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The Apostle Paul
was leaving the next day,
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so he spoke until late
into the night.
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A young man named
Eutycus was falling asleep
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while he sat in the window.
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When he was sound asleep
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he fell to the ground
from the third story
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and he died.
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Over here!
Someone fell!
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What is a miracle?
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The birth of a child?
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A close call?
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Surviving an accident?
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A miracle is a supernatural
act of God
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in which he interrupts
the normal course of life in an
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extraordinary and remarkable way
to accomplish his purposes.
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When the natural order
is reversed.
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When a deaf person
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is now able to hear,
a blind person is now
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able to see
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where out of death
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someone is resurrected to life.
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God can do anything he wants,
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any time He wants.
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When most
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people think about miracles,
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they think they're on every page
of Scripture.
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The average person
throughout biblical history
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witnessed miracles all the time.
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The truth is absolutely not.
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There were intermittent times
in biblical history
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when God directly,
without the use of a person,
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simply performed a miracle.
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If we get a little bit
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more specific, we might ask
What is the gift of miracles?
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Or who was a miracle worker?
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The gift of miracles was a gift
given
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to a supernaturally endowed
person.
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God worked miracles through that
individual, confirming that
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that individual was a spokesman
and representative for God.
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When Moses said,
What if I don't believe me,
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God says, I'm going to give you
the power to work miracles
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so that I will believe you that
you're speaking on my behalf.
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The miracles
were given to validate
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that they are a mouthpiece
for God, that He is
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a man sent by God
to speak on behalf of God.
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In First Kings 17,
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we have Elijah meeting
with the widow.
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There's a famine in the land.
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And then we have the widow's
son dying.
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The widow
thinks that she's under
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some sort of judgment.
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Through Elijah,
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the Lord miraculously raises
this young boy
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back to life.
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The widow's response in
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verse 24 is very instructive.
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And the woman said to Elijah,
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Now, I know that
you are a man of God,
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and that the word of the Lord in
your mouth is truth.
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There were times
three of them in Scripture
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when God gave to men
the power to work miracles.
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There is, first of all,
the time of Moses and Joshua
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1400 years before Christ,
a period of about 65 years.
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Then you fast forward to
the time of Elijah and Elisha.
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You're about 800 years
before Christ, and there again
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you have a period
of about 65 years
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when God was giving men
the power to work miracles.
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The next period of time
like that comes
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in the time of Jesus
and the apostles.
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And that stems from
the beginning of his ministry
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to at the very latest,
the death of John.
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There you have another period
of 65, 70 years.
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Those were the three epochs.
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And in each case
it was to confirm those men
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as his messengers.
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The purpose of miracles
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in the Ministry of Christ
in the Apostles fits exactly
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in line with the patterns
we see in the Old Testament.
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So when God gave extraordinary
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signs and wonders to people
like Moses, Elijah and Elisha,
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he did the same thing
to the Lord Jesus Christ.
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But here is the Son of God
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coming in person
and human flesh.
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He did miracles
as his day to day
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work to show
that he was the Son of God,
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the messenger from the Father,
the true and ultimate prophet.
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We ought
to give more earnest heed
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to the things that we've heard
than what people heard
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under the old Testament
prophets,
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because God confirmed
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by signs and wonders
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and gifts of the Holy Spirit,
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the words of those
who heard Him,
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who were the apostles.
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The word apostle comes
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from the Greek word Apostolos,
which means sent one.
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And it wasn't something that was
unique to Jesus apostles.
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If the Emperor ever sent
somebody out with a message
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from the Emperor, he was called
an apostle of the Emperor.
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And the message that he carried
was every bit as authoritative
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as if the emperor
was speaking himself.
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So if you were to reject
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the message
of the emperor’s apostle,
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it would be like
rejecting the Emperor.
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Or if you were to attack
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the apostle, it would be like
attacking Caesar himself.
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And the Apostle Paul's
letter to the church of Ephesus,
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he uses the metaphor
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of a spiritual temple
to describe the church.
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And he says in chapter two,
verse 20 that it is
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built on the foundation
of the apostles and prophets,
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with Christ Jesus himself
being the cornerstone.
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So as God was establishing
the foundation of the church
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upon the person and work of
Christ, he called men,
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known as apostles and prophets
to be foundation builders.
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As his apostles, they’re
the foundation of the church.
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What they say,
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Christ says, what they assert
about his ministry is true.
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The Stone
that the builders rejected
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has become
the cornerstone of the Church.
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Jesus chose the Apostles
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to further reveal
the mystery of the Church.
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And finally, God provided
various other prophets
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within the Church
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while the New Testament
was still being written.
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This is the foundation of
the church, according to Paul,
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in Ephesians
2:20, the Apostles and Prophets
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with Christ
as the chief cornerstone.
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It doesn’t make any sense
to think that the foundation
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of a building goes
all the way to the roof.
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It's the foundation.
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This is an historical assertion
that the Apostolate
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was limited to the foundation
period of church history.
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When you see the early
discussions about the canon
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and which books are canonical,
as we would say,
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one of the tests of
canonicity was
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Does this book have apostolic
origin?
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Or is it given a kind of stamp
of approval by the Apostles?
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Now, why is that?
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It's because the Apostles had
certain promises granted to them
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by the Lord Jesus Christ,
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and those promises
related to the ministry
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of the Holy Spirit in their
speaking and in their writing.
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And so the reason why we can say
with confidence that the canon
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is closed
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is because
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we no longer have
those apostles.
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To be a legal proxy
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for Jesus, to be a true apostle,
four things had to be true.
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You had to be hand
picked, chosen by Christ.
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You had to be taught by Christ.
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You had to witness
the resurrected Christ.
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You had to see him risen.
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The fourth qualification
it's found with the 11 in
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Matthew 10, when Jesus said,
I'm sending you out to represent
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me and I'm going to give you
the power to work miracles
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to confirm the revelation that's
going to come through you.
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Miraculous gifts were given
during those early years
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where they were proclaiming
in many cases for the first time
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in a region the event
and the significance of Christ's
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life, death,
resurrection and ascension.
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When Paul defends
his Apostleship
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in Second Corinthians 12,
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he refers to these gifts
as the signs of an apostle
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miraculous abilities
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that either
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the apostles alone had or
there were cases where they
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could lay hands on someone
and give them those gifts.
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But always in the New Testament,
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when those miraculous gifts
are manifest, it is in
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in the presence of an apostle.
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We know that
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there is no apostle today
roaming around planet Earth.
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So with that, the actual gifts
that were associated
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with those apostles
have likewise ceased.
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The gifts
that authenticated the apostles,
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which were the sign gifts,
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particularly gifts
of healing and miracles,
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and then the gifts
that were associated
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with prophets,
which were the revelatory gifts
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which would have included
tongues.
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A Cessationist is one
who believes
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that those gifts ceased
after the apostolic age
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with the death of the Apostle
John around the year 100.
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Those
gifts passed off the scene.
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A Continuationist
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is someone who believes
that the extraordinary gifts,
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prophecy, tongues and healing
have continued and therefore
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they should be pursued
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and exercised by
Christians today.
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Continuationists,
including Pentecostal
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and charismatic groups,
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believe that the New Testament
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encourages them to participate
in the miraculous gifts.
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They find this idea in chapters
12 to 14 of First Corinthians,
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where Paul discusses
the gifts of healing
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tongues and prophecy at length,
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and even charges
the Corinthian church
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to earnestly desire
these gifts of the spirit.
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Yes, we should be seeking
the gifts for sure.
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We want the Holy Spirit
to gift us so that we might care
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for one another
in the body of Christ.
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But in the era
of the Corinthian church,
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the foundation
was still being laid.
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They did need the sign gifts.
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We're not in that era anymore.
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There is no mention
in the second half
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of the first century of signs
and wonders and miracles.
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Once you pass the book
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of First Corinthians,
there is no more mention
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of any miracles
being performed by any apostle.
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He writes nine letters
to different churches, six
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different churches
after the First Corinthians.
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You look at the pastoral
epistles written for the ongoing
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life of the church.
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First Timothy.
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Second Timothy
Titus instructing pastors
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how to conduct life
in the church.
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And there's no mention
of the miraculous gifts.
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You have this lessening
of the miraculous
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as the canon of Scripture moves
toward its completion.
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You have in Acts, for example,
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Paul would send pieces
of fabric out.
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People would be healed by that.
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That's not happening anymore.
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And it wasn't happening
in Paul's time
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either,
because when he learned that
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Timothy had a stomach ailment,
he writes to him and says,
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Take a little wine
for your stomach’s sake.
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He doesn't
send him a handkerchief.
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There's no expectation
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that some healer is going
to come and heal Timothy.
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Paul in Philippians, when
he was so overtaken
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almost by grief
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because of the sickness of his
dear friend, and certainly if
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if the Apostle Paul still had
this miraculous gift of healing,
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he could have done something
about it.
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But instead he
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recognized there's
no sense
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in which that's still happening,
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even at the time of Philippians.
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Then you see
the next generation.
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It becomes churches like ours
where there aren't apostles,
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but they're looking back on that
time.
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The writer of Hebrews writing
just before the destruction
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of the temple, he says, the Lord
spoke this gospel.
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It was confirmed to us by those
who heard meaning the Apostles
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and the Apostles were allowed
to work.
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Signs in miracles
to confirm that message.
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And so even the writer
of Hebrews,
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writing under the auspices
of the Apostles, he says,
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I'm not working miracles.
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That's not happening now.
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The writer of Hebrews
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is looking back and saying
those things were foundational.
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That's not the norm anymore.
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Miracles, signs,
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wonders, and especially direct
Voice of God only occurs
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in three significant eras,
which then was written down
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and inscriptuated
in the inspired Word of God.
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He spoke directly to Moses.
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But then Moses
wrote those things down.
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Same thing with the prophets.
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God did many miraculous things,
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but then those were written down
and became inspired Scripture.
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Same thing with Jesus
and the Apostles.
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Many miracles confirming
that Jesus was the Son of God.
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But then the revelation
that was given
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during that transitional period
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is what we know today
as the New Testament.
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And between those key eras
in the progress
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of redemptive history
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there are long periods
in which God did not
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directly speak to people
as a normal experience.
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Rather, he expected them
to trust the sufficiency
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of what he had written.
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And we are in one of those
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periods now where we ought
to trust the confirmed word
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that God has given to us,
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looking for that blessed hope
when Jesus will come again.
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But we ought to not expect
that God will be doing
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miraculous things, signs and
speaking directly from heaven
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because
we have a sufficient word.
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Jesus rebuked
even those in his own day
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that sought signs and wonders
to validate putting their faith
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in Christ, saying in Matthew
4, a wicked
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and adulterous
generation looks for a sign.
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Later, the apostle Peter
described the glory
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of personally seeing Jesus
during his transfiguration.
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Peter was an eyewitness
of Christ glory,
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but he says in the second Peter
1:19, that the prophetic word
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is even more sure
than his experience.
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Peter even participated
in miracles himself.
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But he points to the Scripture
as a more sure
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foundation.
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The Bible does
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not instruct us to seek
after signs and wonders.
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Instead, we are told
to stop seeking those things
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and to trust
in the finished Word.
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The early church fathers knew
that they were not apostles.
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They knew that
there was something distinct
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about the apostles and distinct
about the apostolic age.
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And so when you get to,
for example, John Chrysostom
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in the East and Augustine
around that same time
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period in the West,
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both Chrysostom
and Augustine are very clear
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that they believe that
the extraordinary, miraculous
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sign gifts ceased after
the end of the apostolic age.
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And that was the de
facto view of Bible believing
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Christians throughout really
all of subsequent
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church history,
including the Reformation.
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The view of the church
has been decidedly Cessationist.
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Then you had a group
of Continuationists,
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especially
Evangelical Continuationists
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who have tried
to find examples of miraculous
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gifts throughout church history.
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But the reality is,
in order to find evidence
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of the miraculous gifts
throughout church history,
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the modern continuationist
has to redefine
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what those gifts are,
what those gifts were.
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They generally do so
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by pointing to fringe movements
and fringe groups
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like the Montanist movement,
which was declared a heresy
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by the early church.
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Now, in the case, the
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Montanists, they make claims
that they are actually
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the fulfillment of Christ's
promise of the Comforter
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of the Holy Spirit.
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They are the ones
who are bringing new revelation
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to the church,
as well as declaring that
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that Christ was coming
very soon,
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even right after their lifetimes
or before the
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end of their lifetimes,
which didn't come to pass.
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Montanus
and the Montanist movement
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was soundly rejected
by the early church.
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And so in the second century,
the early church rejected
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what was tantamount
to the charismatic movement.
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Later on, as we see,
particularly after
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the periods of persecution,
Constantine has come into power.
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Christianity has become
legalized.
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That's the time period
where we see mass expectation
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of the miraculous.
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You do have a kind of
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continuationism
developing in Roman Catholicism.
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Their notion of
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canonizing certain people
as saints was built upon
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the notion of the continuation
of miraculous signs.
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One story says that
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when Saint Patrick
was baptized as an infant.
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The priest was blind
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and couldn't
read the baptismal order.
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So he took the baby's
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hand, made the sign of the cross
over the ground,
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and a spring of water burst
forth to wash the priest's eyes.
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And his vision was restored and
he could perform the baptism.
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Oh, that's just crazy
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legendary stuff.
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Other miracle stories
are associated
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with the supposed power
of relics of dead saints,
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or the bread
and wine of the Eucharist,
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which were, of course,
believed to be Christ's
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actual body
and his actual blood.
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And then you come to the
period of the Reformation.
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It's very clear
that the magisterial reformers,
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Lutheranism and reform movement
coming out of them
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rejected on the one
side, Roman Catholicism.
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On the other side,
they were rejecting
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the anabaptism,
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believing in the revival
of the miraculous gifts.
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The Zwickau
prophets, Thomas Muntzer,
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Melchior Hofmann, Jan Matthys,
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all of whom demonstrated
themselves to be false prophets.
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They claimed that
the Holy Spirit
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was telling them
to incite revolution,
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telling them
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that the New Jerusalem
would be in places
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like Strasbourg
or Münster, Germany.
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Obvious false prophecies.
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And the reformers denounced them
in no uncertain terms.
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In fact, Martin Luther quipped
that the radical reformers
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had swallowed the Holy Spirit
feathers and all,
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which was his way of saying
they had a distorted view
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of the Holy Spirit.
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And then they had gone
headlong after that distortion
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to be in Rome with a Roman
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pontiff who believes that he's
speaking on behalf of the spirit
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and in doing
so is burying the word of God.
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To be
there is not to be Protestant
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and biblical
and to be an Anabaptist.
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The Charismatics of his day,
or someone who believes that
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the Holy Spirit is speaking
through all sorts of people
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outside of the Word of God
and thus bury the Word of God
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is also not to be Protestant.
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In other words,
to believe in Sola Scriptura
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is to be a Cessationist.
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That's
fundamental to Protestantism.
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Thus,
if you are not a Cessationist,
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you are not historically
a Protestant.
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The reformed Orthodox
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in the Puritans
consistently dismissed
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the idea that miraculous gifts
of the Spirit continued
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after the foundational period
of the Christian church.
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in terms of the origins of
the modern charismatic movement.
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I think we have to start
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with someone like John Wesley
in the mid 18th century
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in the Evangelical
Awakening in England.
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He held a two stage
view of sanctification
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that believers are converted
and then they live
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kind of an up and down
Christian life for a while.
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And then it's possible
at a later point post conversion
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to have an experience
that elevates you
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to a higher plane of spiritual
existence or living.
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And in Wesley's view,
you could actually attain
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perfection in this life
prior to glory.
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He called that second experience
the second blessing.
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And one of his successors,
a man named John Fletcher,
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actually associated that with
the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
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Then, a century later, during
the second Great Awakening,
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you have that two stage view
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of sanctification
combined with the emotionalism
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that was popularized by Charles
Finney and others.
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You set the stage
for Charles Parham,
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who was a Wesleyan
Holiness minister, to suggest
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that maybe the second blessing
ought to elevate us to a place
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where, as Christians,
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we experience
the same miraculous sign gifts
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that the Apostles experienced
in the Book of Acts.
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It wasn't really
until the beginning
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of the 20th century
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that the Charismatic Movement
began in earnest.
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There were people
who had tinkered with
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healing gifts and healing
claims up to that point.
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But the gift of tongues
first manifest itself really on
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the very first day
of the 20th century.
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on January 1st, 1901.
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Agnes Ozman,
who was one of the women
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who was studying
under Charles Parham,
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she began speaking in tongues.
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Other students
also began speaking in tongues,
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became known as Pentecostalism,
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because the idea is
that they were speaking
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in the very same
kinds of tongues as the apostles
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on the day of Pentecost.
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And that,
of course, is important
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because the Apostles on
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the day of Pentecost
were speaking in genuine human
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foreign languages,
which they had never learned.
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And Agnes Ozman, Charles Parham,
they all insisted that
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they also were speaking in
genuine human foreign languages,
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which they had never learned.
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In fact, Agnes
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Ozman claimed to be speaking
in the Chinese language.
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Pictures of her
writing survived.
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You look at those pictures
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and it's not Chinese text
at all.
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It's just scribbling.
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One of his students,
William J. Seymour
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came out to Los Angeles,
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and it was
while he was teaching in
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some of those churches
that revival broke out.
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And it's known as the Azusa
Street Revival of 1906.
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And it was characterized
again by speaking in tongues.
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Azusa Street
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is what got Pentecostalism
really started.
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And you have a number
of Pentecostal denominations
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that grow out of that,
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such as the Foursquare Church
and the Assemblies of God.
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Azusa Street Revival represents
the first wave
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of the Pentecostal
and charismatic Movement.
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You have
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the original Pentecostal first
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wave Asuza Street,
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the second wave, the Charismatic
Renewal Movement,
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and the third wave,
the continuationist
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charismatic movement
within evangelicalism.
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Some of the
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best known leaders
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throughout the 20th century
in the Charismatic Movement
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turned out to be fakes
and frauds and
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and for various reasons,
discredited themselves.
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John G. Lake, Amy Semple
McPherson,
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Smith Wigglesworth
or Kathryn Kuhlman
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They were theological heretics.
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They were prolific
false prophets.
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Most of them
were sexually immoral.
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So how is it
that these great generals
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of the Charismatic Movement,
these men and women
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that God supposedly
used to bring about the greatest
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move of His Holy Spirit
since Pentecost were false
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prophets, liars, charlatans,
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and sexually immoral?
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And now here's
the host of the PTL Club
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the president of the PTL
television network, Jim Bakker.
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It actually got worse
from there.
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Please welcome the Colonel,
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Colonel Sanders to PTL.
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The once sacred
turf of television evangelism
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has been slipping
and sliding of late due
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to the disillusioning scandals
of some of the key players
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00:29:28,166 --> 00:29:31,703
In the eighties and nineties
you had a series of scandals
503
00:29:31,703 --> 00:29:34,272
with Jim Bakker and
Jimmy Swaggart
504
00:29:34,272 --> 00:29:37,242
Swaggart is stepping down
from his powerful TV ministry
505
00:29:37,242 --> 00:29:40,111
while the Assembly of God Church
investigated him
506
00:29:40,111 --> 00:29:42,247
for having an affair
with a prostitute.
507
00:29:42,247 --> 00:29:44,983
I have
sinned against you, my Lord.
508
00:29:47,318 --> 00:29:50,755
I have sinned against you,
509
00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:53,792
and I beg your forgiveness.
510
00:29:53,792 --> 00:29:54,459
Jim and Tammy
511
00:29:54,459 --> 00:29:58,797
Faye Bakker and the continuing
saga of the PTL Club have taken
512
00:29:58,797 --> 00:30:02,033
on the irresistible dimensions
of a national soap opera.
513
00:30:02,567 --> 00:30:05,370
Jim Baker was found guilty
on all 24 counts
514
00:30:05,370 --> 00:30:08,373
of wire
and mail fraud and conspiracy.
515
00:30:22,253 --> 00:30:23,221
What's remarkable
516
00:30:23,221 --> 00:30:24,556
is that every one of those men
517
00:30:24,556 --> 00:30:27,425
continued in ministry
and were still accepted
518
00:30:27,425 --> 00:30:30,428
by segments
of the Charismatic Movement.
519
00:30:34,499 --> 00:30:36,868
Dr. Michael Brown is here.
520
00:30:36,868 --> 00:30:38,436
A joy to be back
with all of you.
521
00:30:38,436 --> 00:30:39,771
Thank you.
522
00:30:39,771 --> 00:30:42,607
That doesn't
disqualify a Charismatic.
523
00:30:42,607 --> 00:30:45,343
If you can prove he's a fraud
524
00:30:45,343 --> 00:30:48,346
that works all the way
up to someone like Todd Bentley,
525
00:30:48,513 --> 00:30:52,584
who is probably as despicable
a character as ever,
526
00:30:52,584 --> 00:30:53,785
took the stage
527
00:30:53,785 --> 00:30:55,253
in the name of religion.
528
00:31:10,068 --> 00:31:14,138
He had these ugly
fascinations with violence
529
00:31:14,138 --> 00:31:17,809
and low brow
means of supposedly healing.
530
00:31:31,789 --> 00:31:34,592
It took a long time,
a remarkably long time
531
00:31:34,592 --> 00:31:37,262
for even some of the better
Charismatics
532
00:31:37,262 --> 00:31:40,531
to say, no,
this guy is not real.
533
00:31:40,531 --> 00:31:41,399
He's dangerous.
534
00:31:41,399 --> 00:31:43,501
I remember early on
when he came on the scene,
535
00:31:43,501 --> 00:31:46,404
people asked John Piper
what he thought of him.
536
00:31:46,404 --> 00:31:48,473
Piper
was reluctant to say anything.
537
00:31:48,473 --> 00:31:50,141
He said, I just want to watch
and see.
538
00:31:50,675 --> 00:31:51,809
To turn to
539
00:31:51,943 --> 00:31:56,214
the miraculous gifts tongues,
healing, prophecy.
540
00:31:56,681 --> 00:31:59,651
Where would you say
the place for those gifts
541
00:31:59,651 --> 00:32:01,286
would be in the life
of the church today?
542
00:32:01,286 --> 00:32:01,953
Yeah.
543
00:32:01,953 --> 00:32:05,290
I would want my people to know
I believe in those things.
544
00:32:05,290 --> 00:32:07,492
I want them to flourish
in those things.
545
00:32:07,492 --> 00:32:09,527
You could say ‘got
a word of knowledge for us?
546
00:32:09,527 --> 00:32:10,561
Got a word of prophecy?’
547
00:32:10,561 --> 00:32:12,630
If you're scared of that
kind of language, you can say
548
00:32:12,630 --> 00:32:15,600
has got impressed
upon you, in some way,
549
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,335
Something that you think
somebody in this room
550
00:32:17,335 --> 00:32:21,472
or all of us need to hear
from your walk with God?
551
00:32:21,706 --> 00:32:23,675
And open yourself up
to that.
552
00:32:24,275 --> 00:32:26,711
Piper, Storms,
553
00:32:26,711 --> 00:32:29,814
and Grudem, and Carson
554
00:32:30,448 --> 00:32:34,252
describe themselves
as open but cautious.
555
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:36,454
So here you have
556
00:32:36,454 --> 00:32:39,724
guys with at
least some reformed inclination.
557
00:32:40,458 --> 00:32:43,761
They have been working
really hard to say
558
00:32:43,761 --> 00:32:47,932
They believe in a closed canon
and Sola Scriptura,
559
00:32:48,333 --> 00:32:51,035
even though they also want
to say that they in some sense
560
00:32:51,035 --> 00:32:54,038
they believe in the continuation
of prophecy in tongues.
561
00:32:54,238 --> 00:32:58,476
Once you open the door to the
modern charismatic teachings,
562
00:32:58,910 --> 00:33:01,245
how is your urge
and your prompting
563
00:33:01,245 --> 00:33:03,181
of the Spirit of God different
than Benny Hinn?
564
00:33:03,181 --> 00:33:05,850
And who's to say who's right
in the issue?
565
00:33:13,091 --> 00:33:16,494
I'm not suggesting that anyone
who claims to be a reformed
566
00:33:16,494 --> 00:33:20,598
Charismatic should be classified
in the same category
567
00:33:20,598 --> 00:33:22,300
as a Benny Hinn.
568
00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:23,768
But Benny Hinn’s
569
00:33:23,768 --> 00:33:26,938
positions are very much
connected to the idea
570
00:33:26,938 --> 00:33:28,473
that God is still
speaking today.
571
00:33:28,473 --> 00:33:32,343
So if someone says
God spoke to me, it
572
00:33:32,343 --> 00:33:35,646
becomes the ace of spades
and it trumps everything.
573
00:33:36,180 --> 00:33:39,217
Really,
that's the historic trap.
574
00:33:39,217 --> 00:33:41,152
If you go all the way
back to the Garden of Eden,
575
00:33:41,152 --> 00:33:45,123
you see that
the serpent that he tempts Eve
576
00:33:45,123 --> 00:33:49,193
in such a way as to suggest
that God's Word wasn't enough.
577
00:33:49,694 --> 00:33:52,330
Charismatic
theology has influenced
578
00:33:52,330 --> 00:33:55,333
and affected
so much of our thinking and our
579
00:33:55,466 --> 00:33:58,469
our theology in ways
that we don't often recognize.
580
00:33:58,569 --> 00:34:02,340
And I think that's probably
the most true with our worship
581
00:34:02,940 --> 00:34:04,142
Worship today,
582
00:34:04,142 --> 00:34:06,477
there is this expectation
583
00:34:06,477 --> 00:34:06,978
that if
584
00:34:06,978 --> 00:34:10,548
the Holy Spirit is present
and if we are truly worshiping,
585
00:34:10,815 --> 00:34:15,353
there's sort of going to be this
tangible felt presence of God
586
00:34:16,220 --> 00:34:19,857
which doesn't find
any root in Scripture.
587
00:34:20,491 --> 00:34:23,161
There's no description
in the New Testament of that
588
00:34:23,161 --> 00:34:27,131
sort of expectation that comes
from the charismatic movement
589
00:34:27,498 --> 00:34:28,733
in this expectation
590
00:34:28,733 --> 00:34:32,303
of the signs and wonders
and the felt presence of God.
591
00:34:32,670 --> 00:34:35,673
In fact,
the praise and worship movement,
592
00:34:35,673 --> 00:34:38,776
the praise and worship
theology comes directly
593
00:34:38,776 --> 00:34:42,113
out of Pentecostalism
and Charismaticism.
594
00:34:42,413 --> 00:34:45,883
But it has now branched
beyond Charismaticism
595
00:34:46,084 --> 00:34:48,486
to where even churches
who don't affirm
596
00:34:48,486 --> 00:34:51,956
the continuation of sign gifts,
who claim to be Cessationist,
597
00:34:52,256 --> 00:34:56,594
nevertheless worship
as if we are expecting
598
00:34:56,594 --> 00:34:57,428
this sort of felt
599
00:34:57,428 --> 00:35:00,431
presence of God in the context
of corporate worship.
600
00:35:00,498 --> 00:35:03,901
The Charismatic Movement is
extraordinary in church history.
601
00:35:03,901 --> 00:35:05,536
It's the first time
602
00:35:05,536 --> 00:35:06,070
that these
603
00:35:06,070 --> 00:35:09,740
sort of miracle claims
have moved in to the mainstream
604
00:35:09,740 --> 00:35:13,311
and become what probably if you
just did a numerical count,
605
00:35:13,511 --> 00:35:17,315
you'd find it's a majority
who believe these claims.
606
00:35:17,315 --> 00:35:21,452
And yet most of the claims
are pretty easily falsifiable.
607
00:35:23,020 --> 00:35:24,188
My name is Andreas.
608
00:35:24,188 --> 00:35:26,924
I come from Switzerland
and I'm a former
609
00:35:26,924 --> 00:35:29,127
Charismatic, now Cessationist.
610
00:35:29,127 --> 00:35:30,628
Virgil Walker.
611
00:35:30,928 --> 00:35:33,698
I have been involved in
612
00:35:33,698 --> 00:35:36,701
what was called the COGIC
Church. Church of God in Christ.
613
00:35:36,934 --> 00:35:41,606
I'm Kofi and for really 17
years of my life,
614
00:35:41,606 --> 00:35:45,009
I grew up as a Pentecostal
charismatic.
615
00:35:45,810 --> 00:35:48,513
My name is Becky,
and I come from a Pentecostal
616
00:35:48,513 --> 00:35:50,715
Foursquare denomination
background.
617
00:35:50,715 --> 00:35:54,051
I think what attracted me to the
denomination was the passion,
618
00:35:55,186 --> 00:35:57,121
you know, the excitement
to being actually
619
00:35:57,121 --> 00:36:00,091
excited to go to church,
wanting to go to church.
620
00:36:00,191 --> 00:36:00,992
We went to church.
621
00:36:00,992 --> 00:36:02,460
People spoke in tongues,
622
00:36:02,460 --> 00:36:04,529
People laid hands on people
and they fell out.
623
00:36:04,529 --> 00:36:06,597
Friday night
you would come to church.
624
00:36:06,597 --> 00:36:08,132
They would have these
purging sessions
625
00:36:08,132 --> 00:36:11,502
and the pastor would walk down
the aisles and lay
626
00:36:11,502 --> 00:36:14,972
hands on people and they would
kind of convulse to the floor.
627
00:36:15,573 --> 00:36:18,576
He was speaking in tongues
over us.
628
00:36:19,010 --> 00:36:22,013
My sister was there,
and then she fell.
629
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,582
And then I'm like,
I'm going to fall.
630
00:36:24,582 --> 00:36:27,218
I'm going to fall.
And then I just eventually fell.
631
00:36:27,218 --> 00:36:28,286
People prophesied.
632
00:36:28,286 --> 00:36:29,887
And for me,
that was just normal.
633
00:36:29,887 --> 00:36:32,490
Everyday Christianity is what
Christians did.
634
00:36:32,490 --> 00:36:35,660
You're expecting to have
those things happen to you.
635
00:36:35,993 --> 00:36:39,864
Everyone else
is in this state of mind.
636
00:36:41,132 --> 00:36:43,801
I want to
say it's some sort of hypnosis.
637
00:36:43,801 --> 00:36:47,205
All the spiritual exercises
that are there really began
638
00:36:47,205 --> 00:36:50,374
to cause cracks somewhat
in my Christian worldview.
639
00:36:50,374 --> 00:36:53,311
So I had to figure out
what's really going on
640
00:36:53,311 --> 00:36:54,845
in this movement.
641
00:36:56,781 --> 00:36:59,784
When you compare
the biblical gift
642
00:36:59,850 --> 00:37:04,355
of prophecy, tongues
and healing to the modern
643
00:37:04,355 --> 00:37:07,358
continuationist version,
what you find
644
00:37:07,425 --> 00:37:10,928
is that prophecy, tongues,
and healing in the New Testament
645
00:37:10,928 --> 00:37:12,897
meant something way different
646
00:37:12,897 --> 00:37:15,900
than the way in which
those same terms are being used
647
00:37:15,900 --> 00:37:20,271
In the modern charismatic world.
Continuationists have redefined
648
00:37:20,271 --> 00:37:24,542
the gifts showing the disconnect
between what's happening today
649
00:37:24,742 --> 00:37:26,577
and what was actually happening,
650
00:37:26,577 --> 00:37:29,580
that was truly miraculous
in the New Testament.
651
00:38:24,468 --> 00:38:26,370
The first time
the word prophet is mentioned in
652
00:38:26,370 --> 00:38:27,571
the Bible is in Genesis,
653
00:38:27,571 --> 00:38:30,841
but there's not much definition
given to it. The first time
654
00:38:30,841 --> 00:38:32,576
there's definition
given as an Exodus
655
00:38:32,576 --> 00:38:34,245
chapter seven.
656
00:38:34,245 --> 00:38:37,381
It's a fascinating passage
because what the Lord does
657
00:38:37,381 --> 00:38:38,916
is he explains to Moses
658
00:38:38,916 --> 00:38:41,986
how his relationship to Aaron
is supposed to work
659
00:38:41,986 --> 00:38:44,789
and how Aaron is supposed
to preach to Pharaoh.
660
00:38:44,789 --> 00:38:47,792
And what he says is Moses,
in this scenario,
661
00:38:47,825 --> 00:38:51,529
you are going to be like me
and Aaron is going to be
662
00:38:51,529 --> 00:38:53,097
like a prophet.
663
00:38:53,097 --> 00:38:55,533
You'll speak to Aaron, and Aaron
664
00:38:55,533 --> 00:38:58,502
will say
what you said to Pharaoh.
665
00:38:58,703 --> 00:39:01,072
And so it shows the relationship
between the Prophet
666
00:39:01,072 --> 00:39:02,039
as the recipient
667
00:39:02,039 --> 00:39:05,042
of God's revelation
and what he is charged to do.
668
00:39:05,042 --> 00:39:08,012
What the real prophet does
is quite simply,
669
00:39:08,112 --> 00:39:12,750
he's given a message by the Lord
and he proclaims it to the one
670
00:39:13,017 --> 00:39:15,986
to whom the Lord told Him
to proclaim it.
671
00:39:15,986 --> 00:39:16,887
The biblical word
672
00:39:16,887 --> 00:39:20,591
that we translate as prophet
literally means mouthpiece.
673
00:39:21,258 --> 00:39:21,992
The prophet
674
00:39:21,992 --> 00:39:25,663
became God's functional mouth
by which God would speak.
675
00:39:25,996 --> 00:39:28,699
God use the man as an instrument
676
00:39:28,699 --> 00:39:31,769
to immediately
deliver his exact message,
677
00:39:32,703 --> 00:39:35,439
not by
bypassing the Prophet's mind,
678
00:39:35,439 --> 00:39:39,243
but by preserving the exact
words that God intended for him
679
00:39:39,243 --> 00:39:40,344
to speak.
680
00:39:40,344 --> 00:39:44,281
A true could not speak error
in the name of the Lord
681
00:39:44,582 --> 00:39:48,152
because God supernaturally
protects his own message.
682
00:39:48,619 --> 00:39:51,622
As with everything else
in the Bible,
683
00:39:51,989 --> 00:39:54,859
you have the real thing
and you can have counterfeits.
684
00:39:54,859 --> 00:39:58,829
And so the Bible speaks a great
deal about false prophets.
685
00:39:59,230 --> 00:40:02,233
I mean, they were actually
to be executed.
686
00:40:02,633 --> 00:40:03,901
Why would that be?
687
00:40:03,901 --> 00:40:06,971
Because God guards
his own revelation.
688
00:40:07,505 --> 00:40:09,273
He magnifies his word.
689
00:40:09,273 --> 00:40:12,243
Above all is his holy name,
we're told, in Scripture.
690
00:40:12,343 --> 00:40:16,480
And so those who come claiming
to speak on God's behalf
691
00:40:16,981 --> 00:40:20,017
in the name of God
with the very Word of God, are
692
00:40:20,017 --> 00:40:24,688
held to very, very, very high
standards of accountability.
693
00:40:25,356 --> 00:40:29,226
And those who are proven
false ended up therefore
694
00:40:29,427 --> 00:40:33,364
having to suffer very, very,
very high forms of
695
00:40:33,397 --> 00:40:34,598
punishment as a result.
696
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,402
You go back through
the Old Testament prophets
697
00:40:38,402 --> 00:40:40,571
and you read in Ezekiel
and Jeremiah
698
00:40:40,571 --> 00:40:42,673
about how the Lord describes
the false prophets
699
00:40:42,673 --> 00:40:45,276
who took his name
and his word upon their mouth
700
00:40:45,276 --> 00:40:48,279
and began to say things that God
had not directed them to say.
701
00:40:48,579 --> 00:40:50,748
And the Lord has these
scathing rebukes
702
00:40:50,748 --> 00:40:52,383
for these false prophets,
where he says,
703
00:40:52,383 --> 00:40:54,218
they say that I sent them,
but I have not sent them,
704
00:40:54,218 --> 00:40:56,821
and they claim to speak for me,
but I have not spoken by them.
705
00:40:56,821 --> 00:40:57,755
And then the Lord says,
706
00:40:57,755 --> 00:41:00,758
I will therefore
judge these false prophets.
707
00:41:01,692 --> 00:41:03,761
And some of the severest
judgment is upon
708
00:41:03,761 --> 00:41:05,696
those who claim to speak for God
709
00:41:05,696 --> 00:41:08,699
but were not in fact
hearing from God.
710
00:41:09,099 --> 00:41:11,402
What are the gravest dangers
of the Charismatic movement is
711
00:41:11,402 --> 00:41:13,137
that they will put words in
God's mouth
712
00:41:13,137 --> 00:41:15,773
and they think nothing of it
at all.
713
00:41:15,773 --> 00:41:17,107
I believe prophecy,
714
00:41:17,107 --> 00:41:19,577
if I can steal Wayne Grudem’s
simple phrase,
715
00:41:19,577 --> 00:41:22,880
is simply speaking forth
in merely human words
716
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,316
What God has spontaneously
brought to mind.
717
00:41:25,316 --> 00:41:28,886
They’re subtle faint
impressions, like little nudges
718
00:41:28,886 --> 00:41:32,089
and divine hints,
and that individual then
719
00:41:32,089 --> 00:41:35,960
speaking forth what they sensed
God had been saying.
720
00:41:36,327 --> 00:41:38,496
They say things like,
I feel the Lord is telling me.
721
00:41:38,496 --> 00:41:40,798
I sense
the Lord is speaking to my heart
722
00:41:40,798 --> 00:41:42,733
and that
and He might want me to do this.
723
00:41:42,733 --> 00:41:45,369
I think this is what the Lord
might be trying to tell me.
724
00:41:45,369 --> 00:41:46,170
Here's what I believe
725
00:41:46,170 --> 00:41:49,673
the Holy Spirit has impressed
upon my heart.
726
00:41:49,673 --> 00:41:54,211
For the year of 2023,
the rise of the Wild Ones
727
00:41:54,478 --> 00:41:58,816
to be able to confront systems
728
00:41:58,816 --> 00:42:01,952
that have been oppressing
God's people.
729
00:42:02,219 --> 00:42:03,787
The Lord's also
been speaking to me
730
00:42:03,787 --> 00:42:06,123
significantly
about relationships,
731
00:42:06,123 --> 00:42:07,925
and He's going to change
your circles
732
00:42:07,925 --> 00:42:09,393
to change your levels.
733
00:42:09,393 --> 00:42:12,496
You need to evaluate it,
need to determine whether or not
734
00:42:12,930 --> 00:42:13,564
this really,
735
00:42:13,564 --> 00:42:15,766
in fact,
is something that we could have
736
00:42:15,766 --> 00:42:17,801
some degree of
confidence is from God.
737
00:42:17,801 --> 00:42:20,571
I gave prophetic words
to people, to someone
738
00:42:20,571 --> 00:42:23,741
have a word, and it was like
that adrenaline starts to come.
739
00:42:23,741 --> 00:42:26,510
And I remember
just saying something like,
740
00:42:26,510 --> 00:42:28,779
you know,
the Lord wants our obedience.
741
00:42:28,779 --> 00:42:32,082
If we could only obey God
in 80 percent
742
00:42:33,117 --> 00:42:34,852
of that obedience,
743
00:42:34,852 --> 00:42:36,620
then give that 80 percent.
744
00:42:36,620 --> 00:42:38,455
Give 100 percent
of that 80 percent.
745
00:42:38,856 --> 00:42:41,859
You know?
746
00:42:41,892 --> 00:42:45,362
So dumb.
747
00:42:46,530 --> 00:42:48,499
the way it was often
explained was, yes, God
748
00:42:48,499 --> 00:42:52,636
gave us the Bible for sort of
general moral direction
749
00:42:52,836 --> 00:42:54,738
and telling us the truth
about him,
750
00:42:54,738 --> 00:42:57,074
but for a specific direction.
751
00:42:57,074 --> 00:42:59,577
This is how God acts as a loving
father to us.
752
00:42:59,577 --> 00:43:01,745
You know, he doesn't just
leave us to figure out things.
753
00:43:01,745 --> 00:43:05,416
Sometimes he will directly speak
to us and tell us what we need
754
00:43:05,416 --> 00:43:10,120
to know, Tell us what to do,
give us direction in real time.
755
00:43:10,921 --> 00:43:16,393
For example, if I say that
the Holy Spirit spoke to me.
756
00:43:16,393 --> 00:43:17,828
Take this job.
757
00:43:17,828 --> 00:43:20,598
Don't take this job,
but take this job.
758
00:43:20,598 --> 00:43:22,833
It's a word from the Lord.
759
00:43:22,833 --> 00:43:25,803
So there is love Bible,
the Word of God.
760
00:43:25,869 --> 00:43:27,805
And then through history,
God has led his people,
761
00:43:27,805 --> 00:43:29,940
spoken to His people,
directed his people.
762
00:43:29,940 --> 00:43:32,343
He continues to do that,
but it's not the Bible.
763
00:43:32,343 --> 00:43:35,179
So there are two completely
separate animals.
764
00:43:35,179 --> 00:43:38,649
The view of continuing
revelation would in fact lower
765
00:43:38,649 --> 00:43:40,684
people's view of Scripture.
766
00:43:40,684 --> 00:43:42,987
When we have these
two sources of revelation,
767
00:43:42,987 --> 00:43:46,190
the the me-specific voice
inside of my head,
768
00:43:46,290 --> 00:43:49,660
and then this object of thing
that was spoken 2000 years ago
769
00:43:49,860 --> 00:43:51,328
when those two things
were in conflict,
770
00:43:51,328 --> 00:43:54,331
which one do you think ends up
giving way to the other?
771
00:43:54,465 --> 00:43:57,468
It's always the word of God
that ends up getting redefined,
772
00:43:57,501 --> 00:44:01,538
reinterpreted or pushed off
to the side or ignored in favor
773
00:44:01,538 --> 00:44:05,442
of the personal, fresh, modern,
intimate revelation from God.
774
00:44:06,977 --> 00:44:09,279
The problem with
the Charismatic Movement today
775
00:44:09,279 --> 00:44:10,514
is that they don't have
776
00:44:10,514 --> 00:44:14,118
a single prophet who has
been 100 percent accurate.
777
00:44:14,351 --> 00:44:17,721
The honest Charismatics
will admit that they are wrong
778
00:44:17,921 --> 00:44:20,290
far more often
than they are right.
779
00:44:20,290 --> 00:44:24,461
If you used a magic eight ball
to make all of your choices,
780
00:44:25,295 --> 00:44:28,265
you'd be right
at least half the time.
781
00:44:28,265 --> 00:44:31,335
And charismatic prophets
are wrong more often than that.
782
00:44:31,969 --> 00:44:34,972
So I ask
what is the value of this gift?
783
00:44:35,506 --> 00:44:38,776
As a younger prophet,
I've tried to do the best
784
00:44:38,776 --> 00:44:40,878
that I can,
you know, to kind of navigate
785
00:44:40,878 --> 00:44:44,214
the plans of the Lord that
I had had a series of dreams.
786
00:44:44,615 --> 00:44:46,650
At the end of 2020,
787
00:44:46,650 --> 00:44:50,020
I had seen Donald Trump
being elected president.
788
00:44:50,454 --> 00:44:54,191
Many of the modern day
prophets made a lot of news
789
00:44:54,291 --> 00:44:56,060
with their presidential
790
00:44:56,060 --> 00:44:59,997
prophecies, their prophecies
of who would win the 2020
791
00:44:59,997 --> 00:45:01,732
United States
presidential election.
792
00:45:01,732 --> 00:45:02,499
Of course,
793
00:45:02,499 --> 00:45:05,903
all of them, 100% of them,
prophesied that Donald Trump
794
00:45:06,203 --> 00:45:09,006
would win reelection
in November of 2020,
795
00:45:09,006 --> 00:45:10,174
and he would serve a second
796
00:45:10,174 --> 00:45:11,975
consecutive term
in the White House.
797
00:45:11,975 --> 00:45:14,912
The fireman prophet
also predicts the church will
798
00:45:14,912 --> 00:45:17,281
thrive. Will be an eight year
presidency?
799
00:45:17,281 --> 00:45:18,382
Absolutely.
800
00:45:18,382 --> 00:45:21,085
When I
woke up this morning, I heard
801
00:45:22,653 --> 00:45:24,455
four years.
802
00:45:24,455 --> 00:45:26,490
TRUMP!
803
00:45:26,490 --> 00:45:28,992
Well, obviously
that did not happen.
804
00:45:28,992 --> 00:45:31,862
And they just did this
massive face plant.
805
00:45:31,862 --> 00:45:36,100
I really want to apologize,
sincerely apologize,
806
00:45:36,266 --> 00:45:39,403
for missing the prophecy
about Donald Trump.
807
00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:42,406
I prophesied that he would win
another term,
808
00:45:42,406 --> 00:45:44,208
and I was completely wrong.
809
00:45:44,208 --> 00:45:48,946
We went through this season of
me offering a letter of apology
810
00:45:48,946 --> 00:45:52,449
to the Body of Christ
for what I believe was a miss.
811
00:45:53,650 --> 00:45:56,587
It doesn't make me
a false prophet, but it does
812
00:45:56,587 --> 00:45:58,889
actually create
a credibility gap.
813
00:45:58,889 --> 00:46:01,959
I want to look into the reasons
why there is a
814
00:46:02,826 --> 00:46:03,961
disconnection there.
815
00:46:03,961 --> 00:46:05,262
In what I heard.
816
00:46:05,262 --> 00:46:08,565
They also failed
to prophesy COVID coming
817
00:46:09,099 --> 00:46:10,801
even when COVID did come
818
00:46:10,801 --> 00:46:12,402
Then they began to prophesy
819
00:46:12,402 --> 00:46:16,240
that it would be gone
by April of 2020.
820
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:17,875
Well, that didn't happen.
821
00:46:19,076 --> 00:46:21,879
I command this this, this virus
822
00:46:21,879 --> 00:46:25,382
to to to leave both,
to leave people's
823
00:46:25,382 --> 00:46:29,186
minds, to leave people's hearts,
to leave, to leave the earth.
824
00:46:29,386 --> 00:46:32,556
I just, I command this virus to
leave right now in Jesus’ name,
825
00:46:33,490 --> 00:46:36,493
in biblical times, if you get up
and you speak in God's name
826
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:40,063
and that's not God's Word,
you were stoned to death.
827
00:46:40,931 --> 00:46:44,768
But today somebody does that
and either it's inconsequential
828
00:46:45,068 --> 00:46:47,538
or it doesn't come true,
nothing happens.
829
00:46:47,538 --> 00:46:49,139
It's just another day ending
in Y
830
00:46:49,139 --> 00:46:50,507
in the Charismatic community,
831
00:46:50,507 --> 00:46:52,709
They at least should be
exocommunicated.
832
00:46:52,709 --> 00:46:54,845
If the word ends up false
833
00:46:54,845 --> 00:46:56,380
or wrong, let's call it wrong
834
00:46:56,380 --> 00:46:58,382
False sounds like he got a demon
or something.
835
00:46:58,382 --> 00:46:59,716
You know, a false word.
836
00:46:59,716 --> 00:47:02,719
That means like the brothers got
horns, you know, he missed it.
837
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,288
He just missed it.
838
00:47:04,288 --> 00:47:07,291
If they humble themselves and
say, okay, we got this wrong.
839
00:47:07,524 --> 00:47:10,460
We apologize for hurting
your faith and misleading you.
840
00:47:10,460 --> 00:47:12,262
Let's
figure out what went wrong.
841
00:47:12,262 --> 00:47:12,963
Great.
842
00:47:12,963 --> 00:47:14,765
Then we don't throw them
under the bus
843
00:47:14,765 --> 00:47:17,267
and we work it out.
How did this go wrong?
844
00:47:17,267 --> 00:47:18,902
How did so many
hear the wrong thing?
845
00:47:18,902 --> 00:47:19,937
And I believe there are actually
846
00:47:19,937 --> 00:47:22,372
some simple answers
to those questions.
847
00:47:22,372 --> 00:47:25,242
I was not aware that I was under
848
00:47:25,242 --> 00:47:28,912
the power of witchcraft
so severely.
849
00:47:29,279 --> 00:47:33,450
I was confronted by a couple
of prophets who said, We're here
850
00:47:33,450 --> 00:47:36,587
to break the power of witchcraft
off of you.
851
00:47:36,587 --> 00:47:38,222
It's been a pretty wild ride.
852
00:47:38,522 --> 00:47:41,892
And I was going to say,
I can see the peace on you.
853
00:47:42,092 --> 00:47:44,228
We've had some different things
that are said over 30 years
854
00:47:44,228 --> 00:47:46,964
and we've put out statements
and said, this was wrong.
855
00:47:46,964 --> 00:47:49,266
And you know
what? We're not quitting.
856
00:47:49,266 --> 00:47:50,667
But the guy said it was wrong.
857
00:47:50,667 --> 00:47:52,436
It's not a big deal.
858
00:47:52,436 --> 00:47:56,974
I’ve never had to make a public
apology for a bad prophetic word
859
00:47:56,974 --> 00:47:57,608
that I've given.
860
00:47:57,608 --> 00:47:59,643
This is my very first time.
861
00:47:59,643 --> 00:48:01,612
I know I’ll learn from it.
862
00:48:03,013 --> 00:48:05,949
And they're
back on TV in the next week
863
00:48:05,949 --> 00:48:08,952
filling auditoriums
and conferences.
864
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,123
No consequences, whatever.
865
00:48:13,290 --> 00:48:16,126
Charismatics will acknowledge
that Old Testament
866
00:48:16,126 --> 00:48:19,196
prophets were held to a standard
of 100 percent perfection.
867
00:48:19,830 --> 00:48:22,833
But they somehow say that, well,
in the New Testament,
868
00:48:23,133 --> 00:48:25,836
prophets today aren’t held
to the same standard
869
00:48:25,836 --> 00:48:28,171
that the Old Testament
prophets were.
870
00:48:28,639 --> 00:48:33,443
The New Testament gift differs
from that which Isaiah or Daniel
871
00:48:33,443 --> 00:48:36,446
or some other Old Testament
prophet spoke
872
00:48:36,747 --> 00:48:38,015
in the Old Testament
873
00:48:38,015 --> 00:48:41,018
If you said it wrong
once, you're false.
874
00:48:41,251 --> 00:48:43,787
But in the New Testament
we judge one another.
875
00:48:43,787 --> 00:48:45,222
And the reason
we judge one another,
876
00:48:45,222 --> 00:48:48,025
because there are
some things said wrong.
877
00:48:48,025 --> 00:48:50,761
The Charismatic scholar Wayne
Graham states
878
00:48:50,761 --> 00:48:54,164
that prophecy in ordinary
New Testament churches
879
00:48:54,164 --> 00:48:57,167
was not equal
to Scripture in authority,
880
00:48:57,267 --> 00:49:01,238
but was simply a very human
and sometimes partially mistaken
881
00:49:01,238 --> 00:49:02,739
report of something
882
00:49:02,739 --> 00:49:05,742
that the Holy Spirit
brought to someone's mind.
883
00:49:05,943 --> 00:49:09,212
The Continuationist view of
ongoing prophecy,
884
00:49:09,212 --> 00:49:11,081
allows for modern prophets
885
00:49:11,081 --> 00:49:15,319
to speak on God's behalf
with less than perfect accuracy
886
00:49:15,552 --> 00:49:18,355
because they have concluded
that prophets in the New
887
00:49:18,355 --> 00:49:22,125
Testament operate differently
than Old Testament prophets.
888
00:49:22,626 --> 00:49:23,727
In their view,
889
00:49:23,727 --> 00:49:26,897
God gives a direct revelation
to the prophet’s mind,
890
00:49:27,331 --> 00:49:28,832
but the mind of the Prophet
891
00:49:28,832 --> 00:49:32,569
is not protected from
mishearing, misinterpreting,
892
00:49:32,803 --> 00:49:36,406
or otherwise misrepresenting
God's true revelation.
893
00:49:37,007 --> 00:49:40,744
They believe that this results
in a prophecy that is a mixture
894
00:49:40,744 --> 00:49:44,848
of God's true revelation
and the prophets own thoughts.
895
00:49:45,282 --> 00:49:48,452
The resulting prophecy
might even be completely false,
896
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:50,687
since the prophet
so misunderstood
897
00:49:50,687 --> 00:49:52,422
God's word to them.
898
00:49:52,422 --> 00:49:54,558
In this way
they end up believing
899
00:49:54,558 --> 00:49:58,562
that there are true prophets
who can make false prophecies.
900
00:49:59,730 --> 00:50:03,166
Prophecy when it comes,
is like pure, like spring water.
901
00:50:03,166 --> 00:50:04,801
It's delicious, right?
902
00:50:04,801 --> 00:50:07,771
The person giving
it is like a rusty old pipe.
903
00:50:08,438 --> 00:50:11,441
And then by the time
it gets to me, I'm like, Oh,
904
00:50:11,742 --> 00:50:12,609
and they give me a word.
905
00:50:12,609 --> 00:50:15,445
And I go, Yeah,
that's not, none of that's true.
906
00:50:15,445 --> 00:50:16,680
None of that's true.
907
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,683
I appreciate that the brother
stepped out in faith to do it
908
00:50:20,450 --> 00:50:21,184
right?
909
00:50:21,184 --> 00:50:24,087
But he was, in fact, wrong.
Okay.
910
00:50:24,087 --> 00:50:26,456
And that's going to happen.
911
00:50:26,456 --> 00:50:27,591
I'm not saying they're false
prophets.
912
00:50:27,591 --> 00:50:29,626
I'm just saying they're bad
ones.
913
00:50:29,626 --> 00:50:32,329
There's a difference between a
false prophet and a bad prophet.
914
00:50:32,329 --> 00:50:33,563
False prophet has an evil heart.
915
00:50:33,563 --> 00:50:36,566
A bad prophet
just gets everything wrong.
916
00:50:38,268 --> 00:50:39,603
The question is what
917
00:50:39,603 --> 00:50:41,038
What is a false prophet?
918
00:50:41,038 --> 00:50:45,342
In Acts chapter
21, Agabus prophesies about Paul
919
00:50:45,442 --> 00:50:49,346
Agabus said that the,
that the Jews would bind to Paul
920
00:50:49,346 --> 00:50:52,082
and they would hand him over
to the Gentiles.
921
00:50:52,082 --> 00:50:54,418
What actually happened
is that the Gentiles
922
00:50:54,418 --> 00:50:57,421
bound Paul
and turned him over to the Jews.
923
00:50:57,921 --> 00:50:59,222
Now, what's the point?
924
00:50:59,222 --> 00:50:59,956
The point is,
925
00:50:59,956 --> 00:51:03,860
is that there's a difference
between a bad prophetic word and
926
00:51:03,860 --> 00:51:04,828
a false prophet.
927
00:51:06,063 --> 00:51:08,365
So in
attempting to make the case
928
00:51:08,365 --> 00:51:12,836
for the second tier
of New Testament prophecy,
929
00:51:13,170 --> 00:51:16,973
they look for examples
in the New Testament
930
00:51:16,973 --> 00:51:20,243
of prophets
who got their prophecy wrong.
931
00:51:20,677 --> 00:51:23,680
And the problem is
there are no examples.
932
00:51:23,847 --> 00:51:26,216
but they attempt
to find an example
933
00:51:26,216 --> 00:51:29,252
in chapter 21
with the Prophet Agabus.
934
00:51:30,153 --> 00:51:33,623
So here's Agabus.
He predicted a famine.
935
00:51:33,623 --> 00:51:36,626
He's well known as a prophet
in the Jerusalem church,
936
00:51:37,027 --> 00:51:38,662
and well know
probably amongst the apostles
937
00:51:38,662 --> 00:51:40,163
because of the predicting
that famine.
938
00:51:40,163 --> 00:51:43,166
Agabus - a prophet - was wrong.
939
00:51:45,435 --> 00:51:47,237
Agabus gave a prophecy.
940
00:51:47,237 --> 00:51:51,308
He takes Paul's belt
and he says,
941
00:51:51,641 --> 00:51:55,312
thus says the Holy Spirit. Paul,
when he gets to
942
00:51:55,312 --> 00:51:59,616
Jerusalem, is going to be bound
by the Jews with his belt
943
00:51:59,983 --> 00:52:02,986
and delivered
over to the Romans.
944
00:52:03,820 --> 00:52:06,556
And then when you read later
in Acts 21,
945
00:52:06,556 --> 00:52:11,061
Paul gets to Jerusalem and
he is accosted by a Jewish mob.
946
00:52:11,461 --> 00:52:15,866
And then the Romans show up
and take Paul into custody.
947
00:52:16,533 --> 00:52:18,168
And Continuationists
look at that.
948
00:52:18,168 --> 00:52:22,506
And they say, see,
Agabus got the general scope
949
00:52:22,506 --> 00:52:25,942
of his prophecy correct,
but he got the details wrong.
950
00:52:46,196 --> 00:52:49,199
There are two core elements
to Agabus’ prophecy.
951
00:52:49,199 --> 00:52:52,402
Number one, that he would be
bound by the Jews,
952
00:52:52,602 --> 00:52:55,605
and number two, that he would be
delivered over to the Romans.
953
00:52:56,506 --> 00:52:59,276
Luke says that Paul was seized
954
00:52:59,276 --> 00:53:02,746
and dragged by the mob
there in the temple.
955
00:53:02,913 --> 00:53:05,782
When Paul appears
before Agrippa, he again
956
00:53:05,782 --> 00:53:08,985
says that the Jews seized me in
the temple.
957
00:53:09,419 --> 00:53:11,821
Paul was restrained in some way
958
00:53:11,821 --> 00:53:14,724
and the natural
implication of the text
959
00:53:14,724 --> 00:53:17,727
is that what Agabus said
would happen did happen,
960
00:53:17,928 --> 00:53:21,097
and Luke just didn't find it
necessary to repeat the detail
961
00:53:21,097 --> 00:53:24,034
That was obviously predicted
from beforehand.
962
00:53:24,034 --> 00:53:26,303
How did the Jews sieze Paul?
963
00:53:26,303 --> 00:53:28,438
It's likely
that they tethered him
964
00:53:28,438 --> 00:53:31,775
using his own belt
just as Agabus prophesied.
965
00:53:32,642 --> 00:53:34,878
What about the delivering over?
966
00:53:34,878 --> 00:53:38,481
When the Roman soldiers arrive,
the Jewish mob
967
00:53:38,715 --> 00:53:43,019
backs away and hands
Paul over to the Romans.
968
00:53:43,386 --> 00:53:46,089
And to make that point crystal
clear all the way in Acts
969
00:53:46,089 --> 00:53:51,027
chapter 28, when Paul is meeting
with Jewish leaders in Rome,
970
00:53:51,361 --> 00:53:54,598
he says explicitly
using the exact same word
971
00:53:54,798 --> 00:53:58,602
that he was delivered over
from Jerusalem to the Romans.
972
00:53:59,803 --> 00:54:01,471
Paul didn't think that Agabus
973
00:54:01,471 --> 00:54:04,441
got any of the details
of his prophecy wrong.
974
00:54:04,474 --> 00:54:05,642
Luke doesn't imply
975
00:54:05,642 --> 00:54:08,378
that he got any of the details
of his prophecy wrong.
976
00:54:08,378 --> 00:54:12,082
When you look through church
history at Bible interpreters,
977
00:54:12,215 --> 00:54:16,086
no one even imagines
the possibility that Agabus
978
00:54:16,186 --> 00:54:17,721
got his prophecy wrong.
979
00:54:17,721 --> 00:54:21,391
It's not until the modern 20th
century Continuationist
980
00:54:21,391 --> 00:54:24,394
view of prophecy
that anyone even suggests
981
00:54:24,561 --> 00:54:26,763
that Agabus got the details
wrong.
982
00:54:26,763 --> 00:54:30,000
It's not so much that I'm
defending Agabus’ reputation.
983
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,502
Agabus is in heaven.
He doesn't care.
984
00:54:32,502 --> 00:54:36,539
It's that Agabus
is quoting the Holy Spirit,
985
00:54:36,906 --> 00:54:39,776
and Luke records
that quote under the inspiration
986
00:54:39,776 --> 00:54:40,677
of the Holy Spirit.
987
00:54:40,677 --> 00:54:43,179
So we have a quote
from the Holy Spirit
988
00:54:43,179 --> 00:54:46,182
recorded in the Holy Spirit
inspired Scriptures.
989
00:54:46,216 --> 00:54:49,219
If you're telling me
that the details of that quote
990
00:54:49,352 --> 00:54:52,322
are wrong, you're telling me
that the Holy Spirit
991
00:54:52,589 --> 00:54:55,759
got something wrong
and that is blasphemous.
992
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:58,862
No new
993
00:54:58,862 --> 00:55:02,699
definition of prophecy
is given by Jesus Christ.
994
00:55:03,033 --> 00:55:05,702
No new definition of prophecy
995
00:55:05,702 --> 00:55:08,705
can be found
any place in the New Testament.
996
00:55:08,872 --> 00:55:13,209
And in fact, the Jews,
to whom the teaching of Jesus
997
00:55:13,209 --> 00:55:14,611
and the Apostles came,
998
00:55:14,611 --> 00:55:17,614
would have rejected
a new definition of prophecy
999
00:55:17,814 --> 00:55:19,449
when they had in their canon
1000
00:55:19,449 --> 00:55:22,419
a very clear definition
of prophecy already.
1001
00:55:22,419 --> 00:55:25,588
In Deuteronomy 18, Moses
prophesies
1002
00:55:25,588 --> 00:55:26,323
the coming of the
1003
00:55:26,323 --> 00:55:30,126
ultimate New Testament
Prophet Jesus Christ himself.
1004
00:55:30,593 --> 00:55:32,495
He then tells the people
as they look
1005
00:55:32,495 --> 00:55:35,165
forward to this prophet,
exactly how they are
1006
00:55:35,165 --> 00:55:38,535
to differentiate false prophets
from true prophets.
1007
00:55:39,035 --> 00:55:40,470
He instructs.
1008
00:55:40,470 --> 00:55:42,572
If you say in your heart,
1009
00:55:42,572 --> 00:55:45,842
how may we know the word
that the Lord has not spoken?
1010
00:55:46,309 --> 00:55:49,312
When a prophet speaks
in the name of the Lord,
1011
00:55:49,512 --> 00:55:52,982
if the word does
not come to pass or come true,
1012
00:55:53,216 --> 00:55:56,419
That is a word
the Lord has not spoken.
1013
00:55:56,419 --> 00:55:59,823
The Prophet has spoken it
presumptuously.
1014
00:56:00,090 --> 00:56:01,858
And again Moses tells us
1015
00:56:01,858 --> 00:56:05,161
how such a self-proclaimed
prophet is to be viewed.
1016
00:56:05,762 --> 00:56:08,331
The prophet
who presumes to speak a word
1017
00:56:08,331 --> 00:56:11,601
in my name
that I have not commanded him
1018
00:56:11,601 --> 00:56:15,305
to speak,
that same prophet shall die.
1019
00:56:15,872 --> 00:56:18,074
Deuteronomy
18 says that a prophet
1020
00:56:18,074 --> 00:56:20,310
who gets his prophecy
wrong is presumptuous.
1021
00:56:20,310 --> 00:56:21,511
And second Peter 2
1022
00:56:21,511 --> 00:56:25,081
says false teachers will speak
arrogant words of presumption,
1023
00:56:25,081 --> 00:56:27,050
meaning
they're going to speak things
1024
00:56:27,050 --> 00:56:30,420
that will not come to pass out
of their own presumption.
1025
00:56:30,687 --> 00:56:31,755
The gift of prophecy
1026
00:56:31,755 --> 00:56:35,625
in the New Testament
was held to the same standard
1027
00:56:35,625 --> 00:56:38,628
as the gift of prophecy
in the Old Testament.
1028
00:56:39,062 --> 00:56:43,333
Behold, I am against
those who prophesy lying
1029
00:56:43,333 --> 00:56:47,170
dreams, declares the Lord,
and who tell them and lead
1030
00:56:47,170 --> 00:56:50,940
my people astray by their lies
and their recklessness
1031
00:56:51,241 --> 00:56:54,144
when I did
not send them or charge them.
1032
00:56:55,111 --> 00:56:57,814
Do not listen
to the words of the prophets
1033
00:56:57,814 --> 00:57:01,317
who prophecy to you,
filling you with vain hopes.
1034
00:57:01,651 --> 00:57:04,621
They speak visions
of their own minds,
1035
00:57:04,621 --> 00:57:07,590
not from the mouth of the Lord.
1036
00:57:07,657 --> 00:57:11,127
The Prophet Jeremiah makes it
abundantly clear where the
1037
00:57:11,127 --> 00:57:14,831
visions and dreams of today's
so-called prophets come from.
1038
00:57:15,432 --> 00:57:19,068
Their words are completely
coming from their own minds.
1039
00:57:19,502 --> 00:57:22,739
God has not spoken
to them at all.
1040
00:57:24,874 --> 00:57:25,909
I would go up to
1041
00:57:25,909 --> 00:57:28,912
someone and I would say
I have a word from the Lord,
1042
00:57:29,746 --> 00:57:32,749
but to me it was more of like,
1043
00:57:33,016 --> 00:57:36,019
I want to encourage
you and the Lord, but
1044
00:57:37,620 --> 00:57:40,156
looking back,
that's a scary thing.
1045
00:57:40,156 --> 00:57:42,058
That's a very scary thing.
1046
00:57:42,058 --> 00:57:45,061
While that I think often
is unintentional
1047
00:57:45,161 --> 00:57:48,598
and people
sort of unwittingly say,
1048
00:57:48,965 --> 00:57:51,835
The Holy Spirit told me this
or God told me this
1049
00:57:51,835 --> 00:57:55,238
when they don't mean that
in the same way that others do.
1050
00:57:56,039 --> 00:57:57,240
Let me just encourage you.
1051
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:00,243
That is not a biblical way
to express yourself.
1052
00:58:00,643 --> 00:58:04,247
You're becoming, in
biblical terms, a false prophet.
1053
00:58:04,614 --> 00:58:07,650
Because you're saying this is
what the Holy Spirit said,
1054
00:58:08,151 --> 00:58:11,521
This is what God told me
when God is not
1055
00:58:11,521 --> 00:58:14,491
in fact the source of that.
To attribute
1056
00:58:14,557 --> 00:58:18,495
thoughts in your mind
to the Holy spirit you become
1057
00:58:18,728 --> 00:58:20,997
a Jeremiah 23 false prophet.
1058
00:58:20,997 --> 00:58:24,000
You have your own visions,
your own ideas, your own dreams.
1059
00:58:24,167 --> 00:58:27,070
They become
a false prophet, de facto,
1060
00:58:27,070 --> 00:58:28,471
even if that's not their heart.
1061
00:58:29,973 --> 00:58:31,341
Now, if you think that I'm
1062
00:58:31,341 --> 00:58:34,344
overemphasizing something,
maybe stressing a little bit
1063
00:58:34,377 --> 00:58:37,580
beyond reason,
I would just simply point you
1064
00:58:37,580 --> 00:58:40,583
to first Corinthians chapter 14,
verse one,
1065
00:58:40,984 --> 00:58:43,920
where Paul commands
the Corinthians
1066
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,891
and all believers
earnestly the spiritual gifts,
1067
00:58:47,891 --> 00:58:51,327
especially that you may
prophesy.
1068
00:58:52,228 --> 00:58:55,231
Paul is commanding us
here, earnestly
1069
00:58:55,231 --> 00:58:58,234
desires spiritual gifts,
especially prophecy.
1070
00:58:58,334 --> 00:59:01,304
This is not optional.
1071
00:59:01,304 --> 00:59:04,574
If you are not earnestly
desiring spiritual
1072
00:59:04,574 --> 00:59:07,577
gifts, especially prophecy
you are sinning.
1073
00:59:08,244 --> 00:59:10,947
They keep making the argument
that we're sinning
1074
00:59:10,947 --> 00:59:13,917
because we're disobeying
a command of God
1075
00:59:13,917 --> 00:59:16,519
by not seeking
the gift of prophecy.
1076
00:59:16,519 --> 00:59:20,123
Sam Storms and others
who make that kind of argument
1077
00:59:20,123 --> 00:59:23,126
know that
all the commands of the Bible
1078
00:59:23,359 --> 00:59:26,195
come to us
with an assumed context.
1079
00:59:26,195 --> 00:59:29,198
We might go to Matthew ten
1080
00:59:29,198 --> 00:59:32,669
and the commands
that Jesus gave to his disciples
1081
00:59:32,902 --> 00:59:35,505
when they went out on mission
for Him.
1082
00:59:35,505 --> 00:59:40,577
And we could point after point
after point show how Paul
1083
00:59:40,577 --> 00:59:43,980
did not obey those commands
in his own missions.
1084
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,816
He did take money from churches.
1085
00:59:46,816 --> 00:59:49,752
He did take more than one
cloak with him.
1086
00:59:49,752 --> 00:59:54,090
So we have to accept the fact
that biblical commands
1087
00:59:54,090 --> 00:59:54,924
come to certain
1088
00:59:54,924 --> 00:59:58,394
specific people with certain
specific assumptions.
1089
00:59:58,861 --> 01:00:02,432
The same thing is true
with regard to the command
1090
01:00:02,432 --> 01:00:06,603
to seek the gift of prophecy
and First Corinthians 12 and 14.
1091
01:00:06,803 --> 01:00:08,471
It came in the context
1092
01:00:08,471 --> 01:00:12,141
where God was still giving the
gift of prophecy to the church.
1093
01:00:12,542 --> 01:00:16,446
If we can show that
the gift of prophecy
1094
01:00:16,446 --> 01:00:18,915
is no longer
being given to the church,
1095
01:00:18,915 --> 01:00:22,285
the command is
no longer obligatory for us.
1096
01:00:23,653 --> 01:00:25,555
No one today has the ability
1097
01:00:25,555 --> 01:00:29,225
to see into tomorrow
and reveal that to the Church.
1098
01:00:29,592 --> 01:00:32,695
The aspect of foretelling
1099
01:00:33,162 --> 01:00:35,732
has ceased.
1100
01:00:35,732 --> 01:00:38,735
There is a gift of forthtelling
1101
01:00:40,069 --> 01:00:41,904
to stand before group of people
1102
01:00:41,904 --> 01:00:45,475
and to take the Scripture
that has already been given
1103
01:00:46,576 --> 01:00:49,579
and to declare it
with clear teaching
1104
01:00:49,979 --> 01:00:52,915
that is a God-given gift.
1105
01:00:52,915 --> 01:00:54,851
We have the comfort
of the Inspired
1106
01:00:54,851 --> 01:00:58,154
or authoritative inerrant
Word of God
1107
01:00:58,154 --> 01:01:00,123
that is always true.
1108
01:01:00,123 --> 01:01:01,524
It is our guide for life.
1109
01:01:01,524 --> 01:01:04,460
Thank God Christians
have a guide for life.
1110
01:01:04,460 --> 01:01:07,830
We have the privilege
of having an authority
1111
01:01:07,897 --> 01:01:11,701
behind us in these 66 books
1112
01:01:12,335 --> 01:01:15,338
that can guide us
in every area of life.
1113
01:01:23,079 --> 01:01:25,081
When the Day of Pentecost
arrived,
1114
01:01:25,181 --> 01:01:29,118
they were all together
in one place and suddenly
1115
01:01:29,118 --> 01:01:32,522
there came from heaven, a sound
like a mighty rushing wind,
1116
01:01:33,656 --> 01:01:35,024
and it filled the entire
1117
01:01:35,024 --> 01:01:38,027
house where they were sitting
1118
01:01:47,570 --> 01:01:49,939
and divided tongues as a fire
1119
01:01:49,939 --> 01:01:53,576
appeared to them
and rested on each one.
1120
01:01:54,210 --> 01:01:57,447
And they were all filled
with the Holy Spirit
1121
01:01:57,714 --> 01:02:01,451
and began to speak
in other tongues as the Spirit
1122
01:02:01,451 --> 01:02:04,454
gave them utterance.
1123
01:02:05,488 --> 01:02:06,155
The significance
1124
01:02:06,155 --> 01:02:09,158
of the day
of Pentecost is great.
1125
01:02:09,292 --> 01:02:13,262
It was the crowning event
in the life of Christ.
1126
01:02:13,362 --> 01:02:15,331
It's a Christ event,
1127
01:02:15,331 --> 01:02:18,334
and it was the pouring
out of Christ's Spirit
1128
01:02:18,701 --> 01:02:22,171
so that Christ is with us now
by His Spirit.
1129
01:02:22,839 --> 01:02:26,342
One of the manifestations
of Pentecost
1130
01:02:26,342 --> 01:02:30,613
was the Apostles
speaking in other languages.
1131
01:02:32,315 --> 01:02:35,318
The first time tongues
appears in Acts chapter two,
1132
01:02:35,685 --> 01:02:39,989
it's very clear that tongues in
that passage is speaking
1133
01:02:40,289 --> 01:02:45,261
known languages that the speaker
had never before learned.
1134
01:02:45,695 --> 01:02:48,297
And we know that
because there are two terms
1135
01:02:48,297 --> 01:02:51,534
that appear in that passage at
Pentecost in the Book of Acts.
1136
01:02:51,901 --> 01:02:54,837
One is the word glosses.
1137
01:02:54,837 --> 01:02:56,773
It literally refers
to the organ of the mouth.
1138
01:02:56,773 --> 01:02:58,508
That's
where we get the word tongues.
1139
01:02:58,508 --> 01:03:00,977
It says they spoke in tongues.
Well, what is that?
1140
01:03:00,977 --> 01:03:04,914
Well, later he uses the word
dialecto, which is the word
1141
01:03:04,914 --> 01:03:09,185
for languages, and he uses
it synonymously with glosses.
1142
01:03:11,387 --> 01:03:13,489
The people
who are hearing the apostles
1143
01:03:13,489 --> 01:03:17,193
say, each of us
hear these truths
1144
01:03:17,393 --> 01:03:21,130
in the language
to which we were born in.
1145
01:03:22,031 --> 01:03:25,434
The gift of speaking in tongues
was the miraculous ability
1146
01:03:25,434 --> 01:03:27,537
to speak in a foreign language
1147
01:03:27,537 --> 01:03:30,540
that the speaker
had never previously learned.
1148
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:31,941
Why did God give this
1149
01:03:31,941 --> 01:03:35,545
peculiar gift to many Christians
in the early church?
1150
01:03:36,145 --> 01:03:39,348
Paul answers this question
In first Corinthians 14.
1151
01:03:39,916 --> 01:03:43,119
He explains that
the gift of tongues is a sign
1152
01:03:43,419 --> 01:03:46,422
not for believers,
but for unbelievers.
1153
01:03:46,989 --> 01:03:49,992
Some Continuationists interpret
this to mean that
1154
01:03:49,992 --> 01:03:51,527
people speaking in tongues
1155
01:03:51,527 --> 01:03:54,530
is an impressive thing
for unbelievers to witness.
1156
01:03:54,764 --> 01:03:57,767
But Paul immediately debunks
this idea.
1157
01:03:58,134 --> 01:04:02,672
He writes so if the whole church
comes together and everyone
1158
01:04:02,672 --> 01:04:06,576
speaks in tongues and inquirers
or unbelievers come in.
1159
01:04:06,843 --> 01:04:09,712
Will they not say
that you are out of your mind?
1160
01:04:11,414 --> 01:04:12,782
So what does Paul mean, then,
1161
01:04:12,782 --> 01:04:15,785
that tongues are a sign
to unbelievers?
1162
01:04:18,254 --> 01:04:21,257
You need to go all the way back
to the Tower of Babel
1163
01:04:21,757 --> 01:04:24,293
and how the various languages
and nations have warred
1164
01:04:24,293 --> 01:04:25,862
and murdered each other.
1165
01:04:25,862 --> 01:04:29,198
And God is then going to narrow
in and speak to one man
1166
01:04:29,498 --> 01:04:32,368
who is a Hebrew
speaking man, Abraham,
1167
01:04:32,368 --> 01:04:35,338
and we're going to have God
speaking to that people
1168
01:04:35,338 --> 01:04:37,340
and revealing himself
to that people
1169
01:04:37,340 --> 01:04:39,108
in their language,
the Hebrew language.
1170
01:04:39,108 --> 01:04:42,378
But he promises that he's
going to bless all the nations,
1171
01:04:42,378 --> 01:04:45,381
the language groups of the world
through his seed.
1172
01:04:46,249 --> 01:04:49,485
God chose the nation of Israel
and the language of Hebrew
1173
01:04:49,485 --> 01:04:53,022
as his primary way of revealing
himself in the Old Testament.
1174
01:04:53,489 --> 01:04:56,959
But in Isaiah 28, the Lord tells
the leaders of Jerusalem
1175
01:04:57,260 --> 01:05:00,096
that a sign of their impending
judgment
1176
01:05:00,096 --> 01:05:01,330
would be that He would speak
1177
01:05:01,330 --> 01:05:04,867
to the people with strange lips
and a foreign tongue.
1178
01:05:05,701 --> 01:05:09,572
The Lord speaking through
his prophets, is warning
1179
01:05:09,939 --> 01:05:13,876
the Israelites, I have
been sending you prophets.
1180
01:05:14,911 --> 01:05:17,780
If you don't
want to listen to the prophets,
1181
01:05:17,780 --> 01:05:22,084
people of a strange language
altogether will descend
1182
01:05:22,084 --> 01:05:26,355
upon you and bring destruction
1183
01:05:26,822 --> 01:05:29,825
to you as a people.
1184
01:05:30,059 --> 01:05:33,696
Isaiah was prophesying
the coming Babylonian captivity
1185
01:05:33,863 --> 01:05:37,233
where Jerusalem and God's
temple would be decimated
1186
01:05:37,466 --> 01:05:40,469
and the people would be
carried off by foreigners.
1187
01:05:40,937 --> 01:05:44,340
But in first Corinthians 14,
where we are told that tongues
1188
01:05:44,340 --> 01:05:47,376
are assigned to unbelievers
Paul references
1189
01:05:47,376 --> 01:05:51,047
this same prophecy again
in the context of explaining
1190
01:05:51,047 --> 01:05:54,116
the purpose of the New Testament
gift of tongues
1191
01:05:54,884 --> 01:05:58,421
by people of strange tongues,
and by the lips of foreigners.
1192
01:05:58,621 --> 01:06:00,589
Will I speak to this people?
1193
01:06:00,589 --> 01:06:03,793
And even then they will not
listen to me, says the Lord.
1194
01:06:04,660 --> 01:06:07,830
The gift of tongues wasn't meant
primarily to be an impressive
1195
01:06:07,830 --> 01:06:11,701
sign to unbelieving Gentiles
who spoke other languages.
1196
01:06:12,068 --> 01:06:15,871
It is actually a sign
to unbelieving Israel that.
1197
01:06:15,871 --> 01:06:20,076
God was judging them,
revealing himself to Gentiles
1198
01:06:20,343 --> 01:06:24,180
and choosing to speak in
languages other than Hebrew.
1199
01:06:26,849 --> 01:06:27,783
You see that
1200
01:06:27,783 --> 01:06:31,187
sign to unbelievers
sort of cutting both ways.
1201
01:06:31,187 --> 01:06:33,189
On the one hand, it was a curse.
1202
01:06:33,189 --> 01:06:35,624
It was a curse to the Jewish
people
1203
01:06:35,624 --> 01:06:37,493
who rejected their Messiah,
1204
01:06:37,493 --> 01:06:41,030
but at the same time
it was a sign of blessing
1205
01:06:41,430 --> 01:06:44,266
on the fact that God was going
to institute a new thing
1206
01:06:44,266 --> 01:06:47,937
in which both Jews and Gentiles
would come together.
1207
01:06:48,204 --> 01:06:51,207
As Paul says in Ephesians two
into one new man
1208
01:06:53,843 --> 01:06:56,512
Glossalalia is a term
1209
01:06:56,512 --> 01:07:00,182
that comes from two Greek
words. Glossa - meaning tongue
1210
01:07:00,182 --> 01:07:03,853
or language, and laleo -
meaning to speak.
1211
01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:08,224
So when we use those terms
together glossalalia is
1212
01:07:08,224 --> 01:07:11,961
used to refer to tongue speaking
or to speaking in tongues.
1213
01:07:12,461 --> 01:07:14,130
The modern charismatic
understanding
1214
01:07:14,130 --> 01:07:18,300
of the term allows for
glossalalia to refer to ecstatic
1215
01:07:18,300 --> 01:07:22,338
spiritual speech that doesn't
conform to any known language.
1216
01:07:23,072 --> 01:07:26,709
What many modern Pentecostals
and Charismatics don't know
1217
01:07:26,709 --> 01:07:30,246
is that the earliest
Pentecostals all believed
1218
01:07:30,546 --> 01:07:33,649
that speaking in tongues
was the supernatural ability
1219
01:07:33,649 --> 01:07:35,584
to speak foreign languages.
1220
01:07:35,584 --> 01:07:37,219
None of them thought.
1221
01:07:37,219 --> 01:07:39,588
It is an ecstatic speech.
1222
01:07:39,588 --> 01:07:43,325
Parham was in the newspaper
on multiple occasions
1223
01:07:43,325 --> 01:07:45,161
talking about how
1224
01:07:45,161 --> 01:07:47,863
now that the gift of tongues
has been restored to the church,
1225
01:07:47,863 --> 01:07:50,499
no one is going to have to go
to language school
1226
01:07:50,499 --> 01:07:52,568
to learn foreign languages
and we’ll be able
1227
01:07:52,568 --> 01:07:55,037
to send missionaries
all around the world
1228
01:07:55,037 --> 01:07:55,604
without them
1229
01:07:55,604 --> 01:07:58,607
having to spend years training
and learning a foreign language
1230
01:07:58,607 --> 01:08:00,242
in order to be effective.
1231
01:08:00,242 --> 01:08:02,445
And the budding
Pentecostal movement
1232
01:08:02,445 --> 01:08:05,448
actually sent missionaries
to foreign fields,
1233
01:08:05,681 --> 01:08:08,350
trusting that they would be able
to just show up,
1234
01:08:08,350 --> 01:08:12,054
be given the gift of languages
and communicate
1235
01:08:12,054 --> 01:08:15,157
with the nationals
in those foreign countries.
1236
01:08:15,458 --> 01:08:18,727
So they went off to China
and India and other places
1237
01:08:19,028 --> 01:08:19,995
thinking they were
1238
01:08:19,995 --> 01:08:23,566
speaking in those languages
while proclaiming the gospel,
1239
01:08:23,899 --> 01:08:25,601
only to figure out
1240
01:08:25,601 --> 01:08:29,472
that no one in the audience
was able to understand them.
1241
01:08:30,172 --> 01:08:33,442
And of course,
they all came back
1242
01:08:33,642 --> 01:08:37,346
utterly disappointed
and dejected when they realized
1243
01:08:37,346 --> 01:08:40,883
that what they were doing
in terms of their modern
1244
01:08:40,883 --> 01:08:45,187
glossalalia did not communicate
in terms of a foreign language
1245
01:08:45,454 --> 01:08:48,023
with the people
they were trying to reach.
1246
01:08:48,023 --> 01:08:51,360
And so consequently,
the Pentecostal movement
1247
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:53,262
had to change
1248
01:08:53,262 --> 01:08:56,398
its understanding of Scripture,
to fit its experience
1249
01:08:56,699 --> 01:08:59,001
rather than acknowledging
that its experience
1250
01:08:59,001 --> 01:09:01,670
did not fit the clear
teaching of Scripture,
1251
01:09:01,670 --> 01:09:05,274
they opened up a second category
of tongues
1252
01:09:05,574 --> 01:09:08,577
that included
unintelligible speech.
1253
01:09:08,844 --> 01:09:12,181
You don't find the notion
that tongue
1254
01:09:12,181 --> 01:09:13,449
speaking in the Bible
1255
01:09:13,449 --> 01:09:16,452
is anything
other than real human languages
1256
01:09:16,652 --> 01:09:20,589
until you get to the modern
charismatic movement.
1257
01:09:20,923 --> 01:09:25,361
The Charismatic movement has
invented a new kind of tongues
1258
01:09:25,661 --> 01:09:30,099
because the tongues
that they practice don't match
1259
01:09:30,299 --> 01:09:33,602
what the Scripture reveals
as the real gift of tongues.
1260
01:09:33,903 --> 01:09:37,606
And as a result, they had to
broaden the biblical category
1261
01:09:37,606 --> 01:09:39,308
to make
room for their experience.
1262
01:09:40,442 --> 01:09:43,412
Yes,
you can speak in tongues.
1263
01:09:43,646 --> 01:09:46,515
The more you do it, the better
you'll be at it.
1264
01:09:46,515 --> 01:09:49,118
But we can at least
get you started in this.
1265
01:09:49,118 --> 01:09:51,587
I just want to help you
to activate your tongues.
1266
01:09:51,587 --> 01:09:52,755
It's very simple.
1267
01:09:52,755 --> 01:09:53,989
All you have to do
1268
01:09:53,989 --> 01:09:57,993
is just choose to step out
and speak in tongues.
1269
01:09:58,160 --> 01:09:59,795
Now, I don't want you
to overthink it.
1270
01:09:59,795 --> 01:10:02,498
Just don't speak in English.
Don't think English.
1271
01:10:02,498 --> 01:10:05,134
So the first thing you need to
do is just clear your mind.
1272
01:10:05,134 --> 01:10:08,737
I want you to flip the switch
from your mind
1273
01:10:08,904 --> 01:10:10,606
to your spirit, man.
1274
01:10:10,606 --> 01:10:12,508
Don't let your mind
take control.
1275
01:10:12,508 --> 01:10:15,311
Allow your spirit
to take control.
1276
01:10:15,311 --> 01:10:17,079
You're going to start
to feel this
1277
01:10:17,079 --> 01:10:19,148
almost like a bubbling up
that happens
1278
01:10:19,148 --> 01:10:21,850
just as you feel it
bubbling up. Begin to speak.
1279
01:10:21,850 --> 01:10:24,186
Don't fight it, don't resist it.
1280
01:10:24,186 --> 01:10:28,657
It may be a simple syllable,
but continue to release it.
1281
01:10:28,691 --> 01:10:31,493
Da, da, da, da, da, da,
da, da, da, da, da,
1282
01:10:31,493 --> 01:10:33,529
Even if it sounds weird
to your mind, it doesn't matter.
1283
01:10:33,529 --> 01:10:34,663
It's not a language of the mind.
1284
01:10:34,663 --> 01:10:35,931
It's the language of the spirit.
1285
01:10:35,931 --> 01:10:38,067
Da, da, da, da, da, da,
da, da,
1286
01:10:38,067 --> 01:10:39,201
I’m gonna give you the command
of faith
1287
01:10:39,201 --> 01:10:40,836
And at that very moment,
1288
01:10:40,836 --> 01:10:42,071
you're going to no longer
1289
01:10:42,071 --> 01:10:44,373
speak in your native language,
but you're going to speak
1290
01:10:44,373 --> 01:10:46,008
out of your spirit.
1291
01:10:46,008 --> 01:10:48,277
One, two, three!
1292
01:10:54,316 --> 01:10:56,885
Yes, the man mind says It's
weird, but the spirit says Hello
1293
01:10:56,885 --> 01:10:58,020
this is awesome.
1294
01:11:11,834 --> 01:11:14,136
Oh ho ho ho ho ho.
1295
01:11:33,856 --> 01:11:35,291
and congratulations
1296
01:11:35,291 --> 01:11:36,191
You've been filled with
the Spirit
1297
01:11:36,191 --> 01:11:39,194
and you can now
speak in tongues on demand.
1298
01:11:39,361 --> 01:11:42,464
I tried to speak in
tongues.
1299
01:11:42,498 --> 01:11:45,501
I tried for years with the hope
that that something
1300
01:11:45,768 --> 01:11:49,471
external would become internal
1301
01:11:49,738 --> 01:11:51,340
and would come out
1302
01:11:51,340 --> 01:11:53,609
probably the number one reason
most people don't receive
1303
01:11:53,609 --> 01:11:56,111
the gift is
they're just overthinking it.
1304
01:11:56,111 --> 01:11:57,946
People wonder,
what if this is just me
1305
01:11:57,946 --> 01:12:01,650
praying this or worse, what
if this is a demonic spirit?
1306
01:12:02,117 --> 01:12:03,519
What if this is not of God?
1307
01:12:03,519 --> 01:12:05,054
What if what I'm
receiving is fake?
1308
01:12:05,054 --> 01:12:06,422
What if it's all just hype?
1309
01:12:06,422 --> 01:12:09,024
What if it's all just emotion
and we become afraid?
1310
01:12:09,024 --> 01:12:10,959
So if you're waiting
for your mind to comprehend
1311
01:12:10,959 --> 01:12:13,228
everything that's going on in
praying in tongues,
1312
01:12:13,228 --> 01:12:15,030
you're not going to pray
in tongues.
1313
01:12:15,030 --> 01:12:18,600
Then I'm listening
to all of these people around me
1314
01:12:18,901 --> 01:12:20,302
speaking in tongues,
1315
01:12:20,302 --> 01:12:23,305
and I waited for this music
to kind of drive
1316
01:12:23,372 --> 01:12:24,239
what was happening
1317
01:12:24,239 --> 01:12:28,110
till the point where I kind of
grew in this emotional state,
1318
01:12:28,477 --> 01:12:31,680
where all of a sudden
I may said a phrase or two,
1319
01:12:32,214 --> 01:12:35,217
and I thought, Oh, I got it,
that's it.
1320
01:12:36,118 --> 01:12:38,354
I'm speaking in tongues. Right?
1321
01:12:38,354 --> 01:12:40,155
And it was a checkmark
1322
01:12:40,155 --> 01:12:43,192
for your kind of your spiritual
journey, Right.
1323
01:12:44,026 --> 01:12:45,661
Did I have an experience?
1324
01:12:45,661 --> 01:12:47,830
Absolutely. I had an experience.
1325
01:12:47,830 --> 01:12:51,033
Would I examine the scripture,
say that that what I experienced
1326
01:12:51,033 --> 01:12:53,769
looks like what
the text of scripture says?
1327
01:12:53,769 --> 01:12:55,237
Absolutely not.
1328
01:12:55,237 --> 01:12:59,041
It's just babble
for the purpose of an ecstatic
1329
01:12:59,908 --> 01:13:02,444
emotional experience.
1330
01:13:02,444 --> 01:13:04,313
You could study that language
for forever.
1331
01:13:04,313 --> 01:13:05,881
You're never going to come up
with a pattern.
1332
01:13:05,881 --> 01:13:07,950
It's just it's
just plain gibberish.
1333
01:13:07,950 --> 01:13:10,819
But I read Romans
chapter eight that
1334
01:13:10,819 --> 01:13:14,123
the Spirit speaks with groans
that are too deep for words.
1335
01:13:14,656 --> 01:13:17,659
Maybe that verse is
what is meant by this.
1336
01:13:17,860 --> 01:13:20,028
I feel this overwhelming urge
from the Spirit
1337
01:13:20,028 --> 01:13:22,865
to utter something,
and that's what comes out.
1338
01:13:22,865 --> 01:13:23,932
You have a choice.
1339
01:13:23,932 --> 01:13:26,635
You can choose to pray
with your spirit,
1340
01:13:26,635 --> 01:13:27,603
to pray in the spirit,
1341
01:13:27,603 --> 01:13:30,572
or you can to pray with
your mind in your own language.
1342
01:13:30,572 --> 01:13:31,440
So you can choose to
1343
01:13:31,440 --> 01:13:34,877
pray in mysteries,
or you can choose to pray
1344
01:13:35,277 --> 01:13:36,445
in a known language.
1345
01:13:36,445 --> 01:13:39,882
You have the ability
to do that, to choose that
1346
01:13:40,315 --> 01:13:44,186
there is no given permission
in Scripture to speak some
1347
01:13:44,486 --> 01:13:47,756
gibberish nonsense that no one
is going to understand it.
1348
01:13:48,223 --> 01:13:52,327
But think about what Jesus said
when he taught us how to pray
1349
01:13:52,461 --> 01:13:53,796
in Matthew 6:7,
1350
01:13:53,796 --> 01:13:58,133
He said, don't heap up empty
phrases like the pagans do.
1351
01:13:58,467 --> 01:14:00,469
And then he says, Pray
then like this.
1352
01:14:00,469 --> 01:14:03,772
And Jesus taught
us to pray, clear prayers.
1353
01:14:04,740 --> 01:14:06,642
He was never praying anything
1354
01:14:06,642 --> 01:14:08,410
that was some otherly language.
1355
01:14:08,410 --> 01:14:09,778
And if there was anyone
who was going
1356
01:14:09,778 --> 01:14:11,847
to pray in such a language,
it would certainly be the one
1357
01:14:11,847 --> 01:14:14,249
who was sent down from heaven.
Christ himself.
1358
01:14:14,249 --> 01:14:16,618
What do you mean by
speaking in tongues?
1359
01:14:16,618 --> 01:14:20,088
My sense is from reading First
Corinthians 12 that it was more
1360
01:14:20,456 --> 01:14:24,393
of an ecstatic utterance
that didn't have
1361
01:14:24,626 --> 01:14:27,629
any ordinary human meaning,
1362
01:14:27,729 --> 01:14:30,699
but tongues of men
and of angels.
1363
01:14:30,699 --> 01:14:32,568
Tongues of angels.
1364
01:14:32,568 --> 01:14:36,638
Often people will appeal
to First Corinthians 13,
1365
01:14:36,638 --> 01:14:40,642
where the Apostle Paul says,
If I speak in the tongues of men
1366
01:14:40,642 --> 01:14:42,744
and of angels,
but have not love,
1367
01:14:42,744 --> 01:14:45,547
then the practice
of speaking in tongues
1368
01:14:45,547 --> 01:14:49,384
is not suddenly speaking French
or suddenly speaking German,
1369
01:14:49,885 --> 01:14:52,988
but speaking allegedly
the tongues of angels.
1370
01:14:53,222 --> 01:14:56,492
You can literally say
whatever you want and justify it
1371
01:14:56,692 --> 01:15:00,963
when Paul is speaking of
tongues, of men and of angels,
1372
01:15:01,463 --> 01:15:05,667
what he's trying to do
is speak in hyperbole
1373
01:15:05,667 --> 01:15:08,670
or intentional exaggeration
for the sake of effect,
1374
01:15:08,737 --> 01:15:11,173
to illustrate the point
that even if you have the best
1375
01:15:11,173 --> 01:15:14,176
and the highest gifts
that reach up to heaven itself
1376
01:15:14,309 --> 01:15:17,246
and you have not love,
you have nothing.
1377
01:15:17,246 --> 01:15:20,282
For example, he says, Even
if I give my body to be burned,
1378
01:15:20,782 --> 01:15:23,785
but I have not love, it
profits me nothing.
1379
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:29,291
Not that you ought
to speak in tongues of angels,
1380
01:15:29,791 --> 01:15:33,061
but that you ought to love one
another as Christ is loved you.
1381
01:15:33,061 --> 01:15:35,297
And that's the stress
of the text.
1382
01:15:35,297 --> 01:15:38,433
It's actually sad
and unfortunate
1383
01:15:38,967 --> 01:15:43,171
that while Paul is seeking
to direct our attention
1384
01:15:43,572 --> 01:15:46,808
away from the gifts
and to the grace of love,
1385
01:15:47,342 --> 01:15:48,810
we take one phrase
1386
01:15:48,810 --> 01:15:50,445
the tongues of angels
and make it
1387
01:15:50,445 --> 01:15:53,482
the primary focus of what tongue
speaking should look like.
1388
01:15:54,983 --> 01:15:57,119
First Corinthians 14’s
1389
01:15:57,119 --> 01:16:00,422
rules for the use of tongues
in church
1390
01:16:00,722 --> 01:16:06,295
are simply ignored in our day
and Continuationist churches.
1391
01:16:06,695 --> 01:16:09,698
The fact that only two or three
tongue speakers should speak.
1392
01:16:09,731 --> 01:16:11,600
They want to be trampling
on each other
1393
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,136
and standing up
and babbling at the same time.
1394
01:16:14,136 --> 01:16:17,139
The fact that Paul says
in the context there
1395
01:16:17,539 --> 01:16:20,509
that women should not speak
in tongues in church.
1396
01:16:20,509 --> 01:16:23,679
Those tongues
had to be interpreted or
1397
01:16:23,679 --> 01:16:25,847
they were not to be permitted.
1398
01:16:25,847 --> 01:16:30,118
There are these rules that Paul
gives that are widely ignored.
1399
01:16:30,419 --> 01:16:33,422
And this is just another sign
that what's going on,
1400
01:16:33,589 --> 01:16:35,591
not biblical tongues.
1401
01:16:35,591 --> 01:16:37,426
You do have these
and I've been in these meetings
1402
01:16:37,426 --> 01:16:38,927
five, ten thousand people
1403
01:16:38,927 --> 01:16:41,830
all speaking in tongues
at the same time or,
1404
01:16:41,830 --> 01:16:43,966
you know, an individual
to speak in tongues
1405
01:16:43,966 --> 01:16:46,735
with no interpretation,
no one knows what's being said.
1406
01:16:46,735 --> 01:16:48,704
All we know is apparently
the Holy Spirit is at work.
1407
01:16:48,704 --> 01:16:51,673
I'm sorry,
that just doesn't work.
1408
01:16:51,673 --> 01:16:53,976
Either they’re actual languages
like the Bible
1409
01:16:53,976 --> 01:16:55,110
describes them to be
1410
01:16:55,110 --> 01:16:57,512
or this is something else
that's going on.
1411
01:16:57,512 --> 01:16:58,547
And yeah,
1412
01:16:58,547 --> 01:17:01,550
you could argue, okay, someone's
making it up as they go along.
1413
01:17:01,583 --> 01:17:02,484
Is it demonic?
1414
01:17:02,484 --> 01:17:04,620
It's just not the biblical gift.
1415
01:17:05,954 --> 01:17:07,923
People
say, I don't understand, Sam,
1416
01:17:07,923 --> 01:17:10,926
how you can preach verse
by verse through Romans
1417
01:17:11,627 --> 01:17:13,261
and in your private
devotional life
1418
01:17:13,261 --> 01:17:16,231
you speak in tongues,
which I do every day.
1419
01:17:16,398 --> 01:17:18,734
And I say, well,
1420
01:17:18,734 --> 01:17:20,869
the apostle Paul wrote Romans
and he says right here
1421
01:17:20,869 --> 01:17:22,404
in 1 Corinthians 14,
I thank God
1422
01:17:22,404 --> 01:17:25,007
I speak in tongues
more than you all.
1423
01:17:25,007 --> 01:17:28,110
Oh, well, I don’t think I ever
thought about it that way.
1424
01:17:28,343 --> 01:17:31,346
It's good enough for
Paul it’s good enough for us.
1425
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,783
Paul says not to forbid,
to speak in tongues.
1426
01:17:34,783 --> 01:17:36,118
To which I would reply,
1427
01:17:36,118 --> 01:17:39,187
I've never in my life forbidden
anyone to speak in tongues.
1428
01:17:39,187 --> 01:17:40,188
As far as I know,
1429
01:17:40,188 --> 01:17:41,690
no Christian pastor has ever
1430
01:17:41,690 --> 01:17:43,925
forbidden
anybody to speak in tongues.
1431
01:17:43,925 --> 01:17:44,793
However, the verse
1432
01:17:44,793 --> 01:17:48,130
doesn't say don't forbid people
to babble incoherently.
1433
01:17:48,697 --> 01:17:52,034
I would forbid that,
but that's not tongues.
1434
01:17:52,100 --> 01:17:52,768
Even though
1435
01:17:52,768 --> 01:17:56,104
it comes out of people's mouths
and their tongue is involved.
1436
01:17:56,571 --> 01:17:58,507
It's not the gift of tongues.
1437
01:17:58,507 --> 01:18:00,909
And yes,
I will forbid counterfeits,
1438
01:18:00,909 --> 01:18:03,211
but that's just what
a faithful minister would do.
1439
01:18:03,211 --> 01:18:06,281
And that's why there is
no room for open but cautious
1440
01:18:23,265 --> 01:18:26,568
Jesus’ enemies
were on the lookout,
1441
01:18:26,568 --> 01:18:28,170
always trying to trap him
1442
01:18:28,170 --> 01:18:31,173
when he performed miracles.
1443
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,342
One Sabbath,
Jesus entered the synagogue
1444
01:18:34,342 --> 01:18:35,277
and the Pharisees
1445
01:18:35,277 --> 01:18:38,580
watched him to see
if he would heal on the Sabbath.
1446
01:18:40,282 --> 01:18:41,650
Jesus came to a man
1447
01:18:41,650 --> 01:18:44,653
whose hand was withered.
1448
01:18:46,088 --> 01:18:49,091
Jesus said,
Stretch out your hand.
1449
01:19:26,061 --> 01:19:28,430
The Pharisees were filled
with fury
1450
01:19:28,430 --> 01:19:31,433
and sought to destroy
Jesus Jesus.
1451
01:19:39,674 --> 01:19:43,545
If somebody has the gift
of miraculous healing,
1452
01:19:44,346 --> 01:19:47,082
surely all he needs to do
1453
01:19:47,082 --> 01:19:50,085
is to prove it.
1454
01:19:51,286 --> 01:19:53,989
Assuming
he went into a hospital
1455
01:19:53,989 --> 01:19:58,026
and cleaned out
a ward of patients,
1456
01:19:58,794 --> 01:20:02,798
who are we to say that
he hasn't got that gift?
1457
01:20:03,498 --> 01:20:05,700
Jesus doesn't owe you anything.
1458
01:20:05,700 --> 01:20:07,636
He doesn't have to prove
anything to you,
1459
01:20:07,636 --> 01:20:10,138
nor does the Holy Spirit
have to prove anything to.
1460
01:20:10,138 --> 01:20:12,274
You when it comes
to a gift of healing.
1461
01:20:12,274 --> 01:20:13,742
If you've got
the gift of healing,
1462
01:20:13,742 --> 01:20:15,343
then come to this children's
hospital.
1463
01:20:15,343 --> 01:20:18,113
If you've got that kind of
prove it to me attitude,
1464
01:20:18,113 --> 01:20:21,750
that is not confidence
in goodness and character.
1465
01:20:22,818 --> 01:20:25,821
That is pride at its very core.
1466
01:20:25,854 --> 01:20:27,155
If somebody says,
1467
01:20:27,155 --> 01:20:29,024
Do you really have the gift
of teaching?
1468
01:20:29,024 --> 01:20:30,058
Go ahead, teach us something.
1469
01:20:30,058 --> 01:20:31,860
I mean, I'm
not going to balk at that.
1470
01:20:31,860 --> 01:20:34,696
I'm going to say, sure, let's
sit down and open the word.
1471
01:20:34,696 --> 01:20:36,064
You know, do you have the gift
of encouragement?
1472
01:20:36,064 --> 01:20:37,365
Well, encourage me.
1473
01:20:37,365 --> 01:20:38,767
I'm not going to say, well,
1474
01:20:38,767 --> 01:20:40,368
God doesn't need
to prove himself.
1475
01:20:40,368 --> 01:20:41,536
We think God heals.
1476
01:20:41,536 --> 01:20:43,738
We think God does
the miraculous.
1477
01:20:43,738 --> 01:20:46,575
He just doesn't do it
through these agents
1478
01:20:46,575 --> 01:20:50,111
to whom he gives the
power to work at will like that.
1479
01:20:50,278 --> 01:20:52,581
if you claim
to have the gift of healing,
1480
01:20:52,581 --> 01:20:55,350
if asked to go ahead
and demonstrate that
1481
01:20:55,350 --> 01:20:57,018
it really should be no problem
1482
01:20:57,018 --> 01:20:59,421
to go empty
the children's hospitals or
1483
01:20:59,421 --> 01:21:02,757
or look at a just a dear brother
who sits in a wheelchair
1484
01:21:02,757 --> 01:21:04,860
or sister sits in a wheelchair
in the
1485
01:21:04,860 --> 01:21:07,696
in that space, in the aisle
in church every week.
1486
01:21:07,696 --> 01:21:09,798
If I could just make walk,
I would.
1487
01:21:09,798 --> 01:21:10,599
Right.
1488
01:21:10,599 --> 01:21:12,934
And if there is compassion
in your heart
1489
01:21:12,934 --> 01:21:17,172
to help a
fellow believer walk upright,
1490
01:21:18,406 --> 01:21:20,642
heal the man.
1491
01:21:20,642 --> 01:21:22,210
First off, nobody owes you
anything
1492
01:21:22,210 --> 01:21:23,912
and nobody
needs to prove anything to you.
1493
01:21:23,912 --> 01:21:25,847
However,
I would be glad to do that.
1494
01:21:25,847 --> 01:21:27,148
Fly me out there
1495
01:21:27,148 --> 01:21:30,752
if I have open reign to pray for
people in a hospital. I'm in.
1496
01:21:30,986 --> 01:21:32,354
I would love that.
1497
01:21:32,354 --> 01:21:34,789
Prayer is not
the gift of healing.
1498
01:21:35,190 --> 01:21:36,391
The gift of healing,
1499
01:21:36,391 --> 01:21:38,226
Dare I say it,
results in healing.
1500
01:21:38,226 --> 01:21:40,128
In the New Testament
1501
01:21:40,128 --> 01:21:42,964
It's always
an authoritative command.
1502
01:21:42,964 --> 01:21:44,766
Get up and walk.
1503
01:21:44,766 --> 01:21:46,201
And he got up and walked.
1504
01:21:46,201 --> 01:21:49,471
To have the gift doesn't
mean to pray to have the gift.
1505
01:21:49,471 --> 01:21:51,473
It is his gift to wield.
1506
01:21:51,473 --> 01:21:52,741
What is claimed to be
1507
01:21:52,741 --> 01:21:54,743
the gifts that have continued
1508
01:21:54,743 --> 01:21:56,578
bear no resemblance to the gifts
1509
01:21:56,578 --> 01:21:58,380
that were in the New Testament.
1510
01:21:58,380 --> 01:22:01,316
The idea that somebody has
the gift of healing
1511
01:22:01,316 --> 01:22:05,120
is the false notion
that a person actually can have
1512
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:09,124
a healing crusade
or a healing ministry.
1513
01:22:09,457 --> 01:22:11,226
And that's their gift.
1514
01:22:11,226 --> 01:22:14,095
I wish I could come down
and lay hands on
1515
01:22:14,095 --> 01:22:17,365
every one of the thousands
that are standing.
1516
01:22:17,666 --> 01:22:19,534
That's impossible.
1517
01:22:19,534 --> 01:22:22,837
I came all the way here
from Delton, and I just wanted
1518
01:22:22,837 --> 01:22:23,805
to get healed by you.
1519
01:22:23,805 --> 01:22:26,641
I've been waiting
so long to see you.
1520
01:22:26,641 --> 01:22:30,512
We see in its pretended state.
1521
01:22:31,346 --> 01:22:34,349
We don't see it in reality.
1522
01:22:34,616 --> 01:22:36,318
Jesus didn't just come
1523
01:22:36,318 --> 01:22:38,086
so you can have
a passport Heaven.
1524
01:22:38,086 --> 01:22:40,588
And this is why we're called
full gospel preachers.
1525
01:22:40,588 --> 01:22:42,691
Cessationists
don't believe in a full gospel.
1526
01:22:42,691 --> 01:22:44,459
but I'm a full gospel Christian.
1527
01:22:44,459 --> 01:22:46,428
Some of you are going to get
healed on this broadcast,
1528
01:22:46,428 --> 01:22:48,763
and I feel that anointing strong
right now,
1529
01:22:48,763 --> 01:22:50,432
God's
going to touch your body today
1530
01:22:50,432 --> 01:22:52,701
in Jesus name,
that demon of cancer is
1531
01:22:52,701 --> 01:22:57,305
backing off your life in Jesus
name. Any demonic assignment
1532
01:22:57,539 --> 01:23:01,609
against your mind, against
your body, is being broken now
1533
01:23:01,876 --> 01:23:03,845
in Jesus name,
whether the devil likes it
1534
01:23:03,845 --> 01:23:08,416
or not, he is losing your
address from today onward.
1535
01:23:08,416 --> 01:23:10,919
Healings in the New
Testament were immediate
1536
01:23:11,419 --> 01:23:13,088
and they were complete.
1537
01:23:13,088 --> 01:23:16,091
A man cannot walk
and now he can walk.
1538
01:23:16,324 --> 01:23:19,227
A man is blind
and now he can see.
1539
01:23:19,227 --> 01:23:22,530
Whereas the quote unquote
miracles that are claimed today
1540
01:23:22,530 --> 01:23:24,833
usually are things
that are not observable.
1541
01:23:24,833 --> 01:23:25,500
There's a claim
1542
01:23:25,500 --> 01:23:28,503
that there's been healing,
but there's no way to measure it
1543
01:23:28,770 --> 01:23:30,905
or it is something
that is only partial
1544
01:23:30,905 --> 01:23:32,507
or something that is gradual.
1545
01:23:33,775 --> 01:23:36,911
If there were truly healings
where a man who was lame
1546
01:23:36,911 --> 01:23:40,382
can now walk, or a man
who is blind can now see,
1547
01:23:40,582 --> 01:23:44,586
that would make world news,
but you never see those sorts
1548
01:23:44,586 --> 01:23:45,320
of things.
1549
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:48,323
Healings
people claim to have happened
1550
01:23:48,356 --> 01:23:51,493
are gradual or secret
or non observable.
1551
01:23:54,562 --> 01:23:56,965
When Jesus raised Lazarus
from the dead in John Chapter
1552
01:23:56,965 --> 01:23:58,366
11, there were some Pharisees
1553
01:23:58,366 --> 01:24:00,735
and unbelieving Jews
who were present there,
1554
01:24:00,735 --> 01:24:02,003
and when they left
1555
01:24:02,003 --> 01:24:03,338
and went back to the other
1556
01:24:03,338 --> 01:24:05,473
Pharisees
and began to have discussions
1557
01:24:05,473 --> 01:24:07,509
about how they would deal with
Jesus,
1558
01:24:07,509 --> 01:24:10,512
none of them questioned
the legitimacy of Lazarus.
1559
01:24:10,845 --> 01:24:11,980
What they did instead
1560
01:24:11,980 --> 01:24:15,650
was plot a way
to kill Lazarus and kill Jesus
1561
01:24:15,917 --> 01:24:18,920
because they could not deny
that that miracle had happened.
1562
01:24:19,287 --> 01:24:21,523
Neither believers
nor unbelievers
1563
01:24:21,523 --> 01:24:24,526
ever tried to deny
that the miracles were real.
1564
01:24:24,526 --> 01:24:27,062
The only thing
the Pharisees could come up with
1565
01:24:27,062 --> 01:24:27,629
was that they
1566
01:24:27,629 --> 01:24:31,232
could attribute the miracles
to someone other than God,
1567
01:24:31,499 --> 01:24:33,401
and they attributed it to
the devil instead.
1568
01:24:33,401 --> 01:24:34,803
Matthew, Chapter 12.
1569
01:24:34,803 --> 01:24:36,471
The Blasphemy
of the Holy Spirit.
1570
01:24:36,471 --> 01:24:38,573
They were attributing
to the devil
1571
01:24:38,573 --> 01:24:40,175
the works of the Holy Spirit.
1572
01:24:40,175 --> 01:24:42,877
That was the best
that unbelievers could come up.
1573
01:24:42,877 --> 01:24:47,449
When Peter and John healed
the man who had been born lame
1574
01:24:47,649 --> 01:24:49,250
from his mother's womb,
1575
01:24:49,250 --> 01:24:52,253
and he was laid at the gate
that is called beautiful.
1576
01:24:52,554 --> 01:24:56,191
This was a genuine miracle,
a genuine sign and wonder.
1577
01:24:56,491 --> 01:24:58,726
And everyone knew it.
1578
01:24:58,726 --> 01:24:59,861
And seeing the man
1579
01:24:59,861 --> 01:25:02,263
who had been healed,
standing with them,
1580
01:25:02,263 --> 01:25:05,066
they had nothing to say
in reply.
1581
01:25:05,066 --> 01:25:07,102
What shall we do with these men
1582
01:25:07,102 --> 01:25:08,870
for the fact
that a noteworthy miracle
1583
01:25:08,870 --> 01:25:10,572
has taken place through them
is apparent
1584
01:25:10,572 --> 01:25:14,976
to all who live in Jerusalem,
and we cannot deny it.
1585
01:25:16,144 --> 01:25:19,714
The New Testament
miracles could not be refuted.
1586
01:25:20,815 --> 01:25:23,118
I can absolutely refute
1587
01:25:23,118 --> 01:25:25,353
the fake signs and wonders
being purported
1588
01:25:25,353 --> 01:25:26,921
in the Charismatic Movement
today.
1589
01:25:26,921 --> 01:25:28,957
I can absolutely refute
1590
01:25:28,957 --> 01:25:32,393
what Todd White does out
on the street when he lengthens
1591
01:25:32,393 --> 01:25:34,696
people's legs by a half an inch.
1592
01:25:34,696 --> 01:25:37,065
That's a parlor trick
1593
01:26:03,825 --> 01:26:04,893
In the time of Jesus
1594
01:26:04,893 --> 01:26:09,164
and the Apostles, unbelievers
were scrambling for explanations
1595
01:26:09,430 --> 01:26:12,433
as to how these undeniable
healings could happen.
1596
01:26:12,500 --> 01:26:14,135
And today
it's exactly the opposite.
1597
01:26:14,135 --> 01:26:16,271
The people who believe in
gifts of healers
1598
01:26:16,271 --> 01:26:19,274
are scrambling to explain
why nothing is happening,
1599
01:26:19,374 --> 01:26:21,643
as it happened
in the days of Jesus.
1600
01:26:21,643 --> 01:26:24,646
A lot of people report healings
and you look back a year later,
1601
01:26:25,313 --> 01:26:27,782
it wasn't real, was it a lie?
1602
01:26:27,782 --> 01:26:28,950
Some people lie.
1603
01:26:28,950 --> 01:26:30,251
They just lie about healings.
1604
01:26:30,251 --> 01:26:32,187
Other people feel pressured,
1605
01:26:32,187 --> 01:26:33,888
so they say they're healed
when they're not.
1606
01:26:33,888 --> 01:26:36,257
Other people genuinely
feel good.
1607
01:26:36,257 --> 01:26:39,327
They feel better two days
and then check in a month
1608
01:26:39,327 --> 01:26:39,827
or two later.
1609
01:26:39,827 --> 01:26:42,830
Well, what was that?
I don't know.
1610
01:26:43,498 --> 01:26:46,501
The very fact that there is
a debate
1611
01:26:46,501 --> 01:26:51,206
is self-evident proof that these
sign gifts do not continue.
1612
01:26:53,074 --> 01:26:55,476
There’s healing
in the church today.
1613
01:26:55,476 --> 01:26:58,880
Of course. There’s instruction
in the
1614
01:26:59,380 --> 01:27:02,550
letter of James about
what's to be done,
1615
01:27:02,850 --> 01:27:06,888
and the elders are to be called
for and prayer is to be made.
1616
01:27:07,855 --> 01:27:11,125
But there isn't someone
who has a gift of healing.
1617
01:27:12,961 --> 01:27:16,164
One of my grandsons has got
Klinefelter syndrome.
1618
01:27:16,164 --> 01:27:19,200
He has an extra male
1619
01:27:20,335 --> 01:27:21,836
chromosome.
1620
01:27:21,836 --> 01:27:26,274
There's nobody in the world
today, nobody in South America
1621
01:27:26,941 --> 01:27:31,145
or Asia or Africa or North
America that we can call for
1622
01:27:32,413 --> 01:27:34,816
who could heal him.
1623
01:27:34,816 --> 01:27:37,352
Or those that have Down
syndrome.
1624
01:27:37,352 --> 01:27:41,489
There's no record of
a miraculous healing like that.
1625
01:27:42,023 --> 01:27:45,660
That was something
that was unique
1626
01:27:46,561 --> 01:27:50,298
in the ministry of the Lord
and his apostles.
1627
01:27:50,632 --> 01:27:53,635
At the end of the day,
when we pray for the sick,
1628
01:27:53,701 --> 01:27:56,237
we leave the results
in God's hands.
1629
01:27:56,237 --> 01:27:59,240
We know that God has the power
to heal.
1630
01:27:59,274 --> 01:28:00,875
He's the
one that created their body.
1631
01:28:02,043 --> 01:28:04,178
And so
we pray for their healing,
1632
01:28:04,178 --> 01:28:08,650
but we accept the outcome
as the will of God.
1633
01:28:09,350 --> 01:28:12,186
We are getting today
1634
01:28:12,186 --> 01:28:16,491
of restoration
and health restored
1635
01:28:16,491 --> 01:28:20,261
after illness, and the church
1636
01:28:21,296 --> 01:28:25,733
bringing a sick child,
bringing a cancer patient
1637
01:28:25,733 --> 01:28:29,137
and crying to God
that God would heal and God
1638
01:28:29,137 --> 01:28:31,372
hearing
and answering and healing.
1639
01:28:31,372 --> 01:28:34,375
But everyone is going to die.
1640
01:28:34,642 --> 01:28:37,779
And so,
you know, let's face up to that.
1641
01:28:38,313 --> 01:28:41,249
We see these things
through a glass darkly now,
1642
01:28:41,249 --> 01:28:44,719
but in heaven we'll be at peace
and we will know
1643
01:28:45,286 --> 01:28:49,090
why my wife died
as she did, why I have a
1644
01:28:50,158 --> 01:28:53,061
grandson
who's got an incurable condition
1645
01:28:53,061 --> 01:28:56,964
and God will make it
plain. God is good.
1646
01:28:57,732 --> 01:28:59,300
There will be a day.
1647
01:28:59,300 --> 01:29:02,437
Jesus Christ will raise
every body.
1648
01:29:03,104 --> 01:29:05,907
And everybody's dust,
1649
01:29:05,907 --> 01:29:09,043
which is precious
in the eyes of God, will be
1650
01:29:10,011 --> 01:29:12,080
glorified and transformed.
1651
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:15,550
They will be the resurrection
unto glory.
1652
01:29:15,983 --> 01:29:17,919
We look forward to that.
1653
01:29:17,919 --> 01:29:20,922
But we don't see that today.
1654
01:29:22,523 --> 01:29:25,893
And we cannot see it today
because it's not the time
1655
01:29:26,361 --> 01:29:29,097
for that to happen today
1656
01:29:29,097 --> 01:29:32,100
in the Bible,
what we see is that
1657
01:29:32,200 --> 01:29:36,270
Christians are told to pray
for one another,
1658
01:29:37,438 --> 01:29:39,674
but that's not what the modern
healing movement teaches
1659
01:29:39,674 --> 01:29:42,043
with the modern healing movement
teaches us that there's
1660
01:29:42,043 --> 01:29:44,011
some amount of faith
that we generate
1661
01:29:44,011 --> 01:29:47,615
or some confidence we need to
have in some particular healer
1662
01:29:48,116 --> 01:29:51,319
that that he can,
as it were, by his own, will
1663
01:29:52,253 --> 01:29:55,356
heal us because of a gift
that he's been given by God.
1664
01:29:55,356 --> 01:29:57,725
And the sad reality of it is
1665
01:29:57,725 --> 01:30:01,095
it is a tremendous source
of confusion
1666
01:30:01,262 --> 01:30:06,000
and disappointment for so many
people who believe the lies.
1667
01:30:08,369 --> 01:30:11,172
If it's
always God's will to be healed,
1668
01:30:11,172 --> 01:30:13,141
but the healing does not come,
1669
01:30:13,141 --> 01:30:16,110
then the question must be asked
Whose fault is it?
1670
01:30:17,178 --> 01:30:20,081
It cannot be God's fault
because he's perfect.
1671
01:30:20,081 --> 01:30:23,284
So the only other one to whom to
look is the one who is sick.
1672
01:30:24,152 --> 01:30:27,422
Lack of faith, lack
of making the right confessions,
1673
01:30:27,688 --> 01:30:29,257
lack of giving.
1674
01:30:29,257 --> 01:30:31,659
Maybe you're not even saved.
1675
01:30:31,659 --> 01:30:34,662
It must be your fault
because it can't be God's fault.
1676
01:30:41,402 --> 01:30:44,939
So for the last few years,
I have believed in miracles.
1677
01:30:44,939 --> 01:30:48,609
And I have believed for healing,
you know, and I'm so shocked
1678
01:30:48,643 --> 01:30:51,746
because every time I would pray,
nothing would happen.
1679
01:30:53,381 --> 01:30:55,616
It gets discouraging.
1680
01:30:55,616 --> 01:30:59,520
Sometimes I’d even go oversees
to where I'd hear about
1681
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,890
all these miracles happening,
go, Let me at least see it.
1682
01:31:03,791 --> 01:31:04,625
And I'd get there.
1683
01:31:04,625 --> 01:31:07,762
Whether Africa,
India, whatever, and nothing.
1684
01:31:08,996 --> 01:31:09,630
And then
1685
01:31:09,630 --> 01:31:12,867
two weeks
ago we were in Myanmar, Burma.
1686
01:31:13,634 --> 01:31:16,437
So I've heard of
some evangelicals
1687
01:31:16,437 --> 01:31:19,440
who have gone to a place
called Myanmar or Burma.
1688
01:31:19,841 --> 01:31:23,478
I can't even tell you
how intense,
1689
01:31:23,845 --> 01:31:27,782
how amazing the experiences
we had were.
1690
01:31:28,049 --> 01:31:30,251
This lady had built
relationship
1691
01:31:30,251 --> 01:31:32,453
and somehow was able to work out
1692
01:31:32,453 --> 01:31:35,456
so that we could
go into the village.
1693
01:31:35,456 --> 01:31:39,560
and while there have claimed
that they actually came along
1694
01:31:39,827 --> 01:31:41,929
and healed everyone,
they touched.
1695
01:31:41,929 --> 01:31:43,998
Everyone who touched them was
healed.
1696
01:31:43,998 --> 01:31:47,001
People started coming forward
for healing.
1697
01:31:48,169 --> 01:31:51,873
Every person I touched
was healed.
1698
01:31:52,940 --> 01:31:55,943
You guys okay?
1699
01:31:57,245 --> 01:32:00,715
This is this is craziness to me.
1700
01:32:01,015 --> 01:32:05,887
I have never
experienced this in 52 years.
1701
01:32:06,921 --> 01:32:09,924
And what's interesting about
that story is
1702
01:32:10,391 --> 01:32:12,793
I actually know of men
who are church planters
1703
01:32:12,793 --> 01:32:14,061
on the ground in that country,
1704
01:32:15,329 --> 01:32:16,264
who know the men
1705
01:32:16,264 --> 01:32:19,267
who arrange these healings.
1706
01:32:20,034 --> 01:32:22,003
Unbeknownst
to the visiting preacher,
1707
01:32:22,003 --> 01:32:23,738
poor people of all ages in
1708
01:32:23,738 --> 01:32:27,742
a village are hired to act
as if they are deaf or blind,
1709
01:32:28,042 --> 01:32:31,412
and they are instructed
to play out a dramatic healing
1710
01:32:31,412 --> 01:32:34,081
when the visiting preacher
touches them.
1711
01:32:34,081 --> 01:32:37,718
In this elaborate scam,
the preacher is actually tricked
1712
01:32:37,718 --> 01:32:41,122
into believing
that he is performing miracles.
1713
01:32:42,490 --> 01:32:44,592
I'm talking like a little boy
1714
01:32:44,592 --> 01:32:47,595
and a little girl who were deaf.
1715
01:32:48,896 --> 01:32:50,064
We lay hands,
1716
01:32:50,064 --> 01:32:52,767
she starts
crying and smi -
1717
01:32:52,767 --> 01:32:54,368
Again these are not Christians.
1718
01:32:54,368 --> 01:32:57,371
These are not people
you ever heard about Jesus?
1719
01:32:57,972 --> 01:33:00,975
There's fees paid out
to various people to heal,
1720
01:33:01,309 --> 01:33:02,076
because what that does
1721
01:33:02,076 --> 01:33:03,711
is that brings
more American preachers
1722
01:33:03,711 --> 01:33:05,413
and then more money
into the country.
1723
01:33:05,413 --> 01:33:07,682
And so they arrange
a series of healings
1724
01:33:07,682 --> 01:33:09,450
and these men
come back with these stories.
1725
01:33:10,384 --> 01:33:12,753
And we’re like, lay
hands on your little brother.
1726
01:33:12,753 --> 01:33:16,924
You know, we lay hands on him
and he starts hearing
1727
01:33:16,924 --> 01:33:21,262
for the first time. You guys,
this is out of my comfort zone.
1728
01:33:21,429 --> 01:33:24,932
This is stuff I’d read about,
but I'm going, man, it happened.
1729
01:33:25,132 --> 01:33:27,401
It happened.
1730
01:33:27,401 --> 01:33:29,637
They're being suckered.
1731
01:33:29,637 --> 01:33:31,539
Unfortunately, we go overseas
1732
01:33:31,539 --> 01:33:34,542
and we lose all sense
of discernment.
1733
01:33:34,642 --> 01:33:37,044
Things we would never consider
acceptable here,
1734
01:33:37,044 --> 01:33:39,113
We just go overseas
and discernment is gone
1735
01:33:39,113 --> 01:33:40,548
and we just we're just suckers
1736
01:33:40,548 --> 01:33:43,050
for every charlatan
that comes along.
1737
01:33:43,050 --> 01:33:45,686
I thought I had faith,
1738
01:33:45,686 --> 01:33:48,689
but my faith was
at another level.
1739
01:33:48,889 --> 01:33:52,059
One of the reasons
I absolutely despise
1740
01:33:52,693 --> 01:33:54,895
the charismatic movement
and all that it does
1741
01:33:54,895 --> 01:33:57,498
is because it teaches people
to be gullible
1742
01:33:57,498 --> 01:34:00,801
and open
to the idea of fake miracles.
1743
01:34:00,801 --> 01:34:02,203
And as soon as they discover
1744
01:34:03,204 --> 01:34:05,906
this isn't real, it's fake,
1745
01:34:05,906 --> 01:34:08,743
they don't just abandon
their Charismatic convictions.
1746
01:34:08,743 --> 01:34:12,446
They sometimes abandon
faith in Christ altogether.
1747
01:34:13,247 --> 01:34:15,182
What I'm struck with is not just
1748
01:34:15,182 --> 01:34:16,684
this doesn't fit with the Bible,
1749
01:34:16,684 --> 01:34:20,688
although it doesn't fit in
any way with biblical teaching.
1750
01:34:20,688 --> 01:34:25,226
But but just the human cost,
the spiritual cost of this
1751
01:34:25,226 --> 01:34:27,361
kind of false
teaching at a moment
1752
01:34:27,361 --> 01:34:31,098
when when individuals
are at their most desperate
1753
01:34:31,098 --> 01:34:35,536
and have the most openness
to hearing genuine truth
1754
01:34:35,770 --> 01:34:39,240
God and know they need something
from God, know that they’re
1755
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:40,975
that they're insufficient
1756
01:34:40,975 --> 01:34:43,411
in themselves
to do what needs to be done,
1757
01:34:43,411 --> 01:34:45,413
and they're looking to the Lord
in some way.
1758
01:34:45,413 --> 01:34:48,416
And yet someone steps in
and gives them this
1759
01:34:48,582 --> 01:34:51,585
this false,
self-aggrandizing teaching.
1760
01:34:52,486 --> 01:34:55,489
I've seen many other lives
be destroyed
1761
01:34:55,923 --> 01:34:58,626
when they finally woke up
and realized
1762
01:34:58,626 --> 01:35:00,895
these things aren't even real.
1763
01:35:00,895 --> 01:35:02,396
They think nothing is real.
1764
01:35:02,963 --> 01:35:04,899
They question
whether Christ is real,
1765
01:35:04,899 --> 01:35:08,069
and it's hard to get anyone
who's gone through that
1766
01:35:08,335 --> 01:35:11,739
to come back and take a serious
look at faith in Christ
1767
01:35:12,239 --> 01:35:15,176
focused on the Gospel
rather than focused on
1768
01:35:15,176 --> 01:35:16,277
these phony miracles.
1769
01:35:20,314 --> 01:35:23,851
For the first 15
years of my pastoral ministry,
1770
01:35:23,851 --> 01:35:26,854
I was a very rigid,
1771
01:35:26,854 --> 01:35:30,357
dogmatic, cynical, snarky,
1772
01:35:31,459 --> 01:35:32,560
Cessationist
1773
01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:34,662
who did not
believe that the Spirit of God
1774
01:35:35,029 --> 01:35:38,265
operates in the fashion
as he did in the early Church.
1775
01:35:38,733 --> 01:35:41,435
To my everlasting shame
for which I have repented many,
1776
01:35:41,435 --> 01:35:44,438
many times
1777
01:35:44,705 --> 01:35:46,741
when I read my New Testament
1778
01:35:46,741 --> 01:35:50,511
and I see the way in which Jesus
and the Apostles
1779
01:35:50,878 --> 01:35:54,515
were confirmed
through the miraculous signs
1780
01:35:54,515 --> 01:35:57,918
that they performed
as messengers of God,
1781
01:35:57,952 --> 01:36:00,955
who brought new revelation
from God.
1782
01:36:02,823 --> 01:36:04,658
And I read about the way in
1783
01:36:04,658 --> 01:36:08,195
which the gift of tongues
operated on the day of Pentecost
1784
01:36:08,763 --> 01:36:12,266
and the 16 different language
groups that were represented
1785
01:36:12,333 --> 01:36:14,969
in terms of dialects
and languages spoken
1786
01:36:14,969 --> 01:36:17,204
by those who were giving praise
to God
1787
01:36:17,204 --> 01:36:19,440
in languages they’d
never learned before
1788
01:36:20,808 --> 01:36:22,443
And I read about the
1789
01:36:22,443 --> 01:36:26,480
way in which people
were healed immediately and
1790
01:36:26,747 --> 01:36:30,851
undeniably with a spoken word
or with the touch of a hand.
1791
01:36:30,851 --> 01:36:33,354
I read that on the pages
of my New Testament,
1792
01:36:33,354 --> 01:36:36,357
it just makes me
want to fall down and worship
1793
01:36:36,457 --> 01:36:41,295
because our God is a great God
and the Spirit was doing
1794
01:36:41,295 --> 01:36:46,000
amazing things to confirm
the person and work of Christ.
1795
01:36:46,734 --> 01:36:49,737
When I compare that to
1796
01:36:50,004 --> 01:36:53,040
fallible, errant prophecy
1797
01:36:53,641 --> 01:36:56,310
to speaking gibberish.
1798
01:37:00,381 --> 01:37:02,149
to hucksters
1799
01:37:02,149 --> 01:37:05,152
getting up and pretending
to heal people.
1800
01:37:06,253 --> 01:37:08,622
It's my zeal
1801
01:37:08,622 --> 01:37:12,860
to see the true work
of the Holy Spirit magnified
1802
01:37:13,327 --> 01:37:17,765
that motivates me to call out,
and confront that
1803
01:37:17,765 --> 01:37:21,769
which uses the same language,
but is not the same thing.
1804
01:37:23,070 --> 01:37:26,073
I think
the most dangerous aspect
1805
01:37:26,574 --> 01:37:29,109
of those who believe
in the continuation
1806
01:37:29,109 --> 01:37:32,112
of the extraordinary
gifts of the Spirit
1807
01:37:32,580 --> 01:37:35,282
is ultimately to confuse
1808
01:37:35,282 --> 01:37:38,285
their experience
with conversion.
1809
01:37:38,552 --> 01:37:41,655
People can have many experiences
1810
01:37:42,189 --> 01:37:44,892
that maybe
look exactly the same as what
1811
01:37:44,892 --> 01:37:47,895
Muslims and Mormons
and other people claim.
1812
01:37:49,063 --> 01:37:52,032
You can look at people
exhibiting Hindu Kundalini
1813
01:37:52,433 --> 01:37:55,436
and those look exactly like
1814
01:37:55,536 --> 01:37:58,772
you see in charismatic churches
today.
1815
01:37:59,139 --> 01:38:00,541
They laugh uncontrollably,
1816
01:38:00,541 --> 01:38:03,544
they get slain in the Spirit
and they speak in tongues
1817
01:38:03,711 --> 01:38:07,381
in exactly the same way
that Charismatics do.
1818
01:38:07,381 --> 01:38:10,317
You literally cannot
tell the difference.
1819
01:38:10,317 --> 01:38:12,486
Ey, Ma, ma, ma, ma
1820
01:38:19,860 --> 01:38:22,863
They look exactly alike.
1821
01:38:23,430 --> 01:38:26,400
Pagans do it too.
1822
01:38:29,103 --> 01:38:30,771
It's very possible
1823
01:38:30,771 --> 01:38:34,708
for us to rest
in extraordinary experiences
1824
01:38:34,708 --> 01:38:36,744
that we've had
or believe that we've had,
1825
01:38:38,445 --> 01:38:39,013
rather than
1826
01:38:39,013 --> 01:38:42,016
resting safely in Jesus Christ.
1827
01:38:42,816 --> 01:38:45,419
Charismaticism
was invented around
1828
01:38:45,419 --> 01:38:48,422
the turn of the 20th century.
1829
01:38:48,522 --> 01:38:50,758
They've had a hundred years
to produce
1830
01:38:50,758 --> 01:38:53,761
anything that all Christians
would look at and say
1831
01:38:53,761 --> 01:38:57,031
that really validates
charismatic distinctives.
1832
01:38:58,599 --> 01:39:00,034
Just imagine
1833
01:39:00,034 --> 01:39:02,069
one person, just one
1834
01:39:02,069 --> 01:39:04,605
with the gift of healing
going in and empty out
1835
01:39:04,605 --> 01:39:08,542
just one ward of children
dying of cancer
1836
01:39:09,810 --> 01:39:10,778
They’ve had 100 years.
1837
01:39:10,778 --> 01:39:13,781
They haven't done anything
like that.
1838
01:39:14,281 --> 01:39:16,684
If a Charismatic
wants to make the case
1839
01:39:16,684 --> 01:39:19,687
that revelatory and attesting
gifts are still operative,
1840
01:39:19,954 --> 01:39:22,957
he has to argue that case.
1841
01:39:23,590 --> 01:39:26,994
If they were still continuing,
no argument would be necessary.
1842
01:39:27,928 --> 01:39:30,931
We'd all know it.
1843
01:39:31,932 --> 01:39:34,902
There is another possibility -
1844
01:39:34,902 --> 01:39:38,105
that these gifts did
what God meant them to do
1845
01:39:38,672 --> 01:39:41,675
and they've retired, successfully.
1846
01:39:43,777 --> 01:39:46,313
Cessationism is false doctrine.
1847
01:39:46,313 --> 01:39:47,881
If you're going to
a Cessationist church,
1848
01:39:47,881 --> 01:39:48,916
you need to go find a new church
1849
01:39:48,916 --> 01:39:50,584
‘cause nobody should be
going to church
1850
01:39:50,584 --> 01:39:52,653
hearing about what
God isn't doing anymore.
1851
01:39:52,653 --> 01:39:53,554
We need to be in a church
1852
01:39:53,554 --> 01:39:56,056
where we're talking about
what God is doing today.
1853
01:39:56,056 --> 01:39:59,793
Cessationism
is not about limiting
1854
01:39:59,793 --> 01:40:01,795
the work of the Holy Spirit.
1855
01:40:01,795 --> 01:40:05,432
It is instead
about magnifying the true
1856
01:40:05,432 --> 01:40:09,203
work of the Holy Spirit
and not being satisfied
1857
01:40:09,203 --> 01:40:12,206
with cheap substitutes
or counterfeits.
1858
01:40:12,773 --> 01:40:14,441
We've got to really back up
1859
01:40:14,441 --> 01:40:17,678
and ask a really fundamental
question about
1860
01:40:17,911 --> 01:40:19,947
who the Holy Spirit is
and what he's doing.
1861
01:40:19,947 --> 01:40:23,550
The Son is sent by the Father
on mission for a particular work
1862
01:40:23,917 --> 01:40:25,285
To redeem us.
1863
01:40:25,285 --> 01:40:28,288
And he pours out the Spirit
for a particular reason.
1864
01:40:28,322 --> 01:40:31,792
He says he's sending the promise
of the father upon us.
1865
01:40:32,192 --> 01:40:33,293
For what purpose?
1866
01:40:33,293 --> 01:40:34,428
That we would be his witnesses-
1867
01:40:34,428 --> 01:40:36,430
And particularly there
he means the apostles, first
1868
01:40:36,430 --> 01:40:39,433
and foremost - in Jerusalem,
starting there,
1869
01:40:39,433 --> 01:40:41,869
and then to the nations,
to Judea,
1870
01:40:41,869 --> 01:40:43,604
Samaria,
to the ends of the earth.
1871
01:40:43,604 --> 01:40:48,175
So the Holy Spirit’s mission -
his whole mission - is to come
1872
01:40:48,175 --> 01:40:52,079
and proclaim the work of Christ
through the Apostles,
1873
01:40:52,079 --> 01:40:54,415
and then the church they found
1874
01:40:56,917 --> 01:40:58,052
He's going to preach that
1875
01:40:58,052 --> 01:41:01,055
work through those preachers.
1876
01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:07,127
The Spirit
1877
01:41:07,127 --> 01:41:10,431
is going to take that Word,
and he's going to transform them
1878
01:41:10,898 --> 01:41:13,901
so that they believe that Word.
1879
01:41:14,234 --> 01:41:16,703
In John 16,
Jesus said that he would
1880
01:41:16,703 --> 01:41:19,473
send the Holy Spirit
and He would convict the world
1881
01:41:19,473 --> 01:41:22,443
concerning sin
and righteousness and judgment.
1882
01:41:23,510 --> 01:41:25,379
when God's Word is spoken,
1883
01:41:25,379 --> 01:41:29,049
and we see, according to the law
that we've broken God's law
1884
01:41:29,283 --> 01:41:30,951
and our hearts are convicted
1885
01:41:30,951 --> 01:41:33,987
and we realize I am worthy
of the judgment of God
1886
01:41:34,855 --> 01:41:38,459
when the Gospel is declared,
the good news that Jesus Christ
1887
01:41:38,792 --> 01:41:41,595
died for our sins
as an atoning sacrifice,
1888
01:41:41,595 --> 01:41:44,298
that he rose from the dead,
conquering the grave,
1889
01:41:44,298 --> 01:41:46,900
that he ascended into heaven,
and he’s seated at
1890
01:41:46,900 --> 01:41:49,970
the right hand of the Father,
interceding on our behalf.
1891
01:41:49,970 --> 01:41:51,939
We come to
receive and accept those truths
1892
01:41:51,939 --> 01:41:54,441
because of the power
of the Holy Spirit.
1893
01:41:54,441 --> 01:41:58,479
As John 6:44 says,
No man can come to me
1894
01:41:58,479 --> 01:42:01,682
except the Father
who sent me draws him.
1895
01:42:12,626 --> 01:42:16,497
Long my imprisoned spirit
lay fast bound in sin
1896
01:42:16,497 --> 01:42:19,500
and nature's night.
1897
01:42:19,500 --> 01:42:22,503
His heart is a heart of stone.
1898
01:42:26,373 --> 01:42:29,376
God removes that heart of stone
1899
01:42:33,046 --> 01:42:34,214
and He replaces it
1900
01:42:34,214 --> 01:42:37,217
with a heart of flesh
that is alive.
1901
01:42:51,031 --> 01:42:54,001
It is the work of regeneration.
1902
01:42:56,403 --> 01:42:59,373
God breathes into a dead man
1903
01:43:02,342 --> 01:43:05,345
and He brings a person to life,
1904
01:43:07,915 --> 01:43:10,918
Opening up somebody’s eyes
1905
01:43:11,552 --> 01:43:14,588
so that they see Jesus.
1906
01:43:15,489 --> 01:43:17,858
That is the miracle
of the new birth.
1907
01:43:17,858 --> 01:43:21,428
That's what the Spirit of God
is doing all over the place.
1908
01:43:23,363 --> 01:43:25,532
The Spirit comes into the soul
1909
01:43:25,532 --> 01:43:28,535
of the believer and enables
their minds
1910
01:43:28,802 --> 01:43:32,406
to comprehend, to receive,
with meekness, to believe,
1911
01:43:32,639 --> 01:43:36,376
to be impacted
and transformed by that Word.
1912
01:43:38,312 --> 01:43:40,981
That I think is the huge mistake
people make.
1913
01:43:40,981 --> 01:43:42,249
They think the Spirit
1914
01:43:42,249 --> 01:43:45,252
is going to speak to them
outside the Scripture
1915
01:43:45,252 --> 01:43:50,757
when the wonderful reality,
the joy of being a Christian
1916
01:43:50,757 --> 01:43:52,292
and coming to the Scripture
1917
01:43:52,292 --> 01:43:54,861
is the Holy Spirit
turns on the light
1918
01:43:54,861 --> 01:43:58,532
to the Scripture itself
and enables us to understand it
1919
01:43:58,832 --> 01:44:02,135
in a deep,
profound, life changing way.
1920
01:44:08,041 --> 01:44:09,276
We need, really, a
1921
01:44:09,276 --> 01:44:12,279
clarion call to the substantial.
1922
01:44:13,380 --> 01:44:15,882
It's a lot more exciting
1923
01:44:15,882 --> 01:44:20,120
to go see someone stand up
out of a wheelchair,
1924
01:44:20,220 --> 01:44:24,224
supposedly, than it is
to be told from the pulpit
1925
01:44:24,625 --> 01:44:27,561
You need to die
the self every day.
1926
01:44:27,561 --> 01:44:29,630
You need to take up your cross.
1927
01:44:29,630 --> 01:44:32,466
You need to be following
the Lord Jesus Christ.
1928
01:44:32,466 --> 01:44:35,168
You need greater self-control
1929
01:44:35,168 --> 01:44:37,771
through the Ministry
of the Holy Spirit in your life.
1930
01:44:37,771 --> 01:44:41,108
You need to be putting to death
obvious sins.
1931
01:44:41,108 --> 01:44:42,509
You need to be growing in
likeness
1932
01:44:42,509 --> 01:44:44,044
to the Lord Jesus Christ.
1933
01:44:44,044 --> 01:44:46,546
You're
not going to gather a crowd
1934
01:44:46,546 --> 01:44:48,515
with those sorts of emphases.
1935
01:44:48,515 --> 01:44:51,518
But that's where the emphasis
falls in the Bible.
1936
01:44:51,685 --> 01:44:54,755
The Spirit seals us,
and sanctifies us and guides
1937
01:44:54,755 --> 01:44:56,156
our steps providentially.
1938
01:44:56,156 --> 01:44:57,858
He comforts us,
he encourages us,
1939
01:44:57,858 --> 01:44:59,459
He illuminates
the Word of God to us.
1940
01:44:59,459 --> 01:45:01,728
He regenerates us, He gives us
spiritual gifts.
1941
01:45:01,728 --> 01:45:03,430
He empowers those for service.
1942
01:45:03,430 --> 01:45:06,366
He uses those gifts in the lives
of other people that we serve.
1943
01:45:06,366 --> 01:45:08,969
In the power of those gifts,
He builds his church.
1944
01:45:08,969 --> 01:45:11,071
He unites us around the truth.
1945
01:45:11,071 --> 01:45:12,973
All of these things,
the Spirit of God does,
1946
01:45:12,973 --> 01:45:15,776
and they don't necessarily
put goose bumps on our arms.
1947
01:45:15,776 --> 01:45:18,612
They are the unnoticed
and everyday work
1948
01:45:18,612 --> 01:45:19,413
that the Spirit of God
1949
01:45:19,413 --> 01:45:22,816
does in His people
for the glory of our God.
1950
01:45:23,517 --> 01:45:25,385
Peter's Pentecost sermon
1951
01:45:25,385 --> 01:45:27,187
He promised them
that they would receive
1952
01:45:27,187 --> 01:45:29,222
the gift of the Holy Spirit.
1953
01:45:29,222 --> 01:45:32,392
The gift that He was talking
about was the Person
1954
01:45:32,392 --> 01:45:33,794
of the Holy Spirit.
1955
01:45:33,794 --> 01:45:35,462
God has many attributes.
1956
01:45:35,462 --> 01:45:38,799
We talk about His love, His
mercy, his justice, His grace,
1957
01:45:39,533 --> 01:45:41,968
another attribute of God
1958
01:45:41,968 --> 01:45:47,107
is that He gives His Holy Spirit
to people, to sinners.
1959
01:45:47,474 --> 01:45:48,742
He gives Himself.
1960
01:45:48,742 --> 01:45:50,310
He gives the gift of himself.
1961
01:45:51,778 --> 01:45:53,113
Well, if we don't have the
1962
01:45:53,113 --> 01:45:56,116
miraculous gifts,
what do we have?
1963
01:45:56,183 --> 01:45:59,219
We have the self-authenticating
word of God
1964
01:46:00,087 --> 01:46:03,957
when we have Holy Spirit of God
promise to bless that word.
1965
01:46:04,424 --> 01:46:07,894
There's
no reason for disappointment.
1966
01:46:08,362 --> 01:46:11,298
Well, is that it? Yes.
1967
01:46:11,298 --> 01:46:15,902
We have the self-authenticating
word of God, accompanied
1968
01:46:15,902 --> 01:46:18,872
and attested by the Holy Spirit,
1969
01:46:19,005 --> 01:46:22,542
and that is all we need.
1970
01:46:24,277 --> 01:46:26,413
What does Jesus say?
1971
01:46:26,413 --> 01:46:29,416
He says,
if they don't believe the Word,
1972
01:46:29,850 --> 01:46:31,918
they're not going to believe
1973
01:46:31,918 --> 01:46:34,921
even someone who has been raised
from the dead.
1974
01:46:36,390 --> 01:46:38,759
This word
1975
01:46:38,759 --> 01:46:41,762
is the final Word.
1976
01:47:17,531 --> 01:47:20,534
♪ I ain't got no money ♪
1977
01:47:21,468 --> 01:47:24,471
♪ I ain't got no change ♪
1978
01:47:25,472 --> 01:47:29,810
♪ I ain't got a dollar bill ♪
1979
01:47:29,810 --> 01:47:32,312
♪ to my name ♪
1980
01:47:33,480 --> 01:47:37,651
♪ I ain't got a dime ♪
1981
01:47:37,651 --> 01:47:41,021
♪ I ain't got a cent. No ♪
1982
01:47:41,688 --> 01:47:45,459
♪ But I got a lot,
a whole lot of love ♪
1983
01:47:45,459 --> 01:47:48,695
♪ that I haven’t yet spent ♪
1984
01:47:49,629 --> 01:47:53,533
♪ wooooooooh ♪
1985
01:48:05,045 --> 01:48:09,316
♪ I ain’t got no rubies ♪
1986
01:48:09,316 --> 01:48:13,320
♪ I ain’t got no pearls ♪
1987
01:48:13,420 --> 01:48:17,991
♪ I ain't got no diamonds ♪
1988
01:48:17,991 --> 01:48:21,461
♪ to give to my girl ♪
1989
01:48:21,661 --> 01:48:25,565
♪ But what I do have ♪
1990
01:48:25,732 --> 01:48:28,735
♪ I’ll share with you ♪
1991
01:48:29,736 --> 01:48:37,477
♪ cuz what we got is all we need
when this life is through ♪
1992
01:48:37,611 --> 01:48:40,514
♪ Whoa, whoa, whoa ♪
1993
01:48:40,514 --> 01:48:44,017
♪ whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa ♪
1994
01:48:45,352 --> 01:48:48,321
♪ whoa, whoa ♪
1995
01:48:49,422 --> 01:48:51,892
♪ whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa ♪
1996
01:48:52,826 --> 01:48:56,229
♪ Oh I ain’t got no mansion ♪
1997
01:48:57,430 --> 01:49:01,067
♪ Here on this earth ♪
1998
01:49:01,067 --> 01:49:05,005
♪ All my posessions ♪
1999
01:49:05,005 --> 01:49:09,175
♪ they ain’t got no worth ♪
2000
01:49:10,010 --> 01:49:13,013
♪ But i put my stock in ♪
2001
01:49:13,013 --> 01:49:17,150
♪ my future rest ♪
2002
01:49:17,150 --> 01:49:19,119
♪ so if you’re asking me ♪
2003
01:49:19,119 --> 01:49:21,221
♪ I got all I need ♪
2004
01:49:21,221 --> 01:49:28,194
♪ and I’m truly blessed ♪
2005
01:49:57,090 --> 01:50:00,093
♪ Ain't got no money ♪
2006
01:50:00,794 --> 01:50:04,197
♪ ain’t got no change ♪
2007
01:50:04,898 --> 01:50:09,469
♪ I ain't got a dollar bill ♪
2008
01:50:09,469 --> 01:50:11,705
♪ to my name ♪
2009
01:50:12,906 --> 01:50:16,843
♪ I ain’t got a dime ♪
2010
01:50:16,843 --> 01:50:20,146
♪ I ain’t got a cent ♪
2011
01:50:20,146 --> 01:50:21,514
♪ no ♪
2012
01:50:21,514 --> 01:50:24,517
♪ but i got a lot ♪
2013
01:50:24,517 --> 01:50:27,053
♪ whole lot of love ♪
2014
01:50:27,053 --> 01:50:32,559
♪ that I haven’t yet spent ♪
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