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Fora certain generation,
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the Nickelodeon jingleis burned
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into our brain.
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Get some juice
in the glass!
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In the early '90s,
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Nickelodeon
was kid everything.
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It was like the mecca.
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- Nickelodeon is the place
where only kids win.
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It was the starting point
of everything cool.
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You come home.
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You watch Salute Your Shorts.
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Are You Afraid of the Dark?
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Have you lost your mind?
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Everybody watched
Ren & Stimpy.
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God, I sound so old saying...
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You know,
before when I was comin' up
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there were
no internet, like...
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But there wasn't.
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We didn't have
Netflix and Hulu.
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We didn't have
ten things to choose from.
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There was Nickelodeon
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and there was Disney.
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And that was it.
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And you better hopethat your house had cable.
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In the '90s and 2000s,
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there was one producer who
was able to take Nickelodeon
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to new heights.
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It is our great honorto present
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the first ever Nickelodeon
Lifetime Achievement Award
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to a man who's beenmaking all of us laugh
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for the past two decades.
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Dan Schneider!
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The 2014Kid's Choice Awards
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showed that Dan Schneider
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was Nickelodeon's golden boy.
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He was their cash cow.
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He created these shows
that were...
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hugely, hugely
successful for them.
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- He launchedthe careers of child actors
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who became major stars.
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For 20 years,
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he shapedchildren's entertainment
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and shaped children's culture.
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When Dan accepted his award,
he was elated,
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he was emotional,
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and very few could havepredicted his downfall.
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Whoo! Try not to cry.
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Wow, thank you so much.
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I will warn you...
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if you were
a child of the '90s...
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this is going to
ruin that for you.
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What do we really know
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about Dan Schneider?
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For decades,
Dan seemed like he was untouchable.
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But around 2017,
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the internet videos
around Dan
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really startedgaining momentum.
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He made them do thingsthat were very weird.
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There are all these setups
that referenced porn.
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Like, squirting gooon Jamie Lynn's face
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when she's just
13 years old.
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Feel these kids' feet.
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Wow, they're really soft.
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People were looking back
at old scenes and saying,
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"Dan Schneider
is obsessed with feet."
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Check this out.
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It's all very gross
and foul things.
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...impossible to escape
children's feet.
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- Dan Schneider...
- ...absolutely disgusting.
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He's a grown ass man.
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What the
are you doing?
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There's one video
of Ariana Grande
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making a joke about a potato.
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Sometimes I wonder
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if you can get juice...
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from a potato.
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Did that air on Nickelodeon?
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Come on!
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Give up the juice.
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Yikes.
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I'm thirsty.
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In another video,
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Ariana is pouring wateron herself
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in what seems likea very sexual manner.
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And people started saying
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this feelsinappropriate for children.
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- Looking
at Dan Schneider's stars,
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some of thembecame extremely famous,
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some of themreally struggled publicly.
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After her arrest last week...
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Now some of themare starting to speak out
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about what happened
when they were on his sets.
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I work with an incredibly
emotionally abusive producer.
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I did not feel safe
around Dan Schneider
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while I was working
at Nickelodeon.
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All of this information
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has made us wonder...
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what was happening
behind the scenes.
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As a reporter at Insider,
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I wanted
to investigate further.
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I've been waiting for someone
to question the climate.
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It's been a long time coming.
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I didn't feel safe
to say, "This hurt me."
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The badjust doesn't go away.
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The bad stays for a lifetime.
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It was
a toxic, unsafe environment.
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I can'tsit on it anymore.
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I can't watch it continue.
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I want, uh,people to be accountable.
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I've been waiting
17 years for today.
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Nickelodeon was
a little wild.
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- All right.- All right, guys.
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It was a little quirky.
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Always funny...
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but from a kid's view.
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And in Nickelodeon shows,
parents are, like,
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not really around.
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It was, like,
the kid is the star.
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You know, sometimesparents are so dumb.
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- Nickelodeon wasn't there
to educate you.
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Put your hat on.
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We were thereto have fun, to get slimed,
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to be entertained.
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I'll get you!
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I was slimed more times
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than I can care
to tell you about.
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It was part of my job.
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It's cold, it's wet,it's gooey, it's sticky.
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Oh, my goly!
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Exactly howdid that feel?
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Like my son threw up on me.
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In the mid-'90s,
Nickelodeon is pushing the boundaries
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of children's entertainment.
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And this is whenDan Schneider arrives.
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He's young. He's ambitious.
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And he has a lot to prove.
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Dan comesout of Memphis.
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He describes himself
as sort of
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a awkward fat kid.
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He's coming from a father
who went to Harvard.
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And his parents do not have
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the highest expectations
for him.
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He wasn't exactly someone
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who they thought was going
to be massively successful.
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So Dan is able
to find himself in drama.
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Early articlesabout Dan say
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he went to Harvard.
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But he never actuallyattended the university.
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He auditions
for this teen movie
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that's shooting in Memphis
and he gets a job.
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Hello, Pizzas R Us?
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It's a small role.
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But it eventually
leads to Dan
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ending up on
a really big show.
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He ison Head of the Class
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which is at the time one of
the biggest comedies on TV.
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He was 19.
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This put uson the map, I mean...
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This got us small homes
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We... We get tables
in restaurants now.
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As an actor,Dan was cast as the fat kid.
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You guys pick
on the blimp again.
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Nice.
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You could sing
"We Are the World"
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all by yourself.
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He seemed always
driven by this fat joke.
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"I'm gonna show people
that that's not who I am.
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I'm not the fat kid.
I'm this talented writer."
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His first rip that he sold
in TV was Head of the Class.
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He cowrote it with one ofthe other cast members.
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And everything else happened
because of that show.
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Several years later,
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Nickelodeon executivecame to him and said,
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"Hey, we're working
on this idea
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for a sketch show, All That.
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Would you like
to write the pilot?"
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And the next thing you know,
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he is producing the show.
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He's writing episodes.
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All That
first launched in 1994.
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The concept was,
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it was a Saturday Night Live
for kids.
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I wanted to make a show
for Nickelodeon
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and I wanted to do
sketch comedy
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'cause no one had
ever really done sketch comedy
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starring kids for kids.
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At the beginningof his career,
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Dan Schneider and his
early producing partner
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Brian Robbins
got noticed by the press
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for all of their success
for All That.
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It's a special thing.
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I mean, not many kids get
to go on national television
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and play
1,000 different characters.
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Eat rotten cheese...
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-We're doing highbrow stuff.
-Yeah.
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All That wasa really edgy concept.
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And it establishedDan Schneider
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as this creative forceat Nickelodeon.
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And he helped
launch the career
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of some of comedy's
biggest names
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like Kel Mitchelland Kenan Thompson.
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Is chocolate good
for congestion?
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I have no idea.
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All That quickly became
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a pretty big hit
for Nickelodeon
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where they went from, like,
a pretty scrappy production
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to getting some of the
biggest names in entertainment
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to be these guests.
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I do.
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My name is Leon Frierson.
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I was on seasons
four to six of All That.
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Quinn gotta showered
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and knocked out
by a talking cheeseburger.
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A lot of us gotour break on All That.
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I am Katrina Johnson.
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From the time
I was ten to 16,
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I starred on All That.
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Garty!
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How are you, my darlin'?
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Dan Schneiderwas my mentor.
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And I remember, my first
audition, he was there.
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All of my callbacks,
he was there.
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You wanna... Sorry.
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You wanna
see something really gross?
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Look at this.
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I'm so flat, it's disgusting.
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When we were
filming the pilot,
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he came up to me
and he said,
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"I chose you.
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You are my choice.
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And I know
you're gonna be great."
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It made me feel like
a million bucks.
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When I would say,
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"Hey, I have this ideafor this character,"
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he would always listen.
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And we would usually
turn it into something.
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One day, the networkcalled my parents and said,
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"We want to see
how you would feel
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if we created
The Katrina Johnson Show."
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And that I'm already living
the dream life,
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but it gets even better.
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Dan, and he was
the head writer, so...
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Dan kind of ran things.
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I'm the producer.
Executive producer.
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That's why
he gets the headset.
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I have to yell.
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In early
behind the scenes interviews,
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you see Dan
presenting himself
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as a self-deprecating
and really funny boss.
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Dan just created
a really fun set.
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Don't know what's taking
so long now.
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Let me find out.
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All right,
come on.
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That could explain it.
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Come on, not again.
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Nothing humiliating
about that!
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Dan was a big kid.
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He was always doing
something to joke around
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or poke fun at somebody.
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I mean, okay,
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These are the breaks, y'all.
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He kept things pretty light
in the beginning.
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On All That,
he would inspire you
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to get whateverit was that you needed
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to get it done, you know?
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But we were kids and
they were long days.
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You know,some would say
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that he was trying to push
them towards greatness.
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But there's also a...
another side.
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A lot of these kids in the
entertainment industry are vulnerable.
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The power balancebetween a child and an adult
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is so striking already.
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And then on top
of it you add
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that it's
an employment situation.
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These are eightto 15-year-olds...
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and they areoften responsible
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for the entire
economic success
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of their families.
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What are they gonna doif they get in trouble?
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What if all of this goes awaybecause they complained?
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And so you spend
your time working,
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hoping that people
don't poke the soft spots
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on your body
and in your brain.
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Dan! Dan.
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Here, Leon, start to the green room.
They're there...
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On All That,
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what really made me feel
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the most uncomfortable were...
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the leotards.
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I mean, I was justa growing boy
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trying to, you know,
fit into my body
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and it was just out there
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for everyone to kind of
look at and...
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judge me or...
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You know, I just felt
very exposed.
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So one weekwe get a script,
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there's a new character for me
on All That named Nose Boy.
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Naturally, I'm in
a superhero costume
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which is just
tights and underwear.
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You know, what was
different about this...
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They... They gave me
a prosthetic nose,
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like a enlarged nose...
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and they put this same nose
on the costume.
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I'm Captain Big Nose.
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- What are your
special powers?
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You can't helpbut notice
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that it looks like penis and
testicles on my shoulders.
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This is a childplaying this role.
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And he is playing itfor other children.
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His audience is kids
as young as six.
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I'm allergic to asteroids.
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And the joke in that sketch
is effectively a joke.
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It a joke
for children.
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I'm just lookingback at it,
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it's just very strange.
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Frankly, it was
just uncomfortable.
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In the...
the moments to myself
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you would just
be thinking, like...
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"Hey, this is what
we gotta do be on the show.
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To stay in the castand stay in the good graces
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of the peoplethat were higher up."
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Some of the child actors felt
like they could not push back,
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especially with
Dan Schneider.
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And so I always did
my best to be a trooper.
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Never complain.
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'Cause we knew,
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being close to Dan,
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could mean an extra level
of, uh, success.
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It was important to be...
to be on his good side.
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And he made it known
who was on his good side.
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One day, uh,
the producers called my house...
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and spoketo my parents and said,
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"Hey..."
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"Katrina's getting too fat.
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We already have a fat one.She can't be the fat one."
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They go,
"Well, uh, she's a dancer.
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She's in dance class, like,
six hours a day.
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There's nothing morewe can do."
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I mean...
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That stuck with me.
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"You can't be
the fat one." Like...
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I still hear those words
in my head to this day.
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And it's funny because...
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shortly after that call,
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I went through puberty.
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And thenthe producers freak out
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because nowI look like a woman
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and I'm notlittle girlish anymore,
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so then thatbecame an issue.
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And then after that
I'm sort of like...
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edged out...
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by, like,
a younger version of me.
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Please welcome
ten-year-old Amanda.
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I remember one dayI was at the Laugh Factory.
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It's a really famouscomedy club on Sunset.
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They would have
workshops for kids.
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Couple of Nickelodeon people
had gone to support Katrina.
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Brian Robbinsand Dan Schneider came
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and I said, "You gotta
check out this girl.
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She's really amazing."
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And the girl
was Amanda Bynes.
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The other day,
I got a pimple.
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I remember Amanda
doing a routine
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about having a pimple
that she couldn't pop
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on the inside of her nose.
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I mean, what's the deal?
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Is God sitting up there
in heaven
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looking down at me
and saying,
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"I think I'll give her
a challenge."
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AndI remember thinking...
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"You're like ten.
You do not have a pimple
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on the inside
of your nose."
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But that was
a really kickass routine
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and it was...
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pretty flawless.
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Dan saw herand, like, immediately...
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knew she'd be a star.
378
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Over the '90s,
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Dan's star is rising
in Nickelodeon.
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But what takes him
to the next level
381
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is when he discovers
Amanda Bynes.
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And he recognizesher talent
383
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and he wants her
in All That immediately.
384
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- Hi, hi, everyone.
It's me, Amanda.
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Amanda was
absolutely natural.
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Her timing
was impeccable.
387
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Uh, very physical.
388
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Then my bully
kicked on me at school.
389
00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,100
I discovered that music
could be used as self-defense.
390
00:16:10,100 --> 00:16:12,160
Oh, well, how?
391
00:16:12,300 --> 00:16:13,260
Hmm?
392
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We had to goto school on set.
393
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I mean, I was allowed
to go to school.
394
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- How many hours?
- Three.
395
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- Three?
- A day.
396
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- Can you share what--
- Go talk to the teacher.
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Okay.
398
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And sothere would be times
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where Amandawould just be missing.
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And a lot of timeswe would just hear
401
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that she wouldbe with Dan,
402
00:16:35,700 --> 00:16:38,230
pitching ideas and writing.
403
00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:40,800
We've seen them
grow closer
404
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- to each other on set.
- So, uh...
405
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Leon is the man.
406
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See what
we're doing here, um...
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The law was thata parent or guardian
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had to be with us
at all times.
409
00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,000
Parents on All That...
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I would say they tried
to stay out the way.
411
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Okay, guys. Ready for ya.
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With us all being,uh, novices...
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With some of us,this was out first job.
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It was just in
our best interest
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to kind of go with the flow.
416
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But...
417
00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,960
Amanda Bynes' parentswere very hands on
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with her career.
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Um, specifically her dad.
420
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I think Amanda's dadkind of treated her
421
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like a wind-up doll,
like, she had...
422
00:17:23,300 --> 00:17:27,660
really a lot of pressure and
high expectations from him.
423
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Say, "Hands up."
- Hands up.
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Say, "Kids, hands up."
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His presencewas always felt.
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A big part of that
was his relationship
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00:17:35,500 --> 00:17:36,930
with Dan Schneider.
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00:17:38,360 --> 00:17:41,130
They carefully craftedAmanda's career.
429
00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:45,360
It was enviable
for a lot of the cast members.
430
00:17:45,360 --> 00:17:47,660
When Amanda
joined the show...
431
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Oh, I had less
and less and less
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and then no time with Dan.
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So...
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the new favorite
had arrived. I was out.
435
00:18:08,060 --> 00:18:09,160
So I felt
436
00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,060
now I don't need to do this
anymore, I can just...
437
00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:12,360
go to college.
438
00:18:13,100 --> 00:18:14,060
So I did.
439
00:18:15,100 --> 00:18:17,160
And then maybe a year later...
440
00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,200
someone told me,
441
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"Oh, have you seen
The Amanda Bynes Show?"
442
00:18:23,060 --> 00:18:25,030
And I was like, "What?
443
00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:27,860
That makes sense."
444
00:18:27,860 --> 00:18:30,100
Amanda! Amanda!
445
00:18:30,100 --> 00:18:33,360
Amanda Bynes'physical comedy really shines
446
00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:35,400
in that first episode.
447
00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,760
- Hey, it's Amanda!
- -And it washer big break,
448
00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,530
and it wasDan Schneider's big break.
449
00:18:42,900 --> 00:18:44,160
And this is actuallythe first time
450
00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,160
that Dan Schneider's nameis listed as a creator.
451
00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:48,560
This gave him
a whole new level
452
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of control and power
453
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and there would be
consequences to that later on.
454
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-Hey! Look at you.
-Oh!
455
00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,500
- I like your outfit.
- Good to see you. Yeah, I like yours too.
456
00:18:57,500 --> 00:18:59,960
Dan Schneider's decision
to have Amanda...
457
00:19:00,460 --> 00:19:02,560
be the star of the show...
458
00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:04,560
is forward thinking
is a lot of ways.
459
00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,060
A lot of adult
female comedians do not...
460
00:19:07,500 --> 00:19:08,460
get their own shows
461
00:19:08,460 --> 00:19:10,860
without jumping through
a million hoops.
462
00:19:10,860 --> 00:19:14,260
There's usually two roles that
girls occupy in Hollywood.
463
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One is super innocent,really sweet.
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Like Shirley Temple,cute, young.
465
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And then the other side is...
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Hypersexualized,
built for male consumption.
467
00:19:28,260 --> 00:19:30,600
Amanda Bynes
was like a new deviation
468
00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,460
as a young actress
in Hollywood.
469
00:19:34,460 --> 00:19:35,760
And I hereby sentence you
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to be chased by
an unpredictable man
471
00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:38,900
in a gorilla suit!
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Really personality driven.
Really funny.
473
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Get that done!
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For Amanda it's a spotlight
on her comedic talent,
475
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which is something
that is kind of rare to see.
476
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,900
Ah, that's good.
477
00:19:51,900 --> 00:19:54,560
You would think
that for this kind of
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strong female lead
to be celebrated,
479
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you would have a lot of
women behind the scenes.
480
00:19:59,100 --> 00:20:00,660
In reality...
481
00:20:00,660 --> 00:20:02,400
female writerson The Amanda Show
482
00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,160
told us that this experience
483
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,660
was really one of
the most disturbing
484
00:20:06,660 --> 00:20:08,460
in their careers.
485
00:20:08,460 --> 00:20:13,760
Working for Dan was like being
in an abusive relationship.
486
00:20:24,860 --> 00:20:26,000
At the time,
487
00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,860
there weren't a lotof positions for women
488
00:20:28,860 --> 00:20:30,200
in sketch comedy.
489
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,160
It was very hard to navigate
490
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when you knew
the opportunities
491
00:20:35,260 --> 00:20:37,360
for women were fewer.
492
00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:41,600
You knew you were
going in for the one spot.
493
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,960
This was way back in 1999.
494
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There were forums where people
would talk about writing
495
00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:48,700
and it was inone of those groups,
496
00:20:48,700 --> 00:20:50,530
a television-comedywriting group.
497
00:20:51,460 --> 00:20:53,000
Dan Schneider
was in that group
498
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,100
and he had said that
he was working on this new
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00:20:55,100 --> 00:20:56,360
television show
for Nickelodeon.
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So I just took
a shot and I asked him
501
00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,360
if he would read my work.
502
00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:02,560
And the story
that he told me later
503
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,560
was that Dan gave them
to his Writer's Assistant
504
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,160
and said, you know,
"Read through these
505
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,600
and rate them
funniest on top."
506
00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,800
He was surprised
to find that mine was on top
507
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,100
and that's
what prompted him to call me.
508
00:21:16,660 --> 00:21:19,660
I was actually sittingat my desk at work...
509
00:21:20,700 --> 00:21:22,360
...when the producers
called me
510
00:21:22,360 --> 00:21:24,600
and told me that, you know,
511
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,360
"Congratulations,
we're offering you
512
00:21:26,360 --> 00:21:28,660
a Staff Writer position
on The Amanda Show."
513
00:21:28,660 --> 00:21:30,000
This was, like,
a dream come true.
514
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,000
I had been
in LA for seven years
515
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,660
and so it felt
very satisfying
516
00:21:36,660 --> 00:21:40,730
that, um, someone
was gonna pay me
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to write comedy.
518
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,500
I rememberspeaking to the line producer
519
00:21:47,500 --> 00:21:50,400
and she said that
I was going to have to
520
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,600
split a salary with a writer
that I did not know.
521
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,200
So they were getting
two for the price of one.
522
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:58,900
They were going to
hire two woman
523
00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:00,700
and have them
share a salary.
524
00:22:00,700 --> 00:22:02,860
And I never saw it
happen to any of the men.
525
00:22:02,860 --> 00:22:07,360
I was like, "Well, I'm excited,
I get to stop temping."
526
00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:08,500
This was my dream job.
527
00:22:08,500 --> 00:22:09,660
I mean,
this is what I wanted.
528
00:22:09,660 --> 00:22:11,530
This is what
I worked so hard for.
529
00:22:12,260 --> 00:22:14,200
I'm not about to turn it down.
530
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,200
I thought to myself,
"Don't be a complainer.
531
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,530
You know, do whatever you
have to do to get this job."
532
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,660
I remember the early
days being a lot of fun.
533
00:22:26,660 --> 00:22:30,400
We were on the Paramount lot,which was very exciting.
534
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:31,760
To get to walk around,
535
00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,030
it felt like,
you know, Hollywood.
536
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,100
My first weekon the job,
537
00:22:36,100 --> 00:22:38,060
I got to meetmy writing partner.
538
00:22:38,060 --> 00:22:40,160
Christy's very easyto get along with.
539
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,160
I mean,I liked her immediately.
540
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,660
She was niceand fun
541
00:22:43,660 --> 00:22:46,400
and those
early days were great!
542
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:47,430
They were great.
543
00:22:48,660 --> 00:22:51,300
It was early on,
when we first started,
544
00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:54,830
that Dan said he didn't
think women were funny.
545
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,460
He said womencan't write funny.
546
00:22:57,460 --> 00:23:00,760
He challenged us to namea funny female writer.
547
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:01,800
And he said this
548
00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:04,060
to the writers
in the writers' room.
549
00:23:04,060 --> 00:23:07,300
And that was my firstindication of trouble.
550
00:23:07,300 --> 00:23:10,160
That maybe this guy didn't really
value women in the writers' room.
551
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,760
And later he had said that,
552
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,600
"Hey, do you mind that I refer
to you and Christy as the girls?
553
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,760
Are the girls in the room?
Where are the girls?"
554
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,460
And we both
were, like, "No."
555
00:23:19,460 --> 00:23:22,560
And he said, "Oh, good.
Because I can't stand girls
556
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,060
that are uptight
about things like that."
557
00:23:25,060 --> 00:23:29,100
And when he said that,
I knew that next time
558
00:23:29,100 --> 00:23:30,760
this guy asks me
if I mind something,
559
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,460
there's a right
and wrong answer.
560
00:23:32,460 --> 00:23:34,130
And thank God
I answered right.
561
00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:38,660
Danran the writers' room.
562
00:23:38,660 --> 00:23:42,300
He was there anytimewe were doing any work
563
00:23:42,300 --> 00:23:45,360
and he was very playful.
564
00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:47,760
We would laugh and joke around
565
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,160
and being dirty
was part of the silliness.
566
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,800
Hello, citizens.
My name is Penelope Taynt.
567
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,800
So Penelope Taynt,
568
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,700
um, is a character
that Dan created.
569
00:23:59,700 --> 00:24:02,060
-My name is Penelope Taynt.
-Yeah, I know.
570
00:24:02,060 --> 00:24:04,500
He came upwith the name Penelope Taynt.
571
00:24:04,500 --> 00:24:06,060
The taint is
the part of the body
572
00:24:06,060 --> 00:24:07,860
that's between
the penis and the anus.
573
00:24:07,860 --> 00:24:10,000
It's that skin there,
that's the taint.
574
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,160
And Dan had said to us
in the writers' room,
575
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,160
"Don't tell
what this word really means."
576
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,860
He wanted us
to keep that a secret.
577
00:24:16,860 --> 00:24:19,360
I remember someone
from Nickelodeon
578
00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:20,700
sitting with us
and saying like,
579
00:24:20,700 --> 00:24:24,260
"Oh, does this mean,
you know, this dirty thing?"
580
00:24:24,260 --> 00:24:28,160
And Dan was like, "No.
Why would you think that's, like, tainted?
581
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,660
Like you've
tainted something."
582
00:24:29,660 --> 00:24:30,930
And they were like, "Okay."
583
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,530
Man, that is power.
584
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:35,700
That is power.
585
00:24:35,700 --> 00:24:37,800
That you can just
say you want something
586
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,330
and it's done.
587
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,360
That's what I thought.
588
00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:43,660
So, it got on the show
589
00:24:43,660 --> 00:24:45,800
and it's one of those things
where it's like, "Ooh."
590
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,160
You know, like, "Eh."
591
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:49,460
It's a young girl.
592
00:24:49,460 --> 00:24:52,400
And bless Amanda
and bless The Amanda Show.
593
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,460
In one scene,you know, she's praying
594
00:24:55,460 --> 00:24:56,760
on a twin bed.
595
00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,260
There's something so slimy
about connecting this, like,
596
00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:03,560
sexualized genitalia joke
597
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:08,200
with a little girl who's
portraying a little girl too.
598
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,700
It was clear that
there was a permissibility
599
00:25:11,700 --> 00:25:14,500
around these sexualized
jokes with children.
600
00:25:14,500 --> 00:25:16,000
It waspar for the course.
601
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,500
Like, strange thingsamused Dan
602
00:25:18,500 --> 00:25:20,530
and that was just one of the
things he thought was funny.
603
00:25:21,460 --> 00:25:24,060
He liked to play
pranks and jokes,
604
00:25:24,060 --> 00:25:27,560
which at first seemed fun.
605
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,230
In the beginning, I would see,
you know, an instant message pop up.
606
00:25:30,900 --> 00:25:33,260
Dan would send a message
607
00:25:33,260 --> 00:25:35,060
for you to say out loud.
608
00:25:35,060 --> 00:25:36,530
Scream "hammers."
609
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,200
And you scream it.
610
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:42,400
And then it would be
more degrading, like,
611
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:43,730
scream, "I'm an idiot,"
612
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,600
or "slut."
613
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,560
And if you didn't, he would
send you the message again,
614
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,760
caps, exclamation points,
615
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,260
he would scream out,
"Say it." until you did.
616
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,460
One time Dan said,
617
00:25:56,460 --> 00:26:01,800
"I'll give you $300 to eat two
pints of ice cream in 30 minutes."
618
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,100
And I'm like, "Yeah."
619
00:26:03,100 --> 00:26:05,860
I've got no money,I've got half a salary,
620
00:26:05,860 --> 00:26:09,230
I will absolutely eat two pints
of ice cream in 30 minutes.
621
00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:11,160
And I did,
622
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,030
and I was throwing up
afterwards but it was fine.
623
00:26:15,260 --> 00:26:16,700
Then the money didn't come
624
00:26:16,700 --> 00:26:18,900
and I knew he must'veforgotten about it.
625
00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:20,760
So one day he said...
626
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,660
..."Somebody kill
that fly for $30."
627
00:26:22,660 --> 00:26:24,660
And I go, "Should I
add it to your tab?"
628
00:26:26,860 --> 00:26:29,000
Dan took me into his office
629
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,360
and he said, "How dare you accuse
me of not making good on my bets?"
630
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:36,800
And I was like, "No, no, no, no.
I was, I was just kinda kidding around."
631
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:42,160
He had, um, fostered this
very casual, fun atmosphere,
632
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,360
but I felt that Dancould be very volatile
633
00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:49,430
and could turn any moment.
634
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,960
I was... I was scared.
635
00:27:04,300 --> 00:27:06,860
In a lot of ways,Nickelodeon was creating this
636
00:27:06,860 --> 00:27:08,760
culture where it wasa mini Hollywood.
637
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,100
Like a Hollywood for kids
638
00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:12,660
where all these actors are kind
of competing for the same roles,
639
00:27:12,660 --> 00:27:13,760
they all know each other
640
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,600
and they are in their
own little ecosystem.
641
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,000
- Are you nominated?
-Yes.
642
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,160
How do you feel
about that?
643
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:20,560
Um, it's real exciting.
644
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:21,760
I'm honored
to be nominated.
645
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,900
I don't think I'm gonna win,
but it's still cool.
646
00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:25,760
Something that
epitomizes that really well
647
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:26,900
is the Kids' Choice Awards,
648
00:27:26,900 --> 00:27:30,460
which is almost like the kids'
version of the Oscars.
649
00:27:31,460 --> 00:27:35,500
And the Kids'
Choice is Amanda Bynes!
650
00:27:35,500 --> 00:27:38,100
Amanda Bynes getsthe Kids' Choice Awards.
651
00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:40,000
She was hugely successful
652
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:45,160
and was becoming one of these
massive, massive A-list stars.
653
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,660
Thank you all! Oh, my God!
This is so exciting!
654
00:27:47,660 --> 00:27:51,860
Okay. I want to say thank you to
Nickelodeon, Brian Robbins, Dan Schneider.
655
00:27:51,860 --> 00:27:54,360
The Amanda Show
is on Nickelodeon.
656
00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:56,800
She was giving interviews,
she was on talk shows,
657
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,900
she was everywhere.
658
00:27:58,900 --> 00:28:01,400
Dan Schneider
was very responsible
659
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,500
for Amanda Bynes'
career at that point
660
00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:05,860
and they were
very tied to each other
661
00:28:05,860 --> 00:28:07,560
and I think she trusted him.
662
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,760
My name
is Raquel Lee Bolleau
663
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,260
and I was on the first season
of The Amanda Show.
664
00:28:13,260 --> 00:28:14,360
Mrs. Shane...
665
00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:17,100
The Amanda Show was huge.
It was huge!
666
00:28:17,100 --> 00:28:21,460
We had fans coming and wanting
to, like, see us every episode.
667
00:28:21,460 --> 00:28:26,260
As a 12-year-old girl,I was over the moon.
668
00:28:26,260 --> 00:28:28,160
I was so excited.
669
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:29,760
We'd be out
and people would say,
670
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,660
"Oh, my goodness. You're that
girl on The Amanda Show."
671
00:28:32,660 --> 00:28:34,260
It was a pretty big show.
672
00:28:34,260 --> 00:28:37,230
There was Amanda, of course,
and there was me and Drake.
673
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,460
Him and I wereso silly on this show.
674
00:28:43,100 --> 00:28:44,560
Amanda was the star.
675
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:50,660
So, I think we both knew that we weren't
the stars of the show very early on.
676
00:28:50,660 --> 00:28:51,960
She's the star
so she gets
677
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,630
the extra, extra
handy-dandy equipment.
678
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,260
On The Amanda Show,
Dan is the king maker.
679
00:28:58,260 --> 00:29:01,160
He is the one who is deciding
who gets a spin-off,
680
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,260
who gets the most lines.
681
00:29:03,260 --> 00:29:05,160
If you are on
Dan's bad side,
682
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,560
you kind of could
kiss your career goodbye.
683
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,900
You wanted Dan to like you
684
00:29:08,900 --> 00:29:10,760
'cause if he didn't,
he was mean to you.
685
00:29:11,460 --> 00:29:12,860
It's my 13th birthday.
686
00:29:12,860 --> 00:29:15,700
People brought methis big, big cake,
687
00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:17,060
like, a massive cake.
688
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,600
It was great to beable to share the cake
689
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,560
with the whole crewand everyone else,
690
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,600
but it was told to me,
"Dan's really upset."
691
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,760
Like, "Why did you
get her that cake?"
692
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,100
Like, "That's a big cake.
693
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:30,760
She didn't need
that big of a cake."
694
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,130
And I was just like...
695
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:35,060
And I really...
I felt it.
696
00:29:37,460 --> 00:29:39,560
Of course, as a parent
you want to speak up,
697
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,260
but then I just didn't want
Raquel to face any backlash
698
00:29:43,260 --> 00:29:46,730
for any behaviors
that I had, uh, done.
699
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:49,460
I remember Raquelsaying to me
700
00:29:49,460 --> 00:29:51,800
she felt that
he may have favored,
701
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,560
uh, Drake and Amanda
more than her.
702
00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:01,100
I remember Dan and Amanda Bynes
being very close on The Amanda Show
703
00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:04,860
and I think very few people
made Dan laugh.
704
00:30:05,660 --> 00:30:08,760
You know,and I think she did.
705
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,860
In rehearsal,
she would say funny things
706
00:30:11,860 --> 00:30:13,260
and do funny things.
707
00:30:13,260 --> 00:30:17,100
Uh, yes, this is your doctor.
Yes, Doctor...
708
00:30:21,100 --> 00:30:23,360
I definitelysaw Amanda
709
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,860
being very closephysically with Dan.
710
00:30:26,860 --> 00:30:30,100
There were many times
that I saw Amanda
711
00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:31,900
sitting behind him,
hugging him
712
00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:36,560
or giving him, like,
a neck massage or whatever.
713
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,360
Dan and Amandahad a close relationship
714
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:43,400
and I didn't thinkanything different than that.
715
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,500
The hot tub scene,
716
00:30:45,500 --> 00:30:47,700
though, I thought
was always a little odd.
717
00:30:47,700 --> 00:30:50,000
I am the executive producer
and I'm the headliner.
718
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,360
You actually wrote the words
719
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:52,800
we're saying
to each other right now.
720
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:53,760
Uh, yes.
721
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,500
When you watch the video,
it's Amanda Bynes,
722
00:30:56,500 --> 00:30:58,700
clearly very young,
wearing a swimsuit
723
00:30:58,700 --> 00:30:59,760
in a hot tub
724
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,160
and next to her
is Dan Schneider
725
00:31:02,500 --> 00:31:03,630
fully clothed.
726
00:31:04,660 --> 00:31:06,260
And he's kinda saying,
727
00:31:06,260 --> 00:31:08,260
I created this situation.
728
00:31:08,260 --> 00:31:10,200
I am the reason
we are in this hot tub.
729
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,660
I am pulling the strings.
730
00:31:11,660 --> 00:31:13,200
Now since you're
the executive producer
731
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,960
of the show,
can I have a raise?
732
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:16,860
No.
733
00:31:16,860 --> 00:31:19,660
Maybe at the time
people viewed it as comedy,
734
00:31:19,660 --> 00:31:21,360
but I think now
some people
735
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,860
are very uncomfortable
with the implication.
736
00:31:23,860 --> 00:31:25,660
For me, looking backat The Amanda Show
737
00:31:25,660 --> 00:31:29,000
is really a kinda sadand strange experience.
738
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:30,760
Knowing thatas years went on
739
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:31,860
Amanda and Dan's relationship
740
00:31:31,860 --> 00:31:34,460
would takea turn for the worse.
741
00:31:34,460 --> 00:31:36,560
It is also bittersweet
to watch knowing
742
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:38,960
what the women were dealing
with behind the scenes.
743
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,060
He became a worseand worse person to work for.
744
00:31:42,660 --> 00:31:45,160
Dan called meat home
745
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,860
and he asked me if I was
conspiring against the company.
746
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,760
He said,
"If I find out that you did,
747
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,560
you're never gonna
work for Nickelodeon again."
748
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,300
Dan got worse and worse
as the season got on.
749
00:32:02,300 --> 00:32:04,500
And becauseI was a first-time writer,
750
00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:07,460
I didn't know what was
acceptable and not acceptable.
751
00:32:07,460 --> 00:32:11,130
And so Christy and I both did
things that were uncomfortable.
752
00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:16,860
Dan was showing pornography
on his computer screen.
753
00:32:16,860 --> 00:32:18,000
He'd asked me several times
754
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,660
to massage him
in the writers' room
755
00:32:19,660 --> 00:32:21,100
and in the studio.
756
00:32:21,100 --> 00:32:24,000
And he would
say things sometimes, like,
757
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,260
"Uh, can you please
give me a massage?
758
00:32:26,260 --> 00:32:28,360
I'll put one of your
sketches in the show."
759
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,100
And he would always present it
like a joke, you know?
760
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:34,560
And he would be laughing
while he said it, um, but...
761
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,000
You always felt like
disagreeing with Dan
762
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,160
or saying...
Or standing up for yourself
763
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:40,530
could result
in you getting fired.
764
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,000
One of the worst one was, waswe were in the writers' room
765
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,160
and Christy was talkingabout high school,
766
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,200
which is relevant because
767
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,060
we're writing
for a young girl,
768
00:32:52,060 --> 00:32:56,560
and Dan was just...
said, "You know what would be funny?
769
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,760
If you leaned
over the table
770
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,460
and acted like
you were being sodomized
771
00:33:01,460 --> 00:33:03,730
and told that story
about high school."
772
00:33:06,100 --> 00:33:07,760
She said no at first
773
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,860
and then he was kind of like, "Oh, come
on, come on. It'd be so funny. Just do it.
774
00:33:10,860 --> 00:33:11,760
It'd be so funny."
775
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,860
And everyonewas kind of laughing too
776
00:33:13,860 --> 00:33:16,000
'cause he's making it,like, this big joke.
777
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,260
She couldn't get out of it.
778
00:33:17,260 --> 00:33:18,530
You know,he's begging her.
779
00:33:21,260 --> 00:33:23,060
So she just
leaned over the table and did
780
00:33:23,060 --> 00:33:24,560
what he asked her to do.
781
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,600
Do you remember
Dan asking you
782
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,760
to, um, act out
being sodomized?
783
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,500
Ah, I'd rather not.
784
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:34,930
I'd rather not. I...
785
00:33:35,860 --> 00:33:38,000
I don't wanna
talk about that.
786
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,100
I mean, it's not that I'm not,
787
00:33:39,100 --> 00:33:40,200
like, I'm not proud of it
788
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,630
and I'm also, like, ugh...
789
00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:43,860
Thinking about it now,
790
00:33:44,460 --> 00:33:45,760
yeah, it's like...
791
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,760
Oh, boy.
I just think of that
792
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:52,160
poor girl and what she
had to, you know, go through.
793
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:53,930
Um, yeah.
794
00:33:55,100 --> 00:33:58,060
And I would not
do that today,
795
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,860
but I did it then.
796
00:34:00,860 --> 00:34:03,600
Um, it was upsetting
to watch
797
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,100
because you know... I know,
I knew Christy at this point
798
00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:09,260
and I didn't feel
at all comfortable
799
00:34:09,860 --> 00:34:12,260
complaining to him about
800
00:34:12,260 --> 00:34:16,160
anything that might make him feel
like, "Ugh, there's a girl in the room.
801
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,100
She's killing the vibe."
802
00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:19,000
You don't want to be viewed
803
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,760
as the personthat can't take a joke.
804
00:34:22,460 --> 00:34:24,060
It was probably
the wrongest thing
805
00:34:24,060 --> 00:34:25,460
I've ever seen
happen to a woman in
806
00:34:25,460 --> 00:34:27,060
a professional
environment ever.
807
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,600
And then all of a sudden I hadheard about mid-season,
808
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,200
um, that havingthe writers split their salary
809
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,160
was againstthe rules for the show.
810
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,660
So I called the Writers Guild
to ask them if that was true.
811
00:34:41,660 --> 00:34:43,960
Can, can there be teams
on this show and they said no.
812
00:34:45,700 --> 00:34:47,000
Jenny told me this
813
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,000
and I was going, like, "Wow.
814
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,160
They were trying
to pull a fast one."
815
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,760
Dan called me at home
816
00:34:58,860 --> 00:35:01,460
and he asked me if I was
817
00:35:01,460 --> 00:35:03,460
conspiringagainst the company.
818
00:35:04,860 --> 00:35:07,500
He had found out
that the guild was now
819
00:35:07,500 --> 00:35:10,660
requiring him to pay
for our separate salaries
820
00:35:10,660 --> 00:35:12,760
and he wanted to know if...
821
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,660
if I was the one
that made that happen.
822
00:35:14,660 --> 00:35:16,460
"'Cause if I find out
that you did,
823
00:35:16,460 --> 00:35:18,560
you're never gonna
work for Nickelodeon again
824
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,660
or for any Viacom project."
825
00:35:20,660 --> 00:35:24,560
I was terrified 'cause I'd never
seen him quite that scary before
826
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:28,360
and also,
you know, angry too.
827
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,460
He had gotten caught doing
something ethically wrong
828
00:35:32,460 --> 00:35:35,600
and said, "If I find out
you told on me,
829
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,600
I'm going to do something
even worse to you.
830
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:39,860
You're not gonna
work again."
831
00:35:42,260 --> 00:35:46,530
I think thingsstarted to change with Dan.
832
00:35:47,460 --> 00:35:49,130
You could feel his presence.
833
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,730
When he walked on the set,
the crew could feel it.
834
00:35:55,360 --> 00:35:58,800
He wasn't the happy guy
making jokes anymore.
835
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,260
There was a few timeswhen he came down
836
00:36:01,260 --> 00:36:03,660
that he lit everybody up.
837
00:36:04,260 --> 00:36:05,700
Dan yelled a lot.
838
00:36:05,700 --> 00:36:07,360
Dan was like a tornado.
839
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,360
He'd come in
and, like, phew...
840
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,560
You'd be like, "Wow. Okay.
What just happened?"
841
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,460
Dan showed up.
842
00:36:14,460 --> 00:36:17,560
The set would not feel the same
when, when he would leave
843
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,860
because, you know, I think
844
00:36:19,860 --> 00:36:23,160
because everybody
was on their toes, scared.
845
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,560
He couldliterally be nice
846
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,000
and then mean and then nice
847
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,760
and then mean, like,throughout the day.
848
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,000
So one minute I'm like,
849
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,100
"I've got Dan wrong. He's really nice.
He's supportive."
850
00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:34,060
and then, like,
an hour later I could be like,
851
00:36:34,700 --> 00:36:36,060
"This guy is scary as hell."
852
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:43,460
We were all feeling,
near the end, paranoid,
853
00:36:43,460 --> 00:36:46,400
uncomfortable, um...
854
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,160
It was just a bad...
it was just a bad vibe.
855
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:55,060
We all felt like, you know,
the axe could drop at any moment.
856
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:58,860
It was our last week of work
857
00:36:58,860 --> 00:37:01,460
for Season 1of The Amanda Show.
858
00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:05,600
I had this meeting
at my manager's office
859
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:10,930
and, uh, by the time I got in
my car to go back to the office,
860
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,660
I had been fired.
861
00:37:13,660 --> 00:37:16,100
Dan, basically,owned all of your time.
862
00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:18,500
Your weekends, after work,
863
00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:23,300
and Christy had done two personal
things during the season, like,
864
00:37:23,300 --> 00:37:26,360
she had gone to
a concert on the weekend
865
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,660
and she had
friends over one night
866
00:37:28,660 --> 00:37:32,560
and she basically
got fired for that.
867
00:37:33,860 --> 00:37:37,400
It just feltvery vindictive that, um,
868
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:42,160
it was three days, three more days
of, of, of being paid.
869
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,030
So I went back to temping
and I had nothing.
870
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,460
I went downto the studio to meet with Dan
871
00:37:52,460 --> 00:37:55,060
about Season 2.He said, "Here's the deal.
872
00:37:55,060 --> 00:37:57,560
We're bringing you back
for Season 2, staff writer.
873
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,100
We're offering you
a 16-week contract,
874
00:38:00,100 --> 00:38:02,000
but you need to
work the whole season."
875
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,400
Which was,
I believe, 27 weeks.
876
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,000
He was telling me I had
to work 11 weeks for free
877
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:08,330
and I was devastated.
878
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,000
'Cause I'd proven myself.
879
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,700
I'd written well,I'd paid my dues
880
00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:14,930
and he said, This isall the money that we have."
881
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,660
And then, meanwhile,
he hired a white male
882
00:38:17,660 --> 00:38:19,300
at full salary.
883
00:38:19,300 --> 00:38:21,560
No credits,
you know, first job
884
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,100
but he's asking me,
885
00:38:23,100 --> 00:38:24,900
second season
on the same show,
886
00:38:24,900 --> 00:38:26,530
"You have to work
11 weeks for free."
887
00:38:32,460 --> 00:38:34,860
I lasted four days
in Season 2.
888
00:38:37,260 --> 00:38:39,000
Dan gave us this assignment,
889
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,700
asked all the male writersinto his office,
890
00:38:41,700 --> 00:38:42,730
and left me out,
891
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,260
and then he called me in
892
00:38:45,260 --> 00:38:47,100
and all the menwere standing
893
00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:49,460
and Dan wasbehind his desk.
894
00:38:49,460 --> 00:38:52,630
And he said,"Okay, pitch your idea."
895
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,060
I pitched my idea
896
00:38:56,460 --> 00:38:58,100
and he said,
897
00:38:58,100 --> 00:38:59,630
"Didn't youused to do phone sex?"
898
00:39:01,260 --> 00:39:03,360
Just like that, like,
out of nowhere.
899
00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:05,160
I was like, "No, Dan."
900
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:06,200
And he goes like,
"Didn't you tell us?
901
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:07,560
Didn't you
say that last season,
902
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,460
that you used to have a job like
that, something like that?"
903
00:39:10,660 --> 00:39:11,900
No.
904
00:39:11,900 --> 00:39:13,060
I was destroyed.
905
00:39:13,060 --> 00:39:15,000
I went outside,
I was crying.
906
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,200
I can't do this.
907
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,360
So, I did. I went home
and I quit.
908
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:20,960
And it was so devastating.
909
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,460
It was so hard
to let go of that job but...
910
00:39:25,460 --> 00:39:26,760
I mean, I just
couldn't do it anymore.
911
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:28,800
There's no way I was
gonna be the only woman
912
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,230
in that
world with him. No way.
913
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,630
I wasat my temping job.
914
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,000
I get a call from Jenny,
915
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,260
"I'm suing Dan."
916
00:39:49,460 --> 00:39:51,430
And I remember thinking...
917
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,160
Like, it just
took me by surprise
918
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,900
because we were all afraid.
919
00:39:55,900 --> 00:39:59,860
We are all afraid. That's why just
me and Jenny are talking to you.
920
00:39:59,860 --> 00:40:02,800
Like, people
are afraid of him.
921
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,100
The reason
I did it was because
922
00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:07,700
I didn't want this to be happening
to other women in the future.
923
00:40:07,700 --> 00:40:13,460
She said, "Hey, um, can,
can you write a letter on my behalf?"
924
00:40:13,460 --> 00:40:15,430
And I said,
"Of course, I will."
925
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:17,900
And so then I hired...
926
00:40:17,900 --> 00:40:21,830
I hired a lawyer
and started blowing whistles.
927
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,560
So my lawyerfiled complaints
928
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,100
against theproduction company
929
00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:31,700
for gender discrimination,
930
00:40:31,700 --> 00:40:35,160
hostile work environment,harassment...
931
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,100
Yeah, and in response
932
00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:39,160
they didan internal investigation
933
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:40,860
and they settled,
934
00:40:40,860 --> 00:40:43,630
but it had a lasting
impact on my career.
935
00:40:44,060 --> 00:40:45,200
I mean, I knew that.
936
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,100
I knew that this
was the end of my career,
937
00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:48,560
so it had better be worth it.
938
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:49,800
Like, it had better stop.
939
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,630
And to learn
that it didn't stop?
940
00:40:54,060 --> 00:40:55,330
That it was all for nothing?
941
00:40:59,500 --> 00:41:02,660
The Amanda Show was
Dan Schneider's first show
942
00:41:02,660 --> 00:41:03,660
and he had a complaint
943
00:41:03,660 --> 00:41:05,200
against him
for gender discrimination
944
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:07,160
and creating
a toxic work place,
945
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,860
on his first
big show that he did.
946
00:41:09,860 --> 00:41:12,300
So a lot of the seeds
of the issues that we see
947
00:41:12,300 --> 00:41:13,800
throughout
Dan Schneider's empire,
948
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,200
were there
from the beginning.
949
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,360
How safe can any kids
be in that environment
950
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,000
if that's how
the adult women
951
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,000
are being treated
behind the scenes?
952
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:26,760
And on Dan's showsthere was always this,
953
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,460
kind of, murkiness inwhat was appropriate
954
00:41:29,460 --> 00:41:31,300
and what was inappropriate.
955
00:41:31,300 --> 00:41:32,900
I don't like this.
956
00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:35,760
But there would be even
bigger problems down the line
957
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,530
with actual pedophileson set.
958
00:41:41,300 --> 00:41:44,760
Van Nuys division officers have
arrested a suspected child predator
959
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:45,800
charged with kissing
960
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:48,000
and touchinga nine-year-old girl,
961
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,330
but officers believethere may be more victims.
74647
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