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some sexy models now it's men with
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earrings and converted warehouse studios
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in the East End this one's doing photo
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realism style that was invented 35 years
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ago in New York and died out soon after
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what's he doing again for let's go on
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prowling moodily through this modern art
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studio of nowadays interpreting the
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signs of the big no the first two
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letters of nowadays no to genius no to
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beauty no to art where you can tell
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what's happening here's a modern artist
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who's made some paintings of words to go
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with a sculpture of a full-stop she's
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gonna be showing both Tate Gallery
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Modern Art today is full of words and
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full of sounds this slightly menacing
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horror music sound like soundtrack for a
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modern art program is actually some
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modern art being made by this artist
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who's also just had a show hey look it's
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a painting by me I painted it at art
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school it's cosmic apart and now it's
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gonna be me talking I wonder I'm gonna
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say why is it when we think of modern
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art the art of today but we don't think
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of this anymore a genius artists in this
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studio drawing a nude woman with
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charcoal what happened to make that idea
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of art an old hat idea this is my studio
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in Derbyshire Street in Bethnal Green
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I share it with a load of other artists
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who also never draw the model and you
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mostly have never seen a nude woman in
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an artist's studio outside of Hollywood
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films about van Gogh or Michelangelo at
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this moment they're upstairs or along
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the corridor testing out every activity
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Under the Sun except life drawing to see
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if it could be art at another moment
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behind a cloud of sexy girl was smoked
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in a studio along the great dark
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corridor of time is a real genius with a
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big pen the biggest pen of all the pen
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of Pablo drawing a face
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war bad Picasso said peace good that was
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the 1950s the time when I was born
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when Picasso was a communist because it
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was a time when modern art really stood
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for something and a scribble and a line
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and a few dots by Picasso could seem to
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sum up everything nobody laughed at his
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solution to world conflict but they did
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sometimes cry about his drawing why a
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child of six could do it
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royal academicians cried I hated Picasso
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and everything knew they wanted
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everything to be old again but now it's
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the 90s I'm in my forties it's a whole
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different world today modern art is a
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real pig a pig sawn in half with the
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chainsaw and suspended in a vitrine of
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formaldehyde or it's a photo of a
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blankly staring post feminist woman of
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the 90s or a tenth by another woman
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artist embroidered with the names of
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everyone she's ever slept with or the
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London Tube map but with all the names
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of the station's changed to nonsense
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footballers instead of Jubilee line
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stops philosophers instead of the circle
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line
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so that's modern art now and what I'm
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going to be doing over the next six
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weeks this modern art series called this
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is modern art and a kind of I run it
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doubtful way because no one knows what
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modern art really is it's traveling
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through time looking at the modern art
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of the past and back again to the modern
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art of today to see what the past has to
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say about the present and what the
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present has to say about the past this
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is what the inside of my head looks like
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like a Museum of Modern Art of the mine
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there's some abstract expressionism
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later I'm going to be looking at three
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giant turning points in the history of
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modern art all coming out of this place
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the real Museum of Modern Art in New
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York huge white magnificent anyone who's
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ever been there will know the sheer
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confidence of the display the scale of
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it the feeling of authority and
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credibility that it has New Yorkers go
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around with that model of Modern Art in
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their heads more or less not the ones on
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crack of course because Americans want
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this kind of art it answers a need
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what is this need exactly modern art is
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a mixture of snob culture and amazing
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open-mindedness
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back Andy Warhol modern art is a system
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but one that's always changing
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Warhol stands for one of its big changes
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later on we're going to be meeting him
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plus two more geniuses move the
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parameters of Modern Art
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this is the first one big cigar of
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modernity the castle
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this is Picasso's the Demoiselles Avenue
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lady misil davon yo is the picture at
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the beginning of all modern art books
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it's the picture that started cubism
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hardly a picture at all it's a monster
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picture a parody of a picture painted in
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one way and then half painted over in a
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different way without caring if the
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seams show five ugly angry glaring
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prostitutes in a brothel with their
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armpits showing and they're blank
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indifferent dead faces staring out or
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the primitive doglike African mask faces
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from the eyebrows out to the folds of
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the curtains everything irritates
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everything else everything is spiky and
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jostling as if it's the painting not the
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women glaring out like an ugly angry
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shocking exciting art joke when I first
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saw this picture in a book at about age
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17 I didn't think this is cubism I
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thought this is modern art the hard
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stuff
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Sara Lucas defiant woman of the nineties
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icon of young British art up against the
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wall defiantly redefining what it means
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to be modern this abject wretched
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stocking monster called bunny which
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Lucas made in 1997 is the sister of Lady
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Michelle Davin or only seventy years
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younger than them Picasso with somebody
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identify with I mean just in terms of
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the amount of sex in his work I suppose
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that's subject or event the way they
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would transform say fruit or even just
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lines that on break up a face in a
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certain way so that you can see a penis
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and your something like that and like
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where he turns a pair of handlebars into
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a pair of horns I'd say come very close
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to the kind of transformation I'm using
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little real objects to stamp something
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else dumb things transforming in the
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mind this sculpture is a 1990s tone of
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jokey contempt nevertheless it's a work
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that comes at the end of an art timeline
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that begins with Lady Michelle Devon
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young it's art that would be impossible
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without Picasso it laughs at the cult of
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the macho but it respects the thing that
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the sex myth of Picasso really stands
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for Picasso's cult of change of
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Perpetual renewal my mind he's kind of
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stands for only artists who manage to
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carry on changing and um rather than
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just kind of reiterating their own work
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and the freshest work being when they
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were younger so that's one of the things
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I've really admired I'm
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I find Picasso very moving not
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disconnected from my world but part of
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it what does he stand for he stands for
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ceaseless creativity not caring not
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being snobbish having his own sister
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never being polite
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on the other hand he also stands for a
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kind of atrophying of the restless
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modern-art mind where whenever his name
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is mentioned tasteful music starts up
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and we stop thinking
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the Picasso Museum in Paris it's not an
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unfamiliar sight on television and a
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presenter waddling about it waving his
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arms around it's not unknown either
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so how do you make this old art subject
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new well for one thing you can knowledge
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that we live in a world where artists
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like Tracey Emin and Sarah Lucas are our
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stars and where cubism is no more
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important than any other ISM and no ism
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is all that important and consequently
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for different people with different
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interests there are a lot of different
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Picasso's there's the genius andy is
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that no one could be here with the
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energy of this art are not feeling was a
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genius of some kind but there's also the
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absurd decadent rich person who could
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buy a chateau for the price of a drawing
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and the old macho outdated sex monster
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obsessively fixated on the image of the
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artist alone in the studio with a naked
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female model the woman rendered again
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and again as a kind of hilarious
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exploded oddly fide beautifully painted
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male sex fantasy sex and death
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Picasso's great themes this is a picture
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of his friend who committed suicide from
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unrequited love kassig Amos done when
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young Picasso hadn't become a genius yet
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but was just passing already existing
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styles from Van Gogh to Toulouse Lautrec
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everyone knows Picasso's blue period
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informed art world people think it's a
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bit sentimental everyone else loves it
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because it's sentimental it's the stuff
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after they're not sure about the genius
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stuff when Picasso first painted led
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Emma's old Evan yo in 1906 when he was
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only 27 he rolled it up in a corner of
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the studio because he didn't know what
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it was even his friends didn't like it
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Georges Braque said looking at it was
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like being made to drink petrol but then
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gradually Picasso and Braque came to
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acknowledge it as the prototype for
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cubism it isn't interesting to think
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about cubism as an ism anymore but it is
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interesting to think about what it
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actually did it made the painting more
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important than the picture it made
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inventing more important than copying it
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meant reality could be gutted and boned
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and put back
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gather again as something else as art
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Picasso never made art from nature he
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just made it out of his head he made it
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up he held on to reality only to have
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something to push around the Casa was
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the first to think cubism was a boring
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idea almost as soon as he invented it a
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whole school of academic Cubist's
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started up they stopped putting the eyes
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on the side of the head and started
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putting them in the right place for a
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while
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that was his neoclassical period of the
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1920s but then he put them in the wrong
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place again
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and after that just switch back and
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forth stylistically all the time from
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smoothed out to jagged from wildly
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distorted to calm from angry to funny
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from ugly to beautiful
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Picasso the genius lover of many women
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destroyer of them step her over of their
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distorted and Cuba fide bodies I don't
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despise the corny myths of Picasso the
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ego monster mr. loved pants but I know
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they're not the art they're just the
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Hello magazine version and I'm only faux
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hello I think there's a real Picasso and
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it's in these real shapes and bodies the
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bits and pieces that make up this art
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this is the Picasso system in operation
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it's here in this museum but it's in our
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heads to art's new systems of now and
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mutations of his old system of then
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here we are on the lovely Riviera
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looking for the essential Picasso
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Picasso was always changing when he was
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in his sixties the new model was
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Mediterranean Picasso the Mediterranean
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is timeless classical ancient all about
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sensuous timeless pleasure only Picasso
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could mix all this up with aggressive
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modernity after the war he was given
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this museum of local culture in Antibes
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to use as a studio modern art was hated
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by fascists so it must be good for peace
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it was thought Picasso became France's
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official expresser of the new post-war
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happiness he roamed the building taking
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down the old official art and replacing
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it with smiling triangles his paintings
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here aren't particularly well-known but
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they're the sublime playful side of
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Picasso
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these are modest masterpieces of
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ordinary life the pleasures of the
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domestic and the everyday to me they're
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the awesome achievements of modern art
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full of details of real things real
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things changed into painting things
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modernity with Picasso is Picasso's
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schwate vivre let loose frolic II and
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funny and feeling good without caring
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what others think but of course he
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didn't have to care because a big
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support system of mythology and market
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was doing all that for him this was
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another modern art system that Picasso
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invented the system of the modern artist
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as entrepreneur and showman
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Mediterranean Picasso is Picasso number
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two in the various mythologies of
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Picasso Picasso rich guy in his old age
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lived a magnificent rich bohemian life
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in the South of France
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moving from villa to villa filling them
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up with new creations watching wrestling
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on the TV
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having Gary Cooper around to visit his
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favorite film star he was thought to be
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the highest-paid man alive called
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himself a communist but Moscow called
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him a decadent
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he didn't care though when he wasn't
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painting he was out making sculptures
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that change the language of sculpture
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forever and ceramics that made him laugh
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he was full of beans he thought if he
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never stood still he could live forever
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that was what drove him but that's one
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thing modern art can't do
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this is almost the last picture he ever
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painted a self-portrait from the year he
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died it was 1973 Picasso was 92 modern
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art wasn't just Picasso anymore it had
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been taken over by New York what a
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picture
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Picasso is always dead for us it's part
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of his myth he died he stared death in
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the face before he went he was
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trepidatious guilty but all the lives it
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stepped on and destroyed on his path to
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genius
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New York started taking over modern art
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in the Second World War by the 1950s the
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job was complete Picasso is still
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producing but not progressing it was
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thought in New York progress was the big
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thing now but who could be the sign of
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progress who could be as big as Picasso
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but have the necessary newness Jackson
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Pollock artist of the abstract rip
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doomed forever to be a cliche what do we
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see when we see a Jackson Pollock we see
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what Pollock stands for Jackson Pollock
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stands for freedom self-expression and
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being American and for a particular
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American financial success story we see
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money building up this painting autumn
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rhythm failed to sell at all when it was
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first shown in 1950 even though the
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asking price was only twelve hundred
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dollars after Paulette died it was
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offered by a dealer to the Museum of
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Modern Art for $8,000 and they were
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appalled at the price then it was
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offered again for 30,000 and they didn't
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even reply to the letter
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eventually the Metropolitan Museum
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bought it for 20,000 a trustee said a
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painting this big must be worth
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something 20 years later in the mid 70s
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the combined value of all Pollock's
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works in public and private collections
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was estimated to be 50 million dollars
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because he was a giant of American art
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what else do we see we see the whole
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tragedy of Pollock's life towards the
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end of it he couldn't paint at all he
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was a depressed alcoholic he was violent
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he used to punch people if they punched
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him back which they often did he used to
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cry he had terrible in security he
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thought he was a phony and a sellout but
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the papers saw him as a macho primitive
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hard man the tough guy who said I don't
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paint nature I am nature but what are we
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seeing just the look of it the sheer
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feminine beauty of whatever it is the
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image or the rhythm its containment
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cross all those yards the energy and
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facility and delicacy the pain the way
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it sits on the surface of the canvas but
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sinks in at the same time the way it's
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flat and spacial at the same time all
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that ease and grace the illusion of
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something that's been made on instinct
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alone what a weird mix of elements makes
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up our idea of what Jackson Pollock is
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the romantic myth of the tortured artist
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I like it because I'm a bit romantic
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myself I started coming to New York a
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lot in the early 80s drawn by the allure
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of the hip the hip up-to-date
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cutting-edge art that was being churned
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out here all the time then but often
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found myself secretly yearning for the
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old stuff the abstract expressionist
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stuff
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the Abstract Expressionists moment was
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the 1950s it was an existential moment
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it was all deep anguished pained
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late-night soul-searching there was a
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life of woozi Busey semi intellectual or
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intermittently intellectual existential
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loneliness this is the cedar tavern New
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York's famous bar where Jackson Pollock
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and the Abstract Expressionists used to
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come and drink in the 1950s actually
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it's not the cedar but a remake put up
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after the original tavern burnt down in
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1963 to this day people still come here
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in search of the abstract expressionist
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myth expecting to find it steaming off
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the tables perhaps come out and fight
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the Abstract Expressionists used to
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growl at each other when they met here
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they'd rip the doors off the hinges
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Jackson Pollock actually did that one
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night they punch each other and insult
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each other and say I'm more sincere than
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you or I'm more authentic than you or
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I'm more existentially tortured than you
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or I've had all your women which was one
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famous insult that the art critic
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Clement Greenberg was supposed to have
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hurled at the painter Willem de Kooning
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in a drunken brawl like many of these
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myths it turned out to be only partly
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true as Greenberg later revealed there
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was only one of de Kooning's women he
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liked and that was de Kooning's wife
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Elaine de Kooning but in all this macho
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comedy there was tragedy and there was
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pay fuss and that was what was going on
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in Jackson Pollock's head it was a very
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angry person a very unhappy person he'd
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be very subdued running the sober but
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when he had when he got drunk found the
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aggression would come out and he would
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be very very difficult very aggressive
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when he going to the seat of I'd say you
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[ __ ] [ __ ] you think you're painters
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you don't know what anything is
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self-destructiveness was overwhelming
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Pollock Sartre was a mystery art of pure
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abstraction there was nothing in it
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except art it made sense to him as a
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natural development from the Picasso
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system but he found the process of
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getting it over to the public by playing
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up to the media
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mad making it resulted in a Polock who
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was alienated from himself nowadays we
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find it normal for modern art to be in
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the papers a lot and for the stories
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about it to be all exaggeration and
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rubbish from outright jeering to
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accolade overdrive but that was all new
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in Pollock's time
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his escape from art world hysteria was
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his home here in East Hampton three
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hours drive from Manhattan he lived here
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with his wife the artist Lee Krasner
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every week he went into New York to see
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his analyst to hang around with artists
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and critics and then he came back here
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to paint and to worry worried about who
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he was and what his status was why was
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he so popular anyway he was thought to
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be a wild painter he painted on the
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floor because he was wild
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he used cheap household paints because
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it was rough and tough in fact he used
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quite expensive household paints because
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they got the effect he wanted he got the
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paint out of the tins onto the canvas in
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big sweeping loops using sticks are old
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dried-up hardened brushes but he didn't
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just get it all on there at once
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he worked in stages building up an image
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it isn't wild art it's deliberate
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sophisticated art it's good art but
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there is wildness in it and that's why
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it's great art spontaneity chance
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ugliness are all definitely in there
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making something new something graceful
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and delicate and odd which even today we
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can't quite pin down however blase we
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think we are about the myth of Jackson
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Pollock
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you
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this is the real Pollock really painting
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but it's also the mythic Pollock
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painting for the camera like Picasso
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playing to the camera Picasso is at ease
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with being a showman but Pollock wasn't
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perhaps because it was the wrong show
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thing I always think it's odd how
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delicate everything looks here one tough
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it all is by the time this film was made
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Pollock's dream of art had started to
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turn into a nightmare nothing was real
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everything was constructed around him I
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don't think that he had a terribly large
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ego but he performed a lot in order to
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get attention he wasn't an intellectual
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he was he was charming and attractive
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but very shy actually not a big ladies
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man that only really dominated him you
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know he was submissive and she was
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aggressive she was aggressive in all her
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relationships but he had this old barn
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for a studio but Lee had to work
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upstairs in a small room you're her
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painting that's true but that was her
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choice I mean she was thought that
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Jackson was a great painter a great
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artist and she devoted herself to that
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proposition what Lee did she decided
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that if he had some success that he
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would have more confidence and he
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wouldn't get into these terrible
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depressions and drinking and so on and I
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think it started out well when they
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moved here and it really worked out very
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well for a while she cultivated everyone
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who could be helpful to him
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the worldly way and rather isolated him
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from his real friends and I think that
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was a mistake as artificial as it is I
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think this famous film is the most
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touching film ever of an artist working
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was a very unnatural self-conscious
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awkward process to make it but every
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image of Pollock is full of tenderness
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he agreed to paint on glass so the
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camera could be literally within a
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picture developing Pollock had been on
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the wagon for two years but he was
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driven back to drink by the pressure of
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making this film at the end of the last
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day of shooting he knocked back tumblers
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of whiskey and started shoving the film
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maker and snappeth you're a phony he
550
00:26:54,610 --> 00:26:58,860
shouted I'm not a phony you're a phony
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00:27:00,450 --> 00:27:05,999
but the fact is that the film was a lie
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00:27:02,850 --> 00:27:08,669
in his drunken rage with mammoth [ __ ]
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00:27:05,999 --> 00:27:11,039
was expressing a real anxiety he really
554
00:27:08,669 --> 00:27:24,090
couldn't work anymore it reached a point
555
00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:25,590
where his ideas were just dried up by
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00:27:24,090 --> 00:27:27,480
the mid fifties Pollock had had
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exhibitions in New York and all over
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00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:32,159
Europe his art was argued about by the
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most powerful critics in America
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it'd been on the cover of Life magazine
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he was world famous and yet he didn't
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00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:42,629
know where to go he said he'd been in
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00:27:38,669 --> 00:27:44,249
life but all he knew about was death he
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00:27:42,629 --> 00:27:46,799
didn't know what was happening to him he
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00:27:44,249 --> 00:27:49,289
was disoriented he was in despair he
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told Lee to think of his eraser bility
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00:27:49,289 --> 00:27:55,139
his violence his drinking as a storm
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that it would soon blow over and then on
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the night of the 11th of August 1956 it
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00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:05,279
did Lee was in Europe [ __ ] was in a
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car with Ruth Kligman his lover and
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Edith Metzker Ruth's friend it was an
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Oldsmobile it just got an exchange for
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00:28:10,499 --> 00:28:15,419
two small paintings Pollock was driving
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and he was drunk he was driving at 80
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00:28:15,419 --> 00:28:19,980
miles an hour a car came to a curve in
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the road a spot Holland knew very well
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00:28:19,980 --> 00:28:24,960
because it was only a few yards from his
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house but he failed to slow down instead
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00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:30,359
the car sped into a group of oak trees
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it ran up one of the trees and flipped
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over
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Edith Metzger had been in the back
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hanging onto the safety strap calling
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out to Pollock to slow down was rammed
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into the trunk of the car and crushed to
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00:28:39,299 --> 00:28:43,109
death Kligman and Pollock were each
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00:28:41,429 --> 00:28:45,210
thrown from the car
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Kligerman suffered a fractured pelvis
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00:28:45,210 --> 00:28:50,239
but Pollock collided with a tree
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00:28:47,549 --> 00:28:50,239
headfirst
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00:28:53,100 --> 00:29:02,260
it was too sensitive to criticism that
593
00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:04,920
was bad I think he was someone so so he
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00:29:02,260 --> 00:29:11,130
had no skin to protect him you know
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00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:15,040
everything would would get out him and I
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00:29:11,130 --> 00:29:20,470
think that the success was both good and
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00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:22,600
bad because he had gained confidence but
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00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:24,460
it was always exaggerated you know that
599
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:29,520
he was the only painter and all that
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00:29:24,460 --> 00:29:29,520
which still was obviously insecure
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00:29:37,060 --> 00:29:42,350
why do I not care about all the Picasso
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00:29:39,890 --> 00:29:44,660
myths so much but want all the Pollock
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00:29:42,350 --> 00:29:46,940
myths there's so many things already in
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00:29:44,660 --> 00:29:49,820
Picasso's art so few in Jackson
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00:29:46,940 --> 00:29:53,090
Pollock's just a misty space a sublime
606
00:29:49,820 --> 00:29:54,890
nothingness we want the sublime but we
607
00:29:53,090 --> 00:29:57,770
want it to be attached to something if
608
00:29:54,890 --> 00:30:00,440
it's Tanner we want a storm at sea with
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00:29:57,770 --> 00:30:02,810
Pollock we want the car crash we feel
610
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:05,390
we're really getting something then the
611
00:30:02,810 --> 00:30:16,040
last big story of Pollock's life its
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00:30:05,390 --> 00:30:18,620
descent into chaos and death welcome
613
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:21,800
back to the modern art tour this is
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00:30:18,620 --> 00:30:24,820
Planet hotdog continent burger the
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00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,820
country candy
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00:30:26,309 --> 00:30:34,469
what's this got to do with art or we
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00:30:28,979 --> 00:30:38,009
landed wrong place Coney Island a
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00:30:34,469 --> 00:30:40,559
complete art free zone there aren't any
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00:30:38,009 --> 00:30:44,969
big ideas here just fantastic
620
00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:47,580
blow pot mass drops who is responsible
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for collapsing this stuff into the world
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00:30:47,580 --> 00:30:54,929
of high culture one man Andy do you feel
623
00:30:52,529 --> 00:30:58,559
that the public has insulted your art uh
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00:30:54,929 --> 00:31:01,080
no why not uh oh I hadn't thought about
625
00:30:58,559 --> 00:31:04,919
it it doesn't bother you at all VIN
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00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:06,509
uh no Andy do you think that pop art has
627
00:31:04,919 --> 00:31:09,599
sort of reached the point where it's
628
00:31:06,509 --> 00:31:11,820
becoming repetitious now all right yes
629
00:31:09,599 --> 00:31:15,629
do you think it should break away from
630
00:31:11,820 --> 00:31:19,309
being pop art no are you just going to
631
00:31:15,629 --> 00:31:19,309
carry on yes
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00:31:28,380 --> 00:31:34,720
here's Warhol with his icons of modern
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00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:37,600
life modern celebrity modern glamour
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00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,520
modern sexiness when I first saw a
635
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,830
Warhol like everyone else probably I
636
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:45,610
couldn't see why it was art was a photo
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00:31:41,830 --> 00:31:47,500
show we hear about his great color and
638
00:31:45,610 --> 00:31:50,920
he is great at that but what we first
639
00:31:47,500 --> 00:31:54,430
see are things objects soup cans or
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00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:58,120
Marilyn Monroe or Jackie Kennedy Jackie
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00:31:54,430 --> 00:32:02,020
multiplied by a million its Gideon Liz
642
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:04,390
Taylor why is that heart when Warhol was
643
00:32:02,020 --> 00:32:06,220
first becoming famous he was asked what
644
00:32:04,390 --> 00:32:09,370
he thought about Abstract Expressionism
645
00:32:06,220 --> 00:32:11,470
he just said art is dead did he think he
646
00:32:09,370 --> 00:32:12,760
had killed our himself or did it just
647
00:32:11,470 --> 00:32:14,860
die on its own
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00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,200
we certainly associate his name with a
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00:32:14,860 --> 00:32:20,350
big question mark hanging over it after
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00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:23,290
Marilyn's in 1962 he painted a lot of
651
00:32:20,350 --> 00:32:25,510
Elvis Presley's in 1963 he painted
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00:32:23,290 --> 00:32:29,050
double Elvis's and single Elvis's and
653
00:32:25,510 --> 00:32:34,060
triple Elvis's this one his 11 Elvis's
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00:32:29,050 --> 00:32:36,850
all different and all the same he
655
00:32:34,060 --> 00:32:39,220
painted the whole series very quickly he
656
00:32:36,850 --> 00:32:40,990
painted 50 of them in an afternoon but
657
00:32:39,220 --> 00:32:43,060
the studio was leaking and they were
658
00:32:40,990 --> 00:32:45,940
spoiled slightly so just painted them
659
00:32:43,060 --> 00:32:47,890
all again all the things that in the
660
00:32:45,940 --> 00:32:51,130
abstract expressionist days were assumed
661
00:32:47,890 --> 00:32:53,170
to justify art's difficulty its
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00:32:51,130 --> 00:32:56,110
specialness its sensitivity its
663
00:32:53,170 --> 00:32:59,770
unrepeatable 'ti its complexity and
664
00:32:56,110 --> 00:33:01,960
depth he was happy to throw away being
665
00:32:59,770 --> 00:33:05,380
famous and being recognized he thought
666
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:07,210
were better it's one thing to have that
667
00:33:05,380 --> 00:33:08,890
thought and the people he hung out with
668
00:33:07,210 --> 00:33:11,080
had thoughts like that all the time
669
00:33:08,890 --> 00:33:13,450
because they were stoned or drunk
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00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:16,840
but what Warhol was good at was showing
671
00:33:13,450 --> 00:33:19,690
what that thought might actually look
672
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:24,010
like he had always been interested in
673
00:33:19,690 --> 00:33:25,540
glamour from the time of seeing movies
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00:33:24,010 --> 00:33:27,940
from Hollywood in the photo play
675
00:33:25,540 --> 00:33:31,180
magazines he always thought there was
676
00:33:27,940 --> 00:33:36,760
such a great glamor and magic about
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00:33:31,180 --> 00:33:39,220
being a star and I think he
678
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,260
directed himself to find out what was
679
00:33:39,220 --> 00:33:43,180
glamour you know and how could I put it
680
00:33:41,260 --> 00:33:45,790
in a can and then just paint it around
681
00:33:43,180 --> 00:33:48,150
actually paint glamour in a room or on a
682
00:33:45,790 --> 00:33:48,150
canvas
683
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,510
Warhol famously came from the wrong side
684
00:33:51,740 --> 00:33:56,540
of the tracks where there wasn't any
685
00:33:53,510 --> 00:33:59,210
glamour this is Pittsburgh where Warhol
686
00:33:56,540 --> 00:34:00,920
was born in 1928 he lived here with his
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00:33:59,210 --> 00:34:02,510
mother and father who came over from
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00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,430
Czechoslovakia and you could hardly
689
00:34:02,510 --> 00:34:07,100
speak any English and his two brothers
690
00:34:04,430 --> 00:34:12,590
John and Paul it was a simple
691
00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:14,750
working-class life Warhol was always ill
692
00:34:12,590 --> 00:34:19,310
as a child and read movie magazines in
693
00:34:14,750 --> 00:34:23,140
bed and their chocolates I used to go
694
00:34:19,310 --> 00:34:25,580
out and buy him move movie star
695
00:34:23,140 --> 00:34:28,640
magazines you know different theater
696
00:34:25,580 --> 00:34:32,419
magazines which he got three faun
697
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:36,350
doggies to cut out the pictures and then
698
00:34:32,419 --> 00:34:38,780
later on he says Paul how can I get some
699
00:34:36,350 --> 00:34:40,880
of these movie stars autograph yeah now
700
00:34:38,780 --> 00:34:43,700
and I says well I'll write to him you
701
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:47,179
know so I wrote a lot of movie stars and
702
00:34:43,700 --> 00:34:49,040
a lot of them responded especially like
703
00:34:47,179 --> 00:34:52,340
Shirley temple's she sent them an
704
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:55,460
eight-by-ten photographed Andrew Arjona
705
00:34:52,340 --> 00:35:09,410
from Shirley Temple you know he prized
706
00:34:55,460 --> 00:35:10,640
that when I talked to Paul I don't feel
707
00:35:09,410 --> 00:35:12,710
it's all that different to talking to
708
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,840
anyone he doesn't know who Warhol was
709
00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:17,090
any more than anyone else because the
710
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:21,640
artificial genius war hole that every
711
00:35:17,090 --> 00:35:25,090
one more or less knows is all he knows -
712
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,090
I'm calling
713
00:35:27,330 --> 00:35:32,850
a Warhol killed off his real self to
714
00:35:30,690 --> 00:35:34,620
make room for his art self-made
715
00:35:32,850 --> 00:35:37,080
production line art because that was
716
00:35:34,620 --> 00:35:39,180
America and made himself into a parody
717
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,490
genius because that was art that was
718
00:35:39,180 --> 00:35:44,490
bacastow and jetsam Pollock geniuses
719
00:35:41,490 --> 00:35:47,310
have expressed themselves Warhol made a
720
00:35:44,490 --> 00:35:49,620
new self to fit the new world expressing
721
00:35:47,310 --> 00:35:51,210
his new artificial self his brainwashed
722
00:35:49,620 --> 00:35:53,550
American consumer itself
723
00:35:51,210 --> 00:35:55,260
he was vividly expressing the world he
724
00:35:53,550 --> 00:36:02,790
was the world in all its ordinariness
725
00:35:55,260 --> 00:36:04,830
and strangeness he had to keep the new
726
00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:07,050
invented self going though he had his
727
00:36:04,830 --> 00:36:09,120
own manual which he wrote himself his
728
00:36:07,050 --> 00:36:12,390
famous book and he Warhol's philosophy
729
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:14,010
from A to B leaned back again enjoyed it
730
00:36:12,390 --> 00:36:15,390
with his student and expect on the
731
00:36:14,010 --> 00:36:17,370
coming round one of his aisles and
732
00:36:15,390 --> 00:36:20,430
reading extracts from it at any moment
733
00:36:17,370 --> 00:36:23,250
this ironic easy-listening soundtrack is
734
00:36:20,430 --> 00:36:25,440
anything to go by when you want to be
735
00:36:23,250 --> 00:36:27,390
like something it means you really love
736
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,580
it when you want to be like a rock you
737
00:36:27,390 --> 00:36:34,830
really love that book I love plastic
738
00:36:29,580 --> 00:36:36,780
idols what makes a painting beautiful is
739
00:36:34,830 --> 00:36:39,720
the way the paint's put on but I don't
740
00:36:36,780 --> 00:36:41,490
understand how women put on makeup it
741
00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:43,890
gets on your lips and it's so heavy
742
00:36:41,490 --> 00:36:46,470
lipstick and makeup and powder and
743
00:36:43,890 --> 00:36:50,010
shadow creams and jewelry it's also
744
00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:51,570
heavy I have a fantasy about money and
745
00:36:50,010 --> 00:36:54,600
walking down the streets and I hear
746
00:36:51,570 --> 00:36:58,200
somebody say in a whisper there goes the
747
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:59,820
richest person in the world Andy always
748
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,380
said everything more everything is on
749
00:36:59,820 --> 00:37:03,210
the surface just look there and you'll
750
00:37:01,380 --> 00:37:06,690
see everything that's there he didn't
751
00:37:03,210 --> 00:37:13,320
have an intention to be heavy materials
752
00:37:06,690 --> 00:37:14,310
wise or to be deep image wise he liked
753
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:18,540
being surface
754
00:37:14,310 --> 00:37:20,460
he was audacious and somehow he knew
755
00:37:18,540 --> 00:37:20,940
that what he was doing was right on
756
00:37:20,460 --> 00:37:23,070
point
757
00:37:20,940 --> 00:37:26,390
it was always exactly what needed to be
758
00:37:23,070 --> 00:37:28,620
done at that exact time and it was
759
00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:32,300
beyond being hip
760
00:37:28,620 --> 00:37:32,300
and call even it was genius
761
00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:50,690
you
762
00:37:53,290 --> 00:37:58,450
Wahl is sometimes thought of as a light
763
00:37:56,260 --> 00:38:00,640
and breezy artist sometimes as a rather
764
00:37:58,450 --> 00:38:03,040
dark one I think of him as pretty dark
765
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:05,490
even at his lightest and breezy
766
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:09,190
this installation silver pillows from
767
00:38:05,490 --> 00:38:11,710
1966 its walls take on the ultra
768
00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:14,710
seriousness of minimalist sculpture of a
769
00:38:11,710 --> 00:38:17,790
time but also it's a complete negative
770
00:38:14,710 --> 00:38:21,070
couldn't care less comment upon it is
771
00:38:17,790 --> 00:38:23,470
pink and yellow cow wallpaper from the
772
00:38:21,070 --> 00:38:26,530
same exhibition exhibited here exactly
773
00:38:23,470 --> 00:38:29,740
as it was then in a room adjacent to his
774
00:38:26,530 --> 00:38:31,810
silver floaty pillows is an up yours too
775
00:38:29,740 --> 00:38:34,740
contemporary abstract painting with its
776
00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:37,150
abstruse theories of color and flatness
777
00:38:34,740 --> 00:38:40,120
Warhol's own paintings go from
778
00:38:37,150 --> 00:38:42,310
aggressive pastiche of the nights his
779
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:45,730
version of lovely Impressionism is both
780
00:38:42,310 --> 00:38:49,090
gorgeous and sarcastic to stark
781
00:38:45,730 --> 00:38:52,990
revelations of the horrible his death
782
00:38:49,090 --> 00:38:55,300
and disaster series wall took everything
783
00:38:52,990 --> 00:38:57,130
the mass media had to offer as if it was
784
00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:59,250
messages from the gods and the gods
785
00:38:57,130 --> 00:39:01,750
always have a lot to say about death
786
00:38:59,250 --> 00:39:04,060
Warhol himself was a regular churchgoer
787
00:39:01,750 --> 00:39:06,990
so it's only right he should feel at
788
00:39:04,060 --> 00:39:09,460
home with religions big subject the end
789
00:39:06,990 --> 00:39:11,710
with everything he does there's the
790
00:39:09,460 --> 00:39:14,230
witty idea often given to him by
791
00:39:11,710 --> 00:39:16,420
somebody else as it was in the case of
792
00:39:14,230 --> 00:39:19,180
the death and disaster series but also
793
00:39:16,420 --> 00:39:21,940
the cleverness and stylishness of the
794
00:39:19,180 --> 00:39:24,820
ideas execution like picking the right
795
00:39:21,940 --> 00:39:28,090
title and the right scale for this
796
00:39:24,820 --> 00:39:30,010
painting called foot and tire just big
797
00:39:28,090 --> 00:39:34,240
enough for the foot to be registered
798
00:39:30,010 --> 00:39:37,240
beneath the tire at a glance and picking
799
00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:40,420
the right news photo car crash for this
800
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:42,550
painting called 5 deaths 5 teenage
801
00:39:40,420 --> 00:39:44,710
corpses are leaning on the grass looking
802
00:39:42,550 --> 00:39:47,170
out their eyes wide open as if they're
803
00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:50,550
feeling fine but in fact they're crushed
804
00:39:47,170 --> 00:39:54,700
mangled and covered with blood
805
00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:58,800
ambulance disaster the one vehicle you'd
806
00:39:54,700 --> 00:40:00,640
think you'd feel safe in and white
807
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:03,760
burning car
808
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:05,340
the repeated news photo image shows the
809
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,370
burning car
810
00:40:05,340 --> 00:40:12,570
and the driver grotesquely hanging from
811
00:40:08,370 --> 00:40:15,150
telegraph pole a casual passerby not
812
00:40:12,570 --> 00:40:17,630
just casually passing by and glancing at
813
00:40:15,150 --> 00:40:21,170
death but not even bothering to glance
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with the corresponding blank empty
815
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nothingness of the last section of the
816
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series can we do a cheese movie all you
817
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have to do is say cheese cheese all
818
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right go the next book next year's war
819
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halt filming Susan Sontag frightening
820
00:40:36,090 --> 00:40:40,740
superbrain of the sixties asking her if
821
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she wants to be in a movie about cheese
822
00:40:40,740 --> 00:40:46,320
just what you're doing Warhol's
823
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paintings Warhol's films they're the
824
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:51,240
same they do the same thing it was part
825
00:40:48,990 --> 00:40:56,940
of Warhol's genius to realize that could
826
00:40:51,240 --> 00:41:02,520
be so can film be art were still asking
827
00:40:56,940 --> 00:41:05,490
that question today this is Andy
828
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Warhol's first film sleep made in 1963
829
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only a year after he first became famous
830
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as a painter just a man sleeping for
831
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eight hours
832
00:41:12,110 --> 00:41:16,800
Warhol used to go to underground films
833
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,690
all the time with the poet John John oh
834
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,790
he thought he could make when himself
835
00:41:18,690 --> 00:41:23,670
say bought a camera what should he film
836
00:41:20,790 --> 00:41:25,650
though Andy and I was sleeping together
837
00:41:23,670 --> 00:41:27,270
I was drunk you know like if the hay was
838
00:41:25,650 --> 00:41:29,040
about get up to take a piss and there
839
00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:31,590
would be Andy who's on speed you know
840
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:34,530
would be looking at me and I would say
841
00:41:31,590 --> 00:41:36,510
what are you doing he said watching and
842
00:41:34,530 --> 00:41:38,100
then I'd go to sleep and wake up again
843
00:41:36,510 --> 00:41:40,020
take another person and then he would
844
00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:42,150
sort of was that night for the lack of
845
00:41:40,020 --> 00:41:45,110
an idea what he was gonna make his a
846
00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:50,360
movie of was he got the idea of
847
00:41:45,110 --> 00:41:52,760
and then me sleeping war holeshot hours
848
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:55,640
of footage over different nights then he
849
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,020
got into a tangle editing it finally he
850
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,270
just picked out the shots that
851
00:41:57,020 --> 00:42:02,210
brilliantly emphasized light and shade
852
00:41:59,270 --> 00:42:04,430
so the film wouldn't seem too gay to
853
00:42:02,210 --> 00:42:06,350
beat censorship laws and he made it
854
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eight hours long because that's how long
855
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sleep usually lasts to conform to arts
856
00:42:09,020 --> 00:42:15,950
structural laws in this film there is
857
00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:18,290
the palpable sense of one of the
858
00:42:15,950 --> 00:42:21,050
elements of Warhol's genius the way his
859
00:42:18,290 --> 00:42:23,720
art foreground sexuality like Picasso's
860
00:42:21,050 --> 00:42:27,220
does only of course not like it because
861
00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:30,920
Warhol was gay and because I wasn't
862
00:42:27,220 --> 00:42:32,960
great energy comes with sex and drugs
863
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,150
just magnified him and he understood all
864
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,010
that I mean Andy was on speed himself so
865
00:42:35,150 --> 00:42:39,860
he only so he could see everything with
866
00:42:37,010 --> 00:42:41,600
enormous clarity and then everyone else
867
00:42:39,860 --> 00:42:43,160
was on whatever drug of their choice was
868
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,020
and they will [ __ ] I mean it was grow
869
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:48,220
everyone was either straight or gay was
870
00:42:45,020 --> 00:42:51,140
was a lot of sexuality and Andy totally
871
00:42:48,220 --> 00:42:53,570
when that was the attraction of for him
872
00:42:51,140 --> 00:42:55,550
to make movies I mean Andy didn't want
873
00:42:53,570 --> 00:42:58,720
to have sex he wanted to watch as we
874
00:42:55,550 --> 00:42:58,720
know he was a great lawyer
875
00:43:00,490 --> 00:43:06,050
here's [ __ ] made in the same year as
876
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sleep another film with a minimal
877
00:43:06,050 --> 00:43:09,230
structure its reality but this is all
878
00:43:08,690 --> 00:43:11,300
you get
879
00:43:09,230 --> 00:43:13,930
it's the same frame for half an hour
880
00:43:11,300 --> 00:43:15,500
reality and abstraction coming together
881
00:43:13,930 --> 00:43:17,860
pardon my french
882
00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:17,860
aha
883
00:43:18,110 --> 00:43:23,400
it's a fine balance of elements lost on
884
00:43:21,240 --> 00:43:25,560
some people who quite understandably are
885
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:31,230
interested in the title but a bit bored
886
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:34,050
by the film I told Andy once in New York
887
00:43:31,230 --> 00:43:37,140
I says I'm going down to see one of your
888
00:43:34,050 --> 00:43:39,810
movies you know it's playing and he says
889
00:43:37,140 --> 00:43:42,330
look they charge $3
890
00:43:39,810 --> 00:43:44,220
he says you give me the three bucks and
891
00:43:42,330 --> 00:43:46,590
let me boot you in a rear-end he says
892
00:43:44,220 --> 00:43:50,100
don't waste your time on it so that was
893
00:43:46,590 --> 00:43:53,400
the answer that I got but it says some
894
00:43:50,100 --> 00:43:57,690
some of the family members were sort of
895
00:43:53,400 --> 00:44:01,020
critical about it you know my mother was
896
00:43:57,690 --> 00:44:03,660
very deeply in the village and she had
897
00:44:01,020 --> 00:44:05,850
faith in it and she brought Andy up
898
00:44:03,660 --> 00:44:08,520
halfway to and brought all of us that
899
00:44:05,850 --> 00:44:11,310
way I mean on numerous occasions when
900
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:15,270
we're up here and he's getting ready to
901
00:44:11,310 --> 00:44:17,490
leave and in hid yell mother I'm getting
902
00:44:15,270 --> 00:44:21,300
ready to leave come on in here and and
903
00:44:17,490 --> 00:44:24,870
pray with me and he knelt down in front
904
00:44:21,300 --> 00:44:27,210
of her altar and in in prayed you know
905
00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:29,840
for five or ten minutes and Andy would
906
00:44:27,210 --> 00:44:29,840
be on his way
907
00:44:36,350 --> 00:44:40,520
warhol's pictures of death how great
908
00:44:39,050 --> 00:44:42,710
they look even though they're only
909
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:45,260
silkscreen photos how great he could
910
00:44:42,710 --> 00:44:47,060
make that technique be nobody knows what
911
00:44:45,260 --> 00:44:52,490
he really thought about death these
912
00:44:47,060 --> 00:44:54,380
skulls pop death or death death they
913
00:44:52,490 --> 00:44:56,300
were painted ten years after he really
914
00:44:54,380 --> 00:44:58,970
did nearly die from an attempted
915
00:44:56,300 --> 00:45:01,580
assassination by Valerie Solanas the
916
00:44:58,970 --> 00:45:04,220
author of the scum manifesto the Society
917
00:45:01,580 --> 00:45:06,740
for cutting up men she came up to
918
00:45:04,220 --> 00:45:12,260
Warhol's famous factory studio and shot
919
00:45:06,740 --> 00:45:14,030
him one day in 1968 Warhol survived the
920
00:45:12,260 --> 00:45:15,950
shooting but for the rest of his life he
921
00:45:14,030 --> 00:45:19,730
suffered constant pain from the wounds
922
00:45:15,950 --> 00:45:22,640
which went on leaking horribly but then
923
00:45:19,730 --> 00:45:24,950
in February 1987 he did die tragically
924
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,810
from simple neglect when his private
925
00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:29,690
nurse fell asleep following a routine
926
00:45:26,810 --> 00:45:33,070
gallbladder operation his tubes just
927
00:45:29,690 --> 00:45:33,070
clogged up and he died
928
00:45:37,690 --> 00:45:42,830
here we are again in a graveyard
929
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:46,580
morbidly obsessing over modern arts dead
930
00:45:42,830 --> 00:45:48,860
dad's Warhol was a genius but it was a
931
00:45:46,580 --> 00:45:51,110
new type of genius he was a genius at
932
00:45:48,860 --> 00:45:53,510
expressing what it felt like not to be
933
00:45:51,110 --> 00:45:55,820
sure what you felt at all it was a great
934
00:45:53,510 --> 00:45:58,880
psychologist he observed what drives
935
00:45:55,820 --> 00:46:01,400
people and excites them not the people
936
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,570
in his pictures and films the icons but
937
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,510
the people who wanted to look at them
938
00:46:02,570 --> 00:46:07,460
the public he wrote books and made
939
00:46:05,510 --> 00:46:09,620
movies and produce records and painted
940
00:46:07,460 --> 00:46:11,900
paintings a lot of it wasn't any good
941
00:46:09,620 --> 00:46:16,060
but he looked at a wasteland and said
942
00:46:11,900 --> 00:46:16,060
this is Modern Art and it was
943
00:46:24,310 --> 00:46:28,780
hi its young people's music but back in
944
00:46:26,590 --> 00:46:31,210
the now zone again people of the 90s
945
00:46:28,780 --> 00:46:34,750
Times Square acting out a fashion me
946
00:46:31,210 --> 00:46:37,330
acting modern uh-oh he has sent his man
947
00:46:34,750 --> 00:46:41,230
head filled with the past pondering the
948
00:46:37,330 --> 00:46:43,420
meaning of modernity is modern always
949
00:46:41,230 --> 00:46:45,280
modern does it run out is it something
950
00:46:43,420 --> 00:46:47,560
you get out the modern cupboard down and
951
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:51,130
polish or is it always frightening Lee
952
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:52,930
alive Warhol Pollock Picasso they all
953
00:46:51,130 --> 00:46:55,570
stand for radical breaks with the past
954
00:46:52,930 --> 00:46:57,850
ugliness instead of beauty America
955
00:46:55,570 --> 00:47:00,910
instead of Europe irony instead of
956
00:46:57,850 --> 00:47:03,610
anguish I am what I am because of them
957
00:47:00,910 --> 00:47:06,070
but now they're the past Andy Warhol
958
00:47:03,610 --> 00:47:10,930
became part of culture in about 1962
959
00:47:06,070 --> 00:47:13,600
what's happened since then this is
960
00:47:10,930 --> 00:47:16,540
millennium modern art Damien Hirst spots
961
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:19,600
in lot 61 the latest media hang out in
962
00:47:16,540 --> 00:47:21,370
New York I'm drunk now and jet-lagged
963
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,670
from time travel so I'm just talking
964
00:47:21,370 --> 00:47:23,980
rubbish
965
00:47:21,670 --> 00:47:25,960
but if you ask me what these spots say
966
00:47:23,980 --> 00:47:28,540
is that like Andy Warhol's silver
967
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:31,240
pillows we are a form of art of almost
968
00:47:28,540 --> 00:47:33,370
unbelievable weightlessness and yet we
969
00:47:31,240 --> 00:47:36,340
are quite good how can that be
970
00:47:33,370 --> 00:47:38,800
it's bright decorative eye stimulating
971
00:47:36,340 --> 00:47:40,840
exciting painting doing all the things a
972
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,970
painting should do but it's all done
973
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,890
mechanically with a compass and with the
974
00:47:42,970 --> 00:47:47,470
colors not even being filled in by
975
00:47:44,890 --> 00:47:49,630
Hearst but by an assistant so something
976
00:47:47,470 --> 00:47:52,060
is missing there's nothing to tell us
977
00:47:49,630 --> 00:47:54,130
what to feel it expresses our culture's
978
00:47:52,060 --> 00:47:57,250
anxiety about the role of painting now
979
00:47:54,130 --> 00:47:59,710
does it have one God has it come to this
980
00:47:57,250 --> 00:48:02,170
from Picasso's fabulous art of domestic
981
00:47:59,710 --> 00:48:05,230
life to all of modern are summed up in a
982
00:48:02,170 --> 00:48:06,550
restaurant art is dead said Warhol I am
983
00:48:05,230 --> 00:48:08,670
nature said Pollock
984
00:48:06,550 --> 00:48:12,270
I don't seek I find said Picasso
985
00:48:08,670 --> 00:48:12,270
vindaloo says
986
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:22,789
here we are back where we started at my
987
00:48:20,329 --> 00:48:24,680
studio a modern art greenhouse where
988
00:48:22,789 --> 00:48:27,019
modern art mines are cultivated and
989
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:29,480
nurtured he is an artist painting a
990
00:48:27,019 --> 00:48:34,880
psychedelic modern garden this is modern
991
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:36,500
art going on but being different Damien
992
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,150
Hirst isn't the last chapter
993
00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:40,369
he's just the leader of our present
994
00:48:38,150 --> 00:48:42,440
phase of modern art we're geniuses don't
995
00:48:40,369 --> 00:48:44,569
really exist but creativity and
996
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,430
inventiveness and not being straight and
997
00:48:44,569 --> 00:48:50,569
having your own system and not being
998
00:48:46,430 --> 00:48:52,430
polite all still do and that's the
999
00:48:50,569 --> 00:48:54,470
answer to the thing we were wondering
1000
00:48:52,430 --> 00:48:56,750
last time we were at my ambiently
1001
00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:58,819
humming studio we like modern art
1002
00:48:56,750 --> 00:49:00,890
because we don't know what it is the
1003
00:48:58,819 --> 00:49:03,490
reason it keeps changing is to make sure
1004
00:49:00,890 --> 00:49:03,490
we never do
1005
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:24,940
this is modern art continues next week
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00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:27,160
Thursday Ken Burns superb series jazz
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00:49:24,940 --> 00:49:29,859
continues with the music taking new
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00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:33,579
directions into the turbulent 60s join
1009
00:49:29,859 --> 00:49:35,230
us for jazz 9:30 Thursday nights stay
1010
00:49:33,579 --> 00:49:37,859
with us now for the history of sin
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