:59,963 and lit a match to it. 240 00:11:00,094 --> 00:11:01,878 [Neyfakh] So that took care of that at least. 241 00:11:02,009 --> 00:11:03,314 But there was also the matter 242 00:11:03,445 --> 00:11:05,273 of something called the PROFS system, 243 00:11:05,403 --> 00:11:07,318 an early version of email 244 00:11:07,449 --> 00:11:09,146 that John Poindexter, Bud McFarlane, 245 00:11:09,277 --> 00:11:10,974 and Oliver North had used 246 00:11:11,105 --> 00:11:13,237 to communicate about the arms deals. 247 00:11:13,368 --> 00:11:15,283 As Meese's investigators began combing 248 00:11:15,413 --> 00:11:18,112 the National Security Council files, 249 00:11:18,242 --> 00:11:21,071 Poindexter deleted thousands of notes from his computer. 250 00:11:21,202 --> 00:11:23,073 [Byrne] When Ed Meese sent 251 00:11:23,204 --> 00:11:25,336 two of his very senior aides 252 00:11:25,467 --> 00:11:29,253 to Oliver North's office to look for files, 253 00:11:29,384 --> 00:11:31,125 North was still there. 254 00:11:31,255 --> 00:11:32,561 He happened to be shredding documents 255 00:11:32,692 --> 00:11:35,259 as they were investigating. 256 00:11:35,390 --> 00:11:37,000 [Naughton] Meese's investigators were looking 257 00:11:37,131 --> 00:11:39,307 for a couple of things, one: 258 00:11:39,437 --> 00:11:46,227 whether this had been truly an exchange of weapons 259 00:11:46,357 --> 00:11:48,403 for the release of hostages. 260 00:11:48,533 --> 00:11:52,189 At the same time, they wanted to know, was it authorized? 261 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,278 If so, was it disclosed to Congress? 262 00:11:54,409 --> 00:11:55,366 [Neyfakh] The two investigators 263 00:11:55,497 --> 00:11:57,107 were trying to be quiet 264 00:11:57,238 --> 00:11:58,935 so as not to tip off Oliver North 265 00:11:59,066 --> 00:12:00,807 to anything they might find. 266 00:12:00,937 --> 00:12:02,373 Then, suddenly, 267 00:12:02,504 --> 00:12:04,549 one of them stumbled upon something amazing-- 268 00:12:04,680 --> 00:12:07,857 a document that tied the illegal weapons deal 269 00:12:07,988 --> 00:12:09,424 with Iran explicitly 270 00:12:09,554 --> 00:12:11,513 to another covert operation entirely. 271 00:12:11,643 --> 00:12:13,994 [Byrne] And one of the investigators remembers 272 00:12:14,124 --> 00:12:15,386 kicking the other under the table 273 00:12:15,517 --> 00:12:20,261 and showing him the memo that raised the idea 274 00:12:20,391 --> 00:12:23,568 of diverting arms sales revenues 275 00:12:23,699 --> 00:12:26,441 from the Iran deals to the Nicaraguan Contras. 276 00:12:26,571 --> 00:12:28,922 But they didn't want North to know 277 00:12:29,052 --> 00:12:31,402 that they had found this item. 278 00:12:31,533 --> 00:12:34,275 [Neyfakh] Meese's aides, Brad Reynolds and John Richardson, 279 00:12:34,405 --> 00:12:37,017 read the memo, slipped it back into the file, 280 00:12:37,147 --> 00:12:39,149 quietly put everything back in its place, 281 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,282 and left to meet with Meese. 282 00:12:41,412 --> 00:12:44,024 Meanwhile, North was still at work next door. 283 00:12:44,154 --> 00:12:46,113 [tense music] 284 00:12:46,243 --> 00:12:48,115 [McManus] Oliver North and Fawn Hall tried to destroy 285 00:12:48,245 --> 00:12:50,291 everything they could, 286 00:12:50,421 --> 00:12:52,554 but by the time they knew they had to leave, 287 00:12:52,684 --> 00:12:55,339 they hadn't shredded everything. 288 00:12:55,470 --> 00:12:58,995 So Fawn Hall, North's loyal secretary, 289 00:12:59,126 --> 00:13:02,999 stuffed some documents in her boots 290 00:13:03,130 --> 00:13:05,001 and in the back of her blouse 291 00:13:05,132 --> 00:13:07,351 and turned around and asked North, 292 00:13:07,482 --> 00:13:09,440 "Does this look all right?" 293 00:13:09,571 --> 00:13:11,921 And she marched out of the Old Executive Office Building, 294 00:13:12,052 --> 00:13:13,357 next to the White House, 295 00:13:13,488 --> 00:13:15,185 with documents inside her blouse. 296 00:13:15,316 --> 00:13:18,058 โ™ช 297 00:13:18,188 --> 00:13:20,016 [Cooper] We met at the Old Ebbitt Grill, 298 00:13:20,147 --> 00:13:22,323 in a booth, the four of us-- 299 00:13:22,453 --> 00:13:27,719 Ed Meese, me, Brad Reynolds, and John Richardson, 300 00:13:27,850 --> 00:13:30,331 and we're kind of reporting to Ed 301 00:13:30,461 --> 00:13:33,638 what we had learned. 302 00:13:33,769 --> 00:13:36,990 Brad said, "Ed, I've come across something." 303 00:13:38,121 --> 00:13:41,472 He reported that it said 304 00:13:41,603 --> 00:13:46,216 $12 million from the transfer of arms 305 00:13:46,347 --> 00:13:49,089 to the Iranians would be placed 306 00:13:49,219 --> 00:13:51,482 in an account controlled by the Contras, 307 00:13:51,613 --> 00:13:53,310 or for the benefit of the Contras. 308 00:13:53,441 --> 00:13:56,444 And that, obviously, stunned everybody. 309 00:13:56,574 --> 00:14:00,317 Nobody even remotely suspected anything like that 310 00:14:00,448 --> 00:14:04,191 would be connected with this arms-for-hostages scenario. 311 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:11,589 And Ed, for the only time in my--now, what-- 312 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:14,505 almost 40-year relationship, 313 00:14:14,636 --> 00:14:17,421 heard him use a four-letter word. 314 00:14:17,552 --> 00:14:20,163 And he just looked and he said, "Oh, shit." 315 00:14:20,294 --> 00:14:22,209 [grave music] 316 00:14:22,339 --> 00:14:25,125 [McManus] And that discovery, 317 00:14:25,255 --> 00:14:27,257 of the fact that the diversion had occurred 318 00:14:27,388 --> 00:14:29,607 was what turned 319 00:14:29,738 --> 00:14:34,047 an Iran scandal and a Contra scandal 320 00:14:34,177 --> 00:14:36,049 into the Iran-Contra scandal. 321 00:14:36,179 --> 00:14:37,615 [suspenseful music] 322 00:14:37,746 --> 00:14:39,617 [Cooper] The diversion memo was discovered. 323 00:14:39,748 --> 00:14:43,012 Here was something that everybody was going to agree 324 00:14:43,143 --> 00:14:44,492 was a terrible thing. 325 00:14:44,622 --> 00:14:47,887 The immediate question was-- 326 00:14:48,017 --> 00:14:53,544 what were the implications of that revelation? 327 00:14:53,675 --> 00:14:56,634 That diversion was a misuse of federal funds, 328 00:14:56,765 --> 00:15:00,508 had not been authorized by Congress, 329 00:15:00,638 --> 00:15:04,904 and, at least insofar as those of us at the-- 330 00:15:05,034 --> 00:15:08,603 in the booth at the Old Ebbitt Grill knew, 331 00:15:08,733 --> 00:15:11,693 it had had no authorization by the president. 332 00:15:11,823 --> 00:15:15,566 And so it was a diversion that was completely unauthorized 333 00:15:15,697 --> 00:15:18,439 by any lawful authority. 334 00:15:18,569 --> 00:15:21,311 โ™ช 335 00:15:21,442 --> 00:15:23,096 [Neyfakh] The investigators went to confront North 336 00:15:23,226 --> 00:15:24,488 about the document. 337 00:15:24,619 --> 00:15:26,229 They hoped that he would tell them 338 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:27,622 that the so-called diversion of funds 339 00:15:27,752 --> 00:15:29,667 had just been an idea, 340 00:15:29,798 --> 00:15:31,756 that they could just forget about it and move on. 341 00:15:31,887 --> 00:15:35,543 Instead, North told them that it had really happened. 342 00:15:35,673 --> 00:15:38,720 That meant they would need to tell the president. 343 00:15:38,850 --> 00:15:46,293 โ™ช 344 00:15:46,423 --> 00:15:48,817 [Cooper] Ed made clear to the president his advice, 345 00:15:48,948 --> 00:15:53,387 that these facts, and in particular the diversion, 346 00:15:53,517 --> 00:15:55,911 would need to be disclosed to Congress 347 00:15:56,042 --> 00:16:00,611 and to the American people very soon. 348 00:16:00,742 --> 00:16:03,701 [Kuhn] When Ed Meese briefed Reagan 349 00:16:03,832 --> 00:16:08,358 about the diversion of funds, 350 00:16:08,489 --> 00:16:10,186 Reagan was just absolutely blown away. 351 00:16:10,317 --> 00:16:12,580 He was totally unaware of it. 352 00:16:12,710 --> 00:16:14,582 [Neyfakh] The next morning, 353 00:16:14,712 --> 00:16:17,324 President Reagan agreed to hold a press conference. 354 00:16:17,454 --> 00:16:18,542 Though he didn't fully understand 355 00:16:18,673 --> 00:16:20,588 the scandal just yet, 356 00:16:20,718 --> 00:16:23,243 he knew one thing-- heads would have to roll. 357 00:16:23,373 --> 00:16:24,984 Yesterday, Secretary Meese 358 00:16:25,114 --> 00:16:26,811 provided me and the White House chief of staff 359 00:16:26,942 --> 00:16:30,163 with a report on his preliminary findings. 360 00:16:30,293 --> 00:16:32,382 They found the diversion of funds, 361 00:16:32,513 --> 00:16:36,256 and they decided that they would focus on that issue 362 00:16:36,386 --> 00:16:38,780 because they could reasonably portray it 363 00:16:38,910 --> 00:16:40,738 as something the president did not know about, 364 00:16:40,869 --> 00:16:43,393 and that was known to so few people 365 00:16:43,524 --> 00:16:48,007 that they could just sweep those guys out the front door, 366 00:16:48,137 --> 00:16:52,359 sacrifice them, and make this thing go away. 367 00:16:52,489 --> 00:16:54,448 Vice Admiral John Poindexter 368 00:16:54,578 --> 00:16:56,667 has asked to be relieved of his assignment 369 00:16:56,798 --> 00:16:59,714 as assistant to the president for National Security Affairs 370 00:16:59,844 --> 00:17:02,673 and return to another assignment in the Navy. 371 00:17:02,804 --> 00:17:05,676 Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North has been relieved of his duties 372 00:17:05,807 --> 00:17:08,679 on the National Security Council staff. 373 00:17:08,810 --> 00:17:11,334 So I was in the White House press room. 374 00:17:11,465 --> 00:17:14,294 I'm going to ask Attorney General Meese to brief you 375 00:17:14,424 --> 00:17:17,688 on what we presently know of what he has found out. 376 00:17:17,819 --> 00:17:19,473 [reporter] Is anyone else gonna be let go, sir? 377 00:17:19,603 --> 00:17:22,606 And it was at that point that Ed Meese said... 378 00:17:22,737 --> 00:17:26,393 Certain monies, which were received 379 00:17:26,523 --> 00:17:30,266 in the transaction between representatives of Israel 380 00:17:30,397 --> 00:17:32,921 and representatives of Iran, 381 00:17:33,052 --> 00:17:37,926 were taken and made available 382 00:17:38,057 --> 00:17:41,625 to the forces in Central America 383 00:17:41,756 --> 00:17:43,671 which are opposing 384 00:17:43,801 --> 00:17:45,847 the Sandinista government there. 385 00:17:45,977 --> 00:17:47,849 Our estimate is that it is somewhere 386 00:17:47,979 --> 00:17:50,591 between $10 million and $30 million. 387 00:17:50,721 --> 00:17:52,680 [McManus] And I can remember that moment. 388 00:17:52,810 --> 00:17:56,727 There was a gasp by the reporters in the room. 389 00:17:56,858 --> 00:18:00,340 It was as if time had sort of skipped a moment. 390 00:18:00,470 --> 00:18:02,429 It was a, "Wait, what did he just say?" 391 00:18:02,559 --> 00:18:04,344 โ™ช 392 00:18:04,474 --> 00:18:05,736 [Neyfakh] Ed Meese's press conference 393 00:18:05,867 --> 00:18:08,478 shocked the leaders of Israel and the Contras, 394 00:18:08,609 --> 00:18:11,351 both of whom he had just implicated in the operation. 395 00:18:11,481 --> 00:18:13,440 Immediately, Meese fielded a call 396 00:18:13,570 --> 00:18:15,920 from Israel's prime minister, Shimon Peres, 397 00:18:16,051 --> 00:18:17,748 who stated plainly that he would not 398 00:18:17,879 --> 00:18:21,100 be taking responsibility for the diversion. 399 00:18:21,230 --> 00:18:23,014 In Miami, another denial was coming 400 00:18:23,145 --> 00:18:25,147 from the leaders of the Contras, 401 00:18:25,278 --> 00:18:28,411 who were now being asked to account for $30 million 402 00:18:28,542 --> 00:18:30,587 said to have been funneled into their war. 403 00:18:30,718 --> 00:18:33,764 There has been no secret bank account 404 00:18:33,895 --> 00:18:36,419 and there has been no arrangements by Colonel North 405 00:18:36,550 --> 00:18:37,638 to such effect. 406 00:18:37,768 --> 00:18:39,422 [Neyfakh] And in Nicaragua, 407 00:18:39,553 --> 00:18:41,076 the president of the Sandinista government 408 00:18:41,207 --> 00:18:43,687 now had his suspicions confirmed. 409 00:18:43,818 --> 00:18:45,689 [translator ] It appears clear to us 410 00:18:45,820 --> 00:18:47,082 that this is a scandalous situation 411 00:18:47,213 --> 00:18:49,345 in which President Reagan is involved, 412 00:18:49,476 --> 00:18:51,478 in which he is really sacrificing Poindexter 413 00:18:51,608 --> 00:18:53,044 and that other one to find a way 414 00:18:53,175 --> 00:18:55,656 to save face in this situation. 415 00:18:56,831 --> 00:18:59,660 [Neyfakh] Back in Washington, Congress was in an uproar. 416 00:18:59,790 --> 00:19:01,531 [suspenseful music] 417 00:19:01,662 --> 00:19:03,968 It's gonna be a cold day in Washington, D.C. 418 00:19:04,099 --> 00:19:06,971 before any more money goes into Nicaragua. 419 00:19:07,102 --> 00:19:09,452 This thing has boiled down into the darndest charade 420 00:19:09,583 --> 00:19:10,888 I ever heard of. 421 00:19:11,019 --> 00:19:12,629 Nothing could have happened of this sort 422 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,153 without the president knowing it. 423 00:19:14,283 --> 00:19:15,806 [man] The attorney general said later 424 00:19:15,937 --> 00:19:17,591 former National Security Advisor McFarlane 425 00:19:17,721 --> 00:19:19,419 had also been aware of the scheme. 426 00:19:19,549 --> 00:19:21,595 [Neyfakh] Bud McFarlane called North 427 00:19:21,725 --> 00:19:23,814 to see what had happened with the diversion memo. 428 00:19:23,945 --> 00:19:26,121 North replied, "I missed one." 429 00:19:26,252 --> 00:19:28,602 With the scandal now out in the open, 430 00:19:28,732 --> 00:19:30,386 the former national security advisor 431 00:19:30,517 --> 00:19:31,953 struggled to cope with his role 432 00:19:32,083 --> 00:19:33,955 in the decision-making that had led up to it. 433 00:19:34,085 --> 00:19:36,958 Remorse doesn't quite capture it. 434 00:19:37,088 --> 00:19:38,742 I-- 435 00:19:38,873 --> 00:19:41,876 I'd failed my country and allowed it 436 00:19:42,006 --> 00:19:46,576 to incur an enormous embarrassment internationally. 437 00:19:46,707 --> 00:19:50,189 And I had exercised bad judgment 438 00:19:50,319 --> 00:19:53,975 in allowing it to go as far as it did. 439 00:19:54,105 --> 00:19:56,499 [Neyfakh] Even with North and Poindexter fired, 440 00:19:56,630 --> 00:19:58,414 the administration couldn't save Reagan 441 00:19:58,545 --> 00:20:00,590 from public scrutiny. 442 00:20:00,721 --> 00:20:03,463 His approval ratings, which had been at 67 percent 443 00:20:03,593 --> 00:20:06,553 before the announcement, plummeted immediately. 444 00:20:06,683 --> 00:20:09,469 The public didn't think they were getting the full story. 445 00:20:09,599 --> 00:20:11,471 [woman] 41 percent say they don't think 446 00:20:11,601 --> 00:20:13,473 the president was telling the truth 447 00:20:13,603 --> 00:20:15,431 when he said he was not fully informed. 448 00:20:15,562 --> 00:20:17,477 It's kinda hard to imagine 449 00:20:17,607 --> 00:20:18,782 him not knowing what's going on, 450 00:20:18,913 --> 00:20:20,480 seeing as how he's the president. 451 00:20:20,610 --> 00:20:21,916 It's my opinion-- making it look 452 00:20:22,046 --> 00:20:23,744 like our president is pretty dumb. 453 00:20:23,874 --> 00:20:26,790 If Reagan didn't know about it, he should have. 454 00:20:26,921 --> 00:20:28,096 It seemed to me like that he's dealing 455 00:20:28,227 --> 00:20:29,663 a little bit above the law. 456 00:20:29,793 --> 00:20:30,925 I think he should step down. 457 00:20:31,055 --> 00:20:32,796 I think his credibility is 458 00:20:32,927 --> 00:20:34,929 totally, totally shot at this point. 459 00:20:35,059 --> 00:20:36,409 I really never trusted any of the governments 460 00:20:36,539 --> 00:20:37,714 when they're in power. 461 00:20:37,845 --> 00:20:39,716 Now, it just reaffirms my thoughts. 462 00:20:39,847 --> 00:20:41,457 I feel that I moved to Maui, and I don't have to deal 463 00:20:41,588 --> 00:20:42,545 with all this political stuff. 464 00:20:44,591 --> 00:20:46,636 [Neyfakh] On November 26, 1986, 465 00:20:46,767 --> 00:20:48,029 the day after his bombshell 466 00:20:48,159 --> 00:20:50,292 press conference with Ed Meese, 467 00:20:50,423 --> 00:20:51,989 President Reagan appeared at the White House's 468 00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:55,079 annual Thanksgiving ceremony. 469 00:20:55,210 --> 00:20:57,038 [reporter] Mr. President, what did you know 470 00:20:57,168 --> 00:20:59,301 about money going to the Contras? 471 00:20:59,432 --> 00:21:01,869 All I know is this is just going to taste wonderful, 472 00:21:01,999 --> 00:21:04,741 and I'm looking forward to tomorrow. 473 00:21:04,872 --> 00:21:06,743 [Neyfakh] But a warm smile and a one-liner 474 00:21:06,874 --> 00:21:09,442 weren't going to get Reagan through this. 475 00:21:09,572 --> 00:21:11,095 [tense music] 476 00:21:11,226 --> 00:21:14,098 Three separate investigations were announced. 477 00:21:14,229 --> 00:21:16,100 First, there was the Tower Commission, 478 00:21:16,231 --> 00:21:18,712 a three-person panel focused on finding out 479 00:21:18,842 --> 00:21:20,801 what went wrong in the White House. 480 00:21:20,931 --> 00:21:22,977 Also, a team of prosecutors 481 00:21:23,107 --> 00:21:25,153 in the Office of the Independent Counsel 482 00:21:25,284 --> 00:21:27,677 began a criminal probe. 483 00:21:27,808 --> 00:21:30,593 At the same time, Congress prepared for public hearings. 484 00:21:32,726 --> 00:21:36,077 I'm Pamela Naughton, and I was assistant counsel 485 00:21:36,207 --> 00:21:39,776 to the Select House Committee on Iran-Contra. 486 00:21:39,907 --> 00:21:41,648 When I was growing up, 487 00:21:41,778 --> 00:21:43,693 we watched the Watergate hearings. 488 00:21:43,824 --> 00:21:46,609 Once the administration admitted 489 00:21:46,740 --> 00:21:48,698 that there had been a diversion to the Contras, 490 00:21:48,829 --> 00:21:51,875 I just had a feeling I would be part of it. 491 00:21:52,006 --> 00:21:54,965 We actually worked in the attic of the U.S. Capitol building. 492 00:21:55,096 --> 00:21:57,054 [Neyfakh] The attic allowed Naughton 493 00:21:57,185 --> 00:21:59,535 and the other investigators to set up a temporary SCIF, 494 00:21:59,666 --> 00:22:01,058 a restricted area designed 495 00:22:01,189 --> 00:22:03,017 to keep classified information secret. 496 00:22:03,147 --> 00:22:05,889 [Naughton] The SCIF was like working in a cave. 497 00:22:06,020 --> 00:22:07,587 And I have to confess, once in a while, 498 00:22:07,717 --> 00:22:09,458 we'd sneak up to the roof and sunbathe. 499 00:22:09,589 --> 00:22:11,025 [chuckles] 500 00:22:11,155 --> 00:22:13,723 And now I imagine you can't do that anymore. 501 00:22:13,854 --> 00:22:15,986 [Neyfakh] The committees quickly ran into a roadblock 502 00:22:16,117 --> 00:22:17,901 when key people in the investigation 503 00:22:18,032 --> 00:22:20,034 began pleading the Fifth. 504 00:22:20,164 --> 00:22:22,515 Oliver North and John Poindexter, among others, 505 00:22:22,645 --> 00:22:23,951 refused to cooperate 506 00:22:24,081 --> 00:22:25,953 without being granted immunity, 507 00:22:26,083 --> 00:22:27,781 which would make anything they said 508 00:22:27,911 --> 00:22:29,739 in the congressional investigation off-limits 509 00:22:29,870 --> 00:22:31,741 in the criminal proceedings. 510 00:22:31,872 --> 00:22:34,744 There are about 13 charges 511 00:22:34,875 --> 00:22:37,834 of obstruction of investigation 512 00:22:37,965 --> 00:22:39,923 and false statements. 513 00:22:40,794 --> 00:22:43,797 [Neyfakh] Ultimately, Congress did grant the men immunity 514 00:22:43,927 --> 00:22:45,842 in exchange for their testimony. 515 00:22:45,973 --> 00:22:48,062 The agreement meant they would fully cooperate 516 00:22:48,192 --> 00:22:50,499 and also that they would turn over any documentation 517 00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:52,240 or recordings they had, 518 00:22:52,371 --> 00:22:55,112 including whatever remained of Oliver North's notes. 519 00:22:55,243 --> 00:22:57,898 [Naughton] He was a prodigious note-taker. 520 00:22:58,028 --> 00:23:00,901 When the notebooks arrived, that was a very, very big deal. 521 00:23:01,031 --> 00:23:03,338 And we made copies immediately, 522 00:23:03,469 --> 00:23:05,775 and everybody started reading them. 523 00:23:05,906 --> 00:23:08,169 [Neyfakh] Although the three investigations ran separately, 524 00:23:08,299 --> 00:23:10,780 each one produced reams of evidence 525 00:23:10,911 --> 00:23:12,869 that together pointed to a very different reality 526 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,654 than what the White House 527 00:23:14,784 --> 00:23:16,482 had been selling to the American public. 528 00:23:16,612 --> 00:23:18,832 The big bombshell 529 00:23:18,962 --> 00:23:20,834 that the Tower Commission came up with 530 00:23:20,964 --> 00:23:22,836 was the discovery 531 00:23:22,966 --> 00:23:26,535 of John Poindexter's deleted email files-- 532 00:23:26,666 --> 00:23:28,798 over 5,000 emails deleted. 533 00:23:28,929 --> 00:23:30,670 And you can see the records nowadays 534 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,717 where, you know, let's say, November 25th, 535 00:23:34,848 --> 00:23:39,592 at 1:00 in the morning, he had 5,200 emails. 536 00:23:39,722 --> 00:23:40,984 November 25th, later in the day, 537 00:23:41,115 --> 00:23:43,770 after the press conference, zero emails. 538 00:23:43,900 --> 00:23:45,380 [chuckles] 539 00:23:45,511 --> 00:23:48,165 And that broke the scandal wide open. 540 00:23:48,949 --> 00:23:51,125 [Neyfakh] The messages showed that Oliver North 541 00:23:51,255 --> 00:23:54,084 had communicated with Poindexter at every step. 542 00:23:54,215 --> 00:23:57,914 That brought the whole fiasco one step closer to Reagan. 543 00:23:58,045 --> 00:24:00,134 Because John Poindexter and Oliver North 544 00:24:00,264 --> 00:24:02,136 had pleaded the Fifth, the Tower Commission 545 00:24:02,266 --> 00:24:04,921 wasn't able to meet with them for interviews. 546 00:24:05,052 --> 00:24:07,184 But on several occasions, the commission did meet 547 00:24:07,315 --> 00:24:09,099 with the president himself. 548 00:24:09,230 --> 00:24:11,014 [Byrne] This proved to be a turning point also 549 00:24:11,145 --> 00:24:14,583 because Reagan's story changed over time. 550 00:24:14,714 --> 00:24:16,106 He said, basically, 551 00:24:16,237 --> 00:24:19,675 "I was aware of and I authorized the Israelis 552 00:24:19,806 --> 00:24:23,026 to participate in this-- in these arms deals." 553 00:24:23,157 --> 00:24:26,029 Later on, just a couple weeks later, 554 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,814 he claimed that he didn't know anything 555 00:24:27,944 --> 00:24:29,206 about what had happened. 556 00:24:29,337 --> 00:24:31,600 So, how do you resolve this? 557 00:24:31,731 --> 00:24:33,297 [man] Last month, 558 00:24:33,428 --> 00:24:35,169 the president's statement to the board agreed 559 00:24:35,299 --> 00:24:36,736 with McFarlane's, but after a number of meetings 560 00:24:36,866 --> 00:24:38,302 with Chief of Staff Donald Regan, 561 00:24:38,433 --> 00:24:40,174 the president told the board he was mistaken 562 00:24:40,304 --> 00:24:42,306 and hadn't given approval until much later. 563 00:24:42,437 --> 00:24:45,788 [Kuhn] We knew it was going to scar Reagan, 564 00:24:45,919 --> 00:24:47,616 that he would have this indelible 565 00:24:47,747 --> 00:24:50,880 Iran-Contra scar forever. 566 00:24:51,011 --> 00:24:53,143 It was something that I was very upset about, 567 00:24:53,274 --> 00:24:56,320 knowing that it hurt him, that it set him back. 568 00:24:56,451 --> 00:24:57,931 [Neyfakh] Questions increasingly focused 569 00:24:58,061 --> 00:24:59,976 on whether Reagan knew about North 570 00:25:00,107 --> 00:25:02,109 diverting proceeds from the Iran deal 571 00:25:02,239 --> 00:25:04,198 to the Contras in Nicaragua. 572 00:25:04,328 --> 00:25:07,244 There were people in Congress talking about impeachment 573 00:25:07,375 --> 00:25:11,031 if it had been found that Ronald Reagan's fingerprints 574 00:25:11,161 --> 00:25:13,990 were on that flagrantly illegal deal. 575 00:25:14,121 --> 00:25:16,340 He's caught between that dilemma 576 00:25:16,471 --> 00:25:19,213 of either being accused of having known 577 00:25:19,343 --> 00:25:20,997 or being accused of having not known. 578 00:25:21,128 --> 00:25:24,958 Whichever it was is bound to lead to some criticism. 579 00:25:26,002 --> 00:25:29,049 [Neyfakh] Bud McFarlane struggled with the accusations. 580 00:25:29,179 --> 00:25:31,138 [Teicher] McFarlane was under intense pressure 581 00:25:31,268 --> 00:25:34,533 as the scandal unfolded. 582 00:25:34,663 --> 00:25:38,232 He was a lifelong servant of the government, 583 00:25:38,362 --> 00:25:41,714 in the military, the Congress, and the executive branch, 584 00:25:41,844 --> 00:25:43,280 suddenly being vilified 585 00:25:43,411 --> 00:25:46,806 as someone who might bring down the president. 586 00:25:46,936 --> 00:25:49,896 This was how everything was cast. 587 00:25:50,026 --> 00:25:51,985 What we had done 588 00:25:52,115 --> 00:25:55,162 could cost Ronald Reagan his presidency. 589 00:25:55,292 --> 00:25:56,772 โ™ช 590 00:25:56,903 --> 00:26:00,210 I reached the conclusion 591 00:26:00,341 --> 00:26:04,214 that, at least, if you can't turn things around, 592 00:26:04,345 --> 00:26:09,002 maybe you can atone for what's happened here 593 00:26:09,132 --> 00:26:11,744 by acknowledging your own role in it 594 00:26:11,874 --> 00:26:13,223 and your failure in it. 595 00:26:13,354 --> 00:26:15,051 [Neyfakh] Before he was to meet 596 00:26:15,182 --> 00:26:17,227 with the Tower Commission for his third interview, 597 00:26:17,358 --> 00:26:19,969 McFarlane grew increasingly desperate. 598 00:26:21,188 --> 00:26:24,191 He drafted letters to his wife, to his lawyer, 599 00:26:24,321 --> 00:26:25,845 and to members of the House 600 00:26:25,975 --> 00:26:28,108 and Senate Intelligence Committees. 601 00:26:28,238 --> 00:26:30,850 Then he swallowed at least 20 pills of Valium. 602 00:26:30,980 --> 00:26:32,112 One of the most important figures 603 00:26:32,242 --> 00:26:33,896 in the Iran-Contra affair, 604 00:26:34,027 --> 00:26:35,985 Robert McFarlane, is in a hospital tonight. 605 00:26:36,116 --> 00:26:37,813 The former national security advisor 606 00:26:37,944 --> 00:26:39,510 apparently took an overdose of Valium, 607 00:26:39,641 --> 00:26:42,905 a tranquilizer often prescribed to ease stress and anxiety. 608 00:26:43,036 --> 00:26:45,125 [McFarlane] It was foolish, looking back, 609 00:26:45,255 --> 00:26:48,215 but it's just more a comment 610 00:26:48,345 --> 00:26:51,479 on how deep the depression had become. 611 00:26:51,610 --> 00:26:55,048 And I won't develop for you the nature of depression 612 00:26:55,178 --> 00:26:57,180 and how it develops and how it can worsen 613 00:26:57,311 --> 00:26:59,922 and lead to a cycle of decline. 614 00:27:00,053 --> 00:27:03,056 And yet, that was what was happening. 615 00:27:03,186 --> 00:27:06,929 It was very, very, very hard for him. 616 00:27:07,060 --> 00:27:10,933 And as some people say, there are some people 617 00:27:11,064 --> 00:27:14,937 who bend under pressure and some who break. 618 00:27:15,068 --> 00:27:18,245 And at a certain point, Bud broke, 619 00:27:18,375 --> 00:27:20,769 and it led him to try to commit suicide. 620 00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:22,989 And I understand that. 621 00:27:24,164 --> 00:27:26,383 [McFarlane] Those who were involved, sure, 622 00:27:26,514 --> 00:27:29,038 they all bear a measure of responsibility. 623 00:27:29,169 --> 00:27:30,300 But they weren't decision-makers. 624 00:27:30,431 --> 00:27:33,042 I was, effectively. 625 00:27:34,217 --> 00:27:36,916 Everything that got done in that administration 626 00:27:37,046 --> 00:27:38,308 on national security affairs, 627 00:27:38,439 --> 00:27:41,007 it did so because I had approved it, 628 00:27:41,137 --> 00:27:43,009 I had recommended it, 629 00:27:43,139 --> 00:27:46,273 and the president had approved what I had urged. 630 00:27:46,403 --> 00:27:49,972 I could only atone from here on out 631 00:27:50,103 --> 00:27:51,931 by being honest and telling the truth 632 00:27:52,061 --> 00:27:54,194 and not taking the Fifth. 633 00:27:54,324 --> 00:27:55,935 [suspenseful music] 634 00:27:56,065 --> 00:27:58,459 [Neyfakh] On February 28, 1987, 635 00:27:58,589 --> 00:28:01,462 Reagan's long-time speechwriter, Landon Parvin, 636 00:28:01,592 --> 00:28:03,377 drove through the back gates of the White House 637 00:28:03,507 --> 00:28:05,118 towards the East Wing. 638 00:28:05,248 --> 00:28:06,859 In his briefcase, he had secreted 639 00:28:06,989 --> 00:28:08,469 a thickly bound packet, 640 00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:10,384 covered with his own underlines and notes 641 00:28:10,514 --> 00:28:13,169 from interviews he had done with Reagan's staff. 642 00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:14,910 My name is Landon Parvin, 643 00:28:15,041 --> 00:28:17,304 and I was a Reagan speechwriter. 644 00:28:17,434 --> 00:28:19,219 [Neyfakh] Parvin had the reputation of someone 645 00:28:19,349 --> 00:28:22,178 who could write a politician out of any tough bind. 646 00:28:22,309 --> 00:28:25,094 Iran-Contra was a job for Landon Parvin. 647 00:28:25,225 --> 00:28:27,096 I definitely felt it was a crisis. 648 00:28:27,227 --> 00:28:28,968 You could feel it on the news. 649 00:28:29,098 --> 00:28:30,360 You could feel it in the building. 650 00:28:30,491 --> 00:28:33,363 I felt it-- the people I talked to. 651 00:28:34,277 --> 00:28:36,062 [Neyfakh] The Tower Report, as it came to be called, 652 00:28:36,192 --> 00:28:37,150 had just been released. 653 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,326 Please be seated. 654 00:28:39,456 --> 00:28:40,980 Yes, the president made mistakes. 655 00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:43,156 I think that's very plain English. 656 00:28:43,286 --> 00:28:45,375 The president did make mistakes. 657 00:28:45,506 --> 00:28:47,247 [Neyfakh] Nancy Reagan had set up a secret meeting 658 00:28:47,377 --> 00:28:49,031 in the White House residence 659 00:28:49,162 --> 00:28:51,425 to craft her husband's public response. 660 00:28:52,469 --> 00:28:57,039 Going into that Friday meeting, he looked upset. 661 00:28:57,170 --> 00:28:59,215 He looked shaken. 662 00:28:59,346 --> 00:29:03,132 You know, he usually had an ebullience about him, 663 00:29:03,263 --> 00:29:05,918 but I didn't detect that. 664 00:29:06,048 --> 00:29:07,441 He was dressed very casually. 665 00:29:07,571 --> 00:29:11,358 He was in a--he was in a running suit, I think. 666 00:29:11,488 --> 00:29:14,535 The casualness of his dress 667 00:29:14,665 --> 00:29:18,147 belied, I think, how seriously he was taking it. 668 00:29:19,496 --> 00:29:22,369 John Tower was very direct, 669 00:29:22,499 --> 00:29:27,069 and the big question 670 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,986 was whether the president could admit 671 00:29:31,117 --> 00:29:34,207 he traded arms for hostages. 672 00:29:34,337 --> 00:29:38,341 Everyone said he had-- he had to. 673 00:29:38,472 --> 00:29:40,561 I mean, there was talk of impeachment. 674 00:29:40,691 --> 00:29:46,436 So this was not something that could be dismissed. 675 00:29:46,567 --> 00:29:48,438 It had to be addressed. 676 00:29:48,569 --> 00:29:51,050 [Neyfakh] In 300 sobering pages, 677 00:29:51,180 --> 00:29:53,008 the Tower Report sharply criticized 678 00:29:53,139 --> 00:29:55,054 the Reagan administration. 679 00:29:55,184 --> 00:29:56,446 The president's aides were accused 680 00:29:56,577 --> 00:29:58,535 of hiding information from Congress 681 00:29:58,666 --> 00:30:00,494 and failing to adequately convey 682 00:30:00,624 --> 00:30:03,453 to the president the risks of what they were doing. 683 00:30:03,584 --> 00:30:05,368 The report saved its harshest critique 684 00:30:05,499 --> 00:30:07,457 for President Reagan himself, 685 00:30:07,588 --> 00:30:10,983 saying that, as a leader, he had been out to lunch. 686 00:30:11,113 --> 00:30:12,288 Everyone at the meeting agreed 687 00:30:12,419 --> 00:30:13,986 that he would now need to come out 688 00:30:14,116 --> 00:30:15,814 and admit to the arms deals. 689 00:30:15,944 --> 00:30:19,121 Everyone, that is, except for Ronald Reagan. 690 00:30:19,252 --> 00:30:21,167 [Parvin] I go home, and I start writing. 691 00:30:21,297 --> 00:30:23,169 What I was most worried about 692 00:30:23,299 --> 00:30:26,825 was how the president would react 693 00:30:26,955 --> 00:30:29,958 to admitting he traded arms for hostages. 694 00:30:30,089 --> 00:30:34,093 And I had been in a dilemma 695 00:30:34,223 --> 00:30:38,227 how to say it so he would accept it. 696 00:30:38,358 --> 00:30:42,144 I figured out the psychology of how to get him 697 00:30:42,275 --> 00:30:45,408 to accept something he didn't want to accept. 698 00:30:45,539 --> 00:30:47,497 A few months ago, I told the American people 699 00:30:47,628 --> 00:30:50,587 I did not trade arms for hostages. 700 00:30:50,718 --> 00:30:54,330 My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true. 701 00:30:54,461 --> 00:30:58,073 But the facts and the evidence tell me it is not. 702 00:30:58,204 --> 00:31:00,075 [Parvin] We had a window there, 703 00:31:00,206 --> 00:31:03,165 while he was shaken up by it, 704 00:31:03,296 --> 00:31:07,256 that he could say what needed to be said. 705 00:31:08,649 --> 00:31:11,043 That window soon closed. 706 00:31:11,173 --> 00:31:12,479 [dramatic music] 707 00:31:12,609 --> 00:31:14,133 [Neyfakh] In the coming months, 708 00:31:14,263 --> 00:31:16,222 practically everyone on Reagan's team 709 00:31:16,352 --> 00:31:18,877 would lay out their version of events under oath. 710 00:31:19,007 --> 00:31:20,530 It would be up to the public to decipher 711 00:31:20,661 --> 00:31:22,706 if what they were saying was true. 712 00:31:22,837 --> 00:31:25,405 Good evening. Throughout the Iran-Contra affair, 713 00:31:25,535 --> 00:31:27,363 a central question has been-- 714 00:31:27,494 --> 00:31:29,670 what did President Reagan know and when did he know it? 715 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,542 [man] 29 remotely controlled still cameras 716 00:31:32,673 --> 00:31:34,414 will record the scene 717 00:31:34,544 --> 00:31:37,243 as will every television network in America. 718 00:31:37,373 --> 00:31:40,289 [Neyfakh] In May of 1987, the world tuned in to watch 719 00:31:40,420 --> 00:31:43,249 the joint House and Senate hearings. 720 00:31:43,379 --> 00:31:44,380 By now, interest in the scandal 721 00:31:44,511 --> 00:31:46,121 was at a fever pitch. 722 00:31:46,252 --> 00:31:47,601 [man] The line to get 723 00:31:47,731 --> 00:31:49,255 into the Senate Russell Building Caucus Room 724 00:31:49,385 --> 00:31:51,431 was early and long. 725 00:31:51,561 --> 00:31:54,173 This is an historic moment. It's like Watergate. 726 00:31:54,303 --> 00:31:56,262 [Naughton] The Senate hearings were 727 00:31:56,392 --> 00:31:57,480 in the big Caucus Room. 728 00:31:57,611 --> 00:31:59,787 People will recognize it 729 00:31:59,918 --> 00:32:03,051 because it has the big high-back chairs in the back. 730 00:32:03,182 --> 00:32:04,444 Very ornate. 731 00:32:04,574 --> 00:32:07,403 It was a spectacle. 732 00:32:07,534 --> 00:32:09,579 [man] The joint hearings of the House Select Committee 733 00:32:09,710 --> 00:32:11,668 to investigate covert arms transactions 734 00:32:11,799 --> 00:32:14,541 with Iran will come to order. 735 00:32:14,671 --> 00:32:16,369 [Naughton] Normally, in a courtroom, 736 00:32:16,499 --> 00:32:19,241 you're within ten feet of the witness box. 737 00:32:19,372 --> 00:32:21,504 You can have a dialogue with the witness, 738 00:32:21,635 --> 00:32:24,246 and it's unobstructed. 739 00:32:24,377 --> 00:32:26,727 When you're in Congress, you're up on this dais, 740 00:32:26,857 --> 00:32:29,251 the witness is down in the well, 741 00:32:29,382 --> 00:32:31,645 and there's 50 photographers between you, 742 00:32:31,775 --> 00:32:34,822 and they're constantly snapping like little birds. 743 00:32:34,953 --> 00:32:36,606 [camera shutters snapping] 744 00:32:36,737 --> 00:32:39,435 They're crawling around and walking around, 745 00:32:39,566 --> 00:32:42,482 and people are going in and out of the hearing room. 746 00:32:42,612 --> 00:32:45,485 We had demonstrators. We had people holding signs. 747 00:32:45,615 --> 00:32:47,574 [man] Why don't you ask him about how many noncombatants 748 00:32:47,704 --> 00:32:50,316 have been killed by this putrid--? 749 00:32:50,446 --> 00:32:52,448 It's an almost impossible forum 750 00:32:52,579 --> 00:32:54,537 in which to find the facts. 751 00:32:54,668 --> 00:32:57,279 Mr. Secord, will you please rise? 752 00:32:57,410 --> 00:32:59,238 [Neyfakh] First to testify was Richard Secord. 753 00:32:59,368 --> 00:33:01,370 Remember him? 754 00:33:01,501 --> 00:33:03,633 He had managed the logistics of the Iran arms sales 755 00:33:03,764 --> 00:33:05,505 and the resupply operation to the Contras. 756 00:33:05,635 --> 00:33:07,289 Do you swear to tell the truth, 757 00:33:07,420 --> 00:33:08,856 the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, 758 00:33:08,987 --> 00:33:10,771 - so help you God? - I do. 759 00:33:10,901 --> 00:33:12,555 [Neyfakh] Secord agreed to testify without immunity, 760 00:33:12,686 --> 00:33:14,731 which meant that anything he said 761 00:33:14,862 --> 00:33:16,646 could be used against him in the criminal investigation. 762 00:33:16,777 --> 00:33:19,345 [Secord] My lawyer thought I was insane 763 00:33:19,475 --> 00:33:21,651 for insisting on doing that. 764 00:33:22,391 --> 00:33:26,004 Am I correct, Mr. Secord, that you were engaged 765 00:33:26,134 --> 00:33:29,137 in selling arms to the Contras for profit? 766 00:33:30,225 --> 00:33:31,835 That's correct. 767 00:33:31,966 --> 00:33:33,533 [Secord] My position was 768 00:33:33,663 --> 00:33:36,362 if we allow the others to go first, 769 00:33:36,492 --> 00:33:39,626 after they grant immunity, the storyline will be set, 770 00:33:39,756 --> 00:33:42,411 and we'll never recover from it. 771 00:33:42,542 --> 00:33:44,805 Did you testify yesterday 772 00:33:44,935 --> 00:33:47,764 that you directed your secretary to shred documents? 773 00:33:47,895 --> 00:33:49,592 Didn't you tell us also you had wanted 774 00:33:49,723 --> 00:33:51,203 to talk to the president of the United States? 775 00:33:51,333 --> 00:33:52,291 Was it ever contemplated 776 00:33:52,421 --> 00:33:54,467 that you would obtain profits 777 00:33:54,597 --> 00:33:56,643 or any other kind of remuneration 778 00:33:56,773 --> 00:33:58,297 in connection with the Iranian initiative? 779 00:33:58,427 --> 00:33:59,689 No. None. 780 00:33:59,820 --> 00:34:01,430 I have no idea, sir. I don't remember. 781 00:34:01,561 --> 00:34:02,823 There are some deeply troubling aspects 782 00:34:02,953 --> 00:34:04,868 to your testimony, and I guess that's the point 783 00:34:04,999 --> 00:34:07,436 of the hard questions that have been posed. 784 00:34:07,567 --> 00:34:10,787 A couple of the attorneys harassed me 785 00:34:10,918 --> 00:34:13,442 until I thought I couldn't stand it. 786 00:34:13,573 --> 00:34:16,880 But I'm glad we did it that way. 787 00:34:17,011 --> 00:34:19,318 We got a special prosecutor over here across the street 788 00:34:19,448 --> 00:34:21,015 that's trying to throw all of us in jail 789 00:34:21,146 --> 00:34:23,365 for performing our duty as we saw it. 790 00:34:23,496 --> 00:34:25,454 I haven't focused on some technical issue 791 00:34:25,585 --> 00:34:27,369 like you're bringing up here. This is crazy. 792 00:34:29,806 --> 00:34:32,505 [Neyfakh] Secord's defiant, unapologetic testimony 793 00:34:32,635 --> 00:34:34,724 set the tone for what was to come-- 794 00:34:34,855 --> 00:34:39,120 testy exchanges with counsel and bombshell revelations. 795 00:34:39,251 --> 00:34:42,210 The following week, Bud McFarlane took the stand. 796 00:34:42,341 --> 00:34:43,907 - I do. - Thank you. 797 00:34:44,038 --> 00:34:46,345 [Neyfakh] And he too spoke without immunity. 798 00:34:46,475 --> 00:34:49,348 To have done nothing, while safe, 799 00:34:49,478 --> 00:34:50,958 would have been irresponsible. 800 00:34:51,089 --> 00:34:52,873 That there are many other issues that are of great-- 801 00:34:53,003 --> 00:34:54,701 - Senate House Committee-- - Democracy. 802 00:34:54,831 --> 00:34:55,658 More than the legal argument-- 803 00:34:55,789 --> 00:34:57,356 Their policies with-- 804 00:34:57,486 --> 00:34:58,531 Is this the first you ever heard 805 00:34:58,661 --> 00:35:01,708 of a November 1985 Hawk shipment? 806 00:35:01,838 --> 00:35:04,667 I do believe it was. 807 00:35:04,798 --> 00:35:07,322 [Naughton] I was the lead interrogator 808 00:35:07,453 --> 00:35:09,716 at the hearings for Chuck Cooper. 809 00:35:09,846 --> 00:35:12,371 I had to prepare the testimony, 810 00:35:12,501 --> 00:35:14,764 and in order that I could concentrate, 811 00:35:14,895 --> 00:35:16,723 the chairman of the Judiciary Committee 812 00:35:16,853 --> 00:35:19,856 let me use his private office. 813 00:35:19,987 --> 00:35:22,946 I wanted to do a good job, and he's trying to buck me up, 814 00:35:23,077 --> 00:35:25,732 and he says, "You know, I just wanna tell you," 815 00:35:25,862 --> 00:35:28,604 he says, "You're gonna be the first woman lawyer ever 816 00:35:28,735 --> 00:35:30,693 "to ask a question 817 00:35:30,824 --> 00:35:34,132 "at any congressional-- major congressional hearing. 818 00:35:35,698 --> 00:35:38,745 Think about that. I know you can do it." 819 00:35:38,875 --> 00:35:40,268 Well, that wasn't exactly helping. 820 00:35:40,399 --> 00:35:41,530 [laughing] 821 00:35:41,661 --> 00:35:43,358 Our first witness this morning 822 00:35:43,489 --> 00:35:45,752 will be Mr. Charles Cooper. 823 00:35:45,882 --> 00:35:48,537 [Naughton] When we got to the testimony 824 00:35:48,668 --> 00:35:51,888 and Chairman Inouye called on me to start the questioning, 825 00:35:52,019 --> 00:35:54,500 he referred to me as Mr. Naughton. 826 00:35:54,630 --> 00:35:56,545 [Inouye] Mr. Naughton? 827 00:35:56,676 --> 00:35:58,852 Oh, Ms. Naughton. I'm sorry. 828 00:35:58,982 --> 00:36:01,376 I almost wanted to say, "Thank you, Ms. Chairman," 829 00:36:01,507 --> 00:36:03,465 but I decided not to do that. 830 00:36:03,596 --> 00:36:05,772 - Good morning, Mr. Cooper. - Good morning. 831 00:36:05,902 --> 00:36:10,559 Mr. Cooper, did you have any knowledge of U.S. sales 832 00:36:10,690 --> 00:36:15,564 of military equipment to Iran prior to November 1986? 833 00:36:15,695 --> 00:36:17,479 I did not. 834 00:36:17,610 --> 00:36:19,612 In a congressional investigation, 835 00:36:19,742 --> 00:36:22,223 there are essentially no rules. 836 00:36:22,354 --> 00:36:24,834 There's no judge who's gonna discipline the witness 837 00:36:24,965 --> 00:36:28,403 and/or his lawyer because nobody hit the gavel 838 00:36:28,534 --> 00:36:30,057 and said that you're out of order. 839 00:36:30,188 --> 00:36:32,364 Once you ask your question, 840 00:36:32,494 --> 00:36:34,975 they can go talk about the moon 841 00:36:35,105 --> 00:36:37,630 or the sun and the stars, and you have no control. 842 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,546 Did anyone else in the room during that meeting 843 00:36:40,676 --> 00:36:44,680 mention CIA involvement in the 1985 Hawk shipment? 844 00:36:44,811 --> 00:36:47,553 Uh, I am drawing a blank from my memory. 845 00:36:47,683 --> 00:36:51,383 If I could consult the notes I took at that meeting-- 846 00:36:51,513 --> 00:36:53,428 It's very frustrating. 847 00:36:53,559 --> 00:36:55,082 Thank you very much, Mr. Cooper. 848 00:36:55,213 --> 00:36:58,825 Mr. Chairman, that ends my examination of the witness. 849 00:36:58,955 --> 00:37:02,829 The hearing will please come to order. 850 00:37:02,959 --> 00:37:05,527 [Neyfakh] While the hearings dominated the airwaves, 851 00:37:05,658 --> 00:37:08,051 the president himself ignored the coverage. 852 00:37:08,182 --> 00:37:11,490 We were in Italy in 1987 853 00:37:11,620 --> 00:37:14,928 for the economic summit, the G7. 854 00:37:15,058 --> 00:37:17,496 We had a break, and we went back to our hotel, 855 00:37:17,626 --> 00:37:18,845 said, "Hey, we've got some time. 856 00:37:18,975 --> 00:37:20,673 You want to put the hearings on?" 857 00:37:20,803 --> 00:37:22,762 He said, "Sure. Let's see what's going on." 858 00:37:22,892 --> 00:37:24,590 He was probably everybody's-- 859 00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:26,809 every secretary's dream of a boss. 860 00:37:26,940 --> 00:37:28,855 [Kuhn] Fawn Hall was testifying, 861 00:37:28,985 --> 00:37:31,858 and Reagan's looking at her, and I'm looking at her. 862 00:37:31,988 --> 00:37:33,903 And Reagan said to me-- he looked at me and he said, 863 00:37:34,034 --> 00:37:36,732 "Jim," he said, "So that's who Fawn Hall is." 864 00:37:36,863 --> 00:37:38,734 And I said, "Yeah." 865 00:37:38,865 --> 00:37:40,693 I said, "I wouldn't have known her either." 866 00:37:40,823 --> 00:37:43,043 It's the eve of the Oliver North testimony, 867 00:37:43,173 --> 00:37:45,088 and there is great anticipation, 868 00:37:45,219 --> 00:37:48,048 but no advance word on what he will say. 869 00:37:48,178 --> 00:37:49,615 [man] North's four days of testimony 870 00:37:49,745 --> 00:37:51,573 should be a climactic moment, 871 00:37:51,704 --> 00:37:53,009 when the committee begins getting answers 872 00:37:53,140 --> 00:37:54,707 to some of the key questions. 873 00:37:54,837 --> 00:37:56,665 North's long-awaited public testimony 874 00:37:56,796 --> 00:37:58,276 begins tomorrow morning. 875 00:37:58,406 --> 00:38:00,843 [Inouye] The hearing will please come to order. 876 00:38:00,974 --> 00:38:03,716 [Neyfakh] Once Oliver North was granted criminal immunity, 877 00:38:03,846 --> 00:38:06,022 he finally appeared before the committee. 878 00:38:06,153 --> 00:38:08,111 The world was eager to hear 879 00:38:08,242 --> 00:38:10,897 whether he had received approval from the president, 880 00:38:11,027 --> 00:38:13,595 whether he had personally profited from the deals, 881 00:38:13,726 --> 00:38:16,511 and how he had carried out the cover-up. 882 00:38:16,642 --> 00:38:18,296 Colonel North, please rise. 883 00:38:18,426 --> 00:38:21,603 Oliver North took hold of that proceeding 884 00:38:21,734 --> 00:38:23,779 and made it his own. 885 00:38:23,910 --> 00:38:26,565 He came dressed in his full uniform 886 00:38:26,695 --> 00:38:27,870 with his medals. 887 00:38:28,001 --> 00:38:30,743 [Inouye] Do you solemnly swear... 888 00:38:30,873 --> 00:38:33,789 He just looked like this red-blooded American hero. 889 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,749 - I do. - Please be seated. 890 00:38:36,879 --> 00:38:39,012 [McManus] Usually, congressional investigators 891 00:38:39,142 --> 00:38:41,884 expect a witness before them 892 00:38:42,015 --> 00:38:45,975 to be contrite or perhaps evasive. 893 00:38:46,106 --> 00:38:49,501 But Ollie North turned the tables on them 894 00:38:49,631 --> 00:38:51,764 by going on the offense. 895 00:38:51,894 --> 00:38:54,636 I believe that this is a strange process 896 00:38:54,767 --> 00:38:55,985 that you are putting me and others through. 897 00:38:56,116 --> 00:38:57,987 Thousands of hours of testimony. 898 00:38:58,118 --> 00:38:59,511 You make the rulings as to what is proper 899 00:38:59,641 --> 00:39:00,990 and what is not proper. 900 00:39:01,121 --> 00:39:02,949 From where I sit, it is not the fairest process. 901 00:39:03,079 --> 00:39:05,125 Plain and simple, the Congress is to blame 902 00:39:05,255 --> 00:39:07,780 because of the fickle, vacillating, 903 00:39:07,910 --> 00:39:11,087 unpredictable, on-again-off-again policy 904 00:39:11,218 --> 00:39:13,568 toward the Nicaraguan Democratic Resistance. 905 00:39:13,699 --> 00:39:15,091 [McManus] And the poor members 906 00:39:15,222 --> 00:39:17,659 of the congressional committee 907 00:39:17,790 --> 00:39:20,880 didn't quite know what they were up against. 908 00:39:21,010 --> 00:39:23,491 - Lieutenant-- - First of all, 909 00:39:23,622 --> 00:39:25,014 I'm a Lieutenant Colonel. 910 00:39:25,145 --> 00:39:26,581 I have been a Lieutenant Colonel 911 00:39:26,712 --> 00:39:29,236 for a couple of years now. 912 00:39:29,367 --> 00:39:32,587 The government of the United States gave me a shredder. 913 00:39:32,718 --> 00:39:33,936 I mean, I didn't buy it myself. 914 00:39:34,067 --> 00:39:35,808 I did not discuss this 915 00:39:35,938 --> 00:39:37,766 with the attorney general until January. 916 00:39:37,897 --> 00:39:39,768 It wasn't some secret Ollie North 917 00:39:39,899 --> 00:39:41,683 in the middle of the night, flying off on his own hook. 918 00:39:41,814 --> 00:39:43,119 Ollie North didn't do that. 919 00:39:43,250 --> 00:39:44,904 You're misunderstanding what I said. 920 00:39:45,034 --> 00:39:46,035 [Neyfakh] With the Vietnam War 921 00:39:46,166 --> 00:39:48,037 still a recent memory, 922 00:39:48,168 --> 00:39:50,039 the former marine facing a majority 923 00:39:50,170 --> 00:39:52,825 Democrat congress reignited old tensions. 924 00:39:52,955 --> 00:39:55,828 Would that have made a difference? 925 00:39:55,958 --> 00:39:57,960 You're the person who surfaced it. 926 00:39:58,091 --> 00:39:59,962 Don't get angry, counsel. 927 00:40:00,093 --> 00:40:01,703 I'm gonna answer your question. 928 00:40:01,834 --> 00:40:02,878 [Byrne] That came off even better 929 00:40:03,009 --> 00:40:04,706 when you put him across 930 00:40:04,837 --> 00:40:06,360 from the House lead counsel, John Nields, 931 00:40:06,491 --> 00:40:08,014 who was this kind of hippy-looking guy, 932 00:40:08,144 --> 00:40:10,625 with hair down to his shoulders. 933 00:40:10,756 --> 00:40:11,887 This is the culture wars, 934 00:40:12,018 --> 00:40:13,889 you know, embodied in these two people. 935 00:40:14,020 --> 00:40:16,196 - Where are these memoranda? - Which memoranda? 936 00:40:16,326 --> 00:40:17,937 [Nields] The memoranda that you sent up 937 00:40:18,067 --> 00:40:20,069 seeking the president's approval. 938 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,681 I think I shredded most of that. 939 00:40:22,811 --> 00:40:24,944 โ™ช 940 00:40:25,074 --> 00:40:26,685 Did I--did I get them all? 941 00:40:26,815 --> 00:40:29,035 [McManus] He was guilty as sin. 942 00:40:29,165 --> 00:40:31,037 They had him dead to rights. 943 00:40:31,167 --> 00:40:33,735 But by the time he testified, 944 00:40:33,866 --> 00:40:34,954 much of that didn't seem to matter 945 00:40:35,084 --> 00:40:36,608 for a large part of the country 946 00:40:36,738 --> 00:40:39,088 because Ollie North was such 947 00:40:39,219 --> 00:40:42,440 a terrifically effective communicator at saying, 948 00:40:42,570 --> 00:40:46,444 in effect, "I did it all for love of country, 949 00:40:47,793 --> 00:40:50,186 "to protect American lives, 950 00:40:50,317 --> 00:40:52,624 and I would do it all again." 951 00:40:52,754 --> 00:40:53,886 [dramatic music] 952 00:40:54,016 --> 00:40:55,888 I saw that idea 953 00:40:56,018 --> 00:40:59,108 of using the Ayatollah Khomeini's money 954 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,764 to support the Nicaraguan freedom fighters 955 00:41:02,895 --> 00:41:04,723 as a good one. 956 00:41:04,853 --> 00:41:06,768 I still do. 957 00:41:06,899 --> 00:41:08,117 [Neyfakh] North seemed to inspire 958 00:41:08,248 --> 00:41:09,945 a kind of fever dream on the right... 959 00:41:10,076 --> 00:41:11,207 [all] Ollie! Ollie! Ollie! 960 00:41:11,338 --> 00:41:13,035 [Neyfakh] Setting off a craze 961 00:41:13,166 --> 00:41:15,081 that came to be known as "Olliemania." 962 00:41:15,211 --> 00:41:17,126 [Brokaw] The appeal of Oliver North, the man, 963 00:41:17,257 --> 00:41:18,954 swept the country as the week went along. 964 00:41:19,085 --> 00:41:20,260 [man 2] North has dominated the front page 965 00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:22,392 of the Denver Post all week. 966 00:41:22,523 --> 00:41:24,307 [woman 1] He's definitely winning the hearts of America. 967 00:41:24,438 --> 00:41:27,093 [woman 2] He doesn't seem like a crazed patriot, 968 00:41:27,223 --> 00:41:28,790 which I think is what I expected. 969 00:41:28,921 --> 00:41:30,270 Seemed like an all-American boy. 970 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,751 They feel Ollie North is a hero. 971 00:41:32,881 --> 00:41:34,143 [Neyfakh] But North's testimony 972 00:41:34,274 --> 00:41:36,885 was not the final word on the scandal. 973 00:41:37,016 --> 00:41:39,671 [man] The joint hearings of the House and Senate committees 974 00:41:39,801 --> 00:41:41,934 will come to order. 975 00:41:42,064 --> 00:41:43,849 [Neyfakh] And although Reagan reportedly did not tune in 976 00:41:43,979 --> 00:41:45,894 to much of the hearings, 977 00:41:46,025 --> 00:41:48,941 there was one witness he was eager to hear from. 978 00:41:49,071 --> 00:41:51,378 Admiral Poindexter, would you stand to take the oath, please? 979 00:41:51,509 --> 00:41:52,945 [Neyfakh] That of his national security adviser, 980 00:41:53,075 --> 00:41:54,816 John Poindexter, 981 00:41:54,947 --> 00:41:57,036 who had overseen much of North's activity. 982 00:41:57,166 --> 00:41:59,038 [Kuhn] We were on Air Force One. 983 00:41:59,168 --> 00:42:01,214 Reagan and I were just talking about the day. 984 00:42:01,344 --> 00:42:04,043 And he took his hand, and he crossed his fingers, 985 00:42:04,173 --> 00:42:06,828 and he said, "This is the day 986 00:42:06,959 --> 00:42:11,703 "that John Poindexter will clear me once and for all. 987 00:42:11,833 --> 00:42:13,879 "He will tell Congress, 988 00:42:14,009 --> 00:42:15,968 "and at the same time will be telling the world, 989 00:42:16,098 --> 00:42:20,973 that I did not know about the diversion of funds." 990 00:42:21,103 --> 00:42:23,192 I made a very deliberate decision 991 00:42:23,323 --> 00:42:26,152 not to ask the president 992 00:42:26,282 --> 00:42:29,764 so that I could insulate him from the decision. 993 00:42:29,895 --> 00:42:32,027 You know, the buck stops here with me. 994 00:42:32,158 --> 00:42:34,029 I made the decision. 995 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,162 I felt that I had the authority to do it. 996 00:42:36,292 --> 00:42:38,294 I thought it was a good idea. 997 00:42:38,425 --> 00:42:41,994 But I did not want him to be associated with the decision. 998 00:42:42,951 --> 00:42:45,084 [Neyfakh] Once Poindexter told the world 999 00:42:45,214 --> 00:42:47,347 that Reagan had not known about the diversion, 1000 00:42:47,477 --> 00:42:51,090 the air kind of left the Iran-Contra scandal. 1001 00:42:51,220 --> 00:42:53,222 Nevertheless, towards the end of the year, 1002 00:42:53,353 --> 00:42:55,007 the congressional committees delivered 1003 00:42:55,137 --> 00:42:57,836 their final report on the affair. 1004 00:42:57,966 --> 00:42:59,881 In it, they identified malfeasance 1005 00:43:00,012 --> 00:43:03,058 from within the administration's top ranks. 1006 00:43:03,189 --> 00:43:05,974 The common ingredients in the Iran-Contra affair 1007 00:43:06,105 --> 00:43:10,979 were secrecy, deception, and a disdain for law. 1008 00:43:11,110 --> 00:43:13,242 [Neyfakh] But there was only so much responsibility 1009 00:43:13,373 --> 00:43:17,072 that men like Poindexter, North, and McFarlane could hold. 1010 00:43:17,203 --> 00:43:18,900 "The ultimate responsibility for Iran-Contra," 1011 00:43:19,031 --> 00:43:21,599 the report said, "rested with the president." 1012 00:43:21,729 --> 00:43:24,036 We believe that the president is responsible 1013 00:43:24,166 --> 00:43:27,387 for the actions and attitudes of his staff. 1014 00:43:27,517 --> 00:43:29,868 If the president did not know, he should have. 1015 00:43:29,998 --> 00:43:31,913 โ™ช 1016 00:43:32,044 --> 00:43:34,176 [McManus] Iran-Contra is unusual as a scandal 1017 00:43:34,307 --> 00:43:37,005 because there is so much on the public record 1018 00:43:37,136 --> 00:43:39,138 about what happened. 1019 00:43:39,268 --> 00:43:41,183 So we actually know a lot more 1020 00:43:41,314 --> 00:43:44,056 about the covert world from Iran-Contra 1021 00:43:44,186 --> 00:43:49,061 than we do from almost any other story of that generation. 1022 00:43:49,191 --> 00:43:53,935 But we still don't know for a fact 1023 00:43:54,066 --> 00:43:57,373 whether Ronald Reagan knew about 1024 00:43:57,504 --> 00:44:01,247 or approved the diversion of funds. 1025 00:44:01,987 --> 00:44:04,772 [Neyfakh] Ultimately, Congress found President Reagan 1026 00:44:04,903 --> 00:44:06,252 to be a negligent leader. 1027 00:44:06,382 --> 00:44:08,471 But without the full story of what he knew 1028 00:44:08,602 --> 00:44:12,127 and when he knew it, and without public support, 1029 00:44:12,258 --> 00:44:14,390 they decided against trying to impeach him. 1030 00:44:14,521 --> 00:44:17,872 In those days, impeachment was not something 1031 00:44:18,003 --> 00:44:20,309 that the Congress talked a lot about. 1032 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:24,183 And it was a very unusual weapon to use. 1033 00:44:24,313 --> 00:44:27,142 Even though it was used against President Nixon, 1034 00:44:27,273 --> 00:44:29,144 I think the sense was 1035 00:44:29,275 --> 00:44:32,191 it was not something that should be abused. 1036 00:44:32,321 --> 00:44:34,106 [suspenseful music] 1037 00:44:34,236 --> 00:44:36,195 [Neyfakh] With impeachment off the table, 1038 00:44:36,325 --> 00:44:39,938 Reagan was free and clear to finish his second term. 1039 00:44:40,503 --> 00:44:43,115 [Kuhn] You know, Reagan was always focused 1040 00:44:43,245 --> 00:44:46,292 on the positiveness of any situation. 1041 00:44:47,293 --> 00:44:52,211 When he had his major surgery to get the tumor out, 1042 00:44:52,341 --> 00:44:56,519 immediately thereafter, the head of the National Cancer Institute 1043 00:44:56,650 --> 00:45:00,436 held a press conference and made the broad statement, 1044 00:45:00,567 --> 00:45:02,830 "President Reagan has cancer." 1045 00:45:02,961 --> 00:45:05,267 But Reagan-- 1046 00:45:05,398 --> 00:45:08,053 In interviews following his surgery, 1047 00:45:08,183 --> 00:45:12,710 Reagan said over and over again that he never had cancer. 1048 00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,016 And people would pause, "Well, what do you mean?" 1049 00:45:15,147 --> 00:45:17,497 And he said, "Well, I didn't have cancer. 1050 00:45:17,627 --> 00:45:22,023 This tumor, it had cancer, but I didn't have cancer." 1051 00:45:22,154 --> 00:45:24,025 And that was Reagan's way of rationalizing, 1052 00:45:24,156 --> 00:45:26,985 always taking the bright side, the sunny side. 1053 00:45:27,115 --> 00:45:29,248 He was the eternal optimist. 1054 00:45:29,378 --> 00:45:31,163 [Neyfakh] By 1988, 1055 00:45:31,293 --> 00:45:33,339 Reagan's final year in the White House, 1056 00:45:33,469 --> 00:45:35,428 criminal charges were being filed 1057 00:45:35,558 --> 00:45:38,431 against many of the people involved in Iran-Contra. 1058 00:45:38,561 --> 00:45:40,476 But by that point, the majority of the country 1059 00:45:40,607 --> 00:45:42,914 seemed to have simply moved on. 1060 00:45:43,044 --> 00:45:44,176 [Byrne] The show was over. 1061 00:45:44,306 --> 00:45:45,481 There was a large chunk of society 1062 00:45:45,612 --> 00:45:47,179 that was sitting there going, 1063 00:45:47,309 --> 00:45:48,963 "How is he getting away with this?" 1064 00:45:49,094 --> 00:45:51,705 But there was another chunk of society going, 1065 00:45:51,836 --> 00:45:53,185 "Move on. We've got other things to do." 1066 00:45:53,315 --> 00:45:55,361 โ™ช 1067 00:45:55,491 --> 00:45:57,145 And, in fact, big events were happening. 1068 00:45:57,276 --> 00:45:59,017 Gorbachev was in power. 1069 00:45:59,147 --> 00:46:00,366 Reagan was meeting with him in Reykjavik, 1070 00:46:00,496 --> 00:46:01,410 and they were starting to dismantle 1071 00:46:01,541 --> 00:46:03,412 the nuclear machinery. 1072 00:46:03,543 --> 00:46:05,197 [translator] It is my impression 1073 00:46:05,327 --> 00:46:07,329 that we can deal with President Reagan. 1074 00:46:07,460 --> 00:46:09,375 We can continue dialogue with him. 1075 00:46:09,505 --> 00:46:12,508 We can continue searching for solutions. 1076 00:46:12,639 --> 00:46:17,209 And the Cold War was about to end. 1077 00:46:17,339 --> 00:46:20,560 All sorts of things were going on that overtook Iran-Contra 1078 00:46:20,690 --> 00:46:23,084 and put it on the sidelines of history. 1079 00:46:23,215 --> 00:46:25,391 โ™ช 1080 00:46:25,521 --> 00:46:28,176 [Neyfakh] Nine days before he left the White House, 1081 00:46:28,307 --> 00:46:31,179 there was one subject nagging Reagan's presidency. 1082 00:46:31,310 --> 00:46:33,007 There were still several hostages 1083 00:46:33,138 --> 00:46:35,314 being held captive in Beirut. 1084 00:46:35,444 --> 00:46:39,405 Some of them had been abducted during his time in office. 1085 00:46:39,535 --> 00:46:41,450 [man] What about the American hostages in Lebanon? 1086 00:46:41,581 --> 00:46:43,278 Do you think there is any chance 1087 00:46:43,409 --> 00:46:46,542 that they may be released as you're leaving office? 1088 00:46:46,673 --> 00:46:49,545 I can only pray and continue what we've--We've been exploring 1089 00:46:49,676 --> 00:46:52,592 every channel possible for their release. 1090 00:46:52,722 --> 00:46:56,770 And they've never been out of my mind 1091 00:46:56,901 --> 00:47:00,426 since they were so unfairly seized. 1092 00:47:01,296 --> 00:47:03,429 [Neyfakh] When Reagan finished his second term, 1093 00:47:03,559 --> 00:47:06,040 he held the highest approval rating of any president 1094 00:47:06,171 --> 00:47:07,259 since Franklin Roosevelt. 1095 00:47:07,389 --> 00:47:09,478 [man] Smile. 1096 00:47:09,609 --> 00:47:11,002 [Neyfakh] And his vice president, 1097 00:47:11,132 --> 00:47:12,394 George H.W. Bush, 1098 00:47:12,525 --> 00:47:15,180 was voted in as his successor. 1099 00:47:15,310 --> 00:47:17,617 That I will faithfully execute 1100 00:47:17,747 --> 00:47:20,402 the office of president of the United States. 1101 00:47:20,533 --> 00:47:22,274 [Neyfakh] Meanwhile, Bush and the rest 1102 00:47:22,404 --> 00:47:24,450 of the administration continued 1103 00:47:24,580 --> 00:47:27,235 to face scrutiny from criminal investigators. 1104 00:47:29,716 --> 00:47:33,241 The independent counsel probe, initiated back in 1986, 1105 00:47:33,372 --> 00:47:35,156 revealed wrongdoing 1106 00:47:35,287 --> 00:47:37,376 at the highest levels of the White House, 1107 00:47:37,506 --> 00:47:39,465 leading to felony and misdemeanor charges 1108 00:47:39,595 --> 00:47:43,164 against multiple members of Reagan's administration. 1109 00:47:43,295 --> 00:47:46,515 That included Oliver North and John Poindexter. 1110 00:47:46,646 --> 00:47:49,344 In the end, there were plenty of convictions, 1111 00:47:49,475 --> 00:47:52,130 but most of them were ultimately undone. 1112 00:47:52,260 --> 00:47:54,001 [turkey clucking, laughter] 1113 00:47:54,132 --> 00:47:55,350 Happy Thanksgiving. 1114 00:47:55,481 --> 00:47:56,612 [Neyfakh] On George H.W. Bush's 1115 00:47:56,743 --> 00:47:58,614 first Thanksgiving as president, 1116 00:47:58,745 --> 00:48:02,575 he instituted the turkey pardon as a permanent annual tradition. 1117 00:48:02,705 --> 00:48:05,360 Let me assure you, and this fine tom turkey, 1118 00:48:05,491 --> 00:48:08,537 that he will not end up on anyone's dinner table. 1119 00:48:08,668 --> 00:48:10,626 Not this guy. 1120 00:48:10,757 --> 00:48:14,369 He is granted a presidential pardon as of right now. 1121 00:48:14,500 --> 00:48:17,633 [Neyfakh] For Bush, it turned out to be good practice. 1122 00:48:17,764 --> 00:48:19,853 On Christmas Eve, a few years later, 1123 00:48:19,984 --> 00:48:22,464 he held another pardoning ceremony, 1124 00:48:22,595 --> 00:48:25,337 this time granting clemency to several top officials 1125 00:48:25,467 --> 00:48:28,079 implicated in the Iran-Contra scandal. 1126 00:48:28,209 --> 00:48:29,907 [intriguing music] 1127 00:48:30,037 --> 00:48:32,039 [woman] Mr. Bush granted executive clemency 1128 00:48:32,170 --> 00:48:33,388 to six public officials 1129 00:48:33,519 --> 00:48:35,651 involved in the Iran-Contra affair. 1130 00:48:35,782 --> 00:48:38,785 The Constitution is quite clear on the powers of the president, 1131 00:48:38,916 --> 00:48:42,267 and sometimes the president has to make a very difficult call, 1132 00:48:42,397 --> 00:48:45,313 and that's what I have done. 1133 00:48:45,444 --> 00:48:46,619 [man] Independent counsel Lawrence Walsh 1134 00:48:46,749 --> 00:48:48,664 says the lesson is clear. 1135 00:48:48,795 --> 00:48:50,275 [man] Is the message here, if you work for the government, 1136 00:48:50,405 --> 00:48:51,929 you're above the law? 1137 00:48:52,059 --> 00:48:54,409 That depends on the president you work for. 1138 00:48:55,062 --> 00:48:57,282 [Kornbluh] Lawrence Walsh, the independent counsel, 1139 00:48:57,412 --> 00:48:59,371 famously said of the Bush pardons 1140 00:48:59,501 --> 00:49:02,330 that they completed the cover-up. 1141 00:49:02,461 --> 00:49:04,724 He was exactly right. 1142 00:49:04,854 --> 00:49:08,249 The Bush pardons basically shut the door 1143 00:49:08,380 --> 00:49:13,167 on further investigation and accountability 1144 00:49:13,298 --> 00:49:15,213 in the Iran-Contra scandal. 1145 00:49:15,343 --> 00:49:18,390 Most all of the key officials 1146 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,306 who authorized and implemented 1147 00:49:21,436 --> 00:49:25,223 those operations got off scot-free. 1148 00:49:26,093 --> 00:49:29,270 Yes, their lives were disrupted for a while. 1149 00:49:29,401 --> 00:49:32,795 Arguably, their legacies weren't even really dented. 1150 00:49:32,926 --> 00:49:37,409 They went on to lead the rest of their lives. 1151 00:49:37,539 --> 00:49:40,455 But the lesson was really not learned, 1152 00:49:40,586 --> 00:49:42,718 and the safeguards against preventing 1153 00:49:42,849 --> 00:49:46,331 these extra-constitutionally illegal abuses of power 1154 00:49:46,461 --> 00:49:50,596 from happening again were really not put in place. 1155 00:49:50,726 --> 00:49:53,381 And it is just a matter of time 1156 00:49:53,512 --> 00:49:57,342 before we have other scandals of similar magnitude. 1157 00:49:57,472 --> 00:50:00,301 [tense music] 1158 00:50:00,432 --> 00:50:02,129 [McManus] To me, one of the big lessons 1159 00:50:02,260 --> 00:50:04,610 of this entire affair 1160 00:50:04,740 --> 00:50:08,440 is how enormous the discretionary powers 1161 00:50:08,570 --> 00:50:10,485 of the president of the United States are. 1162 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,446 Congress, or the American public, 1163 00:50:14,576 --> 00:50:17,710 can try and limit a president with laws, 1164 00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,408 with regulations, with norms. 1165 00:50:20,539 --> 00:50:22,454 [applause] 1166 00:50:22,584 --> 00:50:25,500 But we and the Congress have granted 1167 00:50:25,631 --> 00:50:28,416 so many discretionary powers to a president, 1168 00:50:28,547 --> 00:50:32,420 whether it's by how he can use funds, 1169 00:50:32,551 --> 00:50:34,814 how he can use the CIA, 1170 00:50:34,944 --> 00:50:38,035 how he or she can simply pick up the telephone 1171 00:50:38,165 --> 00:50:40,776 and call a foreign leader and ask for a favor. 1172 00:50:40,907 --> 00:50:43,518 It may eventually turn into a scandal. 1173 00:50:43,649 --> 00:50:47,522 It may eventually damage that president's standing, 1174 00:50:47,653 --> 00:50:51,613 but there is no effective way from stopping a president 1175 00:50:51,744 --> 00:50:53,572 from doing it in the first place. 1176 00:50:55,878 --> 00:51:00,318 [Reed] It certainly showed a management failure 1177 00:51:00,448 --> 00:51:02,233 of the National Security Council 1178 00:51:02,363 --> 00:51:04,757 during the Reagan administration. 1179 00:51:04,887 --> 00:51:08,543 I think that there were people who were so committed 1180 00:51:08,674 --> 00:51:11,590 to continuing to oppose the Soviets 1181 00:51:11,720 --> 00:51:14,636 that, you know, they did things 1182 00:51:14,767 --> 00:51:17,552 that they thought were in the gray area. 1183 00:51:19,511 --> 00:51:20,816 While, ultimately, when you're president, 1184 00:51:20,947 --> 00:51:22,905 the buck stops at your desk, 1185 00:51:23,036 --> 00:51:25,734 and Ronald Reagan has to accept responsibility 1186 00:51:25,865 --> 00:51:27,867 for everything that happened on his watch. 1187 00:51:27,997 --> 00:51:30,391 He clearly had no knowledge of it. 1188 00:51:30,522 --> 00:51:32,741 He would not have approved of it. 1189 00:51:32,872 --> 00:51:37,616 I also think that the stand that he took against Communism 1190 00:51:37,746 --> 00:51:39,879 has been vindicated by history 1191 00:51:40,009 --> 00:51:43,622 and by our ultimate victory in the Cold War 1192 00:51:43,752 --> 00:51:45,885 by defeating the Soviet Union 1193 00:51:46,015 --> 00:51:49,497 without ever having to fire a single shot. 1194 00:51:49,628 --> 00:51:51,673 Ultimately, Reagan did prevail, 1195 00:51:51,804 --> 00:51:54,546 and his policies were vindicated. 1196 00:51:54,676 --> 00:51:57,462 I think he's been vindicated by history. 1197 00:51:58,463 --> 00:52:00,378 [Neyfakh] In his speech welcoming home 1198 00:52:00,508 --> 00:52:03,772 the Tehran hostages back in 1981, 1199 00:52:03,903 --> 00:52:07,689 Reagan had depicted an America so respected and so feared 1200 00:52:07,820 --> 00:52:10,736 that there was no limit to what it would do for its citizens. 1201 00:52:10,866 --> 00:52:12,564 As it turned out, it would be 1202 00:52:12,694 --> 00:52:15,567 almost three years after Reagan left office 1203 00:52:15,697 --> 00:52:18,265 that the last of the American hostages in Beirut 1204 00:52:18,396 --> 00:52:20,963 would be released. 1205 00:52:21,094 --> 00:52:24,880 Although Reagan himself sidestepped any lasting damage, 1206 00:52:25,011 --> 00:52:27,492 Iran-Contra has continued to reverberate 1207 00:52:27,622 --> 00:52:30,408 in every corner of the world the scheme touched. 1208 00:52:30,538 --> 00:52:32,975 [McManus] Americans sometimes don't understand 1209 00:52:33,106 --> 00:52:35,500 the resentment in which American foreign policy 1210 00:52:35,630 --> 00:52:38,503 is held in weaker countries. 1211 00:52:38,633 --> 00:52:42,942 Don't understand that Iranians, for example, 1212 00:52:43,072 --> 00:52:47,599 carry within them the story of the CIA's intervention 1213 00:52:47,729 --> 00:52:50,732 against an earlier democratic regime 1214 00:52:50,863 --> 00:52:53,822 that overthrew the regime and restored the Shah to power. 1215 00:52:53,953 --> 00:52:56,956 Most of us never heard that story in school. 1216 00:52:57,086 --> 00:53:00,786 We often don't understand that Latin Americans, 1217 00:53:00,916 --> 00:53:04,703 much as they admire the United States, 1218 00:53:04,833 --> 00:53:08,576 also bear the burden of this enormously powerful neighbor 1219 00:53:08,707 --> 00:53:11,536 that, throughout its history, 1220 00:53:11,666 --> 00:53:14,626 has asserted the power to intervene in their countries 1221 00:53:14,756 --> 00:53:17,759 to determine who ought to be in charge. 1222 00:53:17,890 --> 00:53:21,546 [Neyfakh] In 1990, after more than a decade of civil war, 1223 00:53:21,676 --> 00:53:24,418 a political neophyte named Violeta Chamorro 1224 00:53:24,549 --> 00:53:27,508 was elected president of Nicaragua. 1225 00:53:27,639 --> 00:53:29,902 She was a pro-Contra activist whose campaign 1226 00:53:30,032 --> 00:53:32,818 had the full backing of the United States. 1227 00:53:33,427 --> 00:53:35,734 My high school and college years, 1228 00:53:35,864 --> 00:53:37,475 I was living in the United States 1229 00:53:37,605 --> 00:53:39,738 knowing full well that--you know, 1230 00:53:39,868 --> 00:53:43,655 that our tax dollars were supporting a war 1231 00:53:43,785 --> 00:53:46,788 that theoretically was about stopping Communism. 1232 00:53:46,919 --> 00:53:49,051 But the end result 1233 00:53:49,182 --> 00:53:52,881 was two percent of the population dead. 1234 00:53:53,012 --> 00:53:56,798 A war that is based, again, right, 1235 00:53:56,929 --> 00:54:01,803 on profoundly racist views 1236 00:54:01,934 --> 00:54:06,808 that agency is not allowed for Nicaraguans. 1237 00:54:06,939 --> 00:54:09,550 People in the U.S. can elect whoever they want to elect, 1238 00:54:09,681 --> 00:54:11,770 but that will not be allowed for Nicaraguans, 1239 00:54:11,900 --> 00:54:14,163 as if there are limits being placed 1240 00:54:14,294 --> 00:54:15,948 on the humanity of Nicaraguans 1241 00:54:16,078 --> 00:54:18,733 by people who will never, 1242 00:54:18,864 --> 00:54:22,389 ever, ever, you know, suffer the consequences. 1243 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:25,044 โ™ช 1244 00:54:25,174 --> 00:54:27,742 [Neyfakh] If it's true that most of the real consequences 1245 00:54:27,873 --> 00:54:29,875 of the Iran-Contra scandal were suffered 1246 00:54:30,005 --> 00:54:33,618 by people far away from Washington, D.C., 1247 00:54:33,748 --> 00:54:36,534 it still remains the case that Reagan came closer 1248 00:54:36,664 --> 00:54:38,753 to the fate of his predecessor, Jimmy Carter, 1249 00:54:38,884 --> 00:54:40,973 than anyone remembers. 1250 00:54:41,103 --> 00:54:42,931 In a very real sense, 1251 00:54:43,062 --> 00:54:45,064 a series of decisions made Reagan 1252 00:54:45,194 --> 00:54:48,110 the hostage he never thought he would be. 1253 00:54:48,241 --> 00:54:50,417 And maybe that's the great warning buried 1254 00:54:50,548 --> 00:54:51,853 in all of this-- 1255 00:54:51,984 --> 00:54:53,855 how quickly and quietly a country 1256 00:54:53,986 --> 00:54:56,815 often seen as the most powerful on Earth 1257 00:54:56,945 --> 00:55:00,297 can become trapped inside a cage of its own making 1258 00:55:00,427 --> 00:55:03,561 and how easily it could all happen again. 1259 00:55:03,691 --> 00:55:10,872 โ™ช 1260 00:55:11,003 --> 00:55:13,701 Ultimately, many of those involved in Iran-Contra 1261 00:55:13,832 --> 00:55:14,789 went free. 1262 00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,705 [tense piano music] 1263 00:55:17,836 --> 00:55:18,837 โ™ช 1264 00:55:18,967 --> 00:55:21,100 In a speech in 1988, 1265 00:55:21,230 --> 00:55:22,797 the founder of the Moral Majority, 1266 00:55:22,928 --> 00:55:24,799 Jerry Falwell, 1267 00:55:24,930 --> 00:55:29,064 introduced Oliver North as a true American hero 1268 00:55:29,195 --> 00:55:31,980 and compared him to Jesus Christ. 1269 00:55:32,111 --> 00:55:34,113 The first question's always asked, 1270 00:55:34,243 --> 00:55:37,595 "Why are you having an indicted man 1271 00:55:37,725 --> 00:55:40,511 to speak to the students at Liberty University?" 1272 00:55:41,599 --> 00:55:44,689 I said, "Well, we serve a savior who was indicted." 1273 00:55:44,819 --> 00:55:47,735 [applause] 1274 00:55:51,086 --> 00:55:52,958 [McFarlane] From my first time 1275 00:55:53,088 --> 00:55:54,960 in the Naval Academy, I mean, 1276 00:55:55,090 --> 00:55:57,571 it's in your bones. 1277 00:55:57,702 --> 00:55:59,007 You know what your job is. 1278 00:55:59,138 --> 00:56:01,575 Serve the country. 1279 00:56:01,706 --> 00:56:04,709 And don't blame somebody else. 1280 00:56:05,231 --> 00:56:07,581 Don't make up excuse, circumstances, 1281 00:56:07,712 --> 00:56:09,888 this kind of blarney. 1282 00:56:11,237 --> 00:56:13,805 You can at least stand up, 1283 00:56:13,935 --> 00:56:15,720 tell the truth, 1284 00:56:15,850 --> 00:56:17,852 take responsibility. 1285 00:56:17,983 --> 00:56:21,073 โ™ช 1286 00:56:21,203 --> 00:56:26,383 Sure, if I had to do it again, I would not have let it go on. 1287 00:56:27,645 --> 00:56:28,994 But I did. 1288 00:56:29,124 --> 00:56:33,607 And there is no changing the facts. 1289 00:56:33,738 --> 00:56:35,609 โ™ช 103712

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