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(Native chanting)

(Native chanting)

- All right, you'll be all right.

My grandfather, too, he would tell the same story,

in that same area.

There was a horse, like a horse man.

So, there definitely is that creature out there.

So, they say these things can turn into wolves.

They turn into, you know, different creatures.

Cougars or whatever.

Whatever's available.

- My name is Tony Merkel.

Host of The Confessionals Podcast.

I've interviewed over 500 witnesses

to the strange and unexplained.

Last year, I assembled a team of like-minded guys

to come with me on a quest to document,

and even possibly experience,

some of these mysterious phenomena for ourselves.

- We started getting lights out here over the ridge.

- Here they come again.

- Here they come again.

- That gray container

was right here. - Correct.

- Look left, look left.

- Up there?

- They'll come from the west in the sky.

- So it's old news?

- It's old news, yeah.

- This kind of stuff is connected in some way.

- What if those guys, whoever was, that was a decoy.

- God created everything, including these UFOs.

Including all this phenomena.

God created it all.

- [Tony] In the summer of 2022,

the team got a chance at a trip of a lifetime

when a show guest, named Ryan, invited us to his property

called Space Wolf Research.

Located in Utah's Uintah Basin,

at the very doorstep of the infamous Sherman Ranch,

Space Wolf had already produced multiple reports

and evidence of strange happenings.

From skin walkers to UFOs.

- [Ryan] It's very interesting how I got into an area

that ended up being so restricted and locked down

later on, because it was so open back then.

But I had

succumbed to an injury.

I was a fishing guide.

I was driving around, I couldn't work or get my foot wet,

so I was driving around doing stuff.

I was coming down that road.

Something was coming down through there.

And I was like, "Ah, it looks like an elderly,

an elderly Native American."

I couldn't tell if it was a he or a she really.

Had a blanket over their head,

and came towards the truck.

And I rolled down the window and said,

"Hey, you want to get in?"

"Need a ride somewhere?"

They kind of mumbled something and just kind of grumbled in.

Jumped up into the truck.

And, within seconds, I was just in tears.

I didn't know what was going on.

My reality just totally changed.

The Bureau of Indian Affairs found me

near Bottle Hollow Reservoir,

and I was just kind of hanging outta my truck catatonic.

They thought I was drunk.

Did all the tests, they realized I wasn't.

And, asked me what happened.

And, when I told them, they explained to me

that I had been nabbed by the skin walker.

And that's the first time I'd ever heard that.

- [Tony] Seeking answers after his own encounter,

Ryan would purchase property bordering the Sherman Ranch

in an attempt to create what he would refer to

as a safe haven of sorts for the phenomena.

No guns.

No threats.

So, Ryan wants to create

a safe haven for all the activity in the area.

So, you know, if this stuff is conscious,

and it's bobbing, and weaving,

and ducking behind bushes or whatever

trying to avoid human contact,

well, he wants to create an environment on his properties

where it's just like a place where, consciously,

it's known to be a safe place where nothing's gonna happen.

You're not gonna get shot at kind of thing.

So, whether it's Bigfoot, shadow entities,

aliens, UFOs, portals,

they're welcome on his property.

And so, he has a no gun policy.

He doesn't want anybody having guns on the property.

Since episode 202, I've become pretty friendly with Ryan,

and I just, I respect him.

So, we're gonna follow his orders and his wishes,

and we're gonna do this

gun free.

So, it's gonna be interesting.

Hopefully, nothing too crazy happens

that we can't handle with a hatchet, but we'll see.

- So, show us the picture that we got.

- Oh, yeah.

Apparently, Christian's already there.

And, when they got to the ranch,

one of the shipping containers that's on the property

was picked up and moved.

But there was no drag marks when it was moved.

And there was no tire tracks, nothing around.

It was just mysteriously moved.

So, this is the picture that was sent, right here.

- Oh, I got it, I got it.

- That's the picture right there, which is nuts.

And you can tell there's no drag marks, like it was slid.

It was just picked up in the middle of the night and moved.

There was nothing on the property.

So,

yeah, this is what we're walking into.

Teleporting shipping containers,

and we haven't even got there yet.

So, I feel like we're on track to

see some wild stuff, I can tell you that.

- I appreciate your time.

- Oh, thank you.

Yeah, no problem.

No problem, it's part of my duty here.

- Yeah. - You know, I'm security.

- Right?

- So, anything that happens out here,

I'm supposed to be on top of it.

- [Ryan] I am absolutely baffled

with how a 9,000 pound container is

moved,

not so much as a blade of grass disturbed.

- Because there's no-

It looks like it was picked up and moved.

There's no scraping.

- Wasn't it by the building?

Right by the building?

- Yeah, it was next to the building,

and now it's the other way.

- It's turned, isn't it turned?

- It's completely turned as if it was lifted.

- I just noticed that.

I've never seen it out there like that.

- But I came out here and I go, "Oh."

- That gray container

was right here.

- Correct.

- And there's no skid marks it's been skid by, right?

- That end right there was right there.

- I mean, a couple years before, there was a 40 foot RV,

almost exactly where the container was that was vaporized

by what was, apparently, a daytime lightning bolt.

- Well, we have pictures of the lightning strike.

Ryan has them, I got 'em too.

And they estimated that a 12 foot bolt

hit the trailer and melted it.

- The lightning was getting kind of close,

and I told my husband, "We better go in the house."

"That's getting pretty close."

And then, boom, it hit right across the street.

And we called the fire department.

And it was melted down, that whole trailer, within seconds.

- This

went like this.

- So, it had to be lifted up.

Because there's no... But wait.

Here's the only, here's a little bit of evidence.

It wasn't lifted that high, 'cause it caught this rock.

Look, it caught that rock,

and it caught this one.

It caught those three.

It caught those rocks and moved them.

But

it had to be up high.

- What would it take to melt metal into rock?

I mean, would a lightning bolt do that?

- [Joseph] All right, so,

we've been here, on location, for,

I don't know, like six hours.

You're gonna freak out when you get here.

There's some stuff that's totally unexplainable already.

- Really?

- [Joseph] That we, yeah, we've had some of the neighbors,

they told us stuff that's gonna blow your mind.

Let me hear you, let me tell you this.

This is some of the words that we were told.

Giant redheaded cannibals.

- Giant redheaded, what? - What?

Whoo!

- Hold on a second.

Giant redheaded, what?

- Let's go, baby!

- [Joseph] And one of the,

Johnny, Native American Indian

that we've been hanging out with here,

told us about the giant redheaded cannibals.

You'll learn more about that.

Water babies that are evil.

- Yeah.

- [Joseph] And, what do you call 'em?

Star people?

The star people that fly.

- Let's go!

Oh, let's go!

Well, I'm just trying to find some gas

before we run out of gas.

Nothing major to see here.

- Where are we, Tony?

- I honestly don't know.

Kansas, I believe.

- This is WaKeeny.

- WaKeeny?

- This is downtown WaKeeny.

- Downtown WaKeeny is closed.

- How we doing?

- Oh, fantastic.

Oh.

- Yeah? - Fantastic.

- We'll be killed by a serial serial killer

before we even get there.

- Yeah.

- Geez, we're not worried about the skin walkers,

we're worried about,

we're worried about getting picked up in WaKeeny by,

by the guy from, so you think,

so I Know What You Did Last Summer, you know?

- WaKeeny looks like a

waste, like, there's nothing going on here.

I've never seen this empty of a town.

- It's what the WaKeeny Whacker wants you to think.

- [Tony] With Christian and Joseph

already reporting sightings,

we raced through the night to get there.

As the rest of the crew continued our 30 hour drive,

they settled in for their first night

at Space Wolf Research.

But, as we've always heard,

when the sun goes down, the land comes alive.

- I came out here to produce a movie.

I didn't plan on being in a movie.

I've seen these shows.

I'm a filmmaker.

But, when you have a real experience, like when we,

when we were looking through the binoculars

and you shot that film

through your

iPhone,

and then, you blew it up.

I dunno what that was flying through.

But then, last night,

last night was, that was it, man.

I don't, I just, I don't-

Listen, if he doesn't want to pay, I don't know.

I need some coffee though, maybe I'll feel different.

But, last night,

that was, there was a constant,

it wasn't a hum, it was more like a rolling growl.

Like a-

It was like if the valley was snoring.

It just kept going and going.

So much so, that I got outta my tent

and I went and I slept in my truck.

- [Tony] Arriving in Utah,

we knew we would be walking into a very active situation.

Not only had Christian and Joseph had a rough first night,

but according to locals, the last few days

had seen a spike in activity on the property.

Finally pulling into our campsite at Space Wolf,

we all felt heaviness and a surreal realization

that we stood on the doorstep of one of the most

infamous hubs of high strangeness in the world.

- Well, the first thing we did when we got here is we set up

looking out at the mesa there,

the binoculars

on a tripod.

And we were just hanging out looking.

And I saw,

and you'll see, right across here, is

some big solar panels.

But, from here, at first, it looked like a truck.

And then, there's a big tower-

And, what we figured out is, at night,

it solar panels that charge the light.

And so, at night there's a

red light and a white light.

And the white light turns, it blinks.

I think it's so, maybe, some planes don't hit the mesa.

Or I don't know.

But we've then, then Christian and I were just like,

"Let's see if we can hold our camera

up to the lens

of the binoculars.

And he started shooting.

And then, I said, "Did you get that?"

And an object went down, over, and straight up.

We only got the part of it crossing the,

crossing the frame.

Here, I'll show you.

What you're seeing right now is,

this is the binocular circle,

and then the camera pushed up against it, all right?

- Okay. - Now,

there's, that's what I'm focusing on.

That's the solar panels with the lights.

- Okay. - Right?

And, again, we were just like,

"Let's see what this place is like, I have no idea."

And, now watch this area right around here.

- Oh, shoot, sorry.

- I saw it. - Oh wow.

- Now, we slow it down.

- Huh.

- Wow. - Wow.

- Now we slow it down again and he pulls in on it.

- Wow, what is that?

Yeah, watch compared to that tree,

that whole tree right there.

- Yeah.

- It's pretty big.

- Yeah. - Yeah.

- Wow. - Wow.

- Is it looking almost like it's cloaking too.

- But then, once it left frame, it went-

And then, I couldn't see it anymore.

- And you saw it with your naked eye?

- I saw it with a naked guy.

He was holding his camera, that's your camera.

He was holding it there.

And, you know, he, you see how

he's trying to get it to like,

and we were just trying to get to see what this was.

To get video of this.

And I went, "Whoa, did you see that?"

And, he goes, "What?"

And he looked back, 'cause he knew something was there.

But I'm like, "It just went through and then up."

- Wow.

You know, and,

just a slightly different angle down lower,

we would've not been able to catch that on camera.

- Right.

- [Tony] Primed to expect the UFO activity

after seeing what Christian and Joseph had captured,

we decided to take a quick hike of the property

before it got dark.

As it would turn out, Space Wolf had something

altogether different waiting for us.

- We've been looking at this track way,

and these are

what we're seeing here.

This is obviously footprints going down this way.

This is one that we have,

we feel like has toes involved in it.

And, as it goes down here,

my personal thought is

it's almost as if somebody was standing here in the side

waiting to make sure it's all good.

Like, they were standing this way looking,

and then they turned and started going down this way.

And, as they went down, so like this foot here.

And then, you come out here and it's like one,

two.

And then, as we go here,

now, the footprints, these longer footprints,

are over, they're done.

And, now, we have these hoofs

that develop into the ground here.

And, as it goes all the way down here,

we've been able to track it

all the way to the fence.

And almost like it jumped the fence, then,

and went through the mound on the other side of the fence.

- Before any of the other stuff popped off,

that was the first interaction that we had,

that we knew that we were on

some weird, weird stuff.

- What do you guys make of the burns?

- Well, see, that's the weird thing, right?

Like, you're thinking maybe lightning,

but it's just burned all the way down.

- There's another tree over there.

- And it's burnt as well?

Oh, man.

- The lightning along the path is weird.

- It's all over it.

The whole path.

The one thing I will say, is there's no, like,

when lightning hits, it explodes the trees.

And there's no like exploded burned trees.

- Right, it's just like touched and burned.

- Do you think there could be that many lightning strikes?

Like, this close together?

- Yeah, but it's like it's cut with a burn.

Like this is burned through and through.

- Going into a chauffeur?

- That's the poster.

- Out here,

there's all these prints that went over

the mound here.

And, it's just a theory, but that, we found,

we followed the tracks coming over to this way.

And it was like something jumped over the fence,

and then went over that.

What doesn't make sense is, if it's an animal,

to me, I would think an animal would go around it.

I don't know why an animal would go over it.

So, when we came out here, the whole crew agreed

we wanted to really take the experiential narrative of

the Native American people that had lived in this area

for generations and put it front and center,

rather than doing the typical paranormal show thing,

with EMF meters

and trying to prove something scientifically.

We thought the continued experience of these people

was at least as much proof as any amount of

scientific data we could have gathered.

Bow Standing Rock and Johnny Gamiochipi were the two

tribal members that spent the most time with us.

And, when we found this set of tracks,

we were careful to ask each of them

to look at it independently,

so that one couldn't unintentionally sway the other.

- So, before we get down in here, and tell you,

and show you what we found,

can you just tell me a little bit

how you feel about this area?

Because, I know up there you said it kind of felt heavy.

- Yeah, just more heavier.

I think the more closer we get to around this area,

I think I just get more nervous.

- Because of the drill?

- Something, yeah.

- Okay. - I don't know.

- So, right down this trail is where the series of prints

start, that Joel and Ward found.

And so, we're gonna show you this,

and then we're gonna come down here

and I'm gonna show you what we found

with these tree branches that seems pretty bizarre.

- All right.

- But you're gonna see more of this scorched.

- Yeah.

That's interesting.

- Look at these prints here.

This is crazy, right?

- And as you go through here,

they're deep flat.

And, look, right here.

- Oh, man.

- Let's see.

Right here it changes.

He's going this way.

- We think so.

- He's going this way.

- Wow.

- So, it-

Do you see what we're looking at here?

As far as like, that it-

We want you to kind of give us your perspective,

'cause we don't wanna be making something out of nothing.

- This is what I noticed.

It's what we're casting tomorrow.

- Like, you could see how these,

like, this one to me looks like a hoof almost.

Like, almost like a horse or something.

- It does.

- And then, there's the canine.

- Th canine one's over there and it keeps going.

The left side, I think, is different than the right.

- Where, can you show me what you're pointing at?

- So, it has this step and that step, and it's a step there.

- But it's weird, though, how the

almost humanoid prints disappeared though.

- Yeah.

- They don't exist anymore in this range.

- Around that area.

As soon as it kind of gets into the clearing, you know?

- Right.

- As soon as it comes out of the brush.

Then it gets into these.

Like, it's hidden, where you can't see it,

even if you're over here, right there.

But, as soon as it comes out,

you don't see a person walking, you see a, whatever it is.

- Right.

- That, though, I don't know.

- What do you, what do you, I mean like-

- Transfer, this change like you were telling me.

I knew exactly what you're talking about,

'cause we've seen things

similar to that before.

- Yeah? - Yeah.

- Like, it stops there, and then it gradually,

as soon as it hits that point, and then it comes into these.

- Have you ever heard of-

Have you ever heard of shape shifters

transforming into horses?

- Yeah, tons of things.

- So it's just-

- Birds. - Just pretty much anything?

Any kind of animal it'd want to?

- Now, you said that

shape shifters can turn into horses.

- Yeah.

- We've been finding what seems to be

a lot of horse manure all over the place here.

- And you hardly see horses around here.

- We haven't seen one horse. - Exactly.

- And, actually,

there's a fresh pile next to the tree

that we just came in by,

and I just don't know if it's horse manure or not.

But, like, it looks,

I'm not touching it with my hands.

But it looks fresh, and it wasn't there just the other day.

- Like, going back to my history, my family history,

my grandfather would transform into

many different things.

Whatever the

circumstance that he needed.

You know, sometimes he would transform into a fox, coyote.

You know, a horse.

- So, like, as people who aren't from here and stuff,

I mean, we're not making a stretch or a leap here

by just by seeing that?

Obviously,

you know, we're out here looking for shape shifter.

But, I mean, to come across that just,

where'd the human prints go?

And where'd this horse pop up out of nowhere?

- Yeah.

Well, you can look at it like this.

You know,

why would these guys be out here doing this stuff, you know?

It's just like,

that's what I see.

They transform, that's what they do.

They come out to places like this.

And I mean-

I even, I don't like to talk about it too much,

'cause it sounds like it's really ridiculous.

But that's what they do.

They transform themselves into whatever entity, the animal

that they're trying to embody.

- And there's a lot of stories of

the Native Americans who used to

transform into those things would become birds and

fly over the forts and stuff.

And, you know, scout out

viewpoints and reference points for their tribal usage,

so they could,

you know, easily maneuver around those kinds of areas.

- So, that's, it's not ridiculous because

why are these transformation points out here?

You know, people run across them all the time.

A lot of people don't know what they are, you know?

But that's what they're doing here.

You know, we've had 'em like right near our homes.

Like tribal members have seen these transformations.

You know, have stumbled upon 'em out in the bush somewhere.

So, we know these things take place.

We don't talk about 'em.

And when we do, more times than not,

people think we're crazy, you know, crazy Indians.

But that's what occurs here is these things.

And, now, you get to see some of the things.

But, yeah, that would be one of the signs

that you would look for, is something transformational.

- [Tony] Finding a track way like this so early

was really unexpected.

But having both Bow and Johnny sharing

very similar perspectives really gave it

a lot more credibility in our mind.

Especially given that, a day prior,

Christian and Joseph had interviewed a neighbor

that actually reported watching

an entity of some sort enter the property.

- Have you had any weird, seen weird things or-

- I have.

I never used to believe in what they call skin walkers.

And, just right down the hill,

I was coming the other direction,

you know where it comes up to the,

almost the top of the hill?

There come this big wolf with legs this long,

and it was pure black.

And, its eyes, I can't describe as anything

except for like light in a light bulb,

but it was more like heat.

It didn't have pupils or anything.

And it just wanted me to see it.

And, you know, I mean it was looking at me the whole time,

and it wasn't even really touching the ground.

But yet it was walking, and it's so hard to describe it.

And it gives me chills too just to talk about it.

But it wasn't a scary thing to me.

And, it did, it just wanted me to see it.

It kept looking at me,

and then it just disappeared across the road.

And I was like, "Wow, that is strange."

And now I have a little bit

more open mind for stuff like that.

- Have you seen-

Is that the only time you've ever seen a wolf out here?

- Yeah.

That's the only time I've ever seen anything like that.

And I honestly didn't believe anybody.

I would take a lie detector test about that,

because, I mean, I did see it.

And I never believed stuff like that.

- Did you see any wild animals out here,

or anything like that?

- No, just

there's a lot of noise out here.

I mean, all night long.

- There are strange noises.

- It not-

With the oil fields and everything else,

and the traffic now from the oil fields,

I know pretty much what I'm hearing from around here.

But, inside of this house, just right here,

you're always hearing somebody outside.

I mean, if it's walking in the gravel,

or just

out in my yard.

- There's never anything there.

- Constantly getting up and going,

checking the door all the time.

And just looking out and seeing if I see anybody out there,

and never really is.

- Do you feel like there could be any connection

between that and this-

- I do. - Property out here?

And the walking around?

- Yeah, there's something going on outside all the time.

- Seems like it's a paranormal

dimension of some type of something, to me, you know?

I mean,

I don't understand a whole bunch about that kind of stuff,

but that's what I would take it as.

I'm not an expert or anything,

but I would take it, definitely, something

that is

not necessarily of this world but, yet,

you know, it is, but it isn't. Because it's obviously here.

I mean, that wolf thing was nothing but a shadow.

But it was in, you know, it was-

I always lose the ability to talk about it,

because it's so hard to describe or whatever.

He was just like a shadow, but it wasn't a shadow.

You could see it clear as day.

And, as soon as, you know, I looked at it,

and my head followed it across the street,

I mean, it just disappeared, it was gone.

- [Tony] As night fell, we had no idea what lay

waiting for us outside the reach of the fire's light

until an accidental discovery confirmed

we had somehow landed right at ground zero.

We might be in for a long night.

- Why?

- We might be in for a long couple nights.

We went down that trail where we saw the prints.

And we went back further looking for a place to

put the game trail cams.

We went across, we found a little bridge

to go back across the creek.

And we went back across the creek,

and went down around, 'cause we saw a tree that

would be a good spot to look over the trail.

I'm starting to hang it.

And, Ward,

he walks away.

And I turn around and look over, and I said to him,

"Is that what I think it is?"

And he's like, "Yep," and he's standing there.

And what I saw

I thought was a skull.

Like an antlers and stuff, you know?

And so, I was like, "Oh," you know?

And I turned to him and I said,

"It's kind of a little, getting a little eerie back here."

And he's like, "Yep."

And, when I got done hanging the camera,

he's now standing next to me,

and we're getting ready to walk away.

And I was like, lemme go check this out real quick,

because I wanted to see it.

When I walked up close to it,

I didn't realize at the time,

was it was a ritual circle.

And it had a couple different skulls.

It had a bowl in the middle of it.

And these are the, this is what it looked like.

Just pass it around.

There's a couple of pictures you can swipe through.

- It ties in with that

last story I told you in the interview.

With the rituals that have been happening around here.

- It was literally... Whoa.

- It was literally maybe like 30, 40 feet away

from where we were walking around this afternoon

on the other side of the creek.

- So, I wonder if that's connected

to what we saw with the footprints.

- That way or that way? - That way.

- That way.

- So I wonder if it's connected with

what we saw with the footprints?

- Maybe.

- Yeah.

- Be careful with that.

Stay away.

- How recent would you say that is?

- Could be an ongoing thing.

It looks like it's been a while probably.

So, it might be like this.

Maybe Ryan interrupted one of their spots.

This was their spot before he moved in, see?

So, maybe, in their mind, he's intruding on these,

the people who own this are intruding on their deal.

In their view.

So this might be just a statement of some sort.

"We're here and we're gonna stay here,"

or something like that.

It's a warfare.

It's a form of warfare.

You know, if you really think about it,

that's what it was utilized for.

So, when you see those things, that's,

when our people see that.

That's a sign of war against you.

They've invaded you,

and they've done their thing on your land.

They put their flag there, right?

That's what they've done.

- And you believe this connects with the possible prints?

- It does.

- It does connect? - It does, yeah.

- Yeah, you guys are in it now.

- You know, it almost looks like a crown of thorns.

Whoa.

- It was a little too dark to see what was-

- You guys gotta take me down there.

- Not tonight. - Not tonight?

- That's unbelievable man.

Get that, here, get, I don't want it.

I'll go wash my hands.

- Wow.

- Hey, we've got a light coming up from the mesa.

- Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We've got a light above the mesa.

Grab the binoculars.

- You might need to get your Ace out here.

I'm not quite sensitive enough to pick that up.

- Its going. - Oh, man.

- It's gone. - It's gone.

- That was a big light.

- I got it on camera. - You got it?

- I got a picture of it.

- Whatever that was-

- Well, there's something's still lit up there, though.

There's none of this last night.

- Oh! - You see it?

- Oh, my god.

There is something pulsating like crazy.

- Oh, you're looking at over here?

- I'm seeing, yeah.

- It's over here too, though.

- Yes, it's going nuts this time.

Oh, man, they're both going nuts.

- All right, so I was talking to you guys earlier about

the ritual circle, and how things started

heating up here when

we started talking to the group about it.

Well, we started getting lights out here over the ridge,

and they've been nonstop, Joel.

- Oh, man, here they come again.

- Here they come again.

- Oh, man, it's huge.

Wow.

- Right there, look there, what's this one here?

Straight ahead.

- What are you seeing out here?

Just describe to them what's going on.

- So, there's these red and white lights,

and they're pulsating in the non rhythmic pattern.

So, they're just moving in this one spot,

but they're not showing up in the same place at all.

And, sometimes, they're getting super bright.

And then, sometimes, they're not as bright.

But it's, they're not in the same slot,

so you know, it's not a stationary light

that's out there for

planes or anything like that.

This is completely different.

We've seen lights pulsating throughout the ridge too.

- On the ridge, yep.

- So it's just popped up right around the time

they found this like ritual circle.

- And that's where it started.

These lights on the ridge,

way over to where we're, from where we're looking now,

was shining up into the sky.

- Oh! - Whoa!

- Oh!

- Whoa, that just lit up. - There it is, that's it.

- That just lit up.

- That's what I've been saying.

- Yep, and now it's gone, right?

- Oh, here they come. - Oh, yep, yep.

All right, let's not yell too loud,

'cause I don't want them hearing us over there.

- Oh, my god. - That's gone.

But there's two more over there, onto the right,

and it's moving.

Yep, I see it now.

I see it now.

Yep, I know exactly what you're talking about, bro.

- Yeah, but there's a red one that jumps in with 'em.

- Well, I can't see color on this.

- Yeah, this is crazy. But both of those were white.

- But you see those two still right there, right?

You still see the two?

Okay, oh, and look like-

- That has nothing to do with that red one, though.

- That's blue, that's blue.

It's gone. - It's gone.

- Man, this thing is bright.

- What are we looking at?

What is that?

- I have no idea. - What the heck?

- Hang on a sec, I gotta get this one

that I can get on the camera here.

- No, they're everywhere.

You're not gonna have that many planes in the sky.

- Not that close together.

- Yo, these are moving.

What is that in the sky, guys?

- Look where the plane's at,

but look at the other one right there by it.

- Joel, you gotta come here and look at my camera, bro.

- Oh, shit.

- Let me see this pattern.

- Where is it?

- [Tony] After recording sightings in the sky

we could not explain, we started to wonder

if the stories of the activity in the area

being intelligent were true.

It really seemed to us, as we were there living it,

that the discovery of this altar

and our attention on it at the campfire

might have kicked off all this phenomena in the sky.

- All right, so me and the whole crew

are going down to the ritual site right now.

It is nighttime.

And we're gonna go check it out and see what happens.

Because

our natural reaction is to kind of just

stay next to the fire.

I think that's human.

And so, we're gonna go against our reactions

and our inclinations,

and go check out this ritual circle at nighttime.

(brush crunching)

- Oh, there's quarters there.

- Yep.

- Crystals.

- Multiple skulls.

Jawbone.

- What's this?

There's

some kind of seeds.

- That's another offering.

- Don't touch too much, though,

I don't want anything touched right now.

- Don't touch it.

- It still has skin on the skull.

And Bow would know more than I do, but

these are probably an offering.

The seeds on the side of it.

The orientation of it's important.

So, if we knew which way north, west, south,

so this is probably north.

- Keep your ears open. - Yeah.

- That's as much as it can do right now.

- Yeah, no, I heard movements too.

- You heard movements?

- Yeah, we heard cracking.

Yeah, that way.

- All right, lets go.

What?

- Almost like a rat, we don't see anything.

It was-

Where?

(ominous music)

- [Tony] After a wild first night,

we wanted to get Johnny's perspective

on the area in general,

and what could lie behind the strange things

that seemed to manifest there.

- Several years.

Yeah, it's just always been an amazing place

when it comes to those types of paranormal,

you know, activities.

But it's just been ongoing ever since I was a kid.

You know, we're told all these stories,

and warnings, and all sorts of things.

So, we live by those things a lot.

The outside is just kind of starting to figure out

and take notice of what we've been noticing,

probably, for thousands of years.

- We, yesterday we were checking out what,

we were just, for us, calling a boneyard.

And we were followed back to where we were staying

by a guy that saw us there.

- Oh, wow.

- And he even stopped at the end of the driveway

that we turned into and just stared at my vehicle

as I was pulling in.

And I didn't know if it was something that like

people noticed if you're not from around here

and they kind of just follow you to make sure

you're up to, not up to any, you know, problems.

- Yeah, yeah.

I'll tell you this, like, okay, so, you're in a bone yard.

I don't know exactly what you've seen or where it was,

but when we talk about one specific

activity, is the skin walker.

I call it a cult, basically.

It's a bad

spiritual, bad, evil is,

basically that's what we consider to be.

And it's a bad energy.

You know, there's a lot of that activity that goes around.

And those are actually physical humans

who go through that process.

In essence, they're like werewolves, okay?

However they became, there's all sorts of different ways.

And it's not specific to one tribe.

It's all over.

It's a ship shape, shape, excuse me, shape shifting, right?

So, they have specific, different,

you know, shape shifters follow different alters.

Different medicine.

It's dark medicine.

'Cause we have good medicine,

and there's bad medicine straight out, you know?

There's a lot of that that goes on in Native country.

A lot of the reservations you go to,

you'll hear about it.

You know, curses, different things that people

have learned how to,

learned how to utilize these entities

and these forces that are out there.

So, that's basically what they've done.

Hundreds, maybe thousand of years ago,

a group had, you know, discovered these entities.

And become subservient to those entities,

I guess that's what you would say.

So, it's a dark force.

It's a dark force.

- So, with, on that topic of the shape shifting, go ahead.

- Just keep your eye out.

- Okay.

With what you just said,

how prevalent would you say shape shifters are around here?

I mean, is this something that is like a hit and miss?

Every once in a while you see something?

There could be somebody in here presence that is like that?

Or is it something that a lot of people pursue?

- I don't know how to say it. It's just a, there's a few.

You know, there's a few.

- What are we watching for out here?

- That's so vast.

- I mean, aside from the fact that it's gorgeous.

- Wow.

That rock looks-

- That's the old Grandmother rock right there.

- Wow.

Yeah, it looks-

- See, there's a, this is where a lot of the activity goes.

This is one of our sacred spots.

This whole area is all sacred,

sacred hills.

- Really?

- You could walk over there if you want to.

You wanna walk over there?

- Yeah. - Yeah.

- Just take a look at some of these, let me turn around.

I've noticed this, and like I was telling you,

that with this skin walker, whatever you wanna call 'em,

bad guys,

there is a human entity that's pushing it, right?

There's a human.

Like even one of us

could join that, do those bad things.

So, they do have their people, their guards.

And I've noticed that.

In fact, a few, about say a few months ago,

yeah, about a couple months ago,

it was back in April, I was helping a friend.

She lived just north to me on White Rocks Road.

And she had, they had been seeing these creatures

around here and in the trees.

It was shouting at them.

Just like, they were just like, "What the heck is this?"

And, one night, you know, one even came into the house.

It scared her daughter.

So, they called me.

And, I said, "Well, let's pray."

So, we went and did our thing

to protect her house, her family.

And we made a barrier around her little ranch there.

And so, we left, in fact,

it's funny we're talking about this,

'cause we came here to pray, to leave some tobacco here.

'Cause of power in this place.

So we said, "Let's come down here

and we'll leave some tobacco for the old lady

and then we'll go back."

So, we brought the tobacco here,

which is an offering to Creator.

We went back.

And we're in two vehicles.

They went up the road to her house.

And I was about to turn off the highway

to go up the road to her house, her son was with me.

And I looked at the road, just a little ways down the road,

like from here to my pickup,

and I seen this guy in a hood.

You know, hood, just walking, kind of his head down.

And,

so I said, I asked, "Who is that?"

He said, he didn't say much.

"Ah, it's just somebody walking."

So, we went up, it was quite a ways,

maybe a little further than that.

And I just dropped him off, turned back around,

came back down the hill.

And he was a little closer.

And, just as he was getting to the boundary,

like where we prayed and we left our medicine there,

he just like, something pushed him back.

Something pushed him back.

Made him go.

And the weird thing was if, maybe if it was,

"Oh, I forgot something, I got turned around."

Why didn't he go back down the highway?

It pushed him back, and he went down in the ditch,

and he went into the trees.

- Wow.

- Yeah, so, but I told, and that's something I was told

to be careful.

I've always noticed those things and seen those things.

And, since then, the lady, too, she's my friend,

she's told me that they've seen it again.

But he's-

He won't come through.

He's trying to come through, but he can't come through.

- So, this is just in this area right here?

- The way I figured, because I tracked the different,

just over time and over the years,

I've heard different stories from different places.

And it all seems to follow,

it follows, actually, it follows the rivers.

It follows the rivers.

You'll see a lot of activity along this river.

North and south.

And then, right in where, Skinwalker Ranch happens to be

where the two rivers connect.

And then, you also have a lot of activity

that's coming down the Duchenne River

Strawberry and Duchenne River.

And

it seems to follow some sort of a track.

Or a, you know, some line of power.

In March, I was walking on that side

and they, see all these weird formations?

These little ridges in here?

- Yeah.

- I was just looking at 'em.

And a lot of them were, are really weird,

'cause they're supposed to be natural formations,

but they don't look like they were naturally placed.

Right angles, different things like that.

So, whatever it may be.

All of our prophecies kind of, more or less,

tell the same thing.

There's a big change coming.

You know, even coincides with a lot of Christian

and a lot of those teachings as well.

But, with most Natives, it's, we're there.

We've already, you know, started.

It's already going.

- You've already been acknowledging it?

- Yeah, yeah. - Yeah.

- For a long time, even when I was a kid,

you know, they talk about that.

- So, given

what you were talking about before with

the burial sites

and not disturbing ground,

we've heard a lot of people suggest that

all these oil rigs are disturbing the ground.

- Yes, yes they are.

- So, it's

fathomable that these oil rigs

are really drumming up a lot of activity.

- They are drumming up a lot of activity.

And I used to think about this,

and I actually proposed this to the tribe.

This is years ago, 20 some years ago,

when there wasn't a lot of activity.

Because, being from North Dakota, being a Lakota,

that's probably how we would attend to things.

So, I said, every time we drill a well,

we should have a, we should go and pray for that well

and we should offer,

'cause we don't know what we're drilling into.

We don't know what we're releasing, you know?

So, yeah, I, a hundred percent,

I a hundred percent believe that.

I believe it to be true

as you feel it.

And there's been more activity

since a lot of this oil,

you know, activity has come to the basin.

There's been more unidentified paranormal

activities going around.

And I definitely think there's a connection.

Absolutely.

- [Tony] Could the Mesa really contain ancient burial sites?

Or the remnants of an even older civilization?

Could the recent oil boom in some way

be upsetting the area and causing strange activity?

According to many locals, the answer is yes.

- The wolf that you saw and the sounds that you hear,

before or after the drilling?

- [Both] After.

- Yeah, it was definitely after.

- Now, that's interesting, don't you think?

- Yeah, I do. - Oh, think it is.

- With every situation, there is a multitude of

factors playing into what is happening.

And I think that one of the things that

is happening is that there's been a lot of

radiation fallout that has swept over this valley

from the testing sites in Nevada

due to the air currents.

So, I think there's a lot of

radioactive material in the soil.

That, when you dig, you disrupt this radioactive material.

And so, I think that's a caution on that,

just for our current history.

But, I think, if we're going back to ancient history,

it's a burial ground for the tribal people.

They understand that there's this energy highway,

and they want their ancestors

to travel this highway back to source.

So, they, you know, there's a burial ground

right next to the ranch.

The ranch was pretty much built,

that whole ridge is a burial ground.

So,

you know,

disrupting that is just

its own offense in and of itself, you know?

- [Ryan] Yeah, there's some really strange

things going on.

There's activity that has kind of like

rebooted around 2016,

right around when this oil rig went in.

Right around when new ownership purchased.

And

it's very interesting.

- There's a lot of people

that say that people used to bury

their dead in certain places, you know?

Indian burial grounds.

And so, they have tons of them in this whole basin.

Just everywhere.

Sprawled out in

any direction you go, you always see one.

And, you know, the more they do that,

the spirits of the dead,

or whatever you want to call them,

you know, it unleashes that into the world.

They have nowhere to go.

Their bodies,

Native Americans, as far as,

you know, they believe is,

when you die, you have to have your body connected,

or you have to have your body

to be connected to the spirit world.

Or to Native American heaven.

The hunting grounds.

You have to have your body here.

So, when a Native American cremates themselves,

they have no body to be connected to that world.

But a lot of people

did bury their dead with all their bodies,

everything, and their belongings.

But, when these things happen,

and it disturbs that,

their spirits are disconnected,

from my understanding, from that bridge, you know?

Because something keeps their body here,

and they're up there.

They, you know, a lot of them have to come down

and see what's happening.

- [Tony] Could this place really be

some kind of energy highway?

A lay line or path that draws the activity along it?

Could burial sites be what energizes

the shape shifter rituals and medicine?

Or is it something darker?

- What's there to fear about a shape shifter?

Have they been known to hurt people?

- Yes, yes.

So, as I was talking earlier, down there.

We're talking, this is a,

this was a form of warfare, you know?

So, that was the purpose of it.

So, they are, they do carry medicine from that realm, okay?

This is all energized or all

sponsored from this dark realm, from a specific point.

So, they do have the ability to hurt people,

to kill people, to take things from people.

It's all about control.

I don't know exactly.

I try not to know, but, you know, it's all around us.

So, you know, we hear a lot of things.

I don't know, you know?

It's just a bad, dark place for bad, dark people, you know?

- You came here as a youth pastor.

- Yeah.

- In doing that,

you have a set of beliefs

that were well-defined before this.

Has that been changed, altered,

strengthened in any way this week?

- We talk about

all of these things.

Like the evil entities and

the guarding of yourself from these, you know?

This is what Johnny's talking about.

You know, especially with guarding yourself with,

what he does, with sage, and prayer, and everything.

I mean, the Bible talks about, you know,

preparing yourself with the armor of Christ, you know?

- Amen, amen.

- And that's, in my mind, that's the comparison I see.

- Be aware of what's going on underneath you

no matter where you are, you know?

Because there might be some

energy, some power that's there from way back, you know?

Even our people don't know,

'cause we're newcomers to this area.

So, our elders would always tell us,

"Don't dig, don't do this, don't disturb things

from the old people."

There were people before us, so we didn't,

we didn't mess with that you know?

But do be aware of what's underneath you, you know?

I've lived in cities, in Phoenix and Chicago.

And people build, and especially in Phoenix,

there's been, oh, there's probably thousands of cases

building right over the Hohokum,

you know, ruins and different things.

And you have a lot of

poltergeist activity around that area.

But people don't know why.

So, I'll say, so know what's underneath you.

Know it's there, listen.

Don't disregard those stories, you know?

And I think that's what's important.

And that'll just enhance things, you know?

It'll enhance you, 'cause it gives you more history

and more insight

to what's going on.

'Cause it's not just the past ten years

since YouTube's been invented, you know?

We've been seeing this for a long time, yeah.

But things are changing,

I guess that's what I'll tell you.

All our people will say that.

Be prepared, things will get weird.

Things will change.

- You don't have to speak for the entire tribe, but

would a weight be lifted on a lot of people if they could

tell their side of the story?

- Yes.

- [Tony] That's exactly what we had hoped to do

by coming here.

We hoped we could give voice to the experiences of

those that had lived here the longest.

Sometimes the campfire stories you hear end up being true.

The next morning, anthropologist, James Keenan,

who had spent six years following the magnetic field shifts

beneath the Uintah Basin, arrived at Space Wolf

to take EMF readings.

And James's data and anthropological insight

into an even older civilization

added yet another layer of meaning

onto the happenings we had experienced in this area.

- In this are you have from a negative 14 micro Tesla

all the way up to an 89 micro Tesla with

the average for this area being a 46.

I believe it was 46 for right here.

So, that's just what

the magnetic

differences are for each location in the earth,

all the way down to its core.

A negative would

mean that there's some type of cavity.

Or void underground.

The higher means there's something highly magnetic.

To go up to an 89, you're talking about

something like a large magnet.

But, what's insane is, it's transient.

It's moving.

You can't have a negative 14 to an 89 in the same location.

Yet, this is one of four spots

that I've found.

And it's in a diagonal line.

They perfectly match up at 8.34 degrees.

And, what's kind of crazy is that,

8.34 degree heading goes right up to Blind Frog Ranch too.

So, and then, there's this whole underground

cavern system too that we've been

under in certain parts

with a lot of flowing water.

So, we're wondering if maybe that's how,

if it's highly, you know, if there's

saline, there's positive ions, high magnesium.

My whole hypothesis is that

there's some type of magnetic energy underground

that's feeding to a, it's a relay.

So, you have point A underground.

There's a point B, whatever that may be.

And then, it's transmitting out into space.

And, whatever it is, there's

several Navajo symbols.

And there's actually a Navajo book that

the front cover has the same type of theory.

And it's all tied into the Yenaldooshi,

which is a skin walker.

That's what the Dine call them.

And, also, with

the symbols of the petroglyphs and the pictographs.

And then, also, obviously, UFO.

Yeah, the giants is a whole other topic.

But, you'll see that in the petroglyphs at Dry Fort Canyon.

I mean, seven feet plus in height.

Six digits on the fingers.

Massively large feet.

So, they say the Sitekawe

were the redheaded cannibal giants for this area.

I don't believe they were cannibal,

but they were head hunters.

And you can see that in

the anthropomorphic figures are actually,

have taken heads, trophy heads.

So, that may be where that came from.

- That's interesting.

I've heard of the redheaded giants before.

And so, now that we know,

we can visit somewhere where maybe they were depicted,

I think it would be worth our time before we head back home.

- Oh, absolutely.

Even the three kings, up at the top,

you won't be able to get close.

But, like, with the camera, you'll be able to zoom in.

Consider the height factor of what you're looking at

compared to what's around it.

And there's one anthropomorphic figure over to the right.

You'll see the patina is a lot older than the rest of it.

It's truly an interesting

rock art piece to look at,

because that's just telling us that

there was something about that site that was so important

that it continued to be worked over and added to.

And in periods after.

- [Tony] Had there really been giants here?

How long has this high strangeness been going on?

We did, in fact, find a number of petroglyphs

left by ancient and little understood

Fremont cliff dwellers near the basin.

Ancient depictions of giants, shape shifters,

and even what some would call portals.

With new layers of context on the basin,

we gathered around coffee to prepare for

our last night on the property.

- Going into tonight, I feel like

my head space is just more understanding,

compared to what it has been the past couple of days.

Spending time with Johnny and Bow,

and understanding their culture,

I understand a little bit more as to

what kind of makes up this area

and the essence of what's been going on.

And we'll just, we'll see what happens.

We'll see what happens tonight with that.

But, I definitely feel like

I'm coming from a more educated understanding.

And, as a result of that,

I might go through an experience tonight that

I might view differently than I would've two days ago.

For sure.

- Yeah, I think I kind of have like a

patient mindset tonight.

I was, we came in kind of like guns-a-blazing.

We were excited to get going.

And, now that we've had that experience

with talking with both Bow and Johnny,

and others around the area,

kind of helps to settle that, you know,

that excitement down, but also be knowing that we're

in the presence of a lot of other things going on.

So, I'm pretty patient.

- Yeah, so, for me, it's two things.

You know, one was last night around the fireplace

when Johnny sat there and told us that he felt like that

we've come in with reverence and respect.

And he feels like the people that do that

tend to see what they have come to see.

Also, I think, just from a perspective,

who we are as a team,

I think that's what we bring to the table.

We don't come in here just trying to

stir things up just for the sake of it.

I think we want to go about it the right way.

We want to do it in a respectful way and also a safe way.

But, I feel real good about tonight.

I've been getting that feeling since I woke up this morning.

And I know that place is just a hot bed ready to explode.

- [Tony] Hearing the experiences of

the people that lived here,

and having our own strange encounters earlier in the week,

we were all excited for what our final night

at Space Wolf would hold.

Unfortunately, the night took a turn none of us expected.

- So, back there, when Jack was saying

he saw that blue light blinking,

which is obviously some sort of tower,

or something like that.

As we're pulling past, I noticed there was a dirt road

next to us, and headlights lit up.

And I said, "Well, that's kind of odd."

They're on a dirt road.

There's no, nothing back that way.

And,

I started turning around and watching,

and they slowly pulled out.

They waited, though, for us to get way down,

and then they pulled out.

And they, essentially, followed us.

And that's why I asked Tony to stop, because

it just seemed odd.

I wanted to see what they did.

Well, they did come by there,

but they did slow up by the

entrance to Space Wolf.

But they kept going, obviously, 'cause they saw us stopped.

We didn't go all the way back to the campsite.

So, currently, we are trying to follow them.

- Joseph just called me.

So one of you guys could maybe call him.

- Yeah, somebody call Joseph.

- [Tony] A truck hidden in the high desert

had evidently been waiting for us to pass.

When we pulled into the driveway at Space Wolf,

the following car slowed to a stop at the gate.

When they saw Joel get out of

the vehicle and acknowledge them, they sped off.

In the heat of the moment, we decided to follow.

- Look like they sped up.

- I'm telling you, man, it's weird.

There's no, it was like that classic-

They were in the dark the whole time

until we came driving by, and then the lights lit up.

- Yeah.

Well, that's odd, how far out there he got.

- Oh, I know, he sped up big time.

- [Tony] I have a feeling this guy's gonna disappear on us.

- [Ward] Keep an eye out left and right too,

if he pulled off there.

- Yeah, look left, look left, look left.

- There are protectors of that

sensitive stuff.

- I mean, you could try follow them into town but-

- [Tony] Careening down back roads at speeds of 90 or more,

the car that had been following got away from us.

During this chase, however,

we got a call from Joseph back at our base camp.

He had stayed behind that evening, and so had seen that,

after we pulled out to chase the follow car,

yet another vehicle had pulled into Space Wolf driveway.

And, presumably, would've continued all the way down

to our campsite if Joseph hadn't flashed

a strobing tactical flashlight at them.

- Get ready to text him that we're at the gate.

- You got it, Christian?

- Yeah. - Okay.

- I've never seen a vehicle

go around corners that fast, though.

That was that, like it's a pickup truck.

- Yeah, he was pushing it.

- He made distance on us.

- Yeah, I should've went harder.

- It's kind of hard to do that with

as much stuff as what we had.

- Yeah, we got more weight.

- Well, we'll find out how far this car came down.

Did it just come in here?

- Look at that, though,

you can still see the dust in the air.

- I mean, that was what I,

that's what looked, thought when I saw that car pull out

with, it's the lights went, all you saw was lights.

- When did you turn the lights on?

Like, right before he turned in?

- So, as it turned in, they went off.

Before it made, completed its turn, rolled in.

And I thought it was Chester's,

a friend of Chester's or something, you know?

And then, he just kept coming, coming, coming.

And I was like-

I was like, "Oh, no, no, no, no."

- Did it stop before you did that or after?

- No, it stopped when I did this.

- So, like that stopped it?

- And then, it backed up, and went-

- Did it back up in a hurry, would you say?

- No.

No, because I think

it figured how far I was away.

I'm thinking,

what if those guys, whoever that was, that was a decoy.

- Saw, yeah saw us leave.

- To pull you guys away, and then somebody comes in here.

Well, this car was like, I mean,

I would just call it a Camry.

That kind of car.

You know, like a four-door.

- Could you tell color, probably not, huh?

- No, I couldn't, it was too dark.

See that light?

That's a motion sensor.

That's the light that first alerted me to it

just as it like-

So, it's probably like 20, 30 or, 60 seconds.

There you go. - There it goes.

- 30 seconds.

- Which means it kicked on after we came in.

- [Tony] Being in a threatening situation

put a massive damper on the final night.

We became less worried about the unexplainable,

and more about our own physical security.

Obviously, someone had wanted into our camp.

But, for what purpose we don't know.

Could there have been something we weren't supposed to know?

Was it intimidation?

Or just letting us know we were being watched?

- We did not bring the K2.

Just thought of it now.

- Do you think that there's ancient curses on this land?

These lands and stuff that might

attract the activity that has been happening here?

I mean, we're talking about

upright walking dogs, giant wolves.

We're talking about

UFOs, abductions, rake looking type creatures.

There's so much going on here, in this area.

Do you think that there could have been an ancient curse

put on this land that has been almost

like a magnet for all this stuff?

- [Ryan] I didn't really know.

I thought up until the point he was actually,

they, I don't know if it was a he or she,

were in the vehicle.

And I don't even know exactly what it was,

because I never got a full look at it.

But it seemed

like an interesting, possibly, interdimensional type

now that I look back.

But it was a very, just,

for all intents and purposes, what I saw was an

older Native American in the middle of nowhere.

- Natives were very resistant to telling anything,

'cause we didn't want to be diagnosed as crazy.

That's true, so we kind of kept quiet

and just kept it among ourselves.

You know, we didn't really

talk until recently.

But then, at the same time, there's,

no one really asked us either, so, you know?

- [Tony] But could you define for the audience

what a skin walker is?

I mean, there's a lot of people that define it differently.

I've heard, at least.

But what would you say a skin walker is?

- [Ryan] It's a mixture of things.

And it really depends on what culture is defining it.

Whether that be

the Native Americans defining it as a

skin walker.

Or a

dark arts practicing, witchery way following

dark shaman appear to be something they are not.

Magic perfectly explained, really.

- [Tony] In the paranormal community,

few places elicit as strong an association

with the truly unexplained as this cut of high desert.

Could it be that this place is set apart in some way,

sacred or desecrated?

Why are experiences here so common, so vivid?

Out at the margins of reality,

questions abound while answers are rare.

It's poetry, not a technical manual.

What I do know is that, if you listen to the sounds

that have hung over this place the longest,

the voices of those with the longest memories,

you can start to catch the rhythm.

(Native chanting)

(Native chanting)