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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:32,190 --> 00:00:37,420 some sexy models now it's men with 2 00:00:35,350 --> 00:00:40,300 earrings and converted warehouse studios 3 00:00:37,420 --> 00:00:43,180 in the East End this one's doing photo 4 00:00:40,300 --> 00:00:45,580 realism style that was invented 35 years 5 00:00:43,180 --> 00:00:50,680 ago in New York and died out soon after 6 00:00:45,580 --> 00:00:52,780 what's he doing again for let's go on 7 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:55,120 prowling moodily through this modern art 8 00:00:52,780 --> 00:00:57,910 studio of nowadays interpreting the 9 00:00:55,120 --> 00:01:01,629 signs of the big no the first two 10 00:00:57,910 --> 00:01:03,850 letters of nowadays no to genius no to 11 00:01:01,629 --> 00:01:09,220 beauty no to art where you can tell 12 00:01:03,850 --> 00:01:11,799 what's happening here's a modern artist 13 00:01:09,220 --> 00:01:14,470 who's made some paintings of words to go 14 00:01:11,799 --> 00:01:16,860 with a sculpture of a full-stop she's 15 00:01:14,470 --> 00:01:19,630 gonna be showing both Tate Gallery 16 00:01:16,860 --> 00:01:21,909 Modern Art today is full of words and 17 00:01:19,630 --> 00:01:24,369 full of sounds this slightly menacing 18 00:01:21,909 --> 00:01:26,320 horror music sound like soundtrack for a 19 00:01:24,369 --> 00:01:28,360 modern art program is actually some 20 00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:37,240 modern art being made by this artist 21 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:39,460 who's also just had a show hey look it's 22 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:46,030 a painting by me I painted it at art 23 00:01:39,460 --> 00:01:48,370 school it's cosmic apart and now it's 24 00:01:46,030 --> 00:01:53,440 gonna be me talking I wonder I'm gonna 25 00:01:48,370 --> 00:01:56,350 say why is it when we think of modern 26 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:59,560 art the art of today but we don't think 27 00:01:56,350 --> 00:02:02,680 of this anymore a genius artists in this 28 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:05,650 studio drawing a nude woman with 29 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:11,200 charcoal what happened to make that idea 30 00:02:05,650 --> 00:02:13,330 of art an old hat idea this is my studio 31 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:15,940 in Derbyshire Street in Bethnal Green 32 00:02:13,330 --> 00:02:18,640 I share it with a load of other artists 33 00:02:15,940 --> 00:02:20,620 who also never draw the model and you 34 00:02:18,640 --> 00:02:23,470 mostly have never seen a nude woman in 35 00:02:20,620 --> 00:02:26,950 an artist's studio outside of Hollywood 36 00:02:23,470 --> 00:02:29,379 films about van Gogh or Michelangelo at 37 00:02:26,950 --> 00:02:31,900 this moment they're upstairs or along 38 00:02:29,379 --> 00:02:35,230 the corridor testing out every activity 39 00:02:31,900 --> 00:02:44,829 Under the Sun except life drawing to see 40 00:02:35,230 --> 00:02:47,230 if it could be art at another moment 41 00:02:44,829 --> 00:02:49,029 behind a cloud of sexy girl was smoked 42 00:02:47,230 --> 00:02:52,060 in a studio along the great dark 43 00:02:49,029 --> 00:02:54,730 corridor of time is a real genius with a 44 00:02:52,060 --> 00:02:58,439 big pen the biggest pen of all the pen 45 00:02:54,730 --> 00:02:58,439 of Pablo drawing a face 46 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:06,400 war bad Picasso said peace good that was 47 00:03:04,180 --> 00:03:09,220 the 1950s the time when I was born 48 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,780 when Picasso was a communist because it 49 00:03:09,220 --> 00:03:12,640 was a time when modern art really stood 50 00:03:10,780 --> 00:03:15,130 for something and a scribble and a line 51 00:03:12,640 --> 00:03:17,410 and a few dots by Picasso could seem to 52 00:03:15,130 --> 00:03:20,980 sum up everything nobody laughed at his 53 00:03:17,410 --> 00:03:23,230 solution to world conflict but they did 54 00:03:20,980 --> 00:03:24,640 sometimes cry about his drawing why a 55 00:03:23,230 --> 00:03:27,460 child of six could do it 56 00:03:24,640 --> 00:03:28,960 royal academicians cried I hated Picasso 57 00:03:27,460 --> 00:03:31,420 and everything knew they wanted 58 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:34,060 everything to be old again but now it's 59 00:03:31,420 --> 00:03:42,190 the 90s I'm in my forties it's a whole 60 00:03:34,060 --> 00:03:44,800 different world today modern art is a 61 00:03:42,190 --> 00:03:47,440 real pig a pig sawn in half with the 62 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:51,280 chainsaw and suspended in a vitrine of 63 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:53,530 formaldehyde or it's a photo of a 64 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:57,610 blankly staring post feminist woman of 65 00:03:53,530 --> 00:03:59,650 the 90s or a tenth by another woman 66 00:03:57,610 --> 00:04:02,050 artist embroidered with the names of 67 00:03:59,650 --> 00:04:03,910 everyone she's ever slept with or the 68 00:04:02,050 --> 00:04:06,040 London Tube map but with all the names 69 00:04:03,910 --> 00:04:08,080 of the station's changed to nonsense 70 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:10,630 footballers instead of Jubilee line 71 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,840 stops philosophers instead of the circle 72 00:04:10,630 --> 00:04:12,840 line 73 00:04:15,209 --> 00:04:19,079 so that's modern art now and what I'm 74 00:04:17,639 --> 00:04:21,930 going to be doing over the next six 75 00:04:19,079 --> 00:04:23,970 weeks this modern art series called this 76 00:04:21,930 --> 00:04:26,130 is modern art and a kind of I run it 77 00:04:23,970 --> 00:04:28,199 doubtful way because no one knows what 78 00:04:26,130 --> 00:04:32,009 modern art really is it's traveling 79 00:04:28,199 --> 00:04:33,990 through time looking at the modern art 80 00:04:32,009 --> 00:04:36,479 of the past and back again to the modern 81 00:04:33,990 --> 00:04:38,039 art of today to see what the past has to 82 00:04:36,479 --> 00:04:42,449 say about the present and what the 83 00:04:38,039 --> 00:04:44,190 present has to say about the past this 84 00:04:42,449 --> 00:04:47,449 is what the inside of my head looks like 85 00:04:44,190 --> 00:04:51,560 like a Museum of Modern Art of the mine 86 00:04:47,449 --> 00:04:51,560 there's some abstract expressionism 87 00:04:51,919 --> 00:04:56,070 later I'm going to be looking at three 88 00:04:53,970 --> 00:04:58,199 giant turning points in the history of 89 00:04:56,070 --> 00:05:00,720 modern art all coming out of this place 90 00:04:58,199 --> 00:05:04,530 the real Museum of Modern Art in New 91 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,880 York huge white magnificent anyone who's 92 00:05:04,530 --> 00:05:08,099 ever been there will know the sheer 93 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,960 confidence of the display the scale of 94 00:05:08,099 --> 00:05:12,389 it the feeling of authority and 95 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:14,160 credibility that it has New Yorkers go 96 00:05:12,389 --> 00:05:16,169 around with that model of Modern Art in 97 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:18,090 their heads more or less not the ones on 98 00:05:16,169 --> 00:05:20,099 crack of course because Americans want 99 00:05:18,090 --> 00:05:24,000 this kind of art it answers a need 100 00:05:20,099 --> 00:05:26,370 what is this need exactly modern art is 101 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,360 a mixture of snob culture and amazing 102 00:05:26,370 --> 00:05:30,240 open-mindedness 103 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:31,770 back Andy Warhol modern art is a system 104 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:35,000 but one that's always changing 105 00:05:31,770 --> 00:05:37,470 Warhol stands for one of its big changes 106 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:40,080 later on we're going to be meeting him 107 00:05:37,470 --> 00:05:42,060 plus two more geniuses move the 108 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:44,880 parameters of Modern Art 109 00:05:42,060 --> 00:05:46,530 this is the first one big cigar of 110 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:51,320 modernity the castle 111 00:05:46,530 --> 00:05:51,320 this is Picasso's the Demoiselles Avenue 112 00:05:52,290 --> 00:05:56,590 lady misil davon yo is the picture at 113 00:05:55,090 --> 00:05:58,980 the beginning of all modern art books 114 00:05:56,590 --> 00:06:01,600 it's the picture that started cubism 115 00:05:58,980 --> 00:06:04,240 hardly a picture at all it's a monster 116 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:06,160 picture a parody of a picture painted in 117 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:07,840 one way and then half painted over in a 118 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:11,500 different way without caring if the 119 00:06:07,840 --> 00:06:13,180 seams show five ugly angry glaring 120 00:06:11,500 --> 00:06:15,220 prostitutes in a brothel with their 121 00:06:13,180 --> 00:06:18,250 armpits showing and they're blank 122 00:06:15,220 --> 00:06:21,750 indifferent dead faces staring out or 123 00:06:18,250 --> 00:06:24,400 the primitive doglike African mask faces 124 00:06:21,750 --> 00:06:26,050 from the eyebrows out to the folds of 125 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,150 the curtains everything irritates 126 00:06:26,050 --> 00:06:30,190 everything else everything is spiky and 127 00:06:28,150 --> 00:06:32,410 jostling as if it's the painting not the 128 00:06:30,190 --> 00:06:37,330 women glaring out like an ugly angry 129 00:06:32,410 --> 00:06:39,040 shocking exciting art joke when I first 130 00:06:37,330 --> 00:06:41,590 saw this picture in a book at about age 131 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:44,140 17 I didn't think this is cubism I 132 00:06:41,590 --> 00:06:46,440 thought this is modern art the hard 133 00:06:44,140 --> 00:06:46,440 stuff 134 00:06:48,550 --> 00:06:53,530 Sara Lucas defiant woman of the nineties 135 00:06:51,190 --> 00:06:55,480 icon of young British art up against the 136 00:06:53,530 --> 00:06:59,830 wall defiantly redefining what it means 137 00:06:55,480 --> 00:07:01,930 to be modern this abject wretched 138 00:06:59,830 --> 00:07:04,840 stocking monster called bunny which 139 00:07:01,930 --> 00:07:06,820 Lucas made in 1997 is the sister of Lady 140 00:07:04,840 --> 00:07:10,120 Michelle Davin or only seventy years 141 00:07:06,820 --> 00:07:12,100 younger than them Picasso with somebody 142 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,860 identify with I mean just in terms of 143 00:07:12,100 --> 00:07:16,420 the amount of sex in his work I suppose 144 00:07:13,860 --> 00:07:20,530 that's subject or event the way they 145 00:07:16,420 --> 00:07:22,780 would transform say fruit or even just 146 00:07:20,530 --> 00:07:24,160 lines that on break up a face in a 147 00:07:22,780 --> 00:07:26,050 certain way so that you can see a penis 148 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,610 and your something like that and like 149 00:07:26,050 --> 00:07:30,190 where he turns a pair of handlebars into 150 00:07:27,610 --> 00:07:32,290 a pair of horns I'd say come very close 151 00:07:30,190 --> 00:07:35,230 to the kind of transformation I'm using 152 00:07:32,290 --> 00:07:39,340 little real objects to stamp something 153 00:07:35,230 --> 00:07:42,430 else dumb things transforming in the 154 00:07:39,340 --> 00:07:45,160 mind this sculpture is a 1990s tone of 155 00:07:42,430 --> 00:07:47,230 jokey contempt nevertheless it's a work 156 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,940 that comes at the end of an art timeline 157 00:07:47,230 --> 00:07:50,590 that begins with Lady Michelle Devon 158 00:07:48,940 --> 00:07:53,110 young it's art that would be impossible 159 00:07:50,590 --> 00:07:55,210 without Picasso it laughs at the cult of 160 00:07:53,110 --> 00:07:57,250 the macho but it respects the thing that 161 00:07:55,210 --> 00:07:59,530 the sex myth of Picasso really stands 162 00:07:57,250 --> 00:08:03,580 for Picasso's cult of change of 163 00:07:59,530 --> 00:08:05,920 Perpetual renewal my mind he's kind of 164 00:08:03,580 --> 00:08:09,310 stands for only artists who manage to 165 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:11,530 carry on changing and um rather than 166 00:08:09,310 --> 00:08:13,720 just kind of reiterating their own work 167 00:08:11,530 --> 00:08:15,610 and the freshest work being when they 168 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:18,510 were younger so that's one of the things 169 00:08:15,610 --> 00:08:18,510 I've really admired I'm 170 00:08:25,180 --> 00:08:30,759 I find Picasso very moving not 171 00:08:28,570 --> 00:08:34,089 disconnected from my world but part of 172 00:08:30,759 --> 00:08:37,300 it what does he stand for he stands for 173 00:08:34,089 --> 00:08:39,190 ceaseless creativity not caring not 174 00:08:37,300 --> 00:08:42,419 being snobbish having his own sister 175 00:08:39,190 --> 00:08:42,419 never being polite 176 00:08:45,030 --> 00:08:49,560 on the other hand he also stands for a 177 00:08:47,610 --> 00:08:52,290 kind of atrophying of the restless 178 00:08:49,560 --> 00:08:54,570 modern-art mind where whenever his name 179 00:08:52,290 --> 00:08:58,430 is mentioned tasteful music starts up 180 00:08:54,570 --> 00:08:58,430 and we stop thinking 181 00:08:58,620 --> 00:09:04,170 the Picasso Museum in Paris it's not an 182 00:09:01,830 --> 00:09:06,600 unfamiliar sight on television and a 183 00:09:04,170 --> 00:09:08,430 presenter waddling about it waving his 184 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:11,130 arms around it's not unknown either 185 00:09:08,430 --> 00:09:13,890 so how do you make this old art subject 186 00:09:11,130 --> 00:09:16,020 new well for one thing you can knowledge 187 00:09:13,890 --> 00:09:18,600 that we live in a world where artists 188 00:09:16,020 --> 00:09:21,570 like Tracey Emin and Sarah Lucas are our 189 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:24,150 stars and where cubism is no more 190 00:09:21,570 --> 00:09:26,310 important than any other ISM and no ism 191 00:09:24,150 --> 00:09:27,570 is all that important and consequently 192 00:09:26,310 --> 00:09:29,520 for different people with different 193 00:09:27,570 --> 00:09:32,520 interests there are a lot of different 194 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:34,470 Picasso's there's the genius andy is 195 00:09:32,520 --> 00:09:36,960 that no one could be here with the 196 00:09:34,470 --> 00:09:39,180 energy of this art are not feeling was a 197 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:41,610 genius of some kind but there's also the 198 00:09:39,180 --> 00:09:43,770 absurd decadent rich person who could 199 00:09:41,610 --> 00:09:47,180 buy a chateau for the price of a drawing 200 00:09:43,770 --> 00:09:49,890 and the old macho outdated sex monster 201 00:09:47,180 --> 00:09:53,340 obsessively fixated on the image of the 202 00:09:49,890 --> 00:09:56,430 artist alone in the studio with a naked 203 00:09:53,340 --> 00:09:58,310 female model the woman rendered again 204 00:09:56,430 --> 00:10:02,300 and again as a kind of hilarious 205 00:09:58,310 --> 00:10:07,440 exploded oddly fide beautifully painted 206 00:10:02,300 --> 00:10:09,930 male sex fantasy sex and death 207 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:11,820 Picasso's great themes this is a picture 208 00:10:09,930 --> 00:10:14,790 of his friend who committed suicide from 209 00:10:11,820 --> 00:10:16,890 unrequited love kassig Amos done when 210 00:10:14,790 --> 00:10:19,380 young Picasso hadn't become a genius yet 211 00:10:16,890 --> 00:10:22,640 but was just passing already existing 212 00:10:19,380 --> 00:10:24,980 styles from Van Gogh to Toulouse Lautrec 213 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:27,690 everyone knows Picasso's blue period 214 00:10:24,980 --> 00:10:29,670 informed art world people think it's a 215 00:10:27,690 --> 00:10:32,160 bit sentimental everyone else loves it 216 00:10:29,670 --> 00:10:33,900 because it's sentimental it's the stuff 217 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:37,980 after they're not sure about the genius 218 00:10:33,900 --> 00:10:40,350 stuff when Picasso first painted led 219 00:10:37,980 --> 00:10:42,750 Emma's old Evan yo in 1906 when he was 220 00:10:40,350 --> 00:10:44,310 only 27 he rolled it up in a corner of 221 00:10:42,750 --> 00:10:46,260 the studio because he didn't know what 222 00:10:44,310 --> 00:10:48,810 it was even his friends didn't like it 223 00:10:46,260 --> 00:10:51,060 Georges Braque said looking at it was 224 00:10:48,810 --> 00:10:53,190 like being made to drink petrol but then 225 00:10:51,060 --> 00:10:55,050 gradually Picasso and Braque came to 226 00:10:53,190 --> 00:10:57,450 acknowledge it as the prototype for 227 00:10:55,050 --> 00:11:00,000 cubism it isn't interesting to think 228 00:10:57,450 --> 00:11:01,800 about cubism as an ism anymore but it is 229 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,080 interesting to think about what it 230 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,760 actually did it made the painting more 231 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:08,340 important than the picture it made 232 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:10,440 inventing more important than copying it 233 00:11:08,340 --> 00:11:11,379 meant reality could be gutted and boned 234 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:14,849 and put back 235 00:11:11,379 --> 00:11:17,859 gather again as something else as art 236 00:11:14,849 --> 00:11:19,569 Picasso never made art from nature he 237 00:11:17,859 --> 00:11:21,999 just made it out of his head he made it 238 00:11:19,569 --> 00:11:25,509 up he held on to reality only to have 239 00:11:21,999 --> 00:11:27,160 something to push around the Casa was 240 00:11:25,509 --> 00:11:29,589 the first to think cubism was a boring 241 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,419 idea almost as soon as he invented it a 242 00:11:29,589 --> 00:11:34,299 whole school of academic Cubist's 243 00:11:31,419 --> 00:11:36,009 started up they stopped putting the eyes 244 00:11:34,299 --> 00:11:37,209 on the side of the head and started 245 00:11:36,009 --> 00:11:37,599 putting them in the right place for a 246 00:11:37,209 --> 00:11:39,909 while 247 00:11:37,599 --> 00:11:43,389 that was his neoclassical period of the 248 00:11:39,909 --> 00:11:44,009 1920s but then he put them in the wrong 249 00:11:43,389 --> 00:11:46,479 place again 250 00:11:44,009 --> 00:11:49,089 and after that just switch back and 251 00:11:46,479 --> 00:11:51,729 forth stylistically all the time from 252 00:11:49,089 --> 00:11:54,939 smoothed out to jagged from wildly 253 00:11:51,729 --> 00:11:58,739 distorted to calm from angry to funny 254 00:11:54,939 --> 00:11:58,739 from ugly to beautiful 255 00:12:02,230 --> 00:12:07,720 Picasso the genius lover of many women 256 00:12:05,170 --> 00:12:10,600 destroyer of them step her over of their 257 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:12,790 distorted and Cuba fide bodies I don't 258 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:15,460 despise the corny myths of Picasso the 259 00:12:12,790 --> 00:12:17,320 ego monster mr. loved pants but I know 260 00:12:15,460 --> 00:12:19,630 they're not the art they're just the 261 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:22,600 Hello magazine version and I'm only faux 262 00:12:19,630 --> 00:12:25,360 hello I think there's a real Picasso and 263 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:27,250 it's in these real shapes and bodies the 264 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:30,160 bits and pieces that make up this art 265 00:12:27,250 --> 00:12:32,860 this is the Picasso system in operation 266 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:36,310 it's here in this museum but it's in our 267 00:12:32,860 --> 00:12:41,010 heads to art's new systems of now and 268 00:12:36,310 --> 00:12:41,010 mutations of his old system of then 269 00:12:50,420 --> 00:12:55,610 here we are on the lovely Riviera 270 00:12:52,740 --> 00:12:58,680 looking for the essential Picasso 271 00:12:55,610 --> 00:13:00,480 Picasso was always changing when he was 272 00:12:58,680 --> 00:13:04,050 in his sixties the new model was 273 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:07,170 Mediterranean Picasso the Mediterranean 274 00:13:04,050 --> 00:13:09,959 is timeless classical ancient all about 275 00:13:07,170 --> 00:13:11,580 sensuous timeless pleasure only Picasso 276 00:13:09,959 --> 00:13:17,010 could mix all this up with aggressive 277 00:13:11,580 --> 00:13:19,380 modernity after the war he was given 278 00:13:17,010 --> 00:13:24,660 this museum of local culture in Antibes 279 00:13:19,380 --> 00:13:26,670 to use as a studio modern art was hated 280 00:13:24,660 --> 00:13:29,130 by fascists so it must be good for peace 281 00:13:26,670 --> 00:13:31,680 it was thought Picasso became France's 282 00:13:29,130 --> 00:13:36,660 official expresser of the new post-war 283 00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:38,820 happiness he roamed the building taking 284 00:13:36,660 --> 00:13:41,850 down the old official art and replacing 285 00:13:38,820 --> 00:13:43,740 it with smiling triangles his paintings 286 00:13:41,850 --> 00:13:45,930 here aren't particularly well-known but 287 00:13:43,740 --> 00:13:48,410 they're the sublime playful side of 288 00:13:45,930 --> 00:13:48,410 Picasso 289 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:03,350 these are modest masterpieces of 290 00:14:01,339 --> 00:14:06,079 ordinary life the pleasures of the 291 00:14:03,350 --> 00:14:07,819 domestic and the everyday to me they're 292 00:14:06,079 --> 00:14:10,309 the awesome achievements of modern art 293 00:14:07,819 --> 00:14:14,920 full of details of real things real 294 00:14:10,309 --> 00:14:14,920 things changed into painting things 295 00:14:16,689 --> 00:14:22,160 modernity with Picasso is Picasso's 296 00:14:19,490 --> 00:14:24,410 schwate vivre let loose frolic II and 297 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:27,050 funny and feeling good without caring 298 00:14:24,410 --> 00:14:28,639 what others think but of course he 299 00:14:27,050 --> 00:14:30,829 didn't have to care because a big 300 00:14:28,639 --> 00:14:33,019 support system of mythology and market 301 00:14:30,829 --> 00:14:34,850 was doing all that for him this was 302 00:14:33,019 --> 00:14:37,430 another modern art system that Picasso 303 00:14:34,850 --> 00:14:41,139 invented the system of the modern artist 304 00:14:37,430 --> 00:14:41,139 as entrepreneur and showman 305 00:14:49,790 --> 00:14:54,240 Mediterranean Picasso is Picasso number 306 00:14:52,470 --> 00:14:58,260 two in the various mythologies of 307 00:14:54,240 --> 00:15:00,720 Picasso Picasso rich guy in his old age 308 00:14:58,260 --> 00:15:02,010 lived a magnificent rich bohemian life 309 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,710 in the South of France 310 00:15:02,010 --> 00:15:06,780 moving from villa to villa filling them 311 00:15:04,710 --> 00:15:07,740 up with new creations watching wrestling 312 00:15:06,780 --> 00:15:09,960 on the TV 313 00:15:07,740 --> 00:15:12,990 having Gary Cooper around to visit his 314 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:15,300 favorite film star he was thought to be 315 00:15:12,990 --> 00:15:17,160 the highest-paid man alive called 316 00:15:15,300 --> 00:15:17,910 himself a communist but Moscow called 317 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:21,210 him a decadent 318 00:15:17,910 --> 00:15:22,950 he didn't care though when he wasn't 319 00:15:21,210 --> 00:15:24,750 painting he was out making sculptures 320 00:15:22,950 --> 00:15:28,070 that change the language of sculpture 321 00:15:24,750 --> 00:15:30,720 forever and ceramics that made him laugh 322 00:15:28,070 --> 00:15:32,400 he was full of beans he thought if he 323 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:34,710 never stood still he could live forever 324 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:38,180 that was what drove him but that's one 325 00:15:34,710 --> 00:15:38,180 thing modern art can't do 326 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:47,600 this is almost the last picture he ever 327 00:15:45,170 --> 00:15:52,070 painted a self-portrait from the year he 328 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:54,079 died it was 1973 Picasso was 92 modern 329 00:15:52,070 --> 00:15:57,620 art wasn't just Picasso anymore it had 330 00:15:54,079 --> 00:15:59,850 been taken over by New York what a 331 00:15:57,620 --> 00:16:02,619 picture 332 00:15:59,850 --> 00:16:05,109 Picasso is always dead for us it's part 333 00:16:02,619 --> 00:16:06,879 of his myth he died he stared death in 334 00:16:05,109 --> 00:16:09,489 the face before he went he was 335 00:16:06,879 --> 00:16:11,439 trepidatious guilty but all the lives it 336 00:16:09,489 --> 00:16:14,160 stepped on and destroyed on his path to 337 00:16:11,439 --> 00:16:14,160 genius 338 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:40,660 New York started taking over modern art 339 00:16:37,330 --> 00:16:43,630 in the Second World War by the 1950s the 340 00:16:40,660 --> 00:16:45,670 job was complete Picasso is still 341 00:16:43,630 --> 00:16:47,770 producing but not progressing it was 342 00:16:45,670 --> 00:16:50,560 thought in New York progress was the big 343 00:16:47,770 --> 00:16:52,750 thing now but who could be the sign of 344 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:57,490 progress who could be as big as Picasso 345 00:16:52,750 --> 00:17:00,160 but have the necessary newness Jackson 346 00:16:57,490 --> 00:17:06,670 Pollock artist of the abstract rip 347 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:09,459 doomed forever to be a cliche what do we 348 00:17:06,670 --> 00:17:11,890 see when we see a Jackson Pollock we see 349 00:17:09,459 --> 00:17:14,500 what Pollock stands for Jackson Pollock 350 00:17:11,890 --> 00:17:16,950 stands for freedom self-expression and 351 00:17:14,500 --> 00:17:20,830 being American and for a particular 352 00:17:16,950 --> 00:17:23,800 American financial success story we see 353 00:17:20,830 --> 00:17:26,110 money building up this painting autumn 354 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:28,810 rhythm failed to sell at all when it was 355 00:17:26,110 --> 00:17:30,430 first shown in 1950 even though the 356 00:17:28,810 --> 00:17:33,040 asking price was only twelve hundred 357 00:17:30,430 --> 00:17:34,990 dollars after Paulette died it was 358 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:37,570 offered by a dealer to the Museum of 359 00:17:34,990 --> 00:17:39,550 Modern Art for $8,000 and they were 360 00:17:37,570 --> 00:17:41,740 appalled at the price then it was 361 00:17:39,550 --> 00:17:43,140 offered again for 30,000 and they didn't 362 00:17:41,740 --> 00:17:45,880 even reply to the letter 363 00:17:43,140 --> 00:17:49,540 eventually the Metropolitan Museum 364 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:52,210 bought it for 20,000 a trustee said a 365 00:17:49,540 --> 00:17:55,390 painting this big must be worth 366 00:17:52,210 --> 00:17:57,670 something 20 years later in the mid 70s 367 00:17:55,390 --> 00:17:59,830 the combined value of all Pollock's 368 00:17:57,670 --> 00:18:02,500 works in public and private collections 369 00:17:59,830 --> 00:18:06,030 was estimated to be 50 million dollars 370 00:18:02,500 --> 00:18:09,160 because he was a giant of American art 371 00:18:06,030 --> 00:18:11,800 what else do we see we see the whole 372 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:13,930 tragedy of Pollock's life towards the 373 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:16,660 end of it he couldn't paint at all he 374 00:18:13,930 --> 00:18:19,030 was a depressed alcoholic he was violent 375 00:18:16,660 --> 00:18:22,060 he used to punch people if they punched 376 00:18:19,030 --> 00:18:25,030 him back which they often did he used to 377 00:18:22,060 --> 00:18:27,700 cry he had terrible in security he 378 00:18:25,030 --> 00:18:30,520 thought he was a phony and a sellout but 379 00:18:27,700 --> 00:18:33,700 the papers saw him as a macho primitive 380 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:39,130 hard man the tough guy who said I don't 381 00:18:33,700 --> 00:18:41,440 paint nature I am nature but what are we 382 00:18:39,130 --> 00:18:44,260 seeing just the look of it the sheer 383 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:47,620 feminine beauty of whatever it is the 384 00:18:44,260 --> 00:18:50,320 image or the rhythm its containment 385 00:18:47,620 --> 00:18:53,890 cross all those yards the energy and 386 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:56,559 facility and delicacy the pain the way 387 00:18:53,890 --> 00:18:59,020 it sits on the surface of the canvas but 388 00:18:56,559 --> 00:19:03,460 sinks in at the same time the way it's 389 00:18:59,020 --> 00:19:06,130 flat and spacial at the same time all 390 00:19:03,460 --> 00:19:09,220 that ease and grace the illusion of 391 00:19:06,130 --> 00:19:13,000 something that's been made on instinct 392 00:19:09,220 --> 00:19:17,400 alone what a weird mix of elements makes 393 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:17,400 up our idea of what Jackson Pollock is 394 00:19:19,410 --> 00:19:24,760 the romantic myth of the tortured artist 395 00:19:22,120 --> 00:19:27,370 I like it because I'm a bit romantic 396 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:29,770 myself I started coming to New York a 397 00:19:27,370 --> 00:19:31,690 lot in the early 80s drawn by the allure 398 00:19:29,770 --> 00:19:33,550 of the hip the hip up-to-date 399 00:19:31,690 --> 00:19:36,190 cutting-edge art that was being churned 400 00:19:33,550 --> 00:19:38,410 out here all the time then but often 401 00:19:36,190 --> 00:19:40,450 found myself secretly yearning for the 402 00:19:38,410 --> 00:19:42,690 old stuff the abstract expressionist 403 00:19:40,450 --> 00:19:42,690 stuff 404 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:49,980 the Abstract Expressionists moment was 405 00:19:47,010 --> 00:19:52,530 the 1950s it was an existential moment 406 00:19:49,980 --> 00:19:55,200 it was all deep anguished pained 407 00:19:52,530 --> 00:19:58,049 late-night soul-searching there was a 408 00:19:55,200 --> 00:20:00,299 life of woozi Busey semi intellectual or 409 00:19:58,049 --> 00:20:04,740 intermittently intellectual existential 410 00:20:00,299 --> 00:20:07,290 loneliness this is the cedar tavern New 411 00:20:04,740 --> 00:20:08,790 York's famous bar where Jackson Pollock 412 00:20:07,290 --> 00:20:11,400 and the Abstract Expressionists used to 413 00:20:08,790 --> 00:20:13,679 come and drink in the 1950s actually 414 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,590 it's not the cedar but a remake put up 415 00:20:13,679 --> 00:20:19,110 after the original tavern burnt down in 416 00:20:15,590 --> 00:20:21,390 1963 to this day people still come here 417 00:20:19,110 --> 00:20:24,179 in search of the abstract expressionist 418 00:20:21,390 --> 00:20:26,340 myth expecting to find it steaming off 419 00:20:24,179 --> 00:20:27,840 the tables perhaps come out and fight 420 00:20:26,340 --> 00:20:29,549 the Abstract Expressionists used to 421 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,020 growl at each other when they met here 422 00:20:29,549 --> 00:20:33,179 they'd rip the doors off the hinges 423 00:20:31,020 --> 00:20:35,370 Jackson Pollock actually did that one 424 00:20:33,179 --> 00:20:37,770 night they punch each other and insult 425 00:20:35,370 --> 00:20:39,929 each other and say I'm more sincere than 426 00:20:37,770 --> 00:20:42,179 you or I'm more authentic than you or 427 00:20:39,929 --> 00:20:44,580 I'm more existentially tortured than you 428 00:20:42,179 --> 00:20:46,320 or I've had all your women which was one 429 00:20:44,580 --> 00:20:48,150 famous insult that the art critic 430 00:20:46,320 --> 00:20:49,860 Clement Greenberg was supposed to have 431 00:20:48,150 --> 00:20:52,080 hurled at the painter Willem de Kooning 432 00:20:49,860 --> 00:20:53,669 in a drunken brawl like many of these 433 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,980 myths it turned out to be only partly 434 00:20:53,669 --> 00:20:57,480 true as Greenberg later revealed there 435 00:20:55,980 --> 00:20:59,100 was only one of de Kooning's women he 436 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:02,070 liked and that was de Kooning's wife 437 00:20:59,100 --> 00:21:04,440 Elaine de Kooning but in all this macho 438 00:21:02,070 --> 00:21:06,540 comedy there was tragedy and there was 439 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:10,260 pay fuss and that was what was going on 440 00:21:06,540 --> 00:21:15,929 in Jackson Pollock's head it was a very 441 00:21:10,260 --> 00:21:19,080 angry person a very unhappy person he'd 442 00:21:15,929 --> 00:21:23,040 be very subdued running the sober but 443 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:25,230 when he had when he got drunk found the 444 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:29,640 aggression would come out and he would 445 00:21:25,230 --> 00:21:33,419 be very very difficult very aggressive 446 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:35,400 when he going to the seat of I'd say you 447 00:21:33,419 --> 00:21:40,160 [ __ ] [ __ ] you think you're painters 448 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:40,160 you don't know what anything is 449 00:21:40,490 --> 00:21:47,460 self-destructiveness was overwhelming 450 00:21:44,660 --> 00:21:49,169 Pollock Sartre was a mystery art of pure 451 00:21:47,460 --> 00:21:51,450 abstraction there was nothing in it 452 00:21:49,169 --> 00:21:53,340 except art it made sense to him as a 453 00:21:51,450 --> 00:21:55,290 natural development from the Picasso 454 00:21:53,340 --> 00:21:57,150 system but he found the process of 455 00:21:55,290 --> 00:21:58,500 getting it over to the public by playing 456 00:21:57,150 --> 00:22:01,200 up to the media 457 00:21:58,500 --> 00:22:05,220 mad making it resulted in a Polock who 458 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:06,840 was alienated from himself nowadays we 459 00:22:05,220 --> 00:22:08,640 find it normal for modern art to be in 460 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,410 the papers a lot and for the stories 461 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,630 about it to be all exaggeration and 462 00:22:10,410 --> 00:22:14,880 rubbish from outright jeering to 463 00:22:12,630 --> 00:22:17,960 accolade overdrive but that was all new 464 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,960 in Pollock's time 465 00:22:25,030 --> 00:22:30,130 his escape from art world hysteria was 466 00:22:27,850 --> 00:22:32,680 his home here in East Hampton three 467 00:22:30,130 --> 00:22:35,340 hours drive from Manhattan he lived here 468 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:37,930 with his wife the artist Lee Krasner 469 00:22:35,340 --> 00:22:39,970 every week he went into New York to see 470 00:22:37,930 --> 00:22:42,880 his analyst to hang around with artists 471 00:22:39,970 --> 00:22:45,520 and critics and then he came back here 472 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:49,030 to paint and to worry worried about who 473 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:53,770 he was and what his status was why was 474 00:22:49,030 --> 00:22:56,110 he so popular anyway he was thought to 475 00:22:53,770 --> 00:22:57,640 be a wild painter he painted on the 476 00:22:56,110 --> 00:22:59,680 floor because he was wild 477 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:02,470 he used cheap household paints because 478 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:04,390 it was rough and tough in fact he used 479 00:23:02,470 --> 00:23:07,120 quite expensive household paints because 480 00:23:04,390 --> 00:23:09,370 they got the effect he wanted he got the 481 00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:12,160 paint out of the tins onto the canvas in 482 00:23:09,370 --> 00:23:14,830 big sweeping loops using sticks are old 483 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,150 dried-up hardened brushes but he didn't 484 00:23:14,830 --> 00:23:18,580 just get it all on there at once 485 00:23:16,150 --> 00:23:21,520 he worked in stages building up an image 486 00:23:18,580 --> 00:23:24,070 it isn't wild art it's deliberate 487 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:25,930 sophisticated art it's good art but 488 00:23:24,070 --> 00:23:28,510 there is wildness in it and that's why 489 00:23:25,930 --> 00:23:30,670 it's great art spontaneity chance 490 00:23:28,510 --> 00:23:33,460 ugliness are all definitely in there 491 00:23:30,670 --> 00:23:36,010 making something new something graceful 492 00:23:33,460 --> 00:23:38,590 and delicate and odd which even today we 493 00:23:36,010 --> 00:23:41,080 can't quite pin down however blase we 494 00:23:38,590 --> 00:23:43,380 think we are about the myth of Jackson 495 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,380 Pollock 496 00:23:46,140 --> 00:23:48,200 you 497 00:23:59,830 --> 00:24:04,940 this is the real Pollock really painting 498 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:07,070 but it's also the mythic Pollock 499 00:24:04,940 --> 00:24:09,799 painting for the camera like Picasso 500 00:24:07,070 --> 00:24:12,259 playing to the camera Picasso is at ease 501 00:24:09,799 --> 00:24:14,149 with being a showman but Pollock wasn't 502 00:24:12,259 --> 00:24:18,559 perhaps because it was the wrong show 503 00:24:14,149 --> 00:24:20,960 thing I always think it's odd how 504 00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:24,080 delicate everything looks here one tough 505 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:26,240 it all is by the time this film was made 506 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,220 Pollock's dream of art had started to 507 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,279 turn into a nightmare nothing was real 508 00:24:28,220 --> 00:24:34,039 everything was constructed around him I 509 00:24:30,279 --> 00:24:40,940 don't think that he had a terribly large 510 00:24:34,039 --> 00:24:47,139 ego but he performed a lot in order to 511 00:24:40,940 --> 00:24:52,009 get attention he wasn't an intellectual 512 00:24:47,139 --> 00:24:58,190 he was he was charming and attractive 513 00:24:52,009 --> 00:25:02,659 but very shy actually not a big ladies 514 00:24:58,190 --> 00:25:06,409 man that only really dominated him you 515 00:25:02,659 --> 00:25:10,100 know he was submissive and she was 516 00:25:06,409 --> 00:25:14,330 aggressive she was aggressive in all her 517 00:25:10,100 --> 00:25:19,490 relationships but he had this old barn 518 00:25:14,330 --> 00:25:21,919 for a studio but Lee had to work 519 00:25:19,490 --> 00:25:23,869 upstairs in a small room you're her 520 00:25:21,919 --> 00:25:27,740 painting that's true but that was her 521 00:25:23,869 --> 00:25:31,009 choice I mean she was thought that 522 00:25:27,740 --> 00:25:34,539 Jackson was a great painter a great 523 00:25:31,009 --> 00:25:38,110 artist and she devoted herself to that 524 00:25:34,539 --> 00:25:42,769 proposition what Lee did she decided 525 00:25:38,110 --> 00:25:44,480 that if he had some success that he 526 00:25:42,769 --> 00:25:46,600 would have more confidence and he 527 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:50,779 wouldn't get into these terrible 528 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:53,029 depressions and drinking and so on and I 529 00:25:50,779 --> 00:25:55,639 think it started out well when they 530 00:25:53,029 --> 00:25:59,419 moved here and it really worked out very 531 00:25:55,639 --> 00:26:00,850 well for a while she cultivated everyone 532 00:25:59,419 --> 00:26:04,570 who could be helpful to him 533 00:26:00,850 --> 00:26:08,140 the worldly way and rather isolated him 534 00:26:04,570 --> 00:26:20,140 from his real friends and I think that 535 00:26:08,140 --> 00:26:21,850 was a mistake as artificial as it is I 536 00:26:20,140 --> 00:26:24,070 think this famous film is the most 537 00:26:21,850 --> 00:26:26,710 touching film ever of an artist working 538 00:26:24,070 --> 00:26:29,770 was a very unnatural self-conscious 539 00:26:26,710 --> 00:26:32,370 awkward process to make it but every 540 00:26:29,770 --> 00:26:35,080 image of Pollock is full of tenderness 541 00:26:32,370 --> 00:26:36,730 he agreed to paint on glass so the 542 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:42,550 camera could be literally within a 543 00:26:36,730 --> 00:26:44,320 picture developing Pollock had been on 544 00:26:42,550 --> 00:26:46,000 the wagon for two years but he was 545 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,950 driven back to drink by the pressure of 546 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,110 making this film at the end of the last 547 00:26:47,950 --> 00:26:52,120 day of shooting he knocked back tumblers 548 00:26:50,110 --> 00:26:54,610 of whiskey and started shoving the film 549 00:26:52,120 --> 00:26:58,860 maker and snappeth you're a phony he 550 00:26:54,610 --> 00:26:58,860 shouted I'm not a phony you're a phony 551 00:27:00,450 --> 00:27:05,999 but the fact is that the film was a lie 552 00:27:02,850 --> 00:27:08,669 in his drunken rage with mammoth [ __ ] 553 00:27:05,999 --> 00:27:11,039 was expressing a real anxiety he really 554 00:27:08,669 --> 00:27:24,090 couldn't work anymore it reached a point 555 00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:25,590 where his ideas were just dried up by 556 00:27:24,090 --> 00:27:27,480 the mid fifties Pollock had had 557 00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:29,999 exhibitions in New York and all over 558 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:32,159 Europe his art was argued about by the 559 00:27:29,999 --> 00:27:33,570 most powerful critics in America 560 00:27:32,159 --> 00:27:36,840 it'd been on the cover of Life magazine 561 00:27:33,570 --> 00:27:38,669 he was world famous and yet he didn't 562 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:42,629 know where to go he said he'd been in 563 00:27:38,669 --> 00:27:44,249 life but all he knew about was death he 564 00:27:42,629 --> 00:27:46,799 didn't know what was happening to him he 565 00:27:44,249 --> 00:27:49,289 was disoriented he was in despair he 566 00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:52,109 told Lee to think of his eraser bility 567 00:27:49,289 --> 00:27:55,139 his violence his drinking as a storm 568 00:27:52,109 --> 00:27:58,440 that it would soon blow over and then on 569 00:27:55,139 --> 00:28:03,029 the night of the 11th of August 1956 it 570 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:05,279 did Lee was in Europe [ __ ] was in a 571 00:28:03,029 --> 00:28:08,220 car with Ruth Kligman his lover and 572 00:28:05,279 --> 00:28:10,499 Edith Metzker Ruth's friend it was an 573 00:28:08,220 --> 00:28:13,320 Oldsmobile it just got an exchange for 574 00:28:10,499 --> 00:28:15,419 two small paintings Pollock was driving 575 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:18,149 and he was drunk he was driving at 80 576 00:28:15,419 --> 00:28:19,980 miles an hour a car came to a curve in 577 00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:22,049 the road a spot Holland knew very well 578 00:28:19,980 --> 00:28:24,960 because it was only a few yards from his 579 00:28:22,049 --> 00:28:27,619 house but he failed to slow down instead 580 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:30,359 the car sped into a group of oak trees 581 00:28:27,619 --> 00:28:30,989 it ran up one of the trees and flipped 582 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,580 over 583 00:28:30,989 --> 00:28:35,009 Edith Metzger had been in the back 584 00:28:32,580 --> 00:28:37,289 hanging onto the safety strap calling 585 00:28:35,009 --> 00:28:39,299 out to Pollock to slow down was rammed 586 00:28:37,289 --> 00:28:41,429 into the trunk of the car and crushed to 587 00:28:39,299 --> 00:28:43,109 death Kligman and Pollock were each 588 00:28:41,429 --> 00:28:45,210 thrown from the car 589 00:28:43,109 --> 00:28:47,549 Kligerman suffered a fractured pelvis 590 00:28:45,210 --> 00:28:50,239 but Pollock collided with a tree 591 00:28:47,549 --> 00:28:50,239 headfirst 592 00:28:53,100 --> 00:29:02,260 it was too sensitive to criticism that 593 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:04,920 was bad I think he was someone so so he 594 00:29:02,260 --> 00:29:11,130 had no skin to protect him you know 595 00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:15,040 everything would would get out him and I 596 00:29:11,130 --> 00:29:20,470 think that the success was both good and 597 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:22,600 bad because he had gained confidence but 598 00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:24,460 it was always exaggerated you know that 599 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:29,520 he was the only painter and all that 600 00:29:24,460 --> 00:29:29,520 which still was obviously insecure 601 00:29:37,060 --> 00:29:42,350 why do I not care about all the Picasso 602 00:29:39,890 --> 00:29:44,660 myths so much but want all the Pollock 603 00:29:42,350 --> 00:29:46,940 myths there's so many things already in 604 00:29:44,660 --> 00:29:49,820 Picasso's art so few in Jackson 605 00:29:46,940 --> 00:29:53,090 Pollock's just a misty space a sublime 606 00:29:49,820 --> 00:29:54,890 nothingness we want the sublime but we 607 00:29:53,090 --> 00:29:57,770 want it to be attached to something if 608 00:29:54,890 --> 00:30:00,440 it's Tanner we want a storm at sea with 609 00:29:57,770 --> 00:30:02,810 Pollock we want the car crash we feel 610 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:05,390 we're really getting something then the 611 00:30:02,810 --> 00:30:16,040 last big story of Pollock's life its 612 00:30:05,390 --> 00:30:18,620 descent into chaos and death welcome 613 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:21,800 back to the modern art tour this is 614 00:30:18,620 --> 00:30:24,820 Planet hotdog continent burger the 615 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,820 country candy 616 00:30:26,309 --> 00:30:34,469 what's this got to do with art or we 617 00:30:28,979 --> 00:30:38,009 landed wrong place Coney Island a 618 00:30:34,469 --> 00:30:40,559 complete art free zone there aren't any 619 00:30:38,009 --> 00:30:44,969 big ideas here just fantastic 620 00:30:40,559 --> 00:30:47,580 blow pot mass drops who is responsible 621 00:30:44,969 --> 00:30:52,529 for collapsing this stuff into the world 622 00:30:47,580 --> 00:30:54,929 of high culture one man Andy do you feel 623 00:30:52,529 --> 00:30:58,559 that the public has insulted your art uh 624 00:30:54,929 --> 00:31:01,080 no why not uh oh I hadn't thought about 625 00:30:58,559 --> 00:31:04,919 it it doesn't bother you at all VIN 626 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:06,509 uh no Andy do you think that pop art has 627 00:31:04,919 --> 00:31:09,599 sort of reached the point where it's 628 00:31:06,509 --> 00:31:11,820 becoming repetitious now all right yes 629 00:31:09,599 --> 00:31:15,629 do you think it should break away from 630 00:31:11,820 --> 00:31:19,309 being pop art no are you just going to 631 00:31:15,629 --> 00:31:19,309 carry on yes 632 00:31:28,380 --> 00:31:34,720 here's Warhol with his icons of modern 633 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:37,600 life modern celebrity modern glamour 634 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,520 modern sexiness when I first saw a 635 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:41,830 Warhol like everyone else probably I 636 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:45,610 couldn't see why it was art was a photo 637 00:31:41,830 --> 00:31:47,500 show we hear about his great color and 638 00:31:45,610 --> 00:31:50,920 he is great at that but what we first 639 00:31:47,500 --> 00:31:54,430 see are things objects soup cans or 640 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:58,120 Marilyn Monroe or Jackie Kennedy Jackie 641 00:31:54,430 --> 00:32:02,020 multiplied by a million its Gideon Liz 642 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:04,390 Taylor why is that heart when Warhol was 643 00:32:02,020 --> 00:32:06,220 first becoming famous he was asked what 644 00:32:04,390 --> 00:32:09,370 he thought about Abstract Expressionism 645 00:32:06,220 --> 00:32:11,470 he just said art is dead did he think he 646 00:32:09,370 --> 00:32:12,760 had killed our himself or did it just 647 00:32:11,470 --> 00:32:14,860 die on its own 648 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,200 we certainly associate his name with a 649 00:32:14,860 --> 00:32:20,350 big question mark hanging over it after 650 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:23,290 Marilyn's in 1962 he painted a lot of 651 00:32:20,350 --> 00:32:25,510 Elvis Presley's in 1963 he painted 652 00:32:23,290 --> 00:32:29,050 double Elvis's and single Elvis's and 653 00:32:25,510 --> 00:32:34,060 triple Elvis's this one his 11 Elvis's 654 00:32:29,050 --> 00:32:36,850 all different and all the same he 655 00:32:34,060 --> 00:32:39,220 painted the whole series very quickly he 656 00:32:36,850 --> 00:32:40,990 painted 50 of them in an afternoon but 657 00:32:39,220 --> 00:32:43,060 the studio was leaking and they were 658 00:32:40,990 --> 00:32:45,940 spoiled slightly so just painted them 659 00:32:43,060 --> 00:32:47,890 all again all the things that in the 660 00:32:45,940 --> 00:32:51,130 abstract expressionist days were assumed 661 00:32:47,890 --> 00:32:53,170 to justify art's difficulty its 662 00:32:51,130 --> 00:32:56,110 specialness its sensitivity its 663 00:32:53,170 --> 00:32:59,770 unrepeatable 'ti its complexity and 664 00:32:56,110 --> 00:33:01,960 depth he was happy to throw away being 665 00:32:59,770 --> 00:33:05,380 famous and being recognized he thought 666 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:07,210 were better it's one thing to have that 667 00:33:05,380 --> 00:33:08,890 thought and the people he hung out with 668 00:33:07,210 --> 00:33:11,080 had thoughts like that all the time 669 00:33:08,890 --> 00:33:13,450 because they were stoned or drunk 670 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:16,840 but what Warhol was good at was showing 671 00:33:13,450 --> 00:33:19,690 what that thought might actually look 672 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:24,010 like he had always been interested in 673 00:33:19,690 --> 00:33:25,540 glamour from the time of seeing movies 674 00:33:24,010 --> 00:33:27,940 from Hollywood in the photo play 675 00:33:25,540 --> 00:33:31,180 magazines he always thought there was 676 00:33:27,940 --> 00:33:36,760 such a great glamor and magic about 677 00:33:31,180 --> 00:33:39,220 being a star and I think he 678 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,260 directed himself to find out what was 679 00:33:39,220 --> 00:33:43,180 glamour you know and how could I put it 680 00:33:41,260 --> 00:33:45,790 in a can and then just paint it around 681 00:33:43,180 --> 00:33:48,150 actually paint glamour in a room or on a 682 00:33:45,790 --> 00:33:48,150 canvas 683 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,510 Warhol famously came from the wrong side 684 00:33:51,740 --> 00:33:56,540 of the tracks where there wasn't any 685 00:33:53,510 --> 00:33:59,210 glamour this is Pittsburgh where Warhol 686 00:33:56,540 --> 00:34:00,920 was born in 1928 he lived here with his 687 00:33:59,210 --> 00:34:02,510 mother and father who came over from 688 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,430 Czechoslovakia and you could hardly 689 00:34:02,510 --> 00:34:07,100 speak any English and his two brothers 690 00:34:04,430 --> 00:34:12,590 John and Paul it was a simple 691 00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:14,750 working-class life Warhol was always ill 692 00:34:12,590 --> 00:34:19,310 as a child and read movie magazines in 693 00:34:14,750 --> 00:34:23,140 bed and their chocolates I used to go 694 00:34:19,310 --> 00:34:25,580 out and buy him move movie star 695 00:34:23,140 --> 00:34:28,640 magazines you know different theater 696 00:34:25,580 --> 00:34:32,419 magazines which he got three faun 697 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:36,350 doggies to cut out the pictures and then 698 00:34:32,419 --> 00:34:38,780 later on he says Paul how can I get some 699 00:34:36,350 --> 00:34:40,880 of these movie stars autograph yeah now 700 00:34:38,780 --> 00:34:43,700 and I says well I'll write to him you 701 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:47,179 know so I wrote a lot of movie stars and 702 00:34:43,700 --> 00:34:49,040 a lot of them responded especially like 703 00:34:47,179 --> 00:34:52,340 Shirley temple's she sent them an 704 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:55,460 eight-by-ten photographed Andrew Arjona 705 00:34:52,340 --> 00:35:09,410 from Shirley Temple you know he prized 706 00:34:55,460 --> 00:35:10,640 that when I talked to Paul I don't feel 707 00:35:09,410 --> 00:35:12,710 it's all that different to talking to 708 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:14,840 anyone he doesn't know who Warhol was 709 00:35:12,710 --> 00:35:17,090 any more than anyone else because the 710 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:21,640 artificial genius war hole that every 711 00:35:17,090 --> 00:35:25,090 one more or less knows is all he knows - 712 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,090 I'm calling 713 00:35:27,330 --> 00:35:32,850 a Warhol killed off his real self to 714 00:35:30,690 --> 00:35:34,620 make room for his art self-made 715 00:35:32,850 --> 00:35:37,080 production line art because that was 716 00:35:34,620 --> 00:35:39,180 America and made himself into a parody 717 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,490 genius because that was art that was 718 00:35:39,180 --> 00:35:44,490 bacastow and jetsam Pollock geniuses 719 00:35:41,490 --> 00:35:47,310 have expressed themselves Warhol made a 720 00:35:44,490 --> 00:35:49,620 new self to fit the new world expressing 721 00:35:47,310 --> 00:35:51,210 his new artificial self his brainwashed 722 00:35:49,620 --> 00:35:53,550 American consumer itself 723 00:35:51,210 --> 00:35:55,260 he was vividly expressing the world he 724 00:35:53,550 --> 00:36:02,790 was the world in all its ordinariness 725 00:35:55,260 --> 00:36:04,830 and strangeness he had to keep the new 726 00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:07,050 invented self going though he had his 727 00:36:04,830 --> 00:36:09,120 own manual which he wrote himself his 728 00:36:07,050 --> 00:36:12,390 famous book and he Warhol's philosophy 729 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:14,010 from A to B leaned back again enjoyed it 730 00:36:12,390 --> 00:36:15,390 with his student and expect on the 731 00:36:14,010 --> 00:36:17,370 coming round one of his aisles and 732 00:36:15,390 --> 00:36:20,430 reading extracts from it at any moment 733 00:36:17,370 --> 00:36:23,250 this ironic easy-listening soundtrack is 734 00:36:20,430 --> 00:36:25,440 anything to go by when you want to be 735 00:36:23,250 --> 00:36:27,390 like something it means you really love 736 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,580 it when you want to be like a rock you 737 00:36:27,390 --> 00:36:34,830 really love that book I love plastic 738 00:36:29,580 --> 00:36:36,780 idols what makes a painting beautiful is 739 00:36:34,830 --> 00:36:39,720 the way the paint's put on but I don't 740 00:36:36,780 --> 00:36:41,490 understand how women put on makeup it 741 00:36:39,720 --> 00:36:43,890 gets on your lips and it's so heavy 742 00:36:41,490 --> 00:36:46,470 lipstick and makeup and powder and 743 00:36:43,890 --> 00:36:50,010 shadow creams and jewelry it's also 744 00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:51,570 heavy I have a fantasy about money and 745 00:36:50,010 --> 00:36:54,600 walking down the streets and I hear 746 00:36:51,570 --> 00:36:58,200 somebody say in a whisper there goes the 747 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:59,820 richest person in the world Andy always 748 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,380 said everything more everything is on 749 00:36:59,820 --> 00:37:03,210 the surface just look there and you'll 750 00:37:01,380 --> 00:37:06,690 see everything that's there he didn't 751 00:37:03,210 --> 00:37:13,320 have an intention to be heavy materials 752 00:37:06,690 --> 00:37:14,310 wise or to be deep image wise he liked 753 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:18,540 being surface 754 00:37:14,310 --> 00:37:20,460 he was audacious and somehow he knew 755 00:37:18,540 --> 00:37:20,940 that what he was doing was right on 756 00:37:20,460 --> 00:37:23,070 point 757 00:37:20,940 --> 00:37:26,390 it was always exactly what needed to be 758 00:37:23,070 --> 00:37:28,620 done at that exact time and it was 759 00:37:26,390 --> 00:37:32,300 beyond being hip 760 00:37:28,620 --> 00:37:32,300 and call even it was genius 761 00:37:48,630 --> 00:37:50,690 you 762 00:37:53,290 --> 00:37:58,450 Wahl is sometimes thought of as a light 763 00:37:56,260 --> 00:38:00,640 and breezy artist sometimes as a rather 764 00:37:58,450 --> 00:38:03,040 dark one I think of him as pretty dark 765 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:05,490 even at his lightest and breezy 766 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:09,190 this installation silver pillows from 767 00:38:05,490 --> 00:38:11,710 1966 its walls take on the ultra 768 00:38:09,190 --> 00:38:14,710 seriousness of minimalist sculpture of a 769 00:38:11,710 --> 00:38:17,790 time but also it's a complete negative 770 00:38:14,710 --> 00:38:21,070 couldn't care less comment upon it is 771 00:38:17,790 --> 00:38:23,470 pink and yellow cow wallpaper from the 772 00:38:21,070 --> 00:38:26,530 same exhibition exhibited here exactly 773 00:38:23,470 --> 00:38:29,740 as it was then in a room adjacent to his 774 00:38:26,530 --> 00:38:31,810 silver floaty pillows is an up yours too 775 00:38:29,740 --> 00:38:34,740 contemporary abstract painting with its 776 00:38:31,810 --> 00:38:37,150 abstruse theories of color and flatness 777 00:38:34,740 --> 00:38:40,120 Warhol's own paintings go from 778 00:38:37,150 --> 00:38:42,310 aggressive pastiche of the nights his 779 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:45,730 version of lovely Impressionism is both 780 00:38:42,310 --> 00:38:49,090 gorgeous and sarcastic to stark 781 00:38:45,730 --> 00:38:52,990 revelations of the horrible his death 782 00:38:49,090 --> 00:38:55,300 and disaster series wall took everything 783 00:38:52,990 --> 00:38:57,130 the mass media had to offer as if it was 784 00:38:55,300 --> 00:38:59,250 messages from the gods and the gods 785 00:38:57,130 --> 00:39:01,750 always have a lot to say about death 786 00:38:59,250 --> 00:39:04,060 Warhol himself was a regular churchgoer 787 00:39:01,750 --> 00:39:06,990 so it's only right he should feel at 788 00:39:04,060 --> 00:39:09,460 home with religions big subject the end 789 00:39:06,990 --> 00:39:11,710 with everything he does there's the 790 00:39:09,460 --> 00:39:14,230 witty idea often given to him by 791 00:39:11,710 --> 00:39:16,420 somebody else as it was in the case of 792 00:39:14,230 --> 00:39:19,180 the death and disaster series but also 793 00:39:16,420 --> 00:39:21,940 the cleverness and stylishness of the 794 00:39:19,180 --> 00:39:24,820 ideas execution like picking the right 795 00:39:21,940 --> 00:39:28,090 title and the right scale for this 796 00:39:24,820 --> 00:39:30,010 painting called foot and tire just big 797 00:39:28,090 --> 00:39:34,240 enough for the foot to be registered 798 00:39:30,010 --> 00:39:37,240 beneath the tire at a glance and picking 799 00:39:34,240 --> 00:39:40,420 the right news photo car crash for this 800 00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:42,550 painting called 5 deaths 5 teenage 801 00:39:40,420 --> 00:39:44,710 corpses are leaning on the grass looking 802 00:39:42,550 --> 00:39:47,170 out their eyes wide open as if they're 803 00:39:44,710 --> 00:39:50,550 feeling fine but in fact they're crushed 804 00:39:47,170 --> 00:39:54,700 mangled and covered with blood 805 00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:58,800 ambulance disaster the one vehicle you'd 806 00:39:54,700 --> 00:40:00,640 think you'd feel safe in and white 807 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:03,760 burning car 808 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:05,340 the repeated news photo image shows the 809 00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:08,370 burning car 810 00:40:05,340 --> 00:40:12,570 and the driver grotesquely hanging from 811 00:40:08,370 --> 00:40:15,150 telegraph pole a casual passerby not 812 00:40:12,570 --> 00:40:17,630 just casually passing by and glancing at 813 00:40:15,150 --> 00:40:21,170 death but not even bothering to glance 814 00:40:17,630 --> 00:40:24,000 with the corresponding blank empty 815 00:40:21,170 --> 00:40:28,230 nothingness of the last section of the 816 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:31,380 series can we do a cheese movie all you 817 00:40:28,230 --> 00:40:33,540 have to do is say cheese cheese all 818 00:40:31,380 --> 00:40:36,090 right go the next book next year's war 819 00:40:33,540 --> 00:40:38,610 halt filming Susan Sontag frightening 820 00:40:36,090 --> 00:40:40,740 superbrain of the sixties asking her if 821 00:40:38,610 --> 00:40:44,100 she wants to be in a movie about cheese 822 00:40:40,740 --> 00:40:46,320 just what you're doing Warhol's 823 00:40:44,100 --> 00:40:48,990 paintings Warhol's films they're the 824 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:51,240 same they do the same thing it was part 825 00:40:48,990 --> 00:40:56,940 of Warhol's genius to realize that could 826 00:40:51,240 --> 00:41:02,520 be so can film be art were still asking 827 00:40:56,940 --> 00:41:05,490 that question today this is Andy 828 00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:07,950 Warhol's first film sleep made in 1963 829 00:41:05,490 --> 00:41:11,310 only a year after he first became famous 830 00:41:07,950 --> 00:41:12,110 as a painter just a man sleeping for 831 00:41:11,310 --> 00:41:14,400 eight hours 832 00:41:12,110 --> 00:41:16,800 Warhol used to go to underground films 833 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,690 all the time with the poet John John oh 834 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,790 he thought he could make when himself 835 00:41:18,690 --> 00:41:23,670 say bought a camera what should he film 836 00:41:20,790 --> 00:41:25,650 though Andy and I was sleeping together 837 00:41:23,670 --> 00:41:27,270 I was drunk you know like if the hay was 838 00:41:25,650 --> 00:41:29,040 about get up to take a piss and there 839 00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:31,590 would be Andy who's on speed you know 840 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:34,530 would be looking at me and I would say 841 00:41:31,590 --> 00:41:36,510 what are you doing he said watching and 842 00:41:34,530 --> 00:41:38,100 then I'd go to sleep and wake up again 843 00:41:36,510 --> 00:41:40,020 take another person and then he would 844 00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:42,150 sort of was that night for the lack of 845 00:41:40,020 --> 00:41:45,110 an idea what he was gonna make his a 846 00:41:42,150 --> 00:41:50,360 movie of was he got the idea of 847 00:41:45,110 --> 00:41:52,760 and then me sleeping war holeshot hours 848 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:55,640 of footage over different nights then he 849 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:57,020 got into a tangle editing it finally he 850 00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:59,270 just picked out the shots that 851 00:41:57,020 --> 00:42:02,210 brilliantly emphasized light and shade 852 00:41:59,270 --> 00:42:04,430 so the film wouldn't seem too gay to 853 00:42:02,210 --> 00:42:06,350 beat censorship laws and he made it 854 00:42:04,430 --> 00:42:09,020 eight hours long because that's how long 855 00:42:06,350 --> 00:42:14,240 sleep usually lasts to conform to arts 856 00:42:09,020 --> 00:42:15,950 structural laws in this film there is 857 00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:18,290 the palpable sense of one of the 858 00:42:15,950 --> 00:42:21,050 elements of Warhol's genius the way his 859 00:42:18,290 --> 00:42:23,720 art foreground sexuality like Picasso's 860 00:42:21,050 --> 00:42:27,220 does only of course not like it because 861 00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:30,920 Warhol was gay and because I wasn't 862 00:42:27,220 --> 00:42:32,960 great energy comes with sex and drugs 863 00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:35,150 just magnified him and he understood all 864 00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:37,010 that I mean Andy was on speed himself so 865 00:42:35,150 --> 00:42:39,860 he only so he could see everything with 866 00:42:37,010 --> 00:42:41,600 enormous clarity and then everyone else 867 00:42:39,860 --> 00:42:43,160 was on whatever drug of their choice was 868 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,020 and they will [ __ ] I mean it was grow 869 00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:48,220 everyone was either straight or gay was 870 00:42:45,020 --> 00:42:51,140 was a lot of sexuality and Andy totally 871 00:42:48,220 --> 00:42:53,570 when that was the attraction of for him 872 00:42:51,140 --> 00:42:55,550 to make movies I mean Andy didn't want 873 00:42:53,570 --> 00:42:58,720 to have sex he wanted to watch as we 874 00:42:55,550 --> 00:42:58,720 know he was a great lawyer 875 00:43:00,490 --> 00:43:06,050 here's [ __ ] made in the same year as 876 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:08,690 sleep another film with a minimal 877 00:43:06,050 --> 00:43:09,230 structure its reality but this is all 878 00:43:08,690 --> 00:43:11,300 you get 879 00:43:09,230 --> 00:43:13,930 it's the same frame for half an hour 880 00:43:11,300 --> 00:43:15,500 reality and abstraction coming together 881 00:43:13,930 --> 00:43:17,860 pardon my french 882 00:43:15,500 --> 00:43:17,860 aha 883 00:43:18,110 --> 00:43:23,400 it's a fine balance of elements lost on 884 00:43:21,240 --> 00:43:25,560 some people who quite understandably are 885 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:31,230 interested in the title but a bit bored 886 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:34,050 by the film I told Andy once in New York 887 00:43:31,230 --> 00:43:37,140 I says I'm going down to see one of your 888 00:43:34,050 --> 00:43:39,810 movies you know it's playing and he says 889 00:43:37,140 --> 00:43:42,330 look they charge $3 890 00:43:39,810 --> 00:43:44,220 he says you give me the three bucks and 891 00:43:42,330 --> 00:43:46,590 let me boot you in a rear-end he says 892 00:43:44,220 --> 00:43:50,100 don't waste your time on it so that was 893 00:43:46,590 --> 00:43:53,400 the answer that I got but it says some 894 00:43:50,100 --> 00:43:57,690 some of the family members were sort of 895 00:43:53,400 --> 00:44:01,020 critical about it you know my mother was 896 00:43:57,690 --> 00:44:03,660 very deeply in the village and she had 897 00:44:01,020 --> 00:44:05,850 faith in it and she brought Andy up 898 00:44:03,660 --> 00:44:08,520 halfway to and brought all of us that 899 00:44:05,850 --> 00:44:11,310 way I mean on numerous occasions when 900 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:15,270 we're up here and he's getting ready to 901 00:44:11,310 --> 00:44:17,490 leave and in hid yell mother I'm getting 902 00:44:15,270 --> 00:44:21,300 ready to leave come on in here and and 903 00:44:17,490 --> 00:44:24,870 pray with me and he knelt down in front 904 00:44:21,300 --> 00:44:27,210 of her altar and in in prayed you know 905 00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:29,840 for five or ten minutes and Andy would 906 00:44:27,210 --> 00:44:29,840 be on his way 907 00:44:36,350 --> 00:44:40,520 warhol's pictures of death how great 908 00:44:39,050 --> 00:44:42,710 they look even though they're only 909 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:45,260 silkscreen photos how great he could 910 00:44:42,710 --> 00:44:47,060 make that technique be nobody knows what 911 00:44:45,260 --> 00:44:52,490 he really thought about death these 912 00:44:47,060 --> 00:44:54,380 skulls pop death or death death they 913 00:44:52,490 --> 00:44:56,300 were painted ten years after he really 914 00:44:54,380 --> 00:44:58,970 did nearly die from an attempted 915 00:44:56,300 --> 00:45:01,580 assassination by Valerie Solanas the 916 00:44:58,970 --> 00:45:04,220 author of the scum manifesto the Society 917 00:45:01,580 --> 00:45:06,740 for cutting up men she came up to 918 00:45:04,220 --> 00:45:12,260 Warhol's famous factory studio and shot 919 00:45:06,740 --> 00:45:14,030 him one day in 1968 Warhol survived the 920 00:45:12,260 --> 00:45:15,950 shooting but for the rest of his life he 921 00:45:14,030 --> 00:45:19,730 suffered constant pain from the wounds 922 00:45:15,950 --> 00:45:22,640 which went on leaking horribly but then 923 00:45:19,730 --> 00:45:24,950 in February 1987 he did die tragically 924 00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:26,810 from simple neglect when his private 925 00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:29,690 nurse fell asleep following a routine 926 00:45:26,810 --> 00:45:33,070 gallbladder operation his tubes just 927 00:45:29,690 --> 00:45:33,070 clogged up and he died 928 00:45:37,690 --> 00:45:42,830 here we are again in a graveyard 929 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:46,580 morbidly obsessing over modern arts dead 930 00:45:42,830 --> 00:45:48,860 dad's Warhol was a genius but it was a 931 00:45:46,580 --> 00:45:51,110 new type of genius he was a genius at 932 00:45:48,860 --> 00:45:53,510 expressing what it felt like not to be 933 00:45:51,110 --> 00:45:55,820 sure what you felt at all it was a great 934 00:45:53,510 --> 00:45:58,880 psychologist he observed what drives 935 00:45:55,820 --> 00:46:01,400 people and excites them not the people 936 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:02,570 in his pictures and films the icons but 937 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,510 the people who wanted to look at them 938 00:46:02,570 --> 00:46:07,460 the public he wrote books and made 939 00:46:05,510 --> 00:46:09,620 movies and produce records and painted 940 00:46:07,460 --> 00:46:11,900 paintings a lot of it wasn't any good 941 00:46:09,620 --> 00:46:16,060 but he looked at a wasteland and said 942 00:46:11,900 --> 00:46:16,060 this is Modern Art and it was 943 00:46:24,310 --> 00:46:28,780 hi its young people's music but back in 944 00:46:26,590 --> 00:46:31,210 the now zone again people of the 90s 945 00:46:28,780 --> 00:46:34,750 Times Square acting out a fashion me 946 00:46:31,210 --> 00:46:37,330 acting modern uh-oh he has sent his man 947 00:46:34,750 --> 00:46:41,230 head filled with the past pondering the 948 00:46:37,330 --> 00:46:43,420 meaning of modernity is modern always 949 00:46:41,230 --> 00:46:45,280 modern does it run out is it something 950 00:46:43,420 --> 00:46:47,560 you get out the modern cupboard down and 951 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:51,130 polish or is it always frightening Lee 952 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:52,930 alive Warhol Pollock Picasso they all 953 00:46:51,130 --> 00:46:55,570 stand for radical breaks with the past 954 00:46:52,930 --> 00:46:57,850 ugliness instead of beauty America 955 00:46:55,570 --> 00:47:00,910 instead of Europe irony instead of 956 00:46:57,850 --> 00:47:03,610 anguish I am what I am because of them 957 00:47:00,910 --> 00:47:06,070 but now they're the past Andy Warhol 958 00:47:03,610 --> 00:47:10,930 became part of culture in about 1962 959 00:47:06,070 --> 00:47:13,600 what's happened since then this is 960 00:47:10,930 --> 00:47:16,540 millennium modern art Damien Hirst spots 961 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:19,600 in lot 61 the latest media hang out in 962 00:47:16,540 --> 00:47:21,370 New York I'm drunk now and jet-lagged 963 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,670 from time travel so I'm just talking 964 00:47:21,370 --> 00:47:23,980 rubbish 965 00:47:21,670 --> 00:47:25,960 but if you ask me what these spots say 966 00:47:23,980 --> 00:47:28,540 is that like Andy Warhol's silver 967 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:31,240 pillows we are a form of art of almost 968 00:47:28,540 --> 00:47:33,370 unbelievable weightlessness and yet we 969 00:47:31,240 --> 00:47:36,340 are quite good how can that be 970 00:47:33,370 --> 00:47:38,800 it's bright decorative eye stimulating 971 00:47:36,340 --> 00:47:40,840 exciting painting doing all the things a 972 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,970 painting should do but it's all done 973 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,890 mechanically with a compass and with the 974 00:47:42,970 --> 00:47:47,470 colors not even being filled in by 975 00:47:44,890 --> 00:47:49,630 Hearst but by an assistant so something 976 00:47:47,470 --> 00:47:52,060 is missing there's nothing to tell us 977 00:47:49,630 --> 00:47:54,130 what to feel it expresses our culture's 978 00:47:52,060 --> 00:47:57,250 anxiety about the role of painting now 979 00:47:54,130 --> 00:47:59,710 does it have one God has it come to this 980 00:47:57,250 --> 00:48:02,170 from Picasso's fabulous art of domestic 981 00:47:59,710 --> 00:48:05,230 life to all of modern are summed up in a 982 00:48:02,170 --> 00:48:06,550 restaurant art is dead said Warhol I am 983 00:48:05,230 --> 00:48:08,670 nature said Pollock 984 00:48:06,550 --> 00:48:12,270 I don't seek I find said Picasso 985 00:48:08,670 --> 00:48:12,270 vindaloo says 986 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:22,789 here we are back where we started at my 987 00:48:20,329 --> 00:48:24,680 studio a modern art greenhouse where 988 00:48:22,789 --> 00:48:27,019 modern art mines are cultivated and 989 00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:29,480 nurtured he is an artist painting a 990 00:48:27,019 --> 00:48:34,880 psychedelic modern garden this is modern 991 00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:36,500 art going on but being different Damien 992 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,150 Hirst isn't the last chapter 993 00:48:36,500 --> 00:48:40,369 he's just the leader of our present 994 00:48:38,150 --> 00:48:42,440 phase of modern art we're geniuses don't 995 00:48:40,369 --> 00:48:44,569 really exist but creativity and 996 00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,430 inventiveness and not being straight and 997 00:48:44,569 --> 00:48:50,569 having your own system and not being 998 00:48:46,430 --> 00:48:52,430 polite all still do and that's the 999 00:48:50,569 --> 00:48:54,470 answer to the thing we were wondering 1000 00:48:52,430 --> 00:48:56,750 last time we were at my ambiently 1001 00:48:54,470 --> 00:48:58,819 humming studio we like modern art 1002 00:48:56,750 --> 00:49:00,890 because we don't know what it is the 1003 00:48:58,819 --> 00:49:03,490 reason it keeps changing is to make sure 1004 00:49:00,890 --> 00:49:03,490 we never do 1005 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:24,940 this is modern art continues next week 1006 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:27,160 Thursday Ken Burns superb series jazz 1007 00:49:24,940 --> 00:49:29,859 continues with the music taking new 1008 00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:33,579 directions into the turbulent 60s join 1009 00:49:29,859 --> 00:49:35,230 us for jazz 9:30 Thursday nights stay 1010 00:49:33,579 --> 00:49:37,859 with us now for the history of sin 1011 00:49:35,230 --> 00:49:37,859 George's Chapel 76675

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