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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,960 Last on "Rich Man, Poor Man - Book ll": 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,157 - Dillors called a subcommittee meeting. - Why wasrt I informed? 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,995 Rumour has it he's out to quash the Estep investigation and doesn't want you there. 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,197 Now, I demand, right now, that you produce evidence 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:18,068 that Tricorp is guilty of subverting public servants and due process. 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:21,232 - I can't, Senator. It would cost too much. - Cost? 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,914 Now he's worried about cost. How much? 8 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:25,274 Another life. 9 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:29,035 Charles, Jordache knows that I'm on your payroll. 10 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,590 - He'll tell the world unless I resign. - You're staying. 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,673 Are you talking to some janitor or to a United States senator?! 12 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:39,911 If you're on my payroll, no difference. 13 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,150 Why did Falconetti call me? 14 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,310 Forget Falconetti. Where's Claire? 15 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:48,837 Raymond, that was a Senate subpoena. A Senate subpoena. 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,757 If we don't find her, they will. 17 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,592 - It'll cost you. - How much? 18 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:57,036 Well, I don't look up G in the phone book for under 500. 19 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,951 - 500? - What's the name? 20 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,190 Falconetti. Anthony Falconetti. 21 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,716 - I'm not a burglar. - You're whatever you have to be. 22 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:08,270 The depositions, when they're not with Rudy, they're locked up. 23 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,191 I can't even find out where. 24 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,831 How about that problem you were having? Work itself out? 25 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,033 I think it's about to. 26 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,192 - John Franklin. - Thank you. 27 00:03:14,920 --> 00:03:18,595 Then I want those Justice Department prosecutors called, one by one. 28 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,240 - They'll deny everything. - Oh, I want them to. 29 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,198 We'll have two shots at them - before they know what we have 30 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:28,512 and after Franklin testifies they accepted bribes from Charles Estep. 31 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,832 - You're learning fast, Senator. - I had a pretty fair teacher, Senator. 32 00:03:32,920 --> 00:03:36,037 - How's your stomach? - Somewhere around my Adam's apple. 33 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,315 Opening-night jitters. 34 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,914 This is a big moment for you, Rudy. 35 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,515 The right kind of investigation can make a political career. 36 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,353 Look what Alger Hiss did for Mr Nixon. 37 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:49,954 I'm not interested in emulating Mr Nixon. 38 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:54,318 All I wanna do is give Charles Estep a taste of prison food. 39 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,197 Ben... 40 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,909 Have you decided about the distinguished senator from Oklahoma? 41 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:05,230 Dillors a bona fide member of the committee. 42 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,677 He's also a $100,000-a-year consultant to one of Estep's industries. 43 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:14,675 There's no law against any elected public official working for a private company. 44 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,274 Oh, come off it, Ben. 45 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,069 You sound like a press release from Dillors office. 46 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:26,075 That elected official is sitting on the committee investigating his employer. 47 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,232 Do you think we might have a slight conflict of interests? 48 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,710 If you've got the proof, Rudy, all Dillon can do is huff and puff. 49 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,999 If he does any more than that, I'm gonna blow the whistle on him. 50 00:04:41,280 --> 00:04:45,239 Rudy, the Senate is the most exclusive club in the world. 51 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,834 One member does not publicly embarrass another. 52 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:51,196 Embarrass him with what?! Facts?! 53 00:04:51,280 --> 00:04:56,957 A word of advice from a man who's hung his hat here a lot longer than you have - 54 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,510 don't make an issue out of Dillors connection with Estep. 55 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,672 Afraid I'll be drummed out of the club? 56 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,912 Gets awfully cold outside, Rudy. 57 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:15,389 A man could freeze to death before his term was over. 58 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,155 (buzzer) 59 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,354 - Hello, Senator. - Raymond. 60 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,556 - Morning, Charles. - Morning. 61 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:34,949 I got the order of witnesses. 62 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,191 - Raymond first, you, then your wife. - Claire's still missing. 63 00:05:38,280 --> 00:05:41,636 I've got a doctor standing by to testify she's in a Dallas hospital 64 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,632 recuperating from, um... What did we decide? 65 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,836 - Hepatitis. - Hepatitis. 66 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:51,118 No. If Jordache wants her bad enough, he'll fly the committee to that hospital. 67 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:53,998 It's gonna be embarrassing to find an empty bed. 68 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:58,756 One step at a time. Right now, I wanna know what Jordache is gonna hit us with. 69 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:01,149 Those Justice Department payoffs for one. 70 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,471 - What else? - Let's don't blow that by so fast, Charles. 71 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,790 Can he prove that you bribed those fellas? 72 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:09,713 - That is not my main concern. - Franklin can prove it. 73 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,598 And he'll be taken care off. 74 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,478 I need to know what other areas Jordache is going into. 75 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:20,429 Oh, well, uh... I'm afraid that's still a mystery, Charles. 76 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:29,352 Senator, I don't pay you $100,000 a year for that kind of answer. 77 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:35,276 I swear Jordache has that evidence in his shorts. Nobody's seen it except Paxton. 78 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:39,558 Look, he didn't subpoena Claire to talk about bribery in the Justice Department. 79 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:45,192 He knows her father's Albert Dietrich. He's probably got the whole thing put together. 80 00:06:45,280 --> 00:06:48,431 - Who's Albert Dietrich? - You wouldn't wanna know, Senator. 81 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,717 Charles, I have grave misgivings about this whole thing. 82 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,553 I am a sitting duck up there on that committee. 83 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:59,760 If Jordache brings out our association, I could be looking for a job next election. 84 00:06:59,840 --> 00:07:04,550 And if certain information gets out, I could spend the better part of my life in prison, 85 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:07,200 if I don't get lynched first. 86 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,115 I'll tell you what you're gonna have to do. 87 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:17,193 You're gonna have to oil up that famous Oklahoma drawl 88 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:22,149 and every time Jordache gets even that far away from an open nerve, 89 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:26,518 well, you're gonna have to get yourself to talking like your life depended on it. 90 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,192 Right? 91 00:08:58,200 --> 00:08:59,997 (siren) 92 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,000 - How was your flight? - How do you think it was? 93 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,594 2,000 miles with that thing over my face. 94 00:09:07,680 --> 00:09:11,355 I didn't know if I'd die of suffocation or go crazy with claustrophobia. 95 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,318 - You wanted these precautions. - I know, I know, I know. 96 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,790 After two days with Charles in Dallas, I didn't wanna take chances. 97 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,634 - What did he want? - Supposedly to go over my testimony. 98 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,831 He asked for memos he wrote directing me to open Swiss accounts 99 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,911 for those Justice Department lawyers. 100 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,073 - Did you give them to him? - No. I said I'd already destroyed them. 101 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,151 Where are they? 102 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,078 - He knows. - Knows what? 103 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,038 - That we've been talking. - That's impossible. 104 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,554 I'm telling you, Charles knows. 105 00:09:45,560 --> 00:09:50,714 - What makes you think that? - I don't know. Just a feeling, an instinct. 106 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,998 Nothing he said, nothing he did. Just the way he looked at me. 107 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,834 Senator Paxton and I are the only ones who know about you. 108 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,913 How can you be so sure? He got to Sarah Hunt before you could talk to her. 109 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,149 Now she's dead. 110 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:08,313 Franklin, if Estep knew, if he suspected you were gonna testify against him, 111 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:10,630 you wouldn't be here. 112 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,469 Now, I've rented a house outside of Washington for you. 113 00:10:15,560 --> 00:10:18,358 One of my aides will be with you every minute. 114 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,829 - Are you sure he can't get to me? - I'm positive. 115 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,797 All right. 116 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:26,156 I've gone this far. I might as well see it through. 117 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,276 (sighs) 118 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:52,040 All right, gentlemen. All right, gentlemen. I think we have enough pictures. 119 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,031 Let's get on with it. 120 00:10:57,560 --> 00:10:59,835 I swear the information I'm about to give 121 00:10:59,920 --> 00:11:03,117 is the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God. 122 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,509 - State your name, please. - Arthur Raymond. 123 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:07,795 Mr Raymond, where are you employed? 124 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,077 I'm vice president of Tricorp International. 125 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:17,598 Do you know a Justice Department prosecutor by the name of Bruce Can'ter? 126 00:11:17,680 --> 00:11:21,639 - Not to my knowledge. - Do you know a John Franklin? 127 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,597 He's also an employee of Tricorp. 128 00:11:23,680 --> 00:11:27,389 On June 15 last year, did John Franklin give you $5,000 129 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,074 to open a Swiss bank account for Bruce Can'ter? 130 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,630 - Not to my knowledge. - Mr Raymond... 131 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:39,113 I have here copies of plane tickets in your name for a June 15 flight to Zurich. 132 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:43,113 - I took a vacation in Switzerland. - (Paxton) Let me warn the witness. 133 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,317 Failure to answer this committee's questions truthfully 134 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,470 could result in a contempt citation. 135 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:49,959 I am aware of that. 136 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:54,079 Then you deny setting up a Swiss bank account for Bruce Can'ter 137 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,720 or any other member of the Justice Department? 138 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:58,836 I do. 139 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,833 All right. He's on the record. We'll nail him after Franklin testifies. 140 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,276 Mr Raymond, before you joined Charles Estep's company, 141 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:09,033 where were you employed? 142 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,556 - I was in the government. - Doing what? 143 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:15,911 (crowd mutters) 144 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:21,198 - I was in the Immigration Department. - Are you familiar with Albert Dietrich? 145 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,317 Is this another one of those Justice Department lawyers? 146 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:28,837 - We're about to find out, Senator. - No, I am not familiar with that name. 147 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,718 What about Claire Dietrich? That ring a bell? 148 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:32,994 - No. - Mr Chairman! 149 00:12:33,080 --> 00:12:37,471 In 1949, Claire Dietrich entered this country under the Displaced Persons Act. 150 00:12:37,560 --> 00:12:41,792 - Point of information?! - You were the officer who heard the case. 151 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,633 What on earth has that got to do with corruption...?! 152 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,756 I'm pursuing a line of questioning. 153 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,469 It sounds more like you're tripping down the Yellow Brick Road! 154 00:12:50,560 --> 00:12:53,279 Could we confine our remarks to the issues at hand? 155 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,158 Isn't it enough he slings mud at the Justice Department... 156 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,437 - Will you allow me to question him?! - ...without a shred of proof? 157 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,795 And now to waste our time on frivolity! 158 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:05,236 - I'm warning you! - This committee will recess for lunch. 159 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,196 Sergeant at arms, clear the room. 160 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,834 Now, listen, you two. I don't want to see that sort of display again. 161 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,718 You're doing all you can to sandbag these hearings. 162 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,236 You don't need any help from me. You're doing great all by yourself. 163 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,914 - Cut it out, dammit! - Now, look, Ben. 164 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:38,993 You lock up the evidence from half of the committee, we follow you like sheep, 165 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:44,029 but I have been here all morning and have yet to see or hear one piece of evidence. 166 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,078 If you'd shut your mouth long enough to let me finish... 167 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:51,711 - Don't you tell me how to behave myself! - I'm not telling you! Estep is! 168 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:55,679 Every time you fall on your face with a witness, you harp about me and Estep. 169 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,115 Well, I am sick of it. Yes, I'm sick of it! 170 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,997 Dillon! Dillon! 171 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,310 Take it easy, Dillon. Rudy, calm down. 172 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:07,155 - Then resign, Dillon. I'm not letting up. - You can't run me off this committee. 173 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,117 No? 174 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,430 - No way. - Watch me. 175 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:12,589 Rudy. 176 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:16,758 Rudy! 177 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,349 What was that all about? Who's this Dietrich? 178 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,319 - You wanted a statement, you've got it. - All right, here. 179 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:34,672 Corruption not only exists in the Justice Department, it reaches into the Senate. 180 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:39,595 For five years, the senator from Oklahoma has been on Charles Estep's payroll. 181 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:40,749 (all gasp) 182 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,719 Dillors loyalty, not to mention his motives, is obviously in question 183 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:48,315 and, as far as I'm concerned, he cannot be sufficiently objective 184 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,358 to serve on a committee investigating his employer. 185 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:57,037 So in the interests of an unbiased hearing into the activities of Charles Estep, 186 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:01,432 I am urging the senator to remove himself from this committee. 187 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:03,511 Thank you very much. 188 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,315 Who said senators were dull? 189 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,630 - Kate. - I'd love to. 190 00:15:14,720 --> 00:15:17,518 - What? - Let you buy me lunch. 191 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:20,831 - I don't have time, much as I'd like to. - You've gotta eat. 192 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:25,118 I could hear your stomach rumbling. Definitely not good for your image. 193 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,510 Besides, you're taking me to my favourite restaurant. 194 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,991 - Well... all right. Half an hour, maybe. - That's better. 195 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,673 (Rudy) Oh, whoa, that's enough. 196 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,196 - How do you like it? - It's a little draughty. 197 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:51,034 Well, there's one like it in every city if you know where to look. 198 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,112 - I thought you were going to Colorado. - I was. 199 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,636 - Somebody hijack your plane? - No. I'd just never been to Washington. 200 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,950 Ah, my favourite table. 201 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,231 Thought I'd come here and see the junior senator from New York in action. 202 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,153 - How am I doing, Coach? - Looking good. 203 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:15,952 I felt good until Dillon started his filibuster. 204 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,150 Kate... 205 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:27,196 why did you come... really? 206 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,715 - Impulse. - What kind? 207 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:36,917 I never stop to question my impulses. I just follow them. 208 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,195 Well, I'm glad. 209 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,314 Would it be bad form for me to ask where Maggie is? 210 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,151 - She's in New York. - Oh. 211 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,991 Well, let's go. 212 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,230 Time to get the bad guys. 213 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:08,069 Did I say something wrong? 214 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:20,356 That's the last thing Tom said to me... before he died. 215 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,517 Yeah. 216 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:36,353 Corruption not only exists in the Justice Department, it reaches into the Senate. 217 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,795 - For five years... - (phone buzzes) 218 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,914 What is it? 219 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,150 All right, send her in. 220 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,994 (TV)... as far as I'm concerned, he cannot be sufficiently objective 221 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,789 to serve on a committee investigating his employer. 222 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,632 Hi. 223 00:17:58,120 --> 00:18:01,271 I hope I'm not interrupting anything. 224 00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:04,636 No. I was just catching up on some news. 225 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,551 Sit down. 226 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:08,631 Thanks. 227 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,877 - How is everything? - Probably a lot worse than I think. 228 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,834 - How's everything with you? - Great. 229 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,353 Terrific. 230 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,559 You look lousy, Diane. 231 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,473 You always knew just the right thing to say to a girl. 232 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,791 Well, you never responded to the really good lines I threw out, 233 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,838 so I figured I'd try a little honesty. 234 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,990 What's the matter? 235 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,669 It's... everything. 236 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,319 Everything fell apart with my mother. 237 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,271 She tried to ship me off to boarding school. 238 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,191 You don't like fresh air, hot meals, and neat friends? 239 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,431 - Don't make fun of me. - I'm sorry. 240 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,592 I'm not making fun. I've been there. 241 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,911 - What do you want from me? Money? - Wes. 242 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,958 - What? - I've been trying to find Wes. 243 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,031 Why? 244 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:23,394 Because I wanna see him. I just don't know where to start or who to ask. 245 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,952 Why come to me? Wes and I got a jump on World War III, remember? 246 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:34,068 - I'm the last man he'd send a postcard to. - But you know people who can find out. 247 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,918 Diane... 248 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:45,318 - Wes has got his own problems. - Billy, I had something special with Wes. 249 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,159 And I just wanna find out if he felt the same way, too. 250 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,869 If not, if he says no, I'll leave him alone, I swear I will. 251 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,508 Will you help me? Will you ask some people? 252 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,751 Billy, I don't have anybody else but him. 253 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,229 Please help me. 254 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,114 - He's in Vegas. - What? 255 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,355 Wes is in Las Vegas. 256 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,478 Afternoon, sir. 257 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,596 (man) Jordache! Jordache! 258 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,319 - Eddie, you got something? - Yeah. 259 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,029 - What's that? - The 500 you gave me. I'm giving it back. 260 00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:43,873 - Why? - That guy that you wanted me to find... 261 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,872 - Falconetti. - Well, he don't exist. 262 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,997 - What the hell are you talking about? - Take the five bills. 263 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,959 - I don't want them. I want Falconetti. - Forget about him. I have. 264 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,592 Listen to me, you creep! 265 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,478 Why are you complaining? I didn't even take off expenses. 266 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,599 - What turned you off making 500 bucks? - He's too well-connected, man. 267 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,117 You go after him, it's like shaving with a broken bottle - you end up bleeding. 268 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,873 Yeah? Who's he connected to? 269 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,750 I don't remember names. Pain... that's what I remember. 270 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,633 We made a deal. Here's my end. 271 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,030 - Now, you keep yours. - Don't even try to get in touch with me. 272 00:21:26,120 --> 00:21:29,396 Believe it or not, I got a wife and kids. 273 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,156 - Who knows you're in Vegas? - Just you and Mr Estep. 274 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,279 - No one else? - I didn't take out ads when I left Hoboken. 275 00:21:54,360 --> 00:21:57,955 There's some blond kid asking questions about you. 276 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,237 - You're kidding? - Any idea who he is? 277 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,709 - Nope. - Falconetti, if you're lying to me... 278 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,155 Hey! 279 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,232 It's not Falconetti, remember? 280 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,710 It's Fallon. Bill Fallon. 281 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:19,188 I'll talk to you like you've got something besides toilet paper between your ears. 282 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,875 There's a murder warrant on you - that schvartze you iced in Hoboken. 283 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:23,949 Wasrt me. 284 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,157 That's why I've got the job of putting a blanket over you. 285 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,518 That's why you're guarding an empty suite, so nobody can see you. Capeesh? 286 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,512 Yeah, capeesh. Capeesh, capeesh! 287 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,830 Now, we're gonna start from the top. 288 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:41,118 Who's the blond kid and why is he so hot to find you? 289 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,034 Oh, come on. Look, if I knew who the kid was, I would tell you. 290 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,155 Give me your gun. 291 00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,631 - (chuckles) - Gimme. 292 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,713 No. No, I don't think you would tell me. 293 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,078 I think you're certifiable. 294 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,515 - I'm what? - Nuts. Cuckoo. Bughouse. 295 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,511 Now, we're gonna play truth or consequences. Who's the blond kid? 296 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:30,871 Mr Estep is not going to like it if there is a bullet in that chamber. 297 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,873 Mr Estep isn't gonna know anything about it. 298 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,714 You're just gonna disappear and I ain't gonna know where you went. 299 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,270 Now... who's the blond kid? 300 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,040 Gee, I guess you really don't know. 301 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,874 As soon as you finish your shift, go back to your room... 302 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,951 and stay there. 303 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,394 (Rudy) And you founded Tricorp International nine years ago, Mr Estep? 304 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,472 - Yes. - What was the initial capitalisation? 305 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,676 Approximately six million dollars. 306 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,116 - Where did the money come from? - Various sources. 307 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,158 According to the notice you filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, 308 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,471 no one took stock in your company as collateral against a loan. 309 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:01,754 That is correct. 310 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:06,709 Then, apparently, somebody just gave you six million dollars to start Tricorp. 311 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,189 A great many people believed in me, Senator. 312 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,716 - Was one of them Albert Dietrich? - I'm not familiar with that name. 313 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,509 - He's your wife's father, isn't he? - No, her father was Ernest West. 314 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,637 Your wife entered the USA under the name of Claire Dietrich. 315 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,349 No, my wife was born in Baltimore, Maryland, under the name Claire West. 316 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:28,275 - Chairman, a point of personal privilege. - The chair recognises the senator. 317 00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:29,554 Thank you. 318 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,713 Mr Chairman, a short while ago, 319 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:38,954 my colleague from New York issued a vicious, unfounded attack against me. 320 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,634 And it is my duty to respond to that attack. 321 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,917 - Now, Senator? - Right now, Senator. 322 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,552 The esteemed junior senator from New York 323 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:56,273 recklessly has charged that I am nothing but a corrupt pawn of Charles Estep. 324 00:25:56,360 --> 00:26:00,797 And to that slanderous accusation, I wish to state publicly 325 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,872 that until he walked into this room, this day, 326 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,316 I never before in all my life laid eyes on Charles Estep, 327 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,029 and that should put the lie to rest forever. 328 00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:16,830 But I want to add that, occasionally, I give legal advice to various companies, 329 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,117 as do many of my fellow senators. 330 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,988 One of those companies, it happens, is owned by Charles Estep. 331 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,072 Conflict of interest? Hardly. 332 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:33,508 Because my main function is to prevent companies from violating any regulation. 333 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:38,958 In a very real sense, I am working for the people of this country, not Charles Estep. 334 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,679 - Ben. - You had your say in the hall. 335 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,993 On the other hand, my esteemed colleague and accuser 336 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,073 until very recently was the owner of an electronics company. 337 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,516 Which company depended mainly, if not entirely, 338 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,149 for its existence on US Government contracts. 339 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:03,268 I would be the last to suggest that when a defence appropriation bill came up, 340 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:09,913 that the senator saw dollar signs like visions of sugar plums dance in his eyes, 341 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,436 but others might not be so kind. 342 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,559 They might remind the senator of people who live in glass houses. 343 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:22,998 I'll be content to say the senator's house has a number of broken windowpanes. 344 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,799 And I thank you, Mr Chairman. 345 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:34,199 - The chair apologises for the interruption. - I found it rather educational. 346 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,279 I'm sure you did. 347 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,949 Sarah Hunt was your executive secretary, was she not? 348 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,075 She was. 349 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,472 In that capacity, would you say she had access to your most confidential files? 350 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,152 No, I would not. 351 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:58,109 In addition to being her employer, did you have another relationship with Miss Hunt? 352 00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,269 I did not. 353 00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:03,069 Can you explain how she knew your wife's father was Albert Dietrich? 354 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,711 Miss Hunt spent the last months of her life being treated for a mental disorder. 355 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:12,430 Can you tell me how she would know that Tricorp was built on "blood and bodies"? 356 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:17,719 As I just pointed out, Sarah Hunt was emotionally unstable, so I discharged her. 357 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:23,193 You didn't discharge her cos she could expose your bribery of prosecutors? 358 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,478 Because she was vindictive over the fact you tired of her as your mistress? 359 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:28,629 That is a lie! 360 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,599 Mr Estep, are you denying that you and Sarah Hunt had a sexual relationship 361 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,796 that lasted almost until the day she died? 362 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,792 Yes, I am! 363 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,433 In Mrs Hunt's deposition, she states that on more than one occasion 364 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,034 you were a guest in her daughter's apartment - 365 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,998 an apartment leased in Sarah's name, but paid for by you. 366 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,073 Would that explain how Miss Hunt could have special interest and knowledge 367 00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,913 not normally in the realm of a secretary? 368 00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,837 (coughs) 369 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,110 - I respectfully decline to answer that. - On what grounds? 370 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,510 My attorney informs me it's not proper subject for the hearings. 371 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,515 The chair will decide what is proper. You will answer the question as put forth. 372 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,760 She had no personal intimate knowledge. 373 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,193 Mr Estep... 374 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,751 are you denying she wasrt privy to information only lovers would exchange? 375 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,755 How many ways does the senator plan to ask that? The witness has responded. 376 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,398 For the record, 377 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:39,076 did you direct John Franklin to pay certain Justice Department prosecutors 378 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:44,678 various sums of money to drop investigations against your companies? 379 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,194 - I did not. - Thank you, Mr Estep. 380 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,998 Dismissed. 381 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,477 (man) Did you have any idea your husband was having an affair? 382 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,596 (man #2) Why did you break it off with Hunt? 383 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,470 - (woman) Do you think this...? - No comment. I have no comment! 384 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,388 How long did it go on? 385 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,918 I'm sorry you had to hear about it that way. 386 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,351 I was all set to take the plane to Rome. 387 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,069 But I didn't wanna run out on you because I didn't wanna see you hurt! 388 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,958 It wasrt the way Jordache made it sound. 389 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,989 All those business trips. They were too boring and too hectic for me to go on. 390 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,640 Because you were with her. 391 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,632 Because you wanted to spend your time with her! 392 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,554 - Claire, it isn't what you think. - I had that woman in my house. 393 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,359 The two of you were laughing at your secret. 394 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:50,589 No! 395 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,314 Now, we... we... we were... 396 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,233 we were more friends than we were ever... 397 00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,313 What's the matter, Charles? Can't you say the word? The word is "lovers"! 398 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,870 - Claire, you're overreacting. - You told her about my father. 399 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,236 What else did you tell her? That I was lousy in bed? 400 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,073 Is that the excuse you gave her for having the affair?! 401 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,038 Claire, you're the only woman I have ever cared for. 402 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,636 I never cared for her or for any other woman the way I care for you. 403 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,157 Look, if you would just allow yourself to believe that, 404 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:28,075 then you'd understand that... Sarah Hunt meant nothing to me at all. 405 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,751 Nothing. 406 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,071 She was a... a release, that's all. 407 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,636 For nine years?! 408 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,472 You're the one I cared for. 409 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,074 And you're the one I need. 410 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,998 And you're the one I love. 411 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,872 Tell me, Charles... 412 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,351 when you grow tired of me, are you going to have me put in a mental hospital, too? 413 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:09,759 Claire... 414 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,753 We'll talk later. Get prepared for the hearing. 415 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,910 Oh... 416 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,675 - I'm prepared, Charles. - What are you gonna say? 417 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,757 (dials phone) 418 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,878 Could you come up here right away? 419 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,748 I want you to make sure that Claire doesn't go anywhere... 420 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,638 or talk to anyone before she testifies. 421 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,472 I'm sorry, Drew, I've made all the comments on Senator Dillon I'm going to. 422 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,552 I told him you were on the phone, Senator, but... 423 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,631 It's all right, Ramona. 424 00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,798 No comment, Drew, and you can quote me. 425 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,633 You wanna come after me, fine. I'd love to slug it out with you. 426 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:36,077 - But my wife has no place in this. - I think she has, Mr Estep. 427 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,718 Come on, Senator. 428 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,873 You wanna grind me into pieces because your electronics plant went under. 429 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:47,273 You know there's no way to do it legally, so you're using the hearings to get at me. 430 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,750 Unfortunately, Dillon is turning them into a three-ring circus 431 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,912 and you're coming off like one of the clowns. 432 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,358 - Then why aren't you laughing? - You haven't proved one damn thing. 433 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:04,230 You know something? I think you knew you couldn't before you started this farce. 434 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,830 You bribed those Justice lawyers. 435 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,673 You had that girl's father murdered. 436 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,351 You ordered Sarah Hunt's death. 437 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,432 Not one witness has corroborated those charges. 438 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:26,355 Not a single piece of evidence has been introduced to substantiate them. 439 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,000 We still have a long way to go yet. 440 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,516 Stick around. It might prove educational. 441 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,636 Leave my wife alone. 442 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,514 I will, if you tell me about Albert Dietrich. 443 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:42,355 Albert Dietrich is a name that a deranged woman whispered in your ear. 444 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,228 Sarah Hunt was terrified... but she wasrt crazy. 445 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,437 The hearings are about corruption in the Justice Department. 446 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,239 No, they're about corruption in government. 447 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,993 I think that corruption started a long time ago, 448 00:34:55,080 --> 00:35:01,349 when an immigration officer named Arthur Raymond let your wife into this country. 449 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,876 Sarah Hunt said Tricorp was built on blood and bodies. 450 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:11,035 I am going to dig every one of them up... starting with Albert Dietrich. 451 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,669 Your wife's on next, in executive session. 452 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,511 I'm afraid you're not invited. 453 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:40,390 - (Paxton) State your name for the record. - Claire Estep. 454 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:45,349 (Rudy) Mrs Estep, there seems to be some confusion about your background. 455 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,513 - Would you mind clarifying it for us? - I'd be happy to. 456 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,992 - Where were you born? - Baltimore, Maryland. 457 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,629 - And who were your parents? - Ernest and Margaret West. 458 00:35:57,720 --> 00:36:00,473 - Were you ever known by another name? - No. 459 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:05,031 Mrs Estep, I have been searching for some record of your parents' existence 460 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,237 prior to their death in 1949. 461 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,356 There isn't any. 462 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,194 - That's ridiculous. - I agree. 463 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,556 Could you tell the committee a little about them? 464 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,150 My father was an investment banker. 465 00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:25,549 Where was he employed? 466 00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,675 I really don't remember. 467 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,389 I've checked every financial institution in Baltimore. 468 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,836 None of them ever employed an Ernest West. 469 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,559 Well, I don't know how to answer that. 470 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,916 I do know what my father did for a living. 471 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,788 - Where did you go to school? - The Lake School for Girls. 472 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,553 Before that, public schools. 473 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:54,316 I have here a copy of a letter from the dean of admissions of the Lake School. 474 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,437 In it, she states that there's no record of a Claire West ever attending that school. 475 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,638 - I should know what school I went to. - Yes, you should. 476 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,119 Do you know a man named Arthur Raymond? 477 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,191 He works for my husband. 478 00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,319 Did you have occasion to meet him before he went to work for your husband? 479 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,753 No. 480 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,400 Are you familiar with the name Claire Dietrich? 481 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,198 No. 482 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:26,559 Claire Dietrich was 13 years old when she entered this country in 1949. 483 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,473 How old were you in 1949, Mrs Estep? 484 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,113 13. 485 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,432 Speak into the microphone, please. We're having difficulty hearing your replies. 486 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,511 13! 487 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,792 Mrs Estep, Arthur Raymond was the immigration officer 488 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,519 who heard Claire Dietrich's case. 489 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:51,230 I ask you again - did you have occasion to meet Arthur Raymond 490 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,198 before he went to work for your husband? 491 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,829 I have already said no. 492 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,070 Doesrt it strike you as coincidence 493 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,948 that after Arthur Raymond allowed Claire Dietrich into this country, 494 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,669 he left the Immigration Office and went to work for your husband? 495 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,389 Mr Chairman, I thank the good Lord that I'm not the witness. 496 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,109 I swear I wouldn't know how to answer that question. 497 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,919 - Your real name is Claire Dietrich, isn't it? - No. 498 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,558 Your father is Albert Dietrich. 499 00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,712 Mr and Mrs West were invented for an acceptable background. 500 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:23,789 No! 501 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,749 Why did your husband have to bribe Raymond to allow you into this country? 502 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,912 Why did he have to invent a set of parents for you? 503 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,639 Why has he gone to these elaborate measures 504 00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:38,599 to remove all trace of Albert Dietrich's existence? 505 00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,036 I have never heard of Albert Dietrich! 506 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,953 Mr Chairman, I am as fond of fishing as the next man, 507 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:49,830 but I think the senator has cast his line into empty waters. 508 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,629 Unless there's a nibble soon, Senator, I suggest you move on. 509 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,715 One final question, Mrs Estep. 510 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,830 What is in your past 511 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,038 that was won'th six million dollars to keep hidden? 512 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:17,033 Request the witness keep herself available for further questioning. 513 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,588 Witness will comply. 514 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,709 - How's it going? - By the day, by the week, by the month. 515 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,075 I didn't come looking for a place to flop. 516 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,277 - Then what are you doing in a hotel? - I'm looking for a friend. 517 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,273 Uh, young blond-haired fella about 18 years old. Nice, clean-cut. 518 00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,920 - Yeah, you just missed him. - Oh, really? 519 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,560 Hey, he's looking for you, too. 520 00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,200 - Is that right? - Yeah. 521 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:32,434 - Hey, you really got a glass eye? - He's always kidding. 522 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,638 Uh, did he tell you where he went? We've been trying to connect for a few days now. 523 00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:40,076 Yeah. He gave me his phone number in case I seen you. 524 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,435 Well, he's finally using his head. 525 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:47,230 You know, you two guys don't look like you'd be friends. 526 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,552 Well, we're not really. You see, I used to be shipmates with his father. 527 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:56,236 Now I wanna do for the kid what I did for the old man. 528 00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:13,234 (gavel bangs) 529 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,073 I do solemnly swear the information I'm about to give 530 00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,472 is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God. 531 00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,155 - State your name for the record. - John Franklin. 532 00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:31,879 Mr Franklin, where are you employed? 533 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,997 I'm executive vice president of Tricorp International. 534 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,595 - What was your position before that? - Chief financial officer. 535 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,274 In your capacity as chief financial officer, 536 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:46,388 were you given any extraordinary duties to perform for Charles Estep? 537 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,309 Could you be more specific, Senator? 538 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,356 Certainly. 539 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,274 Did Charles Estep direct you to open Swiss bank accounts 540 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,397 for various Justice Department prosecutors? 541 00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,873 No, he never did. 542 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,878 May I remind the witness he is under oath? 543 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,589 That's why I answered as I did, Senator. 544 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,114 Mr Franklin, 545 00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:26,194 I have here a series of cheques made out to a Swiss bank and signed by you. 546 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,395 I don't deny that. 547 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:34,952 Well then, would you tell this committee whom you opened these accounts for? 548 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,354 - For myself. - Jordache, what the hell is going on?! 549 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:45,958 The next logical question, I presume, is why did you open those Swiss accounts? 550 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,114 - Because I was siphoning Tricorp funds. - (Dillon) I see. 551 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,034 But how did Senator Jordache get his nose into that kind of business? 552 00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:01,433 Well, somehow my lapse of corporate integrity was brought to his attention. 553 00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,830 He suggested that, in lieu of criminal action, 554 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,948 I testify that those accounts were opened for certain Justice Department lawyers 555 00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,031 at the direction of Charles Estep. 556 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:13,599 (crowd mutters) 557 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,592 And you agreed to go along with that scheme? 558 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,834 I was frightened. I'm not a young man, Senator. 559 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,196 The thought of even a few years in prison did not appeal to me. 560 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,429 Mr Franklin, 561 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:33,548 we have memos signed by Charles Estep directing you to open those accounts. 562 00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,790 They're forgeries. 563 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:40,635 Senator Jordache instructed me to come up with some tangible evidence 564 00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:44,395 linking Mr Estep with bribery in the Justice Department. 565 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,038 That's a lie! 566 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,635 Handwriting analysis will show those signatures are not Mr Estep's. 567 00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:52,154 - He got to you, didn't he? - Who? 568 00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:55,516 - Estep! - No, Senator. My conscience got to me. 569 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,160 I move to recess these hearings until tomorrow. 570 00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:02,677 No, Mr Chairman! Senator Jordache initiated this line of questioning! 571 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:07,231 Just because it bites him, there's no reason to close these hearings now. 572 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,357 I have been led down the garden path by this witness. 573 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,228 Either he's been feeding me false information from the start 574 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,677 or else Charles Estep bought him off with money or threats or both! 575 00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,320 Did Charles Estep threaten you, Mr Franklin? 576 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:27,430 No. On the contrary, he kindly offered not to press charges if I told the truth here. 577 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,638 And there goes another windowpane shattered, Senator. 578 00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:35,633 I, for one, need time to digest all this. 579 00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:38,473 I second the motion that we recess until tomorrow. 580 00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,278 So ordered! 581 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,351 Ten o'clock, my office. 582 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,629 Rudy, I'II, uh... I'll wait for you outside. 583 00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,668 I wish I could say that we were even now, Senator. 584 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,149 But you've just started to bleed. 51660

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