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>>DAVID WILCOCK: Welcome
to "Cosmic Disclosure."
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I'm your host, David Wilcock.
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And in this episode, we're going
to be getting into the Germans
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traveling to Mars.
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However, in between
episodes, it occurred to me
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that there are some really
important unanswered questions.
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One of these questions is that
we have artifacts on the moon,
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and there are also
artifacts on Mars.
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So we're going to get
into the relationship
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between these ancient artifacts
on the moon and on Mars,
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since the Germans ultimately
found them on both spheres.
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This will help us
to build our way
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into understanding what the
Germans actually did on Mars.
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So all of that will be
covered in this one episode.
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So, Corey, I'm really excited
to get into this, and thanks
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for being on the show.
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>>COREY GOODE: Thank you.
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>>DAVID: So, Corey,
we were talking
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about the German
development of the moon
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in the previous episode.
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How do you feel that this
was accomplished in light
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of the Ancient Builder race?
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Were there Ancient Builder
race ruins on the moon
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that they were able
to find when they
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were doing that research
when they first got there?
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>>GOODE: Yes.
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There are Ancient
Builder race ruins
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all over the entire solar system
and underneath the surface
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of our planet.
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>>DAVID: What specific
Ancient Builder race ruins
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did they find on the moon?
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>>GOODE: I think some of
the most significant ones
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that you would be interested
in, and a lot of others,
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are some of the
ancient buildings that
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were obviously built for a
race of very tall beings,
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unless they were beings that
just liked a lot of headroom
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and really tall
arches and doorways.
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>>DAVID: When you
say really tall,
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what are we talking in feet,
like what was the estimated
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height of these people?
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>>GOODE: Some of the stone
seats and the doorways,
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we're talking upwards
60, 70, 80 feet.
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>>DAVID: Beings 60,
70, 80 feet tall?
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>>GOODE: Tall.
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>>DAVID: When you
say stone seats,
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what would they look like?
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Would there be anything
that we could see
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on Earth that would be similar?
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>>GOODE: They called them
thrones, but they were not.
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There were lines of
seatings along walls
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that were facing
outward, that I guess
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the closest that we would
see in an older castle
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would be like a throne room
with thrones against a wall.
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>>DAVID: Were these
seats carved just
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as very utilitarian and basic?
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Or did they have sort of
ornate designs to them?
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What was the aesthetic
of the seats?
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>>GOODE: They at one time had
writing or emblems on them
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and symbols on them, but
someone for some reason
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had sandblasted or removed
them, same with any other area
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in these buildings
and structures that
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seemed to have had any type
of indication of writing
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characters or images.
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They were erased,
as if-- I guess
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they say the victor
always writes the history.
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Well, maybe other ET groups
moved in millennia later
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and decided, we want
to write the history,
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we want to be known as the gods.
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So they erased what was written.
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>>DAVID: Did these
thrones just appear
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etched into the
side of a mountain,
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like we might see with
Mount Rushmore on Earth?
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Or were they inside
rooms of some kind?
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>>GOODE: They were inside rooms.
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And this was very high tech.
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It was obviously manipulated
matter, technologically
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manipulated matter.
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>>DAVID: So describe for us--
how would you find a room?
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Do you see like a dome, and
then you go into the dome?
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Is it built into the
side of a mountain?
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Is it underground?
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Where do you actually
see these rooms?
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How do you get into a room?
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>>GOODE: These are mostly
covered structures now
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by moon dust and meteors that
have hit and left remnants.
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They've been there a long time.
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But there would have to be
a certain amount dug out.
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Maybe 10% would be
above the surface.
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And even that would
have to be uncovered.
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And the rest would
have to be dug out,
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and then they would go in
and excavate and check out
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the interiors.
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>>DAVID: Were these structures
on both the Earth-facing
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and the dark side of the moon?
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>>GOODE: All over.
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>>DAVID: And so is the
building often square?
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Or is it more of a
circular type of shape?
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What was the shape "clue"
that this was a site and not
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just another irregularity
in the moon's surface?
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>>GOODE: These buildings were
found in all different shapes,
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all different
conditions, and made out
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of different types of
materials, including
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the before-discussed
transparent alloy aluminum
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material, or parts
of the buildings
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were made out of that material.
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>>DAVID: So some
of these buildings,
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the walls you could actually
see right through them
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once you uncovered them
from the lunar regolith?
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>>GOODE: Right.
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>>DAVID: Wow.
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Now, Richard Hoagland
has talked extensively
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about what he believes
to be glass domes that
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were on the moon and the idea
that it could be pressurized
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inside, and you could have
plants and trees in there.
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Did you encounter any
evidence that there
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were, in fact, glass domes?
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>>GOODE: There are all
sorts of glass structures
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that are mainly destroyed.
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>>DAVID: Including domes?
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>>GOODE: Including
domes and towers.
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>>DAVID: And when you
say destroyed, by who?
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>>GOODE: It may be by
what, by a cataclysm.
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A lot of stuff is
left on the moon
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as a reminder of a great war.
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There is quite a bit of
other material and items
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that are left that come
from much longer ago.
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The oceans of time we're talking
about here are mind-boggling.
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And the number of
different groups and races
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that have contributed to the
trinkets and the buildings that
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are on the surface is
just as mind-boggling.
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>>DAVID: Let's talk
about the parallels
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between whatever was
found on the moon
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and whatever was found on Mars.
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Because the German scientists,
let's say-- because they're not
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all Nazis-- when
they went to Mars,
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did they find similar structures
as what we saw on the moon?
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>>GOODE: Yes.
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These Ancient Builder
races and other races
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that have come into
our solar system
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through the ebb and flow of
time and fought for control
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over the solar system,
controlled, lost control,
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come back millennia later--
this has gone on for millennia--
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their structures have
been found all over
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the entire solar system.
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Our solar system is littered
with ancient, ancient
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archaeological sites.
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>>DAVID: You mentioned before
that there's a big portal that
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goes to other galaxies.
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It's right outside
our solar system.
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>>GOODE: There's a
portal system that
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is a part of the cosmic
web, and our solar system
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is in a very coveted area.
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And yes, that portal
system spreads out
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not only to other galaxies
but other star systems
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within our own galaxy.
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>>DAVID: So we're in like
a real high-rent district.
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>>GOODE: Yes.
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>>DAVID: Would you say, then,
that our solar system has
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a lot more colonization and
history than most civilizations
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that would be in more
of a country area,
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as opposed to an urbanized
district like this?
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>>GOODE: I've been told
that we're basically
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an oasis on a cosmic silk road.
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>>DAVID: NASA came out
recently and suggested
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that Mars at one point had a
1 and 1/2 mile deep ocean that
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covered at least
half of its surface
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like the northern hemisphere.
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That's NASA saying that.
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Why do you think
they would say that?
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>>GOODE: I think we're
getting to a point
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in human consciousness to where
it's becoming pretty ridiculous
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to try to hide what's
in front of our face
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when we look at Mars.
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Plenty of people have taken
satellite views of Earth,
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satellite images of Earth,
satellite images of Mars,
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put them side by side and
geologically proven and shown
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that they've had the same
type of activity on them.
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>>DAVID: So did you
encounter information
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suggesting that Mars was
more Earth-like at one time?
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>>GOODE: Yes.
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>>DAVID: You had mentioned
before that the asteroid belt
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was a destroyed planet.
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Hoagland and others
have done work
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suggesting that
Mars was originally
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a moon of this planet.
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Did you encounter
anything like that?
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>>GOODE: According to
the smart glass pad,
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that was the intelligence--
that Mars was at one time
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a satellite of a super
Earth that existed now
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where we have an asteroid belt.
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>>DAVID: Was Mars also a watery
planet with oceans as well
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at that time?
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>>GOODE: It had oceans and
a very thick atmosphere that
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was blown off in the same event
that changed its current orbit
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and created the asteroid belt.
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>>DAVID: When you look at the
work of certain astronomers
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such as Dr. Thomas Van Flandern,
who have studied what he called
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the Exploding Planet Hypothesis,
or EPH, we see half of Mars
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is totally covered with craters.
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The other half is
really quite smooth.
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So do you think that that
was asteroids from the planet
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exploding, hitting Mars?
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Did you encounter
anything suggesting
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that's what happened?
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>>GOODE: Yes.
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And we can go into this
in quite a bit of detail.
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There was a lot.
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The surface of Mars, half of
it, has heavy shocked quartz
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and deposits.
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And half of Mars is
positively charged.
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The other half is
negatively charged.
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And because of what had
happened to it in this event,
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it is now a basically
giant capacitor.
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>>DAVID: Hmm.
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So we have this whole,
huge planet that's
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a habitable world with oceans.
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And then there is
a moon around it
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that became Mars, as we think
of it, that was also habitable.
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Did you encounter
any information
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suggesting that there were
opposing civilizations
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on each of these spheres?
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Or was it all part of
one greater civilization?
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Do we know that?
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>>GOODE: I saw the nuts and
bolts, scientific information.
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That's where we start
getting into the secret Earth
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government syndicate,
or Illuminati,
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religious ideas about all these
ideas about what happened.
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They've created all
kinds of myths and ideas
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about how it happened
and what happened,
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and they believe it as
fervently as any other person
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believes their religion.
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>>DAVID: Now, you said a little
earlier that these buildings
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on the moon, we were
talking about thrones
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that you found on the moon with
buildings, different types that
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were buried in the
ground, and you
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said that there was some
kind of effort to wipe off
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the writing and the
insignias on them.
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Do we find similar
structures like that on Mars?
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>>GOODE: Yes, all over the
solar system, and they've
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all been treated
in the same manner.
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>>DAVID: Did these
structures appear
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to have been built
when Mars still
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had oceans before
it got this blast
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from the planet exploding?
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>>GOODE: I am going
off of memory here,
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and I don't want to
get into speculation,
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but that seems right.
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>>DAVID: How much
architecture is on Mars?
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How much stuff is there to
find that shows that there was
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an advanced civilization there?
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>>GOODE: Most of it is
either underground or really
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destroyed.
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The surface of Mars went
through such a huge catastrophe.
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It looks like a shockwave went
around and around the planet.
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The geology is all screwed up.
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It's just a big mess.
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>>DAVID: Well, let's
talk specifically
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now about Cydonia, which
is the area that Richard
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Hoagland talked
about with the face
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and what appears to be a
five-sided pyramid nearby.
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>>GOODE: I saw the pyramids.
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>>DAVID: What do mean
you saw the pyramids?
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>>GOODE: I saw
five-sided pyramids.
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I saw pyramids--
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>>DAVID: But we've all
seen pictures of that.
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>>GOODE: I have flown over
and saw the pyramids--
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>>DAVID: Really?
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>>GOODE: --that were partially
buried with like mud or sludge.
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Either I did not fly over
the area where the face was,
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or I didn't see it.
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I did not see a face.
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>>DAVID: Are you seeing parts
of the pyramids that still look
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like a stone-carved surface?
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Or was it all covered in
some degree of debris?
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>>GOODE: Part of it is
sticking up out of the debris,
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but I would say most of
it is-- they are quite
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a bit larger than people
think because they
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are covered in sludge.
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>>DAVID: I'm remembering
one insider, Daniel, tell me
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that he saw a picture
of astronauts waving
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next to a pyramid on
Mars and that there
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was a very nice, sharp line
of the pyramid going up.
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So it seems like you're kind
of confirming that there would
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be certain pyramids
where there are still
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some sharpness that could
be visible from the ground.
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>>GOODE: They were
obviously pyramids.
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>>DAVID: Wow.
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OK, so the Germans
went to the moon,
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and you said they went
to the asteroid belt,
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and they also went to Mars.
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So what is the sequence?
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Did they do all this
at the same time?
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Or how did they approach this?
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>>GOODE: Well, first
they went to the moon.
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After a failed attempt, they
set up their base on the moon.
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And then they went to Mars.
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And then they set up another
temporary base on Mars
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when they built out a
larger base on Mars.
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>>DAVID: OK, so let's just
pause there for a second.
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Germans get to Mars.
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We haven't had
NASA go to Mars yet
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at this point in our history.
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What's the year that we're
talking that they got there
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that you know of?
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>>GOODE: This was all
happening in the late '30s
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and early '40s.
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>>DAVID: Did they look
specifically for archaeology?
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>>GOODE: I just know that
they were looking for bases
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to create outside of the Earth,
as well as bases in areas
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of the Earth that were
inhospitable or out
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of the reach of the regular
civilization of Earth.
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>>DAVID: How did they
have breathable air
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inside these craft?
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Was that part of
extraterrestrial technology
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that they were given so that
they could have a long trip
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and not need to come back here?
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>>GOODE: Yeah,
they had developed
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some of their super submarines.
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They had already begun
to develop carbon dioxide
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scrubbers and closed-system
oxygen-breathing systems.
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They had already started to
develop that for some time.
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But it was after they had worked
in development with these ET
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groups and developed
advanced technology that
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not only gave them
electrogravitic travel
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but also gave them the ability
to have artificial gravity,
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and also have environmental
controls that they
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felt comfortable leaving
that far from Earth.
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>>DAVID: Would they travel
from the Earth to Mars?
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Or did they have a space station
that they built somewhere
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between as like a supply depot?
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>>GOODE: They traveled
from the Earth to the moon,
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from the moon to Mars, just
like we have planned to do.
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>>DAVID: And what's
the time of that trip?
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Like if you travel
from the moon to Mars,
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how long would it
take them based
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on that technology in the '30s?
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>>GOODE: It would have
been a matter of hours.
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I don't know exactly how long.
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>>DAVID: And you say back then,
as in now it would be faster?
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>>GOODE: Now it's a
matter of minutes.
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>>DAVID: Wow.
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Let's say that they are looking
from the surface of Mars now.
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Some researchers have said,
and Hoagland is one of them,
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that the original Viking
Lander photos seem
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to have had the red
turned up in the image
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and that the sky does
not actually look red,
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but it's actually
blue like the Earth.
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>>GOODE: Yes, they
turned a red filter on.
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But you have to understand,
there are times,
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depending on the-- it's
very dynamic on Mars.
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There are times
when the sky is red.
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There's so much dust in the
air, especially if you're
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in the equatorial areas.
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The closer you get
to the polar regions,
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the less atmospheric sand
you have, debris you have.
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And there are aurora borealis.
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You have a purplish pink
sky depending on the time
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of day, sunset, sunrise.
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But during the day, there is
kind of a purplish blue sky,
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but there is a lot of
time when the sky, because
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of all the storms, is
full of the red sand.
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And it's red.
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>>DAVID: Could we breathe
the air anywhere on Mars?
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>>GOODE: It's not advisable to
breathe it anywhere on Mars.
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In the northern and
southern regions,
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it's easier to breathe.
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But it's more like being at
the top of Mount Everest.
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Oxygen is thin.
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The barometric pressure
is very, very, very thin.
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You do need a light duty,
lightweight protective suit,
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and usually a respirator that
is releasing some oxygen to you.
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>>DAVID: Very interesting.
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You said before that
the moon is heavily
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inhabited with a variety
of different races.
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Are there satellites orbiting
Mars or space platforms
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that have weapons' systems
that will shoot you down
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if you try to go to that planet?
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How did the Germans-- did
they just fly right in?
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Or did they encounter
some resistance?
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>>GOODE: I do not know if
they encountered resistance.
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I believe at that point they
had already formed an alliance.
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So I believe that people, or
the group that they had formed
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an alliance with, would have
been the people-- "people"--
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that you would have to worry
about shooting you down.
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>>DAVID: Right.
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>>GOODE: There are a couple
small moons around Mars.
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>>DAVID: Phobos
and Deimos, yeah.
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>>GOODE: And there are
satellites, current era,
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like crazy around Mars.
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>>DAVID: Really?
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Satellites built by modern
humans, you're saying?
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>>GOODE: Modern humans, modern
humans that inhabit Mars.
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>>DAVID: Really?
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People that were born on
Earth that migrated to Mars
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and built those satellites?
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Is that what you're saying?
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>>GOODE: People that may
be descendants of people
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that were born on Earth.
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>>DAVID: And you said it's
filled with satellites?
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>>GOODE: Yeah.
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There are plenty of
satellites around Mars.
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>>DAVID: Wow.
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>>GOODE: And some of them
are weapons' systems.
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And a lot of these
are people that
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are descendants from some of the
German groups that established
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early colonies on Mars
that later on grew
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after the Germans co-opted the
military-industrial complex
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of the United States.
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These colonies grew
across the planet.
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And a lot of these people that
are there now are descendants.
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>>DAVID: I want to
get back to that,
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but you mentioned
Phobos and Deimos.
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People who've studied
this information
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online and have really
kind of gotten into Mars,
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it's kind of a
commonly known thing
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that the moons are, I guess,
too close to the planet
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and that they also move too
quickly in their orbits.
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I guess some people,
like Hoagland, have also
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said that it appears that
they're hollow inside
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based on their signatures.
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So what are we looking at
with Phobos and Deimos?
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Are they just moons?
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Or is there something
else going on?
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>>GOODE: Phobos is crushed,
is a crushed sphere.
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>>DAVID: Really?
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So it was originally a
perfectly round sphere?
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>>GOODE: It was at
one time a sphere.
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>>DAVID: Wow.
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>>GOODE: And at one
end, there's an opening.
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>>DAVID: So they don't
show us that from NASA?
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They just make sure they
photoshop it out or something?
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>>GOODE: I haven't really
looked at the NASA images,
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but I know that NASA photoshops
and airbrushes images
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at an unbelievable rate of Mars,
the moon, and other planetoids.
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So I would imagine there are
a lot of things about Phobos
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that they photoshop
or make out of focus.
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>>DAVID: Well, one of the
weird things about it-- and I
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can see it perfectly in my mind,
and we'll put it up on screen--
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is Phobos has these
very extensive,
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parallel, straight lines that
are all in the same direction.
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And then there's others
that are going 90 degrees.
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>>GOODE: Yeah,
they're like ridges.
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>>DAVID: What do
you think that is?
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>>GOODE: Just like on
the moon, our moon--
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this gets into a
whole other topic.
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Our moon is an
artificial structure.
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On top of it are hundreds and
hundreds of feet of regolith
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and just smashed meteor
matter that have built up
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over many millennia.
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And Phobos has its own
gravitational field,
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and it pulls debris
on top of it.
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And underneath this debris
is a super structure.
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>>DAVID: Did the Germans show
any initial interest in Phobos
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if there's a hole in it
that you could fly into?
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Did they do that when
they first got there?
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>>GOODE: I did not see
any record of them.
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>>DAVID: What about Demos?
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You mentioned Phobos is
a collapsed sphere, which
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I guess implies that there's
a lot of hollowness inside.
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Is Demos also something other
than just a regular moon?
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>>GOODE: I did not read anything
about it being artificial.
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So it's possible that it
might be a natural object that
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was captured in a cataclysm
that happened a long time ago.
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>>DAVID: First of all, is
there liquid water running
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on the surface now
in certain places?
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>>GOODE: Mars has a very strange
cycle year, yearly cycle.
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At certain times,
the water that is
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at the surface in the
form of ice liquefies.
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>>DAVID: Really?
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>>GOODE: But not for long.
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I never saw information
about lakes, small oceans
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in the current era.
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I never flew over bodies of
water or saw bodies of water.
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>>DAVID: OK.
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So did the Germans
have a plan to try
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to use local materials to
make a sustainable base when
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they got there?
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Was that always the intention?
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>>GOODE: Yes.
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Just as on the
moon, they planned
482
00:28:30,877 --> 00:28:33,112
to take a certain
amount of resources
483
00:28:33,212 --> 00:28:36,482
to Mars, lime and all
the different things
484
00:28:36,582 --> 00:28:43,956
they need to mix with local
resources to make concrete
485
00:28:44,056 --> 00:28:50,562
and whatever they needed
to build structures
486
00:28:50,662 --> 00:28:56,836
that they could then pressurize
and use as temporary shelters.
487
00:28:56,936 --> 00:28:59,939
They had to make
quite a few trips
488
00:29:00,039 --> 00:29:04,676
to bring people and materials
over in the beginning.
489
00:29:04,777 --> 00:29:08,647
This was in the beginning
of when they were using
490
00:29:08,747 --> 00:29:12,484
stargate or portal travel.
491
00:29:12,584 --> 00:29:18,124
And in this early era,
they were using the portals
492
00:29:18,224 --> 00:29:24,496
to transport materials and
not people or organics.
493
00:29:24,596 --> 00:29:26,598
>>DAVID: Did they have
trouble with the organics
494
00:29:26,698 --> 00:29:31,237
having damage, like
to their life cycle?
495
00:29:31,337 --> 00:29:34,706
>>GOODE: Yes, as in killing
them in a very gruesome way.
496
00:29:34,807 --> 00:29:36,208
>>DAVID: Right.
497
00:29:36,308 --> 00:29:39,178
>>GOODE: Until they
figured out the proper way
498
00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:45,051
to do it with help from some of
these allied extraterrestrial
499
00:29:45,151 --> 00:29:46,052
groups.
500
00:29:46,152 --> 00:29:47,719
>>DAVID: So what's
the year that you
501
00:29:47,820 --> 00:29:52,558
know where portals started to
be used to transport materials?
502
00:29:52,658 --> 00:29:54,961
>>GOODE: They've
been using portals
503
00:29:55,061 --> 00:29:59,832
to transport materials--
they've known how to do
504
00:29:59,932 --> 00:30:01,901
that since the '30s and '40s.
505
00:30:02,001 --> 00:30:04,136
>>DAVID: Wow.
506
00:30:04,236 --> 00:30:06,238
So that's well before the
Philadelphia Experiment.
507
00:30:06,338 --> 00:30:08,607
>>GOODE: Right.
508
00:30:08,707 --> 00:30:10,609
And you saw how badly
that went with the people.
509
00:30:10,709 --> 00:30:11,911
>>DAVID: Absolutely.
510
00:30:12,011 --> 00:30:14,046
>>GOODE: It wasn't
until the '50s
511
00:30:14,146 --> 00:30:19,318
that they were able to
start transporting people
512
00:30:19,418 --> 00:30:23,455
consistently without
them suffering.
513
00:30:23,555 --> 00:30:27,326
I believe they called
it temporal dementia.
514
00:30:27,426 --> 00:30:34,934
People would teleport
intact from here to Mars.
515
00:30:35,034 --> 00:30:39,738
They would look fine, but
then after a number of days,
516
00:30:39,838 --> 00:30:41,941
they would suffer
some sort of dementia,
517
00:30:42,041 --> 00:30:45,077
they would call
temporal dementia.
518
00:30:45,177 --> 00:30:48,314
And the Germans
did a lot of work
519
00:30:48,414 --> 00:30:51,817
in this field that
helped us figure out
520
00:30:51,918 --> 00:30:56,788
how to do this properly-- them
working alongside their ET
521
00:30:56,889 --> 00:30:59,125
allies.
522
00:30:59,225 --> 00:31:02,328
>>DAVID: It's such
a mind-blowing thing
523
00:31:02,428 --> 00:31:05,497
to imagine that there were
artifacts already there,
524
00:31:05,597 --> 00:31:08,700
like pyramids, when
the Germans got there.
525
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,469
How much were they
interested in trying
526
00:31:10,569 --> 00:31:12,972
to reoccupy what was there,
and how much were they just
527
00:31:13,072 --> 00:31:14,506
trying to build new stuff?
528
00:31:14,606 --> 00:31:17,009
>>GOODE: In the beginning, it
was getting a lay of the land.
529
00:31:21,180 --> 00:31:23,349
Just like we're doing,
they were mapping out Mars,
530
00:31:23,449 --> 00:31:25,884
getting a lay of the land.
531
00:31:25,985 --> 00:31:30,656
They had quite a bit of data
on the geography of Mars
532
00:31:30,756 --> 00:31:33,159
and these smart glass pads.
533
00:31:33,259 --> 00:31:40,266
And this was information that
was presented on a smart glass
534
00:31:40,366 --> 00:31:43,435
pad that's very
technical, but it
535
00:31:43,535 --> 00:31:48,440
came from like typed sheets
of paper that I was seeing.
536
00:31:48,540 --> 00:31:53,779
So they didn't have
a real high-tech way
537
00:31:53,879 --> 00:31:56,315
of showing this information.
538
00:31:56,415 --> 00:31:57,716
>>DAVID: So the
Germans originally
539
00:31:57,816 --> 00:32:00,552
didn't have these smart glass
pads, as you said before,
540
00:32:00,652 --> 00:32:03,689
but the data that they came
up with in their surveying
541
00:32:03,789 --> 00:32:08,327
you saw as these JPEGs,
or whatever they are,
542
00:32:08,427 --> 00:32:10,629
of original,
typewritten documents.
543
00:32:10,729 --> 00:32:11,763
>>GOODE: Right.
544
00:32:11,863 --> 00:32:16,502
And some older photos
from old 35-millimeter,
545
00:32:16,602 --> 00:32:18,937
or whatever they
used, photographs.
546
00:32:19,038 --> 00:32:20,406
>>DAVID: Were there
are photographs
547
00:32:20,506 --> 00:32:24,210
of cool-looking ruins from old
civilizations that you saw?
548
00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:28,680
>>GOODE: Yes, of ruins and of
aerial photographs of areas,
549
00:32:28,780 --> 00:32:31,150
the huge volcano--
550
00:32:31,250 --> 00:32:32,051
>>DAVID: Olympus Mons.
551
00:32:32,151 --> 00:32:33,452
>>GOODE: Olympus Mons.
552
00:32:33,552 --> 00:32:40,292
There are lava tubes that are
10 times the size of the lava
553
00:32:40,392 --> 00:32:42,328
tubes we have here.
554
00:32:42,428 --> 00:32:49,035
And they are perfect
for sealing and creating
555
00:32:49,135 --> 00:32:50,602
an environment on the inside.
556
00:32:50,702 --> 00:32:54,440
And you have an easy,
ready-made base.
557
00:32:54,540 --> 00:32:59,878
And that is a very highly
coveted area to create bases.
558
00:32:59,978 --> 00:33:03,582
And the Germans wanted it.
559
00:33:03,682 --> 00:33:14,093
Later the ICC groups, I guess
the modern space program
560
00:33:14,193 --> 00:33:19,365
groups, wanted to
utilize that area.
561
00:33:19,465 --> 00:33:23,135
But it was already
occupied by another group.
562
00:33:23,235 --> 00:33:26,672
There were a lot of them, and
they defended it fiercely.
563
00:33:26,772 --> 00:33:27,839
>>DAVID: Really?
564
00:33:27,939 --> 00:33:29,308
Do we know anything
about what they look like
565
00:33:29,408 --> 00:33:30,409
or where they're from?
566
00:33:30,509 --> 00:33:32,478
>>GOODE: Yes.
567
00:33:32,578 --> 00:33:36,048
There's a treaty between
some of these groups.
568
00:33:36,148 --> 00:33:39,085
One of the groups
are a reptilian type,
569
00:33:39,185 --> 00:33:42,688
and the other are
an insectoid type.
570
00:33:42,788 --> 00:33:45,557
>>DAVID: That's kind
of what I expect.
571
00:33:45,657 --> 00:33:47,893
>>GOODE: That is a
very coveted area.
572
00:33:47,993 --> 00:33:50,229
>>DAVID: So when you say 10
times bigger than lava tubes
573
00:33:50,329 --> 00:33:55,134
on Earth, are we talking five
miles wide, 20 miles wide,
574
00:33:55,234 --> 00:33:59,605
50 miles wide, top to bottom?
575
00:33:59,705 --> 00:34:02,708
>>GOODE: I mean, huge.
576
00:34:02,808 --> 00:34:07,679
I mean, they dwarf any of
the caverns or the tubes
577
00:34:07,779 --> 00:34:08,814
that we have here.
578
00:34:08,914 --> 00:34:10,316
>>DAVID: Most of
which we don't know
579
00:34:10,416 --> 00:34:11,583
about, I guess you're saying.
580
00:34:11,683 --> 00:34:12,984
>>GOODE: Right, yeah.
581
00:34:13,085 --> 00:34:14,320
>>DAVID: Because they already
have huge cities built in them.
582
00:34:14,420 --> 00:34:16,722
>>GOODE: It has to do with
the size of the volcano,
583
00:34:16,822 --> 00:34:21,427
the gravity, the barometric
pressure on Mars,
584
00:34:21,527 --> 00:34:25,631
and the way that-- how
come they're so huge.
585
00:34:25,731 --> 00:34:29,067
>>DAVID: So could they be even
like 100 or 200 miles long
586
00:34:29,168 --> 00:34:30,502
from top to bottom?
587
00:34:30,602 --> 00:34:31,970
>>GOODE: I would be speculating.
588
00:34:32,070 --> 00:34:36,375
I didn't see any hard data
on how many meters or yards
589
00:34:36,475 --> 00:34:38,377
or feet they were.
590
00:34:38,477 --> 00:34:40,346
>>DAVID: But given that
some of the cities here
591
00:34:40,446 --> 00:34:42,914
on Earth I guess can probably
hold hundreds of thousands
592
00:34:43,014 --> 00:34:45,651
of people, you're saying
that in these lava tubes,
593
00:34:45,751 --> 00:34:47,052
you could have
millions of people.
594
00:34:47,153 --> 00:34:48,920
>>GOODE: There are
millions of beings
595
00:34:49,020 --> 00:34:50,922
living in these lava tubes.
596
00:34:51,022 --> 00:34:51,590
>>DAVID: Wow.
597
00:34:51,690 --> 00:34:53,225
What are they doing?
598
00:34:53,325 --> 00:34:55,694
>>GOODE: Just living out
their life cycles there.
599
00:34:55,794 --> 00:34:58,397
They have their own
civilization, their own way,
600
00:34:58,497 --> 00:35:00,732
their own societies.
601
00:35:00,832 --> 00:35:02,033
They're very territorial.
602
00:35:02,134 --> 00:35:03,369
>>DAVID: Do they have pop stars?
603
00:35:03,469 --> 00:35:05,337
Is there like an
insect Britney Spears?
604
00:35:05,437 --> 00:35:07,773
[both laugh]
605
00:35:07,873 --> 00:35:11,243
>>GOODE: I don't know
that much about them.
606
00:35:11,343 --> 00:35:15,181
A lot of the people
that have been assigned
607
00:35:15,281 --> 00:35:18,817
to do security details
on the surface of Mars
608
00:35:18,917 --> 00:35:20,286
have interacted with them.
609
00:35:20,386 --> 00:35:22,421
I have not interacted with them.
610
00:35:22,521 --> 00:35:25,357
>>DAVID: So did the Germans get
resistance from them right away
611
00:35:25,457 --> 00:35:26,492
when they first arrived?
612
00:35:26,592 --> 00:35:28,927
>>GOODE: They interacted
with them quite a bit.
613
00:35:29,027 --> 00:35:31,263
>>DAVID: They tried to fight
to get some of these tubes?
614
00:35:31,363 --> 00:35:32,564
>>GOODE: Yes.
615
00:35:32,664 --> 00:35:34,433
Their plan was to go in and
take some of these tubes.
616
00:35:34,533 --> 00:35:35,901
And there were some
battles fought.
617
00:35:36,001 --> 00:35:38,370
And it did not go
well for them at all.
618
00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:43,175
They even had some of their
early bases destroyed.
619
00:35:43,275 --> 00:35:48,146
And they lost
entire early bases.
620
00:35:48,247 --> 00:35:49,681
>>DAVID: With the
personnel, like all
621
00:35:49,781 --> 00:35:50,682
the people were killed?
622
00:35:50,782 --> 00:35:51,583
>>GOODE: Yeah.
623
00:35:51,683 --> 00:35:54,085
And they also chose poorly.
624
00:35:54,186 --> 00:35:59,691
They built some of their
bases towards the equator
625
00:35:59,791 --> 00:36:08,066
and found out that the dust
storms that kick up quite often
626
00:36:08,166 --> 00:36:11,737
are very highly
electrically charged.
627
00:36:11,837 --> 00:36:13,872
Static electricity
builds up in all
628
00:36:13,972 --> 00:36:19,378
of the sand that's blowing
at very high rates of speed.
629
00:36:19,478 --> 00:36:20,579
>>DAVID: That makes sense.
630
00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:25,551
>>GOODE: And the minerals
underneath the planet--
631
00:36:25,651 --> 00:36:30,656
I think I mentioned before,
one side, because of impacts,
632
00:36:30,756 --> 00:36:35,661
caused crystallization
of some of the rock.
633
00:36:35,761 --> 00:36:37,863
>>DAVID: Right, you said
shocked quartz was formed.
634
00:36:37,963 --> 00:36:45,437
>>GOODE: And causing one side
to be kind of an anode, cathode
635
00:36:45,537 --> 00:36:48,640
and anode on each side.
636
00:36:48,740 --> 00:36:51,977
So the surface, especially
around the equator,
637
00:36:52,077 --> 00:36:55,914
will build up an electrical
charge in the ground as well.
638
00:36:56,014 --> 00:36:57,249
>>DAVID: Well, that makes sense.
639
00:36:57,349 --> 00:36:59,585
It's the same principle
where you take certain metals
640
00:36:59,685 --> 00:37:01,853
and you put them under pressure
and you electrify them,
641
00:37:01,953 --> 00:37:03,389
and you make them magnetic.
642
00:37:03,489 --> 00:37:05,424
So this was the whole
side of the planet.
643
00:37:05,524 --> 00:37:09,761
>>GOODE: Well, the problem
when you are building a base
644
00:37:09,861 --> 00:37:13,465
and you have all this static
electricity to where there's
645
00:37:13,565 --> 00:37:20,071
lightning storms going on in the
sand storms-- it was that much
646
00:37:20,171 --> 00:37:22,674
of an electrical field
being created-- well,
647
00:37:22,774 --> 00:37:25,277
it's destroying
their electronics.
648
00:37:25,377 --> 00:37:27,112
>>DAVID: So this is
equivalent of a CME?
649
00:37:27,212 --> 00:37:29,648
It's like some kind of
really powerful EMP pulse
650
00:37:29,748 --> 00:37:30,215
or something?
651
00:37:30,316 --> 00:37:30,916
>>GOODE: Yes.
652
00:37:31,016 --> 00:37:33,519
And these occur often.
653
00:37:33,619 --> 00:37:36,422
>>DAVID: So does that mean
that the equator region is just
654
00:37:36,522 --> 00:37:37,623
no good?
655
00:37:37,723 --> 00:37:41,226
>>GOODE: It's not a good
place to set up a colony.
656
00:37:44,396 --> 00:37:47,799
I'm sure they've overcome
a lot of shielding problems
657
00:37:47,899 --> 00:37:51,036
to create colonies there now.
658
00:37:51,136 --> 00:37:53,439
I know we can fly
through those sand storms
659
00:37:53,539 --> 00:37:55,874
now and not have any
electrical problems.
660
00:37:55,974 --> 00:38:00,979
But back in the day
when the Germans were,
661
00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:08,119
I guess, landing on Plymouth
Rock and forging new territory,
662
00:38:08,219 --> 00:38:11,590
they found out that this
was not a place to be,
663
00:38:11,690 --> 00:38:14,793
especially with the technology
they had at the time.
664
00:38:14,893 --> 00:38:17,596
They were losing all
of their technology.
665
00:38:17,696 --> 00:38:22,300
So they found out that the
closer to the polar regions,
666
00:38:22,401 --> 00:38:28,407
within 20 degrees, I think,
of the north and south pole,
667
00:38:28,507 --> 00:38:31,309
were the best habitable regions.
668
00:38:31,410 --> 00:38:36,515
And it also happened to be
where a lot of other groups
669
00:38:36,615 --> 00:38:38,016
had been setting up bases.
670
00:38:38,116 --> 00:38:43,822
So they had to find an area
where they could claim and set
671
00:38:43,922 --> 00:38:52,431
up a base, and everyone on
Mars, just like people associate
672
00:38:52,531 --> 00:38:59,438
Mars with war, all of the beings
there are very territorial,
673
00:38:59,538 --> 00:39:01,306
which I guess you
could say is warlike.
674
00:39:01,407 --> 00:39:04,676
But it's part of their culture
to be very territorial.
675
00:39:04,776 --> 00:39:08,346
It's like putting too
many fish in a fish tank.
676
00:39:08,447 --> 00:39:12,183
And they had to stake out
their ground and defend it.
677
00:39:12,283 --> 00:39:18,056
And it took quite a bit of
doing for them to do so.
678
00:39:18,156 --> 00:39:22,561
And they weren't able to be
fully successful until much
679
00:39:22,661 --> 00:39:28,166
later into the later '50s
when they were working
680
00:39:28,266 --> 00:39:33,539
with the US and the
military-industrial complex
681
00:39:33,639 --> 00:39:39,411
and had all of the resources of
the United States behind them.
682
00:39:39,511 --> 00:39:42,047
And then they really
were able to start
683
00:39:42,147 --> 00:39:45,984
building out and
becoming more of a force
684
00:39:46,084 --> 00:39:50,188
on Mars to push back some
of these other groups,
685
00:39:50,288 --> 00:39:54,793
just like Americans did
the Native Americans.
686
00:39:54,893 --> 00:39:56,595
They pushed back other
groups and took over.
687
00:39:56,695 --> 00:39:58,129
>>DAVID: Manifest Destiny.
688
00:39:58,229 --> 00:40:02,668
So during a typical Earth year,
the Earth is tilted to the sun,
689
00:40:02,768 --> 00:40:04,770
and we're going to
have seasons where
690
00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:06,605
it's going to get really
cold or really hot
691
00:40:06,705 --> 00:40:09,875
depending on where you
are, and that changes.
692
00:40:09,975 --> 00:40:12,978
If you're building
near a polar region,
693
00:40:13,078 --> 00:40:17,015
and you're in Mars winter,
how is that survivable
694
00:40:17,115 --> 00:40:20,351
for human life, given that Mars
is farther away from the sun,
695
00:40:20,452 --> 00:40:22,220
would therefore be
colder based on what we
696
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,290
know from NASA studies of Mars?
697
00:40:25,390 --> 00:40:27,292
>>GOODE: It's much easier
to deal with the cold.
698
00:40:30,361 --> 00:40:36,234
When you have cold, you're
going to have frozen water
699
00:40:36,334 --> 00:40:39,137
in the form of ice.
700
00:40:39,237 --> 00:40:40,972
It's a lot easier to
deal with the cold
701
00:40:41,072 --> 00:40:44,710
than it is to deal
with living in a desert
702
00:40:44,810 --> 00:40:48,780
to where you have electrical
storms all the time,
703
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,485
and plus the atmosphere
is a little bit more
704
00:40:53,585 --> 00:40:57,589
hospitable in those
regions, even if it's cold,
705
00:40:57,689 --> 00:40:58,524
I mean breathing-wise.
706
00:41:02,260 --> 00:41:07,432
Even though it's a very
small oxygen content level,
707
00:41:07,533 --> 00:41:11,970
there's still more and in
the north and southern poles.
708
00:41:12,070 --> 00:41:13,038
>>DAVID: OK.
709
00:41:13,138 --> 00:41:15,040
So are you saying that
these German bases
710
00:41:15,140 --> 00:41:17,208
were built in what
we would consider
711
00:41:17,308 --> 00:41:19,177
an arctic-looking region?
712
00:41:19,277 --> 00:41:20,912
>>GOODE: Not in the arctic.
713
00:41:21,012 --> 00:41:26,051
Usually within-- we would
call it the 20th parallel.
714
00:41:26,151 --> 00:41:28,486
>>DAVID: Were there
any critters on Mars
715
00:41:28,587 --> 00:41:30,121
that they could hunt
and eat for food?
716
00:41:30,221 --> 00:41:32,323
Is there any life there?
717
00:41:32,423 --> 00:41:33,759
>>GOODE: Yeah,
there is life there.
718
00:41:33,859 --> 00:41:38,730
I haven't heard or read too
much about them hunting.
719
00:41:38,830 --> 00:41:44,970
I'm sure, as rough as things
got for the original Mars colony
720
00:41:45,070 --> 00:41:49,675
people, I'm sure
they did eat what
721
00:41:49,775 --> 00:41:53,612
they could find on the surface.
722
00:41:53,712 --> 00:41:56,147
I just don't recall
reading anything
723
00:41:56,247 --> 00:42:02,220
about them having barbecues
of Martian critters.
724
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,955
>>DAVID: What different
types of critters
725
00:42:04,055 --> 00:42:06,157
did they find when
they got there?
726
00:42:06,257 --> 00:42:08,326
Do you have to dig down,
or are they on the surface?
727
00:42:08,426 --> 00:42:09,628
Do they fly?
728
00:42:09,728 --> 00:42:14,566
>>GOODE: Most of them are
burrowing-type animal life,
729
00:42:14,666 --> 00:42:21,306
even this weird little-- there's
this little bat-bird-like
730
00:42:21,406 --> 00:42:21,873
thing.
731
00:42:21,973 --> 00:42:24,009
They dug holes.
732
00:42:24,109 --> 00:42:29,447
When we were building
this one outpost,
733
00:42:29,547 --> 00:42:31,983
we were seeing
these little holes.
734
00:42:32,083 --> 00:42:40,125
And around dusk, they would fly
out, and each flap of the wing,
735
00:42:40,225 --> 00:42:42,728
you'd hear kind of a
cheep, cheep, cheep,
736
00:42:42,828 --> 00:42:46,531
cheep, as they would fly out.
737
00:42:46,632 --> 00:42:49,334
What they ate, where
they went, I don't know.
738
00:42:49,434 --> 00:42:53,204
And then they would return
and go back into their hole.
739
00:42:53,304 --> 00:42:54,572
>>DAVID: What did
they look like?
740
00:42:54,673 --> 00:42:55,641
What was their color?
741
00:42:55,741 --> 00:42:58,476
>>GOODE: They were
dark, like black,
742
00:42:58,576 --> 00:43:03,481
and they looked real rough,
leathery, and almost like they
743
00:43:03,581 --> 00:43:06,184
had almost armor on them.
744
00:43:06,284 --> 00:43:07,653
>>DAVID: I would
think for anything
745
00:43:07,753 --> 00:43:10,889
to have evolved to live on
such an inhospitable planet,
746
00:43:10,989 --> 00:43:13,291
that it would all
probably have this type
747
00:43:13,391 --> 00:43:16,461
of armoring and real
ruggedness to it.
748
00:43:16,561 --> 00:43:18,897
>>GOODE: It was just interesting
to some of the scientists
749
00:43:18,997 --> 00:43:21,566
that something so
small with wings
750
00:43:21,667 --> 00:43:28,406
could fly in such an atmosphere.
751
00:43:28,506 --> 00:43:29,975
They didn't think
that the atmosphere
752
00:43:30,075 --> 00:43:31,576
was dense enough for them to--
753
00:43:31,677 --> 00:43:33,712
>>DAVID: To provide lift
right for the wings, yeah.
754
00:43:33,812 --> 00:43:34,512
>>GOODE: Right.
755
00:43:34,612 --> 00:43:35,613
>>DAVID: How small is small?
756
00:43:35,714 --> 00:43:36,447
What was the size?
757
00:43:36,547 --> 00:43:37,816
>>GOODE: I mean,
they were small.
758
00:43:37,916 --> 00:43:42,888
I mean, like small, like the
size of some of the birds
759
00:43:42,988 --> 00:43:44,455
that you see flying around here.
760
00:43:44,555 --> 00:43:45,857
>>DAVID: Right.
761
00:43:45,957 --> 00:43:48,226
How similar did it
look to a bat on Earth?
762
00:43:48,326 --> 00:43:50,628
>>GOODE: The texture
looked like a bat,
763
00:43:50,729 --> 00:43:56,101
like the wings looked like skin.
764
00:43:56,201 --> 00:44:03,008
But the head and the beak
looked more birdlike.
765
00:44:03,108 --> 00:44:04,409
>>DAVID: Oh, it had a beak.
766
00:44:04,509 --> 00:44:06,011
>>GOODE: Yeah.
767
00:44:06,111 --> 00:44:07,478
>>DAVID: Well, we
could probably go
768
00:44:07,578 --> 00:44:10,716
through the taxonomy of a whole
bunch of different critters.
769
00:44:10,816 --> 00:44:12,784
>>GOODE: And I didn't
see a whole lot.
770
00:44:12,884 --> 00:44:15,353
Personally, I only saw
a couple of things.
771
00:44:15,453 --> 00:44:18,724
I saw plant life and those
kinds of things myself.
772
00:44:18,824 --> 00:44:19,958
>>DAVID: You did mention that.
773
00:44:20,058 --> 00:44:22,160
We got the plants in.
774
00:44:22,260 --> 00:44:25,731
>>GOODE: And I saw that
was catalogued early
775
00:44:25,831 --> 00:44:26,932
by the Germans.
776
00:44:27,032 --> 00:44:30,435
They catalogued a
lot of different life
777
00:44:30,535 --> 00:44:33,104
that popped up in
the smart glass pads.
778
00:44:33,204 --> 00:44:34,706
>>DAVID: Were there
things that looked
779
00:44:34,806 --> 00:44:36,808
like little crabs or spiders?
780
00:44:36,908 --> 00:44:41,279
>>GOODE: There
were large spiders.
781
00:44:41,379 --> 00:44:42,547
>>DAVID: How large?
782
00:44:42,647 --> 00:44:46,384
>>GOODE: Very large, like
half the size of a person.
783
00:44:49,054 --> 00:44:51,356
>>DAVID: My insider Jacob
described cooking and eating
784
00:44:51,456 --> 00:44:52,290
those.
785
00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:55,093
And he said, it
tastes like crab.
786
00:44:55,193 --> 00:44:58,496
I don't know why you'd want to.
787
00:44:58,596 --> 00:45:03,201
Were there things like worms
that dig through the soil
788
00:45:03,301 --> 00:45:05,403
or like millipede,
centipede type life?
789
00:45:05,503 --> 00:45:10,876
>>GOODE: Well, I saw
reported a large, almost
790
00:45:10,976 --> 00:45:14,813
like silkworm-looking
worms that were burrowing
791
00:45:14,913 --> 00:45:19,650
and would also come out
and lay in the sun at times
792
00:45:19,751 --> 00:45:22,053
and then go back and burrow.
793
00:45:22,153 --> 00:45:23,621
>>DAVID: Yeah, the
main life that I
794
00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:25,356
heard about from two
other insiders who
795
00:45:25,456 --> 00:45:27,759
claim to have been on
Mars was these worms
796
00:45:27,859 --> 00:45:31,396
that were very large, that
would actually eat metal.
797
00:45:31,496 --> 00:45:33,564
And they would attach
themselves to the side of some
798
00:45:33,664 --> 00:45:35,266
of these bases, and
they'd have to go out
799
00:45:35,366 --> 00:45:37,402
with these harpoon-type
guns and shoot them.
800
00:45:37,502 --> 00:45:38,837
But they weren't
very fast-moving,
801
00:45:38,937 --> 00:45:41,172
so it really didn't
pose any threat to you.
802
00:45:41,272 --> 00:45:43,241
It was a very boring
job, apparently.
803
00:45:43,341 --> 00:45:44,876
>>GOODE: Yeah
these looked almost
804
00:45:44,976 --> 00:45:54,986
like larva-type, big,
bloated worm things
805
00:45:55,086 --> 00:45:56,254
that would burrow underground.
806
00:45:56,354 --> 00:45:58,656
>>DAVID: Were there
any indigenous life
807
00:45:58,756 --> 00:46:01,426
forms that had evolved
on Mars and had actually
808
00:46:01,526 --> 00:46:03,261
always been there?
809
00:46:03,361 --> 00:46:07,532
>>GOODE: There is one group that
was very elusive that I never
810
00:46:07,632 --> 00:46:14,705
saw but read about that were
human-like that stayed in caves
811
00:46:14,806 --> 00:46:23,148
and always wore robes
and were very elusive
812
00:46:23,248 --> 00:46:25,183
and stayed away from everybody.
813
00:46:25,283 --> 00:46:27,618
>>DAVID: Yeah, I heard about
an indigenous population
814
00:46:27,718 --> 00:46:30,288
from some others as well.
815
00:46:30,388 --> 00:46:33,124
Do you know about their
height or their appearance?
816
00:46:33,224 --> 00:46:37,195
>>GOODE: This sounds too
much like out of a movie,
817
00:46:37,295 --> 00:46:44,602
but supposedly looked very much
like us but are very reddish.
818
00:46:44,702 --> 00:46:50,775
And they claim to be
indigenous from Mars.
819
00:46:50,876 --> 00:46:52,878
Whether that's true
or not, I don't know.
820
00:46:52,978 --> 00:46:54,679
>>DAVID: There's no
way to know, yeah.
821
00:46:54,779 --> 00:46:57,615
>>GOODE: But there
was very little
822
00:46:57,715 --> 00:47:01,853
in the glass pad about them.
823
00:47:01,953 --> 00:47:03,754
They were very elusive.
824
00:47:03,855 --> 00:47:09,027
And whenever the space program
would come in and build
825
00:47:09,127 --> 00:47:14,632
a new colony that was too close
to one of their civilizations,
826
00:47:14,732 --> 00:47:18,169
they would move
their entire groups.
827
00:47:18,269 --> 00:47:19,270
>>DAVID: Really?
828
00:47:19,370 --> 00:47:20,638
>>GOODE: Yeah, they
stayed completely away.
829
00:47:20,738 --> 00:47:22,440
>>DAVID: They didn't
take offensive action?
830
00:47:22,540 --> 00:47:24,142
>>GOODE: No.
831
00:47:24,242 --> 00:47:29,147
From what I could tell,
they were very non-Martian,
832
00:47:29,247 --> 00:47:31,049
very peaceful.
833
00:47:31,149 --> 00:47:36,154
They wanted to stay completely
away from all other life forms.
834
00:47:36,254 --> 00:47:37,388
>>DAVID: All right.
835
00:47:37,488 --> 00:47:40,858
So that is quite a fascinating
body of information.
836
00:47:40,959 --> 00:47:42,894
We're going to be coming
back next time with much
837
00:47:42,994 --> 00:47:46,797
more on Mars here on "Cosmic
Disclosure" because you
838
00:47:46,898 --> 00:47:48,233
need to know.
839
00:47:48,333 --> 00:47:52,137
I'm your host, David Wilcock,
and I thank you for watching.
840
00:47:52,237 --> 00:47:53,671
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