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[calm music]
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♪
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Man: We're in the Ancient
Bristlecone Pine Forest,
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just over 11,000 feet,
home to some of the oldest
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trees on planet Earth.
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The trees in this forest that
are surrounding me right now
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are older than
the pyramids in Egypt.
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They were alive
when Jesus Christ was born.
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Some of these trees were
already 4,000 years old
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when the United States was born.
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They go back further than
almost all recorded history.
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♪
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When you're
at a place like this,
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it changes your perspective
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because these trees
are truly the great
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ancestors of life on Earth.
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They have been here for so long
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and will more than likely
be here long after I'm gone.
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And it's very rare
to be in a place
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where you have
that sense of time.
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It changes your perspective
on not only where we are
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and what we've done
as a species on this planet,
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but where we might
be able to go.
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Woman: Set one Ari, take one.
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Man: Name and describe yourself.
What are you? Who are you?
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Ha ha! My name is Ari Wallach.
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I am a father, a husband,
and during the day,
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when I'm not doing those
two probably most important
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things, I am a futurist.
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[Grimes' "Oblivion" playing]
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♪
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Grimes: ♪ Ah ♪
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♪ Ah ♪
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♪ Ah ♪
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♪ I never walk about
after dark ♪
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♪ It's my point of view ♪
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♪ 'Cause someone could
break your neck ♪
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♪ Coming up behind you ♪
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♪ Always coming,
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an
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d you'd never have a clue ♪
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♪ I never look behind
all the time ♪
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♪ I will wait forever ♪
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♪ Always looking straight ♪
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♪ Thinking, counting
all the hours you wait ♪
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Wallach: Growing up,
I remember feeling
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so excited about the future,
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impatient, actually because I
couldn't
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wait for it to arrive.
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[dramatic music]
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Beam me aboard.
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["The Jetsons" theme song]
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Wallach: I watched
movies and TV shows
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that told stories
of what felt like
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inevitable human progress,
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filling me with a sense
of hope and possibility.
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[engines roaring]
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And it wasn't just on TV.
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We were launching rockets.
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Markets were booming.
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And the Internet
was coming online.
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Bill Clinton:
Hope is back in America.
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We are on the right track
to the 21st century.
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Dick Clark: 3, 2, 1.
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Happy 2000!
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William McRaven:
The next generation
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and the generations that follow
will live in a world
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far better
than the one we have today.
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Wallach: I went to work
as a futurist,
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helping governments
and major companies
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around the world
better think about and plan
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for the future,
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not working
to predict the future,
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but looking at long-term trends
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and the impacts they were
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go
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It was an exciting time.
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And it really did feel like
we were on the brink
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of something extraordinary.
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New technology
was poised to bring about
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unprecedented prosperity
and connection.
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Less poverty, more peace,
and shorter work weeks
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were all right
around the corner.
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But then something happened,
or didn't happen.
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And that future
never really showed up.
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We are now working more,
not less.
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We have become more
technologically connected
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and yet more deeply divided.
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The consequences
of long-overlooked
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environmental destruction are
showing up in terrifying ways.
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And the stories
we tell ourselves
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about tomorrow
are now stories of dystopia
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where everything falls apart.
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Our feelings
about tomorrow have shifted
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from excitement to dread.
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And the future
has become something
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to avoid rather than to build.
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But over the years,
my work has convinced me
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the future is not set in stone.
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We have the power to shape it.
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That's what's led me here
to making this show.
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I'm looking for the people
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wh
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o are building better futures
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for themselves,
for their kids,
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and for the world around them.
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Because the truth is, we have
choices to make right now.
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And these choices
are going to have
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major, long-lasting effects.
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So I'm headed out on a journey
to meet the brilliant minds
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and brave pioneers
changing our world
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and reinventing tomorrow,
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people who believe that we have
everything we need
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to create better futures--
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not perfect, but better--
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and something each
generation can build on,
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those challenging
the status quo,
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expanding our ideas
of what's at stake
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and what's still possible,
from food to education,
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from the cities we live in
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to the ways in which
we organize our societies,
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people using new tools
and ancient wisdom
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to restore our relationship
with each other,
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to ourselves, and to this
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be
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a journey to rediscover
how far we've come,
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and where we could take this
whole thing moving forward.
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What I'm really
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mo
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is trying to find the people
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and the ideas
that are going to kind of
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show us what futures
could be and from there
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figure out which ones we want.
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Man: So this is great.
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So let's talk a little bit
about the science
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of motivation.
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What do we think--
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Wallach: As my journey begins,
I'm interested in why,
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even with all these
tools and technologies
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available, so many of us
find it difficult to think
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about the future.
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That's brought me
here to sit down
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with a behavioral psychologist
named Hal Hershfield.
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Hershfield: Our future selves
often feel like strangers to us.
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They feel like sort of
different people altogether.
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One of the big findings
in the early days
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of what's called
"social neuroscience"
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is that
the brain can tell
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what's me
and what's not me,
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which makes sense
in a way.
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If I'm sitting in a scanner,
and I think about myself,
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I see more activity
in what's called
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my medial
prefrontal cortex
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and certain parts
of the brain there
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than if I, say,
think about you.
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Hershfield: I was more
interested because I thought
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that that finding held the clue
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for maybe why we start thinking
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about our future selves
as different, other people.
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In other words, if I can
distinguish between me
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and you in my brain,
would I see
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a same sort
of disconnect between me
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and my future self
in my brain?
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So here's what we did.
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We had our research
participants
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go into the scanner.
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They see a little screen
in front of them.
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It's a really boring,
basic screen.
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And they see a word
at the top.
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And the word
represents a person
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they need to think about.
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So they say, "OK.
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Think about current self or
think about your future self."
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And what we saw was that the
brain activity from thinking
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about your future self
was more similar
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to the brain activity
when people thought
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about another person.
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Wallach: What are the
implications of that?
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It suggests that
on some deeper level,
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we really do think
about our future selves
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as if they are
other people.
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When you take
that perspective,
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if our future self
is some other person,
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then the consequences
of my decisions right now
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are going to befall
some other person.
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All right.
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So why don't you
look at me?
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All right.
That's good.
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All right.
Now keep that face.
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All right. And let's
try this one more time.
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We're going to do
something funny here.
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All right. So let's
pull these up here.
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And then here's the...
Oh!
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older ver--
Wow. All right.
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So what do you think
when you see that?
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I mean, I'm sure
people have
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a somewhat
similar reaction.
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That looks shockingly
like my dad.
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Yeah.
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It seems like I don't
totally know who that is.
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Right.
Right. Right.
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But it also doesn't
seem that far from now.
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Right.
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Which is, in a way,
true to form, right?
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Like, when we think
about our future selves,
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you know, they may not
be that far from now.
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We don't totally know
who they are, but--
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When I first see that,
like, it's jarring.
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And then now
you think, "OK."
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Once you get over
the initial kind of shock
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of where things could go,
you think, like, "OK.
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"Well, like, if these are
still the same individual,
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"like, how
does this one now,
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"like, befriend and
best-friend this one.
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And what would you
do for a best friend?"
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I think that's, like,
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the exact right
perspective there.
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Because they're
not the same.
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Yeah.
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But it is that same
sort of relationship
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of a best friend.
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In some ways, the work
that you're doing,
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it's like
a wormhole, right?
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It's like the "Star Trek"
wormhole to the future
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and lets us kind of
see ahead.
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But, like you said, it's
not just about vision.
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It's actually
about the emotions
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that pull us through.
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And I think this
is a key insight here.
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This is really a
conversation about empathy.
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This is a vision that's
really hard to conjure up.
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I can't picture
my grandkids.
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I can barely
picture my own kids
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when they're older
because I'm so stuck
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on what they
look like right now.
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But I have
a really easy time
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knowing how
I want them to feel
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and knowing how I want
their kids to feel
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and on and on and on.
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And so,
like you said,
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that's the empathy
through line.
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That's the sort of
empathy freeway
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that we want
to consider.
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Wallach: It's powerful
to consider how we want
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life to be for the generations
yet to be born.
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And it forces us to think
beyond our own lifetime.
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Man: Today, we live
in a world in which
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we're ill-adapted to inhabit.
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That wasn't
the world, the space
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and time, the environment
that we evolved in.
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So a natural
consequence of that
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is some of our
cognitive abilities
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aren't necessarily tuned
for the world that we've
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miraculously managed
to construct,
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a world in which we have
a vast amount of information
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and an amazing ability
to address future problems,
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to invest in the future.
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And that ability is
something that perhaps
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we don't use to the extent
that we would like.
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Woman: I like to think
of the future as a story.
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It's really a set of ideas
that we all engage in.
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And in other ways,
it kind of doesn't exist.
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And so it's open terrain
for lots of new ideas
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and new ways
of being in the world.
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Wallach: So when most people
ask me what's my story,
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I actually start back in 1922.
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Woman: This is the Holocaust
Oral History Project
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interview
of Rachmiel Wolochwianski,
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April 28, 1993.
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Wolochwianski: I am born in the
city Baranowicze, East Poland.
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Wallach: 1922 was the year
my father was born
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in a small town called
Baranowicze in Poland.
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Around the time
of his 18th birthday
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was when the Nazis
invaded Poland.
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Narrator: These were the only
pictures made in the city
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during the siege.
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Many of the middle-aged
were sullen and angry.
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Youngsters were
half-resentful, half-resigned,
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while their elders
turned to prayer.
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Wallach: All the Jews were
pushed into a small ghetto.
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Eventually, his mother and
sister were sent to Auschwitz,
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and that's where
they perished.
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Now, my father
and his brother and dad
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were still in the ghetto.
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And at one point,
they actually escaped.
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And in the kind of escape
of leaving the ghetto,
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my grandfather
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wa
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And soon thereafter, my father
joined the Jewish underground,
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the resistance,
and for several years,
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basically he lived
in the forests of Poland
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fighting the Nazis
day in and day out.
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When I thought about what
I want to do with my life
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I decided to choose a path
that would allow me
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to kind of apply
the way I think
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we should
be morally operating
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as a species,
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no
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against the Nazis of today,
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wh
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but in many ways to think
about what was happening
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in the late 1920s
and late 1930s
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before the Nazis came to power,
thinking about how
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the world was in so much flux,
and why weren't there people
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around to help steer us
towards a better path?
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In many ways, that greatly
influences the work that I do.
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I'm thinking about
where can we take this
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in a positive way, right?
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I'm not a futurist
who's saying,
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"Look out for these different
icebergs on the Titanic."
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I'm saying there are
icebergs out there.
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We should navigate
through them.
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But what is the harbor
that we're trying to get to?
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There's a phrase called
"cathedral thinking."
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And what that means is,
how do we go about
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making decisions
in the same ways
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that those who build
ancient cathedrals thought?
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Because when they were
building cathedrals,
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I mean, more often
than not, the architect
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and the initial builders
of the cathedral
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wouldn't even be around
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to
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It wouldn't happen
in their lifetime.
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So they had to make
these decisions in a way
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where they were literally
laying the cornerstone
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for something that they would
never actually see completed,
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but they were doing it
for the next generation.
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I came to Cordoba
to see firsthand
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a project that has been
many, many generations
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in the making.
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[Speaking Spanish]
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Wallach: It's awe-inspiring
to experience something
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that those who started never
lived to see completed
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built as a gift
to those yet to be born,
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a reminder that
the future is being built
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on our actions right now.
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The future is a verb.
It's something we do.
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We can become great ancestors.
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And that is what
the future needs us to do
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right now,
to think in a way
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that places us in their shoes.
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♪
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[Speaking Spanish]
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[Speaking Spanish]
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[Speaking Spanish]
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[Speaking Spanish]
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[Speaking Spanish]
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[Speaking Spanish]
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[Speaking Spanish]
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♪
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Wallach: This idea of stepping
back to see ourselves
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and the work we do in this
moment as a piece of something
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larger is so powerful,
and it has the potential
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to unlock bigger, better ideas
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worth working towards
in the years to come.
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♪
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It's my first time
in Morocco, and I've
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read about this massive solar
power plant for a while now.
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And to be able
to come and visit it
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is kind of like
a dream come true.
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It's a little bit,
you know, solar, alternative,
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renewable energy geek in me.
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But to see a plant
kind of come up
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in the middle of
the desert using the latest
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technology that can power
a huge part of the country
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is amazing for me.
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So tell me, where
are we right now?
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Wallach: So in this area
right here just alone,
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how many of these
mirrors are there?
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Two million?
Two million.
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2 million
of these panels?
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Yeah, in NOOR I.
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Wallach: The complex
here is the largest
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concentrated solar power plant
in the world,
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generating enough power
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to supply a million
homes in Morocco
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with renewable electricity.
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And in a country that doesn't
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ha
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ve a natural supply of oil,
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natural gas, or coal,
they believe this is the start
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of something even bigger.
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Wallach: What is kind of
your hope and your dream
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for Morocco in terms of the
raw resources that are coming
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to your land from the sky?
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Wallach: What could
an energy-independent future
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look like,
not just here, but everywhere?
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What impact will it have on
our politics, our health care,
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and the well-being
of the natural world
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when we create a future
independent from fossil fuels?
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Solar technology
is just one piece of making
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that future a reality.
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But as large-scale facilities
are popping up in countries
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all over the world, the goal
of powering major cities
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and entire countries
is getting closer every day.
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♪
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In Northern California,
scientists
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are taking a similar approach
by applying long-term thinking
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to the challenges
facing us today,
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pursuing a long-held dream
of limitless clean energy.
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Kritcher: I'm Annie Kritcher.
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I was a lead designer
for the Ignition experiment.
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We are at the National
Ignition Facility
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in Livermore, California.
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What we do here is,
we take two atoms,
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and we smash them together,
and we make a heavier atom.
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And that process
releases energy.
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And so you're literally for
90 trillionths of a second
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creating a mini sun.
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That's correct.
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Kritcher: The reason that we
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ne
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ed to generate stars on Earth
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is to reach
the extreme conditions
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that are required to get
two atoms to fuse together.
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So you need tens of millions
of degrees to do that.
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We have 192
laser beams which enter
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the ends of a hollow cylinder.
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And then they hit the hollow
cylinder on the inside.
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And that creates an oven,
a very hot X-ray oven,
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which is
3 million degrees.
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And inside of
the cylinder sits
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a little, tiny capsule
the size of a BB.
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Kritcher: And inside
of that little, tiny BB
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sits the deuterium and tritium
that we want to fuse together.
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And so this intense X-ray oven
heats the outside
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of the capsule,
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ex
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plodes that material outward,
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and just like a rocket,
where the rocket fuel goes out
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and that pushes
a rocket up,
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we're squeezing
the material down
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to half the size
of a human hair
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from the size of a BB.
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Because of that
outward expansion,
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we get an implosion.
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What is the goal of this
work in the big picture?
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Nuclear fusion could
provide clean, limitless,
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abundant energy
for mankind.
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Fusion is really the
Holy Grail of energy.
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Wallach: That dream reached
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a
\h
major milestone here recently
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as Annie's team
led an experiment
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that successfully created
ignition for the first time.
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This is the target bay.
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Here we have the target
chamber, which is in blue.
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It's a spherical
chamber.
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It's about 10 meters
in diameter.
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And here, the laser beams
come into the chamber.
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The laser beams are what
drives our experiments.
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Wallach: If it's
a 10-chapter book,
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what chapter are we in
right now in this room?
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I'd say we're not
in Chapter 1,
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because we've been working on
this for quite a long while.
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And we just had
the breakthrough.
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I guess,
maybe Chapter 3.
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The person that came up
with the concept to do this
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did so before
I was born.
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So it is really
a passing-the-torch,
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multi-generation problem,
big-science problem.
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Wallach: How should
we be thinking
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about challenges like this?
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Kritcher: I think it's
really important to consider
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the long-term benefits
and also
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the generations
coming after us
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to create a clean world
for them and to give them
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the necessary means
to be able to generate
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energy in the future.
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So it's a really
important grand challenge.
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And it's just
so important
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for our future
generations.
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Wallach: One of the most
exciting things
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about this moment
is that we have the tools
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and potential to shape
the future in ways
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that have never been
possible before.
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The choices we make around
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ho
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w we develop our technologies
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here and now will set
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a
\h
path for future generations
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to build on.
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In the great arc
of human history,
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we are living in the midst
of an extraordinary time.
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Neil Degrasse Tyson: Deep time,
like, what is that?
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How could the universe
have been here without us?
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What does it mean
that we've only been around
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for the tiniest sliver of time
relative to the universe?
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This is a humbling revelation.
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Buonomano: All animals
have clocks in our brains,
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going back to
a circadian clock,
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because it's very
important to tell time
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and to predict what's
going to happen.
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But humans have been
obsessed with time,
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in many ways, throughout--
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since the beginning
of civilization.
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And if you go back
through human history,
508
00:23:17,500 --> 00:23:20,433
it's been one long
quest to measure time
509
00:23:20,433 --> 00:23:22,766
with more and more
and more precision.
510
00:23:22,766 --> 00:23:25,266
E.G. Marshall: Time--
our story is about men
511
00:23:25,266 --> 00:23:26,933
who are attempting to defeat it.
512
00:23:26,933 --> 00:23:29,433
Time is their enemy
in the search
513
00:23:29,433 --> 00:23:31,600
for the ultimate origins of man.
514
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,266
Tyson: If you take
a football field,
515
00:23:34,266 --> 00:23:36,266
100 yards,
516
00:23:36,266 --> 00:23:39,500
and that's the timeline
of the universe,
517
00:23:39,500 --> 00:23:42,266
cave dwellers to the present
518
00:23:42,266 --> 00:23:45,433
on a timeline
that begins in one end zone
519
00:23:45,433 --> 00:23:47,433
and ends in the other,
520
00:23:47,433 --> 00:23:51,666
the thickness
of a blade of grass
521
00:23:51,666 --> 00:23:56,133
at the end of that timeline
522
00:23:56,133 --> 00:24:01,200
is from present day
back to cave paintings.
523
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,600
Buonomano: In many ways,
one of the cognitive abilities
524
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:08,000
that makes Homo sapiens
sapien--or wise, if you will--
525
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,166
is our ability
to conceptualize time.
526
00:24:11,166 --> 00:24:14,566
And this ability to engage
in mental time travel
527
00:24:14,566 --> 00:24:17,666
seems to be pretty
unique to humans.
528
00:24:20,733 --> 00:24:22,866
Wallach: Over the years,
I've worked to help
529
00:24:22,866 --> 00:24:25,933
various organizations think
about and plan for the future.
530
00:24:25,933 --> 00:24:28,700
But recently, something
strange has started to happen.
531
00:24:28,700 --> 00:24:31,566
Long-term plans
that were 20 or 30 years out
532
00:24:31,566 --> 00:24:35,000
are now only focused
on the next 6 months.
533
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,400
As the pace
of the world gets faster,
534
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,000
our perspective
is getting smaller.
535
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,166
What does it take
to step back and develop
536
00:24:42,166 --> 00:24:43,733
a long-term perspective?
537
00:24:43,733 --> 00:24:46,033
How does our past
impact the future?
538
00:24:46,033 --> 00:24:48,333
And what can we learn
from those who have faced
539
00:24:48,333 --> 00:24:50,833
moments like these before?
540
00:24:50,833 --> 00:24:56,700
[Men chanting in Kanienkeha]
541
00:24:56,700 --> 00:24:58,666
Wallach: I'm here
to speak with someone
542
00:24:58,666 --> 00:25:00,800
who spent her life working
to ensure her community
543
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,900
holds on to the best
parts of their past
544
00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:04,666
as they look
towards the future.
545
00:25:04,666 --> 00:25:06,566
Woman: Hi, Ari.
Do not get up.
546
00:25:06,566 --> 00:25:07,666
Oh, thank you.
547
00:25:07,666 --> 00:25:09,400
Thank you for
your invitation.
548
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:10,733
And thank you for
joining us here.
549
00:25:10,733 --> 00:25:12,300
Thank you so much
for having us.
550
00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:14,100
Thank you.
This is my husband Tom.
551
00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:15,400
Oh, hey.
552
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:16,433
I'm just going to go
around really fast.
553
00:25:16,433 --> 00:25:17,566
Yes.
Grandson.
554
00:25:17,566 --> 00:25:18,733
Hey. Ari.
Pleasure.
555
00:25:18,733 --> 00:25:20,266
Woman: My English name
556
00:25:20,266 --> 00:25:24,000
is Antonia Loretta Afraid
of Bear Cook.
557
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:28,166
When I go in the nation's
house and I address the nation,
558
00:25:28,166 --> 00:25:30,066
I am Anpetu Luta Win.
559
00:25:30,066 --> 00:25:31,933
I'm called Red Day Woman.
560
00:25:31,933 --> 00:25:34,566
Wallach: Loretta's work
began here with her own tribe,
561
00:25:34,566 --> 00:25:37,600
where she works to pass on
the ancient ways of her people
562
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,900
to the next generation.
563
00:25:39,900 --> 00:25:42,733
But that work quickly grew
as leaders around the world
564
00:25:42,733 --> 00:25:45,166
recognized the wisdom
that these ideas held
565
00:25:45,166 --> 00:25:47,566
for looking
at today's challenges
566
00:25:47,566 --> 00:25:50,433
through a much wider lens.
567
00:25:50,433 --> 00:25:52,733
Wallach: When we
think about the future,
568
00:25:52,733 --> 00:25:56,433
why is it so important
that we remember the past?
569
00:25:57,300 --> 00:25:59,100
I think that the most
important thing
570
00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:00,833
about that
question is,
571
00:26:00,833 --> 00:26:03,866
we have to have
interconnectedness.
572
00:26:03,866 --> 00:26:06,666
I have to know
where I came from
573
00:26:06,666 --> 00:26:10,800
in order for me
to teach my grandchildren
574
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,000
so that we
can move forward.
575
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,000
This idea of time
as an entity,
576
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,633
how would you say
it's separate
577
00:26:18,633 --> 00:26:21,200
than the way time
is practiced today,
578
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,200
kind of--
579
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,966
It's very different.
580
00:26:23,966 --> 00:26:25,800
Afraid: You practice time
according to a schedule
581
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,633
and according to,
"Oh, I got to get over here.
582
00:26:27,633 --> 00:26:29,233
"I got to catch a plane.
I got to do this.
583
00:26:29,233 --> 00:26:30,300
I got to do that."
584
00:26:30,300 --> 00:26:32,000
And it's very stressful.
585
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,066
But if you were to set it up
in that spirit time,
586
00:26:35,066 --> 00:26:37,133
OK, what are you
setting it up for?
587
00:26:37,133 --> 00:26:41,466
There's definitive ways in
588
00:26:37,133 --> 00:26:41,466
wh
\h
ich you approach that time.
589
00:26:41,466 --> 00:26:43,900
If you're living
in a spiritual way,
590
00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:46,133
then you have time
to pay attention
591
00:26:46,133 --> 00:26:50,633
to the plants,
the trees, the animals,
592
00:26:50,633 --> 00:26:52,666
the fish in the ocean.
593
00:26:52,666 --> 00:26:54,800
And when you're doing
all of these things,
594
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,566
you begin to steward
what's around you.
595
00:26:58,566 --> 00:27:00,966
But that's not
how we live today.
596
00:27:00,966 --> 00:27:04,466
Today we live by that time
that's running on a clock,
597
00:27:04,466 --> 00:27:08,366
and how much money can we make,
you know, doing this?
598
00:27:08,366 --> 00:27:11,866
So you put profit over people.
599
00:27:12,933 --> 00:27:15,100
Wallach: Spending time with
Loretta and her family,
600
00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:18,200
it's obvious that these
concepts are not just ideas,
601
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,800
but rather principles that
inform how she lives and works
602
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,366
to pass on the ancient
ways of their people
603
00:27:24,366 --> 00:27:26,033
to the next generation.
604
00:27:26,033 --> 00:27:29,066
For her, these ways
are not just about the past,
605
00:27:29,066 --> 00:27:31,200
but about a way of being
in the present that
606
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,600
recognizes the impact
that our lives will have
607
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,366
on future generations.
608
00:27:35,366 --> 00:27:37,866
What is seventh-generation
thinking,
609
00:27:37,866 --> 00:27:39,766
and why is it
so important today?
610
00:27:39,766 --> 00:27:42,033
Do you have children?
Yes.
611
00:27:42,033 --> 00:27:47,100
OK. So can you recount
back to your beginning?
612
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:49,200
I can probably go back
two or three generations.
613
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,700
OK. It's a concept.
614
00:27:51,700 --> 00:27:53,900
And it's a loving
concept that we
615
00:27:53,900 --> 00:27:57,233
talk about
to our loved ones.
616
00:27:57,233 --> 00:27:58,866
So you make it
your business
617
00:27:58,866 --> 00:28:01,000
to know what it is
about yourself
618
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,266
that you're going
to engage in so you
619
00:28:03,266 --> 00:28:05,933
can get to that
seventh-generation thinking.
620
00:28:05,933 --> 00:28:07,766
So 7-generation
thinking
621
00:28:07,766 --> 00:28:09,533
is making decisions
as if you think
622
00:28:09,533 --> 00:28:11,033
about the impact
they will have
623
00:28:11,033 --> 00:28:13,266
on 7
generations from now?
624
00:28:13,266 --> 00:28:14,766
Exactly.
625
00:28:14,766 --> 00:28:16,300
Every decision that
I make in this moment,
626
00:28:16,300 --> 00:28:17,933
I should think
about the impact
627
00:28:17,933 --> 00:28:20,266
that it will have 7
generations from now.
628
00:28:20,266 --> 00:28:21,766
But people are--
they love convenience.
629
00:28:21,766 --> 00:28:23,333
They don't want
to think about,
630
00:28:23,333 --> 00:28:25,133
oh, 7 generations,
you know?
631
00:28:25,133 --> 00:28:28,866
But we have so many social
ills all over the nation,
632
00:28:28,866 --> 00:28:30,433
all over the country.
633
00:28:30,433 --> 00:28:33,333
And those are the things
that we're trying our best,
634
00:28:33,333 --> 00:28:37,466
I think, in this generation,
to make a difference.
635
00:28:37,466 --> 00:28:40,833
♪
636
00:28:40,833 --> 00:28:43,466
What's your hope
for the future?
637
00:28:43,466 --> 00:28:46,033
That we can all
638
00:28:43,466 --> 00:28:46,033
si
\h
t together
639
00:28:46,033 --> 00:28:48,433
at a spiritual table
640
00:28:48,433 --> 00:28:52,800
and all of us be
641
00:28:48,433 --> 00:28:52,800
to
\h
gether truly.
642
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:58,333
That's my prayer.
That's my prayer.
643
00:28:58,333 --> 00:29:02,500
♪
644
00:29:02,500 --> 00:29:04,833
Tyson: When we saw Earth
over our shoulders,
645
00:29:04,833 --> 00:29:06,500
having visited the moon,
646
00:29:06,500 --> 00:29:11,833
it was a firmware upgrade
in our sense of awareness.
647
00:29:11,833 --> 00:29:15,333
Our first images
from the moon were 1968,
648
00:29:15,333 --> 00:29:17,166
taken by astronauts.
649
00:29:17,166 --> 00:29:20,333
That was the first mission
to the moon--Apollo 8.
650
00:29:20,333 --> 00:29:22,500
They went to the moon,
orbited a dozen or so times,
651
00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:24,200
and then came back.
652
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,733
One of those orbits,
they lifted the Hasselblad,
653
00:29:26,733 --> 00:29:32,166
and there was Earth rising
over the lunar landscape,
654
00:29:32,166 --> 00:29:37,233
just the way the moon rises
over the Earth's landscape.
655
00:29:37,233 --> 00:29:39,166
Why do I call it
a firmware upgrade?
656
00:29:39,166 --> 00:29:42,266
Because if you ask
any one of those people,
657
00:29:42,266 --> 00:29:44,333
they're not
consciously thinking,
658
00:29:44,333 --> 00:29:48,166
"I saw Earth from space,"
but they're feeling it.
659
00:29:48,166 --> 00:29:52,666
Psychoemotionally,
they are reacting
660
00:29:52,666 --> 00:29:55,000
to a cosmic perspective.
661
00:29:56,333 --> 00:30:03,500
♪
662
00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:06,000
Wallach: Humans are at their
663
00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:06,000
be
\h
st when we're thinking bigger
664
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,366
than just ourselves,
when we look up and see
665
00:30:08,366 --> 00:30:11,000
beyond this moment to remember
that we are part of everything
666
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:12,733
that came before us
667
00:30:12,733 --> 00:30:14,866
and we're also laying
the foundation for generations
668
00:30:14,866 --> 00:30:16,500
yet to come.
669
00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:20,600
♪
670
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,333
But why do so many
of the systems
671
00:30:22,333 --> 00:30:24,866
that govern our world
today seem so locked
672
00:30:24,866 --> 00:30:27,066
into short-term thinking?
673
00:30:27,066 --> 00:30:30,233
I've come to Japan to meet
an economist named Dr. Saijo
674
00:30:30,233 --> 00:30:32,500
who's challenging
this way of thinking
675
00:30:32,500 --> 00:30:35,000
with remarkable results.
676
00:30:35,933 --> 00:30:37,900
So we know we have
this problem
677
00:30:37,900 --> 00:30:39,033
of shortsightedness,
678
00:30:39,033 --> 00:30:40,500
and we want
to kind of solve
679
00:30:40,500 --> 00:30:42,200
for intergenerational
justice
680
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,666
and how we think
about time differently.
681
00:30:45,666 --> 00:30:47,666
Tell me
about your work.
682
00:31:07,833 --> 00:31:09,800
Wallach: Rather than just
writing about the problems
683
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,566
with short-term thinking,
684
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,566
Dr
\h
. Saijo started something here
685
00:31:12,566 --> 00:31:15,566
called the Future Design Center
to test the impacts
686
00:31:15,566 --> 00:31:19,066
of long-term thinking
in real-life situations,
687
00:31:19,066 --> 00:31:20,900
bringing together
everyday people
688
00:31:20,900 --> 00:31:22,900
from the town
to take part in creating
689
00:31:22,900 --> 00:31:24,466
the future of their community.
690
00:31:24,466 --> 00:31:27,900
[Speaking Japanese]
691
00:31:38,833 --> 00:31:41,233
[Speaking English]
692
00:32:02,500 --> 00:32:04,966
[Speaking Japanese]
693
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,000
Wallach: Community members
put on these robes
694
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,133
to signify themselves
as representatives
695
00:32:28,133 --> 00:32:30,300
of future generations.
696
00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:33,200
With this in mind, they work
to address the needs of today,
697
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,033
but bearing in mind
the impact these actions
698
00:32:36,033 --> 00:32:38,133
will have on those
yet to be born.
699
00:32:38,133 --> 00:32:40,033
The results
have been incredible,
700
00:32:40,033 --> 00:32:42,200
like when they
achieved together
701
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,466
what traditional policymaking
had failed to address
702
00:32:44,466 --> 00:32:46,366
for years,
reaching an agreement
703
00:32:46,366 --> 00:32:49,200
to raise the community's
water tax by 6%
704
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,466
in order to address the town's
decaying infrastructure.
705
00:32:52,466 --> 00:32:55,633
Today, more than 80%
of the town's policies
706
00:32:55,633 --> 00:32:58,666
are created by citizens who
707
00:32:55,633 --> 00:32:58,666
ha
\h
ve become what they proudly
708
00:32:58,666 --> 00:33:01,066
refer to as future designers.
709
00:33:01,066 --> 00:33:03,366
I'm not even from Yahaba,
but already I feel--
710
00:33:03,366 --> 00:33:04,766
Quick.
That's right.
711
00:33:04,766 --> 00:33:06,066
It's a quick shift.
712
00:33:06,066 --> 00:33:07,866
That's right.
See in there.
713
00:33:07,866 --> 00:33:10,200
Wallach: The work that you've
designed takes people
714
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,733
from being kind of
an individual by themselves
715
00:33:13,733 --> 00:33:15,700
but instead starts
to make it like a chain.
716
00:33:15,700 --> 00:33:17,933
You see yourself as part
of something that came.
717
00:33:17,933 --> 00:33:19,233
Saijo: Yeah.
718
00:33:19,233 --> 00:33:20,966
Wallach: Then you you're here.
719
00:33:20,966 --> 00:33:22,700
But then you're connected
to something that will be.
720
00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:24,033
Saito: That's right.
721
00:33:42,533 --> 00:33:45,033
♪
722
00:33:45,033 --> 00:33:48,100
Wallach: This idea of taking
a longer-term perspective
723
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:51,533
to the challenges facing us
today is beginning
724
00:33:51,533 --> 00:33:55,266
to take shape around
the world, like in Wales,
725
00:33:55,266 --> 00:33:57,100
where they recently
turned this thinking
726
00:33:57,100 --> 00:34:00,600
into actual legislation,
appointing a new role
727
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,433
known as the future
generations commissioner.
728
00:34:04,433 --> 00:34:06,600
Howe: I'm Sophie Howe, and I was
the first future generations
729
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,766
commissioner for Wales
and the first future generations
730
00:34:09,766 --> 00:34:11,933
commissioner in the world.
731
00:34:11,933 --> 00:34:14,766
Back in 2015,
our national parliament
732
00:34:14,766 --> 00:34:16,266
passed a law called
the Well-Being
733
00:34:16,266 --> 00:34:18,166
of Future Generations Act.
734
00:34:18,166 --> 00:34:20,933
What we need to do is take
a systems approach to thinking
735
00:34:20,933 --> 00:34:23,266
about the impact
of all of our actions,
736
00:34:23,266 --> 00:34:26,266
what impacts they have today,
but crucially
737
00:34:26,266 --> 00:34:27,933
in the context of this bill,
what impact
738
00:34:27,933 --> 00:34:29,766
they have in the future.
739
00:34:29,766 --> 00:34:31,800
Howe: They held a national
conversation with the citizens
740
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,933
of Wales where they posed
the question,
741
00:34:33,933 --> 00:34:36,766
what's the Wales you want to
leave behind to your children,
742
00:34:36,766 --> 00:34:39,366
your grandchildren,
743
00:34:36,766 --> 00:34:39,366
an
\h
d future generations to come?
744
00:34:39,366 --> 00:34:42,600
That dialogue
led to the government
745
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:46,266
identifying 7
long-term well-being goals,
746
00:34:46,266 --> 00:34:48,600
and all of our
public institutions
747
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,933
must set objectives which
maximize their contribution
748
00:34:51,933 --> 00:34:53,600
to all 7 goals.
749
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,166
Are you seeing sufficient
scale and pace of progress?
750
00:34:57,166 --> 00:34:58,633
The guidance
made no reference
751
00:34:58,633 --> 00:35:01,166
to the Future
Generations Act at all.
752
00:35:01,166 --> 00:35:03,833
And this is part of
the challenge that we're seeing.
753
00:35:03,833 --> 00:35:06,166
Howe: Built into
754
00:35:03,833 --> 00:35:06,166
ou
\h
r legislation, the government
755
00:35:06,166 --> 00:35:07,833
and our other
public institutions
756
00:35:07,833 --> 00:35:10,200
have to take the advice
of the commissioner
757
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,566
or justify why not.
758
00:35:11,566 --> 00:35:14,500
And they have to
justify that publicly.
759
00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:17,366
So in Wales, because
we have this framework,
760
00:35:17,366 --> 00:35:19,333
we've completely
transformed the way
761
00:35:19,333 --> 00:35:21,600
that we're thinking
about transport planning,
762
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,533
for example, building
a new stretch of motorway
763
00:35:24,533 --> 00:35:26,266
to deal with
the problem of congestion.
764
00:35:26,266 --> 00:35:28,266
It's what we've always done.
765
00:35:28,266 --> 00:35:30,166
But the commissioner's
intervention really
766
00:35:30,166 --> 00:35:32,500
challenged the government
because you've never shifted
767
00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:35,000
your investment to actually
giving people other means
768
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,666
of transportation--more walking,
cycling, safe routes
769
00:35:39,666 --> 00:35:42,500
to those areas
770
00:35:39,666 --> 00:35:42,500
an
\h
d public transport investment
771
00:35:42,500 --> 00:35:43,866
to those areas.
772
00:35:43,866 --> 00:35:46,200
We'll start to see
air pollution reducing.
773
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,533
We'll start to see
more people cycling,
774
00:35:48,533 --> 00:35:50,033
which is good
for their health.
775
00:35:50,033 --> 00:35:51,833
The long-term impact,
of course,
776
00:35:51,833 --> 00:35:54,500
is that we want to see
an increase in life expectancy.
777
00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:56,333
So I think people
are increasingly starting
778
00:35:56,333 --> 00:35:58,000
to see those connections.
779
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,233
If we can embrace models
like we have in Wales,
780
00:36:01,233 --> 00:36:04,566
that has the potential to have
a real trickle-down effect.
781
00:36:04,566 --> 00:36:07,733
And imagine if we multiply
that by every decision
782
00:36:07,733 --> 00:36:10,900
or every approach that a public
institution or a government
783
00:36:10,900 --> 00:36:14,066
take to deciding how they're
going to roll out policy
784
00:36:14,066 --> 00:36:16,400
and encourages them to--
785
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,300
well, not just
encourages them,
786
00:36:18,300 --> 00:36:19,933
actually requires them
to join the dots
787
00:36:19,933 --> 00:36:22,133
and think in a long-term way.
788
00:36:22,133 --> 00:36:23,766
♪
789
00:36:23,766 --> 00:36:25,566
Zaidi: We struggle a lot
with long-term thinking,
790
00:36:25,566 --> 00:36:27,233
and we tend to default
to short term-thinking
791
00:36:27,233 --> 00:36:29,133
quite often.
792
00:36:29,133 --> 00:36:31,733
And so we've kind of set up
multiple aspects of society
793
00:36:31,733 --> 00:36:35,233
to work in
a short-term capacity.
794
00:36:35,233 --> 00:36:37,600
One of the first
questions I like to ask is,
795
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,400
who's benefiting from
the system being this way?
796
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:40,833
Our systems
are not really broken.
797
00:36:40,833 --> 00:36:43,733
That's a bit of a misconception
to say that.
798
00:36:43,733 --> 00:36:45,900
I think our systems
are designed to work
799
00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:47,400
exactly the way
they are.
800
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:48,466
They're just not
necessarily designed
801
00:36:48,466 --> 00:36:50,400
to work for you and I.
802
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,800
Narrator: Pollution is
803
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,800
co
\h
ntamination of the environment
804
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,566
that interferes
with the processes of life.
805
00:36:56,566 --> 00:36:58,600
In seeking a better life
on Earth,
806
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,900
man in the 20th century
has created a great technology
807
00:37:01,900 --> 00:37:06,366
at the expense of the
environment essential to life.
808
00:37:06,366 --> 00:37:08,633
Tyson: We like
identifying ourselves
809
00:37:08,633 --> 00:37:10,300
as an intelligent species.
810
00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:14,166
But who made that measurement?
We did.
811
00:37:14,166 --> 00:37:17,966
We are polluting
our environment.
812
00:37:17,966 --> 00:37:20,633
We are altering
813
00:37:20,633 --> 00:37:25,800
the very ecosystem
that we need to survive.
814
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,966
We're creating a next wave
of extinction
815
00:37:27,966 --> 00:37:31,466
across the tree of life
without knowing
816
00:37:31,466 --> 00:37:35,300
what the long-term consequences
of that might be.
817
00:37:35,300 --> 00:37:37,033
I could define
intelligence in such a way
818
00:37:37,033 --> 00:37:40,200
so that there is no sign
of it here on Earth.
819
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:47,166
My biggest fear is that, though
we call ourselves intelligent,
820
00:37:47,166 --> 00:37:53,800
that we might not be wise
enough to be the shepherds
821
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,133
we need to be
to assure the survival
822
00:37:57,133 --> 00:37:59,966
of generations yet to be born.
823
00:37:59,966 --> 00:38:01,633
Zaidi: Having anxiety
about the future
824
00:38:01,633 --> 00:38:03,733
is not an unreasonable thing.
825
00:38:03,733 --> 00:38:05,733
It's actually
very logical in some ways
826
00:38:05,733 --> 00:38:07,700
when you look
at the data around
827
00:38:07,700 --> 00:38:09,700
what we're seeing in the world.
828
00:38:09,700 --> 00:38:11,633
But the important
thing is that we have
829
00:38:11,633 --> 00:38:13,366
the opportunity to shape it.
830
00:38:13,366 --> 00:38:14,800
And the hopeful part
of that is that
831
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,100
we actually have
all the solutions we need
832
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:18,933
to address the problems.
833
00:38:18,933 --> 00:38:22,233
What we don't have is the
context for those solutions
834
00:38:22,233 --> 00:38:24,633
to take hold.
835
00:38:24,633 --> 00:38:28,866
♪
836
00:38:28,866 --> 00:38:30,633
Wallach: I'm interested
in exploring
837
00:38:30,633 --> 00:38:32,533
more of these new solutions
838
00:38:32,533 --> 00:38:34,866
and meeting the people
who are creating them.
839
00:38:34,866 --> 00:38:37,533
That led me here to New Haven,
where a former
840
00:38:37,533 --> 00:38:40,233
fisherman-turned-ocean-farmer
named Bren Smith
841
00:38:40,233 --> 00:38:43,766
has become a catalyst
842
00:38:40,233 --> 00:38:43,766
fo
\h
r change in this community.
843
00:38:43,766 --> 00:38:46,366
So, Bren, I have no idea
844
00:38:43,766 --> 00:38:46,366
wh
\h
at a regenerative
845
00:38:46,366 --> 00:38:48,533
ocean farmer is.
846
00:38:48,533 --> 00:38:50,366
So both, I want you
to tell me what it is
847
00:38:50,366 --> 00:38:52,100
and how you got into it.
Sure.
848
00:38:52,100 --> 00:38:53,700
Smith: I was born and raised
in Newfoundland, Canada,
849
00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:55,300
the edge
of North America.
850
00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:56,966
All I wanted to be
was a fisherman.
851
00:38:56,966 --> 00:38:58,533
That was my dream.
852
00:38:58,533 --> 00:38:59,866
I didn't want
to be a politician,
853
00:38:59,866 --> 00:39:01,700
didn't want to
be an astronaut.
854
00:39:01,700 --> 00:39:03,600
So I dropped out
of high school when I was 14
855
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,766
and headed out to sea
and fished the globe.
856
00:39:05,766 --> 00:39:10,433
Cod, crab, tuna--
you name it, I fished it.
857
00:39:10,433 --> 00:39:12,766
As I moved through,
the problem was,
858
00:39:12,766 --> 00:39:16,433
I was fishing at the height
of the industrial fishery
859
00:39:16,433 --> 00:39:17,700
tearing up whole
ecosystems, you know,
860
00:39:17,700 --> 00:39:19,533
the things that we know now.
861
00:39:19,533 --> 00:39:22,600
But when I was in--
out in the Bering Sea,
862
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,933
the cod stocks crashed
in Newfoundland, Canada.
863
00:39:24,933 --> 00:39:28,433
And that was such
a wake-up call
864
00:39:28,433 --> 00:39:29,833
because I thought
environmentalism
865
00:39:29,833 --> 00:39:31,966
was about birds
and bees and bears.
866
00:39:31,966 --> 00:39:35,300
And to see 30,000 people
thrown out of work,
867
00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:38,433
fishermen walking the streets
like hungry ghosts,
868
00:39:38,433 --> 00:39:40,100
an economy built up
869
00:39:40,100 --> 00:39:42,433
and a culture built up
over hundreds of years
870
00:39:42,433 --> 00:39:43,933
around a fishery,
you realize, like,
871
00:39:43,933 --> 00:39:46,800
"Oh, this isn't
about the environment.
872
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,200
"This is about the economies,
the kitchen-table issue.
873
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,266
This is that there will be
no jobs on a dead ocean."
874
00:39:52,266 --> 00:39:55,600
♪
875
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,833
Wallach: Bren's path
led him to ocean farming,
876
00:39:57,833 --> 00:40:00,500
where he now grows kelp
and trains hundreds
877
00:40:00,500 --> 00:40:03,000
of other fishermen just like him
to look at the ocean
878
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,800
in a whole new way.
879
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,433
In a time of growing concern
around land-based agriculture,
880
00:40:09,433 --> 00:40:12,166
he sees untapped
potential here at sea.
881
00:40:12,166 --> 00:40:15,766
♪
882
00:40:15,766 --> 00:40:17,333
Smith: I might
come in again here.
883
00:40:17,333 --> 00:40:19,333
Let's see, Ron.
884
00:40:19,333 --> 00:40:21,333
So I've been farming
this patch of water
885
00:40:21,333 --> 00:40:22,666
for almost 20 years.
886
00:40:22,666 --> 00:40:25,500
And what you're
looking here at
887
00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:28,133
is 10 acres
of kelp farm.
888
00:40:28,133 --> 00:40:31,266
So we have anchors
on the side of the farm
889
00:40:31,266 --> 00:40:34,200
and then just
rows of crop.
890
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,033
And the kelp is sitting
about, you know,
891
00:40:37,033 --> 00:40:39,766
6, 7 feet below the surface.
892
00:40:39,766 --> 00:40:42,366
And our job
as farmers is just to get
893
00:40:42,366 --> 00:40:45,333
the right amount
of sunlight and nutrients
894
00:40:45,333 --> 00:40:47,100
in order to grow.
895
00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:48,766
So we care about the depth
and what time of year
896
00:40:48,766 --> 00:40:51,500
we're planting,
what temperature.
897
00:40:51,500 --> 00:40:53,133
So it's just simple as can be.
898
00:40:53,133 --> 00:40:54,466
You know, I wish it
was more complicated.
899
00:40:54,466 --> 00:40:55,933
I'd seem smarter.
900
00:40:55,933 --> 00:40:57,300
But the idea is,
901
00:40:57,300 --> 00:40:58,700
when you're working
with the ocean,
902
00:40:58,700 --> 00:41:00,900
you need to be
a willow, not an oak.
903
00:41:00,900 --> 00:41:02,700
And you need
to be something
904
00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:06,333
that you can remove and
rebuild real easily.
905
00:41:10,266 --> 00:41:11,866
Ron, now--
906
00:41:11,866 --> 00:41:13,533
Hey, Ron, we got a lot
of pressure right here.
907
00:41:13,533 --> 00:41:17,000
Here we go.
Now let me clean it.
908
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,766
All right.
There we go.
909
00:41:19,766 --> 00:41:21,400
So what we're
going to do is,
910
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:22,833
you're just going
to grab a clump
911
00:41:22,833 --> 00:41:24,333
with your hand here
and cut along.
912
00:41:24,333 --> 00:41:26,500
But try to--
don't cut the rope.
913
00:41:26,500 --> 00:41:28,333
So I'd rather
you go below.
914
00:41:28,333 --> 00:41:30,100
And just lift it
on high.
915
00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:33,666
OK. OK.
Do some more here.
916
00:41:33,666 --> 00:41:35,366
I'm just
going to cut.
917
00:41:35,366 --> 00:41:38,666
Smith: The power of kelp
is that it has so many uses.
918
00:41:38,666 --> 00:41:41,566
Like, yes, we can eat it,
and we should eat it,
919
00:41:41,566 --> 00:41:43,166
and it's going to be
the center of the plate,
920
00:41:43,166 --> 00:41:45,333
because it's going
to be affordable.
921
00:41:45,333 --> 00:41:47,000
We can make it delicious.
922
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,066
There's so much creativity
in the food sector.
923
00:41:49,066 --> 00:41:51,066
You can use it
for biostimulants
924
00:41:51,066 --> 00:41:53,733
and fertilizer and
land-based ag for feed,
925
00:41:53,733 --> 00:41:56,366
cosmetics, pharmaceuticals.
926
00:41:56,366 --> 00:41:58,900
Bioplastics
is a huge industry now.
927
00:41:58,900 --> 00:42:02,300
The idea is really
to break down this sea wall
928
00:42:02,300 --> 00:42:04,066
between land
and sea farming.
929
00:42:04,066 --> 00:42:05,900
Nutrients are in the
waters--too much of it--
930
00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:08,066
like phosphorus,
nitrogen, carbon,
931
00:42:08,066 --> 00:42:09,800
all this sort of stuff.
932
00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:11,233
It's collected,
use plants to do it,
933
00:42:11,233 --> 00:42:12,333
bring it back,
and use it
934
00:42:12,333 --> 00:42:13,900
for fertilizers,
biostimulants,
935
00:42:13,900 --> 00:42:15,233
things like that
936
00:42:15,233 --> 00:42:16,633
because there are all
these micronutrients
937
00:42:16,633 --> 00:42:18,900
that apple
orchards need,
938
00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:21,400
flower farms,
all this sort of stuff,
939
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,833
that it just is
very accessible
940
00:42:23,833 --> 00:42:26,133
to the land-based
plants.
941
00:42:26,133 --> 00:42:27,900
♪
942
00:42:27,900 --> 00:42:31,733
Wallach: The old story, in terms
of humans and the sea is,
943
00:42:31,733 --> 00:42:33,433
we go out there,
we take what we want.
944
00:42:33,433 --> 00:42:36,066
We take as much as we want
as quickly as we want.
945
00:42:36,066 --> 00:42:37,666
And then go back to land,
and we consume it.
946
00:42:37,666 --> 00:42:40,233
What's the new story?
947
00:42:40,233 --> 00:42:42,733
I think it's
a great question.
948
00:42:42,733 --> 00:42:45,133
Like, we do need a story
for the future, right?
949
00:42:45,133 --> 00:42:47,600
The biggest thing--
and I think this
950
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,400
gets missed in the
climate discussion a lot--
951
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,066
is that there needs
to be a cultural transition.
952
00:42:52,066 --> 00:42:55,233
And you need to think about,
like, what motivates people.
953
00:42:55,233 --> 00:42:58,066
What fills their soul and
gets them up in the morning?
954
00:42:58,066 --> 00:42:59,833
This isn't necessarily
about money.
955
00:42:59,833 --> 00:43:02,800
And that moment,
when I was a kid, and, like,
956
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,300
wanted to be a fisherman
because they had
957
00:43:04,300 --> 00:43:06,133
self-directed lives
and the pride
958
00:43:06,133 --> 00:43:08,733
of feeding
their communities,
959
00:43:08,733 --> 00:43:10,533
that's what we need
to tap into.
960
00:43:10,533 --> 00:43:12,300
That's what motivates folks.
961
00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:14,533
And as a kelp farmer, yeah,
I've had to say good-bye
962
00:43:14,533 --> 00:43:16,333
to rogue waves
and chasing fish.
963
00:43:16,333 --> 00:43:17,366
But what I can embrace--
964
00:43:17,366 --> 00:43:18,800
I own my own boat.
965
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,633
I succeed and fail
on my own terms.
966
00:43:20,633 --> 00:43:22,300
I got to be, like,
an engineer, a scientist,
967
00:43:22,300 --> 00:43:24,666
a farmer, all this
sort of stuff at once.
968
00:43:24,666 --> 00:43:26,700
And I get to feed
the folks around me.
969
00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:28,466
These are soul-filling jobs.
970
00:43:28,466 --> 00:43:30,966
And that's the discussion
we have with fishermen.
971
00:43:30,966 --> 00:43:33,166
Like, yes, we all have to
say good-bye to some things.
972
00:43:33,166 --> 00:43:36,300
But do we get
the core of what makes us
973
00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:37,666
wake up every morning?
974
00:43:37,666 --> 00:43:39,300
And that's how you build
an army of innovation
975
00:43:39,300 --> 00:43:41,300
at the end of the day,
a blue-collar innovation.
976
00:43:41,300 --> 00:43:43,400
And quite honestly, you
get the politics right.
977
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:45,566
Like, if you can
tap into that,
978
00:43:45,566 --> 00:43:47,533
where people
see themselves
979
00:43:47,533 --> 00:43:49,500
as part
of the solution,
980
00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:51,633
then the level
of innovation
981
00:43:51,633 --> 00:43:53,900
and knowledge networks
and sharing and stuff,
982
00:43:53,900 --> 00:43:56,300
I think that's where we
transition to a better future.
983
00:43:56,300 --> 00:43:58,633
Because you just want
millions of minds
984
00:43:58,633 --> 00:44:00,366
trying to figure this out.
985
00:44:00,366 --> 00:44:03,200
But you got to tap
into the soul to do that.
986
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,700
[Gulls squawking]
987
00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:08,600
Zaidi: Sometimes it can feel
like what we do doesn't really
988
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:11,733
amount to anything or doesn't
add to the bigger picture that
989
00:44:11,733 --> 00:44:15,600
is unfolding or that we don't
have the ability to enact
990
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:17,400
change in the real world.
991
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,533
But the fact is that every
little action does add up.
992
00:44:19,533 --> 00:44:22,366
The desire to talk about these
wonderful things in the future
993
00:44:22,366 --> 00:44:24,066
that like, oh,
we'll have sustainability,
994
00:44:24,066 --> 00:44:25,700
we'll have equity,
we'll have justice,
995
00:44:25,700 --> 00:44:27,533
we'll have all
of these things,
996
00:44:27,533 --> 00:44:29,866
what we need to do is borrow
those ideas from the future
997
00:44:29,866 --> 00:44:31,366
and think about,
like, how we're
998
00:44:31,366 --> 00:44:33,366
going to implement them today.
999
00:44:33,366 --> 00:44:36,066
If you want a tree
to grow 20 years from now,
1000
00:44:36,066 --> 00:44:38,800
you have to plant a physical
seed to get that tree.
1001
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,533
What sort of
future do you want?
1002
00:44:40,533 --> 00:44:42,266
And what's
the action you can take
1003
00:44:42,266 --> 00:44:46,033
right now to enable that
future to become a reality?
1004
00:44:46,033 --> 00:44:49,033
♪
1005
00:44:49,033 --> 00:44:51,966
Wallach: This idea
of planting seeds right now
1006
00:44:51,966 --> 00:44:54,200
for better futures
is an invitation
1007
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,733
to all of us,
no matter where we are.
1008
00:44:56,733 --> 00:44:58,933
Here in the jungles
of northeast India,
1009
00:44:58,933 --> 00:45:02,100
I came to meet someone
who is doing just that,
1010
00:45:02,100 --> 00:45:04,600
leading a conservation
effort to challenge
1011
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,500
how his community thinks about
the futures they are building.
1012
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,466
Wallach: For years, I read
bout these extraordinary,
1013
00:45:26,466 --> 00:45:29,366
natural-grown bridges,
where ficus tree roots
1014
00:45:29,366 --> 00:45:31,633
are trained to grow
into living crossings,
1015
00:45:31,633 --> 00:45:34,833
lasting for hundreds of years,
connecting the villages
1016
00:45:34,833 --> 00:45:36,666
throughout the jungle.
1017
00:45:36,666 --> 00:45:39,466
Morningstar leads the effort
to preserve these bridges,
1018
00:45:39,466 --> 00:45:41,966
and with them, an ancient
way of thinking about
1019
00:45:41,966 --> 00:45:45,100
modern progress and the past.
1020
00:45:53,766 --> 00:45:55,933
Khongthaw: Building
a root bridge is, like,
1021
00:45:55,933 --> 00:45:57,800
a 1,000-year-old
traditional knowledge.
1022
00:46:07,833 --> 00:46:09,000
Wallach: Mm-hmm.
1023
00:46:19,533 --> 00:46:22,000
Wallach: So give me some facts
about the root bridges.
1024
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,000
How many of them
are there?
1025
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,433
What are
the longest one?
1026
00:46:24,433 --> 00:46:26,233
What are
the highest ones?
1027
00:46:50,233 --> 00:46:52,000
There are others
who are coming in
1028
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,700
and saying, "That's nice,
1029
00:46:53,700 --> 00:46:55,900
but we can make
a bridge with concrete."
1030
00:46:55,900 --> 00:46:58,833
What's the threat
to you,
1031
00:46:58,833 --> 00:47:00,900
your way of life,
1032
00:47:00,900 --> 00:47:02,900
and really your
way of thinking
1033
00:47:02,900 --> 00:47:05,233
when these bridges
1034
00:47:05,233 --> 00:47:07,966
kind of go up
in your community?
1035
00:47:20,900 --> 00:47:24,166
[All speaking Pynursia]
1036
00:47:24,166 --> 00:47:26,633
How are you?
Sit down, please.
1037
00:47:26,633 --> 00:47:29,466
Please, sit down.
Yes, please sit down.
1038
00:47:29,466 --> 00:47:31,566
Wallach: In addition
to his work on the bridges,
1039
00:47:31,566 --> 00:47:34,166
Morningstar travels to speak
with students in schools
1040
00:47:34,166 --> 00:47:38,400
around the region, encouraging
them to find and protect
1041
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,666
nature-based solutions
to the problems
1042
00:47:40,666 --> 00:47:42,800
facing the communities
here today
1043
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,466
and in the years to come.
1044
00:47:44,466 --> 00:47:46,566
♪
1045
00:47:46,566 --> 00:47:49,233
There's so much we can
learn from these traditions,
1046
00:47:49,233 --> 00:47:51,300
as around the world,
people are beginning
1047
00:47:51,300 --> 00:47:53,766
to rediscover
that natural solutions
1048
00:47:53,766 --> 00:47:55,733
can have profound results.
1049
00:47:55,733 --> 00:47:58,233
There are projects under way
around New York City
1050
00:47:58,233 --> 00:48:00,566
to restore oyster reefs
that offset
1051
00:48:00,566 --> 00:48:02,466
erosion along the shorelines.
1052
00:48:02,466 --> 00:48:04,466
And in cities
across China,
1053
00:48:04,466 --> 00:48:07,000
there's work being done
to enable mangroves
1054
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,166
to serve as natural
seawalls, preventing
1055
00:48:09,166 --> 00:48:11,633
flooding around major cities.
1056
00:48:11,633 --> 00:48:13,633
This is not a quick fix.
1057
00:48:13,633 --> 00:48:17,366
And the people who start these
projects, these root bridges,
1058
00:48:17,366 --> 00:48:20,633
know they are doing something
that is not just for them,
1059
00:48:20,633 --> 00:48:22,800
but it's going to be
for their kids and even--
1060
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,800
hundreds of years out.
1061
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,000
So we're,
in many ways, saying
1062
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:27,633
to both of
our communities,
1063
00:48:27,633 --> 00:48:30,166
"We're going to be in this
together for a while."
1064
00:48:54,633 --> 00:48:58,633
♪
1065
00:48:58,633 --> 00:49:03,800
Wallach: When we started this,
I was thinking
1066
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,366
that so many
of the conversations
1067
00:49:06,366 --> 00:49:09,133
would somehow revolve
around technology.
1068
00:49:09,133 --> 00:49:14,033
And yet as I talk about
what people are working on,
1069
00:49:14,033 --> 00:49:16,933
what do they want
to see happen in futures,
1070
00:49:16,933 --> 00:49:20,033
they talk about
being human again.
1071
00:49:20,033 --> 00:49:22,533
And what's most
surprising to me
1072
00:49:22,533 --> 00:49:25,300
is the desire
to kind of start making
1073
00:49:25,300 --> 00:49:29,033
some decisions about what
do we want to leave behind
1074
00:49:29,033 --> 00:49:30,866
and what do we want
to start creating
1075
00:49:30,866 --> 00:49:32,866
more of that we've lost.
1076
00:49:32,866 --> 00:49:37,733
♪
1077
00:49:37,733 --> 00:49:41,200
What, right now,
gives you hope?
1078
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,966
Hershfield: This is a wonderful
question because it's so easy.
1079
00:49:44,966 --> 00:49:49,033
It's so easy to only see
doom and gloom out there.
1080
00:49:49,033 --> 00:49:53,100
Even if we consider
the doom and gloom,
1081
00:49:53,100 --> 00:49:55,533
time still marches on.
1082
00:49:55,533 --> 00:49:58,466
There's no stopping
the progress of time.
1083
00:49:58,466 --> 00:50:01,200
So it gives me hope to
consider how we've done things
1084
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,300
in the past to make
the present better
1085
00:50:03,300 --> 00:50:05,133
and what we might be
able to do now to make
1086
00:50:05,133 --> 00:50:07,200
the future better, as well.
1087
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,366
Tyson: We are small
in time and in space,
1088
00:50:10,366 --> 00:50:13,533
participating in
a great unfolding
1089
00:50:13,533 --> 00:50:15,200
of cosmic events,
1090
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,466
a reminder that civilization
is precious,
1091
00:50:18,466 --> 00:50:21,100
life is precious.
1092
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:27,766
We should do everything
we can to preserve it
1093
00:50:27,766 --> 00:50:31,066
in this one moment
we have
1094
00:50:31,066 --> 00:50:35,033
to experience the glory
of this universe.
1095
00:50:35,033 --> 00:50:37,733
♪
1096
00:50:37,733 --> 00:50:39,133
Nature give me hope
1097
00:50:39,133 --> 00:50:41,600
because when you
look at the things
1098
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:46,066
happening in the world,
the legislative, the war,
1099
00:50:46,066 --> 00:50:47,533
and the fighting,
the clash,
1100
00:50:47,533 --> 00:50:49,866
the rivalry,
the protests,
1101
00:50:49,866 --> 00:50:52,533
it's about, you know--
about human beings.
1102
00:50:52,533 --> 00:50:56,433
So, for me, the most
important thing about nature
1103
00:50:56,433 --> 00:51:00,433
give me hope because
the way you see nature,
1104
00:51:00,433 --> 00:51:03,000
you know, it's a good
thing to learn from nature.
1105
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,766
So just go to nature
and sit there.
1106
00:51:05,766 --> 00:51:09,600
See the animals. See the ants.
See the birds. See the bees.
1107
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,766
Just learn from them,
and then come back.
1108
00:51:11,766 --> 00:51:14,600
It will change your life.
1109
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,833
Smith: You know, we can build
something from the bottom up
1110
00:51:16,833 --> 00:51:19,666
that we're proud of that's
beautiful that we can, like,
1111
00:51:19,666 --> 00:51:21,433
point to this moment
being, like,
1112
00:51:21,433 --> 00:51:23,766
"Yeah, we built
something to hand to you.
1113
00:51:23,766 --> 00:51:28,100
We started this for you.
Now you continue it."
1114
00:51:28,100 --> 00:51:32,133
Saijo: 10 centuries later,
when we open up
1115
00:51:32,133 --> 00:51:34,600
a kind of history book,
1116
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,766
imagine, then,
are we the people
1117
00:51:37,766 --> 00:51:41,100
who destroyed our entire Earth?
1118
00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:44,600
That's the reason
1119
00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:44,600
wh
\h
y, see, we are short of food,
1120
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,100
we are short of energy.
1121
00:51:47,100 --> 00:51:49,766
We don't want to be that
kind of ancestor, right?
1122
00:51:49,766 --> 00:51:51,600
Wallach: Uh-huh.
1123
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:55,700
Saijo: Please think about
embracing our future.
1124
00:51:55,700 --> 00:51:58,600
That's my message.
1125
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,166
Wallach: For the first time
in human history,
1126
00:52:01,166 --> 00:52:03,400
we are now grappling
with a set of issues,
1127
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,166
a set of decisions that we
have to make that will have
1128
00:52:06,166 --> 00:52:10,833
long-term consequences for
Homo sapiens, for our species,
1129
00:52:10,833 --> 00:52:12,666
and for this planet.
1130
00:52:12,666 --> 00:52:14,900
If we want to think about
where we might be able to go
1131
00:52:14,900 --> 00:52:17,033
tomorrow, what could happen,
and what do we want to see
1132
00:52:17,033 --> 00:52:20,166
happen, it's important for
1133
00:52:17,033 --> 00:52:20,166
us
\h
to be able to kind of look
1134
00:52:20,166 --> 00:52:23,666
back and see ourselves as
part of something much larger.
1135
00:52:23,666 --> 00:52:25,533
If we really want
to move forward,
1136
00:52:25,533 --> 00:52:27,500
we have to be
curious about what
1137
00:52:27,500 --> 00:52:29,766
those different forwards and
those futures could look like.
1138
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:58,900
♪
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