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Would you like to inspect the original subtitles? These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:07,000 Downloaded from YTS.MX 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,000 Official YIFY movies site: YTS.MX 3 00:00:26,818 --> 00:00:28,153 This is a show trial, 4 00:00:28,153 --> 00:00:30,071 and we're gonna show all that in there. 5 00:00:30,071 --> 00:00:33,283 All lies, all lies. This is a kangaroo court, 6 00:00:33,283 --> 00:00:34,951 this is political action, it's a witch hunt. 7 00:00:34,951 --> 00:00:36,202 I'll be back later. 8 00:00:53,261 --> 00:00:55,764 It's about the damage that was done to me. 9 00:00:56,681 --> 00:00:59,893 Jones was repeating these lies. 10 00:00:59,893 --> 00:01:03,521 I was accused of being part of a government conspiracy. 11 00:01:03,521 --> 00:01:04,773 None of it's true. 12 00:01:06,024 --> 00:01:07,359 All I did was lose my son. 13 00:01:07,359 --> 00:01:09,402 He was brutally murdered and shot and killed 14 00:01:09,402 --> 00:01:11,821 in his first-grade classroom. 15 00:01:11,821 --> 00:01:13,823 And I have to deal with this abuse 16 00:01:13,823 --> 00:01:16,201 by a loudmouth with a blowhorn? 17 00:01:16,201 --> 00:01:17,327 All rise. 18 00:01:17,327 --> 00:01:19,829 459th District Court is now in session. 19 00:01:19,829 --> 00:01:22,457 The Honorable Judge Maya Guerra Gamble presiding. 20 00:01:23,583 --> 00:01:27,837 Alex Jones chose to continue to seed 21 00:01:27,837 --> 00:01:32,717 and perpetrate lies that Sandy Hook never happened. 22 00:01:33,551 --> 00:01:36,680 Making shit up. 23 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,223 I mean, it's-- it's fake. 24 00:01:38,223 --> 00:01:40,392 I... The whole thing is just... 25 00:01:40,392 --> 00:01:44,020 That's how Alex Jones runs his empire, 26 00:01:44,020 --> 00:01:46,314 and I think that that needs to be stopped. 27 00:01:47,482 --> 00:01:49,150 This is Neil and Scarlett. 28 00:01:50,235 --> 00:01:53,446 Mr. Jones has robbed Neil and Scarlett 29 00:01:53,446 --> 00:01:55,532 of the time they needed to heal 30 00:01:55,532 --> 00:01:57,909 over the violent death of their son, Jesse. 31 00:01:57,909 --> 00:02:00,912 People thought of Infowars as a fringe organization. 32 00:02:00,912 --> 00:02:02,372 But at the height of its powers, 33 00:02:02,372 --> 00:02:04,124 more people were watching Infowars 34 00:02:04,124 --> 00:02:06,459 at any given time than CNN. 35 00:02:06,459 --> 00:02:11,089 What you have to remember is that Mr. Jones for ten years 36 00:02:11,089 --> 00:02:13,925 intentionally lied that the shooting was fake 37 00:02:13,925 --> 00:02:15,552 or a government-led plot. 38 00:02:15,552 --> 00:02:18,680 This is the most egregious case of defamation 39 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:19,764 in American history. 40 00:02:19,764 --> 00:02:22,308 Mr. Jones has been canceled. 41 00:02:22,308 --> 00:02:24,769 And I believe in every American's right 42 00:02:24,769 --> 00:02:29,607 to choose what they listen to and what they believe. 43 00:02:31,735 --> 00:02:34,946 It's got to be known that Alex Jones is a liar. 44 00:02:36,239 --> 00:02:38,533 If it came to a knock-down, drag-out fight 45 00:02:38,533 --> 00:02:41,494 in the Travis County Courthouse, that's what it's gonna be. 46 00:02:41,494 --> 00:02:43,288 I do. 47 00:02:43,288 --> 00:02:46,166 Alex Jones will meet me face to face. 48 00:02:56,634 --> 00:02:59,054 Hello, Austin, Texas. I'm Alex Jones, 49 00:02:59,054 --> 00:03:00,764 and you're watching Exposing Mass Media. 50 00:03:02,474 --> 00:03:04,309 That's what we've got to talk about. 51 00:03:04,309 --> 00:03:06,644 I've got quite a few programs that you'll see live 52 00:03:06,644 --> 00:03:09,022 here on Austin Community Access Centre. 53 00:03:09,022 --> 00:03:11,149 The simple way the world works, okay? 54 00:03:11,149 --> 00:03:12,901 We always looked up to him. 55 00:03:12,901 --> 00:03:15,987 The guy that started out, you know, 22 years old 56 00:03:15,987 --> 00:03:18,156 in public access television. 57 00:03:18,156 --> 00:03:20,909 When I fear something, I go after it! 58 00:03:21,493 --> 00:03:23,495 Makeup, lovey, makeup. 59 00:03:23,495 --> 00:03:25,121 Public Access in Austin 60 00:03:25,121 --> 00:03:28,249 is a bit of a cultural phenomenon unto itself, 61 00:03:28,249 --> 00:03:31,378 and it's one of the oldest in the country. 62 00:03:31,378 --> 00:03:33,171 You know, there was a lot of freedom 63 00:03:33,171 --> 00:03:35,215 to the programming that was available, 64 00:03:35,215 --> 00:03:37,384 but it was shared all over the US. 65 00:03:37,384 --> 00:03:38,718 You're on the air. 66 00:03:38,718 --> 00:03:40,095 There was guys that would come on there 67 00:03:40,095 --> 00:03:41,680 and talk about serious political issues 68 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,225 with a toilet bowl ring wrapped around their neck. 69 00:03:45,225 --> 00:03:47,852 Now, there's somebody a lot smarter than I am, see? 70 00:03:47,852 --> 00:03:50,522 I wouldn't say in all of it being conspiratorial, 71 00:03:50,522 --> 00:03:53,775 but it was a very free-thinking forum. 72 00:03:54,317 --> 00:03:55,694 Hail Satan. 73 00:03:56,820 --> 00:03:58,655 Righteously, mother-- 74 00:03:58,655 --> 00:04:01,199 I come on public access and hang out. 75 00:04:01,199 --> 00:04:02,701 I'm on 24 hours a day, they say. 76 00:04:02,701 --> 00:04:04,619 Yeah, very-- pretty close. 77 00:04:04,619 --> 00:04:06,371 Well, I can assure you I don't make any money 78 00:04:06,371 --> 00:04:07,872 off public access. 79 00:04:07,872 --> 00:04:11,918 But Alex eventually stood out as he got thicker skin. 80 00:04:11,918 --> 00:04:13,003 It hasn't stopped! 81 00:04:16,047 --> 00:04:19,259 His ability to capture that audience, it's impressive. 82 00:04:19,259 --> 00:04:20,719 You watched because you didn't know 83 00:04:20,719 --> 00:04:23,847 what the guy was gonna say next. You didn't know. 84 00:04:23,847 --> 00:04:26,933 We love you, we're the government. 85 00:04:26,933 --> 00:04:28,351 That's what scares me. 86 00:04:28,351 --> 00:04:32,105 We're smiling-faced bureaucrats. Ooh! 87 00:04:32,105 --> 00:04:34,566 He was fucking hilarious, man. 88 00:04:35,150 --> 00:04:36,234 He would rant and rave, 89 00:04:36,234 --> 00:04:37,902 and there'd be times when he'd blow up 90 00:04:37,902 --> 00:04:40,488 and get red faced and started spitting. 91 00:04:40,488 --> 00:04:43,199 It was absolutely hilarious, entertaining as hell. 92 00:04:43,199 --> 00:04:44,909 I'm sorry for you. 93 00:04:44,909 --> 00:04:47,328 The thing that really caught my attention 94 00:04:47,328 --> 00:04:50,081 was when he was pointing out that there was fluoride 95 00:04:50,081 --> 00:04:51,916 in the baby water. 96 00:04:51,916 --> 00:04:54,544 'Cause he's like, "Oh, they're putting fluoride, 97 00:04:54,544 --> 00:04:57,839 the poison into the baby water. Oh! Just for the baby." 98 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,842 He'd do his entire antics. And it caught my attention. 99 00:05:00,842 --> 00:05:04,262 I was like, "Yeah, why are they putting fluoride 100 00:05:04,262 --> 00:05:05,597 in the baby water?" 101 00:05:05,597 --> 00:05:08,433 I don't want to see the baby get poisoned, you know. 102 00:05:08,433 --> 00:05:10,518 It's hard to be an awake person. 103 00:05:10,518 --> 00:05:12,312 I was totally hooked. 104 00:05:13,188 --> 00:05:14,522 Look at this. 105 00:05:14,522 --> 00:05:15,940 My friend leaned over to me, and he was like, 106 00:05:15,940 --> 00:05:18,860 "You know, if you've ever looked at your toothpaste, 107 00:05:18,860 --> 00:05:22,322 and it says, if you swallow more than a pea-sized amount, 108 00:05:22,906 --> 00:05:23,948 call Poison Control. 109 00:05:23,948 --> 00:05:25,909 Why do you think they put that in the water supply?" 110 00:05:25,909 --> 00:05:27,285 "No idea, I don't know." 111 00:05:27,285 --> 00:05:29,371 And he's like, "Well, it's mind control." 112 00:05:31,623 --> 00:05:33,500 We have been predicting 113 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:36,127 this nightmarish development 114 00:05:36,127 --> 00:05:38,630 for years. 115 00:05:38,630 --> 00:05:40,882 Either the government actually carried out 116 00:05:40,882 --> 00:05:42,384 this bombing themselves, 117 00:05:42,384 --> 00:05:46,179 or, ladies and gentlemen, they allowed terrorists 118 00:05:46,179 --> 00:05:48,264 to engage in this sinister activity. 119 00:05:48,264 --> 00:05:49,933 He started getting a following. 120 00:05:49,933 --> 00:05:51,309 And I think after 9/11, 121 00:05:51,309 --> 00:05:53,978 his-- his listenership and audience grew. 122 00:05:56,523 --> 00:05:57,816 Look at that, ladies and gentlemen. 123 00:05:57,816 --> 00:06:00,402 Look at it drop from demolitions in the bottom. 124 00:06:01,736 --> 00:06:03,488 He'd gone from local broadcast 125 00:06:03,488 --> 00:06:04,823 to national broadcast. 126 00:06:04,823 --> 00:06:08,493 He became four hours a day, six days a week. 127 00:06:09,244 --> 00:06:12,205 There was never a... 128 00:06:12,205 --> 00:06:14,666 "Hey, here's the production meeting 129 00:06:14,666 --> 00:06:16,418 in the morning." 130 00:06:16,418 --> 00:06:19,045 It was as organic as you could get. 131 00:06:19,045 --> 00:06:23,133 I came in, two, three hours before everyone else, 132 00:06:23,133 --> 00:06:25,635 and started printing news stories. 133 00:06:25,635 --> 00:06:28,221 There was one stack that was the juice. 134 00:06:28,221 --> 00:06:30,807 Boom. And he would just freeform. 135 00:06:31,850 --> 00:06:33,768 Here's the headline. 136 00:06:33,768 --> 00:06:37,731 "Fukushima radioactive wave has already hit California." 137 00:06:37,731 --> 00:06:40,483 It's taken two plus years for that to get here. 138 00:06:40,483 --> 00:06:42,110 I mean, it was like that with him. 139 00:06:42,110 --> 00:06:43,570 He got an idea, and he wanted you 140 00:06:43,570 --> 00:06:45,488 to go do it right then. 141 00:06:46,698 --> 00:06:47,907 It was, "You're going to drive 142 00:06:47,907 --> 00:06:51,411 all along the coast of California and do a reading. 143 00:06:51,411 --> 00:06:53,538 And post a video, immediately." 144 00:06:53,538 --> 00:06:56,124 They're doing their various readings at this moment. 145 00:06:56,124 --> 00:06:57,375 And from what I'm told, 146 00:06:57,375 --> 00:07:00,920 Adan, we still have 15 microrems, is that correct? 147 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:04,591 We found, specifically, 148 00:07:04,591 --> 00:07:07,177 that there were not high radiation levels. 149 00:07:09,179 --> 00:07:14,434 We get a call and they're like, "Jones is furious. 150 00:07:14,434 --> 00:07:17,187 Stop posting these videos saying that 151 00:07:17,187 --> 00:07:20,857 there aren't high levels of radiation in California." 152 00:07:21,900 --> 00:07:23,985 Radiation levels have more than doubled 153 00:07:23,985 --> 00:07:25,403 in the last 60 years and... 154 00:07:25,403 --> 00:07:27,322 Jones started selling 155 00:07:27,322 --> 00:07:29,532 his first privately labeled supplement. 156 00:07:29,532 --> 00:07:32,702 Infowars Life, which was an iodine supplement. 157 00:07:32,702 --> 00:07:34,954 Talking about Fukushima, I realized in the last segment 158 00:07:34,954 --> 00:07:36,581 that I've only taken it this morning, 159 00:07:36,581 --> 00:07:38,541 I take it twice a day as recommended. 160 00:07:38,541 --> 00:07:42,253 He somehow turned some geopolitical story 161 00:07:42,253 --> 00:07:44,714 into a need for a supplement. 162 00:07:46,758 --> 00:07:49,094 When Jones started getting so mad at us 163 00:07:49,094 --> 00:07:50,428 for posting those videos, 164 00:07:50,428 --> 00:07:51,971 it was, "Oh, okay. 165 00:07:53,390 --> 00:07:55,725 We did come here to sell a product." 166 00:07:55,725 --> 00:07:57,644 The government will not tell you 167 00:07:57,644 --> 00:07:59,604 that during increased radiation levels, 168 00:07:59,604 --> 00:08:02,065 you need more iodine to protect the thyroid. 169 00:08:02,065 --> 00:08:03,733 They will not tell you this. 170 00:08:04,567 --> 00:08:06,611 Did we think he wanted us to lie? 171 00:08:06,611 --> 00:08:07,821 Yeah, it was obvious. 172 00:08:20,583 --> 00:08:22,502 On that Friday morning, 173 00:08:22,502 --> 00:08:24,462 I hear little footsteps running up behind me. 174 00:08:24,462 --> 00:08:25,880 And it's little Daniel. 175 00:08:29,801 --> 00:08:32,595 We got on this couch right behind me here, and... 176 00:08:32,595 --> 00:08:34,931 I said, "You know, it's not even daylight yet. 177 00:08:34,931 --> 00:08:36,516 You have time if you wanna go back to bed 178 00:08:36,516 --> 00:08:37,767 and sleep a little more." 179 00:08:37,767 --> 00:08:39,978 And he said, "No, Dad, let's cuddle on the couch. 180 00:08:39,978 --> 00:08:42,397 We'll have time for cuddling this way." 181 00:08:42,397 --> 00:08:44,399 And Daniel says, "Dad, look at how you can see 182 00:08:44,399 --> 00:08:46,735 the reflection of our Christmas tree lights 183 00:08:46,735 --> 00:08:49,904 in the window with that beautiful sunrise behind it." 184 00:08:51,573 --> 00:08:53,116 So, I said, "You know what? You're right, 185 00:08:53,116 --> 00:08:54,200 I'm going to go get the camera." 186 00:08:55,702 --> 00:08:57,996 I have a picture of that sunrise that morning 187 00:08:57,996 --> 00:09:00,665 with the Christmas tree lights reflecting in the window. 188 00:09:01,833 --> 00:09:03,835 And I really wish I'd turned the camera round 189 00:09:03,835 --> 00:09:05,086 and taken a picture of him. 190 00:09:12,427 --> 00:09:14,679 For our church, we were preparing for this 191 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,848 big Christmas party that we were having, 192 00:09:16,848 --> 00:09:18,850 and they were doing this nativity scene. 193 00:09:18,850 --> 00:09:22,395 And Emilie was going to be an angel at this nativity scene. 194 00:09:22,395 --> 00:09:25,565 She was awake and she was sitting on the edge of her bed 195 00:09:25,565 --> 00:09:28,318 waiting for seven o'clock to happen. 196 00:09:28,318 --> 00:09:30,737 I got a chance to just sit next to her 197 00:09:30,737 --> 00:09:32,697 and give her a hug and tell her how much I loved her, 198 00:09:32,697 --> 00:09:35,116 and that wasn't something that I got to do very often 199 00:09:35,116 --> 00:09:36,284 before I went to work. 200 00:09:40,038 --> 00:09:41,706 "Come on, Jess. We gotta get up 201 00:09:41,706 --> 00:09:43,291 and get ready to go to school." 202 00:09:48,630 --> 00:09:50,757 He got up and, um... 203 00:09:52,217 --> 00:09:55,220 was poking around, poking along, dogging along. 204 00:09:56,763 --> 00:09:58,223 And my mind was contemplating 205 00:09:58,223 --> 00:10:00,642 whether to send him to school that day. 206 00:10:01,643 --> 00:10:03,228 But it was class project day. 207 00:10:03,228 --> 00:10:05,730 We were each going to make a gingerbread house. 208 00:10:06,815 --> 00:10:09,317 The only reason I think I sent him was because 209 00:10:09,317 --> 00:10:12,320 we were supposed to make those stupid gingerbread houses. 210 00:10:13,405 --> 00:10:15,782 I really-- I think often about that. 211 00:10:19,744 --> 00:10:22,122 And I walked him into the school. 212 00:10:22,122 --> 00:10:23,373 He was holding my hand 213 00:10:23,373 --> 00:10:25,291 and he darted into the classroom. 214 00:10:27,085 --> 00:10:31,381 And that was the last I saw him. Alive, anyway. 215 00:10:38,638 --> 00:10:40,432 Forty-five minutes later, 216 00:10:40,432 --> 00:10:42,809 we started to get the text messages. 217 00:11:10,587 --> 00:11:12,255 Unfortunately, sometimes, 218 00:11:12,255 --> 00:11:14,799 when evil walks in your door, 219 00:11:14,799 --> 00:11:17,218 and you only have a short amount of time, 220 00:11:17,218 --> 00:11:19,304 there wasn't much that they could do. 221 00:11:25,477 --> 00:11:27,479 His first shooting is the eight rounds 222 00:11:27,479 --> 00:11:28,605 that he shoots through that window 223 00:11:28,605 --> 00:11:29,898 at the front of the building. 224 00:11:31,024 --> 00:11:33,276 He then makes entrance into the lobby. 225 00:11:35,070 --> 00:11:38,573 Upon hearing the commotion, the school principal, 226 00:11:38,573 --> 00:11:42,786 Dawn Hochsprung, gets up and heads to the door. 227 00:11:42,786 --> 00:11:45,121 She tells her people to stay put, 228 00:11:45,121 --> 00:11:46,956 uh, but they don't listen to her, right. 229 00:11:46,956 --> 00:11:50,835 Mary Sherlach, the psychologist, is actually right on her heels. 230 00:11:50,835 --> 00:11:52,837 And they start to make their way down the hallway 231 00:11:52,837 --> 00:11:56,174 towards the lobby, when they're shot and killed. 232 00:12:00,261 --> 00:12:02,847 Newtown 911, what's the location of your emergency? 233 00:12:02,847 --> 00:12:05,392 Sandy Hook school. I think somebody's got a gun. 234 00:12:05,392 --> 00:12:06,726 I caught a glimpse of somebody. 235 00:12:06,726 --> 00:12:08,269 They're running down the hallway. 236 00:12:10,355 --> 00:12:11,564 The first 911 call, 237 00:12:11,564 --> 00:12:14,693 I estimate that that's probably about a minute and a half 238 00:12:14,693 --> 00:12:17,195 after the shooting actually begins. 239 00:12:17,195 --> 00:12:18,655 We're in the classroom, 240 00:12:18,655 --> 00:12:22,033 and my children are just scared, and we wanted to know an update. 241 00:12:24,869 --> 00:12:26,371 He continues down the hallway, 242 00:12:26,371 --> 00:12:30,208 and I believe that the first room that he goes into 243 00:12:30,208 --> 00:12:32,210 is classroom ten. 244 00:12:32,210 --> 00:12:35,547 And some of them start to react and move. 245 00:12:35,547 --> 00:12:37,340 It's more difficult than it looks like 246 00:12:37,340 --> 00:12:39,551 to actually shoot somebody, 247 00:12:39,551 --> 00:12:41,845 especially somebody that's moving. 248 00:12:44,305 --> 00:12:46,891 There are several students that are able to escape 249 00:12:47,434 --> 00:12:48,435 from that room. 250 00:12:50,603 --> 00:12:53,648 In each one of these classrooms there's a small bathroom, 251 00:12:53,648 --> 00:12:56,985 and two of the students actually take up hiding in the bathroom. 252 00:12:59,279 --> 00:13:02,615 He shoots and kills the teacher, Victoria Soto, 253 00:13:02,615 --> 00:13:06,411 and the teacher's aide, Anne Marie Murphy. 254 00:13:06,411 --> 00:13:09,873 Uh, Anne Marie was still clutching the student 255 00:13:09,873 --> 00:13:12,334 that she took care of, Dylan Hockley, 256 00:13:13,043 --> 00:13:14,336 who was also killed. 257 00:13:15,420 --> 00:13:21,092 And he also killed Jesse Lewis, Avielle Richman, 258 00:13:22,135 --> 00:13:25,847 Allison Wyatt, and Olivia Engel. 259 00:13:26,931 --> 00:13:29,642 I then believe that he leaves classroom ten 260 00:13:29,642 --> 00:13:31,269 and goes into classroom eight. 261 00:13:32,771 --> 00:13:35,732 And again, now by this time, 262 00:13:35,732 --> 00:13:38,526 this classroom has the ability to have reacted, 263 00:13:38,526 --> 00:13:41,571 to gather into what they believe would be a safe location. 264 00:13:41,571 --> 00:13:44,282 In this case, they've chosen that very small bathroom 265 00:13:44,282 --> 00:13:48,828 that's in the far-left corner of their classroom. 266 00:13:48,828 --> 00:13:52,832 All the kids are able to get into that bathroom, 267 00:13:52,832 --> 00:13:54,209 but the two adults aren't 268 00:13:54,209 --> 00:13:56,628 and they're standing just outside. 269 00:13:56,628 --> 00:13:58,713 And when he walks in there, 270 00:13:58,713 --> 00:14:01,841 he shoots and kills the substitute teacher, 271 00:14:01,841 --> 00:14:03,468 Lauren Rousseau, 272 00:14:03,468 --> 00:14:06,554 and the behavior specialist that was in that room, 273 00:14:06,554 --> 00:14:07,931 Rachel D'Avino. 274 00:14:07,931 --> 00:14:11,059 They both gave their lives trying to protect those kids. 275 00:14:13,603 --> 00:14:18,525 And he also kills Daniel Barden, Charlotte Bacon, 276 00:14:19,943 --> 00:14:24,030 Josephine Gay, Madeleine Hsu, 277 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:29,327 Catherine Hubbard, Chase Kowalski, 278 00:14:30,912 --> 00:14:35,041 James Mattioli, Ana Marquez-Greene, 279 00:14:36,543 --> 00:14:40,422 Grace McDonnell, Jack Pinto, 280 00:14:42,257 --> 00:14:46,636 Noah Pozner, Caroline Previdi, 281 00:14:48,013 --> 00:14:52,267 Emilie Parker, Jessica Rekos, 282 00:14:53,518 --> 00:14:54,894 and Benjamin Wheeler. 283 00:14:56,104 --> 00:14:58,398 There's... There's one survivor 284 00:14:58,398 --> 00:15:01,192 in that group of kids that are in the bathroom, 285 00:15:01,192 --> 00:15:05,113 and she just, miraculously, was not struck. 286 00:15:08,700 --> 00:15:12,037 I believe in that room he fires about 80 rounds. 287 00:15:13,538 --> 00:15:17,667 They're aimed shots at extremely close range. 288 00:15:17,667 --> 00:15:20,712 He's squeezing the trigger rapidly. 289 00:15:24,382 --> 00:15:26,926 Then I believe that he actually then walks back 290 00:15:26,926 --> 00:15:28,136 to classroom ten. 291 00:15:28,136 --> 00:15:32,057 He's fired two rounds with the 10mm, 292 00:15:32,057 --> 00:15:35,935 one goes up into the ceiling and he puts the suicide shot 293 00:15:35,935 --> 00:15:37,228 into his head. 294 00:15:38,772 --> 00:15:43,026 From when he starts shooting to when he commits suicide, 295 00:15:43,026 --> 00:15:45,570 the whole incident ends up being about six minutes. 296 00:15:54,204 --> 00:15:55,372 Good morning. 297 00:15:55,372 --> 00:15:59,876 Uh, this message is for Sandy Hook parents only. 298 00:15:59,876 --> 00:16:03,338 At this time, if you have not already done so, 299 00:16:03,338 --> 00:16:06,758 you may go to the Sandy Hook firehouse 300 00:16:06,758 --> 00:16:08,593 and pick up your child. 301 00:16:08,593 --> 00:16:13,139 All other Newtown schools remain in lockdown. 302 00:16:13,723 --> 00:16:14,724 Thank you. 303 00:16:16,351 --> 00:16:18,561 Nothing can ever happen to your child... 304 00:16:20,438 --> 00:16:23,274 so I really wasn't even that worried, frankly. 305 00:16:25,151 --> 00:16:27,237 I walked to the firehouse first. 306 00:16:28,446 --> 00:16:30,990 And then, by that time, Scarlett had gotten there 307 00:16:30,990 --> 00:16:33,368 and we-- we still couldn't find Jesse. 308 00:16:35,078 --> 00:16:36,287 I walked up to somebody 309 00:16:36,287 --> 00:16:38,081 official-looking in a uniform, 310 00:16:38,081 --> 00:16:41,459 and I said, "I'm looking for my son, Jesse Lewis." 311 00:16:41,459 --> 00:16:42,961 They said, "If you can't find him, 312 00:16:42,961 --> 00:16:44,587 put his name down on a list." 313 00:16:45,255 --> 00:16:46,840 There was a long list, 314 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,717 and never in a million years did I think 315 00:16:48,717 --> 00:16:50,593 that all of those people were dead. 316 00:16:52,220 --> 00:16:54,681 A police officer walked up to me and said, 317 00:16:54,681 --> 00:16:57,767 "Did Jesse have any identifying marks on his body?" 318 00:17:01,604 --> 00:17:05,150 And... he did. 319 00:17:05,150 --> 00:17:08,319 He had a little mole on the top of his right foot. 320 00:17:08,319 --> 00:17:12,157 So, I thought to myself... 321 00:17:14,743 --> 00:17:16,119 "That's not a good sign." 322 00:17:26,171 --> 00:17:27,839 And it must have been around three o'clock, 323 00:17:27,839 --> 00:17:34,137 I remember Governor Malloy getting up, making a speech. 324 00:17:34,971 --> 00:17:36,639 I remember speaking up, saying, 325 00:17:36,639 --> 00:17:40,101 "Are there any survivors left in the school? 326 00:17:40,852 --> 00:17:44,105 Is anybody alive that is missing?" 327 00:17:45,023 --> 00:17:46,358 And he didn't answer the question, 328 00:17:46,358 --> 00:17:48,360 and I asked it a couple of times 329 00:17:48,360 --> 00:17:50,320 and he finally said-- put his head down 330 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,615 and said, "No, there's no survivors." 331 00:18:00,538 --> 00:18:03,667 I was able to see him before we cremated him. 332 00:18:04,668 --> 00:18:06,378 And they instructed me, 333 00:18:06,378 --> 00:18:10,590 you know, um, "Don't touch him except for his hands 334 00:18:10,590 --> 00:18:14,052 because you won't like what you feel." 335 00:18:14,052 --> 00:18:18,264 He was, um, in the arms of Anne Marie, 336 00:18:18,264 --> 00:18:19,724 his special education assistant. 337 00:18:19,724 --> 00:18:22,185 They said the way that their bodies were found, 338 00:18:22,185 --> 00:18:25,355 him on his back with the knees and her arms around him, 339 00:18:25,355 --> 00:18:27,816 that she had been trying to protect him. 340 00:18:27,816 --> 00:18:29,234 I know from the autopsy report 341 00:18:29,234 --> 00:18:33,238 that some of, um, the fragments from her body 342 00:18:33,238 --> 00:18:35,240 were actually lodged into his, 343 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,200 because of the impact of the bullets. 344 00:18:42,455 --> 00:18:45,458 I held his hand for hours... 345 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,838 until it got warm. 346 00:18:51,715 --> 00:18:54,759 It-- it almost felt like a live hand, 347 00:18:54,759 --> 00:18:56,970 and I looked at the fingernails, 348 00:18:56,970 --> 00:18:59,764 and the fingernails still had dirt... 349 00:18:59,764 --> 00:19:01,474 ...under them. 350 00:19:05,270 --> 00:19:06,896 He was in the funeral home. 351 00:19:08,189 --> 00:19:11,276 His face was, um, covered with a cloth 352 00:19:11,276 --> 00:19:13,695 from his nose down. 353 00:19:14,696 --> 00:19:16,948 We were told that he has an injury there, 354 00:19:16,948 --> 00:19:21,161 and it's better to keep a cloth over his mouth. 355 00:19:22,454 --> 00:19:24,831 I kissed his forehead, and it was very cold, 356 00:19:25,749 --> 00:19:29,753 and not the same sensation 357 00:19:29,753 --> 00:19:31,838 as the thousands of times 358 00:19:31,838 --> 00:19:33,298 I've kissed him on his forehead, 359 00:19:33,298 --> 00:19:36,301 so it was... um... 360 00:19:38,553 --> 00:19:39,554 very shocking. 361 00:19:41,514 --> 00:19:43,308 ...defeated the Goblin, 362 00:19:43,308 --> 00:19:46,353 and the Goblin was still... 363 00:19:46,353 --> 00:19:47,812 he was fighting back and still alive... 364 00:19:47,812 --> 00:19:52,317 He had just turned six, and, um... 365 00:19:55,070 --> 00:19:56,404 I would hear him. 366 00:19:57,655 --> 00:19:59,824 I would see him out of the corner of my eye, 367 00:19:59,824 --> 00:20:01,576 but he was never really there. 368 00:20:06,456 --> 00:20:09,084 And I just kind of willed myself 369 00:20:09,084 --> 00:20:12,337 to see him running in the snow 370 00:20:12,337 --> 00:20:15,382 with his jacket on, coming towards the house... 371 00:20:16,424 --> 00:20:18,843 ...and telling me that he had gotten away... 372 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:22,806 from the shooter. 373 00:20:27,519 --> 00:20:30,438 Ladies and gentlemen, it is Friday. 374 00:20:30,438 --> 00:20:33,733 Thank you so much for joining us the 14th day 375 00:20:33,733 --> 00:20:36,695 of December 2012, 376 00:20:36,695 --> 00:20:40,156 and there is a reported school shooting in Connecticut, 377 00:20:40,156 --> 00:20:43,368 one of the states that has draconian restrictions 378 00:20:43,368 --> 00:20:45,662 on gun ownership. 379 00:20:45,662 --> 00:20:47,872 Mr. Jones, I want to show you some video clips 380 00:20:47,872 --> 00:20:52,210 of some things you were saying as news broke of Sandy Hook. 381 00:20:52,210 --> 00:20:55,714 And in a video that day that you titled 382 00:20:55,714 --> 00:21:00,218 "Connecticut School Massacre Looks Like False Flag, 383 00:21:00,218 --> 00:21:01,553 Says Witnesses." 384 00:21:01,553 --> 00:21:04,222 Can you play the clip "Day of Sandy Hook"? 385 00:21:06,349 --> 00:21:09,519 And I said, "They are going to come after our guns, 386 00:21:09,519 --> 00:21:11,312 look for mass shootings," 387 00:21:11,312 --> 00:21:13,398 and then magically it happens. 388 00:21:13,398 --> 00:21:15,775 They are coming. They are coming. 389 00:21:15,775 --> 00:21:16,943 They are coming. 390 00:21:16,943 --> 00:21:19,571 You were the first person in the world 391 00:21:19,571 --> 00:21:22,240 to make the false flag theory about Sandy Hook, 392 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,826 and you did it before the bodies were even cold. 393 00:21:24,826 --> 00:21:25,744 That's the truth. 394 00:21:25,744 --> 00:21:27,412 -Objection. - No, it's not true. 395 00:21:29,247 --> 00:21:30,874 This is staged. 396 00:21:30,874 --> 00:21:32,667 And you know I've been saying the last few months, 397 00:21:32,667 --> 00:21:34,711 get ready for big mass shootings. 398 00:21:36,546 --> 00:21:38,340 From the very beginning, 399 00:21:39,424 --> 00:21:41,259 Sandy Hook parents have been asking you 400 00:21:41,259 --> 00:21:42,844 to leave them alone, right? 401 00:21:45,430 --> 00:21:47,640 I don't remember that from the very beginning, no. 402 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:48,850 Okay. 403 00:21:58,318 --> 00:21:59,778 It's just weird as a human being 404 00:21:59,778 --> 00:22:01,905 to be in a position where you feel like 405 00:22:01,905 --> 00:22:04,783 you have zero hope for anything anymore. 406 00:22:05,867 --> 00:22:07,327 I just didn't know how to respond, 407 00:22:07,327 --> 00:22:09,120 we didn't know how to react. 408 00:22:09,120 --> 00:22:11,373 Within hours, on the first night, 409 00:22:11,373 --> 00:22:13,458 I remember getting phone calls from reporters, 410 00:22:13,458 --> 00:22:15,001 and so I turned my phone off. 411 00:22:16,628 --> 00:22:17,962 But I keep getting calls. 412 00:22:17,962 --> 00:22:21,758 And so, I decided that they weren't going to stop 413 00:22:21,758 --> 00:22:23,802 until they found somebody to talk to. 414 00:22:23,802 --> 00:22:26,638 And so, I decided that the best thing to do 415 00:22:26,638 --> 00:22:28,640 was for me to give a statement, 416 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,310 because I figured if I gave them something 417 00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:34,187 that they could chew on for a while, 418 00:22:34,187 --> 00:22:35,480 then they would leave us alone. 419 00:22:43,738 --> 00:22:45,198 The shooting was on Friday. 420 00:22:45,198 --> 00:22:47,033 Saturday evening, I gave the statement. 421 00:22:50,662 --> 00:22:52,414 I'd never done something like this. 422 00:22:52,414 --> 00:22:53,873 All these bright lights are on me, 423 00:22:53,873 --> 00:22:54,874 and I can't see anybody, 424 00:22:54,874 --> 00:22:57,210 and I just was kind of confused and nervous, 425 00:22:57,210 --> 00:22:59,629 and just kind of gave this laugh, like, 426 00:22:59,629 --> 00:23:01,089 "I don't know what to do here." 427 00:23:05,135 --> 00:23:06,302 So, I've never done this before. 428 00:23:06,302 --> 00:23:07,512 Do you guys just want me to start? 429 00:23:07,512 --> 00:23:09,347 -Yeah. - Okay. 430 00:23:21,151 --> 00:23:22,485 So, my name's Robbie Parker. 431 00:23:24,195 --> 00:23:29,826 My family is one of the families that lost a child yesterday 432 00:23:29,826 --> 00:23:32,412 in the Sandy Hook Elementary School shootings 433 00:23:32,412 --> 00:23:33,663 here in Connecticut. 434 00:23:33,663 --> 00:23:36,374 I just wanted to share about who my daughter was. 435 00:23:36,374 --> 00:23:39,961 I had prepared something that I wanted to share, 436 00:23:39,961 --> 00:23:42,881 and so... I shared it. 437 00:23:44,632 --> 00:23:48,803 Emilie was bright, creative, and very loving. 438 00:23:48,803 --> 00:23:51,014 Emilie was always willing to try new things, 439 00:23:51,931 --> 00:23:52,932 other than food. 440 00:23:54,017 --> 00:23:56,186 There was no way I could have done that. 441 00:23:56,186 --> 00:23:58,772 It was really hard for him to do that. 442 00:23:58,772 --> 00:24:03,902 And he did it because of her, because he was her father. 443 00:24:05,695 --> 00:24:07,322 He wanted the world to know 444 00:24:07,322 --> 00:24:09,783 that she was not just this victim, 445 00:24:09,783 --> 00:24:12,243 that she was this amazing kid. 446 00:24:15,872 --> 00:24:19,084 That's when our world turned upside down again. 447 00:24:20,293 --> 00:24:22,003 We're going to, um... 448 00:24:23,421 --> 00:24:26,257 play a clip from a CNN press conference 449 00:24:26,257 --> 00:24:27,759 with Robbie Parker. 450 00:24:27,759 --> 00:24:30,428 It started... Yeah, it started less than 451 00:24:30,428 --> 00:24:31,888 48 hours after the shooting, 452 00:24:31,888 --> 00:24:35,725 and then it just grew exponentially from there. 453 00:24:37,018 --> 00:24:39,562 And then he walks up like he's an actor, 454 00:24:39,562 --> 00:24:41,690 and then breaks down on camera. 455 00:24:42,732 --> 00:24:44,943 I mean, it's like, "Ha ha ha, yeah, ha. 456 00:24:44,943 --> 00:24:48,071 Oh, I read this card? Okay." 457 00:24:48,071 --> 00:24:51,741 I mean, it's like, "Whoa! Whoa!" 458 00:24:51,741 --> 00:24:54,953 He does look like a soap opera actor. 459 00:24:58,832 --> 00:25:00,667 So, he's really smiling and looks happy, 460 00:25:00,667 --> 00:25:02,127 and all of a sudden, suddenly... 461 00:25:04,045 --> 00:25:05,463 It looks totally fake. 462 00:25:05,463 --> 00:25:06,756 This video is unbelievable. 463 00:25:06,756 --> 00:25:08,758 We're just gonna post the video... 464 00:25:09,634 --> 00:25:10,969 and let you decide what you think. 465 00:25:10,969 --> 00:25:14,055 He needs to-- I mean, maybe he should explain it to us. 466 00:25:14,055 --> 00:25:15,974 We need to analyze all these videos now. 467 00:25:15,974 --> 00:25:17,517 Heaven help us, ladies and gentlemen. 468 00:25:17,517 --> 00:25:18,727 Heaven help us. 469 00:25:18,727 --> 00:25:20,645 I've never seen anything like that. 470 00:25:22,605 --> 00:25:25,025 It got vile very, very quickly. 471 00:25:26,735 --> 00:25:30,864 Emilie's Memorial Facebook page became inundated. 472 00:25:30,864 --> 00:25:32,574 Like, "Fuck you, motherfucker." 473 00:25:32,574 --> 00:25:35,160 And "I have your email, I know where you live. 474 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,244 I have a gun." 475 00:25:37,162 --> 00:25:38,455 We would get emails. 476 00:25:38,455 --> 00:25:41,332 We would get letters sent to our home, 477 00:25:41,332 --> 00:25:42,751 threatening us. 478 00:25:43,835 --> 00:25:47,422 You know, just saying all sorts of horrible things. 479 00:25:47,422 --> 00:25:50,175 You know, that Emilie was a whore, 480 00:25:50,175 --> 00:25:52,719 that Emilie was alive. 481 00:25:52,719 --> 00:25:55,847 Totally stomped on and trashed 482 00:25:55,847 --> 00:25:57,349 the memory of the six-year-old girl 483 00:25:57,349 --> 00:26:01,269 who had done nothing in her life to deserve any of that. 484 00:26:04,356 --> 00:26:06,024 You know, I would see it and I would just delete it, 485 00:26:06,024 --> 00:26:07,567 I would see it and I would delete it, 486 00:26:07,567 --> 00:26:09,652 because I didn't want to expose myself to it. 487 00:26:11,363 --> 00:26:13,990 It was everywhere. 488 00:26:15,283 --> 00:26:18,787 Websites set up to destroy him. 489 00:26:19,371 --> 00:26:22,207 "Liar. Actor." 490 00:26:22,207 --> 00:26:26,044 I remember getting on YouTube, it wouldn't stop. 491 00:26:26,044 --> 00:26:29,089 I could scroll and scroll and just keep scrolling, 492 00:26:29,089 --> 00:26:32,884 video after video after video of him just being mocked. 493 00:26:34,302 --> 00:26:39,724 It got to the point where it was controlling my life in a way. 494 00:26:39,724 --> 00:26:42,394 You got parents laughing, going "Ha ha ha! Watch this!" 495 00:26:42,394 --> 00:26:43,561 and then going... 496 00:26:43,561 --> 00:26:45,897 Method acting, going... 497 00:26:45,897 --> 00:26:48,650 "Oh, my child!" 498 00:26:48,650 --> 00:26:51,027 I mean, it's just ridiculous. 499 00:26:54,948 --> 00:26:56,616 I remember the funeral. 500 00:26:58,493 --> 00:27:00,870 I went into a state of shock. 501 00:27:00,870 --> 00:27:03,415 I was just on autopilot. 502 00:27:03,415 --> 00:27:06,918 On Monday, there was a funeral for six-year-old Noah Pozner. 503 00:27:06,918 --> 00:27:09,462 I spoke with Noah's mother, Veronique Pozner, 504 00:27:09,462 --> 00:27:10,714 just a short time ago... 505 00:27:10,714 --> 00:27:13,299 I know that I did an interview 506 00:27:13,299 --> 00:27:14,509 with Anderson Cooper 507 00:27:14,509 --> 00:27:17,929 because it was the autopilot part of me 508 00:27:17,929 --> 00:27:21,349 that kind of wanted to convey what just happened. 509 00:27:21,349 --> 00:27:23,476 I'm grieving, that's all. 510 00:27:23,476 --> 00:27:25,061 - Like we all are. - Yeah. 511 00:27:25,061 --> 00:27:26,730 - I wish you strength... - Thank you. 512 00:27:26,730 --> 00:27:28,356 - ...and peace in the days ahead. - Thank you. 513 00:27:28,356 --> 00:27:31,609 - I know it's hard. Yeah. - Thank you. I'm going to need it. Thank you. 514 00:27:31,609 --> 00:27:33,778 Now, a lot of the tens of millions 515 00:27:33,778 --> 00:27:35,655 of video views on YouTube 516 00:27:35,655 --> 00:27:40,118 concerning the Sandy Hook hoax 517 00:27:40,785 --> 00:27:42,537 surround CNN. 518 00:27:43,955 --> 00:27:47,792 I saw this footage where Anderson Cooper turns. 519 00:27:47,792 --> 00:27:50,670 He's supposedly there at Sandy Hook 520 00:27:50,670 --> 00:27:52,255 in front of the memorial, 521 00:27:52,255 --> 00:27:54,799 and his whole forehead and nose blurs out. 522 00:27:54,799 --> 00:27:57,552 I've been working with blue screen for 17 years. 523 00:27:57,552 --> 00:27:58,887 I know what it looks like. 524 00:27:58,887 --> 00:28:01,139 It's clearly blue screen. 525 00:28:01,139 --> 00:28:04,142 Somehow, that was a proof that we were not actually 526 00:28:04,142 --> 00:28:07,437 at that locale and that image of the town hall 527 00:28:07,437 --> 00:28:09,689 was being artificially projected. 528 00:28:09,689 --> 00:28:12,484 But the fact that this whole thing could be staged, 529 00:28:12,484 --> 00:28:14,444 it's just mind-blowing. 530 00:28:14,444 --> 00:28:18,323 It was a digital motion glitch in the video, 531 00:28:18,323 --> 00:28:21,951 and that glitch doesn't exist in the original video. 532 00:28:21,951 --> 00:28:25,830 That only exists in the hoaxer version of the video. 533 00:28:30,502 --> 00:28:31,711 Something though, 534 00:28:31,711 --> 00:28:34,130 is really starting to get suspicious here. 535 00:28:34,130 --> 00:28:37,509 I mean, I'm sick of it always being a conspiracy. 536 00:28:37,509 --> 00:28:42,555 He rehashed my "green screen" video 537 00:28:42,555 --> 00:28:45,934 for over five years, relentlessly. 538 00:28:45,934 --> 00:28:47,602 And you've got the green screens 539 00:28:47,602 --> 00:28:50,188 with Anderson Cooper's nose disappearing, 540 00:28:50,188 --> 00:28:53,149 you've just-- it just goes on and on, on and on. 541 00:28:53,149 --> 00:28:56,945 Infowars were vilifying the parents. 542 00:28:56,945 --> 00:28:59,531 Anything that they can point their finger at 543 00:28:59,531 --> 00:29:02,033 to support their thesis. 544 00:29:02,033 --> 00:29:05,036 So, Wolfgang, recap the basic anomalies 545 00:29:05,036 --> 00:29:07,789 and then give us what happened in your new investigation. 546 00:29:07,789 --> 00:29:09,332 Thank you, Wolfgang, for joining us. 547 00:29:09,332 --> 00:29:10,709 And at that point, 548 00:29:10,709 --> 00:29:13,670 Infowars had prompted up Wolfgang Halbig 549 00:29:13,670 --> 00:29:16,965 as this former law enforcement person 550 00:29:16,965 --> 00:29:20,385 who has experience with school safety, 551 00:29:20,385 --> 00:29:25,682 being this ultimate credible authority on the topic. 552 00:29:25,682 --> 00:29:27,600 I think something would be wrong with us 553 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,893 not to question all these, 554 00:29:28,893 --> 00:29:31,896 and then you look at the green screens 555 00:29:31,896 --> 00:29:35,734 and the-- and just the lies and the fake videos and... 556 00:29:35,734 --> 00:29:38,403 And Halbig was denying the tragedy. 557 00:29:40,363 --> 00:29:41,865 Saying it did not happen. 558 00:29:49,664 --> 00:29:51,499 This is Leonard Pozner, 559 00:29:51,499 --> 00:29:54,044 who's playing the role of a parent 560 00:29:54,044 --> 00:29:56,338 who lost a child at Sandy Hook. 561 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,721 There's Robbie Parker. Now there is Emilie. 562 00:30:04,721 --> 00:30:07,474 I think Emilie is alive and well, doing good. 563 00:30:09,184 --> 00:30:14,439 Sandy Hook, it's an illusion. It was not real. 564 00:30:15,565 --> 00:30:18,943 The first thing is, why no trauma helicopters? 565 00:30:19,944 --> 00:30:23,323 Think about it, innocent children shot, 566 00:30:23,740 --> 00:30:25,116 teachers shot. 567 00:30:25,116 --> 00:30:28,953 And no trauma helicopters respond? 568 00:30:28,953 --> 00:30:30,872 You know, doctors can be on board, 569 00:30:30,872 --> 00:30:33,958 lifesaving, time of the essence. 570 00:30:33,958 --> 00:30:38,755 And then, for us to learn that they never allowed 571 00:30:38,755 --> 00:30:42,425 any paramedics or EMTs inside the school? 572 00:30:42,425 --> 00:30:43,885 What the hell is that? 573 00:30:43,885 --> 00:30:50,308 They were not allowed inside that school, ever. Ever! 574 00:30:50,308 --> 00:30:52,310 - ♪ Since the prehistoric ages ♪ 575 00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:53,978 ♪ And the days Of ancient Greece... ♪ 576 00:30:53,978 --> 00:30:55,980 Wolfgang W. Halbig. 577 00:30:55,980 --> 00:30:57,232 Then I got a phone call. 578 00:30:57,232 --> 00:30:59,150 "Alex Jones would like to talk to you." 579 00:30:59,150 --> 00:31:01,736 I think he was trying to get me to validate 580 00:31:01,736 --> 00:31:03,154 what his thoughts were. 581 00:31:03,154 --> 00:31:06,032 You know, he called me back three more times, you know. 582 00:31:06,032 --> 00:31:08,868 They're taking the guns away from people in Connecticut, 583 00:31:08,868 --> 00:31:11,329 and they're using Sandy Hook as a nexus. 584 00:31:11,329 --> 00:31:14,332 It's so obvious they're using it to disarm us. 585 00:31:14,332 --> 00:31:18,003 They admit it. And it's just a total hoax. 586 00:31:18,003 --> 00:31:19,295 Oh, he hammered it. 587 00:31:19,295 --> 00:31:21,756 He was, you know. He said, you know, 588 00:31:21,756 --> 00:31:24,009 "Fake actors, green screen." 589 00:31:24,009 --> 00:31:27,012 Oh, yeah, it was a vicious attack, you know. 590 00:31:27,012 --> 00:31:29,347 Uh, he said "Nobody died at Sandy Hook." 591 00:31:29,347 --> 00:31:30,932 See, I never said that. 592 00:31:30,932 --> 00:31:32,851 You're really sure, though, nobody died, 593 00:31:32,851 --> 00:31:34,185 it was a total cut-out? 594 00:31:34,185 --> 00:31:37,022 I'm telling you, nobody died. 595 00:31:37,856 --> 00:31:39,149 For people to be saying, 596 00:31:39,149 --> 00:31:40,525 "This didn't happen. It was a hoax," 597 00:31:40,525 --> 00:31:42,902 and then you start seeing all the crazy things, 598 00:31:42,902 --> 00:31:45,196 and it was just... 599 00:31:45,196 --> 00:31:47,824 What do you mean this didn't happen? 600 00:31:47,824 --> 00:31:49,868 When I woke up, that's when I realized 601 00:31:49,868 --> 00:31:51,369 there were no trauma helicopters... 602 00:31:51,369 --> 00:31:52,746 You've got a bunch of kids shot, 603 00:31:52,746 --> 00:31:55,999 you don't even ask questions. Default helicopters launch. 604 00:31:55,999 --> 00:31:58,168 They didn't seem to accept logic. 605 00:31:58,168 --> 00:32:00,045 'Cause if you then answered a question, 606 00:32:00,045 --> 00:32:04,382 "Well, why this? Why weren't people airlifted 607 00:32:04,382 --> 00:32:05,633 to emergency rooms?" 608 00:32:05,633 --> 00:32:07,052 "Well, because they were all dead." 609 00:32:07,052 --> 00:32:11,139 Who has a 99.9 percent kill rate? 610 00:32:11,139 --> 00:32:15,185 There isn't an FBI agent, there isn't a Navy SEAL 611 00:32:15,185 --> 00:32:18,146 that's that good of a shot within eight minutes. 612 00:32:18,146 --> 00:32:21,775 You don't get 99.99 kill rates. 613 00:32:21,775 --> 00:32:23,985 It's just incredibly hard to do. 614 00:32:23,985 --> 00:32:26,863 "How could, you know, he have such a fantastic 615 00:32:26,863 --> 00:32:29,074 shooting accuracy that everyone died?" 616 00:32:29,074 --> 00:32:33,161 I don't know, you shove 15 kids into a three-foot bathroom, 617 00:32:33,161 --> 00:32:35,413 you're probably gonna have really good accuracy. 618 00:32:35,413 --> 00:32:37,207 This is so well planned, 619 00:32:37,207 --> 00:32:39,084 two, two and a half years, 620 00:32:39,084 --> 00:32:42,087 millions of dollars invested. Think about it, 621 00:32:42,087 --> 00:32:45,298 you had to get the entire community involved. 622 00:32:46,383 --> 00:32:47,258 Really? 623 00:32:47,258 --> 00:32:52,263 So a community of 28,000 people were in on this? 624 00:32:52,263 --> 00:32:55,266 That we were all pretending, and all the pictures 625 00:32:55,266 --> 00:32:57,769 and the experiences of the school beforehand, 626 00:32:58,728 --> 00:33:00,939 we fabricated this for years? 627 00:33:00,939 --> 00:33:04,317 It's just-- It's totally ridiculous. 628 00:33:04,317 --> 00:33:06,820 And yet, you know, here we are all these years later, 629 00:33:06,820 --> 00:33:08,113 and it still persists. 630 00:33:08,113 --> 00:33:09,489 And I'm gonna tell you what, 631 00:33:09,489 --> 00:33:12,659 somebody will break, and we're gonna break the story. 632 00:33:12,659 --> 00:33:14,160 And we need your help, 633 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:15,829 we gotta be able to go to Newtown. 634 00:33:15,829 --> 00:33:17,205 Absolutely. 635 00:33:17,205 --> 00:33:20,375 We want to send reporters up there, Wolfgang, with you. 636 00:33:21,376 --> 00:33:23,420 In the spring of 2015... 637 00:33:24,295 --> 00:33:26,214 ...you sent this man to go 638 00:33:26,214 --> 00:33:28,633 badger and yell obscenities at Sandy Hook residents, 639 00:33:28,633 --> 00:33:31,636 calling people who were involved in Sandy Hook 640 00:33:31,636 --> 00:33:35,140 "crooked, corrupt, piece of shit, motherfuckers" 641 00:33:35,140 --> 00:33:37,183 - You know who that is, right? -Yes. 642 00:33:37,183 --> 00:33:39,728 -Okay, that's Mr. Bidondi. -Yes. 643 00:33:39,728 --> 00:33:43,314 You sent him to go cover Wolfgang Halbig, correct? 644 00:33:44,065 --> 00:33:45,400 I don't remember that. 645 00:33:46,151 --> 00:33:48,111 Dan Bidondi for infowars.com, 646 00:33:48,111 --> 00:33:50,238 and we're at the city of Newtown, Connecticut. 647 00:33:50,238 --> 00:33:52,449 They're having a hearing on the Sandy Hook incident. 648 00:33:52,449 --> 00:33:55,493 And with me is Wolfgang Halbig. How are you doing, sir? 649 00:33:55,493 --> 00:33:58,121 Oh, great. Thanks for seeing me again. 650 00:33:58,121 --> 00:34:00,957 I run different than normal reporters 651 00:34:00,957 --> 00:34:02,500 because what I do is I go out there 652 00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:03,585 and get the truth out. 653 00:34:03,585 --> 00:34:06,338 That's one reason why I got my job with Infowars. 654 00:34:06,338 --> 00:34:08,673 Okay, I started working for infowars.com. 655 00:34:08,673 --> 00:34:10,759 No, you're a hero to many of us. God bless you. 656 00:34:10,759 --> 00:34:12,344 No, no, all of us. 657 00:34:12,344 --> 00:34:13,970 We need to have the truth. Thank you. 658 00:34:13,970 --> 00:34:15,388 At least we could say we stood up, 659 00:34:15,388 --> 00:34:16,848 and we did something. You know what I mean? 660 00:34:16,848 --> 00:34:18,350 And that's the same drive 661 00:34:18,350 --> 00:34:20,643 that everybody at infowars.com has. 662 00:34:20,643 --> 00:34:23,605 And this is Dan Bidondi for the Infowars Nightly News. 663 00:34:27,108 --> 00:34:29,319 It's weird when you're in Sandy Hook. 664 00:34:30,278 --> 00:34:32,697 Something is not right in this town. 665 00:34:32,697 --> 00:34:34,366 And, really, you can feel it. 666 00:34:34,366 --> 00:34:35,992 I'm telling you to get out of here. 667 00:34:35,992 --> 00:34:37,035 Get the fuck out. 668 00:34:37,035 --> 00:34:38,203 Hey, you touch me again... 669 00:34:38,203 --> 00:34:40,663 I wanted to meet the fire chief. 670 00:34:40,663 --> 00:34:44,626 He's a huge player in the Sandy Hook incident. 671 00:34:44,626 --> 00:34:46,544 - Don't touch him, Wolf. - Get out of here! 672 00:34:46,544 --> 00:34:48,338 Chief, chief you gotta get him out of my face. 673 00:34:48,338 --> 00:34:51,591 He's no fucking chief. Get the fuck out of here. 674 00:34:51,591 --> 00:34:54,386 - I feel sorry for you. -Fuck you. 675 00:34:54,386 --> 00:34:56,638 I feel sorry for you. Go to hell. 676 00:34:58,390 --> 00:35:00,558 This is your volunteer fire department 677 00:35:00,558 --> 00:35:04,396 here at Sandy Hook to save the children. 678 00:35:04,896 --> 00:35:06,147 It's just ugly. 679 00:35:06,147 --> 00:35:07,399 You are the board member, 680 00:35:07,399 --> 00:35:09,234 you are the leaders of this community, 681 00:35:09,234 --> 00:35:11,111 you are the superintendent. 682 00:35:11,111 --> 00:35:13,738 I've appeared in front of the school board members 683 00:35:13,738 --> 00:35:18,743 and asked the question, "Why no trauma helicopters?" 684 00:35:20,036 --> 00:35:22,372 Why no trauma helicopters? 685 00:35:23,289 --> 00:35:25,125 Why would you not let paramedics-- 686 00:35:25,125 --> 00:35:27,168 Board members, these are your children... 687 00:35:27,168 --> 00:35:29,421 Not one of them responded. 688 00:35:29,421 --> 00:35:31,589 They're hiding something. 689 00:35:31,589 --> 00:35:34,426 People in America deserve the truth. 690 00:35:35,635 --> 00:35:38,221 Wolfgang Halbig created a lot of hurt 691 00:35:38,221 --> 00:35:40,098 and a lot of harm for people. 692 00:35:40,098 --> 00:35:42,517 We want answers. We want truth. 693 00:35:42,517 --> 00:35:44,686 Listening and watching what he's doing, 694 00:35:44,686 --> 00:35:47,772 I'm realizing that he's being energized 695 00:35:47,772 --> 00:35:49,232 by Alex Jones. 696 00:35:49,232 --> 00:35:52,277 And that the two of them fed each other's psychosis. 697 00:35:52,277 --> 00:35:54,654 Something is rotten here. 698 00:35:54,654 --> 00:35:56,197 What's your bottom line? 699 00:35:56,197 --> 00:35:58,366 What do you think's happening here? 700 00:35:58,366 --> 00:36:01,077 Well, until they answer those questions, 701 00:36:01,077 --> 00:36:04,289 I can tell you children did not die. 702 00:36:04,289 --> 00:36:05,790 Teachers did not die. 703 00:36:05,790 --> 00:36:08,460 It just could not have happened. 704 00:36:10,211 --> 00:36:11,629 He was so persistent. 705 00:36:11,629 --> 00:36:13,298 There goes Mr. Frank. 706 00:36:13,298 --> 00:36:15,800 How does it feel covering up Sandy Hook, criminal? 707 00:36:17,385 --> 00:36:20,597 Well, Monte Frank was the attorney representing 708 00:36:20,597 --> 00:36:22,015 the town of Newtown. 709 00:36:22,015 --> 00:36:24,517 When somebody asks for public records, 710 00:36:24,517 --> 00:36:26,853 you should honor their request. 711 00:36:26,853 --> 00:36:29,731 And they denied me at every step. 712 00:36:29,731 --> 00:36:31,066 Good morning, Monte Frank, 713 00:36:31,066 --> 00:36:33,610 representing the town of Newtown. 714 00:36:33,610 --> 00:36:36,738 We started getting inundated with 715 00:36:36,738 --> 00:36:40,492 Freedom of Information requests from Wolfgang Halbig. 716 00:36:40,492 --> 00:36:43,328 - Did I read that correctly? -Yeah, absolutely. 717 00:36:43,328 --> 00:36:48,416 Both the tone and the type of requests became more and more 718 00:36:48,416 --> 00:36:51,211 menacing and harassing. 719 00:36:51,211 --> 00:36:55,006 Never have met a liar like this man here. 720 00:36:56,424 --> 00:36:57,509 Hey, Attorney Frank, 721 00:36:57,509 --> 00:36:59,386 are you satisfied with the decision? 722 00:37:00,637 --> 00:37:02,180 Of course, he's not going to answer. 723 00:37:02,180 --> 00:37:03,682 There goes corruption right there. 724 00:37:03,682 --> 00:37:06,434 Guess what there, Mr. Frank, what do you think? 725 00:37:06,434 --> 00:37:08,561 You're protecting all of those people? 726 00:37:08,561 --> 00:37:12,941 It took every ounce of energy that I had, 727 00:37:12,941 --> 00:37:15,026 and every bit of restraint, 728 00:37:15,026 --> 00:37:18,113 just to keep walking and not comment. 729 00:37:18,113 --> 00:37:20,073 You guys trying to cover up Sandy Hook? 730 00:37:20,073 --> 00:37:21,783 You know the information's gonna come out. 731 00:37:21,783 --> 00:37:22,909 You know that, right? 732 00:37:22,909 --> 00:37:24,536 You people are going to jail. 733 00:37:24,536 --> 00:37:27,372 We became increasingly anxious. 734 00:37:27,372 --> 00:37:29,290 It's like death by a thousand cuts. 735 00:37:29,290 --> 00:37:31,209 It's a drip, drip, drip 736 00:37:31,209 --> 00:37:33,294 of "we're not going to let you heal, 737 00:37:33,294 --> 00:37:36,006 we're going to keep at you because we think our lies 738 00:37:36,006 --> 00:37:37,799 are more powerful than your truth." 739 00:37:37,799 --> 00:37:39,759 The Sandy Hook truth is coming out. 740 00:37:39,759 --> 00:37:40,969 You people going to jail. 741 00:37:40,969 --> 00:37:43,638 You can smile all you want. You're going to jail for fraud. 742 00:37:43,638 --> 00:37:44,514 Plain and simple. 743 00:37:44,514 --> 00:37:46,558 It went on for many, many years. 744 00:37:46,558 --> 00:37:48,184 If you've got nothing to hide, then speak with us. 745 00:37:48,184 --> 00:37:51,229 Take a moment to speak with us. You're a public official. 746 00:37:51,229 --> 00:37:53,023 But make no mistake about it, 747 00:37:53,023 --> 00:37:54,399 you will be going to jail... 748 00:37:54,399 --> 00:37:57,569 I did not realize the extent of their reach 749 00:37:57,569 --> 00:37:59,863 and the power of their reach. 750 00:37:59,863 --> 00:38:02,866 And social media was exploding. 751 00:38:02,866 --> 00:38:05,243 YouTube, Facebook, Twitter. 752 00:38:05,243 --> 00:38:07,787 And so this attack on facts 753 00:38:07,787 --> 00:38:11,750 would become part of... I wouldn't say mainstream, 754 00:38:11,750 --> 00:38:15,962 but pretty damn close to what is mainstream America now. 755 00:38:19,758 --> 00:38:22,469 I just hope and pray that I'm not wrong. 756 00:38:24,763 --> 00:38:27,849 If I'm that wrong, if I'm that wrong, 757 00:38:27,849 --> 00:38:29,267 and if I've hurt people, 758 00:38:29,267 --> 00:38:31,561 probably I need to go to a mental hospital. 759 00:38:32,604 --> 00:38:35,357 Now look at this one here, this is unbelievable. 760 00:38:35,357 --> 00:38:37,692 Hockley. See her? 761 00:38:37,692 --> 00:38:39,486 There's no point arguing with them. 762 00:38:39,486 --> 00:38:40,945 That I've learned the hard way. 763 00:38:40,945 --> 00:38:43,782 No matter what you do, they're never gonna believe. 764 00:38:43,782 --> 00:38:46,117 They say, "Show us the death certificates." 765 00:38:46,117 --> 00:38:47,327 "Oh, that's a forgery." 766 00:38:47,327 --> 00:38:49,621 "Show us the pictures." "Oh, that's a forg--" 767 00:38:49,621 --> 00:38:51,706 "Show us proof that your kid ever existed." 768 00:38:51,706 --> 00:38:56,086 "Oh, you just made that up." And you can't... you can't win. 769 00:38:59,756 --> 00:39:02,884 Most people did think that if it was just ignored, 770 00:39:02,884 --> 00:39:05,970 next time they'd look for it, it wouldn't be there. 771 00:39:05,970 --> 00:39:07,639 And I didn't have that opinion. 772 00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:10,433 It was obvious to me that this was on a trajectory, 773 00:39:10,433 --> 00:39:12,352 and it was only getting worse. 774 00:39:14,646 --> 00:39:20,694 In 2014, I was ready to take on this hoaxer phenomenon 775 00:39:20,694 --> 00:39:23,571 relating to the tragedy of my son. 776 00:39:24,656 --> 00:39:27,409 My first phase was to make myself available 777 00:39:27,409 --> 00:39:29,494 and communicate with them. 778 00:39:29,494 --> 00:39:31,413 And Kelley Watt was one of the people 779 00:39:31,413 --> 00:39:32,664 that I came across. 780 00:39:32,664 --> 00:39:36,793 So we had this dialogue, you know, we talked a lot 781 00:39:36,793 --> 00:39:38,962 for about a six-month period of time. 782 00:39:38,962 --> 00:39:41,798 I'm as firm in my belief that it didn't happen 783 00:39:41,798 --> 00:39:43,466 as Lenny Pozner is-- 784 00:39:43,466 --> 00:39:46,136 that he's convinced that he had a son who passed away. 785 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,308 You just-- This is just so insane. 786 00:39:52,308 --> 00:39:54,352 I just can't believe that anybody believes it. 787 00:39:54,352 --> 00:39:56,479 I really have a hard time 788 00:39:56,479 --> 00:39:59,607 believing that people actually believe this. 789 00:39:59,607 --> 00:40:04,237 She communicated with all of these hoax content creators 790 00:40:04,237 --> 00:40:06,406 like Wolfgang Halbig. 791 00:40:06,406 --> 00:40:09,743 And she inserted herself in the middle of all of this. 792 00:40:09,743 --> 00:40:11,828 When I heard that these children had been shot, 793 00:40:11,828 --> 00:40:14,956 one of the first things I did because of my cleaning business, 794 00:40:14,956 --> 00:40:19,419 I called the Environmental Protection Agency of Connecticut 795 00:40:19,419 --> 00:40:21,254 and said, "Who cleaned up the blood?" 796 00:40:21,254 --> 00:40:25,508 And it was like, "What blood?" 797 00:40:25,508 --> 00:40:29,971 I'm like, "Twenty-six people were murdered. That blood." 798 00:40:29,971 --> 00:40:33,933 And he said, "Are you one of these conspiracy theorists?" 799 00:40:33,933 --> 00:40:36,561 And he said, "I stepped over those dead babies." 800 00:40:37,479 --> 00:40:39,147 To which I replied, "No, you did not. 801 00:40:40,231 --> 00:40:41,566 No, you did not." 802 00:40:48,073 --> 00:40:50,950 This is the email that Kelley Watt had sent. 803 00:40:50,950 --> 00:40:53,370 When I'd asked her to contact Wolfgang Halbig 804 00:40:53,370 --> 00:40:54,746 to see if he'll talk to me. 805 00:40:54,746 --> 00:40:57,165 And the response that I got from Kelley is that 806 00:40:57,165 --> 00:41:00,001 he won't speak to me until I exhume Noah's body. 807 00:41:01,378 --> 00:41:03,338 I watched a lot of true crime, 808 00:41:03,338 --> 00:41:05,507 and they exhume bodies all the time. 809 00:41:05,507 --> 00:41:07,092 It's not unusual. 810 00:41:08,426 --> 00:41:09,636 That's all you can do. 811 00:41:09,636 --> 00:41:12,889 If you really want to prove that this didn't happen, 812 00:41:12,889 --> 00:41:16,142 what else can you do but to have the bodies exhumed? 813 00:41:17,268 --> 00:41:18,520 That's when I realized that, 814 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:19,646 you know, these people, 815 00:41:19,646 --> 00:41:21,940 they've got their own party going on, and... 816 00:41:22,774 --> 00:41:25,276 and uh, and I'm not invited, so. 817 00:41:28,947 --> 00:41:31,783 After that phase lacked any success, 818 00:41:31,783 --> 00:41:35,412 I shifted to removing content. 819 00:41:35,412 --> 00:41:37,622 Anyone that was going after Noah, 820 00:41:37,622 --> 00:41:39,874 I was having their content removed. 821 00:41:39,874 --> 00:41:41,042 YouTube videos. 822 00:41:42,043 --> 00:41:44,045 Anything that was denying reality. 823 00:41:45,296 --> 00:41:49,968 The hoax content outnumbered any factual information. 824 00:41:49,968 --> 00:41:52,929 If you did a Google search, or a search on YouTube, 825 00:41:52,929 --> 00:41:56,182 for the Sandy Hook shooting, five out of six results 826 00:41:56,182 --> 00:41:58,685 would have been hoax material. 827 00:41:58,685 --> 00:42:00,311 That's what people were clicking on 828 00:42:00,311 --> 00:42:03,148 so that's all that people are going to be exposed to. 829 00:42:05,066 --> 00:42:06,109 It was a contagion. 830 00:42:06,109 --> 00:42:10,822 It was going viral, spreading to billions of people. 831 00:42:13,867 --> 00:42:16,244 Platforms at that point wouldn't remove content 832 00:42:16,244 --> 00:42:17,954 based on their own policies. 833 00:42:17,954 --> 00:42:19,998 Other than copyright. 834 00:42:19,998 --> 00:42:23,585 That's very black and white in the hosting world. 835 00:42:23,585 --> 00:42:26,921 I was persistent in reporting material. 836 00:42:26,921 --> 00:42:29,841 Going after a particular channel and finding anything 837 00:42:29,841 --> 00:42:32,927 that violated privacy or copyright. 838 00:42:33,428 --> 00:42:34,637 Noah Pozner, 839 00:42:34,637 --> 00:42:36,306 one of the children supposedly killed 840 00:42:36,306 --> 00:42:37,932 in the December 2012 841 00:42:37,932 --> 00:42:40,810 Sandy Hook school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut. 842 00:42:40,810 --> 00:42:42,937 So if they were using images of Noah, 843 00:42:42,937 --> 00:42:45,899 I was able to get that content taken down 844 00:42:45,899 --> 00:42:48,401 and that would bring channels down. 845 00:42:48,401 --> 00:42:50,528 You got green screen with Anderson Cooper, 846 00:42:50,528 --> 00:42:52,697 and then his nose disappears. 847 00:42:52,697 --> 00:42:54,032 It's-- it's not real. 848 00:42:54,032 --> 00:42:56,868 Even that video, you know, there were probably 849 00:42:56,868 --> 00:43:00,038 hundreds of that video, maybe thousands of it. 850 00:43:00,038 --> 00:43:03,249 All of that had to be taken down, one by one. 851 00:43:05,418 --> 00:43:07,045 And it was very hard to do. 852 00:43:07,045 --> 00:43:10,006 And there was real... real warfare going on, 853 00:43:10,006 --> 00:43:12,759 and a real battle was taking place. 854 00:43:14,928 --> 00:43:16,721 They were losing their content. 855 00:43:18,223 --> 00:43:21,142 It's like their playground, and if you take their toys away, 856 00:43:21,142 --> 00:43:23,645 they just become enraged. 857 00:43:24,896 --> 00:43:28,149 Our entire media operation and your First Amendment, 858 00:43:28,149 --> 00:43:31,778 my First Amendment, is under massive attack. 859 00:43:31,778 --> 00:43:35,699 By 2015 he was accusing me of taking away his free speech 860 00:43:35,699 --> 00:43:37,367 and crippling his YouTube channel. 861 00:43:37,367 --> 00:43:41,913 This guy comes and says that we violated their copyright 862 00:43:41,913 --> 00:43:46,626 to trigger the suspension of the Alex Jones channel. 863 00:43:46,626 --> 00:43:49,087 Infowars published my name 864 00:43:49,087 --> 00:43:51,256 before his millions of listeners. 865 00:43:53,717 --> 00:43:58,388 This is amazing. The claimant is Lenny Pozner, 866 00:43:58,388 --> 00:44:02,142 HONRnetwork at gmail.com. 867 00:44:02,142 --> 00:44:03,977 What do you think of us being censored? 868 00:44:03,977 --> 00:44:05,562 What's been happening to you? 869 00:44:05,562 --> 00:44:07,272 I can tell you lots about Lenny. 870 00:44:07,272 --> 00:44:10,608 Lenny, if you're listening, your day is coming, my friend. 871 00:44:10,608 --> 00:44:14,779 It is coming. Go after him, Alex. Crush him. 872 00:44:14,779 --> 00:44:17,782 After that came Lucy Richards. 873 00:44:17,782 --> 00:44:19,534 You're going to die, 874 00:44:19,534 --> 00:44:20,952 you motherfucking nigger. 875 00:44:20,952 --> 00:44:25,957 Kike, Jew bastard. Cunt. You're going to die. 876 00:44:25,957 --> 00:44:28,626 She made death threats. She became triggered 877 00:44:28,626 --> 00:44:32,964 by something she heard on Infowars. 878 00:44:32,964 --> 00:44:37,969 She was sentenced to six months in federal prison. 879 00:44:37,969 --> 00:44:42,265 Part of her consequence was that she would no longer 880 00:44:42,265 --> 00:44:43,641 listen to Alex Jones. 881 00:44:43,641 --> 00:44:47,103 So that was directly ordered by the court. 882 00:44:48,980 --> 00:44:52,233 It kept on going. It continues. 883 00:44:53,651 --> 00:44:56,363 Donald Trump is our guest. 884 00:44:57,238 --> 00:44:58,031 He is the leading 885 00:44:58,031 --> 00:45:00,408 2016 Republican presidential contender. 886 00:45:00,408 --> 00:45:01,701 Well, Donald Trump, let me say this. 887 00:45:01,701 --> 00:45:04,621 My audience, I'd say 90 percent, support you. 888 00:45:04,621 --> 00:45:06,706 Your reputation's amazing. 889 00:45:06,706 --> 00:45:08,166 I will not let you down. 890 00:45:08,166 --> 00:45:11,670 You will be very, very impressed, I hope. 891 00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:14,214 2016, you know, we had a president 892 00:45:14,214 --> 00:45:15,965 that was denying things. 893 00:45:15,965 --> 00:45:18,593 This is a good time to be alive, ladies and gentlemen, 894 00:45:18,593 --> 00:45:21,012 and we owe Donald Trump so much. 895 00:45:21,012 --> 00:45:26,226 That idea, that concept, has spread, to not trust media. 896 00:45:26,226 --> 00:45:31,398 There was this escalation in alternative ways of thinking 897 00:45:31,398 --> 00:45:37,946 so that, combined with Infowars repeating Sandy Hook lies, 898 00:45:37,946 --> 00:45:41,866 brought everything back again. It restarted the cycle. 899 00:45:45,745 --> 00:45:47,997 Alex Jones isn't going away. 900 00:45:47,997 --> 00:45:50,000 Over the years, his YouTube channel 901 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,420 has racked up 1.3 billion views. 902 00:45:53,420 --> 00:45:55,839 He has millions of listeners, 903 00:45:55,839 --> 00:45:58,008 and the ear of our current president. 904 00:45:58,008 --> 00:46:00,885 Alex Jones's general statements and remarks 905 00:46:00,885 --> 00:46:02,887 and, you know, disbelief of the tragedy 906 00:46:02,887 --> 00:46:05,015 were getting more and more frequent. 907 00:46:05,557 --> 00:46:07,726 So I went on the, uh, 908 00:46:07,726 --> 00:46:09,936 Megyn's show and I did an interview. 909 00:46:09,936 --> 00:46:14,065 I lost my son. I buried my son. 910 00:46:14,065 --> 00:46:17,736 I held my son with a bullet hole through his head. 911 00:46:17,736 --> 00:46:22,907 Shortly thereafter, I was accused of being a liar. 912 00:46:22,907 --> 00:46:25,076 Here's another story. 913 00:46:25,076 --> 00:46:28,872 Neil Heslin, a father of one of the victims, 914 00:46:28,872 --> 00:46:32,000 he's claiming that he held his son 915 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,252 and saw the bullet hole in his head. 916 00:46:34,252 --> 00:46:35,503 That is his claim. 917 00:46:36,838 --> 00:46:39,424 Now, according to a timeline of events 918 00:46:39,424 --> 00:46:41,760 and a coroner's testimony, 919 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,928 that is not possible. 920 00:46:45,805 --> 00:46:47,098 Megyn Kelly, 921 00:46:47,098 --> 00:46:48,933 talking to the father of one of the victims, 922 00:46:48,933 --> 00:46:51,394 saying he went and held his dead son 923 00:46:51,394 --> 00:46:52,812 there at the school. 924 00:46:55,231 --> 00:46:57,359 And then it cuts to the coroner, but he's saying 925 00:46:57,359 --> 00:46:59,194 no one was allowed to go in and see the kids. 926 00:46:59,194 --> 00:47:02,155 And we just said, "See? That's why people ask questions." 927 00:47:02,155 --> 00:47:06,576 I held him with a bullet hole in his head. 928 00:47:06,576 --> 00:47:08,578 You know, who does he think he is 929 00:47:08,578 --> 00:47:11,247 to... to... you know, question that? 930 00:47:14,250 --> 00:47:18,213 That was really the-- what broke the camel's back. 931 00:47:18,213 --> 00:47:21,841 And that's when I filed the lawsuit against Alex Jones. 932 00:47:23,885 --> 00:47:25,637 And I figured, "Well, he's in Texas, 933 00:47:25,637 --> 00:47:27,597 I'm gonna go to Texas with it." 934 00:47:30,850 --> 00:47:33,603 2018, Neil Heslin called me 935 00:47:33,603 --> 00:47:35,188 and said, "Can you help me?" 936 00:47:36,147 --> 00:47:38,108 Neil lost his son, Jesse. 937 00:47:38,108 --> 00:47:39,317 And what was in Neil's case 938 00:47:39,317 --> 00:47:41,152 is that Infowars specifically said, 939 00:47:41,152 --> 00:47:43,863 "You're lying about having held your child. 940 00:47:43,863 --> 00:47:45,865 You didn't do that. You're a liar." 941 00:47:47,534 --> 00:47:49,994 And then, of course, Jesse's mom, Scarlett Lewis, 942 00:47:49,994 --> 00:47:52,247 also subject to the same kind of harassment, 943 00:47:52,247 --> 00:47:55,000 these lies about the death of her child. 944 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,002 So you had two causes of action for Neil, 945 00:47:57,002 --> 00:47:58,044 which is defamation 946 00:47:58,044 --> 00:48:00,422 and intentional infliction of emotional distress, 947 00:48:00,422 --> 00:48:02,757 and just the emotional distress for Scarlett. 948 00:48:04,009 --> 00:48:06,177 I had to think long and hard 949 00:48:06,177 --> 00:48:08,930 over whether I would join the lawsuit. 950 00:48:08,930 --> 00:48:13,226 There have been times that have been very scary, 951 00:48:13,226 --> 00:48:16,354 and I've had to think, "Wow, is this is worth it?" 952 00:48:17,689 --> 00:48:18,690 And... 953 00:48:19,983 --> 00:48:22,485 my conclusion has always been, "Yeah. 954 00:48:23,361 --> 00:48:27,657 It's worth it to send this message, 955 00:48:27,657 --> 00:48:29,242 the importance of truth." 956 00:48:48,011 --> 00:48:51,181 So, this is the case against Alex Jones 957 00:48:51,181 --> 00:48:54,225 on behalf of 15 Connecticut plaintiffs. 958 00:48:55,185 --> 00:48:57,270 The Texas cases kinda continued 959 00:48:57,270 --> 00:49:00,565 on somewhat of a parallel track to ours. 960 00:49:00,565 --> 00:49:02,734 We're both proceeding, um, 961 00:49:02,734 --> 00:49:04,319 I think, with the same goal in mind, 962 00:49:04,319 --> 00:49:07,072 you know, which is to hold Alex Jones accountable. 963 00:49:09,157 --> 00:49:10,492 The families that we represent 964 00:49:10,492 --> 00:49:13,286 are very much looking forward to the trial. 965 00:49:14,496 --> 00:49:15,955 I was at a conference 966 00:49:15,955 --> 00:49:18,208 for mothers who-- 967 00:49:18,208 --> 00:49:21,294 whose kids died by gun violence. 968 00:49:21,294 --> 00:49:25,423 And I, uh, was in an elevator with this woman. 969 00:49:25,423 --> 00:49:27,759 She saw my necklace and she said, 970 00:49:28,635 --> 00:49:29,427 "Who's this?" 971 00:49:29,427 --> 00:49:32,013 And I said, "Oh, this is my son, Ben. 972 00:49:32,013 --> 00:49:33,682 He was killed when he was six." 973 00:49:33,682 --> 00:49:36,267 And she said, "What do you mean?" 974 00:49:36,267 --> 00:49:38,561 And I said, "Well, we live in Sandy Hook, 975 00:49:38,561 --> 00:49:41,147 he died in his school." 976 00:49:41,147 --> 00:49:44,150 And she said, "You're lying." 977 00:49:44,150 --> 00:49:45,902 -Wow. -"That didn't happen. 978 00:49:45,902 --> 00:49:47,946 They said it-- they said it didn't happen." 979 00:49:47,946 --> 00:49:49,280 And I was like, "What?" 980 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,449 She said, "No, no, they said it didn't happen." 981 00:49:51,449 --> 00:49:54,619 And I was like, "No, it-- it really happened." 982 00:49:54,619 --> 00:49:55,787 And she wasn't crazy. 983 00:49:55,787 --> 00:49:59,374 It had been years since our kids were killed, 984 00:49:59,374 --> 00:50:00,792 and I'm walking down the street in Seattle 985 00:50:00,792 --> 00:50:03,294 and somebody recognizes me, and then he looked up and goes, 986 00:50:03,294 --> 00:50:04,713 "How do you fucking sleep at night, 987 00:50:04,713 --> 00:50:05,797 you son of a bitch?" 988 00:50:05,797 --> 00:50:08,258 And I just think the amount of content 989 00:50:08,258 --> 00:50:12,470 that that person had to watch and digest and hold on to, 990 00:50:12,470 --> 00:50:16,099 to where he could recognize me in some random city, 991 00:50:16,099 --> 00:50:19,477 3,000 miles away from Newtown, on some random day... 992 00:50:19,477 --> 00:50:22,731 Like, how much... How much did he have to take in? 993 00:50:23,982 --> 00:50:25,316 Part of what we're doing here 994 00:50:25,316 --> 00:50:29,904 is hoping that we can... we can do our little part 995 00:50:29,904 --> 00:50:32,699 to course correct this kind of dangerous, 996 00:50:32,699 --> 00:50:34,325 wildly out of control dynamic 997 00:50:34,325 --> 00:50:36,077 of misinformation and disinformation 998 00:50:36,077 --> 00:50:38,788 and people who are happy and willing to believe 999 00:50:38,788 --> 00:50:41,499 whatever it is that they want to hear. 1000 00:50:41,499 --> 00:50:44,627 It was the only thing we found that was left for us 1001 00:50:44,627 --> 00:50:47,505 to make it stop, hopefully, to make it stop. 1002 00:50:48,548 --> 00:50:53,094 My little son died afraid, and alone, terrorized, 1003 00:50:53,094 --> 00:50:54,846 watching his friends be murdered. 1004 00:50:55,764 --> 00:50:56,765 Yeah. 1005 00:50:58,016 --> 00:50:59,267 Lots of anger. 1006 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,481 There's so much to deal with 1007 00:51:05,023 --> 00:51:06,483 after losing a child. 1008 00:51:06,483 --> 00:51:09,861 I'm strong enough now that I'm ready to take this on. 1009 00:51:11,237 --> 00:51:13,323 So what's the end result gonna be? 1010 00:51:15,450 --> 00:51:18,870 Um, total destruction of Alex Jones, can I say that? 1011 00:51:20,997 --> 00:51:22,665 - I love America. 1012 00:51:22,665 --> 00:51:25,293 It's not fear that makes me get tears in my eyes. 1013 00:51:25,293 --> 00:51:30,006 It's will and strength boiling to defeat these tyrants, 1014 00:51:30,006 --> 00:51:32,050 and these globalists. 1015 00:51:33,510 --> 00:51:35,053 But that said... 1016 00:51:35,053 --> 00:51:37,597 Just like our information is game-changing... 1017 00:51:39,808 --> 00:51:41,559 the products that we sell, 1018 00:51:42,435 --> 00:51:45,480 all of them, are powerful. 1019 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,066 And whether it's colloidal silver from 1995, 1020 00:51:48,066 --> 00:51:49,275 the very best out there, 1021 00:51:49,275 --> 00:51:52,404 or whether it's DNA Force, now back in stock... 1022 00:51:52,404 --> 00:51:54,739 What we really want to do 1023 00:51:54,739 --> 00:51:58,952 is expose him to the world 1024 00:51:58,952 --> 00:52:02,831 as a con man, a fraud. 1025 00:52:04,165 --> 00:52:07,293 Alex Jones does not want his audience to know 1026 00:52:07,293 --> 00:52:09,629 just how much he's exploiting them every day. 1027 00:52:09,629 --> 00:52:12,132 But what happened is, their lawyers gave us 1028 00:52:12,132 --> 00:52:15,218 all these emails, which they hadn't reviewed, 1029 00:52:15,218 --> 00:52:18,805 and included in the emails were attachments 1030 00:52:18,805 --> 00:52:23,226 that showed some of the data for some of the years. 1031 00:52:23,226 --> 00:52:26,312 It just so happened, you know, we got lucky. 1032 00:52:26,312 --> 00:52:31,901 The dates are from 2009 to 2014, so that was great for us 1033 00:52:31,901 --> 00:52:34,112 because what we were able to show 1034 00:52:34,112 --> 00:52:37,574 is the growth in audience month over month 1035 00:52:37,574 --> 00:52:39,784 and year over year. 1036 00:52:39,784 --> 00:52:43,413 So, they published this story to infowars.com, 1037 00:52:43,413 --> 00:52:46,041 September 2014, almost two years after the shooting, 1038 00:52:46,041 --> 00:52:48,752 "FBI Says No One Killed at Sandy Hook." 1039 00:52:48,752 --> 00:52:50,962 It's just a lie, it's ridiculous. 1040 00:52:50,962 --> 00:52:54,299 But you put out a story like this 1041 00:52:54,299 --> 00:52:55,633 and it gets people's attention 1042 00:52:55,633 --> 00:52:57,802 because, I think, people just assume, 1043 00:52:57,802 --> 00:52:59,888 "Oh, my gosh, more evidence." 1044 00:52:59,888 --> 00:53:02,057 And, of course, you know, they're running their 1045 00:53:02,057 --> 00:53:05,143 33 percent off DNA Force Plus. 1046 00:53:05,143 --> 00:53:07,562 So, they published this story 1047 00:53:07,562 --> 00:53:10,482 and then they had a spike in unique visitors, 1048 00:53:10,482 --> 00:53:12,650 they have a spike in page views. 1049 00:53:12,650 --> 00:53:14,652 So what's happening is all these new people 1050 00:53:14,652 --> 00:53:18,490 are coming to infowars.com to read this bullshit story 1051 00:53:18,490 --> 00:53:21,826 about FBI saying nobody killed at Sandy Hook, 1052 00:53:21,826 --> 00:53:22,911 and when they're there, 1053 00:53:22,911 --> 00:53:25,997 they're getting pitched all these ads to go to the store 1054 00:53:25,997 --> 00:53:27,665 and a lot of them do. 1055 00:53:27,665 --> 00:53:31,586 The next day, their revenue goes from 48,000 1056 00:53:31,586 --> 00:53:34,005 to 232,000, 1057 00:53:34,005 --> 00:53:36,508 from this one story alone. 1058 00:53:36,508 --> 00:53:38,802 Uh, good morning sir. - Good morning. 1059 00:53:38,802 --> 00:53:41,638 This guy, Tim Fruge, his business director. 1060 00:53:41,638 --> 00:53:44,808 In this deposition, you know, I show him the spike, 1061 00:53:44,808 --> 00:53:46,309 he says, "Yeah, there's a spike." 1062 00:53:46,309 --> 00:53:48,269 I would agree there's a spike, yes. 1063 00:53:48,269 --> 00:53:49,979 I agree with you. 1064 00:53:49,979 --> 00:53:53,858 And when you're having your daily call with Alex Jones 1065 00:53:53,858 --> 00:53:56,319 and you see a spike in revenue like that, 1066 00:53:56,319 --> 00:53:59,614 from 48,000 to 232,000 dollars, 1067 00:53:59,614 --> 00:54:01,700 you're telling him about that, right? 1068 00:54:01,700 --> 00:54:02,784 Yeah, of course. 1069 00:54:03,660 --> 00:54:05,203 Of course! 1070 00:54:05,203 --> 00:54:07,872 It's just so obvious what they're doing. 1071 00:54:07,872 --> 00:54:09,833 Jones is just getting rich. 1072 00:54:09,833 --> 00:54:12,544 He's just getting rich off of saying these things 1073 00:54:12,544 --> 00:54:16,214 about these families who meantime, meantime in 2014, 1074 00:54:16,214 --> 00:54:20,677 they're under a barrage of threats and harassment 1075 00:54:21,720 --> 00:54:25,098 and fear and anxiety because of what he's doing. 1076 00:54:25,098 --> 00:54:26,141 He doesn't give a shit. 1077 00:54:26,141 --> 00:54:27,976 He's just like getting rich off it. 1078 00:54:28,893 --> 00:54:31,229 Yeah, I mean, you know, it's... 1079 00:54:31,229 --> 00:54:32,731 Yeah, the more people in town square, 1080 00:54:32,731 --> 00:54:35,692 the more people go to the shops. Yes. 1081 00:54:35,692 --> 00:54:37,610 -Morning, Mr. Jones. - Good morning. 1082 00:54:37,610 --> 00:54:39,946 His dad, David Jones, 1083 00:54:39,946 --> 00:54:42,741 kind of like said the quiet part out loud. 1084 00:54:42,741 --> 00:54:46,286 Are you aware whether Free Speech Systems collects 1085 00:54:46,286 --> 00:54:50,498 data concerning when during an Alex Jones broadcast 1086 00:54:50,498 --> 00:54:52,417 it has the most sales activity? 1087 00:54:54,627 --> 00:54:58,173 Only in the sense that if there have been days 1088 00:54:58,173 --> 00:55:02,177 where we had extraordinarily good sales, someone will say, 1089 00:55:02,177 --> 00:55:04,387 "What was Alex saying when that happened?" 1090 00:55:04,387 --> 00:55:07,390 And so, we like to emulate spikes. 1091 00:55:07,390 --> 00:55:09,851 They're seeing this and they want to replicate it. 1092 00:55:09,851 --> 00:55:12,103 Of course, that's how you run a business. 1093 00:55:12,103 --> 00:55:13,480 That's what you would expect, 1094 00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,441 except that Alex Jones tells his audience, 1095 00:55:16,441 --> 00:55:18,234 "I don't care about money, you know, 1096 00:55:18,234 --> 00:55:20,111 I'm just all about freedom 1097 00:55:20,111 --> 00:55:21,780 and fighting the globalists. 1098 00:55:21,780 --> 00:55:23,865 And, you know, support us if you can 1099 00:55:23,865 --> 00:55:25,116 to keep us on the air." 1100 00:55:25,116 --> 00:55:28,661 When really what he's doing is just feeding his audience 1101 00:55:28,661 --> 00:55:33,958 like a daily dose of fear and rage 1102 00:55:33,958 --> 00:55:35,585 and looking at what works. 1103 00:55:37,420 --> 00:55:41,216 What else could possibly explain the way these families 1104 00:55:41,216 --> 00:55:43,718 have been hunted and stalked for ten years? 1105 00:55:50,475 --> 00:55:52,060 Jones was not reluctant 1106 00:55:52,060 --> 00:55:53,311 to have his deposition taken. 1107 00:55:53,311 --> 00:55:54,979 When it first started, you could tell 1108 00:55:54,979 --> 00:55:57,691 he was feeling like he was in his element. 1109 00:55:57,691 --> 00:55:59,859 You know, he thought, "Oh, I'm in front of a camera. 1110 00:55:59,859 --> 00:56:02,320 I'm just going to act like I'm on my own show." 1111 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,448 The trauma of the media and the corporations 1112 00:56:05,448 --> 00:56:08,576 lying so much, then everything begins-- 1113 00:56:08,576 --> 00:56:10,662 You don't trust anything anymore. 1114 00:56:10,662 --> 00:56:12,497 Kind of like a child whose parents lie to them 1115 00:56:12,497 --> 00:56:14,374 over and over again. Well, pretty soon they don't know 1116 00:56:14,374 --> 00:56:15,625 what reality is. 1117 00:56:15,625 --> 00:56:20,630 People lost any compass of what's real. 1118 00:56:20,630 --> 00:56:23,341 And I've, you know, I myself have, you know, almost had 1119 00:56:23,341 --> 00:56:24,843 like a form of psychosis back in the past 1120 00:56:24,843 --> 00:56:27,470 where I basically thought everything was staged, 1121 00:56:27,470 --> 00:56:29,055 even though I'm now learning a lot of times 1122 00:56:29,055 --> 00:56:30,015 things aren't staged. 1123 00:56:30,015 --> 00:56:32,058 You know, it's painful that we have to question 1124 00:56:32,058 --> 00:56:34,269 big public events. I think that's an essential part 1125 00:56:34,269 --> 00:56:36,104 of the First Amendment in America... 1126 00:56:36,104 --> 00:56:37,480 In this country, 1127 00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:39,733 First Amendment guarantees that Congress shall pass no law 1128 00:56:39,733 --> 00:56:41,484 abridging the freedom of the speech. 1129 00:56:41,484 --> 00:56:43,862 Telling lies, false information 1130 00:56:43,862 --> 00:56:46,448 is not protected by the First Amendment. 1131 00:56:46,448 --> 00:56:48,700 And then photos of kids that are still alive 1132 00:56:48,700 --> 00:56:49,743 they said died. 1133 00:56:49,743 --> 00:56:51,536 I mean, they think we're so dumb 1134 00:56:51,536 --> 00:56:55,498 that it's-- it's really hidden in plain view. 1135 00:56:55,498 --> 00:56:57,542 Mr. Jones, you can admit that that statement 1136 00:56:57,542 --> 00:56:59,461 was absolute nonsense. 1137 00:56:59,461 --> 00:57:01,546 There are not photos of children 1138 00:57:01,546 --> 00:57:03,381 who died who are actually still alive. 1139 00:57:03,381 --> 00:57:05,425 - That's not-- - That is an out-of-context clip. 1140 00:57:05,425 --> 00:57:07,719 I can't even respond to something like that. 1141 00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,555 You've made money from every single one 1142 00:57:10,555 --> 00:57:12,557 of these broadcasts we saw today, right? 1143 00:57:14,976 --> 00:57:17,854 No, we actually lose money on really controversial stuff. 1144 00:57:17,854 --> 00:57:19,564 We can actually see it. 1145 00:57:19,564 --> 00:57:22,067 And you have supplements you sell too 1146 00:57:22,067 --> 00:57:23,443 with these videos, correct? 1147 00:57:24,694 --> 00:57:27,906 It's-- The two don't go together. 1148 00:57:27,906 --> 00:57:30,075 You can never trust anything this guy says. 1149 00:57:30,075 --> 00:57:31,534 He's a calculated liar. 1150 00:57:31,534 --> 00:57:35,580 As the deposition drug on, he enjoyed it less. 1151 00:57:35,580 --> 00:57:37,874 We are back on the record at 12:58 p.m. 1152 00:57:37,874 --> 00:57:39,626 Mr. Jones, before we went on a break, 1153 00:57:39,626 --> 00:57:42,087 we were talking about the issue of whether there were EMTs 1154 00:57:42,087 --> 00:57:43,380 allowed into the building. 1155 00:57:43,380 --> 00:57:45,215 We talk a lot about the tragedy at Sandy Hook 1156 00:57:45,215 --> 00:57:48,259 and sometimes we shield ourselves from the details. 1157 00:57:48,259 --> 00:57:51,179 In that second classroom, 1158 00:57:51,179 --> 00:57:56,267 there was over a dozen children piled into a rear bathroom. 1159 00:57:56,267 --> 00:57:57,894 I have put in front of you the statement 1160 00:57:57,894 --> 00:57:59,938 of Lieutenant Vanghele. I'm going to read that 1161 00:57:59,938 --> 00:58:02,816 and you're going to follow along with me. Okay? 1162 00:58:02,816 --> 00:58:06,319 "I then walked into a room with Sergeant Cario. 1163 00:58:06,319 --> 00:58:07,946 To the left of the room as you walk in, 1164 00:58:07,946 --> 00:58:09,698 there was a bathroom in the corner. 1165 00:58:09,698 --> 00:58:12,742 There was a massive pileup of bodies in this room. 1166 00:58:12,742 --> 00:58:14,994 At this time, I did not know it was a bathroom, 1167 00:58:14,994 --> 00:58:17,747 and I wondered how the suspect had the time to kill 1168 00:58:17,747 --> 00:58:20,333 that many people and stack them in the corner of the room. 1169 00:58:20,333 --> 00:58:22,252 And many of the bodies had injuries 1170 00:58:22,252 --> 00:58:23,712 that were obviously fatal. 1171 00:58:23,712 --> 00:58:25,797 The children that were sitting on the floor of the bathroom 1172 00:58:25,797 --> 00:58:27,632 were packed in like sardines." 1173 00:58:29,718 --> 00:58:31,553 Let's look at exhibit three. 1174 00:58:32,554 --> 00:58:34,264 Do you see at the very bottom of the page, 1175 00:58:34,264 --> 00:58:35,473 the very bottom left corner, 1176 00:58:35,473 --> 00:58:36,891 it says Sergeant William F. Cario? 1177 00:58:36,891 --> 00:58:38,101 - Yes. -Okay. 1178 00:58:38,101 --> 00:58:40,520 I'm going to read the highlighted part to you. 1179 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,273 "Paramedic Matt Cassavechia approached me. 1180 00:58:43,273 --> 00:58:45,108 I have known Cassavechia for many years 1181 00:58:45,108 --> 00:58:48,278 and recognized him as the head of EMS for Danbury Hospital. 1182 00:58:48,278 --> 00:58:49,487 Cassavechia said, 1183 00:58:49,487 --> 00:58:51,489 'You know I've got to get into that building.' 1184 00:58:51,489 --> 00:58:53,867 I realized at some point those victims presumed dead 1185 00:58:53,867 --> 00:58:55,952 would have to be officially pronounced dead. 1186 00:58:55,952 --> 00:58:58,872 As we walked to the school, I told Cassavechia, 1187 00:58:58,872 --> 00:59:00,957 'This will be the worst day of your life.'" 1188 00:59:02,083 --> 00:59:04,377 After that, his demeanor totally changed 1189 00:59:04,377 --> 00:59:07,172 and his attitude for the rest of the deposition changed. 1190 00:59:10,967 --> 00:59:13,887 One of the major successes that I think we've had 1191 00:59:13,887 --> 00:59:16,765 is forcing Jones to admit under oath, 1192 00:59:16,765 --> 00:59:19,517 that he was not right, that Sandy Hook happened. 1193 00:59:19,517 --> 00:59:22,103 We finally have that on record. 1194 00:59:22,103 --> 00:59:26,524 Recently, your lawyer said, "There is no dispute 1195 00:59:26,524 --> 00:59:28,860 that the Sandy Hook tragedy was real." 1196 00:59:28,860 --> 00:59:32,030 You stand by that, that's what you admit is true now? 1197 00:59:32,864 --> 00:59:33,865 Yes. 1198 00:59:36,034 --> 00:59:38,912 I wanna ask you, now looking back on this, 1199 00:59:38,912 --> 00:59:40,622 are you sorry? 1200 00:59:40,622 --> 00:59:42,874 You know, I did all this from a good place in my heart, 1201 00:59:42,874 --> 00:59:45,377 and I'm really sad the establishment has lied 1202 00:59:45,377 --> 00:59:47,420 so much and done so much 1203 00:59:47,420 --> 00:59:50,215 that the public doesn't believe what they're told anymore. 1204 00:59:50,215 --> 00:59:52,300 There's been a real loss of confidence in the system. 1205 00:59:53,218 --> 00:59:54,636 And I'm a good person. 1206 00:59:54,636 --> 00:59:56,554 So in some ways you're a victim? 1207 00:59:56,554 --> 00:59:57,722 Well, let's just say time's running out 1208 00:59:57,722 --> 00:59:58,973 for the establishment. 1209 01:00:03,728 --> 01:00:06,481 This is bizarre. This is unbelievable. 1210 01:00:06,481 --> 01:00:08,400 A judge just says, 1211 01:00:09,442 --> 01:00:11,277 "You're defaulted, you're guilty. 1212 01:00:11,277 --> 01:00:12,862 You owe these people money." 1213 01:00:28,878 --> 01:00:30,630 For the past three years, 1214 01:00:30,630 --> 01:00:33,466 Infowars has repeatedly disobeyed 1215 01:00:33,466 --> 01:00:34,843 the court's instructions. 1216 01:00:34,843 --> 01:00:37,429 Has broken virtually every rule 1217 01:00:37,429 --> 01:00:38,847 that could be put in front of them. 1218 01:00:38,847 --> 01:00:41,349 The judge had enough, said it's over. 1219 01:00:44,561 --> 01:00:47,397 What that means is he's lost. It's over. 1220 01:00:48,815 --> 01:00:51,651 Because a default judgment has been granted against Jones, 1221 01:00:51,651 --> 01:00:53,028 and that's a big event. 1222 01:00:53,028 --> 01:00:55,405 All that's left to do is to determine 1223 01:00:55,405 --> 01:00:57,032 how much he has to pay these parents 1224 01:00:57,032 --> 01:00:59,868 for the unlawful acts he did. That's it. 1225 01:01:03,705 --> 01:01:05,790 This jury will be instructed, 1226 01:01:05,790 --> 01:01:07,834 at the very beginning of this trial, 1227 01:01:07,834 --> 01:01:10,545 that they are to find that the defendant 1228 01:01:10,545 --> 01:01:12,130 has committed these acts. 1229 01:01:12,130 --> 01:01:13,590 All right, Mr. Jones, you know about, 1230 01:01:13,590 --> 01:01:17,052 uh, back in September a default got granted against you, right? 1231 01:01:17,052 --> 01:01:18,720 I know I didn't get a jury trial. 1232 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:19,971 I know a judge said I was guilty. 1233 01:01:19,971 --> 01:01:21,723 I don't believe that I live in the Soviet Union. 1234 01:01:21,723 --> 01:01:24,434 Now that you got beat in court, 1235 01:01:24,434 --> 01:01:25,852 now that a default's been granted-- 1236 01:01:25,852 --> 01:01:27,228 No, I didn't get beat in court. 1237 01:01:27,228 --> 01:01:29,981 I got beat by an organized crime syndicate. 1238 01:01:29,981 --> 01:01:31,858 What Jones decided to do in this case 1239 01:01:31,858 --> 01:01:33,902 was not participate in discovery. 1240 01:01:33,902 --> 01:01:38,114 And he never gave us anything other than just pure BS. 1241 01:01:38,948 --> 01:01:40,992 Yet he turns around then and says, 1242 01:01:40,992 --> 01:01:43,578 "Oh, I gave so much information." 1243 01:01:43,578 --> 01:01:46,289 If-- if-- if you give me 80 pounds of shit, 1244 01:01:46,289 --> 01:01:47,874 it's still 80 pounds of shit. 1245 01:01:47,874 --> 01:01:51,711 This is a show trial. Eighty-one thousand pages, 1246 01:01:51,711 --> 01:01:54,214 two depositions with myself and my whole crew, 1247 01:01:54,214 --> 01:01:56,716 because we don't have what you claim we have. 1248 01:01:56,716 --> 01:01:58,301 He looked at it and said, 1249 01:01:58,301 --> 01:01:59,928 "If I give you all the information that I'm supposed to give you, 1250 01:01:59,928 --> 01:02:01,054 there's no way I'm ever gonna win. 1251 01:02:01,054 --> 01:02:02,472 So why the hell am I gonna give it to you?" 1252 01:02:02,472 --> 01:02:05,850 So, if you don't give it to us, there's remedies for that. 1253 01:02:05,850 --> 01:02:08,019 And that remedy is, again, the default. 1254 01:02:08,019 --> 01:02:11,231 It's a kangaroo trial because it is. 1255 01:02:12,399 --> 01:02:14,442 You didn't even answer discovery. 1256 01:02:14,442 --> 01:02:15,985 When you tell your show 1257 01:02:15,985 --> 01:02:17,946 that this is all just a kangaroo court 1258 01:02:17,946 --> 01:02:20,740 and you completely complied but got railroaded, 1259 01:02:20,740 --> 01:02:21,908 that's not true. 1260 01:02:21,908 --> 01:02:23,368 - None of that's true. - No, it is true. 1261 01:02:23,368 --> 01:02:25,870 I mean, I remember giving you guys all sorts of stuff. 1262 01:02:25,870 --> 01:02:27,330 Then you would say you hadn't been given it. 1263 01:02:27,330 --> 01:02:30,834 I don't say this as a victim, but this is traumatic for me, 1264 01:02:30,834 --> 01:02:33,044 and I'm s-- and I'm tired of hearing about it. 1265 01:02:33,044 --> 01:02:36,214 And now, I have, like, a mental wall on Sandy Hook 1266 01:02:36,214 --> 01:02:37,173 that just goes up, 1267 01:02:37,173 --> 01:02:39,384 because I can't deal with the stress of it. 1268 01:02:39,384 --> 01:02:42,887 And so, I just put a mental wall up and I-- I-- 1269 01:02:42,887 --> 01:02:44,222 You ask me these questions, 1270 01:02:44,222 --> 01:02:46,766 and it's like... I just can't deal with it anymore. 1271 01:03:07,746 --> 01:03:10,707 I'm gonna tell you again. You're having all of your rights robbed. 1272 01:03:10,707 --> 01:03:12,083 We're not allowed to tell the jury 1273 01:03:12,083 --> 01:03:13,585 that Infowars is bankrupt. 1274 01:03:13,585 --> 01:03:16,087 This is a kangaroo court. This is a political action. 1275 01:03:16,087 --> 01:03:17,464 It's a witch hunt. I'll be back later. 1276 01:03:17,464 --> 01:03:18,882 We got business here. 1277 01:03:23,261 --> 01:03:25,263 We just heard from Alex Jones. 1278 01:03:25,263 --> 01:03:29,184 He believes the trial is a sham, a show trial. 1279 01:03:29,184 --> 01:03:31,770 He's saying that because he's already been found liable 1280 01:03:31,770 --> 01:03:34,105 by default by this judge. 1281 01:03:45,992 --> 01:03:47,369 All rise. 1282 01:03:48,453 --> 01:03:50,914 459th District Court is now in session. 1283 01:03:50,914 --> 01:03:53,249 The Honorable Judge Maya Guerra Gamble presiding. 1284 01:03:53,708 --> 01:03:54,959 Good morning. 1285 01:03:56,294 --> 01:03:57,921 You may be seated. 1286 01:03:57,921 --> 01:04:00,006 This is Neil Heslin and Scarlett Lewis 1287 01:04:00,006 --> 01:04:01,800 versus Alex E. Jones 1288 01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,303 and Free Speech Systems LLC. 1289 01:04:05,303 --> 01:04:07,597 You are not here to determine if Mr. Jones 1290 01:04:07,597 --> 01:04:10,475 and Free Speech Systems LLC defamed 1291 01:04:10,475 --> 01:04:13,561 or intentionally inflicted emotional distress 1292 01:04:13,561 --> 01:04:15,980 on Mr. Heslin or Ms. Lewis. 1293 01:04:15,980 --> 01:04:17,941 The court has already found 1294 01:04:17,941 --> 01:04:20,652 that they have committed these acts. 1295 01:04:20,652 --> 01:04:24,197 The jury's job will be to determine what sum of money, 1296 01:04:24,197 --> 01:04:27,575 if any, would fairly and reasonably compensate 1297 01:04:27,575 --> 01:04:29,494 Neil Heslin and Scarlett Lewis 1298 01:04:29,494 --> 01:04:32,914 for the damages they incurred that were proximately caused 1299 01:04:32,914 --> 01:04:36,668 by Mr. Jones and Free Speech Systems LLC. 1300 01:04:37,752 --> 01:04:40,171 Mr. Bankston, whenever you are ready. 1301 01:04:42,882 --> 01:04:45,176 Ladies and gentlemen, my name's Mark Bankston, 1302 01:04:45,176 --> 01:04:48,221 and I'm here to talk to you about two rules. 1303 01:04:48,221 --> 01:04:51,391 First, you can't recklessly tell lies 1304 01:04:51,391 --> 01:04:54,227 about something important to someone. 1305 01:04:54,227 --> 01:04:57,188 In this case, like the death of their child. 1306 01:04:58,273 --> 01:05:02,027 If you do that, you know you're going to cause them harm, 1307 01:05:02,027 --> 01:05:03,528 you're responsible for that. 1308 01:05:04,529 --> 01:05:08,742 Mr. Jones continually was churning this idea 1309 01:05:08,742 --> 01:05:10,493 that Sandy Hook was fake. 1310 01:05:12,537 --> 01:05:15,540 You need to understand that he intentionally lied 1311 01:05:16,166 --> 01:05:18,293 to sell supplements. 1312 01:05:18,293 --> 01:05:24,090 Mr. Jones used Jesse's death to sell his products. 1313 01:05:25,884 --> 01:05:28,428 Mr. Jones told the world 1314 01:05:28,428 --> 01:05:32,140 that Neil was lying about holding Jesse's body. 1315 01:05:33,433 --> 01:05:39,105 Because Mr. Jones will do or say anything 1316 01:05:39,105 --> 01:05:42,484 to protect his ability to profit off his lies. 1317 01:05:43,234 --> 01:05:45,820 And over the last decade, 1318 01:05:45,820 --> 01:05:49,657 Mr. Jones has become incredibly influential 1319 01:05:50,575 --> 01:05:52,744 over a segment of this country. 1320 01:05:52,744 --> 01:05:57,248 What I want you to remember about this is this number. 1321 01:05:59,084 --> 01:06:01,044 Twenty-four percent 1322 01:06:01,044 --> 01:06:03,963 is the percent of people in this country 1323 01:06:03,963 --> 01:06:06,591 who believe that Sandy Hook was either definitely 1324 01:06:06,591 --> 01:06:07,550 or possibly staged, 1325 01:06:07,550 --> 01:06:12,138 and group of people is 75 million people. 1326 01:06:12,138 --> 01:06:14,099 You can put an end to these lies 1327 01:06:14,641 --> 01:06:16,184 by punishing Alex Jones. 1328 01:06:18,603 --> 01:06:20,188 -Thank you very much. 1329 01:06:21,940 --> 01:06:24,234 All right, thank you, Mr. Bankston. 1330 01:06:25,777 --> 01:06:27,153 It was surreal. 1331 01:06:28,279 --> 01:06:32,117 That 24 percent just was so powerful, 1332 01:06:32,117 --> 01:06:33,451 especially to me. 1333 01:06:33,451 --> 01:06:37,163 I mean, I had known that, but I didn't want to say it 1334 01:06:37,163 --> 01:06:39,958 because I didn't really want to acknowledge 1335 01:06:39,958 --> 01:06:44,212 that a quarter of Americans don't believe the facts. 1336 01:06:45,630 --> 01:06:49,426 Infowars believes in people's right 1337 01:06:49,968 --> 01:06:52,012 to question information. 1338 01:06:52,012 --> 01:06:54,639 Alex Jones doesn't trust the government. 1339 01:06:55,807 --> 01:06:59,811 Millions of Americans don't trust the government. 1340 01:06:59,811 --> 01:07:02,814 There's nothing sort of more appealing 1341 01:07:02,814 --> 01:07:05,483 than when I see, uh, you know, 1342 01:07:05,483 --> 01:07:08,319 a person alone surrounded by a lynch mob. 1343 01:07:10,822 --> 01:07:14,659 Despite his hyperbole, 1344 01:07:14,659 --> 01:07:17,954 he has helped millions of people 1345 01:07:17,954 --> 01:07:20,498 realize for the first time 1346 01:07:20,498 --> 01:07:24,044 the depredations that are affected upon them 1347 01:07:24,044 --> 01:07:27,464 by the elites. 1348 01:07:27,464 --> 01:07:29,841 And I think for that he is an American hero. 1349 01:07:32,010 --> 01:07:35,096 He is one of the most polarizing figures 1350 01:07:35,513 --> 01:07:37,390 in this nation. 1351 01:07:37,390 --> 01:07:40,810 They want to tell you this is the Great Satan. 1352 01:07:40,810 --> 01:07:43,104 You will be able to decide. 1353 01:07:45,982 --> 01:07:47,776 The plaintiff's attorneys 1354 01:07:47,776 --> 01:07:50,528 took Mr. Heslin and Ms. Lewis 1355 01:07:50,528 --> 01:07:54,240 and they convinced them that Alex Jones was responsible 1356 01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:57,035 for all the pain that they have in their lives. 1357 01:07:57,035 --> 01:07:59,204 And then they grabbed Alex Jones 1358 01:07:59,204 --> 01:08:01,414 and they threw us both into a pit 1359 01:08:01,414 --> 01:08:03,792 so that we could fight against each other on... 1360 01:08:03,792 --> 01:08:05,335 on national television. 1361 01:08:08,755 --> 01:08:10,799 Mr. Shroyer, raise your right hand 1362 01:08:10,799 --> 01:08:12,217 to be sworn in, please. 1363 01:08:13,468 --> 01:08:16,513 Neil said, "I held my son in my arms. 1364 01:08:17,597 --> 01:08:20,183 I saw the bullet wound through his forehead." 1365 01:08:21,434 --> 01:08:23,061 The person who got on the Internet, 1366 01:08:23,061 --> 01:08:24,479 on Jones's web show, 1367 01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,398 and said that Neil Heslin was a liar, 1368 01:08:26,398 --> 01:08:29,234 that's Infowars reporter Owen Shroyer. 1369 01:08:29,234 --> 01:08:33,071 You did a show on June 25th, 2017, 1370 01:08:33,071 --> 01:08:35,907 where you were the sole host. You remember that? 1371 01:08:35,907 --> 01:08:37,409 - Yes. -Okay. 1372 01:08:37,409 --> 01:08:40,537 You were handed the story while you were on air live 1373 01:08:40,537 --> 01:08:42,789 - and you ran with it, right? - Yes. 1374 01:08:42,789 --> 01:08:45,625 You had no problem putting that on the air, right? 1375 01:08:47,043 --> 01:08:48,086 Yes. 1376 01:08:48,086 --> 01:08:51,631 The message is, "Neil Heslin never held Jesse." 1377 01:08:51,631 --> 01:08:52,841 - Right? - No. 1378 01:08:52,841 --> 01:08:56,094 He's claiming that he held his son 1379 01:08:56,094 --> 01:08:58,596 and saw the bullet hole in his head. 1380 01:08:58,596 --> 01:08:59,597 That is his claim. 1381 01:08:59,597 --> 01:09:02,434 Now, according to a timeline of events 1382 01:09:02,434 --> 01:09:07,397 and a coroner's testimony, that is not possible. 1383 01:09:08,231 --> 01:09:11,276 Okay, so making a pretty extreme claim 1384 01:09:11,276 --> 01:09:13,361 that would be a very thing vivid in your memory, 1385 01:09:13,361 --> 01:09:15,238 holding his dead child. 1386 01:09:16,948 --> 01:09:19,743 When you, three times, say, "He's claiming it," 1387 01:09:19,743 --> 01:09:23,955 and then show evidence that you say refutes it, 1388 01:09:23,955 --> 01:09:25,290 you're saying you're not doubting it? 1389 01:09:25,290 --> 01:09:27,625 I didn't show evidence that refuted his claim. 1390 01:09:27,625 --> 01:09:30,128 I showed evidence that was presented to me 1391 01:09:30,128 --> 01:09:32,130 that says this doesn't add up. 1392 01:09:32,130 --> 01:09:35,091 But I never called Mr. Heslin a liar. 1393 01:09:35,091 --> 01:09:38,428 I never said Sandy Hook didn't happen. 1394 01:09:38,428 --> 01:09:40,889 In the process of putting that story out 1395 01:09:40,889 --> 01:09:45,977 to a worldwide broadcast, you hurt real people. 1396 01:09:45,977 --> 01:09:47,604 You understand that now, right? 1397 01:09:53,318 --> 01:09:56,613 I mean-- You still don't care, do you? 1398 01:09:56,613 --> 01:09:57,989 I do care. 1399 01:09:57,989 --> 01:10:00,325 - Will there be a clarification 1400 01:10:00,325 --> 01:10:02,827 from Heslin or Megyn Kelly? 1401 01:10:03,745 --> 01:10:05,997 I wouldn't hold your breath. 1402 01:10:05,997 --> 01:10:08,750 So now they're fueling the conspiracy theory claims. 1403 01:10:08,750 --> 01:10:11,044 Unbelievable. We'll be right back with more. 1404 01:10:13,046 --> 01:10:16,049 Why in the world would Neil Heslin 1405 01:10:16,049 --> 01:10:18,510 - owe you an explanation? - He doesn't. 1406 01:10:20,845 --> 01:10:22,889 Do you think Scarlett and Neil deserve better 1407 01:10:22,889 --> 01:10:24,349 than what you did that day? 1408 01:10:24,891 --> 01:10:25,892 Yes. 1409 01:10:29,521 --> 01:10:32,649 So right after you called Neil Heslin a liar, 1410 01:10:32,649 --> 01:10:34,901 they ran a commercial for a product 1411 01:10:34,901 --> 01:10:38,947 that they sell on their website called Z-Shield, right? 1412 01:10:38,947 --> 01:10:42,200 Well, yes, when we go to a break, we run commercials. 1413 01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:45,120 Right. Because Infowars 1414 01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,205 is actually an infomercial, 1415 01:10:47,205 --> 01:10:48,665 - right? - No. 1416 01:10:55,964 --> 01:10:58,258 Thank you for joining us on this live Tuesday 1417 01:10:58,258 --> 01:10:59,718 worldwide transmission. 1418 01:11:01,678 --> 01:11:03,972 I'm hosting this hour, and then I'm gonna get in a car 1419 01:11:03,972 --> 01:11:08,268 and drive down to testify today in the show trial. 1420 01:11:09,394 --> 01:11:10,729 It's demonic. 1421 01:11:10,729 --> 01:11:12,480 They all act demonically possessed. 1422 01:11:12,480 --> 01:11:14,524 The judge, the lawyers. 1423 01:11:15,608 --> 01:11:18,194 It's surreal to be around them. 1424 01:11:18,194 --> 01:11:19,863 Mr. Neil Heslin to the stand. 1425 01:11:19,863 --> 01:11:22,115 All right, Mr. Heslin, you'll come in front of me, please, 1426 01:11:22,115 --> 01:11:23,199 so I can swear you in. 1427 01:11:23,199 --> 01:11:24,826 The judge is primping, 1428 01:11:24,826 --> 01:11:27,871 and they've got an HBO camera with her all mic-ed up in there. 1429 01:11:27,871 --> 01:11:28,747 "Oh! Oh" 1430 01:11:28,747 --> 01:11:30,415 They've got dozens of cameras in there. 1431 01:11:30,415 --> 01:11:34,210 Then they go, "This man tortured these innocent people 1432 01:11:34,210 --> 01:11:35,712 for ten years." 1433 01:11:38,381 --> 01:11:39,632 Mr. Heslin... 1434 01:11:40,967 --> 01:11:43,803 Mr. Jones's attorney said that he would be here today. 1435 01:11:45,430 --> 01:11:46,556 How does it make you feel, 1436 01:11:46,556 --> 01:11:49,517 sitting in this courtroom right now, 1437 01:11:49,517 --> 01:11:52,771 that Mr. Jones is not sitting here facing you? 1438 01:11:54,064 --> 01:11:55,774 I think it's a disrespect 1439 01:11:56,775 --> 01:11:59,861 and I think it's a cowardly act of Alex Jones 1440 01:11:59,861 --> 01:12:02,572 not to be facing me here in this courtroom. 1441 01:12:05,367 --> 01:12:07,952 I've now met Neil Heslin. 1442 01:12:07,952 --> 01:12:10,038 And I'll just say it, 'cause I gotta be honest. 1443 01:12:10,038 --> 01:12:11,122 He's slow. 1444 01:12:11,122 --> 01:12:13,083 And now that I've been around him for over a week, 1445 01:12:13,083 --> 01:12:14,709 I'm like, "Okay." 1446 01:12:16,336 --> 01:12:22,008 Mr. Heslin, did you hear what was being said 1447 01:12:22,008 --> 01:12:25,178 by Alex Jones and his associates 1448 01:12:25,178 --> 01:12:29,683 as a denial that Jesse ever existed? 1449 01:12:30,141 --> 01:12:31,351 Yes. 1450 01:12:33,228 --> 01:12:34,479 He did live. 1451 01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:37,107 I was blessed with him for six and a half years. 1452 01:12:41,778 --> 01:12:44,614 I did hold my son with a bullet hole in his head. 1453 01:12:45,573 --> 01:12:47,492 This trial is the only way 1454 01:12:47,492 --> 01:12:50,453 I can restore my credibility and reputation. 1455 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:58,003 And Jesse's legacy and honor, 1456 01:12:58,003 --> 01:13:00,046 as he so much deserves. 1457 01:13:08,179 --> 01:13:11,933 Neil had always talked about wanting his day in court 1458 01:13:11,933 --> 01:13:14,227 and he wanted to face Jones. 1459 01:13:14,227 --> 01:13:17,272 And actually, for me, 1460 01:13:17,272 --> 01:13:21,568 that was a pretty scary thing to think about. 1461 01:13:23,820 --> 01:13:26,031 And, you know, he wasn't in court a lot, 1462 01:13:26,031 --> 01:13:28,908 so you could never predict when he was going to be in court 1463 01:13:28,908 --> 01:13:30,076 and when he wasn't. 1464 01:13:34,664 --> 01:13:36,332 How are you doing today, Mr. Jones? 1465 01:13:36,332 --> 01:13:37,375 Doing great. 1466 01:13:37,375 --> 01:13:38,585 Mr. Jones, can you tell us 1467 01:13:38,585 --> 01:13:40,128 why you weren't in trial this morning? 1468 01:13:40,128 --> 01:13:41,921 The whole country is turning against the Democratic Party. 1469 01:13:54,642 --> 01:13:56,519 And there he is. 1470 01:14:03,777 --> 01:14:06,946 My stomach just turned over. 1471 01:14:06,946 --> 01:14:08,948 It did a flip-flop. 1472 01:14:08,948 --> 01:14:10,575 Spit your gum out, Mr. Jones. 1473 01:14:10,575 --> 01:14:12,577 -It's not gum. -Well, what is it? 1474 01:14:13,286 --> 01:14:14,621 'Cause you're not allowed food 1475 01:14:14,621 --> 01:14:16,956 or gum of any kind in the courtroom. 1476 01:14:16,956 --> 01:14:20,418 I had my tooth pulled a week and a half ago, 1477 01:14:20,418 --> 01:14:22,629 and it's-- I had some gauze in there earlier. 1478 01:14:22,629 --> 01:14:24,923 So you're chewing on your gauze? 1479 01:14:24,923 --> 01:14:26,299 Would you like me to show you? 1480 01:14:26,299 --> 01:14:27,842 - No. - I can show you right here. 1481 01:14:27,842 --> 01:14:30,595 I don't want to see the inside of your mouth. 1482 01:14:30,595 --> 01:14:32,097 No, there's no gum. 1483 01:14:33,390 --> 01:14:35,100 - Hole. -Sit down. 1484 01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:39,938 We're bringing the jury in. 1485 01:14:53,118 --> 01:14:55,954 He's sitting right in front of me, 1486 01:14:55,954 --> 01:14:58,832 and I'm looking right into his eyes. 1487 01:15:05,922 --> 01:15:07,424 Are you pleased that you at least 1488 01:15:07,424 --> 01:15:09,926 now finally get to look this man in the eye? 1489 01:15:10,802 --> 01:15:11,803 Yes. 1490 01:15:12,846 --> 01:15:15,640 I wanted to tell you, to your face, 1491 01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:17,350 because I wanted you to know 1492 01:15:17,350 --> 01:15:20,562 that I am a mother, first and foremost. 1493 01:15:20,562 --> 01:15:22,564 And I know that you're a father. 1494 01:15:22,564 --> 01:15:24,691 And my son existed. 1495 01:15:24,691 --> 01:15:28,528 You're still on your show today, trying to say 1496 01:15:28,528 --> 01:15:33,533 that I'm... implying that I'm an actress. 1497 01:15:33,533 --> 01:15:37,078 That I'm deep state. You have, this week. 1498 01:15:37,078 --> 01:15:41,750 And truth is what we base our reality on. 1499 01:15:41,750 --> 01:15:46,629 And we have to agree on that to have a civil society. 1500 01:15:47,505 --> 01:15:50,258 Sandy Hook is a hard truth. 1501 01:15:50,258 --> 01:15:53,511 And having a quarter of Americans 1502 01:15:53,511 --> 01:15:55,555 doubt that Sandy Hook happened, 1503 01:15:55,555 --> 01:15:58,683 or doubt the facts around Sandy Hook, 1504 01:15:58,683 --> 01:16:01,561 is not conducive to keeping our kids safe. 1505 01:16:01,561 --> 01:16:02,854 It's not. 1506 01:16:03,938 --> 01:16:06,775 Jesse was real. I am a real mom. 1507 01:16:06,775 --> 01:16:09,736 I know you know that. That's the problem. 1508 01:16:09,736 --> 01:16:14,074 I know you know that, and you keep saying it. 1509 01:16:14,074 --> 01:16:19,871 You keep saying it. Why? Why? For money? 1510 01:16:21,706 --> 01:16:24,584 Because you've made a lot of money while you've said it. 1511 01:16:24,584 --> 01:16:27,337 I know you're-- I mean... 1512 01:16:33,176 --> 01:16:34,386 I know you believe me. 1513 01:16:35,387 --> 01:16:36,554 And yet you're going to get-- 1514 01:16:36,554 --> 01:16:38,723 You're going to leave this courthouse 1515 01:16:38,723 --> 01:16:41,142 and you're going to say it again on your show. 1516 01:16:43,770 --> 01:16:46,064 You're saying no. You just did it. 1517 01:16:49,818 --> 01:16:51,152 Did you have an opportunity 1518 01:16:51,152 --> 01:16:55,657 to hear what Mr. Jones had said on his show, 1519 01:16:55,657 --> 01:16:57,826 not 45 minutes or so ago, 1520 01:16:57,826 --> 01:17:00,829 about Mr. Heslin and his testimony? 1521 01:17:01,579 --> 01:17:02,414 Yes. 1522 01:17:02,414 --> 01:17:03,707 I'm going to object, Your Honor. 1523 01:17:03,707 --> 01:17:06,710 It's an edited clip. 1524 01:17:06,710 --> 01:17:08,294 I don't think it should be played. 1525 01:17:08,294 --> 01:17:09,379 Overruled. 1526 01:17:10,755 --> 01:17:12,632 I mean, I'll just say it 'cause I gotta be honest. 1527 01:17:12,632 --> 01:17:14,467 He's slow. Okay? 1528 01:17:14,467 --> 01:17:15,927 I don't think he's stupid. 1529 01:17:15,927 --> 01:17:17,804 I'm just saying he's... he's... 1530 01:17:17,804 --> 01:17:21,099 I mean, I think Heslin acts like somebody on the spectrum, 1531 01:17:21,099 --> 01:17:23,810 and it makes me feel like an even bigger jerk. 1532 01:17:26,730 --> 01:17:28,982 How does it make you feel, 1533 01:17:28,982 --> 01:17:34,404 knowing that that was said today by this man on his radio show 1534 01:17:34,404 --> 01:17:36,990 while Jesse's father was testifying 1535 01:17:36,990 --> 01:17:39,617 in that same seat you're sitting in? 1536 01:17:39,617 --> 01:17:45,123 It makes me feel... astounded in a bad way. 1537 01:17:45,123 --> 01:17:50,337 It's horrific. Horrific. Horrific. 1538 01:17:51,588 --> 01:17:53,131 You have a claim 1539 01:17:53,131 --> 01:17:56,801 for intentional infliction of emotional distress. 1540 01:17:56,801 --> 01:17:58,595 - Do you not? - Yes. 1541 01:17:58,595 --> 01:18:02,349 And what do you hope will be accomplished? 1542 01:18:04,267 --> 01:18:05,477 In some way, 1543 01:18:05,477 --> 01:18:09,439 you've impacted every single day of my life negatively 1544 01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:12,359 since-- almost since Jesse's murder. 1545 01:18:14,110 --> 01:18:17,822 Alex has been asked to stop, and he hasn't. 1546 01:18:17,822 --> 01:18:19,449 He's still doing it today. 1547 01:18:20,992 --> 01:18:23,161 So you're not going to stop. 1548 01:18:24,204 --> 01:18:27,665 I don't even think my pleading with you up here 1549 01:18:27,665 --> 01:18:29,209 is going to get you to stop. 1550 01:18:29,834 --> 01:18:34,798 It seems so incredible to me 1551 01:18:35,757 --> 01:18:38,176 that we have to do this. 1552 01:18:41,596 --> 01:18:45,350 That we have to implore you, 1553 01:18:46,601 --> 01:18:48,103 not just implore you, 1554 01:18:48,103 --> 01:18:52,232 punish you to get you to stop lying, 1555 01:18:53,775 --> 01:18:56,111 saying it's a hoax. It happened. 1556 01:18:56,111 --> 01:18:58,988 It's, like, surreal, what's going on in here. 1557 01:18:58,988 --> 01:19:02,409 I think everyone in here probably feels that way. 1558 01:19:08,707 --> 01:19:12,210 I hope to accomplish an era of truth. 1559 01:19:13,670 --> 01:19:15,380 An era of truth. 1560 01:19:19,759 --> 01:19:21,011 Please. 1561 01:19:32,355 --> 01:19:36,276 Mr. Reynal, do you have a witness for the jury? 1562 01:19:37,110 --> 01:19:37,986 I do. 1563 01:19:37,986 --> 01:19:40,405 The defense would call Alex E. Jones. 1564 01:19:40,405 --> 01:19:41,448 All right, Mr. Jones, 1565 01:19:41,448 --> 01:19:43,074 come stand in front of me, please. 1566 01:19:44,492 --> 01:19:45,869 Raise your right hand. 1567 01:19:45,869 --> 01:19:47,787 Do you solemnly swear or affirm, 1568 01:19:47,787 --> 01:19:49,164 under penalty of perjury, 1569 01:19:49,164 --> 01:19:51,166 that the testimony you are about to give 1570 01:19:51,166 --> 01:19:53,168 shall be the truth, the whole truth, 1571 01:19:53,168 --> 01:19:55,337 - and nothing but the truth? - I do. 1572 01:19:55,337 --> 01:19:57,130 Thank you. Come have a seat. 1573 01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:03,428 He didn't have to be there. 1574 01:20:03,428 --> 01:20:05,096 You know, he wasn't subpoenaed. 1575 01:20:05,096 --> 01:20:07,640 You know, within the bounds of what was allowed, 1576 01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:09,517 we tried to let him tell his story. 1577 01:20:11,353 --> 01:20:13,396 Alex, would you please introduce yourself 1578 01:20:13,396 --> 01:20:15,273 to the ladies and gentlemen of the jury? 1579 01:20:15,273 --> 01:20:16,441 Hi, I'm Alex Jones. 1580 01:20:18,276 --> 01:20:19,986 How are you feeling today, Alex? 1581 01:20:20,737 --> 01:20:22,030 I actually feel good 1582 01:20:22,030 --> 01:20:24,991 because I get a chance to, for the first time, 1583 01:20:24,991 --> 01:20:27,869 say what's really going on, instead of the corporate media 1584 01:20:27,869 --> 01:20:29,120 and high-powered law firms 1585 01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:30,955 manipulating what I actually did. 1586 01:20:30,955 --> 01:20:32,999 I just do want to say this on record, 1587 01:20:32,999 --> 01:20:34,125 'cause I've said it many times... 1588 01:20:34,125 --> 01:20:35,293 Objection, non-responsive. 1589 01:20:35,293 --> 01:20:37,128 - I apologize to both-- -Uh! Sustained. 1590 01:20:37,128 --> 01:20:39,798 So, Mr. Jones, this is not a conversation. 1591 01:20:39,798 --> 01:20:41,466 It's question and answer. 1592 01:20:41,466 --> 01:20:43,760 So she got to monologue but not me. I got it. 1593 01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:47,597 And so you have to only answer questions 1594 01:20:47,597 --> 01:20:48,890 that are asked of you. 1595 01:20:49,474 --> 01:20:50,475 You may proceed. 1596 01:20:52,644 --> 01:20:58,441 Mr. Jones, have you been wanting to apologize 1597 01:20:58,441 --> 01:21:00,985 to the plaintiffs in this case for a long time? 1598 01:21:00,985 --> 01:21:01,986 Yes. 1599 01:21:01,986 --> 01:21:04,489 And what would you like to say to them? 1600 01:21:04,489 --> 01:21:08,076 That I never intentionally tried to hurt you. 1601 01:21:08,076 --> 01:21:12,080 Today, where they play a 30 s-- or one-minute clip, 1602 01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,457 and I knew that I said, "I believe 1603 01:21:14,457 --> 01:21:19,504 that Scarlett Lewis is real and she's a really nice person 1604 01:21:19,504 --> 01:21:21,047 and she's really a sweet person." 1605 01:21:21,047 --> 01:21:23,717 And then I went through and talked about her ex-husband too. 1606 01:21:23,717 --> 01:21:26,052 And then... then I said, "I believe they're being fed and manipulated." 1607 01:21:26,052 --> 01:21:27,804 Your Honor, objection, non-responsive. 1608 01:21:27,804 --> 01:21:29,347 Sustained. 1609 01:21:29,347 --> 01:21:31,141 - This is a perfect-- -Sustained. 1610 01:21:31,141 --> 01:21:33,518 When you hear sustained, you have to stop talking. 1611 01:21:33,518 --> 01:21:35,020 Okay. Okay. 1612 01:21:36,896 --> 01:21:39,149 Excuse me. Sorry. 1613 01:21:39,149 --> 01:21:42,485 - Mr. Jones. - Oh, thank you very much. 1614 01:21:42,485 --> 01:21:45,030 I'm sorry. I just... I just... 1615 01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:48,199 I'm about to have to have surgery on this. It's... 1616 01:21:48,199 --> 01:21:49,659 It's been like this for ten years, 1617 01:21:49,659 --> 01:21:51,369 but it's really bad now. 1618 01:21:51,369 --> 01:21:56,291 Let's talk about Infowars and its business model. 1619 01:21:57,167 --> 01:21:59,711 - Do you sell vitamins? - Yes. 1620 01:21:59,711 --> 01:22:03,256 We have them made by the... the top lab 1621 01:22:03,256 --> 01:22:05,091 recognized in the United States. 1622 01:22:05,091 --> 01:22:07,177 All we do is put our label on it, 1623 01:22:07,177 --> 01:22:09,929 so we know it's triple-tested, the highest quality. 1624 01:22:09,929 --> 01:22:11,264 And that's why people love it 1625 01:22:11,264 --> 01:22:14,893 because it is the best out there. 1626 01:22:14,893 --> 01:22:16,019 There's all sorts of crap 1627 01:22:16,019 --> 01:22:17,812 you can buy at a gas station out there. 1628 01:22:17,812 --> 01:22:19,481 That's not what ours is. 1629 01:22:19,481 --> 01:22:24,402 I mean, we buy our PQQ and CoQ10 from the Japanese. 1630 01:22:24,402 --> 01:22:26,613 I mean, it's the best. 1631 01:22:30,950 --> 01:22:32,535 Let's discuss email. 1632 01:22:32,535 --> 01:22:36,706 How much email does Infowars routinely get? 1633 01:22:37,791 --> 01:22:41,086 Uh, I mean... I mean, I know when we looked to comply 1634 01:22:41,086 --> 01:22:43,588 with the discovery, which we complied with, 1635 01:22:43,588 --> 01:22:45,924 it was over ten million that they had to search 1636 01:22:45,924 --> 01:22:48,218 that was still in the inbox, unopened. 1637 01:22:48,218 --> 01:22:51,513 How many employees would Infowars have to have, 1638 01:22:51,513 --> 01:22:55,225 in your view, if you were to actually read every message, 1639 01:22:55,225 --> 01:22:58,144 every email, every tip that's sent in? 1640 01:22:59,187 --> 01:23:00,939 It would take ten, 15, 20 people. 1641 01:23:00,939 --> 01:23:02,732 We'd go bankrupt, which we are now. But... 1642 01:23:05,652 --> 01:23:07,946 Your Honor, I have a couple motions I'm gonna need to take up 1643 01:23:07,946 --> 01:23:09,114 outside the presence of the jury. 1644 01:23:09,114 --> 01:23:10,448 I don't know if you want to do that now 1645 01:23:10,448 --> 01:23:12,117 or wait till he's done with his direct. 1646 01:23:12,117 --> 01:23:14,869 All right. We're gonna-- 1647 01:23:14,869 --> 01:23:17,205 Just-- just sit tight for a second. 1648 01:23:18,957 --> 01:23:20,583 We're going to take a break. 1649 01:23:20,583 --> 01:23:23,378 - All right, thank you. -All rise. 1650 01:23:26,589 --> 01:23:28,091 I don't know what's going on, Your Honor, 1651 01:23:28,091 --> 01:23:29,843 but I need to bring a couple of motions there 1652 01:23:29,843 --> 01:23:31,428 for jury instructions. 1653 01:23:31,428 --> 01:23:35,098 Mr. Reynal just absolutely solicited direct testimony 1654 01:23:35,098 --> 01:23:37,142 from Mr. Jones that he is bankrupt. 1655 01:23:37,142 --> 01:23:39,561 Mr. Jones has testified straight into the record 1656 01:23:39,561 --> 01:23:42,230 that he's bankrupt, which is not true. 1657 01:23:42,230 --> 01:23:44,399 Mr. Jones just intentionally did that 1658 01:23:44,399 --> 01:23:47,152 in violation of your order to attempt to poison 1659 01:23:47,152 --> 01:23:48,486 this compensatory damage verdict, 1660 01:23:48,486 --> 01:23:52,073 to try to tell this jury that he's broke when he's not. 1661 01:23:52,073 --> 01:23:53,950 The second is that he absolutely-- 1662 01:23:53,950 --> 01:23:57,245 Mr. Jones just fully testified, "We complied with discovery," 1663 01:23:57,245 --> 01:24:00,498 but we both know Mr. Jones did anything but comply 1664 01:24:00,498 --> 01:24:02,709 with discovery and did that for four years, 1665 01:24:02,709 --> 01:24:06,755 thumbing his nose in the face of this court in rank contempt. 1666 01:24:08,631 --> 01:24:09,632 Mr. Jones... 1667 01:24:12,093 --> 01:24:15,180 you may not say to this jury... 1668 01:24:16,973 --> 01:24:18,808 that you complied with discovery. 1669 01:24:20,018 --> 01:24:23,772 That is not true. You may not say it again. 1670 01:24:25,190 --> 01:24:29,152 You may not tell this jury that you are bankrupt. 1671 01:24:29,152 --> 01:24:31,529 That is also not true. 1672 01:24:32,447 --> 01:24:33,448 It seems... 1673 01:24:34,866 --> 01:24:37,702 absurd to instruct you again 1674 01:24:37,702 --> 01:24:41,414 that you must tell the truth while you testify. 1675 01:24:41,414 --> 01:24:42,374 Yet here I am. 1676 01:24:42,374 --> 01:24:45,960 You must tell the truth while you testify. 1677 01:24:45,960 --> 01:24:48,546 This is not your show. 1678 01:24:50,090 --> 01:24:52,509 Do you understand what I have said? 1679 01:24:52,509 --> 01:24:53,426 Yes or no? 1680 01:24:53,426 --> 01:24:56,388 Do you understand what I have said? 1681 01:24:56,388 --> 01:24:58,890 Yes. I believe what I said was true. So-- 1682 01:24:58,890 --> 01:25:02,936 Yes, you believe everything you say is true, but it isn't. 1683 01:25:02,936 --> 01:25:05,522 Your beliefs do not make something true. 1684 01:25:05,522 --> 01:25:09,234 That is... That is what we're doing here. 1685 01:25:10,568 --> 01:25:12,696 You understand what I have said? 1686 01:25:12,696 --> 01:25:13,655 I do understand. 1687 01:25:13,655 --> 01:25:16,241 You understand the instructions I have given you 1688 01:25:16,241 --> 01:25:18,076 for your testimony in court? 1689 01:25:18,076 --> 01:25:20,328 Yes. 1690 01:25:20,328 --> 01:25:24,457 I am not going to bring the jury back today. 1691 01:25:25,542 --> 01:25:27,544 All right. We'll see you tomorrow. 1692 01:25:27,544 --> 01:25:30,213 - Thank you. -All rise. 1693 01:25:33,591 --> 01:25:36,553 He had been coughing a lot 1694 01:25:36,553 --> 01:25:40,223 and he had explained that his larynx was torn. 1695 01:25:40,223 --> 01:25:44,644 And I felt such tremendous compassion for him. 1696 01:25:47,522 --> 01:25:51,234 And so brought him a water and four cough drops. 1697 01:25:53,987 --> 01:25:55,947 Oh, thank you. You're very sweet. 1698 01:26:12,797 --> 01:26:14,299 I want you to know that. 1699 01:26:18,136 --> 01:26:19,262 I believe your son died, 1700 01:26:19,262 --> 01:26:20,638 and I apologize for everything that happened. 1701 01:26:20,638 --> 01:26:22,557 And that he's slow and autistic. Thanks, Jones. 1702 01:26:22,557 --> 01:26:25,352 No, I'm slow about certain things, too. I said... 1703 01:26:25,352 --> 01:26:27,103 Well, anyways, I was being honest on air. 1704 01:26:27,103 --> 01:26:28,480 And I think people have been-- 1705 01:26:28,480 --> 01:26:30,190 I think a lot of the stuff you said-- 1706 01:26:30,190 --> 01:26:32,567 have been manipulating and giving you guys stuff-- 1707 01:26:32,567 --> 01:26:33,860 That's it. We're not talking anymore. 1708 01:26:33,860 --> 01:26:36,321 You're not doing this. That's not even a thought. 1709 01:26:36,321 --> 01:26:38,531 That's not the way this goes. 1710 01:26:38,531 --> 01:26:40,825 Why? 'Cause you can't feed 'em fake videos anymore? 1711 01:26:40,825 --> 01:26:42,786 Oh, shut your mouth. 1712 01:26:42,786 --> 01:26:44,371 That's what you try to do is shut my mouth. 1713 01:26:44,371 --> 01:26:45,914 - You'll never succeed. -Let it go. 1714 01:26:45,914 --> 01:26:48,458 -That's okay. -Don't touch me, sir. 1715 01:26:49,501 --> 01:26:51,628 Well, I think I'm autistic too, mate. 1716 01:26:53,046 --> 01:26:55,256 -Stop there and stay. 1717 01:26:57,467 --> 01:26:58,843 See that? They came over to see us. 1718 01:27:10,438 --> 01:27:13,858 Mr. Jones, I want to know, 1719 01:27:15,235 --> 01:27:16,528 you taking this trial seriously? 1720 01:27:16,528 --> 01:27:17,946 You're approaching it in good faith? 1721 01:27:19,030 --> 01:27:21,199 - Absolutely. -Okay. 1722 01:27:21,199 --> 01:27:24,536 The truth is, you and your company 1723 01:27:24,536 --> 01:27:27,622 want the world to believe 1724 01:27:27,622 --> 01:27:31,960 that this judge is rigging this court proceeding 1725 01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:34,337 to make sure that a script, 1726 01:27:35,171 --> 01:27:39,342 a literal script, is being followed. 1727 01:27:39,342 --> 01:27:41,219 That's what you want the world to believe. 1728 01:27:41,219 --> 01:27:42,595 No, I believe the jury's real. 1729 01:27:42,595 --> 01:27:43,930 Okay. Your Honor, at this time, 1730 01:27:43,930 --> 01:27:46,182 we'd like to offer a clip from Infowars on Friday 1731 01:27:46,182 --> 01:27:47,726 from the purposes of impeachment 1732 01:27:47,726 --> 01:27:50,395 in which those exact words were said. 1733 01:27:50,395 --> 01:27:53,314 So that's why the judge is rigging the court proceeding, 1734 01:27:53,314 --> 01:27:55,275 to make sure that the script, 1735 01:27:55,275 --> 01:27:56,943 this is literally a script, 1736 01:27:56,943 --> 01:28:01,072 a script gets told in a certain way for future audiences. 1737 01:28:04,242 --> 01:28:05,744 That's from your show, isn't it? 1738 01:28:07,412 --> 01:28:10,540 - That's justice on fire. -Oh, okay. 1739 01:28:10,540 --> 01:28:12,876 - Can I see it, please? -Yes, you may, Your Honor. 1740 01:28:19,007 --> 01:28:21,217 This is you taking this trial seriously 1741 01:28:21,217 --> 01:28:23,595 and in good faith? That's what this is? 1742 01:28:23,595 --> 01:28:26,931 The judge is the fire of burning Lady Liberty. 1743 01:28:26,931 --> 01:28:28,183 It's not the judge... 1744 01:28:28,183 --> 01:28:32,520 The judge is consuming freedom. 1745 01:28:32,520 --> 01:28:34,481 I sure hope some of your viewers 1746 01:28:34,481 --> 01:28:35,732 are able to make that distinction 1747 01:28:35,732 --> 01:28:37,901 that you just split on that hair, don't you? 1748 01:28:39,569 --> 01:28:41,112 One of the things you talked about yesterday 1749 01:28:41,112 --> 01:28:42,405 is you complied with discovery, 1750 01:28:42,405 --> 01:28:43,448 you said that on the witness stand? 1751 01:28:43,448 --> 01:28:45,283 That's one of the things I talked about. 1752 01:28:45,283 --> 01:28:47,994 Okay. One of the things that you were ordered to do 1753 01:28:47,994 --> 01:28:49,954 in this lawsuit... 1754 01:28:49,954 --> 01:28:51,998 you were ordered to turn over 1755 01:28:51,998 --> 01:28:55,210 any text messages mentioning Sandy Hook, right? 1756 01:28:55,210 --> 01:28:57,837 - Yes. - And you didn't have any. Right? 1757 01:28:59,089 --> 01:29:00,423 Not that we could find. 1758 01:29:00,423 --> 01:29:03,635 And you, in fact, told me in your sworn testimony, 1759 01:29:03,635 --> 01:29:06,429 before coming to this courtroom, you searched, right? 1760 01:29:06,429 --> 01:29:07,889 -I did. - Okay. 1761 01:29:11,476 --> 01:29:13,978 Mr. Jones, I'd like to show you what's been marked 1762 01:29:13,978 --> 01:29:15,814 as claimant's exhibit 130. 1763 01:29:19,109 --> 01:29:20,485 - That's text messages. - Yes. 1764 01:29:20,485 --> 01:29:22,237 And they mention Sandy Hook, don't they? 1765 01:29:22,237 --> 01:29:23,947 Yes. 1766 01:29:25,198 --> 01:29:27,033 I've never seen this text message. 1767 01:29:27,033 --> 01:29:28,118 You guys have all this stuff, 1768 01:29:28,118 --> 01:29:29,661 and you say we didn't give anything. 1769 01:29:30,704 --> 01:29:32,956 So you did get my text messages. 1770 01:29:32,956 --> 01:29:34,874 You said you didn't. Nice trick. 1771 01:29:34,874 --> 01:29:37,836 Twelve days ago, your attorneys messed up 1772 01:29:37,836 --> 01:29:41,214 and sent me an entire digital copy 1773 01:29:41,214 --> 01:29:43,216 of your entire cell phone 1774 01:29:43,216 --> 01:29:45,885 with every text message you've sent 1775 01:29:45,885 --> 01:29:47,345 for the past two years. 1776 01:29:47,345 --> 01:29:49,848 And that is how I know you lied to me 1777 01:29:49,848 --> 01:29:51,850 when you said you didn't have text messages 1778 01:29:51,850 --> 01:29:53,810 about Sandy Hook. Did you know that? 1779 01:29:53,810 --> 01:29:57,188 I-- See, I told you the truth. This is your Perry Mason moment. 1780 01:29:57,188 --> 01:29:59,816 I gave them my phone. And then-- 1781 01:29:59,816 --> 01:30:01,735 Mr. Jones, you need to answer the question. 1782 01:30:01,735 --> 01:30:03,528 - No, I-- - Did you know this happened? 1783 01:30:03,528 --> 01:30:04,863 No, I didn't know this happened. 1784 01:30:04,863 --> 01:30:07,532 But I mean, I told you. I gave my phone over. 1785 01:30:07,532 --> 01:30:09,325 Just answer the question. 1786 01:30:09,325 --> 01:30:10,618 You said in your deposition, 1787 01:30:10,618 --> 01:30:12,704 you searched your phone. 1788 01:30:13,288 --> 01:30:14,539 You were asked, 1789 01:30:14,539 --> 01:30:17,834 "Do you have Sandy Hook text messages on your phone?" 1790 01:30:17,834 --> 01:30:19,002 And you said, "No." 1791 01:30:19,002 --> 01:30:21,504 You said that under oath, Mr. Jones, didn't you? 1792 01:30:21,504 --> 01:30:23,548 I mean, if I was mistaken, I was mistaken. 1793 01:30:23,548 --> 01:30:25,508 But you've got the messages right there. 1794 01:30:25,508 --> 01:30:27,052 You know what perjury is, right? 1795 01:30:27,719 --> 01:30:28,928 I just want to make sure you know 1796 01:30:28,928 --> 01:30:30,555 before we go any further. You know what it is. 1797 01:30:31,389 --> 01:30:32,390 Yes, I do. 1798 01:30:32,390 --> 01:30:35,602 But you testified, under oath, previously, 1799 01:30:35,602 --> 01:30:39,272 that you, personally, searched your phone, 1800 01:30:39,272 --> 01:30:42,567 for the phrase "Sandy Hook" and there were no messages. 1801 01:30:42,567 --> 01:30:44,569 - You said that under oath. -Yes. 1802 01:30:44,569 --> 01:30:47,238 - And you lied when you said it. - No, I did not lie. 1803 01:30:48,740 --> 01:30:52,911 Are you aware that your attorney has argued 1804 01:30:52,911 --> 01:30:56,414 this is what you should pay for the damages? 1805 01:30:56,414 --> 01:30:57,749 Do you agree with it? 1806 01:30:57,749 --> 01:31:00,085 - Do I agree with it? - A dollar. A dollar, is that... 1807 01:31:01,419 --> 01:31:02,921 We done? 1808 01:31:02,921 --> 01:31:04,673 I'll pay it for you. Are we done? 1809 01:31:04,673 --> 01:31:07,050 What does the New York Times do for lying about WMDs? 1810 01:31:07,050 --> 01:31:08,426 I don't think there's any point 1811 01:31:08,426 --> 01:31:10,178 in asking you any more questions, Mr. Jones. 1812 01:31:10,178 --> 01:31:11,388 Okay. 1813 01:31:21,481 --> 01:31:22,941 It couldn't have gone better. 1814 01:31:22,941 --> 01:31:25,985 This case was going to end just like it began. 1815 01:31:27,529 --> 01:31:29,280 The very first question I ever asked Jones 1816 01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:31,199 was about, "Why are you lying to me?" 1817 01:31:31,199 --> 01:31:33,451 And the very last thing I ever showed the jury was, 1818 01:31:33,451 --> 01:31:34,744 "This man's a liar." 1819 01:31:42,460 --> 01:31:44,295 Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, 1820 01:31:44,295 --> 01:31:48,508 at this time, I will present to you the charge of the court. 1821 01:31:48,508 --> 01:31:51,302 You will go to the jury room to decide the case, 1822 01:31:51,302 --> 01:31:54,806 answer the questions that are attached, and reach a verdict. 1823 01:31:56,141 --> 01:31:59,894 Answer separately in dollars and cents for each person 1824 01:31:59,894 --> 01:32:02,564 for the damages listed below, if any. 1825 01:32:04,024 --> 01:32:05,608 All rise. 1826 01:32:26,338 --> 01:32:28,465 Hello, we love you. 1827 01:32:29,591 --> 01:32:31,343 You guys got any questions? 1828 01:32:31,343 --> 01:32:33,178 Just your thoughts on today. 1829 01:32:33,845 --> 01:32:36,473 Our side told the truth. 1830 01:32:36,473 --> 01:32:38,683 Their lawyers did nothing but lie. 1831 01:32:38,683 --> 01:32:41,811 But there's no deep pockets here, 1832 01:32:41,811 --> 01:32:43,104 so they're in for a rude awakening. 1833 01:32:43,104 --> 01:32:46,399 So no matter what the verdict is, I'm at peace. 1834 01:32:46,399 --> 01:32:47,901 I always try to tell the truth. 1835 01:32:47,901 --> 01:32:49,986 What did you think about the text messages? 1836 01:32:49,986 --> 01:32:51,696 God bless, guys. Appreciate you for coming. 1837 01:32:51,696 --> 01:32:54,699 We love you Love, love, love. 1838 01:32:58,703 --> 01:32:59,913 What was that Tom Petty said, 1839 01:32:59,913 --> 01:33:01,289 "Waiting is the hardest part"? 1840 01:33:06,378 --> 01:33:09,255 The idea of him going back and starting this all over again, 1841 01:33:09,255 --> 01:33:10,507 he will. 1842 01:33:10,507 --> 01:33:12,550 That's why for a punitive damage verdict, 1843 01:33:12,550 --> 01:33:14,219 you must take enough 1844 01:33:14,219 --> 01:33:16,888 so that he can never re-enter public life. 1845 01:33:18,056 --> 01:33:19,057 Because if you do-- 1846 01:33:19,057 --> 01:33:22,435 If this isn't his exit from the American stage, 1847 01:33:22,435 --> 01:33:24,771 his story is nowhere near close to over. 1848 01:33:39,953 --> 01:33:41,371 - Mm-hmm. -All rise. 1849 01:33:48,837 --> 01:33:50,672 All right, you may be seated. 1850 01:33:52,048 --> 01:33:53,508 All right, could you hand the verdict 1851 01:33:53,508 --> 01:33:56,678 to Ms. Matusek-Steele, please. Thank you. 1852 01:33:58,555 --> 01:33:59,764 Thank you. 1853 01:34:12,736 --> 01:34:14,237 Question number one, 1854 01:34:15,280 --> 01:34:17,240 4,200,000 dollars. 1855 01:34:19,784 --> 01:34:21,286 Question number two, 1856 01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:24,289 20,500,000 dollars. 1857 01:34:25,623 --> 01:34:27,709 Question number three, 1858 01:34:27,709 --> 01:34:30,462 20,500,000 dollars. 1859 01:34:54,819 --> 01:34:56,613 It's the end of the beginning. 1860 01:34:56,613 --> 01:34:58,948 And boy, are these clients happy about it. 1861 01:34:58,948 --> 01:35:00,283 There was certainly a message 1862 01:35:00,283 --> 01:35:02,911 sent out of this courthouse today, that's for sure. 1863 01:35:02,911 --> 01:35:04,496 So, what's your message? 1864 01:35:04,496 --> 01:35:08,625 To other parents, I wanted to represent you well. 1865 01:35:08,625 --> 01:35:11,795 I know that you have endured pain, 1866 01:35:11,795 --> 01:35:15,882 um, just like I have over the past ten years. 1867 01:35:15,882 --> 01:35:20,428 I truly do hope and believe that this will usher in 1868 01:35:20,428 --> 01:35:23,848 a new era of the importance of truth. 1869 01:35:26,935 --> 01:35:29,479 It was obviously higher than we wanted, 1870 01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:32,691 higher than I believe was supported by the evidence, 1871 01:35:32,691 --> 01:35:36,528 but it was still a manageable number. 1872 01:35:36,528 --> 01:35:39,030 You know, kept my client alive. 1873 01:35:43,243 --> 01:35:46,037 So, it's day one of another Alex Jones 1874 01:35:46,037 --> 01:35:47,914 defamation trial here in Connecticut. 1875 01:35:47,914 --> 01:35:50,208 We're about 20 miles away from Newtown. 1876 01:35:50,208 --> 01:35:53,294 Even ten years after the Sandy Hook tragedy, 1877 01:35:53,294 --> 01:35:55,463 these Sandy Hook families and victims 1878 01:35:55,463 --> 01:35:57,424 are still facing harassment 1879 01:35:57,424 --> 01:36:02,012 because Jones spread lies and called the shooting a hoax. 1880 01:36:15,066 --> 01:36:16,943 They're coming for everybody, ladies and gentlemen. 1881 01:36:16,943 --> 01:36:18,945 "Alex Jones goes to trial for a second time 1882 01:36:18,945 --> 01:36:20,572 in Sandy Hook hoax case." 1883 01:36:21,406 --> 01:36:22,407 But I'll tell you this, 1884 01:36:22,407 --> 01:36:24,993 we can stay on air through everything they're doing 1885 01:36:24,993 --> 01:36:26,661 if we keep fighting and don't give up. 1886 01:36:26,661 --> 01:36:28,872 But it takes massive money. 1887 01:36:28,872 --> 01:36:30,582 Don't go through everything you've done 1888 01:36:30,582 --> 01:36:33,835 supporting this broadcast and then give up at the end. 1889 01:36:33,835 --> 01:36:36,588 Now is the most critical time ever 1890 01:36:36,588 --> 01:36:40,008 to support infowarsstore.com. 1891 01:36:49,100 --> 01:36:51,144 - Morning. 1892 01:36:52,270 --> 01:36:54,689 Each of you was chosen to be here today 1893 01:36:54,689 --> 01:36:56,816 to compensate them for their grief. 1894 01:36:56,816 --> 01:37:00,445 And you're being asked to make an example of Alex. 1895 01:37:01,112 --> 01:37:03,156 Money is their weapon of choice. 1896 01:37:04,366 --> 01:37:05,617 Money is their weapon. 1897 01:37:06,743 --> 01:37:07,952 Disarm them. 1898 01:37:09,079 --> 01:37:11,081 First, they came for Alex Jones. 1899 01:37:11,873 --> 01:37:12,957 Who's next? 1900 01:37:15,752 --> 01:37:17,253 My name is David Wheeler. 1901 01:37:17,253 --> 01:37:20,715 Last name spelled W-H-E-E-L-E-R. 1902 01:37:20,715 --> 01:37:23,426 - Francine Wheeler. - Erica Lafferty. 1903 01:37:23,426 --> 01:37:25,220 My name is Nicole Hockley. 1904 01:37:25,220 --> 01:37:26,179 I do. 1905 01:37:26,179 --> 01:37:27,972 Our families will take the stand 1906 01:37:27,972 --> 01:37:29,307 and they will testify. 1907 01:37:29,849 --> 01:37:31,142 It took a lot of courage 1908 01:37:31,142 --> 01:37:33,269 to start this case in the first place, 1909 01:37:33,269 --> 01:37:36,773 knowing that they would expose themselves to even more abuse. 1910 01:37:36,773 --> 01:37:38,900 Are you the father 1911 01:37:38,900 --> 01:37:40,443 - of Benjamin Wheeler? - Yes. 1912 01:37:40,443 --> 01:37:42,654 And did Benjamin Wheeler die in the Sandy Hook shooting? 1913 01:37:42,654 --> 01:37:43,780 Yes. 1914 01:37:43,780 --> 01:37:44,989 Just after the two-year anniversary, 1915 01:37:44,989 --> 01:37:46,491 I was on my way to a birthday party 1916 01:37:46,491 --> 01:37:47,367 and I was at a gas station 1917 01:37:47,367 --> 01:37:49,994 and somebody just walked out and pointed 1918 01:37:49,994 --> 01:37:52,455 and was like, "You're part of that Sandy Hook hoax." 1919 01:37:52,455 --> 01:37:55,917 And they said, "Look, see, she's an actor." 1920 01:37:57,210 --> 01:38:00,338 People were, you know, accusing me of lying, 1921 01:38:01,006 --> 01:38:02,340 telling me Ben never lived, 1922 01:38:03,383 --> 01:38:06,386 uh, telling me that I was going to burn in hell, 1923 01:38:06,386 --> 01:38:08,513 and that I would pay for what I had done. 1924 01:38:08,513 --> 01:38:10,432 You know, things would be mailed to my house. 1925 01:38:10,432 --> 01:38:12,392 There were, you know, 1926 01:38:14,019 --> 01:38:18,189 threats of rape and... 1927 01:38:18,189 --> 01:38:20,025 You were receiving threats from people 1928 01:38:20,025 --> 01:38:21,526 saying they were going to rape you? 1929 01:38:21,526 --> 01:38:22,694 Correct. 1930 01:38:22,694 --> 01:38:25,822 Someone came to the house. This person demanded to see Ben. 1931 01:38:25,822 --> 01:38:27,657 "I know he's here. I know he's alive." 1932 01:38:31,036 --> 01:38:32,537 Is this still happening to you? 1933 01:38:33,580 --> 01:38:34,998 Yes. 1934 01:38:34,998 --> 01:38:38,043 You know, it makes you feel like you don't matter. 1935 01:38:38,043 --> 01:38:39,711 You know, it makes you feel like what you went through 1936 01:38:39,711 --> 01:38:41,212 doesn't matter. 1937 01:38:41,212 --> 01:38:46,718 Jacqueline Barden, B-A-R-D-E-N. Daniel was our baby, 1938 01:38:46,718 --> 01:38:49,054 but yet, he was so compassionate. 1939 01:38:49,054 --> 01:38:53,224 Did you and Mark get threatening letters? 1940 01:38:53,224 --> 01:38:56,019 Yeah. One-- I remember one saying 1941 01:38:56,019 --> 01:38:57,896 that they were at Daniel's grave, 1942 01:38:57,896 --> 01:38:59,314 and they had peed on his grave 1943 01:38:59,314 --> 01:39:01,066 because they didn't think anybody, you know, 1944 01:39:01,066 --> 01:39:03,485 they didn't believe that Daniel was buried. 1945 01:39:04,527 --> 01:39:05,945 And another letter-- 1946 01:39:05,945 --> 01:39:07,238 These letters came to your home? 1947 01:39:07,238 --> 01:39:08,490 - What's that? -These letters 1948 01:39:08,490 --> 01:39:11,117 - came to your home? - Yeah. And then another letter 1949 01:39:11,117 --> 01:39:12,952 was that they were gonna... 1950 01:39:12,952 --> 01:39:15,747 they were gonna dig Daniel's grave up, 1951 01:39:15,747 --> 01:39:17,665 because he wasn't there, to prove it. 1952 01:39:19,084 --> 01:39:20,919 My name is Mark Barden. 1953 01:39:20,919 --> 01:39:22,921 That was a very typical moment. 1954 01:39:22,921 --> 01:39:25,340 He was a very affectionate little boy. 1955 01:39:26,883 --> 01:39:28,843 It was grueling. It was excruciating, 1956 01:39:28,843 --> 01:39:31,930 mostly because we had to re-expose ourselves 1957 01:39:31,930 --> 01:39:34,641 to the very thing that we were trying to stop. 1958 01:39:34,641 --> 01:39:39,270 To stand there in the austerity 1959 01:39:39,270 --> 01:39:43,400 of a court of law and to expose all of that. 1960 01:39:43,400 --> 01:39:47,195 It's about the most vulnerable one can feel. 1961 01:39:47,195 --> 01:39:49,489 So, it's a whole lot. 1962 01:39:49,489 --> 01:39:52,117 It's a whole lot of everything all at once. 1963 01:39:52,117 --> 01:39:56,955 Daniel's grave, um, this is so sacrosanct 1964 01:39:56,955 --> 01:40:01,459 and hallowed a place for my family, 1965 01:40:01,459 --> 01:40:04,504 and to hear that people were desecrating it 1966 01:40:04,504 --> 01:40:07,382 and urinating on it and threatening to dig it up... 1967 01:40:09,384 --> 01:40:11,970 I-- I don't know how to articulate to you 1968 01:40:11,970 --> 01:40:13,596 what that feels like, but that's where we are. 1969 01:40:28,528 --> 01:40:29,696 Hello everybody. 1970 01:40:29,696 --> 01:40:33,324 I'm here for the four-year planned show trial... 1971 01:40:33,324 --> 01:40:36,578 Alex Jones. He's under subpoena to be here. 1972 01:40:36,578 --> 01:40:38,788 So, you know, there's real consequences for him 1973 01:40:38,788 --> 01:40:39,998 if he doesn't show. 1974 01:40:39,998 --> 01:40:42,000 They're using these families as pawns. 1975 01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:44,502 I have questioned hundreds of major events, 1976 01:40:44,502 --> 01:40:46,463 and I've always done it from a good place. 1977 01:40:46,463 --> 01:40:48,048 That's why I have a giant audience 1978 01:40:48,048 --> 01:40:49,507 of millions and millions of loyal listeners, 1979 01:40:49,507 --> 01:40:52,469 because they know, unlike the corporate controlled media, 1980 01:40:52,469 --> 01:40:53,887 I try to tell the truth. 1981 01:40:53,887 --> 01:40:55,638 These people lie on purpose. 1982 01:40:55,638 --> 01:40:58,850 That's a big difference. I've made mistakes by accident. 1983 01:40:58,850 --> 01:41:00,185 They're lying on purpose, 1984 01:41:00,185 --> 01:41:02,312 and they've misrepresented everything I've said and done. 1985 01:41:02,312 --> 01:41:05,357 Find the real Alex Jones at infowars.com. 1986 01:41:05,357 --> 01:41:07,150 And we have the number one book in the world, 1987 01:41:07,150 --> 01:41:09,069 The Great Reset: And the War for the World, 1988 01:41:09,069 --> 01:41:11,905 that exposes the globalists, Klaus Schwab, the WEF, 1989 01:41:11,905 --> 01:41:13,365 and the New World Order. 1990 01:41:13,365 --> 01:41:15,075 And that's why they're coming after me, trying to silence me, 1991 01:41:15,075 --> 01:41:16,659 because liberty and freedom is popular, 1992 01:41:16,659 --> 01:41:19,371 and they will not silence me, and we will not be stopped, 1993 01:41:19,371 --> 01:41:21,206 and America will prevail peacefully 1994 01:41:21,206 --> 01:41:22,665 with justice and liberty. 1995 01:41:22,665 --> 01:41:26,795 The answer to the 1984 tyranny is 1776. Thank you very much. 1996 01:41:41,142 --> 01:41:42,352 I didn't know how I would react 1997 01:41:42,352 --> 01:41:44,145 when I saw him in person. 1998 01:41:44,813 --> 01:41:47,232 You know, in Texas he was on, 1999 01:41:47,232 --> 01:41:49,901 "I'm a good guy, I'm your friend," 2000 01:41:49,901 --> 01:41:52,779 and that tone was completely different in Connecticut. 2001 01:41:52,779 --> 01:41:54,989 He was angry. 2002 01:41:54,989 --> 01:41:58,118 He looked pissed. 2003 01:41:58,118 --> 01:42:01,496 Like, "I don't want to be here, I shouldn't be here." 2004 01:42:03,581 --> 01:42:06,251 He wouldn't even look at us in Connecticut. 2005 01:42:06,251 --> 01:42:07,836 He wouldn't acknowledge us. 2006 01:42:07,836 --> 01:42:10,088 It was like we didn't even exist. 2007 01:42:10,088 --> 01:42:12,966 He didn't want to say like, "Hey, I'm sorry," 2008 01:42:12,966 --> 01:42:15,719 'cause he wasn't. He wasn't sorry. 2009 01:42:20,890 --> 01:42:22,350 There's a part of you that... 2010 01:42:23,268 --> 01:42:30,233 wants him to feel what you feel. 2011 01:42:30,233 --> 01:42:34,654 See what he has caused. You want some moment... 2012 01:42:35,613 --> 01:42:38,575 of connecting with this abuser... 2013 01:42:40,452 --> 01:42:45,248 where he can just have an inkling of respect for you, 2014 01:42:45,248 --> 01:42:47,625 or a moment of reflection. 2015 01:42:51,629 --> 01:42:53,465 And he wasn't going to give us that. 2016 01:42:54,507 --> 01:42:56,301 The lie you spread... 2017 01:42:57,802 --> 01:42:59,804 for years and years 2018 01:42:59,804 --> 01:43:03,850 was that the families behind me were actors, correct? 2019 01:43:05,143 --> 01:43:06,561 - I can't answer-- -That's a yes or no. 2020 01:43:06,561 --> 01:43:09,189 -No, objection. - It's too complex-- 2021 01:43:09,189 --> 01:43:11,608 - Sorry. -Motion in limine. 2022 01:43:11,608 --> 01:43:14,569 Mr. Jones, for years and years and years, 2023 01:43:14,569 --> 01:43:17,530 you acknowledge that among the things that you said 2024 01:43:17,530 --> 01:43:19,240 about Sandy Hook was that it was fake? 2025 01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:20,450 - Yes? - Yes. 2026 01:43:20,450 --> 01:43:22,994 -Synthetic? - Yes. 2027 01:43:22,994 --> 01:43:25,038 -Manufactured? - Yes. 2028 01:43:25,038 --> 01:43:27,415 -With actors? - Yes. 2029 01:43:27,415 --> 01:43:29,626 -Total hoax? - Yes. 2030 01:43:29,626 --> 01:43:34,631 You acknowledge that, repeatedly, you mocked parents? 2031 01:43:34,631 --> 01:43:36,341 I'm-- no, not parents. 2032 01:43:36,341 --> 01:43:38,677 I said Robbie Parker looked fake to me. 2033 01:43:38,677 --> 01:43:40,178 He carries a presence with him. 2034 01:43:40,178 --> 01:43:42,639 There's an energy with him, and it draws people, 2035 01:43:42,639 --> 01:43:45,475 even people who are disgusted by him, as I am. 2036 01:43:45,475 --> 01:43:47,977 You still can't take your eyes off of him, right? 2037 01:43:47,977 --> 01:43:49,145 You can't help but follow him around, 2038 01:43:49,145 --> 01:43:50,271 and I hate to admit that. 2039 01:43:50,271 --> 01:43:51,815 Robbie Parker's sitting right here. 2040 01:43:51,815 --> 01:43:55,276 And for years, you put a target on his back, didn't you? 2041 01:43:55,276 --> 01:43:57,153 Objection to the form of that, judge. 2042 01:43:57,153 --> 01:43:58,196 Overruled. 2043 01:43:58,196 --> 01:43:59,781 You put a target on his back, 2044 01:43:59,781 --> 01:44:02,200 just like you did every single parent 2045 01:44:02,200 --> 01:44:03,410 and loved one sitting here, didn't you? 2046 01:44:03,410 --> 01:44:04,744 -Objection, judge. -No, I didn't. 2047 01:44:04,744 --> 01:44:06,454 -No, you didn't? -That's argumentative. 2048 01:44:06,454 --> 01:44:09,416 - There's no-- It's speculative. -Let's move on. 2049 01:44:09,416 --> 01:44:10,875 These are real people. You know that, Mr. Jones? 2050 01:44:10,875 --> 01:44:12,836 Objection. I think you just told him to move on. 2051 01:44:12,836 --> 01:44:16,256 Just like all the Iraqis you liberals kill and love. 2052 01:44:17,048 --> 01:44:18,925 You're just-- you're unbelievable. 2053 01:44:18,925 --> 01:44:21,636 You switch on emotions on and off when you want. 2054 01:44:21,636 --> 01:44:23,722 You're-- It's just ambulance-chasing. 2055 01:44:26,808 --> 01:44:28,393 Why don't you show a little respect, Mr. Jones? 2056 01:44:28,393 --> 01:44:29,602 Objection, judge. 2057 01:44:29,602 --> 01:44:31,730 I think you get what you give in this courtroom. 2058 01:44:32,188 --> 01:44:33,523 Objection. 2059 01:44:33,523 --> 01:44:36,067 You have families in this courtroom here 2060 01:44:36,067 --> 01:44:39,738 that lost children, sisters, wives, 2061 01:44:41,698 --> 01:44:42,699 moms. 2062 01:44:43,742 --> 01:44:45,744 Is this a struggle session? Are we in China? 2063 01:44:47,579 --> 01:44:49,289 I've already said I'm sorry hundreds of times, 2064 01:44:49,289 --> 01:44:51,082 and I'm done saying I'm sorry. 2065 01:44:51,082 --> 01:44:52,167 I didn't progenerate this. 2066 01:44:52,167 --> 01:44:53,585 I wasn't the first person to say it. 2067 01:44:53,585 --> 01:44:55,795 American gun owners didn't like being blamed for this 2068 01:44:55,795 --> 01:44:58,381 as the Left did, so we rejected it mentally 2069 01:44:58,381 --> 01:44:59,674 and said it must not be true. 2070 01:44:59,674 --> 01:45:01,760 But I legitimately thought it might have been staged, 2071 01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:03,428 and I stand by that, and I don't apologize for it. 2072 01:45:03,428 --> 01:45:05,722 And don't apologize, Mr. Jones. 2073 01:45:05,722 --> 01:45:06,681 Please, don't apologize. 2074 01:45:06,681 --> 01:45:07,932 No, I've already apologized to the parents 2075 01:45:07,932 --> 01:45:09,559 - over and over again. -Because we know-- 2076 01:45:09,559 --> 01:45:11,144 - I don't apologize to you. -Objection. Objection. 2077 01:45:11,144 --> 01:45:12,270 I don't apologize to you. 2078 01:45:12,270 --> 01:45:13,521 You're gonna do it again, aren't you? 2079 01:45:13,521 --> 01:45:15,190 -Objection, Judge. -Aren't you? 2080 01:45:15,190 --> 01:45:16,399 - No, I'm not. -You're not? 2081 01:45:16,399 --> 01:45:17,817 Objection. Objection. Argumentative. 2082 01:45:17,817 --> 01:45:18,902 I don't apologize to you. 2083 01:45:20,862 --> 01:45:23,323 This is your homepage, right? Infowars.com? 2084 01:45:23,323 --> 01:45:24,616 -Yes. -Three weeks ago. 2085 01:45:24,616 --> 01:45:26,076 A little bit bigger, please. 2086 01:45:26,076 --> 01:45:27,535 Just the part with the survey there. 2087 01:45:28,203 --> 01:45:30,789 And you're asking your audience, 2088 01:45:30,789 --> 01:45:34,959 "What will be the most likely deep state false flag 2089 01:45:34,959 --> 01:45:37,587 - ahead of the midterms," right? -Yes. 2090 01:45:37,587 --> 01:45:38,963 What's the first option? 2091 01:45:40,423 --> 01:45:42,092 Mass shooting, but I didn't write the poll. 2092 01:45:42,092 --> 01:45:43,468 Excuse me, sir. Mass shooting? 2093 01:45:43,468 --> 01:45:44,552 Yes. 2094 01:45:44,552 --> 01:45:47,305 And you're inviting your audience, even now, 2095 01:45:47,305 --> 01:45:51,309 even after all this, to suspect 2096 01:45:51,309 --> 01:45:54,354 that the next people, the next Robbie Parker, 2097 01:45:54,354 --> 01:45:56,481 the next family are actors, too. 2098 01:45:56,481 --> 01:45:58,316 -Objection, argumentative. - No. 2099 01:45:58,316 --> 01:46:00,151 -Overruled. - I'm done, Your Honor. 2100 01:46:02,487 --> 01:46:04,489 What I ultimately wanted to do 2101 01:46:05,323 --> 01:46:07,826 was to get the jury to see 2102 01:46:07,826 --> 01:46:12,789 just how dangerous this man is likely to be in the future. 2103 01:46:15,166 --> 01:46:16,876 This is gonna happen again, 2104 01:46:16,876 --> 01:46:18,962 and he knows what he's gonna say. 2105 01:46:22,257 --> 01:46:24,551 You know, what you want is the truth 2106 01:46:24,551 --> 01:46:27,679 of, like, the rottenness at his core to be revealed. 2107 01:46:27,679 --> 01:46:29,848 Uh, you get a lot of that through the videos, 2108 01:46:29,848 --> 01:46:33,810 but until you see him in court do his thing, 2109 01:46:34,853 --> 01:46:35,895 it's different. 2110 01:46:37,605 --> 01:46:40,025 You got parents laughing, going "Ha ha ha! Watch this!" 2111 01:46:40,025 --> 01:46:41,276 and then going... 2112 01:46:41,276 --> 01:46:43,611 Method acting, going... 2113 01:46:43,611 --> 01:46:46,489 "Oh, my child!" 2114 01:46:46,489 --> 01:46:48,700 I mean, it's just ridiculous. 2115 01:46:48,700 --> 01:46:50,368 Is that what you did, Mr. Parker? 2116 01:46:50,368 --> 01:46:52,120 The fake crying, the method acting? 2117 01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:53,288 No. 2118 01:46:53,288 --> 01:46:54,706 This is a few months later. 2119 01:46:54,706 --> 01:46:57,625 And then you've got parents laughing, going, "Ha ha ha," 2120 01:46:57,625 --> 01:46:59,377 and then they walk over to the camera and go... 2121 01:47:01,671 --> 01:47:03,631 That was September 2014. 2122 01:47:03,631 --> 01:47:06,092 Mr. Parker, your family's still deluged 2123 01:47:06,092 --> 01:47:07,677 with the threats and harassment? 2124 01:47:08,553 --> 01:47:10,096 They would come in these waves. 2125 01:47:10,096 --> 01:47:13,308 And it was almost like I knew when Alex Jones said something, 2126 01:47:13,308 --> 01:47:17,395 because we would get a huge wave of stuff, 2127 01:47:17,395 --> 01:47:19,814 more and more and more attacks. 2128 01:47:19,814 --> 01:47:23,443 I started to hate that-- that video. 2129 01:47:23,443 --> 01:47:25,862 That video, you mean the video of yourself? 2130 01:47:25,862 --> 01:47:26,905 Exactly. 2131 01:47:26,905 --> 01:47:30,533 Exhibit 20A, December 27th, 2014. 2132 01:47:30,533 --> 01:47:33,453 And then the parents laughing, and then one second later, 2133 01:47:33,453 --> 01:47:35,538 doing the actor breathing to cry. 2134 01:47:35,538 --> 01:47:38,166 I mean, it's just-- it's just over the top. 2135 01:47:38,166 --> 01:47:41,586 -2015 now. -Stinks to high heaven. 2136 01:47:41,586 --> 01:47:43,630 You got the actor father who comes out, 2137 01:47:43,630 --> 01:47:44,756 gets into character. 2138 01:47:44,756 --> 01:47:47,759 On November 18th, 2016. 2139 01:47:47,759 --> 01:47:49,219 Then we see footage 2140 01:47:49,219 --> 01:47:53,181 of one of the reported fathers of the victims, Robbie Parker, 2141 01:47:53,181 --> 01:47:56,267 doing classic acting training, 2142 01:47:56,267 --> 01:47:59,104 where he's laughing and joking, and they say, "Hey, we're live," 2143 01:47:59,104 --> 01:48:00,271 and he goes, "Oh." 2144 01:48:03,400 --> 01:48:05,652 I already felt like I failed Emilie as a dad 2145 01:48:05,652 --> 01:48:06,945 when she was alive. 2146 01:48:09,447 --> 01:48:10,740 Because I... 2147 01:48:11,491 --> 01:48:12,992 because we sent her to school. 2148 01:48:14,911 --> 01:48:17,664 And I was especially starting to feel like I was failing her 2149 01:48:18,540 --> 01:48:20,667 in her death, 2150 01:48:20,667 --> 01:48:22,836 because of what people were saying about her. 2151 01:48:25,839 --> 01:48:29,676 And what they were saying about me trying to remember her. 2152 01:48:31,678 --> 01:48:34,639 The most powerful thing for me about doing that was 2153 01:48:34,639 --> 01:48:37,684 that I finally got to put my voice out there. 2154 01:48:38,143 --> 01:48:39,144 And I got to... 2155 01:48:40,311 --> 01:48:43,690 I got to put my experience out there 2156 01:48:43,690 --> 01:48:45,650 in a way that actually really mattered. 2157 01:48:47,152 --> 01:48:49,446 Like, take that press conference that I gave. 2158 01:48:49,446 --> 01:48:51,281 He had taken it from me. 2159 01:48:51,281 --> 01:48:54,492 He defiled it. He literally just 2160 01:48:54,492 --> 01:48:56,828 shit all over one of the most important things 2161 01:48:56,828 --> 01:48:58,955 I feel like I've ever done in my life. 2162 01:48:58,955 --> 01:49:01,166 And so to be given an opportunity to, like, 2163 01:49:01,166 --> 01:49:04,044 take that back, that's the most precious thing 2164 01:49:04,044 --> 01:49:05,670 I think I can take away from this trial. 2165 01:49:05,670 --> 01:49:09,049 So, I trust that the jury has been fantastic, 2166 01:49:09,049 --> 01:49:11,843 and they've been very attentive, and they're gonna do 2167 01:49:12,385 --> 01:49:13,386 what they feel is best, 2168 01:49:13,386 --> 01:49:15,055 and I'm happy with whatever that is. 2169 01:49:15,055 --> 01:49:17,557 But I've got what I need out of this already. 2170 01:49:19,684 --> 01:49:22,187 So, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, 2171 01:49:22,187 --> 01:49:26,524 here you are tasked with addressing the issue of damages, 2172 01:49:26,524 --> 01:49:29,235 as the court previously determined 2173 01:49:29,235 --> 01:49:31,154 that the defendants are liable. 2174 01:49:31,154 --> 01:49:35,241 It is for you alone to decide on the amount of damages 2175 01:49:35,241 --> 01:49:36,785 in this case. 2176 01:49:36,785 --> 01:49:39,204 The verdict needs to reflect 2177 01:49:39,204 --> 01:49:43,917 the kind of exponential harm that lies can now have. 2178 01:49:43,917 --> 01:49:47,712 And I don't think Alex Jones has ever really appreciated that. 2179 01:49:47,712 --> 01:49:52,550 And people like him, and him, need to appreciate that. 2180 01:49:52,550 --> 01:49:54,094 And the only way to make them appreciate it, 2181 01:49:54,094 --> 01:49:59,349 I think, is to hang a big verdict around their head. 2182 01:50:03,061 --> 01:50:05,480 They're about to announce the verdict. 2183 01:50:05,480 --> 01:50:06,648 Let's go to the audio 2184 01:50:06,648 --> 01:50:08,900 of the biggest show trial in U.S. history. 2185 01:50:12,487 --> 01:50:14,197 The judge looks pleased. 2186 01:50:14,197 --> 01:50:17,701 Probably 200 million dollars. 2187 01:50:17,701 --> 01:50:19,953 I don't have any money, so it's all a big joke. 2188 01:50:20,912 --> 01:50:23,748 This is their trial. This is them on trial. 2189 01:50:23,748 --> 01:50:25,709 This is ambulance-chasing on steroids. 2190 01:50:27,711 --> 01:50:30,380 Come on, crucify me. Let's get it going. 2191 01:50:30,380 --> 01:50:33,758 Saveinfowars.com, infowarsstore.com. 2192 01:50:33,758 --> 01:50:36,094 To plaintiff Robbie Parker. 2193 01:50:36,094 --> 01:50:41,391 A, defamation slash slander damages past and future, 2194 01:50:41,391 --> 01:50:42,851 60 million dollars. 2195 01:50:42,851 --> 01:50:45,687 - Yeah! -B, emotional distress damages... 2196 01:50:45,687 --> 01:50:47,439 - Whoo! - ...past and future, 2197 01:50:47,439 --> 01:50:49,441 60 million dollars. 2198 01:50:49,441 --> 01:50:52,110 Total fair, just, and reasonable damages 2199 01:50:52,110 --> 01:50:56,281 to plaintiff Robert Parker and against Alex Jones 2200 01:50:56,281 --> 01:50:59,951 and Free Speech Systems, under line A and line B, 2201 01:50:59,951 --> 01:51:02,704 total 120 million dollars. 2202 01:51:07,834 --> 01:51:09,878 I didn't know how to feel, 2203 01:51:09,878 --> 01:51:14,716 except for just like this big sense of like relief. 2204 01:51:14,716 --> 01:51:16,801 And then that sense of validation came through. 2205 01:51:16,801 --> 01:51:18,345 And then that sense of, like... 2206 01:51:20,347 --> 01:51:21,264 like you're seen, 2207 01:51:21,264 --> 01:51:25,310 and you're understood, and you're loved, and... 2208 01:51:26,728 --> 01:51:29,314 And I-- I could feel it from everywhere. 2209 01:51:29,314 --> 01:51:30,982 And it was really overwhelming. 2210 01:51:42,911 --> 01:51:45,121 To plaintiff David Wheeler, 2211 01:51:45,121 --> 01:51:47,040 55 million dollars. 2212 01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:50,502 Yeah! Whoo! 2213 01:51:50,502 --> 01:51:52,504 To plaintiff Francine Wheeler, 2214 01:51:52,504 --> 01:51:54,798 total 54 million dollars. 2215 01:51:54,798 --> 01:51:56,841 To plaintiff Jacqueline Barden, 2216 01:51:56,841 --> 01:51:59,344 28,800,000 dollars. 2217 01:52:00,595 --> 01:52:01,971 Bravo. 2218 01:52:01,971 --> 01:52:04,432 To plaintiff Mark Barden, 2219 01:52:04,432 --> 01:52:07,852 57,600,000 dollars. 2220 01:52:07,852 --> 01:52:09,771 Nine hundred sixty-five million 2221 01:52:09,771 --> 01:52:11,564 is what it was. 2222 01:52:11,564 --> 01:52:15,068 And, um, I just remember thinking, like, 2223 01:52:15,068 --> 01:52:17,696 "There's no way that Alex Jones 2224 01:52:17,696 --> 01:52:20,657 is going to be able to sell enough supplements 2225 01:52:20,657 --> 01:52:22,033 to be able to pay that off." 2226 01:52:22,033 --> 01:52:25,203 Guess what? We're not scared, and we're not going away. 2227 01:52:25,203 --> 01:52:28,164 So, please, go to infowarsstore.com 2228 01:52:28,164 --> 01:52:31,668 and get Vitamin Mineral Fusion, get X3. 2229 01:52:31,668 --> 01:52:33,420 Flood us with donations. 2230 01:52:41,678 --> 01:52:46,349 Today, a jury representing our community 2231 01:52:46,349 --> 01:52:49,185 and our nation rendered a historic verdict, 2232 01:52:49,185 --> 01:52:51,688 a verdict against Alex Jones's lies 2233 01:52:51,688 --> 01:52:53,356 and their poisonous spread. 2234 01:52:54,607 --> 01:52:58,778 This jury bore witness to Alex Jones's ten-year attack, 2235 01:52:58,778 --> 01:53:01,114 an attack that made him very rich, 2236 01:53:01,114 --> 01:53:03,742 an attack that targeted these families 2237 01:53:03,742 --> 01:53:07,245 with the lie that they were frauds. 2238 01:53:07,245 --> 01:53:11,875 And all for Alex Jones's personal profit. 2239 01:53:11,875 --> 01:53:14,461 All Alex Jones does is take from you, 2240 01:53:14,461 --> 01:53:16,588 exploit you, lie to you, 2241 01:53:17,589 --> 01:53:18,590 feed your fears 2242 01:53:18,590 --> 01:53:20,800 and your anxieties and your mistrust, 2243 01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:22,802 and the only person that benefits 2244 01:53:22,802 --> 01:53:24,679 in that equation is him. 2245 01:53:24,679 --> 01:53:27,766 Well, that stops. That's stopping today, 2246 01:53:27,766 --> 01:53:29,809 thanks to the courage of these families. 2247 01:53:29,809 --> 01:53:31,102 Thank you very much. 2248 01:53:41,112 --> 01:53:44,324 It's the biggest verdict in a defamation case 2249 01:53:44,324 --> 01:53:45,909 in United States history. 2250 01:53:46,659 --> 01:53:48,119 The reason that it's so big 2251 01:53:48,119 --> 01:53:50,997 is because there has never been technology 2252 01:53:50,997 --> 01:53:54,376 capable of spreading a lie so fast 2253 01:53:54,376 --> 01:53:56,920 and causing so much damage as we have now. 2254 01:53:58,296 --> 01:54:00,090 I think a really insidious problem 2255 01:54:00,090 --> 01:54:02,676 that we're just as a society figuring out how to deal with, 2256 01:54:02,676 --> 01:54:04,386 and these cases are one way. 2257 01:54:04,386 --> 01:54:05,970 They're not the only way, 2258 01:54:05,970 --> 01:54:08,223 but I think they're going to end up being an important way. 2259 01:54:08,223 --> 01:54:10,183 And we have the families to thank for that. 2260 01:54:12,977 --> 01:54:15,063 Why are people willing to believe 2261 01:54:15,063 --> 01:54:17,232 invented, manufactured lies 2262 01:54:17,232 --> 01:54:19,150 that can be shut down in a second, 2263 01:54:19,150 --> 01:54:22,028 that can be debunked with the simplest of actions? 2264 01:54:22,028 --> 01:54:24,531 Why? Why are they so thirsty for it? 2265 01:54:24,531 --> 01:54:27,492 Why are they ingesting it? Why are they believing it? 2266 01:54:27,492 --> 01:54:31,454 That question goes far beyond what happened in this case, 2267 01:54:31,454 --> 01:54:32,664 because I can guarantee you, 2268 01:54:32,664 --> 01:54:35,166 we can solve the Alex Jones problem, 2269 01:54:35,166 --> 01:54:37,627 but we will not solve the greater problem 2270 01:54:37,627 --> 01:54:40,130 that allowed Alex Jones to flourish. 2271 01:54:40,130 --> 01:54:43,174 And Spiderman defeated the Goblin, 2272 01:54:43,174 --> 01:54:47,721 and the Goblin fighting back was still alive... 2273 01:54:47,721 --> 01:54:49,597 This was his backpack. 2274 01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:52,642 He always had, um, stuffed animals. 2275 01:54:55,103 --> 01:54:57,814 First grade homework packet, 2276 01:54:57,814 --> 01:55:00,025 that's what he should've brought home that day, 2277 01:55:01,359 --> 01:55:02,402 and didn't get to. 2278 01:55:05,447 --> 01:55:10,076 This is the jacket he wore on that fateful day. 2279 01:55:12,078 --> 01:55:16,583 It's just a... a way to link with him. 2280 01:55:20,628 --> 01:55:23,214 Noah, he was cheated. 2281 01:55:24,924 --> 01:55:26,676 He was cheated of life. 2282 01:55:27,886 --> 01:55:29,596 And he was cheated afterwards... 2283 01:55:32,015 --> 01:55:33,558 of honoring that life... 2284 01:55:35,935 --> 01:55:38,146 by people who purported that... 2285 01:55:39,564 --> 01:55:43,026 you know, they were bringing "the truth" to light. 2286 01:55:43,026 --> 01:55:44,527 When, in fact, what they were doing 2287 01:55:44,527 --> 01:55:46,780 was desecrating his memory. 169822

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