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These are the user uploaded subtitles that are being translated: 1 00:00:05,273 --> 00:00:09,577 [theme music] 2 00:00:16,016 --> 00:00:17,918 >>DAVID WILCOCK: Welcome to "Cosmic Disclosure." 3 00:00:18,018 --> 00:00:19,820 I'm your host, David Wilcock. 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:23,391 And in this episode, we're going to be getting into the Germans 5 00:00:23,491 --> 00:00:25,359 traveling to Mars. 6 00:00:25,459 --> 00:00:28,129 However, in between episodes, it occurred to me 7 00:00:28,229 --> 00:00:31,832 that there are some really important unanswered questions. 8 00:00:31,932 --> 00:00:36,204 One of these questions is that we have artifacts on the moon, 9 00:00:36,304 --> 00:00:38,572 and there are also artifacts on Mars. 10 00:00:38,672 --> 00:00:41,775 So we're going to get into the relationship 11 00:00:41,875 --> 00:00:45,413 between these ancient artifacts on the moon and on Mars, 12 00:00:45,513 --> 00:00:50,784 since the Germans ultimately found them on both spheres. 13 00:00:50,884 --> 00:00:52,886 This will help us to build our way 14 00:00:52,986 --> 00:00:57,625 into understanding what the Germans actually did on Mars. 15 00:00:57,725 --> 00:01:00,928 So all of that will be covered in this one episode. 16 00:01:01,028 --> 00:01:03,331 So, Corey, I'm really excited to get into this, and thanks 17 00:01:03,431 --> 00:01:04,265 for being on the show. 18 00:01:04,365 --> 00:01:05,233 >>COREY GOODE: Thank you. 19 00:01:05,333 --> 00:01:06,367 >>DAVID: So, Corey, we were talking 20 00:01:06,467 --> 00:01:08,436 about the German development of the moon 21 00:01:08,536 --> 00:01:10,338 in the previous episode. 22 00:01:10,438 --> 00:01:16,510 How do you feel that this was accomplished in light 23 00:01:16,610 --> 00:01:18,546 of the Ancient Builder race? 24 00:01:18,646 --> 00:01:22,216 Were there Ancient Builder race ruins on the moon 25 00:01:22,316 --> 00:01:23,751 that they were able to find when they 26 00:01:23,851 --> 00:01:29,323 were doing that research when they first got there? 27 00:01:29,423 --> 00:01:30,324 >>GOODE: Yes. 28 00:01:30,424 --> 00:01:34,462 There are Ancient Builder race ruins 29 00:01:34,562 --> 00:01:40,434 all over the entire solar system and underneath the surface 30 00:01:40,534 --> 00:01:41,802 of our planet. 31 00:01:41,902 --> 00:01:44,172 >>DAVID: What specific Ancient Builder race ruins 32 00:01:44,272 --> 00:01:45,473 did they find on the moon? 33 00:01:45,573 --> 00:01:47,775 >>GOODE: I think some of the most significant ones 34 00:01:47,875 --> 00:01:52,079 that you would be interested in, and a lot of others, 35 00:01:52,180 --> 00:01:57,951 are some of the ancient buildings that 36 00:01:58,051 --> 00:02:06,093 were obviously built for a race of very tall beings, 37 00:02:06,194 --> 00:02:14,502 unless they were beings that just liked a lot of headroom 38 00:02:14,602 --> 00:02:18,472 and really tall arches and doorways. 39 00:02:18,572 --> 00:02:19,873 >>DAVID: When you say really tall, 40 00:02:19,973 --> 00:02:23,043 what are we talking in feet, like what was the estimated 41 00:02:23,143 --> 00:02:24,245 height of these people? 42 00:02:24,345 --> 00:02:30,418 >>GOODE: Some of the stone seats and the doorways, 43 00:02:30,518 --> 00:02:35,356 we're talking upwards 60, 70, 80 feet. 44 00:02:35,456 --> 00:02:37,491 >>DAVID: Beings 60, 70, 80 feet tall? 45 00:02:37,591 --> 00:02:38,426 >>GOODE: Tall. 46 00:02:38,526 --> 00:02:39,560 >>DAVID: When you say stone seats, 47 00:02:39,660 --> 00:02:40,928 what would they look like? 48 00:02:41,028 --> 00:02:42,630 Would there be anything that we could see 49 00:02:42,730 --> 00:02:44,265 on Earth that would be similar? 50 00:02:44,365 --> 00:02:49,903 >>GOODE: They called them thrones, but they were not. 51 00:02:52,573 --> 00:02:56,176 There were lines of seatings along walls 52 00:02:56,277 --> 00:03:00,314 that were facing outward, that I guess 53 00:03:00,414 --> 00:03:06,354 the closest that we would see in an older castle 54 00:03:06,454 --> 00:03:12,760 would be like a throne room with thrones against a wall. 55 00:03:12,860 --> 00:03:15,263 >>DAVID: Were these seats carved just 56 00:03:15,363 --> 00:03:17,465 as very utilitarian and basic? 57 00:03:17,565 --> 00:03:22,069 Or did they have sort of ornate designs to them? 58 00:03:22,169 --> 00:03:24,137 What was the aesthetic of the seats? 59 00:03:24,238 --> 00:03:33,714 >>GOODE: They at one time had writing or emblems on them 60 00:03:33,814 --> 00:03:39,620 and symbols on them, but someone for some reason 61 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:47,160 had sandblasted or removed them, same with any other area 62 00:03:47,261 --> 00:03:50,631 in these buildings and structures that 63 00:03:50,731 --> 00:03:56,970 seemed to have had any type of indication of writing 64 00:03:57,070 --> 00:04:02,510 characters or images. 65 00:04:02,610 --> 00:04:07,548 They were erased, as if-- I guess 66 00:04:07,648 --> 00:04:12,520 they say the victor always writes the history. 67 00:04:12,620 --> 00:04:17,558 Well, maybe other ET groups moved in millennia later 68 00:04:17,658 --> 00:04:21,862 and decided, we want to write the history, 69 00:04:21,962 --> 00:04:25,466 we want to be known as the gods. 70 00:04:25,566 --> 00:04:30,504 So they erased what was written. 71 00:04:30,604 --> 00:04:32,806 >>DAVID: Did these thrones just appear 72 00:04:32,906 --> 00:04:34,308 etched into the side of a mountain, 73 00:04:34,408 --> 00:04:36,910 like we might see with Mount Rushmore on Earth? 74 00:04:37,010 --> 00:04:39,580 Or were they inside rooms of some kind? 75 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,081 >>GOODE: They were inside rooms. 76 00:04:41,181 --> 00:04:44,585 And this was very high tech. 77 00:04:44,685 --> 00:04:49,757 It was obviously manipulated matter, technologically 78 00:04:49,857 --> 00:04:51,091 manipulated matter. 79 00:04:51,191 --> 00:04:54,895 >>DAVID: So describe for us-- how would you find a room? 80 00:04:54,995 --> 00:04:58,532 Do you see like a dome, and then you go into the dome? 81 00:04:58,632 --> 00:05:00,334 Is it built into the side of a mountain? 82 00:05:00,434 --> 00:05:02,336 Is it underground? 83 00:05:02,436 --> 00:05:04,071 Where do you actually see these rooms? 84 00:05:04,171 --> 00:05:06,006 How do you get into a room? 85 00:05:06,106 --> 00:05:11,044 >>GOODE: These are mostly covered structures now 86 00:05:11,144 --> 00:05:17,751 by moon dust and meteors that have hit and left remnants. 87 00:05:17,851 --> 00:05:20,721 They've been there a long time. 88 00:05:20,821 --> 00:05:26,026 But there would have to be a certain amount dug out. 89 00:05:26,126 --> 00:05:30,898 Maybe 10% would be above the surface. 90 00:05:30,998 --> 00:05:36,970 And even that would have to be uncovered. 91 00:05:37,070 --> 00:05:38,972 And the rest would have to be dug out, 92 00:05:39,072 --> 00:05:45,679 and then they would go in and excavate and check out 93 00:05:45,779 --> 00:05:47,848 the interiors. 94 00:05:47,948 --> 00:05:50,718 >>DAVID: Were these structures on both the Earth-facing 95 00:05:50,818 --> 00:05:52,252 and the dark side of the moon? 96 00:05:52,352 --> 00:05:53,387 >>GOODE: All over. 97 00:05:53,487 --> 00:05:57,691 >>DAVID: And so is the building often square? 98 00:05:57,791 --> 00:06:00,628 Or is it more of a circular type of shape? 99 00:06:00,728 --> 00:06:04,698 What was the shape "clue" that this was a site and not 100 00:06:04,798 --> 00:06:07,801 just another irregularity in the moon's surface? 101 00:06:07,901 --> 00:06:10,303 >>GOODE: These buildings were found in all different shapes, 102 00:06:10,404 --> 00:06:13,006 all different conditions, and made out 103 00:06:13,106 --> 00:06:16,009 of different types of materials, including 104 00:06:16,109 --> 00:06:21,114 the before-discussed transparent alloy aluminum 105 00:06:21,214 --> 00:06:25,486 material, or parts of the buildings 106 00:06:25,586 --> 00:06:26,920 were made out of that material. 107 00:06:27,020 --> 00:06:28,422 >>DAVID: So some of these buildings, 108 00:06:28,522 --> 00:06:30,591 the walls you could actually see right through them 109 00:06:30,691 --> 00:06:33,193 once you uncovered them from the lunar regolith? 110 00:06:33,293 --> 00:06:34,495 >>GOODE: Right. 111 00:06:34,595 --> 00:06:35,629 >>DAVID: Wow. 112 00:06:35,729 --> 00:06:37,731 Now, Richard Hoagland has talked extensively 113 00:06:37,831 --> 00:06:40,568 about what he believes to be glass domes that 114 00:06:40,668 --> 00:06:43,537 were on the moon and the idea that it could be pressurized 115 00:06:43,637 --> 00:06:47,340 inside, and you could have plants and trees in there. 116 00:06:47,441 --> 00:06:49,109 Did you encounter any evidence that there 117 00:06:49,209 --> 00:06:52,646 were, in fact, glass domes? 118 00:06:52,746 --> 00:06:54,882 >>GOODE: There are all sorts of glass structures 119 00:06:54,982 --> 00:06:59,219 that are mainly destroyed. 120 00:06:59,319 --> 00:07:00,420 >>DAVID: Including domes? 121 00:07:00,521 --> 00:07:04,492 >>GOODE: Including domes and towers. 122 00:07:04,592 --> 00:07:07,928 >>DAVID: And when you say destroyed, by who? 123 00:07:08,028 --> 00:07:12,766 >>GOODE: It may be by what, by a cataclysm. 124 00:07:12,866 --> 00:07:16,904 A lot of stuff is left on the moon 125 00:07:17,004 --> 00:07:20,240 as a reminder of a great war. 126 00:07:20,340 --> 00:07:23,711 There is quite a bit of other material and items 127 00:07:23,811 --> 00:07:30,250 that are left that come from much longer ago. 128 00:07:30,350 --> 00:07:34,855 The oceans of time we're talking about here are mind-boggling. 129 00:07:34,955 --> 00:07:39,493 And the number of different groups and races 130 00:07:39,593 --> 00:07:48,736 that have contributed to the trinkets and the buildings that 131 00:07:48,836 --> 00:07:57,545 are on the surface is just as mind-boggling. 132 00:07:57,645 --> 00:08:00,147 >>DAVID: Let's talk about the parallels 133 00:08:00,247 --> 00:08:03,884 between whatever was found on the moon 134 00:08:03,984 --> 00:08:05,653 and whatever was found on Mars. 135 00:08:05,753 --> 00:08:08,255 Because the German scientists, let's say-- because they're not 136 00:08:08,355 --> 00:08:13,026 all Nazis-- when they went to Mars, 137 00:08:13,126 --> 00:08:16,897 did they find similar structures as what we saw on the moon? 138 00:08:16,997 --> 00:08:18,465 >>GOODE: Yes. 139 00:08:18,566 --> 00:08:23,671 These Ancient Builder races and other races 140 00:08:23,771 --> 00:08:27,407 that have come into our solar system 141 00:08:27,507 --> 00:08:33,480 through the ebb and flow of time and fought for control 142 00:08:33,581 --> 00:08:38,752 over the solar system, controlled, lost control, 143 00:08:38,852 --> 00:08:45,893 come back millennia later-- this has gone on for millennia-- 144 00:08:45,993 --> 00:08:50,598 their structures have been found all over 145 00:08:50,698 --> 00:08:53,601 the entire solar system. 146 00:08:53,701 --> 00:08:58,972 Our solar system is littered with ancient, ancient 147 00:08:59,072 --> 00:09:01,341 archaeological sites. 148 00:09:01,441 --> 00:09:04,377 >>DAVID: You mentioned before that there's a big portal that 149 00:09:04,477 --> 00:09:05,512 goes to other galaxies. 150 00:09:05,613 --> 00:09:07,314 It's right outside our solar system. 151 00:09:07,414 --> 00:09:09,817 >>GOODE: There's a portal system that 152 00:09:09,917 --> 00:09:17,224 is a part of the cosmic web, and our solar system 153 00:09:17,324 --> 00:09:21,528 is in a very coveted area. 154 00:09:21,629 --> 00:09:25,699 And yes, that portal system spreads out 155 00:09:25,799 --> 00:09:29,637 not only to other galaxies but other star systems 156 00:09:29,737 --> 00:09:32,039 within our own galaxy. 157 00:09:32,139 --> 00:09:34,742 >>DAVID: So we're in like a real high-rent district. 158 00:09:34,842 --> 00:09:36,076 >>GOODE: Yes. 159 00:09:36,176 --> 00:09:38,211 >>DAVID: Would you say, then, that our solar system has 160 00:09:38,311 --> 00:09:42,650 a lot more colonization and history than most civilizations 161 00:09:42,750 --> 00:09:44,852 that would be in more of a country area, 162 00:09:44,952 --> 00:09:48,288 as opposed to an urbanized district like this? 163 00:09:48,388 --> 00:09:50,223 >>GOODE: I've been told that we're basically 164 00:09:50,323 --> 00:09:53,560 an oasis on a cosmic silk road. 165 00:09:53,661 --> 00:09:56,129 >>DAVID: NASA came out recently and suggested 166 00:09:56,229 --> 00:09:59,767 that Mars at one point had a 1 and 1/2 mile deep ocean that 167 00:09:59,867 --> 00:10:01,334 covered at least half of its surface 168 00:10:01,434 --> 00:10:02,703 like the northern hemisphere. 169 00:10:02,803 --> 00:10:04,772 That's NASA saying that. 170 00:10:04,872 --> 00:10:06,774 Why do you think they would say that? 171 00:10:06,874 --> 00:10:09,176 >>GOODE: I think we're getting to a point 172 00:10:09,276 --> 00:10:15,415 in human consciousness to where it's becoming pretty ridiculous 173 00:10:15,515 --> 00:10:19,953 to try to hide what's in front of our face 174 00:10:20,053 --> 00:10:21,254 when we look at Mars. 175 00:10:24,357 --> 00:10:28,561 Plenty of people have taken satellite views of Earth, 176 00:10:28,662 --> 00:10:33,734 satellite images of Earth, satellite images of Mars, 177 00:10:33,834 --> 00:10:39,907 put them side by side and geologically proven and shown 178 00:10:40,007 --> 00:10:46,446 that they've had the same type of activity on them. 179 00:10:46,546 --> 00:10:49,549 >>DAVID: So did you encounter information 180 00:10:49,649 --> 00:10:52,820 suggesting that Mars was more Earth-like at one time? 181 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:54,988 >>GOODE: Yes. 182 00:10:55,088 --> 00:10:58,425 >>DAVID: You had mentioned before that the asteroid belt 183 00:10:58,525 --> 00:11:02,129 was a destroyed planet. 184 00:11:02,229 --> 00:11:04,297 Hoagland and others have done work 185 00:11:04,397 --> 00:11:08,468 suggesting that Mars was originally 186 00:11:08,568 --> 00:11:10,537 a moon of this planet. 187 00:11:10,637 --> 00:11:12,405 Did you encounter anything like that? 188 00:11:12,505 --> 00:11:14,975 >>GOODE: According to the smart glass pad, 189 00:11:15,075 --> 00:11:20,447 that was the intelligence-- that Mars was at one time 190 00:11:20,547 --> 00:11:27,287 a satellite of a super Earth that existed now 191 00:11:27,387 --> 00:11:31,258 where we have an asteroid belt. 192 00:11:31,358 --> 00:11:34,527 >>DAVID: Was Mars also a watery planet with oceans as well 193 00:11:34,627 --> 00:11:35,829 at that time? 194 00:11:35,929 --> 00:11:40,133 >>GOODE: It had oceans and a very thick atmosphere that 195 00:11:40,233 --> 00:11:49,076 was blown off in the same event that changed its current orbit 196 00:11:49,176 --> 00:11:54,414 and created the asteroid belt. 197 00:11:54,514 --> 00:12:00,020 >>DAVID: When you look at the work of certain astronomers 198 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:04,792 such as Dr. Thomas Van Flandern, who have studied what he called 199 00:12:04,892 --> 00:12:10,964 the Exploding Planet Hypothesis, or EPH, we see half of Mars 200 00:12:11,064 --> 00:12:13,466 is totally covered with craters. 201 00:12:13,566 --> 00:12:16,103 The other half is really quite smooth. 202 00:12:16,203 --> 00:12:20,240 So do you think that that was asteroids from the planet 203 00:12:20,340 --> 00:12:21,942 exploding, hitting Mars? 204 00:12:22,042 --> 00:12:23,944 Did you encounter anything suggesting 205 00:12:24,044 --> 00:12:24,845 that's what happened? 206 00:12:24,945 --> 00:12:26,046 >>GOODE: Yes. 207 00:12:26,146 --> 00:12:28,581 And we can go into this in quite a bit of detail. 208 00:12:28,681 --> 00:12:30,417 There was a lot. 209 00:12:30,517 --> 00:12:40,027 The surface of Mars, half of it, has heavy shocked quartz 210 00:12:40,127 --> 00:12:42,762 and deposits. 211 00:12:42,863 --> 00:12:48,368 And half of Mars is positively charged. 212 00:12:48,468 --> 00:12:51,338 The other half is negatively charged. 213 00:12:51,438 --> 00:12:59,712 And because of what had happened to it in this event, 214 00:12:59,813 --> 00:13:03,650 it is now a basically giant capacitor. 215 00:13:03,750 --> 00:13:04,717 >>DAVID: Hmm. 216 00:13:04,818 --> 00:13:07,587 So we have this whole, huge planet that's 217 00:13:07,687 --> 00:13:09,489 a habitable world with oceans. 218 00:13:09,589 --> 00:13:11,458 And then there is a moon around it 219 00:13:11,558 --> 00:13:17,164 that became Mars, as we think of it, that was also habitable. 220 00:13:17,264 --> 00:13:18,832 Did you encounter any information 221 00:13:18,932 --> 00:13:21,801 suggesting that there were opposing civilizations 222 00:13:21,902 --> 00:13:23,003 on each of these spheres? 223 00:13:23,103 --> 00:13:25,238 Or was it all part of one greater civilization? 224 00:13:25,338 --> 00:13:27,307 Do we know that? 225 00:13:27,407 --> 00:13:31,044 >>GOODE: I saw the nuts and bolts, scientific information. 226 00:13:31,144 --> 00:13:34,181 That's where we start getting into the secret Earth 227 00:13:34,281 --> 00:13:37,150 government syndicate, or Illuminati, 228 00:13:37,250 --> 00:13:43,623 religious ideas about all these ideas about what happened. 229 00:13:43,723 --> 00:13:46,326 They've created all kinds of myths and ideas 230 00:13:46,426 --> 00:13:49,296 about how it happened and what happened, 231 00:13:49,396 --> 00:13:54,167 and they believe it as fervently as any other person 232 00:13:54,267 --> 00:13:56,003 believes their religion. 233 00:13:56,103 --> 00:13:58,505 >>DAVID: Now, you said a little earlier that these buildings 234 00:13:58,605 --> 00:14:00,640 on the moon, we were talking about thrones 235 00:14:00,740 --> 00:14:03,610 that you found on the moon with buildings, different types that 236 00:14:03,710 --> 00:14:05,345 were buried in the ground, and you 237 00:14:05,445 --> 00:14:08,348 said that there was some kind of effort to wipe off 238 00:14:08,448 --> 00:14:11,851 the writing and the insignias on them. 239 00:14:11,952 --> 00:14:15,956 Do we find similar structures like that on Mars? 240 00:14:16,056 --> 00:14:18,158 >>GOODE: Yes, all over the solar system, and they've 241 00:14:18,258 --> 00:14:21,128 all been treated in the same manner. 242 00:14:21,228 --> 00:14:22,695 >>DAVID: Did these structures appear 243 00:14:22,795 --> 00:14:24,898 to have been built when Mars still 244 00:14:24,998 --> 00:14:27,667 had oceans before it got this blast 245 00:14:27,767 --> 00:14:29,036 from the planet exploding? 246 00:14:29,136 --> 00:14:31,871 >>GOODE: I am going off of memory here, 247 00:14:31,972 --> 00:14:34,407 and I don't want to get into speculation, 248 00:14:34,507 --> 00:14:38,111 but that seems right. 249 00:14:38,211 --> 00:14:41,714 >>DAVID: How much architecture is on Mars? 250 00:14:41,814 --> 00:14:45,152 How much stuff is there to find that shows that there was 251 00:14:45,252 --> 00:14:47,020 an advanced civilization there? 252 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:51,091 >>GOODE: Most of it is either underground or really 253 00:14:51,191 --> 00:14:52,825 destroyed. 254 00:14:52,926 --> 00:14:57,497 The surface of Mars went through such a huge catastrophe. 255 00:15:01,168 --> 00:15:09,376 It looks like a shockwave went around and around the planet. 256 00:15:09,476 --> 00:15:11,844 The geology is all screwed up. 257 00:15:11,945 --> 00:15:15,215 It's just a big mess. 258 00:15:15,315 --> 00:15:16,816 >>DAVID: Well, let's talk specifically 259 00:15:16,916 --> 00:15:19,819 now about Cydonia, which is the area that Richard 260 00:15:19,919 --> 00:15:22,189 Hoagland talked about with the face 261 00:15:22,289 --> 00:15:25,425 and what appears to be a five-sided pyramid nearby. 262 00:15:25,525 --> 00:15:26,759 >>GOODE: I saw the pyramids. 263 00:15:26,859 --> 00:15:28,528 >>DAVID: What do mean you saw the pyramids? 264 00:15:28,628 --> 00:15:31,064 >>GOODE: I saw five-sided pyramids. 265 00:15:31,164 --> 00:15:32,699 I saw pyramids-- 266 00:15:32,799 --> 00:15:34,567 >>DAVID: But we've all seen pictures of that. 267 00:15:34,667 --> 00:15:37,337 >>GOODE: I have flown over and saw the pyramids-- 268 00:15:37,437 --> 00:15:38,738 >>DAVID: Really? 269 00:15:38,838 --> 00:15:48,181 >>GOODE: --that were partially buried with like mud or sludge. 270 00:15:48,281 --> 00:15:52,852 Either I did not fly over the area where the face was, 271 00:15:52,952 --> 00:15:54,254 or I didn't see it. 272 00:15:54,354 --> 00:15:56,723 I did not see a face. 273 00:15:56,823 --> 00:15:59,359 >>DAVID: Are you seeing parts of the pyramids that still look 274 00:15:59,459 --> 00:16:03,196 like a stone-carved surface? 275 00:16:03,296 --> 00:16:05,198 Or was it all covered in some degree of debris? 276 00:16:08,701 --> 00:16:11,171 >>GOODE: Part of it is sticking up out of the debris, 277 00:16:11,271 --> 00:16:15,742 but I would say most of it is-- they are quite 278 00:16:15,842 --> 00:16:17,744 a bit larger than people think because they 279 00:16:17,844 --> 00:16:21,648 are covered in sludge. 280 00:16:21,748 --> 00:16:24,651 >>DAVID: I'm remembering one insider, Daniel, tell me 281 00:16:24,751 --> 00:16:27,687 that he saw a picture of astronauts waving 282 00:16:27,787 --> 00:16:29,489 next to a pyramid on Mars and that there 283 00:16:29,589 --> 00:16:33,393 was a very nice, sharp line of the pyramid going up. 284 00:16:33,493 --> 00:16:37,564 So it seems like you're kind of confirming that there would 285 00:16:37,664 --> 00:16:40,767 be certain pyramids where there are still 286 00:16:40,867 --> 00:16:43,836 some sharpness that could be visible from the ground. 287 00:16:43,936 --> 00:16:45,738 >>GOODE: They were obviously pyramids. 288 00:16:45,838 --> 00:16:46,739 >>DAVID: Wow. 289 00:16:46,839 --> 00:16:49,376 OK, so the Germans went to the moon, 290 00:16:49,476 --> 00:16:51,711 and you said they went to the asteroid belt, 291 00:16:51,811 --> 00:16:52,845 and they also went to Mars. 292 00:16:52,945 --> 00:16:55,248 So what is the sequence? 293 00:16:55,348 --> 00:16:57,150 Did they do all this at the same time? 294 00:16:57,250 --> 00:16:58,651 Or how did they approach this? 295 00:16:58,751 --> 00:17:00,420 >>GOODE: Well, first they went to the moon. 296 00:17:05,658 --> 00:17:11,964 After a failed attempt, they set up their base on the moon. 297 00:17:12,065 --> 00:17:14,634 And then they went to Mars. 298 00:17:14,734 --> 00:17:24,677 And then they set up another temporary base on Mars 299 00:17:24,777 --> 00:17:29,182 when they built out a larger base on Mars. 300 00:17:29,282 --> 00:17:33,453 >>DAVID: OK, so let's just pause there for a second. 301 00:17:33,553 --> 00:17:36,456 Germans get to Mars. 302 00:17:36,556 --> 00:17:38,558 We haven't had NASA go to Mars yet 303 00:17:38,658 --> 00:17:39,859 at this point in our history. 304 00:17:39,959 --> 00:17:42,329 What's the year that we're talking that they got there 305 00:17:42,429 --> 00:17:43,563 that you know of? 306 00:17:43,663 --> 00:17:46,933 >>GOODE: This was all happening in the late '30s 307 00:17:47,033 --> 00:17:48,301 and early '40s. 308 00:17:48,401 --> 00:17:53,005 >>DAVID: Did they look specifically for archaeology? 309 00:17:53,106 --> 00:17:57,477 >>GOODE: I just know that they were looking for bases 310 00:17:57,577 --> 00:18:05,852 to create outside of the Earth, as well as bases in areas 311 00:18:05,952 --> 00:18:11,691 of the Earth that were inhospitable or out 312 00:18:11,791 --> 00:18:16,696 of the reach of the regular civilization of Earth. 313 00:18:16,796 --> 00:18:18,398 >>DAVID: How did they have breathable air 314 00:18:18,498 --> 00:18:19,499 inside these craft? 315 00:18:19,599 --> 00:18:21,868 Was that part of extraterrestrial technology 316 00:18:21,968 --> 00:18:24,337 that they were given so that they could have a long trip 317 00:18:24,437 --> 00:18:25,838 and not need to come back here? 318 00:18:25,938 --> 00:18:28,475 >>GOODE: Yeah, they had developed 319 00:18:28,575 --> 00:18:30,109 some of their super submarines. 320 00:18:30,210 --> 00:18:34,381 They had already begun to develop carbon dioxide 321 00:18:34,481 --> 00:18:43,122 scrubbers and closed-system oxygen-breathing systems. 322 00:18:43,223 --> 00:18:46,426 They had already started to develop that for some time. 323 00:18:46,526 --> 00:18:50,830 But it was after they had worked in development with these ET 324 00:18:50,930 --> 00:18:55,502 groups and developed advanced technology that 325 00:18:55,602 --> 00:19:00,907 not only gave them electrogravitic travel 326 00:19:01,007 --> 00:19:06,613 but also gave them the ability to have artificial gravity, 327 00:19:06,713 --> 00:19:15,555 and also have environmental controls that they 328 00:19:15,655 --> 00:19:22,962 felt comfortable leaving that far from Earth. 329 00:19:23,062 --> 00:19:25,298 >>DAVID: Would they travel from the Earth to Mars? 330 00:19:25,398 --> 00:19:27,800 Or did they have a space station that they built somewhere 331 00:19:27,900 --> 00:19:30,803 between as like a supply depot? 332 00:19:30,903 --> 00:19:35,508 >>GOODE: They traveled from the Earth to the moon, 333 00:19:35,608 --> 00:19:39,612 from the moon to Mars, just like we have planned to do. 334 00:19:39,712 --> 00:19:41,648 >>DAVID: And what's the time of that trip? 335 00:19:41,748 --> 00:19:43,416 Like if you travel from the moon to Mars, 336 00:19:43,516 --> 00:19:44,784 how long would it take them based 337 00:19:44,884 --> 00:19:47,086 on that technology in the '30s? 338 00:19:47,186 --> 00:19:50,490 >>GOODE: It would have been a matter of hours. 339 00:19:50,590 --> 00:19:53,293 I don't know exactly how long. 340 00:19:53,393 --> 00:19:56,929 >>DAVID: And you say back then, as in now it would be faster? 341 00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:58,698 >>GOODE: Now it's a matter of minutes. 342 00:19:58,798 --> 00:20:00,567 >>DAVID: Wow. 343 00:20:00,667 --> 00:20:07,940 Let's say that they are looking from the surface of Mars now. 344 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,878 Some researchers have said, and Hoagland is one of them, 345 00:20:11,978 --> 00:20:14,681 that the original Viking Lander photos seem 346 00:20:14,781 --> 00:20:18,718 to have had the red turned up in the image 347 00:20:18,818 --> 00:20:21,187 and that the sky does not actually look red, 348 00:20:21,288 --> 00:20:23,189 but it's actually blue like the Earth. 349 00:20:23,290 --> 00:20:25,758 >>GOODE: Yes, they turned a red filter on. 350 00:20:25,858 --> 00:20:29,562 But you have to understand, there are times, 351 00:20:29,662 --> 00:20:36,168 depending on the-- it's very dynamic on Mars. 352 00:20:36,269 --> 00:20:38,638 There are times when the sky is red. 353 00:20:38,738 --> 00:20:42,909 There's so much dust in the air, especially if you're 354 00:20:43,009 --> 00:20:47,380 in the equatorial areas. 355 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:52,319 The closer you get to the polar regions, 356 00:20:52,419 --> 00:21:00,026 the less atmospheric sand you have, debris you have. 357 00:21:00,126 --> 00:21:06,933 And there are aurora borealis. 358 00:21:07,033 --> 00:21:14,507 You have a purplish pink sky depending on the time 359 00:21:14,607 --> 00:21:19,346 of day, sunset, sunrise. 360 00:21:19,446 --> 00:21:31,424 But during the day, there is kind of a purplish blue sky, 361 00:21:31,524 --> 00:21:36,429 but there is a lot of time when the sky, because 362 00:21:36,529 --> 00:21:43,035 of all the storms, is full of the red sand. 363 00:21:43,135 --> 00:21:46,138 And it's red. 364 00:21:46,238 --> 00:21:49,909 >>DAVID: Could we breathe the air anywhere on Mars? 365 00:21:50,009 --> 00:21:53,212 >>GOODE: It's not advisable to breathe it anywhere on Mars. 366 00:21:53,312 --> 00:21:56,015 In the northern and southern regions, 367 00:21:56,115 --> 00:21:58,485 it's easier to breathe. 368 00:21:58,585 --> 00:22:04,056 But it's more like being at the top of Mount Everest. 369 00:22:04,156 --> 00:22:05,291 Oxygen is thin. 370 00:22:08,795 --> 00:22:13,500 The barometric pressure is very, very, very thin. 371 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:20,072 You do need a light duty, lightweight protective suit, 372 00:22:20,172 --> 00:22:29,816 and usually a respirator that is releasing some oxygen to you. 373 00:22:29,916 --> 00:22:30,883 >>DAVID: Very interesting. 374 00:22:30,983 --> 00:22:34,921 You said before that the moon is heavily 375 00:22:35,021 --> 00:22:38,825 inhabited with a variety of different races. 376 00:22:38,925 --> 00:22:42,695 Are there satellites orbiting Mars or space platforms 377 00:22:42,795 --> 00:22:44,897 that have weapons' systems that will shoot you down 378 00:22:44,997 --> 00:22:46,766 if you try to go to that planet? 379 00:22:46,866 --> 00:22:49,436 How did the Germans-- did they just fly right in? 380 00:22:49,536 --> 00:22:52,672 Or did they encounter some resistance? 381 00:22:52,772 --> 00:22:57,076 >>GOODE: I do not know if they encountered resistance. 382 00:22:57,176 --> 00:23:02,849 I believe at that point they had already formed an alliance. 383 00:23:02,949 --> 00:23:07,053 So I believe that people, or the group that they had formed 384 00:23:07,153 --> 00:23:10,857 an alliance with, would have been the people-- "people"-- 385 00:23:10,957 --> 00:23:13,860 that you would have to worry about shooting you down. 386 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,094 >>DAVID: Right. 387 00:23:15,194 --> 00:23:22,301 >>GOODE: There are a couple small moons around Mars. 388 00:23:22,401 --> 00:23:24,571 >>DAVID: Phobos and Deimos, yeah. 389 00:23:24,671 --> 00:23:29,576 >>GOODE: And there are satellites, current era, 390 00:23:29,676 --> 00:23:31,744 like crazy around Mars. 391 00:23:31,844 --> 00:23:32,945 >>DAVID: Really? 392 00:23:33,045 --> 00:23:35,114 Satellites built by modern humans, you're saying? 393 00:23:35,214 --> 00:23:41,087 >>GOODE: Modern humans, modern humans that inhabit Mars. 394 00:23:41,187 --> 00:23:43,623 >>DAVID: Really? 395 00:23:43,723 --> 00:23:45,892 People that were born on Earth that migrated to Mars 396 00:23:45,992 --> 00:23:47,026 and built those satellites? 397 00:23:47,126 --> 00:23:48,160 Is that what you're saying? 398 00:23:48,260 --> 00:23:51,964 >>GOODE: People that may be descendants of people 399 00:23:52,064 --> 00:23:54,934 that were born on Earth. 400 00:23:55,034 --> 00:23:57,036 >>DAVID: And you said it's filled with satellites? 401 00:23:57,136 --> 00:23:58,137 >>GOODE: Yeah. 402 00:23:58,237 --> 00:23:59,472 There are plenty of satellites around Mars. 403 00:23:59,572 --> 00:24:00,707 >>DAVID: Wow. 404 00:24:00,807 --> 00:24:03,943 >>GOODE: And some of them are weapons' systems. 405 00:24:04,043 --> 00:24:06,946 And a lot of these are people that 406 00:24:07,046 --> 00:24:12,284 are descendants from some of the German groups that established 407 00:24:12,384 --> 00:24:19,992 early colonies on Mars that later on grew 408 00:24:20,092 --> 00:24:24,997 after the Germans co-opted the military-industrial complex 409 00:24:25,097 --> 00:24:27,767 of the United States. 410 00:24:27,867 --> 00:24:32,672 These colonies grew across the planet. 411 00:24:32,772 --> 00:24:39,378 And a lot of these people that are there now are descendants. 412 00:24:39,478 --> 00:24:40,847 >>DAVID: I want to get back to that, 413 00:24:40,947 --> 00:24:44,350 but you mentioned Phobos and Deimos. 414 00:24:44,450 --> 00:24:46,152 People who've studied this information 415 00:24:46,252 --> 00:24:49,255 online and have really kind of gotten into Mars, 416 00:24:49,355 --> 00:24:51,123 it's kind of a commonly known thing 417 00:24:51,223 --> 00:24:54,360 that the moons are, I guess, too close to the planet 418 00:24:54,460 --> 00:24:56,629 and that they also move too quickly in their orbits. 419 00:25:00,833 --> 00:25:03,670 I guess some people, like Hoagland, have also 420 00:25:03,770 --> 00:25:05,638 said that it appears that they're hollow inside 421 00:25:05,738 --> 00:25:08,841 based on their signatures. 422 00:25:08,941 --> 00:25:10,910 So what are we looking at with Phobos and Deimos? 423 00:25:11,010 --> 00:25:11,911 Are they just moons? 424 00:25:12,011 --> 00:25:13,279 Or is there something else going on? 425 00:25:13,379 --> 00:25:18,484 >>GOODE: Phobos is crushed, is a crushed sphere. 426 00:25:18,585 --> 00:25:19,619 >>DAVID: Really? 427 00:25:19,719 --> 00:25:21,554 So it was originally a perfectly round sphere? 428 00:25:21,654 --> 00:25:24,056 >>GOODE: It was at one time a sphere. 429 00:25:24,156 --> 00:25:25,157 >>DAVID: Wow. 430 00:25:25,257 --> 00:25:29,328 >>GOODE: And at one end, there's an opening. 431 00:25:29,428 --> 00:25:31,598 >>DAVID: So they don't show us that from NASA? 432 00:25:31,698 --> 00:25:34,801 They just make sure they photoshop it out or something? 433 00:25:34,901 --> 00:25:37,804 >>GOODE: I haven't really looked at the NASA images, 434 00:25:37,904 --> 00:25:42,875 but I know that NASA photoshops and airbrushes images 435 00:25:42,975 --> 00:25:49,348 at an unbelievable rate of Mars, the moon, and other planetoids. 436 00:25:49,448 --> 00:25:53,052 So I would imagine there are a lot of things about Phobos 437 00:25:53,152 --> 00:25:57,690 that they photoshop or make out of focus. 438 00:25:57,790 --> 00:25:59,992 >>DAVID: Well, one of the weird things about it-- and I 439 00:26:00,092 --> 00:26:02,829 can see it perfectly in my mind, and we'll put it up on screen-- 440 00:26:02,929 --> 00:26:06,866 is Phobos has these very extensive, 441 00:26:06,966 --> 00:26:10,336 parallel, straight lines that are all in the same direction. 442 00:26:10,436 --> 00:26:12,805 And then there's others that are going 90 degrees. 443 00:26:12,905 --> 00:26:14,240 >>GOODE: Yeah, they're like ridges. 444 00:26:14,340 --> 00:26:15,808 >>DAVID: What do you think that is? 445 00:26:15,908 --> 00:26:20,780 >>GOODE: Just like on the moon, our moon-- 446 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,350 this gets into a whole other topic. 447 00:26:24,450 --> 00:26:33,626 Our moon is an artificial structure. 448 00:26:33,726 --> 00:26:40,166 On top of it are hundreds and hundreds of feet of regolith 449 00:26:40,266 --> 00:26:44,971 and just smashed meteor matter that have built up 450 00:26:45,071 --> 00:26:47,339 over many millennia. 451 00:26:47,439 --> 00:26:52,178 And Phobos has its own gravitational field, 452 00:26:52,278 --> 00:26:55,181 and it pulls debris on top of it. 453 00:26:55,281 --> 00:26:59,185 And underneath this debris is a super structure. 454 00:26:59,285 --> 00:27:02,488 >>DAVID: Did the Germans show any initial interest in Phobos 455 00:27:02,588 --> 00:27:04,490 if there's a hole in it that you could fly into? 456 00:27:04,590 --> 00:27:06,625 Did they do that when they first got there? 457 00:27:06,726 --> 00:27:10,162 >>GOODE: I did not see any record of them. 458 00:27:10,262 --> 00:27:11,363 >>DAVID: What about Demos? 459 00:27:11,463 --> 00:27:13,499 You mentioned Phobos is a collapsed sphere, which 460 00:27:13,599 --> 00:27:16,969 I guess implies that there's a lot of hollowness inside. 461 00:27:17,069 --> 00:27:20,539 Is Demos also something other than just a regular moon? 462 00:27:20,639 --> 00:27:27,279 >>GOODE: I did not read anything about it being artificial. 463 00:27:27,379 --> 00:27:32,084 So it's possible that it might be a natural object that 464 00:27:32,184 --> 00:27:40,059 was captured in a cataclysm that happened a long time ago. 465 00:27:40,159 --> 00:27:43,796 >>DAVID: First of all, is there liquid water running 466 00:27:43,896 --> 00:27:46,032 on the surface now in certain places? 467 00:27:46,132 --> 00:27:51,904 >>GOODE: Mars has a very strange cycle year, yearly cycle. 468 00:27:52,004 --> 00:27:55,307 At certain times, the water that is 469 00:27:55,407 --> 00:27:59,511 at the surface in the form of ice liquefies. 470 00:27:59,611 --> 00:28:00,279 >>DAVID: Really? 471 00:28:00,379 --> 00:28:02,982 >>GOODE: But not for long. 472 00:28:03,082 --> 00:28:10,122 I never saw information about lakes, small oceans 473 00:28:10,222 --> 00:28:11,958 in the current era. 474 00:28:12,058 --> 00:28:16,228 I never flew over bodies of water or saw bodies of water. 475 00:28:16,328 --> 00:28:18,664 >>DAVID: OK. 476 00:28:18,765 --> 00:28:23,169 So did the Germans have a plan to try 477 00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:26,272 to use local materials to make a sustainable base when 478 00:28:26,372 --> 00:28:27,106 they got there? 479 00:28:27,206 --> 00:28:28,207 Was that always the intention? 480 00:28:28,307 --> 00:28:29,141 >>GOODE: Yes. 481 00:28:29,241 --> 00:28:30,777 Just as on the moon, they planned 482 00:28:30,877 --> 00:28:33,112 to take a certain amount of resources 483 00:28:33,212 --> 00:28:36,482 to Mars, lime and all the different things 484 00:28:36,582 --> 00:28:43,956 they need to mix with local resources to make concrete 485 00:28:44,056 --> 00:28:50,562 and whatever they needed to build structures 486 00:28:50,662 --> 00:28:56,836 that they could then pressurize and use as temporary shelters. 487 00:28:56,936 --> 00:28:59,939 They had to make quite a few trips 488 00:29:00,039 --> 00:29:04,676 to bring people and materials over in the beginning. 489 00:29:04,777 --> 00:29:08,647 This was in the beginning of when they were using 490 00:29:08,747 --> 00:29:12,484 stargate or portal travel. 491 00:29:12,584 --> 00:29:18,124 And in this early era, they were using the portals 492 00:29:18,224 --> 00:29:24,496 to transport materials and not people or organics. 493 00:29:24,596 --> 00:29:26,598 >>DAVID: Did they have trouble with the organics 494 00:29:26,698 --> 00:29:31,237 having damage, like to their life cycle? 495 00:29:31,337 --> 00:29:34,706 >>GOODE: Yes, as in killing them in a very gruesome way. 496 00:29:34,807 --> 00:29:36,208 >>DAVID: Right. 497 00:29:36,308 --> 00:29:39,178 >>GOODE: Until they figured out the proper way 498 00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:45,051 to do it with help from some of these allied extraterrestrial 499 00:29:45,151 --> 00:29:46,052 groups. 500 00:29:46,152 --> 00:29:47,719 >>DAVID: So what's the year that you 501 00:29:47,820 --> 00:29:52,558 know where portals started to be used to transport materials? 502 00:29:52,658 --> 00:29:54,961 >>GOODE: They've been using portals 503 00:29:55,061 --> 00:29:59,832 to transport materials-- they've known how to do 504 00:29:59,932 --> 00:30:01,901 that since the '30s and '40s. 505 00:30:02,001 --> 00:30:04,136 >>DAVID: Wow. 506 00:30:04,236 --> 00:30:06,238 So that's well before the Philadelphia Experiment. 507 00:30:06,338 --> 00:30:08,607 >>GOODE: Right. 508 00:30:08,707 --> 00:30:10,609 And you saw how badly that went with the people. 509 00:30:10,709 --> 00:30:11,911 >>DAVID: Absolutely. 510 00:30:12,011 --> 00:30:14,046 >>GOODE: It wasn't until the '50s 511 00:30:14,146 --> 00:30:19,318 that they were able to start transporting people 512 00:30:19,418 --> 00:30:23,455 consistently without them suffering. 513 00:30:23,555 --> 00:30:27,326 I believe they called it temporal dementia. 514 00:30:27,426 --> 00:30:34,934 People would teleport intact from here to Mars. 515 00:30:35,034 --> 00:30:39,738 They would look fine, but then after a number of days, 516 00:30:39,838 --> 00:30:41,941 they would suffer some sort of dementia, 517 00:30:42,041 --> 00:30:45,077 they would call temporal dementia. 518 00:30:45,177 --> 00:30:48,314 And the Germans did a lot of work 519 00:30:48,414 --> 00:30:51,817 in this field that helped us figure out 520 00:30:51,918 --> 00:30:56,788 how to do this properly-- them working alongside their ET 521 00:30:56,889 --> 00:30:59,125 allies. 522 00:30:59,225 --> 00:31:02,328 >>DAVID: It's such a mind-blowing thing 523 00:31:02,428 --> 00:31:05,497 to imagine that there were artifacts already there, 524 00:31:05,597 --> 00:31:08,700 like pyramids, when the Germans got there. 525 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,469 How much were they interested in trying 526 00:31:10,569 --> 00:31:12,972 to reoccupy what was there, and how much were they just 527 00:31:13,072 --> 00:31:14,506 trying to build new stuff? 528 00:31:14,606 --> 00:31:17,009 >>GOODE: In the beginning, it was getting a lay of the land. 529 00:31:21,180 --> 00:31:23,349 Just like we're doing, they were mapping out Mars, 530 00:31:23,449 --> 00:31:25,884 getting a lay of the land. 531 00:31:25,985 --> 00:31:30,656 They had quite a bit of data on the geography of Mars 532 00:31:30,756 --> 00:31:33,159 and these smart glass pads. 533 00:31:33,259 --> 00:31:40,266 And this was information that was presented on a smart glass 534 00:31:40,366 --> 00:31:43,435 pad that's very technical, but it 535 00:31:43,535 --> 00:31:48,440 came from like typed sheets of paper that I was seeing. 536 00:31:48,540 --> 00:31:53,779 So they didn't have a real high-tech way 537 00:31:53,879 --> 00:31:56,315 of showing this information. 538 00:31:56,415 --> 00:31:57,716 >>DAVID: So the Germans originally 539 00:31:57,816 --> 00:32:00,552 didn't have these smart glass pads, as you said before, 540 00:32:00,652 --> 00:32:03,689 but the data that they came up with in their surveying 541 00:32:03,789 --> 00:32:08,327 you saw as these JPEGs, or whatever they are, 542 00:32:08,427 --> 00:32:10,629 of original, typewritten documents. 543 00:32:10,729 --> 00:32:11,763 >>GOODE: Right. 544 00:32:11,863 --> 00:32:16,502 And some older photos from old 35-millimeter, 545 00:32:16,602 --> 00:32:18,937 or whatever they used, photographs. 546 00:32:19,038 --> 00:32:20,406 >>DAVID: Were there are photographs 547 00:32:20,506 --> 00:32:24,210 of cool-looking ruins from old civilizations that you saw? 548 00:32:24,310 --> 00:32:28,680 >>GOODE: Yes, of ruins and of aerial photographs of areas, 549 00:32:28,780 --> 00:32:31,150 the huge volcano-- 550 00:32:31,250 --> 00:32:32,051 >>DAVID: Olympus Mons. 551 00:32:32,151 --> 00:32:33,452 >>GOODE: Olympus Mons. 552 00:32:33,552 --> 00:32:40,292 There are lava tubes that are 10 times the size of the lava 553 00:32:40,392 --> 00:32:42,328 tubes we have here. 554 00:32:42,428 --> 00:32:49,035 And they are perfect for sealing and creating 555 00:32:49,135 --> 00:32:50,602 an environment on the inside. 556 00:32:50,702 --> 00:32:54,440 And you have an easy, ready-made base. 557 00:32:54,540 --> 00:32:59,878 And that is a very highly coveted area to create bases. 558 00:32:59,978 --> 00:33:03,582 And the Germans wanted it. 559 00:33:03,682 --> 00:33:14,093 Later the ICC groups, I guess the modern space program 560 00:33:14,193 --> 00:33:19,365 groups, wanted to utilize that area. 561 00:33:19,465 --> 00:33:23,135 But it was already occupied by another group. 562 00:33:23,235 --> 00:33:26,672 There were a lot of them, and they defended it fiercely. 563 00:33:26,772 --> 00:33:27,839 >>DAVID: Really? 564 00:33:27,939 --> 00:33:29,308 Do we know anything about what they look like 565 00:33:29,408 --> 00:33:30,409 or where they're from? 566 00:33:30,509 --> 00:33:32,478 >>GOODE: Yes. 567 00:33:32,578 --> 00:33:36,048 There's a treaty between some of these groups. 568 00:33:36,148 --> 00:33:39,085 One of the groups are a reptilian type, 569 00:33:39,185 --> 00:33:42,688 and the other are an insectoid type. 570 00:33:42,788 --> 00:33:45,557 >>DAVID: That's kind of what I expect. 571 00:33:45,657 --> 00:33:47,893 >>GOODE: That is a very coveted area. 572 00:33:47,993 --> 00:33:50,229 >>DAVID: So when you say 10 times bigger than lava tubes 573 00:33:50,329 --> 00:33:55,134 on Earth, are we talking five miles wide, 20 miles wide, 574 00:33:55,234 --> 00:33:59,605 50 miles wide, top to bottom? 575 00:33:59,705 --> 00:34:02,708 >>GOODE: I mean, huge. 576 00:34:02,808 --> 00:34:07,679 I mean, they dwarf any of the caverns or the tubes 577 00:34:07,779 --> 00:34:08,814 that we have here. 578 00:34:08,914 --> 00:34:10,316 >>DAVID: Most of which we don't know 579 00:34:10,416 --> 00:34:11,583 about, I guess you're saying. 580 00:34:11,683 --> 00:34:12,984 >>GOODE: Right, yeah. 581 00:34:13,085 --> 00:34:14,320 >>DAVID: Because they already have huge cities built in them. 582 00:34:14,420 --> 00:34:16,722 >>GOODE: It has to do with the size of the volcano, 583 00:34:16,822 --> 00:34:21,427 the gravity, the barometric pressure on Mars, 584 00:34:21,527 --> 00:34:25,631 and the way that-- how come they're so huge. 585 00:34:25,731 --> 00:34:29,067 >>DAVID: So could they be even like 100 or 200 miles long 586 00:34:29,168 --> 00:34:30,502 from top to bottom? 587 00:34:30,602 --> 00:34:31,970 >>GOODE: I would be speculating. 588 00:34:32,070 --> 00:34:36,375 I didn't see any hard data on how many meters or yards 589 00:34:36,475 --> 00:34:38,377 or feet they were. 590 00:34:38,477 --> 00:34:40,346 >>DAVID: But given that some of the cities here 591 00:34:40,446 --> 00:34:42,914 on Earth I guess can probably hold hundreds of thousands 592 00:34:43,014 --> 00:34:45,651 of people, you're saying that in these lava tubes, 593 00:34:45,751 --> 00:34:47,052 you could have millions of people. 594 00:34:47,153 --> 00:34:48,920 >>GOODE: There are millions of beings 595 00:34:49,020 --> 00:34:50,922 living in these lava tubes. 596 00:34:51,022 --> 00:34:51,590 >>DAVID: Wow. 597 00:34:51,690 --> 00:34:53,225 What are they doing? 598 00:34:53,325 --> 00:34:55,694 >>GOODE: Just living out their life cycles there. 599 00:34:55,794 --> 00:34:58,397 They have their own civilization, their own way, 600 00:34:58,497 --> 00:35:00,732 their own societies. 601 00:35:00,832 --> 00:35:02,033 They're very territorial. 602 00:35:02,134 --> 00:35:03,369 >>DAVID: Do they have pop stars? 603 00:35:03,469 --> 00:35:05,337 Is there like an insect Britney Spears? 604 00:35:05,437 --> 00:35:07,773 [both laugh] 605 00:35:07,873 --> 00:35:11,243 >>GOODE: I don't know that much about them. 606 00:35:11,343 --> 00:35:15,181 A lot of the people that have been assigned 607 00:35:15,281 --> 00:35:18,817 to do security details on the surface of Mars 608 00:35:18,917 --> 00:35:20,286 have interacted with them. 609 00:35:20,386 --> 00:35:22,421 I have not interacted with them. 610 00:35:22,521 --> 00:35:25,357 >>DAVID: So did the Germans get resistance from them right away 611 00:35:25,457 --> 00:35:26,492 when they first arrived? 612 00:35:26,592 --> 00:35:28,927 >>GOODE: They interacted with them quite a bit. 613 00:35:29,027 --> 00:35:31,263 >>DAVID: They tried to fight to get some of these tubes? 614 00:35:31,363 --> 00:35:32,564 >>GOODE: Yes. 615 00:35:32,664 --> 00:35:34,433 Their plan was to go in and take some of these tubes. 616 00:35:34,533 --> 00:35:35,901 And there were some battles fought. 617 00:35:36,001 --> 00:35:38,370 And it did not go well for them at all. 618 00:35:38,470 --> 00:35:43,175 They even had some of their early bases destroyed. 619 00:35:43,275 --> 00:35:48,146 And they lost entire early bases. 620 00:35:48,247 --> 00:35:49,681 >>DAVID: With the personnel, like all 621 00:35:49,781 --> 00:35:50,682 the people were killed? 622 00:35:50,782 --> 00:35:51,583 >>GOODE: Yeah. 623 00:35:51,683 --> 00:35:54,085 And they also chose poorly. 624 00:35:54,186 --> 00:35:59,691 They built some of their bases towards the equator 625 00:35:59,791 --> 00:36:08,066 and found out that the dust storms that kick up quite often 626 00:36:08,166 --> 00:36:11,737 are very highly electrically charged. 627 00:36:11,837 --> 00:36:13,872 Static electricity builds up in all 628 00:36:13,972 --> 00:36:19,378 of the sand that's blowing at very high rates of speed. 629 00:36:19,478 --> 00:36:20,579 >>DAVID: That makes sense. 630 00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:25,551 >>GOODE: And the minerals underneath the planet-- 631 00:36:25,651 --> 00:36:30,656 I think I mentioned before, one side, because of impacts, 632 00:36:30,756 --> 00:36:35,661 caused crystallization of some of the rock. 633 00:36:35,761 --> 00:36:37,863 >>DAVID: Right, you said shocked quartz was formed. 634 00:36:37,963 --> 00:36:45,437 >>GOODE: And causing one side to be kind of an anode, cathode 635 00:36:45,537 --> 00:36:48,640 and anode on each side. 636 00:36:48,740 --> 00:36:51,977 So the surface, especially around the equator, 637 00:36:52,077 --> 00:36:55,914 will build up an electrical charge in the ground as well. 638 00:36:56,014 --> 00:36:57,249 >>DAVID: Well, that makes sense. 639 00:36:57,349 --> 00:36:59,585 It's the same principle where you take certain metals 640 00:36:59,685 --> 00:37:01,853 and you put them under pressure and you electrify them, 641 00:37:01,953 --> 00:37:03,389 and you make them magnetic. 642 00:37:03,489 --> 00:37:05,424 So this was the whole side of the planet. 643 00:37:05,524 --> 00:37:09,761 >>GOODE: Well, the problem when you are building a base 644 00:37:09,861 --> 00:37:13,465 and you have all this static electricity to where there's 645 00:37:13,565 --> 00:37:20,071 lightning storms going on in the sand storms-- it was that much 646 00:37:20,171 --> 00:37:22,674 of an electrical field being created-- well, 647 00:37:22,774 --> 00:37:25,277 it's destroying their electronics. 648 00:37:25,377 --> 00:37:27,112 >>DAVID: So this is equivalent of a CME? 649 00:37:27,212 --> 00:37:29,648 It's like some kind of really powerful EMP pulse 650 00:37:29,748 --> 00:37:30,215 or something? 651 00:37:30,316 --> 00:37:30,916 >>GOODE: Yes. 652 00:37:31,016 --> 00:37:33,519 And these occur often. 653 00:37:33,619 --> 00:37:36,422 >>DAVID: So does that mean that the equator region is just 654 00:37:36,522 --> 00:37:37,623 no good? 655 00:37:37,723 --> 00:37:41,226 >>GOODE: It's not a good place to set up a colony. 656 00:37:44,396 --> 00:37:47,799 I'm sure they've overcome a lot of shielding problems 657 00:37:47,899 --> 00:37:51,036 to create colonies there now. 658 00:37:51,136 --> 00:37:53,439 I know we can fly through those sand storms 659 00:37:53,539 --> 00:37:55,874 now and not have any electrical problems. 660 00:37:55,974 --> 00:38:00,979 But back in the day when the Germans were, 661 00:38:01,079 --> 00:38:08,119 I guess, landing on Plymouth Rock and forging new territory, 662 00:38:08,219 --> 00:38:11,590 they found out that this was not a place to be, 663 00:38:11,690 --> 00:38:14,793 especially with the technology they had at the time. 664 00:38:14,893 --> 00:38:17,596 They were losing all of their technology. 665 00:38:17,696 --> 00:38:22,300 So they found out that the closer to the polar regions, 666 00:38:22,401 --> 00:38:28,407 within 20 degrees, I think, of the north and south pole, 667 00:38:28,507 --> 00:38:31,309 were the best habitable regions. 668 00:38:31,410 --> 00:38:36,515 And it also happened to be where a lot of other groups 669 00:38:36,615 --> 00:38:38,016 had been setting up bases. 670 00:38:38,116 --> 00:38:43,822 So they had to find an area where they could claim and set 671 00:38:43,922 --> 00:38:52,431 up a base, and everyone on Mars, just like people associate 672 00:38:52,531 --> 00:38:59,438 Mars with war, all of the beings there are very territorial, 673 00:38:59,538 --> 00:39:01,306 which I guess you could say is warlike. 674 00:39:01,407 --> 00:39:04,676 But it's part of their culture to be very territorial. 675 00:39:04,776 --> 00:39:08,346 It's like putting too many fish in a fish tank. 676 00:39:08,447 --> 00:39:12,183 And they had to stake out their ground and defend it. 677 00:39:12,283 --> 00:39:18,056 And it took quite a bit of doing for them to do so. 678 00:39:18,156 --> 00:39:22,561 And they weren't able to be fully successful until much 679 00:39:22,661 --> 00:39:28,166 later into the later '50s when they were working 680 00:39:28,266 --> 00:39:33,539 with the US and the military-industrial complex 681 00:39:33,639 --> 00:39:39,411 and had all of the resources of the United States behind them. 682 00:39:39,511 --> 00:39:42,047 And then they really were able to start 683 00:39:42,147 --> 00:39:45,984 building out and becoming more of a force 684 00:39:46,084 --> 00:39:50,188 on Mars to push back some of these other groups, 685 00:39:50,288 --> 00:39:54,793 just like Americans did the Native Americans. 686 00:39:54,893 --> 00:39:56,595 They pushed back other groups and took over. 687 00:39:56,695 --> 00:39:58,129 >>DAVID: Manifest Destiny. 688 00:39:58,229 --> 00:40:02,668 So during a typical Earth year, the Earth is tilted to the sun, 689 00:40:02,768 --> 00:40:04,770 and we're going to have seasons where 690 00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:06,605 it's going to get really cold or really hot 691 00:40:06,705 --> 00:40:09,875 depending on where you are, and that changes. 692 00:40:09,975 --> 00:40:12,978 If you're building near a polar region, 693 00:40:13,078 --> 00:40:17,015 and you're in Mars winter, how is that survivable 694 00:40:17,115 --> 00:40:20,351 for human life, given that Mars is farther away from the sun, 695 00:40:20,452 --> 00:40:22,220 would therefore be colder based on what we 696 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,290 know from NASA studies of Mars? 697 00:40:25,390 --> 00:40:27,292 >>GOODE: It's much easier to deal with the cold. 698 00:40:30,361 --> 00:40:36,234 When you have cold, you're going to have frozen water 699 00:40:36,334 --> 00:40:39,137 in the form of ice. 700 00:40:39,237 --> 00:40:40,972 It's a lot easier to deal with the cold 701 00:40:41,072 --> 00:40:44,710 than it is to deal with living in a desert 702 00:40:44,810 --> 00:40:48,780 to where you have electrical storms all the time, 703 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:53,485 and plus the atmosphere is a little bit more 704 00:40:53,585 --> 00:40:57,589 hospitable in those regions, even if it's cold, 705 00:40:57,689 --> 00:40:58,524 I mean breathing-wise. 706 00:41:02,260 --> 00:41:07,432 Even though it's a very small oxygen content level, 707 00:41:07,533 --> 00:41:11,970 there's still more and in the north and southern poles. 708 00:41:12,070 --> 00:41:13,038 >>DAVID: OK. 709 00:41:13,138 --> 00:41:15,040 So are you saying that these German bases 710 00:41:15,140 --> 00:41:17,208 were built in what we would consider 711 00:41:17,308 --> 00:41:19,177 an arctic-looking region? 712 00:41:19,277 --> 00:41:20,912 >>GOODE: Not in the arctic. 713 00:41:21,012 --> 00:41:26,051 Usually within-- we would call it the 20th parallel. 714 00:41:26,151 --> 00:41:28,486 >>DAVID: Were there any critters on Mars 715 00:41:28,587 --> 00:41:30,121 that they could hunt and eat for food? 716 00:41:30,221 --> 00:41:32,323 Is there any life there? 717 00:41:32,423 --> 00:41:33,759 >>GOODE: Yeah, there is life there. 718 00:41:33,859 --> 00:41:38,730 I haven't heard or read too much about them hunting. 719 00:41:38,830 --> 00:41:44,970 I'm sure, as rough as things got for the original Mars colony 720 00:41:45,070 --> 00:41:49,675 people, I'm sure they did eat what 721 00:41:49,775 --> 00:41:53,612 they could find on the surface. 722 00:41:53,712 --> 00:41:56,147 I just don't recall reading anything 723 00:41:56,247 --> 00:42:02,220 about them having barbecues of Martian critters. 724 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:03,955 >>DAVID: What different types of critters 725 00:42:04,055 --> 00:42:06,157 did they find when they got there? 726 00:42:06,257 --> 00:42:08,326 Do you have to dig down, or are they on the surface? 727 00:42:08,426 --> 00:42:09,628 Do they fly? 728 00:42:09,728 --> 00:42:14,566 >>GOODE: Most of them are burrowing-type animal life, 729 00:42:14,666 --> 00:42:21,306 even this weird little-- there's this little bat-bird-like 730 00:42:21,406 --> 00:42:21,873 thing. 731 00:42:21,973 --> 00:42:24,009 They dug holes. 732 00:42:24,109 --> 00:42:29,447 When we were building this one outpost, 733 00:42:29,547 --> 00:42:31,983 we were seeing these little holes. 734 00:42:32,083 --> 00:42:40,125 And around dusk, they would fly out, and each flap of the wing, 735 00:42:40,225 --> 00:42:42,728 you'd hear kind of a cheep, cheep, cheep, 736 00:42:42,828 --> 00:42:46,531 cheep, as they would fly out. 737 00:42:46,632 --> 00:42:49,334 What they ate, where they went, I don't know. 738 00:42:49,434 --> 00:42:53,204 And then they would return and go back into their hole. 739 00:42:53,304 --> 00:42:54,572 >>DAVID: What did they look like? 740 00:42:54,673 --> 00:42:55,641 What was their color? 741 00:42:55,741 --> 00:42:58,476 >>GOODE: They were dark, like black, 742 00:42:58,576 --> 00:43:03,481 and they looked real rough, leathery, and almost like they 743 00:43:03,581 --> 00:43:06,184 had almost armor on them. 744 00:43:06,284 --> 00:43:07,653 >>DAVID: I would think for anything 745 00:43:07,753 --> 00:43:10,889 to have evolved to live on such an inhospitable planet, 746 00:43:10,989 --> 00:43:13,291 that it would all probably have this type 747 00:43:13,391 --> 00:43:16,461 of armoring and real ruggedness to it. 748 00:43:16,561 --> 00:43:18,897 >>GOODE: It was just interesting to some of the scientists 749 00:43:18,997 --> 00:43:21,566 that something so small with wings 750 00:43:21,667 --> 00:43:28,406 could fly in such an atmosphere. 751 00:43:28,506 --> 00:43:29,975 They didn't think that the atmosphere 752 00:43:30,075 --> 00:43:31,576 was dense enough for them to-- 753 00:43:31,677 --> 00:43:33,712 >>DAVID: To provide lift right for the wings, yeah. 754 00:43:33,812 --> 00:43:34,512 >>GOODE: Right. 755 00:43:34,612 --> 00:43:35,613 >>DAVID: How small is small? 756 00:43:35,714 --> 00:43:36,447 What was the size? 757 00:43:36,547 --> 00:43:37,816 >>GOODE: I mean, they were small. 758 00:43:37,916 --> 00:43:42,888 I mean, like small, like the size of some of the birds 759 00:43:42,988 --> 00:43:44,455 that you see flying around here. 760 00:43:44,555 --> 00:43:45,857 >>DAVID: Right. 761 00:43:45,957 --> 00:43:48,226 How similar did it look to a bat on Earth? 762 00:43:48,326 --> 00:43:50,628 >>GOODE: The texture looked like a bat, 763 00:43:50,729 --> 00:43:56,101 like the wings looked like skin. 764 00:43:56,201 --> 00:44:03,008 But the head and the beak looked more birdlike. 765 00:44:03,108 --> 00:44:04,409 >>DAVID: Oh, it had a beak. 766 00:44:04,509 --> 00:44:06,011 >>GOODE: Yeah. 767 00:44:06,111 --> 00:44:07,478 >>DAVID: Well, we could probably go 768 00:44:07,578 --> 00:44:10,716 through the taxonomy of a whole bunch of different critters. 769 00:44:10,816 --> 00:44:12,784 >>GOODE: And I didn't see a whole lot. 770 00:44:12,884 --> 00:44:15,353 Personally, I only saw a couple of things. 771 00:44:15,453 --> 00:44:18,724 I saw plant life and those kinds of things myself. 772 00:44:18,824 --> 00:44:19,958 >>DAVID: You did mention that. 773 00:44:20,058 --> 00:44:22,160 We got the plants in. 774 00:44:22,260 --> 00:44:25,731 >>GOODE: And I saw that was catalogued early 775 00:44:25,831 --> 00:44:26,932 by the Germans. 776 00:44:27,032 --> 00:44:30,435 They catalogued a lot of different life 777 00:44:30,535 --> 00:44:33,104 that popped up in the smart glass pads. 778 00:44:33,204 --> 00:44:34,706 >>DAVID: Were there things that looked 779 00:44:34,806 --> 00:44:36,808 like little crabs or spiders? 780 00:44:36,908 --> 00:44:41,279 >>GOODE: There were large spiders. 781 00:44:41,379 --> 00:44:42,547 >>DAVID: How large? 782 00:44:42,647 --> 00:44:46,384 >>GOODE: Very large, like half the size of a person. 783 00:44:49,054 --> 00:44:51,356 >>DAVID: My insider Jacob described cooking and eating 784 00:44:51,456 --> 00:44:52,290 those. 785 00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:55,093 And he said, it tastes like crab. 786 00:44:55,193 --> 00:44:58,496 I don't know why you'd want to. 787 00:44:58,596 --> 00:45:03,201 Were there things like worms that dig through the soil 788 00:45:03,301 --> 00:45:05,403 or like millipede, centipede type life? 789 00:45:05,503 --> 00:45:10,876 >>GOODE: Well, I saw reported a large, almost 790 00:45:10,976 --> 00:45:14,813 like silkworm-looking worms that were burrowing 791 00:45:14,913 --> 00:45:19,650 and would also come out and lay in the sun at times 792 00:45:19,751 --> 00:45:22,053 and then go back and burrow. 793 00:45:22,153 --> 00:45:23,621 >>DAVID: Yeah, the main life that I 794 00:45:23,721 --> 00:45:25,356 heard about from two other insiders who 795 00:45:25,456 --> 00:45:27,759 claim to have been on Mars was these worms 796 00:45:27,859 --> 00:45:31,396 that were very large, that would actually eat metal. 797 00:45:31,496 --> 00:45:33,564 And they would attach themselves to the side of some 798 00:45:33,664 --> 00:45:35,266 of these bases, and they'd have to go out 799 00:45:35,366 --> 00:45:37,402 with these harpoon-type guns and shoot them. 800 00:45:37,502 --> 00:45:38,837 But they weren't very fast-moving, 801 00:45:38,937 --> 00:45:41,172 so it really didn't pose any threat to you. 802 00:45:41,272 --> 00:45:43,241 It was a very boring job, apparently. 803 00:45:43,341 --> 00:45:44,876 >>GOODE: Yeah these looked almost 804 00:45:44,976 --> 00:45:54,986 like larva-type, big, bloated worm things 805 00:45:55,086 --> 00:45:56,254 that would burrow underground. 806 00:45:56,354 --> 00:45:58,656 >>DAVID: Were there any indigenous life 807 00:45:58,756 --> 00:46:01,426 forms that had evolved on Mars and had actually 808 00:46:01,526 --> 00:46:03,261 always been there? 809 00:46:03,361 --> 00:46:07,532 >>GOODE: There is one group that was very elusive that I never 810 00:46:07,632 --> 00:46:14,705 saw but read about that were human-like that stayed in caves 811 00:46:14,806 --> 00:46:23,148 and always wore robes and were very elusive 812 00:46:23,248 --> 00:46:25,183 and stayed away from everybody. 813 00:46:25,283 --> 00:46:27,618 >>DAVID: Yeah, I heard about an indigenous population 814 00:46:27,718 --> 00:46:30,288 from some others as well. 815 00:46:30,388 --> 00:46:33,124 Do you know about their height or their appearance? 816 00:46:33,224 --> 00:46:37,195 >>GOODE: This sounds too much like out of a movie, 817 00:46:37,295 --> 00:46:44,602 but supposedly looked very much like us but are very reddish. 818 00:46:44,702 --> 00:46:50,775 And they claim to be indigenous from Mars. 819 00:46:50,876 --> 00:46:52,878 Whether that's true or not, I don't know. 820 00:46:52,978 --> 00:46:54,679 >>DAVID: There's no way to know, yeah. 821 00:46:54,779 --> 00:46:57,615 >>GOODE: But there was very little 822 00:46:57,715 --> 00:47:01,853 in the glass pad about them. 823 00:47:01,953 --> 00:47:03,754 They were very elusive. 824 00:47:03,855 --> 00:47:09,027 And whenever the space program would come in and build 825 00:47:09,127 --> 00:47:14,632 a new colony that was too close to one of their civilizations, 826 00:47:14,732 --> 00:47:18,169 they would move their entire groups. 827 00:47:18,269 --> 00:47:19,270 >>DAVID: Really? 828 00:47:19,370 --> 00:47:20,638 >>GOODE: Yeah, they stayed completely away. 829 00:47:20,738 --> 00:47:22,440 >>DAVID: They didn't take offensive action? 830 00:47:22,540 --> 00:47:24,142 >>GOODE: No. 831 00:47:24,242 --> 00:47:29,147 From what I could tell, they were very non-Martian, 832 00:47:29,247 --> 00:47:31,049 very peaceful. 833 00:47:31,149 --> 00:47:36,154 They wanted to stay completely away from all other life forms. 834 00:47:36,254 --> 00:47:37,388 >>DAVID: All right. 835 00:47:37,488 --> 00:47:40,858 So that is quite a fascinating body of information. 836 00:47:40,959 --> 00:47:42,894 We're going to be coming back next time with much 837 00:47:42,994 --> 00:47:46,797 more on Mars here on "Cosmic Disclosure" because you 838 00:47:46,898 --> 00:47:48,233 need to know. 839 00:47:48,333 --> 00:47:52,137 I'm your host, David Wilcock, and I thank you for watching. 840 00:47:52,237 --> 00:47:53,671 [theme music] 68046

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