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- By the pricking of my thumbs,
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something wicked
this way comes.
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[laughter]
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- [gasps]
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male narrator: Who's afraid
of a wicked witch?
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- [laughs]
[both screaming]
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narrator: Everybody.
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- "The Witch"
is a perfect example
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of an
atmospheric horror movie.
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- [growls]
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- It was one of the scariest
films I've ever seen.
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- [screams]
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- Sometimes an evil witch
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is just gonna come back
and haunt you.
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- [screams]
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- What are you gonna do?
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- Hello?
- [screams]
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- Who would've thought
"The Blair Witch Project"
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would work the way that it was.
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It's disturbing.
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- I mean, this was kamikaze
filmmaking at its greatest.
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It changed filmmaking.
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[scary music]
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- And it's always been that the
witch has negative intentions.
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She's punished at some point
for having the power.
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- You're a witch.
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- A solitary witch
is one thing,
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but a group a women
working together
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creating power that's more
than the sum of its parts,
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is just...
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exhilarating.
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[cheers and applause]
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- We were one of the first new
waves of bringing witchcraft
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and paganism to the future.
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[glass breaking]
- Aah!
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- "Suspiria" just feels weird
at all times.
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- [screams]
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- It's just so awesome.
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- We don't have consider the
rules and world of men at all.
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- [grunts]
- Aah!
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- They're outside
of all of our concerns here.
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[screaming]
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♪
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- [laughs]
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[eerie music]
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♪
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- [screams]
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narrator: The witch
is a towering figure
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in the history of horror.
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[voices moaning]
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narrator:
The archetypical evil witch
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is everything
mainstream religion
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tells us a woman
should not be:
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a Satan-worshipping,
baby-killing predator
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who fears neither God nor man.
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- [laughs]
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narrator:
Like all good monsters,
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a bad witch
does whatever she likes
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whenever she likes.
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[laughter]
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That unapologetic,
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very female power
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frightens men
and fascinates women.
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♪
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In real life, witches were
non-conformist women
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persecuted
by religious fanatics.
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They suffered horrible deaths
for their imagined crimes.
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- [screaming]
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narrator: Perhaps society's
collective guilt
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fuels the stories we tell
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about witches
who come back for revenge.
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[scary music]
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- Oh, dear God!
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narrator: Sometimes the
vengeful witches you don't see
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are the most terrifying,
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and there few better examples
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than
"The Blair Witch Project."
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- [Bleep]! Go!
[screaming] Oh, God!
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[screams]
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- Who would've thought
"The Blair Witch Project"
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would work the way that it was.
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The first time I saw that
movie, I was in the hospital,
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and I was doped up.
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My son brought
a VHS tape of it,
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and he said,
"You gotta watch this."
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Halfway through it, I said,
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"Turn it off, it's too freaky.
I can't."
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- Oh, my God,
what the [bleep] is that?
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What the [bleep] is that?
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- I had the same experience.
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I was like, "I have
to turn the lights on."
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I was so disturbedby the end of the movie.
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- It's disturbing.
That's right.
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- I was, like,I get chills thinking about
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how scared I was.
- Yeah.
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- [heavy breathing]
- Come on!
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I hear him downstairs!
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- In "The Blair Witch Project,"
the witch,
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it feels like it's everywhere.
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- Hello?
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- It's almost like
the woods itself is the witch.
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There's not just this one
mysterious figure
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that shows up.
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The entire experience
is mysterious.
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- All right, come on.
Into the house.
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Come on.
Come on.
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narrator:
"The Blair Witch Project"
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wasn't the first
found footage movie ever made,
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but it was the first
to become a massive hit.
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- We have these
three film students
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going off into the woods
to make a documentary
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about what they believe
is an urban legend
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of the Blair Witch.
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- Have you heard
of the Blair Witch?
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- Oh, yeah.
That's an old, old, old story.
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- So from the very beginning,
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the interviews with the
townspeople are all credible.
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These don't look like actors.
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These look like just people
you would meet on the street.
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And that crew is every bit
as annoying...
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[laughs]
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As you might imagine a crew
in real life might be.
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- Oh, he licked it.
God bless him.
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- Yeah, there we go.
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- They didn't cast, like,
CW-type hunky leads.
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They were, you know,
the schlubs next door
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or the people in the dorm room
next to you.
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- Packs are on.
- We're rocking.
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- We're ready to go.
- Let's rock.
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- All I knew when I was gunning
for the job
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and--and--and when I first
got hired was,
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it was a movie about
three student filmmakers
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who went out in the woods
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to investigate the legend
of the Blair Witch,
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and they went missing.
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- Actors Heather Donahue,
Josh Leonard,
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and Mike Williams
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were given film equipment and
a loose set of instructions,
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then sent off into the woods.
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- So they wanted to keep it
as naturalistic as possible.
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It is the three of us
filming each other
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and recording sound
of each other
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and we would have
no direct interaction
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with the directors of the film
while we were making it.
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They gave us a GPS, and they
had programmed in waypoints
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which were hatch marks
on the map,
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and we were to find our way
to these different waypoints.
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So we knew we were
gonna encounter things;
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we just didn't know what
those things were gonna be.
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- What?
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- Some of your stuff is
hanging all over the ground!
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- No way.
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- They're all over the place.
- Holy [bleep].
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- The special effects,
if you wanna call it that,
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rocks and twigs, you know?
[laughs]
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Things hanging in the woods
are so simple
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that they feel true.
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They don't feel like
something that, you know,
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a set designer's
gonna come up with.
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- Hello?
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- They find clues that
the Blair Witch might be real.
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- You don't think
this is strange?
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- They start to be
kind of stalked.
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They find themselves
lost in the woods,
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and it seems to be due
to a supernatural force.
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- [cries]
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- They start to
act irrationally.
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- Help!
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- They end up going
in circles.
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- Turn that thing off!
- [Bleep].
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- Then they start
getting picked off
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kind of one by one.
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- [heavy breathing]
- Come on!
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Josh!
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- In the end of course,
they're all dead.
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[thumps]
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And that's how the footage
supposedly came to us.
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- [heavy breathing]
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- It's that beautiful moment
when she's on the ground,
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and she's weeping
and shuddering...
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that actress was terrified
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and put all of that work
into the camera,
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and it came right at us,
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and we wanted to help her.
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- I'm scared to close my eyes.
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I'm scared to open them.
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- I think without
Heather's monologue
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and that weird framingof that shot,
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I don't think the film works.
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- I am so, so sorry.
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[whimpering]
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- I think that very iconic
moment made the film,
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and added so many stakes
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and so much relatability
to the film,
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and Mike and I had no idea
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that she filmed that
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until we saw it for
the first time in a theater.
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- I'm gonna die out here.
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♪
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narrator: Made for $60,000,
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"The Blair Witch Project"
grossed $250 million
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at the box office.
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- [heavy breathing]
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- It was the first movie
that used the internet
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to sell tickets basically,
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to use the internet to create
a marketing campaign,
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and it was brilliant.
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It had never
been attempted before.
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narrator: The film was
marketed as a true story,
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a deception supported
by a convincing website.
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- I thought that film
was real.
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I walked out of there going,
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"We have to find--
we have to find these people.
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Where are they?"
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- I hear him.
I hear him.
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I hear you.
Josh!
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- It feels like you're there.
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It feels like something
that would happen.
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- [screams]
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- "Blair Witch" nailed it.
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- [screaming]
[thumps]
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narrator: "Blair Witch"
is part of a long tradition
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of treating witchcraft
as a force of evil,
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but some movies show us
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witchcraft can be
a force for good
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if it's in the right hands.
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- [screaming]
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narrator: In the movies,
witches wear many faces.
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[scary music]
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Ugly and beautiful.
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Repellent and irresistible.
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♪
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But for most people,
the all-time iconic witch
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arrived in 1939,
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in the form of actress
Margaret Hamilton.
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♪
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- If we were doing a Rorschach
test and you said witch,
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the first thing
I would say back to you
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is the Wicked Witch of the West
in "The Wizard of Oz,"
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a film that millions upon
millions of people have seen.
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♪
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I think she is the
personification of a witch.
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- I'll get you, my pretty,
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and your little dog too!
[cackles]
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narrator: The merciless
Wicked Witch of the West
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is one of the most
recognizable creations
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in cinema.
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Green face, hook nose,
pointed chin--
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she represents one of the
oldest villains of folklore:
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the evil crone.
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- [laughs]
- Oh!
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narrator: And like many
horror archetypes,
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she's the product
of cultural anxiety.
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- [laughing]
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- Aging, especially for women,
is terrifying.
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If our bodies are
our primary form of currency,
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then as we age, we lose value.
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One way that women are kind
of contained in society
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is by being expected
to focus on being appealing
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and so the crone
is terrifying
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because she has
no interest in that.
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- Aah!
263
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[mysterious music]
264
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- [barking]
265
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narrator:
But in the modern times,
266
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witches have become dynamic
figures of female power.
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[laughter]
268
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Like the glamorous
Witches of Eastwick.
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[laughter]
270
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[whimsical music]
271
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Repressed women liberated when
they embrace their passions.
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[dramatic music]
273
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At first they fill
the traditional witch's role
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of being Satan's concubines...
275
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[scary music]
276
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But when they pool
their power,
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they put the chauvinist devil
in his place.
278
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- [screams]
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♪
280
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[moans]
281
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- I put a spell on you.
282
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[mysterious music]
283
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And now you're mine.
284
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narrator:
The three witchy sisters
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of Disney's "Hocus Pocus" had
a classically evil goal:
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to drain out
the souls of children.
287
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[witches inhale and sigh]
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They were scary and powerful,
but somehow lovable.
289
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- I suggest we forma calming circle.
290
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- I am calm!
291
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- Oh, sister, thou art notbeing honest with thyself,
292
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are we?
293
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[scary music]
294
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- It is a fine line
figuring out how evil
295
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to make the witches,
296
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how playful to make
the surroundings,
297
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and they have to be a threat.
298
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- [snarls]
[kids screaming]
299
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- But they can't be unpleasant.
300
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- [screaming]
301
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[rock music]
302
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- But the real turning point
303
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in the representation
of witches
304
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came with a horror movie
aimed at teenagers.
305
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[eerie music]
306
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♪
307
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The young women in "The Craft"
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embraced the Earth-worshipping
magic of modern day pagans...
309
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- [whispering]
310
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narrator: With a healthy dose
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of supernatural
special effects.
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♪
313
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[knocking]
314
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- Hi, I got clean towels
for everyone.
315
00:12:49,246 --> 00:12:50,726
- Aah!
316
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Oh, my butt.
317
00:12:52,902 --> 00:12:55,165
- What's going on in here?
- Nothing, why?
318
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- Are you girls getting high?
- No, Mom.
319
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- [laughs]
320
00:12:58,255 --> 00:13:00,649
- "The Craft" gave us outcasts
321
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who kind of came
into their power,
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despite or maybe even because
of that outsider status,
323
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and it gave us this model
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of girls who could be
kind of badass
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and kind of goth
and just different.
326
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- "The Craft"
is about four girls,
327
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three who have been together
for a while,
328
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and a new girl arrives at
school, Sarah Bailey...
329
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- Do you guys mind
if I sit with you?
330
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'Cause I'm supposed to find
the lab group.
331
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- She meets this group
of outcasts
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and finds a place where
she can maybe fit in,
333
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and it turns out that
this group is witches.
334
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- Aid us in our magicalworking on this May's eve.
335
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[thunder cracks]
336
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- We see that they each have
a kind of issue.
337
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- Don't hit your headon the board.
338
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- Racism...
339
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The scarring of Neve
Campbell's character's body.
340
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- [groaning]
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- Intimate partner violence,
some domestic violence.
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- Stop!
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- We see that
by working together,
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they can kind of create
this power where
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they're more than
the sum of their parts.
346
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narrator: Like modern
Wiccans and Pagans,
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these girls
don't worship Satan.
348
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They draw their power
from nature.
349
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all chanting: Fire, water, air.
350
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- I think witch's power
is so important
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is because it's rooted
in strength.
352
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Witchcraft and Paganism,
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it's rooted in a connection
to the Earth.
354
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- As above...
355
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- It is respect for the Earth.
356
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- So below.
357
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- But the idea was to take the
religion, Wicca, seriously.
358
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If you get all
of the little details right
359
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about this religion,
360
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you can take a few liberties
361
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and make something
supernatural happen,
362
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and it's more believable.
363
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- Ours is the magic,
ours is the power.
364
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[rock music]
365
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- They start practicing
witchcraft more intensely
366
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and getting magical results,
367
00:15:03,946 --> 00:15:06,340
and they're intoxicated
by the results,
368
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and then they want more.
[both screaming]
369
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- It's analogy
for female sexuality.
370
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If you notice,
as their powers get stronger,
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our skirts get shorter.
372
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Society's always been
scared of women
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and their sexuality.
374
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And teenagers, that's
their burgeoning sexuality
375
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when it hits,
376
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so the witchcraft kind of
an analogy for that fear
377
00:15:25,011 --> 00:15:26,229
that we have
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of women coming
into their power.
379
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[scary music]
380
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narrator: At first, the girls'
new power is liberating...
381
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- [laughs]
382
00:15:35,282 --> 00:15:37,675
narrator: But they soon begin
to abuse their gifts...
383
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- [gasps]
384
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narrator: First with
small acts of revenge...
385
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- Just keeps falling out.
386
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- [screaming]
387
00:15:45,553 --> 00:15:47,207
narrator:
And then with murder.
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[thumps]
- [screams]
389
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- Nancy's character
is the addict.
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She's the one who can't
restrain her use of the power.
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When she gets a good feeling
she needs more of it.
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♪
393
00:16:03,745 --> 00:16:05,486
narrator: "The Craft"
uses witchcraft
394
00:16:05,529 --> 00:16:06,878
as a metaphor for drug use.
395
00:16:06,922 --> 00:16:09,359
- [screams]
396
00:16:09,403 --> 00:16:11,013
narrator:
But it also uses
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the tight knit circle
of a witch's coven
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to explore the world
of teenage girls...
399
00:16:15,583 --> 00:16:17,150
♪
400
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A time when your best friends
401
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can become your worst enemies
overnight.
402
00:16:22,807 --> 00:16:23,983
- There you are.
403
00:16:24,026 --> 00:16:26,289
We've looking everywhere
for you.
404
00:16:26,333 --> 00:16:28,944
- As teenage girls,
they're hitting the age
405
00:16:28,988 --> 00:16:30,511
where you start to get
pitted against each other.
406
00:16:30,554 --> 00:16:32,600
Instead of having sisterhood,
407
00:16:32,643 --> 00:16:35,255
we started to go,
"There can only be one!"
408
00:16:35,298 --> 00:16:37,257
And that's insane.
409
00:16:37,300 --> 00:16:39,215
- [laughs]
410
00:16:39,259 --> 00:16:41,826
♪
411
00:16:41,870 --> 00:16:43,915
- When you're a teenager,
your brain just isn't right.
412
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You're chemically not balanced,
413
00:16:45,917 --> 00:16:48,442
and then you add in
the social constructs
414
00:16:48,485 --> 00:16:50,748
and the way that they're
trying to navigate that
415
00:16:50,792 --> 00:16:53,229
and interact with one another.
416
00:16:53,273 --> 00:16:56,189
There is something, like,
an element of violence to it,
417
00:16:56,232 --> 00:16:59,061
even if it's never physical,
it's, like, emotional violence
418
00:16:59,105 --> 00:17:00,802
that you deal with
as a teenage girl.
419
00:17:00,845 --> 00:17:03,152
[laughter]
420
00:17:03,196 --> 00:17:05,633
I think the horror genre
is actually a great genre
421
00:17:05,676 --> 00:17:07,896
to explore those concepts
422
00:17:07,939 --> 00:17:10,377
because you can make physical
423
00:17:10,420 --> 00:17:12,466
what a lot of girls
are feeling internally
424
00:17:12,509 --> 00:17:13,510
all the time.
425
00:17:13,554 --> 00:17:15,425
- [screams]
Stop it!
426
00:17:15,469 --> 00:17:19,081
[heavy breathing]
427
00:17:19,125 --> 00:17:21,388
narrator: "The Craft"
was a frothy blend
428
00:17:21,431 --> 00:17:22,780
of adolescent angst
429
00:17:22,824 --> 00:17:26,132
and modern witchcraft.
430
00:17:26,175 --> 00:17:30,092
"Hereditary"
mixes similar ingredients
431
00:17:30,136 --> 00:17:32,616
into a much darker brew.
- [screams]
432
00:17:38,492 --> 00:17:40,581
narrator: In the movies,
433
00:17:40,624 --> 00:17:42,539
the wicked witches
of olden times
434
00:17:42,583 --> 00:17:44,628
were easy to spot.
435
00:17:44,672 --> 00:17:46,413
[chatter]
436
00:17:46,456 --> 00:17:49,894
But what do modern day
wicked witches look like?
437
00:17:49,938 --> 00:17:51,113
[horrific musical sting]
438
00:17:51,157 --> 00:17:53,507
Perhaps like the shadowy coven
439
00:17:53,550 --> 00:17:55,857
in Ari Aster's harrowing film,
"Hereditary."
440
00:17:58,120 --> 00:18:00,035
Though they are
never clearly seen
441
00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:02,646
until the film's
explosive conclusion...
442
00:18:02,690 --> 00:18:04,996
[buzzing]
- [heavy breathing]
443
00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,216
[screams]
444
00:18:07,260 --> 00:18:09,784
- Mommy, please,
I'm begging you.
445
00:18:09,827 --> 00:18:11,873
I'm begging you to stop!
446
00:18:11,916 --> 00:18:13,614
narrator: Their presence
is always felt.
447
00:18:13,657 --> 00:18:15,181
- [grunts]
448
00:18:16,921 --> 00:18:19,098
- One of the first images
that came to me
449
00:18:19,141 --> 00:18:21,143
when I was developing
"Hereditary,"
450
00:18:21,187 --> 00:18:23,580
was that of the dollhouse
451
00:18:23,624 --> 00:18:25,800
and this artist who was,
you know,
452
00:18:25,843 --> 00:18:28,672
making these very
true to life replicas
453
00:18:28,716 --> 00:18:31,284
of, like,
the spaces in her life.
454
00:18:31,327 --> 00:18:34,635
That just felt like
an appropriate metaphor
455
00:18:34,678 --> 00:18:38,421
for this film about a family
that ultimately has no agency.
456
00:18:38,465 --> 00:18:40,641
Ultimately, they are like dolls
in a dollhouse.
457
00:18:40,684 --> 00:18:43,122
narrator: The family
is grappling with the death
458
00:18:43,165 --> 00:18:45,559
of its icy matriarch.
459
00:18:45,602 --> 00:18:48,779
They don't realize grandma was
the leader of a witch's coven
460
00:18:48,823 --> 00:18:50,825
that worships a demon
named Paimon.
461
00:18:52,435 --> 00:18:55,221
And she won't let
a small thing like dying
462
00:18:55,264 --> 00:18:57,919
get in the way of her plans
for her granddaughter,
463
00:18:57,962 --> 00:18:59,703
a strange 13-year-old
named Charlie.
464
00:18:59,747 --> 00:19:01,096
- [clicks tongue]
465
00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:06,667
- I really wanted to be
in a horror movie,
466
00:19:06,710 --> 00:19:08,321
specifically as a character
that wasn't, like,
467
00:19:08,364 --> 00:19:10,192
the one running around scared,
468
00:19:10,236 --> 00:19:13,500
so I could kind of figure out
what that person is thinking
469
00:19:13,543 --> 00:19:15,241
and, like, why they're doing
the things they do
470
00:19:15,284 --> 00:19:16,546
and how their brain works.
471
00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,767
I don't think like that,
472
00:19:19,810 --> 00:19:21,856
I wouldn't normally, like,
cut bird heads off...
473
00:19:24,206 --> 00:19:27,209
narrator:
Charlie's peculiar behavior
474
00:19:27,253 --> 00:19:28,689
is explained by the fact
475
00:19:28,732 --> 00:19:32,562
that she and the demon
share a body
476
00:19:32,606 --> 00:19:37,219
thanks to grandma's
black magic.
477
00:19:37,263 --> 00:19:39,787
At first,
"Hereditary" seems to be about
478
00:19:39,830 --> 00:19:42,964
a woman who doesn't realize
her child is possessed.
479
00:19:43,007 --> 00:19:45,314
- You're going.
- Why?
480
00:19:45,358 --> 00:19:46,750
- Because it'll be fun.
481
00:19:46,794 --> 00:19:48,535
Because you'll get to hang out
with other kids.
482
00:19:48,578 --> 00:19:50,493
narrator: But then Charlie
and her brother Peter
483
00:19:50,537 --> 00:19:52,016
go to a party,
484
00:19:52,060 --> 00:19:53,801
she has
an allergic reaction...
485
00:19:53,844 --> 00:19:56,020
- I think my throat's
getting bigger.
486
00:19:56,064 --> 00:19:57,935
narrator: He tries to rush her
to a hospital
487
00:19:57,979 --> 00:20:00,373
and things take a tragic turn.
488
00:20:00,416 --> 00:20:03,027
[tires screech]
489
00:20:03,071 --> 00:20:04,942
- Ooh!
[coughs]
490
00:20:04,986 --> 00:20:06,553
[gasping]
491
00:20:06,596 --> 00:20:09,599
I was excited
to get decapitated.
492
00:20:09,643 --> 00:20:12,602
I've always wanted to die
in a film or a show
493
00:20:12,646 --> 00:20:14,909
in some, like,
very overdramatic way
494
00:20:14,952 --> 00:20:16,998
and getting decapitated,
495
00:20:17,041 --> 00:20:19,174
it's, like, one of
the best ways to go.
496
00:20:19,218 --> 00:20:21,655
It's so dramatic.
It's so, like, extreme.
497
00:20:21,698 --> 00:20:24,658
[tires screeching]
498
00:20:28,270 --> 00:20:29,837
- The head comes off,
499
00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,100
but it's handled in a very
kind of tasteful way,
500
00:20:32,143 --> 00:20:33,710
and part of the fun of that
501
00:20:33,754 --> 00:20:36,757
was knowing that
we were gonna stay with Peter
502
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,324
for a very long time,
503
00:20:38,367 --> 00:20:40,761
go home with him,
go to bed with him,
504
00:20:40,804 --> 00:20:44,155
and then drop the head
eight minutes later.
505
00:20:44,199 --> 00:20:47,115
- [crying]
506
00:20:53,077 --> 00:20:55,863
- That's where we reveal what
the movie actually is.
507
00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,214
narrator:
Charlie's death triggers
508
00:20:59,258 --> 00:21:02,435
the already dysfunctional
family's collapse.
509
00:21:02,478 --> 00:21:04,132
- She's gone forever!
510
00:21:05,742 --> 00:21:08,310
And what a waste.
511
00:21:08,354 --> 00:21:11,052
If it could've maybe brought us
together or something.
512
00:21:11,095 --> 00:21:13,228
If you could've just said,
"I'm sorry,"
513
00:21:13,272 --> 00:21:15,317
or faced up to what happened,
514
00:21:15,361 --> 00:21:18,059
maybe then we could
do something with this,
515
00:21:18,102 --> 00:21:20,322
but you can't take
responsibility for anything!
516
00:21:20,366 --> 00:21:23,107
So now I can't accept.
517
00:21:23,151 --> 00:21:25,936
- There were just some horribly
518
00:21:25,980 --> 00:21:30,027
emotionally draining moments
where you--
519
00:21:30,071 --> 00:21:33,161
Toni Collette is so good
in that movie, and you just--
520
00:21:33,204 --> 00:21:35,642
all you wanna do is find a way
521
00:21:35,685 --> 00:21:37,339
for her to release her
of her pain.
522
00:21:37,383 --> 00:21:40,081
- [cries]
523
00:21:40,124 --> 00:21:41,648
- [crying]
524
00:21:41,691 --> 00:21:43,737
narrator: But pain
is precisely the emotion
525
00:21:43,780 --> 00:21:46,043
the witches use
to manipulate their victims.
526
00:21:46,087 --> 00:21:47,828
- [gasps]
527
00:21:47,871 --> 00:21:51,266
- The movie's about a family
that in many ways
528
00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:52,920
is kind of following each other
into madness,
529
00:21:52,963 --> 00:21:54,661
especially Toni Collette's
character
530
00:21:54,704 --> 00:21:56,358
and Alex Wolff's character.
531
00:21:56,402 --> 00:21:58,665
They're really kind of
pushing each other there.
532
00:21:58,708 --> 00:22:00,623
- Why did you try to kill me?
- I love you.
533
00:22:00,667 --> 00:22:02,233
I didn't!
I was trying to save you!
534
00:22:02,277 --> 00:22:06,368
- Why did you try to kill me?
[both crying]
535
00:22:06,412 --> 00:22:07,804
- You are sick.
536
00:22:07,848 --> 00:22:09,371
narrator: Once the coven
537
00:22:09,415 --> 00:22:11,155
has pushed the family
over the edge,
538
00:22:11,199 --> 00:22:13,593
the film explodes
into a supernatural orgy
539
00:22:13,636 --> 00:22:15,029
of violent death.
540
00:22:15,072 --> 00:22:18,162
- [screaming]
541
00:22:18,206 --> 00:22:20,208
- By the time
you get to the end
542
00:22:20,251 --> 00:22:21,862
of the movie,
543
00:22:21,905 --> 00:22:23,951
and Toni Collette's, like,
544
00:22:23,994 --> 00:22:27,302
levitating and sawing
her own head off
545
00:22:27,346 --> 00:22:29,913
with that horrifying look
on her face,
546
00:22:29,957 --> 00:22:32,568
[terrifying music]
547
00:22:32,612 --> 00:22:34,178
I didn't know what to do.
548
00:22:34,222 --> 00:22:36,093
Like, I didn't even know
where the movie was going.
549
00:22:36,137 --> 00:22:38,400
- [screams]
550
00:22:38,444 --> 00:22:40,184
[thump]
551
00:22:40,228 --> 00:22:42,361
- I love when movies, you know,
552
00:22:42,404 --> 00:22:45,712
kind of embrace
a more operatic sensibility.
553
00:22:45,755 --> 00:22:48,671
Why not just go off the rails
and just go there, you know?
554
00:22:48,715 --> 00:22:51,413
You know that you're gonna
be alienating
555
00:22:51,457 --> 00:22:54,024
a large section
of the audience,
556
00:22:54,068 --> 00:22:55,504
and you know that people are
kinda gonna get off the ride
557
00:22:55,548 --> 00:22:58,464
at that point, but for me...
558
00:22:58,507 --> 00:23:00,379
- Oh, my God.
- It's okay, it's okay.
559
00:23:00,422 --> 00:23:01,684
- I just didn't care.
560
00:23:01,728 --> 00:23:03,382
- It's okay, it's okay.
561
00:23:03,425 --> 00:23:04,948
narrator: Like the coven
in "Hereditary,"
562
00:23:04,992 --> 00:23:08,517
demonic women in "The Witch"
are rarely seen.
563
00:23:08,561 --> 00:23:09,953
- [grunts]
- [screaming]
564
00:23:09,997 --> 00:23:11,128
narrator:
But they know exactly
565
00:23:11,172 --> 00:23:12,782
how to drag a family to hell.
566
00:23:12,826 --> 00:23:14,654
- [bleating]
[both grunting]
567
00:23:21,617 --> 00:23:24,011
narrator: In colonial America,
568
00:23:24,054 --> 00:23:25,882
the face of a witch
often look like this...
569
00:23:25,926 --> 00:23:27,971
[tense music]
570
00:23:28,015 --> 00:23:30,060
The face of Thomasin,
571
00:23:30,104 --> 00:23:33,977
the teenage protagonist
of Robert Eggers' "The Witch."
572
00:23:34,021 --> 00:23:36,937
- Tell us why you
went to the wood.
573
00:23:36,980 --> 00:23:38,982
- I promise.
- I care not.
574
00:23:39,026 --> 00:23:42,072
♪
575
00:23:42,116 --> 00:23:45,946
- "The Witch"
is the scariest movie
576
00:23:45,989 --> 00:23:49,471
in its residual effect on me,
maybe ever.
577
00:23:49,515 --> 00:23:51,125
- [gasps]
578
00:23:51,168 --> 00:23:53,867
- I felt contaminated
579
00:23:53,910 --> 00:23:57,000
by the evil of that movie.
[laughs]
580
00:23:57,044 --> 00:23:59,916
♪
581
00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:02,266
narrator: Set in 1620,
582
00:24:02,310 --> 00:24:04,312
"The Witch" tells the tale
583
00:24:04,355 --> 00:24:07,184
of a family banished
from the Plymouth colony
584
00:24:07,228 --> 00:24:10,405
because the patriarch
is too unbendingly religious
585
00:24:10,449 --> 00:24:13,408
even for
his fellow Calvinists.
586
00:24:13,452 --> 00:24:17,412
The family sets up a homestead
in the wilds of New England,
587
00:24:17,456 --> 00:24:20,197
and are targeted
by the baby-killing witches
588
00:24:20,241 --> 00:24:21,634
that live in the woods.
589
00:24:21,677 --> 00:24:24,811
♪
590
00:24:24,854 --> 00:24:27,248
- Mmm, boo!
[laughs]
591
00:24:27,291 --> 00:24:28,771
[baby laughing]
There you are.
592
00:24:28,815 --> 00:24:32,035
There you are.
[chuckles]
593
00:24:32,079 --> 00:24:34,255
Mmm, boo!
594
00:24:35,561 --> 00:24:36,866
[eerie music]
595
00:24:36,910 --> 00:24:38,868
Sam?
596
00:24:38,912 --> 00:24:43,003
♪
597
00:24:43,046 --> 00:24:45,353
- When the baby disappears...
598
00:24:45,396 --> 00:24:48,356
you can imagine being
completely out there
599
00:24:48,399 --> 00:24:51,751
without any kind of real sort
of civilization around you,
600
00:24:51,794 --> 00:24:53,448
to sort help.
601
00:24:53,492 --> 00:24:55,624
It's just a few of you
and the family in the woods.
602
00:24:55,668 --> 00:24:58,627
♪
603
00:24:58,671 --> 00:25:00,542
- [barks]
604
00:25:00,586 --> 00:25:02,979
narrator: "The Witch" was shot
entirely in natural light.
605
00:25:03,023 --> 00:25:04,546
both: Black Phillip,
Black Phillip!
606
00:25:04,590 --> 00:25:06,156
narrator: With the actors
wearing costumes
607
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,419
made from
period appropriate fabrics.
608
00:25:08,463 --> 00:25:09,899
Everything feels real.
609
00:25:09,943 --> 00:25:11,640
- [sighs]
610
00:25:11,684 --> 00:25:14,817
- Black Phillip is the name
I give, he goes along with--
611
00:25:14,861 --> 00:25:17,385
- I cannot abide your songs.
- Please you, Mercy.
612
00:25:17,428 --> 00:25:19,343
narrator: Even the film's
dialogue is authentic,
613
00:25:19,387 --> 00:25:21,084
much it taken
614
00:25:21,128 --> 00:25:23,391
from actual transcripts
of the Salem Witch Trials.
615
00:25:23,434 --> 00:25:25,262
- Take your leave.
616
00:25:25,306 --> 00:25:26,612
♪
617
00:25:26,655 --> 00:25:28,091
- Free us from
the shaman's omen,
618
00:25:28,135 --> 00:25:31,051
would you do unto us, Father.
Amen.
619
00:25:31,094 --> 00:25:33,575
narrator: Thomasin lives in
a world of religious dread
620
00:25:33,619 --> 00:25:35,142
where Satan is real.
621
00:25:35,185 --> 00:25:36,665
- [grunts]
- [screams]
622
00:25:36,709 --> 00:25:38,928
narrator: Witches
are his unholy consults,
623
00:25:38,972 --> 00:25:41,844
and temptation and corruption
624
00:25:41,888 --> 00:25:44,412
lurk around every corner.
625
00:25:44,455 --> 00:25:47,415
[scary music]
626
00:25:47,458 --> 00:25:54,335
♪
627
00:25:56,424 --> 00:25:58,469
- [heavy breathing]
Come on.
628
00:25:58,513 --> 00:25:59,949
narrator:
After her young brother
629
00:25:59,993 --> 00:26:01,995
is seduced and murdered,
630
00:26:02,038 --> 00:26:04,954
the family begins to suspect
Thomasin is responsible.
631
00:26:04,998 --> 00:26:06,477
- [screams]
632
00:26:06,521 --> 00:26:07,957
narrator:
Her emergent womanhood
633
00:26:08,001 --> 00:26:10,133
is as unsettling to them
as Black Phillip,
634
00:26:10,177 --> 00:26:11,874
the Satanic goat.
635
00:26:11,918 --> 00:26:13,615
- Baa, baa, baa.
636
00:26:16,575 --> 00:26:18,968
- Horror loves to exaggerate.
637
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,104
So the idea of the girl
going through puberty
638
00:26:24,147 --> 00:26:26,236
as a source of horror...
639
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,411
- [heavy breathing]
640
00:26:27,455 --> 00:26:30,632
- And as a source
of female power
641
00:26:30,676 --> 00:26:33,592
is something that shows up
in a lot of horror films.
642
00:26:33,635 --> 00:26:35,506
- [cries]It is you!
643
00:26:35,550 --> 00:26:37,639
- [crying]
I am your daughter.
644
00:26:37,683 --> 00:26:40,947
- The devil is in theeand has had thee.
645
00:26:40,990 --> 00:26:45,691
- Here's this good person who
is being consumed by an evil
646
00:26:45,734 --> 00:26:47,867
that she cannot escape.
- [screaming]
647
00:26:47,910 --> 00:26:50,130
- She only wants to be good and
only wants to do what is right.
648
00:26:50,173 --> 00:26:52,785
- [heavy breathing]
649
00:26:52,828 --> 00:26:56,702
- And the idea of becoming
usurped by evil...
650
00:26:56,745 --> 00:26:59,095
- I am no witch.
651
00:26:59,139 --> 00:27:02,403
- Is one of the scariest ideas
that you can think of
652
00:27:02,446 --> 00:27:04,361
from a theological or religious
point of view.
653
00:27:04,405 --> 00:27:07,451
- Please, Father.No, it's not safe!
654
00:27:07,495 --> 00:27:10,367
- But at the same time
the movie is very critical
655
00:27:10,411 --> 00:27:13,283
in saying,
"This is what religion
656
00:27:13,327 --> 00:27:15,111
"and religious hysteria
657
00:27:15,155 --> 00:27:18,898
"and religious repression
also inevitably does
658
00:27:18,941 --> 00:27:21,465
to young agile minds."
659
00:27:21,509 --> 00:27:24,381
- Aah![grunts]
660
00:27:24,425 --> 00:27:26,035
narrator:
Betrayed by her family,
661
00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:28,211
Thomasin loses everything
662
00:27:28,255 --> 00:27:30,779
and must make
a terrible choice.
663
00:27:30,823 --> 00:27:32,694
♪
664
00:27:32,738 --> 00:27:35,958
- [whispering] Wouldst thou
like to live deliciously?
665
00:27:36,002 --> 00:27:37,786
- Yes.
666
00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:41,355
♪
667
00:27:41,398 --> 00:27:43,183
[women chanting]
668
00:27:43,226 --> 00:27:47,100
- I don't think joining a Satan
worshipping group of witches
669
00:27:47,143 --> 00:27:49,798
is seen as necessarily
a good thing...
670
00:27:49,842 --> 00:27:51,278
[women chanting]
671
00:27:51,321 --> 00:27:53,497
But the fact that
it's seen as preferable
672
00:27:53,541 --> 00:27:55,543
to the patriarchal society
that it was in
673
00:27:55,586 --> 00:27:57,632
is a much more
powerful damnation, I think,
674
00:27:57,676 --> 00:27:59,242
about society.
675
00:28:02,681 --> 00:28:06,554
- She ultimately gets
to have her power,
676
00:28:06,597 --> 00:28:09,731
um, and that ending is just
a great revelatory ending.
677
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,171
narrator: Some women
reluctantly become witches.
678
00:28:15,215 --> 00:28:16,738
[eerie chill blows]
679
00:28:16,782 --> 00:28:19,654
Others happily walk the path.
680
00:28:19,698 --> 00:28:22,788
[laughter]
681
00:28:28,141 --> 00:28:30,056
[chatter]
682
00:28:30,099 --> 00:28:32,058
narrator: The nice ladies
of the Royal Society
683
00:28:32,101 --> 00:28:34,451
for the Prevention
of Cruelty to Children
684
00:28:34,495 --> 00:28:36,671
are not
what they appear to be.
685
00:28:36,715 --> 00:28:38,455
- [grunts]
686
00:28:38,499 --> 00:28:41,328
narrator: They are, in fact,
child-hating monsters
687
00:28:41,371 --> 00:28:44,723
led by the diabolical
grand high witch...
688
00:28:44,766 --> 00:28:47,987
[dastardly music]
689
00:28:48,030 --> 00:28:52,121
A misshapen crone
without a drop of decency.
690
00:28:52,165 --> 00:28:57,518
- The witch who dares
to say I'm wrong
691
00:28:57,561 --> 00:28:59,825
will not be with us
692
00:28:59,868 --> 00:29:02,044
very long!
693
00:29:02,088 --> 00:29:03,742
- Aah!
694
00:29:03,785 --> 00:29:05,744
narrator:
Directed by Nicolas Roeg,
695
00:29:05,787 --> 00:29:08,050
produced by Jim Henson,
696
00:29:08,094 --> 00:29:10,705
and based on the book
by Roald Dahl,
697
00:29:10,749 --> 00:29:14,100
"The Witches" takes a very old
school view of the dark arts.
698
00:29:14,143 --> 00:29:16,058
[eerie music]
699
00:29:16,102 --> 00:29:18,800
- Roald Dahl and Nick Roeg
pulled no punches.
700
00:29:18,844 --> 00:29:21,934
Witches are evil;
they report to the devil...
701
00:29:21,977 --> 00:29:23,457
[eerie musical sting]
702
00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:25,328
They live to kill children.
703
00:29:25,372 --> 00:29:28,897
- Real witches have no toes.
704
00:29:28,941 --> 00:29:31,030
- The opening of "Witches"
705
00:29:31,073 --> 00:29:34,642
is this beautiful little
six-year-old girl...
706
00:29:34,685 --> 00:29:38,124
[dramatic music]
707
00:29:38,167 --> 00:29:39,821
Cursed into a painting.
708
00:29:39,865 --> 00:29:42,650
- Gazing at us.
709
00:29:42,693 --> 00:29:44,173
- Until she dies of old age,
710
00:29:44,217 --> 00:29:45,914
locked and trapped
in the painting.
711
00:29:45,958 --> 00:29:48,525
- One morning, she was gone.
712
00:29:48,569 --> 00:29:50,266
- It's really terrifying.
713
00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:53,313
- [gurgles]
714
00:29:53,356 --> 00:29:55,358
narrator:
Despite its dark undercurrent,
715
00:29:55,402 --> 00:29:57,143
"The Witches" is one
of those rare films
716
00:29:57,186 --> 00:29:59,493
that actually is fun
for the whole family.
717
00:29:59,536 --> 00:30:02,452
- [snarling]
[couple screaming]
718
00:30:02,496 --> 00:30:03,714
narrator: But in 1990,
719
00:30:03,758 --> 00:30:05,455
some were not amused.
720
00:30:05,499 --> 00:30:07,544
- Get the mice.
721
00:30:07,588 --> 00:30:09,459
- The Witches of America
or the Wiccans
722
00:30:09,503 --> 00:30:11,853
were protesting the movie
723
00:30:11,897 --> 00:30:14,160
for such a negative portrayal
of witches,
724
00:30:14,203 --> 00:30:15,422
and they're absolutely right.
725
00:30:15,465 --> 00:30:17,076
[laughter]
726
00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:18,860
Yeah, somebody goes and says,
"Witches, uh,
727
00:30:18,904 --> 00:30:20,514
those witches were really
negatively portrayed."
728
00:30:20,557 --> 00:30:22,211
Good, then,
let's have a conversation
729
00:30:22,255 --> 00:30:23,996
because that's the way
a lot of people used to feel.
730
00:30:24,039 --> 00:30:25,345
[laughs]
731
00:30:25,388 --> 00:30:26,955
- Bye.
732
00:30:26,999 --> 00:30:29,175
[laughs]
733
00:30:29,218 --> 00:30:30,350
- [laughs]
734
00:30:30,393 --> 00:30:32,047
- Why are you laughing?
735
00:30:32,091 --> 00:30:35,050
I'm not laughing.
736
00:30:35,094 --> 00:30:38,314
Is something suddenly funny?
737
00:30:38,358 --> 00:30:40,839
narrator: When it comes to
unrepentantly evil witches,
738
00:30:40,882 --> 00:30:43,319
Rob Zombie's
"The Lords of Salem"
739
00:30:43,363 --> 00:30:44,843
is hard to top.
740
00:30:44,886 --> 00:30:47,410
- Oh, that felt good.
741
00:30:47,454 --> 00:30:49,369
narrator:
These women come armed
742
00:30:49,412 --> 00:30:52,241
with a subversive message
about female power.
743
00:30:52,285 --> 00:30:55,592
- "Lords of Salem," I feel,
is Rob Zombie's best film.
744
00:30:55,636 --> 00:30:58,421
It's a really good story.
It's a nightmarish story.
745
00:30:58,465 --> 00:31:01,424
narrator: Sheri Moon Zombie
plays Heidi Hawthorne,
746
00:31:01,468 --> 00:31:04,079
a radio DJ
in Salem, Massachusetts.
747
00:31:04,123 --> 00:31:06,255
- I have no info
on where this came from.
748
00:31:06,299 --> 00:31:09,084
All I know is the group
is called The Lords.
749
00:31:09,128 --> 00:31:12,131
narrator: She's tricked into
playing a mysterious record
750
00:31:12,174 --> 00:31:14,568
that awakens
the latent witchiness
751
00:31:14,611 --> 00:31:16,787
in the women of Salem.
752
00:31:16,831 --> 00:31:19,007
Heidi's descent into darkness
753
00:31:19,051 --> 00:31:20,530
is sped along by the coven
754
00:31:20,574 --> 00:31:22,750
that lives
in her apartment building.
755
00:31:22,793 --> 00:31:26,058
- I came up with this coven
of witches in Salem...
756
00:31:26,101 --> 00:31:28,060
[crowd screaming]
757
00:31:28,103 --> 00:31:30,410
- That were destroyed
758
00:31:30,453 --> 00:31:33,239
by Jonathan Hawthorne,
759
00:31:33,282 --> 00:31:34,893
and then we jump to modern day
760
00:31:34,936 --> 00:31:37,373
where this modern day
coven of witches
761
00:31:37,417 --> 00:31:38,940
choose Heidi Hawthorne,
762
00:31:38,984 --> 00:31:40,333
who's a descendent
of Jonathan Hawthorne
763
00:31:40,376 --> 00:31:42,770
to be the--the vessel by which,
you know,
764
00:31:42,813 --> 00:31:45,381
the Antichrist comes back,
and the witches return.
765
00:31:45,425 --> 00:31:47,209
- [screaming]
766
00:31:47,253 --> 00:31:49,168
narrator:
Unlike most witch movies,
767
00:31:49,211 --> 00:31:51,953
"The Lords of Salem" is
actually on the side
768
00:31:51,997 --> 00:31:55,130
of the murderous witches and
their satanic agenda of evil.
769
00:31:55,174 --> 00:31:57,045
[laughter]
770
00:31:57,089 --> 00:31:59,178
- The witches are the heroes
in this one again, as usual.
771
00:31:59,221 --> 00:32:00,962
[laughs]
That's why I created
772
00:32:01,006 --> 00:32:03,225
the character of
the--Torsten played
773
00:32:03,269 --> 00:32:04,705
of the German
black metal guy
774
00:32:04,748 --> 00:32:06,141
ranting against Christianity
775
00:32:06,185 --> 00:32:07,795
just to get a little more
in there.
776
00:32:07,838 --> 00:32:10,537
[laughs]
Just to complain about it all.
777
00:32:10,580 --> 00:32:13,844
- Our philosophyis to expose the lies
778
00:32:13,888 --> 00:32:16,151
of the Christian whoresand Jesus,
779
00:32:16,195 --> 00:32:17,805
the true bringer of death.
780
00:32:17,848 --> 00:32:20,155
- [laughs]
781
00:32:20,199 --> 00:32:23,593
narrator: The men in the film
are secondary characters,
782
00:32:23,637 --> 00:32:25,247
oblivious to the deadly
783
00:32:25,291 --> 00:32:27,815
and very female energy
building up in Salem.
784
00:32:27,858 --> 00:32:30,731
[scary music]
785
00:32:30,774 --> 00:32:34,300
- I wanted the whole movie
to feel like it was a dream.
786
00:32:34,343 --> 00:32:37,085
Is this really happening, does
she think this is happening,
787
00:32:37,129 --> 00:32:38,913
is this just a drug dream,
or is she crazy?
788
00:32:38,957 --> 00:32:40,306
- [snarls]
- [screaming]
789
00:32:40,349 --> 00:32:41,655
[horrific musical sting]
790
00:32:41,698 --> 00:32:43,700
- [heavy breathing]
791
00:32:43,744 --> 00:32:46,181
♪
792
00:32:46,225 --> 00:32:48,488
narrator: The film culminates
with a hellish ceremony
793
00:32:48,531 --> 00:32:50,881
as the witches summon
the return of the Antichrist
794
00:32:50,925 --> 00:32:52,318
through Heidi.
795
00:32:52,361 --> 00:32:53,754
♪
796
00:32:53,797 --> 00:32:55,538
- I like the ending a lot,
797
00:32:55,582 --> 00:32:57,018
because I've always been a
big fan of Ken Russell movies,
798
00:32:57,062 --> 00:32:58,498
and I like crazy [bleep].
799
00:32:58,541 --> 00:33:00,456
- [speaking foreign language]
- [screams]
800
00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:03,024
- 'Cause I thought, like, well,
if--if you have someone
801
00:33:03,068 --> 00:33:05,984
who their entire soul
is being stripped away
802
00:33:06,027 --> 00:33:07,942
because they're being dragged
to hell by witches
803
00:33:07,986 --> 00:33:09,770
and forced to give birth
to Satan...
804
00:33:09,813 --> 00:33:11,206
[witches chanting]
805
00:33:11,250 --> 00:33:13,426
- What is that gonna look like?
[laughs]
806
00:33:13,469 --> 00:33:16,255
- In the burning rivers
of the dead.
807
00:33:18,257 --> 00:33:21,695
- Ultimately, we see this as
a kind of act of revenge
808
00:33:21,738 --> 00:33:24,524
against
this patriarchal culture
809
00:33:24,567 --> 00:33:27,048
that found women's power
threatening.
810
00:33:27,092 --> 00:33:28,789
[eerie music]
811
00:33:28,832 --> 00:33:30,182
And so it was this
812
00:33:30,225 --> 00:33:32,619
generations-long act
of revenge
813
00:33:32,662 --> 00:33:35,013
and sort of asserting
this power
814
00:33:35,056 --> 00:33:37,493
as something that can't
be contained so easily.
815
00:33:37,537 --> 00:33:39,713
♪
816
00:33:39,756 --> 00:33:42,107
- [laughs]
817
00:33:42,150 --> 00:33:44,805
narrator: If Rob Zombie's
"The Lords of Salem"
818
00:33:44,848 --> 00:33:46,285
is a black metal dirge...
819
00:33:46,328 --> 00:33:49,288
- [screaming]
820
00:33:49,331 --> 00:33:51,333
narrator:
Dario Argento's "Suspiria"
821
00:33:51,377 --> 00:33:53,640
is the witch movie
as high opera.
822
00:33:53,683 --> 00:33:56,164
- [screams]
823
00:33:56,208 --> 00:33:58,079
narrator: Filled with drama,
824
00:33:58,123 --> 00:34:01,909
music, color,
and unforgettable violence.
825
00:34:01,952 --> 00:34:03,737
- [laughs]
826
00:34:07,784 --> 00:34:10,396
[eerie music]
827
00:34:10,439 --> 00:34:13,355
narrator: In 1977's
"Suspiria"...
828
00:34:13,399 --> 00:34:15,140
♪
829
00:34:15,183 --> 00:34:18,230
Writer/director Dario Argento
combined witchcraft
830
00:34:18,273 --> 00:34:20,884
with a violent murder mystery.
831
00:34:20,928 --> 00:34:22,495
- Aah!
832
00:34:22,538 --> 00:34:24,018
narrator: To create
a dreamlike masterpiece
833
00:34:24,062 --> 00:34:26,151
of horror.
834
00:34:26,194 --> 00:34:28,109
- [squeaking]
835
00:34:28,153 --> 00:34:30,938
narrator: To this day, there's
nothing else quite like it.
836
00:34:30,981 --> 00:34:33,723
[loud droning music]
837
00:34:33,767 --> 00:34:35,812
- [screams]
838
00:34:35,856 --> 00:34:38,119
- "Suspiria" just
feels weird at all times.
839
00:34:38,163 --> 00:34:40,121
[thunder cracks]
840
00:34:40,165 --> 00:34:42,036
As soon as she walks
out of the airport,
841
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,386
the music's going, the wind's
blowing way too hard,
842
00:34:44,430 --> 00:34:45,866
and everything's,
like, psychedelic,
843
00:34:45,909 --> 00:34:47,781
you're like, "The [bleep]
is this crazy movie?"
844
00:34:47,824 --> 00:34:49,478
It's just so awesome.
845
00:34:49,522 --> 00:34:51,611
- You wouldn't understand.
846
00:34:51,654 --> 00:34:54,440
It all seemed so absurd.
847
00:34:54,483 --> 00:34:57,312
[eerie music]
848
00:34:57,356 --> 00:34:59,619
narrator: Suzy Bannion,
played by Jessica Harper,
849
00:34:59,662 --> 00:35:04,450
has come to Germany to attend
a prestigious dance academy.
850
00:35:04,493 --> 00:35:07,322
She enters a world
of supernatural terror.
851
00:35:08,628 --> 00:35:10,369
- [screaming]
852
00:35:10,412 --> 00:35:12,197
narrator:
And over the top violence.
853
00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:14,112
- [screaming]
854
00:35:14,155 --> 00:35:15,983
- The first, like,
ten minutes of "Suspiria"
855
00:35:16,026 --> 00:35:18,899
is really unsettling,
856
00:35:18,942 --> 00:35:22,511
and you don't really know thelogic of the universe we're in.
857
00:35:22,555 --> 00:35:26,733
The sets are kinda, like,
fantastical and amazing.
858
00:35:26,776 --> 00:35:28,256
- [screams]
859
00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:30,606
- Incredible eye candy,
incredible music.
860
00:35:30,650 --> 00:35:32,173
- [screams]
861
00:35:32,217 --> 00:35:33,305
- And also the shocks are--
862
00:35:33,348 --> 00:35:35,872
it's so extravagant and gory
863
00:35:35,916 --> 00:35:37,483
and unsettling.
864
00:35:37,526 --> 00:35:40,312
- [screaming]
865
00:35:49,495 --> 00:35:51,497
narrator: After traumatizing
the audience
866
00:35:51,540 --> 00:35:53,760
with a brutal double murder,
867
00:35:53,803 --> 00:35:56,850
Argento follows Suzy
into the academy.
868
00:35:56,893 --> 00:35:59,200
- Suzy Bannion,
our new student.
869
00:35:59,244 --> 00:36:01,071
- Oh, yes.
870
00:36:01,115 --> 00:36:03,813
narrator: Suzy becomes the
target of the sinister witches
871
00:36:03,857 --> 00:36:05,293
who run the school.
872
00:36:05,337 --> 00:36:08,992
[unsettling music]
873
00:36:09,036 --> 00:36:13,301
♪
874
00:36:13,345 --> 00:36:15,347
- Witch!
875
00:36:15,390 --> 00:36:20,134
♪
876
00:36:20,178 --> 00:36:23,529
- One of the really notable
elements of "Suspiria"
877
00:36:23,572 --> 00:36:27,054
that is more contemporary than
at the time the movie was made
878
00:36:27,097 --> 00:36:30,275
is that it is female-centric.
879
00:36:30,318 --> 00:36:33,974
The protagonists and the
antagonists are all female.
880
00:36:34,017 --> 00:36:38,370
- There isn't a patriarchal
oppressor in "Suspiria."
881
00:36:38,413 --> 00:36:40,023
- [speaking foreign language]
Who's there?
882
00:36:40,067 --> 00:36:41,721
- The power of this movie
is matriarchy,
883
00:36:41,764 --> 00:36:44,985
and the hero's journey of it
884
00:36:45,028 --> 00:36:47,466
will have nothing to do
with a woman
885
00:36:47,509 --> 00:36:51,078
standing in the face
of a man trying to oppress her
886
00:36:51,121 --> 00:36:52,514
or hurt her
887
00:36:52,558 --> 00:36:54,734
because we actually don't even
have to consider
888
00:36:54,777 --> 00:36:56,866
the rules and world
of men at all.
889
00:36:56,910 --> 00:36:58,564
- Witch!
890
00:36:58,607 --> 00:37:01,262
- They're outside
of all of our concerns here.
891
00:37:01,306 --> 00:37:03,438
♪
892
00:37:03,482 --> 00:37:05,397
- Witch!
893
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,617
narrator: In "Suspiria," plot
takes a back seat to style.
894
00:37:08,661 --> 00:37:10,184
- [gasps]
895
00:37:10,228 --> 00:37:13,405
[screaming]
896
00:37:13,448 --> 00:37:15,668
narrator: The film is like
a surreal nightmare
897
00:37:15,711 --> 00:37:18,236
filled with gorgeously
photographed murders
898
00:37:18,279 --> 00:37:21,587
set to a heart-pounding
and groundbreaking soundtrack
899
00:37:21,630 --> 00:37:23,937
by the band Goblin.
900
00:37:23,980 --> 00:37:26,940
[tense music]
901
00:37:26,983 --> 00:37:30,639
♪
902
00:37:30,683 --> 00:37:33,729
- In terms upsetting some of
the conventions
903
00:37:33,773 --> 00:37:35,253
of film scoring,
904
00:37:35,296 --> 00:37:37,690
I think "Suspiria's"
a really good example...
905
00:37:37,733 --> 00:37:39,344
- [screaming]
906
00:37:39,387 --> 00:37:41,084
- Because a lot of the time,
907
00:37:41,128 --> 00:37:42,956
the music really
takes a central,
908
00:37:42,999 --> 00:37:44,697
kind of forefront position.
909
00:37:44,740 --> 00:37:47,613
- [screaming]
910
00:37:49,658 --> 00:37:53,575
- And I think a lot of the
negative response to that film
911
00:37:53,619 --> 00:37:56,404
is his aestheticization
912
00:37:56,448 --> 00:37:59,364
of these really horrific
acts of violence.
913
00:37:59,407 --> 00:38:02,323
- [screaming]
914
00:38:05,195 --> 00:38:07,502
[horrific musical sting]
915
00:38:10,505 --> 00:38:11,898
- What Dario Argento
was really doing,
916
00:38:11,941 --> 00:38:13,378
he was making
an adult fairy tale.
917
00:38:15,205 --> 00:38:18,426
It's amazing to see that
his inspiration for it
918
00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:20,298
was "Snow White
and the Seven Dwarves."
919
00:38:20,341 --> 00:38:23,170
[thunder cracks]
920
00:38:23,213 --> 00:38:26,216
He wanted the color scheme
of a Disney film,
921
00:38:26,260 --> 00:38:28,349
and he--he got it.
- [gasps]
922
00:38:28,393 --> 00:38:30,351
- It's another externalization
923
00:38:30,395 --> 00:38:32,658
of the fears and the anxieties
924
00:38:32,701 --> 00:38:34,877
that the main character
is going through.
925
00:38:34,921 --> 00:38:36,531
- [screams]
926
00:38:36,575 --> 00:38:38,359
- It really was supposed to be,
like, a fairy tale,
927
00:38:38,403 --> 00:38:41,797
and originally he wanted young
children to be in the film.
928
00:38:41,841 --> 00:38:45,018
He's got the door handles
really high on the doors
929
00:38:45,061 --> 00:38:46,846
because he wanted to create
certain things
930
00:38:46,889 --> 00:38:49,631
that it seemed as though they
were little girls in some way.
931
00:38:49,675 --> 00:38:51,241
♪
932
00:38:51,285 --> 00:38:53,113
narrator: Eventually,
933
00:38:53,156 --> 00:38:56,334
Suzy uncovers the dark secrets
of the academy.
934
00:38:56,377 --> 00:38:58,858
[suspenseful music]
935
00:38:58,901 --> 00:39:00,729
And she fights for her life
936
00:39:00,773 --> 00:39:02,470
against the coven's
invisible queen
937
00:39:02,514 --> 00:39:04,298
and her zombie slave.
938
00:39:05,908 --> 00:39:09,085
- [laughing]
939
00:39:11,653 --> 00:39:13,351
narrator:
Like a fairy tale,
940
00:39:13,394 --> 00:39:15,614
good ultimately triumphs
over evil.
941
00:39:15,657 --> 00:39:17,442
- [shouts]
942
00:39:17,485 --> 00:39:19,748
- [agonized moaning]
943
00:39:19,792 --> 00:39:21,533
- [gasps]
944
00:39:21,576 --> 00:39:24,884
- That movie was taking
the modern slasher genre
945
00:39:24,927 --> 00:39:27,147
and turning it into high art,
946
00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:29,410
and I feel like
the horror genre
947
00:39:29,454 --> 00:39:32,370
is just now really beginning
to catch up
948
00:39:32,413 --> 00:39:33,719
with the simple idea
949
00:39:33,762 --> 00:39:36,635
of high aspirational art
950
00:39:36,678 --> 00:39:38,506
in American horror cinema.
951
00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:41,422
[chilling music]
952
00:39:41,466 --> 00:39:43,642
♪
953
00:39:43,685 --> 00:39:47,428
Luca Guadagnino's recent
update of "Suspiria"
954
00:39:47,472 --> 00:39:51,214
swaps Argento's bright colors
for muted earth tones,
955
00:39:51,258 --> 00:39:53,086
and a serpentine plot.
956
00:39:53,129 --> 00:39:54,653
♪
957
00:39:54,696 --> 00:39:56,959
- I like the original
"Suspiria,"
958
00:39:57,003 --> 00:39:58,570
just 'cause it's gorgeous,
959
00:39:58,613 --> 00:40:00,310
but I will say in the remake,
960
00:40:00,354 --> 00:40:02,095
I felt like they made much
better use of the dancing.
961
00:40:02,138 --> 00:40:04,402
[eerie piano music]
962
00:40:04,445 --> 00:40:06,882
- [moaning and crying]
963
00:40:06,926 --> 00:40:09,798
[eerie music]
964
00:40:09,842 --> 00:40:11,931
♪
965
00:40:11,974 --> 00:40:15,108
narrator: Rather than pitting
Suzy against the witches,
966
00:40:15,151 --> 00:40:18,067
Guadagnino puts her
in the middle of a battle
967
00:40:18,111 --> 00:40:20,548
in between Madame Blanc
and Helena Markos,
968
00:40:20,592 --> 00:40:24,465
good and evil witches
vying to run the academy.
969
00:40:24,509 --> 00:40:26,424
[horrific musical sting]
- [screams]
970
00:40:26,467 --> 00:40:28,817
[scary music]
971
00:40:28,861 --> 00:40:30,689
- I liked that struggle
for power
972
00:40:30,732 --> 00:40:33,300
between these
two feminine forces.
973
00:40:33,343 --> 00:40:36,085
You have essentially, like,
an election drama
974
00:40:36,129 --> 00:40:38,827
between Markos and Blanc
975
00:40:38,871 --> 00:40:42,091
that culminates
in a black Sabbath scene
976
00:40:42,135 --> 00:40:43,832
that's like,
"Yeah, give me election drama
977
00:40:43,876 --> 00:40:46,269
"with people's heads literally
exploding off their bodies
978
00:40:46,313 --> 00:40:48,837
in a chamber covered
in women's hair."
979
00:40:52,058 --> 00:40:54,016
I'll watch that seven
out of seven days a week.
980
00:40:54,060 --> 00:40:55,496
- [moans]
981
00:40:55,540 --> 00:40:58,107
♪
982
00:40:58,151 --> 00:41:00,545
- It's not common
in other genres
983
00:41:00,588 --> 00:41:04,113
to see women as
powerful and dangerous.
984
00:41:04,157 --> 00:41:05,288
- Find him.
985
00:41:05,332 --> 00:41:07,377
- [screams]
986
00:41:07,421 --> 00:41:10,685
- And to watch them take back
that power and use it
987
00:41:10,729 --> 00:41:12,426
to break free
988
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:14,776
is really exciting.
989
00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:16,517
narrator: Young
990
00:41:16,561 --> 00:41:18,127
or old,
991
00:41:18,171 --> 00:41:20,695
cruel or kind,
992
00:41:20,739 --> 00:41:24,656
witches embody the magic
and mystery of femininity.
993
00:41:26,571 --> 00:41:27,833
They command our respect.
994
00:41:27,876 --> 00:41:29,530
- Oh, God!
995
00:41:29,574 --> 00:41:31,314
narrator: And remind us
996
00:41:31,358 --> 00:41:32,925
that the people who brought us
into this world...
997
00:41:34,666 --> 00:41:36,319
Can also take us out of it.
998
00:41:36,363 --> 00:41:37,973
- You're doomed forever!
999
00:41:38,017 --> 00:41:39,497
- [screams]
1000
00:41:39,540 --> 00:41:42,369
- [screams]
[thumps]
71399
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