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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,033 --> 00:00:09,366 [vehicle horns honking, siren blaring] 2 00:00:09,366 --> 00:00:15,733 [music] 3 00:00:15,966 --> 00:00:20,366 Ari Wallach: The most important thing for any human being 4 00:00:20,366 --> 00:00:22,200 is to be with other human beings. 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,100 We are not solitary creatures. 6 00:00:24,100 --> 00:00:26,100 We are not individuals in the way 7 00:00:26,100 --> 00:00:28,300 that we think of it or the stories that we tell. 8 00:00:28,300 --> 00:00:32,066 Evidence shows us that we have been traveling and moving 9 00:00:32,066 --> 00:00:36,066 in groups as far back as we can actually find 10 00:00:36,066 --> 00:00:39,066 skeletons and bones in caves. 11 00:00:39,066 --> 00:00:43,200 Humans feel the most in themselves, the most happy, 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,200 the most joyful when they're 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,200 actually in large groups together. 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,300 We're all kind of focused and aligned. 15 00:00:49,300 --> 00:00:51,366 We're actually having a sense of awe 16 00:00:51,366 --> 00:00:53,300 at whatever is happening. 17 00:00:53,300 --> 00:00:56,400 We find that when people are at certain events together, 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,600 that eventually their hearts are actually beating in unison. 19 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:03,766 What we are meant to be is to be in groups together. 20 00:01:03,766 --> 00:01:05,600 It's who and what we are. 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,266 Drake: โ™ช Listen โ™ช 22 00:01:07,266 --> 00:01:11,066 โ™ช Seeing you got ritualistic โ™ช 23 00:01:11,066 --> 00:01:15,133 โ™ช Cleansing my soul of addiction for now โ™ช 24 00:01:15,133 --> 00:01:18,100 โ™ช 'Cause I'm falling apart โ™ช 25 00:01:21,266 --> 00:01:24,100 โ™ช Yeah, tension 26 00:01:24,100 --> 00:01:28,266 โ™ช Between us just like picket fences โ™ช 27 00:01:28,266 --> 00:01:32,100 โ™ช You got issues that I won't mention for now โ™ช 28 00:01:32,100 --> 00:01:34,766 โ™ช 'Cause we're falling apart โ™ช 29 00:01:39,100 --> 00:01:42,266 โ™ช Passionate from miles away 30 00:01:42,266 --> 00:01:45,600 โ™ช Passive with the things you say โ™ช 31 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:48,133 โ™ช Passing up on my old ways โ™ช 32 00:01:48,133 --> 00:01:52,766 โ™ช I can't blame you, no, no โ™ช 33 00:01:58,300 --> 00:02:08,166 [music] 34 00:02:08,166 --> 00:02:10,500 Wallach: So there's two things that Homo sapiens do 35 00:02:10,500 --> 00:02:14,333 fundamentally better than almost any other species 36 00:02:14,333 --> 00:02:15,833 on Planet Earth. 37 00:02:15,833 --> 00:02:17,666 It's to work together, to cooperate, 38 00:02:17,666 --> 00:02:19,666 and also a sense of prospection, 39 00:02:19,666 --> 00:02:20,833 actually, to think about the future. 40 00:02:20,833 --> 00:02:23,200 And those are inextricably linked. 41 00:02:25,433 --> 00:02:28,833 As my journey continues, everywhere I go, 42 00:02:28,833 --> 00:02:31,800 I'm struck by how similar we all really are. 43 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,700 We want to connect, to belong, and to see ourselves 44 00:02:34,700 --> 00:02:37,166 as a part of a team or a tribe. 45 00:02:37,166 --> 00:02:39,333 Why is this sense of togetherness so central 46 00:02:39,333 --> 00:02:41,833 to who we are, and what does it mean 47 00:02:41,833 --> 00:02:43,800 in a moment when that's often not reflected 48 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:45,833 in the world around us? 49 00:02:45,833 --> 00:02:48,200 How can we build on the best parts of who we are 50 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,533 in order to create the future we want to see 51 00:02:50,533 --> 00:02:52,533 and leave behind? 52 00:02:54,366 --> 00:02:58,366 That's led me to Japan, headed out to a small island 53 00:02:58,366 --> 00:03:00,400 I've read about for years. 54 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,566 Coming here is a dream come true, 55 00:03:02,566 --> 00:03:04,733 as this quiet, distant place is 56 00:03:04,733 --> 00:03:06,833 home to a troupe of world-renowned drummers, 57 00:03:06,833 --> 00:03:09,400 who've always struck me as a beautiful picture 58 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,100 of what's possible when individuals come together 59 00:03:12,100 --> 00:03:14,833 to create something they could never achieve on their own. 60 00:03:14,833 --> 00:03:17,666 [people vocalizing] 61 00:03:17,666 --> 00:03:47,400 โ™ช 62 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:50,100 [scraping and clanking] 63 00:03:55,733 --> 00:03:58,100 Leo Ikenaga: My name is Leo Ikenaga, 64 00:03:58,100 --> 00:04:00,633 and I'm a performer for Kodo. 65 00:04:00,633 --> 00:04:04,166 Kodo is a Japanese drumming ensemble. 66 00:04:04,166 --> 00:04:06,300 Japanese drumming is called taiko. 67 00:04:06,300 --> 00:04:09,300 And we are a group that uses the taiko, 68 00:04:09,300 --> 00:04:14,300 but we try to incorporate different traditional, 69 00:04:14,300 --> 00:04:17,133 cultural elements that are native to Japan. 70 00:04:17,133 --> 00:04:20,166 And we try to kind of create something new out of it. 71 00:04:20,166 --> 00:04:22,333 We travel all over the world 72 00:04:22,333 --> 00:04:26,133 and perform and work with a lot of different artists. 73 00:04:26,133 --> 00:04:28,133 And we're just trying to create something new 74 00:04:28,133 --> 00:04:30,633 from this Japanese tradition. 75 00:04:30,633 --> 00:04:36,466 โ™ช 76 00:04:45,666 --> 00:04:48,200 Wallach: What does it take for someone to join Kodo? 77 00:04:48,633 --> 00:04:52,166 So, to join Kodo, you first have to complete 78 00:04:52,166 --> 00:04:53,466 a two-year apprenticeship. 79 00:04:53,466 --> 00:04:55,800 And then you become a junior member, 80 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:57,800 and then you become a full-time member. 81 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,133 And the two-year apprenticeship is 82 00:05:01,133 --> 00:05:03,100 a very, very rigorous process. 83 00:05:03,100 --> 00:05:04,366 You're living 84 00:05:04,366 --> 00:05:09,200 in an abandoned 70-year-old middle school 85 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,733 with 15 to 20 other people. 86 00:05:11,733 --> 00:05:13,200 You have no privacy. 87 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:16,133 You have no phones, no TV, no Internet. 88 00:05:16,133 --> 00:05:18,400 And you wake up at 5:00 in the morning. 89 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,533 You run every day. You plant your own rice. 90 00:05:21,533 --> 00:05:26,066 You harvest your own food, and then you practice all day. 91 00:05:26,066 --> 00:05:29,200 And you do that for two years. 92 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,100 So it's a pretty crazy process, 93 00:05:32,100 --> 00:05:34,833 but it's a great opportunity 94 00:05:34,833 --> 00:05:37,533 to get in touch with yourself, 95 00:05:37,533 --> 00:05:40,066 because you're constantly under pressure 96 00:05:40,066 --> 00:05:44,066 and you're constantly under stress. 97 00:05:44,066 --> 00:05:47,366 Right now there are about 15 apprentices. 98 00:05:47,366 --> 00:05:50,366 Maybe one or two will make it into the troupe, 99 00:05:50,366 --> 00:05:53,233 so it's very, very selective. 100 00:05:53,233 --> 00:05:56,833 But the beautiful thing is, these apprentices, 101 00:05:56,833 --> 00:06:00,433 even though maybe one or two make it into the group, 102 00:06:00,433 --> 00:06:02,433 they have to work together. 103 00:06:02,433 --> 00:06:04,466 They have to cook for each other. 104 00:06:04,466 --> 00:06:08,066 They have to perform with each other, 105 00:06:08,066 --> 00:06:11,133 because we're never looking at them individually. 106 00:06:11,133 --> 00:06:12,533 We're evaluating them 107 00:06:12,533 --> 00:06:15,433 based on how well they work with others, 108 00:06:15,433 --> 00:06:18,133 how much they improve others. 109 00:06:18,133 --> 00:06:20,766 It's hard to see that when you're in the apprenticeship, 110 00:06:20,766 --> 00:06:24,200 but once you become a member, it's very apparent, 111 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,433 because, you know, when we're performing, 112 00:06:26,433 --> 00:06:30,366 you have to be in sync with everyone without a conductor. 113 00:06:30,366 --> 00:06:33,700 So these apprentices, they're constantly 114 00:06:33,700 --> 00:06:37,266 fighting and competing with each other. 115 00:06:37,266 --> 00:06:39,133 But at the same time, they have to be, 116 00:06:39,133 --> 00:06:41,633 like, very, very close-knit with each other. 117 00:06:41,633 --> 00:06:43,100 So it's difficult, 118 00:06:43,100 --> 00:06:46,766 but a very, very rewarding journey. 119 00:06:49,100 --> 00:06:52,300 Wallach: What's possible when you move 120 00:06:52,300 --> 00:06:54,433 from being kind of a solo player 121 00:06:54,433 --> 00:06:56,433 to being an ensemble? 122 00:06:56,433 --> 00:06:58,100 What is it that you're able to do 123 00:06:58,100 --> 00:06:59,600 that you couldn't do alone? 124 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,833 Ikenaga: You're able to create something that you 125 00:07:01,833 --> 00:07:03,500 could never do by yourself. 126 00:07:03,500 --> 00:07:07,066 You are able to put yourself into a situation 127 00:07:07,066 --> 00:07:08,700 where you strive to be better 128 00:07:08,700 --> 00:07:11,666 and you strive to make others better. 129 00:07:11,666 --> 00:07:16,333 And it's this process that we go through every day. 130 00:07:16,333 --> 00:07:18,333 It's really hard to do that alone. 131 00:07:18,333 --> 00:07:19,800 It's possible. 132 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,800 But when you have someone next to you 133 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,500 that's drumming their heart out 134 00:07:24,500 --> 00:07:26,666 and they're doing the best that they can 135 00:07:26,666 --> 00:07:28,800 and they're doing it every day, 136 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:33,800 you want to be like that person. 137 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:35,833 Yeah, it's pretty incredible. 138 00:07:35,833 --> 00:07:53,500 โ™ช 139 00:07:53,500 --> 00:07:55,500 Wallach, voice-over: Being here and experiencing 140 00:07:55,500 --> 00:07:58,800 how the drummers live and work together is moving. 141 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,400 And it makes me wonder just how much we've lost 142 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,733 in the pursuit of seeing ourselves as individuals 143 00:08:03,733 --> 00:08:05,733 above all else. 144 00:08:05,733 --> 00:08:09,400 In a time when distrust feels more common than trust, 145 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,733 what kind of collective price are we paying? 146 00:08:11,733 --> 00:08:13,733 And what type of futures are waiting 147 00:08:13,733 --> 00:08:16,233 on the other side of us coming to see ourselves as connected, 148 00:08:16,233 --> 00:08:18,100 not alone? 149 00:08:21,266 --> 00:08:24,600 Man: We are the only species in the animal kingdom 150 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,800 with the ability to blush, 151 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:28,566 which is, I think, a telling fact. 152 00:08:28,566 --> 00:08:30,600 We involuntarily give away our feelings 153 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,600 to other members of our species in order to establish trust. 154 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,600 We are the only species among primates 155 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:39,833 with white eyes, right? 156 00:08:39,833 --> 00:08:41,400 So that means people can see-- 157 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,133 I'm looking in the camera right now. 158 00:08:43,133 --> 00:08:44,600 If I was a chimpanzee, 159 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,766 that would have been much more difficult. 160 00:08:46,766 --> 00:08:48,766 I'm looking to the left. Now I'm looking to the right. 161 00:08:48,766 --> 00:08:51,733 So I'm involuntarily giving away my gaze, 162 00:08:51,733 --> 00:08:55,233 which, again, helps to establish trust. 163 00:08:55,233 --> 00:08:57,133 So it's in our biology. 164 00:08:57,133 --> 00:09:02,166 It's in our DNA that we've been optimized for trust. 165 00:09:02,166 --> 00:09:05,166 You want to feel like the social system of which you're 166 00:09:05,166 --> 00:09:08,133 a member and a participant has something 167 00:09:08,133 --> 00:09:09,833 legitimate, fair, desirable, good, 168 00:09:09,833 --> 00:09:11,300 something worthy about it. 169 00:09:11,300 --> 00:09:13,566 We want to feel like our sports team is 170 00:09:13,566 --> 00:09:15,666 better than the other sports teams. 171 00:09:15,666 --> 00:09:18,300 We want to feel our town or our city is better than others 172 00:09:18,300 --> 00:09:20,466 or our university or college is better than others. 173 00:09:20,466 --> 00:09:23,133 It could also be a racial or ethnic group 174 00:09:23,133 --> 00:09:25,133 or other kinds of social groups. 175 00:09:25,133 --> 00:09:27,300 That's where the tribalism comes in. 176 00:09:27,300 --> 00:09:29,166 Rutger Bregman: We have created systems 177 00:09:29,166 --> 00:09:31,166 that increase the distance 178 00:09:31,166 --> 00:09:33,500 between people, right, increases the distance between 179 00:09:33,500 --> 00:09:36,300 people on the work floor and the managers, 180 00:09:36,300 --> 00:09:39,166 between the citizens and the politicians. 181 00:09:39,166 --> 00:09:41,166 The longer the distance becomes, 182 00:09:41,166 --> 00:09:43,833 both physical distance and psychological distance, 183 00:09:43,833 --> 00:09:46,333 the more difficult it becomes to trust one another. 184 00:09:46,333 --> 00:09:48,133 So that's what we have. 185 00:09:48,133 --> 00:09:51,233 We have a deepening crisis of trust. 186 00:09:52,733 --> 00:09:55,066 Person: Listen, why must we divide? 187 00:09:55,066 --> 00:09:56,800 Why are we dividing people? 188 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,166 [indistinct shouting] 189 00:10:00,166 --> 00:10:04,400 [both speaking Georgian] 190 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,800 You're completely destroying our city! 191 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,166 You come down-- 192 00:10:09,166 --> 00:10:10,833 Reporter: Things got so heated that 193 00:10:10,833 --> 00:10:13,333 the board members eventually walked out, 194 00:10:13,333 --> 00:10:15,800 leaving the police to deal with the unruly crowd. 195 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:17,633 Different person: I was so disgusted, like, 196 00:10:17,633 --> 00:10:19,633 that people would do this. 197 00:10:19,633 --> 00:10:22,833 People: Close the border! Close the border! 198 00:10:22,833 --> 00:10:24,300 Close the border! 199 00:10:24,300 --> 00:10:26,300 ...for 20 years. 200 00:10:26,300 --> 00:10:27,800 You're just screaming... 201 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,233 I was screaming... 202 00:10:29,233 --> 00:10:31,300 Come on. No one's giving me free food. 203 00:10:31,300 --> 00:10:33,633 No one's giving me free housing. 204 00:10:33,633 --> 00:10:37,300 We do a tax-- I need order. 205 00:10:37,300 --> 00:10:40,100 Right? This is what everyone does. 206 00:10:40,100 --> 00:10:41,400 [overlapping chatter] 207 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,166 Woman: OK. Time-out. Time-out. 208 00:10:44,166 --> 00:10:46,166 [chatter continues] 209 00:10:46,166 --> 00:10:50,333 [people chanting indistinctly] 210 00:10:54,633 --> 00:10:56,633 Wallach: We've always had disagreements, 211 00:10:56,633 --> 00:11:00,066 but something more serious is happening here. 212 00:11:00,066 --> 00:11:02,833 The ideas and institutions that govern our societies-- 213 00:11:02,833 --> 00:11:07,066 long taken for granted-- have begun being challenged 214 00:11:07,066 --> 00:11:09,066 in new and unsettling ways. 215 00:11:09,833 --> 00:11:13,066 Here at Stanford University, Alice Siu 216 00:11:13,066 --> 00:11:16,066 is working with her team at the Deliberative Democracy Lab 217 00:11:16,066 --> 00:11:18,533 to better understand where we are right now 218 00:11:18,533 --> 00:11:22,200 and what we can do to create lasting change moving forward. 219 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,700 What is the state of democracy today? 220 00:11:24,700 --> 00:11:28,366 Many will say democracy is in crisis. 221 00:11:28,366 --> 00:11:31,700 A lot of democracies around the world are backsliding, 222 00:11:31,700 --> 00:11:34,533 and we have trouble trying to figure out 223 00:11:34,533 --> 00:11:36,366 what a lot of people actually want, 224 00:11:36,366 --> 00:11:37,833 what kind of system of government 225 00:11:37,833 --> 00:11:39,533 people want to live in. 226 00:11:39,533 --> 00:11:42,833 But I think, as of today, a lot of people 227 00:11:42,833 --> 00:11:46,700 are concerned about whether their voices are being heard 228 00:11:46,700 --> 00:11:49,533 and if people are really representing 229 00:11:49,533 --> 00:11:51,833 their likes and dislikes. 230 00:11:51,833 --> 00:11:55,366 Wallach: But Alice also sees an opportunity here, 231 00:11:55,366 --> 00:11:58,200 a chance for new and needed ideas 232 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,433 around how to improve our democracies 233 00:12:00,433 --> 00:12:02,600 in order to better face the future 234 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,600 and engage directly with the citizens they serve. 235 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,766 A growing set of ideas known as deliberative democracy 236 00:12:09,766 --> 00:12:13,600 are beginning to take hold in countries around the world... 237 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,433 like here in France, where they've started holding 238 00:12:17,433 --> 00:12:21,100 citizen conventions--forums designed to better engage 239 00:12:21,100 --> 00:12:23,100 their citizens in addressing 240 00:12:23,100 --> 00:12:26,100 the major challenges and opportunities before them. 241 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,133 Wallach: So how did this all first come about 242 00:12:30,133 --> 00:12:31,200 here in France? 243 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,100 Look, I mean, first, we had this yellow vest crisis 244 00:12:34,100 --> 00:12:35,466 in France, 245 00:12:35,466 --> 00:12:38,433 a crisis of working classes in France. 246 00:12:38,433 --> 00:12:40,433 You have a lot of fears and anxieties, 247 00:12:40,433 --> 00:12:44,100 climate change, digitalization, geopolitics. 248 00:12:44,100 --> 00:12:47,100 And a lot of people in small cities and so on 249 00:12:47,100 --> 00:12:51,100 having this feeling not to be respected by our policies, 250 00:12:51,100 --> 00:12:53,433 not to have a place anymore in this world, 251 00:12:53,433 --> 00:12:56,300 and not to be prepared for this change. 252 00:12:56,300 --> 00:12:58,100 So I made this tour, 253 00:12:58,100 --> 00:13:00,800 and I launched a series of citizen conventions. 254 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:05,333 On a random basis, you take 100, 200 citizens 255 00:13:05,333 --> 00:13:07,333 and you formulate a question. 256 00:13:07,333 --> 00:13:09,500 You put them in a situation to have 257 00:13:09,500 --> 00:13:13,166 a lot of interactions with experts. 258 00:13:13,166 --> 00:13:15,666 They propose a solution, 259 00:13:15,666 --> 00:13:19,166 which is based on a consensus and collective intelligence 260 00:13:19,166 --> 00:13:22,500 and ability to understand the complexity of the problem. 261 00:13:22,500 --> 00:13:24,500 So I did it on climate change. 262 00:13:24,500 --> 00:13:26,500 It worked because we passed a law after that 263 00:13:26,500 --> 00:13:28,833 largely inspired by the citizen convention, 264 00:13:28,833 --> 00:13:32,333 and the feedback was very positive. 265 00:13:32,333 --> 00:13:34,333 They learned. 266 00:13:34,333 --> 00:13:37,666 They were very committed, but they respected each other. 267 00:13:37,666 --> 00:13:41,166 But for me, this is a constant work in progress 268 00:13:41,166 --> 00:13:43,500 because it's never perfect. 269 00:13:43,500 --> 00:13:44,633 But where I'm really optimistic 270 00:13:44,633 --> 00:13:48,833 is that you can have emotions, positive and negative, 271 00:13:48,833 --> 00:13:51,800 and argumentation and rational discussion 272 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,500 to be merged together 273 00:13:53,500 --> 00:13:55,333 regarding our collective future. 274 00:13:55,333 --> 00:13:57,333 Wallach, voice-over: Back in the U.S., Alice and her team 275 00:13:57,333 --> 00:13:59,700 have pioneered something with similar ideas in mind. 276 00:13:59,900 --> 00:14:01,400 Wallach: Your team put together an event 277 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:02,733 called America in One Room. 278 00:14:02,733 --> 00:14:04,100 What was that? 279 00:14:04,100 --> 00:14:08,266 It was a four-day-long deliberative poll, 280 00:14:08,266 --> 00:14:11,733 where we gathered a nationally representative sample. 281 00:14:11,733 --> 00:14:13,566 We flew them in to Dallas, Texas, 282 00:14:13,566 --> 00:14:15,233 from across the country. 283 00:14:15,233 --> 00:14:20,233 There were 523 people that came from all walks of life, 284 00:14:20,233 --> 00:14:23,400 and they gathered together in small groups. 285 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,566 They deliberated about immigration, 286 00:14:26,566 --> 00:14:28,400 economy, foreign policy. 287 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:31,566 And for four days, they discussed 288 00:14:31,566 --> 00:14:33,733 in their small groups about these topics, 289 00:14:33,733 --> 00:14:35,566 and then they had panels of experts. 290 00:14:35,566 --> 00:14:39,066 And, actually, five then-presidential candidates 291 00:14:39,066 --> 00:14:40,400 answer their questions. 292 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,066 What we learned from 500-plus people is 293 00:14:43,066 --> 00:14:47,066 that people can and will change their minds 294 00:14:47,066 --> 00:14:50,233 after just four days of being with each other. 295 00:14:50,233 --> 00:14:54,100 We learned that those that may have had extreme positions 296 00:14:54,100 --> 00:14:58,100 on either side of the spectrum actually moderated 297 00:14:58,100 --> 00:15:00,800 and became closer to each other. 298 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:03,500 We learned that after deliberation together, 299 00:15:03,500 --> 00:15:05,466 they liked each other more. 300 00:15:05,466 --> 00:15:07,466 They came to understand 301 00:15:07,466 --> 00:15:12,300 why the other person held certain views. 302 00:15:12,300 --> 00:15:15,166 President Macron: I think, especially on a local basis, 303 00:15:15,166 --> 00:15:17,800 we have to find a way to involve citizens, 304 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,333 make them much more player of the game 305 00:15:20,333 --> 00:15:22,633 and doer of our democracies. 306 00:15:22,633 --> 00:15:25,466 Wallach: Paint a picture for me of the democracy 307 00:15:25,466 --> 00:15:27,633 that you want to see. 308 00:15:27,633 --> 00:15:30,166 We don't have to live like this today. 309 00:15:30,166 --> 00:15:34,633 We can change it now, and we can have those conversations 310 00:15:34,633 --> 00:15:36,166 that build empathy. 311 00:15:36,166 --> 00:15:37,800 We can have those structured conversations. 312 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,166 We can build those skills. 313 00:15:40,166 --> 00:15:43,466 And if we just start somewhere and not wait, 314 00:15:43,466 --> 00:15:45,800 then we can really get to that future 315 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,800 where everyone actually listens to each other 316 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,300 and our democracy is held together 317 00:15:51,300 --> 00:15:54,166 by everyone that's involved. 318 00:15:54,166 --> 00:15:56,800 [applause] 319 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,166 Man: It's the organization of humanity, 320 00:15:59,166 --> 00:16:02,066 the self-organization of humanity 321 00:16:02,066 --> 00:16:05,100 which is the key change that needs to happen. 322 00:16:05,100 --> 00:16:07,700 Now, we live in this extraordinary situation 323 00:16:07,700 --> 00:16:09,833 where a tiny number of people, 324 00:16:09,833 --> 00:16:12,066 which calls itself a government, 325 00:16:12,066 --> 00:16:13,833 claims to be able to control 326 00:16:13,833 --> 00:16:18,366 this complex system that we call society from the center. 327 00:16:18,366 --> 00:16:20,700 There is no complex system on Earth 328 00:16:20,700 --> 00:16:23,200 that can be controlled from the center. 329 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:24,833 It can't possibly work. 330 00:16:24,833 --> 00:16:28,066 And yet at the same time, we have this tremendous capacity 331 00:16:28,066 --> 00:16:32,066 for participatory, for deliberative democracy, 332 00:16:32,066 --> 00:16:35,700 where we can come together and make decisions together 333 00:16:35,700 --> 00:16:37,533 for the good of all. 334 00:16:37,533 --> 00:16:40,366 And where we've been allowed to do this, 335 00:16:40,366 --> 00:16:44,533 if only on a small scale, or a partial scale, 336 00:16:44,533 --> 00:16:46,833 the results have been extraordinary. 337 00:16:46,833 --> 00:16:48,533 โ™ช 338 00:16:48,533 --> 00:16:51,533 Rutger Bregman: I think it's quite clear that we are living 339 00:16:51,533 --> 00:16:55,066 through probably the most dangerous century 340 00:16:55,066 --> 00:16:57,100 in the history of our species. 341 00:16:57,100 --> 00:16:59,100 It could also be the most prosperous century 342 00:16:59,100 --> 00:17:02,133 and the most exciting century to be alive. 343 00:17:02,133 --> 00:17:05,166 What we need are people who are willing and able 344 00:17:05,166 --> 00:17:07,133 to look forward to a future that could be 345 00:17:07,133 --> 00:17:10,600 so, so much better than the world we live in today. 346 00:17:12,100 --> 00:17:13,600 Wallach: In some ways right now, 347 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:17,133 that can feel naive, even impossible. 348 00:17:17,133 --> 00:17:19,133 But this idea of building on our desire 349 00:17:19,133 --> 00:17:22,133 for connection and cooperation can begin anywhere. 350 00:17:22,133 --> 00:17:23,600 And that's what's led me to Nashville, 351 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,600 where Reverend Jennifer Bailey is working to create 352 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,133 new forms of community 353 00:17:29,133 --> 00:17:32,133 to reach across what feels like a growing divide. 354 00:17:32,133 --> 00:17:34,100 It used to be, you know, 355 00:17:34,100 --> 00:17:36,066 we kind of find some common ground. 356 00:17:36,066 --> 00:17:38,300 We kind of live together. We broke bread together. 357 00:17:38,300 --> 00:17:40,100 Now it just seems ripped apart. 358 00:17:40,100 --> 00:17:43,600 What do you attribute that to? 359 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,766 It's feeling--it feels very strong right now. 360 00:17:46,766 --> 00:17:48,300 Yeah. 361 00:17:48,300 --> 00:17:50,266 People are experiencing, in the U.S. context at least, 362 00:17:50,266 --> 00:17:53,266 higher rates of loneliness and isolation than ever before. 363 00:17:53,266 --> 00:17:55,600 And where they find community can often be 364 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,433 in these online pockets, 365 00:17:57,433 --> 00:18:01,333 where they're getting talked to by the same folks. 366 00:18:01,333 --> 00:18:03,366 And, see, the world becomes-- 367 00:18:03,366 --> 00:18:05,666 rather than becoming bigger and having spaces 368 00:18:05,666 --> 00:18:08,800 where people can hear more in the marketplace of ideas, 369 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:11,166 it becomes smaller and more rigid. 370 00:18:11,166 --> 00:18:13,833 And then you, like, make the fool's errand 371 00:18:13,833 --> 00:18:15,833 of believing everybody thinks like you. 372 00:18:15,833 --> 00:18:18,666 And the person who doesn't, then, must be my enemy. 373 00:18:18,666 --> 00:18:20,333 Tell me about the work that you're doing 374 00:18:20,333 --> 00:18:22,166 and how you kind of got started in it. 375 00:18:22,166 --> 00:18:24,200 Yeah, so the People's Supper was a project 376 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:27,166 that I co-founded with two friends 377 00:18:27,166 --> 00:18:30,166 after the 2016 U.S. presidential election. 378 00:18:30,166 --> 00:18:33,266 We wanted to create spaces around dinner tables 379 00:18:33,266 --> 00:18:35,800 for people to begin having conversations 380 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,666 across lines of difference, 381 00:18:37,666 --> 00:18:39,833 whether that be political, ideological, religious, 382 00:18:39,833 --> 00:18:41,666 racial difference. 383 00:18:41,666 --> 00:18:44,433 We've hosted thousands of suppers around the country. 384 00:18:44,433 --> 00:18:47,533 And I think at the core of those suppers 385 00:18:47,533 --> 00:18:51,433 and our time together is really an ability 386 00:18:51,433 --> 00:18:54,600 for people to hear each other and not just deeper speech, 387 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,333 but deeper personhood, 388 00:18:56,333 --> 00:18:58,333 to be reminded of the fact 389 00:18:58,333 --> 00:19:00,433 that we are not just how we vote 390 00:19:00,433 --> 00:19:03,233 or how we look, but that we are a collection of stories 391 00:19:03,233 --> 00:19:05,400 and that our story is not individual 392 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,233 but the continuation of other stories 393 00:19:08,233 --> 00:19:11,066 and prologue to the stories that are to come, 394 00:19:11,066 --> 00:19:14,100 even if it's just for one meal. 395 00:19:14,100 --> 00:19:17,066 Wallach, voice-over: While I was in town, Jennifer invited me 396 00:19:17,066 --> 00:19:19,066 to one of these dinner parties, 397 00:19:19,066 --> 00:19:20,733 joining a small group of people 398 00:19:20,733 --> 00:19:23,233 from various walks of life and different backgrounds 399 00:19:23,233 --> 00:19:26,233 to sit down together for a shared meal. 400 00:19:26,233 --> 00:19:29,000 [indistinct chatter] 401 00:19:32,066 --> 00:19:34,333 We're gonna have a fun conversation tonight. 402 00:19:34,333 --> 00:19:36,233 I like to say you all are joining, 403 00:19:36,233 --> 00:19:38,100 whether you knew it or not, a movement of people 404 00:19:38,100 --> 00:19:39,766 who've been gathering around the country 405 00:19:39,766 --> 00:19:43,266 over the past six years almost. 406 00:19:43,266 --> 00:19:46,166 Well, just to toast you all, thank you for being here. 407 00:19:46,166 --> 00:19:48,500 So grateful for this time together. 408 00:19:48,500 --> 00:19:51,400 Wallach, voice-over: That night, I experienced something 409 00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:53,266 so simple and yet profound. 410 00:19:53,266 --> 00:19:55,600 I witnessed a group of strangers, 411 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:58,100 who in some ways have nothing in common, 412 00:19:58,100 --> 00:20:00,833 come to see the common humanity they all share. 413 00:20:00,833 --> 00:20:03,433 Our past and our stories are unique, 414 00:20:03,433 --> 00:20:05,666 and yet what we want to see unfold in the future, 415 00:20:05,666 --> 00:20:08,233 for ourselves and for those we love, 416 00:20:08,233 --> 00:20:12,233 is so much more alike than what we often stop to consider. 417 00:20:12,233 --> 00:20:14,433 I really feel like we're at a period of rebirthing 418 00:20:14,433 --> 00:20:16,100 and remaking the world. 419 00:20:16,100 --> 00:20:18,333 And we see that 420 00:20:18,333 --> 00:20:20,733 with the intensity of the climate crisis. 421 00:20:20,733 --> 00:20:22,166 We see that 422 00:20:22,166 --> 00:20:24,733 with threats to the notion of democracy globally. 423 00:20:24,733 --> 00:20:28,400 We're at a real inflection point in global history. 424 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,733 I find myself asking, 425 00:20:30,733 --> 00:20:34,066 What does it mean to be human in the future? 426 00:20:34,066 --> 00:20:37,600 What are the things that aren't replaceable? 427 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,100 And care for one another feels like something 428 00:20:41,100 --> 00:20:44,233 that we will never be able to fully replace. 429 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,233 Wallach: For tens of thousands of years, even for centuries, 430 00:20:50,233 --> 00:20:52,400 we would live kind of collectively 431 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,100 in relatively dense accommodation. 432 00:20:55,100 --> 00:20:57,733 Even just in the past 150 years, 433 00:20:57,733 --> 00:21:00,100 many of us began living in cities, 434 00:21:00,100 --> 00:21:01,466 but something happened, 435 00:21:01,466 --> 00:21:04,300 especially in America after World War II. 436 00:21:04,300 --> 00:21:08,166 We had returning GIs and a rapidly expanding population 437 00:21:08,166 --> 00:21:10,133 with not enough housing. 438 00:21:10,133 --> 00:21:11,800 A lot of these people 439 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,466 needed to be close to cities for jobs, 440 00:21:13,466 --> 00:21:16,133 and so the cities gave way to surrounding suburbs. 441 00:21:16,133 --> 00:21:19,133 You and I live in a period of tremendous growth 442 00:21:19,133 --> 00:21:20,800 with many problems. 443 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,466 Across the United States, 444 00:21:23,466 --> 00:21:26,133 new homes are springing up by the thousands 445 00:21:26,133 --> 00:21:28,133 for our rapidly growing population. 446 00:21:28,133 --> 00:21:30,800 Modern shopping centers satisfy most 447 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,333 of the material needs of suburban dwellers 448 00:21:33,333 --> 00:21:38,133 who no longer depend on the city as a retail center. 449 00:21:38,133 --> 00:21:40,466 Wallach: Now, the suburbs could only happen in America 450 00:21:40,466 --> 00:21:42,633 with the advent of the vehicle. 451 00:21:42,633 --> 00:21:46,166 We needed vehicles to live in these new kind of communities. 452 00:21:46,166 --> 00:21:48,166 And as they continued to expand, 453 00:21:48,166 --> 00:21:50,800 the newly needed roads did as well, 454 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,633 in some cases paving roads 455 00:21:52,633 --> 00:21:55,300 right through the heart of existing neighborhoods, 456 00:21:55,300 --> 00:21:58,300 separating what had been thriving communities. 457 00:21:58,300 --> 00:22:01,366 American suburbs were held up as a symbol 458 00:22:01,366 --> 00:22:03,366 of a thriving middle class, 459 00:22:03,366 --> 00:22:06,066 but they had a distancing effect on people as well. 460 00:22:06,066 --> 00:22:08,200 Common areas for human connection 461 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,833 were replaced by individual spaces 462 00:22:10,833 --> 00:22:14,066 and separated by greater and greater distances. 463 00:22:14,066 --> 00:22:16,200 What ends up happening 464 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,066 is a sense of separation between people 465 00:22:19,066 --> 00:22:22,200 right in the midst of their own communities. 466 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,533 How does architecture, how does urban planning, 467 00:22:25,533 --> 00:22:27,833 and how do the neighborhoods we live in today 468 00:22:27,833 --> 00:22:31,066 impact how we relate to each other? 469 00:22:38,366 --> 00:22:41,066 How can we build futures where we design 470 00:22:41,066 --> 00:22:42,533 for more human connectedness? 471 00:22:42,533 --> 00:22:44,566 And is that even possible in a moment 472 00:22:44,566 --> 00:22:49,066 that feels more deeply divided than anything in our lifetimes? 473 00:22:49,066 --> 00:22:50,533 I came to Washington 474 00:22:50,533 --> 00:22:52,533 to sit down with the Secretary of Transportation, 475 00:22:52,533 --> 00:22:53,833 Pete Buttigieg, 476 00:22:53,833 --> 00:22:56,733 someone who thinks a lot about how we are shaping 477 00:22:56,733 --> 00:22:58,833 not only the social fabric 478 00:22:58,833 --> 00:23:01,433 but the actual infrastructure of America. 479 00:23:01,433 --> 00:23:03,766 You're leading the Department of Transportation. 480 00:23:03,766 --> 00:23:05,600 That's real infrastructure. 481 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,433 It's bridges. It's tunnels. It's airports. It's roads. 482 00:23:08,433 --> 00:23:11,100 That being said, what are the takeaways to build 483 00:23:11,100 --> 00:23:13,433 other types of kind of social infrastructure, 484 00:23:13,433 --> 00:23:16,433 in a sense more of that human connective tissue? 485 00:23:16,433 --> 00:23:18,466 Well, there's a very real relationship 486 00:23:18,466 --> 00:23:21,100 between how we connect to each other physically 487 00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:22,600 through transportation 488 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,766 and how we connect to each other socially. 489 00:23:24,766 --> 00:23:27,433 Even in an era where we are discovering 490 00:23:27,433 --> 00:23:30,600 remote and hybrid and virtual interaction, 491 00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:32,766 we're also seeing how important it can be 492 00:23:32,766 --> 00:23:34,266 to just be around each other 493 00:23:34,266 --> 00:23:36,100 or to literally walk the streets 494 00:23:36,100 --> 00:23:37,766 of one another's communities, 495 00:23:37,766 --> 00:23:40,133 to travel and understand through travel 496 00:23:40,133 --> 00:23:41,766 how other societies work. 497 00:23:41,766 --> 00:23:44,100 One finding that I think is very powerful 498 00:23:44,100 --> 00:23:46,600 is when people get to know each other better, 499 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,133 they tend to trust each other more, not less. 500 00:23:49,133 --> 00:23:51,266 It's 30 years from now, 501 00:23:51,266 --> 00:23:54,266 and you're talking to your children about this era, 502 00:23:54,266 --> 00:23:56,133 this moment in human history. 503 00:23:56,133 --> 00:23:57,600 How do you describe it? 504 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,133 Well, I'm gonna tell them that this was a moment 505 00:24:00,133 --> 00:24:03,066 when a lot of changes happened in our society, 506 00:24:03,066 --> 00:24:04,666 certainly in transportation, 507 00:24:04,666 --> 00:24:07,800 and those changes led to their lives getting better. 508 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,833 I think that we need to be in a season of building, 509 00:24:11,833 --> 00:24:13,500 not just because we have a backlog 510 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:15,166 and there's a bunch of stuff we should have been doing 511 00:24:15,166 --> 00:24:16,800 the whole time but because the projects 512 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,333 that are ahead in this century-- 513 00:24:19,333 --> 00:24:22,166 the big shared national and human projects-- 514 00:24:22,166 --> 00:24:24,333 like confronting climate change, 515 00:24:24,333 --> 00:24:26,800 staying a step ahead of the next pandemic, 516 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,800 preventing nuclear conflict-- 517 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,666 will require levels of cooperation 518 00:24:31,666 --> 00:24:34,333 that, in turn, require 519 00:24:34,333 --> 00:24:36,800 a lot of good infrastructure. 520 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,700 Are we able to rebuild 521 00:24:39,700 --> 00:24:41,833 to that kind of golden era of community 522 00:24:41,833 --> 00:24:43,500 that we once had? 523 00:24:43,500 --> 00:24:46,333 Yeah, I believe we can, and I believe we must. 524 00:24:46,333 --> 00:24:48,166 This is not just important 525 00:24:48,166 --> 00:24:51,166 because of some vague and romantic conception 526 00:24:51,166 --> 00:24:54,500 of neighborhoods and communities. 527 00:24:54,500 --> 00:24:56,833 It's also got life-and-death consequences. 528 00:24:56,833 --> 00:24:58,333 There's evidence, for example, 529 00:24:58,333 --> 00:25:01,233 that the survivability of tornadoes-- 530 00:25:01,233 --> 00:25:03,400 all other things being equal-- 531 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,066 goes up in neighborhoods or communities 532 00:25:06,066 --> 00:25:08,100 where neighbors know each other. 533 00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:09,433 So a simple principle or test, 534 00:25:09,433 --> 00:25:12,566 whether you're designing a suburban subdivision 535 00:25:12,566 --> 00:25:14,400 or a dense city block, 536 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,566 would be, Does this design encourage 537 00:25:17,566 --> 00:25:19,233 or discourage people 538 00:25:19,233 --> 00:25:21,566 from knowing who their neighbors are? 539 00:25:21,566 --> 00:25:24,066 I really believe in so many of these dimensions-- 540 00:25:24,066 --> 00:25:28,066 political, social, even technological-- 541 00:25:28,066 --> 00:25:31,100 our salvation will come from the local. 542 00:25:31,100 --> 00:25:32,733 And we need processes 543 00:25:32,733 --> 00:25:36,233 that empower local decision making. 544 00:25:36,233 --> 00:25:46,433 โ™ช 545 00:25:46,433 --> 00:25:49,100 Wallach, voice-over: We spend a lot of time these days 546 00:25:49,100 --> 00:25:51,066 separating ourselves into groups 547 00:25:51,066 --> 00:25:53,100 based on ideas and identity. 548 00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:55,100 But I wanted to see what's possible 549 00:25:55,100 --> 00:25:57,233 when a local community decides to build together 550 00:25:57,233 --> 00:26:00,300 around a shared sense of belief and belonging. 551 00:26:00,300 --> 00:26:03,166 In Amsterdam, Marjan de Blok decided 552 00:26:03,166 --> 00:26:04,800 to do just that, when she helped create 553 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,300 a floating village right here in the heart of the city. 554 00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:10,633 Wallach: Usually when I show up to a village, 555 00:26:10,633 --> 00:26:12,300 I just take, like, a path, 556 00:26:12,300 --> 00:26:14,133 and I just, you know, start walking among the homes. 557 00:26:14,133 --> 00:26:16,166 But here I immediately walked 558 00:26:16,166 --> 00:26:17,633 onto a dock on the water. 559 00:26:17,633 --> 00:26:19,800 So tell me where we are. 560 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,500 You are in the north of Amsterdam 561 00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:23,333 in Johan van Hasseltkanaal. 562 00:26:23,333 --> 00:26:26,133 And I'm the founder of this village 563 00:26:26,133 --> 00:26:28,166 that you are in right now. 564 00:26:28,166 --> 00:26:31,466 One school--one school is here, very near... 565 00:26:31,466 --> 00:26:33,133 Marjan de Blok, voice-over: So we have a big jetty 566 00:26:33,133 --> 00:26:34,800 connecting all the houses. 567 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,166 There are actually 46 households living here. 568 00:26:37,166 --> 00:26:40,500 We are a community, so we share a lot together. 569 00:26:40,500 --> 00:26:44,300 And we try to live as sustainable as possible. 570 00:26:44,300 --> 00:26:46,300 All our houses have solar panels. 571 00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:48,133 All our houses have a heat pump. 572 00:26:48,133 --> 00:26:53,166 We have a green roof, and all the houses are built 573 00:26:53,166 --> 00:26:55,166 with sustainable materials. 574 00:26:55,166 --> 00:26:58,166 All houses are really well-insulated. 575 00:26:58,166 --> 00:27:01,533 And we have a smart grid, which is quite special. 576 00:27:01,533 --> 00:27:03,400 By the smart grid, we are all connected, 577 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,066 so we can exchange 578 00:27:05,066 --> 00:27:07,833 the surpluses of the energy we generated. 579 00:27:07,833 --> 00:27:10,200 And all the houses have a battery. 580 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,066 And in this battery, we can also save energy 581 00:27:14,066 --> 00:27:16,066 that we don't need at that moment. 582 00:27:16,066 --> 00:27:18,566 If one house generates more electricity 583 00:27:18,566 --> 00:27:20,366 and another house needs more electricity, 584 00:27:20,366 --> 00:27:21,833 you can share electricity among the homes? 585 00:27:21,833 --> 00:27:24,100 Yeah. That's how it goes. 586 00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:25,833 So what was the motivation 587 00:27:25,833 --> 00:27:28,200 for starting a community like this? 588 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,833 Well, it actually started 15 years ago. 589 00:27:29,833 --> 00:27:32,533 At that time, I was living in a small house in Amsterdam. 590 00:27:32,533 --> 00:27:34,366 I hardly knew my neighbors, 591 00:27:34,366 --> 00:27:36,700 and it was all really kind of lonely and individualistic. 592 00:27:36,700 --> 00:27:38,533 And I just completely fell in love 593 00:27:38,533 --> 00:27:42,066 with the concept of living sustainable on the water, 594 00:27:42,066 --> 00:27:43,833 but also to live a more social life, 595 00:27:43,833 --> 00:27:45,700 because that was something 596 00:27:45,700 --> 00:27:47,700 that I was really missing at that time. 597 00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:50,200 I had this idea of starting a group. 598 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,833 Build a couple of houseboats together, 599 00:27:51,833 --> 00:27:53,833 make them sustainable. 600 00:27:53,833 --> 00:27:57,700 And living on the water makes you feel closer to nature. 601 00:27:57,700 --> 00:28:01,433 And the fact that you would generate your own electricity 602 00:28:01,433 --> 00:28:04,266 gave me this really great sense of freedom, 603 00:28:04,266 --> 00:28:06,100 a feeling that I would never have 604 00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:08,433 in the house that I was living in. 605 00:28:08,433 --> 00:28:12,300 [indistinct chatter] 606 00:28:12,300 --> 00:28:20,266 [music] 607 00:28:20,266 --> 00:28:22,133 Whoo. 608 00:28:22,133 --> 00:28:23,766 Wallach: So tell me more about 609 00:28:23,766 --> 00:28:27,133 what it's like living in community. 610 00:28:27,133 --> 00:28:29,100 De Blok: Yeah. It's uncomparable. 611 00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:31,433 It's uncomparable. It's a feeling... 612 00:28:31,433 --> 00:28:34,266 You are never alone. 613 00:28:34,266 --> 00:28:38,133 You have like-minded people around you. 614 00:28:38,133 --> 00:28:42,133 If you have to do everything by yourself, it's not fun. 615 00:28:42,133 --> 00:28:45,266 And so then the community makes it nice 616 00:28:45,266 --> 00:28:49,133 to try all these new sustainable technologies. 617 00:28:49,133 --> 00:28:52,133 So I really think that the community is needed 618 00:28:52,133 --> 00:28:55,433 for a transition to a more sustainable society. 619 00:28:55,433 --> 00:28:57,266 Hi. Hello. 620 00:28:57,266 --> 00:28:59,766 De Blok, voice-over: When I started this 621 00:28:59,766 --> 00:29:01,533 or when I had this initial idea, 622 00:29:01,533 --> 00:29:04,333 I had no idea how important it was, what we were doing. 623 00:29:04,333 --> 00:29:05,800 [indistinct chatter] 624 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,800 And that it's also about, what can you do, 625 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,333 instead of what you can't do or what is-- 626 00:29:12,333 --> 00:29:13,833 you can't eat meat, 627 00:29:13,833 --> 00:29:15,666 you can't drive a car, you can't fly. 628 00:29:15,666 --> 00:29:17,666 It's all, like, negative. 629 00:29:17,666 --> 00:29:20,500 And, of course, those things are important to keep in mind 630 00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:22,166 and to adjust your behavior, 631 00:29:22,166 --> 00:29:24,800 but there's also another side to it. 632 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,666 And I think that's the side that we touched 633 00:29:27,666 --> 00:29:29,833 and realized here with this community, 634 00:29:29,833 --> 00:29:32,333 because it's all positive. 635 00:29:32,333 --> 00:29:35,666 It's all about connection-- connection to your neighbors 636 00:29:35,666 --> 00:29:37,800 but also connection to your environment. 637 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,833 If you are connected to your environment, 638 00:29:39,833 --> 00:29:42,800 you will think twice before polluting it. 639 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,333 There's a lot of respect for one another, 640 00:29:45,333 --> 00:29:47,333 and I think everybody realizes that it's 641 00:29:47,333 --> 00:29:51,333 not just a jetty with some houses. 642 00:29:51,333 --> 00:29:54,800 I feel that it's an organism that is still growing, 643 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,066 and it's almost an organism in itself, 644 00:29:58,066 --> 00:30:00,833 like, a live thing. 645 00:30:00,833 --> 00:30:03,800 It's not just a project. 646 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,800 And I think people realize that. 647 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,333 So they know it's special, what we have. 648 00:30:08,333 --> 00:30:11,066 And that's a really nice feeling 649 00:30:11,066 --> 00:30:12,800 if you have that in your daily life. 650 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,366 [both speaking Dutch] 651 00:30:16,366 --> 00:30:18,166 Wallach, voice-over: It's so exciting to think about 652 00:30:18,166 --> 00:30:19,800 the futures we can create when we design 653 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,333 with human connectedness in mind. 654 00:30:22,333 --> 00:30:25,833 Collaboration and cooperation is how we got to this point, 655 00:30:25,833 --> 00:30:27,333 and it's our only path forward. 656 00:30:27,333 --> 00:30:30,333 And yet, in so many ways right now, 657 00:30:30,333 --> 00:30:32,366 it feels like we're moving further away 658 00:30:32,366 --> 00:30:34,833 from these primary human traits. 659 00:30:34,833 --> 00:30:36,800 Bregman: What makes us special? 660 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,066 Why have we humans conquered the globe? 661 00:30:40,066 --> 00:30:41,833 Why not the Neanderthals, you know? 662 00:30:41,833 --> 00:30:43,800 The Neanderthals were pretty smart as well. 663 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,833 Actually, they had bigger brains than us. 664 00:30:45,833 --> 00:30:47,500 Why not the bonobos? Why not the chimpanzees? 665 00:30:47,500 --> 00:30:50,200 What distinguishes us as a species? 666 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,500 John Jost: All of us are individuals. 667 00:30:53,500 --> 00:30:55,500 And we have individual needs, wishes, 668 00:30:55,500 --> 00:30:56,800 wants, desires, and so on. 669 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,533 But we also are part of social groups 670 00:30:59,533 --> 00:31:01,566 that can mean a lot to us. 671 00:31:01,566 --> 00:31:04,766 Man: Being human is this team sport, 672 00:31:04,766 --> 00:31:06,600 is this collective, collaborative 673 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,566 endeavor that we actually have to bring ourselves to. 674 00:31:10,566 --> 00:31:14,066 This whole story of evolution, that may the best man win-- 675 00:31:14,066 --> 00:31:16,100 that's not what Darwin was saying at all. 676 00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:18,400 Page after page, what he's actually doing 677 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,066 is marveling at the way different species 678 00:31:21,066 --> 00:31:24,400 communicate and collaborate for mutual survival. 679 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,400 Bregman: There's a really old idea that's deeply embedded 680 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,233 in our culture and in our history, 681 00:31:32,233 --> 00:31:37,100 which says that human beings are fundamentally selfish. 682 00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:39,733 So what scientists now believe is 683 00:31:39,733 --> 00:31:43,566 that the secret of our success is not our intelligence, 684 00:31:43,566 --> 00:31:45,233 it's not our strength. 685 00:31:45,233 --> 00:31:47,733 No, it's our ability to work together. 686 00:31:47,733 --> 00:31:49,733 It's our friendliness. 687 00:31:49,733 --> 00:31:53,400 So this is what they call survival of the friendliest, 688 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,733 and it's basically the secret of our whole story. 689 00:32:00,466 --> 00:32:03,300 Wallach, voice-over: These ideas matter more than ever 690 00:32:03,300 --> 00:32:05,133 because we have important, unfinished things 691 00:32:05,133 --> 00:32:08,133 to do right now that we can only do together. 692 00:32:08,133 --> 00:32:11,300 One of these things is creating enough housing 693 00:32:11,300 --> 00:32:13,633 for everyone who needs it. 694 00:32:13,633 --> 00:32:16,800 In Austin, Melodie Yashar and her team at ICON 695 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,166 are working on ways to meet this challenge 696 00:32:19,166 --> 00:32:21,466 by building 3-D-printed homes that can be printed 697 00:32:21,466 --> 00:32:23,800 in a matter of weeks. 698 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,133 OK, so tell me, Where are we right now? 699 00:32:26,133 --> 00:32:27,800 We are in House Zero. 700 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,133 House Zero is a project that we both designed and built 701 00:32:32,133 --> 00:32:36,300 in collaboration with the architect Lake Flato. 702 00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:38,466 And it is intended to showcase 703 00:32:38,466 --> 00:32:40,466 what is possible using 3D printing. 704 00:32:40,466 --> 00:32:43,166 It is a project that we took on 705 00:32:43,166 --> 00:32:46,133 as a research-and-development effort to show what's possible 706 00:32:46,133 --> 00:32:49,300 and to introduce to the general public 707 00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:51,800 what it's like to live on the inside 708 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,133 and be on the inside of a 3-D-printed home. 709 00:32:54,133 --> 00:32:56,166 Give me a sense of the problem. 710 00:32:56,166 --> 00:32:58,800 Like, how many people are we talking are unhoused 711 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,200 in the U.S. and globally? 712 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,533 Melodie Yashar: It's close to a billion people, 713 00:33:03,533 --> 00:33:06,566 a billion homes that we need to deliver 714 00:33:06,566 --> 00:33:08,700 to address the global housing crisis. 715 00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:10,700 The way that we've been building-- 716 00:33:10,700 --> 00:33:13,700 using sticks and bricks of the past, and steel-- 717 00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:16,700 is just not getting us there fast enough. 718 00:33:16,700 --> 00:33:18,700 And so, to really address 719 00:33:18,700 --> 00:33:21,833 and make a true impact in this problem, 720 00:33:21,833 --> 00:33:24,833 automated technologies can get us there. 721 00:33:24,833 --> 00:33:28,066 And 3-D printing, of course, is one of them. 722 00:33:28,066 --> 00:33:31,066 Take me through what actually happened here 723 00:33:31,066 --> 00:33:32,533 and in general, right? 724 00:33:32,533 --> 00:33:34,833 We'll start off with a concrete slab. 725 00:33:34,833 --> 00:33:38,066 So you have level ground. Now what happens? 726 00:33:38,066 --> 00:33:42,533 Yashar: Once a slab is poured, we deploy our 3-D printer, 727 00:33:42,533 --> 00:33:46,533 which is a 9,600-pound Gantry-based robot. 728 00:33:46,533 --> 00:33:50,200 We deploy it on rails adjacent to that slab, 729 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,200 so the Y rails run back and forth and parallel 730 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,066 to the slab. 731 00:33:55,066 --> 00:33:58,200 And then we have two towers, as well as an X beam, 732 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,266 that goes across those towers, 733 00:34:00,266 --> 00:34:04,433 which essentially comprise the overall Gantry system. 734 00:34:04,433 --> 00:34:06,800 We have a material-handling system 735 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,100 that travels through a very long hose 736 00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:12,100 and gets deposited at the nozzle of the printer. 737 00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:17,133 And layer by layer, the structure is fabricated. 738 00:34:20,633 --> 00:34:23,700 Yashar: We are at the Wolf Ranch development. 739 00:34:23,700 --> 00:34:26,266 This is a 100-home community. 740 00:34:26,266 --> 00:34:29,433 This represents the largest 3-D-printed community 741 00:34:29,433 --> 00:34:31,600 that we're aware of in the world. 742 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,600 And as you can see, it's well underway. 743 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,200 We have multiple printers printing simultaneously, 744 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,166 adjacent to slabs that have been poured by Lennar. 745 00:34:41,166 --> 00:34:43,433 And we're delivering the vertical-wall system, 746 00:34:43,433 --> 00:34:46,133 which is the 3-D-printed walls of these houses. 747 00:34:46,133 --> 00:34:48,133 Wallach: And how long does it usually take 748 00:34:48,133 --> 00:34:49,766 for one of these homes to go up? 749 00:34:49,766 --> 00:34:52,133 Roughly, two weeks on average, 750 00:34:52,133 --> 00:34:53,466 assuming that we have 751 00:34:53,466 --> 00:34:56,166 continuous 24-hour-a-day printing. 752 00:34:56,166 --> 00:34:58,100 But that's essentially the idea, 753 00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:00,433 is that we deploy the printer within a day, 754 00:35:00,433 --> 00:35:03,133 the printer prints the home, 755 00:35:03,133 --> 00:35:05,333 and the home is finished traditionally. 756 00:35:05,333 --> 00:35:07,166 You put on a traditional roof. 757 00:35:07,166 --> 00:35:09,366 Your plumbing and all of that--electrical-- 758 00:35:09,366 --> 00:35:12,200 happens still traditionally. 759 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,766 I also know in your bio, you're an architect 760 00:35:14,766 --> 00:35:17,666 for both on-world and off-world architecture. 761 00:35:17,666 --> 00:35:19,666 So the on-world I get. We're here. 762 00:35:19,666 --> 00:35:22,333 Tell me more about the off-world work. 763 00:35:22,333 --> 00:35:25,100 3-D printing is a leading contender 764 00:35:25,100 --> 00:35:27,333 in in-space construction 765 00:35:27,333 --> 00:35:30,800 because the premise for 3-D printing in space is 766 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,200 that we would use local and indigenous materials 767 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,500 on the surface of the planet 768 00:35:36,500 --> 00:35:39,366 rather than bringing anything with us from Earth. 769 00:35:39,366 --> 00:35:43,133 That's a really high-impact concept 770 00:35:43,133 --> 00:35:45,500 because it is prohibitively expensive 771 00:35:45,500 --> 00:35:49,333 to launch heavy materials from Earth to space. 772 00:35:49,333 --> 00:35:51,766 And it's not going to enable us to create 773 00:35:51,766 --> 00:35:56,166 the kinds of infrastructure, small cities, and settlements 774 00:35:56,166 --> 00:35:58,533 that we've seen in science-fiction images 775 00:35:58,533 --> 00:36:00,400 for decades in the past. 776 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,400 So NASA is really interested, 777 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,833 and other aerospace companies are really interested, 778 00:36:04,833 --> 00:36:06,266 in this idea of using 779 00:36:06,266 --> 00:36:09,233 the soil that is local to the moon and Mars 780 00:36:09,233 --> 00:36:13,233 and sending up a single 3D-printing robot 781 00:36:13,233 --> 00:36:16,100 that can leverage that soil and those materials 782 00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:17,666 to 3-D print, really, 783 00:36:17,666 --> 00:36:21,100 any kind of infrastructure or any kind of surface element 784 00:36:21,100 --> 00:36:24,066 that would be beneficial to the crew. 785 00:36:25,033 --> 00:36:27,100 Wallach, voice-over: The collaboration and innovation 786 00:36:27,100 --> 00:36:29,066 at work here is beautiful. 787 00:36:29,066 --> 00:36:31,233 And it's inspiring to see how solving problems 788 00:36:31,233 --> 00:36:33,733 with creativity and concern for the here and now 789 00:36:33,733 --> 00:36:37,233 is the same work as building far-off futures as well. 790 00:36:37,233 --> 00:36:40,066 Narrator: Our story is about you and me 791 00:36:40,066 --> 00:36:43,233 and why we are alike in some ways 792 00:36:43,233 --> 00:36:47,033 and yet why each person is different from every other. 793 00:36:49,066 --> 00:36:52,400 Bregman: Cynicism is another word for laziness, 794 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,833 because if things are lost anyway, 795 00:36:54,833 --> 00:36:56,266 then you don't have to do anything. 796 00:36:56,266 --> 00:36:58,800 You can just sit back and, I don't know, 797 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,300 make the best of your own life, and that's it. 798 00:37:02,300 --> 00:37:03,833 If things are not lost, 799 00:37:03,833 --> 00:37:06,233 if we can do so much better as a species, 800 00:37:06,233 --> 00:37:09,133 then that gives you a certain responsibility. 801 00:37:09,133 --> 00:37:10,800 Douglas Rushkoff: If you want to call human beings 802 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,133 the most evolved species, it's because we've evolved 803 00:37:13,133 --> 00:37:14,500 the most elaborate means 804 00:37:14,500 --> 00:37:16,400 of collaboration and communication, 805 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,666 letting us do stuff together. 806 00:37:18,666 --> 00:37:20,833 When you start to understand that nature is 807 00:37:20,833 --> 00:37:23,166 a collaborative dance of different things, 808 00:37:23,166 --> 00:37:26,166 you start to understand, Oh, well, being human is that, too. 809 00:37:26,166 --> 00:37:27,666 We are not alone. 810 00:37:27,666 --> 00:37:31,233 We are in one big, connected nervous system. 811 00:37:31,233 --> 00:37:35,166 Bregman: We become the stories that we tell ourselves. 812 00:37:35,166 --> 00:37:37,800 What kind of society are you gonna create? 813 00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,566 So, for example, 814 00:37:39,566 --> 00:37:43,466 I think we should get into that problem-solving mind-set 815 00:37:43,466 --> 00:37:47,666 and think about, like, What are the really big challenges 816 00:37:47,666 --> 00:37:49,800 that we face as a species today, 817 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,666 and what are the most effective solutions? 818 00:37:57,133 --> 00:38:00,066 Wallach: I'm often asked how new tools will enable us 819 00:38:00,066 --> 00:38:01,700 to solve these challenges, 820 00:38:01,700 --> 00:38:04,166 but the truth is that all too often, 821 00:38:04,166 --> 00:38:06,200 what we lack are not the technologies 822 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,366 but, rather, the collective will to act together 823 00:38:09,366 --> 00:38:11,366 on behalf of our neighbors and communities 824 00:38:11,366 --> 00:38:13,200 rather than just ourselves. 825 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,066 One of these challenges is around food, 826 00:38:16,066 --> 00:38:18,300 a constant source of unnecessary suffering 827 00:38:18,300 --> 00:38:19,833 all over the world, 828 00:38:19,833 --> 00:38:22,100 including right here in this country, 829 00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:23,533 where a shocking amount of 830 00:38:23,533 --> 00:38:25,700 us are still hungry and food insecure. 831 00:38:25,700 --> 00:38:29,100 In Upstate New York, a farmer named Karen Washington 832 00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:31,533 has spent her life fighting for a different future, 833 00:38:31,533 --> 00:38:34,533 one in which healthy, affordable food for everyone 834 00:38:34,533 --> 00:38:37,066 is seen as an essential human right. 835 00:38:37,066 --> 00:38:38,200 Wallach: Here we are-- 836 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,066 beautiful, kind of, Upstate New York. 837 00:38:40,066 --> 00:38:42,400 Tell me, did you grow up here? 838 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,066 No. 839 00:38:44,066 --> 00:38:46,066 Believe it or not, I grew up in the concrete jungle 840 00:38:46,066 --> 00:38:47,700 of New York City. 841 00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:49,366 As a matter of fact, I grew up in the projects, 842 00:38:49,366 --> 00:38:51,366 Lower East Side, so those were my roots. 843 00:38:51,366 --> 00:38:54,200 I started really growing food back in the city, 844 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,066 back in the 1980s. 845 00:38:56,066 --> 00:39:00,100 And then came a time where my friends and I decided, 846 00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:02,266 Let's try something bigger. 847 00:39:02,266 --> 00:39:06,266 And so we landed here back in 2014. 848 00:39:06,266 --> 00:39:08,600 You're here at Rise & Root Farm, 849 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,266 which is in Chester, New York, Orange County. 850 00:39:11,266 --> 00:39:14,433 We are in the Black Dirt Region of Orange County. 851 00:39:14,433 --> 00:39:16,766 So what does that mean, the Black Dirt Region? 852 00:39:16,766 --> 00:39:19,433 Well, if you look at soil, 853 00:39:19,433 --> 00:39:22,133 normally, it's between 1%, maybe 2% of organic matter. 854 00:39:22,133 --> 00:39:23,466 But here, the soil is 40%. 855 00:39:23,466 --> 00:39:25,133 Wow. 856 00:39:25,133 --> 00:39:27,100 So GreenThumb is the organization 857 00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:30,133 in New York City that runs the community gardens. 858 00:39:30,133 --> 00:39:31,466 So we grow for them. 859 00:39:31,466 --> 00:39:34,100 There are over 400 community gardens in New York City. 860 00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:37,766 And so we've been asked the task 861 00:39:37,766 --> 00:39:39,433 of growing their starts. 862 00:39:39,433 --> 00:39:41,433 And so each community garden will get 863 00:39:41,433 --> 00:39:45,100 a tray of flowers and herbs 864 00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:48,100 and a tray of vegetables. 865 00:39:48,100 --> 00:39:50,433 And so yesterday we did 866 00:39:50,433 --> 00:39:53,266 all the flowers and herbs. 867 00:39:53,266 --> 00:39:56,600 And today we're doing all of the vegetables. 868 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,100 Wallach, voice-over: When they leave the farm, 869 00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:01,100 these plants are sent out to community gardens 870 00:40:01,100 --> 00:40:02,833 across New York City that are working 871 00:40:02,833 --> 00:40:04,766 to fight hunger and food poverty 872 00:40:04,766 --> 00:40:08,100 by equipping local communities in underserved neighborhoods 873 00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:10,433 to grow their own food. 874 00:40:10,433 --> 00:40:15,133 Wallach: What's the role of food in America today? 875 00:40:15,133 --> 00:40:18,266 I think it has been co-opted. 876 00:40:18,266 --> 00:40:21,100 If you think of food, food is the essence 877 00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:23,100 of nourishment for human beings. 878 00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:25,766 But I think that has now been made 879 00:40:25,766 --> 00:40:27,433 more of a profit sort of thing. 880 00:40:27,433 --> 00:40:30,433 And it has divided the human race 881 00:40:30,433 --> 00:40:32,433 for the haves and have-nots. 882 00:40:32,433 --> 00:40:35,100 You know, people in low-income neighborhoods 883 00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:36,700 have food that is cheap. 884 00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:39,266 It's processed food. It's fast food, junk food. 885 00:40:39,266 --> 00:40:41,100 And people who are more affluent have 886 00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:44,166 "healthy, organic foods." 887 00:40:44,166 --> 00:40:47,100 Back in the day, it was the small farmers. 888 00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:48,766 It has been industrialized. 889 00:40:48,766 --> 00:40:51,600 And so what happened is that this sort of 890 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,133 commercialization of farmers 891 00:40:54,133 --> 00:40:56,600 started swallowing up small farmers. 892 00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,100 The emphasis was on that mighty dollar, 893 00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:00,800 you know, on a capitalistic system 894 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,500 to produce food at a rate 895 00:41:04,500 --> 00:41:07,666 that we wind up producing so much food 896 00:41:07,666 --> 00:41:09,333 and wasting so much food, 897 00:41:09,333 --> 00:41:10,800 yet that food is not getting 898 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,833 down to the people that need it the most. 899 00:41:12,833 --> 00:41:14,500 Why is that? 900 00:41:14,500 --> 00:41:16,500 Why is it that just the healthiest stuff 901 00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:17,800 goes to one group 902 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,500 and the overly processed goes to another group? 903 00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:22,166 I think for so long, 904 00:41:22,166 --> 00:41:23,500 we have been complacent as a society. 905 00:41:23,500 --> 00:41:25,666 We have gone home in our nice houses 906 00:41:25,666 --> 00:41:28,333 with our nice cars and closed the door 907 00:41:28,333 --> 00:41:30,333 and said, you know, "That's not my problem. 908 00:41:30,333 --> 00:41:32,166 That's someone else's problem." 909 00:41:32,166 --> 00:41:34,066 Why, in the greatest country in the world, 910 00:41:34,066 --> 00:41:36,166 where we grow enough food and we waste enough food, 911 00:41:36,166 --> 00:41:37,666 yet that food is not getting 912 00:41:37,666 --> 00:41:39,666 down to the people that need it the most? 913 00:41:39,666 --> 00:41:40,833 Why is it it's based on race, 914 00:41:40,833 --> 00:41:42,833 the color of your skin? 915 00:41:42,833 --> 00:41:44,500 Why is it based on where you live? 916 00:41:44,500 --> 00:41:46,266 Why is it based on how much money you have? 917 00:41:46,266 --> 00:41:48,266 And start having those hard conversations 918 00:41:48,266 --> 00:41:49,833 that we don't have. 919 00:41:49,833 --> 00:41:52,600 Wallach, voice-over: The challenges in food systems 920 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,800 here and around the world can easily feel insurmountable, 921 00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,800 but Karen's work reminds me that 922 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,666 real, scalable, and lasting change 923 00:41:59,666 --> 00:42:03,066 is going to start in our own communities. 924 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,733 Wallach: What can it look like, 925 00:42:06,733 --> 00:42:09,400 from where we are right now to where we want to be? 926 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,233 Tell me, Where do we want to be? 927 00:42:11,233 --> 00:42:13,066 Karen Washington: I think where we want to be is 928 00:42:13,066 --> 00:42:16,066 that everybody, everybody-- 929 00:42:16,066 --> 00:42:17,733 and not only here in the United States 930 00:42:17,733 --> 00:42:19,266 but globally-- 931 00:42:19,266 --> 00:42:21,100 but everybody has to understand 932 00:42:21,100 --> 00:42:24,400 that food, clean water, 933 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,233 and shelter are human rights. 934 00:42:28,233 --> 00:42:30,066 And we're not there yet. 935 00:42:30,066 --> 00:42:32,400 Wallach, voice-over: To create a future 936 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,233 where all people have access to good, nutritious food 937 00:42:35,233 --> 00:42:37,566 isn't just going to happen. 938 00:42:37,566 --> 00:42:40,100 Better futures are not easy or inevitable. 939 00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:42,400 But together, we can look around 940 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,566 at the systems across our societies 941 00:42:44,566 --> 00:42:47,100 and decide they are not sufficient for the world 942 00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:48,766 we're building. 943 00:42:48,766 --> 00:42:52,733 That's the story of all progress throughout our history-- 944 00:42:52,733 --> 00:42:56,233 people coming together to decide the injustices of today 945 00:42:56,233 --> 00:42:58,433 have no place in our tomorrows. 946 00:43:00,300 --> 00:43:04,166 Jost: I think of history as essentially two steps forward, 947 00:43:04,166 --> 00:43:05,633 one step back. 948 00:43:05,633 --> 00:43:07,466 Resistance to change is 949 00:43:07,466 --> 00:43:10,166 part of what it means to be human, for better and worse. 950 00:43:10,166 --> 00:43:12,633 We grow up in a world, 951 00:43:12,633 --> 00:43:16,166 and we're socialized to see the way things are 952 00:43:16,166 --> 00:43:18,300 as essentially the way things should be. 953 00:43:18,300 --> 00:43:21,666 And most of the adults in our lives are telling us this. 954 00:43:21,666 --> 00:43:24,800 Literally, our teachers, our parents, and so on 955 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,666 are all doing things that make us experience 956 00:43:27,666 --> 00:43:31,166 the reality that we're growing into as natural, 957 00:43:31,166 --> 00:43:32,633 perhaps even inevitable. 958 00:43:32,633 --> 00:43:35,633 We want to feel good about the social, economic, 959 00:43:35,633 --> 00:43:38,166 political institutions and arrangements 960 00:43:38,166 --> 00:43:41,466 on which we all depend for our livelihoods, for our lives. 961 00:43:41,466 --> 00:43:45,300 And it's painful to believe that you're living in 962 00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:49,633 and operating in an unjust social system. 963 00:43:49,633 --> 00:43:52,300 Bregman: Every single milestone of civilization 964 00:43:52,300 --> 00:43:54,333 that we are used to right now, 965 00:43:54,333 --> 00:43:57,466 whether it's democracy or the welfare state 966 00:43:57,466 --> 00:44:00,200 or equal rights for men and women, 967 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,066 all these milestones were fantasies once. 968 00:44:03,066 --> 00:44:07,833 It's ideas that really govern and determine 969 00:44:07,833 --> 00:44:10,200 our trajectory as a species. 970 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,533 And that idea in itself, that progress is possible, 971 00:44:13,533 --> 00:44:16,833 is probably one of the most powerful ideas we've ever had. 972 00:44:16,833 --> 00:44:20,033 [vehicle horns honking] 973 00:44:25,733 --> 00:44:29,366 Wallach: Being here, you see, on the one hand, 974 00:44:29,366 --> 00:44:32,533 just kind of cutting-edge infrastructure-- 975 00:44:32,533 --> 00:44:36,533 high-speed rail--just things that are just so amazing. 976 00:44:39,066 --> 00:44:40,700 And on the other hand, you see folks 977 00:44:40,700 --> 00:44:43,833 who are carrying drinking water on their heads 978 00:44:43,833 --> 00:44:45,533 back to their homes. 979 00:44:45,533 --> 00:44:47,066 They don't have indoor plumbing. 980 00:44:47,066 --> 00:44:49,066 And so when I think about, What does it mean 981 00:44:49,066 --> 00:44:51,533 to live sustainably and regeneratively, 982 00:44:51,533 --> 00:44:55,200 it can't just be for the richest countries. 983 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,700 We won't have the futures we want for everyone 984 00:44:59,500 --> 00:45:03,266 until we can run basic electrical lines into homes 985 00:45:03,266 --> 00:45:05,000 and allow for indoor plumbing. 986 00:45:05,433 --> 00:45:07,133 The project of moving forward 987 00:45:07,133 --> 00:45:10,600 to a more kind of sustainable way of living on Planet Earth 988 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,266 is going to require electrification of everything 989 00:45:14,266 --> 00:45:16,133 for everyone. 990 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:24,133 โ™ช 991 00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:28,066 I'm here to visit a community that made news around the world 992 00:45:28,066 --> 00:45:30,466 by becoming the first village in India 993 00:45:30,466 --> 00:45:33,600 to become completely powered by solar energy. 994 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,266 Wallach: Thank you for inviting me 995 00:45:35,266 --> 00:45:36,766 to your village today. 996 00:45:36,766 --> 00:45:38,766 So I thought we would start by you letting me know, 997 00:45:38,766 --> 00:45:41,166 like, who you are and what your role here 998 00:45:41,166 --> 00:45:42,466 is in the village. 999 00:45:42,466 --> 00:45:49,633 [speaking Hindi] 1000 00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,100 What is the kind of historical and spiritual significance 1001 00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:57,700 of the sun here in India? 1002 00:45:59,100 --> 00:46:13,266 [speaking Hindi] 1003 00:46:15,666 --> 00:46:17,166 Wallach, voice-over: Safir explained to me 1004 00:46:17,166 --> 00:46:18,833 how this new form of energy is 1005 00:46:18,833 --> 00:46:20,833 especially meaningful, here in a place 1006 00:46:20,833 --> 00:46:23,666 with such a long, rich history with the sun. 1007 00:46:24,133 --> 00:46:25,800 Wallach: So what were the challenges 1008 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,500 that you were facing as a village that led you 1009 00:46:29,500 --> 00:46:32,200 to have to and want to take on a project like this? 1010 00:46:32,500 --> 00:46:42,333 [Safirmiya Sumarmiya Sindhi speaking Hindi] 1011 00:46:44,333 --> 00:46:45,833 Wallach: How many panels are there 1012 00:46:45,833 --> 00:46:47,666 here in this entire village? 1013 00:46:48,500 --> 00:47:03,600 [Sindhi speaking Hindi] 1014 00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,266 Wallach: How does it feel to see children playing 1015 00:47:10,266 --> 00:47:14,233 in a community that isn't using dirty energy sources, 1016 00:47:14,233 --> 00:47:17,100 that's using the sun to power, you know, 1017 00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:19,566 their homes and their schools and their way of life? 1018 00:47:19,566 --> 00:47:21,066 What does that feel like? 1019 00:47:21,566 --> 00:47:45,066 [speaking Hindi] 1020 00:47:48,566 --> 00:47:52,566 Wallach: When you think about the future of India 1021 00:47:52,566 --> 00:47:54,233 potentially moving to all solar, 1022 00:47:54,233 --> 00:47:56,566 how do you feel being such a kind of pioneer village 1023 00:47:56,566 --> 00:47:58,400 for the entire country? 1024 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:07,466 [speaking Hindi] 1025 00:48:10,166 --> 00:48:13,133 Wallach, voice-over: Seeing countries take very small steps, 1026 00:48:13,133 --> 00:48:15,466 like you see in a very small village, 1027 00:48:15,466 --> 00:48:17,133 saying, "You know what? 1028 00:48:17,133 --> 00:48:18,666 "Here's how we're gonna contribute to the solution. 1029 00:48:18,666 --> 00:48:20,166 "We're not gonna wait for something 1030 00:48:20,166 --> 00:48:21,800 "to come from Brussels or from Washington, 1031 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,633 "even, necessarily, just from Delhi. 1032 00:48:23,633 --> 00:48:25,800 We're gonna do it here locally." 1033 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,300 And, you know, they say all politics are local. 1034 00:48:29,300 --> 00:48:32,133 All energy is local. All everything is local. 1035 00:48:32,133 --> 00:48:34,133 Even a sense of community, right? 1036 00:48:34,133 --> 00:48:38,166 We talk about the need for there to be more community. 1037 00:48:38,166 --> 00:48:39,666 And it's sometimes talked about 1038 00:48:39,666 --> 00:48:42,133 almost at a national or a nation-state level. 1039 00:48:42,133 --> 00:48:45,133 But you come to a village like this, and I walk the town. 1040 00:48:45,133 --> 00:48:46,633 And that's community. 1041 00:48:46,633 --> 00:48:48,133 That's how futures are made, 1042 00:48:48,133 --> 00:48:50,133 really, at this much more ground level, 1043 00:48:50,133 --> 00:48:52,633 be it about how you're gonna make your electricity 1044 00:48:52,633 --> 00:48:54,133 and how you're gonna power your homes 1045 00:48:54,133 --> 00:48:55,633 or how you're just gonna act as a community 1046 00:48:55,633 --> 00:48:57,300 towards one another. 1047 00:48:57,300 --> 00:49:00,166 And it's beautiful to see that happening in a place 1048 00:49:00,166 --> 00:49:02,533 that, to be honest, has been getting, 1049 00:49:02,533 --> 00:49:06,100 really, just the exhaust from all these other countries 1050 00:49:06,100 --> 00:49:08,066 who have been contributing to the problem. 1051 00:49:08,066 --> 00:49:10,733 They're actually showing us another way forward. 1052 00:49:14,700 --> 00:49:18,733 Program host: What must we do as active and informed citizens? 1053 00:49:19,633 --> 00:49:22,100 We must decide now, 1054 00:49:22,500 --> 00:49:24,733 for how well we live tomorrow 1055 00:49:25,033 --> 00:49:28,366 will depend on the action we take today. 1056 00:49:30,366 --> 00:49:34,133 Jost: I do want people 50 years, 100 years, 200 years from now 1057 00:49:34,133 --> 00:49:36,533 to know that people were really trying hard 1058 00:49:36,533 --> 00:49:39,700 to leave the world in a better place for them. 1059 00:49:39,700 --> 00:49:42,066 And I don't know whether it will succeed, 1060 00:49:42,066 --> 00:49:43,833 but we have to try. 1061 00:49:43,833 --> 00:49:47,066 Washington: In order for us to look at the future, 1062 00:49:47,066 --> 00:49:48,700 you got to understand the past. 1063 00:49:48,700 --> 00:49:50,833 I have real hope that these young people 1064 00:49:50,833 --> 00:49:53,833 are looking for a more just system. 1065 00:49:53,833 --> 00:49:55,700 Pete Buttigieg: If we're not tapping 1066 00:49:55,700 --> 00:49:57,366 into shared humanity, 1067 00:49:57,366 --> 00:50:00,066 then we're not gonna be finding the best answers. 1068 00:50:00,066 --> 00:50:01,700 The best answers are the ones 1069 00:50:01,700 --> 00:50:03,700 that allow everybody to prosper 1070 00:50:03,700 --> 00:50:06,366 and to succeed and to belong. 1071 00:50:06,366 --> 00:50:08,366 Ikenaga: We all have to have a common goal. 1072 00:50:08,366 --> 00:50:12,833 We all have to know what the other person wants. 1073 00:50:12,833 --> 00:50:14,700 It's a collective experience. 1074 00:50:14,700 --> 00:50:17,066 It's a state of mind. 1075 00:50:17,066 --> 00:50:20,200 Bailey: How can we take what we see as some of the worst 1076 00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,700 of humanity's propensity towards violence, 1077 00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:26,700 isolation, and exclusion 1078 00:50:26,700 --> 00:50:29,833 and transform that into an opportunity 1079 00:50:29,833 --> 00:50:32,733 but also cast a new way forward? 1080 00:50:32,733 --> 00:50:36,200 This distrust is hurting us as a society. 1081 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:40,366 Humans have evolved to connect with one another. 1082 00:50:40,366 --> 00:50:43,066 We need to connect. We need our friends. 1083 00:50:43,066 --> 00:50:45,200 We need our family members. We need our coworkers. 1084 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,366 We need the strangers in the streets, right? 1085 00:50:47,366 --> 00:50:52,066 But if society keeps telling us that we can't trust them, 1086 00:50:52,066 --> 00:50:53,366 that they're dangerous, 1087 00:50:53,366 --> 00:50:55,533 that we should be wary of one another, 1088 00:50:55,533 --> 00:50:58,200 then that's tearing us apart. 1089 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,433 De Blok: We are not supposed to be alone. 1090 00:51:00,433 --> 00:51:02,133 You have to be connected, 1091 00:51:02,133 --> 00:51:04,266 and happiness comes from connection. 1092 00:51:04,266 --> 00:51:08,100 People don't realize that enough, I think. 1093 00:51:08,100 --> 00:51:14,633 โ™ช 1094 00:51:14,633 --> 00:51:18,100 Wallach: I thought people would want to talk about the future 1095 00:51:18,100 --> 00:51:21,100 through a kind of almost individualized lens, 1096 00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:23,100 they would want to talk about 1097 00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:25,100 the careers that they're gonna have 1098 00:51:25,100 --> 00:51:27,266 or they're worried about artificial intelligence 1099 00:51:27,266 --> 00:51:30,600 is gonna come for their job or for their children's job. 1100 00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,600 But what I keep hearing is 1101 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,100 a desire and a hope for community. 1102 00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:39,166 Everyone I'm speaking to, when I ask them, 1103 00:51:39,166 --> 00:51:42,133 "What do you want the future to look like," 1104 00:51:42,133 --> 00:51:45,100 inevitably, the idea or just the term of community 1105 00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:47,433 comes up--this idea of human connection. 1106 00:51:47,433 --> 00:51:51,133 And sometimes it's more deeply with their friends, 1107 00:51:51,133 --> 00:51:53,600 and sometimes it's more deeply as a town or a village 1108 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,100 or as a state 1109 00:51:55,100 --> 00:51:59,133 or, really, just as a kind of human family, 1110 00:51:59,133 --> 00:52:01,533 you know, as almost something post-nation-state, 1111 00:52:01,533 --> 00:52:03,333 something bigger. 1112 00:52:03,333 --> 00:52:08,833 And that's both been surprising and unbelievably delightful. 1113 00:52:08,833 --> 00:52:11,800 As we move forward, as we kind of rethink 1114 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,833 these baseline assumptions about how we order the world, 1115 00:52:14,833 --> 00:52:16,333 there can no longer be 1116 00:52:16,333 --> 00:52:19,333 an "I win, you lose" mind-set or mentality. 1117 00:52:19,333 --> 00:52:22,800 No one flourishes until everyone flourishes. 1118 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,066 As we move forward, we have an amazing opportunity 1119 00:52:26,066 --> 00:52:29,000 to do that for ourselves and for our species. 1120 00:52:30,300 --> 00:52:55,933 โ™ช 1121 00:52:55,933 --> 00:52:59,466 [laughter, excited chatter] 88015

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