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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:28,404 --> 00:00:31,616 If you have ever owned a slave, please raise your hand. 4 00:00:33,826 --> 00:00:37,872 And there's not one hand going up anywhere in this theater. 5 00:00:38,372 --> 00:00:41,125 Slavery is not our fault. 6 00:00:41,209 --> 00:00:42,835 We didn't do it. 7 00:00:42,919 --> 00:00:44,545 We didn't cause it. 8 00:00:44,629 --> 00:00:47,465 It's not our responsibility. 9 00:00:47,548 --> 00:00:50,134 But it is our shared history. 10 00:00:55,306 --> 00:00:58,726 And when we try and turn it into something that it's not... 11 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,521 when we try and make more light of it than it was, 12 00:01:02,605 --> 00:01:05,316 then we are denying who we really are, 13 00:01:05,399 --> 00:01:09,195 and we are impeding our ability to truly move forward 14 00:01:09,278 --> 00:01:11,656 as a community or as a nation. 15 00:01:19,538 --> 00:01:22,458 We're at the Lorraine Motel. 16 00:01:23,292 --> 00:01:26,712 And right outside Room 306, there's a wreath, 17 00:01:26,796 --> 00:01:29,715 which is approximately where Dr. King was standing 18 00:01:29,799 --> 00:01:31,425 when he was shot down. 19 00:01:32,301 --> 00:01:36,013 And if you look across the street, there's a building over there 20 00:01:36,097 --> 00:01:38,015 from where the shots were fired. 21 00:01:38,724 --> 00:01:41,519 It was a shot that almost couldn't miss. 22 00:01:43,062 --> 00:01:47,275 Exactly one week before Dr. King was shot, 23 00:01:47,358 --> 00:01:50,861 there was a demonstration here in Downtown Memphis 24 00:01:50,945 --> 00:01:53,447 to support the striking sanitation workers, 25 00:01:53,531 --> 00:01:57,076 and my dad took my older brother and I to that demonstration. 26 00:01:59,203 --> 00:02:03,624 It broke into violence and my dad told us to run. 27 00:02:05,459 --> 00:02:07,920 It's difficult to think about now, 28 00:02:08,004 --> 00:02:12,758 because there was a young Black teenager named Larry Payne. 29 00:02:12,842 --> 00:02:14,593 He lost his life that day. 30 00:02:14,677 --> 00:02:18,472 He encountered a police officer and was killed, and... 31 00:02:19,557 --> 00:02:23,060 It's just one of those events in my childhood 32 00:02:23,144 --> 00:02:26,355 that made me realize how lucky I was. 33 00:02:26,439 --> 00:02:30,359 How lucky I was not to end up like Larry Payne. 34 00:02:31,402 --> 00:02:35,781 And how lucky I was to have come out of Memphis... 35 00:02:36,615 --> 00:02:37,950 in the way that I did. 36 00:02:52,631 --> 00:02:57,762 We've gotta give ourselves to this struggle until the end. 37 00:02:57,845 --> 00:03:00,097 Nothing would be more tragic... 38 00:03:01,015 --> 00:03:02,600 than to stop... 39 00:03:04,852 --> 00:03:07,813 at this point in Memphis. 40 00:03:09,190 --> 00:03:10,858 We've gotta see it through. 41 00:03:19,700 --> 00:03:23,204 Tonight, Jeff Robinson will tell us stories that we've not heard. 42 00:03:23,287 --> 00:03:25,247 Stories that we think we know, 43 00:03:25,331 --> 00:03:28,042 but have not wrestled with their meaning yet. 44 00:03:28,125 --> 00:03:29,794 The story of us. 45 00:03:30,628 --> 00:03:34,006 Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for Jeff Robinson, y'all. 46 00:03:44,725 --> 00:03:45,643 Hey, y'all. 47 00:03:49,021 --> 00:03:51,565 I was 11 years old in 1968. 48 00:03:51,649 --> 00:03:54,026 And to my young eyes, 49 00:03:54,110 --> 00:03:58,781 we had been on a path toward racial justice that was amazing. 50 00:03:58,864 --> 00:04:02,159 There was the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act. 51 00:04:02,243 --> 00:04:05,538 We were winning on buses and at lunch counters. 52 00:04:07,498 --> 00:04:11,460 We were seemingly, to me, at a tipping point 53 00:04:11,544 --> 00:04:14,380 where we were either gonna roll forward 54 00:04:14,463 --> 00:04:17,007 with this incredible momentum on racial justice 55 00:04:17,091 --> 00:04:19,218 or we could roll back. 56 00:04:19,301 --> 00:04:21,554 And then April 4th happened. 57 00:04:22,972 --> 00:04:24,849 And King got shot in the neck. 58 00:04:26,225 --> 00:04:30,312 And it felt like the whole thing just rolled back. 59 00:04:32,773 --> 00:04:36,402 Because then came Richard Nixon and the War on Drugs. 60 00:04:37,361 --> 00:04:39,363 We're 50 years later now. 61 00:04:39,447 --> 00:04:41,282 And once again, 62 00:04:41,365 --> 00:04:46,871 young activists in America are making Americans take a look in the mirror, 63 00:04:46,954 --> 00:04:51,083 in terms of our true history of race and racial prejudice. 64 00:04:51,167 --> 00:04:55,504 Once again, the young activists are calling us to account. 65 00:04:55,588 --> 00:05:00,301 Once again, America is having to look at issues of race dead in the eye, 66 00:05:00,384 --> 00:05:03,888 and once again, we are at a tipping point. 67 00:05:04,472 --> 00:05:07,725 And the question for all of us in this room is: 68 00:05:07,808 --> 00:05:09,727 "What are we gonna do about it?" 69 00:05:11,353 --> 00:05:14,648 We are our own worst enemies 70 00:05:14,732 --> 00:05:18,986 when it comes to making true racial progress in America. 71 00:05:19,069 --> 00:05:23,532 And unless we are willing to take a long and hard look in the mirror, 72 00:05:23,616 --> 00:05:28,037 this concept of taking two steps forward and three steps backward 73 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,583 is where we are going to continue moving in this country. 74 00:05:41,217 --> 00:05:44,929 In 2011, my wife and I became parents. 75 00:05:45,804 --> 00:05:49,058 My sister-in-law who lived here in Queens passed away, 76 00:05:49,141 --> 00:05:52,686 and we became the parents of her then-13-year-old son. 77 00:05:54,396 --> 00:05:57,942 And if you ask Matthew Liam Brooks, "What are you?" 78 00:05:58,025 --> 00:06:02,530 He will tell you, "I'm Puerto Rican, Taino Indian and African American." 79 00:06:02,613 --> 00:06:04,281 And he's very proud of that. 80 00:06:04,365 --> 00:06:06,784 And when I look at him, I say, "I understand, dude. 81 00:06:06,867 --> 00:06:08,661 But you're a young Black male. 82 00:06:08,744 --> 00:06:11,539 "Cause that's what America is gonna see.” 83 00:06:11,622 --> 00:06:12,748 And all of a sudden, 84 00:06:12,831 --> 00:06:16,335 the surface skimming that I felt like I had been doing 85 00:06:16,418 --> 00:06:21,173 on the history of race and what racism meant in America, 86 00:06:21,257 --> 00:06:24,260 it wasn't enough, and so I started reading more. 87 00:06:24,343 --> 00:06:30,891 And I found myself getting angry and feeling ignorant. 88 00:06:31,475 --> 00:06:35,604 I went to Marquette University and I graduated from Harvard Law School. 89 00:06:35,688 --> 00:06:38,649 I've had one of the best educations in America, 90 00:06:38,732 --> 00:06:43,612 and I started learning stuff about the history of race in this country 91 00:06:43,696 --> 00:06:46,490 that I had never heard before. 92 00:06:46,574 --> 00:06:49,159 And I thought, "How could I not have known this? 93 00:06:49,243 --> 00:06:52,329 How could I not have been taught this?" 94 00:06:52,413 --> 00:06:54,790 And I started thinking, "If I don't know this, 95 00:06:54,873 --> 00:06:58,544 I wonder how many other people don't know." 96 00:07:12,516 --> 00:07:14,268 Slavery had nothing to do with the war. 97 00:07:15,102 --> 00:07:18,564 That was not the cause of the Southern states seceding. 98 00:07:18,647 --> 00:07:22,484 That was not the cause of the first shot being fired on that fort over there. 99 00:07:22,568 --> 00:07:23,694 It was about money. 100 00:07:24,653 --> 00:07:26,447 And it was not about slavery. 101 00:07:26,530 --> 00:07:29,491 It was about Morrill Tariffs. It was about more money. 102 00:07:29,575 --> 00:07:34,371 Lincoln wanted to impose 45% more taxes on the Southern states. 103 00:07:34,455 --> 00:07:37,666 Taxes on the goods the Southern states were producing. 104 00:07:37,750 --> 00:07:42,004 And those goods were, essentially, cotton, tobacco, and rice. 105 00:07:42,087 --> 00:07:43,005 Predominantly. 106 00:07:43,088 --> 00:07:44,548 And those goods... 107 00:07:45,424 --> 00:07:48,135 were produced by slave labor. 108 00:07:49,219 --> 00:07:50,054 All of it. 109 00:07:50,679 --> 00:07:51,764 Isn't that right? 110 00:07:51,847 --> 00:07:53,390 I mean... 111 00:07:53,474 --> 00:07:55,684 Ninety-five percent of it? 112 00:07:57,061 --> 00:07:58,354 Isn't that right? 113 00:07:58,854 --> 00:08:04,318 If it's 95% produced by slave labor, enslaved people... 114 00:08:05,527 --> 00:08:08,614 and the North is saying, "We're gonna tax you on that 115 00:08:08,697 --> 00:08:10,532 because we want some of that money," 116 00:08:10,616 --> 00:08:12,034 and the South is saying, 117 00:08:12,117 --> 00:08:13,827 "Wait a minute. We're the ones producing, 118 00:08:13,911 --> 00:08:15,871 so you shouldn't be taking the money,” 119 00:08:15,954 --> 00:08:18,624 that money wouldn't exist without slave labor. 120 00:08:18,707 --> 00:08:22,753 That did affect the bottom line, wouldn't you agree with that? 121 00:08:22,836 --> 00:08:24,546 They chose to stay. 122 00:08:24,630 --> 00:08:26,590 In most cases, in the South, 123 00:08:26,674 --> 00:08:30,344 that's the way it worked, because they were treated as family. 124 00:08:31,095 --> 00:08:32,554 And they knew what they had. 125 00:08:32,638 --> 00:08:35,724 They didn't know what they were being faced with if they left. 126 00:08:35,808 --> 00:08:40,312 So your view is that enslaved people were treated as family? 127 00:08:40,396 --> 00:08:42,940 Then why wouldn't it be all right for me to own you, 128 00:08:43,023 --> 00:08:45,401 as long as I treated you like family? 129 00:08:46,860 --> 00:08:48,821 If that's the way economics work. 130 00:08:50,447 --> 00:08:52,157 Would you be satisfied with that? 131 00:08:52,241 --> 00:08:54,618 -In today's world? -In any world. 132 00:08:54,702 --> 00:08:57,454 -In today's time? -At any time. 133 00:08:57,538 --> 00:08:58,372 No. 134 00:09:01,250 --> 00:09:02,876 So was slavery evil? 135 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,086 Yes. 136 00:09:05,003 --> 00:09:06,296 I'm not denying it. 137 00:09:06,380 --> 00:09:10,259 And this flag has nothing to do with that? 138 00:09:10,342 --> 00:09:11,176 No. 139 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:15,639 This was a soldier's battle flag. 140 00:09:18,392 --> 00:09:19,768 I think I need to-- 141 00:09:19,852 --> 00:09:24,148 I'm a little sick today, and so I'm just standing in the heat. 142 00:09:24,231 --> 00:09:26,108 Thank you for talking to me. I will say that. 143 00:09:26,191 --> 00:09:28,152 I appreciate that. 144 00:09:28,235 --> 00:09:30,320 -Thank you very much for talking to me. -Yes, Sir. 145 00:09:39,455 --> 00:09:41,331 I needed to walk away. 146 00:09:43,208 --> 00:09:49,089 I am definitely interested in engaging with people that don't agree. 147 00:09:49,173 --> 00:09:52,885 But it seemed like facts... 148 00:09:54,011 --> 00:09:57,014 were not that important to this gentleman. 149 00:09:57,097 --> 00:10:02,227 He knew that what he was saying made no sense whatsoever, 150 00:10:02,311 --> 00:10:04,646 but he believes it so deeply... 151 00:10:05,731 --> 00:10:07,900 that he's unwilling to let go of it. 152 00:10:10,110 --> 00:10:15,115 So I don't know if he can be reached. 153 00:10:16,575 --> 00:10:22,331 But I know that if no one tries, he definitely won't change. 154 00:10:34,510 --> 00:10:37,262 People aren't just good or bad. 155 00:10:37,346 --> 00:10:39,473 People are many things. 156 00:10:39,556 --> 00:10:43,268 Every person in this theater knows that's true, 157 00:10:43,352 --> 00:10:45,270 'cause every one of us has been 158 00:10:45,354 --> 00:10:48,899 a saint or a sinner at some times in our life. 159 00:10:48,982 --> 00:10:50,400 And you know what? 160 00:10:50,484 --> 00:10:53,320 Countries aren't just one thing either. 161 00:10:53,403 --> 00:10:55,030 They're many things. 162 00:10:55,113 --> 00:11:01,036 America has demonstrated its greatness time and time and time again. 163 00:11:01,119 --> 00:11:03,956 And America is one of the most racist countries 164 00:11:04,039 --> 00:11:05,541 on the face of the Earth. 165 00:11:05,624 --> 00:11:08,961 Those two things are not mutually exclusive. 166 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,089 It is not an either-or. 167 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,555 And the reason I'm asking us to think about this 168 00:11:19,638 --> 00:11:23,183 is that, literally, the future is at stake. 169 00:11:27,813 --> 00:11:30,023 Can I see a show of hands? 170 00:11:30,107 --> 00:11:33,694 How many people can see a triangle in the form on the board? 171 00:11:33,777 --> 00:11:35,362 Just throw your hands up. 172 00:11:35,445 --> 00:11:36,780 How about a circle? 173 00:11:38,198 --> 00:11:39,449 How about a star? 174 00:11:40,784 --> 00:11:42,244 The Star of David? 175 00:11:43,328 --> 00:11:45,998 You realize none of those shapes are on this screen? 176 00:11:46,081 --> 00:11:47,499 Not one of them. 177 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,251 Not one of them. 178 00:11:49,334 --> 00:11:53,297 But what your brain does is to fill in the gaps, 179 00:11:53,380 --> 00:11:55,173 so that the world makes sense. 180 00:11:55,257 --> 00:11:58,844 And we look at these shapes and we say, "I kind of recognize them." 181 00:11:58,927 --> 00:12:02,306 And so we fill in the gaps so the world makes sense. 182 00:12:02,389 --> 00:12:05,642 And that doesn't have any problem when you're doing something like this. 183 00:12:05,726 --> 00:12:10,898 But the thing is that we can fill in the gaps on all sorts of things, 184 00:12:10,981 --> 00:12:13,191 including our judgments about people. 185 00:12:13,275 --> 00:12:14,109 And sometimes, 186 00:12:14,192 --> 00:12:18,196 what we're filling in the gaps with comes from a really ugly place. 187 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:22,492 This is the only time tonight I'm going to ask you to do this. 188 00:12:22,576 --> 00:12:24,745 I want you to work with me, 189 00:12:24,828 --> 00:12:28,457 and I'm gonna ask you to, loudly and quickly, 190 00:12:28,540 --> 00:12:31,710 say the color, not the word. 191 00:12:31,793 --> 00:12:33,795 -Are we ready? -Yes. 192 00:12:33,879 --> 00:12:35,172 Ready? 193 00:12:35,255 --> 00:12:36,214 Go. 194 00:12:36,298 --> 00:12:40,177 Red, yellow, blue, green, brown. 195 00:12:40,260 --> 00:12:42,763 Blue, brown, red, yellow, green. 196 00:12:42,846 --> 00:12:43,764 Faster. 197 00:12:43,847 --> 00:12:46,725 Red, yellow, blue, green, brown. 198 00:12:46,808 --> 00:12:49,144 Blue, brown, red, yellow, green. 199 00:12:54,858 --> 00:12:59,404 This thing is 80 years old. 200 00:13:00,405 --> 00:13:04,159 And what it does is to simply demonstrate 201 00:13:04,242 --> 00:13:06,119 that you are making connections 202 00:13:06,203 --> 00:13:10,248 between the word and the color below your conscious level. 203 00:13:10,332 --> 00:13:12,542 You don't even know that you're doing it. 204 00:13:12,626 --> 00:13:15,295 And when that connection is broken, 205 00:13:15,379 --> 00:13:19,174 it actually takes just a little bit more time 206 00:13:19,257 --> 00:13:21,426 to get to the right answer. 207 00:13:21,510 --> 00:13:27,766 That is the heart of the science about unconscious bias. 208 00:13:27,849 --> 00:13:32,270 Whether it's unconscious bias or deliberate bias... 209 00:13:33,146 --> 00:13:37,526 the person experiencing it experiences exactly the same thing. 210 00:13:37,609 --> 00:13:41,113 If you don't get the job because a racist doesn't hire you, 211 00:13:41,196 --> 00:13:43,740 or because somebody has unconscious bias, 212 00:13:43,824 --> 00:13:45,450 you still don't have a job. 213 00:13:45,534 --> 00:13:50,580 If you get arrested because somebody had bias to call the police 214 00:13:50,664 --> 00:13:54,918 because someone Black is existing in space and they're nervous, 215 00:13:55,002 --> 00:13:57,379 whether it's unconscious or deliberate, 216 00:13:57,462 --> 00:14:00,590 you still have to deal with a law enforcement officer. 217 00:14:00,674 --> 00:14:03,010 The difference is meaningless 218 00:14:03,093 --> 00:14:07,806 when it is talking about the experience of the person who is victimized by it. 219 00:14:09,224 --> 00:14:13,061 I'm moving from D.C., I'm sweating right now. I'm in my apartment. 220 00:14:13,145 --> 00:14:14,563 But, you know... 221 00:14:15,063 --> 00:14:17,524 somebody called the cops on me in my own building. 222 00:14:17,607 --> 00:14:19,026 About-- How many of y'all? 223 00:14:20,444 --> 00:14:22,154 About six of y'all showed up. 224 00:14:23,155 --> 00:14:26,783 New at 5:00, a rude welcome to the neighborhood 225 00:14:26,867 --> 00:14:29,578 for a man on the Upper West Side. 226 00:14:29,661 --> 00:14:31,788 He was moving into his apartment building 227 00:14:31,872 --> 00:14:36,334 when a half-dozen NYPD officers suddenly showed up. 228 00:14:36,418 --> 00:14:40,297 Darren Martin streamed the encounter live on Instagram. 229 00:14:40,380 --> 00:14:43,050 He says one of his neighbors called the police 230 00:14:43,133 --> 00:14:45,594 thinking that he was actually breaking into the apartment. 231 00:14:45,677 --> 00:14:47,637 Even claiming that he had a weapon. 232 00:14:49,931 --> 00:14:53,518 -So this is 106th Street in Manhattan? -Yep. 233 00:14:53,602 --> 00:14:55,604 And on the night in question, 234 00:14:56,104 --> 00:14:58,815 looking at where this car is parked right here, 235 00:14:58,899 --> 00:15:00,317 is this where your U-Haul was? 236 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,279 Our U-Haul was parked right outside. Right over here where this car is. 237 00:15:04,362 --> 00:15:06,114 Right in front of the building. 238 00:15:06,198 --> 00:15:08,950 -And then, it looks like 56 is-- -Right over here, yeah. 239 00:15:09,034 --> 00:15:11,453 So this is the apartment that I was moving into. 240 00:15:11,536 --> 00:15:12,704 Yeah, this is it. 241 00:15:14,122 --> 00:15:17,834 And it's outside. It's a regular building. Looks like any other walk-up here. 242 00:15:17,918 --> 00:15:20,462 I don't know what those cops' intentions were when they came. 243 00:15:20,545 --> 00:15:22,422 They were looking for someone with a weapon. 244 00:15:23,673 --> 00:15:25,092 I could've been killed. 245 00:15:26,551 --> 00:15:29,137 -Can I go see my guy? Can I go upstairs? -Not right now. 246 00:15:29,221 --> 00:15:31,890 -Why not? Why can't I go anywhere? -We have to check it out. 247 00:15:31,973 --> 00:15:33,350 What's the problem? I live here. 248 00:15:33,433 --> 00:15:36,228 -We gotta do our investigation. -What are you investigating? 249 00:15:36,311 --> 00:15:37,604 Listen, they called, right? 250 00:15:37,687 --> 00:15:39,773 -We're doing our job. That's it. -Who called you? 251 00:15:39,856 --> 00:15:41,191 If you're doing nothing wrong-- 252 00:15:41,274 --> 00:15:43,360 -Who called you? -Someone called us. 253 00:15:44,069 --> 00:15:46,613 Well, I'm glad that this is nothing more 254 00:15:46,696 --> 00:15:49,825 than a cramped space in a hallway 255 00:15:49,908 --> 00:15:53,578 in an apartment building on 106th Street in New York, 256 00:15:53,662 --> 00:15:55,747 and not another landmark 257 00:15:55,831 --> 00:16:00,210 where another person from our community is killed by the police 258 00:16:00,293 --> 00:16:01,711 and we're asking why. 259 00:16:05,465 --> 00:16:08,677 The biases and prejudices 260 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,889 about race in America are so deep in our DNA 261 00:16:12,973 --> 00:16:17,185 that sometimes we don't even recognize that they're there. 262 00:16:18,145 --> 00:16:21,648 Take the Implicit Association Test, if you haven't taken it. 263 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,067 It's up on the Harvard website, 264 00:16:24,151 --> 00:16:28,905 and it tests your implicit or unconscious association on all kinds of things. 265 00:16:28,989 --> 00:16:31,783 On race, on gender, all kinds of things. 266 00:16:31,867 --> 00:16:34,661 And I was interested, as I was looking at all of this information, 267 00:16:34,744 --> 00:16:38,582 so I went and took it, and it made a mistake. 268 00:16:38,665 --> 00:16:40,292 So I had to take it again. 269 00:16:42,169 --> 00:16:46,089 Because, see, it gave these results and it's like, "That ain't me." 270 00:16:46,173 --> 00:16:47,883 So I took it again. 271 00:16:47,966 --> 00:16:50,302 And it had the same results. 272 00:16:50,385 --> 00:16:53,430 A negative impression of Black males. 273 00:16:54,264 --> 00:16:57,559 A negative impression of myself. 274 00:16:58,727 --> 00:17:01,646 And I thought, "Where did that come from?" 275 00:17:01,730 --> 00:17:08,737 I've had some good days 276 00:17:08,820 --> 00:17:10,363 I've had... 277 00:17:10,447 --> 00:17:11,948 All right, Betty Jo, where you at? 278 00:17:12,032 --> 00:17:16,286 Some hills to climb 279 00:17:16,369 --> 00:17:21,374 I've had some weary days 280 00:17:21,458 --> 00:17:24,419 And some sleepless nights... 281 00:17:24,502 --> 00:17:26,421 Well, he's got his hands up there for her now. 282 00:17:29,382 --> 00:17:31,092 This guy's still walking. 283 00:17:32,219 --> 00:17:33,887 He isn't following commands. 284 00:17:34,846 --> 00:17:36,640 Time for a Taser, I think. 285 00:17:38,475 --> 00:17:41,603 That looks like a bad dude too. May be on something. 286 00:17:42,437 --> 00:17:44,231 He may have just been Tasered. 287 00:17:44,898 --> 00:17:46,358 Shots fired! 288 00:17:47,734 --> 00:17:51,279 Twenty-one, we have shots fired. We have one suspect down. 289 00:17:54,741 --> 00:17:58,995 Sometimes clouds hang low 290 00:18:00,247 --> 00:18:06,419 I can hardly see the road 291 00:18:11,466 --> 00:18:15,428 Has your brother been misportrayed, in terms of who he was? 292 00:18:15,512 --> 00:18:17,514 Yes, he has. The narrative... 293 00:18:18,974 --> 00:18:22,519 started out as Terence being a suspect. 294 00:18:22,602 --> 00:18:25,063 Well, he was a student, not a suspect. 295 00:18:25,563 --> 00:18:28,233 Just left school 15 minutes earlier. 296 00:18:28,316 --> 00:18:30,944 Fifteen minutes later, he was dead. 297 00:18:32,612 --> 00:18:34,739 In the media, he was a thug. 298 00:18:34,823 --> 00:18:37,200 He was a criminal. He was a drug addict. 299 00:18:37,826 --> 00:18:40,245 -He was a bad dude. -Yes. 300 00:18:40,328 --> 00:18:42,998 Nobody ever humanized my brother. 301 00:18:43,081 --> 00:18:47,419 And I had to let America know who that bad dude was. 302 00:18:47,502 --> 00:18:48,712 That was my twin. 303 00:18:50,130 --> 00:18:51,298 He was a father. 304 00:18:53,091 --> 00:18:54,092 He was a son. 305 00:18:54,175 --> 00:18:57,387 He was a brother, an uncle, a cousin. 306 00:18:58,096 --> 00:18:59,514 He was a friend. 307 00:19:00,849 --> 00:19:02,892 He had a family who loved him. 308 00:19:04,436 --> 00:19:07,105 And my brother did not deserve to die, 309 00:19:07,605 --> 00:19:10,191 unarmed, with his hands in the air. 310 00:19:10,275 --> 00:19:15,739 Nobody deserves to die and take their last breath alone. 311 00:19:16,573 --> 00:19:18,533 He took his last breath alone. 312 00:19:19,743 --> 00:19:22,245 He laid in the street like an animal. 313 00:19:31,171 --> 00:19:34,924 George Orwell did not write about a year. 314 00:19:35,008 --> 00:19:37,802 He wrote about a mindset of oppression. 315 00:19:37,886 --> 00:19:42,098 And there are two things that he said that I would strive for each of us 316 00:19:42,182 --> 00:19:44,642 to please remember as we go forward. 317 00:19:44,726 --> 00:19:48,396 The first, "Who controls the past, controls the future. 318 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:51,608 And who controls the present, controls the past.” 319 00:19:51,691 --> 00:19:53,985 A government that is in power 320 00:19:54,069 --> 00:19:59,157 has the ability to shape the views of the population it governs 321 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:05,955 by putting out a narrative that sometimes has nothing to do with the truth. 322 00:20:08,208 --> 00:20:10,710 People don't realize, the Civil War-- 323 00:20:13,213 --> 00:20:16,508 -Yeah. -If you think about it, why? 324 00:20:16,591 --> 00:20:18,218 People don't ask that question. 325 00:20:18,301 --> 00:20:20,053 "But why was there the Civil War?" 326 00:20:20,136 --> 00:20:22,764 Why could that one not have been worked out? 327 00:20:22,847 --> 00:20:24,974 I mean, had Andrew Jackson been a little bit later, 328 00:20:25,058 --> 00:20:26,684 you wouldn't have had the Civil War. 329 00:20:26,768 --> 00:20:27,769 He was-- 330 00:20:28,603 --> 00:20:31,356 He was a very tough person, 331 00:20:31,439 --> 00:20:34,109 but he had a big heart and he was-- 332 00:20:34,943 --> 00:20:37,445 He was really angry... 333 00:20:38,196 --> 00:20:41,199 that he saw what was happening with regard to the Civil War. 334 00:20:41,282 --> 00:20:43,535 He said, "There's no reason for this." 335 00:20:45,370 --> 00:20:48,164 There are several things that are problematic there. 336 00:20:50,875 --> 00:20:56,297 The first is that Andrew Jackson died almost 16 years before the Civil War. 337 00:20:56,381 --> 00:21:00,885 The second is that if he had said, "There's no reason for this," 338 00:21:00,969 --> 00:21:03,638 it wouldn't have been because he was saying, 339 00:21:03,721 --> 00:21:06,224 "There's no reason to have slavery,” 340 00:21:06,307 --> 00:21:11,062 because Andrew Jackson had no problem with enslaving people. 341 00:21:11,146 --> 00:21:13,231 He was a slaver. 342 00:21:13,314 --> 00:21:19,779 And Andrew Jackson will tell you what he thinks about slavery himself. 343 00:21:19,863 --> 00:21:23,450 Andrew Jackson posted this ad offering a reward 344 00:21:23,533 --> 00:21:27,954 for the capture of an enslaved person who had escaped from him. 345 00:21:28,705 --> 00:21:34,377 And the ad describes the enslaved man, what he was wearing, where he might run, 346 00:21:34,461 --> 00:21:38,423 promises to pay all expenses involved in capturing him 347 00:21:38,506 --> 00:21:41,593 in addition to the $50 reward, 348 00:21:41,676 --> 00:21:48,141 and $10 extra for every hundred lashes any person will give him, 349 00:21:48,224 --> 00:21:50,810 to the amount of 300. 350 00:21:52,187 --> 00:21:56,149 That's who Andrew Jackson was. 351 00:21:56,232 --> 00:22:02,030 And that is who is on the face of our $20 bills. 352 00:22:03,573 --> 00:22:06,034 Countries aren't just one thing. 353 00:22:09,412 --> 00:22:12,790 They would sell enslaved people out of this location 354 00:22:12,874 --> 00:22:14,542 six days a week. 355 00:22:14,626 --> 00:22:19,297 Everyone from newborns to 70-year-olds were sold out of here. 356 00:22:20,965 --> 00:22:24,594 For enslaved people to make the most money 357 00:22:24,677 --> 00:22:27,805 for the traders and for the sellers, 358 00:22:27,889 --> 00:22:29,974 they have to be prepped first. 359 00:22:30,058 --> 00:22:35,855 Prep could be everything from high-fat and high-protein diets 360 00:22:35,939 --> 00:22:38,274 to get them into better physical shape, 361 00:22:38,358 --> 00:22:40,818 as well as, you know, fresh clothing. 362 00:22:40,902 --> 00:22:44,364 You have this sort of prepping of the skin through oiling. 363 00:22:44,447 --> 00:22:46,282 If they're looking a little bit older, 364 00:22:46,366 --> 00:22:48,785 they could either dye the hair 365 00:22:48,868 --> 00:22:51,287 or pluck any grays that someone would have, 366 00:22:51,371 --> 00:22:55,333 things of that nature, in order to, when they come up onto the block, 367 00:22:55,416 --> 00:22:58,836 they're able to garner the largest amount of money. 368 00:23:00,505 --> 00:23:03,800 And I'm looking at, here, a "List of Negroes." 369 00:23:03,883 --> 00:23:09,264 And it says, number one, the name is Sunday, the age is 45. 370 00:23:09,347 --> 00:23:12,308 Enslaved people, they didn't have last names, 371 00:23:12,392 --> 00:23:15,562 generally, until the 1870 Census. 372 00:23:16,854 --> 00:23:20,066 And so it was the question of, "What is your name?" 373 00:23:21,526 --> 00:23:24,279 Because the names could be changed each time you were sold? 374 00:23:24,362 --> 00:23:25,697 They would be changed. 375 00:23:25,780 --> 00:23:28,533 That's the first thing that is changed every time you're sold. 376 00:23:28,616 --> 00:23:30,994 So on all broadsides you will ever see, 377 00:23:31,077 --> 00:23:33,121 this is just the name they come to the sale with. 378 00:23:33,204 --> 00:23:37,000 And keep in mind that the enslaved property of slave owners 379 00:23:37,083 --> 00:23:39,544 was worth more than everything else they owned. 380 00:23:39,627 --> 00:23:41,629 It was worth more than the plantation. 381 00:23:41,713 --> 00:23:43,089 It was worth more than the land. 382 00:23:43,172 --> 00:23:45,550 More than the goods that are produced on that plantation. 383 00:23:45,633 --> 00:23:46,509 More than the house. 384 00:23:46,593 --> 00:23:49,137 More than any other liveries that they have. 385 00:23:49,220 --> 00:23:54,934 So the first thing that's going to be sold to pay for a debt is your enslaved. 386 00:23:55,018 --> 00:23:56,894 Because you didn't have to buy them outright. 387 00:23:57,562 --> 00:23:58,896 You could mortgage them. 388 00:24:01,524 --> 00:24:04,861 When it came to movement of enslaved, 389 00:24:04,944 --> 00:24:09,157 prior to being brought onto that block, they're going to be chained. 390 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,409 Now, everyone's going to be chained. 391 00:24:11,492 --> 00:24:13,411 It's not just going to be grown-ups. 392 00:24:13,494 --> 00:24:16,456 It's not going to be the elderly. It'll also be the children. 393 00:24:16,956 --> 00:24:20,376 And so I think what I'm looking at are shackles 394 00:24:20,460 --> 00:24:23,796 that were designed for an adult male, 395 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:29,761 and shackles that were designed for a child of maybe 3 or 4. 396 00:24:29,844 --> 00:24:31,137 Yes. Yes. 397 00:24:38,394 --> 00:24:39,520 Ista... 398 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,773 what are... 399 00:24:44,150 --> 00:24:49,739 the three holes that I see in these bricks in the walls there? 400 00:24:49,822 --> 00:24:51,115 They're fingerprints. 401 00:24:52,408 --> 00:24:56,329 Enslaved people would begin to learn a skill at the age of about 6. 402 00:24:56,412 --> 00:24:59,832 And so fingerprints and hand prints and thumbprints 403 00:24:59,916 --> 00:25:02,293 exist all throughout the city, 404 00:25:02,377 --> 00:25:04,837 because enslaved people built the city. 405 00:25:05,588 --> 00:25:09,717 And so on churches, on businesses, on-- 406 00:25:09,801 --> 00:25:11,678 In alleyways, you see these. 407 00:25:11,761 --> 00:25:14,847 In theaters, you see these all throughout the city 408 00:25:14,931 --> 00:25:16,474 in very, very subtle ways. 409 00:25:16,557 --> 00:25:19,394 And if you don't know what you're looking for, you may not see them. 410 00:25:19,894 --> 00:25:20,978 But they're there. 411 00:25:21,062 --> 00:25:26,901 Absolutely, and they are a way of the enslaved who created this city 412 00:25:26,984 --> 00:25:29,862 and created the economy that created this country 413 00:25:29,946 --> 00:25:32,865 to remind us, "Hey, I was here too." 414 00:25:45,002 --> 00:25:46,879 And so if I make the statement to you: 415 00:25:46,963 --> 00:25:51,259 "America was founded on white supremacy." 416 00:25:52,009 --> 00:25:55,263 You could say, "Jeff, that's an extreme statement.” 417 00:25:55,346 --> 00:25:59,726 And what I would say to you is, "Don't believe a word I say about it. 418 00:25:59,809 --> 00:26:03,312 Just listen to what Americans said." 419 00:26:03,396 --> 00:26:07,275 Because they were willing to tell you exactly what they thought. 420 00:26:07,358 --> 00:26:09,485 All you have to do is go look. 421 00:26:09,569 --> 00:26:13,990 We know that in 1619, 20-and-odd enslaved people 422 00:26:14,073 --> 00:26:17,326 were brought to America, landed in Jamestown. 423 00:26:18,453 --> 00:26:22,039 And by 1636, less than 20 years later, 424 00:26:22,123 --> 00:26:27,754 we launched the first American-made slave ship, the Desire. 425 00:26:27,837 --> 00:26:30,506 And it wasn't built in Alabama or Mississippi. 426 00:26:30,590 --> 00:26:33,134 It was built in Massachusetts. 427 00:26:33,217 --> 00:26:36,637 And look at the name of the ship. The Desire. 428 00:26:36,721 --> 00:26:41,017 And the names of the three subsequent ships built in America 429 00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:44,312 to go to Africa to get enslaved people. 430 00:26:44,395 --> 00:26:48,441 The Fortune, the Hope and the Prosperity. 431 00:26:48,524 --> 00:26:52,570 They are telling you with language that is crystal clear 432 00:26:52,653 --> 00:26:56,282 what they think about the concept of white supremacy. 433 00:26:56,365 --> 00:26:59,285 In 1662, Virginia passed a law that said, 434 00:26:59,368 --> 00:27:02,371 "Children of enslaved mothers are also enslaved." 435 00:27:02,455 --> 00:27:03,539 Very simple law. 436 00:27:03,623 --> 00:27:04,874 Why did they need it? 437 00:27:04,957 --> 00:27:08,461 Because it was clear that white slave masters 438 00:27:08,544 --> 00:27:13,841 were raping Black women on a normal and regular basis, 439 00:27:13,925 --> 00:27:16,302 and these rapes were producing children. 440 00:27:16,385 --> 00:27:19,347 And the law just wanted to say, "We don't want there to be any mistake. 441 00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:22,225 If those babies come out with blue eyes or freckles, 442 00:27:22,308 --> 00:27:26,145 those aren't people, those are enslaved people.” 443 00:27:26,896 --> 00:27:28,815 The law made sure to know that. 444 00:27:28,898 --> 00:27:32,985 Virginia then passed a law saying, "If slaves become Christians, 445 00:27:33,069 --> 00:27:34,821 that doesn't mean that they're freed." 446 00:27:34,904 --> 00:27:38,699 Because you become a Christian if you are enslaved 447 00:27:38,783 --> 00:27:43,204 only by the charity and piety of your owner. 448 00:27:43,287 --> 00:27:47,667 This is the language that Americans were using 449 00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:50,127 to describe the institution of slavery. 450 00:27:50,211 --> 00:27:53,631 They equated it with charity and piety. 451 00:27:53,714 --> 00:27:56,509 1669, Virginia passed a law, 452 00:27:56,592 --> 00:28:01,931 "An enslaved person's death while resisting a master is not a felony." 453 00:28:02,014 --> 00:28:04,559 Would you look at those words, please? 454 00:28:04,642 --> 00:28:08,396 And think about the videos you have seen in the past ten years 455 00:28:08,479 --> 00:28:14,485 of Black and brown people ending up dead in altercations with police officers 456 00:28:14,569 --> 00:28:16,612 when they are unarmed? 457 00:28:16,696 --> 00:28:18,739 It's still not a felony. 458 00:28:21,409 --> 00:28:25,830 In 1739, there was a slave revolt in Stono, South Carolina, 459 00:28:25,913 --> 00:28:27,582 that was incredibly violent. 460 00:28:27,665 --> 00:28:30,585 There were some white people that were actually beheaded. 461 00:28:30,668 --> 00:28:34,797 And the state of South Carolina responded, and they responded quickly. 462 00:28:34,881 --> 00:28:39,886 By 1740, they had passed a 58-chapter law, 463 00:28:39,969 --> 00:28:43,973 and the purpose of that law, in their words, not mine, 464 00:28:44,056 --> 00:28:49,604 "So that the slave may be kept in due subjugation and obedience."” 465 00:28:51,522 --> 00:28:56,110 This wasn't just social racism or individual racism. 466 00:28:56,193 --> 00:28:59,739 This was the law inscribing this. 467 00:29:02,450 --> 00:29:06,621 Can you talk just a little bit about where you're taking us? 468 00:29:06,704 --> 00:29:09,999 I'm taking you on Ashley Avenue 469 00:29:10,082 --> 00:29:14,295 between Fishburne and Line Streets. 470 00:29:15,755 --> 00:29:18,633 Now, the neighborhood didn't look like it looks today. 471 00:29:18,716 --> 00:29:21,218 It was a lot of farmland and some wooded area. 472 00:29:26,724 --> 00:29:30,603 Some people just refer to it as the Ashley Avenue Oak. 473 00:29:33,689 --> 00:29:38,110 Lynchings or hangings took place here on this very spot. 474 00:29:41,864 --> 00:29:46,827 This happened from slavery, it happened all the way up until the early 1900s. 475 00:29:46,911 --> 00:29:50,623 So there were lynchings here even after the Civil War ended? 476 00:29:50,706 --> 00:29:51,832 Absolutely. 477 00:29:57,797 --> 00:30:00,716 Well, everybody needs to know what happened here 478 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,802 so that we would all be able to learn from it. 479 00:30:02,885 --> 00:30:04,553 Because it's a part of our history. 480 00:30:05,346 --> 00:30:06,597 American history. 481 00:30:19,735 --> 00:30:23,322 The word "slavery” appears once in the Constitution. 482 00:30:23,406 --> 00:30:27,201 That's in the 13th Amendment, outlawing slavery. 483 00:30:27,284 --> 00:30:29,286 And if you go back to the historical documents, 484 00:30:29,370 --> 00:30:32,289 what you'll see is that the Southern states would get upset 485 00:30:32,373 --> 00:30:34,375 when the word "slavery" was used. 486 00:30:34,458 --> 00:30:38,629 And for God's sakes, we don't wanna make white people uncomfortable. 487 00:30:38,713 --> 00:30:42,216 So the Northerners said, "Don't worry, we won't use the word 'slavery' 488 00:30:42,299 --> 00:30:44,176 when we go to the Constitution. 489 00:30:44,260 --> 00:30:48,097 We'll call them things like 'such persons." 490 00:30:48,889 --> 00:30:53,269 The Three-fifths Clause in Article I, Section 2 of the Constitution. 491 00:30:53,352 --> 00:30:57,523 All those Black folks in Virginia, 236,0007 492 00:30:57,606 --> 00:31:00,526 Well, they will be counted as three-fifths of a person. 493 00:31:00,609 --> 00:31:01,944 Each one of them. 494 00:31:02,028 --> 00:31:08,534 Article I, Section 9, no ban on migration or importations of such persons 495 00:31:08,617 --> 00:31:09,869 until 1808. 496 00:31:09,952 --> 00:31:11,203 What are they saying? 497 00:31:11,287 --> 00:31:14,874 "We have built all of these ships to go get enslaved people, 498 00:31:14,957 --> 00:31:18,085 and we need at least about 20 years to keep doing it." 499 00:31:18,169 --> 00:31:19,712 So the Constitution says, 500 00:31:19,795 --> 00:31:22,465 "You can keep doing it for the next 20 years." 501 00:31:22,548 --> 00:31:24,050 Article ll, Section 1. 502 00:31:24,133 --> 00:31:26,135 "Each state shall appoint a number of electors 503 00:31:26,218 --> 00:31:29,513 equal to the number of senators and representatives.” 504 00:31:29,597 --> 00:31:33,434 What we are talking about, folks, is the Electoral College. 505 00:31:33,517 --> 00:31:36,437 The Electoral College was based on the fact 506 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,981 that the Southern states were concerned 507 00:31:39,065 --> 00:31:40,900 about the power that they would have 508 00:31:40,983 --> 00:31:45,654 to prevent the government from taking the enslaved people from them. 509 00:31:45,738 --> 00:31:47,865 And this was one of the compromises. 510 00:31:47,948 --> 00:31:50,034 That Three-fifths Clause? 511 00:31:50,117 --> 00:31:54,914 Three-fifths of 236,000 adds a lot of delegates. 512 00:31:56,791 --> 00:31:59,585 Article IV, Section 2, no freedom for a runaway, 513 00:31:59,668 --> 00:32:02,296 because slaves have to be returned to owners on demand. 514 00:32:02,379 --> 00:32:06,675 And people have said that the folks who wrote our Constitution were brilliant. 515 00:32:06,759 --> 00:32:08,094 And I agree with that. 516 00:32:08,177 --> 00:32:10,346 They were brilliant and they were sneaky too. 517 00:32:10,429 --> 00:32:15,434 Because they said, "You know, somebody may try and amend the Constitution 518 00:32:15,518 --> 00:32:18,104 and get rid of Article I, Section 9. 519 00:32:18,187 --> 00:32:22,399 So in Article V, they said "You can't amend Article I, Section 9, 520 00:32:22,483 --> 00:32:23,776 until 1808." 521 00:32:23,859 --> 00:32:28,906 This is how important the concept of white supremacy 522 00:32:28,989 --> 00:32:31,992 was to the people that founded the country. 523 00:32:32,076 --> 00:32:35,955 When they were talking about life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, 524 00:32:36,038 --> 00:32:39,959 they saw that as being completely consistent 525 00:32:40,042 --> 00:32:42,920 with enslaving people. 526 00:32:44,463 --> 00:32:46,006 The law picked a side. 527 00:32:49,593 --> 00:32:52,763 If you read the historians, they will tell you 528 00:32:52,847 --> 00:32:57,476 that modern-day police departments were originally formed, 529 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,688 especially in the South, in slave patrols. 530 00:33:00,771 --> 00:33:03,524 I am not saying that modern-day police officers 531 00:33:03,607 --> 00:33:05,484 are members of a slave patrol. 532 00:33:05,568 --> 00:33:06,694 They are not. 533 00:33:06,777 --> 00:33:10,364 There are law enforcement officers all over America 534 00:33:10,447 --> 00:33:13,826 who are fighting for racial justice 535 00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:18,664 and Constitutional and decent policing in our communities. 536 00:33:18,747 --> 00:33:20,291 But I will tell you this: 537 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,501 People in my community, 538 00:33:22,585 --> 00:33:26,338 from my great-great-great grandfathers on down, 539 00:33:26,422 --> 00:33:29,508 have had a reason to fear that badge. 540 00:33:29,592 --> 00:33:31,093 Because the people wearing it, 541 00:33:31,177 --> 00:33:33,679 and the weapons and guns that they carried, 542 00:33:33,762 --> 00:33:36,891 were used to oppress us. 543 00:33:36,974 --> 00:33:38,809 So the next time you're wondering, 544 00:33:38,893 --> 00:33:43,147 "Why is there such animosity in the Black community 545 00:33:43,230 --> 00:33:44,815 when it comes to policing? 546 00:33:44,899 --> 00:33:46,317 Why is there such concern?” 547 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,444 It's in our DNA. 548 00:33:51,488 --> 00:33:53,490 I always used to tell Eric, 549 00:33:53,574 --> 00:33:58,621 you know, "Don't have any interactions with the police officers. 550 00:33:58,704 --> 00:34:01,582 Because the police officers, they have the upper hand. 551 00:34:01,665 --> 00:34:04,001 You have to remember, they're the ones with the guns. 552 00:34:04,126 --> 00:34:08,380 They're the ones that could arrest you, and no matter what you say." 553 00:34:08,464 --> 00:34:11,342 So he would say, "Oh, yeah, I know, Ma." 554 00:34:11,842 --> 00:34:14,678 And even with all the talk, 555 00:34:14,762 --> 00:34:19,058 we can talk to our children as much as we want, 556 00:34:19,141 --> 00:34:25,522 it's not always gonna be a good turnout when things like this happen. 557 00:34:26,690 --> 00:34:27,900 That's Eric. 558 00:34:27,983 --> 00:34:32,738 Eric is, I think, five months old in that picture, if that old. 559 00:34:33,906 --> 00:34:35,699 He was my first-born. 560 00:34:37,785 --> 00:34:41,538 Eric was a gentle giant. 561 00:34:41,622 --> 00:34:44,583 He was a person who cared about other people 562 00:34:44,667 --> 00:34:47,378 and who thought everyone was his friend. 563 00:34:47,461 --> 00:34:48,462 Are you serious? 564 00:34:53,384 --> 00:34:55,219 If you can share it... 565 00:34:56,929 --> 00:35:01,183 what was going through your mind as you heard your son saying, 566 00:35:01,267 --> 00:35:02,559 "I can't breathe"? 567 00:35:03,185 --> 00:35:08,482 Until now, I cannot look at that video in its entirety, 568 00:35:08,565 --> 00:35:10,818 because when I seen it for the first time, 569 00:35:10,901 --> 00:35:14,530 I remember me going through this house banging on walls, 570 00:35:14,613 --> 00:35:19,034 yelling at the police officers, "Let him go! Let him go!" 571 00:35:19,118 --> 00:35:22,121 Now [ could see exactly what they did to him. 572 00:35:22,204 --> 00:35:23,539 Do not touch me. 573 00:35:23,622 --> 00:35:29,336 When this tragedy happened to me, I just wanted to take to my bed, 574 00:35:30,254 --> 00:35:31,839 and just go to sleep, 575 00:35:31,922 --> 00:35:35,843 and just wake up when this terrible nightmare was over. 576 00:35:37,177 --> 00:35:39,138 But it was never over. 577 00:35:39,221 --> 00:35:45,519 And the Holy Spirit spoke to me one evening and says, 578 00:35:45,602 --> 00:35:49,315 "Are you gonna lay there and die like your son? 579 00:35:49,398 --> 00:35:53,193 Or are you gonna get up, lift up his name, 580 00:35:53,277 --> 00:36:00,200 and let people know exactly who he was and not let the media demonize him?" 581 00:36:00,284 --> 00:36:03,787 My son will not have died in vain. 582 00:36:03,871 --> 00:36:06,540 We are gonna support him every step of the way. 583 00:36:06,623 --> 00:36:09,793 Me and my grandchildren, my nieces, nephews, sisters, 584 00:36:09,877 --> 00:36:13,672 everybody is going to support this cause, 585 00:36:13,756 --> 00:36:16,717 "cause we won't rest until we get justice. 586 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:22,389 Even though it's too late for my son, we have to save other lives. 587 00:36:23,724 --> 00:36:26,477 How would you like your son to be remembered? 588 00:36:27,561 --> 00:36:30,898 Well, I would like my son to be remembered as 589 00:36:30,981 --> 00:36:37,071 the sacrificial lamb, that everyone knows his name now. 590 00:36:37,154 --> 00:36:41,575 And I am so glad that it is making a difference, 591 00:36:41,658 --> 00:36:45,454 that people are more aware of the cruelty 592 00:36:45,537 --> 00:36:49,124 and the injustice that's going on with people of color, 593 00:36:49,208 --> 00:36:53,629 and maybe they will stand up and take notice, and say, 594 00:36:53,712 --> 00:36:56,507 "Well, hey, we have to do something about this." 595 00:36:59,385 --> 00:37:00,469 This is real. 596 00:37:00,552 --> 00:37:03,555 We see what's actually going on in this world today. 597 00:37:04,515 --> 00:37:10,312 And I'm just hoping that his name will live on in history forever. 598 00:37:10,396 --> 00:37:14,400 And as long as I live, I will always say his name, 599 00:37:14,483 --> 00:37:17,694 and I will ask everyone else to please say his name, 600 00:37:17,778 --> 00:37:21,073 and tell people what does it mean to them. 601 00:37:22,199 --> 00:37:24,493 -His name was Eric Garner. -Yes. 602 00:37:24,576 --> 00:37:27,830 Eric Garner was his name. Is his name. 603 00:37:31,834 --> 00:37:36,338 A home and country 604 00:37:36,422 --> 00:37:41,301 Should leave us no more 605 00:37:41,385 --> 00:37:45,722 Their blood has washed out 606 00:37:45,806 --> 00:37:51,270 Their foul footsteps' pollution 607 00:37:51,353 --> 00:37:56,316 No refuge could save 608 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,612 The hireling and slave 609 00:38:00,696 --> 00:38:05,367 From the terror of flight 610 00:38:05,451 --> 00:38:10,289 Or the gloom of the grave 611 00:38:10,372 --> 00:38:15,210 And the star-spangled banner 612 00:38:15,294 --> 00:38:21,425 In triumph doth wave... 613 00:38:21,508 --> 00:38:23,927 In case you doubt the lyrics to the third verse 614 00:38:24,011 --> 00:38:26,180 of the national anthem that you just heard, 615 00:38:26,263 --> 00:38:30,058 these are the handwritten lyrics from Francis Scott Key. 616 00:38:30,142 --> 00:38:35,564 "No refuge could save the hireling and slave from the terror of flight, 617 00:38:35,647 --> 00:38:38,066 or the gloom of the grave." 618 00:38:38,150 --> 00:38:42,529 He is celebrating the murder of enslaved people. 619 00:38:42,613 --> 00:38:44,198 And why would he do that? 620 00:38:44,281 --> 00:38:46,575 He was the wealthy owner of enslaved people. 621 00:38:46,658 --> 00:38:49,119 He came from a Maryland plantation-owning family. 622 00:38:49,203 --> 00:38:52,247 In United States v. Reuben Crandall, 623 00:38:52,331 --> 00:38:56,543 he prosecuted a man for possessing abolitionist literature. 624 00:38:56,627 --> 00:38:59,505 He was the city prosecutor in Washington, D.C., 625 00:38:59,588 --> 00:39:02,090 and he sought the death penalty. 626 00:39:02,174 --> 00:39:04,218 And here is his closing argument. 627 00:39:04,301 --> 00:39:07,930 "Are you willing, gentlemen, to abandon your country, 628 00:39:08,013 --> 00:39:12,476 to permit it to be taken from you and occupied by the abolitionist, 629 00:39:12,559 --> 00:39:18,815 according to whose taste it is to associate and amalgamate with the Negro?" 630 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:25,364 I guess he wrote a nice poem, but that's who Francis Scott Key is. 631 00:39:28,242 --> 00:39:32,704 By 1835, cotton from enslaved people's labor, 632 00:39:32,788 --> 00:39:36,041 55% of U.♪. exports. 633 00:39:36,124 --> 00:39:39,753 So when we see America starting to become industrialized, 634 00:39:39,836 --> 00:39:44,383 we see that cotton from the labor of enslaved people 635 00:39:44,466 --> 00:39:46,760 was a critical part of this. 636 00:39:46,843 --> 00:39:50,639 Twelve U.♪. presidents owned enslaved people. 637 00:39:50,722 --> 00:39:54,518 This covered about 50 of America's first 60 years, 638 00:39:54,601 --> 00:39:56,645 and that's why I am saying to you, 639 00:39:56,728 --> 00:40:01,024 the people that founded this country had no problem with white supremacy. 640 00:40:01,108 --> 00:40:06,697 They depended on it to make America a great nation. 641 00:40:12,077 --> 00:40:14,663 So when did slavery end in New York? 642 00:40:14,746 --> 00:40:18,458 Slavery in New York ended in 1827, 643 00:40:18,542 --> 00:40:22,796 but to really understand New York's rise, 644 00:40:22,879 --> 00:40:25,799 in terms of becoming a financial powerhouse, 645 00:40:25,882 --> 00:40:29,636 it's important to understand the connection between New York 646 00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:36,727 and enslavement, even after slavery was abolished in New York City. 647 00:40:38,353 --> 00:40:43,025 The building behind us is the Cotton Exchange, established in the 1850s, 648 00:40:43,108 --> 00:40:47,779 one of the greatest commodities exchanges in the country. 649 00:40:47,863 --> 00:40:53,994 New York was a center for finance, is still the center for finance, 650 00:40:54,077 --> 00:40:57,205 and this is where slaveholders would come 651 00:40:57,289 --> 00:41:00,626 to get all their endeavors financed and insured. 652 00:41:00,709 --> 00:41:06,256 We found out recently that major insurers like AIG and Aetna 653 00:41:06,340 --> 00:41:09,760 insured enslaved people as goods. 654 00:41:09,843 --> 00:41:15,932 Enslaved people who died en route during the Middle Passage, 655 00:41:16,016 --> 00:41:18,685 enslaved people who died on the plantation, 656 00:41:18,769 --> 00:41:21,605 all those people, with their lives, were insured. 657 00:41:21,688 --> 00:41:23,690 So they have life insurance policies. 658 00:41:23,774 --> 00:41:28,236 Also, major investment banks, like the now-defunct Lehman Brothers, 659 00:41:28,862 --> 00:41:32,949 provided financing for slaveholders. 660 00:41:33,784 --> 00:41:37,412 So the economy of New York was entwined with slavery. 661 00:41:39,706 --> 00:41:44,711 We're walking up just from the waterfront, right back here, about a block away, 662 00:41:44,795 --> 00:41:50,258 and as we're coming to the corner of Water and Wall Streets, 663 00:41:50,342 --> 00:41:52,010 there is this little park. 664 00:41:59,059 --> 00:42:02,813 I have an idea in my mind when you say "slave market." 665 00:42:02,896 --> 00:42:07,776 But can you just tell us, explicitly, what was happening on this site? 666 00:42:07,859 --> 00:42:10,195 So there was a municipal market, a pavilion, 667 00:42:10,278 --> 00:42:14,282 that operated from 1711 until 1762. 668 00:42:14,366 --> 00:42:19,705 By the mid-1700s, one in five New Yorkers were enslaved. 669 00:42:19,788 --> 00:42:21,498 So they created this municipal market, 670 00:42:21,581 --> 00:42:24,334 where once you were kidnapped and brought here, 671 00:42:24,418 --> 00:42:26,628 you would be sold at this pavilion. 672 00:42:27,379 --> 00:42:30,006 In addition, if you were already enslaved in New York, 673 00:42:30,090 --> 00:42:33,135 and your slaveholder didn't have something for you to do during the day, 674 00:42:33,218 --> 00:42:37,556 you could be rented out for the day at this market. 675 00:42:37,639 --> 00:42:41,143 Like any other transaction that might occur in the city 676 00:42:41,226 --> 00:42:44,104 where the city would impose a tax to get revenue, 677 00:42:44,187 --> 00:42:47,566 the slave trade was just another thing to be taxed? 678 00:42:47,649 --> 00:42:50,861 Exactly. And that's why New York City was such a pro-slavery city. 679 00:42:50,944 --> 00:42:52,904 When we say that to people, they're shocked. 680 00:42:52,988 --> 00:42:55,449 New York was pro-slavery. 681 00:42:55,532 --> 00:42:59,369 New York received, from cotton alone, 682 00:42:59,453 --> 00:43:02,914 $200 million in that time's currency. 683 00:43:02,998 --> 00:43:07,794 So if you could imagine the interests that would wanna protect that. 684 00:43:10,630 --> 00:43:14,176 How many of you knew that the mayor of New York City 685 00:43:14,259 --> 00:43:18,680 advocated that New York leave the Union during the Civil War? 686 00:43:19,347 --> 00:43:21,475 He didn't say, "Join the Confederacy." 687 00:43:21,558 --> 00:43:25,353 What he said was, "With our aggrieved brethren of the slave states, 688 00:43:25,437 --> 00:43:28,315 we have friendly relations and a common sympathy. 689 00:43:28,398 --> 00:43:33,487 We have not participated in the warfare upon their Constitutional rights 690 00:43:33,570 --> 00:43:35,530 or their domestic institutions." 691 00:43:35,614 --> 00:43:38,325 He was saying, "We can't give this up. 692 00:43:38,408 --> 00:43:41,369 If we withdraw from the Union, we don't have to join the South. 693 00:43:41,453 --> 00:43:45,415 We can make business deals with the North, and business deals with the South. 694 00:43:45,499 --> 00:43:47,959 The money will keep coming in." 695 00:43:49,711 --> 00:43:54,591 So, what was the role of slavery in America on the eve of the Civil War? 696 00:43:54,674 --> 00:44:00,222 Well, that yearly cotton production, 1.5 million pounds in 1790, 697 00:44:00,305 --> 00:44:06,645 try 2.3 billion pounds, 60% of U.♪. exports by 1860. 698 00:44:06,728 --> 00:44:12,108 If any of you have ever held a ball of freshly picked cotton in your hand, 699 00:44:12,192 --> 00:44:14,528 with no stems or no sticks on it, 700 00:44:14,611 --> 00:44:18,448 you will know that it weighs virtually nothing. 701 00:44:19,115 --> 00:44:21,910 How much of that do you think you had to pick 702 00:44:21,993 --> 00:44:25,705 to get to 2.3 billion pounds of it? 703 00:44:25,789 --> 00:44:26,957 And how did they do that? 704 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,544 Because the number of enslaved people wasn't 700,000 anymore. 705 00:44:30,627 --> 00:44:32,420 It was 4 million. 706 00:44:32,963 --> 00:44:38,510 And remember, we're not bringing over people on slave ships after 1808. 707 00:44:38,593 --> 00:44:41,346 Now, history will show there were definitely ships 708 00:44:41,429 --> 00:44:47,102 of enslaved people brought after 1808, but that market dried up very quickly. 709 00:44:47,185 --> 00:44:50,897 This was done by breeding. 710 00:44:51,606 --> 00:44:54,150 Black women were bred... 711 00:44:55,527 --> 00:44:57,821 so that they would bear children 712 00:44:57,904 --> 00:45:01,658 who could continue American cotton production. 713 00:45:05,328 --> 00:45:09,040 The value of enslaved people, in 1860 dollars, 714 00:45:09,124 --> 00:45:12,544 $3.5 billion dollars. 715 00:45:13,378 --> 00:45:17,632 One hundred billion dollars in today's money. 716 00:45:18,717 --> 00:45:21,595 More millionaires per cap it a in the Mississippi Valley, 717 00:45:21,678 --> 00:45:23,763 that's Tennessee, Mississippi, and Louisiana, 718 00:45:23,847 --> 00:45:25,640 than any place else in America. 719 00:45:25,724 --> 00:45:30,145 Today, that is one of the poorest sections in the country. 720 00:45:30,228 --> 00:45:34,399 There are all kinds of people who are desperate to make arguments 721 00:45:34,482 --> 00:45:38,486 that the Civil War was about something other than slavery. 722 00:45:38,570 --> 00:45:43,950 In the state of Texas, elected officials are trying to pass laws 723 00:45:44,034 --> 00:45:48,288 that will require their school teachers to teach that slavery 724 00:45:48,371 --> 00:45:51,458 was a side issue in the Civil War. 725 00:45:52,667 --> 00:45:56,421 And my response to that is, once again, don't believe me. 726 00:45:56,504 --> 00:46:00,050 Just go back and look at what the states said. 727 00:46:00,133 --> 00:46:05,013 "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery, 728 00:46:05,096 --> 00:46:08,224 the greatest material interest of the world." 729 00:46:08,308 --> 00:46:13,480 "The people of the slave holding states are bound together by the same necessity 730 00:46:13,563 --> 00:46:17,525 and determination to preserve African slavery."” 731 00:46:17,609 --> 00:46:21,196 "That the servitude of the African race, as existing in these states, 732 00:46:21,279 --> 00:46:25,617 is mutually beneficial to both bond and free." 733 00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:29,412 "The election of Mr. Lincoln cannot be regarded otherwise 734 00:46:29,496 --> 00:46:31,206 than a solemn declaration 735 00:46:31,289 --> 00:46:34,668 on the part of a great majority of the Northern people 736 00:46:34,751 --> 00:46:39,381 of hostility to the South, her property, and her institutions.” 737 00:46:39,464 --> 00:46:42,592 "They have endeavored to weaken our security, 738 00:46:42,676 --> 00:46:46,054 to disturb our domestic peace and tranquility, 739 00:46:46,137 --> 00:46:48,932 and persistently refused to comply 740 00:46:49,015 --> 00:46:53,144 with their express Constitutional obligations to us, 741 00:46:53,228 --> 00:46:55,438 in reference to that property.” 742 00:46:55,939 --> 00:47:00,694 Georgia was essentially saying, "You freaking lied to us. 743 00:47:00,777 --> 00:47:04,489 You told us that we could keep these people as enslaved people, 744 00:47:04,572 --> 00:47:06,616 and now you're taking them away from us, 745 00:47:06,700 --> 00:47:08,785 and we're leaving the Union because of it." 746 00:47:08,868 --> 00:47:11,037 And you know what? Georgia was right. 747 00:47:11,579 --> 00:47:16,209 They were promised that they would get to keep people as enslaved people. 748 00:47:16,835 --> 00:47:21,047 I'm from the state of Tennessee, and if I wanna go to my home state, 749 00:47:21,131 --> 00:47:25,760 and walk into the Tennessee statehouse to see one of my state legislators, 750 00:47:25,844 --> 00:47:29,681 I gotta walk past this guy, Nathan Bedford Forrest, 751 00:47:29,764 --> 00:47:34,394 who was either the originator of the KKK, or one of its first Grand Wizards, 752 00:47:34,477 --> 00:47:40,233 somebody that was clearly involved with the KKK coming to a height of power, 753 00:47:40,316 --> 00:47:43,028 somebody that was a Confederate soldier, 754 00:47:43,111 --> 00:47:46,197 and what he had to say about the Civil War, at least he was honest, 755 00:47:46,281 --> 00:47:50,118 "If we ain't fighting for slavery, then what the hell are we fighting for?" 756 00:47:52,078 --> 00:47:58,293 Ignorance is not bliss, because it allows a false history to thrive. 757 00:47:58,376 --> 00:48:01,337 "Who controls the past, controls the future." 758 00:48:01,421 --> 00:48:05,133 And if slavery just ended, and then we had the Civil Rights Movement, 759 00:48:05,216 --> 00:48:08,428 and everything was fine, then what are we still complaining about? 760 00:48:08,511 --> 00:48:11,222 "Who controls the past, controls the future." 761 00:48:11,306 --> 00:48:13,725 And your children, they are being taught 762 00:48:13,808 --> 00:48:16,102 that slavery was a side issue in the Civil War. 763 00:48:20,148 --> 00:48:22,901 Six months before the Emancipation Proclamation, 764 00:48:22,984 --> 00:48:27,489 Abraham Lincoln passed the Compensated Emancipation Act. 765 00:48:27,572 --> 00:48:29,115 What did that do? 766 00:48:29,199 --> 00:48:30,992 He freed D.C. slaves, 767 00:48:31,076 --> 00:48:35,747 and first, he set up a commission to pay approximately $300, 768 00:48:35,830 --> 00:48:38,792 which was about $7000 in today's money, 769 00:48:38,875 --> 00:48:44,589 in compensation to former slave owners, for each enslaved African freed. 770 00:48:44,672 --> 00:48:47,634 Please read that carefully. I'm not fooling. 771 00:48:47,717 --> 00:48:54,432 After nine months, 900 slave owners were paid $1 million, 772 00:48:54,516 --> 00:48:57,185 in 1860 money... 773 00:48:58,394 --> 00:49:00,647 for lost property. 774 00:49:01,481 --> 00:49:06,111 So when people have a discussion about reparations for slavery, 775 00:49:06,194 --> 00:49:10,740 it's a false debate, because reparations have already been paid. 776 00:49:10,824 --> 00:49:13,451 They were paid to slave owners. 777 00:49:15,537 --> 00:49:20,667 At the very same time that America refused to give the Negro any land... 778 00:49:21,376 --> 00:49:24,254 through an act of Congress, 779 00:49:24,337 --> 00:49:29,008 our government was giving away millions of acres of land 780 00:49:29,092 --> 00:49:31,052 in the West and the Midwest. 781 00:49:32,220 --> 00:49:34,514 Which meant that it was willing to undergird 782 00:49:34,597 --> 00:49:37,642 its white peasants from Europe with an economic floor. 783 00:49:37,725 --> 00:49:40,353 But not only did they give the land... 784 00:49:41,187 --> 00:49:43,648 they built land grant colleges 785 00:49:43,731 --> 00:49:46,860 with government money to teach them how to farm. 786 00:49:46,943 --> 00:49:53,283 Not only that, they provided county agents to further their expertise in farming. 787 00:49:53,366 --> 00:49:57,120 Not only that, they provided low interest rates 788 00:49:57,203 --> 00:50:00,165 in order that they could mechanize their farms. 789 00:50:00,248 --> 00:50:03,626 Not only that, today many of these people 790 00:50:03,710 --> 00:50:08,673 are receiving millions of dollars in federal subsidies not to farm, 791 00:50:08,756 --> 00:50:11,217 and they are the very people telling the Black man 792 00:50:11,301 --> 00:50:14,429 that he ought to lift himself by his own bootstraps. 793 00:50:15,597 --> 00:50:19,142 And this is what we are faced with, and this is the reality. 794 00:50:19,225 --> 00:50:21,269 Now, when we come to Washington... 795 00:50:22,228 --> 00:50:27,942 in this campaign, we are coming to get our check. 796 00:50:31,529 --> 00:50:33,198 So, what happened after the war? 797 00:50:33,281 --> 00:50:35,491 Something was happening in the South, 798 00:50:35,575 --> 00:50:39,078 because the enslaved people who were newly freed 799 00:50:39,162 --> 00:50:42,916 had been in the starting blocks for 246 years. 800 00:50:42,999 --> 00:50:46,044 And when the word "go" came, they were ready. 801 00:50:46,127 --> 00:50:52,091 'Cause what many people fail to recognize is Reconstruction was actually working. 802 00:50:53,301 --> 00:50:57,222 In 1868, before the 15th Amendment passed, 803 00:50:57,305 --> 00:51:02,227 there were 700,000 Black registered voters in the South. 804 00:51:02,310 --> 00:51:06,773 Two thousand Black men served in elected office. 805 00:51:06,856 --> 00:51:09,817 There was a Civil Rights Act in 1875. 806 00:51:09,901 --> 00:51:13,571 I bet most of the lawyers in this room don't even know this. 807 00:51:13,655 --> 00:51:15,740 It outlawed racial discrimination 808 00:51:15,823 --> 00:51:19,786 in housing, schools, public transportation, and jury service. 809 00:51:19,869 --> 00:51:23,623 It was just overruled by the Supreme Court in 1883. 810 00:51:24,207 --> 00:51:26,876 And then Rutherford Hayes got elected president. 811 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,880 And in 1877, he withdrew the Northern troops from the South, 812 00:51:30,964 --> 00:51:33,716 and what happened then is that the Confederates regrouped 813 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,261 as organizations like the KKK. 814 00:51:36,344 --> 00:51:40,765 The Southern states started passing laws to enforce and maintain white supremacy, 815 00:51:40,848 --> 00:51:46,562 and if you want an example of what was happening, in 1896 in Louisiana, 816 00:51:46,646 --> 00:51:51,734 there were 130,344 Black registered voters, 817 00:51:51,818 --> 00:51:54,654 and two years later, there were just over 5000. 818 00:51:54,737 --> 00:51:59,617 Why do you think 125,000 people 819 00:51:59,701 --> 00:52:02,453 decided not to vote? 820 00:52:05,832 --> 00:52:08,668 There was a chance at the end of the Civil War, 821 00:52:09,210 --> 00:52:12,088 and there was Reconstruction, and it was working. 822 00:52:12,171 --> 00:52:16,175 And they reached the tipping point, and they just rolled right back. 823 00:52:18,219 --> 00:52:21,139 And this is what we rolled back to. 824 00:52:23,516 --> 00:52:28,980 In 1896, the United States Supreme Court decided Plessy v. Ferguson. 825 00:52:29,063 --> 00:52:33,776 Mr. Plessy got on a train, on purpose, knowing he would be arrested, 826 00:52:33,860 --> 00:52:36,821 to test the law in America. 827 00:52:36,904 --> 00:52:39,574 And the United States Supreme Court said, 828 00:52:39,657 --> 00:52:44,037 "The law of America is separate, but equal.” 829 00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:48,374 It's not the custom, it's the law of the land. 830 00:52:51,377 --> 00:52:53,796 Now, I'm gonna ask you to look at that image, 831 00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:58,134 and understand what was normal, 832 00:52:58,217 --> 00:53:01,554 accepted, and American... 833 00:53:03,598 --> 00:53:04,682 in our country. 834 00:53:14,984 --> 00:53:18,780 Because you wanna talk about race in America at the turn of the 20th century, 835 00:53:18,863 --> 00:53:22,200 well, there were race riots in New Orleans and New York City. 836 00:53:22,283 --> 00:53:26,120 In 1901, 105 Black people are lynched. 837 00:53:26,204 --> 00:53:29,207 1902, 85 Black people are lynched. 838 00:53:29,290 --> 00:53:32,460 1903, 84 Black people lynched. 839 00:53:32,543 --> 00:53:35,922 1904, 76 Black people lynched. 840 00:53:36,005 --> 00:53:39,133 1905, 57 Black people lynched. 841 00:53:39,217 --> 00:53:42,387 1906, 62 Black people lynched. 842 00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:45,598 1907, 58 Black people lynched. 843 00:53:45,681 --> 00:53:48,726 1908, 89 Black people lynched. 844 00:53:48,810 --> 00:53:51,854 1909, 69 Black people lynched. 845 00:53:51,938 --> 00:53:55,149 1910, 67 Black people lynched. 846 00:53:55,233 --> 00:53:58,403 Between 1877 and 1950, 847 00:53:58,486 --> 00:54:04,700 more than 4000 racial, terrorized lynchings in America. 848 00:54:15,211 --> 00:54:19,799 This article appeared in the Chicago Defender, December 20, 1947. 849 00:54:19,882 --> 00:54:26,305 It says, "Enraged, jealous whites shoot down successful businessman. 850 00:54:26,389 --> 00:54:30,726 Believed Dixie gang murdered young father. 851 00:54:30,810 --> 00:54:34,981 Enraged whites, jealous over the business success of a Negro, 852 00:54:35,064 --> 00:54:38,526 are believed to be the lynchers of Elmore Boiling, 853 00:54:38,609 --> 00:54:43,156 who was found last week, riddled with shotgun and pistol bullets. 854 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:49,162 Those who know say Boiling has long been a marked man, 855 00:54:49,245 --> 00:54:55,293 since he was rated by whites here as too successful to be a Negro." 856 00:54:59,422 --> 00:55:02,592 Your family found your father's body in a ditch. 857 00:55:03,134 --> 00:55:05,261 Is this the ditch that we're looking at now? 858 00:55:05,344 --> 00:55:07,180 Yes, this is actually the spot, 859 00:55:07,263 --> 00:55:11,100 and it's ingrained in my memory 860 00:55:11,184 --> 00:55:14,854 where I'm just looking at him in the ditch with his eyes open. 861 00:55:17,982 --> 00:55:19,275 We heard the shots. 862 00:55:20,151 --> 00:55:23,446 We thought that someone was killing some cows, 863 00:55:23,529 --> 00:55:26,199 but we actually heard the shots that killed my dad. 864 00:55:28,951 --> 00:55:32,580 We all went down there, not knowing what to expect. 865 00:55:34,373 --> 00:55:38,878 His truck that he was driving was still running, with the lights on. 866 00:55:40,546 --> 00:55:44,217 He had been shot six times with a pistol, and once in the back with a shotgun. 867 00:55:47,512 --> 00:55:51,349 I knew that what had happened to my father 868 00:55:51,432 --> 00:55:54,644 was extremely bad. 869 00:55:55,353 --> 00:56:01,734 I cried most of the time until my mom finally sent me away with the neighbor. 870 00:56:03,986 --> 00:56:06,781 This is a fabulous picture. 871 00:56:06,864 --> 00:56:09,033 Could you tell us who is here? 872 00:56:09,116 --> 00:56:15,373 This is Mom, Bertha Boiling. Bertha Nowden Boiling. 873 00:56:16,874 --> 00:56:20,002 And this is my dad, Elmore Boiling. 874 00:56:20,086 --> 00:56:24,340 And one of the things that we always laugh about, the children, 875 00:56:24,423 --> 00:56:29,720 is that this thing in his hand, actually, is her purse. 876 00:56:29,804 --> 00:56:31,597 She kept the money. 877 00:56:31,681 --> 00:56:37,186 So on this picture, Dad took her purse and had it under his arm, 878 00:56:37,270 --> 00:56:38,938 because that was the money. 879 00:56:43,776 --> 00:56:48,864 What was the trajectory of your family after your father was lynched? 880 00:56:49,490 --> 00:56:52,243 By my father being the main breadwinner, 881 00:56:52,326 --> 00:56:56,872 we went from prosperity to poverty almost overnight. 882 00:56:56,956 --> 00:57:02,795 And my mom, she became a presser in a dry cleaners. 883 00:57:02,878 --> 00:57:06,716 And her arms had the burns that showed, 884 00:57:06,799 --> 00:57:09,969 you know, that came along with that kind of labor. 885 00:57:10,052 --> 00:57:13,139 And that was the labor that put me through college. 886 00:57:16,017 --> 00:57:20,813 The lynchings occurred for terroristic purposes. 887 00:57:20,896 --> 00:57:23,649 They wanted to keep Blacks terrified, 888 00:57:23,733 --> 00:57:27,320 to keep them from trying to do things, and it worked. 889 00:57:29,614 --> 00:57:31,032 Was anyone ever prosecuted? 890 00:57:31,115 --> 00:57:37,872 No. The killers who, actually, one of them actually admitted that he killed my father 891 00:57:37,955 --> 00:57:42,043 because he insulted his wife over the telephone, were never indicted. 892 00:57:49,342 --> 00:57:52,887 And that was what made me decide to do the historic marker. 893 00:57:54,388 --> 00:57:59,477 I had to have some symbol to tell the world 894 00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:06,317 that here was a good man that was killed just because he was successful. 895 00:58:06,859 --> 00:58:11,864 Am I correct that it is on, literally, the very spot where your father was killed? 896 00:58:11,947 --> 00:58:14,742 Within feet of where he was actually killed. 897 00:58:33,761 --> 00:58:37,598 And Confederate monuments started appearing in America. 898 00:58:38,182 --> 00:58:41,769 And these weren't monuments that were built right after the Civil War, 899 00:58:41,852 --> 00:58:44,980 when people were thinking, "Oh, my God, we just lost this war, 900 00:58:45,064 --> 00:58:48,818 and our heroes are so dear to our heart. We wanna memorialize them." 901 00:58:48,901 --> 00:58:52,238 No, no. They came mostly in the 20th century. 902 00:58:53,364 --> 00:58:55,658 This is a guy named John Pelham. 903 00:58:56,367 --> 00:58:57,827 What did he do? 904 00:58:57,910 --> 00:59:01,038 Well, he resigned from West Point in 1861 905 00:59:01,122 --> 00:59:05,000 to join the Confederate Army, and here's what he did to get a monument. 906 00:59:05,543 --> 00:59:10,131 "He displayed a genius for dashing to a spot that commanded the battlefield, 907 00:59:10,214 --> 00:59:12,800 and bravely raining shot and canisters 908 00:59:12,883 --> 00:59:15,594 on forces that greatly outnumbered his own." 909 00:59:15,678 --> 00:59:20,391 Translated, he killed a whole bunch of American soldiers 910 00:59:20,474 --> 00:59:22,476 in defense of slavery. 911 00:59:23,436 --> 00:59:29,358 And they built a monument to him for that, not for something else. 912 00:59:29,442 --> 00:59:33,028 When people say, "Well, George Washington owned slaves too, and he has a monument. 913 00:59:33,112 --> 00:59:34,780 Are you gonna take away his monument?" 914 00:59:34,864 --> 00:59:38,534 And my response is the Washington Monument was not built 915 00:59:38,617 --> 00:59:40,703 because George Washington owned slaves. 916 00:59:40,786 --> 00:59:44,790 He did own slaves, and he will be damned for that. 917 00:59:44,874 --> 00:59:49,086 Having said that, George Washington led the Revolutionary Army, 918 00:59:49,170 --> 00:59:50,963 and, I don't know, he founded the country? 919 00:59:51,046 --> 00:59:53,549 So maybe that's why they built him a monument. 920 00:59:55,760 --> 01:00:00,264 The fact that he owned enslaved people had nothing to do with his monument. 921 01:00:00,347 --> 01:00:03,976 The Confederate monuments were built for one reason, 922 01:00:04,059 --> 01:00:09,148 to honor people for what they did from 1861 to 1865. 923 01:00:09,231 --> 01:00:11,317 And those monuments honor people 924 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:14,278 during that time period for doing one thing, 925 01:00:14,361 --> 01:00:17,364 maiming and murdering American soldiers 926 01:00:17,448 --> 01:00:21,076 so that they could keep owning enslaved people. 927 01:00:22,536 --> 01:00:24,413 That's where the monuments are. 928 01:00:26,415 --> 01:00:28,542 Those are the top ten states. 929 01:00:30,753 --> 01:00:34,256 And this is who we are in America. 930 01:00:35,424 --> 01:00:38,886 What's up, y'all? Tami Sawyer here. 931 01:00:39,845 --> 01:00:43,641 I'm live at the Nathan Bedford Forrest statue. 932 01:00:44,350 --> 01:00:46,477 Right here in Memphis, Tennessee. 933 01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:50,856 I just wanted to come down and let Nathan Bedford Forrest know... 934 01:00:51,941 --> 01:00:54,443 that he has a formidable opponent. 935 01:00:57,488 --> 01:01:03,118 I was asked, "What's one thing you think you could make happen in a year?" 936 01:01:03,202 --> 01:01:05,579 I said, "We can get these damn statues removed." 937 01:01:05,663 --> 01:01:10,376 And I didn't believe it, but I said, "That sounds like one thing we could do." 938 01:01:10,459 --> 01:01:13,796 And I went on Facebook, and I made a post that said, 939 01:01:13,879 --> 01:01:16,215 "Who wants to talk about these statues?" And next thing, 940 01:01:16,298 --> 01:01:20,761 we had filled Bruce Elementary gym with 350 Memphians of all ages, 941 01:01:20,845 --> 01:01:23,347 races, genders, sexualities, creeds, 942 01:01:23,430 --> 01:01:26,600 even a descendant of Nathan Bedford Forrest himself, 943 01:01:26,684 --> 01:01:28,602 who came together to say, 944 01:01:29,186 --> 01:01:32,189 "We want Nathan Bedford Forrest and Jefferson Davis, 945 01:01:32,273 --> 01:01:35,234 and all Confederate memorabilia, removed from our city." 946 01:01:35,317 --> 01:01:37,695 -Take them down. -901. 947 01:01:37,778 --> 01:01:39,989 -Take them down. -901. 948 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,492 Protect the people, not the statue. 949 01:01:43,576 --> 01:01:45,661 Protect the people, not the statue. 950 01:01:45,744 --> 01:01:48,247 Protect the people, not the statue. 951 01:01:50,541 --> 01:01:52,501 How do you respond to the people that say, 952 01:01:52,585 --> 01:01:56,505 "This isn't about slavery or oppression of Black people. 953 01:01:56,589 --> 01:01:59,633 This is about Southern culture, and Southern history, 954 01:01:59,717 --> 01:02:01,969 and maintaining our history"? 955 01:02:03,429 --> 01:02:08,100 I think that those people need to, one, learn history. 956 01:02:08,183 --> 01:02:11,854 When people talk about Southerners, they think about white people. 957 01:02:11,937 --> 01:02:15,107 But the economy of the South and the culture of the South 958 01:02:15,190 --> 01:02:17,651 was built off slavery. 959 01:02:17,735 --> 01:02:22,114 The food we eat, right? Fried chicken, ham hocks, collard greens. 960 01:02:22,197 --> 01:02:23,616 That's Black people. 961 01:02:23,699 --> 01:02:25,367 The music we listen to. 962 01:02:25,451 --> 01:02:30,289 Elvis is not Elvis without Black musicians, right? 963 01:02:30,372 --> 01:02:33,500 Martin Luther King was killed here, right? 964 01:02:33,584 --> 01:02:35,878 Blackness, the blood of Black people, 965 01:02:35,961 --> 01:02:39,089 seeps so deeply into the ground of the South, 966 01:02:39,173 --> 01:02:40,507 you cannot look at-- 967 01:02:40,591 --> 01:02:43,636 You cannot describe Southerners or Southern history 968 01:02:43,719 --> 01:02:47,723 or American history with the exclusion of Black people. 969 01:02:47,806 --> 01:02:52,645 And so the people who say that we're rewriting history, they rewrote history. 970 01:02:52,728 --> 01:02:55,064 Now, if we had a statue that says, 971 01:02:55,147 --> 01:03:00,194 "Here lies the graves of a notorious slave owner and his wife, 972 01:03:00,986 --> 01:03:03,948 who only became one of the richest people in Memphis 973 01:03:04,031 --> 01:03:08,202 because of his brutal practices towards Black Americans." 974 01:03:08,953 --> 01:03:14,458 But that's not the history that people are ready to reconcile. 975 01:03:16,335 --> 01:03:19,254 And I see our Black kids, their lights go out in their eyes 976 01:03:19,338 --> 01:03:22,132 at 3, 4, 5 years old. 977 01:03:22,216 --> 01:03:25,928 They believe they're lesser than by the time they've reached kindergarten. 978 01:03:27,554 --> 01:03:29,890 And if we can change anything, 979 01:03:29,974 --> 01:03:32,810 I believe that we could change the landscape of our city 980 01:03:32,893 --> 01:03:36,021 so they didn't have to be reminded on a daily basis 981 01:03:36,105 --> 01:03:40,359 that they are considered second-class citizens by many people in this country. 982 01:03:42,569 --> 01:03:46,699 History is being made in Memphis tonight. 983 01:03:48,158 --> 01:03:49,910 Within the next few hours... 984 01:03:51,203 --> 01:03:57,042 both the Nathan Bedford Forrest and Jefferson Davis statues 985 01:03:57,126 --> 01:03:59,712 will no longer stand in our city. 986 01:04:05,134 --> 01:04:07,302 While we watched the cranes come in, 987 01:04:07,386 --> 01:04:11,390 the park get filled with workers, and I was right across the street to witness, 988 01:04:11,473 --> 01:04:14,435 at 9:01 on December 20th, 2017, 989 01:04:14,518 --> 01:04:17,479 Nathan Bedford Forrest rise above that pedestal 990 01:04:17,563 --> 01:04:19,481 for the first time since he was placed. 991 01:04:24,278 --> 01:04:25,738 What was that feeling like? 992 01:04:26,488 --> 01:04:28,449 It's a complicated feeling. 993 01:04:28,532 --> 01:04:33,620 One of relief, one of joy, and one of sadness. 994 01:04:33,704 --> 01:04:34,913 Where was the sadness from? 995 01:04:35,914 --> 01:04:39,001 We had to fight so hard, right? 996 01:04:39,084 --> 01:04:42,337 That I had friends who went to jail for this, 997 01:04:42,421 --> 01:04:45,424 that a woman was killed for this, right? 998 01:04:45,507 --> 01:04:47,801 And that our statue came down, 999 01:04:47,885 --> 01:04:52,264 and almost another thousand stand across the country. 1000 01:04:53,223 --> 01:04:55,809 And that people are working harder to protect them 1001 01:04:55,893 --> 01:04:59,354 and tell us that we are wrong or attention-seekers 1002 01:04:59,438 --> 01:05:03,275 than they are to reconcile and get to a point of truth 1003 01:05:03,358 --> 01:05:05,986 and understanding about who these people were. 1004 01:05:24,963 --> 01:05:28,675 February 10, 1915, The Birth of a Nation is released. 1005 01:05:28,759 --> 01:05:35,015 D.W. Griffith's stupendous motion picture production of Thomas Dixon's famous story, 1006 01:05:35,099 --> 01:05:36,225 The Clansman. 1007 01:05:36,308 --> 01:05:41,939 It employed the services of 18,000 people, and a symphony orchestra of 40. 1008 01:05:42,022 --> 01:05:44,566 As you can see, it took three years in production. 1009 01:05:46,735 --> 01:05:50,823 It was one of the first movies screened in the White House. 1010 01:05:52,908 --> 01:05:56,912 And it had white actors in black face, like this one. 1011 01:05:59,331 --> 01:06:01,333 And this story, by the way... 1012 01:06:03,043 --> 01:06:08,507 does damage, not only to every Black person... 1013 01:06:10,008 --> 01:06:14,346 but it takes the issue of sexual assault... 1014 01:06:14,972 --> 01:06:19,810 and twists it in a way that's incredible. 1015 01:06:21,854 --> 01:06:25,065 Because, of course, rather than let a Black man touch her... 1016 01:06:29,820 --> 01:06:31,488 she'll jump to her death. 1017 01:06:36,451 --> 01:06:39,246 This is what Woodrow Wilson had to say about the movie. 1018 01:06:39,329 --> 01:06:42,791 "The white men were roused by a mere instinct of self-preservation 1019 01:06:42,875 --> 01:06:46,920 until at last, there had sprung into existence a great Ku Klux Klan, 1020 01:06:47,004 --> 01:06:51,758 a veritable empire of the South, to protect the Southern country.” 1021 01:06:51,842 --> 01:06:55,137 This is the president of the United States. 1022 01:06:55,220 --> 01:06:59,516 Folks, this was entertainment. 1023 01:07:00,350 --> 01:07:04,188 This was a pleasant evening at the movies. 1024 01:07:05,314 --> 01:07:10,152 This is who we are as Americans at the turn of the last century. 1025 01:07:18,702 --> 01:07:22,873 Over your shoulder is a bridge with a man's name on it. 1026 01:07:22,956 --> 01:07:28,337 And I have seen pictures of that bridge ever since I was a young, young child, 1027 01:07:28,420 --> 01:07:32,174 and I see the name Edmund Pettus. 1028 01:07:32,257 --> 01:07:34,468 I think there are very few people in America 1029 01:07:34,551 --> 01:07:37,387 who know who Edmund Pettus really was. 1030 01:07:39,223 --> 01:07:45,729 Edmund Pettus was a powerful leader in this area. 1031 01:07:46,563 --> 01:07:49,816 He was a former U.♪. Senator. 1032 01:07:51,610 --> 01:07:58,200 Most importantly, he was the Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan. 1033 01:07:58,283 --> 01:07:59,451 Highest leader. 1034 01:07:59,534 --> 01:08:03,413 When this bridge was completed in 1940 or so, 1035 01:08:03,497 --> 01:08:05,374 they wanted a symbol. 1036 01:08:05,457 --> 01:08:06,917 They wanted to name... 1037 01:08:07,709 --> 01:08:13,632 the bridge after somebody who would send a signal 1038 01:08:13,715 --> 01:08:15,467 of "stay in your place," 1039 01:08:15,550 --> 01:08:21,473 because symbols are more powerful than words. 1040 01:08:21,556 --> 01:08:24,893 And so this is a very powerful symbol. 1041 01:08:24,977 --> 01:08:30,065 Every time someone cross the Edmund Pettus Bridge, it gets in them. 1042 01:08:30,148 --> 01:08:34,528 Every time someone see a photo of it, it gets in them. 1043 01:08:34,611 --> 01:08:39,157 Every time one sees something on TV, it gets in them. 1044 01:08:39,241 --> 01:08:41,201 So that's why, in the Senate, 1045 01:08:41,994 --> 01:08:45,998 I introduced a resolution 1046 01:08:46,081 --> 01:08:50,085 to change the name from Edmund Pettus Bridge 1047 01:08:50,168 --> 01:08:52,504 to the Freedom Bridge. 1048 01:08:52,587 --> 01:08:55,924 The state of Alabama, last year, passed a law that said 1049 01:08:56,008 --> 01:08:59,428 you cannot change the names of any of these 1050 01:08:59,511 --> 01:09:02,556 so-called iconic white supremacist symbols. 1051 01:09:04,391 --> 01:09:06,893 And somebody says, "Well, this is history." 1052 01:09:07,769 --> 01:09:10,188 This is symbolism. This is not history. 1053 01:09:10,272 --> 01:09:13,900 We ought never confuse symbolism with history. 1054 01:09:14,943 --> 01:09:20,949 Symbolism is somebody's idea about a response to what happened. 1055 01:09:21,033 --> 01:09:22,409 Not what happened. 1056 01:09:22,492 --> 01:09:24,870 You are to move off of the street immediately 1057 01:09:24,953 --> 01:09:27,789 and assemble in front of Lehman's Pontiac Dealer, 1058 01:09:27,873 --> 01:09:30,000 otherwise you will not be protected. 1059 01:09:40,510 --> 01:09:44,931 And here it is, 50-some years later after that, 1060 01:09:45,015 --> 01:09:47,601 and we're still fighting for the right to vote, 1061 01:09:47,684 --> 01:09:51,355 we're still fighting to keep our children from being killed, 1062 01:09:51,438 --> 01:09:57,027 we're still fighting to keep our people from being incarcerated, 1063 01:09:57,110 --> 01:09:59,738 we're still fighting for all kinds of things. 1064 01:09:59,821 --> 01:10:03,742 So that just demonstrates the depth of white supremacy. 1065 01:10:03,825 --> 01:10:06,578 And I didn't fully understand that. 1066 01:10:17,422 --> 01:10:19,758 The Greenwood neighborhood in Tulsa 1067 01:10:19,841 --> 01:10:22,469 was called Black Wall Street by many people. 1068 01:10:23,053 --> 01:10:26,473 These are some of the images of how Black Americans 1069 01:10:26,556 --> 01:10:31,436 were living in Tulsa, Oklahoma, in 1921. 1070 01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:36,066 The level of economic advancement was astounding. 1071 01:10:40,362 --> 01:10:45,784 Six hundred businesses, 21 churches, 21 restaurants, 30 grocery stores, 1072 01:10:45,867 --> 01:10:49,871 two movie theaters, six private airplanes, 1073 01:10:49,955 --> 01:10:54,835 a hospital, bank, post office, schools. 1074 01:10:54,918 --> 01:10:59,464 Libraries, law offices, even a bus system. 1075 01:11:00,465 --> 01:11:04,719 On May 30th of 1921, a young Black man was arrested 1076 01:11:04,803 --> 01:11:09,307 and accused of trying to assault a white female elevator operator. 1077 01:11:09,391 --> 01:11:13,645 All of the historical records say that the kid tripped in the elevator 1078 01:11:13,728 --> 01:11:15,355 and bumped into this white woman. 1079 01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:18,108 But he was arrested, and the rumor mill started, 1080 01:11:18,191 --> 01:11:19,401 and a lynch mob formed. 1081 01:11:22,446 --> 01:11:25,991 Well, the men in Greenwood were World War I veterans, 1082 01:11:26,074 --> 01:11:27,742 and when they heard about the lynch mob, 1083 01:11:27,826 --> 01:11:30,412 they got their guns and they went down to the courthouse. 1084 01:11:30,495 --> 01:11:35,292 Not to break anybody out, but to keep the lynch mob out. 1085 01:11:39,796 --> 01:11:44,468 On June 1st, 1921, white people rented airplanes. 1086 01:11:44,551 --> 01:11:46,845 They got burning balls of turpentine, 1087 01:11:46,928 --> 01:11:50,891 and they dropped them on the businesses and homes in Greenwood. 1088 01:11:51,725 --> 01:11:55,520 And when Black people ran out of the burning buildings and homes, 1089 01:11:55,604 --> 01:11:59,858 they were shot dead by white people standing outside. 1090 01:12:01,276 --> 01:12:05,614 I get angry when I read about this 1091 01:12:05,697 --> 01:12:08,283 referred to as "the Tulsa Riot." 1092 01:12:08,366 --> 01:12:12,204 This was not a riot. This was a massacre. 1093 01:12:23,507 --> 01:12:27,677 This was the cost of preventing a lynching. 1094 01:12:34,309 --> 01:12:37,229 I thought the world was coming to an end. 1095 01:12:38,230 --> 01:12:41,358 I felt, "Well, what in the world is going on?" 1096 01:12:41,441 --> 01:12:45,737 Being as young as I was, I didn't understand. 1097 01:12:45,820 --> 01:12:47,113 But it was quite a mess. 1098 01:12:47,989 --> 01:12:49,658 It was quite something. 1099 01:12:53,370 --> 01:12:57,123 Would you introduce yourself, please? Tell folks your name? 1100 01:12:58,041 --> 01:13:02,254 My name is Lessie Evelyn Randle. 1101 01:13:02,879 --> 01:13:06,007 It was Benningfield before I married, and... 1102 01:13:07,634 --> 01:13:10,637 I am 100 and...years old. 1103 01:13:22,065 --> 01:13:24,901 I remember, I don't know what you call them, rebels, 1104 01:13:24,985 --> 01:13:26,695 or what they were, came in, 1105 01:13:26,778 --> 01:13:29,406 and they just spared Grandmother's home, 1106 01:13:29,489 --> 01:13:31,116 they didn't burn her home. 1107 01:13:31,199 --> 01:13:34,578 But the homes all around us were burned, 1108 01:13:34,661 --> 01:13:40,250 and stores were just cleaned out... 1109 01:13:41,209 --> 01:13:44,004 and everything, but it was quite something. 1110 01:13:44,087 --> 01:13:46,715 I never want to see anything like that again. 1111 01:13:48,925 --> 01:13:55,849 I saw two or three being shot down as we were escaping. 1112 01:13:57,809 --> 01:14:03,565 At one time, we went in an area where they had killed so many, 1113 01:14:03,648 --> 01:14:09,654 just had them piled up in the street in a pile. 1114 01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:13,617 And I thought that was terrible. 1115 01:14:14,242 --> 01:14:17,037 I remember thinking that... 1116 01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,873 I said, "What are these people doing lying around like this?" 1117 01:14:19,956 --> 01:14:24,002 One of the people told me, "They're dead. They were killed." 1118 01:14:24,836 --> 01:14:26,171 I said, "Oh, my God." 1119 01:14:26,254 --> 01:14:29,674 That, of course, scared me, being a kid and everything, 1120 01:14:29,758 --> 01:14:31,593 but it was quite something. 1121 01:14:39,976 --> 01:14:44,064 -So this is a city-owned cemetery? -Yes. 1122 01:14:44,147 --> 01:14:46,650 -The name of it is...? -Oaklawn Cemetery. 1123 01:14:47,359 --> 01:14:51,279 And it was a place where we have 1124 01:14:51,363 --> 01:14:53,615 very credible evidence, 1125 01:14:53,698 --> 01:14:56,576 eyewitness testimony that's been passed down, 1126 01:14:56,660 --> 01:14:57,786 that bodies were dumped. 1127 01:14:58,703 --> 01:15:02,874 And we've gotten documented stories from white citizens that live in Tulsa 1128 01:15:02,957 --> 01:15:06,461 who had families here during the massacre and before. 1129 01:15:06,544 --> 01:15:08,755 "Cause one of the guys that I interviewed told me, 1130 01:15:08,838 --> 01:15:10,382 he said, "My father took me..." 1131 01:15:11,049 --> 01:15:13,885 You used to be able to walk up to the rail system. 1132 01:15:14,511 --> 01:15:19,182 He said they brought rail cars through here, flatbed rail cars, 1133 01:15:19,265 --> 01:15:21,142 and they just rolled bodies off. 1134 01:15:22,268 --> 01:15:25,313 But our contention was the bodies were dumped 1135 01:15:26,272 --> 01:15:28,650 all the way where the underpass is, 1136 01:15:28,733 --> 01:15:33,780 and they intentionally put the interstate on top of their bodies, 1137 01:15:33,863 --> 01:15:36,658 knowing that nobody would ever think... 1138 01:15:36,741 --> 01:15:38,785 -To look under the road. -To look under the road. 1139 01:15:41,329 --> 01:15:46,918 What is the most reasonable estimate of how many people died? 1140 01:15:47,001 --> 01:15:51,256 You're looking at 4000 people... 1141 01:15:51,923 --> 01:15:54,050 - Easy. -that you cannot account for. 1142 01:15:54,634 --> 01:15:57,011 -Yeah, I agree. -So it's a genocide. 1143 01:15:57,095 --> 01:15:58,930 It's an ethnic cleansing, you know? 1144 01:15:59,013 --> 01:16:02,100 Even to call it a massacre marginalizes it, 1145 01:16:02,183 --> 01:16:04,978 because it's just too big. 1146 01:16:05,061 --> 01:16:06,938 It's too big of a story. 1147 01:16:09,232 --> 01:16:11,651 -You see the steps over to the left? -Yes. 1148 01:16:11,735 --> 01:16:15,029 We call those the Steps of No Return. 1149 01:16:16,489 --> 01:16:19,284 And why are they called the Steps of No Return? 1150 01:16:19,367 --> 01:16:21,619 'Cause the houses were never rebuilt. 1151 01:16:26,291 --> 01:16:27,709 Yeah, it's a powerful... 1152 01:16:29,711 --> 01:16:31,212 Powerful place to be. 1153 01:16:32,172 --> 01:16:34,090 And you look forward, you look at the city, 1154 01:16:34,174 --> 01:16:36,885 -and you just imagine what was. -And what could have been. 1155 01:16:36,968 --> 01:16:39,512 -Yeah. -If this hadn't been destroyed. 1156 01:16:41,014 --> 01:16:44,350 This city could've had an incredibly different destiny. 1157 01:16:44,434 --> 01:16:46,478 -Yeah. -Definitely. 1158 01:16:56,946 --> 01:16:59,908 I never wanna see anything like that again. 1159 01:17:00,533 --> 01:17:04,037 Of course, you never know what may happen again. You never know. 1160 01:17:04,454 --> 01:17:07,707 Because the way it's going now, from what I've seen... 1161 01:17:09,375 --> 01:17:12,045 I feel like anything could happen. 1162 01:17:15,757 --> 01:17:19,260 How is it possible that this could happen in America 1163 01:17:19,344 --> 01:17:24,057 and not be taught in history books up one side and down the other? 1164 01:17:27,644 --> 01:17:31,272 Do you know how many people were prosecuted for the Tulsa Massacre? 1165 01:17:31,356 --> 01:17:32,357 Zero. 1166 01:17:33,066 --> 01:17:38,822 Do you think law enforcement didn't know who rented an airplane on June 1st? 1167 01:17:38,905 --> 01:17:42,408 Do you think law enforcement couldn't tell from the pictures 1168 01:17:42,492 --> 01:17:45,912 who were walking around town with shotguns over their shoulders 1169 01:17:45,995 --> 01:17:49,082 to figure out who may have shot some of the Black people? 1170 01:17:49,165 --> 01:17:53,336 Do you really think law enforcement didn't know what happened? 1171 01:17:53,962 --> 01:17:57,632 The reason I have shown this, and shown the pictures of lynchings, 1172 01:17:57,715 --> 01:18:01,553 is that these kind of things could not happen 1173 01:18:01,636 --> 01:18:06,266 without law enforcement acquiescence or direct involvement. 1174 01:18:06,349 --> 01:18:09,936 You can't hang somebody from a tree in the middle of the city 1175 01:18:10,019 --> 01:18:12,397 and have the police not know about it. 1176 01:18:16,276 --> 01:18:20,363 The hand you see in that picture is the hand of Emmett Till's mother. 1177 01:18:20,905 --> 01:18:24,576 That woman is one of the bravest women in American history, 1178 01:18:24,659 --> 01:18:28,913 because she took her personal tragedy, 1179 01:18:29,455 --> 01:18:33,918 her incredibly personal tragedy, and she made a decision. 1180 01:18:34,002 --> 01:18:38,214 "I am going to make America look at who we are." 1181 01:18:38,298 --> 01:18:44,637 And in 1955, this next picture appeared in newspapers across America. 1182 01:18:45,805 --> 01:18:47,849 And I believe, personally, 1183 01:18:47,932 --> 01:18:50,935 that many white people across America woke up 1184 01:18:51,019 --> 01:18:52,979 and looked at this picture in the paper, 1185 01:18:53,062 --> 01:18:55,857 and said something to themselves like this: 1186 01:18:56,357 --> 01:18:59,277 "I know those colored people down there are causing a problem... 1187 01:19:00,445 --> 01:19:02,488 but I didn't sign up for this." 1188 01:19:13,124 --> 01:19:15,126 Everyone thinks that America 1189 01:19:15,209 --> 01:19:18,630 is still one of the most segregated countries in the world 1190 01:19:18,713 --> 01:19:23,551 because of social individual prejudice, and finances. 1191 01:19:23,635 --> 01:19:27,221 And I'm not saying that those two things don't have some relationship 1192 01:19:27,305 --> 01:19:29,390 to our segregated country. 1193 01:19:30,308 --> 01:19:33,728 What I am saying is, federal, state and local governments 1194 01:19:33,811 --> 01:19:36,773 deliberately sabotaged Black home ownership. 1195 01:19:36,856 --> 01:19:38,816 This wasn't a mistake. 1196 01:19:38,900 --> 01:19:43,404 This was the deliberate policy of the federal government. 1197 01:19:44,364 --> 01:19:47,408 The Federal Housing Authority drew red line maps 1198 01:19:47,492 --> 01:19:51,663 of every major city in America. 1199 01:19:51,746 --> 01:19:55,124 That's the red line map of Brooklyn, New York. 1200 01:19:57,126 --> 01:20:01,881 "A," or green ranking, meant the neighborhood was homogeneous. 1201 01:20:01,965 --> 01:20:04,968 A "B," or blue ranking, meant it was still desirable 1202 01:20:05,051 --> 01:20:06,928 and expected to remain stable. 1203 01:20:07,011 --> 01:20:09,722 A "C" ranking meant it was declining, 1204 01:20:09,806 --> 01:20:13,559 beginning to be integrated, bordering on Black neighborhoods. 1205 01:20:13,643 --> 01:20:19,607 And a "D" ranking was red, for redlining, any Black presence at all. 1206 01:20:20,858 --> 01:20:25,279 And this was the truth from sea to shining sea. 1207 01:20:26,572 --> 01:20:29,951 And then we reach 1954, with Brown v. The Board. 1208 01:20:30,535 --> 01:20:33,121 I will tell you, this had a major impact on my life, 1209 01:20:33,204 --> 01:20:35,581 in terms of school desegregation. 1210 01:20:37,041 --> 01:20:40,003 This is what Thurgood Marshall argued in the Supreme Court. 1211 01:20:40,628 --> 01:20:43,339 "Separate but equal was the inherent determination 1212 01:20:43,423 --> 01:20:47,927 that people who were formerly in slavery, regardless of anything else, 1213 01:20:48,011 --> 01:20:51,472 shall be kept as near that stage as is possible." 1214 01:20:51,556 --> 01:20:53,099 And doesn't that make sense? 1215 01:20:53,182 --> 01:20:56,310 What the heck is "separate but equal” except: 1216 01:20:56,394 --> 01:20:58,229 "You are not human enough. 1217 01:20:58,312 --> 01:21:01,607 Don't drink my water out of my water fountain, 1218 01:21:01,691 --> 01:21:07,071 don't use the bathroom and my toilet, don't go to school with my children." 1219 01:21:08,281 --> 01:21:14,037 Let's stroll and see if we can find our eighth grade graduation picture 1220 01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:17,749 and second grade First Communion picture. 1221 01:21:18,458 --> 01:21:19,667 It used to be down here. 1222 01:21:20,918 --> 01:21:24,464 I think the lights may come on as we walk. 1223 01:21:26,924 --> 01:21:28,509 -There we go. -There it is. 1224 01:21:29,260 --> 01:21:30,386 Here we go. 1225 01:21:30,845 --> 01:21:33,306 -Yeah. -1963. 1226 01:21:34,098 --> 01:21:37,060 -There's First Communion. -First Communion. 1227 01:21:37,143 --> 01:21:38,311 That's me. 1228 01:21:40,104 --> 01:21:42,190 -That's Opie right there. -That's right. 1229 01:21:42,273 --> 01:21:44,650 -That's my older brother, Herbert. -Yep. 1230 01:21:48,738 --> 01:21:52,366 My older brother, Herbert, and I were the first two Black kids 1231 01:21:52,450 --> 01:21:54,327 to come to school at St. Louis. 1232 01:21:54,410 --> 01:21:58,706 Opie, you and I met each other the summer before the second grade, 1233 01:21:58,790 --> 01:22:02,335 and that was the start of one of the best friendships 1234 01:22:02,418 --> 01:22:04,587 I've ever had in my life. 1235 01:22:05,630 --> 01:22:10,009 Well, as we were going to school here, 1236 01:22:10,093 --> 01:22:12,261 and different things were happening in the world, 1237 01:22:12,345 --> 01:22:15,598 I remember when King was assassinated, for example. 1238 01:22:16,349 --> 01:22:18,101 Op, what do you remember about that? 1239 01:22:18,184 --> 01:22:22,897 I remembered that... I think it was the first time I saw my father 1240 01:22:23,481 --> 01:22:26,150 be armed with a shotgun in our house 1241 01:22:26,234 --> 01:22:31,364 just because of the fear of civil unrest. 1242 01:22:33,074 --> 01:22:37,662 But we were still so young at that time 1243 01:22:37,745 --> 01:22:42,917 that we didn't have a true sense of what was really going on. 1244 01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:43,876 Yeah. 1245 01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:45,878 -We were just having fun. -Yeah. 1246 01:22:45,962 --> 01:22:51,551 And we would go places, and the only thing that really... 1247 01:22:51,634 --> 01:22:56,055 I think the first time that I felt any discomfort is, 1248 01:22:56,139 --> 01:22:57,598 and you might recall this, 1249 01:22:57,682 --> 01:23:01,853 we took the bus to the Crosstown Theater, 1250 01:23:01,936 --> 01:23:05,940 and the movie Patton had just come out, with George C. Scott. 1251 01:23:06,399 --> 01:23:08,067 And at the Crosstown... 1252 01:23:09,652 --> 01:23:12,321 we went and we had to sit in the balcony 1253 01:23:12,405 --> 01:23:18,202 because Jeffery wasn't allowed to sit in the main area. 1254 01:23:19,162 --> 01:23:23,291 I didn't think much of it because I wanted to sit in the balcony to start with. 1255 01:23:23,374 --> 01:23:24,542 It's pretty neat up there. 1256 01:23:24,625 --> 01:23:29,964 But it was the first time that I realized that there were differences 1257 01:23:30,047 --> 01:23:32,717 on how we were treated by others. 1258 01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:36,971 And I remember it was something that we kind of brushed off 1259 01:23:37,054 --> 01:23:41,976 in our childhood, but looking back on it, it's just sad. 1260 01:23:43,102 --> 01:23:45,104 One thing I remember more than anything else 1261 01:23:45,188 --> 01:23:48,024 about those days, where y'all were concerned, 1262 01:23:48,107 --> 01:23:50,860 and hopefully you don't even hardly remember this, 1263 01:23:50,943 --> 01:23:56,199 because I tried to take care of it in a very professional manner. 1264 01:23:57,491 --> 01:24:01,329 We went to Sacred Heart in Walls, to a basketball game, 1265 01:24:01,412 --> 01:24:06,459 and we were all getting out of the car, and we were walking into the gym. 1266 01:24:07,043 --> 01:24:10,713 And a man grabbed me by the arm, and said, "What are you doing?" 1267 01:24:10,796 --> 01:24:11,923 And I said, "Pardon me?" 1268 01:24:12,006 --> 01:24:16,552 And he said, "We don't allow Blacks in the gym, or to play in the gym." 1269 01:24:16,636 --> 01:24:19,847 So this is Mississippi, which is right over the line. 1270 01:24:19,931 --> 01:24:21,599 And I said, "Well, that's fine." 1271 01:24:21,682 --> 01:24:24,936 And I remember turning to y'all, and I said, 1272 01:24:25,019 --> 01:24:27,021 "They've got a problem with the clock, 1273 01:24:27,104 --> 01:24:30,399 and with what's going on here, we all are out here. We're leaving." 1274 01:24:30,983 --> 01:24:35,988 And the parents of the team, they were fine with it. 1275 01:24:36,072 --> 01:24:37,698 I explained to a couple of them. 1276 01:24:37,782 --> 01:24:39,825 We were walking out the gym door, 1277 01:24:39,909 --> 01:24:44,413 and the pastor there at Sacred Heart was coming in. 1278 01:24:45,081 --> 01:24:47,500 He stopped me, and said, "Mr. Orians, what are you doing?" 1279 01:24:47,583 --> 01:24:50,544 And I said, "Well, this is what happened when I went in the gym." 1280 01:24:50,628 --> 01:24:53,172 And he goes, "No, that ain't happening."” 1281 01:24:54,966 --> 01:24:56,842 And he went back in that gym, 1282 01:24:56,926 --> 01:25:00,012 and he got the coaches and the parents together, 1283 01:25:00,096 --> 01:25:02,306 and we went back into the gym and we played. 1284 01:25:04,976 --> 01:25:06,435 I didn't know that. 1285 01:25:06,519 --> 01:25:07,603 I figured not. 1286 01:25:18,698 --> 01:25:22,243 What I remember about that tournament, 1287 01:25:22,326 --> 01:25:25,788 a kid on the other team, at one point, calling me a nigger. 1288 01:25:26,539 --> 01:25:28,499 And I remember there was a time out, 1289 01:25:28,582 --> 01:25:32,003 and my dad must have been near the bench, and I said to him, 1290 01:25:32,086 --> 01:25:34,171 "You know, this kid called me a nigger." 1291 01:25:34,630 --> 01:25:37,675 He looked me in the eye and he said, "What do you wanna do about it? 1292 01:25:37,758 --> 01:25:41,470 Do you wanna quit? Do you wanna cry? Or do you wanna keep playing?” 1293 01:25:41,929 --> 01:25:43,806 And I was like, "I wanna keep playing." 1294 01:25:43,889 --> 01:25:48,436 And he's like, "Then forget about it and keep playing," which is what I did. 1295 01:25:49,145 --> 01:25:52,648 But my memory of that was always just that 1296 01:25:52,732 --> 01:25:54,108 it was this kid... 1297 01:25:56,819 --> 01:25:58,362 who had interacted with me. 1298 01:25:59,363 --> 01:26:01,949 I definitely remember the trip to Walls, Mississippi, 1299 01:26:02,033 --> 01:26:05,870 because I remember that you could get a Coca-Cola for a nickel 1300 01:26:05,953 --> 01:26:06,954 in those machines, 1301 01:26:07,038 --> 01:26:11,375 and up here, it was like 10 or 15 cents, and I'm like, "Damn this is great. 1302 01:26:11,459 --> 01:26:15,087 Maybe we wanna live here," and my father's like, "I don't think we do." 1303 01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:18,341 But it's one of the things 1304 01:26:18,424 --> 01:26:23,304 that you protected all of us from, 1305 01:26:23,763 --> 01:26:28,184 and I just wondered whether those things were still in your head. 1306 01:26:30,394 --> 01:26:32,813 I was thinking about this work that we're doing, 1307 01:26:32,897 --> 01:26:34,899 and thinking about coming back to Memphis, 1308 01:26:34,982 --> 01:26:39,195 that the relationships that I built here, 1309 01:26:39,653 --> 01:26:41,989 even though I haven't seen people in so long, 1310 01:26:42,073 --> 01:26:45,326 are some of the warmest things that I can ever remember. 1311 01:26:45,409 --> 01:26:51,165 And these kind of relationships are the things that are important in life. 1312 01:26:51,248 --> 01:26:53,834 And it is so good to see both of you. 1313 01:26:53,918 --> 01:26:58,547 And I just love the fact that we were able to grow up together. 1314 01:27:00,216 --> 01:27:02,635 Dick, I'm gonna give you back this ball. 1315 01:27:03,302 --> 01:27:05,846 The first integrated high school game in Memphis, 1316 01:27:05,930 --> 01:27:09,850 Catholic, 14, Father Bertrand, 7. 1317 01:27:09,934 --> 01:27:11,227 -There you go. -Yeah. 1318 01:27:11,310 --> 01:27:12,895 -Thank you both so much. -All right. 1319 01:27:12,978 --> 01:27:15,022 -Jeffery, man, good seeing you. -Absolutely. 1320 01:27:15,648 --> 01:27:17,566 -Dick, thank you, brother. -All right, buddy. 1321 01:27:21,946 --> 01:27:26,659 The promise of Brown, what a lie that's turned out to be. 1322 01:27:29,203 --> 01:27:33,666 American schools today are almost as segregated 1323 01:27:33,749 --> 01:27:36,252 as they were in the '50s. 1324 01:27:38,712 --> 01:27:44,260 This is the "victory" document from the Montgomery Bus Boycott. 1325 01:27:44,885 --> 01:27:47,638 The document that was circulated in the Black community 1326 01:27:47,721 --> 01:27:50,516 the night before the buses were gonna be integrated, 1327 01:27:50,599 --> 01:27:53,894 a bus boycott that lasted for more than a year, 1328 01:27:53,978 --> 01:27:57,398 where Black women were going into white homes, 1329 01:27:57,481 --> 01:27:59,442 being maids in those homes, 1330 01:27:59,525 --> 01:28:02,445 and they were getting up at 4 and 5:00 in the morning 1331 01:28:02,528 --> 01:28:04,155 to walk to those homes, 1332 01:28:04,238 --> 01:28:07,366 and then walk back to their homes in the Black neighborhoods, 1333 01:28:07,450 --> 01:28:10,244 and get there maybe at 8:30, 9:00 at night, 1334 01:28:10,327 --> 01:28:13,038 try and feed their families, try and take care of their families, 1335 01:28:13,122 --> 01:28:17,418 and then get up the next day, and do it all over again for over a year. 1336 01:28:17,501 --> 01:28:21,213 And I get 15 minutes late to work, and I get pissed off. 1337 01:28:24,341 --> 01:28:26,635 This is the victory document. 1338 01:28:27,595 --> 01:28:31,891 "The bus driver is in charge of the bus, and has been instructed to obey the law. 1339 01:28:31,974 --> 01:28:36,353 Assume he will cooperate in helping you occupy any vacant seat. 1340 01:28:36,437 --> 01:28:40,858 Do not deliberately sit by a white person unless there is no other seat." 1341 01:28:40,941 --> 01:28:42,568 Where did this come from? 1342 01:28:42,651 --> 01:28:46,155 This is the difference that every Black person in America knows. 1343 01:28:46,238 --> 01:28:48,991 It's the slip between the law and living. 1344 01:28:49,575 --> 01:28:53,162 Yeah, the law says you can ride that bus and sit wherever you want, 1345 01:28:53,245 --> 01:28:55,956 but don't go getting yourself killed over it. 1346 01:28:57,082 --> 01:28:59,585 "In case of an incident, talk as little as possible, 1347 01:28:59,668 --> 01:29:02,671 and always in a quiet tone. Do not get up from your seat. 1348 01:29:02,755 --> 01:29:05,090 Report all incidents to the bus driver." 1349 01:29:05,174 --> 01:29:09,094 "Talk as little as possible, and always in a quiet tone." 1350 01:29:09,178 --> 01:29:11,388 Don't make white people uncomfortable, 1351 01:29:11,472 --> 01:29:14,767 because the cost of that could be your life. 1352 01:29:15,559 --> 01:29:19,522 "If another person is being molested, do not arise to go to his defense, 1353 01:29:19,605 --> 01:29:21,482 but pray for the oppressor... 1354 01:29:22,942 --> 01:29:27,446 and use moral and spiritual force to carry on the struggle for justice.” 1355 01:29:27,530 --> 01:29:30,074 And I don't know what to say about that one, 1356 01:29:30,157 --> 01:29:34,745 and I definitely don't know what to say about this one. 1357 01:29:35,913 --> 01:29:39,875 "If you feel you cannot take it, walk for another week or two." 1358 01:29:41,418 --> 01:29:45,005 This is the difference between the law and living... 1359 01:29:45,965 --> 01:29:47,925 when you're Black in America. 1360 01:29:59,353 --> 01:30:02,523 When was the last time you were here in this temple? 1361 01:30:04,024 --> 01:30:05,234 Fifty years ago. 1362 01:30:07,278 --> 01:30:08,571 Larry's funeral. 1363 01:30:13,367 --> 01:30:17,830 I remember it was around 700 people here. 1364 01:30:17,913 --> 01:30:21,083 I mean, they was all outside, it was packed. 1365 01:30:22,418 --> 01:30:25,713 And Larry was in a white casket. 1366 01:30:30,009 --> 01:30:34,179 And my mother and father were standing at his casket. 1367 01:30:35,889 --> 01:30:37,975 And they was crying. 1368 01:30:47,776 --> 01:30:51,363 This is where the march started, at Clayborn Temple, 1369 01:30:51,447 --> 01:30:53,240 and they marched downtown. 1370 01:30:56,118 --> 01:30:57,911 Larry and... 1371 01:30:59,038 --> 01:31:02,666 some more of his classmates had left school, 1372 01:31:02,750 --> 01:31:06,712 because the school was urging everybody to go down there. 1373 01:31:07,421 --> 01:31:11,842 And so him and some of his friends had went down there. 1374 01:31:15,512 --> 01:31:20,184 What did your family hear about what actually happened to Larry? 1375 01:31:21,018 --> 01:31:22,686 It was-- Witnesses. 1376 01:31:22,770 --> 01:31:24,605 I mean, a lot of witnesses at that time, 1377 01:31:24,688 --> 01:31:29,401 and they said that the officer, Leslie Dean Jones, 1378 01:31:29,485 --> 01:31:31,487 he was running with a shotgun, 1379 01:31:31,570 --> 01:31:34,740 and Larry saw him running with the shotgun. 1380 01:31:34,823 --> 01:31:38,535 So he ran in what they call a boiler room, 1381 01:31:39,161 --> 01:31:41,163 and he ordered Larry to come out. 1382 01:31:42,206 --> 01:31:46,251 And Larry, he came out with his hands in the air 1383 01:31:46,335 --> 01:31:47,878 and said, "Don't shoot.” 1384 01:31:50,339 --> 01:31:54,426 He put the shotgun in his stomach, and pulled the trigger... 1385 01:31:55,678 --> 01:31:57,513 at close range. 1386 01:31:59,306 --> 01:32:00,683 At close range. 1387 01:32:06,438 --> 01:32:08,732 My mother, she ran out the house, 1388 01:32:08,816 --> 01:32:10,317 she didn't have no shoes on, 1389 01:32:10,401 --> 01:32:13,612 and she reached to touch Larry, 1390 01:32:13,696 --> 01:32:16,740 and he put the barrel in her chest, and told her to "Get back, nigger." 1391 01:32:18,784 --> 01:32:20,828 And she said, "That's my son." 1392 01:32:24,707 --> 01:32:28,001 When I got home, my father, Mason Payne, 1393 01:32:28,085 --> 01:32:30,587 he was in the driveway, and he was crying. 1394 01:32:31,338 --> 01:32:33,424 And I said, "Dad, what's wrong?" 1395 01:32:33,507 --> 01:32:36,927 He said, "Larry gone. He won't be back. 1396 01:32:39,179 --> 01:32:40,347 He won't be back." 1397 01:32:44,935 --> 01:32:46,979 He was a young Black man... 1398 01:32:48,856 --> 01:32:50,566 in school and working. 1399 01:32:54,153 --> 01:32:56,238 He didn't have a chance to live his life. 1400 01:32:57,656 --> 01:33:00,909 Larry was murdered in cold blood for no reason at all. 1401 01:33:04,121 --> 01:33:06,623 Devastated. We were devastated. 1402 01:33:06,707 --> 01:33:09,334 I mean, still going through it. 1403 01:33:10,043 --> 01:33:11,587 Still going through it. 1404 01:33:13,213 --> 01:33:15,841 Larry's gone, but he will never be forgotten, 1405 01:33:16,383 --> 01:33:18,051 not by the Payne family. 1406 01:33:36,945 --> 01:33:41,200 But I must confess that that dream that I had that day 1407 01:33:41,283 --> 01:33:45,120 has, in many points, turned into a nightmare. 1408 01:33:45,204 --> 01:33:47,206 Now, I'm not one to lose hope. 1409 01:33:47,289 --> 01:33:49,541 I keep on hoping 1410 01:33:49,625 --> 01:33:52,252 I still have faith in the future, 1411 01:33:52,336 --> 01:33:56,089 but I've had to analyze many things over the last few years, 1412 01:33:56,173 --> 01:33:58,592 and I would say, over the last few months, 1413 01:33:58,675 --> 01:34:02,513 I've gone through a lot of soul-searching and agonizing moments, 1414 01:34:03,013 --> 01:34:08,185 and I've come to see that we have many more difficult days ahead, 1415 01:34:08,268 --> 01:34:12,481 and some of the old optimism was a little superficial, 1416 01:34:12,564 --> 01:34:15,567 and now it must be tempered with a solid realism. 1417 01:34:15,651 --> 01:34:21,198 And I think the realistic fact is that we still have a long, long way to go. 1418 01:34:21,281 --> 01:34:25,577 I think the biggest problem now is that we got our gains 1419 01:34:25,661 --> 01:34:29,039 over the last 12 years at bargain rates, so to speak. 1420 01:34:29,122 --> 01:34:30,874 It didn't cost the nation anything. 1421 01:34:30,958 --> 01:34:33,627 In fact, it helped the economic side of the nation 1422 01:34:33,710 --> 01:34:36,880 to integrate lunch counters and public accommodations. 1423 01:34:36,964 --> 01:34:42,553 It didn't cost the nation anything to get the right to vote established. 1424 01:34:43,053 --> 01:34:45,389 Now we are confronting issues 1425 01:34:45,931 --> 01:34:50,394 that cannot be solved without costing the nation billions of dollars. 1426 01:34:50,477 --> 01:34:53,689 Now, I think this is where we're getting our greatest resistance. 1427 01:34:53,772 --> 01:34:55,649 They may put it on many other things, 1428 01:34:55,732 --> 01:35:00,654 but we can't get rid of slums and poverty without it costing the nation something. 1429 01:35:01,405 --> 01:35:03,448 A lot of people who want change, 1430 01:35:03,532 --> 01:35:06,660 they just don't want the change to cost them anything, 1431 01:35:06,743 --> 01:35:11,081 or to require them to change anything about the way that they're living. 1432 01:35:14,334 --> 01:35:17,254 Fifty years ago, this report came out. 1433 01:35:17,796 --> 01:35:20,382 It came out about three weeks before King was killed 1434 01:35:20,465 --> 01:35:22,593 in my hometown of Memphis. 1435 01:35:23,343 --> 01:35:27,806 And these are the things that it said, the basic conclusion of the Kerner Report: 1436 01:35:27,890 --> 01:35:30,058 "Our nation is moving toward two societies, 1437 01:35:30,142 --> 01:35:33,770 one Black, one white, separate, and unequal.” 1438 01:35:33,854 --> 01:35:37,691 Folks, this is what they're saying 50 years ago. 1439 01:35:37,774 --> 01:35:40,485 "The deepening racial divide is not inevitable. 1440 01:35:40,569 --> 01:35:43,447 The movement apart can be reversed. 1441 01:35:43,530 --> 01:35:45,407 Choice is still possible. 1442 01:35:45,490 --> 01:35:48,076 Our principal task is to define that choice, 1443 01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:50,746 and press for a national resolution. 1444 01:35:51,580 --> 01:35:53,248 To pursue our present course 1445 01:35:53,332 --> 01:35:57,920 will involve the continuing polarization of the American community 1446 01:35:58,003 --> 01:36:03,717 and ultimately the destruction of basic democratic values." 1447 01:36:04,301 --> 01:36:06,053 Does that sound familiar? 1448 01:36:08,472 --> 01:36:11,016 "What white America has never fully understood, 1449 01:36:11,099 --> 01:36:13,435 but what the Negro can never forget, 1450 01:36:13,518 --> 01:36:17,522 is that white society is deeply implicated in the ghetto. 1451 01:36:17,606 --> 01:36:19,858 White institutions created it, 1452 01:36:19,942 --> 01:36:24,738 white institutions maintain, and white society condones it." 1453 01:36:25,238 --> 01:36:27,407 This is 50 years ago, 1454 01:36:28,033 --> 01:36:31,620 and three weeks later, that's what happened in my hometown. 1455 01:36:34,331 --> 01:36:39,419 King was killed on April 4th, 1968. 1456 01:36:40,379 --> 01:36:43,840 He was scheduled to give a speech in a Memphis church 1457 01:36:44,591 --> 01:36:48,095 that Sunday, April 7, 1968. 1458 01:36:48,679 --> 01:36:53,183 This is the title of the speech that was found among his papers 1459 01:36:53,266 --> 01:36:56,019 in the Lorraine Motel after he was killed. 1460 01:36:57,020 --> 01:36:59,398 I wonder what that speech would have been like. 1461 01:37:11,368 --> 01:37:17,708 So in 1968, the Fair Housing Act ended 34 years of legal redlining, 1462 01:37:18,250 --> 01:37:22,504 and what I wanna tell you for a few minutes now is about luck. 1463 01:37:23,588 --> 01:37:25,882 Because if you look at this picture, 1464 01:37:25,966 --> 01:37:30,554 the guy on your left with the little gangster lean 1465 01:37:30,637 --> 01:37:32,472 and the tilted hat, that's me. 1466 01:37:34,850 --> 01:37:38,478 The guy in the front with the hat looking down at my younger sister 1467 01:37:38,562 --> 01:37:41,314 is my younger brother, who's seated in the front audience. 1468 01:37:42,149 --> 01:37:44,985 And that's my father, my older brother, and my younger sister. 1469 01:37:45,068 --> 01:37:49,656 That's the house we lived in in Memphis, Tennessee, in 1962. 1470 01:37:49,740 --> 01:37:52,117 In an all-Black neighborhood in Memphis. 1471 01:37:52,200 --> 01:37:54,995 And what happened in '68, after King was killed, 1472 01:37:55,078 --> 01:37:58,331 is that there was a developer who was essentially buying 1473 01:37:58,415 --> 01:38:00,000 all the houses in our neighborhood. 1474 01:38:00,834 --> 01:38:03,170 Well, my dad wouldn't sell our house. 1475 01:38:03,879 --> 01:38:06,548 My dad and my mother were converted Catholics, 1476 01:38:06,631 --> 01:38:08,675 and they wanted their kids in Catholic school, 1477 01:38:08,759 --> 01:38:11,011 and that meant schools in East Memphis, 1478 01:38:11,094 --> 01:38:13,513 and that meant living in a white neighborhood. 1479 01:38:13,597 --> 01:38:15,807 So my dad made a deal with the developer. 1480 01:38:15,891 --> 01:38:18,602 "You buy me a house, and I'll give you my house." 1481 01:38:18,685 --> 01:38:19,936 We went looking at houses. 1482 01:38:20,020 --> 01:38:23,231 Every time we would look at a house, we would offer the asking price, 1483 01:38:23,315 --> 01:38:25,525 and the house would get sold by somebody else, 1484 01:38:25,609 --> 01:38:26,860 or "Another agent sold it," 1485 01:38:26,943 --> 01:38:29,321 or "We lost the contract when we went fishing 1486 01:38:29,404 --> 01:38:32,449 and it fell out of the boat,"” and all these excuses. 1487 01:38:33,283 --> 01:38:35,744 This is the house that we ended up living in. 1488 01:38:36,328 --> 01:38:39,289 Four bedrooms, two and a half bathrooms, 1489 01:38:39,372 --> 01:38:42,959 a quiet place for me and my brothers and sisters to study, 1490 01:38:43,043 --> 01:38:44,544 a good school district, 1491 01:38:44,628 --> 01:38:49,883 all the things that Americans say you need in order to be successful. 1492 01:38:51,093 --> 01:38:54,513 We went to look at this house and offered the asking price, 1493 01:38:54,596 --> 01:38:57,516 and we had white friends of ours go about a half an hour later, 1494 01:38:57,599 --> 01:39:00,352 and they offered less money, and they sold it to them, 1495 01:39:00,435 --> 01:39:02,187 but they were buying it for us. 1496 01:39:09,778 --> 01:39:11,905 -This does bring back a lot of memories. -Yeah. 1497 01:39:11,988 --> 01:39:15,742 -And it looks about the same as it was. -It really does. 1498 01:39:15,826 --> 01:39:20,038 Maybe a little paint, but this is pretty much how I remember it. 1499 01:39:20,789 --> 01:39:26,128 We moved into this house after Dr. King was killed in 1969. 1500 01:39:26,211 --> 01:39:31,591 And your family played a role that I never quite understood 1501 01:39:31,675 --> 01:39:34,427 until you and I have just recently talked. 1502 01:39:34,511 --> 01:39:39,099 -Could you tell us about that? -My mother-in-law was a Realtor. 1503 01:39:39,182 --> 01:39:43,854 She was a 64-year-old Jewish woman who had been born and raised in Memphis. 1504 01:39:43,937 --> 01:39:47,816 And so she agreed to be your parents' Realtor, 1505 01:39:47,899 --> 01:39:50,193 and she would show them houses, 1506 01:39:50,277 --> 01:39:52,487 and when they came and saw this house, 1507 01:39:52,571 --> 01:39:53,947 it was a brand-new house. 1508 01:39:54,030 --> 01:39:56,324 The real estate agent came to the door, 1509 01:39:56,408 --> 01:39:59,786 and at first, I think she thought my mother-in-law was the customer. 1510 01:39:59,870 --> 01:40:01,371 My mother-in-law gave her her card, 1511 01:40:01,454 --> 01:40:03,707 and when she realized it, she said something, 1512 01:40:03,790 --> 01:40:05,876 and slammed the door in their face. 1513 01:40:06,626 --> 01:40:08,837 So by that time, they'd seen so many houses, 1514 01:40:08,920 --> 01:40:11,548 they just said, "We've got to find another way." 1515 01:40:11,631 --> 01:40:15,260 So then their friends, Web and Pat Smith, 1516 01:40:15,343 --> 01:40:18,138 were the ones who bought the house, 1517 01:40:18,221 --> 01:40:21,016 and when they came and the Realtor saw them, 1518 01:40:21,099 --> 01:40:23,185 she was very excited and happy. 1519 01:40:23,268 --> 01:40:27,355 And so then they bought the house, and transferred it to your parents. 1520 01:40:28,732 --> 01:40:34,779 And what I remember is you and Andy, and my parents... 1521 01:40:34,863 --> 01:40:38,366 I have this memory of you guys laughing in our living room, 1522 01:40:38,450 --> 01:40:40,785 and I knew it had something to do with a house, 1523 01:40:40,869 --> 01:40:44,789 and I knew you and Andy had helped us to get this house 1524 01:40:44,873 --> 01:40:48,460 and we couldn't talk about it until we moved in 1525 01:40:48,543 --> 01:40:50,503 because my parents were concerned 1526 01:40:50,587 --> 01:40:52,672 that somebody would do something to the house, 1527 01:40:52,756 --> 01:40:54,716 if they knew we were moving in. 1528 01:40:55,217 --> 01:40:56,509 But then after you moved in, 1529 01:40:56,593 --> 01:40:59,429 did you have much difficulty in the neighborhood? 1530 01:40:59,930 --> 01:41:03,475 I remember the first week that we moved in, 1531 01:41:03,558 --> 01:41:06,311 my daddy sat on the carport right here, 1532 01:41:06,394 --> 01:41:11,149 under the carport, in a lawn chair with a shotgun across his lap. 1533 01:41:11,233 --> 01:41:14,277 And he would sit there until early in the morning 1534 01:41:14,361 --> 01:41:17,489 because he was gonna be ready if somebody came to the house. 1535 01:41:17,572 --> 01:41:18,657 I didn't realize that. 1536 01:41:18,740 --> 01:41:21,576 I remember it took a while for people to get used to us living here. 1537 01:41:21,660 --> 01:41:25,288 The woman that lived right here came over, 1538 01:41:25,372 --> 01:41:27,791 the day we moved in, to the front door, 1539 01:41:27,874 --> 01:41:31,294 and she had a plate of chocolate chip cookies. 1540 01:41:31,753 --> 01:41:33,755 And I am addicted to chocolate chip cookies, 1541 01:41:33,838 --> 01:41:35,757 and I have been ever since I was a kid. 1542 01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:39,094 And she knocked on the door, and my mom opened the door, 1543 01:41:39,177 --> 01:41:42,430 and I had run behind my mom, just to see who it was. 1544 01:41:42,514 --> 01:41:45,600 And she said, "May I speak to the lady of the house?" 1545 01:41:45,684 --> 01:41:47,894 And my mother said, "You're looking at her." 1546 01:41:47,978 --> 01:41:51,356 And she just spun, and walked back to the house. 1547 01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:55,443 -Taking the cookies with her. -I was like, "Could I have one cookie?" 1548 01:42:10,834 --> 01:42:15,463 And so that was me and Herbert's room. That was Teresa and Michelle. 1549 01:42:15,547 --> 01:42:17,257 And was that your room or the bathroom? 1550 01:42:17,340 --> 01:42:20,385 -That's the bathroom, then my window... -Your window faces that way. 1551 01:42:22,887 --> 01:42:26,057 The yard looks even a little bigger than I remember. 1552 01:42:26,141 --> 01:42:28,393 I just remember it being huge... 1553 01:42:29,561 --> 01:42:33,189 and having to use those clippers along the edges of the fence 1554 01:42:33,273 --> 01:42:38,153 to cut that grass that he never could stand. 1555 01:42:38,236 --> 01:42:41,072 With all the shit we were taking about moving in here, 1556 01:42:41,156 --> 01:42:44,576 he's like, you know, "My yard will be the best yard." 1557 01:42:44,659 --> 01:42:46,119 -The showplace. -Yeah. 1558 01:42:53,585 --> 01:42:58,631 There's a cemetery right across the street, and I remember... 1559 01:43:00,550 --> 01:43:04,095 Soon after we moved in, I was over there one night. 1560 01:43:04,179 --> 01:43:07,015 I'd just come out of the house, I don't know what I was doing, 1561 01:43:07,098 --> 01:43:11,770 but I was sitting on the wall, and a police car pulled up. 1562 01:43:11,853 --> 01:43:15,190 And the officers got out and asked me who I was, 1563 01:43:15,273 --> 01:43:17,984 and they patted me down, and they said, "Where do you live?" 1564 01:43:18,068 --> 01:43:20,945 I said, "I live right across the street. I'm just hanging out here." 1565 01:43:21,029 --> 01:43:22,489 They said, "You don't live there." 1566 01:43:22,572 --> 01:43:25,200 And they brought me over here, and of course, 1567 01:43:25,283 --> 01:43:27,077 Mommy answered the door, and they're like, 1568 01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:29,954 "Just wanted to bring your son home, make sure he was safe." 1569 01:43:30,038 --> 01:43:33,833 I'm like, "No. They were saying I didn't live here. Didn't believe me." 1570 01:43:34,793 --> 01:43:36,920 And then I remember Mommy and Daddy always saying, 1571 01:43:37,003 --> 01:43:38,505 "Well, we don't have to move far. 1572 01:43:38,588 --> 01:43:41,174 We're just going right across the street.” 1573 01:43:41,257 --> 01:43:44,177 So the cemetery across the street is where they're both buried. 1574 01:43:54,187 --> 01:43:56,356 Shortly before my dad died, 1575 01:43:56,439 --> 01:44:02,695 he was asking whether he and my mom made the right decision, 1576 01:44:02,779 --> 01:44:07,534 saying, "I know it was hard on you and your brothers and sisters, 1577 01:44:07,617 --> 01:44:09,828 and living in that neighborhood had its challenges, 1578 01:44:09,911 --> 01:44:12,330 and maybe it wasn't the right decision." 1579 01:44:12,414 --> 01:44:17,377 And I don't know what would have happened to my brothers 1580 01:44:18,128 --> 01:44:23,550 or my sisters or me if we hadn't come here. 1581 01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:29,973 This is part of what made me who I am. 1582 01:44:36,229 --> 01:44:39,107 This is what luck looks like. 1583 01:44:40,316 --> 01:44:44,112 I have worked as hard as anybody in this theater 1584 01:44:44,195 --> 01:44:48,533 to get where I am today, and I am proud of that. 1585 01:44:48,616 --> 01:44:50,577 But I am lucky. 1586 01:44:51,244 --> 01:44:54,581 I was not the smartest kid in my neighborhood, 1587 01:44:55,457 --> 01:44:59,669 and that ball that we saw rolling back when King got shot, 1588 01:44:59,752 --> 01:45:02,422 the only reason I didn't get crushed by that ball 1589 01:45:02,505 --> 01:45:05,383 is that I had unicorns for parents, 1590 01:45:05,467 --> 01:45:09,512 who figured out some way to get their kids into a situation 1591 01:45:09,596 --> 01:45:11,598 where they had a better chance to succeed. 1592 01:45:11,681 --> 01:45:14,017 And if that's what it takes 1593 01:45:14,100 --> 01:45:16,769 to have a legitimate chance at success, 1594 01:45:16,853 --> 01:45:20,899 having unicorns for parents, or just having dumb luck... 1595 01:45:22,150 --> 01:45:25,069 Is that really a country that you want to live in? 1596 01:45:26,029 --> 01:45:28,031 And so when you hear words, 1597 01:45:28,114 --> 01:45:32,076 when you hear the concept expressed of "white privilege," 1598 01:45:32,160 --> 01:45:36,748 I am begging you to think about that in a different way. 1599 01:45:36,831 --> 01:45:40,043 White privilege doesn't mean that you haven't worked hard. 1600 01:45:40,126 --> 01:45:43,129 It doesn't mean that you haven't overcome obstacles. 1601 01:45:43,213 --> 01:45:46,049 It means that you walk through the world differently 1602 01:45:46,132 --> 01:45:49,219 than the Black and brown people in this country. 1603 01:45:49,302 --> 01:45:54,098 It does not take away from your hard work or your accomplishments at all. 1604 01:45:54,182 --> 01:45:58,228 It simply says this playing field is not level. 1605 01:46:00,230 --> 01:46:03,983 And that's because racism is more than just prejudice. 1606 01:46:04,067 --> 01:46:08,905 It is prejudice plus social power, plus legal authority. 1607 01:46:08,988 --> 01:46:13,535 And Black and brown people have never had the last two in America. 1608 01:46:13,618 --> 01:46:16,955 Not when we were brought here as enslaved people, 1609 01:46:17,038 --> 01:46:19,249 not during the Civil Rights Movement, 1610 01:46:19,332 --> 01:46:22,669 and not while Barack Obama was in the White House. 1611 01:46:25,922 --> 01:46:28,007 So, what did our prison population look like 1612 01:46:28,091 --> 01:46:30,385 as we entered the Nixon years? 1613 01:46:30,468 --> 01:46:34,305 Looked like about that, just under 400,000 people. 1614 01:46:35,723 --> 01:46:39,602 Here's what John Ehrlichman had to say about Nixon's strategy. 1615 01:46:40,895 --> 01:46:42,438 "We knew we couldn't make it illegal 1616 01:46:42,522 --> 01:46:45,316 to be either against the war or Black, 1617 01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:48,611 but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana, 1618 01:46:48,695 --> 01:46:52,198 and Blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, 1619 01:46:52,282 --> 01:46:53,950 we could disrupt those communities. 1620 01:46:54,033 --> 01:46:56,494 We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, 1621 01:46:56,578 --> 01:46:57,620 break up their meetings, 1622 01:46:57,704 --> 01:47:01,332 and vilify them night after night on the evening news. 1623 01:47:01,416 --> 01:47:05,795 Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did." 1624 01:47:05,878 --> 01:47:09,090 And when we hear, today, America say, 1625 01:47:09,173 --> 01:47:13,636 "My God, the opioid epidemic, it's taking our children. 1626 01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:16,180 This is horrible. It's a medical issue. 1627 01:47:16,264 --> 01:47:19,350 We can't treat our children as enemies in a war. 1628 01:47:19,434 --> 01:47:21,227 We have to help our children." 1629 01:47:21,311 --> 01:47:24,814 I'm not trying to be facetious or to say that's not right. 1630 01:47:24,897 --> 01:47:26,149 Of course it's right. 1631 01:47:26,232 --> 01:47:28,526 But where was that sentiment when crack cocaine 1632 01:47:28,610 --> 01:47:30,862 was destroying Black communities? 1633 01:47:34,907 --> 01:47:38,703 This is Bill Clinton signing the 1994 Crime Bill, 1634 01:47:39,245 --> 01:47:42,582 a bill that did more damage to racial justice 1635 01:47:42,665 --> 01:47:44,125 in the criminal legal system 1636 01:47:44,208 --> 01:47:47,170 than any bill that I can remember in a long time. 1637 01:47:47,253 --> 01:47:50,298 This is not about Democrat or Republican. 1638 01:47:50,381 --> 01:47:52,634 This is about America. 1639 01:47:52,717 --> 01:47:55,470 Bill Clinton is saying, "When I sign this Crime Bill, 1640 01:47:55,553 --> 01:47:57,639 we together are taking a big step 1641 01:47:57,722 --> 01:48:00,350 toward bringing the laws of our land 1642 01:48:00,433 --> 01:48:03,186 back into line with the values of our people.” 1643 01:48:03,269 --> 01:48:05,355 And he was speaking the truth, 1644 01:48:05,438 --> 01:48:08,316 because the values that America has expressed 1645 01:48:08,399 --> 01:48:09,734 up to that point, 1646 01:48:09,817 --> 01:48:11,819 and with what that law did, 1647 01:48:11,903 --> 01:48:15,615 they were the values of mass incarceration and white supremacy. 1648 01:48:19,202 --> 01:48:20,244 So, what happened? 1649 01:48:21,412 --> 01:48:22,872 That's what happened. 1650 01:48:25,041 --> 01:48:26,542 And it wasn't an accident. 1651 01:48:32,423 --> 01:48:33,633 And so here... 1652 01:48:34,550 --> 01:48:39,639 are pictures of what I refer to as "snuff films," 1653 01:48:39,722 --> 01:48:43,393 things that we have now gotten used to seeing in America. 1654 01:48:43,476 --> 01:48:45,978 The killings of Black and brown men and women. 1655 01:48:54,904 --> 01:48:57,323 The ten cities with the largest police departments 1656 01:48:57,407 --> 01:49:03,413 collectively paid out $1.02 billion 1657 01:49:03,496 --> 01:49:07,625 between 2010 and 2015 in police misconduct cases, 1658 01:49:07,709 --> 01:49:09,794 which include alleged beatings, 1659 01:49:09,877 --> 01:49:12,171 shootings, and wrongful imprisonments. 1660 01:49:12,255 --> 01:49:18,094 You can't pay a billion dollars for police misconduct, 1661 01:49:18,177 --> 01:49:20,138 and not have criminal activity. 1662 01:49:23,725 --> 01:49:28,271 So we now know that to some Americans, Black Lives Matter is a hate group. 1663 01:49:30,690 --> 01:49:33,067 And what I would encourage you to think about... 1664 01:49:35,278 --> 01:49:40,867 is that the things that they're saying about Black Lives Matter activists today 1665 01:49:40,950 --> 01:49:42,869 are the exact same things they were saying 1666 01:49:42,952 --> 01:49:45,413 about Martin Luther King in the '60s. 1667 01:49:49,917 --> 01:49:56,299 Martin Luther King was arrested 30 times in 12 years. 1668 01:49:57,175 --> 01:50:00,303 We have a word for that. It's called "thug.” 1669 01:50:01,137 --> 01:50:04,766 That's what we refer to activists today as, in America, 1670 01:50:04,849 --> 01:50:07,059 because they're in our face. 1671 01:50:07,143 --> 01:50:09,979 They're making us look at things we don't want to look at. 1672 01:50:10,062 --> 01:50:12,982 They're interrupting our football games. 1673 01:50:15,109 --> 01:50:19,906 We've gotta give ourselves to this struggle until the end. 1674 01:50:19,989 --> 01:50:23,826 Nothing would be more tragic than to stop, 1675 01:50:23,910 --> 01:50:26,704 at this point in Memphis. 1676 01:50:26,788 --> 01:50:28,456 We've gotta see it through. 1677 01:50:30,082 --> 01:50:31,334 America was at the point 1678 01:50:31,417 --> 01:50:34,003 where we were going to move from who we were 1679 01:50:34,086 --> 01:50:37,340 to who we could be, and who we always wanted to be. 1680 01:50:37,882 --> 01:50:41,469 And I remember thinking as a kid, "Well, who's going to lead us now?" 1681 01:50:42,303 --> 01:50:45,640 The leader that was going to make this movement go somewhere 1682 01:50:45,723 --> 01:50:47,266 had been taken away, 1683 01:50:47,350 --> 01:50:51,729 and I think that's a lesson to be learned about this work, 1684 01:50:51,813 --> 01:50:55,775 and a lesson that the women who established Black Lives Matter 1685 01:50:55,858 --> 01:50:57,360 have learned clearly: 1686 01:50:57,443 --> 01:51:01,197 You can't kill one person and stop the Black Lives Matter movement. 1687 01:51:01,280 --> 01:51:04,492 And the three women that set it up that way did it on purpose, 1688 01:51:04,575 --> 01:51:09,080 so that there would be leaders in small communities all around America. 1689 01:51:10,456 --> 01:51:12,750 -Say his name! -George Floyd. 1690 01:51:13,292 --> 01:51:15,711 -No justice. -No peace. 1691 01:51:16,254 --> 01:51:20,258 You are seeing Black people, brown people, white people, 1692 01:51:20,341 --> 01:51:24,053 people from every race in this country, 1693 01:51:24,136 --> 01:51:26,681 demonstrating together. 1694 01:51:26,764 --> 01:51:29,976 That has never happened before 1695 01:51:30,059 --> 01:51:32,562 on the scale that it's happening right now. 1696 01:51:32,645 --> 01:51:34,480 -Say her name! -Breonna Taylor! 1697 01:51:34,564 --> 01:51:40,027 The possibility of radical change is in the air. 1698 01:51:40,695 --> 01:51:42,363 -Whose streets? -Our streets! 1699 01:51:42,446 --> 01:51:43,823 -Whose streets? -Our streets! 1700 01:51:43,906 --> 01:51:47,952 I want to tell you why you were invited here tonight, 1701 01:51:48,744 --> 01:51:51,205 and it really comes down to this: 1702 01:51:51,289 --> 01:51:54,041 50 years from now, somebody, 1703 01:51:54,125 --> 01:51:56,419 maybe in an auditorium like this, 1704 01:51:56,502 --> 01:51:58,713 is going to be talking to a group of people 1705 01:51:58,796 --> 01:52:02,049 about what happened in this generation. 1706 01:52:02,133 --> 01:52:06,721 Did we turn up the volume on our videos and our TV 1707 01:52:06,804 --> 01:52:11,225 and just let that ball roll back, like we have every single time 1708 01:52:11,309 --> 01:52:13,519 we've come to a tipping point? 1709 01:52:13,603 --> 01:52:17,648 Or did this generation decide to do something different? 1710 01:52:17,732 --> 01:52:21,068 And I hope and expect that each one of you 1711 01:52:21,152 --> 01:52:25,281 will be out there with me pushing that ball to a new direction. 1712 01:52:25,364 --> 01:52:27,533 Thank you very much and good night. 1713 01:53:36,310 --> 01:53:42,775 Well, I woke up this morning with my mind 1714 01:53:43,359 --> 01:53:49,323 Stayed on freedom 1715 01:53:49,949 --> 01:53:55,162 Woke up this morning with my mind 1716 01:53:55,788 --> 01:54:01,419 Stayed on freedom 1717 01:54:02,086 --> 01:54:07,842 Woke up this morning with my mind 1718 01:54:07,925 --> 01:54:12,972 Stayed on freedom 1719 01:54:13,055 --> 01:54:15,766 -Hallelu -Hallelu 1720 01:54:15,850 --> 01:54:18,477 -Hallelu -Hallelu 1721 01:54:18,561 --> 01:54:25,401 Hallelujah 1722 01:54:25,943 --> 01:54:28,112 Well, I'm walkin' and talkin' 1723 01:54:28,195 --> 01:54:33,617 With my mind stayed on freedom 1724 01:54:33,701 --> 01:54:36,662 Oh, yes, I'm walkin' and talkin' With my mind 1725 01:54:36,746 --> 01:54:41,292 You know that it's stayed on freedom 1726 01:54:41,375 --> 01:54:44,336 I said, I'm walkin' and talkin' With my mind 1727 01:54:44,420 --> 01:54:48,716 You know that it's stayed on freedom 1728 01:54:48,799 --> 01:54:50,801 -Hallelu -Hallelu 1729 01:54:50,885 --> 01:54:52,720 -Hallelu -Hallelu 1730 01:54:52,803 --> 01:54:56,557 Hallelujah 1731 01:54:56,640 --> 01:55:00,227 Oh, well, ain't no harm with your mind 1732 01:55:00,311 --> 01:55:04,273 Come on, now! Stayed on freedom 1733 01:55:04,356 --> 01:55:07,068 Oh, no, there ain't no harm with your mind 1734 01:55:07,151 --> 01:55:10,362 You know it! Stayed on freedom 1735 01:55:10,446 --> 01:55:12,323 You can sing along, now 1736 01:55:12,406 --> 01:55:14,700 Ain't no harm with your mind 1737 01:55:14,784 --> 01:55:19,163 You know it! Stayed on freedom 1738 01:55:19,246 --> 01:55:20,998 -Hallelu -Hallelu 1739 01:55:21,082 --> 01:55:22,958 -Hallelu -Hallelu 1740 01:55:23,042 --> 01:55:25,669 Hallelujah 1741 01:55:25,753 --> 01:55:27,379 Come on and walk, now 1742 01:55:27,463 --> 01:55:30,341 Walk, walk, you better walk, walk 1743 01:55:30,424 --> 01:55:34,720 Come on and walk Walk with your mind on freedom! 1744 01:55:34,804 --> 01:55:35,971 Walk, walk 1745 01:55:36,055 --> 01:55:37,681 Come on, now Walk, walk 1746 01:55:37,765 --> 01:55:42,144 You better walk, walk With your mind on freedom! 1747 01:55:42,228 --> 01:55:45,272 Oh, oh, oh 1748 01:55:45,356 --> 01:55:47,233 You better walk 1749 01:55:47,316 --> 01:55:49,151 Come on and walk 1750 01:55:49,235 --> 01:55:53,364 While I'm singing and shoutin' With my mind, yeah 1751 01:55:53,447 --> 01:55:57,243 Stayed on freedom! Are you stayed on freedom? 1752 01:55:57,326 --> 01:56:00,830 Singing and shoutin' with my mind, yeah 1753 01:56:00,913 --> 01:56:03,707 Stayed on freedom 1754 01:56:03,791 --> 01:56:06,919 You know, you're singing and shoutin' With my mind 1755 01:56:07,002 --> 01:56:11,298 You know that! Stayed on freedom 1756 01:56:11,382 --> 01:56:13,008 -Hallelu -Hallelu 1757 01:56:13,092 --> 01:56:14,844 -Hallelu -Hallelu 1758 01:56:14,927 --> 01:56:17,346 Hallelujah 1759 01:56:17,429 --> 01:56:18,347 Come on and sing! 1760 01:56:18,430 --> 01:56:20,349 -Hallelu -Hallelu 1761 01:56:20,432 --> 01:56:22,226 -Hallelu -Hallelu 1762 01:56:22,309 --> 01:56:24,770 Hallelujah 1763 01:56:24,854 --> 01:56:25,855 One more time! 1764 01:56:25,938 --> 01:56:27,690 -Hallelu -Hallelu 1765 01:56:27,773 --> 01:56:29,692 -Hallelu -Hallelu 1766 01:56:29,775 --> 01:56:36,782 Hallelujah 142180

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