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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:01,218 --> 00:00:03,742 - By the pricking of my thumbs, 2 00:00:03,786 --> 00:00:06,441 something wicked this way comes. 3 00:00:06,484 --> 00:00:08,399 [laughter] 4 00:00:08,443 --> 00:00:10,140 - [gasps] 5 00:00:10,184 --> 00:00:11,620 male narrator: Who's afraid of a wicked witch? 6 00:00:11,663 --> 00:00:13,187 - [laughs] [both screaming] 7 00:00:13,230 --> 00:00:15,102 narrator: Everybody. 8 00:00:15,145 --> 00:00:16,799 - "The Witch" is a perfect example 9 00:00:16,842 --> 00:00:18,540 of an atmospheric horror movie. 10 00:00:18,583 --> 00:00:20,150 - [growls] 11 00:00:20,194 --> 00:00:21,804 - It was one of the scariest films I've ever seen. 12 00:00:21,847 --> 00:00:23,197 - [screams] 13 00:00:23,240 --> 00:00:24,676 - Sometimes an evil witch 14 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:26,287 is just gonna come back and haunt you. 15 00:00:26,330 --> 00:00:28,158 - [screams] 16 00:00:28,202 --> 00:00:29,725 - What are you gonna do? 17 00:00:29,768 --> 00:00:32,641 - Hello? - [screams] 18 00:00:32,684 --> 00:00:34,034 - Who would've thought "The Blair Witch Project" 19 00:00:34,077 --> 00:00:35,687 would work the way that it was. 20 00:00:35,731 --> 00:00:37,602 It's disturbing. 21 00:00:37,646 --> 00:00:41,215 - I mean, this was kamikaze filmmaking at its greatest. 22 00:00:41,258 --> 00:00:42,738 It changed filmmaking. 23 00:00:42,781 --> 00:00:44,957 [scary music] 24 00:00:45,001 --> 00:00:48,396 - And it's always been that the witch has negative intentions. 25 00:00:48,439 --> 00:00:51,964 She's punished at some point for having the power. 26 00:00:52,008 --> 00:00:53,531 - You're a witch. 27 00:00:53,575 --> 00:00:54,924 - A solitary witch is one thing, 28 00:00:54,967 --> 00:00:57,361 but a group a women working together 29 00:00:57,405 --> 00:00:59,407 creating power that's more than the sum of its parts, 30 00:00:59,450 --> 00:01:02,149 is just... 31 00:01:02,192 --> 00:01:03,889 exhilarating. 32 00:01:03,933 --> 00:01:06,109 [cheers and applause] 33 00:01:06,153 --> 00:01:09,112 - We were one of the first new waves of bringing witchcraft 34 00:01:09,156 --> 00:01:11,419 and paganism to the future. 35 00:01:11,462 --> 00:01:12,942 [glass breaking] - Aah! 36 00:01:12,985 --> 00:01:15,075 - "Suspiria" just feels weird at all times. 37 00:01:15,118 --> 00:01:16,467 - [screams] 38 00:01:16,511 --> 00:01:18,948 - It's just so awesome. 39 00:01:18,991 --> 00:01:21,124 - We don't have consider the rules and world of men at all. 40 00:01:21,168 --> 00:01:22,865 - [grunts] - Aah! 41 00:01:22,908 --> 00:01:25,389 - They're outside of all of our concerns here. 42 00:01:25,433 --> 00:01:26,956 [screaming] 43 00:01:26,999 --> 00:01:28,958 ♪ 44 00:01:29,001 --> 00:01:30,655 - [laughs] 45 00:01:31,917 --> 00:01:34,833 [eerie music] 46 00:01:34,877 --> 00:01:41,797 ♪ 47 00:01:42,537 --> 00:01:44,104 - [screams] 48 00:02:01,295 --> 00:02:02,905 narrator: The witch is a towering figure 49 00:02:02,948 --> 00:02:04,167 in the history of horror. 50 00:02:04,211 --> 00:02:05,734 [voices moaning] 51 00:02:05,777 --> 00:02:07,475 narrator: The archetypical evil witch 52 00:02:07,518 --> 00:02:08,954 is everything mainstream religion 53 00:02:08,998 --> 00:02:11,479 tells us a woman should not be: 54 00:02:11,522 --> 00:02:15,309 a Satan-worshipping, baby-killing predator 55 00:02:15,352 --> 00:02:17,572 who fears neither God nor man. 56 00:02:17,615 --> 00:02:19,443 - [laughs] 57 00:02:19,487 --> 00:02:21,706 narrator: Like all good monsters, 58 00:02:21,750 --> 00:02:23,665 a bad witch does whatever she likes 59 00:02:23,708 --> 00:02:25,101 whenever she likes. 60 00:02:25,145 --> 00:02:28,365 [laughter] 61 00:02:28,409 --> 00:02:30,150 That unapologetic, 62 00:02:30,193 --> 00:02:32,456 very female power 63 00:02:32,500 --> 00:02:34,502 frightens men and fascinates women. 64 00:02:34,545 --> 00:02:36,678 ♪ 65 00:02:36,721 --> 00:02:40,160 In real life, witches were non-conformist women 66 00:02:40,203 --> 00:02:43,075 persecuted by religious fanatics. 67 00:02:43,119 --> 00:02:45,817 They suffered horrible deaths for their imagined crimes. 68 00:02:45,861 --> 00:02:47,689 - [screaming] 69 00:02:49,778 --> 00:02:52,128 narrator: Perhaps society's collective guilt 70 00:02:52,172 --> 00:02:54,086 fuels the stories we tell 71 00:02:54,130 --> 00:02:56,219 about witches who come back for revenge. 72 00:02:56,263 --> 00:02:59,091 [scary music] 73 00:02:59,135 --> 00:03:00,919 - Oh, dear God! 74 00:03:00,963 --> 00:03:03,313 narrator: Sometimes the vengeful witches you don't see 75 00:03:03,357 --> 00:03:05,054 are the most terrifying, 76 00:03:05,097 --> 00:03:07,056 and there few better examples 77 00:03:07,099 --> 00:03:08,971 than "The Blair Witch Project." 78 00:03:09,014 --> 00:03:12,322 - [Bleep]! Go! [screaming] Oh, God! 79 00:03:12,366 --> 00:03:14,498 [screams] 80 00:03:14,542 --> 00:03:16,413 - Who would've thought "The Blair Witch Project" 81 00:03:16,457 --> 00:03:18,198 would work the way that it was. 82 00:03:18,241 --> 00:03:20,852 The first time I saw that movie, I was in the hospital, 83 00:03:20,896 --> 00:03:22,202 and I was doped up. 84 00:03:22,245 --> 00:03:24,334 My son brought a VHS tape of it, 85 00:03:24,378 --> 00:03:25,944 and he said, "You gotta watch this." 86 00:03:25,988 --> 00:03:27,337 Halfway through it, I said, 87 00:03:27,381 --> 00:03:28,947 "Turn it off, it's too freaky. I can't." 88 00:03:28,991 --> 00:03:31,428 - Oh, my God, what the [bleep] is that? 89 00:03:31,472 --> 00:03:33,822 What the [bleep] is that? 90 00:03:33,865 --> 00:03:35,389 - I had the same experience. 91 00:03:35,432 --> 00:03:37,478 I was like, "I have to turn the lights on." 92 00:03:37,521 --> 00:03:39,349 I was so disturbedby the end of the movie. 93 00:03:39,393 --> 00:03:40,959 - It's disturbing. That's right. 94 00:03:41,003 --> 00:03:42,047 - I was, like,I get chills thinking about 95 00:03:42,091 --> 00:03:43,310 how scared I was. - Yeah. 96 00:03:43,353 --> 00:03:45,094 - [heavy breathing] - Come on! 97 00:03:45,137 --> 00:03:46,791 I hear him downstairs! 98 00:03:48,576 --> 00:03:53,189 - In "The Blair Witch Project," the witch, 99 00:03:53,233 --> 00:03:56,497 it feels like it's everywhere. 100 00:03:56,540 --> 00:03:58,586 - Hello? 101 00:03:58,629 --> 00:04:01,197 - It's almost like the woods itself is the witch. 102 00:04:01,241 --> 00:04:04,374 There's not just this one mysterious figure 103 00:04:04,418 --> 00:04:05,723 that shows up. 104 00:04:05,767 --> 00:04:08,465 The entire experience is mysterious. 105 00:04:11,860 --> 00:04:13,078 - All right, come on. Into the house. 106 00:04:13,122 --> 00:04:14,732 Come on. Come on. 107 00:04:14,776 --> 00:04:16,343 narrator: "The Blair Witch Project" 108 00:04:16,386 --> 00:04:18,693 wasn't the first found footage movie ever made, 109 00:04:18,736 --> 00:04:21,826 but it was the first to become a massive hit. 110 00:04:21,870 --> 00:04:24,307 - We have these three film students 111 00:04:24,351 --> 00:04:27,310 going off into the woods to make a documentary 112 00:04:27,354 --> 00:04:30,182 about what they believe is an urban legend 113 00:04:30,226 --> 00:04:31,619 of the Blair Witch. 114 00:04:31,662 --> 00:04:33,142 - Have you heard of the Blair Witch? 115 00:04:33,185 --> 00:04:35,318 - Oh, yeah. That's an old, old, old story. 116 00:04:35,362 --> 00:04:37,189 - So from the very beginning, 117 00:04:37,233 --> 00:04:40,671 the interviews with the townspeople are all credible. 118 00:04:40,715 --> 00:04:42,978 These don't look like actors. 119 00:04:43,021 --> 00:04:45,110 These look like just people you would meet on the street. 120 00:04:45,154 --> 00:04:47,809 And that crew is every bit as annoying... 121 00:04:47,852 --> 00:04:49,550 [laughs] 122 00:04:49,593 --> 00:04:51,552 As you might imagine a crew in real life might be. 123 00:04:51,595 --> 00:04:53,162 - Oh, he licked it. God bless him. 124 00:04:53,205 --> 00:04:54,598 - Yeah, there we go. 125 00:04:54,642 --> 00:04:57,775 - They didn't cast, like, CW-type hunky leads. 126 00:04:57,819 --> 00:05:00,082 They were, you know, the schlubs next door 127 00:05:00,125 --> 00:05:03,041 or the people in the dorm room next to you. 128 00:05:03,085 --> 00:05:04,739 - Packs are on. - We're rocking. 129 00:05:04,782 --> 00:05:06,349 - We're ready to go. - Let's rock. 130 00:05:06,393 --> 00:05:08,917 - All I knew when I was gunning for the job 131 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,267 and--and--and when I first got hired was, 132 00:05:11,311 --> 00:05:14,488 it was a movie about three student filmmakers 133 00:05:14,531 --> 00:05:16,185 who went out in the woods 134 00:05:16,228 --> 00:05:18,492 to investigate the legend of the Blair Witch, 135 00:05:18,535 --> 00:05:20,363 and they went missing. 136 00:05:20,407 --> 00:05:22,147 - Actors Heather Donahue, Josh Leonard, 137 00:05:22,191 --> 00:05:24,106 and Mike Williams 138 00:05:24,149 --> 00:05:26,717 were given film equipment and a loose set of instructions, 139 00:05:26,761 --> 00:05:29,981 then sent off into the woods. 140 00:05:30,025 --> 00:05:33,507 - So they wanted to keep it as naturalistic as possible. 141 00:05:33,550 --> 00:05:36,423 It is the three of us filming each other 142 00:05:36,466 --> 00:05:38,729 and recording sound of each other 143 00:05:38,773 --> 00:05:43,081 and we would have no direct interaction 144 00:05:43,125 --> 00:05:45,345 with the directors of the film while we were making it. 145 00:05:47,390 --> 00:05:51,612 They gave us a GPS, and they had programmed in waypoints 146 00:05:51,655 --> 00:05:54,049 which were hatch marks on the map, 147 00:05:54,092 --> 00:05:57,357 and we were to find our way to these different waypoints. 148 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,707 So we knew we were gonna encounter things; 149 00:05:59,750 --> 00:06:01,839 we just didn't know what those things were gonna be. 150 00:06:01,883 --> 00:06:03,667 - What? 151 00:06:03,711 --> 00:06:05,756 - Some of your stuff is hanging all over the ground! 152 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,324 - No way. 153 00:06:08,368 --> 00:06:11,022 - They're all over the place. - Holy [bleep]. 154 00:06:11,066 --> 00:06:14,025 - The special effects, if you wanna call it that, 155 00:06:14,069 --> 00:06:17,072 rocks and twigs, you know? [laughs] 156 00:06:17,115 --> 00:06:19,727 Things hanging in the woods are so simple 157 00:06:19,770 --> 00:06:22,251 that they feel true. 158 00:06:22,294 --> 00:06:24,035 They don't feel like something that, you know, 159 00:06:24,079 --> 00:06:26,516 a set designer's gonna come up with. 160 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,736 - Hello? 161 00:06:28,779 --> 00:06:31,565 - They find clues that the Blair Witch might be real. 162 00:06:31,608 --> 00:06:33,436 - You don't think this is strange? 163 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,569 - They start to be kind of stalked. 164 00:06:35,612 --> 00:06:37,527 They find themselves lost in the woods, 165 00:06:37,571 --> 00:06:39,311 and it seems to be due to a supernatural force. 166 00:06:39,355 --> 00:06:40,530 - [cries] 167 00:06:40,574 --> 00:06:41,879 - They start to act irrationally. 168 00:06:41,923 --> 00:06:44,055 - Help! 169 00:06:44,099 --> 00:06:45,361 - They end up going in circles. 170 00:06:45,405 --> 00:06:47,015 - Turn that thing off! - [Bleep]. 171 00:06:47,058 --> 00:06:48,712 - Then they start getting picked off 172 00:06:48,756 --> 00:06:50,584 kind of one by one. 173 00:06:50,627 --> 00:06:52,673 - [heavy breathing] - Come on! 174 00:06:52,716 --> 00:06:54,805 Josh! 175 00:06:54,849 --> 00:06:56,590 - In the end of course, they're all dead. 176 00:06:56,633 --> 00:06:58,505 [thumps] 177 00:06:58,548 --> 00:07:02,073 And that's how the footage supposedly came to us. 178 00:07:02,117 --> 00:07:06,338 - [heavy breathing] 179 00:07:06,382 --> 00:07:09,907 - It's that beautiful moment when she's on the ground, 180 00:07:09,951 --> 00:07:12,257 and she's weeping and shuddering... 181 00:07:12,301 --> 00:07:14,825 that actress was terrified 182 00:07:14,869 --> 00:07:17,262 and put all of that work into the camera, 183 00:07:17,306 --> 00:07:18,307 and it came right at us, 184 00:07:18,350 --> 00:07:20,396 and we wanted to help her. 185 00:07:21,876 --> 00:07:25,749 - I'm scared to close my eyes. 186 00:07:25,793 --> 00:07:27,708 I'm scared to open them. 187 00:07:27,751 --> 00:07:30,493 - I think without Heather's monologue 188 00:07:30,537 --> 00:07:32,756 and that weird framingof that shot, 189 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,411 I don't think the film works. 190 00:07:35,455 --> 00:07:38,936 - I am so, so sorry. 191 00:07:38,980 --> 00:07:40,677 [whimpering] 192 00:07:40,721 --> 00:07:43,506 - I think that very iconic moment made the film, 193 00:07:43,550 --> 00:07:45,073 and added so many stakes 194 00:07:45,116 --> 00:07:46,988 and so much relatability to the film, 195 00:07:47,031 --> 00:07:50,121 and Mike and I had no idea 196 00:07:50,165 --> 00:07:51,688 that she filmed that 197 00:07:51,732 --> 00:07:53,168 until we saw it for the first time in a theater. 198 00:07:53,211 --> 00:07:55,605 - I'm gonna die out here. 199 00:07:55,649 --> 00:07:58,303 ♪ 200 00:07:58,347 --> 00:08:00,828 narrator: Made for $60,000, 201 00:08:00,871 --> 00:08:03,874 "The Blair Witch Project" grossed $250 million 202 00:08:03,918 --> 00:08:05,136 at the box office. 203 00:08:05,180 --> 00:08:06,877 - [heavy breathing] 204 00:08:06,921 --> 00:08:08,879 - It was the first movie that used the internet 205 00:08:08,923 --> 00:08:10,881 to sell tickets basically, 206 00:08:10,925 --> 00:08:13,231 to use the internet to create a marketing campaign, 207 00:08:13,275 --> 00:08:14,668 and it was brilliant. 208 00:08:14,711 --> 00:08:16,408 It had never been attempted before. 209 00:08:16,452 --> 00:08:19,455 narrator: The film was marketed as a true story, 210 00:08:19,499 --> 00:08:22,066 a deception supported by a convincing website. 211 00:08:24,591 --> 00:08:26,114 - I thought that film was real. 212 00:08:27,419 --> 00:08:29,596 I walked out of there going, 213 00:08:29,639 --> 00:08:31,336 "We have to find-- we have to find these people. 214 00:08:31,380 --> 00:08:33,034 Where are they?" 215 00:08:33,077 --> 00:08:35,340 - I hear him. I hear him. 216 00:08:35,384 --> 00:08:37,255 I hear you. Josh! 217 00:08:37,299 --> 00:08:38,692 - It feels like you're there. 218 00:08:38,735 --> 00:08:40,432 It feels like something that would happen. 219 00:08:40,476 --> 00:08:41,825 - [screams] 220 00:08:41,869 --> 00:08:44,393 - "Blair Witch" nailed it. 221 00:08:44,436 --> 00:08:48,049 - [screaming] [thumps] 222 00:08:50,268 --> 00:08:52,706 narrator: "Blair Witch" is part of a long tradition 223 00:08:52,749 --> 00:08:56,013 of treating witchcraft as a force of evil, 224 00:08:56,057 --> 00:08:57,754 but some movies show us 225 00:08:57,798 --> 00:08:59,887 witchcraft can be a force for good 226 00:08:59,930 --> 00:09:01,541 if it's in the right hands. 227 00:09:01,584 --> 00:09:03,760 - [screaming] 228 00:09:11,246 --> 00:09:13,857 narrator: In the movies, witches wear many faces. 229 00:09:13,901 --> 00:09:15,206 [scary music] 230 00:09:15,250 --> 00:09:17,644 Ugly and beautiful. 231 00:09:17,687 --> 00:09:20,603 Repellent and irresistible. 232 00:09:20,647 --> 00:09:22,518 ♪ 233 00:09:22,562 --> 00:09:26,566 But for most people, the all-time iconic witch 234 00:09:26,609 --> 00:09:28,393 arrived in 1939, 235 00:09:28,437 --> 00:09:31,266 in the form of actress Margaret Hamilton. 236 00:09:31,309 --> 00:09:33,703 ♪ 237 00:09:33,747 --> 00:09:36,184 - If we were doing a Rorschach test and you said witch, 238 00:09:36,227 --> 00:09:38,621 the first thing I would say back to you 239 00:09:38,665 --> 00:09:40,667 is the Wicked Witch of the West in "The Wizard of Oz," 240 00:09:40,710 --> 00:09:44,061 a film that millions upon millions of people have seen. 241 00:09:44,105 --> 00:09:46,237 ♪ 242 00:09:46,281 --> 00:09:49,327 I think she is the personification of a witch. 243 00:09:49,371 --> 00:09:51,765 - I'll get you, my pretty, 244 00:09:51,808 --> 00:09:54,028 and your little dog too! [cackles] 245 00:09:54,071 --> 00:09:56,639 narrator: The merciless Wicked Witch of the West 246 00:09:56,683 --> 00:09:58,728 is one of the most recognizable creations 247 00:09:58,772 --> 00:10:01,601 in cinema. 248 00:10:01,644 --> 00:10:05,082 Green face, hook nose, pointed chin-- 249 00:10:05,126 --> 00:10:08,303 she represents one of the oldest villains of folklore: 250 00:10:08,346 --> 00:10:09,739 the evil crone. 251 00:10:09,783 --> 00:10:12,350 - [laughs] - Oh! 252 00:10:12,394 --> 00:10:14,875 narrator: And like many horror archetypes, 253 00:10:14,918 --> 00:10:17,268 she's the product of cultural anxiety. 254 00:10:17,312 --> 00:10:21,359 - [laughing] 255 00:10:21,403 --> 00:10:24,275 - Aging, especially for women, is terrifying. 256 00:10:24,319 --> 00:10:27,496 If our bodies are our primary form of currency, 257 00:10:27,539 --> 00:10:30,804 then as we age, we lose value. 258 00:10:30,847 --> 00:10:34,285 One way that women are kind of contained in society 259 00:10:34,329 --> 00:10:36,723 is by being expected to focus on being appealing 260 00:10:36,766 --> 00:10:39,377 and so the crone is terrifying 261 00:10:39,421 --> 00:10:41,075 because she has no interest in that. 262 00:10:42,772 --> 00:10:45,470 - Aah! 263 00:10:45,514 --> 00:10:47,734 [mysterious music] 264 00:10:47,777 --> 00:10:50,214 - [barking] 265 00:10:50,258 --> 00:10:51,999 narrator: But in the modern times, 266 00:10:52,042 --> 00:10:55,089 witches have become dynamic figures of female power. 267 00:10:55,132 --> 00:10:57,918 [laughter] 268 00:10:57,961 --> 00:11:00,747 Like the glamorous Witches of Eastwick. 269 00:11:00,790 --> 00:11:04,141 [laughter] 270 00:11:04,185 --> 00:11:06,100 [whimsical music] 271 00:11:06,143 --> 00:11:09,669 Repressed women liberated when they embrace their passions. 272 00:11:09,712 --> 00:11:12,541 [dramatic music] 273 00:11:12,584 --> 00:11:15,196 At first they fill the traditional witch's role 274 00:11:15,239 --> 00:11:18,068 of being Satan's concubines... 275 00:11:18,112 --> 00:11:21,942 [scary music] 276 00:11:21,985 --> 00:11:24,596 But when they pool their power, 277 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,816 they put the chauvinist devil in his place. 278 00:11:26,860 --> 00:11:29,558 - [screams] 279 00:11:29,601 --> 00:11:31,168 ♪ 280 00:11:31,212 --> 00:11:33,257 [moans] 281 00:11:33,301 --> 00:11:36,260 - I put a spell on you. 282 00:11:36,304 --> 00:11:37,740 [mysterious music] 283 00:11:37,784 --> 00:11:40,177 And now you're mine. 284 00:11:40,221 --> 00:11:42,440 narrator: The three witchy sisters 285 00:11:42,484 --> 00:11:46,618 of Disney's "Hocus Pocus" had a classically evil goal: 286 00:11:46,662 --> 00:11:49,404 to drain out the souls of children. 287 00:11:49,447 --> 00:11:51,885 [witches inhale and sigh] 288 00:11:51,928 --> 00:11:55,497 They were scary and powerful, but somehow lovable. 289 00:11:55,540 --> 00:11:58,021 - I suggest we forma calming circle. 290 00:11:58,065 --> 00:11:59,544 - I am calm! 291 00:11:59,588 --> 00:12:02,983 - Oh, sister, thou art notbeing honest with thyself, 292 00:12:03,026 --> 00:12:04,724 are we? 293 00:12:04,767 --> 00:12:06,595 [scary music] 294 00:12:06,638 --> 00:12:09,293 - It is a fine line figuring out how evil 295 00:12:09,337 --> 00:12:10,817 to make the witches, 296 00:12:10,860 --> 00:12:12,949 how playful to make the surroundings, 297 00:12:12,993 --> 00:12:14,385 and they have to be a threat. 298 00:12:14,429 --> 00:12:16,083 - [snarls] [kids screaming] 299 00:12:16,126 --> 00:12:19,216 - But they can't be unpleasant. 300 00:12:19,260 --> 00:12:22,567 - [screaming] 301 00:12:22,611 --> 00:12:25,222 [rock music] 302 00:12:25,266 --> 00:12:26,789 - But the real turning point 303 00:12:26,833 --> 00:12:28,530 in the representation of witches 304 00:12:28,573 --> 00:12:30,793 came with a horror movie aimed at teenagers. 305 00:12:30,837 --> 00:12:33,796 [eerie music] 306 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,667 ♪ 307 00:12:35,711 --> 00:12:37,669 The young women in "The Craft" 308 00:12:37,713 --> 00:12:40,455 embraced the Earth-worshipping magic of modern day pagans... 309 00:12:40,498 --> 00:12:41,804 - [whispering] 310 00:12:41,848 --> 00:12:43,023 narrator: With a healthy dose 311 00:12:43,066 --> 00:12:44,154 of supernatural special effects. 312 00:12:44,198 --> 00:12:46,200 ♪ 313 00:12:46,243 --> 00:12:47,810 [knocking] 314 00:12:47,854 --> 00:12:49,203 - Hi, I got clean towels for everyone. 315 00:12:49,246 --> 00:12:50,726 - Aah! 316 00:12:50,770 --> 00:12:52,859 Oh, my butt. 317 00:12:52,902 --> 00:12:55,165 - What's going on in here? - Nothing, why? 318 00:12:55,209 --> 00:12:56,645 - Are you girls getting high? - No, Mom. 319 00:12:56,688 --> 00:12:58,212 - [laughs] 320 00:12:58,255 --> 00:13:00,649 - "The Craft" gave us outcasts 321 00:13:00,692 --> 00:13:03,260 who kind of came into their power, 322 00:13:03,304 --> 00:13:06,916 despite or maybe even because of that outsider status, 323 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,092 and it gave us this model 324 00:13:09,136 --> 00:13:12,226 of girls who could be kind of badass 325 00:13:12,269 --> 00:13:14,402 and kind of goth and just different. 326 00:13:17,492 --> 00:13:20,016 - "The Craft" is about four girls, 327 00:13:20,060 --> 00:13:23,019 three who have been together for a while, 328 00:13:23,063 --> 00:13:25,630 and a new girl arrives at school, Sarah Bailey... 329 00:13:25,674 --> 00:13:27,502 - Do you guys mind if I sit with you? 330 00:13:27,545 --> 00:13:29,417 'Cause I'm supposed to find the lab group. 331 00:13:29,460 --> 00:13:32,246 - She meets this group of outcasts 332 00:13:32,289 --> 00:13:35,727 and finds a place where she can maybe fit in, 333 00:13:35,771 --> 00:13:39,079 and it turns out that this group is witches. 334 00:13:39,122 --> 00:13:43,344 - Aid us in our magicalworking on this May's eve. 335 00:13:43,387 --> 00:13:45,476 [thunder cracks] 336 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:47,827 - We see that they each have a kind of issue. 337 00:13:49,219 --> 00:13:50,786 - Don't hit your headon the board. 338 00:13:50,830 --> 00:13:52,832 - Racism... 339 00:13:52,875 --> 00:13:54,964 The scarring of Neve Campbell's character's body. 340 00:13:55,008 --> 00:13:56,792 - [groaning] 341 00:13:56,836 --> 00:14:00,274 - Intimate partner violence, some domestic violence. 342 00:14:00,317 --> 00:14:02,363 - Stop! 343 00:14:02,406 --> 00:14:04,800 - We see that by working together, 344 00:14:04,844 --> 00:14:06,671 they can kind of create this power where 345 00:14:06,715 --> 00:14:09,805 they're more than the sum of their parts. 346 00:14:09,849 --> 00:14:11,981 narrator: Like modern Wiccans and Pagans, 347 00:14:12,025 --> 00:14:14,723 these girls don't worship Satan. 348 00:14:14,766 --> 00:14:16,986 They draw their power from nature. 349 00:14:17,030 --> 00:14:20,642 all chanting: Fire, water, air. 350 00:14:22,862 --> 00:14:25,560 - I think witch's power is so important 351 00:14:25,603 --> 00:14:28,389 is because it's rooted in strength. 352 00:14:28,432 --> 00:14:30,130 Witchcraft and Paganism, 353 00:14:30,173 --> 00:14:31,958 it's rooted in a connection to the Earth. 354 00:14:32,001 --> 00:14:33,220 - As above... 355 00:14:33,263 --> 00:14:34,874 - It is respect for the Earth. 356 00:14:34,917 --> 00:14:36,701 - So below. 357 00:14:36,745 --> 00:14:41,402 - But the idea was to take the religion, Wicca, seriously. 358 00:14:41,445 --> 00:14:43,186 If you get all of the little details right 359 00:14:43,230 --> 00:14:44,709 about this religion, 360 00:14:44,753 --> 00:14:46,320 you can take a few liberties 361 00:14:46,363 --> 00:14:49,279 and make something supernatural happen, 362 00:14:49,323 --> 00:14:51,325 and it's more believable. 363 00:14:51,368 --> 00:14:54,023 - Ours is the magic, ours is the power. 364 00:14:54,067 --> 00:14:56,939 [rock music] 365 00:14:56,983 --> 00:15:00,160 - They start practicing witchcraft more intensely 366 00:15:00,203 --> 00:15:03,903 and getting magical results, 367 00:15:03,946 --> 00:15:06,340 and they're intoxicated by the results, 368 00:15:06,383 --> 00:15:08,124 and then they want more. [both screaming] 369 00:15:08,168 --> 00:15:10,692 - It's analogy for female sexuality. 370 00:15:10,735 --> 00:15:13,782 If you notice, as their powers get stronger, 371 00:15:13,825 --> 00:15:16,350 our skirts get shorter. 372 00:15:16,393 --> 00:15:18,221 Society's always been scared of women 373 00:15:18,265 --> 00:15:19,962 and their sexuality. 374 00:15:20,006 --> 00:15:21,442 And teenagers, that's their burgeoning sexuality 375 00:15:21,485 --> 00:15:22,878 when it hits, 376 00:15:22,922 --> 00:15:24,967 so the witchcraft kind of an analogy for that fear 377 00:15:25,011 --> 00:15:26,229 that we have 378 00:15:26,273 --> 00:15:28,275 of women coming into their power. 379 00:15:28,318 --> 00:15:31,147 [scary music] 380 00:15:31,191 --> 00:15:33,454 narrator: At first, the girls' new power is liberating... 381 00:15:33,497 --> 00:15:35,238 - [laughs] 382 00:15:35,282 --> 00:15:37,675 narrator: But they soon begin to abuse their gifts... 383 00:15:37,719 --> 00:15:39,199 - [gasps] 384 00:15:39,242 --> 00:15:41,027 narrator: First with small acts of revenge... 385 00:15:41,070 --> 00:15:43,377 - Just keeps falling out. 386 00:15:43,420 --> 00:15:45,509 - [screaming] 387 00:15:45,553 --> 00:15:47,207 narrator: And then with murder. 388 00:15:49,339 --> 00:15:51,820 [thumps] - [screams] 389 00:15:51,863 --> 00:15:55,345 - Nancy's character is the addict. 390 00:15:55,389 --> 00:15:59,306 She's the one who can't restrain her use of the power. 391 00:15:59,349 --> 00:16:02,091 When she gets a good feeling she needs more of it. 392 00:16:02,135 --> 00:16:03,701 ♪ 393 00:16:03,745 --> 00:16:05,486 narrator: "The Craft" uses witchcraft 394 00:16:05,529 --> 00:16:06,878 as a metaphor for drug use. 395 00:16:06,922 --> 00:16:09,359 - [screams] 396 00:16:09,403 --> 00:16:11,013 narrator: But it also uses 397 00:16:11,057 --> 00:16:13,320 the tight knit circle of a witch's coven 398 00:16:13,363 --> 00:16:15,539 to explore the world of teenage girls... 399 00:16:15,583 --> 00:16:17,150 ♪ 400 00:16:17,193 --> 00:16:18,978 A time when your best friends 401 00:16:19,021 --> 00:16:21,589 can become your worst enemies overnight. 402 00:16:22,807 --> 00:16:23,983 - There you are. 403 00:16:24,026 --> 00:16:26,289 We've looking everywhere for you. 404 00:16:26,333 --> 00:16:28,944 - As teenage girls, they're hitting the age 405 00:16:28,988 --> 00:16:30,511 where you start to get pitted against each other. 406 00:16:30,554 --> 00:16:32,600 Instead of having sisterhood, 407 00:16:32,643 --> 00:16:35,255 we started to go, "There can only be one!" 408 00:16:35,298 --> 00:16:37,257 And that's insane. 409 00:16:37,300 --> 00:16:39,215 - [laughs] 410 00:16:39,259 --> 00:16:41,826 ♪ 411 00:16:41,870 --> 00:16:43,915 - When you're a teenager, your brain just isn't right. 412 00:16:43,959 --> 00:16:45,874 You're chemically not balanced, 413 00:16:45,917 --> 00:16:48,442 and then you add in the social constructs 414 00:16:48,485 --> 00:16:50,748 and the way that they're trying to navigate that 415 00:16:50,792 --> 00:16:53,229 and interact with one another. 416 00:16:53,273 --> 00:16:56,189 There is something, like, an element of violence to it, 417 00:16:56,232 --> 00:16:59,061 even if it's never physical, it's, like, emotional violence 418 00:16:59,105 --> 00:17:00,802 that you deal with as a teenage girl. 419 00:17:00,845 --> 00:17:03,152 [laughter] 420 00:17:03,196 --> 00:17:05,633 I think the horror genre is actually a great genre 421 00:17:05,676 --> 00:17:07,896 to explore those concepts 422 00:17:07,939 --> 00:17:10,377 because you can make physical 423 00:17:10,420 --> 00:17:12,466 what a lot of girls are feeling internally 424 00:17:12,509 --> 00:17:13,510 all the time. 425 00:17:13,554 --> 00:17:15,425 - [screams] Stop it! 426 00:17:15,469 --> 00:17:19,081 [heavy breathing] 427 00:17:19,125 --> 00:17:21,388 narrator: "The Craft" was a frothy blend 428 00:17:21,431 --> 00:17:22,780 of adolescent angst 429 00:17:22,824 --> 00:17:26,132 and modern witchcraft. 430 00:17:26,175 --> 00:17:30,092 "Hereditary" mixes similar ingredients 431 00:17:30,136 --> 00:17:32,616 into a much darker brew. - [screams] 432 00:17:38,492 --> 00:17:40,581 narrator: In the movies, 433 00:17:40,624 --> 00:17:42,539 the wicked witches of olden times 434 00:17:42,583 --> 00:17:44,628 were easy to spot. 435 00:17:44,672 --> 00:17:46,413 [chatter] 436 00:17:46,456 --> 00:17:49,894 But what do modern day wicked witches look like? 437 00:17:49,938 --> 00:17:51,113 [horrific musical sting] 438 00:17:51,157 --> 00:17:53,507 Perhaps like the shadowy coven 439 00:17:53,550 --> 00:17:55,857 in Ari Aster's harrowing film, "Hereditary." 440 00:17:58,120 --> 00:18:00,035 Though they are never clearly seen 441 00:18:00,079 --> 00:18:02,646 until the film's explosive conclusion... 442 00:18:02,690 --> 00:18:04,996 [buzzing] - [heavy breathing] 443 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,216 [screams] 444 00:18:07,260 --> 00:18:09,784 - Mommy, please, I'm begging you. 445 00:18:09,827 --> 00:18:11,873 I'm begging you to stop! 446 00:18:11,916 --> 00:18:13,614 narrator: Their presence is always felt. 447 00:18:13,657 --> 00:18:15,181 - [grunts] 448 00:18:16,921 --> 00:18:19,098 - One of the first images that came to me 449 00:18:19,141 --> 00:18:21,143 when I was developing "Hereditary," 450 00:18:21,187 --> 00:18:23,580 was that of the dollhouse 451 00:18:23,624 --> 00:18:25,800 and this artist who was, you know, 452 00:18:25,843 --> 00:18:28,672 making these very true to life replicas 453 00:18:28,716 --> 00:18:31,284 of, like, the spaces in her life. 454 00:18:31,327 --> 00:18:34,635 That just felt like an appropriate metaphor 455 00:18:34,678 --> 00:18:38,421 for this film about a family that ultimately has no agency. 456 00:18:38,465 --> 00:18:40,641 Ultimately, they are like dolls in a dollhouse. 457 00:18:40,684 --> 00:18:43,122 narrator: The family is grappling with the death 458 00:18:43,165 --> 00:18:45,559 of its icy matriarch. 459 00:18:45,602 --> 00:18:48,779 They don't realize grandma was the leader of a witch's coven 460 00:18:48,823 --> 00:18:50,825 that worships a demon named Paimon. 461 00:18:52,435 --> 00:18:55,221 And she won't let a small thing like dying 462 00:18:55,264 --> 00:18:57,919 get in the way of her plans for her granddaughter, 463 00:18:57,962 --> 00:18:59,703 a strange 13-year-old named Charlie. 464 00:18:59,747 --> 00:19:01,096 - [clicks tongue] 465 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:06,667 - I really wanted to be in a horror movie, 466 00:19:06,710 --> 00:19:08,321 specifically as a character that wasn't, like, 467 00:19:08,364 --> 00:19:10,192 the one running around scared, 468 00:19:10,236 --> 00:19:13,500 so I could kind of figure out what that person is thinking 469 00:19:13,543 --> 00:19:15,241 and, like, why they're doing the things they do 470 00:19:15,284 --> 00:19:16,546 and how their brain works. 471 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:19,767 I don't think like that, 472 00:19:19,810 --> 00:19:21,856 I wouldn't normally, like, cut bird heads off... 473 00:19:24,206 --> 00:19:27,209 narrator: Charlie's peculiar behavior 474 00:19:27,253 --> 00:19:28,689 is explained by the fact 475 00:19:28,732 --> 00:19:32,562 that she and the demon share a body 476 00:19:32,606 --> 00:19:37,219 thanks to grandma's black magic. 477 00:19:37,263 --> 00:19:39,787 At first, "Hereditary" seems to be about 478 00:19:39,830 --> 00:19:42,964 a woman who doesn't realize her child is possessed. 479 00:19:43,007 --> 00:19:45,314 - You're going. - Why? 480 00:19:45,358 --> 00:19:46,750 - Because it'll be fun. 481 00:19:46,794 --> 00:19:48,535 Because you'll get to hang out with other kids. 482 00:19:48,578 --> 00:19:50,493 narrator: But then Charlie and her brother Peter 483 00:19:50,537 --> 00:19:52,016 go to a party, 484 00:19:52,060 --> 00:19:53,801 she has an allergic reaction... 485 00:19:53,844 --> 00:19:56,020 - I think my throat's getting bigger. 486 00:19:56,064 --> 00:19:57,935 narrator: He tries to rush her to a hospital 487 00:19:57,979 --> 00:20:00,373 and things take a tragic turn. 488 00:20:00,416 --> 00:20:03,027 [tires screech] 489 00:20:03,071 --> 00:20:04,942 - Ooh! [coughs] 490 00:20:04,986 --> 00:20:06,553 [gasping] 491 00:20:06,596 --> 00:20:09,599 I was excited to get decapitated. 492 00:20:09,643 --> 00:20:12,602 I've always wanted to die in a film or a show 493 00:20:12,646 --> 00:20:14,909 in some, like, very overdramatic way 494 00:20:14,952 --> 00:20:16,998 and getting decapitated, 495 00:20:17,041 --> 00:20:19,174 it's, like, one of the best ways to go. 496 00:20:19,218 --> 00:20:21,655 It's so dramatic. It's so, like, extreme. 497 00:20:21,698 --> 00:20:24,658 [tires screeching] 498 00:20:28,270 --> 00:20:29,837 - The head comes off, 499 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,100 but it's handled in a very kind of tasteful way, 500 00:20:32,143 --> 00:20:33,710 and part of the fun of that 501 00:20:33,754 --> 00:20:36,757 was knowing that we were gonna stay with Peter 502 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:38,324 for a very long time, 503 00:20:38,367 --> 00:20:40,761 go home with him, go to bed with him, 504 00:20:40,804 --> 00:20:44,155 and then drop the head eight minutes later. 505 00:20:44,199 --> 00:20:47,115 - [crying] 506 00:20:53,077 --> 00:20:55,863 - That's where we reveal what the movie actually is. 507 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,214 narrator: Charlie's death triggers 508 00:20:59,258 --> 00:21:02,435 the already dysfunctional family's collapse. 509 00:21:02,478 --> 00:21:04,132 - She's gone forever! 510 00:21:05,742 --> 00:21:08,310 And what a waste. 511 00:21:08,354 --> 00:21:11,052 If it could've maybe brought us together or something. 512 00:21:11,095 --> 00:21:13,228 If you could've just said, "I'm sorry," 513 00:21:13,272 --> 00:21:15,317 or faced up to what happened, 514 00:21:15,361 --> 00:21:18,059 maybe then we could do something with this, 515 00:21:18,102 --> 00:21:20,322 but you can't take responsibility for anything! 516 00:21:20,366 --> 00:21:23,107 So now I can't accept. 517 00:21:23,151 --> 00:21:25,936 - There were just some horribly 518 00:21:25,980 --> 00:21:30,027 emotionally draining moments where you-- 519 00:21:30,071 --> 00:21:33,161 Toni Collette is so good in that movie, and you just-- 520 00:21:33,204 --> 00:21:35,642 all you wanna do is find a way 521 00:21:35,685 --> 00:21:37,339 for her to release her of her pain. 522 00:21:37,383 --> 00:21:40,081 - [cries] 523 00:21:40,124 --> 00:21:41,648 - [crying] 524 00:21:41,691 --> 00:21:43,737 narrator: But pain is precisely the emotion 525 00:21:43,780 --> 00:21:46,043 the witches use to manipulate their victims. 526 00:21:46,087 --> 00:21:47,828 - [gasps] 527 00:21:47,871 --> 00:21:51,266 - The movie's about a family that in many ways 528 00:21:51,310 --> 00:21:52,920 is kind of following each other into madness, 529 00:21:52,963 --> 00:21:54,661 especially Toni Collette's character 530 00:21:54,704 --> 00:21:56,358 and Alex Wolff's character. 531 00:21:56,402 --> 00:21:58,665 They're really kind of pushing each other there. 532 00:21:58,708 --> 00:22:00,623 - Why did you try to kill me? - I love you. 533 00:22:00,667 --> 00:22:02,233 I didn't! I was trying to save you! 534 00:22:02,277 --> 00:22:06,368 - Why did you try to kill me? [both crying] 535 00:22:06,412 --> 00:22:07,804 - You are sick. 536 00:22:07,848 --> 00:22:09,371 narrator: Once the coven 537 00:22:09,415 --> 00:22:11,155 has pushed the family over the edge, 538 00:22:11,199 --> 00:22:13,593 the film explodes into a supernatural orgy 539 00:22:13,636 --> 00:22:15,029 of violent death. 540 00:22:15,072 --> 00:22:18,162 - [screaming] 541 00:22:18,206 --> 00:22:20,208 - By the time you get to the end 542 00:22:20,251 --> 00:22:21,862 of the movie, 543 00:22:21,905 --> 00:22:23,951 and Toni Collette's, like, 544 00:22:23,994 --> 00:22:27,302 levitating and sawing her own head off 545 00:22:27,346 --> 00:22:29,913 with that horrifying look on her face, 546 00:22:29,957 --> 00:22:32,568 [terrifying music] 547 00:22:32,612 --> 00:22:34,178 I didn't know what to do. 548 00:22:34,222 --> 00:22:36,093 Like, I didn't even know where the movie was going. 549 00:22:36,137 --> 00:22:38,400 - [screams] 550 00:22:38,444 --> 00:22:40,184 [thump] 551 00:22:40,228 --> 00:22:42,361 - I love when movies, you know, 552 00:22:42,404 --> 00:22:45,712 kind of embrace a more operatic sensibility. 553 00:22:45,755 --> 00:22:48,671 Why not just go off the rails and just go there, you know? 554 00:22:48,715 --> 00:22:51,413 You know that you're gonna be alienating 555 00:22:51,457 --> 00:22:54,024 a large section of the audience, 556 00:22:54,068 --> 00:22:55,504 and you know that people are kinda gonna get off the ride 557 00:22:55,548 --> 00:22:58,464 at that point, but for me... 558 00:22:58,507 --> 00:23:00,379 - Oh, my God. - It's okay, it's okay. 559 00:23:00,422 --> 00:23:01,684 - I just didn't care. 560 00:23:01,728 --> 00:23:03,382 - It's okay, it's okay. 561 00:23:03,425 --> 00:23:04,948 narrator: Like the coven in "Hereditary," 562 00:23:04,992 --> 00:23:08,517 demonic women in "The Witch" are rarely seen. 563 00:23:08,561 --> 00:23:09,953 - [grunts] - [screaming] 564 00:23:09,997 --> 00:23:11,128 narrator: But they know exactly 565 00:23:11,172 --> 00:23:12,782 how to drag a family to hell. 566 00:23:12,826 --> 00:23:14,654 - [bleating] [both grunting] 567 00:23:21,617 --> 00:23:24,011 narrator: In colonial America, 568 00:23:24,054 --> 00:23:25,882 the face of a witch often look like this... 569 00:23:25,926 --> 00:23:27,971 [tense music] 570 00:23:28,015 --> 00:23:30,060 The face of Thomasin, 571 00:23:30,104 --> 00:23:33,977 the teenage protagonist of Robert Eggers' "The Witch." 572 00:23:34,021 --> 00:23:36,937 - Tell us why you went to the wood. 573 00:23:36,980 --> 00:23:38,982 - I promise. - I care not. 574 00:23:39,026 --> 00:23:42,072 ♪ 575 00:23:42,116 --> 00:23:45,946 - "The Witch" is the scariest movie 576 00:23:45,989 --> 00:23:49,471 in its residual effect on me, maybe ever. 577 00:23:49,515 --> 00:23:51,125 - [gasps] 578 00:23:51,168 --> 00:23:53,867 - I felt contaminated 579 00:23:53,910 --> 00:23:57,000 by the evil of that movie. [laughs] 580 00:23:57,044 --> 00:23:59,916 ♪ 581 00:23:59,960 --> 00:24:02,266 narrator: Set in 1620, 582 00:24:02,310 --> 00:24:04,312 "The Witch" tells the tale 583 00:24:04,355 --> 00:24:07,184 of a family banished from the Plymouth colony 584 00:24:07,228 --> 00:24:10,405 because the patriarch is too unbendingly religious 585 00:24:10,449 --> 00:24:13,408 even for his fellow Calvinists. 586 00:24:13,452 --> 00:24:17,412 The family sets up a homestead in the wilds of New England, 587 00:24:17,456 --> 00:24:20,197 and are targeted by the baby-killing witches 588 00:24:20,241 --> 00:24:21,634 that live in the woods. 589 00:24:21,677 --> 00:24:24,811 ♪ 590 00:24:24,854 --> 00:24:27,248 - Mmm, boo! [laughs] 591 00:24:27,291 --> 00:24:28,771 [baby laughing] There you are. 592 00:24:28,815 --> 00:24:32,035 There you are. [chuckles] 593 00:24:32,079 --> 00:24:34,255 Mmm, boo! 594 00:24:35,561 --> 00:24:36,866 [eerie music] 595 00:24:36,910 --> 00:24:38,868 Sam? 596 00:24:38,912 --> 00:24:43,003 ♪ 597 00:24:43,046 --> 00:24:45,353 - When the baby disappears... 598 00:24:45,396 --> 00:24:48,356 you can imagine being completely out there 599 00:24:48,399 --> 00:24:51,751 without any kind of real sort of civilization around you, 600 00:24:51,794 --> 00:24:53,448 to sort help. 601 00:24:53,492 --> 00:24:55,624 It's just a few of you and the family in the woods. 602 00:24:55,668 --> 00:24:58,627 ♪ 603 00:24:58,671 --> 00:25:00,542 - [barks] 604 00:25:00,586 --> 00:25:02,979 narrator: "The Witch" was shot entirely in natural light. 605 00:25:03,023 --> 00:25:04,546 both: Black Phillip, Black Phillip! 606 00:25:04,590 --> 00:25:06,156 narrator: With the actors wearing costumes 607 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,419 made from period appropriate fabrics. 608 00:25:08,463 --> 00:25:09,899 Everything feels real. 609 00:25:09,943 --> 00:25:11,640 - [sighs] 610 00:25:11,684 --> 00:25:14,817 - Black Phillip is the name I give, he goes along with-- 611 00:25:14,861 --> 00:25:17,385 - I cannot abide your songs. - Please you, Mercy. 612 00:25:17,428 --> 00:25:19,343 narrator: Even the film's dialogue is authentic, 613 00:25:19,387 --> 00:25:21,084 much it taken 614 00:25:21,128 --> 00:25:23,391 from actual transcripts of the Salem Witch Trials. 615 00:25:23,434 --> 00:25:25,262 - Take your leave. 616 00:25:25,306 --> 00:25:26,612 ♪ 617 00:25:26,655 --> 00:25:28,091 - Free us from the shaman's omen, 618 00:25:28,135 --> 00:25:31,051 would you do unto us, Father. Amen. 619 00:25:31,094 --> 00:25:33,575 narrator: Thomasin lives in a world of religious dread 620 00:25:33,619 --> 00:25:35,142 where Satan is real. 621 00:25:35,185 --> 00:25:36,665 - [grunts] - [screams] 622 00:25:36,709 --> 00:25:38,928 narrator: Witches are his unholy consults, 623 00:25:38,972 --> 00:25:41,844 and temptation and corruption 624 00:25:41,888 --> 00:25:44,412 lurk around every corner. 625 00:25:44,455 --> 00:25:47,415 [scary music] 626 00:25:47,458 --> 00:25:54,335 ♪ 627 00:25:56,424 --> 00:25:58,469 - [heavy breathing] Come on. 628 00:25:58,513 --> 00:25:59,949 narrator: After her young brother 629 00:25:59,993 --> 00:26:01,995 is seduced and murdered, 630 00:26:02,038 --> 00:26:04,954 the family begins to suspect Thomasin is responsible. 631 00:26:04,998 --> 00:26:06,477 - [screams] 632 00:26:06,521 --> 00:26:07,957 narrator: Her emergent womanhood 633 00:26:08,001 --> 00:26:10,133 is as unsettling to them as Black Phillip, 634 00:26:10,177 --> 00:26:11,874 the Satanic goat. 635 00:26:11,918 --> 00:26:13,615 - Baa, baa, baa. 636 00:26:16,575 --> 00:26:18,968 - Horror loves to exaggerate. 637 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,104 So the idea of the girl going through puberty 638 00:26:24,147 --> 00:26:26,236 as a source of horror... 639 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:27,411 - [heavy breathing] 640 00:26:27,455 --> 00:26:30,632 - And as a source of female power 641 00:26:30,676 --> 00:26:33,592 is something that shows up in a lot of horror films. 642 00:26:33,635 --> 00:26:35,506 - [cries]It is you! 643 00:26:35,550 --> 00:26:37,639 - [crying] I am your daughter. 644 00:26:37,683 --> 00:26:40,947 - The devil is in theeand has had thee. 645 00:26:40,990 --> 00:26:45,691 - Here's this good person who is being consumed by an evil 646 00:26:45,734 --> 00:26:47,867 that she cannot escape. - [screaming] 647 00:26:47,910 --> 00:26:50,130 - She only wants to be good and only wants to do what is right. 648 00:26:50,173 --> 00:26:52,785 - [heavy breathing] 649 00:26:52,828 --> 00:26:56,702 - And the idea of becoming usurped by evil... 650 00:26:56,745 --> 00:26:59,095 - I am no witch. 651 00:26:59,139 --> 00:27:02,403 - Is one of the scariest ideas that you can think of 652 00:27:02,446 --> 00:27:04,361 from a theological or religious point of view. 653 00:27:04,405 --> 00:27:07,451 - Please, Father.No, it's not safe! 654 00:27:07,495 --> 00:27:10,367 - But at the same time the movie is very critical 655 00:27:10,411 --> 00:27:13,283 in saying, "This is what religion 656 00:27:13,327 --> 00:27:15,111 "and religious hysteria 657 00:27:15,155 --> 00:27:18,898 "and religious repression also inevitably does 658 00:27:18,941 --> 00:27:21,465 to young agile minds." 659 00:27:21,509 --> 00:27:24,381 - Aah![grunts] 660 00:27:24,425 --> 00:27:26,035 narrator: Betrayed by her family, 661 00:27:26,079 --> 00:27:28,211 Thomasin loses everything 662 00:27:28,255 --> 00:27:30,779 and must make a terrible choice. 663 00:27:30,823 --> 00:27:32,694 ♪ 664 00:27:32,738 --> 00:27:35,958 - [whispering] Wouldst thou like to live deliciously? 665 00:27:36,002 --> 00:27:37,786 - Yes. 666 00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:41,355 ♪ 667 00:27:41,398 --> 00:27:43,183 [women chanting] 668 00:27:43,226 --> 00:27:47,100 - I don't think joining a Satan worshipping group of witches 669 00:27:47,143 --> 00:27:49,798 is seen as necessarily a good thing... 670 00:27:49,842 --> 00:27:51,278 [women chanting] 671 00:27:51,321 --> 00:27:53,497 But the fact that it's seen as preferable 672 00:27:53,541 --> 00:27:55,543 to the patriarchal society that it was in 673 00:27:55,586 --> 00:27:57,632 is a much more powerful damnation, I think, 674 00:27:57,676 --> 00:27:59,242 about society. 675 00:28:02,681 --> 00:28:06,554 - She ultimately gets to have her power, 676 00:28:06,597 --> 00:28:09,731 um, and that ending is just a great revelatory ending. 677 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:15,171 narrator: Some women reluctantly become witches. 678 00:28:15,215 --> 00:28:16,738 [eerie chill blows] 679 00:28:16,782 --> 00:28:19,654 Others happily walk the path. 680 00:28:19,698 --> 00:28:22,788 [laughter] 681 00:28:28,141 --> 00:28:30,056 [chatter] 682 00:28:30,099 --> 00:28:32,058 narrator: The nice ladies of the Royal Society 683 00:28:32,101 --> 00:28:34,451 for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children 684 00:28:34,495 --> 00:28:36,671 are not what they appear to be. 685 00:28:36,715 --> 00:28:38,455 - [grunts] 686 00:28:38,499 --> 00:28:41,328 narrator: They are, in fact, child-hating monsters 687 00:28:41,371 --> 00:28:44,723 led by the diabolical grand high witch... 688 00:28:44,766 --> 00:28:47,987 [dastardly music] 689 00:28:48,030 --> 00:28:52,121 A misshapen crone without a drop of decency. 690 00:28:52,165 --> 00:28:57,518 - The witch who dares to say I'm wrong 691 00:28:57,561 --> 00:28:59,825 will not be with us 692 00:28:59,868 --> 00:29:02,044 very long! 693 00:29:02,088 --> 00:29:03,742 - Aah! 694 00:29:03,785 --> 00:29:05,744 narrator: Directed by Nicolas Roeg, 695 00:29:05,787 --> 00:29:08,050 produced by Jim Henson, 696 00:29:08,094 --> 00:29:10,705 and based on the book by Roald Dahl, 697 00:29:10,749 --> 00:29:14,100 "The Witches" takes a very old school view of the dark arts. 698 00:29:14,143 --> 00:29:16,058 [eerie music] 699 00:29:16,102 --> 00:29:18,800 - Roald Dahl and Nick Roeg pulled no punches. 700 00:29:18,844 --> 00:29:21,934 Witches are evil; they report to the devil... 701 00:29:21,977 --> 00:29:23,457 [eerie musical sting] 702 00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:25,328 They live to kill children. 703 00:29:25,372 --> 00:29:28,897 - Real witches have no toes. 704 00:29:28,941 --> 00:29:31,030 - The opening of "Witches" 705 00:29:31,073 --> 00:29:34,642 is this beautiful little six-year-old girl... 706 00:29:34,685 --> 00:29:38,124 [dramatic music] 707 00:29:38,167 --> 00:29:39,821 Cursed into a painting. 708 00:29:39,865 --> 00:29:42,650 - Gazing at us. 709 00:29:42,693 --> 00:29:44,173 - Until she dies of old age, 710 00:29:44,217 --> 00:29:45,914 locked and trapped in the painting. 711 00:29:45,958 --> 00:29:48,525 - One morning, she was gone. 712 00:29:48,569 --> 00:29:50,266 - It's really terrifying. 713 00:29:50,310 --> 00:29:53,313 - [gurgles] 714 00:29:53,356 --> 00:29:55,358 narrator: Despite its dark undercurrent, 715 00:29:55,402 --> 00:29:57,143 "The Witches" is one of those rare films 716 00:29:57,186 --> 00:29:59,493 that actually is fun for the whole family. 717 00:29:59,536 --> 00:30:02,452 - [snarling] [couple screaming] 718 00:30:02,496 --> 00:30:03,714 narrator: But in 1990, 719 00:30:03,758 --> 00:30:05,455 some were not amused. 720 00:30:05,499 --> 00:30:07,544 - Get the mice. 721 00:30:07,588 --> 00:30:09,459 - The Witches of America or the Wiccans 722 00:30:09,503 --> 00:30:11,853 were protesting the movie 723 00:30:11,897 --> 00:30:14,160 for such a negative portrayal of witches, 724 00:30:14,203 --> 00:30:15,422 and they're absolutely right. 725 00:30:15,465 --> 00:30:17,076 [laughter] 726 00:30:17,119 --> 00:30:18,860 Yeah, somebody goes and says, "Witches, uh, 727 00:30:18,904 --> 00:30:20,514 those witches were really negatively portrayed." 728 00:30:20,557 --> 00:30:22,211 Good, then, let's have a conversation 729 00:30:22,255 --> 00:30:23,996 because that's the way a lot of people used to feel. 730 00:30:24,039 --> 00:30:25,345 [laughs] 731 00:30:25,388 --> 00:30:26,955 - Bye. 732 00:30:26,999 --> 00:30:29,175 [laughs] 733 00:30:29,218 --> 00:30:30,350 - [laughs] 734 00:30:30,393 --> 00:30:32,047 - Why are you laughing? 735 00:30:32,091 --> 00:30:35,050 I'm not laughing. 736 00:30:35,094 --> 00:30:38,314 Is something suddenly funny? 737 00:30:38,358 --> 00:30:40,839 narrator: When it comes to unrepentantly evil witches, 738 00:30:40,882 --> 00:30:43,319 Rob Zombie's "The Lords of Salem" 739 00:30:43,363 --> 00:30:44,843 is hard to top. 740 00:30:44,886 --> 00:30:47,410 - Oh, that felt good. 741 00:30:47,454 --> 00:30:49,369 narrator: These women come armed 742 00:30:49,412 --> 00:30:52,241 with a subversive message about female power. 743 00:30:52,285 --> 00:30:55,592 - "Lords of Salem," I feel, is Rob Zombie's best film. 744 00:30:55,636 --> 00:30:58,421 It's a really good story. It's a nightmarish story. 745 00:30:58,465 --> 00:31:01,424 narrator: Sheri Moon Zombie plays Heidi Hawthorne, 746 00:31:01,468 --> 00:31:04,079 a radio DJ in Salem, Massachusetts. 747 00:31:04,123 --> 00:31:06,255 - I have no info on where this came from. 748 00:31:06,299 --> 00:31:09,084 All I know is the group is called The Lords. 749 00:31:09,128 --> 00:31:12,131 narrator: She's tricked into playing a mysterious record 750 00:31:12,174 --> 00:31:14,568 that awakens the latent witchiness 751 00:31:14,611 --> 00:31:16,787 in the women of Salem. 752 00:31:16,831 --> 00:31:19,007 Heidi's descent into darkness 753 00:31:19,051 --> 00:31:20,530 is sped along by the coven 754 00:31:20,574 --> 00:31:22,750 that lives in her apartment building. 755 00:31:22,793 --> 00:31:26,058 - I came up with this coven of witches in Salem... 756 00:31:26,101 --> 00:31:28,060 [crowd screaming] 757 00:31:28,103 --> 00:31:30,410 - That were destroyed 758 00:31:30,453 --> 00:31:33,239 by Jonathan Hawthorne, 759 00:31:33,282 --> 00:31:34,893 and then we jump to modern day 760 00:31:34,936 --> 00:31:37,373 where this modern day coven of witches 761 00:31:37,417 --> 00:31:38,940 choose Heidi Hawthorne, 762 00:31:38,984 --> 00:31:40,333 who's a descendent of Jonathan Hawthorne 763 00:31:40,376 --> 00:31:42,770 to be the--the vessel by which, you know, 764 00:31:42,813 --> 00:31:45,381 the Antichrist comes back, and the witches return. 765 00:31:45,425 --> 00:31:47,209 - [screaming] 766 00:31:47,253 --> 00:31:49,168 narrator: Unlike most witch movies, 767 00:31:49,211 --> 00:31:51,953 "The Lords of Salem" is actually on the side 768 00:31:51,997 --> 00:31:55,130 of the murderous witches and their satanic agenda of evil. 769 00:31:55,174 --> 00:31:57,045 [laughter] 770 00:31:57,089 --> 00:31:59,178 - The witches are the heroes in this one again, as usual. 771 00:31:59,221 --> 00:32:00,962 [laughs] That's why I created 772 00:32:01,006 --> 00:32:03,225 the character of the--Torsten played 773 00:32:03,269 --> 00:32:04,705 of the German black metal guy 774 00:32:04,748 --> 00:32:06,141 ranting against Christianity 775 00:32:06,185 --> 00:32:07,795 just to get a little more in there. 776 00:32:07,838 --> 00:32:10,537 [laughs] Just to complain about it all. 777 00:32:10,580 --> 00:32:13,844 - Our philosophyis to expose the lies 778 00:32:13,888 --> 00:32:16,151 of the Christian whoresand Jesus, 779 00:32:16,195 --> 00:32:17,805 the true bringer of death. 780 00:32:17,848 --> 00:32:20,155 - [laughs] 781 00:32:20,199 --> 00:32:23,593 narrator: The men in the film are secondary characters, 782 00:32:23,637 --> 00:32:25,247 oblivious to the deadly 783 00:32:25,291 --> 00:32:27,815 and very female energy building up in Salem. 784 00:32:27,858 --> 00:32:30,731 [scary music] 785 00:32:30,774 --> 00:32:34,300 - I wanted the whole movie to feel like it was a dream. 786 00:32:34,343 --> 00:32:37,085 Is this really happening, does she think this is happening, 787 00:32:37,129 --> 00:32:38,913 is this just a drug dream, or is she crazy? 788 00:32:38,957 --> 00:32:40,306 - [snarls] - [screaming] 789 00:32:40,349 --> 00:32:41,655 [horrific musical sting] 790 00:32:41,698 --> 00:32:43,700 - [heavy breathing] 791 00:32:43,744 --> 00:32:46,181 ♪ 792 00:32:46,225 --> 00:32:48,488 narrator: The film culminates with a hellish ceremony 793 00:32:48,531 --> 00:32:50,881 as the witches summon the return of the Antichrist 794 00:32:50,925 --> 00:32:52,318 through Heidi. 795 00:32:52,361 --> 00:32:53,754 ♪ 796 00:32:53,797 --> 00:32:55,538 - I like the ending a lot, 797 00:32:55,582 --> 00:32:57,018 because I've always been a big fan of Ken Russell movies, 798 00:32:57,062 --> 00:32:58,498 and I like crazy [bleep]. 799 00:32:58,541 --> 00:33:00,456 - [speaking foreign language] - [screams] 800 00:33:00,500 --> 00:33:03,024 - 'Cause I thought, like, well, if--if you have someone 801 00:33:03,068 --> 00:33:05,984 who their entire soul is being stripped away 802 00:33:06,027 --> 00:33:07,942 because they're being dragged to hell by witches 803 00:33:07,986 --> 00:33:09,770 and forced to give birth to Satan... 804 00:33:09,813 --> 00:33:11,206 [witches chanting] 805 00:33:11,250 --> 00:33:13,426 - What is that gonna look like? [laughs] 806 00:33:13,469 --> 00:33:16,255 - In the burning rivers of the dead. 807 00:33:18,257 --> 00:33:21,695 - Ultimately, we see this as a kind of act of revenge 808 00:33:21,738 --> 00:33:24,524 against this patriarchal culture 809 00:33:24,567 --> 00:33:27,048 that found women's power threatening. 810 00:33:27,092 --> 00:33:28,789 [eerie music] 811 00:33:28,832 --> 00:33:30,182 And so it was this 812 00:33:30,225 --> 00:33:32,619 generations-long act of revenge 813 00:33:32,662 --> 00:33:35,013 and sort of asserting this power 814 00:33:35,056 --> 00:33:37,493 as something that can't be contained so easily. 815 00:33:37,537 --> 00:33:39,713 ♪ 816 00:33:39,756 --> 00:33:42,107 - [laughs] 817 00:33:42,150 --> 00:33:44,805 narrator: If Rob Zombie's "The Lords of Salem" 818 00:33:44,848 --> 00:33:46,285 is a black metal dirge... 819 00:33:46,328 --> 00:33:49,288 - [screaming] 820 00:33:49,331 --> 00:33:51,333 narrator: Dario Argento's "Suspiria" 821 00:33:51,377 --> 00:33:53,640 is the witch movie as high opera. 822 00:33:53,683 --> 00:33:56,164 - [screams] 823 00:33:56,208 --> 00:33:58,079 narrator: Filled with drama, 824 00:33:58,123 --> 00:34:01,909 music, color, and unforgettable violence. 825 00:34:01,952 --> 00:34:03,737 - [laughs] 826 00:34:07,784 --> 00:34:10,396 [eerie music] 827 00:34:10,439 --> 00:34:13,355 narrator: In 1977's "Suspiria"... 828 00:34:13,399 --> 00:34:15,140 ♪ 829 00:34:15,183 --> 00:34:18,230 Writer/director Dario Argento combined witchcraft 830 00:34:18,273 --> 00:34:20,884 with a violent murder mystery. 831 00:34:20,928 --> 00:34:22,495 - Aah! 832 00:34:22,538 --> 00:34:24,018 narrator: To create a dreamlike masterpiece 833 00:34:24,062 --> 00:34:26,151 of horror. 834 00:34:26,194 --> 00:34:28,109 - [squeaking] 835 00:34:28,153 --> 00:34:30,938 narrator: To this day, there's nothing else quite like it. 836 00:34:30,981 --> 00:34:33,723 [loud droning music] 837 00:34:33,767 --> 00:34:35,812 - [screams] 838 00:34:35,856 --> 00:34:38,119 - "Suspiria" just feels weird at all times. 839 00:34:38,163 --> 00:34:40,121 [thunder cracks] 840 00:34:40,165 --> 00:34:42,036 As soon as she walks out of the airport, 841 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,386 the music's going, the wind's blowing way too hard, 842 00:34:44,430 --> 00:34:45,866 and everything's, like, psychedelic, 843 00:34:45,909 --> 00:34:47,781 you're like, "The [bleep] is this crazy movie?" 844 00:34:47,824 --> 00:34:49,478 It's just so awesome. 845 00:34:49,522 --> 00:34:51,611 - You wouldn't understand. 846 00:34:51,654 --> 00:34:54,440 It all seemed so absurd. 847 00:34:54,483 --> 00:34:57,312 [eerie music] 848 00:34:57,356 --> 00:34:59,619 narrator: Suzy Bannion, played by Jessica Harper, 849 00:34:59,662 --> 00:35:04,450 has come to Germany to attend a prestigious dance academy. 850 00:35:04,493 --> 00:35:07,322 She enters a world of supernatural terror. 851 00:35:08,628 --> 00:35:10,369 - [screaming] 852 00:35:10,412 --> 00:35:12,197 narrator: And over the top violence. 853 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:14,112 - [screaming] 854 00:35:14,155 --> 00:35:15,983 - The first, like, ten minutes of "Suspiria" 855 00:35:16,026 --> 00:35:18,899 is really unsettling, 856 00:35:18,942 --> 00:35:22,511 and you don't really know thelogic of the universe we're in. 857 00:35:22,555 --> 00:35:26,733 The sets are kinda, like, fantastical and amazing. 858 00:35:26,776 --> 00:35:28,256 - [screams] 859 00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:30,606 - Incredible eye candy, incredible music. 860 00:35:30,650 --> 00:35:32,173 - [screams] 861 00:35:32,217 --> 00:35:33,305 - And also the shocks are-- 862 00:35:33,348 --> 00:35:35,872 it's so extravagant and gory 863 00:35:35,916 --> 00:35:37,483 and unsettling. 864 00:35:37,526 --> 00:35:40,312 - [screaming] 865 00:35:49,495 --> 00:35:51,497 narrator: After traumatizing the audience 866 00:35:51,540 --> 00:35:53,760 with a brutal double murder, 867 00:35:53,803 --> 00:35:56,850 Argento follows Suzy into the academy. 868 00:35:56,893 --> 00:35:59,200 - Suzy Bannion, our new student. 869 00:35:59,244 --> 00:36:01,071 - Oh, yes. 870 00:36:01,115 --> 00:36:03,813 narrator: Suzy becomes the target of the sinister witches 871 00:36:03,857 --> 00:36:05,293 who run the school. 872 00:36:05,337 --> 00:36:08,992 [unsettling music] 873 00:36:09,036 --> 00:36:13,301 ♪ 874 00:36:13,345 --> 00:36:15,347 - Witch! 875 00:36:15,390 --> 00:36:20,134 ♪ 876 00:36:20,178 --> 00:36:23,529 - One of the really notable elements of "Suspiria" 877 00:36:23,572 --> 00:36:27,054 that is more contemporary than at the time the movie was made 878 00:36:27,097 --> 00:36:30,275 is that it is female-centric. 879 00:36:30,318 --> 00:36:33,974 The protagonists and the antagonists are all female. 880 00:36:34,017 --> 00:36:38,370 - There isn't a patriarchal oppressor in "Suspiria." 881 00:36:38,413 --> 00:36:40,023 - [speaking foreign language] Who's there? 882 00:36:40,067 --> 00:36:41,721 - The power of this movie is matriarchy, 883 00:36:41,764 --> 00:36:44,985 and the hero's journey of it 884 00:36:45,028 --> 00:36:47,466 will have nothing to do with a woman 885 00:36:47,509 --> 00:36:51,078 standing in the face of a man trying to oppress her 886 00:36:51,121 --> 00:36:52,514 or hurt her 887 00:36:52,558 --> 00:36:54,734 because we actually don't even have to consider 888 00:36:54,777 --> 00:36:56,866 the rules and world of men at all. 889 00:36:56,910 --> 00:36:58,564 - Witch! 890 00:36:58,607 --> 00:37:01,262 - They're outside of all of our concerns here. 891 00:37:01,306 --> 00:37:03,438 ♪ 892 00:37:03,482 --> 00:37:05,397 - Witch! 893 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,617 narrator: In "Suspiria," plot takes a back seat to style. 894 00:37:08,661 --> 00:37:10,184 - [gasps] 895 00:37:10,228 --> 00:37:13,405 [screaming] 896 00:37:13,448 --> 00:37:15,668 narrator: The film is like a surreal nightmare 897 00:37:15,711 --> 00:37:18,236 filled with gorgeously photographed murders 898 00:37:18,279 --> 00:37:21,587 set to a heart-pounding and groundbreaking soundtrack 899 00:37:21,630 --> 00:37:23,937 by the band Goblin. 900 00:37:23,980 --> 00:37:26,940 [tense music] 901 00:37:26,983 --> 00:37:30,639 ♪ 902 00:37:30,683 --> 00:37:33,729 - In terms upsetting some of the conventions 903 00:37:33,773 --> 00:37:35,253 of film scoring, 904 00:37:35,296 --> 00:37:37,690 I think "Suspiria's" a really good example... 905 00:37:37,733 --> 00:37:39,344 - [screaming] 906 00:37:39,387 --> 00:37:41,084 - Because a lot of the time, 907 00:37:41,128 --> 00:37:42,956 the music really takes a central, 908 00:37:42,999 --> 00:37:44,697 kind of forefront position. 909 00:37:44,740 --> 00:37:47,613 - [screaming] 910 00:37:49,658 --> 00:37:53,575 - And I think a lot of the negative response to that film 911 00:37:53,619 --> 00:37:56,404 is his aestheticization 912 00:37:56,448 --> 00:37:59,364 of these really horrific acts of violence. 913 00:37:59,407 --> 00:38:02,323 - [screaming] 914 00:38:05,195 --> 00:38:07,502 [horrific musical sting] 915 00:38:10,505 --> 00:38:11,898 - What Dario Argento was really doing, 916 00:38:11,941 --> 00:38:13,378 he was making an adult fairy tale. 917 00:38:15,205 --> 00:38:18,426 It's amazing to see that his inspiration for it 918 00:38:18,470 --> 00:38:20,298 was "Snow White and the Seven Dwarves." 919 00:38:20,341 --> 00:38:23,170 [thunder cracks] 920 00:38:23,213 --> 00:38:26,216 He wanted the color scheme of a Disney film, 921 00:38:26,260 --> 00:38:28,349 and he--he got it. - [gasps] 922 00:38:28,393 --> 00:38:30,351 - It's another externalization 923 00:38:30,395 --> 00:38:32,658 of the fears and the anxieties 924 00:38:32,701 --> 00:38:34,877 that the main character is going through. 925 00:38:34,921 --> 00:38:36,531 - [screams] 926 00:38:36,575 --> 00:38:38,359 - It really was supposed to be, like, a fairy tale, 927 00:38:38,403 --> 00:38:41,797 and originally he wanted young children to be in the film. 928 00:38:41,841 --> 00:38:45,018 He's got the door handles really high on the doors 929 00:38:45,061 --> 00:38:46,846 because he wanted to create certain things 930 00:38:46,889 --> 00:38:49,631 that it seemed as though they were little girls in some way. 931 00:38:49,675 --> 00:38:51,241 ♪ 932 00:38:51,285 --> 00:38:53,113 narrator: Eventually, 933 00:38:53,156 --> 00:38:56,334 Suzy uncovers the dark secrets of the academy. 934 00:38:56,377 --> 00:38:58,858 [suspenseful music] 935 00:38:58,901 --> 00:39:00,729 And she fights for her life 936 00:39:00,773 --> 00:39:02,470 against the coven's invisible queen 937 00:39:02,514 --> 00:39:04,298 and her zombie slave. 938 00:39:05,908 --> 00:39:09,085 - [laughing] 939 00:39:11,653 --> 00:39:13,351 narrator: Like a fairy tale, 940 00:39:13,394 --> 00:39:15,614 good ultimately triumphs over evil. 941 00:39:15,657 --> 00:39:17,442 - [shouts] 942 00:39:17,485 --> 00:39:19,748 - [agonized moaning] 943 00:39:19,792 --> 00:39:21,533 - [gasps] 944 00:39:21,576 --> 00:39:24,884 - That movie was taking the modern slasher genre 945 00:39:24,927 --> 00:39:27,147 and turning it into high art, 946 00:39:27,190 --> 00:39:29,410 and I feel like the horror genre 947 00:39:29,454 --> 00:39:32,370 is just now really beginning to catch up 948 00:39:32,413 --> 00:39:33,719 with the simple idea 949 00:39:33,762 --> 00:39:36,635 of high aspirational art 950 00:39:36,678 --> 00:39:38,506 in American horror cinema. 951 00:39:38,550 --> 00:39:41,422 [chilling music] 952 00:39:41,466 --> 00:39:43,642 ♪ 953 00:39:43,685 --> 00:39:47,428 Luca Guadagnino's recent update of "Suspiria" 954 00:39:47,472 --> 00:39:51,214 swaps Argento's bright colors for muted earth tones, 955 00:39:51,258 --> 00:39:53,086 and a serpentine plot. 956 00:39:53,129 --> 00:39:54,653 ♪ 957 00:39:54,696 --> 00:39:56,959 - I like the original "Suspiria," 958 00:39:57,003 --> 00:39:58,570 just 'cause it's gorgeous, 959 00:39:58,613 --> 00:40:00,310 but I will say in the remake, 960 00:40:00,354 --> 00:40:02,095 I felt like they made much better use of the dancing. 961 00:40:02,138 --> 00:40:04,402 [eerie piano music] 962 00:40:04,445 --> 00:40:06,882 - [moaning and crying] 963 00:40:06,926 --> 00:40:09,798 [eerie music] 964 00:40:09,842 --> 00:40:11,931 ♪ 965 00:40:11,974 --> 00:40:15,108 narrator: Rather than pitting Suzy against the witches, 966 00:40:15,151 --> 00:40:18,067 Guadagnino puts her in the middle of a battle 967 00:40:18,111 --> 00:40:20,548 in between Madame Blanc and Helena Markos, 968 00:40:20,592 --> 00:40:24,465 good and evil witches vying to run the academy. 969 00:40:24,509 --> 00:40:26,424 [horrific musical sting] - [screams] 970 00:40:26,467 --> 00:40:28,817 [scary music] 971 00:40:28,861 --> 00:40:30,689 - I liked that struggle for power 972 00:40:30,732 --> 00:40:33,300 between these two feminine forces. 973 00:40:33,343 --> 00:40:36,085 You have essentially, like, an election drama 974 00:40:36,129 --> 00:40:38,827 between Markos and Blanc 975 00:40:38,871 --> 00:40:42,091 that culminates in a black Sabbath scene 976 00:40:42,135 --> 00:40:43,832 that's like, "Yeah, give me election drama 977 00:40:43,876 --> 00:40:46,269 "with people's heads literally exploding off their bodies 978 00:40:46,313 --> 00:40:48,837 in a chamber covered in women's hair." 979 00:40:52,058 --> 00:40:54,016 I'll watch that seven out of seven days a week. 980 00:40:54,060 --> 00:40:55,496 - [moans] 981 00:40:55,540 --> 00:40:58,107 ♪ 982 00:40:58,151 --> 00:41:00,545 - It's not common in other genres 983 00:41:00,588 --> 00:41:04,113 to see women as powerful and dangerous. 984 00:41:04,157 --> 00:41:05,288 - Find him. 985 00:41:05,332 --> 00:41:07,377 - [screams] 986 00:41:07,421 --> 00:41:10,685 - And to watch them take back that power and use it 987 00:41:10,729 --> 00:41:12,426 to break free 988 00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:14,776 is really exciting. 989 00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:16,517 narrator: Young 990 00:41:16,561 --> 00:41:18,127 or old, 991 00:41:18,171 --> 00:41:20,695 cruel or kind, 992 00:41:20,739 --> 00:41:24,656 witches embody the magic and mystery of femininity. 993 00:41:26,571 --> 00:41:27,833 They command our respect. 994 00:41:27,876 --> 00:41:29,530 - Oh, God! 995 00:41:29,574 --> 00:41:31,314 narrator: And remind us 996 00:41:31,358 --> 00:41:32,925 that the people who brought us into this world... 997 00:41:34,666 --> 00:41:36,319 Can also take us out of it. 998 00:41:36,363 --> 00:41:37,973 - You're doomed forever! 999 00:41:38,017 --> 00:41:39,497 - [screams] 1000 00:41:39,540 --> 00:41:42,369 - [screams] [thumps] 71399

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