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Last on "Rich Man, Poor Man - Book ll":
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- Dillors called a subcommittee meeting.
- Why wasrt I informed?
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Rumour has it he's out to quash the Estep
investigation and doesn't want you there.
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Now, I demand, right now,
that you produce evidence
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that Tricorp is guilty of subverting
public servants and due process.
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- I can't, Senator. It would cost too much.
- Cost?
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Now he's worried about cost.
How much?
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Another life.
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Charles, Jordache knows
that I'm on your payroll.
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- He'll tell the world unless I resign.
- You're staying.
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Are you talking to some janitor
or to a United States senator?!
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If you're on my payroll,
no difference.
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Why did Falconetti call me?
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Forget Falconetti.
Where's Claire?
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Raymond, that was a Senate subpoena.
A Senate subpoena.
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If we don't find her, they will.
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- It'll cost you.
- How much?
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Well, I don't look up G
in the phone book for under 500.
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- 500?
- What's the name?
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Falconetti. Anthony Falconetti.
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- I'm not a burglar.
- You're whatever you have to be.
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The depositions, when they're
not with Rudy, they're locked up.
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I can't even find out where.
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How about that problem you were having?
Work itself out?
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I think it's about to.
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- John Franklin.
- Thank you.
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Then I want those Justice Department
prosecutors called, one by one.
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- They'll deny everything.
- Oh, I want them to.
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We'll have two shots at them -
before they know what we have
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and after Franklin testifies
they accepted bribes from Charles Estep.
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- You're learning fast, Senator.
- I had a pretty fair teacher, Senator.
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- How's your stomach?
- Somewhere around my Adam's apple.
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Opening-night jitters.
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This is a big moment for you, Rudy.
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The right kind of investigation
can make a political career.
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Look what Alger Hiss did
for Mr Nixon.
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I'm not interested in
emulating Mr Nixon.
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All I wanna do is give Charles Estep
a taste of prison food.
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Ben...
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Have you decided about the
distinguished senator from Oklahoma?
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Dillors a bona fide member
of the committee.
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He's also a $100,000-a-year consultant
to one of Estep's industries.
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There's no law against any elected public
official working for a private company.
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Oh, come off it, Ben.
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You sound like
a press release from Dillors office.
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That elected official is sitting on
the committee investigating his employer.
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Do you think we might have
a slight conflict of interests?
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If you've got the proof, Rudy,
all Dillon can do is huff and puff.
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If he does any more than that,
I'm gonna blow the whistle on him.
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Rudy, the Senate is
the most exclusive club in the world.
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One member does not
publicly embarrass another.
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Embarrass him with what?!
Facts?!
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A word of advice from a man who's hung
his hat here a lot longer than you have -
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don't make an issue
out of Dillors connection with Estep.
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Afraid I'll be drummed out of the club?
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Gets awfully cold outside, Rudy.
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A man could freeze to death
before his term was over.
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(buzzer)
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- Hello, Senator.
- Raymond.
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- Morning, Charles.
- Morning.
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I got the order of witnesses.
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- Raymond first, you, then your wife.
- Claire's still missing.
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I've got a doctor standing by
to testify she's in a Dallas hospital
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recuperating from, um...
What did we decide?
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- Hepatitis.
- Hepatitis.
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No. If Jordache wants her bad enough,
he'll fly the committee to that hospital.
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It's gonna be embarrassing
to find an empty bed.
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One step at a time. Right now, I wanna
know what Jordache is gonna hit us with.
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Those Justice Department payoffs for one.
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- What else?
- Let's don't blow that by so fast, Charles.
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Can he prove
that you bribed those fellas?
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- That is not my main concern.
- Franklin can prove it.
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And he'll be taken care off.
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I need to know
what other areas Jordache is going into.
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Oh, well, uh...
I'm afraid that's still a mystery, Charles.
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Senator, I don't pay you $100,000 a year
for that kind of answer.
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I swear Jordache has that evidence in his
shorts. Nobody's seen it except Paxton.
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Look, he didn't subpoena Claire to talk
about bribery in the Justice Department.
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He knows her father's Albert Dietrich. He's
probably got the whole thing put together.
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- Who's Albert Dietrich?
- You wouldn't wanna know, Senator.
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Charles, I have grave misgivings
about this whole thing.
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I am a sitting duck up there
on that committee.
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If Jordache brings out our association,
I could be looking for a job next election.
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And if certain information gets out, I could
spend the better part of my life in prison,
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if I don't get lynched first.
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I'll tell you
what you're gonna have to do.
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You're gonna have to oil up
that famous Oklahoma drawl
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and every time Jordache gets
even that far away from an open nerve,
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well, you're gonna have to get yourself
to talking like your life depended on it.
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Right?
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(siren)
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- How was your flight?
- How do you think it was?
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2,000 miles with that thing over my face.
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I didn't know if I'd die of suffocation
or go crazy with claustrophobia.
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- You wanted these precautions.
- I know, I know, I know.
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After two days with Charles in Dallas,
I didn't wanna take chances.
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- What did he want?
- Supposedly to go over my testimony.
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He asked for memos he wrote
directing me to open Swiss accounts
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for those Justice Department lawyers.
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- Did you give them to him?
- No. I said I'd already destroyed them.
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Where are they?
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- He knows.
- Knows what?
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- That we've been talking.
- That's impossible.
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I'm telling you, Charles knows.
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- What makes you think that?
- I don't know. Just a feeling, an instinct.
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Nothing he said, nothing he did.
Just the way he looked at me.
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Senator Paxton and I
are the only ones who know about you.
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How can you be so sure? He got to
Sarah Hunt before you could talk to her.
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Now she's dead.
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Franklin, if Estep knew, if he suspected
you were gonna testify against him,
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you wouldn't be here.
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Now, I've rented a house
outside of Washington for you.
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One of my aides
will be with you every minute.
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- Are you sure he can't get to me?
- I'm positive.
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All right.
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I've gone this far.
I might as well see it through.
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(sighs)
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All right, gentlemen. All right, gentlemen.
I think we have enough pictures.
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Let's get on with it.
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I swear the information
I'm about to give
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is the whole truth and nothing
but the truth, so help me God.
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- State your name, please.
- Arthur Raymond.
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Mr Raymond,
where are you employed?
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I'm vice president
of Tricorp International.
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Do you know a Justice Department
prosecutor by the name of Bruce Can'ter?
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- Not to my knowledge.
- Do you know a John Franklin?
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He's also an employee of Tricorp.
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On June 15 last year,
did John Franklin give you $5,000
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to open a Swiss bank account
for Bruce Can'ter?
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- Not to my knowledge.
- Mr Raymond...
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I have here copies of plane tickets
in your name for a June 15 flight to Zurich.
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- I took a vacation in Switzerland.
- (Paxton) Let me warn the witness.
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Failure to answer
this committee's questions truthfully
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could result in a contempt citation.
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I am aware of that.
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Then you deny setting up
a Swiss bank account for Bruce Can'ter
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or any other member
of the Justice Department?
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I do.
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All right. He's on the record.
We'll nail him after Franklin testifies.
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Mr Raymond, before you joined
Charles Estep's company,
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where were you employed?
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- I was in the government.
- Doing what?
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(crowd mutters)
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- I was in the Immigration Department.
- Are you familiar with Albert Dietrich?
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Is this another one of those
Justice Department lawyers?
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- We're about to find out, Senator.
- No, I am not familiar with that name.
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What about Claire Dietrich?
That ring a bell?
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- No.
- Mr Chairman!
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In 1949, Claire Dietrich entered this
country under the Displaced Persons Act.
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- Point of information?!
- You were the officer who heard the case.
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What on earth
has that got to do with corruption...?!
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I'm pursuing a line of questioning.
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It sounds more like you're
tripping down the Yellow Brick Road!
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Could we confine our remarks
to the issues at hand?
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Isn't it enough he slings mud
at the Justice Department...
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- Will you allow me to question him?!
- ...without a shred of proof?
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And now to waste our time on frivolity!
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- I'm warning you!
- This committee will recess for lunch.
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Sergeant at arms, clear the room.
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Now, listen, you two. I don't want to see
that sort of display again.
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You're doing all you can
to sandbag these hearings.
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You don't need any help from me.
You're doing great all by yourself.
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- Cut it out, dammit!
- Now, look, Ben.
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You lock up the evidence from half of
the committee, we follow you like sheep,
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but I have been here all morning and have
yet to see or hear one piece of evidence.
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If you'd shut your mouth long enough
to let me finish...
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- Don't you tell me how to behave myself!
- I'm not telling you! Estep is!
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Every time you fall on your face with
a witness, you harp about me and Estep.
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Well, I am sick of it.
Yes, I'm sick of it!
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Dillon! Dillon!
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Take it easy, Dillon.
Rudy, calm down.
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- Then resign, Dillon. I'm not letting up.
- You can't run me off this committee.
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No?
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- No way.
- Watch me.
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Rudy.
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Rudy!
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What was that all about?
Who's this Dietrich?
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- You wanted a statement, you've got it.
- All right, here.
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Corruption not only exists in the Justice
Department, it reaches into the Senate.
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For five years, the senator from Oklahoma
has been on Charles Estep's payroll.
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(all gasp)
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Dillors loyalty, not to mention
his motives, is obviously in question
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and, as far as I'm concerned,
he cannot be sufficiently objective
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to serve on a committee
investigating his employer.
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So in the interests of an unbiased hearing
into the activities of Charles Estep,
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I am urging the senator
to remove himself from this committee.
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Thank you very much.
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Who said senators were dull?
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- Kate.
- I'd love to.
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- What?
- Let you buy me lunch.
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- I don't have time, much as I'd like to.
- You've gotta eat.
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I could hear your stomach rumbling.
Definitely not good for your image.
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Besides, you're taking me
to my favourite restaurant.
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- Well... all right. Half an hour, maybe.
- That's better.
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(Rudy) Oh, whoa, that's enough.
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- How do you like it?
- It's a little draughty.
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Well, there's one like it
in every city if you know where to look.
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- I thought you were going to Colorado.
- I was.
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- Somebody hijack your plane?
- No. I'd just never been to Washington.
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Ah, my favourite table.
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Thought I'd come here and see the
junior senator from New York in action.
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- How am I doing, Coach?
- Looking good.
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I felt good
until Dillon started his filibuster.
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Kate...
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why did you come... really?
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- Impulse.
- What kind?
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I never stop to question my impulses.
I just follow them.
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Well, I'm glad.
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Would it be bad form
for me to ask where Maggie is?
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- She's in New York.
- Oh.
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Well, let's go.
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Time to get the bad guys.
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Did I say something wrong?
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That's the last thing Tom said to me...
before he died.
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Yeah.
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Corruption not only exists in the JusticeDepartment, it reaches into the Senate.
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- For five years...- (phone buzzes)
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What is it?
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All right, send her in.
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(TV)... as far as I'm concerned,he cannot be sufficiently objective
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to serve on a committeeinvestigating his employer.
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Hi.
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I hope I'm not interrupting anything.
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No. I was just catching up
on some news.
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Sit down.
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Thanks.
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- How is everything?
- Probably a lot worse than I think.
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- How's everything with you?
- Great.
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Terrific.
230
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You look lousy, Diane.
231
00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,473
You always knew
just the right thing to say to a girl.
232
00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,791
Well, you never responded
to the really good lines I threw out,
233
00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,838
so I figured I'd try a little honesty.
234
00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,990
What's the matter?
235
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It's... everything.
236
00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,319
Everything fell apart with my mother.
237
00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,271
She tried to ship me off
to boarding school.
238
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You don't like fresh air,
hot meals, and neat friends?
239
00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,431
- Don't make fun of me.
- I'm sorry.
240
00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,592
I'm not making fun.
I've been there.
241
00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,911
- What do you want from me? Money?
- Wes.
242
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,958
- What?
- I've been trying to find Wes.
243
00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,031
Why?
244
00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:23,394
Because I wanna see him. I just don't
know where to start or who to ask.
245
00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:28,952
Why come to me? Wes and I
got a jump on World War III, remember?
246
00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:34,068
- I'm the last man he'd send a postcard to.
- But you know people who can find out.
247
00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,918
Diane...
248
00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:45,318
- Wes has got his own problems.
- Billy, I had something special with Wes.
249
00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,159
And I just wanna find out
if he felt the same way, too.
250
00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,869
If not, if he says no,
I'll leave him alone, I swear I will.
251
00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,508
Will you help me?
Will you ask some people?
252
00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,751
Billy,
I don't have anybody else but him.
253
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,229
Please help me.
254
00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,114
- He's in Vegas.
- What?
255
00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,355
Wes is in Las Vegas.
256
00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:31,478
Afternoon, sir.
257
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,596
(man) Jordache! Jordache!
258
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,319
- Eddie, you got something?
- Yeah.
259
00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:41,029
- What's that?
- The 500 you gave me. I'm giving it back.
260
00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:43,873
- Why?
- That guy that you wanted me to find...
261
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,872
- Falconetti.
- Well, he don't exist.
262
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,997
- What the hell are you talking about?
- Take the five bills.
263
00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:53,959
- I don't want them. I want Falconetti.
- Forget about him. I have.
264
00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,592
Listen to me, you creep!
265
00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,478
Why are you complaining?
I didn't even take off expenses.
266
00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:03,599
- What turned you off making 500 bucks?
- He's too well-connected, man.
267
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:08,117
You go after him, it's like shaving with
a broken bottle - you end up bleeding.
268
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,873
Yeah?
Who's he connected to?
269
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,750
I don't remember names.
Pain... that's what I remember.
270
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,633
We made a deal.
Here's my end.
271
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,030
- Now, you keep yours.
- Don't even try to get in touch with me.
272
00:21:26,120 --> 00:21:29,396
Believe it or not,
I got a wife and kids.
273
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,156
- Who knows you're in Vegas?
- Just you and Mr Estep.
274
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:54,279
- No one else?
- I didn't take out ads when I left Hoboken.
275
00:21:54,360 --> 00:21:57,955
There's some blond kid
asking questions about you.
276
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,237
- You're kidding?
- Any idea who he is?
277
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,709
- Nope.
- Falconetti, if you're lying to me...
278
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,155
Hey!
279
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,232
It's not Falconetti, remember?
280
00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,710
It's Fallon. Bill Fallon.
281
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:19,188
I'll talk to you like you've got something
besides toilet paper between your ears.
282
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,875
There's a murder warrant on you -
that schvartze you iced in Hoboken.
283
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:23,949
Wasrt me.
284
00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,157
That's why I've got the job
of putting a blanket over you.
285
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:31,518
That's why you're guarding an empty
suite, so nobody can see you. Capeesh?
286
00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,512
Yeah, capeesh.
Capeesh, capeesh!
287
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,830
Now, we're gonna start from the top.
288
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:41,118
Who's the blond kid
and why is he so hot to find you?
289
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,034
Oh, come on. Look,
if I knew who the kid was, I would tell you.
290
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,155
Give me your gun.
291
00:22:57,640 --> 00:22:59,631
- (chuckles)
- Gimme.
292
00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:08,713
No.
No, I don't think you would tell me.
293
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,078
I think you're certifiable.
294
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,515
- I'm what?
- Nuts. Cuckoo. Bughouse.
295
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,511
Now, we're gonna play truth
or consequences. Who's the blond kid?
296
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:30,871
Mr Estep is not going to like it
if there is a bullet in that chamber.
297
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,873
Mr Estep
isn't gonna know anything about it.
298
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,714
You're just gonna disappear
and I ain't gonna know where you went.
299
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,270
Now... who's the blond kid?
300
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,040
Gee, I guess you really don't know.
301
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,874
As soon as you finish your shift,
go back to your room...
302
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,951
and stay there.
303
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,394
(Rudy) And you founded Tricorp
International nine years ago, Mr Estep?
304
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,472
- Yes.
- What was the initial capitalisation?
305
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,676
Approximately six million dollars.
306
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,116
- Where did the money come from?
- Various sources.
307
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:57,158
According to the notice you filed with
the Securities and Exchange Commission,
308
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,471
no one took stock in your company
as collateral against a loan.
309
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:01,754
That is correct.
310
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:06,709
Then, apparently, somebody just gave you
six million dollars to start Tricorp.
311
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,189
A great many people
believed in me, Senator.
312
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,716
- Was one of them Albert Dietrich?
- I'm not familiar with that name.
313
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,509
- He's your wife's father, isn't he?
- No, her father was Ernest West.
314
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,637
Your wife entered the USA
under the name of Claire Dietrich.
315
00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,349
No, my wife was born in Baltimore,
Maryland, under the name Claire West.
316
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:28,275
- Chairman, a point of personal privilege.
- The chair recognises the senator.
317
00:25:28,360 --> 00:25:29,554
Thank you.
318
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,713
Mr Chairman,
a short while ago,
319
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:38,954
my colleague from New York issued
a vicious, unfounded attack against me.
320
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,634
And it is my duty
to respond to that attack.
321
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:44,917
- Now, Senator?
- Right now, Senator.
322
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,552
The esteemed junior senator
from New York
323
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:56,273
recklessly has charged that I am nothing
but a corrupt pawn of Charles Estep.
324
00:25:56,360 --> 00:26:00,797
And to that slanderous accusation,
I wish to state publicly
325
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,872
that until he walked into this room,
this day,
326
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,316
I never before in all my life
laid eyes on Charles Estep,
327
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,029
and that should
put the lie to rest forever.
328
00:26:12,120 --> 00:26:16,830
But I want to add that, occasionally,
I give legal advice to various companies,
329
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,117
as do many of my fellow senators.
330
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,988
One of those companies, it happens,
is owned by Charles Estep.
331
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,072
Conflict of interest? Hardly.
332
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:33,508
Because my main function is to prevent
companies from violating any regulation.
333
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:38,958
In a very real sense, I am working for the
people of this country, not Charles Estep.
334
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,679
- Ben.
- You had your say in the hall.
335
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:46,993
On the other hand,
my esteemed colleague and accuser
336
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,073
until very recently was the owner
of an electronics company.
337
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,516
Which company depended mainly,
if not entirely,
338
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,149
for its existence
on US Government contracts.
339
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:03,268
I would be the last to suggest that when
a defence appropriation bill came up,
340
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:09,913
that the senator saw dollar signs like
visions of sugar plums dance in his eyes,
341
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,436
but others might not be so kind.
342
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,559
They might remind the senator
of people who live in glass houses.
343
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:22,998
I'll be content to say the senator's house
has a number of broken windowpanes.
344
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,799
And I thank you, Mr Chairman.
345
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:34,199
- The chair apologises for the interruption.
- I found it rather educational.
346
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,279
I'm sure you did.
347
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,949
Sarah Hunt was your executive secretary,
was she not?
348
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,075
She was.
349
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,472
In that capacity, would you say she had
access to your most confidential files?
350
00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:53,152
No, I would not.
351
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:58,109
In addition to being her employer, did you
have another relationship with Miss Hunt?
352
00:27:58,200 --> 00:27:59,269
I did not.
353
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:03,069
Can you explain how she knew
your wife's father was Albert Dietrich?
354
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,711
Miss Hunt spent the last months of her life
being treated for a mental disorder.
355
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:12,430
Can you tell me how she would know that
Tricorp was built on "blood and bodies"?
356
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:17,719
As I just pointed out, Sarah Hunt was
emotionally unstable, so I discharged her.
357
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:23,193
You didn't discharge her cos she could
expose your bribery of prosecutors?
358
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:27,478
Because she was vindictive over the fact
you tired of her as your mistress?
359
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:28,629
That is a lie!
360
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,599
Mr Estep, are you denying that you
and Sarah Hunt had a sexual relationship
361
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,796
that lasted almost until
the day she died?
362
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,792
Yes, I am!
363
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,433
In Mrs Hunt's deposition,
she states that on more than one occasion
364
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,034
you were a guest
in her daughter's apartment -
365
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,998
an apartment leased in Sarah's name,
but paid for by you.
366
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,073
Would that explain how Miss Hunt could
have special interest and knowledge
367
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,913
not normally in the realm
of a secretary?
368
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,837
(coughs)
369
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,110
- I respectfully decline to answer that.
- On what grounds?
370
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,510
My attorney informs me
it's not proper subject for the hearings.
371
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,515
The chair will decide what is proper.
You will answer the question as put forth.
372
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,760
She had no personal
intimate knowledge.
373
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,193
Mr Estep...
374
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,751
are you denying she wasrt privy to
information only lovers would exchange?
375
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:32,755
How many ways does the senator plan
to ask that? The witness has responded.
376
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,398
For the record,
377
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:39,076
did you direct John Franklin to pay
certain Justice Department prosecutors
378
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:44,678
various sums of money to drop
investigations against your companies?
379
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,194
- I did not.
- Thank you, Mr Estep.
380
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,998
Dismissed.
381
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,477
(man) Did you have any idea
your husband was having an affair?
382
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,596
(man #2)
Why did you break it off with Hunt?
383
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,470
- (woman) Do you think this...?
- No comment. I have no comment!
384
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,388
How long did it go on?
385
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,918
I'm sorry you had to
hear about it that way.
386
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,351
I was all set
to take the plane to Rome.
387
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,069
But I didn't wanna run out on you
because I didn't wanna see you hurt!
388
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,958
It wasrt the way Jordache made it sound.
389
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,989
All those business trips. They were
too boring and too hectic for me to go on.
390
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,640
Because you were with her.
391
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,632
Because you wanted
to spend your time with her!
392
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,554
- Claire, it isn't what you think.
- I had that woman in my house.
393
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,359
The two of you
were laughing at your secret.
394
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:50,589
No!
395
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,314
Now, we...
we... we were...
396
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,233
we were more friends
than we were ever...
397
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:01,313
What's the matter, Charles? Can't you
say the word? The word is "lovers"!
398
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,870
- Claire, you're overreacting.
- You told her about my father.
399
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:08,236
What else did you tell her?
That I was lousy in bed?
400
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,073
Is that the excuse you gave her
for having the affair?!
401
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,038
Claire, you're the only woman
I have ever cared for.
402
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:18,636
I never cared for her or for
any other woman the way I care for you.
403
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,157
Look, if you would just
allow yourself to believe that,
404
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:28,075
then you'd understand that...
Sarah Hunt meant nothing to me at all.
405
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,751
Nothing.
406
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,071
She was a...
a release, that's all.
407
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:38,636
For nine years?!
408
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,472
You're the one I cared for.
409
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,074
And you're the one I need.
410
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,998
And you're the one I love.
411
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,872
Tell me, Charles...
412
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:08,351
when you grow tired of me, are you going
to have me put in a mental hospital, too?
413
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:09,759
Claire...
414
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,753
We'll talk later.
Get prepared for the hearing.
415
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:16,910
Oh...
416
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,675
- I'm prepared, Charles.
- What are you gonna say?
417
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,757
(dials phone)
418
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,878
Could you come up here right away?
419
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,748
I want you to make sure
that Claire doesn't go anywhere...
420
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,638
or talk to anyone before she testifies.
421
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,472
I'm sorry, Drew, I've made all the
comments on Senator Dillon I'm going to.
422
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,552
I told him you were
on the phone, Senator, but...
423
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,631
It's all right, Ramona.
424
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,798
No comment, Drew,
and you can quote me.
425
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,633
You wanna come after me, fine.
I'd love to slug it out with you.
426
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:36,077
- But my wife has no place in this.
- I think she has, Mr Estep.
427
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:37,718
Come on, Senator.
428
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,873
You wanna grind me into pieces because
your electronics plant went under.
429
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:47,273
You know there's no way to do it legally,
so you're using the hearings to get at me.
430
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,750
Unfortunately, Dillon is turning them
into a three-ring circus
431
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,912
and you're coming off
like one of the clowns.
432
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,358
- Then why aren't you laughing?
- You haven't proved one damn thing.
433
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:04,230
You know something? I think you knew
you couldn't before you started this farce.
434
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,830
You bribed
those Justice lawyers.
435
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,673
You had that girl's father murdered.
436
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,351
You ordered Sarah Hunt's death.
437
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,432
Not one witness
has corroborated those charges.
438
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:26,355
Not a single piece of evidence
has been introduced to substantiate them.
439
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,000
We still have a long way to go yet.
440
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:32,516
Stick around.
It might prove educational.
441
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,636
Leave my wife alone.
442
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,514
I will, if you tell me
about Albert Dietrich.
443
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:42,355
Albert Dietrich is a name that
a deranged woman whispered in your ear.
444
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,228
Sarah Hunt was terrified...
but she wasrt crazy.
445
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,437
The hearings are about corruption
in the Justice Department.
446
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,239
No, they're about
corruption in government.
447
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,993
I think that corruption
started a long time ago,
448
00:34:55,080 --> 00:35:01,349
when an immigration officer named Arthur
Raymond let your wife into this country.
449
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,876
Sarah Hunt said Tricorp
was built on blood and bodies.
450
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:11,035
I am going to dig every one of them up...
starting with Albert Dietrich.
451
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:21,669
Your wife's on next,
in executive session.
452
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,511
I'm afraid you're not invited.
453
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:40,390
- (Paxton) State your name for the record.
- Claire Estep.
454
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:45,349
(Rudy) Mrs Estep, there seems to be
some confusion about your background.
455
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,513
- Would you mind clarifying it for us?
- I'd be happy to.
456
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,992
- Where were you born?
- Baltimore, Maryland.
457
00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,629
- And who were your parents?
- Ernest and Margaret West.
458
00:35:57,720 --> 00:36:00,473
- Were you ever known by another name?
- No.
459
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:05,031
Mrs Estep, I have been searching
for some record of your parents' existence
460
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:08,237
prior to their death in 1949.
461
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,356
There isn't any.
462
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,194
- That's ridiculous.
- I agree.
463
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,556
Could you tell the committee
a little about them?
464
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:23,150
My father was an investment banker.
465
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:25,549
Where was he employed?
466
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,675
I really don't remember.
467
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,389
I've checked every financial institution
in Baltimore.
468
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,836
None of them
ever employed an Ernest West.
469
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,559
Well, I don't know
how to answer that.
470
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,916
I do know what my father did for a living.
471
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,788
- Where did you go to school?
- The Lake School for Girls.
472
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:49,553
Before that, public schools.
473
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:54,316
I have here a copy of a letter from the
dean of admissions of the Lake School.
474
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,437
In it, she states that there's no record of
a Claire West ever attending that school.
475
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,638
- I should know what school I went to.
- Yes, you should.
476
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,119
Do you know a man
named Arthur Raymond?
477
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,191
He works for my husband.
478
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,319
Did you have occasion to meet him
before he went to work for your husband?
479
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,753
No.
480
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,400
Are you familiar
with the name Claire Dietrich?
481
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,198
No.
482
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:26,559
Claire Dietrich was 13 years old
when she entered this country in 1949.
483
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,473
How old were you in 1949,
Mrs Estep?
484
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,113
13.
485
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,432
Speak into the microphone, please. We're
having difficulty hearing your replies.
486
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,511
13!
487
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:43,792
Mrs Estep, Arthur Raymond
was the immigration officer
488
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,519
who heard Claire Dietrich's case.
489
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:51,230
I ask you again - did you have occasion
to meet Arthur Raymond
490
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,198
before he went to work
for your husband?
491
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,829
I have already said no.
492
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,070
Doesrt it strike you as coincidence
493
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,948
that after Arthur Raymond
allowed Claire Dietrich into this country,
494
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,669
he left the Immigration Office
and went to work for your husband?
495
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,389
Mr Chairman, I thank the good Lord
that I'm not the witness.
496
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:15,109
I swear I wouldn't know
how to answer that question.
497
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,919
- Your real name is Claire Dietrich, isn't it?
- No.
498
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,558
Your father is Albert Dietrich.
499
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,712
Mr and Mrs West were invented
for an acceptable background.
500
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:23,789
No!
501
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,749
Why did your husband have to bribe
Raymond to allow you into this country?
502
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,912
Why did he have to invent
a set of parents for you?
503
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:34,639
Why has he gone
to these elaborate measures
504
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:38,599
to remove
all trace of Albert Dietrich's existence?
505
00:38:38,680 --> 00:38:42,036
I have never heard of
Albert Dietrich!
506
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,953
Mr Chairman,
I am as fond of fishing as the next man,
507
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:49,830
but I think the senator
has cast his line into empty waters.
508
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,629
Unless there's a nibble soon, Senator,
I suggest you move on.
509
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,715
One final question, Mrs Estep.
510
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,830
What is in your past
511
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:06,038
that was won'th six million dollars
to keep hidden?
512
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:17,033
Request the witness keep herself available
for further questioning.
513
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,588
Witness will comply.
514
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,709
- How's it going?
- By the day, by the week, by the month.
515
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,075
I didn't come
looking for a place to flop.
516
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,277
- Then what are you doing in a hotel?
- I'm looking for a friend.
517
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,273
Uh, young blond-haired fella
about 18 years old. Nice, clean-cut.
518
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,920
- Yeah, you just missed him.
- Oh, really?
519
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,560
Hey, he's looking for you, too.
520
00:41:24,640 --> 00:41:27,200
- Is that right?
- Yeah.
521
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:32,434
- Hey, you really got a glass eye?
- He's always kidding.
522
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,638
Uh, did he tell you where he went? We've
been trying to connect for a few days now.
523
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:40,076
Yeah. He gave me
his phone number in case I seen you.
524
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,435
Well, he's finally using his head.
525
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:47,230
You know, you two guys
don't look like you'd be friends.
526
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:51,552
Well, we're not really. You see,
I used to be shipmates with his father.
527
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:56,236
Now I wanna do for the kid
what I did for the old man.
528
00:42:10,720 --> 00:42:13,234
(gavel bangs)
529
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,073
I do solemnly swear
the information I'm about to give
530
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,472
is the truth, the whole truth
and nothing but the truth, so help me God.
531
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,155
- State your name for the record.
- John Franklin.
532
00:42:29,240 --> 00:42:31,879
Mr Franklin,
where are you employed?
533
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,997
I'm executive vice president
of Tricorp International.
534
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,595
- What was your position before that?
- Chief financial officer.
535
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,274
In your capacity as
chief financial officer,
536
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:46,388
were you given any extraordinary duties
to perform for Charles Estep?
537
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,309
Could you be more specific, Senator?
538
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,356
Certainly.
539
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,274
Did Charles Estep direct you
to open Swiss bank accounts
540
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,397
for various
Justice Department prosecutors?
541
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:06,873
No, he never did.
542
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,878
May I remind the witness
he is under oath?
543
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,589
That's why I answered as I did,
Senator.
544
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,114
Mr Franklin,
545
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:26,194
I have here a series of cheques made out
to a Swiss bank and signed by you.
546
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:29,395
I don't deny that.
547
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:34,952
Well then, would you tell this committee
whom you opened these accounts for?
548
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,354
- For myself.
- Jordache, what the hell is going on?!
549
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:45,958
The next logical question, I presume, is
why did you open those Swiss accounts?
550
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:52,114
- Because I was siphoning Tricorp funds.
- (Dillon) I see.
551
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,034
But how did Senator Jordache
get his nose into that kind of business?
552
00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:01,433
Well, somehow my lapse of corporate
integrity was brought to his attention.
553
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,830
He suggested that,
in lieu of criminal action,
554
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,948
I testify that those accounts were opened
for certain Justice Department lawyers
555
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,031
at the direction of Charles Estep.
556
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:13,599
(crowd mutters)
557
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,592
And you agreed
to go along with that scheme?
558
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,834
I was frightened.
I'm not a young man, Senator.
559
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,196
The thought of even a few years in prison
did not appeal to me.
560
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,429
Mr Franklin,
561
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:33,548
we have memos signed by Charles Estep
directing you to open those accounts.
562
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,790
They're forgeries.
563
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:40,635
Senator Jordache instructed me
to come up with some tangible evidence
564
00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:44,395
linking Mr Estep
with bribery in the Justice Department.
565
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,038
That's a lie!
566
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,635
Handwriting analysis will show
those signatures are not Mr Estep's.
567
00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:52,154
- He got to you, didn't he?
- Who?
568
00:44:52,240 --> 00:44:55,516
- Estep!
- No, Senator. My conscience got to me.
569
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,160
I move to recess these hearings
until tomorrow.
570
00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:02,677
No, Mr Chairman! Senator Jordache
initiated this line of questioning!
571
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:07,231
Just because it bites him, there's
no reason to close these hearings now.
572
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,357
I have been led down the garden path
by this witness.
573
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,228
Either he's been feeding me
false information from the start
574
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:18,677
or else Charles Estep bought him off
with money or threats or both!
575
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,320
Did Charles Estep threaten you,
Mr Franklin?
576
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:27,430
No. On the contrary, he kindly offered
not to press charges if I told the truth here.
577
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,638
And there goes another windowpane
shattered, Senator.
578
00:45:31,720 --> 00:45:35,633
I, for one,
need time to digest all this.
579
00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:38,473
I second the motion
that we recess until tomorrow.
580
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,278
So ordered!
581
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,351
Ten o'clock, my office.
582
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:04,629
Rudy, I'II, uh...
I'll wait for you outside.
583
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:22,668
I wish I could say
that we were even now, Senator.
584
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,149
But you've just started to bleed.
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