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[vehicle horns honking,
siren blaring]
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[music]
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Ari Wallach: The most important
thing for any human being
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is to be with
other human beings.
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We are not solitary creatures.
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We are not
individuals in the way
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that we think of it
or the stories that we tell.
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Evidence shows us that we
have been traveling and moving
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in groups as far back
as we can actually find
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skeletons and bones in caves.
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Humans feel the most
in themselves, the most happy,
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the most joyful when they're
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actually in large groups
together.
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We're all kind of
focused and aligned.
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We're actually
having a sense of awe
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at whatever is happening.
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We find that when people are
at certain events together,
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that eventually their hearts are
actually beating in unison.
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What we are meant to be
is to be in groups together.
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It's who and what we are.
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Drake: โช Listen โช
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โช Seeing you got ritualistic โช
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โช Cleansing my soul
of addiction for now โช
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โช 'Cause I'm falling apart โช
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โช Yeah, tension
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โช Between us
just like picket fences โช
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โช You got issues that
I won't mention for now โช
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โช 'Cause we're falling apart โช
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โช Passionate from miles away
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โช Passive
with the things you say โช
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โช Passing up on my old ways โช
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โช I can't blame you, no, no โช
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[music]
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Wallach: So there's
two things that Homo sapiens do
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fundamentally better
than almost any other species
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on Planet Earth.
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It's to work together,
to cooperate,
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and also a sense of prospection,
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actually,
to think about the future.
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And those are
inextricably linked.
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As my journey continues,
everywhere I go,
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I'm struck by how similar
we all really are.
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We want to connect, to belong,
and to see ourselves
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as a part of a team or a tribe.
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Why is this sense of
togetherness so central
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to who we are,
and what does it mean
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in a moment when
that's often not reflected
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in the world around us?
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How can we build on
the best parts of who we are
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in order to create
the future we want to see
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and leave behind?
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That's led me to Japan,
headed out to a small island
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I've read about for years.
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Coming here
is a dream come true,
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as this quiet, distant place is
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home to a troupe of
world-renowned drummers,
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who've always struck me
as a beautiful picture
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of what's possible
when individuals come together
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to create something they could
never achieve on their own.
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[people vocalizing]
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โช
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[scraping and clanking]
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Leo Ikenaga:
My name is Leo Ikenaga,
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and I'm a performer for Kodo.
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Kodo is a Japanese
drumming ensemble.
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Japanese drumming
is called taiko.
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And we are a group
that uses the taiko,
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but we try to incorporate
different traditional,
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cultural elements
that are native to Japan.
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And we try to kind of create
something new out of it.
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We travel all over the world
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and perform and work with
a lot of different artists.
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And we're just trying
to create something new
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from this Japanese tradition.
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โช
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Wallach: What does it take
for someone to join Kodo?
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So, to join Kodo, you
first have to complete
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a two-year apprenticeship.
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And then you become
a junior member,
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and then you become
a full-time member.
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And the two-year
apprenticeship is
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a very, very rigorous
process.
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You're living
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in an abandoned
70-year-old middle school
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with 15 to 20 other people.
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You have no privacy.
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You have no phones,
no TV, no Internet.
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And you wake up
at 5:00 in the morning.
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You run every day.
You plant your own rice.
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You harvest your own food,
and then you practice all day.
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And you do that
for two years.
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So it's
a pretty crazy process,
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but it's a great opportunity
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to get in touch with
yourself,
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because you're constantly
under pressure
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and you're constantly
under stress.
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Right now there are
about 15 apprentices.
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Maybe one or two will
make it into the troupe,
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so it's very,
very selective.
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But the beautiful thing
is, these apprentices,
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even though maybe one or
two make it into the group,
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they have to work together.
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They have to cook
for each other.
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They have to perform
with each other,
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because we're never looking
at them individually.
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We're evaluating them
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based on how well
they work with others,
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how much they
improve others.
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It's hard to see that when
you're in the apprenticeship,
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but once you become
a member, it's very apparent,
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because, you know,
when we're performing,
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you have to be in sync with
everyone without a conductor.
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So these apprentices,
they're constantly
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fighting and competing
with each other.
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But at the same time,
they have to be,
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like, very, very close-knit
with each other.
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So it's difficult,
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but a very, very
rewarding journey.
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Wallach: What's possible
when you move
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from being kind of
a solo player
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to being an ensemble?
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What is it that
you're able to do
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that you couldn't
do alone?
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Ikenaga: You're able to
create something that you
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could never do by yourself.
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You are able to put
yourself into a situation
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where you strive
to be better
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and you strive
to make others better.
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And it's this process that
we go through every day.
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It's really hard
to do that alone.
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It's possible.
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But when you have
someone next to you
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that's drumming
their heart out
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and they're doing the best
that they can
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and they're
doing it every day,
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you want to be
like that person.
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Yeah, it's
pretty incredible.
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Wallach, voice-over: Being here
and experiencing
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how the drummers live
and work together is moving.
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And it makes me wonder
just how much we've lost
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in the pursuit of seeing
ourselves as individuals
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above all else.
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In a time when distrust
feels more common than trust,
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what kind of
collective price are we paying?
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And what type of
futures are waiting
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on the other side of us coming
to see ourselves as connected,
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not alone?
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Man: We are the only species
in the animal kingdom
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with the ability to blush,
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which is, I think,
a telling fact.
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We involuntarily give
away our feelings
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to other members of our species
in order to establish trust.
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We are the only species
among primates
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with white eyes, right?
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So that means people can see--
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I'm looking in the camera
right now.
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If I was a chimpanzee,
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that would have been much more
difficult.
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I'm looking to the left.
Now I'm looking to the right.
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So I'm involuntarily giving
away my gaze,
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which, again,
helps to establish trust.
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So it's in our biology.
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It's in our DNA that
we've been optimized for trust.
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You want to feel like the
social system of which you're
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a member and a participant
has something
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legitimate, fair,
desirable, good,
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something worthy about it.
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We want to feel like
our sports team is
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better than
the other sports teams.
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We want to feel our town or
our city is better than others
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or our university or college
is better than others.
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It could also be
a racial or ethnic group
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or other kinds of social groups.
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That's where
the tribalism comes in.
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Rutger Bregman:
We have created systems
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that increase the distance
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between people, right,
increases the distance between
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people on the work floor
and the managers,
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between the citizens
and the politicians.
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The longer the distance becomes,
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both physical distance
and psychological distance,
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the more difficult
it becomes to trust one another.
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So that's what we have.
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We have a deepening
crisis of trust.
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Person:
Listen, why must we divide?
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Why are we dividing people?
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[indistinct shouting]
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[both speaking Georgian]
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You're completely
destroying our city!
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You come down--
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Reporter:
Things got so heated that
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the board members
eventually walked out,
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leaving the police
to deal with the unruly crowd.
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Different person:
I was so disgusted, like,
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that people
would do this.
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People: Close the border!
Close the border!
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Close the border!
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...for 20 years.
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You're just screaming...
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I was screaming...
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Come on.
No one's giving me free food.
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No one's giving me
free housing.
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We do a tax--
I need order.
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Right?
This is what everyone does.
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[overlapping chatter]
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Woman: OK. Time-out. Time-out.
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[chatter continues]
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[people chanting indistinctly]
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Wallach: We've always
had disagreements,
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but something more serious is
happening here.
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The ideas and institutions
that govern our societies--
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long taken for granted--
have begun being challenged
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in new and unsettling ways.
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Here at Stanford University,
Alice Siu
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is working with her team at
the Deliberative Democracy Lab
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to better understand
where we are right now
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and what we can do to create
lasting change moving forward.
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What is the state
of democracy today?
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Many will say
democracy is in crisis.
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A lot of democracies around
the world are backsliding,
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and we have trouble
trying to figure out
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what a lot of people
actually want,
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what kind of system
of government
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people want to live in.
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But I think, as of today,
a lot of people
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are concerned about whether
their voices are being heard
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and if people are
really representing
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their likes and dislikes.
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Wallach: But Alice also sees
an opportunity here,
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a chance
for new and needed ideas
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around how to improve
our democracies
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in order to better
face the future
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and engage directly
with the citizens they serve.
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A growing set of ideas known
as deliberative democracy
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are beginning to take hold in
countries around the world...
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like here in France,
where they've started holding
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citizen conventions--forums
designed to better engage
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their citizens in addressing
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the major challenges
and opportunities before them.
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Wallach: So how did this
all first come about
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here in France?
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Look, I mean, first, we had
this yellow vest crisis
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in France,
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a crisis of
working classes in France.
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You have a lot of
fears and anxieties,
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climate change,
digitalization, geopolitics.
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And a lot of people in
small cities and so on
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having this feeling not to
be respected by our policies,
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not to have a place anymore
in this world,
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and not to be prepared
for this change.
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So I made this tour,
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and I launched a series
of citizen conventions.
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On a random basis, you
take 100, 200 citizens
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and you formulate a question.
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You put them in
a situation to have
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a lot of interactions
with experts.
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They propose a solution,
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which is based on a consensus
and collective intelligence
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and ability to understand
the complexity of the problem.
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So I did it on climate change.
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It worked because we passed
a law after that
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largely inspired
by the citizen convention,
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and the feedback
was very positive.
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They learned.
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They were very committed,
but they respected each other.
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But for me, this is
a constant work in progress
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because it's never perfect.
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But where
I'm really optimistic
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is that you can have emotions,
positive and negative,
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and argumentation
and rational discussion
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to be merged together
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regarding
our collective future.
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Wallach, voice-over: Back
in the U.S., Alice and her team
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have pioneered something
with similar ideas in mind.
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Wallach: Your team
put together an event
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called
America in One Room.
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What was that?
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It was a four-day-long
deliberative poll,
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where we gathered a nationally
representative sample.
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We flew them in
to Dallas, Texas,
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from across the country.
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There were 523 people that
came from all walks of life,
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and they gathered
together in small groups.
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They deliberated
about immigration,
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economy, foreign policy.
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And for four days,
they discussed
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in their small groups
about these topics,
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and then they had
panels of experts.
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And, actually, five
then-presidential candidates
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answer their questions.
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What we learned
from 500-plus people is
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that people can and will
change their minds
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after just four days of
being with each other.
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We learned that those that
may have had extreme positions
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on either side of the spectrum
actually moderated
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and became
closer to each other.
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We learned that after
deliberation together,
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they liked each other more.
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They came to understand
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why the other
person held certain views.
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President Macron: I think,
especially on a local basis,
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we have to find a way
to involve citizens,
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make them much more
player of the game
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and doer of
our democracies.
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Wallach: Paint a picture
for me of the democracy
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that you want to see.
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We don't have
to live like this today.
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We can change it now, and we
can have those conversations
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that build empathy.
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We can have those
structured conversations.
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We can build those skills.
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And if we just start
somewhere and not wait,
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then we can really
get to that future
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where everyone actually
listens to each other
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and our democracy
is held together
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by everyone that's involved.
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Man: It's the organization
of humanity,
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the self-organization
of humanity
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which is the key change
that needs to happen.
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Now, we live in this
extraordinary situation
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where a tiny number
of people,
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which calls itself
a government,
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claims
to be able to control
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this complex system that we
call society from the center.
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There is no complex system
on Earth
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that can be controlled
from the center.
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It can't possibly work.
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And yet at the same time, we
have this tremendous capacity
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for participatory,
for deliberative democracy,
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where we can come together
and make decisions together
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for the good of all.
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And where we've been
allowed to do this,
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if only on a small scale,
or a partial scale,
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the results have
been extraordinary.
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โช
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Rutger Bregman: I think it's
quite clear that we are living
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through probably
the most dangerous century
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in the history of our species.
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It could also be
the most prosperous century
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and the most exciting century
to be alive.
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What we need are people
who are willing and able
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to look forward to a future
that could be
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so, so much better than
the world we live in today.
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Wallach: In some ways right now,
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that can feel naive,
even impossible.
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But this idea of
building on our desire
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for connection and cooperation
can begin anywhere.
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And that's what's led me
to Nashville,
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where Reverend Jennifer Bailey
is working to create
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new forms of community
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to reach across what feels
like a growing divide.
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It used to be, you know,
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we kind of find
some common ground.
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We kind of live together.
We broke bread together.
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Now it just seems
ripped apart.
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What do you attribute
that to?
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It's feeling--it feels
very strong right now.
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Yeah.
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People are experiencing,
in the U.S. context at least,
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higher rates of loneliness and
isolation than ever before.
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And where they find
community can often be
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in these online pockets,
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where they're getting
talked to by the same folks.
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And, see,
the world becomes--
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rather than becoming bigger
and having spaces
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where people can hear more
in the marketplace of ideas,
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it becomes
smaller and more rigid.
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And then you, like, make
the fool's errand
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of believing everybody
thinks like you.
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And the person who doesn't,
then, must be my enemy.
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Tell me about the work
that you're doing
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and how you kind of
got started in it.
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Yeah, so the People's Supper
was a project
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that I co-founded
with two friends
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after the 2016
U.S. presidential election.
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We wanted to create spaces
around dinner tables
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for people to begin
having conversations
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across lines of difference,
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whether that be political,
ideological, religious,
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racial difference.
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We've hosted thousands
of suppers around the country.
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And I think at the core
of those suppers
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and our time together
is really an ability
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for people to hear each other
and not just deeper speech,
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but deeper personhood,
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to be reminded of the fact
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that we are not
just how we vote
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or how we look, but that we
are a collection of stories
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and that our story
is not individual
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but the continuation
of other stories
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and prologue to the stories
that are to come,
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even if it's just
for one meal.
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Wallach, voice-over: While I was
in town, Jennifer invited me
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to one of these dinner parties,
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joining a small group
of people
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from various walks of life
and different backgrounds
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to sit down together
for a shared meal.
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[indistinct chatter]
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We're gonna have a fun
conversation tonight.
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I like to say
you all are joining,
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whether you knew it or not,
a movement of people
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who've been gathering
around the country
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over the past six years
almost.
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Well, just to toast you all,
thank you for being here.
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So grateful
for this time together.
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Wallach, voice-over: That night,
I experienced something
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so simple and yet profound.
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I witnessed a group of
strangers,
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who in some ways
have nothing in common,
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come to see the common
humanity they all share.
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Our past and our stories
are unique,
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and yet what we want to see
unfold in the future,
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for ourselves
and for those we love,
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is so much more alike than what
we often stop to consider.
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I really feel like we're
at a period of rebirthing
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and remaking the world.
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And we see that
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with the intensity
of the climate crisis.
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We see that
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with threats to the notion
of democracy globally.
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We're at a real inflection
point in global history.
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I find myself asking,
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What does it mean
to be human in the future?
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What are the things
that aren't replaceable?
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And care for one another
feels like something
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that we will never be
able to fully replace.
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Wallach: For tens of thousands
of years, even for centuries,
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we would live
kind of collectively
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in relatively dense
accommodation.
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Even just in
the past 150 years,
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many of us
began living in cities,
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but something happened,
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especially
in America after World War II.
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We had returning GIs and
a rapidly expanding population
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with not enough housing.
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A lot of these people
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needed to be close
to cities for jobs,
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and so the cities gave way
to surrounding suburbs.
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You and I live in a period
of tremendous growth
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with many problems.
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Across the United States,
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new homes are springing up
by the thousands
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for our rapidly growing
population.
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Modern shopping centers
satisfy most
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of the material needs of
suburban dwellers
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who no longer depend on
the city as a retail center.
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Wallach: Now, the suburbs
could only happen in America
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with the advent
of the vehicle.
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We needed vehicles to live in
these new kind of communities.
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And as they continued
to expand,
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the newly needed roads
did as well,
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in some cases paving roads
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right through the heart
of existing neighborhoods,
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separating what had been
thriving communities.
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American suburbs
were held up as a symbol
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of a thriving middle class,
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but they had a distancing
effect on people as well.
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Common areas
for human connection
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were replaced
by individual spaces
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and separated by greater
and greater distances.
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What ends up happening
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is a sense of separation
between people
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right in the midst
of their own communities.
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How does architecture,
how does urban planning,
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and how do the neighborhoods
we live in today
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impact how we relate
to each other?
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How can we build
futures where we design
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for more human connectedness?
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And is that
even possible in a moment
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that feels more deeply divided
than anything in our lifetimes?
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I came to Washington
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to sit down with the Secretary
of Transportation,
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Pete Buttigieg,
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someone who thinks a lot
about how we are shaping
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not only the social fabric
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but the actual infrastructure
of America.
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You're leading the Department
of Transportation.
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That's real infrastructure.
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It's bridges. It's tunnels.
It's airports. It's roads.
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That being said, what are
the takeaways to build
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other types of kind of
social infrastructure,
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in a sense more of that
human connective tissue?
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Well, there's
a very real relationship
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between how we connect
to each other physically
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through transportation
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and how we connect
to each other socially.
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Even in an era where we
are discovering
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remote and hybrid
and virtual interaction,
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we're also seeing
how important it can be
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to just be
around each other
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or to literally
walk the streets
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of one another's
communities,
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to travel and understand
through travel
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how other societies work.
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One finding that I think
is very powerful
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is when people get to
know each other better,
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they tend to trust
each other more, not less.
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It's 30 years from now,
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and you're talking to your
children about this era,
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this moment in human history.
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How do you describe it?
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Well, I'm gonna tell them
that this was a moment
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when a lot of changes
happened in our society,
506
00:24:03,066 --> 00:24:04,666
certainly in transportation,
507
00:24:04,666 --> 00:24:07,800
and those changes led to
their lives getting better.
508
00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,833
I think that we need to be
in a season of building,
509
00:24:11,833 --> 00:24:13,500
not just because
we have a backlog
510
00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:15,166
and there's a bunch of stuff
we should have been doing
511
00:24:15,166 --> 00:24:16,800
the whole time
but because the projects
512
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,333
that are ahead
in this century--
513
00:24:19,333 --> 00:24:22,166
the big shared national
and human projects--
514
00:24:22,166 --> 00:24:24,333
like confronting
climate change,
515
00:24:24,333 --> 00:24:26,800
staying a step ahead
of the next pandemic,
516
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,800
preventing
nuclear conflict--
517
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,666
will require levels
of cooperation
518
00:24:31,666 --> 00:24:34,333
that, in turn, require
519
00:24:34,333 --> 00:24:36,800
a lot of good
infrastructure.
520
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,700
Are we able to rebuild
521
00:24:39,700 --> 00:24:41,833
to that kind of golden era
of community
522
00:24:41,833 --> 00:24:43,500
that we once had?
523
00:24:43,500 --> 00:24:46,333
Yeah, I believe we can,
and I believe we must.
524
00:24:46,333 --> 00:24:48,166
This is not
just important
525
00:24:48,166 --> 00:24:51,166
because of some vague
and romantic conception
526
00:24:51,166 --> 00:24:54,500
of neighborhoods
and communities.
527
00:24:54,500 --> 00:24:56,833
It's also got
life-and-death consequences.
528
00:24:56,833 --> 00:24:58,333
There's evidence,
for example,
529
00:24:58,333 --> 00:25:01,233
that the survivability
of tornadoes--
530
00:25:01,233 --> 00:25:03,400
all other things
being equal--
531
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,066
goes up in neighborhoods
or communities
532
00:25:06,066 --> 00:25:08,100
where neighbors
know each other.
533
00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:09,433
So a simple principle
or test,
534
00:25:09,433 --> 00:25:12,566
whether you're designing
a suburban subdivision
535
00:25:12,566 --> 00:25:14,400
or a dense city block,
536
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,566
would be, Does
this design encourage
537
00:25:17,566 --> 00:25:19,233
or discourage people
538
00:25:19,233 --> 00:25:21,566
from knowing
who their neighbors are?
539
00:25:21,566 --> 00:25:24,066
I really believe in so many
of these dimensions--
540
00:25:24,066 --> 00:25:28,066
political, social,
even technological--
541
00:25:28,066 --> 00:25:31,100
our salvation
will come from the local.
542
00:25:31,100 --> 00:25:32,733
And we need processes
543
00:25:32,733 --> 00:25:36,233
that empower
local decision making.
544
00:25:36,233 --> 00:25:46,433
โช
545
00:25:46,433 --> 00:25:49,100
Wallach, voice-over: We spend
a lot of time these days
546
00:25:49,100 --> 00:25:51,066
separating ourselves
into groups
547
00:25:51,066 --> 00:25:53,100
based on ideas and identity.
548
00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:55,100
But I wanted to see
what's possible
549
00:25:55,100 --> 00:25:57,233
when a local community
decides to build together
550
00:25:57,233 --> 00:26:00,300
around a shared sense
of belief and belonging.
551
00:26:00,300 --> 00:26:03,166
In Amsterdam,
Marjan de Blok decided
552
00:26:03,166 --> 00:26:04,800
to do just that,
when she helped create
553
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,300
a floating village right
here in the heart of the city.
554
00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:10,633
Wallach: Usually when I
show up to a village,
555
00:26:10,633 --> 00:26:12,300
I just take, like, a path,
556
00:26:12,300 --> 00:26:14,133
and I just, you know, start
walking among the homes.
557
00:26:14,133 --> 00:26:16,166
But here I
immediately walked
558
00:26:16,166 --> 00:26:17,633
onto a dock on the water.
559
00:26:17,633 --> 00:26:19,800
So tell me where we are.
560
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,500
You are in the north
of Amsterdam
561
00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:23,333
in Johan van Hasseltkanaal.
562
00:26:23,333 --> 00:26:26,133
And I'm the founder
of this village
563
00:26:26,133 --> 00:26:28,166
that you are in right now.
564
00:26:28,166 --> 00:26:31,466
One school--one school
is here, very near...
565
00:26:31,466 --> 00:26:33,133
Marjan de Blok, voice-over:
So we have a big jetty
566
00:26:33,133 --> 00:26:34,800
connecting all the houses.
567
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,166
There are actually
46 households living here.
568
00:26:37,166 --> 00:26:40,500
We are a community,
so we share a lot together.
569
00:26:40,500 --> 00:26:44,300
And we try to live
as sustainable as possible.
570
00:26:44,300 --> 00:26:46,300
All our houses
have solar panels.
571
00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:48,133
All our houses
have a heat pump.
572
00:26:48,133 --> 00:26:53,166
We have a green roof,
and all the houses are built
573
00:26:53,166 --> 00:26:55,166
with sustainable materials.
574
00:26:55,166 --> 00:26:58,166
All houses are
really well-insulated.
575
00:26:58,166 --> 00:27:01,533
And we have a smart grid,
which is quite special.
576
00:27:01,533 --> 00:27:03,400
By the smart grid,
we are all connected,
577
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,066
so we can exchange
578
00:27:05,066 --> 00:27:07,833
the surpluses of
the energy we generated.
579
00:27:07,833 --> 00:27:10,200
And all the houses
have a battery.
580
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,066
And in this battery,
we can also save energy
581
00:27:14,066 --> 00:27:16,066
that we don't need
at that moment.
582
00:27:16,066 --> 00:27:18,566
If one house generates
more electricity
583
00:27:18,566 --> 00:27:20,366
and another house
needs more electricity,
584
00:27:20,366 --> 00:27:21,833
you can share electricity
among the homes?
585
00:27:21,833 --> 00:27:24,100
Yeah.
That's how it goes.
586
00:27:24,100 --> 00:27:25,833
So what was the motivation
587
00:27:25,833 --> 00:27:28,200
for starting
a community like this?
588
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:29,833
Well, it actually
started 15 years ago.
589
00:27:29,833 --> 00:27:32,533
At that time, I was living
in a small house in Amsterdam.
590
00:27:32,533 --> 00:27:34,366
I hardly knew my neighbors,
591
00:27:34,366 --> 00:27:36,700
and it was all really kind of
lonely and individualistic.
592
00:27:36,700 --> 00:27:38,533
And I just completely
fell in love
593
00:27:38,533 --> 00:27:42,066
with the concept of living
sustainable on the water,
594
00:27:42,066 --> 00:27:43,833
but also to live
a more social life,
595
00:27:43,833 --> 00:27:45,700
because that was something
596
00:27:45,700 --> 00:27:47,700
that I was really missing
at that time.
597
00:27:47,700 --> 00:27:50,200
I had this idea of
starting a group.
598
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,833
Build a couple of
houseboats together,
599
00:27:51,833 --> 00:27:53,833
make them sustainable.
600
00:27:53,833 --> 00:27:57,700
And living on the water makes
you feel closer to nature.
601
00:27:57,700 --> 00:28:01,433
And the fact that you would
generate your own electricity
602
00:28:01,433 --> 00:28:04,266
gave me this really
great sense of freedom,
603
00:28:04,266 --> 00:28:06,100
a feeling that I would
never have
604
00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:08,433
in the house that
I was living in.
605
00:28:08,433 --> 00:28:12,300
[indistinct chatter]
606
00:28:12,300 --> 00:28:20,266
[music]
607
00:28:20,266 --> 00:28:22,133
Whoo.
608
00:28:22,133 --> 00:28:23,766
Wallach:
So tell me more about
609
00:28:23,766 --> 00:28:27,133
what it's like
living in community.
610
00:28:27,133 --> 00:28:29,100
De Blok: Yeah.
It's uncomparable.
611
00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:31,433
It's uncomparable.
It's a feeling...
612
00:28:31,433 --> 00:28:34,266
You are never alone.
613
00:28:34,266 --> 00:28:38,133
You have like-minded
people around you.
614
00:28:38,133 --> 00:28:42,133
If you have to do everything
by yourself, it's not fun.
615
00:28:42,133 --> 00:28:45,266
And so then
the community makes it nice
616
00:28:45,266 --> 00:28:49,133
to try all these new
sustainable technologies.
617
00:28:49,133 --> 00:28:52,133
So I really think that
the community is needed
618
00:28:52,133 --> 00:28:55,433
for a transition to
a more sustainable society.
619
00:28:55,433 --> 00:28:57,266
Hi.
Hello.
620
00:28:57,266 --> 00:28:59,766
De Blok, voice-over:
When I started this
621
00:28:59,766 --> 00:29:01,533
or when I had
this initial idea,
622
00:29:01,533 --> 00:29:04,333
I had no idea how important
it was, what we were doing.
623
00:29:04,333 --> 00:29:05,800
[indistinct chatter]
624
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,800
And that it's also
about, what can you do,
625
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:12,333
instead of what
you can't do or what is--
626
00:29:12,333 --> 00:29:13,833
you can't eat meat,
627
00:29:13,833 --> 00:29:15,666
you can't drive a car,
you can't fly.
628
00:29:15,666 --> 00:29:17,666
It's all, like, negative.
629
00:29:17,666 --> 00:29:20,500
And, of course, those things
are important to keep in mind
630
00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:22,166
and to adjust your behavior,
631
00:29:22,166 --> 00:29:24,800
but there's
also another side to it.
632
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,666
And I think that's
the side that we touched
633
00:29:27,666 --> 00:29:29,833
and realized here
with this community,
634
00:29:29,833 --> 00:29:32,333
because it's all positive.
635
00:29:32,333 --> 00:29:35,666
It's all about connection--
connection to your neighbors
636
00:29:35,666 --> 00:29:37,800
but also connection
to your environment.
637
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,833
If you are connected
to your environment,
638
00:29:39,833 --> 00:29:42,800
you will think twice
before polluting it.
639
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,333
There's a lot of respect
for one another,
640
00:29:45,333 --> 00:29:47,333
and I think everybody
realizes that it's
641
00:29:47,333 --> 00:29:51,333
not just a jetty
with some houses.
642
00:29:51,333 --> 00:29:54,800
I feel that it's an organism
that is still growing,
643
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,066
and it's almost
an organism in itself,
644
00:29:58,066 --> 00:30:00,833
like, a live thing.
645
00:30:00,833 --> 00:30:03,800
It's not just a project.
646
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,800
And I think people
realize that.
647
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,333
So they know it's special,
what we have.
648
00:30:08,333 --> 00:30:11,066
And that's a really
nice feeling
649
00:30:11,066 --> 00:30:12,800
if you have that
in your daily life.
650
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:16,366
[both speaking Dutch]
651
00:30:16,366 --> 00:30:18,166
Wallach, voice-over:
It's so exciting to think about
652
00:30:18,166 --> 00:30:19,800
the futures we can create
when we design
653
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,333
with human connectedness
in mind.
654
00:30:22,333 --> 00:30:25,833
Collaboration and cooperation
is how we got to this point,
655
00:30:25,833 --> 00:30:27,333
and it's
our only path forward.
656
00:30:27,333 --> 00:30:30,333
And yet, in so many ways
right now,
657
00:30:30,333 --> 00:30:32,366
it feels like we're
moving further away
658
00:30:32,366 --> 00:30:34,833
from these
primary human traits.
659
00:30:34,833 --> 00:30:36,800
Bregman: What makes us special?
660
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,066
Why have we humans
conquered the globe?
661
00:30:40,066 --> 00:30:41,833
Why not the Neanderthals,
you know?
662
00:30:41,833 --> 00:30:43,800
The Neanderthals
were pretty smart as well.
663
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,833
Actually, they had
bigger brains than us.
664
00:30:45,833 --> 00:30:47,500
Why not the bonobos?
Why not the chimpanzees?
665
00:30:47,500 --> 00:30:50,200
What distinguishes us
as a species?
666
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,500
John Jost: All of us
are individuals.
667
00:30:53,500 --> 00:30:55,500
And we have
individual needs, wishes,
668
00:30:55,500 --> 00:30:56,800
wants, desires, and so on.
669
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,533
But we also are
part of social groups
670
00:30:59,533 --> 00:31:01,566
that can mean a lot to us.
671
00:31:01,566 --> 00:31:04,766
Man: Being human
is this team sport,
672
00:31:04,766 --> 00:31:06,600
is this collective,
collaborative
673
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,566
endeavor that we actually
have to bring ourselves to.
674
00:31:10,566 --> 00:31:14,066
This whole story of evolution,
that may the best man win--
675
00:31:14,066 --> 00:31:16,100
that's not
what Darwin was saying at all.
676
00:31:16,100 --> 00:31:18,400
Page after page,
what he's actually doing
677
00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,066
is marveling at
the way different species
678
00:31:21,066 --> 00:31:24,400
communicate and collaborate
for mutual survival.
679
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,400
Bregman: There's a really
old idea that's deeply embedded
680
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,233
in our culture
and in our history,
681
00:31:32,233 --> 00:31:37,100
which says that human beings
are fundamentally selfish.
682
00:31:37,100 --> 00:31:39,733
So what scientists
now believe is
683
00:31:39,733 --> 00:31:43,566
that the secret of our success
is not our intelligence,
684
00:31:43,566 --> 00:31:45,233
it's not our strength.
685
00:31:45,233 --> 00:31:47,733
No, it's our ability
to work together.
686
00:31:47,733 --> 00:31:49,733
It's our friendliness.
687
00:31:49,733 --> 00:31:53,400
So this is what they call
survival of the friendliest,
688
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,733
and it's basically the secret
of our whole story.
689
00:32:00,466 --> 00:32:03,300
Wallach, voice-over: These ideas
matter more than ever
690
00:32:03,300 --> 00:32:05,133
because we have important,
unfinished things
691
00:32:05,133 --> 00:32:08,133
to do right now that we
can only do together.
692
00:32:08,133 --> 00:32:11,300
One of these things is
creating enough housing
693
00:32:11,300 --> 00:32:13,633
for everyone who needs it.
694
00:32:13,633 --> 00:32:16,800
In Austin, Melodie Yashar
and her team at ICON
695
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,166
are working on ways
to meet this challenge
696
00:32:19,166 --> 00:32:21,466
by building 3-D-printed homes
that can be printed
697
00:32:21,466 --> 00:32:23,800
in a matter of weeks.
698
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,133
OK, so tell me,
Where are we right now?
699
00:32:26,133 --> 00:32:27,800
We are in House Zero.
700
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,133
House Zero is a project that
we both designed and built
701
00:32:32,133 --> 00:32:36,300
in collaboration with
the architect Lake Flato.
702
00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:38,466
And it is intended
to showcase
703
00:32:38,466 --> 00:32:40,466
what is possible
using 3D printing.
704
00:32:40,466 --> 00:32:43,166
It is a project
that we took on
705
00:32:43,166 --> 00:32:46,133
as a research-and-development
effort to show what's possible
706
00:32:46,133 --> 00:32:49,300
and to introduce
to the general public
707
00:32:49,300 --> 00:32:51,800
what it's like
to live on the inside
708
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,133
and be on the inside
of a 3-D-printed home.
709
00:32:54,133 --> 00:32:56,166
Give me a sense
of the problem.
710
00:32:56,166 --> 00:32:58,800
Like, how many people are
we talking are unhoused
711
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,200
in the U.S. and globally?
712
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,533
Melodie Yashar: It's close
to a billion people,
713
00:33:03,533 --> 00:33:06,566
a billion homes that
we need to deliver
714
00:33:06,566 --> 00:33:08,700
to address
the global housing crisis.
715
00:33:08,700 --> 00:33:10,700
The way that we've
been building--
716
00:33:10,700 --> 00:33:13,700
using sticks and bricks
of the past, and steel--
717
00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:16,700
is just not getting
us there fast enough.
718
00:33:16,700 --> 00:33:18,700
And so, to really address
719
00:33:18,700 --> 00:33:21,833
and make a true impact
in this problem,
720
00:33:21,833 --> 00:33:24,833
automated technologies
can get us there.
721
00:33:24,833 --> 00:33:28,066
And 3-D printing, of course,
is one of them.
722
00:33:28,066 --> 00:33:31,066
Take me through what
actually happened here
723
00:33:31,066 --> 00:33:32,533
and in general, right?
724
00:33:32,533 --> 00:33:34,833
We'll start off
with a concrete slab.
725
00:33:34,833 --> 00:33:38,066
So you have level ground.
Now what happens?
726
00:33:38,066 --> 00:33:42,533
Yashar: Once a slab is poured,
we deploy our 3-D printer,
727
00:33:42,533 --> 00:33:46,533
which is a 9,600-pound
Gantry-based robot.
728
00:33:46,533 --> 00:33:50,200
We deploy it on rails
adjacent to that slab,
729
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,200
so the Y rails run back
and forth and parallel
730
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,066
to the slab.
731
00:33:55,066 --> 00:33:58,200
And then we have two towers,
as well as an X beam,
732
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,266
that goes across
those towers,
733
00:34:00,266 --> 00:34:04,433
which essentially comprise
the overall Gantry system.
734
00:34:04,433 --> 00:34:06,800
We have
a material-handling system
735
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,100
that travels
through a very long hose
736
00:34:09,100 --> 00:34:12,100
and gets deposited
at the nozzle of the printer.
737
00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:17,133
And layer by layer,
the structure is fabricated.
738
00:34:20,633 --> 00:34:23,700
Yashar: We are at
the Wolf Ranch development.
739
00:34:23,700 --> 00:34:26,266
This is a 100-home community.
740
00:34:26,266 --> 00:34:29,433
This represents the largest
3-D-printed community
741
00:34:29,433 --> 00:34:31,600
that we're aware of
in the world.
742
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,600
And as you can see,
it's well underway.
743
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,200
We have multiple printers
printing simultaneously,
744
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,166
adjacent to slabs that
have been poured by Lennar.
745
00:34:41,166 --> 00:34:43,433
And we're delivering
the vertical-wall system,
746
00:34:43,433 --> 00:34:46,133
which is the 3-D-printed
walls of these houses.
747
00:34:46,133 --> 00:34:48,133
Wallach: And how long
does it usually take
748
00:34:48,133 --> 00:34:49,766
for one of these homes
to go up?
749
00:34:49,766 --> 00:34:52,133
Roughly, two weeks
on average,
750
00:34:52,133 --> 00:34:53,466
assuming that we have
751
00:34:53,466 --> 00:34:56,166
continuous
24-hour-a-day printing.
752
00:34:56,166 --> 00:34:58,100
But that's
essentially the idea,
753
00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:00,433
is that we deploy
the printer within a day,
754
00:35:00,433 --> 00:35:03,133
the printer prints
the home,
755
00:35:03,133 --> 00:35:05,333
and the home
is finished traditionally.
756
00:35:05,333 --> 00:35:07,166
You put on
a traditional roof.
757
00:35:07,166 --> 00:35:09,366
Your plumbing and all
of that--electrical--
758
00:35:09,366 --> 00:35:12,200
happens still traditionally.
759
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,766
I also know in your bio,
you're an architect
760
00:35:14,766 --> 00:35:17,666
for both on-world
and off-world architecture.
761
00:35:17,666 --> 00:35:19,666
So the on-world I get.
We're here.
762
00:35:19,666 --> 00:35:22,333
Tell me more about
the off-world work.
763
00:35:22,333 --> 00:35:25,100
3-D printing is
a leading contender
764
00:35:25,100 --> 00:35:27,333
in in-space construction
765
00:35:27,333 --> 00:35:30,800
because the premise for
3-D printing in space is
766
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,200
that we would use local
and indigenous materials
767
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,500
on the surface of the planet
768
00:35:36,500 --> 00:35:39,366
rather than bringing
anything with us from Earth.
769
00:35:39,366 --> 00:35:43,133
That's a really
high-impact concept
770
00:35:43,133 --> 00:35:45,500
because it is
prohibitively expensive
771
00:35:45,500 --> 00:35:49,333
to launch heavy materials
from Earth to space.
772
00:35:49,333 --> 00:35:51,766
And it's not going to
enable us to create
773
00:35:51,766 --> 00:35:56,166
the kinds of infrastructure,
small cities, and settlements
774
00:35:56,166 --> 00:35:58,533
that we've seen
in science-fiction images
775
00:35:58,533 --> 00:36:00,400
for decades in the past.
776
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,400
So NASA is really interested,
777
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,833
and other aerospace companies
are really interested,
778
00:36:04,833 --> 00:36:06,266
in this idea of using
779
00:36:06,266 --> 00:36:09,233
the soil that is local
to the moon and Mars
780
00:36:09,233 --> 00:36:13,233
and sending up a single
3D-printing robot
781
00:36:13,233 --> 00:36:16,100
that can leverage that soil
and those materials
782
00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:17,666
to 3-D print, really,
783
00:36:17,666 --> 00:36:21,100
any kind of infrastructure or
any kind of surface element
784
00:36:21,100 --> 00:36:24,066
that would be beneficial
to the crew.
785
00:36:25,033 --> 00:36:27,100
Wallach, voice-over:
The collaboration and innovation
786
00:36:27,100 --> 00:36:29,066
at work here is beautiful.
787
00:36:29,066 --> 00:36:31,233
And it's inspiring
to see how solving problems
788
00:36:31,233 --> 00:36:33,733
with creativity and concern
for the here and now
789
00:36:33,733 --> 00:36:37,233
is the same work as building
far-off futures as well.
790
00:36:37,233 --> 00:36:40,066
Narrator: Our story
is about you and me
791
00:36:40,066 --> 00:36:43,233
and why we are alike
in some ways
792
00:36:43,233 --> 00:36:47,033
and yet why each person
is different from every other.
793
00:36:49,066 --> 00:36:52,400
Bregman: Cynicism is
another word for laziness,
794
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,833
because if things
are lost anyway,
795
00:36:54,833 --> 00:36:56,266
then you don't have
to do anything.
796
00:36:56,266 --> 00:36:58,800
You can just sit back
and, I don't know,
797
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,300
make the best of
your own life, and that's it.
798
00:37:02,300 --> 00:37:03,833
If things are not lost,
799
00:37:03,833 --> 00:37:06,233
if we can do so much better
as a species,
800
00:37:06,233 --> 00:37:09,133
then that gives
you a certain responsibility.
801
00:37:09,133 --> 00:37:10,800
Douglas Rushkoff: If you want
to call human beings
802
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,133
the most evolved species,
it's because we've evolved
803
00:37:13,133 --> 00:37:14,500
the most elaborate means
804
00:37:14,500 --> 00:37:16,400
of collaboration
and communication,
805
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,666
letting us do stuff together.
806
00:37:18,666 --> 00:37:20,833
When you start
to understand that nature is
807
00:37:20,833 --> 00:37:23,166
a collaborative dance
of different things,
808
00:37:23,166 --> 00:37:26,166
you start to understand, Oh,
well, being human is that, too.
809
00:37:26,166 --> 00:37:27,666
We are not alone.
810
00:37:27,666 --> 00:37:31,233
We are in one big,
connected nervous system.
811
00:37:31,233 --> 00:37:35,166
Bregman: We become the stories
that we tell ourselves.
812
00:37:35,166 --> 00:37:37,800
What kind of society
are you gonna create?
813
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,566
So, for example,
814
00:37:39,566 --> 00:37:43,466
I think we should get into
that problem-solving mind-set
815
00:37:43,466 --> 00:37:47,666
and think about, like, What
are the really big challenges
816
00:37:47,666 --> 00:37:49,800
that we face
as a species today,
817
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,666
and what are the most
effective solutions?
818
00:37:57,133 --> 00:38:00,066
Wallach: I'm often asked
how new tools will enable us
819
00:38:00,066 --> 00:38:01,700
to solve these challenges,
820
00:38:01,700 --> 00:38:04,166
but the truth is
that all too often,
821
00:38:04,166 --> 00:38:06,200
what we lack are not
the technologies
822
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,366
but, rather, the collective
will to act together
823
00:38:09,366 --> 00:38:11,366
on behalf of our
neighbors and communities
824
00:38:11,366 --> 00:38:13,200
rather than just ourselves.
825
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,066
One of these challenges is
around food,
826
00:38:16,066 --> 00:38:18,300
a constant source of
unnecessary suffering
827
00:38:18,300 --> 00:38:19,833
all over the world,
828
00:38:19,833 --> 00:38:22,100
including right here
in this country,
829
00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:23,533
where a shocking amount of
830
00:38:23,533 --> 00:38:25,700
us are still hungry
and food insecure.
831
00:38:25,700 --> 00:38:29,100
In Upstate New York, a farmer
named Karen Washington
832
00:38:29,100 --> 00:38:31,533
has spent her life fighting
for a different future,
833
00:38:31,533 --> 00:38:34,533
one in which healthy,
affordable food for everyone
834
00:38:34,533 --> 00:38:37,066
is seen as
an essential human right.
835
00:38:37,066 --> 00:38:38,200
Wallach: Here we are--
836
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,066
beautiful, kind of,
Upstate New York.
837
00:38:40,066 --> 00:38:42,400
Tell me,
did you grow up here?
838
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,066
No.
839
00:38:44,066 --> 00:38:46,066
Believe it or not, I grew
up in the concrete jungle
840
00:38:46,066 --> 00:38:47,700
of New York City.
841
00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:49,366
As a matter of fact,
I grew up in the projects,
842
00:38:49,366 --> 00:38:51,366
Lower East Side,
so those were my roots.
843
00:38:51,366 --> 00:38:54,200
I started really growing
food back in the city,
844
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,066
back in the 1980s.
845
00:38:56,066 --> 00:39:00,100
And then came a time where
my friends and I decided,
846
00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:02,266
Let's try something
bigger.
847
00:39:02,266 --> 00:39:06,266
And so we landed
here back in 2014.
848
00:39:06,266 --> 00:39:08,600
You're here
at Rise & Root Farm,
849
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,266
which is in Chester,
New York, Orange County.
850
00:39:11,266 --> 00:39:14,433
We are in the Black Dirt
Region of Orange County.
851
00:39:14,433 --> 00:39:16,766
So what does that mean,
the Black Dirt Region?
852
00:39:16,766 --> 00:39:19,433
Well, if you look at soil,
853
00:39:19,433 --> 00:39:22,133
normally, it's between 1%,
maybe 2% of organic matter.
854
00:39:22,133 --> 00:39:23,466
But here, the soil is 40%.
855
00:39:23,466 --> 00:39:25,133
Wow.
856
00:39:25,133 --> 00:39:27,100
So GreenThumb is
the organization
857
00:39:27,100 --> 00:39:30,133
in New York City that runs
the community gardens.
858
00:39:30,133 --> 00:39:31,466
So we grow for them.
859
00:39:31,466 --> 00:39:34,100
There are over 400 community
gardens in New York City.
860
00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:37,766
And so we've been asked
the task
861
00:39:37,766 --> 00:39:39,433
of growing their starts.
862
00:39:39,433 --> 00:39:41,433
And so each
community garden will get
863
00:39:41,433 --> 00:39:45,100
a tray of flowers and herbs
864
00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:48,100
and a tray of vegetables.
865
00:39:48,100 --> 00:39:50,433
And so yesterday we did
866
00:39:50,433 --> 00:39:53,266
all the flowers and herbs.
867
00:39:53,266 --> 00:39:56,600
And today we're doing
all of the vegetables.
868
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,100
Wallach, voice-over:
When they leave the farm,
869
00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:01,100
these plants are sent out
to community gardens
870
00:40:01,100 --> 00:40:02,833
across New York City that
are working
871
00:40:02,833 --> 00:40:04,766
to fight hunger and food poverty
872
00:40:04,766 --> 00:40:08,100
by equipping local communities
in underserved neighborhoods
873
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:10,433
to grow their own food.
874
00:40:10,433 --> 00:40:15,133
Wallach: What's the role of
food in America today?
875
00:40:15,133 --> 00:40:18,266
I think it has
been co-opted.
876
00:40:18,266 --> 00:40:21,100
If you think of food,
food is the essence
877
00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:23,100
of nourishment
for human beings.
878
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:25,766
But I think that has
now been made
879
00:40:25,766 --> 00:40:27,433
more of a profit
sort of thing.
880
00:40:27,433 --> 00:40:30,433
And it has divided
the human race
881
00:40:30,433 --> 00:40:32,433
for the haves
and have-nots.
882
00:40:32,433 --> 00:40:35,100
You know, people in
low-income neighborhoods
883
00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:36,700
have food that is cheap.
884
00:40:36,700 --> 00:40:39,266
It's processed food.
It's fast food, junk food.
885
00:40:39,266 --> 00:40:41,100
And people who
are more affluent have
886
00:40:41,100 --> 00:40:44,166
"healthy, organic foods."
887
00:40:44,166 --> 00:40:47,100
Back in the day,
it was the small farmers.
888
00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:48,766
It has been
industrialized.
889
00:40:48,766 --> 00:40:51,600
And so what happened is
that this sort of
890
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,133
commercialization
of farmers
891
00:40:54,133 --> 00:40:56,600
started swallowing up
small farmers.
892
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:59,100
The emphasis was
on that mighty dollar,
893
00:40:59,100 --> 00:41:00,800
you know,
on a capitalistic system
894
00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,500
to produce food
at a rate
895
00:41:04,500 --> 00:41:07,666
that we wind up
producing so much food
896
00:41:07,666 --> 00:41:09,333
and wasting so much food,
897
00:41:09,333 --> 00:41:10,800
yet that food is not
getting
898
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,833
down to the people
that need it the most.
899
00:41:12,833 --> 00:41:14,500
Why is that?
900
00:41:14,500 --> 00:41:16,500
Why is it that just
the healthiest stuff
901
00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:17,800
goes to one group
902
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,500
and the overly processed
goes to another group?
903
00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:22,166
I think for so long,
904
00:41:22,166 --> 00:41:23,500
we have been complacent
as a society.
905
00:41:23,500 --> 00:41:25,666
We have gone home
in our nice houses
906
00:41:25,666 --> 00:41:28,333
with our nice cars
and closed the door
907
00:41:28,333 --> 00:41:30,333
and said, you know,
"That's not my problem.
908
00:41:30,333 --> 00:41:32,166
That's someone else's
problem."
909
00:41:32,166 --> 00:41:34,066
Why, in the greatest
country in the world,
910
00:41:34,066 --> 00:41:36,166
where we grow enough food
and we waste enough food,
911
00:41:36,166 --> 00:41:37,666
yet that food is not
getting
912
00:41:37,666 --> 00:41:39,666
down to the people
that need it the most?
913
00:41:39,666 --> 00:41:40,833
Why is it it's based
on race,
914
00:41:40,833 --> 00:41:42,833
the color of your skin?
915
00:41:42,833 --> 00:41:44,500
Why is it based
on where you live?
916
00:41:44,500 --> 00:41:46,266
Why is it based on
how much money you have?
917
00:41:46,266 --> 00:41:48,266
And start having
those hard conversations
918
00:41:48,266 --> 00:41:49,833
that we don't have.
919
00:41:49,833 --> 00:41:52,600
Wallach, voice-over:
The challenges in food systems
920
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,800
here and around the world
can easily feel insurmountable,
921
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,800
but Karen's work reminds me that
922
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,666
real, scalable,
and lasting change
923
00:41:59,666 --> 00:42:03,066
is going to
start in our own communities.
924
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,733
Wallach:
What can it look like,
925
00:42:06,733 --> 00:42:09,400
from where we are right now
to where we want to be?
926
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,233
Tell me, Where
do we want to be?
927
00:42:11,233 --> 00:42:13,066
Karen Washington: I think
where we want to be is
928
00:42:13,066 --> 00:42:16,066
that everybody,
everybody--
929
00:42:16,066 --> 00:42:17,733
and not only here
in the United States
930
00:42:17,733 --> 00:42:19,266
but globally--
931
00:42:19,266 --> 00:42:21,100
but everybody
has to understand
932
00:42:21,100 --> 00:42:24,400
that food, clean water,
933
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,233
and shelter
are human rights.
934
00:42:28,233 --> 00:42:30,066
And we're not
there yet.
935
00:42:30,066 --> 00:42:32,400
Wallach, voice-over:
To create a future
936
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,233
where all people have access to
good, nutritious food
937
00:42:35,233 --> 00:42:37,566
isn't just going to happen.
938
00:42:37,566 --> 00:42:40,100
Better futures are not
easy or inevitable.
939
00:42:40,100 --> 00:42:42,400
But together,
we can look around
940
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,566
at the systems
across our societies
941
00:42:44,566 --> 00:42:47,100
and decide they are not
sufficient for the world
942
00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:48,766
we're building.
943
00:42:48,766 --> 00:42:52,733
That's the story of all progress
throughout our history--
944
00:42:52,733 --> 00:42:56,233
people coming together to
decide the injustices of today
945
00:42:56,233 --> 00:42:58,433
have no place
in our tomorrows.
946
00:43:00,300 --> 00:43:04,166
Jost: I think of history as
essentially two steps forward,
947
00:43:04,166 --> 00:43:05,633
one step back.
948
00:43:05,633 --> 00:43:07,466
Resistance to change is
949
00:43:07,466 --> 00:43:10,166
part of what it means to be
human, for better and worse.
950
00:43:10,166 --> 00:43:12,633
We grow up in a world,
951
00:43:12,633 --> 00:43:16,166
and we're socialized to see
the way things are
952
00:43:16,166 --> 00:43:18,300
as essentially
the way things should be.
953
00:43:18,300 --> 00:43:21,666
And most of the adults in
our lives are telling us this.
954
00:43:21,666 --> 00:43:24,800
Literally, our teachers,
our parents, and so on
955
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,666
are all doing things
that make us experience
956
00:43:27,666 --> 00:43:31,166
the reality that we're
growing into as natural,
957
00:43:31,166 --> 00:43:32,633
perhaps even inevitable.
958
00:43:32,633 --> 00:43:35,633
We want to feel good
about the social, economic,
959
00:43:35,633 --> 00:43:38,166
political institutions
and arrangements
960
00:43:38,166 --> 00:43:41,466
on which we all depend for
our livelihoods, for our lives.
961
00:43:41,466 --> 00:43:45,300
And it's painful to
believe that you're living in
962
00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:49,633
and operating in
an unjust social system.
963
00:43:49,633 --> 00:43:52,300
Bregman: Every single milestone
of civilization
964
00:43:52,300 --> 00:43:54,333
that we are used to right now,
965
00:43:54,333 --> 00:43:57,466
whether it's democracy
or the welfare state
966
00:43:57,466 --> 00:44:00,200
or equal rights
for men and women,
967
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,066
all these milestones
were fantasies once.
968
00:44:03,066 --> 00:44:07,833
It's ideas that really govern
and determine
969
00:44:07,833 --> 00:44:10,200
our trajectory as a species.
970
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,533
And that idea in itself,
that progress is possible,
971
00:44:13,533 --> 00:44:16,833
is probably one of the most
powerful ideas we've ever had.
972
00:44:16,833 --> 00:44:20,033
[vehicle horns honking]
973
00:44:25,733 --> 00:44:29,366
Wallach: Being here, you see,
on the one hand,
974
00:44:29,366 --> 00:44:32,533
just kind of cutting-edge
infrastructure--
975
00:44:32,533 --> 00:44:36,533
high-speed rail--just things
that are just so amazing.
976
00:44:39,066 --> 00:44:40,700
And on the other hand,
you see folks
977
00:44:40,700 --> 00:44:43,833
who are carrying
drinking water on their heads
978
00:44:43,833 --> 00:44:45,533
back to their homes.
979
00:44:45,533 --> 00:44:47,066
They don't have indoor plumbing.
980
00:44:47,066 --> 00:44:49,066
And so when I think about,
What does it mean
981
00:44:49,066 --> 00:44:51,533
to live sustainably
and regeneratively,
982
00:44:51,533 --> 00:44:55,200
it can't just be
for the richest countries.
983
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,700
We won't have the futures
we want for everyone
984
00:44:59,500 --> 00:45:03,266
until we can run basic
electrical lines into homes
985
00:45:03,266 --> 00:45:05,000
and allow for indoor plumbing.
986
00:45:05,433 --> 00:45:07,133
The project of moving forward
987
00:45:07,133 --> 00:45:10,600
to a more kind of sustainable
way of living on Planet Earth
988
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,266
is going to require
electrification of everything
989
00:45:14,266 --> 00:45:16,133
for everyone.
990
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:24,133
โช
991
00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:28,066
I'm here to visit a community
that made news around the world
992
00:45:28,066 --> 00:45:30,466
by becoming the first village
in India
993
00:45:30,466 --> 00:45:33,600
to become completely powered
by solar energy.
994
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:35,266
Wallach: Thank you
for inviting me
995
00:45:35,266 --> 00:45:36,766
to your village today.
996
00:45:36,766 --> 00:45:38,766
So I thought we would
start by you letting me know,
997
00:45:38,766 --> 00:45:41,166
like, who you are
and what your role here
998
00:45:41,166 --> 00:45:42,466
is in the village.
999
00:45:42,466 --> 00:45:49,633
[speaking Hindi]
1000
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,100
What is the kind of historical
and spiritual significance
1001
00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:57,700
of the sun here in India?
1002
00:45:59,100 --> 00:46:13,266
[speaking Hindi]
1003
00:46:15,666 --> 00:46:17,166
Wallach, voice-over:
Safir explained to me
1004
00:46:17,166 --> 00:46:18,833
how this new form of energy is
1005
00:46:18,833 --> 00:46:20,833
especially meaningful,
here in a place
1006
00:46:20,833 --> 00:46:23,666
with such a long,
rich history with the sun.
1007
00:46:24,133 --> 00:46:25,800
Wallach:
So what were the challenges
1008
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,500
that you were facing
as a village that led you
1009
00:46:29,500 --> 00:46:32,200
to have to and want to take
on a project like this?
1010
00:46:32,500 --> 00:46:42,333
[Safirmiya Sumarmiya Sindhi
speaking Hindi]
1011
00:46:44,333 --> 00:46:45,833
Wallach:
How many panels are there
1012
00:46:45,833 --> 00:46:47,666
here in this entire village?
1013
00:46:48,500 --> 00:47:03,600
[Sindhi speaking Hindi]
1014
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,266
Wallach: How does it feel
to see children playing
1015
00:47:10,266 --> 00:47:14,233
in a community that isn't
using dirty energy sources,
1016
00:47:14,233 --> 00:47:17,100
that's using the sun
to power, you know,
1017
00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:19,566
their homes and their schools
and their way of life?
1018
00:47:19,566 --> 00:47:21,066
What does that feel like?
1019
00:47:21,566 --> 00:47:45,066
[speaking Hindi]
1020
00:47:48,566 --> 00:47:52,566
Wallach: When you think
about the future of India
1021
00:47:52,566 --> 00:47:54,233
potentially moving
to all solar,
1022
00:47:54,233 --> 00:47:56,566
how do you feel being such
a kind of pioneer village
1023
00:47:56,566 --> 00:47:58,400
for the entire country?
1024
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:07,466
[speaking Hindi]
1025
00:48:10,166 --> 00:48:13,133
Wallach, voice-over: Seeing
countries take very small steps,
1026
00:48:13,133 --> 00:48:15,466
like you see in
a very small village,
1027
00:48:15,466 --> 00:48:17,133
saying, "You know what?
1028
00:48:17,133 --> 00:48:18,666
"Here's how we're gonna
contribute to the solution.
1029
00:48:18,666 --> 00:48:20,166
"We're not gonna
wait for something
1030
00:48:20,166 --> 00:48:21,800
"to come from Brussels
or from Washington,
1031
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,633
"even, necessarily,
just from Delhi.
1032
00:48:23,633 --> 00:48:25,800
We're gonna do
it here locally."
1033
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:29,300
And, you know, they say
all politics are local.
1034
00:48:29,300 --> 00:48:32,133
All energy is local.
All everything is local.
1035
00:48:32,133 --> 00:48:34,133
Even a sense
of community, right?
1036
00:48:34,133 --> 00:48:38,166
We talk about the need for
there to be more community.
1037
00:48:38,166 --> 00:48:39,666
And it's sometimes
talked about
1038
00:48:39,666 --> 00:48:42,133
almost at a national
or a nation-state level.
1039
00:48:42,133 --> 00:48:45,133
But you come to a village like
this, and I walk the town.
1040
00:48:45,133 --> 00:48:46,633
And that's community.
1041
00:48:46,633 --> 00:48:48,133
That's how futures are made,
1042
00:48:48,133 --> 00:48:50,133
really, at this
much more ground level,
1043
00:48:50,133 --> 00:48:52,633
be it about how you're gonna
make your electricity
1044
00:48:52,633 --> 00:48:54,133
and how
you're gonna power your homes
1045
00:48:54,133 --> 00:48:55,633
or how you're just
gonna act as a community
1046
00:48:55,633 --> 00:48:57,300
towards one another.
1047
00:48:57,300 --> 00:49:00,166
And it's beautiful to see that
happening in a place
1048
00:49:00,166 --> 00:49:02,533
that, to be honest,
has been getting,
1049
00:49:02,533 --> 00:49:06,100
really, just the exhaust
from all these other countries
1050
00:49:06,100 --> 00:49:08,066
who have been contributing
to the problem.
1051
00:49:08,066 --> 00:49:10,733
They're actually showing us
another way forward.
1052
00:49:14,700 --> 00:49:18,733
Program host: What must we do as
active and informed citizens?
1053
00:49:19,633 --> 00:49:22,100
We must decide now,
1054
00:49:22,500 --> 00:49:24,733
for how well we live tomorrow
1055
00:49:25,033 --> 00:49:28,366
will depend
on the action we take today.
1056
00:49:30,366 --> 00:49:34,133
Jost: I do want people 50 years,
100 years, 200 years from now
1057
00:49:34,133 --> 00:49:36,533
to know that people were really
trying hard
1058
00:49:36,533 --> 00:49:39,700
to leave the world
in a better place for them.
1059
00:49:39,700 --> 00:49:42,066
And I don't know
whether it will succeed,
1060
00:49:42,066 --> 00:49:43,833
but we have to try.
1061
00:49:43,833 --> 00:49:47,066
Washington: In order for us
to look at the future,
1062
00:49:47,066 --> 00:49:48,700
you got to understand
the past.
1063
00:49:48,700 --> 00:49:50,833
I have real hope that
these young people
1064
00:49:50,833 --> 00:49:53,833
are looking for
a more just system.
1065
00:49:53,833 --> 00:49:55,700
Pete Buttigieg:
If we're not tapping
1066
00:49:55,700 --> 00:49:57,366
into shared humanity,
1067
00:49:57,366 --> 00:50:00,066
then we're not gonna be
finding the best answers.
1068
00:50:00,066 --> 00:50:01,700
The best answers
are the ones
1069
00:50:01,700 --> 00:50:03,700
that allow everybody
to prosper
1070
00:50:03,700 --> 00:50:06,366
and to succeed
and to belong.
1071
00:50:06,366 --> 00:50:08,366
Ikenaga: We all have
to have a common goal.
1072
00:50:08,366 --> 00:50:12,833
We all have to know what
the other person wants.
1073
00:50:12,833 --> 00:50:14,700
It's a collective
experience.
1074
00:50:14,700 --> 00:50:17,066
It's a state of mind.
1075
00:50:17,066 --> 00:50:20,200
Bailey: How can we take what
we see as some of the worst
1076
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,700
of humanity's propensity
towards violence,
1077
00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:26,700
isolation, and exclusion
1078
00:50:26,700 --> 00:50:29,833
and transform that
into an opportunity
1079
00:50:29,833 --> 00:50:32,733
but also cast
a new way forward?
1080
00:50:32,733 --> 00:50:36,200
This distrust is hurting us
as a society.
1081
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:40,366
Humans have evolved
to connect with one another.
1082
00:50:40,366 --> 00:50:43,066
We need to connect.
We need our friends.
1083
00:50:43,066 --> 00:50:45,200
We need our family members.
We need our coworkers.
1084
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,366
We need the strangers
in the streets, right?
1085
00:50:47,366 --> 00:50:52,066
But if society keeps telling us
that we can't trust them,
1086
00:50:52,066 --> 00:50:53,366
that they're dangerous,
1087
00:50:53,366 --> 00:50:55,533
that we should be
wary of one another,
1088
00:50:55,533 --> 00:50:58,200
then that's tearing us apart.
1089
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,433
De Blok: We are not
supposed to be alone.
1090
00:51:00,433 --> 00:51:02,133
You have to be connected,
1091
00:51:02,133 --> 00:51:04,266
and happiness
comes from connection.
1092
00:51:04,266 --> 00:51:08,100
People don't realize
that enough, I think.
1093
00:51:08,100 --> 00:51:14,633
โช
1094
00:51:14,633 --> 00:51:18,100
Wallach: I thought people would
want to talk about the future
1095
00:51:18,100 --> 00:51:21,100
through a kind of
almost individualized lens,
1096
00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:23,100
they would want to talk about
1097
00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:25,100
the careers
that they're gonna have
1098
00:51:25,100 --> 00:51:27,266
or they're worried
about artificial intelligence
1099
00:51:27,266 --> 00:51:30,600
is gonna come for their job
or for their children's job.
1100
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:32,600
But what I keep hearing is
1101
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,100
a desire
and a hope for community.
1102
00:51:36,100 --> 00:51:39,166
Everyone I'm speaking to,
when I ask them,
1103
00:51:39,166 --> 00:51:42,133
"What do you want the future
to look like,"
1104
00:51:42,133 --> 00:51:45,100
inevitably, the idea or
just the term of community
1105
00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:47,433
comes up--this idea
of human connection.
1106
00:51:47,433 --> 00:51:51,133
And sometimes it's more
deeply with their friends,
1107
00:51:51,133 --> 00:51:53,600
and sometimes it's more deeply
as a town or a village
1108
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,100
or as a state
1109
00:51:55,100 --> 00:51:59,133
or, really,
just as a kind of human family,
1110
00:51:59,133 --> 00:52:01,533
you know, as almost something
post-nation-state,
1111
00:52:01,533 --> 00:52:03,333
something bigger.
1112
00:52:03,333 --> 00:52:08,833
And that's both been surprising
and unbelievably delightful.
1113
00:52:08,833 --> 00:52:11,800
As we move forward,
as we kind of rethink
1114
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:14,833
these baseline assumptions
about how we order the world,
1115
00:52:14,833 --> 00:52:16,333
there can no longer be
1116
00:52:16,333 --> 00:52:19,333
an "I win, you lose" mind-set
or mentality.
1117
00:52:19,333 --> 00:52:22,800
No one flourishes
until everyone flourishes.
1118
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,066
As we move forward, we
have an amazing opportunity
1119
00:52:26,066 --> 00:52:29,000
to do that for ourselves
and for our species.
1120
00:52:30,300 --> 00:52:55,933
โช
1121
00:52:55,933 --> 00:52:59,466
[laughter, excited chatter]
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