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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:04,233 --> 00:00:06,366 [calm music] 2 00:00:06,366 --> 00:00:24,566 ♪ 3 00:00:24,566 --> 00:00:28,866 Man: We're in the Ancient Bristlecone Pine Forest, 4 00:00:28,866 --> 00:00:32,033 just over 11,000 feet, home to some of the oldest 5 00:00:32,033 --> 00:00:36,033 trees on planet Earth. 6 00:00:36,033 --> 00:00:41,033 The trees in this forest that are surrounding me right now 7 00:00:41,033 --> 00:00:45,533 are older than the pyramids in Egypt. 8 00:00:45,533 --> 00:00:51,200 They were alive when Jesus Christ was born. 9 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,033 Some of these trees were already 4,000 years old 10 00:00:55,033 --> 00:00:57,766 when the United States was born. 11 00:00:59,033 --> 00:01:03,266 They go back further than almost all recorded history. 12 00:01:03,266 --> 00:01:06,033 ♪ 13 00:01:06,033 --> 00:01:08,633 When you're at a place like this, 14 00:01:08,633 --> 00:01:10,600 it changes your perspective 15 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,700 because these trees are truly the great 16 00:01:14,700 --> 00:01:20,266 ancestors of life on Earth. 17 00:01:20,266 --> 00:01:22,933 They have been here for so long 18 00:01:22,933 --> 00:01:28,200 and will more than likely be here long after I'm gone. 19 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,933 And it's very rare to be in a place 20 00:01:30,933 --> 00:01:33,966 where you have that sense of time. 21 00:01:33,966 --> 00:01:38,466 It changes your perspective on not only where we are 22 00:01:38,466 --> 00:01:42,033 and what we've done as a species on this planet, 23 00:01:42,033 --> 00:01:44,800 but where we might be able to go. 24 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,500 Woman: Set one Ari, take one. 25 00:01:46,500 --> 00:01:50,433 Man: Name and describe yourself. What are you? Who are you? 26 00:01:50,433 --> 00:01:53,266 Ha ha! My name is Ari Wallach. 27 00:01:53,266 --> 00:01:57,833 I am a father, a husband, and during the day, 28 00:01:57,833 --> 00:02:00,200 when I'm not doing those two probably most important 29 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,933 things, I am a futurist. 30 00:02:01,933 --> 00:02:05,000 [Grimes' "Oblivion" playing] 31 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:14,333 ♪ 32 00:02:14,333 --> 00:02:17,666 Grimes: ♪ Ah ♪ 33 00:02:17,666 --> 00:02:20,100 ♪ 34 00:02:20,100 --> 00:02:23,500 ♪ Ah ♪ 35 00:02:23,500 --> 00:02:25,600 ♪ 36 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,233 ♪ Ah ♪ 37 00:02:27,233 --> 00:02:31,200 ♪ I never walk about after dark ♪ 38 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:32,900 ♪ It's my point of view ♪ 39 00:02:32,900 --> 00:02:35,500 ♪ 'Cause someone could break your neck ♪ 40 00:02:35,500 --> 00:02:37,333 ♪ Coming up behind you ♪ 41 00:02:37,333 --> 00:02:39,400 ♪ Always coming, 42 00:02:37,333 --> 00:02:39,400 an  \h d you'd never have a clue ♪ 43 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:43,166 ♪ I never look behind all the time ♪ 44 00:02:43,166 --> 00:02:45,066 ♪ I will wait forever ♪ 45 00:02:45,066 --> 00:02:47,900 ♪ Always looking straight ♪ 46 00:02:47,900 --> 00:02:51,666 ♪ Thinking, counting all the hours you wait ♪ 47 00:03:00,566 --> 00:03:02,466 Wallach: Growing up, I remember feeling 48 00:03:02,466 --> 00:03:05,400 so excited about the future, 49 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,733 impatient, actually because I couldn't 50 00:03:07,733 --> 00:03:08,900 wait for it to arrive. 51 00:03:08,900 --> 00:03:11,233 [dramatic music] 52 00:03:11,233 --> 00:03:13,566 Beam me aboard. 53 00:03:13,566 --> 00:03:16,266 ["The Jetsons" theme song] 54 00:03:16,266 --> 00:03:18,233 Wallach: I watched movies and TV shows 55 00:03:18,233 --> 00:03:19,900 that told stories of what felt like 56 00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:22,733 inevitable human progress, 57 00:03:22,733 --> 00:03:25,066 filling me with a sense of hope and possibility. 58 00:03:25,066 --> 00:03:26,933 [engines roaring] 59 00:03:26,933 --> 00:03:28,466 And it wasn't just on TV. 60 00:03:28,466 --> 00:03:31,266 We were launching rockets. 61 00:03:31,266 --> 00:03:32,800 Markets were booming. 62 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,800 And the Internet was coming online. 63 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,800 Bill Clinton: Hope is back in America. 64 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,266 We are on the right track to the 21st century. 65 00:03:42,266 --> 00:03:44,233 Dick Clark: 3, 2, 1. 66 00:03:44,233 --> 00:03:47,400 Happy 2000! 67 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:49,066 William McRaven: The next generation 68 00:03:49,066 --> 00:03:50,900 and the generations that follow will live in a world 69 00:03:50,900 --> 00:03:53,400 far better than the one we have today. 70 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:55,233 Wallach: I went to work as a futurist, 71 00:03:55,233 --> 00:03:56,800 helping governments and major companies 72 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,966 around the world better think about and plan 73 00:03:58,966 --> 00:04:01,300 for the future, 74 00:04:01,300 --> 00:04:04,133 not working to predict the future, 75 00:04:04,133 --> 00:04:05,966 but looking at long-term trends 76 00:04:05,966 --> 00:04:09,366 and the impacts they were 77 00:04:05,966 --> 00:04:09,366 go  \h ing to have across society. 78 00:04:09,366 --> 00:04:11,500 It was an exciting time. 79 00:04:11,500 --> 00:04:13,400 And it really did feel like we were on the brink 80 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,466 of something extraordinary. 81 00:04:16,466 --> 00:04:18,366 New technology was poised to bring about 82 00:04:18,366 --> 00:04:21,466 unprecedented prosperity and connection. 83 00:04:21,466 --> 00:04:25,700 Less poverty, more peace, and shorter work weeks 84 00:04:25,700 --> 00:04:28,166 were all right around the corner. 85 00:04:30,033 --> 00:04:33,300 But then something happened, or didn't happen. 86 00:04:33,300 --> 00:04:37,233 And that future never really showed up. 87 00:04:37,233 --> 00:04:40,466 We are now working more, not less. 88 00:04:40,466 --> 00:04:43,066 We have become more technologically connected 89 00:04:43,066 --> 00:04:45,566 and yet more deeply divided. 90 00:04:45,566 --> 00:04:47,800 The consequences of long-overlooked 91 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:52,300 environmental destruction are showing up in terrifying ways. 92 00:04:52,300 --> 00:04:53,966 And the stories we tell ourselves 93 00:04:53,966 --> 00:04:56,533 about tomorrow are now stories of dystopia 94 00:04:56,533 --> 00:05:00,433 where everything falls apart. 95 00:05:00,433 --> 00:05:02,266 Our feelings about tomorrow have shifted 96 00:05:02,266 --> 00:05:04,766 from excitement to dread. 97 00:05:04,766 --> 00:05:06,400 And the future has become something 98 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,466 to avoid rather than to build. 99 00:05:09,466 --> 00:05:12,366 But over the years, my work has convinced me 100 00:05:12,366 --> 00:05:15,533 the future is not set in stone. 101 00:05:15,533 --> 00:05:17,200 We have the power to shape it. 102 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,266 That's what's led me here to making this show. 103 00:05:20,266 --> 00:05:23,533 I'm looking for the people 104 00:05:20,266 --> 00:05:23,533 wh  \h o are building better futures 105 00:05:23,533 --> 00:05:26,700 for themselves, for their kids, 106 00:05:26,700 --> 00:05:29,600 and for the world around them. 107 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,400 Because the truth is, we have choices to make right now. 108 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:34,933 And these choices are going to have 109 00:05:34,933 --> 00:05:38,733 major, long-lasting effects. 110 00:05:38,733 --> 00:05:41,366 So I'm headed out on a journey to meet the brilliant minds 111 00:05:41,366 --> 00:05:43,900 and brave pioneers changing our world 112 00:05:43,900 --> 00:05:46,866 and reinventing tomorrow, 113 00:05:46,866 --> 00:05:49,533 people who believe that we have everything we need 114 00:05:49,533 --> 00:05:51,366 to create better futures-- 115 00:05:51,366 --> 00:05:53,700 not perfect, but better-- 116 00:05:53,700 --> 00:05:56,866 and something each generation can build on, 117 00:05:56,866 --> 00:05:59,366 those challenging the status quo, 118 00:05:59,366 --> 00:06:01,933 expanding our ideas of what's at stake 119 00:06:01,933 --> 00:06:06,100 and what's still possible, from food to education, 120 00:06:06,100 --> 00:06:07,766 from the cities we live in 121 00:06:07,766 --> 00:06:11,000 to the ways in which we organize our societies, 122 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,966 people using new tools and ancient wisdom 123 00:06:13,966 --> 00:06:16,666 to restore our relationship with each other, 124 00:06:16,666 --> 00:06:21,166 to ourselves, and to this 125 00:06:16,666 --> 00:06:21,166 be  \h autiful place we call home, 126 00:06:21,166 --> 00:06:24,933 a journey to rediscover how far we've come, 127 00:06:24,933 --> 00:06:27,833 and where we could take this whole thing moving forward. 128 00:06:30,633 --> 00:06:33,366 What I'm really 129 00:06:30,633 --> 00:06:33,366 mo  \h st interested in doing here 130 00:06:33,366 --> 00:06:36,266 is trying to find the people 131 00:06:36,266 --> 00:06:38,933 and the ideas that are going to kind of 132 00:06:38,933 --> 00:06:43,033 show us what futures could be and from there 133 00:06:43,033 --> 00:06:46,500 figure out which ones we want. 134 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,466 Man: So this is great. 135 00:06:52,466 --> 00:06:54,266 So let's talk a little bit about the science 136 00:06:54,266 --> 00:06:55,266 of motivation. 137 00:06:55,266 --> 00:06:57,033 What do we think-- 138 00:06:57,033 --> 00:06:59,000 Wallach: As my journey begins, I'm interested in why, 139 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,200 even with all these tools and technologies 140 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,366 available, so many of us find it difficult to think 141 00:07:04,366 --> 00:07:06,066 about the future. 142 00:07:06,066 --> 00:07:08,333 That's brought me here to sit down 143 00:07:08,333 --> 00:07:11,333 with a behavioral psychologist named Hal Hershfield. 144 00:07:11,333 --> 00:07:15,166 Hershfield: Our future selves often feel like strangers to us. 145 00:07:15,166 --> 00:07:18,833 They feel like sort of different people altogether. 146 00:07:18,833 --> 00:07:21,566 One of the big findings in the early days 147 00:07:21,566 --> 00:07:23,166 of what's called "social neuroscience" 148 00:07:23,166 --> 00:07:24,700 is that the brain can tell 149 00:07:24,700 --> 00:07:26,666 what's me and what's not me, 150 00:07:26,666 --> 00:07:29,166 which makes sense in a way. 151 00:07:29,166 --> 00:07:31,833 If I'm sitting in a scanner, and I think about myself, 152 00:07:31,833 --> 00:07:33,166 I see more activity in what's called 153 00:07:33,166 --> 00:07:34,733 my medial prefrontal cortex 154 00:07:34,733 --> 00:07:36,833 and certain parts of the brain there 155 00:07:36,833 --> 00:07:39,000 than if I, say, think about you. 156 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,333 Hershfield: I was more interested because I thought 157 00:07:42,333 --> 00:07:45,500 that that finding held the clue 158 00:07:45,500 --> 00:07:47,100 for maybe why we start thinking 159 00:07:47,100 --> 00:07:50,166 about our future selves as different, other people. 160 00:07:50,166 --> 00:07:54,033 In other words, if I can distinguish between me 161 00:07:54,033 --> 00:07:56,833 and you in my brain, would I see 162 00:07:56,833 --> 00:07:59,833 a same sort of disconnect between me 163 00:07:59,833 --> 00:08:02,566 and my future self in my brain? 164 00:08:02,566 --> 00:08:04,000 So here's what we did. 165 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,566 We had our research participants 166 00:08:05,566 --> 00:08:07,066 go into the scanner. 167 00:08:07,066 --> 00:08:08,800 They see a little screen in front of them. 168 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:10,466 It's a really boring, basic screen. 169 00:08:10,466 --> 00:08:11,933 And they see a word at the top. 170 00:08:11,933 --> 00:08:13,300 And the word represents a person 171 00:08:13,300 --> 00:08:14,400 they need to think about. 172 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:16,233 So they say, "OK. 173 00:08:16,233 --> 00:08:18,300 Think about current self or think about your future self." 174 00:08:18,300 --> 00:08:22,633 And what we saw was that the brain activity from thinking 175 00:08:22,633 --> 00:08:25,633 about your future self was more similar 176 00:08:25,633 --> 00:08:27,400 to the brain activity when people thought 177 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,566 about another person. 178 00:08:29,566 --> 00:08:31,233 Wallach: What are the implications of that? 179 00:08:31,233 --> 00:08:33,900 It suggests that on some deeper level, 180 00:08:33,900 --> 00:08:36,433 we really do think about our future selves 181 00:08:36,433 --> 00:08:38,400 as if they are other people. 182 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:40,333 When you take that perspective, 183 00:08:40,333 --> 00:08:43,066 if our future self is some other person, 184 00:08:43,066 --> 00:08:46,466 then the consequences of my decisions right now 185 00:08:46,466 --> 00:08:50,466 are going to befall some other person. 186 00:08:50,466 --> 00:08:52,233 All right. 187 00:08:52,233 --> 00:08:53,233 So why don't you look at me? 188 00:08:53,233 --> 00:08:55,300 All right. That's good. 189 00:08:55,300 --> 00:08:57,566 All right. Now keep that face. 190 00:08:57,566 --> 00:09:00,500 All right. And let's try this one more time. 191 00:09:00,500 --> 00:09:01,866 We're going to do something funny here. 192 00:09:01,866 --> 00:09:05,866 All right. So let's pull these up here. 193 00:09:05,866 --> 00:09:08,166 And then here's the... Oh! 194 00:09:08,166 --> 00:09:10,700 older ver-- Wow. All right. 195 00:09:10,700 --> 00:09:13,700 So what do you think when you see that? 196 00:09:13,700 --> 00:09:15,466 I mean, I'm sure people have 197 00:09:15,466 --> 00:09:16,966 a somewhat similar reaction. 198 00:09:16,966 --> 00:09:20,800 That looks shockingly like my dad. 199 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,266 Yeah. 200 00:09:22,266 --> 00:09:24,333 It seems like I don't totally know who that is. 201 00:09:24,333 --> 00:09:25,866 Right. Right. Right. 202 00:09:25,866 --> 00:09:27,300 But it also doesn't seem that far from now. 203 00:09:27,300 --> 00:09:28,700 Right. 204 00:09:28,700 --> 00:09:31,700 Which is, in a way, true to form, right? 205 00:09:31,700 --> 00:09:33,166 Like, when we think about our future selves, 206 00:09:33,166 --> 00:09:34,966 you know, they may not be that far from now. 207 00:09:34,966 --> 00:09:37,800 We don't totally know who they are, but-- 208 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,133 When I first see that, like, it's jarring. 209 00:09:39,133 --> 00:09:40,866 And then now you think, "OK." 210 00:09:40,866 --> 00:09:42,833 Once you get over the initial kind of shock 211 00:09:42,833 --> 00:09:45,966 of where things could go, you think, like, "OK. 212 00:09:45,966 --> 00:09:49,633 "Well, like, if these are still the same individual, 213 00:09:49,633 --> 00:09:52,800 "like, how does this one now, 214 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:55,300 "like, befriend and best-friend this one. 215 00:09:55,300 --> 00:09:57,066 And what would you do for a best friend?" 216 00:09:57,066 --> 00:09:58,300 I think that's, like, 217 00:09:58,300 --> 00:10:00,200 the exact right perspective there. 218 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,466 Because they're not the same. 219 00:10:01,466 --> 00:10:02,800 Yeah. 220 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,333 But it is that same sort of relationship 221 00:10:04,333 --> 00:10:05,800 of a best friend. 222 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,300 In some ways, the work that you're doing, 223 00:10:07,300 --> 00:10:08,966 it's like a wormhole, right? 224 00:10:08,966 --> 00:10:11,566 It's like the "Star Trek" wormhole to the future 225 00:10:11,566 --> 00:10:13,133 and lets us kind of see ahead. 226 00:10:13,133 --> 00:10:14,966 But, like you said, it's not just about vision. 227 00:10:14,966 --> 00:10:16,633 It's actually about the emotions 228 00:10:16,633 --> 00:10:17,866 that pull us through. 229 00:10:17,866 --> 00:10:19,833 And I think this is a key insight here. 230 00:10:19,833 --> 00:10:22,066 This is really a conversation about empathy. 231 00:10:22,066 --> 00:10:24,200 This is a vision that's really hard to conjure up. 232 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:25,866 I can't picture my grandkids. 233 00:10:25,866 --> 00:10:27,666 I can barely picture my own kids 234 00:10:27,666 --> 00:10:29,266 when they're older because I'm so stuck 235 00:10:29,266 --> 00:10:31,533 on what they look like right now. 236 00:10:31,533 --> 00:10:33,200 But I have a really easy time 237 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,466 knowing how I want them to feel 238 00:10:35,466 --> 00:10:37,400 and knowing how I want their kids to feel 239 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,300 and on and on and on. 240 00:10:39,300 --> 00:10:40,533 And so, like you said, 241 00:10:40,533 --> 00:10:41,966 that's the empathy through line. 242 00:10:41,966 --> 00:10:43,633 That's the sort of empathy freeway 243 00:10:43,633 --> 00:10:46,300 that we want to consider. 244 00:10:46,300 --> 00:10:48,966 Wallach: It's powerful to consider how we want 245 00:10:48,966 --> 00:10:51,466 life to be for the generations yet to be born. 246 00:10:51,466 --> 00:10:56,200 And it forces us to think beyond our own lifetime. 247 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,933 Man: Today, we live in a world in which 248 00:10:58,933 --> 00:11:02,033 we're ill-adapted to inhabit. 249 00:11:02,033 --> 00:11:04,366 That wasn't the world, the space 250 00:11:04,366 --> 00:11:06,800 and time, the environment that we evolved in. 251 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,200 So a natural consequence of that 252 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,200 is some of our cognitive abilities 253 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,166 aren't necessarily tuned for the world that we've 254 00:11:15,166 --> 00:11:18,433 miraculously managed to construct, 255 00:11:18,433 --> 00:11:22,033 a world in which we have a vast amount of information 256 00:11:22,033 --> 00:11:26,700 and an amazing ability to address future problems, 257 00:11:26,700 --> 00:11:28,266 to invest in the future. 258 00:11:28,266 --> 00:11:31,900 And that ability is something that perhaps 259 00:11:31,900 --> 00:11:35,933 we don't use to the extent that we would like. 260 00:11:35,933 --> 00:11:38,366 Woman: I like to think of the future as a story. 261 00:11:38,366 --> 00:11:41,233 It's really a set of ideas that we all engage in. 262 00:11:41,233 --> 00:11:44,033 And so in some sense, 263 00:11:41,233 --> 00:11:44,033 th  \h e future is very malleable. 264 00:11:44,033 --> 00:11:46,066 And in other ways, it kind of doesn't exist. 265 00:11:46,066 --> 00:11:49,533 And so it's open terrain for lots of new ideas 266 00:11:49,533 --> 00:11:52,100 and new ways of being in the world. 267 00:11:53,900 --> 00:11:57,300 Wallach: So when most people ask me what's my story, 268 00:11:57,300 --> 00:11:59,766 I actually start back in 1922. 269 00:11:59,766 --> 00:12:01,800 Woman: This is the Holocaust Oral History Project 270 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,466 interview of Rachmiel Wolochwianski, 271 00:12:04,466 --> 00:12:07,600 April 28, 1993. 272 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:12,266 Wolochwianski: I am born in the city Baranowicze, East Poland. 273 00:12:12,266 --> 00:12:15,133 Wallach: 1922 was the year my father was born 274 00:12:15,133 --> 00:12:17,933 in a small town called Baranowicze in Poland. 275 00:12:17,933 --> 00:12:20,533 Around the time of his 18th birthday 276 00:12:20,533 --> 00:12:23,266 was when the Nazis invaded Poland. 277 00:12:23,266 --> 00:12:25,533 Narrator: These were the only pictures made in the city 278 00:12:25,533 --> 00:12:27,266 during the siege. 279 00:12:27,266 --> 00:12:29,900 Many of the middle-aged were sullen and angry. 280 00:12:29,900 --> 00:12:33,833 Youngsters were half-resentful, half-resigned, 281 00:12:33,833 --> 00:12:37,133 while their elders turned to prayer. 282 00:12:37,133 --> 00:12:40,766 Wallach: All the Jews were pushed into a small ghetto. 283 00:12:40,766 --> 00:12:44,733 Eventually, his mother and sister were sent to Auschwitz, 284 00:12:44,733 --> 00:12:46,266 and that's where they perished. 285 00:12:46,266 --> 00:12:48,633 Now, my father and his brother and dad 286 00:12:48,633 --> 00:12:50,266 were still in the ghetto. 287 00:12:50,266 --> 00:12:52,266 And at one point, they actually escaped. 288 00:12:52,266 --> 00:12:56,166 And in the kind of escape of leaving the ghetto, 289 00:12:56,166 --> 00:12:58,433 my grandfather 290 00:12:56,166 --> 00:12:58,433 wa  \h s actually shot and killed. 291 00:12:58,433 --> 00:13:02,233 And soon thereafter, my father joined the Jewish underground, 292 00:13:02,233 --> 00:13:04,333 the resistance, and for several years, 293 00:13:04,333 --> 00:13:06,866 basically he lived in the forests of Poland 294 00:13:06,866 --> 00:13:09,766 fighting the Nazis day in and day out. 295 00:13:09,766 --> 00:13:12,666 When I thought about what I want to do with my life 296 00:13:12,666 --> 00:13:15,833 I decided to choose a path that would allow me 297 00:13:15,833 --> 00:13:17,833 to kind of apply the way I think 298 00:13:17,833 --> 00:13:19,500 we should be morally operating 299 00:13:19,500 --> 00:13:22,666 as a species, 300 00:13:19,500 --> 00:13:22,666 no  \h t so much to just push back 301 00:13:22,666 --> 00:13:26,066 against the Nazis of today, 302 00:13:22,666 --> 00:13:26,066 wh  \h ich is unbelievably important, 303 00:13:26,066 --> 00:13:29,700 but in many ways to think about what was happening 304 00:13:29,700 --> 00:13:32,833 in the late 1920s and late 1930s 305 00:13:32,833 --> 00:13:35,500 before the Nazis came to power, thinking about how 306 00:13:35,500 --> 00:13:39,400 the world was in so much flux, and why weren't there people 307 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,200 around to help steer us towards a better path? 308 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,066 In many ways, that greatly influences the work that I do. 309 00:13:45,066 --> 00:13:46,833 I'm thinking about where can we take this 310 00:13:46,833 --> 00:13:49,100 in a positive way, right? 311 00:13:49,100 --> 00:13:51,233 I'm not a futurist who's saying, 312 00:13:51,233 --> 00:13:53,033 "Look out for these different icebergs on the Titanic." 313 00:13:53,033 --> 00:13:55,100 I'm saying there are icebergs out there. 314 00:13:55,100 --> 00:13:57,333 We should navigate through them. 315 00:13:57,333 --> 00:14:00,233 But what is the harbor that we're trying to get to? 316 00:14:00,233 --> 00:14:09,900 ♪ 317 00:14:09,900 --> 00:14:12,333 There's a phrase called "cathedral thinking." 318 00:14:12,333 --> 00:14:15,733 And what that means is, how do we go about 319 00:14:15,733 --> 00:14:18,600 making decisions in the same ways 320 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,333 that those who build ancient cathedrals thought? 321 00:14:21,333 --> 00:14:23,833 Because when they were building cathedrals, 322 00:14:23,833 --> 00:14:26,400 I mean, more often than not, the architect 323 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,466 and the initial builders of the cathedral 324 00:14:28,466 --> 00:14:32,900 wouldn't even be around 325 00:14:28,466 --> 00:14:32,900 to  \h see it actually completed. 326 00:14:32,900 --> 00:14:34,933 It wouldn't happen in their lifetime. 327 00:14:34,933 --> 00:14:37,800 So they had to make these decisions in a way 328 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:39,900 where they were literally laying the cornerstone 329 00:14:39,900 --> 00:14:43,066 for something that they would never actually see completed, 330 00:14:43,066 --> 00:14:46,466 but they were doing it for the next generation. 331 00:14:46,466 --> 00:14:49,100 I came to Cordoba to see firsthand 332 00:14:49,100 --> 00:14:51,733 a project that has been many, many generations 333 00:14:51,733 --> 00:14:54,066 in the making. 334 00:14:54,066 --> 00:14:56,266 [Speaking Spanish] 335 00:14:56,266 --> 00:14:59,800 [Speaking Spanish] 336 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:05,133 [Speaking Spanish] 337 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,133 [Speaking Spanish] 338 00:15:05,133 --> 00:15:08,466 [Speaking Spanish] 339 00:15:08,466 --> 00:15:12,133 [Speaking Spanish] 340 00:15:12,133 --> 00:15:17,000 [Speaking Spanish] 341 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,200 [Speaking Spanish] 342 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,966 [Speaking Spanish] 343 00:15:21,966 --> 00:15:26,300 [Speaking Spanish] 344 00:15:26,300 --> 00:15:28,966 [Speaking Spanish] 345 00:15:28,966 --> 00:15:32,133 [Speaking Spanish] 346 00:15:33,700 --> 00:15:36,133 Wallach: It's awe-inspiring to experience something 347 00:15:36,133 --> 00:15:39,133 that those who started never lived to see completed 348 00:15:39,133 --> 00:15:42,533 built as a gift to those yet to be born, 349 00:15:42,533 --> 00:15:45,200 a reminder that the future is being built 350 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,300 on our actions right now. 351 00:15:47,300 --> 00:15:51,300 The future is a verb. It's something we do. 352 00:15:51,300 --> 00:15:53,900 We can become great ancestors. 353 00:15:53,900 --> 00:15:55,800 And that is what the future needs us to do 354 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,800 right now, to think in a way 355 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,200 that places us in their shoes. 356 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:02,866 ♪ 357 00:16:02,866 --> 00:16:05,033 [Speaking Spanish] 358 00:16:05,033 --> 00:16:07,200 [Speaking Spanish] 359 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,200 [Speaking Spanish] 360 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,700 [Speaking Spanish] 361 00:16:11,700 --> 00:16:13,400 [Speaking Spanish] 362 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,533 [Speaking Spanish] 363 00:16:15,533 --> 00:16:18,200 [Speaking Spanish] 364 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,533 [Speaking Spanish] 365 00:16:20,533 --> 00:16:24,133 ♪ 366 00:16:24,133 --> 00:16:26,866 Wallach: This idea of stepping back to see ourselves 367 00:16:26,866 --> 00:16:29,366 and the work we do in this moment as a piece of something 368 00:16:29,366 --> 00:16:33,033 larger is so powerful, and it has the potential 369 00:16:33,033 --> 00:16:35,266 to unlock bigger, better ideas 370 00:16:35,266 --> 00:16:37,900 worth working towards in the years to come. 371 00:16:37,900 --> 00:16:40,200 ♪ 372 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,866 It's my first time in Morocco, and I've 373 00:16:42,866 --> 00:16:46,933 read about this massive solar power plant for a while now. 374 00:16:46,933 --> 00:16:48,366 And to be able to come and visit it 375 00:16:48,366 --> 00:16:50,366 is kind of like a dream come true. 376 00:16:50,366 --> 00:16:52,900 It's a little bit, you know, solar, alternative, 377 00:16:52,900 --> 00:16:54,300 renewable energy geek in me. 378 00:16:54,300 --> 00:16:56,200 But to see a plant kind of come up 379 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,233 in the middle of the desert using the latest 380 00:16:58,233 --> 00:17:02,033 technology that can power a huge part of the country 381 00:17:02,033 --> 00:17:04,433 is amazing for me. 382 00:17:05,966 --> 00:17:09,133 So tell me, where are we right now? 383 00:17:58,833 --> 00:18:00,666 Wallach: So in this area right here just alone, 384 00:18:00,666 --> 00:18:02,500 how many of these mirrors are there? 385 00:18:04,833 --> 00:18:05,866 Two million? Two million. 386 00:18:05,866 --> 00:18:07,566 2 million of these panels? 387 00:18:07,566 --> 00:18:09,166 Yeah, in NOOR I. 388 00:18:09,166 --> 00:18:10,833 Wallach: The complex here is the largest 389 00:18:10,833 --> 00:18:13,333 concentrated solar power plant in the world, 390 00:18:13,333 --> 00:18:14,833 generating enough power 391 00:18:14,833 --> 00:18:17,100 to supply a million homes in Morocco 392 00:18:17,100 --> 00:18:19,000 with renewable electricity. 393 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,766 And in a country that doesn't 394 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,766 ha  \h ve a natural supply of oil, 395 00:18:21,766 --> 00:18:25,200 natural gas, or coal, they believe this is the start 396 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,666 of something even bigger. 397 00:18:26,666 --> 00:18:29,666 Wallach: What is kind of your hope and your dream 398 00:18:29,666 --> 00:18:33,833 for Morocco in terms of the raw resources that are coming 399 00:18:33,833 --> 00:18:36,000 to your land from the sky? 400 00:18:48,500 --> 00:18:50,500 Wallach: What could an energy-independent future 401 00:18:50,500 --> 00:18:54,500 look like, not just here, but everywhere? 402 00:18:54,500 --> 00:18:57,666 What impact will it have on our politics, our health care, 403 00:18:57,666 --> 00:18:59,933 and the well-being of the natural world 404 00:18:59,933 --> 00:19:05,300 when we create a future independent from fossil fuels? 405 00:19:05,300 --> 00:19:07,933 Solar technology is just one piece of making 406 00:19:07,933 --> 00:19:09,900 that future a reality. 407 00:19:09,900 --> 00:19:12,466 But as large-scale facilities are popping up in countries 408 00:19:12,466 --> 00:19:15,566 all over the world, the goal of powering major cities 409 00:19:15,566 --> 00:19:18,800 and entire countries is getting closer every day. 410 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,266 ♪ 411 00:19:21,266 --> 00:19:23,300 In Northern California, scientists 412 00:19:23,300 --> 00:19:26,600 are taking a similar approach by applying long-term thinking 413 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,166 to the challenges facing us today, 414 00:19:29,166 --> 00:19:32,466 pursuing a long-held dream of limitless clean energy. 415 00:19:32,466 --> 00:19:34,433 Kritcher: I'm Annie Kritcher. 416 00:19:34,433 --> 00:19:37,266 I was a lead designer for the Ignition experiment. 417 00:19:37,266 --> 00:19:39,800 We are at the National Ignition Facility 418 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,400 in Livermore, California. 419 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,966 What we do here is, we take two atoms, 420 00:19:43,966 --> 00:19:47,133 and we smash them together, and we make a heavier atom. 421 00:19:47,133 --> 00:19:49,566 And that process releases energy. 422 00:19:49,566 --> 00:19:53,066 And so you're literally for 90 trillionths of a second 423 00:19:53,066 --> 00:19:54,566 creating a mini sun. 424 00:19:54,566 --> 00:19:56,133 That's correct. 425 00:19:56,133 --> 00:19:58,600 Kritcher: The reason that we 426 00:19:56,133 --> 00:19:58,600 ne  \h ed to generate stars on Earth 427 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,600 is to reach the extreme conditions 428 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,900 that are required to get two atoms to fuse together. 429 00:20:03,900 --> 00:20:06,633 So you need tens of millions of degrees to do that. 430 00:20:06,633 --> 00:20:10,100 We have 192 laser beams which enter 431 00:20:10,100 --> 00:20:12,566 the ends of a hollow cylinder. 432 00:20:12,566 --> 00:20:15,566 And then they hit the hollow cylinder on the inside. 433 00:20:15,566 --> 00:20:19,100 And that creates an oven, a very hot X-ray oven, 434 00:20:19,100 --> 00:20:20,933 which is 3 million degrees. 435 00:20:20,933 --> 00:20:22,400 And inside of the cylinder sits 436 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,900 a little, tiny capsule the size of a BB. 437 00:20:24,900 --> 00:20:26,966 Kritcher: And inside of that little, tiny BB 438 00:20:26,966 --> 00:20:29,900 sits the deuterium and tritium that we want to fuse together. 439 00:20:29,900 --> 00:20:33,400 And so this intense X-ray oven heats the outside 440 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,000 of the capsule, 441 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:36,000 ex  \h plodes that material outward, 442 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,566 and just like a rocket, where the rocket fuel goes out 443 00:20:38,566 --> 00:20:40,233 and that pushes a rocket up, 444 00:20:40,233 --> 00:20:42,233 we're squeezing the material down 445 00:20:42,233 --> 00:20:44,300 to half the size of a human hair 446 00:20:44,300 --> 00:20:45,733 from the size of a BB. 447 00:20:45,733 --> 00:20:47,400 Because of that outward expansion, 448 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,133 we get an implosion. 449 00:20:49,133 --> 00:20:52,566 What is the goal of this work in the big picture? 450 00:20:52,566 --> 00:20:56,100 Nuclear fusion could provide clean, limitless, 451 00:20:56,100 --> 00:20:59,433 abundant energy for mankind. 452 00:20:59,433 --> 00:21:03,000 Fusion is really the Holy Grail of energy. 453 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,300 Wallach: That dream reached 454 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,300 a  \h major milestone here recently 455 00:21:06,300 --> 00:21:08,133 as Annie's team led an experiment 456 00:21:08,133 --> 00:21:11,466 that successfully created ignition for the first time. 457 00:21:11,466 --> 00:21:13,966 This is the target bay. 458 00:21:13,966 --> 00:21:17,133 Here we have the target chamber, which is in blue. 459 00:21:17,133 --> 00:21:18,466 It's a spherical chamber. 460 00:21:18,466 --> 00:21:20,466 It's about 10 meters in diameter. 461 00:21:20,466 --> 00:21:22,866 And here, the laser beams come into the chamber. 462 00:21:22,866 --> 00:21:26,500 The laser beams are what drives our experiments. 463 00:21:26,500 --> 00:21:28,500 Wallach: If it's a 10-chapter book, 464 00:21:28,500 --> 00:21:31,966 what chapter are we in right now in this room? 465 00:21:31,966 --> 00:21:33,666 I'd say we're not in Chapter 1, 466 00:21:33,666 --> 00:21:36,133 because we've been working on this for quite a long while. 467 00:21:36,133 --> 00:21:37,466 And we just had the breakthrough. 468 00:21:37,466 --> 00:21:39,200 I guess, maybe Chapter 3. 469 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,300 The person that came up with the concept to do this 470 00:21:42,300 --> 00:21:44,133 did so before I was born. 471 00:21:44,133 --> 00:21:46,700 So it is really a passing-the-torch, 472 00:21:46,700 --> 00:21:50,533 multi-generation problem, big-science problem. 473 00:21:50,533 --> 00:21:52,966 Wallach: How should we be thinking 474 00:21:52,966 --> 00:21:54,800 about challenges like this? 475 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,666 Kritcher: I think it's really important to consider 476 00:21:56,666 --> 00:21:59,133 the long-term benefits and also 477 00:21:59,133 --> 00:22:01,366 the generations coming after us 478 00:22:01,366 --> 00:22:04,866 to create a clean world for them and to give them 479 00:22:04,866 --> 00:22:08,366 the necessary means to be able to generate 480 00:22:08,366 --> 00:22:09,866 energy in the future. 481 00:22:09,866 --> 00:22:11,966 So it's a really important grand challenge. 482 00:22:11,966 --> 00:22:14,466 And it's just so important 483 00:22:14,466 --> 00:22:17,366 for our future generations. 484 00:22:17,366 --> 00:22:19,033 Wallach: One of the most exciting things 485 00:22:19,033 --> 00:22:21,100 about this moment is that we have the tools 486 00:22:21,100 --> 00:22:23,566 and potential to shape the future in ways 487 00:22:23,566 --> 00:22:25,866 that have never been possible before. 488 00:22:25,866 --> 00:22:29,033 The choices we make around 489 00:22:25,866 --> 00:22:29,033 ho  \h w we develop our technologies 490 00:22:29,033 --> 00:22:31,933 here and now will set 491 00:22:29,033 --> 00:22:31,933 a  \h path for future generations 492 00:22:31,933 --> 00:22:34,233 to build on. 493 00:22:34,233 --> 00:22:36,800 In the great arc of human history, 494 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,866 we are living in the midst of an extraordinary time. 495 00:22:40,866 --> 00:22:43,233 Neil Degrasse Tyson: Deep time, like, what is that? 496 00:22:43,233 --> 00:22:47,433 How could the universe have been here without us? 497 00:22:47,433 --> 00:22:51,533 What does it mean that we've only been around 498 00:22:51,533 --> 00:22:55,133 for the tiniest sliver of time relative to the universe? 499 00:22:55,133 --> 00:22:57,766 This is a humbling revelation. 500 00:22:58,733 --> 00:23:01,600 Buonomano: All animals have clocks in our brains, 501 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,500 going back to a circadian clock, 502 00:23:04,500 --> 00:23:07,500 because it's very important to tell time 503 00:23:07,500 --> 00:23:09,100 and to predict what's going to happen. 504 00:23:09,100 --> 00:23:11,500 But humans have been obsessed with time, 505 00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:13,966 in many ways, throughout-- 506 00:23:13,966 --> 00:23:15,666 since the beginning of civilization. 507 00:23:15,666 --> 00:23:17,500 And if you go back through human history, 508 00:23:17,500 --> 00:23:20,433 it's been one long quest to measure time 509 00:23:20,433 --> 00:23:22,766 with more and more and more precision. 510 00:23:22,766 --> 00:23:25,266 E.G. Marshall: Time-- our story is about men 511 00:23:25,266 --> 00:23:26,933 who are attempting to defeat it. 512 00:23:26,933 --> 00:23:29,433 Time is their enemy in the search 513 00:23:29,433 --> 00:23:31,600 for the ultimate origins of man. 514 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,266 Tyson: If you take a football field, 515 00:23:34,266 --> 00:23:36,266 100 yards, 516 00:23:36,266 --> 00:23:39,500 and that's the timeline of the universe, 517 00:23:39,500 --> 00:23:42,266 cave dwellers to the present 518 00:23:42,266 --> 00:23:45,433 on a timeline that begins in one end zone 519 00:23:45,433 --> 00:23:47,433 and ends in the other, 520 00:23:47,433 --> 00:23:51,666 the thickness of a blade of grass 521 00:23:51,666 --> 00:23:56,133 at the end of that timeline 522 00:23:56,133 --> 00:24:01,200 is from present day back to cave paintings. 523 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,600 Buonomano: In many ways, one of the cognitive abilities 524 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:08,000 that makes Homo sapiens sapien--or wise, if you will-- 525 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,166 is our ability to conceptualize time. 526 00:24:11,166 --> 00:24:14,566 And this ability to engage in mental time travel 527 00:24:14,566 --> 00:24:17,666 seems to be pretty unique to humans. 528 00:24:20,733 --> 00:24:22,866 Wallach: Over the years, I've worked to help 529 00:24:22,866 --> 00:24:25,933 various organizations think about and plan for the future. 530 00:24:25,933 --> 00:24:28,700 But recently, something strange has started to happen. 531 00:24:28,700 --> 00:24:31,566 Long-term plans that were 20 or 30 years out 532 00:24:31,566 --> 00:24:35,000 are now only focused on the next 6 months. 533 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,400 As the pace of the world gets faster, 534 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,000 our perspective is getting smaller. 535 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,166 What does it take to step back and develop 536 00:24:42,166 --> 00:24:43,733 a long-term perspective? 537 00:24:43,733 --> 00:24:46,033 How does our past impact the future? 538 00:24:46,033 --> 00:24:48,333 And what can we learn from those who have faced 539 00:24:48,333 --> 00:24:50,833 moments like these before? 540 00:24:50,833 --> 00:24:56,700 [Men chanting in Kanienkeha] 541 00:24:56,700 --> 00:24:58,666 Wallach: I'm here to speak with someone 542 00:24:58,666 --> 00:25:00,800 who spent her life working to ensure her community 543 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,900 holds on to the best parts of their past 544 00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:04,666 as they look towards the future. 545 00:25:04,666 --> 00:25:06,566 Woman: Hi, Ari. Do not get up. 546 00:25:06,566 --> 00:25:07,666 Oh, thank you. 547 00:25:07,666 --> 00:25:09,400 Thank you for your invitation. 548 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:10,733 And thank you for joining us here. 549 00:25:10,733 --> 00:25:12,300 Thank you so much for having us. 550 00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:14,100 Thank you. This is my husband Tom. 551 00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:15,400 Oh, hey. 552 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:16,433 I'm just going to go around really fast. 553 00:25:16,433 --> 00:25:17,566 Yes. Grandson. 554 00:25:17,566 --> 00:25:18,733 Hey. Ari. Pleasure. 555 00:25:18,733 --> 00:25:20,266 Woman: My English name 556 00:25:20,266 --> 00:25:24,000 is Antonia Loretta Afraid of Bear Cook. 557 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,166 When I go in the nation's house and I address the nation, 558 00:25:28,166 --> 00:25:30,066 I am Anpetu Luta Win. 559 00:25:30,066 --> 00:25:31,933 I'm called Red Day Woman. 560 00:25:31,933 --> 00:25:34,566 Wallach: Loretta's work began here with her own tribe, 561 00:25:34,566 --> 00:25:37,600 where she works to pass on the ancient ways of her people 562 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,900 to the next generation. 563 00:25:39,900 --> 00:25:42,733 But that work quickly grew as leaders around the world 564 00:25:42,733 --> 00:25:45,166 recognized the wisdom that these ideas held 565 00:25:45,166 --> 00:25:47,566 for looking at today's challenges 566 00:25:47,566 --> 00:25:50,433 through a much wider lens. 567 00:25:50,433 --> 00:25:52,733 Wallach: When we think about the future, 568 00:25:52,733 --> 00:25:56,433 why is it so important that we remember the past? 569 00:25:57,300 --> 00:25:59,100 I think that the most important thing 570 00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:00,833 about that question is, 571 00:26:00,833 --> 00:26:03,866 we have to have interconnectedness. 572 00:26:03,866 --> 00:26:06,666 I have to know where I came from 573 00:26:06,666 --> 00:26:10,800 in order for me to teach my grandchildren 574 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,000 so that we can move forward. 575 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,000 This idea of time as an entity, 576 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,633 how would you say it's separate 577 00:26:18,633 --> 00:26:21,200 than the way time is practiced today, 578 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,200 kind of-- 579 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,966 It's very different. 580 00:26:23,966 --> 00:26:25,800 Afraid: You practice time according to a schedule 581 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,633 and according to, "Oh, I got to get over here. 582 00:26:27,633 --> 00:26:29,233 "I got to catch a plane. I got to do this. 583 00:26:29,233 --> 00:26:30,300 I got to do that." 584 00:26:30,300 --> 00:26:32,000 And it's very stressful. 585 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,066 But if you were to set it up in that spirit time, 586 00:26:35,066 --> 00:26:37,133 OK, what are you setting it up for? 587 00:26:37,133 --> 00:26:41,466 There's definitive ways in 588 00:26:37,133 --> 00:26:41,466 wh  \h ich you approach that time. 589 00:26:41,466 --> 00:26:43,900 If you're living in a spiritual way, 590 00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:46,133 then you have time to pay attention 591 00:26:46,133 --> 00:26:50,633 to the plants, the trees, the animals, 592 00:26:50,633 --> 00:26:52,666 the fish in the ocean. 593 00:26:52,666 --> 00:26:54,800 And when you're doing all of these things, 594 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,566 you begin to steward what's around you. 595 00:26:58,566 --> 00:27:00,966 But that's not how we live today. 596 00:27:00,966 --> 00:27:04,466 Today we live by that time that's running on a clock, 597 00:27:04,466 --> 00:27:08,366 and how much money can we make, you know, doing this? 598 00:27:08,366 --> 00:27:11,866 So you put profit over people. 599 00:27:12,933 --> 00:27:15,100 Wallach: Spending time with Loretta and her family, 600 00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:18,200 it's obvious that these concepts are not just ideas, 601 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,800 but rather principles that inform how she lives and works 602 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,366 to pass on the ancient ways of their people 603 00:27:24,366 --> 00:27:26,033 to the next generation. 604 00:27:26,033 --> 00:27:29,066 For her, these ways are not just about the past, 605 00:27:29,066 --> 00:27:31,200 but about a way of being in the present that 606 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,600 recognizes the impact that our lives will have 607 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,366 on future generations. 608 00:27:35,366 --> 00:27:37,866 What is seventh-generation thinking, 609 00:27:37,866 --> 00:27:39,766 and why is it so important today? 610 00:27:39,766 --> 00:27:42,033 Do you have children? Yes. 611 00:27:42,033 --> 00:27:47,100 OK. So can you recount back to your beginning? 612 00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:49,200 I can probably go back two or three generations. 613 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,700 OK. It's a concept. 614 00:27:51,700 --> 00:27:53,900 And it's a loving concept that we 615 00:27:53,900 --> 00:27:57,233 talk about to our loved ones. 616 00:27:57,233 --> 00:27:58,866 So you make it your business 617 00:27:58,866 --> 00:28:01,000 to know what it is about yourself 618 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,266 that you're going to engage in so you 619 00:28:03,266 --> 00:28:05,933 can get to that seventh-generation thinking. 620 00:28:05,933 --> 00:28:07,766 So 7-generation thinking 621 00:28:07,766 --> 00:28:09,533 is making decisions as if you think 622 00:28:09,533 --> 00:28:11,033 about the impact they will have 623 00:28:11,033 --> 00:28:13,266 on 7 generations from now? 624 00:28:13,266 --> 00:28:14,766 Exactly. 625 00:28:14,766 --> 00:28:16,300 Every decision that I make in this moment, 626 00:28:16,300 --> 00:28:17,933 I should think about the impact 627 00:28:17,933 --> 00:28:20,266 that it will have 7 generations from now. 628 00:28:20,266 --> 00:28:21,766 But people are-- they love convenience. 629 00:28:21,766 --> 00:28:23,333 They don't want to think about, 630 00:28:23,333 --> 00:28:25,133 oh, 7 generations, you know? 631 00:28:25,133 --> 00:28:28,866 But we have so many social ills all over the nation, 632 00:28:28,866 --> 00:28:30,433 all over the country. 633 00:28:30,433 --> 00:28:33,333 And those are the things that we're trying our best, 634 00:28:33,333 --> 00:28:37,466 I think, in this generation, to make a difference. 635 00:28:37,466 --> 00:28:40,833 ♪ 636 00:28:40,833 --> 00:28:43,466 What's your hope for the future? 637 00:28:43,466 --> 00:28:46,033 That we can all 638 00:28:43,466 --> 00:28:46,033 si  \h t together 639 00:28:46,033 --> 00:28:48,433 at a spiritual table 640 00:28:48,433 --> 00:28:52,800 and all of us be 641 00:28:48,433 --> 00:28:52,800 to  \h gether truly. 642 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:58,333 That's my prayer. That's my prayer. 643 00:28:58,333 --> 00:29:02,500 ♪ 644 00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:04,833 Tyson: When we saw Earth over our shoulders, 645 00:29:04,833 --> 00:29:06,500 having visited the moon, 646 00:29:06,500 --> 00:29:11,833 it was a firmware upgrade in our sense of awareness. 647 00:29:11,833 --> 00:29:15,333 Our first images from the moon were 1968, 648 00:29:15,333 --> 00:29:17,166 taken by astronauts. 649 00:29:17,166 --> 00:29:20,333 That was the first mission to the moon--Apollo 8. 650 00:29:20,333 --> 00:29:22,500 They went to the moon, orbited a dozen or so times, 651 00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:24,200 and then came back. 652 00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,733 One of those orbits, they lifted the Hasselblad, 653 00:29:26,733 --> 00:29:32,166 and there was Earth rising over the lunar landscape, 654 00:29:32,166 --> 00:29:37,233 just the way the moon rises over the Earth's landscape. 655 00:29:37,233 --> 00:29:39,166 Why do I call it a firmware upgrade? 656 00:29:39,166 --> 00:29:42,266 Because if you ask any one of those people, 657 00:29:42,266 --> 00:29:44,333 they're not consciously thinking, 658 00:29:44,333 --> 00:29:48,166 "I saw Earth from space," but they're feeling it. 659 00:29:48,166 --> 00:29:52,666 Psychoemotionally, they are reacting 660 00:29:52,666 --> 00:29:55,000 to a cosmic perspective. 661 00:29:56,333 --> 00:30:03,500 ♪ 662 00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:06,000 Wallach: Humans are at their 663 00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:06,000 be  \h st when we're thinking bigger 664 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,366 than just ourselves, when we look up and see 665 00:30:08,366 --> 00:30:11,000 beyond this moment to remember that we are part of everything 666 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,733 that came before us 667 00:30:12,733 --> 00:30:14,866 and we're also laying the foundation for generations 668 00:30:14,866 --> 00:30:16,500 yet to come. 669 00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:20,600 ♪ 670 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,333 But why do so many of the systems 671 00:30:22,333 --> 00:30:24,866 that govern our world today seem so locked 672 00:30:24,866 --> 00:30:27,066 into short-term thinking? 673 00:30:27,066 --> 00:30:30,233 I've come to Japan to meet an economist named Dr. Saijo 674 00:30:30,233 --> 00:30:32,500 who's challenging this way of thinking 675 00:30:32,500 --> 00:30:35,000 with remarkable results. 676 00:30:35,933 --> 00:30:37,900 So we know we have this problem 677 00:30:37,900 --> 00:30:39,033 of shortsightedness, 678 00:30:39,033 --> 00:30:40,500 and we want to kind of solve 679 00:30:40,500 --> 00:30:42,200 for intergenerational justice 680 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,666 and how we think about time differently. 681 00:30:45,666 --> 00:30:47,666 Tell me about your work. 682 00:31:07,833 --> 00:31:09,800 Wallach: Rather than just writing about the problems 683 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,566 with short-term thinking, 684 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,566 Dr  \h . Saijo started something here 685 00:31:12,566 --> 00:31:15,566 called the Future Design Center to test the impacts 686 00:31:15,566 --> 00:31:19,066 of long-term thinking in real-life situations, 687 00:31:19,066 --> 00:31:20,900 bringing together everyday people 688 00:31:20,900 --> 00:31:22,900 from the town to take part in creating 689 00:31:22,900 --> 00:31:24,466 the future of their community. 690 00:31:24,466 --> 00:31:27,900 [Speaking Japanese] 691 00:31:38,833 --> 00:31:41,233 [Speaking English] 692 00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:04,966 [Speaking Japanese] 693 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,000 Wallach: Community members put on these robes 694 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,133 to signify themselves as representatives 695 00:32:28,133 --> 00:32:30,300 of future generations. 696 00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:33,200 With this in mind, they work to address the needs of today, 697 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,033 but bearing in mind the impact these actions 698 00:32:36,033 --> 00:32:38,133 will have on those yet to be born. 699 00:32:38,133 --> 00:32:40,033 The results have been incredible, 700 00:32:40,033 --> 00:32:42,200 like when they achieved together 701 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,466 what traditional policymaking had failed to address 702 00:32:44,466 --> 00:32:46,366 for years, reaching an agreement 703 00:32:46,366 --> 00:32:49,200 to raise the community's water tax by 6% 704 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,466 in order to address the town's decaying infrastructure. 705 00:32:52,466 --> 00:32:55,633 Today, more than 80% of the town's policies 706 00:32:55,633 --> 00:32:58,666 are created by citizens who 707 00:32:55,633 --> 00:32:58,666 ha  \h ve become what they proudly 708 00:32:58,666 --> 00:33:01,066 refer to as future designers. 709 00:33:01,066 --> 00:33:03,366 I'm not even from Yahaba, but already I feel-- 710 00:33:03,366 --> 00:33:04,766 Quick. That's right. 711 00:33:04,766 --> 00:33:06,066 It's a quick shift. 712 00:33:06,066 --> 00:33:07,866 That's right. See in there. 713 00:33:07,866 --> 00:33:10,200 Wallach: The work that you've designed takes people 714 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,733 from being kind of an individual by themselves 715 00:33:13,733 --> 00:33:15,700 but instead starts to make it like a chain. 716 00:33:15,700 --> 00:33:17,933 You see yourself as part of something that came. 717 00:33:17,933 --> 00:33:19,233 Saijo: Yeah. 718 00:33:19,233 --> 00:33:20,966 Wallach: Then you you're here. 719 00:33:20,966 --> 00:33:22,700 But then you're connected to something that will be. 720 00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:24,033 Saito: That's right. 721 00:33:42,533 --> 00:33:45,033 ♪ 722 00:33:45,033 --> 00:33:48,100 Wallach: This idea of taking a longer-term perspective 723 00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:51,533 to the challenges facing us today is beginning 724 00:33:51,533 --> 00:33:55,266 to take shape around the world, like in Wales, 725 00:33:55,266 --> 00:33:57,100 where they recently turned this thinking 726 00:33:57,100 --> 00:34:00,600 into actual legislation, appointing a new role 727 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,433 known as the future generations commissioner. 728 00:34:04,433 --> 00:34:06,600 Howe: I'm Sophie Howe, and I was the first future generations 729 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,766 commissioner for Wales and the first future generations 730 00:34:09,766 --> 00:34:11,933 commissioner in the world. 731 00:34:11,933 --> 00:34:14,766 Back in 2015, our national parliament 732 00:34:14,766 --> 00:34:16,266 passed a law called the Well-Being 733 00:34:16,266 --> 00:34:18,166 of Future Generations Act. 734 00:34:18,166 --> 00:34:20,933 What we need to do is take a systems approach to thinking 735 00:34:20,933 --> 00:34:23,266 about the impact of all of our actions, 736 00:34:23,266 --> 00:34:26,266 what impacts they have today, but crucially 737 00:34:26,266 --> 00:34:27,933 in the context of this bill, what impact 738 00:34:27,933 --> 00:34:29,766 they have in the future. 739 00:34:29,766 --> 00:34:31,800 Howe: They held a national conversation with the citizens 740 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,933 of Wales where they posed the question, 741 00:34:33,933 --> 00:34:36,766 what's the Wales you want to leave behind to your children, 742 00:34:36,766 --> 00:34:39,366 your grandchildren, 743 00:34:36,766 --> 00:34:39,366 an  \h d future generations to come? 744 00:34:39,366 --> 00:34:42,600 That dialogue led to the government 745 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,266 identifying 7 long-term well-being goals, 746 00:34:46,266 --> 00:34:48,600 and all of our public institutions 747 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,933 must set objectives which maximize their contribution 748 00:34:51,933 --> 00:34:53,600 to all 7 goals. 749 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,166 Are you seeing sufficient scale and pace of progress? 750 00:34:57,166 --> 00:34:58,633 The guidance made no reference 751 00:34:58,633 --> 00:35:01,166 to the Future Generations Act at all. 752 00:35:01,166 --> 00:35:03,833 And this is part of the challenge that we're seeing. 753 00:35:03,833 --> 00:35:06,166 Howe: Built into 754 00:35:03,833 --> 00:35:06,166 ou  \h r legislation, the government 755 00:35:06,166 --> 00:35:07,833 and our other public institutions 756 00:35:07,833 --> 00:35:10,200 have to take the advice of the commissioner 757 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,566 or justify why not. 758 00:35:11,566 --> 00:35:14,500 And they have to justify that publicly. 759 00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:17,366 So in Wales, because we have this framework, 760 00:35:17,366 --> 00:35:19,333 we've completely transformed the way 761 00:35:19,333 --> 00:35:21,600 that we're thinking about transport planning, 762 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,533 for example, building a new stretch of motorway 763 00:35:24,533 --> 00:35:26,266 to deal with the problem of congestion. 764 00:35:26,266 --> 00:35:28,266 It's what we've always done. 765 00:35:28,266 --> 00:35:30,166 But the commissioner's intervention really 766 00:35:30,166 --> 00:35:32,500 challenged the government because you've never shifted 767 00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:35,000 your investment to actually giving people other means 768 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,666 of transportation--more walking, cycling, safe routes 769 00:35:39,666 --> 00:35:42,500 to those areas 770 00:35:39,666 --> 00:35:42,500 an  \h d public transport investment 771 00:35:42,500 --> 00:35:43,866 to those areas. 772 00:35:43,866 --> 00:35:46,200 We'll start to see air pollution reducing. 773 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,533 We'll start to see more people cycling, 774 00:35:48,533 --> 00:35:50,033 which is good for their health. 775 00:35:50,033 --> 00:35:51,833 The long-term impact, of course, 776 00:35:51,833 --> 00:35:54,500 is that we want to see an increase in life expectancy. 777 00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:56,333 So I think people are increasingly starting 778 00:35:56,333 --> 00:35:58,000 to see those connections. 779 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,233 If we can embrace models like we have in Wales, 780 00:36:01,233 --> 00:36:04,566 that has the potential to have a real trickle-down effect. 781 00:36:04,566 --> 00:36:07,733 And imagine if we multiply that by every decision 782 00:36:07,733 --> 00:36:10,900 or every approach that a public institution or a government 783 00:36:10,900 --> 00:36:14,066 take to deciding how they're going to roll out policy 784 00:36:14,066 --> 00:36:16,400 and encourages them to-- 785 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,300 well, not just encourages them, 786 00:36:18,300 --> 00:36:19,933 actually requires them to join the dots 787 00:36:19,933 --> 00:36:22,133 and think in a long-term way. 788 00:36:22,133 --> 00:36:23,766 ♪ 789 00:36:23,766 --> 00:36:25,566 Zaidi: We struggle a lot with long-term thinking, 790 00:36:25,566 --> 00:36:27,233 and we tend to default to short term-thinking 791 00:36:27,233 --> 00:36:29,133 quite often. 792 00:36:29,133 --> 00:36:31,733 And so we've kind of set up multiple aspects of society 793 00:36:31,733 --> 00:36:35,233 to work in a short-term capacity. 794 00:36:35,233 --> 00:36:37,600 One of the first questions I like to ask is, 795 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,400 who's benefiting from the system being this way? 796 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:40,833 Our systems are not really broken. 797 00:36:40,833 --> 00:36:43,733 That's a bit of a misconception to say that. 798 00:36:43,733 --> 00:36:45,900 I think our systems are designed to work 799 00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:47,400 exactly the way they are. 800 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:48,466 They're just not necessarily designed 801 00:36:48,466 --> 00:36:50,400 to work for you and I. 802 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,800 Narrator: Pollution is 803 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,800 co  \h ntamination of the environment 804 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,566 that interferes with the processes of life. 805 00:36:56,566 --> 00:36:58,600 In seeking a better life on Earth, 806 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,900 man in the 20th century has created a great technology 807 00:37:01,900 --> 00:37:06,366 at the expense of the environment essential to life. 808 00:37:06,366 --> 00:37:08,633 Tyson: We like identifying ourselves 809 00:37:08,633 --> 00:37:10,300 as an intelligent species. 810 00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:14,166 But who made that measurement? We did. 811 00:37:14,166 --> 00:37:17,966 We are polluting our environment. 812 00:37:17,966 --> 00:37:20,633 We are altering 813 00:37:20,633 --> 00:37:25,800 the very ecosystem that we need to survive. 814 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,966 We're creating a next wave of extinction 815 00:37:27,966 --> 00:37:31,466 across the tree of life without knowing 816 00:37:31,466 --> 00:37:35,300 what the long-term consequences of that might be. 817 00:37:35,300 --> 00:37:37,033 I could define intelligence in such a way 818 00:37:37,033 --> 00:37:40,200 so that there is no sign of it here on Earth. 819 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:47,166 My biggest fear is that, though we call ourselves intelligent, 820 00:37:47,166 --> 00:37:53,800 that we might not be wise enough to be the shepherds 821 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,133 we need to be to assure the survival 822 00:37:57,133 --> 00:37:59,966 of generations yet to be born. 823 00:37:59,966 --> 00:38:01,633 Zaidi: Having anxiety about the future 824 00:38:01,633 --> 00:38:03,733 is not an unreasonable thing. 825 00:38:03,733 --> 00:38:05,733 It's actually very logical in some ways 826 00:38:05,733 --> 00:38:07,700 when you look at the data around 827 00:38:07,700 --> 00:38:09,700 what we're seeing in the world. 828 00:38:09,700 --> 00:38:11,633 But the important thing is that we have 829 00:38:11,633 --> 00:38:13,366 the opportunity to shape it. 830 00:38:13,366 --> 00:38:14,800 And the hopeful part of that is that 831 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,100 we actually have all the solutions we need 832 00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:18,933 to address the problems. 833 00:38:18,933 --> 00:38:22,233 What we don't have is the context for those solutions 834 00:38:22,233 --> 00:38:24,633 to take hold. 835 00:38:24,633 --> 00:38:28,866 ♪ 836 00:38:28,866 --> 00:38:30,633 Wallach: I'm interested in exploring 837 00:38:30,633 --> 00:38:32,533 more of these new solutions 838 00:38:32,533 --> 00:38:34,866 and meeting the people who are creating them. 839 00:38:34,866 --> 00:38:37,533 That led me here to New Haven, where a former 840 00:38:37,533 --> 00:38:40,233 fisherman-turned-ocean-farmer named Bren Smith 841 00:38:40,233 --> 00:38:43,766 has become a catalyst 842 00:38:40,233 --> 00:38:43,766 fo  \h r change in this community. 843 00:38:43,766 --> 00:38:46,366 So, Bren, I have no idea 844 00:38:43,766 --> 00:38:46,366 wh  \h at a regenerative 845 00:38:46,366 --> 00:38:48,533 ocean farmer is. 846 00:38:48,533 --> 00:38:50,366 So both, I want you to tell me what it is 847 00:38:50,366 --> 00:38:52,100 and how you got into it. Sure. 848 00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:53,700 Smith: I was born and raised in Newfoundland, Canada, 849 00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:55,300 the edge of North America. 850 00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:56,966 All I wanted to be was a fisherman. 851 00:38:56,966 --> 00:38:58,533 That was my dream. 852 00:38:58,533 --> 00:38:59,866 I didn't want to be a politician, 853 00:38:59,866 --> 00:39:01,700 didn't want to be an astronaut. 854 00:39:01,700 --> 00:39:03,600 So I dropped out of high school when I was 14 855 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,766 and headed out to sea and fished the globe. 856 00:39:05,766 --> 00:39:10,433 Cod, crab, tuna-- you name it, I fished it. 857 00:39:10,433 --> 00:39:12,766 As I moved through, the problem was, 858 00:39:12,766 --> 00:39:16,433 I was fishing at the height of the industrial fishery 859 00:39:16,433 --> 00:39:17,700 tearing up whole ecosystems, you know, 860 00:39:17,700 --> 00:39:19,533 the things that we know now. 861 00:39:19,533 --> 00:39:22,600 But when I was in-- out in the Bering Sea, 862 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,933 the cod stocks crashed in Newfoundland, Canada. 863 00:39:24,933 --> 00:39:28,433 And that was such a wake-up call 864 00:39:28,433 --> 00:39:29,833 because I thought environmentalism 865 00:39:29,833 --> 00:39:31,966 was about birds and bees and bears. 866 00:39:31,966 --> 00:39:35,300 And to see 30,000 people thrown out of work, 867 00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:38,433 fishermen walking the streets like hungry ghosts, 868 00:39:38,433 --> 00:39:40,100 an economy built up 869 00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:42,433 and a culture built up over hundreds of years 870 00:39:42,433 --> 00:39:43,933 around a fishery, you realize, like, 871 00:39:43,933 --> 00:39:46,800 "Oh, this isn't about the environment. 872 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,200 "This is about the economies, the kitchen-table issue. 873 00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,266 This is that there will be no jobs on a dead ocean." 874 00:39:52,266 --> 00:39:55,600 ♪ 875 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,833 Wallach: Bren's path led him to ocean farming, 876 00:39:57,833 --> 00:40:00,500 where he now grows kelp and trains hundreds 877 00:40:00,500 --> 00:40:03,000 of other fishermen just like him to look at the ocean 878 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,800 in a whole new way. 879 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,433 In a time of growing concern around land-based agriculture, 880 00:40:09,433 --> 00:40:12,166 he sees untapped potential here at sea. 881 00:40:12,166 --> 00:40:15,766 ♪ 882 00:40:15,766 --> 00:40:17,333 Smith: I might come in again here. 883 00:40:17,333 --> 00:40:19,333 Let's see, Ron. 884 00:40:19,333 --> 00:40:21,333 So I've been farming this patch of water 885 00:40:21,333 --> 00:40:22,666 for almost 20 years. 886 00:40:22,666 --> 00:40:25,500 And what you're looking here at 887 00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:28,133 is 10 acres of kelp farm. 888 00:40:28,133 --> 00:40:31,266 So we have anchors on the side of the farm 889 00:40:31,266 --> 00:40:34,200 and then just rows of crop. 890 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,033 And the kelp is sitting about, you know, 891 00:40:37,033 --> 00:40:39,766 6, 7 feet below the surface. 892 00:40:39,766 --> 00:40:42,366 And our job as farmers is just to get 893 00:40:42,366 --> 00:40:45,333 the right amount of sunlight and nutrients 894 00:40:45,333 --> 00:40:47,100 in order to grow. 895 00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:48,766 So we care about the depth and what time of year 896 00:40:48,766 --> 00:40:51,500 we're planting, what temperature. 897 00:40:51,500 --> 00:40:53,133 So it's just simple as can be. 898 00:40:53,133 --> 00:40:54,466 You know, I wish it was more complicated. 899 00:40:54,466 --> 00:40:55,933 I'd seem smarter. 900 00:40:55,933 --> 00:40:57,300 But the idea is, 901 00:40:57,300 --> 00:40:58,700 when you're working with the ocean, 902 00:40:58,700 --> 00:41:00,900 you need to be a willow, not an oak. 903 00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:02,700 And you need to be something 904 00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:06,333 that you can remove and rebuild real easily. 905 00:41:10,266 --> 00:41:11,866 Ron, now-- 906 00:41:11,866 --> 00:41:13,533 Hey, Ron, we got a lot of pressure right here. 907 00:41:13,533 --> 00:41:17,000 Here we go. Now let me clean it. 908 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,766 All right. There we go. 909 00:41:19,766 --> 00:41:21,400 So what we're going to do is, 910 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,833 you're just going to grab a clump 911 00:41:22,833 --> 00:41:24,333 with your hand here and cut along. 912 00:41:24,333 --> 00:41:26,500 But try to-- don't cut the rope. 913 00:41:26,500 --> 00:41:28,333 So I'd rather you go below. 914 00:41:28,333 --> 00:41:30,100 And just lift it on high. 915 00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:33,666 OK. OK. Do some more here. 916 00:41:33,666 --> 00:41:35,366 I'm just going to cut. 917 00:41:35,366 --> 00:41:38,666 Smith: The power of kelp is that it has so many uses. 918 00:41:38,666 --> 00:41:41,566 Like, yes, we can eat it, and we should eat it, 919 00:41:41,566 --> 00:41:43,166 and it's going to be the center of the plate, 920 00:41:43,166 --> 00:41:45,333 because it's going to be affordable. 921 00:41:45,333 --> 00:41:47,000 We can make it delicious. 922 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,066 There's so much creativity in the food sector. 923 00:41:49,066 --> 00:41:51,066 You can use it for biostimulants 924 00:41:51,066 --> 00:41:53,733 and fertilizer and land-based ag for feed, 925 00:41:53,733 --> 00:41:56,366 cosmetics, pharmaceuticals. 926 00:41:56,366 --> 00:41:58,900 Bioplastics is a huge industry now. 927 00:41:58,900 --> 00:42:02,300 The idea is really to break down this sea wall 928 00:42:02,300 --> 00:42:04,066 between land and sea farming. 929 00:42:04,066 --> 00:42:05,900 Nutrients are in the waters--too much of it-- 930 00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:08,066 like phosphorus, nitrogen, carbon, 931 00:42:08,066 --> 00:42:09,800 all this sort of stuff. 932 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,233 It's collected, use plants to do it, 933 00:42:11,233 --> 00:42:12,333 bring it back, and use it 934 00:42:12,333 --> 00:42:13,900 for fertilizers, biostimulants, 935 00:42:13,900 --> 00:42:15,233 things like that 936 00:42:15,233 --> 00:42:16,633 because there are all these micronutrients 937 00:42:16,633 --> 00:42:18,900 that apple orchards need, 938 00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:21,400 flower farms, all this sort of stuff, 939 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,833 that it just is very accessible 940 00:42:23,833 --> 00:42:26,133 to the land-based plants. 941 00:42:26,133 --> 00:42:27,900 ♪ 942 00:42:27,900 --> 00:42:31,733 Wallach: The old story, in terms of humans and the sea is, 943 00:42:31,733 --> 00:42:33,433 we go out there, we take what we want. 944 00:42:33,433 --> 00:42:36,066 We take as much as we want as quickly as we want. 945 00:42:36,066 --> 00:42:37,666 And then go back to land, and we consume it. 946 00:42:37,666 --> 00:42:40,233 What's the new story? 947 00:42:40,233 --> 00:42:42,733 I think it's a great question. 948 00:42:42,733 --> 00:42:45,133 Like, we do need a story for the future, right? 949 00:42:45,133 --> 00:42:47,600 The biggest thing-- and I think this 950 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,400 gets missed in the climate discussion a lot-- 951 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,066 is that there needs to be a cultural transition. 952 00:42:52,066 --> 00:42:55,233 And you need to think about, like, what motivates people. 953 00:42:55,233 --> 00:42:58,066 What fills their soul and gets them up in the morning? 954 00:42:58,066 --> 00:42:59,833 This isn't necessarily about money. 955 00:42:59,833 --> 00:43:02,800 And that moment, when I was a kid, and, like, 956 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,300 wanted to be a fisherman because they had 957 00:43:04,300 --> 00:43:06,133 self-directed lives and the pride 958 00:43:06,133 --> 00:43:08,733 of feeding their communities, 959 00:43:08,733 --> 00:43:10,533 that's what we need to tap into. 960 00:43:10,533 --> 00:43:12,300 That's what motivates folks. 961 00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:14,533 And as a kelp farmer, yeah, I've had to say good-bye 962 00:43:14,533 --> 00:43:16,333 to rogue waves and chasing fish. 963 00:43:16,333 --> 00:43:17,366 But what I can embrace-- 964 00:43:17,366 --> 00:43:18,800 I own my own boat. 965 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,633 I succeed and fail on my own terms. 966 00:43:20,633 --> 00:43:22,300 I got to be, like, an engineer, a scientist, 967 00:43:22,300 --> 00:43:24,666 a farmer, all this sort of stuff at once. 968 00:43:24,666 --> 00:43:26,700 And I get to feed the folks around me. 969 00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:28,466 These are soul-filling jobs. 970 00:43:28,466 --> 00:43:30,966 And that's the discussion we have with fishermen. 971 00:43:30,966 --> 00:43:33,166 Like, yes, we all have to say good-bye to some things. 972 00:43:33,166 --> 00:43:36,300 But do we get the core of what makes us 973 00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:37,666 wake up every morning? 974 00:43:37,666 --> 00:43:39,300 And that's how you build an army of innovation 975 00:43:39,300 --> 00:43:41,300 at the end of the day, a blue-collar innovation. 976 00:43:41,300 --> 00:43:43,400 And quite honestly, you get the politics right. 977 00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,566 Like, if you can tap into that, 978 00:43:45,566 --> 00:43:47,533 where people see themselves 979 00:43:47,533 --> 00:43:49,500 as part of the solution, 980 00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:51,633 then the level of innovation 981 00:43:51,633 --> 00:43:53,900 and knowledge networks and sharing and stuff, 982 00:43:53,900 --> 00:43:56,300 I think that's where we transition to a better future. 983 00:43:56,300 --> 00:43:58,633 Because you just want millions of minds 984 00:43:58,633 --> 00:44:00,366 trying to figure this out. 985 00:44:00,366 --> 00:44:03,200 But you got to tap into the soul to do that. 986 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,700 [Gulls squawking] 987 00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:08,600 Zaidi: Sometimes it can feel like what we do doesn't really 988 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,733 amount to anything or doesn't add to the bigger picture that 989 00:44:11,733 --> 00:44:15,600 is unfolding or that we don't have the ability to enact 990 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,400 change in the real world. 991 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,533 But the fact is that every little action does add up. 992 00:44:19,533 --> 00:44:22,366 The desire to talk about these wonderful things in the future 993 00:44:22,366 --> 00:44:24,066 that like, oh, we'll have sustainability, 994 00:44:24,066 --> 00:44:25,700 we'll have equity, we'll have justice, 995 00:44:25,700 --> 00:44:27,533 we'll have all of these things, 996 00:44:27,533 --> 00:44:29,866 what we need to do is borrow those ideas from the future 997 00:44:29,866 --> 00:44:31,366 and think about, like, how we're 998 00:44:31,366 --> 00:44:33,366 going to implement them today. 999 00:44:33,366 --> 00:44:36,066 If you want a tree to grow 20 years from now, 1000 00:44:36,066 --> 00:44:38,800 you have to plant a physical seed to get that tree. 1001 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,533 What sort of future do you want? 1002 00:44:40,533 --> 00:44:42,266 And what's the action you can take 1003 00:44:42,266 --> 00:44:46,033 right now to enable that future to become a reality? 1004 00:44:46,033 --> 00:44:49,033 ♪ 1005 00:44:49,033 --> 00:44:51,966 Wallach: This idea of planting seeds right now 1006 00:44:51,966 --> 00:44:54,200 for better futures is an invitation 1007 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,733 to all of us, no matter where we are. 1008 00:44:56,733 --> 00:44:58,933 Here in the jungles of northeast India, 1009 00:44:58,933 --> 00:45:02,100 I came to meet someone who is doing just that, 1010 00:45:02,100 --> 00:45:04,600 leading a conservation effort to challenge 1011 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,500 how his community thinks about the futures they are building. 1012 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,466 Wallach: For years, I read bout these extraordinary, 1013 00:45:26,466 --> 00:45:29,366 natural-grown bridges, where ficus tree roots 1014 00:45:29,366 --> 00:45:31,633 are trained to grow into living crossings, 1015 00:45:31,633 --> 00:45:34,833 lasting for hundreds of years, connecting the villages 1016 00:45:34,833 --> 00:45:36,666 throughout the jungle. 1017 00:45:36,666 --> 00:45:39,466 Morningstar leads the effort to preserve these bridges, 1018 00:45:39,466 --> 00:45:41,966 and with them, an ancient way of thinking about 1019 00:45:41,966 --> 00:45:45,100 modern progress and the past. 1020 00:45:53,766 --> 00:45:55,933 Khongthaw: Building a root bridge is, like, 1021 00:45:55,933 --> 00:45:57,800 a 1,000-year-old traditional knowledge. 1022 00:46:07,833 --> 00:46:09,000 Wallach: Mm-hmm. 1023 00:46:19,533 --> 00:46:22,000 Wallach: So give me some facts about the root bridges. 1024 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,000 How many of them are there? 1025 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,433 What are the longest one? 1026 00:46:24,433 --> 00:46:26,233 What are the highest ones? 1027 00:46:50,233 --> 00:46:52,000 There are others who are coming in 1028 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,700 and saying, "That's nice, 1029 00:46:53,700 --> 00:46:55,900 but we can make a bridge with concrete." 1030 00:46:55,900 --> 00:46:58,833 What's the threat to you, 1031 00:46:58,833 --> 00:47:00,900 your way of life, 1032 00:47:00,900 --> 00:47:02,900 and really your way of thinking 1033 00:47:02,900 --> 00:47:05,233 when these bridges 1034 00:47:05,233 --> 00:47:07,966 kind of go up in your community? 1035 00:47:20,900 --> 00:47:24,166 [All speaking Pynursia] 1036 00:47:24,166 --> 00:47:26,633 How are you? Sit down, please. 1037 00:47:26,633 --> 00:47:29,466 Please, sit down. Yes, please sit down. 1038 00:47:29,466 --> 00:47:31,566 Wallach: In addition to his work on the bridges, 1039 00:47:31,566 --> 00:47:34,166 Morningstar travels to speak with students in schools 1040 00:47:34,166 --> 00:47:38,400 around the region, encouraging them to find and protect 1041 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,666 nature-based solutions to the problems 1042 00:47:40,666 --> 00:47:42,800 facing the communities here today 1043 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,466 and in the years to come. 1044 00:47:44,466 --> 00:47:46,566   ♪ 1045 00:47:46,566 --> 00:47:49,233 There's so much we can learn from these traditions, 1046 00:47:49,233 --> 00:47:51,300 as around the world, people are beginning 1047 00:47:51,300 --> 00:47:53,766 to rediscover that natural solutions 1048 00:47:53,766 --> 00:47:55,733 can have profound results. 1049 00:47:55,733 --> 00:47:58,233 There are projects under way around New York City 1050 00:47:58,233 --> 00:48:00,566 to restore oyster reefs that offset 1051 00:48:00,566 --> 00:48:02,466 erosion along the shorelines. 1052 00:48:02,466 --> 00:48:04,466 And in cities across China, 1053 00:48:04,466 --> 00:48:07,000 there's work being done to enable mangroves 1054 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,166 to serve as natural seawalls, preventing 1055 00:48:09,166 --> 00:48:11,633 flooding around major cities. 1056 00:48:11,633 --> 00:48:13,633 This is not a quick fix. 1057 00:48:13,633 --> 00:48:17,366 And the people who start these projects, these root bridges, 1058 00:48:17,366 --> 00:48:20,633 know they are doing something that is not just for them, 1059 00:48:20,633 --> 00:48:22,800 but it's going to be for their kids and even-- 1060 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,800 hundreds of years out. 1061 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,000 So we're, in many ways, saying 1062 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,633 to both of our communities, 1063 00:48:27,633 --> 00:48:30,166 "We're going to be in this together for a while." 1064 00:48:54,633 --> 00:48:58,633 ♪ 1065 00:48:58,633 --> 00:49:03,800 Wallach: When we started this, I was thinking 1066 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,366 that so many of the conversations 1067 00:49:06,366 --> 00:49:09,133 would somehow revolve around technology. 1068 00:49:09,133 --> 00:49:14,033 And yet as I talk about what people are working on, 1069 00:49:14,033 --> 00:49:16,933 what do they want to see happen in futures, 1070 00:49:16,933 --> 00:49:20,033 they talk about being human again. 1071 00:49:20,033 --> 00:49:22,533 And what's most surprising to me 1072 00:49:22,533 --> 00:49:25,300 is the desire to kind of start making 1073 00:49:25,300 --> 00:49:29,033 some decisions about what do we want to leave behind 1074 00:49:29,033 --> 00:49:30,866 and what do we want to start creating 1075 00:49:30,866 --> 00:49:32,866 more of that we've lost. 1076 00:49:32,866 --> 00:49:37,733 ♪ 1077 00:49:37,733 --> 00:49:41,200 What, right now, gives you hope? 1078 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,966 Hershfield: This is a wonderful question because it's so easy. 1079 00:49:44,966 --> 00:49:49,033 It's so easy to only see doom and gloom out there. 1080 00:49:49,033 --> 00:49:53,100 Even if we consider the doom and gloom, 1081 00:49:53,100 --> 00:49:55,533 time still marches on. 1082 00:49:55,533 --> 00:49:58,466 There's no stopping the progress of time. 1083 00:49:58,466 --> 00:50:01,200 So it gives me hope to consider how we've done things 1084 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,300 in the past to make the present better 1085 00:50:03,300 --> 00:50:05,133 and what we might be able to do now to make 1086 00:50:05,133 --> 00:50:07,200 the future better, as well. 1087 00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,366 Tyson: We are small in time and in space, 1088 00:50:10,366 --> 00:50:13,533 participating in a great unfolding 1089 00:50:13,533 --> 00:50:15,200 of cosmic events, 1090 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,466 a reminder that civilization is precious, 1091 00:50:18,466 --> 00:50:21,100 life is precious. 1092 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:27,766 We should do everything we can to preserve it 1093 00:50:27,766 --> 00:50:31,066 in this one moment we have 1094 00:50:31,066 --> 00:50:35,033 to experience the glory of this universe. 1095 00:50:35,033 --> 00:50:37,733 ♪ 1096 00:50:37,733 --> 00:50:39,133 Nature give me hope 1097 00:50:39,133 --> 00:50:41,600 because when you look at the things 1098 00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:46,066 happening in the world, the legislative, the war, 1099 00:50:46,066 --> 00:50:47,533 and the fighting, the clash, 1100 00:50:47,533 --> 00:50:49,866 the rivalry, the protests, 1101 00:50:49,866 --> 00:50:52,533 it's about, you know-- about human beings. 1102 00:50:52,533 --> 00:50:56,433 So, for me, the most important thing about nature 1103 00:50:56,433 --> 00:51:00,433 give me hope because the way you see nature, 1104 00:51:00,433 --> 00:51:03,000 you know, it's a good thing to learn from nature. 1105 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,766 So just go to nature and sit there. 1106 00:51:05,766 --> 00:51:09,600 See the animals. See the ants. See the birds. See the bees. 1107 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,766 Just learn from them, and then come back. 1108 00:51:11,766 --> 00:51:14,600 It will change your life. 1109 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,833 Smith: You know, we can build something from the bottom up 1110 00:51:16,833 --> 00:51:19,666 that we're proud of that's beautiful that we can, like, 1111 00:51:19,666 --> 00:51:21,433 point to this moment being, like, 1112 00:51:21,433 --> 00:51:23,766 "Yeah, we built something to hand to you. 1113 00:51:23,766 --> 00:51:28,100 We started this for you. Now you continue it." 1114 00:51:28,100 --> 00:51:32,133 Saijo: 10 centuries later, when we open up 1115 00:51:32,133 --> 00:51:34,600 a kind of history book, 1116 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,766 imagine, then, are we the people 1117 00:51:37,766 --> 00:51:41,100 who destroyed our entire Earth? 1118 00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:44,600 That's the reason 1119 00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:44,600 wh  \h y, see, we are short of food, 1120 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,100 we are short of energy. 1121 00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:49,766 We don't want to be that kind of ancestor, right? 1122 00:51:49,766 --> 00:51:51,600 Wallach: Uh-huh. 1123 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,700 Saijo: Please think about embracing our future. 1124 00:51:55,700 --> 00:51:58,600 That's my message. 1125 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,166 Wallach: For the first time in human history, 1126 00:52:01,166 --> 00:52:03,400 we are now grappling with a set of issues, 1127 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,166 a set of decisions that we have to make that will have 1128 00:52:06,166 --> 00:52:10,833 long-term consequences for Homo sapiens, for our species, 1129 00:52:10,833 --> 00:52:12,666 and for this planet. 1130 00:52:12,666 --> 00:52:14,900 If we want to think about where we might be able to go 1131 00:52:14,900 --> 00:52:17,033 tomorrow, what could happen, and what do we want to see 1132 00:52:17,033 --> 00:52:20,166 happen, it's important for 1133 00:52:17,033 --> 00:52:20,166 us  \h to be able to kind of look 1134 00:52:20,166 --> 00:52:23,666 back and see ourselves as part of something much larger. 1135 00:52:23,666 --> 00:52:25,533 If we really want to move forward, 1136 00:52:25,533 --> 00:52:27,500 we have to be curious about what 1137 00:52:27,500 --> 00:52:29,766 those different forwards and those futures could look like. 1138 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:58,900 ♪ 87180

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