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- Wrestling is not
a love story.
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It's much more.
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It's hope.
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An excuse to be a kid again.
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And nothing matters except
the moment we are in.
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A great man once said that.
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That man is my brother,
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Windham Rotunda.
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But you know him
as Bray Wyatt.
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Tell me this wasn't
meant to be.
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He knew where he was going
from the beginning.
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- There's something going on.
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- Is that--you know who it is.
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It's Bray Wyatt!
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- Bray Wyatt was chaos.
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The ultimate villain.
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- I am Bray Wyatt,
the new face of fear.
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- He had the charisma that
so many guys don't have.
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Can you feel that?
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- That "it" quality.
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- You hold 100,000 people
in the palm of your hand.
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- You've got it all.
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- When it comes to creativity,
Windham had no peers.
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- Can I see
what that looks like?
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- He was not scared
to push the limits.
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- Yowie-wowie!
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- He was a genius.
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- Dreaming of all these ideas,
it's such a cool feeling.
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- He changed a whole industry.
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- He put his heart and soul
out on his sleeve.
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It's one of the geniuses
of him, but it's also
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one of the things that was
difficult to work with him on.
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- When you hit creative
roadblocks, you reform.
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And that's what he did.
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- It's time to rewrite
my own story.
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The ridiculously hard times
are what strengthened me.
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When I was weak, when I was
vulnerable, when I was down,
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you were there.
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This is the best
I've ever felt.
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- He was bigger than life,
and he was loved by millions.
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- He had so much more
that he wanted to do.
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- I want to leave a legacy
behind for everyone
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that ever loved me.
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- * He's got the whole world
in his hands *
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- Creativity.
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It comes from many places
and takes many shapes.
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The place is
Western Pennsylvania.
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The shape is a character
forever known as Bray Wyatt.
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- Jason.
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- What's going on, buddy?
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My name is Jason Baker.
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I'm a special makeup effects
artist and film director.
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- Wild looking at all this.
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- I know.
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I had the honor of creating
most of Windham's costumes
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and all of his insane ideas.
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- You look and see
all the things he's done
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and accomplished.
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- I wish he was here
to share it with us.
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- Now it's up to us
to give him something
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he deserves that will
let him live on forever.
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We owe him something big.
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- It's going to be wild.
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- Something to truly
honor his legacy.
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- I grew up in a little town
called Brooksville, Florida.
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Small little town.
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You know, everybody knows
your business.
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Everybody knows who you are.
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Everybody knew who my family
was growing up, obviously.
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- Come on and let's fight.
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- Blackjack Mulligan
is my grandfather.
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- Blackjack Mulligan.
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What a monster.
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- My uncles are Barry
and Kendall Windham.
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- Barry Windham.
Kendall Windham.
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Two second-generation
wrestlers.
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- And my father is
Mike Rotunda.
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- Outstanding athlete
out of Syracuse.
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A tremendous wrestler.
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- I was wrestling
down in Florida,
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and Dusty Rhodes was
the booker.
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And he put Barry and I
as a tag team together.
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- Barry Windham
joining Mike Rotunda.
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- His sister Stephanie
came down to visit.
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- My sister had come
to stay with me.
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Mike, of course, being my
best friend, was always over.
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You know, I noticed that
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they were kind of
eyeballing each other.
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- I wasn't supposed to really
be around the wrestlers.
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Said I wasn't interested.
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And then I married him
six months later.
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And we've been married
40 years.
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- Over the next few years,
the couple
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traveled the world together
as Mike became a champion.
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- Over the hip.
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Shoulders down.
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Yes, indeed!
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We have new
tag team champions,
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Barry Windham, Mike Rotunda.
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- And competed in
the first-ever WrestleMania
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in New York City.
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- Rotunda now gets
the Sheik up.
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Well-executed suplex.
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- Eventually,
they settled in Brooksville.
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And on May 23, 1987,
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Windham Lawrence Rotunda
was born.
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- I was wrestling in
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Championship Wrestling
of Florida,
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and I wrestled Ric Flair
that night.
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So I get home,
nobody's at the house.
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My mother-in-law and Steph
were at the hospital.
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They ended up doing
an emergency C-section
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because Windham was a big kid.
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- He was almost 10 pounds.
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Windham was named
from the beginning
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'cause it's my maiden name.
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He was like
the little Gerber baby.
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Bright, blue eyes and smiley
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and curly little blonde
ringlets of hair.
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He was beautiful.
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When he was a little bitty,
like, two and three,
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he would stand
in front of the TV,
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and he knew "Ghostbusters,"
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"Beetlejuice" line-for-line.
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- He would watch these movies,
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and he would voice
pretty much the whole movie
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at that young age.
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- I remember when he read
all the Goosebumps books.
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He was addicted to 'em.
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But he was just such
an imaginative,
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imaginative character,
and he was always
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the center of attention
wherever he went.
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- Windham wouldn't be
an only child for long.
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When he was three years old,
he got a brother, Taylor.
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- Windham was always
somebody I looked up to.
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Most little brothers do
look up to a bigger brother.
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But Windham...
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I wanted to be just like him.
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- And three years later,
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he got a little sister too:
Mika.
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- Brothers are awesome,
and I had the two best.
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I have felt that way
my whole life.
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Windham and Taylor
were my protectors
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and they were my friends
and my confidants.
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- We were all really,
really close.
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But in our younger years,
me and Windham
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played practical jokes.
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We convinced her at one point
that there was
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an invisible man
living in her closet.
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Anytime she was about
to tell on us, we'd be like,
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do you want us to call on--hmm?
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- Those kids played hard
with each other.
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I remember them,
like, roughhousing
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in our living room.
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We were really close
to Mike and Stephanie
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and Windham and Taylor
growing up.
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Mike was one of my dad's
best friends.
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Those kids, they were vibrant.
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They, all three, have
so much personality.
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- As the Rotunda children
grew up, their father
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developed a new identity
in the ring.
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- My dad was IRS,
Irwin R. Schyster.
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- I told you tax cheats before,
everyone pays their taxes!
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No one will rest in peace
until all your taxes are paid.
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- Even I shared the ring
with IRS.
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- Look at this!
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Yeah!
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- I remember seeing
young Bray Wyatt
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just hanging out back
watching his dad,
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just mesmerized, you know,
watching his dad stretch
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and work out in the ring.
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You know, you could tell
he wanted to be in the ring.
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- I remember
one time in particular,
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I saw my dad was in
a tag match with Ted DiBiase
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against The Nasty Boys.
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- Oh, God. Look at this.
Uh-oh.
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- Will it be the pit stop?
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- I wanna see this.
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- They put my dad
in the corner,
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and they stuck their armpits
in his face.
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And I remember being backstage
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and my mom having
to hold me back
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because I was a little
7-year-old kid
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and I was about to run
in this ring.
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That's where it started.
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I knew that I had
to get in there.
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I wanted to be
just like my dad.
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I wanted to be in the WWE.
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- By the early 2000s,
Windham used his size
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to excel in
high school sports.
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- Growing up, especially
if you're heavyset like I was
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when I was a kid,
you had to learn
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how to be tough
at a real young age.
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As soon as I was old enough,
any contact sport
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I could get my hands on,
I was into it.
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- He was a good
football player.
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Played both ways.
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Made all-star teams.
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- He really, really was
an unbelievable athlete.
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He ran a 4.8 40.
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And the strength he had
and the agility for the size
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that he had, just unbelievable.
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- Windham was an anomaly--
everything, but especially
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amateur wrestling
and high school.
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By the time it was time
for his match,
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the gym would quiet down.
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And when he would wrestle,
the whole gymnasium
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would just stop to watch
what he was doing.
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He was a draw at 17.
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- Windham won the heavyweight
wrestling state title
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and was all-state in football.
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In 2005, he graduated
and chose to continue
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playing football
3,000 miles away.
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- I went and played
junior college football
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at College of the Sequoias
in Visalia, California.
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- Windham excelled and was
named an All-American
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offensive lineman.
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Two years later,
he transferred to Division I
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Troy University in Alabama.
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- I think that's where
I really learned to be tough.
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You know, it pushed me
to the edge.
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To play in Division I
football ain't no joke.
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- Being a college athlete
was incredibly challenging.
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It's a full-time job.
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When you're coming up
in a family
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of professional athletes
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and you see this devotion,
you don't know anything
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other than to give
everything you've got.
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He dreamt of playing
for the Oakland Raiders.
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And like, that's where
he wanted to be,
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and that's what
he wanted to do.
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- While Windham worked
towards a future in the NFL,
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he often made the 6.5-hour
drive home to see his family
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in Brooksville.
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- I was 15, and I was
very self-conscious
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because I was really
overweight.
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And the only thing that
made it better was Windham.
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And I called him
and I told him,
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I'm the only freshman
on homecoming court.
256
00:12:30,918 --> 00:12:33,755
And I said, I know you're in
the middle of football season.
257
00:12:33,796 --> 00:12:35,048
It would mean everything
if you could just
258
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walk me down the field.
259
00:12:37,341 --> 00:12:39,093
He showed up with
a bouquet of flowers.
260
00:12:39,135 --> 00:12:40,636
And I was so scared.
261
00:12:40,678 --> 00:12:42,972
But when your big brother,
who's your hero,
262
00:12:43,014 --> 00:12:45,058
who's your favorite icon,
shows up
263
00:12:45,099 --> 00:12:48,436
just to walk you
down the field, it vanishes.
264
00:12:48,478 --> 00:12:50,438
- When I was a senior
in high school,
265
00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:52,815
I was going to
the state championships.
266
00:12:52,857 --> 00:12:54,817
And my brother was
a state champion.
267
00:12:54,859 --> 00:12:57,028
And I wanted to be
just like him.
268
00:12:57,070 --> 00:12:58,529
He wanted to come and see me.
269
00:12:58,571 --> 00:13:01,282
But he said, I'm only
going to come and see you
270
00:13:01,324 --> 00:13:04,077
in the finals because I know
you're going to make it
271
00:13:04,118 --> 00:13:06,162
to the finals and I know
you're going to win.
272
00:13:06,204 --> 00:13:08,122
And that's all I need to see.
273
00:13:08,164 --> 00:13:11,417
So long story short,
I went into the tournament
274
00:13:11,459 --> 00:13:14,962
and I suffered an injury
and I was unable to compete.
275
00:13:15,004 --> 00:13:16,714
And the only thing
running through my head
276
00:13:16,756 --> 00:13:18,925
was I let my brother down.
277
00:13:18,966 --> 00:13:20,468
* *
278
00:13:20,510 --> 00:13:22,845
Finally got home,
and Windham was already
279
00:13:22,887 --> 00:13:24,180
waiting in the driveway
280
00:13:24,222 --> 00:13:25,932
sitting on the back
of his tailgate.
281
00:13:25,973 --> 00:13:27,475
And before I even
made it to him,
282
00:13:27,517 --> 00:13:32,522
he made it to me
with a big hug.
283
00:13:32,563 --> 00:13:34,190
And...
284
00:13:36,901 --> 00:13:39,112
He whispered into my ear...
285
00:13:43,324 --> 00:13:46,327
"None of that shit matters."
286
00:13:46,369 --> 00:13:48,746
None of that shit matters.
287
00:13:48,788 --> 00:13:50,832
That's really who Windham was.
288
00:13:50,873 --> 00:13:54,252
It was the love
of his family and making sure
289
00:13:54,293 --> 00:13:59,006
I felt OK after
I felt like I let him down.
290
00:13:59,048 --> 00:14:02,218
That's what mattered to him.
291
00:14:02,260 --> 00:14:05,430
- By 2008,
Windham was relegated
292
00:14:05,471 --> 00:14:08,391
to a backup role on the Troy
University football team,
293
00:14:08,433 --> 00:14:12,812
and his playing time
was limited.
294
00:14:12,854 --> 00:14:15,982
- That was kind of a hard time
for him because, of course,
295
00:14:16,023 --> 00:14:18,234
his aspirations
were pro football.
296
00:14:18,276 --> 00:14:23,406
And it dawned on him that
that wasn't going to happen.
297
00:14:23,448 --> 00:14:26,492
- That same year,
his 18-year-old brother Taylor
298
00:14:26,534 --> 00:14:31,247
signed with WWE and joined
their developmental system.
299
00:14:31,289 --> 00:14:32,707
- I was having my first match,
300
00:14:32,749 --> 00:14:35,585
and Windham drove down
from Troy.
301
00:14:35,626 --> 00:14:38,755
I got done and went
and met him after.
302
00:14:38,796 --> 00:14:41,716
And he's like, "I'm not
going back to school.
303
00:14:41,758 --> 00:14:44,135
I want to do this with you."
304
00:14:44,177 --> 00:14:47,638
- That decision would change
the course of Windham's life.
305
00:14:55,104 --> 00:14:57,732
* *
306
00:15:00,943 --> 00:15:03,154
- In 2008, Windham walked away
307
00:15:03,196 --> 00:15:04,989
from the Troy University's
football team
308
00:15:05,031 --> 00:15:06,616
and joined his brother Taylor
309
00:15:06,657 --> 00:15:09,952
in WWE's developmental
system, FCW.
310
00:15:09,994 --> 00:15:12,288
all: FCW! FCW!
- Slow down, folks.
311
00:15:12,330 --> 00:15:14,540
- Windham came
from college football.
312
00:15:14,582 --> 00:15:17,668
And then kind of overnight,
was just with FCW.
313
00:15:17,710 --> 00:15:20,713
And yeah, everything
was new and everything
314
00:15:20,755 --> 00:15:22,757
was scary and exciting.
315
00:15:22,799 --> 00:15:24,509
But I think what
gave him comfort
316
00:15:24,550 --> 00:15:26,719
was that his brother was there.
317
00:15:26,761 --> 00:15:29,639
- He moved down to Tampa,
and we got a house together.
318
00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,058
And we loved it.
319
00:15:32,100 --> 00:15:35,061
It was one of my favorite
times of my life.
320
00:15:35,103 --> 00:15:37,146
We did everything together.
321
00:15:37,188 --> 00:15:38,314
We went to work together.
322
00:15:38,356 --> 00:15:39,690
We talked about work.
323
00:15:39,732 --> 00:15:42,110
And we ended up starting
to tag together.
324
00:15:42,151 --> 00:15:43,986
And we were
Bo and Duke Rotundo.
325
00:15:44,028 --> 00:15:47,240
And that was our life.
326
00:15:47,281 --> 00:15:48,783
- I was 16.
327
00:15:48,825 --> 00:15:50,201
I got my driver's license.
328
00:15:50,243 --> 00:15:51,869
And the first place
I ever drove
329
00:15:51,911 --> 00:15:55,998
was to the Brooksville armory
to watch my brothers.
330
00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,918
- From Brooksville, Florida,
331
00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:03,339
Bo and Duke Rotundo!
332
00:16:05,550 --> 00:16:07,635
- Proud papa. Proud mama.
333
00:16:07,677 --> 00:16:10,221
My parents were both
really proud of the boys.
334
00:16:10,263 --> 00:16:12,223
- They didn't get any
roads paved for them
335
00:16:12,265 --> 00:16:13,641
or silver spoon handed to them.
336
00:16:13,683 --> 00:16:16,394
They had to come in
like everybody else.
337
00:16:16,436 --> 00:16:18,396
- What an opportunity here
to see two
338
00:16:18,438 --> 00:16:20,523
homegrown guys, man,
right here.
339
00:16:20,565 --> 00:16:22,191
Duke and Bo, man,
this is going to be
340
00:16:22,233 --> 00:16:23,693
a really special outing
for them.
341
00:16:23,735 --> 00:16:25,737
Big ol' Duke just
a roughhouse.
342
00:16:25,778 --> 00:16:29,198
He's a little green still,
but he's got the get-go will.
343
00:16:31,451 --> 00:16:33,369
- This is a really,
really tough business.
344
00:16:33,411 --> 00:16:35,246
But to have someone
345
00:16:35,288 --> 00:16:37,707
that you can trust
with absolutely anything
346
00:16:37,749 --> 00:16:40,668
is unheard of in this business,
and I had that.
347
00:16:40,710 --> 00:16:43,171
You are looking at
the most explosive tag team
348
00:16:43,212 --> 00:16:47,300
in FCW, the Rotundo Brothers.
349
00:16:47,341 --> 00:16:50,303
- And it's high time that
we bring those titles back
350
00:16:50,344 --> 00:16:54,891
to their new rightful home,
Brooksville, Florida.
351
00:16:54,932 --> 00:16:58,811
- We have new
tag team champions,
352
00:16:58,853 --> 00:17:01,898
the Rotundos, Bo and Duke.
353
00:17:01,939 --> 00:17:04,233
- Right away,
the Rotundo Brothers
354
00:17:04,275 --> 00:17:07,361
impressed a WWE legend.
355
00:17:07,403 --> 00:17:09,822
- I had offered my gym
Hard Nocks South
356
00:17:09,864 --> 00:17:13,159
as the first developmental
strength territory.
357
00:17:13,201 --> 00:17:15,286
So I used to see Windham
all the time.
358
00:17:16,162 --> 00:17:17,872
We separated them into groups
359
00:17:17,914 --> 00:17:19,415
based on their
athletic ability,
360
00:17:19,457 --> 00:17:21,334
and Windham was in
the top group.
361
00:17:21,375 --> 00:17:23,169
But he was the only guy
that would have
362
00:17:23,211 --> 00:17:25,838
everyone laughing all the time.
363
00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:30,259
He would come up with sketches
in the gym, bring costumes.
364
00:17:30,301 --> 00:17:32,387
- It puts the lotion
on its skin,
365
00:17:32,428 --> 00:17:34,138
or else it gets the hose again.
366
00:17:34,180 --> 00:17:35,807
- Do you want to get
dipped in water?
367
00:17:35,848 --> 00:17:37,016
- Yeah.
368
00:17:37,058 --> 00:17:38,142
- You can't swim
with Saran wrap on.
369
00:17:38,184 --> 00:17:40,395
- Bad boys don't get headbands.
370
00:17:40,436 --> 00:17:42,146
- It's one of those things
you see on and be like,
371
00:17:42,188 --> 00:17:43,898
he's on to something.
372
00:17:43,940 --> 00:17:45,441
- Look into these eyes, boy.
373
00:17:45,483 --> 00:17:48,236
A demon lives
behind these eyes.
374
00:17:48,277 --> 00:17:51,239
A demon that you created.
375
00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,367
- I mean, you could go back
and find old tapes of Windham
376
00:17:54,409 --> 00:17:55,660
at promo class.
377
00:17:55,701 --> 00:17:57,328
You could take any one
of those characters
378
00:17:57,370 --> 00:17:59,789
and put them right on TV.
379
00:17:59,831 --> 00:18:02,500
- Windham's magnetic
personality and work ethic
380
00:18:02,542 --> 00:18:04,752
didn't go unnoticed.
381
00:18:04,794 --> 00:18:07,797
Within a year,
the 23-year-old would be
382
00:18:07,839 --> 00:18:11,217
featured on a new show
called "NXT."
383
00:18:12,593 --> 00:18:15,054
- "NXT" was a game show
where, essentially,
384
00:18:15,096 --> 00:18:17,557
you had up-and-coming
wrestlers who would compete
385
00:18:17,598 --> 00:18:19,642
to be the next breakout star.
386
00:18:19,684 --> 00:18:21,728
And then we had a group
of what were termed to be
387
00:18:21,769 --> 00:18:24,689
pros who were acting
as judges.
388
00:18:24,731 --> 00:18:28,025
- And Windham got a new name.
389
00:18:28,067 --> 00:18:30,653
- I don't believe Cody Rhodes
is that enthused
390
00:18:30,695 --> 00:18:34,323
about his rookie Husky Harris.
391
00:18:34,365 --> 00:18:36,200
- Well, he was called
Husky Harris.
392
00:18:36,242 --> 00:18:38,286
- I thought it was a little--
you know,
393
00:18:38,327 --> 00:18:41,456
it wasn't complimentary
by any means.
394
00:18:41,497 --> 00:18:43,791
- I know Windham really
didn't like the name.
395
00:18:43,833 --> 00:18:45,793
He felt it was poking fun
at his physique
396
00:18:45,835 --> 00:18:46,586
more than anything.
397
00:18:46,627 --> 00:18:47,920
- What can you say about
398
00:18:47,962 --> 00:18:49,922
Husky Harris
that you can't see?
399
00:18:49,964 --> 00:18:51,090
- He's husky.
400
00:18:51,132 --> 00:18:52,467
- Come on, baby!
401
00:18:52,508 --> 00:18:54,802
- Husky Harris?
402
00:18:54,844 --> 00:18:56,262
I don't know, man.
403
00:18:56,304 --> 00:18:57,680
I can only imagine
how frustrated
404
00:18:57,722 --> 00:18:58,973
he must have been with that.
405
00:18:59,015 --> 00:19:01,225
I don't know if,
in my most creative hour,
406
00:19:01,267 --> 00:19:02,477
could I have made this work.
407
00:19:02,518 --> 00:19:04,395
- She wants me. Hmm.
408
00:19:07,732 --> 00:19:08,858
- Oh, God.
409
00:19:08,900 --> 00:19:10,234
- Terrible.
410
00:19:10,276 --> 00:19:12,904
When I look back
at the Husky Harris,
411
00:19:12,945 --> 00:19:15,907
I just see that sad
little boy.
412
00:19:15,948 --> 00:19:18,076
It was just a terrible,
terrible time.
413
00:19:18,117 --> 00:19:20,995
And it was a figment of
someone else's imagination
414
00:19:21,037 --> 00:19:23,623
that they tried
to push on a person.
415
00:19:23,664 --> 00:19:26,542
- I feel like he knew in
his heart that wasn't what
416
00:19:26,584 --> 00:19:28,586
his destiny was supposed to be.
417
00:19:28,628 --> 00:19:31,089
That Husky Harris character,
it allowed him to want more.
418
00:19:31,130 --> 00:19:33,174
It drove him to want more.
419
00:19:34,092 --> 00:19:36,427
- While Windham wanted
more professionally,
420
00:19:36,469 --> 00:19:39,639
personally, he was thriving.
421
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,933
Windham had been dating
his girlfriend Samantha
422
00:19:41,974 --> 00:19:44,060
for three years.
423
00:19:44,102 --> 00:19:47,146
And on November 14, 2010,
424
00:19:47,188 --> 00:19:50,983
they welcomed
their first daughter, Cadyn.
425
00:19:52,276 --> 00:19:54,362
- He was on the European Tour.
426
00:19:54,404 --> 00:19:56,656
And it started getting
closer and closer.
427
00:19:56,697 --> 00:19:59,450
And I called him and said, I'm
going to go to the hospital.
428
00:19:59,492 --> 00:20:01,994
I'm going.
He's like, oh, God.
429
00:20:02,036 --> 00:20:04,914
It was hours that he was
just on the phone with me.
430
00:20:04,956 --> 00:20:07,750
Sorry.
431
00:20:07,792 --> 00:20:10,753
And she was born.
432
00:20:10,795 --> 00:20:13,297
And he heard the whole thing.
433
00:20:13,339 --> 00:20:16,676
I refused to let anybody
see her until he saw her.
434
00:20:16,718 --> 00:20:18,636
And she was about two,
three days old.
435
00:20:18,678 --> 00:20:20,263
And he was like, oh, my God.
436
00:20:20,304 --> 00:20:21,889
He didn't know how to hold her.
437
00:20:21,931 --> 00:20:22,932
I said, like a football.
438
00:20:22,974 --> 00:20:24,809
You're good.
439
00:20:24,851 --> 00:20:28,229
- She was a happy-go-lucky
little girl and beautiful.
440
00:20:28,271 --> 00:20:31,733
And she looked just like him.
441
00:20:31,774 --> 00:20:33,735
- For sure,
it changed his life.
442
00:20:33,776 --> 00:20:36,779
It gave him direction
and a purpose
443
00:20:36,821 --> 00:20:38,865
because it wasn't just
about him anymore.
444
00:20:38,906 --> 00:20:41,284
It was about
his beautiful child.
445
00:20:43,161 --> 00:20:46,914
- At that time, Paul Levesque,
also known as Triple H,
446
00:20:46,956 --> 00:20:50,668
was head of creative
for WWE Developmental.
447
00:20:50,710 --> 00:20:53,880
- Windham was in the company
as Husky Harris.
448
00:20:53,921 --> 00:20:55,465
Didn't feel like
it was working.
449
00:20:55,506 --> 00:20:57,717
Didn't feel like
it was going to work.
450
00:20:57,759 --> 00:20:59,635
I think we have him miscast.
451
00:20:59,677 --> 00:21:02,055
He's really talented.
452
00:21:02,096 --> 00:21:05,892
Let me take him,
put him back down in Florida,
453
00:21:05,933 --> 00:21:10,438
and let me see
what I can get out of him.
454
00:21:13,149 --> 00:21:16,486
- He didn't want to be this
cookie-cutter--little tights.
455
00:21:16,527 --> 00:21:18,863
Windham from day one was
like, no way, man.
456
00:21:18,905 --> 00:21:21,491
That's not my stuff.
I'm different.
457
00:21:21,532 --> 00:21:24,368
And he was sent back to FCW.
458
00:21:24,410 --> 00:21:28,748
He got in the car smiling,
laughing like, listen, listen.
459
00:21:30,917 --> 00:21:34,087
The entire 3 1/2-hour ride,
he was just showing me videos
460
00:21:34,128 --> 00:21:37,048
and telling me ideas
and all this stuff.
461
00:21:37,090 --> 00:21:40,093
It was crazy
and all over the place.
462
00:21:40,134 --> 00:21:42,762
And I'm like, what are you
even talking about, man?
463
00:21:42,804 --> 00:21:44,847
And he was telling me
about Waylon Mercy
464
00:21:44,889 --> 00:21:46,682
and we were watching
videos of that.
465
00:21:46,724 --> 00:21:49,811
- Waylon Mercy,
he's a peaceful man.
466
00:21:49,852 --> 00:21:52,980
He likes his peaceful
surroundings.
467
00:21:53,022 --> 00:21:55,608
- Those are the eeriest,
strangest-looking eyes
468
00:21:55,650 --> 00:21:56,901
I've ever seen.
469
00:21:56,943 --> 00:21:59,070
Look at this.
470
00:21:59,112 --> 00:22:01,989
- And he's telling me about
Robert De Niro's demeanor
471
00:22:02,031 --> 00:22:03,950
from "Cape Fear."
472
00:22:03,991 --> 00:22:07,286
The next week rolled around
and we had promo class,
473
00:22:07,328 --> 00:22:11,457
and it blew everybody's mind.
474
00:22:11,499 --> 00:22:15,503
- Because I am like God,
and God like me.
475
00:22:15,545 --> 00:22:17,296
You know, I'm as large as him.
476
00:22:17,338 --> 00:22:20,091
He is as small as I.
477
00:22:21,926 --> 00:22:26,973
- And just like that,
Bray Wyatt was born.
478
00:22:27,014 --> 00:22:29,350
- He really attributed
a lot of Bray
479
00:22:29,392 --> 00:22:31,310
to growing up in Brooksville.
480
00:22:31,352 --> 00:22:33,646
- He had a really, really
close friend growing up,
481
00:22:33,688 --> 00:22:35,231
Brae White.
482
00:22:35,273 --> 00:22:38,860
Still to this day, the craziest
mother I've ever met.
483
00:22:38,901 --> 00:22:40,236
And this is a real person.
484
00:22:40,278 --> 00:22:42,196
He got in a car wreck
when he was younger
485
00:22:42,238 --> 00:22:43,531
and his head went
through the windshield
486
00:22:43,573 --> 00:22:45,116
and he lost all
feeling in his face,
487
00:22:45,158 --> 00:22:46,701
so he'd just headbutt
anything.
488
00:22:46,743 --> 00:22:50,705
And a lot
of his characteristics
489
00:22:50,747 --> 00:22:53,291
were taken and put
into the Bray Wyatt character.
490
00:22:53,332 --> 00:22:58,379
- I have never seen so clearly
in all my life.
491
00:22:59,797 --> 00:23:02,091
- Windham's cousin's name
is Wyatt.
492
00:23:02,133 --> 00:23:05,386
So Windham kind of mixed it up
and came up with Bray Wyatt.
493
00:23:05,428 --> 00:23:08,431
- And they say, Bray Wyatt,
well, he's crazy, man.
494
00:23:08,473 --> 00:23:11,225
He's a psychopath.
495
00:23:11,267 --> 00:23:12,769
- He came out,
and everything about it--
496
00:23:12,810 --> 00:23:15,688
the presentation
and just the energy--
497
00:23:15,730 --> 00:23:18,524
we were like, oh, this is good.
498
00:23:18,566 --> 00:23:19,984
This jumps off the page.
499
00:23:22,570 --> 00:23:24,489
- It blew everybody away.
500
00:23:24,530 --> 00:23:26,115
You wouldn't even know
if he was there.
501
00:23:26,157 --> 00:23:28,242
And then all of a sudden,
Bray Wyatt would emerge.
502
00:23:28,284 --> 00:23:30,328
And it was truly like
he walked into a phone booth
503
00:23:30,369 --> 00:23:32,288
and came out as Superman.
504
00:23:32,330 --> 00:23:33,790
- A lot of times,
those promos on promo day
505
00:23:33,831 --> 00:23:34,791
will be 60 seconds.
506
00:23:34,832 --> 00:23:36,626
90 if you ask for it.
507
00:23:36,667 --> 00:23:37,960
Windham would go
up there sometimes
508
00:23:38,002 --> 00:23:39,670
for, like,
six or seven minutes.
509
00:23:39,712 --> 00:23:42,298
I think Dusty gave him
just a lot of room
510
00:23:42,340 --> 00:23:44,300
to explore and to find
that character
511
00:23:44,342 --> 00:23:46,344
and to find the voice.
512
00:23:46,386 --> 00:23:49,847
- Dusty knew there was
something special there,
513
00:23:49,889 --> 00:23:51,849
and he wasn't
going to let it go.
514
00:23:51,891 --> 00:23:54,268
He knew Windham had
something that was
515
00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:56,813
going to change the business.
516
00:23:56,854 --> 00:23:58,815
- Said he was Bray.
517
00:23:58,856 --> 00:24:00,733
As we started
to enlighten the world
518
00:24:00,775 --> 00:24:03,277
who this Bray Wyatt
character was,
519
00:24:03,319 --> 00:24:07,240
Windham is such a unique kid
that he understands--
520
00:24:07,281 --> 00:24:08,533
he believes that.
521
00:24:08,574 --> 00:24:10,326
That's who he is.
522
00:24:10,368 --> 00:24:12,120
That's what makes him so good.
523
00:24:19,919 --> 00:24:21,754
- Dusty called me one day
and he said,
524
00:24:21,796 --> 00:24:23,297
"Kid, remember Husky?"
525
00:24:23,339 --> 00:24:24,716
And I was like, yeah.
526
00:24:24,757 --> 00:24:26,342
And he goes,
"He's got a new character.
527
00:24:26,384 --> 00:24:27,468
"You're going to love it.
528
00:24:27,510 --> 00:24:28,845
You got to come check it out."
529
00:24:28,886 --> 00:24:32,724
And he cut this promo,
and it was so bizarre.
530
00:24:32,765 --> 00:24:35,685
And Dusty said,
"What do you think?"
531
00:24:35,727 --> 00:24:38,646
And I'm like,
this is a movie character.
532
00:24:40,273 --> 00:24:43,109
- Within months,
Windham had an idea.
533
00:24:43,151 --> 00:24:46,154
He wanted an on-screen family.
534
00:24:46,195 --> 00:24:48,823
But his brother Taylor was
already an established singles
535
00:24:48,865 --> 00:24:52,827
competitor known as Bo Dallas.
536
00:24:52,869 --> 00:24:58,875
Enter John Huber,
also known as Luke Harper.
537
00:24:58,916 --> 00:25:01,002
- I had flown to FCW
for the tryout.
538
00:25:01,044 --> 00:25:03,171
And then I get a call
from Windham.
539
00:25:03,212 --> 00:25:05,923
And about 10 minutes later,
I hang up the phone.
540
00:25:05,965 --> 00:25:07,258
I hadn't said a word.
541
00:25:07,300 --> 00:25:08,926
And this guy had--
542
00:25:08,968 --> 00:25:11,596
Bray--had rattled off about
a million different things.
543
00:25:11,637 --> 00:25:13,639
And I was like, oh, my God,
that dude's nuts.
544
00:25:13,681 --> 00:25:15,099
Like, wow.
545
00:25:16,976 --> 00:25:19,562
- Windham and Luke had
an immediate bond.
546
00:25:19,604 --> 00:25:21,105
They just connected.
547
00:25:21,147 --> 00:25:24,233
So initially, it just
started as Bray and Luke.
548
00:25:24,275 --> 00:25:27,528
We created this
environment where,
549
00:25:27,570 --> 00:25:30,656
is he really talking to people
or is this all in his mind?
550
00:25:30,698 --> 00:25:31,699
- Here we go.
551
00:25:31,741 --> 00:25:34,160
In three, two, one.
552
00:25:34,202 --> 00:25:35,244
Action.
553
00:25:35,286 --> 00:25:36,704
- Can you feel that?
554
00:25:36,746 --> 00:25:41,375
Come with me, and I will show
you a love that is power.
555
00:25:41,417 --> 00:25:44,087
- The first shoot,
he's on the river.
556
00:25:44,128 --> 00:25:46,589
It's in the forest
right down from our house.
557
00:25:46,631 --> 00:25:49,717
And the guys had to go back
in with the alligators
558
00:25:49,759 --> 00:25:52,178
and the mosquitoes
and everything.
559
00:25:52,220 --> 00:25:53,971
- I almost fell
on that one, buddy.
560
00:25:55,348 --> 00:25:57,558
- Our first house was
on 10 acres, and we
561
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,228
were next to a zoo that
had lions and big cats
562
00:26:00,269 --> 00:26:02,105
and started hearing,
like, lion roars at night.
563
00:26:02,146 --> 00:26:04,273
So unique stuff would happen.
564
00:26:04,315 --> 00:26:05,525
And he pulled from that.
565
00:26:05,566 --> 00:26:08,736
- I wish you'd quit
lying to your children,
566
00:26:08,778 --> 00:26:11,072
telling them that there's
things out there that
567
00:26:11,114 --> 00:26:13,616
won't go bump in the night.
568
00:26:13,658 --> 00:26:15,284
What they going to do, man?
569
00:26:15,326 --> 00:26:19,247
What you going to do
to something like me?
570
00:26:19,288 --> 00:26:21,666
What can they do?
571
00:26:21,707 --> 00:26:23,292
Run.
572
00:26:24,669 --> 00:26:26,212
- There was something special
573
00:26:26,254 --> 00:26:29,799
and something interesting there
that could resonate.
574
00:26:29,841 --> 00:26:32,844
- My name is Bray Wyatt.
575
00:26:32,885 --> 00:26:34,637
Pleased to meet you, man.
576
00:26:34,679 --> 00:26:37,306
Help me welcome the first son
577
00:26:37,348 --> 00:26:42,019
of the Wyatt family,
Luke Harper.
578
00:26:42,061 --> 00:26:44,063
- This is getting weirder
by the second.
579
00:26:44,105 --> 00:26:45,898
- What is happening?
580
00:26:45,940 --> 00:26:48,067
- At the time,
I got this Viking gimmick.
581
00:26:48,109 --> 00:26:50,194
And I remember being
called into an office like,
582
00:26:50,236 --> 00:26:53,406
"OK, we want you
as the second son."
583
00:26:53,448 --> 00:26:55,658
And I was like, that's cool.
584
00:26:55,700 --> 00:26:57,326
What am I wearing?
585
00:26:57,368 --> 00:26:59,412
- Bray wanted Rowan
to wear a mask.
586
00:26:59,454 --> 00:27:02,165
So Rowan had a duffel bag
full of masks.
587
00:27:02,206 --> 00:27:05,043
And he pulls out
this sheep's mask.
588
00:27:05,084 --> 00:27:06,794
And Bray was like,
oh, I love it.
589
00:27:06,836 --> 00:27:08,671
That's perfect.
590
00:27:08,713 --> 00:27:10,339
- We are strong.
591
00:27:10,381 --> 00:27:12,300
We are dangerous.
592
00:27:12,341 --> 00:27:14,343
We are family.
593
00:27:17,346 --> 00:27:19,766
- I would bring home
these big rocking chairs,
594
00:27:19,807 --> 00:27:21,601
and he and I
and Taylor and Mike
595
00:27:21,642 --> 00:27:22,894
would just mess them all up
596
00:27:22,935 --> 00:27:24,187
and make them look
rough and beat up.
597
00:27:24,228 --> 00:27:25,813
And that's
the one they'll see
598
00:27:25,855 --> 00:27:27,231
in the scene in the barn.
599
00:27:29,859 --> 00:27:31,360
- We were having a blast.
600
00:27:31,402 --> 00:27:33,362
Sometimes, we would watch
old interviews
601
00:27:33,404 --> 00:27:35,156
with people that
were on death row
602
00:27:35,198 --> 00:27:37,450
because we're trying to see
how they speak.
603
00:27:37,492 --> 00:27:39,368
Why do they think
they're right?
604
00:27:39,410 --> 00:27:40,536
Just their mindset.
605
00:27:40,578 --> 00:27:42,455
And I think a lot of that
plays into, like,
606
00:27:42,497 --> 00:27:43,956
what he was able to create.
607
00:27:46,417 --> 00:27:51,214
- At age 26, Bray Wyatt
was an immediate hit.
608
00:27:51,255 --> 00:27:55,802
As Windham's stardom grew,
so did his family.
609
00:27:55,843 --> 00:27:57,762
He got married to Samantha.
610
00:27:57,804 --> 00:28:02,975
And on February 7, 2013,
his second daughter, Kendyl,
611
00:28:03,017 --> 00:28:05,395
was born.
612
00:28:05,436 --> 00:28:08,231
- Because he had missed
the first birth,
613
00:28:08,272 --> 00:28:09,899
I wanted to do
everything I could
614
00:28:09,941 --> 00:28:11,734
so he could be there
and experience it.
615
00:28:11,776 --> 00:28:13,194
Because I feel like
that's something
616
00:28:13,236 --> 00:28:14,570
that you have to experience.
617
00:28:14,612 --> 00:28:18,282
So we elected to be
induced with our second.
618
00:28:18,324 --> 00:28:20,910
That way, he could be there.
619
00:28:20,952 --> 00:28:23,830
- Windham was born to do a lot
and to be a lot of things.
620
00:28:23,871 --> 00:28:25,748
But being a daddy
was number one.
621
00:28:25,790 --> 00:28:27,917
When he loved,
he loved massively.
622
00:28:27,959 --> 00:28:31,587
And he had a whole heart
to give to his babies.
623
00:28:31,629 --> 00:28:34,215
- We all knew Windham was
going to be a great father.
624
00:28:34,257 --> 00:28:38,428
I mean, one of his strongest
qualities is how much he loves.
625
00:28:38,469 --> 00:28:41,639
And he already had plans
on where he was going
626
00:28:41,681 --> 00:28:43,516
and what he was going
to do, but his children,
627
00:28:43,558 --> 00:28:48,604
they just further instilled
more and more drive in him.
628
00:28:48,646 --> 00:28:51,315
- Three, two...
629
00:28:53,151 --> 00:28:54,485
- Good. Good. Good.
630
00:28:54,527 --> 00:28:55,486
Tell them.
631
00:28:55,528 --> 00:28:56,612
Tell them, Bray.
632
00:28:56,654 --> 00:28:57,655
- There we go.
633
00:28:57,697 --> 00:29:00,032
Deep in the woods.
634
00:29:00,074 --> 00:29:01,284
- Real deep dive.
635
00:29:02,326 --> 00:29:03,745
- Come on, guys.
636
00:29:03,786 --> 00:29:05,496
Start it over.
637
00:29:06,372 --> 00:29:09,459
- Preparations were underway
to get the Wyatt family
638
00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:12,295
ready for an even
bigger stage.
639
00:29:12,336 --> 00:29:14,964
- As you talk about
bringing Bray Wyatt
640
00:29:15,006 --> 00:29:18,134
and the family up to Raw
or to SmackDown and up
641
00:29:18,176 --> 00:29:19,969
into the big show,
now, how do you
642
00:29:20,011 --> 00:29:22,305
take that,
put that into an arena?
643
00:29:22,346 --> 00:29:23,473
Let me talk to you
'cause I want you
644
00:29:23,514 --> 00:29:24,724
to understand
the psychology of it.
645
00:29:24,766 --> 00:29:25,808
- Let's go right now.
I'm ready.
646
00:29:25,850 --> 00:29:27,060
- It's subtle.
647
00:29:27,101 --> 00:29:28,603
That's where the lantern
came to be.
648
00:29:28,644 --> 00:29:30,813
I think, when I threw it
at him, he loved--
649
00:29:30,855 --> 00:29:32,356
like, all the lights
should go out
650
00:29:32,398 --> 00:29:34,942
and this creepy ass dude
comes out
651
00:29:34,984 --> 00:29:36,861
of the swamp holding a lantern.
652
00:29:36,903 --> 00:29:38,946
And just slightly
beneath your face.
653
00:29:38,988 --> 00:29:40,615
But it would give me
enough light to see that.
654
00:29:40,656 --> 00:29:43,618
Those were the things that
we sort of collaborated on
655
00:29:43,659 --> 00:29:46,079
a lot and put
the character together.
656
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,748
- That's fun. I like that.
657
00:29:48,790 --> 00:29:53,336
- In the summer of 2013,
Bray Wyatt was ready
658
00:29:53,378 --> 00:29:55,671
to make his debut
on the national stage.
659
00:29:57,215 --> 00:29:59,300
- This is Monday Night Raw.
660
00:29:59,342 --> 00:30:04,013
The WWE fans in Baltimore
are on their feet.
661
00:30:04,055 --> 00:30:05,765
- We finally got the call-up.
662
00:30:05,807 --> 00:30:09,852
And I don't know if we really
understood what we had.
663
00:30:09,894 --> 00:30:13,898
We knew the "NXT" crowd had
responded so well to us.
664
00:30:13,940 --> 00:30:15,650
We never in
a million years thought
665
00:30:15,691 --> 00:30:18,861
it was going to explode
the way it did.
666
00:30:18,903 --> 00:30:20,571
We're here.
667
00:30:30,748 --> 00:30:32,792
- Bray Wyatt's emergence
on Monday Night Raw
668
00:30:32,834 --> 00:30:36,045
as the leader of
the cult-like Wyatt Family
669
00:30:36,087 --> 00:30:41,718
was unlike anything the WWE
Universe had seen before.
670
00:30:41,759 --> 00:30:44,178
- He was just such
a captivating talker.
671
00:30:44,220 --> 00:30:47,056
And he was doing stuff
that no one else was doing.
672
00:30:47,098 --> 00:30:49,267
Because in wrestling,
you get so much bombast
673
00:30:49,308 --> 00:30:51,728
and you're taught to, like,
play to the nosebleeds.
674
00:30:51,769 --> 00:30:54,689
But the way he could just
deliver something very softly
675
00:30:54,731 --> 00:30:56,899
and it would, like,
send chills up your spine--
676
00:30:56,941 --> 00:30:58,901
- Tomorrow morning
when you wake up,
677
00:30:58,943 --> 00:31:00,987
you go back to being
just another one
678
00:31:01,028 --> 00:31:03,573
of those anonymous souls.
679
00:31:05,074 --> 00:31:06,576
- That stuff, I think,
was mesmerizing.
680
00:31:06,617 --> 00:31:09,579
And in many ways, he's
portraying this cult leader,
681
00:31:09,620 --> 00:31:10,830
but it almost felt real.
682
00:31:10,872 --> 00:31:13,624
Like, he was gathering
people's interest.
683
00:31:13,666 --> 00:31:16,294
- He put his whole heart
and soul into that character.
684
00:31:16,335 --> 00:31:19,088
And that transcended through
the camera and on TV.
685
00:31:19,130 --> 00:31:20,173
And you could feel it.
686
00:31:20,214 --> 00:31:23,176
all: This is awesome!
687
00:31:23,217 --> 00:31:26,679
- It was eerie, but you
knew that it was special
688
00:31:26,721 --> 00:31:29,599
because it felt almost
like a movie character.
689
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,309
It felt like you were
watching something
690
00:31:31,350 --> 00:31:33,227
that shouldn't be in
professional wrestling--
691
00:31:33,269 --> 00:31:34,812
that didn't fit.
692
00:31:34,854 --> 00:31:36,689
- Oh, my God!
693
00:31:36,731 --> 00:31:39,442
- It was very interesting
to watch him create something
694
00:31:39,484 --> 00:31:42,111
that made sense in our world.
695
00:31:43,946 --> 00:31:46,532
- As soon as I saw Bray Wyatt
and the Wyatt Family,
696
00:31:46,574 --> 00:31:50,036
I was instantly
connected to it.
697
00:31:50,078 --> 00:31:56,084
I've always loved characters
that have this darkness to it,
698
00:31:56,125 --> 00:32:00,671
but a darkness that
is there for a reason.
699
00:32:00,713 --> 00:32:03,925
- Within a few months,
Bray Wyatt was
700
00:32:03,966 --> 00:32:09,430
vaulted into a rivalry
with a top star, John Cena.
701
00:32:09,472 --> 00:32:12,350
- I could be just like you.
702
00:32:12,392 --> 00:32:16,270
I could sign autographs
and kiss babies
703
00:32:16,312 --> 00:32:20,358
and make sure that everyone
buys all my merchandise.
704
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,362
- The main focus of Bray
Wyatt's character was chaos.
705
00:32:24,404 --> 00:32:28,449
- I am different than
anyone you will ever face.
706
00:32:28,491 --> 00:32:30,493
- The ability
to just be a person
707
00:32:30,535 --> 00:32:32,870
that wants to see
the world burn.
708
00:32:32,912 --> 00:32:35,456
And man, when you
start breaking down
709
00:32:35,498 --> 00:32:38,793
the stuff he was saying,
it's, like, super deep.
710
00:32:38,835 --> 00:32:43,172
- The loneliest man on Earth
is the man who sits alone
711
00:32:43,214 --> 00:32:46,509
atop his empty castle.
712
00:32:46,551 --> 00:32:50,012
Who will be left for you, John?
713
00:32:50,054 --> 00:32:52,306
- But he was so entertaining
that if you didn't take
714
00:32:52,348 --> 00:32:54,183
anything away from it, cool.
715
00:32:54,225 --> 00:32:56,144
And if you wanted
to dive in the rabbit hole,
716
00:32:56,185 --> 00:32:58,146
you were going
to some weird places.
717
00:32:59,731 --> 00:33:01,816
all: This is awesome!
718
00:33:01,858 --> 00:33:04,986
- So it was like, holy shit,
we got something here.
719
00:33:05,027 --> 00:33:09,490
- At WrestleMania,
John Cena takes on Bray Wyatt.
720
00:33:09,532 --> 00:33:15,288
- Windham had made it
to the big time, WrestleMania.
721
00:33:15,329 --> 00:33:18,708
- New Orleans,
a weird voodoo-based town
722
00:33:18,750 --> 00:33:21,836
to get the WrestleMania
debut of Bray Wyatt.
723
00:33:21,878 --> 00:33:23,504
It really was special.
724
00:33:23,546 --> 00:33:25,631
- We all had dreams and goals.
725
00:33:25,673 --> 00:33:27,925
And me and Windham talked
about them endlessly.
726
00:33:27,967 --> 00:33:30,970
You know, like, if we can
make it to WrestleMania
727
00:33:31,012 --> 00:33:34,599
and get a match on that
platform, then we had made it.
728
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,810
- * You could find him in *
729
00:33:37,852 --> 00:33:39,562
- We all knew
he was going to get there,
730
00:33:39,604 --> 00:33:43,232
but we didn't know he was
going to get there that fast.
731
00:33:43,274 --> 00:33:46,861
- To see him go
from the lowest of lows
732
00:33:46,903 --> 00:33:50,448
to figuring out who he was,
catching fire,
733
00:33:50,490 --> 00:33:52,200
and then working with
one of the greatest
734
00:33:52,241 --> 00:33:54,327
of all time, John Cena,
at WrestleMania,
735
00:33:54,368 --> 00:33:55,745
I mean,
it's an incredible story,
736
00:33:55,787 --> 00:33:57,914
and especially in such
a short period of time.
737
00:33:57,955 --> 00:33:59,248
- And here we go.
738
00:33:59,290 --> 00:34:01,000
This much-anticipated
match underway.
739
00:34:01,042 --> 00:34:02,418
Oh! Wow.
740
00:34:02,460 --> 00:34:04,420
- Growing up watching our dad
741
00:34:04,462 --> 00:34:05,421
and watching our uncles
742
00:34:05,463 --> 00:34:07,048
and watching our grandfather,
743
00:34:07,090 --> 00:34:09,759
the grandest stage of all
is going to be WrestleMania.
744
00:34:09,801 --> 00:34:13,429
And I remember sitting there
going, that's my big brother.
745
00:34:13,471 --> 00:34:15,473
- Bray Wyatt is trying
to sway the masses,
746
00:34:15,515 --> 00:34:16,849
and I'm not sure
it's not working.
747
00:34:16,891 --> 00:34:19,394
- The shepherd leading his
flock.
748
00:34:19,435 --> 00:34:20,812
- We were all excited for him.
749
00:34:20,853 --> 00:34:23,606
And even Mike and I
were just, wow.
750
00:34:23,648 --> 00:34:24,941
Wow.
751
00:34:24,982 --> 00:34:27,026
Because it's your kid,
and it's, you know,
752
00:34:27,068 --> 00:34:28,111
that was the first time
753
00:34:28,152 --> 00:34:29,612
I saw him bigger than life.
754
00:34:29,654 --> 00:34:31,280
- Cena, second rope.
Caught by Wyatt!
755
00:34:31,322 --> 00:34:32,615
Oh! That could be it!
756
00:34:32,657 --> 00:34:34,033
- What an impact!
- Shoulders are down!
757
00:34:34,075 --> 00:34:35,159
- Kick out in two.
758
00:34:35,201 --> 00:34:37,620
- I was very happy for him.
759
00:34:37,662 --> 00:34:40,331
It's a good feeling
in your heart as a parent
760
00:34:40,373 --> 00:34:44,627
to see your kid work really
hard and get rewarded for it.
761
00:34:44,669 --> 00:34:46,754
- Whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa.
762
00:34:46,796 --> 00:34:48,256
That stopped Cena
in his tracks.
763
00:34:48,297 --> 00:34:49,674
- What is that?
764
00:34:49,716 --> 00:34:52,051
- I've never seen a match
quite like this.
765
00:34:52,093 --> 00:34:54,846
- 20 years from now,
they'll go, wow, this moment
766
00:34:54,887 --> 00:34:56,848
happened with John.
767
00:34:56,889 --> 00:35:00,268
That's what I'm
looking forward to.
768
00:35:00,309 --> 00:35:01,769
- AA for Cena.
769
00:35:01,811 --> 00:35:02,895
Hook of the leg.
770
00:35:02,937 --> 00:35:06,566
John Cena's legacy grows.
771
00:35:06,607 --> 00:35:09,652
- It was spectacular.
772
00:35:09,694 --> 00:35:11,320
I'm an advocate
for, it takes 10 years
773
00:35:11,362 --> 00:35:12,822
to establish sort of fluency.
774
00:35:12,864 --> 00:35:16,451
And I know Husky Harris didn't
work out, but holy shit.
775
00:35:16,492 --> 00:35:19,579
When he came back, it was like
fluency in six months.
776
00:35:19,620 --> 00:35:23,082
That is a meteoric rise.
777
00:35:23,124 --> 00:35:24,667
- An incredible scene.
778
00:35:24,709 --> 00:35:27,086
And the sea of Fireflies--
what Bray Wyatt
779
00:35:27,128 --> 00:35:29,714
calls his followers--
lighting the arena.
780
00:35:35,053 --> 00:35:37,513
- The lantern, to me, is like--
this is one of the many things
781
00:35:37,555 --> 00:35:39,057
I loved about your brother
is that
782
00:35:39,098 --> 00:35:41,350
he could make anything iconic.
783
00:35:41,392 --> 00:35:42,685
- And this one's, like,
the first one too.
784
00:35:42,727 --> 00:35:43,895
So it was much simpler.
- Yeah.
785
00:35:43,936 --> 00:35:46,272
This is it.
This is the very first one.
786
00:35:46,314 --> 00:35:48,441
* *
787
00:35:48,483 --> 00:35:52,612
- Looking at this,
it reminds me
788
00:35:52,653 --> 00:35:55,156
of the birth of the Fireflies.
789
00:35:55,198 --> 00:35:57,283
Like...
790
00:35:57,325 --> 00:36:00,244
to see that as
it was happening was--
791
00:36:04,540 --> 00:36:06,250
I have a memory--
792
00:36:06,292 --> 00:36:07,627
it was Madison Square Garden--
793
00:36:07,668 --> 00:36:09,670
and I got to see his entrance.
794
00:36:11,756 --> 00:36:13,341
And...
795
00:36:16,469 --> 00:36:18,012
- I mean,
because that's it, right?
796
00:36:18,054 --> 00:36:19,222
Madison Square Garden is the--
797
00:36:19,263 --> 00:36:21,307
- It's something
I'll never forget.
798
00:36:21,349 --> 00:36:25,228
To look out...
799
00:36:25,269 --> 00:36:30,108
and see the sea of lights.
800
00:36:30,149 --> 00:36:34,737
* *
801
00:36:34,779 --> 00:36:38,574
The Fireflies, we had
never seen before in WWE.
802
00:36:38,616 --> 00:36:42,620
And I don't know
if we'll ever see it again.
803
00:36:46,958 --> 00:36:48,459
- We're here.
804
00:36:49,252 --> 00:36:51,921
It was created by
the fans on their own.
805
00:36:51,963 --> 00:36:54,090
You know, they call
themselves the Fireflies.
806
00:36:54,132 --> 00:36:55,633
And it became their own thing.
807
00:36:55,675 --> 00:36:57,009
And now it's become
a spectacle.
808
00:36:57,051 --> 00:36:59,262
Like, almost a piece
of what you pay
809
00:36:59,303 --> 00:37:00,680
to come see at a WWE show
810
00:37:00,722 --> 00:37:02,306
is the Wyatt entrance.
811
00:37:02,348 --> 00:37:07,645
- When you get is not just
typical fan participation.
812
00:37:07,687 --> 00:37:10,148
You get this idea that
everything this character
813
00:37:10,189 --> 00:37:11,941
is saying is true.
814
00:37:11,983 --> 00:37:14,444
Because every little light
that is around
815
00:37:14,485 --> 00:37:16,028
this darkened arena
816
00:37:16,070 --> 00:37:18,823
represents somebody
that's buying in
817
00:37:18,865 --> 00:37:22,660
to whatever this malicious
character is selling.
818
00:37:22,702 --> 00:37:24,120
- He just found a niche.
819
00:37:24,162 --> 00:37:26,998
And finding a niche
is a really hard thing to do,
820
00:37:27,039 --> 00:37:29,792
you know, and make it
last for a while.
821
00:37:29,834 --> 00:37:32,253
- The matches, the promos,
all of it's
822
00:37:32,295 --> 00:37:36,257
just avenues that we take to do
what we're really doing here,
823
00:37:36,299 --> 00:37:37,759
which is connect
with the audience.
824
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:38,926
That's it.
825
00:37:38,968 --> 00:37:40,720
So if you find a way
to do that,
826
00:37:40,762 --> 00:37:41,971
that's your ticket.
827
00:37:42,013 --> 00:37:43,431
That's how you climb
the ladder.
828
00:37:43,473 --> 00:37:45,558
And he clearly did.
829
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,984
- When people would approach
him, they wanted to meet Bray.
830
00:37:55,026 --> 00:37:58,529
And Windham gave them who
he was and he took his time.
831
00:37:58,571 --> 00:37:59,781
- Would you like anything else?
832
00:37:59,822 --> 00:38:01,199
Oh, is this for me?
- Yeah.
833
00:38:01,240 --> 00:38:02,366
- Oh, thank you.
834
00:38:02,408 --> 00:38:03,451
- I appreciate
everything you do.
835
00:38:03,493 --> 00:38:04,869
- Thank you very much.
836
00:38:04,911 --> 00:38:06,287
- Whatever you have
going on in your life,
837
00:38:06,329 --> 00:38:07,622
it matters to me.
838
00:38:07,663 --> 00:38:09,707
Even if we have
a five-minute interaction,
839
00:38:09,749 --> 00:38:11,542
whatever you want to tell me
is important to me
840
00:38:11,584 --> 00:38:13,336
and I'm going to
genuinely listen.
841
00:38:13,378 --> 00:38:14,754
And when I walk away from you,
842
00:38:14,796 --> 00:38:16,339
I'm going to leave you
better than I found you.
843
00:38:27,016 --> 00:38:28,059
- Thank you.
844
00:38:28,101 --> 00:38:31,270
- Ready? 1, 2, 3.
845
00:38:31,312 --> 00:38:33,356
- He's my favorite wrestler
of all time.
846
00:38:33,398 --> 00:38:36,067
I'm still shaking.
847
00:38:36,109 --> 00:38:37,151
Love you, Bray.
848
00:38:37,193 --> 00:38:38,569
Don't forget your autograph.
849
00:38:39,404 --> 00:38:40,571
- Everything. You really are.
850
00:38:41,489 --> 00:38:42,740
- He just had it.
851
00:38:42,782 --> 00:38:45,618
And not only it,
he had everything else
852
00:38:45,660 --> 00:38:46,661
to go along with that.
853
00:38:46,702 --> 00:38:47,703
- I'm blessed to be here.
854
00:38:47,745 --> 00:38:48,955
- Nice to meet you.
855
00:38:48,996 --> 00:38:50,039
All right, man.
856
00:38:51,791 --> 00:38:53,543
- I don't think
I've ever seen anyone
857
00:38:53,584 --> 00:38:56,379
so committed
to being a character.
858
00:38:56,421 --> 00:38:59,257
And when he was Bray Wyatt,
859
00:38:59,298 --> 00:39:01,759
I don't know if anyone
was more believable.
860
00:39:01,801 --> 00:39:04,053
I don't know if anyone
immersed you as much,
861
00:39:04,095 --> 00:39:07,598
if anyone made you believe
as much as he did.
862
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,684
He was just one of
the most cerebral performers
863
00:39:09,726 --> 00:39:12,353
I think that I'd ever met
because his preparation
864
00:39:12,395 --> 00:39:13,396
was so real.
865
00:39:13,438 --> 00:39:15,064
- And action.
866
00:39:15,106 --> 00:39:16,858
- I'm here.
867
00:39:16,899 --> 00:39:19,402
You're here.
868
00:39:19,444 --> 00:39:21,446
We're all here.
869
00:39:22,780 --> 00:39:25,575
- I remember being in
the backstage one time.
870
00:39:25,616 --> 00:39:28,995
And as I'm walking past,
I see, like, Windham
871
00:39:29,036 --> 00:39:31,539
out of the corner
of my eye like this
872
00:39:31,581 --> 00:39:33,958
up to the wall in
this little alcove.
873
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,294
And he's just going over his
promo and going over his promo
874
00:39:36,335 --> 00:39:38,046
and going over his promo.
875
00:39:38,087 --> 00:39:41,090
And I remember thinking,
wow, I wish I could
876
00:39:41,132 --> 00:39:44,719
have that type of focus
and that type of dedication
877
00:39:44,761 --> 00:39:48,181
and that type of commitment
to the character.
878
00:39:48,222 --> 00:39:51,100
He's such a creative guy.
879
00:39:51,142 --> 00:39:54,645
- Windham's commitment
to his craft caught my eye.
880
00:39:54,687 --> 00:39:56,397
I knew this kid was special.
881
00:39:56,439 --> 00:40:00,943
And the time was right
for us to meet in the ring.
882
00:40:00,985 --> 00:40:02,904
- When I got that message
that I was
883
00:40:02,945 --> 00:40:05,448
going to have the luxury
and the privilege of competing
884
00:40:05,490 --> 00:40:07,867
against the Undertaker
at WrestleMania,
885
00:40:07,909 --> 00:40:09,869
I was immediately
like, oh, my God.
886
00:40:09,911 --> 00:40:14,123
I am Bray Wyatt,
the new face of fear!
887
00:40:14,165 --> 00:40:16,751
And then I remember
he was in the room.
888
00:40:16,793 --> 00:40:18,961
And I remember him kind of--
889
00:40:19,003 --> 00:40:20,963
you know,
when he does his finger.
890
00:40:21,005 --> 00:40:24,425
And he called me in.
891
00:40:24,467 --> 00:40:26,469
And he sat me down real calm.
892
00:40:26,511 --> 00:40:29,514
And he was like,
are you ready to do this?
893
00:40:29,555 --> 00:40:34,102
And like, you know,
I'm like, yeah.
894
00:40:34,143 --> 00:40:36,354
This is everything
I've ever trained for.
895
00:40:36,396 --> 00:40:38,815
Of course I'm ready for this.
896
00:40:38,856 --> 00:40:41,692
- It will be a night
forever etched in history
897
00:40:41,734 --> 00:40:45,071
and legends will be born.
898
00:40:45,113 --> 00:40:47,615
- It was huge.
899
00:40:47,657 --> 00:40:49,659
Nobody can touch
the Undertaker.
900
00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:52,662
I mean, he had his
action figures.
901
00:40:52,703 --> 00:40:54,288
- You think Bray Wyatt
might be having
902
00:40:54,330 --> 00:40:55,790
second thoughts right now?
903
00:40:55,832 --> 00:40:57,583
- I enjoyed it because
it's like watching
904
00:40:57,625 --> 00:41:02,755
the Freddy versus Jason live
or Godzilla versus King Kong.
905
00:41:02,797 --> 00:41:04,799
- Bray Wyatt wanted
to dance with the devil?
906
00:41:04,841 --> 00:41:06,551
Welcome to hell.
907
00:41:12,348 --> 00:41:15,017
- That night on
the grandest stage,
908
00:41:15,059 --> 00:41:18,646
Windham proved he was
a legend in the making.
909
00:41:20,356 --> 00:41:23,151
- That, indeed, is
the new face of fear.
910
00:41:23,192 --> 00:41:25,737
- That WrestleMania match
did more for me
911
00:41:25,778 --> 00:41:28,197
than I could ever
put into words.
912
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:29,991
- Oh, what a WrestleMania
moment!
913
00:41:30,032 --> 00:41:32,869
- At that time, I was
struggling with my confidence.
914
00:41:32,910 --> 00:41:34,996
And that night,
Windham helped restore
915
00:41:35,037 --> 00:41:36,706
not only the Undertaker...
916
00:41:36,748 --> 00:41:40,418
- The Undertaker did it!
917
00:41:40,460 --> 00:41:42,795
- But Mark Calaway, as well.
918
00:41:43,963 --> 00:41:45,298
- He's like your father.
919
00:41:45,339 --> 00:41:47,884
And he is responsible
for so much
920
00:41:47,925 --> 00:41:49,719
of the progression
of this business.
921
00:41:49,761 --> 00:41:51,054
You know, not just in the ring,
922
00:41:51,095 --> 00:41:53,056
but what he did
behind the stages
923
00:41:53,097 --> 00:41:57,852
to kind of show everyone
and lead by his example.
924
00:41:57,894 --> 00:42:03,566
- By 2015, Bray Wyatt
was box office.
925
00:42:03,608 --> 00:42:07,195
And all the while, he was
becoming a trusted mentor
926
00:42:07,236 --> 00:42:08,613
behind the scenes.
927
00:42:10,573 --> 00:42:14,118
- I hadn't been into
the business for too long.
928
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,413
The second he laid eyes on me,
he pulled me off to the side
929
00:42:17,455 --> 00:42:20,833
and he was like, "I want you
to be a part of us.
930
00:42:20,875 --> 00:42:22,835
I don't know how, when, where."
931
00:42:22,877 --> 00:42:27,173
He was like,
"But holy cow, look at you."
932
00:42:27,215 --> 00:42:28,925
- What the--
933
00:42:32,512 --> 00:42:33,888
This guy is a monster.
934
00:42:33,930 --> 00:42:36,557
Look at the size of him.
935
00:42:36,599 --> 00:42:41,854
- From day one, he treated me
like I was like a brother.
936
00:42:41,896 --> 00:42:44,399
He taught me all kinds
of stuff in the ring.
937
00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:47,527
But honestly, like,
I learned more from him about
938
00:42:47,568 --> 00:42:49,529
the real world, I feel like.
939
00:42:49,570 --> 00:42:51,948
You know, him being
a third-generation wrestler,
940
00:42:51,989 --> 00:42:53,282
being in this business,
941
00:42:53,324 --> 00:42:54,826
already been on TV,
established,
942
00:42:54,867 --> 00:42:57,495
and stuff like that,
he'd already navigated
943
00:42:57,537 --> 00:42:59,622
the wolves in the forest.
944
00:42:59,664 --> 00:43:04,585
He was just that guy that just
made sure everyone was happy
945
00:43:04,627 --> 00:43:06,796
and everyone was
well taken care of
946
00:43:06,838 --> 00:43:09,298
and felt like they belonged.
947
00:43:09,340 --> 00:43:11,884
- I remember coming up
and being afraid
948
00:43:11,926 --> 00:43:13,928
and being scared and being
away from home.
949
00:43:13,970 --> 00:43:18,182
And the warmth
and the humility with which
950
00:43:18,224 --> 00:43:22,353
he talked to you like he
was on the same level as you
951
00:43:22,395 --> 00:43:26,274
and with just
no pretenses about him.
952
00:43:26,315 --> 00:43:27,692
- I think he really
loved people.
953
00:43:27,734 --> 00:43:30,027
And I think he loved
positively affecting people.
954
00:43:30,069 --> 00:43:33,489
And he loved seeing people
smile or laugh.
955
00:43:33,531 --> 00:43:35,491
- Even when he was like,
you know, had been on the road
956
00:43:35,533 --> 00:43:37,994
for two weeks and just wanted
to get home and see his kids,
957
00:43:38,035 --> 00:43:40,580
like, he was still always
in a good mood.
958
00:43:40,621 --> 00:43:46,044
He was just such a pleasure
to be around as a human being.
959
00:43:46,085 --> 00:43:48,212
- Windham's lineage
and the fact that the business
960
00:43:48,254 --> 00:43:53,176
is in his blood, not only was
he this interesting performer,
961
00:43:53,217 --> 00:43:55,094
but he had a lot of respect
for the business.
962
00:43:55,136 --> 00:43:56,512
A lot.
963
00:43:56,554 --> 00:44:01,184
And he had a lot of camaraderie
with the superstars.
964
00:44:01,225 --> 00:44:05,354
He was really fun to be around
and always wanted everybody
965
00:44:05,396 --> 00:44:07,106
to have a good time.
966
00:44:07,148 --> 00:44:08,941
- He could light up
a room in an instant.
967
00:44:08,983 --> 00:44:11,027
He was the guy
who was a chameleon.
968
00:44:11,069 --> 00:44:14,030
He was the guy that everybody
was best friends with.
969
00:44:14,072 --> 00:44:17,033
He had a certain draw to him.
970
00:44:17,075 --> 00:44:19,118
- He just had a charisma,
a zest for life.
971
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:20,453
Like, you were drawn to him.
972
00:44:20,495 --> 00:44:21,746
He was a very magnetic person.
973
00:44:26,751 --> 00:44:30,713
- This is the greatest night
in live entertainment.
974
00:44:30,755 --> 00:44:33,257
- WrestleMania 32.
975
00:44:33,299 --> 00:44:36,677
Over 100,000 Fireflies
lit up the sky
976
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:40,264
for Bray Wyatt, a spectacle
that was recognized
977
00:44:40,306 --> 00:44:43,768
by one of the greatest WWE
superstars of all time,
978
00:44:43,810 --> 00:44:47,939
Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson.
979
00:44:47,980 --> 00:44:49,232
- The Rock's had his eye on you
980
00:44:49,273 --> 00:44:51,275
ever since you came
into the WWE.
981
00:44:51,317 --> 00:44:54,320
You got it all.
982
00:44:54,362 --> 00:44:56,447
You hold people in the palm
of your hands.
983
00:44:56,489 --> 00:44:58,366
When the lights went out,
you came down,
984
00:44:58,408 --> 00:45:00,618
100,000 people had
their phones up.
985
00:45:00,660 --> 00:45:03,287
100,000 people.
986
00:45:03,329 --> 00:45:05,415
- He was almost bulletproof
at that point.
987
00:45:05,456 --> 00:45:08,084
I never saw him exhibit
any nerves
988
00:45:08,126 --> 00:45:10,712
as he's lining up
for these huge main events.
989
00:45:10,753 --> 00:45:13,256
You simply couldn't
take your eyes off him.
990
00:45:13,297 --> 00:45:15,925
- After four years
on the main roster,
991
00:45:15,967 --> 00:45:22,140
there was a milestone that
Bray Wyatt had yet to achieve.
992
00:45:22,181 --> 00:45:24,267
- When everything
is said and done,
993
00:45:24,308 --> 00:45:30,565
I will be leaving
the new WWE champion!
994
00:45:30,606 --> 00:45:31,816
- Phenomenal form.
995
00:45:31,858 --> 00:45:33,735
No, it's blocked by Wyatt.
996
00:45:33,776 --> 00:45:36,654
Sister Abigail on AJ Styles.
997
00:45:36,696 --> 00:45:38,614
- One, two, three!
998
00:45:42,618 --> 00:45:44,579
- Bray Wyatt has done it.
999
00:45:44,620 --> 00:45:48,291
In the soul-stealing structure
known as the Elimination
1000
00:45:48,332 --> 00:45:52,503
Chamber, Bray Wyatt has won
his first WWE Championship.
1001
00:45:54,505 --> 00:45:57,717
- The company had put their
stamp on him and said,
1002
00:45:57,759 --> 00:45:59,302
this is going to be our guy.
1003
00:45:59,343 --> 00:46:02,847
I mean, there's not
many better feelings
1004
00:46:02,889 --> 00:46:07,018
from a performer's perspective
when you finally get that.
1005
00:46:07,060 --> 00:46:10,354
- In this hellacious match,
Bray Wyatt rose from the ashes
1006
00:46:10,396 --> 00:46:13,149
to taste the ultimate glory.
1007
00:46:13,191 --> 00:46:17,153
The era of Wyatt is here.
1008
00:46:17,195 --> 00:46:19,489
- He was the first
in the family to win,
1009
00:46:19,530 --> 00:46:23,034
which is pretty good
considering your grandfather
1010
00:46:23,076 --> 00:46:25,953
did it, your uncles did it,
your dad did it.
1011
00:46:25,995 --> 00:46:27,080
And you were the first.
1012
00:46:27,121 --> 00:46:28,956
So that's cool.
1013
00:46:28,998 --> 00:46:31,501
- Out of all of us,
that I'm the one that did it--
1014
00:46:31,542 --> 00:46:34,337
my whole entire life,
no matter what accolade,
1015
00:46:34,379 --> 00:46:36,881
what thing I did great,
the first paragraph
1016
00:46:36,923 --> 00:46:38,674
was about everyone else
in my family
1017
00:46:38,716 --> 00:46:40,843
that was not me and all
the things they had done.
1018
00:46:40,885 --> 00:46:44,222
And now it's like, when you
look at anything about them,
1019
00:46:44,263 --> 00:46:47,183
it's a whole paragraph
about me.
1020
00:46:47,225 --> 00:46:48,976
- When you're working
with talent,
1021
00:46:49,018 --> 00:46:50,395
you form a bond with them
1022
00:46:50,436 --> 00:46:52,188
and you know the human being
behind it
1023
00:46:52,230 --> 00:46:54,941
and you know how hard
they work at it.
1024
00:46:54,982 --> 00:46:59,570
Windham winning a title that
had eluded his entire family,
1025
00:46:59,612 --> 00:47:02,115
that was so special.
1026
00:47:02,156 --> 00:47:03,241
- I was there.
1027
00:47:03,282 --> 00:47:05,159
It was huge. I cried.
1028
00:47:05,201 --> 00:47:08,246
It was very, very cool.
1029
00:47:08,287 --> 00:47:10,164
- If I go back and look
at the landscape
1030
00:47:10,206 --> 00:47:14,127
of my life and my career here,
the ridiculously hard times
1031
00:47:14,168 --> 00:47:16,212
are kind of what
strengthened me.
1032
00:47:16,254 --> 00:47:18,381
I knew that sooner
or later I'd get to it,
1033
00:47:18,423 --> 00:47:22,051
it was just a matter
of how and when.
1034
00:47:22,093 --> 00:47:23,219
- It was huge for him.
1035
00:47:23,261 --> 00:47:24,470
Getting on top was one thing.
1036
00:47:24,512 --> 00:47:26,180
To stay there...
1037
00:47:28,891 --> 00:47:31,936
- Being on top means
numerous appearances,
1038
00:47:31,978 --> 00:47:37,775
new responsibilities,
and more time away from home.
1039
00:47:37,817 --> 00:47:41,362
- Me and Bray were very close,
especially for that stint.
1040
00:47:41,404 --> 00:47:43,906
We were working
so closely together
1041
00:47:43,948 --> 00:47:45,491
and we were really
telling some good stories
1042
00:47:45,533 --> 00:47:47,577
and having a lot of fun on TV.
1043
00:47:47,618 --> 00:47:49,662
I feel like we're shooting
a movie
1044
00:47:49,704 --> 00:47:50,872
for SyFy channel right now.
1045
00:47:52,206 --> 00:47:53,916
- But being on the road,
it's tough.
1046
00:47:53,958 --> 00:47:57,587
When guys start having kids
and we get a little older,
1047
00:47:57,628 --> 00:48:00,298
you know, things change.
1048
00:48:00,339 --> 00:48:02,925
It's very hard to balance,
especially when
1049
00:48:02,967 --> 00:48:04,343
you're a young man.
1050
00:48:04,385 --> 00:48:08,681
The work and home life
balance, if you will.
1051
00:48:08,723 --> 00:48:11,893
It's virtually impossible.
1052
00:48:11,934 --> 00:48:14,103
- Oh! RKO!
1053
00:48:14,145 --> 00:48:17,023
Randy Orton is champion!
1054
00:48:19,192 --> 00:48:23,446
- It was just after
WrestleMania in Orlando.
1055
00:48:23,488 --> 00:48:27,283
Things were not
what they used to be.
1056
00:48:27,325 --> 00:48:29,577
He was on the road
and traveling
1057
00:48:29,619 --> 00:48:31,621
and I was at home
with the kids.
1058
00:48:31,662 --> 00:48:35,875
And we ultimately
got divorced.
1059
00:48:35,917 --> 00:48:39,670
Our lives just grew apart.
1060
00:48:39,712 --> 00:48:43,716
- He was absent.
1061
00:48:43,758 --> 00:48:46,052
Mind, body, and soul.
1062
00:48:46,094 --> 00:48:50,139
The divorce in that time of his
life was a devastating ordeal.
1063
00:48:53,518 --> 00:48:58,189
- Windham's frustrations
affected his focus.
1064
00:48:58,231 --> 00:48:59,941
- So, guys, remember
long at the beginning.
1065
00:48:59,982 --> 00:49:01,150
Just --let's go.
1066
00:49:01,192 --> 00:49:03,361
- Yep. In five.
1067
00:49:03,403 --> 00:49:06,614
- Windham was very emotionally
attached to his work.
1068
00:49:06,656 --> 00:49:09,492
When things went great,
they were great.
1069
00:49:09,534 --> 00:49:12,495
And when they went not so great
and they were frustrating,
1070
00:49:12,537 --> 00:49:15,832
they were exaggeratedly
frustrated.
1071
00:49:15,873 --> 00:49:18,042
- You going to cut me?
1072
00:49:18,084 --> 00:49:21,671
- Sometimes the hardest thing
to talk him into was, OK, yeah,
1073
00:49:21,713 --> 00:49:23,923
but how do we make that work
in the ring?
1074
00:49:23,965 --> 00:49:26,050
I get it. That shit is crazy.
1075
00:49:26,092 --> 00:49:27,385
It seems genius.
1076
00:49:27,427 --> 00:49:29,804
It's like, man,
I'm intrigued by that.
1077
00:49:29,846 --> 00:49:32,348
OK. But now, ding ding.
1078
00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:34,308
And that was
sometimes the trick.
1079
00:49:34,350 --> 00:49:37,437
He was so creative
and so outside the box
1080
00:49:37,478 --> 00:49:40,273
that pulling it back
into a particular genre
1081
00:49:40,314 --> 00:49:42,817
was hard for him to do.
1082
00:49:42,859 --> 00:49:45,236
- While Windham's brother
Taylor was finding success
1083
00:49:45,278 --> 00:49:50,658
as a WWE tag team champion,
Bray's on-screen Wyatt family
1084
00:49:50,700 --> 00:49:54,537
was no more.
1085
00:49:54,579 --> 00:49:56,581
- Harper and Rowan
had branched off
1086
00:49:56,622 --> 00:49:57,915
and become a tag team
on their own
1087
00:49:57,957 --> 00:49:59,917
called The Bludgeon Brothers.
1088
00:49:59,959 --> 00:50:01,836
Braun Strowman had become
1089
00:50:01,878 --> 00:50:04,797
a bona fide
main-event superstar.
1090
00:50:04,839 --> 00:50:07,759
The Bray Wyatt character
kind of found himself
1091
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,845
in a neutral position.
1092
00:50:10,887 --> 00:50:14,223
He was on TV, but he wasn't
really prominently featured.
1093
00:50:18,686 --> 00:50:20,480
- When I was working
with Harper and Rowan
1094
00:50:20,521 --> 00:50:22,440
doing the Bludgeon Brothers
stuff,
1095
00:50:22,482 --> 00:50:24,859
he'd come and check it out
and give the classic, like,
1096
00:50:24,901 --> 00:50:26,569
oh, baby.
1097
00:50:26,611 --> 00:50:28,404
Oh, you guys look good. Sexy.
1098
00:50:28,446 --> 00:50:30,406
You know, cracking jokes.
1099
00:50:30,448 --> 00:50:33,242
But you'd see every time
he'd see something artistic
1100
00:50:33,284 --> 00:50:35,078
and creative--like,
we'd make these things
1101
00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:36,412
for Harper and Rowan--
1102
00:50:36,454 --> 00:50:38,331
he'd be like, oh, I want that.
1103
00:50:38,372 --> 00:50:39,665
What can I do?
1104
00:50:39,707 --> 00:50:40,792
And you'd see the gears
start turning.
1105
00:50:40,833 --> 00:50:42,210
- And that's the thing
with Windham.
1106
00:50:42,251 --> 00:50:44,420
And like you said,
this was around 2018.
1107
00:50:44,462 --> 00:50:47,131
And behind the scenes,
there was a lot
1108
00:50:47,173 --> 00:50:48,591
going on in Windham's life.
1109
00:50:48,633 --> 00:50:51,511
And a normal person,
with everything
1110
00:50:51,552 --> 00:50:54,639
that he was dealing with,
could have let everything go
1111
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,682
and kind of lost
the grip of it all.
1112
00:50:56,724 --> 00:51:01,312
But he's always been able
to find inspiration
1113
00:51:01,354 --> 00:51:04,190
in places I don't think
anybody else could.
1114
00:51:05,900 --> 00:51:08,486
- As Windham dealt
with the stress,
1115
00:51:08,528 --> 00:51:11,030
he leaned on his friends.
1116
00:51:11,823 --> 00:51:15,284
- We were together four
or five days a week.
1117
00:51:15,326 --> 00:51:16,369
We cried together.
1118
00:51:16,411 --> 00:51:17,453
We laughed together.
1119
00:51:17,495 --> 00:51:19,956
We did everything together.
1120
00:51:19,997 --> 00:51:22,250
The WWE, it's such a family.
1121
00:51:22,291 --> 00:51:23,459
It really is.
1122
00:51:23,501 --> 00:51:24,752
Like, we're all
together so much.
1123
00:51:24,794 --> 00:51:26,379
We're all away from our
families and stuff
1124
00:51:26,421 --> 00:51:29,215
like that--
our real blood families.
1125
00:51:29,257 --> 00:51:31,342
We all have a really cool
relationship.
1126
00:51:34,345 --> 00:51:35,722
- My name is JoJo.
1127
00:51:35,763 --> 00:51:39,517
And originally,
I started off as a wrestler.
1128
00:51:39,559 --> 00:51:44,647
And then I transitioned into
a role of the ring announcer.
1129
00:51:44,689 --> 00:51:47,400
The following
No Holds Barred match
1130
00:51:47,442 --> 00:51:51,362
will begin in Bray Wyatt's
House of Horrors.
1131
00:51:51,404 --> 00:51:53,364
We respected
each other's work.
1132
00:51:53,406 --> 00:51:57,326
And we slowly became really,
really great friends
1133
00:51:57,368 --> 00:51:59,954
through that time.
1134
00:51:59,996 --> 00:52:05,043
And so when we were both
able to, we started dating.
1135
00:52:05,084 --> 00:52:08,337
- I lived with JoJo
when I was in "NXT."
1136
00:52:08,379 --> 00:52:12,175
I never pictured JoJo
and Windham together.
1137
00:52:12,216 --> 00:52:13,509
Not for a single second.
1138
00:52:13,551 --> 00:52:15,636
Like, it never dawned on me.
1139
00:52:15,678 --> 00:52:18,931
But then you see them together
and you're like, oh, yeah.
1140
00:52:18,973 --> 00:52:20,308
Oh, that makes sense.
1141
00:52:20,349 --> 00:52:24,103
They're just these two
beautiful souls.
1142
00:52:24,145 --> 00:52:27,482
- JoJo made Windham happy,
and that's all
1143
00:52:27,523 --> 00:52:29,859
you can ask for is
to be happy in this world,
1144
00:52:29,901 --> 00:52:31,569
you know?
1145
00:52:31,611 --> 00:52:34,864
- It's just that old saying,
you can't fight fate.
1146
00:52:34,906 --> 00:52:37,325
And I think fate was just--
it just took a little while
1147
00:52:37,366 --> 00:52:38,868
for them to find each other.
1148
00:52:38,910 --> 00:52:43,873
- He loved her so much
and she meant the world to him.
1149
00:52:46,876 --> 00:52:48,044
* *
1150
00:52:48,086 --> 00:52:51,714
- In 2019, Windham
and JoJo welcomed
1151
00:52:51,756 --> 00:52:57,512
their first child,
a son, Knash.
1152
00:52:57,553 --> 00:52:59,138
- When we found out
it was a boy--
1153
00:52:59,180 --> 00:53:01,724
He was so happy.
1154
00:53:01,766 --> 00:53:03,851
He goes, "I didn't think
I could have boys.
1155
00:53:03,893 --> 00:53:07,271
I thought I was destined
for girls my whole life."
1156
00:53:07,313 --> 00:53:11,901
- Knash boy is the sweetest
little human
1157
00:53:11,943 --> 00:53:13,152
that I've ever met.
1158
00:53:13,194 --> 00:53:14,529
He looks more like JoJo,
1159
00:53:14,570 --> 00:53:17,532
but he has Windham's
personality.
1160
00:53:17,573 --> 00:53:22,703
- Two years later, they would
welcome a little girl, Hyrie.
1161
00:53:22,745 --> 00:53:23,996
- We got the yin and yang.
1162
00:53:24,038 --> 00:53:26,749
We've got the one that's
Windham, the firstborn.
1163
00:53:26,791 --> 00:53:30,878
And then the second one
is just full of fire.
1164
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,964
- One of the things that I
loved the most about Windham
1165
00:53:33,005 --> 00:53:38,302
in general was how wonderful
a father he always was.
1166
00:53:38,344 --> 00:53:39,971
- Just going over
to their house,
1167
00:53:40,012 --> 00:53:42,682
it was like a scene
out of a movie.
1168
00:53:42,724 --> 00:53:46,477
Just loud and happy always.
1169
00:53:48,813 --> 00:53:52,150
- She changed his life
for the better.
1170
00:53:52,191 --> 00:53:55,278
all: * Happy birthday to you *
1171
00:53:55,319 --> 00:53:56,404
- Yay!
1172
00:53:56,446 --> 00:53:57,572
Time to blow this out.
1173
00:53:57,613 --> 00:53:58,823
- Blow it out.
- Make a wish.
1174
00:54:03,995 --> 00:54:06,706
- Yay!
1175
00:54:06,748 --> 00:54:09,917
- Windham's happiness
inspired his creative side.
1176
00:54:09,959 --> 00:54:13,671
By early 2019,
the idea for a new character
1177
00:54:13,713 --> 00:54:16,466
started to develop.
1178
00:54:16,507 --> 00:54:19,969
- He always joked about how
every time he's had a child,
1179
00:54:20,011 --> 00:54:24,057
it boosted his confidence
to come back even harder.
1180
00:54:24,098 --> 00:54:25,641
So we would be at home.
1181
00:54:25,683 --> 00:54:29,062
And we're laying in bed
and he's like,
1182
00:54:29,103 --> 00:54:31,105
"So I have this idea."
1183
00:54:34,984 --> 00:54:39,655
- Windham's journey took him
to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
1184
00:54:39,697 --> 00:54:41,324
- For years,
Windham was always like,
1185
00:54:41,365 --> 00:54:42,700
"Hey, we got to do something.
1186
00:54:42,742 --> 00:54:43,993
Let's do something.
Let's do something."
1187
00:54:44,035 --> 00:54:45,703
And I'm like, well,
you have my number.
1188
00:54:45,745 --> 00:54:46,954
Call me.
1189
00:54:46,996 --> 00:54:48,498
And then out of the blue
at, like, 2:00 AM,
1190
00:54:48,539 --> 00:54:50,249
I finally got the call
from Windham,
1191
00:54:50,291 --> 00:54:52,168
in classic Windham fashion.
1192
00:54:52,210 --> 00:54:55,671
And he was like, hey, man,
I've been sent home.
1193
00:54:55,713 --> 00:54:57,465
Creative has nothing for me.
1194
00:54:57,507 --> 00:54:58,966
I know what that means.
1195
00:54:59,008 --> 00:55:02,095
I got to do something drastic,
and I need your help.
1196
00:55:02,136 --> 00:55:04,597
* *
1197
00:55:11,104 --> 00:55:13,731
* *
1198
00:55:17,193 --> 00:55:19,987
- In the spring of 2019,
1199
00:55:20,029 --> 00:55:23,282
Windham had an idea
for a new character.
1200
00:55:23,324 --> 00:55:26,035
- I've always been a huge
fan of, like, horror movies.
1201
00:55:26,077 --> 00:55:27,662
So naturally,
the progression was--
1202
00:55:27,703 --> 00:55:29,831
you know, when I started
watching wrestling,
1203
00:55:29,872 --> 00:55:32,333
it was the horror characters
that always caught my eye.
1204
00:55:32,375 --> 00:55:34,627
One of my earliest memories
was Papa Shango
1205
00:55:34,669 --> 00:55:36,629
and The Ultimate Warrior.
1206
00:55:36,671 --> 00:55:38,005
- Well, take a look
at Papa Shango's face.
1207
00:55:38,047 --> 00:55:38,840
He's in a trance.
1208
00:55:38,881 --> 00:55:40,425
He's in another world.
1209
00:55:40,466 --> 00:55:44,178
And the curse is affecting
The Ultimate Warrior.
1210
00:55:44,220 --> 00:55:45,722
- That type of stuff
is the stuff
1211
00:55:45,763 --> 00:55:47,598
that really sticks in my head,
you know?
1212
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,892
I think that wrestling needs
1213
00:55:49,934 --> 00:55:53,604
that kind of dark entity
in it.
1214
00:55:53,646 --> 00:55:55,690
- When we were children,
we weren't hearing
1215
00:55:55,732 --> 00:55:58,317
the stereotypical
bedtime stories.
1216
00:55:58,359 --> 00:56:00,862
We were hearing Stephen King.
1217
00:56:00,903 --> 00:56:03,156
- They needed their daily
update of where my book was
1218
00:56:03,197 --> 00:56:04,407
and what it was doing.
1219
00:56:04,449 --> 00:56:06,367
And they would both come
to the table
1220
00:56:06,409 --> 00:56:11,539
with these, like, characters
all with a Stephen King basis.
1221
00:56:11,581 --> 00:56:15,376
They have that influence.
1222
00:56:15,418 --> 00:56:16,878
I didn't mean to do it,
but I did.
1223
00:56:19,797 --> 00:56:22,425
- We both were huge fans
of horror movies
1224
00:56:22,467 --> 00:56:25,928
and the contrast
between good and evil.
1225
00:56:25,970 --> 00:56:29,932
But not only that, to make
what you would think to be good
1226
00:56:29,974 --> 00:56:33,686
seem evil and what you'd
think to be evil seem good.
1227
00:56:33,728 --> 00:56:37,190
* *
1228
00:56:37,231 --> 00:56:38,274
- So yeah.
1229
00:56:38,316 --> 00:56:40,651
There's a bunch
of our old concept.
1230
00:56:40,693 --> 00:56:42,278
Good thing I'm a hoarder.
1231
00:56:43,446 --> 00:56:44,614
So yeah, man.
1232
00:56:44,655 --> 00:56:45,948
Again, working
with your brother is
1233
00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:47,784
the funnest time I've ever had
1234
00:56:47,825 --> 00:56:49,786
professionally and personally.
1235
00:56:49,827 --> 00:56:51,537
I remember he just called
and he was like, yeah,
1236
00:56:51,579 --> 00:56:53,122
I want to come up
with this idea.
1237
00:56:53,164 --> 00:56:54,373
I want this mask.
1238
00:56:54,415 --> 00:56:55,625
- We both loved wrestling,
1239
00:56:55,666 --> 00:56:58,294
but I was The Rock
and Stone Cold,
1240
00:56:58,336 --> 00:57:01,381
and he was Kane and Undertaker
and Papa Shango.
1241
00:57:01,422 --> 00:57:02,673
You know, anything weird.
1242
00:57:02,715 --> 00:57:06,386
He was always attracted
to that, I think
1243
00:57:06,427 --> 00:57:09,263
because if you look at him,
he looks like a monster.
1244
00:57:09,305 --> 00:57:12,016
But he had the biggest
and best heart.
1245
00:57:12,058 --> 00:57:13,893
- I'm obviously paraphrasing,
but I remember
1246
00:57:13,935 --> 00:57:16,479
he said one time that
the only way to judge darkness
1247
00:57:16,521 --> 00:57:18,314
is through
the absence of light.
1248
00:57:18,356 --> 00:57:20,942
So you know, just doing that
was like this beautiful thing.
1249
00:57:20,983 --> 00:57:23,903
Then he's like, no, let's show
the world if you use something
1250
00:57:23,945 --> 00:57:26,197
that's dark, you can show
the world how beautiful
1251
00:57:26,239 --> 00:57:27,448
it is by contrast.
1252
00:57:34,831 --> 00:57:36,040
- Are we ready, Bray?
1253
00:57:36,082 --> 00:57:37,166
- I'm ready.
1254
00:57:37,208 --> 00:57:38,418
- All right. Let's do it.
1255
00:57:38,459 --> 00:57:43,047
- This new character
needed a new world.
1256
00:57:43,089 --> 00:57:44,841
- And action.
1257
00:57:44,882 --> 00:57:48,678
- This is the Firefly
Fun House.
1258
00:57:50,012 --> 00:57:51,180
- I had the opportunity
to work
1259
00:57:51,222 --> 00:57:54,183
on the first
Firefly Fun Houses.
1260
00:57:54,225 --> 00:57:59,147
The Firefly Fun House only
existed in Bray's mind.
1261
00:57:59,188 --> 00:58:00,732
It was not a real place.
1262
00:58:00,773 --> 00:58:04,152
He would allow us
inside that head.
1263
00:58:04,193 --> 00:58:07,864
And you can accept it
because it was fantasy.
1264
00:58:07,905 --> 00:58:09,991
When you walk in,
you want to just say, really.
1265
00:58:10,032 --> 00:58:10,992
- Really.
1266
00:58:11,033 --> 00:58:12,243
- Then you'll go, really.
- Really.
1267
00:58:12,285 --> 00:58:13,536
- And then look back
at the camera.
1268
00:58:15,204 --> 00:58:17,290
- Shooting the Fun House
was unlike anything
1269
00:58:17,331 --> 00:58:18,583
WWE has done before.
1270
00:58:18,624 --> 00:58:19,834
And that was always
our intention
1271
00:58:19,876 --> 00:58:21,044
was to do something
completely different.
1272
00:58:21,085 --> 00:58:22,378
And in wrestling,
that's tough because
1273
00:58:22,420 --> 00:58:23,963
everybody's done everything
at some point.
1274
00:58:24,005 --> 00:58:24,922
- I'm trying
to make it different.
1275
00:58:24,964 --> 00:58:26,132
- Yeah. Follow the leader.
1276
00:58:26,174 --> 00:58:27,967
Follow the leader.
Follow the leader.
1277
00:58:28,009 --> 00:58:30,803
- I was blown away
by how talented he was.
1278
00:58:30,845 --> 00:58:35,141
See you later! Bye!
1279
00:58:35,183 --> 00:58:37,185
Can I see what that
looks like real quick?
1280
00:58:37,226 --> 00:58:41,814
- Windham's brain is just
like a tornado of ideas.
1281
00:58:41,856 --> 00:58:44,358
- Could it be warped somehow?
1282
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,527
- He has so many different
things he wants to do,
1283
00:58:46,569 --> 00:58:47,945
wants to say.
1284
00:58:47,987 --> 00:58:49,989
And it's just so many
different things at once
1285
00:58:50,031 --> 00:58:52,742
that the hard part is
kind of containing it.
1286
00:58:52,784 --> 00:58:54,911
- What about if I deliver
the line before
1287
00:58:54,952 --> 00:58:56,621
while I'm standing
and then the next thing is
1288
00:58:56,662 --> 00:58:58,206
the music's playing
and it's just
1289
00:58:58,247 --> 00:59:00,333
da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da
at the end?
1290
00:59:00,374 --> 00:59:04,212
- All you have to do is...
- Let me in.
1291
00:59:04,253 --> 00:59:06,672
- His range of interests
were so wide.
1292
00:59:06,714 --> 00:59:08,341
He knew something
about everything
1293
00:59:08,383 --> 00:59:09,967
and he drew inspiration
from everything.
1294
00:59:10,009 --> 00:59:11,469
- Oh.
1295
00:59:11,511 --> 00:59:13,930
And I want to introduce you
to some very special friends
1296
00:59:13,971 --> 00:59:15,890
that I've met along the way.
1297
00:59:17,266 --> 00:59:19,477
- A key component
of Windham's vision
1298
00:59:19,519 --> 00:59:23,606
included multiple puppets that
would enhance his character.
1299
00:59:23,648 --> 00:59:26,901
This is my friend
Huskus the Pig Boy.
1300
00:59:26,943 --> 00:59:29,404
- Join us. Join us.
1301
00:59:29,445 --> 00:59:32,657
- Huskus was obviously
a representation of Bray
1302
00:59:32,698 --> 00:59:35,952
and the stuff that he'd gone
through with his weight.
1303
00:59:35,993 --> 00:59:39,956
The Ramblin' Rabbit was
sort of the personification
1304
00:59:39,997 --> 00:59:41,999
of people's opinion of Bray--
of him rambling
1305
00:59:42,041 --> 00:59:44,043
too much in his promos.
1306
00:59:44,085 --> 00:59:45,670
- Oh, OK.
1307
00:59:45,712 --> 00:59:47,004
Yeah.
1308
00:59:47,046 --> 00:59:49,340
- Mercy was a little bit
of an homage
1309
00:59:49,382 --> 00:59:51,426
to Waylon Mercy,
the character that
1310
00:59:51,467 --> 00:59:54,137
Bray drew so much
influence from.
1311
00:59:54,178 --> 00:59:56,597
Abby was Sister Abigail,
an imaginary sister
1312
00:59:56,639 --> 00:59:59,142
of Bray Wyatt in his story.
1313
00:59:59,183 --> 01:00:01,310
- After several weeks
of preparation,
1314
01:00:01,352 --> 01:00:04,897
the Firefly Fun House
premiered in prime time
1315
01:00:04,939 --> 01:00:07,525
on Monday Night Raw.
1316
01:00:10,903 --> 01:00:13,030
- Did you miss me?
1317
01:00:13,072 --> 01:00:17,076
Oh, how I
have missed you.
1318
01:00:17,118 --> 01:00:18,953
- When I first saw
the Firefly Fun House,
1319
01:00:18,995 --> 01:00:21,956
I remember texting one
of the writers saying,
1320
01:00:21,998 --> 01:00:23,249
this is brilliant.
1321
01:00:23,291 --> 01:00:25,460
- Hi.
1322
01:00:25,501 --> 01:00:27,712
Did you enjoy my little secret?
1323
01:00:27,754 --> 01:00:30,006
- Really enjoyed
the Pee-wee's Playhouse
1324
01:00:30,048 --> 01:00:33,217
take of the Firefly Fun House.
1325
01:00:33,259 --> 01:00:36,304
- Sociopath is
the word of the day.
1326
01:00:36,345 --> 01:00:38,806
Sociopath.
1327
01:00:38,848 --> 01:00:40,850
- He thought of
all that stuff himself.
1328
01:00:40,892 --> 01:00:44,437
Puts himself
in the genius category.
1329
01:00:44,479 --> 01:00:46,147
- Let me in.
1330
01:00:46,189 --> 01:00:49,776
- It was like Mister Rogers
meets Tales from the Crypt.
1331
01:00:52,153 --> 01:00:55,114
- Whenever there was
a Firefly Fun House going on,
1332
01:00:55,156 --> 01:00:58,076
on a screen in the back
as the show is going,
1333
01:00:58,117 --> 01:01:01,204
there would always be a sellout
at one of those monitors
1334
01:01:01,245 --> 01:01:04,415
to see what Bray was going to
do in that Fun House that week.
1335
01:01:04,457 --> 01:01:08,294
- Today, I have something super
serious to talk to you about.
1336
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:17,261
Exercise!
1337
01:01:17,303 --> 01:01:19,889
- For him to be able to pivot
and all of a sudden go,
1338
01:01:19,931 --> 01:01:21,015
hi, welcome to the Fun House.
1339
01:01:21,057 --> 01:01:22,392
We're going to work out.
1340
01:01:22,433 --> 01:01:26,354
He had the charisma that
so many guys don't have.
1341
01:01:26,396 --> 01:01:29,232
- I really appreciated
the Firefly Fun House
1342
01:01:29,273 --> 01:01:31,651
because it was the public eye's
first opportunity
1343
01:01:31,692 --> 01:01:33,277
to see Windham be silly.
1344
01:01:33,319 --> 01:01:34,487
- Yowie-wowie!
1345
01:01:34,529 --> 01:01:36,614
You found me.
1346
01:01:36,656 --> 01:01:39,659
- Knowing Windham, you knew
it was going to go dark.
1347
01:01:39,700 --> 01:01:41,744
- I will always light the way.
1348
01:01:41,786 --> 01:01:46,582
And all you have to do
is let me in.
1349
01:01:46,624 --> 01:01:48,793
- And it was going to be scary.
1350
01:01:48,835 --> 01:01:51,587
- After months of hosting
the bizarre program,
1351
01:01:51,629 --> 01:01:55,508
in the summer of 2019,
Windham would introduce
1352
01:01:55,550 --> 01:01:58,511
the WWE Universe
to his darker side.
1353
01:01:58,553 --> 01:02:00,346
- As tight as it can go.
1354
01:02:00,388 --> 01:02:01,681
That's perfect.
1355
01:02:01,723 --> 01:02:03,891
Let's go make some nightmares.
1356
01:02:03,933 --> 01:02:05,309
- The Fiend.
1357
01:02:07,353 --> 01:02:09,939
- Yowie-wowie!
1358
01:02:09,981 --> 01:02:14,026
- It was a brand-new character
that lived in Bray's head.
1359
01:02:14,068 --> 01:02:17,780
However, it could take over
Bray's body.
1360
01:02:17,822 --> 01:02:20,283
And then The Fiend became real.
1361
01:02:20,324 --> 01:02:22,994
- The dichotomy of this
sadistic character
1362
01:02:23,035 --> 01:02:26,080
in the children's setup,
it was so bizarre,
1363
01:02:26,122 --> 01:02:27,623
and it felt wrong.
1364
01:02:27,665 --> 01:02:29,459
But it was one of those things
you couldn't look away from.
1365
01:02:30,626 --> 01:02:33,171
- Coming up next
here at SummerSlam,
1366
01:02:33,212 --> 01:02:35,923
it is the in-ring debut
of The Fiend.
1367
01:02:35,965 --> 01:02:38,176
It's Finn Bรกlor
versus Bray Wyatt,
1368
01:02:38,217 --> 01:02:41,179
who went through this
bizarre transformation
1369
01:02:41,220 --> 01:02:45,850
in a place called
the Firefly Fun House.
1370
01:02:45,892 --> 01:02:48,019
- He showed up on the day
of SummerSlam,
1371
01:02:48,061 --> 01:02:50,646
and I seen what
the character was.
1372
01:02:50,688 --> 01:02:51,898
I just said, oh, wow.
1373
01:02:51,939 --> 01:02:53,483
This is cool.
1374
01:02:53,524 --> 01:02:55,359
- We're seeing so many
different forms
1375
01:02:55,401 --> 01:02:57,987
of intimidation
from The Fiend.
1376
01:02:58,029 --> 01:03:00,740
- This is just disturbing.
1377
01:03:00,782 --> 01:03:02,658
- The thing about
professional wrestling
1378
01:03:02,700 --> 01:03:04,911
is it's one of the only
forms of entertainment
1379
01:03:04,952 --> 01:03:08,498
where you have to do it
live in front of an audience
1380
01:03:08,539 --> 01:03:11,417
with no CGI,
no camera effects.
1381
01:03:11,459 --> 01:03:14,253
So when The Fiend shows up
in the arena
1382
01:03:14,295 --> 01:03:17,840
and he's literally
a horror movie monster,
1383
01:03:17,882 --> 01:03:20,635
I was like,
this is unbelievable.
1384
01:03:20,676 --> 01:03:21,594
- I love it.
1385
01:03:22,595 --> 01:03:23,554
- That's cool.
1386
01:03:24,931 --> 01:03:25,973
- Awesome.
1387
01:03:26,015 --> 01:03:27,016
Happy for you, brother.
1388
01:03:28,726 --> 01:03:32,814
- The Fiend is
my favorite character
1389
01:03:32,855 --> 01:03:34,565
in WWE, of all time.
1390
01:03:34,607 --> 01:03:39,821
Someone had finally pulled off
a split-personality character.
1391
01:03:39,862 --> 01:03:41,406
- I was like, you genius.
1392
01:03:41,447 --> 01:03:43,783
You just printed $10 million
worth of merchandise overnight.
1393
01:03:45,284 --> 01:03:49,372
- I'm really excited to see
The Fiend, Bray Wyatt.
1394
01:03:49,414 --> 01:03:51,874
- Seeing all these kids
wearing the mask,
1395
01:03:51,916 --> 01:03:55,294
just the way it captivated
the audience, it was awesome.
1396
01:03:56,504 --> 01:03:58,881
- Within months,
The Fiend's popularity
1397
01:03:58,923 --> 01:04:02,885
skyrocketed and had him on
a collision course
1398
01:04:02,927 --> 01:04:06,889
with an old foe, John Cena.
1399
01:04:10,768 --> 01:04:13,104
- WrestleMania was
scheduled to take place
1400
01:04:13,146 --> 01:04:15,690
at Raymond James Stadium
in Tampa
1401
01:04:15,732 --> 01:04:17,275
where the Buccaneers play.
1402
01:04:17,316 --> 01:04:21,154
Due to COVID, we were not
able to have the audience
1403
01:04:21,195 --> 01:04:23,573
and be able to have the show
that we wanted to have
1404
01:04:23,614 --> 01:04:24,866
in front of an audience.
1405
01:04:24,907 --> 01:04:27,785
So we had to take it
to the Performance Center,
1406
01:04:27,827 --> 01:04:30,413
where we had been doing TV.
1407
01:04:30,455 --> 01:04:34,333
And The Fiend
did not lend itself
1408
01:04:34,375 --> 01:04:37,086
to be in an empty arena.
1409
01:04:37,128 --> 01:04:41,716
And we were looking for matches
that were unique.
1410
01:04:41,758 --> 01:04:43,634
We just got to thinking
one day and said,
1411
01:04:43,676 --> 01:04:46,637
why don't we have
a Firefly Fun House match?
1412
01:04:46,679 --> 01:04:50,266
- The story of the Firefly
Fun House goes like this.
1413
01:04:50,308 --> 01:04:52,226
We are sitting
in a conference table
1414
01:04:52,268 --> 01:04:53,561
at the NXT Performance Center.
1415
01:04:53,603 --> 01:04:55,021
Someone opens the door
and says,
1416
01:04:55,063 --> 01:04:57,106
"You have
a Firefly Fun House match
1417
01:04:57,148 --> 01:04:59,233
at WrestleMania
with Bray Wyatt."
1418
01:04:59,275 --> 01:05:01,194
And I said, well, what's
a Firefly Fun House match?
1419
01:05:01,235 --> 01:05:02,195
They said,
"Well, we don't know."
1420
01:05:02,236 --> 01:05:03,738
I said, great.
1421
01:05:06,282 --> 01:05:09,577
This is going to be somethin'.
1422
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,081
I was like, OK,
what story can we tell?
1423
01:05:13,122 --> 01:05:14,499
- There's a world that exists
1424
01:05:14,540 --> 01:05:16,626
beyond the realm
of our comprehension.
1425
01:05:16,667 --> 01:05:19,962
- Like, yo, we can make this
a meta journey.
1426
01:05:20,004 --> 01:05:21,297
So--and the lighting
stays the same.
1427
01:05:21,339 --> 01:05:22,548
And yeah.
- Boom. Boom.
1428
01:05:22,590 --> 01:05:25,009
So basically, this is in
two of the scenes.
1429
01:05:25,051 --> 01:05:27,011
That's in another scene.
That's a scene.
1430
01:05:27,053 --> 01:05:28,638
And then there's a scene
over there.
1431
01:05:28,679 --> 01:05:31,724
- If all I got is rapping,
I'll use it to my advantage,
1432
01:05:31,766 --> 01:05:33,559
'cause I'm like Husky Harris.
1433
01:05:33,601 --> 01:05:35,478
It's a weight
that I can manage.
1434
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,980
Windham immediately channeled
right in, and he got it.
1435
01:05:38,022 --> 01:05:40,149
And he was like, and then we
do this, and then we do this.
1436
01:05:40,191 --> 01:05:43,027
- It's time to rewrite
my own story.
1437
01:05:43,069 --> 01:05:44,779
- No idea was off-limits.
1438
01:05:44,821 --> 01:05:46,239
We start working out.
1439
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:47,573
And I just start working out,
1440
01:05:47,615 --> 01:05:49,158
and we have to stay there
absurdly long.
1441
01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:50,743
Yeah.
1442
01:05:50,785 --> 01:05:52,161
Let me tell you something.
1443
01:05:52,203 --> 01:05:54,747
Any idea
that I relayed to him,
1444
01:05:54,789 --> 01:05:56,541
he could make it better.
1445
01:05:56,582 --> 01:05:59,043
And any idea that he brought
to me, I was willing to do.
1446
01:05:59,085 --> 01:06:00,628
- I need a printout of that.
1447
01:06:00,670 --> 01:06:04,048
And I think yeah, everybody
should have it just
1448
01:06:04,090 --> 01:06:05,633
so you know
where I'm coming from.
1449
01:06:05,675 --> 01:06:09,846
Give it up for John Cena!
1450
01:06:09,887 --> 01:06:11,848
- Watching it back,
you'd think we'd had
1451
01:06:11,889 --> 01:06:13,266
six months to prepare for it.
1452
01:06:13,307 --> 01:06:15,393
But in reality,
it was, like, two days.
1453
01:06:15,435 --> 01:06:17,770
Somehow, it got pulled off.
1454
01:06:17,812 --> 01:06:19,897
- This is going to be spooky.
1455
01:06:19,939 --> 01:06:24,110
- You got to see all of these
different characters
1456
01:06:24,152 --> 01:06:27,029
come to life.
1457
01:06:27,071 --> 01:06:30,575
- It's like a mini-movie.
1458
01:06:30,616 --> 01:06:32,118
- It used to just be
challenging enough
1459
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:33,828
to do something good.
1460
01:06:33,870 --> 01:06:35,037
That's hard.
1461
01:06:35,079 --> 01:06:36,372
But now in the age of content,
1462
01:06:36,414 --> 01:06:38,875
what's harder is
to do something memorable.
1463
01:06:38,916 --> 01:06:40,460
So full credit.
1464
01:06:40,501 --> 01:06:42,378
Because we're still talking
about it, and we still
1465
01:06:42,420 --> 01:06:45,173
will be talking about it
for years to come.
1466
01:06:48,676 --> 01:06:51,471
- Following the success
of that match,
1467
01:06:51,512 --> 01:06:55,641
fans were introduced
to a new Fun House character.
1468
01:06:55,683 --> 01:06:58,227
- He had all these ideas
for me and different ways
1469
01:06:58,269 --> 01:07:00,063
that the character could go.
1470
01:07:00,104 --> 01:07:04,233
Let him in.
1471
01:07:04,275 --> 01:07:07,278
He always had
these off-the-wall ideas
1472
01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:08,654
that once he explained them,
1473
01:07:08,696 --> 01:07:11,491
you're like,
that's freaking genius.
1474
01:07:11,532 --> 01:07:13,451
Do you like my playground?
1475
01:07:16,204 --> 01:07:18,748
He built this for me.
1476
01:07:18,790 --> 01:07:22,377
He taught me to open my mind
more creatively
1477
01:07:22,418 --> 01:07:24,504
and to step my game up.
1478
01:07:24,545 --> 01:07:27,590
And I had a lot of fun.
1479
01:07:27,632 --> 01:07:29,175
It's fun.
1480
01:07:31,219 --> 01:07:32,887
That was the best--
1481
01:07:32,929 --> 01:07:35,098
still is the best--
moments of my career.
1482
01:07:35,139 --> 01:07:36,933
- I think we can do
better than that.
1483
01:07:36,974 --> 01:07:38,601
By you--by we, I mean me.
1484
01:07:41,979 --> 01:07:44,107
- Windham's happiness
behind the scenes
1485
01:07:44,148 --> 01:07:46,025
translated on screen.
1486
01:07:46,067 --> 01:07:50,113
But he was about to experience
a heavy loss.
1487
01:07:50,154 --> 01:07:52,698
* *
1488
01:07:57,161 --> 01:07:59,580
- In December of 2020,
1489
01:07:59,622 --> 01:08:01,791
one of Windham's
closest friends,
1490
01:08:01,833 --> 01:08:07,380
John Huber,
tragically passed away.
1491
01:08:07,422 --> 01:08:09,257
He was 41 years old.
1492
01:08:09,298 --> 01:08:12,510
* *
1493
01:08:12,552 --> 01:08:15,638
I didn't want
to believe it was true.
1494
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:20,810
I don't think my brain let me
do it--let me believe it.
1495
01:08:20,852 --> 01:08:25,273
* *
1496
01:08:25,314 --> 01:08:27,400
I'm struggling.
1497
01:08:27,442 --> 01:08:33,489
* *
1498
01:08:33,531 --> 01:08:38,327
- I know he was hurting a lot.
1499
01:08:38,369 --> 01:08:41,831
Because I know
I was hurting a lot.
1500
01:08:41,873 --> 01:08:44,083
- They were so close.
They were like brothers.
1501
01:08:44,125 --> 01:08:46,878
When you're in a group
together with someone,
1502
01:08:46,919 --> 01:08:49,505
you share so much
of your lives together
1503
01:08:49,547 --> 01:08:52,508
and they talk about their
families and their kids
1504
01:08:52,550 --> 01:08:54,427
and all those things.
1505
01:08:54,469 --> 01:08:57,597
So I know it was
a profound loss for him.
1506
01:08:57,638 --> 01:09:00,016
- I know more than anybody
that no one can fill
1507
01:09:00,058 --> 01:09:04,020
the void that he left behind.
1508
01:09:04,062 --> 01:09:09,275
But I swear to God, I'll try.
1509
01:09:09,317 --> 01:09:11,986
* *
1510
01:09:12,028 --> 01:09:16,616
- He always just carried
the heaviness around.
1511
01:09:16,657 --> 01:09:19,869
And he had a really,
really, really hard time.
1512
01:09:22,246 --> 01:09:24,457
- Windham struggled
1513
01:09:24,499 --> 01:09:28,544
emotionally
and professionally.
1514
01:09:28,586 --> 01:09:33,257
- Bray was a creative genius
for his characters.
1515
01:09:33,299 --> 01:09:36,511
To work with Bray was
very challenging because--
1516
01:09:36,552 --> 01:09:39,472
I don't think that
Bray came from a bad place,
1517
01:09:39,514 --> 01:09:41,391
but Bray had his visions.
1518
01:09:41,432 --> 01:09:46,187
Bray had what he wanted to do
and Bray would fight you on it.
1519
01:09:46,229 --> 01:09:47,230
- You can't put
the sweatband on?
1520
01:09:47,271 --> 01:09:48,314
- No.
1521
01:09:48,356 --> 01:09:49,649
- What's the transition?
1522
01:09:49,690 --> 01:09:51,150
How do I get to the rabbit?
1523
01:09:51,192 --> 01:09:53,069
- I'm grabbing him now anyway.
1524
01:09:53,111 --> 01:09:54,862
- He didn't like when other
people were getting involved
1525
01:09:54,904 --> 01:09:56,572
and telling him what to do
and telling him
1526
01:09:56,614 --> 01:09:58,408
how the character should act
and how he should speak.
1527
01:09:58,449 --> 01:10:01,369
So it took a toll on him.
1528
01:10:01,411 --> 01:10:03,371
- Bray was
a tremendous success.
1529
01:10:03,413 --> 01:10:04,747
But I think he created
something that was
1530
01:10:04,789 --> 01:10:08,084
larger than another
individual's thought process.
1531
01:10:08,126 --> 01:10:10,670
* *
1532
01:10:10,712 --> 01:10:14,298
- While there's a clear line
between Windham and Bray Wyatt
1533
01:10:14,340 --> 01:10:16,592
and The Fiend
and all those things,
1534
01:10:16,634 --> 01:10:19,679
they're all pieces of him
that he put out there.
1535
01:10:19,721 --> 01:10:22,473
Sort of his heart and soul
out on his sleeve.
1536
01:10:22,515 --> 01:10:24,934
He never stopped
thinking about it.
1537
01:10:24,976 --> 01:10:28,104
- There's something
we're missing here.
1538
01:10:28,146 --> 01:10:30,398
- It's one of the geniuses
of him creatively.
1539
01:10:30,440 --> 01:10:32,108
It's also one of
the things that was
1540
01:10:32,150 --> 01:10:34,026
difficult to work with him on
because he was like
1541
01:10:34,068 --> 01:10:36,612
this whirlwind of ideas
at all times.
1542
01:10:36,654 --> 01:10:40,032
Harnessing him into one thing
got harder and harder--
1543
01:10:40,074 --> 01:10:42,410
keeping him focused
on the one idea
1544
01:10:42,452 --> 01:10:45,955
at hand, getting him
to agree to the idea
1545
01:10:45,997 --> 01:10:48,624
that everybody was working on,
and then stay committed to it
1546
01:10:48,666 --> 01:10:50,585
and not, all of a sudden,
show up one day and go,
1547
01:10:50,626 --> 01:10:52,086
"Guys, I think we're going in
the wrong direction.
1548
01:10:52,128 --> 01:10:53,713
We need to start over here."
1549
01:10:58,551 --> 01:11:01,471
- As the tension grew,
the Bray Wyatt character
1550
01:11:01,512 --> 01:11:05,141
was about to undergo
a drastic change.
1551
01:11:05,183 --> 01:11:08,352
- We had an Inferno match.
1552
01:11:08,394 --> 01:11:11,314
I remember seeing
the look on his face
1553
01:11:11,355 --> 01:11:13,941
as he's getting covered
with just all this goop
1554
01:11:13,983 --> 01:11:16,110
to keep him safe.
1555
01:11:16,152 --> 01:11:18,946
That was a stressful day.
1556
01:11:24,368 --> 01:11:25,703
- So frustrated?
1557
01:11:25,745 --> 01:11:27,830
Yes, to put it lightly.
1558
01:11:28,664 --> 01:11:30,666
- The only way to win is
1559
01:11:30,708 --> 01:11:34,003
to light any part of your
opponent on fire.
1560
01:11:36,130 --> 01:11:37,048
- Oh! The Fiend's on fire!
1561
01:11:37,090 --> 01:11:38,466
- Oh, my God! Orton!
1562
01:11:38,508 --> 01:11:41,052
Orton just lit
The Fiend on fire!
1563
01:11:41,094 --> 01:11:43,388
- He got burned.
1564
01:11:43,429 --> 01:11:48,017
That was extremely
frustrating to him.
1565
01:11:48,059 --> 01:11:49,727
- He was very particular
with his story
1566
01:11:49,769 --> 01:11:51,729
from beginning to end.
1567
01:11:51,771 --> 01:11:55,441
You can't pay off something
if it took a turn.
1568
01:11:55,483 --> 01:11:57,026
He didn't know how to do that.
1569
01:11:57,068 --> 01:11:59,779
And I think that was
very frustrating for him.
1570
01:12:07,370 --> 01:12:09,789
- That was the problem
with the burnt Bray.
1571
01:12:09,831 --> 01:12:14,752
Because you had to have
everything on you burnt
1572
01:12:14,794 --> 01:12:18,381
and melted and smoldering.
1573
01:12:18,423 --> 01:12:20,133
No one thought about that.
1574
01:12:20,174 --> 01:12:23,761
- Let me bring this to you back
when I got this shit off of me.
1575
01:12:23,803 --> 01:12:25,304
But we ain't going
to take pictures.
1576
01:12:25,346 --> 01:12:26,931
This is really brutal.
1577
01:12:26,973 --> 01:12:29,475
- All of a sudden now you're
going from wrestling gear
1578
01:12:29,517 --> 01:12:34,480
and a hot mask
to a hot mask and hot gear.
1579
01:12:34,522 --> 01:12:37,066
- I don't know
if I can work like this.
1580
01:12:37,108 --> 01:12:38,568
- It was very difficult
to move in.
1581
01:12:38,609 --> 01:12:39,902
It wasn't as pliable.
1582
01:12:39,944 --> 01:12:43,406
It wasn't as easy to maneuver
and do everything
1583
01:12:43,448 --> 01:12:45,450
that you wanted to do.
1584
01:12:45,491 --> 01:12:47,744
- It moves and turns
when you grab it.
1585
01:12:54,459 --> 01:12:56,294
- Remember this one.
1586
01:12:56,335 --> 01:12:58,254
- Wild looking at this,
1587
01:12:58,296 --> 01:12:59,756
'cause we both know
1588
01:12:59,797 --> 01:13:02,383
what a hard time
he was having at this point.
1589
01:13:02,425 --> 01:13:03,760
You know, like...
1590
01:13:03,801 --> 01:13:06,012
- You're putting it politely.
1591
01:13:06,054 --> 01:13:08,389
He hated this thing.
1592
01:13:08,431 --> 01:13:10,099
Your brother knew
the responsibility.
1593
01:13:10,141 --> 01:13:12,143
I think it weighed a lot
on him, and it was hard.
1594
01:13:12,185 --> 01:13:14,729
And I felt really bad for him
because I know
1595
01:13:14,771 --> 01:13:17,774
he gave it his all,
he tried 100% to try to carry
1596
01:13:17,815 --> 01:13:20,359
you know, not only his
character and the brand
1597
01:13:20,401 --> 01:13:22,695
and the company and everything,
but it just--
1598
01:13:22,737 --> 01:13:24,155
- It all led
to that WrestleMania.
1599
01:13:24,197 --> 01:13:25,615
- Yeah.
1600
01:13:31,204 --> 01:13:33,873
* *
1601
01:13:33,915 --> 01:13:38,961
- WrestleMania 37,
the first time in over a year
1602
01:13:39,003 --> 01:13:41,923
that the WWE fans
would be in attendance.
1603
01:13:41,964 --> 01:13:44,634
- Who are you excited to see?
1604
01:13:44,675 --> 01:13:48,012
- Mostly The Fiend.
1605
01:13:48,054 --> 01:13:50,515
- I'm really excited
to see Bray Wyatt.
1606
01:13:50,556 --> 01:13:52,141
I like his mind games
that he plays.
1607
01:13:52,183 --> 01:13:55,228
- I want to see The Fiend
go on and burn Randy Orton
1608
01:13:55,269 --> 01:13:56,687
down to the ground.
1609
01:13:56,729 --> 01:13:58,981
* *
1610
01:13:59,023 --> 01:14:01,150
- Yeah, at WrestleMania,
when we finally were
1611
01:14:01,192 --> 01:14:03,986
in front of people,
you see the transformation--
1612
01:14:04,028 --> 01:14:08,616
The Fiend is stepping out
of hell and of that burnt.
1613
01:14:08,658 --> 01:14:12,203
And now you have The Fiend
again, and a pissed-off Fiend.
1614
01:14:12,245 --> 01:14:14,705
It was a way to get back
to The Fiend.
1615
01:14:14,747 --> 01:14:18,459
Because the burn--the whole
outfit didn't work,
1616
01:14:18,501 --> 01:14:21,838
and it was tough
to continue that.
1617
01:14:21,879 --> 01:14:24,590
- And The Fiend
has been restored.
1618
01:14:24,632 --> 01:14:27,343
- I think everyone was
just as excited as we were
1619
01:14:27,385 --> 01:14:28,886
to see the Fiend back,
1620
01:14:28,928 --> 01:14:34,517
and it immediately turned into
I turned on him...
1621
01:14:34,559 --> 01:14:35,852
- What the...
1622
01:14:35,893 --> 01:14:37,729
- Causing him
to lose the match.
1623
01:14:37,770 --> 01:14:40,982
- And now Orton
from behind with an RKO!
1624
01:14:41,023 --> 01:14:45,278
- And it wasn't what
people wanted to see.
1625
01:14:45,319 --> 01:14:47,238
- If you love something that
much and you put that much
1626
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:52,243
time and effort, you want it
to go the way your vision is.
1627
01:14:52,285 --> 01:14:54,912
And that was, like,
very frustrating for him.
1628
01:14:57,415 --> 01:15:02,045
- At the time, I don't know
exactly what the downfall was.
1629
01:15:02,086 --> 01:15:06,132
Creative minds can often be
misinterpreted very easily.
1630
01:15:06,174 --> 01:15:09,802
So you can begin
to have disagreements
1631
01:15:09,844 --> 01:15:11,929
of how things go,
but it can be interpreted
1632
01:15:11,971 --> 01:15:14,807
in many different ways--
as creative differences
1633
01:15:14,849 --> 01:15:17,393
or he's just difficult
to work with.
1634
01:15:17,435 --> 01:15:18,978
I don't know the exact answer.
1635
01:15:19,020 --> 01:15:21,731
I just know that
it fell apart somehow.
1636
01:15:21,773 --> 01:15:23,316
* *
1637
01:15:23,357 --> 01:15:25,902
- At that time,
WWE was still dealing with
1638
01:15:25,943 --> 01:15:27,403
the fallout of the pandemic.
1639
01:15:27,445 --> 01:15:30,156
And they released
a bunch of superstars,
1640
01:15:30,198 --> 01:15:32,742
one of them being
Windham's brother, Taylor.
1641
01:15:32,784 --> 01:15:34,327
And then a few months later,
1642
01:15:34,368 --> 01:15:38,331
they ended up releasing
Windham as well.
1643
01:15:38,372 --> 01:15:41,334
You just kept clicking, trying
to find the thing that goes,
1644
01:15:41,375 --> 01:15:42,543
no, that was fake.
1645
01:15:42,585 --> 01:15:43,628
That's not true.
1646
01:15:43,669 --> 01:15:44,796
No, of course it's not true.
1647
01:15:44,837 --> 01:15:47,256
- We all were shocked.
1648
01:15:47,298 --> 01:15:51,094
In retrospect, I can look back
and I can look at pictures
1649
01:15:51,135 --> 01:15:54,430
and I'll zoom in on his eyes
and I see it destroyed him.
1650
01:15:54,472 --> 01:15:57,767
That was bad.
1651
01:15:58,810 --> 01:16:02,939
- Aside from being invested in
his family and his children,
1652
01:16:02,980 --> 01:16:05,942
wrestling was his life
and that was his art
1653
01:16:05,983 --> 01:16:07,860
and that was his outlet.
1654
01:16:07,902 --> 01:16:11,239
And all of a sudden,
instantaneously was--
1655
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:14,492
that's supposed
to be just gone?
1656
01:16:14,534 --> 01:16:17,120
- For the first time
in over a decade,
1657
01:16:17,161 --> 01:16:20,206
Windham was not part of WWE.
1658
01:16:24,001 --> 01:16:29,424
In its place,
he found a new passion.
1659
01:16:29,465 --> 01:16:31,134
- So we're here in our home.
1660
01:16:31,175 --> 01:16:35,471
And this room, in particular,
was Windham's art room.
1661
01:16:35,513 --> 01:16:39,767
It was his space where
he created a lot of his magic.
1662
01:16:39,809 --> 01:16:43,813
And it has been untouched
since he's been here.
1663
01:16:43,855 --> 01:16:45,481
So this is it.
1664
01:16:45,523 --> 01:16:48,317
This is the mind of Windham.
1665
01:16:48,359 --> 01:16:52,321
The first piece he did,
and it's of me.
1666
01:16:53,656 --> 01:16:54,991
So it's one of the first pieces
1667
01:16:55,032 --> 01:16:56,492
he actually completed.
1668
01:16:56,534 --> 01:16:58,494
And it's spray paint.
1669
01:16:59,704 --> 01:17:00,872
This one right here,
1670
01:17:00,913 --> 01:17:02,915
it's Kendyl and Cadyn.
1671
01:17:02,957 --> 01:17:04,459
He wanted to recreate
the picture that he had
1672
01:17:04,500 --> 01:17:06,335
in his phone of his girls.
1673
01:17:06,377 --> 01:17:08,254
And it's a beautiful picture
of them standing
1674
01:17:08,296 --> 01:17:09,881
like that in the street.
1675
01:17:09,922 --> 01:17:15,178
He was in the middle of doing
this as a gift for them.
1676
01:17:15,219 --> 01:17:18,806
I don't know if he ever
truly felt like
1677
01:17:18,848 --> 01:17:20,516
anything was quite finished.
1678
01:17:21,893 --> 01:17:23,728
He did this over a course
of two years.
1679
01:17:23,770 --> 01:17:25,021
He kept working on this--
1680
01:17:25,063 --> 01:17:26,773
stopping, starting over.
1681
01:17:26,814 --> 01:17:28,232
But he always kept that part,
1682
01:17:28,274 --> 01:17:30,026
which I thought was
really cool.
1683
01:17:30,068 --> 01:17:32,570
And he kept it because
I told him how much I loved it.
1684
01:17:32,612 --> 01:17:34,864
I was like, oh, I love
those eyes, the face.
1685
01:17:34,906 --> 01:17:36,449
I said,
you did so good with that.
1686
01:17:36,491 --> 01:17:37,909
And he always kept it,
1687
01:17:37,950 --> 01:17:40,369
which I thought was
really cool.
1688
01:17:40,411 --> 01:17:43,206
This one hung in our home
in St. Pete.
1689
01:17:43,247 --> 01:17:47,752
And it reminds me a lot
of when we got engaged.
1690
01:17:47,794 --> 01:17:53,049
He surprised me by getting down
on one knee in St. Pete Pier.
1691
01:17:53,091 --> 01:17:55,676
So this art really ties in.
1692
01:17:55,718 --> 01:17:59,389
They're pieces that I won't
let go of ever in my life
1693
01:17:59,430 --> 01:18:01,933
because it reminds me
of that time.
1694
01:18:01,974 --> 01:18:03,726
* *
1695
01:18:03,768 --> 01:18:08,314
- 100% art is where he really
just threw himself into that,
1696
01:18:08,356 --> 01:18:09,607
and he loved it.
1697
01:18:09,649 --> 01:18:11,484
Just always, oh, come do
this with me and let me
1698
01:18:11,526 --> 01:18:15,029
show you this latest thing
I'm trying out.
1699
01:18:15,071 --> 01:18:16,906
- Next thing you know,
he would be showing us
1700
01:18:16,948 --> 01:18:18,324
these paintings.
1701
01:18:18,366 --> 01:18:19,992
Then we're like, you did that?
1702
01:18:20,034 --> 01:18:21,661
I cannot believe you did that.
1703
01:18:21,702 --> 01:18:23,663
He's like, I've been working on
this for three nights in a row.
1704
01:18:23,704 --> 01:18:26,582
Go to sleep.
1705
01:18:26,624 --> 01:18:29,001
It was amazing
to see, once again,
1706
01:18:29,043 --> 01:18:30,294
this anomaly of a human.
1707
01:18:30,336 --> 01:18:31,587
When he invested
into something
1708
01:18:31,629 --> 01:18:32,755
that he was going to do,
1709
01:18:32,797 --> 01:18:34,799
it was going to be phenomenal.
1710
01:18:39,178 --> 01:18:42,140
- While he immersed himself
in his art,
1711
01:18:42,181 --> 01:18:45,059
Windham also started filming
a reality TV pilot
1712
01:18:45,101 --> 01:18:46,477
with his brother.
1713
01:18:46,519 --> 01:18:50,273
* *
1714
01:18:52,442 --> 01:18:55,695
Can I touch it?
- Yeah. Yeah.
1715
01:18:55,737 --> 01:18:58,656
- We got the opportunity
to go shoot a pilot
1716
01:18:58,698 --> 01:19:00,575
hunting monsters and cryptids
1717
01:19:00,616 --> 01:19:03,369
and conspiracy theories
and going after cults.
1718
01:19:03,411 --> 01:19:05,997
- I can't believe
we're in here, man.
1719
01:19:06,038 --> 01:19:07,331
- Our whole lives,
we've always been into
1720
01:19:07,373 --> 01:19:09,208
the odd things in the world.
1721
01:19:09,250 --> 01:19:11,002
- When I was a little kid,
when you watched, like,
1722
01:19:11,044 --> 01:19:12,420
"The Goonies"
and all that stuff,
1723
01:19:12,462 --> 01:19:14,797
I remember thinking,
oh, man, that's so cool.
1724
01:19:14,839 --> 01:19:16,841
I would love to just go around
with my friends one day
1725
01:19:16,883 --> 01:19:18,134
and do that.
1726
01:19:18,176 --> 01:19:22,388
So this is how
horror movies end.
1727
01:19:22,430 --> 01:19:25,892
- The more we hung out
and started working on that,
1728
01:19:25,933 --> 01:19:27,143
the more it kind of morphed
1729
01:19:27,185 --> 01:19:29,729
back into talking
about wrestling.
1730
01:19:29,771 --> 01:19:32,315
- I dive in and I think
about it to the point
1731
01:19:32,356 --> 01:19:34,192
where it almost makes me nuts.
1732
01:19:34,233 --> 01:19:37,153
- We got excited again
and realized maybe
1733
01:19:37,195 --> 01:19:38,488
we don't want to do this.
1734
01:19:38,529 --> 01:19:40,656
Maybe we want to go
back and wrestle.
1735
01:19:40,698 --> 01:19:42,992
The more we talked,
the more we collaborated,
1736
01:19:43,034 --> 01:19:45,912
the more we needed
to make it back.
1737
01:19:45,953 --> 01:19:50,374
- In the summer of 2022,
after a year away from WWE,
1738
01:19:50,416 --> 01:19:54,587
Windham started talking about
making a return to the ring.
1739
01:19:54,629 --> 01:20:01,094
- There is not a lock
on the door to the WWE.
1740
01:20:01,135 --> 01:20:06,474
And I think the audience was
craving some Bray Wyatt.
1741
01:20:06,516 --> 01:20:10,353
- From the first time I got on
the phone with him to discuss,
1742
01:20:10,395 --> 01:20:12,480
do you want to come back--
1743
01:20:12,522 --> 01:20:15,066
like, hey, I'd love
for you to come home.
1744
01:20:15,108 --> 01:20:17,360
And his part,
hey, I'd love to be home.
1745
01:20:17,402 --> 01:20:20,113
I think that very first
conversation we had,
1746
01:20:20,154 --> 01:20:23,241
it went from, hey,
what are you thinking
1747
01:20:23,282 --> 01:20:25,410
about potentially coming back
1748
01:20:25,451 --> 01:20:29,038
to us riffing ideas
for an hour and a half.
1749
01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:30,331
- He wasn't done.
1750
01:20:30,373 --> 01:20:32,250
He wanted to fix things
about his legacy
1751
01:20:32,291 --> 01:20:34,252
and he didn't want
to go out unexpectedly.
1752
01:20:34,293 --> 01:20:38,715
He had a lot more stories
to tell the WWE Universe.
1753
01:20:38,756 --> 01:20:40,174
- He was in the gym a lot.
1754
01:20:40,216 --> 01:20:42,176
Like, three, four hours a day.
1755
01:20:42,218 --> 01:20:44,929
He really busted his ass.
1756
01:20:44,971 --> 01:20:50,393
- In the fall of 2022,
Windham, now 35 years old,
1757
01:20:50,435 --> 01:20:53,688
was preparing for his return.
1758
01:20:53,730 --> 01:20:55,565
- He was coming back.
1759
01:20:55,606 --> 01:20:56,774
He was working for it.
1760
01:20:59,235 --> 01:21:01,738
- So when Windham was
negotiating with WWE
1761
01:21:01,779 --> 01:21:03,406
to make his return,
1762
01:21:03,448 --> 01:21:07,660
he reached out to TJ
and asked TJ,
1763
01:21:07,702 --> 01:21:09,537
hey, I need you
to keep this to yourself,
1764
01:21:09,579 --> 01:21:12,081
but would you and Natty
be OK if I started
1765
01:21:12,123 --> 01:21:14,417
coming down to your ring?
1766
01:21:14,459 --> 01:21:16,586
- Bray was super motivated
at that time.
1767
01:21:16,627 --> 01:21:19,213
I did want to gauge
where he was mentally.
1768
01:21:19,255 --> 01:21:20,381
And he said, TJ, I know.
1769
01:21:20,423 --> 01:21:22,550
He said, I'm super excited.
1770
01:21:22,592 --> 01:21:26,137
And he went from it being
kind of a private thing to him
1771
01:21:26,179 --> 01:21:28,306
going around and giving
each person specific,
1772
01:21:28,347 --> 01:21:30,141
individualized advice.
1773
01:21:30,183 --> 01:21:32,143
That just shows you
how his brain was working
1774
01:21:32,185 --> 01:21:34,353
from a creative standpoint.
1775
01:21:34,395 --> 01:21:35,646
- You could just feel
that excitement.
1776
01:21:35,688 --> 01:21:37,648
You felt, like,
that childlike wonder.
1777
01:21:37,690 --> 01:21:40,026
He really wanted to get in
the best shape of his life
1778
01:21:40,068 --> 01:21:42,487
and he wanted this
to be his best run ever.
1779
01:21:42,528 --> 01:21:45,823
- He started talking to me
about what my ideas were
1780
01:21:45,865 --> 01:21:47,200
and if I should go back.
1781
01:21:47,241 --> 01:21:50,870
And I decided I was going
to pursue a conversation
1782
01:21:50,912 --> 01:21:54,415
with the company again
to see where I would stand
1783
01:21:54,457 --> 01:21:57,460
and started getting
excited again
1784
01:21:57,502 --> 01:22:01,172
like it was my first time
getting into the ring again.
1785
01:22:01,214 --> 01:22:04,926
- About the same time
I brought into the company
1786
01:22:04,967 --> 01:22:07,387
a guy named Rob Fee.
1787
01:22:07,428 --> 01:22:09,889
- I met with Hunter and Bray.
1788
01:22:09,931 --> 01:22:12,600
If I would ask him
a question and be like, hey,
1789
01:22:12,642 --> 01:22:15,103
what do you think about this
thing, an hour and a half
1790
01:22:15,144 --> 01:22:17,855
later of completely
off-the-wall ideas,
1791
01:22:17,897 --> 01:22:19,649
we'd land on something.
1792
01:22:19,690 --> 01:22:23,027
And I'm like, man, if he's
bringing this energy back
1793
01:22:23,069 --> 01:22:27,490
to WWE, it's going to be
a wild ride.
1794
01:22:27,532 --> 01:22:31,160
- It sort of started this kind
of three-way collaboration
1795
01:22:31,202 --> 01:22:33,121
on this project.
1796
01:22:33,162 --> 01:22:35,873
And Bray would
call us both and say,
1797
01:22:35,915 --> 01:22:38,084
hey, I have this idea.
1798
01:22:45,216 --> 01:22:51,723
* *
1799
01:22:51,764 --> 01:22:52,849
- Who...
- Killed...
1800
01:22:52,890 --> 01:22:55,309
- The...
- World?
1801
01:22:56,310 --> 01:22:58,938
- You...
- Did.
1802
01:22:58,980 --> 01:23:04,026
- We started coming up with
all these crazy, Easter-eggy--
1803
01:23:04,068 --> 01:23:09,365
like, how could we riff these
ideas to lead to this return?
1804
01:23:09,407 --> 01:23:11,617
That was me, Bray.
1805
01:23:11,659 --> 01:23:15,413
And Rob was
really instrumental.
1806
01:23:15,455 --> 01:23:20,543
- It was Bray coming up with
crazy bits of lore.
1807
01:23:20,585 --> 01:23:23,046
Then he'd be like, here,
make this into something.
1808
01:23:23,087 --> 01:23:28,676
- Friday Night SmackDown!
1809
01:23:28,718 --> 01:23:31,763
- Brought up
the first QR code.
1810
01:23:31,804 --> 01:23:35,058
It led to a puzzle.
1811
01:23:35,099 --> 01:23:36,392
I believe viewership was up
1812
01:23:36,434 --> 01:23:39,145
25% because people were
1813
01:23:39,187 --> 01:23:42,523
so excited to see
what this was leading to.
1814
01:23:42,565 --> 01:23:45,735
- The White Rabbit teases
are all that
1815
01:23:45,777 --> 01:23:48,279
any wrestling fan wants
to talk about.
1816
01:23:48,321 --> 01:23:51,657
It was so vague
and complicated that
1817
01:23:51,699 --> 01:23:57,413
it allowed us to just speculate
wildly for weeks at a time.
1818
01:23:57,455 --> 01:23:59,499
- We did rabbits in the crowd.
1819
01:23:59,540 --> 01:24:02,460
We had latitude and longitudes
1820
01:24:02,502 --> 01:24:04,462
in Italy that if you
1821
01:24:04,504 --> 01:24:05,463
viewed it from overhead,
1822
01:24:05,505 --> 01:24:07,924
was this giant pink bunny.
1823
01:24:07,965 --> 01:24:10,885
All the clues were just enough
to where it felt like
1824
01:24:10,927 --> 01:24:14,180
a Bray thing,
but it wasn't for sure.
1825
01:24:14,222 --> 01:24:17,392
The final one we did,
fire shoots out
1826
01:24:17,433 --> 01:24:19,852
and it brings up the date
of Extreme Rules.
1827
01:24:19,894 --> 01:24:22,355
'Cause we were like,
at this point, you know,
1828
01:24:22,397 --> 01:24:24,357
let's stop with them
and just show them
1829
01:24:24,399 --> 01:24:26,317
exactly what it is.
1830
01:24:28,111 --> 01:24:32,281
- October 8, 2022.
1831
01:24:32,323 --> 01:24:36,285
The day had finally arrived.
1832
01:24:36,327 --> 01:24:43,251
After 15 months,
Windham was home.
1833
01:24:43,292 --> 01:24:45,420
- I didn't know I could draw
a year ago.
1834
01:24:45,461 --> 01:24:47,296
You want to see something cool?
1835
01:24:47,338 --> 01:24:49,048
I was really proud of this.
1836
01:24:49,090 --> 01:24:52,385
It's the first time
I ever did this by myself.
1837
01:24:52,427 --> 01:24:54,971
This is the concept art.
1838
01:24:55,012 --> 01:24:57,640
Sitting at home for a year
by yourself and painting
1839
01:24:57,682 --> 01:25:00,393
and kind of, you know,
thinking about these things
1840
01:25:00,435 --> 01:25:02,645
and designing all these ideas
1841
01:25:02,687 --> 01:25:05,314
that I'm dreaming of--one day,
maybe we can get a chance
1842
01:25:05,356 --> 01:25:06,941
to do this stuff--
1843
01:25:06,983 --> 01:25:11,904
it's such a cool feeling
to be on the cusp of it.
1844
01:25:11,946 --> 01:25:14,490
This is always the most
exciting part for me,
1845
01:25:14,532 --> 01:25:16,951
this joy you get from creating.
1846
01:25:16,993 --> 01:25:19,996
And you're stressing me out
hovering over me
1847
01:25:20,037 --> 01:25:21,164
now that I'm doing it.
1848
01:25:21,205 --> 01:25:24,125
This is how I keep calm
1849
01:25:24,167 --> 01:25:26,919
kind of in
stressful situations.
1850
01:25:28,463 --> 01:25:31,215
- He was nervous, for sure.
1851
01:25:31,257 --> 01:25:33,342
I was not there
for Extreme Rules.
1852
01:25:33,384 --> 01:25:35,178
But I remember
he would call me
1853
01:25:35,219 --> 01:25:36,846
and he'd just be like, ugh.
1854
01:25:36,888 --> 01:25:40,933
He'd pace back
and forth constantly.
1855
01:25:40,975 --> 01:25:41,934
He was like, I can't.
1856
01:25:41,976 --> 01:25:43,019
I just can't right now.
1857
01:25:43,061 --> 01:25:44,187
And I'm like, OK.
1858
01:25:44,228 --> 01:25:47,982
But just to make sure
that it was
1859
01:25:48,024 --> 01:25:50,693
done the way
he wanted it to be done
1860
01:25:50,735 --> 01:25:53,321
was so much pressure on him
that it made him nervous.
1861
01:25:53,362 --> 01:25:55,990
He's like,
I got to do this right.
1862
01:25:56,032 --> 01:25:57,492
- I always think, oh, no,
1863
01:25:57,533 --> 01:25:58,868
so this person is not
going to like this.
1864
01:25:58,910 --> 01:26:01,662
This person is not
going to like that.
1865
01:26:05,458 --> 01:26:12,382
- 15,944 WWE fans
are here tonight.
1866
01:26:12,423 --> 01:26:16,469
We are sold out
for Extreme Rules.
1867
01:26:16,511 --> 01:26:18,179
- I remember Hunter came
on the bus and was like,
1868
01:26:18,221 --> 01:26:19,931
we just think it'd be
kind of cool to just
1869
01:26:19,972 --> 01:26:22,392
show your characters
just sort of invaded back
1870
01:26:22,433 --> 01:26:23,893
into the world of WWE.
1871
01:26:23,935 --> 01:26:26,354
And we're like, yeah,
sounds like a plan.
1872
01:26:26,396 --> 01:26:28,815
Bruce and Hunter are like,
we want The Fiend, as well.
1873
01:26:28,856 --> 01:26:31,442
We were just going to grab
a random extra or somebody.
1874
01:26:31,484 --> 01:26:32,860
And Windham goes, "No.
1875
01:26:32,902 --> 01:26:35,071
"Jason, you're
the only person I trust
1876
01:26:35,113 --> 01:26:37,990
and you're the only person
that deserves to do it."
1877
01:26:38,032 --> 01:26:40,284
- You got this, man.
1878
01:26:41,911 --> 01:26:45,206
- The honor is definitely
not lost on me.
1879
01:26:45,248 --> 01:26:48,626
- You only get this a couple
times in your life, you know?
1880
01:26:48,668 --> 01:26:51,295
The feeling of pure bliss,
you know?
1881
01:26:51,337 --> 01:26:52,380
The nerves.
1882
01:26:52,422 --> 01:26:54,340
The bliss.
1883
01:26:54,382 --> 01:26:55,967
It's pretty wild, man.
1884
01:27:02,807 --> 01:27:05,101
I want to show everybody
what all the hard work is,
1885
01:27:05,143 --> 01:27:06,561
you know?
1886
01:27:06,602 --> 01:27:08,813
It's time, bro.
1887
01:27:09,605 --> 01:27:13,276
- Windham emerged
just 15 minutes before
1888
01:27:13,317 --> 01:27:15,945
his long-awaited return.
1889
01:27:19,949 --> 01:27:22,368
- They knew something was
going to happen on the show.
1890
01:27:22,410 --> 01:27:25,246
And this was after
the main event.
1891
01:27:25,288 --> 01:27:27,123
So you know, they're like,
did we miss something?
1892
01:27:27,165 --> 01:27:28,458
Was it wrong?
1893
01:27:28,499 --> 01:27:30,084
The logo comes up
at the bottom.
1894
01:27:30,126 --> 01:27:31,669
You think the show's over.
1895
01:27:37,633 --> 01:27:40,720
- Corey, are we still
on the air?
1896
01:27:41,345 --> 01:27:45,183
- * He's got the whole world *
1897
01:27:47,101 --> 01:27:49,312
* In his hands *
1898
01:27:50,480 --> 01:27:53,149
- God, what the--
1899
01:27:53,191 --> 01:27:58,321
- * He's got
the whole wide world *
1900
01:27:58,362 --> 01:28:01,407
* In his hands *
1901
01:28:01,449 --> 01:28:03,785
* *
1902
01:28:03,826 --> 01:28:06,954
* He's got the whole world *
1903
01:28:06,996 --> 01:28:12,543
* In his hands *
1904
01:28:12,585 --> 01:28:16,923
* He's got the whole world *
1905
01:28:19,634 --> 01:28:21,719
* *
1906
01:28:29,602 --> 01:28:33,147
all: Holy shit!
Holy shit! Holy shit!
1907
01:28:33,189 --> 01:28:37,193
Holy shit! Holy shit!
1908
01:28:52,667 --> 01:28:54,210
- I don't think
I've ever experienced
1909
01:28:54,252 --> 01:28:56,212
a sensation quite like that.
1910
01:28:56,254 --> 01:28:58,256
I felt like I was just
hovering out there--
1911
01:28:58,297 --> 01:28:59,882
like I wasn't walking.
1912
01:28:59,924 --> 01:29:02,969
I've never felt
anything like it.
1913
01:29:03,010 --> 01:29:05,847
Bro, I seriously--like,
I'm on edge right now.
1914
01:29:05,888 --> 01:29:09,475
I feel like I was just almost
in a car wreck, you know?
1915
01:29:09,517 --> 01:29:11,060
Holy shit.
1916
01:29:11,102 --> 01:29:13,688
- It literally blew the effing
roof off the place.
1917
01:29:13,730 --> 01:29:15,273
And I was like, holy cow.
1918
01:29:15,314 --> 01:29:17,734
It was a sight for sore eyes.
1919
01:29:19,485 --> 01:29:21,863
- We're going to make this way
bigger than it's ever been,
1920
01:29:21,904 --> 01:29:23,990
all right?
- I'm down.
1921
01:29:24,031 --> 01:29:26,576
- When you talk about blowing
the roof off of a place--
1922
01:29:26,617 --> 01:29:29,287
they may still be trying
to put it back on.
1923
01:29:29,328 --> 01:29:32,415
It was an explosion
when Bray returned.
1924
01:29:32,457 --> 01:29:33,833
They knew.
1925
01:29:33,875 --> 01:29:36,961
They wanted it,
then they got it.
1926
01:29:37,003 --> 01:29:38,504
* *
1927
01:29:38,546 --> 01:29:40,923
- Not everybody gets to spend
their 40th birthday
1928
01:29:40,965 --> 01:29:42,925
dressing up
as their best friend
1929
01:29:42,967 --> 01:29:44,552
and helping them
come back to their job.
1930
01:29:44,594 --> 01:29:49,307
* *
1931
01:29:49,348 --> 01:29:51,434
- Biggest thing in wrestling
in a very, very long time.
1932
01:29:51,476 --> 01:29:52,560
- Yeah.
1933
01:29:52,602 --> 01:29:54,228
I've never heard anything
1934
01:29:54,270 --> 01:29:56,522
that loud in my life.
1935
01:29:56,564 --> 01:29:57,774
It was insane.
1936
01:29:57,815 --> 01:30:00,276
- It was so cool.
It's just wild.
1937
01:30:00,318 --> 01:30:05,948
And just seeing this jacket
and his re-debut, coming back.
1938
01:30:05,990 --> 01:30:11,287
And he sparked a fire
under me like I never felt.
1939
01:30:11,329 --> 01:30:13,748
And it was all him.
1940
01:30:13,790 --> 01:30:15,458
- Part of professional
wrestling is
1941
01:30:15,500 --> 01:30:16,709
the theater of the mind.
1942
01:30:16,751 --> 01:30:19,253
It's to take you away
from reality.
1943
01:30:19,295 --> 01:30:21,297
And when you have a character
that you look forward
1944
01:30:21,339 --> 01:30:23,257
to seeing each week
and then they're gone,
1945
01:30:23,299 --> 01:30:25,176
you can't wait
to have that back.
1946
01:30:25,218 --> 01:30:28,054
There was something about him
that made people feel better.
1947
01:30:28,096 --> 01:30:31,432
And people missed
seeing that on TV.
1948
01:30:42,026 --> 01:30:43,778
I don't know if y'all
can read this on me,
1949
01:30:43,820 --> 01:30:47,156
but I am incredibly grateful.
1950
01:30:47,198 --> 01:30:50,118
And I'm really, really
nervous to be here.
1951
01:30:50,159 --> 01:30:52,036
I never thought that
this would happen.
1952
01:30:58,710 --> 01:31:01,295
This right here,
this is just me, OK?
1953
01:31:01,337 --> 01:31:04,006
This is a version of me
that I've never
1954
01:31:04,048 --> 01:31:06,801
got to introduce
to you guys before.
1955
01:31:06,843 --> 01:31:09,345
This is just me being me--
1956
01:31:09,387 --> 01:31:11,973
genuine me--for the first time.
1957
01:31:15,059 --> 01:31:16,936
- I felt like people were
just so grateful for him
1958
01:31:16,978 --> 01:31:18,271
and grateful to have him back.
1959
01:31:18,312 --> 01:31:21,023
And then that promo where
he was just kind of raw
1960
01:31:21,065 --> 01:31:25,486
and spoke more as Windham was
so unique and so different.
1961
01:31:25,528 --> 01:31:29,240
- I can sit here right now
today and I can look all of you
1962
01:31:29,282 --> 01:31:32,452
in the eyes and I can say
that you were there
1963
01:31:32,493 --> 01:31:36,372
when I was weak, when I was
vulnerable, when I was down.
1964
01:31:36,414 --> 01:31:39,333
So I just wanted
to say thank you.
1965
01:31:39,375 --> 01:31:42,670
You all saved my life.
1966
01:31:44,589 --> 01:31:46,049
- That's my favorite
Bray Wyatt promo.
1967
01:31:46,090 --> 01:31:48,176
Because not only do
they already love him
1968
01:31:48,217 --> 01:31:50,094
for his commitment
and for everything he's done
1969
01:31:50,136 --> 01:31:51,929
and for the rides
he's taken them on
1970
01:31:51,971 --> 01:31:54,724
with these different
characters all these years,
1971
01:31:54,766 --> 01:31:56,434
now they get to see
a window into him
1972
01:31:56,476 --> 01:31:58,936
as the actual person.
1973
01:31:58,978 --> 01:32:01,230
When he did that promo, I was
like, oh, now we're cooking.
1974
01:32:12,033 --> 01:32:15,286
- He forgot how much
he meant to people.
1975
01:32:15,328 --> 01:32:18,873
When he got reminded of that
is what I loved.
1976
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:23,836
- If I didn't have
such passionate fans,
1977
01:32:23,878 --> 01:32:24,962
I wouldn't be here.
1978
01:32:25,004 --> 01:32:26,547
I really wouldn't.
1979
01:32:26,589 --> 01:32:28,716
- What's the best part
about being a wrestler?
1980
01:32:28,758 --> 01:32:30,927
- The best part is--
1981
01:32:30,968 --> 01:32:32,762
you know,
this may sound corny,
1982
01:32:32,804 --> 01:32:35,348
but it's the truth--
is the fans.
1983
01:32:35,390 --> 01:32:38,935
To have fans that are
so into what I do,
1984
01:32:38,976 --> 01:32:40,853
it feels like it's part
of their life too.
1985
01:32:40,895 --> 01:32:43,689
Oh, my God.
1986
01:32:43,731 --> 01:32:46,109
- Are you trying to scare me?
1987
01:32:46,150 --> 01:32:48,569
It's them that led me
back here.
1988
01:32:48,611 --> 01:32:50,571
This is the best
I've ever felt.
1989
01:32:50,613 --> 01:32:53,908
* *
1990
01:32:53,950 --> 01:32:56,661
- He felt like he was
getting a second chance,
1991
01:32:56,702 --> 01:32:58,871
and he had a lot
more perspective
1992
01:32:58,913 --> 01:33:00,957
on what that could be.
1993
01:33:00,998 --> 01:33:05,253
And so he was excited
to bring as much of himself
1994
01:33:05,294 --> 01:33:07,422
into that character.
1995
01:33:07,463 --> 01:33:13,344
- Bray wanted to take
the audience on a journey.
1996
01:33:13,386 --> 01:33:14,387
Here I am.
1997
01:33:14,429 --> 01:33:16,305
I'm Windham Rotunda.
1998
01:33:16,347 --> 01:33:19,809
I'm just a regular guy
just like you.
1999
01:33:19,851 --> 01:33:21,352
But yet, I'm different.
2000
01:33:23,104 --> 01:33:27,734
- My emotions, they don't work
like most other people's.
2001
01:33:27,775 --> 01:33:29,360
I don't have control.
2002
01:33:29,402 --> 01:33:34,866
And sometimes, they can send me
to a very, very dark place.
2003
01:33:34,907 --> 01:33:37,618
- Bray Wyatt once had
a family.
2004
01:33:37,660 --> 01:33:40,621
The Fiend had his Fun House.
2005
01:33:40,663 --> 01:33:46,252
But this time,
Windham needed someone else--
2006
01:33:46,294 --> 01:33:49,088
his brother.
2007
01:33:49,130 --> 01:33:51,340
- We wanted to use Taylor
all along.
2008
01:33:51,382 --> 01:33:54,343
And I thought it was
a pretty cool concept.
2009
01:33:54,385 --> 01:33:56,512
- The whole thing came
from this nightmare
2010
01:33:56,554 --> 01:33:58,347
that he used to have
when he was a child
2011
01:33:58,389 --> 01:34:00,433
that would haunt him
in his dreams.
2012
01:34:00,475 --> 01:34:02,727
That was the catalyst
to create
2013
01:34:02,769 --> 01:34:04,312
the Uncle Howdy look
and design.
2014
01:34:04,353 --> 01:34:07,231
* *
2015
01:34:07,273 --> 01:34:10,693
- To be able to freely work
with him for the first time
2016
01:34:10,735 --> 01:34:14,822
as colleagues and as brothers,
it was like a dream come true.
2017
01:34:14,864 --> 01:34:16,240
Windham had already
accomplished
2018
01:34:16,282 --> 01:34:18,576
the most unbelievable things
2019
01:34:18,618 --> 01:34:20,203
you could do in this business.
2020
01:34:20,244 --> 01:34:24,582
And his only goal left
was to do it together.
2021
01:34:26,250 --> 01:34:30,088
We were both becoming
monsters.
2022
01:34:30,129 --> 01:34:33,174
I was going to work just
to hang out with my brother.
2023
01:34:33,216 --> 01:34:35,218
That was my job.
2024
01:34:35,259 --> 01:34:39,138
You know,
and to play with my brother.
2025
01:34:39,180 --> 01:34:40,723
- What is that thing?
2026
01:34:40,765 --> 01:34:43,768
- Oh, that's Uncle Howdy.
2027
01:34:44,769 --> 01:34:47,814
- Being two little kids again,
developing the characters,
2028
01:34:47,855 --> 01:34:50,108
and coming up
with ideas for them
2029
01:34:50,149 --> 01:34:53,486
to be able to work together
and complement each other
2030
01:34:53,528 --> 01:34:55,780
was awesome.
2031
01:34:55,822 --> 01:34:59,534
- Uncle Howdy just launched
himself off the top!
2032
01:35:01,119 --> 01:35:03,830
- We're going to be
in WrestleMania together.
2033
01:35:03,871 --> 01:35:06,582
We always had that dream.
2034
01:35:06,624 --> 01:35:10,002
And that dream never changed.
2035
01:35:10,044 --> 01:35:13,756
It only got stronger
and more real.
2036
01:35:13,798 --> 01:35:17,885
That time period where
we were working together...
2037
01:35:17,927 --> 01:35:20,179
- And Sister Abigail!
2038
01:35:20,221 --> 01:35:22,932
- It meant everything to me.
2039
01:35:22,974 --> 01:35:24,976
- You're welcome, Montreal.
2040
01:35:27,687 --> 01:35:29,522
- It was too good to be true.
2041
01:35:29,564 --> 01:35:31,524
* *
2042
01:35:31,566 --> 01:35:33,025
- All of a sudden,
he had this, like,
2043
01:35:33,067 --> 01:35:35,027
second lease on life.
2044
01:35:35,069 --> 01:35:37,321
Man, it came out
of everything he did--
2045
01:35:37,363 --> 01:35:38,906
the joy of it.
2046
01:35:38,948 --> 01:35:43,286
And you know, as we were doing
it, sometimes, we would talk,
2047
01:35:43,327 --> 01:35:46,706
and then we'd get done
an hour of creative whatever.
2048
01:35:46,748 --> 01:35:48,916
And then he'd call me back
two seconds later and be like,
2049
01:35:48,958 --> 01:35:50,960
hey, man, I just want you to
know how much this means to me
2050
01:35:51,002 --> 01:35:52,378
and how much fun I'm having.
2051
01:35:52,420 --> 01:35:55,006
And it made me want
to work harder for him.
2052
01:35:55,048 --> 01:35:56,924
It made me want to run
through a wall for him
2053
01:35:56,966 --> 01:35:59,969
to get this stuff done and to
get it where it needed to be.
2054
01:36:03,097 --> 01:36:07,685
- February 26, 2023.
2055
01:36:07,727 --> 01:36:09,645
- Here I'm getting to stand
across from a guy
2056
01:36:09,687 --> 01:36:15,109
who had really built a name
and a whole aura for himself.
2057
01:36:15,151 --> 01:36:17,945
That's huge.
2058
01:36:17,987 --> 01:36:20,990
He said that his calf
or his knee started to, like,
2059
01:36:21,032 --> 01:36:22,075
seize up or something.
2060
01:36:22,116 --> 01:36:23,076
And I was like, are you good?
2061
01:36:23,117 --> 01:36:24,410
Are you good?
2062
01:36:24,452 --> 01:36:25,995
And it was just like,
all right, well,
2063
01:36:26,037 --> 01:36:28,081
we were trying to work
as best we could
2064
01:36:28,122 --> 01:36:30,124
to kind of protect him.
2065
01:36:32,377 --> 01:36:34,921
- Nobody knew at the time--
2066
01:36:34,962 --> 01:36:37,715
not even Windham Rotunda--
2067
01:36:37,757 --> 01:36:42,595
that he had just completed
his final match.
2068
01:36:47,058 --> 01:36:49,352
- March 2023.
2069
01:36:49,394 --> 01:36:51,396
The Bray Wyatt character
was suddenly
2070
01:36:51,437 --> 01:36:55,400
absent from WWE programming.
2071
01:36:55,441 --> 01:36:59,779
- I was at TV and found out
Windham wasn't there.
2072
01:36:59,821 --> 01:37:01,948
And I called him like,
where are you at?
2073
01:37:01,989 --> 01:37:04,659
And he was at home.
He had COVID.
2074
01:37:04,700 --> 01:37:06,744
- He went to the hospital.
2075
01:37:06,786 --> 01:37:08,287
He tested positive for COVID.
2076
01:37:08,329 --> 01:37:09,956
They were like, oh, my God.
They admitted him.
2077
01:37:09,997 --> 01:37:11,541
His heart.
2078
01:37:11,582 --> 01:37:16,546
* *
2079
01:37:16,587 --> 01:37:20,007
He had to go do stress
and echocardiograms
2080
01:37:20,049 --> 01:37:23,219
through this period of time.
2081
01:37:23,261 --> 01:37:24,679
- It was a weakened heart.
2082
01:37:24,721 --> 01:37:27,724
It was like, the way his heart
performed and functioned,
2083
01:37:27,765 --> 01:37:30,768
it was not where
it needed to be.
2084
01:37:30,810 --> 01:37:32,687
It kept making him feel off.
2085
01:37:32,729 --> 01:37:35,690
He kept saying, I feel off.
2086
01:37:35,732 --> 01:37:38,526
- I didn't think
it was that serious.
2087
01:37:38,568 --> 01:37:40,903
I mean, to me,
he's my big brother.
2088
01:37:40,945 --> 01:37:42,739
Nothing can hurt him.
2089
01:37:42,780 --> 01:37:44,365
* *
2090
01:37:44,407 --> 01:37:46,492
- He didn't share
too many details.
2091
01:37:46,534 --> 01:37:48,619
He just always wanted to assure
everybody that he was fine--
2092
01:37:48,661 --> 01:37:50,079
I'm fine.
2093
01:37:50,121 --> 01:37:53,583
But I could see that
he didn't feel amazing.
2094
01:37:53,624 --> 01:37:55,251
- He worked with
a cardiologist.
2095
01:37:55,293 --> 01:37:56,711
And he was on medication.
2096
01:37:56,753 --> 01:38:01,340
He was already cleared
to work out, but not a lot.
2097
01:38:01,382 --> 01:38:05,470
They'd say just light cardio
was fine, so he would do that.
2098
01:38:05,511 --> 01:38:07,221
He was doing a little
bit better and then
2099
01:38:07,263 --> 01:38:08,639
it kept getting better
and better and better.
2100
01:38:08,681 --> 01:38:11,392
And then a couple times,
it kind of backtracked.
2101
01:38:13,686 --> 01:38:16,606
- My sister, she was staying
at his guest house.
2102
01:38:16,647 --> 01:38:18,232
And when she walked
in the garage,
2103
01:38:18,274 --> 01:38:20,026
there was a rattlesnake.
2104
01:38:20,068 --> 01:38:22,153
So we freaked out
and drove there.
2105
01:38:22,195 --> 01:38:26,574
And we had to lift up
some stuff and get to it.
2106
01:38:26,616 --> 01:38:30,453
And afterwards--
he always sweated,
2107
01:38:30,495 --> 01:38:33,289
but it was more than that,
and in his eyes.
2108
01:38:33,331 --> 01:38:35,333
And he said, I don't feel good.
2109
01:38:35,374 --> 01:38:37,001
I just got to take a nap.
2110
01:38:37,043 --> 01:38:40,129
And it was, like,
3:00 in the afternoon.
2111
01:38:40,171 --> 01:38:44,717
And it crossed my mind.
2112
01:38:44,759 --> 01:38:47,053
And I worried for him
because he's my brother.
2113
01:38:47,095 --> 01:38:48,805
In that moment,
I go, are you OK?
2114
01:38:48,846 --> 01:38:50,139
And I asked him then.
2115
01:38:50,181 --> 01:38:51,891
Yeah, yeah, I'm fine.
2116
01:38:51,933 --> 01:38:53,601
But I never really worried.
2117
01:38:53,643 --> 01:38:57,647
I never thought,
oh, Windham is really sick.
2118
01:38:57,688 --> 01:38:59,107
Never for a second.
2119
01:38:59,148 --> 01:39:02,652
I was just waiting for the call
to come back as monsters
2120
01:39:02,693 --> 01:39:04,070
like we both wanted.
2121
01:39:04,112 --> 01:39:07,115
* *
2122
01:39:07,156 --> 01:39:08,825
- He was still under
the doctor's care.
2123
01:39:08,866 --> 01:39:12,495
And we were right there
to where, oh, he's fine.
2124
01:39:12,537 --> 01:39:15,164
He should be able
to go back soon.
2125
01:39:15,206 --> 01:39:17,417
But he didn't feel good.
2126
01:39:17,458 --> 01:39:21,838
And they set him up
with a vest that
2127
01:39:21,879 --> 01:39:26,676
was actually to where it
would shock him if he stopped.
2128
01:39:26,718 --> 01:39:30,179
And they released him
from the hospital with that,
2129
01:39:30,221 --> 01:39:31,389
and he swore he would wear it.
2130
01:39:31,431 --> 01:39:32,682
Mike and I picked him up
at the hospital
2131
01:39:32,724 --> 01:39:34,142
and brought him home.
2132
01:39:34,183 --> 01:39:37,437
We watched it get fitted
and everything, and he wore it.
2133
01:39:37,478 --> 01:39:43,234
And then he went for
the follow-up with his doctor.
2134
01:39:46,070 --> 01:39:49,407
- Thursday, August 24.
2135
01:39:49,449 --> 01:39:52,577
Windham had a morning checkup
with his doctor.
2136
01:39:52,618 --> 01:39:55,955
- He called me and he said,
probably, at some point,
2137
01:39:55,997 --> 01:39:58,332
I'm going to have to do
a pacemaker or something.
2138
01:39:58,374 --> 01:40:01,544
So he didn't tell me there
was good news or bad news,
2139
01:40:01,586 --> 01:40:03,921
but he was--
2140
01:40:03,963 --> 01:40:05,965
Ma, I'm going to be fine.
2141
01:40:06,007 --> 01:40:07,675
- It was that morning.
2142
01:40:07,717 --> 01:40:09,761
I had called him
and he answered the phone.
2143
01:40:09,802 --> 01:40:11,637
And he was like,
hey, what's up Sam?
2144
01:40:11,679 --> 01:40:14,015
I said, well, do you want to
get the kids from school today?
2145
01:40:14,057 --> 01:40:15,391
And he was like,
I would love that.
2146
01:40:15,433 --> 01:40:17,018
Yeah, I'm going to pick
the kids up from school.
2147
01:40:17,060 --> 01:40:18,394
I said, OK, cool.
2148
01:40:18,436 --> 01:40:20,605
I think this was, like,
10:00 in the morning.
2149
01:40:20,646 --> 01:40:23,316
- He walks in the house,
he's excited.
2150
01:40:23,357 --> 01:40:25,234
Just, hey, guys, what's up?
2151
01:40:25,276 --> 01:40:27,111
All the kids jumping on him
and everything.
2152
01:40:27,153 --> 01:40:29,572
So he was just
really, really happy.
2153
01:40:29,614 --> 01:40:32,075
And he's like,
I'm going to go take a nap.
2154
01:40:32,116 --> 01:40:33,534
And I was like,
all right, cool.
2155
01:40:33,576 --> 01:40:35,244
He goes to sleep
around 2:00 PM.
2156
01:40:38,456 --> 01:40:40,041
So I'm doing my thing
in the kitchen.
2157
01:40:40,083 --> 01:40:41,584
My mom's there.
2158
01:40:41,626 --> 01:40:44,921
And then his alarm
starts going off at 3:00.
2159
01:40:44,962 --> 01:40:47,382
And so then I walked over
and I was like, babe,
2160
01:40:47,423 --> 01:40:48,883
your alarm's going off.
2161
01:40:48,925 --> 01:40:52,720
And then I touched his leg,
and he wouldn't move.
2162
01:40:52,762 --> 01:40:55,932
And so then like I started
shaking him and hitting him,
2163
01:40:55,973 --> 01:40:57,225
and he wouldn't move.
2164
01:40:57,266 --> 01:40:59,977
And so I screamed for my mom.
2165
01:41:00,019 --> 01:41:01,354
* *
2166
01:41:01,396 --> 01:41:03,773
I call 911 immediately.
2167
01:41:03,815 --> 01:41:07,360
In the meantime,
my mom is calling his mom.
2168
01:41:07,402 --> 01:41:09,612
* *
2169
01:41:09,654 --> 01:41:11,447
- She's screaming, Windham's
having a heart attack.
2170
01:41:11,489 --> 01:41:12,865
Windham's having
a heart attack.
2171
01:41:12,907 --> 01:41:14,784
And I'm like,
no, no, no, no, no.
2172
01:41:14,826 --> 01:41:15,785
Put him on the phone.
2173
01:41:15,827 --> 01:41:17,245
Put him on the phone.
2174
01:41:17,286 --> 01:41:20,623
And I immediately
called Taylor.
2175
01:41:20,665 --> 01:41:22,291
- She said she didn't know
the details.
2176
01:41:22,333 --> 01:41:24,460
He just stopped breathing.
2177
01:41:24,502 --> 01:41:28,047
- I'm following them
with him in the gurney.
2178
01:41:28,089 --> 01:41:30,466
And I kept yelling at him.
2179
01:41:30,508 --> 01:41:32,135
I'm like, please
just come back to me.
2180
01:41:32,176 --> 01:41:35,888
I'm like,
please just come back to me.
2181
01:41:39,225 --> 01:41:41,269
- My car was in the shop,
2182
01:41:41,310 --> 01:41:43,062
so I had to call Taylor
and say, Taylor,
2183
01:41:43,104 --> 01:41:45,606
I need you to come get me
and the baby now.
2184
01:41:45,648 --> 01:41:48,109
And I remember getting
my baby dressed.
2185
01:41:48,151 --> 01:41:51,446
And I just kept saying to her,
everything's going to be OK.
2186
01:41:51,487 --> 01:41:53,948
Everything's going to be OK.
2187
01:41:53,990 --> 01:41:59,287
And in the back of my mind,
I just knew it's not OK.
2188
01:41:59,328 --> 01:42:01,247
* *
2189
01:42:01,289 --> 01:42:02,498
- As soon as we walked in,
2190
01:42:02,540 --> 01:42:05,543
they pulled us
in a room alone.
2191
01:42:07,128 --> 01:42:08,629
The doctor walked in.
2192
01:42:08,671 --> 01:42:14,886
And it's like something you see
2193
01:42:14,927 --> 01:42:18,681
a million times in movies,
2194
01:42:18,723 --> 01:42:20,892
but you really don't know
what it feels like
2195
01:42:20,933 --> 01:42:23,478
until it happens.
2196
01:42:28,024 --> 01:42:32,653
He said, we got bad news.
2197
01:42:35,782 --> 01:42:38,326
He's gone.
2198
01:42:38,367 --> 01:42:42,622
And it's like time slowed down.
2199
01:42:42,663 --> 01:42:47,210
I could see the reaction
of everybody in the room.
2200
01:42:47,251 --> 01:42:49,629
My mom and dad crumbling.
2201
01:42:49,670 --> 01:42:53,966
And my sister, she's got her
baby wrapped to her chest
2202
01:42:54,008 --> 01:42:55,551
and she's falling.
2203
01:42:55,593 --> 01:42:59,347
And I've never been more sad.
2204
01:42:59,389 --> 01:43:02,100
But something in me--
2205
01:43:02,141 --> 01:43:06,854
and I still to this day
think it was Windham--
2206
01:43:06,896 --> 01:43:09,899
something in me gave me
the strength to go, stop.
2207
01:43:09,941 --> 01:43:14,737
You need to hold them up.
2208
01:43:14,779 --> 01:43:20,410
He gave me strength
in a moment where
2209
01:43:20,451 --> 01:43:22,912
I would think I would crumble.
2210
01:43:22,954 --> 01:43:27,959
And I really believe
it was him.
2211
01:43:28,000 --> 01:43:33,339
And he was telling me,
be there for Mom.
2212
01:43:33,381 --> 01:43:35,383
Hold her up.
2213
01:43:38,219 --> 01:43:41,013
- Taylor had to pick me up
off the floor
2214
01:43:41,055 --> 01:43:47,186
and I just remember
his hands felt so big.
2215
01:43:47,228 --> 01:43:51,149
He just held me, picked me up.
2216
01:43:51,190 --> 01:43:52,900
There was nothing we could do.
2217
01:43:52,942 --> 01:43:57,447
It was absolute disbelief
that this isn't happening.
2218
01:43:57,488 --> 01:43:59,449
This is not real.
2219
01:43:59,490 --> 01:44:01,325
And I kept looking
at Mike going,
2220
01:44:01,367 --> 01:44:03,286
Mike, you got to do something.
2221
01:44:03,327 --> 01:44:05,121
Fix this. Fix this now.
2222
01:44:05,163 --> 01:44:07,498
* *
2223
01:44:07,540 --> 01:44:10,084
- It was just heartbreaking.
2224
01:44:10,126 --> 01:44:14,338
Somebody sticking their fist
in your chest
2225
01:44:14,380 --> 01:44:17,467
and pulling your heart out.
2226
01:44:17,508 --> 01:44:19,594
- My sister called me.
2227
01:44:19,635 --> 01:44:22,597
And all she said was...
2228
01:44:26,851 --> 01:44:28,853
Windham is gone.
2229
01:44:31,397 --> 01:44:33,483
- My phone rang when I was
sitting on the plane.
2230
01:44:33,524 --> 01:44:35,485
And I answered it,
2231
01:44:35,526 --> 01:44:39,697
and JoJo said, he's gone.
2232
01:44:39,739 --> 01:44:42,408
And I said,
what do you mean he's gone?
2233
01:44:42,450 --> 01:44:44,118
He's dead.
2234
01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:48,831
And I literally was
walking off the airplane,
2235
01:44:48,873 --> 01:44:51,542
I dropped to my knees
on the jet bridge.
2236
01:44:51,584 --> 01:44:53,795
And I just--
2237
01:44:57,048 --> 01:45:01,719
I felt like, all of a sudden,
something was missing from me.
2238
01:45:01,761 --> 01:45:03,638
- I got a phone call,
and it was Jo.
2239
01:45:03,679 --> 01:45:07,058
She goes, Windham's gone.
2240
01:45:11,521 --> 01:45:14,357
And I screamed.
2241
01:45:14,399 --> 01:45:15,733
- All I could think about is,
2242
01:45:15,775 --> 01:45:18,319
how am I going to tell
my children--
2243
01:45:18,361 --> 01:45:20,863
they're three and four--
that they just lost their dad?
2244
01:45:20,905 --> 01:45:23,157
* *
2245
01:45:23,199 --> 01:45:26,035
- People say like,
it was a nightmare.
2246
01:45:26,077 --> 01:45:28,579
But you don't know what
that feels like until
2247
01:45:28,621 --> 01:45:31,124
you live a nightmare.
2248
01:45:31,165 --> 01:45:35,086
- It was and will forever be
2249
01:45:35,128 --> 01:45:38,214
the worst day of my life.
2250
01:45:38,256 --> 01:45:40,216
* *
2251
01:45:40,258 --> 01:45:43,177
- He didn't have the vest on.
2252
01:45:43,219 --> 01:45:46,889
Don't know what happened.
2253
01:45:46,931 --> 01:45:48,683
* *
2254
01:45:48,725 --> 01:45:53,271
- Windham Rotunda passed away.
2255
01:45:53,312 --> 01:45:56,274
He was 36 years old.
2256
01:45:56,315 --> 01:46:01,738
* *
2257
01:46:01,779 --> 01:46:04,866
Just 24 hours after
Windham's passing,
2258
01:46:04,907 --> 01:46:07,368
WWE's Friday Night
SmackDown program
2259
01:46:07,410 --> 01:46:11,539
was set to air live
from Louisville, Kentucky.
2260
01:46:15,168 --> 01:46:17,879
Life is short.
2261
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:22,341
This doesn't tell you
anything else.
2262
01:46:22,383 --> 01:46:24,469
It's short.
2263
01:46:25,762 --> 01:46:28,473
It still feels--
it's still surreal.
2264
01:46:28,514 --> 01:46:30,016
I still feel like I just
2265
01:46:30,058 --> 01:46:33,019
haven't seen him
for a little while, you know,
2266
01:46:33,061 --> 01:46:39,400
because he was so
larger-than-life as a person
2267
01:46:39,442 --> 01:46:46,074
and so big personality-wise
and everything was so good.
2268
01:46:46,115 --> 01:46:51,996
And for somebody that young,
it's just a crazy--
2269
01:46:54,832 --> 01:46:57,543
I don't know how
to put it into words.
2270
01:46:57,585 --> 01:46:59,295
36 years old.
2271
01:46:59,337 --> 01:47:00,421
Cherish it.
2272
01:47:00,463 --> 01:47:02,382
Cherish each other.
2273
01:47:02,423 --> 01:47:05,301
- Sitting here doing this
whole thing about Windham,
2274
01:47:05,343 --> 01:47:08,721
and even now, there's still
a huge part of me
2275
01:47:08,763 --> 01:47:10,306
that's in total denial.
2276
01:47:10,348 --> 01:47:12,266
You know what I mean?
2277
01:47:17,605 --> 01:47:20,274
Yeah.
2278
01:47:20,316 --> 01:47:23,903
- I just didn't believe it.
2279
01:47:23,945 --> 01:47:25,655
I just thought it was bullshit.
2280
01:47:25,696 --> 01:47:28,449
I just thought it wasn't real.
2281
01:47:28,491 --> 01:47:31,244
Sometimes, even now,
I still don't think it's real.
2282
01:47:34,205 --> 01:47:35,540
Yeah. I don't know.
2283
01:47:35,581 --> 01:47:38,042
It sucked. It still sucks.
2284
01:47:41,254 --> 01:47:43,631
- Everything we wanted to do
2285
01:47:43,673 --> 01:47:48,052
was a tribute to Bray.
2286
01:47:49,387 --> 01:47:51,889
Just to say thank you.
2287
01:48:07,989 --> 01:48:10,867
- Just a barrage of different
feelings in my head.
2288
01:48:13,244 --> 01:48:15,788
I miss him.
2289
01:48:15,830 --> 01:48:21,210
- He was just a light
in everyone's lives.
2290
01:48:21,252 --> 01:48:24,797
- He was one of the greatest
people I've ever met.
2291
01:48:24,839 --> 01:48:26,466
And I wouldn't be
where I am in my life
2292
01:48:26,507 --> 01:48:28,384
without meeting him.
2293
01:48:28,426 --> 01:48:31,512
I miss you. I miss you.
2294
01:48:31,554 --> 01:48:35,558
* *
2295
01:48:35,600 --> 01:48:38,102
- He touched a lot of people.
2296
01:48:38,144 --> 01:48:39,812
* *
2297
01:48:39,854 --> 01:48:43,066
He was loved by millions.
2298
01:48:43,107 --> 01:48:46,194
* *
2299
01:48:46,235 --> 01:48:49,572
- Windham's sudden passing
left the entire WWE Universe
2300
01:48:49,614 --> 01:48:52,116
in shock.
2301
01:48:52,158 --> 01:48:55,161
Honoring his legacy
would be a tall task.
2302
01:48:59,624 --> 01:49:01,459
all: Thank you, Bray!
Thank you, Bray!
2303
01:49:01,501 --> 01:49:04,420
Thank you, Bray!
Thank you, Bray!
2304
01:49:04,462 --> 01:49:08,883
- Following Windham's passing,
in arenas across the country,
2305
01:49:08,925 --> 01:49:14,055
superstars and fans paid
tribute to Bray Wyatt.
2306
01:49:14,097 --> 01:49:17,392
- I know that all of you
can feel the spirit
2307
01:49:17,433 --> 01:49:19,310
of Bray Wyatt in this building.
2308
01:49:21,979 --> 01:49:24,941
- That was the one time
where I kind of struggled.
2309
01:49:24,982 --> 01:49:26,609
It started to break me.
2310
01:49:26,651 --> 01:49:29,028
I had to look at the ceiling
to keep everything together,
2311
01:49:29,070 --> 01:49:31,364
and just big deep breath.
2312
01:49:31,406 --> 01:49:33,574
- This one is for Windham.
2313
01:49:33,616 --> 01:49:35,910
Hug the ones that you love.
2314
01:49:35,952 --> 01:49:37,620
He was a special human being.
2315
01:49:37,662 --> 01:49:39,288
He was a good human being.
2316
01:49:39,330 --> 01:49:42,083
There's just not very many
people like Windham Rotunda.
2317
01:49:42,125 --> 01:49:45,002
There's nobody
like Windham Rotunda.
2318
01:49:45,044 --> 01:49:48,381
- I'll always think of him
for the rest of my career
2319
01:49:48,423 --> 01:49:51,634
every single time
I see these fireflies.
2320
01:49:55,930 --> 01:49:57,640
It was the only therapy
that I was able
2321
01:49:57,682 --> 01:50:00,685
to get was in that ring.
2322
01:50:00,727 --> 01:50:05,022
He was truly a beautiful soul
inside of the ring and out.
2323
01:50:05,064 --> 01:50:09,235
- It was touching to see
so many people care
2324
01:50:09,277 --> 01:50:12,864
and know that he touched
so many people.
2325
01:50:12,905 --> 01:50:18,035
- He really touched lives
from all over the world.
2326
01:50:18,077 --> 01:50:20,037
- It was just overwhelming--
2327
01:50:20,079 --> 01:50:24,709
really overwhelming to see
how much he was loved.
2328
01:50:24,751 --> 01:50:27,336
I was like, wow.
2329
01:50:27,378 --> 01:50:28,755
Wow.
2330
01:50:28,796 --> 01:50:30,048
He was loved.
2331
01:50:37,889 --> 01:50:40,433
- September 6th.
2332
01:50:40,475 --> 01:50:42,810
Two weeks after
Windham's passing,
2333
01:50:42,852 --> 01:50:44,979
a service was held
in his hometown
2334
01:50:45,021 --> 01:50:47,857
of Brooksville, Florida.
2335
01:50:47,899 --> 01:50:51,027
- To go and plan
your son's funeral
2336
01:50:51,069 --> 01:50:53,863
is the worst thing
in the world.
2337
01:50:53,905 --> 01:50:56,532
It was the hardest thing
in the world.
2338
01:50:56,574 --> 01:50:58,576
* *
2339
01:50:58,618 --> 01:51:02,580
- We wanted it to be very
Windham down to his urn.
2340
01:51:02,622 --> 01:51:03,831
Very much like him.
2341
01:51:03,873 --> 01:51:06,375
And it's a flame.
2342
01:51:06,417 --> 01:51:09,712
- The smoke going off
and the red lights,
2343
01:51:09,754 --> 01:51:11,422
it was a Windham funeral.
2344
01:51:11,464 --> 01:51:13,841
And it made me smile.
2345
01:51:13,883 --> 01:51:16,969
- Seeing everyone together--
how important he was
2346
01:51:17,011 --> 01:51:18,930
to so many people--
2347
01:51:18,971 --> 01:51:22,892
that speaks volumes
for the man that he was.
2348
01:51:22,934 --> 01:51:24,560
- I did get to go
to the funeral.
2349
01:51:24,602 --> 01:51:27,438
And there was
some closure there.
2350
01:51:27,480 --> 01:51:31,067
But at the same time,
how can there be closure
2351
01:51:31,109 --> 01:51:35,780
on a guy who was just stepping
into his prime, really?
2352
01:51:37,907 --> 01:51:42,703
- I was hurting more that day
than I ever thought possible.
2353
01:51:42,745 --> 01:51:45,164
I really don't know how
I'm going to get through this.
2354
01:51:45,206 --> 01:51:51,379
But I know Windham would
have done this for me,
2355
01:51:51,421 --> 01:51:55,466
and he would have
ended up killing it.
2356
01:51:55,508 --> 01:51:57,427
He really would have.
2357
01:51:57,468 --> 01:52:03,433
He wasn't just my big brother
or my best friend.
2358
01:52:03,474 --> 01:52:06,894
He was my idol.
2359
01:52:06,936 --> 01:52:08,688
- Windham was
Taylor's superhero.
2360
01:52:08,730 --> 01:52:11,983
The eulogy that Taylor gave
at Windham's service
2361
01:52:12,024 --> 01:52:15,611
was unbelievable.
2362
01:52:15,653 --> 01:52:20,032
- He is and always will be
the most beautiful,
2363
01:52:20,074 --> 01:52:24,579
amazing person I've ever known.
2364
01:52:24,620 --> 01:52:27,707
I love you so much, Windham.
2365
01:52:27,749 --> 01:52:29,292
- I could feel
Windham's comfort
2366
01:52:29,333 --> 01:52:31,836
as I stood up there to speak.
2367
01:52:31,878 --> 01:52:34,005
A couple months ago,
I had this unique opportunity.
2368
01:52:34,047 --> 01:52:37,592
My dad actually asked me
to do it.
2369
01:52:37,633 --> 01:52:39,469
He's working on a book.
2370
01:52:39,510 --> 01:52:43,598
And he said, you know,
set something up with the boys
2371
01:52:43,639 --> 01:52:46,267
and interview them
and get some transcripts.
2372
01:52:46,309 --> 01:52:48,478
Just talking about
our family and the values
2373
01:52:48,519 --> 01:52:49,896
and how we grew up.
2374
01:52:49,937 --> 01:52:51,564
* *
2375
01:52:51,606 --> 01:52:53,649
I had no idea that
Windham was going to tell us
2376
01:52:53,691 --> 01:52:57,111
how he wanted to be remembered.
2377
01:52:57,153 --> 01:52:59,489
- I want to leave a mark
that makes me
2378
01:52:59,530 --> 01:53:02,617
a first-ballot Hall of Famer
and makes all my kids proud.
2379
01:53:02,658 --> 01:53:04,952
But honestly,
at the end of the day,
2380
01:53:04,994 --> 01:53:06,954
when I go into the dirt,
2381
01:53:06,996 --> 01:53:09,499
I think that
I will be remembered
2382
01:53:09,540 --> 01:53:11,709
for far more things
than just wrestling.
2383
01:53:11,751 --> 01:53:15,380
Making sure that my kids
and JoJo, everybody,
2384
01:53:15,421 --> 01:53:17,090
that they know
they can count on me
2385
01:53:17,131 --> 01:53:19,926
and that I will be there
for them no matter what.
2386
01:53:19,967 --> 01:53:23,179
* *
2387
01:53:23,221 --> 01:53:29,519
- Windham was gone,
but his ideas live on.
2388
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:33,231
He still has
one final creation
2389
01:53:33,272 --> 01:53:35,691
to share with the world.
2390
01:53:35,733 --> 01:53:37,735
* *
2391
01:53:37,777 --> 01:53:39,695
- He was here a bunch.
2392
01:53:39,737 --> 01:53:41,989
He came, like, three
or four times over the summer
2393
01:53:42,031 --> 01:53:43,199
spitballing ideas--
2394
01:53:43,241 --> 01:53:45,410
I want to do this.
I want to do that.
2395
01:53:45,451 --> 01:53:48,871
And from there, we started
working on the new Fiend.
2396
01:53:48,913 --> 01:53:50,873
We made the new lantern.
2397
01:53:50,915 --> 01:53:52,291
We threw a little
animatronics in there
2398
01:53:52,333 --> 01:53:54,919
so the eyes move
back and forth.
2399
01:53:56,337 --> 01:53:59,257
We made the new mask,
started talking about gear.
2400
01:53:59,298 --> 01:54:00,550
Windham always wanted
something new,
2401
01:54:00,591 --> 01:54:02,260
something fresh,
something different.
2402
01:54:02,301 --> 01:54:05,722
What would the next evolution
of The Fiend be?
2403
01:54:08,766 --> 01:54:11,519
* *
2404
01:54:11,561 --> 01:54:15,106
* *
2405
01:54:15,148 --> 01:54:17,608
We 3D sculpted
a body form of Windham.
2406
01:54:17,650 --> 01:54:19,819
The mask had already
been approved by Windham.
2407
01:54:19,861 --> 01:54:22,280
This jacket was actually
something he had purchased,
2408
01:54:22,321 --> 01:54:24,907
and his mother and father
had sent it to us.
2409
01:54:24,949 --> 01:54:27,201
So we were able to use that.
2410
01:54:27,243 --> 01:54:29,537
Windham always loved
little Easter eggs.
2411
01:54:29,579 --> 01:54:31,998
When we did the original
lantern, if you look,
2412
01:54:32,039 --> 01:54:33,374
the eyes just look
like stitches,
2413
01:54:33,416 --> 01:54:35,209
but they're actually
Roman numerals
2414
01:54:35,251 --> 01:54:37,545
of Knash, his son's, birthday.
2415
01:54:37,587 --> 01:54:40,590
So we just kept
that tradition going.
2416
01:54:40,631 --> 01:54:42,675
The pinstripe,
Windham got the idea
2417
01:54:42,717 --> 01:54:45,803
to do each one
of his children's names.
2418
01:54:45,845 --> 01:54:48,222
He loved making you look
at something twice to find
2419
01:54:48,264 --> 01:54:50,600
something else more about it.
2420
01:54:50,641 --> 01:54:53,644
The stitches we did in a way
to where they're actually
2421
01:54:53,686 --> 01:54:55,772
the Roman numerals
of what would have been
2422
01:54:55,813 --> 01:54:58,649
his wedding anniversary,
which is December 6th.
2423
01:54:58,691 --> 01:55:00,276
12 on this side.
2424
01:55:00,318 --> 01:55:04,280
And then here, we have the six.
2425
01:55:04,322 --> 01:55:05,907
One of the ideas
that Windham had was,
2426
01:55:05,948 --> 01:55:08,284
instead of doing the spider
walk where he leans backwards,
2427
01:55:08,326 --> 01:55:10,078
if we did something where
he could lean forward.
2428
01:55:10,119 --> 01:55:11,954
His hair would
kind of fly up over.
2429
01:55:11,996 --> 01:55:13,456
So when he was crawling around,
2430
01:55:13,498 --> 01:55:14,916
he would expose
the second mask,
2431
01:55:14,957 --> 01:55:16,042
which would be hidden
by his hair.
2432
01:55:16,084 --> 01:55:17,752
Gross, disgusting face
on the front.
2433
01:55:17,794 --> 01:55:19,712
But then on the back,
we'd have this beautiful face.
2434
01:55:19,754 --> 01:55:22,256
And to Windham, the most
beautiful face was JoJo's.
2435
01:55:22,298 --> 01:55:24,050
So we 3D scanned JoJo's face.
2436
01:55:24,092 --> 01:55:27,637
And we were able to make a copy
of that and then sculpt it.
2437
01:55:27,678 --> 01:55:30,139
And we decided to put
these mockingbirds on there.
2438
01:55:30,181 --> 01:55:33,226
That's another homage to JoJo.
2439
01:55:33,267 --> 01:55:35,144
Windham's nickname
for JoJo was Mockingbird.
2440
01:55:35,186 --> 01:55:41,651
* *
2441
01:55:41,692 --> 01:55:44,445
It's devastatingly
heartbreaking that
2442
01:55:44,487 --> 01:55:45,863
this is the last thing
I ever get to work on
2443
01:55:45,905 --> 01:55:47,323
with my best friend.
2444
01:55:47,365 --> 01:55:50,410
But I couldn't be more proud
of my crew and everyone
2445
01:55:50,451 --> 01:55:54,705
that came together that
helped us bring this to life.
2446
01:55:56,666 --> 01:55:59,252
I think it really
just hurts the most
2447
01:55:59,293 --> 01:56:01,713
that I never got to tell him
how much he meant to me.
2448
01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:05,466
It never felt work with him.
2449
01:56:05,508 --> 01:56:07,135
I just felt like I got to
hang out with my best friend,
2450
01:56:07,176 --> 01:56:09,846
and I miss that.
2451
01:56:09,887 --> 01:56:14,350
If I can give this to his fans
which meant the world to him,
2452
01:56:14,392 --> 01:56:16,811
then not all of him
is completely gone.
2453
01:56:16,853 --> 01:56:19,689
So if I get to help
my friend live on
2454
01:56:19,731 --> 01:56:23,693
in some way or capacity,
I'll be OK with that.
2455
01:56:23,735 --> 01:56:25,528
I can do that.
2456
01:56:27,321 --> 01:56:31,659
- He's not gone,
because the art he left
2457
01:56:31,701 --> 01:56:36,372
and his ideas will
live on forever.
2458
01:56:39,250 --> 01:56:41,419
- The real him was
much, much more
2459
01:56:41,461 --> 01:56:42,837
and much more entertaining
2460
01:56:42,879 --> 01:56:44,589
than any of his
characters could be.
2461
01:56:44,630 --> 01:56:49,719
He was very entertaining
always.
2462
01:56:49,761 --> 01:56:54,390
And he did that for them,
but you know, we got him.
2463
01:56:54,432 --> 01:56:56,934
And he's missed a lot.
2464
01:56:59,979 --> 01:57:03,900
* *
2465
01:57:03,941 --> 01:57:06,944
- January 2024.
2466
01:57:06,986 --> 01:57:11,449
It's been five months
since Windham passed.
2467
01:57:11,491 --> 01:57:15,995
While he is gone,
2468
01:57:16,037 --> 01:57:20,708
you can still see him here.
2469
01:57:20,750 --> 01:57:24,003
- We can put a little bit
of pink on the rainbow.
2470
01:57:24,045 --> 01:57:25,046
- Good idea.
2471
01:57:25,088 --> 01:57:26,839
* *
2472
01:57:26,881 --> 01:57:28,925
- His smile.
2473
01:57:28,966 --> 01:57:31,094
* *
2474
01:57:31,135 --> 01:57:32,804
His life.
2475
01:57:32,845 --> 01:57:34,639
* *
2476
01:57:34,680 --> 01:57:37,558
His hope.
2477
01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:40,603
- My name is
Cadyn Cole Rotunda.
2478
01:57:40,645 --> 01:57:43,272
- My name is
Kendyl Marie Rotunda.
2479
01:57:43,314 --> 01:57:45,233
* *
2480
01:57:45,274 --> 01:57:48,528
- I like to play sports.
2481
01:57:48,569 --> 01:57:50,613
I just like shoes. It's fun.
2482
01:57:50,655 --> 01:57:52,907
I just liked it 'cause like,
me and my dad did it together.
2483
01:57:52,949 --> 01:57:54,617
So yeah.
2484
01:57:54,659 --> 01:57:56,035
* *
2485
01:57:56,077 --> 01:57:59,956
- I want to travel everywhere
and become an artist.
2486
01:57:59,997 --> 01:58:02,291
* *
2487
01:58:02,333 --> 01:58:04,961
- He's definitely
in all four kids.
2488
01:58:05,002 --> 01:58:06,879
* *
2489
01:58:06,921 --> 01:58:09,257
They all four take after him
in some way.
2490
01:58:09,298 --> 01:58:11,050
* *
2491
01:58:11,092 --> 01:58:14,846
- Hyrie, I'd probably say
chaos.
2492
01:58:14,887 --> 01:58:20,601
Cadyn, probably smart.
2493
01:58:20,643 --> 01:58:23,312
Knash, he's just a dinosaur.
2494
01:58:23,354 --> 01:58:24,772
Just a dinosaur.
2495
01:58:24,814 --> 01:58:31,529
* *
2496
01:58:31,571 --> 01:58:35,616
- Knock on wood--if you
believe in afterlife,
2497
01:58:35,658 --> 01:58:38,244
you know,
we will get to see him again.
2498
01:58:41,414 --> 01:58:44,292
- My fire and love
for the business
2499
01:58:44,333 --> 01:58:46,586
has to burn brighter
than it ever has
2500
01:58:46,627 --> 01:58:50,590
because he's given me
the strength and passion
2501
01:58:50,631 --> 01:58:53,843
to want to carry his legacy on.
2502
01:58:53,885 --> 01:58:56,095
* *
2503
01:58:56,137 --> 01:58:58,389
If you asked him what he was,
2504
01:58:58,431 --> 01:59:01,017
he would say he's an artist.
2505
01:59:01,059 --> 01:59:03,436
* *
2506
01:59:03,478 --> 01:59:09,442
- * He's got the whole world *
2507
01:59:09,484 --> 01:59:14,530
* In his hands *
2508
01:59:14,572 --> 01:59:20,703
- The dad he was,
the son, the brother...
2509
01:59:20,745 --> 01:59:21,704
* *
2510
01:59:21,746 --> 01:59:24,373
Everything of who he was,
2511
01:59:24,415 --> 01:59:26,375
he was the best at it.
2512
01:59:26,417 --> 01:59:28,503
- I'm something
completely different
2513
01:59:28,544 --> 01:59:30,713
than has ever been in the WWE.
2514
01:59:30,755 --> 01:59:33,341
We're here.
2515
01:59:33,383 --> 01:59:37,470
- Windham once said,
wrestling is not a love story.
2516
01:59:37,512 --> 01:59:40,473
It's much more.
2517
01:59:40,515 --> 01:59:46,521
It's hope,
a spectacle no one can deny,
2518
01:59:46,562 --> 01:59:48,773
an excuse to be a kid again.
2519
01:59:48,815 --> 01:59:53,111
And nothing matters except
the moment we are in.
2520
01:59:53,152 --> 01:59:58,366
- Walk by my side, and I will
lead you to paradise!
2521
02:00:00,493 --> 02:00:04,497
- And that is how
Windham Rotunda lived.
2522
02:00:04,539 --> 02:00:08,501
- I am the color red in a world
full of black and white.
2523
02:00:08,543 --> 02:00:10,586
- One of the most
unique minds.
2524
02:00:10,628 --> 02:00:13,715
Changed the landscape.
2525
02:00:13,756 --> 02:00:15,925
- He inspired
not only the fans,
2526
02:00:15,967 --> 02:00:17,760
but a lot of the boys
in the locker room
2527
02:00:17,802 --> 02:00:20,430
to push themselves
to be more creative.
2528
02:00:20,471 --> 02:00:22,140
- There's a love
for this industry.
2529
02:00:22,181 --> 02:00:25,935
And what he gave to it
was something special.
2530
02:00:25,977 --> 02:00:29,772
- Nobody ever has taken
the risks that he has.
2531
02:00:29,814 --> 02:00:32,275
- He opened up a world
that no one could ever do.
2532
02:00:32,316 --> 02:00:36,154
- I am forever.
2533
02:00:36,195 --> 02:00:38,906
- I think he is the template
for taking chances
2534
02:00:38,948 --> 02:00:41,492
and the template
for being brave.
2535
02:00:41,534 --> 02:00:44,120
- Do I have your attention now?
2536
02:00:44,162 --> 02:00:48,624
* *
2537
02:00:48,666 --> 02:00:55,423
- The greatest human I have
ever known, hands down.
2538
02:00:55,465 --> 02:00:57,133
- One of a kind.
2539
02:00:57,175 --> 02:00:59,260
There will only be one Windham.
2540
02:00:59,302 --> 02:01:04,432
- * He's got the whole world *
2541
02:01:04,474 --> 02:01:07,393
* *
2542
02:01:13,524 --> 02:01:14,859
- OK. Stand by.
2543
02:01:14,901 --> 02:01:16,069
Ready to roll.
2544
02:01:19,113 --> 02:01:26,037
* *
2545
02:01:27,997 --> 02:01:29,832
- I've been very honored
to be asked
2546
02:01:29,874 --> 02:01:31,751
to be part of this project.
2547
02:01:31,793 --> 02:01:33,586
It's kind of bizarre to know
2548
02:01:33,628 --> 02:01:35,797
that I worked with Mike.
2549
02:01:35,838 --> 02:01:37,590
And then I remember meeting
2550
02:01:37,632 --> 02:01:40,426
both boys
when they were small kids.
2551
02:01:40,468 --> 02:01:44,138
And then actually working
at WrestleMania with Windham.
2552
02:01:44,180 --> 02:01:47,141
You talk about things
coming full circle.
2553
02:01:47,183 --> 02:01:50,311
I could always see in Windham
that he was so different.
2554
02:01:50,353 --> 02:01:53,689
And you have very few people
that come along
2555
02:01:53,731 --> 02:01:56,109
that actually think
outside of the box.
2556
02:01:56,150 --> 02:01:59,445
He was obviously taken
from us way too soon.
2557
02:01:59,487 --> 02:02:00,780
I know what
he would have been,
2558
02:02:00,822 --> 02:02:03,699
and it would have been
really, really special.
2559
02:02:03,741 --> 02:02:08,079
- * Broken-hearted love *
2560
02:02:19,590 --> 02:02:26,097
* *
2561
02:02:31,102 --> 02:02:32,937
- Run.
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